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Oregon Becomes The Latest Blue State to Suspend All Tests of English and Math Proficiency

Back in March, New York announced it would change what is defined as "proficiency" in math and reading.

They would define deviancy down. Again.

They damaged students forever, and students will never recover -- New York calls this "the new normal" -- so they're just going to lower proficiency down to near-retard levels and give everyone their Participation Trophy and "social advancement." That's the euphemism for passing students who are actually failures and should be held back just to keep them in their social group (and to keep parents from noticing that "educators" are failing to educate).



New York will change what it takes for students to reach "proficiency" on state math and English language arts tests, calling last year's lower scores the "new normal."

A scoring committee that reports to the Board of Regents said Monday that they must take into account the results of last year's tests for students in grades three through eight to determine whether schools are showing improvement from year to year. On Thursday, the committee wanted to clarify that they must also reset scores because the tests will have new performance standards.

Last year some schools posted shocking results -- in Schenectady, no eighth grader who took the math test scored as proficient. And the scores for the third through eighth grade tests throughout the state were much lower in 2022 than in 2019, a result no doubt of the absence of in-person learning during the first year and beyond of the COVID-19 pandemic.

...

That's where last year's scores matter.

"Yes, there's learning loss between 2019 and 2022, but in some ways we don't want to keep going backwards," Perie said. "We're at this new normal. So for New York we are saying the new baseline is 2022."

The committee is resetting the lowest scores -- called cut scores -- for each achievement level on this spring's new ELA (English language arts) and math tests.

"Right now we're setting new cut scores for 2023. This is the baseline moving forward," Perie said.

Over the summer the committee will do the same for the U.S. history Regents exam, with the change taking effect in 2024.

Some teachers have been pressing for tests to be "re-normed" so that students can pass at a lower level than in previous years, reflecting their learning loss.

But the executive director of the Alliance for Quality Education said the whole idea of changing the minimum score needed to be considered proficient diminishes people's confidence in the tests.

"I think that just speaks to the politics of test scores and why so many families have been joining the opt-out movement," Executive Director Jasmine Gripper said in an interview Wednesday.

...

Gripper agreed that parents should be told if their students are struggling, but said the state testing comes with big consequences: Schools with poor scores can be labeled as failing and placed in receivership.

"It destabilizes the school," she said. "The most senior staff tend to leave with their expertise."

And that's what it's all about -- teachers protecting themselves from their education-destroying campaign to give themselves all vacations during covid. If students keep showing low scores, their schools will be put into receivership, teachers will be fired, and students will be allowed (I think) to seek alternative schooling.

And we can't have that.

So we'll just change the scores and give the teachers Educator of the Year awards.

Teachers are scrambling to find alternatives to testing what students actually know -- alternatives to testing what teachers have actually taught.


She suggested adaptive tests, which offer easier or harder questions based on what the student gets right, as well as alternatives to testing.

"So you don't put a test in front of a student and completely demoralize them," she said, adding, "We're looking at new ways to measure what students know. The idea that there's more to a student than that standardized test."

Again, this is no about protecting students. It is, as always, about protecting failing union teachers.

And now Oregon has decided to go New York one better, and simply end proficiency testing altogether. Claiming it "harms students of color."

Is there any mark of excellence or any field of rigor we will be allowed to retain? Will we just destroy all standards and end all competitive fields because they "harm students of color"?

At what point do the "students of color" have to conform to general standards of achievement? Or will the standards of achievement always have to conform to "students of color's" abilities?


High schoolers in Oregon won't need to demonstrate basic competency in reading, writing or math in order to graduate for at least five more years because, according to education officials, such requirements are unnecessary and disproportionately harm students of color.

"At some point ... our diploma is going to end up looking a lot more like a participation prize than an actual certificate that shows that someone actually is prepared to go pursue their best future," former Oregon gubernatorial candidate Christine Drazan told Fox News.


The essential skills requirement has been on pause since the coronavirus pandemic, and last week the Oregon State Board of Education voted unanimously to continue suspending the graduation requirement through the 2027-2028 school year.

Under the requirement, 11th graders had to demonstrate competence in essential subjects through a standardized test or work samples. Students who failed to meet expectations were required to take extra math and writing classes in their senior year -- thus missing an elective class -- in order to graduate.

Oh My God -- they weren't even being blocked from graduating. They were only being demanded to do extra work to correct the gaps in their abilities.

You know -- like schools are supposed to do!

But that's too much to demand of "students of color."


Board members said the standards were unnecessary and harmed marginalized students since higher rates of students of color, students with disabilities and students learning English as a second language ended up having to take the extra step to prove they deserved a diploma, The Oregonian reported.

Hundreds of people submitted public comments opposing the move and urging the board to reinstate the standards. Many of the comments were generated from a call to action from Drazan's advocacy group, A New Direction Oregon.

Board Chair Guadalupe Martinez Zapata previously described the opposition as a "campaign of misinformation" and "artistic quality mental acrobatics."

Check out this word-salad of excuses and accusations from "Guadalupe Martinez Zapata:"


"If only they weren't automatically discredited by the myopic analysis and bigotry that follows them," Martinez Zapata said in a late September meeting, adding that "rhetoric about cultural and social norms being the underlying reason for underperformance on assessments by systemically marginalized students" was reminiscent of "racial superiority arguments."

Wow. She's straight-up saying that it's racist to expect that "students of color" can achieve proficiency in basic skills.

So who are the real racists here?

Simple reply:


"It is not bigoted, it is not racist to want your student to be able to actually learn," said Drazan, who ran as a Republican for governor in Oregon last year, losing to Democrat Tina Kotek by less than 4% of the vote.

That's just white supremacy, straight-up.

[Drazan] argued Oregon is chipping away at standards across the board, with state education officials mulling "equity grading" in lieu of the traditional A to F scale.

"They are now moving forward with an agenda that says if you cheat, you can't be flunked. If you don't show up, you don't get a zero," she said. "They're not going to have homework that they grade because having homework somehow they view as being inequitable."

"Equity grading."


They need to hide from the public exactly how much blue governments and their teachers union shock troops damaged children.

So just stop collecting the evidence.

If you give students proficiency exams, then twice a year you will have big stories about how you have stunted children's learning forever, irreparably.

If you just stop testing altogether, you just have one week of bad press. And you barely have that -- God knows the leftwing media which propagandized for school closures won't make a fuss!

Advantage: Just cancelling all testing for students.

Meanwhile, California has banned suspending students for "willful defiance" -- being intentionally disruptive and refusing to stop when a teacher demands it -- hoping that this will keep intentional disruptive students from dropping out.

Because we want them in class keeping all other students from learning, of course.

And the reason for tolerating intentional disruption...?

Why, because punishing it harms students of color, of course!

Gov. Gavin Newsom on Sunday signed a bill that will ban "willful defiance" suspensions for middle and high school students who demonstrate bad behavior, including breaking the dress code, talking back to a teacher or using their phone in class.

The legislation Newsom signed into law, SB 274, also will prohibit the suspension and expulsion of students due to tardiness or truancy. Educators can still suspend students for more severe actions, such as physical violence, possession or use of drugs, theft or bullying.

California already bans these suspensions permanently for students in kindergarten through fifth grade, and the new law expands the policy to middle and high schools.


Supporters of the bill say Black and Latino students are disproportionately affected by these suspensions. Research shows that these students are often the ones who suffer a reduced loss of learning and experience higher drop-out rates.

And yet teachers demanded that the schools close, causing these very students, who were already behind their peers, to suffer the greatest learning loss of all.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:11 PM




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1 first?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:11 PM (B1FKF)

2 Yo.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at October 24, 2023 01:11 PM (DTX3h)

3 That'll help the uneducated population so very, very much.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:11 PM (zhLdt)

4 i'll go and noodle

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:11 PM (B1FKF)

5 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:12 PM (Zz0t1)

6 Derp.

Posted by: wth at October 24, 2023 01:12 PM (v0R5T)

7 I wonder how the roughly 70% of Asian voters who support the Democrat Party see this turn of events...

Still, better than voting Republican. Republicans hate the gays.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:12 PM (GBKbO)

8 Eastern Oregon and Eastern Washington need to secede before their brains become mush like the rest of the state.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 24, 2023 01:12 PM (TGPs7)

9
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Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 24, 2023 01:13 PM (TGPs7)

10 >>"If only they weren't automatically discredited by the myopic analysis and bigotry that follows them," Martinez Zapata said in a late September meeting, adding that "rhetoric about cultural and social norms being the underlying reason for underperformance on assessments by systemically marginalized students" was reminiscent of "racial superiority arguments."


'It's like a Word Salad...only, BIGGEER.'

Posted by: Elaine Benes at October 24, 2023 01:13 PM (8+ld9)

11 And yet teachers demanded that the schools close, causing these very students, who were already behind their peers, to suffer the greatest learning loss of all.

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Maybe the problem is, at its core, that we have government funded schools in the first place?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:13 PM (GBKbO)

12 Why have school at all?

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 24, 2023 01:14 PM (MeG8a)

13 Dummer and Dummer.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 24, 2023 01:14 PM (2ShPH)

14 I high school graduate!

Posted by: 75-IQ Hamas "refugee" at October 24, 2023 01:14 PM (AUkrG)

15 The soft bigotry of low expectations.

Posted by: Mickey Morgan at October 24, 2023 01:14 PM (oxDA9)

16 I'd argue they're playing to the lowest common denimonator, but I don't think they'd understand the premise.

Posted by: Flyguy at October 24, 2023 01:14 PM (OYxA4)

17 The stupid are easier to control.

We were discussing the muslham countries last week. The average IQ in Gaza is something like 65, or was it 85. No matter. That's barely functionally illiterate.

Liberal governments want ignorant people so they become completely dependent on their 'intellectual betters' who know more.

The only inaccuracy in Idiocracy was that elections would happen and professional wrestlers would win them.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:14 PM (Zz0t1)

18 Education is White Supremacy

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:14 PM (xcxpd)

19 They damaged students forever, and students will never recover -- New York calls this "the new normal" -- so they're just going to lower proficiency down to near-retard levels and give everyone their Participation Trophy and "social advancement."
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The new normal is the same as the old awful.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:14 PM (d04cU)

20 3 That'll help the uneducated population so very, very much.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:11 PM (zhLdt)

There needs to be some legitimate solution for getting those with lower IQs caught up at Math to at least _some_ extent.

I just have no idea how you feasibly do it.

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 01:15 PM (sm6Pk)

21 18 Education is White Supremacy
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:14 PM (xcxpd)

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I'm really curious how this is all going to play out over the next 20 years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:15 PM (GBKbO)

22 This is where one of those King of the Hill jokes where Bobby is holding up the sign and the teacher (principal?) tells him "if those kids could read they'd be very upset"

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 24, 2023 01:15 PM (RDD2k)

23 So blacks, et al, are too stupid to succeed, Oregon?


So, if I am an employer in Oregon and the state is telling me that then I can legally not hire them for a job because they are too stupid to learn the job? Good to know.



Posted by: Archer at October 24, 2023 01:15 PM (gmo/4)

24 And that's what it's all about -- teachers protecting themselves from their education-destroying campaign to give themselves all vacations during covid. If students keep showing low scores, their schools will be put into receivership, teachers will be fired, and students will be allowed (I think) to seek alternative schooling.
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That thought is like showing garlic, a cross and holy water to a vampire at the same time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:16 PM (d04cU)

25 Is there any mark of excellence or any field of rigor we will be allowed to retain? Will we just destroy all standards and end all competitive fields because they "harm students of color"?

No and yes. The transition of Idiocracy into a documentary will not be deferred.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at October 24, 2023 01:16 PM (DTX3h)

26 "Proficiency Achieved!"--Washington State

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:16 PM (ynpvh)

27 Retarded is the new normal; get used to it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:16 PM (ynpvh)

28 Universal voucher system now.

If they're not even tracking performance of kids in public schools, they can't say with a straight face that homeschooled kids would perform worse.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 24, 2023 01:17 PM (fKIdX)

29 Still, better than voting Republican. Republicans hate the gays.

I don't think that Asian voters are particularly energized by LBGT issues. In my neck of the woods there is a woman running for State Government who left Taiwan as a single mother and came here with two children. She helped to start a charter school, and her ad on not wanting to co-parent with the state has given her some traction across various demographics.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 24, 2023 01:17 PM (RSbhh)

30 Education is White Supremacy

--

It really is.

I'm not saying that jokingly, either. Knowing that "white supremacy" is their codeword for Western Civilization, it's absolutely true.

It has very little to do with skin color, but everything to do with culture. Which, sadly, tends to track pretty closely with what skin color people identify with.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 24, 2023 01:17 PM (RDD2k)

31 When we hit up the FBI Crime Stats, we see that there is a specific population that is the MOST Dangerous to the entirety of the remaining populace...

When we hit up the Incarceration Rates, we find that this SAME population is also the highest in incarceration.

Hasn't changed their status as the Most Dangerous, though.

Noticing this, however, is Super Fucking Racist. Apparently.

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:17 PM (8+ld9)

32 Stop abusing students of color!

Close the government skools before more students of color are harmed or at least ban them from these institutions of mass abuse.

The horror, the horror...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2023 01:17 PM (R/m4+)

33 Oregon Becomes The Latest Blue State to Suspend All Tests of English and Math Proficiency
Back in March, New York announced it would change what is defined as "proficiency" in math and reading.

They would define deviancy down. Again.

They damaged students forever, and students will never recover -- New York calls this "the new normal" -- so they're just going to lower proficiency down to near-retard levels



The Palestinian Option.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:17 PM (l8w2w)

34 23 So blacks, et al, are too stupid to succeed, Oregon?
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Oddly, Oregon has very few blacks. Minoritarian Government is whacked.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:17 PM (naiw2)

35 Conservatives: Public schools are houses of horror and teachers are blue-haired perverts and groomers with nothing but perversion on their minds. Public schools should be forced out of business and the entire education system gutted.

Also Conservatives: It was a great sin to shut down schools during covid because kids were deprived of valuable learning. Schools should be open open open so kids can learn.

Pick a side, people.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 24, 2023 01:18 PM (iFTx/)

36 "They damaged students forever, and students will never recover -- New York calls this "the new normal" -- so they're just going to lower proficiency down to near-retard levels and give everyone their Participation Trophy and "social advancement." That's the euphemism for passing students who are actually failures and should be held back just to keep them in their social group (and to keep parents from noticing that "educators" are failing to educate)."

I went to Bronx Science. There's talk of eliminating the entrance exams, because 'equity'. That will ruin the school, if that actually happens.

New Yorkers really don't want nice things.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:18 PM (Am72j)

37 26 "Proficiency Achieved!"--Washington State

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:16 PM (ynpvh)

Um, S/B Oregon...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:18 PM (ynpvh)

38 21 18 Education is White Supremacy
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:14 PM (xcxpd)

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I'm really curious how this is all going to play out over the next 20 years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:15 PM (GBKbO)

It won't be as funny as Mike Judge made it look.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:18 PM (xcxpd)

39 First Rule of Social Engineering - its easier to level down than level up. Brave New World coming your way. Enjoy.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (naiw2)

40 34 23 So blacks, et al, are too stupid to succeed, Oregon?
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Oddly, Oregon has very few blacks. Minoritarian Government is whacked.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:17 PM (naiw2)

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A government worrying about the treatment of 3% of its population is the equivalent of it wasting time on climate change.

It means that the government doesn't want to do anything material as it burns through billions of dollars of taxpayer cash for its own ends.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (GBKbO)

41 Another achievement unlocked in the Idiocracy game.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (CwhoI)

42 Again, this is no about protecting students. It is, as always, about protecting failing union teachers.
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It's about more than that. That is certainly a part of it. It is at least as much about retaining access to children, and keeping those children *away* from the undue influence of their parents.

Children belong to the state, and *must* remain in school, no matter what. It isn't about education, it is about ownership and control.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (d04cU)

43 Elections matter as well as messaging.

These are DEMOCRAT policies.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (NpAcC)

44 38 It won't be as funny as Mike Judge made it look.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:18 PM (xcxpd)

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Supposedly unpopular opinion:

Idiocracy isn't very funny.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (GBKbO)

45 Oregon schools, to students:

Embrace your ignorance

Posted by: DB - at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (geLO8)

46 69 is now a B+

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (4I/2K)

47 35 Conservatives: Public schools are houses of horror and teachers are blue-haired perverts and groomers with nothing but perversion on their minds. Public schools should be forced out of business and the entire education system gutted.

Also Conservatives: It was a great sin to shut down schools during covid because kids were deprived of valuable learning. Schools should be open open open so kids can learn.

Pick a side, people.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 24, 2023 01:18 PM (iFTx/)

Homeschooling, if you can do it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (ynpvh)

48 35 Conservatives: Public schools are houses of horror and teachers are blue-haired perverts and groomers with nothing but perversion on their minds. Public schools should be forced out of business and the entire education system gutted.

Also Conservatives: It was a great sin to shut down schools during covid because kids were deprived of valuable learning. Schools should be open open open so kids can learn.

Pick a side, people.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 24, 2023 01:18 PM (iFTx/)

We can hate AND mock public schools.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (xcxpd)

49 If a student can distinguish between numbers and letters, he deserves a diploma!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (FVME7)

50 "At some point ... our diploma is going to end up looking a lot more like a participation prize than an actual certificate that shows that someone actually is prepared to go pursue their best future," former Oregon gubernatorial candidate Christine Drazan told Fox News.
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That point has come and gone.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (d04cU)

51 I see school choice as an even bigger vote getter among the Americans. The imports vary by flavor.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:20 PM (naiw2)

52
Pick a side, people.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 24, 2023 01:18 PM (iFTx/)



Why? Both are actually correct.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:20 PM (Zz0t1)

53 Test for IQ. Put the dumb ones in with the retarded.

Did the short bus get the axe?


Posted by: DOYLE at October 24, 2023 01:20 PM (Z8Yh2)

54 46 69 is now a B+
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (4I/2K)

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Dude!

That's the number that I was just thinking of!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:20 PM (GBKbO)

55 I recently saw a comedy skit where the basis was a handful of Generation Z kids inside one of those Escape Rooms. To get out they had to do really simple and everyday tasks... (read the time on a clock, put a fitted sheet on the bed, make a piece of toast in a toaster)....and, obviously, the joke was they couldn't do it. They didn't recognize a wall clock, they always sleep on the sofa, they didn't know what a toaster was etc.

It was sad and accurate and maybe a little amusing. Especially when a baby boomer plows throw the drywall shoulder first from the other side and told them they were taking to long.

Posted by: Orson at October 24, 2023 01:20 PM (dIske)

56 Enjoy your indoor plumbing, electricity, and other "niceties" of Western Civilization while you can. Keeping these things operating is going to get a lot harder in the future.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at October 24, 2023 01:20 PM (ntk8v)

57 41 Another achievement unlocked in the Idiocracy game.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (CwhoI)

It's a game? But I don't want to play...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:20 PM (ynpvh)

58 Board members said the standards were unnecessary and harmed marginalized students since higher rates of students of color, students with disabilities and students learning English as a second language ended up having to take the extra step to prove they deserved a diploma, The Oregonian reported.
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"To obtain a diploma, students have to demonstrate that they deserve a diploma. That is unfair!"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:20 PM (d04cU)

59 And the reason for tolerating intentional disruption...?

Federal funding is based on butts in seats. Honestly, I don't understand why they don't just make up a number. They're fine with doing that during elections.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:20 PM (zhLdt)

60 maybe someday black people will realize that the dems and libs hate them and want them to be poor. revolutions need cannon fodder, even when a lot of them ain't sure who their fodder is

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:20 PM (B1FKF)

61 44 38 It won't be as funny as Mike Judge made it look.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:18 PM (xcxpd)

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Supposedly unpopular opinion:

Idiocracy isn't very funny.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (GBKbO)

And neither was Office Space.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:20 PM (Am72j)

62 44 38 It won't be as funny as Mike Judge made it look.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:18 PM (xcxpd)

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Supposedly unpopular opinion:

Idiocracy isn't very funny.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (GBKbO)

It hits a little too close to home at this point.

I literally want Macho Comacho for President.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:20 PM (xcxpd)

63 One of the results of No Child Left Behind was allowing students in our district to continue to re-take the test until you passed. And not a different test. The exact same test. It used to be that if you were sick on the day of test, when you came back, you had to take a different test than what the rest of the class took.

Posted by: Turn 2 at October 24, 2023 01:21 PM (JfxgE)

64 "If only they weren't automatically discredited by the myopic analysis and bigotry that follows them," Martinez Zapata said in a late September meeting, adding that "rhetoric about cultural and social norms being the underlying reason for underperformance on assessments by systemically marginalized students" was reminiscent of "racial superiority arguments."
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Authentic academic gibberish can't hide the meaning.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:21 PM (d04cU)

65 Supposedly unpopular opinion:

Idiocracy isn't very funny.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (GBKbO)


It's not funny "ha, ha" more like funny "heh."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 24, 2023 01:21 PM (fKIdX)

66 61 And neither was Office Space.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:20 PM (Am72j)

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Office Space at least had Milton and his red stapler.

I haven't seen that in forever...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:21 PM (GBKbO)

67 Noticing this, however, is Super Fucking Racist. Apparently.
Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:17 PM (8+ld9)
........

Not if you call them "oddly familiar looking" when you ID them to the police.

Posted by: wth at October 24, 2023 01:21 PM (v0R5T)

68 46 69 is now a B+

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 24, 2023 01:19 PM (4I/2K)

Anal is an A+--Gays

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:21 PM (ynpvh)

69
A government worrying about the treatment of 3% of its population is the equivalent of it wasting time on climate change.

It means that the government doesn't want to do anything material as it burns through billions of dollars of taxpayer cash for its own ends.
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So, your saying, this is a dodge? Our leaders are incompetent or evil. Hard choices.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:22 PM (naiw2)

70 Lack of standardized testing means bad/woke teachers won't be held accountable.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at October 24, 2023 01:22 PM (qUkBO)

71 >>>Oregon Becomes The Latest Blue State to Suspend All Tests of English and Math Proficiency

Orrigone?

Posted by: m at October 24, 2023 01:22 PM (Dz9Qm)

72 Conservatives: Public schools are houses of horror and teachers are blue-haired perverts and groomers with nothing but perversion on their minds. Public schools should be forced out of business and the entire education system gutted.

Also Conservatives: It was a great sin to shut down schools during covid because kids were deprived of valuable learning. Schools should be open open open so kids can learn.

Pick a side, people.

Posted by: Elric Blade

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?

Those two are the same thing.

Schools should be operated on the lowest possible level, with full transparency and control of and by the parents working with the school board.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 24, 2023 01:22 PM (RDD2k)

73 @23

>>So blacks, et al, are too stupid to succeed, Oregon?

There was a time that blacks had higher marital rates than whites and were nearly on par education wise with most rural whites, then FDR, Wilson and LBJ and the Great Society fixed that glitch.

When you think of all of the bad aspects of American History, you can always find a Democrat or alternatively, Pre-Switched Republicans.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2023 01:22 PM (rc3Z7)

74 I wonder how the roughly 70% of Asian voters who support the Democrat Party see this turn of events...

Still, better than voting Republican. Republicans hate the gays.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:12 PM (GBKbO)


Asians don't give a shit about black/brown people. They'll reason that their kids are still learning and if someone else's kids aren't... who cares. And they'll have this attitude because they haven't mentally processed that they've saddled their children with having to pay for this underclass for their entire lives.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:23 PM (zhLdt)

75 69 So, your saying, this is a dodge? Our leaders are incompetent or evil. Hard choices.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:22 PM (naiw2)

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They are incompetent at doing the actual, described work of government while spending all of their time working out how to steal more money while pitting the population against itself so that they can retain power and steal more money.

So, really, we should be building them statues.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:23 PM (GBKbO)

76 They need to hide from the public exactly how much blue governments and their teachers union shock troops damaged children.
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Yes, because it's an actual risk. Yes, some families out there - a lot of them - simply don't care about education. They don't matter to this point. *All* of the rest do care about it, and it is universal. Black mothers generally want their kids in good schools. Poor mothers. Rich mothers. Asian mothers. It's across the board. There is a reason why school choice measures - whatever they are - have a high degree of support among voters, and why they are blocked at every turn.

This is one of the very few things that crosses major demographic lines in terms of support.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:23 PM (d04cU)

77 just FYI my kids all went to private Catholic prep schools. and they all say now - in college of all things! - is the first time they were actually taught.

previously the teachers were so lazy the kids taught themselves, even setting aside the covid garbage

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 24, 2023 01:23 PM (AcWfM)

78 >>>Oregon Becomes The Latest Blue State to Suspend All Tests of English and Math Proficiency


'You dyed of dis, and Terry.'

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:23 PM (8+ld9)

79 re 55: there was a 'bloom county' comic strip in the 1980's where one boy's father is feeling old and finally says something like 'i don't know if i should stay in bed or wind a watch!' and the boy says "what exactly do you mean by 'wind a watch?'"

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:23 PM (B1FKF)

80 Uno + uno = dos.

Posted by: wth at October 24, 2023 01:23 PM (v0R5T)

81 Merit and discipline are colonial values.

This too is what decolonization looks like.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 24, 2023 01:23 PM (473t0)

82 The mind boggles at the idea of the Technician running the auto doc mixing up which orifice the probes go into.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 24, 2023 01:23 PM (z5vMw)

83 When you can't compete with Asians, take your ball and go home.

Posted by: dave's not here, man at October 24, 2023 01:24 PM (raPis)

84 Just another part of Western Civilization being destroyed to the detriment of the poor.

Posted by: Iris at October 24, 2023 01:24 PM (NaH5I)

85 So, your saying, this is a dodge? Our leaders are incompetent or evil. Hard choices.
Posted by: Pudinhead


Embrace the power of "and".

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:24 PM (l8w2w)

86 Supporters of the bill say Black and Latino students are disproportionately affected by these suspensions. Research shows that these students are often the ones who suffer a reduced loss of learning and experience higher drop-out rates.
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Then they should stop being defiant and disruptive. They want out. Send them out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:24 PM (d04cU)

87 Reading is undermental.

Posted by: Archer at October 24, 2023 01:24 PM (gmo/4)

88 Enjoy your indoor plumbing, electricity, and other "niceties" of Western Civilization while you can. Keeping these things operating is going to get a lot harder in the future.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD.

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The state of New York is voting to ban ALL natural gas appliances (not just new construction) and decommission natural gas pipelines in the state. It's already passed the senate.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 24, 2023 01:24 PM (RDD2k)

89 75 69 So, your saying, this is a dodge? Our leaders are incompetent or evil. Hard choices.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:22 PM (naiw2)

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They are incompetent at doing the actual, described work of government while spending all of their time working out how to steal more money while pitting the population against itself so that they can retain power and steal more money.

So, really, we should be building them statues.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:23 PM (GBKbO)

I've never seen a statue to the guy that killed Hitler...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:24 PM (ynpvh)

90 The Chinese ship Newnew Polar Bear has been seen in the Port of Arkhangelsk with its anchor missing.

Finnish investigators suspects it lost the anchor by dragging it into the Balticconnector, causing damages to the Finnish-Estonian gas pipeline that will take 6 months to repair
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 24, 2023 01:13 PM (TGPs7)


Sucks to be Europe.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:24 PM (zhLdt)

91 “Students of color “ can’t cut it, evidently.
That’s what they keep telling us.

Posted by: Ex GOP at October 24, 2023 01:24 PM (V3K4b)

92 what I was trying to say (not well) is in COLLEGE they are being taught for the first time since maybe kindergarten.

not just shown boring PPT presentations on a screen by a dull teacher who just reads off them

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 24, 2023 01:24 PM (AcWfM)

93 We shouldn't punish students for being lazy, stupid and drug addled. It's not who we are.

-Something Barack Obama probably said.

Posted by: Ripley at October 24, 2023 01:24 PM (JojsZ)

94 Pick a side, people.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 24, 2023 01:18 PM (iFTx/)

Abolish government/public skools.

The utes ain't be learning nam nothing no how.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 24, 2023 01:24 PM (R/m4+)

95 Cut the education budget to zero, since they are not educating. Spend the money on a fence to keep them penned in the state.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 24, 2023 01:25 PM (lK3kz)

96 Mental note- Don't hire kids that received their educated at Oregon public schools.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 24, 2023 01:25 PM (NpAcC)

97 73 @23

>>So blacks, et al, are too stupid to succeed, Oregon?

There was a time that blacks had higher marital rates than whites and were nearly on par education wise with most rural whites, then FDR, Wilson and LBJ and the Great Society fixed that glitch.

When you think of all of the bad aspects of American History, you can always find a Democrat or alternatively, Pre-Switched Republicans.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2023 01:22 PM (rc3Z7)

Oregon has a surprisingly racist history. The state had Black Exclusion Laws in effect when they entered the Union.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:25 PM (Am72j)

98 I'd be curious to see numbers that separate the rural and urban testing scores.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:25 PM (GBKbO)

99 Unions delenda est

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 24, 2023 01:25 PM (wRddn)

100 You can't suspend them for disruption of class now?
Assign the disrupters to 'Study Hall' all day and show them PG movies. And make sure the volume is high so they have to yell to be heard.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (6XjEr)

101 Mental note- Don't hire kids that received their educated at Oregon public schools.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 24, 2023 01:25 PM (NpAcC)



That's retarded, sir.

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (Zz0t1)

102 There needs to be some legitimate solution for getting those with lower IQs caught up at Math to at least _some_ extent.
Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 01:15 PM (sm6Pk)


They've already declared math to be rayciss.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (zhLdt)

103 First Gaza.

Then the AFT.

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (8+ld9)

104 The new version of Oregon Trail: "You have died of electrocution because you're too fucking stupid."

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (CwhoI)

105 More and more it's looking like the movie Idiocracy was a true vision of the future.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (BdMk6)

106 This really angers me.

Trapping children in the public schools is stealing the future of bright, poor children.

Effectively, this is enforcement of the class system, ensuring that only the progeny of the "elite" get a proper education.

Talented, intelligent member of the "poors"? Wallow in mediocrity because a good education is only for the elite.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (JMAcK)

107 76 They need to hide from the public exactly how much blue governments and their teachers union shock troops damaged children.
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Yes, because it's an actual risk. Yes, some families out there - a lot of them - simply don't care about education. They don't matter to this point. *All* of the rest do care about it, and it is universal. Black mothers generally want their kids in good schools. Poor mothers. Rich mothers. Asian mothers. It's across the board. There is a reason why school choice measures - whatever they are - have a high degree of support among voters, and why they are blocked at every turn.

This is one of the very few things that crosses major demographic lines in terms of support.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:23 PM (d04cU)

They want 'good schools' but good schools require good kids. And these parents aren't raising good kids. Any school they get sent to, they'll drag it down.

I'm about to go and advocate for Japan's system: free education up to 9th grade. High School is 10-12 and requires entrance exams and cash money to get in.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (xcxpd)

108 101 Mental note- Don't hire kids that received their educated at Oregon public schools.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 24, 2023 01:25 PM (NpAcC)


That's retarded, sir.

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (Zz0t1)

If only Rachel could WRITE the word retarded...or READ it...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (ynpvh)

109 The commies can't complete their takeover with an educated populace. Whatever it is that the Education Unions publicly state, for example: 'We want all students to succeed'; the truth is that we want all students to be able to parrot our propaganda and become useful idiots in enabling a 'fundamental transformation' of the USA; otherwise known as totalitarian control over every aspect of our lives.
Unless and until the Rs finally wake up and put a stop to this nonsense,it will continue to degrade into a full blown hot civil war.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (JNTt1)

110 Some of these tests do have problems but you have to admit this is just doing your best to protect your politically aligned blue state education groups from scrutiny over their covid response, which frankly sucked and was certainly not based upon science.

If you are in a blue state, you need to exit the public school system at all costs. They are no longer even pretending to be worried about your kid's education. It's all about grooming, indoctrinating, and creating the next generation of leftists (since it is becoming very apparent their ability to procreate and replace themselves normally is beyond them).

Posted by: Black JEM at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (GZYu7)

111 They are incompetent at doing the actual, described work of government while spending all of their time working out how to steal more money while pitting the population against itself so that they can retain power and steal more money.

So, really, we should be building them statues.
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So we're right back to Fucking Round Heads and Crazy Quakers, rite? That only cost us 21% of the American Population.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:27 PM (naiw2)

112 All Unions are Communist Front Groups.

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:27 PM (8+ld9)

113 Can't read, can't write, can't do math. Keep 'em stupid!

- General Beaufort Beauregard Bradford III, CSA

Posted by: Archer at October 24, 2023 01:27 PM (gmo/4)

114 Oregon has a surprisingly racist history. The state had Black Exclusion Laws in effect when they entered the Union.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:25 PM (Am72j)

*Illinois has entered the chat*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:27 PM (xcxpd)

115 104 The new version of Oregon Trail: "You have died of electrocution because you're too fucking stupid."

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (CwhoI)

More like, "You have choked on your ball-gag during auto-erotic asphixiation while high on crack and meth"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:27 PM (ynpvh)

116 passing students who are actually failures

Twelve years to flatten the curve.

Posted by: t-bird at October 24, 2023 01:27 PM (e2onP)

117 >>Oregon Becomes The Latest Blue State to Suspend All Tests of English and Math Proficiency

'You dyed of dis, and Terry.'
Posted by: garrett

The Oregon Trail death toll goes on and on.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 24, 2023 01:28 PM (6XjEr)

118 I recall when NYS had exceptionally rigorous testing standards. It was a point of pride among parents, teachers and students.

And not the new kind of "Pride."

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at October 24, 2023 01:28 PM (nnp+f)

119 The point where there are two Americas continues to widen. Unfortunately I live in the blue state of NY and if society collapses under the weight of intentionally stupid government I'll feel it first. Amongst the bail reform laws was one were most teenagers who commit crimes have their crimes adjudicated in family courts. Because bof that more teenagers have been involved in gang life because they know the penalties are limited. I'm sure not educating the little darlings will help

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 24, 2023 01:28 PM (PeRgH)

120 They want 'good schools' but good schools require good kids. And these parents aren't raising good kids. Any school they get sent to, they'll drag it down. ...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (xcxpd)
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In some cases, yes.

Which is why schools *must* be permitted - even encouraged - to kick bad kids out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:28 PM (d04cU)

121 The commies can't complete their takeover with an educated populace.


Which is funny. Because the majority of people in say, 1919, were light years ahead of students now.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:28 PM (l8w2w)

122 Which is why schools *must* be permitted - even encouraged - to kick bad kids out.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:28 PM (d04cU)

Endorsed

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:29 PM (xcxpd)

123 114 Oregon has a surprisingly racist history. The state had Black Exclusion Laws in effect when they entered the Union.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:25 PM (Am72j)

*Illinois has entered the chat*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:27 PM (xcxpd)

Miscegenation was illegal in Kali until the 1950's. Us poor Mexicans; we were BORN from miscegenation.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:29 PM (ynpvh)

124 And yet teachers demanded that the schools close, causing these very students, who were already behind their peers, to suffer the greatest learning loss of all.

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Maybe the problem is, at its core, that we have government funded schools in the first place?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:13 PM (GBKbO)
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Two major problems - any federal involvement in education should be banned as unconstitutional. Close the DOE. Eliminate any federal funding for education. Get them out of the college loan business.

There should be no unions in schools. None. Period, no exceptions.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 24, 2023 01:29 PM (GZYu7)

125
The Oregon Trail death toll goes on and on.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 24, 2023 01:28 PM (6XjEr)



So, you're saying a good use of the time machine would be to go back in time and wall off the Oregon Trail?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:29 PM (Zz0t1)

126 Teachers have made choices to teach gender and Marxsim instead of reading and math. Since they have made the decision to keep their students dumb, their pensions should be forfeited. Their students are the ones who are going to be paying their pensions, but because the students had them as teachers, they are too dumb to qualify for jobs that will pay their former teacher's pension.
So, let the teachers suffer the consequences of their incompetence. And please, we stop talking about how teachers are underpaid.

Posted by: william ferrin at October 24, 2023 01:30 PM (q/M8h)

127 102 They've already declared math to be rayciss.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (zhLdt)

I suck at math and I would have appreciated help if it had been offered when I was in school.

*shrug*

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 01:30 PM (sm6Pk)

128 117 >>Oregon Becomes The Latest Blue State to Suspend All Tests of English and Math Proficiency

'You dyed of dis, and Terry.'
Posted by: garrett

The Oregon Trail death toll goes on and on.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 24, 2023 01:28 PM (6XjEr)

Wait until they're on the Trans-Pacific rail-line to Africa...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:30 PM (ynpvh)

129 So Israel called for the UN Chief to resign ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 24, 2023 01:30 PM (bs+z0)

130 111 So we're right back to Fucking Round Heads and Crazy Quakers, rite? That only cost us 21% of the American Population.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:27 PM (n

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American population in 1860: 31 million.
Number of dead in Civil War: 620,000.

620,000/31,000,000 = 2%.

For my math, here is the Afternoon Arterton:

https://is.gd/9pWP5V

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:30 PM (GBKbO)

131 Beyond idiocracy we find that public schools are pre-incarceration training.

Posted by: These Fish Sticks Are Hard As Tits at October 24, 2023 01:30 PM (Somy5)

132 Posted by: Elric Blade at October 24, 2023 01:18 PM (iFTx/)

Government schools suck... except mine.
Congressmen suck... except mine.
Sportsball teams suck... except mine.
Women suck... except mine.

Consistency of thought.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:30 PM (zhLdt)

133 That's retarded, sir.

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (Zz0t1
*****
Ma'am.
Don't misgender me!!

Posted by: redridinghood at October 24, 2023 01:30 PM (NpAcC)

134 So, your saying, this is a dodge? Our leaders are incompetent or evil. Hard choices.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:22 PM (naiw2)
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Both.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 24, 2023 01:31 PM (GZYu7)

135 Oregon Becomes The Latest Blue State to Suspend All Tests of English and Math Proficiency

'You dyed of dis, and Terry.'
Posted by: garrett



More like, "you got a cap in yo ass for dissin' Terry".

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:31 PM (l8w2w)

136 We're getting a generation of kids who are at best semi-literate and innumerate. I'm glad I'm old.

Posted by: huerfano at October 24, 2023 01:31 PM (Q4KYm)

137 Isn't Kotek a brand of feminine hygiene products?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 01:31 PM (zZu0s)

138 132 Posted by: Elric Blade at October 24, 2023 01:18 PM (iFTx/)

Government schools suck... except mine.
Congressmen suck... except mine.
Sportsball teams suck... except mine.
Women suck... except mine.

Consistency of thought.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:30 PM (zhLdt)

Well that blows...or doesn't?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:31 PM (ynpvh)

139 17 The stupid are easier to control.

Posted by: Sponge -

Much more important - Schools make more money off stupid students.

They have turned "the disadvantaged" and disruptive students into a cash cow - consultants, special instruction, special programs, special facilities,....
The worse the students, the more the school spends and the less the school staff works.

Same once they graduate. They become the class that supports thousands of social service, criminal justice, and city employees.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 24, 2023 01:32 PM (473t0)

140 Which is why schools *must* be permitted - even encouraged - to kick bad kids out.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:28 PM (d04cU)

Endorsed
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Somebody ought to stop paying school districts for kids attendance...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 24, 2023 01:32 PM (6XjEr)

141 All "disproportionate impact" is essentially a motte-and-Bailey fallacy.

It is used to IMPLY that insidious forces of "structural racism" at play in causing "x" (supposedly undesirable outcome).

But when you ask: show me that racism is causative, and not just a correlation, then they retreat to pure, redistributive victimhood, as in "Well, people-of-whatever are more AFFECTED by x."

Posted by: Zek at October 24, 2023 01:32 PM (5FPX4)

142 Oregon, like Washington State, like California is a stunningly beautiful state ruined by the people that live in its cities.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:32 PM (xcxpd)

143 1984 as an instruction manual for government has been supplanted by Idiocracy.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 24, 2023 01:32 PM (z5vMw)

144 Levelers always level down.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at October 24, 2023 01:32 PM (I8nLU)

145 @97

>>Oregon has a surprisingly racist history. The state had Black Exclusion Laws in effect when they entered the Union.

Sure, but when America was at it's worst, blacks built created their own schools, their own churches, their own businesses and as I said, were on par with whites in many aspects and then the Donks decided to strip mine them for votes and effectively destroyed black culture, society, initiative and drive.

The fact that Republicans don't re-inforce this aspect of Democrat history is very telling.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2023 01:32 PM (rc3Z7)

146 I was trying to figure out what movie this was a review of and then I got it-- Idiocracy!

Posted by: Scottst at October 24, 2023 01:33 PM (qcvs8)

147 Which is funny. Because the majority of people in say, 1919, were light years ahead of students now.
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Yep. And they finished HS at 16.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:33 PM (naiw2)

148 Somebody ought to stop paying school districts for kids attendance...
Posted by: AZ deplorable

But then what would all those truancy round up "officers" do on official count days?

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 24, 2023 01:33 PM (CIS44)

149 >>Oregon, like Washington State, like California is a stunningly beautiful state ruined by the people that live in its cities.

Montana is trying its best to catch up.

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:33 PM (8+ld9)

150
For my math, here is the Afternoon Arterton:

https://is.gd/9pWP5V
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:30 PM (GBKbO)



That image doesn't make up for blog math.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:33 PM (Zz0t1)

151 124 There should be no unions in schools. None. Period, no exceptions.
Posted by: Black JEM at October 24, 2023 01:29 PM (GZYu7)

No Government Unions, Period.

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 01:33 PM (sm6Pk)

152 142 Oregon, like Washington State, like California is a stunningly beautiful state ruined by the people that live in its cities.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:32 PM (xcxpd)

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I drove through a whole bunch of upstate SC this weekend.

Very pretty. Bunch of cute little towns.

A terrible place for yankees because there are churches everywhere and guns.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:33 PM (GBKbO)

153 I suck at math and I would have appreciated help if it had been offered when I was in school.

*shrug*
Posted by: XTC


Jermain has one kilo that cost $32,000. How many times can he safety step on it to make enough selling dime bags to pay back his connect before he gets slotted?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:33 PM (l8w2w)

154 Is there a standardized test for gender fluidity?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 24, 2023 01:34 PM (HfNu5)

155 Which is funny. Because the majority of people in say, 1919, were light years ahead of students now.
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Yep. And they finished HS at 16.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:33 PM (naiw2)

And walked to school in winter . . .

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 24, 2023 01:34 PM (4I/2K)

156 >>Isn't Kotek a brand of feminine hygiene products?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 01:31 PM

You'll have to check the Boys' restroom.

Posted by: huerfano at October 24, 2023 01:34 PM (Q4KYm)

157 150
For my math, here is the Afternoon Arterton:

https://is.gd/9pWP5V
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:30 PM (GBKbO)


That image doesn't make up for blog math.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:33 PM (Zz0t1)

Well there is some calculus in trying to figure out of the angles are a cute or not. And the curavture does invite some closer investigation as the to what functions they match to.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:34 PM (ynpvh)

158 I am a children.

Posted by: Ciampino - Idiots or Stoidi at October 24, 2023 01:34 PM (qfLjt)

159 The new normal. Abbie somebody.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 24, 2023 01:34 PM (63Dwl)

160 Make Child Labor Great Again

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:34 PM (8+ld9)

161 There was a time that blacks had higher marital rates than whites and were nearly on par education wise with most rural whites, then FDR, Wilson and LBJ and the Great Society fixed that glitch.

When you think of all of the bad aspects of American History, you can always find a Democrat or alternatively, Pre-Switched Republicans.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2023 01:22 PM (rc3Z7)


Yeah. Whenever someone tries to make it a racial/genetic thing, I like to point out that this was an engineered outcome.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:35 PM (zhLdt)

162 If you have kids in government schools, get 'em out before they're damaged further.

Posted by: Rowsdower Believes Ray Epps is a Fed and Ashli Bennett is Crispus Attucks at October 24, 2023 01:35 PM (Yvzx0)

163 Teaching a man to fish is racist.

Posted by: Zek at October 24, 2023 01:35 PM (5FPX4)

164 Make Child Labor Great Again
Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:34 PM (8+ld9)



WAY ahead of ya, bro.

Posted by: Nike at October 24, 2023 01:35 PM (Zz0t1)

165 153 I suck at math and I would have appreciated help if it had been offered when I was in school.

*shrug*
Posted by: XTC


Jermain has one kilo that cost $32,000. How many times can he safety step on it to make enough selling dime bags to pay back his connect before he gets slotted?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:33 PM (l8w2w)

Chemistry follow-up: How much can Jermain cut his kilo with junk to make a profit AND pay off his dealers?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:35 PM (ynpvh)

166 15 The soft bigotry of low expectations.
Posted by: Mickey Morgan at October 24, 2023 01:14 PM

Please clap.

Posted by: íJeb Bush! at October 24, 2023 01:35 PM (BN6WR)

167 Further --

The big problem the Left has with long prison sentences is that it takes their "clients" off the streets where city social workers need them to be to continue as source of revenue.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 24, 2023 01:35 PM (473t0)

168 Just flipped on Fox Business. One of the reporters is at a store and a couple of strikers are walking in circles playing bongos. If I was on that picket line they would have their bongos shoved up there butts.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 24, 2023 01:35 PM (PeRgH)

169 Jermain has one kilo that cost $32,000. How many times can he safety step on it to make enough selling dime bags to pay back his connect before he gets slotted?
Posted by: rickb223 a

Corner Boys can do fast math, this is a proven fact.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 24, 2023 01:35 PM (CIS44)

170 Remember when we were a smart, ingenious, trustworthy society? I remember.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 24, 2023 01:36 PM (JeYYB)

171 154 Is there a standardized test for gender fluidity?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 24, 2023 01:34 PM (HfNu5)

Gender Viscosity Studies?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:36 PM (ynpvh)

172 135 More like, "you got a cap in yo ass for dissin' Terry".
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:31 PM (l8w2w)

The person who's capping you isn't gonna be named "Terry". It's gonna be more something like "T'D'Qwellery"

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 01:36 PM (sm6Pk)

173 are there not workhouses

Posted by: DB - at October 24, 2023 01:36 PM (geLO8)

174 Teaching a man to fish is racist.
Posted by: Zek at October 24, 2023 01:35 PM (5FPX4)



Why learn to fish when you can go to the store and buy one pre-cut?

Posted by: Average Millennial Graduate at October 24, 2023 01:36 PM (Zz0t1)

175 I don't understand this. The State of Oregon will soon not have any new K-12 teachers to hire. How can kids go to college to get an Education Degree and then a Teaching Certificate if they can't read, write, and do math upon leaving high school?

Oh, wait...

Posted by: Gref at October 24, 2023 01:36 PM (5fDan)

176 A terrible place for yankees because there are churches everywhere and guns.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:33 PM (GBKbO)

WE do have churches in Yankee towns and they're not all left wing. Also, most of the conservative men I know have guns (CC) and know how to use them

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 24, 2023 01:36 PM (RSbhh)

177 Under communism, we will all be equally dumb and equally poor


Except for the rich elites....they will still be eating steak.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 24, 2023 01:36 PM (E5D8O)

178 You just don't understand. The principle is that no one may be smarter than our Maximum Leader for Life.

Once you grasp that, it all makes sense.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 24, 2023 01:36 PM (brAQZ)

179 New State Motto:

There no retard like an Oregon retard.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 24, 2023 01:37 PM (QzZeQ)

180 off topic: headline from my mammy herald:

Lone Jewish Republican member of Florida Legislature knocks DeSantis, endorses Trump

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:37 PM (B1FKF)

181 I really do not want Emmer as the speaker. We were better off with McCarthy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 24, 2023 01:37 PM (pVWRI)

182
Isn't Kotek a brand of feminine hygiene products?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop


It's a comet.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 24, 2023 01:38 PM (63Dwl)

183 New State Motto:

There no retard like an Oregon retard.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 24, 2023 01:37 PM (QzZeQ)



"Uhhh........um.......we got trees......n' stuff......."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:38 PM (Zz0t1)

184 I you teach them reading, writing, and arithmetic, then they won't be slaves any longer.

Posted by: Oregon Legislature at October 24, 2023 01:38 PM (gmo/4)

185 As bad as this is, it is even worse when you consider how slack and undemanding most schools are anymore. Assignments handed in late with minimal or no penalty, work allowed to be redone, lowest grade from assignments thrown out, etc... I am amazed at what I have seen in my kids schools, and that included one supposedly rigorous charter school. As I recall in ancient times most assignment were not accepted late or if they were at was at huge markdown of at least 10% per day. And no parent dared challenge it for their spawn.

Posted by: Ripley at October 24, 2023 01:39 PM (JojsZ)

186 This wet bikini brunette that in this country, even "good schools" aren't:
https://is.gd/R6sCIf

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:39 PM (d04cU)

187 give a man a plane ticket and he can fly today

throw a man from a plane 1500 feet above the ground and he will fly for the rest of his life.

socialism for the win

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:39 PM (B1FKF)

188
No Testing, all the drugs.

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 24, 2023 01:39 PM (+oR7L)

189 New hobby er'body!!

Wakeboarding! Man oh man what a thrill! There I was out on the butter, when I popped the wake and did a corked spin! I first thought it was gonna' be a real digger but I managed to land out in the flats. Back across the wake I popped an off-axis spin! A real stargazer it was! Any-hoo, got get back on the butter now.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at October 24, 2023 01:39 PM (X4yCj)

190 We have been in an education death spiral for decades with the educator ranks now populated with "teachers" who are products of these school systems whose primary achievement is advancing illiteracy.

Posted by: lost in space at October 24, 2023 01:39 PM (5CKpx)

191 186 This wet bikini brunette that in this country, even "good schools" aren't:
https://is.gd/R6sCIf
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:39 PM (d04cU)

========

Tries to complete sentences without verbs.

2/10

Would not bang.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:40 PM (GBKbO)

192 For my math, here is the Afternoon Arterton:

https://is.gd/9pWP5V
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:30 PM (GBKbO)


I understand that it's not a widely held opinion, and I can't explain it, but I do not find her particularly attractive.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:40 PM (zhLdt)

193 185 As bad as this is, it is even worse when you consider how slack and undemanding most schools are anymore. Assignments handed in late with minimal or no penalty, work allowed to be redone, lowest grade from assignments thrown out, etc... I am amazed at what I have seen in my kids schools, and that included one supposedly rigorous charter school. As I recall in ancient times most assignment were not accepted late or if they were at was at huge markdown of at least 10% per day. And no parent dared challenge it for their spawn.

Posted by: Ripley at October 24, 2023 01:39 PM (JojsZ)

I remember a kid that got -10% on a test. That's right, NEGATIVE 10%. The teacher marked off 10% for not putting your name on a test, and that kid got every answer wrong.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:40 PM (ynpvh)

194 They are just "grading on a curve". But there is no fundamental math or reading skills required.

I wonder if their is some Woke Indoctrination that actually is required.
Like -- "whites have oppressed all the others, diversity is our strength", or

"men can choose to be women, and can have and nurse babies".

"America is an evil force in the world".

There is some intense effort to instill those "core values" into every child, along with the grooming.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 24, 2023 01:40 PM (Cus5s)

195 "So you don't put a test in front of a student and completely demoralize them..."

Where in the world did we ever get the idea that it should be the goal not to demoralize someone who is not prepared? In real life, you are prepared, or you are not. If you are not, it is demoralizing. Better to learn that in a school on a test than when the bridge your building collapses and kills you and everyone else.

Posted by: DPICM at October 24, 2023 01:40 PM (M2VUX)

196 I you teach them reading, writing, and arithmetic, then they won't be slaves any longer.

Posted by: Oregon Legislature at October 24, 2023 01:38 PM (gmo/4)


Excellent gibberish.

"If" you teach..

Posted by: Archer at October 24, 2023 01:40 PM (gmo/4)

197 "If only they weren't automatically discredited by the myopic analysis and bigotry that follows them," Martinez Zapata said in a late September meeting, adding that "rhetoric about cultural and social norms being the underlying reason for underperformance on assessments by systemically marginalized students" was reminiscent of "racial superiority arguments."

Word vomit adored by insecure affirmative action hires who are desperate for approval from the intelligentsia who also happen to be a gaggle of insecure people trying to impress one another. It's the circle of life.

Posted by: kathysaysso at October 24, 2023 01:40 PM (yACxx)

198 185 As I recall in ancient times most assignment were not accepted late or if they were at was at huge markdown of at least 10% per day. And no parent dared challenge it for their spawn.
Posted by: Ripley at October 24, 2023 01:39 PM (JojsZ)

With most of my teachers, it was an automatic 0%. There was no "late". You either had it on time, or you didn't have it at all.

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 01:41 PM (sm6Pk)

199 186 This wet bikini brunette that in this country, even "good schools" aren't:
https://is.gd/R6sCIf

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:39 PM (d04cU)

Belly jewelery; 2/10. WNB

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:41 PM (ynpvh)

200 Some of you *might* be old enough to remember the book, 'Why Can't Johnny Read?;

[testing the line-length limitation]:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Johnny_Can%27t_Read

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 24, 2023 01:41 PM (XeU6L)

201 ========

Tries to complete sentences without verbs.

2/10

Would not bang.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:40 PM (GBKbO)




Yet still better than your lame attempt at a request for forgiveness........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:41 PM (Zz0t1)

202 Oregon, like Washington State, like California is a stunningly beautiful state ruined by the people that live in its cities.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:32 PM (xcxpd)

Sadly, very true.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 24, 2023 01:41 PM (BdMk6)

203 >>This wet bikini brunette that in this country, even "good schools" aren't:
https://is.gd/R6sCIf

'If you put your ear next to it, you can smell the ocean!'

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:41 PM (8+ld9)

204
How many more cultural institutions are the Left going to have to destroy before we're living in the Third World Hellhole of their dreams?

BONUS! Question:

Not everybody is a billionaire with a safe compound in New Zealand for when the Burning Times start.

What do all these creeps think is going to happen to them when they succeed in destroying the United State and the rest of Western Civ?

Posted by: naturalfake at October 24, 2023 01:41 PM (QzZeQ)

205 This wet bikini brunette that in this country, even "good schools" aren't:
https://is.gd/R6sCIf
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:39 PM (d04cU)

========

Tries to complete sentences without verbs.

2/10

Would not bang.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


*becomes VP of the US.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:41 PM (l8w2w)

206 The weird thing is, Oregon is one of the whitest places I've ever visited.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 24, 2023 01:42 PM (MeG8a)

207 187 give a man a plane ticket and he can fly today

throw a man from a plane 1500 feet above the ground and he will fly for the rest of his life.

socialism for the win

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:39 PM (B1FKF)

From Terry Pratchet:
Make a man a fire, keep him warm for a night;
Set a man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:42 PM (ynpvh)

208 re 186: maybe it's the way she's sitting but she looks like she has big thighs. i'd probably go for her but only because she's a lot younger than i am. and then she'd say something stupid and maybe i'd change my mind

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:42 PM (B1FKF)

209 >This wet bikini brunette

I don't believe the eyelashes

Posted by: DB - at October 24, 2023 01:42 PM (geLO8)

210 That's retarded, sir.

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (Zz0t1
*****
Ma'am.
Don't misgender me!!
Posted by: redridinghood at October 24, 2023 01:30 PM (NpAcC)

That wouldn't happen if you ate more Spam !

Posted by: JT at October 24, 2023 01:42 PM (T4tVD)

211 recall when NYS had exceptionally rigorous testing standards. It was a point of pride among parents, teachers and students.

And not the new kind of "Pride."

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov


I took a test published in the WSJ not long after grad school. I got the equivalent of a B. At the end, they noted that it was a NYC high school entrance exam from 1900.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 24, 2023 01:42 PM (lK3kz)

212 Why have school at all?
Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 24, 2023 01:14 PM (MeG8a)


WHAT WOULD WE DO FOR PROPERTY TAX AND BLOCK GRANTS YOU IDIOT!

Posted by: Oregon County Commissioners and Oregon Teacher Standards and Practices Commission at October 24, 2023 01:42 PM (xhaym)

213 192 For my math, here is the Afternoon Arterton:

https://is.gd/9pWP5V
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:30 PM (GBKbO)

I understand that it's not a widely held opinion, and I can't explain it, but I do not find her particularly attractive.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:40 PM (zhLdt)

She looks okay. Never thought of her as a raving beauty.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:43 PM (ynpvh)

214 For my math, here is the Afternoon Arterton:

I'm glad to see that she's getting some acting coaching on smiling. It's looks like with a little more work she'll achieve a full smile.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 24, 2023 01:43 PM (RSbhh)

215 181 I really do not want Emmer as the speaker. We were better off with McCarthy
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 24, 2023 01:37 PM (pVWRI)

McCarthy didn't know enough to follow a clear agreement that he made to become Speaker. If Emmer is smart enough to understand how much the base really hates the GOP and make even token noises against Biden, that will be a major improvement.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:43 PM (Am72j)

216 Think how bad it would be if we didn't have a Department of Education!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 24, 2023 01:43 PM (FVME7)

217 Universal voucher system now.

If they're not even tracking performance of kids in public schools, they can't say with a straight face that homeschooled kids would perform worse.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 24, 2023 01:17 PM (fKIdX)


Even if parents pocketed the money and taught nothing, the kids would be better off without the indoctrination.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at October 24, 2023 01:43 PM (I8nLU)

218 and then she'd say something stupid

That would spoil it all.

Posted by: zombie Frank Sinatra at October 24, 2023 01:43 PM (AUkrG)

219 How much education do you need to become an internet influencer?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 24, 2023 01:44 PM (63Dwl)

220
The whole state of Oregon is Red, except for the main blue vein of the I-5 corridor from Corvallis to Vancouver. Many are multi generational California transplants that brought their insidious politics with them.

Damn them to hell.

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 24, 2023 01:44 PM (+oR7L)

221 @204

>>What do all these creeps think is going to happen to them when they succeed in destroying the United State and the rest of Western Civ?

It all comes down to ideology, some people are so married to their ideology and world view that they would sacrifice their own children.

See Kate Steinle and Seth Rich's parents for an example of the adherence to ideology.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2023 01:44 PM (rc3Z7)

222 214 For my math, here is the Afternoon Arterton:

I'm glad to see that she's getting some acting coaching on smiling. It's looks like with a little more work she'll achieve a full smile.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 24, 2023 01:43 PM (RSbhh)

The Horde handicapping women… pretty funny, and ironic, actually, Fen..

Posted by: tubal at October 24, 2023 01:44 PM (sdNBG)

223 189 New hobby er'body!! Wakeboarding! Man oh man what a thrill! There I was out on the butter, when I popped the wake and did a corked spin! I first thought it was gonna' be a real digger but I managed to land out in the flats. Back across the wake I popped an off-axis spin! A real stargazer it was! Any-hoo, got get back on the butter now.
Posted by: Jimmy Carter at October 24, 2023 01:39 PM

Sweet, bruh! I'm about to jump off Everest with my wingsuit after a solo ascent for some sweet gnar-gnar, but I've heard wakeboarding is a total rush. Shacka-bra!

Posted by: Zombie Ruth Bader Ginsburg at October 24, 2023 01:45 PM (BN6WR)

224 So if kids aren't learning anything and there are no tests to see if kids have learned anything then why are these places called schools? Aren't they just Day Care centers where highly paid "teachers" babysit children? Maybe they can teach the "students" how to use blocks at least.

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at October 24, 2023 01:45 PM (WiAW9)

225 222 214 For my math, here is the Afternoon Arterton:

I'm glad to see that she's getting some acting coaching on smiling. It's looks like with a little more work she'll achieve a full smile.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 24, 2023 01:43 PM (RSbhh)

The Horde handicapping women… pretty funny, and ironic, actually, Fen..

Posted by: tubal at October 24, 2023 01:44 PM (sdNBG)

If I was a betting man...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:45 PM (ynpvh)

226 Anybody who sends their kids to public schools gets a vasectomy and spends a night in the box.

Posted by: Carr, The Floor Walker at October 24, 2023 01:45 PM (R/m4+)

227 and then she'd say something stupid

That would spoil it all.
Posted by: zombie Frank Sinatra
---
*?*

Uh? Whut? I don't get this.

Posted by: Gen Z at October 24, 2023 01:45 PM (XeU6L)

228 How nice, Oregon has recreated the WPA in the form of teaching at a public school.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 24, 2023 01:45 PM (z5vMw)

229 'You dyed of dis, and Terry.'
Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:23 PM


But mostly Terry.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 24, 2023 01:45 PM (aQy7p)

230 Disclose.tv @disclosetv 58m
NOW - Biden: "I was in the Tibetan plateau with Xi Jinping."

26 seconds; Joe gives Xi the wisdom, Asshopper.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 24, 2023 01:45 PM (krqg6)

231 re 204: never put it past the elite to think the revolution will turn to them for leadership. i recalling reading that a lot of the big biz people who supported hitler in the early 1930s thought they would be able to control him. or that he wasn't really that crazy.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:46 PM (B1FKF)

232 >>Oregon has a surprisingly racist history. The state had Black Exclusion Laws in effect when they entered the Union.


A huge number of pioneers came from free and border states, and were also the ones driven into poverty in competition with slave labor: there were some slaves brought to the state but the Provisional government outlawed slave holding

In the lead up to the Civil war, most of the settlers did not want to be part of the looming conflict that they had alread moved to avoid

Posted by: Kindltot at October 24, 2023 01:46 PM (xhaym)

233 >>What do all these creeps think is going to happen to them when they succeed in destroying the United State and the rest of Western Civ?

It all comes down to ideology, some people are so married to their ideology and world view that they would sacrifice their own children.

See Kate Steinle and Seth Rich's parents for an example of the adherence to ideology.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2023 01:44 PM (rc3Z7)

See also Palestinians

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:46 PM (xcxpd)

234 Disclose.tv @disclosetv 58m
NOW - Biden: "I was in the Tibetan plateau with Xi Jinping."

26 seconds; Joe gives Xi the wisdom, Asshopper.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 24, 2023 01:45 PM (krqg6)




Yeah, that's the ticket.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:46 PM (Zz0t1)

235 Not everybody is a billionaire with a safe compound in New Zealand for when the Burning Times start.

What do all these creeps think is going to happen to them when they succeed in destroying the United State and the rest of Western Civ?
Posted by: naturalfake at October 24, 2023 01:41 PM (QzZeQ)
++++
The really funny part will be for those who *do* have those bunkers, because they won't be able to get them. Even if they do, they will find that ravening peasants can eat them in NZ just as effectively as elsewhere.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:46 PM (d04cU)

236 Israel’s Foreign Minister Eli Cohen accused UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres of justifying Hamas’ October 7 attack and canceled his meeting with him.

“I will not meet with the UN Secretary General. After October 7th there is no room for a balanced approach. Hamas must be erased from the world!,” Cohen stated.

Israel’s Ambassador to the United Nations Gilad Erdan called for him to resign.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 24, 2023 01:47 PM (pVWRI)

237 So if kids aren't learning anything and there are no tests to see if kids have learned anything then why are these places called schools? Aren't they just Day Care centers where highly paid "teachers" babysit children? Maybe they can teach the "students" how to use blocks at least.
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at October 24, 2023 01:45 PM


Must indoctrinate them with The Narrative, donchaknow.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 24, 2023 01:47 PM (aQy7p)

238 227 and then she'd say something stupid

That would spoil it all.
Posted by: zombie Frank Sinatra
---
*?*

Uh? Whut? I don't get this.
Posted by: Gen Z at October 24, 2023 01:45 PM (XeU6L)

Heh.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:47 PM (Am72j)

239 232 >>Oregon has a surprisingly racist history. The state had Black Exclusion Laws in effect when they entered the Union.


A huge number of pioneers came from free and border states, and were also the ones driven into poverty in competition with slave labor: there were some slaves brought to the state but the Provisional government outlawed slave holding

In the lead up to the Civil war, most of the settlers did not want to be part of the looming conflict that they had alread moved to avoid

Posted by: Kindltot at October 24, 2023 01:46 PM (xhaym)

And I had ancestors come to the US a few decades to a few years before the conflict and ended fighting in it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 24, 2023 01:47 PM (ynpvh)

240
See Kate Steinle and Seth Rich's parents for an example of the adherence to ideology.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2023 01:44 PM (rc3Z7)



Kate's parents didn't want the illegal alien punished for murdering their daughter.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)

241 Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
54m
Good news, Emmer's received Kristol's blessing

Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
FYI.

Tom Emmer - GOP Legislator Profile - Republicans For Ukraine https://gopforukraine.com/legislator/tom-emmer/

Posted by: redridinghood at October 24, 2023 01:47 PM (NpAcC)

242 224 So if kids aren't learning anything and there are no tests to see if kids have learned anything then why are these places called schools? Aren't they just Day Care centers where highly paid "teachers" babysit children?

pretty certain "day care" assumes there's caring going on. "hangout" would orobably be more appropriate.

Posted by: anachronda at October 24, 2023 01:47 PM (wd1yU)

243 Sounds to me that Oregon is making the argument that we don't need schools at all.

I mean, if they aren't going to test the kids to prove that they've learned something, why bother to have them learn anything at all?

And if they don't need to learn anything, they don't need people to teach them nor a place in which to be taught.

So just close the government schools and make the problem go away entirely.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 24, 2023 01:47 PM (ou9hh)

244 @220

>>The whole state of Oregon is Red, except for the main blue vein of the I-5 corridor from Corvallis to Vancouver. Many are multi generational California transplants that brought their insidious politics with them.

Somehow this map produces a Democrat Supermajority in the state. Figure out how that is accomplished and either copy it or stop it.

https://tinyurl.com/wa2zjyrw

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2023 01:47 PM (rc3Z7)

245 This wet bikini brunette that in this country, even "good schools" aren't:
https://is.gd/R6sCIf
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:39 PM (d04cU)

Busty. I like.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:48 PM (xcxpd)

246 #230 AND it's a repeat!

https://tinyurl.com/ywjrkyv5

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 24, 2023 01:48 PM (krqg6)

247 185 As bad as this is, it is even worse when you consider how slack and undemanding most schools are anymore. Assignments handed in late with minimal or no penalty, work allowed to be redone, lowest grade from assignments thrown out, etc... I am amazed at what I have seen in my kids schools, and that included one supposedly rigorous charter school. As I recall in ancient times most assignment were not accepted late or if they were at was at huge markdown of at least 10% per day. And no parent dared challenge it for their spawn.

Posted by: Ripley at October 24, 2023 01:39 PM (JojsZ)


———

At my kids schools, students can’t get less than a 50 on tests.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 24, 2023 01:48 PM (kK343)

248 @tomselliott
54m
Good news, Emmer's received Kristol's blessing

Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
FYI.

Tom Emmer - GOP Legislator Profile - Republicans For Ukraine https://gopforukraine.com/legislator/tom-emmer/
Posted by: redridinghood at October 24, 2023 01:47 PM (NpAcC)



OUT!

This means he should be launched to Bermuda via Trebuchet.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:48 PM (Zz0t1)

249
Old Motto: Keep Portland Weird

New Motto: Don't bother calling 911. You're on your own.

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 24, 2023 01:48 PM (+oR7L)

250 244 Somehow this map produces a Democrat Supermajority in the state. Figure out how that is accomplished and either copy it or stop it.

https://tinyurl.com/wa2zjyrw
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2023 01:47 PM (rc3Z7)

========

I will say that there do seem to be inherent advantages to massing a tightly grouped population in one small geographic space to amass political power over a much wider area.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:48 PM (GBKbO)

251 241 Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
54m
Good news, Emmer's received Kristol's blessing

Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
FYI.

Tom Emmer - GOP Legislator Profile - Republicans For Ukraine https://gopforukraine.com/legislator/tom-emmer/
Posted by: redridinghood at October 24, 2023 01:47 PM (NpAcC)

Forgive me, NGU! Ugh.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:49 PM (Am72j)

252 This attractive woman-not wearing a wet bikini-and not looking like she just ate something unpleasant-had achieved the ability to smile even before she took up modelling:

https://tinyurl.com/ckhavxz7

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 24, 2023 01:49 PM (RSbhh)

253 Some of you *might* be old enough to remember the book, 'Why Can't Johnny Read?;

Just looked at the pictures.

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 24, 2023 01:49 PM (cl+Gq)

254 Always been of the opinion that Oregon was 100x better than California.

The entire State is gorgeous. If you could eliminate the inhabitants of the I-5 Corridor, it would be perfect.

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:49 PM (8+ld9)

255 Oregon Becomes The Latest Blue State to Suspend All Tests of English and Math Proficiency

Neither are needed for hookers and ditch diggers.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 24, 2023 01:49 PM (C4HV4)

256
https://tinyurl.com/ywjrkyv5
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 24, 2023 01:48 PM (krqg6)



At least he didn't ask for a 3-letter word this time.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)

257 New hobby er'body!! Wakeboarding! Man oh man what a thrill! There I was out on the butter, when I popped the wake and did a corked spin! I first thought it was gonna' be a real digger but I managed to land out in the flats. Back across the wake I popped an off-axis spin! A real stargazer it was! Any-hoo, got get back on the butter now.
Posted by: Jimmy Carter at October 24, 2023 01:39 PM

Sweet, bruh! I'm about to jump off Everest with my wingsuit after a solo ascent for some sweet gnar-gnar, but I've heard wakeboarding is a total rush. Shacka-bra!
Posted by: Zombie Ruth Bader Ginsburg at October 24, 2023 01:45 PM (BN6WR)

That's heavy, man.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 24, 2023 01:49 PM (BdMk6)

258 How does one xi jinping? Does it require special equipment or padding?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 24, 2023 01:49 PM (FVME7)

259 Tom Emmer - GOP Legislator Profile - Republicans For Ukraine

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Ah, now it's becoming clearer.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 24, 2023 01:50 PM (RDD2k)

260
grammer and spellign are just white supremacy you rethuglican fascists just want to keep blacks and wimmen down and shoot gays and lesbians none of you is going to escape the peoples justice

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2023 01:50 PM (MoZTd)

261 This attractive woman-not wearing a wet bikini-and not looking like she just ate something unpleasant-had achieved the ability to smile even before she took up modelling:

https://tinyurl.com/ckhavxz7
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 24, 2023 01:49 PM (RSbhh)



This entertains me greatly.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

262 184 I you teach them reading, writing, and arithmetic, then they won't be slaves any longer.
Posted by: Oregon Legislature at October 24, 2023 01:38 PM (gmo/4)

I must admit, the teachers have always struck me as I have gone through life.

In school, it was obvious some were completely useless. Others really loved teaching. Others did not like anyone (least of all kids) but liked the subject.

In school, the proportion seemed about the same, but then you would run into Chem profs who obviously HATED having to teach (for example.) Useless History profs who were complete incompetents. Kindly, absent minded professors from whom I learned a lot. Really cool history profs who taught very well.

Then I looked at the education majors and the proportion of cool/gifted/intelligent dropped like a rock.

But even college profs who hated teaching were in no way as... entitled as a public school teacher who was useless at teaching.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 01:50 PM (zZu0s)

263 "We're at this new normal. So for New York we are saying the new baseline is 2022."

Equity Grading.

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That 40 Leon just got on his math test will be adjusted upward by 60. Where did that 60 come from? It came from the normie white kid's 100. Normie white kid now has a 40 and is marked as failing math while Leon is marked as passing.

Posted by: BifBewalski at October 24, 2023 01:50 PM (3CCua)

264 The really funny part will be for those who *do* have those bunkers, because they won't be able to get them. Even if they do, they will find that ravening peasants can eat them in NZ just as effectively as elsewhere.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:46 PM (d04cU)
----

Even more amusing: those people also believe their pilots won't change their minds in the middle of the Atlantic and toss their employer out of the airplane.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 24, 2023 01:51 PM (z5vMw)

265 Not everybody is a billionaire with a safe compound in New Zealand for when the Burning Times start.

What do all these creeps think is going to happen to them when they succeed in destroying the United State and the rest of Western Civ?


They think that the security force they have defending their compound won't be smart enough to turn the guns on them. They will be wrong.

Posted by: Chuck C at October 24, 2023 01:51 PM (xttsV)

266 This wet bikini brunette that in this country, even "good schools" aren't:
https://is.gd/R6sCIf
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
........

I think she's peeing.

Posted by: wth at October 24, 2023 01:51 PM (v0R5T)

267 eaching a man to fish is racist.
Posted by: Zek at October 24, 2023 01:35 PM (5FPX4)


Why learn to fish when you can go to the store and buy one pre-cut?
Posted by: Average Millennial Graduate

You still pay for anything? How quaint.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 24, 2023 01:51 PM (6XjEr)

268 >>This attractive woman-not wearing a wet bikini-and not looking like she just ate something unpleasant-had achieved the ability to smile even before she took up modelling:

https://tinyurl.com/ckhavxz7


I bet she has a huge bush.

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:51 PM (8+ld9)

269 Forgive me, NGU! Ugh.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:49 PM (Am72j)

Forgive you for what?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 24, 2023 01:51 PM (pVWRI)

270 Somehow this map produces a Democrat Supermajority in the state. Figure out how that is accomplished and either copy it or stop it.

https://tinyurl.com/wa2zjyrw
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2023 01:47 PM (rc3Z7)

--NY State enters the chat

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 24, 2023 01:51 PM (N39Ws)

271 259 Tom Emmer - GOP Legislator Profile - Republicans For Ukraine

--

Ah, now it's becoming clearer.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 24, 2023 01:50 PM (RDD2k)

Funny how every name we pull out of the hat seems to be for the same assholes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 01:51 PM (zZu0s)

272 the fun thing about the Oregon Teachers Standards and Practices commission that licenses teachers is that they are on the second revision of certification requirements in a decade, and are so dysfunctional they are still operating on the original certification template because their online system doesn't work and none of their workers actually can figure out how to do it live because they push was to make everything online.

It is to the point that the school districts should go back to doing their own certification based on competence shown on hiring and performance.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 24, 2023 01:51 PM (xhaym)

273 I drove through a whole bunch of upstate SC this weekend.

Very pretty. Bunch of cute little towns.

A terrible place for yankees because there are churches everywhere and guns.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:33 PM (GBKbO)

Some yanks like guns and God...

Small town life is best life.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:52 PM (xcxpd)

274 Man, y'all are hitting it hard and fast today. I was just getting ready to respond to Darrel Harris in the last thread only to discover that the meter had run out.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2023 01:52 PM (VvPil)

275 A terrible place for yankees because there are churches everywhere and guns.
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And Humidity and mosquitos and rednecks dragging people behind their pickup truck nutz.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:52 PM (naiw2)

276
Oregon Department of Education employees should have to live and work in buildings designed and constructed by those who didn't have to take math proficiency tests.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2023 01:52 PM (MoZTd)

277 102 There needs to be some legitimate solution for getting those with lower IQs caught up at Math to at least _some_ extent.
Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 01:15 PM (sm6Pk)

They've already declared math to be rayciss.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:26 PM (zhLdt)
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Didn't someone propose 'minority math'? Or was that 'minority science'?

Posted by: Ciampino - Idiots and Stoidi at October 24, 2023 01:52 PM (qfLjt)

278 Afternoon.

Jenna Ellis is a spineless piece of shit.

Just The News: Former Trump attorney Jenna Ellis pleads guilty in Georgia 2020 election case

https://tinyurl.com/3bk7xxzc

Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2023 01:52 PM (ODyui)

279 Rest assured this only impacts the lower rung of students to their detriment. People who work with their children and actually want them to achieve at a higher level and succeed in life are going to rule the world. In the process, people determined to wreck the public school system and their supporters will one day blame the "system" for short changing their now ignorant children. Because its always someone else's fault.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 24, 2023 01:52 PM (fOSwK)

280 Excuse me, but isn't this the exact same logic that made it illegal to educate slaves and teach them to read?

Keeping them ignorant makes sure they will require their "betters" to make decisions for them. Lord have mercy, we should risk having someone of color attain the brillance of Thomas Sowell or SCJ Clarence Thomas or Former secretary of state Condelezza Rice! Heavens NO! This would enable them to actually see the truth and become leaders of men.

Can't have that in a world run by Democrats.

Posted by: Sweets at October 24, 2023 01:53 PM (jbPbW)

281 I will say that there do seem to be inherent advantages to massing a tightly grouped population in one small geographic space to amass political power over a much wider area.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:48 PM (GBKbO)

States need their own electoral colleges.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 24, 2023 01:53 PM (BdMk6)

282 "The state of New York is voting to ban ALL natural gas appliances (not just new construction) and decommission natural gas pipelines in the state. It's already passed the senate."

Well, that's more gas for the other states, I guess.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 24, 2023 01:53 PM (ou9hh)

283 Forgive me, NGU! Ugh.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

Forgive you for what?
Posted by: Nevergiveup


He didn't floss after his last meal. I watched him. He faked it.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:53 PM (l8w2w)

284 269 Forgive me, NGU! Ugh.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:49 PM (Am72j)

Forgive you for what?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 24, 2023 01:51 PM (pVWRI)

This:

215 181 I really do not want Emmer as the speaker. We were better off with McCarthy
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 24, 2023 01:37 PM (pVWRI)

McCarthy didn't know enough to follow a clear agreement that he made to become Speaker. If Emmer is smart enough to understand how much the base really hates the GOP and make even token noises against Biden, that will be a major improvement.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:43 PM (Am72j)

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:53 PM (Am72j)

285 >>Just The News: Former Trump attorney Jenna Ellis pleads guilty in Georgia 2020 election case


IF the Prosecutor had the Goods on these people, why is she copping to all of these Plea Deals?

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:53 PM (8+ld9)

286 276
Oregon Department of Education employees should have to live and work in buildings designed and constructed by those who didn't have to take math proficiency tests.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2023 01:52 PM (MoZTd)

Make them walk under their bridges.

Posted by: Lucius Fabricius, of the Pons Fabricius at October 24, 2023 01:53 PM (zZu0s)

287 275 A terrible place for yankees because there are churches everywhere and guns.
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And Humidity and mosquitos and rednecks dragging people behind their pickup truck nutz.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:52 PM (naiw2)

Yankees… good for coming around during warm season..and then Going Away, Pudin..

Posted by: tubal at October 24, 2023 01:53 PM (sdNBG)

288 Afternoon.

Jenna Ellis is a spineless piece of shit.

Just The News: Former Trump attorney Jenna Ellis pleads guilty in Georgia 2020 election case

https://tinyurl.com/3bk7xxzc
Posted by: Robert at October 24, 2023 01:52 PM (ODyui)

Trump can sure pick em ha? Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 24, 2023 01:54 PM (pVWRI)

289 This wet bikini brunette that in this country, even "good schools" aren't:
https://is.gd/R6sCIf
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 24, 2023 01:39 PM (d04cU)

For my math, here is the Afternoon Arterton:

https://is.gd/9pWP5V
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:30 PM (GBKbO)


Sadly, TMJ's entry for the Bangability Sweepstakes has lost.

Joe Mannix wins all you can drink Val-U-Rite Coladas at Ace's next Hobo Hunt.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 24, 2023 01:54 PM (QzZeQ)

290 I bet she has a huge bush.
Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:51 PM (8+ld9)

I am not familiar with the plants outside her house.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 24, 2023 01:54 PM (RSbhh)

291 Old Motto: Keep Portland Weird

New Motto: Don't bother calling 911. You're on your own.
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 24, 2023 01:48 PM (+oR7L)

Also Portland, no you can't get a carry permit.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:54 PM (xcxpd)

292 More generations of feral street rats with a vote.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2023 01:54 PM (Espet)

293 "The state of New York is voting to ban ALL natural gas appliances (not just new construction) and decommission natural gas pipelines in the state. It's already passed the senate."

Well, that's more gas for the other states, I guess.
Posted by: FeatherBlade


What was that about "We're not coming for your gas stove!"?

I wonder how they are going to square that with restaurants? There are no commercial quality electric stoves.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:55 PM (l8w2w)

294 I bet she has a huge bush.
Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:51 PM (8+ld9)
........

That's what our new neighbors from south of the border are for.

Posted by: wth at October 24, 2023 01:55 PM (v0R5T)

295 Being married to someone that teaches science in a NYC school - the teachers that do actually try to teach are basically told that they need to pass the kids that barely show and do nothing in class or they will be given bad evaluations and possibly fired. Yes, the only thing that seems to actually be able to get a union NYC teacher fired is trying to do their job.

Posted by: Ryan Frank at October 24, 2023 01:55 PM (fgmuN)

296 290 I bet she has a huge bush.
Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:51 PM (8+ld9)

I am not familiar with the plants outside her house.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 24, 2023 01:54 PM (RSbhh)

*golfclap*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 01:55 PM (zZu0s)

297 The Chinese ship Newnew Polar Bear has been seen in the Port of Arkhangelsk with its anchor missing.

Finnish investigators suspects it lost the anchor by dragging it into the Balticconnector


They're attacking the upper Chesapeake Bay?

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 24, 2023 01:55 PM (w9Wax)

298 285 IF the Prosecutor had the Goods on these people, why is she copping to all of these Plea Deals?
Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:53 PM (8+ld9)

To make them testify.

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 01:55 PM (sm6Pk)

299 Don't forget the hammer of this anvil:

Suing businesses for racism for not hiring these illiterates the state certified as competent with a diploma.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 24, 2023 01:55 PM (TzW+Y)

300 You can not manage what you can not measure.

Saint Peter Drucker
So endeth the lesson

Posted by: chicagovota at October 24, 2023 01:55 PM (mbH6j)

301 281 I will say that there do seem to be inherent advantages to massing a tightly grouped population in one small geographic space to amass political power over a much wider area.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:48 PM (GBKbO)

States need their own electoral colleges.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 24, 2023 01:53 PM (BdMk6)

Endorsed Doc

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 24, 2023 01:55 PM (xcxpd)

302 Excuse me, but isn't this the exact same logic that made it illegal to educate slaves and teach them to read?

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Yes. Yes it is. Democrats are strong on long-held traditions.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 24, 2023 01:56 PM (BdMk6)

303 >>>It is to the point that the school districts should go back to doing their own certification based on competence shown on hiring and performance.

Posted by: Kindltot
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What do they care? Oregon math teacher, what do you teach?
Doodling.
I make $50.00 a hour.
Oh yeah?
Yeah.
How much is your paycheck?
$200.00. see, I told you.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2023 01:56 PM (VvPil)

304 You can't suspend them for disruption of class now?
Assign the disrupters to 'Study Hall' all day and show them PG movies. And make sure the volume is high so they have to yell to be heard.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

No. They play the Barney song very loud - the same one played to Iraqi prisoners during one of the gulf wars.

If they promise to behave, they get another chance..

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 24, 2023 01:56 PM (mNmNo)

305 Oregon Department of Education employees should have to live and work in buildings designed and constructed by those who didn't have to take math proficiency tests.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2023 01:52 PM (MoZTd)


they all work from home now, almost no one works in the state offices anymore, in Salem. They even abolished individual desks and now only have "visiting desks"
The only people working in the State office buildings are the janitorial staff, the front window staff, mailroom and security.
Oregon government is about a week from not existing at all times. If the telecom or power net goes down there will be no state government.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 24, 2023 01:56 PM (xhaym)

306 Trump can sure pick em ha? Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 24, 2023 01:54 PM (pVWRI)
-

They're attorneys!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 24, 2023 01:56 PM (2ShPH)

307 [Drazan] argued Oregon is chipping away at standards across the board, with state education officials mulling "equity grading" in lieu of the traditional A to F scale.

That's next up - your grade in Oregon will be a function of your skin color.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 24, 2023 01:56 PM (2tUFv)

308 re 'Arterton':

judging by that pic, really not unattractive but not really pretty

to each his own, you guys would probably mock me if you knew who i have the hots for.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (B1FKF)

309 Supporters of the bill say Black and Latino students are disproportionately affected by these suspensions. Research shows that these students are often the ones who suffer a reduced loss of learning and experience higher drop-out rates.

A"reduced loss" of something is a gain, right?

I guess the LA Times writers were educated in a school like this.

Posted by: mikeski at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (22Ba0)

310 293 I wonder how they are going to square that with restaurants? There are no commercial quality electric stoves.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:55 PM (l8w2w)

There will be an exception for the places where the New York Media Apparatchiks and the Wall Street types eat.

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (sm6Pk)

311 Radio news saying Emmer doesn't have the votes.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (63Dwl)

312 Apropos of nothing, I added a new item to my bayonet collection; a Swiss Stgw.57 bayonet. The rifle itself is a grail gun for me that I will likely never get, but I have it's bayonet, just in case.

https://bityl.co/Luvo

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (I8nLU)

313 I bet she has a huge bush.
Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:51 PM (8+ld9)

Nothing a razor can't fix.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (N39Ws)

314 308 re 'Arterton':

judging by that pic, really not unattractive but not really pretty

to each his own, you guys would probably mock me if you knew who i have the hots for.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (B1FKF)

Amy Schumer?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 01:58 PM (Am72j)

315 282 "The state of New York is voting to ban ALL natural gas appliances (not just new construction) and decommission natural gas pipelines in the state. It's already passed the senate."
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Oddly, NY State sits atop two of the largest shale oil deposits in North America. I can only conclude that this is being done to lower the cost of drilling rights for the buyers in Manhattan.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:58 PM (naiw2)

316 >>To make them testify.


I don't buy that at all.
What I do buy is that she has an incredibly weak hand and is relying on Lawfare/ Attrition to grab these incredibly weak Pleas.

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:58 PM (8+ld9)

317 The entire goal is to make people ignorant and willing dependent dupes. That's largely on the parents, not the teachers. They can only get this done if people who are most impacted by it Siam nothing. But enjoy telling people about your kid who is sooper smart because he went to college. Then point out that's him over there with the Hot Pocket stains on his shirt unable to tie his shoes.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 24, 2023 01:58 PM (fOSwK)

318 That 40 Leon just got on his math test will be adjusted upward by 60. Where did that 60 come from? It came from the normie white kid's 100. Normie white kid now has a 40 and is marked as failing math while Leon is marked as passing.
Posted by: BifBewalski at October 24, 2023 01:50 PM (3CCua)


As I understand it, based on the comic that showed the three black people watching a baseball game to which they had not bought tickets, equity means that they will add up all the scores, divide by the number of students, and declare that whatever the result is gets an A.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 01:58 PM (zhLdt)

319 I think I might try to get my hands on this:

https://is.gd/pwDAqX

LEGO Dune Ornithopter. Good media room decor.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

320 298 285 IF the Prosecutor had the Goods on these people, why is she copping to all of these Plea Deals?
Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:53 PM (8+ld9)

To make them testify.

Posted by: XTC
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My testification meter seems to be jamming.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2023 01:58 PM (VvPil)

321 to each his own, you guys would probably mock me if you knew who i have the hots for.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (B1FKF)

Rue McClanahan?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 01:58 PM (zZu0s)

322
Oddly, NY State sits atop two of the largest shale oil deposits in North America. I can only conclude that this is being done to lower the cost of drilling rights for the buyers in Manhattan.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:58 PM (naiw2)


Pennsylvania is going to drink their milkshake.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2023 01:59 PM (MoZTd)

323 Just imagine the amount of education that makes you this dumb. Or evil I'd say

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at October 24, 2023 01:59 PM (UbIz+)

324 @250

>>I will say that there do seem to be inherent advantages to massing a tightly grouped population in one small geographic space to amass political power over a much wider area.

That only explains national and statewide elections, how does that map result in a Democrat Supermajority in the state house and state legislature?

Voting has been spectral in nature for quite some time, regardless of locale.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2023 01:59 PM (rc3Z7)

325 311 Radio news saying Emmer doesn't have the votes.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (63Dwl)

=========

I thought Democrats were going to vote for him.

I was assured that Democrats were going to vote for him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:59 PM (GBKbO)

326 Let's face it: some kids are just not that bright, and as a consequence are slow learners and difficult to teach. In addition to which, they probably have little desire to learn.

We've got to stop letting this crew drag down the learning process for all the other kids.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 24, 2023 01:59 PM (YqDXo)

327 Pennsylvania is going to drink their milkshake.
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You're gonna need a longer straw.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 01:59 PM (naiw2)

328 Powell was charged with a list of Felonies and Pleads to a Misdemeanor?


That is not a scalp any Prosecutor would want to display.

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:59 PM (8+ld9)

329 The state of New York is voting to ban ALL natural gas appliances (not just new construction) and decommission natural gas pipelines in the state. It's already passed the senate."

Well, that's more gas for the other states, I guess.
Posted by: FeatherBlade


What was that about "We're not coming for your gas stove!"?

I wonder how they are going to square that with restaurants? There are no commercial quality electric stoves.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:55 PM (l8w2w)

Let them suffer. Fuck NY.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 24, 2023 01:59 PM (BdMk6)

330 Radio news saying Emmer doesn't have the votes.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (63Dwl)



Dollars to Donuts ( what ever that means lol) the dems will bail him out and push him over the top

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 24, 2023 02:00 PM (pVWRI)

331 What do they care? Oregon math teacher, what do you teach?
Doodling.
[ . . . ]
Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2023 01:56 PM (VvPil)


I may run for school board pinning my vote count on home schoolers. There may be a chance to push greater certification and some property tax relief for home school kids. This sort of shackling of the schools has to be enraging for people who are committed to education.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 24, 2023 02:00 PM (xhaym)

332 they all work from home now, almost no one works in the state offices anymore, in Salem.

"Working from home" is a wonderful new perk that they have no intention of ever giving up.

Some Oregon state employees have moved to places like Texas, and they wanted the State to pick up their travel expenses if they ever had to attend a meeting in person.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 24, 2023 02:00 PM (2tUFv)

333 @322

>>Pennsylvania is going to drink their milkshake.

Until I moved to PA I didn't realize that Pa has their own version of Cali's Air Resource Board.

They are currently in the process or re-writing all of the regs, I don't expect anything good resulting from it.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2023 02:00 PM (rc3Z7)

334 325 311 Radio news saying Emmer doesn't have the votes.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (63Dwl)

=========

I thought Democrats were going to vote for him.

I was assured that Democrats were going to vote for him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 01:59 PM (GBKbO)

Soros backed!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 02:01 PM (zZu0s)

335 Trump can sure pick em ha? Sigh

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Everyone here will feign surprise when someone not picked by Trump stabs us in the back.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 02:01 PM (zhLdt)

336 The only inaccuracy in Idiocracy was that elections would happen and professional wrestlers would win them.

__________________

Oh, give it a little time

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 24, 2023 02:01 PM (NtVYv)

337 Board Chair Guadalupe Martinez Zapata

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Oregon State Board of Education Members (of the nine seats -- one is vacant -- seven of the eight members are female ... UNEXPECTEDLY!):

https://tinyurl.com/34dhp25r

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 24, 2023 02:01 PM (znVTO)

338 322 Pennsylvania is going to drink their milkshake.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2023 01:59 PM (MoZTd)

With a Demoncrat governor, a Demoncrat Supreme Court, and a Demoncrat house?

They're more likely to try to go with an even bigger ban to show New York up.

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 02:01 PM (sm6Pk)

339 A Moron mentioned that NY is going to decommission the NG pipelines, even the ones that supply the New England states.

The NE states should invade NY over this.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 24, 2023 02:01 PM (I8nLU)

340 I wonder how they are going to square that with restaurants? There are no commercial quality electric stoves.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 01:55 PM (l8w2w)
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Propane Tanks? Wood or coal fired stoves?

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 02:01 PM (naiw2)

341 We just need to give more money to the schools. For the childrens.

Posted by: ... at October 24, 2023 02:01 PM (YjQiV)

342 I never liked Roseanne's sitcoms much, and I never listened to her speak at length before today. That bitch is BASED.

Also, the rare woman on earth who looks more attractive as an old crone than in her youth, which was also the last time I saw her.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 24, 2023 02:01 PM (0FoWg)

343 Idiocracy was a pipe dream.

Posted by: ... at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (YjQiV)

344 There are reasons that blacks and Latinos can’t read, wrote Or do math

Posted by: Gonzotx at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (MwHgU)

345 New York. Another physically beautiful state ruled over by jackasses who live in cities.


Posted by: Archer at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (gmo/4)

346
This isn't going to reduce inequality. Tiger moms and status-conscious striver parents will send their kids to private schools, get tutors, whatever it takes to get their little scions into the Ivies or Stanford.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (MoZTd)

347 to each his own, you guys would probably mock me if you knew who i have the hots for.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (B1FKF)

Rue McClanahan?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 01:58 PM (zZu0s)

Lizzo?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (BdMk6)

348 remember billy dale? ran the white house travel office, clinton(s) fired him in 1993 claimed he did whatever they claimed, he tried to make a deal for three months in jail, gov't demanded two years, they went to trial, jury takes two hours to find dale not guilty on all six charges.

dale's legal bill: $500 thousand.

that's why you make a deal sometimes

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (B1FKF)

349 I wonder how they are going to square that with restaurants? There are no commercial quality electric stoves.

Berkeley banned gas stoves, and then made an exception for fancy high-end restaurants.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (2tUFv)

350 The entire goal is to make people ignorant and willing dependent dupes. That's largely on the parents, not the teachers. They can only get this done if people who are most impacted by it Siam nothing. But enjoy telling people about your kid who is sooper smart because he went to college. Then point out that's him over there with the Hot Pocket stains on his shirt unable to tie his shoes.
Posted by: Marcus T


I kerp asking and can't get an answer. How do you make people dependent on government when half don't qualify?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (l8w2w)

351 So, what is the ugliest state?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

352 There is going to be a group of adults who were home schooled.
A group of adults who were private schooled.
And a group of adults who were public schooled.

It will be interesting.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (VvPil)

353 to each his own, you guys would probably mock me if you knew who i have the hots for.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (B1FKF)


We'd be happy to mock you for other things as well.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (zhLdt)

354 Everyone here will feign surprise when someone not picked by Trump stabs us in the back.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 02:01 PM (zhLdt)

At this point, I think anyone who stabs us in the back does not get surprise so much as that sinking 'Oh, and this asshole' kind of thing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 02:03 PM (zZu0s)

355 I see nothing wrong with these new proficiency standards.

Posted by: John Fetterman at October 24, 2023 02:03 PM (YjQiV)

356 355 I see nothing wrong with these new proficiency standards.
Posted by: John Fetterman at October 24, 2023 02:03 PM (YjQiV)

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*this post was written by his staff

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 02:03 PM (GBKbO)

357 So, what is the ugliest state?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

Mass

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 24, 2023 02:03 PM (CIS44)

358
Out: No Child Left Behind
In: Every Child Left Behind

Posted by: ... at October 24, 2023 02:03 PM (YjQiV)

359 I wonder how they are going to square that with restaurants? There are no commercial quality electric stoves.

Berkeley banned gas stoves, and then made an exception for fancy high-end restaurants.
Posted by: The ARC of History!


New york state is removing gas lines. Doesn't sound likethere will be exemptions.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 02:04 PM (l8w2w)

360 353 to each his own, you guys would probably mock me if you knew who i have the hots for.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (B1FKF)

We'd be happy to mock you for other things as well.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (zhLdt)

Why hate someone based on the color of their skin, when if you take the time to really get to know them, there are so many other reasons to hate them?
-Dennis Miller

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 02:04 PM (zZu0s)

361 308 to each his own, you guys would probably mock me if you knew who i have the hots for.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (B1FKF)

You know Dylan Mulvaney still has his penis, right?

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 02:04 PM (sm6Pk)

362 >>Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (B1FKF)


Exactly.

They want to give the impression that they Plead to the Crimes they were accused of...

not that they could not afford to defend themselves against baseless accusation.

This is the very Definition of Prosecutorial Abuse.

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 02:04 PM (8+ld9)

363 268 >>This attractive woman-not wearing a wet bikini-and not looking like she just ate something unpleasant-had achieved the ability to smile even before she took up modelling:
https://tinyurl.com/ckhavxz7

I bet she has a huge bush.
Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 01:51 PM

Nowadays, you're winning if she doesn't have a huge dick.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 24, 2023 02:04 PM (BN6WR)

364 Owen Gregorian @OwenGregorian 4h
Brace yourself: TikTok is testing 15-minute videos

TikTok confirmed that it's testing out 15-minute video uploads to TechCrunch on Monday, following reports from some users who had started receiving notifications about the new feature.

Social media consultant Matt Navarra shared a screenshot from TikTok in a Threads post, with the title "Upload longer videos".

"Upload videos up to 15 minutes long!" reads the notification. "Make sure your app is up-to-date, then try uploading from your app or desktop on tiktok dot com."

TikTok has been slowly creeping up its video upload length for a while now. Originally home to 15 second videos, the app eventually increased this to a minute, then three minutes, and most recently 10 minutes in Feb. 2022.

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 4h
China is doing an excellent job of raising American children to be non-competitive.

Now go play some pickleball with your Chinese-made paddles and balls.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 24, 2023 02:04 PM (krqg6)

365 So, what is the ugliest state?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (GBKbO)


Delaware. When Joe visits. Which is too often.

Posted by: Archer at October 24, 2023 02:04 PM (gmo/4)

366 357 So, what is the ugliest state?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

Mass
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NJ

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 02:04 PM (naiw2)

367
That 40 Leon just got on his math test will be adjusted upward by 60.

And Leon is getting smarter!

Posted by: Johnny at October 24, 2023 02:04 PM (63Dwl)

368 357 So, what is the ugliest state?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

Mass
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 24, 2023 02:03 PM (CIS44)

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I figured it'd be something like Delaware or Rhode Island, and then I remembered that Rhode Island isn't real.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 24, 2023 02:04 PM (GBKbO)

369 "I kerp asking and can't get an answer. How do you make people dependent on government when half don't qualify?"

I'm right here you know.

Posted by: Stalin at October 24, 2023 02:04 PM (fOSwK)

370 So, if I am an employer in Oregon and the state is telling me that then I can legally not hire them for a job because they are too stupid to learn the job? Good to know.
________________

The military already does that by refusing to take recruits with IQs of 83 and below.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 24, 2023 02:05 PM (YqDXo)

371 to each his own, you guys would probably mock me if you knew who i have the hots for.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (B1FKF)

Rue McClanahan?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 01:58 PM (zZu0s)

Lizzo?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons


MRS. CLEAVER???

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 02:05 PM (l8w2w)

372 Out: No Child Left Behind
In: Every Child Left Behind
Posted by: ... at Oc

Which would mean that none were left behind. WOAH.
-Bill S Preston, Esq and Ted Theodore Logan

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 24, 2023 02:05 PM (CIS44)

373 >> So, what is the ugliest state?


Sobriety.

Posted by: garrett at October 24, 2023 02:05 PM (8+ld9)

374 you guys would probably mock me if you knew who i have the hots for.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (B1FKF)



At one time I was hot for Janeane Garofalo. I think my first post here was to confess that.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 24, 2023 02:05 PM (I8nLU)

375 The way the world is going...

It's pretty clear that this is what happens when people reject God and decide they know better. And God says, "Ok, then do it on your own. BTW: I will leave you alone because you want Me to... but Satan isn't so nice. He will still work there, harder than ever... good luck!"

Yeah, not working out too well.

Posted by: GanGanowicz at October 24, 2023 02:05 PM (AxRGS)

376 The new subnormal.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 24, 2023 02:05 PM (YqDXo)

377 Some Oregon state employees have moved to places like Texas, and they wanted the State to pick up their travel expenses if they ever had to attend a meeting in person.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 24, 2023 02:00 PM (2tUFv)


that is a huge fight, though, the agencies I have information on are not allowing staff to live outside of the state. They are allowed to visit or go on vacation out of state, but not live. One lady visited family in MN for a couple of weeks, but got grilled about if she was moving there.

However, I suspect these sorts of rules are relaxed for upper management. Along with all those other rules that seem to be less important for the important.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 24, 2023 02:06 PM (xhaym)

378 So, what is the ugliest state?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason

Confusion !

Posted by: JT at October 24, 2023 02:06 PM (T4tVD)

379 "The only people working in the State office buildings are the janitorial staff, the front window staff, mailroom and security.
Oregon government is about a week from not existing at all times. If the telecom or power net goes down there will be no state government."


Tings that make you go "hmmmmmm......."

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 24, 2023 02:06 PM (ou9hh)

380
No. They play the Barney song very loud - the same one played to Iraqi prisoners during one of the gulf wars.

If they promise to behave, they get another chance..
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

I wasn't trying to drive them to suicide...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 24, 2023 02:06 PM (6XjEr)

381 Oregon State Board of Education Members (of the nine seats -- one is vacant -- seven of the eight members are female ... UNEXPECTEDLY!):

And three of the seven are black.

Oregon is a two percent black state, and it is typical to have one or two blacks on every state-appointed commission in Oregon.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 24, 2023 02:06 PM (2tUFv)

382 At one time I was hot for Janeane Garofalo. I think my first post here was to confess that.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 24, 2023 02:05 PM (I8nLU)

Damn. That is a hard one to top.

I am thinking if someone spanked it to Hillary or Margret Cho...

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 02:06 PM (zZu0s)

383 Oh dear. Blue state little comrades aren't going to college. Comrade mommy is going to need more wine and some extra spanking from the pool boy.

Posted by: MadamMayhem at October 24, 2023 02:07 PM (ZRxtq)

384 re 340: no one really needs to eat at restaurants. there will probably be exceptions in places where the elite meet to eat and discuss thing like climate change and world hunger.

and no, not lizzo, for chrissake. i might be delusional but i'm not blind. just someone too young and way out of my league.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 02:07 PM (B1FKF)

385 to each his own, you guys would probably mock me if you knew who i have the hots for.

Posted by: gnats local 678

= =

It can be our little secret.

Posted by: Rahida Tlaib at October 24, 2023 02:07 PM (AD14M)

386 Some teachers have been pressing for tests to be "re-normed" so that students can pass at a lower level than in previous years, reflecting their learning loss.

RE-NORMZZZZ Status:

[X] Jungle Love

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 24, 2023 02:07 PM (Wk+J3)

387 This accomplishes one thing: economic inequality.

I'm all for it.

Posted by: MJ at October 24, 2023 02:07 PM (zwDuR)

388 So we're spending more than ever on education and the test scores are falling. People should start asking individual teachers why they shouldn't take the blame. If it's a union problem, and they are part of the union, then they are the problem.

Posted by: TC at October 24, 2023 02:07 PM (FjlUt)

389 374 you guys would probably mock me if you knew who i have the hots for.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM (B1FKF)


At one time I was hot for Janeane Garofalo. I think my first post here was to confess that.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 24, 2023 02:05 PM (I8nLU)

Nothing to be ashamed of. Peak Garofalo was The Truth About Cats and Dogs.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 02:07 PM (Am72j)

390 So, what is the ugliest state?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

Mass
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 24, 2023 02:03 PM (CIS44)


It's probably the case that, by surface area, more of Rhode Island is literally a toilet than any other state.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 02:07 PM (zhLdt)

391
Ugliest as in not scenic or ugliest as in the greatest concentration of assholes? If the latter, Massachusetts runs away with it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2023 02:07 PM (MoZTd)

392 Jenna Ellis, what a c*nt.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at October 24, 2023 02:07 PM (57chq)

393 A person with seven felonies sheds tears as she is sentenced a misdemeanor. The amount of pressure the fucking judge can put on someone to leak like a soap opera damsel is not something I would want to be tested by. That judge is not interested in guilt, innocence, or any matter of the heart. Only the cameras.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 24, 2023 02:08 PM (44ww/)

394 So, what is the ugliest state?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, at Camp Crystal Lake with Jason at October 24, 2023 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

Mass
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 24, 2023 02:03 PM


Wait, whut?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 24, 2023 02:08 PM (aQy7p)

395 re 382: i thought she was kind of cute way back when. then she got all tattooed and stupid.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 02:08 PM (B1FKF)

396 I love the logic: if you have a problem, ignore it, define it away, or change the standard. Then ... no more problem. It's magic!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 24, 2023 02:08 PM (YqDXo)

397 just someone too young and way out of my league.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 02:07 PM (B1FKF)


Chloe Grace Moretz?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 24, 2023 02:08 PM (I8nLU)

398 It is not about North or South or geography in general, it is about the small towns. What really drove that home for me was driving through West Virginia and flashing back to driving through Vermont. Same terrain, small towns, some touristy, some made up almost entirely of mobile homes. Also, western NC is very similar to western MA.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 24, 2023 02:09 PM (2cS/G)

399 308
to each his own, you guys would probably mock me if you knew who i have the hots for.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM

Most people have a crush on me, so no real surprise, but I'm a married woman, so you have to move on.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at October 24, 2023 02:09 PM (BN6WR)

400 "That's the euphemism for passing students who are actually failures and should be held back just to keep them in their social group ..."[\i]

Ah, the vaunted "socialization" that all the children need and would never get while being homeschooled. Ah.

Posted by: Question authority bumper sticker at October 24, 2023 02:09 PM (Rbu5d)

401 to each his own, you guys would probably mock me if you knew who i have the hots for.
Posted by: gnats


gnats proudly announces his upcoming nuptials with Miss Triggly (nee) Puff

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 24, 2023 02:09 PM (w9Wax)

402 I never liked Roseanne's sitcoms much, and I never listened to her speak at length before today. That bitch is BASED.

Also, the rare woman on earth who looks more attractive as an old crone than in her youth, which was also the last time I saw her.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 24, 2023 02:01 PM (0FoWg)


she was put through the wringer and then quick-fried. It is the sort of thing that knocks the scales off. She started her journey by having Trump call her names on Twitter, and then got dogpiled and cancelled by the left because she didn't have the current update on who was untouchable.

She looks like someone's grandma that goes out to tell the kids how to run the backhoe.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 24, 2023 02:09 PM (xhaym)

Posted by: Question authority bumper sticker at October 24, 2023 02:09 PM (Rbu5d)

404 384 and no, not lizzo, for chrissake. i might be delusional but i'm not blind. just someone too young and way out of my league.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 02:07 PM (B1FKF)

Greta Thunberg, eh?

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2023 02:09 PM (sm6Pk)

405 Most people have a crush on me, so no real surprise, but I'm a married woman, so you have to move on.
Posted by: Lena Dunham at October 24, 2023 02:09 PM (BN6WR)

You're blocking our way.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 02:09 PM (zZu0s)

406 398 It is not about North or South or geography in general, it is about the small towns. What really drove that home for me was driving through West Virginia and flashing back to driving through Vermont. Same terrain, small towns, some touristy, some made up almost entirely of mobile homes. Also, western NC is very similar to western MA.
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 24, 2023 02:09 PM (2cS/G)

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I now live in one of those small towns. Smallest place I've ever lived (biggest house, though).

I hope I enjoy it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at October 24, 2023 02:09 PM (GBKbO)

407 Peak Garofalo was The Truth About Cats and Dogs.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 02:07 PM (Am72j)


Yesss, or Mystery Men.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 24, 2023 02:10 PM (I8nLU)

408 Garofalo was The Truth About Cats and Dogs.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 24, 2023 02:07 PM (Am72j)
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Yep. Then she went loony and started living in a tattoo parlor.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 24, 2023 02:10 PM (z5vMw)

409 Jenna Ellis has pled out in the Georgia election fraud case. The charge was "aiding and abetting false statements and writings."

https://tinyurl.com/yh84zpfp

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 24, 2023 02:10 PM (sWM8x)

410 Confusion !
Posted by: JT at October 24, 2023 02:06 PM (T4tVD)
-

It's "Confusion says," not "Confusion states."

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 24, 2023 02:10 PM (2ShPH)

411 "Tiger moms and status-conscious striver parents will send their kids to private schools, get tutors, whatever it takes to get their little scions into the Ivies or Stanford."

Where all that effort will be completely wasted/

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 24, 2023 02:10 PM (ou9hh)

412 Ugliest as in not scenic or ugliest as in the greatest concentration of assholes? If the latter, Massachusetts runs away with it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2023 02:07 PM (MoZTd)
_________________

Are there any left there? I thought they'd all moved to California by now. As a case in point: our newest neighbor? From Boston.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 24, 2023 02:10 PM (YqDXo)

413 Nood. More shame heaped upon our once glorious republic.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 24, 2023 02:11 PM (zhLdt)

414 Yep. Then she went loony and started living in a tattoo parlor.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 24, 2023 02:10 PM (z5vMw)

This is about me isn't it?
-Bonnie Rotten

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 24, 2023 02:11 PM (CIS44)

415 People should start asking individual teachers why they shouldn't take the blame. If it's a union problem, and they are part of the union, then they are the problem.
Posted by: TC
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I've contemplated a bumper sticker, 'If Your Child Can't Read This, Blame a teacher'.

I think that it is also necessary to observe that many teachers are bound up in this system that has evolved. And, I believe that the same is true of many, if not most, medical people.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 24, 2023 02:11 PM (XeU6L)

416 >The military already does that by refusing to take recruits with IQs of 83 and below.


I had an MOS that required a 110 IQ. It seemed to me that there were a high number of people who got in before me, 2005-2008 maybe ,who were no where near the mark.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 24, 2023 02:11 PM (44ww/)

417 It is not about North or South or geography in general, it is about the small towns. What really drove that home for me was driving through West Virginia and flashing back to driving through Vermont. Same terrain, small towns, some touristy, some made up almost entirely of mobile homes. Also, western NC is very similar to western MA.
Posted by: Lincolntf


Small town = Post Office. No mayor, no city council, no pd, no fire, no stop light.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 02:12 PM (l8w2w)

418 Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 24, 2023 02:10 PM (sWM8x)

It wasn't just her plead-out. She also had to make an ORANGEMANBAD statement. Because of corse the narcissistic bitch did.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at October 24, 2023 02:12 PM (57chq)

419 she was put through the wringer and then quick-fried. It is the sort of thing that knocks the scales off. She started her journey by having Trump call her names on Twitter, and then got dogpiled and cancelled by the left because she didn't have the current update on who was untouchable.
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I don't recall Trump picking on Roseanne. Maybe that fat chick Rosie O'Donnell is who you were thinking of.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2023 02:12 PM (naiw2)

420 https://tinyurl.com/yh84zpfp
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 24, 2023 02:10 PM (sWM8x)
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WTF does that even mean?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 24, 2023 02:12 PM (z5vMw)

421 "That's the euphemism for passing students who are actually failures and should be held back just to keep them in their social group ..."[\i]

Ah, the vaunted "socialization" that all the children need and would never get while being homeschooled. Ah.
Posted by: Question authority bumper sticker at October 24, 2023 02:09 PM (Rbu5d)
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The ones being kept back can always get socialization in prison.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 24, 2023 02:13 PM (YqDXo)

422 I've contemplated a bumper sticker, 'If Your Child Can't Read This, Blame a teacher'.

I think that it is also necessary to observe that many teachers are bound up in this system that has evolved. And, I believe that the same is true of many, if not most, medical people.
Posted by: Mike Hammer


How do you get the parent to read it to the kid?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 24, 2023 02:14 PM (l8w2w)

423 This attractive woman-not wearing a wet bikini-and not looking like she just ate something unpleasant-had achieved the ability to smile even before she took up modelling:

https://tinyurl.com/ckhavxz7


I bet she has a huge bush.

Posted by: garrett

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(clicks the link entirely because I discovered women when that was in style)

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 24, 2023 02:14 PM (RDD2k)

424
Where all that effort will be completely wasted/
Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 24, 2023 02:10 PM (ou9hh)


No, they'll have The Diploma. Places like that are like Britain's Oxbridge or France's Grande écoles, highly competitive institutions that churn out elite graduates who go forth to ruin the country.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2023 02:14 PM (MoZTd)

425 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 24, 2023 02:15 PM (Zz0t1)

426 308 to each his own, you guys would probably mock me if you knew who i have the hots for.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 24, 2023 01:57 PM
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Are there no opportunities for you to date someone of your own station?

Posted by: The Imperial AOC at October 24, 2023 02:15 PM (sWM8x)

427 "social advancement." That's the euphemism for passing students who are actually failures and should be held back just to keep them in their social group (and to keep parents from noticing that "educators" are failing to educate).

Case study: Nephew and niece, born three weeks apart. They're both 15. He goes to a small-town public school in Iowa, she goes to a Christian school in Kansas City. She got held back a grade while they worked for a few months figuring out her learning disability, he's sailed through the grades without a speedbump. And if it came down to an academic faceoff, I'd choose her. She has teachers that CARE and is turning into a lovely well-rounded individual, whereas he routinely gets benched for mouthing off to the baseball coach. I love them both, but she's going to come out ahead in life.

(And before you say "But money!" Iowa just implemented ESAs, which the nephew qualifies for, but his parents won't switch him to the local Christian high school.)

Posted by: pookysgirl, pushing private/religious education at October 24, 2023 02:18 PM (dtlDP)

428 Let the Dept. Of Education fund the gangs since they will be the instructors to this new class of chilluns.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 24, 2023 02:20 PM (hirWM)

429 Two weeks ago, sitting at lunch with some peeps.

Discussing Middle East - US history since WW2 or so....

I say in a sentence "...Beirut..."

The 17-year-old (due to graduate next spring) sitting next to me says, "What's Beirut?"

And trust me, this is kid is intelligent and perceptive - a very fine young man, and I've told him numerous times that he CAN NOT trust his education to his educators.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 24, 2023 02:21 PM (MkuC5)

430 For California, which has been circling the drain for decades, by all means don't suspend or expel those special students. Just concentrate them in one or two classrooms. Then mark them proficient for literature for LARPing Lord of the Flies. And concentrating them in one or two classrooms will prep them for their eventual time in the California Penal System. If the DAs actually charge them

Posted by: Stacy0311 at October 24, 2023 02:22 PM (uqyzO)

431 At one time I was hot for Janeane Garofalo. I think my first post here was to confess that.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 24, 2023 02:05 PM (I8nLU)

Damn. That is a hard one to top.

I am thinking if someone spanked it to Hillary or Margret Cho...
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 24, 2023 02:06 PM (zZu0s)


Eh, early on, she wasn't a gargoyle and had a kind of cutish nerd girl thing going.

But, then she quickly remedied all that.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 24, 2023 02:22 PM (QzZeQ)

432 "Students" of color. Oregon has 6 or 7 black kids. Whitest state even more than Vermont.

Posted by: free tibet at October 24, 2023 02:26 PM (iNp3L)

433 Response: no one should hire anyone with a NY or OR HS diploma.

(Cue the next poster or COB whining about why The Only Jobs That Matter are increasingly not to be found in this country. Manufacturing in this country is typically high-end with no toleration of fuck-ups. If HS diplomas are extra meaningless, why hire people and set up shop here?
Oh, Because Patriotism. My bad.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 24, 2023 02:27 PM (8sMut)

434 I need to send this post to the HS I worked at. Doubtless many of the counselors will see nothing wrong with anything here.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 24, 2023 02:30 PM (8sMut)

435 Are POC also disproportionately affected when they discover that they are now adults without any useful skills, or nah? Or, when the ones who care have their educational opportunity destroyed to save their disruptive peers from any accountability?

Posted by: Tink at October 24, 2023 02:32 PM (B6Rux)

436 Amish educate to the 8th grade. Then the separation of intelligent and 'others'. Intelligent go on to run businesses. Others are farmers and laborers.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 24, 2023 02:34 PM (hirWM)

437 I'm all for purging the lunatic Left from the bureaucracy, but this whole article smells like an attempt to make Biden look like a reasonable pragmatist. Obama and his gay lovers in the press did this all the time. "There are some who want to throw Hamas parties and let them kill all the Jews, but our strong, moderate President is bravely steering a more pragmatic approach."

More horseshit from the Media-Bureaucracy Complex.

Posted by: Wally at October 24, 2023 02:41 PM (hqVaF)

438 That’s an amazingly racist statement by these Blue states. “Blacks aren’t achieving on these tests and will NEVER achieve on these tests, so we are giving up.”

Posted by: Eternity Matters at October 24, 2023 02:53 PM (OAOcb)

439 The good news is that this stuff will drive 100% of Asian parent heavily "rightward"

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at October 24, 2023 03:08 PM (KC3P2)

440 "Supporters of the bill say Black and Latino students are disproportionately affected by these suspensions."


Just spitballin' here, but maybe that's because they are disproportionately defiant and disruptive?

Posted by: Butch at October 24, 2023 03:23 PM (0APJ3)

441 A story to give you some perspective on how all of this actually plays out in blue states:

When I lived in Los Angeles 20 years ago, everybody we met asked if me and my wife were planning to send our kids to public school. We didn't have any kids, we explained, but we eventually hoped to.

"When you do, DON'T send your kids to public school!" was the consistent message we got from EVERYBODY. These weren't rich people telling us this -- these were middle and working class people. The overwhelming consensus from everybody was that public schools were useless and sending your kids to one was tantamount to child abuse. Every family that cared about their kids' education sent their kids to private school, no matter what their income level or how much they had to scrimp and save to afford it.

The impression I got was that "public schools" in blue states are the equivalent of "public transportation" in much of the rest of the country -- the choice of last resort, something only used by people who literally have no other option. The notion that a "public school" might be high quality was an alien concept. And again, this was 20 years ago -- I imagine it's much worse now.

Posted by: Ex-liberal at October 24, 2023 03:47 PM (XdH1u)

442 LOL

What a shitshow. All this trouble to get rid of RINO 1 only to replace him with RINO 2.

Posted by: Montec at October 24, 2023 03:51 PM (bWsRe)

443 Whining little liberals give even more reason for Home Schooling

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at October 24, 2023 04:41 PM (wGqjj)

444 If I'm missing the sarcasm I apologize. But part of the game to get stupid white liberals to go along with these things is to claim that it's about helping minorities. So taking that a face value and not calling them out for the liars they are. Only gives them cover to continue destroying the education system so now even white kids won't be able to read.

Posted by: blkemoji at October 24, 2023 11:21 PM (az7Dh)

445 Schenectady, NY is ~70% white and ~10% black. So if no eighth grader who took the math test scored as proficient. That means White kids can't do eighth grader math.

I am not saying there isn't problems in the black community. But for all you people that acted like this was a "black thing" welcome to the real world. Teachers as a group aren't interested in educating Kids. Don't fall for press on that "good teacher" that really cares. They want your kids illiterate and innumerate, then they will blame a lack of money. But I'm telling you right now, no matter how much money you give them it won't get better.

Posted by: blkemoji at October 24, 2023 11:34 PM (az7Dh)

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