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Analyst: Disney Is In "Spin Mode" Over Latest Ratings Disaster

I noted yesterday that the television app Samba reported that the new Force Is Female Star Wars failure Ahsoka had only garnered a Brian-Stelter-like 1.2 million views over its first few days of release, which is much worse than the previous Disney Star Wars disaster's ratings. Obi-Wan garnered 2.4 million viewers in its debut, and was, as far as I hear, just a wretched piece of shit top to bottom and back to front.

I hear that Ahsoka is far less aggressively awful, and that' a problem: You expect your terrible shows to get bad ratings. But if you put out a show that is good -- well, let's not get carried away; I hear Ahsoka is okay and at least has a bigger budget than these other cheapo-beepo Disney Star Wars shows -- and that also gets terrible ratings, that means people aren't deciding not to view based on the quality of a specific show.

That means they've tuned out the entire brand.

Like me. I've been off of Star Wars since forever. Now I'm off of Indiana Jones, too, which I never thought I'd be.

I loved Indiana Jones. Every time I've gone to the theater since I was a kid, I was going specifically to relive the experience of seeing Raiders of the Lost Ark. My entire movie-going history has been nothing but chasing the dragon from that first transcendent, revelatory high I experienced watching Raiders.

And now? I mean, the whole thing's a bit stupid, isn't it?*

I'm only interested in this for the cultural-political ramifications. I would not watch a Star Wars show or movie if my only alternative was to eat a Bantha's butt.

But don't listen to me. I'm just an aging pseudo-nerd who is currently re-obsessed with The Lord of the Rings. Listen to Bounding Into Comics and Valiant Renegade.


Financial and box office analyst Valliant Renegade declared The Walt Disney Company was putting out some major spin when they announced that their latest Star Wars Disney+ series brought in 14 million views globally.

The official StarWars.com website announced in a blog post, "Lucasfilm and The Walt Disney Company are thrilled and humbled to announce that Part One of Ahsoka, "Master and Apprentice," was the most-watched title on Disney+ this past week. The debut episode garnered 14 million views, making the series number one globally on the streaming platform."

Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy added, "Ahsoka has become a fan favorite with people of all ages and it's wonderful to see her continue to resonate with viewers in her very own headlining series."

"I want to recognize the fantastic work done by our creative team, led by Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau, the incredible cast led by Rosario Dawson, and our talented crew -- and on behalf of the team and all of Lucasfilm, we give our thanks to all the fans who have been with Ahsoka on every step of her journey and to all those who are just learning about her now in Ahsoka on Disney+," she added.

This ditzy disaster artist sounds like sandpaper on skin even in print.


This post came after it was reported by third party data tracking firm Samba TV that Ahsoka's viewership in the United States was far worse than previous Star Wars Disney+ series with the exception of Andor.

Samba TV reported Ahsoka was only watched by 1.2 million U.S. households over its first six days.

This was far less than previous premieres such as The Mandalorian Season 3, which they noted drew in 1.6 million U.S. households.

It was also below Obi-Wan Kenobi, which they reported as bringing in 2.14 million U.S. households in its first four days streaming on Disney+.

The ratings are based on views over a different number of days, so over three or four days Obi-Wan got 2.14 million, but over six days it got 2.4. Ahsoka got 1.2 million views over six days, and Obi-Wan got 2.4 over the same period, doubling Ahsoka's rating.

Reacting to this information, Valliant Renegade stated, "Ahsoka has now officially performed at half, half of Obi-Wan Kenobi and from as best we can tell about half of the six day total that would be the Season 2 premiere of The Mandalorian from a couple of years ago."

He then shared, "What's interesting about that is that over time The Walt Disney Company has added nearly 50% more subscribers to the Disney+ service going from around 30 million when Mando Season 2 premiered to today where there are about 45 million subscribers."

Later he states, "So as Disney+ subscribers have been going steadily up over the last several years the overall trend in viewership for Disney+'s 'core' content as Bob Iger calls it, that being both Star Wars and Marvel, for that matter, have been steadily on decline."

Apparently Disney is claiming 14 million viewers -- 14 million global viewers, not US (or even North American) viewers.

Valiant Renegade says that "does not seem terribly impressive" when compared to the ratings of House of the Dragon, which got ten million views in the US alone, and on just its first night. Over a week, it got 20 million views.

Valiant Renegade discusses Disney's bizarre New Math of obtaining its "14 million viewers" figure. Even though Disney actually knows, down to the viewer, down to the minute, how many viewers watched its shows and how many minutes they watched them for -- every time a viewer watches something, they interact with Disney's servers, and Disney's servers tabulate each viewer minute -- Disney chose an ass-backwards formulation of something like "dividing the total number of minutes watched divided by the total runtime available" to get its 14 million figure.

If you hide the real number, which you definitely have and which is easy to produce, in favor of some bizarro statistic that would baffle Strat-O-Matic nerds, you're doing that because the real numbers are bad.

WDW_Pro has an update on the Kathleen Kennedy situation. WDW_Pro is proud to say that, unlike some YouTubers (cough Doomcock cough), he personally has never previously reported that sources were telling him that Kaffeine Kennedy is on her way out.

But now he is hearing that. Her contract is up in 3Q 2024 and she won't be renewed. And Iger would like to get her out the door without her crying "R@pe!"

But the strike is complicating these plans. Kaffeine Kennedy would like to announce her retirement just before a big Hollywood awards show, like the Oscars best of all, so that she can collect a Lifetime Achievement Award within weeks of her announcement. She would like to point to all the wildly successful movies that were made by very talented men she fetched coffee for, and then quickly gloss over the string of massive failures she produced when she was actually in charge.

But with the strike on, there are no awards shows, and Kaffeine Kennedy won't go unless she can be guaranteed an award at a major public event as she leaves.

So she may just stay on through October 2024, waiting for her chance to get the recognition and applause she in no way deserves.

And speaking of strikes:

The strikes continue, and I am very happy.

Just hours after the studios and streamers made public their latest "comprehensive package" toward a deal with the striking WGA, the guild has responded -- and it seems the AMPTP and top CEOs might have overplayed their hand strategically.

In fact, 113 days into the writers strike, talks look to have broken down altogether -- again.

"On Monday of this week, we received an invitation to meet with Bob Iger, Donna Langley, Ted Sarandos, David Zaslav and Carol Lombardini," the WGA Negotiating Committee said in an email about tonight's meeting just sent out to members (see it in full below). "It was accompanied by a message that it was past time to end this strike and that the companies were finally ready to bargain a deal. We accepted that invitation and, in good faith, met tonight, in hopes that the companies were serious about getting the industry back to work."

At this point in its succinct note to members, the WGA unveils a very different POV on what went down with Iger, Sarandos and the gang and the August 11 proposal they put forth -- at least very different from the hyperbole the AMPTP put out there earlier Tuesday amid the press blackout. Besides taking a swipe at the CEOs for dramatically misreading the room, the guild's perspective reads much more that the AMPTP was trying to hype the whole thing and score some much-needed PR points tonight rather than seeking an end to Hollywood's long-running production shutdown and labor strife.

"Instead, on the 113th day of the strike -- and while SAG-AFTRA is walking the picket lines by our side -- we were met with a lecture about how good their single and only counteroffer was," the Negotiating Committee led by Ellen Stutzman, David Goodman and Chris Keyser said of the off-site sit-down with the CEOs and AMPTP chief. "But this wasn't a meeting to make a deal. This was a meeting to get us to cave, which is why, not 20 minutes after we left the meeting, the AMPTP released its summary of their proposals."

Openly deriding the studios' public relations move Tuesday night, the WGA added: "This was the companies' plan from the beginning -- not to bargain, but to jam us. It is their only strategy -- to bet that we will turn on each other."


Well, you did call for a very costly strike that is destroying the industry even more than it was already destroying itself, so yeah, they want to break you. Well-spotted. Ten points to Gryffindor.

Disney bet the farm on streaming, and even entertainment reporters, who are generally shills for the industry, are admitting that streaming is a bust.

When the world looks back in, say, 30 years, the halcyon days of streaming will be looked upon as optimistic and fleeting--a time when Silicon Valley largesse meant Amazon would drop hundreds of millions of dollars on the Tolkien adaptation Rings of Power and Netflix would back money trucks up to Shonda Rhimes' house so she could develop Bridgerton. In all likelihood, those kinds of deals will still exist in 2053, but as competition in the streaming space gets tighter, the moonshot projects will likely be fewer and the emphasis on return-on-investment will only increase.

Until now, streamers have been spending money like drunken sailors on loss-leader crap, claiming that they have to lose a lot of money now to win the streaming wars to make money later. Disney, in particular, spent hugely to offer New and Exciting Star Wars and Marvel "content," spending $200 million+ per 6-8 episode series to produce stuff that looked only somewhat more expensive than T.J. Hooker.

And now that it's clear that no one will win the streaming wars -- Netflix will keep its top spot, which isn't so much a win as a "holding pat" -- all that spending must be wound down, and quickly.

Where is the Joe Biden of Hollywood to drop $2.4 trillion on a Vegas reboot?


This writing has been on the wall for a while, but got reinforced this week when The Hollywood Reporter pointed out that streamers are increasingly guiding users to ad-supported versions of their services, largely by increasing the cost of their ad-free tiers. Earlier this month, Disney announced that the cost per month of Disney+ and Hulu would be going up three bucks. Paramount+ swapped its $10 ad-free plan for a $12 one that includes Showtime. Netflix offers a $7/month ad-backed plan and a premium one that costs more than $15. Peacock, in July, upped the price of its ad-supported version by one dollar and its ad-free iteration by two.

As long foretold, this all just seems like streaming becoming the new cable TV. Now that there are more streaming services than there used to be network television stations, people are trying to save money on all those subscriptions. If ads help them do that, so be it.

But if every streamer is just a TV network, or some sort of modern-day HBO-in-the-'90s equivalent, that could leave content like The Peripheral or A League of Their Own in the lurch.

...

This is what we mean when we say no one is winning the streaming wars. It's not that one day there won't be streaming services, or that just one or two will dominate, it's that eventually mergers, consolidations, and spinoffs will leave viewers choosing between a handful of channels they really want, just like they chose cable packages in the past.

To be honest, none of the new crap is any better than the old crap -- often its just woke and vulgar -- and the old crap is free on Pluto and Tubi and FreeVee, so why pay for new crap?

One more Disney story: WDW_Pro (I think) and Legal Mindset also reported on an new shareholder suit lodged against Disney. It makes a claim that the Disney officers lied to shareholders about the prospects of Disney "Plus" ever becoming profitable, thus inducing them to hold on to a stock which would stagnate and then decline in value, costing them money.

And they add to it an even juicier allegation: that former CEO Bob Chapek and former CFO Christina McCarthy sold a big lot of their shares in Disney very near Disney's peak in 2021. And that they used insider information to make their decision to sell. The suit claims that these two knew that Disney "Plus" would not become profitable and would not meet it subscription goals in 2022 or 2023. They knew, it is alleged, that Disney's initial surge of subscriptions was over and that subscription growth was at a standstill.

But Bob Chapek did not tell shareholders that, the suit alleges. Rather, he went out publicly and declared that he was "confident" Disney "Plus" would be profitable by 2024.

Note that Disney "Plus" has racked up $1 billion to $1.5 billion in losses eery quarter and sure looks likely to continue doing so through 2024.

Legal Mindset says there is no way Disney will chance the discovery process so they will pay these shareholders off for their losses and legal bill.

The trouble is: Every other Disney shareholder will see this and may also demand similar compensation.

Fun, fun, fun.

Wow, Disney really is producing high-quality entertainment the whole family can enjoy!

* Okay I was exaggerating. Although my Indiana Jones fandom is much-diminished, I'd still watch Raiders again.

I'm less interested in the two (yes, 2) sequels, though, and I used to like those a lot. Now both feel like what they are -- franchise IP-exploitation cash-grabs.

And we've had so, so many franchise IP-exploitation cash-grabs lately.

Thanks to Alabama for that.

Posted by: Ace at 03:37 PM




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1 1st

Posted by: GF at September 01, 2023 03:36 PM (aJxr8)

2 Test

Posted by: GF at September 01, 2023 03:37 PM (aJxr8)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 01, 2023 03:37 PM (IXZGh)

4 Test
Posted by: GF at September 01, 2023 03:37 PM



FAILED! Now get out of my classroom.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 01, 2023 03:37 PM (IXZGh)

5 "I hear Ahsoka is okay"

It may be. But it's also openly female-centric, and that usually spells "eventually the feminism is going to come out, followed by aggressive lesbianism."

Hollywood can't help themselves at this point.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 01, 2023 03:38 PM (H9sxy)

6 Yea, Disney thread!

Burn, mouse, burn.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 03:38 PM (xcxpd)

7 Not Sponge... and loving it.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 01, 2023 03:39 PM (TGPs7)

8 Hey a fun post.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 01, 2023 03:39 PM (zZu0s)

9 Kill the House of Mouse!

Posted by: Hawkpilot at September 01, 2023 03:39 PM (k6uu5)

10 I noticed Amazon's Wheel of Time Season 2 is now available. At least the first episode.

The first season was so terrible there is NOTHING they will be able to do to reclaim the previous audience or grow their audience with new viewers.

I can't even bring myself to hate watch it because the story has already diverged into unrecognizable fan fiction.

It was WORSE than Amazon's Rings of Power in so, so many ways.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 03:39 PM (ywa9W)

11 Holy crap… this post extends into the next Time Zone!!!

Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 03:40 PM (PCK5/)

12 Openly deriding the studios' public relations move Tuesday night, the WGA added: "This was the companies' plan from the beginning -- not to bargain, but to jam us. It is their only strategy -- to bet that we will turn on each other."

Well, you have no hand and are idiots. They are too, but they hold the money.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 01, 2023 03:40 PM (zZu0s)

13 In Memory of Sponge

Posted by: rd at September 01, 2023 03:40 PM (KwDUa)

14 I also reject Ahsoka as being fan fiction.

No fucking way Anakin had time to have a Padawan for the brief window of time he was qualified to have one.

Fuck Star Wars and Dave Felloni

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 03:40 PM (xcxpd)

15 It was WORSE than Amazon's Rings of Power in so, so many ways.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 03:39 PM (ywa9W)

I refuse to even try an episode.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 01, 2023 03:40 PM (zZu0s)

16 From GloboHomo to GloboPedo in two easy threads.

Posted by: wth at September 01, 2023 03:41 PM (v0R5T)

17 Not Sponge... and loving it.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 01, 2023 03:39 PM (TGPs7)



As you SHOULD be.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 01, 2023 03:41 PM (IXZGh)

18 Willowed, and I love the Disney train wreck:

We are nearing Third World country status, if we are not already there.

A snippet from the Barrick annual report I received today, under 'cautionary statement on forward looking activities:

"expropriation or nationalization of property and political or economic developments in Canada, the United States, or other countries in which Barrick does or may carry on business in the future,"


Lovely.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 01, 2023 03:37 PM (ufFY

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 01, 2023 03:41 PM (ufFY8)

19 S-U-C
K-E-Y
M-O-U-S-E...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 01, 2023 03:41 PM (TGPs7)

20 13 In Memory of Sponge
Posted by: rd at September 01, 2023 03:40 PM (KwDUa)

Absent friends.

*pours one out for Sponge*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 01, 2023 03:41 PM (zZu0s)

21 Streaming has enabled 11th-dimensional Hollywood Accounting.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at September 01, 2023 03:41 PM (TObdq)

22 Ahsoka was also a good Bollywood film about . . . wait for it . . . Ahsoka the Great. Some smokeshow Indian girls in it too. When I saw the advertising for Disney's shitstained "Ahsoka," I thought it was a series based on the Indian hero. I had no idea that there was an Ahsoka that was part of the Star Wars sewer system.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 01, 2023 03:42 PM (iFTx/)

23 Tolkien created an absolute masterpiec… Jackson took it and because he loved it created wonderful movies… everything else is just shit…

Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 03:42 PM (PCK5/)

24 Hey a fun post.

In what way is this "fun post"? Just curious.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 01, 2023 03:42 PM (V8he0)

25 And of course the internet is all aflame with video from that ugly little troll they have playing Snow Brown, narcissisting her way through every medium that puts a camera in her face.

Not unlike U.S. foreign policy, it's hard to see how, if they were intending to destroy themselves, they would be doing anything different.

Except unlike the neocons, these people claim to actually NOT want to make an enemy of Chi Nah.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 01, 2023 03:42 PM (dGCAG)

26 ....and that's how the internet rumors get started.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 01, 2023 03:43 PM (IXZGh)

27 I noted yesterday that the television app Samba reported that the new Force Is Female Star Wars failure Ahsoka had only garnered a Brian-Stelter-like 1.2 million views over its first few days of release, which is much worse than the previous Disney Star Wars disaster's ratings. Obi-Wan garnered 2.4 million viewers in its debut, and was, as far as I hear, just a wretched piece of shit top to bottom and back to front.
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Each failure sets the expectation for the next one. The *only* Star Wars project since Rogue One that had any real success (other than inertia) was The Mandalorian, and that hit the skids after Season Two, turning into everything else.

Not even the program that many seemed to actually kinda like - Andor - did well.

Star Wars is finished. It's a dead property. It might be salvageable, but not by the current crew and not anytime soon. It needs a pause of at least a couple of years, and then someone else can try again And then - crucially - deliver the goods. Good stories, good production. And it will still fail for the first few productions, because the well has been poisoned. Keep it up and it can regain its reputation.

But not now. Now, it's name is mud.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 03:43 PM (t0OGg)

28 It was WORSE than Amazon's Rings of Power in so, so many ways.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 03:39 PM (ywa9W)

I refuse to even try an episode.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 01, 2023 03:40 PM (zZu0s)
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As I've said before, they broke the entire lore of the source material in the very first sentence of the very first episode. I don't believe any other adaptation comes close.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 03:43 PM (ywa9W)

29 I had no idea that there was an Ahsoka that was part of the Star Wars sewer system.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 01, 2023 03:42 PM (iFTx/)

Part of the clone wars EU stuff. Never seen it, but people seemed to like Clone Wars as a show.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 01, 2023 03:43 PM (zZu0s)

30
In what way is this "fun post"? Just curious.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 01, 2023 03:42 PM (V8he0)



How can the discussion of the demise of a liberal shithole entity NOT be fun?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 01, 2023 03:43 PM (IXZGh)

31 I'm only interested in this for the cultural-political ramifications. I would not watch a Star Wars show or movie if my only alternative was to eat a Bantha's butt.
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Yup. I'm here for the knock-on effects.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 03:43 PM (t0OGg)

32 LOL. In 30 years, people might be making big money media deals. But not in the US. That country's popular culture is tapped out. Spent. This media landscape reeks of death.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 01, 2023 03:43 PM (zdRN1)

33 Omg, Wheel of Time was hideous.
I think I got through the first episode, and maybe two minutes of the second.


And what creature is that Ashoka?
What are those two braid things hanging from her head?
And does she have nice tits?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 01, 2023 03:44 PM (ufFY8)

34 ....and that's how the internet rumors get started.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 01, 2023 03:43 PM (IXZGh)

=====

Say hi to Buzzion for us.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 01, 2023 03:44 PM (DRSnL)

35 This ditzy disaster artist sounds like sandpaper on skin even in print.
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Ouch.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 03:44 PM (t0OGg)

36 maybe disney can do a remake of 'cuties'.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 01, 2023 03:44 PM (B1FKF)

37

It's all been downhill since Donald Duck gave up his cloaca for Goofy. ..

Posted by: Buddy Hackett at September 01, 2023 03:45 PM (+iKyL)

38 I don't understand all these endless Star Wars series and spin-offs and half-assed (attempted) cash grabs. The Star Wars universe is over, it's dead. Every facet has been beaten to death, resurrected as a shambling zombie, beaten to death again, and the gravesite covered in salt and Pete Bootyjuice's anal leakage.

Yet still Disney persists . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 01, 2023 03:45 PM (iFTx/)

39 Irony: a post that is as long as a movie review is about a company that makes movies.

Posted by: Montec at September 01, 2023 03:45 PM (NI9xX)

40
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Say hi to Buzzion for us.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 01, 2023 03:44 PM (DRSnL)



My primary mission is Chavez the Hugo. Full Stop.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 01, 2023 03:45 PM (IXZGh)

41 24 Hey a fun post.

In what way is this "fun post"? Just curious.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 01, 2023 03:42 PM (V8he0)

How is mocking Woke Disney not fun?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 03:45 PM (xcxpd)

42 Star Wars is finished. It's a dead property. It might be salvageable, but not by the current crew and not anytime soon. It needs a pause of at least a couple of years, and then someone else can try again And then - crucially - deliver the goods. Good stories, good production. And it will still fail for the first few productions, because the well has been poisoned. Keep it up and it can regain its reputation.

But not now. Now, it's name is mud.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 03:43 PM (t0OGg)
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I'd say both Star Wars and Marvel need a hiatus of at least a decade, if not two decades.

Disney has destroyed both brands for at least a generation. Let their current catalog disappear into obscurity until someone with talent is able to resurrect the IP.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 03:45 PM (ywa9W)

43 Say hi to Buzzion for us.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 01, 2023 03:44 PM (DRSnL)


My primary mission is Chavez the Hugo. Full Stop.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 01, 2023 03:45 PM (IXZGh)

Aim high, Chavez was a poet.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 03:46 PM (xcxpd)

44 It was WORSE than Amazon's Rings of Power in so, so many ways.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 03:39 PM (ywa9W)

I'm sure you've heard Amazon is cancelling some of their Woke garbage. Not enough of it, apparently.

Something to do with the corporate overlords finally paying attention to what the "entertainment" division was up to, and not being too keen on throwing hundreds of millions of dollars down the hobbit hole.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 01, 2023 03:46 PM (dGCAG)

45 Disney's history is basically the US for the past 100 years. The graph's would be identical.

Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at September 01, 2023 03:46 PM (sX1BW)

46 He then shared, "What's interesting about that is that over time The Walt Disney Company has added nearly 50% more subscribers to the Disney+ service going from around 30 million when Mando Season 2 premiered to today where there are about 45 million subscribers."
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Yup. And the implication of that is fairly disastrous for Disney+: Star Wars is not a draw.

Well, shit. Now what? Star Wars isn't a draw. Modern Disney movies aren't a draw. Pixar is essentially dead at this point. Marvel is ever less of a draw. So what's left?

The old library and licensed content. That's it. And a lot of the billions Disney has been pissing away on D+ original content might as well have chucked into a furnace. Any more money they throw into the maw of D+ Original Programming is going to be the equivalent of setting it on fire.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 03:47 PM (t0OGg)

47 DIE, Mickey Mouse! Faster! Faster!

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at September 01, 2023 03:47 PM (jcbZW)

48 Ashoka episode 3 review

https://tinyurl.com/y3xeumjr

Summary: it aint good

Posted by: rd at September 01, 2023 03:47 PM (wi4mA)

49 But don't listen to me. I'm just an aging pseudo-nerd

Don't sell yourself short. You're a genuine nerd.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 03:47 PM (I/Qkd)

50 Hey a fun post.

In what way is this "fun post"? Just curious.

------------

The same way reading Crime and Punishment is fun.

Making it through is an accomplishment that you can brag on the rest of your life.

Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at September 01, 2023 03:47 PM (sX1BW)

51 Let their current catalog disappear into obscurity until someone with talent is able to resurrect the IP.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 03:45 PM (ywa9W)

No.

The constant resurrection of old property is the leading indicator of lack-of-talent.

Let talented people do something new and cool. If any can be found.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 01, 2023 03:48 PM (zdRN1)

52 Who will lose their job first, Biden or Kathleen Kennedy?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 01, 2023 03:48 PM (KbCG3)

53 There is still another pile of Star Wars crap to come. Acolyte?

All female, all gay from what I understand.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 01, 2023 03:48 PM (zZu0s)

54 But the strike is complicating these plans. Kaffeine Kennedy would like to announce her retirement just before a big Hollywood awards show, like the Oscars best of all, so that she can collect a Lifetime Achievement Award within weeks of her announcement. She would like to point to all the wildly successful movies that were made by very talented men she fetched coffee for, and then quickly gloss over the string of massive failures she produced when she was actually in charge.
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And it will work. She will get at least one major "Lifetime Achievement Award." She will get a comfortable pension in the form of Executive Producer status and some coin with a bunch of Lucasfilm productions in the future. She'll get to go onto the red carpet at premiers and have her butt kissed by a fawning industry press.

All in exchange for detonating multiple cultural icons and a multi-billion-dollar business.

Hollywood, baby!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 03:49 PM (t0OGg)

55 29 I had no idea that there was an Ahsoka that was part of the Star Wars sewer system.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 01, 2023 03:42 PM (iFTx/)

Part of the clone wars EU stuff. Never seen it, but people seemed to like Clone Wars as a show.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 01, 2023 03:43 PM (zZu0s)
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Yea, I've since come to learn that, but had no idea at the time. Disney seems to be targeting obscure demographics with shit like this, and then fucking the pig with that demo by shitting woke all over it.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 01, 2023 03:49 PM (iFTx/)

56 How can the discussion of the demise of a liberal shithole entity NOT be fun?

I'm sure it is for many here and I'm all for the demise. I'm just Disney'd out at this point. Don't subscribe to, or partake of their stupid product. Have fun, folks. I'll just bow out of the thread semi-gracefully.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 01, 2023 03:49 PM (V8he0)

57 Yet still Disney persists . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 01, 2023 03:45 PM (iFTx/)

Pixie Dusters and weirdo adults that are brainwashed help keep it alive.
Plus, they have a cruise line, and ESPN, which brings in a shitload of cash.
BUT, their persistence in making shitty movies, and their streaming losses are starting to catch up with them.
Legal Mindset and Valiant Renegade said once that their $1b/quarter loss is equivalent to sinking one cruise ship per quarter.

LOL

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 01, 2023 03:49 PM (ufFY8)

58 Screw Disney. They've been squeezing every nickel out of park-goers for years.

Posted by: mr tmz at September 01, 2023 03:50 PM (rJ48h)

59 Spin mode... Like an augur?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at September 01, 2023 03:50 PM (qPw5n)

60 No.

The constant resurrection of old property is the leading indicator of lack-of-talent.

Let talented people do something new and cool. If any can be found.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 01, 2023 03:48 PM (zdRN1)
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I'm also OK with that. Let the awesome IPs of the past *influence* the awesome IPs of the future, without overshadowing them or destroying them.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 03:50 PM (ywa9W)

61 "Instead, on the 113th day of the strike -- and while SAG-AFTRA is walking the picket lines by our side -- we were met with a lecture about how good their single and only counteroffer was," the Negotiating Committee led by Ellen Stutzman, David Goodman and Chris Keyser said of the off-site sit-down with the CEOs and AMPTP chief. "But this wasn't a meeting to make a deal. This was a meeting to get us to cave, which is why, not 20 minutes after we left the meeting, the AMPTP released its summary of their proposals."
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So, they were called in to surrender. Okay. Then the AMPTP is:
1. In a position of unquestionable strength and knows it can win the war of attrition and will compromise on nothing
2. Making a last gasp at paper tiger strength before it capitulates

My nickel's on Door Number One.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 03:51 PM (t0OGg)

62 Let talented people do something new and cool. If any can be found.

They're out there. They're just not welcome in the House of Louse or Whoreywood right now. Proven IP only, new stuff doesn't have a sales record, etc.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 01, 2023 03:51 PM (Bd6X8)

63 There's a lot of talk about how Netflix succeeded in their One Piece live action series, and as a fan of anime (though not this kind) I worry what that means.

Despite failing the previous 200 times at adapting anime as live action for the west, they'll see this single win as a sign they need to now rape every IP and turn it in to pure crap.

This series had a better chance at succeeding because it skewed younger at the time, whose demographic is now probably in their early 20s and Netflix friendly. It's not very serious, and i think goofs on itself so it's got that connection to shows like Cobra Kai. And it's a show whose original audience just eats up everything they're given having to do with the show, or similar shows. And im guessing this is once of those series that OnlyWhores dress up as to get lonely dweebs to send them money, so it'll pull those viewers.

So hopefully if this does lead to some streaming boom for anime adaptations, they stick to these figity little boy series, and not ruin older classics that they'll demand meet DEI criteria (funny they basically bragged about that for Cowboy Bebop, but suddenly Asian shows no longer need Asian leads)

Posted by: Rbastid at September 01, 2023 03:51 PM (obL+U)

64 There is still another pile of Star Wars crap to come. Acolyte?

All female, all gay from what I understand.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 01, 2023 03:48 PM (zZu0s)
.......

Lesbo Space Chicks? Hmmm...

Posted by: wth at September 01, 2023 03:52 PM (v0R5T)

65 It all makes me happy that I've switched to reading 70's and 80's manga. A whole lotta non-woke entertainment out there, in the past.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 03:52 PM (xcxpd)

66 "Ah, so ka" sounds like a Japanese phrase. One which probably means, "No, gaijin, we will not watch this crap!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 01, 2023 03:52 PM (J2vNu)

67 Watching TV is supposed to be fun and easy. Who wants to pay $2K a year for several channels and figure out every evening which of your four remotes you should use and where the hell that one show is that you kind of liked. And to find something that isn't 40 years old or full of F-bombs (cuz they're hip now) or PC lectures, like the rom-coms on Amazon.

I just dropped them and got Criterion for $99/year. No muss, no fuss, just movies and interviews.

Oh, and who has watched Obama's $40million tour of national parks, lol?

Posted by: PJ at September 01, 2023 03:52 PM (G1dq6)

68 33 Omg, Wheel of Time was hideous.
I think I got through the first episode, and maybe two minutes of the second.


And what creature is that Ashoka?
What are those two braid things hanging from her head?
And does she have nice tits?

Inquiring minds want to know.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 01, 2023 03:44 PM (ufFY
__________

I sat through two episodes of Wheel of Shit and then was done with it. Absolutely terrible. It was less fun than sticking your dick in a bear trap. And I've been a fan of fantasy ever since I was a kid and my dad (a big sci-fi and fantasy fan) gave me the Elric series to read.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 01, 2023 03:52 PM (iFTx/)

69 One of the weirdest movies I have ever seen in my life is 'The Black Hole'. It's a very strange business, and that metaphysical ending!

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 03:52 PM (/BBNv)

70 re 50: yeah, i gave up after like maybe 120 pages. that and faulkner's 'sound and fury'.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 01, 2023 03:52 PM (B1FKF)

71 So it's a movie thread, then?

Posted by: I gotta ask at September 01, 2023 03:53 PM (k8SNg)

72 I'd say both Star Wars and Marvel need a hiatus of at least a decade, if not two decades.

Disney has destroyed both brands for at least a generation.


Just spitballing here, but couldn't they do something like they've done with James Bond? You know, gather all the characters on screen together, and then vaporize them with a missile. I'd watch that.

Well, only if Kathleen Kennedy and Iger were front and center, but definitely then.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 03:53 PM (I/Qkd)

73 Hey a fun post.

In what way is this "fun post"? Just curious.

Not T v D.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 01, 2023 03:53 PM (zZu0s)

74 Ashoka is not good unless you like pacing akin to watching paint dry.

There is also the problem that only white guys like Qui-Jon and Han Solo can die from a lightsaber through the chest. Reva and what's her name in Ashoka can be stabbed the same way but live.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 01, 2023 03:53 PM (QhFOu)

75 Let talented people do something new and cool. If any can be found.
They're out there. They're just not welcome in the House of Louse or Whoreywood right now. Proven IP only, new stuff doesn't have a sales record, etc.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310'

I'm right here! I'll script a shitty screenplay for a million dollars!

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 03:53 PM (/BBNv)

76 Lesbo Space Chicks? Hmmm...
Posted by: wth at September 01, 2023 03:52 PM (v0R5T)

Not the fun kind.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 01, 2023 03:53 PM (zZu0s)

77 And now that it's clear that no one will win the streaming wars -- Netflix will keep its top spot, which isn't so much a win as a "holding pat" -- all that spending must be wound down, and quickly.
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Yup. The bigger problem than content costs is the revenue destruction, and the studios will not be able to survive what they have done to themselves with captive streaming services.

Home video (VHS/DVD/Blu-Ray)? Gone.
Licensing revenues from third-party streaming services? Gone.
Syndicated broadcast? Gone.

The money pouring in from distribution is not there anymore. It moves from Disney to D+, for example, and that's it. The long tail of entertainment revenue has been cropped.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 03:54 PM (t0OGg)

78 The Chosen.

Posted by: Come and see at September 01, 2023 03:54 PM (k8SNg)

79 me the Elric series to read.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 01, 2023 03:52 PM (iFTx/)

Elric of Melnibone.
I learned about that from BOC songs.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 01, 2023 03:54 PM (ufFY8)

80 Lesbo Space Chicks? Hmmm...
Posted by: wth at September 01, 2023 03:52 PM (v0R5T)



2069: A Space Odyssey

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 01, 2023 03:54 PM (IXZGh)

81 I hear Ahsoka is okay and at least has a bigger budget than these other cheapo-beepo Disney Star Wars shows

Ace breaking out the insider showbiz lingo ...

Posted by: spindrift at September 01, 2023 03:54 PM (y3wha)

82 Let It Burn

Posted by: rickb223 at September 01, 2023 03:54 PM (5apCz)

83 23 Tolkien created an absolute masterpiec… Jackson took it and because he loved it created wonderful movies… everything else is just shit…
Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 03:42 PM (PCK5/)

Jackson's Bilbo Baggins was totally a ghey twink.

Posted by: Auspex at September 01, 2023 03:54 PM (j4U/Z)

84 Ace, it gets even better (oops, I mean worse) for Disney.

Turns out that DIS and Charter Communications (CHTR) are having a dispute over rates for ESPN, D-, and other properties that are broadcast over Charter's Spectrum Network, which covers NY and other Eastern territories. It got so bad that DIS pulled ESPN from broadcast yesterday, in the middle of US Open coverage. They're playing hardball, and CHTR is holding the line on keeping rates the same. With viewers going OTT that hurts them in the long run, so they need to stop the bleeding on their end.

Long story short, this is another front in the war on DIS. Stock right now is down over 2% on that news.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 01, 2023 03:55 PM (/iWhV)

85 The first three Indiana Jones movies are the only ones rated exist as far as I'm concerned

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at September 01, 2023 03:55 PM (OA+E4)

86 I'm sure it is for many here and I'm all for the demise. I'm just Disney'd out at this point. Don't subscribe to, or partake of their stupid product. Have fun, folks. I'll just bow out of the thread semi-gracefully.

I have not yet begun to gloat.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 03:55 PM (I/Qkd)

87 I love these Disney posts. I think perhaps 10 or 15 years from now it will be an interesting study in how a woke company committed suicide.

Also, I watched the first two episodes of Rings of Power and ended up with a headache. There was just no magic there, certainly not like Peter Jackson's movies.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 01, 2023 03:55 PM (6xRrr)

88 Greg Price
@greg_price11
Biden brags about the unemployment rate being "below 14% for the last 19 months."

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That's the metric. Under 14%.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 01, 2023 03:55 PM (FVME7)

89 I'm calling a fucking YAHTZEE on this day.

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 01, 2023 03:55 PM (0Xe/H)

90 I'd say both Star Wars and Marvel need a hiatus of at least a decade, if not two decades.

Disney has destroyed both brands for at least a generation. Let their current catalog disappear into obscurity until someone with talent is able to resurrect the IP.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 03:45 PM (ywa9W

==============

Except with content hungry Digital Broadcast TV, even shitty, direct to bargain bin movies are being regularly shown on Television.

This TV channel is one of the best/worst. They constantly replay a lot of really bad SF movies and other cruddy movies bookended by lousy reality Television Series.

The terrible woke Star Wars and Marvel movies will find a perpetual home on these TV channels. The stench will never disappear.

Posted by: rd at September 01, 2023 03:55 PM (4BZ1y)

91 84 Ace, it gets even better (oops, I mean worse) for Disney.

Turns out that DIS and Charter Communications (CHTR) are having a dispute over rates for ESPN, D-, and other properties that are broadcast over Charter's Spectrum Network, which covers NY and other Eastern territories. It got so bad that DIS pulled ESPN from broadcast yesterday, in the middle of US Open coverage. They're playing hardball, and CHTR is holding the line on keeping rates the same. With viewers going OTT that hurts them in the long run, so they need to stop the bleeding on their end.

Long story short, this is another front in the war on DIS. Stock right now is down over 2% on that news.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 01, 2023 03:55 PM (/iWhV)

I guess they pulled the plug just before the Florida-Utah football game. Fun, fun!

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 01, 2023 03:55 PM (KbCG3)

92 English New Wave Sci-Fi and Fantasy was a mistake.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 03:56 PM (xcxpd)

93 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 01, 2023 03:56 PM (T4tVD)

94 Lesbo Space Chicks? Hmmm...
Posted by: wth at September 01, 2023 03:52 PM (v0R5T)


2069: A Space Odyssey
Posted by: Sponge


2068: You Do Me & I Owe You One Odyssey

Posted by: rickb223 at September 01, 2023 03:56 PM (5apCz)

95 I think the Deep State will hold on to Sundowner as long as he is breathing

Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2023 03:56 PM (MOY79)

96 Note that Disney "Plus" has racked up $1 billion to $1.5 billion in losses eery quarter and sure looks likely to continue doing so through 2024.
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In fairness, it only lost like $600+ million per the last earnings call. So the rate of bleeding is declining, but it's nowhere near break-even. And they have to make up at least ten billion dollars to offset the losses to date.

It ain't gonna happen. Disney is going to buy Hulu because it has to, and then will find a way to merge the services to apply Hulu's revenue stream (which is enormous - Hulu is one of the fairly few profitable streaming services to D+. D+ will be saved on paper, they will declare victory and the retreat to lick their wounds.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 03:56 PM (t0OGg)

97 Ahsoka was created by Lucas, not Feloni.

Posted by: runner at September 01, 2023 03:56 PM (idBr5)

98 89 I'm calling a fucking YAHTZEE on this day.

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 01, 2023 03:55 PM (0Xe/H)

So you win?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 03:56 PM (xcxpd)

99 So hopefully if this does lead to some streaming boom for anime adaptations, they stick to these figity little boy series, and not ruin older classics that they'll demand meet DEI criteria (funny they basically bragged about that for Cowboy Bebop, but suddenly Asian shows no longer need Asian leads)
Posted by: Rbastid at September 01, 2023 03:51 PM (obL+U)
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The commenters here would make a live-action Slayers a success just with repeated viewings themselves.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 01, 2023 03:56 PM (iFTx/)

100 79 me the Elric series to read.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 01, 2023 03:52 PM (iFTx/)

Elric of Melnibone.
I learned about that from BOC songs.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 01, 2023 03:54 PM (ufFY

Try The Dancers at the End of Time…. very good book… Moorcok’s best, IMO..

Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 03:56 PM (PCK5/)

101 re 50: yeah, i gave up after like maybe 120 pages. that and faulkner's 'sound and fury'.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at September 01, 2023


***
Never tried SaF. I'm no Faulkner fan anyway, and descriptions make it sound like really hard sledding. As for CaP, I'm proud to say I slogged through it during the Sniffle Scare, not having anything else I hadn't re-read. It was fine up until the murder. After that, "Daddy? When is something going to happen?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 01, 2023 03:56 PM (J2vNu)

102 other cheapo-beepo Disney Star Wars shows

Ace breaking out the insider showbiz lingo ...
Posted by: spindrift at September 01, 2023 03:54 PM (y3wha)

*Captain Pike has rolled into the chat*

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 01, 2023 03:56 PM (ufFY8)

103 So it's a movie thread, then?
Posted by: I gotta ask'

Yes! Now explain why and how Ben Wheatley directed The Meg 2.

I love 'Kill List'. I do. It's a brutal update of 'The Wicker Man' and it's frightening and insane. But this sequel? Odd.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 03:56 PM (/BBNv)

104 we were met with a lecture

Now you know how the normie audience has felt for at least the last five years you communist assholes. Hope you starve.

Posted by: Chuck C at September 01, 2023 03:57 PM (xttsV)

105
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That's the metric. Under 14%.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 01, 2023 03:55 PM (FVME7)



That's 47 Million unemployed if the Entire US population was of employment age and willing to work.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 01, 2023 03:57 PM (IXZGh)

106 The nasty trend of twitter denizens saying "we need female Space Marines" have been BTFO.

I sit upon my superior hobby like a golden throne, laughing at you dirty peasants. Warhammer will produce a thousand novels that conspicuously won't pass the Bechtel test.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 01, 2023 03:57 PM (44ww/)

107 Now you know how the normie audience has felt for at least the last five years you communist assholes. Hope you starve.
Posted by: Chuck C at September 01, 2023 03:57 PM (xttsV)
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Roll it up.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 03:57 PM (t0OGg)

108 He probably meant to say under 4% but he is a fucking imbecile and said 14%.

Posted by: Montec at September 01, 2023 03:57 PM (NI9xX)

109 With viewers going OTT that hurts them in the long run, so they need to stop the bleeding on their end.

I have the feeling this has something to do with anal surprise otters, but I can't figure it out.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 03:57 PM (I/Qkd)

110 Looking forward to when The Company Man does a video about the house of mouse.

Posted by: YouTube addict at September 01, 2023 03:58 PM (k8SNg)

111 I'm calling a fucking YAHTZEE on this day.
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan'

Nobody is calling anything until the otter calls in with their .45.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 03:58 PM (/BBNv)

112 I'm calling a fucking YAHTZEE on this day.

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 01, 2023 03:55 PM (0Xe/H)



Five of a kind?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 01, 2023 03:58 PM (IXZGh)

113 Well, you have no hand and are idiots. They are too, but they hold the money.

Posted by: Aetius451AD

//

True. And as soon as the WGA and SAG claim victory for no AI or extra pay, the Biz will move to another state where they get a better deal. They already make most of the movies somewhere else.

Posted by: PJ at September 01, 2023 03:58 PM (G1dq6)

114 104 we were met with a lecture

Now you know how the normie audience has felt for at least the last five years you communist assholes. Hope you starve.
Posted by: Chuck C at September 01, 2023 03:57 PM (xttsV)

There's a bit of a difference.

The lecture they received told them how good the offer was.

The lecture we receive tells us how bad we are.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 01, 2023 03:58 PM (KbCG3)

115 Yes! Now explain why and how Ben Wheatley directed The Meg 2.


He likes to get paid?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at September 01, 2023 03:58 PM (Bd6X8)

116

The path to a screen play used to be a best selling fiction/non-fiction novel or serial from the Saturday Evening Post, a sort of run it up the flagpole to see who salutes thing.

That's gone.

So are the rubes that bought theater tickets after vaudeville was gone ' cause that was the only entertainment around.

Posted by: Auspex at September 01, 2023 03:59 PM (j4U/Z)

117 109 With viewers going OTT that hurts them in the long run, so they need to stop the bleeding on their end.

I have the feeling this has something to do with anal surprise otters, but I can't figure it out.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 03:57 PM (I/Qkd)

In a sense. OTT means "Over The Top", which is a way to get TV access without using the cable companies. It's a potential SMOD for their business.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 01, 2023 03:59 PM (/iWhV)

118 I wonder if culturally bankrupt, late Empire Romans were all endlessly rehashing hits from their own grooveyard of forgotten favorites. Like a race and gender-swapped Non-Consensual Patriarchal Encounter of Lucretia. That sort of crap.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 01, 2023 03:59 PM (zdRN1)

119 Justified: City Primeval gave us eight mediocre episodes and then in the last ten minutes they tease us with the return of Boyd Crowder breaking out of prison. Assholes. The last ten minutes should have been the first ten minutes.

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 01, 2023 03:59 PM (xPl2J)

120 That's 47 Million unemployed if the Entire US population was of employment age and willing to work.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 01, 2023 03:57 PM (IXZGh)

When I leave work early the traffic is worse than during rush hour.

I think that 47 mil is too low a number.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 01, 2023 03:59 PM (dGCAG)

121 what's her name in Ashoka can be stabbed the same way but live.

Help us, Obi-wan Paolo!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at September 01, 2023 03:59 PM (CZccC)

122 Except with content hungry Digital Broadcast TV, even shitty, direct to bargain bin movies are being regularly shown on Television.

This TV channel is one of the best/worst. They constantly replay a lot of really bad SF movies and other cruddy movies bookended by lousy reality Television Series. . . .

Posted by: rd at September 01, 2023


***
This was OTA TV, but Comet ran something the other morning called Killer Sofa. I am not making this up. Some kind of story about a haunted recliner.

I am *not* making this up.

I clicked over to MeTV and watched Barnaby Jones.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 01, 2023 03:59 PM (J2vNu)

123 The commenters here would make a live-action Slayers a success just with repeated viewings themselves.
Posted by: Elric Blade'

On it.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 03:59 PM (/BBNv)

124 I'm re-watching 'The Expanse' on Amazon Prime. I was going to drop AP this year but kept it (shrugs). Figure I should finish this show that I actually liked quite a bit. I tend to get distracted, which is what happened to 'The Expanse' after 2 1/2 seasons. I'm well into Season 2 now. Hopefully I will keep with it. Again, life is a laser pointer and I'm a kittuh.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 01, 2023 04:00 PM (sAmhv)

125 Turns out that DIS and Charter Communications (CHTR) are having a dispute over rates for ESPN, D-, and other properties that are broadcast over Charter's Spectrum Network, which covers NY and other Eastern territories. It got so bad that DIS pulled ESPN from broadcast yesterday, in the middle of US Open coverage. They're playing hardball, and CHTR is holding the line on keeping rates the same. With viewers going OTT that hurts them in the long run, so they need to stop the bleeding on their end. ...
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 01, 2023 03:55 PM (/iWhV)
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Disney wants to have its cake and eat it, too. It can't. It wants to keep commanding brutally high rates for ESPN from the cable carriers until it can flip a switch and convert to OTT (streaming) delivery, which they are not allowed to do right now, because of their carriage contracts with the cable companies.

If Disney wants to take ESPN off of being exclusively cable, they're going to get a fuckton less money from the cable companies. That's the way it is. They wish it was different, but c'est la vie. Disney needs to find a way to keep ESPN financially healthy during the transition, and they may not have the money.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:00 PM (t0OGg)

126 The first three Indiana Jones movies are the only ones rated exist as far as I'm concerned
Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at September 01, 2023 03:55 PM (OA+E4)

========

Star Wars died when those fuzzy little mass merchandise movie placement products appeared in the middle of Return of the Jedi.

Die fuzzy Ewok! Die!

Posted by: rd at September 01, 2023 04:00 PM (VwNU2)

127
I think that 47 mil is too low a number.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 01, 2023 03:59 PM (dGCAG)


It is 14% of 335,000,000.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 01, 2023 04:00 PM (IXZGh)

128 I may have seen "Indiana Jones" and the Raiders of the Lost Ark more than once-probably two times, but none of the other of the series more than once. I didn't see the most recent one.

There are some movies I can watch again and again. One of "His Girl Friday" with Cary Grant and Rosalind Russell. I think I've seen that about six times-and just the other night because it's so fast paced and clever. I've also seen "The Trouble With Angels" quite a few times. It may be that I just really like Rosalind Russell.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2023 04:00 PM (RSbhh)

129 Death!

Death by Bantha's butt!

Posted by: Dark Force Thirsting For Power at September 01, 2023 04:01 PM (QY+6a)

130 There are audio dramas of Corum that are fun, if you like ... heh if ...

zzhhhhcckck hehehe heh *sigh* *whew*

... if you like Moorcock.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 01, 2023 04:01 PM (44ww/)

131 Yes! Now explain why and how Ben Wheatley directed The Meg 2.
He likes to get paid?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310'

After 'A Field In England' he may have owed some men some money.'

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:01 PM (/BBNv)

132 What are the chances that Ace will dump a ghey Crocs thread for garrett?

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 01, 2023 04:02 PM (sjdRT)

133 Obviously, Disney needs the services of a PR genius. Someone like Karine Jean-Pierre, for example.

Posted by: Karine Delecto at September 01, 2023 04:02 PM (sWM8x)

134 I think that 47 mil is too low a number.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 01, 2023 03:59 PM (dGCAG)

It is 14% of 335,000,000.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden'

Math!?

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:02 PM (/BBNv)

135 The nasty trend of twitter denizens saying "we need female Space Marines" have been BTFO.

IoM has a female contingent. The Adepta Sororitas.

Posted by: Halfhand at September 01, 2023 04:02 PM (2/sPZ)

136 In a sense. OTT means "Over The Top", which is a way to get TV access without using the cable companies. It's a potential SMOD for their business.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 01, 2023 03:59 PM (/iWhV)
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Only the addressable cable programming delivery part of the business (that is, the now old-fashioned "cable TV" subscriptions).

This has been a very, very long transition and the cable companies know what's going to happen. That market is essentially going to wind down. It will probably not vanish, but it will be a smart part of the business. The cable companies have essentially become telcos. They provide bandwidth now, and sometimes cellular service. Telco-style services are the main business.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:03 PM (t0OGg)

137 Catching up on today news
American Thinker-Oklahoma has a drag queen elementary school principal

Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2023 04:03 PM (MOY79)

138 I've also seen "The Trouble With Angels" quite a few times. It may be that I just really like Rosalind Russell.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2023 04:00 PM (RSbhh)

Was it Cary Grant in My Favorite Wife?
That was a funny movie, and well as (totally unrelated) It Happened On 5th Avenue.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 01, 2023 04:03 PM (ufFY8)

139
Math!?
Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:02 PM (/BBNv)



No. It was a statement of fact.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 01, 2023 04:03 PM (IXZGh)

140 The Chosen.
Posted by: Come and see at September 01, 2023 03:54 PM (k8SNg)

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I haven't finished season 3 yet, but The Chosen is very good.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 01, 2023 04:03 PM (DRSnL)

141 135 The nasty trend of twitter denizens saying "we need female Space Marines" have been BTFO.

IoM has a female contingent. The Adepta Sororitas.
Posted by: Halfhand at September 01, 2023 04:02 PM (2/sPZ)

Space Nuns with Guns.

The fluff loves them.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 04:03 PM (xcxpd)

142 I like it so far. Tie ins to old samurai films and lore. She is a kind of a Ronin. Many martial arts references. It's real SW. unlike Andor,

Posted by: runner at September 01, 2023 04:03 PM (idBr5)

143 >>I'm re-watching 'The Expanse' on Amazon Prime. I was going to drop AP this year but kept it (shrugs). Figure I should finish this show that I actually liked quite a bit. I tend to get distracted, which is what happened to 'The Expanse' after 2 1/2 seasons. I'm well into Season 2 now. Hopefully I will keep with it. Again, life is a laser pointer and I'm a kittuh.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 01, 2023 04:00 PM (sAmhv)
_____

Really enjoyed that series. One of the only good sci-fi series that took physics and gravity somewhat seriously.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at September 01, 2023 04:03 PM (bNf8H)

144 There are some movies I can watch again and again.'

Believe it or not, 'The Ninth Gate'.

I have watched that movie more than any other.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:03 PM (/BBNv)

145 Where is the Joe Biden of Hollywood to drop $2.4 trillion on a Vegas reboot?

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BREAKING: Biden Sends Additional $240 Billion to Ukraine for Vegas Reboot Production Starring Artist & Son Hunter and Driving a DeLorean. Developing ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at September 01, 2023 04:03 PM (Up5F4)

146 FACT: The elves of LOTR did NOT have pointy ears.

Posted by: observer at September 01, 2023 04:03 PM (9u+2h)

147 I wonder if culturally bankrupt, late Empire Romans were all endlessly rehashing hits from their own grooveyard of forgotten favorites. Like a race and gender-swapped Non-Consensual Patriarchal Encounter of Lucretia. That sort of crap.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 01, 2023


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The Roman stage was never one for things like tragedy -- no Roman O'Neill or Strindberg's works have come down to us. They were much more into comedy and farce, people hitting each other with bladders, that sort of thing. Stultus III, in other words.

Late in the decadence they might have started doing live pr0n on stage -- Pornhubius Major!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 01, 2023 04:04 PM (J2vNu)

148 The Adepta Sororitas.
Posted by: Halfhand at September 01, 2023 04:02 PM (2/sPZ)

Sounds like a Doritos spinoff.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 01, 2023 04:04 PM (ufFY8)

149 They just need a few more men with beards in Cinderella costumes at there theme parks to break even

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 01, 2023 04:04 PM (O8bOp)

150 Math!?
Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:02 PM (/BBNv)

No. It was a statement of fact.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden'

Okay. Humbled.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:04 PM (/BBNv)

151 I may have seen "Indiana Jones" and the Raiders of the Lost Ark more than once-probably two times, but none of the other of the series more than once. I didn't see the most recent one.

I certainly think the original SW movies are overrated. They were good for their time, but that's largely because most movies back then were post-Vietnam anti-hero crap. They have not aged well.

I watch Red even though I've probably seen it 20x, and can repeat every line from memory. There are a few others in that category, but precious few. SW and IJ are not among them.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 04:05 PM (I/Qkd)

152 FACT: The elves of LOTR did NOT have pointy ears.
Posted by: observer at September 01, 2023 04:03 PM (9u+2h)
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What about the hobbits? Peter Jackson's hobbits all had slightly pointed ears...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:05 PM (YIVH2)

153 So...the only thing that will save them is more bewbs!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 01, 2023 04:05 PM (hv9bm)

154 Is Meg 2 about a giant Shar or about Meg Ryan?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at September 01, 2023 04:05 PM (VdGjU)

155 Just an FYI DVDFAB makes streamfab that can download shows from streaming services so you can watch them later, so you can get lets say Disney download your favorite shows then cancel the subscription

Posted by: Screw Hollywood at September 01, 2023 04:05 PM (dKiJG)

156 No. It was a statement of fact.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden'

Okay. Humbled.
Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:04 PM (/BBNv)

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It's actually 46.9 million but WHATEVER.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 01, 2023 04:06 PM (DRSnL)

157 The Roman stage was never one for things like tragedy -- no Roman O'Neill or Strindberg's works have come down to us. They were much more into comedy and farce, people hitting each other with bladders, that sort of thing. Stultus III, in other words.

Late in the decadence they might have started doing live pr0n on stage -- Pornhubius Major!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 01, 2023 04:04 PM (J2vNu)

Oh there were lots of Greek and Roman tragedians. But so little has survived, sadly, from those times. I think the comedies were more popular or at least more effort was made to preserve them.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 04:06 PM (xcxpd)

158 Ahsoka?

Gay

Her purple haired resting bitch face theyboss partner?

Gay

All the white males in the show?

Gay all day

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 01, 2023 04:06 PM (VTu1l)

159 IoM has a female contingent. The Adepta Sororitas.
Posted by: Halfhand

Which frequently need relieved by actual Space Marine forces

Posted by: Buddy Hackett at September 01, 2023 04:06 PM (ISRnK)

160 So...the only thing that will save them is more bewbs!
Posted by: Diogenes at September 01, 2023 04:05 PM (hv9bm)
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This busty bikini brunette is unwilling to help them:
https://is.gd/NCcGSr

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:06 PM (t0OGg)

161 >>>As I've said before, they broke the entire lore of the source material in the very first sentence of the very first episode. I don't believe any other adaptation comes close.

I have heard that a lot. I downloaded the first book; I have to try reading that at some point. Or maybe I downloaded the audiobook.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:07 PM (KRtlO)

162 Let talented people do something new and cool. If any can be found.
They're out there. They're just not welcome in the House of Louse or Whoreywood right now. Proven IP only, new stuff doesn't have a sales record, etc.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310'


The problem isn't even mining IP over and over, it's how they basically spit in the face of the fans they really need there, who they can build on to as they continue.

These studios don't want "a straight white Male" doing anything, so they'll have a series about A strong Male hero, and get a 2 spirit afghani pottery expert to write it.

What these studios do,, repeatedly, is the equivalent of opening a bbq joint in Kansas city, and then hiring a Muslim and a hindu to do all the cooking, then they act surprised when it fails because all they serve is a plate of random wilted tree branches and stems to people.

Posted by: Rbastid at September 01, 2023 04:07 PM (obL+U)

163 ... Her purple haired resting bitch face theyboss partner? ...
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 01, 2023 04:06 PM (VTu1l)
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LOL

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:07 PM (t0OGg)

164 Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 01, 2023 04:03 PM (ufFY

It's Cary Grant and Irene Dunne in "MY Favorite Wife". She's very good too. I don't think I've seen "It happened on Fifth Avenue."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2023 04:07 PM (RSbhh)

165 Help us, Oh Boob One Kaboobie!
You're our only hope!

Posted by: Leia, in that white outfit at September 01, 2023 04:07 PM (ufFY8)

166 IoM has a female contingent. The Adepta Sororitas.
Posted by: Halfhand at September 01, 2023 04:02 PM (2/sPZ)

Yes, tourists step over what is glaring to long-time players.

Similar to how they call the Imperium faggist. In the category of ontological evil there are four fucking chaos gods licking their lips and eyeing your butthole.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 01, 2023 04:07 PM (44ww/)

167 Since Disney took over Star Wars, it's gone from enjoyable, to enjoying the smell of the outside of a Tauntaun from Hoth, to the smell of the innards of a Tauntaun.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at September 01, 2023 04:07 PM (mNmNo)

168 I liked the Meg, fun popcorn flick

Meg 2 was a giant dino turd served up in bat soup

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 01, 2023 04:07 PM (VTu1l)

169
The first three Indiana Jones movies are the only ones rated exist as far as I'm concerned

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at September 01, 2023 03:55 PM


they should have quit when they rode off into the sunset at the end of The Last Crusade

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 01, 2023 04:08 PM (ENBF0)

170 >>> There are some movies I can watch again and again.'
Believe it or not, 'The Ninth Gate'.
I have watched that movie more than any other.

I watch that an oddly high number of times, too. I also read the book.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:08 PM (KRtlO)

171 I just want to know if any of this will get Kathleen Kennedy fired. Like yesterday.

Posted by: runner at September 01, 2023 04:08 PM (idBr5)

172 This busty bikini brunette is unwilling to help them:
https://is.gd/NCcGSr
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:06 PM (t0OGg)

Huge tracts of land there

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 04:08 PM (xcxpd)

173 There are some movies I can watch again and again. One of "His Girl Friday" with Cary Grant and Rosalind Russell. I think I've seen that about six times-and just the other night because it's so fast paced and clever. I've also seen "The Trouble With Angels" quite a few times. It may be that I just really like Rosalind Russell.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2023


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Fen, you probably know HGF is a remake of Hecht & Macarthur's The Front Page with the sex of the reporter, Hildy, swapped. They didn't even have to change the name, he was "Hildy" in the original -- and in the Jack Lemmon/Walter Matthau period piece in the Seventies, too.

HGF requires careful attention or you'll miss something!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 01, 2023 04:08 PM (J2vNu)

174 169
The first three Indiana Jones movies are the only ones rated exist as far as I'm concerned

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at September 01, 2023 03:55 PM

they should have quit when they rode off into the sunset at the end of The Last Crusade
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 01, 2023 04:08 PM (ENBF0)

Yes.Perfect ending.

Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:09 PM (PCK5/)

175 What these studios do,, repeatedly, is the equivalent of opening a bbq joint in Kansas city, and then hiring a Muslim and a hindu to do all the cooking, then they act surprised when it fails because all they serve is a plate of random wilted tree branches and stems to people.

This restaurant, does it do carryout?

Posted by: Giraffes at September 01, 2023 04:09 PM (I/Qkd)

176 The problem isn't even mining IP over and over, it's how they basically spit in the face of the fans they really need there, who they can build on to as they continue.

These studios don't want "a straight white Male" doing anything, so they'll have a series about A strong Male hero, and get a 2 spirit afghani pottery expert to write it. ...
Posted by: Rbastid at September 01, 2023 04:07 PM (obL+U)
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And what's funny about that - hugely funny - is *why* Disney bought Lucasfilm and Marvel in the first place: boys.

Disney was never really a company for boys. They didn't make stuff that boys liked. They were the "princess company" or the "family-friendly" company, not a company with properties that appealed to half the market.

They wanted that half. They wanted boys to become Disney fans, too. So they bought Lucasfilm and Marvel to do it. And then they did exactly what you described.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:09 PM (t0OGg)

177 That video...The Death of Disney...is great!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 01, 2023 04:09 PM (M5QzP)

178 She's very good too. I don't think I've seen "It happened on Fifth Avenue."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2023 04:07 PM (RSbhh)

Cary Grant is not in it.
About a bum who is squatting in an industrialist's mansion during Christmas, and hilarity ensues. Very funny, and becoming somewhat of a Christmas classic on TCM.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 01, 2023 04:09 PM (ufFY8)

179 The first three Indiana Jones movies are the only ones rated exist as far as I'm concerned

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Yep, i just about treat everything post 2000 as non-canonical elseworld goat wee wee trash

Nothing happened after Matrix 1

Nothing happened after Return of the Jedi

Live Action Remakes? Never heard of it

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 01, 2023 04:10 PM (VTu1l)

180 I hear Ahsoka is okay and at least has a bigger budget than these other cheapo-beepo Disney Star Wars shows -- and that also gets terrible ratings, that means people aren't deciding not to view based on the quality of a specific show.

That means they've tuned out the entire brand.

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Yeah, the show itself is okay, but I think the problem is that it's a live-action sequel to the Rebels animated series (and to a lesser degree, the Clone Wars animated series).

Which means that:
1) the casual Star Wars fans who have only seen the movies will have no idea who these characters are or why they should care

and, more to your point about the brand:

2) I think at this point most of the hardcore Star Wars fans who have seen all the animated series have no desire to tune in and see more of their favorite characters gutted and destroyed the way Luke, Han, Obi-Wan, Boba Fett, etc. have been.

Posted by: Cave Johnson at September 01, 2023 04:10 PM (BGygK)

181 If Disney wants to take ESPN off of being exclusively cable, they're going to get a fuckton less money from the cable companies. That's the way it is. They wish it was different, but c'est la vie. Disney needs to find a way to keep ESPN financially healthy during the transition, and they may not have the money.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:00 PM (t0OGg)

The final play for Disney may be to prepare itself for a sale. Jettison ESPN and get cash for that now, find a home for the cruise ships, and sell the movie and TV IP to Apple (which already has MGM's library).

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 01, 2023 04:10 PM (/iWhV)

182 What about the hobbits? Peter Jackson's hobbits all had slightly pointed ears...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:05 PM (YIVH2)

Yes, our ears are slightly pointy. And the hairy feet are a bitch to keep combed.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 01, 2023 04:10 PM (6xRrr)

183 It's Cary Grant and Irene Dunne in "MY Favorite Wife". She's very good too. I don't think I've seen "It happened on Fifth Avenue."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2023


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Fen, my favorite serious performance of Cary Grant's is in another flick he made with Irene Dunne, Penny Serenade. (My all-time favorite -- which apparently was also his favorite -- was Father Goose.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 01, 2023 04:10 PM (J2vNu)

184 Honestly, one of the most amazing cinema experiences I've ever had was a matinee of 'The Arrival', 2016, on a first showing before the Oldsters complained it was too loud and the Dolby was fuzzy.

That first showing was towering. I'm not used to 'spectacle' as such, any more, and man that movie delivered.
the cascading clouds, the tension, the first view of the aliens. That was a terrific! movie that really used the theater.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:11 PM (/BBNv)

185 Meg was the novel that first convinced me that really any old hack can write a book.

Posted by: spindrift at September 01, 2023 04:11 PM (y3wha)

186 There are a couple of youtube guides to The Silmarillion that illuminate the difficult stories.

I'm kind of over "spoilers" and don't mind doing 5 hours of prepping for a 20 hour journey. This is true for any book now.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 01, 2023 04:11 PM (44ww/)

187 his busty bikini brunette is unwilling to help them:
https://is.gd/NCcGSr

**************

her watch looks cheap and Walmart made

1.5/10 would not clean her pool

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 01, 2023 04:11 PM (VTu1l)

188 A 113+ day strike with the actors in-support, with no end in sight because with the studios are playing hardball. Hmmmm. 5 billion quatloos that casting couch auditions continue to be held, with no reduction in number or frequency.

Posted by: GL at September 01, 2023 04:12 PM (5fDan)

189 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 01, 2023 04:08 PM (J2vNu)

Yes; I know that. I don't think I've seen the original male version movie of "The Front Page" although I'm familair with the play. I prefer "His Girl Friday" to the 70's remake.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2023 04:12 PM (RSbhh)

190 Raiders is one of my comfort movies. Released at a time when it was fun, and done in a style that spoke to childhood afternoon matinees. Pure fun.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 01, 2023 04:12 PM (hv9bm)

191 Honestly, one of the most amazing cinema experiences I've ever had was a matinee of 'The Arrival', 2016, on a first showing before the Oldsters complained it was too loud and the Dolby was fuzzy.

The thing I remember most about that movie was that Amy Adams backside had grown to enormous proportions. Other than that, it was completely forgettable.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 04:13 PM (I/Qkd)

192 Part of the clone wars EU stuff. Never seen it, but people seemed to like Clone Wars as a show.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 01, 2023 03:43 PM (zZu0s)

I had a kid at the right age when it was out and it was fine. As someone else pointed out though, I should not have to watch X TV shows and movies, and read Y books and comics to understand what is happening.

Based on reviews, the show is boring. Last episode was a whole 28 minutes with most of being a "training" scene.

Posted by: WOPR at September 01, 2023 04:13 PM (WFJRS)

193 Fen, my favorite serious performance of Cary Grant's is in another flick he made with Irene Dunne, Penny Serenade. (My all-time favorite -- which apparently was also his favorite -- was Father Goose.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 01, 2023 04:10 PM (J2vNu)

Penny Serenade was a fantastic movie that was completely destroyed by the last 10 minutes. I mean, completely, irredeemably destroyed.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 01, 2023 04:13 PM (KbCG3)

194 Yep, Raiders is pure joy.

Posted by: runner at September 01, 2023 04:13 PM (idBr5)

195 https://is.gd/NCcGSr

Breasts look they were surgically enlarged. Would not bang.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2023 04:14 PM (RSbhh)

196 I have heard that a lot. I downloaded the first book; I have to try reading that at some point. Or maybe I downloaded the audiobook.
Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:07 PM (KRtlO)
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The prologue in Eye of the World is one of my favorite prologues of all time. The book as a whole is often portrayed as a paint-by-numbers Tolkien clone, but that's not entirely true. It was also written when people *wanted* more of that style of writing.

I still think it's a near-perfect epic fantasy book and I'll stand by that statement.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:14 PM (YIVH2)

197 E.T. was the first and greatest movie I ever saw

I dread the inevitable remake where E.T. will be a non-binary plantsexual

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 01, 2023 04:14 PM (VTu1l)

198 1.5/10 would not clean her pool
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 01, 2023 04:11 PM (VTu1l)

What is clean her pool a euphemism for

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at September 01, 2023 04:14 PM (VdGjU)

199 I'm not through it yet, but whoever wrote the script for the embedded video has done a hell of a job.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:14 PM (t0OGg)

200 her watch looks cheap and Walmart made

1.5/10 would not clean her pool
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort
.........


She can't even do a decent duckface.

Posted by: wth at September 01, 2023 04:14 PM (v0R5T)

201 The thing I remember most about that movie was that Amy Adams backside had grown to enormous proportions. Other than that, it was completely forgettable.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 04:13 PM (I/Qkd)

I never understood the love of that movie. The ending was stupid.

Posted by: WOPR at September 01, 2023 04:14 PM (WFJRS)

202 Disney was never really a company for boys. They didn't make stuff that boys liked. They were the "princess company" or the "family-friendly" company, not a company with properties that appealed to half the market.

They wanted that half. They wanted boys to become Disney fans, too. So they bought Lucasfilm and Marvel to do it. And then they did exactly what you described.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023


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Disney did lots of things for boys -- the Davy Crockett TV series, Spin and Marty, Zorro, The Scarecrow, The Swamp Fox, and movies like 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. Yes, they began going more "princess" in the Sixties, but there were quite a few adventure shows and movies before that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 01, 2023 04:15 PM (J2vNu)

203 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 01, 2023 04:10 PM (J2vNu)

Yes; I've seen both and Father Goose is also one of my favorites.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2023 04:15 PM (RSbhh)

204 Temple of Doom was the least of the Three… although Kate Capshaw was a cutie, and pretty funny… Short Round was execrable…

Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:15 PM (PCK5/)

205 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2023 04:00 PM

Try the Thin Man movies with William Powell and Myrna Loy.

Posted by: rd at September 01, 2023 04:15 PM (F0/21)

206 Now even Fen's getting picky.

Posted by: wth at September 01, 2023 04:15 PM (v0R5T)

207 Meg was the novel that first convinced me that really any old hack can write a book.
Posted by: spindrift'

I literally just today yelled at a buddy who has been struggling with writing a book that I did it.
Meaning, literally ANYONE can do it.

For Fuck's sake, *I* completed a book. Like, really.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:15 PM (/BBNv)

208 What is clean her pool a euphemism for

********

Same as buying her a pumpkin spice latte

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at September 01, 2023 04:15 PM (VTu1l)

209 Yes, our ears are slightly pointy. And the hairy feet are a bitch to keep combed.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 01, 2023 04:10 PM (6xRrr)
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Do you have to use a special shampoo and conditioner?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:15 PM (YIVH2)

210 I had a kid at the right age when it was out and it was fine. As someone else pointed out though, I should not have to watch X TV shows and movies, and read Y books and comics to understand what is happening. ...
Posted by: WOPR at September 01, 2023 04:13 PM (WFJRS)
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Which is why I have my popcorn ready for when "The Marvels" fails.

It's a sequel to a movie that was not well-liked (Captain Marvel), but is *also* a sequel to a couple of D+ properties that not many people watched.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:15 PM (t0OGg)

211 >>>I never understood the love of that movie. The ending was stupid.

also most of the beginning and middle.

for me, that movie was the definition of "a movie dumb people think is smart."

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:15 PM (KRtlO)

212 Disney is Dumb and are phasing out their physical media for some reason.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 04:15 PM (dKiJG)

213 I have not watched Raiders in a long time. Over a decade. No real desire either. They killed that property, and I just don't care anymore. At all. Feel the same way about Star Wars. I haven't seen the originals in at least 20 years. Not that you can see the originals as they were anyway. Again, just no interest in any of it.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at September 01, 2023 04:16 PM (ppBhU)

214 200 her watch looks cheap and Walmart made

1.5/10 would not clean her pool
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort
.........


She can't even do a decent duckface.
Posted by: wth at September 01, 2023 04:14 PM (v0R5T)

For some reason, this picture brought me back to many a weekend spent on the beach in St. Pete, Florida.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 01, 2023 04:16 PM (KbCG3)

215 195 https://is.gd/NCcGSr

Breasts look they were surgically enlarged. Would not bang.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2023 04:14 PM (RSbhh)

Well That’s a relief, Fen!!

Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:16 PM (PCK5/)

216 I never understood the love of that movie. The ending was stupid.
Posted by: WOPR at September 01, 2023 04:14 PM (WFJRS)

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I honestly didn't know people loved that movie.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 01, 2023 04:17 PM (DRSnL)

217 Breasts look they were surgically enlarged. Would not bang.

A bit too large.

Motorboating with TWO Evinrudes.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 01, 2023 04:17 PM (ufFY8)

218 Even tMummy 1 & 2, which are obviously an imitation of sorts are very entertaining. Now that Brandon is back, he should reunite with Weisz and do another installment. Of course they will make it all ghey... never mind... bad idea

Posted by: runner at September 01, 2023 04:17 PM (idBr5)

219 Honestly, one of the most amazing cinema experiences I've ever had was a matinee of 'The Arrival'

for me, that movie was the definition of "a movie dumb people think is smart.

Oh, but on you it looks good
*rolls eyes*

Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 04:18 PM (I/Qkd)

220 Temple of Doom was the least of the Three… although Kate Capshaw was a cutie, and pretty funny… Short Round was execrable…
Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:15 PM (PCK5/)

Ish. Kate Capshaw and her endless shrieking killed that one for me. Well, that and Short
Round and the shitty script.

When I used to subscribe to Dish, it would show "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doo" on the program guide. Guess the title was too long, but I thought it was pretty apt.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 01, 2023 04:18 PM (6xRrr)

221 also most of the beginning and middle.

for me, that movie was the definition of "a movie dumb people think is smart."
Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:15 PM (KRtlO)
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Yup. The aliens were weird enough, but it was a snooze fest. I wasn't all that impressed with Ted Chiang's short story that the movie was based on.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:18 PM (YIVH2)

222 Based on reviews, the show is boring. Last episode was a whole 28 minutes with most of being a "training" scene.
Posted by: WOPR at September 01, 2023 04:13 PM (WFJRS)
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Y'all complained that Rey was a so-called "Mary Sue" and now you're bitching when the female lead actually trains in order to develop.

You people cannot be satisfied. You're just haters. It was never about what you said it was about, it was really about - as we asserted time and again despite your vitriol - the fact that you people hate women. Your misogyny is what drives your criticism, and Ahsoka proves it.

Posted by: Lucasfilm PR at September 01, 2023 04:18 PM (t0OGg)

223 218 Even tMummy 1 & 2, which are obviously an imitation of sorts are very entertaining. Now that Brandon is back, he should reunite with Weisz and do another installment. Of course they will make it all ghey... never mind... bad idea
Posted by: runner at September 01, 2023 04:17 PM (idBr5)

They are fun popcorn movies… like Galaxy Quest and The Fifth Element…

Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:19 PM (PCK5/)

224 182 What about the hobbits? Peter Jackson's hobbits all had slightly pointed ears...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:05 PM (YIVH2)

Yes, our ears are slightly pointy. And the hairy feet are a bitch to keep combed.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 01, 2023 04:10 PM (6xRrr)

The only pointy eared hobbits were the Sackville-Bagginses. They came from the south so...

Posted by: Gaffer Gamgee at September 01, 2023 04:19 PM (9u+2h)

225 https://is.gd/NCcGSr

Breasts look they were surgically enlarged. Would not bang.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2023 04:14 PM (RSbhh)



But Fen...those eyes. Icy blue.
Oh my!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 01, 2023 04:19 PM (hv9bm)

226 The prologue in Eye of the World is one of my favorite prologues of all time. The book as a whole is often portrayed as a paint-by-numbers Tolkien clone, but that's not entirely true. It was also written when people *wanted* more of that style of writing.

I still think it's a near-perfect epic fantasy book and I'll stand by that statement.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:14 PM (YIVH2)

I love the first book too (the first 6 books really) and I've annoyed more than one aspiring novelist who put a prologue in their book by telling them that if their prologue isn't as good as 'Eye of the World's, they should cut it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 04:19 PM (xcxpd)

227 Ha! Ha!

Posted by: Nelson Muntz at September 01, 2023 04:19 PM (86W+h)

228 It's a sequel to a movie that was not well-liked (Captain Marvel), but is *also* a sequel to a couple of D+ properties that not many people watched.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:15 PM (t0OGg)
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Heh. "D+" not only describes Disney Plus, but also the grade of the properties...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:19 PM (YIVH2)

229 Fen bang-rating a Mannix chick.

Nope. No way.

Posted by: Kratwurst at September 01, 2023 04:19 PM (nIRE6)

230 Do you have to use a special shampoo and conditioner?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:15 PM (YIVH2)

Yes, it's called "Gee Your Feet Smell Terrific".

Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 01, 2023 04:19 PM (6xRrr)

231 The thing about growing Disney numbers. Disney and Hulu (no Hulu plus) are now part of at least some packages and given away "free" when you get other stuff. When I last signed up for Verizon phone service, they added Disney+ and Hulu gratis. So, I'm part of that "growing" Disney+ "audience" even though I didn't pay (directly) for it, and don't watch it.

Posted by: hh475 at September 01, 2023 04:20 PM (SNZgh)

232 Fen bang-rating a Mannix chick.

Nope. No way.
Posted by: Kratwurst at September 01, 2023 04:19 PM (nIRE6)
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The streams have been crossed.

Strap in. It's gonna be a bumpy ride.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:20 PM (t0OGg)

233 190 Raiders is one of my comfort movies. Released at a time when it was fun, and done in a style that spoke to childhood afternoon matinees. Pure fun.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 01, 2023 04:12 PM (hv9bm)

Master and Commander watched that movie hundreds of times and I always see something new, the realism of ship life and getting the Blu-Ray with extra scenes showing life on the ship, such a good movie.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 04:20 PM (dKiJG)

234 Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 04:13 PM (I/Qkd)
I never understood the love of that movie. The ending was stupid.
Posted by: WOPR'

I liked it. It was about the concept of language creating Time. The worst experience I've ever had at The Movies was going to see 'JOKER' with The Kid, man, THAT was fucking disturbing. She loved it and I was just... No.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:20 PM (/BBNv)

235 If Disney wants to take ESPN off of being exclusively cable, they're going to get a fuckton less money from the cable companies. That's the way it is. They wish it was different, but c'est la vie. Disney needs to find a way to keep ESPN financially healthy during the transition, and they may not have the money.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:00 PM (t0OGg)

I believe one problem though is the contracts with the leagues and conferences. ESPN gets the cable rights and maybe limited streaming. They would need to renegotiate all of those to get off of cable.

Posted by: WOPR at September 01, 2023 04:20 PM (WFJRS)

236 >>The thing I remember most about that movie was that Amy Adams backside had grown to enormous proportions. Other than that, it was completely forgettable.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 04:13 PM (I/Qkd)
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Amy Adams annoys me. She is Jessica Chastain with slightly less sanctimony.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at September 01, 2023 04:20 PM (bNf8H)

237 230 Do you have to use a special shampoo and conditioner?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:15 PM (YIVH2)

Yes, it's called "Gee Your Feet Smell Terrific".
Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 01, 2023 04:19 PM (6xRrr)

Hah! Okay, two Hahs!!

Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:20 PM (PCK5/)

238 "D+" not only describes Disney Plus, but also the grade of the properties...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:19 PM (YIVH2)


I thought it described today's Mannix girls.

Posted by: spindrift at September 01, 2023 04:21 PM (y3wha)

239 199 I'm not through it yet, but whoever wrote the script for the embedded video has done a hell of a job.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:14 PM (t0OGg)

Yeah, it's really funny.

Thanks Ace

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 04:21 PM (xcxpd)

240 I love the first book too (the first 6 books really) and I've annoyed more than one aspiring novelist who put a prologue in their book by telling them that if their prologue isn't as good as 'Eye of the World's, they should cut it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 04:19 PM
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I hate the ending of Book 5 and much of the rest of it was also "meh." But Books 1-4 and 6 are definitely worth it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:21 PM (YIVH2)

241 Fen bang-rating a Mannix chick.
.......

AoS corruption complete.

Posted by: wth at September 01, 2023 04:21 PM (v0R5T)

242 Re: Father Goose:

Walter Eckland (Cary Grant): "Let me tell you, I am not a father figure. I am not a brother figure or an uncle figure or a cousin figure. In fact, the only figure I intend being is a total stranger figure!"

Later:
[catching a fish barehanded. A fish swims toward them]
Walter Eckland: [In a hushed voice] "Hey, here she comes again."
Catherine Freneau: "How do you know it's a 'she'?"
Walter Eckland: "Her mouth is open, now be quiet."

(My father practically fell off the couch laughing at that when it first ran on TV)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 01, 2023 04:21 PM (J2vNu)

243 Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:16 PM (PCK5/)

LOL. Well, I'm guessing you know the real reason why I would not bang ( It's the duck face. j/k) but I was just riffing on the famous ASHQ line.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2023 04:21 PM (RSbhh)

244 Isn't it weird how "Superhero fatigue" set in at the exact moment superhero movies became woke propaganda?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 01, 2023 04:21 PM (9yUzE)

245 My review is that it's not boring . And since I am a well regarded expert in what is boring and what's not, you can totally trust My review.

Posted by: runner at September 01, 2023 04:21 PM (idBr5)

246 The worst experience I've ever had at The Movies was going to see 'JOKER'

The wife and I rented it and tried to watch it at home. Lasted about 15 minutes.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 04:21 PM (I/Qkd)

247 If Ahsoka sucks, how much more is anything further containing my screenname going to suck?

Watch nuThrawn have a stronk and independent female advisor/confidant to replace Pellaeon.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 01, 2023 04:22 PM (uGhsv)

248 243 Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:16 PM (PCK5/)

LOL. Well, I'm guessing you know the real reason why I would not bang ( It's the duck face. j/k) but I was just riffing on the famous ASHQ line.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2023 04:21 PM (RSbhh)

Heh… please, never change Fen!!

Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:22 PM (PCK5/)

249 I believe one problem though is the contracts with the leagues and conferences. ESPN gets the cable rights and maybe limited streaming. They would need to renegotiate all of those to get off of cable.
Posted by: WOPR at September 01, 2023 04:20 PM (WFJRS)
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Yup. It's a big job and it will take several years. And during the transition period, the amount of money Disney is going to be able to hoover out of cable carriers will fall dramatically. They're going to have to eat that to manage the changeover to streaming, and right now they're fighting for money.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:23 PM (t0OGg)

250 As to the Ashoka thing? I don't find the main character attractive at all. Head is stupid, and counter Darwinian... skin is an ugly shade... and she is not that pretty to start with.

So, why in the hell would I want to watch a show, forced to watch an unattractive female for long periods of time?

Hard pass.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 01, 2023 04:23 PM (oHd/0)

251 Temple of Doom was the least of the Three… although Kate Capshaw was a cutie, and pretty funny… Short Round was execrable…
Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:15 PM (PCK5/)


I can’t believe I never knew that Temple of Doom took place before Raiders

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 04:23 PM (dKiJG)

252 I hate the ending of Book 5 and much of the rest of it was also "meh." But Books 1-4 and 6 are definitely worth it.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:21 PM (YIVH2)

Well 'Fires of Heaven' is a heavily Nynaeve occupied story, so I can see why you wouldn't like it.

The 'Ashaman: Kill' ending of book 6 might be my favorite scene in fantasy literature.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 04:23 PM (xcxpd)

253 I accept nobody likes 'the Arrival', fair enough, but 'Galaxy Quest' is a masterpiece.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:23 PM (/BBNv)

254 Ahsoka is good (at least last weeks first two episodes were, haven't had time to see this week's yet). It is absolutely dragged down by the disgrace that was Kenobe (and the other crap put out by Kennedy).

Also - Ahsoka is a straight line sequel to Rebels, which was very good. And since it is a sequel to Rebels, Ahsoka isn't actually the main character. The main character is Ezra - who is very much a traditional male hero Star Wars character (which is why Rebels was so good). And who will be back at some point soon I imagine.

Hopefully Lucas buys it the IP back for pennies on the dollar and puts Favreau and Filoni in charge and we can have nice things again.

Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at September 01, 2023 04:23 PM (5C4od)

255 This delicious treat was always waiting for me at Butterbur's The Prancing Pony
https://tinyurl.com/53d67prb

Posted by: Gandalf Stormcrow at September 01, 2023 04:24 PM (9u+2h)

256 If Ahsoka sucks, how much more is anything further containing my screenname going to suck?

Watch nuThrawn have a stronk and independent female advisor/confidant to replace Pellaeon.
Posted by: Thrawn at September 01, 2023 04:22 PM (uGhsv)
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nuThrawn's confidant will be right all the time, making Thrawn into an incompetent boob.

And yet, Thrawn's character was so awesome in the original Expanded Universe, he was brought back (OK, it was a clone or something) and even transitioned to Disney's EU.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:24 PM (YIVH2)

257 Penny Serenade was a fantastic movie that was completely destroyed by the last 10 minutes. I mean, completely, irredeemably destroyed.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 01, 2023


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Been a while since I watched it. I actually have it on DVD; maybe it's time to pop it in again.

The scene where Grant's character tries to convince the judge to let them keep the adopted child . . . Wow.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 01, 2023 04:25 PM (J2vNu)

258 253 I accept nobody likes 'the Arrival', fair enough, but 'Galaxy Quest' is a masterpiece.
Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:23 PM (/BBNv)

It is… the casting was perfect…

Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:25 PM (PCK5/)

259 There are some movies I can watch again and again.'

Believe it or not, 'The Ninth Gate'.

I have watched that movie more than any other.
Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:03 PM (/BBNv)

The seductress was hot.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 01, 2023 04:25 PM (BdMk6)

260 Hopefully Lucas buys it the IP back for pennies on the dollar and puts Favreau and Filoni in charge and we can have nice things again.


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Hopefully.

Posted by: runner at September 01, 2023 04:25 PM (idBr5)

261 244 Isn't it weird how "Superhero fatigue" set in at the exact moment superhero movies became woke propaganda?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 01, 2023 04:21 PM (9yUzE)

You mean when they rewrote all the Super Hero characters? So they were just sad imitations of the mythical heroes we had grown up with.

Next up? Paul Bunyan is a 'tree hugger'? Peco Bill a Gay Hollywood Village People singer? John Henry, works on Calif High Speed Rail?

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 01, 2023 04:26 PM (oHd/0)

262 I am here only to protest the "dis" at TJ Hooker. Heather Locklear was at her best in that series (pre-alcohol syndrome/plastic surgery/Motley Crue marriage).

Posted by: Jake Speed at September 01, 2023 04:26 PM (Vu1jV)

263 Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 01, 2023

***
Been a while since I watched it. I actually have it on DVD; maybe it's time to pop it in again.

The scene where Grant's character tries to convince the judge to let them keep the adopted child . . . Wow.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 01, 2023 04:25 PM (J2vNu)

Tremendous.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 01, 2023 04:26 PM (KbCG3)

264 Galaxy Quest:

"Why is there this maze of giant crushing pistons?"
"Because it was in the show!"

That movie has so much entertainment per square inch

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:27 PM (/BBNv)

265 243 Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:16 PM (PCK5/)

LOL. Well, I'm guessing you know the real reason why I would not bang ( It's the duck face. j/k) but I was just riffing on the famous ASHQ line.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2023 04:21 PM (RSbhh)


Fen, the problem is that everyone's Fen Sarcasm About Sexual Topics Sensor is set on "Never Gonna Happen."

Posted by: GL at September 01, 2023 04:27 PM (5fDan)

266 I can’t believe I never knew that Temple of Doom took place before Raiders
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023


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It's supposed to be set in 1935 or '36, I think, while Raiders is in '37 and Holy Grail is either in '38 or early '39 -- certainly before the war began in September.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 01, 2023 04:27 PM (J2vNu)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 01, 2023 04:27 PM (J2vNu)

268 Peter Jackson's LotR is a abomination

Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2023 04:27 PM (V97j+)

269 'Galaxy Quest' is a masterpiece.
Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:23 PM (/BBNv)


Just read an article where Tim Allen was saying that Pixar was so busy with other projects, that they had no adult supervision...

Cracked me up.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 01, 2023 04:27 PM (oHd/0)

270 Losing a couple billion dollars is worth it so long as 8 years olds know where the dick goes, it's that sexy, I mean simple.

Posted by: Kathleen Kennedy at September 01, 2023 04:28 PM (egIlr)

271 268 Peter Jackson's LotR is a abomination
Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2023 04:27 PM (V97j+)

The Hobbit is worser.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 01, 2023 04:28 PM (oHd/0)

272 That movie has so much entertainment per square inch

"Let's get out of here before one of those things kills Guy"

lolol

Posted by: Halfhand at September 01, 2023 04:28 PM (2/sPZ)

273 268 Peter Jackson's LotR is a abomination
Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2023 04:27 PM (V97j+)

The worst

Posted by: observer at September 01, 2023 04:28 PM (9u+2h)

274 268 Peter Jackson's LotR is a abomination
Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2023 04:27 PM (V97j+)

That reminds me, where has Christopher Taylor been lately? Anyone seen him on the blog?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 04:28 PM (xcxpd)

275 I think the people saying the strike is about studios' tendency to cover up bad numbers for their media-darling streaming services might be on to something. In any case, I'm reminded of the baseball labor mayhem when I was quite young; the ones in the 90s that the league, and arguably the entire sport, never recovered from.

Posted by: CppThis at September 01, 2023 04:29 PM (PZvjL)

276 Blade Runner 2049 is terribly boring and dumb.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 04:29 PM (dKiJG)

277 My review of Andor is that it's 1) not Star wars and placing this politically charged lamety in SW universe does not make it SW. 2) it is boring as heck and pretentious to no end.

Posted by: runner at September 01, 2023 04:29 PM (idBr5)

278 At least 'Shakey Cam' has seemed to have gone out of style.

Posted by: davidt at September 01, 2023 04:29 PM (SYTee)

279 YAHTZEE !

I WIN.

can I go home now?

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 01, 2023 04:29 PM (JWYBQ)

280 Yea but the 2% Transgender USA population supports Disney............ So they got that going for them !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Frank N. Stien at September 01, 2023 04:30 PM (0vFtj)

281 No love for Ralph Bakshi’s The Hobbit”???

Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:30 PM (PCK5/)

282 Ninth Gate and Galaxy Quest were both indeed quite excellent movies.

Posted by: CppThis at September 01, 2023 04:30 PM (PZvjL)

283 Hopefully Lucas buys it the IP back for pennies on the dollar and puts Favreau and Filoni in charge and we can have nice things again.
Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at September 01, 2023 04:23 PM (5C4od)
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That won't happen, and Ace pointed out why a few weeks ago.

If Disney were to sell Lucasfilm, that will put - by definition - a price on it. And that price will definitely *not* be in excess of $4 billion. It will demonstrate, without question and without argument, that Disney's management resulted in the brutal erosion of Lucasfilm's value.

The only way Disney will sell Lucasfilm or Marvel is as a part of a package deal with a whole bunch of other things. They cannot - for reasons of both ego and the potential consequences of shareholder action - allow for major properties like those to get repriced in an unambiguous way.

What would they get for Lucasfilm? The IPs are dead. Whoever buys it will have to wait at least five years - maybe ten or more - before it can credibly retry. All that's left is ILM and Skywalker Sound. Those are solid and profitable, but they aren't going to fetch a multi-billion dollar pricetag.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:30 PM (t0OGg)

284 279 YAHTZEE !

I WIN.

can I go home now?
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 01, 2023 04:29 PM (JWYBQ)

Negative, the punishment must continue.

Posted by: observer at September 01, 2023 04:31 PM (9u+2h)

285 Posted by: GL at September 01, 2023 04:27 PM (5fDan)

That I'm sarcastic is never going to happen? I've been sarcastic for years here, but no, I am never going to bang a Mannix babe. I'm never even going to bang Rosalind Russell-first of all because she's dead -and secondly because she didn't go that way, and neither do I.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2023 04:31 PM (RSbhh)

286 I liked PJ's LotR's. The book is a certified classic and one of the greatest works of fiction ever. The movie doesn't come close to that but I still liked it. Jackson's The Hobbit was a disappointment, at best.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 01, 2023 04:31 PM (sAmhv)

287 Blade Runner 2049 is terribly boring and dumb.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio '

Oh! Oh! Oh!

Yeah I heard that from a lot of people.
I'm not one of them.
I loved it, it's one of my favorite movies.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:31 PM (/BBNv)

288 nuThrawn's confidant will be right all the time, making Thrawn into an incompetent boob.

And yet, Thrawn's character was so awesome in the original Expanded Universe, he was brought back (OK, it was a clone or something) and even transitioned to Disney's EU.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:24 PM (YIVH2)

Indeed, bringing Rich Evans' question about "how does it feel to live long enough see everything you love go up in flames?" really strike home this time.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 01, 2023 04:31 PM (uGhsv)

289 The 'Ashaman: Kill' ending of book 6 might be my favorite scene in fantasy literature.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 04:23 PM (xcxpd)
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"Kneel. Or you will be knelt." - probably my favorite line from that book....

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:31 PM (YIVH2)

290 Andor needed a editor

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 04:31 PM (dKiJG)

291 I seem to remember there were continuation novels, paperback originals, in the '80s for both Indiana Jones and Star Wars. I've never read them, but apparently they sold okay. Why couldn't a sensible company, which Disney no longer is, buy up a few of those for a couple of nickels and adapt the best ones for NEW IJ or SW stories that don't repeat what we've seen ad infinitum?

There could be loads of unusual stories to be told in those universes. They don't all have to involve Nazis or Death Stars!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 01, 2023 04:31 PM (J2vNu)

292 >>>If Disney were to sell Lucasfilm, that will put - by definition - a price on it. And that price will definitely *not* be in excess of $4 billion. It will demonstrate, without question and without argument, that Disney's management resulted in the brutal erosion of Lucasfilm's value.

The only way Disney will sell Lucasfilm or Marvel is as a part of a package deal with a whole bunch of other things. They cannot - for reasons of both ego and the potential consequences of shareholder action - allow for major properties like those to get repriced in an unambiguous way.


yup. And Filoni is no savoir. He's behind this Ahsoka trashfire. And he's a good little Gollum who serves his Precious Kaffeine Kennedy well.

He's a soyboy beta bitch.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:32 PM (KRtlO)

293 You know the retards at Disney are pulling their hair out trying to figure out how they can get more trannies in shows now.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 01, 2023 04:32 PM (JTwsP)

294 286 I liked PJ's LotR's. The book is a certified classic and one of the greatest works of fiction ever. The movie doesn't come close to that but I still liked it. Jackson's The Hobbit was a disappointment, at best.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 01, 2023 04:31 PM (sAmhv)

Fun to watch though… well for me, at least.

Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:32 PM (PCK5/)

295 281 No love for Ralph Bakshi’s The Hobbit”???
Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:30 PM (PCK5/)

True story, I used to jerk off to Fritz the Cat ALL the time.

Posted by: Dildo Bugger at September 01, 2023 04:32 PM (9u+2h)

296 >>>290 Andor needed a editor

Can relate.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:32 PM (KRtlO)

297 Fans of LotR should check out Lord of the Rings Online game. It's free.

Posted by: davidt at September 01, 2023 04:32 PM (SYTee)

298 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:30 PM (t0OGg)

Disney can't sell Lucas Films because they would lose all the trademarked character stuff... which they have built part of their Theme Parks around.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 01, 2023 04:33 PM (oHd/0)

299 I seem to remember there were continuation novels, paperback originals, in the '80s for both Indiana Jones and Star Wars. I've never read them, but apparently they sold okay'

Yes, there were piles of them. They sold very well.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:33 PM (/BBNv)

300 Andor needed a editor

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 04:31 PM (dKiJG)

Andor needed an editor.

Posted by: editor at September 01, 2023 04:33 PM (xPl2J)

301 Did not care for Blade Runner 2049. Cinematography was excellent though.

Posted by: runner at September 01, 2023 04:33 PM (idBr5)

302 I saw the Sweaty Vinegary Homeless People's Balls open for J Geils at the Orpheum. Blew everyone off the stage.

Posted by: Regular joe at September 01, 2023 04:33 PM (nnp+f)

303 >>>281 No love for Ralph Bakshi’s The Hobbit”???

Baskshi did half of the Lord of the Rings before running out of money.

The Hobbit was done by Rankin-Bass. Also, Rankin-Bass then did a very compressed version of Return of the King, unofficially concluding Bakshi's half-completed version of LotR.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:34 PM (KRtlO)

304 The thing about Disney + (scamming it from my brother’s account), I can’t even watch Dragonslayer or even the Lone Ranger movie (morbid curiosity).

Instapundit had a post about the Disney + movie Nautilus that is fully complete but have not decided to show because they rather take it as a loss for a tax right off!

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 01, 2023 04:34 PM (xLon1)

305 No love for Ralph Bakshi’s The Hobbit”???
Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:30 PM (PCK5/)
True story, I used to jerk off to Fritz the Cat ALL the time.
Posted by: Dildo Bugger'

Thread Win.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:34 PM (/BBNv)

306 I'm forced to watch one of my patients, who we see once a week, fail. His cancer is robbing him of all dignity. His eyes are losing their sparkle. His shin is ashen. His hair is gone. Teeth are grey. His clothes are barely hanging on his frame. He stinks of chemicals and death.

He's afraid.

I want off this boat.

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 01, 2023 04:34 PM (JWYBQ)

307 Both Bladerunners are boring and dumb. Yes, Isaid it.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 01, 2023 04:34 PM (JTwsP)

308 287 Blade Runner 2049 is terribly boring and dumb.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio '

Oh! Oh! Oh!

Yeah I heard that from a lot of people.
I'm not one of them.
I loved it, it's one of my favorite movies.
Posted by: LenNeal



Bladerunner is one of my all-time favorite movies. Bladerunner 2049 was fine. I enjoyed it. Not as good as the '82 classic but I liked it.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 01, 2023 04:34 PM (sAmhv)

309 I liked Peter Jackson's LOTR. I thought he did a wonderful job. I even liked the The Hobbit, although, yes, it's nowhere near as good as LOTR.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 01, 2023 04:34 PM (6xRrr)

310 iloni is no savoir. He's behind this Ahsoka trashfire. And he's a good little Gollum who serves his Precious Kaffeine Kennedy well.

He's a soyboy beta bitch.
Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:32 PM (KRtlO)

Ace be preachin'!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 04:34 PM (xcxpd)

311 Notice nobody but nobody is bringing up the Harry Potter Saga… a bridge too far…

Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:34 PM (PCK5/)

312 >> Andor needed a editor
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 04:31 PM (dKiJG)

>>>Andor needed an editor.
Posted by: editor

Andor needed an editor.

Posted by: Amy Schumer's Editor at September 01, 2023 04:34 PM (KRtlO)

313 I liked PJ's LotR's. The book is a certified classic and one of the greatest works of fiction ever. The movie doesn't come close to that but I still liked it.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 01, 2023 04:31 PM (sAmhv)

Plus, Viggo Mortensen and Orlando Bloom.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 01, 2023 04:35 PM (DRSnL)

314 Disney can't sell Lucas Films because they would lose all the trademarked character stuff... which they have built part of their Theme Parks around.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 01, 2023 04:33 PM (oHd/0)
++++
Not necessarily at all. They can sell the studio and the IPs with a carve-out for Disney Parks to retain licensing for some extremely long period of time. Those licenses didn't exist before Disney bought Lucasfilm, and those licenses will not transfer.

The usage of IP in the parks is not that big a problem - it can be solved in the contract and probably won't even result in a significant change of value, since parks licensing is fairly special and there are damn few buyers in the first place. This would likely *not* entitle Disney to future IP (characters, stories, etc.) for the parks and they'd have to bid on those like everyone else, but the existing stuff can be carved out pretty simply.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:35 PM (t0OGg)

315 They didn't have so many "franchises" when I was a kid. The biggest, I guess, was Bond, but until the late 60s they'd have been considered too racy for me.

The movie that overwhelmed me in my youth was unquestionably Zulu.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 01, 2023 04:35 PM (brAQZ)

316 Andor needed a editor

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 04:31 PM (dKiJG)

Andor needed an editor.
Posted by: editor at September 01, 2023 04:33 PM (xPl2J)


Snort!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 01, 2023 04:35 PM (hv9bm)

317 Peter Jackson's LotR is a abomination
Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2023 04:27 PM (V97j+)

I like his version. I've watched the trilogy several times and have always enjoyed them. Is that I think about it, I may watch them again this next week.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 01, 2023 04:35 PM (BdMk6)

318 303 >>>281 No love for Ralph Bakshi’s The Hobbit”???

Baskshi did half of the Lord of the Rings before running out of money.

The Hobbit was done by Rankin-Bass. Also, Rankin-Bass then did a very compressed version of Return of the King, unofficially concluding Bakshi's half-completed version of LotR.
Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:34 PM (KRtlO)

Well I feel stupid…

Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:36 PM (PCK5/)

319 BR 2049 was as nice to look at as I thought it would be.

Had no idea what was happening at any time, but real purty to look at.

Posted by: eleven at September 01, 2023 04:36 PM (iziT8)

320 >>>09 I liked Peter Jackson's LOTR. I thought he did a wonderful job. I even liked the The Hobbit, although, yes, it's nowhere near as good as LOTR.

I'm learning to... appreciate the Hobbit, at least parts of it. I tell you, in the bloated extended editions, the padding they put in with Galdalf visiting what he thinks is the Witch-King's tomb is GREAT. It's only five minutes and it has nothing to do with the story but it's good.

His capture at Dol Goldur is also pretty good.

Weirdly some of the padding is good. I like Tauriel! I like the Love That Was Broken!

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:36 PM (KRtlO)

321 Yeah I heard that from a lot of people.
I'm not one of them.
I loved it, it's one of my favorite movies.


Favorite? No. But I thought it was pretty solid.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 04:36 PM (I/Qkd)

322 301 Did not care for Blade Runner 2049. Cinematography was excellent though.
Posted by: runner at September 01, 2023 04:33 PM (idBr5)

I agree beautiful movie. I think it was said that SOLDIER with Kurt Russel is in the same universe as Blade Runner

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 04:37 PM (dKiJG)

323 >>>Well I feel stupid…

Posted by: tubal

don't worry, you're dealing with a guy who is currently obsessed with LoTR.

Hint: This has to do with that shameful hobby I mentioned last week.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:37 PM (KRtlO)

324 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:35 PM (t0OGg)

Whoever buys out Lucas, will change 'Disney' Cannon... bank on it...

Now, they could redo rides like they did Pirates of the Carribean... which people (including me) did NOT like... but its a lose lose situation.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 01, 2023 04:37 PM (oHd/0)

325 Blade Runner 2049 is terribly boring and dumb.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 04:29 PM (dKiJG)

I agree. Plus, why am I rooting for robots? I think there were maybe 3 human characters in the entire movie.

Galaxy Quest is excellent. It caught lightning in a bottle.

Posted by: WOPR at September 01, 2023 04:37 PM (WFJRS)

326 Resident Mush-For-Brains wants to have the technical ability to turn off your electricity:

https://t.ly/6SdgU

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 01, 2023 04:37 PM (ShSlZ)

327 I'm not the target audience for anything Star Wars at this point anyway, but when I looked up Asucka, the lead was, of course, the talentless and insufferable Rosario Dawson, who they keep casting in tons of nerd entertainment. She's weird looking, not attractive.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at September 01, 2023 04:37 PM (ppBhU)

328 Notice nobody but nobody is bringing up the Harry Potter Saga… a bridge too far…
Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:34 PM (PCK5/)

I like those too. Fun movies.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 01, 2023 04:37 PM (BdMk6)

329 I rate the Indiana Jones movies this way, myself:
1a. Last Crusade
1b. Raiders
5. Temple of Doom
50. Crystal Skull
Infinitieth place: whatever the one that just came out was called

Posted by: Andy_in_Colorado at September 01, 2023 04:38 PM (tBHkr)

330 Prayers for you both, Nurse.

Posted by: Kratwurst at September 01, 2023 04:38 PM (nIRE6)

331 318 303 >>>281 No love for Ralph Bakshi’s The Hobbit”???

Baskshi did half of the Lord of the Rings before running out of money.

The Hobbit was done by Rankin-Bass. Also, Rankin-Bass then did a very compressed version of Return of the King, unofficially concluding Bakshi's half-completed version of LotR.
Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:34 PM (KRtlO)

Well I feel stupid…
Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:36 PM (PCK5/)

Don't feel too bad. The boss said it himself:

"But don't listen to me. I'm just an aging pseudo-nerd who is currently re-obsessed with The Lord of the Rings."

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 01, 2023 04:38 PM (/iWhV)

332 I'm forced to watch one of my patients, who we see once a week, fail. His cancer is robbing him of all dignity. His eyes are losing their sparkle. His shin is ashen. His hair is gone. Teeth are grey. His clothes are barely hanging on his frame. He stinks of chemicals and death.
He's afraid.
I want off this boat.
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan'

When I was 17 my teen summer job was at a cancer center hospital where nobody left alive. Multiple Myeloma is the worst, you watch people melt. They literally melt. And watching their families not let go was even worse.
Sucks, Nurse.
Otter 841!

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:38 PM (/BBNv)

333 Weirdly some of the padding is good. I like Tauriel! I like the Love That Was Broken!
Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:36 PM (KRtlO)

The Love that dare not speak its name?

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 01, 2023 04:38 PM (i9ffA)

334 Hint: This has to do with that shameful hobby I mentioned last week.
Posted by: ace


Eating your boogers?

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 01, 2023 04:38 PM (JWYBQ)

335 >>>Plus, Viggo Mortensen and Orlando Bloom.

Orlando Bloom is really weak in the movie. As someone who has watched the Extended Editions of LOTR like six times straight in the past two months, trust me, he's weak.

Even his acting of merely *looking* into the distance is not believable.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:38 PM (KRtlO)

336 don't worry, you're dealing with a guy who is currently obsessed with LoTR

So have you read "The Silmarillion" yet? Has a much more biblical tone to it.

Posted by: Halfhand at September 01, 2023 04:38 PM (2/sPZ)

337 And I love the LOTR movies (not the Hobbit). Movie quality goes downhill in a hurry after 2003's Return of the King

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 04:39 PM (xcxpd)

338 If Disney can no longer release new content, and t won't for a considerable time after settling the writers and actors strikes, they will suddenly develop a strange new respect for their older titles.

In a weird way, this could (sadly) help them.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 01, 2023 04:39 PM (ShSlZ)

339
Disney can't sell Lucas Films because they would lose all the trademarked character stuff... which they have built part of their Theme Parks around.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 01, 2023 04:33 PM (oHd/0)

=======

The sales contract can include the ability to use the Lucas Film IP at the parks. Anything can be negotiated in a sale.

Posted by: rd at September 01, 2023 04:40 PM (U3/nY)

340 333 Weirdly some of the padding is good. I like Tauriel! I like the Love That Was Broken!
Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:36 PM (KRtlO)

The Love that dare not speak its name?
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 01, 2023 04:38 PM (i9ffA)

Nah, that's just gayness. This is elf on dwarf action. Even pornhub won't support that shit.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 04:40 PM (xcxpd)

341 >>>So have you read "The Silmarillion" yet? Has a much more biblical tone to it.

no, I don't think I can wade through the religious mythology of it.

My compromise is this: When I read LotR again, this time I PROMISE I will actually read through all the songs about Beren and Luthien (or whoever) and will even dip my toes into the appendices of RotK.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:40 PM (KRtlO)

342 The usage of IP in the parks is not that big a problem - it can be solved in the contract and probably won't even result in a significant change of value, since parks licensing is fairly special and there are damn few buyers in the first place. This would likely *not* entitle Disney to future IP (characters, stories, etc.) for the parks and they'd have to bid on those like everyone else, but the existing stuff can be carved out pretty simply.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:35 PM (t0OGg)

See Universals use of Marvel characters at the Orlando Parks

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 04:40 PM (dKiJG)

343 Plus, Viggo Mortensen and Orlando Bloom.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 01, 2023 04:35 PM (DRSnL)

The wife always had to watch the scene where Aragon draws the sword in "Return of the King."

Posted by: WOPR at September 01, 2023 04:40 PM (WFJRS)

344 Both Bladerunners are boring and dumb. Yes, Isaid it.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 01, 2023 04:34 PM (JTwsP)

Concur. Boring and dumb so they have all kinds of “director’s asshole” cuts and different endings and oh, it’s still crapola.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 01, 2023 04:40 PM (R/m4+)

345 the lead was, of course, the talentless and insufferable Rosario Dawson, who they keep casting in tons of nerd entertainment. She's weird looking, not attractive.

Her nostrils are asymmetric. No, this isn't a TJM (and now Fen) joke.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 04:41 PM (I/Qkd)

346 My compromise is this: When I read LotR again, this time I PROMISE I will actually read through all the songs about Beren and Luthien (or whoever) and will even dip my toes into the appendices of RotK.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:40 PM (KRtlO)
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I always skip the prologue concerning hobbits...I think I've read it once, just to say I did it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:41 PM (YIVH2)

347 Joe, I agree it won't be sold while Iger is there - for the reasons Ace outlined.

Just another reason to root against Disney - the sooner Iger is gone, the sooner they bring in a true axe man to cut everything that's not parks and kids movies - "rededicating Disney to our core values" or some such. And sell everything else off and not care how it bad it looks - because it was the last guy's fuckup.

Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at September 01, 2023 04:41 PM (5C4od)

348 The Love that dare not speak its name?
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 01, 2023 04:38 PM (i9ffA)

Nah, that's just gayness. This is elf on dwarf action. Even pornhub won't support that shit.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo

We got you.

Posted by: XVideos at September 01, 2023 04:41 PM (/BBNv)

349 Is Garrett Tauriel when you watch that?

Posted by: Kratwurst at September 01, 2023 04:41 PM (nIRE6)

350 >>>If Disney can no longer release new content, and t won't for a considerable time after settling the writers and actors strikes, they will suddenly develop a strange new respect for their older titles.

I keep waiting for them to discontinue DVD and Blu Ray sales of classic titles so people will be forced to subscribe to Disney+ in order to watch them.

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 01, 2023 04:42 PM (xPl2J)

351 When I was 17 my teen summer job was at a cancer center hospital where nobody left alive. Multiple Myeloma is the worst, you watch people melt. They literally melt. And watching their families not let go was even worse.
Sucks, Nurse.
Otter 841!
Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:38 PM (/BBNv)

That stinks. Rep. Steve Scalise has Multiple Myeloma.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 01, 2023 04:42 PM (/iWhV)

352 Both Bladerunners are boring and dumb. Yes, Isaid it.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 01, 2023 04:34 PM (JTwsP)
++++
The second one was boring. The first one I did not find to be boring, but it is very slow and probably didn't need to be.

Both are beautiful, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 01, 2023 04:42 PM (t0OGg)

353 I found the shape of an elf- vagina...surprising.

Posted by: Kili at September 01, 2023 04:42 PM (9u+2h)

354 Why did they take boobies out of every movie? Used to be every R rated movie had some boobies in it. Even some PG13 ones.

Bring back boobies and you’ll get viewers.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 01, 2023 04:42 PM (JTwsP)

355 Eating your boogers?

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 01, 2023 04:38 PM (JWYBQ)


Shaving your feet?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 01, 2023 04:42 PM (M5QzP)

356 >>> Both Bladerunners are boring and dumb. Yes, Isaid it

agreed but the production design is amazeballs and worth the price of admission.

watching the city shots in HD on a good tv is really something.

And then the boring unlikable characters and boring plot interrupts the visuals.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:42 PM (KRtlO)

357 Dawson was a mistake....i can see Kathleen Kennedy's paw all over that decision

Posted by: runner at September 01, 2023 04:42 PM (idBr5)

358 This is elf on dwarf action. Even pornhub won't support that shit.

At this point, we should just be thankful that a post-Rings Gimli-Legolas gay love story is not being made.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at September 01, 2023 04:42 PM (ppBhU)

359 325 Blade Runner 2049 is terribly boring and dumb.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 04:29 PM (dKiJG)

I agree. Plus, why am I rooting for robots? I think there were maybe 3 human characters in the entire movie.:"

BR 2049 was all about the noir style in the original BR, but did not understand what it was about at all, and the creators of it especially did not understand what made it work. Critical Drinker has done a great essay on why a drama is only as good as it's supposed "evil" characters. The Hero has to rise above them in order to succeed, but that means they have to have great depth to them as well. That's why Darth Vader is one of the greatest villains in film history.

BR 2049 had villians that were cardboard cutout characters, no personality, no motivation, boring as hell. And thus the movie was boring as hell, no matter how good it looked.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 01, 2023 04:42 PM (i9ffA)

360 341 >>>So have you read "The Silmarillion" yet? Has a much more biblical tone to it.

no, I don't think I can wade through the religious mythology of it.

My compromise is this: When I read LotR again, this time I PROMISE I will actually read through all the songs about Beren and Luthien (or whoever) and will even dip my toes into the appendices of RotK.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:40 PM (KRtlO)

Well if it helps, the mythology is more Norse than Christian. Theology barely enters into it, it reads more like myths and legends.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 04:43 PM (xcxpd)

361 268 Peter Jackson's LotR is a abomination
Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2023 04:27 PM (V97j+)
______

I cannot forgive their cutting the scene on Mt Doom where Frodo makes Gollum swear on the Ring he won't again try to take The Precious. It's key to the ending; in Jackson's version, it just happens.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 01, 2023 04:43 PM (brAQZ)

362 Weirdly some of the padding is good. I like Tauriel! I like the Love That Was Broken!
Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:36 PM (KRtlO)

Well, since we're mentioning Tauriel, the actor who plays her love interest Kili (Aidan Turner) is one of the main reasons I like the movies.

He was also fabulous in Poldark which was a PBS series a couple of years ago. I think he's a great actor (and yes, he's very easy on the eyes).

Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 01, 2023 04:43 PM (6xRrr)

363
I really liked the National Treasure films, but they are Disney so the next one will be so woke that it will destroy any joy that the original brought.

Posted by: portlandon at September 01, 2023 04:43 PM (+oR7L)

364 The ability to turn off your electric is why they push for all electric everything. No individual independence is allowed.

Posted by: Bob Hope at September 01, 2023 04:43 PM (MeG8a)

365 +>>>I always skip the prologue concerning hobbits...I think I've read it once, just to say I did it.

i never skip that, I like that part.

the songs and poems I ALWAYS skipped.

also, a lot of the trudging through Mordor, all the sam and frodo stuff in TTT and RotK -- I skipped a HUGE amount of that.

I get it, the Ring is such a burden, your wound still aches, you're walking, you're tired, Sam mops your brow and kisses it, I get it, bring on Shelob.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:44 PM (KRtlO)

366 The wife always had to watch the scene where Aragon draws the sword in "Return of the King."
Posted by: WOPR at September 01, 2023 04:40 PM (WFJRS)

=====

She has good taste.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 01, 2023 04:44 PM (DRSnL)

367 341 >>>So have you read "The Silmarillion" yet? Has a much more biblical tone to it.

no, I don't think I can wade through the religious mythology of it.

My compromise is this: When I read LotR again, this time I PROMISE I will actually read through all the songs about Beren and Luthien (or whoever) and will even dip my toes into the appendices of RotK.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:40 PM (KRtlO)

you are missing out on some pure beauty.

Posted by: observer at September 01, 2023 04:44 PM (9u+2h)

368 @341
My compromise is this: When I read LotR again, this time I PROMISE I will actually read through all the songs about Beren and Luthien (or whoever) and will even dip my toes into the appendices of RotK.

----

There are parts of The Silmarillion that are easy to read on their own, and that require minimal knowledge of what came before. "The Children of Hurin" is IIRC lifted word for word from Silmarillion, and makes for a good (if depressing) independent read. The main problem is actually knowing where to look to find the stories in question.

Posted by: junior at September 01, 2023 04:44 PM (cvpj0)

369 358 This is elf on dwarf action. Even pornhub won't support that shit.

At this point, we should just be thankful that a post-Rings Gimli-Legolas gay love story is not being made.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at September 01, 2023 04:42 PM (ppBhU)

Considering some stories I've heard about John Rhys-Davies...yeah, dodged a bullet there.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 04:44 PM (xcxpd)

370 All the right people are getting rich, so this isn't really what is usually defined as a "problem".

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 01, 2023 04:44 PM (5X4Qb)

371 Rosalind Russell was also a devoted Roman Catholic from am Irish family and here she recounts a story of faith in the midst of helplessness in WWII:

https://tinyurl.com/yckfhvsp

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2023 04:44 PM (RSbhh)

372 >>>
I really liked the National Treasure films, but they are Disney so the next one will be so woke that it will destroy any joy that the original brought.

me too, I really like those, but I'm a huge Nicholas Cage fan so that works in their favor.

but really good. I like Sean Bean as the not-so-villainous villain.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:45 PM (KRtlO)

373 341 >>>So have you read "The Silmarillion" yet? Has a much more biblical tone to it.

no, I don't think I can wade through the religious mythology of it.

My compromise is this: When I read LotR again, this time I PROMISE I will actually read through all the songs about Beren and Luthien (or whoever) and will even dip my toes into the appendices of RotK.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:40 PM (KRtlO)
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I'm with you. I've tried 4 times, and just can't do it. Dull.

PS: I agree with those who say Galaxy Quest is the greatest Star Trek movie.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 01, 2023 04:45 PM (brAQZ)

374 I found the shape of an elf- vagina...surprising.
Posted by: Kili at September 01, 2023 04:42 PM (9u+2h)

**snort**

Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 01, 2023 04:45 PM (6xRrr)

375 I really liked the National Treasure films, but they are Disney so the next one will be so woke that it will destroy any joy that the original brought.

Posted by: portlandon at September 01, 2023 04:43 PM (+oR7L)

Already did it. There was a National Treasure TV series where the lead was an illegal alien Latina.

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 01, 2023 04:45 PM (xPl2J)

376 And then the boring unlikable characters and boring plot interrupts the visuals.


Sean Young in 40s era clothes and makeup?
*chef's kiss*

Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 04:45 PM (I/Qkd)

377 Shelob...pfft

Posted by: Ungoliant at September 01, 2023 04:45 PM (9u+2h)

378 yeah, IK I'm supposed to be banned but nope

banned by the hypocrite CBD

like for saying "chink" while he calls illegal aliens "wetbacks"'

I've been banned by 2 people here. Gabe and CBD

CBD even used the lame Doyle Hargraves line when I complained

you OK with this ace ??

Posted by: REDACTED at September 01, 2023 04:45 PM (8kbeB)

379 Their was no voight kampff test in the The Sequel, they can just ask you to look up and see a serial number and know you are a replicant

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 04:45 PM (dKiJG)

380 358 This is elf on dwarf action. Even pornhub won't support that shit.

At this point, we should just be thankful that a post-Rings Gimli-Legolas gay love story is not being made.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at September 01, 2023 04:42 PM (ppBhU)

Especially since Legolas saw Gimli as a wee young lad years and years before they met in person.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 01, 2023 04:45 PM (/iWhV)

381 Having just finished the most recent season of Justified, I can't recommend it.
Other than my wife says I look like Raylan (Timothy Oliphant).
Which is true.

Posted by: Bob Hope at September 01, 2023 04:45 PM (MeG8a)

382 I think the first BladeRunner is the greatest Sci Fi movie ever made. The key is understanding thatt Roy Batty is actually the hero of the movie, and that Deckard and the Blade Runners are just slave catching teams for a thoroughly corrupt and evil society. Roy Batty wins in the end, but he still has to die, because that's how he was built.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 01, 2023 04:45 PM (i9ffA)

383 Adian Turner was in the far superior BBC version of Being Human, Despite being 100% not gay, I found that show quite enjoyable. It’s what launched his career.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 01, 2023 04:46 PM (JTwsP)

384 I cannot forgive their cutting the scene on Mt Doom where Frodo makes Gollum swear on the Ring he won't again try to take The Precious. It's key to the ending; in Jackson's version, it just happens.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 01, 2023 04:43 PM (brAQZ)
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Agreed. Frodo draws upon the power of the One Ring to inflict a geas upon Gollum. Gollum is now cursed to his own destruction.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:46 PM (YIVH2)

385 The Dolby surround in BR 2049 in deafening volume sold me.

BOOM

Yeah the movie kinda sucked but it was a rare experience.

And Ana DeArmas was cute as a button.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:46 PM (/BBNv)

386 353 I found the shape of an elf- vagina...surprising.
Posted by: Kili at September 01, 2023 04:42 PM (9u+2h)

It's all the extra teeth, right?

Posted by: Thrawn at September 01, 2023 04:46 PM (uGhsv)

387 >>>you OK with this ace ??

yes, stop using racist slurs when someone tells you they object. This isn't your fucking site, muh dude. If you want to let your inner racist out, I strongly suggest you seek fresh opportunities on other blogs.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:47 PM (KRtlO)

388
Amazon Plus is showing "Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid" currently, which is often cited in the CGI- related contract difficulties.

Watching the old stars seamlessly blended in to a 1982 movie is great.

Watching peak Rachel Ward is staggering.

Posted by: Auspex at September 01, 2023 04:47 PM (j4U/Z)

389 Off Bob Sock

Posted by: gourmand du jour at September 01, 2023 04:47 PM (MeG8a)

390 Galaxy Quest is excellent. It caught lightning in a bottle.
Posted by: WOPR at September 01, 2023 04:37 PM (WFJRS)

One of those movies where I stop if I'm flipping channels. I friggin' love this movie.

Master and Commander and Gladiator are two other examples. And Tombstone.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Missing the Point at September 01, 2023 04:47 PM (T/Lqj)

391 Having just finished the most recent season of Justified, I can't recommend it.
Other than my wife says I look like Raylan (Timothy Oliphant).
Which is true.
Posted by: Bob Hope at September 01, 2023 04:45 PM (MeG8a)

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Ooooh. How YOU doin'?

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 01, 2023 04:47 PM (DRSnL)

392 Even his acting of merely *looking* into the distance is not believable.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:38 PM

His using a shield as a snowboard to slide down the stairs while shooting arrows was the shark jump act.

Posted by: portlandon at September 01, 2023 04:47 PM (+oR7L)

393 Mr Ace, when you re-read LotR pay extra attention to Ch 2, The Shadow of the Past, wherein Gandalf explains that The Ring takes care of itself.

Frodo didn't volunteer to take The Ring to Mordor and destroy it, The Ring chose Frodo to get it to Mordor.

Posted by: davidt at September 01, 2023 04:47 PM (SYTee)

394 The girl who plays Sabine Wren is a pretty good match. I first saw her in Sword of Destiny .

Posted by: runner at September 01, 2023 04:47 PM (idBr5)

395 i never skip that, I like that part.
the songs and poems I ALWAYS skipped.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:44 PM (KRtlO)

I always skip the Tom Bombadillo part. Can't stand that crap.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 01, 2023 04:47 PM (6xRrr)

396 I think the first BladeRunner is the greatest Sci Fi movie ever made. The key is understanding thatt Roy Batty is actually the hero of the movie, and that Deckard and the Blade Runners are just slave catching teams for a thoroughly corrupt and evil society. Roy Batty wins in the end, but he still has to die, because that's how he was built.
Posted by: Tom Servo'

I went through that with Suleiman 66. I agree, the first BR is just a vision.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:48 PM (/BBNv)

397 I believe I remember Lucas saying The original Star Wars was based on ancient mythology. True or not I dont know but since they've run out of creative ideas you would think they could plumb the depths they're for new stories. This spit ball at a whiteboard method isn't working.

Posted by: Lancelot_Link at September 01, 2023 04:48 PM (Pzcsd)

398 I think the first BladeRunner is the greatest Sci Fi movie ever made.

It's either Blade Runner or 2001.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 04:48 PM (I/Qkd)

399 >>>Their was no voight kampff test in the The Sequel, they can just ask you to look up and see a serial number and know you are a replicant

I liked the code-and-return-code sequence he went through. I guess to prove he hadn't developed emotions yet? I dunno, I just thought it was kind of cool.

Everything else was lame, including Harrison Ford, who is almost always lame.

It's like he feels he cannot lower himself to give the viewer a good time.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:48 PM (KRtlO)

400 Beren and Luthien is the best story in The Silmarillion.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 01, 2023 04:48 PM (44ww/)

401 382 I think the first BladeRunner is the greatest Sci Fi movie ever made. The key is understanding thatt Roy Batty is actually the hero of the movie, and that Deckard and the Blade Runners are just slave catching teams for a thoroughly corrupt and evil society. Roy Batty wins in the end, but he still has to die, because that's how he was built.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 01, 2023 04:45 PM (i9ffA)

Yes. Blade Runner is a masterpiece. Still holds up

Posted by: Milquetoast Mortgage-Paying Neighbor in Flyover Country at September 01, 2023 04:48 PM (5C4od)

402 Adian Turner was in the far superior BBC version of Being Human, Despite being 100% not gay, I found that show quite enjoyable. It’s what launched his career.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 01, 2023 04:46 PM (JTwsP)

Oh, hell yes! Very good series. He's also wonderful as Gabriel Dante Rosetti in Desperate Romantics. It's a six-part series and it's absolutely wonderful.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 01, 2023 04:49 PM (6xRrr)

403 Even his acting of merely *looking* into the distance is not believable.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:38 PM

His using a shield as a snowboard to slide down the stairs while shooting arrows was the shark jump act.
Posted by: portlandon at September 01, 2023 04:47 PM (+oR7L)

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Whatever. He's sexy.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 01, 2023 04:49 PM (DRSnL)

404 I keep waiting for them to discontinue DVD and Blu Ray sales of classic titles so people will be forced to subscribe to Disney+ in order to watch them.
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 01, 2023 04:42 PM (xPl2J)

I read somewhere that you’re going to stop doing the blue rays very soon.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 04:49 PM (dKiJG)

405 I believe I remember Lucas saying The original Star Wars was based on ancient mythology. True or not I dont know but since they've run out of creative ideas you would think they could plumb the depths they're for new stories. This spit ball at a whiteboard method isn't working.
Posted by: Lancelot_Link'

Lucas 'co-wrote' that movie with Joseph Campbell.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:49 PM (/BBNv)

406 >>>I always skip the Tom Bombadillo part. Can't stand that crap.

oh yeah. BUT... So the movies omit Bombadil, which is understandable, but that also required them then not filming the awesome Barrow Wights part, becuase Tom Bombadil does a Gandalf and appears out of nowhere to save them. You can't have the Barrow Wights without Bombadil.

I'm going to try to... Appreciate Tom Bombadil this time. And Goodberry. And his Bright Yellow Boots.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:50 PM (KRtlO)

407 It's actually The Ring telling Gollum, "Hands off!"

Posted by: davidt at September 01, 2023 04:50 PM (SYTee)

408 Watching peak Rachel Ward is staggering.


She absolutely smote me in Thorn Birds. Yes, my wife wanted me to watch it, so I did. Little did she suspect I would have anyway, just to see RW and listen to that throaty voice.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 04:50 PM (I/Qkd)

409 >>> 18 Willowed, and I love the Disney train wreck:

We are nearing Third World country status, if we are not already there.

A snippet from the Barrick annual report I received today, under 'cautionary statement on forward looking activities:

"expropriation or nationalization of property and political or economic developments in Canada, the United States, or other countries in which Barrick does or may carry on business in the future,"


Lovely.
==
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 01, 2023 03:41 PM (ufFY

The retards see the cliff edge, and want to accelerate over it...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 01, 2023 04:50 PM (llON8)

410 Mmmmm Rachel Ward

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:51 PM (/BBNv)

411 oh yeah. BUT... So the movies omit Bombadil, which is understandable, but that also required them then not filming the awesome Barrow Wights part, becuase Tom Bombadil does a Gandalf and appears out of nowhere to save them. You can't have the Barrow Wights without Bombadil.

I'm going to try to... Appreciate Tom Bombadil this time. And Goodberry. And his Bright Yellow Boots.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:50 PM (KRtlO)
----
Tom Bombadil is the greatest mystery of Middle Earth. Even Tolkien couldn't define who he was.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:51 PM (YIVH2)

412 I'm going to try to... Appreciate Tom Bombadil this time. And Goodberry. And his Bright Yellow Boots.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:50 PM (KRtlO)

Baombadill can get fvcked. Lamest thing ever. Intolerable.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 01, 2023 04:51 PM (5X4Qb)

413 Frodo didn't volunteer to take The Ring to Mordor and destroy it, The Ring chose Frodo to get it to Mordor.
Posted by: davidt at September 01, 2023 04:47 PM (SYTee)

*Sigh* the Ring chose Frodo to get it out of the roots of the mountain and back into the open. The Powers (fate/ The Music of the Ainur) chose Frodo.

Posted by: LOTR Freak at September 01, 2023 04:51 PM (9u+2h)

414 Seen 1st Blade Runner maybe 10 times, yet to see 2nd

Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2023 04:52 PM (MOY79)

415 >>>Watching peak Rachel Ward is staggering.


Can confirm.

Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid. Steve Martin wrote it in the script that he gets to "adjust her breasts" and grope her while she's unconscious.

He is proud of that writing.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:52 PM (KRtlO)

416 See… this IS a fun thread… and it feels damned good!!

Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:52 PM (PCK5/)

417 My son met Viggo Mortenson once. He said, nice guy, kind of quiet, and short (Son is six-two).

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Missing the Point at September 01, 2023 04:52 PM (T/Lqj)

418 If you went back in time to 1977 with a 35mm copy of Guardians of the Galaxy, no one would remember Star Wars.

It's nostalgia, it's not wrong to be whistful, but FFS let it go and hop on something that hasn't been ruined.

They haven't actually ruined 90% of all the stories out there, it just seems that way.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 01, 2023 04:52 PM (44ww/)

419 408 Watching peak Rachel Ward is staggering.


She absolutely smote me in Thorn Birds. Yes, my wife wanted me to watch it, so I did. Little did she suspect I would have anyway, just to see RW and listen to that throaty voice.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 04:50 PM (I/Qkd)

Bryan Brown knew a pearl of great price when he saw it. They met on Thorn Birds, got married, and are still together 40 years later.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 01, 2023 04:52 PM (/iWhV)

420
Whatever. He's sexy.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 01, 2023 04:49 PM (DRSnL)

#$@* I skip 20 comments and I miss the good stuff.
Who's sexy?

Posted by: Iris at September 01, 2023 04:52 PM (n3DL0)

421 Tom Bombadil is the greatest mystery of Middle Earth. Even Tolkien couldn't define who he was.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 01, 2023 04:51 PM (YIVH2)

That's because it is dumb and makes no sense and is completely at odds with everything else.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 01, 2023 04:52 PM (5X4Qb)

422 From the side bar:

But in the 60s, 70s, and I guess into the early 80s, it was just accepted that every tenth rock "love" song would be about an adult man who "loves" a girl who "fools" say is "too young" for him. (Content warning but hilarious.)

———-

I just heard a Ringo Star song from the 70s wherein he professes his love for a sixteen year old girl. Hell the song’s title is Sixteen.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 01, 2023 04:52 PM (xLon1)

423 See… this IS a fun thread… and it feels damned good!!
Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:52 PM (PCK5/)

Yes, a good way to close out the week.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Missing the Point at September 01, 2023 04:52 PM (T/Lqj)

424 >>>Whatever. He's sexy.

I want to hear about Sam the Brave...!

Posted by: Frodo at September 01, 2023 04:52 PM (KRtlO)

425 Whatever. He's sexy.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 01, 2023 04:49 PM (DRSnL)

Orlando Bloom is the reason I started watching the movies in the first place.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 01, 2023 04:53 PM (6xRrr)

426 326 Resident Mush-For-Brains wants to have the technical ability to turn off your electricity:

https://t.ly/6SdgU

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 01, 2023 04:37 PM (ShSlZ)


This has been one of the Left's objectives for as long as I can remember.

Posted by: GL at September 01, 2023 04:53 PM (5fDan)

427 #$@* I skip 20 comments and I miss the good stuff.
Who's sexy?
Posted by: Iris at September 01, 2023 04:52 PM (n3DL0)

=====

Orlando Bloom

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 01, 2023 04:53 PM (DRSnL)

428 398 It's either Blade Runner or 2001

Nah. The Black Hole.

Posted by: Barry O at September 01, 2023 04:53 PM (nIRE6)

429
415 >>>Watching peak Rachel Ward is staggering.


Can confirm.

Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid. Steve Martin wrote it in the script that he gets to "adjust her breasts" and grope her while she's unconscious.

He is proud of that writing.
Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:52 PM (KRtlO)

Great line… funny movie… also loved The Man with Two Brains..

Posted by: tubal at September 01, 2023 04:53 PM (PCK5/)

430 412 I'm going to try to... Appreciate Tom Bombadil this time. And Goodberry. And his Bright Yellow Boots.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:50 PM (KRtlO)

Baombadill can get fvcked. Lamest thing ever. Intolerable.
Posted by: Thesokorus at September 01, 2023 04:51 PM (5X4Qb)

Hey Merry dol, derry dol!!!

Posted by: Tom Bombadil at September 01, 2023 04:53 PM (9u+2h)

431 I think Tom Bombadil is actually kind of important. It shows that there are powers that the Ring has no authority over. He's a lingering demigod, a riddle. I like those kinds of riddles.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 04:53 PM (xcxpd)

432 Lucas 'co-wrote' that movie with Joseph Campbell.
Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:49 PM (/BBNv)

Joseph Campbell with a big assist from Akiro Kurosawa. (The Hidden Fortress)

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 01, 2023 04:53 PM (i9ffA)

433 #$@* I skip 20 comments and I miss the good stuff.
Who's sexy?
Posted by: Iris'

I'm too sexy for my shirt. So sexy it hurts.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:54 PM (/BBNv)

434 My son met Viggo Mortenson once. He said, nice guy, kind of quiet, and short (Son is six-two).
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Missing the Point at September 01, 2023 04:52 PM (T/Lqj)

Ptob has a huge noggin too. Big skull little fellas.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 01, 2023 04:54 PM (5X4Qb)

435 Tolien's children had a doll named Tom Bombadil.

Posted by: davidt at September 01, 2023 04:54 PM (SYTee)

436 >>>That's because it is dumb and makes no sense and is completely at odds with everything else.

Some YouTuber said that Bombadil was necessary to show "the veil" in mythic stories that divides the mundane world of home from the mystery and magic of the outer world of adventure. He said something like, most great myths have some kind of "threshold" like this where you cross from one into the other.

I don't necessarily endorse that. Just sharing an idea.



Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:54 PM (KRtlO)

437 426 326 Resident Mush-For-Brains wants to have the technical ability to turn off your electricity:

https://t.ly/6SdgU

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 01, 2023 04:37 PM (ShSlZ)


This has been one of the Left's objectives for as long as I can remember.
Posted by: GL at September 01, 2023 04:53 PM (5fDan)

and EVs make it even more likely. Remotely turning your car into a useless brick.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 01, 2023 04:54 PM (/iWhV)

438 408 Watching peak Rachel Ward is staggering.
She absolutely smote me in Thorn Birds.
________
And Sharky's Machine. And Against All Odds.

Posted by: scampydog at September 01, 2023 04:54 PM (2bFN5)

439 I'm going to try to... Appreciate Tom Bombadil this time. And Goodberry. And his Bright Yellow Boots.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:50 PM (KRtlO)

You're a better man than I am*. I wish you luck.

*(Actually I'm a chick, but you get the idea...)

Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 01, 2023 04:54 PM (6xRrr)

440 >>> 244 Isn't it weird how "Superhero fatigue" set in at the exact moment superhero movies became woke propaganda?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 01, 2023 04:21 PM (9yUzE)

"Help! I'm having a Coincidence!" -- Marvel Studios

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 01, 2023 04:54 PM (llON8)

441 Bryan Brown knew a pearl of great price when he saw it. They met on Thorn Birds, got married, and are still together 40 years later.

And Richard Chamberlain thought "No, I'd rather have that dude's backside". The world is a strange place.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 04:55 PM (I/Qkd)

442 National Treasure with Nick is an awesome flick. Even the second one.
I might have to watch them this weekend.

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at September 01, 2023 04:55 PM (geB2x)

443 Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 04:50 PM (I/Qkd)

Agree. Rachel Ward was, to use a tired old word, breathtaking...in the good way; not the ugly baby in Seinfeld way.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Missing the Point at September 01, 2023 04:55 PM (T/Lqj)

444 After all these years I am still angry about Tom Bombadil hahahah.

It's amazing yet true.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 01, 2023 04:55 PM (5X4Qb)

445 >>>Great line… funny movie… also loved The Man with Two Brains..

My favorite movie from him. So good, so silly.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:55 PM (KRtlO)

446 382 I think the first BladeRunner is the greatest Sci Fi movie ever made. The key is understanding thatt Roy Batty is actually the hero of the movie, and that Deckard and the Blade Runners are just slave catching teams for a thoroughly corrupt and evil society. Roy Batty wins in the end, but he still has to die, because that's how he was built.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 01, 2023 04:45 PM (i9ffA)

I love this movie just because it was one of the last movies my Mom took me to before she Died and I hated making Ford a replicant. The opening scene always blows me away

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 04:55 PM (dKiJG)

447 I believe I remember Lucas saying The original Star Wars was based on ancient mythology.

Bullshit. Original Star Wars was based on every damn Samurai movie Lucas ever saw, with some Old West mixed in. He even copped to that in a few interviews.

And some special effects nobody had ever seen in the late 70s. It wasn't some secret, grand mythology or great story book. They made an Old West in Space movie with some Samurai elements of unflinching honor. And it was no more than that. They scrambled to make up shit when the box office receipts were good.

End. Of. Story.

Posted by: I Was There at September 01, 2023 04:56 PM (awKPx)

448 There are plenty of sites one can go almost for free and watch shows from 30 years ago or so, that aren't crap.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 01, 2023 04:56 PM (lTGtQ)

449 Joseph Campbell with a big assist from Akiro Kurosawa. (The Hidden Fortress)
Posted by: Tom Servo'

Now, I have watched 'The Hidden Fortress' several times and am I the only one who really doesn't see the connection? I mean, they just don't seem similar to me. I'm not kidding, they just don't seem related at all.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:56 PM (/BBNv)

450 Did Steve Martin also write in the bit where Rachel Ward adjusts Steve's willy?

Posted by: davidt at September 01, 2023 04:56 PM (SYTee)

451 'Against All Odds' is the poster child for remakes done right.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 04:56 PM (xcxpd)

452 Hey, ho, merry, ho. Disngleberry put another shrimp on the barbie!

Posted by: Tom Bombabore at September 01, 2023 04:57 PM (ppBhU)

453 Agree. Rachel Ward was, to use a tired old word, breathtaking...in the good way; not the ugly baby in Seinfeld way.

Katherine Zeta Jones was close in the first Zorro, but she did not age well.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 04:57 PM (I/Qkd)

454 *Sigh* the Ring chose Frodo to get it out of the roots of the mountain and back into the open. The Powers (fate/ The Music of the Ainur) chose Frodo.
Posted by: LOTR Freak at September 01, 2023 04:51 PM (9u+2h)
_______

Bilbo.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 01, 2023 04:57 PM (brAQZ)

455 I always skip the Tom Bombadillo part. Can't stand that crap.

oh yeah. BUT... So the movies omit Bombadil, which is understandable, but that also required them then not filming the awesome Barrow Wights part, becuase Tom Bombadil does a Gandalf and appears out of nowhere to save them. You can't have the Barrow Wights without Bombadil.

I'm going to try to... Appreciate Tom Bombadil this time. And Goodberry. And his Bright Yellow Boots.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:50 PM (KRtlO)


I've read the Tom Bombadil parts a few time hoping they would get better but they never do.

The best I can figure is that Bombadil is God or an avatar of God if God was a goofy, hippie dickweed who could end the whole story right now but who refuses to do so cuz he's got guacamole and sprout sandwiches on whole wheat to eat or some such thing.

He's like Miles Davis when I saw him in Hong Kong. he played one great solo just to show you he could do if if he wished but instead diddledicked around the whole rest of the show playing little boops and beeps and laughing at you.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 01, 2023 04:57 PM (QzZeQ)

456 Buckaroo Banzai is a better re-make of Hidden Fortress.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 01, 2023 04:57 PM (5X4Qb)

457
Orlando Bloom
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 01, 2023 04:53 PM (DRSnL)

Acceptable answer. :-)

Posted by: Iris at September 01, 2023 04:57 PM (n3DL0)

458 Bullshit. Original Star Wars was based on every damn Samurai movie Lucas ever saw, with some Old West mixed in. He even copped to that in a few interviews."

I agree completely, the Light Saber is actually an incredibly stupid weapon, but Lucas wanted it because the katanas looked so cool in the Samurai movies.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 01, 2023 04:57 PM (i9ffA)

459 447 I believe I remember Lucas saying The original Star Wars was based on ancient mythology.

Bullshit. Original Star Wars was based on every damn Samurai movie Lucas ever saw, with some Old West mixed in. He even copped to that in a few interviews.

And some special effects nobody had ever seen in the late 70s. It wasn't some secret, grand mythology or great story book. They made an Old West in Space movie with some Samurai elements of unflinching honor. And it was no more than that. They scrambled to make up shit when the box office receipts were good.

End. Of. Story.
Posted by: I Was There at September 01, 2023 04:56 PM (awKPx)

The amazing thing about Episode 4 is that, even now, it looks a fresh as it did close to 50 (!!) years ago. The CGI in Episode 1 makes it look dated.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 01, 2023 04:57 PM (/iWhV)

460 And Sharky's Machine. And Against All Odds.
Posted by: scampydog'

Sharky's Machine is a CRIMINALLY underrated movie.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:58 PM (/BBNv)

461 Peter Jackson hyped up way more characters than JRR Tolkien wanted to stretch out his movies

Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2023 04:58 PM (MOY79)

462 454 *Sigh* the Ring chose Frodo to get it out of the roots of the mountain and back into the open. The Powers (fate/ The Music of the Ainur) chose Frodo.
Posted by: LOTR Freak at September 01, 2023 04:51 PM (9u+2h)
_______

Bilbo.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 01, 2023 04:57 PM (brAQZ)

Correct. My meds are just now kicking in...

Posted by: LOTR Freak at September 01, 2023 04:58 PM (9u+2h)

463 Disney (and its subordinates) is now a logo that advertises DON'T SEE THIS! YOU DON'T WANT IT!

Posted by: ChrisW at September 01, 2023 04:58 PM (PEgT0)

464 >>>The best I can figure is that Bombadil is God or an avatar of God if God was a goofy, hippie dickweed who could end the whole story right now but who refuses to do so cuz he's got guacamole and sprout sandwiches on whole wheat to eat or some such thing.


yeah, it's clumsy. The book spends 60 pages telling you he's the most powerful being on earth, and then the next 60 pages trying to contrive reasons why he doesn't just destroy the Ring then.

He'd just... forget about it if you entrusted it to him?

He'd forget? Like Danerys forgot about the Iron Fleet?

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:59 PM (KRtlO)

465 He's like Miles Davis when I saw him in Hong Kong. he played one great solo just to show you he could do if if he wished but instead diddledicked around the whole rest of the show playing little boops and beeps and laughing at you.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 01, 2023 04:57 PM (QzZeQ)

This was also a great way to end the week. I'm laughing my ass off right now.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 01, 2023 04:59 PM (6xRrr)

466 Buckaroo Banzai is a better re-make of Hidden Fortress.
Posted by: Thesokorus'

WHAT?

Okay, I will have to test this.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:59 PM (/BBNv)

467 I saw Rachel Ward in "Dead Men Tell No tales" last night on Max.

Anyway, just wow, what a beautiful woman. What ever happened to her.

She was a thing and then she wasn't.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 01, 2023 04:59 PM (QzZeQ)

468 Does anyone know if the Twin Towers in Anchorage have been rebuilt. I bet that is why Biden is going there to evaluate the construction site.

Posted by: Frank N. Stien at September 01, 2023 04:59 PM (0vFtj)

469 Bebop Jazz was a mistake

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 04:59 PM (xcxpd)

470 "And they add to it an even juicier allegation: that former CEO Bob Chapek and former CFO Christina McCarthy sold a big lot of their shares in Disney very near Disney's peak in 2021. And that they used insider information to make their decision to sell. The suit claims that these two knew that Disney 'Plus' would not become profitable and would not meet it subscription goals in 2022 or 2023...

But Bob Chapek did not tell shareholders that, the suit alleges. Rather, he went out publicly and declared that he was 'confident' Disney 'Plus' would be profitable by 2024."


Was that wrong? Should he/they not have done that? I'm sure that if that sort of thing was frowned upon, they'd not have done that.

Posted by: Jim Cramer, CNBC at September 01, 2023 05:00 PM (aXxgO)

471 >>>Sharky's Machine is a CRIMINALLY underrated movie.

I own it, it's awesome. Very very funny too. And it's not smirky like a lot of Burt Reynolds movies tend to be. Okay, it's slightly smirky, but not in a bad way.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 05:00 PM (KRtlO)

472 I'm going to try to... Appreciate Tom Bombadil this time. And Goodberry. And his Bright Yellow Boots.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 04:50 PM (KRtlO)

I read LOTR a lot. It was only the last time that I began to see why Tolkien included that part. I don't have time to write an essay about it at the moment, but Bombadil was part of the most ancient parts of Middle-earth. The fact that the Ring had no effect on him was powerful.

As for reading the books, I love Tolkien's voice. And as a poet, he holds up well with Kipling. I simply love reading them every couple years or so.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Missing the Point at September 01, 2023 05:00 PM (T/Lqj)

473 I believe I remember Lucas saying The original Star Wars was based on ancient mythology. True or not I dont know but since they've run out of creative ideas you would think they could plumb the depths they're for new stories. This spit ball at a whiteboard method isn't working.
Posted by: Lancelot_Link'

He stole from the Japanese Samurai movie THE LAST FORTRESS

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 05:00 PM (dKiJG)

474 437 426 326 Resident Mush-For-Brains wants to have the technical ability to turn off your electricity:

https://t.ly/6SdgU

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 01, 2023 04:37 PM (ShSlZ)


This has been one of the Left's objectives for as long as I can remember.
Posted by: GL at September 01, 2023 04:53 PM (5fDan)

and EVs make it even more likely. Remotely turning your car into a useless brick.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 01, 2023 04:54 PM (/iWhV)


Everything the Leftists push is a part of an overall plan to subjugate then eliminate the middle class.

Posted by: GL at September 01, 2023 05:00 PM (5fDan)

475 Someone brought up Thornbirds. A miniseries. Which is really what a lot of streaming content is, except most of the streaming is worse.

Shogun
The North and the South
The Day After
The Winds of War
Roots
Thornbirds

All were pretty good with high production value.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 01, 2023 05:00 PM (xLon1)

476 Anyway, just wow, what a beautiful woman. What ever happened to her.

She was a thing and then she wasn't.


As the years passed, she was forced to return to the mortal realm.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 05:00 PM (I/Qkd)

477 The best I can figure is that Bombadil is God or an avatar of God if God was a goofy, hippie dickweed who could end the whole story right now but who refuses to do so cuz he's got guacamole and sprout sandwiches on whole wheat to eat or some such thing.."

My favorite theory (oh I know people debunk it) is that Bombadil is actually the Vala Aule the Smith, who has gotten sick of doing the Valinor thing and is now slumming over in middle earth, saying "I'm on vacation, don't ask me for shit"

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 01, 2023 05:01 PM (i9ffA)

478 Rachel Ward:

'Fortress'.

Rachel Ward with a Mad Max style sawed off shotgun.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 05:01 PM (/BBNv)

479 427 #$@* I skip 20 comments and I miss the good stuff.
Who's sexy?
Posted by: Iris at September 01, 2023 04:52 PM (n3DL0)

=====

Orlando Bloom
Posted by: Jordan61

A girlfriend and I wrote some pretty steamy fanfic with him in it.....

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 01, 2023 05:01 PM (UlRld)

480 Rachel Ward was also in some lower budget 80s movie about some motorcycle-riding serial killer who decapitates people.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 05:01 PM (KRtlO)

481 O/T just learned the 71 year old store clerk beaten by a shoplifter Monday in my neighborhood passed away last night.

Blood on your hands, Genius Mayor London Breed.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 01, 2023 05:02 PM (RIvkX)

482 okay all good fun threads must come to an end.

Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 05:02 PM (KRtlO)

483 For those that have a Audible account you can use Musicfab to download your library in case they decide to edit books for content and you can save the originals

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 05:02 PM (dKiJG)

484 Bombadil is an anomaly the Eldar named Iarwain Ben-adar or Oldest and Fatherless. He is a fascinating creation IMHO.

Posted by: LOTR Freak at September 01, 2023 05:03 PM (9u+2h)

485 Katherine Zeta Jones was close in the first Zorro, but she did not age well.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 01, 2023 04:57 PM (I/Qkd)

Karma for giving Michael Douglas throat cancer?

(I kid, mostly).

Posted by: Thrawn at September 01, 2023 05:03 PM (uGhsv)

486 All I really want is a faithful movie adaptation of Gor.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 01, 2023 05:03 PM (xLon1)

487 okay all good fun threads must come to an end.
Posted by: ace at September 01, 2023 05:02 PM (KRtlO)

This really was fun, thanks, ace! I hope you have a stellar weekend!

Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 01, 2023 05:03 PM (6xRrr)

488 The second Raider film was a shit-show.

The third was great. C'mon man. Sean Connery.

The fourth was meh.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at September 01, 2023 05:03 PM (8fpTj)

489 473 I believe I remember Lucas saying The original Star Wars was based on ancient mythology. True or not I dont know but since they've run out of creative ideas you would think they could plumb the depths they're for new stories. This spit ball at a whiteboard method isn't working.
Posted by: Lancelot_Link'

He stole from the Japanese Samurai movie THE LAST FORTRESS
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 01, 2023 05:00 PM (dKiJG)

And The Dam Busters. The climactic trench scenes at the end of Star Wars were lifted from that WW2 movie.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 01, 2023 05:03 PM (/iWhV)

490 486 All I really want is a faithful movie adaptation of Gor.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 01, 2023 05:03 PM (xLon1)

Again, pornhub exists

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at September 01, 2023 05:04 PM (xcxpd)

491 >>Bullshit. Original Star Wars was based on every damn Samurai movie Lucas ever saw, with some Old West mixed in. He even copped to that in a few interviews.

Then ancient mythology is still available for a modern telling. Even early 20th century authors could be modernized. (not meaning made woke but set in current time frames). Endless supply of stories available and yet we get the same woke nonsense.

Posted by: Lancelot_Link at September 01, 2023 05:04 PM (Pzcsd)

492 All I really want is a faithful movie adaptation of Gor.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 01, 2023 05:03 PM (xLon1)

Lol. It would make billions.

Posted by: Thesokorus at September 01, 2023 05:04 PM (V8IO7)

493 The amazing thing about Episode 4 is that, even now, it looks a fresh as it did close to 50 (!!) years ago. The CGI in Episode 1 makes it look dated.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 01, 2023 04:57 PM (/iWhV)


Empire Strikes Back ? I sat through a pretty good class, for a general credit, at my over-rated four year Community College. Old dude teaching it taught Empire, as an example of the Frank Capra touch. Also taught Rocky for the same.

Posted by: I Was There at September 01, 2023 05:04 PM (awKPx)

494 486 All I really want is a faithful movie adaptation of Gor.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken '

Yep, Thread End!

Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 05:04 PM (/BBNv)

495 Some friends who were real LOTR nuts opined that Bombadil was a spirit of his sector of Middle Earth. They point out that Treebeard is said to be the oldest "living thing", so Tom can't be a living thing.

I've read it several times - all of it. But not all that much. I'm more a Lewis guy.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 01, 2023 05:04 PM (brAQZ)

496 Sharky's Machine is a CRIMINALLY underrated movie.
Posted by: LenNeal at September 01, 2023 04:58 PM (/BBNv)
-------------
It was on HBO or Showtime a lot in yesteryear. Watched it a lot. Had to look up in a dictionary what the word expediency meant (after daydreaming about Rachel Ward of course).

Posted by: scampydog at September 01, 2023 05:04 PM (2bFN5)

497 >>> 479 427 #$@* I skip 20 comments and I miss the good stuff.
Who's sexy?
Posted by: Iris at September 01, 2023 04:52 PM (n3DL0)

=====

Orlando Bloom
Posted by: Jordan61

A girlfriend and I wrote some pretty steamy fanfic with him in it.....
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at September 01, 2023 05:01 PM (UlRld)

The 'Rons now want this to be published, so they can talk about it on the Book Thread.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 01, 2023 05:05 PM (llON8)

498 Nobody nooded.

Nood.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 01, 2023 05:08 PM (brAQZ)

499
492 All I really want is a faithful movie adaptation of Gor.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 01, 2023 05:03 PM (xLon1)

Lol. It would make billions.
Posted by: Thesokorus at September 01, 2023 05:04 PM (V8IO7)

——-

Maybe it will doable with AI in a few years.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at September 01, 2023 05:09 PM (xLon1)

500 Orlando Bloom
Posted by: Jordan61

He was good in Carnival Row, which is another good streaming series.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 01, 2023 05:10 PM (BdMk6)

501 Getting hard to remember all older actresses I have looked up to see them today or recently. Think Rachel Ward isn't aging well but need to see for sure

Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2023 05:11 PM (MOY79)

502 Watching TV is supposed to be fun and easy. Who wants to pay $2K a year for several channels and figure out every evening which of your four remotes you should use and where the hell that one show is that you kind of liked. And to find something that isn't 40 years old or full of F-bombs (cuz they're hip now) or PC lectures, like the rom-coms on Amazon.

I just dropped them and got Criterion for $99/year. No muss, no fuss, just movies and interviews.

Posted by: PJ at September 01, 2023 03:52 PM (G1dq6)

I've been saying that for years. There's a fixed pool of money a household will pay for entertainment that isn't that large - right now its eaten up by cable and maybe Netflix, but best case households will have a basic cable/internet package and a modest monthly fee paying out in a month, and the less nonsense you have to do the better. But it will never be large enough to fund the sort of massive outlay the studios expect with these lavish wasteful productions.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2023 05:12 PM (eoQWY)

503 50q yeah, sadly fading

Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2023 05:13 PM (MOY79)

504 Bombadil is an anomaly the Eldar named Iarwain Ben-adar or Oldest and Fatherless. He is a fascinating creation IMHO.
Posted by: LOTR Freak at September 01, 2023 05:03 PM (9u+2h)

There is no answer because JRRT didn't make one. Its an interesting commentary on that even Middle Earth isn't 100 percent obsessed with the Ring and Sauron. Similarly the Wizards who went to the East and vanished. What was their mission? What is going on in that part of the world? Not part of the story, or any story.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2023 05:17 PM (eoQWY)

505 Tom was a partial manifestation of Eru, just checking in on his creations in Middle Earth, but not interfering. Notice how everything is sing song. A silly version of the Music of the Ainur. And the ring has no power over him. It is as if the ring is nothing.

As for streaming content, I cannot recommend THE BEAR on hulu enough. It is some of the best writing directing and acting I have seen in a very long time. Just take your blood pressure medication. The first season keeps the energy high with very little down time. The second season wanders a bit at the beginning as it follows some of the minor characters. However, there is a double episode Christmas dinner special which is a tour de force. Jamie Lee shows up out of nowhere and just blew me away. Amazing. And pretty much every episode from there to the end is just great. I am half hoping they do not make a season three, because they might screw up a perfect show.

Posted by: tommylotto at September 01, 2023 06:26 PM (6QQM8)

506 I can't think of a program I have watched on network tv since the strain. Most of it is mindless reboots or worse. Comedy doesn't exist and late night is a vast wasteland of the idiotic and mindless.

I won't comment on the news and cable is worse. Fox has gone the same way and I don't trust their news.

Posted by: Jane at September 01, 2023 07:11 PM (EcD5Y)

507 Disney may claim 14 million viewers now, but when it is time to pay the actors then they will resort to 1.2 million viewers or even less. This is not just dishonesty by Kathleen Kennedy, this is fraud.
Expect many more shareholder suits against Disney and its self immolation for the sake pleasing the lesbians on staff.

Posted by: william ferrin at September 01, 2023 08:37 PM (G02CW)

508 The thing is, in Clone Wars, Ashoka was a really well done character. And given how poor the latest Disney stuff has been, I honestly don't have a lot of interest in seeing how they ruin her.

Posted by: Voyager at September 01, 2023 08:50 PM (zwfNS)

509 Get Woke - Go Broke

R.I.P. Disney

Posted by: Ozzonelayyer at September 02, 2023 02:13 AM (NTLjP)

510 Last movie I saw in the 'theatre' was John Wick 4 and it was 4 hours of absolute insanely American greatness.

Posted by: Danimal28 at September 02, 2023 10:07 AM (ryUqI)

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