The Morning Report — 10/9/23

Good morning, kids. I suppose I should be heartened by a photo I saw of the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin lit up with the Israeli flag. Probably because the last time Europe in general had positive attitudes towards Israel was in the wake of the horrific 1972 Munich Olympic massacre. But it's been steadily downhill ever since. Like most of Europe these days, Germany's antipathy to the Jewish state is likely attributable, and in proportion to its desire for national suicide by mass immigration from Muslim countries. Of course, even before what is likely an irreversible trend in a complete shift of demographics started, you had well over a thousand years of innate Western anti-Semitism culminating in the years 1933-1945, which has never been totally expunged from the psyche of successive generations of native Europeans. It may no longer be socialism of the "National" variety, but the socialist poison lingers.

Funny how Europeans get all misty and weepy over the six million-plus Jewish victims of the Nazis. Living and breathing Jews finally living freely as Jews in their own land after 2,000 years of Diaspora? Not so much. So here we are, 51 years after Munich, and 80 years after Birkenau and Babi Yar. Lots of "I Stand with Israel" sloganeering on social media and elsewhere (which will last until it's time to once again change an avatar to support transexuals, Ukraine, Ukrainian transexuals or whatever the daily soap opera dictates). But realist that I am these days, it's hard for me to believe that this time eyes have been opened and attitudes changed.

The attitudes of the usual suspects whose pecan-sized reptilian notochords have been thoroughly pickled in blood-libels and propaganda are beyond redemption. Just as the minds of so-called "moderate Muslims" who, while not gunning down, running through or gang-raping women, children and the elderly are nevertheless nodding their heads in approval of what some hideous leftist cvnt described as "decolonization."

Worst of all, apparently are Jews whose status as coreligionists I view as a tragic accident of birth. The closest thing to Judaism they've ever had got snipped off the end of their whatsits' at 8 days old. That and a bowl of Matzoh ball soup at a woke Passover seder, equating Pharaoh and Egypt with Trump and America. While I have bemoaned the fact that far too many American Jews have sold their birthright for a fake orgasm-inducing pastrami at Katz's Deli, I deluded myself with the notion that Israeli Jews knowing full well what's at stake stand unified and ready to defend their nation. After all, "Never Again" means never again, right? How wrong I was on that score.

For a sneak attack of the size Hamas launched against Israel to have happened (5,000 rockets, parachuters, towns infiltrated, Iranian and, possibly, Ukrainian involvement), there must have been an absolutely epic intelligence failure both in Israel and, to the extent the U.S. helps Israel with information, here in America, too. I have two ideas about how that could have happened, both of which are premised on significant problems within the two country’s intelligence services (especially Israel’s). I’ll start with the one that bespeaks actual evil and then get to the more likely one, which reflects human nature.

Some suggest that the Mossad is no longer working with the Israeli government but is, instead, doing whatever it can to undermine it. I’m perfectly ready to believe that. If you’ve been following the news about the reforms Netanyahu wanted to make to an out-of-control leftist judicial system in Israel, you know that many in the military and the Mossad were against Bibi’s actions. We’ve already seen in America that Deep State members cease to feel loyalty to their country as a whole and, instead, will use their government positions solely to advance one political party over the other.

Thus, it’s possible that anti-government personnel in Israel and anti-Israel personnel in the State Department in America (the ones who maybe could have helped prevent the attack) didn’t pay too much attention to chatter about a Hamas attack. They may have thought it would be like others before, with a little death here and a little death there. That would be enough to harm Netanyahu’s government without seriously harming Israel. . .

. . . That’s a very scary idea. But here’s something that’s just as disturbing: Nobody caught what was about to happen because of institutional incompetence. Whether at home or abroad, our “intelligence” types may no longer be that intelligent. . . I’d prefer to believe in entropy over evil. Both would have exposed Israel to the events that occurred, but entropy can be fixed now that fear is again resurgent. Evil is a corrosive rot that is almost impossible to root out.

Ho Lee Fook, bubbie.

One of the oldest rules in American gangland was formulated by Murray "the Camel" Humphreys of the Capone mob in Chicago: "If you ever have to cock a gun in a man's face, kill him. If you walk away without killing him after doing that, he'll kill you the next day." The Israelis could have, and should have, finished the Iran-adjacent Hamas terrorist organization when they had the chance, but of course they did not, and this is the result. 

Now reality bites. Hamas -- the indirect recipient of part of the $6 billion in Iranian fund recently unfrozen by the ghastly Biden administration as part of a prisoner-swap deal -- remains as dedicated to the destruction of the Jewish state (about a fifth of whose citizens are Arabs) as ever and have a rocked an always-contentious nation (a sizable proportion of the population of which doesn't even believe it should exist and don't serve in the nation's armed forces) back on its heels with the latest coordinated attacks across the border. Israel must fight, of course, and thanks to its client-state relationship with the U.S. it will have the wherewithal to do it, at least for a while. Indeed, warships and planes are already on their way. . .

. . . The left in Israel has been gunning for Netanyahu for years via lawfare and its opposition to his proposal to reform Israel's supreme court. Perhaps if the country had spent more time and attention on the threats to its existence in its own back yard instead of arguing about petty politics its officials might not have been asleep at the switch Saturday, but here we are. No matter what happens, this is likely to be the end of Bibi and his spit-and-baling-wire political coalition, and will crack open even more the fissures in Israeli society. Indeed, the attack is being called "Israel's 9/11" and illustrates the folly of not finishing one's enemies given the chance . . .

. . . The cries are already coming for some sort of American involvement, especially considering the number of Israelis with dual passports, but that would be unwise; with the Ukraine mess still reeking from the bottomless stink of the Midget and his unaccountable hold over much of the western world in a cause he can only lose (but surely is privately profiting from), the last thing America needs now is to get involved in another foreign squabble. It can and will be argued that the U.S. has a duty to support its only real ally in the Middle East; it can be equally argued -- as Osama bin Laden certainly did -- that Israel is little more than the last Crusader state, the medieval County of Tripoli and the Kingdom of Jerusalem redux, and thus a foreign body to be violently expelled from the body of the Islamic ummah.

Friend and friend of the blog Michael Walsh also raises a thorny problem for many of us, myself included. How can those of us who support Israel and perhaps have a desire to render American aid and assistance at the same time decry – and rightly so – wasting tens and perhaps hundreds of billions of dollars as well as American boots on the ground in Ukraine? I think that question deserves a post all its own and its a topic that we will for sure be covering on the next podcast which will hopefully post late today or early tomorrow.

But Walsh also discusses "the folly of not finishing one's enemies." Beyond the practical and the political, one must first understand the very nature of the enemy. I can't speak for Israeli governments past and present, but for sure governments here and in the West have no idea with whom they are dealing. Or likely they do not want to know.

Media analysts are describing the latest attacks as a retaliation for Israel’s supposed desecration of the al-Aqsa Mosque, or for “settlement” activity, and all the usual half-truths, distortions and outright lies that characterize establishment media coverage of Israel. Ultimately, however, this is happening not because of al-Aqsa, or because of any “occupation,” since the “occupation” is a propaganda fiction anyway. It’s happening because of the Islamic imperative to fight Jews.

A hadith says: “Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.” (Sahih Muslim 6985) Read the beginning of the words attributed to Muhammad again: “The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight the Jews and the Muslims would kill them.”

So this is not a hadith about the “last day.” It is a hadith about the conditions under which the “last day” will come about, and how Muslims can bring about the “last day”: by killing Jews. The true believers of Hamas are busy doing it now. . .

. . . This idea didn’t originate with ISIS. Many Muslim clerics have been saying it for years. According to The Palestinian Delusion: The Catastrophic History of the Middle East Peace Process, Egyptian imam Muhammad Hussein Ya’qoub made the same point back in 2009 when he said: “If the Jews left Palestine to us, would we start loving them? Of course not. We will never love them. Absolutely not. The Jews are infidels—not because I say so, and not because they are killing Muslims, but because Allah said: ‘The Jews say that Uzair is the son of Allah, and the Christians say that Christ is the son of Allah. These are the words from their mouths. They imitate the sayings of the disbelievers before. May Allah fight them. How deluded they are.’ [Qur’an 9:30] It is Allah who said that they are infidels.”

. . . It is because of such views that Palestinian jihadis rape, torture, and murder Israeli civilians and then celebrate having done so. It is the resolute refusal of the Biden regime to acknowledge the Islamic aspect of the conflict that leads it to continue to prescribe the wrong solutions for that conflict, and to pressure Israel when it should be pressuring the Palestinians. Twenty-two years after 9/11, the jihadis’ best friends are in the White House.

There are (as usual!) a number of links from friend and friend of the blog Robert Spencer with his analysis of the situation, from the Islamic perspective on this. As I said above, westerners either do not know or do not want to know what this is all about: a centuries-long totalitarian movement to conquer and subjugate the world. The irony of course, is that this is the exact goal of the godless heathens of globalism and socialism. In fact, take away the fancy calligraphy, interesting geometric design motifs and the trappings of religion, Islam and totalitarian socialism are about as close as Bro-fo Omar and her bro whom she fo (poetic license since the bro is a neck-slicing joy-buzzer-clipping savage as she is).

When 9/11 happened and Dubya declared we are not at war with Islam, and that it was a religion of peace, but that we were at war with "Terror," we were fucked right then and there. Or that what happened that day was a culmination of what had been brewing at least in the previous decade. In the grand scheme of things, it had been brewing since the Muslim hordes were stopped at the gates of Vienna in the early 17th century and then when the Ottoman empire fell at the end of the First World War.

But they never stopped. As civilization advanced and passed them by – that being a debatable notion when you look around at the state of western culture these days – they remained in the 7th century. They cannot "reform." They will not reform. This is a generational struggle that now has an army of over one billion members and growing fast.

The only way we could have won in Afghanistan and Iraq – that we should have won in Afghanistan and Iraq was to not even invade. We should have nuke Qom and Medina and made the announcement, "The next time you do something like that, Mecca gets taken off the map."

Then again, in the wake of invading the aforementioned, we should have mercilessly and violently conquered the nation, imposed unforgiving martial law and de-Nazified the populace. I.E. de-Islamified the populace. Of course, we all know what happened.

But this is what Israel will have to do. I don't think it has the will to do so. Just like us.

ABOVE THE FOLD, BREAKING, NOTEWORTHY
• Michael Walsh: One of the oldest rules in American gangland was formulated by Murray "the Camel" Humphreys of the Capone mob in Chicago: "If you ever have to cock a gun in a man's face, kill him. If you walk away without killing him after doing that, he'll kill you the next day." The Israelis could have, and should have, finished the Iran-adjacent Hamas terrorist organization when they had the chance, but of course they did not, and this is the result. 
  Reality Bites
  
• Roger Kimball: "As I say, things are always worse than they seem."
  Thoughts on Proclamation 7463, or ‘Digital McCarthyism’ on the Move
  
• Daniel Greenfield: "As the possible next mayor of Houston, [Sheila Jackass-Lee] will be seeing lots of hurricanes, but it’s the city that will be hit by the catastrophic force of stupidity that is America’s dumbest congresswoman."
  The Dumbest Congresswoman Could Be the Mayor of the 4th Biggest City in U.S.

ISRAEL AT WAR
• "Dozens of people were held hostage earlier on Saturday in the kibbutz dining hall for Horus. However, Israel Defense Forces engaged in a gun battle with the Palestinian terrorists who infiltrated the Kibbutz region in southern Israel. The terrorists who were holding the hostages were reportedly neutralized. At least 48 people were rescued from the hostage situation."
  Israel Defense Forces Rescue 48 Hostages from Kibbutz Dining Hall
  
• On Saturday, the Supernova music festival attended by approximately 3,000 people in the Negev desert near Kibbutz Re’im quickly turned from a joyous occasion marking the Jewish holiday of Sukkot into a “massacre” as Hamas terrorists raided the event from the nearby Gaza Strip. The attack came as Palestine waged a series of surprise attacks on Israel on Shemini Atzeret, the final day of the annual High Holy Day cycle.
  Survivors of Music Festival Hamas Attack Recount ‘Horror Movie’ Massacre That Left Hundreds Dead
  
• "The actions from the administration come after U.S. officials said that preliminary reports show at least four American citizens were killed and seven others have gone missing and that some were kidnapped and are being held hostage."
  Biden Attends BBQ After Americans Murdered In Israel; Blinken Urges Ceasefire
  
• Robert Spencer: "Would there even be a war at all if not for all the money that the Biden regime has showered upon Iran and the Palestinians? The only thing we can say for sure about that is that back when Bad Orange Man was president and the United States wasn’t raining cash on those who scream 'Death to Israel' and 'Death to America,' there was nothing like the bloodletting an appalled world witnessed in Israel Saturday. Has Hamas’ Khaled Meshaal called the White House yet and exclaimed 'We did it, Joe!'?"
  Are American Weapons From Afghanistan and Ukraine Being Used Against Israel?
  
• Robert Spencer Part Deux: "Twenty-two years after 9/11, the jihadis’ best friends are in the White House."
  The Biden Regime Should Admit the Real Causes of the Jihad Against Israel
  
• "A day after the surprise attack which reportedly killed at least 600 Israelis and wounded 2,000 others, Israeli soldiers fought Iranian-backed Hamas terrorists in the streets of southern Israel, Fox News reported. Fighting was also reported with Lebanon’s Iran-backed Hezbollah militants in the north, according to the outlet."
  "Significant Military Activities" Authorized After Israeli Security Cabinet Confirms War Status
  
• “We will continue to attack in this way, with this force, continuously, on all gathering (places) and routes” linked to Hamas, Israeli Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari told the AP.
  Videos Show Massive Explosions As Israeli Fighter Jets Hammer Gaza Targets In Retaliatory Strikes
  
• "Israel's Netanyahu: ‘Citizens of Israel, we are at war.’"
  Hamas Attacks Israel on the 50th Anniversary of the October 1973 War
  
• "The round strikes the engine compartment, which unlike most tanks sits at the front of the Merkava, and the vehicle immediately catches fire from the inside."
  Watch: Palestinians Use Drones to Attack and Cripple Israeli Tanks
  
• The Pentagon will begin transferring an unspecified amount of security assistance to Israel, including ammunition, Sunday that is expected to reach the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in “the coming days,” Austin said in the statement. Meanwhile, Austin, at the direction of [so-called quote-unquote "president"] Joe Biden, has ordered the U.S.S. Gerald R. Ford along with its strike group to the Eastern Mediterranean and moved to enhance fighter aircraft squadrons in the region.
  Pentagon Sends Largest Aircraft Carrier to the Middle East, Says Military Aid Will Soon Reach Israel
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• Brokeback Booker and Dan Goldman. I better not write what we're all probably thinking - jjs
  Democrat US Senator, Congressman Say They Were Stuck In Israel During Deadly Attack
  
• "Let's be clear: the deal to bring U.S. citizens home from Iran has nothing to do with the horrific attack on Israel," State Department spokesman Matthew Miller said on Saturday as numerous analysts and GOP lawmakers blamed the Biden administration for helping to fund Hamas's historic war. "Not a penny has been spent, and when it is, it can only go for humanitarian needs like food and medicine. Anything to the contrary is false."
  Biden Junta Adamant Its $6 Billion Hostage Deal Had No Connection to Hamas Attacks. Critics Are Not So Sure.
  
• "You have to wonder if Israel will punish Iran directly for the attack. Perhaps Prime Minister Netanyahu would take the opportunity and destroy Iran’s nuclear infrastructure. If he does, Iran can’t say it hasn’t been warned."
  Iran is Orchestrating Hamas' Attack. Will Hezbollah Strike Israel Next?
  
• "Will the Israeli military finally be allowed to do whatever it takes?"
  Israel’s Counter-Offensive
  
• "The Radical-in-Chief helped spawn the jihad terror group's current mayhem and destruction inside the Jewish state."
  How Obama Enabled Hamas’ Terror Attack on Israel
  
• "It is a precious thing for a country to have a military whose strength, intelligence, and reliability discourages war-making against it, and it would be a catastrophe if the perception and reality of Israel’s military were to be replaced by incompetence, weakness, and lack of vision."
  On Israel’s 9/11, Jewish State Must Settle For Nothing Less Than Total Victory
  
• "Israel can look to Gen. Eisenhower’s Proclamation No. 1, issued when Allied forces entered Germany in 1945, as a guide in the coming war." (Then you have to de-Nazify a little over 1 billion Muslims - jjs)
  Israel Must Eradicate Hamas And Accept Nothing Less Than Unconditional Surrender
  
• Pro-Hamas demonstrations occurred in the United States, United Kingdom, Germany, and elsewhere on Saturday and Sunday. In New York City, for example, demonstrators chanted that the terrorist assault was "justified." They also chanted, "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free," a phrase that calls for the Jewish state's eradication.
  WATCH: Terrorist Sympathizers Celebrate Hamas's Assault on Israeli Citizens
  
• "How do we trace the origins and the motivations of Hamas's latest attack on Israel?"
  The Blood Deal
  
• The Biden [junta], however, signaled that it didn’t want Israel to defend itself in a post on X from the U.S. Office of Palestinian Affairs. “We unequivocally condemn the attack of Hamas terrorists and the loss of life that has incurred,” the post read. “We urge all sides to refrain from violence and retaliatory attacks. Terror and violence solve nothing.” The post sparked significant outrage from Republicans and was quickly deleted. The State Department claims that it “was not approved and does not represent U.S. policy.” That seems unlikely.
  The Biden Junta's First Reaction to Hamas Attack Was to Call on Israel Not to Retaliate
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• "Neither is a happy theory, although one bespeaks evil while the other (the more likely one) merely reflects human nature."
  A Couple of Possibilities to Explain Israel's (and America's) Intelligence Failures
  
• Miranda Devine: "Any honest postmortem will have to include a damning judgment of the bumbling fools who currently control US foreign ­policy."
  Reckoning Needed After Biden's Failed Foreign Policy Gave Hamas' Terror the Element of Surprise
  
• "Support for the Israel tends to shrink when the Jewish state fights back."
  Is Ally Support for Israel Firm?
  
• "Hamas has put the lie to the notion that ‘one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.’"
  There Is No ‘Moral Equivalence’ Now
  
• Former Trump Admin U.S. Ambassador to Israel David Friedman:"This was very, very difficult to watch, painful to watch. I’m here in Jerusalem. I was in and out of shelters all day long. Jewish people murdered, civilians murdered, pulled out of their homes all through an expensive, highly sophisticated attack with lethal and advanced equipment. How did Hamas get all that stuff? They don’t earn any money it is a terrorist organization.”
  Jewish People Seeing Some of the Most Barbaric Acts Since the Holocaust
  
• "With hundreds of Israelis killed and many more kidnapped or injured by the anti-Semitic Arab supremacists of Hamas, the rhetorical war for Israel has begun."
  The Rhetorical War for Israel
  
• "The past is prologue. Hamas hides military assets among civilians, including at and near hospitals, knowing that civilian casualties will increase international pressure on Israel. Keep that in mind as Israel responds to Hamas’ brutal attack on Israel in which several hundred people have died, thousands injured, and at least dozens kidnapped to Gaza."
  Flashback 2014: Hamas Hides In, Under and Around Gaza's Main Hospital, and the Media Covers It Up (Video)
  
• Tilley’s remarks were quickly criticized by many online, with the Conservative Member of Parliament Brendan Clarke-Smith arguing, “I’m not sure I’d describe what [Hamas] is doing right now as ‘brave’ either [Chloe Tilley].” The National Pulse reached out to Ms. Tilly for comment, whereupon she highlighted a statement made on X (formerly Twitter) yesterday: “Four hours of live broadcasting sometimes we choose the wrong words in the moment but I’m always willing to acknowledge it.” (Cvnt - jjs)
  Murdoch Journo ‘Sorry’ After Hailing ‘Bravery, Intensity’ of Hamas
  
• Hasan reposted a number of posts that sought to shift the blame from Hamas to Israel, including, one that read: “unprecedented failure of israel intelligence—the most important component of the country’s national security…utter desperation of gaza palestinians, with many seeing no options for their future but the launch of a suicidal war.”
  MSNBC’s Mehdi Hasan is Amplifying Anti-Israel Content Right Now
  
• The X post suggests that those on the Left who bandy about terms like “decolonization” but don’t support the terrorism of Hamas are hypocrites, and that that is exactly what the leftist academics are pushing for with that language.
  WaPo Columnist Celebrates Anti-Jew Terrorism as Exactly What ‘Decolonization’ Means

  OFFICIAL DEMOCRAT PARTY/LEFTIST-ENDORSED ANTI-SEMITISM, ANTI-CHRISTIANITY

• [Coelacanth-faced, poison-dripping, sub-human bacteria Rancida] Tlaib called for an end to U.S. financial support for the Israeli “apartheid government,” also stating that “lifting the blockade, ending the occupation and dismantling the apartheid system that creates the suffocating, dehumanizing conditions that can lead to resistance” by Palestinian factions are necessary to stop the violence, according to the statement obtained by the Detroit News.
  ‘Squad’ Dems Weigh In After Terrorists Murder Hundreds In Israel
  
• “Never mind the hundreds of Israeli civilians and children who have been murdered, wounded, abducted, and terrorized. Their lives mean nothing to the DSA. Nothing,” Rep. Ritchie Torres (D-NY) wrote in response Saturday. “The NYC-DSA is revealing itself for what it truly is: an antisemitic stain on the soul of America’s largest city.”
  Report: Democrat Socialists of America to Rally, Cheer Hamas Terrorist Attack on Israel
  
• You better believe the millions who poured in over the border these last three years aren't just Latino peasants looking to pick lettuce - jjs
  Police Beef Up Security at Jewish Synagogues [redundant] Across U.S. After Hamas Attacks Israel

  BIDEN CRIME FAMILY REVELATIONS

• "It’s important to note that Weiss intentionally postponed an inquiry into Hunter’s allegedly criminal activities because he believed it would hamper then-candidate Joe Biden’s 2020 presidential aspirations."
  Hunter Biden is So Used to Being Above the Law, He’s Citing a Rejected Plea Deal to Claim ‘Immunity’

  SHAMPEACHMENT 1.0, 2016 CLINTON/OBAMA COUP, CONGRESSIONAL PERSECUTION, SPYGATE, DEEP STATE, MUELLER DECEPTION

• "Trump is arguing that presidents, even after their term is over, are absolutely immune from criminal prosecutions arising out of their acts in office."
  Why Trump’s Presidential Immunity Defense May Just Lead to an Election Indictment Dismissal

  CIVIL WAR 2.0: J-6 FBI FALSE FLAG "RIOT" & AFTERMATH, LEFTIST PERSECUTIONS, DEMOCRAT PUTSCH, AMERICAN DISSOLUTION

• Clarice Feldman: "There’s nothing new and nothing funny about the totalitarian impulse on the Left."
  Hillary Drops the Veil on Her Party’s Totalitarianism
  
• “Are you ready for that knock on your door in the middle of the night saying ‘come with us?’ Have you had that conversation with your family? Have you had that conversation with your friends? Are you prepared for what's coming? Are you afraid?"
  Jack Posobiec: Conservatives Are Facing the "First Stages of the Red Winter"
  
• Robert Zimmerman: "The lawfare from the left against Elon Musk, one of the most successful Americans in decades, is becoming quite obvious. Besides this private suit, another group of environmentalists are suing SpaceX and the FAA to block future launches from Boca Chica. The Biden [junta] meanwhile is using numerous agencies to gang up on Musk: the Justice Department is suing it for not illegally hiring illegal immigrants, the FAA and Fish & Wildlife are blocking its Superheavy/Starship test launches, the EEOC is suing Tesla while Justice and the SEC investigate it, and the FTC and SEC are investigating Musk’s purchase of Twitter."
  Another Lawsuit Filed Against SpaceX
  
• "The wrangling in Israel around its Supreme Court issue is little more than elites seeking to assert their own divine right to rule without actual democracy."
  Democracy Without the People

  FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES, CENSORSHIP, FAKE NEWS, MEDIA, BIG BROTHER TECH

• “You all are not the happiest people in the world — what you report. And I mean it sincerely. It gets a more little — you get more legs when you’re reporting something that’s negative.” (Looks like even Sponge-Brain Shits-Pants understands that his own propaganda machine wants him gone - jjs)
  Joe Biden: Media to Blame for Why Most Americans Don’t Feel Good About the Economy
  
• "The database, titled 'ashkenazi DNA Data of Celebrities,' contains the information of 999,999 alleged users of the service, including their names, gender, and the evaluation of their ancestral origins provided by 23andMe. Despite the title of the database, it primarily consists of non-famous individuals and seems to have been filtered to include only those with Ashkenazi heritage."
  A 23andMe Data Hack Appears to Target Ashkenazi Jews
  
• "‘Every single day porn websites are allowing minors to enter into their sites with actually no safeguards,’ the lawmaker said."
  Meet the State Legislator Who Figured Out How to Protect Kids From Vile Images Online

  THE ECONOMY, STUPID

• The Biden [junta] is subsidizing EVs as part of its sweeping climate agenda, while using regulatory actions to further cement their market share in the coming years. “If the market shrinks we don’t need so many plants,” Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares said in January, according to Reuters. “Some unpopular decisions will have to be made.”
  EVs are Costing Auto Manufacturers Billions While Union Strikes Take Their Toll

  RED-GREENS, CLIMATE CHANGE HOAX, DEMOCRAT-LEFT WAR ON FOSSIL FUELS, JUNK SCIENCE, LYSENKOISM

• "The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) announced two actions targeting the use of hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs), chemicals commonly used in refrigerators and air conditioners, as part of the administration’s wider climate agenda, the agency announced Friday. The EPA proposed one HFC-related action and finalized another, the latter of which will restrict HFCs in 40 types of imported or domestically-produced foams, aerosols, refrigeration equipment, air conditioning and heat pumps and push the relevant markets towards embracing more energy efficient products."
  Biden Junta Fires Next Salvo in War on Appliances
  
• "A new, dire threat to our nation has emerged in the years after the conclusion of the Cold War: the rise of the climate change-industrial complex."
  The Climate Change-Industrial Complex is an Existential Threat
  
• "Renewable energy sources are more voracious devourers of taxpayers' dollars than fossil fuels."
  The Green Energy Subsidy Lie
  
• ". . . please give this one a watch, and maybe pass it along to your environmentally hysterical friends, or your kids who are being obsessively propagandized on this topic at school. They deserve to know the truth."
  Are Sea Levels Rising? It's Complicated
  
• "More pie-in-the-sky Down Under."
  Australia's Energy Arsonists

  AMNESTY, IMMIGRATION, BORDER SECURITY

• “You want to take the little scraps of resources we have and put us at the bottom of the barrel? That’s not fair!”
  Chicago Residents Protest Plan to Use Park’s Field House as Housing for Illegal Immigrants
  
• In addition to those disgusting acts, the illegals are demanding status by protesting with signs that read, “better housing,” “safe food and water,” and — this is one of my favorites — “You promised us safe living conditions, but our rights have been violated.”
  Illegals Issue Demands, Claim Their Rights Have Been Violated
  
• So… we guess that ‘acute and immediate need’ for a border wall was bullshit?
  Mayorkas Furiously Backpedals After Claiming ‘Acute & Immediate Need’ For Border Wall
  
• "Whether through legal or political means, it’s time for the city to scrap its unlimited right to shelter." (I was going to say mass deportation, but what do I know? - jjs)
  How to Fix Gotham’s Migrant Mess

  CRIME & PUNISHMENT, NON-DOSTOYEVSKY

• ". . . don’t expect Democrats to change their ways and punish criminals. Democrats are always on the side of the victimizers, not the victims."
  Dem Fail: NYC Felony Assaults on Women Spike 41% in 4 Years
  
• “There is and has been grave public concern regarding public safety in light of reduced enforcement and criminal consequences for various categories of `low-level’ offenses that, despite the nomenclature, have profound and significant impacts on the day-to-day life of whole communities of plaintiff cities and others within the county,” the cities reportedly wrote in the lawsuit."
  12 Cities Sue Los Angeles County Over "Zero Bail" Policy
  
• "Fifty-one years after Burgess’ novel, the Droogs seem starkly familiar: menacingly dressed sociopaths, speaking near-incomprehensible dialect, who burn, loot, and murder their way across the urban landscape."
  A Clockwork Orange of Left-wing Politics
  
• "The death of a leftist underlines the savagery of an America with too few executions, let alone incarcerations."
  The Voice of Thy Brother’s Blood
  
• "The criminal code in America has been eviscerated, but the impetus for greater criminalization gains momentum elsewhere."
  Punishing 'Hate' but Not Criminals

  AMERICA AND THE WORLD IMPRISONED: CHINESE CORONAVIRUS FICTIONS AND FACTS

• "That a medical college seems entirely unaware of this research data tells us that it must be teaching its medical students badly. If I was a student there I would move heaven and earth to transfer out, now, not just to avoid getting the jab but to make sure I am getting properly educated."
  Texas Medical College Mandates Ineffective [Chinese] COVID Jab

  SECOND AMENDMENT

• "Two decisions earlier this year against the ATF’s rule, which was proposed by the Trump administration in the aftermath of the 2017 Las Vegas concert mass shooting that killed 58 and wounded over 500, create a circuit split that makes the ban ripe for review. The government appealed cases from the Fifth and Sixth Circuits to  the Supreme Court, where they are now both scheduled to be considered at the Justices’ Oct. 27 conference."
  Trump’s Bump Stock Ban Is Back Before The Supreme Court. Here’s What Could Happen Next

  EDUCATION, AND WHAT PASSES FOR IT

• ". . . from this information we can identify three board members who believe it is all right for a teenage boy to enter a girls’ bathroom — as long as he puts on a dress. The graphic also tells us that all four votes for this queer policy must have come from women, a fact that is even more troubling, since these adult women apparently cannot grasp the discomfort felt by young girls having boys in their bathrooms."
  Real pushback: Student Walkout in September Forces School Board to Rescind Queer Bathroom Policy
  
• "At the Jesuit university, contrition for slavery is an expensive and ongoing task."
  Georgetown’s Guilt-Industrial Complex

  DEMOCRAT/LEFTIST AND RINO SCANDALS, MESHUGAS, CHUTZPOCRISY

• Byron York: "Another outrageous public embarrassment for Biden."
  The White House Dog Scandal

  POLITICS

• Thad McCotter: "Chaos is the ally of the ambitious, ergo, Rep. Gaetz." (I usually like McCotter but wow. You'll have to judge this for yourselves - jjs)
  The Lesson of ‘Ouster-Gaetz’: The Most Dangerous RINO Is the One Claiming to Be a RINO Hunter
  
• "Kevin McCarthy promised to address the approaching economic crisis. Then he broke that promise."
  The Moral of the McCarthy Saga: Promises Matter
  
• “I also believe this is what happens when we have leading voices like Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Ron DeSantis signalling retreat from America’s role as leader of the free world. What happened in Ukraine was an unprovoked invasion by Russia, what happened this weekend was an unprovoked invasion by Hamas into Israel,” claimed Pence.
  "Ponce" Pence Blames Hamas Terror on Trump, Vivek, and DeSantis?
  
• "What is it about Republicans that prevents them from standing up for themselves when under attack and making false promises to voters, which always get found out?"
  Trump’s Not the Problem – He’s the Reaction to the Problem

  THE UKRAINIAN "FRONT"

• "Biden will, however, wait until a new Speaker of the House is appointed until any deal is finalized, with voting set to begin later this week. The Biden [junta] is currently considering a range of options to secure funding for the war, such as using a State Department grant program to send additional military aid."
  Biden Wants Whopping $100 Billion Aid Package for Ukraine
  
• "Maybe the West should have let Putin and Zelenskyy adhere to the Minsk II accords and allow peace. But then how would the Washington, D.C., swamp-dwellers launder their money? Then there is the military-industrial complex. They want their dough, too."
  https://pjmedia.com/columns/kevindowneyjr/2023/10/08/an-idiots-guide-to-why-russia-and-ukraine-are-fighting-n1733166
  
• "The corruption of Ukraine and of Russia and the Bidens is the main story here"
  Corruption Is Driving the Russia-Ukraine Conflict

  FOREIGN AFFAIRS, INTERNATIONAL

• "Whether it’s our economic policies or the money we’re pouring into Ukraine, we’re making China’s mission easier."
  China’s Goal is World Supremacy, and America is Helping
  
• "Biden’s recent prisoner swap with Iran suggests we haven’t learned a thing from the lessons of Munich, and the dangers of appeasing evil."
  Biden’s Chamberlain Moment
  
• "Obama extended his 'congratulations' to an Iranian freedom fighter who won the Nobel peace prize, but he's also the guy who sent her mullah oppressors the pallets of cash."
  Obama's Hollow "Congratulations" to Iran Nobel Laureate
  
• "Nicaragua’s jailing of Catholic Bishop Rolando Álvarez is a clear violation of the human rights to free speech and religious freedom."
  Nicaragua’s Anti-Christian Ortega Regime Sentenced a Faithful Bishop to 26 Years Behind Bars
  
• "The inmates, all Colombian nationals, were accused of killing the former presidential candidate Fernando Villavicencio, per CBS News. . . Litoral is Ecuador’s largest and one of its most perilous prisons. It has been a frequent site of deadly riots over the past three years. The investigation into Villavicencio’s murder was approaching its conclusion when a disturbance erupted in Litoral prison, raising questions about its potential impact on the ongoing case."
  6 Suspects In Ecuadorian Presidential Candidate’s Assassination Found Killed In Jail
  
• Lloyd Billingsley: "Canada has been welcoming Nazi war criminals since the end of World War II."
  Go North, Young Nazis

  DEFENSE, MILITARY, SECURITY AFFAIRS

• "In addition to suing the Naval Academy, SFFA filed a lawsuit against West Point last month, challenging the institution’s alleged use of race and ethnicity in its admissions process."
  Lawsuit: U.S. Naval Academy’s Consideration of Race in its Admissions Process is Unconstitutional

  WE-ALL-SLAM-FOR-I-SLAM

• Robert Spencer: "This is an issue of heresy and belief. Examples of this kind of rhetoric could be multiplied endlessly. Yet in the next few days, Biden and his cohorts will demand that Israel stop defending itself and return to the negotiating table. You know, some men you just can’t reach."
  Why There Is Never Peace Between Israel and the Palestinians
  
• "When you know Sharia is the law of the land."
  In Sweden, Elderly Denied Milk While Billions are Spent on Muslim Migrants

  DOMESTIC AFFAIRS, THE COURTS, WASTE/FRAUD/ABUSE

• "This is not just some obscure item of decorum. It is a constitutional issue that ignores the ‘advice and consent of the Senate’ required for nominees."
  Biden Evades the Constitution by Letting Failed Nominees be De Facto Agency Heads

  HEALTH AND HEALTH CARE

• Deane Waldman, M.D.: "The workers are clamoring for more money and better working conditions, but that's not what they really want."
  The Real Reason for the Kaiser Health Care Strike

  ACTUAL SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY

• "ULA’s Atlas-5 rocket today successfully launched the first two prototype satellites of Amazon’s proposed 3,200-satellite constellation to provide broadband globally in competition with Starlink and OneWeb."
  ULA’s Atlas-5 rocket launches first two Kuiper satellites
  
• "Though Curiosity still lies more than 13,000 feet below the peak of Mount Sharp, in its ten years on Mars it has climbed a considerable distance uphill since leaving the floor of 97-mile-wide Gale Crater, about 2,400 feet. The panorama above, taken today by one of Curiosity’s navigation cameras and rotated and cropped to post here, gives us a good sense of the elevation the rover has gained in that time."
  Gale Crater as seen by Curiosity from the heights of Mount Sharp

  FEMINAZISM, TRANSGENDER PSYCHOSIS, HOMOSEXUALIZATION, WAR ON MASCULINITY/NORMALCY

• "Equality California is an LGBTQ activist organization that promotes legislation intended to advance LGBTQ priorities and gender ideology in California. The organization often is involved in sponsoring legislation and actively works to lobby on behalf of pro-LGBTQ bills."
  California’s Homo-Pervert LGBTQ Caucus Solicited Over $1 Million For Activist Group Boosting Their Legislation
  
• "Differences in athletic ability of males and females are ‘dictated by sex chromosomes’ and become apparent after puberty, according to the group."
  Sports Medicine Authority Acknowledges "Biological Basis of Sex Differences in Athletic Performance"
  
• "Tucker Carlson’s latest interview pulls back the curtain on ‘Transgender, Inc.’"
  Blood Money: The Rise of the Gender Reassignment Industry
  
• According to this, the women’s swim team at Roanoke College - all ten female members - stood up in unity against a biological male being allowed to join their swim team, saying the school’s cowardice has left them feeling unheard, uncared about, and cast aside in the name of “inclusion.” They’re not wrong.
  Making Waves: Entire College Women's Swim Team Takes a Stand Against 'Trans' Teammate

  CULTURE WARS, NATIONAL SUICIDE

• Christian Toto: "New documentary pits Gilmour v. Waters again in even darker light."
  Can This Pink Floyd Feud Get Any Uglier?
  
• Rabbi Chananya Weissman: "How the real Torah works — and how it doesn't."
  Fake Meat and Fake Rabbinic Rulings

  HITHER & YON

• "Football has lost one of its fiercest defenders."
  RIP #51
  
• "Third-party validators remove – or at least distance – the stink of a terrible or dangerous or illegal proposal or project or plan from the proponent.  And they are very convenient things for the media to use when they try to be 'fair.'"
  The Politics of Third-Party Validation
  
• Peter Hitchens: "The Book of Common Prayer, although mutable and equivocal, is the measuring-stick of Anglophone piety—and ever shall be, world without end."
  The Once and Future Prayer Book
  
• “Stephen . . . sought to subject politics to the cold light of critical reason.”
  An Unsettling Defense of Liberalism

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1 I called 'em.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at October 09, 2023 07:44 AM (qPw5n)

2 Crazy Times

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 09, 2023 07:44 AM (lwOKI)

3
Willowed

The present situation is about as ludicrous as Sudeten Germans launching terrorist attacks on the Czech Republic in 2023 and the world intelligentsia muttering, "Unfortunate, but, you know, they do have a grievance."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2023 07:47 AM (MoZTd)

4 Good morning horde... even if it doesn't necessarily feel like it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 09, 2023 07:48 AM (1Z8zZ)

5 Yonder Horde

Intelligence agencies here in the US are more interested in domestic terrorists that support MAGA than they are about Islamic terrorists about to kill thousands somewhere else.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 09, 2023 07:48 AM (Q4IgG)

6 This happened now because of Joe Biden and the Dems. Anybody that voted or cheated for him has blood on their hands.

Posted by: fd at October 09, 2023 07:49 AM (vFG9F)

7 5
yup, Regime Intel either missed the Hamas attack, or ignored it. Just like they are ignoring the southern border. That will come back to bite the Regime hard, sooner or later.

Posted by: Ex GOP at October 09, 2023 07:51 AM (qS8WV)

8 morning JJ, prayers for Israel, anyone's relatives, and that hamas is pushed out to the sea this time....

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 09, 2023 07:51 AM (KZaqS)

9 Will. Having the will to do what needs to be done is key. Without it, one is doomed to failure.

You have to have men who are moral... and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling... without passion... without judgment... without judgment! Because it's judgment that defeats us.

Colonel Kurtz was the only sane one in that flick.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 09, 2023 07:51 AM (waTSl)

10 6- But Mike Pence says blame Trump, not Biden. Good old Mike Dense, playing for the other team while claiming to be the True Republican ™

Posted by: Ex GOP at October 09, 2023 07:52 AM (qS8WV)

11 I disagree that this is necessarily Bibi's end; it depends on what happens next. As with Churchill, there is the possibility that this will be will be his Finest Hour - but only time can tell.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2023 07:52 AM (XujwM)

12 One of the oldest rules in American gangland was formulated by Murray "the Camel" Humphreys of the Capone mob in Chicago: "If you ever have to cock a gun in a man's face, kill him. If you walk away without killing him after doing that, he'll kill you the next day."

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Words of wisdom.

Posted by: davidt at October 09, 2023 07:52 AM (SYTee)

13 10 6- But Mike Pence says blame Trump, not Biden. Good old Mike Dense, playing for the other team while claiming to be the True Republican ™
Posted by: Ex GOP at October 09, 2023 07:52 AM (qS8WV)

Playing for the other team while claiming to be the True Republican ™ IS being a True Republican.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2023 07:55 AM (x0n13)

14 Yep, J.J.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 09, 2023 07:56 AM (Zrwvp)

15 A big reason the coming attack needs to be firece, overwhelming, and fast is that so-called "world opinion" will coalesce back into an anti Israeli default position by the end of the month. The reduction of Gaza needs to be finished by then.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2023 07:57 AM (XujwM)

16 As with Churchill, there is the possibility that this will be will be his Finest Hour - but only time can tell.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2023 07:52 AM (XujwM)
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I wish Netanyahu was a Churchill! He's not the solution. He's never been.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 09, 2023 07:58 AM (Zrwvp)

17 Israel has the moral high ground and needs to use it to their advantage. Tell the everyone who's calling for restraint to FOAD, because that's exactly what they've been told to do since 1948.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 09, 2023 07:58 AM (YRsIm)

18 A lot of beaks worldwide dip into the middle east graft pool.

Posted by: davidt at October 09, 2023 07:58 AM (SYTee)

19 It would be fascinating to know where a bunch of Pali's learned to hang glide/paraglide.

It's not something you're going to pick up on you're own and or practice without someone noticing, it's a pretty conspicuous activity.


Looks like the team that was supposed to watch Muslims getting sketchy flight instruction 20 plus years ago, were on this beat.

Might want to get a bit of retraining or a f**king clue, STAT.

Perhaps create a gigantic new organization to make sure these things don't happen again. /sarc

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2023 07:58 AM (XV/Pl)

20 Ukraine is an intra-Slavic turf war over a disputed strip of land. Not my battle. Israel is about civilization and those who will commit genocide to destroy it, and who seek to destroy Judeo-Christianity too. That affects me and my country.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at October 09, 2023 07:59 AM (d9Cw3)

21 Now our commie government stands with Israel. They really don't. They want conflict and a body count.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 09, 2023 08:00 AM (I8crj)

22 There is going to have to be a day of reckoning with the world against the muslims. It is a religion incompatible with civilized society.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy MAGA Extremist at October 09, 2023 08:00 AM (hXpNS)

23 If it's shown that Israeli intelligence turned a blind eye to hamas ramping up operations so that Bibi could be weakened, all those involved should be issued a rifle and 50 rounds and put on the ground in gaza. All alone. They at least would have more protection than the average Israeli. Insane gun control in Israel, Israel of all places a small country surrounded by batshit crazy murdering animals.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 09, 2023 08:01 AM (2NHgQ)

24 How can those of us who support Israel and perhaps have a desire to render American aid and assistance at the same time decry – and rightly so – wasting tens and perhaps hundreds of billions of dollars as well as American boots on the ground in Ukraine?

Israel should have been the West’s proxy in the struggle against the Mohammedans.

Posted by: 7man at October 09, 2023 08:01 AM (qwO6y)

25 Andrea Widberg’s piece is a good one and I believe this is a situation where the power of AND applies. Given how the bureaucracy in Israel has been fighting Bibi’s (very reasonable) judicial reforms tooth and nail, I’d say their deep state is alive and well as ours is…. I wouldn’t put it past that deep state to look the other way to embarrass Bibi… perhaps not expecting it to be quite this bad. That’s where the other side of the AND applies…. They were too incompetent to comprehend the scale. The 9/11 analogy is not a bad one….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 09, 2023 08:02 AM (a0mpl)

26 'When 9/11 happened and Dubya declared we are not at war with Islam, and that it was a religion of peace, but that we were at war with "Terror," we were fucked right then and there."

Well and accurately said.

The Orange Man will unfuck what Bill Clinton's and Obama 's BFF George W Bush fucked up from the jump.
Just a guess ... Trump can be surprisingly and extraordinarily prescient : pro tip : don't buy real estate near Iran oil producing/transmission areas or anywhere in Qatar.

Posted by: Voter theater. at October 09, 2023 08:02 AM (OcxYp)

27 But realist that I am these days, it's hard for me to believe that this time eyes have been opened and attitudes changed.
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Even if the Germans (for example, but only an example - the point is general) actually are on Israel's side, there is a difference between moral support and actual support. If the time comes for action (and it needn't be military engagement - it could be "cut off aid to the PLA" or "vote in favor of Israel at the UN" or "provide material support and weapons to Israel" or the like), the politicians involved will need to exhibit something politicians have not exhibited for at least a generation: courage.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:03 AM (t0OGg)

28 To all my fellow Morons. If you live in area where you can be armed while outdoors, please do so. With all the crap that has crossed the border one should be ever vigilant. Remember, you are there to protect your family and yourself. Be aware of your surroundings and always have a plan if something goes down.
And don’t forget to have immediate access to a firearm while in your home.

Posted by: RetSgtRN at October 09, 2023 08:03 AM (DhOnb)

29 Ukraine is an intra-Slavic turf war over a disputed strip of land. Not my battle. Israel is about civilization and those who will commit genocide to destroy it, and who seek to destroy Judeo-Christianity too. That affects me and my country.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at October 09, 2023 07:59 AM (d9Cw3)

Amazing how many complicated questions really aren't all that complicated.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 09, 2023 08:04 AM (9UlRk)

30 Morning all

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2023 08:04 AM (X98Jy)

31 If it's shown that Israeli intelligence turned a blind eye to hamas ramping up operations so that Bibi could be weakened...

That would be outright betrayal.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 09, 2023 08:05 AM (YRsIm)

32
When 9/11 happened and Dubya declared we are not at war with Islam, and that it was a religion of peace, but that we were at war with "Terror," we were fucked right then and there

Now we seem to be at war with Traditional Catholics.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2023 08:05 AM (MoZTd)

33 But here’s something that’s just as disturbing: Nobody caught what was about to happen because of institutional incompetence. Whether at home or abroad, our “intelligence” types may no longer be that intelligent.
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I don't know about Israel (though this event shows shocking incompetence, dereliction of duty, treason or some combination of the above), but I do know about here. There is no institution that is fit for purpose here.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:05 AM (t0OGg)

34 Did Mike Pence really say the Hamas attack was Trump’s fault???

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 09, 2023 08:06 AM (a0mpl)

35 Mossad failed and look what happened. Malley is celebrating, and Winken-Blinken is trying to defend Iran.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 09, 2023 08:06 AM (02Rcw)

36 "On my signal, release Hell" Maximus . . . .no, I mean Bibi

Posted by: Despise & Deride Marxist Rat Bastards at October 09, 2023 08:06 AM (5uy7A)

37 MSNBC and CNN hosts are already saying that the True Tragedy of this attack is that it might cut back on the money we are giving to Ukraine.
I wish that was a joke, but it's not.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2023 08:06 AM (XujwM)

38
But here’s something that’s just as disturbing: Nobody caught what was about to happen because of institutional incompetence. Whether at home or abroad, our “intelligence” types may no longer be that intelligent.

Our "intelligence agencies" couldn't find their own wieners with Kate Upton holding the mirror.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2023 08:07 AM (MoZTd)

39 “Sheila Jackson Lee wants to come home to be your mayor for the city of Houston,” she said, speaking of herself in the third person in the manner of fictional characters and mental patients.

Then she finished with the ominous call, “let the fire start now.”

With backup singers, piano, and organs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHVauN3kv98

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 09, 2023 08:07 AM (lwOKI)

40 Linus. He also mentioned DeSantis and Ramaswamy, not outright using blame, implying it.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 09, 2023 08:08 AM (2NHgQ)

41 Our "intelligence agencies" couldn't find their own wieners with Kate Upton holding the mirror.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2023 08:07 AM (MoZTd)

BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ATTRACTED TO WOMEN

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at October 09, 2023 08:08 AM (9UlRk)

42 Speaking of long unfinished business, Hezbollah is threatening America and American interests. Isn't time to send this death worshipping Iranian proxy back to hell ?

Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:08 AM (V13WU)

43 Good Morning!

Posted by: Scottst at October 09, 2023 08:08 AM (qcvs8)

44 Good morning again dear morons and thank you JJ

Please to remember opsec.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2023 08:09 AM (RIvkX)

45 Our "intelligence agencies" couldn't find their own wieners with Kate Upton holding the mirror.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2023 08:07 AM (MoZTd)
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This isn't the "God Of The Copybooks" problem, its because our intel agencies are so busy looking at voting, taxpaying citizens.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 09, 2023 08:09 AM (02Rcw)

46 If it's shown that Israeli intelligence turned a blind eye to hamas ramping up operations so that Bibi could be weakened...

That would be outright betrayal.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 09, 2023 08:05 AM (YRsIm)
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Yet those folks will be just as free as the traitors within our own midst...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2023 08:09 AM (YIVH2)

47 Good morning JJ and horde

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2023 08:10 AM (3qfX1)

48 The left in Israel has been gunning for Netanyahu for years via lawfare and its opposition to his proposal to reform Israel's supreme court. Perhaps if the country had spent more time and attention on the threats to its existence in its own back yard instead of arguing about petty politics its officials might not have been asleep at the switch Saturday, but here we are.
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I don't really agree with this assessment. There is probably some truth to it in that internal conflict created a weakened system that was more susceptible to outside attack, but the internal conflict is the existential one. Throughout the western world, the disintegration and destruction are coming from within. External players may choose to get involved and they may find that they have a relatively easy time of it if they do, but the historical placement of external considerations over internal decay - the avoidance of those "petty politics" - has helped deliver us to where we are today.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:10 AM (t0OGg)

49 I would have no problem if Israel went "Ghingis Khan" on Gaza.

Start at the border, march to the sea, leave nothing living and nothing standing.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 09, 2023 08:10 AM (TzW+Y)

50 Linus. He also mentioned DeSantis and Ramaswamy, not outright using blame, implying it.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 09, 2023 08:08 AM (2NHgQ)

Thx. Pence is now diving below the McCain/Romney line on the GOPe scale. He’s despicable

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 09, 2023 08:10 AM (a0mpl)

51 the avoidance of those "petty politics" - has helped deliver us to where we are today.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:10 AM (t0OGg)

The weakness and unpreparedness are the symptom, not the disease?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 09, 2023 08:11 AM (9UlRk)

52 And this is why the 24 hour rule applies. https://tinyurl.com/2hfs949t
Scroll down to the 2nd and third reports.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 09, 2023 08:11 AM (2NHgQ)

53
“Sheila Jackson Lee wants to come home to be your mayor for the city of Houston,” she said, speaking of herself in the third person in the manner of fictional characters and mental patients.

When I first came to live in Houston in 1984, it was a busy, productive city run by sensible people. When I came back in 2008 there were bad signs everywhere. Now the city is run by hacks and lunatics and it's all going to hell in a handbasket.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2023 08:12 AM (MoZTd)

54

In a scathing rebuke, Pence faulted “voices of appeasement like Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy and Ron DeSantis that I believe have run contrary to the tradition in our party that America is the leader of the free world.”

Says the dude who got rolled by Nancy Pelosi and didn't put up a fight.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2023 08:13 AM (enJYY)

55 Israel has the moral high ground and needs to use it to their advantage. Tell the everyone who's calling for restraint to FOAD, because that's exactly what they've been told to do since 1948.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 09, 2023 07:58 AM (YRsIm)

and i sincerely hope that WHEN the "world" starts calling for restrain, Israel shows the graphic pictures of the women, children, and old folks who were murdered by the terrorists.

and simply state that restraint will be the as was shown to their defenseless...

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 09, 2023 08:13 AM (KZaqS)

56 No matter what happens, this is likely to be the end of Bibi and his spit-and-baling-wire political coalition, and will crack open even more the fissures in Israeli society.
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I agree with the assessment that Netanyahu is finished. He won't be thrown out and will lead the country through this disaster, but he will survive it. Not even Golda Meir could survive the 1973 disaster, and she was removed after they achieved victory.

Netanyahu is probably a lame duck, and I think he should act like it. Being finished anyway, he has nothing to lose. Be as ruthless as humanly possible with the enemy and grind them into dust. As the opportunities present themselves, he should also kick off an internal purge. There's essentially no personal downside to that for him.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:14 AM (t0OGg)

57 and i sincerely hope that WHEN the "world" starts calling for restrain, Israel shows the graphic pictures of the women, children, and old folks who were murdered by the terrorists.

and simply state that restraint will be the as was shown to their defenseless...
Posted by: SturmToddler at October 09, 2023 08:13 AM (KZaqS)
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Unfortunately, they'll be denounced for manufacturing anti-Muslim propaganda, even if the images are 100% authentic (which they will be).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2023 08:14 AM (YIVH2)

58
America isn't the Leader of the Free World, America is the Husband of the Free World.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2023 08:14 AM (MoZTd)

59 Hours before President Trump was inaugurated, Secretary of State John Kerry rushed the money to the terrorists. What kind of a difference would that $221 million make? The Palestinian Authority’s Martyrs Fund budget for 2017 allocated $153 million in salaries to terrorists who had been or were imprisoned by Israel and another $190 million to the families of the terrorists.[v] The $221 million amounted to a sizable percentage of the “Pay to Slay” budget that was used to incentivize murders like these. And it paid off. The number of Israelis killed in terrorist attacks increased in 2017.[vi] The number of lone wolf attack plots rose from 400 to 1,100.

You get what you pay for!

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 09, 2023 08:14 AM (lwOKI)

60 Thx JJ , good morning Horde. A hard weekend and many prayers for our Israeli friends. Just heard a report that there are 9 confirmed American dead. That's probably a very low number.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 09, 2023 08:14 AM (eNQKw)

61 It's Columbus Day!

I refuse to celebrate indigenous peoples' day.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 09, 2023 08:14 AM (NpAcC)

62 I saw a few links to unedited photos of the carnage on Saturday. I looked at a few and stopped. The barbarism is nauseating. Elderly women shot to death at a bus stop; dragging bodies through the street. It’s inhuman. A Shermanesque march to the sea would not be unwarranted. War is cruelty and you cannot refine it.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 09, 2023 08:15 AM (a0mpl)

63 Following my rep, Derrick Van Orden on X (formerly known as Twitter.

This little cuck is still whining about his BFF Kevin McCarthy being booted.

This guy is a Navy Seal who was at the J6 protests and is still whining about a swamp donkey being booted. I have zero faith in any of these guys.

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at October 09, 2023 08:16 AM (Vu7A1)

64
and i sincerely hope that WHEN the "world" starts calling for restrain, Israel shows the graphic pictures of the women, children, and old folks who were murdered by the terrorists.

It's the same reason that Eisenhower wanted the horrors of the extermination camps recorded on film for posterity.

To paraphrase his words; those fvckers will be denying it forever if we don't.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2023 08:16 AM (enJYY)

65 Saw yesterday on a site Israeli War Room pictures of missing, and assumed captive.

Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2023 08:16 AM (3qfX1)

66 Pissing contest between CIA and FBI let 9/11 happen.
Local FDLE agent knew about the learning to fly terrorist and warned DC.

I find it hard to believe local police and outpost did not see the buildups.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 09, 2023 08:17 AM (lwOKI)

67
g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 09, 2023 08:17 AM (ENBF0)

68 >>>How can those of us who support Israel and perhaps have a desire to render American aid and assistance at the same time decry – and rightly so – wasting tens and perhaps hundreds of billions of dollars as well as American boots on the ground in Ukraine?


It's not a good answer, but mine is, I don't care whether it's hypocritical or not. Israel is basically our only friend in the Middle East, so we should support them. Don't know whether that should be material or simply emotional, but given the choice between an Israeli and a Ukrainian flag, I'll wave the Israeli flag every time.

Posted by: Dr. T at October 09, 2023 08:18 AM (M7QSc)

69 So this is not a hadith about the “last day.” It is a hadith about the conditions under which the “last day” will come about, and how Muslims can bring about the “last day”: by killing Jews. The true believers of Hamas are busy doing it now.
++++
Which in this context is due to Islam. It is not always. During the Second World War, the problem was essentially the same. You do not fight to a draw with true believers, and you do not settle. You can't. You have to grind true believers into dust and then occupy their territory and keep cracking the whip for a long time in order to break it. We had to do it with Germany and Japan and in a prior age in a very different situation with very different conditions, the English had to do it in the Middle East.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:18 AM (t0OGg)

70 Hiya

Posted by: JT at October 09, 2023 08:18 AM (T4tVD)

71 ...Throughout the western world, the disintegration and destruction are coming from within. ...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:10 AM (t0OGg)
===

The junta is global as well as globalist.

The left in Israel operates under the same organizing principles as the left here.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2023 08:18 AM (RIvkX)

72 Mark Levin is laying blame on Biden and his administration this morning on F&F.
Saying this would not have happened under Trump.
Saying notice how there has been no statement from Obama.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 09, 2023 08:19 AM (NpAcC)

73 I seriously doubt our intelligence agencies are incompetent. They have decades of institutional knowledge and various tools that far surpass most other countries abilities.

The people working at the FBI, CIA, NSA and elsewhere in the IC make choices about what they report, and what they don't.

Competency has little to do with those decisions. Ideology does.

IMO that makes it much worse. You can train people to be fairly competent in their job, but ideology is something completely different.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 09, 2023 08:19 AM (Q4IgG)

74 Then again, in the wake of invading the aforementioned, we should have mercilessly and violently conquered the nation, imposed unforgiving martial law and de-Nazified the populace. I.E. de-Islamified the populace. Of course, we all know what happened.
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Hearts and minds, JJ. Nation building. It worked after WWII!

But people like Bush forgot that it requires absolute, unconditional victory as a prerequisite.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:20 AM (t0OGg)

75 The weakness and unpreparedness are the symptom, not the disease?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 09, 2023 08:11 AM (9UlRk)
++++
Yes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:20 AM (t0OGg)

76 The junta is global as well as globalist.

The left in Israel operates under the same organizing principles as the left here.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2023 08:18 AM (RIvkX)
++++
Yes it does. And the opposition to those principles has long history of surrendering in the name of "comity" and external strength.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:21 AM (t0OGg)

77 Wages still down. Prices still up.

Other countries still stink.

It's just a Monday.

Posted by: Oschisms at October 09, 2023 08:21 AM (NfF+F)

78 Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 09, 2023 08:11 AM (2NHgQ)

Hmmmm... It's mighty thin slice of ham that has only one side. Seems like if you're 'negotiating', you're in contact with your enemy, or at least identifying those who are functioning as intermediaries and everyone involved can be added to the target list. We'll see.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 09, 2023 08:21 AM (YRsIm)

79 Competency has little to do with those decisions. Ideology does.
IMO that makes it much worse. You can train people to be fairly competent in their job, but ideology is something completely different.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 09, 2023 08:19 AM (Q4IgG)

The CIA is more interested in hiring sodomite transexual deviants then having anything to do with the real world and it's problems.

More coffee..

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 09, 2023 08:21 AM (waTSl)

80 I can't say what needs to happen, but criminal courts are not the answer.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2023 08:23 AM (X98Jy)

81 Unfortunately, they'll be denounced for manufacturing anti-Muslim propaganda, even if the images are 100% authentic (which they will be).
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2023 08:14 AM (YIVH2)

and i hope they tell anyone to pound sand.

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 09, 2023 08:23 AM (KZaqS)

82
Saying notice how there has been no statement from Obama.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 09, 2023 08:19 AM

Jimmy Carter *crickets* (give him a slight pass)
G Bush I *crickets*
Bill Clinton *crickets*
G Bush II *crickets*
Barack Obama *crickets*

Donald Trump is the only living former President to say anything.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2023 08:24 AM (enJYY)

83 "Israel is basically our only friend in the Middle East"

The only French restaurant in Paterson, NJ is not that great a French restaurant.

Posted by: Oschisms at October 09, 2023 08:24 AM (NfF+F)

84 If the left in Israel operates like the left here , they are complete idiots. Breaking down a society that is always under existential threat leads to crap like this invasion. The left is truly a death cult

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 09, 2023 08:25 AM (eNQKw)

85 I still am baffled how any Jew can vote for a Democrat. I will never understand this.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 09, 2023 08:25 AM (NpAcC)

86 Talks continue for Unity Gov
Reports of infiltration of Hezbelah in the north, IDF checking out the reports

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2023 08:26 AM (pVWRI)

87 Hmmmm... It's mighty thin slice of ham that has only one side. Seems like if you're 'negotiating', you're in contact with your enemy, or at least identifying those who are functioning as intermediaries and everyone involved can be added to the target list. We'll see.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead


The Chicago Way. Indiscriminate. For every one of yours, ten of theirs. Indiscriminately. Make 'em afraid to breathe.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2023 08:26 AM (X98Jy)

88 Good morning, JJ, Horde. There's no way Israeli intelligence and law enforcement failed to see and report the movement of men, weapons, and equipment.

The IDF alone has high end soldiers who work undercover and pull recon and surveillance in the Strip and West Bank day in, day out.

Something incredibly stupid or sinister happened at a strategic level.

Posted by: callsign claymore at October 09, 2023 08:27 AM (JcnCJ)

89 Thanks JJ !

AGAIN !!!

Posted by: JT at October 09, 2023 08:27 AM (T4tVD)

90 82 Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2023 08:24 AM (enJYY)


G Bush I is dead. Does he get a slight pass?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2023 08:27 AM (x0n13)

91 If the left in Israel operates like the left here , they are complete idiots. Breaking down a society that is always under existential threat leads to crap like this invasion. The left is truly a death cult
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 09, 2023 08:25 AM (eNQKw)

At the moment, all parties in Israel have left politics aside ( for the most part) and rallied around the IDF

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2023 08:27 AM (pVWRI)

92 Bribe'em continues to hold BBQ at WH instead of acknowledging the mass murder in Israel.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 09, 2023 08:27 AM (VjPdI)

93 @82 if G Bush I is making cricket noises , you've got an interesting story

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 09, 2023 08:27 AM (eNQKw)

94
G Bush I is dead. Does he get a slight pass?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2023 08:27 AM

You know, I wasn't sure about him. It wasn't as memorable as the ongoing McCain funeral.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2023 08:29 AM (enJYY)

95 I bet it's not a coincidence that the presence of an Iranian spy ring in the Biden administration was just outed a week before this attack.

>>They showed that Malley had helped to infiltrate an Iranian agent of influence named Ariane Tabatabai into some of the most sensitive positions in the U.S. government—first at the State Department and now the Pentagon, where she has been serving as chief of staff for the assistant secretary of defense for special operations, Christopher Maier.

https://tinyurl.com/bdhza8ys

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2023 08:29 AM (ZLI7S)

96 https://x.com/WahbaRachel/status/1711328388663902448?s=20

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2023 08:29 AM (pVWRI)

97 90 82 Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2023 08:24 AM (enJYY)


G Bush I is dead. Does he get a slight pass?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2023 08:27 AM (x0n13)

Here I thought he just had dementia or something.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 09, 2023 08:30 AM (eYoxG)

98 G Bush I is dead. Does he get a slight pass?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2023 08:27 AM (x0n13)

No....dig him up and slap him around a bit then bury his moldy ass again.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 09, 2023 08:30 AM (waTSl)

99 Unfortunately, they'll be denounced for manufacturing anti-Muslim propaganda, even if the images are 100% authentic (which they will be).
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2023 08:14 AM (YIVH2)
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And the accusation will be made by propagandists.

My 11th grade English teacher was a woman who used to be a reporter. On the wall of her classroom, she had two large framed photographs. One was a famous (at the time) picture from the beginning of the Second Intifada. It showed a teenage boy wrapped in a Palestinian flag winding up to hurl a rock. That picture was briefly the public face of the Intifada in the western press.

The other picture was a reverse angle of the same scene, showing ranks of press photographers set up to capture the moment. It was staged. It was pure propaganda.

I asked her about it. She told me that those pictures were her last straw, and that incident is what made her quit being a reporter.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:30 AM (t0OGg)

100 @92

>>Bribe'em continues to hold BBQ at WH instead of acknowledging the mass murder in Israel.

Anyone who's as deeply racist as Biden is, no doubt, just as anti-Semitic.

And being that a Cabal of Obama, Rice and Jarret are running the show from behind the curtain, it's no doubt the band played on while massacre's are unfolding.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2023 08:30 AM (XV/Pl)

101 In their Thursday court filing, Abbe Lowell and Richard Jones Jr., Hunter’s attorneys, said that they “will seek to dismiss” the felony gun charges against their client “pursuant to the immunity provisions” of a diversion agreement agreed to by both parties earlier this summer, which Lowell and Jones argue grants Hunter immunity from such charges.

They filed an agreement they knew would be rejected so it was on file so they could use it for the immunity part.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 09, 2023 08:30 AM (lwOKI)

102 Something incredibly stupid or sinister happened at a strategic level.
Posted by: callsign claymore at October 09, 2023 08:27 AM (JcnCJ)
===
Mrs. F. has been muttering about an "inside job" the last 2 days.

The only reason I credit this is she has 40 years of daily soap operas under her belt.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2023 08:30 AM (RIvkX)

103 93 @82 if G Bush I is making cricket noises , you've got an interesting story
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 09, 2023 08:27 AM (eNQKw)

Well, it's better than the noise from Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: dantesed at October 09, 2023 08:31 AM (88xKn)

104
The Iranian infiltration of our intel apparatus looms large.

And considering scum like Malley et al are running the show, they let them in.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2023 08:31 AM (x0n13)

105 One thought that occurs to me is, this is a moment for the US president to be presidential. Be engaged, talk to the nation.

Biden can't do that. His brain and body can't do that. The Handlers will have to cover for him.

Who is President this morning?

Posted by: DB - at October 09, 2023 08:32 AM (geLO8)

106 ‘No Electricity, No Food, No Fuel’: Israel Orders ‘Complete Siege’ On Gaza Strip

Gallant said he has ordered a “full siege” on the Gaza Strip, adding that “no power, no food, no gas”
will reach the Palestinian territory.
Hamas launched a fresh barrage of rocket attacks against several Israeli cities on Monday.
The territory, its airspace and its coast have been blockaded by Israel for nearly 16 years since Hamasassumed power—while Egypt does the same with its land border with the Strip.
An Israeli military spokesperson said the country’s forces have taken “control” of its border territories
and nearly 300,000 reservists have been mobilized to respond to the situation.

The Israeli Defense Force said it carried out 500 strikes against Hamas and Islamic Jihad targets
in the Gaza Strip on Sunday night.
The Palestinian Authority has accused the Israeli military of engaging in a massacre and targeting a refugee camp that has resulted in at least 21 people in the city of Rafah.

https://tinyurl.com/yeyj7rcp

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2023 08:32 AM (X98Jy)

107 The other picture was a reverse angle of the same scene, showing ranks of press photographers set up to capture the moment. It was staged. It was pure propaganda.

I asked her about it. She told me that those pictures were her last straw, and that incident is what made her quit being a reporter.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:30 AM (t0OGg)
---
There were staged pictures of Cindy Sheehan that were basically the same thing. Off-camera were gaggles of photographers and reporters. Within the frame was a "grieving mother, broken-hearted from GWB's senseless policies in the Middle East" or some such nonsense.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2023 08:32 AM (YIVH2)

108 95 I bet it's not a coincidence that the presence of an Iranian spy ring in the Biden administration was just outed a week before this attack.

>>They showed that Malley had helped to infiltrate an Iranian agent of influence named Ariane Tabatabai into some of the most sensitive positions in the U.S. government—first at the State Department and now the Pentagon, where she has been serving as chief of staff for the assistant secretary of defense for special operations, Christopher Maier.

https://tinyurl.com/bdhza8ys

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2023 08:29 AM (ZLI7S)

And she is somehow related to the people Biden pardoned. I think they were her path back to Iran.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 09, 2023 08:32 AM (lwOKI)

109 NGU, are the naval assets being sent more for deterring Iran than aid to Israel? Which I guess is aid in it's own way.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 09, 2023 08:32 AM (VjPdI)

110 The Iranian infiltration of our intel apparatus looms large.

And considering scum like Malley et al are running the show, they let them in.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2023 08:31 AM (x0n13)
++++
There's probably some of that going on. I think that the greater problem, however, is that our intel apparatus (and state apparatus, for that matter) is pro-Iran for its own purposes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:33 AM (t0OGg)

111 Something incredibly stupid or AND sinister happened at a strategic level.

FIFY

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 09, 2023 08:33 AM (YRsIm)

112 Please watch i24

also a lot of good info on Twitter

Hard for me to copy and paste the links here do this sites restrictions. Any help would be appreciated

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2023 08:33 AM (pVWRI)

113
I still am baffled how any Jew can vote for a Democrat. I will never understand this.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 09, 2023 08:25 AM (NpAcC)

In a sense, I can understand why so many Jews are liberals. More than a few Jews emigrated to the US from Russia and Eastern Europe, where they suffered extreme poverty and oppression. The only way they could survive was to help each other out.

Not surprisingly, that attitude, if not the religion, remained with them and their descendants in the US. But the poverty and oppression of the early 20th Century isn't around any longer. Much of the poverty is because the poor are no damn good as people, much of the oppression of Jews comes from the best buddies of the Left.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2023 08:33 AM (MoZTd)

114 @101

>>They filed an agreement they knew would be rejected so it was on file so they could use it for the immunity part.

I mean, you have to at one level, respect the balls of these guys in saying, hey we had an agreement and the fact that the government took it off the table is meaningless, it's the deal and that's that.

I could easily see one of these judges say, well, a deals a deal, the deal is in effect, you are free to go,, have a nice day.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2023 08:33 AM (XV/Pl)

115 There were staged pictures of Cindy Sheehan that were basically the same thing. Off-camera were gaggles of photographers and reporters. Within the frame was a "grieving mother, broken-hearted from GWB's senseless policies in the Middle East" or some such nonsense.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2023 08:32 AM (YIVH2)

They has catering tents and port a potties at the Bush ranch in Waco for the Code Pink.
PS Code Pink was in on the plan to firebomb the RNC in Austin.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 09, 2023 08:34 AM (lwOKI)

116 I still am baffled how any Jew can vote for a Democrat. I will never understand this.

===

Many here bring this up.

two things,

1) How about people remove "Jews" out of the question, and just start asking why do people who live in Cleveland, Chicago or LA vote democrat. Jews are voting Americans like all others, and vote according to whatever. For many American the Democrat party is the answer to their needs. For many Catholics the Democrat party is the answer to their needs.

2) Republican support for Israel and Jews in general is a very recent phenomenon. Bush sr. cut off support for Jews trying to flee the Soviets, because he had beef with Shamir who was doing what Bibi should have done.

3) McCarthy was a Republican. His tactics left a bad taste in Jewish mouths. Probably for the next 100 years.

Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:34 AM (V13WU)

117 112 Hard for me to copy and paste the links here do this sites restrictions. Any help would be appreciated
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2023 08:33 AM (pVWRI)


NGU. Send me or CBD a link and I'll post in the sidebar.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2023 08:34 AM (x0n13)

118 In a sense, I can understand why so many Jews are liberals. More than a few Jews emigrated to the US from Russia and Eastern Europe, where they suffered extreme poverty and oppression. The only way they could survive was to help each other out.

Not surprisingly, that attitude, if not the religion, remained with them and their descendants in the US. But the poverty and oppression of the early 20th Century isn't around any longer. Much of the poverty is because the poor are no damn good as people, much of the oppression of Jews comes from the best buddies of the Left.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2023 08:33 AM (MoZTd)

The Democrats aren't exactly the party of charity.

They however have always been very good at recruiting immigrant populations, even during the eras where they actively discriminated against them.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 09, 2023 08:35 AM (eYoxG)

119 well, that is three things...need moar coffee

Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:35 AM (V13WU)

120 I could easily see one of these judges say, well, a deals a deal, the deal is in effect, you are free to go,, have a nice day.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2023 08:33 AM (XV/Pl)

Happens here in Houston when 1 thugs lawyers says my thug co-thugs walked so he should too.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 09, 2023 08:35 AM (lwOKI)

121 G Bush I is dead. Does he get a slight pass?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton


No. Fuck him.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2023 08:36 AM (X98Jy)

122 The people running this country are desperately trying to destroy it (same for western countries), foolishly believing that they will survive the destruction and rule it all.

Posted by: Floridachick at October 09, 2023 08:36 AM (ef9Cr)

123 This on CNN-

Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
49s
Palestinian National Initiative's
@MustafaBarghou1
: "Hamas mainly attacked military establishments, military installations. And most of the people they have arrested & taken as war prisoners are military people. I do not accept [they are] attacking any civilian."

https://tinyurl.com/4wsnknba

Posted by: redridinghood at October 09, 2023 08:36 AM (NpAcC)

124 NGU, are the naval assets being sent more for deterring Iran than aid to Israel? Which I guess is aid in it's own way.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 09, 2023 08:32 AM (VjPdI)

Well to deter any bad actors from getting directly involved which is unlikely, To show the FLAG, but I think mostly to be in position for any possible evacuation of American Citizens. And it should be mentioned that the IDF and the US Fleet has practiced combined missile defense systems

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2023 08:37 AM (pVWRI)

125
1) How about people remove "Jews" out of the question, and just start asking why do people who live in Cleveland, Chicago or LA vote democrat. Jews are voting Americans like all others, and vote according to whatever. For many American the Democrat party is the answer to their needs. For many Catholics the Democrat party is the answer to their needs.
Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:34 AM (V13WU)

The Catholic voting difference(which is currently close to even and favored Trump) isn't religious but ethnic. White Catholics vote like White Protestants in the US.

It is the Hispanic/new immigrant effect(something like 3rd generation+ is where the effect goes away), Democrats are very good at getting their votes.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 09, 2023 08:37 AM (eYoxG)

126 I think McCarthy and his witch hunts, the older generation remember it well, the blacklisting, the show trials. They will not forgive or forget. Understandable.

Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:37 AM (V13WU)

127 Bro's, Ron's, and Ettes:

That $6B went from Korea to Qatar. Qatar is the home of the Muslim Brotherhood. Qatar is the international money laundering center for radical terrorism like Ukraine is the money laundering center for corrupt western nations.

Biden is aligned with the Muslim Brotherhood. You need to understand this. Especially with thousands of military age muslim men coming across our border. Things are escalating.

Posted by: Danimal28 at October 09, 2023 08:37 AM (klw0w)

128 The territory, its airspace and its coast have been blockaded by Israel for nearly 16 years since Hamas assumed power—while Egypt does the same with its land border with the Strip.
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Interesting construction here. The Strip has not been blockaded - there is (well, was) a flow of trade, energy and people into the Strip. It is tightly controlled by Israel and Egypt, but those are in essence police activities - it's border control.

North Korea is blockaded - virtually nothing flows over the 38th Parallel. Gaza was not, it was just subject to rigorous external border enforcement by its neighbors. It is a bad neighbor, and so the border is tightly controlled. That is not a "blockade." Hell, Israel is (was) the primary source of energy and food for Gaza.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:37 AM (t0OGg)

129 Israel ישראל @Israel 27m [Israeli Foreign Ministry]
Three hour line to donate blood in Jerusalem.

Thank you to each and every one of you.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 08:38 AM (krqg6)

130 A follow-up to the Israeli's cutting the water supply to the palis, it's only 10% of their yearly supply. Where do they get the other 90% since the south of Israel is desert? Egypt, desalination?

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 09, 2023 08:38 AM (2NHgQ)

131 Send me or CBD a link and I'll post in the sidebar.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2023 08:34 AM (x0n13)

thanks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2023 08:38 AM (pVWRI)

132 110 The Iranian infiltration of our intel apparatus looms large.

And considering scum like Malley et al are running the show, they let them in.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2023 08:31 AM (x0n13)
++++
There's probably some of that going on. I think that the greater problem, however, is that our intel apparatus (and state apparatus, for that matter) is pro-Iran for its own purposes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:33 AM (t0OGg)


JMX - we spoke about this on the podcasts, I'm sure. Ideologically driven incompetence and incompetence in and of itself that drives ideology.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2023 08:38 AM (x0n13)

133 130 A follow-up to the Israeli's cutting the water supply to the palis, it's only 10% of their yearly supply. Where do they get the other 90% since the south of Israel is desert? Egypt, desalination?
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 09, 2023 08:38 AM (2NHgQ)

Wells possibly?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 09, 2023 08:39 AM (eYoxG)

134 It is the Hispanic/new immigrant effect(something like 3rd generation+ is where the effect goes away), Democrats are very good at getting buying their votes.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy


FIFY.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2023 08:39 AM (X98Jy)

135 #129 Addendum:

Israel ישראל @Israel 5h
These are the latest updates from the Israel Ministry of Health.

Please pray for the wounded.

https://tinyurl.com/5ye46rc3
[IMAGE graph]

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 08:40 AM (krqg6)

136 Politics is local. Never changes.

Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:41 AM (V13WU)

137 FYI ... Jpost.com appears to be down due to (?) a DNS attack. All you see at the moment is Not much coverage out there yet

Posted by: SecondCityLurker at October 09, 2023 08:41 AM (MEbkQ)

138 Can anyone recommend a good article on the idea that there was never a Palestine and so we shouldn't "give back" Israel to "Palestine"? I read some years ago but can't recall who they were by. I have a young friend (33) who thinks that Israel should be given "back" to the Palestinians and since there were other people in addition to Jews who were killed people in the Holocaust it should be a state for everyone. I could have given her some Jewish/Biblical history, but I was so irritated I decided not to argue. And yes, she knows there are radical Muslims, but she think that people really ought to get along.

Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just reporting her views; I DON'T agree with her.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2023 08:41 AM (RSbhh)

139 @tomselliott
@MustafaBarghou1: "Hamas mainly attacked military establishments, military installations. And most of the people they have arrested & taken as war prisoners are military people. I do not accept [they are] attacking any civilian." ...
Posted by: redridinghood at October 09, 2023 08:36 AM (NpAcC)
++++
Sure, this *could* be true, I guess. The reports of indiscriminate attack by Hamas forces except for the directly-targeted sweeps through kibbutzim soft targets could all be false.

But it would be the first time in history that the "Palestinians" ever behaved that way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:41 AM (t0OGg)

140 >>Biden is aligned with the Muslim Brotherhood. You need to understand this. Especially with thousands of military age muslim men coming across our border. Things are escalating.

Obama is aligned with the Muslim Brotherhood. I think all we are living through with Biden is Obama's 3rd term, the one he wanted to do but didn't want to publicly get his hands dirty.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2023 08:41 AM (ZLI7S)

141 I don't need or want to hear anything from the US government about this. What can they say?

"We need to send aid?" What aid? We're tapped the fuck out. We've squandered our defense and foreign aid budgets protecting our elites' money laundries.

"We support Israel! #GiveBackOurJews?" Meaningless pap. Annoying.

"We urge restraint?" Worse than useless.

As always: the US needs to STFD and STFU. It ain't good for nothin' on a good day, and it'll always make any situation worse. American support is the kiss of death.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 09, 2023 08:42 AM (0FoWg)

142 yeah, jpost been flaky since the war began

Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:42 AM (V13WU)

143 2 Terrorist killed on northern border

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2023 08:42 AM (pVWRI)

144 The other picture was a reverse angle of the same scene, showing ranks of press photographers set up to capture the moment. It was staged. It was pure propaganda.

I asked her about it. She told me that those pictures were her last straw, and that incident is what made her quit being a reporter.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:30 AM (t0OGg)
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There were staged pictures of Cindy Sheehan that were basically the same thing. Off-camera were gaggles of photographers and reporters. Within the frame was a "grieving mother, broken-hearted from GWB's senseless policies in the Middle East" or some such nonsense.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2023 08:32 AM (YIVH2)

AOC by the "fence" ...

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 09, 2023 08:42 AM (KZaqS)

145 I do not accept [they are] attacking any civilian."

https://tinyurl.com/4wsnknba

Posted by: redridinghood at October 09, 2023 08:36 AM (NpAcC)

Except, y'know, that "Rave For Peace." Would love to hear the twisted logic that the event was a military target.

Posted by: pookysgirl knows it's coming eventually at October 09, 2023 08:43 AM (dtlDP)

146 There are reportedly American civilians among the dead and captured. I'm fairly certain that figures into the decision to move the USS Ford carrier group into the eastern Med. Not entirely, but it's likely part of it.

Also, need to keep an eye on the Russians in Syria, the Syrians themselves, the Egyptians, Jordan, Iran, etc.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 09, 2023 08:43 AM (Q4IgG)

147

Samawal Foundations
@Samawal_LLC
The most effective support the US can give Israel is not ammunition or aircraft carriers. We MUST cut off financial flows to the Islamic Republic and to the Palestinians to start undoing some of the damage we caused.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2023 08:44 AM (pVWRI)

148 "A diplomatic source has denied the Reuters report claiming that talks regarding a possible prisoner swap between Israel and Hamas "are moving in a positive direction.""There are no negotiations," the source said. "

Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:44 AM (V13WU)

149 Israel War Room @IsraelWarRoom 26m [a private site, not governmental]
#BREAKING: IDF: Initial report – A report was received regarding the infiltration of a number of suspects into Israeli territory from Lebanese territory. IDF soldiers are deployed in the area. Details to follow.

Israel War Room @IsraelWarRoom 1m
#BREAKING: The @IDF has eliminated a number of terrorists who infiltrated Israel’s northern border with Lebanon.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 08:44 AM (krqg6)

150 A follow-up to the Israeli's cutting the water supply to the palis, it's only 10% of their yearly supply. Where do they get the other 90% since the south of Israel is desert? Egypt, desalination?
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 09, 2023 08:38 AM (2NHgQ)
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It doesn't matter. Gaza has wells and other sources of water, but all of its energy comes from Israel. It doesn't matter how much water you have if you don't have power to move it. Cutting off electricity cuts off water, even with internal supplies or external delivery to the border. It has to move within, and it can't move if your pumping stations aren't energized.

Look at South Africa for an example of this. Water infrastructure in major parts of that country like Johannesburg is on its last legs and water delivery is failing at an alarming rate. There is plenty of water - the reservoirs are in good shape and the wells are flush - but the power problems have fucked the delivery system.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:45 AM (t0OGg)

151 "But the worthless are all like thorns raked aside,
for they can never be gathered by hand."



there is no negotiation with them, they need to be erased

Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:46 AM (V13WU)

152 Both communism and islam are completely incompatible with a free and open secular small-d democratic society.

Sen. McCarthy wasn’t wrong about communist subversion and the state department and elsewhere. The decrypted Venona papers from the Soviet Union archives show deep the rot was in the FDR years.

Things are FUBAR in this nation today because a lot of people couldn’t or wouldn’t do what they are required to do as part of their job. The Clintons and all the other red diaper babies, their ideological heirs have fucked this country good and hard, and the world by extension, out of a vindictiveness that is inexplicable

Posted by: Common Tater at October 09, 2023 08:46 AM (iSwfz)

153 Oh fcvk you Darth Lloyd with Rancid Tilapia's cranium, you incompetent corpulent bargain bin Idi Amin wanna-be.

Days to get stuff to Israel? What about the munitions already stored in Israel?

Or did you give it all away to Ukraine?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2023 08:47 AM (CI7Tw)

154 @Samawal_LLC
The most effective support the US can give Israel is not ammunition or aircraft carriers. We MUST cut off financial flows to the Islamic Republic and to the Palestinians to start undoing some of the damage we caused.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2023 08:44 AM (pVWRI)
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As many have been saying since the Second Intifada kicked off at the turn of the century.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:47 AM (t0OGg)

155 Sure, this *could* be true, I guess. The reports of indiscriminate attack by Hamas forces except for the directly-targeted sweeps through kibbutzim soft targets could all be false.

But it would be the first time in history that the "Palestinians" ever behaved that way.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:41 AM (t0OGg)
******
CNN allows lies to be pushed.
They hit a music festival first.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 09, 2023 08:48 AM (NpAcC)

156 McCotter:

It is the standard ‘republican’ line these days that Gaetz is colluding with democrats while McCarthy actually was by not resisting annual $2T deficits. Gaetz is not funded by globalist donors. McCarthy is.

To me that is the whole story.

Posted by: Danimal28 at October 09, 2023 08:48 AM (klw0w)

157 I think McCarthy and his witch hunts, the older generation remember it well, the blacklisting, the show trials. They will not forgive or forget. Understandable.
Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:37 AM (V13WU)

I’m not saying Joseph McCarthy was a good guy. I’m sure many of the people he targeted were innocent. However, with the space of time, don’t we now know that his basic point was mostly correct? That is, was it not true that communists were indeed infiltrating the state department and other institutions? His tactics were despicable and he was a drunk but he did have a bit of a point, no?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 09, 2023 08:49 AM (a0mpl)

158 Oh fcvk you Darth Lloyd with Rancid Tilapia's cranium, you incompetent corpulent bargain bin Idi Amin wanna-be.

Days to get stuff to Israel? What about the munitions already stored in Israel?

Or did you give it all away to Ukraine?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2023 08:47 AM (CI7Tw)
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Days isn't unreasonable. We don't have many assets in Israel as far as I know, and we no longer have open combat theaters nearby. It takes time to move stuff across the world.

What I am more curious about is what we will be sending, and how much of whatever it is. We have shipped most of our stockpiles - stockpiles that were originally intended, along with other things, to be sent to Israel if needed - to Ukraine.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:50 AM (t0OGg)

159 Hezbollah has got to go all in or not at all . The recent reports of infiltration makes me think they are going all in. Just lobbing in a few rockets or a small commando attack would prompt a massive Israeli response, so they might as well go big. And Israel will still stomp the snot out of them.
Going into Gaza is going to be nasty however, but necessary. Hamas must have booby traps and sniper nests all over the place. Plus drones will cause havoc to tanks. Pray for the IDF

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 09, 2023 08:50 AM (eNQKw)

160 To me that is the whole story.
Posted by: Danimal28 at October 09, 2023 08:48 AM (

The "logic" of ConInc's argument is hilarious.

"Gaetz is a swine for standing with Democrats! That bastard is honor-bound to support McCarthy when he stands with Democrats!"

It's not the co-operation with Democrats at issue. It's whether co-operation benefits ConInc or not.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 09, 2023 08:51 AM (0FoWg)

161 138
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2023 08:41 AM (RSbhh)

The region was part of the Roman empire (client state of Judah), then conquered by Muslims. Different Muslim empires hold it for quite some time.

The Ottoman empire was carved up by the British in WW1, who established a "Mandate for Palestine" (just an administrative district). At this time, the region is fairly sparsely populated by Jews and Levantine peoples (mostly culturally Arabic and Islamic). British make a bunch of promises to different parties about what's going to happen to the territory.

1948 Britain divvies up the land, Arabs declare war on the new Israeli state. Many Arabs leave this new state to make room for the hopeful genocide of the Jews by the invading Arab armies.

There is at no point in this history an independent state of Palestine. The formation of a Palestinian(Arabic) identity was mostly focused on the conflict with Israel.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 09, 2023 08:51 AM (eYoxG)

162 FenelonSpoke

People like your young friend have been so brainwashed and propagandized by our left controlled institutions that in most cases no amount of historical information, religious history, current topics and logical arguments will change their mind. This is assuming that they will listen instead of screaming and throwing insults, walking away, or getting physical when confronted with any opposing views that challenge the dogma that they have internalized.

A portion of them will come to their senses when they or their family/friends lie dying in front of their eyes at the hands of those who hate this country/civilization. Most will never admit that they were wrong.

They do not or cannot process the fact that a person cannot 'get along' with someone who wants them dead. They have never encountered this level of evil in any human in their life.

Posted by: Floridachick at October 09, 2023 08:51 AM (ef9Cr)

163 G Bush I is dead. Does he get a slight pass?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton


No. Fuck him.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2023 08:36 AM (X98Jy)

Tell us how ya really feel !

Posted by: JT at October 09, 2023 08:52 AM (T4tVD)

164 Hezbollah has got to go all in or not at all . The recent reports of infiltration makes me think they are going all in. Just lobbing in a few rockets or a small commando attack would prompt a massive Israeli response, so they might as well go big. And Israel will still stomp the snot out of them.
Going into Gaza is going to be nasty however, but necessary. Hamas must have booby traps and sniper nests all over the place. Plus drones will cause havoc to tanks. Pray for the IDF
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 09, 2023 08:50 AM (eNQKw)
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The entire Hamas action could be a diversion. Lock up the IDF in Gaza and leave the North susceptible to Hezbollah from the north - a two-front war. Time will tell, I suppose.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:52 AM (t0OGg)

165 I do not accept [they are] attacking any civilian...
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Different asshole, same shit:

PALESTINE ONLINE @OnlinePalEng 1h
Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant: “We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly."

Ali Abunimah is now on bluesky @AliAbunimah 1h
The language of Hitler

Israel War Room @IsraelWarRoom 40m
Going door-to-door slaughtering innocent Jews with delight: the actions of Hitler and Hamas. These are your Palestinian heroes, @AliAbunimah. These are the genocidal barbarians you continue to support and defend.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 08:52 AM (krqg6)

166 Short version: you can pay on the front end and deal decisively with a situation, or wait until the situation deteriorates to the point where you are forced to pay on the back end whose cost in blood and treasure is always much higher.

Posted by: Cheri at October 09, 2023 08:53 AM (FGQ5G)

167 Can someone help Fen track down that "Palestinian" article? I'm going back to bed after finally finishing a project and delivering it to the birthday girl yesterday.

Posted by: pookysgirl desperately needs sleep at October 09, 2023 08:53 AM (dtlDP)

168 How can those of us who support Israel and perhaps have a desire to render American aid and assistance at the same time decry – and rightly so – throwing tens and perhaps hundreds of billions of dollars as well as American boots on the ground in Ukraine?

1. Ukraine has not been our friend and ally for decades.
2. Ukraine is not a democracy... no matter how it apes one.
3. Unlike Ukraine, Israel wasn't shelling ethnic minorities within their borders for the last 8 years.
4. Unlike Israel, western allies have encroached on Russia... despite multiple promises otherwise.

I'm sure I can think of at least another dozen or so reasons given time.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 09, 2023 08:53 AM (1Z8zZ)

169 G Bush I is dead. Does he get a slight pass?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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No. Fuck him.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2023 08:36 AM (X98Jy)
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This is the way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:53 AM (t0OGg)

170 Drunken paranoia, whether against communist "sympathies" , or mythical MAGA extremists sympathizers is not a good thing. I remember an older guy I worked with, n years ago, of Russian extraction whose parents left after the Revolution, how afraid he was in the 1950s.

Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:53 AM (V13WU)

171 Good morning, one and all. Trying to avoid the news cycle other than this place. I'm enjoying the day off and the fact I'm going on vacation next week.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 09, 2023 08:53 AM (RsJmr)

172 133 easy, get a new friend. The more difficult way would be starting over with good schools from at least 40 years ago. Kidding aside you can’t out debate this. The left gave up on debate and discussions early in the Clinton administration.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2023 08:54 AM (+EQZQ)

173 *mentioning how afraid he was

Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:54 AM (V13WU)

174 157 I think McCarthy and his witch hunts, the older generation remember it well, the blacklisting, the show trials. They will not forgive or forget. Understandable.
Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:37 AM (V13WU)

I’m not saying Joseph McCarthy was a good guy. I’m sure many of the people he targeted were innocent. However, with the space of time, don’t we now know that his basic point was mostly correct? That is, was it not true that communists were indeed infiltrating the state department and other institutions? His tactics were despicable and he was a drunk but he did have a bit of a point, no?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 09, 2023 08:49 AM (a0mpl)

Most of the people he targeted were not innocent. He appears to have been operating off of information sourced by FBI monitoring of USSR communications(and to our knowledge they weren't sharing this to many people).

The FBI didn't share its monitoring activities for decades under the belief that this info would immediately be relayed to the USSR.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 09, 2023 08:54 AM (eYoxG)

175 Can anyone recommend a good article on the idea that there was never a Palestine and so we shouldn't "give back" Israel to "Palestine"? I read some years ago but can't recall who they were by. I have a young friend (33) who thinks that Israel should be given "back" to the Palestinians and since there were other people in addition to Jews who were killed people in the Holocaust it should be a state for everyone. I could have given her some Jewish/Biblical history, but I was so irritated I decided not to argue. And yes, she knows there are radical Muslims, but she think that people really ought to get along.

Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just reporting her views; I DON'T agree with her.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2023 08:41 AM (RSbhh)
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That view is so uneducated and distorted it boggles the mind

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2023 08:54 AM (RIvkX)

176 Correct on the water situation - Gaza is fucked. Because it is so close to the ocean, most everything below 30 feet underground is salt. Not they have any desalination plants, but even I'd they did they are hugely energy intensive. The most they might gave is a few barrels sitting around since the last rain.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2023 08:54 AM (U8kyA)

177 Short version: you can pay on the front end and deal decisively with a situation, or wait until the situation deteriorates to the point where you are forced to pay on the back end whose cost in blood and treasure is always much higher.
Posted by: Cheri at October 09, 2023 08:53 AM (FGQ5G)
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You can decrease the frequency of negative events, but it usually comes at the cost of increasing the amplitude.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 08:54 AM (t0OGg)

178 I still am baffled how any Jew can vote for a Democrat. I will never understand this.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 09, 2023 08:25 AM (NpAcC)

Because they jews in name only. The only god they worship is progressivism.

Posted by: Outside of Life at October 09, 2023 08:55 AM (89Sog)

179 >>I do not accept [they are] attacking any civilian...

Pretty sure they didn't die of a virus.

@bennyjohnson

🚨 BREAKING: At least 9 Americans were killed in Hamas’ attacks on Israel, National Security Council confirms.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2023 08:55 AM (ZLI7S)

180 That was powerful JJ.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2023 08:55 AM (+EQZQ)

181 And for those keeping score, the Jpost is back. ;-)

Posted by: SecondCityLurker at October 09, 2023 08:56 AM (MEbkQ)

182 Because they jews in name only. The only god they worship is progressivism

==

this is too simplistic, they vote local, they vote like the rest of the people where they live

Jews in TX probably vote R

Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:56 AM (V13WU)

183 Hezbollah has got to go all in or not at all . The recent reports of infiltration makes me think they are going all in. Just lobbing in a few rockets or a small commando attack would prompt a massive Israeli response, so they might as well go big. And Israel will still stomp the snot out of them.
Going into Gaza is going to be nasty however, but necessary. Hamas must have booby traps and sniper nests all over the place. Plus drones will cause havoc to tanks. Pray for the IDF
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 09, 2023 08:50 AM (eNQKw)

I do not think they will go in hole hog. A few missiles and a few attempts in infiltrate and a few drones sure. But it is not in Hezbolahs interest to go in full force. They base is Lebanon is to a dregree dependent on lebanon's acquisence. I the attack, the lights will go out all over Lebanon and they will be held responsible.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2023 08:57 AM (pVWRI)

184
Now I remember the GW Bush I eulogy: "Of my friend, I can only say this: of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most... human. "

Posted by: Wasted and can't find way home at October 09, 2023 08:58 AM (enJYY)

185 From the Tech Thread, since it's Columbus Day, paesani.

112 googling famous Italians (but without asking for any American appreciation of them); top nine hits:

Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo, Benito Mussolini, Sophia Loren, Marco Polo, Andrea Bocelli, Dante Alighieri, Luciano Pavarotti, Giuseppe Verdi

Posted by: m at October 09, 2023 06:20 AM (AOrJZ)
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(notice how scientists always get left out because people are dumb and Science is too hard)
I may add
Enrico Fermi
Giuseppe Garibaldi
Amedeo Avogadro
Alessandro Volta

and lastly two of my favorite ladies
Gina Lollobrigida (deceased this year) and Claudia Cardinale.

Posted by: Ciampino - Grind the beans at October 09, 2023 08:59 AM (qfLjt)

186 Good morning all. Happy Monday?

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at October 09, 2023 08:59 AM (iF0sF)

187 McCarthy, J6 persecution, two sides , same coin.

Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:59 AM (V13WU)

188 @178

>>Because they jews in name only. The only god they worship is progressivism.

My basic assumption is people vote the way they do because they believe it benefits them to do so.

But being that our elections are increasingly spectral in nature, who knows how people are actually voting.

Take the recall election in Cali, it was said Hispanics and Asians were driving the effort to recall Newsome, yet Newsome won in a blowout.

So, someone's lying about something.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2023 08:59 AM (XV/Pl)

189 Correct on the water situation - Gaza is fucked. Because it is so close to the ocean, most everything below 30 feet underground is salt. Not they have any desalination plants, but even I'd they did they are hugely energy intensive. The most they might gave is a few barrels sitting around since the last rain.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2023 08:54 AM (U8kyA)
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Even if they did have desalination, they would have been built and probably maintained by the Israelis. Once the Israelis cut the power and pull back, those plants would have been intentionally destroyed by Hamas.

Just like the Palis did to the greenhouses the Israelis left in Gaza after they fully withdrew a couple of decades ago.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2023 08:59 AM (YIVH2)

190 182 Because they jews in name only. The only god they worship is progressivism

==

this is too simplistic, they vote local, they vote like the rest of the people where they live

Jews in TX probably vote R
Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:56 AM (V13WU)

Sect is a pretty strong predictor of voting behavior for American Jews, and that's independent of location.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 09, 2023 08:59 AM (eYoxG)

191 Re : "Palestine" ; there has never in history been a country with that name. The name was created by the Roman Empire after the Bar Kichba revolt, circa 130 AD, when Rome decided to erase Judea completely and expel ALL Jews from the land (beginning the Diaspora) The Roman Government looked back to the (by that time, mythical) Philippines and named the new province Syria Palaestrina, which it kept until the Moslem takeover. Cont'd.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2023 09:00 AM (U8kyA)

192 I wonder if the US can do another Operation Nickel Grass again with this leadership?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2023 09:00 AM (CI7Tw)

193 I do not think they will go in hole hog. A few missiles and a few attempts in infiltrate and a few drones sure. But it is not in Hezbolahs interest to go in full force. They base is Lebanon is to a dregree dependent on lebanon's acquisence. I the attack, the lights will go out all over Lebanon and they will be held responsible.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2023 08:57 AM (pVWRI)
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Lebanon is a failed state and probably can't stop Hezbollah without a civil war like in Syria. If Hezbollah wants to go in, they will. And if Hezbollah's flow of funds and weapons depends on their engagement (if, for example, Iran or Qatar are making demands and threatening to close the purse), I could see it happening.

All speculation, of course.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 09:00 AM (t0OGg)

194 Mornin’, All. Fall is here at last.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 09, 2023 09:00 AM (9ITg2)

195 So we are reminded that Hamas has been labeled a terrorist organization by the US, the EU and multiple other nations. What exactly does that imply? We are hearing the calls for de-escalation and diplomatic negotiations and the volume on that will undoubtedly get louder. Are terrorist organizations sovereign entities? If you choose to negotiate with them you are giving them equal footing. Their acts of barbarism, purposefully displayed to the world , are merely regretful failures of diplomatic relations. If we teleported the atrocities of Nazi Germany to the present day and allowed the world to view from the comfort of our homes, would our reaction be the same? I'm trying to imagine a reaction calling for de-escalation were it Aushwitz, Birkenau, Babi Yar etc., etc, be displayed to us.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ne Obliviscaris at October 09, 2023 09:00 AM (qj8+t)

196 Thoughts on Israel attacks... There is no way the Mossad didn't know this was coming. War=Money. The same way War=Money in Ukraine. Worldwide Deep State actions.

Posted by: Danimal28 at October 09, 2023 09:01 AM (klw0w)

197 FYI Jerusalem Post and Ha'Aretz are junta mouthpieces.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2023 09:01 AM (RIvkX)

198 Thirty-one Harvard organizations blame Israel for Hamas attack: ‘Entirely responsible’

https://tinyurl.com/8kjnr7rc

Posted by: redridinghood at October 09, 2023 09:01 AM (NpAcC)

199 Those who say that it is not our war and we should stay out of it fail to understand that the enemy is already here. It has been seeded throughout the USA and western countries. Look at all the protests throughout the world in support of Hamas.

These people are our neighbors.

It's too late to not be involved.

Regarding Israel going into Gaza, in the long run its pointless. Only one group can live and live in peace. It's them or us. There's is no coexist.

Posted by: Floridachick at October 09, 2023 09:02 AM (ef9Cr)

200 @196

>>Thoughts on Israel attacks... There is no way the Mossad didn't know this was coming. War=Money. The same way War=Money in Ukraine. Worldwide Deep State actions.

Maybe someone should send The Bobs to have a little talk with Mossad about what it is they do exactly?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2023 09:02 AM (XV/Pl)

201 Most Americans will probably blame this war on the Palestinians. But Israel must share the blame. How long were the Palestinians supposed to live under the oppression of Israel - having no medical care, no jobs, and no freedom? How long were they supposed to put up with Israel stealing their land for more illegal settlements. How long were they supposed to put up with Israel refusing to negotiate a real two-state solution?

Bibi created this mess and worked with Hamas to divide the Palestinian peoples. Netanyahu’s policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to recover from. So yet another example of a corrupt right wing criminal making the world worse for all.

The classic demonstration chant "No justice, no peace" applies here. If the Zionists in the apartheid state of Israel wish to live in peace, they must treat their Christian and Muslim neighbors as they wish to be treated.

Religion is a cancer on the planet. All these deaths and ongoing conflict over magical beings that don’t exist in reality. It’s ridiculous.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 09, 2023 09:02 AM (NCgXW)

202 161 There is at no point in this history an independent state of Palestine. The formation of a Palestinian(Arabic) identity was mostly focused on the conflict with Israel.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 09, 2023 08:51 AM (eYoxG)


And created by the KGB.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2023 09:02 AM (x0n13)

203 Lebanon is a failed state and probably can't stop Hezbollah without a civil war like in Syria. If Hezbollah wants to go in, they will. And if Hezbollah's flow of funds and weapons depends on their engagement (if, for example, Iran or Qatar are making demands and threatening to close the purse), I could see it happening.

All speculation, of course.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 09:00 AM (t0OGg)
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Yeah, Hezbollah doesn't answer to the Lebanese government. They answer to Iran and will do whatever Iran tells them to do, regardless of the consequences to Lebanon.

From Iran's perspective, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Palestinians, and the Lebanese are all expendable assets to be used towards the destruction of Israel. When those run out, Iran pulls back for a decade or so until the resources are replenished. Rinse and repeat.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2023 09:03 AM (YIVH2)

204 I hate to say it but I strongly suspect that amongst officials of the Biden administration they care more about continuing to fund the Ukraine war than they do about Israel’s security. Which is absolutely stunning given our 70+ year special relationship with Israel compared to a Ukraine that was part of the USSR for most of my life…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 09, 2023 09:03 AM (a0mpl)

205 Hezbollah's attacks maybe a diversionary attack to prevent Israel from applying full force against Gaza.

*pauses*

What is the West Bank doing?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2023 09:03 AM (CI7Tw)

206 >>(notice how scientists always get left out because people are dumb and Science is too hard)
I may add
Enrico Fermi
Giuseppe Garibaldi
Amedeo Avogadro
Alessandro Volta

>>and lastly two of my favorite ladies
Gina Lollobrigida (deceased this year) and Claudia Cardinale.

Giovanni da Verrazzano

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2023 09:03 AM (ZLI7S)

207 Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2023 09:01 AM (RIvkX)

Can you recommend a source?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 09, 2023 09:04 AM (YRsIm)

208 After the 600's, the land was passed from Empire to Caliphate to Crusader State to Empire, never having an independent existence. For the 400 years prior to WW1, it was a mostly desolate backwater of the Ottoman Empire, with few residents. From 1918 - 1947, it was a British Protectorate, and it was the British Government that revived the old Roman name of "Palestine " (they always had a fetish for Roman addectations) The history after 1947 you should know.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2023 09:04 AM (U8kyA)

209 185 Marisa Allasio, too. Mmmmmmm…

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 09, 2023 09:04 AM (9ITg2)

210 this is too simplistic, they vote local, they vote like the rest of the people where they live

Jews in TX probably vote R
Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:56 AM (V13WU)

We were talking specifically about jinos who vote for dems.

Not anyone else.

Posted by: Outside of Life at October 09, 2023 09:05 AM (89Sog)

211 182 that is also simplistic. If not, Virginia would not have gone from red to blue. Colorado would not have gone from red to blue, New Mexico, and for sure whatever Georgia is today.

I will leave it to others to discuss American Jewish voting habits. Maybe it is not the right time. But crap, half the country votes hard left when it comes down to it, that is why we’re always in a world of shit. Check out white single females or mainline Protestant females. The reality is certain self identifying groups vote certain ways.

If Repubs didn’t have more blue collar types, more male Hispanics and blacks, there would no longer even be another party vs the deep state.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2023 09:05 AM (+EQZQ)

212 From Iran's perspective, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Palestinians, and the Lebanese are all expendable assets to be used towards the destruction of Israel. When those run out, Iran pulls back for a decade or so until the resources are replenished. Rinse and repeat.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2023 09:03 AM (YIVH2)


The Muslim perspective is that "Palestine" is expendable. They do not believe in independent nation states. Their goal is world conquest with one state - Islam. Everything to that point is with the aim of achieving that.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2023 09:06 AM (x0n13)

213
Jack Poso 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
·
1h
Gaza getting pounded harder than Mia Khalifa

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2023 09:06 AM (TGPs7)

214 Most Americans will probably blame this war on the Palestinians. But Israel must share the blame. How long were the Palestinians supposed to live under the oppression of Israel - having no medical care, no jobs, and no freedom? How long were they supposed to put up with Israel stealing their land for more illegal settlements. How long were they supposed to put up with Israel refusing to negotiate a real two-state solution? ...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions ...
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What an ignoramus. Hamas controls Gaza, which has fixed borders. The settlement activity is on the other side, in the West Bank, and is an entirely different can of worms. Even if you argue that Israel shouldn't be settling its territory, you can't argue that it effects Gaza and the power center there.

Not to mention, of course, that the "Palestinians" being unemployed, impoverished and unfree is nobody's fault but theirs. Lord knows that everyone else - from Israel to the United States to other Arabs - have given them enough money and material to make a go of it if they wanted to. They don't want to. They'd rather make war.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 09:06 AM (t0OGg)

215 I hate autocorrect on my phone. Philistines.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2023 09:07 AM (U8kyA)

216 ... Religion is a cancer on the planet. All these deaths and ongoing conflict over magical beings that don’t exist in reality. It’s ridiculous.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 09, 2023 09:02 AM (NCgXW)
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This guy is pure.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 09:07 AM (t0OGg)

217 What is the West Bank doing?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2023 09:03 AM (CI7Tw)

Relatively calm right now

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2023 09:07 AM (pVWRI)

218 "Religion is a cancer on the planet. All these deaths and ongoing conflict over magical beings that don’t exist in reality. It’s ridiculous."

Because Atheist regimes have done such a great job caring for people in their countries/sarc.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2023 09:07 AM (RSbhh)

219 @213

>>Gaza getting pounded harder than Mia Khalifa

Or alternatively...

Tell me you are not familiar with the ouvre of Mia Khalifa without telling me you are unfamiliar with the ouvre of Mia Khalifa.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2023 09:07 AM (XV/Pl)

220 The Muslim perspective is that "Palestine" is expendable. They do not believe in independent nation states. Their goal is world conquest with one state - Islam. Everything to that point is with the aim of achieving that.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2023 09:06 AM (x0n13)
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Yep. Though with the sectarian difference between Shia (Iran) and Sunni (Arab) Islam, it'll be interesting to see what happens when/if they ever achieve a global Islamic Caliphate. Do they then go to war with each other?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2023 09:08 AM (YIVH2)

221 Bobby Anazlone (LB for the Lions) parents are trapped in Israel. Were with a 50+ person church group.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2023 09:08 AM (CIS44)

222 Can you recommend a source?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 09, 2023 09:04 AM (YRsIm)
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There are many but I have followed this channel for years

Israelnationalnews.com

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2023 09:08 AM (RIvkX)

223 I'm curious why the Deep State did not use restraint in it's response to the J6 protest, illegal parading and a few rowdy protesters. In fact, our govt never uses restraint when it's power and authority is challenged in any way whatsoever. Screw their lectures to Israel or others that want o defend themselves from barbarians.

Posted by: Ripley at October 09, 2023 09:08 AM (JojsZ)

224 Most Americans will probably blame this war on the Palestinians. But Israel must share the blame. How long were the Palestinians supposed to live under the oppression of Israel - having no medical care, no jobs, and no freedom? How long were they supposed to put up with Israel stealing their land for more illegal settlements. How long were they supposed to put up with Israel refusing to negotiate a real two-state solution? ...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions ...

There are times IU would debate you and your ignorant historical statements but not now , not today.

Get lost.
People like you are part of the problem

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2023 09:09 AM (pVWRI)

225 212 From Iran's perspective, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Palestinians, and the Lebanese are all expendable assets to be used towards the destruction of Israel. When those run out, Iran pulls back for a decade or so until the resources are replenished. Rinse and repeat.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2023 09:03 AM (YIVH2)


The Muslim perspective is that "Palestine" is expendable. They do not believe in independent nation states. Their goal is world conquest with one state - Islam. Everything to that point is with the aim of achieving that.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2023 09:06 AM (x0n13)

Indeed they believe in an eventual global empire rather than nations. The development of belief in nations rather than realms in the West is an interesting story itself.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 09, 2023 09:09 AM (eYoxG)

226 Bobby Anazlone (LB for the Lions) parents are trapped in Israel. Were with a 50+ person church group.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2023 09:08 AM (CIS44)

They are in Israel stuck without flights to get home? They will be fine.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2023 09:10 AM (pVWRI)

227 In DU's defense, the majority of comments are actually in support of Israel...or at least of the "Hamas crossed a line and has it coming". There's plenty of "both sides", "we need peace", and a disturbingly high amount of "Israel is evil, Free Palestine", but they're hardly unified on their response.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 09, 2023 09:10 AM (NCgXW)

228 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 2h
BREAKING: Hamas has issued a statement that Israel's airstrike in Gaza last night killed 4 Israeli hostages

[I don't know if that's from the obvious ammo-dump blown up this a.m. or not.]

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 09:10 AM (krqg6)

229 222>> Thanks. Bookmarked.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 09, 2023 09:11 AM (YRsIm)

230 Thoughtful editorial, JJS, after a horrible weekend. Seems t'me the war ongoing will not end in Israel, no matter Gaza's fate. The jihadis and their sympathizers infiltrate the whole Western world. WW3 is only warming up. "It's hard for me to believe that this time eyes have been opened and attitudes changed." Aberrant minds have their own reality, and rationalize away any contrary facts.

Did that make sense? I can't tell. Need a 2nd cup of coffee.

Posted by: mindful webworker - been busy at October 09, 2023 09:11 AM (o+cJ4)

231 199 Those who say that it is not our war and we should stay out of it fail to understand that the enemy is already here. It has been seeded throughout the USA and western countries. Look at all the protests throughout the world in support of Hamas.

These people are our neighbors.

It's too late to not be involved.

Regarding Israel going into Gaza, in the long run its pointless. Only one group can live and live in peace. It's them or us. There's is no coexist.
Posted by: Floridachick

My response to those rallying in support of the barbarians is, so be it. I no longer give you the benefit of the doubt for being internet idiots with only a few random functioning neural synapses. You are standing behind those who have unequivocally stated that genocide is their goal. You are a cancer. Cancer must be ruthlessly eradicated.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ne Obliviscaris at October 09, 2023 09:11 AM (qj8+t)

232 Savages! Savages!
What are we waiting for?
Destroy their evil race until there's not a trace left
We will sound the drums of war
How loud are the drums of war?
Now we sound the drums of war

Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2023 09:11 AM (RHGPo)

233 Good morning everyone. Thank you J.J.

Quote for the Day:

Evil may have its hour, but God will have His day.
-- Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen

Posted by: Tonypete at October 09, 2023 09:11 AM (J47y1)

234 Not so happy Monday.
Looks like ISIS 2.0 barbarism (though well past 2.0 for that region, right?).

>>I suppose I should be heartened by a photo I saw of the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin lit up with the Israeli flag.

Of all the 21st century woke gestures I despise, this is a top contender. Colored lights on buildings - you can practically see the useless virtue signal from the moon! I wish it meant something, but it's just reflexive "I support [current thing]."

Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2023 09:11 AM (izj35)

235 Tell me you are not familiar with the ouvre of Mia Khalifa without telling me you are unfamiliar with the ouvre of Mia Khalifa.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2023 09:07 AM (XV/Pl)
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So I'm cool because I'm clueless?

Finally!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2023 09:11 AM (RIvkX)

236 Gaza and the West Bank are settled by Arabs who chose to stay there. And we are also talking probably 8th generation parasitic vermin that the other Arab nations never wanted in their country, as what happened to Jordan showed.

Gaza and the West Bank produce nothing of value but consume large amounts materials and money.

It used to be the USSR that supported these vermin. But now it is Iran and Western NGOs. Cut off the supplies and they will wither and die.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2023 09:11 AM (CI7Tw)

237 >Jews in TX

as in 'Shalom, y'all' ?

Posted by: DB - at October 09, 2023 09:11 AM (geLO8)

238 There is at no point in this history an independent state of Palestine. The formation of a Palestinian(Arabic) identity was mostly focused on the conflict with Israel.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 09, 2023 08:51 AM

***

The 'palestinians' are a KGB creation. The greatest 'palestinian' of all time was an egyptian.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 09, 2023 09:11 AM (ZV+pB)

239 Hezbollah so far has done nothing but pro-forma pretend-to-do-something moves without actually doing anything, which gives me hope that they've decided that being rich, fat and happy in Lebanon is better than dying in Israel. Shooting mortars at Shebaa Farms is a day ending in a "y" type of thing for them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2023 09:11 AM (U8kyA)

240 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 2h
BREAKING: Hamas has issued a statement that Israel's airstrike in Gaza last night killed 4 Israeli hostages

[I don't know if that's from the obvious ammo-dump blown up this a.m. or not.]
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 09:10 AM (krqg6)

It is with a hard heart we must accept the fact those hostages are probably not going to make out alive.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2023 09:12 AM (pVWRI)

241 >>Evil may have its hour, but God will have His day.
-- Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen



I like that, Tonypete!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2023 09:12 AM (izj35)

242 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 2h
BREAKING: Hamas has issued a statement that Israel's airstrike in Gaza last night killed 4 Israeli hostages

[I don't know if that's from the obvious ammo-dump blown up this a.m. or not.]
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 09:10 AM (krqg6)
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Which would never have happened if Hamas hadn't taken the hostages in the first place.

It's unfortunate, but for Israel to do what it needs to do, it cannot consider the lives of hostages in their moral calculus, because Hamas will only use that as a weapon to undermine Israel's justification.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2023 09:12 AM (YIVH2)

243 > Tell me you are not familiar with the ouvre of Mia Khalifa without telling me you are unfamiliar with the ouvre of Mia Khalifa.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

I had to look it up
she is a saucy one

Posted by: DB - at October 09, 2023 09:13 AM (geLO8)

244 Do they then go to war with each other?

They have before, hence how the Prophet's grandson being killed happened.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2023 09:13 AM (CI7Tw)

245 Did Mike Pence really say the Hamas attack was Trump’s fault???
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 09, 2023 08:06 AM (a0mpl)

Essentially that arguing the US shouldn't poke it's nose into Ukraine is relinquishing the vital role as global arbiter and enforcer of everything. Therefore Hamas.

Basically he was saying ORANGEMANBAD (and DeSantis too, I believe) and it's important to remember at this time of crisis for Israel that we should spare no effort or expense to ramping up a war with Russia.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 09, 2023 09:13 AM (1Z8zZ)

246 The German government’s development minister, Svenja Schulze, announced on Sunday that as a result of the “terrible turning point” of Saturday’s surprise terror attacks and invasion of Israel by Hamas, a review will be conducted of the hundreds of millions that Germany supplies to Palestine.

Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2023 09:13 AM (RHGPo)

247 It's unfortunate, but for Israel to do what it needs to do, it cannot consider the lives of hostages in their moral calculus, because Hamas will only use that as a weapon to undermine Israel's justification.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2023 09:12 AM (YIVH2)'

Unfortunately that is spot on true

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 09, 2023 09:13 AM (pVWRI)

248 Hezbollah so far has done nothing but pro-forma pretend-to-do-something moves without actually doing anything, which gives me hope that they've decided that being rich, fat and happy in Lebanon is better than dying in Israel. Shooting mortars at Shebaa Farms is a day ending in a "y" type of thing for them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2023 09:11 AM (U8kyA)
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What if Israel has set up "fake farms" just for that purpose along the border? No actual farming takes place, but it gives Hezbollah targets to shoot at, which also gives Israel intelligence on Hezbollah...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2023 09:13 AM (YIVH2)

249 >>>Evil may have its hour, but God will have His day.
-- Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen



WHEN

Posted by: DB - at October 09, 2023 09:13 AM (geLO8)

250 Which would never have happened if Hamas hadn't taken the hostages in the first place.

It's unfortunate, but for Israel to do what it needs to do, it cannot consider the lives of hostages in their moral calculus, because Hamas will only use that as a weapon to undermine Israel's justification.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel a

Plus they arent releasing those hostages anyway.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2023 09:13 AM (CIS44)

251 Tell me you are not familiar with the ouvre of Mia Khalifa without telling me you are unfamiliar with the ouvre of Mia Khalifa.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2023 09:07 AM (XV/Pl)
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Does she not get pounded? What's the point of a porn chick that doesn't?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 09:14 AM (t0OGg)

252 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 3m
NOW - Israel conducting multiple airstrikes in Gaza

https://tinyurl.com/yc2ppsuf
25 seconds; wide panorama from balcony with Arabic commentary; I can't tell if any secondary, ammo explosions.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 09:14 AM (krqg6)

253 Sean Davis
@seanmdav

Imagine what our intel agencies could have done to prevent an act of war against our ally Israel if they spent their time spying on our enemies like Iran instead of spying on Catholic churches, tagging school board parents as terrorists, and jailing their political opposition.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 09, 2023 09:14 AM (NpAcC)

254 The German government’s development minister, Svenja Schulze, announced on Sunday that as a result of the “terrible turning point” of Saturday’s surprise terror attacks and invasion of Israel by Hamas, a review will be conducted of the hundreds of millions that Germany supplies to Palestine.
Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2023 09:13 AM (RHGPo)
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Who wants to wager that they will decide to send even MORE money to help the Palis rebuild after Israel's horrific attacks....

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2023 09:14 AM (YIVH2)

255 249 >>>Evil may have its hour, but God will have His day.
-- Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen



WHEN
Posted by: DB - at October 09, 2023 09:13 AM (geLO

Well the bad news is it gets worse first. Way worse.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 09, 2023 09:14 AM (eYoxG)

256 235 Tell me you are not familiar with the ouvre of Mia Khalifa without telling me you are unfamiliar with the ouvre of Mia Khalifa.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2023 09:07 AM (XV/Pl)
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So I'm cool because I'm clueless?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2023 09:11 AM

A quick Google search of the key words will make everything clear. I recommend doing it along with the family. "Mia Khalifa pounded" should be sufficient.

Posted by: Kurt "Tentacle" Eichenwald at October 09, 2023 09:15 AM (NCgXW)

257 Just looked up the Mia Khalifa chick. Quite the rack on that lady. Yowza.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 09, 2023 09:15 AM (9ITg2)

258 Plus they arent releasing those hostages anyway.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2023 09:13 AM (CIS44)
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If anything, Israel granted those hostages a much quicker and less brutal death than they would have received from their captors, who delight in torture and mutilation.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2023 09:15 AM (YIVH2)

259 >>Tell me you are not familiar with the ouvre of Mia Khalifa without telling me you are unfamiliar with the ouvre of Mia Khalifa.


After seeing her social media post, I am glad I had never heard of her.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2023 09:16 AM (izj35)

260 So Germany is going for the 'strongly worded letter' approach even after one of that country's citizens was captured, tortured, and paraded around by Hamas?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2023 09:16 AM (CI7Tw)

261 Someone was shocked when I stated yesterday that Israel should immediately target, with bombs, any site where hostages may be held. It is harsh, and cruel, but this is Real War and they have to be treated as if they are already dead. *they probably are) The enemy has to be shown with absolute ruthlessness that they will gain NO advantage in taking or holding any.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2023 09:17 AM (U8kyA)

262 If anything, Israel granted those hostages a much quicker and less brutal death than they would have received from their captors, who delight in torture and mutilation.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel a

exactly.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2023 09:17 AM (CIS44)

263 Might they do Harvard next??

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 10m
BREAKING: Israel has bombed the vicinity of the Islamic University in Gaza

https://tinyurl.com/bdhcmnmk
34 seconds; very smokey

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 09:17 AM (krqg6)

264 That view is so uneducated and distorted it boggles the mind
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2023 08:54 AM (RIvkX)

Yes; That's why I decided not to get into a argument with her over the phone, and to ask here for resources instead.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2023 09:17 AM (RSbhh)

265 The German government’s development minister, Svenja Schulze, announced on Sunday that as a result of the “terrible turning point” of Saturday’s surprise terror attacks and invasion of Israel by Hamas, a review will be conducted of the hundreds of millions that Germany supplies to Palestine.
Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2023 09:13 AM (RHGPo)
++++
I am sure this is true. After the review is completed, the aid will continue.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 09:18 AM (t0OGg)

266 Cold bitter logic is to assume all the hostages are dead but fight as if trying to save them.

And screw the enemy body count, stack 'em high.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2023 09:18 AM (CI7Tw)

267 247 the Israelis can do both. I can see why Americans and most think it can only be one or the other, but they can do both. They have already rescued many.

Posted by: Quint at October 09, 2023 09:19 AM (+EQZQ)

268 And screw the enemy body count, stack 'em high.
Posted by: Anna Puma at Octob

build a wall out of em like in '300'

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2023 09:20 AM (CIS44)

269 243 > Tell me you are not familiar with the ouvre of Mia Khalifa without telling me you are unfamiliar with the ouvre of Mia Khalifa.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

I had to look it up
she is a saucy one
Posted by: DB - at October 09, 2023 09:13 AM

She's been trying to transition to more legitimate work, like Sports Reporting and victim clouting. Her past shouldn't be held against her, she's being exploited, etc. Great news report a few years ago about her at a hockey game, the puck flew into the crowd and hit her, rupturing one of her fake breasts lol.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 09, 2023 09:20 AM (NCgXW)

270 There's a story at GP that says the is a Canadian Israeli peace activist named Vivian Silver who got health care for Gaza children and organized Arab Jewish women in marches for peace. She's now a hostage. Learn lessons peacenik

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 09, 2023 09:20 AM (eNQKw)

271 THIRTY-ONE Harvard organizations including college's Amnesty International affiliate blame Israel for Hamas' brutal terror attack which has killed more than 700 people: 'Something is deeply, deeply wrong in academia'
https://mol.im/a/12609405

Posted by: Ciampino - Grind the deans at October 09, 2023 09:20 AM (qfLjt)

272 >>Sean Davis
@seanmdav

Imagine what our intel agencies could have done to prevent an act of war against our ally Israel if they spent their time spying on our enemies like Iran instead of spying on Catholic churches, tagging school board parents as terrorists, and jailing their political opposition.
- - - -

Well, that assumes the IC and current administration sees Hamas and Iran as the enemy. As with the Obama administration, I doubt they do. Apart from the radica muslims brought into the Pentagon and State under Obama (how many remained?), is there any confidence that arrogant, naive dunderheads like Jake Sullivan understand that Iran, Hamas, the Taliban are not just another piece on their chess board to sweet talk, bargain with, and buy with goodwill and US aid?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2023 09:20 AM (izj35)

273 Leftists don't understand economics, so you have to dumb it down for them.

In Democrat terms, think of Iran as Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden owes $6,000 in child support (humanitarian aid) but wants to buy $6K worth of blow (Hamas terrorism). China (Biden) pays off his child support, so now he has $6K to spend on blow. (Minus 10% for the big guy.)

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 09, 2023 09:21 AM (9yUzE)

274 Can Israel bomb Oberlin while they are at it?

It seems Oberlin is pretending they have surrendered that $1.5 million sketch of their own volition and not because of that Federal seizure warrant.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2023 09:21 AM (CI7Tw)

275 How long were they supposed to put up with Israel refusing to negotiate a real two-state solution? ...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions
-----------
It looks like the DUmmies aren't the only "two-staters", Intercepted DU Transmissions

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 2h
BREAKING - Russia says creating Palestinian state ‘most reliable’ solution to Israel conflict rb.gy/whp51
[AFP link]
==========
BTW, Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions isn't a troll -- he quotes the leftist DU f#cks

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 09:22 AM (krqg6)

276 So I'm cool because I'm clueless?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2023 09:11 AM

We're both cluless and cool. I'm also the person who primarily associates "strippers" with stuff to remove floor wax.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2023 09:22 AM (RSbhh)

277 Given the shutdown of electricity, water, and communications, I think a strong effort could eliminate all organized Hamas forces within 2 to 3 weeks.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2023 09:22 AM (U8kyA)

278 well this has been an extremely clarifying weekend on X for me

"clarifying" as in how you clarify butter

got rid of a lot of f*cking dumbasses just UNABLE to give Israel any quarter. SICKENING

on top of being incredibly angry at what was done to the people of Israel by a feral armed force... blah

and I have to work today. seems unfair! Italians should at least get off for this un-celebrated day

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 09, 2023 09:22 AM (AcWfM)

279 Chief of Staff of Pentagon Counterterrorism Office served the Iranian mullahs. She’s still on the job, with security clearances. Consider our special ops forces to be compromised.

https://is.gd/5oWGha

Posted by: Ciampino - Grind the deans to dust at October 09, 2023 09:23 AM (qfLjt)

280 Great news report a few years ago about her at a hockey game, the puck flew into the crowd and hit her, rupturing one of her fake breasts lol.
Posted by: Moron Analyst

A step up from usually taking balls to the chin.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 09, 2023 09:23 AM (J47y1)

281 @TheInsiderPaper
BREAKING: Israel has bombed the vicinity of the Islamic University in Gaza ...
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 09:17 AM (krqg6)
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Good. There are no non-military targets in Gaza. There are two reasons why:
1. If a total war is on, then all targets are military targets. If the goal of the war is to break the spine of the enemy (as opposed to achieving a specific objective to enable settlement), then there are no civilians - on either side. When there are no civilians, everything is a military target. Hamas decided - and made clear in its opening actions - that this is a total war and so there are no civilians.
2. If you use a normal "civilian" venue for war activity, it is no longer a civilian venue. The Germans were right when they declared that the Lusitania was a legitimate military target because it was hauling munitions as well as passengers, and Israel is right when it strikes schools and hospitals that are hiding rockets and enemy combatants.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 09:23 AM (t0OGg)

282 I wasn't that engaged w/the news this weekend -- anyone see comments from Obama or Kerry this weekend in response to the Iran-backed horrors?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2023 09:23 AM (izj35)

283 270 There's a story at GP that says the is a Canadian Israeli peace activist named Vivian Silver who got health care for Gaza children and organized Arab Jewish women in marches for peace. She's now a hostage. Learn lessons peacenik


if she makes it out alive, she'll have learned nothing at all

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 09, 2023 09:24 AM (AcWfM)

284 Oh, TonyPete, that's good.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2023 09:25 AM (U8kyA)

285 if she makes it out alive, she'll have learned nothing at all

Stockholm Syndrome?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2023 09:25 AM (CI7Tw)

286 #275 ||Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Monday that creating a Palestinian state was the “most reliable” solution for peace in Israel and that fighting terrorism alone would not ensure security.

He spoke during a press conference with the head of the Arab League, Ahmed Aboul Gheit, who visited Russia after the Palestinian Islamist group Hamas launched a massive surprise attack on Saturday.||

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h
BREAKING: Arab League chief warns if Israel does not change its position, this war will not be the last

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 3h
BREAKING 🚨 Russia, Arab League will work to ‘stop bloodshed’ in Israel, Gaza: Lavrov

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 09:25 AM (krqg6)

287 @282 Lizzy , haven't seen any but I'm sure Kerry will urge Israeli restrained to minimize climate change

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 09, 2023 09:25 AM (eNQKw)

288 I try Tom.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 09, 2023 09:26 AM (J47y1)

289 Good. There are no non-military targets in Gaza.
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Harsh but true.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2023 09:26 AM (YzcUg)

290 btw that quote from W

I remember that day very well, I was floored and sickened. Me and Tom Petty I guess lol. it was another clarifying moment

anyway the bright side is now people know not to trust us or care what we think policy-wise. they know we've lost our minds or are compromised.

different from back then when the world followed W's inane advice

hopefully the worm is turning

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 09, 2023 09:26 AM (AcWfM)

291 The organizations released a letter to the public as a 'Joint Statement by Harvard Palestine Solidarity Groups on the Situation in Palestine' on Sunday to condemn Israel in the wake of the violence.

They claim that Hamas' attacks, which are still ongoing, 'did not happen in a vacuum' and the Israeli government has forced Palestinians to live in 'an open-air prison for over two decades.'
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Hmmm. I guess the "Palestinians" have no agency. They have no one to blame but themselves for their conditions.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 09:26 AM (t0OGg)

292 Can't you just let me eat my pancakes?
- Obama

I just want to eat my BBQ chicken.
- Biden

Posted by: Cheri at October 09, 2023 09:27 AM (FGQ5G)

293 if she makes it out alive, she'll have learned nothing at all

Stockholm Syndrome?

inability to accept - ever - that her worldview is incorrect

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 09, 2023 09:27 AM (AcWfM)

294 "Israel has bombed the vicinity of the Islamic University in Gaza .."

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They should fire bomb the whole thing.

They should also round up and imprison every military aged male in Gaza.

Posted by: Jay in PA at October 09, 2023 09:27 AM (i7Q7S)

295 Press releases like that from Russia cost the Russians nothing but it keeps the Arabs happy and screws with US policy.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2023 09:27 AM (CI7Tw)

296 >>Chief of Staff of Pentagon Counterterrorism Office served the Iranian mullahs. She’s still on the job, with security clearances. Consider our special ops forces to be compromised.


WTF

Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2023 09:27 AM (izj35)

297 WTF
Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2023 09:27 AM (izj35)
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Your government in action.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 09:28 AM (t0OGg)

298 What I'd like to see the IDF do is to take the top half mile or so of the strip; then pause, send all the residents south into the rest of Gaza, and then demolish ALL structures there into piles of brick rubble. Wash, rinse, repeat. End game: all 2 million residents of Gaza standing on each other's toes in the bottom 600 yards of the strip

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2023 09:28 AM (U8kyA)

299 I recall when terrorists launched attacks from their territory they'd use schools, mosques and hospitals as their preferred launch sites. Typically those sites were off limits.

I hope those are primary targets this go-'round.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 09, 2023 09:29 AM (Q4IgG)

300 @281

>>that this is a total war and so there are no civilians.

Yes, but you and I know this is not how this is going to be viewed by "The International Community."

Israel has to accomplish a lot in very quick order before the window to deal with this closes.


Perhaps their IC could have done a better job.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2023 09:29 AM (XV/Pl)

301 We're both cluless and cool. I'm also the person who primarily associates "strippers" with stuff to remove floor wax.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2023 09:22 AM (RSbhh)
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Have you tried new Shimmer? It's New!

Posted by: Dan Aykroyd at October 09, 2023 09:29 AM (RIvkX)

302 I am almost morbidly curious about what mentally challenged take on the Israel situation will be offered by the Post-Menopausal Brain Trust on TheView

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 09, 2023 09:29 AM (9yUzE)

303 What I'd like to see the IDF do is to take the top half mile or so of the strip; then pause, send all the residents south into the rest of Gaza, and then demolish ALL structures there into piles of brick rubble. Wash, rinse, repeat. End game: all 2 million residents of Gaza standing on each other's toes in the bottom 600 yards of the strip
Posted by: Tom Servo

Then bomb the shit out that.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2023 09:29 AM (CIS44)

304 build a wall out of em like in '300'
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2023 09:20 AM (CIS44)

I used to stack fucks likes Hamas five feet high in Korea... use them for sand bags.

Posted by: Walt Kowalski at October 09, 2023 09:29 AM (waTSl)

305 >>The organizations released a letter to the public as a 'Joint Statement by Harvard Palestine Solidarity Groups on the Situation in Palestine' on Sunday to condemn Israel in the wake of the violence.


Utterly predictable.
Linda Sarsour make a statement yet?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2023 09:30 AM (izj35)

306 @302 that's easy "it's all Trump's fault"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 09, 2023 09:30 AM (eNQKw)

307 Israel should announce that a good number of palis sitting in jail were shot...trying to escape.

Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 09:30 AM (V13WU)

308 I am almost morbidly curious about what mentally challenged take on the Israel situation will be offered by the Post-Menopausal Brain Trust on TheView

Cthulhu is less insane dude... hell they make the DU seem rational.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2023 09:30 AM (CI7Tw)

309 Yes, but you and I know this is not how this is going to be viewed by "The International Community." ...
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2023 09:29 AM (XV/Pl)
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Yes indeed and so time is of the essence. But seeing as how Netanyahu is finished anyway, I hope he takes the opportunity to tell the "International Community" to pound sand.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 09:31 AM (t0OGg)

310 >>I am almost morbidly curious about what mentally challenged take on the Israel situation will be offered by the Post-Menopausal Brain Trust on TheView


It will be the fault of 'known antisemite' Trump and his neo-na$i supporters. Not sure what the *ahem* logic will be, but could they really blame anyone else?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2023 09:32 AM (izj35)

311 295
That was my take too. Pandering to the Arabs at everyone else’s expense.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 09, 2023 09:32 AM (jSru6)

312 286 #275 ||Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Monday that creating a Palestinian state was the “most reliable” solution for peace in Israel and that fighting terrorism alone would not ensure security.

Since there is no such thing as a "Palestinian" why would they need a State ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2023 09:32 AM (bs+z0)

313
In fourteen hundred ninety two
Columbus sailed the ocean blue
Had he known then what someday might be
He could have u-turned and gone back to sea

Posted by: DB - at October 09, 2023 09:32 AM (geLO8)

314 "How can those of us who support Israel and perhaps have a desire to render American aid and assistance at the same time decry – and rightly so – wasting tens and perhaps hundreds of billions of dollars as well as American boots on the ground in Ukraine?"

Simple - Israel is actually, really allied with America. That's what allies do. Ukraine is not. The war there is a grift to pump as much American tax dollars as possible through the most corrupt region in the world

Posted by: Chuck Hemangioma at October 09, 2023 09:33 AM (eHlk6)

315 The organizations released a letter to the public as a 'Joint Statement by Harvard Palestine Solidarity Groups on the Situation in Palestine' on Sunday to condemn Israel in the wake of the violence.


Utterly predictable.
Linda Sarsour make a statement yet?
Posted by: Lizzy

I'm withholding judgement on who's the bad actor until I hear from Amanpour.


(Do I really need the sarc tag?)

Posted by: Tonypete at October 09, 2023 09:33 AM (J47y1)

316 *rummages the memory banks*

Didn't the US State Department have one of their own murdered by the PLO in Gaza or the West Bank?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2023 09:33 AM (CI7Tw)

317 270 There's a story at GP that says the is a Canadian Israeli peace activist named Vivian Silver who got health care for Gaza children and organized Arab Jewish women in marches for peace. She's now a hostage. Learn lessons peacenik
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Rebel News @RebelNewsOnline 16h
Vivian Silver, a Canadian-Israeli peace activist from Winnipeg, was abducted from her home on Kibbutz Be'eri during Hamas terrorist attacks which began Saturday. rebelne.ws/3Q6YZGB

Canadian citizen among Israelis kidnapped to Gaza by Hamas terrorists - Rebel News
Lilian Silver, a Canadian-Israeli peace activist from Winnipeg, was abducted from her home on Kibbutz Be'eri during Hamas terrorist attacks which began Saturday.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 09:33 AM (krqg6)

318 Better yet for the Hamas prisoners- put out a public statement saying that Israel is releasing all prisoners who've given them accurate targeting information to Hamas sites in Gaza - then send them back home.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2023 09:33 AM (U8kyA)

319 yikes, 300k reservists mobilized

Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 09:34 AM (V13WU)

320 Excellent post today, jj, as always. But you say entropy can be fixed. No, thermodynamics says it is irreversible.
There is no fixing it, no going back.

Posted by: The Macho Montanan at October 09, 2023 09:35 AM (HQ9YJ)

321
Mike Pence
@Mike_Pence
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22h
This is what happens when we have leading voices like Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Ron DeSantis signaling retreat from America’s role as leader of the free world. When I’m President of the United States, we’ll lead from American Strength.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2023 09:35 AM (TGPs7)

322 319 yikes, 300k reservists mobilized
Posted by: runner
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Israel declared war. You don't sit and wait for further attacks but you take it to the enemy.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2023 09:35 AM (YzcUg)

323 Mike Pence
@Mike_Pence

F" off Mike

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2023 09:35 AM (bs+z0)

324 What I'd like to see the IDF do is to take the top half mile or so of the strip; then pause, send all the residents south into the rest of Gaza, and then demolish ALL structures there into piles of brick rubble. Wash, rinse, repeat. End game: all 2 million residents of Gaza standing on each other's toes in the bottom 600 yards of the strip
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2023 09:28 AM (U8kyA)
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I also considered this strategy as encouraging hostage release as well as minimizing civilian casualties, if they cared to.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2023 09:36 AM (RIvkX)

325 museum gift shop is open

Posted by: DB - at October 09, 2023 09:36 AM (geLO8)

326 FVCK Mike Pence with Hunter Biden's diseased dick.

Do NOT make what is happening in Israel a political ad for your already failed campaign.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 09, 2023 09:36 AM (CI7Tw)

327 RNC Research @RNCResearch 17h
Six Members of Congress are part of this organization: Rashida Tlaib (D-MI), Shri Thanedar (D-MI), Cori Bush (D-MO), Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Jamaal Bowman (D-NY), and Greg Casar (D-TX).

Do they stand by this disgusting statement?

Quote tweet: DSA @DemSocialists Oct 8
DSA is steadfast in expressing our solidarity with Palestine.

Today’s events are a direct result of Israel’s apartheid regime—a regime that receives billions in funding from the United States.

End the violence. End the Occupation. Free Palestine.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 09:36 AM (krqg6)

328 Posted by: Mister Ghost

You could have stopped at attributing Mike Pence. The rest of what he said is bullshit as he is the one hiding and prevaricating what he truly is--a moral and physical coward.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2023 09:37 AM (YzcUg)

329 The will of the Gazans has to broken.

As many of them should be eliminated as necessary.

This in the Old Times used to be called "defeating the enemy"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 09, 2023 09:37 AM (RIvkX)

330 >>This is what happens when we have leading voices like Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Ron DeSantis signaling retreat from America’s role as leader of the free world. When I’m President of the United States, we’ll lead from American Strength.


Alrighty, Mike!

Not wanting to be pulled into a Ukraine forever war right after a bloody, costly extraction from the 20+ Afghanistan forever war = retreat from American leadership. Got it. You are not fit to lead, buddy.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2023 09:38 AM (izj35)

331 321 ... we’ll lead from American Strength.
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Um with what money ?...and with what arms? It's all been given to Ukraine.

Posted by: meal team 6 at October 09, 2023 09:38 AM (T98BF)

332 "The Lord is my light and my salvation—
whom shall I fear?
The Lord is the stronghold of my life—
of whom shall I be afraid?"

Psalm 27:1

Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2023 09:38 AM (JOV35)

333 @Mike_Pence
This is what happens when we have leading voices like Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Ron DeSantis signaling retreat from America’s role as leader of the free world. When I’m President of the United States, we’ll lead from American Strength.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2023 09:35 AM (TGPs7)
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Huh?

I have my problems with Trump, but the man was a foreign policy titan. He managed to reassert deterrence with minimal loss of life (intervention in Syria was a big factor in that), negotiate a major new (if partial) peace agreement between various Arab states and Israel, put trade and economic issues back on the table for foreign negotiation, effectively contained Iran, stabilized the relationship with Russia and won major gains with important players like India.

Was Pence absent that day, or what?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 09:38 AM (t0OGg)

334 The increasingly delusional Pence has already made the rounds on Democrat "news" shows blaming Trump and DeSantis for these attacks. Yes, really.

Posted by: Cheri at October 09, 2023 09:38 AM (FGQ5G)

335
When Mike Pence says, 'Lead from strength' he means hide behind Nancy Pelosi shivering in fear while Buffalo Guy gets a Capitol grand tour.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2023 09:39 AM (enJYY)

336 NOOD Art

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2023 09:39 AM (bs+z0)

337 Thank you, JJ.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at October 09, 2023 09:39 AM (gxokI)

338 #333 you beat me to it and much better!

Posted by: Cheri at October 09, 2023 09:40 AM (FGQ5G)

339 To our enemies: Barbarism, terror and fear? Poor choice of weapons. There are some amongst us who have barbarism buried deep in our gene pool also. You want an atavistic response? Here is what you will get.

https://tinyurl.com/48kezftp

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ne Obliviscaris at October 09, 2023 09:43 AM (qj8+t)

340 Scott Adams
@ScottAdamsSays
Like the rest of you, I'm trying to understand the Hamas strategy.

On the surface, it looks insane. There's no real hope of conquering Israel, and no hope it will make anything better for anyone. Nor can any "expert" explain their strategy without appeal to some form of group insanity.

But Hamas seems too capable to be dismissed as crazy people. And their Iranian handlers are likely not insane either.

So I rule out "making anything better" as a Hamas objective.

What is left?

Israel's response will (necessarily) create civilian hardship in Gaza that is likely to shock the civilized world. And that will, in theory, weaken Israel's holocaust narrative that is -- by far -- it's most valuable asset.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2023 09:43 AM (TGPs7)

341 Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Monday that creating a Palestinian state was the “most reliable” solution for peace in Israel and that fighting terrorism alone would not ensure security.
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Bad look for Russia, mimicking US State Department talking points like that.

Posted by: Methos at October 09, 2023 09:43 AM (Dnobf)

342 Yes indeed and so time is of the essence. But seeing as how Netanyahu is finished anyway, I hope he takes the opportunity to tell the "International Community" to pound sand.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

I don't know that Netanyahu is finished. Comparisons with the Golda Meir era are really not that appropriate with today's Israeli political scene. Essentially, Israeli politics is entirely opaque to outsiders and based more on individuals now than principles etc. Since in coalitional type governments, cabinet ministers are doled out to different parties that have a vested interest in staying in office to achieve their narrow party goals.

Trudeau, for example, keeps on being a dick on the road to be hated in Canada but there won't be elections until their time limit is up. His coalitional partners for various reasons will keep his governing majority propped up as long as they get theirs.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2023 09:44 AM (YzcUg)

343 Scott Adams cont.

Looks to me as if Hamas is playing a long game. Step one, weaken the Holocaust narrative and gain more militant supporters across the region. All it will cost Hamas is severe hardship for 1.7 million people on their side. But few of those people were thriving.

That makes Saudi Arabia the most important player in this drama. When and if they take a side, the new narrative is formed.

[Note: I don't know anything about this topic. But neither do the experts. None saw this coming.]

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2023 09:44 AM (TGPs7)

344 >>Um with what money ?...and with what arms? It's all been given to Ukraine.


Leadership in Ukraine would have been pushing for a peace agreement, not pressuring Zelensky to abandon that path. And stepping back from insisting that Uktaine join NATO.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2023 09:45 AM (izj35)

345 I'm 100% in agreement with JJ's opening remarks.
The only thing these savages understand is death, which they choose over life. But they're in for a schooling in the afterlife, which is right around the corner. The Israelis are ring___ the bell.

Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2023 09:47 AM (NxC5+)

346 Posted by: Marcus T at October 09, 2023 09:38 AM (JOV35)

Thanks; Great quote!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2023 09:47 AM (RSbhh)

347 I don't know that Netanyahu is finished. Comparisons with the Golda Meir era are really not that appropriate with today's Israeli political scene. Essentially, Israeli politics is entirely opaque to outsiders and based more on individuals now than principles etc. Since in coalitional type governments, cabinet ministers are doled out to different parties that have a vested interest in staying in office to achieve their narrow party goals. ...
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2023 09:44 AM (YzcUg)
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We will see. Political vagaries notwithstanding, surviving a failure of this magnitude would be unusual in *any* country.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 09:47 AM (t0OGg)

348 One of the oldest rules in American gangland was formulated by Murray "the Camel" Humphreys of the Capone mob in Chicago: "If you ever have to cock a gun in a man's face, kill him. If you walk away without killing him after doing that, he'll kill you the next day."

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Words of wisdom.
Posted by: davidt at October 09, 2023 07:52 AM (SYTee)

Second only to Johnny Caspar's 'Always put one in the brain.'

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 09, 2023 09:48 AM (aD39U)

349 >>On the surface, it looks insane. There's no real hope of conquering Israel, and no hope it will make anything better for anyone. Nor can any "expert" explain their strategy without appeal to some form of group insanity.


Annihilation of the Jewish people and the Jewish state?
You have to understand their values to understand their goal - and how many of us Westerners really understand the hatred they have?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2023 09:48 AM (izj35)

350 Hmmmm.

Visegrád 24 @visegrad24 1h
The German diplomat & EU's Ambassador to the Palestinians, Sven Kühn von Burgsdorff, performed the first paragliding flight ever in Gaza in July this year to "draw attention to Israel's occupation of Gaza"

He stated: "I did this to prove that everything is possible in Gaza"

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 09:48 AM (krqg6)

351 Rita Panahi
@RitaPanahi
·
4h
Successful Australian businessman arrested by NSW Police for the heinous crime of waving an Israeli flag around at a Hamas love-in. I’ll be speaking to him tomorrow morning on
@SkyNewsAust

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2023 09:51 AM (TGPs7)

352 Mario Nawfal

@MarioNawfal
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5h
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🚨 BREAKING: HEZBOLLAH OFFICIAL STATEMENT

“Palestine is not Ukraine. If America intervenes directly, all American locations in the region will become legitimate targets of the resistance axis and will face our attacks. And on this day there will be no red line left."

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2023 09:54 AM (TGPs7)

353 #149 update from the Lebanese guy's pro-Russia pro-Hamas military-info Xtwitter account -- thus the IDF being called 'regime soldiers':

War Monitor @WarMonitors 7m
⚡️Israeli Channel 13: 3 regime soldiers were injured in an exchange of fire with gunmen who infiltrated from Lebanon

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 09:57 AM (krqg6)

354 Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer

Stay out of major cities. There’s going to be massive terrorist attacks in big cities over these next 14 months.

We have been infiltrated. Our borders are open & the push to create a global Islamic caliphate has been activated.

You don’t want to be in major cities. Stay away.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2023 09:57 AM (TGPs7)

355 Good morning, all. As always, thanks, J.J.

Last evening, it was reported the young woman whose body was paraded through the streets by Hamas in the back of a pickup truck was German. Her family ID'ed her through a horrific video showing only some of the violence & carnage.

Two Thais have been killed, eight were injured and 11 captured as Hamas launched the assault on targets beyond the Gaza Strip. The Thai government sent aircraft to evacuate its citizens living near the conflict zone. (Bangkok Post) Several Americans were among those killed. Reportedly, British, Nepali & French nationals are also among those killed, missing, or abducted.

Will the US allow Hamas to be wiped out? Is ISIS still active in the world?

It's a Federal holiday, few are around. The Senior Staff is sleeping in, walking off the WH BBQ/Columbus Day cookout of yesterday.(Remember it's really Columbus Day, not Indigenous Peoples' Day, & Dr. Professor had an Italian patriarch.)

Also, with the House not having a current Speaker, much will be entangled with Ukraine!! & laid at the feet of the Republicans now & forever. But they just let it go.

Only some peoples' history matters.

Posted by: L - Only 5 1/2 hrs. by car from his home to East Palestine, OH at October 09, 2023 09:59 AM (GshMh)

356 On Sunday, Secretary of State Antony Blinken was on all the Sunday morning political shows to answer questions about the war that has started in Israel. He didn’t admit what a bone-headed move it was to supply Iranians with billions of dollars but he did let the truth come out. Blinken admitted on Meet the Press that “Iran has unfortunately always used and focused its funds on supporting terrorism.” All the gaslighting going on by Team Biden and its Democrat supporters was thrown under the bus by that one statement.

Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2023 10:01 AM (RHGPo)

357
Elizabeth Warren
@SenWarren
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34m
On #IndigenousPeoplesDay, we celebrate the resilience, sovereignty, and rich cultures of Native communities. But the federal government has long failed to fulfill its obligations to tribal nations. We must do more to honor and uphold our promises to Native peoples.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2023 10:02 AM (TGPs7)

358 @SenWarren
On #IndigenousPeoplesDay, we celebrate the resilience, sovereignty, and rich cultures of Native communities. But the federal government has long failed to fulfill its obligations to tribal nations. We must do more to honor and uphold our promises to Native peoples.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2023 10:02 AM (TGPs7)
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It's "Columbus Day," Liz.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 09, 2023 10:03 AM (t0OGg)

359 34m
On #IndigenousPeoplesDay, we celebrate the resilience, sovereignty, and rich cultures of Native communities. But the federal government has long failed to fulfill its obligations to tribal nations. We must do more to honor and uphold our promises to Native peoples.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2023 10:02 AM (TGPs7)

Columbus day you POS fake Indian

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2023 10:04 AM (bs+z0)

360 Israel is laying waste to Gaza.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2023 10:04 AM (ZLI7S)

361
John Cusack
@johncusack

I can’t imagine how much more exponentially dangerous this moment would be with trump and maga being n power .
It’s truly hard to imagine

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2023 10:05 AM (TGPs7)

362 We will see. Political vagaries notwithstanding, surviving a failure of this magnitude would be unusual in *any* country.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Cough, FDR and GWB, Cough. It is more whether Netanyahu and his government has the will to win now that matters.

The whole secular Mossad/Military Deep State opposition to curbing the Supreme Court has weakened their authority and given Netanyahu a bit of cover for the intel/military failures.

What this event does is kill the left's talking points in Israel and buttresses that of the right there. But, follow up is crucial.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2023 10:06 AM (YzcUg)

363 Ukraine is an intra-Slavic turf war over a disputed strip of land. Not my battle. Israel is about civilization and those who will commit genocide to destroy it, and who seek to destroy Judeo-Christianity too. That affects me and my country.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at October 09, 2023 07:59 AM (d9Cw3)
==
It's funny, because I don't disagree with your distinction. But in the world of strategic realities, they both are important. Ukraine to de-fang Russia forever. Israel, to support the ever increasing middle eastern coalition aligning against Iran.

They are both important - and I don't understand why Ukraine has become such a left/right issue. Because let's face it - everything we spend money on is part of the graft the political class feasts on.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 09, 2023 10:06 AM (GZYu7)

364 Even the post office calls it Columbus Day.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 09, 2023 10:08 AM (63Dwl)

365
Israel is laying waste to Gaza.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2023 10:04 AM

How long before Biden sends a troop ship over there to grab some refugees for resettlement here? Just what we do not need.

Fvck. I know he'll do it.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 09, 2023 10:09 AM (enJYY)

366 John Cusack
@johncusack

I can’t imagine how much more exponentially dangerous this moment would be with trump and maga being n power .
It’s truly hard to imagine
Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2023 10:05 AM (TGPs7)

Do these half wits actual believe the garbage they spew ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 09, 2023 10:09 AM (bs+z0)

367 Don't change horses in mid stream. Uncle Joe's steady hand on the tiller.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 09, 2023 10:10 AM (63Dwl)

368 Best to not show their stupid quotes. Yes, I mean John Cusack and Anthony Blinken. No difference when they are spouting stupidity.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 09, 2023 10:11 AM (2NHgQ)

369 Well this has been a fun morning thus far.
This lottery winner contacting me ?
Well, what ever.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at October 09, 2023 10:12 AM (ZhVdF)

370 Do these half wits actual believe the garbage they spew ?
Posted by: It's me donna
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Many of them have out of sight handlers that do their thinking for them.

Posted by: whig at October 09, 2023 10:14 AM (YzcUg)

371 Black hat @WorldObserver0 5h [Pali shit]
Al-Qassam publishes:
Scenes shown for the first time of the locally made “Mubar 1” air defense system

https://tinyurl.com/424jwt74
57 second propaganda video; Nitter link to deny X payments to dickhead.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 10:16 AM (krqg6)

372 Megatron
@Megatron_ron
BREAKING:

Saudi Arabia ends "all negotiations" on normalisation with Israel.

Saudi Arabia has informed the US Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, that it is "ending all negotiations" on normalising relations with Israel, reports the Israeli newspaper The Jerusalem Post, echoed by the Saudi media outlet The Saudi Post, published in the United States.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2023 10:21 AM (TGPs7)

373 Saudi Arabia ends "all negotiations" on normalisation with Israel.
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Mission Accomplished, if true.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 10:22 AM (krqg6)

374 Avi Yemini

@OzraeliAvi
·
12m
🚨Lebanese border is escalating quickly

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2023 10:25 AM (TGPs7)

375 Konstantin Kisin
@KonstantinKisin

Let me remind you "sophisticated" Western people of something you don't understand about "primitive" people in the rest of the world.

They're more honest than you. They don't pretend that strength is bad. They crave it. And it's the only language they understand.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 09, 2023 10:28 AM (TGPs7)

376 Israel was invaded by people from a place less than 1)2 the size of Manhattan

Posted by: Paul at October 09, 2023 10:30 AM (mZic7)

377 Avi Yemini @OzraeliAvi · 12m
🚨Lebanese border is escalating quickly
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Despite that being only then-12 minutes old, I think that's Avi reporting the attacks from an hour ago that I linked above as I can't find any new attack info on my pro-terrorist tweeters. These look like older photos too:
https://tinyurl.com/2seu4mpw

Black hat @WorldObserver0 15m
The continued slow deployment of IDF units on the borders with Lebanon and the Gaza Strip.

In the frame are Merkava Mk.4M tanks, M113A2 armored personnel carriers and M109A5 155-mm self-propelled guns, which have now acquired embankments thanks to the work of engineering bulldozers.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 09, 2023 10:33 AM (krqg6)

378
Konstantin Kisin
@KonstantinKisin

Let me remind you "sophisticated" Western people of something you don't understand about "primitive" people in the rest of the world.

They're more honest than you. They don't pretend that strength is bad. They crave it. And it's the only language they understand.
Posted by: Mister Ghost

Strong horse

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 09, 2023 10:36 AM (63Dwl)

379 Shut up, fool.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 09, 2023 10:45 AM (aD39U)

380 McCarthy was a Republican. His tactics left a bad taste in Jewish mouths. Probably for the next 100 years.

Posted by: runner at October 09, 2023 08:34 AM (V13WU)
==
Because lots of jews are commies. A strangely high number of them.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 09, 2023 10:54 AM (GZYu7)

381 Greg Price
@greg_price11
Now that there were rallies in multiple different U.S. cities calling for genocide against the Jews, I wonder if the FBI is still of the opinion that "white supremacists" are the biggest terror threat to the homeland.
10:32 AM · Oct 9, 2023

Posted by: L - Only 5 1/2 hrs. by car from his home to East Palestine, OH at October 09, 2023 11:01 AM (GshMh)

382 I don't think Israel has the will to do it either. The only reason Japan and Germany changed their culture is because we forced them to. No Western leader is brave enough to do that now.

And why is Iran allowing the Palis to go all out in such a disgusting rapacious attack? Does this mean Iran has a nuke or close to it and wants a standoff with the West? Of course Biden will be the first to sign the surrender. If he gets his 10%.

Posted by: PJ at October 09, 2023 11:04 AM (G1dq6)

383 Mom's complaining to my nephew about something.
These born again Christians are a PITA.
We had a cat named PITA.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at October 09, 2023 11:26 AM (djEN/)

384 "Nobody caught what was about to happen because of institutional incompetence."

At some point incompetence intersects intention. An analogy would be our Southern border. They are intentionally leaving it open for reasons I think most here know but there is more to it. That intention will eventually lead to attacks in this country. I doubt that is their intention. Their incompetence is not seeing that it is inevitable because there are black swans they have no clue about that their plan is setting us up for.

Posted by: Boyd at October 09, 2023 12:14 PM (d8QHN)

385 Just heard a quick "man on the street" type interview by Trey Yingst who is in southern Isreal. The guy was complaining that Isreali forces are not in control and in disarray. He said that they couldn't get to recover the bodies at the festival. The word "fucking" came over live TV at least twice.

Posted by: buddhaha at October 09, 2023 12:23 PM (ycWzp)

386 I hear all sorts of "let God sort 'em out" comments, but I think a more reasonable, if very difficult, proposal:
Tell everyone in Gaza near the border to get out. Take a one mile wide swath along the border and level it. Bring in the D9s and level it, literally. Flat. Put a low fence on the Gaza side with signs. Then mine the shit out of it. Put up guard sites with .50's and rockets. Station counter-batteries along the border and give them carte-blanche to take out everything within a hundred yards of a mortar or rocket launch point. Prohibit drone use within Gaza. Monitor for drone launches and give them the same treatment.

Posted by: buddhaha at October 09, 2023 12:46 PM (ycWzp)

387 382 I don't think Israel has the will to do it either. The only reason Japan and Germany changed their culture is because we forced them to. No Western leader is brave enough to do that now.

And why is Iran allowing the Palis to go all out in such a disgusting rapacious attack? Does this mean Iran has a nuke or close to it and wants a standoff with the West? Of course Biden will be the first to sign the surrender. If he gets his 10%.
Posted by: PJ at October 09, 2023 11:04 AM (G1dq6)


You have to "De-Islamify" over a billion people all over the world.

That ain't happening.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 09, 2023 01:08 PM (x0n13)

388 Someone should pay Travis Kelce to dump Taylor Swift on the day Israel nukes Hamas and no one in the world will notice or care about the camel jockeys. Problem solved.

Posted by: Joe Rumsey at October 09, 2023 01:55 PM (Tnja3)

389 I literally have no sympathy for whatever Israel has in store for Hamas, Iran or any of the people outside of Israel's borders. They brought it upon themselves. They should reap the bitter whirlwind!

"You tell 'em I'm coming... and hell's coming with me, you hear?!?"

-Kurt Russell as Wyatt Earp in Tombstone

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