Tucker Carlson: It Was Clear Before 2008 That Barack Obama Enjoyed Crack of Both the Powdered and Male Keister Varieties, but the Media Suppressed This Information

Tucker Carlson has claimed Barack Obama was smoking crack and having sex with men - but the media failed to report it ahead of the 2008 presidential election.
The former Fox News host repeated the accusation of Larry Sinclair who alleged that Obama bought and smoked cocaine before they had sex in 1999.
The allegation, which emerged while then-Senator Obama was gearing up for the presidential election, was roundly condemned as an attempted political hatchet-job.
But Carlson claimed Wednesday that it was 'really clear' that Obama had been having a gay affair. He claimed the media didn't run the story because the Obama campaign team threatened to refuse access to the Democratic candidate.
Carlson, 54, speaking on the popular Adam Carolla Show, said: 'In 2008, it became really clear that Barack Obama had been having sex with men and smoking crack.'
DailyMail.com has contacted Obama's representatives for comment.
'A guy came forward, Larry Sinclair, and said "I'll sign an affidavit" and he did, "I'll do a lie detector" and he did,' he added.
'I smoked crack with Barack Obama and had sex with him", that was obviously true.'
Carlson was referencing the claims made by convicted felon Sinclair at the National Press Club in 2008 while Obama was running for president.
He said nobody reported on it due to threats from the Obama campaign.
'Nobody reported it not because they were squeamish about sex or drugs but because the Obama campaign said anyone who reports on this gets no access to the Obama campaign,' he said. 'So, they didn't report on it.'
'The amount of lying in the media about it was unbelievable.
'This happens all the time up and down government.'

TUCKER CARLSON: “In 2008 it became really clear that Barack Obama had been HAVING SEX WITH MEN and smoking crack.”pic.twitter.com/MxEQ3EXQcC
— Chuck Callesto (@ChuckCallesto) August 31, 2023

I actually disagree with a lot of what Tucker says, but I'm glad to promote him saying the unsayable.

Is it "obvious" that Obama was gay and smoked crack based on this one guy's say-so? No, I don't think so.

Mind you, Obama is gay -- he confessed this much in his letters to a "girlfriend," stating that he frequently fantasized about having sex with men -- but I don't think any of that is clear or "obvious" from Larry Sinclair's claims. If you can have plausible doubts about a claim, then the claim is not "obviously" true.

Are Sinclair's claims possibly true? Yes, quite possibly. Certainly they've become more likely to be true now that we have it from Obama's own erotic memoirs that he fantasizes about having sex with men. (And in the 70s, sex was easy and plentiful -- there was no reason to stop at mere fantasization.)

But is it "obvious" they were true? Or was it obvious in 2008, more importantly?

Nah.

But whether true or not -- I'm so, so tired of The Regime dictating to us what we can say and what we can hear and read. Even when Tucker is wrong, which I find he frequently is, he is still expanding the range of opinions we are permitted to have and to simply hear from others.

Posted by: Ace at 05:15 PM

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Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 31, 2023 04:16 PM (ppBhU)

2 Buncha losers fighting in the old thread.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 31, 2023 04:16 PM (ppBhU)

3 I'll get 'em. I guess.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 31, 2023 04:16 PM (ppBhU)

4 Crack is whack!

Posted by: Zombie whitney houston at August 31, 2023 04:16 PM (qik3p)

5 Whew. That other thread smelled like hot ass cushions on a public bus.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 31, 2023 04:17 PM (mZ3xv)

6 Oh, boy. And away we go....

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 31, 2023 04:17 PM (tQL7r)

7 Obama sucks cock by choice.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 31, 2023 04:17 PM (FDQ4h)

8 That does sound like quite the night!

Let he who has never smoked crack and been buttfucked by a felon cast the first stone!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:17 PM (mj0Qp)

9 No one gets into trouble for lying, only for telling the truth.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 31, 2023 04:17 PM (MeG8a)

10 Obama can’t be gay because Democrats still need that one as another Historic First for someone like Pete Butt.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at August 31, 2023 04:18 PM (fKIdX)

11 Not Sponge

Posted by: Mister Ghost at August 31, 2023 04:18 PM (TGPs7)

12 Ooh, here's a topic we can all join hands on.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 31, 2023 04:18 PM (bhRsz)

13 "The Obama marriage is the best marriage!"
-DU, definitely

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at August 31, 2023 04:18 PM (LvTSG)

14 I'd like to know whether the Chef at Obama's other mansion saw something he shouldn't have or just turned Barry down, which cost him his life.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 31, 2023 04:18 PM (mZ3xv)

15 Why is this just now coming out? Larry Sinclair has been saying this for about what? A decade??

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 31, 2023 04:19 PM (tQL7r)

16
YouTube is currently protecting you from the video asking about the chef enjoying free run of the Martha's Vineyard place before the "accident".

You're welcome.

Posted by: Auspex at August 31, 2023 04:19 PM (j4U/Z)

17
"That Barack Obama Enjoyed Crack of Both the Powdered and Male Posterior Varities"

Was it Big Mike's crack and pipe he indulgenced in?

Posted by: Potato Of The United States at August 31, 2023 04:19 PM (t6XCL)

18 Them purple lips ain't cause he's healthy.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 31, 2023 04:19 PM (UK6no)

19

Looking around at the shambles that was America, it now makes perfect sense that Obama was/is a homo crack addict.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 31, 2023 04:20 PM (x0n13)

20 No one gets into trouble for lying, only for telling the truth.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

Yep. You are correct

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 31, 2023 04:20 PM (tQL7r)

21 The press lied and covered for gay Barry Obumbles? No. I shan't believe this. I simply shannot!

Posted by: No Shirt Shylock at August 31, 2023 04:20 PM (PWI4f)

22 Ooh, here's a topic we can all join hands on.
Posted by: Dr. T

I ain't touchin' no one's dirty mitts here. Y'all got cooties and stuff.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2023 04:20 PM (IG4Id)

23 Tucker's preaching to the choir.

Posted by: kathysaysso at August 31, 2023 04:20 PM (yACxx)

24 15 Why is this just now coming out? Larry Sinclair has been saying this for about what? A decade??
Posted by: Prime Sister at August 31, 2023 04:19 PM (tQL7r)

It's not coming out now. It came out in 2008, but was ignored by the media.

And it continues to be ignored by the media.

Multiple people came forward saying they knew Barry from the Chicago bath house scene.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:20 PM (mj0Qp)

25 I remember Larry Sinclair, as well as Larry Johnson who had the No Quarter blog and all the PUMAs

Posted by: kallisto, at August 31, 2023 04:20 PM (8ON7U)

26 When a career grifter came straight out of prison and demanded that Matt Gaetz pay him or he'd slander Gaetz in the press the press...ran his claims as true.

They only stopped when the grifter was sent back to jail - and still sort of pretends the claims were true.

Compare that to the coverage of Obama and Sinclair.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2023 04:20 PM (lc5cP)

27 So Barry liked crack. In all shapes and sizes.

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at August 31, 2023 04:20 PM (VMFAF)

28 Them purple lips ain't cause he's healthy.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

* rebooting *

Posted by: Sen. Mconnell at August 31, 2023 04:21 PM (IG4Id)

29 Breaking News from 15 years ago

Posted by: DB - now with ClimbAction Traction at August 31, 2023 04:21 PM (geLO8)

30 Maybe the bitch set him up

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 31, 2023 04:21 PM (z+89e)

31 15 Why is this just now coming out?

I see what you did there.

Denying Mootch a royal promotion would be the conspiracists view.

Posted by: Auspex at August 31, 2023 04:21 PM (j4U/Z)

32 If Big Mike is a dude playing a chick, then Barry is the ghey.

Question is, who carried the kids to term?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 31, 2023 04:21 PM (6VKyY)

33 Barack the Magic Negro lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's not authentic like me.
Yeah, the guy from the L.A. paper
Said he makes guilty whites feel good
They'll vote for him, and not for me
'Cause he's not from the hood.

Posted by: Al Sharpton, MSNBC Rayciss Warlord at August 31, 2023 04:21 PM (iw4IE)

34 We're seeing a lot of the ghey with Obama lately.
I honestly wonder what it signifies?

Posted by: Mister Ghost at August 31, 2023 04:21 PM (TGPs7)

35 21 I simply shannot!

shallots > shannot

Posted by: anachronda at August 31, 2023 04:21 PM (oY6Yp)

36 First off, fantastic tribute to Justice Thomas on todays podcast. An intellectual giant, now being relentlessly attacked (a high tech lynching) by the marxist Propaganda press.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 31, 2023 04:21 PM (YG3wp)

37 Ooh, here's a topic we can all join hands on.
Posted by: Dr. T

Hah, let's not go that far

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 31, 2023 04:22 PM (tQL7r)

38 I'm not sure what's to be gained by putting this front and center though. At best, it's old news. The media protects Dems. Water is wet.

Posted by: SMFH at August 31, 2023 04:22 PM (vGZLX)

39 Tucker's preaching to the choir.

the choir's expanding though, adding new members every day

Posted by: kallisto, at August 31, 2023 04:22 PM (8ON7U)

40 But I'm so, so tired of The Regime dictating to us what we can say and what we can hear and read. Even when Tucker is wrong, which I find he frequently is, he is still expanding the range of opinions we are permitted to have and to simply hear from others.

Posted by Ace at 05:15 PM Comments

So...second look at Alex Jones?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2023 04:22 PM (/iWhV)

41 Next you'll be telling me that Stacy Abrams is fat.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 31, 2023 04:22 PM (FVME7)

42 For the record I am not gay. The man I asked to roger me in vigorously in this men's only club and who is currently on top of me probably is though.

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 31, 2023 04:22 PM (lc5cP)

43 Barky was a pot head as a teenager, he didn't give it up like most pot heads do.

Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2023 04:22 PM (MOY79)

44 38 I'm not sure what's to be gained by putting this front and center though. At best, it's old news. The media protects Dems. Water is wet.

Posted by: SMFH at August 31, 2023 04:22 PM (vGZLX)

Agreed. It's pretty irrelevant whether or not Barack bangs dudes and smokes crack at this point.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:22 PM (mj0Qp)

45 >>> Ooh, here's a topic we can all join hands on.
Posted by: Dr. T

that's what I was hoping for. I was finishing a different post but saw this one and thought, "This is a HEALING post."

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:23 PM (KRtlO)

46 I'm sorry, where are all the posts about when Tucker Carlson is "frequently wrong" ??

Am I really supposed to read that and ignore that I rarely, if ever, see any such thing ?

Posted by: deadrody at August 31, 2023 04:23 PM (YSD70)

47 I should have put quotation marks around my previous post because Tucker said that at his TPA speech, possibly the most profound thing in the speech.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 31, 2023 04:23 PM (MeG8a)

48 It's not coming out now. It came out in 2008, but was ignored by the media.

And it continues to be ignored by the media.

Multiple people came forward saying they knew Barry from the Chicago bath house scene.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Well, right. That's what I mean. It's mainstream now that Tucker said it.

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 31, 2023 04:23 PM (tQL7r)

49 > I'd like to know whether the Chef at Obama's other mansion saw something he shouldn't have or just turned Barry down, which cost him his life.

My guess is they found out he was writing a tell all book. Nothing in the book was especially damning, but the Obamas were furious he dared do it.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 31, 2023 04:24 PM (0N1h0)

50 Hahahhhahhahahahhhha

Posted by: Mr pink at August 31, 2023 04:24 PM (iOtak)

51 Hey what was it about Trump that energized all those Democrat voters anyway. Was it the economic prosperity, the lack of wars, the low taxes, the strong foreign policy and border...

Oh right it was mail-in ballots. Fuckin DeSantis will do better with mail-in ballots.

Posted by: ... at August 31, 2023 04:24 PM (vHpAx)

52 I don't agree with Tucker all the time either. But I think he's thoughtful, honest, and sincere. That's all I'm looking for, and it's surprisingly rare to find.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at August 31, 2023 04:24 PM (YQ4mh)

53 Who killed the naked Tafari Campbell?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 31, 2023 04:24 PM (YG3wp)

54 I'm confused as to why they felt the need to give us Tucker's age.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 31, 2023 04:24 PM (DRSnL)

55 BREAKING NEWS

Reagan Wins Re-Election In Landslide Victory

Posted by: DB - now with ClimbAction Traction at August 31, 2023 04:24 PM (geLO8)

56 Posted by Ace at 05:15 PM Comments

So...second look at Alex Jones?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2023 04:22 PM (/iWhV)

They're turning the fricking Presidents gay!

Posted by: Alex Jones, now one BILLION dollars in debt at August 31, 2023 04:24 PM (mj0Qp)

57 Someone should commission a nice bronze statue of Preezy Fruity Booty smashing Sinclair whilst a crackpipe dangles from his mouth. Put in next to the Lincoln Memorial.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 31, 2023 04:24 PM (ppBhU)

58 My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 31, 2023 04:24 PM (fKIdX)

59 I didn't have sex with that woman ♀️👠. Nope not even once.

Posted by: Bill Clintoon at August 31, 2023 04:24 PM (hFPXl)

60 Buncha losers fighting in the old thread.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority
.......

I tried to cheer them up with some bad Ramasalami jokes but it didn't work.

Posted by: wth at August 31, 2023 04:25 PM (v0R5T)

61 Obama is definitely a bottom.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 31, 2023 04:25 PM (ga8qR)

62 So...second look at Alex Jones?

The evolution the left's view of Jones is pretty instructive.

Back when Jones was known primarily as an opponent of the WoT they LOVED him. In fact they cast him, as himself, in Through a Scanner Darkly https://youtu.be/bliFkRnN6e4?si=DrbgfrtKLcMEf1Ww

But a few years later and no one cared about the WoT anymore and Jones kept saying things the government didn't want said...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2023 04:25 PM (lc5cP)

63 It's not coming out now. It came out in 2008, but was ignored by the media.

And it continues to be ignored by the media.

Multiple people came forward saying they knew Barry from the Chicago bath house scene.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:20 PM (mj0Qp)

This is true. I remember having discussions on this during Barky's first prez campaign.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 31, 2023 04:25 PM (BdMk6)

64 that's what I was hoping for. I was finishing a different post but saw this one and thought, "This is a HEALING post."
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:23 PM (KRtlO)

"Healing"? What's that like?

Posted by: Barky's Rectum at August 31, 2023 04:25 PM (bhRsz)

65 For the record I am not gay. The man I asked to roger me in vigorously in this men's only club and who is currently on top of me probably is though.
Posted by: Barack Obama

A smartass friend of my parents used to say he wasn't married but his wife was. Pissed my mother off.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 31, 2023 04:26 PM (FVME7)

66 Well, right. That's what I mean. It's mainstream now that Tucker said it.
Posted by: Prime Sister at August 31, 2023 04:23 PM (tQL7r)

People with much larger audiences than Tucker reported on it in 2008, and it never "went mainstream."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:26 PM (mj0Qp)

67 Wow..... Big Mike is gonna have words with the Sage from Pinetree Land, just up the road a ways.

The followers of Teh Lightbringer are not gonna take this on their knees....

Posted by: Pinochet Air Flight Attendant at August 31, 2023 04:26 PM (zL/eJ)

68 This just in:

Germans Bomb Pearl Harbor

Posted by: DB - now with ClimbAction Traction at August 31, 2023 04:26 PM (geLO8)

69 "This is a HEALING post."

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:23 PM (KRtlO)

https://youtu.be/FUvxRjYqjEQ

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 31, 2023 04:26 PM (+o6KZ)

70 61 Obama is definitely a bottom.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 31, 2023 04:25 PM (ga8qR)

Oh, I bet he spent years pulling his pud in the corner watching before he ever went bottom deck.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 31, 2023 04:26 PM (6VKyY)

71 39 Tucker's preaching to the choir.

the choir's expanding though, adding new members every day
Posted by: kallisto, at August 31, 2023 04:22 PM (8ON7U)

It's all the fried chicken at those church picnics.

Fatarses.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 31, 2023 04:26 PM (ppBhU)

72 "The Obama marriage is the best marriage!"
-DU, definitely
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at August 31, 2023 04:18 PM (LvTSG)

Remember all of the gushing articles about how the Obama love story was one for the ages? "Ooo, their first date was here, he proposed to her there, etc." Those should have come with a sick bag.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 31, 2023 04:26 PM (6xRrr)

73 But it isn't just on Larry Sinclair's say-so. It's also based on his opening pitch at the White Sox game and the way he shoots a basketball.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at August 31, 2023 04:26 PM (3vCGB)

74 Obama's the most obviously gay man ever to hold political office. I mean, that famous picture of him wearing mom jeans and riding a women's bicycle.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 31, 2023 04:26 PM (2ocoG)

75 that's what I was hoping for. I was finishing a different post but saw this one and thought, "This is a HEALING post."
Posted by: ace

Snort

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 31, 2023 04:26 PM (tQL7r)

76 So was he the pitcher or the catcher?

Posted by: torabora at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (hFPXl)

77 He will come out when it is most politically advantageous just like he did with gay marriage.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (mhgZs)

78 Who killed the naked Tafari Campbell?

Its like a game of clue...

Hillary killed Mr Body with the revolver in the park

Bill killed Mr Body with the rope in the prison cell

Barry killed Mr Body with the paddleboard in the pond

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (lc5cP)

79 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (T4tVD)

80 Barack and I would love to announce he's gay, Michelle is trans, etc; but it's too many wasted historic firsts at this point. He got to be the first Black president, and we want the next several to be historic, too, so keeping gay and trans boxes open and available is a big deal for now.

2020 looked so promising, with Buttigieg and Kamala, but they sucked SO hard, we had to get an old White guy to beat Bernie in the primaries...that guy is supposed to be a shiny object to keep the dumb lefty kids interested, not a serious contender for party power!

Posted by: Dem Political Strategy Planner at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (JCZqz)

81 >>>So...second look at Alex Jones?

kind of, yeah. I used to be very speech-patrolling myself. I was a good GOP Establishment Snobcunt and tried to make sure no one was promoting "conspiracy theories."

I have repented of that sin. Now that I know that literally everything the left doesn't like is a "conspiracy theory," and that most conspiracy theories are 100% true.

Now I'm happy to have dissidents, even people who might be a little wack-a-doodle. Or appear to be wack-a-doodle based on currently known (or "known") facts.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (KRtlO)

82 76 So was he the pitcher or the catcher?
Posted by: torabora at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (hFPXl)

The old stories were that he was a catcher.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (mj0Qp)

83 Remember, Smoking crack and preferring men makes Obama one of the least perverted of the uniparty.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (fjEsA)

84 Obama's the most obviously gay man ever to hold political office. I mean, that famous picture of him wearing mom jeans and riding a women's bicycle.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 31, 2023 04:26 PM (2ocoG)

And sharp creases on his pants.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (eoQWY)

85 > Multiple people came forward saying they knew Barry from the Chicago bath house scene.

Did they? They way I always heard it, "everyone knew" Obama visited Chicago's gayest bath houses. Everyone being defined as the gay people of Chicago. As a straight male from the PNW, I had absolutely no way of knowing if this information was true or not.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (0N1h0)

86 Tucker is suicidal it seems.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (oWBc3)

87 Remember, Smoking crack and preferring men makes Obama one of the least perverted of the uniparty.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (fjEsA)

makes him controllable.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 04:28 PM (eoQWY)

88 74 Obama's the most obviously gay man ever to hold political office. I mean, that famous picture of him wearing mom jeans and riding a women's bicycle.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 31, 2023 04:26 PM (2ocoG

Any man that throws a baseball like he did is gayer than Liberace on open night mic at the Pink Pony.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 31, 2023 04:28 PM (6VKyY)

89 Look how can I have sex with men if I am married to such a beautiful woman? I mean she's got enough penis for the both of us anyway.

Posted by: President Lightbringer at August 31, 2023 04:28 PM (lc5cP)

90 The guy with zip-up Mom jeans and a girls bicycle helmet?
No way!

Posted by: wth at August 31, 2023 04:28 PM (v0R5T)

91 53 Who killed the naked Tafari Campbell?

colonel mustard in the conservatory with the candlestick?

Posted by: anachronda at August 31, 2023 04:28 PM (oY6Yp)

92 No wonder Michelle always has that pissed off look on her face.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 31, 2023 04:29 PM (NpAcC)

93 For the record I am not gay. The man I asked to roger me in vigorously in this men's only club and who is currently on top of me probably is though.
Posted by: Barack Obama

I would like to further add that I am not addicted to cock; I just like the way it tastes.

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 31, 2023 04:29 PM (KRtlO)

94 shallots > shannot
Posted by: anachronda

Piling the memes in furrows airy
Beneath the goon, the freeper weary
Listing vessels, ' Tis the spoiler,
Lady of Shannot

Posted by: Sen. Mconnell at August 31, 2023 04:29 PM (IG4Id)

95 81 Now I'm happy to have dissidents, even people who might be a little wack-a-doodle. Or appear to be wack-a-doodle based on currently known (or "known") facts.
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (KRtlO)

==========

Hamsters are lizard people drones!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at August 31, 2023 04:29 PM (LvTSG)

96 kind of, yeah. I used to be very speech-patrolling myself. I was a good GOP Establishment Snobcunt and tried to make sure no one was promoting "conspiracy theories."

Conspiracy theory is just another term for a spoiler.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2023 04:29 PM (lc5cP)

97 Well he’s been fucking his “wife” Mike for years. Of course he’s ghey.

Posted by: Montec at August 31, 2023 04:29 PM (a2ndm)

98 Obama's the most obviously gay man ever to hold political office. I mean, that famous picture of him wearing mom jeans and riding a women's bicycle.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 31, 2023 04:26 PM (2ocoG

Any man that throws a baseball like he did is gayer than Liberace on open night mic at the Pink Pony.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 31, 2023 04:28 PM (6VKyY)

=====

Wasn't there a picture in the sidebar of him having a gay-ass slapfight with Richard Branson? They looked about 30 seconds away from making out.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 31, 2023 04:29 PM (DRSnL)

99 Multiple people came forward saying they knew Barry from the Chicago bath house scene.

The blog "Hillbuzz" (Chicago gays who were fans of Hillary, LOL) said Bathhouse Barry was common knowledge in Chicago and everyone had seen him out tasting penis.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 31, 2023 04:29 PM (2ocoG)

100 kind of, yeah. I used to be very speech-patrolling myself. I was a good GOP Establishment Snobcunt and tried to make sure no one was promoting "conspiracy theories."

I have repented of that sin.
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (KRtlO)

I think you should do an apology thread, apologizing for all of the mean things you said during the revolution that was the 2008 Ron Paul campaign.

Nah, just kidding -- BUT I am glad that it seems like more of a safe space here then it was during the reLOVEution.

Because you guys were not very nice to the paulbots, many of whom were well meaning. It was a more innocent time in internet blog comment sections back then.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:30 PM (mj0Qp)

101 I mean she's got enough penis for the both of us anyway.

Posted by: President Lightbringer at August 31, 2023 04:28 PM (lc5cP)

And the opposite for the Clintons.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 31, 2023 04:30 PM (+o6KZ)

102 Cock > Bud light

Posted by: Barack H Obama at August 31, 2023 04:30 PM (lc5cP)

103 Obama's the most obviously gay man ever to hold political office. I mean, that famous picture of him wearing mom jeans and riding a women's bicycle.

my buddy saw him campaigning on 9th St. in Philly (the Italian Market), he didn't even know who he was. it was 2007. He relates seeing a crowd forming around this "well dressed gay man who walked like a bottom, "

lol

Posted by: kallisto, at August 31, 2023 04:30 PM (8ON7U)

104 Forget Barry Obama, when is Barry Manilow coming out? Oh wait....

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 31, 2023 04:30 PM (oWBc3)

105 Now I'm happy to have dissidents, even people who might be a little wack-a-doodle. Or appear to be wack-a-doodle based on currently known (or "known") facts.
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (KRtlO)

It's quite enjoyable out here on the bleeding edge of whack-a-doodle-dom.

It's fun. Give it a little try.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 04:31 PM (Fe/X4)

106 They're turning the fricking Presidents gay!

-

I never listened to him, but he was right about the frogs the same way everyone made fun of Trump's "he said to drink bleach" attacks, wasn't he?

Didn't the chemical make male frogs become less masculine and some began growing ovaries?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 31, 2023 04:31 PM (UK6no)

107 He will come out when it is most politically advantageous just like he did with gay marriage.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 31, 2023 04:31 PM (tQL7r)

108 > Obama's the most obviously gay man ever to hold political office. I mean, that famous picture of him wearing mom jeans and riding a women's bicycle.

Dude, that's like a 1 out of 10 on the scale of the gayest pictures of Obama.

Have a look at Obama's cover picture on In Style magazine.

https://is.gd/eRhwcF

Posted by: bonhomme at August 31, 2023 04:31 PM (0N1h0)

109 Did anyone else read "Hillbuzz" back in the day? Pretty sure he talked about Chicago bath houses. As a gay man in Chicago he knew.

Posted by: Iris at August 31, 2023 04:31 PM (NaH5I)

110 This thread is totally one sided. See if this helps (mildly NSFW, jiggly):

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/

TDqY8T2199g

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 31, 2023 04:31 PM (z+89e)

111 Did they? They way I always heard it, "everyone knew" Obama visited Chicago's gayest bath houses. Everyone being defined as the gay people of Chicago. As a straight male from the PNW, I had absolutely no way of knowing if this information was true or not.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (0N1h0)

Well, that's fair -- a few individual came forward and said "I had sex with Barry Obama," but most of it was as you say more of a "EVERYONE KNOWS" without those everyones coming forward and putting their names on it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:31 PM (mj0Qp)

112 Whose whack a doodle?

I'm not whack a doodle but y'all might be.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 31, 2023 04:31 PM (6VKyY)

113 My only rebuttal against this is why not be out and proud with it? Being the first gay prezzy on top of the first black prezzy? Dude that’s like a separate Mt.Rushmore just for you.

Posted by: Montec at August 31, 2023 04:32 PM (a2ndm)

114 >>No wonder Michelle always has that pissed off look on her face.

Have you SEEN the price of DickTape these days!?

Posted by: MicheleObama'sLandingStrip at August 31, 2023 04:32 PM (c4O5y)

115 Obama is definitely a bottom.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 31, 2023 04:25 PM (ga8qR)
......

Except when he's with Trudeau, then they have to flip for it.

Posted by: wth at August 31, 2023 04:32 PM (v0R5T)

116 Because you guys were not very nice to the paulbots, many of whom were well meaning. It was a more innocent time in internet blog comment sections back then.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:30 PM (mj0Qp)

You don't have to be nice to conspiracists - you are just helping them improve their presentation if you point out flaws in the narrative.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 04:32 PM (eoQWY)

117 I don't recognize the names in the previous posting, nor do do I view Trump or DeSantis as the ones destroying my beloved country.

Let's focus on the the real enemies within. Smoking crack and cock are no longer deal breakers in today's parody of America.

It will probably be viewed as net positives, tooday, and they're preparing to breach the final wall on children in a couple more years.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 31, 2023 04:32 PM (nnp+f)

118 81 >>>So...second look at Alex Jones?

kind of, yeah. I used to be very speech-patrolling myself. I was a good GOP Establishment Snobcunt and tried to make sure no one was promoting "conspiracy theories."

I have repented of that sin. Now that I know that literally everything the left doesn't like is a "conspiracy theory," and that most conspiracy theories are 100% true.

Now I'm happy to have dissidents, even people who might be a little wack-a-doodle. Or appear to be wack-a-doodle based on currently known (or "known") facts.
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM (KRtlO)

Same here. Our movement held up WFB as our exemplar because he purged the Birchers from the Party way back when. Our mistake was thinking that strategy was applicable to the present day. WFB operated in a world that doesn't exist anymore.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2023 04:32 PM (/iWhV)

119 The Afternoon Arterton is disappointed that her flash of back isn't Obama's style:

https://is.gd/CE7fDY

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at August 31, 2023 04:32 PM (LvTSG)

120 Avenge me!

Posted by: Zombie Joan Rivers at August 31, 2023 04:32 PM (c4O5y)

121

Joan Rivers was murdered for saying Barry O'Polesmoker was on the down low, which in black languages means he's a homo but pretending to be straight, like Michael Strahan and that weird dude Andrew Jilliums.

I think this behavior is more widespread than people think.

Where's Andi Sullivan to tell us if he wants to have Obama.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at August 31, 2023 04:33 PM (UCNv1)

122 83 Remember, Smoking crack and preferring men makes Obama one of the least perverted of the uniparty.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 31, 2023 04:27 PM

I was just trying to follow the lead of America's greatest president!!!

Posted by: Andrew Gillum at August 31, 2023 04:33 PM (JCZqz)

123 Have a look at Obama's cover picture on In Style magazine.

https://is.gd/eRhwcF

Posted by: bonhomme at August 31, 2023 04:31 PM (0N1h0)

I don't see gay, I see smug.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 31, 2023 04:33 PM (lQONO)

124 that's what I was hoping for. I was finishing a different post but saw this one and thought, "This is a HEALING post."
Posted by: ace

You're such a giver, Ace.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 31, 2023 04:33 PM (BdMk6)

125 Have a look at Obama's cover picture on In Style magazine.

https://is.gd/eRhwcF
Posted by: bonhomme at August 31, 2023 04:31 PM (0N1h0)

=====

He looks stoned AF.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 31, 2023 04:33 PM (DRSnL)

126 The blog "Hillbuzz" (Chicago gays who were fans of Hillary, LOL) said Bathhouse Barry was common knowledge in Chicago and everyone had seen him out tasting penis.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 31, 2023 04:29 PM (2ocoG)

Yup. His particular kink, if I remember correctly, was having older, white men service him.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 31, 2023 04:34 PM (6xRrr)

127 Ace, I'm genuinely curious (no, that's not what I mean). You made a point not once but twice in the post to say that you disagree with Tucker on a lot. What are some of the things you disagree on?

I think he's the most articulate weapon we have. And most effective, too. Which is why he's off the air.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 31, 2023 04:34 PM (bNf8H)

128
In 2008, the media was too busy trying to inspect Sarah Palin's Vagina to see if she was the one who really birthed her baby.

Posted by: portlandon at August 31, 2023 04:34 PM (+oR7L)

129 I never listened to him, but he was right about the frogs the same way everyone made fun of Trump's "he said to drink bleach" attacks, wasn't he?

Didn't the chemical make male frogs become less masculine and some began growing ovaries?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 31, 2023 04:31 PM (UK6no)

Eh, yeah, I guess I can say it -- Alex Jones is / was actually right about a lot of things.

But he's also a complete nut.

As far as the gay frogs -- yeah sort of, he was reading from an actual scientific study about a pesticide sprayed on the food we all eat that when the runoff ended up in water, it caused the frogs to be hermaphrodites or to even switch genders (frogs can be transgendered).

But it was funny because he's reading a scientific paper about male frogs growing female sex organs, and he lost his shit and went on his famous "THEYRE TURNING THE FRICKING FROGS GAY!" rant

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:34 PM (mj0Qp)

130 113 My only rebuttal against this is why not be out and proud with it? Being the first gay prezzy on top of the first black prezzy? Dude that’s like a separate Mt.Rushmore just for you.

Posted by: Montec at August 31, 2023 04:32 PM (a2ndm)

When he was in office, it was still something that the Dems weren’t sure wouldn’t hurt his election chances.

Now that he’s not in office any more, the Dems need to reserve the Historic First Gay president for another election. Barry can’t hog both the first black president and first gay one,

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 31, 2023 04:34 PM (fKIdX)

131 Our mistake was thinking that strategy was applicable to the present day. WFB operated in a world that doesn't exist anymore.

There is a long, long distance between 60s Democrats like Daniel Patrick Moynahan and JFK and the likes of Chuck Schumer and Adam Schiff.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 31, 2023 04:34 PM (2ocoG)

132 I never listened to him, but he was right about the frogs the same way everyone made fun of Trump's "he said to drink bleach" attacks, wasn't he?

Didn't the chemical make male frogs become less masculine and some began growing ovaries?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 31, 2023 04:31 PM (UK6no)

I think the story is that the chemicals made frogs that can naturally change sex, change sex from M->F. This being Gay is an error, but a better tag line.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 04:34 PM (eoQWY)

133 This thread is totally one sided. See if this helps (mildly NSFW, jiggly):

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/

TDqY8T2199g
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 31, 2023 04:31 PM (z+89e)

Wholesome. Thank you.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 04:34 PM (Fe/X4)

134 I will wait for America's Paper of Record, The Babylon Bee, to weigh in on whether Obama smoked crack and engaged in the Love that Won't Shut The Hell Up is true or not.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at August 31, 2023 04:34 PM (sAmhv)

135 So Bill was the first heterosexual black president and B. Hussein still found a way to be a historic first.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at August 31, 2023 04:35 PM (OZjDX)

136 Breaking News from 15 years ago
Posted by: DB - now with ClimbAction Traction at August 31, 2023 04:21 PM (geLO

That.

Best three podcasts to listen to:

Politics- Fearless with Jason Whitlock
Crime- Generation Why
Sports- Bill Simmons

Posted by: JmT at August 31, 2023 04:35 PM (Dgr0A)

137 Wow.... Barry's closet ghey

What's next, Biden is MENSA? Pelosi a Rhodes Scholar? The Turtle pinning for his adrenochrome fix?

Posted by: Pinochet Air Flight Attendant at August 31, 2023 04:35 PM (zL/eJ)

138 First!

(Is that joke dead? I think it’s dead.)

Posted by: MaxMBJ at August 31, 2023 04:35 PM (cuS3i)

139 Yup. His particular kink, if I remember correctly, was having older, white men service him.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 31, 2023 04:34 PM

--------

This is true.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 31, 2023 04:35 PM (+oR7L)

140 Tucker Carlson has claimed Barack Obama was smoking crack and having sex with men - but the media failed to report it ahead of the 2008 presidential election.
________

Shouldn't we be celebrating his butt-f*cking? It's almost as righteous as being trans.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 31, 2023 04:35 PM (brAQZ)

141 I thought he was only half Cracker?? Although more Arab than not maybe.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 31, 2023 04:35 PM (krqg6)

142 Moynahan was a scumbag, too.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2023 04:35 PM (c4O5y)

143 Did anyone else read "Hillbuzz" back in the day? Pretty sure he talked about Chicago bath houses. As a gay man in Chicago he knew.
Posted by: Iris at August 31, 2023 04:31 PM (NaH5I)
******
I do.
Wonder whatever happened to Kevin DuJan?

Posted by: redridinghood at August 31, 2023 04:35 PM (NpAcC)

144 I'm really tired of gay men who have a sham marriage and cheat on their wives with men. (and no, I'm not crazy about men cheating with other women either) It's 2023, and Obama can't admit he's gay?. We're not even talking about 15 years ago. Now you practically get an award if you admit it. Obama is incredibly wealthy. What's the big deal?t; It's not as if he's going to be President again.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2023 04:35 PM (RSbhh)

145 But it was funny because he's reading a scientific paper about male frogs growing female sex organs, and he lost his shit and went on his famous "THEYRE TURNING THE FRICKING FROGS GAY!" rant
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:34 PM (mj0Qp)

America's funniest man. Hands down.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 04:36 PM (Fe/X4)

146 To be fair... bathhouse barry was a real thing. Too bad Trump didn't run that year it'd have taken root...

Posted by: Inogame at August 31, 2023 04:36 PM (53oGX)

147 Back in the 2010s a gay commentator from the Chicago scene used to call Obama "Bath House Barry"

Posted by: James at August 31, 2023 04:36 PM (j6mgy)

148 This has become the sine qua non of the Democratic Party. To suppress information that is verifiably true, in order to protect political viability of their candidates. It's also another signal a free press is dead and doesn't have a single courageous denizen.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 31, 2023 04:36 PM (/Mfdi)

149 >>>Obama's the most obviously gay man ever to hold political office. I mean, that famous picture of him wearing mom jeans and riding a women's bicycle.

Objection. Being carelessly, thoughtlessly unfashionable is a very straight thing, not a gay thing.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:36 PM (KRtlO)

150
Barry Soetoro loved him some man love.

Posted by: portlandon at August 31, 2023 04:36 PM (+oR7L)

151 at least that's what i tell myself

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:36 PM (KRtlO)

152 Posted by: Iris at August 31, 2023 04:31 PM (NaH5I)

I thought it was "Gay Patriot" who talked about it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2023 04:36 PM (RSbhh)

153 Same here. Our movement held up WFB as our exemplar because he purged the Birchers from the Party way back when. Our mistake was thinking that strategy was applicable to the present day. WFB operated in a world that doesn't exist anymore.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2023 04:32 PM (/iWhV)

Yeah, Buckley was 1000% wrong in anointing himself king of conservatives and deciding who should get a seat at the table and who shouldnt.

He even hired a commie who compared Ayn Rand's message in Atlas Shrugged to the Holocaust.

Frankly makes me kind of despise the guy.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:37 PM (mj0Qp)

154 @117, I wonder if the approach on children will be the final moment of reckoning? What are "die for" beliefs these days I wonder?

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 31, 2023 04:37 PM (oWBc3)

155 They are in up in arms about Tucker. Labeling him "Putin's ally Tucker Carson".

Posted by: runner at August 31, 2023 04:37 PM (idBr5)

156 The real tragedy here is that all that sexy sasquatch is wasted on this gay feller.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 31, 2023 04:37 PM (ppBhU)

157 Because you guys were not very nice to the paulbots, many of whom were well meaning. It was a more innocent time in internet blog comment sections back then.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

No way. What is pumps calling the hand bag beige for $200, Alex

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 31, 2023 04:37 PM (tQL7r)

158 Nobody reported it not because they were squeamish about sex or drugs but because...

Because it was their job. They're not reporters.

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2023 04:37 PM (d7sC9)

159 GA governor Kemp just now killed all attempts to remove Fani Willis.
Deeds speak louder than words.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 31, 2023 04:37 PM (MeG8a)

160 Moynahan was a scumbag, too.
Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2023 04:35 PM (c4O5y)

Didn't know that. Any examples?

Posted by: JmT at August 31, 2023 04:38 PM (Dgr0A)

161 Frankly makes me kind of despise the guy.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:37 PM (mj0Qp)

He was Project Mockingbird. CIA all the way.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 04:38 PM (Fe/X4)

162 This picture of 0bama is kinda gay

https://tinyurl.com/2u6k3y6s

Posted by: DB - now with ClimbAction Traction at August 31, 2023 04:38 PM (geLO8)

163 > I don't see gay, I see smug.

He's a millisecond away from launching into a tearful rendition of, "I AM WHAT I AM."

Posted by: bonhomme at August 31, 2023 04:38 PM (0N1h0)

164 Wonder whatever happened to Kevin DuJan?
Posted by: redridinghood at August 31, 2023 04:35 PM (NpAcC)

I think he peaked when he was quoted in the WashPost style section as an organizer for support for Sarah Palin's daughter on "Dancing with the Stars". (I even had a IRL paper back then). He was very happy that he was getting enough votes to keep her in.

Posted by: Iris at August 31, 2023 04:39 PM (NaH5I)

165 This thread is totally one sided. See if this helps (mildly NSFW, jiggly):

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/

TDqY8T2199g
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 31, 2023 04:31 PM (z+89e)

Wholesome. Thank you.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 04:34 PM (Fe/X4)

A couple of entries down (after the Beez Girl) there was an Austrailan clip of a kid telling this joke:

A vegan and a vegetarian were having a competition to see how falls faster after jumping off a cliff. Who wins?

Answer: Society.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 04:39 PM (eoQWY)

166 144 I'm really tired of gay men who have a sham marriage and cheat on their wives with men. (and no, I'm not crazy about men cheating with other women either) It's 2023, and Obama can't admit he's gay?. We're not even talking about 15 years ago. Now you practically get an award if you admit it. Obama is incredibly wealthy. What's the big deal?t; It's not as if he's going to be President again.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2023 04:35 PM (RSbhh)

No, but if true, he wouldn't want to poison the well for any other Obama to step forward. If true.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2023 04:39 PM (/iWhV)

167 His particular kink, if I remember correctly, was having older, white men service him.

That was also Larry Sinclair. Who also said that Obama had been serviced by Mitch McConnell.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 31, 2023 04:39 PM (2ocoG)

168 124 that's what I was hoping for. I was finishing a different post but saw this one and thought, "This is a HEALING post."
Posted by: ace

You're such a giver, Ace.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 31, 2023 04:33 PM

A giver, you say? Say, I have an opening for a personal chef with benefits, if you know what I mean. How do you feel about naked paddle boarding on a private lake...y'know, a little watersports 😉 😜 🍆 💦

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 31, 2023 04:39 PM (JCZqz)

169 I ATE NOTHING
NOTHING

Posted by: wth at August 31, 2023 04:39 PM (v0R5T)

170 The CIA was behind the refutation of the Hunter laptop.

If the agent behind that act was a member of clandestine services, would revealing s/he's name be a violation of the federal law protecting a spy's identity?

Posted by: goatweed at August 31, 2023 04:39 PM (0Q/6W)

171 Barry Soetoro loved him some man love.

Past tense? His chef was found some distance from his clothing.

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2023 04:40 PM (aJ58s)

172 I honestly don't care if he's gay. It's Obama's choice. I find it more insidious the MSM in collusion with the Democrats hid it from the public view. Homosexuality is my destroy the republic. Arrogant, self serving, mendacious politicians and their Vichy media, will.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 31, 2023 04:40 PM (/Mfdi)

173
Obama wins the White House.
Kal Penn gets hired by White House.
Kal Penn comes out as The Gey.

Hmmmm.

Posted by: portlandon at August 31, 2023 04:40 PM (+oR7L)

174 Let he who has never smoked crack and been buttfucked by a felon cast the first stone!
----------
[drops large stone; casually hops away]

Posted by: gay frog at August 31, 2023 04:40 PM (krqg6)

175 The Afternoon Arterton is disappointed that her flash of back isn't Obama's style:

https://is.gd/CE7fDY
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at August 31, 2023 04:32 PM (LvTSG)
=================
My stored picture of arched-back Gemma drinking has been fried, so I look forward to that picture again (hint...hint)

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 31, 2023 04:40 PM (kspHF)

176 We are clearly in the weak men create hard times phase. The only issue is defining weak and hard.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 31, 2023 04:40 PM (oWBc3)

177 152 Posted by: Iris at August 31, 2023 04:31 PM (NaH5I)

I thought it was "Gay Patriot" who talked about it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2023 04:36 PM (RSbhh)

He might have too. I didn't read that blog. Hillbuzz was a huge Sarah Palin fan as was I. I was still a registered Dem at the time...

Posted by: Iris at August 31, 2023 04:41 PM (NaH5I)

178 160 Moynahan was a scumbag, too.
Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2023 04:35 PM (c4O5y)

Didn't know that. Any examples?
Posted by: JmT at August 31, 2023 04:38 PM (Dgr0A)

Daniel Patrick Moynihan talked a great game, but every chance he had to vote the courage of his convictions, he whiffed. He was always a Democrat first.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2023 04:41 PM (/iWhV)

179 Moynahan was a scumbag, too.
Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2023 04:35 PM (c4O5y)

Didn't know that. Any examples?
Posted by: JmT at August 31, 2023 04:38 PM (Dgr0A)

M stood out because he was one of the last Ds left that had even a partly sane foreign policy, and he put the stick about at the UN rather than simper to it.

I'm sure he did plenty to be able to get those gigs in the first place.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 04:41 PM (eoQWY)

180 I would like to see a picture of Mike Obama buck nekkid.

For the record.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 31, 2023 04:41 PM (iw4IE)

181 I honestly don't care if he's gay. It's Obama's choice. I find it more insidious the MSM in collusion with the Democrats hid it from the public view. Homosexuality isn't going to destroy the republic. Arrogant, self serving, mendacious politicians and their Vichy media, will.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 31, 2023 04:41 PM (/Mfdi)

182 I thought it was "Gay Patriot" who talked about it.

No, GP's always been in the South.

GayPatriot was involved in one of the funniest mean stunts of recent memory though. His husband was in a coma for a few days and when they woke him up, he had a fake Time magazine cover stating that Biden had died and Kamala was now the President.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 31, 2023 04:42 PM (2ocoG)

183 But he's also a complete nut.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:34 PM
******
The Sandy Hook conspiracy crap was really awful and unnecessary.

I think this is the stuff that hurts our side
He should have known that.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 31, 2023 04:42 PM (NpAcC)

184 "The CIA was behind the refutation of the Hunter laptop. "

At A. Blinken's instruction. He coordinated that.
It's in the report, you know the one that came out after criminal charges weren't possible anymore. The report where all the guilt was laid bare and no one was charged with anything.
That report.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 31, 2023 04:42 PM (MeG8a)

185 159 GA governor Kemp just now killed all attempts to remove Fani Willis.
Deeds speak louder than words.

-

(cue sisters of mercy "Dominion")

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at August 31, 2023 04:42 PM (t5d6b)

186 Oh, it's true Ace. Your gaydar sucks. That dude choke-sucks all the burritos. It's the taco's he's just pretending to like.

Posted by: Mike Oxlong at August 31, 2023 04:42 PM (dRxzV)

187 Ooh, here's a topic we can all join hands on.
Posted by: Dr. T

*sobs*

Posted by: Michelle at August 31, 2023 04:42 PM (nXhwP)

188 I honestly don't care if he's gay. It's Obama's choice. I find it more insidious the MSM in collusion with the Democrats hid it from the public view. Homosexuality isn't going to destroy the republic. Arrogant, self serving, mendacious politicians and their Vichy media, will.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 31, 2023 04:41 PM (/Mfdi)

*spit shines goog-guy badge*

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 04:43 PM (Fe/X4)

189 WFB was CIA. I suspect he was controlled opposition and a closeted homosexual. His function was to smear and run off American patriots.

Posted by: mr tmz at August 31, 2023 04:43 PM (rJ48h)

190 An intellectual giant, now being relentlessly attacked (a high tech lynching) by the marxist Propaganda press.

I'm terrified he's going to say fuck it and resign. It doesn't seem in his nature but they are relentless.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at August 31, 2023 04:43 PM (iF0sF)

191 I find Tucker to be pretty accurate.... The cow mutilations and UFO not with standing

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2023 04:43 PM (bs+z0)

192 I honestly don't care if he's gay. It's Obama's choice. I find it more insidious the MSM in collusion with the Democrats hid it from the public view.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 31, 2023 04:40 PM (/Mfdi)
================
Exactly. These arrogant Mofo's "curating" our news, ie, lying to America, are all marxist soldiers trying to crack some eggs and make a socialist utopia omelot.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 31, 2023 04:43 PM (kspHF)

193 Posted by: Marcus T at August 31, 2023 04:41 PM (/Mfdi)

I agree with you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2023 04:43 PM (RSbhh)

194 >>>What are some of the things you disagree on?

I can't get behind the Yay Russia position. I know you'll say he's not actually pro-Russia, and I'll say back: If someone were pro-Putin and pro-Russia, what would they say which is different from what Tucker Carlson says?

There's an old saying that there's no more fanatic a teetotaler than a recovering alcholic. or no more fanatic anti-smoker than a former smoker.

I think a lot of people are renouncing their previous unconsidered support for the American security state, and I'm with them on that. But there's a lot of "No more fanatic teetotaler than a former drunk" stuff going on right now, with people flipping 180 degrees from being staunch anti-Soviet/anti-Russia conservatives to now doubting the claims of the American security state so much they think Russia is the good guy.

I. Do. Not.

I understand that when people make a major change in their thinking, going from atheist to a believer or vice versa, they often go to extremes in repudiating their old sinful ways. So this is all understandable as a piece of psychology.

But error remains error. Russia is not good and Putin is not a brave leader fighting for Christians.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:44 PM (KRtlO)

195 I've always believed without the Robinson family & its steady, middle class/working class family persona, he would have never made it big. And her mother was essential protecting the image of her daughter, the grandchildren, and even his arse at the WH.

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemies at August 31, 2023 04:44 PM (GshMh)

196 Despite their pandering, B. Hussein coming out is not something The Party wants due to a certain *ahem* view of homosexuality among one of their most important constituencies. You might even argue a second important constituency that has a habit of making gheys go skydiving without a parachute in certain locations outside the US.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at August 31, 2023 04:44 PM (OZjDX)

197 Past tense? His chef was found some distance from his clothing.

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2023 04:40 PM

No. Barry Soetero was Gay.

Barrack Obama was the heterosexual.

Posted by: portlandon at August 31, 2023 04:44 PM (+oR7L)

198 Late to the discussion...
This is after CNN admitted they were not reporting on the atrocities they knew existed in the Sadam Hussein orbit with his crazy sons acting as enforcers.

The reason they wouldn't report it? They would be denied access.

That's 30 years ago.

Posted by: DanMan at August 31, 2023 04:44 PM (SPSUr)

199 We are clearly in the weak men create hard times phase. The only issue is defining weak and hard.

********

Word, something I ponder over while I have my pumpkin spice latte with pumpkin flavored whip cream

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at August 31, 2023 04:44 PM (VTu1l)

200 Anyone surprised Kemp was on the other team the whole time? Shocked I tell you. The Georgia op makes Redford and Newman look like amateurs. Took years and a lot of effort.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 31, 2023 04:44 PM (oWBc3)

201 >Homosexuality isn't going to destroy the republic. Arrogant, self serving, mendacious politicians and their Vichy media, will.

I don't know
I really don't want a fudgepacker as President

The President should be a man, with a wife and children
call me old-fashioned

Posted by: DB - now with ClimbAction Traction at August 31, 2023 04:44 PM (geLO8)

202 144 I'm really tired of gay men who have a sham marriage and cheat on their wives with men. (and no, I'm not crazy about men cheating with other women either) It's 2023, and Obama can't admit he's gay?. We're not even talking about 15 years ago. Now you practically get an award if you admit it. Obama is incredibly wealthy. What's the big deal?t; It's not as if he's going to be President again.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2023 04:35 PM (RSbhh)

He needs to get that library / mansion built first since once he comes out his street cred in black America goes to 0.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 04:44 PM (eoQWY)

203 How can y'all say Obama is gay after our photo shoot of him pumping iron in the gym?!?!?
https://tinyurl.com/3czh32wu
If 10lbs kickbacks in a tracksuit aren't peak hetero masculinity, nothing is!

Posted by: GQ Magazine at August 31, 2023 04:44 PM (JCZqz)

204 >>>We are clearly in the weak men create hard times phase. The only issue is defining weak and hard.

ooh, I think I know this one!

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 31, 2023 04:45 PM (KRtlO)

205 Ace: when Tucker is wrong, which I find he frequently is....

I disagree

Posted by: Ronster at August 31, 2023 04:45 PM (s0oe6)

206 No. Barry Soetero was Gay.

Barrack Obama was the heterosexual.

And they both suck.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at August 31, 2023 04:45 PM (Bd6X8)

207 Anyone surprised Kemp was on the other team the whole time? Shocked I tell you. The Georgia op makes Redford and Newman look like amateurs. Took years and a lot of effort.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 31, 2023 04:44 PM (oWBc3)

To be fair to Kemp, they did blow'd up a family member's car.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 04:46 PM (Fe/X4)

208
But error remains error. Russia is not good and Putin is not a brave leader fighting for Christians.
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:44 PM (KRtlO)

Yes Putin is very bad.. No hero that's for sure... I have a problem with Zelensky though.. people are dying needlessly in My opinion

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2023 04:46 PM (bs+z0)

209 The reason they wouldn't report it? They would be denied access.

That's 30 years ago.
Posted by: DanMan at August 31, 2023 04:44 PM (SPSUr)

They are lying that's the reason. The real reason is they wanted him to win and they still want to boost his influence because they have the same agenda.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 04:46 PM (eoQWY)

210 Weird how the tone wrt Tucker changed recently. Noticed the same thing across the Townhall sites. Strange.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at August 31, 2023 04:46 PM (xaNfJ)

211 "But is it "obvious" they were true? Or was it obvious in 2008, more importantly?

Nah."

Oh, man, your gadar needs a tune up.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 31, 2023 04:46 PM (SKXSf)

212 The Sandy Hook conspiracy crap was really awful and unnecessary.

I think this is the stuff that hurts our side
He should have known that.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 31, 2023 04:42 PM (NpAcC)

a) he's not on your side (assuming your side is R voter) -- he became famous attacking Trilateral Commission, Bohemian Grove, etc. but REALLY blew up with the "Bush was behind 911" stuff. the left used to love him

b) Eh... he was just askin' questions. It's okay when the MSM does it, but not okay with Alex Jones says "hey, this timing is pretty suspicious. And it's odd how [pointed out dozens of odd things about Sandy Hook]. These people look like crisis actors!" (for example, the dad laughing and joking with the people around him, then when the cameras went live, immediately started crying and talking about gun control, not realizing the feed was up for about 30 seconds before he went in to his shtick. Now I don't think Sandy Hook was fake, but like -- just pointing that out shouldnt be the end of the world.)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:46 PM (mj0Qp)

213 Larry Sinclair's book is available in hardcover on Amazon for just under $1,000

Posted by: Oglebay at August 31, 2023 04:46 PM (ogTiX)

214 concluding my point: The American Security State does seem to be a bad guy too. They certainly seem to rig American elections.

But the fact that they're the bad guys does not make Putin or his KGB-ocracy a good guy.

I still don't understand those who went past "I have no dog in the Ukraine/Russia fight" to the position of actively rooting for a Russian imperial conquest.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:46 PM (KRtlO)

215 I would like to see a picture of Mike Obama buck nekkid.

For the record.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy

*makes sign of the Cross

"Go with God"

Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2023 04:46 PM (iOTJP)

216 149 >>>Obama's the most obviously gay man ever to hold political office. I mean, that famous picture of him wearing mom jeans and riding a women's bicycle.

Objection. Being carelessly, thoughtlessly unfashionable is a very straight thing, not a gay thing.
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:36 PM (KRtlO)
______

Absolutely. At least, that's what my wife tells me. She mostly likes it that my sartorial model is Lt Columbo.

But there were days when she left for work while I was still dressing, and when I got home, she asked "Are you retarded?"

Posted by: Eeyore at August 31, 2023 04:47 PM (brAQZ)

217 Is it plundered and pounced or the other way around?

Posted by: torabora at August 31, 2023 04:47 PM (hFPXl)

218 I'm the same age as Obummer. It was unlikely he was having much gay sex in the 70's -- even in Hawaii. He was in high school. Now, by the time he got to Columbia, he probably was. I was living in NYC about the same time. (I moved there two years after Obummer did.) My roommate had a classmate who was gay, and despite AIDS just starting to tear it's ugly head, this guy's goal was to sleep with as many guys as the number of days he been in New York. New York didn't close the bath houses until the mid-eighties.

Posted by: Someone Else at August 31, 2023 04:47 PM (YPgjG)

219 @194 - Thanks, ace. Understood.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 31, 2023 04:47 PM (bNf8H)

220 Conservatism died right around when Buckley died. But only by coincidence. When Truth, Liberty, Justice, and Tradition got replaced by Pick up trucks, Not-Country music, Mossy Oak, and whining ineffectually and impotently about Democrats.

Conservativism went from being an ideology to being a brand.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 31, 2023 04:47 PM (9UlRk)

221 191 I find Tucker to be pretty accurate.... The cow mutilations and UFO not with standing
Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2023 04:43 PM (bs+z0)

I'm trying to find the video reference, but I do remember Tucker saying recently that he agrees with almost everything RFK Jr. has to say.

Like what Tucker's doing, but that comment alone makes him a non-starter for me with any aspirations higher than being a news and entertainment provider.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2023 04:47 PM (/iWhV)

222 159 GA governor Kemp just now killed all attempts to remove Fani Willis.
Deeds speak louder than words.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
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Watch for Kemp to be a dark horse entry to the primaries if GOPe has their way.

Posted by: whig at August 31, 2023 04:47 PM (L9qbQ)

223 Hot news @TheNewsTrending 1h
Biden: where am I going now 👀

https://tinyurl.com/3jkyuf4n
5 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 31, 2023 04:47 PM (krqg6)

224 >>>Oh, man, your gadar needs a tune up.

no he pings my gaydar just fine. I'm just saying, one guy's claim does not make something "obviously" true.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:47 PM (KRtlO)

225 210 Weird how the tone wrt Tucker changed recently. Noticed the same thing across the Townhall sites. Strange.
Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at August 31, 2023 04:46 PM (xaNfJ)

Tucker is about as establishment as you can get. He an incredibly wealthy heir to a chicken empire and used to wear bow ties and argue about nonsense on TV for years, disappeared for a while, and came back as -- well, whatever he is now.

Hard for me to take him seriously.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:48 PM (mj0Qp)

226 203 How can y'all say Obama is gay after our photo shoot of him pumping iron in the gym?!?!?
https://tinyurl.com/3czh32wu
If 10lbs kickbacks in a tracksuit aren't peak hetero masculinity, nothing is!
Posted by: GQ Magazine at August 31, 2023 04:44 PM (JCZqz)

Hang that up next to Kennedy at muscle beach, lol

Posted by: Inogame at August 31, 2023 04:48 PM (53oGX)

227 But error remains error. Russia is not good and Putin is not a brave leader fighting for Christians.
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:44 PM (KRtlO)

Yes Putin is very bad.. No hero that's for sure... I have a problem with Zelensky though.. people are dying needlessly in My opinion
Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2023 04:46 PM (bs+z0)
******
Yep!

Posted by: redridinghood at August 31, 2023 04:48 PM (NpAcC)

228 I'm trying to find the video reference, but I do remember Tucker saying recently that he agrees with almost everything RFK Jr. has to say.

Like what Tucker's doing, but that comment alone makes him a non-starter for me with any aspirations higher than being a news and entertainment provider.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2023 04:47 PM (/iWhV)

Eh, I listened to RFK on Joe Rogan's podcast, and I can't think of anything I disagreed with him about. Why don't you give me an example of something RFK Jr. said that is disagreeable?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:48 PM (mj0Qp)

229 "But whether true or not -- I'm so, so tired of The Regime dictating to us what we can say and what we can hear and read. Even when Tucker is wrong, which I find he frequently is, he is still expanding the range of opinions we are permitted to have and to simply hear from others."

The Media calling Trump a traitor and racist is Totes OK, but any Media person who calls Joe senile will be cast by the Democrat-Media Complex into a pit far worse than the AoSHQ Barrel, forever. So Media Clowns never call Joe senile.

Posted by: GL at August 31, 2023 04:49 PM (5fDan)

230 @199 I enjoy the humor but as a personal reflection, I am actually a hard man, long career as a professional sumbitch and now work the land daily and have become harder. A humble brag perhaps, but even I realize I struggle with the thought of giving up what I have to take on this insidious mess. What would happen to my kids? My grands? I am a weak man after all.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 31, 2023 04:49 PM (oWBc3)

231 Tucker is occasionally wrong — he absolutely assured us Biden would never be the nominee — and he speaks in absolutes — his favorite word is “obviously” — and further, he’s the guy that scared Trump into a Covid overreaction, so he needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

But … he’s a prophetic and brave voice, maybe the bravest. So he gets my endorsement every time.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at August 31, 2023 04:49 PM (cuS3i)

232 >>>I find Tucker to be pretty accurate.... The cow mutilations and UFO not with standing

oh yeah, that stuff. Tucker has gone from being like I used to be, despising all this conspiracy theory nonsense, to now just... embracing it.

I think he's flipped too hard. I don't mind people entertaining the idea of UFO visitations, but just embracing all UFO claims, now?

There are intermediate steps between "believing the Deep State's claims implicity" and "rejecting everything you once believed about the world."

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:49 PM (KRtlO)

233 I would like to see a picture of Mike Obama buck nekkid.

For the record.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 31, 2023 04:41 PM (iw4IE)

I'm not so curious that I'd be asking for that kind of visual pain.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 31, 2023 04:50 PM (BdMk6)

234 >>no he pings my gaydar just fine

Well. It IS mounted on the handlebars of a Vespa.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2023 04:50 PM (c4O5y)

235 I'm just saying, one guy's claim does not make something "obviously" true.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:47 PM (KRtlO)

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Every msm outlet at August 31, 2023 04:50 PM (fKIdX)

236 I admit I’d prefer to live in a timeline where Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson aren’t always right

I fear it’s not this one though

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at August 31, 2023 04:50 PM (VTu1l)

237 Eh, I listened to RFK on Joe Rogan's podcast, and I can't think of anything I disagreed with him about. Why don't you give me an example of something RFK Jr. said that is disagreeable?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:48 PM (mj0Qp)

You can read the post that CBD wrote earlier today...

PS. Sefton and I are going to chat about this on our podcast today, so look forward to some sputtering profanity tomorrow!

Posted by CBD at 11:00 AM Comments

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2023 04:50 PM (/iWhV)

238 also: this might be a case of Tucker getting a little cocky from his new-found popularity- or notoriety- and getting a little carried away

the mind is a terrible thing

Posted by: DB - now with ClimbAction Traction at August 31, 2023 04:50 PM (geLO8)

239 Obama's crew rigged a coup in Ukraine and tried it in Israel.

I figure there's plenty more skullduggery afoot.

Which indicates why they're so wee wee'd up over J6. They're experts in the schiff.

Posted by: torabora at August 31, 2023 04:50 PM (hFPXl)

240 208
But error remains error. Russia is not good and Putin is not a brave leader fighting for Christians.
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:44 PM (KRtlO)

Yes Putin is very bad.. No hero that's for sure... I have a problem with Zelensky though.. people are dying needlessly in My opinion
Posted by: It's me donna at A
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Viktor Orban nailed it. Russia will always rally for Putin.
The Russian mind is for Russia not the individual. It is for Russia to maintain itself above all other things.
That is the Russian mind.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 31, 2023 04:51 PM (SKXSf)

241 Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:46 PM (KRtlO)

False premise.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at August 31, 2023 04:51 PM (+o6KZ)

242 Remember both of Michele's pregnancies' were in-vitro

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2023 04:51 PM (bs+z0)

243 Test

Posted by: rd at August 31, 2023 04:51 PM (H3QOr)

244 Aliens would explain all the purple haired trannies though

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at August 31, 2023 04:51 PM (VTu1l)

245 Someone has to get close to Biden with a camera and ask him how many boyfriends did Obama have.

Posted by: Flatville Bill at August 31, 2023 04:51 PM (uMGpS)

246 Let us not forget the photo of Obastard and his "roommate" cozying up on the couch.

Posted by: creeper at August 31, 2023 04:51 PM (cTCuP)

247 staunch anti-Soviet/anti-Russia conservatives

There's never been a rationale for anti-Russia conservativism. It's a cold-war hangover. Always has been. For people who still think NATO has a purpose, a faction that consists of people who are trapped in yesteryear's foreign policy, and which in D.C. consists of the industrial military complex and its grateful servants. We are now what, 30+ years after the fall of the USSR? When do we get a new foreign policy, one that acknowledges that there is in fact a foreign communist superstate, and it ain't Russia, that we are deeply in bed with? Putin is scum. Fine. So are lots of leaders. Putin's ill-disposed to the West? Okay. How's that separate him from the actual leaders of the West?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 31, 2023 04:51 PM (ppBhU)

248 I'm sure though Obama and the media were telling the truth about Obama being born here.

Posted by: Blago at August 31, 2023 04:51 PM (wMRY8)

249 I watched Tucker's interview with RFK Jr. and I found no fault with it. That interview focused on Covid, the assassinations of the '60s and '70s, big Pharma, and deep state lies of the past 50 to 60 years.
RFK may have said things subsequently to draw negative conclusions about the man, but that particular interview was a good one.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 31, 2023 04:51 PM (MeG8a)

250 was unlikely he was having much gay sex in the 70's -- even in Hawaii. He was in high school.

Frank Marshall, anyone?

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 31, 2023 04:51 PM (tQL7r)

251 I still don't understand those who went past "I have no dog in the Ukraine/Russia fight" to the position of actively rooting for a Russian imperial conquest.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:46 PM (KRtlO)

Can't support a side that puts their troops out to be slaughtered for every podunk village with no tactical advantage. Reflexive fight to the death while you go on junkets and get pictures in Vogue isn't a good look. That, and 30 percent of that side is actual Nazis.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 04:51 PM (eoQWY)

252 Not defending Putin, but Ace how would the Muslim "press" of the day defined the Crusaders? What did the Sanhedrin think of Paul? Nothing is as it seems.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 31, 2023 04:51 PM (oWBc3)

253 "...was roundly condemned as an attempted political hatchet-job."

Why even deny it? I thought being gay is perfctly normal, even something to be proud of. It's as if Dems don't believe this.

Posted by: Ripley at August 31, 2023 04:51 PM (PTDkx)

254 I think this is the stuff that hurts our side
He should have known that.
Posted by: redridinghood
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People are entitled to their own opinions and that doesn't reflect on anyone other than the person making it.

Worrying about what others think is a perpetual excuse for the GOPe to kill debate.

Posted by: whig at August 31, 2023 04:52 PM (L9qbQ)

255 The claims by Sinclair standing on their own were not obviously true. They were possibly even suspect.

But the way in which the media and the Obama campaign reacted to them, and taken in context with the supposedly super-smooth super stud that Obama was supposed to be yet had no identifiable girlfriends, raised the credibility of the claims to “probably true.”

And had the media fairly reported on them, there is 100% chance that other men would have come forward,

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 31, 2023 04:52 PM (zoHBh)

256 >>>I really don't want a fudgepacker as President

I didn't "pack" it so much as give it a little pat

Posted by: Barack "Princess Tinymeat" Obama at August 31, 2023 04:52 PM (KRtlO)

257 the mind is a terrible thing

*********

Amen, the waste has always been a terrible thing to mind

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at August 31, 2023 04:52 PM (VTu1l)

258 You can read the post that CBD wrote earlier today...

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2023 04:50 PM (/iWhV)

Well, my respect for the Dildo aside, assuming I didn't read it -- enlighten me on what I'm supposed to disagree with RFK Jr. about. Granted, my actual information about him was listening to him speak on a 3 hour podcast. I haven't watched his speeches or anything like that.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:52 PM (mj0Qp)

259 Jim McGreevey, our former Governor admitted in 2004 he was a gay man. Then he resigned. From what I can determine he's done more good in his life since resigning than Obama did while in office or since leaving. Obama is a coward.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2023 04:52 PM (RSbhh)

260 ace, I think Putin was baited into a war with Ukraine. He was provoked to the point he could not longer tolerate the US messing around on his border.

Is that defending/cheering on Russia or is it an honest recognition the US has a fair amount of culpability when it comes to the way events have unfolded?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at August 31, 2023 04:52 PM (2YtOq)

261 >>>The claims by Sinclair standing on their own were not obviously true. They were possibly even suspect.
But the way in which the media and the Obama campaign reacted to them, and taken in context with the supposedly super-smooth super stud that Obama was supposed to be yet had no identifiable girlfriends, raised the credibility of the claims to “probably true.”

yup agreed

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:52 PM (KRtlO)

262 I remember Sinclair. Saw his press conference where he said he gave Obama a blow job in back of limo. Said what they say about black men didn't apply Obama.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 31, 2023 04:52 PM (ju2Fy)

263 To be fair to Kemp, they did blow'd up a family member's car.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 04:46 PM (Fe/X4)

Daughters boyfriend... not a high chance of being family.. but hey it's Georgia.

Posted by: Inogame at August 31, 2023 04:53 PM (53oGX)

264 A.B. Stoddard at The Bulwark is now pimping a Whitmer-Warnock to replace Biden?! She's scared that "the race may not even be close" if Trump picks Haley or Scott as VP.

No wonder I've checked out of most political television shows and "smart" written analysis pieces. I think I'm gonna be a little ill for the rest of the day.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 31, 2023 04:53 PM (k1Qly)

265 "Multiple people came forward saying they knew Barry from the Chicago bath house scene. -- The blog "Hillbuzz" (Chicago gays who were fans of Hillary, LOL) said Bathhouse Barry was common knowledge in Chicago and everyone had seen him out tasting penis."

yeah, I'd say it was "obvious" to anyone reading those numerous accounts about Barry. Even Barry's own biography, he shares the poem about stains on his shorts alluding to his commie mentor of his young days.

Then there is watching Barry throw a pitch, or bowl ... or sitting on the couch right next to his former roommate. He got started young ... then someone brought him up through the system, all the way to prezzie.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 31, 2023 04:53 PM (Cus5s)

266 Wasn’t “leading from behind” the tell?

Posted by: Kratwurst at August 31, 2023 04:53 PM (nIRE6)

267 *ticket

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 31, 2023 04:54 PM (k1Qly)

268 Obama's crew rigged a coup in Ukraine and tried it in Israel.

I figure there's plenty more skullduggery afoot.

Which indicates why they're so wee wee'd up over J6. They're experts in the schiff.
Posted by: torabora

Look to Africa.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2023 04:54 PM (iOTJP)

269 There are intermediate steps between "believing the Deep State's claims implicity" and "rejecting everything you once believed about the world."

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:49 PM (KRtlO)

Means zero coming from me, but thanks for the posting about your current thinking.

It makes a lot of things I formerly found bewildering from you make sense. In a good way. And understandable way.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 04:54 PM (Fe/X4)

270 I would like to see a picture of Mike Obama buck nekkid.

For the record.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 31, 2023 04:41 PM (iw4IE)
_______

There are some things I'll take on faith. And some it was not meant for man to know.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 31, 2023 04:54 PM (brAQZ)

271 We should not discount the strong likelihood that Obama was abused as a boy at the madrassa in Indonesia. Very very likely.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 31, 2023 04:54 PM (0kYJe)

272 Im am proud to announce this year I will be traveling to Saudi Arabia in honor of the 911 families..........

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 31, 2023 04:54 PM (snpvX)

273 237 Eh, I listened to RFK on Joe Rogan's podcast, and I can't think of anything I disagreed with him about. Why don't you give me an example of something RFK Jr. said that is disagreeable?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Kennedy understands his audience, he accents those aspects of his policy that appeal to that particular audience. He is a Democrat. The highlight of him against the others is, like Trump, he is human.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 31, 2023 04:54 PM (SKXSf)

274 In the end The media didn't report it because of the threats. They largely didn't report it because they though it would hurt "their" guys chances. Just think for a minute of the hypocrisy of what Democrats say in public versus that type of a consideration.

I've found that Christians, while having religious issues with homosexuality, are more tolerant and understanding. They posit through doctrine that we all sin, and therefore have our shortcomings. But they also ultimately believe in taking care of each other, no matter what our affliction. The other view is through the eyes of liberty, and that people have a right to live life as they want provided it doesn't hurt someone else, or it's forced on them. Democrats end up on the wrong side of both the religious and libertarian side of those arguments.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 31, 2023 04:55 PM (/Mfdi)

275 Which indicates why they're so wee wee'd up over J6. They're experts in the schiff.
Posted by: torabora at August 31, 2023 04:50 PM (hFPXl)

Given the prison terms they're handing out over this j6 "insurrection" the lesson is clear. Come a real insurrection, do it right. Don't lose.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2023 04:55 PM (hv9bm)

276 When do we get a new foreign policy, one that acknowledges that there is in fact a foreign communist superstate, and it ain't Russia, that we are deeply in bed with? Putin is scum. Fine. So are lots of leaders. Putin's ill-disposed to the West? Okay. How's that separate him from the actual leaders of the West?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 31, 2023 04:51 PM (ppBhU)

100% this. I don't understand why I'm supposed to have a problem with Russia. In fact, it wasn't until the fake Russian Collusion nonsense that anyone had a problem with Russia. Hillary Clinton was giving them reset buttons to apologize for Bush and his reckless cowboy ways. (who was Literally Hitler before Trump became Literally Hitler).

Russia is what it is. Would I want to live there? No. But like... so what?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:55 PM (mj0Qp)

277 I would like to see a picture of Mike Obama buck nekkid.
For the record.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 31, 2023 04:41 PM

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline 1-800-273-TALK(8255)

National Alliance Mental Illness Call 1-800-950-NAMI (6264), text "HelpLine" to 62640 or email us at helpline@nami.org

Actually, probably skip the last one...they'll probably encourage you to explore your gay feelings and consider gender reassignment.

Posted by: A concerned Moron at August 31, 2023 04:55 PM (JCZqz)

278 @260 bingo. The first premise you have to abandon is "we" are the good guys. It's a terrible realization at 70 plus.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 31, 2023 04:55 PM (oWBc3)

279 Obama always struck me as being gay. His mannerisms and movement is very...oh, let's say delicate.

Not particularly masculine at all.

Speaking of Big Mike, the MSM was always complimenting her well-developed muscular arms, which is something you'd do to a man, not usually with a woman.

Weird family. Smoking crack? Sure why not.

I'm sure the whole of the real story would make a great dark comedy.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2023 04:55 PM (QzZeQ)

280 I think Putin was baited into a war with Ukraine.

Turnip literally told him it was okay to take a little bite. Same thing George H.W. Bush said about Kuwait.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 31, 2023 04:56 PM (ppBhU)

281 >>> I think Putin was baited into a war with Ukraine. He was provoked to the point he could not longer tolerate the US messing around on his border.
Is that defending/cheering on Russia or is it an honest recognition the US has a fair amount of culpability when it comes to the way events have unfolded?

So the US of course bungled the situation as it bungles every situation, but Putin had invaded his neighbors for years and was openly threatening to invade Ukraine. I don't think he was "baited" into doing this; this was always his plan. His politics consists of saying that he intends to restore the former Russian empire. His conquests are all in service of that.

It's not like we "made" him do that which he had already promised his country he would do.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:56 PM (KRtlO)

282 The San Fran official with the "Doom Loop Tour" has been forced to apologize and resign ... the tour participants got a positive spin on homelessness and drugs instead

https://tinyurl.com/34a786t2

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Homelessness, drug addiction, and crime are what makes a city trendy vibrant, and aware!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 31, 2023 04:56 PM (FVME7)

283 Daughters boyfriend... not a high chance of being family.. but hey it's Georgia.
Posted by: Inogame at August 31, 2023 04:53 PM (53oGX)

Fair. But it was a ststement that they were willing and capable of taking out family.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 04:56 PM (Fe/X4)

284 No, Putin's no good guy. He's a plundering authoritarian SOB, but on the other hand, he's no Mao or Stalin.

I don't see any good guys on the world stage right now. Long time ago, the American president was kind of a good guy. At least, he wasn't overtly evil or incompetent or incontinent.

Posted by: DB - now with ClimbAction Traction at August 31, 2023 04:56 PM (geLO8)

285 257
...

Amen, the waste has always been a terrible thing to mind
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at August 31, 2023 04:52 PM (VTu1l)
_______

Chris Christie has joined the Horde!

Posted by: Eeyore at August 31, 2023 04:57 PM (brAQZ)

286 >>>When do we get a new foreign policy, one that acknowledges that there is in fact a foreign communist superstate, and it ain't Russia, that we are deeply in bed with? Putin is scum. Fine. So are lots of leaders. Putin's ill-disposed to the West? Okay. How's that separate him from the actual leaders of the West?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

good question

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:57 PM (KRtlO)

287 Said what they say about black men didn't apply Obama.
Posted by: olddog in mo at August 31, 2023 04:52 PM (ju2Fy)

Which one? Cause Mike Obama's is HUGE. I saw the Ellen clip. Apparently, I went fetal and started whimpering uncontrollably. I don't know. I blacked out.

Posted by: Mike Oxlong at August 31, 2023 04:57 PM (dRxzV)

288 I thought it was out in the open that Barry was dating a dude right now.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 31, 2023 04:57 PM (xcxpd)

289 258 You can read the post that CBD wrote earlier today...

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2023 04:50 PM (/iWhV)

Well, my respect for the Dildo aside, assuming I didn't read it -- enlighten me on what I'm supposed to disagree with RFK Jr. about. Granted, my actual information about him was listening to him speak on a 3 hour podcast. I haven't watched his speeches or anything like that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:52 PM (mj0Qp)

Sorry, that was out of line assuming that you didn't read CBD's post.

RFK Jr. is, to me, a garden-variety liberal who's been mugged by reality. I don't see that he's espoused a single conservative thought. Now, I give a lot of credit to any liberal who sees that the pendulum is swinging too far these days, but that doesn't mean that he's the second coming of Edmund Burke. This is still not an answer to your question, but I'd say that espousing national policies that 'mitigate' AGW is a non-starter for this conservative.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2023 04:57 PM (/iWhV)

290
Two Weeks

The US Federal govt is infecting people on purpose to have an allergic reaction to red meat

Bugs for supper yall

Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at August 31, 2023 04:57 PM (ToPep)

291 In 2020x
"longtime environmental lawyer Robert Kennedy Jr. warns it’s nearly too late."

"Robert F. Kennedy Jr. castigates fossil fuel companies, throws his support behind the Green New Deal, and says that every Democratic presidential candidate has an environmental agenda better than that of President Donald Trump."

https://tinyurl.com/bddnsemt

Posted by: redridinghood at August 31, 2023 04:57 PM (NpAcC)

292 2020 looked so promising, with Buttigieg and Kamala, but they sucked SO hard,
____

Yea, they did!

Posted by: Willie Brown at August 31, 2023 04:57 PM (Dl2a5)

293 So the US of course bungled the situation as it bungles every situation, but Putin had invaded his neighbors for years and was openly threatening to invade Ukraine. I don't think he was "baited" into doing this; this was always his plan. His politics consists of saying that he intends to restore the former Russian empire. His conquests are all in service of that.

It's not like we "made" him do that which he had already promised his country he would do.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:56 PM (KRtlO)

Romney came out and said the plan was to bait RUS into UKR and then wreck RUS in response so as to weaken CHN in prep for wrecking CHN.

This plan was laid out in the top For Pol mag.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 04:58 PM (Fe/X4)

294 >>There are intermediate steps between "believing the Deep State's claims implicity" and "rejecting everything you once believed about the world."

Yeah. Maybe that's why he has so much appeal. I think a lot of us, myself included, were shoved past those steps by what has happened in the last decade. I look back and question almost everything I assumed to be true not very long ago.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 31, 2023 04:58 PM (bNf8H)

295 @281 ban me, but quit this line of reasoning. If you don't understand Russian history or the Russian mind fine, but don't try to put Putin in a U.S. and especially not an NYC context.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 31, 2023 04:58 PM (oWBc3)

296 re-calibrating my statements:

America did more than "bungle" the situation. We repeatedly pushed for Ukraine to join NATO. that is provocative.

but I still don't see all that justifying putin launching a war which has killed, what? 600,000 people? More? A million?

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:58 PM (KRtlO)

297 "...there is in fact a foreign communist superstate, and it ain't Russia..."

Bingo. We ain't the white hats anymore.
Not for a long long time.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 31, 2023 04:58 PM (MeG8a)

298 But the way in which the media and the Obama campaign reacted to them, and taken in context with the supposedly super-smooth super stud that Obama was supposed to be yet had no identifiable girlfriends, raised the credibility of the claims to “probably true.”

And had the media fairly reported on them, there is 100% chance that other men would have come forward,
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Something about a dead boy and a bath house in Chicago?

Posted by: Braenyard at August 31, 2023 04:58 PM (SKXSf)

299 I always suspected Obama was gay because there was never one woman that came forward and said she had an affair with him.

If you've ever been friends with heterosexual black men, they always have something on the side. Even if they're married. It really is their culture. You put someone that had power and status like Obama, and they would be cashing in that chip.

Plus, his own brother said he was gay.

Posted by: Blago at August 31, 2023 04:59 PM (wMRY8)

300 So the US of course bungled the situation as it bungles every situation, but Putin had invaded his neighbors for years and was openly threatening to invade Ukraine. I don't think he was "baited" into doing this; this was always his plan. His politics consists of saying that he intends to restore the former Russian empire. His conquests are all in service of that.

It's not like we "made" him do that which he had already promised his country he would do.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:56 PM (KRtlO)

Mistakes were made? Come on. We spent decades fucking around in Russias neighborhood, including overthrowing the democratically elected government of ukraine (which Hillary bragged about) because the president was a "Putin stooge". And the situation in the former USSR is, as most things are, VERY complicated.

This was not an accident. We wanted this confrontation with Putin. Most likely because it made a lot of money for a lot of people, including the Bidens. They've been laundering money through Ukraine for god knows how long. And I guarantee they are not alone.

And the military industrial complex? This has been a great year for them! They struggled during covid, you know?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 04:59 PM (mj0Qp)

301 In the current environment where power IS the law , Marxists wield power. Ruthlessly.

Their power play re: the next election will be YUGE and epic. Like so lawless it'd make Kamala blush.

Would not be surprised to see Chicago Jesus ditch the Kalorama ruse and set up shop in the West Wing itself. Who needs the pretense of a Kalorama residence' when a Deplorable shaking a metal bicycle rack barrier is a 17 year Federal prison sentence by a regime 'judge' ?
The Left is doing what and how they damn well please.
Barack is not finished using the Constitution as his jerk sock.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at August 31, 2023 04:59 PM (3YQdT)

302 >>>295 @281 ban me, but quit this line of reasoning. If you don't understand Russian history or the Russian mind fine, but don't try to put Putin in a U.S. and especially not an NYC context.

oh the socio-cultural grievances continue! I'm just a NYC intyllektual and I can't understand the real world!

fuck you, get bent, i'm sick of the posturing

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 05:00 PM (KRtlO)

303 I think Putin was baited into a war with Ukraine. He was provoked to the point he could not longer tolerate the US messing around on his border.

Is that defending/cheering on Russia or is it an honest recognition the US has a fair amount of culpability when it comes to the way events have unfolded?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at August 31, 2023 04:52 PM (2YtOq)

There are no good guys in the uke war. And that includes the US.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 31, 2023 05:00 PM (BdMk6)

304 >>>Mistakes were made? Come on

yes but I beat you too it. I already saw my own error and walked that part back.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 05:00 PM (KRtlO)

305
but I still don't see all that justifying putin launching a war which has killed, what? 600,000 people? More? A million?
Posted by: ace

They were constantly pushing Putin's buttons, intentionally. demonically.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 31, 2023 05:01 PM (SKXSf)

306 Thank you for the time here.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 31, 2023 05:01 PM (oWBc3)

307 Do not forget, when discussing RFK, Jr, that his father was in synch with Joe McCarthy and Roy Cohn.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 31, 2023 05:01 PM (brAQZ)

308 It's not like we "made" him do that which he had already promised his country he would do.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:56 PM (KRtlO)
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Maybe that's where you and I differ. I don't think the US bungled, I think the US deliberately provoked.

However, I will defer to you when it comes to Putin saying he was going to invade Ukraine and he planned to remake the the Russian Empire.

Anyway, I am in the "both sides can fight it out, that war is not worth one American life" camp. But, Washington seems hell bent on setting off WWIII.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at August 31, 2023 05:01 PM (2YtOq)

309 but I still don't see all that justifying putin launching a war which has killed, what? 600,000 people? More? A million?
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:58 PM (KRtlO)

It's well over a million and the District of Columbia agitated until it happened. They are the but-for cause. Minsk Agreements? Nuland?

This was considered the best way to take out CHN.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 05:01 PM (Fe/X4)

310 There are no good guys in the uke war. And that includes the US.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 31, 2023 05:00 PM (BdMk6)

This... I don't think Tucker is a Russian stooge . I think he's seeing this in black and white and it's not that simple..... Lot of grey areas...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2023 05:02 PM (bs+z0)

311 >>>Yeah. Maybe that's why he has so much appeal. I think a lot of us, myself included, were shoved past those steps by what has happened in the last decade. I look back and question almost everything I assumed to be true not very long ago.

i do too. but I do think it is wise to caution against excessive overcorrection, trading one old false belief for a new false belief.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 05:02 PM (KRtlO)

312 His politics consists of saying that he intends to restore the former Russian empire.

But why would I care about that enough to be militarily opposed, even indirectly? What the fuck am I fighting for, democracy in Kyrgyzistan?!? We had so little faith in Ukrainian democracy that we insisted that Russia get all the Soviet missiles that were there. Russia. Lol.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 31, 2023 05:02 PM (ppBhU)

313 I was on another forum with a number of right wingers rooting for Russia to win.
Based on their comments for most of them it was because the left was supporting Ukraine, and they were mad at Ukraine regarding their role in Trump's impeachment.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at August 31, 2023 05:03 PM (51phj)

314 i am looking forward to that Obama - Trudeau - Macron
Happy Threesome....

Posted by: Mister Ghost at August 31, 2023 05:03 PM (TGPs7)

315 Putin spends a lot of time trying to undermine our country. Which isn't new because that's the game we play. But what Putin ultimately provides is stability over nuclear weapons. That's the real threat. It's also why nobody really cared when Pritozhin went down. He was a threat to stability. Where Putin stepped over the line is when he went hot, and stepped away from IW as a tactic and went with direct action. That's the point at which he really got peoples attention. I don't agree with the Ukraine War, I think it was an excuse for Democrats to keep flogging Russia as their side political stalking horse. There were better ways to answer Putin, and they failed miserably in Crimea, which ultimately led Putin to believe Donbas and Georgia would go unanswered. But there needed to be further actions beyond sanctions. For example, we could pretty easily wreck their economy. But that would interfere with Democrats other goals.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 31, 2023 05:03 PM (/Mfdi)

316 oh btw my steak came out great

a little charring on the outside, a suggestion of pink on the inside

Posted by: DB - now with ClimbAction Traction at August 31, 2023 05:03 PM (geLO8)

317 but I still don't see all that justifying putin launching a war which has killed, what? 600,000 people? More? A million?
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 04:58 PM (KRtlO)

Well, Russia's side of the story is that Ukraine was doing alright in an uneasy sort of alliance between ethnic Ukrainians and ethnic Russians for a while. Then the US funded Ukrainians who were not fan of ethnic Russians to overthrow the government, which was seen as somewhat friendly to ethnic Russians.

Then, ethnic ukrainians were killing ethnic Russians for years, spent decades treating them as second class citizens, were fighting guerilla wars against them, shutting off their electricity, and making them miserable. They begged Russia for help. Russia sent in "advisors," and like the US in Vietnam, it escalated to where we are today.

Now, I'm not in Ukraine. I don't know. It could be bullshit. But I do know that the US media is entirely full of shit, and I do know the basic background, and Russia's version of the story definitely has a ring of truth.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:03 PM (mj0Qp)

318 307 Do not forget, when discussing RFK, Jr, that his father was in synch with Joe McCarthy and Roy Cohn.
Posted by: Eeyore at August 31, 2023 05:01 PM (brAQZ)

McCarthy was RFK's God father

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2023 05:03 PM (bs+z0)

319 Wait, Liberace was gay?

Posted by: Blutarski at August 31, 2023 05:04 PM (Fwuhb)

320 Ah, I see you beat me to my response.

Thank you for the clarification.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at August 31, 2023 05:04 PM (2YtOq)

321 >>>
Maybe that's where you and I differ. I don't think the US bungled, I think the US deliberately provoked.

I wrote a post correcting my "bungled" cost and there I used th word "provocative."

I mean yes, we provoked. Biden fucked up Nuland is an arrogant sow. These non-geniuses think they're masters of the universe creating a New World Order, but they're arrogant incompetents who just make a lot of corpses.

But i'm not rooting for Putin to kill more people for that.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 05:04 PM (KRtlO)

322 Blake, yes. When the 2014 coup instigated by Killary/Nuland failed Lavrov publicly humiliated Killary for that stupid reset stunt it became a mission for her to think she could fuck with Putin. It isn't Barky that has his hand up Bribe'em ass.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 31, 2023 05:04 PM (+rpDz)

323 but I still don't see all that justifying putin launching a war which has killed, what? 600,000 people? More? A million?

====

Ongoing provocation. Palestinians make a lot of noise after Israel is forced to go into Jenin or Gaza.

Posted by: runner at August 31, 2023 05:04 PM (idBr5)

324 " people flipping 180 degrees from being staunch anti-Soviet/anti-Russia conservatives to now doubting the claims of the American security state so much they think Russia is the good guy."

idk Tucker's position, but I've said for a long time, we need at least some detente with Russia, they are more like us than China. We need India/Russia united with us against China/Pakistan/Iran.

Someone instead seems intent on driving China/Russia together, to ? destroy US? Same with the quad alliance ... India/Aussies/Japan/USA .. (and others). But maybe there is some greater master plan, and China is actually about to collapse, idk.

Trump also wanted to get along with Russia, China was The Big Threat.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 31, 2023 05:05 PM (Cus5s)

325 Do I believe Obama is gay? Sure.

Do I believe that Obama smoked crack? Probably.

While I did not support Obama's policies, he seemed pretty sober in the White House.

Posted by: Erronius at August 31, 2023 05:05 PM (vZ98q)

326 I think we're in an semi-declared war with Russia and it will hopefully bit the US power elite in the ass. Sadly it will probably also bite a lot of us in the ass too but, c'est le guerre

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 31, 2023 05:05 PM (xcxpd)

327 Worrying about what others think is a perpetual excuse for the GOPe to kill debate.
Posted by: whig at August 31, 2023 04:52 PM (L9qbQ)
*****
Calling the Sandy Hook massacre a hoax was awful and disrespectful..

Doesn't matter what party you support or belong to.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 31, 2023 05:06 PM (NpAcC)

328 But i'm not rooting for Putin to kill more people for that.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 05:04 PM (KRtlO)

Ace, RUs and UKR had a peace deal done early on and then NATO and US via Boris nixed it.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 05:06 PM (Fe/X4)

329 Queer. Commie. Muslim.

They really swung for the fences when "they" gave us this clown, didn't they?

Posted by: SMFH at August 31, 2023 05:06 PM (vGZLX)

330 I really could not care less where Obama's sexual proclivities lie.

Smoking crack? That's not good. But I did some stupid shit in college. Does that automatically disqualify me from holding office?

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at August 31, 2023 05:07 PM (ecxfm)

331 319 Wait, Liberace was gay?
Posted by: Blutarski at August 31, 2023 05:04 PM

I've heard that rumor, too. I always preferred Elton John, though, when it comes to super-straight pianist/singing performers with a flair for fashion and the dramatic.

Posted by: Confused Moron at August 31, 2023 05:07 PM (JCZqz)

332 I’m only a fan of Putin to the extent that he is willing to toss simps, soys and all the gay boys off of rooftops

I’m so fucking sick and tired of being surrounded by male pussies

***continues sipping pumpkin spice latte***

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at August 31, 2023 05:07 PM (VTu1l)

333 Calling the Sandy Hook massacre a hoax was awful and disrespectful..

Doesn't matter what party you support or belong to.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 31, 2023 05:06 PM (NpAcC)

Yeah, but, calling us white supremacists and saying we voted for Literal Hitler is awful and disrespectful, but that doesn't seem to be a problem.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:07 PM (mj0Qp)

334 Yes, in Reality it was US pushing the buttons. neo-cons thought it would give the Regime Change in Russia.

Posted by: runner at August 31, 2023 05:08 PM (idBr5)

335 @281 ban me, but quit this line of reasoning. If you don't understand Russian history or the Russian mind fine, but don't try to put Putin in a U.S. and especially not an NYC context.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 31, 2023 04:58 PM (oWBc3)

My HS Social Studies teacher was big on this. Russia tends to have a paranoid outlook and want a strong leader because every time they don't, someone invades and damn near conquers them. Witness the Mongols, Ottoman Turks, Swedes, Napoleon, Germans twice in both World Wars.

We'd probably have a different outlook if Canada, then Spain took turns laying waste to good chunks of our territory too.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 05:08 PM (eoQWY)

336 a little charring on the outside, a suggestion of pink on the inside

IT'S ALL PINK ON THE INSIDE!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 31, 2023 05:08 PM (D19AP)

337 Wait, Liberace was gay?
Posted by: Blutarski at August 31, 2023 05:04 PM (Fwuhb)

Noooooo! It can't be true.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 31, 2023 05:08 PM (BdMk6)

338 I really could not care less where Obama's sexual proclivities lie.

Smoking crack? That's not good. But I did some stupid shit in college. Does that automatically disqualify me from holding office?

As a republican, absolutely.

As a Democrat, resume enhancer.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at August 31, 2023 05:08 PM (Bd6X8)

339 Our arming of Ukraine has prolonged this war and caused huge numbers of casualties... Zelensky should never have gotten the celebrity treatment

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2023 05:08 PM (bs+z0)

340 Is it pumpkin spice season already? Not sure where I put my flag ...

Posted by: spindrift at August 31, 2023 05:09 PM (y3wha)

341 >>>Someone instead seems intent on driving China/Russia together, to ? destroy US?

these people do not seem capable enough to me to have worked out a plan to drive Russia and China together and then to have executed it. Maybe I'm wrong, but they are incompetent.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 05:09 PM (KRtlO)

342 What batshit insane psychopath would presume to say Liberace was gay?

What’s next, claiming Madonna is not a virgin?

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at August 31, 2023 05:09 PM (VTu1l)

343 On that interview with Tucker Carlson and Adam Carolla, Tucker firmly believes the US engages in a hot war with Russia before Biden's term ends as a way to secure power.

Posted by: Blago at August 31, 2023 05:09 PM (wMRY8)

344 They,ve been living that dream for a long time.

Posted by: runner at August 31, 2023 05:09 PM (idBr5)

345 Calling the Sandy Hook massacre a hoax was awful and disrespectful..

Doesn't matter what party you support or belong to.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 31, 2023 05:06 PM (NpAcC)

Hoax is the wrong word.
I 100% believe that the US Intel Community is creating, grooming and deploying mass shooters in an op against US citizens.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 31, 2023 05:09 PM (xcxpd)

346 >>I really could not care less where Obama's sexual proclivities lie.

Smoking crack? That's not good. But I did some stupid shit in college. Does that automatically disqualify me from holding office?

I think the point of the post is less about the objectionable nature of his proclivities and more about how the media propaganda arm of the democratic party complete controls information.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 31, 2023 05:09 PM (bNf8H)

347 334 Yes, in Reality it was US pushing the buttons. neo-cons thought it would give the Regime Change in Russia.
Posted by: runner at August 31, 2023 05:08 PM (idBr5)

I don't think they actually care about who runs Russia. I think this was always about money.

Can't play this game with China -- we actually need them to make our cheap shit and for us to export our pollution to -- so why not go after Russia? They're weak, they don't do much for us, and, hey, Europe should walk the walk and go green and stop using natural gas anyways.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:09 PM (mj0Qp)

348 Smoking crack? That's not good. But I did some stupid shit in college. Does that automatically disqualify me from holding office?
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at August 31, 2023 05:07 PM (ecxfm)

I mean, if you smoked crack, yeah I wouldn't vote for you. I might be pals but nah you can't be an elected official.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 05:09 PM (Fe/X4)

349 If Barry cheats on Big Mike I probably will have broken bones and a black eye.....

Posted by: Frank N. Stien at August 31, 2023 05:10 PM (p3lya)

350 But is it "obvious" they were true? Or was it obvious in 2008, more importantly?

Nah.

***

It was obvious to me, especially after seeing him "pitch" a ball and "ride" a bike.. I think I'm more manly than old P-lips.

Side note: college football is almost here!

Posted by: LASue at August 31, 2023 05:10 PM (Ed8Zd)

351 My biggest takeaway from the Trump/Biden/Putin/Zelensky debacle?

I realized I was too oriented toward this world and remembered where I really need to keep my focus: my true Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at August 31, 2023 05:10 PM (2YtOq)

352 During the recent podcast with Adam Corolla (highly recommended), Tucker admitted being wrong about many things in the past, which is more than just about anyone else in the media has done.
For that, I give him credit.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 31, 2023 05:10 PM (MeG8a)

353 Yeah, but, calling us white supremacists and saying we voted for Literal Hitler is awful and disrespectful, but that doesn't seem to be a problem.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:07 PM (mj0Qp)
*******
And this is wrong too.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 31, 2023 05:10 PM (NpAcC)

354 Wait, Liberace was gay?
Posted by: Blutarski at August 31, 2023 05:04 PM

I've heard that rumor, too. I always preferred Elton John, though, when it comes to super-straight pianist/singing performers with a flair for fashion and the dramatic.
Posted by: Confused Moron

Next, y'all are going to say Freddie Mercury was gay.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2023 05:10 PM (iOTJP)

355 327 Worrying about what others think is a perpetual excuse for the GOPe to kill debate.
Posted by: whig at August 31, 2023 04:52 PM (L9qbQ)
*****
Calling the Sandy Hook massacre a hoax was awful and disrespectful..

Doesn't matter what party you support or belong to.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 31, 2023 05:06 PM (NpAcC)

It's awful and disrespectful, but it's not worth $1 billion in compensation to anybody. If anybody should be paying that money out, it's the from estate and assets of...the shooter himself.

Alex Jones was broadcasting in a ghetto where there was no chance that any of the victims' families would have heard that directly. The MSM weaponized his words by reporting them to the families. Lawyers then goaded the families into attacking Jones via the court system. Not very cricket, in my book. Not at all.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2023 05:11 PM (/iWhV)

356 But I do know that the US media is entirely full of shit
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:03 PM (mj0Qp)

It's worse than that. They're not only wrong about nearly everything, they see it as their mission to destroy those who aren't.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 31, 2023 05:11 PM (kRFA3)

357 Thankfully, we know the Republican party leadership deeply embraces conservative principles and causes. For example, look at Michael Steele's recent highlights from his Wiki page:

After serving one term as RNC Chairperson from 2009 to 2011, he lost his bid for a second term and was succeeded by Reince Priebus.[4] Since 2011, Steele has contributed as a regular columnist for online magazine The Root[5] and as a political analyst for MSNBC.[6] In 2018, he became a Senior Fellow at Brown University's Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs.[7]

In 2020, he formally endorsed Joe Biden for the presidency, after previously starring in an advertisement aired by The Lincoln Project.[8][9]

Posted by: Moron Analyst at August 31, 2023 05:11 PM (JCZqz)

358 318 307 Do not forget, when discussing RFK, Jr, that his father was in synch with Joe McCarthy and Roy Cohn.
Posted by: Eeyore at August 31, 2023 05:01 PM (brAQZ)

McCarthy was RFK's God father
Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2023 05:03 PM (bs+z0)

Trump was very close to Roy Cohn, who had the dirt on many a Congress Critter.

RFK attended McCarthy's funeral.

JFK skipped the McCarthy censure hearing, so he never voted...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at August 31, 2023 05:11 PM (TGPs7)

359 My HS Social Studies teacher was big on this. Russia tends to have a paranoid outlook and want a strong leader because every time they don't, someone invades and damn near conquers them. Witness the Mongols, Ottoman Turks, Swedes, Napoleon, Germans twice in both World Wars.

We'd probably have a different outlook if Canada, then Spain took turns laying waste to good chunks of our territory too.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 05:08 PM (eoQWY)

Go to the southern border states and look around. Then we'll talk.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 31, 2023 05:11 PM (BdMk6)

360 " Tucker Carlson has claimed Barack Obama was smoking crack and having sex with men - but the media failed to report it ahead of the 2008 presidential election."

If only Tucker had a media job in 2008!

Posted by: He woulda saved us! at August 31, 2023 05:11 PM (sWJEg)

361 Yes, in Reality it was US pushing the buttons. neo-cons thought it would give the Regime Change in Russia.
Posted by: runner at August 31, 2023 05:08 PM (idBr5)

Dumber yet, they though the sanctions they put on in addition to the routine sanctions would cripple them when it did more to cripple their own side. So now France and Germany are wondering why Putin won't take their calls on maybe not applying more sanctions.

It's because this isn't a GAME for Russia, its real life and they have had it with the West.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 05:11 PM (eoQWY)

362 My HS Social Studies teacher was big on this. Russia tends to have a paranoid outlook and want a strong leader because every time they don't, someone invades and damn near conquers them. Witness the Mongols, Ottoman Turks, Swedes, Napoleon, Germans twice in both World Wars.

We'd probably have a different outlook if Canada, then Spain took turns laying waste to good chunks of our territory too.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 05:08 PM (eoQWY)

We might have had the same Russian History teacher in high school.

But yes, that is 100% true. Russia has been constantly invaded, fucked over, and treated like the alcoholic loser hillbillies of Europe since forever.

And that has seeped in to their national psyche.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:11 PM (mj0Qp)

363 If it doesn't go nuclear before the election we'll have a chance.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 31, 2023 05:12 PM (SKXSf)

364 I 100% believe that the US Intel Community is creating, grooming and deploying mass shooters in an op against US citizens.

*********

I say old chap, they never did quite solve that Las Vegas shooting did they?

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at August 31, 2023 05:12 PM (VTu1l)

365 Harry , they do care. They want Yeltsin pliable type who they can manipulate into anything.

Posted by: runner at August 31, 2023 05:12 PM (idBr5)

366 If Barry cheats on Big Mike I probably will have broken bones and a black eye.....

It's not like they'd find a body floating in a pond some distance from the corpse's clothing.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at August 31, 2023 05:12 PM (Bd6X8)

367 Who is the motherfucker in charge that gets to determine what piece of shit is going to be president?

Whoever it is was able to tell Hillary to sit down and shut up to make way for a gay crackhead.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 31, 2023 05:12 PM (O1z4v)

368 Go to the southern border states and look around. Then we'll talk.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 31, 2023 05:11 PM (BdMk6)

Those weren't the states the North laid waste to, it was the Deep South.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 05:13 PM (eoQWY)

369 I mean, if you smoked crack, yeah I wouldn't vote for you. I might be pals but nah you can't be an elected official.

Posted by: Thesokorus

Why not? What if I did and thought, gee, this is stupid shit. Perhaps I should grow the hell up and stop acting like an idiot. And then went on with my life.

I did not smoke crack, for the record.

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at August 31, 2023 05:13 PM (ecxfm)

370 It's worse than that. They're not only wrong about nearly everything, they see it as their mission to destroy those who aren't.
Posted by: Ordinary American

Kind of like around here

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 31, 2023 05:13 PM (tQL7r)

371 Obama said he smoked crack in one of his biographies.

But try to tell a Leftie that.

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2023 05:14 PM (dWjpk)

372 364 I 100% believe that the US Intel Community is creating, grooming and deploying mass shooters in an op against US citizens.

Gee... what makes you think tha?

...known to the FBI....

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 31, 2023 05:14 PM (O1z4v)

373 I want the United States Of America to stop meddling in other countries' internal affairs. Especially those who do not declare war on us. Is that too much to ask?

Posted by: runner at August 31, 2023 05:14 PM (idBr5)

374 And this is wrong too.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 31, 2023 05:10 PM (NpAcC)

Okay, so whats the problem?

Alex Jones was not deferential enough to families of dead children. Fine, agreed.

Why is he cancelled from every platform on the internet, and has a billion dollar verdict against him or doing something (being rude) that the MSM does daily?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:14 PM (mj0Qp)

375 Hi Ben Had! How are things in your part of the world?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at August 31, 2023 05:14 PM (2YtOq)

376 Smoking crack? That's not good. But I did some stupid shit in college. Does that automatically disqualify me from holding office?

I think the point of the post is less about the objectionable nature of his proclivities and more about how the media propaganda arm of the democratic party complete controls information.

If you don't think these proclivities are objectionable, then what is the media's offense really, other than ensuring troglodytes didn't consider factors they shouldn't have? That's their point of view: we're protecting America from itself. And if I shared their point of view about these proclivities, I'd agree.

Conservatives or whatever we are now need to get over this throat-clearing, give-no-offense nonsense though. Rock smoking and bathouse frequenting are high-risk behaviors that show a lack of impulse control and judgment, and concealed they are blackmail material. Yeah, they should be disqualifying.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 31, 2023 05:14 PM (ppBhU)

377 *those that

Posted by: runner at August 31, 2023 05:14 PM (idBr5)

378 Who is the motherfucker in charge that gets to determine what piece of shit is going to be president?

Whoever it is was able to tell Hillary to sit down and shut up to make way for a gay crackhead.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 31, 2023 05:12 PM (O1z4v)

That was the SuperDelegate scam. All the time the Clintons thought that weapon was working on their side.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 05:15 PM (eoQWY)

379 My biggest takeaway from the Trump/Biden/Putin/Zelensky debacle?

I realized I was too oriented toward this world and remembered where I really need to keep my focus: my true Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(2YtOq) at August 31, 2023 05:10 PM (2YtOq)

Me too. Truly, I thank God for that.

Posted by: LASue at August 31, 2023 05:15 PM (Ed8Zd)

380 Posted by: Ordinary American

You have been marked for destruction. Please proceed accordingly.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 31, 2023 05:15 PM (O1z4v)

381 >>Maybe that's where you and I differ. I don't think the US bungled, I think the US deliberately provoked.

Well you're right.

I don't want Putin to win so much as I want Ukraine and more importantly our intel/foreign policy apparatus to lose and lose big.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 31, 2023 05:15 PM (ZLI7S)

382 365 Harry , they do care. They want Yeltsin pliable type who they can manipulate into anything.
Posted by: runner at August 31, 2023 05:12 PM (idBr5)

Why? Manipulate in to what? Russia doesn't do much for us. They're kind of the backwoods of Europe, they have some gas, oil, and trees... but otherwise, what? Their GDP is minimal. They aren't a major player in world events.

They were just an easy target.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:16 PM (mj0Qp)

383 these people do not seem capable enough to me to have worked out a plan to drive Russia and China together and then to have executed it. Maybe I'm wrong, but they are incompetent.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 05:09 PM (KRtlO)

ace I know you have a penchant for Thunder Island. Any other songs you like?

Posted by: JmT at August 31, 2023 05:16 PM (Dgr0A)

384 I'd like to live in a system where the federal president has so little power it doesn't really matter if they're a corrupt crack smoking degenerate, because their only job is to sit in a chair and press a big red button when the Generals say push the big red button.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 31, 2023 05:16 PM (9UlRk)

385 Side note: college football is almost here!
Posted by: LASue
--------------------
Yep. The FCS, DII, DIII, NAIA, all start soon!!

😉

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 31, 2023 05:16 PM (kazEt)

386 Posted by: Oldcat at August

Except they work both sides. It seems the D and R nominee, and eventual winner are predetermined. Trump fucked up the system and we are living the fallout.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 31, 2023 05:17 PM (O1z4v)

387 And just like that the Left was right about NATO being a provocation on the Soviets' border because Russia had always been invaded from the West.

Posted by: Forest Hump at August 31, 2023 05:17 PM (krqg6)

388 Daniel Patrick Moynihan talked a great game, but every chance he had to vote the courage of his convictions, he whiffed. He was always a Democrat first.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2023 04:41 PM (/iWhV)

Heh.

Posted by: Joe Lieberman and Evan Bayh at August 31, 2023 05:17 PM (PiwSw)

389 Those weren't the states the North laid waste to, it was the Deep South.
Posted by: Oldcat

They wanted to get the hell out of Texas.

Posted by: Mosquitoes and Heat at August 31, 2023 05:17 PM (SKXSf)

390 384 I'd like to live in a system where the federal president has so little power it doesn't really matter if they're a corrupt crack smoking degenerate, because their only job is to sit in a chair and press a big red button when the Generals say push the big red button.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 31, 2023 05:16 PM (9UlRk)

And just let the permanent bureaucracy run the government?

Because that's more or less what we have now with Biden.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:17 PM (mj0Qp)

391 Why is he cancelled from every platform on the internet, and has a billion dollar verdict against him or doing something (being rude) that the MSM does daily?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:14 PM (mj0Qp)

Because when he was cancelled he had 10x more web influence than the mainstream press and they couldn't even pretend to catch up. They still aren't catching up but they are losing control. They just had FOX suicide itself and Tucker just walked out of it without a scratch.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 05:17 PM (eoQWY)

392 Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2023 05:11 PM (/iWhV)
******
If I had been on the jury I would have awarded them 0 in compensation even though I thought what Alex Jones said was awful and wrong.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 31, 2023 05:17 PM (NpAcC)

393 I realized I was too oriented toward this world and remembered where I really need to keep my focus: my true Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Posted by: blake
___

Amen.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 31, 2023 05:17 PM (NeyZG)

394 I say old chap, they never did quite solve that Las Vegas shooting did they?
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at August 31, 2023 05:12 PM

I bet he had something to do with that coke we found in the White House!!!

Posted by: Multiple Federal Agencies excusing their incompetence without accountability at August 31, 2023 05:17 PM (Yhzwt)

395 381 >>Maybe that's where you and I differ. I don't think the US bungled, I think the US deliberately provoked.

Well you're right.

I don't want Putin to win so much as I want Ukraine and more importantly our intel/foreign policy apparatus to lose and lose big.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 31, 2023 05:15 PM (ZLI7S)

I've got a big problem with Congress nickle-and-diming Trump out of his $5 billion in funds for a border wall, while wiring $150 billion (and counting) to a country that most people couldn't find on a map. Oh, and trying to jaw-jaw us into war-war to boot.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2023 05:17 PM (/iWhV)

396 Why? Manipulate in to what? Russia doesn't do much for us. They're kind of the backwoods of Europe, they have some gas, oil, and trees... but otherwise, what? Their GDP is minimal. They aren't a major player in world events.

They were just an easy target.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:16 PM (mj0Qp)

You may want to revisit all your assumptions about Russia. I

Posted by: runner at August 31, 2023 05:18 PM (idBr5)

397 Why not? What if I did and thought, gee, this is stupid shit. Perhaps I should grow the hell up and stop acting like an idiot. And then went on with my life.

I did not smoke crack, for the record.
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at August 31, 2023 05:13 PM (ecxfm)

Because it shows that person is not one capable of making decisions that effect the nation as a whole.

I don't want someone making political decsions for me who once decided that the chance to smoke crack was a yolo moment.

It doesn't mean anything more about them than that.

And ok, if we want to parse and this is the 0.005% of crack smokers who did it once and was a square john in everything else then ok.

But a diagnostic tool with +99% accuracy is a good tool and one I will use.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 05:18 PM (Fe/X4)

398 More evidence that DC is a massive edifice of lies and corruption:
The Senate doctor has declared McConnell fit for duty!

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 31, 2023 05:18 PM (MeG8a)

399 >Yep. The FCS, DII, DIII, NAIA, all start soon!!

there are games tonight

Posted by: DB - now with ClimbAction Traction at August 31, 2023 05:18 PM (geLO8)

400 You can call it proof or not, but there was a House TV show about the young, black politician who needed to hide his AIDS.

They all knew it was Obama

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 31, 2023 05:18 PM (TzW+Y)

401 "these people do not seem capable enough to me to have worked out a plan to drive Russia and China together and then to have executed it. Maybe I'm wrong, but they are incompetent." Posted by: ace

Well, "these people" in office, at least the ones put in positions of power, are incompetent boobs. But they pulled off a trillion dollar heist via big pharma, put massive controls in motion, put their old man puppet in the White House, are enriching their favored billionaires ...

WEF types and others have an agenda that serves the elite ... the global warming and vax hoax, and trans crap are just their methods. imo

Posted by: illiniwek at August 31, 2023 05:19 PM (Cus5s)

402 398 More evidence that DC is a massive edifice of lies and corruption:
The Senate doctor has declared McConnell fit for duty!
Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 31, 2023 05:18 PM (MeG8a)

Now do Fetterman

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2023 05:19 PM (bs+z0)

403 387 And just like that the Left was right about NATO being a provocation on the Soviets' border because Russia had always been invaded from the West.
Posted by: Forest Hump at August 31, 2023 05:17 PM (krqg6)

Why does NATO still exist? It was created to keep the Germans down, the Americans in, and the Russians out, as the old saying goes.

Well, we've more or less mended bridges with Germany, we allowed them reunite. We certainly don't have any military need to keep the US in Europe. And Russia is no longer the USSR, and hardly needs to be kept out of Europe. And to the extent they do, Europe can take care of themselves.

So why does NATO still exist?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:19 PM (mj0Qp)

404 And just let the permanent bureaucracy run the government?

Because that's more or less what we have now with Biden.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:17 PM (mj0Qp)

It doesn't take much historical reading that even crazy incompetent kings and generals are far far better than a bureaucratic state for everyone aside from bureaucrats.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 05:19 PM (eoQWY)

405 >The Senate doctor has declared McConnell fit for duty!

Posted by: gourmand du jour

he's standing upright and his eyes are open!

Posted by: DB - now with ClimbAction Traction at August 31, 2023 05:19 PM (geLO8)

406 Most of the last thread was pretty insipid. But I'm glad to see a few people talking about an actually *interesting* story... the major setbacks for the US imperial possessions in Africa, and the recent humiliation of Power Piggy Plenipotentiary Nuland.

If the US is doomed to carry the weight of US chains for the foreseeable future, at least I can watch *some* people cast off the wicked American regime. Go Africa!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 31, 2023 05:19 PM (CP24n)

407 We can argue over how much we lured Russia into this, and how much it was Putin's fault, but the fact is the USA is not trying to end the Ukraine war and instead we're doing a lot to ramp it up. Lots of people dying, mostly Ukranian. And Nordstream didn't blow itself up.

This won't end well., and it could get worse. And some people in the USA are making bank off of it.

Meanwhile J6 prisoners rot in jail.

This is not the America I once believed in.

Tell me where I'm wrong.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 31, 2023 05:20 PM (RqMSv)

408 I'd like to live in a system where the federal president has so little power it doesn't really matter if they're a corrupt crack smoking degenerate, because their only job is to sit in a chair and press a big red button when the Generals say push the big red button.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 31, 2023 05:16 PM (9UlRk)

And just let the permanent bureaucracy run the government?

Because that's more or less what we have now with Biden.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Honestly? It seems that's what we have had for a long time now.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2023 05:20 PM (iOTJP)

409 And just let the permanent bureaucracy run the government?

Because that's more or less what we have now with Biden.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:17 PM (mj0Qp)

Yes. Because clearly the one thing i said in the one sentence i wrote is the be all end all solution to every problem in earth.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 31, 2023 05:20 PM (9UlRk)

410 I have a friend who legitimately believes the intel community and FBI have a six week cycle in which they instigate mass shootings

And they admitted this on TV in 2015

I believe all the conspiracies now

Including aliens, but only because I vainly hope the girl of my dreams is a green skinned hottie with three boobies who will abduct me some day and save me from the tranny insanity

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger at August 31, 2023 05:20 PM (VTu1l)

411 You may want to revisit all your assumptions about Russia.
Posted by: runner at August 31, 2023 05:18 PM (idBr5)

Why? Where am I wrong?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:20 PM (mj0Qp)

412 283 Daughters boyfriend... not a high chance of being family.. but hey it's Georgia.
Posted by: Inogame at August 31, 2023 04:53 PM (53oGX)

Fair. But it was a ststement that they were willing and capable of taking out family.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 04:56 PM (Fe/X4)

I was just being a joker. I understood what you were saying.

Posted by: Inogame at August 31, 2023 05:21 PM (53oGX)

413 nood UKR Biden

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 31, 2023 05:21 PM (krqg6)

414 Fuck whataboutism. Yeahbutism is the real new hotness.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 31, 2023 05:21 PM (9UlRk)

415 398 More evidence that DC is a massive edifice of lies and corruption:
The Senate doctor has declared McConnell fit for duty!
Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 31, 2023 05:18 PM (MeG8a)

He's still more mentally competent than Hank Johnson and hasn't tipped over Guam yet...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at August 31, 2023 05:21 PM (TGPs7)

416 Neb v Minn 8pm MDT

Posted by: DB - now with ClimbAction Traction at August 31, 2023 05:21 PM (geLO8)

417 >>Tell me where I'm wrong.

you quit too soon

Posted by: DanMan at August 31, 2023 05:21 PM (SPSUr)

418 They were just an easy target.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

With big missiles

Posted by: Mosquitoes and Heat at August 31, 2023 05:21 PM (SKXSf)

419 Liberace won a defamation suit against a publication that claimed he was gay.

Posted by: Aruba Liberace! at August 31, 2023 05:21 PM (83IzV)

420 Honestly? It seems that's what we have had for a long time now.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2023 05:20 PM (iOTJP)

Agreed.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:21 PM (mj0Qp)

421 Well, we've more or less mended bridges with Germany, we allowed them reunite. We certainly don't have any military need to keep the US in Europe. And Russia is no longer the USSR, and hardly needs to be kept out of Europe. And to the extent they do, Europe can take care of themselves.

So why does NATO still exist?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:19 PM (mj0Qp)

Dude we attacked Germany via Nord2 and we have de-industrialized them.

NATO was a poison pill for Europe and RUS.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 05:22 PM (Fe/X4)

422 So why does NATO still exist?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 31, 2023 05:19 PM (mj0Qp)

Because a lot of people have good jobs running it. They like playing in power politics. What makes it dangerous is that they have not paid any attention to making sure it has armed forces worth a rats ass to fight for or defend their empire, because none of the forces it might use are worth crap aside from the US army....well maybe the US army.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 05:22 PM (eoQWY)

423 So why does NATO still exist?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at

God question. How is Raytheon doing?

Posted by: runner at August 31, 2023 05:22 PM (idBr5)

424 I'd like to live in a system where the federal president has so little power it doesn't really matter if they're a corrupt crack smoking degenerate, because their only job is to sit in a chair and press a big red button when the Generals say push the big red button.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 31, 2023 05:16 PM (9UlRk)
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Does anyone really believe FJB is calling the shots from the Big Chair? He does what he's told or he gets the hose again.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 31, 2023 05:22 PM (YIVH2)

425 Calling the Sandy Hook massacre a hoax was awful and disrespectful..

Doesn't matter what party you support or belong to.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 31, 2023 05:06 PM (NpAcC)

It's awful and disrespectful, but it's not worth $1 billion in compensation to anybody. If anybody should be paying that money out, it's the from estate and assets of...the shooter himself.

Alex Jones was broadcasting in a ghetto where there was no chance that any of the victims' families would have heard that directly. The MSM weaponized his words by reporting them to the families. Lawyers then goaded the families into attacking Jones via the court system. Not very cricket, in my book. Not at all.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 31, 2023 05:11 PM (/
—————

You also have to look at what AJ actually said. What he said was more subtle than the words that were put in his mouth by a corrupt media. His main point was that it was unseemly for some parents to parade around on talk shows like celebrities. That’s an opinion, not a statement of fact, and I can’t say he’s wrong about it in any event.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 31, 2023 05:22 PM (zoHBh)

426 I was just being a joker. I understood what you were saying.
Posted by: Inogame at August 31, 2023 05:21 PM (53oGX)

Haha. And I was bring autistically humorless. Sorry.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 05:23 PM (Fe/X4)

427 I can ask the same question aboutvthe EU , why does it exist?

Posted by: runner at August 31, 2023 05:23 PM (idBr5)

428 Nood.

Posted by: Joe Lieberman and Evan Bayh at August 31, 2023 05:24 PM (PiwSw)

429 Victoria Nuland is a sooper genius and her hands are all over Ukraine. Also Lt. Bearclaw who called out Trump for trying to change US policy in Ukraine

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 31, 2023 05:25 PM (Dl2a5)

430 I can ask the same question aboutvthe EU , why does it exist?
Posted by: runner at August 31, 2023 05:23 PM (idBr5)

??? It was a plan to counter US aspirations to global hegemony. And stop another WWII.

But they let in The City of London.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 31, 2023 05:25 PM (Fe/X4)

431 >>We can argue over how much we lured Russia into this

If you look at the history of NATO, the promises we made about expansion and the promises we broke about expansion coupled with Putin's explicit warnings at the 2008 NATO summit about further expansion in Georgia and Ukraine and then our actions in both coupled with the coup we ran in 2014 it's really not much of an argument. It's historical fact.

Putin is a bad guy, I don't think that's much of an argument either. But it's kind of irrelevant. He is the leader of Russia and has a say in the events that affect his country. We knew his position on NATO expansion, he demonstrated it with his invasion of Georgia and then Crimea, and Biden still went ahead and doubled down. There was no chance Putin wouldn't respond and Biden and his moronic foreign policy team and our corrupt intel community all knew it.

The only real question is why?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 31, 2023 05:26 PM (ZLI7S)

432 @431 Spot on. And Ukraine is a huge distraction when we have so many existential problems of our own.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 31, 2023 05:29 PM (RqMSv)

433 these people do not seem capable enough to me to have worked out a plan to drive Russia and China together and then to have executed it. Maybe I'm wrong, but they are incompetent.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2023 05:09 PM (KRtlO)

Competent they are not, but it isn't difficult to get people to unite against you implicitly if you act like a crazy insane person.

Our fractionalized government has a faction that hates Russia and a faction that hates China and whenever one gets the upper hand they poke them with a stick to make them mad.

Then we do crap like blowing up NordStream and grabbing assets from people without trial and every foreign leader with a bank account begins looking for alternatives because who can tell when this might happen to them if some idiot at State decides his government is bad?

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 05:30 PM (eoQWY)

434 There was no chance Putin wouldn't respond and Biden and his moronic foreign policy team and our corrupt intel community all knew it.

The only real question is why?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 31, 2023 05:26 PM (ZLI7S)

The idiots at State who had the upper hand really thought the toothless sanctions they crafted so nobody they knew would be affected (notice the lack of sanctions for NATO shippers shipping oil or gas initially) and the bank sanctions in particular would just break a nation that has been a going concern for 1000 years in a few days.

When that blew up and Ukraine was negotiating after the first month, the West came back and promised Ukraine the moon to make a military solution to cover up the failed sanction strategy. Ukraine stupidly went along with it and some half a million dead later, are still in the soup.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 31, 2023 05:36 PM (eoQWY)

435 actively rooting for a Russian imperial conquest.

Of DC?
I don't think they could pull it off but it might be fun to watch.

Posted by: DaveA at August 31, 2023 05:38 PM (FhXTo)

436 >The Senate doctor has declared McConnell fit for duty!

Posted by: gourmand du jour

he's standing upright and his eyes are open!
Posted by: DB - now with ClimbAction Traction at August 31, 2023 05:19 PM (geLO

The doctor only did one test. He told McConnell, "Simon, says, freeze." and McConnell did.

Posted by: Beartooth at August 31, 2023 05:41 PM (azYCi)

437 It is interesting how much of Obama's life is verbotten. No one can see his school records, his papers, there was a Professor who said he was never in his class, so its not surprising to hear Barry is a flamer. And it does explain a lot of what has happened in the social sphere of this nation.
But I don't recall hearing any rumors Barry was gay back then. In fact the big story was him shipping his mistress to the Caribbean to get her out of the way.

Posted by: Iblis at August 31, 2023 05:41 PM (9221z)

438 The media had no trouble running stories about Gloria Allred's appearance at the National press Club attacking Herman Cain with bogus charges.

Posted by: MikeN at August 31, 2023 05:45 PM (XygMV)

439 I'm not sure what's to be gained by putting this front and center though. At best, it's old news. The media protects Dems. Water is wet.

Posted by: SMFH at August 31, 2023 04:22 PM (vGZLX)

Agreed. It's pretty irrelevant whether or not Barack bangs dudes and smokes crack at this point.

"Always surrender."

Posted by: Our Side at August 31, 2023 05:49 PM (AbL8c)

440 So THAT'S what Brooks saw in Obama. A fellow traveler....on the Hershey highway.

Posted by: Kitchner Lesley at August 31, 2023 05:57 PM (CgQvH)

441 ... but I don't think any of that is clear or "obvious" from Larry Sinclair's claims. If you can have plausible doubts about a claim, then the claim is not "obviously" true.

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Tucker also has said it's "obvious" that they're going to try to kill Trump.

I'd say that it's more like a 99% certainty ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at August 31, 2023 06:08 PM (9bD9f)

442 You know what? Fuck Gaylord the Purple-Lipped Peen Pleaser. With the endless stream of lies, slanders, and gaslighting from the communist/democrat left, until he proves otherwise, he's just another crack- and pole-smoking jackass.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at August 31, 2023 07:28 PM (dfpOV)

443 Why do all these homosexuals keep sucking my cock???

Posted by: President Barack Obama at August 31, 2023 07:50 PM (cDbti)

444 So the cocaine in the WH was obamas, or Obamas lover?

Posted by: Gonzotx at August 31, 2023 09:58 PM (ozaby)

445 Tucka has been around our most vile hitizens in Sodom on Potomac for 35 years. Unless Ace has been there longer, which I suspect he has, then I will tend to believe Tucka more than many.

Jeb! Ron!

Posted by: Danimal28 at September 01, 2023 08:19 AM (ryUqI)

446 There used to be a website called HillBuzz run by gay Chicago based supporters of Hillary Clinton. They were fairly specific about the taint lapping activities of Bathhouse Barry in the 1990's.

Posted by: Coregis at September 01, 2023 09:14 AM (UxKL/)

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