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Disney Is Entertaining a Bid for the Purchase of ABC; ABC "News" Staffers Are Freaking Out

This is the first time anyone wrote "Disney is Entertaining" in about six years.

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Learn to code, bitches.


Allen Media Group owner Byron Allen has made a $10 billion offer to Walt Disney to buy the ABC TV network, local stations, as well as the ancillary FX and National Geographic cable channels, a host of reports detailed Friday.

Byron Allen?

He's got that kind of scratch?

Jeeze.


The bid, confirmed by Allen's representative to CBS MoneyWatch, would include the entertainment giant's ABC's national TV network as well as several regional stations.

The offer is "preliminary" and "could change" at any time, a source with knowledge of the matter told Bloomberg.

CNN reports a half-dozen people inside and around ABC News contacted by the outlet on Thursday evening made clear a feeling of dread and trepidation is engulfing staffers as they face the prospect of being sold.

CNN reports a half-dozen people inside and around ABC News contacted by the outlet on Thursday evening made clear a feeling of dread and trepidation is engulfing staffers as they face the prospect of being sold.

"Everyone is freaking the f**k out," one ABC News staffer bluntly told CNN about the state of affairs inside the network.

"It's all anyone at work is talking about," added another.

The regional cable company Nexstar is also considering buying ABC.

As you probably know from me mentioning it every week, Disney is forced to buy out Comcast's stake in Hulu, which will cost them at least $10 billion, and probably as much as $30 billion. Disney has been losing money hand-over-fist -- losing $11 billion just on its streaming service so far -- and has seen its stock value cut in half from its 2020 highs.

So they will have trouble financing the buyout. They will either have to give Comcast an absolutely huge block of reduced-value shares, or sell a huge amount of corporate debt. It's probably best for them just to sell off parts of Disney to raise the money.

WDW Pro reports that Disney is reorganizing its ads sales to focus on sports (ESPN). Which suggests the sale of ABC is imminent.

Gary from Nerdrotic just claimed that the new Disney "Star Wars" show Ahsoka has ratings that are within thousandths of a point of the ratings for Secret Invasion -- which was Disney's second-worst performing show, after Ms. Marvel.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:30 PM




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1 Yeet

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 18, 2023 04:30 PM (cDie+)

2 Yeet yeet

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 18, 2023 04:30 PM (cDie+)

3 Yeet yeet yeet

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 18, 2023 04:30 PM (cDie+)

4 Sponge!

Posted by: Simple Stevo at September 18, 2023 04:32 PM (Dgo06)

5 >>He's got that kind of scratch?

Byron Allen has been a big willie for a while now.

Made his money the old fashioned way....

** Dons John Houseman voice **

He earned it.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 18, 2023 04:32 PM (XV/Pl)

6 Disney has been losing money hand-over-fist -- losing $11 billion just on its streaming service so far -- and has seen its stock value cut in half from its 2020 highs.

lol get fucked

Posted by: Bob Chapek at September 18, 2023 04:32 PM (DTX3h)

7 That is all so unfortunate.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at September 18, 2023 04:32 PM (+WlBe)

8 >>>Disney Is Entertaining a Bid for the Purchase of ABC; ABC "News" Staffers Are Freaking Out
—Disinformation Expert Ace

>>>This is the first time anyone wrote "Disney is Entertaining" in about six years.

Ha ha!

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 04:32 PM (LdYi7)

9 I'm sure their ratings in Colony Ridge will be yuge.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at September 18, 2023 04:32 PM (GD2xa)

10 What's the problem, the newz is already fiction.

Posted by: Marooned at September 18, 2023 04:33 PM (kt8QE)

11 Die, mouse, shrivel and die!

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 18, 2023 04:33 PM (cDie+)

12 Hiya

Posted by: Sassy at September 18, 2023 04:33 PM (xSICi)

13 Burn mouse, burn.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert, Formerly Virginian at September 18, 2023 04:33 PM (N1DT3)

14 The underpants gnomes school of bidness strikes again!

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at September 18, 2023 04:33 PM (+WlBe)

15 Gary from Nerdrotic just claimed that the new Disney "Star Wars" show Ahsoka has ratings that are within thousandths of a point of the ratings for Secret Invasion -- which was Disney's second-worst performing show, after Ms. Marvel.


Might improve if they get Rosario Dawson to show her tits. Couldn't hurt anyway.

Posted by: Ratings gold! at September 18, 2023 04:34 PM (dhxes)

16 BELCH

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 18, 2023 04:34 PM (/HDaX)

17 Call me when people start talking about Disney selling Star Wars.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 18, 2023 04:34 PM (fKIdX)

18 No idea who Byron Allen is. Should I?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 04:34 PM (+cfsD)

19 This is what happens when you make shit no one wants to watch. How long before shareholders sue these turds for burning their moolah for woke propaganda?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at September 18, 2023 04:35 PM (+WlBe)

20 This is an easy layup for Apple, they will gladly take the content, catalogue and the broadcast spectrum.

They may end up being a 4 Trillion dollar market cap company when all is said and done.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 18, 2023 04:36 PM (XV/Pl)

21 Wasn't Byron Allen some skinny black guy who hosted some sort of entertainment chat show back in the eighties?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at September 18, 2023 04:36 PM (+WlBe)

22
Die, Rat Droppings, die!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 18, 2023 04:36 PM (xG4kz)

23 Byron Allen, former NBA player? I recall him with the Lakers.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 18, 2023 04:36 PM (sAmhv)

24 Yes, hopefully Byron Allen will be an improvement. You don't build that kind of profit by being an elitist wokester.

Posted by: Chamber of Commerce USA at September 18, 2023 04:37 PM (G1dq6)

25 I'm once again struck by how complete the left's takeover of the country has been.

Yes, they are also destroying everything, but they don't care. It will be turned to their purposes or burned down.

Disney in the example here. Boy Scouts. Budweiser.

They never let up, they never stop, they are true believers.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert, Formerly Virginian at September 18, 2023 04:37 PM (N1DT3)

26 People are freaking out, man. Says story that doesn't explain why people are freaking out, man. Maybe as a journalist, part of the job ought to be to explain why people are freaking out, man.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at September 18, 2023 04:37 PM (ppBhU)

27 Byron Allen was about as milquetoast a TV host as you could ever find. On the old 80's "Real People" show, and host of the terrible comedian interview show "Comics Unleashed."

But he saved, and invested.

He owns The Weather Channel, among other properties.

Posted by: sharksauce at September 18, 2023 04:37 PM (l6DYb)

28 Byron Allen <<<<Lord Byron <<< Kari Byron.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 18, 2023 04:37 PM (fKIdX)

29 So, Disney has found a sucker to overpay for dying assets? $10B for that, really? Or is this a backdoor fed payoff filtered through 2-3 intermediaries to thank Disney for their political contributions...

Posted by: Nova Local at September 18, 2023 04:37 PM (exHjb)

30 Burn in hell, Disney.

Posted by: XTC at September 18, 2023 04:37 PM (UnA8+)

31 I could be wrong but it seems that ABC is one of the few media outlets that is actually making Disney money. So of course they should sell it off.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 18, 2023 04:38 PM (f1kZG)

32 Apparently Byron Allen was good with his money. Good for him.

Posted by: DOYLE at September 18, 2023 04:38 PM (Z8Yh2)

33 Yeah die Mouse die.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 18, 2023 04:38 PM (kvfoI)

34 No idea who Byron Allen is. Should I?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 04:34 PM (+cfsD)

Owns the Weather Channel.

(I didn't know until I read about this sale earlier, though.)

Posted by: Disinformation Expert, Formerly Virginian at September 18, 2023 04:38 PM (N1DT3)

35 Byron Allen, former NBA player? I recall him with the Lakers.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 18, 2023 04:36 PM (sAmhv)

I thought he was a golfer.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 04:38 PM (+cfsD)

36 Goes back to an earlier discussion about unions, labor and management, executives and the like. These masters of industry are, simply put, colossal fuckups, and get paid jaw-droppingly massive amounts of money to be colossal fuckups. The average community college student who sells Mickey Mouse ice cream pops at Magic Kingdom on weekends for a little extra pocket money could do better than these jagoffs.

Posted by: I'd LOVE to get paid millions no matter how bad I fuck up at September 18, 2023 04:38 PM (dhxes)

37 No idea who Byron Allen is. Should I?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 04:34 PM (+cfsD)

Owns the Weather Channel.

(I didn't know until I read about this sale earlier, though.)
Posted by: Disinformation Expert, Formerly Virginian at September 18, 2023 04:38 PM (N1DT3)

So basically, Globall Warmening, 24/7.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 04:39 PM (+cfsD)

38
People are freaking out, man, as evidenced by how often the phrase, "people are freaking out, man", is being repeated ... man!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 18, 2023 04:39 PM (xG4kz)

39 What's "ABC" and how is it worth Billion$

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 18, 2023 04:39 PM (ga8qR)

40 Byron Allen?

He's got that kind of scratch?


The Byron Allen we know from The Byron Allen Show, etc.:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0020334

doesn't look like the Byron Allen in the article.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 18, 2023 04:40 PM (/HDaX)

41 The meme at the top. LOL.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2023 04:40 PM (t0OGg)

42 21 Wasn't Byron Allen some skinny black guy who hosted some sort of entertainment chat show back in the eighties?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at September 18, 2023 04:36 PM (+WlBe)

Yes he was. In fact, he may have been the youngest comic featured on the Tonight Show - I think he was still in high school when he did his set.

He's made a lot of money since then. I believe he owns The Weather Channel. He was pretty close with Mike Milken, so that would make sense.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 18, 2023 04:40 PM (/iWhV)

43 Disney needs the scratch since via taxes they are paying 82% of their opponent's legal bill because they are groomers.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 18, 2023 04:40 PM (kvfoI)

44 No idea who Byron Allen is. Should I?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 04:34 PM (+cfsD)

---

He did a show back in the early 80s called Real People.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 18, 2023 04:41 PM (f1kZG)

45
Bring in a steady hand for the tiller -- I hear that "I Have A Shiner" scrunt from Bud Light is available.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 18, 2023 04:41 PM (xG4kz)

46 To my surprise, one hundred stations high
People getting fired y'all, getting thrown from the roof
Folks are screaming, out of control
It was so entertaining when the network started to explode

I heard somebody say
(Burn baby burn) Disney inferno
(Burn baby burn) burn that mother down
(Burn baby burn) Disney inferno
(Burn baby burn) burn that mother down

Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 18, 2023 04:42 PM (wtvvX)

47 Owns the Weather Channel.

(I didn't know until I read about this sale earlier, though.)
Posted by: Disinformation Expert, Formerly Virginian at September 18, 2023 04:38 PM (N1DT3)

So basically, Globall Warmening, 24/7.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 04:39 PM (+cfsD)

Don't miss TWC. Verizon threw them off our network some years back. We have AccuWeather now which is not as bad but is sliding gradually in that direction. And the weather babes are no comparison at all.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 18, 2023 04:42 PM (N3zMI)

48 That's Incredible > Real People

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 18, 2023 04:42 PM (xPl2J)

49 I heard it was a buyer named Donald J. Trump.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 18, 2023 04:42 PM (lTGtQ)

50 There will be a helluva lot of work to do before Disney can offload ABC. There is of connection between ABC and ESPN that would have to be unraveled before a deal could be done.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 18, 2023 04:43 PM (mCz8T)

51 No, that's the same Byron Allen from years past. He got into owning TV stations very early and his net worth probably begins with a B.

The few people who know this are usually stand up comedians over 50.

Posted by: Oschisms at September 18, 2023 04:43 PM (qQ8Ei)

52 Byron Allen? THE Byron Allen of Real Incredible People?

That's all I got.

And whatever happened to that other guy?

Posted by: Minuteman at September 18, 2023 04:43 PM (LaNzR)

53 Will the rats escape the sinking ship?

Posted by: Skip at September 18, 2023 04:43 PM (fwDg9)

54
The most American thing about ABC news was it's Canadian Anchor, Peter Jennings.

It's been tits up, since he went tits up.

Posted by: Frank Barone at September 18, 2023 04:43 PM (+oR7L)

55 *gazes upon barren field of fucks*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 18, 2023 04:43 PM (2xN+m)

56 Disney shares are actually trading at 2015 levels - all that growth the the Trump years - poof.

Now, if Byron Allen owns the Weather Channel, it won't be much better - it's all climate change all the time there.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 18, 2023 04:43 PM (GZYu7)

57 CNN reports a half-dozen people inside and around ABC News contacted by the outlet on Thursday evening made clear a feeling of dread and trepidation is engulfing staffers as they face the prospect of being sold.
++++
I can understand it, both in the general and in the specific.

Acquisition is a scary time for employees. They know that nobody buys an enterprise with the intention to change nothing. There would be no point. A company or a person buys an enterprise to make changes. Those changes might be good for you - say, if you work for a midsized or small-large company poised for meteoric growth and the new owner is going to inject capital to make it happen. Those changes might be bad for you - say, if you work for an established, stable company from which the acquirer plans to spin out divisions, trim the fat, etc. But no matter what, there will be changes and at a company like ABC, those changes are going to be of the "spin things out, close things down, trim the fat" variety. The pinkslips *will* rain down. That's always true.

Specifically, though, ABC is a news outlet. Their business is not business, but propaganda. What if the new guy wants to make some money? Uh-oh.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2023 04:44 PM (t0OGg)

58 10 billion seems very very cheap for everything they want.

Posted by: Drive By at September 18, 2023 04:44 PM (CpzM7)

59 "No idea who Byron Allen is. Should I?
Posted by: BurtTC"


I think it is a men's clothing store.

Posted by: Ripley at September 18, 2023 04:44 PM (JojsZ)

60 I saw Dread and Trepidation open for Loggins and Messina at Cornell in '75.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at September 18, 2023 04:44 PM (ScR16)

61 The meme at the top. LOL.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Wonder what Netflix is going to do to Band of Brothers.
Probably use AI to alter the film to make them all trannies.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 18, 2023 04:45 PM (ga8qR)

62 We got a few stand up comedians over 50 in here!

Posted by: Oschisms at September 18, 2023 04:45 PM (qQ8Ei)

63 Ding-dong the mouse is dead.

Posted by: Joe Mama at September 18, 2023 04:45 PM (lZVy/)

64 Mel Allen > Byron Allen.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 18, 2023 04:45 PM (2xN+m)

65 Byron Allen?

He's got that kind of scratch?

Jeeze.


Probably not, but he may be able to borrow enough against ABC and whatever other assets he has to finance the deal.

Whether he can make the mortgage payments with the cash flow from ABC is a different question, especially at today's interest rates. Things could get nasty when he has to roll it over in a few years at whatever interest rates are then.

Posted by: a.moron at September 18, 2023 04:45 PM (F6Xpw)

66
"No idea who Byron Allen is. Should I?
Posted by: BurtTC"


He's second cousin to Tyrone Shoelaces.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 18, 2023 04:46 PM (xG4kz)

67 So they will have trouble financing the buyout. They will either have to give Comcast an absolutely huge block of reduced-value shares, or sell a huge amount of corporate debt. It's probably best for them just to sell off parts of Disney to raise the money.
++++
Definitely. They *might* not have to dilute share value to make stock a part of the deal. That depends on how much DIS stock is sitting in the company's treasury - owned and existing, but not trading. If they have to issue new shares then that's brutal. Allowing a lot *more* of the company to float will still likely result in a price decline, but it might not be a huge one unless they have to issue new shares to cover it.

And nobody knows how much of a discount Comcast will want. I would want a pretty decent discount. If the stock is trading at $80, I might want it priced at $78 for the exchange. That stock is probably going to keep declining, and I would want to take that into account.

It's much, much better for Disney to raise the cash otherwise. Interest rates are going up, so debt finance is less appealing and a stock-based deal has its own consequences. Much, much better to sell off assets to raise the money.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2023 04:47 PM (t0OGg)

68 Disney has been putting out a lot of flops the last couple of years. The writers and actors striking might actually end up saving them money.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 18, 2023 04:47 PM (mCz8T)

69 > Gary from Nerdrotic just claimed that the new Disney "Star Wars" show Ahsoka has ratings that are within thousandths of a point of the ratings for Secret Invasion -- which was Disney's second-worst performing show, after Ms. Marvel.

This pleases me.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 18, 2023 04:47 PM (0N1h0)

70 Mel Allen > Byron Allen.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

Allen Wrench beats them all.

Posted by: Joe Mama at September 18, 2023 04:47 PM (lZVy/)

71 In the new version of 'Band of Brothers,' the German MG42 will fire 800 mean Tweets a minute.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 18, 2023 04:47 PM (kvfoI)

72 Allan Sherman > Byron Allen

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at September 18, 2023 04:48 PM (ScR16)

73 I think it is a men's clothing store.
Posted by: Ripley at September 18, 2023 04:44 PM (JojsZ)

British, no doubt. With little gay men tugging at men's crotches, making sure the creases are to David Brooks' liking.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 04:49 PM (+cfsD)

74 54
The most American thing about ABC news was it's Canadian Anchor, Peter Jennings.

It's been tits up, since he went tits up.
Posted by: Frank Barone
---------
Jennings was the model for the anchor that Bill Hurt played in Broadcast News movie.

Posted by: whig at September 18, 2023 04:49 PM (5jVrT)

75 Skip Stephenson is the Andrew Ridgely of Real People.

Change my mind.

Posted by: Minuteman at September 18, 2023 04:49 PM (LaNzR)

76 I also read today that Disney is in talks to sell it's Disney+ India holdings.

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 18, 2023 04:50 PM (xPl2J)

77 That meme is hilarious. And oh so true.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at September 18, 2023 04:50 PM (iF0sF)

78 "Band of Brothers" is sexist. It will be renamed "Band of Siblings."

All members in the remake will be body-positive, nonbinary, brave, LGBTBBQ+. There will be graphic gay sex.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 18, 2023 04:50 PM (fKIdX)

79 Byron Allen? THE Byron Allen of Real Incredible People?

That's all I got.

And whatever happened to that other guy?
Posted by: Minuteman at September 18, 2023 04:43 PM (LaNzR)

Not the basketball player?

Posted by: LASue at September 18, 2023 04:50 PM (bdBgp)

80
Disney should bundle up and sell off its numerous stables of trannies and groomers. Market them as "crack investigatory squads" working on the child trafficking problem.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 18, 2023 04:50 PM (xG4kz)

81 67 It's much, much better for Disney to raise the cash otherwise. Interest rates are going up, so debt finance is less appealing and a stock-based deal has its own consequences. Much, much better to sell off assets to raise the money.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2023 04:47 PM (t0OGg)

=========

"We cannot allow Disney to suffer. We must bailout Disney."
-Paul Ryan, probably

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 18, 2023 04:50 PM (LvTSG)

82 Wonder what Netflix is going to do to Band of Brothers.
Probably use AI to alter the film to make them all trannies.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 18, 2023 04:45 PM (ga8qR)

It's on there now. Do you mean to say they're remaking it?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 04:50 PM (+cfsD)

83 In Ashoka, Thrawn is the MacGuffin that can be found via a hidden map...

How Rey found Luke redux.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 18, 2023 04:50 PM (kvfoI)

84 > No idea who Byron Allen is. Should I?

Dude has a crazy success story. Poor kid of a divorced mom got noticed at open mic standup at the age of 14. He started up a bargain basement showbiz entertainment company. He made some very smart moves and next thing you know his company is worth billions.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 18, 2023 04:51 PM (0N1h0)

85 Gary from Nerdrotic just claimed that the new Disney "Star Wars" show Ahsoka has ratings that are within thousandths of a point of the ratings for Secret Invasion


===

OK, Boomer.

Posted by: runner at September 18, 2023 04:51 PM (t459v)

86 Skip Stephenson is the Andrew Ridgely of Real People.

Change my mind.

Posted by: Minuteman at September 18, 2023 04:49 PM (LaNzR)

So Fred Willard is the George Michael?

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 18, 2023 04:51 PM (xPl2J)

87 Nothing I like more than Ace crapping on Disney.

Posted by: Freddy from Lake Frederick at September 18, 2023 04:51 PM (WlIXW)

88 76 I also read today that Disney is in talks to sell it's Disney+ India holdings.
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 18, 2023 04:50 PM (xPl2J)

========

Everything I've heard about Disney+ in India is that it's borderline worthless (customers pay less than $1 per month), and it's mostly covered by having cricket on it.

It's mainly used to pad the subscriber numbers globally.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 18, 2023 04:51 PM (LvTSG)

89 "We cannot allow Disney to suffer. We must bailout Disney."
-Paul Ryan, probably
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 18, 2023 04:50 PM (LvTSG)


Think Disney can sue Ron DeSantis and the Florida government for enough to cover the costs? It's all his fault anyway, right?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 18, 2023 04:51 PM (fKIdX)

90 Mel Allen > Byron Allen.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 18, 2023 04:45 PM (2xN+m)

Steve Allen > Mel Allen > Byron Allen

Posted by: Disinformation Expert, Formerly Virginian at September 18, 2023 04:51 PM (N1DT3)

91 Mel Allen > Byron Allen.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 18, 2023 04:45 PM (2xN+m)

Greatest baseball play by play guy of all time.

Bar none. Don't argue with me. I'm right.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 04:52 PM (+cfsD)

92 Wasn't that long ago the new boss at CNN was going to straighten out that pile of shit. Now he's gone.

Why ABC staff would be all wee wee'd up is weird.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 18, 2023 04:52 PM (Q4IgG)

93 No, that's the same Byron Allen from years past. He got into owning TV stations very early and his net worth probably begins with a B.

His company he founded is worth $4.5 billion. He's got the firepower to back up the offer.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at September 18, 2023 04:52 PM (OUMaO)

94 89
Think Disney can sue Ron DeSantis and the Florida government for enough to cover the costs? It's all his fault anyway, right?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 18, 2023 04:51 PM (fKIdX)

=========

"DeSantis stole our rightful rights to be lord and masters of a town in Florida which made us fly our freak flag and lose customers. Also, we request the court to make him say gay."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 18, 2023 04:53 PM (LvTSG)

95 Disney+ just lost the cricket streaming rights in India. So it is just shit now.

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 18, 2023 04:53 PM (xPl2J)

96 Lessee, where did I put that ol' resume?

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos at September 18, 2023 04:53 PM (4I/2K)

97 Dismey is footing 82% of the state's legal bill via taxes. I hope Disney keeps suing.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 18, 2023 04:54 PM (kvfoI)

98 Wonder what Netflix is going to do to Band of Brothers.
Probably use AI to alter the film to make them all trannies.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 18, 2023 04:45 PM (ga8qR)

It's on there now. Do you mean to say they're remaking it?
Posted by: BurtTC

On now.
But I expect Netflix to do a little editing or tweaking with today's talking points.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 18, 2023 04:54 PM (ga8qR)

99 92 Wasn't that long ago the new boss at CNN was going to straighten out that pile of shit. Now he's gone.

Why ABC staff would be all wee wee'd up is weird.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 18, 2023 04:52 PM (Q4IgG)

========

That was supposition based on the idea that Zaslav wanted CNN to be profitable, the CNN guy said some milquetoast things about regaining a centrist reputation, and the left from CNN freaking the fuck out.

I never gathered it was more than light pablum and a need to kick out some of the worst and most expensive offenders from CNN's lineup without actually having much of a desire to change things.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 18, 2023 04:54 PM (LvTSG)

100 >>Byron Allen?
>>He's got that kind of scratch?

This Lord Byron guy might just be the point man for a highly leveraged buyout. It may be that the agents of he Left are backing him to keep the property under Lefty control.

Or maybe even to move it further Left.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 04:55 PM (d5suT)

101 Now, if Byron Allen owns the Weather Channel, it won't be much better - it's all climate change all the time there.
Posted by: Black JEM
___________

Quit watching the Weather Channel when they started that weekend dedicated preachy-hour show with whoever that chick was.

They did have that little gollum-looking guy who came on for tornados. He was fun.

And Jen Carfagno was kind of hot.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 18, 2023 04:55 PM (Dm8we)

102 95 Disney+ just lost the cricket streaming rights in India. So it is just shit now.
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 18, 2023 04:53 PM (xPl2J)

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Even better. India has its own cultural touchstones without bringing in Snow White or The Little Mermaid. They've had a healthy film industry (actually, something like a dozen of them) for decades.

I don't see why the whole world needs to drink Coca-Cola and watch the movies American kids loved decades ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 18, 2023 04:56 PM (LvTSG)

103
Ow, Congress, yank their never-ending extension of copyright on the Rat from them.

Make it hurt and kick them while they are down.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 18, 2023 04:56 PM (xG4kz)

104 "Band of Brothers" is sexist. It will be renamed "Band of Siblings."

All members in the remake will be body-positive, nonbinary, brave, LGBTBBQ+. There will be graphic gay sex.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 18, 2023 04:50 PM (fKIdX)

I've been rewatching it. Might be the best teevee show of all time.

There's two things I noticed, through 2023 eyes. One black guy. He's driving a deuce and a half.

The other thing, an exchange of looks between a lieutenant that later get's shot, and a soldier who barely has any dialogue. I wonder.....

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 04:56 PM (+cfsD)

105
Now

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 18, 2023 04:56 PM (xG4kz)

106 Ella Fitzgerald > Elephant > Allan Funt > Alan King > Lord Byron> Byron Allen > Woody Allen > Woody Hayes > Purple Haze

Posted by: Minuteman at September 18, 2023 04:56 PM (LaNzR)

107 Nothing I like more than Ace crapping on Disney.
Posted by: Freddy from Lake Frederick

Quick. Somebody do a graphic of an Ewok dropping a deuce on the Rat.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 18, 2023 04:56 PM (ga8qR)

108 103
Ow, Congress, yank their never-ending extension of copyright on the Rat from them.

Make it hurt and kick them while they are down.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 18, 2023 04:56 PM (xG4kz)

========

3 months and 13 days.

Still, I suspect there will be an extension thrown into the must-pass omnibus CR in a month. Life+90. Another 20 years with nothing entering the public domain.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 18, 2023 04:57 PM (LvTSG)

109 In Ashoka, Thrawn is the MacGuffin that can be found via a hidden map...

How Rey found Luke redux.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 18, 2023 04:50 PM (kvfoI)
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It's about the only storytelling the current crop of Disney writers seem to know.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 18, 2023 04:57 PM (YIVH2)

110 Jeebus, when I was in the tech biz we'd set up the big conference room for the cricket Test matches, someone would cater in food, and the Indian staff would be there all night.

Posted by: JEM at September 18, 2023 04:57 PM (8erNz)

111 106 Ella Fitzgerald > Elephant > Allan Funt > Alan King > Lord Byron> Byron Allen > Woody Allen > Woody Hayes > Purple Haze
Posted by: Minuteman at September 18, 2023 04:56 PM (LaNzR)

========

Allison Pill as Zelda Fitzgerald > Ella Fitsgerald

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 18, 2023 04:57 PM (LvTSG)

112 From 2012 (post-Lucasfilm) through 2018, Disney bought back about $36 billion of its own shares. That is worth much less now - probably between a quarter and a third less all told - but still represents a huge amount. I wonder how much of that stock is still sitting in the Disney treasury. Probably some, but they will have disgorged a whole lot of it as compensation and to buy 20th Century Fox.

I wonder if using "treasury stock" is even an option for Hulu, or if a stock deal would dictate a new issue and dilution. Even if it is, those buybacks were a piss-poor investment. There was a time when shareholders might care about that kind of thing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2023 04:58 PM (t0OGg)

113 "...I expect Netflix to do a little editing or tweaking with today's talking points."

I know it's possible technically, but is it legal? I mean for an entity other than the producer to do it>

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 18, 2023 04:59 PM (MeG8a)

114 Even better. India has its own cultural touchstones without bringing in Snow White or The Little Mermaid. They've had a healthy film industry (actually, something like a dozen of them) for decades.

I don't see why the whole world needs to drink Coca-Cola and watch the movies American kids loved decades ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 18, 2023 04:56 PM (LvTSG)
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Disney used to be *the* cultural touchstone of America, synonymous with baseball, mom, and apple pie.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 18, 2023 04:59 PM (YIVH2)

115 Replace Han Solo on rotisserie spit with Mickey Mouse

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 18, 2023 04:59 PM (kvfoI)

116 Byron Allen had a show where he interviewed celebrities at press junkets and pretended like it was a talk show. Like there weren't dozens of people getting to do the exact same interviews he was. And he'd be like "now the last time we talked, you told me you were working out more" like they're buds. And the celeb doesn't want be rude and say I don't remember because you're one of a hundred interviews I did that day so they're like "um, yeah I am working out more."

Then he got a show called Comics Unleashed where he did roundtable interviews with comics. Oh, you couldn't be more leashed. He'd try to segue to each comic by setting them up to do their material. Comic has a bit about aging: "Now Jon, I understand you're getting older."

Anyway, he sold his soul to the devil and got a billon dollars.

Posted by: Oscar Meyer at September 18, 2023 04:59 PM (sHtXk)

117 Ow, Congress, yank their never-ending extension of copyright on the Rat from them.

Make it hurt and kick them while they are down.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)


The finally lost the rights on the early "Steamboat Willie" version earlier this year. Not sure what the legal fuckery protecting the later to current versions is.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at September 18, 2023 04:59 PM (OUMaO)

118 Everything I've heard about Disney+ in India is that it's borderline worthless (customers pay less than $1 per month), and it's mostly covered by having cricket on it.

It's mainly used to pad the subscriber numbers globally.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 18, 2023 04:51 PM (LvTSG)
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D+ in India is dead weight. Disney isolates it in its reporting. Selling D+ rights in India wouldn't surprise me. Hell, they might be willing to give it away. It has no real value.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2023 04:59 PM (t0OGg)

119 Disney just needs to get more woke, that's all. Everything will come right then.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 18, 2023 04:59 PM (YqDXo)

120 Definitely. They *might* not have to dilute share value to make stock a part of the deal. That depends on how much DIS stock is sitting in the company's treasury - owned and existing, but not trading. If they have to issue new shares then that's brutal. ...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Also brutal to give up shares (assets) at half the value they had at peak.

How does my ass taste, Disney?

Posted by: Inflation at September 18, 2023 05:00 PM (d5suT)

121 117 The finally lost the rights on the early "Steamboat Willie" version earlier this year. Not sure what the legal fuckery protecting the later to current versions is.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at September 18, 2023 04:59 PM (OUMaO)

=======

It's not this year. It's January 1 of next year.

There's still time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 18, 2023 05:00 PM (LvTSG)

122 81 Fox Corp trying to save Disney is actually on my Bingo card. Thought it was a lost cause when I got the card, but now it's money.


Now if the pron industry just buys out CNN, I'll have a BINGO.

Posted by: Bete at September 18, 2023 05:00 PM (KuG1T)

123 It's about the only storytelling the current crop of Disney writers seem to know.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 18, 2023 04:57 PM (YIVH2)

I've gotten so used to it, nowadays I'm always wondering how characters get from point A to point B, and if they don't at least hint at covering great distances somehow, it takes me out of the story.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:00 PM (+cfsD)

124 US national debt is now $33,000,000,000,000.00

Only five years ago it was $21,500,000,000,000.00

https://is.gd/CJvMn6

Posted by: bonhomme at September 18, 2023 05:01 PM (0N1h0)

125 Rey and her adventures came 10 years after Filoni sent Thrawn far far away into unknown regions. Jj Abrams has no imagination.

Posted by: runner at September 18, 2023 05:02 PM (t459v)

126 Disney Is Entertaining a Bid for the Purchase of ABC; ABC "News" Staffers Are Freaking Out
_________________

Adios, pendejos!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 18, 2023 05:03 PM (YqDXo)

127 The yearly salaries of the core ABCs news readers is about 1% of the offered 10 billion.

Posted by: Drive By at September 18, 2023 05:03 PM (CpzM7)

128 Despite all the hand wringing over colonialism, the biggest sport in India is a British import.

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 18, 2023 05:03 PM (xPl2J)

129 Disney just needs to get more woke, that's all. Everything will come right then.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 18, 2023 04:59 PM (YqDXo)

What it really needs is a story with an Of Color girl in a traditionally white role, where they change the story from a princess needing a prince, to one where the girl discovers the leader she was always meant to be.

I don't think we've ever seen anything like that before.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:04 PM (+cfsD)

130 I've gotten so used to it, nowadays I'm always wondering how characters get from point A to point B, and if they don't at least hint at covering great distances somehow, it takes me out of the story.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:00 PM (+cfsD)
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Yeah, they tend to gloss over the fact that the Star Wars galaxy is huge (bigger than ours) and that it takes time to travel from place to place. Of course, that tends to be somewhat boring to show, unless you have some snappy dialogue or interesting side adventures along the way. That's far beyond today's Star Wars writer.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 18, 2023 05:04 PM (YIVH2)

131 With Thrawn comes Mara Jade but that won't happen because of 'reasons.'

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 18, 2023 05:04 PM (kvfoI)

132 124 US national debt is now $33,000,000,000,000.00
Only five years ago it was $21,500,000,000,000.00
https://is.gd/CJvMn6
Posted by: bonhomme

Again, my plan -
Ever year hold a lottery of all national level politicians (cabinet members and SJC included) Pick a name for every trillion of debt.

Build that many gibbets on the mall. Sell tickets.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 05:04 PM (d5suT)

133 128 Despite all the hand wringing over colonialism, the biggest sport in India is a British import.
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 18, 2023 05:03 PM (xPl2J)

=========

That takes days to play.

Cricket is proof of the British resolve to conquer the world.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 18, 2023 05:04 PM (LvTSG)

134 Allison Pill as Zelda Fitzgerald > Ella Fitsgerald


Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 18, 2023 04:57 PM (LvTSG)

And Jerry Mathers

As

The Beaver >

Marshall Mathers

As

The Real Slim Shady

Posted by: Minuteman at September 18, 2023 05:04 PM (LaNzR)

135 >>> There's two things I noticed, through 2023 eyes. One black guy. He's driving a deuce and a half.

A lot of black servicemen would have been in transportation and logisitics. Combat was for he-man white guys of honor...
Helped a guy at work who was looking for background on a grandfather based on acronymn on headstone. Was 'construction services'. You dig the trenches! A lot of all black units. Never see anyone digging the trench networks in the movies (probably miners too). That would be a crappy job.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 18, 2023 05:05 PM (ga8qR)

136 Also brutal to give up shares (assets) at half the value they had at peak.

How does my ass taste, Disney?
Posted by: Inflation at September 18, 2023 05:00 PM (d5suT)
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On paper, yeah. It comes down to how much those shares cost Disney when they were purchased. Disney suspended buybacks after the 20th Century Fox deal, so the maximum share price on buybacks was from mid-2018, when the stock was sitting around $105 per share. Back in late (when the post-Lucasfilm buybacks started, which I use as my start date for this), the price was closer to $50 per share.

No matter how you slice it, the buybacks were a bad investment (especially because a lot of those shares are gone - spent on compensation and Fox) but depending on when they were purchased vs. when they are traded for Hulu (if stock is involved in the deal), it might not be a paper loss. Just a gigantic opportunity cost.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2023 05:05 PM (t0OGg)

137 I'm quite surprised anyone wants to buy ABC at any price. I thought legacy TV was dying.

Posted by: spindrift at September 18, 2023 05:05 PM (EGPRf)

138 Ugh. @136, I meant to write "late 2012" but accidentally left the year off.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2023 05:06 PM (t0OGg)

139 26 People are freaking out, man. Says story that doesn't explain why people are freaking out, man. Maybe as a journalist, part of the job ought to be to explain why people are freaking out, man.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at September 18, 2023 04:37 PM (ppBhU)

Dave's not here, man.

Posted by: tcn in AK, hail to the thief at September 18, 2023 05:06 PM (okGHj)

140 The finally lost the rights on the early "Steamboat Willie" version earlier this year. Not sure what the legal fuckery protecting the later to current versions is.

The trick is to make it a trademark. Patent has a short life, copyright has a long life, but trademark is forever (as long as you keep it in use). That was why they started cramming Steamboat Willie into everything - not out of nostalgia, but out of a trademark lawyer scheme.

Posted by: wooga at September 18, 2023 05:07 PM (MIIie)

141 Mara Jade would be a bit much.

Posted by: runner at September 18, 2023 05:07 PM (t459v)

142 That takes days to play.

Cricket is proof of the British resolve to conquer the world.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 18, 2023 05:04 PM (LvTSG)


You get them to playing cricket, and blam! we invade! - Shit Queen Victoria said, maybe.


Posted by: Archer at September 18, 2023 05:07 PM (gmo/4)

143 Allison Pill as Zelda Fitzgerald > Ella Fitsgerald
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 18, 2023 04:57 PM (LvTSG)

Alison Pill is one homely woman.

When I see her, my aim isn't true.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:08 PM (+cfsD)

144 Still, I suspect there will be an extension thrown into the must-pass omnibus CR in a month. Life+90. Another 20 years with nothing entering the public domain.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Won't happen most probably because it would breach the Berne Convention and various other agreements based on it. Scotus basically warned Congress that copyright cannot be defined as perpetual in the Mickey Mouse case.

Posted by: whig at September 18, 2023 05:08 PM (5jVrT)

145 137 I'm quite surprised anyone wants to buy ABC at any price. I thought legacy TV was dying.
Posted by: spindrift at September 18, 2023 05:05 PM (EGPRf)

The broadcast licenses and rights are probably worth more than the content. There is probably also lucrative IP and real estate holdings involved.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 18, 2023 05:08 PM (wPEdt)

146 That takes days to play.

Cricket is proof of the British resolve to conquer the world.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 18, 2023 05:04 PM (LvTSG)


You get them to playing cricket, and blam! we invade! - Shit Queen Victoria said, maybe.


Posted by: Archer at September 18, 2023 05:07 PM (gmo/4)

It works better than opium.

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 18, 2023 05:09 PM (xPl2J)

147 Between streaming, dvds, and books, I don't have any use for commercial tv -- except during tornado and strong thunderstorm season. I might take a look if the boys and girls over in Valley (the National Weatherstation) start nattering about ten feet of snow. Otherwise, I wont take a glimpse of commercial tv til next spring.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- Persian cats are nothing more than 24/7 shedding machines. at September 18, 2023 05:09 PM (6TzTY)

148 135 >>> There's two things I noticed, through 2023 eyes. One black guy. He's driving a deuce and a half.

A lot of black servicemen would have been in transportation and logisitics.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher


This is an untold tragedy. I grew up listening to vets talk about other nationalities they served with and nothing assimilated the early 20t century immigrant wave like serving together during the war.
Except for blacks. They were segregated thanks to that bastard FDR. I see that as one of the greatest tragedies of post civil war US history.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 05:09 PM (d5suT)

149 117 The legal fuckery is that only the original copyright version is public domain. So Batman may become it minus an extention, but only the DaVinci cape, purple glove gun wielding (!) Version. But Gotham, Batmobile and Joker each have copywrites of their own, as well as the yellow wmblam behind the bat symbol look.

So even with part being public domain, Disney lawyers are going to be looking for any scrap of character that is still under copyright.

Basically, copyright is what you'd expect from a law designed by big corporation lawyers and then tinkered with by questionable lawyers and straight up idiots in Congress.

Posted by: Bete at September 18, 2023 05:10 PM (KuG1T)

150 A lot of black servicemen would have been in transportation and logisitics. Combat was for he-man white guys of honor...
Helped a guy at work who was looking for background on a grandfather based on acronymn on headstone. Was 'construction services'. You dig the trenches! A lot of all black units. Never see anyone digging the trench networks in the movies (probably miners too). That would be a crappy job.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 18, 2023 05:05 PM (ga8qR)

Yeah, it was very noticeable on rewatch, even though it was maybe one second of screen time. A very subtle but no doubt intentional decision by the show's creators.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:10 PM (+cfsD)

151 Except for blacks. They were segregated thanks to that bastard FDR.


Maybe Wilson?

Posted by: Archer at September 18, 2023 05:10 PM (gmo/4)

152 Yeet
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 18, 2023 04:30 PM (cDie+)
........

whatever happened to "meep"?

Posted by: wth at September 18, 2023 05:11 PM (v0R5T)

153 Umm, go back a bit, it was Woodrow Wilson that formally segregated federal agencies and the military. FDR just kept it going as to do cynically while Eleanor was used the placate the libs.

Posted by: whig at September 18, 2023 05:11 PM (5jVrT)

154 ... Except for blacks. They were segregated thanks to that bastard FDR. I see that as one of the greatest tragedies of post civil war US history.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 05:09 PM (d5suT)
++++
Back during the Summer of Love, my company did the mandatory "let's talk about racism" all-hands meeting. One of the dumb bints used some Eleanor Roosevelt quote as a part of her harangue.

In the feedback form afterward, I mentioned that it was particularly ironic - as well as deeply historically ignorant - use use a quote by FDR's wife on this topic, as her husband immediately re-segregated the armed forces that had been integrating under Coolidge and Hoover.

Oddly, there were not appreciative of my feedback.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2023 05:11 PM (t0OGg)

155 Theory: Missing F-35 has been seized by aliens. Air Force has radar images and fuzzy video.

Posted by: Ripley at September 18, 2023 05:12 PM (JojsZ)

156 Byron Allen? THAT Byron Allen who was Arsinio Hall's back stage consigliere ? Now I know where Oblowme and Big Mike launder the billions they have stolen... pallets of cash?? I think NOT !!!!!! GUMBY HAS SPOKEN !

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at September 18, 2023 05:12 PM (C4xAj)

157 Umm, go back a bit, it was Woodrow Wilson that formally segregated federal agencies and the military. FDR just kept it going as to do cynically while Eleanor was used the placate the libs.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2023 05:11 PM (5jVrT)
++++
Wilson strictly segregated the armed forces. Coolidge and Hoover rolled quite a bit of that back. It wasn't a fully integrated force by any means, but it wasn't anything like Wilson's military.

Not until FDR, anyway.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2023 05:13 PM (t0OGg)

158 Byron Allen tried to buy the Denver Broncos and Washington Redskins/Commodes. He also tried for Tegna, which owns a boatload of local TV stations. Methinks he's a stalking horse for more shadowy types.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at September 18, 2023 05:13 PM (lqvOK)

159
Theory: Missing F-35 has been seized by aliens. Air Force has radar images and fuzzy video.
Posted by: Ripley


Coast to Coast AM will no doubt figure it out.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 18, 2023 05:13 PM (63Dwl)

160 Some of my best friends are commies.

Posted by: FDR at September 18, 2023 05:13 PM (4I/2K)

161 133 128 Despite all the hand wringing over colonialism, the biggest sport in India is a British import.
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 18, 2023 05:03 PM (xPl2J)

=========

That takes days to play.

Cricket is proof of the British resolve to conquer the world.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 18, 2023 05:04 PM (LvTSG)
—————

One of the most popular beers in India is called British Empire. The Indians have a complicated relationship with the history of colonialism in India. Many many Indians see the Brits not as colonizers, but as liberators and builders. The country was a backwards, primitive shithole before the Brits took over. They left a modern, mostly functioning infrastructure.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 18, 2023 05:14 PM (wPEdt)

162 Said before, the Bolsheviks wanted to destroy the Russian monetary system as a way to bring around their revolution and plans for a cashless society.
Not sure our Marxists are any different

Posted by: Skip at September 18, 2023 05:14 PM (fwDg9)

163 Some of my best friends are commies.
Posted by: FDR at September 18, 2023 05:13 PM (4I/2K)
++++
Your Secretary of State certainly was.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2023 05:14 PM (t0OGg)

164 Umm, go back a bit, it was Woodrow Wilson that formally segregated federal agencies and the military. FDR just kept it going as to do cynically while Eleanor was used the placate the libs.
Posted by: whig
_______________

Were there integrated units in the Spanish-American War?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 18, 2023 05:14 PM (Dm8we)

165 Umm, go back a bit, it was Woodrow Wilson that formally segregated federal agencies and the military. FDR just kept it going as to do cynically while Eleanor was used the placate the libs.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2023 05:11 PM (5jVrT)

Sounds about right. I saw some live action footage of Wilson recently. That man was evil personified.

Sometimes when we talk about Worst President Evar!, I think we don't give Wilson enough credit where it's due.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:14 PM (+cfsD)

166 11 Die, mouse, shrivel and die!
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 18, 2023 04:33 PM (cDie+)

Yikes! Your hash!

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 05:14 PM (LdYi7)

167 Theory: Missing F-35 has been seized by aliens. Air Force has radar images and fuzzy video.

Posted by: Ripley at September 18, 2023 05:12 PM (JojsZ)


You humans are reverse engineering our gravity wave technology and you waste time on an F-35? Funny humans. Good thing you're cute and tasty!

Posted by: Aliens at September 18, 2023 05:14 PM (gmo/4)

168 Theory: Missing F-35 has been seized by aliens. Air Force has radar images and fuzzy video.

Posted by: Ripley at September 18, 2023 05:12 PM (JojsZ)

Nope. Black hole.

Posted by: Don Lemon at September 18, 2023 05:14 PM (xPl2J)

169 I didn't know ABC was still alive.

Hmmm.

Oh well.

RIP and sympathy to the family.

Posted by: Just Lily at September 18, 2023 05:15 PM (L07dw)

170 Cricket is proof of the British resolve to conquer the world.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Husto
.......

by boring it into submission.

Posted by: wth at September 18, 2023 05:15 PM (v0R5T)

171 Back during the Summer of Love, my company did the mandatory "let's talk about racism" all-hands meeting. One of the dumb bints used some Eleanor Roosevelt quote as a part of her harangue.

In the feedback form afterward, I mentioned that it was particularly ironic - as well as deeply historically ignorant - use use a quote by FDR's wife on this topic, as her husband immediately re-segregated the armed forces that had been integrating under Coolidge and Hoover.

Oddly, there were not appreciative of my feedback.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2023 05:11 PM (t0OGg)

Those that study history are doomed to repeat it through the actions of the know-nothings.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 18, 2023 05:15 PM (4I/2K)

172 Well,if Luke had been milking Mara Jade instead of that space cow thing I would have understood him not leaving his barren planet in Last Jedi at least.

Posted by: Bete at September 18, 2023 05:15 PM (KuG1T)

173 ABC just came along for the ride when Disney bought ESPN. It's as classic a tale as the ones they're ruining today. Over expansion, paying down debt by reducing build quality and milking cash cows dry.

What. A. Shame.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 18, 2023 05:16 PM (nnp+f)

174 "Theory: Missing F-35 has been seized by aliens. Air Force has radar images and fuzzy video.

Posted by: Ripley at September 18, 2023 05:12 PM (JojsZ)

Nope. Black hole.
Posted by: Don Lemon"


It crashed into Uranus.

Posted by: fd at September 18, 2023 05:17 PM (vFG9F)

175 Wilson strictly segregated the armed forces. Coolidge and Hoover rolled quite a bit of that back. It wasn't a fully integrated force by any means, but it wasn't anything like Wilson's military.

Not until FDR, anyway.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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The US military did have informal segregation going back to the Civil War era but federal civilian agencies were more or less integrated. Black Jack Pershing got his nickname because he spent time commanding the 10th Calvary (the so called Buffalo Soldiers) and that was pre Woodie in 1892.

Woodie instituted formal segregation of the federal government.

Posted by: whig at September 18, 2023 05:17 PM (5jVrT)

176 Were there integrated units in the Spanish-American War?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 18, 2023 05:14 PM (Dm8we)

Wouldn't surprise me.

Many don't know, related or not, baseball WAS integrated for most of its early decades, with some power players being instrumental in pushing blacks out. Cap Anson, Charlie Comiskey being two. Last black player (sort of, there were "Cuban" players who weren't really Cuban who stuck around for a while) before Jackie Robinson was active in the 1890s.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:18 PM (+cfsD)

177 I hope, I hope, I hope, that Allen group turns ABC into the new BET network!

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 18, 2023 05:18 PM (i9ffA)

178
1.
Maybe Wilson?
Posted by: Archer

OK, him for starters. I was only saying that FDR should have gone a different way.

2.
...as her husband immediately re-segregated the armed forces that had been integrating under Coolidge and Hoover.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

I suspect (without have read any real history on the subject) that she (from the "good" branch of the Roosevelt family) made an effort to be ant-segregation mostly to counter his racism and that that caused a lot of tension between the two. FDR was an ass.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 05:18 PM (d5suT)

179 Woodie instituted formal segregation of the federal government.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2023 05:17 PM (5jVrT)

Got a bridge named after him, too.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 18, 2023 05:18 PM (4I/2K)

180 One of the most popular beers in India is called British Empire. The Indians have a complicated relationship with the history of colonialism in India. Many many Indians see the Brits not as colonizers, but as liberators and builders. The country was a backwards, primitive shithole before the Brits took over. They left a modern, mostly functioning infrastructure.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 18, 2023 05:14 PM (wPEdt)



Detriments you call us? Detriments? Well I want to remind you that it was detriments like us that built this bloody Empire. Hats on! About turn! By the left, quick march!

- Peachy Carnehan with Daniel Dravot



Posted by: Aliens at September 18, 2023 05:19 PM (gmo/4)

181 Theory: Missing F-35 has been seized by aliens. Air Force has radar images and fuzzy video.

Posted by: Ripley at September 18, 2023 05:12 PM (JojsZ)

Rumor was, when I was in Germany a division audit found we were missing an Abrams tank.

It became a joke, but I think everyone assumed, if there was indeed, a "missing" tank, it was the paperwork that was the problem, not an actual tank that was missing.

Now that I think about it though.....

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:21 PM (+cfsD)

182 Sounds about right. I saw some live action footage of Wilson recently. That man was evil personified.

Sometimes when we talk about Worst President Evar!, I think we don't give Wilson enough credit where it's due.
Posted by: BurtTC
-------------
Both Wilson and Truman muffed the postwar transition with Wilson causing a depression and Harry unleashing massive inflation.

Then you get the repulsive Wilson being more upset about the Germans using American telegraph lines to send the first and second Zimmerman telegraphs to its Mexican and US ambassadors. Wilson had lent it to the Germans for peace negotiations to prevent the UK from spying on them. Wilson cared more about his personal embarrassment than the Germans trying to ally with Mexico and invade the US SW.

Posted by: whig at September 18, 2023 05:21 PM (5jVrT)

183
I've cancelled all streaming services except Amazon. Hulu? Gone. Netflix? Gone. So I get some semblance of free delivery and a lot of comedies I missed through the 80's', 90's and well beyond. Plus some semblance of free delivery and I chuckle myself to un-woke sleep, mercifully blissful sleep, every night.

To me, a bargain.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 18, 2023 05:21 PM (enJYY)

184 One of the most popular beers in India is called British Empire. The Indians have a complicated relationship with the history of colonialism in India. Many many Indians see the Brits not as colonizers, but as liberators and builders. The country was a backwards, primitive shithole before the Brits took over. They left a modern, mostly functioning infrastructure.

Posted by: Elric Blade
________________

What have the Romans ever done for us?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 18, 2023 05:22 PM (Dm8we)

185 ...that caused a lot of tension between the two. FDR was an ass.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 05:18 PM (d5suT)

That he was a cripple and she was a lesbian prolly caused some tension between the two.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:23 PM (+cfsD)

186 185 ...that caused a lot of tension between the two. FDR was an ass.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 05:18 PM (d5suT)

That he was a cripple and she was a lesbian prolly caused some tension between the two.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:23 PM (+cfsD)

... or lack of tension.

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 05:25 PM (LdYi7)

187 Some of my best friends are commies.
Posted by: FDR at September 18, 2023 05:13 PM (4I/2K)
++++
Your Secretary of State certainly was.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 18, 2023 05:14 PM (t0OGg)
_______________

So was your Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, Harry Dexter White (who negotiated the Bretton Woods agreement), as was, of course, one of your VPs (Henry Wallace). White was busted (posthumously) by the Venona decrypts, while Wallace was so far left that even the Democrats wanted to get rid of him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 18, 2023 05:25 PM (YqDXo)

188 ...that caused a lot of tension between the two. FDR was an ass.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 18, 2023 05:18 PM (d5suT)

That he was a cripple and she was a lesbian prolly caused some tension between the two.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:23 PM (+cfsD)

Intrafamilial gene sharing too, lest we forget. That and she was a stout, no-nonsense woman in sensible shoes.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 18, 2023 05:25 PM (4I/2K)

189 That he was a cripple and she was a lesbian prolly caused some tension between the two.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:23 PM (+cfsD)

Wait......what??

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 18, 2023 05:26 PM (BdMk6)

190 off topic, seen at zero hedge: another place to avoid:

Illinois' new "no-cash bail" provision - the most extreme cash bail abolition in the country - goes into effect September 18, continuing Illinois leaders' long-running move to decriminalize and decarcerate the criminal justice system.

[i expect biden next year will get at least 99.7 percent of the votes in chicago, which is why we need to eliminate the electoral college]

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 18, 2023 05:26 PM (B1FKF)

191 I think that there maybe some real concern that the contaminated alloy in the compressor blades in the Pratt and Whitney engines may have found its way into some of the military jet engines.

This was mentioned in the press release during the announcement of the problem by Raytheon but they said the military had a handle on the situation.

Posted by: pawn at September 18, 2023 05:26 PM (X7f90)

192 Then you get the repulsive Wilson being more upset about the Germans using American telegraph lines to send the first and second Zimmerman telegraphs to its Mexican and US ambassadors. Wilson had lent it to the Germans for peace negotiations to prevent the UK from spying on them. Wilson cared more about his personal embarrassment than the Germans trying to ally with Mexico and invade the US SW.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2023 05:21 PM (5jVrT)

Wilson went to war because it was good for business. No one really believed the Zimmerman telegraph thing. I believe it's been said it wasn't even really from Zimmerman at all, but a British creation.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:26 PM (N/e+r)

193 Byron Allen was a teenager when he started on TV now he's like Ted Turner.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 18, 2023 05:26 PM (eR2aG)

194
Saw "A Haunting in Venice",

which is the third of Kenneth Branagh's Agatha Christie Hercule Poirot mystery movies.

Surprisingly, it's the best one so far. The dark, claustrophobic setting in a small Venice palazzo along with a reduced cast really helps this one to work.

There's no huge anachronistic foofaraw to try and accommodate woke tastes except maybe having Michelle Yeoh in the cast.

Great acting and superior directing all around. Good script. But, you know the dealio-murder happens Hercule Poirot figures it out.

This one has a lot of twists and turns. And you may figure out the murderer. I did very late in the story but you won't be able to figure out why till the explanation comes, and even then there's a nice surprise to come, which you probably suspect but won't exactly know what it is.

Good olde-fashioned time at the movies.

Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 18, 2023 05:27 PM (QzZeQ)

195 ... or lack of tension.
Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 05:25 PM (LdYi7)

*rimshot*

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:27 PM (N/e+r)

196 The Indians have a complicated relationship with the history of colonialism in India.

This is perhaps the largest cultural touchstone we share with India.

The US was generally at loggerheads with Britain until the 20th century, and it wasn't all skittles and beer after that either. And yet you seldom see attempts to root out all memory of Britain.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 18, 2023 05:27 PM (4PZHB)

197 195 ... or lack of tension.
Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 05:25 PM (LdYi7)

*rimshot*
Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:27 PM (N/e+r)

; )

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 05:28 PM (LdYi7)

198 Sometimes when we talk about Worst President Evar!, I think we don't give Wilson enough credit where it's due.
Posted by: BurtTC
_____________

Let's see:

1. Segregated the military
2. Showed "Birth of a Nation" in the White House
3. Established the Federal Reserve (IIRC)
4. Established the income tax

Yep, he's a strong contender for the worst.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 18, 2023 05:28 PM (YqDXo)

199 184 One of the most popular beers in India is called British Empire. The Indians have a complicated relationship with the history of colonialism in India. Many many Indians see the Brits not as colonizers, but as liberators and builders. The country was a backwards, primitive shithole before the Brits took over. They left a modern, mostly functioning infrastructure.

Posted by: Elric Blade
________________

What have the Romans ever done for us?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 18, 2023 05:22 PM (Dm8w

————-

Quality reference and exactly

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 18, 2023 05:29 PM (wPEdt)

200
That he was a cripple and she was a lesbian prolly caused some tension between the two.

Not one of our more popular downloads. Except in John Fetterman's home district in Pennsylvania.

Posted by: PronHub at September 18, 2023 05:29 PM (enJYY)

201 That he was a cripple and she was a lesbian prolly caused some tension between the two.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:23 PM (+cfsD)

Wait......what??
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 18, 2023 05:26 PM (BdMk6)

You think THAT'S bad... are you sitting down? JFK was unfaithful to his wife!

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:30 PM (+MpES)

202 I saw Deeply Historically Ignorant open for County Joe and the Fish at the Yazgurs Farm Reunion and Muddy Slip and Slide weekend in "04 on a side note Raine had gained 45 lbs and had bad knees. It was sad seeing her flop and had to be dragged the rest of the way by Stag her BF..

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at September 18, 2023 05:30 PM (C4xAj)

203 I think that there maybe some real concern that the contaminated alloy in the compressor blades in the Pratt and Whitney engines may have found its way into some of the military jet engines.

This was mentioned in the press release during the announcement of the problem by Raytheon but they said the military had a handle on the situation.
Posted by: pawn at September 18, 2023 05:26 PM (X7f90)

Yup. The ejection handle.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 18, 2023 05:30 PM (BdMk6)

204 The President and Mrs. Coolidge were being shown around an experimental government farm. When she came to the chicken yard she noticed that a rooster was mating very frequently. She asked the attendant how often that happened and was told, “Dozens of times each day.” Mrs. Coolidge said, “Tell that to the President when he comes by.”

Upon being told, Coolidge asked, “Same hen every time?” The reply was, “Oh no, Mr. President, a different hen every time.” Coolidge: “Tell that to Mrs. Coolidge!”

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 18, 2023 05:31 PM (4I/2K)

205 Then he got a show called Comics Unleashed where he did roundtable interviews with comics. Oh, you couldn't be more leashed.

I miss Norm

Posted by: Kitchener Lesley at September 18, 2023 05:33 PM (CgQvH)

206 One of my kids had a gay English teacher in ninth grade (later fired for accidentally-on-purpose displaying gay porn on his classroom projector). Anyway, he had pictures of prominent people on display in his classroom, Oscar Wilde setting the tone, and notably including Eleanor Roosevelt. Without being aware he was standing behind me, I exclaimed, "hey, these are all pictures of famous homosexuals. Sort of strange choices..."

I got a frosty reception the rest of the term.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 18, 2023 05:33 PM (053ci)

207 And just like the my dreams of a Bachelor, Tansgender Edition, are ruined.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 18, 2023 05:34 PM (AHJdW)

208 eleanor roosevelt would later write a syndicated column. in one column, i guess in the early 1950s, she said she could believe the jury believed whittaker chambers and not that nice mr alger hiss. someone years ago (maj george racey jordan, i think his name was, he used to do the birch society lecture circuit in the 1960s) noted that mrs roosevelt belonged to more communist front groups than most communists did.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 18, 2023 05:34 PM (B1FKF)

209 What did Jackie say to her husband as they sped toward Parkland Memorial?

I'm getting tired of someone else exploding your head all over the car seats!

Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:35 PM (lrmsj)

210 That he was a cripple and she was a lesbian prolly caused some tension between the two.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:23 PM (+cfsD)

Wait......what??
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 18, 2023 05:26 PM (BdMk6)

You think THAT'S bad... are you sitting down? JFK was unfaithful to his wife!
Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:30 PM (+MpES)
==========
Next you're going to claim Catherine the Great wasn't hanging around the barn just because she liked afternoon trail rides.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 18, 2023 05:35 PM (053ci)

211 158 Byron Allen tried to buy the Denver Broncos and Washington Redskins/Commodes. He also tried for Tegna, which owns a boatload of local TV stations. Methinks he's a stalking horse for more shadowy types.

Street Smarts. The other white meat!!

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at September 18, 2023 05:36 PM (C4xAj)

212 205 Then he got a show called Comics Unleashed where he did roundtable interviews with comics. Oh, you couldn't be more leashed.

I miss Norm
Posted by: Kitchener Lesley at September 18, 2023 05:33 PM (CgQvH)

I miss Norm, too.

Posted by: m at September 18, 2023 05:38 PM (LdYi7)

213 FYI Nood

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 18, 2023 05:38 PM (4I/2K)

214 mrs roosevelt belonged to more communist front groups than most communists did.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 18, 2023 05:34 PM (B1FKF)
=================
She wasn't happy, I'll bet, when Henry Wallace got the boot. He could have been America's first openly commie President, beating Barack The Magnificent by six decades.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 18, 2023 05:38 PM (053ci)

215 Um, Truman did not muff the peace at the end of WWII. Through MacArthur, he made Japan our best and most productive ally in the world. And yes I never drive GMs or Fords.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 18, 2023 05:40 PM (nnp+f)

216 159
Theory: Missing F-35 has been seized by aliens. Air Force has radar images and fuzzy video.
Posted by: Ripley

Coast to Coast AM will no doubt figure it out.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.



Could use a man like Art Bell again!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 18, 2023 05:41 PM (sAmhv)

217 Moses Fleetwood Walker and Weldy Wilberforce Walker played for the major league Toledo Blue Stockings when they won the national championship that was not yet called the World Series.

Surprisingly, dropping this piece of black history in a corporate racism seminar does not win you the beer bet. Irrational Fraction Bank declined to name the Mud Hens stadium for them, but there is a bar named after Fleetwood across the street.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 18, 2023 05:41 PM (4PZHB)

218 OT: side bar about Chicago Gov't owned grocery store...
quote from article:
The City of Chicago is reimagining the role government can play in our lives

Not really. I think it's called communism.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 18, 2023 05:43 PM (ynpvh)

219 216 159
Theory: Missing F-35 has been seized by aliens. Air Force has radar images and fuzzy video.
Posted by: Ripley

Coast to Coast AM will no doubt figure it out.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


Could use a man like Art Bell again!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 18, 2023 05:41 PM (sAmhv)

Sure it wasn't a black hole?

Posted by: Don Lemon at September 18, 2023 05:44 PM (ynpvh)

220 I think it's incorrect that Catherine the Great had sex with
horses, and died from having sex with a horse. Yes, she had numerous lovers, but the "horse sex" rumor came about decades after her death.

Marie Antionette didn't say, "Let them eat cake" either .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 18, 2023 05:45 PM (RSbhh)

221 They're freaking out, man.

Dave's not here, man.

Thruway's closed, man.

Posted by: Sixties Calling at September 18, 2023 05:48 PM (83IzV)

222 I've cancelled all streaming services except Amazon. Hulu? Gone. Netflix? Gone. So I get some semblance of free delivery and a lot of comedies I missed through the 80's', 90's and well beyond. Plus some semblance of free delivery and I chuckle myself to un-woke sleep, mercifully blissful sleep, every night.

To me, a bargain.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 18, 2023 05:21 PM (enJYY)

Watched a marathon of Our Miss Brooks Episodes from 1952 to 1955. I watched that show as a kid and loved it. She reminded me of my second grade teacher. Gale Gordon was excellent as the principal. Filmed by Desilu studios.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at September 18, 2023 05:50 PM (Zvtjl)

223 Thanks, Fenelon. I was going to jump in to dispel the Catherine the Great story as well. People should read a biography. A very interesting woman.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at September 18, 2023 06:21 PM (fTtFy)

224 Didn't Allen have a comedy station, and then proceeded to just sue distributors claiming if they didn't carry his network for his high price, for discrimination.

He's sued Charter for $10 billion, Comcast for $20 billion, Nielsen ratings, and McDonald's for a few billion.

He's a race hustler, and probably in the end he'll sue Disney, because they'll reject his offer, not because his finances are all bs, but because of racism.

Posted by: Rbastid at September 18, 2023 06:36 PM (rJhHb)

225 In Ashoka, Thrawn is the MacGuffin that can be found via a hidden map...

How Rey found Luke redux.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 18, 2023 04:50 PM (kvfoI)
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It's about the only storytelling the current crop of Disney writers seem to know.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 18, 2023 04:57 PM (YIVH2)

What's even funnier is that two thirds of the non evil cast are "women" that have some sort of giant knee socks / pool noodles on their heads all the time.

One even has a kid that somehow has normal (for humans) hair, I guess the pool noodles are recessive

Posted by: Oldcat at September 18, 2023 06:43 PM (eoQWY)

226 I think it's incorrect that Catherine the Great had sex with
horses, and died from having sex with a horse. Yes, she had numerous lovers, but the "horse sex" rumor came about decades after her death.

Marie Antionette didn't say, "Let them eat cake" either .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 18, 2023 05:45 PM (RSbhh)

IIRC she was also pretty old at the time of her death, not some young thing who might consider getting sporty.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 18, 2023 06:49 PM (eoQWY)

227 Moses Fleetwood Walker and Weldy Wilberforce Walker played for the major league Toledo Blue Stockings when they won the national championship that was not yet called the World Series.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 18, 2023 05:41 PM (4PZHB)

The Blue Stockings were in the American Association for one year, 1884. The AA is considered a major league, but they did not win the pennant, the New York Metropolitans did. The Metropolitans did not win the World Series, the National League Providence team did with Hoss Radbourne winning 60 games as a pitcher.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 18, 2023 07:00 PM (eoQWY)

228 Then you get the repulsive Wilson being more upset about the Germans using American telegraph lines to send the first and second Zimmerman telegraphs to its Mexican and US ambassadors. Wilson had lent it to the Germans for peace negotiations to prevent the UK from spying on them. Wilson cared more about his personal embarrassment than the Germans trying to ally with Mexico and invade the US SW.
Posted by: whig at September 18, 2023 05:21 PM (5jVrT)

Wilson went to war because it was good for business. No one really believed the Zimmerman telegraph thing. I believe it's been said it wasn't even really from Zimmerman at all, but a British creation.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 18, 2023 05:26 PM (N/e+r)

Oh I believe it. Nobody knows how to screw up diplomacy like Germany post Bismarck. The dotty Kaiser somehow got Brits and French to get along for two wars when they'd been attacking each other 90 percent of the time for the last 400 years.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 18, 2023 07:05 PM (eoQWY)

229 Yeah, they tend to gloss over the fact that the Star Wars galaxy is huge (bigger than ours) and that it takes time to travel from place to place. Of course, that tends to be somewhat boring to show, unless you have some snappy dialogue or interesting side adventures along the way. That's far beyond today's Star Wars writer.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 18, 2023 05:04 PM (YIVH2)

Huge, hah. Every planet is a few hours flight based on the shows and a fighter ship can fly anywhere it wants with no need to refuel or worry about range, until the last movie or so when they changed everything. Luke's X Wing can fly to Yoda and back, Darth Vader can reach a safe harbor even after being damaged by the Falcon.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 18, 2023 07:16 PM (eoQWY)

230 Byron Allen saved and invested all the money he made on Real People. Eventually he had enough to start buying up entertainment properties. It's amazing what you can accomplish by not blowing through all your money like a drunken sailor. Like most Hollywood actors.

He had a single mother, born poor and in Detroit. But got into comedy and put himself through college doing standup.

So why isn't that guy a hero to the black community?

Posted by: Garbled memo at September 18, 2023 08:23 PM (8E/8X)

231 Married since 2007, with three kids. Great dad. And has the most expensive house in Beverly hills.

Owns the Weather channel of all things.

Posted by: Garbled memo at September 18, 2023 08:25 PM (8E/8X)

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