The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

With almost 14 months to go until the 2024 presidential election, the polls are beginning to fly thick and fast. Ignoring for a moment the ridiculous bias inherent in many of the polling companies, the reticence of many Americans about admitting who they support, and realizing that 14 months is an eternity in politics, there is still a huge problem with paying attention to any general election poll.

The electoral college! These polls are national polls, and mean absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of presidential elections. Does it really matter what anyone in California thinks about a race between Trump and Biden? Or South Carolina or Minnesota or Kansas or Oregon or Wyoming?

The only thing that matters is the election results in the swing states, and those are not reflected in any of these polls.

Here is RealClearPolitics list of the latest polls.

2024 Iowa Republican Presidential Caucus
FOX Business Trump 46, DeSantis 15, Haley 11, Ramaswamy 7, Scott 7, Christie 3, Pence 3, Burgum 2, Binkley 1, Hurd 0, Hutchinson 0 Trump +31
2024 South Carolina Republican Presidential Primary FOX Business Trump 46, Haley 18, DeSantis 10, Scott 9, Christie 4, Ramaswamy 5, Pence 4, Hutchinson 1, Burgum 0 Trump +28
2024 Democratic Presidential Nomination Rasmussen Reports Biden 57, Kennedy 25, Williamson 3 Biden +32
President Biden Job Approval Rasmussen Reports Approve 46, Disapprove 53 Disapprove +7
2024 Republican Presidential Nomination
Emerson Trump 59, DeSantis 12, Ramaswamy 7, Haley 3, Pence 5, Christie 5, Scott 2, Burgum 1, Hutchinson 1 Trump +47
2024 Democratic Presidential Nomination
Emerson Biden 62, Kennedy 14, Williamson 4 Biden +48
General Election: Trump vs. Biden
Emerson Trump 45, Biden 45 Tie
General Election: Trump vs. Biden vs. West
Emerson Trump 43, Biden 42, West 4 Trump +1
2024 Republican Presidential Nomination
Yahoo News Trump 59, DeSantis 13, Ramaswamy 5, Haley 5, Pence 3, Christie 1, Scott 1, Burgum 1, Hutchinson 0 Trump +46
2024 Democratic Presidential Nomination
Yahoo News Biden 68, Kennedy 7, Williamson 4 Biden +61
General Election: Trump vs. Biden
Yahoo News Trump 44, Biden 44 Tie
General Election: DeSantis vs. Biden
Yahoo News Biden 44, DeSantis 41 Biden +3

Sure, it's fun to look at these and wonder who the hell thinks Fat F*ck Christie is a worthwhile candidate for president, or who the profound retards are who think that Biden is doing a good job.

But it's only the swing states that matter: Georgia, Virginia, Wisconsin, and maybe Arizona (although I despair for that state). We can quibble about which states are truly in play, and of course the 800 pound gorilla in the room is the Democrat cheat apparatus, which is alive and well and being tuned up for November 2024, with apparently zero resistance from the national GOP.

Sure, we can argue about Michigan, with the tremendous dissatisfaction with the Biden Junta's push for EV production, which will gut auto industry employment. But the wicked witch of the Mid-West is firmly in control there, and if you want to bet against Gretchen Whitmer, good luck. And if you are high as a kite, we can chat about New Hampshire. But that state is trending blue because of the exodus from Massachusetts, and I doubt they will vote Republican ever again. Pennsylvania? Don't hold your breath. Hell...they voted in a brain-dead Frankenstein stand-in for senator, and the cheat in Philadelphia is powerful and unchallenged, so PA is probably a lost cause.

In fact, it will be an uphill battle no matter what. The fights that should have been fought are over, and the good guys lost. Ronna Romney McDaniel (the chair of the RNC) presided over catastrophic losses in 2018, 2020, and 2022, and she was rewarded with another term at the top of the party apparatus. Mitch McConnell was retained by the Republicans as Senate Minority Leader, in spite of his obvious hand in losing what could have been a tremendous 2022 midterm election.

These are perfect examples of the dysfunction of the Republican party. The Democrats were rocked back on their heels by the economy, geopolitical failures, and a stumbling, incoherent crook at the top of the party, yet the GOPe snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, all because of their antipathy for Donald Trump and his nationalist/populist supporters.

They would rather lose than see a resurgent Republican party with Americans as its focus, and until that changes, 2024 and beyond are probably out of reach.

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:00 AM (Zz0t1)

2 Polls are for strippers.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:01 AM (Zz0t1)

3 1?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:01 AM (xTRSc)

4 Sponge!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2023 11:01 AM (izj35)

5 "Trump is a terrible candidate and no one supports him because some shlub got beat in New Hampshire."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:01 AM (Zz0t1)

6 Dammit, Sponge.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:01 AM (xTRSc)

7 The electoral college! These polls are national polls, and mean absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of presidential elections. Does it really matter what anyone in California thinks about a race between Trump and Biden? Or South Carolina or Minnesota or Kansas or Oregon or Wyoming?
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It will once we restore fairness by implementing a National Popular Vote standard!

Or, you, know, none of it matters anyway because we're now a post-democracy. Whatever!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:01 AM (t0OGg)

8 That last sentence, CBD. Nuke bomb of truth.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 21, 2023 11:02 AM (KbCG3)

9 Stripper thread!

Wooooo!

I'll bring the coke!

Posted by: Hunter Biden at September 21, 2023 11:02 AM (9UlRk)

10 the polls are beginning to fly thick and fast

Also known as "John Holmes Syndrome."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)

11 Still betting Sundowner won't make the cut

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2023 11:02 AM (cjaXC)

12 I do not believe that Haley would get more then 2% of the vote anywhere including in the state she poorly governed.

But someone is giving her tons of cash for ad buys so I guess the uniparty wanted to see if she could be their Trump beater?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2023 11:03 AM (XqcwY)

13 These are perfect examples of the dysfunction of the Republican party.
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It's functioning perfectly.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 21, 2023 11:03 AM (RIvkX)

14 But it's only the swing states that matter: Georgia, Virginia, Wisconsin, and maybe Arizona (although I despair for that state). We can quibble about which states are truly in play, and of course the 800 pound gorilla in the room is the Democrat cheat apparatus, which is alive and well and being tuned up for November 2024, with apparently zero resistance from the national GOP.

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The latter point is all that matters.

Polls have always been hinky at best because of problems with the process along with the fact that public polling has little incentive, especially more than a year out, to be accurate to the actual result at all. Now, they know they have cover to say whatever. They cover their butts by calling races neck and neck.

If we don't have a way to prevent Detroit from saying that a few hundred ballot boxes have 1000 ballots in them when there are only 10, then what does a poll of MI mean?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:03 AM (LvTSG)

15 SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2023 11:03 AM (aQy7p)

16 These are perfect examples of the dysfunction of the Republican party. The Democrats were rocked back on their heels by the economy, geopolitical failures, and a stumbling, incoherent crook at the top of the party, yet the GOPe snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, all because of their antipathy for Donald Trump and his nationalist/populist supporters.

You get less graft with a D president as a GOPer but...under Trump you could lose it all.

And that's really how simple the calculus is...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2023 11:03 AM (XqcwY)

17 Sponge - EWWW!!

Exits to get eye bleach.

Posted by: Iris at September 21, 2023 11:04 AM (NaH5I)

18 Yup, if basement Joe won in 2020, there is no way as long as he appears to be breathing that he will NOT win in 2024. If the cheat worked in 2020, why wouldn't it work this time? 60,000 votes for Joe on a thumb drive? Um sure.

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at September 21, 2023 11:04 AM (roPuI)

19 Also, these polls are meant to create bias not reflect it. Perhaps I'm being repetitive.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 21, 2023 11:04 AM (RIvkX)

20 It's functioning perfectly.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 21, 2023 11:03 AM (RIvkX)

Good point. The Republican party is functioning as intended, and THAT is the real issue.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 11:04 AM (lQONO)

21 I remain impressed that they figured out a way to beat the electoral college system with five moveable cities. You have to admire it.

Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 21, 2023 11:05 AM (+MSSo)

22 They would rather lose than see a resurgent Republican party with Americans as its focus, and until that changes, 2024 and beyond are probably out of reach.

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Our problems are post-legal.

Our solutions need to be post-legal.

Unfortunately, I suspect that 2024 will see an open cheat once more, more obvious than in both 2020 and 2022, and the people will take it once more. Conservatives will flee purple states turning hard blue because of cheating instead of staying and fighting.

We're in for another generation of the cheating directing national and federal policy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:05 AM (LvTSG)

23 >>all because of their antipathy for Donald Trump and his nationalist/populist supporters. They would rather lose than see a resurgent Republican party with Americans as its focus, and until that changes, 2024 and beyond are probably out of reach.

Eh, they hated the Tea Party passionately before The Don entered the stage. Long past time to acknowledge that they hate their voters and are only there to lose with dignity while getting their piece of the pie.

Work is so much easier when you're in the minority party - low expectations, always another fake goal to hype (let's win the Senate! Let's abolish Obamacare!) that requires your donations NOW!!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2023 11:05 AM (izj35)

24 Dammit, Sponge.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:01 AM (xTRSc)

WOOT!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)

25 "They would rather lose than see a resurgent Republican party with Americans as its focus"

THIS right here. until the national GOPe is as relevant as the whig party, we have no hope...

Posted by: SturmToddler at September 21, 2023 11:05 AM (WCmE7)

26 I see absolutely no problem with this
-Glitch McConnell

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 11:05 AM (CIS44)

27 23 Eh, they hated the Tea Party passionately before The Don entered the stage. Long past time to acknowledge that they hate their voters and are only there to lose with dignity while getting their piece of the pie.

Work is so much easier when you're in the minority party - low expectations, always another fake goal to hype (let's win the Senate! Let's abolish Obamacare!) that requires your donations NOW!!
Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2023 11:05 AM (izj35)

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I'm still a Robert Taft man, myself.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:06 AM (LvTSG)

28 PA is gone. They just started automatic voter registration, the Holy Grail of ballot harvesting. It will never go R again and thousands of Penntards will be surprises to find out they voted in every election.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2023 11:06 AM (JTwsP)

29 Sponge - EWWW!!

Exits to get eye bleach.
Posted by: Iris at September 21, 2023 11:04 AM (NaH5I)

HEY!!!! CBD wrote it!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:06 AM (Zz0t1)

30 They would rather lose than see a resurgent Republican party with Americans as its focus, and until that changes, 2024 and beyond are probably out of reach.

The Dildo, he speaks the truth.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 21, 2023 11:06 AM (AW0uW)

31 They would rather lose than see a resurgent Republican party with Americans as its focus, and until that changes, 2024 and beyond are probably out of reach.

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

There's one party in D.C., and we ain't in it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2023 11:06 AM (aQy7p)

32 These are perfect examples of the dysfunction of the Republican party. The Democrats were rocked back on their heels by the economy, geopolitical failures, and a stumbling, incoherent crook at the top of the party, yet the GOPe snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, all because of their antipathy for Donald Trump and his nationalist/populist supporters.
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Two things at play in this.
First, the GOP likes being the second-place phony opposition. It gains them an unearned status and they still get what they really want anyway, which is the DNC agenda - except that they get to claim they don't and get rubes to give them money for their fake positions.

Second, The GOP - like the other side of the Uniparty - has active antipathy for the people. They *hate* the people. If the people want something that is not a fake choice as a part of their false dichotomy, then the people must be put in their place. Better to lose - even *actually* lose, not just a fake Uniparty-style loss - rather than let the people win. They'd rather die - literally die - than do what the people want. We are scum. They don't answer to us.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:06 AM (t0OGg)

33 28 PA is gone. They just started automatic voter registration, the Holy Grail of ballot harvesting. It will never go R again and thousands of Penntards will be surprises to find out they voted in every election.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2023 11:06 AM (JTwsP)

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There is a lawsuit to stop it, so we'll see.

But I'm not hopeful.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:06 AM (LvTSG)

34 This just makes me wonder when we truly lost the ability to turn the tide. Was it during Reagan's presidency? They fooled me (and all of us I think) for such a long time. We had inklings that something was wrong but just didn't see the rot in time. What would it have been like if a real opposition party had been formed and Establishment GOPe destroyed back then?

Posted by: Iris at September 21, 2023 11:07 AM (NaH5I)

35 But it's only the swing states that matter: Georgia, Virginia, Wisconsin, and maybe Arizona (although I despair for that state).

Virginia, under Youngkin and AG Miyares, has made progress in purging the cheat.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 11:07 AM (I/Qkd)

36 Eh, they hated the Tea Party passionately before The Don entered the stage. Long past time to acknowledge that they hate their voters and are only there to lose with dignity while getting their piece of the pie.

Work is so much easier when you're in the minority party - low expectations, always another fake goal to hype (let's win the Senate! Let's abolish Obamacare!) that requires your donations NOW!!
Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2023 11:05 AM (izj35)
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You beat me to the punch!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:07 AM (t0OGg)

37 Failure Theater only works if you FAIL.
They will keep failing.

Hey, where's Lindsay Graham to tout GOP plans to outlaw ALL abortion at the federal level? Maybe he's waiting until some GOP candidates are looking like winners. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2023 11:07 AM (izj35)

38 These are perfect examples of the dysfunction of the Republican party. The Democrats were rocked back on their heels by the economy, geopolitical failures, and a stumbling, incoherent crook at the top of the party, yet the GOPe snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, all because of their antipathy for Donald Trump and his nationalist/populist supporters.
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It is hard not to be a little bitter about the abject failure of Republicans.

Loss after loss, and not a single person was replaced.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 11:07 AM (cI2FV)

39 I don't know much about Burgum, but I do like what he did with that mountain in South Dakota.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:07 AM (GG4JB)

40 PA is gone. They just started automatic voter registration, the Holy Grail of ballot harvesting.

From what I saw, based on driver's licenses ... absolutely nothing to do with citizenship.

I don't understand how that is remotely legal.

Posted by: spindrift at September 21, 2023 11:07 AM (EGPRf)

41 There is a lawsuit to stop it, so we'll see.

But I'm not hopeful.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:06 AM (LvTSG)
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If the lawsuit is successful, they will move a comma and implement it again. Or just ignore the ruling.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:07 AM (t0OGg)

42 When ballots are counted too many times then its time for bullets. Rivers of Blood is the only thing that will fix this.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 11:08 AM (AMd6i)

43 Have *any* of the erstwhile "swing states" done jack, diddly or squat so as to bring about improvements in Voter Integrity?

Purge Registration of long dead people? Invalid addresses? Non-matching signatures? Vacant lots? Twenty Six voters in a one-bedroom apartment, and etc?

Ensure Chain of Custody for "ballots", from printers, to voting place, to counting center and then post-election storage, as required by law?

Ensure Open, Accurate and ACCOUNTABLE counting of votes, as witnessed by representatives of not only "both" parties, but by ANY interested observer?

If "none of the above", then fuckitall, that State is a writeoff. (lookin' at you, Arizona!)

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 21, 2023 11:08 AM (e6UQI)

44 They would rather lose than see a resurgent Republican party with Americans as its focus, and until that changes, 2024 and beyond are probably out of reach.

Posted by: CBD

This.
The definition of insanity comes to mind.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 21, 2023 11:08 AM (mPZ0l)

45
There's one party in D.C., and we ain't in it.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2023 11:06 AM (aQy7p)

I told you.....

Posted by: Zombie George Carlin at September 21, 2023 11:08 AM (Zz0t1)

46 Biden's approval ratings are in the toilet and most Democrats think he's too old, and yet Trump is merely tied.

We're gonna lose to the Crypt Keeper and we'll deserve it.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at September 21, 2023 11:08 AM (xL1oi)

47 41 If the lawsuit is successful, they will move a comma and implement it again. Or just ignore the ruling.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:07 AM (t0OGg)

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The latter.

Then an "oopsie," and another ruling, 10 months after the election, shaming them into not doing it again. Except they'll do it again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:08 AM (LvTSG)

48 It is hard not to be a little bitter about the abject failure of Republicans.

Loss after loss, and not a single person was replaced.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

*Mitch McConnell et al smile and nod*

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 11:08 AM (CIS44)

49 I think we're post-politics now. None of this stuff matters.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 21, 2023 11:08 AM (Q4IgG)

50 They would rather lose than see a resurgent Republican party with Americans as its focus, and until that changes, 2024 and beyond are probably out of reach.

They will not lose. They could be voted out of office but they will not lose. The global aristocrats play "who's on first" while they loot the planet.

The one bright point is the absolute truism is that what cannot continue will not continue. The global aristocrats aren't nearly as bright as they think they are. Cunning, yes, bright, no. All will fall apart and they will will eventually suffer also. It's a small thing but it's not nothing.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 21, 2023 11:08 AM (zhLdt)

51 Work is so much easier when you're in the minority party - low expectations, always another fake goal to hype (let's win the Senate! Let's abolish Obamacare!) that requires your donations NOW!!
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And the Senate dining room! Mwaa!
[makes chef's kiss hand signal]

Posted by: calvin klein at September 21, 2023 11:08 AM (krqg6)

52 I don't understand how that is remotely legal.
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Legal is white supremacy.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 11:08 AM (AMd6i)

53 21 I remain impressed that they figured out a way to beat the electoral college system with five moveable cities. You have to admire it.

Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 21, 2023 11:05 AM (+MSSo)

Maybe I was naive, but in 2020, I remember telling my father that the only reason they were running Joe is because they knew that election was a lost cause and didn't want to fire a real bullet.

To me, it was the only thing that made sense. An old, white retread (tard, whichever) against a guy who was drawing massive crowds everywhere he went.

And then...they pulled it off. Like you said, they managed something I couldn't have foreseen.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 21, 2023 11:08 AM (KbCG3)

54 Or just ignore the ruling.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:07 AM (t0OGg)

oh should we not have done that? Oopsie.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 11:09 AM (CIS44)

55 >> They'd rather die - literally die - than do what the people want. We are scum. They don't answer to us.

*John McCain's ghost arrives and with a melodramatic flourish, he upvotes this comment*

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2023 11:09 AM (izj35)

56 It is hard not to be a little bitter about the abject failure of Republicans.

Loss after loss, and not a single person was replaced.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 11:07 AM (cI2FV)
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I don't think it is failure. Simple incompetence or even gross incompetence does not result in such a consistent outcome time after time for decades. Just by blind chance, they'd get something right.

It's intentional. It's failure, it's goal-achievement. It just happens that your goals are not theirs.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:09 AM (t0OGg)

57 Whacko-birdz!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2023 11:10 AM (izj35)

58 The latter.

Then an "oopsie," and another ruling, 10 months after the election, shaming them into not doing it again. Except they'll do it again.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:08 AM (LvTSG)

oh should we not have done that? Oopsie.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 11:09 AM (CIS44)

Damn you TJM!

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 11:10 AM (CIS44)

59 The Republican party is functioning as intended, and THAT is the real issue.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 11:04 AM (lQONO)

May I add something to this? IMO, the real issue is not whether the GOP is part of the Uniparty, a crooked outfit existing only for graft, slave labor and outsourcing and a collection of grifters, liars and nickelfuckers who loathe the average Republican voter. . .

The issue is that 'Republicans' who despise the GOP continue to vote for them! And until that changes - until every incumbent is thrown out on their ass or the GOP is drowned by the wave of a new, populist American party, nothing will ever change.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 21, 2023 11:10 AM (AW0uW)

60 45
There's one party in D.C., and we ain't in it.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2023 11:06 AM (aQy7p)

I told you.....
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DC is owned by Manhattan. Let's be clear.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 11:10 AM (AMd6i)

61 56 It's intentional. It's failure, it's goal-achievement. It just happens that your goals are not theirs.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:09 AM (t0OGg)

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They fail against Democrats because Democrats are not their enemy.

They win against conservatives because conservatives are their enemy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:10 AM (LvTSG)

62 I'm still a Robert Taft man, myself.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:06 AM (LvTSG)

Mister, we could use a man like Calvin Coolidge again.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 21, 2023 11:10 AM (AW0uW)

63 Biden's approval ratings are in the toilet and most Democrats think he's too old, and yet Trump is merely tied.

We're gonna lose to the Crypt Keeper and we'll deserve it.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at September 21, 2023 11:08 AM (xL1oi)

Because polls, which haven't been accurate in decades, should be trusted and panicked over.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:11 AM (Zz0t1)

64 I told you.....
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DC is owned by Manhattan. Let's be clear.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 11:10 AM (AMd6i)

Time to bus in some of those lovely "asylum " seekers...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2023 11:11 AM (bs+z0)

65 The problem with polls, as far as I can tell, is they call people on the phone.

How can these be even remotely accurate, when no one is contacting the people whose ballots matter the most. I mean, last I checked, they don't have phones in crypts.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:11 AM (GG4JB)

66 They fail against Democrats because Democrats are not their enemy.

They win against conservatives because conservatives are their enemy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:10 AM (LvTSG)
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Yup.

Beyond that, the Democrats are their allies. Their brothers. Same side, ride-or-die, all-in partners.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:11 AM (t0OGg)

67 But it's only the swing states that matter

I like Glen Miller.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at September 21, 2023 11:11 AM (zLfni)

68 The Praetorian Guard and the Legions choose the Emperor.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at September 21, 2023 11:12 AM (JkeTM)

69 >>We're gonna lose to the Crypt Keeper and we'll deserve it.

Why do we deserve it?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2023 11:12 AM (izj35)

70 @22

>>We're in for another generation of the cheating directing national and federal policy.

It's a has been pointed out, a mostly red county map in a state like Colorado results in Democrat supermajorities throughout the state.

Voting, in the main, is largely fortified in most states and locales and has been a joke for a generation or more.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2023 11:12 AM (rc3Z7)

71 The problem with polls, as far as I can tell, is they call people on the phone.

How can these be even remotely accurate, when no one is contacting the people whose ballots matter the most. I mean, last I checked, they don't have phones in crypts.
Posted by: BurtTC

I get texts for MI polling all the time since I still have a MI number. I either ignore them or give them bullshit answers if I'm bored.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 11:12 AM (CIS44)

72 Have *any* of the erstwhile "swing states" done jack, diddly or squat so as to bring about improvements in Voter Integrity?

As a addendum to this...if Slow Joe legitimately won the election HE would be pushing for improving election integrity.

"I won last time fair and square and I'm going to beat Trump again by a wider margin with whatever increased vote security we can implement!"

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2023 11:12 AM (XqcwY)

73 70 @22

>>We're in for another generation of the cheating directing national and federal policy.

It's a has been pointed out, a mostly red county map in a state like Colorado results in Democrat supermajorities throughout the state.

Voting, in the main, is largely fortified in most states and locales and has been a joke for a generation or more.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2023 11:12 AM (rc3Z7)

New York says hello.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 21, 2023 11:13 AM (KbCG3)

74 Someone in my office building is tapping in some little nails and making a racket.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 21, 2023 11:13 AM (44ww/)

75 67 But it's only the swing states that matter

I like Glen Miller.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at September 21, 2023 11:11 AM (zLfni)

Fun guy, very talented lips and a heck of a good sport.

Posted by: Plato's Retreat at September 21, 2023 11:13 AM (z+89e)

76
Why do we deserve it?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2023 11:12 AM (izj35)

Right... I don't deserve this neither does my Family and my Moron/ ette friends....Well.. Most of them anyway

Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2023 11:13 AM (bs+z0)

77 Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result is called practice.

Watching someone else do the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is insanity.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2023 11:13 AM (9UlRk)

78 I'm still a Robert Taft man, myself.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:06 AM (LvTSG)

Mister, we could use a man like Calvin Coolidge again.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 21, 2023 11:10 AM (AW0uW)

I'm more of a Smoot man, meself.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:13 AM (GG4JB)

79 Polls lie, elections lie, politicians lie.

Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2023 11:14 AM (z3WCn)

80 43 Have *any* of the erstwhile "swing states" done jack, diddly or squat so as to bring about improvements in Voter Integrity?

Purge Registration of long dead people? Invalid addresses? Non-matching signatures? Vacant lots? Twenty Six voters in a one-bedroom apartment, and etc?

Ensure Chain of Custody for "ballots", from printers, to voting place, to counting center and then post-election storage, as required by law?

Ensure Open, Accurate and ACCOUNTABLE counting of votes, as witnessed by representatives of not only "both" parties, but by ANY interested observer?

If "none of the above", then fuckitall, that State is a writeoff. (lookin' at you, Arizona!)

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at September 21, 2023 11:08 AM (e6UQI)

VA did - so it's the important one to win, since it will be the hardest of the swings to win in a fair election.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 11:14 AM (exHjb)

81 States control the elections.

Leftist shitholes are baking the cheat in the cake.

Odds on that changing are slim and none.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:14 AM (Zz0t1)

82 "I remain impressed that they figured out a way to beat the electoral college system with five moveable cities. You have to admire it."

Kind of like Moneyball.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at September 21, 2023 11:14 AM (JkeTM)

83 against a guy who was drawing massive crowds everywhere he went[

Setting aside the fraud issue (which I have to at least mention so that some autist who says the same thing on the issue every thread doesn't have a virtual aneurysm), the rally stuff is part of the problem. A campaign ought to focus on GOTV efforts like a laser, not these celebrity/rock concert jamborees.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2023 11:14 AM (KFhLj)

84 It is hard not to be a little bitter about the abject failure of Republicans.

They didn't fail. They succeeded at their aims. Which are not our aims.

And yet too many even here will still look at them as a viable vessel for achieving goals in a system hopelessly corrupted.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at September 21, 2023 11:14 AM (OUMaO)

85 Polls are for strippers.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 21, 2023 11:14 AM (44ww/)

86 Elections: Work to clean out your voter rolls using methodology per Jay Valentine's work at omega4america(dot)com.

Posted by: Danimal28 at September 21, 2023 11:15 AM (klw0w)

87 Polls are for strippers!

Posted by: Amy Schumer at September 21, 2023 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

88 Strolls are for pippers!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2023 11:15 AM (9UlRk)

89 Why do we deserve it?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2023 11:12 AM (izj35)

Right... I don't deserve this neither does my Family and my Moron/ ette friends....Well.. Most of them anyway

Posted by: It's me donna

Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at September 21, 2023 11:15 AM (OUMaO)

90 I like Glen Miller.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff

I'm a Cab Calloway girl, myself.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 21, 2023 11:15 AM (TNFxq)

91 Most of the people who don't screen their calls are sitting at home with two masks on.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 21, 2023 11:16 AM (44ww/)

92 As a addendum to this...if Slow Joe legitimately won the election HE would be pushing for improving election integrity.

"I won last time fair and square and I'm going to beat Trump again by a wider margin with whatever increased vote security we can implement!"

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2023 11:12 AM (XqcwY)

If they had legitimately won the election they would've stuffed that evidence right in Trump's face.

Instead, they decided not to spike the football after beating the world's greatest threat to democracy.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 21, 2023 11:16 AM (KbCG3)

93 I'm a Cab Calloway girl, myself.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 21, 2023 11:15 AM (TNFx

Minnie the Moocher

Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2023 11:16 AM (bs+z0)

94 Strollers are for poopers.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 21, 2023 11:16 AM (TNFxq)

95 Biden's approval ratings are in the toilet and most Democrats think he's too old, and yet Trump is merely tied.

We're gonna lose to the Crypt Keeper and we'll deserve it.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete

--

It's helpful to understand that EVERYTHING is in service of the cheating.

If they can be presented as tied, then when "black people turn out in record numbers because of the attack" or "women turn out in record numbers because of the Roe v Wade decision" or some other fake justification can tip the scales. Trump said pussy, Trump candidates, etc.

None of it is real. It is all propaganda in pursuit of the goal. And it is masterfully done.

Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 21, 2023 11:16 AM (+MSSo)

96 I'm a Cab Calloway girl, myself.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 21, 2023 11:15 AM (TNFxq)

*Minnie the Moocher has entered the chat*

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 11:16 AM (CIS44)

97 I get texts for MI polling all the time since I still have a MI number. I either ignore them or give them bullshit answers if I'm bored.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 11:12 AM (CIS44)

I should prolly check if I end up voting in Colorado next year. I voted for Lauren Boobert the last two times, I'm guessing I'll be voting for her opponent next year, if I do*.

*For those who don't know, I don't live in Colorado anymore.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:16 AM (GG4JB)

98
Minnie the Moocher
Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2023 11:16 AM (bs+z0)

You asked for it.......

https://youtu.be/zZ5gCGJorKk

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:17 AM (Zz0t1)

99 A campaign ought to focus on GOTV efforts like a laser, not these celebrity/rock concert jamborees.

--

There is none. It's all fake. Trump won in a landslide, and yet he was beaten by districts 100% turnout in populations with 75% illiteracy, 0% math proficiency, and 40-50% high school graduation rates.

There is no "get out the vote." It's all fake.

Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 21, 2023 11:18 AM (+MSSo)

100 Most of the people who don't screen their calls are sitting at home with two masks on.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 21, 2023 11:16 AM (44ww/)

Well sure, that's where they send the government cheese to.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:18 AM (GG4JB)

101 @73

>>New York says hello.

Exactly.

65pct of the counties went for Trump, 35pct of the counties went for Biden.

Obviously the bigger population counties went for Biden, fair enough, but how does that map explain super majorities in the state house and senate?

The only thing that explains that is massive fraud or abject apathy on the part of Republican leaning voters.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2023 11:18 AM (rc3Z7)

102 James O’Keefe sues Hawaii governor over ban on taking photos of fire-ravaged areas
A man criminally charged for taking photos while reporting on the recently deadly Maui fires is now suing Hawaii’s governor together with O’Keefe.

https://tinyurl.com/5da2ebz8
(Lifesite news link)

But, Hawaiian judge....

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 21, 2023 11:18 AM (fs1hN)

103 I told you.....
----------------------
DC is owned by Manhattan. Let's be clear.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 11:10 AM (AMd6i)
===================
This is exactly the opposite of what I see.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 11:19 AM (KBAIt)

104 Minnie the Moocher
Posted by: It's me donna

Yeah, I'm hep to the jive.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 21, 2023 11:19 AM (TNFxq)

105 The electoral system is over. They've successfully corrupted it, and it cannot be brought back on a national level. Our only "hope" (if you want to call it that) is that crisis and collapse comes quickly, and that we can start to rebuild fragments of reasonable systems in a few areas.

speaking of - Reason mag has an article out detailing that the deficit doubled in a single year last year. Yellen says "who cares? deficits mean nothing."

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2023 11:19 AM (i9ffA)

106 Willowed: lawmakers pushing for drug safes and proper storage…for the children.

I disagree. I think if you keep your children in a good retention holster, without a round in their chambers, you're plenty safe.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 21, 2023 11:19 AM (4PZHB)

107
I'm still a Robert Taft man, myself.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston

__________

Taft was kind of the Ted Cruz of his day. Not a likeable man, but a very intelligent one.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2023 11:19 AM (fgPXD)

108 Poles are very definitely FOR strippers.

Posted by: Warsaw gentlemen's club owners at September 21, 2023 11:20 AM (xTRSc)

109 >>Voting, in the main, is largely fortified in most states and locales and has been a joke for a generation or more.

No IDs
No Signature Matching.
No Cleaning of the Voter Rolls.

We are not serious about our elections.

Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2023 11:20 AM (YcYZY)

110 Minnie the Moocher
Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2023 11:16 AM (bs+z0)

You asked for it.......
https://youtu.be/zZ5gCGJorKk
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:17 AM (Zz0t1)

No matter how you get there, if you become a "one hit wonder," at what point do you go from being glad they remember you, to wishing they would forget.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:20 AM (GG4JB)

111 It's a has been pointed out, a mostly red county map in a state like Colorado results in Democrat supermajorities throughout the state.

Voting, in the main, is largely fortified in most states and locales and has been a joke for a generation or more.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2023 11:12 AM (rc3Z7)
++++
This depends on the state. This is *the* critical problem out West and in the states with a mega-city (New York, Illinois). When the urban population vastly outweighs the non-urban population - and especially when that urban population is concentrated in one main urban center - then the state no longer matters. Only the city matters.

Take CO as an example. The Denver Metro had a population 2.963 million people in the 2020 census. The state of CO had 5.773 million people. Over 50% of the state population resides in Metro Denver. It overpowers the rest of the state - especially because the other metro areas (Fort Collins/Greeley and Colorado Springs) just run up the score, though they aren't important on their own. Sparsely-populated big western states with a single city complex is a wet dream for single-party Dem rule.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:21 AM (t0OGg)

112 Strippers should be held in higher social regard than medical doctors or lawyers.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2023 11:21 AM (9UlRk)

113 We are not serious about our elections.

Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2023 11:20 AM (YcYZY)

Sure we are. We're serious about not leaving it up to voters.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:21 AM (GG4JB)

114
No matter how you get there, if you become a "one hit wonder," at what point do you go from being glad they remember you, to wishing they would forget.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:20 AM (GG4JB)

I got this feeling when in Hawaii on a boat cruise down a river. The band asked for requests of Hawaiian tunes and I jokingly blurted out "Tiny Bubbles."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:22 AM (Zz0t1)

115 Strippers should be held in higher social regard than medical doctors or lawyers.

Don't give Trigglypuff any ideas.

Posted by: Warsaw gentlemen's club owners at September 21, 2023 11:22 AM (xTRSc)

116 Breaking News:
Transgender F-35 Pilot has disclosed Ze was 'Jerk Flying' and at the point of ejaculationZe ejected.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at September 21, 2023 11:23 AM (C4xAj)

117 Oops, strike one.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:23 AM (xTRSc)

118 Strippers should be held in higher social regard than medical doctors or lawyers.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2023 11:21 AM (9UlRk)

*Actors and Musicians have entered the chat*

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 11:23 AM (CIS44)

119
Don't give Trigglypuff any ideas.
Posted by: Warsaw gentlemen's club owners at September 21, 2023 11:22 AM (xTRSc)

She's a lawyer?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:23 AM (Zz0t1)

120 Don't give Trigglypuff any ideas.
----------------
Not sure she could swing on a pole. More likely, she would be delivered nude on a forklift.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 11:23 AM (AMd6i)

121 Oops, strike one.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:23 AM (xTRSc)

Heh. You're welcome.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:23 AM (Zz0t1)

122 I disagree. I think if you keep your children in a good retention holster, without a round in their chambers, you're plenty safe.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 21, 2023 11:19 AM (4PZHB)

Yeah, nothing worse than if your child NEEDS fentanyl, they have to go through all that trouble to get to it.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:24 AM (GG4JB)

123 She's a lawyer?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:23 AM (Zz0t1)
++++
No. She makes the laws. Well, people exactly like her, anyway.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:24 AM (t0OGg)

124 There is none. It's all fake. Trump won in a landslide, and yet he was beaten by districts 100% turnout in populations with 75% illiteracy, 0% math proficiency, and 40-50% high school graduation rates.

There is no "get out the vote." It's all fake.

Family members won't listen to your ranting anymore?

Save your "beat the rush, commit suicide now" doom and despair for someone who's interested.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2023 11:24 AM (KFhLj)

125 86 Elections: Work to clean out your voter rolls using methodology per Jay Valentine's work at omega4america(dot)com.
Posted by: Danimal28 at September 21, 2023 11:15 AM (klw0w)

Omega looks amazing!! What we need is a Supreme Court Ruling that gives EVERYONE standing to implement this anti-fraud technology. Not just a state legislator. How do we not have the right to have a clean election? How do the people not have the right to have complete oversight over the cheaters that are abusing us?

Posted by: Iris at September 21, 2023 11:24 AM (NaH5I)

126 >> Strippers should be held in higher social regard than medical doctors or lawyers.

At the very least, the hottest ones should be.

Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2023 11:24 AM (YcYZY)

127
Family members won't listen to your ranting anymore?

Save your "beat the rush, commit suicide now" doom and despair for someone who's interested.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2023 11:24 AM (KFhLj)

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)

128 @111

>>Take CO as an example.

I'm not really talking about state wide or national elections, obviously they can leverage their population advantage to game that.

I'm talking about how an overwehleming red county map can result in the election of a supermajority in the state house and state senate.

NY has 39 red counties and 21 blue counties but somehow that GOP advantage results in supermajorities in the NYS house and senate.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2023 11:24 AM (rc3Z7)

129 If the national media weren't so monolithic, the Uniparty Propaganda effort would sink beneath the waves and the steal would not work.

That's why the IRS and DOJ spent years intimidating Murdoch, and now every Federal agency are entirely focused on Musk (filing regulatory actions and one BS lawsuit after another).

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 11:25 AM (zkgtz)

130 59 The issue is that 'Republicans' who despise the GOP continue to vote for them! And until that changes - until every incumbent is thrown out on their ass or the GOP is drowned by the wave of a new, populist American party, nothing will ever change.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 21, 2023 11:10 AM (AW0uW)

True. Except the GOP apparatus cheats every bit as much as the Dems in their primaries. Also, look at the attempt to lynch Ken Paxton in TX.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2023 11:25 AM (x0n13)

131 No matter how you get there, if you become a "one hit wonder," at what point do you go from being glad they remember you, to wishing they would forget.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:20 AM (GG4JB)

I would be mad. Millions of never-was critics are going to sit there and laugh because you only reached the peak of your profession ONE TIME?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 21, 2023 11:25 AM (KbCG3)

132 Yellen says "who cares? deficits mean nothing."
Posted by: Tom Servo

They don't to Yellen and her cronies.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 21, 2023 11:25 AM (mPZ0l)

133 I got this feeling when in Hawaii on a boat cruise down a river. The band asked for requests of Hawaiian tunes and I jokingly blurted out "Tiny Bubbles."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:22 AM (Zz0t1)

Coulda been worse, I guess. You could have requested "Somewhere Over the Rainbow."

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:25 AM (GG4JB)

134 I got this feeling when in Hawaii on a boat cruise down a river.

There's a river in Hawaii big enough for a boat cruise?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:25 AM (xTRSc)

135 125 Omega looks amazing!! What we need is a Supreme Court Ruling that gives EVERYONE standing to implement this anti-fraud technology. Not just a state legislator. How do we not have the right to have a clean election? How do the people not have the right to have complete oversight over the cheaters that are abusing us?
Posted by: Iris at September 21, 2023 11:24 AM (NaH5I)

=======

"It's a law enforcement matter."
-SCOTUS

"Okay. We won't do it. We're as much a part of the problem as anyone else."
-Law enforcement

*shrugs*
-SCOTUS

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:25 AM (LvTSG)

136 Strippers should be held in higher social regard than medical doctors or lawyers.

https://youtu.be/0dQWIptVNDg

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)

137 @111

>>Take CO as an example.

I'm not really talking about state wide or national elections, obviously they can leverage their population advantage to game that.

I'm talking about how an overwehleming red county map can result in the election of a donk supermajority in the state house and state senate.

NY has 39 red counties and 21 blue counties but somehow that GOP advantage results in donk supermajorities in the NYS house and senate.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2023 11:25 AM (rc3Z7)

138 At the very least, the hottest ones should be.
Posted by: garrett

Is their hotness judged before or after the lights come on at the end of the night?

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 21, 2023 11:25 AM (TNFxq)

139 There is none. It's all fake. Trump won in a landslide, and yet he was beaten by districts 100% turnout in populations with 75% illiteracy, 0% math proficiency, and 40-50% high school graduation rates.

There is no "get out the vote." It's all fake.

-

Family members won't listen to your ranting anymore?

Save your "beat the rush, commit suicide now" doom and despair for someone who's interested.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

-

I appreciate the ad hominem attack.

The point stands.

Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 21, 2023 11:26 AM (+MSSo)

140
There's a river in Hawaii big enough for a boat cruise?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:25 AM (xTRSc)

It wasn't a really big boat. Maybe sat 20 people.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:26 AM (Zz0t1)

141 Coulda been worse, I guess. You could have requested "Somewhere Over the Rainbow."
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:25 AM (GG4JB)

I actually like that Hawaiian version...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 21, 2023 11:26 AM (bs+z0)

142 Climate change models for the next hundred years are probably more accurate than polls right now.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2023 11:26 AM (YIVH2)

143 130 True. Except the GOP apparatus cheats every bit as much as the Dems in their primaries. Also, look at the attempt to lynch Ken Paxton in TX.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 21, 2023 11:25 AM (x0n13)

=======

I vote 3rd party the vast majority of the time.

More people should do that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:26 AM (LvTSG)

144 I'm talking about how an overwehleming red county map can result in the election of a supermajority in the state house and state senate.

NY has 39 red counties and 21 blue counties but somehow that GOP advantage results in supermajorities in the NYS house and senate.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2023 11:24 AM (rc3Z7)
++++
Same answer. It depends on how the districts are drawn and where they represent. The high-density urban areas get more districts, and the gerrymandering takes care of the rest. For example, when I lived there, my rural (and extremely conservative) county was gerrymandered into Boulder's district. Boom. In terms of effective meaning, our votes vanished like dew in the morn. Sure, we could cast ballots, but there was no point.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:26 AM (t0OGg)

145 Sponge, what was the name of the river?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:27 AM (xTRSc)

146 "Biden DOJ Targeting Elon Musk Is Intimidation, Pure And Simple"

https://shorturl.at/eFKN0

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 11:27 AM (zkgtz)

147 James O’Keefe sues Hawaii governor over ban on taking photos of fire-ravaged areas
A man criminally charged for taking photos while reporting on the recently deadly Maui fires is now suing Hawaii’s governor together with O’Keefe.

https://tinyurl.com/5da2ebz8
(Lifesite news link)
-----------
Bobby Harr @BobbyHReports
BREAKING: Project Veritas suspends all operations effective immediately.

CEO @HannahMGiles and Jen Kiyak of Human Resources cite financial ruin as reason for additional layoffs on 9/20/23 leaving merely a handful of employees left.

All investigations halted as of today.
3:47 PM · Sep 20, 2023 2.9M Views

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 21, 2023 11:27 AM (krqg6)

148 No, sorry, nevermind. Everything is just like it was in 1996. Nothing at all happened to pull the curtain back in 2020. It was all a dream.

Just vote everyone! We'll get those 50K votes in those cities this time! I just know it!

Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 21, 2023 11:27 AM (+MSSo)

149
"It's a law enforcement matter."
-SCOTUS

"Okay. We won't do it. We're as much a part of the problem as anyone else."
-Law enforcement

*shrugs*
-SCOTUS
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:25 AM (LvTSG)

"It's a tax"
-SCOTUS

"No Standing"
-SCOTUS

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 11:27 AM (CIS44)

150 I like Glen Miller.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff

I'm a Cab Calloway girl, myself.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 21, 2023 11:15 AM (TNFxq)

I like to swing and sway with Sammy Kaye.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 21, 2023 11:27 AM (AW0uW)

151 I would be mad. Millions of never-was critics are going to sit there and laugh because you only reached the peak of your profession ONE TIME?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 21, 2023 11:25 AM (KbCG3)
++++
As you laugh all the way to the bank, unless you spent and wasted all the money in a bout of euphoric foolishness.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:28 AM (t0OGg)

152 Sponge, what was the name of the river?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:27 AM (xTRSc)

I used river as the term because creek didn't sound appealing.

Give me a moment and I'll see what I can dredge.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)

153 Family members won't listen to your ranting anymore?

Save your "beat the rush, commit suicide now" doom and despair for someone who's interested.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2023 11:24 AM (KFhLj)

No I think he is right on certain terms:

We have been lied to on such a huge scale that we should plumb the depths of the Truman show, to find out the absolute outer limits of it. Like a clogged toilet it is horrifying but necessary.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 21, 2023 11:28 AM (44ww/)

154 >>CEO @HannahMGiles and Jen Kiyak of Human Resources cite financial ruin as reason for additional layoffs on 9/20/23 leaving merely a handful of employees left.

I know how Hannah can make $20.

Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2023 11:29 AM (YcYZY)

155 153 Like a clogged toilet it is horrifying but necessary.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 21, 2023 11:28 AM (44ww/)

========

"I almost drowned!"
-Philly election worker

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:29 AM (LvTSG)

156 The point stands.

You're crying like a child, and throwing your rattle at me because I'm not indulging it.

Honestly, COBs, what's the point of banning/deleting Paul and Raimando when they show up but letting the effective trolls - a few HQ regulars - play Denethor in every thread?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2023 11:29 AM (KFhLj)

157 creek didn't sound appealing

IKR? Ugliest-sounding language ever.

Posted by: The Cherokees at September 21, 2023 11:29 AM (xTRSc)

158 It wasn't a really big boat. Maybe sat 20 people.

In Hawaii you size boats by the number of rowers!

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 21, 2023 11:30 AM (4PZHB)

159 "Biden DOJ Targeting Elon Musk Is Intimidation, Pure And Simple"

https://shorturl.at/eFKN0
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 11:27 AM (zkgtz)
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What amuses me at least a little bit about headlines like this is that you never saw headlines like this about, say, the Stasi. Everyone knew the Stasi's job. Intimidation and lawbreaking was just expected behavior.

That we still generate headlines like this about the DoJ and its subdivisions like the FBI is amusing, because it means that many people still think the DoJ or the FBI is something different.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:30 AM (t0OGg)

160 *Stan Kenton has entered the Chat*

Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2023 11:30 AM (YcYZY)

161 Sponge, what was the name of the river?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:27 AM (xTRSc)

Don't remember the actual cruise, but it quite possibly could've been on the WAILUA RIVER on the island of Kauai.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:30 AM (Zz0t1)

162 Yahoo!bullshit:

||Project Veritas, the right-wing media group known primarily for its undercover video stings, suspended all operations on Wednesday after months of unsuccessful cost-cutting measures, according to Mediaite.

In a letter to the organization’s few remaining staffers, human resources director Jennifer Kiyak said that it was necessary to put operations on pause in “the interest of preserving the possible future existence of Project Veritas.” She also announced another round of layoffs in the note, calling the move a “Reduction in Force,” Mediate reported.

Sources told the outlet that half a dozen staffers were laid off this week alone, including all its remaining journalists. Just 11 people remain on payroll, one former staffer told Mediate.||

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 21, 2023 11:30 AM (krqg6)

163 151 I would be mad. Millions of never-was critics are going to sit there and laugh because you only reached the peak of your profession ONE TIME?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 21, 2023 11:25 AM (KbCG3)

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As you laugh all the way to the bank, unless you spent and wasted all the money in a bout of euphoric foolishness.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:28 AM (t0OGg)

Ever watch interviews from people like Billy Corgan explaining how the music business works and why most bands make little to no money?

It's very interesting.

Also, most bands break through when they're young. Just like athletes, reaching levels of acclaim when they're too young to handle it.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 21, 2023 11:31 AM (KbCG3)

164 No matter how you get there, if you become a "one hit wonder," at what point do you go from being glad they remember you, to wishing they would forget.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:20 AM (GG4JB)

Loudon Wainwright III so hated his one Billboard hit, "Dead Skunk," that he refused to ever play it in concert unless someone in the audience handed over $500 in cash.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 21, 2023 11:31 AM (AW0uW)

165 NY has 39 red counties and 21 blue counties but somehow that GOP advantage results in supermajorities in the NYS house and senate.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2023 11:24 AM (rc3Z7)

What should be patently obvious to anyone/everyone, but isn't, is that the concept of states is anachronistic and wrong.

Why should millions of people in these solid blue states have their voices silenced, just because the Democrat machine controls their big cities?

It makes no damn sense, you have no representation, and your lives are significantly more affected by blue state governments than they are the nincompoops in DC.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:31 AM (wy5wi)

166 Save your "beat the rush, commit suicide now" doom and despair for someone who's interested.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2023 11:24 AM (KFhLj)

Save your "vote harder", then.

I despair of returning to the same well only to draw up poisoned water every time, while you say "crank harder, the good water is all at the bottom".

Just because your way won't work doesn't mean all is lost. The only despair is in refusing to acknowledge the reality that our champions are not our champions. In fact, that is exactly the mentality that has brought us to this point. "Keep voting for and supporting Red Team, or else Blue Team wins!" It's gaslighting. It's older than any of us here. And it's high time we told the charlatans to get lost. They can be the patsies of their Uniparty perfectly fine without my involvement or support

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2023 11:31 AM (9UlRk)

167 The point stands.

You're crying like a child, and throwing your rattle at me because I'm not indulging it.

Honestly, COBs, what's the point of banning/deleting Paul and Raimando when they show up but letting the effective trolls - a few HQ regulars - play Denethor in every thread?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

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I was just using the comment as a jumping-off point for the fact that the "get out the vote" psy-ops are just that. I didn't really mean for that to be directed at you personally. My apologies.

Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 21, 2023 11:31 AM (+MSSo)

168 Jeepers. Do we have to do this again?

Polls don't mean shit. The results have already been determined. Yes, I'll still vote, but don't be deluded into thinking we can win.

Do your best. Love your family. Enjoy being present in your little world.

Posted by: nurse ratched, sea otter Awareness WEEK starts Sunday! at September 21, 2023 11:31 AM (aRpZy)

169 Is this thread "hot" yet, or simmering??

Posted by: runner at September 21, 2023 11:32 AM (t459v)

170 There's a river in Hawaii big enough for a boat cruise?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:25 AM (xTRSc)

It wasn't a really big boat. Maybe sat 20 people.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:26 AM (Zz0t1)

Was it a Higgins boat?

I'll see myself out.

Posted by: spindrift at September 21, 2023 11:32 AM (EGPRf)

171 BREAKING: Project Veritas suspends all operations effective immediately.

CEO @HannahMGiles and Jen Kiyak of Human Resources cite financial ruin as reason for additional layoffs on 9/20/23 leaving merely a handful of employees left.

All investigations halted as of today.

What investigations? PV *was* O'Keefe and vice-versa.

And isn't Giles the chick that was the bait on some of O'Keefe's stings?

Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2023 11:32 AM (2ocoG)

172 169 Is this thread "hot" yet, or simmering??
Posted by: runner at September 21, 2023 11:32 AM (t459v)

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*considers mentioning Prometheus*

*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*

*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:32 AM (LvTSG)

173
And isn't Giles the chick that was the bait on some of O'Keefe's stings?
Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2023 11:32 AM (2ocoG)

She was the hooker to O'Keefe's pimp in the ACORN sting.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:33 AM (Zz0t1)

174 Honestly, COBs, what's the point of banning/deleting Paul and Raimando when they show up but letting the effective trolls - a few HQ regulars - play Denethor in every thread?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2023 11:29 AM (KFhLj)

Okay, I'll ban everyone who doesn't subscribe to your political philosophy and who doesn't agree with the majority. Because the last thing we want on AoSHQ is a difference of opinion!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 11:33 AM (lQONO)

175 Yeah - I don't see a Biden loss in the cards. Hell, when you talk about failure theater, Ronna Romney McDaniel's candidacy was supported by Trump, which strikes me as very odd.

And Virginia is a clean election state now, which is the only reason Youngkin won, because the potential cheat in No. Va. was constrained by the rules in place. None of that has changed. Now, Trump is not the guy who can flip it in the general, because No. Va. hates him with a passion, and he smartly stayed away when Youngkin ran. But maybe another GOP candidate could.

And polls are meaningless on the presidential level. They will be important at the House level, and the senatorial level where the dems do not have the ability to utilize a blue city cheat scheme. But national presidential polling is worthless because the sentiment of the voters has already been wiped out. So polling will only be important in determining where the cheat is most out of control.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 11:33 AM (GZYu7)

176 172 169 Is this thread "hot" yet, or simmering??
Posted by: runner at September 21, 2023 11:32 AM (t459v)

=======

*considers mentioning Prometheus*

*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*

*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:32 AM (LvTSG)

Is Prometheus what we're calling Boebert these days?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 21, 2023 11:33 AM (KbCG3)

177 ... CEO @HannahMGiles and Jen Kiyak of Human Resources cite financial ruin as reason for additional layoffs on 9/20/23 leaving merely a handful of employees left. ...
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 21, 2023 11:27 AM (krqg6)
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Huh. I mean, this is probably true, in terms of proximal cause. Veritas ran out of money and so is in the process of shutting down.

Distally, though, this is not what happened. The financial ruin is a *consequence* of the root cause, not the cause itself. Veritas' executives decided to destroy the company in order to take out O'Keefe's operation and put him on the back foot. Was this because of Pfizer? Maybe. It seems fairly likely given the timing, but I don't know. What is clear, however, is that Veritas was deliberately destroyed by its board.

So no. "Financial ruin" did not lead to they layoffs and suspension of operations. They did not suddenly and for no reason run out of money. Running out of money was a consequence of the board's decision to destroy the company. The cause of the board's decision is open for debate, but I think that it was nakedly and openly corrupt is not.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:34 AM (t0OGg)

178
Okay, I'll ban everyone who doesn't subscribe to your political philosophy and who doesn't agree with the majority. Because the last thing we want on AoSHQ is a difference of opinion!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 11:33 AM (lQONO)

Or quoting Queensrÿche.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:34 AM (Zz0t1)

179 It's a has been pointed out, a mostly red county map in a state like Colorado results in Democrat supermajorities throughout the state.

Voting, in the main, is largely fortified in most states and locales and has been a joke for a generation or more.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2023 11:12 AM (rc3Z7)
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It's the genius in their system. EVERY major city in EVERY state has been captured by the Dems' political machine. If Denver generates 100,000 excess votes--enough to snag the state as "blue--who's gonna stop them?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2023 11:34 AM (YIVH2)

180 174 Okay, I'll ban everyone who doesn't subscribe to your political philosophy and who doesn't agree with the majority. Because the last thing we want on AoSHQ is a difference of opinion!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 11:33 AM (lQONO)

=======

*lets rip latent Marxist beliefs that have been held in check for years*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:34 AM (LvTSG)

181 Also I'm guessing I'm a bit on the other side of a Denethor unless Denethor was the good looking guy trying to get the king to open his eyes and fight back.

Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 21, 2023 11:34 AM (+MSSo)

182 but it quite possibly could've been on the WAILUA RIVER on the island of Kauai

According to Wikipedia, that is the only river in the Hawaiian Islands that is navigable by any craft larger than kayaks. So that must have been the one.

Posted by: The Cherokees at September 21, 2023 11:34 AM (xTRSc)

183 "Every election since 1880 has been determined by rolling for 40+1d20 damage."

It wasn't necessary to disprove this ten years ago, Bear, but it is now. If you want to point to the outer limit of the lies, and say with confidence, "here, this line and no further" then do tell us all. Because we need the confidence boost.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 21, 2023 11:34 AM (44ww/)

184 (goes to find some Queensryche lyrics)

Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 21, 2023 11:34 AM (+MSSo)

185 I am pretty sure that Zombie Cab Calloway doesn't care about it anymore.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at September 21, 2023 11:34 AM (JkeTM)

186 *does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:32 AM (LvTSG)

Carrots in chili, 9mm vs 45 APC, long vs cross bows.

Cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria!

Posted by: Archer at September 21, 2023 11:35 AM (gmo/4)

187
According to Wikipedia, that is the only river in the Hawaiian Islands that is navigable by any craft larger than kayaks. So that must have been the one.
Posted by: The Cherokees at September 21, 2023 11:34 AM (xTRSc)

That clinches it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:35 AM (Zz0t1)

188 senatorial level where the dems do not have the ability to utilize a blue city cheat scheme.

Still a state wide vote. Blue City Cheat will carry the day for senate candidates. See Fettermonster, every time John James ran for Senate etc

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 11:35 AM (CIS44)

189 Denethor was the Steward that did not want the King to return (and replace him as leader).

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at September 21, 2023 11:36 AM (JkeTM)

190 >> (goes to find some Queensryche lyrics)

'Highway to the Danger Zone!'

Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2023 11:36 AM (YcYZY)

191 *Stan Kenton has entered the Chat*

If you know, you know...

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 21, 2023 11:36 AM (4PZHB)

192 What's this about strippers?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:36 AM (xcxpd)

193 TJM, have seen The Kremlin Letter, yet??

Posted by: runner at September 21, 2023 11:36 AM (t459v)

194 Damn it, strike 2!

I need to get the anti-sock vaxx and boosters.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:36 AM (xTRSc)

195 >>According to Wikipedia, that is the only river in the Hawaiian Islands that is navigable by any craft larger than kayaks. So that must have been the one.

Surely that was BEFORE Global Warmening.

Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2023 11:37 AM (YcYZY)

196 193 TJM, have seen The Kremlin Letter, yet??
Posted by: runner at September 21, 2023 11:36 AM (t459v)

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Today's review, in fact. Link in nic.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:37 AM (LvTSG)

197 The financial ruin is a *consequence* of the root cause, not the cause itself. Veritas' executives decided to destroy the company in order to take out O'Keefe's operation and put him on the back foot. Was this because of Pfizer? Maybe. It seems fairly likely given the timing, but I don't know. What is clear, however, is that Veritas was deliberately destroyed by its board.

Right. And that happening was the first signal most people had that PV was anything other than O'Keefe and a few other guys. Once you even have an HR director the company's ruined.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2023 11:37 AM (2ocoG)

198 And Virginia is a clean election state now, which is the only reason Youngkin won, because the potential cheat in No. Va. was constrained by the rules in place.

I doubt that, but in any case, Youngkin and Miyares have made real progress in cleaning up the voter rolls.

https://tinyurl.com/muz83yy3

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 11:37 AM (I/Qkd)

199 This redhead with more than a hint of underboob disregards any and all polling more than two months out from the start of the primaries, most polling more than three months out from the general election, and much polling altogether:
https://is.gd/mG12sj

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:37 AM (t0OGg)

200 Lauren Boebert or Nancy Grace?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:37 AM (xTRSc)

201 What's this about strippers?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:36 AM (xcxpd)

They're for polls.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)

202 178
Okay, I'll ban everyone who doesn't subscribe to your political philosophy and who doesn't agree with the majority. Because the last thing we want on AoSHQ is a difference of opinion!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 11:33 AM (lQONO)

Or quoting Queensrÿche.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:34 AM (Zz0t1)

It still stings.
I'm glad Ace relented, man

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:38 AM (xcxpd)

203 Loudon Wainwright III so hated his one Billboard hit, "Dead Skunk," that he refused to ever play it in concert unless someone in the audience handed over $500 in cash.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 21, 2023 11:31 AM (AW0uW)

It was probably never a "hit," but I wonder how his daughter feels about being known mostly for this one song:

https://tinyurl.com/2s3zj9kd

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:38 AM (5PP+G)

204 200 Lauren Boebert or Nancy Grace?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:37 AM (xTRSc)

Man, I really hope you just mixed up a name there.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 21, 2023 11:38 AM (KbCG3)

205 So who was the guy trying to get the king to wake from his slumber?

Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 21, 2023 11:38 AM (+MSSo)

206 Ah, ok. I'll be sure to read it.

Posted by: runner at September 21, 2023 11:38 AM (t459v)

207 198 I doubt that, but in any case, Youngkin and Miyares have made real progress in cleaning up the voter rolls.

https://tinyurl.com/muz83yy3
Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 11:37 AM (I/Qkd)

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2022 saw the introduction of same day registration in VA. Any voter roll cleanup will get undone in the days leading up to the election.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:38 AM (LvTSG)

208 Working people are getting absolutely slammed by Biden and Democrats.
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Credit cards are practically charging "loan shark interest rates" after hitting historic highs this year, said Barry Glassman, a certified financial planner and member of CNBC's Advisor Council.

Some payday loans charge 400%, 500% or even more than 600%, for example, he said.

Cardholders who pay their balances in full and on time don't amass interest. But banks do charge interest when consumers carry a balance from month to month. Such accounts had a 22.16% average interest rate in May, also a record high, according to Fed data.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 11:38 AM (yB8It)

209 201 What's this about strippers?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:36 AM (xcxpd)

They're for polls.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)

True....I was just hoping for pics...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:38 AM (xcxpd)

210 Man, John Holmes has been dead decades now, and he's still the standard. Amazing.

Posted by: From about That Time at September 21, 2023 11:39 AM (yrFRg)

211 @200

>>Lauren Boebert or Nancy Grace?

I believe you mean Nancy Mace, at least I hope you do.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2023 11:39 AM (rc3Z7)

212 Same answer. It depends on how the districts are drawn and where they represent. The high-density urban areas get more districts, and the gerrymandering takes care of the rest. For example, when I lived there, my rural (and extremely conservative) county was gerrymandered into Boulder's district. Boom. In terms of effective meaning, our votes vanished like dew in the morn. Sure, we could cast ballots, but there was no point.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:26 AM

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Exactly the same in Illinois.

Posted by: Bigsmith at September 21, 2023 11:39 AM (wrF++)

213 This proves that the weather Joos have a sense of humor...and a long reach.

https://tinyurl.com/ztr7ecr

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 11:39 AM (I/Qkd)

214
It still stings.
I'm glad Ace relented, man
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:38 AM (xcxpd)

As am I.

Almost the worst 7 days of my life.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)

215 205 So who was the guy trying to get the king to wake from his slumber?
Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 21, 2023 11:38 AM (+MSSo)

Are you thinking of Gandalf and his scene with Theoden?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:39 AM (xcxpd)

216 ' who the profound retards are who think that Biden is doing a good job.'

As a puppet, Biden is doing a great job.

Posted by: Communists behind the scenes at September 21, 2023 11:40 AM (2OL6m)

217
True....I was just hoping for pics...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:38 AM (xcxpd)

I did post a link to a previous champion pole dancer video above somewhere. Clothed, tho.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:40 AM (Zz0t1)

218 198 And Virginia is a clean election state now, which is the only reason Youngkin won, because the potential cheat in No. Va. was constrained by the rules in place.

I doubt that, but in any case, Youngkin and Miyares have made real progress in cleaning up the voter rolls.

https://tinyurl.com/muz83yy3
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Virginia also has a chick (D) running for office on Moar Abortion Uber Alles and her resume' as former CIA Agent. No shit. No, she doesn't wear an eyepatch.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 11:40 AM (GiTcZ)

219 Exactly the same in Illinois.
Posted by: Bigsmith
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Yep.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at September 21, 2023 11:40 AM (pw1S1)

220 Rs lost some seat in New Hampshire (apparently it's a US state...)

Posted by: runner at September 21, 2023 11:40 AM (t459v)

221 199 This redhead with more than a hint of underboob disregards any and all polling more than two months out from the start of the primaries, most polling more than three months out from the general election, and much polling altogether:
https://is.gd/mG12sj
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:37 AM (t0OGg)

There we go. Stripper quality.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:40 AM (xcxpd)

222 the only river in the Hawaiian Islands that is navigable by any craft larger than kayaks

DIL used to commute to Hickam from Ewa via kayak, across a body of water known as Battleship Channel. There was a phone on a post; you had to call the harbormaster to make sure you wouldn't impede an aircraft carrier. Office was cubicle in a vast hangar, and the clerestories had bullet holes from That Day. Just the trip in was worth the job.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 21, 2023 11:40 AM (4PZHB)

223 So who was the guy trying to get the king to wake from his slumber?
Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie

I think you mean Gandalf trying to remove Saruman's spell from Theoden.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 21, 2023 11:41 AM (TNFxq)

224 Okay, I'll ban everyone who doesn't subscribe to your political philosophy and who doesn't agree with the majority. Because the last thing we want on AoSHQ is a difference of opinion!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 11:33 AM (lQONO)

Or quoting Queensrÿche.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:34 AM (Zz0t1)

We can still rag on Nickelback, right?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 21, 2023 11:41 AM (AW0uW)

225 This proves that the weather Joos have a sense of humor...and a long reach.

https://tinyurl.com/ztr7ecr
Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 11:39 AM (I/Qkd)

That's damn funny.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:41 AM (Zz0t1)

226 'More than a Hint of Underboob' was Olivia Newton John's best selling LP.

Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2023 11:41 AM (YcYZY)

227 198 And Virginia is a clean election state now, which is the only reason Youngkin won, because the potential cheat in No. Va. was constrained by the rules in place.

I doubt that, but in any case, Youngkin and Miyares have made real progress in cleaning up the voter rolls.

https://tinyurl.com/muz83yy3
Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 11:37 AM (I/Qkd)

And it will all be worthless if Trump is on the ticket - he will lose the state and the Senate seat will also be lost b/c of the wave of NoVA Dems who will show up and go straight party line.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 11:41 AM (exHjb)

228
We can still rag on Nickelback, right?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 21, 2023 11:41 AM (AW0uW)

With TJM's approval.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:41 AM (Zz0t1)

229 Okay, I'll ban everyone who doesn't subscribe to your political philosophy and who doesn't agree with the majority. Because the last thing we want on AoSHQ is a difference of opinion!

Have you not noticed the exodus of nics over the last year or so? The people who are "taking a break"? There isn't all that much diversity of opinion anymore. It's largely "to your pyre!" all the time. Take out the jokes, and you could just let ChatGPT make endless doom comments to every thread.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2023 11:41 AM (KFhLj)

230 PA instituted automatic registration recently. the state is never voting Republican again.

Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 11:42 AM (bWsRe)

231 o who was the guy trying to get the king to wake from his slumber?
Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie

I think you mean Gandalf trying to remove Saruman's spell from Theoden.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at September 21, 2023 11:41 AM (TNFxq)

So It's a LOTR thread now.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 11:42 AM (CIS44)

232
Is this thread "hot" yet, or simmering??
Posted by: runner

It's BOILING! Just like the globe!

Posted by: Some creep at the UN at September 21, 2023 11:42 AM (63Dwl)

233 Almost the worst 7 days of my life.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)

That is the saddest sentence I've read in quite a while.

Posted by: runner at September 21, 2023 11:42 AM (t459v)

234 I did post a link to a previous champion pole dancer video above somewhere. Clothed, tho.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:40 AM (Zz0t1)

Natalia? Bless you....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:42 AM (xcxpd)

235 Such accounts had a 22.16% average interest rate in May, also a record high, according to Fed data.
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This the median. That means half of the pie is paying way more than this.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 11:43 AM (GiTcZ)

236 2022 saw the introduction of same day registration in VA. Any voter roll cleanup will get undone in the days leading up to the election.

The new law allows registration, with limitations, during the 21-day period before an election.

What is a provisional ballot?

Provisional ballots are used by voters who do not appear on the list of registered voters at their polling location. Provisional ballots are not processed by a vote counting machine at the time of voting, but rather are subject to approval by the local electoral board prior to the ballot being counted.

What happens to my provisional ballot after I vote?

The general registrar’s office for your locality will research your ballot to gather evidence about whether you are qualified and eligible to vote. The general registrar’s office will forward your ballot and the information gathered to the electoral board to review and approve or deny your ballot.

https://tinyurl.com/yfu2ute6

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 11:43 AM (I/Qkd)

237
Natalia? Bless you....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:42 AM (xcxpd)

I'm a giver.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:43 AM (Zz0t1)

238 We can still rag on Nickelback, right?

Not giving a shit about Nickelback > ragging on them.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2023 11:43 AM (2ocoG)

239 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2023 11:43 AM (T4tVD)

240 236 Provisional ballots are used by voters who do not appear on the list of registered voters at their polling location. Provisional ballots are not processed by a vote counting machine at the time of voting, but rather are subject to approval by the local electoral board prior to the ballot being counted.

What happens to my provisional ballot after I vote?

The general registrar’s office for your locality will research your ballot to gather evidence about whether you are qualified and eligible to vote. The general registrar’s office will forward your ballot and the information gathered to the electoral board to review and approve or deny your ballot.

https://tinyurl.com/yfu2ute6
Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 11:43 AM (I/Qkd)

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Oh, so the corrupt vote counters in Richmond and Arlington get to decide if its valid or not? Okay. Clean as a whistle.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:44 AM (LvTSG)

241 *Stan Kenton has entered the Chat*

If you know, you know...
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 21, 2023 11:36 AM (4PZHB)

He's no George Kell.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:44 AM (NyUnZ)

242 210 Man, John Holmes has been dead decades now, and he's still the standard. Amazing.
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Hard to measure up to that.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 21, 2023 11:44 AM (krqg6)

243 230 PA instituted automatic registration recently. the state is never voting Republican again.
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You should drive up in the hills/mountains and see what they've been packing in these last 30 years. Its fucking scary.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 11:44 AM (GiTcZ)

244 Yikes. With all the inflation, corruption, perversions, etc., we are only barely winning? And that doesn't factor in the Left's rampant cheating.

We're toast.

Posted by: Eternity Matters at September 21, 2023 11:45 AM (MTm8X)

245 "The one bright point is the absolute truism is that what cannot continue will not continue. The global aristocrats aren't nearly as bright as they think they are. Cunning, yes, bright, no. All will fall apart and they will will eventually suffer also. It's a small thing but it's not nothing." Posted by: I used to have a different nic

The question is whether the parasites kill the host, and only that stops the ever increasing graft. The big money is not from Joe and the Uniparty of grifters, it is the upstream bribery guys that steal the trillions. (as Hunter noter, the Bidens come through for you on your bribes) But that is how the commie sausage is made.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 21, 2023 11:45 AM (Cus5s)

246 244 Yikes. With all the inflation, corruption, perversions, etc., we are only barely winning? And that doesn't factor in the Left's rampant cheating.

We're toast.
Posted by: Eternity Matters at September 21, 2023 11:45 AM (MTm8X)

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You believe polls that have no incentive to accurately predict the election in 14 months?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:45 AM (LvTSG)

247 Polls are for Ayrton Senna.

Posted by: spindrift at September 21, 2023 11:46 AM (EGPRf)

248 I went to a Nickleback concert. Free tix. I wanted to Three Days Grace and Buck Cherry.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2023 11:46 AM (ovV/V)

249 226 'More than a Hint of Underboob' was Olivia Newton John's best selling LP.
Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2023 11:41 AM (YcYZY)

Rightly so

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:46 AM (xcxpd)

250 But that is how the commie sausage is made.
Posted by: illiniwek

I would guess out of dead proles.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 11:46 AM (CIS44)

251 Any ballot that is not done in person on Election Day, by a voter registered at least 30 days prior is fraudulent. until the gop gets serious about this it will never win a National election again.

Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 11:46 AM (bWsRe)

252 This is the literal job description in VA
"Electoral Board Job Description
Summary:
The Electoral Board of each County and City in Virginia is made up of three members who serve
three-year staggered terms. Two members are members of the political party of the most
recently elected governor. The chair and secretary must represent different political parties
unless the position is declined. Although the bipartisan board is appointed by the Circuit Court
based upon local party recommendations, each member must carry out official duties in a
nonpartisan manner. The authority for the administration of many aspects of elections for the
locality remains with the Electoral Board, including oversight of the General Registrar/Director
of Elections, and is responsible to the State Board of Elections for that administration. It
appoints the General Registrar, who handles voter records. Generally, the work of the Electoral
Board should be shared equally by all three members, although the Secretary has additional
responsibilities."

VA will be cleaner than most states in 2024.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 11:46 AM (exHjb)

253 Virginia also has a chick (D) running for office on Moar Abortion Uber Alles and her resume' as former CIA Agent. No shit. No, she doesn't wear an eyepatch.

I don't know who you mean, but Jennifer Wexton in the 10th has health problems and won't run again. Pity Hung Cao isn't running this time. OTOH, he's running against Tim Kaine, and after Youngkin, I'm willing to accept there's a possibility he could win.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 11:46 AM (I/Qkd)

254 See

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2023 11:46 AM (ovV/V)

255 >>The question is whether the parasites kill the host, and only that stops the ever increasing graft. The big money is not from Joe and the Uniparty of grifters, it is the upstream bribery guys that steal the trillions.

The majority of the monies come from our Tax dollars being laundered through DC.

Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2023 11:46 AM (YcYZY)

256 Sources told the outlet that half a dozen staffers were laid off this week alone, including all its remaining journalists. Just 11 people remain on payroll, one former staffer told Mediate.

What the heck were 11 non-journalists even doing at PV? This sounds like a smaller-scale version of the "8,000 people work at Twitter" thing.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2023 11:46 AM (2ocoG)

257 VHD had a pretty interesting take on why today's elite hates its voters: its because we've weighed and measured them and found them wanting.

And the elite will never forgive us, and will perpetually punish us for seeing them as the incompetetent boobs that they are.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at September 21, 2023 11:47 AM (nnp+f)

258 But that is how the commie sausage is made.
Posted by: illiniwek

I would guess out of dead proles.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 11:46 AM (CIS44)

This is about me, isn't it.......

Posted by: Abe Froeman at September 21, 2023 11:47 AM (Zz0t1)

259 Have you not noticed the exodus of nics over the last year or so? The people who are "taking a break"? There isn't all that much diversity of opinion anymore. It's largely "to your pyre!" all the time. Take out the jokes, and you could just let ChatGPT make endless doom comments to every thread.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2023 11:41 AM (KFhLj)

Piss off, then.

You majestically declare that anyone who isn't on board with Vote Harder should commit suicide while Good Guys like you do the hard work of paying for Jim Jordan's hair gel? And you wanna act like the voice of reason?

Fuck off and troll somewhere else.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2023 11:47 AM (9UlRk)

260 And it will all be worthless if Trump is on the ticket - he will lose the state and the Senate seat will also be lost b/c of the wave of NoVA Dems who will show up and go straight party line.

Posted by: Nova Local

I'm inclined to agree, but Trump does seem to be gaining on Biden. That's why I think Biden won't be on the ticket.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 11:47 AM (I/Qkd)

261
You majestically declare that anyone who isn't on board with Vote Harder should commit suicide while Good Guys like you do the hard work of paying for Jim Jordan's hair gel? And you wanna act like the voice of reason?

Fuck off and troll somewhere else.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2023 11:47 AM (9UlRk)

But sleeve rolls!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:48 AM (Zz0t1)

262 242 210 Man, John Holmes has been dead decades now, and he's still the standard. Amazing.
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Hard to measure up to that.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 21, 2023 11:44 AM (krqg6)

I think it's more due to having lots of proof of what he was packing. A lot of guys talk about having a big dick, John's was on display and occasionally partly hidden inside girl parts.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:48 AM (xcxpd)

263 It can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2023 11:48 AM (cjaXC)

264 Let's try to win 2024, and not just decide we've already lost in 2023.

As for fellow Virginians, get ready to vote this year b/c all our state legislative seats are up, and they will set policy for the next 2 years. Get your likeminded friends and family out to vote any time the polls open (since VA is clean, you don't have to wait for election day).

Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 11:48 AM (exHjb)

265 Sitting here, staying out of sight, avoiding DIE training lest I go off and get fired for calling this "training" sexual harrasment.
I'm not boycotting all woke shit just to have to sit there and let some He/She/It lecture me on how horrible I am.
If my plan works I'll have a job tomorrow, if not I'm on the hunt again.

Posted by: Reforger at September 21, 2023 11:48 AM (xIcP4)

266 I like tits for breakfast.

Eggs Benedict tits.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:48 AM (Zz0t1)

267 I saw the ad for the Moar Abortion CIA chick. The thing is that if it is for the US Senate abortion shouldn't even be an issue. She should be humiliated by all the pushback pointing out how stupid she is. But of course she won't be and the LIVs will lockstep support Molech.

Posted by: Iris at September 21, 2023 11:49 AM (NaH5I)

268 Political polling is a commodity. People pay for them and expect certain results. It's like paying someone to write good news stories and spoon-feed them to you every morning.

IOW... it's a racket.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 21, 2023 11:49 AM (Q4IgG)

269 It can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2023 11:48 AM (cjaXC)

Ive been waiting for this declaration for almost 10 minutes!

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 11:49 AM (CIS44)

270 VHD had a pretty interesting take on why today's elite hates its voters: its because we've weighed and measured them and found them wanting.

Especially in the pantal region.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2023 11:49 AM (2ocoG)

271 Is a non-Trump candidate a guaranteed win? No of course not. But a Trump candidate is a guaranteed loss.

Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 11:49 AM (bWsRe)

272
Republicans just had their asses handed to them in New Hampshire.

Posted by: Frank Barone at September 21, 2023 11:49 AM (+oR7L)

273 271 Is a non-Trump candidate a guaranteed win? No of course not. But a Trump candidate is a guaranteed loss.
Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 11:49 AM (bWsRe)

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Based on what?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (LvTSG)

274 But sleeve rolls!!!
Posted by: Sponge
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lol

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (pw1S1)

275 >>Eggs Benedict tits.

I prefer Egg Florentine Tits.

The Spinach makes for a strong finish!

Posted by: Popeye Doyle at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (YcYZY)

276 I believe you mean Nancy Mace, at least I hope you do.

Yes. Lauren Boebert or Nancy Mace?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (xTRSc)

277 254 See
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2023 11:46 AM (ovV/V)

And I heard an Aspirin factory say, 'come and see' and I saw.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (xcxpd)

278 I like tits for breakfast.

Eggs Benedict tits.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:48 AM

It's the Hollandaise, isn't it?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (aQy7p)

279 VA will be cleaner than most states in 2024.

Thanks, I was going to bring that up next.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (I/Qkd)

280 270 VHD had a pretty interesting take on why today's elite hates its voters: its because we've weighed and measured them and found them wanting.

Especially in the pantal region.

it might help if they weren't pantal loons.

Posted by: anachronda at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (v3pYe)

281
I think it's more due to having lots of proof of what he was packing. A lot of guys talk about having a big dick, John's was on display and occasionally partly hidden inside girl parts.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:48 AM (xcxpd)

I have an 8mm film of him. He picks up a chick who's jogging down the street. She goes to his place where things happen. She is staggered by his size and measures it with a taylor's tape. 13"......... Her jaw drops, then the seas part.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (Zz0t1)

282 272
Republicans just had their asses handed to them in New Hampshire.
Posted by: Frank Barone at September 21, 2023 11:49 AM (+oR7L)

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Special elections are not predictive of general election trends.

They never have been. They never will be.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (LvTSG)

283 I don't know much about Burgum, but I do like what he did with that mountain in South Dakota.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:07 AM (GG4JB)

Running lots of ads here (SC)...pretty much the only ones I'm seeing.

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (AwYPR)

284 273 271 Is a non-Trump candidate a guaranteed win? No of course not. But a Trump candidate is a guaranteed loss.
Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 11:49 AM (bWsRe)

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Based on what?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (LvTSG)

His breath. And he doesn't own an electric car.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:51 AM (xcxpd)

285 >>Republicans just had their asses handed to them in New Hampshire.

NH. The same Republicans who line up behind boy Sunnunu.

Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2023 11:51 AM (YcYZY)

286 Lauren Boebert or Nancy Mace?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (xTRSc)

There’s a pr0n parody movie just waiting to be made.

Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 11:51 AM (bWsRe)

287 I believe you mean Nancy Mace, at least I hope you do.

Yes.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (xTRSc)

Good. Because Nancy Grace is f*cking frightening.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:51 AM (Zz0t1)

288 Based on what?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (LvTSG)

Oh I dunno living through the past 7 years.

Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 11:51 AM (bWsRe)

289 260 And it will all be worthless if Trump is on the ticket - he will lose the state and the Senate seat will also be lost b/c of the wave of NoVA Dems who will show up and go straight party line.

Posted by: Nova Local

I'm inclined to agree, but Trump does seem to be gaining on Biden. That's why I think Biden won't be on the ticket.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 11:47 AM (I/Qkd)

It's not whether Biden is on the ticket in VA, it's whether Trump is. Anti-Trump hatred is not rational in NoVa. So, if he's on the ticket, he depresses R turnout (b/c he doesn't sell here either, b/c state Rs (and Ds) like statesman, and he is not one - see why that VA Dem tramp got so publicized and is now in big trouble for the open seat) and he expands D turnout, leading to wide R losses in 2024. Remember, we don't have state seats to go out for to help mitigate where you say "vote for your state and local"...it's all about who is federal for VA in 2024.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 11:52 AM (exHjb)

290 Is a non-Trump candidate a guaranteed win? No of course not. But a Trump candidate is a guaranteed loss.

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Based on what?

--

hahaha, which brings us full circle back to #95:

"If they can be presented as tied, then when "black people turn out in record numbers because of the attack" or "women turn out in record numbers because of the Roe v Wade decision" or some other fake justification can tip the scales. Trump said pussy, Trump candidates, etc."

Posted by: Defenestration Expert Moron Robbie at September 21, 2023 11:52 AM (+MSSo)

291 Fuck off and troll somewhere else.

Yeah, yeah. Another Internet tough guy.

You're also misstating what I wrote. Anyone can go back and read what I did write and see that I did not encourage anyone to kill themselves.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2023 11:52 AM (KFhLj)

292 Let's be honest there is a fair amount of viewpoint homogeneity and "tone" enforcement already in place.

Posted by: Along with thinner skins at September 21, 2023 11:52 AM (lR6tR)

293 I once went to s Sandy Patty concert so I could get laid. Oh to be 17 again...

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 21, 2023 11:52 AM (ZV+pB)

294 288 Based on what?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (LvTSG)

Oh I dunno living through the past 7 years.
Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 11:51 AM (bWsRe)

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So, what does the factor of "fortified" elections in places like AZ, PA, MI, and GA have in your impressions?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:52 AM (LvTSG)

295 What might change things?

WW3 ... we try to defend Taiwan and lose a carrier or two? Or maybe WW3 starts in Europe? ...

Financial collapse of some sort, as interest rates keep rising even if Fed Reserve tries to lower them. (because no one wants to take inflating USD risk without a decent payout).

A new plague is released, this one more deadly?

Actual revolution ... the bloody kind, not just protesters outside officials' homes, but targeted assassinations, bombings.

Massive cyber attacks, along with infrastructure breakdowns (like all those Chinese assets pouring across the border decide to shoot up a bunch of transformers?).

The unkown unknowns ...

Posted by: illiniwek at September 21, 2023 11:52 AM (Cus5s)

296 This is about me, isn't it.......
Posted by: Abe Froeman at September 21, 2023 11:47 AM

*looks down nose*

The Abe Froeman? Sausage King of Chicago?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2023 11:53 AM (aQy7p)

297 292 Let's be honest there is a fair amount of viewpoint homogeneity and "tone" enforcement already in place.
Posted by: Along with thinner skins at September 21, 2023 11:52 AM (lR6tR)

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THERE IS NOT! TAKE THAT BACK!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:53 AM (LvTSG)

298 273 271 Is a non-Trump candidate a guaranteed win? No of course not. But a Trump candidate is a guaranteed loss.
Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 11:49 AM (bWsRe)

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Based on what?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (LvTSG)

Based on VA - a must win clean state - being a certain loss.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 11:53 AM (exHjb)

299 Fuck's aches, bear, you literally just tried to shut someone down, and reduce their opinion that our voting system is broken and unreliable (hardly an outre proposition) to an irrational despair devoid of any hope or alternative options, while suggesting suicide, because... what? They don't have faith in something which you do?

YOU are the one attempting to narrow discourse and discredit and eliminate opposing positions by using emotional manipulation and strawman fallacies.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2023 11:53 AM (9UlRk)

300 Such accounts had a 22.16% average interest rate in May, also a record high, according to Fed data.
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This the median. That means half of the pie is paying way more than this.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 11:43 AM (GiTcZ)
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This applies to all but the richest Americans. It's going to be a huge issue in the election. Trump is smart enough to make the economy his biggest issue, and thereby try to swamp the abortion talk that Democrats will use.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (yB8It)

301 It's the Hollandaise, isn't it?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (aQy7p)
++++
It doesn't hurt!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (t0OGg)

302 277 254 See
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2023 11:46 AM (ovV/V)

And I heard an Aspirin factory say, 'come and see' and I saw.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (xcxpd)

And behold a pale antipyretic. And he that sat upon him was NSAID, and pain and fever relief followed with him.

Posted by: Aspirin, acetaminophen, ibuprofen, naproxen sodium at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (lR6tR)

303
*looks down nose*

The Abe Froeman? Sausage King of Chicago?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2023 11:53 AM (aQy7p)

"May I speak to Abe Froeman please?"

Posted by: Sloan's Dad at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (Zz0t1)

304 298 Based on VA - a must win clean state - being a certain loss.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 11:53 AM (exHjb)

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What makes you assume that VA, which if it is now clean should behave differently than before, will be a certain loss?

If the election apparatus has changed, then how can we compare the results of 2020 to 2024?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (LvTSG)

305 Have you not noticed the exodus of nics over the last year or so? The people who are "taking a break"? There isn't all that much diversity of opinion anymore. It's largely "to your pyre!" all the time.

It's not unlike the first time Trump ran.

You majestically declare that anyone who isn't on board with Vote Harder should commit suicide while Good Guys like you do the hard work of paying for Jim Jordan's hair gel? And you wanna act like the voice of reason?

And vulgarians like you condemn anyone who disagrees as a soft-brained pollyanna, who lack the stones to be brave truth-talkers like you.

Try talking instead of shouting.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (I/Qkd)

306 272
Republicans just had their asses handed to them in New Hampshire.
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All of New England should be one state. Currently, NE holds 12 Senate Seats. These are the easiest Senate Seats to steal and maintain. That would leave NY, NJ and DE with six Senate Seats. DE should be folded into NJ. This is what needs to be fixed.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (GiTcZ)

307 Second, The GOP - like the other side of the Uniparty - has active antipathy for the people. They *hate* the people. If the people want something that is not a fake choice as a part of their false dichotomy, then the people must be put in their place. Better to lose - even *actually* lose, not just a fake Uniparty-style loss - rather than let the people win. They'd rather die - literally die - than do what the people want. We are scum. They don't answer to us.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 21, 2023 11:06 AM (t0OGg)

———-

Well earned hate given the amount of crap they feed us without serious pushback.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (6T6bs)

308 A lot of peeps here vastly underestimate just how much hatred there is for Trump out there. Like yeah the far left hates any Republican. That’s a given. But I’m talking middle of the road types who don’t really align strongly to either side. There is a significant portion of those people who will never under any circumstances even consider voting for Trump. And NeverTrump Republicans. Yes they are still out there. Mock them if you want and rightfully so. But they vote too.

Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (bWsRe)

309
Woo-hoo! Just got a call from my good friend Mick Jagger! Micky says that Keith is a bit under the weather and wants me to fill in for him on the new album! It's gonna' be a GAS-GAS-GAS!

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (X4yCj)

310 At least Sponge had those sturdy Buryat women to comfort him in his Siberian exile.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (xTRSc)

311 I think the importance of voting "harder" is that it does force the dems to get reckless, because they have to cheat so hard to make up the votes. As such, a large distrust of DC is building throughout the country, which is probably the nudge SCOTUS used to remember the 10th Amendment.

As someone noted above, you have to discover just how deep the rot is before you can really cut it out.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (GZYu7)

312 suicide, because... what? They don't have faith in something which you do?

Funny how you don't quote what I said. Because doing so is incompatible with your slander.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2023 11:55 AM (KFhLj)

313 302 277 254 See
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2023 11:46 AM (ovV/V)

And I heard an Aspirin factory say, 'come and see' and I saw.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (xcxpd)

And behold a pale antipyretic. And he that sat upon him was NSAID, and pain and fever relief followed with him.
Posted by: Aspirin, acetaminophen, ibuprofen, naproxen sodium at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (lR6tR)

lol

props

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 11:55 AM (xcxpd)

314 At least Sponge had those sturdy Buryat women to comfort him in his Siberian exile.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (xTRSc)

And woodka. Lots and lots of woodka.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:55 AM (Zz0t1)

315 308 A lot of peeps here vastly underestimate just how much hatred there is for Trump out there. Like yeah the far left hates any Republican. That’s a given. But I’m talking middle of the road types who don’t really align strongly to either side. There is a significant portion of those people who will never under any circumstances even consider voting for Trump. And NeverTrump Republicans. Yes they are still out there. Mock them if you want and rightfully so. But they vote too.
Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (bWsRe)

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And I suspect that these people are equally open to messages about how DeSantis hates the gays and his administration will be all drama because of his GAFFES!!!! (Mitt Romney reference)

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:55 AM (LvTSG)

316 THERE IS NOT! TAKE THAT BACK!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:53 AM (LvTSG)

Don't make me have to bring out Prometheus.

Posted by: So not run in line with the giant rolling object. Run in perpendicular. at September 21, 2023 11:56 AM (lR6tR)

317 289
' Anti-Trump hatred is not rational in NoVa. '

These guys know we consider them a bunch of fags, right?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 21, 2023 11:56 AM (2OL6m)

318 you have to discover just how deep the rot is before you can really cut it out.
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This is a rock song, rite?

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 11:56 AM (GiTcZ)

319 Republicans just had their asses handed to them in New Hampshire.

NH. The same Republicans who line up behind boy Sunnunu.
Posted by: garrett at September 21, 2023 11:51 AM (YcYZY)

Much of NH is just northern MA now.

"Live Free Or Die" hasn't been a working phrase in years.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at September 21, 2023 11:56 AM (AW0uW)

320 Polls are mostly propaganda in my estimation, they are pushing who is paying for them.
Any other election in last 100 years the Democrats would get wiped out, now with mail voting it's a toss up.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2023 11:56 AM (cjaXC)

321 There is a significant portion of those people who will never under any circumstances even consider voting for Trump. And NeverTrump Republicans. Yes they are still out there. Mock them if you want and rightfully so. But they vote too.
Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (bWsRe)

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And I suspect that these people are equally open to messages about how DeSantis hates the gays and his administration will be all drama because of his GAFFES!!!! (Mitt Romney reference)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:55 AM (LvTSG)

100% this.

The media will always be able to sway LIV's to hate or love whoever they choose.

Not much we can do about it.

Remember how Bush was literally Hitler, and Romney killed some guys wife, and McCain was old and insane, etc. etc.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 21, 2023 11:57 AM (mj0Qp)

322 Eggs Benedict tits.
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Traitor!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 21, 2023 11:57 AM (krqg6)

323 Polls are mostly propaganda in my estimation, they are pushing who is paying for them.
Any other election in last 100 years the Democrats would get wiped out, now with mail voting it's a toss up.
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2023 11:56 AM (cjaXC)

Exit polls had Kerry destroying GWB and we all know how that worked out.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:57 AM (Zz0t1)

324 257 VHD had a pretty interesting take on why today's elite hates its voters: its because we've weighed and measured them and found them wanting.

And the elite will never forgive us, and will perpetually punish us for seeing them as the incompetetent boobs that they are.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
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It is just such a thing that leads to a counter coup. The elites did not fight and win an election. Instead they threw a fit and subverted elections to put their junta in.

Historically, a failed aristocracy (or today's so laughably called meritocracy) is one of the shortest stints of misgovernance of the forms of government. That is because they cannot restrain their appetites for sex, power, and money. That ends when the elites cannot themselves agree on who gets the throne.

The usual result is either a disintegration into a real revolution where one cannot determine the winners beforehand, or a tyrant who takes on the elite and disappears enough that the rest crawl to their holes and wait until the tyrant's time is over.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 11:57 AM (Q9+wR)

325 Just getting this in the name field

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Moron Robbie at September 21, 2023 11:58 AM (+MSSo)

326 It's the Hollandaise, isn't it?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (aQy7p)

That comes at the end.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 11:58 AM (lQONO)

327 I don't know much about Burgum, but I do like what he did with that mountain in South Dakota.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:07 AM (GG4JB)

Running lots of ads here (SC)...pretty much the only ones I'm seeing.
Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2023 11:50 AM (AwYPR)

It doesn't bother me that people here have opinions different from my own. No, what bothers me is when jokes I think are obvious seem to go whoosh.

I mean, admittedly I'd expect the George Kell joke to be way too esoteric for damn near everyone, but Burgum? South Dakota? Mountain? Hello? Is this thing on???

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:58 AM (GG4JB)

328
And I suspect that these people are equally open to messages about how DeSantis hates the gays and his administration will be all drama because of his GAFFES!!!! (Mitt Romney reference)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:55 AM (LvTSG)

True. And again this is for all Republicans. But the visceral hatred for Trump is higher than any other Republican.

I know plenty of these people. Republican-ish voters who aren’t go team red no matter what. More like think the Dems are kinda nuts so I’ll vote lesser of two evils type. But not Trump. He’s poison to them. They’ll vote Biden or not at all.

And this is what’s I’m talking about. Vastly underestimate the number of these people.

Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 11:59 AM (bWsRe)

329 Reading polls showing any chance for the GOP in 2024 is like my 13-year-old self looking at Playboy centerfolds thinking "yea, maybe I have a chance . . . ."

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 11:59 AM (iFTx/)

330 304 298 Based on VA - a must win clean state - being a certain loss.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 11:53 AM (exHjb)

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What makes you assume that VA, which if it is now clean should behave differently than before, will be a certain loss?

If the election apparatus has changed, then how can we compare the results of 2020 to 2024?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (LvTSG)

B/c you aren't gaining double digit points from the last loss. Trump lost last time beyond the cheat, and he's gotten no more popular. Some might say he's dug a deeper and deeper hole, instead.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 12:00 PM (exHjb)

331 GAFFES!!!! (Mitt Romney reference)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:55 AM (LvTSG)

Ah yes. The Poland trip.

Our media is an embarrassment.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 12:00 PM (Zz0t1)

332 senatorial level where the dems do not have the ability to utilize a blue city cheat scheme.

Still a state wide vote. Blue City Cheat will carry the day for senate candidates. See Fettermonster, every time John James ran for Senate etc
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Yes, in blue states you are screwed. The funniest (saddest) thing was James being ahead, and the first batch of fraudulent votes that came through dumped something like 100,000 votes, just for Biden. They had forgotten to put Peters name on them. So more votes were created to secure the Senate seat as well.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 12:00 PM (GZYu7)

333 I think the importance of voting "harder" is that it does force the dems to get reckless, because they have to cheat so hard to make up the votes. As such, a large distrust of DC is building throughout the country, which is probably the nudge SCOTUS used to remember the 10th Amendment.

Agree completely. Even if the Dems manage a win this year, the absurdity of the idea that Biden would win an honest election will motivate a tsunami of anger, and demands for serious reform. It should have happened in '20, but I think lots of people couldn't quite believe what happened could happen in America. The combo of '20 and '22, plus '24 would be incontrovertible proof of enemy action. (hat tip to Goldfinger)

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:00 PM (I/Qkd)

334 Any other election in last 100 years the Democrats would get wiped out, now with mail voting it's a toss up.
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So mailman is the chosen form of the destructor?

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 12:00 PM (GiTcZ)

335 And I suspect that these people are equally open to messages about how DeSantis hates the gays and his administration will be all drama because of his GAFFES!!!! (Mitt Romney reference)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:55 AM (LvTSG)
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Unless the monolithic media starts seeing mass layoffs (insert prayer emoji here), since they are now 100% in the bag for fascists and marxists, we will have this problem.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 12:00 PM (yB8It)

336 328 I know plenty of these people. Republican-ish voters who aren’t go team red no matter what. More like think the Dems are kinda nuts so I’ll vote lesser of two evils type. But not Trump. He’s poison to them. They’ll vote Biden or not at all.

And this is what’s I’m talking about. Vastly underestimate the number of these people.
Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 11:59 AM (bWsRe)

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Do they outnumber the people who wouldn't vote at all but think of Trump as their only savior?

If we're talking genuine elections, not ones where Philly, Detroit, Phoenix, Atlanta, and Madison just make up numbers and the state Republicans parties pout impotently about it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:00 PM (LvTSG)

337 Reading polls showing any chance for the GOP in 2024 is like my 13-year-old self looking at Playboy centerfolds thinking "yea, maybe I have a chance . . . ."
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 11:59 AM (iFTx/)

"THANK you God!!!"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 12:01 PM (Zz0t1)

338 DJT had 4 years of Propaganda against him and still got more votes the 2nd time than the first. That is not up for discussion. Those 4 years of Russian Collusion didn't work and you think 3 year of taking over the Government will be worse?

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2023 12:01 PM (cjaXC)

339 The media will always be able to sway LIV's to hate or love whoever they choose.

Not much we can do about it.

Remember how Bush was literally Hitler, and Romney killed some guys wife, and McCain was old and insane, etc. etc.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Harry,
When regimes fail, the LIV suddenly become very knowledgeable and you get actual huge participation in voting. That is because it suddenly matters to them. No one really trusts the media anymore except for a certain dying segment of the population that grew up in far better times and are insulated from the current crisis.

A key sign of regime crisis and usually it either sparks a coup/revolution or the regime gives into the demands to keep their heads attached to necks.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 12:01 PM (Q9+wR)

340 They had forgotten to put Peters name on them. So more votes were created to secure the Senate seat as well.

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Out of curiosity, do you remember their excuse for the sudden turnout?

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Moron Robbie at September 21, 2023 12:01 PM (+MSSo)

341 Trump or Bust.

If the country really wants democrats, it's dead already it just does not know it.

I'm going with stolen elections all around. It makes the most sense.

I really do have a problem giving people too much credit.

Posted by: DOYLE at September 21, 2023 12:01 PM (Z8Yh2)

342 330 B/c you aren't gaining double digit points from the last loss. Trump lost last time beyond the cheat, and he's gotten no more popular. Some might say he's dug a deeper and deeper hole, instead.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 12:00 PM (exHjb)

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I also find it kind of amusing the VA is suddenly considered must win when Trump didn't win it in 2016.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:01 PM (LvTSG)

343 Tying together several threads on this post-Ish Kabibble was my favorite horn player from the Big Band era. He also supplied comic relief and became a very successful real estate agent in Hawaii after I retired my band.

Posted by: Zombie Kay Kyser at September 21, 2023 12:02 PM (83IzV)

344 Eggs Benedict tits.
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Traitor!
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 21, 2023 11:57 AM (krqg6)
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Thank for a little history humor in this nutso thread of despair!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 12:02 PM (yB8It)

345 suicide, because... what? They don't have faith in something which you do?

Funny how you don't quote what I said. Because doing so is incompatible with your slander.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2023 11:55 AM (KFhLj)

Yup. My fault on that. You bring up suicide, which in my anger I conflated with saying "kill yourself". Not the crux of my anger, but you're right. You meant something more like "stop staying let's just kill ourselves because all is lost", didn't you?

My anger is directed at the sentiment that, if you believe voting is illegitimate now, you must believe there are no other options and it's tantamount to giving up completely.

It's directed at the fact that such a sentiment is exactly the mechanism by which the bastards we're stuck with are still... sticking.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2023 12:02 PM (9UlRk)

346 Michigan, statewide, elections are as corrupted as the city of Philly.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 21, 2023 12:02 PM (ga8qR)

347 Eggs Benedict tits.
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Traitor!

They're better than Quisling tits.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 12:02 PM (xTRSc)

348
Do they outnumber the people who wouldn't vote at all but think of Trump as their only savior?

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Yes.

I think the above was a large group in 2016. But that was a one time thing. They’ve gone back to not voting.

Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 12:02 PM (bWsRe)

349 346 Michigan, statewide, elections are as corrupted as the city of Philly.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 21, 2023 12:02 PM (ga8qR)

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We just need a better candidate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:03 PM (LvTSG)

350 This proves that the weather Joos have a sense of humor...and a long reach.

https://tinyurl.com/ztr7ecr
Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 11:39 AM (I/Qkd)

That's damn funny.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 11:41 AM (Zz0t1)
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And circumcised. But, of course!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at September 21, 2023 12:03 PM (5cNfZ)

351 336 328 I know plenty of these people. Republican-ish voters who aren’t go team red no matter what. More like think the Dems are kinda nuts so I’ll vote lesser of two evils type. But not Trump. He’s poison to them. They’ll vote Biden or not at all.

And this is what’s I’m talking about. Vastly underestimate the number of these people.
Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 11:59 AM (bWsRe)

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Do they outnumber the people who wouldn't vote at all but think of Trump as their only savior?

If we're talking genuine elections, not ones where Philly, Detroit, Phoenix, Atlanta, and Madison just make up numbers and the state Republicans parties pout impotently about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:00 PM (LvTSG)

In WA, the GOPe doesn't even pout.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:03 PM (xcxpd)

352
Do they outnumber the people who wouldn't vote at all but think of Trump as their only savior?

If we're talking genuine elections, not ones where Philly, Detroit, Phoenix, Atlanta, and Madison just make up numbers and the state Republicans parties pout impotently about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:00 PM (LvTSG)

In VA, yes. Youngkin's win, and his slate's win, show Team squeamish Red in VA far outnumbers team not gonna vote.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 12:03 PM (exHjb)

353 Thank for a little history humor in this nutso thread of despair!
Posted by: Huck Follywood

It's called the Pit of Despair. *cough, cough*

Posted by: The Albino at September 21, 2023 12:04 PM (TNFxq)

354 And I suspect that these people are equally open to messages about how DeSantis hates the gays and his administration will be all drama because of his GAFFES!!!! (Mitt Romney reference)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 11:55 AM (LvTSG)

I assume anyone who hates Trump also hates me. Not because I agree with everything Trump says and does, very far from it. No, they hate me because they want the Republican Party to go back to being wholly owned by their own oligarchs, and are willing to bury their heads in the sand when it comes to how far that party has gone from even remotely caring what happens to ordinary Americans.

I won't vote for any of those people. You can stack up any number of Republican candidates and tell me they're good on this or bad on that, or better than the other guy.

I don't care.

They don't represent me. They represent their oligarchs, and I'm done with that. For good.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 12:04 PM (dVaoo)

355 They've gone back to not voting? That's fine. As was mentioned, Trump increased his numbers in 2020. Left-leaning non voters is a good thing.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Moron Robbie at September 21, 2023 12:04 PM (+MSSo)

356 348
Do they outnumber the people who wouldn't vote at all but think of Trump as their only savior?

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Yes.

I think the above was a large group in 2016. But that was a one time thing. They’ve gone back to not voting.
Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 12:02 PM (bWsRe)

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Let me just reiterate, that after months of mail in ballot cheating in 2016, the Democrats shut down six states in the middle of the night to ballot box stuff like Tammany Hall.

That's not the action of someone who lost votes (let's not bring out the numbers because redundant).

This analysis that Trump loses more votes is based on this handwaving away of the actual results of 2020 when he actually gained votes...and then Democrats openly cheated and jailed people who pointed it out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:04 PM (LvTSG)

357 had 4 years of Propaganda against him and still got more votes the 2nd time than the first.

And his opponent had 7m move votes. You’re basically happy your team lost the baseball game but had more hits than the previous game.

Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 12:04 PM (bWsRe)

358 I also find it kind of amusing the VA is suddenly considered must win when Trump didn't win it in 2016.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:01 PM (LvTSG)

B/c he can no longer win some of his previous state wins, so he needs to make up for that, and he can't.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 12:04 PM (exHjb)

359
All of New England should be one state. Currently, NE holds 12 Senate Seats. These are the easiest Senate Seats to steal and maintain. That would leave NY, NJ and DE with six Senate Seats. DE should be folded into NJ. This is what needs to be fixed.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM (GiTcZ)

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50k to 100k conservatives moving to Vermont would turn that state red.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 21, 2023 12:04 PM (Tbc2+)

360 Vote registration gives them a address to send a ballot to if the person is long gone from there.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2023 12:04 PM (cjaXC)

361 So is clotted cream just used on scones or is it used to enhance the tea itself? I need clarification on proper English High Tea protocols.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 12:04 PM (AMd6i)

362 Unless the monolithic media starts seeing mass layoffs (insert prayer emoji here), since they are now 100% in the bag for fascists and marxists, we will have this problem.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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They are seeing those. News magazines died first. Now newspaper employment is about gone, radio after Limbaugh is a wasteland, etc. TV is doing the same, especially cable news channels.

All because the woke marketers at companies keep pushing shit that no one wants via adverts. Woke newsters, the same, when no news or worse malinformation is the focus--why watch/listen/read then. Kills the companies, kills the messengers, and there is not really anything the regime can do much to stop it.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 12:04 PM (Q9+wR)

363 342
'I also find it kind of amusing the VA is suddenly considered must win when Trump didn't win it in 2016.'

It sort of is now that PA and MI are super-duper stolen.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 21, 2023 12:05 PM (2OL6m)

364 I also find it kind of amusing the VA is suddenly considered must win when Trump didn't win it in 2016.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:01 PM (LvTSG)
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He won so many other states that now appear prospectively stolen out of reach, so the importance of winning Virginia (which may still be honest) seems pretty obvious.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 12:06 PM (yB8It)

365 358 I also find it kind of amusing the VA is suddenly considered must win when Trump didn't win it in 2016.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:01 PM (LvTSG)

B/c he can no longer win some of his previous state wins, so he needs to make up for that, and he can't.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 12:04 PM (exHjb)

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Why can't he win in PA anymore?

Is it because the elections are cleaner now than before? Is the guy who ran Philly's elections, who is now the PA secretary of state, going to cheat less because DeSantis is the nominee?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:06 PM (LvTSG)

366 50k to 100k conservatives moving to Vermont would turn that state red.
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Have you been to VT? Its a welfare reservation and hang out for Masshole Insane Trust Fund Babies.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 12:06 PM (AMd6i)

367 TRUM TRUMP TRUMP. HOW ABOUT YOU RON DESANTIS PEOPLE SELL YOUR CANDIDATE? TELL US HOW HE IS GOING TO BEAT THE FRAUD? TELL US HOW HE IS GOING TO MOVE THE GOP IN THE DIRECTION OF HIS AGENDA? TELL US HOW HE IS GOING TO PROTECT HIS STAFF/ADMINISTRATION THAT TAKES ON THE LAWLESS DEEP STATE? TELL US WHERE THE PICKS FOR HIS ADMINISTRATION ARE GOING TO COME FROM? YOU GUARNTEE AND HAVE MADE THE ARGUMENT DESANTIS PICKS WILL. BE. BETTER. IT'S AUTOMATIC(never mind he can't pick a campaign staff) TELL US HOW THE GOP WON'T SABOTAGE RON DESANTIS AGENDA LIKE TRUMPS, EXPLAIN WHAT WILL BE DIFFERENT UNDER DESANTIS?

ACE, CBD, ARCHIMEDES, VICTOR TANGO KILO, MAJ HEALEY, BLAGO BY ALL MEANS STEP UP AND SELL YOUR CANDIDATE BECAUSE HE SURE AS HELL CAN'T CAMPAIGN WORTH A SHIT SO YOU DO IT FOR HIM.

Posted by: JROD at September 21, 2023 12:06 PM (IlL6s)

368 Are people taking these two seriously?

Reminds me of the CDC.

Posted by: DOYLE at September 21, 2023 12:06 PM (Z8Yh2)

369 And his opponent had 7m move votes. You’re basically happy your team lost the baseball game but had more hits than the previous game.
Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 12:04 PM (bWsRe)

***

You honestly believe that the Joetard got 81 million votes?

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 21, 2023 12:06 PM (ZV+pB)

370 Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 12:01 PM (Q9+wR)

Well, I hope you're right. I don't think I'm as optimistic, though.

And for me, it's not about voting.

And maybe some of it is just that I'm surrounded by low information types.

But they don't ever think about anything. They just mindlessly parrot whatever social media / tv / the news tells them to think. They don't even realize they're doing it.

And they're not otherwise stupid people. I suppose they look at politics in the same way I look at sports -- i don't really care. But the difference is, I don't pretend to have strong opinions about the Patriots or the Giants, while these people at least pretend to have very strong opinions about everything, and have the audacity to tell me I need to "get educated" on subjects that I am well versed in. And their knowledge comes from a John Oliver segment they saw on YouTube.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 21, 2023 12:06 PM (mj0Qp)

371 364 He won so many other states that now appear prospectively stolen out of reach, so the importance of winning Virginia (which may still be honest) seems pretty obvious.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 12:06 PM (yB8It)

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And why are the other states out of reach?

Because 2020 saw elections get more secure or less?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:07 PM (LvTSG)

372 No one will convince me Sundowner got 82 Million votes, bet he didn't get 62 million individuals votes

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2023 12:07 PM (cjaXC)

373 Why can't he win in PA anymore?

Is it because the elections are cleaner now than before? Is the guy who ran Philly's elections, who is now the PA secretary of state, going to cheat less because DeSantis is the nominee?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:06 PM (LvTSG)

No other R needs to win PA if they win VA - Trump does, b/c he can't win VA.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 12:07 PM (exHjb)

374 No, what bothers me is when jokes I think are obvious seem to go whoosh. --BurtTC

Coming from you, that's practically a punch line in itself.
You've missed two so far this morning.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 21, 2023 12:07 PM (4PZHB)

375 363 342
'I also find it kind of amusing the VA is suddenly considered must win when Trump didn't win it in 2016.'

It sort of is now that PA and MI are super-duper stolen.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 21, 2023 12:05 PM (2OL6m)

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That's the point.

How does any other GOP candidate from DeSantis to Kasich to Christie fight that?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:07 PM (LvTSG)

376 Yes Trump got more votes in 2020. And the Democrat got even more votes in 2020 bs 2016. Everyone running in 2020 for house or Governor or dog catcher who also ran in 2016 got more votes. Turnout was crazy high in 2020 so yeah Trunp got more raw votes. But relatively speaking he got fewer votes.

Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 12:07 PM (bWsRe)

377

Wow. This SG is really light

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at September 21, 2023 12:07 PM (X4yCj)

378 TRUM TRUMP TRUMP. HOW ABOUT YOU RON DESANTIS PEOPLE SELL YOUR CANDIDATE? TELL US HOW HE IS GOING TO BEAT THE FRAUD? TELL US HOW HE IS GOING TO MOVE THE GOP IN THE DIRECTION OF HIS AGENDA? TELL US HOW HE IS GOING TO PROTECT HIS STAFF/ADMINISTRATION THAT TAKES ON THE LAWLESS DEEP STATE? TELL US WHERE THE PICKS FOR HIS ADMINISTRATION ARE GOING TO COME FROM? YOU GUARNTEE AND HAVE MADE THE ARGUMENT DESANTIS PICKS WILL. BE. BETTER. IT'S AUTOMATIC(never mind he can't pick a campaign staff) TELL US HOW THE GOP WON'T SABOTAGE RON DESANTIS AGENDA LIKE TRUMPS, EXPLAIN WHAT WILL BE DIFFERENT UNDER DESANTIS?

ACE, CBD, ARCHIMEDES, VICTOR TANGO KILO, MAJ HEALEY, BLAGO BY ALL MEANS STEP UP AND SELL YOUR CANDIDATE BECAUSE HE SURE AS HELL CAN'T CAMPAIGN WORTH A SHIT SO YOU DO IT FOR HIM.

I suggest you look in to lithium.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:08 PM (I/Qkd)

379 The Ace of Spades opinion poll can spot check who people re talking about.
As of comment 355, Trump 84 hits, DeSantis 11.
Everyone else, who cares.
Trump has an 8:1 lead over his most credible competitor.

This has been another edition of the Ace of Spades opinion poll.
Who you talkin' about Willis?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 21, 2023 12:08 PM (ga8qR)

380 Posted by: JROD at September 21, 2023 12:06 PM (IlL6s)

Worst Ben R. impression ever.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 12:08 PM (xTRSc)

381 Posted by: Sloan's Dad at September 21, 2023 11:54 AM

Now I need to rewatch that.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2023 12:08 PM (aQy7p)

382 I mean, admittedly I'd expect the George Kell joke to be way too esoteric for damn near everyone, but Burgum? South Dakota? Mountain? Hello? Is this thing on???

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 11:58 AM (GG4JB)

I got the joke...I chose not to comment on it....better now?

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2023 12:08 PM (AwYPR)

383 369 And his opponent had 7m move votes. You’re basically happy your team lost the baseball game but had more hits than the previous game.
Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 12:04 PM (bWsRe)

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You keep sidestepping the cheating in places like Detroit, Philly, and Madison.

Tell me, which other candidate will outdo that, and how?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:08 PM (LvTSG)

384 I also find it kind of amusing the VA is suddenly considered must win when Trump didn't win it in 2016.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:01 PM (LvTSG)

It's called math, or more accurately, arithmetic.

Show me on an electoral college map how Trump wins.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 12:08 PM (lQONO)

385 Wow...that seemed uncalled for.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 12:08 PM (Zz0t1)

386 We won't investigate stolen elections so they will continue to get stolen harder and faster.

Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2023 12:09 PM (z3WCn)

387 373 No other R needs to win PA if they win VA - Trump does, b/c he can't win VA.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 12:07 PM (exHjb)

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Without AZ, MI, WI, PA, or GA, what's the path to victory even with VA?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:09 PM (LvTSG)

388 That's the point.

How does any other GOP candidate from DeSantis to Kasich to Christie fight that?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:07 PM (LvTSG)

They win the clean states, get elected, and then fire the top of DOJ.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 12:09 PM (exHjb)

389 Pa just passed motor voter automatic registration

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2023 12:09 PM (cjaXC)

390 All because the woke marketers at companies keep pushing shit that no one wants via adverts. Woke newsters, the same, when no news or worse malinformation is the focus--why watch/listen/read then. Kills the companies, kills the messengers, and there is not really anything the regime can do much to stop it.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 12:04 PM (Q9+wR)
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The sad thing is the core broadcasters and WaPo/NYT (and other major Blue City rags) still manage to hold on. Only Fox News has been taken down, among broadcasters (including cable for discussion sake). None of the core lefty propaganda outlets have died. Even CNN still lives on somehow, now being run by a former NYT executive.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 12:09 PM (yB8It)

391 376 Yes Trump got more votes in 2020. And the Democrat got even more votes in 2020 bs 2016. Everyone running in 2020 for house or Governor or dog catcher who also ran in 2016 got more votes. Turnout was crazy high in 2020 so yeah Trunp got more raw votes. But relatively speaking he got fewer votes.
Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 12:07 PM (bWsRe)

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What about the shut down of ballot counting? How does that factor in your analysis of 2020?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:09 PM (LvTSG)

392 And Virginia is a clean election state now, which is the only reason Youngkin won, because the potential cheat in No. Va. was constrained by the rules in place.

I doubt that, but in any case, Youngkin and Miyares have made real progress in cleaning up the voter rolls.

https://tinyurl.com/muz83yy3

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 11:37 AM (I/Qkd)
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Well doubt away. Ballots needed to be requested prior to the vote. So while mail in ballots were out there, everyone knew how many there were, which stopped the Fairfax county dump of votes - and I think some red districts refused to report their results until some of the big blue districts did.

And if they have done more to clean it up, that is good news. Probably going to flip a few house seats there.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 12:09 PM (GZYu7)

393 384 I also find it kind of amusing the VA is suddenly considered must win when Trump didn't win it in 2016.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:01 PM (LvTSG)

It's called math, or more accurately, arithmetic.

Show me on an electoral college map how Trump wins.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 12:08 PM (lQONO)

Show me how any Republican does better than Trump. Which States does DeSantis or Vivek pick up that Trump wouldn't?

If Trump wins, at least I have a hope at revenge.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:09 PM (xcxpd)

394 387 373 No other R needs to win PA if they win VA - Trump does, b/c he can't win VA.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 12:07 PM (exHjb)

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Without AZ, MI, WI, PA, or GA, what's the path to victory even with VA?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:09 PM (LvTSG)

GA is highly winnable if Kemp is VP...it's in the bag if he is...

Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 12:10 PM (exHjb)

395 384 It's called math, or more accurately, arithmetic.

Show me on an electoral college map how Trump wins.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 12:08 PM (lQONO)

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He doesn't.

No Republican does.

Because the GOPe allowed the Democrats to cement their control in places like PA, AZ, MI, WI, and GA in order to get rid of Trump, and Democrats aren't giving that power back.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:10 PM (LvTSG)

396
Someone hand me that tuner

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at September 21, 2023 12:10 PM (X4yCj)

397 Posted by: JROD at September 21, 2023 12:06 PM (IlL6s)

Explain what will be different in 2024 compared to 2020.

And using all caps is obnoxious.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 12:10 PM (lQONO)

398 Coming from you, that's practically a punch line in itself.
You've missed two so far this morning.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 21, 2023 12:07 PM (4PZHB)

Really? That saddens me more than a Trump v. DeSantis thread.

I admit, I don't read every comment here. Does anybody?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 12:10 PM (dVaoo)

399 50k to 100k conservatives moving to Vermont would turn that state red.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at Se

BUELLER? BUELLER?

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 12:11 PM (CIS44)

400 Ballots needed to be requested prior to the vote. So while mail in ballots were out there, everyone knew how many there were, which stopped the Fairfax county dump of votes - and I think some red districts refused to report their results until some of the big blue districts did.

I forgot about that. I concede the point.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:11 PM (I/Qkd)

401
What about the shut down of ballot counting? How does that factor in your analysis of 2020?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:09 PM (LvTSG)

The cheat was a few thousand votes here and there. It wasn’t millions.

Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 12:11 PM (bWsRe)

402 I mean, admittedly I'd expect the George Kell joke to be way too esoteric for damn near everyone, but Burgum? South Dakota? Mountain?

Obviously, a play on Gutzon Borglum, the guy who carved Mount Rushmore.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 12:11 PM (xTRSc)

403 389 Pa just passed motor voter automatic registration
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So, how many Driver Licenses are you allowed in PA?

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 12:11 PM (AMd6i)

404 We should be able to buy M&Ms in the color of our choice. I would buy a bag of all orange M&Ms if there were such a thing

Posted by: DB - something clever here at September 21, 2023 12:11 PM (geLO8)

405 I suggest you look in to lithium.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:08 PM (I/Qkd)

Nah, it's an overrated Nirvana track

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:11 PM (xcxpd)

406 367 TRUM TRUMP TRUMP.

I think there was a point in here but putting everything in caps just makes it look like you lost your marbles.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 21, 2023 12:11 PM (2OL6m)

407 394 GA is highly winnable if Kemp is VP...it's in the bag if he is...
Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 12:10 PM (exHjb)

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Do we want Kemp to be on the ticket? The guy who probably cheated his way to victory in the first governor's race, cleared out the voter data as Secretary of State, and has been in the Democrats pocket pretty much ever since?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:11 PM (LvTSG)

408 This analysis that Trump loses more votes is based on this handwaving away of the actual results of 2020 when he actually gained votes...and then Democrats openly cheated and jailed people who pointed it out.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Advocates believe what they want to believe whether on the D or R regardless of any empirical evidence. Usually it is because for social reasons to fit in among their peers.

The easiest way to cut to the chase is force people to answer whether or not they think DJT was cheated out of victory by multiple means or not.

Fair to say that by preponderance of the evidence which is sufficient to win in court, that Trump was.

Blago, embarrassed himself by claiming that Biden really did get 81 million votes which makes him delusional NT'er or a Dem troll.

Me, I dunno who would be the best candidate because quite simply it is a year and several months to the elections in Nov. I dunno if Trump will be the nominee but it appears likely due to the Biden junta simply not leaving him alone. Who can fix the mess in DC, absent a Lincoln willing to be elected tyrant, dunno.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 12:12 PM (Q9+wR)

409 404 We should be able to buy M&Ms in the color of our choice. I would buy a bag of all orange M&Ms if there were such a thing
Posted by: DB - something clever here at September 21, 2023 12:11 PM (geLO

I can vote for that

Actually, in Vegas there's an M&M store where you can buy by the color. It's over-priced but it's there.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:12 PM (xcxpd)

410 Show me on an electoral college map how Trump wins.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 12:08 PM (lQONO)
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Oh, Trump loses. My opinion anyway.

But Any Other Republican can win, and maybe even by a landslide. The political tyranny, social chaos and economic destruction of America just about guarantees it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 12:12 PM (yB8It)

411
These feel like 9 gauge Earnie Ball slinky on this thing,,

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at September 21, 2023 12:12 PM (X4yCj)

412 Which States does DeSantis or Vivek pick up that Trump wouldn't?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:09 PM (xcxpd)

DeSantis has an excellent shot at winning GA, and a reasonable shot at winning VA. I doubt any Republican can take WI or AZ, so the election is in doubt anyway.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 12:12 PM (lQONO)

413 I got the joke...I chose not to comment on it....better now?
Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2023 12:08 PM (AwYPR)

No!! I want RESPECT!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 12:12 PM (dVaoo)

414 401
What about the shut down of ballot counting? How does that factor in your analysis of 2020?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:09 PM (LvTSG)

The cheat was a few thousand votes here and there. It wasn’t millions.
Posted by: Montec at September 21, 2023 12:11 PM (bWsRe)

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This assumes the races in swing states were close. Were they? How do we know one way or the other?

PA sent out 250,000 mail in ballots "accidentally" in 2022. They were out there to be cured.

How many of them got counted?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:13 PM (LvTSG)

415 Remember how Bush was literally Hitler, and Romney killed some guys wife, and McCain was old and insane, etc. etc.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

It turned out only the third one was true.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 21, 2023 12:13 PM (44ww/)

416 Wow. This SG is really light

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at September 21, 2023 12:07 PM (X4yCj)

This may be a bannable offense, but I only just heard/watched AC/DC's "Who Made Who" for the first time this week. Pretty good song. I laughed at the video, where all the Angus clones are playing cardboard-cutout SGs.

Posted by: spindrift at September 21, 2023 12:13 PM (EGPRf)

417 It is terribly clever to have votes floating around waiting if needed.

Posted by: Family members won't listen to Moron Robbie at September 21, 2023 12:13 PM (+MSSo)

418 Do we want Kemp to be on the ticket? The guy who probably cheated his way to victory in the first governor's race, cleared out the voter data as Secretary of State, and has been in the Democrats pocket pretty much ever since?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:11 PM (LvTSG)

And very much involved in a "suspicious" death (I tend to refer to it as murder but I guess I'm old school like that)

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 12:14 PM (CIS44)

419 >>Actually, in Vegas there's an M&M store where you can buy by the color. It's over-priced but it's there.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Hah! I knew this was a good idea. Just like my idea for transparent duct tape, which I think 3M stole from me

Posted by: DB - something clever here at September 21, 2023 12:14 PM (geLO8)

420 412 Which States does DeSantis or Vivek pick up that Trump wouldn't?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:09 PM (xcxpd)

DeSantis has an excellent shot at winning GA, and a reasonable shot at winning VA. I doubt any Republican can take WI or AZ, so the election is in doubt anyway.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 12:12 PM (lQONO)

I will agree on GA. I don't see Trump winning there, not with Kemp in power.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:14 PM (xcxpd)

421 Do we want Kemp to be on the ticket? The guy who probably cheated his way to victory in the first governor's race, cleared out the voter data as Secretary of State, and has been in the Democrats pocket pretty much ever since?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Pretty much but you left out how did Kemp become a multimillionaire from starting out as pretty poor until being elected governor. Same thing happened with last GA governor, broke and bankrupt and facing ethics charges in Congress before he quit to run for governor.

GA's GOP machine is corrupt to the core.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 12:14 PM (Q9+wR)

422 No other R needs to win PA if they win VA - Trump does, b/c he can't win VA.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 12:07 PM (exHjb)

I don't have a dog in this primary fight, but explain to me why you think DeSantis (or whomever) won't get the Trump treatment by the media and be equally as unpopular in NoVa?

I can see the headlines now: "Trump was bad, but DeSantis is worse!" and "Trump was just an idiot, DeSantis is actually evil, and some say is the second coming of Hitler!"

They did that with Bush. He was literal hitler when he was president. Then the media said "say what you will about Bush, but he never did anything as bad as Trump-Hitler!"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 21, 2023 12:14 PM (mj0Qp)

423 394
'GA is highly winnable if Kemp is VP...it's in the bag if he is...'

Do you really want that limp dick?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 21, 2023 12:14 PM (2OL6m)

424
Gotta' plug this Marshall in

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at September 21, 2023 12:14 PM (X4yCj)

425 I admit, I don't read every comment here. Does anybody?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 12:10 PM (dVaoo)

Not the real wordy ones.

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2023 12:14 PM (AwYPR)

426 One interesting X Factor about 2024 is who the Democrats run.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 12:14 PM (yB8It)

427 @397 CharlieBrownsDildo-Nothing will be different no matter the candidate. Sell your candidate, YOU explain the Trump supporters what will be different from 2020 to 2024?

Posted by: JROD at September 21, 2023 12:14 PM (IlL6s)

428 What Trump needs to add to his to do list as Prez is to outlaw Cable Bundling. This is how you incentivize Cable Crazy.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 12:15 PM (AMd6i)

429 TELL US HOW THE GOP WON'T SABOTAGE RON DESANTIS AGENDA LIKE TRUMPS, EXPLAIN WHAT WILL BE DIFFERENT UNDER DESANTIS?

ACE, CBD, ARCHIMEDES, VICTOR TANGO KILO, MAJ HEALEY, BLAGO BY ALL MEANS STEP UP AND SELL YOUR CANDIDATE BECAUSE HE SURE AS HELL CAN'T CAMPAIGN WORTH A SHIT SO YOU DO IT FOR HIM.
Posted by: JROD

All those caps! That's hot!

Posted by: Susanna Gibson, Democrat porn star! at September 21, 2023 12:15 PM (vcOmj)

430 Do we want Kemp to be on the ticket?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:11 PM (LvTSG)

Jack Kemp? He played football!

We haven't really had much success with former football players. Especially in Georgia.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 12:15 PM (dVaoo)

431 We’ll never have a civil war again

We don’t have the will

Baaaa

Posted by: Gonzotx at September 21, 2023 12:15 PM (MwHgU)

432
Heh,, I look like Angus Young!

*twang-twang*

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at September 21, 2023 12:15 PM (X4yCj)

433 Someone hand me that tuner
Posted by: Jimmy Carter
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Piano tuner? Tuner fish?

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 21, 2023 12:16 PM (krqg6)

434 423 394
'GA is highly winnable if Kemp is VP...it's in the bag if he is...'

Do you really want that limp dick?
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Yeah, Trump is going to run with another Pence.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 12:16 PM (AMd6i)

435 Who can fix the mess in DC, absent a Lincoln willing to be elected tyrant, dunno.

I'd do it but *only* if I get to be a tyrant.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 21, 2023 12:16 PM (2OL6m)

436 I don't have a dog in this primary fight, but explain to me why you think DeSantis (or whomever) won't get the Trump treatment by the media and be equally as unpopular in NoVa?

We've gone over this dozens of times. The issue isn't whether they will (of course they will), it's will anyone believe them. Hint: they won't. He's not Trump. Trump is sui generis.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:16 PM (I/Qkd)

437 If the assumption is that no Republican can beat any Democrat in 2024 because the system is corrupt beyond repair, then the best course of action may be to cause as much disruption to the corrupt system as possible by voting Trump.

Posted by: davidt at September 21, 2023 12:16 PM (SYTee)

438 'GA is highly winnable if Kemp is VP...it's in the bag if he is...'

Do you really want that limp dick?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 21, 2023 12:14 PM (2OL6m)
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A limp dick? Wasn't he is one of the very few to successfully kick Trumps butt resisting forever Covid lockdowns.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 12:16 PM (yB8It)

439 I admit, I don't read every comment here. Does anybody?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 12:10 PM (dVaoo)

Not the real wordy ones.
Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2023 12:14 PM (AwYPR)

Uh oh.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 12:16 PM (dVaoo)

440 436 We've gone over this dozens of times. The issue isn't whether they will (of course they will), it's will anyone believe them. Hint: they won't. He's not Trump. Trump is sui generis.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:16 PM (I/Qkd)

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I wonder how many of them believed that Mitt gave a woman cancer.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:17 PM (LvTSG)

441 No real idea but bet 75% of Pa residents of age have drivers license, bet voters are way under that probably in %30 .
Now those 75% are registered and 30% will vote but now have a ballot to be mailed to them.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2023 12:17 PM (cjaXC)

442 437 If the assumption is that no Republican can beat any Democrat in 2024 because the system is corrupt beyond repair, then the best course of action may be to cause as much disruption to the corrupt system as possible by voting Trump.
Posted by: davidt at September 21, 2023 12:16 PM (SYTee)

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No.

The best solution is, if you live in one of those states getting stolen out in the open, to get a cadre of mates, say 99,999 of 'em, and show up on election day, armed, to help with the counting in the urban centers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:17 PM (LvTSG)

443 ACE, CBD, ARCHIMEDES, VICTOR TANGO KILO, MAJ HEALEY, BLAGO BY ALL MEANS STEP UP AND SELL YOUR CANDIDATE BECAUSE HE SURE AS HELL CAN'T CAMPAIGN WORTH A SHIT SO YOU DO IT FOR HIM.

Also, I'd like to register a protest. I know CBD is a COB and all, but still, I think I should rate higher in the hierarchy of soft-brained pollyannas. I've earned it.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:18 PM (I/Qkd)

444 I'm waiting for the A.I. IMAGE of Jimmy Carter flipping over tables in the Temple!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 21, 2023 12:18 PM (krqg6)

445 I would love it if Trump could pick Winsome Sears... too bad he can't

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 21, 2023 12:18 PM (ZV+pB)

446 If the assumption is that no Republican can beat any Democrat in 2024 because the system is corrupt beyond repair, then the best course of action may be to cause as much disruption to the corrupt system as possible by voting Trump.
Posted by: davidt at September 21, 2023 12:16 PM (SYTee)

I'm strongly considering voting for RFK for this very reason, but I've been told RFK is bad because he sued Roundup or something.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 12:18 PM (dVaoo)

447 Newsom/Harris2024
200 million votes

Just lie back and embrace the horror
make a friend of horror
horror, and moral terror

Posted by: DB - something clever here at September 21, 2023 12:18 PM (geLO8)

448 Even knowing that I'll vote, I no longer have any faith in national elections anymore. The sense of near-absolute corruption is complete.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 21, 2023 12:18 PM (BdMk6)

449 446 I'm strongly considering voting for RFK for this very reason, but I've been told RFK is bad because he sued Roundup or something.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 12:18 PM (dVaoo)

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He said just this week that he was going to ban fracking because they use too much plastic.

He's a fucking loon.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:18 PM (LvTSG)

450 These feel like 9 gauge Earnie Ball slinky on this thing,,

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at September 21, 2023 12:12 PM (X4yCj)

Strung a couple of mine with Rev. Willie G. 7s...why work so hard?

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2023 12:18 PM (AwYPR)

451 Kemp as Vp. Holy shit.

Posted by: DOYLE at September 21, 2023 12:19 PM (Z8Yh2)

452 We've gone over this dozens of times. The issue isn't whether they will (of course they will), it's will anyone believe them. Hint: they won't. He's not Trump. Trump is sui generis.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:16 PM (I/Qkd)

Oh, I think they will.

They seem to believe it about every R, and every non-selected D in every election in my lifetime.

I don't know why this one would be different, even with your hints.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 21, 2023 12:19 PM (mj0Qp)

453 Posted by: JROD at September 21, 2023 12:14 PM (IlL6s)

You challenged my support of DeSantis. Yet you can't explain why the 2024 election will be different with Trump as the candidate, even though he has never provided any plan to stop the cheat, and in fact supported the RNC chair who was a huge part of the problem.

DeSantis has an outside chance of winning GA, VA, and possibly AZ. Trump has no shot at those states.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 12:19 PM (lQONO)

454 I'm strongly considering voting for RFK for this very reason, but I've been told RFK is bad because he sued Roundup or something.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 12:18 PM (dVaoo)

Ummmm because he wants to put "climate deniers" in prison among other far left positions.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 12:19 PM (CIS44)

455 I wonder how many of them believed that Mitt gave a woman cancer.

I doubt even those on the left believed it. They just gave it lip service because, well, they're whores.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:19 PM (I/Qkd)

456 412 Which States does DeSantis or Vivek pick up that Trump wouldn't?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:09 PM (xcxpd)

DeSantis has an excellent shot at winning GA, and a reasonable shot at winning VA. I doubt any Republican can take WI or AZ, so the election is in doubt anyway.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 12:12 PM (lQONO)
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How? What has changed since 2020 and 2022 that would cause anyone to believe the cheat has been fixed? They'll just keep counting in GA until Biden wins. There will be more water main breaks, secret boxes showing up, outright fake vote tabulations, etc. What is DeSantis' plan for dealing with this?

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 12:19 PM (iFTx/)

457 445 I would love it if Trump could pick Winsome Sears... too bad he can't
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She is slated to become the next Governor of VA.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 12:19 PM (AMd6i)

458 The debt will instantiate the Humongous freeing us all from decision-making.

Posted by: DaveA at September 21, 2023 12:19 PM (FhXTo)

459 I am voting for Republicans-one of which is me

as well as my running mate. I am also voting for the Republican candidates for State Assembly and Senate because Zwicker who's in NJ politics now is just an awful man who thinks if underage children want to "transgender" and their parents disapprove the state should take away their kids. He also think books about sexual techniques belong in the grade school library , otherwise you support "book banning."

So that's what the state Democrats are running on No-Book Banning and "Democrats want to ban birth control". No; they don't; I've talked to them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2023 12:20 PM (RSbhh)

460 did the 7's thing. fun.

Posted by: DOYLE at September 21, 2023 12:20 PM (Z8Yh2)

461 Do we want Kemp to be on the ticket? The guy who probably cheated his way to victory in the first governor's race, cleared out the voter data as Secretary of State, and has been in the Democrats pocket pretty much ever since?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:11 PM (LvTSG)

It's not a question of do we want the person on the bottom of the ticket who doesn't matter ever to win us a state...
It's a question of whether we want the person who does matter at the top of the ticket to be a liberal Dem out to enslave us...or someone who actually will look out for us? I know which way I lean, and if it takes Kemp on the bottom of a DeSantis or Vivek ticket to win 2024, I'm okay with that.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 12:20 PM (exHjb)

462 In other news, it's been a tough week for losing expensive jets, huh?

Posted by: Diogenes at September 21, 2023 12:20 PM (uSHSS)

463 Democrat candidate is up for grabs, maybe who up for appointment.
If they are desperate I think Mooch might be it.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2023 12:20 PM (cjaXC)

464 That boneless pork rectum Mittels Rombley now allies himself with those who accused him of abusing a dog.

What a Quisling.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2023 12:20 PM (UbLDC)

465 456 How? What has changed since 2020 and 2022 that would cause anyone to believe the cheat has been fixed? They'll just keep counting in GA until Biden wins. There will be more water main breaks, secret boxes showing up, outright fake vote tabulations, etc. What is DeSantis' plan for dealing with this?
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 12:19 PM (iFTx/)

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Charming the election workers into not doing it? Same as Trump's plan, I guess.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:20 PM (LvTSG)

466 He said just this week that he was going to ban fracking because they use too much plastic.

He's a fucking loon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:18 PM (LvTSG)

So am I.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 12:20 PM (dVaoo)

467 Meant-"And Republicans want to ban birth control!!."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2023 12:21 PM (RSbhh)

468 461 It's not a question of do we want the person on the bottom of the ticket who doesn't matter ever to win us a state...
It's a question of whether we want the person who does matter at the top of the ticket to be a liberal Dem out to enslave us...or someone who actually will look out for us? I know which way I lean, and if it takes Kemp on the bottom of a DeSantis or Vivek ticket to win 2024, I'm okay with that.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 12:20 PM (exHjb)

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A rigged election to give us a Republican gets us a Republican we don't want.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:21 PM (LvTSG)

469 446 I'm strongly considering voting for RFK for this very reason, but I've been told RFK is bad because he sued Roundup or something.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 12:18 PM (dVaoo)

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He said just this week that he was going to ban fracking because they use too much plastic.

He's a fucking loon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:18 PM (LvTSG)

Well I don't know about fracking and plastic, but I'm fairly comfortable saying RFK is not a loon.

That said, my only real exposure to him was on Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon's respective podcasts.

But 4 hours of listening to a guy have conversations with people who vaguely agree with my world view is more than we have for most people who run for president.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 21, 2023 12:21 PM (mj0Qp)

470 Strung a couple of mine with Rev. Willie G. 7s...why work so hard?
Posted by: BignJames
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I pop those light ones. I be bending those strangs bubba!

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at September 21, 2023 12:21 PM (X4yCj)

471 465 456 How? What has changed since 2020 and 2022 that would cause anyone to believe the cheat has been fixed? They'll just keep counting in GA until Biden wins. There will be more water main breaks, secret boxes showing up, outright fake vote tabulations, etc. What is DeSantis' plan for dealing with this?
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 12:19 PM (iFTx/)

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Charming the election workers into not doing it? Same as Trump's plan, I guess.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:20 PM (LvTSG)
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Yes, same plan. I think neither have any real plan. And both will lose GA. I think anyone who thinks to the contrary is just wishcasting.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 12:21 PM (iFTx/)

472 Charming the election workers into not doing it? Same as Trump's plan, I guess.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:20 PM (LvTSG)

*Tilts head and bats eyelashes*

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 12:22 PM (CIS44)

473 They did that with Bush. He was literal hitler when he was president. Then the media said "say what you will about Bush, but he never did anything as bad as Trump-Hitler!"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Hairy Pair-o-testes, you seem to have been gone a long time!

Well, as bad as Bush - Hitler was, it was pretty obvious that Trump - Hitler was much worse. And such a total fascist too! That's another trick word always used by the Democrats. Fascist.

And Desantis -Hitler (or Duh-santis, as my stupid, so-called Democrat "friends" call him) will be just as bad.
WORSE!

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at September 21, 2023 12:22 PM (vcOmj)

474 meanwhile, Zelensky is in Washington today delivering 10% to the Big Guy.

And picking up another $24 BILLION bipartisan dollars. Fucking unreal.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (yB8It)

475 I am voting for Ross Perot

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (ZV+pB)

476 2020 was for all the marbles.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (17s+e)

477 You vote for RFK Jr to cause division on the other side. Stir them up enough to become sore losers who will sit the election out.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (UbLDC)

478 Not to worry, Miss Lindsey will introduce another bill banning abortion nationwide right before the 2024 election, like he did right before the 2022 election.

That will tank the Republicans in the swing states, like it did in 2022.

Deliberate sabotage.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (2tUFv)

479 I'm strongly considering voting for RFK for this very reason, but I've been told RFK is bad because he sued Roundup or something.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 12:18 PM (dVaoo)

Ummmm because he wants to put "climate deniers" in prison among other far left positions.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 12:19 PM (CIS44)

Well, no he didn't, but that's not the point. The point is, he's as disruptive to this clown show as anybody... except maybe Trump. So that's what it comes down to, anything that blows this thing up, I'm for.

If that means chaos, so be it. If they put a bullet in the guy's head, like they did his dad and uncle, I have more hope this will change things than electing a good safe Gope candidate who is beholden to a slightly different group of oligarchs than the ones in charge now.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (dVaoo)

480 DeSantis has an excellent shot at winning GA, and a reasonable shot at winning VA. I doubt any Republican can take WI or AZ, so the election is in doubt anyway.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 12:12 PM (lQONO)

I will agree on GA. I don't see Trump winning there, not with Kemp in power.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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GA is too late in the process to help DeSantis as a candidate if he loses the earlier ones. Simply put, DeSantis candidacy has all the appearances of Scott Walker's did before he imploded before Iowa--running out of money and fading across the state polls. That is simply because he put GOPesters like Jeff Roe etc. in charge who are out to make a buck for themselves, not win.

The remainder of the GOP field as it stands are also people not really running for the brass ring and everytime the DOJ or various state prosecutors do another stunt, it diminishes what little air there is for other GOP candidates.

I think a late entry right now would have a better chance than the existing competitors to DJT if they can consolidate the not Trump vote.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (Q9+wR)

481 I also find it kind of amusing the VA is suddenly considered must win when Trump didn't win it in 2016.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:01 PM (LvTSG)
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Find a path to win PA or MI and you've got something. But I don't see ANY GOP candidate with a chance there.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (GZYu7)

482 I pop those light ones. I be bending those strangs bubba!

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at September 21, 2023 12:21 PM (X4yCj)

It's said Albert King, the Velvet Bulldozer, could do 2.5 step bends.

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (AwYPR)

483 What is DeSantis' plan for dealing with this?

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 12:19 PM (iFTx/)

His GOTV structure is already more significant than Trump's. And at least he understands what happened, because he fixed lots of issues in FL.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (lQONO)

484 Hairy Pair-o-testes, you seem to have been gone a long time!

Well, as bad as Bush - Hitler was, it was pretty obvious that Trump - Hitler was much worse. And such a total fascist too! That's another trick word always used by the Democrats. Fascist.

And Desantis -Hitler (or Duh-santis, as my stupid, so-called Democrat "friends" call him) will be just as bad.
WORSE!
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at September 21, 2023 12:22 PM (vcOmj)

I pop in and out, but I did take a year or so hiatus from commenting. Still read the blog though.

And yes, agreed -- DeSantis will be the worse Hitler if it looks like he might beat Trump in the primaries.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (mj0Qp)

485 475 I am voting for Ross Perot
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (ZV+pB)

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Imagine an America where the 2 party system was broken at the presidential level in 1992.

The masks would have fallen 25 years earlier.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (LvTSG)

486 447 Newsom/Harris2024
200 million votes

Just lie back and embrace the horror
make a friend of horror
horror, and moral terror
Posted by: DB - something clever here at September 21, 2023 12:18 PM (geLO

See, this is why I have a machete

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:24 PM (xcxpd)

487 The point is, he's as disruptive to this clown show as anybody... except maybe Trump. So that's what it comes down to, anything that blows this thing up, I'm for.
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Me too.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 12:24 PM (AMd6i)

488 That would leave NY, NJ and DE with six Senate Seats. DE should be folded into NJ. This is what needs to be fixed.

Yeah, Senate seats should conform to population.

Posted by: Wyoming at September 21, 2023 12:25 PM (CnLzB)

489 I am voting for Ross Perot
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (ZV+pB)

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Imagine an America where the 2 party system was broken at the presidential level in 1992.

The masks would have fallen 25 years earlier.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (LvTSG)

I would wear a "Ross was right" tshirt.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 12:25 PM (CIS44)

490 Actually, I have a lot more than just 'a' machete....
I have too much stuff I'm never gonna get to use....sigh

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:25 PM (xcxpd)

491 It's said Albert King, the Velvet Bulldozer, could do 2.5 step bends.
Posted by: BignJames
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us21X40OfJ8

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at September 21, 2023 12:25 PM (X4yCj)

492 Zombie Fred Thompson 2024.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 12:25 PM (zZu0s)

493 I think a late entry right now would have a better chance than the existing competitors to DJT if they can consolidate the not Trump vote.
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Exactly!

Posted by: evan mcmuffin at September 21, 2023 12:25 PM (krqg6)

494 A limp dick? Wasn't he is one of the very few to successfully kick Trumps butt resisting forever Covid lockdowns.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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Not really. Noem never locked down in the first place.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 12:26 PM (Q9+wR)

495 How about a Lil Wayne / Kanye 2024 ticket?

I'd definitely vote for them!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 21, 2023 12:26 PM (mj0Qp)

496 I suggest you look in to lithium.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:08 PM (I/Qkd)
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The side effects are a bitch.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 12:26 PM (GZYu7)

497 481 Find a path to win PA or MI and you've got something. But I don't see ANY GOP candidate with a chance there.
Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (GZYu7)

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The path with VA but without PA or MI is essentially down to just GA and VA.

It's a super thin path that pretty much never actually pans out, and that's assuming the massive federal employee population in NOVA will vote for any Republican to the right of Jeb Bush.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:26 PM (LvTSG)

498 That said, my only real exposure to him was on Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon's respective podcasts.

But 4 hours of listening to a guy have conversations with people who vaguely agree with my world view is more than we have for most people who run for president.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 21, 2023 12:21 PM (mj0Qp)

Vivek is doing the same thing, crossing pretty much the same circuit of podcasts.

And those who are willing to believe he's some kind of shill for NWO/Soros can only hold such beliefs by NOT listening to what the guy says during these conversations.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 12:26 PM (dVaoo)

499 Eggs McNuthin, another runny has been

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2023 12:26 PM (UbLDC)

500 483 What is DeSantis' plan for dealing with this?

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 12:19 PM (iFTx/)

His GOTV structure is already more significant than Trump's. And at least he understands what happened, because he fixed lots of issues in FL.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (lQONO)
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If only you were correct. Sadly, I think this is pure wishcasting. It doesn't matter how anyone actually votes. Atlanta can report as many Biden votes as needed to win. It's that simple. Until that is addressed -- and it's been totally ignored, rather than addressed -- no GOP candidate, whoever it is, is gonna win GA.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 12:27 PM (iFTx/)

501 Any of y'all ever read a romance story where you don't really care who gets the girl? Because the girl is an unlikable bitch?

I should just quit reading Cross Game....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:27 PM (xcxpd)

502 488 That would leave NY, NJ and DE with six Senate Seats. DE should be folded into NJ. This is what needs to be fixed.

Yeah, Senate seats should conform to population.
Posted by: Wyoming
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Wyoming should follow the NE model and create 5 or 6 new states that were formally Wyoming. That would give you 10 additional Senators.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 12:27 PM (AMd6i)

503 500 His GOTV structure is already more significant than Trump's. And at least he understands what happened, because he fixed lots of issues in FL.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 12:23 PM (lQONO)

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How does he fix issues in PA as...not governor of PA?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:27 PM (LvTSG)

504 Actually, I have a lot more than just 'a' machete....
I have too much stuff I'm never gonna get to use....sigh
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:25 PM (xcxpd)

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 21, 2023 12:28 PM (uSHSS)

505 Every R candidate for Prez will be worse than Hitler, while also being worse than the R candidate that came before- who, btw, was also worse than Hitler

Posted by: DB - something clever here at September 21, 2023 12:28 PM (geLO8)

506 @483 CharlieBrownsDildo-He cleared the voter rolls in Florida because he knows he can't campaign worth a shit.
Yes, hats off to DeSantis for being introspective enough to do that considering it took Trump to put him over the top to beat a homo crackhead in the previous election cycle.

Posted by: JROD at September 21, 2023 12:28 PM (IlL6s)

507 I think a late entry right now would have a better chance than the existing competitors to DJT if they can consolidate the not Trump vote.
Posted by: whig

Most any "legitimate" candidate that is Not Trump, is likely a GOPe "machine" candidate, and will have the same markings as such, and will not consolidate any voters that are "not Trump".
We are not voting our way out of this. The Curley effect has consolidated Democrat block voting power in big cities ALL OVER and they can manufacture as many votes as they need.
Black voters RARELY turn out 100% (more like 50%, like most demographics), but this can be monkeyed with as much as possible where the Democrats control who counts the votes.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at September 21, 2023 12:28 PM (vcOmj)

508 It's a super thin path that pretty much never actually pans out, and that's assuming the massive federal employee population in NOVA will vote for any Republican to the right of Jeb Bush.

I don't know if they will or won't, but as per Nova Local, I know plenty who simply will not vote for Trump, whomever else is running. You'll hear lots of them say that Biden is a catastrophe and an embarrassment, but in the next breath, "but he's not Trump". I'm not defending them, just being a brave truth-teller.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:28 PM (I/Qkd)

509 Mark Anthony,

Reading a biography of Hillary Clinton?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2023 12:28 PM (UbLDC)

510 The side effects are a bitch.
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Especially if you're an e-bike!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 21, 2023 12:29 PM (krqg6)

511 509 Mark Anthony,

Reading a biography of Hillary Clinton?
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2023 12:28 PM (UbLDC)

Well, she's no Cleopatra.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 12:29 PM (zZu0s)

512 Every R candidate for Prez will be worse than Hitler, while also being worse than the R candidate that came before- who, btw, was also worse than Hitler
Posted by: DB - something clever here at September 21, 2023 12:28 PM (geLO

Seems like after awhile the list of "worse than hitler" would push him into the "kind of an ok of a guy" range.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 12:29 PM (CIS44)

513 >>> 380 Posted by: JROD at September 21, 2023 12:06 PM (IlL6s)

Worst Ben R. impression ever.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 12:08 PM (xTRSc)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE *I* NEVER PUT CARROTS IN MY CHILI.

Posted by: BEN ROTHLESSBERGERER at September 21, 2023 12:29 PM (llON8)

514 Semi local news. Woman headbutted and stomped on by moose west of Boulder. This is the third moose attack this year. No info on severity of injury but she was stomped "several times."

https://tinyurl.com/4eb6dbvd

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at September 21, 2023 12:29 PM (5JPr5)

515 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us21X40OfJ8

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at September 21, 2023 12:25 PM (X4yCj)

Good stuff...a little too busy for me.

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2023 12:30 PM (AwYPR)

516 508 I don't know if they will or won't, but as per Nova Local, I know plenty who simply will not vote for Trump, whomever else is running. You'll hear lots of them say that Biden is a catastrophe and an embarrassment, but in the next breath, "but he's not Trump". I'm not defending them, just being a brave truth-teller.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:28 PM (I/Qkd)

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And they'll believe whatever the media tells them about DeSantis because they probably still believe that Trump drank hooker pee, got us into war in the Middle East, and said that Normandy soldiers were idiots.

They've allowed themselves to be broken, and a "good Republican" is not going to fix that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:30 PM (LvTSG)

517 The shelving won, didn't it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 12:30 PM (Zz0t1)

518 Noem never locked down in the first place.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 12:26 PM (Q9+wR)

Oh yes she did...

..oh wait, are we talking about something other than Corey Lewandowski's peener?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 12:30 PM (4i8P7)

519 514 Semi local news. Woman headbutted and stomped on by moose west of Boulder. This is the third moose attack this year. No info on severity of injury but she was stomped "several times."
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Mooseses don't like women. This is known.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 12:30 PM (AMd6i)

520 512 Every R candidate for Prez will be worse than Hitler, while also being worse than the R candidate that came before- who, btw, was also worse than Hitler
Posted by: DB - something clever here at September 21, 2023 12:28 PM (geLO

Seems like after awhile the list of "worse than hitler" would push him into the "kind of an ok of a guy" range.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 12:29 PM (CIS44)

Theoretically... nah, you'd think there would be a limit on how worse than Hitler you could get. A limit to evil.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 12:31 PM (zZu0s)

521 How about a Lil Wayne / Kanye 2024 ticket?

I'd definitely vote for them!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

I prefer Kanye/Lil Wayne myself.

Splitter!

Posted by: The Front for the liberation of East Palestine, Ohio at September 21, 2023 12:31 PM (vcOmj)

522 494 A limp dick? Wasn't he is one of the very few to successfully kick Trumps butt resisting forever Covid lockdowns.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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Not really. Noem never locked down in the first place.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 12:26 PM (Q9+wR)

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"He only locked down for a while," is a fucking shit defense.

You locked down at all? Fuck you on covid. You sucked.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:31 PM (LvTSG)

523 At first I thought I read "mouse" and I thought "Damn, Mickey's really on a rampage."

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2023 12:31 PM (i9ffA)

524 The shelving won, didn't it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 12:30 PM (Zz0t1)

Wasnt that going down tomorrow?

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 12:31 PM (CIS44)

525 We need commonsense moose control.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 21, 2023 12:31 PM (xTRSc)

526 Moose out front...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2023 12:31 PM (UbLDC)

527 501 Any of y'all ever read a romance story where you don't really care who gets the girl? Because the girl is an unlikable bitch?

I should just quit reading Cross Game....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:27 PM (xcxpd)
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That's pretty much every modern romance story. There's a huge disconnect b/t what women find appealing in romantic heroines and what men find appealing. When watching a romantic comedy, I spend half my time yelling at the lead dude to "RUN" because the girl is so obviously a toxic nutcase. But apparently, the target audience for these movies -- women -- identify with these toxic nutcases. Reason 457 why I'm a committed bachelor . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 12:31 PM (iFTx/)

528 And they'll believe whatever the media tells them about DeSantis because they probably still believe that Trump drank hooker pee, got us into war in the Middle East, and said that Normandy soldiers were idiots.

They've allowed themselves to be broken, and a "good Republican" is not going to fix that.

I know many of them well. Your characterization is inaccurate.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:31 PM (I/Qkd)

529 I have too much stuff I'm never gonna get to use....sigh
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:25 PM (xcxpd)

You say that like it's a bad thing.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 21, 2023 12:28 PM (uSHSS)

I just hope my nieces and nephews appreciate my arsenal some day.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:32 PM (xcxpd)

530 The shelving won, didn't it.
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I've fallen and I can't get up...

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 21, 2023 12:32 PM (krqg6)

531 >>> 519 514 Semi local news. Woman headbutted and stomped on by moose west of Boulder. This is the third moose attack this year. No info on severity of injury but she was stomped "several times."
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Mooseses don't like women. This is known.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 12:30 PM (AMd6i)

We don't like anyone.

Stay the fuck off our lawns.

Posted by: mooses at September 21, 2023 12:32 PM (llON8)

532 Moose are a mite tetchy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 12:32 PM (zZu0s)

533 "Find out where Kanye West was last night."

Posted by: Dave Chappelle at September 21, 2023 12:32 PM (KAi1n)

534 How does he fix issues in PA as...not governor of PA?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:27 PM (LvTSG)

Oh good...another Denethor.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 12:32 PM (lQONO)

535 528 I know many of them well. Your characterization is inaccurate.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:31 PM (I/Qkd)

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Ask them about some anti-Trump stories that have been proven false, like drinking bleach.

If they still believe any of those, they'll be manipulated into thinking the next Republican is Trump by worse.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:32 PM (LvTSG)

536 438
'Wasn't he is one of the very few to successfully kick Trumps butt'

He was definitely successful at letting the D's steal GA in 2020. But where credit is due, Kemp had the right approach to Covid.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 21, 2023 12:32 PM (2OL6m)

537 I don't think I've seen a single mention of Crispy...what's wrong w/you people?

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2023 12:33 PM (AwYPR)

538 I've fallen and I can't get up...
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 21, 2023 12:32 PM (krqg6)

He's contemplating using his flint spear head to saw off his left arm at the elbow.

Good bye 'Stranger'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 12:33 PM (zZu0s)

539 527 501 Any of y'all ever read a romance story where you don't really care who gets the girl? Because the girl is an unlikable bitch?

I should just quit reading Cross Game....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:27 PM (xcxpd)
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That's pretty much every modern romance story. There's a huge disconnect b/t what women find appealing in romantic heroines and what men find appealing. When watching a romantic comedy, I spend half my time yelling at the lead dude to "RUN" because the girl is so obviously a toxic nutcase. But apparently, the target audience for these movies -- women -- identify with these toxic nutcases. Reason 457 why I'm a committed bachelor . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2023 12:31 PM (iFTx/)

You are wise. I sorta wish I was that wise...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:33 PM (xcxpd)

540 534 How does he fix issues in PA as...not governor of PA?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:27 PM (LvTSG)

Oh good...another Denethor.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 12:32 PM (lQONO)

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I'm gonna go out in a blaze of glory!

But seriously...how does any Republican candidate fix something like PA?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:33 PM (LvTSG)

541 Return of the Bull Moose party?

Posted by: Diogenes at September 21, 2023 12:33 PM (uSHSS)

542 His GOTV structure is already more significant than Trump's. And at least he understands what happened, because he fixed lots of issues in FL.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Umm, no sign of this in the primaries because I keep up with shit like that. In fact, he is cutting paid staff and putting all his chips on Iowa last that I saw campaign staffing expenditure reports.

Florida is not the US and the US is not Florida. Trump's approach will be continue to run rallies which did btw did work as GOTV despite being hampered by Covid and the Dems in 2020. Historically unprecedented increased turnout for an incumbent and all the prior examples won reelection despite much smaller increases (GWB in 2004 was last example).

To believe that Biden won by not even campaigning is one of the signs that people do not believe in the Big Cheat in 2020 and attribute all the increase in Biden's vote to hatred for Trump.

It is possible to believe that but it is an unstated foundation for many of the statements that DeSantis (or whoever) is more electable.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 12:33 PM (Q9+wR)

543 Best possible thing you can do is live in a RED STATE.

Posted by: Mr. Creosote at September 21, 2023 12:33 PM (FBf3u)

544 Kemp had the right approach to Covid.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 21, 2023 12:32 PM (2OL6m)

he had the right approach, after awhile of locking down

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 12:33 PM (CIS44)

545 Good bye 'Stranger'.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 12:33 PM (zZu0s)

..it's been nice. Hope you find your paradise.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:33 PM (xcxpd)

546 We don't like anyone.

Stay the fuck off our lawns.
Posted by: mooses

I'm with that guy.

Posted by: Otter 841 at September 21, 2023 12:33 PM (vcOmj)

547 At least nine separatist organisations supporting terror groups have bases in Canada and despite multiple deportation requests, Ottawa has taken no action against those involved in heinous crimes, including the killing of popular Punjabi singer Sidhu Moosewala, officials in New Delhi said on Tuesday.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 21, 2023 12:34 PM (krqg6)

548 534 How does he fix issues in PA as...not governor of PA?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:27 PM (LvTSG)

Oh good...another Denethor.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 12:32 PM (lQONO)

Try to eat a bit less disgustingly!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 12:34 PM (zZu0s)

549 >Theoretically... nah, you'd think there would be a limit on how worse than Hitler you could get. A limit to evil.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop

so then, a singularity of evil

Posted by: DB - Embrace The Horror 2024 at September 21, 2023 12:34 PM (geLO8)

550 DeSantis has an outside chance of winning GA, VA, and possibly AZ. Trump has no shot at those states.
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Which is the same chance I have: 0%.

1) Ron is not going to win the primary.
2) he has no plan--or policy-- that will win over Trump voters, motivate them to vote vs. sit home

I just can't see the math that says "anti-Trump voters gained is greater than Trump-voters lost."
It's just insane to think there's this huge pool of "I'll vote for Trump policies but not Trump " voters. There just isn't. No matter how many 10,000 word articles Con, Inc. writes.
And the polling shows that ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 21, 2023 12:34 PM (ICNGn)

551 Nuke Philly from orbit

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2023 12:34 PM (UbLDC)

552 ..it's been nice. Hope you find your paradise.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:33 PM (xcxpd)

Anime? Cowboy Bee Bop?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 12:34 PM (zZu0s)

553 @453 CharlieBrownsDildo-I said it won't matter if Trump is the candidate, Jesu Christ is the candidate, or Ron DeSantis.....they will not beat the cheat. I did not imply Trump would win in 24 at all.

You CharlieBrownsDildo sell me on Ron DeSantis and answer the questions I posed above in obnoxious caps. Sell me on YOUR candidate.....

Posted by: JROD at September 21, 2023 12:34 PM (IlL6s)

554 That would leave NY, NJ and DE with six Senate Seats. DE should be folded into NJ. This is what needs to be fixed.
Posted by: Puddinhead

GFY

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 21, 2023 12:35 PM (5Al3g)

555 NOOD

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 21, 2023 12:35 PM (CIS44)

556 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 12:35 PM (zZu0s)

557 I saw The Toxic Nutcases open for Poison at the Aud in '88.

Posted by: good show at September 21, 2023 12:36 PM (EGPRf)

558 But seriously...how does any Republican candidate fix something like PA?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:33 PM (LvTSG)

Organize a freikorp branch in PA and many, many other states?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:36 PM (xcxpd)

559 2) he has no plan--or policy-- that will win over Trump voters, motivate them to vote vs. sit home

That's a decision for the Trump voters. Which is more important, that your guy win, or saving the country?

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:36 PM (I/Qkd)

560 552 ..it's been nice. Hope you find your paradise.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:33 PM (xcxpd)

Anime? Cowboy Bee Bop?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2023 12:34 PM (zZu0s)

Cowboy Be Bop is very good, but I was going with lyrics from Supertramp

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:36 PM (xcxpd)

561 Nuke Philly from orbit
Posted by: Anna Puma

Just to be sure!

Posted by: Strategic Corporal Hicks at September 21, 2023 12:36 PM (vcOmj)

562 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 21, 2023 12:36 PM (Zz0t1)

563 You CharlieBrownsDildo sell me on Ron DeSantis and answer the questions I posed above in obnoxious caps. Sell me on YOUR candidate.....

Posted by: JROD at September 21, 2023 12:34 PM (IlL6s)

Don't hold your breath.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2023 12:36 PM (lQONO)

564 558 But seriously...how does any Republican candidate fix something like PA?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:33 PM (LvTSG)

Organize a freikorp branch in PA and many, many other states?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 21, 2023 12:36 PM (xcxpd)

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That may turn off suburban women, though. Can't do it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:36 PM (LvTSG)

565 559 2) he has no plan--or policy-- that will win over Trump voters, motivate them to vote vs. sit home

That's a decision for the Trump voters. Which is more important, that your guy win, or saving the country?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:36 PM (I/Qkd

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Same question back at anti-Trump voters.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:37 PM (LvTSG)

566
Ask them about some anti-Trump stories that have been proven false, like drinking bleach.

If they still believe any of those, they'll be manipulated into thinking the next Republican is Trump by worse.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:32 PM (LvTSG)

Usually, it's more:
"Treated women like garbage all his life"
"Spews vile words a president never should"
"Stands for nothing - changes on a dime with the wind"
"Has lost his mind, too" (usually in relation to Biden now and discussing what he's said lately on Truth Social)
"Way too old"
"Treats his friends worse than his enemies"

Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 12:37 PM (exHjb)

567 In the history of man there has got to be someone worser than Hitler. Cromwell? Robespierre, Rousseau, Genghis Kahn, Tamerlane, Stalin, Lenin, Mao.... the list is long.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 12:37 PM (AMd6i)

568 1) Ron is not going to win the primary.
2) he has no plan--or policy-- that will win over Trump voters, motivate them to vote vs. sit home

I just can't see the math that says "anti-Trump voters gained is greater than Trump-voters lost."
It's just insane to think there's this huge pool of "I'll vote for Trump policies but not Trump " voters. There just isn't. No matter how many 10,000 word articles Con, Inc. writes.
And the polling shows that ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 21, 2023 12:34 PM (ICNGn)

It seems a rather futile effort to try to look so closely at these trees, when the forest is what it is.

I've said before: 1. Either Trump's the nominee, or 2. They kill him beforehand, or C. The R party pulls some shenanigans to get him cancelled.

I'm not predicting, but I think the latter two would tear the country/party apart. If that's what people want, so be it.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2023 12:38 PM (MCbzQ)

569 566 "Way too old"
"Treats his friends worse than his enemies"

Posted by: Nova Local at September 21, 2023 12:37 PM (exHjb)

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So...generalities that are more informed by media narratives rather than tying them specifically to individual events to give them plausible deniability?

Yeah. These people are weak minded fools.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:38 PM (LvTSG)

570 "He only locked down for a while," is a fucking shit defense.

You locked down at all? Fuck you on covid. You sucked.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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People desperate for someone other than Trump will pick up any hammer to use. Personally, I dunno if Trump can win or even be allowed to run. Ditto for DeSantis on winning or whoever the GOP puts up because there is a fundamental disagreement in the GOP as to whether the Big Cheat even occurred and if so, what to do about it in the 14 or so months before Nov.

But, one thing Trump CAN do as a candidate is destroy the GOP as we know it which in the end is more important in 2024 than winning. If winning means putting GOP grifters in office like Kemp, then even if you win, the American people will lose.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2023 12:38 PM (Q9+wR)

571 They did that with Bush. He was literal hitler when he was president. Then the media said "say what you will about Bush, but he never did anything as bad as Trump-Hitler!"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 21, 2023 12:14 PM (mj0Qp)

Lucy will hold the ball down this time, I swears!

Posted by: Inogame at September 21, 2023 12:38 PM (53oGX)

572 Best possible thing you can do is live in a RED STATE.
Posted by: Mr. Creosote

There are a lot of people who would like to but can't for various reasons. I think that paying attention to your city, county, and state elections and getting involved is important. Look at your school board elections and what the candidates are advocating. Join conservative minded groups that actually will take actions locally. Sure the cheating is daunting however, just giving in to it is not the answer.

Posted by: Cheri at September 21, 2023 12:39 PM (oiNtH)

573
Good stuff...a little too busy for me.
Posted by: BignJames
___________________

Yeah,, he's my son-in-law. I tell him he over plays sometimes

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at September 21, 2023 12:41 PM (X4yCj)

574 In the history of man there has got to be someone worser than Hitler. Cromwell? Robespierre, Rousseau, Genghis Kahn, Tamerlane, Stalin, Lenin, Mao.... the list is long.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 21, 2023 12:37 PM (AMd6i)

Pol Pot should get an honorable mention.

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2023 12:42 PM (AwYPR)

575 That's a decision for the Trump voters. Which is more important, that your guy win, or saving the country?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:36 PM (I/Qk
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Same question back at anti-Trump voters.

I don't know if you're suggesting I'm an anti-Trump voter, but if so, I've said many times here that if he's the nom, I'll vote for him.

If you mean the average anti-Trump voter, whomever that might be, I agree with you.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:48 PM (I/Qkd)

576 575 I don't know if you're suggesting I'm an anti-Trump voter, but if so, I've said many times here that if he's the nom, I'll vote for him.

If you mean the average anti-Trump voter, whomever that might be, I agree with you.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2023 12:48 PM (I/Qkd)

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And that's the attitude that needs to be taken with the people you know who think that Trump is icky but Biden isn't doing anything good but they can't vote for Trump because he's icky.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:51 PM (LvTSG)

577 Good analysis, so tell Ace to shut up about Trump. DeSantis is out. Get behind Trump and go all in. There enough professional Republicans like NR and Powerline who will be tepid on Trump (and maybe some will vote for Biden) up to election day, but we don't need the likes of Ace complaining about Trump up to November 2024. Stand together or lose.

Posted by: Lex at September 21, 2023 12:55 PM (fMN7A)

578 From what I saw, based on driver's licenses ... absolutely nothing to do with citizenship.

I don't understand how that is remotely legal.
Posted by: spindrift at September 21, 2023 11:07 AM (EGPRf)

And it's based on a decree by tge Secretary of State, not action by tge legislature . Automatic fail based on the Constitution.

Which Dems don't read.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 21, 2023 01:16 PM (WhP3q)

579 You keep sidestepping the cheating in places like Detroit, Philly, and Madison.

Tell me, which other candidate will outdo that, and how?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:08 PM (LvTSG)
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You've got Madison pegged wrong. A blue enclave where the loony left vote. Kind of like NoVa, only more crazy.

And to your question - no, RDS cannot win MI, PA, AR, or NV.

He has a chance in decreasing likelihood of winning Georgia, Arizona, and Virginia. So it probably doesn't matter anyway.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 01:41 PM (GZYu7)

580 And that's the attitude that needs to be taken with the people you know who think that Trump is icky but Biden isn't doing anything good but they can't vote for Trump because he's icky.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at September 21, 2023 12:51 PM (LvTSG)
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I have the honor of living in a state where Trump will win in a landslide.Trump sounds like every GOPe candidate I've every heard, on wokeness and trannies, on Covid, and now on abortion. After he put the justices on the court to overturn Wade. I'm curious what else he is going to capitulate on. So he will win my state, I can write my own name in, and we can all be happy.

Posted by: Black JEM at September 21, 2023 01:44 PM (GZYu7)

581 02/2020 Trump is guaranteed to win!
03/2020 Covid/Mail in voting
11/2020 It's not the votes that count-it's the ballots...
Mailed in, brought in during the middle of the night, dragged out from under tables, via thumb drives, whateva...

Posted by: Rodent at September 21, 2023 03:40 PM (ofe9M)

582 You know, we all can say Trump has this foible, or Mitch has that problem, or Ronna is incompetent.

And you hope sometimes that the best of Trump will mesh with the best of GOPe and something okay will happen.

We might get more mediocre or worse parts of each.

Life just isn't fair.

Depressing.

Posted by: Harun at September 21, 2023 04:09 PM (c2WeP)

583 CBD, it is past time for you try a drink of reality.

Rona Romney McDaniel is not resposible for the G.O.P. losses in 2018, 2020 or 2022. Were she singularly responsible, then she'd be more powerful than Darth Vader, Sauron and Thanos combined.
It's the goddamn G.O.P. who's resposible for all three! Rona is a face, a presenter and a coffee girl for the Chamber of Commerce, the ones who really run that political party.

FACT - 2018 was DELIBERATELY LOST in the U.S. House by Speaker Paul Ryan and the House Leadership. Trump wouldn't allow them to grift and graft for their mega donor pimps anymore, so they gave it up without a fight.
FACT - 2020 was STOLEN by Democrats and their Soros-Leftist allies with significant aid from Republican election officials, from canvasers, Secretaries of State and Governors.
FACT - 2022 was STOLEN again, using more of the previous rigged election tactics.

Go get some fucking help, CBD. I'm sorry that the TRUTH doesn't progress your clearly insane premise of Rona Romney McDaniel being the SOLE power behind whether we win or lose. But if it fits your NeverTrump view, then I suppose that's only how you know to cope. Crazy man!

Posted by: Tracy at September 21, 2023 05:15 PM (lzAu5)

584 The pollsters that are part of the machine WANT Trump to be the nominee. They honestly think they will defeat him just as they did in 2020. They think he's the one to beat, so they're going to plump him hard. No matter how many stupid things he says or does, they're going to push his numbers as unbeatable in the Republican primary.

They did it in 2016, thinking Cackles would beat him handily. Then she blew off some places and lost. They determined to not allow that in 2020, and they'll repeat in 2024.

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