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Ukraine Sues Poland Over Agricultural Restrictions, So Poland Stops Sending Arms to Ukraine
Updated
The EU is a protectionist bloc. It limits the quantity of non-EU agricultural products that are allowed to be sold there. (It also protects France from competition even within the EU.)
The EU had briefly limited the amount of Ukrainian wheat imports allowed to be purchased, but then they suspended those limits, to assist Ukraine's war effort. But three countries -- Poland, Slovakia, and Hungary -- are feeling the pain of a wheat glut and consequently low income for their farmers. So they decided to ban agricultural imports from Ukraine. As they previously threatened to do, Ukraine sued Poland, Hungary, and Slovakia over the ban.Yes, Ukraine, lawsuits always bring people closer together. It's what they're known to do. Now Poland decides that it will help show further solidarity between Poland and Ukraine by ending its program of sending arms to Ukraine. Just like lawsuits, ending a military alliance also brings people together!
Ukraine has filed lawsuits against Poland, Hungary and Slovakia at the World Trade Organization (WTO) over their decision to ban grain imports, in a row that has split the EU and could hurt Kyiv's prospects of joining the bloc. "It is fundamentally important for us to prove that individual member states cannot ban the import of Ukrainian goods. That is why we are filing lawsuits against them in the WTO," First Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Economy of Ukraine Yuliya Svyridenko said in a statement. Svyridenko added that the lawsuits, together with pressure from the European Commission and other member countries, "will help restore normal trade between Ukraine and neighboring countries, as well as show solidarity between us."
Warsaw has stopped supplying weapons to Kyiv and is focusing on arming itself instead, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said Wednesday, amid a dispute over Ukraine's agricultural exports. "We are no longer transferring weapons to Ukraine, because we are now arming Poland with more modern weapons," Morawiecki said in an appearance on Polish television channel Polsat, according to European Pravda. "If you don't want to be on the defensive, you have to have something to defend yourself with," he added, insisting, though, that the move wouldn't endanger Ukraine's security. Morawiecki's terse comments came as tensions escalated between Kyiv and the EU over the past week, after the European Commission moved to allow Ukrainian grain sales across the bloc, ending restrictions on grain imports which five eastern EU countries originally sought to protect their farmers from competition.I mentioned earlier that a transgender spokesman (emphasis on man) for the Ukrainian Territorial Defense Forces declared that he and his allies Have a Little List of "Russian war propagandists" and would literally "hunt them down."
A video of a former US soldier-turned-Ukrainian-military-spokesperson went viral on Wednesday after it was posted on X. The trans-identified male, who now goes by Sarah Ashton-Crillo spoke in a threatening tone and seemingly targeted the US: "Russia hates the truth, that their obsessive focus on a Ukrainian volunteer is simply allowing the light of the Ukrainian nations honesty to shine brightly." "Next week, the teeth of the Russian devils will gnash ever harder, and their rabid mouths will foam [with] uncontrollable frenzy as the world will see a favorite Kremlin propagandist pay for their crimes." "And this puppet of Putin is only the first Russia's war criminal propagandists will all be hunted down, and justice will be served as we in Ukraine are led on this mission by faith in God, liberty, and complete liberation."Correction: Earlier I said he was not an "official spokesman" for Ukraine. Well, actually, he is, or at least an official spokesman for the Ukraine Territorial Defense Forces.
A transgender former US soldier who goes by Sarah Ashton-Cirillo recently moved to Ukraine to become the English-speaking spokesman for the Ukrainian military.
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) September 13, 2023
Ashton-Cirillo is now taking to social media threatening to hunt down and kill those who criticize the country’s… pic.twitter.com/X4F8VcL1RG
Yeah.
— Sarah Ashton-Cirillo (Ukrainian TDF Media) (@SarahAshtonLV) September 20, 2023
I said it.
And it makes me proud. 💯
🇺🇦🌻 pic.twitter.com/5xQY3wmGWe
"In recent days, a video has circulated of an individual who claims to be an English-speaking spokesperson for the Ukrainian military. In the video, this individual, Sarah Ashton-Cirillo, looks directly into the camera and threatens physical violence to anyone who circulates 'Russian propaganda'." "A number of reports purport to offer additional information, much of it unconfirmed, regarding Ashton-Cirillo. I've seen claims this individual is an American, a former intelligence operative in the United States, and an employee of the Ukrainian government...."Here's how this ugly man responded:
Exclusive 🚨🚨🚨
— Sarah Ashton-Cirillo (Ukrainian TDF Media) (@SarahAshtonLV) September 18, 2023
Special Ukraine in the Know:
My response to Senator Vance’s letter to the US Secretaries of State and Defense and the Director of National Intelligence asking about my role in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. pic.twitter.com/L6KuHgfyC5
Junior Sergeant Sarah Ashton-Cirillo has been suspended from the duties of the spokesperson of the @TDF_UA while an investigation is underway. https://t.co/4nN9z2YiW8
— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) September 20, 2023
I've generally supported Ukraine, not because I love Ukraine but because Russia is a despicable enemy. But I'm becoming more and more disenchanted by the amount of entitlement we see flowing from the Democrat Party Proxy State of Ukraine. Meanwhile, Rand Paul says he will not vote for any stopgap spending bill that includes aid to Ukraine.
Ukraine Territorial Defense Forces
@TDF_UA Sep 20 1/3 Statement of the Command of the Territorial Defense Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine regarding some statements of the spokesperson of the TDF, Junior Sergeant Sarah Ashton-Cirillo. 2/3 The statements of JSgt Ashton-Cirillo in recent days were not approved by the command of the TDF or the command of the AFU. When conducting military operations against the aggressor, the defense forces of Ukraine strictly observe the norms of international humanitarian law. 3/3 The command of the TDF will conduct an official investigation into the circumstances of these statements. Appropriate decisions would be taken.
Sergeant Sarah Ashton-Cirillo will be suspended immediately pending the investigation.
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) announced Wednesday he would not pass any short-term spending package to fund the government that includes additional funding for the Ukrainian war effort, just ten days before the federal government is set to shut down if a deal is not reached. Congressional leaders are working towards a deal to pass a continuing resolution to keep the federal government funded past September 30. However, there's a debate about whether the continuing resolution will include the additional $24 billion in aid for Ukraine that President Joe Biden is requesting. Paul wrote an op-ed and spoke about the issue on the Senate floor, declaring the federal government should "not be held hostage for Ukraine funding." "Today I'm putting congressional leadership & @POTUS on notice that I will oppose any effort to hold the federal government hostage for Ukraine funding," Paul wrote online. "I will not consent to expedited passage of any spending measure that provides any more U.S. aid to Ukraine."
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: nurse ratched, sea otter Awareness WEEK starts Sunday! at September 21, 2023 01:43 PM (xK2Dd)
Posted by: nurse ratched, sea otter Awareness WEEK starts Sunday! at September 21, 2023 01:43 PM (xK2Dd)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 21, 2023 01:44 PM (5cNfZ)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 21, 2023 01:44 PM (lnQL+)
Why, I get the feeling that this might be an Op.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 01:46 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 01:46 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2023 01:46 PM (YcYZY)
Z is a shithead. We're shitheads for continuing to send him money.
Go away.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)
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Now, build a coalition around it, Rand.
Don't be your dad. Be a leader.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 01:47 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 01:47 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 01:47 PM (CIS44)
*types* *deletes*
Good for you, ace.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 01:48 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2023 01:48 PM (YIVH2)
Posted by: Aqua Buddha at September 21, 2023 01:48 PM (YcYZY)
I probably shouldn't laugh about this but...it's kinda funny. Uke's picking a fight with someone helping them fight Russians...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 01:48 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 21, 2023 01:48 PM (lnQL+)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 01:48 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 01:48 PM (GZYu7)
@zriboua
Erdogan to Musk: "Where is your wife?"
Musk: "uhhh"
American modern way of life is just incomprehensible to the rest of the world
Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 21, 2023 01:49 PM (TGPs7)
Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2023 01:46 PM (YcYZY)
Or at least one that is not showing the Proper Deference.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 01:49 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: nurse ratched, sea otter Awareness WEEK starts Sunday! at September 21, 2023 01:43 PM (xK2Dd)
That's hot.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 01:49 PM (5jrpm)
Off topic but not really: There is a really heated war of words now between India and Canada.
Personally, I welcome an Indian invasion of Castreau-cescu's dominion.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2023 01:49 PM (x0n13)
Yes, yes, Kyiv is more Ukrainian-sounding something something. Too bad; everyone's called it Kiev for umpteen centuries; get over it.
Posted by: Dr. T at September 21, 2023 01:49 PM (bhRsz)
"If you don't want to be on the defensive, you have to have something to defend yourself with," he added, insisting, though, that the move wouldn't endanger Ukraine's security.
"I mean", he added, "their border with Russia has more holes than emmental cheese."
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 21, 2023 01:49 PM (xG4kz)
I'm sure most must think it's ludicrous to have some man in a wig pretending to be a woman with some sort of authority
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2023 01:49 PM (RSbhh)
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 01:50 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: huerfano at September 21, 2023 01:50 PM (7zEAH)
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 01:50 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 01:50 PM (5jrpm)
As far as I can tell, the US completely manufactured this entire situation. We overthrew Ukraine's government. McCain was suspicious jaw lump deep in the whole thing. Russia told us over and over and over again that their red line was Ukraine joining NATO. So we started talking about them joining NATO. The US torpedoed early peace talks that were mostly a done deal. The US destroyed Russia's pipeline. We've been propping up a paper tiger country and they STILL are barely holding off Russia, who seems to be fighting with one arm tied behind their back.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 21, 2023 01:50 PM (0N1h0)
@zriboua
Erdogan to Musk: "Where is your wife?"
Musk: "uhhh"
American modern way of life is just incomprehensible to the rest of the world
Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 21, 2023 01:49 PM (TGPs7)
He should have replied: "Doing yours with a strap-on."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2023 01:50 PM (x0n13)
Personally, I welcome an Indian invasion of Castreau-cescu's dominion.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2023 01:49 PM (x0n13)
It would be interesting to see how the Canadians would be portrayed in Bollywood Propaganda.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 01:50 PM (zZu0s)
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Especially in a fair, straight-shooting court like the WTO.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 01:50 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Shamelessly stolen without attribution at September 21, 2023 01:51 PM (lR6tR)
The more I learn about what the fucking hell is going on the more I side with Vlad.
Idiot Biden is pushing for WWIII, no one is attempting to stop him, except MTG, Gaetz and Rand.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at September 21, 2023 01:51 PM (UCNv1)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2023 01:48 PM (YIVH2)
I have to admit, "de facto Russo-Polish alliance against Ukraine" was not on my bingo card for 2023, or ever.
Posted by: Dr. T at September 21, 2023 01:51 PM (bhRsz)
Personally, I welcome an Indian invasion of Castreau-cescu's dominion.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at
A single flying squad of Sikhs ought to be enough to administer a good thrashing to Justine.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 21, 2023 01:51 PM (xG4kz)
Ukraine asked for it........
https://youtu.be/DlCRgROe2uc
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 01:51 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Dr. T at September 21, 2023 01:51 PM (bhRsz)
Blintz-krieg.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2023 01:52 PM (x0n13)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
I don't think it will come to that. But Ukraine is on track to lose, even with all of the aid they are getting, and Poland dropping out makes that day come faster.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 21, 2023 01:52 PM (lnQL+)
I remember when we were supposed to have learned something from Vietnam.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 01:52 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 01:50 PM (CIS44)
The Bat Sack?
Posted by: Holy scrotalingus Batman! at September 21, 2023 01:52 PM (lR6tR)
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Both are probably true. We'll make up the difference and Poland will continue to prepare for its own defense if needed. I don't blame them one bit. I think the argument that Putin is just itching to keep moving after dispatching Ukraine doesn't have a lot of merit, but Poland arming itself to the teeth would certainly cause Putin some pause if it is his plan.
Does this also mean the Poland thinks that the Ukraine exercise is more or less finished at this point?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 01:52 PM (t0OGg)
This is a Polish government flex, telling the US and Ukraine that they won't be patsies and lose their own personal elections b/c they allow Ukraine to screw them and their people. Farmers are big swing voters in Poland right now, and this is all about getting their votes.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 01:52 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 21, 2023 01:52 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 01:50 PM (5jrpm)
.......
Z-dog really thinks he's something. Wait until the U.S. dollar collapses.
Posted by: wth at September 21, 2023 01:53 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Dr. T at September 21, 2023 01:49 PM (bhRsz)
It's the selectivity that galls me.
Endonyms or exonyms. Pick one.
It's Kiev and Moscow, or Kyiv and Moskva.
Pick a policy and go with it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2023 01:53 PM (9UlRk)
- Progtard POS Everywhere.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 21, 2023 01:53 PM (ga8qR)
Posted by: bonhomme at September 21, 2023 01:50 PM (0N1h0)
==
You've been drinking with Putin again haven't you.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 01:53 PM (GZYu7)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 21, 2023 01:53 PM (5xURv)
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Where are these Russian stooges? Are they in Ukraine? Europe? United States? Asia? Where will this hunt take place? What is the means they will use to kill their opponents after the victory?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 01:53 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (N3zMI)
@ScottAdamsSays
This is brainwashing of children.
I support it 100%.
Ian Jaeger
@IanJaeger29
🚨BREAKING: Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds has signed a bill requiring schools to recite the Pledge of Allegiance every morning.
Do you support this?
Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (TGPs7)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (qF6Lg)
Personally, I welcome an Indian invasion of Castreau-cescu's dominion.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at
A single flying squad of Sikhs ought to be enough to administer a good thrashing to Justine.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 21, 2023 01:51 PM (xG4kz)
Endorsed
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (YcYZY)
Idiot Biden is pushing for WWIII, no one is attempting to stop him, except MTG, Gaetz and Rand.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator
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Never get between most Republican office holders and a bag of cash, they will cut a bitch to grab that sweet cash.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (Q9+wR)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)
Apologies to Al.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (gn1Ys)
Posted by: Frasier Crane at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (bNf8H)
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So, Vance knows it, saw it in classified information, and is "just asking questions"?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff, striving to maintain Moron standards at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (zLfni)
oh that's not mine. I forget who first said it. It was coined in response to the Game Spot Transgender, a brawny 230 pounder, who kept insisting "It's ma'am!" while threatening the terrified clerk.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (KRtlO)
++++
The more time goes on, the righter you get on this one.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (t0OGg)
whose side are we on
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (geLO8)
It's like college football. Damn it, there's a game going on, and too many arm chair fans without any skin in the game want to see their team on the field.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at September 21, 2023 01:55 PM (HCAuk)
- Progtard POS Everywhere.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 21, 2023 01:53 PM (ga8qR)
Agreed because your Democracy gang-raped my Republic.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2023 01:55 PM (x0n13)
Blintz-krieg.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2023 01:52 PM (x0n13)
7/10, decent floor routine but really stuck that landing.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 21, 2023 01:55 PM (5xURv)
Posted by: (Joe Biden) at September 21, 2023 01:55 PM (fs1hN)
Do you support this?
Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (TGPs7)
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Yes.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2023 01:55 PM (YIVH2)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 01:52 PM (LvTSG)
I remember when those who wanted to fight proxy wars against Moscow were fascistic threats to democracy.
Posted by: Dr. T at September 21, 2023 01:55 PM (bhRsz)
I honestly don't know if this is a joke or not.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 21, 2023 01:55 PM (0N1h0)
Posted by: Mister Ghost
Nope. For the simple fact that it will become The Pledge of Marxism in 2 years time.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 21, 2023 01:55 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 01:55 PM (xcxpd)
Poland feels reasonably safe because they're in NATO. It’s about economics more than the war. This step by Poland might well result in our HAVING to get in fully via NATO.
If Russia moves on Poland...(and given how much this will embolden Putin, he just might).
We have to keep funding Ukraine. If for no other reason, it shows how weak Putin and Russia are.
Simply Not True. A Polish right-wing MAGA politician running for office made this announcement. Duda is above all things, power-hungry. He wants to hold on to office - but without becoming a pariah within the EU.
And the EU's been to Poland what it was to Spain in the '80s: it's brought them into the first world.
If this is indeed happening as reported by CNN, it'll just make the killing of innocent Ukrainians by the Russians that much easier. Unless Ukraine decides to go to negotiation table.
I am just very sad to watch daily destruction of buildings in Ukraine and the accompanying casualties. Obviously NATO has not been able to defeat Russian invasion.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 21, 2023 01:56 PM (JCZqz)
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It has gone beyond entitlement and into open threats by Ukraine and by Z-man. "Keep it up, keep hurling money and arms into this maw, or else."
I don't know what the "or else" is specifically, but it is increasingly common.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 01:56 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: fd at September 21, 2023 01:56 PM (vFG9F)
oh that's not mine. I forget who first said it. It was coined in response to the Game Spot Transgender, a brawny 230 pounder, who kept insisting "It's ma'am!" while threatening the terrified clerk.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (KRtlO)
Funny how only a few short years ago, Barbara Boxer blew a gasket when a brass hat called her "ma'am."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2023 01:56 PM (x0n13)
Europeans, by and large, seem to be freeloaders and ingrates, at least in a NATO/geopolitical sense.
So, yeeeeah, this tracks.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 21, 2023 01:56 PM (l8gTz)
whose side are we on
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (geLO
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"We have to invade India to remove the English influence that made them antagonistic to Canadian progressivism. We will install regional governors that rule the people with an iron fist until we work out their antigay attitudes born of evil imperialism."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 01:56 PM (LvTSG)
whose side are we on
___
Who pays better?
Posted by: Scranton Joe at September 21, 2023 01:56 PM (fs1hN)
Had Biden just let Russia take a section of Ukraine (like Obama did with Crimea) EVERYONE (including Ukranians) would have been way better off.
Not a fan of Russia either, but we just drug something out and made it way bloodier (and cost us nearly a trillion dollars) because some Dem kids were on Ukraine's payroll.
Posted by: Blago at September 21, 2023 01:56 PM (15SVK)
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 01:56 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: (Joe Biden) at September 21, 2023 01:55 PM (fs1hN)
We know it wasn't OceanGate. They couldn't get that deep.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 01:56 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (TGPs7)
Well I'm in favor of abolishing public schools. That being said, I don't want schools that do exist to be forcing kids to recite the pledge any more than I want them secretly transitioning kids.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 01:56 PM (qF6Lg)
Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (TGPs7)
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Yes.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2023 01:55 PM (YIVH2)
Nope.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at September 21, 2023 01:56 PM (HCAuk)
For a poor, corrupt country that's at war and begging for money and support, Ukraine is kind of an asshole.
Posted by: huerfano
Uzbekistan skates to the bench for a well-deserved rest after a long, long shift on the ice.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 21, 2023 01:56 PM (xG4kz)
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Good. It won't matter, but good. I am glad to see it and unlike most people in the US Government, I actually expect Rand to do what he says. He will be outvoted, of course, and nothing will change, but such is life.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 01:57 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2023 01:57 PM (zhLdt)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 01:57 PM (xcxpd)
I've generally supported Ukraine, not because I love Ukraine but because Russia is a despicable enemy. But I'm becoming more and more disenchanted by the amount of entitlement we see flowing from the Democrat Party Proxy State of Ukraine.
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Ace, use your time machine and explain this in 2009:
"In Kiev and Kharkiv and other cities in Ukraine, American political consultants who worked against one another in Iowa and New Hampshire and then in the general election are facing off again in a somewhat surreal Eastern European replay of the 2008 campaign.
The firm headed by Hillary Clinton’s former chief strategist, Mark Penn, is helping run incumbent President Victor Yushchenko’s campaign. Meanwhile Paul Manafort, whose firm worked on Republican John McCain’s losing effort, and Tad Devine, a top strategist on the Democratic presidential campaigns of Al Gore in 2000 and John Kerry in 2004, are consulting for Victor Yanukovych, the pro-Russian frontrunner in the polls."
https://tinyurl.com/29thk9sq
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 21, 2023 01:57 PM (+MSSo)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 01:55 PM (xcxpd)
I smelled a rat when some Kuwaiti dame was weeping before Congress about Iraqi soldiers roasting babies alive in their incubators.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2023 01:57 PM (x0n13)
Posted by: bonhomme
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Not really, the Russian armor forces have been depleted and Vlad is going to the Norks for artillery shells and Iran for drones. Even Armenia is slowly spiraling out of control.
My guess is a negotiated settlement/ceasefire and what you are seeing is moves on the counter to shore up each side's bargaining position. Russia will get a chunk of Ukraine but then Ukrainian pols get lots of money to 'rebuild' Ukraine.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 01:57 PM (Q9+wR)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 01:57 PM (t0OGg)
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I like Rand more than the rest of Congress combined, but he's not going to one time deny unanimous consent on anything.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 01:58 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Oddbob at September 21, 2023 01:58 PM (nfrXX)
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Ukrainians, doing the jobs that American CIA and FBI agents won't do.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 21, 2023 01:58 PM (lnQL+)
Poland wants money and more first-class weaponry from Uncle Joe.
Posted by: GL at September 21, 2023 01:58 PM (5fDan)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2023 01:56 PM (x0n13)
Petreus. Damn, that brings back memories.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 01:58 PM (zZu0s)
He correctly predicted that sexual deviants would be the enforcers of the coming dystopian regimes.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert, Formerly Virginian at September 21, 2023 01:58 PM (N1DT3)
oh that's not mine. I forget who first said it. It was coined in response to the Game Spot Transgender, a brawny 230 pounder, who kept insisting "It's ma'am!" while threatening the terrified clerk.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 21, 2023 01:54 PM (KRtlO)
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Ace, it was even better: The tranny freak kept yelling "It's ma'am, MOTHERFUCKER!" to the clerk.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 01:59 PM (iFTx/)
Deal with that enemy first.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2023 01:59 PM (0FoWg)
Just as the US is not as highly thought of by Poles as we think it is, Russia is not as negatively thought of by Poles as we think it is, either.
Instead, Poland truly wants to be its own country as equals (if not superior) to both.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 01:59 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 01:58 PM (LvTSG)
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Strikes me as unlikely.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 01:59 PM (t0OGg)
No one ever talks about Kuwait doing horizontal oil drilling into Iraqi territory.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at September 21, 2023 01:59 PM (HCAuk)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 01:55 PM (xcxpd)
I smelled a rat when some Kuwaiti dame was weeping before Congress about Iraqi soldiers roasting babies alive in their incubators.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2023 01:57 PM (x0n13)
We have lots of proof that Saddam was asshoe but back then, I still believed in the US as the World Police (tm). I don't anymore, mostly because it turns out the US government is asshoe.
Just...makes me wonder. SHOULD we be punishing countries for trying to conquer other countries or should we be minding our own business...?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (xcxpd)
Europeans, by and large, seem to be freeloaders and ingrates, at least in a NATO/geopolitical sense.
So, yeeeeah, this tracks.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 21, 2023 01:56 PM
Yep, they hate us but sure love our money. I am of the screw them mindset. They are all entitled little shits. We are constantly being portrayed as the bad guy but sure do love our defense we give them as well as our hard earned money. That's why I loved when Trump made the Euroweeinies pay more. They and their faux leftista allies here at home decried it of course. I am tired of being the worlds money tree.
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (kzu4f)
Posted by: runner at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (t459v)
Oh wait, sorry, don't think the Bidens ever hooked up with any Energy Firms in the Caucasus, did they?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (9UlRk)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (5xURv)
Posted by: nurse ratched, sea otter Awareness WEEK starts Sunday! at September 21, 2023 01:43 PM (xK2Dd)
That's hot.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
Sooooooon!
And please ice down an extra yuengling for me!
Posted by: nurse ratched, sea otter Awareness WEEK starts Sunday! at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (jEhUm)
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Related:
Does Russia have less justification/right to secure bioweapons labs just across their border than we did when we crossed thousands of miles and an ocean to ostensibly do it in Iraq?
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (+MSSo)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2023 01:48 PM (YIVH2)
Joe Biden will declare war on the Russian puppet state of Poland. Westerners everywhere will take to social media to declare their hatred of large breasted Polish women. People will put upside-down Polish flags on their social media accounts... as soon as they are told which color is supposed to be on top.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (zhLdt)
No one ever talks about Kuwait doing horizontal oil drilling into Iraqi territory.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at September 21, 2023 01:59 PM (HCAuk)
They drank Iraq's milkshake?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Tom at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (Bl/ul)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (9UlRk)
My conclusion: The impeachment was an obvious sham.
Every TX democrat and anyone working with them can roast in hell.
That is all.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (2OL6m)
No one ever talks about Kuwait doing horizontal oil drilling into Iraqi territory.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at September 21, 2023 01:59 PM (HCAuk)
They drank Iraq's milkshake?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (xcxpd)
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Except this never finishes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:01 PM (LvTSG)
Does this also mean the Poland thinks that the Ukraine exercise is more or less finished at this point?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 01:52 PM (t0OGg)
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I think Putin was looking for any excuse to get closer to the spots he wants to close off. Moldova was my thought of where he would go first, they aren't a part of NATO.
The Uke exercise is now at stalemate. The Ukes just don't have the bodies to push any initial success at the front, and Russia now realizes their entire re-supply routes and logistic hubs can be stopped by Uke drones. They cannot even harbor their navy in Crimea anymore. So Russia is pretty much limited as well. A perfect storm of stalemate.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 02:01 PM (GZYu7)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (xcxpd)
I can't help thinking about a thick, frosty black and white whenever I see something about this Irina Shayk broad.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2023 02:01 PM (x0n13)
Does Russia have less justification/right to secure bioweapons labs just across their border than we did when we crossed thousands of miles and an ocean to ostensibly do it in Iraq?
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (+MSSo)
I maintain that should have been a covert op rather than a full invastion, if they only wanted to trash those labs.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 02:01 PM (xcxpd)
Europeans, by and large, seem to be freeloaders and ingrates, at least in a NATO/geopolitical sense.
So, yeeeeah, this tracks.
so... the ingratitude is part of their bid to join the eu?
Posted by: anachronda at September 21, 2023 02:01 PM (v3pYe)
Russia has a lot of nasty weapons they've not dragged into the fight. That's what I mean when I say they're fighting with one arm tied behind their back.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 21, 2023 02:02 PM (0N1h0)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (9UlRk)
"FUCK YEA YOU SHOULD!"
-- Sabaton
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 02:02 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at September 21, 2023 02:02 PM (gxokI)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2023 02:01 PM (x0n13)
She's really well assembled. I slightly prefer Gal Godot though.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 02:02 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2023 01:46 PM (YcYZY)
Let it not be forgotten that (the) Ukraine thanked the Wehrmacht for liberating it from Soviet control by killing a whole lot of Jews.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 21, 2023 02:02 PM (guGkK)
Personally, I welcome an Indian invasion of Castreau-cescu's dominion.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2023 01:49 PM (x0n13)
I saw something yesterday about Modi's response to Trudeau demonstrating that Modi was embracing totalitarianism. Took me about 10 minutes to stop laughing.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2023 02:02 PM (zhLdt)
That is all.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (2OL6m)
*The Bush Wing has entered the chat*
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 02:02 PM (CIS44)
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Ukrainians, doing the jobs that American CIA and FBI agents won't do.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 21, 2023 01:58 PM (lnQL+)
We're working on it!!!
Posted by: FBI Straight Shooters at September 21, 2023 02:02 PM (bhRsz)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 21, 2023 02:02 PM (mCz8T)
Posted by: Idiocracy undershot the target at September 21, 2023 02:03 PM (mZ3ss)
https://is.gd/DcMrni
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:03 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (xcxpd)
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Except this never finishes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:01 PM (LvTSG)
*hands out wooden bowling pins*
That'll do it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 02:03 PM (xcxpd)
Just as a rule.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
if they's fer it, I'm agin it
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 02:03 PM (geLO8)
https://is.gd/DcMrni
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:03 PM (LvTSG)
ooooooh thaz a nice one.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (CIS44)
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Someone, probably on the ONT, suggested a year ago that a reasonable out for Rusiia in all this was, once they claimed the territory they wanted, offer the rest to Poland.
Instant improvement in relations between Russia and Poland, and NATO can go horsefuck.
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Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (TGPs7)
No one ever talks about Kuwait doing horizontal oil drilling into Iraqi territory.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at September 21, 2023 01:59 PM (HCAuk)
They drank Iraq's milkshake?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (xcxpd)
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Except this never finishes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:01 PM (LvTSG)
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Well, it did bring all the boys to the yard . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (iFTx/)
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I maintain that should have been a covert op rather than a full invastion, if they only wanted to trash those labs.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo
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I figure it was all of a piece and they thought it would make it more difficult for the world and U.S. to protest.
They underestimated the complete and total lack of leadership, honesty, and integrity of the U.S. and U.N.
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (+MSSo)
The fatigues -and-blond wig Ukraine spokesman has got to be satire, how is it not???
And recall that a former Zelenskyy spokesman was none other than Biden Misinfo Czar Nina Theaterkid.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (Hkcdp)
Posted by: bonhomme at September 21, 2023 02:02 PM (0N1h0)
On a related note, I'm finally going to go watch Oppenheimer this weekend.
Posted by: Dr. T at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (bhRsz)
Posted by: Iraq at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (0FoWg)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2023 02:02 PM (zhLdt)
I can't imagine a worse tyrant than a liberal western Leftist.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (x0n13)
I worked with a remote team in Ukraine in a former job. What a bunch of joyless grumps they were. Their work product was better than I've had from remote teams in India, but they were a grind to work with.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (0N1h0)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (5xURv)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (9UlRk)
"FUCK YEA YOU SHOULD!"
-- Sabaton
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 02:02 PM (iFTx/)
Endorsed.
Kick ass song too
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: bonhomme
Are you telling us the Russkies don't take a dump without a plan?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: Inspector Krogh at September 21, 2023 02:05 PM (v0R5T)
hey! watch it, bub!
Posted by: indonesia at September 21, 2023 02:05 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: SMFH at September 21, 2023 02:05 PM (jgaFT)
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Interestingly enough, there were a bunch of them caught on video causing problems at J6.
Almost like there's coordination.
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 21, 2023 02:05 PM (+MSSo)
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 02:05 PM (geLO8)
On a related note, I'm finally going to go watch Oppenheimer this weekend.
Posted by: Dr. T at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (bhRsz
I'm still waiting on it to hit the streaming services.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 21, 2023 02:06 PM (5xURv)
Posted by: bonhomme at September 21, 2023 01:55 PM (0N1h0)
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Let's just say part of it I can buy, and part of it is a massive stretch!
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 02:06 PM (GZYu7)
Our "ally" has an open kill list that includes American citizens. I believe they also have at least one American imprisoned for reporting from Ukraine.
And the whole point of the conflict right now for Ukraine is to exterminate the people in Donbas so they can solve "The Russian Question"
Que: Are we the baddies?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2023 02:06 PM (XqcwY)
Should have said "I don't have a wife, I have a harem."
The Turk should have understood and approved.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 21, 2023 02:06 PM (ou9hh)
Gemma Arterton's character's name in the Bond movie Quantum Of Solace
?
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 02:05 PM (geLO
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Strawberry Fields.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:06 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 01:52 PM (exHjb)
Plus, with every nation west of Poland rushing to be the first to destroy their domestic agriculture, the Polish government wants to be able to feed their people.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2023 02:07 PM (zhLdt)
Posted by: bonhomme
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You do nukes and chem warfare, then Putin instantly destroys whatever support he had among his allies and certainly using them close to Euroland will cause a massive reaction.
Same as US fighting in Afghanistan, Korea, or Vietnam.
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Supposedly, if you can trust Turkish sources, Putin wants to make a deal now.
He was stupid in this instance and thought he could ensure his legacy by restoring the Motherland and most likely will end up just another failed despot when he dies.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 02:07 PM (Q9+wR)
The tranny issued a careful non-denial denial to that, and said that it was terrible that anyone thought that he had a connection with US intelligence, without actually denying that he had a connection with US intelligence.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 21, 2023 02:07 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 01:55 PM (xcxpd)
Knowing what we know now, of course not.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 02:08 PM (H03ba)
He was stupid in this instance and thought he could ensure his legacy by restoring the Motherland and most likely will end up just another failed despot when he dies.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 02:07 PM (Q9+wR)
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He's no Ivan the Terrible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:08 PM (LvTSG)
there was a schoolhouse rock episode about him
Posted by: anachronda at September 21, 2023 02:08 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: weft cut-tanto at September 21, 2023 02:08 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (9UlRk)
"FUCK YEA YOU SHOULD!"
-- Sabaton
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 02:02 PM (iFTx/)
Endorsed.
Kick ass song too
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (xcxpd)
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They're mostly obscure in America and never will be big given the themes of their songs, but they can write a good metal song. Also check out The Last Stand (about the Swiss Guard during the sack of Rome) and The Final Solution (about the Final Solution).
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 02:08 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 21, 2023 02:09 PM (mCz8T)
Posted by: ivan the awesome at September 21, 2023 02:09 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Mostly no. They were incredibly ungrateful to us.
And then we botched finishing it.
It just seemed to me we were OPEC's private army.
All that being said, not something I would rate anywhere near a huge American policy bungle.
Posted by: Blago at September 21, 2023 02:09 PM (15SVK)
Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at September 21, 2023 02:09 PM (a9CYf)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (xcxpd)
I vote for minding our own effing business. Forever. But it doesn't matter, our fate is already determined. But at least we still have WiFi...for now.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 21, 2023 02:09 PM (7Pnfz)
Posted by: Lizzy
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Another former Ukrainian spokesperson is here working for a US presidential candidate.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 02:09 PM (Q9+wR)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 21, 2023 02:09 PM (B1FKF)
"In Kiev and Kharkiv and other cities in Ukraine, American political consultants who worked against one another in Iowa and New Hampshire and then in the general election are facing off again in a somewhat surreal Eastern European replay of the 2008 campaign.
The firm headed by Hillary Clinton’s former chief strategist, Mark Penn, is helping run incumbent President Victor Yushchenko’s campaign. Meanwhile Paul Manafort, whose firm worked on Republican John McCain’s losing effort, and Tad Devine, a top strategist on the Democratic presidential campaigns of Al Gore in 2000 and John Kerry in 2004, are consulting for Victor Yanukovych, the pro-Russian frontrunner in the polls."
https://tinyurl.com/29thk9sq
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 21, 2023 01:57 PM (+MSSo)
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They are like locusts - they show up everywhere - the political consulting class has been living high on the hog on Israel elections for years.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 02:09 PM (GZYu7)
is mistranslation. is supposed to be "ivan the awesome"
Posted by: ivan the awesome at September 21, 2023 02:09 PM (v3pYe)
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You are just the tribute.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:09 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: bonhomme at September 21, 2023 01:50 PM (0N1h0)
......................
This bears repeating: The U.S., via it's perpetual State Department aristocrat class (Victoria Nuland, George Kent, Fiona Hill, et. al) waged a coup against Ukraine's elected government. They're on fucking TAPE discussing it.
The U.S. convinced their dipshit puppet Saakashvili that Georgia could be part of NATO if they conquered South Ossetia, which got them stomped flat by Russia in less than a week.
We've been fucking with Russia since the early 90s. How exactly are they a "despicable enemy"?
Posted by: Jack Package at September 21, 2023 02:09 PM (8LP6B)
OK, but he's got cruise missiles that can circumnavigate the world. Wouldn't take much to put a few of those right up Zelenskyyy's ass, especially given how often the unctuous ass is photographed.
Posted by: bonhomme at September 21, 2023 02:09 PM (0N1h0)
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 21, 2023 02:10 PM (xT7BI)
Posted by: Michelle Fields at September 21, 2023 02:10 PM (gn1Ys)
- Michener ( Poland )
Good book
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 21, 2023 02:10 PM (NtVYv)
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 02:02 PM (iFTx/)
Endorsed.
Kick ass song too
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (xcxpd)
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They're mostly obscure in America and never will be big given the themes of their songs, but they can write a good metal song. Also check out The Last Stand (about the Swiss Guard during the sack of Rome) and The Final Solution (about the Final Solution).
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 02:08 PM (iFTx/)
40 to 1 is good too, so is Ghost Division...though I have...mixed feelings about enjoying it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 02:10 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Lithiated gp For Refreshment at September 21, 2023 02:10 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (Q4IgG)
I wonder, how many times a day "her" recreation facility in the rear area is visited by Ukrainian soldiers needing a break from combat?
Posted by: GL at September 21, 2023 02:10 PM (5fDan)
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 02:10 PM (geLO8)
Suspend elections
Outlaw opposition parties
Seize the assets of opposition parties
Arrest clergy
Shut down dissident TV stations
Universal draft
Threaten assassinations worldwide
Demand endless money from other nations
I'm beginning to doubt how democratic they are ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 21, 2023 02:10 PM (ICNGn)
Posted by: wth at September 21, 2023 02:10 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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In the various ways that Ivan butchered people, I don't think he used polonium injections nor flinging people from tall buildings and claiming they suicided. Got to move with the times Yo.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 02:11 PM (Q9+wR)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Low and Slow.
But did they use a dry rub or baste?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 21, 2023 02:11 PM (ga8qR)
Do you support this?"
I think I'd rather have them pledge allegiance to the Constitution than the flag, but that would require schools to actually let them read it first.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 21, 2023 02:11 PM (ou9hh)
Again, you can't over-estimate the urge, for folks of a certain generational and socio-political segment, to see Old Glory flying anywhere there's the war game.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at September 21, 2023 02:11 PM (HCAuk)
Scary Poppins?
Posted by: bonhomme at September 21, 2023 02:11 PM (0N1h0)
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 02:10 PM (geLO
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Only good on the purchase with a sub of equal or lesser value?!
And it expired 2 years ago?!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:11 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 21, 2023 02:11 PM (9/y3s)
- Michener ( Poland )
Good book
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 21, 2023 02:10 PM (NtVYv)
Hope they have epidurals over there....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2023 02:11 PM (9UlRk)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 21, 2023 02:11 PM (Ds/Wi)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2023 02:11 PM (E1eJA)
They were wrong about ending it quickly.
A fallback position may have been that the West gets quickly distracted. If they considered that, looks like their choice was correct.
The West has no ability to commit to a long-term... I was going to say war, but really, it's anything long-term.
We are ruled by the worst "elites" in history.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert, Formerly Virginian at September 21, 2023 02:12 PM (N1DT3)
Posted by: runner at September 21, 2023 02:12 PM (t459v)
Farmers are a key political bloc in Poland, and it is dawning on the Poles that the millions of Ukrainian refugees are unlikely to ever go home (Poland has four times the per capita GNP of Ukraine).
Also, although the current Polish government is anti-Russia, it's the opposition that is the pro-WEF, pro-EU party. Doing favors for Ukraine does not help the governing party with their base.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 21, 2023 02:12 PM (2tUFv)
Their Pierogi Gun is an much improved adaptation of the US Potato Gun.
Posted by: Lithiated gp For Refreshment at September 21, 2023 02:12 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 21, 2023 02:13 PM (guGkK)
Posted by: Disinformation Expert, Formerly Virginian at September 21, 2023 02:12 PM (N1DT3)
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"Whew..."
-The elites of Europe from 1914-1918
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:13 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2023 02:13 PM (9UlRk)
They underestimated the complete and total lack of leadership, honesty, and integrity of the U.S. and U.N.
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (+MSSo)
They underestimated the willingness of the U.S. of A. to continue this war well beyond the point of Russia having accomplished its goals. They expect us to negotiate, and figured they were in a good place to get most of what they wanted.
That was their miscalculation, that we'd be willing to let Ukraine be bled to death.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 02:13 PM (eQTRt)
Posted by: bonhomme at September 21, 2023 01:50 PM (0N1h0)
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Russia invaded Ukraine, got the territory they wanted then stopped. They are in a defensive position now.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 21, 2023 02:13 PM (kK343)
Posted by: Darth Randall
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Both sides are losing despite what partisans say. Grinding up and killing a lot of their male yutes, devastating the landscape by artillery shelling and mines, destroying infrastructure, and emptying their treasuries. Russia is likely to become a vassal of China and Ukraine a basket case hustling for charity like Lebanon.
Quite a legacy.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 02:13 PM (Q9+wR)
Depends on which nefarity you're talking about.
Part of Ukraines' problem is that they are millions of acres of flat fertile farmland with literally no defensive geological features whatsoever.
So their problems only get worse from there.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 21, 2023 02:13 PM (ou9hh)
Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2023 02:13 PM (brAQZ)
They have no capacity for self reflection. Every idea they have (in their own mind) is righteous and just. There is no check on their behavior.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 21, 2023 02:13 PM (2OL6m)
Yeah, I think that Zelensky's threat that Ukrainian refugees would take unspecified actions against their host countries if aid to Ukraine was cut didn't go over very well.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 21, 2023 02:14 PM (2tUFv)
Cool place. I loved it. Beautiful women who dress nice. Good food and drink. Pretty country.
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 21, 2023 02:14 PM (NtVYv)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (xcxpd)
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Selfishly, if we weren't in NATO, why not just ignore it. But right now, anything I can do to weaken Russia and China that doesn't cost me any soldiers is a positive thing. Neither country will be missed in their present configurations. And letting them survive just means we will have to deal with them later. This deal in watching Russia smash themselves to bits against a weaker enemy makes me feel better.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 02:14 PM (GZYu7)
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (+MSSo)
This was discussed, ad nauseum, when the whole thing started. Sadly, there was a lot of "it's okay when we do it".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2023 02:15 PM (zhLdt)
Yeah, I think that Zelensky's threat that Ukrainian refugees would take unspecified actions against their host countries if aid to Ukraine was cut didn't go over very well.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 21, 2023 02:14 PM (2tUFv)
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"I was okay with it. I could have given him a list of targets."
-Mitch
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:15 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Darth Randall
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Remember the the Soviet Union developed a virus that killed 3M-7M people?
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 21, 2023 02:15 PM (+MSSo)
The man was mad enough about it to make a large, upset gesture about it.
https://is.gd/PKGVnS
Posted by: bonhomme at September 21, 2023 02:15 PM (0N1h0)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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Once upon a time, the world depended on a relaying free flow of oil from the Persian gulf. We told ourselves lies about opposing tyrants and such, but we all knew the spice needed to flow, by any means necessary.
Then the frackers and PDT proved it didn't have to be that way.
The world has yet to forgive them for doing that.
Posted by: Michelle Fields at September 21, 2023 02:16 PM (gn1Ys)
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 21, 2023 02:16 PM (+MSSo)
Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at September 21, 2023 02:16 PM (Vu7A1)
Posted by: runner at September 21, 2023 02:16 PM (t459v)
Posted by: Disinformation Expert, Formerly Virginian at September 21, 2023 02:12 PM (N1DT3)
Joe said a minor incursion was ok
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 21, 2023 02:16 PM (NtVYv)
"Mind our own business", although not a popular opinion here until recently, is not exactly revisionism. Yet the folks that applaud our entry into every conflict around the globe constantly use the "well sure, in hindsight" excuse about how the latest foreign adventure turned out just as shitty as every failed quixotic foray before.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at September 21, 2023 02:16 PM (HCAuk)
Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 21, 2023 02:16 PM (gn1Ys)
Posted by: Notsothoreau
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Ukrainian foreign policy like that of Belarus has a unique way just like Russia does of threatening all those around them.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 02:16 PM (Q9+wR)
yes they were horrible once- communism, Stalin, the pogroms, the Iron Curtain, all that
but history and time moves on- the USSR fell apart, and they're trying to pick up the pieces
so the Rus want their sphere of influence- I say, let Europe figure that out. In Europe. We have enough problems here. Russia, to me, is a rival, an antagonist, but not an enemy. China is the enemy.
Unless I'm Wrong.™
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 02:17 PM (geLO8)
https://tinyurl.com/Glory-to-the-Urine
"Ukraine" misspelled in Times Square display.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2023 02:17 PM (olf63)
My conclusion: The impeachment was an obvious sham.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 21, 2023 02:00 PM (2OL6m)
One of the articles of impeachment was that he had accepted a bribe by getting his house renovated. Every Democrat voted guilty. All this despite the fact that it was proven that the house had never been renovated.
The impeachment was an obvious sham.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2023 02:17 PM (zhLdt)
Posted by: Inigo Montoya at September 21, 2023 02:18 PM (YcYZY)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 21, 2023 02:18 PM (9/y3s)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 01:55 PM
If large countries are allowed to freely invade and conquer smaller nations without serious consequence, the world becomes a lot less stable, and everyone starts massive military spending, ultimately slowing the progress and development of humanity.
I don't like America being the world police, but it's filled that role since WW2, and it's been one of the most peaceful, and productive, periods in world history for a reason.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at September 21, 2023 02:19 PM (Qx6K/)
Whatever happened to taking your enemies capitol, then having them sign a treaty giving you just the territory you wanted in the first place?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 21, 2023 02:19 PM (Bd6X8)
It's amusing that the US government helped make sure that Lula was installed as President of Brazil when Lula has always been a huge, huge Putin supporter.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 21, 2023 02:19 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 21, 2023 02:19 PM (lnQL+)
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 02:19 PM (geLO8)
Russia tried that initially, and failed.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 21, 2023 02:20 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 02:01 PM (xcxpd)
They also wanted to get the Ukes to stop shelling the people in Donbas because they're ethnic Russians.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2023 02:20 PM (zhLdt)
Minding our own business. All of these places have grudges with each other that predate the US's existence by millennia.
They like their grudges, they want to keep their grudges, and they enjoy bringing them out every few year as an excuse for whacking their neighbors for the latest round of "what horrible thing their Johnny said about our Sally".
You don't get in the middle of that kind of fight, not unless you like having both sides turn on you.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 21, 2023 02:20 PM (ou9hh)
Despicable enemy in what meaningful sense as contrasted by, say, the current iteration of the Democrat Party?
Like, is Vladamir Putin putting Gender Queer in public libraries or Spending The US into oblivion?
I mean, I get there are some Cold War Uber Alis diehards who haven't updated their firmware since the mid-80's but I thought that was mainly humps like Lindsey Graham and Mitch The Glitch and the rest of the GOPe chuckleheads.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2023 02:20 PM (rc3Z7)
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 02:19 PM (geLO
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Quoting George Washington's farewell address is insurrectionist sedition.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:20 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: bonhomme at September 21, 2023 02:02 PM (0N1h0)
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Sure, gas weapons, tactical level field nukes. Nasty stuff indeed. If they unleash them we will go in and end it, quickly, and Putin will probably be gone in the process. Russia has to win this with conventional arms, which they should have been able to do by now. It's all a matter of where the line is going to be drawn, and how much longer we are happy - and able since it will run out - to send them decommissioned military equipment.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 02:20 PM (GZYu7)
Posted by: Blanco Basura
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They tried and failed. Same as the Germans did in WWI by never reaching Paris.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 02:20 PM (Q9+wR)
Posted by: Blanc
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Worked for Napoleon !
Posted by: runner at September 21, 2023 02:20 PM (t459v)
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 21, 2023 02:10 PM (xT7BI)
That's basically U.S. position now. Bleed both sides, and hope Russia succumbs first.
It's no longer about "protecting democracy." It's no longer about helping the Ukrainian people. It's about letting Ukraine be the cannon fodder for our Military Industrial Complex.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 02:21 PM (eQTRt)
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 02:21 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: runner at September 21, 2023 02:20 PM (t459v)
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Why did Napoleon retreat from Moscow?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:21 PM (LvTSG)
https://tinyurl.com/Glory-to-the-Urine
"Ukraine" misspelled in Times Square display.
Posted by: Sharkman
Its new York. I assume they celebrate urine there based on the smell.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 21, 2023 02:21 PM (lnQL+)
Posted by: Moron Analyst at September 21, 2023 02:19 PM (Qx6K/)
And now the bill has come due. Because, get this, the rest of the globe simply doesn't want our imposed order. So fantastic. A couple generations go to live life more affluently than their parents. And several generations of their children will pay for it, as the empire crumbles.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at September 21, 2023 02:22 PM (HCAuk)
Posted by: Boswell at September 21, 2023 02:22 PM (K+UlC)
If you're worried about
Posted by: DaveA at September 21, 2023 02:22 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at September 21, 2023 02:22 PM (2YtOq)
Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist
Just more ghey ops. Same as Tuesday.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 21, 2023 02:22 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: DaveA at September 21, 2023 02:22 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: BruceWayne
That's the best news I have heard all week.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 21, 2023 02:22 PM (lnQL+)
Posted by: The_Hoser at September 21, 2023 02:23 PM (N66D6)
Posted by: Black JEM
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Russia traditionally has sucked in invading others unless like Napoleon or the Germans, bled themselves first by invading Russia.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 02:23 PM (Q9+wR)
And several RINOs went along with it, and are bitter now that Paxton's been victorious.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 21, 2023 02:23 PM (Q4IgG)
Wish we had 99 more like him.
Or hell, even one more would help.
Posted by: No Name Today at September 21, 2023 02:23 PM (vlXMQ)
Posted by: brak at September 21, 2023 02:23 PM (BouGb)
It also means that we get to deindustrialize Germany, by taking away its cheap energy imports, to the benefit of the United States.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 21, 2023 02:23 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2023 02:24 PM (Hkcdp)
Knock Knock
Who's there?
Your Balls
Your Balls who?
Your Balls are going to freeze off when I get there
Posted by: The Russian Winter at September 21, 2023 02:24 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 02:21 PM
We have COVID forever to ensure the pharmaceutical companies are constantly funded, and continuous conflicts to ensure the MIC is funded. How many other entities does our government prop up (let alone government agencies that ensure they never solve the issues they were created to).
Posted by: Moron Analyst at September 21, 2023 02:24 PM (Qx6K/)
Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at September 21, 2023 02:24 PM (fKIdX)
Where would the Proffit be in that?
We would dick around with the UN for 6-10 months and then go in like an old man pushing rope.
10-12 years down the road, we would pivot to a Peacekeeping Mission or maybe announce a new offensive.
5-6 years after that, we would retreat and leave our enemies all of our Military Hardware.
Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2023 02:24 PM (YcYZY)
Joe and his cronies at home and abroad are riding the tiger. They can't stop supporting a fight against EVIL POOOTIN, yet they know Ukraine has a near-zero chance of winning (per Zelensky's stated victory conditions. And if the near-impossible did occur, Putin and the Russian people will not meekly accept a military defeat in Ukraine. The Russians will escalate as soon as they believe they can lose, and US, NATO, and world opinion be damned. IMO.
Posted by: GL at September 21, 2023 02:24 PM (5fDan)
Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 21, 2023 02:24 PM (gn1Ys)
https://tinyurl.com/Glory-to-the-Urine
"Ukraine" misspelled in Times Square display.
Posted by: Sharkman
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Well, the display ain't wrong . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 02:24 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: The Russian Winter! at September 21, 2023 02:24 PM (2tUFv)
cold war uber alice > cold war uber alis
Posted by: anachronda at September 21, 2023 02:25 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: bonhomme at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (0N1h0)
All their hot women become whores for rich westerners, voluntarily or not. Grumpiness might be a bit understood.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2023 02:25 PM (zhLdt)
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 02:25 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2023 02:25 PM (Hkcdp)
Sh*tter's FULL': John Fetterman takes advantage of new 'dress code' and comments on his attire are GOLD
https://tinyurl.com/bdhueda2
Posted by: redridinghood at September 21, 2023 02:25 PM (NpAcC)
Women? As in...adults?
Posted by: Your betters importing Ukrainian tweens at September 21, 2023 02:26 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: Jack Package at September 21, 2023 02:09 PM (8LP6B)
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C'mon. Please. That is what countries do. Mess with other countries. In fact, when the Soviet Union fell, HW was interested in trying to bring them into the orbit of nations. But then the oligarchs in Russia essentially raped the country blind, so we pretty much walked away.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 02:26 PM (GZYu7)
Posted by: runner at September 21, 2023 02:26 PM (t459v)
Posted by: brak at September 21, 2023 02:23 PM (BouGb)
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I believe Putin was baited into a war with Ukraine with end game of overthrowing him and installing someone more open to globohomo and the WEF.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at September 21, 2023 02:26 PM (2YtOq)
Hi there!
Posted by: The Russian Winter! at September 21, 2023 02:24 PM (2tUFv)
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The Moscow population didn't retreat from Moscow when winter came.
Why not take up winter quarters in Moscow?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:26 PM (LvTSG)
Just as the US is not as highly thought of by Poles as we think it is, Russia is not as negatively thought of by Poles as we think it is, either.
Instead, Poland truly wants to be its own country as equals (if not superior) to both.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 01:59 PM (exHjb)
There's a short story (I think by Alan Dean Foster) where Poland gets control of a super weapon in space that they use to keep the earth in check and as justification notes that it is the only country never to have fought a war of aggression.
(I don't know if it's true, but it was a fun story)
Posted by: Disinformation Expert, Formerly Virginian at September 21, 2023 02:26 PM (N1DT3)
The biggest mistake Napoleon made was that he took Moscow, the Russians refused to negotiate, and he knew Moscow didn't have the supplies to let the French Army winter there.
He stayed in Moscow for a month of beautiful fall weather, instead of getting his army's ass back to Poland.
Posted by: The Russian Winter! at September 21, 2023 02:26 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2023 02:20 PM (rc3Z7)
The same people who fall for the bogeyman scare that Russia is going to take Poland next, with absolutely NO evidence whatsoever, other than Nikki Haley says so.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 02:27 PM (wy5wi)
Or hell, even one more would help.
Posted by: No Name Today at September 21, 2023 02:23 PM
And on the other side of things, I posted a DU comment wishing they had 50 more like Fetterman in the Senate. A confederacy of dunces...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 21, 2023 02:27 PM (Qx6K/)
Why not take up winter quarters in Moscow?
Presuming you are seriously asking...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_of_Moscow_(1812)
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2023 02:27 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2023 01:57 PM (x0n13)
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That was the Kuwaiti ambassador to the US's daughter. We weren't told that at the time, of course. We weren't told a lot of things.
Posted by: Jack Package at September 21, 2023 02:27 PM (8LP6B)
He stayed in Moscow for a month of beautiful fall weather, instead of getting his army's ass back to Poland.
Posted by: The Russian Winter! at September 21, 2023 02:26 PM (2tUFv)
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Ah, a supplies issue. Not enough to pillage in the city itself while maintaining order, I guess.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:27 PM (LvTSG)
I closed my accounts with them in August, and I received a $12.00 service fee because the idiots didn't actually close them, they just had zero balances.
So, I called up their 800 number and went through their stupid process to get things closed. They did ask why I closed them and it gave me a chance to rant. I hope they play the tape back and they enjoy it.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 21, 2023 02:27 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: nurse ratched, sea otter Awareness WEEK starts Sunday! at September 21, 2023 01:43 PM (xK2Dd)
According to the Mayo Clinic:
"An adequate daily fluid intake is: About 15.5 cups (3.7 liters) of fluids a day for men. About 11.5 cups (2.7 liters) of fluids a day for women."
So, however you're self-identifying at this time.
Posted by: m at September 21, 2023 02:28 PM (SbC6h)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 21, 2023 02:11 PM (Ds/Wi)
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Well typically the country invading with covert and then uniformed troops into another country is called the invader.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 02:28 PM (GZYu7)
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2023 02:27 PM (XqcwY)
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I'd forgotten about the fire. And it's a big part of War and Peace, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:28 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 21, 2023 02:18 PM (9/y3s)
In my experience, Polish girls love the meat.
And they're nice about it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 02:28 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Boswell at September 21, 2023 02:28 PM (K+UlC)
Why not take up winter quarters in Moscow?
The Moscow population did flee the city, and torched the city as they left.
Not enough supplies in Moscow, and the Cossacks were starting to interdict the supply lines.
Posted by: The Russian Winter! at September 21, 2023 02:28 PM (2tUFv)
It nothing but a mafia territorial conflict.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 21, 2023 02:28 PM (BdMk6)
The Republican Party (and even a handful of patriots) recognize what most thinking dissidents do, only one year removed.
It's nice to be a "stone-ignorant" commenter, as I have been described here.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 21, 2023 02:29 PM (h7L2Y)
>>The same people who fall for the bogeyman scare that Russia is going to take Poland next, with absolutely NO evidence whatsoever, other than Nikki Haley says so.
Ersatz Howard Vladamir Dean: First we're going to take te Donbas, then we're going to take Kiev, then we're going to take Poland, then we're going to take Nashville, then we're going to take Mishiwaka.... YEARGHHHHHH!!!!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2023 02:29 PM (rc3Z7)
https://tinyurl.com/bdhueda2
Posted by: redridinghood
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hahaha, Fetterman's Monster is literally holding a head in that un-manipulated photo.
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 21, 2023 02:29 PM (+MSSo)
You can explain much of the current chaos in US Politics by considering the actions of men and women in power, aged 60+, who view the 2020s through a lens of the 1980s.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at September 21, 2023 02:29 PM (HCAuk)
Posted by: Poland at September 21, 2023 02:30 PM (RIJkV)
However, acting like Ukraine isn't a catspaw for the globalist left and a hotbed for profiteering and money laundering by the people that fancy themselves as the New World Order in order to justify unlimited blank checks to support their effort against Russia just pisses me off to no end. Zelenskyyyyyy is a corrupt piece of shit with hubris the size of the moon, coming here to poor-mouth me and my children into backstopping his war effort.
Posted by: ballistic at September 21, 2023 02:30 PM (oXNqT)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 21, 2023 02:10 PM (ICNGn)
Democratic, not democratic. The capital makes all the difference.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2023 02:30 PM (zhLdt)
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Inflation is also 3%
Posted by: Family members won't listen to Gandalf anymore at September 21, 2023 02:30 PM (+MSSo)
Wikipedia's retconned Mussorgsky's piece into "The Great Gate Of Kyiv". I can't even with all the KEEV.
"Hawai'i" is on the rise too.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2023 02:30 PM (2ocoG)
Follow us for more tips on how not to get NATO membership
Posted by: Ukraine at September 21, 2023 02:30 PM (87w4A)
https://is.gd/1GOEau
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 02:30 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Boswell at September 21, 2023 02:28 PM (K+UlC)
I got my hopes up!
Posted by: m at September 21, 2023 02:30 PM (SbC6h)
Also the FNM: If we don't nuke Vlad now he'll be in Kansas City by Christmas...err...Winter Break
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2023 02:30 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 02:26 PM (GZYu7)
Sorry, that's not true. There were agreements in place, once the Soviet Union fell, to secure nooks from various areas of the former Soviet Union (including Ukraine), and the U.S. agreed they would not move one inch to the east, as long as Russia let us take control of the nooks.
All that has happened since then is... we've moved thousands of miles to the east, including... wait for it, taking control of Ukraine.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 02:31 PM (wy5wi)
https://is.gd/1GOEau
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 02:30 PM (t0OGg)
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Impractical sleeve-shirt-thing.
3/10
Would not bang.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:31 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: ballistic
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Nice summary.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 02:31 PM (Q9+wR)
Posted by: For dinner tonight at September 21, 2023 02:31 PM (bhQTG)
ah. the n-dimensional chess ploy. been a while since i've seen that one.
Posted by: anachronda at September 21, 2023 02:31 PM (v3pYe)
Honestly an obviously male tranny with almost Canadian-scale fake boobs is right on target for today's "intelligence community". (Every time I see that phrase, I hear the Team America line 'We have lost intelligence, I repeat, we have no intelligence').
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2023 02:32 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2023 02:30 PM (XqcwY)
I don't want to see them jumpin around like a bunch of Kansas City faggots!!
Posted by: Taggart at September 21, 2023 02:32 PM (ufFY8)
3/10
Would not bang.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:31 PM (LvTSG)
Women get cold weird.
It's definitely a look. Mannix seems to be in a body stocking mode.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 02:32 PM (zZu0s)
The contract doesn’t mention specific sites for the giant camps and their tents, and none have been chosen, according to Mayor Brandon Johnson’s press secretary Ronnie Reese.
https://tinyurl.com/y54m2f2d
Posted by: redridinghood at September 21, 2023 02:33 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 02:33 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: bloated fumaceous gunt at September 21, 2023 02:33 PM (nakGR)
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 02:33 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: anachronda at September 21, 2023 02:31 PM (v3pYe
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Joe has openly talked about regime change in Russia.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at September 21, 2023 02:33 PM (2YtOq)
Posted by: Chairman Winnie the Pooh at September 21, 2023 02:34 PM (fs1hN)
To be fair, Obama couldn't resist Z's dick-on-the-piano act.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2023 02:34 PM (2ocoG)
If there is one thing the last few years I've become convinced of its that most things are exactly what they seem.
Putin invaded because the US is weak and the Neo-NAZIs in Ukraine gave him a casus belli
Biden get a brazillion votes by mail because his allies cast them
Costs are going up by 10% or more a year because inflation is 10% or more
and so on
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2023 02:34 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at September 21, 2023 02:34 PM (HCAuk)
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 02:14 PM (GZYu7)
Better to have them ruled by someone like Biden? Or Trudeau? Or whatever that weasel's name is in France?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2023 02:34 PM (zhLdt)
Isn't this pretty much kids-in-cages with extra graft?
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2023 02:34 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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Putin's advance would bog down in Indiana, brought to a halt by dumbass Hoosiers driving 15 under the speed limit in the passing lane.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 21, 2023 02:34 PM (gn1Ys)
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 02:35 PM (geLO8)
https://is.gd/1GOEau
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The girls are begging to be let out.
Posted by: Chairman Winnie the Pooh at September 21, 2023 02:35 PM (fs1hN)
All limbs intact. Pulse confirmed. 1/1.
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at September 21, 2023 02:34 PM (HCAuk)
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Just to be clear, I was talking about the Mannix girl, not the tranny propogandist.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:35 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Black JEM
What if, just what if, you could only pick one?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 21, 2023 02:35 PM (IG4Id)
Also, although the current Polish government is anti-Russia, it's the opposition that is the pro-WEF, pro-EU party. Doing favors for Ukraine does not help the governing party with their base.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 21, 2023 02:12 PM (2tUFv)
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And this is time where the pols know more than the voters - Poland needs people too.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 02:35 PM (GZYu7)
Putin's advance would bog down in Indiana, brought to a halt by dumbass Hoosiers driving 15 under the speed limit in the passing lane.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 21, 2023 02:34 PM (gn1Ys)
More likely the construction on 465 around Indy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 02:35 PM (zZu0s)
>>This is a United States Senator https://tinyurl.com/yeyu4y8b
You know what, I actually approve of this, that f**king slob meat sack is the perfect encapsulation of how bankrupt and corrupt the entire stinking edifice has become.
In fact, I would enjoy nothing more than that disgusting animal lose control of his bowels and let loose a gigantic steaming pile right there in the Senate Chambers.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2023 02:36 PM (rc3Z7)
Isn't Milley the man who bragged he ignored direct orders from PDJT? Isn't Milley that man who secretly assured Chinese military leaders he would protect China from America? That doesn't sound patriotic, that sounds like treason.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 02:36 PM (J5uWt)
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2023 02:36 PM (2ocoG)
and so on
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2023 02:34 PM
Nonsense! Biden says inflation is low, and getting lower. Except that greedy corporations are artificially raising prices on everything because they're evil.
Posted by: Brain dead lefty LIV at September 21, 2023 02:37 PM (Qx6K/)
Dude!?! Look, Junkie John's on TV! No seriously man he grew a porn stash but like that's him wearing his same dumpy shit.
What the hell he's a senator?!?
Shit man, he still owes me a doobie.
Posted by: A couple of Philly voters whose ballots had votes for Fetterman at September 21, 2023 02:37 PM (XqcwY)
https://tinyurl.com/yeyu4y8b
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 02:33 PM (geLO
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He's pants-challenged!
Posted by: Axeman at September 21, 2023 02:37 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 21, 2023 02:11 PM (Ds/Wi)
Ukraine has a faction that has been around since just before WWII called Banderites (named for Stepan Bandera, a particularly vicious partisan). Before WWII what is now western Ukraine was part of Poland. The rest of what is now Ukraine was part of Imperial Russia. Ukrainian nationalists thought that they should have their own country. Poles are Catholic; Russia and Ukrainians are (mostly) Eastern Orthodox. So the Banderites began slaughtering Poles in the western areas (my Great-Aunt and her two children among them). This went on until Nazi Germany invaded and the Banderites began slaughtering Jews (Babi Yar was actually done by Ukrainians at the behest of the Nazis. The Ukrainians did this so well that an entire volunteer SS division was raised).
What Ukraine did to start this war was the Banderites were doing the same thing to the Russian speaking majority in the east after 2014. Ukraine is an abomination that needs to cease existing.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at September 21, 2023 02:37 PM (l7Kbv)
In fact, I would enjoy nothing more than that disgusting animal lose control of his bowels and let loose a gigantic steaming pile right there in the Senate Chambers.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2023 02:36 PM (rc3Z7)
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More likely out of DiFi, but yeah. I will acknowledge that Fetterman is showing the office the respect it deserves.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 02:38 PM (t0OGg)
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Treason is Patriotic!
Posted by: added to the WEF Party slogan at September 21, 2023 02:38 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Nuking the whole place from orbit makes more and more sense.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 21, 2023 02:38 PM (gn1Ys)
Posted by: nurse ratched, sea otter Awareness WEEK starts Sunday! at September 21, 2023 01:43 PM (xK2Dd)
Yoot !
Posted by: JT at September 21, 2023 02:38 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: Axeman at September 21, 2023 02:39 PM (krQz2)
https://tinyurl.com/yeyu4y8b
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 02:33 PM (geLO
I'm impressed, that shirt actually has buttons.
At this rate of progress, Fetterman's Monster will be singing "Puttin' on the Ritz" in no time.
Posted by: spindrift at September 21, 2023 02:39 PM (EGPRf)
Posted by: nurse ratched, sea otter Awareness WEEK starts Sunday! at September 21, 2023 02:39 PM (CDGpN)
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at September 21, 2023 02:39 PM (UCNv1)
Posted by: nurse ratched, sea otter Awareness WEEK starts Sunday! at September 21, 2023 01:43 PM (xK2Dd)
Yoot !
Posted by: JT at September 21, 2023 02:38 PM (T4tVD)
Poop!
Posted by: Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 02:39 PM (5fDan)
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 02:35 PM (geLO
Everyone sing:
Pennsylvania, you got the rest of the union, to help you along...
What's going wrong?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 02:39 PM (wy5wi)
Because people have been banned for much less.
For example, Nick Fuentes is banned from all social media for making holocaust jokes. Which is tasteless, sure, but he didn't threaten to murder anyone for spreading the wrong ideas.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 21, 2023 02:40 PM (mj0Qp)
Fire....Fire ERRRRRRR FIRE BAD
Posted by: Fetterman's speech on the HI inferno at September 21, 2023 02:40 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 21, 2023 02:20 PM (2tUFv)
So it has been reported.
I also saw it reported that the push towards Kiev was a feint to allow them to capture Donbas more easily. Given that they "retreated" as soon as Donbas was secured, there might be something to that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2023 02:40 PM (zhLdt)
Or "CAT" for that matter.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at September 21, 2023 02:39 PM (UCNv1)
M.O.O.N. That spells Ukraine!
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 02:40 PM (wy5wi)
Or "CAT" for that matter.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at September 21, 2023 02:39 PM (UCNv1)
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Or the letter A.
Posted by: Axeman at September 21, 2023 02:41 PM (krQz2)
When the US is at war the FNM reports every bit of American strategy as soon as they can get their hands on it.
Russia isn't sharing their strategy and the FNM is approaching the Uke side with WWII level censorship so it is hard to get the truth about anything.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2023 02:41 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 21, 2023 02:41 PM (nnp+f)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 02:35 PM
Speaking of tranny propagandists...did you know Dylan Mulvaney was on The Price is Right? I just saw the clips on YouTube...he's very masculine and totally hetero (lol)
https://tinyurl.com/3a8xdw2k
Posted by: Moron Analyst at September 21, 2023 02:42 PM (Qx6K/)
those bastards are always talking about 'decorum' and shit---
I mean, I despise the US Senate with the burning white hot intensity of a thousand suns, but for fuck's sake, at least dress properly for work
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 02:42 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 21, 2023 02:42 PM (mCz8T)
In fact, I would enjoy nothing more than that disgusting animal lose control of his bowels and let loose a gigantic steaming pile right there in the Senate Chambers.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2023 02:36 PM (rc3Z7)
++++
More likely out of DiFi, but yeah. I will acknowledge that Fetterman is showing the office the respect it deserves.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 02:38 PM (t0OGg)
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Agree. But that is one ugly man with a body that nobody would believe was an alien. That fat, sloppy upper body and those tiny, spindly legs. Does the retard not even care how he looks? At least wear clothes that hide or deemphasize your least attractive features. That's why most smart short guys always wear shirts or other clothes with vertical stripes, because it makes their body look longer. For the same reason, they avoid solids or horizontal stripes like the plague.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 02:42 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: redridinghood at September 21, 2023 02:42 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 02:36 PM (J5uWt)
I saw the other day, Gen Milli saying the U.S. is not going to stop sending money/material to Ukraine.
Since when did Generals make decisions about funding?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 02:42 PM (wy5wi)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 21, 2023 02:42 PM (d2bW3)
Or "CAT" for that matter.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at September 21, 2023 02:39 PM (UCNv1)
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Piss off.
Posted by: Terry Bradshaw at September 21, 2023 02:42 PM (ovV/V)
Posted by: JB at September 21, 2023 02:40 PM (O3uss)
Well, all I can say is that sort of plan didn't work out well for me in the long run.
Posted by: A former paper-hanger at September 21, 2023 02:43 PM (5fDan)
In fact, I would enjoy nothing more than that disgusting animal lose control of his bowels and let loose a gigantic steaming pile right there in the Senate Chambers.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2023 02:36 PM (rc3Z7)
_________________
"That would be LIT, yo!"
-- Amber Heard
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 02:43 PM (iFTx/)
I cannot even blame anyone for that one.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 02:43 PM (zZu0s)
LOL.
Long Island Audit causing trouble exercising his rights.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 21, 2023 02:43 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2023 02:40 PM (zhLdt)
I'm basically of the belief, in spite of underestimating the extent to which the U.S. was going to be committed to this war, Russia has accomplished basically everything they set out to do.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 02:44 PM (wy5wi)
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2023 02:44 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 21, 2023 02:23 PM (Q4IgG)
Harder to gaslight your voters over how you're a staunch defender of righteousness when pretty much only Democrats voted to convict.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2023 02:44 PM (zhLdt)
You know how hard it is for some of us to do that and still defy mask mandates?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 21, 2023 02:44 PM (Bd6X8)
Novgorod, somewhat near modern St Petersburg, was the other important early city.
Moscow came MUCH later.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2023 02:44 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 21, 2023 02:45 PM (MeG8a)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 02:45 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 02:35 PM (geLO
Everyone sing:
Pennsylvania, you got the rest of the union, to help you along...
What's going wrong?
Posted by: BurtTC
Philadelphia.
Posted by: Pennsylvania at September 21, 2023 02:45 PM (sAmhv)
Yes, Ukraine, lawsuits always bring people closer together. It's what they're known to do.
Laughable. Yes, bullying and suing people has always been a winning remedy for solidarity. Poland and other countries have every right to look after their citizens and their own national interest.
Z's appearance this week at the UN/WH displayed his usual schtick. Wear war costume, talk about the climate change crisis (massive grift and has to get a piece of the pie), more war funding (grift), and God knows what else.
Posted by: Cheri at September 21, 2023 02:45 PM (oiNtH)
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Its all about Sevastopol, warm water port, and a border area around it. Russians really don't want Ukraine as a vassal state that requires constant investment. They just want their Crimea warm water port free of meddling outsiders - like the US and Brits. They've seen the Brit effort before. Clinton (CIA) set this thorn up to keep American leverage on Russia. Then there's the pissed off Manhattan Hedge Funders who were denied access to all those Russian mineral and agricultural assets.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 02:45 PM (AMd6i)
Both refuse to accept that the United States and the globalists are benevolent hegemonies that only have the best of intentions for the world.
I think we can all agree that Putin is just flat out unfounded in his paranoia.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 21, 2023 02:46 PM (Gf3mx)
You know how hard it is for some of us to do that and still defy mask mandates?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 21, 2023 02:44 PM
I'm sure Fetterman would fully support mask mandates.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at September 21, 2023 02:46 PM (Qx6K/)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 02:40 PM (wy5wi)
Laws yes, it does!
Posted by: DaisyB at September 21, 2023 02:46 PM (AbL8c)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2023 02:46 PM (Hkcdp)
Evil Shrek votes the way he is told to vote.
Hey did his wife ever come home from her tour of world penises?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2023 02:47 PM (XqcwY)
The Marine F35 B version has an "auto eject" feature, wherein the plane can eject the pilot without a command to do so. The Air Force and Navy versions of the plane do not have this feature.
Is that why they are being so mysterious about the crash?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 02:47 PM (J5uWt)
https://tinyurl.com/yeyu4y8b
Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 02:33 PM (geLO
Why is he carrying a face-on-a-stick mask? And I feel like I should recognize the face on the mask but I can't recall who it is.
Posted by: Emmie at September 21, 2023 02:48 PM (Sf2cq)
Brazilian women named "Gisele" are major trouble. Tom Brady out front shoulda told him.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2023 02:49 PM (2ocoG)
Nah - they thought that they could seize Kiev in a coup-de-main with paratroops, and had their asses handed to them, with lots of dead paratroops.
It turned out that the Ukes were willing to fight.
Posted by: The Russian Winter! at September 21, 2023 02:49 PM (2tUFv)
Wait, the computer can just yeet the pilot any time it wants, or is this a remote control thing?
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2023 02:50 PM (2ocoG)
It turned out that the Ukes were willing to fight.
My memory is the US send them intel on the paratroopers and then US supplied anti-air killed a bunch of them before they could land.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2023 02:51 PM (XqcwY)
Software failure, which is more than a little embarrassing.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 21, 2023 02:51 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2023 02:51 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 02:45 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: m at September 21, 2023 02:52 PM (SbC6h)
Possibly. The paras had been on exercises in Belarus, and were only told inflight that they were assaulting Ukraine.
It might have been a better idea to let the paratroops mentally prepare for combat a day or so ahead, instead of giving them fifteen minutes notice.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 21, 2023 02:53 PM (2tUFv)
This really is an intelligence test, and we can't make it any simpler for them.
Posted by: t-bird at September 21, 2023 02:53 PM (Sv58p)
And now for the headlines... Trannies, trannies, and more trannies.
Now with our doom and gloom weather report here's Trixie Bulgingpanties.
Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at September 21, 2023 02:54 PM (Vu7A1)
Can't do that Dave, you need to eject
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2023 02:54 PM (fwDg9)
Why, I get the feeling that this might be an Op.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 01:46 PM (zZu0s)
I was told that the world would starve because Ukraine, being in the midst of an existential crisis, cannot produce wheat. So how do they export wheat?
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 21, 2023 02:55 PM (Mzdiz)
So it is time to scrounge up the left few dollars (grain imports) before the Ukrainian officials all beat a hasty retreat to avoid receiving their deserved Mussolini treatment.
I just hope they can successfully negotiate enough land out of the Russians to make sure BlackRock and Gates get their Ukrainian farm land.
Who are the despicable people again?
On second viewing - Russia is the despicable enemy. Biden, the Neocons, BlackRock, Lockheed, the Nazis, etc. that forced this unnecessary war are the despicable people on our side.
Finally, I understand.
Posted by: eddie at September 21, 2023 02:56 PM (4+Tgo)
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2023 02:44 PM (fwDg9)
M O O N
That spells Mom.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Neanderthal, Just Ruggedly Handsome at September 21, 2023 02:58 PM (xPJvm)
Posted by: Dr. T at September 21, 2023 02:04 PM (bhRsz
I'm still waiting on it to hit the streaming services.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 21, 2023 02:06 PM (5xURv)
Find a theater playing it in 70mm. You won't be disappointed. A projectionist friend of mine ran the 70mm shows in Paramus and I had the chance to sit in and watch it on the big screen and Dolby multichannel sound. Absolutely incredible. Watching it on a TV screen just isn't the same.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at September 21, 2023 03:00 PM (Zvtjl)
Quite a legacy.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 02:13 PM (Q9+wR)
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I can live with that - though I don't think anyone is going to be China's vassal state. China's going to become someone elses at some point.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 03:02 PM (GZYu7)
That was their miscalculation, that we'd be willing to let Ukraine be bled to death.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 02:13 PM (eQTRt)
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It's always difficult to know what ones adversaries might do. Russia probably felt like there was no good time to do this but Biden might be the time to try. The miscalculation on what we would do is probably fatal. But that's what happens. It has become obvious that we would destroy Russia in days if we actually physically assisted in Ukraine, and the whole world, and especially Russia, knows it. History has many examples of similar miscalculations. Remember France 1940?
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 03:06 PM (GZYu7)
Posted by: DOYLE at September 21, 2023 03:10 PM (Z8Yh2)
Posted by: Spoiler Alert at September 21, 2023 02:22 PM (HCAuk)
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Nope - The US is going to be the best place to be for the rest of our lifetimes. We actually are retrenching from the world, investing at home,and bringing jobs back. No one can realistically threaten us. Good times.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 03:11 PM (GZYu7)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 21, 2023 03:15 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Black JEM
What if, just what if, you could only pick one?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 21, 2023 02:35 PM (IG4Id)
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Russia - China is dying harder all by itself, losing their access to us as our manufacturing subcontractor. They can neither heat nor feed itself without massive inflows of goods, goods that will get significantly more expensive and less easy to import - all why half their population disappears.
Russia can at least feed and heat itself. They produce almost nothing of interest to the world besides raw materials. So let them live in their borders and be unable to go beyond them.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 03:15 PM (GZYu7)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 21, 2023 02:23 PM (2tUFv)
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The end of the EU with the financial difficulties of southern Europe didn't help. This probably seals the deal.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 03:17 PM (GZYu7)
Posted by: ballistic at September 21, 2023 02:30 PM (oXNqT)
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Of course it is. Everything we do falls into this category.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 03:21 PM (GZYu7)
All that has happened since then is... we've moved thousands of miles to the east, including... wait for it, taking control of Ukraine.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 02:31 PM (wy5wi)
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Sorry that is true - and we convinced the Ukes to give up their nukes in exchange for security decrees from us.
I'm never going to argue that power hungry games at that level are full of deception and double crossing. It's how it works. You would do well to read some of the emerging commentary on the Yeltsin regime. And the early Putin regime. We're there mistakes made, sure. Did everyone ignore Minsk I and II - yep.
Was Putin always looking for a chance to re-secure Russia like the Soviets felt they were? Yep. Was Putin's price for "peace" to be given control to essentially approve or disapprove of the defense policies of eastern and central Europe? Sure was.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 03:25 PM (GZYu7)
as from our discussion made here.
Posted by: Mexico at September 21, 2023 03:26 PM (agovq)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2023 02:34 PM (zhLdt)
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Better to have them ruled by anybody, where they can't project much power at all.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 03:27 PM (GZYu7)
"gnash their teeth"
"foam at the mouth"
This doesn't sound anything like what a foreign military spokesperson would say. It sounds like something that a dilettante weirdo would think a foreign military spokesperson would say.
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at September 21, 2023 03:35 PM (mSay6)
Posted by: Rbastid at September 21, 2023 03:45 PM (Y+s+o)
Posted by: Sherpa_k2 at September 21, 2023 03:51 PM (Jl4nD)
Posted by: Don Draper at September 21, 2023 03:52 PM (SpDH3)
The day after Biden gave $6Billion and six Iranians to Iran...
"I Told him, if those guys aren't fired you're not getting the six Billion...sonuffabeech....They were fired!"
Posted by: birddog at September 21, 2023 03:53 PM (1E8/t)
Ukraine is becoming like a sports team you're somewhat indifferent to because they're not very good and are way out of your region, but their players and fans are such pompous asses that you start to hope they lose. I want the people of Ukraine to win, but leaders like Zelensky need to rot in a cell for his extortion, money laundering, and using his people to die for his own wealth and legacy.
Posted by: Rbastid at September 21, 2023 03:57 PM (Y+s+o)
Does this also mean the Poland thinks that the Ukraine exercise is more or less finished at this point?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 01:52 PM (t0OGg)
Poland had an exercise last week or so putting troops in advanced parts *in Poland* to face the Belarus border. It didn't go well, with reports that the men were having to go to the equivalent of 7-11 shops for food and facilities because they could not support just moving troops around in their own country.
I'm all for Europe re-arming, there's been a direct link between the end of the militaries there and the lack of sense in the government and oddly, their huge ambitions. All this talk of expanding NATO and Europe when none of the member states have shit to shoot with.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2023 04:02 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 03:25 PM (GZYu7)
You mean like the Monroe Doctrine?
Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2023 04:04 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 21, 2023 02:55 PM (Mzdiz)
They do have rail connections to Europe, mostly through Poland. The rest was shipped out through the Black Sea neutral cooridor via an agreement that Ukraine used to operate attacks against Russian ships and bridges and the EU violated by banning Russian ships and products despite the agreement.
Much of the Ukraine wheat went to feed pigs in Spain and France.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2023 04:11 PM (eoQWY)
It turned out that the Ukes were willing to fight.
My memory is the US send them intel on the paratroopers and then US supplied anti-air killed a bunch of them before they could land.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2023 02:51 PM (XqcwY)
That's not how it went down - the coup de main did blog down, but Russia only pulled back because Zelensky agreed to negotiations and begged them to back off. So for politics and probably supply issues they did. After a few weeks US and UK pressure got him brave enough to scuttle the negotiations, but the paralyzation of the Ukr army led to the occupation of South Ukraine pretty easily until Ukr had raised more troops.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2023 04:16 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 02:44 PM (wy5wi)
They certainly are starting out well on the Demilitarization and Denazification parts with the horrendous casualties Ukraine is suffering for nothing. The land area they have now is about 60 percent of Ukraine's GDP and mineral wealth. My guess is they will want to take the Dneipr basin to avoid future games with blowing dams and flooding, and the Russian areas around Odessa to stop pogroms against ethnic Russians and to deny NATO a base, leaving the rest basically like Austria - a rump country with a bloated capital and no resources. Then even if rearmed it isn't a threat to Russia. The Nazi shock troops might be a useful tool in EU oppression of member states
Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2023 04:25 PM (eoQWY)
She really won't be missed.
Posted by: Oglebay at September 21, 2023 04:39 PM (ogTiX)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at September 21, 2023 04:40 PM (8fxF+)
Posted by: Sherpa_k2 at September 21, 2023 04:43 PM (QlM9F)
It's too bad that hating Ukraine has become the consensus position in "conservative" circles and you can't be a "true" """conservative""" without it.
Go Ukraine!
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Integrity SAT's: Entrance Exam for Paul Anka's Band
AllahPundit's Paul Anka 45's Collection
AnkaPundit: Paul Anka Takes Over the Site for a Weekend (Continues through to Monday's postings)
George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer
Democratic Forays into Erotica
New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network
Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes
Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse
Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party"
Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)