The IDF Screens a 43 Minute Assembly of Hamas Terrorists' Body Cam Footage, Proudly Showing Their Atrocities and Exulting in Evil

I don't really like what Israel's doing, concealing this evidence and showing it only to invitees.

This should just be made public, period. The terror-deniers are not going to be convinced because some media people -- who are trusted by about zero of us -- report what they the Israel Defense Forces showed them.

But if you are going to do this, invite terror apologists like Mehdi Hassan and Karen Attiah. Put them in the difficult position of being forced to straight-up lie to continue propagandizing for their Jihadist allies. Make MSNBC and the Washington Post choose between firing its woke identity-politics hires or endorsing their lies about what the video shows.

The video shows savageries little-seen since the 11th century. Outside of the Holocaust.

The Israeli government on Monday screened for 200 members of the foreign press some 43 minutes of harrowing scenes of murder, torture and decapitation from Hamas's October 7 onslaught on southern Israel, in which over 1,400 people were killed, including raw videos from the terrorists' bodycams.
The government said it had decided to show journalists part of its collected documentation in order to dispel what a spokesperson characterized as "a Holocaust-denial-like phenomenon happening in real-time," as doubts have been raised around the world about some of the most horrific of Hamas's atrocities.
The footage was collected from call recordings, security cameras, Hamas terrorists' body cameras, victim dashboard cameras, Hamas and victims' social media accounts, and cellphone videos taken by terrorists, victims and first responders. Over 1,000 civilians were slaughtered by the terrorists, and at least 224 people were abducted.
In one pair of videos that were screened, Hamas terrorists are seen dressed in IDF uniforms, flagging down passing cars and then shooting their occupants.

Dead bodies are dragged out of vehicles and left in the middle of the road after terrorists rifle through their belongings and in some cases steal the blood-soaked, bullet-ridden cars.
In another video, first responders are seen pouring bottled water over still-smoldering bodies, hoping to snuff out the remaining embers.
In another, a man writhes on the ground, bleeding from his stomach, as a terrorist tries repeatedly to decapitate him with farming equipment. The man appears to be southeast Asian, possibly one of Israel's foreign agricultural workers.
In another clip, from after the assault, an Israeli woman is seen trying to work out if a partially burned woman's corpse, with a mutilated head, is that of a family member. The dead woman's dress is pulled up to her waist and her underpants have been removed.
Major Gen. Mickey Edelstein, who briefed reporters after the viewing, said that "we have evidence" of rape but "we cannot share it," declining to elaborate further.
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In the second segment, captured through a call recording application on a victim's phone, a different son reaches out to a different father. "Dad, I killed 10 with my bare hands," the terrorist excitedly tells his father in Gaza. "Their blood is on my hands, let me speak to Mom."
"Please be proud of me, Dad," he adds.
Identified by his father as Mahmoud, the terrorist says he is calling his family from the phone of a Jewish woman he's just murdered, and implores them to check his WhatsApp messages for further documentation.
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Among the still images included in the raw footage reel were those of a decapitated soldier, several charred human remains including those of young children, a pile of dead bodies in a bomb shelter, and several Islamic State flags that the military said were found in Israel.
Speaking to the press corps, Israel Defense Forces Spokesman Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari said that Israel has been identifying Hamas with Islamic State (or ISIS) since October 7 primarily because of the Gaza-based terror group's methods.
"When we say Hamas is ISIS, it's not a branding effort," said Hagari.
"We say ISIS in the sense of -- [Hamas's] media elements, cruelty, and barbarism are ISIS elements," he said. He also noted "the guidance of manuscripts" found on killed and captured Hamas terrorists, the primary force of which was from the group's Nukhba commando unit.
"It's this idea that they would take all measures, [even] against Islam, to not allow the existence of Israelis, wherever they are, [including] Bedouins, Arab Israelis, foreigners," Hagari said.

Not shown in the film is the account of girls being found dead and so thoroughly raped that their bones were broken during the violation.

So is this working?

No, the terror deniers are just claiming that just because a baby was decapitated, it doesn't mean it was "beheaded." If you shot an RPG into a family home and the shrapnel cut a baby's head from its body, that's not an deliberate beheading, you see.

No intent, as James Comey says when he's rewriting the law to excuse Hillary Clinton.

Another AWFL, lunatic Wine O'Clock Wendy. Of course.

The video has had no effect on AP. AP forbids its "journalists" from referring to Hamas terrorists as terrorists. They must be called only "militants."

A "militant" is defined as "someone engaged in combat." The synonym offered by M-W.com is "fighter."

So that's what these guys were -- just soldiers, "fighting" children and little girls who objected to being mass-raped.

The news outlet states in its "Israel-Hamas Topical Guide" that because "terrorism and terrorist have become politicized, and often are applied inconsistently ... the AP is not using the terms for specific actions or groups, other than in direct quotations." The guidance will affect how dozens of regional newspapers and national outlets like Politico report on the ongoing war in Gaza.
Hamas, an Islamist militant group dedicated to the annihilation of Israel and Jews around the world, is classified as a terrorist organization by dozens of countries, including the United States and the European Union. Hamas has undertaken hundreds of terrorist attacks against civilians since 1993, according to the Jewish Virtual Library.
Instead of referring to Hamas--which earlier this month killed hundreds of innocent civilians, including children in an unprompted attack on Israel--as a terrorist group, the outlet says journalists should call its members "militants."
"Terms such as Hamas fighters, attackers or combatants are also acceptable depending on the context," the Associated Press style guide states.

If someone phones a death threat in to the AP's offices, would that person be a terrorist or a "militant" according to the AP, do you think?

The BBC has been successfully lobbied to stop calling Hamas terrorists "militants" -- but it also won't call them terrorists, which it says suggests moral judgment.

We wouldn't want to express moral judgment about raping and killing children.

The BBC has dropped using the term "militant" as a default term in describing Hamas.
According to reports, the decision was revealed during a meeting with Jewish leaders in England and amid criticism from UK politicians. The Financial Times reported the decision was announced during a meeting between the Board of Jewish Deputies and BBC director-general Tim Davie.
The BBC has resisted calling Hamas fighters terrorists. Under this new approach, "militant" will no longer be the default term used by the broadcaster, though the new approach stops short of using the word "terrorist," reports say.
In an article last week, BBC World Affairs editor John Simpson laid out the broadcaster's position.
"Terrorism is a loaded word, which people use about an outfit they disapprove of morally," Simpson wrote.

Terrorism means the use of political violence against civilians to terrorize that populace in order to gain a political advantage.

Which part of that does not apply to Hamas?

I'd really like Grabien to put together video contrasting the media branding J6 protesters as "insurrectionists" or "terrorists" with those same media figures referring to Hamas terrorists as "militants."

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:03 PM

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1 SPONGE

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 12:04 PM (xcxpd)

2 And this would be good evidence to make public during a war crimes trial, after the war.

But the war ain't over yet.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 12:04 PM (xcxpd)

3 I couldn't watch it even if I wanted to.
It can't be unseen...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 24, 2023 12:04 PM (MeG8a)

4 Straight up RACISM!

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 24, 2023 12:06 PM (cl+Gq)

5 Right, the video evidence should be put on the Internet for all to see. Not that it will likely change certain groups opinions...

Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
Hamas was justified in attacking Israel as part of their struggle for a Palestinian state?

All Americans:

Disagree: 75%
Agree: 25%

Muslim Americans:

Disagree: 42%
Agree: 58%

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 24, 2023 12:06 PM (TGPs7)

6 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 12:06 PM (vf0Uk)

7 Hamas is what BLM aspires to, as well.

Gun up, if you haven't already

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 12:06 PM (xcxpd)

8 At one of the Nazi death camps the Americans captured we made all the local Germans go through it. Plus we filmed the hell out of the horrors.

And yet there are people who still don't believe it ever happened.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2023 12:08 PM (wRddn)

9 Diversity is the world's strength.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 12:08 PM (vf0Uk)

10 "Terrorism is a loaded word, which people use about an outfit they disapprove of morally," Simpson wrote.

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You don't say...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:08 PM (GBKbO)

11 Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
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6m
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@DunkirkCSD
is holding a drag show for students. Not just will minor students be invited to watch men dressed up as women dance provocatively, students will actually be able to dress up as drag queens and perform as well!

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 24, 2023 12:08 PM (TGPs7)

12
The BBC has dropped using the term "militant" as a default term in describing Hamas.

So what's the acceptable term? Community activists? Aspiring hip-hop artists?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2023 12:08 PM (MoZTd)

13 >>>So what's the acceptable term? Community activists? Aspiring hip-hop artists?

I didn't see the alternative. Just not terrorist!

Posted by: ace at October 24, 2023 12:09 PM (KRtlO)

14 I like it! Make it unavoidable, with widest possible media coverage.

s
naahh, makes too much sense.
even worse than mean tweets
/s

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at October 24, 2023 12:09 PM (+vFC3)

15 THIS, is orthodox islham.

It's in their book. It's in the teachings. It's what they're trained to do from birth.

It WILL come down to us or them at some point. We'll see who's still considered 'us' when it happens.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 12:09 PM (vf0Uk)

16
Gerry Callahan
@GerryCallahan
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1h
Finally! The NBA has an "out non-binary transgender" referee. About damn time!

Now maybe the NBA can enlighten us: What the hell is "out non-binary transgender"?

And who is gonna be the first player ejected, fined and suspended for misgendering "them"?

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 24, 2023 12:09 PM (TGPs7)

17 Not only would I not watch the video. I can't even read about it.

My "don't read the content" training is coming in handy these days.

Posted by: Just Lily at October 24, 2023 12:10 PM (vOGME)

18 If the videos were put on the internet a certain segment of the population would become exhilarated by them. Don't do it.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 24, 2023 12:10 PM (MeG8a)

19 This should just be made public, period. The terror-deniers are not going to be convinced because some media people -- who are trusted by about zero of us -- report what they the Israel Defense Forces showed them.
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They'll deny it anyway. Propaganda, out of context, one-sided, etc.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 12:10 PM (d04cU)

20 We've all been desensitized to a degree thanks to Hollywood spectacle, so I wonder how many folks will chalk it up to "special effects" as part of a propaganda campaign by Israel to generate anti-Palestinian sentiment.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 24, 2023 12:10 PM (YIVH2)

21 It won't change true believers, antisemitic minds. I would like to see the survey responses by race also. How many blacks approve oh Hamas, justify them.

Posted by: runner at October 24, 2023 12:10 PM (hht4k)

22 You're all a bunch of Islamophobics !

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 12:10 PM (bs+z0)

23 Finally! The NBA has an "out non-binary transgender" referee. About damn time!

Now maybe the NBA can enlighten us: What the hell is "out non-binary transgender"?

What are they transitioning to and from if they're "non-binary"?

Posted by: Ian S. at October 24, 2023 12:10 PM (2ocoG)

24 7 Hamas is what BLM aspires to, as well.

Gun up, if you haven't already
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BLM stands for Black Lesbian Mayors. They are in it for the Zuckerbucks. They invest their Zuckerbucks in tony white neighborhoods. They aren't going to go full Zulu. They like nice things. Think Oprah with a M-16 - its ludicrous.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 12:11 PM (naiw2)

25 8 Ike went through one of the camps with his generals. Patton nearly threw up.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 24, 2023 12:11 PM (JrojV)

26 Hamas was justified in attacking Israel as part of their struggle for a Palestinian state?

Muslim Americans:

Disagree: 42%
Agree: 58%
Posted by: Mister Ghost

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Yeah, for all the media push to pretend otherwise, "extremism" is the norm.

I would bet money the 58-42 adheres almost exactly to "practicing" (praying) vs non-practicing percentages asked.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 24, 2023 12:11 PM (WqnnI)

27 The language usage of the media is horrific. Why do these monsters have such support? It is mind-boggling.

Trump has many flaws but he would NEVER let the media just call them militants or fighters.

Posted by: Iris at October 24, 2023 12:11 PM (NaH5I)

28 C'mon, Ace, it's Jews

Posted by: Leftie Hamas at October 24, 2023 12:11 PM (6MiKy)

29 >>>18 If the videos were put on the internet a certain segment of the population would become exhilarated by them. Don't do it.

no no no, I know that's the thinking, but these savage animals do not need any encouragement to murder, rape, and terrorize. They're taught to do this from infancy. Their version of Sesame Street tells them to kill the infidel.

Posted by: ace at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (KRtlO)

30 Reavers. They are Reavers.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (4I/2K)

31 Where is the Gazan Resistance, helping the Israelis free the peaceful majority from their oppressive Hamas captivity?

Oh, there isn't one, is there?

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (/QIWP)

32 Is there any defense/apologia/minimization for the events that doesn't just boil down to, "Those armed men raped those women and killed those babies in self defense"?

Because not even Frank Luntz could swallow that one.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (z+89e)

33 Everyone knows that the only terrorists are conservative Christians that are in the PTA and MAGA republicans.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (17s+e)

34 So it's okay if a baby's head is blown off ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (bs+z0)

35 Hmmm, yeah.

These are evil people.

Also, by definition a body without a head has been decapitated.

I want to found TLMF. The Language Matters, Fucktards.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (zZu0s)

36 My heart bleeds for the families in Israel that have suffered from these animals. I need to just leave there, else my rage will have me posting something that would get ace in trouble and me a permanent ban.

Posted by: BifBewalski at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (3CCua)

37 >>> Reavers. They are Reavers.

yup.

Posted by: ace at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (KRtlO)

38 Their version of Sesame Street tells them to kill the infidel.

You should post the videos of Farfour the Jew-Hating Mouse and Nahul the Jew-Hating Bee.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (2ocoG)

39

1 SPONGE
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 12:04 PM (xcxpd)

Winning.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (vf0Uk)

40 but yeah, ask every one of the apologists and deniers, on camera

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at October 24, 2023 12:13 PM (+vFC3)

41
But the war ain't over yet.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Are you sure about that?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 24, 2023 12:13 PM (63Dwl)

42 31 Where is the Gazan Resistance, helping the Israelis free the peaceful majority from their oppressive Hamas captivity?

Oh, there isn't one, is there?
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (/QIWP)

========

The Gazan Resistance resists Israel while disagreeing with Hamas' tactics.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:13 PM (GBKbO)

43 If someone phones a death threat in to the AP's offices, would that person be a terrorist or a "militant" according to the AP, do you think?

———————

They would be called a white supremicist or a Trump voter.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 24, 2023 12:13 PM (u73oe)

44 32 Is there any defense/apologia/minimization for the events that doesn't just boil down to, "Those armed men raped those women and killed those babies in self defense"?

Because not even Frank Luntz could swallow that one.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (z+89e)

I am sure it goes something like: The Israelis do worse every day... etc, etc.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 12:13 PM (zZu0s)

45 Trump has many flaws but he would NEVER let the media just call them militants or fighters.

Posted by: Iris at October 24, 2023 12:11 PM (NaH5I)
________

But his mean tweets about media perfidy would be the REAL violence!!!!

Posted by: Just Lily at October 24, 2023 12:13 PM (vOGME)

46 So it's okay if a baby's head is blown off ?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (bs+z0)

Killing a baby with a bomb > Cutting a baby's head off manually

- - - - Democrat Media Establishment

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 12:13 PM (vf0Uk)

47
Betcha half of Detroit, Hamtramck and Dearborn is fapping away furiously at this video.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2023 12:13 PM (MoZTd)

48 Whatever happened to people idolizing Ghandi?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 24, 2023 12:14 PM (HfNu5)

49 34 So it's okay if a baby's head is blown off ?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (bs+z0)

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The implication is that accidentally blowing a baby's head off with an RPG is less barbaric than cutting off a baby's head.

Maybe there's some gradation of a point, but it's the kind of equivalence one uses when trying to excuse behavior more than anything else.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:14 PM (GBKbO)

50 Islam must be ended.

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 12:14 PM (sm6Pk)

51 >>If the videos were put on the internet a certain segment of the population would become exhilarated by them. Don't do it.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 24, 2023 12:10 PM (MeG8a)
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Fuck that. Cater to that segment? Self-censor again to appease a mentally-deranged micro-segment of the population. I think we've had enough of that.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at October 24, 2023 12:14 PM (bNf8H)

52
I want to found TLMF. The Language Matters, Fucktards.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (zZu0s)

I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Sigh, if only we had some neutral space where this could be pointed out AND would reach the LIVs.

Posted by: Iris at October 24, 2023 12:14 PM (NaH5I)

53 *flips to random page of The Holocaust Chronicle: A History in Words and Pictures*

pg 544. September 1944. Following American bomber hits on factories at Auschwitz, the SS gives wounded inmates excellent medical attention and chocolate - propaganda ploy for the benefit of German media. Once recovered, the inmates are exterminated.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2023 12:14 PM (wRddn)

54 " So it's okay if a baby's head is blown off ?
Posted by: It's me donna "
******
It's never okay to kill a baby.

Posted by: Cosda at October 24, 2023 12:14 PM (15f3e)

55 Islam must be ended.
Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 12:14 PM (sm6Pk)

A free society, as God intended, cannot coexist with it. Period.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM (vf0Uk)

56 A shocking indication of how much this war is splitting the Left....DailyKos has no articles up about it, and haven't for some time. They have "trending stories" from discussions in their "community" section, but no articles from their staff. It's all House Republicans are in disarray and Trump’s REALLY going to jail now!

Whatever they say will piss off a sizable chunk of the hodge-podge of grievance-grifters the Left has cobbled together, so they just say nothing at all.

Posted by: Intercepted Daily Kos Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM (BN6WR)

57 If the videos were put on the internet a certain segment of the population would become exhilarated by them. Don't do it.

--

Wisdom comes when you realize that their videos aren't to damage the morale of non-Muslims, but to encourage action and improve morale of Muslims.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM (WqnnI)

58 48 Whatever happened to people idolizing Ghandi?
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Nobody wants to wear diapers.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM (naiw2)

59 @JakeSherman
MATT GAETZ is quietly helping TOM EMMER, per multiple GOP sources.

Matt Gaetz helping Tom Emmer become Speaker would be the perfect ending to this fiasco.

Posted by: Mark1971 at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM (xPl2J)

60 The BBC has dropped using the term "militant" as a default term in describing Hamas.

So what's the acceptable term? Community activists? Aspiring hip-hop artists?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2023 12:08 PM

Targets.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM (aQy7p)

61 It's never okay to kill a baby.
Posted by: Cosda at October 24, 2023 12:14 PM (15f3e)

*spock eyebrow*

Posted by: Planned Parenthood Inc. at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM (aD39U)

62 "But if you are going to do this, invite terror apologists like Mehdi Hassan and Karen Attiah. Put them in the difficult position of being forced to straight-up lie to continue propagandizing for their Jihadist allies."

Yes. Force them to exhibit that they think this is fine.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM (OX9vb)

63 So it's okay if a baby's head is blown off ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (bs+z0)

Just don't call 'em "savages".

Posted by: BignJames at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM (AwYPR)

64 If the videos were put on the internet a certain segment of the population would become exhilarated by them. Don't do it.

no no no, I know that's the thinking, but these savage animals do not need any encouragement to murder, rape, and terrorize. They're taught to do this from infancy. Their version of Sesame Street tells them to kill the infidel.
Posted by: ace at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (KRtlO)
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We are at a key moment in time, I think, where the horrors we are witnessing now are only a taste of the horrors to follow, as the world devolves into its more primitive, natural state. Civilization is collapsing and I don't believe anyone can stop it, though some may survive it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM (YIVH2)

65 ******
It's never okay to kill a baby.
Posted by: Cosda at October 24, 2023 12:14 PM (15f3e)

YOU'RE WRONG!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: NOW at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM (vf0Uk)

66
At one of the Nazi death camps the Americans captured we made all the local Germans go through it. Plus we filmed the hell out of the horrors.

And yet there are people who still don't believe it ever happened.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2023 12:08 PM

We even forced the local Germans to help clean them up. Dead bodies were everywhere. In one scene I saw a bulldozer being used to move the remains of hundreds. Not a scene I'll soon forget. I thank G-d my family got out of Germany in the late 1890's.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM (enJYY)

67
Whatever happened to people idolizing Ghandi?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 24, 2023 12:14 PM (HfNu5)

Gandhi said during the Holocaust that the best thing Jews could do is let themselves be killed.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM (MoZTd)

68 But if you are going to do this, invite terror apologists like Mehdi Hassan and Karen Attiah. Put them in the difficult position of being forced to straight-up lie to continue propagandizing for their Jihadist allies. Make MSNBC and the Washington Post choose between firing its woke identity-politics hires or endorsing their lies about what the video shows.
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I don't think they'd find it difficult.

Journalist: "The footage revealed by the IDF is harrowing and shows disheartening and grotesque excesses perpetrated by Hamas fighters during their recent incursion into Israel. These atrocities are tragic and should not be understated, but it is important to understand the full context of the event and the circumstances leading up to it. Israel's exhibition of footage was notably one-sided, showing none of the IDF response to the incident. As people are rightly skeptical of Hamas' claims about body counts and behavior, so should they be equally skeptical of a one-sided Israeli account."

Paper: "We stand by open, balanced and fair journalism in times of conflict."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM (d04cU)

69 Nobody wants to wear diapers.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM

Biden

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 24, 2023 12:16 PM (kC9Sh)

70 The implication is that accidentally blowing a baby's head off with an RPG is less barbaric than cutting off a baby's head.

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By the same population that still uses stoning as a punishment for sin.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 24, 2023 12:16 PM (WqnnI)

71 When I say "a certain segment of the population" I mean sadists and killers, the kind of people who watch snuff porn, which may include the Palis but is not exclusive to them.
Oh, what the hell, you can already get whatever you want on the internet if you look hard enough...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 24, 2023 12:16 PM (MeG8a)

72 The argument over the use of the word 'beheading' is absolutely insane.

The parsing of language to reduce the horror to the passive voice is like nothing I've witnessed.

'A victim of a fighter whose head was not joined to the body...'

Posted by: MJ at October 24, 2023 12:16 PM (zwDuR)

73
Just don't call 'em "savages".
Posted by: BignJames at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM (AwYPR)

Or mean tweet.

Or say pussy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 12:16 PM (vf0Uk)

74 I think besides the fact that the images are so horrific and graphic, and that they don't want others to spread them around or use then to desecrate the image of the dead (which no terrorist or leftist is above doing) it's that the minds of the people already denying these events probably won't be swayed by these images. They'll claim they're made up, or that they are actually crimes committed by Israel.

I mean these people are so f*ckin delusional they think if they show up in gaza in their tranny uniform and start making out with their gay lover, that the people will cheer and throw a dance party for them. The terrorist apologist aren't living in reality, and there's no changing them.

Posted by: Rbastid at October 24, 2023 12:16 PM (LpFTj)

75 59 @JakeSherman
MATT GAETZ is quietly helping TOM EMMER, per multiple GOP sources.

Matt Gaetz helping Tom Emmer become Speaker would be the perfect ending to this fiasco.
Posted by: Mark1971 at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM (xPl2J)

Emmer sucks from what I've read... Pretty sure he'll get Dem votes

Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 12:17 PM (bs+z0)

76 I could not engage either as a friend or a relative to someone who didn't call these savages terrorists.

The scumbag begging his dad to be proud of him shows the generations-old hate that's been bred into them.

Israel has to wipe these Hamas off the earth. If not, they lose my sympathy.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 24, 2023 12:17 PM (JeYYB)

77 "But if you are going to do this, invite terror apologists like Mehdi Hassan and Karen Attiah. Put them in the difficult position of being forced to straight-up lie to continue propagandizing for their Jihadist allies."
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They'll do it without even batting an eye. They willfully embrace evil and call it good, for Muslims are permitted to engage in *any* activity in the service of advancing Islam, no matter how depraved or monstrous that activity may be to the rest of us.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 24, 2023 12:17 PM (YIVH2)

78 9 out of 10 muzzies give the rest a bad name.

In Gaza it is more like 99 out of 100. I think losing 1% in total eradication is more than acceptable.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 24, 2023 12:17 PM (17s+e)

79 54 " So it's okay if a baby's head is blown off ?
Posted by: It's me donna "
******
It's never okay to kill a baby.
Posted by: Cosda at October 24, 2023 12:14 PM (15f3e)

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Unless your daughter might be punished with one.

>Barack Hussein Obama

Which is why Democrats are fine with Hamas. They've already decided babies are fine to sacrifice for personal gain.

Posted by: Just Lily at October 24, 2023 12:18 PM (vOGME)

80 Israelis making their case before making their move.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2023 12:18 PM (VvPil)

81 >>>At one of the Nazi death camps the Americans captured we made all the local Germans go through it. Plus we filmed the hell out of the horrors.
And yet there are people who still don't believe it ever happened.

and didn't we hide that film from the public for some f*cktarded reason?

Posted by: ace at October 24, 2023 12:18 PM (KRtlO)

82 Right after the slaughter there were many photos of the atrocities released by the murderers... Horrifying

Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 12:18 PM (bs+z0)

83
Emmer sucks from what I've read... Pretty sure he'll get Dem votes
Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 12:17 PM (bs+z0)

He's funded by Soros.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 12:18 PM (vf0Uk)

84 *spock eyebrow*
Posted by: Planned Parenthood"
**************
Yes, you too.

Posted by: Cosda at October 24, 2023 12:18 PM (15f3e)

85 >>>hey'll do it without even batting an eye. They willfully embrace evil and call it good, for Muslims are permitted to engage in *any* activity in the service of advancing Islam

I know. My target is their degenerate employers.

Posted by: ace at October 24, 2023 12:18 PM (KRtlO)

86 I could care less if they killed every Gazan on the Planet after this.

You know who else was Pro-Genocide?
...
Me.

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 12:19 PM (8+ld9)

87 I am for letting God sort them out. I do realize innocents will be sorted. All I'm saying.

Posted by: DOYLE at October 24, 2023 12:19 PM (Z8Yh2)

88 Killing a baby with a bomb > Cutting a baby's head off manually*

*unless it's during a late term abortion

- - - - Democrat Media Establishment
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 12:13 PM

FIFY

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 24, 2023 12:19 PM (aQy7p)

89 So that's what these guys were -- just soldiers, "fighting" children and little girls who objected to being mass-raped.
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They are. Soldiers for a deeply evil state, perpetrating great evil on its behalf. I actually agree that Hamas is not a terror group - it has moved beyond that. It is a semi-regularized army now with robust command and control - and it observes absolutely no rules of combat. It should be treated as neither a regular army (it isn't) nor a terrorist group (it isn't) but as the ruling power of a barbarian rogue state that needs to be completely eliminated.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 12:19 PM (d04cU)

90 9 out of 10 muzzies give the rest a bad name.

10 out of 10 - fixed for accuracy.

Posted by: Archer at October 24, 2023 12:19 PM (gmo/4)

91 MATT GAETZ is quietly helping TOM EMMER, per multiple GOP sources.

I'm for Johnson.

Posted by: Roland Johnson at October 24, 2023 12:19 PM (cl+Gq)

92 26 Hamas was justified in attacking Israel as part of their struggle for a Palestinian state?

Muslim Americans:

Disagree: 42%
Agree: 58%
Posted by: Mister Ghost

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Yeah, for all the media push to pretend otherwise, "extremism" is the norm.

I would bet money the 58-42 adheres almost exactly to "practicing" (praying) vs non-practicing percentages asked.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 24, 2023 12:11 PM (WqnnI)

Which is to say that 58% also believe Israel is at war for its very survival and is also justified in any response that preserves itself.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 24, 2023 12:19 PM (KbCG3)

93 If someone phones a death threat in to the AP's offices, would that person be a terrorist or a "militant" according to the AP, do you think?
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That depends entirely on who makes the call.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 12:19 PM (d04cU)

94 Kinda reminds me of how the Press hides the 9/11 footage.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 12:19 PM (xcxpd)

95 Propaganda works.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 24, 2023 12:19 PM (oCJJq)

96 People NEED to be horrified, evidently.

Show everyone everything. Black out the faces of those still living rape victims.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 24, 2023 12:20 PM (JeYYB)

97 81 >>>At one of the Nazi death camps the Americans captured we made all the local Germans go through it. Plus we filmed the hell out of the horrors.
And yet there are people who still don't believe it ever happened.

and didn't we hide that film from the public for some f*cktarded reason?

Posted by: ace at October 24, 2023 12:18 PM (KRtlO)

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There were several films made and released at the time from that footage.

Billy Wilder "directed" one (he just managed the editing). It's on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLplA59Xnfo

It was mostly released in Germany to make sure that the people of the nation knew what they had allowed to happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:20 PM (GBKbO)

98
FIFY
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 24, 2023 12:19 PM (aQy7p)

I was formulating a comment in my head about how they snap the spinal cord at the neck during the abortion process, but couldn't bring myself to post it.......

So thanks for that.

*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 12:20 PM (vf0Uk)

99 58% of American Muslims think the attack was justified but we're supposed to believe Gaza isn't fully on board.

Sure Jan. That thing I did in your mouth...

Posted by: MJ at October 24, 2023 12:20 PM (zwDuR)

100 I know. My target is their degenerate employers.
Posted by: ace at October 24, 2023 12:18 PM (KRtlO)
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Who are deluded into believing themselves "allied" with their Muslim employees who will gladly line up their employers to be beheaded when the time comes...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 24, 2023 12:20 PM (YIVH2)

101 "Terrorism is a loaded word, which people use about an outfit they disapprove of morally," Simpson wrote.
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It also refers to tactics and structure. Hamas fits the bill neatly on the tactics side, though less than ever on the structure side.

Just say what you are, Simpson.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 12:20 PM (d04cU)

102 The Jewish people said, "never again,"

Bibi, seeing again says, "Hold on, I need more time to respond."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 24, 2023 12:20 PM (TzW+Y)

103 >>81 >>

and didn't we hide that film from the public for some f*cktarded reason?

Posted by: ace

If Prescott Bush and Henry Ford were still around we could ask them.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 24, 2023 12:20 PM (l10hq)

104 96 People NEED to be horrified, evidently.

Show everyone everything. Black out the faces of those still living rape victims.
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 24, 2023 12:20 PM (JeYYB)

I agree... When Daniel Pearl was beheaded I made myself watch it...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 12:20 PM (bs+z0)

105 But the war ain't over yet.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Are you sure about that?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 24, 2023 12:13 PM (63Dwl)

Well Hamas sure hasn't been defeated yet.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 12:21 PM (xcxpd)

106 Until decent and civilized people start bring down some Old Testament punishments this will continue and spread. The sooner it is done, the fewer the causalities.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 24, 2023 12:21 PM (17s+e)

107 >>>There were several films made and released at the time from that footage.

thanks, but I have a memory that a lot of this footage was locked away, some of the nastiest stuff.

Posted by: ace at October 24, 2023 12:21 PM (KRtlO)

108 Well, when you live in timeline where lunatics are parsing the meaning of decaptitaion, Whoopi Goldberg style, you know you are through the looking glass Alice.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2023 12:21 PM (rc3Z7)

109 I think we're making a mistake insisting that the atrocities in Israel were the result of "terrorists" rather than "fighters." I think calling them terrorists absolves the citizens of Gaza of responsibility, hence the call for a cease fire and the warning of imminent attacks by Israel. Hamas is the elected government of Gaza. Hamas is the ARMY of Gaza, invading Israel. This linguistic trap limits the Israeli response, which is exactly what Hamas wants, now dribbling out hostages to buy even more time. The innocent Nazis of Dresden wish they had the Gaza PR brigade.

Posted by: Fat Jonah of Krypton at October 24, 2023 12:22 PM (PwP1X)

110 Late this morn.

So that's what these guys were -- just soldiers, "fighting" children and little girls who objected to being mass-raped.

Either you're a terrorist (making you evil) or you're a "militant" meaning you carried out despicable acts during war, making you evil. So where's the left who called our soldiers coming back from Vietnam "Baby Killers"? Supporting REAL babykillers, and baby rapers, and baby torturers, and baby decapitators.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:22 PM (ynpvh)

111 Even though I'm pretty sour on the US right now, if we had something like this going on in our backyard, I don't doubt there would be mob justice and that nobody would be waiting on the military getting a green light from foreign governments.

I hope Israel is happy they disarmed their population.

Posted by: Blago at October 24, 2023 12:22 PM (RnV1b)

112 I guess instead of ''terrorists", we should call them rapists and murderers.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 24, 2023 12:22 PM (ufFY8)

113 I would have no problem with the eradication of all muzzies on the planet.

That is were I'm am. God has no problem with righteous fury.

There is such a thing as a righteous or just war.

Posted by: Archer at October 24, 2023 12:22 PM (gmo/4)

114 I don't care what they are called as long as they are dead.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 24, 2023 12:23 PM (TzW+Y)

115 74 I mean these people are so f*ckin delusional they think if they show up in gaza in their tranny uniform and start making out with their gay lover, that the people will cheer and throw a dance party for them. The terrorist apologist aren't living in reality, and there's no changing them.
Posted by: Rbastid at October 24, 2023 12:16 PM (LpFTj)

I don't think they do.

They just think they're supergeniuses who can manipulate Muslims into killing all the Christians for them.

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 12:23 PM (sm6Pk)

116 If you want unapologetic, shameless Left-wing Hamas apologist action, check out the Democracy Now! website. It's...unbelievable. https://www.democracynow.org/

The top article headlines:
Israeli Strikes Kill 700 Palestinians Across Gaza as Hospitals Face Critical Fuel Shortage.

Freed Hamas Hostage Yocheved Lifshitz, 85, Says She Was “Treated Well” After Enduring “Hell”

Is Israel’s Endgame to Clear Out Gaza? Egypt Says No to Palestinian Refugees, Fearing New Nakba

“Nowhere in Gaza Is Safe”: Palestinian Death Toll Tops 5,000 as Israel Rejects Calls for Ceasefire

Palestinian Human Rights Lawyer Raji Sourani Describes Surviving Israel Bombing His Home in Gaza

“Divide and Rule”: How Israel Helped Start Hamas to Weaken Palestinian Hopes for Statehood

Posted by: Intercepted Democracy Now! Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 24, 2023 12:23 PM (BN6WR)

117 The only way I can process this all and not lose my mind, is to concentrate on the fact that God is a just God and His judgement is Eternal.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2023 12:23 PM (h/xVB)

118 66
At one of the Nazi death camps the Americans captured we made all the local Germans go through it. Plus we filmed the hell out of the horrors.

And yet there are people who still don't believe it ever happened.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2023 12:08 PM
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Anna, total war means POW and Work Camps will starve. Same thing happened at Andersonville. Grant's total war means cutting all transportation of food and material. As a result prisoners don't eat. What was seen there was the results of total war - the weak and defenseless die.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 12:23 PM (e9bwN)

119 Oh my Lord. The picture of the parent and child bound and burned together - no words.

Posted by: LASue at October 24, 2023 12:23 PM (Is/pc)

120 It's obvious that the entity they serve is satan and yet some people will remain willfully ignorant of that fact.

Posted by: Emmie at October 24, 2023 12:23 PM (Sf2cq)

121 The savages will use these terrible videos as training manuals. I'm gonna say don't. Whoever needed to see it saw it. And even without the videos understood it.

Posted by: runner at October 24, 2023 12:23 PM (hht4k)

122 >>> So where's the left who called our soldiers coming back from Vietnam "Baby Killers"?

I can envision a political cartoon showing a Vietnam hippie protester saying "Baby Killers!" in an accusatory way, compared to present day Jihadis saying "Baby Killers!" proudly as they take selfies in front of a pile of burning bodies.

Posted by: ace at October 24, 2023 12:23 PM (KRtlO)

123 >>I would have no problem with the eradication of all muzzies on the planet.

Make them ALL shahid.

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 12:23 PM (8+ld9)

124 Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 24, 2023 12:24 PM (aD39U)

125 This linguistic trap limits the Israeli response, which is exactly what Hamas wants, now dribbling out hostages to buy even more time.

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The labels aren't what is trapping Israel. We can argue over what the proper designation is, but it doesn't really matter. Having the will to do what must be done is what matters. Does Israel have it? Do we?

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 24, 2023 12:24 PM (sX1BW)

126 I would have no problem with the eradication of all muzzies on the planet.

Let them meet their 72 virgins... Or goats

Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 12:24 PM (bs+z0)

127 107 >>>There were several films made and released at the time from that footage.

thanks, but I have a memory that a lot of this footage was locked away, some of the nastiest stuff.
Posted by: ace at October 24, 2023 12:21 PM (KRtlO)

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Wouldn't surprise me.

It was recognized for decades by 99% of America that the Holocaust was a bad thing. It's not nearly 80 years in the past, and there's been a conscious effort to import a newer, better population.

Plus, it's not like the footage that did get out of emaciated, living skeletons wasn't horrific enough to make the point. The problem we're facing isn't one of uneducation but of maleducation, something that gets hard to fight in places like universities when the universities themselves have been captured by people who suddenly feel that extermination is okay sometimes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:25 PM (GBKbO)

128 If you want unapologetic, shameless Left-wing Hamas apologist action, check out the Democracy Now! website. It's...unbelievable. https://www.democracynow.org/

Posted by: Intercepted Democracy Now! Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 24, 2023 12:23 PM (BN6WR)
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Sadly, these days those headlines are only TOO believable...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 24, 2023 12:25 PM (YIVH2)

129 "Wisdom comes when you realize that their videos aren't to damage the morale of non-Muslims, but to encourage action and improve morale of Muslims.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 24, 2023 12:15 PM (WqnnI) "

This is true!
But I think that the moment really needs something pretty visceral to move "public opinion" in a useful direction, and this might be it.
the creeps all have these videos already, the normals need to know just how dirty those minds are.

*"shocking the normals", wow, have I become an avant-garde 70s artist in my spare time & not even noticed?*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at October 24, 2023 12:25 PM (+vFC3)

130 23 Finally! The NBA has an "out non-binary transgender" referee. About damn time!

Now maybe the NBA can enlighten us: What the hell is "out non-binary transgender"?

What are they transitioning to and from if they're "non-binary"?

Posted by: Ian S. at October 24, 2023 12:10 PM (2ocoG)
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Well, how many excited queers does it take to complete a circle? There's your answer.

Posted by: Ciampino - Eeeew! at October 24, 2023 12:25 PM (qfLjt)

131 Back during ISIS's time (Obama admin) many Christians in Egypt were captured and beheaded and I watched some of the ISIS videos. A couple things I learned were a) I wish I hadn't seen them and b) heads come off rather easily.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 24, 2023 12:25 PM (MeG8a)

132
In Gaza it is more like 99 out of 100. I think losing 1% in total eradication is more than acceptable.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 24, 2023 12:17 PM (17s+e)

In Sodom, 10 righteous would have saved the city. But they could not be found.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2023 12:25 PM (MoZTd)

133 Speechless. Silent prayers for a righteous end from heaven above.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 24, 2023 12:25 PM (4I/2K)

134 We wouldn't want to express moral judgment about raping and killing children.

By not explicitly expressing a moral judgement, they HAVE expressed a moral judgement; that they implicitly approve.

Were the IRA terrorists, BBC? I think most British felt they were.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:25 PM (ynpvh)

135 So what's the acceptable term? Community activists? Aspiring hip-hop artists?

I didn't see the alternative. Just not terrorist!
Posted by: ace at October 24, 2023 12:09 PM (KRtlO)

Decap Enthusiasts.

Posted by: LASue at October 24, 2023 12:26 PM (L+68M)

136 Looks like Emmer is it... Gotta wait for the full vote but I bet some Dems will vote for him

Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 12:26 PM (bs+z0)

137 I think that allah should have been doing some massive sorting about 4 decades ago and certainly 2 decades ago.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 24, 2023 12:26 PM (17s+e)

138 116 Is Israel’s Endgame to Clear Out Gaza? Egypt Says No to Palestinian Refugees, Fearing New Nakba

Posted by: Intercepted Democracy Now! Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 24, 2023 12:23 PM (BN6WR)

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Sounds like Egypt is a bad guy here, huh? I fully expect the left to start marching on Egyptian embassies across the Western world.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:26 PM (GBKbO)

139 Wow, wow, wow. Sub-human is TIGHT!!!

Shut off their water and energy. Sink any NGO boats supplying this vermin.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at October 24, 2023 12:26 PM (nnp+f)

140 remember, if one thing reported turns out to be untrue, they will say it's all untrue.

like arguing with people who said that the cambodian communists didn't kill a third of their population, it was really only like a quarter.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 12:26 PM (B1FKF)

141 The same crowd who turns a blind eye to child trafficking and rape while maliciously attacks anyone who dares point out the blindness isn't going to be very troubled by the horror which has been unleashed on the children and women in Israel.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 24, 2023 12:27 PM (z5vMw)

142 The only way I can process this all and not lose my mind, is to concentrate on the fact that God is a just God and His judgement is Eternal.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2023 12:23 PM (h/xVB)

Exactly.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 24, 2023 12:27 PM (4I/2K)

143 This really wasn't necessary.

I'm already aware that the left is composed of inhuman ghouls who want their opponents dead.

They MOSTLY aren't willing to do it themselves, like the moderate muslims.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 24, 2023 12:27 PM (JMAcK)

144 >>
Decap Enthusiasts.
Posted by: LASue

Atrocity Adjacent?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 24, 2023 12:27 PM (l10hq)

145 Karen McWinemom will just say that Israel has done worse.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 24, 2023 12:27 PM (u73oe)

146 Re: concentration camps

I still highly recommend 'Night and Fog'. A French Film. Made 1955. Our history teacher made us watch it in 8th grade. It is on ewetub, but every single full length version is age restricted. Huh, I wonder why. So you can only watch if you are logged in.

Criterion did a restoration on it. I started watching it here on the work account and it looks quite good (I last saw it 35 years ago on a film projector from grainy.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 12:27 PM (zZu0s)

147 Finally! The NBA has an "out non-binary transgender" referee. About damn time!

Um, if that thing is truly non-binary, how will it be able to distinguish between foul/no-foul?

Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2023 12:27 PM (h/xVB)

148
Just so's you know, this is what "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" looks like.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2023 12:28 PM (MoZTd)

149 Again, the whole Hamas doesn't speak for the Gazans and it wasn't beheading-beheading is a standard PsyOp from the "International Community," and the PaliWood Usual Suspects.

This sort of bullshit has been the status quo for the last 60 years and more.

Israel faces a Panopticon of enemies from within and without, they are in a tight spot with no good solutions.

What they need to do, if they are able to, is tell the IC that there will never be a two-state solution because there is no other legitimate party that desires a two-state solution, which has been demonstrated by the last 5 offers from Israel for a two-state solution, reduce Gaza to rubble, then completely disengage from it, wall it off and destroy anything and anyone that crosses into Israel from Gaza, dealing with the US is going to be a harder road to hoe, I don't know how they go about it but Israel must disengage from the US to the extent possible.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2023 12:28 PM (rc3Z7)

150 Emmer is not a fan of Trump. Not a good move at this time to have him as speaker.

But what can we expect from the house? Idiocy only.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 24, 2023 12:28 PM (JeYYB)

151 Sounds like Egypt is a bad guy here, huh? I fully expect the left to start marching on Egyptian embassies across the Western world.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:26 PM

That's not what they're saying at all. Egypt is the hero, not allowing the evil Israelis to once again kick the Palestinians off their land. One Nakba was bad enough...never again.

Posted by: Intercepted Democracy Now! Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 24, 2023 12:28 PM (BN6WR)

152 Looks like Emmer is it... Gotta wait for the full vote but I bet some Dems will vote for him

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Not sure why he will fare better than those before him. Not sure why the Dems will all of a sudden vote for him over the current perceived chaos.

But who knows.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 24, 2023 12:28 PM (sX1BW)

153 FDR showed the American public uncensored film of the battle of Tarawa so that the American people would understand what evil we were fighting.

At the Nuremberg trials, films of the liberation of the death camps were shown so that people would understand the evil of the Nazi system and of men on trial.

Israel should show their videos to the world for the same reasons.

Posted by: Archer at October 24, 2023 12:28 PM (gmo/4)

154 146 Re: concentration camps

I still highly recommend 'Night and Fog'. A French Film. Made 1955. Our history teacher made us watch it in 8th grade. It is on ewetub, but every single full length version is age restricted. Huh, I wonder why. So you can only watch if you are logged in.

Criterion did a restoration on it. I started watching it here on the work account and it looks quite good (I last saw it 35 years ago on a film projector from grainy.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 12:27 PM (zZu0s)

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One day I'll watch Shoah. I saw about a 45 minute segment in a college class, and it was completely engrossing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:28 PM (GBKbO)

155 23 What are they transitioning to and from if they're "non-binary"?
Posted by: Ian S. at October 24, 2023 12:10 PM (2ocoG)

It basically means they have such little chance of ever passing that even their best friends won't call them by feminine pronouns, so they have to save face by saying they're "non-binary" instead of asking to be called a girl.

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 12:28 PM (sm6Pk)

156 Nastier than walking skeletons? Nastier than what looks like mummies lying in the street? Crematorium doors open to show the corpses piled inside?

Worse than that?

*flips to page 573 and wants to gag*

Photograph of a bin full of bodies of Jews cut in half. They were going to be part of a French exhibit of 86 skeletons for 'educational' purposes under the auspices of Dr. August Hirt of the Strasbourg University Institute of Anatomy.

Before Hirt and his fellow vermin could destroy the evidence the Allies arrived.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2023 12:28 PM (wRddn)

157 The next time the Hadj is in full swing, drop a Nuke on Mecca.

Lets finish this barbarism for good.

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 12:29 PM (8+ld9)

158
They MOSTLY aren't willing to do it themselves, like the moderate muslims.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 24, 2023 12:27 PM (JMAcK)

The radical Muslim wants to kill you.

The moderate Muslim wants the radical Muslim to kill you.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2023 12:29 PM (MoZTd)

159 Not sure why he will fare better than those before him. Not sure why the Dems will all of a sudden vote for him over the current perceived chaos.

I'm thinking he's more "flexible "

Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 12:29 PM (bs+z0)

160 Finally! The NBA has an "out non-binary transgender" referee. About damn time!

Um, if that thing is truly non-binary, how will it be able to distinguish between foul/no-foul?
Posted by: Tonypete

Non binary by definition demands binary.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 12:29 PM (l8w2w)

161 117 The only way I can process this all and not lose my mind, is to concentrate on the fact that God is a just God and His judgement is Eternal.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2023 12:23 PM (h/xVB)

I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal";
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
Since God is marching on.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 12:29 PM (zZu0s)

162 151 That's not what they're saying at all. Egypt is the hero, not allowing the evil Israelis to once again kick the Palestinians off their land. One Nakba was bad enough...never again.
Posted by: Intercepted Democracy Now! Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 24, 2023 12:28 PM (BN6WR)

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Ah, a terrible misreading on my part based on assumptions that the writers would want civilians out of a warzone.

Hamas is a hero for forcing the Gazan people to stay there during the fighting, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:29 PM (GBKbO)

163 So, question for AP:

What do you call people who intentionally target civilians in a war?

If you don't want to go with "terrorists", seems the only other option is "war criminals", no?

Oh, right. It's not about being accurate, it's about defending Hamas because you agree with their aims.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 24, 2023 12:29 PM (JMAcK)

164 remember, if one thing reported turns out to be untrue, they will say it's all untrue.

like arguing with people who said that the cambodian communists didn't kill a third of their population, it was really only like a quarter.

Posted by: gnats local 678
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Trump lied when he said that 82% of democrats were for illegal immigration. It was only 81% of democrats for illegal immigration. Trump is a liar.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 24, 2023 12:29 PM (17s+e)

165 Can we stop referring to them as “Hamas terrorists” or "Hamas militants” and use the proper term …
“Hamas Animals”

Posted by: SMOD at October 24, 2023 12:29 PM (RHGPo)

166 The subhuman monsters of Hamas were also raping the dead bodies of the young Israeli women they killed.

Because that is allowed under Islam, you see.

Quick, let's give these insane Nazi monkeys their own country!!

Posted by: Sharkman at October 24, 2023 12:30 PM (+RqLW)

167 118
...
Anna, total war means POW and Work Camps will starve. Same thing happened at Andersonville. Grant's total war means cutting all transportation of food and material. As a result prisoners don't eat. What was seen there was the results of total war - the weak and defenseless die.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 12:23 PM (e9bwN)

Indeed. When you fight against those who would eradicate you and all your people, half measures don't work. They engage in ruthless, murderous behaviors, those CAN'T be met with half-hearted reactions muted by rules of engagement that cause more of yours to die needlessly. How do you cut off supplies from Hamas? You have to cut off ALL supplies to where they are hunkered down. Giving food and supplies to the "civilians" only means the civilians will starve and suffer while the terrorists in their midst eat and care for their wounds.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:30 PM (ynpvh)

168 Anna, total war means POW and Work Camps will starve. Same thing happened at Andersonville. Grant's total war means cutting all transportation of food and material. As a result prisoners don't eat. What was seen there was the results of total war - the weak and defenseless die.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 12:23 PM (e9bwN)

Work Camps? You mean slave labor camps where the captives were intentionally worked to death. This occurred when Germany was at its peak. There is no excuse for their atrocities.

Posted by: Drive by at October 24, 2023 12:30 PM (MNhXM)

169 165 Can we stop referring to them as “Hamas terrorists” or "Hamas militants” and use the proper term …
“Hamas Animals”
Posted by: SMOD at October 24, 2023 12:29 PM (RHGPo)

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I shall, henceforth, refer to them as the Hamas Porcupines.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:30 PM (GBKbO)

170 perhaps when militants who want to decolonize southern california start to... nah.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 12:30 PM (B1FKF)

171 I'm fascinated by the way the left is using language with a fair amount of success to frame the narrative with the Israeli - Hamas situation.

When your enemy has leveraged language to the point all you can do is muster some impotent moral outrage at how they describe the world to you, it's time to reevaluate your current methods.

Spoiler: It's time to reevaluate things.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 24, 2023 12:31 PM (Q4IgG)

172 I can never get too far past thinking about the *living* people at the camps, and how when they were freed they weren't allowed to eat or drink very much right away or that would've killed them.

The idea that you'd been treated - by other humans - in a way that would make exposure to food and water deadly...

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 24, 2023 12:31 PM (WqnnI)

173 I'm sure there are innocent souls in Gaza. I also believe that God would rescue/protect them during a "cleansing" or take them home to Himself.

So "cleanse" away, Israel. Cleanse the land and only spare those whom God directs you to spare.

Posted by: Emmie at October 24, 2023 12:31 PM (Sf2cq)

174 Just as Cruel as the Terrorists’: Many Ordinary Palestinians Animals Joined in Hamas Animal’s Atrocities Against Israel

Posted by: SMOD at October 24, 2023 12:31 PM (RHGPo)

175 121 The savages will use these terrible videos as training manuals. I'm gonna say don't. Whoever needed to see it saw it. And even without the videos understood it.

Posted by: runner at October 24, 2023 12:23 PM (hht4k)

They NEED to be available. The bastards ALREADY have their own videos and pictures they are sending around. This needs to be documented, like the Holocaust. There needs to be a body of undeniable proof.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:31 PM (ynpvh)

176
I still highly recommend 'Night and Fog'.

Is good.

'One Day In Auschwitz' is also good. Not so much gore but very good description of the horror by a survivor who walks the grounds and through a number of the buildings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZYgzW2fS0o

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 24, 2023 12:31 PM (enJYY)

177 Nastier than walking skeletons? Nastier than what looks like mummies lying in the street? Crematorium doors open to show the corpses piled inside?

Hey, we're 2/3rds there already!!!

Posted by: Streets of Philly, LA, San Fran, etc at October 24, 2023 12:31 PM (BN6WR)

178 We're not colonizers we're conquerers.

So, STFDASTFU.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 24, 2023 12:32 PM (JeYYB)

179 “Hamas Animals”
Posted by: SMOD at October 24, 2023 12:29 PM (RHGPo)

Animals don't deserve being lumped in with those oxygen thieves

Posted by: A dude in MI at October 24, 2023 12:32 PM (/6GbT)

180 Morning.

Completely agree with Ace. Fucking vile, Jew hating motherfuckers are all running around apologizing for the pali's crimes. We need this footage out there in public view. It's not going to change any of the Jew hater's minds, but in case there is anyone on the fence about this maybe we can bring them back to reality.

Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2023 12:32 PM (y4EKV)

181 136 Looks like Emmer is it... Gotta wait for the full vote but I bet some Dems will vote for him
Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 12:26 PM (bs+z0)

While Dems may like the choice, none will vote for him. Rs will have to find the votes without them.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 12:33 PM (exHjb)

182 It's very clever when you think about it.

Using "Hamas" or "Hamas militants" separates them from Palestine and the Palestinians. It makes them not-the-government, and not an act of war. They're not REALLY representative of the poor innocent put-upon Palestinian residents. They're Hamas!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 24, 2023 12:33 PM (WqnnI)

183 Did you ever imagine you lived in a world where you had to check the ethnicity of the rape victims to determine if the rapes should be condemned?

Where politicians and newsmen argue whether burning a mother and daughter alive is justified?

If they refuse to make those black and white, clear distinctions of evil now, what do you think they have in store for you?

When their death squads come to rape and murder your child?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 24, 2023 12:33 PM (TzW+Y)

184 Have we heard anything on the murder of the Jewish lady in Detroit? Her sister is a huge leftist activist politician running for office here in NC and it was in the local news but then disappeared.

Posted by: nckate at October 24, 2023 12:33 PM (SnxUt)

185 168 Work Camps? You mean slave labor camps where the captives were intentionally worked to death. This occurred when Germany was at its peak. There is no excuse for their atrocities.
Posted by: Drive by at October 24, 2023 12:30 PM (MNhXM)

Something, something, Zeks. Something, something, Dignity Canals...

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 12:33 PM (sm6Pk)

186 24
'They aren't going to go full Zulu. '
I agree on the fat lazy, lesbian mayors. The rest? You're fooling yourself if you believe that.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 24, 2023 12:34 PM (isHpZ)

187 While Dems may like the choice, none will vote for him. Rs will have to find the votes without them.
Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 12:33 PM (exHjb)

I hope so... Like it the way it is... They can't pass any stupid stuff

Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 12:34 PM (bs+z0)

188 Memory of the Camps, (by Hitchcock?)

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at October 24, 2023 12:34 PM (+vFC3)

189 I shall, henceforth, refer to them as the Hamas Porcupines.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:30 PM (GBKbO)
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I'm gonna have to go with the Hamas Hagfish for a team name. Slimy, gross, parasitic...perfectly describes a typical Hamas "militant."

Apparently Hagfish can enter and devour their prey from the inside. They're a perfect mascot for Team Hamas!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 24, 2023 12:34 PM (YIVH2)

190 I watched all of Shoah in a theater when I was in college. Hard stuff to sit through.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 24, 2023 12:34 PM (JrojV)

191 Israel releasing the videos assumes one thing that I don't think will happen, the media releasing the videos for people to see. I think the AP would never show the videos because of the the effect it would have on people. Note people not democrats which would have no effect other than hardening them against Israel.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 24, 2023 12:34 PM (17s+e)

192 Related to a link I dropped in the previous thread,

Daily Mail: Israeli woman, 85, whose gesture of peace towards Hamas captors was seen around the world explains why she did it despite 'going through hell'

https://tinyurl.com/4rxbju8h

It's a primitive honor society. While you're their "guest" they'll take care of you well enough. When you're no longer under their "care" they'll brutalize you in every conceivable way.

Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2023 12:34 PM (y4EKV)

193 This needs to be broadcast in Israeli TV on a 24/7 loop with everyone on Twitter posting links to the feed.

Posted by: Montec at October 24, 2023 12:34 PM (bWsRe)

194 190 I watched all of Shoah in a theater when I was in college. Hard stuff to sit through.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 24, 2023 12:34 PM (JrojV)

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And it's all just interviews.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:35 PM (GBKbO)

195 "Just don't call 'em "savages".
Posted by: BignJames"

Who are we to criticize their culture?

Posted by: fd at October 24, 2023 12:35 PM (vFG9F)

196 That's satire yall.

Posted by: fd at October 24, 2023 12:35 PM (vFG9F)

197 Finally! The NBA has an "out non-binary transgender" referee.

I would say that this sort of thing would cause me to stop watching the NBA but I've never found basketball even remotely interesting.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 12:35 PM (zhLdt)

198 Hamas is proud of what they've done along while doing a bloody end zone dance yet a significant portion of the world continues to deny the atrocities happened.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 24, 2023 12:35 PM (z5vMw)

199 I still highly recommend 'Night and Fog'. A French Film. Made 1955. Our history teacher made us watch it in 8th grade.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Yeah - my German born HS German teacher showed it to us in class. Some of my HS classmates had parents that were Holocaust survivors. A few also attended and took questions afterward.

Barbara Turkeltaub was one of the speakers:
https://is.gd/tsEaq9

Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2023 12:35 PM (h/xVB)

200 You can get bagels anywhere now. You use fire to clear weeds and wasps. If you don't want your hair mussed, shave your head.
We have to decolonize families in Buffalo and Palestine
It 's Jews, Trump and Nazis get with it

Posted by: Leftie Hamas at October 24, 2023 12:35 PM (B56Jj)

201 If Emmer gets it I will never vote Republican again. Fuck all of them.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 24, 2023 12:35 PM (l10hq)

202 195 "Just don't call 'em "savages".
Posted by: BignJames"

Who are we to criticize their culture?
Posted by: fd at October 24, 2023 12:35 PM (vFG9F)

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If I had a DU account, I'd be throwing that into everyone's faces all the time. I'd be the most aggressively to the left jackhole possible, and it would entertain me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:36 PM (GBKbO)

203 187 While Dems may like the choice, none will vote for him. Rs will have to find the votes without them.
Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 12:33 PM (exHjb)

I hope so... Like it the way it is... They can't pass any stupid stuff
Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 12:34 PM (bs+z0)

Yup. If he doesn't have the votes, we can try again.

We have all the time in the world...Dems are the ones under pressure right now.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 12:36 PM (exHjb)

204 If "militants" and "terrorists" are not acceptable, how about "barbarians?"

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 24, 2023 12:36 PM (tMeeI)

205 They NEED to be available. The bastards ALREADY have their own videos and pictures they are sending around. This needs to be documented, like the Holocaust. There needs to be a body of undeniable proof.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:31 PM (ynpvh)
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I agree in principle. However, people are very capable of rejecting reality to service their own delusional beliefs. People still think the Earth is flat, despite all evidence to the contrary.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 24, 2023 12:36 PM (YIVH2)

206 by the way, aren't you glad that in this time of international crises we have such an experienced and stable hand on the controls like joe biden?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 12:36 PM (B1FKF)

207 If Emmer gets it I will never vote Republican again. Fuck all of them.

That's a solid reason for Emmer to get it, honestly. Might wake up a lot of Republican voters that the party itself is the problem.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 24, 2023 12:37 PM (2ocoG)

208 How do you cut off supplies from Hamas? You have to cut off ALL supplies to where they are hunkered down. Giving food and supplies to the "civilians" only means the civilians will starve and suffer while the terrorists in their midst eat and care for their wounds.

= =

I just want to interject the perspective that there are no civilians in Gaza. There are no innocents. There is Hamas, and there are those who support and stand in front of Hamas to shield them. The two-state solution has always been a Kafka Trap. Israel can never win, no matter what it does. 1,400 butchered and nobody is telling "The Innocents" in Gaza (or the Arab / Islamic World) to clean their own house and expel the trouble makers. No, every breath is about Israel and their reaction. Golly, I wonder why?

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at October 24, 2023 12:37 PM (AD14M)

209 160 Finally! The NBA has an "out non-binary transgender" referee. About damn time!

Um, if that thing is truly non-binary, how will it be able to distinguish between foul/no-foul?
Posted by: Tonypete

Non binary by definition demands binary.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 12:29 PM (l8w2w)

It's like plant-based milk; an oxymoron. Plants don't have mammaries to feed their offspring. That's like bird milk or lizard milk.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:37 PM (ynpvh)

210 202 If I had a DU account, I'd be throwing that into everyone's faces all the time. I'd be the most aggressively to the left jackhole possible, and it would entertain me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:36 PM (GBKbO)

Exactly. Any one of them that would say they wouldn't let a Jihadi rape them, I'd say "You aren't distributing your sexual resource equitably, comrade."

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 12:37 PM (sm6Pk)

211 Aetius

Do you know why the film was called Night and Fog?

pg 576. Picture of an American GI holding up prisoner clothing marked "nn"

The letters "NN" stand for Nacht und Nebel{night and fog). The Night and Fog decree issued by Hitler on December 2, 1941, was intended for use against sabotage organizations and those guilty of espionage.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2023 12:37 PM (wRddn)

212 BLM stands for Black Lesbian Mayors. They are in it for the Zuckerbucks. They invest their Zuckerbucks in tony white neighborhoods. They aren't going to go full Zulu. They like nice things. Think Oprah with a M-16 - its ludicrous.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 12:11 PM (naiw2)

A lot of their followers aren't. They aren't getting rich from this and they aren't foolin'. They intend to take what they cannot, or will not, earn.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 12:38 PM (zhLdt)

213 "Hamas doesn't have hostages ... they're guests."

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 24, 2023 12:38 PM (iRT5g)

214 " how about "barbarians?"
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo"

That's my current term, because I haven't come up with anything better yet. "Barbarian savages" maybe.

Posted by: fd at October 24, 2023 12:38 PM (vFG9F)

215 195 "Just don't call 'em "savages".
Posted by: BignJames"

Who are we to criticize their culture?
Posted by: fd at October 24, 2023 12:35 PM (vFG9F)

Who do I have to be?

Posted by: Captain James T Kirk at October 24, 2023 12:38 PM (zZu0s)

216 @201

>>If Emmer gets it I will never vote Republican again. Fuck all of them.

So we will go from a GOP SOH from California to GOP SOH from Minnesota?

Sounds about right for this illegitimate political party.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2023 12:38 PM (rc3Z7)

217 Outkick: MEGAN RAPINOE, WHOSE FIANCÉE IS ISRAELI, RAISES MONEY FOR GAZA AFTER HAMAS TERRORIST ATTACK

https://tinyurl.com/4486ndrs

Via Ed Driscoll at Instapundit.

Purple hair means Jew hater, I guess.

Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2023 12:38 PM (y4EKV)

218 Work Camps? You mean slave labor camps where the captives were intentionally worked to death. This occurred when Germany was at its peak. There is no excuse for their atrocities.
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That's exactly what I mean. That's was the plan to maintain Germany's economy without deprivation to the Germans. Germany didn't go to a full war economy until 1943. This was after Stalingrad. Yes, they used slave labor at work camps. They had to feed them to get the labor. When they couldn't feed them a lot of them died.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 12:38 PM (e9bwN)

219 by the way, aren't you glad that in this time of international crises we have such an experienced and stable hand on the controls like joe biden?

--

I suspect this is part of why we're going to get involved.

"In spite of the economy, energy prices, and inflation, voters turned out to support the sitting president over Trump because they recognize that you don't switch horses mid-stream and it's best to maintain that established leadership structure of the office during wartime. That goes a long way in explaining Biden's 120M votes."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 24, 2023 12:39 PM (WqnnI)

220 "Hamas doesn't have hostages ... they're guests."
Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 24, 2023 12:38 PM (iRT5g)
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That's exactly the term supervillains use when they want to demotivate the hero from attempting to escape.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 24, 2023 12:39 PM (YIVH2)

221 *fistbump*
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 12:20 PM

*fistbump*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 24, 2023 12:39 PM (aQy7p)

222 Where is the Gazan Resistance, helping the Israelis free the peaceful majority from their oppressive Hamas captivity?

Oh, there isn't one, is there?
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (/QIWP)

France had tens of millions of resistance operatives fighting the oppressor nazis... or so they said after the liberation. I'm sure Gaza would see some of the same.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 12:40 PM (zhLdt)

223 "Who do I have to be?
Posted by: Captain James T Kirk "

You be you Jim. You rock!

Posted by: the Horta at October 24, 2023 12:40 PM (vFG9F)

224 It's a primitive honor society. While you're their "guest" they'll take care of you well enough. When you're no longer under their "care" they'll brutalize you in every conceivable way.
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Yup. For desert Arabs.
If you call the correct greeting, asking for shelter in his tent, they are bound to offer you a chair.

A weird thing I've heard is, much of the medieval chivalry were notions brought back by knights returning from the crusades from their interactions with the Arabs.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 24, 2023 12:40 PM (TzW+Y)

225 Barbarian savages" maybe.
Posted by: fd at October 24, 2023 12:38 PM (vFG9F)
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Even barbarians loved their kids enough to not send them on suicide missions.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 24, 2023 12:40 PM (z5vMw)

226 _That's my current term, because I haven't come up with anything better yet. "Barbarian savages" maybe._

I also call them Dollar Store Nazis

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 24, 2023 12:40 PM (tMeeI)

227 That's exactly the term supervillains use when they want to demotivate the hero from attempting to escape.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 24, 2023 12:39 PM (YIVH2)

Yeah, but I bet the busty redheads/blondes in diaphanous garments are in short supply.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 12:40 PM (zZu0s)

228 So we will go from a GOP SOH from California to GOP SOH from Minnesota?

Sounds about right for this illegitimate political party.

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As with all prior SOH candidates (who all failed by the way), I'm willing to give him a shot.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 24, 2023 12:40 PM (sX1BW)

229 >>>I'd really like Grabien to put together video contrasting the media branding J6 protesters as "insurrectionists" or "terrorists" with those same media figures referring to Hamas terrorists as "militants."

This is really what grinds my gears.

I agree -- "terrorist" is a charged term. If the rule is to never use not-neutral language in any reporting, fine.

But that seems to be a very selectively enforced rule. They use non-neutral language nearly 100% of the time when referring to R's and R voters.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 24, 2023 12:41 PM (mj0Qp)

230 219 I suspect this is part of why we're going to get involved.

"In spite of the economy, energy prices, and inflation, voters turned out to support the sitting president over Trump because they recognize that you don't switch horses mid-stream and it's best to maintain that established leadership structure of the office during wartime. That goes a long way in explaining Biden's 120M votes."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at October 24, 2023 12:39 PM (WqnnI)

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"Because of the strong economy, the control at the border, and the peacetime abroad, Philadelphia itself cast 45 million ballots in favor of Joe Biden."

They'll come up with any reason. It doesn't matter. The cheating will happen, no one will seriously fight it, and we'll just get more of this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:41 PM (GBKbO)

231 " how about "barbarians?"

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Death Cult Barbarians.

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 24, 2023 12:41 PM (niARo)

232 Across the breadth of the Third Reich's empire, there were some 600+ slave labor camps. The concentration camps are counted among that number.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2023 12:41 PM (wRddn)

233 These monsters also butchered family pets.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 24, 2023 12:41 PM (NpAcC)

234 205 They NEED to be available. The bastards ALREADY have their own videos and pictures they are sending around. This needs to be documented, like the Holocaust. There needs to be a body of undeniable proof.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:31 PM (ynpvh)
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I agree in principle. However, people are very capable of rejecting reality to service their own delusional beliefs. People still think the Earth is flat, despite all evidence to the contrary.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 24, 2023 12:36 PM (YIVH2)

And what percentage of people is that? Reminds me of the stat that if you were able to get all the white supremacists in this country in one place, it would hardly fill a small stadium. Same with flat-earthers and others; the evidence to the contrary is so overwhelming that only someone willingly ignoring it can believe the contrary. That needs to be the metric here, like with the Holocaust.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:41 PM (ynpvh)

235 Read that some Dems may be absent to get Emmer.

Posted by: jeannebodine at October 24, 2023 12:42 PM (Tqm9i)

236 The Evil of Hamas makes me so mad it's not funny

Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2023 12:42 PM (FIUji)

237 Is there any defense/apologia/minimization for the events that doesn't just boil down to, "Those armed men raped those women and killed those babies in self defense"?

Because not even Frank Luntz could swallow that one.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 24, 2023 12:12 PM (z+89e)

The 'apologists' would say that they were Jews and, therefore, not human. Lots of people would agree. Some openly, some not.

Sadly, that is where the world is.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 12:42 PM (zhLdt)

238 213 "Hamas doesn't have hostages ... they're guests."

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 24, 2023 12:38 PM (iRT5g)

Some years back, a website had a number of arabic phrases to use if you were a hostage. One translated to,
"This bread and water is delicious; where can I get the recipe?"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:43 PM (ynpvh)

239 If Emmer gets it, it's a reality of the current House that we need more Repubs trending our way vs the Uniparty way. It would be dumb to cut our nose off to spite our face and give Dems the power they had in Biden's 1st term, where we were getting absolutely destroyed as a people. The bleeding is slowing, and with McCarthy gone, hopefully that continues. Deciding to shoot ourselves in the foot again by staying home in 2024 is a fool's decision. The better is to primary your own rep (especially if they were one of the 22 against Jordan), even yourself, and push the Repubs more our way b/c the Dems are a lost cause and thinking you'll peel any off from that party ever is a fool's errand.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 12:43 PM (exHjb)

240 "However, people are very capable of rejecting reality to service their own delusional beliefs."

Example: Karaoke Night.

Posted by: fd at October 24, 2023 12:43 PM (vFG9F)

241 Reminds me of the stat that if you were able to get all the white supremacists in this country in one place, it would hardly fill a small stadium.

That's even probably inflating it. Even knowing the FBI stat that 12% of the population (online edgelords like to say 13%, but that's an outdated figured because of the open border) commits well over half of the crime gets you tagged as "white supremacist" now.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 24, 2023 12:43 PM (2ocoG)

242 by the way, aren't you glad that in this time of international crises we have such an experienced and stable hand on the controls like joe biden?

I was promised more peace and global stability if the US would elect a serious, respected leader like Joe Biden. I'm beginning to think that may have been a lie.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 24, 2023 12:43 PM (BN6WR)

243 @228

>>As with all prior SOH candidates (who all failed by the way), I'm willing to give him a shot.

He worked with a Soros backed group to advance The America Popular Vote Initiative that would effectively end the Electoral College and essentially hand the Presidency over to the Democrat Party for the foreseeable future, he's also a virulent Anti-Trumper, so uhm, no.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2023 12:43 PM (rc3Z7)

244 217 Outkick: MEGAN RAPINOE, WHOSE FIANCÉE IS ISRAELI, RAISES MONEY FOR GAZA AFTER HAMAS TERRORIST ATTACK

https://tinyurl.com/4486ndrs

Via Ed Driscoll at Instapundit.

Purple hair means Jew hater, I guess.

Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2023 12:38 PM (y4EKV)

pretty much means you hate everybody.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:44 PM (ynpvh)

245 These monsters also butchered family pets.

The Viet Cong in Hue during the Tet Offensive wiped one entire family out including the goldfish.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2023 12:44 PM (wRddn)

246 Just texted Mrs Meanie that we are being betrayed on all sides—church, politics, community. We Catholics are having to deal with this fucking Argentine Antichrist.

My in laws are in town and they just seem to be accepting the decline of our country (they’re old so I get that their GAS meter isn’t working anymore).

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 24, 2023 12:44 PM (QEQiv)

247 Killing a baby with a bomb > Cutting a baby's head off manually

- - - - Democrat Media Establishment
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 12:13 PM (vf0Uk)

Frankly, I'm just surprised that the Dems aren't calling for the Palis to send royalties to Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 12:44 PM (zhLdt)

248 243 He worked with a Soros backed group to advance The America Popular Vote Initiative that would effectively end the Electoral College and essentially hand the Presidency over to the Democrat Party for the foreseeable future, he's also a virulent Anti-Trumper, so uhm, no.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2023 12:43 PM (rc3Z7)

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Sounds like a perfect Republican in good standing to me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:44 PM (GBKbO)

249 232 Across the breadth of the Third Reich's empire, there were some 600+ slave labor camps. The concentration camps are counted among that number.
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Yeah, that sounds about right. The purpose of the camps was to mine labor at the lowest price possible. They were pretty much a doppelganger of the Soviet work camps.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 12:44 PM (e9bwN)

250 The 'apologists' would say that they were Jews and, therefore, not human. Lots of people would agree. Some openly, some not.

Sadly, that is where the world is.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 12:42 PM (zhLdt)
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That's not what many will say. That's not even what many will choose to believe about their positions.

The reason - as is being stated by most, and perhaps even believed by most of them - comes down to two buzzwords: "colonization" and "apartheid." Israel is a colonial apartheid state, and this is Hamas' actions, while perhaps excessive, are not unjustified in the battle for justice and to undo the apartheid regime.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 12:45 PM (d04cU)

251 And what percentage of people is that? Reminds me of the stat that if you were able to get all the white supremacists in this country in one place, it would hardly fill a small stadium. Same with flat-earthers and others; the evidence to the contrary is so overwhelming that only someone willingly ignoring it can believe the contrary. That needs to be the metric here, like with the Holocaust.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:41 PM (ynpvh)
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I'd say there's a much higher percentage of Holocaust deniers than flat-Earthers.

Remember, many of those folks who deny the first Holocaust are all too eager to create a second one.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 24, 2023 12:45 PM (YIVH2)

252 If the water was left off the problem in Gaza would have resolved itself by now.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 24, 2023 12:46 PM (C4HV4)

253 Schindler of Schindlers List was tapping labor from the slave camps. Not much room for collective bargaining

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 24, 2023 12:46 PM (QEQiv)

254 The people who told us immediately that Israel bombed a hospital and killed 500 don't want us to jump to conclusions about decapitation.

Also also I'm pretty sure there are forensic clues to determine how the decapitation happened.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 24, 2023 12:47 PM (X7yt5)

255
Across the breadth of the Third Reich's empire, there were some 600+ slave labor camps. The concentration camps are counted among that number.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2023 12:41 PM

As the Soviets moved in from the west side of Germany, they moved prisoners to camps to the east. In 'One Day In Auschwitz' the woman describes being moved to something like six separate camp, each one progressively further east.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 24, 2023 12:47 PM (enJYY)

256 We had a two state solution already. The two states were Israel and Jordan. How did that work out? If another two state solution is offered, it just means to cut Israel in half, and lead to another two state solution proposal, until Israel is gone.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 24, 2023 12:47 PM (lK3kz)

257 250
The reason - as is being stated by most, and perhaps even believed by most of them - comes down to two buzzwords: "colonization" and "apartheid." Israel is a colonial apartheid state, and this is Hamas' actions, while perhaps excessive, are not unjustified in the battle for justice and to undo the apartheid regime.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 12:45 PM (d04cU)

The irony being that in a muslim state, christians and jews are a lower class. Isn't that "Apartheid"? And when muzzies conquer a land, don't the "Colonize"? Yeah, the same old blamd-the-other-guy-for-what-I-do gambit.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

258 JPost: Squad of female IDF combat troops eliminated nearly 100 Hamas terrorists

https://tinyurl.com/msj73rc2

I hope these ladies shot all their dicks off.

Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2023 12:48 PM (y4EKV)

259 Reminds me of the stat that if you were able to get all the white supremacists in this country in one place, it would hardly fill a small stadium.

Well, if you gave us more lead time to arrange travel I'm sure we could fill up a larger stadium.

Posted by: the FBI at October 24, 2023 12:48 PM (xttsV)

260 246 Just texted Mrs Meanie that we are being betrayed on all sides—church, politics, community. We Catholics are having to deal with this fucking Argentine Antichrist.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 24, 2023 12:44 PM (QEQiv)

Question for all Catholics here. Has anything been said from the pulpit regarding Israel? Prayers specifically for Israel?

At my parish, we pray for peace in the Ukraine with a Hail Mary. And maybe include "violence everywhere". That is it. This is the best we can do for the Holy Land.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 24, 2023 12:48 PM (N39Ws)

261 Tee hee!

Posted by: McCarthy, McConnell, McDaniels at October 24, 2023 12:48 PM (/qa9n)

262 257 The irony being that in a muslim state, christians and jews are a lower class. Isn't that "Apartheid"? And when muzzies conquer a land, don't the "Colonize"? Yeah, the same old blamd-the-other-guy-for-what-I-do gambit.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

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Also...Gaza is an independent nation that had no Israeli presence within it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:48 PM (GBKbO)

263 A war correspondent reporting from the front lines.

https://tinyurl.com/bdh63whf

Posted by: lost in space at October 24, 2023 12:48 PM (5CKpx)

264 You be you Jim. You rock!
Posted by: the Horta

No rape I!
No behead I!
No cremate I!

Posted by: Jewish Horta at October 24, 2023 12:49 PM (w9Wax)

265 "Just don't call 'em "savages".
Posted by: BignJames"

Who are we to criticize their culture?
Posted by: fd

I will. They are fucking animals and deserve an animal's treatment.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 12:49 PM (l8w2w)

266 251 And what percentage of people is that? Reminds me of the stat that if you were able to get all the white supremacists in this country in one place, it would hardly fill a small stadium. Same with flat-earthers and others; the evidence to the contrary is so overwhelming that only someone willingly ignoring it can believe the contrary. That needs to be the metric here, like with the Holocaust.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:41 PM (ynpvh)
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I'd say there's a much higher percentage of Holocaust deniers than flat-Earthers.

Remember, many of those folks who deny the first Holocaust are all too eager to create a second one.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 24, 2023 12:45 PM (YIVH2)

The cognative dissonance is amazing, too.
"There was not Holocaust of the Jews"
"Hiter should have killed all the Jews!"
Umm...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:49 PM (ynpvh)

267 Israel is a colonial apartheid state, and this is Hamas' actions, while perhaps excessive, are not unjustified in the battle for justice and to undo the apartheid regime.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 12:45 PM (d04cU)
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You too can, with this one weird trick, create the necessary sound bite for the mental gymnastics needed to overlook horror!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 24, 2023 12:50 PM (z5vMw)

268 In the interview on al arabia hamas spokesmouth used russia losing 30 (?) million, to liberate its land in wwii. As an example. So it's all good and worth the liberation of Israel from the Ehudi.

Posted by: runner at October 24, 2023 12:50 PM (hht4k)

269 "I just want to interject the perspective that there are no civilians in Gaza. There are no innocents."

hmm

Posted by: DOYLE at October 24, 2023 12:50 PM (Z8Yh2)

270 >>>Frankly, I'm just surprised that the Dems aren't calling for the Palis to send royalties to Planned Parenthood.

I see did some one banner in a protest stating: REPRODUCTION JUSTICE MEANS FREE PALESTINE.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 24, 2023 12:50 PM (CwhoI)

271 257 The irony being that in a muslim state, christians and jews are a lower class. Isn't that "Apartheid"? And when muzzies conquer a land, don't the "Colonize"? Yeah, the same old blamd-the-other-guy-for-what-I-do gambit.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

It's OK when they do it because "brown people".

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 12:50 PM (sm6Pk)

272 Outkick: MEGAN RAPINOE, WHOSE FIANCÉE IS ISRAELI, RAISES MONEY FOR GAZA AFTER HAMAS TERRORIST ATTACK

https://tinyurl.com/4486ndrs

Via Ed Driscoll at Instapundit.

Purple hair means Jew hater, I guess.

Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2023 12:38 PM (y4EKV)

pretty much means you hate everybody.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:44 PM (ynpvh

Perfect example that the Left will always take the opposite side regardless of right or wrong. Just like they were okay with Hitler when he had a pact with Stalin.

Posted by: Drive by at October 24, 2023 12:50 PM (MNhXM)

273 The footage would be inspiring to BLM, Antifa, and MS-13 types… all of whom hate us as much as Palis hate Jews. It would be porn to them.

It’s to the point where I look at these leftists protesting Israel and I think “I’m going to probably have to fight these people soon”

Posted by: weew at October 24, 2023 12:50 PM (EaEMG)

274 Schindler of Schindlers List was tapping labor from the slave camps. Not much room for collective bargaining
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 24, 2023 12:46 PM (QEQiv)
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As a candidate for the Dumbest Comment Ever Posted, this deserves to be remembered.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 24, 2023 12:51 PM (TPWfc)

275 Just texted Mrs Meanie that we are being betrayed on all sides—church, politics, community. We Catholics are having to deal with this fucking Argentine Antichrist.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie

You really want to get pissed off? One of voting (!!) delegates to the Rome Synod is some stupid 22 yr old bint whose major idea is that LGBMOUSEBBQ folks are 'underserved' within the Church.

A fooking 22 yr old idjit - never married, no children, no life experience and she gets a fooking vote.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2023 12:51 PM (h/xVB)

276 254 The people who told us immediately that Israel bombed a hospital and killed 500 don't want us to jump to conclusions about decapitation.

Also also I'm pretty sure there are forensic clues to determine how the decapitation happened.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 24, 2023 12:47 PM (X7yt5)

Especially when there is no evidence anywhere of an RPG going off. It's like the RPG disintegrated more thoroughly than the Hamas rocket that hit the hospital parking lot, except for those pieces of shrapnel that decapitated babies (that can't be found either), right?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:51 PM (ynpvh)

277 Question for all Catholics here. Has anything been said from the pulpit regarding Israel? Prayers specifically for Israel?

At my parish, we pray for peace in the Ukraine with a Hail Mary. And maybe include "violence everywhere". That is it. This is the best we can do for the Holy Land.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 24, 2023 12:48 PM (N39Ws

My church in Naples, Florida has had a weekly prayer for Israel. My church is also conservative. I see Newt Gingrich there regularly.

Posted by: tofer732 at October 24, 2023 12:51 PM (W+1KM)

278 @260. Nothing specific about the war in Israel, just generalities about peace.

Because prayers totally ended WWII

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 24, 2023 12:51 PM (QEQiv)

279 258 JPost: Squad of female IDF combat troops eliminated nearly 100 Hamas terrorists

https://tinyurl.com/msj73rc2

I hope these ladies shot all their dicks off.

Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2023 12:48 PM (y4EKV)

And shoved them in their terrorist mouths and asses.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:52 PM (ynpvh)

280 The camp Eisenhower, Patton, and Bradley visited was at Ohrduf on April 4, 1945.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2023 12:52 PM (wRddn)

281 265 "Just don't call 'em "savages".
Posted by: BignJames"

Who are we to criticize their culture?
Posted by: fd

I will. They are fucking animals and deserve an animal's treatment.
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The Hamas/Hezbollah guys remind me of the Comanches. They just enjoy destroying life a bit too much.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 12:53 PM (naiw2)

282 I agree... When Daniel Pearl was beheaded I made myself watch it...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 12:20 PM (bs+z0)

I watched that kid...Nick...somebody, being beheaded in Iraq by Zarqawi?...then I wished I hadn't watched it.

Posted by: BignJames at October 24, 2023 12:53 PM (AwYPR)

283 AP forbids its "journalists" from referring to Hamas terrorists as terrorists.

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"Nazi gas chamber" is such an ugly expression. We could call them "status change stations."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 24, 2023 12:53 PM (FVME7)

284 Question for all Catholics here. Has anything been said from the pulpit regarding Israel? Prayers specifically for Israel?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

Yes. My 82 yr old Irish pastor is very vocal about it. He is conflicted however in that he wants all of Hamas dead but that conflicts with his view of Jesus' statements and wishes.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2023 12:53 PM (h/xVB)

285 279 258 JPost: Squad of female IDF combat troops eliminated nearly 100 Hamas terrorists

https://tinyurl.com/msj73rc2

I hope these ladies shot all their dicks off.

Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2023 12:48 PM (y4EKV)

And shoved them in their terrorist mouths and asses.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:52 PM (ynpvh)

but then what would the pigs eat?

Posted by: Inogame at October 24, 2023 12:53 PM (53oGX)

286 What the fuck is Israel waiting for?

Hollywood has explained to me that generals have battle plans on shelves.

Posted by: DOYLE at October 24, 2023 12:54 PM (Z8Yh2)

287 285 279 258 JPost: Squad of female IDF combat troops eliminated nearly 100 Hamas terrorists

https://tinyurl.com/msj73rc2

I hope these ladies shot all their dicks off.

Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2023 12:48 PM (y4EKV)

And shoved them in their terrorist mouths and asses.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:52 PM (ynpvh)

but then what would the pigs eat?

Posted by: Inogame at October 24, 2023 12:53 PM (53oGX)

Everything. They generally aren't that choosy.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:54 PM (ynpvh)

288 280 The camp Eisenhower, Patton, and Bradley visited was at Ohrduf on April 4, 1945.
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That's in Western Germany. By definition, this was a work camp.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 12:55 PM (naiw2)

289 Because prayers totally ended WWII

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D-Day weather, you have a call holding from a Mr. Eisenhower on line two, please. D-Day weather line two.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 24, 2023 12:55 PM (RDD2k)

290 277 Question for all Catholics here. Has anything been said from the pulpit regarding Israel? Prayers specifically for Israel?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 24, 2023 12:48 PM (N39Ws

Our bishop has put out 2 statements (and yes, we pray every week now) - "Bishop Burbidge offers statement following declaration of war by Israel

I ask the faithful in the Diocese of Arlington and all people of good will to join in prayer for peace following a terrorist attack in Israel. Our hearts are shocked and saddened by the death of hundreds of people, and thousands more who are wounded or dispersed already. It is my hope and prayer that the international community will work together to help ensure a peaceful and just resolution for the good of all. At this time, we also pray that the victims and their families find strength and support. May we join with one voice in asking God to grant eternal rest to the deceased, console those who grieve, and guide political leaders to bring an end to the war without further violence."

Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 12:55 PM (exHjb)

291 Can we stop referring to them as “Hamas terrorists” or "Hamas militants” and use the proper term …
“Hamas Animals”
Posted by: SMOD at October 24, 2023 12:29 PM

Hamanimals.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 24, 2023 12:55 PM (kC9Sh)

292 Wow.

Half the world. Always too many people believe the media too much.
Millions Jacked in.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 24, 2023 12:56 PM (J8LnB)

293 Pontius Pilate:
Joseph, I really don't understand. You're one of the richest men in the region. You've spent a small fortune on a new tomb for you and your family and you want yo give it to this man Jesus?

Joseph: It's just for the weekend!

Always remember and pray for His return.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 12:56 PM (l8w2w)

294 147 Finally! The NBA has an "out non-binary transgender" referee. About damn time!

Um, if that thing is truly non-binary, how will it be able to distinguish between foul/no-foul?

Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2023 12:27 PM (h/xVB)
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By smell of course! Sheesh!
He'll bend over and sniff.

Posted by: Ciampino - Eeeew! Again at October 24, 2023 12:56 PM (qfLjt)

295 These are the people Joe Biden and Co. just awarded $100M and got nothing in return.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 24, 2023 12:56 PM (MeG8a)

296 He is conflicted however in that he wants all of Hamas dead but that conflicts with his view of Jesus' statements and wishes.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2023 12:53 PM (h/xVB)
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NT clearly states one is to protect family. Hamas has demonstrated they want to wipe out Israeli families. There is no conflict with Scripture.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 24, 2023 12:56 PM (z5vMw)

297 Why did hamas take that footage?

Posted by: runner at October 24, 2023 12:57 PM (hht4k)

298 At a rural racetrack this weekend. Israel mentioned during prayers before National Anthem. Lots of Baptists around here though.

Posted by: DOYLE at October 24, 2023 12:57 PM (Z8Yh2)

299 Reminds me of the stat that if you were able to get all the white supremacists in this country in one place, it would hardly fill a small stadium.
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Well, if you gave us more lead time to arrange travel I'm sure we could fill up a larger stadium.

Posted by: the FBI

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What kind of meal per diems we talking?

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 24, 2023 12:57 PM (RDD2k)

300 Hamanimals.
Posted by: Minnfidel at October 24, 2023 12:55 PM (kC9Sh)
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And here I thought a "ham animal" was a pig...Though that describes the animals in Hamas to a certain extent. I hate to disrespect a noble creature like a pig by comparing it to Hamas, though.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 24, 2023 12:57 PM (YIVH2)

301 289 Because prayers totally ended WWII

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D-Day weather, you have a call holding from a Mr. Eisenhower on line two, please. D-Day weather line two.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 24, 2023 12:55 PM (RDD2k)

Dunkirk evac

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:57 PM (ynpvh)

302 301 289 Because prayers totally ended WWII

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D-Day weather, you have a call holding from a Mr. Eisenhower on line two, please. D-Day weather line two.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 24, 2023 12:55 PM (RDD2k)

Dunkirk evac

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:57 PM (ynpvh)

Spanish Armada

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:57 PM (ynpvh)

303 Hamanimals.
Posted by: Minnfidel at October 24, 2023 12:55 PM (kC9Sh)

Dee dee deedeedee!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Lookin' for me wooden leg at October 24, 2023 12:57 PM (xPJvm)

304 What the fuck is Israel waiting for?

Hollywood has explained to me that generals have battle plans on shelves.
Posted by: DOYLE at October

...

One might hope that this PR effort is a reminder to the world of why Israel has to do what it is about to do. And therefore it means they will begin before the ink dries on the articles they are hoping those reporters wrote.

I hope.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 24, 2023 12:57 PM (X7yt5)

305 301
Dunkirk evac
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:57 PM (ynpvh)

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That was the triumph of the British resolve and national character that Britain's ruling class hated so much and actively worked to destroy immediately after the war.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:58 PM (GBKbO)

306 France had tens of millions of resistance operatives fighting the oppressor nazis... or so they said after the liberation. I'm sure Gaza would see some of the same.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 12:40 PM (zhLd

The majority of the French Resistance were commies.

Posted by: Drive by at October 24, 2023 12:58 PM (MNhXM)

307 Regardless of how horrible the attacks by Hamas/Isis were this time, it will be worse next time.

You can almost depend on it. This is the nature of terrorism as a tactic. Raising the level of fear and terror, and make people afraid, and surrender. It is asymetric warfare. They don't have F-16s, Mirages or Migs. They don't have battle tanks. They only have terror, and they will use it again and again.

You can already see the surrender monkeys out there, willing to prostrate themselves to Hamas and their co-terrorists.
So really, terrorism DOES work.

And this is a really sick world.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at October 24, 2023 12:58 PM (vcOmj)

308 To inspire the rest of them.

Posted by: runner at October 24, 2023 12:58 PM (hht4k)

309 I'll tell you another outcome of this: my continued willingness to engage in any further discussion of gun control. I'm done.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 24, 2023 12:59 PM (CwhoI)

310 Washington's retreat from Manhattan (right? Which island was he on?)

Posted by: TexasDan at October 24, 2023 12:59 PM (X7yt5)

311 PS - There is a worldwide declared day of prayer, penance and fasting for peace on Oct 27. This was declared by the Pope this week, but all worldwide Catholic dioceses are taking part.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 12:59 PM (exHjb)

312 239 If Emmer gets it, it's a reality of the current House that we need more Repubs trending our way vs the Uniparty way. It would be dumb to cut our nose off to spite our face and give Dems the power they had in Biden's 1st term, where we were getting absolutely destroyed as a people. The bleeding is slowing, and with McCarthy gone, hopefully that continues. Deciding to shoot ourselves in the foot again by staying home in 2024 is a fool's decision. The better is to primary your own rep (especially if they were one of the 22 against Jordan), even yourself, and push the Repubs more our way b/c the Dems are a lost cause and thinking you'll peel any off from that party ever is a fool's errand.
Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 12:43 PM (exHjb)

The RINO power derives from the knowledge that if any of their ilk win their primary, the base will come home and rally around them to win reelection. The only way this will change is if they have a credible fear that the base would rather have the Dem win than to get more mush from the wimps.

Everyone will suffer in the short term, but if it wakes up the LIVs to vote better next time, then and only then will we get our people in.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 12:59 PM (Am72j)

313 ========

That was the triumph of the British resolve and national character that Britain's ruling class hated so much and actively worked to destroy immediately after the war.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:58 PM (GBKbO)

Paul Joseph Watson has a video out today about how it's racist and inappropriate to fly the Flag of England in England if there are pro-'palestinains' in the area.

Britain is gone.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 12:59 PM (Zz0t1)

314 Donalds, thought it was going to be Byron Donalds.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2023 01:00 PM (VvPil)

315 304-Feels to me like alignment against is building.

Posted by: DOYLE at October 24, 2023 01:00 PM (Z8Yh2)

316 That's even probably inflating it. Even knowing the FBI stat that 12% of the population (online edgelords like to say 13%, but that's an outdated figured because of the open border) commits well over half of the crime gets you tagged as "white supremacist" now.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 24, 2023 12:43 PM (2ocoG)

12% of the overall population is "white supremacist". 99.874% of the "white supremacist" population glows.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:00 PM (zhLdt)

317 D-Day weather, you have a call holding from a Mr. Eisenhower on line two, please. D-Day weather line two.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 24, 2023 12:55 PM (RDD2k)

Dunkirk evac

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:57 PM (ynpvh)

Spanish Armada
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Kamikaze. Japan and England have some very doppelganger histories.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:00 PM (naiw2)

318 General Omar Bradley on seeing Ohrduf, "The smell of death overwhelmed us even before we passed through the stockade. More 3,200 naked, emaciated bodies had been flung into shallow graves. Others lay in the streets where they had fallen. Lice crawled over the yellowed skin of their sharp, bony frames."

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2023 01:00 PM (wRddn)

319 That was the triumph of the British resolve and national character that Britain's ruling class hated so much and actively worked to destroy immediately after the war.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:58 PM (GBKbO)

And also Barry Keoghan in cable knit sweater.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 24, 2023 01:00 PM (CIS44)

320 Why did hamas take that footage?
Posted by: runner

What good is terrorism if you can't use it as a tool of propaganda?

They did it to scare people. And see, it works.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at October 24, 2023 01:00 PM (vcOmj)

321 The only problem Israel should have is finding enough pigs to sew the dead bodies of Gazans into.

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:00 PM (8+ld9)

322 I'm sure it's been mentioned but-

muslims of any stripe calling someone a 'colonizer" and getting all outraged is especially hilariously sad.

The entire basis for islam is violent conquest and colonial subjugation.

A hardy "Go fuck yourself!" should greet any muslim whinging about "colonizers".

Posted by: naturalfake at October 24, 2023 01:00 PM (QzZeQ)

323 Our bishop has put out 2 statements (and yes, we pray every week now) - "Bishop Burbidge offers statement following declaration of war by Israel

I ask the faithful in the Diocese of Arlington and all people of good will to join in prayer for peace following a terrorist attack in Israel. Our hearts are shocked and saddened by the death of hundreds of people, and thousands more who are wounded or dispersed already. It is my hope and prayer that the international community will work together to help ensure a peaceful and just resolution for the good of all. At this time, we also pray that the victims and their families find strength and support. May we join with one voice in asking God to grant eternal rest to the deceased, console those who grieve, and guide political leaders to bring an end to the war without further violence."
Posted by: Nova Local

I never understood how the military could have chaplains, priests & rabbis who are men of peace, send men to kill.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:01 PM (l8w2w)

324 This was declared by the Pope this week, but all worldwide Catholic dioceses are taking part.
Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 12:59 PM (exHjb)

I'm actually surprised by this.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:01 PM (Zz0t1)

325 The RINO power derives from the knowledge that if any of their ilk win their primary, the base will come home and rally around them to win reelection. The only way this will change is if they have a credible fear that the base would rather have the Dem win than to get more mush from the wimps.

Everyone will suffer in the short term, but if it wakes up the LIVs to vote better next time, then and only then will we get our people in.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 12:59 PM (Am72j)

LIVs will never vote better. They aren't voting in the 1st place. Someone is voting for them. So, counting on that plan is again, a disastrous decision. LIVs will NOT change b/c the $20 payment is gonna be there year after year.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 01:02 PM (exHjb)

326 302 Spanish Armada

spanish armada > russian armata

Posted by: anachronda at October 24, 2023 01:02 PM (wd1yU)

327 310 Washington's retreat from Manhattan (right? Which island was he on?)
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Brooklyn Heights, I think.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:02 PM (naiw2)

328 324 This was declared by the Pope this week, but all worldwide Catholic dioceses are taking part.
Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 12:59 PM (exHjb)

I'm actually surprised by this.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:01 PM (Zz0t1)

This is for peace, not for Israeli victory. There's a difference.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:02 PM (Am72j)

329 Joey Mannarino

@JoeyMannarinoUS
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2h
Tom Emmer got 78 votes on the first round.

We're fucked, people.

The next closest one was Mike Johnson with 34 and Byron Donalds right after him with 29.

We are really fucked.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 24, 2023 01:03 PM (TGPs7)

330 This is for peace, not for Israeli victory. There's a difference.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:02 PM (Am72j)

Exactly...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 01:03 PM (bs+z0)

331
I never understood how the military could have chaplains, priests & rabbis who are men of peace, send men to kill.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:01 PM (l8w2w)

God knows there's the requirement for some to no longer exist on this plane. That's why the commandment is actually 'thou shall not commit murder' because murder is wrong. Killing is sometimes necessary.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:03 PM (Zz0t1)

332 Israel's retort should have been swift an viscous.
Every house, every tunnel; only Gazans left alive are those that made across the Suez.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2023 01:03 PM (VvPil)

333 324 This was declared by the Pope this week, but all worldwide Catholic dioceses are taking part.
Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 12:59 PM (exHjb)

I'm actually surprised by this.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:01 PM (Zz0t1)

Catholics have been one of the few taking stands the last decade. I actually like that Emmer seems to be a practicing REAL Catholic. It's his saving grace for me.

He also didn't vote to open the J6 commission, so if he's anti-Trump, he's at least not anti-Trump's voters, so I can work with that...and a true pro-life politician from a farming district, even if it is MN.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 01:03 PM (exHjb)

334 Japan and England have some very doppelganger histories.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:00 PM (naiw2)

Of course, they're both island nations with strong cultures.

A very strong sense of "we're all in this together" used to bind the nations of each one.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 24, 2023 01:03 PM (QzZeQ)

335 Killing a baby with a bomb > Cutting a baby's head off manually

- - - - Democrat Media Establishment
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 12:13 PM (vf0Uk)

Cutting a baby’s head off manually is abortion.
All perfectly OK for Dems - practically a sacrament.

Even better if the baby’s head is still in the mom!

Posted by: Cranky J Anne at October 24, 2023 01:03 PM (/N8T/)

336 Release everything.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2023 01:04 PM (R/m4+)

337 >>Tom Emmer got 78 votes on the first round.

Didn't Jordan get more than double of that?

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:04 PM (8+ld9)

338 I never understood how the military could have chaplains, priests & rabbis who are men of peace, send men to kill.

Because they believe some wars are justified and they want to give spiritual support to the men and women (In the case f the IDF) who are fighting. .They didn't send them to fight. Their countries did or they joined

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 24, 2023 01:04 PM (RSbhh)

339 9 I'll tell you another outcome of this: my continued willingness to engage in any further discussion of gun control. I'm done.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 24, 2023 12:59 PM (CwhoI)

I happened to visit one of the memorials in Rwanda. Since we are talking about atrocities I will add this one; in this church (now memorial) they have a glass display set up with several skulls set up; these skulls show clearly what it's like to be hacked to death by machete.

There are some stairs that go down to a separate part of this display; in it is the body of a woman who was killed by being raped with the pestle of a mortar and pestle. The pestle is still lodged in her pelvis. They have her in a casket because even in the context of an ossuary it's to horrible to look at.

That's my gun control reference point.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 24, 2023 01:04 PM (X7yt5)

340 337 >>Tom Emmer got 78 votes on the first round.

Didn't Jordan get more than double of that?
Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:04 PM (8+ld9)

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I think these are the behind closed door caucus votes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:04 PM (GBKbO)

341 Question for all Catholics here. Has anything been said from the pulpit regarding Israel? Prayers specifically for Israel?

At my parish, we pray for peace in the Ukraine with a Hail Mary. And maybe include "violence everywhere". That is it. This is the best we can do for the Holy Land.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 24, 2023 12:48 PM (N39Ws)

We pray for peace in the Holy Land every week at my parish.

Posted by: Just Lily at October 24, 2023 01:04 PM (vOGME)

342
This is for peace, not for Israeli victory. There's a difference.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:02 PM (Am72j)

True, however, should Hamas and the rest of the terrorist neanderthals prevail, there will be no peace.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:04 PM (Zz0t1)

343 312 The RINO power derives from the knowledge that if any of their ilk win their primary, the base will come home and rally around them to win reelection. The only way this will change is if they have a credible fear that the base would rather have the Dem win than to get more mush from the wimps.

Everyone will suffer in the short term, but if it wakes up the LIVs to vote better next time, then and only then will we get our people in.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 12:59 PM (Am72j)

Unfortunately, I don't think enough of the base is financially secure enough that they're willing to let the Dems (and finally-mask-off Uniparty RINOs) wreck things to the point where they can't pay their bills and put a roof over their children's heads.

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 01:04 PM (sm6Pk)

344 I never understood how the military could have chaplains, priests & rabbis who are men of peace, send men to kill.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:01 PM (l8w2w)

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Think this is an example of and epitomizes the philosophical concept of "The Duality of Man."

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 24, 2023 01:04 PM (HCGKD)

345
Having this kind of video footage of Hamas committing these terrible acts, makes me question why Israel is holding back from going into Gaza and completely ending them permanently.

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 24, 2023 01:04 PM (+oR7L)

346 Sometimes I wonder which side God is on.

Posted by: Major General Gunther Blumentritt, The Longest Day at October 24, 2023 01:05 PM (4I/2K)

347 My church is also conservative. I see Newt Gingrich there regularly.
Posted by: tofer732 at October 24, 2023 12:51 PM (W+1KM)

I'm not sure the second sentence reinforces the first.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:05 PM (zhLdt)

348 I think these are the behind closed door caucus votes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:04 PM (GBKbO)

Correct.. It now goes for a floor vote

Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 01:05 PM (bs+z0)

349 345
Having this kind of video footage of Hamas committing these terrible acts, makes me question why Israel is holding back from going into Gaza and completely ending them permanently.

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 24, 2023 01:04 PM (+oR7L)

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Organization is a difficult thing to accomplish with hundreds of thousands of reservists suddenly showing up in less than a week?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:05 PM (GBKbO)

350 LIVs will never vote better. They aren't voting in the 1st place. Someone is voting for them. So, counting on that plan is again, a disastrous decision. LIVs will NOT change b/c the $20 payment is gonna be there year after year.
Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 01:02 PM (exHjb)

Then, we're truly lost. The only lever we have to make the RINOs follow our will is on Election Day. If they can get past that hurdle, then there is nothing to stop them from changing. They are immune from shaming from the base for the remainder of their terms in office.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:05 PM (Am72j)

351 Question for all Catholics here. Has anything been said from the pulpit regarding Israel? Prayers specifically for Israel?

At my parish, we pray for peace in the Ukraine with a Hail Mary. And maybe include "violence everywhere". That is it. This is the best we can do for the Holy Land.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 24, 2023 12:48 PM (N39Ws)

We pray for peace in the Holy Land every week at my parish.
Posted by: Just Lily at October 24, 2023 01:04 PM (vOGME)

Ours too, Israel specifically, no mention of Palestine (and also Ukraine).

Posted by: LASue at October 24, 2023 01:05 PM (bLe0J)

352 I never understood how the military could have chaplains, priests & rabbis who are men of peace, send men to kill.

Because they believe some wars are justified and they want to give spiritual support to the men and women (In the case f the IDF) who are fighting. .They didn't send them to fight. Their countries did or they joined
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

*Desmond Doss has entered the chat*

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 24, 2023 01:05 PM (CIS44)

353 352 *Desmond Doss has entered the chat*
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 24, 2023 01:05 PM (CIS44)

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Please God, let me save just one more.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:06 PM (GBKbO)

354 >>My church is also conservative. I see Newt Gingrich there regularly.

Does he sit next to Pelosi, or does she sit on his lap?

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:06 PM (8+ld9)

355 God knows there's the requirement for some to no longer exist on this plane. That's why the commandment is actually 'thou shall not commit murder' because murder is wrong. Killing is sometimes necessary.
Posted by: Sponge

I'm all for it. Just seems strange praying for peace when you know there is bloodletting to be done.

Because by the time it's time for the bloodletting, peace didn't work.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:06 PM (l8w2w)

356 My feeling and observations of facts? Things are about to get much much worse.

A free and fair 2024 election? It'll never happen.

We dithered and slept too long. The Israel response to the latest muzzie atrocity is just a microcosm of what's happening to the whole of western civilization.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 24, 2023 01:06 PM (BdMk6)

357 Then, we're truly lost. The only lever we have to make the RINOs follow our will is on Election Day. If they can get past that hurdle, then there is nothing to stop them from changing. They are immune from shaming from the base for the remainder of their terms in office.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:05 PM (Am72j)

No, you primary them out - see Cantor for an example.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 01:07 PM (exHjb)

358 Does he sit next to Pelosi, or does she sit on his lap and wiggle slightly?
Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:06 PM (8+ld9)

Edited for accuracy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:07 PM (Zz0t1)

359 Because they believe some wars are justified and they want to give spiritual support to the men and women (In the case f the IDF) who are fighting. .They didn't send them to fight. Their countries did or they joined
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 24, 2023 01:04 PM (RSbhh)

Concur.

He blesses the boys as they stand in line
The smell of gun grease and the bayonets they shine
He's there to help them all that he can
To make them feel wanted he's a good holy man

Sky pilot, sky pilot
How high can you fly
You'll never, never, never reach the sky...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2023 01:07 PM (R/m4+)

360 Catholics have been one of the few taking stands the last decade. I actually like that Emmer seems to be a practicing REAL Catholic. It's his saving grace for me.

He also didn't vote to open the J6 commission, so if he's anti-Trump, he's at least not anti-Trump's voters, so I can work with that...and a true pro-life politician from a farming district, even if it is MN.
Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 01:03 PM (exHjb)

I was reading Emmer's Wiki entry. I'm ok with everything I read there.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:07 PM (Am72j)

361 Tom Emmer got 78 votes on the first round.

Didn't Jordan get more than double of that?
Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:04 PM (8+ld9)

Who is he? He looks like Pence and Cornyn had a baby,. but since Gaetz backed him (or so I heard), maybe he has a backbone.

Posted by: LASue at October 24, 2023 01:07 PM (bLe0J)

362 Think this is an example of and epitomizes the philosophical concept of "The Duality of Man."
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I think I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man, sir. Pogue Colonel : The what? Private Joker : The duality of man. The Jungian thing, sir.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:07 PM (naiw2)

363 The Judicial Establishment in the USA referred to J6 political protestors as insurrectionists and terrorists. You are darn right every single Hamas sympathizer, including Gaza civilians, should be called terrorists. They WANT to be called terrorists. They NEED to be called terrorists. Sure, the college professors go to their cocktail parties and talk about Boycott, Sanction, Divest.....but they mean Terrorism and Nazism.

Posted by: william ferrin at October 24, 2023 01:08 PM (SSOsO)

364 Release everything.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2023 01:04 PM (R/m4+)

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Someone once gave me some good advice when I was young:

"NEVER be afraid of the truth."

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 24, 2023 01:08 PM (HCGKD)

365 "Please God, let me save just one more."

I pretty sure this upsets me because I see what a shit I am.

At least I recognize the better man.

Posted by: DOYLE at October 24, 2023 01:08 PM (Z8Yh2)

366 He is conflicted however in that he wants all of Hamas dead but that conflicts with his view of Jesus' statements and wishes.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 24, 2023 12:53 PM (h/xVB)
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NT clearly states one is to protect family. Hamas has demonstrated they want to wipe out Israeli families. There is no conflict with Scripture.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 24, 2023 12:56 PM (z5vMw)

I assume it's because the pastor isn't Israeli. He doesn't have to protect his family and, therefore, should not wish everyone killed. I suspect he'll be forgiven.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:08 PM (zhLdt)

367
Because by the time it's time for the bloodletting, peace didn't work.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:06 PM (l8w2w)

True. The prayers for peace, to me anyway, are more for the actions to be just, true and quick so peace has chance to return quickly. Evil must be defeated.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:09 PM (Zz0t1)

368 >>I was reading Emmer's Wiki entry. I'm ok with everything I read there.

I thought he was the guy who was for eliminating the Electoral College?

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:09 PM (8+ld9)

369 Looks like I picked a bad time to take a coffee break. This is horrific.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 24, 2023 01:09 PM (DRSnL)

370 303 Hamanimals.
Posted by: Minnfidel at October 24, 2023 12:55 PM (kC9Sh)

Dee dee deedeedee!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Lookin' for me wooden leg at October 24, 2023 12:57 PM (xPJvm)

Sounds like a brand of Halal yogurt.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:09 PM (ynpvh)

371 Think this is an example of and epitomizes the philosophical concept of "The Duality of Man."
Posted by: ShainS

You write "Born to Kill" on your helmet, but you wear a peace button. What's that supposed to be, some kind of sick joke?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:09 PM (l8w2w)

372 357 Then, we're truly lost. The only lever we have to make the RINOs follow our will is on Election Day. If they can get past that hurdle, then there is nothing to stop them from changing. They are immune from shaming from the base for the remainder of their terms in office.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:05 PM (Am72j)

No, you primary them out - see Cantor for an example.
Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 01:07 PM (exHjb)

Agreed on the primary part. Here's a scenario I described to a friend of mine:

Mitch McConnell runs for another term at KY Senator (by some weird turn of Fate). He wins the primary, because McConnell. What do you do next?

I'd say that a KY Dem Senator is better than a RINO leader McConnell.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:10 PM (Am72j)

373 Probably get to see nukes before I die.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 24, 2023 01:10 PM (J8LnB)

374 Release everything.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy

I wouldn't watch. As a former prosecutor, I've already seen much I wish I hadn't. I also worry about radicals and sickos whacking off to it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 24, 2023 01:10 PM (FVME7)

375 I think I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man, sir. Pogue Colonel : The what? Private Joker : The duality of man. The Jungian thing, sir.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:07 PM (naiw2)

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Heh. Haven't seen that film in decades; need to remedy that.

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 24, 2023 01:10 PM (HCGKD)

376
Who is he? He looks like Pence and Cornyn had a baby,. but since Gaetz backed him (or so I heard), maybe he has a backbone.
Posted by: LASue at October 24, 2023 01:07 PM (bLe0J)

I've seen more than one post that says he's got ties and some funding from Soros organizations.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:10 PM (Zz0t1)

377 371 You write "Born to Kill" on your helmet, but you wear a peace button. What's that supposed to be, some kind of sick joke?
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:09 PM (l8w2w)

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Still, it's better than Platoon.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:10 PM (GBKbO)

378 Garrett, how do we know he didn't edit his wiki account?

Posted by: Jaimo at October 24, 2023 01:10 PM (DBrN4)

379 Hamanimals.
Posted by: Minnfidel at October 24, 2023 12:55 PM (kC9Sh)

Dee dee deedeedee!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Lookin' for me wooden leg at October 24, 2023 12:57 PM (xPJvm)

Sounds like a brand of Halal yogurt.
Posted by: jim

Sounds like underwear for four year olds.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:10 PM (l8w2w)

380 305 301
Dunkirk evac
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 12:57 PM (ynpvh)

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That was the triumph of the British resolve and national character that Britain's ruling class hated so much and actively worked to destroy immediately after the war.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 12:58 PM (GBKbO)

The Brits didn't control the weather that made it possible for the ships to evacuate with troops without being sunk by the Germans.
The Jews? Maybe, but not the Brits.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:10 PM (ynpvh)

381 372 Mitch McConnell runs for another term at KY Senator (by some weird turn of Fate). He wins the primary, because McConnell. What do you do next?

I'd say that a KY Dem Senator is better than a RINO leader McConnell.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:10 PM (Am72j)

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I was all for voting for Dan Crenshaw's Democrat opponent in TX-1 last year.

Because, really, what's the difference?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:10 PM (GBKbO)

382 Looks like I picked a bad time to take a coffee break. This is horrific.
Posted by: Jordan61 at October 24, 2023 01:09 PM (DRSnL)

It is, but I think the video should be pinned to the top of every social media page on Earth so the WORLD can see what just happened and who we're actually dealing with here.

You support a 'palestinian,' this is what you're going all in on. Prepare for consequence.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:11 PM (Zz0t1)

383 380 The Jews? Maybe, but not the Brits.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:10 PM (ynpvh)

It was important enough that the Brits got to borrow the keys to the machine.

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 01:11 PM (sm6Pk)

384 Nood. Oregon.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:11 PM (zhLdt)

385 Mitch McConnell runs for another term at KY Senator (by some weird turn of Fate). He wins the primary, because McConnell. What do you do next?

I'd say that a KY Dem Senator is better than a RINO leader McConnell.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:10 PM (Am72j)

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I was all for voting for Dan Crenshaw's Democrat opponent in TX-1 last year.

Because, really, what's the difference?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:10 PM (GBKbO)

Iv'e voted agianst Tom Cole in the last 5 primaries and abstained in the general. I think it's tiime to start voting against him in the general too.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 24, 2023 01:12 PM (CIS44)

386 I was all for voting for Dan Crenshaw's Democrat opponent in TX-1 last year.

Because, really, what's the difference?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:10 PM (GBKbO)

As we see - everything. Dems vote lock step if you give them a one vote majority. Repubs don't.

Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 01:12 PM (exHjb)

387 I was delighted that Tropic Thunder made fun of Platoon.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 24, 2023 01:13 PM (44ww/)

388 new thread
i was first so i am here to do dew diligentz

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:13 PM (B1FKF)

389 *Desmond Doss has entered the chat*
Posted by: BruceWayne

Sa-lute!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:13 PM (l8w2w)

390 That reminds me, should track down a copy of Father Forgy's book about the attack on Pearl Harbor aboard the heavy cruiser USS New Orleans. It also covers the ship's combat career until the torpedo took her bow and No. 1 turret off.

Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition was the book's title IIRC.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2023 01:13 PM (wRddn)

391 I never understood how the military could have chaplains, priests & rabbis who are men of peace, send men to kill.
Posted by: rickb223
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Those members of the chaplaincy that you mention don't send anyone anywhere. They are, in the broadest sense, support troops. I don't think it would be much less logical to ask how the medical people could be involved.

But, I may have misinterpreted the comment. Is the question about the military, or about the chaplains?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 24, 2023 01:13 PM (XeU6L)

392
I'm all for it. Just seems strange praying for peace when you know there is bloodletting to be done.

Because by the time it's time for the bloodletting, peace didn't work.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:06 PM (l8w2w)

I ask God for peace and let Him decide how that can be best accomplished.

If He decides a 10 Richter Scale earthquake in Gaza followed by a giant cleansing tsunami to wash the rubble out to sea before the IDF gets to the ground invasion portion of the war, Blessed be the Name of the Lord.

But , in any case, I ask for true peace.

Posted by: Just Lily at October 24, 2023 01:14 PM (vOGME)

393 386 As we see - everything. Dems vote lock step if you give them a one vote majority. Repubs don't.
Posted by: Nova Local at October 24, 2023 01:12 PM (exHjb)

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The only difference between this Congress and a Democrat Congress is that we get failure theater.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:14 PM (GBKbO)

394 Still, it's better than Platoon.
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Platoon did an excellent job re-enacting a NVA night attack. That was perfectly done.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:14 PM (naiw2)

395 Ours too, Israel specifically, no mention of Palestine (and also Ukraine).
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Fuck that

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JD Vance circulates memo calling for Israel and Ukraine aid to be split up

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 24, 2023 01:14 PM (FVME7)

396 394 Still, it's better than Platoon.
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Platoon did an excellent job re-enacting a NVA night attack. That was perfectly done.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:14 PM (naiw2)

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The physical reality of life in Vietnam never felt less than 100% authentic. It's just chock full of great little details.

The Tom Berenger character felt like a caricature of a CO that Oliver Stone had and wanted to get revenge on in movie form.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:17 PM (GBKbO)

397 The RINOs don’t care if they are in power or not.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (zwBSG)

398 I wouldn't worry about which fall guy will sign off on the US default, or who will be running for pres from jail a year from now, once we find out which Midwest nations have nukes.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (lK3kz)

399 278 @260. Nothing specific about the war in Israel, just generalities about peace.

Because prayers totally ended WWII
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 24, 2023 12:51 PM

Padre, I need a fair weather prayer. Just 24 hours of clear weather, and I'll knock Jerry on his ass!

Posted by: General George Patton at October 24, 2023 01:29 PM (BN6WR)

400 So, it looks like Mahmoud the Terrorist and Hunter the Bribe-filter Nepot both use the same messaging app.

I have a slogan for them:

WhatsApp: The Choice of Terrorists and democRats (BIRM) Worldwide

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Arik at October 24, 2023 01:30 PM (W4FW+)

401 398 I wouldn't worry about which fall guy will sign off on the US default, or who will be running for pres from jail a year from now, once we find out which Midwest nations have nukes.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM

?!

Posted by: Giving Kansas unexpected, suspicious side-eye at October 24, 2023 01:31 PM (BN6WR)

402 Ace-

The "wine mom" you cited is actually a normie who it appears excerpted that passage due to its absurdity.

Posted by: Mountain Walker at October 24, 2023 01:35 PM (/tm+P)

403 nic update

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 24, 2023 02:04 PM (GBKbO)

404
Sometimes I wonder which side God is on.

Posted by: Major General Gunther Blumentritt, The Longest Day at October 24, 2023

I prefer to think that God tests us to see which side *we* are on. That we knowingly decided to participate in this life, that despite all the travails of life, we could still be good and righteous and never take his name in vain.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 24, 2023 02:25 PM (enJYY)

405 Foreign press, huh? They see such a thing as pron.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 24, 2023 02:31 PM (8sMut)

406 Thіs info is priceless. When can I find օut
more?

Posted by: herbivore at October 24, 2023 03:50 PM (iakUh)

407 Hamas are Terrorists Liberal Pea-Brains not the NRA

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at October 24, 2023 04:43 PM (wGqjj)

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