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New Study: Freud Was All Wet
And Other Psychological GAINZZZ
It has been the central, foundational assumption of psychiatry for 100+ years that the only way to move on from trauma is to continually confront it, to talk about it, to think about it, to "process" it. To continually pick open old wounds and then scratch at the scabs until the bleeding starts again.
What if that was totally false from the start? What if the real way to get past trauma is to... get past it? To just stop thinking about it? To bury the dead, instead of exhuming them for 50 minutes every week? Via John Sexton, that's exactly what a new study suggests: that the suppression of negative thoughts might be psychologically helpful and result in healing. Scientific American reports on a new paper published in Science Advances:Suppressing an Onrush of Toxic Thoughts Might Improve Your Mental Health Counter to the conventional wisdom, suppression of distressing thoughts could be an invaluable addition in treating depression, anxiety and trauma By Ingrid Wickelgren on September 20, 2023The technique consisted of subjects telling researchers what their fears and anxieties were. The researchers would find some triggering words -- "hospital," for example, for those who feared for their health -- and instruct subjects to just stop all thought about that word when they heard it. And shut down all imagining and imagery. And it... worked. People reported feeling less anxious about their anxieties, neuroses, and phobias. I was heartened to find this technique said to be "like cognitive behavioral therapy" or "confrontation therapy," because those are the therapies I'm pretty sure work. As you may or may not know, I suffered with debilitating social anxiety, and then panic disorder, and then even agoraphobia through my early not-quite-29 years. A drug helped me greatly with that -- klonopin -- but what finally just completely ended my social anxiety was when I walked into a martial arts class, knowing nothing about martial arts and not knowing anyone there, and also being old and fat and with the hip flexibility usually seen only in Lego figures. It wasn't the meditation or confidence boost of punching stuff that helped me. It was simply going into a situation that would normally give me a panic attack and just forcing myself do it. After a year of that, not a single twinge of social anxiety again. So I really think that sort of therapy works. Do you have a fear of crossing bridges? Okay, find a pedestrian bridge and walk 50 feet across it, and then 50 feet back. Do that three times a week, until you can walk 100 feet across it, then 100 feet back. Etc. Once you get to the midpoint of the bridge, it's easier to just walk right across the bridge than turning back. Keeping doing that, and you will bit-by-bit deactivate the phobia bomb in your head. But that is actually doing something, not just talking endlessly about why you can't do something. I have a feeling this study is right. Because it seems to me the very last people on the face of the earth endlessly rehashing their fears and insecurities are people strongly predisposed to neurosis and obsession. You want to dismantle the pathways to anxiety and fear that they have built up in their brains, not continually use those highways and burrow those panic-tracks ever deeper like the same cart running over the same dirt path. I have hopes, I have hopes. And I have a not-so-secret Gay Agenda here: I cannot wait for the expert class to be completely discredited and humiliated yet again. Sometimes old wisdom -- "put it out of your mind" -- is in fact good wisdom. Like, for a segue, the old advice that early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy wealthy and wise.
Zulkayda Mamat is no stranger to traumatic memories. Ethnically Uighur, Mamat left China at age 12 after an uprising in the region of East Turkestan, where most of Mamat's extended family still lives. More than one million Uighurs have been arbitrarily detained in "political education" camps and prisons. "I know people in camps. I have witnessed families completely broken down, people in the diaspora, their entire lives changed," says Mamat, who just received her doctorate in cognitive neuroscience from the University of Cambridge. Over the years, Mamat has noticed how the most resilient Uighurs she knows manage to cope with their trauma. Their formula is simple: they push the distressing memories out of their mind. Mamat herself is good at this. "It's almost intuitive to be able to control my thoughts," she says. Clinical psychologists often warn against suppressing thoughts because they believe distressing ideas and images will bubble up later with greater frequency and worsen mental health problems. Psychoanalysis focuses on the contrasting approach of hunting down and exploring the meaning of any thoughts a person might have pushed to the back of their mind. But Mamat now has data to support her intuition that suppression is beneficial. In a September 20 paper in Science Advances, she and her adviser, cognitive neuroscientist Michael Anderson, report that they successfully trained people--many of whom had mental health problems--to suppress their fears and that doing so improved these individuals' mental health. "Suppressing negative thoughts, far from being a hazardous thing to do," Anderson says, "actually seemed to be of great benefit, especially to the people who need it the most--people suffering from depression, anxiety and post-traumatic stress." The work also calls into question whether people with mental health disorders have an inherent inability to suppress intrusive thoughts. "It's probably not a deficit," Mamat says. The vast majority of people in the study, she says, "were surprised to see that this was something they could learn." The technique bears a likeness to behavioral therapies in which people expose themselves to cues or situations that trigger fear and anxiety--heights, dirt or parties, say--until the brain learns to inhibit those fear responses, says Charan Ranganath, a cognitive neuroscientist at the University of California, Davis, who was not involved in the research. But learning to halt the thoughts that arise from those cues is a novel approach. "What's surprising to me is telling people to stop that thought in and of itself is effective," Ranganath says. "That's an idea that could be really useful to bring into therapies." Not everyone agrees that the approach is safe or likely to be successful as a therapeutic tool. But if further research suggests it is, suppression training might either be used alone or in conjunction with, say, cognitive-behavioral or exposure therapy, Anderson suggests. ... Anderson and his colleagues... have generated data spanning two decades that suggest that pushing away negative memories causes those memories to fade and become less distressing. His experiments are meant to mimic a real-world scenario in which people encounter reminders of worrying thoughts and then need to decide whether to stem those thoughts or dwell on them.
A study finds that nightowls -- or "people with the evening chronotype," i.e., their bodily clocks are set to keep them up into the small hours -- are more likely to have other health morbidities.
Yeah well, as we used to say about the Marvel Universe when we still cared: It's allll connected.
Large study of middle-aged nurses found those with an evening chronotype were more likely to engage in an overall unhealthy lifestyle particularly smoking, poor sleep, and physical inactivity, and had a 72 percent higher risk of developing diabetes. Recent research involving over 60,000 middle-aged nurses has discovered that those with an evening chronotype, characterized by feeling more energetic later in the day, are at a heightened risk of diabetes. Additionally, these individuals tend to exhibit unhealthy lifestyle habits such as smoking, insufficient sleep, and physical inactivity. This is when compared to individuals with a morning chronotype. However, the authors indicate that factors like profession, education level, and socioeconomic status of participants could influence these results.
... Chronotype, also known as circadian preference, is a partly genetically determined construct and refers to one's inclination for earlier or later sleeping times. Roughly 8% of the population possesses an evening chronotype. Notably, this has been associated with poor metabolic regulation, disturbances in glycemic control, metabolic disorders, and a higher incidence and prevalence of type 2 diabetes. However, the precise reasons behind the observed connection between an evening chronotype and elevated diabetes risk remain elusive. Scientists from Brigham and Women's Hospital and Harvard Medical School conducted a prospective cohort study of 63,676 nurses aged 45 to 62 years with no history of cancer, cardiovascular disease, or diabetes from 2009 to 2017. The researchers discovered that participants with a "definite evening" chronotype were 54 percent more likely to have an unhealthy lifestyle than participants reporting a "definite morning" chronotype. Persons with evening chronotype also had a 72 percent higher risk of developing diabetes during the follow-up period. According to the authors, this association weakened but persisted even after adjusting for all measured lifestyle and sociodemographic factors.So we can't fix it...? And now, for the inspirational animal vids.
His cousin 😅 pic.twitter.com/MuYR94TsOM
— Ricardo Rodrigues $scbraga (@rforodrigues_14) September 17, 2023
When cats go to the gym..💪💪💪#道頓堀 #道頓堀ダイブ #阪神優勝 pic.twitter.com/6X0AapaIZm
— FUNNY ANIMALS (TQT) (@quoctien126) September 14, 2023
Me, when I am forced to go to the gym 😭#gym #dogs #pets #funny pic.twitter.com/yaXhUIZEjV
— Visual Verve (@VisualVerve) September 19, 2023
GAINZZZ-wise, I'm back to regular exercise after being pretty spotty with it through the hot days of the summer. What about you? What are YO' GAINZZZ?
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 22, 2023 04:41 PM (qPw5n)
Posted by: Kratwurst at September 22, 2023 04:42 PM (ObYK0)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 22, 2023 04:42 PM (qPw5n)
Posted by: Rick T at September 22, 2023 04:42 PM (xeXUW)
Posted by: Mishdog at September 22, 2023 04:42 PM (aoSA0)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 22, 2023 04:41 PM (qPw5n)
2 That was quick
the last post was an update that really should have been part of another post, so it was just a quick one.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 04:43 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 04:43 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 04:43 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 22, 2023 04:44 PM (ABWOd)
so who knows what is about to happen
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 04:45 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 04:43 PM (KRtlO)
garrett better wear something... uncomplicated tonight.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 22, 2023 04:45 PM (ABWOd)
However, earlier this summer I decided to start attending a mens' group at a local church and it turned out to be a very good thing.
We do bring up stuff that's bothering us, but we also talk about how we can put it all behind us because He has already taken care of it...
As someone at the group pointed out this week--we start out as broken when we come to God, but we should not stay that way.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 22, 2023 04:45 PM (YIVH2)
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2023 04:46 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: fd at September 22, 2023 04:46 PM (vFG9F)
*I already knew that though*
I still have some issues there, anger and aggression among the most risable. But avoiding their bullshit group sessions because I had a new job in a new state seemed to actually help me get through the worst of it.
*letting the scab fall off without picking at it leaves a smaller scar*
Posted by: BifBewalski at September 22, 2023 04:46 PM (3CCua)
🔥 G 🔥 A 🔥 I 🔥 N 🔥 Z 🔥 ! 🔥
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 22, 2023 04:46 PM (xG4kz)
I stole the idea from God: Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.(Philippians 4:8, ESV)
Posted by: Eternity Matters at September 22, 2023 04:47 PM (MTm8X)
Posted by: 80's music fan at September 22, 2023 04:47 PM (9f0ty)
I feel trapped. Or used to. I found that my anxiety decreased if I told people I might have to split because of "work." Just having created a possible exit for myself reduced the desire to actually exit. I just wanted to know there was an escape hatch.
A friend of mine is claustrophobic and always needs to see the door or a window from where he's sitting. I guess the same thing!
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 04:47 PM (KRtlO)
segue > segway > sequeway
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 04:48 PM (sGtp+)
It's false only if you don't want compromising information on every patient.
Posted by: The CIA at September 22, 2023 04:48 PM (CaJIi)
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2023 04:48 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: spindrift at September 22, 2023 04:48 PM (EGPRf)
They all need to do the tighten up.
https://tinyurl.com/2fwh9hmb
Posted by: Archie Bell and the Drells at September 22, 2023 04:48 PM (I/Qkd)
I am living this right now. A close relative and I both went through trauma at the hand of the same person growing up. It sucked. In college, I realized this person was never going to want or request forgiveness, and the best thing for me to do was let it be and live my life without thinking of it. The close relative wants to "confront it," but since I was right and the perpetrator won't ever admit wrongdoing, the close relative's life is still disrupted by what happened. Thank God no one sent me to a Freudian therapist, I guess.
Posted by: Catherine at September 22, 2023 04:48 PM (ZSsrh)
Like when you leave us with a well centered post?
Posted by: fd at September 22, 2023 04:48 PM (vFG9F)
garrett better wear something... uncomplicated tonight.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
At least the laces from his Crocs won't get entangled in the power drill
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 22, 2023 04:49 PM (xG4kz)
50th Halloween Haunt at Knott's.
They brought back the hanging after 5 years. Apparently, the show had gotten too offensive.
So, they brought it back and hanged Karens and just blasted SJWs.
Feels like things are changing.
Posted by: moviegique at September 22, 2023 04:49 PM (asXVI)
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2023 04:49 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2023 04:49 PM (DRSnL)
* Cue the Eagles song "Get Over It" *
Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at September 22, 2023 04:50 PM (eUjjr)
Learn something every day!
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 04:50 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: fd at September 22, 2023 04:50 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: fd at September 22, 2023 04:50 PM (vFG9F)
50th Halloween Haunt at Knott's.
Posted by: moviegique at September 22, 2023 04:49 PM (asXVI)
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I love Knott's. I'd go there over Disneyland any day of the week.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2023 04:50 PM (DRSnL)
You can’t face the “trauma” of being so incredibly wrong that even Tom Nichols is laughing his ass off at you? And you’re left crying into the arms of your sugar daddy Kurt Sphincter.
Try to at least fake trying to be man by reading and reporting on this article about DeFatso’s embarrassing loss of clout in Florida: https://tinyurl.com/45euk6h8
Posted by: A friend at September 22, 2023 04:51 PM (G2REX)
Posted by: Maybe I should retrace my steps, check my other pants at September 22, 2023 04:51 PM (lR6tR)
I'm the exact opposite. I have always been better about exercising when it's warm. I can feel the approach of winter in my bones; so of course all I want to do is sleep. I guess it's time to step up the vitamin D.
Posted by: Catherine at September 22, 2023 04:51 PM (ZSsrh)
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Compartmentalization is a wonderful aspect of the human brain.
Ask me how I know ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at September 22, 2023 04:51 PM (eUjjr)
i like the caveat at the end that education, profession and socio economic factors could change the result.
Well, Duh.
So maybe have a cross section of professions? Nursing is a pretty specific niche to get all your info from.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 22, 2023 04:52 PM (t/2Uw)
Do you have any PROJEXXX? Or PLANZZZ?
Nice. We need photos of the fi ished project as a book thread li rare submission, please.
As for projects, Smash is making me a Mahagony stand for my Japanese Arisaka Type 30 Bayonet. $80 with sharpening from Kult of Athena.
https://www.kultofathena.com/
product/arisaka-type-30-bayonet/
Posted by: BifBewalski at September 22, 2023 04:52 PM (3CCua)
I try to avoid commenting on either candidate. For example, I didn't report that your liberal narcissist trump says that a woman *can* become a man.
But I guess when the cult-leader makes new cult doctrine, you just accept it, you don't question it.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 04:52 PM (KRtlO)
And let it begin with me!!
Posted by: Vince Grill at September 22, 2023 04:53 PM (RilAR)
Posted by: Uncle Dufus at September 22, 2023 04:53 PM (Udlax)
I don't know what these so-called researchers were getting at, but "just not thinking about it" does not work.
It never has worked, never will work, and the ONLY thing these researchers MIGHT be demonstrating is that prolonged exposure isn't the best way to deal with trauma.
Which it isn't. And neither is cognitive processing (what some might consider to be closer to traditional psychoanalysis). These are two of the more poopular strategies, because the Psychology Industrial Complex tries to brainwash their students into working in this very narrow structure.
No. Processing trauma is an internal thing that happens any number of ways, when a person allows their minds to reframe and restructure the memories. Pretending their not there isn't going to work. Letting the brain heal itself, can, and does.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 04:53 PM (ElKmi)
Posted by: Beartooth at September 22, 2023 04:54 PM (azYCi)
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace
I like it when you give us a quickie.
Now that that is out of the way...
My new house is still not finished. They have pestered us to get the electric and gas lines in for the interior finish work but those companies won't do anything until the back fill and finish grade is done outside. And no one has been here to do any of that this week. No one. Nothing done at all. My stress levels are in the hyper critical range and headed for thermonuclear meltdown.
I wanna be sedated until this is over.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2023 04:55 PM (Wy1BU)
I don't know what these so-called researchers were getting at, but "just not thinking about it" does not work.
well I don't know if constantly ruminating and perseverating on the same trauma helps. Based on the near-0% cure rate of psychiatrists, it does not seem to work well.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 04:55 PM (KRtlO)
Learn something every day!
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 04:50 PM (KRtlO)
...
You were raised by books?
Also, how did you pronounce those mobile scooter Seg-ways that were all the rage... late 90s?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 22, 2023 04:55 PM (ABWOd)
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This is pretty much why I learned to fly a helicopter in my mid-40s in spite of, or rather because of, my terrifying fear of heights.
Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at September 22, 2023 04:55 PM (eUjjr)
You just gotta do what Louis Armstrong said
"Leave it all behind ya".
Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 22, 2023 04:55 PM (MeG8a)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2023 04:55 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff, In Solidarity with The Struggle to maintain Moron standards a at September 22, 2023 04:55 PM (C+hp5)
Posted by: Eternity Matters at September 22, 2023 04:47 PM (MTm8X)
I've used this verse (paraphrased, of course) for my spontaneous, unscheduled meditation periods.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2023 04:56 PM (BdMk6)
Squatted a personal best 240 the other day.
Not bad for a 175 lb. dude whose legs would be mistake for metal rod prosthetics.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 22, 2023 04:56 PM (KbCG3)
I called that a Segway. I thought it was just a trademarkable alternate spelling of "segueway."
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 04:56 PM (KRtlO)
New hotness: Black lady saying "Ain't nobody got time for dat."
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 22, 2023 04:56 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: Beartooth at September 22, 2023 04:54 PM (azYCi)
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Nice!
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2023 04:56 PM (DRSnL)
I am glad that you joined a group. Today's devotional which I posted in the tech thread is about "beautiful restortation":
https://odb.org/2023/09/22/beautiful-restoration
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2023 04:57 PM (RSbhh)
Maybe in the end it is often just faith that does the trick.
Posted by: Thatch at September 22, 2023 04:57 PM (kSxbf)
What if that was totally false from the start?
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Yeah, but there ain’t no money in one and done therapy.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 22, 2023 04:57 PM (cMXNt)
Go back to Conservative Tree House you fucking nutter simp loser.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 04:57 PM (KRtlO)
Received earlier in a text
SIGN OUR PETITION TO REMOVE TRUMP FROM THE BALLOT IN 2024!!!!!!!!
Me: go fuck your dead gay dads and sit on a avian flu laced rusty pike you motherfucked fascist lefturded fuckpissers of cat shit
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at September 22, 2023 04:57 PM (VTu1l)
Posted by: wth at September 22, 2023 04:57 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 04:58 PM (KRtlO)
my story, and i'm sticking to it, is that there was a spider lurking in my pants one morning that shot my crotch full of flesh-eating bacteria when i put them on. spent three months in the hospital, where the food was terrible. the nutritionist was always on me to eat something.
still have to think of a story for my dueling scar, which starts a bit under my navel, goes down and around, and ends near my anus.
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 04:59 PM (sGtp+)
To bury the dead, instead of exhuming them for 50 minutes every week?
So the real man behavioral process has been demonstrated as correct. I always thought this was how to proceed. I'm vindicated.
Posted by: Archer, the final season at September 22, 2023 04:59 PM (gmo/4)
You can’t face the “trauma” of being so incredibly wrong that even Tom Nichols is laughing his ass off at you? And you’re left crying into the arms of your sugar daddy Kurt Sphincter.
Try to at least fake trying to be man by reading and reporting on this article about DeFatso’s embarrassing loss of clout in Florida: https://tinyurl.com/45euk6h8
Posted by: A friend at September 22, 2023 04:51 PM (G2REX)
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I swear this a DeSantis campaign worker just trying to get an argument started.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 22, 2023 04:59 PM (cMXNt)
Posted by: wth at September 22, 2023 04:57 PM (v0R5T)
And Blackjack! Don't forget blackjack!
Posted by: Archer, the final season at September 22, 2023 05:00 PM (gmo/4)
Get off my lawn
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at September 22, 2023 05:00 PM (VTu1l)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 22, 2023 05:00 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 04:59 PM (sGtp+)
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That sounds like Fournier's gangrene.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2023 05:00 PM (DRSnL)
Went to the Supe this AM and WHAT da Farq happened to the price of ketchup ?
Did I miss a meeting ?
Its KETCHUP !
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2023 05:00 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 22, 2023 05:00 PM (t/2Uw)
So the counseling path involved not only recognizing
and describing trauma but also moving on from it.
Of course this was Christian counseling. Thank God I live in a Red State that still allows that.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at September 22, 2023 05:00 PM (GD2xa)
Maybe in the end it is often just faith that does the trick.
Posted by: Thatch at September 22, 2023 04:57 PM (kSxbf)
That and someone who just shuts the fuck up and listens.
And does not try to 'fix' you.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 22, 2023 05:00 PM (ABWOd)
Now I'm completely confirmed on the morning. So I guess you can change.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 05:00 PM (omVj0)
Depends.
"Early Birds" hanging around the Git 'em and Hit 'Em #3 at 2 AM have lower life expectancies.
Posted by: recovering Miklos at September 22, 2023 05:00 PM (tbtUD)
Posted by: Proverbs 4:23 at September 22, 2023 05:00 PM (51uCC)
I re-upped for intermittent fasting this week. Cracked off seven days in a row with breaks between eating ranging from 14 up to 19 hours. Taking a pause today and then resuming tomorrow.
I was going to go camping this weekend with the scouts, but the promised storm that will begin tonight has gotten stronger and the commitment to go on the part of the youths dwindled away, so we canceled.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 22, 2023 05:01 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2023 05:01 PM (xTRSc)
This is pretty much why I learned to fly a helicopter in my mid-40s in spite of, or rather because of, my terrifying fear of heights.
Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at September 22, 2023 04:55 PM (eUjjr)
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That's really something and I commend you. I am ridiculously terrified of heights and deliberate exposure over and over again has done nothing to calm my fears.
Posted by: washrivergal at September 22, 2023 05:01 PM (V202s)
New hotness: Black lady saying "Ain't nobody got time for dat."
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 22, 2023 04:56 PM (lf83v)
... and also, "Get over youself."
Posted by: m at September 22, 2023 05:01 PM (30MvH)
Posted by: Beartooth at September 22, 2023 04:54 PM (azYCi)
Very nicely done - not easy to do, if you were a 36" and got down to 34" or even 33" waist - that's a 20 lbs reduction right there - clap emoji.
Posted by: Boswell at September 22, 2023 05:01 PM (K+UlC)
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 22, 2023 05:01 PM (rSTkp)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus maneo at September 22, 2023 05:01 PM (aCGgG)
very cool.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 05:01 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2023 05:01 PM (JTwsP)
Posted by: Uncle Dufus at September 22, 2023 04:53 PM (Udlax)
Pharmaceutical anti-depressants have been a curse to mankind.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2023 05:02 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Catherine at September 22, 2023 04:48 PM (ZSsrh)
For what it's worth, Freud gets more of a bad rap for these things than he deserves. Many of the later "schools" of psychotherapy are far more influential today than Freud's methods and perspectives.
And he managed to stumble onto a significant part of MOST psychological dysfunction: Childhood.
However, what he discovered was too controversial for his colleagues, and he backed off. Had he kept going in the direction he was, he might have spared the world a century of "bad" psychotherapy.
However, however, that's a bit of a misnomer too, because in reality, "good" psychotherapy is mostly when the therapist gets out of the way and lets the person figure it out for themselves, however they will. Which gets joked about a lot, but is really true. You have the answers already, you just need to get out of your own way and find them.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:02 PM (DeXqY)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2023 05:02 PM (RSbhh)
"Suck it up buttercup." - Shit I said.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2023 05:02 PM (EISkR)
Posted by: wth
Definitely worth considering...
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 22, 2023 05:03 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 22, 2023 05:03 PM (Bd6X8)
Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 22, 2023 05:03 PM (MeG8a)
Me: I haven’t thought about my deadbeat dad in 30 years
Her: that must mean you still have some unresolved feelings about him abandoning you
Me: uh, no it means I haven’t thought about my deadbeat dad in 30 years
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at September 22, 2023 05:03 PM (VTu1l)
Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 22, 2023 05:04 PM (MeG8a)
Will there be live blogging for this event? Will we be able to see our comments?
Posted by: AK at work at September 22, 2023 05:04 PM (o+IHV)
very cool.
it's cool because there's a big fan to keep you cool while you're flying.
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 05:04 PM (sGtp+)
I stopped reading when I saw "Scientific American."
It used to be a reasonably balanced source of current science information. Now it's a woke dumpster fire.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 22, 2023 05:04 PM (guGkK)
Posted by: m at September 22, 2023 05:04 PM (30MvH)
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 22, 2023 05:04 PM (rSTkp)
the interactive element for you will be waiting to see whether I actually post on Monday, or if I am dead
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 05:05 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2023 05:05 PM (xTRSc)
.......
Are Lucius Balbus and Sulpicus Rufus coming over for dinner?
Posted by: wth at September 22, 2023 05:05 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 04:55 PM (KRtlO)
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Like most teachers and professors now, psychiatrists actually have a negative-% cure rate -- causing more harm than good.
Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at September 22, 2023 05:05 PM (eUjjr)
I found a hat today that had gone missing for several months.
It was hanging right where I had left it ... imagine that.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 22, 2023 05:05 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2023 05:02 PM (BdMk6)
Yeah I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there. They've helped a great many people, myself included, who would have taken the 230 grains of cure without it.
Posted by: Tom Cruise has entered the chat? at September 22, 2023 05:05 PM (lR6tR)
Went to the Supe this AM and WHAT da Farq happened to the price of ketchup ?
Did I miss a meeting ?
Its KETCHUP !
sounds more like a heinz
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 05:05 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Invictus maneo at September 22, 2023 05:01 PM (aCGgG)
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Yet, they completely control the government through the DSM.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 22, 2023 05:06 PM (cMXNt)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2023 05:05 PM (xTRSc)
Something better than what you started out with.
Posted by: m at September 22, 2023 05:06 PM (30MvH)
https://www.youtube.com /watch?v=jvujypVVBAY
Posted by: Rick T at September 22, 2023 04:42 PM (xeXUW)
"He only charged FIVE DOLLARS! How are we supposed to become millionaires doing that?!" -- therapists
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2023 05:06 PM (llON8)
Recently we had a "dry" spell whee the outside feel-like temp before dawn was at or below 80 . . . and I discovered I could run my trotting percentage up to 40 and a bit more. It may be somewhat drier again this weekend. I'll see if I can approach the 50% level the next few mornings.
When I finally flee this pesthole for someplace drier, or with four seasons, my gosh, it'll be like getting reborn.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 05:06 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 22, 2023 05:03 PM (MeG8a)
Wow! that is serious weight reduction right there! You need about 10lbs per inch off the waist is the standard rule unless you are lifting heavy weights as part of a reduction plan. So what you accomplished is pretty amazing!
Posted by: Boswell at September 22, 2023 05:06 PM (K+UlC)
I stopped reading when I saw "Scientific American."
It used to be a reasonably balanced source of current science information.
and nordictrack ads, but mostly nordictrack ads.
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 05:06 PM (sGtp+)
What a TikTok video THAT would be. Amiright?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 22, 2023 05:07 PM (guGkK)
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2023 05:07 PM (i9ffA)
Posted by: Big Pharma at September 22, 2023 05:07 PM (JkeTM)
Scientific American is neither Scientific nor is it American.
Posted by: Linda Richman at September 22, 2023 05:08 PM (lf83v)
It used to be a reasonably balanced source of current science information.
and nordictrack ads, but mostly nordictrack ads.
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 05:06 PM (sGtp+)
Peloton is the new hotness anyway.
Posted by: Even more expensive clothing racks at September 22, 2023 05:08 PM (lR6tR)
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at September 22, 2023 05:08 PM (VTu1l)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 22, 2023 05:08 PM (nnp+f)
85 pounds lighter than when I married. And not all out the ass, either. I weigh less than when I was in the Service, running 10 Ks every other day. But I lack the solid muscle tone and the French girlfriend I could never take home to Mom.
Eye checkup today went very well also. I have lives in my hands during the school year. So I pay attention to good visual acuity. I could see 20/15 with both eyes, and sorta 20/15 in each eye. No need to change prescriptions in my glasses. In addition, their less than accurate blood pressure do-dad measure 110/76.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2023 05:08 PM (u82oZ)
It was hanging right where I had left it ... imagine that.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 22, 2023 05:05 PM (xG4kz)
On top of your head?
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 22, 2023 05:08 PM (xPl2J)
the heat was rough. I wound up taking a month mostly off. If you weren't out by 8 am, then you'd have to wait to 8pm to run/walk, and it would still be hot then.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 05:08 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 22, 2023 05:00 PM (t/2Uw)
You might need to narrow that down a bit...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2023 05:08 PM (llON8)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 22, 2023 05:08 PM (qPw5n)
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace
You should have a spotter like at the gym to make sure you don;t drop something on your head.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 22, 2023 05:08 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at September 22, 2023 04:55 PM (KRtlO)
Of course it's not an either/or thing.
What is often done as "standard" psychotherapy isn't terribly effective, because the focus/emphasis is often pointed in the wrong direction, and the therapist thinks it's their job to direct it in the first place.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:08 PM (bFMjy)
The Captain of the Gate:
"To every man upon this earth death cometh soon or late. And how can man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his gods."
Posted by: Archer, the final season at September 22, 2023 05:08 PM (gmo/4)
Have you tried cogitating instead? It's done wonders for me!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 22, 2023 05:09 PM (guGkK)
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 04:59 PM (sGtp+)
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That sounds like Fournier's gangrene.
did you miss the part where i said i was sticking to the spider story? doctors and their disinformation, i tell ya.
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 05:09 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 05:06 PM (omVj0)
I once had to return to New Orleans in August after spending a month in San Diego. Getting on that plane was one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to do.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2023 05:09 PM (JTwsP)
All gone now.
Plus, gravity is just a stone cold unrelenting bitch.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 22, 2023 05:09 PM (MeG8a)
So I am confronting my fears: I am crossing the Shelf Rubicon.
Just run a camera feed continuously with the device pointing into a one upper corner of the room in which you are endeavoring to persevere.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 22, 2023 05:09 PM (xG4kz)
Soon....
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 22, 2023 05:09 PM (t/2Uw)
I would suspect this is because we are a morning oriented society.
Sure you are a evening chronotype. Work, school, and other obligations are still going to make you get up at 6 or 7 AM.
Posted by: Hunter Biden at September 22, 2023 05:09 PM (XqcwY)
I never start a search where an item is supposed to be. I do a scan of the local geological / horizontal surface filing "system" first.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2023 05:09 PM (u82oZ)
It was hanging right where I had left it ... imagine that.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)
Please tell us you were wearing it the whole time. Lie if you need to.
Posted by: BifBewalski at September 22, 2023 05:09 PM (3CCua)
Poof! Sadness gone.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 22, 2023 05:10 PM (lf83v)
There is some research onto memory related to the above. Some researches claim to have identified a portion of the brain that suppresses bad memories. It activates when you have feeling of stress/fear/pain, and inhibits (or erases) the memories that created those feelings.
I don't remember details, but I think it was somewhere in the prefrontal cortex.
This makes a lot of sense, since I think most people accept that we *can* suppress memories that cause pain.
As for the confront/avoid argument above, I think the key distinction is that some bad stuff can be avoided but other things are encountered daily and so must be confronted and acclimated.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 22, 2023 05:10 PM (0571D)
Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2023 05:10 PM (XqcwY)
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2023 05:10 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 22, 2023 05:11 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 22, 2023 05:11 PM (xG4kz)
Why? because I have a stupid overactive imagination that tells me exactly what's going to happen if I fall off.
So what do I do? I climb the stupid ladders and I carefully walk around the edges of drops. Because it has to be done, and letting myself not do things because of it just... won't work.
And that's great until the ladder work requires me to do something that makes me dizzy. Because dizziness and heights are a great combination.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 22, 2023 05:11 PM (ou9hh)
Soon. I hope your chickens are behaving, and your Mom is well.
Or you can tell us stories of your birdbrain chickens. Soon.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2023 05:11 PM (u82oZ)
Have you tried cogitating instead? It's done wonders for me!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)
Meditating?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 22, 2023 05:11 PM (t/2Uw)
The Captain of the Gate:
"To every man upon this earth death cometh soon or late. And how can man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his gods."
__________
Judiciously used in the Churchill movie -- the scene in the Underground.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 22, 2023 05:11 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: wth at September 22, 2023 05:12 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: fd
With booze, you're just fooling yourself. False confidence and courage. OTOH, weed won't let you fool yourself. You HAVE to confront your fears and demons. And then after you resolve to do so, you pick up that guitar that's been gathering dust, tune it up, plug it in, and blast Smoke on the Water. Maaaaan, that feels so good.
Posted by: SFGoth at September 22, 2023 05:12 PM (KAi1n)
My colleague said that showing this in fiction must mean that I personally have or had a happy family life. This puzzles me, as -- aside from my mother -- I wasn't close to anyone in my family growing up, and disliked my father. And we had no contact with any extended family. So I have no idea where my model for this kind of happy family could come from.
'Tis a puzzlement.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 05:12 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 05:12 PM (V13WU)
11 yo me did that at Silver Springs Park in FL. Put a ginormous snake around my neck thinking it would get me over fear of snakes. I guess it worked, but still kill them when I see 'em.
Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2023 05:12 PM (ju2Fy)
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 05:09 PM (sGtp+)
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LOL. No, I saw it. My dad had Fournier's gangrene, that's the only reason I know what it is.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2023 05:12 PM (DRSnL)
Please tell us you were wearing it the whole time. Lie if you need to.
Posted by: BifBewalski
For months at a time? I don't think so.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 22, 2023 05:12 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2023 05:02 PM (BdMk6)
It's best not to thing of them as a "cure," but as a way to stabilize enough to start working on one's mental health.
Unfortunately... and I know this is going to come as a shock to everybody here, the Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex is quite skilled at convincing the public (and prescribers) that eating pills is the end all/be all to solving what ails.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:12 PM (bFMjy)
All gone now.
Plus, gravity is just a stone cold unrelenting bitch.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 22, 2023 05:09 PM (MeG8a)
You did great! Not easy to lose that kind of weight. Lifestyle changes and thought processes are different, so I salute you, sir...
Posted by: Boswell at September 22, 2023 05:13 PM (K+UlC)
Posted by: Lurking McLurkrerface at September 22, 2023 05:13 PM (51uCC)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 22, 2023 05:13 PM (blQJ+)
Soon....
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 22, 2023 05:09 PM (t/2Uw)
*counting days*
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2023 05:13 PM (llON8)
Good old fashioned faith, repenting and forgiveness does work.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 22, 2023 05:13 PM (cMXNt)
May Ophelia spare the Smithsonian and National Gallery of Art, but smite the DeepState.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2023 05:13 PM (u82oZ)
"Feel the fear and do it anyway."
And another:
"The hard thing to do is usually the right thing to do."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 05:13 PM (omVj0)
Fun weekend: lifted, commentated, handled lifters…busy, busy, busy.
The lifting didn’t go as smoothly as I hoped. Ran into a bracing issue that left me lightheaded, and that killed my Squat. Did OK with my Bench attempts, going 3/3. Pooched my Deadlifts due to sloppy technique (you play like you practice), and fatigue..
The bracing issue is solvable, the technique issue is also a solvable situation. The continued poor Thyroid function should be addressable…if my fuqing doctor would listen to me.
Oh well, next year in Salt Lake City…
Posted by: browndog on his cellphone at September 22, 2023 05:13 PM (CCSxw)
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2023 05:14 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 22, 2023 05:14 PM (nnp+f)
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 05:09 PM (sGtp+)
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LOL. No, I saw it. My dad had Fournier's gangrene, that's the only reason I know what it is.
my doctor retired shortly before all this happened, so i had to get a new one when i got out. it's always fun when you tell a doctor why you were in the hospital for three months and his jaw drops and his eyes get big.
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 05:14 PM (sGtp+)
A watch. A simple Timex will do, doesn't have to even work.
Thought jumps up? Tap your watch, ask yourself. "What time is it?" IT's RIGHT NOW, is this thing/thought/fear/trauma actually happening RIGHT NOW? No? Then tap your toe, where are you? Right HERE. Is this thing/thought/trauma/pain/fear happening right HERE, Right NOW?
No..
Then get your mind back to right here right now..."Reality", is always right here and right now, never any other time or place, get'cher sick ass back into reality. Deal with anything from the past when you have some free time with nothing BETTER to do, deal with those fears of the future things when or IF they ever actually show up. In the mean time stop trying to live in some other time/space thought realm and start living in REAL Time, Right Now. Life is lived going forward not looking backwards, get out of your cheap ass self, take it outside and move it around. You have a rearveiw mirror in your car, but it's tiny in comparison to the windsheild, glance at it now and then as needed, but it does NOT show you where you are going.
Tap your Watch, Tap your Toe. Get HERE.
Posted by: birddog at September 22, 2023 05:14 PM (1E8/t)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 22, 2023 05:11 PM (IG4Id)
Oh no!
Anyway... (hopes Morons and 'Ettes are unaffected)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2023 05:14 PM (llON8)
Excellent.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 22, 2023 05:14 PM (blQJ+)
then I will be watching for your post - good luck, remember the previous life lessons you've learned.
Posted by: AK at work at September 22, 2023 05:14 PM (o+IHV)
That's medical advice in case you were wondering.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 22, 2023 05:15 PM (Q4IgG)
Also, remember to comp some "snow-bats" into tonight's Café.
Posted by: Big Penguin at September 22, 2023 05:15 PM (TKEXi)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 22, 2023 05:11 PM (IG4Id)
As long as we don't have to have a long winded speech of despair and flowers strewn about...oh wait...
Husband braved the walmart crowds for a few stockpile items- canned soup, water, hurricane snacks. The beer and liquor shelves were quickly emptying, so this might be pretty big.
Posted by: Moki at September 22, 2023 05:15 PM (JrN/x)
Rupert Murdoch’s Successor is his Son And he’s just as bad
Lol. They still think fox is coNseRvAtiVe
Posted by: Montec at September 22, 2023 05:16 PM (r+ghq)
She instantly turned that offer down. Her brother -- my son -- was in high school and addicted to heroin (story for another day).
Instead of drugs, she went out got a cat. It took the focus (and sadness) off of her and she did fine. Her grades took off and now she is in law school in Boston on a full-ride scholarship. She still has the cat, but she named it Bader.
Now, I'm depressed.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 22, 2023 05:16 PM (lf83v)
I once had to return to New Orleans in August after spending a month in San Diego. Getting on that plane was one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to do.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2023
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And I have to listen to locals (technically I am one; spiritually I have never fitted in here) tell me how much they love living here. Another sort of torture. Gah.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 05:16 PM (omVj0)
Oh, so 'tis Ophelia that is the cause for calling off our weekend camping.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 22, 2023 05:16 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Sockpuppet Czar at September 22, 2023 05:17 PM (S+YU0)
Posted by: birddog at September 22, 2023 05:14 PM (1E8/t)
A fine summation of "mindfulness."
Which is a tool that SHOULD be used with damn near every therapeutic approach, with damn near every patient.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:17 PM (bFMjy)
Making progress on them at least least, even if it is baby steps.
Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at September 22, 2023 05:17 PM (s3vs/)
Posted by: Archer, the final season at September 22, 2023 05:18 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Big Abe Maslow, got yer back, Chuy at September 22, 2023 05:18 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2023 05:18 PM (Wy1BU)
I remember when you told me your shelves were "bombproof".
And how we waited to see if you would post after you put your TV on the wall.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2023 05:18 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 05:04 PM (sGtp+)
You know that's what it's for because when it stops, the pilot starts to sweat!
Posted by: spindrift at September 22, 2023 05:18 PM (EGPRf)
Listen to your Mother,
Mother Goose.
"For every issue under the sun,
there is a solution, or there is none.
If there be one try to find it.
If there's not...Never Mind It."
Posted by: birddog at September 22, 2023 05:18 PM (1E8/t)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 22, 2023 05:08 PM (nnp+f)
I prefer to tell them "sticks and stones may break your bones, but names will never hurt you" when I tell them to man up.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 22, 2023 05:18 PM (exHjb)
Go ahead, experience a major episode of depression and tell me that. Go ahead, I'll wait.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2023 05:18 PM (xTRSc)
I understand that the advice is to write what you know, but really, you'd think that a bunch of writers would understand that it's possible to write what you imagine as well.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 22, 2023 05:18 PM (ou9hh)
Now, I'm depressed.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 22, 2023 05:16 PM (lf83v)
Perhaps she is a Diedrich Bader fan?
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trailer Trash Adjacent at September 22, 2023 05:18 PM (T/Lqj)
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I believe this
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 22, 2023 05:18 PM (xmxLW)
May Ophelia spare the Smithsonian and National Gallery of Art, but smite the DeepState.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2023 05:13 PM (u82oZ)
From your keyboard to God's ear!
I hope you and the lovely Mrs. are well!
Posted by: Moki at September 22, 2023 05:19 PM (JrN/x)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 22, 2023 05:16 PM (lf83v)
Why? Did you want to be the cat's master?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:19 PM (bFMjy)
You're not saying what happened was ok, you're just saying "I'm not going to let that affect my life anymore."
Lots of people identify themselves by their trauma. They will never allow themselves to be free of their victimhood. It's a security blanket.
Posted by: nurse ratched, sea otter Awareness WEEK starts Sunday! at September 22, 2023 05:19 PM (U2p+3)
There is some distance--maybe 50 feet away, at which the child's phobia is not triggered. Start with the vacuum cleaner at that distance, and reward the child with play or something while you leave the vaccum running. Over a period of time, slowly move the vacuum cleaner incrementally closer, never moving it quickly enough to frighten the child. Eventually that phobia will be gone. Completely gone.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at September 22, 2023 05:20 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 04:59 PM (sGtp+)
yikes
Posted by: m at September 22, 2023 05:20 PM (30MvH)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2023 05:21 PM (JTwsP)
Posted by: nurse ratched, sea otter Awareness WEEK starts Sunday! at September 22, 2023 05:19 PM (U2p+3)
In current society, it also puts you up the ladder in status. Victimhood is a status symbol and a way to get ahead.
Posted by: Nova Local at September 22, 2023 05:21 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 22, 2023 05:11 PM (IG4Id)
Is there a nunnery in DC?
Posted by: spindrift at September 22, 2023 05:21 PM (EGPRf)
Now, I'm depressed.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 22, 2023 05:16 PM (lf83v)
Perhaps she is a Diedrich Bader fan?
perhaps she's from meinhoff?
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 05:21 PM (sGtp+)
You're not saying what happened was ok, you're just saying "I'm not going to let that affect my life anymore."
Lots of people identify themselves by their trauma. They will never allow themselves to be free of their victimhood. It's a security blanket.
Posted by: nurse ratched, sea otter Awareness WEEK starts Sunday! at September 22, 2023 05:19 PM (U2p+3)
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Yeah but where is the money in that?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 22, 2023 05:21 PM (cMXNt)
Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 22, 2023 05:18 PM (ou9hh)
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Balderdash!
Posted by: Science Fiction and Fantasy Authors at September 22, 2023 05:21 PM (YIVH2)
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I believe this
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 22, 2023 05:18 PM (xmxLW)
What happens then, when the person can't "just stop" thinking about it?
This is the very definition of the illness. The person who can "just get over it" is not the one with the mental illness. That's called living. The person who can't, needs something else.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:21 PM (bFMjy)
I'll send you my revised story tomorrow. Thanks for the help.
Does WTOP still do the voice of Doom from the glass-enclosed nerve center on the 8s?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2023 05:22 PM (u82oZ)
I suffer from depression because my brain is susceptible to depressive ways of thinking.
Think of it as an ulcer, except in the brain.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2023 05:22 PM (xTRSc)
Following a similar program, only three times a week instead of daily and adding a pushup a week. Well, I add one when I can remember to. Currently doing 62 pushups. Did the same for situps in 2:1 ratio to the pushups, but I stopped adding those when I got to 100. Goal is to do 100 of each.
Anyways, keep going, you're kickin' ass!
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 22, 2023 05:22 PM (Bd6X8)
Posted by: anachronda
I got bit by a the MURDER HORNET KING last Sunday biking. It was the size of a small cat. My arm swelled up and only yesterday was starting to calm down, but still warm to touch and sensitive.
I am about to go out again. I dread that last hill where the flies and murder hornets live. They attack up the climb. When I turn and go down, the road is covered in moss and this time of year wet and slippery. I fall about once a year, on average. Yet I persist.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 22, 2023 05:22 PM (0571D)
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 05:14 PM (sGtp+)
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I hope you're doing okay now. It took a lot out of my dad.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2023 05:22 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 22, 2023 05:11 PM (IG4Id)
As long as we don't have to have a long winded speech of despair and flowers strewn about...oh wait...
Husband braved the walmart crowds for a few stockpile items- canned soup, water, hurricane snacks. The beer and liquor shelves were quickly emptying, so this might be pretty big.
Posted by: Moki at September 22, 2023 05:15 PM (JrN/x)
At least you weren't at Aldi's this morning - that was a mob (and here, I was buying the stuff for our homeless sandwich making on Sunday, or I'd have gone sooner and not had to deal with panic...but bread doesn't stay good long)...
Posted by: Nova Local at September 22, 2023 05:22 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: BurtTC
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LOL. I can't stand cats, but this cat knows to stay away from me. Loyal to my daughter and keeps her entertained. Especially when my daughter put the cat entertainment videos on YouTube.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 22, 2023 05:23 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2023 05:21 PM (JTwsP)
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A chemical engineer I know is terrified of that stuff. He'll work with all sorts of crazy dangerous chemicals, but HF gives him the heebie-jeebies.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 22, 2023 05:23 PM (YIVH2)
Posted by: So don't let them at September 22, 2023 05:23 PM (51uCC)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2023 05:23 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
I take it daily along with quercetin. Does it work? No idea. I do know that I'm not taking any medications to counteract what it's supposed to work for, so maybe it does work. Berberine is an iron chelator (binds to iron and flushes it out), as are green tea and turmeric, both of which I also take. My last 2 blood tests have revealed a very low (sub-normal) ferritin count. Ferritin is an indirect marker of iron stores as it is the protein that carries (ferries?) iron in the blood. However, my iron stores are normal so I'm not quite sure what to make of that except that ferritin levels usually correspond to inflammation levels and apparently I generally have low markers of inflammation. I attribute low inflammation to a good omega 3 - 6 ratio, exercise, minimal alcohol and sugar intake, and ganja.
Posted by: SFGoth at September 22, 2023 05:23 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2023 05:24 PM (63Dwl)
I was planning on d oing some cooking tomorrow with the rainly weather. Harvested most of the basil to make pesto.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 22, 2023 05:24 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 22, 2023 05:22 PM (0571D)
It was not!
Posted by: m at September 22, 2023 05:24 PM (30MvH)
Posted by: Nova Local at September 22, 2023 05:21 PM (exHjb)
There's a venn diagram here, of people with mental illness, and those who claim victim status. It's not a circle, but it's probably fairly close to one.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:24 PM (bFMjy)
Posted by: nurse ratched, sea otter Awareness WEEK starts Sunday! at September 22, 2023 05:19 PM (U2p+3)
Some people revel in their depression. It's like the modern "goth" movement among kids. Depression feeds on depression to a point of belonging.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2023 05:25 PM (BdMk6)
.......
Are Lucius Balbus and Sulpicus Rufus coming over for dinner?
Posted by: wth at September 22, 2023
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Lucullus is offering the hospitality of his villa.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 05:25 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2023 05:25 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 05:14 PM (sGtp+)
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I hope you're doing okay now. It took a lot out of my dad.
doing well. fortunately, there was a lot there to take out. ten more pounds and i'm down to my high school weight.
the most annoying thing was that after three months of wearing nothing but socks in the hospital, i had lost the knack of keeping my birkenstocks on my feet. had to retrain my toes. keep taking a step and discovering that something was missing.
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 05:25 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 22, 2023 05:23 PM (lf83v)
You can't stand cats?
Here, lay down on ziss couch, tell me about your muzzer.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:26 PM (bFMjy)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2023 05:26 PM (JTwsP)
https://tinyurl.com/2dechsdj
A growing number of House Republicans are expressing opposition to voting in favor of more aid to Ukraine. Most say we should be securing our own border and dealing with the federal budget needs. Republicans are rightly asking for accountability to the billions of dollars in financial and military equipment aid already given to Ukraine.
Zelensky delivered a dire message to a bipartisan group of senators. He said, “If we don’t get the aid, we will lose the war.’ That is what Chuck Schumer reported. “There was a single sentence that summed it all up, and I’m quoting him verbatim.”
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at September 22, 2023 05:26 PM (9aVck)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2023 05:25 PM (63Dwl)
Think we otter?
Posted by: m at September 22, 2023 05:26 PM (30MvH)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 22, 2023 05:26 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 22, 2023 05:16 PM (lf83v)
The Boswell spawn was recruited at BU to play golf - we toured it, but I hated the location at the west end of Boston. The area sucked...
She wound up at another liberal NE college, so maybe not the greatest trade off - but BU sucked.
Posted by: Boswell at September 22, 2023 05:27 PM (K+UlC)
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not right away. but one must create a mechanism to get past it. if one does not develop it, trauma becomes pathological.
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 05:27 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2023
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Hydrofluoric? My high school chemistry was a while ago, but as I recall, almost anything with fluorine in it is rough on the human system.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 05:27 PM (omVj0)
We do not exist in a void. Every experience, whether positive or negative, shapes who we are.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2023 05:27 PM (xTRSc)
Now, I'm depressed.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
Yeah, naming a cat after a German General of Artillerie would be depressing.
Posted by: SFGoth at September 22, 2023 05:27 PM (KAi1n)
"There I was, with 3,000 screaming Libyans between me and freedom. All I had was a zippo lighter and a Fairbairn–Sykes knife.
I made it home, but not without a scar. Want to see it, cutie?"
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2023 05:28 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2023 05:28 PM (fwDg9)
Now, I'm depressed.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
Yeah, naming a cat after a German General of Artillerie would be depressing.
Posted by: SFGoth at September 22, 2023 05:27 PM (KAi1n)
Gruber ?
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 22, 2023 05:28 PM (NtVYv)
Paul Lynde: Take him out of the bag.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at September 22, 2023 05:29 PM (JkeTM)
"There I was, with 3,000 screaming Libyans between me and freedom. All I had was a zippo lighter and a Fairbairn–Sykes knife.
I made it home, but not without a scar. Want to see it, cutie?"
*takes notes*
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 05:29 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 22, 2023 05:26 PM (17s+e)
I thought it was more hogwash-based. Or maybe malarky.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trailer Trash Adjacent at September 22, 2023 05:29 PM (T/Lqj)
Posted by: spindrift at September 22, 2023 05:29 PM (EGPRf)
Oh well, no sense dwelling. There's always tomorrow.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at September 22, 2023 05:29 PM (bNf8H)
Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 22, 2023
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Balderdash!
Posted by: Science Fiction and Fantasy Authors at September 22, 2023
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Utter nonsense!
Posted by: Mystery Authors Who've Never Been Cops at September 22, 2023 05:29 PM (omVj0)
You're not saying what happened was ok, you're just saying "I'm not going to let that affect my life anymore."
Lots of people identify themselves by their trauma. They will never allow themselves to be free of their victimhood. It's a security blanket.
Posted by: nurse ratched, sea otter Awareness WEEK starts Sunday! at September 22, 2023 05:19 PM (U2p+3)
We also live in a society that rewards victim status- the bigger victim you are, the more perks you get, and in some cases, the more you get to bully other, less victimy people.
Posted by: Moki at September 22, 2023 05:30 PM (JrN/x)
I used to tell my students that HF acid is a weak acid. It only really dissolves human flesh and glass. I treated it with caution and respect.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2023 05:30 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: SFGoth at September 22, 2023 05:27 PM (KAi1n)
Gruber ?
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway
Paul Bader. (When you play HOI regularly, you get to know a lot of Wehrmacht general names.)
Posted by: SFGoth at September 22, 2023 05:30 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: I've always wondered at September 22, 2023 05:30 PM (51uCC)
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Ukraine and the west lost the war in the first 5 days. Sorry but that is the truth.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 22, 2023 05:30 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2023 05:30 PM (gDx5p)
NTTIAWWT.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2023 05:31 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2023 05:31 PM (Wy1BU)
Posted by: Kurt Voinnegut at September 22, 2023 05:31 PM (JkeTM)
Posted by: m
I actually never even saw it. I thought I was bit by a fly, but then my arm swelled up. I have been bit by wasps and bees before, but this was different. I felt it though when I slapped it, and it was kind of big -- going by the feel on my hand, somewhere between housefly and kiwi fruit.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 22, 2023 05:32 PM (0571D)
Are you able to lean into your nightowl tendencies because you're a slob that has a shit job that doesn't require much commitment ??? At that point, the only thing keeping you from bad habits is sheer willpower - which you probably don't have.
Posted by: deadrody at September 22, 2023 05:32 PM (eyZNz)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 22, 2023 05:32 PM (nnp+f)
I'll send you my revised story tomorrow. Thanks for the help.
Does WTOP still do the voice of Doom from the glass-enclosed nerve center on the 8s?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2023 05:22 PM (u82oZ)
Yeah!! Really enjoyed that story!!! And honestly I would not be surprised at that happening!!
Yep, WTOP: "if the worst can happen, we are here to joyfully report it!"
Posted by: Moki at September 22, 2023 05:32 PM (JrN/x)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:21 PM (bFMjy)
If you read the article they trued specific techniques. There are probably a lot of techniques that could work, including religious methods.
I just believe that continually focusing on and reliving and reexamining past hurt's doesn't help
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 22, 2023 05:33 PM (xmxLW)
But, I use a VPN, so that isn't going to work anyhow
Posted by: deadrody at September 22, 2023 05:33 PM (eyZNz)
Posted by: Eromero
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I have always thought the reason that people get into psych is because they are mentally fucked up people and they know it.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 22, 2023 05:33 PM (17s+e)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvujypVVBAY
Posted by: Rick T at September 22, 2023 04:42 PM (xeXUW)
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Awesome, had never seen that. Thanks!
Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at September 22, 2023 05:34 PM (5J1RI)
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I understand that the advice is to write what you know, but really, you'd think that a bunch of writers would understand that it's possible to write what you imagine as well.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 22, 2023
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I think the real trick is to mix the two -- imagine something you've never lived through, but populate it with people and details from things you have.
Dean Koontz said in his book on how to write a best-seller many years ago is that the advice should be, "Write what you know," but also "Write what you are prepared to learn about."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 05:34 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at September 22, 2023 05:34 PM (JkeTM)
Posted by: Bobby McFerrin at September 22, 2023 05:34 PM (DgGvY)
But with the victims are king mentality people are encouraged to relive every time someone hurt their feelings and that just builds up the emotional hurt when what is needed is "well so and so was socially dumb at that time or it isn't worth caring about what they think" I will firmly push that memory or thought away and remember something that made me happy instead."
Posted by: PaleRider at September 22, 2023 05:34 PM (3cGpq)
It is always Douglas Bader for me.
Sir Douglas Bader to be mores pecific. A good fighter pilot, who was stubbornly wrong in the Battle of Britain, and later shot town by a British fighter pilot. Oops.
He was eventually sent to Colditz Castle as one of the Allied Bad Boys.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2023 05:34 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2023 05:34 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: deadrody at September 22, 2023 05:35 PM (eyZNz)
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 05:35 PM (V13WU)
Lessee...I broke 60 seconds in a Solitaire game. No?
My deer are fat and sassy. Think I'll go with that one.
Thanks, ace...for you know what and you know why.
Posted by: creeper at September 22, 2023 05:35 PM (cTCuP)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse
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Unless you are "power fapping" then you go right to sleep.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 22, 2023 05:35 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace
I like to position myself where I can see the main entrance and alternate exit (say the kitchen door in a restaurant) so I get a chance to react if a hit is called out on me.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 22, 2023 05:35 PM (ga8qR)
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Ukraine and the west lost the war in the first 5 days. Sorry but that is the truth.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 22, 2023 05:30 PM (17s+e)
The teenage strategy...brilliant: If you don't let me go out this Saturday, I'll just die.
Ninny parent: Oh, we better let her go out this Saturday. We don't want her to die, do we??
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:36 PM (bFMjy)
Yeah, that's what my therapist taught me, essentially.
"Wow, that was stupid of me to say that today.
STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT.
Anyway, back to rewording that paragraph in the story I'm writing...."
Posted by: pookysgirl will someday actually write things at September 22, 2023 05:37 PM (dtlDP)
I have a sister though who talks about her childhood all the time and is sad all the time, yada yada. Sort of an addiction.
Posted by: PJ at September 22, 2023 05:38 PM (G1dq6)
What if the real way to get past trauma is to... get past it? To just stop thinking about it?
For half a century of my life I was able to ignore the sexual abuse I received when in the Boy Scouts - block it out. Well, a decade or so later I did tell my wife there was no way my son was getting into that organization. My daughter and her sons? Likewise. Stay away. Signing onto the BSA 20% bankruptcy (20% Bankruptcy? RU F kidding me? 20%?) lawsuit has not been pleasant. Now the trial lawyers want me to dig up all of the unpleasant details and spell them out for them. In detail. Not fun.
I will say this, if I can find the name of the summabitch abuser he better be dead. 'Cause the first spot on the MRI I'm gonna find him. Non-violently of course. 'Cause that would be wrong. Maybe place some flowers on his grave. Right?
I knew someone else in my troop who was sexually abused, and attempted to contact him to let him know I would back his story if he came forward. No reply. Probably the better move.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 22, 2023 05:38 PM (enJYY)
i'm an army brat. dad was cid and spent a chunk of the '70s chasing the bader-meinhoff gang around stuttgart. so when i hear bader, i always think bader-meinhoff.
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 05:38 PM (sGtp+)
May you be thriving!
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2023 05:39 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 22, 2023 05:39 PM (qPw5n)
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 05:39 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 22, 2023 05:33 PM (xmxLW)
Yeah, I know.
Ace summarized it as suggesting the way to handle trauma and anxiety and depression is to just not think about it.
My point is, if you can "just not think about it," then it's really not anxiety or depression or PTSD as a clinically diagnosable condition. If it was, just not thinking about it wouldn't work. You'd just be... normal.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:39 PM (bFMjy)
Posted by: nurse ratched, sea otter Awareness WEEK starts Sunday! at September 22, 2023 05:39 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 22, 2023 05:35 PM (ga8qR)
LOL. We're talking traumatic, not dramatic.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2023 05:40 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 05:40 PM (V13WU)
I'll give the things to Linda, who does not have heartburn issues, and be glad to be rid of 'em.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 05:41 PM (omVj0)
Ninny parent: Oh, we better let her go out this Saturday. We don't want her to die, do we??
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:36 PM (bFMjy)
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"If you don't let us mutilate your mentally troubled or ill child, they'll kill themselves."
Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at September 22, 2023 05:41 PM (5J1RI)
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 05:42 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:39 PM (bFMjy)
That's the problem right there. Nobody wants to be just......normal.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2023 05:42 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Denny Crane! at September 22, 2023 05:42 PM (FyQnD)
The trauma based stuff I’m not so sure. What little paperwork left over after Helms was done, indicated that this was intended to create dual or split personalities. Deep trauma, often rape, when very young is sufficient to do this. Remember we were told they were A. Trying to protect American GIs from “brainwashing”. And, create maybe a “Manchurian Candidate”, or, imprint top secret info that can only be received through hypnosis
Posted by: Common Tater at September 22, 2023 05:43 PM (JL+3K)
Posted by: SFGoth at September 22, 2023 05:43 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 22, 2023 05:14 PM (nnp+f)
I've been taking it for a few months. Not impressed with much improvement yet, but it def hasn't made anything worse.
Posted by: Catherine at September 22, 2023 05:43 PM (ZSsrh)
Posted by: Weaning myself off of it at September 22, 2023 05:44 PM (51uCC)
I like to position myself where I can see the main entrance and alternate exit (say the kitchen door in a restaurant) so I get a chance to react if a hit is called out on me.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 22, 2023
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NOW you tell me!
Posted by: Wild Bill Hickok at September 22, 2023 05:44 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at September 22, 2023 05:41 PM (5J1RI)
A modern twist on an age old strategy.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:44 PM (bFMjy)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 22, 2023 05:35 PM (ga8qR)
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Bongino mentioned this and other personal safety tips today on his podcast and radio show in the wake of that recent suburban carjacking in the guy's home garage -- and apparently increasing incidents of criminals following others to their homes.
Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at September 22, 2023 05:45 PM (5J1RI)
so who knows what is about to happen
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace
look for a tab that goes all the way thru the drill and slides in/out 1/4 inch or so.
Posted by: DaveA at September 22, 2023 05:45 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: With a shot of rum at September 22, 2023 05:45 PM (51uCC)
Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at September 22, 2023 05:46 PM (45fpk)
Those in psychiatry who advocated for constant naval-gazing and 'confronting' issues knew it was ineffective and harmful.
It was purposeful.
Posted by: DaisyB at September 22, 2023 05:46 PM (AbL8c)
Posted by: Common Tater at September 22, 2023 05:43 PM (JL+3K)
Dissociation, to whatever extent, is one of the most common experiences of those with trauma histories.
Tapping into it, and implanting through hypnosis (or drugs) is the essence of the MKUltra program.
People think it was abandoned, that they couldn't get it to work.
Or, Sirhan Sirhan didn't really kill Bobby Kennedy.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:46 PM (bFMjy)
Damn ! sorry , man.
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 05:42 PM
Thanks, but not looking for a single ounce of sympathy. This is life. Shit's gonna happen. How we cope is the key. I just wanna throw my .02 cents of experience into the discussion.
Kinda wish I had left Door #2 closed.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 22, 2023 05:47 PM (enJYY)
Posted by: BurtTC
If you don't give me a cookie, I will hold my breath u til I turn blue.
These people never got past toddler stage did they?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2023 05:47 PM (Wy1BU)
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2023 05:48 PM (T4tVD)
The Bears had over $100K worth of equipment stolen from Soldier Field Wednesday night 😳
Thieves tore down a security fence to drive the items out of the stadium (via @ABC7Chicago)
nascarcasm @nascarcasm 2h
My God they can't block anybody can they?
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at September 22, 2023 05:48 PM (krqg6)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 22, 2023 05:11 PM (IG4Id)
Looks like good reason to declare a national emergency and cancel elections.
...and round up political opposition.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 22, 2023 05:49 PM (ga8qR)
Posted by: Packer fans everywhere at September 22, 2023 05:49 PM (51uCC)
I'll remind myself of that when it's 90 F. in late October.
Posted by: Wild Bill Hickok at September 22, 2023 05:49 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2023 05:49 PM (gDx5p)
Shelf installation truly is Ace's Moby Dick.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 22, 2023 05:49 PM (k1Qly)
Those in psychiatry who advocated for constant naval-gazing and 'confronting' issues knew it was ineffective and harmful.
It was purposeful.
Posted by: DaisyB at September 22, 2023 05:46 PM (AbL8c)
One place I used to work, the person in charge of the trauma program, I'm convinced she was something of a sadist. Got off on triggering her patients, and was able to fool most people in the organization because she was superb at self-promotion, and pretending to care.
It probably comes as no surprise that she often dyed her hair, blue and other exotic colors.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:49 PM (bFMjy)
Wow
He's been discredited since I can remember.
Psychology is mostly a crock of shit in general. But... Freud?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2023 05:50 PM (0FoWg)
Posted by: DaisyB at September 22, 2023 05:46 PM (AbL8c)
After accounts of Fauce acting like Josef Mengele, I'm willing to believe that.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 22, 2023 05:50 PM (qPw5n)
Happy to report that so far, everything has gone well. The stray kitty was incredibly anxious for the first day but seemed to quickly calm down once he understood that housecat life required nothing of him except sleeping all day in air-conditioned luxury while humans brought him food. He was also a little defensive about his food for the first few days, but he seemed to quickly calm down with that, too.
As far as introducing him to our other cats, we've been doing it gradually, and it's probably gone as well as one could hope. The girls don't like him - they hiss and growl when he gets close - but there's no fighting, and they pretty much avoid him; he mostly avoids them in turn. Interestingly, he rarely growls or hisses back at them; he mainly just looks confused. Hopefully everyone will get more comfortable with each other over time, but I honestly didn't expect things to go this well this soon, so I'll count it as a win.
Posted by: Ex-liberal at September 22, 2023 05:50 PM (XdH1u)
Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at September 22, 2023 05:50 PM (45fpk)
For some of us, it just is.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2023 05:51 PM (xTRSc)
It was purposeful.
Posted by: DaisyB
* checks thread because someone must have said it already *
There it is:
118 "A cured patient is a lost customer."
Posted by: Big Pharma
Posted by: mikeski at September 22, 2023 05:51 PM (DgGvY)
These people never got past toddler stage did they?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 22, 2023 05:47 PM (Wy1BU)
But enough about the trannie groomers.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:51 PM (bFMjy)
Aha! That explains all the cruelty. I knew it was something.
Posted by: AnonybotymousDrivel at September 22, 2023 05:51 PM (aXxgO)
Rest, knowing you tried.
Posted by: creeper at September 22, 2023 05:51 PM (cTCuP)
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 05:52 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2023 05:52 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 05:53 PM (V13WU)
For some of us, it just is.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2023 05:51 PM (xTRSc)
Depression that isn't caused by environmental experiences is fairly uncommon. But it does exist.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:53 PM (bFMjy)
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 05:53 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: SFGoth at September 22, 2023 05:43 PM (KAi1n)
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I wish I had Sleep and/or Nap GAINZZZZ to report, but finishing up the third year of chronic insomnia.
2020 will be the eventual death of me... and I can't seem to "STOP IT!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at September 22, 2023 05:54 PM (5J1RI)
When I adopted little Dagny, the girl kitten, to live with young black Stirling, my only worry was that he'd knock her up. I had to get him snipped before they could live together. They're happy brother and sister now.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 05:55 PM (omVj0)
I'm digging around in a bin of "old shit." A lot of my late father's personal effects are in it, including an old Seiko watch. It has a day/date window. It's sitting on FRI 22. Been sitting in that bin for years. Untouched.
What are the odds?
It apparently works with movement because as soon as I started to handle it, it started working.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 22, 2023 05:55 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at September 22, 2023 05:55 PM (45fpk)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2023 05:56 PM (xTRSc)
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 05:56 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
Sometimes a banana is just a banana, Anna
Posted by: Sigmund Miklos-Freud's bedtime tales at September 22, 2023 05:56 PM (tbtUD)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 05:56 PM (omVj0)
Psychology is mostly a crock of shit in general. But... Freud?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2023 05:50 PM
When it comes to Dreams, he's still the best - no one better. No one has ever come even close to saying he's fulla shit on the topic. But some of his other stuff is not so much.
The phallic stuff? Yeah, too over the top. I think women, actual women, like their bodies and aren't envious of men's penises.
Please block Rachael/Richard Levine from a rebuttal.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 22, 2023 05:56 PM (enJYY)
Posted by: AK at work at September 22, 2023 05:57 PM (o+IHV)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2023 05:56 PM (xTRSc)
Depression is the worst. So sorry you have to deal with that crap.
Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at September 22, 2023 05:57 PM (45fpk)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 22, 2023 05:55 PM (Q4IgG)
I find it odd you immediately ruled out the supernatural.
I think it's far more likely, this watch is your key to unlocking a multiverse, and in one of those other worlds, your father is waiting for you to find him, so he can tell you about your superpowers.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:57 PM (bFMjy)
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023
***
Obligatory:
"Yeah, but was she hot?"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 05:57 PM (omVj0)
Smoking and physical inactivity are choices that can be dumped. But the insufficient sleep? It's all you daywalkers making all the noise during my optimal hours that's disruptive. So knock it off and step lightly.
Posted by: AnonybotymousDrivel at September 22, 2023 05:57 PM (aXxgO)
I've had a long, intense year of taking care of my aging father after loss of my mom. I live with him, a full hour and a half away from my wife and daughter. So I have been getting sloppy and lazy and depressed and anxious. And I have a CrossFit membership I have not been using, because as I said I am sloppy, and lazy, and depressed, and anxious.
So I have a sister, and she is about the third person who said I'm getting annoying. She told me I need to get into counseling or something, because she doesn't have the bandwidth for my crap. She said it more nicely than that.
So at my church there's this 70-year-old former executive multi-millionaire guy, whom I really admire. I called and talked to him. After the first 10 things on my list of 30 worries, he stopped me.
He said, and I quote, you're not depressed, and you're not anxious. So knock it off.
So I'm going back to the stupid gym to sweat and use my asthma inhaler and feel miserable and hopefully not die young, gasping for breath.
Posted by: Smallish Bees at September 22, 2023 05:58 PM (+tgkM)
Posted by: The Morton's salt Girl at September 22, 2023 05:58 PM (tbtUD)
"Yeah, but was she hot?"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 05:57 PM (omVj0)
she is now...
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 05:59 PM (V13WU)
For some of us, it just is.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2023 05:51 PM (xTRSc)
It's because of corn syrup and man-made global warming.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2023 05:59 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2023 05:59 PM (xTRSc)
Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at September 22, 2023 05:55 PM (45fpk)
Yes
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:59 PM (bFMjy)
Posted by: Physics is like, umm, the Law at September 22, 2023 05:59 PM (tbtUD)
What are the odds?
It apparently works with movement because as soon as I started to handle it, it started working.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 22, 2023
***
Seiko is mostly known for the quartz watches now, but they do make automatic ones that charge with body movement.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 05:59 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: PJ at September 22, 2023 06:00 PM (G1dq6)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
Posted by: Sen. John Fetterman at September 22, 2023 06:00 PM (tbtUD)
It's because of corn syrup and man-made global warming.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2023 05:59 PM (BdMk6)
Funny you should say that, not quite the same thing, but there is research that has linked gut health with psychosis.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 06:00 PM (bFMjy)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 05:59 PM (bFMjy)
It seems kinda whacky but it helped.
Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at September 22, 2023 06:00 PM (45fpk)
For some of us, it just is.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2023 05:51 PM (xTRSc)
It's because of corn syrup and man-made global warming.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2023 05:59 PM (BdMk6)
Oh, and gluten. Can't forget gluten.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2023 06:00 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 06:01 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 22, 2023
***
Seiko is mostly known for the quartz watches now, but they do make automatic ones that charge with body movement.
dad had a self-winding watch. it had a large semi-circular weight in it. moving around caused that weight to rotate, winding the spring.
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 06:01 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 06:01 PM (V13WU)
I'm digging around in a bin of "old shit." A lot of my late father's personal effects are in it, including an old Seiko watch. It has a day/date window. It's sitting on FRI 22. Been sitting in that bin for years. Untouched.
What are the odds?
Posted by: Martini Farmer
1 in 217.
* sprays Math-B-Gone *
It apparently works with movement because as soon as I started to handle it, it started working.
I was once a teenager, too.
Posted by: mikeski at September 22, 2023 06:01 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
I want
MO YELLOW
Posted by: Hunter B. at September 22, 2023 06:01 PM (tbtUD)
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 06:02 PM (V13WU)
the important question is: is it near the spot where they claim to have found the remains of sodom?
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4167080/posts
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 06:02 PM (sGtp+)
But it’s also a reason why I’m not a big fan of keeping a functional firearm in my home.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2023 06:02 PM (xTRSc)
The phallic stuff? Yeah, too over the top. I think women, actual women, like their bodies and aren't envious of men's penises.
Please block Rachael/Richard Levine from a rebuttal.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 22, 2023 05:56 PM (enJYY)
Freud is one of the first to link childhood trauma to later mental illness, and he was beginning to explore the extent to which this was sexual abuse/incest.
The powers that be raised an uproar, and he stopped pursuing that line of inquiry. He tapped into the more common neuroses, and the superficial link to more banal childhood experiences, and for that he is rightfully dismissed/ridiculed these days.
But he wasn't wrong about everything.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 06:03 PM (bFMjy)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 06:00 PM (bFMjy)
Yeah. I'm sure there's been an extensive use of the scientific method used in that conclusion.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2023 06:03 PM (BdMk6)
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4167080/posts
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 06:02 PM (sGtp+)
*sigh
so cool
missed my calling....
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 06:04 PM (V13WU)
My smoke detector keeps chirping. Time for a new battery, I guess. Or there's a very unhappy canary trapped in the wall.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 05:56 PM
This past spring I had a smoke detector that kept going off for apparently no reason. No smell - to me. For some reason I opened up a nearby outlet making a strange noise and discovered the electrician had used the 'poke the wires into the back of the outlet' method of wiring and over time the wire had loosened and current was arcing. Burned a percentage of the plastic outlet. There was a damned good reason the smoke detector was going off. Now I have to re-wire just about every outlet in the house.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 22, 2023 06:04 PM (enJYY)
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 06:04 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2023 06:04 PM (56Ff4)
Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at September 22, 2023 06:00 PM (45fpk)
I'm glad to hear it. It's sometimes hard to find a practitioner who is adept enough to handle all the twists and turns that can (and do) arise, but if you found a good one, it can be life changing.
Unfortunately right now I don't have the opportunity to practice with it, and I'm getting rusty.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 06:05 PM (bFMjy)
***
Obligatory:
"Yeah, but was she hot?"
not as hot as the ones that remained in sodom and had fire rain down on them.
Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2023 06:05 PM (sGtp+)
Guess he was way ahead of his time.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at September 22, 2023 06:06 PM (fTtFy)
Posted by: runner
No rubber-necking.
The Bible says so.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 22, 2023 06:06 PM (ga8qR)
It was my dad's "everyday" watch.
This is the first time I've put it on. It must be 45 years old. And, to be honest, I do sometimes think there are messages from the "beyond." Knowing my dad, it's probably not a good sign.
YMMV
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 22, 2023 06:06 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 22, 2023 06:07 PM (yHbh/)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2023 06:07 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 06:00 PM (bFMjy)
Yeah. I'm sure there's been an extensive use of the scientific method used in that conclusion.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2023 06:03 PM (BdMk6)
If you're being sarcastic, all I can tell you is that yes, there has been.
Which is why you'll notice I used the term "linked," and not cause/effect. It's still being explored, but the theory is, a disrupted and dysfunctional gut biome has the potential to affect the brain biome, and things can then go haywire.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 06:08 PM (bFMjy)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2023 06:08 PM (nEndu)
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023
***
I think exclusively now. They did have an Oysterquartz model that, despite having the same kind of case, didn't sell well; and many years ago an Oysterdate (?) that was a manual wind, i.e., you had to wind it each day. Both of my Rolexes (a '71 Date and a '78 Sub that I've had for more than twenty years) are automatics and keep fantastic time.
There are lots and lots of auto watches available, some inexpensive and some stratospheric in price. Seiko, Steinhart, Titoni, Atlantic, all good products and not $$$$.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 06:09 PM (omVj0)
The Bible says so.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 22, 2023 06:06 PM (ga8qR)
I saw a dude ram into a car ahead of him , while he was looking over at an accident that just happened.
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 06:09 PM (V13WU)
I know
Posted by: Mayor Pete at September 22, 2023 06:09 PM (tbtUD)
Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2023 06:10 PM (CEX6j)
https://youtu.be/jvujypVVBAY?si=hjO91zLOoSGeOOHw
Posted by: Smallish Bees at September 22, 2023 06:10 PM (+tgkM)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 22, 2023 06:11 PM (oVv5T)
This is the first time I've put it on. It must be 45 years old. And, to be honest, I do sometimes think there are messages from the "beyond." Knowing my dad, it's probably not a good sign.
YMMV
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 22, 2023
***
What model of Seiko is it? Find an old-school jeweler who can lube and service it, and it can soldier on for many more years. My Date model Rolex is more than fifty, and it keeps time as though I just bought it new.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 06:11 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 06:08 PM (bFMjy)
_____________
Whoever first broadened the term "genome" into every f*cking thing "ome" needs a good beating. I'm still waiting for them to find the "stupidome."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2023 06:12 PM (nEndu)
Posted by: runner
On the interstate it is not uncommon to have one accident on one side, and then shortly after one on the opposite side... and again a mile back on either side as people get jammed up.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 22, 2023 06:12 PM (ga8qR)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 22, 2023 06:12 PM (nnp+f)
_____________
This from the same people who urge "visualization" as a way of improving performance.
C'mon, shrinks, get your shit together.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2023 06:13 PM (nEndu)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 22, 2023 06:11 PM (oVv5T)
Wonderfully said.
Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at September 22, 2023 06:13 PM (45fpk)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2023 06:13 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Smallish Bees at September 22, 2023 06:14 PM (+tgkM)
you should wear with pride the scars on your skin
they're a map of the adventures and places you've been
Posted by: poi dog pondering at September 22, 2023 06:14 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2023 06:15 PM (CEX6j)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 22, 2023 06:12 PM (ga8qR)
......
Wait until they're all EV's and the whole city burns to the ground.
Posted by: wth at September 22, 2023 06:15 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2023 06:12 PM (nEndu)
I don't know about all that. I'm just using the term the researchers use, I can't really say I understand exactly what they mean by it. I just assumed they meant the mix of bacteria and other critters in the gut. That a supposedly healthy mix occurs from having a good diet, and a bad one is from eating crap.
Makes sense to me, but like I said, the researchers were able to demonstrate a link. What it all means, I certainly can't say.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 06:17 PM (bFMjy)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 06:08 PM (bFMjy)
"Biome" must be a new age word. Never heard the word or have seen it written in any medical journal in all my 35+ years in the medical profession.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2023 06:17 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: runner at September 22, 2023 06:17 PM (V13WU)
This past spring I had a smoke detector that kept going off for apparently no reason. No smell - to me. For some reason I opened up a nearby outlet making a strange noise and discovered the electrician had used the 'poke the wires into the back of the outlet' method of wiring and over time the wire had loosened and current was arcing. Burned a percentage of the plastic outlet. There was a damned good reason the smoke detector was going off. Now I have to re-wire just about every outlet in the house.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 22, 2023
***
The one in my apartment is weird -- the detector is AC powered with a 9V battery backup. I have no 9V batteries right now. Well, Dollar Tree has 'em.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 06:18 PM (omVj0)
they're a map of the adventures and places you've been
Posted by: poi dog pondering at September 22, 2023 06:14 PM (sGtp+)
Said every borderline/cutter.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 06:19 PM (bFMjy)
Posted by: Infidel
*
G. Adams, MD
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2023
***
In a one-hour episode fairly late in the show's run, Doc Adams reveals his first name is . . . Galen.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 06:19 PM (omVj0)
Posted by: Fun Food Facts at September 22, 2023 06:20 PM (83IzV)
Of course, I prefer Vostok watches
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 22, 2023 06:22 PM (nnp+f)
Posted by: Allen at September 22, 2023 06:22 PM (+63TS)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2023 06:17 PM (BdMk6)
A quick internet search says it's been in use for over a century, mostly applied to the flora (and fauna?) of various places. It's use with microbiology appears to be more recent.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2023 06:24 PM (bFMjy)
Scars are where you have been not where you're going.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 22, 2023 06:11 PM
It's funny how 'pithy comment' would seem to have a negative connotation when it is just the opposite. It is a wonderful abbreviation.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 22, 2023 06:24 PM (enJYY)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2023 06:24 PM (xTRSc)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 06:24 PM (omVj0)
I wasn't criticizing you, by any means. Just the people who started that stupid shit.
I'm just using the term the researchers use, I can't really say I understand exactly what they mean by it.
And therein lies the problem. They could just say "the intestinal flora" or "intestinal bacteria" and either would be totally unambiguous.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2023 06:25 PM (nEndu)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2023 06:24 PM (omVj0)
_____________
Noodome.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2023 06:26 PM (nEndu)
And therein lies the problem. They could just say "the intestinal flora" or "intestinal bacteria" and either would be totally unambiguous.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 22, 2023
***
Go with your gut!
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