LOL: Victoria's Secret Figures Out That "Body Diversity" Isn't the Fantasy People Are Looking for in Budoir Attire

Although, as many have pointed out, this is another case of "going broke, so let's try woke." Victoria's Secret was in a major decline so they decided to remake their brand as the underwear for obese transgenders.

And then they went more broke.

Weird how that didn't work out.

Lingerie chain Victoria's Secret is reportedly ditching its woke, feminist makeover of recent years as it hasn't translated to business success.
Since the brand decided to move away from its "hyper-sexualized" image -- as BusinessOfFashion.com described it in a recent article -- Victoria's Secret has seen a significant revenue drop.
As such, it has looked to revamp itself and bring back "sexiness," the outlet noted in a piece that was also published by editorial partner CNN on Tuesday.
Cathaleen Chen reported that the brand's efforts to promote inclusivity -- which included making LGBTQ pro women's soccer player and outspoken leftist Megan Rapinoe, as well as a transgender woman, brand spokesmodels and getting rid of its famous "Angels" supermodels -- gained "favorable reviews from online critics [but] never translated into sales."

Really? You don't say?

That's weird, nothing like that ever happens in movies. Or comic books. Or video games. Or any other business that panders to the woke left.

According to the numbers, the lingerie brand's projected revenue for 2023 is $6.2 billion, which is 5% lower than it was last year, and even lower than 2020, when the brand's revenue was $7.5 billion.
The drop in Victoria's Secret's sales also followed the company's move to make its board of directors mostly female.

Again, you don't say. You don't say. Picking directors based on their vagina-havingness and not on their experience and record results in losing money? You don't say.

This is really eye-opening. Do go on. I've got my notepad out and I'm scribbling like a fiend.

In 2021, Rapinoe called out what the brand had been before the revamp, claiming it had sent out a "really harmful" message that was "patriarchal, sexist, viewing not just what it meant to be sexy but what the clothes were trying to accomplish through a male lens and through what men desired."
"And it was very much marketed toward younger women," the U.S. Women's soccer star added at the time.

Wait wait wait wait -- now you're telling me that abandoning your business model to do what a pink-haired angry woke lesbian extremist tells you to do was a bad move?

A woman who represents about 0.1% of the country doesn't have her smelly fingers on the pulse of the nation?

I'm learning so much!

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In the fashion outlet, Chen noted that the lingerie company's attempt to stop the financial drain body-positive marketing was causing was to bring back its runway show format, and blend the sexiness the brand had become famous for with some of its more inclusive initiatives.
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Chief executive Martin Waters also reportedly admitted that the inclusivity initiatives were not profitable for the company, stating, "Despite everyone's best endeavors, it's not been enough to carry the day."
According to BusinessOfFashion, the company's new goal is to "Improve profitability and cross back over $7 billion in annual sales." To meet this objective, the brand plans to roll out activewear and swimwear, update its existing stores and open up 400 new ones outside the United States.
Victoria's Secret did not immediately respond to Fox Business' request for comment.

Okay, here's what I can teach Victoria's Secret:

Your brand is dead. You will continue losing money year-over-year until you are forced to sell the much-diminished brand-name to a fly-by-night internet vendor at which point it becomes a zombie brand barely surviving on nostalgia fumes.

As they always say in business: It takes 10x as much money to get a new customer as it takes to merely keep the existing customers happy. In every woke "business" makeover, you intentionally alienate all of your existing customers to chase new customers, spending 10x more to attract this new supposedly more-desirable customer base than it would have cost you to excite the existing one. When the new "woke" customers do not come -- they never do -- you now have to spend 20x more to try to attract back your old customers.

But why would they come back? During this period they have either stopped buying the kind of products you sell entirely, and thus do not need your services, or have bought similar products from non-woke vendors, in which case they also do not need your services.

All of your old, undesirable customers remember that you decided that they were old and undesirable, and told them you did not want to sell to them any longer, and only wanted to sell to a new, more desirable (LOL) diverse customer base made up exclusively of People of Color, People of Size, and People of Made-Up Genders.

Why would they come back?

The woke death spiral is an irreversible one. You destroy all goodwill in your brand, and then you decide to try to dig yourself out of a hole of bad will.

It is cheaper just to start an entirely new brand where you start at zero instead of in a hole you have to dig out of.

Doesn't matter, though. Because even if you start a brand new company and build up customer goodwill -- we will be right back here in four years after you blow up your new company up with destructive woke anti-marketing again.

Barack Fucking Obama did not change human nature. Spike Lee is an ignorant midget clown and was completely wrong when he said that society would henceforth be divided into two periods, "Before Obama" and "After Obama."

You fucking maniacs continue huffing Obama's unicorn farts and acting as if garbage suddenly became gold just because Obama said "Hey we should pretend garbage is gold and see how that works out."

And they'll keep doing this, and keep going bankrupt, because they are committed Marxist ideologues.

Case in point: Australian Maxim, formerly a "ladmag" written for men with men's interests in mind, just published their list of the "100 Hottest Women."

For some definitions of "women." Of course they included a shman.

In the 92nd spot on the list, Maxim Australia included Dani Laidley, a transgender woman. Laidley was a coach in the Australian Football League before transitioning in 2020.
Laidley's inclusion on the list sparked criticism from many social media users.

#92 of top 100 hottest 'women' in the world according to Maxim magazine in Australia

How did we get to a point where companies/institutions/publications can do this with no fear of backlash? pic.twitter.com/GBhJAIzzLY
— Riley Gaines (@Riley_Gaines_) October 19, 2023

Wow! What a hottie! She's a real looker, a five-alarm fire!

You know what I look for in a woman? A chin with the angularity and heft of a feller ax. I like a gal who can give me a beej and work out a charlie-horse in my thigh simultaneously.

Also I like big shoulders and arms, so she can hold me tight and protect me from the great big scary world at night.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:30 PM

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1 Victoria's Secret turned itself into Gertrudes Rant.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 19, 2023 04:32 PM (EZLuO)

2 Wait. Maxim Magazine still exists in any form?

Will the AU version of the magazine feature the Hottest Abo Ever?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 19, 2023 04:33 PM (J2vNu)

3 Laidley was a coach in the Australian Football League before transitioning in 2020.
_________

In American football, we only have two-point conversions, not two sex conversions.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 19, 2023 04:34 PM (lf83v)

4 That Australian thing isn't so fair dinkum

Posted by: Drc at October 19, 2023 04:35 PM (vbaSG)

5 Well you can divide the country into before and after Obama. He got that fundamental change rolling

Posted by: steevy at October 19, 2023 04:35 PM (FQmDC)

6 'decided to move away from its "hyper-sexualized" image'

Hypersexuals. Every day brings some new absurdity.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at October 19, 2023 04:35 PM (MvF+J)

7 Give back our hotties!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 19, 2023 04:35 PM (xcxpd)

8 Probably too late for the brand.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 19, 2023 04:35 PM (N1DT3)

9 penis or vagina? it's just swings and roundabouts, mate

Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 04:35 PM (KRtlO)

10 Hey Martin Waters! Kick back and don't worry. Grab a Bud Light and put a Star Wars Chick Empowerment on the TV.

May as well, since your business is being Rapinoed and there is not much you can now do to fix it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 19, 2023 04:37 PM (fnAb4)

11 Victoria's Secret=Les Wexner=Jeffrey Epstein=oh, nevermind...

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at October 19, 2023 04:37 PM (MZ+PY)

12 I wondered where Lola had ended up after Soho. Looks like it's #92.

Posted by: Roy at October 19, 2023 04:38 PM (rqgpJ)

13 This is something that I don't quite understand.

External fashion is for women. Men literally don't care if you're wearing Versaci or Gucci or Walmart special.

Men don't care if you wore the same dress to the last event. (And probably won't remember.)

But lingerie? That is definitely worn for men. SOoooo.... they decided to make sure that only women had input into the lingerie company.

You can see how well that worked out.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 19, 2023 04:38 PM (N1DT3)

14 VS was a mall store and the malls are ded

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 04:39 PM (AcWfM)

15 Maxim's #92 is hot, huh?

If my dog looked like that, I'd shave it's ass and make it walk backwards.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 19, 2023 04:39 PM (N39Ws)

16 I mean, it's lingerie you're selling (well bras and panties mostly). The whole concept they're selling is sexiness.

And that Aussie trannie is just sad. Hell the Phillipines and Thailand are not that far away. If you want a tranny that looks like a girl, they're not hard to find.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 19, 2023 04:39 PM (xcxpd)

17 14 VS was a mall store and the malls are ded
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 04:39 PM (AcWfM)

In it's day - Victoria Secret was where America's men like'd to shop. Next to Sears, that is.

Funny that - they are both gone.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 19, 2023 04:39 PM (N39Ws)

18 Insurrections just breaking out e'rrywhere:

@unusual_whales 4h
BREAKING: Fed Chair Powell was escorted out of the room as protesters interrupted his speech at ECNY.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 19, 2023 04:40 PM (IG4Id)

19 Although, as many have pointed out, this is another case of "going broke, so let's try woke." Victoria's Secret was in a major decline so they decided to remake their brand as the underwear for obese transgenders.

And then they went more broke.

Weird how that didn't work out.
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Yup. VS failed on its second pivot and they didn't pick up all that Millennials. This was an attempt to snag them and the Zoomers. It failed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 04:40 PM (d04cU)

20 BREAKING: Fed Chair Powell was escorted out of the room as protesters interrupted his speech at ECNY.

well that's a smile

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 04:40 PM (AcWfM)

21 So is this person having sex with men or women, because he looked a heck of a lot better as a man than as a woman, or if they wanted to have sex with men why didn't they just stay as a man and do dress up in their spare time?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 19, 2023 04:40 PM (RSbhh)

22 Yup. VS failed on its second pivot and they didn't pick up all that Millennials. This was an attempt to snag them and the Zoomers. It failed.

Millies don't wear lingerie

Zoomers don't wear traditional underwear, even!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 04:41 PM (AcWfM)

23 "Rapinoed". I like.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at October 19, 2023 04:41 PM (jGKEZ)

24 Cathaleen Chen reported that the brand's efforts to promote inclusivity -- which included making LGBTQ pro women's soccer player and outspoken leftist Megan Rapinoe, as well as a transgender woman, brand spokesmodels and getting rid of its famous "Angels" supermodels -- gained "favorable reviews from online critics [but] never translated into sales."
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LOL. As Ace points out immediately after this excerpt, nobody seems to have learned - yet - that "social media buzz" isn't actually commercially valuable.

Parrot Analytics hardest hit.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 04:41 PM (d04cU)

25 VS should come out with a tranny swimsuit calendar, but make all the months June. That'll drum up sales.

Posted by: Roy at October 19, 2023 04:41 PM (rqgpJ)

26 A woman who represents about 0.1% of the country doesn't have her smelly fingers on the pulse of the nation?
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LOL!

Brutal. Delightfully cruel.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 04:41 PM (d04cU)

27 >>>If you want a tranny that looks like a girl, they're not hard to find.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo

Mark sounds like a man who knows!

Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 04:42 PM (KRtlO)

28 Actually it is three periods of modern civilization

Before the End of Breton-Woods
After Breton-Woods with the Petro-Dollar
When all the fiat systems collapse.

Victoria's Secret was surviving on the interest payments from their store specific credit cards. When things were going well they were raking it in.
Now that there is no money and interest rates are rising, purchases of non essentials are going down, investments that seemed no-brainers at zero interest are now deadly serious at 5%

I liked the idea of having the adverts being both thin models and some "women shaped" models, but then again I am not in the habit of buying patterned tights and push up bras, and I suppose that the girls buying them like thinking they look like Kate Moss.

Anyhow, the money to buy trifles is not there and the interest is eating everyone alive.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2023 04:42 PM (xhaym)

29 Lingerie is specifically made for the male gaze.

And if there's one thing the Male Gaze doesn't approve of, it's a pair of panties equipped with a cock-pocket.

Posted by: Jack Package at October 19, 2023 04:42 PM (8LP6B)

30 "For some definitions of "women." Of course they included a shman."

IT'S MA'AM!!

Posted by: Dude threatening to hit you at October 19, 2023 04:42 PM (N1DT3)

31 I mean... do you know what the margin drop is on the husky sizes are? I'll point out that sizing still runs like airplane seats... you don't pay by the X

Posted by: Inogame at October 19, 2023 04:42 PM (53oGX)

32 Victoria's secret apparently was that she was a man-hating lesbian and possibly had a penis. Can't fathom what went wrong here.

Posted by: Maybe Congress can add some purchases to the next omnibus spending bill to save Victoria's. at October 19, 2023 04:42 PM (6z4VY)

33 The U.S. State Department on Thursday issued a worldwide alert to Americans overseas due to the potential for terrorist attacks, coming in the midst of heightened tensions in the Middle Ease due to the Israel-Hamas conflict.

They left out AOC, Oman and Talieb's Districts in the Alert....

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at October 19, 2023 04:42 PM (hjpxe)

34 >>>23 "Rapinoed". I like.

that's good

Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 04:42 PM (KRtlO)

35 Ugly scrunt Megan Rapinoe as a brand's spokesperson? Someone that is that bitter?

Someone buy her a dozen cats and a Subaru. Maybe then she'll go away.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 19, 2023 04:42 PM (N39Ws)

36 If you want a tranny that looks like a girl, they're not hard to find.

Oh they are hard I betcha

Posted by: Common Tater at October 19, 2023 04:43 PM (tAuUt)

37 In it's day - Victoria Secret was where America's men like'd to shop. Next to Sears, that is.

sears went away bc the sales people were paid on commission and were super annoying

but yeah VS was where Mr Man would shop for the wife at holidays I guess. I never ever even thought about shopping there

I remember getting lingerie for a boyfriend one time and it was like what was the point of that it got destroyed essentially immediately

when you're young enough to wear lingerie you kind of are young enough to not need that sort of extra encouragement either lol

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 04:43 PM (AcWfM)

38 29 Lingerie is specifically made for the male gaze.

And if there's one thing the Male Gaze doesn't approve of, it's a pair of panties equipped with a cock-pocket.
Posted by: Jack Package at October 19, 2023 04:42 PM (8LP6B)

Dudes also want to have to look, and not have flabs of skin fill the entire page.

Posted by: Roy at October 19, 2023 04:43 PM (rqgpJ)

39 Has the FBI started investigating men who are not sexually aroused by other men in dresses?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 04:43 PM (VdGjU)

40 Why would they come back?

The woke death spiral is an irreversible one. You destroy all goodwill in your brand, and then you decide to try to dig yourself out of a hole of bad will.

It is cheaper just to start an entirely new brand where you start at zero instead of in a hole you have to dig out of.
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That has all the same risks as any other new business: the absurdly high chance of failure. This is also unlikely to work.

It's better to ride the wave all the way down, cashing out along the way. Updating stores and opening new ones? That's probably good money after bad. Just up your marketing spend a bit and cash the checks until the corpse bloats.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 04:43 PM (d04cU)

41 I would do Her/It/They/Them.......

Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 19, 2023 04:44 PM (hjpxe)

42 27 >>>If you want a tranny that looks like a girl, they're not hard to find.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo

Mark sounds like a man who knows!
Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 04:42 PM (KRtlO)

I've been in the world. And had a close call or two.

Never get a BJ from anyone you haven't seen all the way naked first.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 19, 2023 04:44 PM (xcxpd)

43 >>>I mean, it's lingerie you're selling (well bras and panties mostly). The whole concept they're selling is sexiness.

To be honest, I went into a VS a couple of times and it wasn't really sexy. It was mostly just bras and panties. Like, they would be pink or striped, but there wasn't any overt sexiness about them.

None of the fun stuff like garters and stockings. Just basically... utilitarian underwear.

Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 04:44 PM (KRtlO)

44 Australian Maxim. Holy shit. That jaw.

Posted by: I can't stop laughing, and I am not laughing with "her." at October 19, 2023 04:44 PM (6z4VY)

45 It's a win-win for the far left piggies. Either VS succeeds as a woke venture ("ugly is beautiful," "obese is healthy," "men can be women"), or it dies and no longer contributes images of beautiful, scantily-clad ladies to our culture.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at October 19, 2023 04:45 PM (qUkBO)

46 Never get a BJ from anyone you haven't seen all the way naked first.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 19, 2023 04:44 PM (xcxpd)

I wrote that one down right after "don't stick it in crazy".

Posted by: Roy at October 19, 2023 04:45 PM (rqgpJ)

47 The Austin Powers Test does not work anymore........

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at October 19, 2023 04:45 PM (hjpxe)

48 Never get a BJ from anyone you haven't seen all the way naked first.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 19, 2023 04:44 PM (xcxpd)

Words of wisdom right there. Especially if you go to Thailand.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 19, 2023 04:45 PM (N39Ws)

49 Wow! What a hottie! She's a real looker, a five-alarm fire!

You know what I look for in a woman? A chin with the angularity and heft of a feller ax. I like a gal who can give me a beej and work out a charlie-horse in my thigh simultaneously.

Also I like big shoulders and arms, so she can hold me tight and protect me from the great big scary world at night.
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I am not at all convinced that his inclusion *isn't* just trolling. They could have picked a passable tranny to placate the woke mob. They didn't. They picked an ugly, middle-aged dude in a dress who couldn't "pass" even his observer was blindfolded.

It's such an outrageous, obvious put-up that I wonder if it was on purpose - a kind of malicious compliance.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 04:45 PM (d04cU)

50 38 Meanwhile the GOP keeps stomping on their own dicks. No house speaker this week

good I hope this lasts for months and months

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 04:46 PM (AcWfM)

51 >>>I am not at all convinced that his inclusion *isn't* just trolling. They could have picked a passable tranny to placate the woke mob. They didn't. They picked an ugly, middle-aged dude in a dress who couldn't "pass" even his observer was blindfolded.

Her beauty is her courage

Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 04:46 PM (KRtlO)

52 Boobs.

The Prosecution rests.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2023 04:46 PM (h6lTq)

53 For such a homophobic, patriarchal society, the US seems to keep giving this bitter bitch Rapinoe the attention she so desperately needs, doesnt' it? She ruins everything she touches and she can go fuck right off a cliff into a sea of fire.

Posted by: UGAdawg at October 19, 2023 04:46 PM (tRd71)

54 That's not a penis, THIS is a penis.

Posted by: Crocodile Dundee at October 19, 2023 04:46 PM (sWM8x)

55 Has anyone else here heard of the clothing store chain, Torrid? They basically sell glamorous fashion, but to fat chicks - Lane Bryant customers who want to feel SEXY!

As a joke, my older brother calls the store Horrid.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at October 19, 2023 04:46 PM (BHrzb)

56
Juliegrace Brufke
@juliegraceb

Per a source in the room, McCarthy screamed at Matt Gaetz to sit down when he went to the mics, with the source saying Rep. Bost “almost lunging at him.”

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 19, 2023 04:46 PM (TGPs7)

57 52 >>>I am not at all convinced that his inclusion *isn't* just trolling. They could have picked a passable tranny to placate the woke mob. They didn't. They picked an ugly, middle-aged dude in a dress who couldn't "pass" even his observer was blindfolded.

Her beauty is her courage
Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 04:46 PM (KRtlO)

Their point is to get you to repeat the lie. They feel power in such things.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2023 04:47 PM (h6lTq)

58 I've noticed that there are certain ways men can pretend to be women, believably.

Be enormously fat. There's an androgyny to fatness, so if you're an enormously fat man, you can easily pretend to be an enormously fat woman (and vice-versa).

Pretend to be an old woman. Trannies can often pull off at least the "is it a he or a she?...." if they try to appear to be an older woman, no matter the man's actual age.

Pretend to be a black woman. There seems to be a larger percentage of masculine looking black females than there are of other races. (I know I'm a racist for noticing that.) As a result, you get another of the "is that really a she?...." rather than absolute certainty if you are pretending to be a black woman.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 19, 2023 04:47 PM (N1DT3)

59 I saw Ignorant Midget Clown open for David Bowie and The Spider's From Mars at The Whiskey A Go Go Wednesday Ladies Night and Midget Tossing Competition in 68'

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at October 19, 2023 04:47 PM (YyRSv)

60 Way back when we used to go to malls Victoria's Secret was a favorite attraction.

Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers at October 19, 2023 04:47 PM (WDdcp)

61 "Zoomers don't wear traditional underwear, even!
Posted by: BlackOrchid"

I was surprised to learn that going bra-less was a not-uncommon Thing among the college set these days.

At least among theater students, which might not be representative.

But it does mean the "how to wear a bra" is now something that the costume designers will have to teach them, in addition to "how to tie shoes" and "how to take off a button-down shirt."

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 19, 2023 04:47 PM (ou9hh)

62 The Trigglypuff collection.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at October 19, 2023 04:48 PM (eTnDQ)

63 Hey GI.................You got Girlfriend Vietnam ???

Posted by: LBFM at October 19, 2023 04:48 PM (hjpxe)

64 Her beauty is her courage
Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 04:46 PM (KRtlO)

Yeah - that'll "get it up".

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 19, 2023 04:48 PM (N39Ws)

65 Is this a case of Victoria's Secret going the New Coke route, only to boost sales by going nostalgic.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 19, 2023 04:48 PM (sX1BW)

66 Advertisers are so focused on the ugly lately.

I know the ugly exist. I don't want to emulate them.

There is some ad featuring a wedding party...Trans groomsman, some black dude with a skin condition. Not pleasant.

Very inclusive and reasonable.

Posted by: DOYLE at October 19, 2023 04:48 PM (Z8Yh2)

67 Per a source in the room, McCarthy screamed at Matt Gaetz to sit down when he went to the mics, with the source saying Rep. Bost “almost lunging at him.”

Meh. Let me know when someone gets the crap beat out of them with a cane.

Posted by: Bert G at October 19, 2023 04:48 PM (VARTN)

68 BREAKING: Fed Chair Powell was escorted out of the room as protesters interrupted his speech at ECNY.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 19, 2023 04:40 PM (IG4Id)

According to Tom Luongo, Powell is ramping up interest to suck debt back to the US and undercut the Europ. It also puts a damper on debt creation (bank lending which is how new dollars are made in our system) and throttle back inflation.
It is actually working from the charts.

Now, the European banks hate it since they want to exchange their newly created debt for US Treasuries and then make loans on them as reserves, and the USG wants zero interest on the treasuries so they can keep spending money we don't have without having to service the interest on what has been borrowed.
He is facing the likes of Janet Yellen and Elizabeth Warren in a battle of wills

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2023 04:48 PM (xhaym)

69 Be enormously fat. There's an androgyny to fatness, so if you're an enormously fat man, you can easily pretend to be an enormously fat woman (and vice-versa).

this but really all three of your suggestions are due to hormone fluctuations/levels

fat = more estrogen no matter what sex you are

black = sorry to say, somewhat prone to less sexual dimorphism and females have higher levels of male hormones naturally

old = your hormones are gone now so what's the diff?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 04:49 PM (AcWfM)

70 >>You know what I look for in a woman

a cock?

Posted by: Oz Maxim at October 19, 2023 04:49 PM (MPgS8)

71 If Clinton would have known about all the PoonTang in Nam, he may have volunteered to go .....

Just sayin............

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at October 19, 2023 04:50 PM (L2WRD)

72 I've noticed that there are certain ways men can pretend to be women, believably.

Be enormously fat. There's an androgyny to fatness, so if you're an enormously fat man, you can easily pretend to be an enormously fat woman (and vice-versa).

Pretend to be an old woman. Trannies can often pull off at least the "is it a he or a she?...." if they try to appear to be an older woman, no matter the man's actual age.

Pretend to be a black woman. There seems to be a larger percentage of masculine looking black females than there are of other races. (I know I'm a racist for noticing that.) As a result, you get another of the "is that really a she?...." rather than absolute certainty if you are pretending to be a black woman.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 19, 2023 04:47 PM (N1DT3)

Oh, I forgot the Asian trannies who succeed because there seems to be a larger percentage of feminine looking Asian men than exist in other races. (This also makes me a racist for noticing.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 19, 2023 04:50 PM (N1DT3)

73 All leftwing men turn into lesbians as they age.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 04:50 PM (VdGjU)

74 Old Hotness: Victoria's "Secret" is that she's wearing crotchless panties.

New and Busted: Victoria's "Secret" is that there's a wiener in the crotchless panties.

No idea how that didn't increase sales.....

Posted by: mikeski at October 19, 2023 04:50 PM (DgGvY)

75 I was surprised to learn that going bra-less was a not-uncommon Thing among the college set these days.

yep they don't

I try to tell them, keep it up and you'll look like an old Nat Geo cover by 40

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 04:51 PM (AcWfM)

76 Now, the European banks hate it since they want to exchange their newly created debt for US Treasuries and then make loans on them as reserves, and the USG wants zero interest on the treasuries so they can keep spending money we don't have without having to service the interest on what has been borrowed.
He is facing the likes of Janet Yellen and Elizabeth Warren in a battle of wills
Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2023 04:48 PM (xhaym)
++++
My nickle is still on "more hikes" or possibly, as the spoiler option "hold the line."

My bet is that Powell is doing what the Fed has always done: play politics until the moment it absolutely cannot continue to do so, then defend the Dollar come hell or high water.

Post-Powell, we'll see.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 04:51 PM (d04cU)

77 There seems to be a larger percentage of masculine looking black females than there are of other races.
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Oh shut up, Butch.

Posted by: Big Mike Obama at October 19, 2023 04:51 PM (sWM8x)

78 Wow! CBS NEWS

https://tinyurl.com/2s4kawz6

Looks like the Yemeni Houthi were trying to strike Isreal. I thought they were just doing business as usual and attacking Saudi Arabia?

I guess Iran is calling in all their markers and attacking Israel with all their clients?

Posted by: rd at October 19, 2023 04:51 PM (RflrK)

79 "All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable."

~Fran Lebowitz.

Posted by: eleven at October 19, 2023 04:51 PM (iziT8)

80 >>>Old Hotness: Victoria's "Secret" is that she's wearing crotchless panties.

see I don't think they even have that. I think they just make regular underwear. Except, pink.

Fredericks' of Hollywood is the slutty cousin of victoria's secret and is the one you actually want.

Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 04:51 PM (KRtlO)

81 75 Old Hotness: Victoria's "Secret" is that she's wearing crotchless panties.

New and Busted: Victoria's "Secret" is that there's a wiener in the crotchless panties.

No idea how that didn't increase sales.....
Posted by: mikeski at October 19, 2023 04:50 PM (DgGvY)

I can understand a woman going from: 'I do not have the boobs to pull that off' to 'I do not have the shoulders to pull that off' might be a bit discouraging.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2023 04:51 PM (h6lTq)

82 BREAKING: Fed Chair Powell was escorted out of the room as "MOSTLY PEACEFULL" protesters interrupted his speech at ECNY.

Can we sell NYC to Canada for a Six Pack of Molson Golden ???

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at October 19, 2023 04:51 PM (L2WRD)

83 I want to ask Cher her take on Lizzo. Really . DEEEESCUSTIN...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at October 19, 2023 04:51 PM (YyRSv)

84 Wow.. too many zingers to copy/paste..

*wipes spewed tea from monitor*

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at October 19, 2023 04:52 PM (LdguF)

85 Oh, I forgot the Asian trannies who succeed because there seems to be a larger percentage of feminine looking Asian men than exist in other races. (This also makes me a racist for noticing.)

again, lower threshold of sexual dimorphism, but the other direction. the males (in general) tend to have more restrained male hormone levels

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 04:52 PM (AcWfM)

86 I've noticed that there are certain ways men can pretend to be women, believably.

Be enormously fat. There's an androgyny to fatness, so if you're an enormously fat man, you can easily pretend to be an enormously fat woman (and vice-versa).
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This used to be how lesbians and F-M trannies tried to butch up - by getting fat. They can't put on the skeletal structure and muscle mass, so they balloon up like a Party City inflatable for "bulk".

Nowadays it seems the trannies are going for the wispy twink, tapeworm-with-AIDS, pedo fantasy look. See: Page, Ellen.

Posted by: Jack Package at October 19, 2023 04:52 PM (8LP6B)

87 If you want a tranny that looks like a girl, they're not hard to find.

This is part of the endless joie de vivre of the modern moment. They literally will not shut up about dolls with balls, but can't seem to find any of the passable ones who put in the work. It's all Tranimal City: men in Party City wigs and pantsuits. They just put The Hulk in a dress and expect people to accept that. If you want to sell this madness, you gotta start with the kind who can fool you (and by you, I mean Mark), not the "It's Ma'am" Gamestop ragers who look like they press more than the average dude at the gym.

Posted by: I do get a chuckle out of this, God help me. at October 19, 2023 04:52 PM (6z4VY)

88 Lizzo is hot.

Posted by: Steven (not to be believed)Tyler at October 19, 2023 04:53 PM (Z8Yh2)

89 Dani Laidley thought so much of "her"self she had a glamour shot done.

Posted by: eleven at October 19, 2023 04:53 PM (iziT8)

90 I was surprised to learn that going bra-less was a not-uncommon Thing among the college set these days.
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I find it liberating. Free the nipple!

Posted by: Chris Christy at October 19, 2023 04:53 PM (lf83v)

91 So, shim is out and shman is in?

I can’t keep up.

Posted by: LASue at October 19, 2023 04:53 PM (Ed8Zd)

92
For some definitions of "women." Of course they included a shman.

You misspelled "shamman".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 19, 2023 04:53 PM (xG4kz)

93 Today's culture is so debased it can't even celebrate what everyone knows is a traditional idea of beautiful. The VS models used to be the most gorgeous women on Earth. Now, if I just see a somewhat cute girl without a nose ring or a tattoo in an unsightly place I automatically think she's a goddess.

Posted by: UGAdawg at October 19, 2023 04:53 PM (tRd71)

94 The fat fetish has struck athletic clothing companies too. All the models are 200+ and make the yoga pants, for example, look like a trashbag of mashed potatoes

Posted by: brak at October 19, 2023 04:53 PM (WxvBY)

95 Please remember that November will be Trans Awareness Month...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 19, 2023 04:54 PM (TGPs7)

96
For some definitions of "women." Of course they included a shman.

You misspelled "shamman".
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)

sham-wow!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 19, 2023 04:54 PM (xG4kz)

97 According to the numbers, the lingerie brand's projected revenue for 2023 is $6.2 billion

I'm surprised. That's still a lotta lace.

Posted by: spindrift at October 19, 2023 04:54 PM (Otxz7)

98 see I don't think they even have that. I think they just make regular underwear. Except, pink.

Fredericks' of Hollywood is the slutty cousin of victoria's secret and is the one you actually want.
Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 04:51 PM (KRtlO)
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VS' whole thing was "sexy but not slutty" - stuff that makes you feel sexy but not slatternly. Good to wear as a sexy treat for yourself your or your husband, not so far as to make you feel like a whore. It was for wives, not for mistresses.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 04:54 PM (d04cU)

99 95 The fat fetish has struck athletic clothing companies too. All the models are 200+ and make the yoga pants, for example, look like a trashbag of mashed potatoes

I know it's f*cking hilarious

I love it. Sumo wrestlers all! apparently the USA leads the world in female sumo wrestlers

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 04:54 PM (AcWfM)

100 94 Today's culture is so debased it can't even celebrate what everyone knows is a traditional idea of beautiful. The VS models used to be the most gorgeous women on Earth. Now, if I just see a somewhat cute girl without a nose ring or a tattoo in an unsightly place I automatically think she's a goddess.
Posted by: UGAdawg at October 19, 2023 04:53 PM (tRd71)

Sports Illustrated= same

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2023 04:54 PM (h6lTq)

101 What you talking about MoFo ?????...... I will kick your ass just like Barry every night when I put him in handcuffs and my used undies over his face .....

Posted by: BIG MIKE at October 19, 2023 04:54 PM (0vFtj)

102 They missed their opportunity.

During the 90s, they could have sold their catalogs for $5 at most 7-11s and charged $20 for an annual subscription sent to the house

Alas, they weren't visionary.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 19, 2023 04:54 PM (NACN2)

103 My bet is that Powell is doing what the Fed has always done: play politics until the moment it absolutely cannot continue to do so, then defend the Dollar come hell or high water.

Post-Powell, we'll see.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 04:51 PM

=======

Didn't George Soros make his fortune by trying to destroy the British Pound?

Posted by: rd at October 19, 2023 04:55 PM (RflrK)

104 >>>VS' whole thing was "sexy but not slutty" - stuff that makes you feel sexy but not slatternly. Good to wear as a sexy treat for yourself your or your husband, not so far as to make you feel like a whore. It was for wives, not for mistresses.

if it's not degrading it's not sexy

Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 04:55 PM (KRtlO)

105 Sumo Wrestlers at comment 100!

yasssss queen slayyyyyyyyyy

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 04:55 PM (AcWfM)

106 I look forward to November 20: Transgender Day of Remembrance...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 19, 2023 04:55 PM (TGPs7)

107 She ruins everything she touches and she can go fuck right off a cliff into a sea of fire.

I particularly liked Rapinoe's announcement that men should be able to play in women's soccer, just as she is retiring.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2023 04:55 PM (2tUFv)

108 if it's not degrading it's not sexy
Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 04:55 PM (KRtlO)
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LOL

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 04:55 PM (d04cU)

109 So, shim is out and shman is in?
________

Sham-wow!

Posted by: Vince Offer at October 19, 2023 04:56 PM (lf83v)

110 "All of your old, undesirable customers remember that you decided that they were old and undesirable, and told them you did not want to sell to them any longer..."

I notice this a lot.
But not just 'old.' It's all demographics 'they' are trying to divide us by.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 19, 2023 04:56 PM (Rbu5d)

111
The fat fetish has struck athletic clothing companies too. All the models are 200+ and make the yoga pants, for example, look like a trashbag of mashed potatoes
Posted by: brak

"You got cellulite in my mashed potatoes!"

"You got mashed potatoes in my cellulite!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 19, 2023 04:56 PM (xG4kz)

112 BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Anyway...

Posted by: Montec at October 19, 2023 04:56 PM (bWsRe)

113 see here I would think a butch lesbian like Megan would WANT her young flames wearing pretty lingerie?

I really don't understand lesbians

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 04:56 PM (AcWfM)

114 For some definitions of "women." Of course they included a shman.

You misspelled "shamman".
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

Your correction is bad medicine.

Posted by: a shaman at October 19, 2023 04:57 PM (DgGvY)

115 love it. Sumo wrestlers all! apparently the USA leads the world in female sumo wrestlers
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 04:54 PM (AcWfM)

Yep. The talent scouts just stake out a WalMart.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at October 19, 2023 04:57 PM (eTnDQ)

116 Even setting aside the balls and dick on that shman, it ain’t good looking. Certainly it’s not one of the hottest people in Australia, and hes probably not even in the top 50 hottest people at his local grocery store.

Posted by: LASue at October 19, 2023 04:57 PM (Ed8Zd)

117 Today I turn to AOSHQ and my whole world is turnt upside down.

Who knew all these things?

Posted by: blaster at October 19, 2023 04:57 PM (HOogy)

118 Disney Princesses in 2023

https://tinyurl.com/4m4bsjec

Posted by: redridinghood at October 19, 2023 04:57 PM (NpAcC)

119 if it's not degrading it's not sexy
Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 04:55 PM (KRtlO)

https://tinyurl.com/5fsfz8mm

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2023 04:57 PM (h6lTq)

120 THESE PANTIES SMELL LIKE MY NUT SACK!

Posted by: Gwynteth Paltrow, Ridiculously Relevant at October 19, 2023 04:57 PM (sWM8x)

121 But not just 'old.' It's all demographics 'they' are trying to divide us by.

it's my fault and other designers

these kids believed the stock photos in all the ads were realistic

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 04:57 PM (AcWfM)

122 "When the new "woke" customers do not come -- they never do -- you now have to spend 20x more to try to attract back your old customers."

Yes, maybe. But I did get invited to all the best parties on Martha's Vineyard.
- CEOs of woke companies

Posted by: Montec at October 19, 2023 04:57 PM (bWsRe)

123 I still rely on the
Ole Dick-O-Meter for my attractiveness quotient rating of chick's. BTW Bo Derek was not a 10....The pointy elbows and nose dropper her to a 6.5...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at October 19, 2023 04:58 PM (YyRSv)

124 Chief executive Martin Waters also reportedly admitted that the inclusivity initiatives were not profitable for the company ...

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In Biden's America there's nothing more inclusive than bankruptcy and economic & financial ruin! Welcome to the party, ~~pals~~ gals ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 19, 2023 04:58 PM (ie4Do)

125 Yeah. Walking through the mall and passing Victoria’s Secret only to see a land whale in lingerie on the poster is what every red blooded American man wants to see.
These people are nuts but it’s this way in any clothing store you go into. There are more fat, homely women on all the displays than the women we always thought of as desirable.

Posted by: RetSgtRN at October 19, 2023 04:58 PM (DhOnb)

126 127 Yeah. Walking through the mall and passing Victoria’s Secret only to see a land whale in lingerie on the poster is what every red blooded American man wants to see.

now that you mention it, maybe VS going woke CAUSED the death of American malls

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 04:59 PM (AcWfM)

127
THESE PANTIES SMELL LIKE MY NUT SACK!
Posted by: Gwynteth Paltrow, Ridiculously Relevant

When can we expect to be able to buy this type of scented candle, Gwynnie?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 19, 2023 04:59 PM (xG4kz)

128 We like our models on coke, fake boobs and pussy.
Fat chicks need not apply. It’s just the business.

That’s women. Can you imagine a man with a big gut and butt crack wanting to be a model.

Posted by: Redenzo at October 19, 2023 04:59 PM (V/pbu)

129 That "Dani" Laidley is a dude. No matter how much nailpolish, blush, hair bleach or jewelry.

Repulsive.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 19, 2023 04:59 PM (Rbu5d)

130 I particularly liked Rapinoe's announcement that men should be able to play in women's soccer, just as she is retiring.

Which will kill women's professional soccer (for the third time). The core fan base for women's professional soccer are lesbians, who are completely disinterested in watching men play, just because the men wear a dress off the field.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2023 05:00 PM (2tUFv)

131 131 That "Dani" Laidley is a dude. No matter how much nailpolish, blush, hair bleach or jewelry.

Repulsive.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 19, 2023 04:59 PM (Rbu5d)

What if we put a pink bow on her penis?

Posted by: I'm going to mark you down as a "maybe." at October 19, 2023 05:01 PM (6z4VY)

132 Fen @ 21 - It has a female girlfriend.

https://tinyurl.com/3kjucay5

Such a lovely couple.

Posted by: Cheri at October 19, 2023 05:01 PM (oiNtH)

133 "When the new "woke" customers do not come -- they never do -- you now have to spend 20x more to try to attract back your old customers."

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As I learned when working in customer service decades ago:

It can take you months, even years, to gain a new customer -- and seconds to lose them.

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 19, 2023 05:01 PM (ie4Do)

134 Didn't Steve Sailer (among others) point out that there are two kinds of trannies: the frail gays who got beat up and stuffed into lockers at school and the straight alpha males who get turned on by panty hose and silky undergarments and access to girls' locker rooms?

Aussie footie coach sounds like the latter.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at October 19, 2023 05:01 PM (BHrzb)

135 The good news is you are #93 on our list of hottest women in Australia. The bad news is #92 has a dick and adam's apple and is basically hideous even by drag standards.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 19, 2023 05:01 PM (sX1BW)

136 Cruel Ace is the best Ace. But, Ace, the chix were hired to destroy VS and they did a great job.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at October 19, 2023 05:02 PM (Eeb9P)

137 I don't think this search engine understands the word 'sultry'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2023 05:02 PM (h6lTq)

138 VS' whole thing was "sexy but not slutty" - stuff that makes you feel sexy but not slatternly. Good to wear as a sexy treat for yourself your or your husband, not so far as to make you feel like a whore. It was for wives, not for mistresses.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 04:54 PM (d04cU)

This. Joe knows.

Posted by: Emmie at October 19, 2023 05:02 PM (Sf2cq)

139 Can't spell Rapinoe without rapin'.

Posted by: Just putting that out there at October 19, 2023 05:02 PM (B9RjC)

140 96
Tks BTW what is the bag limit and what constitutes a doe...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at October 19, 2023 05:03 PM (YyRSv)

141 Yeah. Walking through the mall and passing Victoria’s Secret only to see a land whale in lingerie on the poster is what every red blooded American man wants to see.
These people are nuts but it’s this way in any clothing store you go into. There are more fat, homely women on all the displays than the women we always thought of as desirable.

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I don't even register their ads anymore. My eyes slide right off of them as my subconscious makes a note of "that's something for fatties and/or gimps - not relevant"

Posted by: Jack Package at October 19, 2023 05:03 PM (8LP6B)

142 68 Per a source in the room, McCarthy screamed at Matt Gaetz to sit down when he went to the mics, with the source saying Rep. Bost “almost lunging at him.”

Unnamed sources with vague descriptions of actions ‘almost’ taken? . I’m not moved.

Posted by: LASue at October 19, 2023 05:03 PM (Ed8Zd)

143 95 The fat fetish has struck athletic clothing companies too. All the models are 200+ and make the yoga pants, for example, look like a trashbag of mashed potatoes
Posted by: brak at October 19, 2023 04:53 PM (WxvBY)

Glad I didn't have a mouthful of coffee when I read this...

Posted by: Shepherd Lover at October 19, 2023 05:03 PM (SE3js)

144 the chix were hired to destroy VS and they did a great job.

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How else can the VC crowd buy the brand on the cheap only to make a killing on the IPO in a few years.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 19, 2023 05:03 PM (sX1BW)

145 >>>VS' whole thing was "sexy but not slutty" - stuff that makes you feel sexy but not slatternly. Good to wear as a sexy treat for yourself your or your husband, not so far as to make you feel like a whore. It was for wives, not for mistresses.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

i still don't get it. It was just normal underwear. All women's underwear is inherently kinda sexy because it's women's underwear. I don't see what VS did to really do more than make it pink.

which is already the second or third most popular color for underwear.

Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 05:04 PM (KRtlO)

146 I like volleyball girls better than Victoria's Secret girls

Weird I know

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 05:04 PM (VdGjU)

147 To meet this objective, the brand plans to roll out activewear and swimwear, update its existing stores and open up 400 new ones outside the United States.

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Please tell me that all these are going into Middle Eastern Muzzie countries as well as Iran and the Gaza Strip!

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 19, 2023 05:04 PM (ie4Do)

148 er a source in the room, McCarthy screamed at Matt Gaetz to sit down when he went to the mics, with the source saying Rep. Bost “almost lunging at him.”

Meh. Let me know when someone gets the crap beat out of them with a cane.
Posted by: Bert G at October 19, 2023 04:48 PM (VARTN)
........

or a folding metal chair.

Posted by: wth at October 19, 2023 05:05 PM (v0R5T)

149 I don't see what VS did to really do more than make it pink.

I never did either - they also sold pjs and other clothing like yoga pants also often in pink

I like Calvin Klein for undies it's my go-to

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 05:05 PM (AcWfM)

150 so what i'm saying is that i went into VS a couple of times to buy something for a some Adult Time Fun and I left empty handed because I could get underwear just as sexy from J.C. Penny and have change leftover for Cinnabuns.

Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 05:05 PM (KRtlO)

151 Today I turn to AOSHQ and my whole world is turnt upside down.

Who knew all these things?
Posted by: blaster at October 19, 2023 04:57 PM (HOogy)

Upside down and inside out.

Posted by: LASue at October 19, 2023 05:05 PM (Ed8Zd)

152 the much-diminished brand-name to a fly-by-night internet vendor at which point it becomes a zombie brand barely surviving on nostalgia fumes.

What happened to Archie macphee?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at October 19, 2023 05:06 PM (0fIkm)

153 i still don't get it. It was just normal underwear. All women's underwear is inherently kinda sexy because it's women's underwear. I don't see what VS did to really do more than make it pink.

which is already the second or third most popular color for underwear.

Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 05:04 PM (KRtlO)

I do not think that you get the difference between underwear and lingerie. Underwear can be sexy because of the gal wearing it. We're dudes. The right gal wearing a burlap sack is sexy.

Lingerie is usually more... lacey and revealing. As Joe says above, it is more aimed at the woman. A change or attitude she is trying to project (without going full Fredrick's Whore.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2023 05:06 PM (h6lTq)

154 so what i'm saying is that i went into VS a couple of times to buy something for a some Adult Time Fun

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oh boy ...

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 19, 2023 05:06 PM (sX1BW)

155 Your brand is dead. You will continue losing money year-over-year until you are forced to sell the much-diminished brand-name to a fly-by-night internet vendor at which point it becomes a zombie brand barely surviving on nostalgia fumes.

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"Amazon's Secrets: Big and Tall."

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 19, 2023 05:07 PM (ie4Do)

156 >>so what i'm saying is that i went into VS a couple of times to buy something for a some Adult Time Fun and I left empty handed because I could get underwear just as sexy from J.C. Penny and have change leftover for Cinnabuns.

Did it still fit after the Cinabuns?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2023 05:07 PM (ZLI7S)

157 I'll repeat what I've said before on the topic, mostly because you ingrates didn't give me the praise for my brilliant insight that I thought I deserved the last time.

The old VS marketing approach was "Buy our crap because you want to look like this." The new (apparently now the old new) one is "Buy our crap because this is as good as it gets for you." I don't see how that could have gone wrong.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 19, 2023 05:07 PM (nfrXX)

158 Was it Cramer that said "Going woke is a sound business strategy."?

If it was he is an economic and business sage of the ages.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 19, 2023 05:07 PM (17s+e)

159 It has a female girlfriend.

https://tinyurl.com/3kjucay5

Such a lovely couple.
Posted by: Cheri at October 19, 2023 05:01 PM (oiNtH)
.......

a beer belly AND tits... awesome!

Posted by: wth at October 19, 2023 05:07 PM (v0R5T)

160 i still don't get it. It was just normal underwear. All women's underwear is inherently kinda sexy because it's women's underwear. I don't see what VS did to really do more than make it pink.

which is already the second or third most popular color for underwear.
Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 05:04 PM (KRtlO)
++++
Ah, yes. That brings us to the true secret of VS' success.

Their stuff is sexier than average - lace, small, thongs, etc. - but nothing special. It had a reputation for quality and comfort but I am also not in the market so have no firsthand experience. But there is plenty of stuff that ticks all those boxes.

What made VS special was the same thing that makes any commodity successful: marketing. VS was the epitome of sexy because of the marketing. Beautiful women put on a show. The men look at it at and say, "ooh, nice." The women look at it at and say, "oooh, my husband would *love* to see me looking like that."

VS had the quality and the style, but the difference-maker was - as it always is - the marketing. The brand depended on the Angels and the image they created.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 05:07 PM (d04cU)

161 Beach volleyball girls, are great but I also like the cheek caressing shorts the indoor players wear.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 05:07 PM (VdGjU)

162 151 Today I turn to AOSHQ and my whole world is turnt upside down.

Who knew all these things?
Posted by: blaster at October 19, 2023 04:57 PM (HOogy)

Upside down and inside out.
Posted by: LASue at October 19, 2023 05:05 PM (Ed8Zd)

If you hold this comment up to your ear, you can hear Diana Ross.

Posted by: Like a seashell and the sea. at October 19, 2023 05:07 PM (6z4VY)

163 All women's underwear is inherently kinda sexy because it's women's underwear.

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Why thank you, sailor!

---Lizzo

Posted by: runner at October 19, 2023 05:07 PM (hht4k)

164 Uhmmm...it's been a looooong time since I studied maths in school, but "In MY Day", the $1.3Billion difference between $7.5B, and $6.2B wasn't a 5%loss.
Deez nu maths B nutz.

Vic's Secret made as much selling t-shirts, robes, ballcaps, and stuff with their "Pink" Tm'd Logo as they did selling filmy/gauzy boudoir shit, maybe more. IF they had stuck with marketing just that uni-sex crap to their "New Target" clientele, instead of trying to shift their total advertising focus to hairy hippos in g-strings....maybeee...they actually would/could have increased sales.

Posted by: birddog at October 19, 2023 05:07 PM (1E8/t)

165 >>>Lingerie is usually more... lacey and revealing. As Joe says above, it is more aimed at the woman.

well I didn't think so. Did they even have teddys? And even if they did, teddys are more cute than sexy.

Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 05:08 PM (KRtlO)

166 The general case for catering to Woke:

https://tinyurl.com/thethingtheywant

Posted by: mikeski at October 19, 2023 05:08 PM (DgGvY)

167 well I didn't think so. Did they even have teddys? And even if they did, teddys are more cute than sexy.

---------------

You had to order from the catalog for the good stuff.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 19, 2023 05:08 PM (sX1BW)

168 150 so what i'm saying is that i went into VS a couple of times to buy something for a some Adult Time Fun and I left empty handed because I could get underwear just as sexy from J.C. Penny and have change leftover for Cinnabuns.
Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 05:05 PM (KRtlO)

I went in there to get a gift. Once.

Apparently they do not provide for particularly busty ladies. So I took my business elsewhere.

0/10 stars.

Talk about a way to destroy your brand for me.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2023 05:09 PM (h6lTq)

169 THESE PANTIES SMELL LIKE MY NUT SACK!
Posted by: Gwynteth Paltrow, Ridiculously Relevant
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That's one scented candle I'm never going to buy!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 19, 2023 05:09 PM (krqg6)

170 a beer belly AND tits... awesome!
Posted by: wth at October 19, 2023 05:07 PM (v0R5T)

Pffft. Just look in the upper deck of your average sportsball stadium.

Posted by: It's the phytoestrogens in the beer at October 19, 2023 05:09 PM (B9RjC)

171 >>>You had to order from the catalog for the good stuff.

okay I was wondering if I was missing that part, the catalog.

Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 05:09 PM (KRtlO)

172 Next up to go down faster than Kamalahoe on a Willy:

Lovers'.

Formerly known as Lovers' Package. Totally down with the woke BS, and barf-inducing to even walk by. Perhaps it was a stroke of marketing genius to drop "Package" from the name before the woketardedness, else it would have been a unfortunate double-entendre.

Posted by: Shepherd Lover at October 19, 2023 05:10 PM (SE3js)

173 Lizzo is hot.
Posted by: Steven (not to be believed)Tyler at October 19, 2023 04:53 PM (Z8Yh2)

this is likely true. She probably sweats when it's 30 degrees out.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Psalm 83 at October 19, 2023 05:10 PM (T/Lqj)

174 Such a lovely couple.
Posted by: Cheri at October 19, 2023 05:01 PM (oiNtH)

blink

blink

I can't even find words.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at October 19, 2023 05:10 PM (OX9vb)

175 well I didn't think so. Did they even have teddys? And even if they did, teddys are more cute than sexy.
Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 05:08 PM (KRtlO)

I immediately thought 'teddy bears. an ewok turned on by teddy bears. Seems normal.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2023 05:11 PM (h6lTq)

176 I'm starting to think Ace might be watching TV on an old black and white model and under the impression that it's the show's production quality that it terrible:

Posted by: It's a hasty metaphor. at October 19, 2023 05:11 PM (6z4VY)

177 Heh my dad called one of my tall kind of lazy hippy friends a "Long drink of water". In the burning times I'm thinking King this saying will come back in style as well as others... ie: no work no food ect..

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at October 19, 2023 05:11 PM (YyRSv)

178 *scans thread*

Well dang. If ever there was a time for pictures.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2023 05:11 PM (uSHSS)

179 VS had the quality and the style, but the difference-maker was - as it always is - the marketing. The brand depended on the Angels and the image they created.

yeah they also had the most advanced push up bras

they really had NOTHING for anyone with more than a C cup which is why I didn't shop there, mostly. they could make a small cup look bigger but if you had a larger cup forget it

and their cup sizes ran small so my 34D became 34DD and at 20 that was upsetting; now I don't care

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 05:11 PM (AcWfM)

180 Hey Martin Waters! Kick back and don't worry. Grab a Bud Light and put a Star Wars Chick Empowerment on the TV.

May as well, since your business is being Rapinoed and there is not much you can now do to fix it.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 19, 2023 04:37 PM

Don't forget us!

Posted by: Subway at October 19, 2023 05:11 PM (xttsV)

181 Saw a new show on one of the streamers - Goosebumps, which I fondly remember my kids' reading the books as light horror with teens. Do Not Bother. Of course, the cast is de rigueur diversified, although they are all well past high school age. The semi-trannie kid was the one that got the channel switched in his girly curls, necklaces, fem sweater, and Halloween costume cutsie catsuit. UGHH
I looked him up - sure enough, the actor is quote - LGBTyaddayadda activist. This is also what ruined the remake of Quantum Leap for me. I have declared a No Tolerance Zone for this crap.

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at October 19, 2023 05:11 PM (H3zk+)

182 Render Lizzo down for oil and we'll solve the energy crisis.

Posted by: Carbon neutral? Don't care. at October 19, 2023 05:11 PM (B9RjC)

183
I was always able to find a cheap alternative to Victoria's Secret.

They were always 'upscale' mall based which means pay way too much for not very much.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 19, 2023 05:12 PM (enJYY)

184 Such a lovely couple.
Posted by: Cheri at October 19, 2023 05:01 PM (oiNtH)

blink

blink

I can't even find words.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at October 19, 2023 05:10 PM (OX9vb)
.......

So. The big one or the little one?

Posted by: wth at October 19, 2023 05:12 PM (v0R5T)

185 This bikini blonde is no longer in the Victoria's Secret target market:
https://is.gd/TiI6iY

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 05:12 PM (d04cU)

186 I immediately thought 'teddy bears. an ewok turned on by teddy bears. Seems normal.'
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Buggery-bears.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 19, 2023 05:12 PM (krqg6)

187 Apparently they do not provide for particularly busty ladies. So I took my business elsewhere.

yep it was frustrating

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 05:12 PM (AcWfM)

188 i still don't get it. It was just normal underwear. All women's underwear is inherently kinda sexy because it's women's underwear. I don't see what VS did to really do more than make it pink.

When I was a young lad and I first discovered the Victoria's Secret catalog, I would definitely not have agreed with you. All I had known to that point was Sears or Target style granny panties / bikini briefs. VS was a magical new realm.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 19, 2023 05:12 PM (R38qh)

189

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 05:12 PM (AcWfM)

190 oops!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 05:12 PM (AcWfM)

191 What a time to be alive!

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 19, 2023 05:13 PM (Vf6Ay)

192 and their cup sizes ran small so my 34D became 34DD and at 20 that was upsetting; now I don't care
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 05:11 PM (AcWfM)

So what you're saying is you have giant bazongas.

Posted by: Let's get down to brass tacks here at October 19, 2023 05:13 PM (B9RjC)

193 178 *scans thread*

Well dang. If ever there was a time for pictures.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2023 05:11 PM (uSHSS)

https://tinyurl.com/38d3zk48

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2023 05:13 PM (h6lTq)

194 Next you'll tell me that Sports Illustrated subscriptions have gone down.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 19, 2023 05:13 PM (sX1BW)

195 The Barrell is hungry...

Posted by: Shepherd Lover at October 19, 2023 05:13 PM (SE3js)

196 Ah, Megan Rapinoe. The effect of gazing on her beauty is like a combination of a cold shower, a dose of saltpeter and an enlarged prostate.

Posted by: Paco at October 19, 2023 05:13 PM (njExo)

197 I looked him up - sure enough, the actor is quote - LGBTyaddayadda activist. This is also what ruined the remake of Quantum Leap for me. I have declared a No Tolerance Zone for this crap.

did you see Season 2 of Good Omens? My word the nonsense

apparently there are disabled angels

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 05:14 PM (AcWfM)

198 You fucking maniacs continue huffing Obama's unicorn farts and acting as if garbage suddenly became gold just because Obama said "Hey we should pretend garbage is gold and see how that works out."

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* The OG ShitMidas has entered the chat *

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 19, 2023 05:14 PM (ie4Do)

199 I've got my notepad out and I'm scribbling like a fiend.

Come for the cruelty.
Stay for the masturbation euphemisms.

Posted by: DaveA at October 19, 2023 05:14 PM (FhXTo)

200 Two words: miracle bra.

Posted by: DOYLE at October 19, 2023 05:14 PM (Z8Yh2)

201 Lacy underwear for women has always been a thing.

Check out the women's fashions in a museum when lace was hand made. And they were smaller then. Like elves.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 19, 2023 05:14 PM (cOq4q)

202 So what you're saying is you have giant bazongas.

yeah well they're in the Barrel now!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 05:14 PM (AcWfM)

203 So no one wants to look at obese, lesbian or trans genders in underwear ? I'm shocked... Shocked I tell you...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 19, 2023 05:15 PM (bs+z0)

204 2:00am at the bar.
Guy No. 1: "I want the little one."
Guy No. 2: "No way, I want the little one."
Guy No. 1: "I want the little one."
Guy No. 2: "OK OK. Shit. Wish me luck."

Posted by: wth at October 19, 2023 05:15 PM (v0R5T)

205 https://tinyurl.com/38d3zk48
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2023 05:13 PM (h6lTq)
++++
Nice. A bit risque for public, but she clearly has ... confidence.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 05:15 PM (d04cU)

206 I like volleyball girls better than Victoria's Secret girls
Weird I know
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd

Chivalry. Rules drilled into your head when you were 9, if you're now around 29.

You're supposed to avert your eyes from a woman in her underwear, unless it's your wife. Maybe offer her your coat or something.

Volleyball girls are wearing just as much, but it's "out in public" clothes that you're allowed to ogle.

Posted by: mikeski at October 19, 2023 05:15 PM (DgGvY)

207 I'm too fat and homely to make fun of other fat and homely people.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 05:16 PM (VdGjU)

208 Nice. A bit risque for public, but she clearly has ... confidence.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 05:15 PM (d04cU)

Women's jeans are just different.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2023 05:16 PM (h6lTq)

209 VS must have brain surgeons working for them

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2023 05:16 PM (fwDg9)

210 This thread is ripe for Shapiro's sister.

Posted by: DOYLE at October 19, 2023 05:16 PM (Z8Yh2)

211 207 I'm too fat and homely to make fun of other fat and homely people.
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 05:16 PM (VdGj

yeah.. Me too.. But I do it anyway

Posted by: It's me donna at October 19, 2023 05:16 PM (bs+z0)

212 Chivalry. Rules drilled into your head when you were 9, if you're now around 29.

Also called neutering. Fuck that shit.

Posted by: Let's beat the masculinity out of boys then demand they man up at October 19, 2023 05:17 PM (B9RjC)

213 I like a gal who can give me a beej and work out a charlie-horse in my thigh simultaneously.

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LMFAO.

Classic Ace ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 19, 2023 05:17 PM (ie4Do)

214 "Render Lizzo down for oil and we'll solve the energy crisis."

Save the whales!

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 19, 2023 05:17 PM (ou9hh)

215 One of his best supercuts-

Tom Elliott
@tomselliott

SUPERCUT!

U.S. media hype Hamas disinformation, spark global uprising

https://tinyurl.com/bdh5c36c

Posted by: redridinghood at October 19, 2023 05:17 PM (NpAcC)

216 56 Has anyone else here heard of the clothing store chain, Torrid? They basically sell glamorous fashion, but to fat chicks - Lane Bryant customers who want to feel SEXY!

As a joke, my older brother calls the store Horrid.
Posted by: Pete in Texas at October 19, 2023 04:46 PM (BHrzb)

I went into one of those stores - ONCE. The clothes were overpriced, cheap, and for tramps.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 19, 2023 05:17 PM (Rbu5d)

217 197 apparently there are disabled angels
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 19, 2023 05:14 PM (AcWfM)

One big-ass set of wings for Clarence in the iron lung . . .

"Every time a bell rings, a cripple gets his wheels."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2023 05:17 PM (x0n13)

218 so what i'm saying is that i went into VS a couple of times to buy something for a some Adult Time Fun and I left empty handed because I could get underwear just as sexy from J.C. Penny and have change leftover for Cinnabuns.
Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 05:05 PM (KRtlO)

WOW. Sexy lingerie and Cinnabons. You are the man my friend. LOL.

Posted by: RetSgtRN at October 19, 2023 05:17 PM (DhOnb)

219 That face could bash in a garbage can just by looking at it.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at October 19, 2023 05:17 PM (wh9C3)

220 210 This thread is ripe for Shapiro's sister.
Posted by: DOYLE at October 19, 2023 05:16 PM (Z8Yh2)

https://tinyurl.com/ccnwnvnt

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2023 05:17 PM (h6lTq)

221 For whatever reason Wal-Mart always has the melon hammocks on the end isle displays.

Just like the sports dept has the bowling ball polishers on end displays.

Same size.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 19, 2023 05:17 PM (cOq4q)

222 > Check out the women's fashions in a museum when lace was hand made. And they were smaller then. Like elves.

I once saw some of the original Star Trek costumes in a little museum exhibit. Holy crap those guys were TINY! Similar to your comment, I thought they must have been gay little elves.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 19, 2023 05:18 PM (R38qh)

223 In other news - I find it fascinating that one this blog a couple days ago, we were talking about what a great move it would be for Donald Trump to charter a flight to Israel to pick up the Americans that Biden was abandoning and refusing to bring home. We talked about how wonderful that would be - but Trump never did it.
Wonder of wonders, Ron DeSantis did - second planeload of 200 Americans landed in Florida today. What's even better, Biden had said they would bill any Americans they did bring home for the flight - DeSantis said "nah friends, this is free of charge."

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 19, 2023 05:18 PM (i9ffA)

224 You used to be able to see nip with VS. Then they got all classy. That was the beginning of the end.

Posted by: DOYLE at October 19, 2023 05:18 PM (Z8Yh2)

225 214 "Render Lizzo down for oil and we'll solve the energy crisis."

Save the whales!
Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 19, 2023 05:17 PM (ou9hh)

Ambergris vs amber grease. Discuss (disgust).

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2023 05:18 PM (x0n13)

226 Cool and breezy out thar.

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2023 05:19 PM (T4tVD)

227 210 This thread is ripe for Shapiro's sister.
Posted by: DOYLE at October 19, 2023 05:16 PM (Z8Yh2)

https://tinyurl.com/ccnwnvnt

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Oh my

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 19, 2023 05:19 PM (sX1BW)

228 220 210 This thread is ripe for Shapiro's sister.
Posted by: DOYLE at October 19, 2023 05:16 PM (Z8Yh2)

https://tinyurl.com/ccnwnvnt
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2023 05:17 PM (h6lTq)

Nice adenoids.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2023 05:19 PM (x0n13)

229 226 Cool and breezy out thar.
Posted by: JT at October 19, 2023 05:19 PM (T4tVD)

90+ here

Posted by: It's me donna at October 19, 2023 05:19 PM (bs+z0)

230 All of this is aspirational. Women wanted to be as desirable as the beautiful models so they would buy the underwear.

They SAY they want obese and ugly women as models thinking the comparison would somehow make them more attractive.

But what people say and what people do are two very different things. Once Lizzo types were parading around in it, no one wanted to actually buy any of it for themselves.

Posted by: Blago at October 19, 2023 05:19 PM (wMRY8)

231 We need to go the way of Japan. They have stores for fat chicks and they are named after fat chucks.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 19, 2023 05:19 PM (Vf6Ay)

232 "And they were smaller then. Like elves."

admittedly, they probably were smaller - malnutrition will do that to you - but also, beware of mistaking sample size garments for actual wearable ones.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 19, 2023 05:20 PM (ou9hh)

233 >>Cool and breezy out thar.

Nice though. Perfect fall day.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2023 05:20 PM (ZLI7S)

234 67...Meh. Let me know when someone gets the crap beat out of them with a cane.
Posted by: Bert G at October 19, 2023 04:48 PM (VARTN)

Those were the days...

Posted by: Preston Brooks at October 19, 2023 05:20 PM (Rbu5d)

235 226 Cool and breezy out thar.
Posted by: JT at October 19, 2023 05:19 PM (T4tVD)

90+ here
Posted by: It's me donna at October 19, 2023 05:19 PM (bs+z0)

Jeepers !

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2023 05:21 PM (T4tVD)

236 Apparently they do not provide for particularly busty ladies. So I took my business elsewhere.

0/10 stars.

Talk about a way to destroy your brand for me.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2023 05:09 PM (h6lTq)

That's what really killed me about the fat VS models. VS does not actually sell anything that would fit them. And nothing over a DD.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at October 19, 2023 05:21 PM (OX9vb)

237 I think most men would order their women's lacy underthings from TEMU these days rather than VS.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 19, 2023 05:21 PM (17s+e)

238 Nice adenoids.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2023 05:19 PM (x0n13)

I feel the need to make a joke about oral sex and appendectomies...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 19, 2023 05:21 PM (h6lTq)

239 I like a gal who can give me a beej and work out a charlie-horse in my thigh simultaneously.
---
You can overwork a chin and dislocate it, you know.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 19, 2023 05:21 PM (sWM8x)

240 "Again, you don't say. You don't say. Picking directors based on their vagina-havingness and not on their experience and record results in losing money? You don't say.
This is really eye-opening. Do go on. I've got my notepad out and I'm scribbling like a fiend."

Freaking hysterical throughout. Well done.

Posted by: Zek at October 19, 2023 05:21 PM (5FPX4)

241 My wife got a VS coupon in the mail a couple weeks back. We laughed at the models they used. Empirically ugly -- not merely plain. And fat -- not curvy, fat.

Made me recall the days when Jill Goodacre used to grace the pages of their catalogs. Boy, it was good as a young lad to have sisters on the VS mailing list.

Posted by: red speck at October 19, 2023 05:22 PM (0Id0S)

242 Fen @ 21 - It has a female girlfriend.

Femalee friend is much more attactive than Dani is, so why didn't he just stay as a male, unless his post mid life crisis before the sex change made him such a bizarre person that most women didn't want to be with him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 19, 2023 05:22 PM (RSbhh)

243 Sports Illustrated should suffer the same fate.

Posted by: Drive By at October 19, 2023 05:22 PM (WC7c+)

244 So what you're saying is you have giant bazongas.
Posted by: Let's get down to brass tacks here at October 19, 2023 05:13 PM (B9RjC)

My wife was a 34 plus plus all her life - no matter how skinny- I could show your pictures. I was never a breast guy, I always thought that to be simplistic as far as visual aesthetics - but she is suffering now at 61. She's still pretty skinny, but her upper body gives her pains. She's tried a lot of bras, none of them help. I feel bad for her.

Posted by: Boswell at October 19, 2023 05:22 PM (K+UlC)

245 >>>And fat -- not curvy, fat.

that's a weird thing. There are some plus size models that have nice cans and butts. A little thicc but nice.

They don't hire them. Because a lot of guys like that look, and they're determined to Thwart the Male Gaze.

Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 05:23 PM (KRtlO)

246 Lacy underwear for women has always been a thing.

Lacy Underall was a character in Caddyshack.

Posted by: Archer at October 19, 2023 05:23 PM (gmo/4)

247 Sidney Powell pleads guilty and becomes a State's witness. Always be the first co-conspirator to do a deal unless you want to rot in prison for a decade or more.

Popcorn

Posted by: John Boehner laughing at October 19, 2023 05:24 PM (Plj5l)

248 Posted by: Australian Ace at October 19, 2023 05:23 PM (KRtlO)

Then they ain’t fat boss.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 19, 2023 05:24 PM (Vf6Ay)

249 226 Cool and breezy out thar.
Posted by: JT at October 19, 2023 05:19 PM (T4tVD)

90+ here
Posted by: It's me donna at October 19, 2023 05:19 PM (bs+z0)
........

Same here. I'm going to pretend it's Friday and go get a beer.

Posted by: wth at October 19, 2023 05:24 PM (v0R5T)

250 I see, Black Orchid made the point long before I got there.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at October 19, 2023 05:24 PM (OX9vb)

251 You know what underwear sucks? Calvin Klein. Uncomfortable pushing of things forward instead of keeping bits and pieces in place. You know what beats the snot out of CK? Hanes.

Posted by: Zek at October 19, 2023 05:24 PM (5FPX4)

252 Oops. Looks like the fog is coming in at the coast.

Posted by: wth at October 19, 2023 05:25 PM (v0R5T)

253 Chivalry. Rules drilled into your head when you were 9, if you're now around 29.

Also called neutering. Fuck that shit.

Posted by: Let's beat the masculinity out of boys then demand they man up at October 19, 2023 05:17 PM (B9RjC)

-----------

Reminded me of a conversation I had with a 30-something (and very conservative) co-worker this morning: she took her 12-year-old daughter to a doctor (young female) just for a general checkup (since it had been some years), and after the examination the doctor starts asking the daughter questions about her sexuality.

Her mom says "Oh, hell NO -- you don't even go there," and dragged her daughter out of there (and will never return).

The doctor continues to protest that "But we need to start asking these questions before puberty!"

"Not to my daughter, you don't! "

The lesson is you cannot leave your children alone with these grooming child predator scum -- especially in schools.

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 19, 2023 05:26 PM (ie4Do)

254 I was at a thrift store recently...they had a stack of old SI swimsuit issues...I snickered.

Posted by: DOYLE at October 19, 2023 05:26 PM (Z8Yh2)

255
In my area there was Victoria's Secret and a small chain called "Birds and the Bees". Now when you're looking for elevated footwear with flashing night lighting in the platforms for the female in your life you would not find it at Victoria's Secret.

Not nearly enough political candidates in New Jersey understand the ability of elevated footwear with flashing night lighting in the platforms to capture the attention and motivate voters.

This is why we lose.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 19, 2023 05:26 PM (enJYY)

256 I never found the VS "angels" attractive.

Such being the case, I wish to see the woke brand destruction continue until VS finally is sucked down into the sewer.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 19, 2023 05:26 PM (MkuC5)

257 >>>
My wife was a 34 plus plus all her life - no matter how skinny- I could show your pictures. I was never a breast guy, I always thought that to be simplistic as far as visual aesthetics - but she is suffering now at 61. She's still pretty skinny, but her upper body gives her pains. She's tried a lot of bras, none of them help. I feel bad for her.
Posted by: Boswell

You know you're getting old when the second or third thing you think when seeing a young lady with huge cans is, "Poor thing, her back is gonna be killing her by 30."

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 19, 2023 05:27 PM (cOq4q)

258 VS' whole thing was "sexy but not slutty" - stuff that makes you feel sexy but not slatternly. Good to wear as a sexy treat for yourself your or your husband, not so far as to make you feel like a whore. It was for wives, not for mistresses.

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I've found that wives liked to be looked at in the same way as "slutty" mistresses. Maybe that's why so many married women have turned into mistresses nowadays.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 19, 2023 05:27 PM (BdMk6)

259 Made me recall the days when Jill Goodacre used to grace the pages of their catalogs.

I'd wouldn't mind being stuck in an ATM with Jill Goodacre.

Posted by: spindrift at October 19, 2023 05:27 PM (Otxz7)

260 Vickie's (as my wife refers to Victoria's Secret) used to be a pretty cool place to shop. Seriously. We went to one, way back in the late 90's that had a pretty slick setup for dressing rooms. The dressing area was arranged with partitions that sort of broke up the larger room into little cubbies. Men were allowed into the adjacent areas where their girlfriend/wife/mistress could "model" their purchases without everyone in the place seeing them. A store employee was always around.... typically (back then) an attractive young woman.

My wife wasn't shy about modeling in front of me in that scenario, but was also a bit more "adventurous" than she is now.

I miss those days.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 19, 2023 05:27 PM (Q4IgG)

261 "She's tried a lot of bras, none of them help. I feel bad for her."

Try a corset. Not the lingerie ones, but a proper historical foundation garment with steel or whalebone. That'll take the load off her shoulders and distribute it across her hips and the rest of her torso.

... probably have to be custom made, if course.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 19, 2023 05:27 PM (ou9hh)

262 Sadly, I don’t think there will be any VS angels at the TXMOME

Posted by: Perfessor Squirrel at October 19, 2023 05:28 PM (f+qeM)

263 Posted by: Boswell at October 19, 2023 05:22 PM (K+UlC)

I keep getting ads on here for "Grandmother designs bra for older woman" (I don't know if that's because I'm an older woman or because there are so many references to breasts on here, that it seems like a natural ad for ASHQ) but the bra looks pretty sturdy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 19, 2023 05:28 PM (RSbhh)

264 VS stuff was designed for the models they flaunted on the runway. If you had any curves, forget it, nothing fit. And there is nothing more demoralizing than trying on bras, nightgowns etc, half of which you can’t even get on. Lots of overpriced perfume, lots of pink, thongs, bikinis etc. I hate wearing logos and they got into logoing their merchandise bigly. I have not been in a VS in years.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 19, 2023 05:28 PM (MhKgR)

265 "the U.S. Women's soccer star"
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I laughed when I read that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2023 05:28 PM (YqDXo)

266 "All of your old, undesirable customers remember that you decided that they were old and undesirable, and told them you did not want to sell to them any longer, and only wanted to sell to a new, more desirable (LOL) diverse customer base made up exclusively of People of Color, People of Size, and People of Made-Up Genders."

I am starting to use the term 'People of Pronouns.'

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at October 19, 2023 05:28 PM (d9Cw3)

267 "I never found the VS "angels" attractive."

You are defective sorry to tell you. Or gay.

You are on the wrong site for virtue...I hope.

Posted by: DOYLE at October 19, 2023 05:29 PM (Z8Yh2)

268 I once went in the lingerie room with a chick.
Don't recommend it.

Posted by: 45 at October 19, 2023 05:29 PM (5FPX4)

269 Just over a year after The Daily Wire announced its commitment to invest $100 million into kids’ entertainment, and on the 100th anniversary of Disney’s founding … The brand-new Bentkey app is available now with over 150 episodes of 18 shows — including four Bentkey originals. New episodes will arrive every Saturday morning, and new series will be added to the platform on an ongoing basis.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2023 05:29 PM (A+M5E)

270 What if we put a pink bow on her penis?
Posted by: I'm going to mark you down as a "maybe." at October 19, 2023 05:01 PM (6z4VY)

[throws up a little...]

Posted by: Preston Brooks at October 19, 2023 05:29 PM (Rbu5d)

271 Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 19, 2023 05:26 PM (ie4Do)

Based AF

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 19, 2023 05:29 PM (Vf6Ay)

272 But, but...

Posted by: Dove soap at October 19, 2023 05:30 PM (XeU6L)

273 Looks like a nood

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at October 19, 2023 05:31 PM (OX9vb)

274 Sidney Powell pleads guilty and becomes a State's witness. Always be the first co-conspirator to do a deal unless you want to rot in prison for a decade or more.

Popcorn
Posted by: John Boehner laughing at October 19, 2023 05:24 PM (Plj5l)

Always get on the train when its moving out of the station, right.

Except in this deal - the prosecution basically gave up - $6K in fines is jaywalking. Her plea suggests she needs to present to court that she plead guilty, and that is it, even when presenting evidence to the court on others - no further elaboration or testimony. Faced with millions of legal fees - yeah, they let her go.

Posted by: Boswell at October 19, 2023 05:31 PM (K+UlC)

275 >>> I'd wouldn't mind being stuck in an ATM with Jill Goodacre.
Posted by: spindrift

Hmmm, ATM?

Let's bing up some some images of what that might be...
Best hit 'safe search' off the best results.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 19, 2023 05:31 PM (cOq4q)

276 What if we put a pink bow on her penis?
Posted by: I'm going to mark you down as a "maybe." at October 19, 2023 05:01 PM (6z4VY)

I LOLed

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 19, 2023 05:31 PM (17s+e)

277 Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2023 05:29 PM (A+M5E)

Won’t give a dime to Ben Shapiro.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 19, 2023 05:31 PM (Vf6Ay)

278 Gov. Sarah Sanders (R-AR) signs an executive order banning "woke" terms like "pregnant people" from being used in state government.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2023 05:31 PM (A+M5E)

279 First they made ads with fat, ugly women and expected us to buy their products and we said no. When that didn't work they made ads with fat, ugly men caricaturing women and expected us to buy their product and we said hell, no.

Let me guess, these ad executives were educated at Harvard, like the ones who signed decorations supporting baby killers Hamas. Why do I get the feeling our academia is not the Ivory Tower but the Tower of Babel.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at October 19, 2023 05:32 PM (3JfbU)

280 You are on the wrong site for virtue...I hope.
Posted by: DOYLE at October 19, 2023 05:29 PM (Z8Yh2)

Heh, whatever.

I've been married to a fantastic woman for going on 30 years, who has no need for the crap that VS pushes.

You should be so lucky.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 19, 2023 05:32 PM (MkuC5)

281 277 Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2023 05:29 PM (A+M5E)

Won’t give a dime to Ben Shapiro.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One
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Shapiro, I'll pass but if he's putting out good content that attracts kids it's a good thing.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2023 05:33 PM (A+M5E)

282 Does VS make a tuck friendly thong?

Asking for a fuckin freak.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 19, 2023 05:34 PM (17s+e)

283 282 Does VS make a tuck friendly thong?

Asking for a fuckin freak.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 19, 2023 05:34 PM (17s+e)

Check with Doyle.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 19, 2023 05:34 PM (MkuC5)

284 Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2023 05:33 PM (A+M5E)

PragerU and Tuttle Twins. Fuck that midget.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 19, 2023 05:35 PM (Vf6Ay)

285 223. DeSantis is not paying for that. Somewhere in Florida s state budget was the money he used to do that. It bugs me that posters here want Trump to personally pay to correct every failing of the US government.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 19, 2023 05:35 PM (MhKgR)

286 Hanes.
Posted by: Zek
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Seconded.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2023 05:35 PM (XeU6L)

287 Wait. Maxim Magazine still exists in any form?

Will the AU version of the magazine feature the Hottest Abo Ever?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 19, 2023 04:33 PM (J2vNu)

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It will have to be the Big Man from an Outback community who hogs all the money and beats the crap out of wife and the children. Why do you think more than 60% of Australian voters said no in a referendum that proposed entrenching the aboriginal culture in their constitution?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at October 19, 2023 05:35 PM (3JfbU)

288 I am starting to use the term 'People of Pronouns.'

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at October 19, 2023 05:28 PM (d9Cw3)

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I think it was a recent Michael Walsh piece that JJ linked (the one referencing "The Gods Of The Copybook Headings") where he referred them as "pseudo-pronouns."

I do like People of Pronouns (POP?) though as a mocking play on People of Color.

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 19, 2023 05:38 PM (ie4Do)

289 285 223. DeSantis is not paying for that. Somewhere in Florida s state budget was the money he used to do that. It bugs me that posters here want Trump to personally pay to correct every failing of the US government.
Posted by: Jen the original at October 19, 2023 05:35 PM (MhKgR)

Of course he's not paying for it personally. Point is that 49 other Governors and a President didn't lift a finger to do anything, even though they could have done the same.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 19, 2023 05:38 PM (i9ffA)

290 Also I like big shoulders and arms, so she can hold me tight and protect me from the great big scary world at night.

*******

Don't forget the chin stubble that you can use to loofah your stubborn clogged pores.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 19, 2023 05:39 PM (l4B/J)

291 Won’t give a dime to Ben Shapiro.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One
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Shapiro, I'll pass but if he's putting out good content that attracts kids it's a good thing.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2023 05:33 PM (A+M5E)

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Agree. I'm rather irritated by Shapiro's stile and even some of his stands but he is miles in front of any "influencer" whether in the professional propagandist media or on the internet.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at October 19, 2023 05:39 PM (3JfbU)

292 I always thought the chivalrous thing to do when running across a girl in some bikini or lacy underwear was to avoid looking at all the exposed skin and focus on the parts that were covered. Same with touching... it's dangerous to let your hands wander over all that skin, so you have to keep your hands to the parts that are covered.

For some reason my wife thinks that is not very valid thinking. Can't imagine why.

Posted by: GanGanowicz at October 19, 2023 05:41 PM (AxRGS)

293 This is better now on penis

https://youtu.be/MZ35SOU9HTM

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 19, 2023 05:41 PM (mNmNo)

294 Sidney Powell pleads guilty and becomes a State's witness.

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So it turns out she was the Kraken. Certainly looks like one.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at October 19, 2023 05:42 PM (3JfbU)

295 Victoria's secret??? Isn't that the company owned by the really good friend of Jeffery Epstein???
He is the largest hop donor in Ohio.
He is way sleazy

Posted by: Paul at October 19, 2023 05:42 PM (DeiBB)

296 We need to go the way of Japan. They have stores for fat chicks and they are named after fat chucks.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 19, 2023 05:19 PM (Vf6Ay)

I always thought about opening a store for large women. Call it "Fatshions." Get Al Bundy to run it.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 19, 2023 05:42 PM (Angsy)

297 Better bow, not better now. Foolish auto-cucumber!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 19, 2023 05:43 PM (mNmNo)

298 Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2023 05:33 PM (A+M5E)

PragerU and Tuttle Twins. Fuck that midget.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 19, 2023 05:35 PM (Vf6Ay)

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Heard him interviewed on some national talk radio show yesterday hocking his book -- and at the end it was mentioned that he was Jeremy somebody from the Daily Wire.

Isn't that the fraud who started Jeremy's Razors and then went full tranny #Woke after fooling all of his conservative customers?

Black Rifle Coffee 2: Fool the Rubes Boogaloo.

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 19, 2023 05:44 PM (ie4Do)

299 In 2022 he gave 1/4 mil to the GOP gov campaign fund
No longer woke? Big surprise ?

Posted by: Paul at October 19, 2023 05:44 PM (DeiBB)

300 A good woman should provide heat in the winter and shade in the summer.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Psalm 83 at October 19, 2023 05:44 PM (T/Lqj)

301 Nood

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 19, 2023 05:45 PM (mNmNo)

302 LAST!!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Psalm 83 at October 19, 2023 05:46 PM (T/Lqj)

303 In the 92nd spot on the list, Maxim Australia included Dani Laidley, a transgender woman. Laidley was a coach in the Australian Football League before transitioning in 2020.
________________

Headline: "From Coach to Cooch"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2023 05:46 PM (YqDXo)

304 I keep getting ads on here for "Grandmother designs bra for older woman" (I don't know if that's because I'm an older woman or because there are so many references to breasts on here, that it seems like a natural ad for ASHQ) but the bra looks pretty sturdy.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 19, 2023 05:28 PM (RSbhh)

Hi Fen - yes, I see these here and I suggest them to my wife, but, she being Italian and stubborn - she likes where she gets hers. I think hers are non-supportive, but I am a man and no say, apparently. I get it, but I think she hunches over too much.

Posted by: Boswell at October 19, 2023 05:47 PM (K+UlC)

305 I always thought about opening a store for large women. Call it "Fatshions." Get Al Bundy to run it.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 19, 2023 05:42 PM (Angsy)

If I had throw-away money to invest, I'd do it just to see the public's reaction.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 19, 2023 05:48 PM (BdMk6)

306 Posted by: Boswell at October 19, 2023 05:47 PM (K+UlC)

I am sorry: it sounds uncomfortable for her.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 19, 2023 05:51 PM (sOtT6)

307 Don't forget the chin stubble that you can use to loofah your stubborn clogged pores.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 19, 2023 05:39 PM (l4B/J)

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That's hot!

... and so romantic.

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 19, 2023 05:55 PM (MG2xz)

308 Thank you for this well-written post! The dripping sarcasm absolutely made my day! Victoria's Secret and Maxim magazine have no credibility left whatsoever.

Posted by: Ralph Z at October 19, 2023 06:08 PM (zhfCB)

309 Associate professor,Mika Tosca, a trans-identified leftist activist and associate professor at the School of Arts Institute of Chicago (SAIC) wrote a screed against Israelis on Instagram, dehumanizing them as "pigs" and "irredeemable excrement ...calling them "savages" and wishing that they "all rot in hell."

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2023 06:21 PM (A+M5E)

310 >>>PragerU and Tuttle Twins. ...

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One
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Haven't read one comment,ever, on any site, saying my kids love PragerU or Tuttle Twins.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2023 06:24 PM (A+M5E)

311 There's only 91 women in Australia? Who knew?

Posted by: Max Entropy at October 19, 2023 10:02 PM (rGssv)

312 @MAXIM australian hottie I wondered what happened to james may and now I know

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