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The Morning Report — 10/4/23

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Good morning, kids. Good for Matt Gaetz. He did the absolute right thing in kicking the low-rent poor-man's bargain-basement version of John Boehner, Paul Ryan and Eric Cantor out of the Speakership. Will it make a damn bit of difference to the nation? Probably not, at least in the short term, if at all. Whether it's the majority of the GOP politicians and punditry alike freaking out or the Democrats gloating on that party's disunity, it's all kabuki-bukkake theater anyway. Gaetz's sin is merely exposing it.

Fool's errand? Pissing in the wind? Last stand at Corregidor? You'll have to decide that. But America is no more. It's a banana republic in all but name only and the lying bastards who pretend to be on our side and fight for the Constitution are only there to fight for their seats at the trough; as the remora to the megalodon that is the Democrat Party and it's deep state operatives in the Leviathan.

Here's a prime example of sheer cluelessness that so many display. I give you Stephen Kruiser from the rapidly-decaying PJ Media:

I’ve seen a lot of internecine squabbles in the Republican party in my decades of activism, but that mess yesterday was really something different. The unceremonious end to Kevin McCarthy’s brief tenure as Speaker of the House offered almost nothing to like, unless you’re a fan of drama for drama’s sake.

It should be noted up front that I like everything about what the Freedom Caucus stands for. The members of it are singing my song. Unfortunately, I get the feeling that all they’re ever capable of doing is singing louder. At some point it becomes shrieking rather than singing, distorted well past the point of when the original meaning of the song can be conveyed.

I also don’t think that there are any good guys in this family feud.

McCarthy failed to learn Rule #1: Don’t trust the Democrats. He knew that if he brokered a deal for a temporary funding bill that Matt Gaetz would come after him. McCarthy apparently thought that some of his new Democrat friends from the stopgap resolution would vote to table Gaetz’s motion to vacate.

Oops.

The timing here was unfortunate. Gaetz is an ego-driven blunt object and it’s impossible to figure out if he thought beyond getting this wish of his. Only a Republican could come up with the idea to team with Democrats to punish a Republican for teaming with Democrats. . .

. . . Once more, I am on board with most of what the Freedom Caucus wants. I don’t see how they’re going to get it because of what happened yesterday. There are a lot of people who think some good will come of it. They can’t explain how, but they’re sure of it. I’d wager that most of them are relatively new to conservative politics. Here was something I tweeted yesterday after McCarthy was given the boot:

Look, I like what the Freedom Caucus stands for, but at some point, it needs to learn to be more than just the Tantrum Caucus.

I stand by that. Let’s win some spending wars. Let’s also realize that, as Schlichter points out in his latest VIP at Townhall, the party with the four-seat majority can’t govern like it has a 60-seat majority.

Just think things through, is that too much to ask? Yeah, probably.

Think things through? How about you pull your head out of your ass and take a good look around at what the hell is happening to this nation, the epicenter of which is D.C. Why the fuck do you think there is a Freedom Caucus in the first place, Kruiser? It's because the GOP since the damned Eisenhower administration has done essentially nothing to halt let alone reverse the initial creep towards dissolution of the republic which is now going at or near warp speed, pun intended.

The only thing that Gaetz perhaps can be faulted for is thinking that replacing McCarthy with an actual opposition leader will achieve anything. That is if the GOP allows that to happen. Forget the speaker; you'll have to purge the majority of the party first. And even then, the entire system is so corrupt that even that is mere Titanic deck chair rearranging.

When Democrats are in the majority, they get their way. And when Republicans are in the majority, the Democrats also get their way. Most recently, after the stopgap spending bill was passed, Rep Jamie Raskin took to MSNBC to boast that the Democrats “got the vast majority of what we wanted” from it. And for some Republicans that was the last straw.

Eight House Republicans allied with Democrats on a vote to remove Speaker Kevin McCarthy. And for the first time in over a century, a House Speaker was successfully booted from office.

A civil war among Republicans came down to threats from both sides of collaborating with Democrats in a House of Representatives with a narrow majority. And collaborating with Democrats seems to be the only thing that House Republicans know how to do anymore.

What are the legislative achievements of a House GOP majority, today, yesterday and the day before? They invariably involve collaborating with Democrats for personal political gain.

It’s been over a generation since a House Republican majority delivered for conservatives. Congressional Republicans are too terrified to fight Democrats and instead go after safe targets like each other. It’s not even worth counting how many times a Democrat White House made a House Republican majority cower in fear over the threat of being blamed for a government shutdown. Or how often that same majority compensated for surrendering to Democrats with meaningless virtue signaling votes that everyone knew were never going to pass the Senate. . .

. . . House Republican majorities do very little because they want to avoid taking responsibility for anything. When there is a Republican Senate majority or a Republican White House, they defer to them. And when there isn’t, they defer to the Democrats. The pattern is that the House Republican leadership wants someone else to take on their responsibilities.

Congress increasingly doesn’t legislate, it rubber stamps, and the House GOP leadership has been among the worst offenders. But the situation isn’t likely to improve under any speaker. The GOP leadership has concentrated legislative power in the hands of small men like Rep. Kevin McCarthy and Rep. Paul Ryan who haven’t the faintest idea of what to do with it except to prevent things from being done that might upset the status quo too much. Weak speakers are fall guys whose only job is to last long enough to deliver some stability for special interests. . .

. . . Under Democrats, the speakership was a powerful position, while under Republicans it’s become a thankless job offering power without purpose in a deeply divided party.

And that is the real crisis.

What is the purpose of a GOP House majority? What is it there to accomplish? When all the hysterical fundraising emails, texts and carrier pigeons have been sent, what does it do?

Republicans campaign like insurgents, but they govern like placeholders. All the insurgent energy is completely lacking once the business of cutting 30 second ads gives way to the dry tasks of scheduling the votes that the leadership wants on the money that it wants to give away. . .

. . . A party like that requires strong leaders who know what is at stake: not hollow men and grifters.

The House GOP doesn’t have a speaker because it doesn’t have a mission. And without a mission, it’s only a matter of time until every session falls apart into self-serving drama. Either the House GOP will find its mission or it will continue to waste time that America doesn’t have.

Either Republicans will find their mission or they will lose.

Daniel Greenfield gets it a hell of a lot more than Stephen Kruiser, but in reading the whole essay you get the sense that he too seems to think that we can fight back by traditional means and regular order when that no longer exists.

Case in point, supposedly the junta is scrambling to reassure Zelensky that the funding for the forever war in Ukraine will still be forthcoming, despite the shenanigans in the House. Assuming the growing wave of even a disunited GOP to unite or at least present a clear majority against said funding prevails. Does anyone think that Biden's puppet masters aren't going to flip Congress the bird, and just direct the Treasury to ship pallets of cash to Kiev without even giving it a second thought?

Don't fool yourselves. They're getting that cash and probably boots on the ground, or more boots on the ground because I have a sneaking and horrifying suspicion that Ukraine right now is MACV 1964 all over again.

Speaking of the military as well as the complete corruption of and by the bureaucracy of which it belongs, dig this flashback to only a few short years ago:

During the Trump presidency, Pentagon officials refused to follow orders, substituting their own policies over the constitutionally ordained authority of their Commander in Chief. We know that officials lied about troop strength in Syria, attempted to undermine and kill the peace initiative with the Taliban in Afghanistan, and refused to call out the military to quell civil unrest during the George Floyd riots. This is gross insubordination. . .

. . . The Pentagon’s active obstruction of Trump’s policies and orders amounted to a treasonous coup. There is no value in an American military that will not do what its members have sworn an oath to do and what they are paid to do: To follow the orders of the elected commander-in-chief and protect American lives.

That's just the military, which in and of itself is shocking and bad enough. Now substitute any and every agency, department, bureau and office in D.C. from cabinet member secretaries all the way down to the janitors and toilet attendants. This is the government. This is who calls the shots. The president and Congress are essentially powerless to control it. The latter does not want the actual responsibility of crafting laws since, in theory, whatever they do might piss off an electorate that will vote them out of office for doing their jobs. I say in theory since the integrity of elections is now highly doubtful in the wake of 2020 and 2022. As for the former, a president can wield power only if he's a Democrat-Leftist or a GOP – a Go-along Obsequious Placeholder should he accidentally "win" an election here or there.

So Matt Gaetz is an asshole. Matt Gaetz is a traitor. Matt Gaetz is an egomaniac. Matt Gaetz screwed up the slim majority, and on and on and on.

No GOP. YOU bastards did that. And you've been doing it since forever. You can bitch and moan all day long about Democrats but it's not what they did but what you collectively did not do that got us Trump, and now Gaetz. Will the latter lead to anything substantive? Doubtful, yet it is a moral victory.

But I am sick to fucking death of moral victories.

    ABOVE THE FOLD, BREAKING, NOTEWORTHY

  • "Whether in overseas matters or domestically, it is very clear that the Pentagon felt no constitutional loyalty to one particular Commander-in-Chief."
    The Pentagon’s Lack of Loyalty to President Trump
  • "The American military adventure in Somalia is a prime example of what goes wrong when there’s no check on presidential war powers."
    Folly and Redemption: 30 Years After Black Hawk Down
  • "Surely, our political nomenklatura is too obtuse, uneducated, and unobservant to presume to lead an advanced G-20 nation. Some are liars from the egg. Some are sanctimonious prigs in love with their own inflated identities. Some are invertebrate virtue signalers. Most are merely very ordinary people incapable of escaping the trap of presentism — Russia, Russia, Russia — and clearly unused to the habit of thinking or noticing what is immediately plain to see. Zelenskyy is a confidence man. Hunka was engaged in fighting our military allies. Such is the mindset of our parliamentary notables and ministers. These are our lawgivers and decision-makers. God help us all."
    Saluting a Nazi
  • Betsy McCaughey:"Biden’s censorship and the fight he’s waging to continue muzzling the public — the U.S. Constitution be damned — show he’s no champion of democracy. The judges of the Fifth Circuit didn’t believe it. And you shouldn’t either."
    A Haunting Glimpse Inside a Censoring Regime

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1 https://bit.ly/Perspectiv3 on climate.

Posted by: Marooned at October 04, 2023 07:40 AM (kt8QE)

2 Thank you, JJ

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 04, 2023 07:40 AM (1n+EO)

3 Its Hump Day

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 07:41 AM (BRHaw)

4 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at October 04, 2023 07:42 AM (sNtYB)

5 Its Hump Day
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 07:41 AM (BRHaw)

On your marks....

Posted by: JT at October 04, 2023 07:42 AM (T4tVD)

6 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 04, 2023 07:43 AM (T4tVD)

7 Good Morning.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 04, 2023 07:43 AM (iupH6)

8 Tucker for Speaker

Posted by: Suca Tawdry at October 04, 2023 07:43 AM (Tnja3)

9 Good morning again dear morons and happy birthday JJ

I hear people impugning Gaetz' motivations as "personal" or "hateful." Those people think like a girl in middle school.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 04, 2023 07:43 AM (RIvkX)

10 Good morning horde!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 04, 2023 07:44 AM (z99Zw)

11 Yonder Horde

PSA... "Overnight Amazon Delivery" means someone in an unmarked car might deliver your package at 0 - dark thirty.

The driver hates it when you greet them with a Remington 870.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 04, 2023 07:44 AM (Q4IgG)

12 Good morning JJ and horde

Posted by: Skip at October 04, 2023 07:45 AM (1J+Um)

13 ... as the remora to the megalodon that is the Democrat Party and it's deep state operatives in the Leviathan.

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MAGA le Don > Megalodon

[Love you J.J. -- no homo -- and thank you for your week-daily rants, humor, and linkfest!]

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at October 04, 2023 07:46 AM (2O5Io)

14
Senior Pentagon Official Charged for Involvement in Dogfighting Ring – Electrocuted Losers to Death"

Turnabout is fair play, right?

Posted by: fd at October 04, 2023 07:46 AM (vFG9F)

15 The GOPe must be destroyed example 22578

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 07:47 AM (xVkS/)

16 ". . . House Republican majorities do very little because they want to avoid taking responsibility for anything. When there is a Republican Senate majority or a Republican White House, they defer to them."

LOL (spit)
like they did for PDT, right? when "we" held all 3 branches of the gummint?
(spit)

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at October 04, 2023 07:49 AM (YNbPJ)

17 Think things through? How about you pull your head out of your ass and take a good look around at what the hell is happening to this nation, the epicenter of which is D.C. Why the fuck do you think there is a Freedom Caucus in the first place, Kruiser?

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It was interesting listening to the radio shows of Bongino and Gorka yesterday.

Bongino was wailing that "there is no plan and we're gonna end up worse than we are (as if that's f*cking possible)" ... and Gorka was "sometimes you just need a good cleansing for cleansing & principle's sake (McCarthy failed to live up to his promises), regardless of the eventual outcome."

Yeah, put me down with the latter ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at October 04, 2023 07:49 AM (2O5Io)

18 Trump for Prez
Gartz for Speaker
Rand Paul for Majority leader.

Maybe. Maybe shit would get rekt.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 07:49 AM (xVkS/)

19 Gartz is probably better than Gaetz. More metal.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 07:50 AM (xVkS/)

20
g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 04, 2023 07:51 AM (ENBF0)

21 17 and Gorka was "sometimes you just need a good cleansing for cleansing & principle's sake (McCarthy failed to live up to his promises), regardless of the eventual outcome."

Yeah, put me down with the latter ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at October 04, 2023 07:49 AM (2O5Io)


"Get rid of the bad blood."

- - Pete Clemenza in the basement with Michael

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 07:51 AM (x0n13)

22
Hack-in-Black Judge Hits Trump With Gag Order

Q: What do you call the person who graduated last in their med school class?
A: Doctor

Q: What do you call the person who graduated last in their law school class?
A: Your Honor

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2023 07:52 AM (MoZTd)

23 I stand by that. Let’s win some spending wars. Let’s also realize that, as Schlichter points out in his latest VIP at Townhall, the party with the four-seat majority can’t govern like it has a 60-seat majority.

And if the GOP had a 60 seat majority, they'd complain that they needed a 100 seat majority to do anything. Or they'd just give it away as they did their last large House majority.

Schlichter and the rest of the Townhall rubes are purposely naive. Nothing more.

Posted by: Spoiler Alert at October 04, 2023 07:52 AM (0nfs8)

24 Cudos to the Freedom Caucus for sticking together and doing what is right against the crime lords.

Posted by: davidt at October 04, 2023 07:52 AM (SYTee)

25 33 trillion dollars in debt. What did we get for all that federal money?

Endless wars we are never allowed to win and flag officers openly disobeying the President and profiting from it and laughing about it.
Illegal invaders on every street corner taking jobs and living spaces from American citizens.
Racial hate at the highest levels being stoked by democrats for fun and profit.
Sodomites running amok in the government skools and in society forcing everyone to accept the caak or at least just take a sip or attend "weddings" against one's will.
Cities aflame with rock n roll and becoming unlivable.

Posted by: Matt Gaetz, American Hero at October 04, 2023 07:53 AM (0lY6Y)

26 The only thing that Gaetz perhaps can be faulted for is thinking that replacing McCarthy with an actual opposition leader will achieve anything. That is if the GOP allows that to happen.

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[To reprise my comment from the previous Pixy thread:]

They need to make Trump the Speaker of The House.

An impeachment every week is all we ask!

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at October 04, 2023 07:54 AM (2O5Io)

27 How many chances are we supposed to give Republican leadership after they cheat on us?

There hasn't been a better game theory algorithm developed than tit for tat. You give someone a chance and as soon as they screw you over, that's it. Anything else and all you're doing is signaling that you will allow yourself to be walked on.

McCarthy struck a deal with the Dems on the debt sealing and got nothing for us. I don't see why I should stick by him after that. I *want* our reps to be afraid of us. They need to be more concerned about losing their positions because they didn't do enough for us than they are about losing their invites to cocktail parties. Otherwise, we aren't the base, we're their stooges.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at October 04, 2023 07:54 AM (fKIdX)

28 At least with no Speaker, the House can't vote on anything. Good. The panic by the establishment is very satisfying.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 04, 2023 07:54 AM (YRsIm)

29 "But I am sick to fucking death of moral victories."
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You want actual victories but you'll accept moral victories and learn to like it.
~~The Uniparty

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 07:54 AM (ZCPyW)

30 The New York Times depicts the legal battle against Biden’s censorship as a challenge to “the government’s ability to combat false and misleading narratives about the pandemic, voting rights and other issues that spread on social media.”

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 07:55 AM (BRHaw)

31
No Speaker?

No business?

No paycheck!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2023 07:55 AM (MoZTd)

32 I will subscribe to Patrick McHenry's newsletter if Pelosi comes back to find all her stuff in the hallway.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 04, 2023 07:55 AM (PiwSw)

33 Mornin' Mo-rons!

Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 04, 2023 07:55 AM (k6uu5)

34 Assuming the growing wave of even a disunited GOP to unite or at least present a clear majority against said funding prevails. Does anyone think that Biden's puppet masters aren't going to flip Congress the bird, and just direct the Treasury to ship pallets of cash to Kiev without even giving it a second thought?

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Exactly.

As I've been saying since 2020: WHO is gonna stop them?

/rhetorical

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at October 04, 2023 07:55 AM (2O5Io)

35 Least we forget that McCarthy was part of the cabal that tanked a number of GOP candidates during the midterms because (in McConnell's own words) they were of "questionable quality."

The House Speaker nominally holds the purse strings for reelection efforts in that chamber.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 04, 2023 07:57 AM (Q4IgG)

36
Nationwide emergency alert test today to annoy everyone with a cellphone, tv, or radio. Two o'clockish. 2:20 pm apparently.

Begin conspiracy theory.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 04, 2023 07:57 AM (enJYY)

37 32 I will subscribe to Patrick McHenry's newsletter if Pelosi comes back to find all her stuff in the hallway.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 04, 2023 07:55 AM (PiwSw)


Yard sale on the Great Lawn.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 07:57 AM (x0n13)

38 I would be nice to see the senate grow some spine and pitch McConnel as minority leader too.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 04, 2023 07:57 AM (YRsIm)

39 I will subscribe to Patrick McHenry's newsletter if Pelosi comes back to find all her stuff in the hallway.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 04, 2023 07:55 AM (PiwSw)

Piled at the curb like any other eviction.

Let the street bums pick thru it before it's hauled off to the dump.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 04, 2023 07:57 AM (0lY6Y)

40 also reprised from Pixy thread"
"210 "205 "They need to make Trump the Speaker of The House."

Santa, please bring me this for Christmas and I will never ask for a Christmas present again.

Posted by: fd "

same here!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez"

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at October 04, 2023 07:57 AM (YNbPJ)

41 I'm curious about how many visits McCarthy made to Pelosi's hideaway office.

Posted by: davidt at October 04, 2023 07:57 AM (SYTee)

42 At least McCarthy was able to strike a deal on the debt sealing. I hate it when the debt leaks.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 04, 2023 07:58 AM (NBVIP)

43 How many chances are we supposed to give Republican leadership after they cheat on us?

Democrats are the abusive husband. Republicans are the enabling wife. We're the kids. The wife always bitches at the kids because she knows better than to run her mouth to the husband.

Posted by: Spoiler Alert at October 04, 2023 07:58 AM (0nfs8)

44 Weiss misleadingly claimed he had “been granted ultimate authority over” the Hunter Biden investigation. The DOJ’s disregard of its own policy provides further proof that both Garland and Weiss intended to obfuscate the reality that Weiss never held the reins of the Hunter Biden investigation.

Lets just drop the entire thing and get on with our lives. It was and is a cover up.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 07:58 AM (BRHaw)

45 My son's long abandoned cat jumped on my face and woke me up at dawn.

And so starts the day.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 04, 2023 07:58 AM (aD39U)

46 Bye, Felicia Mrs. Luntz!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 04, 2023 07:59 AM (RIvkX)

47 I have a sneaking and horrifying suspicion that Ukraine right now is MACV 1964 all over again.

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Oops, link fail, J.J.

This is what you want: https://is.gd/DyxQfd

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at October 04, 2023 07:59 AM (2O5Io)

48 Brother JJ, I am in COMPLETE unison with you here, especially on the dying PJMedia camp.

Took 67 seats in 2010 and they told us we needed the Senate. 2014 we gave them the Senate. They did nothing.

"We need the two GA senators to 'hold the line' in 2021" and then 13 and then 19 'republican' senators voted for more debt. Then last year FOURTEEN

Posted by: Danimal28 at October 04, 2023 07:59 AM (klw0w)

49
I will subscribe to Patrick McHenry's newsletter if Pelosi comes back to find all her stuff in the hallway.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 04, 2023 07:55 AM (PiwSw)


Even better, in some storage unit months behind in the rent.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 04, 2023 07:59 AM (enJYY)

50 Maybe if I start to choke the old man he'll make with the food.

Posted by: Grump's son's kitteh at October 04, 2023 08:00 AM (RIvkX)

51 FOURTEEN senators voted to infringe your 2A rights...

Something needs to happen and it did.

Posted by: Danimal28 at October 04, 2023 08:00 AM (klw0w)

52
The fundamental problem is that our budget/appropriations/spending process is hopelessly broken. When was the last time we actually passed a budget and then appropriations bills for each department?

The amount of money sloshing around without direction and without oversight is astounding. How long can this go on?

I know the Democrats don't care. They think all money belongs to the government and if there's not enough then more will be extorted from the subjects; thus the 87,000 new IRS agents.

You'd like to think that the Republicans would care. But they either don't or are too scared or too lazy to perform the central purpose of their branch of government.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2023 08:00 AM (MoZTd)

53 During the Trump presidency, Pentagon officials refused to follow orders, substituting their own policies over the constitutionally ordained authority of their Commander in Chief.

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None dare call it treason!

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at October 04, 2023 08:00 AM (2O5Io)

54 I didn't have an opinion of the McCarthy dustup until I saw how the reactions played out and who was upset. Now I think it must be a good thing.

Posted by: Ordinary American at October 04, 2023 08:01 AM (4gD3D)

55 Mark Levin has lost his mind dishing on Gaetz.

I'm really sorry McCarthy couldn't be bothered to release the J6 tapes. Or stop the spending orgy. Etc.

The outcome is still in doubt. We need better pols. My guy LaMalfa talks a good game at election season but reverts to Uniparty right after. We can't primary him because it's a money issue. Incumbents get watered.

And we will not try on a damned Democrat to get him out.

These squish Republicans have to know what damage they're doing. Perhaps we can get Tucker to interview some. Get them to explain how Ukraine is out problem instead of Europe's. Explain the spending. Explain why Civil War Confederates got pardoned but J6'ers got 25 years. Explain why Congresscritters generally ignore the Trump persecution and railroading.

There's going to be a reckoning. There has to be something to break the fever.

Posted by: torabora at October 04, 2023 08:01 AM (j8YvX)

56 1/3 of the colonies chose to fight, 1/3 were ambivalent, and 1/3 sided with King George. It is the same today.

Posted by: Danimal28 at October 04, 2023 08:01 AM (klw0w)

57
Even better, in some storage unit months behind in the rent.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 04, 2023 07:59 AM (enJYY)


On the one hand, I'd like to bid on that storage unit. On the other, who wants 30,000 empty wine bottles?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2023 08:01 AM (MoZTd)

58 "Case in point, supposedly the junta is scrambling to reassure Zelensky that the funding for the forever war in Ukraine will still be forthcoming, despite the shenanigans in the House. "


Even if you support this idiotic war, you have to admit we are broke and headed toward a disaster and can't afford this shit anymore. Let Zelensky go beg the European Union or the WEF or the NGO's that want it funded. Then we'll then find out how much they really love and admire the Ukrainians.

Posted by: Ripley at October 04, 2023 08:02 AM (JojsZ)

59 Ousting McCarthy, I hope, is a message that voters have zero f--ks left to give

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 04, 2023 08:02 AM (vHIgi)

60 I will subscribe to Patrick McHenry's newsletter if Pelosi comes back to find all her stuff in the hallway.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 04, 2023 07:55 AM (PiwSw)
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I'll second that if she finds all of her stuff in the dumpster out back.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 04, 2023 08:02 AM (YIVH2)

61 I’ve seen a lot of internecine squabbles in the Republican party in my decades of activism, but that mess yesterday was really something different. The unceremonious end to Kevin McCarthy’s brief tenure as Speaker of the House offered almost nothing to like, unless you’re a fan of drama for drama’s sake.
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I'm a fan of consequences for violating agreements that result in tremendous transfers of power.

McCarthy didn't do what he promised, and he's out on his ass.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:02 AM (t0OGg)

62 McCarthy failed to learn Rule #1: Don’t trust the Democrats. He knew that if he brokered a deal for a temporary funding bill that Matt Gaetz would come after him. McCarthy apparently thought that some of his new Democrat friends from the stopgap resolution would vote to table Gaetz’s motion to vacate.
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LOL. If this is the case, he's stupider than he let on.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:03 AM (t0OGg)

63 Mark Levin has lost his mind dishing on Gaetz.

Eventually enough people will see through Mark Levin's gimmick. He's a former insider, I'm sure with ambitions of getting back in the game again someday. He's another old school Republican, more concerned with preserving order than anything else.

Posted by: Spoiler Alert at October 04, 2023 08:03 AM (0nfs8)

64 Canada's Parliament and PM giving the Waffen SS a standing ovation and then pushing out mealy-mouthed apologies is still a story, even though the Libs think they have smothered it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 08:04 AM (QJHy9)

65 The desperation around funding Ukraine without limit and without end along with the nearly complete disregard for own border and unraveling society is nothing less than psychotic.

Posted by: Ordinary American at October 04, 2023 08:04 AM (4gD3D)

66 What the GOPe whiners and losers fail to understand is that the House with the proper leadership has tremendous leverage. Just refuse to fund the government; let it shut down. Make bold demands (like Garland’s and Wray’s resignations) to pass funding. Demonstrate that congress is in charge, not the unelected 4th branch. Kev was not that guy. Good for Gaetz.

Speaking of which, everyone has their doppelgänger and it dawned on me last night that Gaetz resembles a young Billy Graham. What do ya think?

https://tinyurl.com/4j2zz74a

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 04, 2023 08:04 AM (m6dV4)

67 Begin conspiracy theory.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

Fake alien ufo invasion prep

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 04, 2023 08:05 AM (vHIgi)

68 Anyway, good for Gaetz for that power flex

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 04, 2023 08:06 AM (vHIgi)

69 " The Sun does what the Sun wants to do, and since we don’t understand why it does it, predicting what it will do next is usually a mostly fruitless effort."

The only solution then is to block it out so the harmful rays cannot warm the planet.

Posted by: fd at October 04, 2023 08:06 AM (vFG9F)

70 At the end of the day, Kevin McCarthy is no longer speaker because he didn't honor his promises and Matt Gaetz made good on his word.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 04, 2023 08:07 AM (4VB//)

71 The only solution then is to block it out so the harmful rays cannot warm the planet.
Posted by: fd at October 04, 2023 08:06 AM (vFG9F)
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Don't worry--we're on it!

Posted by: Bill Gates and C. Montgomery Burns at October 04, 2023 08:07 AM (YIVH2)

72 This is the government. This is who calls the shots. The president and Congress are essentially powerless to control it. The latter does not want the actual responsibility of crafting laws since, in theory, whatever they do might piss off an electorate that will vote them out of office for doing their jobs.

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The Legislative Branch has effectively dissolved itself.

. The post-Constitutional Executive Brach now MAKES "THE LAWS" via Executive Orders and the 4th (unaccountable) Branch of Bureaucrats, and

. The post-Constitutional SCOTUS now ENFORCES "THE LAWS" (like wiping their asses with the Constitution when Texas and 19 other states challenged the 2020 Steal by claiming U.S. States has "No Standing").

* spit *

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at October 04, 2023 08:07 AM (2O5Io)

73 Pope "Fiction" Francis Opens Door To Catholics Blessing Gay Relationships

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I recently finished a book called Antichrist by the late Fr. Vincent Miceli. The book was written in '81, I believe. In one chapter, he discusses the coming dark signs he saw within the Catholic Church. Namely, his attendance to a late 1970s Catholic convention and the infiltration of communist ideology (which he rightly attributes as coming from Satan) within the upper ranks of the church, and the complete dereliction of duty in moving away from the saving of souls to leftist dogma. I can only imagine what he'd think today.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 04, 2023 08:07 AM (mupln)

74
After months of drought, yesterday we had torrential rain. A large pond formed in the back yard. Today it is gone.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2023 08:07 AM (MoZTd)

75 " Mark Levin has lost his mind dishing on Gaetz."

Good. He's part of the problem. He yells a lot and doesn't do squit.

Posted by: fd at October 04, 2023 08:08 AM (vFG9F)

76 McCarthy didn't do what he promised, and he's out on his ass.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:02 AM (t0OGg)
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Funny, that's how the rest of us little people live.

Posted by: Grump's son's kitteh at October 04, 2023 08:08 AM (RIvkX)

77 After yesterday's beat down, I am expecting a dead cat bounce in the markets first thing this morning. Pre-market started to but now is wavering.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 04, 2023 08:08 AM (aD39U)

78 /feline sock off

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 04, 2023 08:08 AM (RIvkX)

79 So Matt Gaetz is an asshole. Matt Gaetz is a traitor. Matt Gaetz is an egomaniac. Matt Gaetz screwed up the slim majority, and on and on and on.

No GOP. YOU bastards did that.

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[Blast from the Past:] THIS is how you got Trump in the first place.

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at October 04, 2023 08:09 AM (2O5Io)

80 Speaking of Pelosi's "hideaway" office...

I seem to recall that McCarthy left her shit in the House speaker's office as well. Maybe the "office" in question is one and the same... I dunno. But it is telling that there was no effort to toss Pelosi's shit after McCarthy assumed the speakership.

Like they expected her to return ASAP.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 04, 2023 08:09 AM (Q4IgG)

81 The only thing that Gaetz perhaps can be faulted for is thinking that replacing McCarthy with an actual opposition leader will achieve anything.
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I have no idea if Gaetz actually thinks that. If he does, he is a fool. But punishing McCarthy is not a bad thing on its own. He failed to deliver, and was removed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:09 AM (t0OGg)

82 Good. He's part of the problem. He yells a lot and doesn't do squit.

Posted by: fd at October 04, 2023 08:08 AM (vFG9F)


Not true. He sells books.

Posted by: Spoiler Alert at October 04, 2023 08:09 AM (0nfs8)

83 Good morning, J.J.
Good morning, Horde.

"No GOP. YOU bastards did that. And you've been doing it since forever. You can bitch and moan all day long about Democrats but it's not what they did but what you collectively did not do that got us Trump, and now Gaetz. Will the latter lead to anything substantive? Doubtful, yet it is a moral victory.

But I am sick to fucking death of moral victories."

This ^

Posted by: Inogame at October 04, 2023 08:09 AM (53oGX)

84 Morning all

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2023 08:10 AM (aqRb8)

85 The Pentagon’s active obstruction of Trump’s policies and orders amounted to a treasonous coup. There is no value in an American military that will not do what its members have sworn an oath to do and what they are paid to do: To follow the orders of the elected commander-in-chief and protect American lives.
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Yes indeed. The entirety of Trump's administration was the slow-motion unfolding of a coup.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:10 AM (t0OGg)

86 I'm going to hold off on making any judgment until I find out what Rob Reiner thinks.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 04, 2023 08:10 AM (PiwSw)

87 New York City Judge Arthur Engoron ruled that Trump had committed fraud for overvaluing his Mar-a-Lago estate. Engoron ruled the property was only worth $18 million, even though real estate experts say it’s worth $300 million.

$57,850,000
1620 S Ocean Blvd, Palm Beach, FL 33480

More like a billion .

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:10 AM (BRHaw)

88 >> … and the complete dereliction of duty in moving away from the saving of souls to leftist dogma. I can only imagine what he'd think today.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 04, 2023 08:07 AM (mupln)

That’s been happening in Protestant Christianity over the past 40+ years, too. Take over, hollow out, skin suits, wear…. Some assembly instructions required

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 04, 2023 08:10 AM (m6dV4)

89 But I am sick to fucking death of moral victories.

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Indeed, my friend. Of what value are moral victories in an amoral (nee immoral) society?

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at October 04, 2023 08:10 AM (2O5Io)

90 TODAY’S WEATHER FORECAST
10/4
86°Hi
RealFeel® 93°
Breezy with a gusty t-storm

WTF does that mean??

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:11 AM (BRHaw)

91 I'm going to hold off on making any judgment until I find out what Rob Reiner thinks.

In all fairness, he did advise Leonardo DiCaprio to take a plea deal with the SEC. Leonardo didn't listen.

Posted by: Spoiler Alert at October 04, 2023 08:12 AM (0nfs8)

92 How to Disrupt a Black Conservative Event With This One Weird Trick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgRE6BPhN2I

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:13 AM (BRHaw)

93 Eventually enough people will see through Mark Levin's gimmick. He's a former insider, I'm sure with ambitions of getting back in the game again someday. He's another old school Republican, more concerned with preserving order than anything else.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at October 04, 2023 08:03 AM (0nfs

Concur. He is a irritating little man with a girly voice who adds nothing and accomplishes nothing.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 04, 2023 08:13 AM (0lY6Y)

94 Reporter: You're suggesting that these women at these abortion rallies are ugly and overweight?
Gaetz: Yes.
Reporter: What do you say to people who think those comments are offensive?
Gaetz: Be offended.

One of the best exchanges with the media I've seen in years.

Posted by: Ordinary American at October 04, 2023 08:14 AM (4gD3D)

95 Seeing the reports of who is upset that McCarthy got kicked out tells me it was the right move.

And kicking Nancy out of her office with one-day notice while she is in CA to see the planting of a rotten scumbag?
Savage. Fucj the Dems.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 04, 2023 08:15 AM (/mEjB)

96 I recently finished a book called Antichrist by the late Fr. Vincent Miceli. The book was written in '81, I believe. In one chapter, he discusses the coming dark signs he saw within the Catholic Church. Namely, his attendance to a late 1970s Catholic convention and the infiltration of communist ideology (which he rightly attributes as coming from Satan) within the upper ranks of the church, and the complete dereliction of duty in moving away from the saving of souls to leftist dogma. I can only imagine what he'd think today.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 04, 2023 08:07 AM (mupln)

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* "The Devil and Karl Marx: Communism's Long March of Death, Deception, and Infiltration" by Paul Kengor has entered the chat *

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at October 04, 2023 08:15 AM (2O5Io)

97 Posted by: Spoiler Alert at October 04, 2023 08:03 AM (0nfs
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Levin was an insider Republican forty years ago, so "former" hardly begins to describe it. With all his diatribes against the swampy insiders I find it hard to believe many national GOP figures take him to heart.

I question everyone's motives at this point, including Gaetz', and I look only at results. Joining Democrats to dump Mrs. Luntz doesn't buy Gaetz many credit points in that book, so what comes next is important. If the House GOP caucus becomes more unified and more on-mission going forward, good. If not, bad. Levin might be right or he might be wrong. We will see.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 08:15 AM (ZHG8S)

98 $33 Trillion in debt! The dollar is losing value. The BRICS nation are turning away from the dollar. Bankruptcy can come at us very fast.

But in Washington, the band plays on.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at October 04, 2023 08:15 AM (OQN3I)

99
As JJ says, the R's ,and the House 'R's" in particular, lack any sense of mission or policy achievement that matters to their base.
Trump as Speaker would give the House R's purpose, energy, and may be even a few results that could help beat the margin of fraud in the 2024 elections.
Yes, the majority of the current house 'R's" sure as hell don't want to DO anything but grift. But that grift is going to be cut short if they can't energize their base to vote for them .
Trump can do that for them by energizing the base to vote R.

Posted by: Voter theater. at October 04, 2023 08:16 AM (OcxYp)

100 A couple of suggestions FWIW for the next GOP Speaker: *Re-assign democratic committee members just like Pelosi did with the J6 committee.
* Release all J6 video, along with whatever remaining records and testimony have not been destroyed.
* Close all 'hidden offices'
* EVERY vote from here on out would be a roll call vote.
* There will be no more closed door hearings.
* There will be no vote for spending for Z until the government is fully funded with a defined budget for each department for a period of at least 2 years.
* Nothing that the senate sends over as a 'budget' will be considered. It is the responsibility of the House to originate all spending bills.
*The guy pulling the fire alarm will be referred for prosecution under the same statutes that the J6 folks were prosecuted under and held without bail or access to an attorney.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 04, 2023 08:16 AM (YRsIm)

101 I remember the good old days where if you fucked up your job you got fired. What's with the hand wringing? Oh.. the worn out this makes the repub party look disorganized and in disarray excuse? lmao.. I think that shipped sailed a long time ago. I'm glad he's gone. Next.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at October 04, 2023 08:17 AM (iF0sF)

102 Mark Levin has lost his mind dishing on Gaetz.

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This really is disappointing. I have no firm opinion on Gaetz as a person, but what he did needed to be done. McCarthy did it to himself by being completely inept at keeping his promises. The entire GOPe structure is a flimsy mirage of "representation," and we all know it. The '22 elections proved how flimsy they are. They've wasted every opportunity to do what the voters want, what they were elected to do. If we don't start pulling our own Fire Alarm handles down on this bull**** party, nothing will ever change. They suck. I personally am sick of them all. Sick to death of their lying, their spinelessness, their meek and meager ability to do anything, anything at all, to help the American people.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 04, 2023 08:17 AM (mupln)

103 $33 Trillion in debt! The dollar is losing value. The BRICS nation are turning away from the dollar. Bankruptcy can come at us very fast.

But in Washington, the band plays on.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at October 04, 2023 08:15 AM (OQN3I)
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And none of that will change. The band will play on until absolutely *can't* play on anymore.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:18 AM (t0OGg)

104 So much goodness in this morning's rant! Excellent

It is funny to watch the GOP mean girls and their palz in the press brand Gaetz as an outcast, traitor, etc. Next up, they seize his property and charge him with crimes. Just like their Regime bosses tell them

And jj gets it right, its the Regime war mongers who are behind it all. Anything to keep the money flowing to the war machine and the current imperial project in Ukraine

Posted by: Ex GOP at October 04, 2023 08:18 AM (qS8WV)

105 The entire GOPe structure is a flimsy mirage of "representation," and we all know it.

To me, the situation seems very, very simple. The GOP has demonstrated it will not oppose the DNC in any meaningful way. Also, the GOP has demonstrated that it will purposely lose elections rather than lose control of the party.

Hence, the GOP must die. I'm for anything that weakens the party to that end.

Posted by: Spoiler Alert at October 04, 2023 08:19 AM (0nfs8)

106 Every time an unabashed fighter emerges on the Right -- Atwater, Gingrich, Palin, Trump -- a good portion of Republicans freak out. Not so the Left -- they love their fighters, who are invariably filthy.

Posted by: Ordinary American at October 04, 2023 08:20 AM (4gD3D)

107 I'm a realist. I understand that my political beliefs are so far to the right that I'll never see the vast majority of what I want for our country actually implemented. Elimination of the income tax, spending caps, universal constitutional carry, NFA repeal, dissolution of nearly every alphabet soup agency in DC, etc etc... it won't all happen. We live in a representative republic - not a kingdom. The GOP, despite all of its stench - is my best chance to keep the opposing agenda from being implemented. When things like this happen - it's only going to result in the Democrats' agenda being moved forwards - not mine.
Do we form a third party? That way leads to the United Socialist States of America.

Posted by: Defenestratus at October 04, 2023 08:20 AM (HsIgq)

108 55 Posted by: torabora at October 04, 2023 08:01 AM (j8YvX)

I don't think we need better pols. We need a different system entirely. And that will only come with a revolution. Or a counter-revolution given who runs the show.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 08:20 AM (x0n13)

109 During the debate on the resolution to remove McCarthy, Gaetz had to speak from the Democrat side of the chamber because allies of McCarthy blocked the Republican microphones on the House floor.

Yep, Gaetz is the problem.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 04, 2023 08:21 AM (z99Zw)

110 Mornin’, All.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 08:21 AM (xTRSc)

111 I would not even call the lack of loyalty by our Pentagon leaders, lack of Loyalty.

Perhaps a failure to live up to their oath might be more accurate.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 04, 2023 08:22 AM (1n+EO)

112 More like a billion .
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:10 AM (BRHaw)
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This would be my guess too, having seen its size and location.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 08:22 AM (kFCpM)

113 "The band will play on until absolutely *can't* play on anymore.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) "

glub glub

Posted by: The Titanic Orchestra at October 04, 2023 08:23 AM (vFG9F)

114 ... The GOP, despite all of its stench - is my best chance to keep the opposing agenda from being implemented. When things like this happen - it's only going to result in the Democrats' agenda being moved forwards - not mine. ...
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 04, 2023 08:20 AM (HsIgq)
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When things like this do not happen, the only result is the Democrats' agenda being moved forward - not yours.

There is something to be said for personal accountability. McCarthy violated the agreement that got him the gavel, and the gavel was taken away as a result.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:24 AM (t0OGg)

115 Do we form a third party? That way leads to the United Socialist States of America.

We're on the road there now. That's the problem. Those like you who still support the GOP are so damn scared of what will happen without them that you're ignoring what's happening with them.

Posted by: Spoiler Alert at October 04, 2023 08:24 AM (0nfs8)

116 We live in a representative republic - not a kingdom. ...
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 04, 2023 08:20 AM (HsIgq)
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The main point being the government or the president was never intended to have such outsize influence and power.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 04, 2023 08:24 AM (RIvkX)

117 So we now consider Judges to be experts in the valuation of property not in their State?

Interesting take...let's see how that works in the long run.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 04, 2023 08:24 AM (1n+EO)

118 If a revolution is what someone wants to save the country, they will need a leader or two to lead the revolution. Consider history: any credible revolutionary leader has always suffered real consequences for their acts, and paid a real world price while starting and conducting the revolution. Do we have anyone who currently fits this definition?? To simply play act being a leader has too often been the case.

Posted by: tubal at October 04, 2023 08:24 AM (PCK5/)

119 More like a billion .
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:10 AM (BRHaw)
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This would be my guess too, having seen its size and location.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 08:22 AM (kFCpM)
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Seems to me the value of the property is entirely dependent on Trump's willingness to sell it, someone's willingness to buy it, and whatever price they can mutually agree upon. If he sold it for $1, would that be fraudulent?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 04, 2023 08:25 AM (YIVH2)

120 What do Massachusetts and Tennessee have in common? These two unique states each have a current population of 7 million people. Then there’s Arizona, which is slightly larger, with 7.3 million, while Ohio is just a bit smaller, with 6.8 million population.

Keep those state populations in mind every time you hear or read that, since January 2021, the Democrat Biden politburo has allowed seven-million-plus illegal aliens to enter the United States of America.

7,000,000 we counted!!!

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:25 AM (BRHaw)

121 There is no value in an American military that will not do what its members have sworn an oath to do and what they are paid to do: To follow the orders of the elected commander-in-chief and protect American lives.

^ This is where I am. I don't care if the USM gets another dime. It is not protecting the border, and will not if ordered to do so. Shut it down. Let them all get productive jobs.

Posted by: Ex GOP at October 04, 2023 08:25 AM (qS8WV)

122 106 - I wouldn't really consider Gingrich a unabashed fighter on the right.

Posted by: Jaimo at October 04, 2023 08:25 AM (DBrN4)

123 I would not even call the lack of loyalty by our Pentagon leaders, lack of Loyalty.

Perhaps a failure to live up to their oath might be more accurate.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 04, 2023 08:22 AM (1n+EO)
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It shocked the hell out of me, as a "Houston, we have a problem" moment. Still does. Milley should be in Leavenworth, at a minimum. But, then again, so should Jake Sullivan. Robert Malley should be preparing for Old Sparky.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 08:25 AM (kFCpM)

124 Today is The Feast Day of St. Francis of Assisi.🐕‍🦺🐈🦜

Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2023 08:25 AM (NpAcC)

125 That's just the military, and that is shocking and bad enough. Now substitute any and every agency, department, bureau and office in D.C. from cabinet member secretaries all the way down to the janitors and toilet attendants. This is the government. This is who calls the shots. The president and Congress are essentially powerless to control it.


THIS!!! A million times THIS!!! It's why National elections don't matter. Concentrate on local and state.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 04, 2023 08:25 AM (VTm8j)

126 glub glub
Posted by: The Titanic Orchestra at October 04, 2023 08:23 AM (vFG9F)
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Yeah, except that when *you* did it, it was an act of bravery and dedication in the face of certain destruction. For our government, it's merely a manic commitment to continuing a game of musical chairs while the room is on fire and there unobstructed exits (albeit exits that lead to a bad part of town).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:26 AM (t0OGg)

127 117 So we now consider Judges to be experts in the valuation of property not in their State?

Interesting take...let's see how that works in the long run.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 04, 2023 08:24 AM (1n+EO)

Now do someones life!!

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:26 AM (BRHaw)

128 Look, I like what the Freedom Caucus stands for, but at some point, it needs to learn to be more than just the Tantrum Caucus.

I stand by that. Let’s win some spending wars. Let’s also realize that, as Schlichter points out in his latest VIP at Townhall, the party with the four-seat majority can’t govern like it has a 60-seat majority.
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1) Cruiser is a NeverTrump loser despite his top billing as conservative at Insty. There is the real Tantrum Caucus-- it's NeverTrump
2) spending wars? Jim Mora ranting "Playoffs!?" can't convey 1/10 of my disgust at pretending they're going to cut spending.
3) Democrats could have a 1 seat majority and they still rule like they have 50 seat advantage. Because it's not about building coalitions-- it's about leading and delivering for your base. Something Republicans absolutely are genetically incapable of doing.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 04, 2023 08:26 AM (/mEjB)

129 There is something to be said for personal accountability. McCarthy violated the agreement that got him the gavel, and the gavel was taken away as a result.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:24 AM (t0OGg)

Oh I completely agree. His refusal to return to normal order on spending bills was the cause of this.

The result - however - will be the weakening of the GOP's political capital. There was a poll that indicated that voters trusted the GOP on all of the important issues just this week. Now? I'm not sure who would trust this party if we can't even figure out how to play as a team (that goes for both the McCarthy and Gaetz camps).

Posted by: Defenestratus at October 04, 2023 08:27 AM (HsIgq)

130 The result - however - will be the weakening of the GOP's political capital. There was a poll that indicated that voters trusted the GOP on all of the important issues just this week. Now? I'm not sure who would trust this party if we can't even figure out how to play as a team (that goes for both the McCarthy and Gaetz camps).
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 04, 2023 08:27 AM (HsIgq)
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The GOP is bankrupt. If they want some of that "political capital," they can consider engaging in a reasonable facsimile of governance - little stuff like doing what they say or being a real opposition party.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:28 AM (t0OGg)

131 If a revolution is what someone wants to save the country, they will need a leader or two to lead the revolution. Consider history: any credible revolutionary leader has always suffered real consequences for their acts, and paid a real world price while starting and conducting the revolution. Do we have anyone who currently fits this definition?? To simply play act being a leader has too often been the case.
Posted by: tubal at October 04, 2023 08:24 AM (PCK5/)

Trump. That list starts and ends with Trump. Four indictments plus civil suits threatening his economic viability. I don’t think he’s a revolutionary, though…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 04, 2023 08:29 AM (m6dV4)

132 McCarthy struck a deal with the Dems on the debt sealing and got nothing for us. I don't see why I should stick by him after that.
Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at October 04, 2023 07:54 AM (fKIdX)


Didn't McCarthy strike a deal with Gaetz that there'd be no more CRs? That they'd pass actual budgets? If you cannot do the single most basic element of your job, you shouldn't have it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 04, 2023 08:29 AM (z99Zw)

133 White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said at a press briefing on September 21st. “This is a broken immigration system.

WTF does that even mean? How is it broken? We take in more people than all of the EU? We hand out citizenship like cupie dolls and erasers.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:29 AM (BRHaw)

134 When all the "right" people are freaking out about the individual who has been instrumental in tossing the worthless speaker of the House I automatically believe it was the only proper course of action.

Pelosi made that position into what it is. She ran roughshod over everything and everyone. That's the model I want the GOP to follow. Or burn the fucker down.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 04, 2023 08:30 AM (Q4IgG)

135 It's also,
National Taco Day. 🌮

Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2023 08:30 AM (NpAcC)

136 If he sold it for $1, would that be fraudulent?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 04, 2023 08:25 AM (YIVH2)
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"Fraud" goes to motive and is a relative term of art. If he sells to avoid an impending judgement against him, it would be potentially fraudulent and reversible.

But it really doesn't matter: The Democrats are trying to destroy him and steal his wealth and well-being. Nothing like this has ever happened in America before.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 08:31 AM (kyrOa)

137 The GOP is bankrupt. If they want some of that "political capital," they can consider engaging in a reasonable facsimile of governance - little stuff like doing what they say or being a real opposition party.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:28 AM (t0OGg)

They could hang Boehner and Ryan to get things started.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:31 AM (BRHaw)

138 Those like you who still support the GOP are so damn scared of what will happen without them that you're ignoring what's happening with them.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at October 04, 2023 08:24 AM (0nfs

The GOP are nothing but guardrails on the road to socialism. We've been on this downward slope since Woodrow Wilson and there are only times at which we've slowed down that descent to madness.

Thing about guardrails is that if you hit them hard enough, they give way. I'm afraid of living under Communism. My family fled the bolsheviks when they tried to turn Krakow into a socialist utopia. Pardon me for clinging to the only vestige of hope on the horizon that stands between me and that unseemly fate.

Posted by: Defenestratus at October 04, 2023 08:31 AM (HsIgq)

139 There used to be a time in this country when what went on in washington dc had little to do with the lives of the average American citizen.

That which is ours is ours again. It will never be taken from us again.

A Man Can Dream.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 04, 2023 08:32 AM (0lY6Y)

140 Morning Horde, thx JJ. The story about NYS farmers yelling about the bill to ban pesticides is a perfect microcosm of NY politics. NYS is in the top ten on agricultural production but the left is willing to kill it to save bugs. Hochul is facing another powerful group in opposition, specifically golfers. A lot of the same pesticides are used on courses. I'm sure she'll find a completely novel way to screw up and harm both sides

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 04, 2023 08:32 AM (gZYFY)

141 Defenestratus - I understand how you think and feel, I had always thought the same til the Covid and Ukraine and Biden bribery fiascos. Now I see that we are too far gone, there is literally no hope of any kind in attempting to reform things through "regular order". This government must be destroyed, and this country must be ripped apart, before anything like "hope" can enter the conversation. For now, Destruction is all I wish to see, and Men of Destruction are the only ones I may find worthy of support.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2023 08:33 AM (S6gqv)

142 National Taco Day. 🌮
Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2023 08:30 AM (NpAcC)
===
We had tacos last night and I burned my mouth.

They were really good, lots of fresh cilantro and red onion.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 04, 2023 08:33 AM (RIvkX)

143 Rolling Stone previews next year, referring to President Trump as merely an "alleged felon."

All the media will be constantly using that exact phrase.

Trump should say he identifies as black and Rolled n Stoned is racist.

Or at the least, "if I was black, they wouldn't dare say that, but since I'm not, they're feel free to let their inner racist show."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 04, 2023 08:33 AM (/mEjB)

144 There was a poll that indicated...

FFS, polls are like lawyers and politicians and assholes. Everybody has one and lawyers and politicians will say whatever you want them to say. And no one with two brain cells that rub together trusts the GOP. At some point you just have to admit that the GOP has done nothing but lie and fail for the last couple of decades. It's time to move on.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 04, 2023 08:33 AM (YRsIm)

145 I'm sure she'll find a completely novel way to screw up and harm both sides
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 04, 2023 08:32 AM (gZYFY)

This is the way.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 04, 2023 08:34 AM (CIS44)

146 Searching for that easier softer way to implement, and hold on to radical changes in a failed governmental system seems to be the mindset of many on the vague amorphous “ Right”. Will this work in the long, or even short run. Perhaps we should look at the record over the last sixty years.

Posted by: tubal at October 04, 2023 08:34 AM (PCK5/)

147 "Keep those state populations in mind every time you hear or read that, since January 2021, the Democrat Biden politburo has allowed seven-million-plus illegal aliens to enter the United States of America.

7,000,000 we counted!!!

Posted by: rhennigantx "



I'm adding another million or so for the babies born since they arrived or will soon to be born.

Posted by: Ripley at October 04, 2023 08:34 AM (JojsZ)

148 And it's,
National Cinnamon Roll Day.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2023 08:34 AM (NpAcC)

149 Good take, JJ. I don't think this will be meaningless, though. Yes, the lawless criminals who run the junta probably will openly break the law to fund a "Ukraine aid package" (really just funneling money to NGO's to get illegals here to maim, murder, rape and impoverish and to enrich themselves), but it will have to do so in such an ugly, nauseatingl fashion that more people will turn against the junta. The major economic downturn on the horizon already was going to destabilize the regime, and this will throw fuel on the fire.

Can the police state apparatus be dismantled? It is worth a try.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 04, 2023 08:34 AM (KSNKu)

150 Where the heck did this McHenry guy come from? I'd never heard of him before yesterday.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 08:34 AM (xTRSc)

151 From citizens and consumers, to supplicants and serfs. The Great Reset marches on.

Posted by: Ordinary American at October 04, 2023 08:34 AM (4gD3D)

152 Didn't McCarthy strike a deal with Gaetz that there'd be no more CRs? That they'd pass actual budgets? If you cannot do the single most basic element of your job, you shouldn't have it.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 04, 2023 08:29 AM (z99Zw)

In all of this drama, I can't actually seem to figure out why McCarthy DIDN'T deliver on his promise to the Freedom Caucus (or at least his likely lame excuse). Was it because the donor class Republicans decided that they just wanted more CR nonsense?

Posted by: Defenestratus at October 04, 2023 08:34 AM (HsIgq)

153 Somebody hep me, I cain't git dis do open!

Posted by: Congressman Jamaal Bowman at October 04, 2023 08:35 AM (PiwSw)

154 And it's,
National Cinnamon Roll Day.



Don't forget to add cinnamon rolls to your chile.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 08:35 AM (xTRSc)

155 140 Morning Horde, thx JJ. The story about NYS farmers yelling about the bill to ban pesticides is a perfect microcosm of NY politics. NYS is in the top ten on agricultural production but the left is willing to kill it to save bugs. Hochul is facing another powerful group in opposition, specifically golfers. A lot of the same pesticides are used on courses. I'm sure she'll find a completely novel way to screw up and harm both sides
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 04, 2023 08:32 AM (gZYFY)

Rachel Silent Spring killed about 30 million people with the DDT bullshit. She is right there with Moa and Stalin.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:35 AM (BRHaw)

156 We had tacos last night and I burned my mouth.

They were really good, lots of fresh cilantro and red onion.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 04, 2023 08:33 AM (RIvkX)
******
Yes.... Taco Tuesday!

Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2023 08:35 AM (NpAcC)

157 Thing about guardrails is that if you hit them hard enough, they give way. I'm afraid of living under Communism. My family fled the bolsheviks when they tried to turn Krakow into a socialist utopia. Pardon me for clinging to the only vestige of hope on the horizon that stands between me and that unseemly fate.
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 04, 2023 08:31 AM (HsIgq)
++++
Where I disagree, I suppose, is that the GOP represents a "vestige of hope" either now or on some distant horizon. It is not. The GOP, at it's very very best, acts as a barely perceptible retarder on Democrat ambition. Most of the time, the GOP is right there with the Dems mashing down on the accelerator.

With GOP control, the next big step toward total tyranny might take 18-36 months longer than it would without that GOP control. That's about it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:35 AM (t0OGg)

158 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 08:35 AM (Zz0t1)

159 There doesn't have to be any actual fraud. The prosecutor just has to "feel" there is fraud.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 08:36 AM (xVkS/)

160 Today is The Feast Day of St. Francis of Assisi.🐕‍🦺🐈🦜
Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2023 08:25 AM (NpAcC)

Correct !

Posted by: JT at October 04, 2023 08:36 AM (T4tVD)

161 153 Somebody hep me, I cain't git dis do open!
Posted by: Congressman Jamaal Bowman at October 04, 2023 08:35 AM (PiwSw)

ha

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:36 AM (BRHaw)

162 You'd like to think that the Republicans would care. But they either don't or are too scared or too lazy to perform the central purpose of their branch of government.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2023 08:00 AM (MoZTd)


They're not scared and they're not lazy. They're grifters and thieves, just like the Democrats. They just lie to get elected.

Arguably the GOP is worse than the Democrats. At least the Democrats will honestly tell you how they're planning on fucking the country.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 04, 2023 08:36 AM (z99Zw)

163 The result - however - will be the weakening of the GOP's political capital. There was a poll that indicated that voters trusted the GOP on all of the important issues just this week. Now? I'm not sure who would trust this party if we can't even figure out how to play as a team (that goes for both the McCarthy and Gaetz camps).
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 04, 2023 08:27 AM (HsIgq)
========================
There are two views on this: Either Gaetz is at fault, as you imply, for not "governing", or McCarthy and his team failed to govern in their tenure, in which case they absolutely needed to be replaced.

I am generally on the side of "replace all the insiders", the McCarthys and the McDaniels, because we need actual change. But I reserve judgement here because what comes next is important.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 08:36 AM (kyrOa)

164 Cui bono from a Continuing Resolution?

Posted by: tubal at October 04, 2023 08:36 AM (PCK5/)

165 The GOP is bankrupt. If they want some of that "political capital," they can consider engaging in a reasonable facsimile of governance - little stuff like doing what they say or being a real opposition party.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:28 AM (t0OGg)

That's not who they are!

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 04, 2023 08:36 AM (KSNKu)

166 For your entertainment.

The US Congress Band!!!!


https://youtu.be/pct1uEhAqBQ

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 08:36 AM (Zz0t1)

167 Hey, leave Eisenhower out of it. At least he let us travel. Helped, even. Enforced the law at our borders. Warned us, too, who the real enemy was. Why pick on him?

Good morning, all.

Posted by: creeper, waiting for the rain at October 04, 2023 08:37 AM (cTCuP)

168 I think you could have executed that business transaction differently in 2014, therefore your punishment is that you must liquidate all of your assets and never do business in this state again.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 08:37 AM (xVkS/)

169 The GOP is bankrupt. If they want some of that "political capital," they can consider engaging in a reasonable facsimile of governance - little stuff like doing what they say or being a real opposition party.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:28 AM (t0OGg)



But then how would they make friends across the aisle and go to all those cool parties?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 08:37 AM (Zz0t1)

170 "the entire system is so corrupt that even that is mere Titanic deck chair rearranging."

Accurate sitrep. The whole nation is wicked from top to bottom.

Posted by: gp's Chocolate Covered Ballot Drops at October 04, 2023 08:37 AM (MvF+J)

171 In all of this drama, I can't actually seem to figure out why McCarthy DIDN'T deliver on his promise to the Freedom Caucus (or at least his likely lame excuse). Was it because the donor class Republicans decided that they just wanted more CR nonsense?
Posted by: Defenestratus a

We are up against a shutdown, we dont want to stop gma's checks. we have to have a CR and then an Omnibus spending bill...again.
-Kevin McCarthy

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 04, 2023 08:38 AM (CIS44)

172 There will not be any "revolution " anytime soon - we have a timid and compliant population, overall, that is too terrified at the moment to risk it. What there will be is Collapse, then growing chaos, and terror on the streets not just in some cities, but in ALL cities. And only then will the time be ripe for a Revolution to occur. I don't know how many of us will live to see it, this may take a couple decades to play out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2023 08:38 AM (S6gqv)

173 There doesn't have to be any actual fraud. The prosecutor just has to "feel" there is fraud.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 08:36 AM (xVkS/)
-----------------------------
haha! I just learned yesterday that this is literally the case under NY law, at least as the state prosecution believes. No "victims" are even necessary, and in this case, don't exist.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 08:38 AM (kyrOa)

174 Apparently outside contractors come into the IRS and are given access to confidential information along with tools for searching/sorting and retrieving individual tax documents. Is this how it works at CIA, NSA and The FBI? Probably not, because those organizations are tasked with protecting the state from the people.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 04, 2023 08:38 AM (ogTiX)

175 In all of this drama, I can't actually seem to figure out why McCarthy DIDN'T deliver on his promise to the Freedom Caucus (or at least his likely lame excuse). Was it because the donor class Republicans decided that they just wanted more CR nonsense?
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 04, 2023 08:34 AM (HsIgq)
++++
The GOP, like everyone else in American government, does not want normal budget order. It's too dangerous. It especially does not want a budget process with multiple bills.

The budget (or its phony-baloney analogue through the CR process) is where tremendous quantities of political power are tied up within both the House and the Senate. It is how men like McConnell and Schumer retain their power and it is the cudgel used to enforce the status quo within both chambers. It is too important, and the amount of deal-making, political pressure, etc. associated with omnibus spending bills is too great.

Returning to normal order is a problem, but moving to multiple non-omnibus spending bills blows up established internal power systems within both parties and chambers. Absolutely *nobody* with serious amounts of control within the Parties wants that to happen.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:39 AM (t0OGg)

176
3) Democrats could have a 1 seat majority and they still rule like they have 50 seat advantage.

Exactly so. They don't care. They're just going to plow on no matter what. They figure if they lose control, so what? The GOP won't repeal any of what they've passed and the worm will turn and they'll be back in power.

Passing Obamacare cost the Democrats both the House and Senate in 2010. Well, a few years later and they took both back. And we still have Obamacare.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2023 08:40 AM (MoZTd)

177 Kennedy v. Bremerton School District, the court overturned a 1970s case regarding behavior that violates
the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause, broadening the ability of school employees to engage in religious activity, so long as it is not part of their official duties.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:40 AM (BRHaw)

178 Like remora's on a Megalodon,
So are the days of our strife...

Posted by: Heirloominati, brought to you by Proctor &a Gamble at October 04, 2023 08:40 AM (CtJ/Z)

179 Now Newt Gingrich wants to expel Matt Gaetz. Just another example of if you spend more than 3 seconds in DC you’re infected forever with the stench…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 04, 2023 08:40 AM (m6dV4)

180 > In all of this drama, I can't actually seem to figure out why McCarthy DIDN'T deliver on his promise to the Freedom Caucus (or at least his likely lame excuse). Was it because the donor class Republicans decided that they just wanted more CR nonsense?
Posted by: Defenestratus
______________

McCarthy probably figured he'd have the backing of the likes of McConnell who he worked with last year to tank a number of GOP candidate's elections. But... McConnell's not really "there" anymore, so his backstop is pretty soft right now.

That might be part of the reason Gaetz went after him at this time.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 04, 2023 08:40 AM (Q4IgG)

181 Passing Obamacare cost the Democrats both the House and Senate in 2010. Well, a few years later and they took both back. And we still have Obamacare.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2023 08:40 AM (MoZTd)

Fuck McCain

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:40 AM (BRHaw)

182 The GOP donor class is, at best, center left. That is who the GOP caters to.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 08:40 AM (xVkS/)

183 It's also,
National Vodka Day, too.

So pick your poison.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2023 08:41 AM (NpAcC)

184 "Now Newt Gingrich wants to expel Matt Gaetz."

And he said so at ... WaPo!

Posted by: gp's Chocolate Covered Ballot Drops at October 04, 2023 08:41 AM (MvF+J)

185 The desperation around funding Ukraine without limit and without end along with the nearly complete disregard for own border and unraveling society is nothing less than psychotic.
Posted by: Ordinary American at October 04, 2023 08:04 AM (4gD3D)


You misspelled evil.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 04, 2023 08:41 AM (z99Zw)

186
Fuck McCain
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:40 AM (BRHaw)



I do. Daily. For America.

Posted by: Satan at October 04, 2023 08:41 AM (Zz0t1)

187 this may take a couple decades to play out.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2023 08:38 AM (S6gqv)

Generally agreed with your assessment but not the timetable. I believe in Mickey Kaus's Feiler Faster thesis.

Posted by: Ordinary American at October 04, 2023 08:41 AM (4gD3D)

188 Who is Newt?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 08:41 AM (xVkS/)

189 It's also,
National Vodka Day, too.

So pick your poison.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2023 08:41 AM (NpAcC)



Dripping Springs.

Posted by: Satan at October 04, 2023 08:42 AM (Zz0t1)

190 And an early entry for Strike One.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 08:42 AM (Zz0t1)

191 TODAY’S WEATHER FORECAST
10/4
86°Hi
RealFeel® 93°
Breezy with a gusty t-storm

WTF does that mean??
Posted by: rhennigantx


Possible straight line winds.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2023 08:42 AM (aqRb8)

192 It's also,
National Vodka Day, too.



It's always Vodka Day for me.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 08:42 AM (xTRSc)

193 Back to the content

Posted by: Heirloominati at October 04, 2023 08:42 AM (CtJ/Z)

194 Who is Newt?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 08:41 AM (xVkS/)



At this point, seemingly a blowhard Bushtard.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 08:43 AM (Zz0t1)

195 183 It's also,
National Vodka Day, too.

So pick your poison.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2023 08:41 AM (NpAcC)


A White Russian it is!

Posted by: The Dude, reaching for the Kahlua at October 04, 2023 08:43 AM (PiwSw)

196 Good morning!

OK, bring on da links. . .

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at October 04, 2023 08:43 AM (izj35)

197 @benshapiro
·
Follow
Congrats to the state of Maryland on finally obtaining three Senators.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:43 AM (BRHaw)

198 Apparently outside contractors come into the IRS and are given access to confidential information along with tools for searching/sorting and retrieving individual tax documents. Is this how it works at CIA, NSA and The FBI? Probably not, because those organizations are tasked with protecting the state from the people.
Posted by: Oglebay at October 04, 2023 08:38 AM (ogTiX)
++++
Contractors having access is not itself a problem. I used to be one of those guys. A lot of government systems - and not just in the IRS - are designed, built, operated or maintained by businesses. The employees of those businesses often need some amount of access to the systems. Those people end up with contractor access, because they are not IRS employees. Ditto various other contractors - like people who might work in a call center or whatever.

Contractors having access to tax data is not a problem on its own. Nor, for that matter, is contractors having access to intelligence information. "Contractor" can mean a lot of things.

But innocent explanations aside (and there are a ton of them), there are also of the obvious non-innocent explanations for the presence of ersatz "contractors" ...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:43 AM (t0OGg)

199 Where I disagree, I suppose, is that the GOP represents a "vestige of hope" either now or on some distant horizon. It is not. The GOP, at it's very very best, acts as a barely perceptible retarder on Democrat ambition. Most of the time, the GOP is right there with the Dems mashing down on the accelerator.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:35 AM (t0OGg)

Fair enough. I guess its like being a fan of the Cleveland Browns.

For what its worth, I dropped my Republican voter registration in 2014 and have been an independent ever since.

I just don't see any semblance of an effort at an organized, sane opposition to this nonsense outside of the GOP.

Posted by: Defenestratus at October 04, 2023 08:43 AM (ufjoC)

200 "Rolling Stone previews next year, referring to President Trump as merely an "alleged felon."

All the media will be constantly using that exact phrase. "


I like how the MSM always talks about all the people around Trump that were charged and convicted (ex: Flynn) As if he surrounded himself with the mafia and it wasn't all a organized hit job by the govt with unlimited resources to harass and destroy people. Hell, they still spewing the Russian collusion lie to the LIV's

Posted by: Ripley at October 04, 2023 08:44 AM (JojsZ)

201 So they busted John Kerry? Oh...

THIS IS A VERY BIG DEAL: High-Level Iranian Spy Ring Busted in Washington.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 08:44 AM (xVkS/)

202 I think Gaetz went after McCarthy like a first time hunter who looks up and sees a 12 point buck in his sights on his very first day out. Sometimes you just get lucky; fortune favors the bold.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2023 08:44 AM (S6gqv)

203 As soon as the world moves off the US dollar as the reserve currency, it's ballgame. That's coming.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at October 04, 2023 08:43 AM (0nfs

I don't understand what this means.

Posted by: Ordinary American at October 04, 2023 08:44 AM (4gD3D)

204 So they busted John Kerry? Oh...

THIS IS A VERY BIG DEAL: High-Level Iranian Spy Ring Busted in Washington.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 08:44 AM (xVkS/)




NO STANDING!

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at October 04, 2023 08:45 AM (Zz0t1)

205 It's always Vodka Day for me.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 08:42 AM (xTRSc)
******
I could go for a White Russian right now.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2023 08:45 AM (NpAcC)

206 Now Newt Gingrich wants to expel Matt Gaetz. Just another example of if you spend more than 3 seconds in DC you’re infected forever with the stench…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 04, 2023 08:40 AM (m6dV4)

Newt is a pile of old garbage who needs to go away already. His time has passed like a stool in the night.

Some of these old fucks never learn.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 04, 2023 08:45 AM (0lY6Y)

207 172 There will not be any "revolution " anytime soon - we have a timid and compliant population, overall, that is too terrified at the moment to risk it. What there will be is Collapse, then growing chaos, and terror on the streets not just in some cities, but in ALL cities. And only then will the time be ripe for a Revolution to occur. I don't know how many of us will live to see it, this may take a couple decades to play out.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2023 08:38 AM (S6gqv)

Dissolution and fragmentation are continuing apace. That obviously isn't total protection from a terrorist government, but it is a good start and offers some peace of mind. People who are well fed and warm do not revolt. Once that changes, and that is coming straight at us, those fragmented areas will segment off. People really need to move from at least a handful of places ASAP before the SHTF in even bigger ways.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 04, 2023 08:45 AM (KSNKu)

208 I guess its like being a fan of the Cleveland Browns.



Where did the team come up with that ridiculous nickname?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 08:46 AM (xTRSc)

209 When did Republicans ban Anne Frank?

Mondaire Jones (
@MondaireJones
Today I joined Valley Cottage Library's Banned Books Read-A-Thon. I read
from The Diary of Anne Frank, a memoir on the Holocaust. GOP lawmakers
across the country are more focused on banning our history than funding
our schools. They need to get their priorities straight.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 08:46 AM (xVkS/)

210
Sometimes when discussions get impassioned around here, I want to step back. I have my doubts about wanting to participate.

Then I go and read the comments over at Instapundit. Those people are actually deranged. We do a good job of policing ourselves, but over there, there's nothing stopping insane racists, Jew baiters, leftist trolls and 50-Cent Army troops from babbling away.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2023 08:46 AM (MoZTd)

211 "Ordinary American " , LOL. No, you don't understand what that means, but you will. I promise you, you will.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2023 08:46 AM (S6gqv)

212 Mondaire Jones (
@MondaireJones
Today I joined Valley Cottage Library's Banned Books Read-A-Thon. I read
from The Diary of Anne Frank, a memoir on the Holocaust. GOP lawmakers
across the country are more focused on banning our history than funding
our schools. They need to get their priorities straight.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 08:46 AM (xVkS/)



Basketball Jones > Mondaire Jones

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 08:46 AM (Zz0t1)

213 Thanks JJ !

AGAIN !!!

Posted by: JT at October 04, 2023 08:46 AM (T4tVD)

214 203 As soon as the world moves off the US dollar as the reserve currency, it's ballgame. That's coming.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at October 04, 2023 08:43 AM (0nfs

I don't understand what this means.
Posted by: Ordinary American at October 04, 2023 08:44 AM (4gD3D)

Don't worry. You will understand.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 04, 2023 08:47 AM (KSNKu)

215 I guess its like being a fan of the Cleveland Browns.



Where did the team come up with that ridiculous nickname?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus a

Paul Brown their initial owner and one of the founders of professional football.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 04, 2023 08:47 AM (CIS44)

216 Returning to normal order is a problem, but moving to multiple non-omnibus spending bills blows up established internal power systems within both parties and chambers. Absolutely *nobody* with serious amounts of control within the Parties wants that to happen.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:39 AM (t0OGg)

Thank you Joe. This explains why no reason was readily available.

Posted by: Defenestratus at October 04, 2023 08:47 AM (ufjoC)

217
Where did the team come up with that ridiculous nickname?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 08:46 AM (xTRSc)



The original owner of the team had the last name of Brown, so in true, rich ego form, it's his team, therefore they're the Browns.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 08:47 AM (Zz0t1)

218 In 2016, there were 12,820 rapes in France; in 2020, this had risen to 22,770; by 2021, the latest year for which records are available, there were 30,780 rapes, an increase in one year of 40%.

48 percent of criminal acts in Paris are committed by foreign nationals, while this figure is 55 percent in Marseille.

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:47 AM (BRHaw)

219 Returning to normal order is a problem, but moving to multiple non-omnibus spending bills blows up established internal power systems within both parties and chambers. Absolutely *nobody* with serious amounts of control within the Parties wants that to happen.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:39 AM (t0OGg)
----
Which is exactly why it *must* happen.

BREAK THE PARTIES...

We were warned about them over two hundred years ago and now we can see just how poisonous they are to a Constitutional republic.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 04, 2023 08:47 AM (YIVH2)

220 Where did the team come up with that ridiculous nickname?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 08:46 AM (xTRSc)


*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Amber Heard at October 04, 2023 08:47 AM (PiwSw)

221 ConInc media grifters like Kruiser always run the same play when a cuck is in trouble: "I am severely conservatively against these ConInc cucks, but we have to protect these cucks to stop these cucks so they can cuck another day!"

It doesn't matter that this line of reasoning makes no fucking sense and has never once worked, ever, and is a transparent ploy to keep the base voters on the Uniparty plantation. They'll say the same thing every time: keep supporting us against yourself, or you are a SECRET DEMOCRAT. Make sure to vote and donate, but mostly donate!

Spare me.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 04, 2023 08:47 AM (0FoWg)

222 Here it is again, National Broderick Crawford Day.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 04, 2023 08:48 AM (4PZHB)

223 That 7 million figure doesn't include 'known' get-aways. A known get-away is an illegal that was seen crossing the border via camera or drone but not apprehended. The DHS doesn't even bother estimating the ones who are not detected at all any more.

Gaetz was right about taking the gavel from McCarthy. Mrs Luntz broke every promise he made to get the gavel in the first place. Screw him. Time for new leadership.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at October 04, 2023 08:48 AM (l7Kbv)

224 Disclose.tv @disclosetv 1h
JUST IN - Biden is canceling an additional $9 billion in student-loan debt after the Supreme Court blocked his debt-relief plan — Bloomberg

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 04, 2023 08:48 AM (krqg6)

225 A couple of suggestions FWIW for the next GOP Speaker...
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 04, 2023 08:16 AM (YRsIm)


Immediately release all information related to tax money paid to get rid of sexual abuse/harassment claims.

Require a recorded floor vote to ever do it again.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 04, 2023 08:49 AM (z99Zw)

226 Thanks JJ !

AGAIN !!!
Posted by: JT at October 04, 2023 08:46 AM (T4tVD)



It really is amazing you take all that time to provide us all that hard hitting news and info ON YOUR BIRTHDAY.

You're the ultimate giver.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 08:49 AM (Zz0t1)

227 >>A black conservative event at the University of Madison-Wisconsin on Saturday was interrupted by left-wing protesters who “exposed themselves and even masturbated on camera,” according to a News Talk 1130 report this week.

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THESE LEFTY PROTESERS REPLACED THE TYPICAL MORAL MASTURBATION WITH LITERAL MASTURBATION. YOU DICKS!!!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at October 04, 2023 08:49 AM (izj35)

228 188 Who is Newt?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 08:41 AM (xVkS/)

McConnell.

The Senate cucks actually started to make this move last week in a low key way when they stood against him. Of course, their solution will be a fresher cuck, but that's only going to last so long.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 04, 2023 08:49 AM (KSNKu)

229 In 2016, there were 12,820 rapes in France; in 2020, this had risen to 22,770; by 2021, the latest year for which records are available, there were 30,780 rapes, an increase in one year of 40%.
48 percent of criminal acts in Paris are committed by foreign nationals, while this figure is 55 percent in Marseille.
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:47 AM (BRHaw)

Where da french wimmens at?

Posted by: Jason Billingsley, Violent Sex Offender at October 04, 2023 08:49 AM (0lY6Y)

230 209 When did Republicans ban Anne Frank?

They didn't.

If you can believe it - its a lie perpetrated by the Democrats. IIRC, What was in question was whether the journal itself - which wasn't curated by the family - and has several graphic sexual sections in it, would be suitable for a middle school library.

Posted by: Defenestratus at October 04, 2023 08:50 AM (ufjoC)

231 McCarthy broke every one of his promises he made to become Speaker.

It's completely irrelevant to howl "no plan," "chaos!" etc. if you don't first articulate what should be the consequences for him breaking those promises.

Because every single person upset he got kicked are unanimous in their demands that Kevin also suffer no punishment for his lies.

They all sing from the same old same old GOPe Playbook: Tell the conservatives what ever they want to hear in the election, any lie at all, then refuse to deliver and rattle the bones of every boogeyman from "Democrats are worse," to "bad press!" they can find to excuse their failures.

We are not taking it anymore--deliver or get gone. Don't care why no more. Don't care if it might get worse. Don't care: Deliver.

They don't understand that. The same reason they don't understand why the base supports Trump. The NYT says nothing has changed, everything is fine-- why are you people misbehaving, not listening to us?!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 04, 2023 08:50 AM (/mEjB)

232
BREAK THE PARTIES...

We were warned about them over two hundred years ago and now we can see just how poisonous they are to a Constitutional republic.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 04, 2023 08:47 AM (YIVH2)


Some years ago, an Italian court investigated the political parties there. The web of corruption uncovered was so bad that several of them - notably the Christian Democrats and the Socalists - went out of business.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2023 08:50 AM (MoZTd)

233 It's also,
National Vodka Day, too.

So pick your poison.
Posted by: redridinghood


Tito's

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2023 08:50 AM (aqRb8)

234 It doesn't matter that this line of reasoning makes no fucking sense and has never once worked, ever, and is a transparent ploy to keep the base voters on the Uniparty plantation. They'll say the same thing every time: keep supporting us against yourself, or you are a SECRET DEMOCRAT. Make sure to vote and donate, but mostly donate!

Spare me.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 04, 2023 08:47 AM (0FoWg)

It does work. Like a decoy duck.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 04, 2023 08:51 AM (KSNKu)

235 Some years ago, an Italian court investigated the political parties there. The web of corruption uncovered was so bad that several of them - notably the Christian Democrats and the Socalists - went out of business.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2023 08:50 AM (MoZTd)
----
Interesting. I wonder how they compare to our own parties' corruption?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 04, 2023 08:51 AM (YIVH2)

236 The dollar crashing will not be a pretty sight. Widespread poverty, shortages, unemployment, bankruptcies. Wheelbarrows full of deutschmarks, er, dollars.

I'm devoting myself to trying to just cushion the blow.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at October 04, 2023 08:51 AM (uEP50)

237 They didn't.

If you can believe it - its a lie perpetrated by the Democrats. IIRC, What was in question was whether the journal itself - which wasn't curated by the family - and has several graphic sexual sections in it, would be suitable for a middle school library.
Posted by: Defenestratus at

My recollection was that it was a graphic novel version which included those scenes in graphic pictorial form. Which of course the Dems pounced on.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 04, 2023 08:52 AM (CIS44)

238
Tito's
Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2023 08:50 AM



If your local store has it, try Dripping Springs. Another Texas distilled vodka. Smooth and clean. I was NOT disappointed.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 08:52 AM (Zz0t1)

239 Mark Levin lost me at his initial comments about J6 at the time. Great constitutional mind but, fuck him. However, upthread, to call him an old school insider Republican is utter and complete bullshit. You can go back to his one hour shows in 2006 where he railed against the GOP establishment and used the term Deep State which we all use today. He lit a fire under Limbaughs ass and others in right-wing media and is one of the primary people responsible for opening peoples eyes to the GOPe.

Levin deserves shit for his comments on Gaetz but let's not attribute shit too him that isn't true.

Posted by: JROD at October 04, 2023 08:52 AM (IlL6s)

240 As a rebup (actually I prefer conservative) I'm not embarrassed by what transpired yesterday. What a stupid take by all the career idiots, elected and the msm. McCarthy won his seat with the caveat that he could lose it just the way it happened yesterday. What embarrasses me as an American is the lockstep governance by the dims. That's not a Republic, that's socialism or communism. It's a hive mind of evil. I hope I see the day when all of the career pols meet our maker, repubs and dims. I should live that long, but alas I'm 29 a couple times over.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 04, 2023 08:52 AM (2NHgQ)

241 Apparently outside contractors come into the IRS and are given access to confidential information along with tools for searching/sorting and retrieving individual tax documents. Is this how it works at CIA, NSA and The FBI? Probably not, because those organizations are tasked with protecting the state from the people.
Posted by: Oglebay at October 04, 2023 08:38 AM (ogTiX)
==================
Edward Snowden and Glenn Simpson tell you "yes", NSA and FBI both give outside contractors access.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 08:52 AM (41Nl3)

242 Three days from now is the 30th aniversary of the start of my 4 1/2 month Safari in Somalia.

Had to stay in the Army an extra week over that shit.

Posted by: Reforger at October 04, 2023 08:53 AM (7N/Zu)

243 Keep those state populations in mind every time you hear or read that, since January 2021, the Democrat Biden politburo has allowed seven-million-plus illegal aliens to enter the United States of America.
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 08:25 AM (BRHaw)


Funny how you never hear about the seven million plus who left so that the total number can remain at exactly eleven million - as has been the case for 40 years.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 04, 2023 08:53 AM (z99Zw)

244 Listened to Newt on Hannity call the 8 Rs who sided with Ds to boot McCarthy "traitors."

Eff him. The promise was made to pass 12 (14?) appropriation bis to fund the government. McCarthy didn't. This is due every September 30th. It's not a surprise.

If McCarthy can't even do that, the basic task of the job, then exactly what is his job? Good riddance.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 04, 2023 08:53 AM (FxH7T)

245 When did Republicans ban Anne Frank?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 08:46 AM (xVkS/)

They didn't. The Diary of Anne Frank wasn't banned; some freakazoid pervert wrote some swill about Anne Frank's purported lesbian fantasies and that was what was removed.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at October 04, 2023 08:53 AM (l7Kbv)

246 You'll have to remind me explicitly what promises to the Freedom Caucus, which btw is a small part of the 200+ members in the House Caucus, McCarthy didn't deliver on. I think it was Jim Jordan who did a good job of pointing out all the good that was done and all the promises kept. They have already voted on 7 spending bills and only have three more to go. The Freedom Caucus CR was killed by the same Clown Car that voted with Democrats to oust McCarthy. They say they didn't want a CR at all, you know The Clown Car 8, but that was just cover for Chief Clown Gaetz's personal war with McCarthy. I'm not McCarthy's biggest fan, but the guy did what he said he was going to do, plus he wanted to pass the Freedom Caucus CR which had the border, spending reductions and a bunch of other demands in it. There are over 200 members of the Caucus pissed off at this cabal right now and I don't blame them. They've gotten their way more than any other members and they're still turning over the tables. It would be great if they threw the Clown Car 8 down the Capital steps. I'll bring the popcorn.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 04, 2023 08:54 AM (8Voqu)

247 Buy Gold!

Posted by: Zombie G. Gordon Liddy at October 04, 2023 08:54 AM (aD39U)

248 That 7 million figure doesn't include 'known' get-aways. A known get-away is an illegal that was seen crossing the border via camera or drone but not apprehended. The DHS doesn't even bother estimating the ones who are not detected at all any more.


So busting a cap in their ass and leaving them lay where they fall probably wouldn't be investigated?

Interesting possibilities.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2023 08:55 AM (aqRb8)

249 They don't understand that. The same reason they don't understand why the base supports Trump. The NYT says nothing has changed, everything is fine-- why are you people misbehaving, not listening to us?!
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 04, 2023 08:50 AM (/mEjB)

It is the fault of the rubes. They are supposed to believe the lies and pretend like lies are truth. Damn fools.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 04, 2023 08:55 AM (KSNKu)

250 The real outrage from the GOPe over McCarthy is the utter impertinence of us lowly people expecting they keep their promises.

For their entire political lives, they never faced consequences from the base-- if they were ousted, it was Democrats who whipped them.

And that is, as we have long-discussed, one of the biggest reasons they so hate Trump: He showed how easy it was to deliver on campaign promises.

Not only exposing their long-running con game but also--worst of all--giving voters a thirst and expectation for more

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 04, 2023 08:56 AM (/mEjB)

251 gluk gluk gluk gluk gluk gluk gluk gluk gluk gluk slurp swallow

Posted by: Matt Gaetz sucking off Hakeem Jeffries at October 04, 2023 08:56 AM (0a7EK)

252 If McCarthy can't even do that, the basic task of the job, then exactly what is his job? Good riddance.

But guys !!! I'm the only thing standing between you and communism. You want me on that wall !!! You need me on that wall !!!

Posted by: Kevin McCarthy at October 04, 2023 08:57 AM (14zHW)

253 I have to take Newt and wipe my Gingrich.

Posted by: Matt Gaetz, American Hero at October 04, 2023 08:57 AM (0lY6Y)

254 I wish I could listen to Levin but I can't only take a little dose. He's just not a broadcaster. Guess I was spoiled by Rush.

I miss Rush.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 04, 2023 08:57 AM (NBVIP)

255 If your local store has it, try Dripping Springs. Another Texas distilled vodka. Smooth and clean. I was NOT disappointed.
Posted by: Sponge


I WILL look into it. Thank you.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2023 08:57 AM (aqRb8)

256 But guys !!! I'm the only thing standing between you and communism. You want me on that wall !!! You need me on that wall !!!
Posted by: Kevin McCarthy a

Donate today. 5X match.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 04, 2023 08:57 AM (CIS44)

257 If it's Matt Gaetz's fault, why is the GOPe kicking Nancy Pelosi out of her posh office today?

They can be mad at Gaetz, but at least he wasn't in league with the Democrats.

Posted by: cpurick at October 04, 2023 08:57 AM (bwWDS)

258 124 Today is The Feast Day of St. Francis of Assisi.🐕‍🦺🐈🦜
Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2023 08:25 AM (NpAcC)

There's a prophecy attributed to St. Francis that there would one day be a heretical pope who was not canonically elected. A canonical election seems a hard thing to screw up, but there is an interesting case to be made that Benedict didn't fully resign his office(hence his continued use of titles).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 04, 2023 08:58 AM (eYoxG)

259 Hot news @TheNewsTrending 11h
Some House Republicans have been in contact with President Trump

“I have been told President Trump might be open to helping the Republican Party, at least in the short term, if necessary.”

Breaking911 @Breaking911 9h
NEW: GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene says she supports voting Donald Trump for House Speaker

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 28 minutes
NEW: Congressman Greg Steube, Congressman Troy Nehls and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene endorse Donald Trump for House Speaker after McCarthy's removal

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 04, 2023 08:58 AM (krqg6)

260 >>Apparently outside contractors come into the IRS and are given access to confidential information along with tools for searching/sorting and retrieving individual tax documents. Is this how it works at CIA, NSA and The FBI? Probably not, because those organizations are tasked with protecting the state from the people.


Welp, you've just stumbled onto a very big part of how the Russia Collusion narrative unfolded. There were IC contractors querying the shiz out of the NSA databases leading up to the 2016 election (for how long - who knows?). Then head of the NSA Rogers (IIRC) discovered this and shut it down. Within weeks, the FBI and DOJ National Security team filed for its first FISA warrant to monitor Trump's campaign - in what should be an obvious method to regain access to IC data for campaign monitoring by Democrats.

https://tinyurl.com/mrta4a22

*To my recollection, we never were told which contractor firms were querying the NSA dbs

Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2023 08:58 AM (izj35)

261 Mondaire Jones (
@MondaireJones
Today I joined Valley Cottage Library's Banned Books Read-A-Thon. I read
from The Diary of Anne Frank, a memoir on the Holocaust. GOP lawmakers
across the country are more focused on banning our history than funding
our schools. They need to get their priorities straight.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 08:46 AM (xVkS/)
--------------------------
what a piece of shit liar. Scumbag. The only version of Anne Frank local conservatives have tried to ban is a "graphic novel" version that emphasizes imagined sexual perversions.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 08:58 AM (41Nl3)

262 The result - however - will be the weakening of the GOP's political capital. There was a poll that indicated that voters trusted the GOP on all of the important issues just this week. Now? I'm not sure who would trust this party if we can't even figure out how to play as a team (that goes for both the McCarthy and Gaetz camps).
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 04, 2023 08:27 AM (HsIgq)


We're a year out from the election. Assuming that the House GOP can get their act even a little together (stop laughing) then this will HELP them. Even McConnell can't fuck things up because he isn't the majority leader.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 04, 2023 08:58 AM (z99Zw)

263 They didn't. The Diary of Anne Frank wasn't banned; some freakazoid pervert wrote some swill about Anne Frank's purported lesbian fantasies and that was what was removed.


What I read was that Anne had normal, teenage-girl (hetero)sexual stuff in her diary that her father removed or toned down in the published version. Somehow, somebody got a hold of the unexpurgated version and restored that stuff.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 08:59 AM (xTRSc)

264 257 If it's Matt Gaetz's fault, why is the GOPe kicking Nancy Pelosi out of her posh office today?

They can be mad at Gaetz, but at least he wasn't in league with the Democrats.
--------------------
Yep. We've been under attack since 2020. Time to pay the Junta back. If you haven't the balls for this then you haven't the balls.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 04, 2023 08:59 AM (Wg6v7)

265 > If it's Matt Gaetz's fault, why is the GOPe kicking Nancy Pelosi out of her posh office today?
____________

Well over year into his speakership and you have to wonder about this. It's like the GOP expected her to return to glory.*

*They did ("they" includes McCarthy)

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 04, 2023 09:00 AM (Q4IgG)

266 “Fool's errand? Pissing in the wind? Last stand at Corregidor? You'll have to decide that. But America is no more.”

So why bother with…anything?

“Defeatist cynicism is the arrogance that we know the outcome; we do not. Our Creator expects us to fight for good until HE ends the game, not us.” - Robert Pratt

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 04, 2023 09:00 AM (68HCl)

267 257 If it's Matt Gaetz's fault, why is the GOPe kicking Nancy Pelosi out of her posh office today?

They can be mad at Gaetz, but at least he wasn't in league with the Democrats.
Posted by: cpurick at October 04, 2023 08:57 AM (bwWDS)

That was classic. The fact it happened the nanosecond Pelosi's finger puppet McCarthy got the boot is all you need to know.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 04, 2023 09:00 AM (KSNKu)

268 You'll have to remind me explicitly what promises to the Freedom Caucus, which btw is a small part of the 200+ members in the House Caucus, McCarthy didn't deliver on.
===================
No more CR's

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 09:00 AM (41Nl3)

269 I don't think trains can dodge, let alone artfully...

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h
NEW: More than a thousand migrants rode atop a freight train to the edge of the US border on Tuesday after dodging authorities on a 10-day journey through Mexico.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 04, 2023 09:00 AM (krqg6)

270 You'll have to remind me explicitly what promises to the Freedom Caucus, which btw is a small part of the 200+ members in the House Caucus, McCarthy didn't deliver on. I think it was Jim Jordan who did a good job of pointing out all the good that was done and all the promises kept. They have already voted on 7 spending bills and only have three more to go. ...
Posted by: Marcus T at October 04, 2023 08:54 AM (8Voqu)
++++
There were three big elements to it:
1. A return to normal budget order and no more omnibus spending bills. We will have budgets, not CRs, and those budgets will be in multiple pieces.
2. Committee assignments will include non-GOPe members
3. Rule changes to make McCarthy personally accountable if he fails to deliver (it becomes easier for intra-party opposition to remove the Speaker)

McCarthy failed to deliver on the key objective, which was the budget, and the third condition - the one he had to agree to as a part of the vote that made him Speaker - came into effect the moment that the intra-party opposition decided it should.

Well, the opposition decided it should. McCarthy bet wrong.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 09:00 AM (t0OGg)

271 What I read was that Anne had normal, teenage-girl (hetero)sexual stuff in her diary that her father removed or toned down in the published version. Somehow, somebody got a hold of the unexpurgated version and restored that stuff.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 08:59 AM (xTRSc)



And a teacher assigned that version to a class to read without informing the parents of it's sexual content.

THAT'S the only "Republican Rage" about it.

No one has banned it. They just rejected the forced reading of it by CHILDREN without parental approval.

F*cking lying leftist pieces of absolute shit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 09:00 AM (Zz0t1)

272 Thanks much JJ again. And when we talk about unelected traitors in government agencies, let's not forget they keep buying guns and ammo. Like the IRS and Dept. Of Ed.

They want us dead.

Posted by: Paulie bag a' donuts at October 04, 2023 09:01 AM (hTMd7)

273 Today is The Feast Day of St. Francis of Assisi.🐕‍🦺🐈🦜
Posted by: redridinghood


I just learned, that is you copy others on an email, you gain a patron Saint.


St. Francis of a CC.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2023 09:01 AM (aqRb8)

274 “Defeatist cynicism is the arrogance that we know the outcome; we do not. Our Creator expects us to fight for good until HE ends the game, not us.” - Robert Pratt



At this point, the only hope is to be found in the Lord.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 09:01 AM (xTRSc)

275 203 As soon as the world moves off the US dollar as the reserve currency, it's ballgame. That's coming.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at October 04, 2023 08:43 AM (0nfs

///

^^^This^^^

Posted by: JM in Illinois at October 04, 2023 09:01 AM (eacvM)

276 John Boehner, Paul Ryan and Eric Cantor out of the Speakership

The last 4 Republican Speakers (adding McCarthy here) have stabbed us in the back. Arguably all since Denis Hastert became the first controlled SoH

That we are still dealing with this is absurd. The Rep SoH should be a rock ribbed conservative from a deep red district just like when the Dems have the SoH they choose an extremist nutter for a deep blue district like Nazi Pelosi

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2023 09:02 AM (XqcwY)

277 The Republicans keep following the GOPe and Bushies right into irrelevance. Old man Bush lost after one term and W left office unpopular leading to Obama and then the tea party which eventually gave us Trump. The GOPe still thinks the Dems are "our good friends across the aisle" and not revolutionary Marxist psychos.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 04, 2023 09:02 AM (gZYFY)

278 263 They didn't. The Diary of Anne Frank wasn't banned; some freakazoid pervert wrote some swill about Anne Frank's purported lesbian fantasies and that was what was removed.


What I read was that Anne had normal, teenage-girl (hetero)sexual stuff in her diary that her father removed or toned down in the published version. Somehow, somebody got a hold of the unexpurgated version and restored that stuff.
----------------
The other side of the story is that Anne's father added to her diary using a ball point pen to spice things up. Ball point pens were not a thing until after WWII. The diary made Anne's father very wealthy.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 04, 2023 09:02 AM (Wg6v7)

279 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h
NEW: More than a thousand migrants rode atop a freight train to the edge of the US border on Tuesday after dodging authorities on a 10-day journey through Mexico.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 04, 2023 09:00 AM (krqg6)



How, exactly, does 1000 people on top of a train 'dodge authorities?'

Answer: They don't. They're allowed through unabated because it's NOT ABOUT LAWS or border enforcement.

It's all about the destruction of The United States and the ending of freedom on Earth.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 09:02 AM (Zz0t1)

280 Curious to see the variety of seething coming from the Barack Odildo/Dubya Bush ass-sucking crowd (Romney/Turtle/Perino/Pence/Rove/Cheney, et al). Will they act now as brazenly as has always acted the vile screaming children of Hell that has composes the Left??

Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & Country-Club GOPe at October 04, 2023 09:02 AM (5uy7A)

281 Yep. We've been under attack since 2020. Time to pay the Junta back. If you haven't the balls for this then you haven't the balls.

Oh, Kevin's got the balls. Trust me.

Posted by: Frank Luntz at October 04, 2023 09:02 AM (14zHW)

282 Was there a St. Francis of a BCC?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 09:02 AM (xTRSc)

283 "weakening of GOP's political capital"

LOL

Posted by: JROD at October 04, 2023 09:03 AM (IlL6s)

284 277 The Republicans keep following the GOPe and Bushies right into irrelevance. Old man Bush lost after one term and W left office unpopular leading to Obama and then the tea party which eventually gave us Trump. The GOPe still thinks the Dems are "our good friends across the aisle" and not revolutionary Marxist psychos.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 04, 2023 09:02 AM (gZYFY)

They know full well what the Democrats are because they are fully onboard with their program.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 04, 2023 09:03 AM (KSNKu)

285 >> Listened to Newt on Hannity call the 8 Rs who sided with Ds to boot McCarthy "traitors."



Oh, a "gang of 8" siding with the Dems on legislation is now considered traitorous?!?

Someone exhume sainted maverick John McCain and scold him for all the times he did just this, to MSM/DNC accolades.

Regardless of one's opinion on Gaetz's action, don't expect any of us to suddenly be scandalized by the sh#t the GOPe has been pulling for decades. Eat it, Newt, eat all of it.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2023 09:04 AM (izj35)

286 Was there a St. Francis of a BCC?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus


Only the sender knows.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2023 09:04 AM (aqRb8)

287 We have to take our victories where we can. Gaetz and Trump are a push back. Small to start with but at least a move in the correct direction instead of simply putting the brakes on the move inexorably towards authoritarians with emotional incontinence.

But yeah, it's getting frustrating.

Posted by: Drunken Yoda at October 04, 2023 09:04 AM (dVNUZ)

288 My brain is rotting as I wait on my dental appointment. The Today Show is on.

These Statist/Socialist mouthpieces only get more painful.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 04, 2023 09:04 AM (68HCl)

289 273 Today is The Feast Day of St. Francis of Assisi.🐕‍🦺🐈🦜
Posted by: redridinghood

///

I believe my mother used to have me pray to him for causes. Bad memory?

Posted by: JM in Illinois at October 04, 2023 09:04 AM (eacvM)

290 In all of this drama, I can't actually seem to figure out why McCarthy DIDN'T deliver on his promise to the Freedom Caucus (or at least his likely lame excuse). Was it because the donor class Republicans decided that they just wanted more CR nonsense?
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 04, 2023 08:34 AM (HsIgq)


People can point to a budget and say "I don't like what you did there." With a CR, your congress-asshole can run on "I didn't like it but we didn't have time to look it over. Government shutdown. Not my fault."

Grifters and thieves don't want anything that can be used against them. It's the same reason they make agencies to pass laws instead of doing it themselves.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 04, 2023 09:04 AM (z99Zw)

291 Trump wouldn't be a good SoH...attention to detail and corralling legislators onto the plan is not his strong suit.

But it would be would of the most satisfying moments in political history.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2023 09:05 AM (XqcwY)

292 275 203 As soon as the world moves off the US dollar as the reserve currency, it's ballgame. That's coming.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at October 04, 2023 08:43 AM (0nfs

We are a fucking clownshow and the world knows it.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 04, 2023 09:05 AM (iupH6)

293 Betsy McCaughey:"Biden’s censorship and the fight he’s waging to continue muzzling the public — the U.S. Constitution be damned — show he’s no champion of democracy. The judges of the Fifth Circuit didn’t believe it. And you shouldn’t either."


"Americans are rejecting the [Chinese] Covid vaccine and the news of the covid-vaccine-related Nobel Prize winners."
---Biden Junta Desperate to Erase Memory of [Chinese] Covid Mandates


It's not difficult to connect the dots.

Posted by: GL at October 04, 2023 09:05 AM (5fDan)

294 If they make Trump speaker I will have to change my shorts.

Posted by: fd at October 04, 2023 09:05 AM (vFG9F)

295 They know full well what the Democrats are because they are fully onboard with their program.

That's the frustrating thing. No matter how many times the GOP shows that they are in league with the DNC, some folks are going to cling to the fiction that the two parties are opposed. The two parties have pulled the perfect con.

Posted by: Slowly, then Suddenly at October 04, 2023 09:06 AM (14zHW)

296 Newt. Sigh. Hannity. Sigh. So uninspiring.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 04, 2023 09:06 AM (NBVIP)

297 Basketball Jones > Mondaire Jones
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 08:46 AM (Zz0t1)

Too Tall Jones>>Basketball Jones > Mondaire Jones

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 04, 2023 09:06 AM (BRHaw)

298 My brain is rotting as I wait on my dental appointment. The Today Show is on.

These Statist/Socialist mouthpieces only get more painful.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 04, 2023 09:04 AM (68HCl)



I do find it funny that most Dr. offices I have been in lately have HGTV on. No news or politics.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 09:06 AM (Zz0t1)

299 What I read was that Anne had normal, teenage-girl (hetero)sexual stuff in her diary that her father removed or toned down in the published version. Somehow, somebody got a hold of the unexpurgated version and restored that stuff.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 08:59 AM (xTRSc)

I believe you can find the details on Wikidingdong. Short version is she spends a little time discovering that she's a girl by taking a real hard look at her vagoo and then wondering how men get in and babies come out. Purely innocent, if a little graphic. The rest of the edits are Anne bitching and moaning about her mother. Papa Frank felt these were the kinds of things the public didn't need to be privy to. Understandable. If she hadn't been murdered by the Nazis she'd have died from embarrassment.

Posted by: Robert at October 04, 2023 09:06 AM (0a7EK)

300 294 If they make Trump speaker I will have to change my shorts.
Posted by: fd at October 04, 2023 09:05 AM (vFG9F)

Imagine Trump sitting beside Kamala, laughing at Biden as he slurs through the SOTU.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 04, 2023 09:07 AM (KSNKu)

301 298 When I'm the only person in the waiting room, I unplug the TV. Yeccchh.

Posted by: gp's Chocolate Covered Ballot Drops at October 04, 2023 09:07 AM (MvF+J)

302 Trump wouldn't be a good SoH...attention to detail and corralling legislators onto the plan is not his strong suit.

But it would be would of the most satisfying moments in political history.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2023 09:05 AM (XqcwY)
******5
Anybody suggesting this has lost their mind.
Trump can't even campaign because the Democrats have him in the courtroom daily.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2023 09:08 AM (NpAcC)

303
NEW: Congressman Greg Steube, Congressman Troy Nehls and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene endorse Donald Trump for House Speaker after McCarthy's removal
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 04, 2023 08:58 AM (krqg6)


Troy Nehls is my representative. Good man, but he's not getting anywhere with this. Half the GOP caucus wants Trump ground up for dog meat.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2023 09:08 AM (MoZTd)

304 "McCarthy failed to deliver on the key objective, which was the budget, and the third condition - the one he had to agree to as a part of the vote that made him Speaker - came into effect the moment that the intra-party opposition decided it should.

Well, the opposition decided it should. McCarthy bet wrong."

Bullshit. All the votes in the separate budget bills were either already made or being scheduled. They ran out of time because of scheduling. Nobody thought it would take this amount of time and Democrats were gumming up the process. That's why a short term CR was needed and most of the Freedom Caucus agreed. So did McCarthy and that's why he brought their CR to the floor. And the Clown Car 8 voted against that CR. That's how we ended up with the 45 shit CR. They've got three more bills and amendments to vote on before that CR expires. But now since these shitbags decided to back Gaetz in his personal vendetta we probably won't make that date. Which means another shit sandwich for the party. O can't even put into words how foolish and selfish this whole thing is. This is the garbage that loses elections and I hope whoever takes over runs the caucus like Attila the Hun.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 04, 2023 09:08 AM (8Voqu)

305 If they make Trump speaker I will have to change my shorts.
Posted by: fd

So true.

Posted by: Jerry Nadler at October 04, 2023 09:08 AM (iupH6)

306 I thought Newt's Contract with America was brilliant. Too bad it ended being a damp squib.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 09:08 AM (xTRSc)

307 *The Today Show is on.*

People still watch TV?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 04, 2023 09:09 AM (NBVIP)

308 I believe you can find the details on Wikidingdong. Short version is she spends a little time discovering that she's a girl by taking a real hard look at her vagoo and then wondering how men get in and babies come out.

Yeah yeah national socialists murdered her in the name of their perverted science or something but you are censoring the real meaning of her journal by silencing her vajajay!

Posted by: The left at October 04, 2023 09:09 AM (XqcwY)

309 Regardless of one's opinion on Gaetz's action, don't expect any of us to suddenly be scandalized by the sh#t the GOPe has been pulling for decades. Eat it, Newt, eat all of it.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2023 09:04 AM (izj35)

"They "are so afraid of upsetting the proverbial apple cart that they s**t themselves at the thought of confronting the Dems

Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2023 09:09 AM (bs+z0)

310 $33 Trillion in debt! The dollar is losing value. The BRICS nation are turning away from the dollar. Bankruptcy can come at us very fast.

But in Washington, the band plays on.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at October 04, 2023 08:15 AM (OQN3I)
++++
And none of that will change. The band will play on until absolutely *can't* play on anymore.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:18 AM (t0OGg)
==
Yep the debt is a big number, and some desire to realize it cannot continue is important. But are we willing to pony up the additional medicare tax to pay for the problem. And are we willing to say the last two covid $$ giveaways were stupid and unnecessary.

As for the rest, that's just silly. The dollar is fine, BRICS were always a pipe dream and the extended version of it is even dumber. The US economy is the strongest, most productive and most innovative body on the planet. It is more valuable than any other tangible thing. As we move to eliminate our policing of global sea lanes it will be only stronger in comparison. With that as an anchor, the dollar is king and will continue to be the king.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 04, 2023 09:09 AM (GZYu7)

311 NEW: Congressman Greg Steube, Congressman Troy Nehls and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene endorse Donald Trump for House Speaker after McCarthy's removal
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 04, 2023 08:58 AM (krqg6)

Troy Nehls is my representative. Good man, but he's not getting anywhere with this. Half the GOP caucus wants Trump ground up for dog meat.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2023 09:08 AM (MoZTd)
******
I like these three, but this is dumb.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2023 09:10 AM (NpAcC)

312 Conservative: Great job, Rep Gaetz. Now what?

Gaetz: Now what what? Didn't you see all those reporters following me around last night?

Conservative: No, I mean, how do we run the House and try to take over the whole government in 2024? Who can we elect as speaker?

Gatez: Not my problem Bro. I got 75K new followers. You deal with it.

Posted by: Candidus at October 04, 2023 09:10 AM (Zc7Fe)

313 Here's the argument: "Matt Gaetz is shameful for standing with the Democrats! Every one of us is honor bound to defend McCarthy for standing with the Democrats!"

It's not the co-operation that's at issue - it's whether or not the co-operation benefits the GOP.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 04, 2023 09:10 AM (0FoWg)

314 306 I thought Newt's Contract with America was brilliant. Too bad it ended being a damp squib.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 09:08 AM (xTRSc)


Turned into the Contract ON America.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 09:10 AM (x0n13)

315 "They "are so afraid of upsetting the proverbial apple cart that they s**t themselves at the thought of confronting the Dems

Because they can't risk their precious political capital. Funny. The DNC seems to have a limitless amount of political capital. But the GOP must be extremely careful, and only fight the perfect battle. Sadly, such perfection has not yet been found.

Posted by: Slowly, then Suddenly at October 04, 2023 09:11 AM (14zHW)

316 Late to the thread, but hopefully someone has already pointed out that McCarthy is the reason it costs an additional $1000 per month just to live, and why 50% of American families can't afford a car or qualify for the loan is because of McCarthy.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2023 09:12 AM (4wSsa)

317 Why don't we nationalize Blackrock as a starting position and see how it goes?

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 04, 2023 09:13 AM (Wg6v7)

318 312 Posted by: Candidus at October 04, 2023 09:10 AM (Zc7Fe)


Before one can rebuild, one must dismantle.

Thanks for your glib insight, though.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 09:13 AM (x0n13)

319 LORD this place is schizophrenic at times.

I seem to remember a lot of McCarthy hate during his speakership vote.

Now he's gone and Gaetz is the selfish, egotistical asshole for ousting him.

What ARE you people, on DOPE?!?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 09:13 AM (Zz0t1)

320 Some people: Why don't these Republicans ever fight for any of our goals? I mean...just do it!!!

Those same people: Ok this Gaetz guy fought on something. Great. But he doesn't have a plan he's shared with us to fix everything so obviously he's an asshole.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2023 09:13 AM (XqcwY)

321 "How, exactly, does 1000 people on top of a train 'dodge authorities?'

Answer: They don't. They're allowed through unabated because it's NOT ABOUT LAWS or border enforcement.

Posted by: Sponge"

None of this secret or hidden from view. They are given fist bumps, shelter and a bus ticker here by our border security. They are probably cheered in Mexico like an army headed to the front.

Posted by: Ripley at October 04, 2023 09:13 AM (JojsZ)

322 "He's Luntz's butt boy!"

"But he's OUR Luntz's butt boy! LEAVE HIM ALONE!"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 09:14 AM (Zz0t1)

323 The US government pays NGO to find volunteers in latin America. Then the NGOs pay to send them north. Then the NGOs pay to fight to keep them here.

Meanwhile the government claims it can't stop the illegals they paid to bring here.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2023 09:15 AM (XqcwY)

324 Late to the thread, but hopefully someone has already pointed out that McCarthy is the reason it costs an additional $1000 per month just to live, and why 50% of American families can't afford a car or qualify for the loan is because of McCarthy.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2023 09:12 AM (4wSsa)



But Gaetz is an egotistical media whore!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 09:15 AM (Zz0t1)

325 I remember Gaetz as the voting for the Speaker was going on, and on, and on. At one point, it was like Gaetz was warning McCarthy, I will hold your hands to the fire if you become a RINO. McCarthy understood and finally he was elected. Yesterday, his hands said hello to the fire. Kudos to you, Mr. Gaetz.

Posted by: sidney at October 04, 2023 09:15 AM (Uy/WF)

326 I don't care I'm happy today

maybe we're FINALLY seeing some fight? a stand taken! FOR ONCE!

you guys can navel gaze I'm thinking a tide is finally fucking turning

and btw - news flash - EITHER WAY OUR ECONOMY IS IN THE TOILET

a hot mess of a black swan is coming, and coming very very soon

things are gonna get interesting

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2023 09:15 AM (AcWfM)

327 Bullshit. All the votes in the separate budget bills were either already made or being scheduled. They ran out of time because of scheduling. Nobody thought it would take this amount of time and Democrats were gumming up the process. That's why a short term CR was needed and most of the Freedom Caucus agreed. ...
Posted by: Marcus T at October 04, 2023 09:08 AM (8Voqu)
++++
So, they capitulated. Yes, I agree.

So the Democrats "gummed up the works?" They "ran out of time?" They mismanaged the schedule? McCarthy's *job* was to predict and manage those conditions. Barring the ability to overcome those conditions, his job was to let the sucker shut down until he got what he demanded - and what he promised to his caucus in exchange for his job.

McCarthy failed. He failed either because he did not want to succeed and was comfortable in the assumption that, like always, there would be no accountability or he failed because he was incompetent or he failed because he lacks courage. He is either duplicitous, incapable or he is a coward. Any of those justify his removal.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 09:15 AM (t0OGg)

328 Trillion in debt! The dollar is losing value. The BRICS nation are turning away from the dollar. Bankruptcy can come at us very fast.

But in Washington, the band plays on.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at October 04, 2023 08:15 AM (OQN3I)
++++

And none of that will change. The band will play on until absolutely *can't* play on anymore.

-

Want to see something neat?

Go look at Rules for Radicals. Apparently this is all part of the plan.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2023 09:16 AM (4wSsa)

329 Conservative: Great job, Rep Gaetz. Now what?

Gaetz: Now what what? Didn't you see all those reporters following me around last night?

Conservative: No, I mean, how do we run the House and try to take over the whole government in 2024? Who can we elect as speaker?

Gatez: Not my problem Bro. I got 75K new followers. You deal with it.

Posted by: Candidus at October 04, 2023 09:10 AM (Zc7Fe)
*******
Not necessarily a fan of McCarthy, but Gaetz has annoyed me for a long time.
He defended Katie Hill and is a littler too palsy with Jayapal and AOC.
I just don't trust him.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2023 09:16 AM (NpAcC)

330 I'm going to soak my cat in holy water today. He's yowling like a lunatic all morning.

Posted by: Paulie bag a' donuts at October 04, 2023 09:16 AM (hTMd7)

331 Those same people: Ok this Gaetz guy fought on something. Great. But he doesn't have a plan he's shared with us to fix everything so obviously he's an asshole.

Imagine watching a football game with them. "OK, fine, so you gained five yards on first down. But we've still got 75 yards to go !!! We're doomed !!!".

Posted by: Slowly, then Suddenly at October 04, 2023 09:16 AM (14zHW)

332 LORD this place is schizophrenic at times.

I seem to remember a lot of McCarthy hate during his speakership vote.

Now he's gone and Gaetz is the selfish, egotistical asshole for ousting him.

What ARE you people, on DOPE?!?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Bi

The Meth is good this am!

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 04, 2023 09:16 AM (CIS44)

333 LORD this place is schizophrenic at times.

I seem to remember a lot of McCarthy hate during his speakership vote.

Now he's gone and Gaetz is the selfish, egotistical asshole for ousting him.

What ARE you people, on DOPE?!?


Perhaps everyone was just tired of T vs D.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2023 09:16 AM (I/Qkd)

334 For what its worth, I dropped my Republican voter registration in 2014 and have been an independent ever since.

I just don't see any semblance of an effort at an organized, sane opposition to this nonsense outside of the GOP.
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 04, 2023 08:43 AM (ufjoC)


Independent means two things:

1. You have no personal means to affect the state of the GOP.
2. You are part of the large mass of voters without an organization.

Frankly, causing people to become disaffected the leave the GOP was probably the first step in the uniparty's effort to gain control.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 04, 2023 09:17 AM (z99Zw)

335 325 I remember Gaetz as the voting for the Speaker was going on, and on, and on. At one point, it was like Gaetz was warning McCarthy, I will hold your hands to the fire if you become a RINO. McCarthy understood and finally he was elected. Yesterday, his hands said hello to the fire. Kudos to you, Mr. Gaetz.


well said Sidney that's how I recall it as well

by the way - "the admin is scrambling to assure Yakov Uke that he's still getting tons of money soon"?!?! in case you were WONDERING if he is extorting our govt there you go

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2023 09:17 AM (AcWfM)

336 Before one can rebuild, one must dismantle.

Thanks for your glib insight, though.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 09:13 AM (x0n13)

Who would wanna diss Mickey ?

Posted by: JT at October 04, 2023 09:17 AM (T4tVD)

337 314 306 I thought Newt's Contract with America was brilliant. Too bad it ended being a damp squib.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 09:08 AM (xTRSc)


Turned into the Contract ON America.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 09:10 AM (x0n13)
==================
What? It ended with a balanced budget in regular order in 2000-2001.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 09:17 AM (JgqvA)

338 Perhaps everyone was just tired of T vs D.

I'm down for the D for the record

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 04, 2023 09:17 AM (XqcwY)

339 Before one can rebuild, one must dismantle.
osted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 09:13 AM (x0n13)

Before one can rebuild, one must have a plan.

What is the plan? Besides getting clicks?

Posted by: Candidus at October 04, 2023 09:17 AM (Zc7Fe)

340 Meanwhile, Trump heading to the courthouse of another day.
F the Democrats.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 04, 2023 09:18 AM (NpAcC)

341 Ok this Gaetz guy fought on something. Great. But he doesn't have a plan he's shared with us to fix everything so obviously he's an asshole.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2023 09:13 AM (XqcwY)

I nearly blew a gasket last night watching coverage of this on fox, i know but it's what the mrs likes to watch...

jessie was going on and on about how there was no plan and smirking his way through the report in his typical fashion. and he had stephen miller on who left his caps lock on, and was complaining about how the gop doesn't moe as a single unit like the dems, then let out that there's a bunch of moderates that keep holding them back, while attacking gaetz for this.

Them the smarmy cocksucker says that one of the appropriation bills was canned over 2.5 billion dollars and why didn't the conservative wing just give in on the 2.5B and move on to the next fight.

no one asked, why didn't the moderates give UP the 2.5B and move on to the next fight?

why is it that we ALWAYS have to give in?

THIS is why i'm glad gaetz did what he did.

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 04, 2023 09:18 AM (nXhwP)

342 >>*To my recollection, we never were told which contractor firms were querying the NSA dbs

Neustar, Georgia Tech data researchers, Rodney Joffe, a few others. DARPA was there way in.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2023 09:18 AM (ZLI7S)

343 Not necessarily a fan of McCarthy, but Gaetz has annoyed me for a long time.
He defended Katie Hill and is a littler too palsy with Jayapal and AOC.
I just don't trust him.


I don't trust him, or any pol. I only look at what they've done. This whole thing could go south, but it was going there anyway under the GOPe, so at least now there's some semblance of change.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2023 09:18 AM (I/Qkd)

344 Plans. Heh.

Posted by: Jerry Nadler at October 04, 2023 09:18 AM (iupH6)

345 Is it a movie thread yet?

Posted by: Just got here at October 04, 2023 09:18 AM (NBVIP)

346 Before one can rebuild, one must have a plan.

What is the plan? Besides getting clicks?
Posted by: Candidus at October 04, 2023 09:17 AM (Zc7Fe)


Give it a week before you set your hair on fire.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 04, 2023 09:19 AM (aD39U)

347 Before one can rebuild, one must have a plan.


oh bullshit

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2023 09:19 AM (AcWfM)

348 Meghan McCain ( . )( . ) @MeghanMcCain 16h
I didn't realize we all collectively voted Matt Gatez [sic] President of congress, senate, and all of American politics and we are all just at the mercy of his whims and tantrums.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 04, 2023 09:19 AM (krqg6)

349 There were 8 Republican Representatives that stood up and said "no, the covid-19 emergency spending levels have to stop"

Only eight.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2023 09:19 AM (4wSsa)

350 339 Before one can rebuild, one must dismantle.
osted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 09:13 AM (x0n13)

Before one can rebuild, one must have a plan.

What is the plan? Besides getting clicks?
Posted by: Candidus at October 04, 2023 09:17 AM (Zc7Fe

You do realize the state of the nation and government, do you not? I assume your advice is of the "vote harder" nature?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 09:19 AM (x0n13)

351 McCarthy failed. He failed either because he did not want to succeed and was comfortable in the assumption that, like always, there would be no accountability or he failed because he was incompetent or he failed because he lacks courage.

As was pointed out up thread, why in the Hell would you select your leadership from a congressional district in a state that is reliably Democrat ? The DNC doesn't pick leadership from Republican strongholds.

Posted by: Slowly, then Suddenly at October 04, 2023 09:19 AM (14zHW)

352 Returning to normal order is a problem, but moving to multiple non-omnibus spending bills blows up established internal power systems within both parties and chambers. Absolutely *nobody* with serious amounts of control within the Parties wants that to happen.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

100%

Would add that it forces people to have and make priorities. Fund X but don't have enough money to fund Y - on a different appropriation bill.

It's the sunlight that these folks don't want. Throw it all into omnibus- and it's " well, to fund X my colleagues needed Y funding"

See, everyone wins and we call it bipartisanship. Win/ win.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 04, 2023 09:19 AM (FxH7T)

353 Hey, JJ, a few days ago, my wife put me straight on the JJ Sefton character in Stalag 17. I always thought it was the guy hiding out in the water tank. Turns out it was the William Holden character.

You learn something new every day.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 09:20 AM (xTRSc)

354 349 There were 8 Republican Representatives that stood up and said "no, the covid-19 emergency spending levels have to stop"

Only eight.


yeah because the blue states and cities desperately need that money!

things are BAD here I know some people in city govt and it is bad bad bad

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2023 09:20 AM (AcWfM)

355 As for the rest, that's just silly. The dollar is fine, BRICS were always a pipe dream and the extended version of it is even dumber. The US economy is the strongest, most productive and most innovative body on the planet. It is more valuable than any other tangible thing. As we move to eliminate our policing of global sea lanes it will be only stronger in comparison. With that as an anchor, the dollar is king and will continue to be the king.
Posted by: Black JEM at October 04, 2023 09:09 AM (GZYu7)
++++
I am not worried about the BRICS per se. I am worried about the failure of the USD as the default international settlement currency. I do think that the Dollar as "reserve currency" is on its way out. It is not on its way out because of the BRICS, but because of our actions against Russia and our out-of-control spending and associated monetary games. And when it goes, so does our ability to play "hide the inflation" by sequestering it in foreign trade flows.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 09:20 AM (t0OGg)

356 Before one can rebuild, one had to remove the arsonists and thieves from the property.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2023 09:20 AM (4wSsa)

357 LORD this place is schizophrenic at times.

I seem to remember a lot of McCarthy hate during his speakership vote.

Now he's gone and Gaetz is the selfish, egotistical asshole for ousting him.

What ARE you people, on DOPE?!?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 09:13 AM (Zz0t1)
=================
Still hate McCarthy...just not sure Matt Gaetz is trustworthy either.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 09:20 AM (JgqvA)

358 339
Posted by: Candidus at October 04, 2023 09:17 AM (Zc7Fe


Love how you rag on Gaetz but totally ignore the GOP's combined failures since Eisenhower.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 09:20 AM (x0n13)

359 $33 Trillion in debt! The dollar is losing value. The BRICS nation are turning away from the dollar. Bankruptcy can come at us very fast.

But in Washington, the band plays on.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at October 04, 2023 08:15 AM (OQN3I)


Every time Joe publicly pats himself on the back for Bidenomics, one of his sales points is his programs will reduce the national debt by a Trillion Dollars. Over the NEXT TEN YEARS.

Joe never ever mentions the amount of the national debt. Some of the rubes might figure out they are being conned by Joe with his cherry-picked statistics and numbers.

Posted by: GL at October 04, 2023 09:20 AM (5fDan)

360 349 There were 8 Republican Representatives that stood up and said "no, the covid-19 emergency spending levels have to stop"

Only eight.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2023 09:19 AM (4wSsa)

I can't help but think this was planned and certain Republicans were allowed to vote to oust McCarthy letting the others off the hook...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2023 09:20 AM (bs+z0)

361 You do realize the state of the nation and government, do you not? I assume your advice is of the "vote harder" nature?

My advice is more of the 'don't spend all day stomping on your own dick'.

Posted by: Candidus at October 04, 2023 09:21 AM (Zc7Fe)

362 Before one can rebuild, one must dismantle.
osted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 09:13 AM (x0n13)

Before one can rebuild, one must have a plan.

What is the plan? Besides getting clicks?


Step 1: Destroy the impediments to progress, and clear away the rubble.
Step 2: Make sure the surviving impediments witnessed step 1, and understand they'll join the destroyed if they don't shape up.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2023 09:21 AM (I/Qkd)

363 There's apparently a lot of angst over Gaetz' apparent move against McCarthy. Some are claiming McCarthy was working "in good faith" but was constricted by House rules.

Fine

But those things did not stop Nancy Pelosi from running the House Democrats, and to a large degree, Republicans as well, with an iron fist.

One of those Republicans she "ran" was apparently McCarthy. That there are nominal Republicans (both in office and supporters) that seem to be oblivious to the problem this presents is significant.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 04, 2023 09:21 AM (Q4IgG)

364 things are BAD here I know some people in city govt and it is bad bad bad

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So the government employees who didn't have to work are telling you it's bad?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2023 09:21 AM (4wSsa)

365 McCarthy didn't do what he promised, and he's out on his ass.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 08:02 AM (t0OGg)

Exactly. He decided to call the Freedom Caucuses' bluff and found out they weren't bluffing. This is entirely McCarthy's fault.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 04, 2023 09:21 AM (nC+QA)

366 Meghan McCain ( . )( . ) @MeghanMcCain 16h
I didn't realize we all collectively voted Matt Gatez [sic] President of congress, senate, and all of American politics and we are all just at the mercy of his whims and tantrums.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 04, 2023 09:19 AM (krqg6)



Oh f*ck off, backfat.

He required a few things before McCarthy was voted speaker. McCarthy failed. It's called accountability, you fat, fake tited whore.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 09:22 AM (Zz0t1)

367
in case you were WONDERING if he is extorting our govt there you go

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2023 09:17 AM


The only way to take the power away from the extortionist is too reveal what he is hiding. Which is why an impeachment 'inquiry' is so important. When it's all out in the open you tell Z to sit the hell down, shut the fvck up, and accept defeat. You lost some land. Learn from it.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 04, 2023 09:22 AM (enJYY)

368 When Newt G let the SoH the budget was $2T.

The Reps have controlled the House for most of the years since then and the budget is now...$7T or something absurd like that.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2023 09:22 AM (XqcwY)

369 >>Neustar, Georgia Tech data researchers, Rodney Joffe, a few others. DARPA was there way in.
Posted by: JackStraw

Thanks!!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2023 09:22 AM (izj35)

370 Not to worry, in the Senate stands McConnell like a Stone Wall.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 04, 2023 09:22 AM (Wg6v7)

371 "Before one can rebuild, one must dismantle."

Before one can rebuild, one must first get a little high.

Posted by: Towlie at October 04, 2023 09:22 AM (MvF+J)

372 Still hate McCarthy...just not sure Matt Gaetz is trustworthy either.


well DUH he's a politician! you shouldn't trust a single one of them! wtf

if they do things to help, support that. when they don't do a thing to help us, and seemingly always hurt us, you punish that. it's our duty as voters if we give a single shit about this country as founded! not to sit around noodling and writing freaking essays

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2023 09:22 AM (AcWfM)

373 Wonderful that Gaetz and his supporters have stood for virtue! Of course, the difference between leftist virtue signaling and GOP virtue signaling is that leftist virtue signaling doesn’t usually involve fratricide and suicide.

Posted by: Durak Kazyol at October 04, 2023 09:23 AM (XlZ2m)

374 370 Not to worry, in the Senate stands McConnell like a Stone Wall.
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 04, 2023 09:22 AM (Wg6v7

Come to think of it he does remind me of one of those Easter Island heads

Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2023 09:23 AM (bs+z0)

375 =================
Still hate McCarthy...just not sure Matt Gaetz is trustworthy either.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 09:20 AM (JgqvA)



NO ONE in DC is trustworthy at the level of average American citizen. But, when there's accountability doled out, we shouldn't piss on it. My thought, anyway.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 09:23 AM (Zz0t1)

376 My favorite part of the decline and fall of Kevin McCarthy is how he was betrayed by his Donk good buddies. Yes, once again, Lucy has pulled the football away.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 04, 2023 09:23 AM (FVME7)

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at October 04, 2023 09:24 AM (aD39U)

378 Even if it's pissing in the wind, Make something happen. Saying we're mad as hell! How could it be any worse? Go Gaetz!

Posted by: AnnaS at October 04, 2023 09:24 AM (FnSbk)

379 He required a few things before McCarthy was voted speaker. McCarthy failed. It's called accountability, you fat, fake tited whore.



I doubt that anything on that woman is fake. It looks like the 100% natural product of the metabolism of donuts to me.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 09:24 AM (xTRSc)

380 Iirc we've printed $3T since May.

That's why families are hurting. That's on McCarthy.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2023 09:24 AM (4wSsa)

381 Meghan McCain jumping on Gaetz. Shouldn't she be out hunting truffles?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 04, 2023 09:24 AM (gZYFY)

382 381 Meghan McCain jumping on Gaetz. Shouldn't she be out hunting truffles?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 04, 2023 09:24 AM (gZYFY

Oh... That's mean.... I laughed

Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2023 09:24 AM (bs+z0)

383 >>@MeghanMcCain: I didn't realize we all collectively voted Matt Gatez [sic] President of congress, senate, and all of American politics and we are all just at the mercy of his whims and tantrums.


Oh shut up, sugartits.
Of all the people to complain about this is old maverick's idiot daughter. Your dad made quite a career out of working with the Democrats to stab his party in the back.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2023 09:24 AM (izj35)

384 The best thing to come out of the CR process would have been real serious cuts in discretionary spending...and the end of COVID/Ukraine spending.

The next best outcome would be the House passing budget bills for non-controversial things like the VA and let the Dems "shut down" the government over COVID/Ukraine spending.

The worst outcome, which McCarthy gave us, was giving the Dems all their spending goals.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2023 09:25 AM (XqcwY)

385 It is not on its way out because of the BRICS, but because of our actions against Russia and our out-of-control spending and associated monetary games. ['/i]

Caucasian, please. Our actions against Russia have NOTHING to do with this.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2023 09:25 AM (I/Qkd)

386 It's got a great beat and you can dance to it!

Carpe Donktum🔹 @CarpeDonktum 15h
Just because...
#KevinMcCarthy

https://tinyurl.com/2mryfz4m
33 seconds music video!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 04, 2023 09:25 AM (krqg6)

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2023 09:25 AM (I/Qkd)

388 Is Candidus greek or latin for stepping on ones dick?

Posted by: JROD at October 04, 2023 09:25 AM (IlL6s)

389 What ARE you people, on DOPE?!?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 09:13 AM


And Sponge, channeling his inner Mr. Hand.

Righteous!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2023 09:25 AM (FVJNG)

390 What we are seeing is Yankee Land collapsing. Its been collapsing since 1969. Now the question is 'how many times will it bounce before becoming dead?'

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 04, 2023 09:25 AM (Wg6v7)

391 361 You do realize the state of the nation and government, do you not? I assume your advice is of the "vote harder" nature?

My advice is more of the 'don't spend all day stomping on your own dick'.
Posted by: Candidus at October 04, 2023 09:21 AM (Zc7Fe)


So what you're advocating is to let Kevin McCarthy remain as Speaker and do exactly like Boehner and Ryan, i.e. cooperate with the Dems as they dismantle the nation with zero pushback?

Wonderful idea!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 09:26 AM (x0n13)

392 disappointed again in Reynolds today. I think Instapundit has totally lost any interest

he's in academia. has a steady job in a nice red state. he will never get it.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2023 09:26 AM (AcWfM)

393 >>But those things did not stop Nancy Pelosi from running the House Democrats, and to a large degree, Republicans as well, with an iron fist.

While I don't disagree that Democrats move in a collective I think that has less to do with Nancy than it does to the state of mind of the current Democrat party. They almost never break ranks anywhere, not just the House. And it's largely because they are in the business of tearing down not building. A lot easier to be unified when you are only concerned with destruction.

We are just now starting to see a little disunity starting with Democrat mayors and governors because chickens and roosting over illegals but that only happens when a plan blows up on them and they are forced to state the obvious. Other than that they remain extremely unified from dog catcher to POTUS. Like good communists.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2023 09:26 AM (ZLI7S)

394 Is Candidus greek or latin for stepping on ones dick?



I thought it was more of a problem for the birthing people.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 09:26 AM (xTRSc)

395 Is Candidus greek or latin for stepping on ones dick?
Posted by: JROD at October 04, 2023 09:25 AM


I think it's Latin for that S. American dick catfish.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2023 09:26 AM (FVJNG)

396 As for the rest, that's just silly. The dollar is fine, BRICS were always a pipe dream and the extended version of it is even dumber. The US economy is the strongest, most productive and most innovative body on the planet. It is more valuable than any other tangible thing. As we move to eliminate our policing of global sea lanes it will be only stronger in comparison. With that as an anchor, the dollar is king and will continue to be the king.
Posted by: Black JEM at October 04, 2023 09:09 AM (GZYu7)

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I wish this was true. Brazil, Russia, Iran, China, South Africa. Combined GDP $28 Trillion. US GDP (2021) $23 Trillion. BRICS countries working on a common currency. America has outsourced so much manufacturing, it is nowhere near as "productive" as in the past, despite its GDP.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at October 04, 2023 09:26 AM (sOkXM)

397 I wonder how the GOPe feels about Democrats not saving McCarthy with even 3 measly votes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at October 04, 2023 09:26 AM (LvTSG)

398 Even if it's pissing in the wind, Make something happen. Saying we're mad as hell! How could it be any worse? Go Gaetz!

Exactly. I want those a***oles in DC wondering what their crazy base will do next, and fear our wrath.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2023 09:26 AM (I/Qkd)

399
I doubt that anything on that woman is fake. It looks like the 100% natural product of the metabolism of donuts to me.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 09:24 AM (xTRSc)



She has fake tits. Or did at one point. Haven't seen her in a while.

https://is.gd/APAeSz

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 09:26 AM (Zz0t1)

400 390 What we are seeing is Yankee Land collapsing. Its been collapsing since 1969. Now the question is 'how many times will it bounce before becoming dead?'


I love this take, Puddinhead! You have a great point that people are gonna hate a lot.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2023 09:26 AM (AcWfM)

401 He also recently referred to American Catholic conservatives as “backward.”

Sounds like what a lot of religious leaders in mianstream denominations do as well. One Bishop of ours said "We don't need Evangelicals." Thanks a lot, buddy!/s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2023 09:27 AM (RSbhh)

402 388 Is Candidus greek or latin for stepping on ones dick?
Posted by: JROD at October 04, 2023 09:25 AM (IlL6s)


Not Candida Royale, but more like candida auris.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 09:27 AM (x0n13)

403 I think Candidus is a song by Tony Orlando and Dawn

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 04, 2023 09:27 AM (gZYFY)

404 >>Not to worry, in the Senate stands McConnell like a Stone Wall.

Have they sworn in that Maryland resident to represent California in the Senate yet?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2023 09:27 AM (izj35)

405 JJ, early this monning in NYC, a left-winger had a tragic encounter with a thug.

https://tinyurl.com/akfntywx

A left wing activist who was stabbed to death in New York City while waiting at a bus stop with his girlfriend, had just spent the evening prior with his partner at a wedding.

Ryan Carson, 32, was stabbed in the chest multiple times, and the blade pierced his heart, during the unprovoked attack at 4am near Lafayette Avenue and Malcolm X Boulevard in Brooklyn.

Posted by: GL at October 04, 2023 09:27 AM (5fDan)

406
And Sponge, channeling his inner Mr. Hand.

Righteous!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 04, 2023 09:25 AM (FVJNG)



Get off my lawn.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 09:27 AM (Zz0t1)

407 397 I wonder how the GOPe feels about Democrats not saving McCarthy with even 3 measly votes.


I don't know about those asshats, but I feel GREAT about it! I love me some clarity.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2023 09:27 AM (AcWfM)

408 Meghan McCain ( . )( . ) @MeghanMcCain 16h
I didn't realize we all collectively voted Matt Gatez [sic] President of congress, senate, and all of American politics and we are all just at the mercy of his whims and tantrums.
Posted by: andycanuck


How does she have time to comments about politics? Shouldn't she be busy with her fathers funeral?

Posted by: Ripley at October 04, 2023 09:28 AM (JojsZ)

409 Candidus? Candidthem!

Posted by: gp's Creme-Filled Ballot Drops at October 04, 2023 09:28 AM (MvF+J)

410 Ryan Carson, 32, was stabbed in the chest multiple times, and the blade pierced his heart, during the unprovoked attack at 4am near Lafayette Avenue and Malcolm X Boulevard in Brooklyn.


he saw the guy breaking into a car to rob it and WENT OVER TO HIM wtf

you live in NYC (or Philly). you see something like that you go as fast as you can away from that

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2023 09:28 AM (AcWfM)

411 I doubt that anything on that woman is fake. It looks like the 100% natural product of the metabolism of donuts to me.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 09:24 AM (xTRSc)


She has fake tits. Or did at one point. Haven't seen her in a while.

https://is.gd/APAeSz



Why would a chick that fat need to get fake boobs? Wow.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 09:28 AM (xTRSc)

412 Of course, the difference between leftist virtue signaling and GOP virtue signaling is that leftist virtue signaling doesn’t usually involve fratricide and suicide.

Sure they do. See the short political career of Tulsi Gabbard, for starters.

As far as the political right goes, it makes far more sense to purge the traitors from your own ranks before even attempting to confront the enemy. But that's the problem, isn't it ? Too many on the right, including too many here, focus entirely too much on assembling a large number of troops, and entirely too little on the relative worth of each of them. A big enemy is useless if it won't fight. Worse than useless if it's full of traitors.

Posted by: Slowly, then Suddenly at October 04, 2023 09:28 AM (14zHW)

413 The ones who did not vote to oust kevin have made the list.

Looking at you bobert and mtg.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 09:28 AM (xVkS/)

414 I wonder how the GOPe feels about Democrats not saving McCarthy with even 3 measly votes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searchi

Help us get just 3 more seats. Donate Today! 5X Match!
-GOPe

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 04, 2023 09:28 AM (CIS44)

415 Not Candida Royale

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I understand this reference. What a great time to discover what made women special.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2023 09:29 AM (4wSsa)

416 401 He also recently referred to American Catholic conservatives as “backward.”


did he now?

I wish we were backward enough to do to him what God would will for an antiPope

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2023 09:29 AM (AcWfM)

417
Art is up.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 09:29 AM (x0n13)

418 How, exactly, does 1000 people on top of a train 'dodge authorities?'

Answer: They don't. They're allowed through unabated because it's NOT ABOUT LAWS or border enforcement.

Posted by: Sponge"
++++
Border patrol are like Wal Mart greeters. They just say hello to the illegals and welcome them to the country.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at October 04, 2023 09:29 AM (dr4Q1)

419
Why would a chick that fat need to get fake boobs? Wow.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2023 09:28 AM (xTRSc)



Maybe she was one of those anomalies that was fat as shit and no boobs. A freak of nature, if you will.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 09:29 AM (Zz0t1)

420 So what you're advocating is to let Kevin McCarthy remain as Speaker and do exactly like Boehner and Ryan, i.e. cooperate with the Dems...

It was Gaetz, a handful of his allies (Nancy Mace), and EVERY SINGLE Democrat who ousted McCarthy yesterday.

Gaetz plus the Democrats. Who are dancing in the streets this morning.

Posted by: Candidus at October 04, 2023 09:29 AM (Zc7Fe)

421 Looking at you bobert and mtg.

I sentence them to a penance of lingerie pillow fighting.

Posted by: Some Moron at October 04, 2023 09:29 AM (XqcwY)

422 On Sept. 29 Comrade Vladimir Putin gave an address to an assembly of Latin American legislators in which he effusively praised Fidel Castro, Che Guevara, and Salvador Allende as warriors for social justice, affirmed Russia’s continuing support for their struggle, and touted Russia’s recent investments in Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, and Bolivia as examples. You can find the English translation on the Kremlin dot ru website, but I’m sure it’s more edifying to simply quote Carl Tuckerson on why Russia is justified in invading Ukraine

Posted by: Durak Kazyol at October 04, 2023 09:30 AM (XlZ2m)

423 414 Help us get just 3 more seats. Donate Today! 5X Match!
-GOPe
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 04, 2023 09:28 AM (CIS44)

=======

It needs to be said again:

Kevin McCarthy worked to limit GOP gains in 2022. He actively worked to undermine GOP candidates for House seats, limiting his majority, making it even easier for someone like Gaetz to do what he did.

A larger majority with more people reliant on McCarthy for re-election money makes McCarthy more secure, not less. But McCarthy didn't do that because he's a master tactician and we all just don't understand, or something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at October 04, 2023 09:30 AM (LvTSG)

424 It's important that Democrats get everything they want so that Republicans don't appear weak.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2023 09:30 AM (4wSsa)

425 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2023 09:30 AM (Zz0t1)

426 Gaetz plus the Democrats. Who are dancing in the streets this morning.
Posted by: Candidus at October 04, 2023 09:29 AM (Zc7Fe)


As am I.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 04, 2023 09:30 AM (aD39U)

427 Art is up.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 09:29 AM (x0n13)

Back to the grassy knoll everyone! C'mon JFK.

Posted by: Candidus at October 04, 2023 09:31 AM (Zc7Fe)

428 I thought the dems all understood that the plan was to collapse the system. Now that the illegals are causing the system to collapse, dem mayors are upset?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 04, 2023 09:31 AM (xVkS/)

429 and EVERY SINGLE Democrat who ousted McCarthy yesterday.

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Hopefully people saw that. It didn't matter what he did for them. They were going to treat him that way.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2023 09:32 AM (4wSsa)

430 Just so everyone can benchmark the "covid emergency spending" now built into the budget, the money McCarthy preserved and 8 Republicans want to eliminate, it's worth recalling the official deficit at the end of the last Obama budget was $665 Billion. Trump, last budget, was a covid-driven deficit of $2.8 trillion. Biden, last year (FY 2022) was $1.4 trillion.

Some Republicans are convinced we should return to the negative $600 billion range, but Uniparty politicians want to regard the negative trillion dollar number as their "new normal".

Hence, the battles.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 09:32 AM (41Nl3)

431 Thanks again for all the news and commentary J.J.
The morning report is the best part of AOS.

Posted by: spypeach at October 04, 2023 09:32 AM (UuB/1)

432 275 203 As soon as the world moves off the US dollar as the reserve currency, it's ballgame. That's coming.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at October 04, 2023 08:43 AM (0nfs

We are a fucking clownshow and the world knows it.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 04, 2023 09:05 AM (iupH6)
==
The world that is coming probably won't have a reserve currency as we know it today. Talk to folks who have traded with China in Yuan and see how that is working out.

SO the dollar will be the reserve currency to the extent we have one well beyond the time we are gone. But we do need to realize our credit card is running out of limit as the whole notion of global finance changes. Both Trump and Biden were a bit reckless - Biden more so than Trump. Biden's spend-a-thon isn't helping one bit at the moment.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 04, 2023 09:32 AM (GZYu7)

433 420 So what you're advocating is to let Kevin McCarthy remain as Speaker and do exactly like Boehner and Ryan, i.e. cooperate with the Dems...

It was Gaetz, a handful of his allies (Nancy Mace), and EVERY SINGLE Democrat who ousted McCarthy yesterday.

Gaetz plus the Democrats. Who are dancing in the streets this morning.
Posted by: Candidus at October 04, 2023 09:29 AM

You neglect to state the reason WHY he was ejected.

He was a failure at best and at worst a collaborator and liar. He had to go, irrespective of what supposed "after plan" you insist had to have been in place prior.

You are fundamentally unserious, sir/ma'am.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 09:32 AM (x0n13)

434 SNOOD

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 04, 2023 09:34 AM (krqg6)

435 400 390 What we are seeing is Yankee Land collapsing. Its been collapsing since 1969. Now the question is 'how many times will it bounce before becoming dead?'


I love this take, Puddinhead! You have a great point that people are gonna hate a lot.
------------------
Story of my life. Objectively, it is true. 1968 was the pivot year. We had 156 race riots in 68. There were two in the South (Atlanta and Birmingham) and two in California (Oakland and Watts) and 152 in the Northeast and Midwest. In 1969 the Yankee Exodus began and continues apace. Add the offshoring of manufacturing that took off in the 1980s and you will find a hollowed out Yankee Land importing illiterate non-English speakers for the sole purpose of maintaining political muscle to enable feasting on the blood of Flyover Americans. Not a pretty sight.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 04, 2023 09:35 AM (rRMBj)

436 Caucasian, please. Our actions against Russia have NOTHING to do with this.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2023 09:25 AM (I/Qkd)
++++
I disagree. We unilaterally ejected Russia from SWIFT, cutting them off from settlements. We unilaterally seized Russian property from international accounts and locations (including physical property). We forced major changes to international trade insurance carriers (shipping insurance, etc.) to restrict Russia's ability to protect trade activity.

In doing so, we sent a very, very clear message: at its sole discretion, the United States can restrict your management of your own currency, isolate you and drive up the costs of your trade and seize your property. It can and will do so quickly, and it can and will do so absent a state of war involving itself or an ally.

If you want to degrade confidence, this is all a great way to do it and a lot of countries have noticed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 09:35 AM (t0OGg)

437 Gaetz plus the Democrats. Who are dancing in the streets this morning.

In all fairness, I don't dance. Sure, I'm laughing at McCarthy's stupid ass, but not dancing.

Posted by: Slowly, then Suddenly at October 04, 2023 09:35 AM (14zHW)

438 Gaetz is a slimeball politician. His only plan is to aggrandize himself.

But that plan redounds to the detriment of the Republican Party, so good.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 04, 2023 09:35 AM (0FoWg)

439 438 Gaetz is a slimeball politician. His only plan is to aggrandize himself.

But that plan redounds to the detriment of the Republican Party, so good.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 04, 2023 09:35 AM (0FoWg)

========

Congress is 100% slimeball.

I'm rounding up because Rand Paul might not be a slimeball.

Might.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at October 04, 2023 09:37 AM (LvTSG)

440 Story of my life. Objectively, it is true. 1968 was the pivot year. We had 156 race riots in 68. There were two in the South (Atlanta and Birmingham) and two in California (Oakland and Watts) and 152 in the Northeast and Midwest. In 1969 the Yankee Exodus began and continues apace. Add the offshoring of manufacturing that took off in the 1980s and you will find a hollowed out Yankee Land importing illiterate non-English speakers for the sole purpose of maintaining political muscle to enable feasting on the blood of Flyover Americans. Not a pretty sight.


you're so right about this and it's so visible everywhere I go - New York State, PA, all of New England. you are so so right. you see it.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2023 09:38 AM (AcWfM)

441 Add the offshoring of manufacturing that took off in the 1980s and you will find a hollowed out Yankee Land importing illiterate non-English speakers for the sole purpose of maintaining political muscle to enable feasting on the blood of Flyover Americans.

Does it occur to anyone other than me that the SALT deduction forces the midwest and southeast to subsidize the high tax socialism enjoyed by the northeast and california ?

Posted by: Slowly, then Suddenly at October 04, 2023 09:38 AM (14zHW)

442 Gaetz is a slimeball politician. His only plan is to aggrandize himself.

But that plan redounds to the detriment of the Republican Party, so good.


He's the wrong person doing the right thing for the wrong reasons. I can live with that, as long as the right thing gets done.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2023 09:39 AM (I/Qkd)

443 Douche bag removed is an actual victory.

One less corrupt leader to fuck us over.

Posted by: DOYLE at October 04, 2023 09:41 AM (Z8Yh2)

444 I fail to see how anyone has sympathy for McCarthy. His grand plan was the Democrats to save him, and he even had an agreement in place for it. He deserves exactly what happened. There are pant sniffing loser pundits who reflexively want the status quo now trying to make it about Gaetz when he isn't even relevant to the main story.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2023 09:42 AM (ut95A)

445 I think Candidus is a song by Tony Orlando and Dawn
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The CandyMan Can . . .

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 04, 2023 09:50 AM (MIKMs)

446 I am not worried about the BRICS per se. I am worried about the failure of the USD as the default international settlement currency. I do think that the Dollar as "reserve currency" is on its way out. It is not on its way out because of the BRICS, but because of our actions against Russia and our out-of-control spending and associated monetary games. And when it goes, so does our ability to play "hide the inflation" by sequestering it in foreign trade flows.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 09:20 AM (t0OGg)
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I think it is partially on its way out because the global economy that needed a global reserve currency is changing. We have never been a large global trader as a percentage of our GDP, and that is just going down as we reshore our supply lines. Yes, that more than anything else will force our spending addiction into a bit of a crisis.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 04, 2023 09:53 AM (GZYu7)

447 Still hate McCarthy...just not sure Matt Gaetz is trustworthy either.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 09:20 AM (JgqvA)
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He's not. At the moment, I'm a fan. It will have to be earned every day.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 04, 2023 09:54 AM (GZYu7)

448 “The defendant should not be permitted to continue to try this case in the court of public opinion rather than in the court of law, and thereby undermine the fairness and integrity of this proceeding,” prosecutors alleged in a Friday filing

Of course not; you want him tried by the propagada arms of the Left, like the MSM.
Can't have the truth about what a shoddy, illegal job the DOJ, NY AG, Georgia prosecutor are doing.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 04, 2023 09:59 AM (ynpvh)

449 The Biden administration’s now-suspended Iran envoy Robert Malley helped to fund, support, and direct an Iranian intelligence operation designed to influence the United States and allied governments, according to a trove of purloined Iranian government emails. The emails, which were reported on by veteran Wall Street Journal correspondent Jay Solomon, writing in Semafor, and by Iran International, the London-based émigré opposition outlet which is the most widely read independent news source inside Iran, were published last week after being extensively verified over a period of several months by the two outlets. They showed that Malley had helped to infiltrate an Iranian agent of influence named Ariane Tabatabai into some of the most sensitive positions in the U.S. government—first at the State Department and now the Pentagon, where she has been serving as chief of staff for the assistant secretary of defense for special operations, Christopher Maier.

Posted by: SMOD at October 04, 2023 09:59 AM (RHGPo)

450 Good morning, all, and Yay!! J.J. Thanks!

Wow, the market yesterday, like a time machine, right?
Some CNBC headlines this AM: Mortgage demand drops to the lowest level since 1996, as interest rates head toward 8%. Truist downgrades these solar stocks, sees further struggles for the sector. Private payrolls rose 89,000 in September, far below expectations, ADP says. More than 75,000 workers to strike at hundreds of Kaiser Permanente health facilities across U.S.

PDT's 'favorite' is out; the Ds can't keep their progressive Congressional members supporting the new forever war forever & their more moderate members are resigning seats hither & yon. Kumbaya time.

A golden oldie: "To accomplish this, he (President O) said we would pursue three objectives: denying al-Qa'ida a safe haven, reversing the Taliban's momentum, and strengthening the capacity of Afghanistan's security forces and government so that they can take lead responsibility for Afghanistan's future. He also committed to begin the responsible withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan beginning in July 2011. (33,000 "surge" troops approved in 12/09 would leave summer '12.)

Do the right thing.

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemies at October 04, 2023 09:59 AM (GshMh)

451 Giles sarcastically responded to accusations he downplayed the Waffen SS’s role in the Holocaust in an effort to defend Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, posting on X (formerly Twitter): “Spot on. I [checks notes] accept genocide in order to protect my fellow progressive leftists like Trudeau.”

I'm glad he finally admits it, even if facetiously.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 04, 2023 09:59 AM (ynpvh)

452 Still hate McCarthy...just not sure Matt Gaetz is trustworthy either.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 09:20 AM (JgqvA)
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He isn't. Just look at the guy. If you look up "slimeball politician" in the dictionary, you'll see a picture of Matt Gaetz.

But this action is a good one, so I'll take it. Gaetz's "trustworthiness" or whatever has nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 10:01 AM (t0OGg)

453 452 But this action is a good one, so I'll take it. Gaetz's "trustworthiness" or whatever has nothing to do with it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 10:01 AM (t0OGg)

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But he's not pure of heart!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at October 04, 2023 10:04 AM (LvTSG)

454 In addition to AoSHQ, I used to hit PJ Media, Redstate and Instapundit throughout the day. PJ Media and Redstate have turned into complete crap, with the exception of maybe Bonchie and a couple of others, and Instapundit is just a slightly better PJ Media because of Reynolds and Sarah. Ed Driscoll repeatedly posting National Review, for example.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at October 04, 2023 10:26 AM (xaNfJ)

455 In response to Shughart's niece, I agree mobilization for overseas intervention should always require Congressional approval, except then what? If the President mobilizes without Congress' OK, do the Joint Chiefs disobey, or does Congress impeach? Certainly the UN should be irrelevant in deciding when the US fights oversees.


Almost all expeditionary fighting in the 20th-21st century is getting harder for me to defend. Only in the cases of WWII and Afghanistan were we truly attacked thus justifying an overseas response. With the latter I would have said forget trying to establish Democratic government, just mercilessly blow up the Taliban until we find OBL then leave immediately.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at October 04, 2023 10:30 AM (GD2xa)

456 52 But this action is a good one, so I'll take it. Gaetz's "trustworthiness" or whatever has nothing to do with it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2023 10:01 AM (t0OGg)

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Empty utterances like this lead nowhere positive. Yes, taken alone, dumping McCarthy proves he was accountable. So what? If, as I said many times in this thread, Republicans become more on-mission post-McCarthy, then this action has value. Gaetz himself may or may not add value to that mission, and that quality matters. It's not enough to be destructive. Destruction is not the end game. It's a necessary prelude, maybe, but lets see where this goes next.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2023 10:33 AM (oUI/5)

457 you will find a hollowed out Land importing illiterate non-English speakers The Jews and Yankees made us buy those slaves! We never meant for them to vote!

You may have gotten a little Puddin on you, there.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 04, 2023 10:34 AM (4PZHB)

458 I wish this was true. Brazil, Russia, Iran, China, South Africa. Combined GDP $28 Trillion. US GDP (2021) $23 Trillion. BRICS countries working on a common currency. America has outsourced so much manufacturing, it is nowhere near as "productive" as in the past, despite its GDP.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at October 04, 2023 09:26 AM (sOkXM)
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Still true. US is re-industrializing at a rapid pace. Still most productive innovative economy on the planet. Russia has never been more than a third world commodity broker with a first rate military. China's GDP has been overstated for decades and is nowhere near the numbers they regularly post - an impressive gain for sure, but less than we think - plus they are falling off the cliff so to speak. Brazil was the country we all thought would explode up but has actually fallen back.

India is doing pretty well. All of them would trade places with us immediately. I don't mean to diminish our issues. They exist and are serious. The BRICS mean nothing.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 04, 2023 10:35 AM (GZYu7)

459 455 Etc. Etc.

It's funny that you encourage me to commit acts of violence, complaining that all I do is write about it. And yet here YOU are. So brave, so very very brave of you. Hit my tip jar, cheapskate. Love 'n pishes, your superior in every way shape and form.

JJS

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 10:41 AM (x0n13)

460 455. You read his Morning Report Monday through Friday and then, today, bitch it's not enough? You want an author to act insanely & illegally against whom and for whom?

You do you. Be or find your own hero.

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemies at October 04, 2023 10:47 AM (GshMh)

461 455 Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemies at October 04, 2023 10:47 AM (GshMh)

The tick in question has been excised. Fitting, all things considered.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 10:54 AM (x0n13)

462 Well Mr. Sefton I'll stick with my view that Gaetz is a bone headed bozo. Politics is the art of the possible, and with a very weak majority McCarthy was doing okay. Gaetz is acting like a five year old wailing that his sister got a larger piece of cake.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at October 04, 2023 11:41 AM (cB7nX)

463 462 "Politics is the art of the possible, and with a very weak majority McCarthy was doing okay."

Posted by: Comanche Voter at October 04, 2023 11:41 AM (cB7nX)

If the art of the possible is masturbating for the zookeepers like a crack-addicted bonobo, then McCarthy was indeed unjustly booted.

You obviously do not understand the gravamen of my discourse. Try reading Joe Mannix's rant as well and tell him why he doesn't get it either.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2023 12:12 PM (x0n13)

464 Good morning, JJ. Great post, as usual! Extra applause to Congressman Gaetz. He did what has been long overdue. The government of the U.S. cannot continue to be a bank for political favors, it must serve the people. Period.
It's also a delight to watch the GOPe commentariat wail and kick their feet at the air. Bonchie and Joe Cunningham at RedState.com are attacking Gatez, stating that if he was going to get rid of McCarthy, he needed to "have a plan" for afterwards, an argument that is meaningless bullshit!!!
You see, they and the rest of the commentariat think that keeping McCarthy somehow keeps the Republicans all together and that's somehow more important in their view than having Republicans live up to the promises they made to voters. It's like a car with a bad engine that constantly fails, so you toss the engine and get a new one that makes the car work. Like said car, the U.S. House has failed for decades because we've had grifters and liars (Boehner, Ryan, Rogers, Upton, McMorris-Rogers and McCarthy) giving rave speeches but never doing a thing.
So put the career grifters out of power and give it back to the people. Now that's a plan! Deal with it or suck it, RedState!

Posted by: Tracy at October 04, 2023 01:02 PM (0klyx)

465 I wish this was true. Brazil, Russia, Iran, China, South Africa. Combined GDP $28 Trillion. US GDP (2021) $23 Trillion. BRICS countries working on a common currency. America has outsourced so much manufacturing, it is nowhere near as "productive" as in the past, despite its GDP.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at October 04, 2023 09:26 AM (sOkXM)

I don't know where to begin with this. OK: Russia is a one trick pony. It always has been. South Africa is totterning on being South Zimbabwe. China is in serious trouble. Brazil was doing fine until they re-elected a corrupt Leftist.

And once again you are one of those people for whom Manufacturing Jobs Are The Only Jobs That Matter. Farmers, ranchers, people in the oil industry, docs, etc: fuck 'em, right? (And yet another poster who shrieks and screams about "outsourcing" as other countries outsource to US. Those BMWs you see on the highway were made in SC, not Munich.)

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