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Rumors Swirl About Murders of Wagner Group Founders and Top Staff; Wagner Group Members Vow Vengeace

The plane was fine -- until it plummeted straight down, nose perpendicular to the ground.

You know, like you see in cases of routine mechanical problems.


Wagner mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin's doomed private plane showed no signs of distress until a sudden drop 30 seconds before the deadly crash in Russia -- amid speculation that the rogue warlord's plane may have been downed by a bomb hidden in a crate of wine.

The Embraer Legacy 600 executive jet, with Prigozhin and other senior Wagner Group members listed among the 10 passengers, showed "no indication that there was anything wrong" earlier in the flight Wednesday, according to Ian Petchenik of the flight-tracking site Flightradar24.

It then made a "sudden downward vertical" at 5:19 p.m. local time -- and within about 30 seconds, plummeted more than 8,000 feet from its cruising altitude of 28,000 feet.

"Whatever happened, happened quickly," Petchenik said. "They may have been wrestling [with the aircraft] after whatever happened.

Video showed the plane plummeting with its nose pointing almost straight downward and a plume of smoke or vapor trailing behind it.

The Ebrarer jet type in question has had only one crash in 20 years.

One of the theories spreading on Russian social media sites is that a bomb had been planted onboard Prigozhin's plane, possibly concealed inside a crate of wine, reported the Telegram channel VChK-OGPU, which is linked to Russian security services.

"Supposedly someone testified that at the very last moment, a certain gift consisting of a crate of expensive wine was loaded unto the plane," wrote VChK-OGPU. "And now they are looking into claims that the crate may have contained a bomb."

The plane had been carefully searched with sniffer dogs before the wine crate had been loaded, added the Telegram channel.

The plane wasn't just carrying Ygevney Prigozhin. It was also carrying the other co-founder of the group and other high-ranking members of Wagner. Zero Hedge calls it "the entire top command."


The co-founder of the group, Dmitri Utkin, looks like he literally just walked out of the movie Die Hard 2: Die Harder.

dmitriutkin.jpg


It wasn't just mercenaries who were murdered. The pilots were also killed, as well as Kristian Raspopova, the stewardress:

innocentvictim.jpg


Zero Hedge has more:


At this point it's looking like the entire top command of Russian mercenary outfit Wagner Group was aboard the private plane that was downed northwest of Moscow hours ago. Wagner itself is confirming Yvgeny Prigozhin's death, with Wagner-affiliated Telegram channel Grey Zone calling it a "murder".

"The murder/assassination of Prigozhin will have catastrophic consequences. The people who gave the order do not understand the mood in the army and morale at all. Let this be a lesson to all. You always have to go to the end," the Wagner channel statement reads.

True.

But the rumors are that Putin rounded up the family members of these guys and was threatening to torture and kill them unless they suspended the march on Moscow. I'm not sure what you do in that situation. It depends on whose lives you value more, yours or your family members.

The Finaincial Times reports rumors that the plane was taken down by an anti-aircraft missile.


Wagner fighters are claiming they'll march on Moscow again.


Purported members of the Russian Wagner mercenary group released chilling videos threatening revenge -- and a new "March of Justice" on Moscow -- after their leader, Yevgeny Prigozhin, reportedly died in a fiery jet crash.

A Telegram channel associated with Prigozhin's private army released a short clip showing a trio of masked men dressed in camouflage and body armor making vague threats of retaliation.

"There are many discussions about what Wagner would do now," one of the supposed mercenaries says in the 8-second video. "We'll say one thing -- we're already starting off. Expect us."

...

"Today we saw how the little Kremlin filth wiped out Yevgeny Viktorovich," the masked fighter says in an altered voice, apparently referring to Russia's leader.

He then goes on to issue a sinister "order" to all Wagner units to retrieve their "buried" assault rifles, machine guns and grenades, presumably in preparation for an unspecified retaliatory act.

"All of us who have fought all these years are seeing that this devil has played long enough," the mercenary adds, again seemingly referencing Putin. "Await future orders, and victory will be ours. Glory to Russia!"


I'm afraid that ship has sailed, fellers. I'm not sure I can think of a case of an insurrection being reconstituted after its moment had passed.

You need to look to the Way of the Dagger and the Way of Poison now.

Killing Putin with polonium would be poetic justice.

Posted by: Ace at 05:28 PM




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Posted by: Chainsaw at August 24, 2023 05:28 PM (p7g/X)

2 >>Wagner Group Members Vow Vengeace

That's comedy gold right there.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 24, 2023 05:30 PM (KjeDC)

3 I believe everything and nothing theses days.

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at August 24, 2023 05:31 PM (J8OCH)

4 Gradually.
Suddenly.

Posted by: Montec at August 24, 2023 05:31 PM (O6hZK)

5 Yea, “stewardess” … sure. Come on, Ace. You don’t really believe this shit, do you? This isn’t a story. This is a plot from a never-made Rambo film. We are chasing the red dot like a cat.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 24, 2023 05:31 PM (K6Lc7)

6 That dude in the picture is frightening. That his natural look? Or has the photo been enhanced?

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 24, 2023 05:31 PM (tQL7r)

7 I have called the corgis.

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at August 24, 2023 05:32 PM (J8OCH)

8 You don't believe chartered planes have stewardesses now??n

Just to clear the hero Putin?!

Posted by: Ace at August 24, 2023 05:33 PM (KRtlO)

9 She's hot!*

Go Ukraine!

*serious: God rest her soul.

Posted by: Persimmon Potentate at August 24, 2023 05:33 PM (cmney)

10 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 05:33 PM (Zz0t1)

11 But...but....Wagner is armed to the teeth! You mean to say a despotic government is prying their guns from their cold dead hands, and getting away with it?!?!

Posted by: maybe we need F16's after all at August 24, 2023 05:33 PM (bCXxY)

12 Russia is a rough place.

But they shouldn't be killing hot stewardesses. Those things are rare as hen's teeth today.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 24, 2023 05:33 PM (xcxpd)

13 This has gotten very weird

Posted by: Ace at August 24, 2023 05:34 PM (KRtlO)

14 On the phone was the John Wick reply,
"He killed his dog."
After that I got nothin.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at August 24, 2023 05:34 PM (glGDV)

15 Kristian Raspopova, the stewardress

Damn. She was a loss.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 24, 2023 05:34 PM (ppBhU)

16 So hookers also serve drinks on Russian flights?

Posted by: Montec at August 24, 2023 05:34 PM (O6hZK)

17 OMG, they killed Uncle Fester!

You BASTARDS!!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at August 24, 2023 05:35 PM (N3zMI)

18 But the rumors are that Putin rounded up the family members of these guys and was threatening to torture and kill them unless they suspended the march on Moscow. I'm not sure what you do in that situation. It depends on whose lives you value more, yours or your family members.


In Mother Russia, your family tortures YOU!!!!


Wait......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 05:35 PM (Zz0t1)

19 Purported members of the Russian Wagner mercenary group released chilling videos threatening revenge -- and a new "March of Justice" on Moscow -- after their leader, Yevgeny Prigozhin, reportedly died in a fiery jet crash.

Uh, guys...
The perps can be found at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

If you need a map...

Happy Hunting

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 24, 2023 05:35 PM (p8A+W)

20 8 You don't believe chartered planes have stewardesses now??n

Just to clear the hero Putin?!
Posted by: Ace at August 24, 2023 05:33 PM (KRtlO)

There is a whole lot of squirrelly shit going on with anything relating to Ukraine and Russia. Both sides are crazy as a bag of rabid, in heat, syphilitic shithouse rats.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2023 05:35 PM (cmney)

21 As Homer Simpson famously said, in Russia all women are either a wow or a ewww.

Posted by: Montec at August 24, 2023 05:35 PM (O6hZK)

22 That plane flipped and flopped like a leaf while it fell.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 24, 2023 05:35 PM (O1z4v)

23 >>Damn. She was a loss.


So much talent, wasted.

Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2023 05:35 PM (mbhXm)

24 Prigozhin had evidence that would lead to the arrest and conviction of Hilary Clinton???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 24, 2023 05:35 PM (llON8)

25
So putting all your command structure on the same transportation vehicle seems like a rookie mistake

Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at August 24, 2023 05:35 PM (jRVVL)

26 I believe everything and nothing theses days.
Posted by: Gouverneur Morris


Theses? Whose theses you believe??

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 24, 2023 05:36 PM (tQL7r)

27 Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Posted by: Polonium at August 24, 2023 05:36 PM (63Dwl)

28 I'm afraid that ship has sailed, fellers. I'm not sure I can think of a case of an insurrection being reconstituted after its moment had passed.

You need to look to the Way of the Dagger and the Way of Poison now.

Killing Putin with polonium would be poetic justice.
Posted by: Ace at 05:28 PM

"You come at the king, you best not miss."
- Omar Little

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 24, 2023 05:36 PM (/iWhV)

29 If Ukraine did it, they are keeping their fucking mouths shut about it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 24, 2023 05:36 PM (O1z4v)

30 Dmitri Utkin sporting an SS tat on his right collarbone?

Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2023 05:36 PM (mbhXm)

31 That dude...... ZERO head hair.....bearskin rug on his chest.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 05:36 PM (Zz0t1)

32 Was Dmitri also a phrenologist?

Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 24, 2023 05:36 PM (bNf8H)

33 "But the rumors are that Putin rounded up the family members of these guys and was threatening to torture and kill them unless they suspended the march on Moscow. I'm not sure what you do in that situation. It depends on whose lives you value more, yours or your family members."

So...I guess we can eliminate Yevgeny Prigozhin as being Keyser Söze.

Posted by: JT Smith at August 24, 2023 05:37 PM (FxdZx)

34 Hey, the guitar at the beginning of that willowed link was pretty good, sponge.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2023 05:37 PM (cmney)

35 Russian anti aircraft missiles are deadly as heck. One of them I read about will target just ahead of the aircraft and explode with hundreds of lead shot that the aircraft then flies into. Goodby pilots.

Posted by: democrats everywhere at August 24, 2023 05:37 PM (MeG8a)

36 Not just anyone can afford a $30M (US) "executive jet."

But, a $250 bomb onboard would certainly ruin one's day if on it. Or a $1M AA missile.

Or a bunch of vodka soaked maintenance workers.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 24, 2023 05:37 PM (Q4IgG)

37 So putting all your command structure on the same transportation vehicle seems like a rookie mistake
Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA

Tell you what.

Posted by: SEAL Team Six at August 24, 2023 05:37 PM (kjOVp)

38 Dmitri Utkin sporting an SS tat on his right collarbone?
Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2023 05:36 PM (mbhXm)

Fucking copycat
- Ukrainian Military

Posted by: Montec at August 24, 2023 05:37 PM (O6hZK)

39 Dmitri Utkin photo caption:

Hallo. I Dmitri, your new neighbor.

Posted by: wth at August 24, 2023 05:37 PM (v0R5T)

40 Prigozhin had evidence that would lead to the arrest and conviction of Hilary Clinton???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket


That could explain a lot

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 24, 2023 05:37 PM (tQL7r)

41 Joe Biden blocks all of the roads out of town and burns all of it. Dark Brandon.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 24, 2023 05:37 PM (O1z4v)

42 I saw a couple of hours ago that US Intel says it was a Missile not a wine bomb.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 24, 2023 05:37 PM (tRWwW)

43
So much talent, wasted.
Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2023 05:35 PM (mbhXm)



To be fair, we don't know what she did while alive.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 05:38 PM (Zz0t1)

44 Dmitri looks like the guy who delivers your New Russian Bride.

Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2023 05:38 PM (mbhXm)

45
I would like to point out that fuzzy, little bunnies were peacefully eating lettuce leaves when thisterriblee tragedy happened,
and had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 24, 2023 05:38 PM (QzZeQ)

46 Looks like John Malkovich in "Red 2".

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 24, 2023 05:38 PM (kjOVp)

47 Hey, the guitar at the beginning of that willowed link was pretty good, sponge.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2023 05:37 PM (cmney)



Thanks!

I was afraid it was too willowed.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 05:38 PM (Zz0t1)

48 Dmitri Utkin sporting an SS tat on his right collarbone?

Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2023 05:36 PM (mbhXm)

He has a few Nazi tattoos. You can see the eagle right below the SS.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 24, 2023 05:38 PM (xPl2J)

49 Nobody really loves Putin, at least in Russia; not enough to put their lives on the line for him. The most he can do is buy support.
So it depends on how determined these mercenaries are to get revenge.

Posted by: PG at August 24, 2023 05:38 PM (84jHt)

50 Off democrat sock...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 24, 2023 05:39 PM (MeG8a)

51 Dimitri looks like Vinnie Jones crossed with Christopher Lloyd playing Uncle Fester.

Posted by: ace at August 24, 2023 05:39 PM (KRtlO)

52 49 Nobody really loves Putin, at least in Russia; not enough to put their lives on the line for him. The most he can do is buy support.
So it depends on how determined these mercenaries are to get revenge.
Posted by: PG at August 24, 2023 05:38 PM (84jHt)

Well that's not true

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 24, 2023 05:39 PM (xcxpd)

53 CIA, Niger, Victoria Nuland.

Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2023 05:39 PM (Sv58p)

54 Russian anti aircraft missiles are deadly as heck. One of them I read about will target just ahead of the aircraft and explode with hundreds of lead shot that the aircraft then flies into. Goodby pilots.

Literally missile launched flak. I'm surprised more countries don't do it. It's a typically effective Russian solution.

Posted by: Enjoy the Show at August 24, 2023 05:39 PM (CcBpl)

55 Rumors Swirl About Murders of Wagner Group Founders and Top Staff; Wagner Group Members Vow Vengeace

cue "ride of the valkyries"

Posted by: anachronda at August 24, 2023 05:39 PM (v3pYe)

56 >But...but....Wagner is armed to the teeth! You mean to say a despotic government is prying their guns from their cold dead hands, and getting away with it?!?!
Posted by: maybe we need F16's after all at August 24, 2023 05:33 PM (bCXxY)

Well, they were nominally on the same side before, but that perhaps has been completely tossed out the window now. Could be more interesting times in store. Or not.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at August 24, 2023 05:39 PM (S7JkI)

57 Man, I hope to live long enough for the movie to come out about all of the twists and turns in this whole nonsense over in Ukraine... make mission impossible look probable.

Unfortunately, the movie will be so bad I'll have to watch the history channel in Heaven to finally figure it out.

And that stewardess is a loss, for sure.

Posted by: GanGanowicz at August 24, 2023 05:39 PM (AxRGS)

58 Sounds like Putin has got some more killing to do… be assured he is up to the job…

Posted by: tubal at August 24, 2023 05:40 PM (PCK5/)

59 51 Dimitri looks like Vinnie Jones crossed with Christopher Lloyd playing Uncle Fester.

Posted by: ace at August 24, 2023 05:39 PM (KRtlO)

OMG, yes! That's a perfect description.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 24, 2023 05:40 PM (/iWhV)

60 Theses? Whose theses you believe??


Lol, that's my one typo per month I am allowed.

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at August 24, 2023 05:40 PM (J8OCH)

61 This is a very strange incident.

If Putin wanted to take out the Wagner leadership, he could have simply arrested them as they got off the plane in St. Petersburg.

Maybe Putin was trying to send a message by shooting down/bombing the plane, but the problem with that theory is the same problem with all the claims of Russian "false flag" attacks on Russian targets - a great deal of Putin's legitimacy comes from the fact that he restored order after the chaos of the Yeltsin years, and destroying planes flying from Moscow to St. Petersburg does not help the perception of order.

Putin also issued a very even-handed statement noting that although Prigozhin was a flawed individual, he had generally been working for the benefit of Russia.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 24, 2023 05:40 PM (u6/wt)

62 "Whatever happened, happened quickly," Petchenik said. "They may have been wrestling after whatever happened.

i have an alibi

Posted by: hulk hogan at August 24, 2023 05:40 PM (v3pYe)

63 >>>o it depends on how determined these mercenaries are to get revenge.

i mean, the chance to do it through the sword has passed. Do they have any ability to assassinate him? Probably not. They'd need a lot of inside info to do that and I'm sure that anyone who would have been willing to tell them where Putin will be at a certain time are no longer willing to take that chance.

Posted by: ace at August 24, 2023 05:40 PM (KRtlO)

64 The loss of the pretty stewardess is so unfortunate

that's my takeaway from the story

Posted by: Larry Braverman at August 24, 2023 05:40 PM (UPJjy)

65 He has a few Nazi tattoos. You can see the eagle right below the SS.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 24, 2023 05:38 PM (xPl2J)


Wondered how long it would take for anyone else to notice.

Posted by: Enjoy the Show at August 24, 2023 05:40 PM (CcBpl)

66
Russia actually has female stewardesses that are hot and not male 'stewards' that are gay as hell? Tough choice - not. I'm thinking the stewardess got the raw end of the stick.

If they'll kill her they'll kill 200 million of us without blinking an eye. FAFO.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 24, 2023 05:41 PM (enJYY)

67 Dmitri looks like the guy who delivers your New Russian Bride.
Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2023 05:38 PM (mbhXm)



After leaving her weepy, spent and dripping......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 05:41 PM (Zz0t1)

68 Utkin.

Who says Ace never posts beefcake for the ladies?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 24, 2023 05:41 PM (ppBhU)

69 "From Russia With Love"

Director's Cut with Fascinating New Plot Twist!

And yeah. Whoever thought it was a good idea to let the whole of the Wagner Leadership fly on the same plane, together? Was in on the plot.

A Power Consortium like that needs to follow common security protocol. The Pres and V.P. never fly together on AF-1 or such. And they don't load up the whole Cabinet on the same plane, either.

And especially anywhere over or in range of Russian Airspace! Flight's call sign may as well have been "Death Wish One", and had been believable, if so.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 24, 2023 05:41 PM (e6UQI)

70 "Rumors Swirl About Plane Full of Important Putin Adversaries that Was Blown Out of the Fucking Sky."

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at August 24, 2023 05:41 PM (Xa1Vr)

71 The Dmitri Utkin photo.. if someone doesn't use that in a bogus Tinder account, it will be a lost opportunity for great hilarity.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 24, 2023 05:41 PM (p8A+W)

72 >I saw a couple of hours ago that US Intel says it was a Missile not a wine bomb.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 24, 2023 05:37 PM (tRWwW)

So it was a hidden bomb.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at August 24, 2023 05:41 PM (S7JkI)

73 There is a whole lot of squirrelly shit going on with anything relating to Ukraine and Russia. Both sides are crazy as a bag of rabid, in heat, syphilitic shithouse rats.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2023 05:35 PM (cmney)

This time they killed both moose and squirrel.

Posted by: Roy at August 24, 2023 05:41 PM (rqgpJ)

74 63 >>>o it depends on how determined these mercenaries are to get revenge.

i mean, the chance to do it through the sword has passed. Do they have any ability to assassinate him? Probably not. They'd need a lot of inside info to do that and I'm sure that anyone who would have been willing to tell them where Putin will be at a certain time are no longer willing to take that chance.
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2023 05:40 PM (KRtlO)

They would be better served to shut the hell up…

Posted by: tubal at August 24, 2023 05:41 PM (PCK5/)

75 48 Dmitri Utkin sporting an SS tat on his right collarbone?

Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2023 05:36 PM (mbhXm)

He has a few Nazi tattoos. You can see the eagle right below the SS.
Posted by: Mark1971 at August 24, 2023 05:38 PM (xPl2J)

So, a Russian wearing Nazi tats, after what Hitler did to Russia in WWII.

Huh.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 24, 2023 05:42 PM (/iWhV)

76 >>He has a few Nazi tattoos. You can see the eagle right below the SS.


And he was lost along with the rest of Wagner's Leadership?


That's a shame.

Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2023 05:42 PM (mbhXm)

77 Wine bomb? Somebody has a sense of humor (either whoever planted the bomb, or whoever made the story up for the media to spread).

That was the same exact plot that failed to kill Hitler, way back when. An Abwehr plotter convinced some General to carry the booze back for a friend. British made pencil detonator failed to kick off. No bang.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 24, 2023 05:42 PM (0FoWg)

78 Also, Utkin named the Wagner Group after the Nazi's favorite composer.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 24, 2023 05:42 PM (xPl2J)

79 Damn. If he'd lived, he could learn to take better selfies.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 24, 2023 05:42 PM (OX9vb)

80 Kristian Raspopova, the stewardress
......

I think she's winking at me.

Posted by: wth at August 24, 2023 05:42 PM (v0R5T)

81 >>>48 Dmitri Utkin sporting an SS tat on his right collarbone?

>>>He has a few Nazi tattoos. You can see the eagle right below the SS.

Jimmy Dore's fill-in guest host was saying the Wagner group is named after Richard Wagner, Hitler's favorite composer, and that that connection is intended.

Posted by: ace at August 24, 2023 05:42 PM (KRtlO)

82 CIA, Niger, Victoria Nuland.
Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2023 05:39 PM (Sv58p)



Incorrect.....

Posted by: Clue! at August 24, 2023 05:42 PM (Zz0t1)

83 All the more reason we should stay out of it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 24, 2023 05:42 PM (u73oe)

84 I always get bombed on expensive wine. Hic!

Posted by: Hillary at August 24, 2023 05:42 PM (rqgpJ)

85 It's only been 24 ish hours and already the narrative has changed from SA300s to a bomb in a last minute cargo addition.

Why were these guys going to Moscow? Why would the top dogs travel together? Lots of questions that no one is asking.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 24, 2023 05:43 PM (YRsIm)

86 After leaving her weepy, spent and dripping......

Is part of satisfaction guarantee. Ensuring of no defects.

No returns.

Posted by: zombie utkin explaing prima nocta warranty at August 24, 2023 05:43 PM (ppBhU)

87 "We'll say one thing -- we're already starting off. Expect us."

when you least expect it, expect it!

Posted by: arnold horshack, wagner spokesman at August 24, 2023 05:43 PM (v3pYe)

88 That was the same exact plot that failed to kill Hitler, way back when. An Abwehr plotter convinced some General to carry the booze back for a friend. British made pencil detonator failed to kick off. No bang.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 24, 2023 05:42 PM (0FoWg)


This is only surprising for those that have never owned a vintage British car with Lucas electronics.

Posted by: Enjoy the Show at August 24, 2023 05:43 PM (CcBpl)

89 ......

I think she's winking at me.
Posted by: wth at August 24, 2023 05:42 PM (v0R5T)



You asked for it........


https://youtu.be/lOkA59YEaGI

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 05:43 PM (Zz0t1)

90 >>>And yeah. Whoever thought it was a good idea to let the whole of the Wagner Leadership fly on the same plane, together? Was in on the plot.

so you're saying the guy who called at the last minute to say "I can't make it fellas, you go on ahead without me" is the guy?

Posted by: ace at August 24, 2023 05:44 PM (KRtlO)

91 "Await future orders, and victory will be ours. Glory to Russia!"
.......

said Boris to Natasha.

Posted by: wth at August 24, 2023 05:44 PM (v0R5T)

92 Maybe Putin was trying to send a message by shooting down/bombing the plane,

Yeah, just like "Putin" blew up Nordstream pipelines.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 24, 2023 05:44 PM (p8A+W)

93 >>He has a few Nazi tattoos. You can see the eagle right below the SS.

But they're Illinois Nazi tattoos.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 24, 2023 05:44 PM (bNf8H)

94 >>>when you least expect it, expect it!

is that from Welcome Back Kotter (as your nickname suggests)?

I remember that.

Posted by: ace at August 24, 2023 05:45 PM (KRtlO)

95 Embraer. Pretty plane.

Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 05:45 PM (MvF+J)

96 Oh, BTW, a senior Russian official has stated that a major Ukrainian armored attack is occurring out of the village that the Ukrainians just took.

We shall see.

Mud season in Ukraine is about six weeks from now, so if the Ukes want to do anything before winter, time is quite limited.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 24, 2023 05:45 PM (u6/wt)

97
The loss of the pretty stewardess is so unfortunate

that's my takeaway from the story
Posted by: Larry Braverman


She might have been meaner than all the Wagnerites together.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 24, 2023 05:45 PM (63Dwl)

98 The loss of the pretty stewardess is so unfortunate

that's my takeaway from the story
Posted by: Larry Braverman at August 24, 2023 05:40 PM (UPJjy)


Pretty much.

If this was American Airlines, the stewardess would've been 30 years older and weighed 50 pounds more. Or, been some gay guy.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 24, 2023 05:46 PM (QzZeQ)

99 That was the same exact plot that failed to kill Hitler, way back when.

****************

Regarding another plot to kill Hitler, the bomb literally went off next to him. The fact that it didn't kill him was why a lot of Germans believed he was a deity

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 24, 2023 05:46 PM (VTu1l)

100 Have bodies been recovered and identified?

It's all a scam. Nothing is real. Bullshit bullshit bullshit

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at August 24, 2023 05:46 PM (csvZG)

101 I view all of this with a strong sense of abstraction… like a mildly entertaining action novel being read to kill time…

Posted by: tubal at August 24, 2023 05:46 PM (PCK5/)

102 Kristian Raspopova, the stewardress.


I'll tell ya what, if she asked me to pop ova' I definitely would!

Posted by: InZona at August 24, 2023 05:46 PM (0pKTq)

103 If this was American Airlines, the stewardess would've been 30 years older and weighed 50 pounds more. Or, been some gay guy.

***********

Or all three

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 24, 2023 05:46 PM (VTu1l)

104 But did the crate of wine survive?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 24, 2023 05:46 PM (VEm33)

105 95 Embraer. Pretty plane.
Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 05:45 PM (MvF+J)

Embraer >>>> Bombardier

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at August 24, 2023 05:46 PM (N3zMI)

106 Sorry, too soon?

Posted by: InZona at August 24, 2023 05:46 PM (0pKTq)

107 Raspopova is eyeballing me!

Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 05:46 PM (MvF+J)

108 If this was American Airlines, the stewardess would've been 30 years older and weighed 50 pounds more. Or, been some gay guy.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 24, 2023 05:46 PM (QzZeQ)

Embrace the power of AND

Posted by: Roy at August 24, 2023 05:46 PM (rqgpJ)

109 Same here tubal.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 24, 2023 05:47 PM (kjOVp)

110 The US killed Prigozhin.
Putin has angry lunatics running around Russia and in the military.
Why is Wagner in Belarus? Protect Belarus or close to Poland and infiltration by US?
Are Putin and the US eliminating Wagner?
With Wagner toast, Africa opens up to the WEF.
The BRICS are not batshit crazy bolsheviks like we have here.
Are they cooperating with WEF in creating the late stage capitalism expecting that the commies will not survive?
The war has never made sense to me except as a cover story.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 24, 2023 05:47 PM (Eeb9P)

111
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Putin, Prigozhin and Zelensky are playing poker and yukking it up over beers in a back room somewhere.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 24, 2023 05:47 PM (MoZTd)

112 Yes, chartered planes have pretty stewardesses, if you flew something besides Spirit you'd know that.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 24, 2023 05:47 PM (nnp+f)

113
It's all a scam. Nothing is real. Bullshit bullshit bullshit
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at August 24, 2023 05:46 PM (csvZG)



Are you suggesting that news coming out of Russia about something, anything, is not ACCURATE!!!?????


The HELLS you say.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 05:47 PM (Zz0t1)

114 >>Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at August 24, 2023 05:46 PM (csvZG)


You are too young to be so cynical.

Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2023 05:47 PM (mbhXm)

115 > Russian anti aircraft missiles are deadly as heck. One of them I read about will target just ahead of the aircraft and explode with hundreds of lead shot that the aircraft then flies into. Goodby pilots.
___________

Most AA missiles are designed this way, not "just" Russian ones. It's near impossible to physically hit another jet traveling at, say 800MPH with a missile traveling at 2000MPH.

And, BTW the majority of AA missiles are "shoot, burn, coast" which means they reach their terminal velocity quickly and then "coast" (at very high speeds) to the intended target using some flavor of radar (active or homing) or IR. Coasting implies they slow down, and they do... thus it's possible to "outrun" one if the pilot targeted knows his shit.

Chances of an air-to-air kill, even on an unarmed, and unassuming civilian jet are not 100%. Neither are surface launched AA missiles (SAM's).

Your air combat and evasions commentary for today....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 24, 2023 05:47 PM (Q4IgG)

116 ..so you're saying the guy who called at the last minute to say "I can't make it fellas, you go on ahead without me" is the guy? Posted by: ace at August 24, 2023 05:44 PM (KRtlO)


Check the Roster, and see if Staffenbergovich missed the flight?


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 24, 2023 05:47 PM (e6UQI)

117 I could disappoint the stewardess like she'd never imagine.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 05:48 PM (Zz0t1)

118 Robert Wagner's dead???

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 24, 2023 05:48 PM (flINI)

119 And yeah. Whoever thought it was a good idea to let the whole of the Wagner Leadership fly on the same plane, together? Was in on the plot.

Making an announcement that you're marching a column away from a combat zone, directly to the capital, to execute a coup is not a great play either. That's not how it's done. You need surprise.

Look, I have no doubt these Wagner folks in charge were rough ol' boys. I also have no doubt they were pretty damn stupid. Surprisingly stupid, for as far as they got.

Putin probably baited them into getting on one airplane. Because it takes a fair amount of dumb ego to say shit like "We're marching from the Ukraine to take over Moscow".

Posted by: Enjoy the Show at August 24, 2023 05:48 PM (CcBpl)

120 Philippine flight hostesses doing it right:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoTK0k85Qro

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 24, 2023 05:48 PM (VTu1l)

121 >>Chances of an air-to-air kill, even on an unarmed, and unassuming civilian jet are not 100%. Neither are surface launched AA missiles (SAM's).


So you are saying this was the work of the Ghost of Endor?

Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2023 05:48 PM (mbhXm)

122
Check the Roster, and see if Staffenbergovich missed the flight?


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 24, 2023 05:47 PM (e6UQI)



I was in DC.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at August 24, 2023 05:48 PM (Zz0t1)

123 Bongino brought up an interesting factoid.
The Wagner guy successfully faked his own death in 2019.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 24, 2023 05:48 PM (MeG8a)

124 "We'll say one thing -- we're already starting off. Expect us."

when you least expect it, expect it!
Posted by: arnold horshack, wagner spokesman at August 24, 2023 05:43 PM (v3pYe)


Wish someone would expect us....

Posted by: The Spanish Inquisition at August 24, 2023 05:49 PM (m9hmt)

125 Mud season in Ukraine is about six weeks from now, so if the Ukes want to do anything before winter, time is quite limited.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 24, 2023 05:45 PM (u6/wt)

Almost all of the Ukrainian YouTubers proclaiming the glorious Summer offensive have mysteriously disappeared from my feed. Occasionally, one will pop up about a successful attack and capture of a strategic outhouse.

Posted by: Beartooth at August 24, 2023 05:49 PM (c2Nru)

126 Since Prigozhin's latest body double died in the crash, see if Jonathan Banks wants the job. There's some resemblance.

Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 05:49 PM (MvF+J)

127 Hold on, we should probably sent the Ukraine 20 or 30 billion more. Just in case.

- The Military Industrial Complex

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 24, 2023 05:49 PM (tRWwW)

128 >Kristian Raspopova, the stewardress.

If I know Russian, and I don't, her name is pronounced with the emphasis on POP

Posted by: Larry Braverman at August 24, 2023 05:49 PM (UPJjy)

129 123 Bongino brought up an interesting factoid.
The Wagner guy successfully faked his own death in 2019.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 24, 2023 05:48 PM (MeG8a)

Just like Dean Keaton?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 24, 2023 05:49 PM (xcxpd)

130
I saw a couple of hours ago that US Intel says it was a Missile not a wine bomb.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 24, 2023 05:37 PM (tRWwW)

So it was a hidden bomb.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at August 24, 2023 05:41 PM (S7JkI)



No kidding. This is the same US Intel community who got everything right in Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq, Ashcanistan...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 24, 2023 05:49 PM (n+4am)

131 That dude in the picture is frightening. That his natural look? Or has the photo been enhanced?
Posted by: Prime Sister

I wonder how many people saw that face in the last seconds before their own death. Like staring in to hell itself.

Posted by: Cheri at August 24, 2023 05:49 PM (oiNtH)

132 Wet out thar.

But it has stopped raining.

Posted by: JT at August 24, 2023 05:49 PM (T4tVD)

133 >>> Philippine flight hostesses doing it right:

nice.

Posted by: ace at August 24, 2023 05:50 PM (KRtlO)

134 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 24, 2023 05:50 PM (T4tVD)

135 ITS ALL BULLSHIT

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at August 24, 2023 05:50 PM (csvZG)

136
The Dmitri Utkin photo.. if someone doesn't use that in a bogus Tinder account, it will be a lost opportunity for great hilarity.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 24, 2023 05:41 PM


Facebook, too. For some reason the scammers love to pretend to be someone of a different nationality while actually being the picture of a actual Russian.

But then Facebook is a genourmous pile of shit targeted at the stupid.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 24, 2023 05:50 PM (enJYY)

137 Regarding another plot to kill Hitler, the bomb literally went off next to him. The fact that it didn't kill him was why a lot of Germans believed he was a deity
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 24, 2023 05:46 PM (

Someone, by pure chance, moved the briefcase on the wrong side of the table upright. I think that was at the Wolfschanze. Hitler had a lot of luck. The Devil looks out for his own.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 24, 2023 05:50 PM (0FoWg)

138 70 Million votes.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 24, 2023 05:50 PM (nnp+f)

139 Stewardess was nice looking.
That plane was shot down

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2023 05:50 PM (MOY79)

140 What a waste. The flight attendant that is.

Posted by: Sphynx at August 24, 2023 05:50 PM (YP5IQ)

141 "Robert Wagner's dead?"

Karma is a Russian.

Posted by: Natalie Wood at August 24, 2023 05:50 PM (VEm33)

142 >Yes, chartered planes have pretty stewardesses, if you flew something besides Spirit you'd know that.
Posted by: Regular joe at August 24, 2023 05:47 PM (nnp+f)

Not all of us are Moo Moo, sorry.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at August 24, 2023 05:50 PM (S7JkI)

143 65 He has a few Nazi tattoos. You can see the eagle right below the SS.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 24, 2023 05:38 PM (xPl2J)

Wondered how long it would take for anyone else to notice.
Posted by: Enjoy the Show at August 24, 2023 05:40 PM (CcBpl)

Doesn't the Nazi stuff mean they really work for... Ukraine!!!!?!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2023 05:50 PM (cmney)

144 We've got a hand in it. Either shooting being involved in the tracking and logistics to shoot it down to prompt the backlash, or organizing the backlash.

We gots to get our war, yo.

Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at August 24, 2023 05:50 PM (g6ohO)

145 US Intelligence… I now view that as Oxymoronic…

Posted by: tubal at August 24, 2023 05:51 PM (PCK5/)

146 Wet out thar.

But it has stopped raining.
Posted by: JT at August 24, 2023 05:49 PM (T4tVD)



Must be nice.

*coughs up a cloud of dust*

Posted by: Hunter Biden at August 24, 2023 05:51 PM (Zz0t1)

147 Damn shame about the stewardess.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2023 05:51 PM (TZ75n)

148 "Whoever thought it was a good idea to let the whole of the Wagner Leadership fly on the same plane, together? Was in on the plot."

They'll probably be hiring some bomb-sniffing dogs in the future.

Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 05:51 PM (MvF+J)

149 SHIT!!!

Strike one.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 05:51 PM (Zz0t1)

150 My baby bunnies stayed dry as I overhang the plexiglass on my mini greenhouse they are nesting up against.

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2023 05:51 PM (MOY79)

151 142 >Yes, chartered planes have pretty stewardesses, if you flew something besides Spirit you'd know that.
Posted by: Regular joe at August 24, 2023 05:47 PM (nnp+f)

Not all of us are Moo Moo, sorry.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at August 24, 2023 05:50 PM (S7JkI)

jwest...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2023 05:51 PM (cmney)

152 If I was part of an attempted coup against Putin, I wouldn't be putting my name on any passenger list...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2023 05:51 PM (bs+z0)

153 >It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Putin, Prigozhin and Zelensky are playing poker and yukking it up over beers in a back room somewhere.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 24, 2023 05:47 PM (MoZTd)

That's the way it works in the US, so you're probably right.

I also don't believe that Putin is working against the WEF. He's just the 'heel' against the 'face' GAE.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at August 24, 2023 05:52 PM (S7JkI)

154 150 My baby bunnies stayed dry as I overhang the plexiglass on my mini greenhouse they are nesting up against.
Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2023 05:51 PM (MOY79)

I will raise rabbits. Marry a Fat American wife and she will cook them for me...
-Vasyli

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2023 05:53 PM (cmney)

155 That's what happens when you try and take out the Czar and fail

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2023 05:53 PM (MOY79)

156 Someone, by pure chance, moved the briefcase on the wrong side of the table upright. I think that was at the Wolfschanze. Hitler had a lot of luck. The Devil looks out for his own.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 24, 2023 05:50 PM (0FoWg)


That was Stauffenberg's attempt, so yeah, it would have been at Wolfschanze. The meeting that day was also in a different room than usual, one with a lot of windows, which diffused the bomb's blast wave.

But Stauffenberg had a second bomb, which he didn't use for some reason (thought arming it would have been too difficult, maybe? don't really know). Hitler did indeed have the devil's luck, as I've told my students on occasion.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 24, 2023 05:53 PM (m9hmt)

157 He then pointed the finger at the Russian President: "Not much happens in Russia that Putin’s not behind," Biden added.

-

Yeah, we did it.

Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at August 24, 2023 05:53 PM (g6ohO)

158 Tell about them rabbits, Skip!

Posted by: lenny at August 24, 2023 05:54 PM (ppBhU)

159 155 That's what happens when you try and take out the Czar and fail
Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2023 05:53 PM (MOY79)

I still suspect sleight of hand. I dunno. Everything with Ukraine from day one has screamed OP.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2023 05:54 PM (cmney)

160 >Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2023 05:51 PM (cmney)

I won't lie, that's what I typed first.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at August 24, 2023 05:55 PM (S7JkI)

161 I see nothing fishy here.

Posted by: TWA Flight 800 Investigator at August 24, 2023 05:55 PM (lX8VI)

162 For crying out loud, sponge

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at August 24, 2023 05:56 PM (gU5fc)

163 Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2023 05:51 PM (MOY79)

That's very nice of you, skip. I assume the mother is around so you're not having to feed their babies from an eye dropper and be their suppogate mother?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 24, 2023 05:56 PM (NpWq6)

164 What if Zelenski and the CIA are the ones that pulled this off. They have more to gain than Putin does.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 24, 2023 05:56 PM (BdMk6)

165 I see nothing fishy here.
Posted by: TWA Flight 800 Investigator at August 24, 2023 05:55 PM (lX8VI)



BLACK HOLE!!!!!

And not the anus.....

Posted by: Don LeMon at August 24, 2023 05:56 PM (Zz0t1)

166 Was the plane crashed by Putin to get revenge on Prigozhin or by the US to destabilize Russia?

My money's on Putin since it would be easier for him to do and he probably was betting that Wagner would just disintegrate if he took out its entire command, but the alternative wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 24, 2023 05:56 PM (j8BE5)

167 I thought I heard they only found 8 bodies and not 10 as was listed.

Posted by: Beartooth at August 24, 2023 05:56 PM (c2Nru)

168 161 I see nothing fishy here.
Posted by: TWA Flight 800 Investigator at August 24, 2023 05:55 PM (lX8VI)

Black holes, man...
-that Indonesia(?) flight

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2023 05:56 PM (cmney)

169 For crying out loud, sponge
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at August 24, 2023 05:56 PM (gU5fc)



It's a process......

Posted by: Don LeMon at August 24, 2023 05:56 PM (Zz0t1)

170 I checked pricing for a chartered flight to my company HQ out of curiosity:

$24,500

Pass

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 24, 2023 05:57 PM (VTu1l)

171 STRIKE TWO!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 05:57 PM (Zz0t1)

172 It would be cool if they killed Putin. Or he killed Zelensky. Or whatever. As long some fait accompli is made that stops our own wicked ruling class' evil plans for this conflict, I'm solid.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 24, 2023 05:57 PM (0FoWg)

173
Maybe the stewardess was flying the plane.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 24, 2023 05:57 PM (MoZTd)

174 @136: "For some reason the scammers love to pretend to be someone of a different nationality ..."

It's similar to spelling errors in Nigerian prince email scams. Smart people notice the incongruity and dismiss the scam without reply. Respondents are either oblivious, or better yet, drawn to the flame 'cause it tickles their curiosity in some inexplicable way.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 24, 2023 05:57 PM (k1Qly)

175 Meant feed "her" babies.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 24, 2023 05:57 PM (NpWq6)

176 *breaths*

*relax*

oooohhhhmmmmmmmmm...

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 05:58 PM (Zz0t1)

177 The number of Dems that wish this would happen to Trump is Large.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 24, 2023 05:58 PM (tRWwW)

178 173
Maybe the stewardess was flying the plane.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 24, 2023 05:57 PM (MoZTd)

Stryker...

Stryker...

Stryker!

*shrugs*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2023 05:58 PM (cmney)

179 I might be drinking.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 05:58 PM (Zz0t1)

180 69 And yeah. Whoever thought it was a good idea to let the whole of the Wagner Leadership fly on the same plane, together? Was in on the plot.

A Power Consortium like that needs to follow common security protocol. The Pres and V.P. never fly together on AF-1 or such. And they don't load up the whole Cabinet on the same plane, either.


wasn't it just a few years ago that the russians lost a big chunk of their top military leadership to a suspicious plane crash?

Posted by: anachronda at August 24, 2023 05:59 PM (v3pYe)

181 Stryker...

Stryker...

Stryker!

*shrugs*
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2023 05:58 PM (cmney)



What an asshole!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 05:59 PM (Zz0t1)

182 179 I might be drinking.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 05:58 PM (Zz0t1)

New rules.. Two beers a week....

Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2023 05:59 PM (bs+z0)

183 I usually see what I assume tis the mom but this week not at all. They are getting bigger by day so the mom must be coming around and feeding them.

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2023 05:59 PM (MOY79)

184 Aside from the fact that our Elites are up to their venal necks in graft and and villainy in Ukraine I could not care less what happens there…

Posted by: tubal at August 24, 2023 05:59 PM (PCK5/)

185 178 173
Maybe the stewardess was flying the plane.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 24, 2023 05:57 PM (MoZTd)

Stryker...

Stryker...

Stryker!

*shrugs*


looks like i picked the wrong day to stop tatooing nazi insignia all over myself

Posted by: utkin at August 24, 2023 05:59 PM (v3pYe)

186 t wouldn't surprise me one bit if Putin, Prigozhin and Zelensky are playing poker and yukking it up over beers in a back room somewhere.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 24, 2023 05:47 PM (MoZTd)
........

Minimum ante US $10 billion

Posted by: wth at August 24, 2023 05:59 PM (v0R5T)

187 The number of Dems that wish this would happen to Trump is Large.

************

81 million to be precise, which includes all the first time Biden voters like Mickey Mouse and Abraham Lincoln

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 24, 2023 05:59 PM (VTu1l)

188 The pilots were also killed, as well as Kristian Raspopova, the stewardress:

Woof.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 24, 2023 05:59 PM (guGkK)

189 Maybe the stewardess was flying the plane.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 24, 2023 05:57 PM (MoZTd)



Flip the switch
Flip the switch
Flip the switch

Posted by: Otto Pilot at August 24, 2023 05:59 PM (Zz0t1)

190 Oh, no! Anyway…

Posted by: Blutarski at August 24, 2023 06:00 PM (Fwuhb)

191 Why was a man who should have been in Belarus per the amnesty agreement ending the March on Moscow suddenly in Moscow and flying to another Russian city?

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at August 24, 2023 06:00 PM (VIQ1T)

192
New rules.. Two beers a week....
Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2023 05:59 PM (bs+z0)



Cases, maybe......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 06:00 PM (Zz0t1)

193 wasn't it just a few years ago that the russians lost a big chunk of their top military leadership to a suspicious plane crash?

*********

That was Poland I believe

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 24, 2023 06:00 PM (VTu1l)

194 183 I usually see what I assume tis the mom but this week not at all. They are getting bigger by day so the mom must be coming around and feeding them.

this is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: fat chinese only child in beijing mcdonalds at August 24, 2023 06:00 PM (v3pYe)

195 BTW when does the Biggest Show on Earth get started in Atlanta???

Posted by: tubal at August 24, 2023 06:00 PM (PCK5/)

196 Yikes.

Totally unrelated but Asa Akira > Asa Hutchinson. Just wanted to say that.

Posted by: That's all. at August 24, 2023 06:01 PM (fhX0j)

197 Strike three= dancing in jorts and a tie dye tshirt on a boat

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at August 24, 2023 06:01 PM (NPkX1)

198 I have checked in on them without touching any just to make sure they are not abandoned. Does seem a late litter too.

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2023 06:01 PM (MOY79)

199 Just like when we took out the entire leadership ofAl Queada or the Taliban all those times.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 24, 2023 06:02 PM (nnp+f)

200 Yikes.

Totally unrelated but Asa Akira > Asa Hutchinson. Just wanted to say that.
Posted by: That's all. at August 24, 2023 06:01 PM (fhX0j)



The first image I saw in an image search....... *gulp*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 06:02 PM (Zz0t1)

201 @192: "Cases, maybe......"

Pallets. Sometimes you need pallets.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 24, 2023 06:02 PM (k1Qly)

202 >>>And yeah. Whoever thought it was a good idea to let the whole of the Wagner Leadership fly on the same plane, together? Was in on the plot.

so you're saying the guy who called at the last minute to say "I can't make it fellas, you go on ahead without me" is the guy?
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2023 05:44 PM (KRtlO)

You mean the pilot who went on vacation and missed the flight, currently under questioning (according to Russian media, so who knows?).

Posted by: Methos at August 24, 2023 06:02 PM (Dnobf)

203 Speaking of, I heard an interesting point earlier.

Stacy Abrams never conceded.

Brian Kemp has to pretend elections are fine because if he doesn't it gives her a legal opening.

Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at August 24, 2023 06:02 PM (g6ohO)

204 Kristian Raspopova, the stewardess.

Would hit.

Posted by: An S-75 Dvina missile at August 24, 2023 06:02 PM (Xa1Vr)

205 198 I have checked in on them without touching any just to make sure they are not abandoned. Does seem a late litter too.
Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2023 06:01 PM (MOY79)

Are they meat rabbits, or pets?

Posted by: tubal at August 24, 2023 06:03 PM (PCK5/)

206
Minimum ante US $10 billion
Posted by: wth at August 24, 2023 05:59 PM (v0R5T)

__________

Pretty much. Playing with (White) House money.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 24, 2023 06:03 PM (MoZTd)

207 I believe everything and nothing theses days.

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at August 24, 2023 05:31 PM (J8OCH)

I'll entertain just about everything, and believe nothing.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 24, 2023 06:03 PM (Mzdiz)

208 A missile strike on the plane is much more likely than a bombed crate of wine, since Russian mouthpieces almost immediately claimed it was the wine crate/bomb.

And I should point out that though ZH is mostly conservative, they take a decidedly pro-Russian POV on any issues involving Putin.

Yeah, I mostly skip those ZH articles...

Posted by: The Jug Eared Fuck at August 24, 2023 06:03 PM (zHuJr)

209 "A Power Consortium like that needs to follow common security protocol. The Pres and V.P. never fly together on AF-1 or such. And they don't load up the whole Cabinet on the same plane, either."

That's why I think it's always been too risky to put the whole US Govt in one single room every year for the stupid SOTUs.

Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 06:03 PM (MvF+J)

210 Off, JEF sock.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 24, 2023 06:03 PM (zHuJr)

211
so you're saying the guy who called at the last minute to say "I can't make it fellas, you go on ahead without me" is the guy?
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2023 05:44 PM (KRtlO)



The unwitting replacement chef was substituted last minute.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 06:03 PM (Zz0t1)

212 The plane had been carefully searched with sniffer dogs before the wine crate had been loaded, added the Telegram channel.

————-

That two buck chuck is bad news, man.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 24, 2023 06:04 PM (u73oe)

213 195 7:30PM ET last I heard.

Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 06:04 PM (MvF+J)

214 Yes, chartered planes have pretty stewardesses, if you flew something besides Spirit you'd know that.
Posted by: Regular joe at August 24, 2023 05:47 PM (nnp+f)

Do people even watch movies any more?

Posted by: Tony Stark at August 24, 2023 06:04 PM (Dnobf)

215 I saw a couple of hours ago that US Intel says it was a Missile not a wine bomb.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

Wine Bomb > Wine Mom

Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 24, 2023 06:04 PM (lnEH2)

216 The first image I saw in an image search....... *gulp*
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 06:02 PM (Zz0t1)

Oh, right, yeah. All non-safe-search searches will be highly NSFW, for any of you who aren't complete degenerates and wouldn't already have known that.

Posted by: Still the ace degenerate at August 24, 2023 06:04 PM (fhX0j)

217 That's why I think it's always been too risky to put the whole US Govt in one single room every year for the stupid SOTUs.

Yeah, it would be terrible if something happened. Just terrible.

Posted by: lenny at August 24, 2023 06:04 PM (ppBhU)

218 Get off me, retard.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 24, 2023 06:05 PM (ppBhU)

219
so you're saying the guy who called at the last minute to say "I can't make it fellas, you go on ahead without me" is the guy?
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2023 05:44 PM (KRtlO)

_________

Can't you get me off? For old times sake?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 24, 2023 06:05 PM (MoZTd)

220 Has a connection been made between Trump and the downing of the plane?

Posted by: Weasel at August 24, 2023 06:05 PM (RG6z4)

221 What facial feature makes people "look" Russian? That woman looks Eastern European but I'm at a loss for WHY. Some ancient Tartar blood? But what is it?

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at August 24, 2023 06:05 PM (U8kCF)

222 "The plane had been carefully searched with sniffer dogs before the wine crate had been loaded"

Dogs are in on the op.

Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 06:05 PM (MvF+J)

223 What an asshole!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 24, 2023 05:59 PM (Zz0t1)

No. Don't. That's just what they'll be expecting us to do...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2023 06:06 PM (cmney)

224 Can't you get me off? For old times sake?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 24, 2023 06:05 PM (MoZTd)

I think ace and garrett are in a committed situationship so he probably won't.

Posted by: Ewok lovin at August 24, 2023 06:06 PM (fhX0j)

225 That's why I think it's always been too risky to put the whole US Govt in one single room every year for the stupid SOTUs.
Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 06:03 PM (MvF+J)

I have a dream.....

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 24, 2023 06:07 PM (BdMk6)

226 The first image I saw in an image search....... *gulp*
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

Oh, right, yeah. All non-safe-search searches will be highly NSFW, for any of you who aren't complete degenerates and wouldn't already have known that.
Posted by: Still the ace degenerate


I didn't have to click through to the image search to know what was going to be there, since the first hit for her name in the normal search went to pr0nhub.

I guess I'm a few percent short of complete degeneracy. I'll work on it, I promise.

Posted by: mikeski at August 24, 2023 06:07 PM (DgGvY)

227 Strike three= dancing in jorts and a tie dye tshirt on a boat
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at August 24, 2023 06:01 PM (NPkX1)

Heh. "Tie-Dye on the Highway" came up on my playlist. Robert Plant was better after he dropped an octave.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at August 24, 2023 06:07 PM (T/Lqj)

228 In other news, I have one more day of 100+. The heat wave is supposed to break on Saturday.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 24, 2023 06:08 PM (u73oe)

229 225 That's why I think it's always been too risky to put the whole US Govt in one single room every year for the stupid SOTUs.
Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 06:03 PM (MvF+J)

I have a dream.....
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 24, 2023 06:07 PM (BdMk6)

Ack ack !

Posted by: Mars attacks! Martians at August 24, 2023 06:08 PM (bs+z0)

230 I find it very nice, Skip, that you come and share the story about looking out for the welfare of bunnies in a thread about leaders from the Ukraine and Russia. It's a nice reminder-as are the cafe threads- that there are kind people around and interesting and lovely things in nature.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 24, 2023 06:08 PM (NpWq6)

231 "When you strike at the king..."

Posted by: red speck at August 24, 2023 06:09 PM (0Id0S)

232 "I saw a couple of hours ago that US Intel says it was a Missile not a wine bomb."

there were first hand reports of people hearing the air defense missiles before the blast ... apparently they are used to hearing those ... or maybe it was just rumor, idk.

Not a good plan to put top two guys on one plane, like Prez and VP protocols ... but Prigozhin is laying low if it was not him.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 24, 2023 06:09 PM (Cus5s)

233 The only active terrorist the US has successfully taken off the board was Iran's Soliemani. You could tell that was real, because Iran and the Dems were pissed off.

But that was accomplished by Trump, who sucks, or so I'm told repeatedly by people who should know better.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 24, 2023 06:09 PM (nnp+f)

234 That's why I think it's always been too risky to put the whole US Govt in one single room every year for the stupid SOTUs.
Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 06:03 PM (MvF+J)

Agreed. Need to put every federal worker in the building instead.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at August 24, 2023 06:09 PM (fKIdX)

235 That's why I think it's always been too risky to put the whole US Govt in one single room every year for the stupid SOTUs.
Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 06:03 PM (MvF+J)

They should encourage all of them to get on a Russian airplane together. A big Ilyushin or some such. Promise those pigs all the wine they can pour down their fat, greedy gullets during the flight.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 24, 2023 06:09 PM (0FoWg)

236 The plane went down because the pilots and crew all committed suicide with bedsheets.

Posted by: bradc at August 24, 2023 06:09 PM (ztOaw)

237 Which Wagner dude was doing the stewardess?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 24, 2023 06:09 PM (xTRSc)

238 "Well that's not true"
Few people in Russia are ideologically motivated or believe in Putin's cult of personality, unlike some American so-called "conservatives".
After living through the Soviet Union and the 90s, people have seen everything, but they respect power and strength.
The same people who pretend to love Putin to death today will claim to have been dissidents and to have sabotaged the war effort, but discreetly, you know, a minute after he is taken down.
The only place where Putin will be sincerely mourned will be in Syria, by Assad and his lackeys, and in some American so-called "conservative" circles.

Posted by: PG at August 24, 2023 06:10 PM (84jHt)

239 236 The plane went down because the pilots and crew all committed suicide with bedsheets.
Posted by: bradc at August 24, 2023 06:09 PM (ztOaw)

*golfclap*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2023 06:10 PM (cmney)

240 I find it very nice, Skip, that you come and share the story about looking out for the welfare of bunnies in a thread about leaders from the Ukraine and Russia. It's a nice reminder-as are the cafe threads- that there are kind people around and interesting and lovely things in nature.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 24, 2023 06:08 PM (NpWq6)

—————

Wait til she finds out what Skip’s having for dinner.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 24, 2023 06:10 PM (u73oe)

241 237 Which Wagner dude was doing the stewardess?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 24, 2023 06:09 PM (xTRSc)

'If I'm going out, I'm going out happy!'
-Naked Gun 33 1/3

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2023 06:10 PM (cmney)

242 Good lord the media is pathetic.

In a crate of wine ? Really ? Where the fuck would that piece of bullshit come from ? Is it possible ? Sure, I guess. Is there literally any chance there is any significant evidence to support this, or is it the Brian Sicnick with a Fire Extinguisher of plane crashes ?

Posted by: deadrody at August 24, 2023 06:10 PM (kYmXc)

243 I guess I'm a few percent short of complete degeneracy. I'll work on it, I promise.
Posted by: mikeski at August 24, 2023 06:07 PM (DgGvY)

Don't worry, if you just buckle down, focus, and apply yourself you'll get there before you know it.

Posted by: Degenerate motivational speaker at August 24, 2023 06:11 PM (fhX0j)

244 "Ticket to the Moon." ELO. the Time album. Nice song, but I call it "Chopping Broccoli."

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at August 24, 2023 06:11 PM (T/Lqj)

245 137 Someone, by pure chance, moved the briefcase on the wrong side of the table upright. I think that was at the Wolfschanze. Hitler had a lot of luck. The Devil looks out for his own.

saw a show back when the history channel was the hitler channel about how many assassination attempts hitler survived (about 50, iirc), mostly by changing his travel arrangements at the last minute.

Posted by: anachronda at August 24, 2023 06:11 PM (v3pYe)

246 The only place where Putin will be sincerely mourned will be in Syria, by Assad and his lackeys, and in some American so-called "conservative" circles.
Posted by: PG at August 24, 2023 06:10 PM (84jHt)

No one loves Putin that I know.... Same goes for Zelenski in my book.. People are dying for no reason and Biden is aiding this

Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2023 06:12 PM (bs+z0)

247 Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 24, 2023 06:10 PM (u73oe)

LOL. If they're little bunnies he'd only get a mouthful from each. Now if it were the Skip that is Wylie Coyotes nephew it wuld be a different story.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 24, 2023 06:12 PM (NpWq6)

248 Nobody puts Hitler in the corner.

Posted by: confused zombie patrick swayze at August 24, 2023 06:12 PM (ppBhU)

249
In a crate of wine ? Really ?

__________

You'd think someone would have noticed all the wires and the timer on the crate marked "Wine", but did they?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 24, 2023 06:12 PM (MoZTd)

250 When you strike at the king...

You best not miss.

Posted by: Omar Little at August 24, 2023 06:13 PM (J8OCH)

251
Today we saw how the little Kremlin filth wiped out Yevgeny Viktorovich


Looks like the epithet of "the little White House filth" is available for the asking. Have we any nominations?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 24, 2023 06:13 PM (xG4kz)

252 The only place where Putin will be sincerely mourned will be in Syria, by Assad and his lackeys, and in some American so-called "conservative" circles.
Posted by: PG at August 24, 2023 06:10 PM (84jHt)

Tell me know nothing about Russia without telling me you know nothing about Russian.

Vlad is a Tzar. A lot of people over there love and honor him, like it or not.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 24, 2023 06:14 PM (xcxpd)

253 Was the crate of wine marked, Acme Wine?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 24, 2023 06:14 PM (tRWwW)

254 PS... While "Wine Bomb" > "Wine Mom"

The corollary is also true:

"Wine Mom, Wine Bombed" > "Wine Bomb"

Posted by: deadrody at August 24, 2023 06:14 PM (kYmXc)

255 221 Dagny, most Russians have some Asiatic features.

There was a famous film actor in the 30s named Warner Oland. He was Swedish, but played many Asian characters, including Charlie Chan and an Asian herbalist in The Werewolf of London. He attributed his Asiatic-looking features to partial Russian ancestry.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 24, 2023 06:15 PM (xTRSc)

256 Putin is more honest than Joe

by a long shot

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2023 06:15 PM (us2H3)

257
No one loves Putin that I know.... Same goes for Zelenski in my book.. People are dying for no reason and Biden is aiding this

Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2023 06:12 PM


Aiding this? He's signing the checks that cost the average household $900 in wealth. Why? Because he got millions of dollars and a beach house. Sucks to be us.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 24, 2023 06:15 PM (enJYY)

258 89degF is the coolest I can get in here today with my dinky window A/C. It's tolerable, because I'm sitting here buck nekkid. What are you morons wearing?

Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 06:15 PM (MvF+J)

259 Baby bunnies are wild, would like to have them survive and stay that way

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2023 06:15 PM (MOY79)

260 254 PS... While "Wine Bomb" > "Wine Mom"

The corollary is also true:

"Wine Mom, Wine Bombed" > "Wine Bomb"
Posted by: deadrody at August 24, 2023 06:14 PM (kYmXc)

https://tinyurl.com/56bevsve

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2023 06:16 PM (cmney)

261 Do all Russian stews look like that? Jeebsus.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at August 24, 2023 06:16 PM (OZjDX)

262 Does Biden drink wine?

Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 24, 2023 06:16 PM (9CTr8)

263 So Trump gets a mugshot in one hour fifteen?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2023 06:16 PM (5xURv)

264 the Russians are trying to put missile in Nicaragua

same dynamic at play

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2023 06:17 PM (us2H3)

265 Continuing theme:

https://tinyurl.com/y8tvemtf

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 24, 2023 06:17 PM (cmney)

266 "You'd think someone would have noticed all the wires and the timer on the crate marked "Wine", but did they?"

Box wine filled with nitroglycerin. Fruity, with dynamic mouthfeel and very short finish.

Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 06:17 PM (MvF+J)

267 I still can't believe the whole lot of them would get on that plane announced

Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2023 06:17 PM (bs+z0)

268 What are you morons wearing?
Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 06:15 PM (MvF+J)

Khakis. And I am not hideous. And my name is not Jake.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at August 24, 2023 06:17 PM (T/Lqj)

269 Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2023 06:15 PM (MOY79)

I knew that, Skip.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 24, 2023 06:17 PM (NpWq6)

270 What are you morons wearing?

Shorts, tshirt, just like very day since sometime in April.

I was going to say the hollowed out epidermis of my enemy, but someone would take that seriously I don't want to feed into anyone's fetishes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at August 24, 2023 06:18 PM (Bd6X8)

271 So Trump gets a mugshot in one hour fifteen?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2023 06:16 PM (5xURv)

————-

Saw where one of the lawyers is using his as his profile pic on Twitter.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 24, 2023 06:18 PM (u73oe)

272 Deep State is making bank on the tax payers sending billions to Ukraine. Every step in the chain some gets siphoned off the top.

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2023 06:18 PM (MOY79)

273 Marilyn Mosby is on trial atm

if there is a God, Fat Ass Fani will be next

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2023 06:18 PM (us2H3)

274 Does Biden drink wine?
Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 24, 2023 06:16 PM (9CTr

Big juice boxes.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at August 24, 2023 06:18 PM (T/Lqj)

275 Stewardess now literally stew.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 24, 2023 06:18 PM (bKH3D)

276 OK... Wagner group was under Russian control again, and moving towards the borders to threaten the 'West' Again.

And then, its entire leadership gets killed in an assassination.

It's back to, who profits. Whose interest is served. Russians are chess players. Making Putin out as some megalomaniac Bond villain is entertaining, but not realistic.

This is right up there with Russia blowing their own pipeline, or blowing up their own bridge.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 24, 2023 06:18 PM (oHd/0)

277 268 TMI.

Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 06:18 PM (MvF+J)

278 Nah, sorry, I know little but it seems policy has generally been separate countries, broker peace, keep some peacekeepers around - like Northern Ireland & Ireland's 'Troubles,' old Yugoslavia & the Bosnian War, etc. - or wave while quickly departing and leaving citizens on their own for the most part.

Everybody - forums, embassies, the World Bank, members of the CGI - you name it, they're on Rebuilding Ukraine & on it for the LONG haul even as things appear ever worse after more money, weapons, planes.

It's not right, it's not 'normal' much like blowing up the Nord Stream l and Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipelines, almost a year ago, 26 September 2022.

Putin would know the loyalists would be provoked. Ergo, looks a tad more like prep for the spring offensive.

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemy at August 24, 2023 06:18 PM (GshMh)

279 270 What are you morons wearing?

white jeans, pink tank top and crocs

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2023 06:19 PM (us2H3)

280 "No one loves Putin that I know...."
That was my original point, but another poster here assured me that I was wrong. Whom should I believe now?

Posted by: PG at August 24, 2023 06:19 PM (84jHt)

281 Maybe the stewardess was flying the plane.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

She didn't look Asian.





I denounce myself.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 24, 2023 06:19 PM (lnEH2)

282 So Trump gets a mugshot in one hour fifteen?

He should get a teardrop tattoo beforehand, and a MAGA neck tat.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 24, 2023 06:19 PM (ppBhU)

283 Ok, so people don't like Putin or Russia, and don't like it when people defend them. Cool, I can dig that. With ya 110%.

But now... Explain why anyone should like or defend Zelensky or Ukraine. Tell me why I should care. Tell me what my national interest is in supporting them. Tell me what the plan is to achieve victory, and then secure the peace. Tell me how it's even the morally right thing to do. Anything.

I've been waiting for any cogent explanation for any of that beyond "buh buh muh Russianz," for close to two years, now. I expect I'll be waiting until the US draws down its last Eastern European military presence in humiliated defeat. Sometime around 2045, I'm guessing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 24, 2023 06:19 PM (0FoWg)

284 Reading the content the past couple weeks has me feeling like Rockhound duct taped to the dolly cart. It's ALL fucked up now.

Posted by: Mike Oxlong at August 24, 2023 06:19 PM (dRxzV)

285 Sucks to be us.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 24, 2023 06:15 PM (enJYY)

Not really. I would much rather be me with the family I have than corrupt Joe Biden with dementia and his corrupt family.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 24, 2023 06:19 PM (NpWq6)

286 Dmitri looks like the guy Goldfinger calls when Odd Job had some bad sushi the night before and can't get off the toilet.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at August 24, 2023 06:19 PM (OZjDX)

287 282 So Trump gets a mugshot in one hour fifteen?

He should get a teardrop tattoo beforehand, and a MAGA neck tat.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 24, 2023 06:19 PM (ppBhU)


Hahaha. I'm sure the photoshops will be epic.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2023 06:20 PM (5xURv)

288 Wagner could f up Russia pretty bad by taking Peter or a large city like Samara...

Posted by: Mishdog at August 24, 2023 06:20 PM (YXEoM)

289 I still can't believe the whole lot of them would get on that plane announced
Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2023 06:17 PM (bs+z0)

I doubt absolutely all news that comes out of that region. Come to think of it, I absolutely doubt all news.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 24, 2023 06:20 PM (BdMk6)

290 That looks like films I've seen of B-17s and B-24s heading down after the tail was blown-off by flak or fighters. Flat spins and simple dives in crazy sequences. Explosives detonating in the rear of Prighozin's plane, blowing the tail off, may be what happened

Posted by: Gref at August 24, 2023 06:20 PM (AMIL/)

291
89 degF is the coolest I can get in here today with my dinky window A/C. It's tolerable, because I'm sitting here buck nekkid. What are you morons wearing?

Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 06:15 PM


If you and as many of your deceased relatives as possible move to PA, we're going through a thoroughly mild August. Today was maybe 75 degrees outside, 75 inside. Perfect temps for me.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 24, 2023 06:21 PM (enJYY)

292 In a crate of wine ? Really ?

__________

You'd think someone would have noticed all the wires and the timer on the crate marked "Wine", but did they?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 24, 2023 06:12 PM (MoZTd)

-----------

Out: Clock Boy.
In: Wine Bomb.

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel at August 24, 2023 06:21 PM (vrjjg)

293 At least is wasn't a case of Bud Light.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 24, 2023 06:21 PM (74P1B)

294 I love how grotesquely stupid trolls conflate opposing Washington's mindless involvement in Ukraine with love for Putin. Putin has done to elevate humanity's position. Nor has Biden, Klaus Schwab, Tony Blinken, Vivtoria Nuland, Bill Kristol, and so on.

Posted by: Erik In Texas at August 24, 2023 06:22 PM (ynmtz)

295 It's very weird that Nazi stuff appears to be popular with certain Russiana and Ukrainians..did they totally miss the part where Nazis saw them as subhuman Slavs who needed to be "cleansed"?

Posted by: Azjaeger at August 24, 2023 06:22 PM (HvkpG)

296 What are you morons wearing?

white jeans, pink tank top and crocs
Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2023 06:19 PM (us2H3)

Are you Garrett's sock puppet?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 24, 2023 06:24 PM (BdMk6)

297 270 I was going to say the hollowed out epidermis of my enemy, but someone would take that seriously I don't want to feed into anyone's fetishes.

see my vest
see my vest
made of real gorilla chest

Posted by: montgomery burns at August 24, 2023 06:24 PM (v3pYe)

298 What about Vlad’s gymnast mistress? Has she popped out his spawn yet?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 24, 2023 06:24 PM (xTRSc)

299 291 100degF outside right now, which is not at all unusual for my region in August. Cools off this weekend.

Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 06:24 PM (MvF+J)

300 Zed's dead, baby.

Posted by: Butch at August 24, 2023 06:24 PM (v0R5T)

301 The Dmitri Utkin photo.. if someone doesn't use that in a bogus Tinder account, it will be a lost opportunity for great hilarity

I seek woman who enjoys laying on floor covered in meat while I urinate on you and sing glorious Russian anthem

Posted by: Dmitry at August 24, 2023 06:24 PM (LNY2Q)

302 It's very weird that Nazi stuff appears to be popular with certain Russiana and Ukrainians..did they totally miss the part where Nazis saw them as subhuman Slavs who needed to be "cleansed"?
Posted by: Azjaeger at August 24, 2023 06:22 PM (HvkpG)

Lots of trash there celebrate Hitlers birthday. Us foreign students were told not to leave our apartments the whole day. Some poor Vietnamese student was pushed into the metro line while I was there....

Posted by: Mishdog at August 24, 2023 06:24 PM (YXEoM)

303
Pity the poor fool on that plane who was in the restroom.

"Do you feel like you are in charge?"

-- Bain

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 24, 2023 06:24 PM (xG4kz)

304 Russian Nazis? Why not. The Left is a sewar of human crazy.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 24, 2023 06:25 PM (Eeb9P)

305 It's very weird that Nazi stuff appears to be popular with certain Russiana and Ukrainians..did they totally miss the part where Nazis saw them as subhuman Slavs who needed to be "cleansed"?

Utkin apparently grew up in Ukraine. When the Germans invaded, the Ukes had been brutalized by Stalin. So despite the lack of Nazi love for the Ukes . . . . Had Hitler had the good sense to arm and equip the Ukrainians, instead of sending in the gas trucks, he probably could have raised a good number of troops.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 24, 2023 06:25 PM (ppBhU)

306 89 degF is the coolest I can get in here today with my dinky window A/C. It's tolerable, because I'm sitting here buck nekkid. What are you morons wearing?

Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 06:15 PM


A big fan can be your best friend in the summer, anywhere you live.

Posted by: Gref at August 24, 2023 06:26 PM (AMIL/)

307 Ukrainian Nazis were a Thing in the Great Patriotic War…

Posted by: tubal at August 24, 2023 06:26 PM (PCK5/)

308 https://tinyurl.com/yxaxcp7k
20 Tweets from Bad Blue

Pretty good one
And #10 does everyone in California dive with slicks in the rain?

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2023 06:26 PM (MOY79)

309 Washington's mindless involvement in Ukraine with love for Putin

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Ukrainians have literal Nazi regiments.

The fucking stupidity of the left knows no bounds.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 24, 2023 06:27 PM (VTu1l)

310 249 You'd think someone would have noticed all the wires and the timer on the crate marked "Wine", but did they?

that's just to let you know when it's wine o'clock

Posted by: totally not suspicious baggage handler at August 24, 2023 06:27 PM (v3pYe)

311 >It's very weird that Nazi stuff appears to be popular with certain Russiana and Ukrainians..did they totally miss the part where Nazis saw them as subhuman Slavs who needed to be "cleansed"?
Posted by: Azjaeger at August 24, 2023 06:22 PM (HvkpG)

This makes me aware the I'm woefully under-educated in history. On the surface it's ridiculous but there must be some "rational" reason for it.

Well, I can kind of see why the Ukrainians might admire NSDAP because "enemy of my enemy", but Russians really puzzle me.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at August 24, 2023 06:27 PM (S7JkI)

312 Who thinks that when Putin finally dies, that his fuzzy wuzzy replacement will bow down and love the west?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 24, 2023 06:27 PM (tRWwW)

313 The Wagner Group was supposedly named for Utkin’s call sign, “Wagner.”

So, was he a huge anti-Semite, or did he just want to kill the Wabbit?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 24, 2023 06:27 PM (xTRSc)

314 Like my loafers?
Real gopher
That or skin my chauffeur

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 24, 2023 06:27 PM (Eeb9P)

315 312 Who thinks that when Putin finally dies, that his fuzzy wuzzy replacement will bow down and love the west?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 24, 2023 06:27 PM (tRWwW)

I fully expect them to be worse

Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2023 06:28 PM (bs+z0)

316 Does Biden drink wine?
Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 24, 2023 06:16 PM (9CTr


It pairs badly with Adrenochrome, Donepezil and methamphetamines

Posted by: Kindltot at August 24, 2023 06:28 PM (xhaym)

317 306 Box fan blowing on me right now. I was pricing fans today, and wow they about doubled in price since last I looked. Microwaves too.

Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 06:28 PM (MvF+J)

318 In Soviet Moscow, Ivan only drinks potato vodka.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 24, 2023 06:28 PM (fY84s)

319 HOFer Warren Sapp just went apey on a commercial flight.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 24, 2023 06:28 PM (nnp+f)

320 he probably could have raised a good number of troops.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 24, 2023 06:25 PM (ppBhU)

He did. A quarter million of them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 24, 2023 06:29 PM (0FoWg)

321 Kristian Raspopova, the stewardress:
.......

AKA Natasha Fatale, Rooshan Spy

Posted by: Butch at August 24, 2023 06:29 PM (v0R5T)

322 Russian Nazis?

They bombed Pearl Harbour!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 24, 2023 06:30 PM (bKH3D)

323 Remember when they did those stings here to catch guys with outstanding warrants? They'd tell them they won a prize and to go to a location to get it? That's what this reminds me of.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 24, 2023 06:30 PM (ouTlx)

324 I love how grotesquely stupid trolls conflate opposing Washington's mindless involvement in Ukraine with love for Putin. Putin has done to elevate humanity's position. Nor has Biden, Klaus Schwab, Tony Blinken, Vivtoria Nuland, Bill Kristol, and so on.

Posted by: Erik In Texas at August 24, 2023 06:22 PM (ynmtz)

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Yeah, kind of tough now to call out an installed crime family tyrant in another country with supportive oligarchs doing his bidding ... if you're an American these days.

Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel at August 24, 2023 06:30 PM (HlbBf)

325 Well, I can kind of see why the Ukrainians might admire NSDAP because "enemy of my enemy", but Russians really puzzle me.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at August 24, 2023 06:27 PM (S7JkI)

Well... you have your Ethnic... then Racial (different)... the Religious... then political... then FINALLY, last, National... differences all stirred together into a toxic Stew.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 24, 2023 06:30 PM (oHd/0)

326 They did the same thing to Poland a few years back. I guess if it keeps working....

Posted by: brak at August 24, 2023 06:30 PM (BouGb)

327 The Ukrainians were totally down with killing Jews during WWII.

And prior to that as well.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 24, 2023 06:30 PM (xTRSc)

328 So, tonight ... Body cavity search for the Golden Scalp Weasel?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 24, 2023 06:31 PM (bKH3D)

329 That guy...eeesh, what a mug. He's straight out of central casting for some Australian outback horror movie.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 24, 2023 06:31 PM (mupln)

330 What are you morons wearing?

white jeans, pink tank top and crocs
Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2023 06:19 PM (us2H3)


Twinsies!

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan at August 24, 2023 06:31 PM (W8VzH)

331 Sign on a Hawaiian business:

"Sorry you almost lost your '67 corvette in a fire, Mr. President ❤️ Maui Strong!"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 24, 2023 06:31 PM (geenm)

332
Damn. I did not have to see the Rudy Giuliani mugshot picture a couple hours before bedtime. He must have practiced looking bad ass in the mirror beforehand.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 24, 2023 06:32 PM (enJYY)

333 327 The Ukrainians were totally down with killing Jews during WWII.

And prior to that as well.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 24, 2023 06:30 PM (xTRSc)

A,lot written about them being notably vicious camp guards…

Posted by: tubal at August 24, 2023 06:32 PM (PCK5/)

334 Does Victoria Nuland actually believe she can run a Color Revolution in Russia?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 24, 2023 06:32 PM (tRWwW)

335 Russian Nazis?

They bombed Pearl Harbour!
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 24, 2023 06:30 PM

Yeah...Russian Nazis....

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Illinois Nazis at August 24, 2023 06:32 PM (kF4Fp)

336 That guy...eeesh, what a mug. He's straight out of central casting for some Australian outback horror movie.
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 24, 2023 06:31 PM (mupln)
........

Yeah, he looks like somebody just put beetroots on his hamburger.

Posted by: wth at August 24, 2023 06:33 PM (v0R5T)

337 They said they are going to treat Trump like any other prisoner. Pat down, remove laces and tie, mug shot, fingerprints.

Because, you know, he might try to hang himself in lockup, or he might rob a convenience store later, so they want his prints and photo on file.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 24, 2023 06:34 PM (geenm)

338 I hate Illinois Nazis.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 24, 2023 06:34 PM (xTRSc)

339 Who thinks that when Putin finally dies, that his fuzzy wuzzy replacement will bow down and love the west?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at A

Nobody in favor of our involvement (mostly on the Left, but many on the Right) ever even tries to explain how any of this shit would supposedly """"work."""" Just "slava Ukraini buh muh russianz u must love Putin hurr durr."

Stupidest, most thoughtless, most hidebound gang of thrashing retards to ever rule this country.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 24, 2023 06:34 PM (0FoWg)

340 "Explain why anyone should like or defend Zelensky or Ukraine."
The US signed an agreement guaranteeing Ukraine's borders. The US should help Ukraine defend itself.
I like Zelenski because he ran on anti-corruption promises, which he to some extent put into practice. I also like him because he didn't run away immediately, when all the jaded Western analysts said that as soon as Putin invaded his government would collapse.
Definitely, Zelenski and his government are better than their Western backers.

Posted by: PG at August 24, 2023 06:34 PM (84jHt)

341 "Are we the baddies?"

"Da. Now shut up and get on the plane."

Posted by: Harun at August 24, 2023 06:34 PM (Cg63x)

342 Maybe Ace will have a sweet Cafe before The Donald surrenders for arrest.

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemy at August 24, 2023 06:35 PM (GshMh)

343 "That guy...eeesh, what a mug."

A face that makes some people strongly desire to fire Stinger missiles at it.

Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 06:36 PM (MvF+J)

344 The Polish plane going down at Smolensk April 2010 was a real accident. Swearsies.

Anyho, Poles don’t like wine.

Posted by: 13times at August 24, 2023 06:36 PM (isyai)

345 Putin better hope he has the shoes for this. Wagoner's merc's are all over the globe doing Russia's dirty work. They're in places like Syria and all over Africa. Prigozhin also wasn't the kinda guy not to have a succession plan. The more seasoned guys are not people to be trifled with. Yeah, they're contractors but some of them are hardcore, loyal and can't be bought. Get some popcorn.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 24, 2023 06:37 PM (J47y1)

346 nood

Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at August 24, 2023 06:37 PM (MvF+J)

347 He looks like an extra from "The Hills Have Eyes"

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 24, 2023 06:37 PM (1hsE1)

348 "The Ukrainians were totally down with killing Jews during WWII."

Also, to be independent they had to ally with Hitler. And even they put the Ukrainian resistance leader in a concentration camp. They released him later to help the war effort.

But if a guy was put in the camps...sure, Bandera isn't a nice guy, but he's also got very little choice for allies, being squeezed between nazis and commies.

And the commies tried to wipe out Ukraine's kulaks in the 20's and 30's.

Posted by: Harun at August 24, 2023 06:37 PM (Cg63x)

349 Americans don't get Russians. The Sting song aside, 70 years of godless rule has an effect. Throw in their historic xenophobia and general state of depression, understand they have a general "I don't give a fuck mentality". Putin is Russia, Wagner screwed with the wrong dude.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 24, 2023 06:37 PM (oWBc3)

350 Oh, no. I am so sorry that is happening to you!

Joe Germanotta, the father of the famous pop singer Lady Gaga, lives on the block and, along with McIntyre, belongs to a new residents’ association committed to ending the migrant crisis in the UWS.

“The city did not think this through,” Germanotta told National Review. “And we’re all suffering. They dropped 500 people into the neighborhood that have no code of conduct.”

“We’re probably 18 months away from looking like San Francisco.”

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 24, 2023 06:37 PM (geenm)

351 Mug shots of the 18 Political prisoners was on Bad Blue

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2023 06:37 PM (MOY79)

352 He did. A quarter million of them.

Interesting. I hadn't known that. I thought the official policy was liquidation.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 24, 2023 06:38 PM (ppBhU)

353 Maybe a good example is America was helped by THE FRENCH MONARCHY in our revolution.

sometimes you gotta choose allies at hand.

Posted by: Harun at August 24, 2023 06:38 PM (Cg63x)

354 The Ukrainians were totally down with killing Jews during WWII.



Not just totally down, but happy willing volunteers to do it. The Germans didn’t have to ask even.

Posted by: Montec at August 24, 2023 06:39 PM (O6hZK)

355 The US signed an agreement guaranteeing Ukraine's borders. The US should help Ukraine defend itself.

------

It increasingly looks as though they can't. Where does this end. Because I assure you the answer your leadership has is "we will guarantee those borders ourselves, and it ends when we can no longer squeeze any more graft or political capital out of this fully destabilized region."

As to Zelensky personally? He's corrupt AF. And now also a dictator, like Putin. He's just our creature, for the time being.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 24, 2023 06:40 PM (0FoWg)

356 Some of the people in line behind Putin are worse than him. But I will bet you $100 the agency didn't mind seeing Prigozhin go down. Their real worry is stability and ensuring Russia's nuke don't get into the wrong hands. Prigozhin and his guys are a wild card in that regards. In fact I bet there is intel flowing about any movement towards a nuke storage sight.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 24, 2023 06:40 PM (J47y1)

357 Just think, a couple of years from now Barack Obama can sojourn to PDT's prison cell to capture the ethereal zeitgeist like he did with Mandala in South Africa.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 24, 2023 06:41 PM (fY84s)

358
The Wagner Group was supposedly named for Utkin’s call sign, “Wagner.”

So, was he a huge anti-Semite, or did he just want to kill the Wabbit?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus


He was a power painter.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 24, 2023 06:42 PM (63Dwl)

359 This is like the night of the long knives. Prigozhin is an old lackey of Putin from his St. Petersburg/Leningrad days and dared too much, presuming on an old familiarity. But Putin won't let stupid sentimentality get in the way of business and won't have his power challenged.

Posted by: PG at August 24, 2023 06:46 PM (84jHt)

360 The US signed an agreement guaranteeing Ukraine's borders. The US should help Ukraine defend itself.


———

The USA says and does a lot of bullshit stuff.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 24, 2023 06:49 PM (8tBB1)

361 The Russians are irredentists. Have always been irredentists. Will continue to be irredentists.

The current nomenklatura want their empire back. Even if it takes one hundred years to do it. Putin’s predecessors did so, and his successors will continue it.

List the modern day irredentist carve-outs.

Posted by: 13times at August 24, 2023 06:51 PM (Eh5U4)

362 "It increasingly looks as though they can't."
Getting my news from pro-Ukrainian sources (the Institute for the Study of War), it looks like the Ukrainians are making modest, but constant progress. In a small, but significant sector of the front, they are past the first line of Russian fortifications and hopefully the second and third line will fold much more rapidly. This remains to be seen.
The other side is the one that had an armed rebellion, followed by purges.

Posted by: PG at August 24, 2023 06:51 PM (84jHt)

363 That photo is NOT Utkin, according to multiple sources.

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366 Yeah...no. This was a CIA hit. The deep state has been trying to force a regime change in Russia and manipulating Wagner to do it is an east coast desk jockey's idea to do it.

Nevermind that anyone who replaces Putin is going to be ten times the hardliner he is, but if our betters in the deep state actually thought through the consequences of their actions theblast thirty years or more would look very different.

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