Trump's Bond in Joke Fulton County Prosecution Set at $200,000; Forbidden to Engage in "Witness Intimidation"

I think that last part is important -- they aim to take any comment by Trump impugning a witness's credibility and claim that Trump is "intimidating" that witness.

And then they'll put Trump in jail, pre-trial, claiming he violated the terms of his bail.

Donald Trump must surrender to Georgia authorities for arrest and arraignment in his state 2020 election interference RICO case by Friday, but the conditions he must agree to in order to secure bail have already been decided.
Prosecutors met with Trump's attorneys on Monday to discuss the specifics on the former president's surrender and the conditions of his release. The former president will be required to pay a $200,000 bond, and sign off on various requirements from the court in order to remain free. These include not committing any further crimes, appearing in court when required to, and refraining from making any "direct or indirect threat of any nature" against any co-defendant, unindicted co-conspirator, witness, or victim.
The court also prohibits the former president from making a "direct or indirect threat of any nature against the community or to any property in the community."
Crucially, prosecutors made a point to stipulate that these restrictions apply to "posts on social media or reposts of posts made by another individual on social media."

Having agreed to this, will Trump be able to refrain from saying anything that could "indirectly" "intimidate" a witness? Which could be construed by an anti-Trump kangaroo court as including any negative statement at all, because that could scare a witness into thinking Dark MAGA Extremists will come lynch him?

I don't know. ~~Bob~~ former AG Bill Barr said that he warned Trump that his post-election actions would wind up keeping him entangled with the Department of Justice for the rest of his life, but Trump went ahead anyway.

While former President Donald Trump spoke to Fox Business Network's Larry Kudlow Thursday, former Attorney General Bill Barr told Neil Cavuto on Fox News, "No one should be surprised" that Trump has become completely wrapped up in the legal system due to his actions leading up to the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection.
"I resigned on December 14 because I thought that at that point the state votes were certified and that was the end of the legal process," Barr said, adding:

And I also didn't like the way he was spouting the Big Lie. I thought that was irresponsible. But he took it much further than even I expected, or anyone expected. And during this time, he was being told by lawyers in the White House that if he kept on doing this, he would spend the rest of his life tangling with the criminal justice process. And that's exactly what's happened. He shouldn't be surprised and no one else should be surprised.
"Well, the fact he didn't drop things could lead to some to believe, and his people who defend him say, that he genuinely did feel that he was robbed and this was the good fight and the proper fight," Cavuto said.
Barr responded, "Well, even if he did -- and I'm dubious about that -- but even if he did, that doesn't mean you can use illegal meaning to rectify it. If you think the bank is unfairly keeping your money, there are many things you can do to get it back; You can't go and rob the bank."
Earlier in the interview, Barr said he thought both federal cases against Trump were legitimate.

At the end of the day, at the core of this thing, he engaged -- in the case of the documents -- in outrageous behavior where anyone would be prosecuted. I don't know of any attorney general who could walk away from it. He's not being prosecuted for having the documents. He's being prosecuted for obstruction. Two egregious instances are alleged. So, I think that's a very simple case and that should be tried. If the judge is anywhere competent, that could be concluded before the summer. And the other case, after the election, he, in my opinion, did cross the line. It wasn't just rough and tumble politics. He crossed the line.

I don't know if I agree that Trump crossed a line, at least not one that had not been repeatedly crossed by Democrats in the past, and in their illegal rigging of the 2020 election itself, mailing millions of ballots to unconfirmed addresses and even turning off the signature verification system that provided at least a pretense of attempting to weed out fraudulent votes.

But certainly he stepped right on up to that line. And I'm only pointing that out to answer the question I posed above: Will Trump be able to restrain himself from stepping up to the line as far as "indirect" witness "intimidation"?

And what will happen to the country if a Fulton County pissant judge orders a presidential contender to jail?

If they want to find Trump to arrest him, one place they shouldn't bother looking is at any of the presidential debates.

He indicated, in his typical, detiorating-mental-health all-caps way, that he won't be "DOING THE DEBATES," plural, meaning he's going to skip them all.

At least, so it seems. Who knows what goes on in his head.

And with that statement, Trump guarantees that no Democrat opponent will agree to debate him, if that opponent is ahead in the polls. He will just cite the "Trump Precedent" -- if you're ahead in the polls and you have personal grudges against your opponents, you can spurn hundreds of years of American historical practice and refuse to debate.

I hated when Abortion Mouse did this in Arizona, and I hate that Trump is doing it now.

And if Trump is behind in the polls -- and I think he will be, even against Biden, and 8-10 points behind Gavin Newsom, the more likely candidate -- then Biden or Newsom will just say, "Go f*** yourself, your rules, no debate."

So much winning, you'll get sick of all the winning.

The forms, habits, and practices of democracy are worth keeping, but I guess that now, like the Constitution, that was all like a hundred years ago, man.

I can't say that a Democrat wouldn't have skipped out on the debates whether Trump skipped them first or not. I expected voters to punish Abortion Mouse for refusing to stand before the public and present an accounting of herself; they didn't.

So maybe this is just the new normal. America is ending, and not gracefully.

Trump will pull his usual bullshit move and try to get better ratings that the people he's up against by doing an interview with Tucker Carlson.

Former President Donald Trump will reportedly not attend the first Republican primary debate next week and will instead participate in an interview with Tucker Carlson.
Trump has long hinted that he would not attend the debate and has bristled at the requirement that candidates sign a pledge to support the eventual nominee in order to participate.
The New York Times, which first reported Trump's decision, interpreted the Carlson interview as a snub to Fox News, an outlet with which he has feuded since leaving office. Carlson, for his part, was fired from the network in the wake of a settlement with Dominion Voting Systems related to the network's coverage of the firm.

I sure hope Tucker Carlson is up to the task of quizzing Trump seriously about his record and his failures and what plan he has to correct those going forward (spoiler: there is no plan), because Trump is attempting to run without answering any questions about these things.

I know he sat for an interview with CNN but liberal outfits do not ask questions about conservative priorities, only about leftwing priorities. So unless Tucker Carlson bothers asking him about his support of Fauci and lockdowns and failure to drain the swamp -- indeed, far from draining the Swamp, he mostly nominated the Swamp -- we will never have any answers about these questions.

But you know: Muh Ratings. Most important thing in running a country: getting the good ratings. The best ratings.

Posted by: Ace at 06:18 PM

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Posted by: GF at August 21, 2023 06:19 PM (aJxr8)

2 Donald Trump

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 21, 2023 06:20 PM (xcxpd)

3 And Fuck Bill Bar with a chainsaw

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 21, 2023 06:21 PM (xcxpd)

4 Just light the fuse, bitches.

Posted by: Marooned at August 21, 2023 06:21 PM (kt8QE)

5 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 21, 2023 06:21 PM (T4tVD)

6 Speaking of "Public Trump Derangement Syndrome Meltdowns"

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at August 21, 2023 06:22 PM (WiAW9)

7 I want answers about Covid. I want answers about Operation Warp Speed. And, I want answers about all those people Trump left hanging for Jan. 6th. Tucker is the guy who can ask the right questions. I really hope he does.

Posted by: NAB at August 21, 2023 06:23 PM (3sHsl)

8 >>>6 Speaking of "Public Trump Derangement Syndrome Meltdowns"

of course all criticism of Your Fucking God is illegitimate and a "meltdown," right?

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:24 PM (KRtlO)

9 Pence flat out stabbed Trump in the back. I would not pledge to support him either.... period.

As to Barr? He's the one who oversaw the entire Justice department special investigation into Trump Russia collusion, and yet never seemed to find out it was all a PLOT OF THE DEMOCRATS.

I would not support Trump normally... I did not like his Covid actions, and think he is too old... but the simple fact is that if they can use the DOJ to stop him running???? We are done.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 21, 2023 06:24 PM (oHd/0)

10 Isn’t witness intimidation already illegal? Why didn’t they throw in he can’t knock off witnesses too wile they are at it.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 21, 2023 06:24 PM (A1Hcp)

11 >>>I sure hope Tucker Carlson is up to the task of quizzing Trump seriously about his record and his failures and what plan he has to correct those going forward (spoiler: there is no plan), because Trump is attempting to run without answering any questions about these things.

In other words, who will be at the interview, Tucker Carlson or Fluffer Carlson.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 21, 2023 06:24 PM (xPl2J)

12 If Trump actually fucked everyone in DC to death it'd be less than they deserve.

Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2023 06:24 PM (FhXTo)

13 Cue the Commissary scene from Blazing Saddles.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 21, 2023 06:25 PM (guGkK)

14 "of course all criticism of Your Fucking God is illegitimate and a "meltdown," right?"

Yes - that's why it's a cult.

Posted by: EtcEtcEtc at August 21, 2023 06:25 PM (8s49i)

15 Barr responded, "Well, even if he did -- and I'm dubious about that -- but even if he did, that doesn't mean you can use illegal meaning to rectify it. If you think the bank is unfairly keeping your money, there are many things you can do to get it back; You can't go and rob the bank."

This is the conservative worldview in a nutshell. The process is everything. But what if the process is broken?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 21, 2023 06:25 PM (ppBhU)

16 Y'know who else went to jail before becoming his country's leader?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 21, 2023 06:25 PM (zEUpG)

17 All Caps indicates deteriorating mental health? He's been doing that since he began running for President and probably before-although I was not a Trump follower.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 21, 2023 06:26 PM (NpWq6)

18 Trump must keep his mouth shut about anyone the prosecution has on hand. They are absolutely laying for him and even a child can see that…

Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2023 06:26 PM (PCK5/)

19 Do some of the people who are really in the Trump Cult -- which is not all Trump supporters, but come, you know, there are people who think that that just criticizing Trump is some kind of Sin Against God, where just literally whatever Trump says is law and whatever is spoken against Trump, however reasonable, is heresy -- do they realize that they've taken this to a very creepy and dark place?

And to a kinda childish hero-worship, homo erotic place?

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:26 PM (KRtlO)

20 leaving aside all the other arguments about any past election, one thing is painfully true --

any country that actually wanted the population and government to all get along would not have an election system that a huge percentage people don't believe provides accurate results of the vote.

if any country wanted to get along, especially a wealthy country with plenty of technology, that country would institute a system that is transparent, guarantees one-person-one-vote for eligible voters only, and provides a verifiable, auditable tally of votes within a reasonable time.

The fact that this has not happens suggests that everyone should assume there is a reason and it is not good.

Posted by: jc at August 21, 2023 06:26 PM (N1WXz)

21 50/50 chance Trump doesn't like Tucker's questions and will walk out.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 21, 2023 06:26 PM (fs1hN)

22 Trump has never been and never will be my God.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 21, 2023 06:26 PM (NpWq6)

23 What constitutes a crime for Trump in GA? I mean, what's considered a crime seems somewhat expansless for him.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 21, 2023 06:26 PM (FmikP)

24 Ted Cruz, not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

https://tinyurl.com/3ycd2hrh

At least when I make a fool of myself, I do it here so nobody important ever sees it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 21, 2023 06:26 PM (FVME7)

25
2 Donald Trump
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 21, 2023 06:20 PM (xcxpd)

Matt Damon…

Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2023 06:27 PM (PCK5/)

26
As I have written several times already in the MR, America is gone. This is all kabuki theatrics insofar as normal electoral politics.

Yet, it's deadly serious to Trump if he so much as gives a funny look. For better or worse, he's not even a candidate since, as Ace more or less hints at, 2024 is likely stolen already just as 2020 was.

Trump for better or worse is a martyr and the leader of a movement whether we like it or not, warts and all. And there are lots of warts.

Why even get all worked up about what he does since, as I said, the thing is likely rigged out the wazoo even now?

What does it matter?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2023 06:27 PM (x0n13)

27 >>> 8 >>>6 Speaking of "Public Trump Derangement Syndrome Meltdowns"

of course all criticism of Your Fucking God is illegitimate and a "meltdown," right?

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:24 PM (KRtlO)

Do you believe that anything the commies will do to OrangeManBad, would be something they would refrain from doing to any other "R" candidate? or for that matter, if they thought they could get away with it, to any of *us*?

(No, this is not the same as saying "Trump never ever fcked anything up ever")

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 21, 2023 06:27 PM (llON8)

28 Looks like Ace has realized DeSantis blew his own campaign apart and is using that amazing judgment to predict the future again.

(Or he wants DeSantis to shine against Trump in a debate, which as we all know is laughable. DeSantis is a bigger tool of the Rino COrporate Machine than Romney was)

It's all done, folks. It's rigged. If the Powers That Be want Trump in again, he gets in.

It's adorable y'all think we have a legitimate free election system.

Posted by: Mooby Diick at August 21, 2023 06:27 PM (TIWfG)

29 18 Trump must keep his mouth shut about anyone the prosecution has on hand. They are absolutely laying for him and even a child can see that…
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2023 06:26 PM (PCK5/)

If I was Trump, I'd force their hand.

No, I will not give up my First Amendment rights. Arrest my ass.

And Let the Circus... continue in a new town.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 21, 2023 06:27 PM (oHd/0)

30 I can't say that a Democrat wouldn't have skipped out on the debates whether Trump skipped them first or not. I expected voters to punish Abortion Mouse for refusing to stand before the public and present an accounting of herself; they didn't.

Let me know when Biden is debating RFK, Jr.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 21, 2023 06:27 PM (ppBhU)

31 >>>This is the conservative worldview in a nutshell. The process is everything. But what if the process is broken?

that's a super-important question

but I guess my answer would be -- not an answer really, just a point to be considered -- is a flailing, failing effort that goes outside the usual boundaries helpful?

Even if we concede that the system is broken and that therefore Trump is justified in saying "fuck the system" -- is his particular way of doing so actually helping him? Or us?

Failing left and right is not a good tactic.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:28 PM (KRtlO)

32 This is going to be Lit AF!

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at August 21, 2023 06:28 PM (MvF+J)

33 Trump is inevitable… is the outcome?

Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2023 06:28 PM (PCK5/)

34 >>> 26
As I have written several times already in the MR, America is gone. This is all kabuki theatrics insofar as normal electoral politics.

Yet, it's deadly serious to Trump if he so much as gives a funny look. For better or worse, he's not even a candidate since, as Ace more or less hints at, 2024 is likely stolen already just as 2020 was.

Trump for better or worse is a martyr and the leader of a movement whether we like it or not, warts and all. And there are lots of warts.

Why even get all worked up about what he does since, as I said, the thing is likely rigged out the wazoo even now?

What does it matter?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2023 06:27 PM (x0n13)

All of this.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 21, 2023 06:29 PM (llON8)

35 The fact that this has not happens suggests that everyone should assume there is a reason and it is not good.
Posted by: jc a

Leonard DiCaprio finger pointing meme here.

Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2023 06:29 PM (FhXTo)

36 If Trump is too chickenshit to debate, he's not up for this. It's clear Trump is going senile and he doesnt want people to see it.

I still can't believe he somehow lost a debate to Joe Biden, but he did. He's gotten even worse in the last 4 years.

Trump will just never do the homework. Whenever he's asked a real policy question, you can tell he's spent zero prep on it and it's like a kid bullshitting his way through a book report that he never read.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 06:29 PM (cOFom)

37 There's a lot not to like about Trump but I'm not going supine when the uniparty decides to take him out of the running with a bunch of phony banana republic indictments.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 21, 2023 06:29 PM (guGkK)

38 Fuck you Ace.

Posted by: MikeN at August 21, 2023 06:30 PM (KoQEX)

39 29 18 Trump must keep his mouth shut about anyone the prosecution has on hand. They are absolutely laying for him and even a child can see that…
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2023 06:26 PM (PCK5/)

If I was Trump, I'd force their hand.

No, I will not give up my First Amendment rights. Arrest my ass.

And Let the Circus... continue in a new town.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 21, 2023 06:27 PM (oHd/0)

Well that IS a tactic… of course it is not My Ass that would be in jail.. but his.

Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2023 06:30 PM (PCK5/)

40 "As to Barr? He's the one who oversaw the entire Justice department special investigation into Trump Russia collusion, and yet never seemed to find out it was all a PLOT OF THE DEMOCRATS."

Bob Barr of GA, not Bill Barr of D.C.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 21, 2023 06:30 PM (KAi1n)

41 Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:26 PM (KRtlO)

I thought we'd already established that what Trump says matters less than what Trump does?

We went through this in 2015~2016 already.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 21, 2023 06:30 PM (xcxpd)

42 And if Trump is behind in the polls -- and I think he will be, even against Biden, and 8-10 points behind Gavin Newsom, the more likely candidate

the important thing about polls is who is doing the counting

Posted by: stuff stalin said, revised and expanded edition at August 21, 2023 06:30 PM (oY6Yp)

43 Is there any way, at this point, that one of the other Republican candidates could beat Trump?

I just don't see it happening, I can't picture it. His lead is too big, even with several months left before Super Tuesday. And Desantis and Ramaswamy keep stepping on their dicks, and none of the others are actual Republicans.

What conceivable thing would have to happen to make Trump lose 1/3 of his support, and for the field to winnow down to just one of Desantis or Ramaswamy?

At some point it's going to be circle-the-wagons time. I admit that Trump does not appear to be the ideal candidate here, but you go to war with the army you have, yada yada.

Posted by: Pastafarian at August 21, 2023 06:30 PM (sgHEm)

44 Ha, Biden is not even giving RFK Jr Secret Service protection. And given his family’s high propensity to lead absorption, that’s really low.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 21, 2023 06:31 PM (A1Hcp)

45 >>>Do you believe that anything the commies will do to OrangeManBad, would be something they would refrain from doing to any other "R" candidate?

And here we return to the typical dumb argument that "everyone else has done all the stupid shit Trump has done, including paying off porn stars after fucking them"

This is like arguing that after the police sat on George Floyd's chest and Floyd died, "they could have done that to ANYBODY!"

Um, no, George Floyd was the kinda guy who courted that risk.

But do go on claiming Trump is a guy who behaves with highest ethics and judgment -- including showing classified documents to a media person while saying "I shouldn't be showing you this" -- so they can do this to "Anybody,"

They'll kill anybody, just like the killed prudent, law-abiding George Floyd

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:31 PM (KRtlO)

46 Barr responded, "Well, even if he did -- and I'm dubious about that -- but even if he did, that doesn't mean you can use illegal meaning to rectify it. If you think the bank is unfairly keeping your money, there are many things you can do to get it back; You can't go and rob the bank."
____

F* you Barr. If what Trump did was illegal then it was illegal when every Democrat since Gore did the same before. He didn't rob a f*ing bank. Check in with Biden on Bribery though, you might find some real high crimes and misdemeanors if you look into that skeevy POS.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 21, 2023 06:31 PM (fs1hN)

47 From Bonchie of Red State this morning:

The big test for TuckerCarlson’s interview with Trump is if he brings up the comment about being willing to double aid to Ukraine if Russia doesn’t play ball.

Tucker would *never* let any other candidate get away with that. Let’s see what he does.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 21, 2023 06:31 PM (xPl2J)

48 Trump taunted Hilldog. He will go to prison one way or the other.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 21, 2023 06:31 PM (Eeb9P)

49 Well that IS a tactic… of course it is not My Ass that would be in jail.. but his.
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2023 06:30 PM (PCK5/)

Do you really think the Judge would have the cojones to put Trump in Jail?

I don't. This is all about getting him to agree to self censor during an election... so they can bluster and whine when he says something.

I think they are bluffing....

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 21, 2023 06:32 PM (oHd/0)

50 They will nail him on one of the restrictions

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2023 06:32 PM (MOY79)

51 38 Fuck you Ace.
Posted by: MikeN at August 21, 2023 06:30 PM (KoQEX)

"You have a remarkable economy of words, Gloria."

- - Hobson

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2023 06:32 PM (x0n13)

52 Well Ace, what's the deal? Was it Bob Barr or Bill Barr?

Posted by: SFGoth at August 21, 2023 06:32 PM (KAi1n)

53 And if Trump is behind in the polls -- and I think he will be, even against Biden, and 8-10 points behind Gavin Newsom, the more likely candidate

the important thing about polls is who is doing the counting
Posted by: stuff stalin said

____

I love that Trump worships polls now, especially since all the polls had him losing in 2020. Go look at RCP, final numbers were eerily close to their average polling. Tenths of a point off.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 06:32 PM (cOFom)

54 What will happen with Trump in jail? You know he can't keep his mouth shut. Does he think we will all storm the castle for him? Americans are so apathetic they would have someone breath fir them if they could.

Posted by: Megthered at August 21, 2023 06:33 PM (93SOo)

55 Trump is not doing the debates because of the requirement to support whoever won the nomination.

Fuck that shit. Take your loyalty oath and shove it right the fuck up your ass GOP

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at August 21, 2023 06:33 PM (VTu1l)

56 I mean I can't take the claim, "At least Trump fights."

And loses. And loses. And loses. And loses. And loses. And loses. And loses.

But go off, I guess.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:33 PM (KRtlO)

57 And to a kinda childish hero-worship, homo erotic place?

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:26 PM (KRtlO)

————————

You keep saying things like this and I’ve yet to see it here. Twitter, sure, but not here.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 21, 2023 06:33 PM (u73oe)

58 It's clear Trump is going senile and he doesnt want people to see it.

Really?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 21, 2023 06:33 PM (NpWq6)

59 F* you Barr. If what Trump did was illegal then it was illegal when every Democrat since Gore did the same before. He didn't rob a f*ing bank. Check in with Biden on Bribery though, you might find some real high crimes and misdemeanors if you look into that skeevy POS.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 21, 2023 06:31 PM (fs1hN)

It is now an Insurrection to ask Congress to do their Constitutionally mandated duty... ie.. decide which slate of Electors to validate via the Electoral College.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 21, 2023 06:33 PM (oHd/0)

60
Per the link it is the fat bagpiper, not Bob Barr.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2023 06:33 PM (x0n13)

61
Some will be gone. It is the way.

/ Not responding.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 21, 2023 06:33 PM (enJYY)

62 >>> 45 >>>Do you believe that anything the commies will do to OrangeManBad, would be something they would refrain from doing to any other "R" candidate?

And here we return to the typical dumb argument that "everyone else has done all the stupid shit Trump has done, including paying off porn stars after fucking them"

This is like arguing that after the police sat on George Floyd's chest and Floyd died, "they could have done that to ANYBODY!"

Um, no, George Floyd was the kinda guy who courted that risk.

But do go on claiming Trump is a guy who behaves with highest ethics and judgment -- including showing classified documents to a media person while saying "I shouldn't be showing you this" -- so they can do this to "Anybody,"

They'll kill anybody, just like the killed prudent, law-abiding George Floyd
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:31 PM (KRtlO)

I did not claim anything of the sort; I made *no* claims about *Trump*. I made claims about the commies.

I'll come back for the ONT.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 21, 2023 06:33 PM (llON8)

63 >>>52 Well Ace, what's the deal? Was it Bob Barr or Bill Barr?

oh it was Bill barr, sorry, I didn't realize I'd typoed

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:34 PM (KRtlO)

64 I haven't seen anyone provide a legitimate reason why it is good strategy for Trump to debate - It's horrible strategy. And I want DeSantis so I'm going to whine about it isn't a strategy.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at August 21, 2023 06:34 PM (xaNfJ)

65 I expected voters to punish Abortion Mouse for refusing to stand before the public and present an accounting of herself; they didn't.
_______

Voters?

Posted by: Eeyore at August 21, 2023 06:34 PM (brAQZ)

66 Yeah sure his own actions.
Odd how all who came before crying of fraud elections they lost never did anything to jeopardize their freedom.

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2023 06:34 PM (MOY79)

67 DC wants Trump to run and lose. Think of all the moralizing they will get to do for the next thousand years. They want him.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 21, 2023 06:34 PM (Eeb9P)

68 I think Trump realizes he's the only candidate. Not so much because of anything he can or can't do or whether he goes to the get-togethers or not, but every question in the primaries and general will be "Are you also Trump, or do you reject Trump? And if you reject Trump, how can we be sure you aren't lying, because that's something Trump would also do, and you also seem to be Trump."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 06:34 PM (QsOFZ)

69 The coming election is about whether the WEF will completely run the country , or not. The personality aspects of it all are greasepaint and eyeliner on stage.

Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2023 06:34 PM (PCK5/)

70 >>>38 Fuck you Ace.
Posted by: MikeN

suck a dick, manlover

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:34 PM (KRtlO)

71 All we really have to try and drag Trump's carcass is "whatboutisms"

Hillary did things she shouldn't with classified material and didn't get charged!!! (Even though a cornerstone of Trump's campaign was that she was a criminal that belonged in prison for this offense)

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 06:34 PM (cOFom)

72 I'm pretty sure this is how Dems felt about Kerry 2004, or the guy who lost to Nixon...maybe even with Carter.

91 felony charges. Let's say the system is rigged. It is, at least partially. That means he will be convicted of some of these.

He will go to jail.

He will be spending all his donations on lawyers, too. No money to campaign. Once case has 11 million pages of documents, and a lawyer charges $500 per hour, and can read 80 pages an hour. That's $68 million dollars just to read the documents.

OK, so he wins the presidency. He can't pardon himself for GA crimes. He also has to keep spending on lawyers...do you think he will pay himself? Nope.

This why I think to help Trump, its better if he doesn't run.

If he doesn't run Kemp can pardon him.
I hope Trump didn't piss off Brian Kemp.
(again you can fume about this, and I think GA GOP are kinda assholes but...facts is facts.)

And then if someone else could win the presidency they can pardon him, too.

NY...eh, its the weakest case.

Or Trump can push all donations to lawyers, which he has been doing. And around the time the primaries are over his supporters will figure it out - he's going down for some counts. Fair or not.

Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 06:35 PM (Cg63x)

73 Tenths of a point off.

**************

You really like to spout a lot of anti trump bullshit nonsense, day in and day out, every day, don’t you?

Pick another song, fuckhead

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at August 21, 2023 06:35 PM (VTu1l)

74 It is now an Insurrection to ask Congress to do their Constitutionally mandated duty... ie.. decide which slate of Electors to validate via the Electoral College.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 21, 2023 06:33 PM (oHd/0)

What matters is the intent behind the request.

Posted by: James "Clean Cop" Comey at August 21, 2023 06:35 PM (guGkK)

75 Well I can see a reasoned, rational discussion of Trump's strengths and weaknesses is not going to happen here. Though it is nice to see Ace in the comments.

Gonna go walk the dog and tinker with the striker on my Rossi.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 21, 2023 06:35 PM (xcxpd)

76 I predict this thread will go downhill very fast. I think I'll go continue the book I was reading on John Witherspoon, the minister who signed the Declaration of Independence.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 21, 2023 06:35 PM (NpWq6)

77 With 91 indictments there is no way Trump stays out of prison.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2023 06:35 PM (NpAcC)

78 @ace: "Which could be construed by an anti-Trump kangaroo court ..."

Remember, when Trump tweeted he wouldn't be going to Biden's inauguration, Twitter construed that as "glorification of violence" that justified his permaban from the platform.

Glorification because: 1. Statement could be seen as disavowing the election results and traditional orderly transition of power; 2. Suggested that the inauguration was a "safe" target because he wouldn't be there.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 21, 2023 06:36 PM (k1Qly)

79 >>>I did not claim anything of the sort; I made *no* claims about *Trump*. I made claims about the commies.

Implicit in this claim is the suggestion that they can do this to "anybody." This claim is always made to suggest that it's just as easy to get any of Trump's rivals as to get Trump.

That's false, and I'm tired of having to point this out.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:36 PM (KRtlO)

80 But certainly he stepped right on up to that line...

Pole vault that mofo line!

Make a campaign promise to go balls to the wall after of violators of civil rights such as free speech, religion, search, etc. Before, during, and after the fact and make it clear that prosecutors, judges, and juries will not be exempt.

They will all know what he is talkingabout and what will thye do?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 21, 2023 06:36 PM (ga8qR)

81 I predict this thread will go downhill very fast. I think I'll go continue the book I was reading on John Witherspoon, the minister who signed the Declaration of Independence.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 21, 2023 06:35 PM (NpWq6)

The piano player has already left for the evening.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 21, 2023 06:36 PM (guGkK)

82 The idea that Trump doesn’t need to have a job interview with primary voters is BS. Yes, he did good things as president. Yes, he is being illegally persecuted by a deep-state coup. But you still have to make your case.

Add this to his age and the limitation to a single term, and to his having failed to learn anything from his presidency, as being among the reasons why I’m wide open to someone else making the case. (But the still have to make it.)

Posted by: SMFH at August 21, 2023 06:36 PM (L7Tc9)

83 Bob, Bill, whatever it takes.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2023 06:36 PM (4I/2K)

84 suck a dick, manlover

*******

Wait I’m confused, do these strictly include man dicks or trans woman dicks too?

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at August 21, 2023 06:37 PM (VTu1l)

85 "I predict this thread will go downhill very fast. I think I'll go continue the book I was reading"

I'm gonna lurk this to the end! Spicy.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at August 21, 2023 06:37 PM (MvF+J)

86 Looks like Meatball Don really stepped in it this time.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2023 06:37 PM (sfZQz)

87 The reason why what Bill Barr says is newsworthy?

Trump was dumb enough to appoint his corrupt, Ruby-Ridge-complicit ass to begin with.

What the fuck was he expecting?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at August 21, 2023 06:37 PM (gHSfI)

88 Mark Steyn had a great post this morning about the divide between Republican voters and the GOP.

…the base is trying to tell the worthless GOP establishment something important here:

“We don’t think this is a normal election, and we can’t see the point of pretending that it is.”

…[while] the American right still talks about the justice system and the election campaign as if either term means what it does in functioning societies… in my experience of Third World crapholes, you don’t start criminalizing your political opposition unless you’ve already decided there aren’t going to be any election-night surprises.

These are not normal times: in the years ahead, ever greater corruption… will be necessary to constrain the people’s choices to the shriveled offerings of the Uniparty. So, if you reckon it’s bad now, wait till next time. GOP primary voters seem to get that at least.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 21, 2023 06:37 PM (EXyHK)

89 77 With 91 indictments there is no way Trump stays out of prison.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2023 06:35 PM (NpAcC)

So the system has won... the Uni State rules.. and we are done.

OK then...

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 21, 2023 06:37 PM (oHd/0)

90 >>>Wait I’m confused, do these strictly include man dicks or trans woman dicks too?

well obviously it's okay to s*** a feminine penis, i thought that was obvious

Do better, unmasked ranger. Do better.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:37 PM (KRtlO)

91 Ace is upset little Ronnie is doing so bad, so upset he gives Barr some props and questions if President Trump crossed the line

Get off the pipe, you are nuts or stoned

Posted by: Gonzotx at August 21, 2023 06:38 PM (1UtCd)

92 Yeah sure his own actions.
Odd how all who came before crying of fraud elections they lost never did anything to jeopardize their freedom.
Posted by: Skip

--

The part that is still fairly mind-blowing to me is that this is without a doubt the most questionable election of my lifetime, and the door was slammed shut on audits and anything that would allow the (D)s to spike the football with their massive win. July 2021:

"NC election officials won’t let GOP lawmakers inspect voting machines. Here’s why."

https://tinyurl.com/27d48jv8

As another moron pointed out, if you can be charged for saying the election was fraudulent, then the election was fraudulent.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 06:38 PM (QsOFZ)

93 Large tracts of land.

Posted by: Bosk of Port Kar at August 21, 2023 06:38 PM (VMFAF)

94 America is ending, and not gracefully.

..

Bottom of the 9th we're down bigly and the bullpen isn't even bothering to warm up.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at August 21, 2023 06:38 PM (7F/YZ)

95 Ace you can't be serious with this hand wringing about the debates. As if something Trump tweeted or "truthed" is going to make a difference when Biden's team is deciding whether to debate? If Biden's handlers feel like they can reanimate his corpse for 3 hours, he will show up. If not, then not.

The debate system was finally busted in the last cycle when moderators started openly helping the D candidate. Now the new tactic, as evidenced by Trump's CNN interview, will be to jump in the debate like some kind of avatar of Zeus to announce the R candidate's opinions are "wrong." Maybe we should get a real moderator once, just once, instead of propping up this fiction of decorum?

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2023 06:38 PM (3TW6j)

96 I wonder if somehow Trump is DQ'd for whatever, and the primary voters fall in love with Ramaswamy (work with me here). My guess is, like Merloni of Italy, he talks a good game, but will bow to the globalists. The free world leadership is down to Orban in Hungary and Bukele in El Salvador.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 21, 2023 06:38 PM (fs1hN)

97 Or he can somehow win the presidency, beat all 91 felonies, especially the GA state charges.

He should be very motivated, but that's a huge pressure on his funding, his time, etc.

And p.s. the Democrats want him to win.

So at least Trump has allies in the media and Democrats, but I repeat myself, who will make him the focus of all media.

Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 06:39 PM (Cg63x)

98 >>>24 Ted Cruz, not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

https://tinyurl.com/3ycd2hrh

At least when I make a fool of myself, I do it here so nobody important ever sees it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 21, 2023 06:26 PM (FVME7)

Has anyone seen ace and Cruz in the same room at the same time?

Posted by: Xander Crews at August 21, 2023 06:39 PM (MpOGS)

99 So.

Ace is back on the Hillary Train?

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2023 06:39 PM (FMGPM)

100 no way Trump stays out of prison.

It'll be a yuge cell.
He can fly AF1 in to serve weekends.

Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2023 06:39 PM (FhXTo)

101 The majority remain paralyzed by the cultural pressure points. They are telling you that you can't resist which means they are afraid. Amazing.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 21, 2023 06:40 PM (oWBc3)

102
So, how do we differentiate Trump the candidate between Trump the political martyr?

Does defending the latter instantly earn scorn because it cannot be separated from endorsement of the former?

I support the man to the hilt for what is being done to him. And to support or not support his candidacy is irrelevant since the game is rigged or we have to assume it is rigged.

We're debating the wrong issue, I think. And that doesn't mean that I don't cringe at some of the things Trump is doing and saying now.

Ugh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2023 06:40 PM (x0n13)

103 It is now an Insurrection to ask Congress to do their Constitutionally mandated duty... ie.. decide which slate of Electors to validate via the Electoral College.
Posted by: Romeo13

--

That thing you can read in the Constitution that is very clear about who is in charge of elections doesn't mean what you think it means, dummy. You're not a biologist, you know. Sorry, Supreme Court Justice.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 06:40 PM (QsOFZ)

104 But do go on claiming Trump is a guy who behaves with highest ethics and judgment -- including showing classified documents to a media person while saying "I shouldn't be showing you this" -- so they can do this to "Anybody,"

-
Trump colors outside the lines but he's Goody Two Shoes compared to Biden and virtually any other Donk.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 21, 2023 06:40 PM (FVME7)

105 Implicit in this claim is the suggestion that they can do this to "anybody."

********

I think the whole point of this exercise in tyranny is being able to do this to anybody

They literally had to invent weird legal theories and criminalize first speech to create these indictments

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at August 21, 2023 06:40 PM (VTu1l)

106 As to Barr? He's the one who oversaw the entire Justice department special investigation into Trump Russia collusion, and yet never seemed to find out it was all a PLOT OF THE DEMOCRATS.

Barr was in on it since Day One.
He sole function was to protect DoJ and screww Trump.
He is still working on the later... fvcking eh, "Insurrection"?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 21, 2023 06:41 PM (ga8qR)

107 Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 06:35 PM (Cg63x)

---

I was told that under GA law, the gov can't pardon. Some commission or something, but not da Gov.

Posted by: jc at August 21, 2023 06:41 PM (N1WXz)

108 >>Ted Cruz, not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

In his defense, there was a Porn Starlet stuck in a couch.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2023 06:41 PM (FMGPM)

109 They will announce the winners like a frat announcing the new pledge class.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 21, 2023 06:41 PM (Eeb9P)

110 I’d rather be full sails behind Trump at this point and focus on the general. I don’t see anyone catching Trump, the best they can hope for, and it’s a disgusting hope, is that he goes to prison.

DeSantis is done. Ramaswamy is interesting, but, has no chance and the rest are non-factors.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 06:41 PM (4U+62)

111 ace, did you see this? (another moron originally linked it)

"Is this why Brian Kemp of Georgia refuses to investigate the 2020 election?

He had a debt of $7 million before becoming Georgia's Governor. And according to Travis Tritt, that debt got cleared after he brought Dominion Voting Systems into the state in 2019."

https://tinyurl.com/284g6saz

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 06:42 PM (QsOFZ)

112 I can’t say with 100% certainty but I get this weird feeling Ace is not vibing on Trump, as the kids would say.

Posted by: Montec at August 21, 2023 06:42 PM (2MNmu)

113 well obviously it's okay to s*** a feminine penis, i thought that was obvious

Do better, unmasked ranger. Do better.

******

I’m all for inclusivity but feminine dicks is a bridge too far for me

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at August 21, 2023 06:42 PM (VTu1l)

114 >>Barr was in on it since Day One.
He sole function was to protect DoJ and screww Trump.

You forgot:

'Clean up that Epstein Mess'

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2023 06:42 PM (FMGPM)

115 I think a lot of it boils down to hope. People want to believe that the country is salvageable, that polls can still be reliable, that voting still can set the course for the country, and that reasoned discourse will win out. The further hope drifts away from people, the angrier they become. For some that anger is directed towards Trump: “If only he were smarter, more disciplined, etc.” They want to believe that it’s not over, so they blame Trump. For others, their anger is directed towards the State: “We can’t let them get away with what they’re doing to Trump.” They want to believe that if Trump can prevail then there is hope for the country. The bottom line, though, is that it’s over, our country has ended as we knew it. The best we can do is try to shore up our local and state governments and hang on. But the question of whether you support Trump or not is irrelevant at this point, barring some miracle cure of the election fixing in our large cities.

Posted by: Nightowl at August 21, 2023 06:42 PM (tgTrV)

116 "So the system has won... the Uni State rules.. and we are done.

OK then..."

Yes, I am also highly perturbed about this shit, too.

Its getting crazier and crazier.

If DOJ had gone after Hunter and Joe, we could all say "well the system is tough but fair"

NOPE

Instead we get to see how biased it is.

But something we consider: life isn't fair, and the good guys don't always win.

Want to fix DOJ?

Trump ran it for 4 years but they backstabbed him endlessly. I personally suggest we try a lawyer this time, who is experienced with bureaucracy and how to tame it. But....I get it.

Trump win would feel really good.

Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 06:42 PM (Cg63x)

117 Implicit in this claim is the suggestion that they can do this to "anybody." This claim is always made to suggest that it's just as easy to get any of Trump's rivals as to get Trump.

That's false, and I'm tired of having to point this out.
Posted by: ace
___

Especially since they have no other cases to point to in the past that are direct parallels.

Trump could have sidestepped all of this if he had half a brain and listened to some of his lawyers.

I still dont understand why when the top attorney (that Trump hand picked) didn't at the very least pardon himself when he said they are going to run you through the legal wringer.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 06:42 PM (cOFom)

118 The only problem I have with dumping Trump due to his legal woes is that I'm not at all convinced that the Democrats and the Department of Justice (but I repeat myself) won't just swing their aim over to the next Republican candidate and start up the same smear 'n indict crap all over again.

With this crew of wanna-be commissars and Stalin fan bois running around unchecked, I just can't buy into trusting them to not just do it to the next guy or gal.

Because, after all, as Dingy Harry Reid explained, "It worked, didn't it?"

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at August 21, 2023 06:43 PM (a9CYf)

119 Do any of you posting actually come back and read what you puked up? ...stop - I already know.

Posted by: Rex Mundi at August 21, 2023 06:43 PM (coZYD)

120
I saw Manlover open for Loverboy at the Spectrum in '81.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2023 06:43 PM (x0n13)

121 I am content to watch and wait.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2023 06:44 PM (lhXI3)

122 Trump should withdraw and declare he is just a lightning rod. The good guys win and he is free, the good guys lose and Joan of Arc has company. Time to go all in Donnie, and , very importantly, conservative America. Guessing we fold.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 21, 2023 06:44 PM (oWBc3)

123 I can’t say with 100% certainty but I get this weird feeling Ace is not vibing on Trump, as the kids would say.

********

I support Trump but I also wish he wouldn’t do those things that sets ace in a foaming rage either

The name calling is so 2016

Some of his attacks on DeSantis are simply wrong and just weird even in a primary campaign

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at August 21, 2023 06:44 PM (VTu1l)

124 FARTCLAM

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 21, 2023 06:44 PM (A1Hcp)

125 6 I mean I can't take the claim, "At least Trump fights."

And loses. And loses. And loses. And loses. And loses. And loses. And loses.

But go off, I guess.

Ace
——
Actually President Trump WON and IT WAS STOLEN

So
Show you do t get that

Posted by: Gonzotx at August 21, 2023 06:44 PM (1UtCd)

126 It's weird.

I wonder why there are no other recent similar past instances of presidents getting sideways with the government?

It's almost like we have to go back to Nixon to... Wait a minute.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 06:44 PM (QsOFZ)

127 Trump will pull his usual bullshit move and try to get better ratings that the people he's up against by doing an interview with Tucker Carlson.
===
Not a bullsh*t move but a masterstroke.

How is outshining the opposing candidates bullsh*t.

These "debates" aren't even debates. That's your bullsh*t, right there.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 21, 2023 06:44 PM (RIvkX)

128 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 06:42 PM (QsOFZ)

But DeSantis, or someone not named Trump, will totally be able to overcome and get MORE than 74MM votes!

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 06:44 PM (4U+62)

129 31 >>>This is the conservative worldview in a nutshell. The process is everything. But what if the process is broken?

that's a super-important question

but I guess my answer would be -- not an answer really, just a point to be considered -- is a flailing, failing effort that goes outside the usual boundaries helpful?

Even if we concede that the system is broken and that therefore Trump is justified in saying "fuck the system" -- is his particular way of doing so actually helping him? Or us?

Failing left and right is not a good tactic.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:28 PM (KRtlO)

Yes, it's important. And the historical conservative view has been that you'd need to be really sure - not just feel in your gut - that the system is irretrevably broken. And after that, can it be restored to a degree.

I wouldn't argue for "burn it down", however much I may feel that way. The French tried, that, and then the Russians. It doesn't end well.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 21, 2023 06:45 PM (brAQZ)

130 124 Concur.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at August 21, 2023 06:45 PM (MvF+J)

131 "or others, their anger is directed towards the State: “We can’t let them get away with what they’re doing to Trump.” They want to believe that if Trump can prevail then there is hope for the country."

Or...is there a guy who fucking took down Disney and knows how to run an executive branch that is willing to use slash and burn against bureaucracy?

Cuz I think that's the guy who would clean house.

I still think it might not matter.

Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 06:45 PM (Cg63x)

132 The Tucker ratings are going to be the best ratings he’s ever had. Big beautiful incredible stupendous magnificent ratings. You won’t believe how incredible it will be.

Posted by: Montec at August 21, 2023 06:45 PM (2MNmu)

133 Trump should withdraw and declare he is just a lightning rod. The good guys win...

--

The main problem being the non-Trump Good Guy's 52M votes are never going to beat Biden, Newsome, etc.'s 80M+

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 06:46 PM (QsOFZ)

134 After seeing what happened to the J6's I think the 19 defendants that are now being charged know that Trump will not and can not save them.

"Mark Meadows told investigators he had no knowledge of Donald Trump either talking about or declassifying confidential information, it was reported on Sunday,"

https://tinyurl.com/55ycy777

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2023 06:46 PM (NpAcC)

135 "Tiptoed up to the line"?

"Stepped on the line"?

Bill fucking Barr quoted unironically?

Jfc dude.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 06:46 PM (jQ/PM)

136 This election cycle is not getting better.

Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2023 06:46 PM (dWjpk)

137 Why should Trump participate in debates that will be slanted heavily against him just like they were in 2016? For pull quotes and fake setup "gotcha" moments for the media to play over and over? Like Mike Pence lecturing him with obvious focus grouped bullshit?

Why should he? Comity and good will? What comity and good will has he gotten from his so-called competitors?

As I keep noting, everyone including detractors seemingly wants Trump to be a "revolutionary" or something but the *moment* he ever does something unusual - that we have begged candidates to do for the last two decades - people seem to require their couch and salts.

And as ace noted Democrats certainly don't need Trump to do something first for their excuses to do it too. In fact *they* keep doing the things first.

Posted by: ... at August 21, 2023 06:47 PM (lX8VI)

138 >>>So, how do we differentiate Trump the candidate between Trump the political martyr?
Does defending the latter instantly earn scorn because it cannot be separated from endorsement of the former?
I support the man to the hilt for what is being done to him. And to support or not support his candidacy is irrelevant since the game is rigged or we have to assume it is rigged.

I guarantee you when we lose in 2024 you will not feel as if it's irrelevant.

I think there is the idea that we should run trump so when he loses -- for the fourth time -- we will prove our thesis that America is dead .

And then what? Do people thnk there will be a mass movement to vindicate trump? Like an uprising? An actual revolutionary movement?

That will not happen. Trump is not popular enough with enough people to stir an uprising.

He is very popular with 36% of the public and deeply unpopular with the rest. This idea lurking in some people's heads that by losing with Trump we will really "win" by sweeping the old order away is just wrong.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:47 PM (KRtlO)

139 The Tucker ratings are going to be the best ratings he’s ever had. Big beautiful incredible stupendous magnificent ratings. You won’t believe how incredible it will be.
Posted by: Montec at August 21, 2023 06:45 PM (2MNmu)

They absolutely will. Absolutely.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 06:47 PM (jQ/PM)

140 @133, and then...we go forward and types deletes. You have to have a starting point.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 21, 2023 06:48 PM (oWBc3)

141 Debates aren’t really debates anyway. They are talking point generators with nonsensical questions by biased moderators. We’d be better off without them.

Posted by: Montec at August 21, 2023 06:48 PM (2MNmu)

142 Trump should pay the price for his terrible document crimes.

Posted by: Sandy Burglar at August 21, 2023 06:48 PM (vdlDY)

143 Bill Barr is a cvnt

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2023 06:48 PM (4x/Ag)

144 I keep hearing that independents will not vote for PDT but it looks like they aren' t supporting DeSantis either

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2023 06:48 PM (lhXI3)

145 It's adorable y'all think we have a legitimate free election system.
Posted by: Mooby Diick at August 21, 2023 06:27 PM (TIWfG)

It is painful to watch and read this infantilism now. I've largely withdrawn from doing so. We live in a horrible police state, and worrying about who is up or down in Iowa is beyond childish.

But, Putin.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 21, 2023 06:48 PM (KSNKu)

146 These "debates" aren't even debates. That's your bullsh*t, right there.

*********
What do you mean, I for one am riveted to see what Nikki Haley and 30 Pence has to say

Riveted

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxxed Ranger at August 21, 2023 06:49 PM (VTu1l)

147 You forgot:

'Clean up that Epstein Mess'
Posted by: garrett

Like, with a rag?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 21, 2023 06:49 PM (ga8qR)

148 The Deep State won't let Trump win.

At this point your best bet is to nominate someone the Deep State might let win.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2023 06:49 PM (sfZQz)

149 any hope of a sweeping the old order away by force under a Trump banner was killed when Trump turned his back on the J6 protesters like he inevitably discards all people that become briefly inconvenient to him.

he will not be able to "summon the bannermen" like they do in Game of Thrones. If you burn your bannermen once, they're gone.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:49 PM (KRtlO)

150 A rational person has pretty much concluded that a majority of elections in the USA have been rigged for the Demoncrats.

LA County AG Gascon - rigged against a popular, black, female, no nonsense Jackie Lacey, incumbent.

AZ Govenor - rigged, with multiple methods of evidence.

2020 President - so many methods, most exposed, cowards everywhere in judicial and legislative systems.

This will not end well.

Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at August 21, 2023 06:49 PM (BtNlB)

151 I have never forgiven Trump for stupidly prompting the two year Russia investigation by the (R)s in the Senate.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 06:49 PM (QsOFZ)

152 I do wonder, does Trump have any fear of prison? I know to his this is all a giant game, but I would say it's more likely that not he does spend his last years in a prison.

They've been batting close to a 1000 on these convictions. Cases Trump handed to them on a silver platter because he didn't want to hurt his reputation by throwing out some last minute pardons.

The idea he beats all of the cases with his worthless attorneys that look like beauty pageant contestants is asinine (more examples of Trump not learning his lessons on who to hire)

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 06:50 PM (cOFom)

153 That will not happen. Trump is not popular enough with enough people to stir an uprising.

He is very popular with 36% of the public and deeply unpopular with the rest. This idea lurking in some people's heads that by losing with Trump we will really "win" by sweeping the old order away is just wrong.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:47 PM (KRtlO)
*****
If Trump is the nominee I am definitely voting for him, but what you posted is the reality of the situation.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2023 06:50 PM (NpAcC)

154 So did Joe buy everybody in Lahaina a shave ice today?

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2023 06:50 PM (v0R5T)

155 Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:47 PM (KRtlO)

So you really think DeSantis can get more than 74MM votes

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 06:50 PM (4U+62)

156 10k + a year is what the Biden Presidency is costing the avg American Household.

It's closer to $12k...and will certainly be 12+ come Election Day 2024.

Any Republican Candidate will pull from Independents and the Dem Base with that track record.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2023 06:50 PM (FMGPM)

157 122 Trump should withdraw and declare he is just a lightning rod. The good guys win and he is free, the good guys lose and Joan of Arc has company. Time to go all in Donnie, and , very importantly, conservative America. Guessing we fold.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 21, 2023 06:44 PM (oWBc3)

Even if Trump said he would stop running, the Prosecutions would continue... and probably increase.

He is the Lady riding the Tiger...

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 21, 2023 06:50 PM (oHd/0)

158 My view is it’s all for naught. Doesn’t matter who it is, Biden will win. And I think legitimately. Too many here refuse to understand the country they live in is not what it was 20 years ago, let alone 50 years ago. We are an ever shrinking minority.

Posted by: Montec at August 21, 2023 06:51 PM (2MNmu)

159 The forms, habits, and practices of democracy are worth keeping, but I guess that now, like the Constitution, that was all like a hundred years ago, man.
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I agree with you, Ace, but it wasn't Trump that threw all this shit out the fucking window. To be clear, he didn't help, but the idea that Trump being at a GOP primary debate would lend it legitimacy and that we would be preserving our norms is kinda silly...and further that the Democrats give half a tinker's damn about anything vaguely resembling our norms, lol.

It's all pure will to power and barrel-of-crabs in politics now. What does Trump, the GOP writ large, GOP voters, or the United States have to gain by Trump having what's sure to be a really mature and well-reasoned tete-a-tete with Chris Christie while Mike Pence stands there pretending that he's never had a penis in his face?

Posted by: ballistic at August 21, 2023 06:51 PM (oXNqT)

160 Poll question:

If Trump loses in 2024, is everyone on the Trump '28 Train?

Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 06:51 PM (Cg63x)

161 Paki reactors feel Oliver Anthony's pain...which is really the global underclass pain. And the underclass is anyone who is not an elite:

https://tinyurl.com/k4jrh5du

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2023 06:51 PM (4x/Ag)

162 First, kill all the lawyers.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 21, 2023 06:52 PM (/UtnQ)

163 153 Concur.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at August 21, 2023 06:52 PM (MvF+J)

164 As Rush Limbaugh used to say, polls are not to show public opinion, they are to SHAPE public opinion I really miss him.

Posted by: Chillin the most at August 21, 2023 06:52 PM (0uQp2)

165 What if Trump refuses to pay bail?

And, how quickly is this going to be moved to Federal court?

Posted by: Ann at August 21, 2023 06:52 PM (4neFu)

166 But DeSantis, or someone not named Trump, will totally be able to overcome and get MORE than 74MM votes!

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One

With home insurance doubling in Florida last year and again this year if, IF, DeSantis gets the nom he might not even win Florida.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 21, 2023 06:52 PM (ga8qR)

167
I don't anticipate any actual Presidential elections in the future. The last one was in 2016. Everything after that is a sham.

A question remains: given that control the outcome of elections going forward, why is the Uniparty so obsessed with getting Trump into court on charges, any charges, flimsy, ridiculous, doesn't matter.

The usual answers are either, they want to make him the candidate to put on a big show of making him lose, or, they fear their control is not necessarily sufficient to ensure the outcome.

Maybe it's just another Big Shit Psyop to distract public attention from other things they are up
to, like the UFO psyop is.

T

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 21, 2023 06:52 PM (FPgfB)

168 He is very popular with 36% of the public and deeply unpopular with the rest. This idea lurking in some people's heads that by losing with Trump we will really "win" by sweeping the old order away is just wrong.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:47 PM (KRtlO)

This is contrary to reality. It is goofy. Silly. Ridiculous.

It's why I just assume anti-DJT ppl are privy to information the rest of us aren't.

As in, they've been told things in private about DJT that make them either believe he actually is what the never-DJTers and neolibs say or that the fix is so in they want to avoid the losing side.

Because the anti-DJT position as stated is just devoid of content and reasoning.

It just sounds like people playing pretend.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 06:53 PM (jQ/PM)

169 President Trump should record a nice healthy fart after a few taco bowls and anytime the criminals in Jawja want a response he should play it on his phone.

Over and over again.

Brrrrrraaaaaappppp!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2023 06:53 PM (R/m4+)

170 >>My view is it’s all for naught. Doesn’t matter who it is, Biden will win. And I think legitimately.

It's certainly uninformed.

It is impossible that a Dem can win Legitimately.
They always cheat and steal. It's their nature.

Even when not required. It is who they are.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2023 06:54 PM (FMGPM)

171
He is very popular with 36% of the public and deeply unpopular with the rest. This idea lurking in some people's heads that by losing with Trump we will really "win" by sweeping the old order away is just wrong.

Posted by: ace
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Even the Trump supporters here will tell you it's rigged and Trump will lose again.

It's a "black pill" play nominating Trump again and hoping it somehow inspires a revolution. Of course, a revolution they hope someone else does for them. They aren't going to grab a rifle and do it.

But if we're going with the idea that the last 2 elections were stolen, why does a third one suddenly bring the point home? What will change?

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 06:54 PM (cOFom)

172 Trump is an arrogant jerk but if he's the nominee I'll vote for him. Basically to paraphrase FDR he's our arrogant jerk. His naivete about what imperial DC involved caused him to get rolled by the deep state the first time . He should have gone in and fired every political appointee in the government but he thought he could bend DC to his will. Hopefully, and I me that in the best way, he's learned a lesson and goes in if elected with metaphorical guns blazing.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 21, 2023 06:55 PM (BqPUE)

173 Trump is a hand grenade that I rolled inside the DC TOC. Since they've established they will bring the whole Uniparty together to destroy anyone who will upset the applecart, I'd just as soon that be Trump again, as DeSantis is needed in Florida.
So, it's not a cult for me. I'm just projecting forces as appropriate to the task. America as we knew it is deader than fried chicken. We live in a corrupt oligarchy, which is quickly becoming a tyranny. Nobody outside the body is going to get elected ever again, until this crap is brought to an end by outside forces. No sense getting all worked up and in each others face about it, we are eventually all going to need each other.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at August 21, 2023 06:55 PM (k6uu5)

174 If Trump loses in 2024, is everyone on the Trump '28 Train?
Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 06:51 PM (Cg63x)

"Loses"? By which they cheated him again? Hell yes. More so.

"Loses" as in is honestly defeated by Biden? Lmao ok lunatic.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 06:55 PM (jQ/PM)

175 Voting for Trump? People actually are voting? In seriousness, vote local religiously, vote your state if inclined, otherwise forget it.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 21, 2023 06:55 PM (oWBc3)

176 15 Barr responded, "Well, even if he did -- and I'm dubious about that -- but even if he did, that doesn't mean you can use illegal meaning to rectify it. If you think the bank is unfairly keeping your money, there are many things you can do to get it back; You can't go and rob the bank."

This is the conservative worldview in a nutshell. The process is everything. But what if the process is broken?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 21, 2023 06:25 PM (ppBhU)

——————

Before the election it was all “you’ve suffered no harm because there hasn’t been an election yet”

After the election it was all “no standing, point is moot, lack of evidence.”

I think Trump filed somewhere around 50 cases in court. Every judge rejected the court filings even when there were eye witness affidavits.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 21, 2023 06:55 PM (l312u)

177 If Trump gave, for example, early sweeping support to J6, financial and otherwise, and inevitably included in it the actual criminals involved like antifa or other setup people, the prosecution against him for "it" would be far stronger and we'd be endlessly lectured about how Trump doesn't know how to keep his stupid mouth shut.

Trump is the ONLY candidate who doesn't give a fuck enough to pardon every fucking one who deserves it on Day 1. Not one other Repuke will. No way. It's something Trump clearly couldn't do in 10 days before anyone had even been rounded up, and it was still all a fog stocked with setups and actual terrorists. You can't just say I pardon only the innocent people or only the real conservatives.

Posted by: ... at August 21, 2023 06:55 PM (lX8VI)

178 Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 06:53 PM (jQ/PM)

99% of the Left hate him and 25% of the Right hate him. That's about 36% .

Posted by: polynikes at August 21, 2023 06:56 PM (96Vq0)

179 Poll question:

If Trump loses in 2024, is everyone on the Trump '28 Train?
Posted by: Harun
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He'll run until he dies. Trump has been running since the early 1980's for President.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 06:56 PM (cOFom)

180 America is ending, and not gracefully.
........

Don't worry. Asa will save us.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2023 06:56 PM (v0R5T)

181 I've never seen anyone here suggesting 2024 is a catalyst for violent revolution.

Name names.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 06:56 PM (QsOFZ)

182 "With home insurance doubling in Florida last year and again this year if, IF, DeSantis gets the nom he might not even win Florida."

California just had State Farm stop issuing new insurance policies for homes.

This is not just a FL thing.

Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 06:57 PM (Cg63x)

183 99% of the Left hate him and 25% of the Right hate him. That's about 36% .
Posted by: polynikes
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Don't forget he loses independents also.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 06:57 PM (cOFom)

184 I’ll be voting for Trump. Y’all vote for whoever you want. I don’t care.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 21, 2023 06:57 PM (u73oe)

185 PDT being on the debate stage with GOPe pretenders gives those uniparty cretins undeserved credibility.

As for Barr's statement, he sounds like a deep state enforcer warning of consequences should PDT continue to challenge the state. Only an apparatchik like Barr can get away with saying something like that.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 21, 2023 06:57 PM (2YtOq)

186 Kangaroo Courts ate always Rigged from judge, prosecution and jury

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2023 06:57 PM (MOY79)

187 The Secret Service is going to deliver Trump to the Fulton County Jail.

When Trump says anything it will be ruled witness intimidation.

Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2023 06:57 PM (dWjpk)

188 Next we'll hear that candidate quality matters.

Posted by: WOPR at August 21, 2023 06:57 PM (WFJRS)

189 That's not how The Donald rolls. He's fucked. He's fucking himself, day by day. It's been odd, watching a cat that had the pulse of the nation for four years, immediately lose the pulse twelve hours after a rigged election, and shoot himself in the cock ever since. But here we are.
Posted by: Common Sense at August 21, 2023 06:56 PM (uN0OT)
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Yep, eventually the bear says "You don't come here for the hunting, do you?"

Posted by: ballistic at August 21, 2023 06:57 PM (oXNqT)

190 >>>So you really think DeSantis can get more than 74MM votes

yes and he will not stir millions and millions of hate votes

Also: Democrats cheated in 2020. They justified this to themselves by saying, "Buh Trump."

To cheat like that with DeSantis, they will have to face themselves and just admit that they're soviets, and do not intend to ever permit a fair vote again.

Will they flinch from that? Doubtful. But I know for a fact they won't flinch from doing it with Trump -- again.

And let's be serious, they were rigging the election for a fucking year but Trump is too busy reading twitter to bother to file lawsuits BEFORE the election. So then after it, he goes into kid-who-spent-the-whole-semester-getting-high mode, overdrive.

Sometimes being smart and in control and on top of things can actually be a *good* thing.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:57 PM (KRtlO)

191 But DeSantis, or someone not named Trump, will totally be able to overcome and get MORE than 74MM votes!

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One

If nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 21, 2023 06:58 PM (FVME7)

192 Should be higher because.

"TRUMPS BREATH STIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINKS" !!

Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at August 21, 2023 06:58 PM (y9QBQ)

193 But if we're going with the idea that the last 2 elections were stolen, why does a third one suddenly bring the point home? What will change?

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 06:54 PM (cOFom)

He lost in 2020 but magically he will win in 2024. And even though he made nothing but atrocious appointments the first time all his people will be the best most incredible people the second time around. And he’ll totally drain the swamp too. And build a wall. Swearsies.

Posted by: Montec at August 21, 2023 06:58 PM (2MNmu)

194 I sure hope Tucker Carlson is up to the task of quizzing Trump seriously about his record and his failures and what plan he has to correct those going forward (spoiler: there is no plan), because Trump is attempting to run without answering any questions about these things.

I know he sat for an interview with CNN but liberal outfits do not ask questions about conservative priorities, only about leftwing priorities.

Posted by: Ace at 07:18 PM

Wow, some people really can't get over the fact their (self-proclaimed) Debate Club Champion crashed and burned before ever setting foot in the public eye. I saw that coming a mile off, but I really didn't think Fox News would be stupid enough to try hosting a Trump-less debate after what happened eight years ago.

I'd welcome Tucker treating the interview like a hostile interrogation. What most of the Vichy GOP doesn't get is that the GOP base regards four years of Trump as incredibly based, even compared to Reagan. Can Tucker admit the successes of the Trump administration while pushing Trump right? I doubt it.

And Trump has an easy counter- why give tongue baths to Vivec and RFK if this is your real style?

Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2023 06:58 PM (QFXZG)

195 I think the best move he could make here is to not post bond. Going to jail over these ridiculous charges, pre-trial, is a media coup.

Go to jail for a week, then post bond. Get the free news cycles, the media wondering if the charges warrant even a trial, the martyrdom. I would expect it him to go to jail.

And when he does, the prosecutor's orgasms will surely shine a bad light on the case.

Posted by: thesgm at August 21, 2023 06:59 PM (H1P4c)

196 Covid is coming up again, more mail in ballots, pallets of ballots, unverified, unchecked, nothing has changed. Another pipe will break at 10pm.
The House will flip in 2024, ending all the nasty investigations, except those investigating the GOP.
The election is already decided, imho.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 21, 2023 06:59 PM (MeG8a)

197 Barr always was a Deep Stater, he ground down anything against the Deep State

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2023 06:59 PM (MOY79)

198 As for Barr's statement, he sounds like a deep state enforcer warning of consequences should PDT continue to challenge the state. Only an apparatchik like Barr can get away with saying something like that.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker
_____

Why did Trump appoint so many Deep Staters?

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:00 PM (cOFom)

199 >>>Trump is the ONLY candidate who doesn't give a fuck enough to pardon every fucking one who deserves it on Day 1. Not one other Repuke will.

Trump did not give a dime to the J6 legal defense until Julie Kelly embarrassed him about it to his face, and then he gave...$10,000. For *all* of them.

give it up with the "Trump Balls of Steel" claim.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 07:00 PM (KRtlO)

200 Ace you are absolutely delusional if you think Ron DeSantis can get +74mil votes. It is silly. He's not a bad dude or a bad candidate but that is ridiculous.

What is the voting coalition?

He'd get maybe 50mil. Maybe. Possible.

DJT voters will write in DJT. Or just not vote. They aren't Republicans.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 07:01 PM (jQ/PM)

201 " They have Trump by the balls, the way this is going. He's a man that simply can not, will not, cut and run. He'll march up to every court room, in every state, in the biggest limo he can ride with the most luxurious interior ... and lose in every political show trial."

A huge problem is he can fundraise off this stuff.

But only if he's running for president.

I now think all the Kraken stuff after 2020 was all to fundraise off people. I think there may have been fraud, sure. But the key is they want to fundraise.

See also Russia Hoax, sure, it was a semi-successful political ploy, but Dems fundraised off it....

Its now a problem because everyone can fundraise off crazy shit.

Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 07:01 PM (Cg63x)

202 So you really think DeSantis can get more than 74MM votes

Part of why I'd rather see someone other than Trump is because I don't think 2024 is going to be as good to Trump as 2020 was. He at least had the presidency in hand then and a flawed but defensible record all things considered. He has not been very efffective politically post-presidency. His subsequent mistreatment energizes voters on the right. But there aren't enough of us for that to work beyond the primaries. All this legal nonsense is likely to turn off enough voters in the general election that the Dems really won't have to cheat. They will, but it will be unnecessary. Absent a complete economic meltdown between now and then, I think we are headed for a real shellacking, fair or not.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 21, 2023 07:01 PM (ppBhU)

203 Fulton County jail is under investigation by the DOJ for a inmate dying from bed bug bites

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2023 07:01 PM (MOY79)

204 *reads post*

*rubs face*

*sighs*

*goes to make dinner, and have a drink*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at August 21, 2023 07:01 PM (T/Lqj)

205 Ace's inability to understand why people are sticking by Trump is interesting. He doesn't understand that the majority of his supporters know the system is a crock. Therefore, they are going to stick the system with Trump again, flaws and all. But Ace is feeling vindicated about his Trump opposition in 2014 and he has to let it out now.

Posted by: WOPR at August 21, 2023 07:01 PM (WFJRS)

206 Trump is avoiding the debates because joeyshitzinpants cleaned his clock in a debate. Say what you will but we all saw a senile old man out-debate him.

Posted by: Artruen at August 21, 2023 07:02 PM (F8RBU)

207 "DJT voters will write in DJT. Or just not vote. They aren't Republicans."

What if Trump is in jail and voting for Desanctimonious is the only way to Trump pardoned?

So, you're saying Trump supporters prefer to see him in jail?

Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 07:02 PM (Cg63x)

208

That's not how The Donald rolls. He's fucked. He's fucking himself, day by day. It's been odd, watching a cat that had the pulse of the nation for four years, immediately lose the pulse twelve hours after a rigged election, and shoot himself in the cock ever since. But here we are.
Posted by: Common Sense at August 21, 2023 06:56 PM (uN0OT)

———-

Trump knows what’s up.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 21, 2023 07:02 PM (l312u)

209 To cheat like that with DeSantis, they will have to face themselves and just admit that they're soviets, and do not intend to ever permit a fair vote again.

--

We're watching Maui unfold as a complete failure at best or intentional act at worst of government at every level with 911 shut off, water shut off, alarms shut off, and streets blockaded in order for as many people as possible to die so that "Global Warming" can be blamed.

They're not concerned about the "they'll have to face themselves" sort of thing. We passed that exit years ago.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 07:02 PM (QsOFZ)

210 Willis etc al said any of DJT or cohorts will be handled just like any criminal in the system

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2023 07:02 PM (MOY79)

211 With home insurance doubling in Florida last year and again this year if, IF, DeSantis gets the nom he might not even win Florida.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 21, 2023 06:52 PM (ga8qR)

People are PISSED. I am not sure what DeSantis is supposed to do about it, but even before last November there were people in my ruby red area of Florida who were not voting for him due to this. The complaints have only gotten louder.

We have our upper limit on premium cost before we will "self insure," and we have that luxury because we do not have a mortgage. I feel so sorry for people who do have a mortgage and cannot do without home owner's insurance in Florida.

Posted by: Ann at August 21, 2023 07:02 PM (4neFu)

212 In December of 2020 I said Trump should take the helicopter from the White House on Inauguration Day to Dulles Airport and have his family get on his 757 and fly to the UAE.

Not because he had done anything wrong but because I knew this would happen- that this regime would hound him and jail him.

Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2023 07:03 PM (dWjpk)

213 Trump's Bond in Joke Fulton County Prosecution Set at $200,000; Forbidden to Engage in "Witness Intimidation"

If the Left and the Biden junta wore Communist Chinese military uniforms, would this be easier to understand that there is no United States of America and We The People have been conquered by an hostile occupying enemy force who play by their own "rules"?

Because it can't be made anymore clear that whining and pissing because this isn't America without taking up a musket is folly.

Next stop - One Thousand Years of Darkness

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 21, 2023 07:03 PM (p8A+W)

214 Covid is coming up again, more mail in ballots, pallets of ballots, unverified, unchecked, nothing has changed. Another pipe will break at 10pm.

Maybe they go Pol Pot this time and take all the deplorables to the fields... only a matter of time.

Meanwhile.... I am going to have a cigar.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 21, 2023 07:03 PM (ga8qR)

215 So you really think DeSantis can get more than 74MM votes

yes and he will not stir millions and millions of hate votes

ace
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Dear Lord you really forget what the media is like. They made Palin,, who had like 95% approval as governor into a Christofascist racist witch with a white trash family who was corrupt, scary "a heartbeat away", and wanted to ban Harry Potter.

Every magazine, channel, TV show and website on the planet will be all in. DeSantis will be a secretly gay homophobic child molesting fascist book banning corrupt serial rapist and that's just on Day 1. They will have no trouble making people hate and fear *anyone*.

Posted by: ... at August 21, 2023 07:03 PM (lX8VI)

216 @206: "Ace's inability to understand why ..."

Understanding and empathizing are two different things.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 21, 2023 07:03 PM (k1Qly)

217 >>>What is the voting coalition?

what's the Trump coalition? Moderate Republicans stayed with him (mostly) through the 2020 vote. You think the wishy-washy moderates got more supportive of him after J6?

I know this is insulting but I can't help but think most of you are still thinking about how great it was November 8, 2016, and just wanting that magic again.

But that magic is gone. we've run three elections since then. Trump is a drag on the ticket and in almost every race, down-ticket candidates like senate and house candidates get MORE votes than trump.

You guys always claim that's just proof of fraud.

How about entertaining the mere *possibility* that there are a good number of Republicans and Republican leaners who will vote for a "normal" candidate but absolutely will not vote for Trump?

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 07:04 PM (KRtlO)

218 Why did Trump appoint so many Deep Staters?

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:00 PM (cOFom)

You see, he is easily fooled and effortlessly manipulated. That's the *defense* of Trump from his supporters.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:04 PM (0p/Tu)

219 BTW, if Biden or Newsome wins, Dems will take the house.

Senate has a great GOP map, so hopefully GOP takes the Senate.

But with every candidate having to answer about Trump and his charges and trials, I wonder if they will take the Senate.

I think I'd be very skeptical to run, because its going to be endless questions about Trump Trials.

Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 07:04 PM (Cg63x)

220 *types* *deletes*

Nah, no money in it.

How about this: 'I am waiting for the first comment that says: 'Will no one rid me of this troublesome Trump!'

Go ahead. Go full Beckett.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 21, 2023 07:04 PM (X07E4)

221
"You have a remarkable economy of words, Gloria."

- - Hobson

==

Golf clap for Arthur reference. And I fully, totally agree with every word you said @26.

Posted by: Lady in Black-- at August 21, 2023 07:05 PM (mupln)

222 At what point will the political and legal system lose the presumption of legitimacy?

Subotai Bahadur

Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at August 21, 2023 07:05 PM (MwifJ)

223 >> To cheat like that with DeSantis, they will have to face themselves and just admit that they're soviets, and do not intend to ever permit a fair vote again.

>>Will they flinch from that? Doubtful. But I know for a fact they won't flinch from doing it with Trump -- again.

This is one of the silliest reasons to prefer DeSantis. Like the Dems would ever choose to be less evil.

Btw if DeSantis was capable of getting 74M votes, he'd be doing better in current polling.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at August 21, 2023 07:05 PM (3TW6j)

224 What if Trump is in jail and voting for Desanctimonious is the only way to Trump pardoned?

So, you're saying Trump supporters prefer to see him in jail?
Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 07:02 PM (Cg63x)

Holy shit. That's the fucking Bush Faction plan. Jfc you evil bastards.

I can't believe it took me until just now.

God how I hate Bushies.

Go to hell.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 07:05 PM (jQ/PM)

225 If the real issue facing America is election integrity, isnt it a better play to have a non-Trump Republican "lose" a rigged election?

If Trump goes down, it will simply be chalked up by our side (correctly) that Trump is a piss poor candidate and the American public just didnt want the drama.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:05 PM (cOFom)

226 Fulton County jail is under investigation by the DOJ for a inmate dying from bed bug bites
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2023 07:01 PM (MOY79)
.....

The bed bugs will get a sweetheart deal and be exempt from any further pest control.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2023 07:05 PM (v0R5T)

227 Prediction: no matter who it is, the GOP candidate will get more than 74m votes. Every election in modern times, the loser got more votes than the previous loser. So yes there’s nothing magic about 74m. The loser in 2024 will probably get 75 or 76 million votes.

Posted by: Montec at August 21, 2023 07:05 PM (2MNmu)

228 >>>Trump knows what’s up.

he didn't know what was up in all of 2020 when Democrats were openly rigging the upcoming vote.

Sometimes being the kid with attention deficit disorder and emotional control issues who doesn't do his homework actually results in failures.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 07:05 PM (KRtlO)

229 give it up with the "Trump Balls of Steel" claim.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 07:00 PM (KRtlO)

I didn't say anything about balls of steel. I said a Republicans have NO balls.

Posted by: ... at August 21, 2023 07:05 PM (lX8VI)

230 Sometimes being smart and in control and on top of things can actually be a *good* thing.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:57 PM (KRtlO)

One of the many problems with the consultant class is that their confident assessments of "smart" candidates inevitably result in the working class telling those candidates to shut their faggoty Harvard mouths and get the fuck outta here.

Now, I thought Ron DeSantis would at least have the incredible intelligence to hold his own voting base together before the first primary debate, never mind the first caucus. Turns out he doesn't. The grifters, of course, are going to ride that train until the money gives out, but pretty much anyone else has run away screaming. The other candidates smell blood and lucre, which is why they are going to SAVAGE RDS on stage.

And even the RDS stans will be paying more attention to Trump, because that's how it goes.

Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2023 07:06 PM (QFXZG)

231 "You see, he is easily fooled and effortlessly manipulated. That's the *defense* of Trump from his supporters."

Trump signed the letter redacting Crossfire Hurricane shit in December 2020.

I assume he did not read the letter.

He's not going to be focused enough to get shit done.

Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 07:06 PM (Cg63x)

232 According to the Patriot Freedom Project, Trump also donated a full time employee and provided other support. They said this during one of their Christmas events last year, I think.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 21, 2023 07:06 PM (EXyHK)

233 See on my Google news citizens in Belarus are requested to leave immediately

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2023 07:06 PM (MOY79)

234 I'll vote for DeSantis in the primary and for whoever is running against the Commie Woke candidate the Dems run.

Posted by: polynikes at August 21, 2023 07:06 PM (96Vq0)

235 the political landscape is already shifting under the dim's feet

they might have had a chance if the election was this fall

the economy will be in rough shape next year and the people will be really hurting cuz the free money has run out and their credit cards are maxed out

I think the republicans are doing a good job with the death by a 1000 cuts

and the Ukraine war will be a big loser next year

things will be so bad that they will have to run a throw away ala McCain

Gavin is not gonna wallow in this turd

Biden will resign next spring after the primaries and the DNC will pick the nominee

and Kameltoe will become the first woman prezzy, a title she will be adorn with until she dies and also a bunch of money from books and speaking engagements . However, she not be the nominee. She will pardon the Biden's and anyone else who needs one, Monaco, Garland, Wray etal, which will destroy her political future

the deals have been cut and the holes have been dug

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2023 07:07 PM (us2H3)

236 "leading up to the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection."

Go fuck yourself, bloated little self important fat man. You know precisely what the definition of an insurrection is, and that wasn't it. But you keep running that little entry hole for Washington dick, bulbous little turd.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2023 07:07 PM (ifHdv)

237 At this point a lot of people support Trump for the same reason DC residents voted for Marion Barry. To stick a thumb in the eye of the man.

Competence in government is a quaint remnant now. Candidate quality like Fetterman and Feinstein are the rule now.

Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2023 07:07 PM (dWjpk)

238 "The other candidates smell blood and lucre, which is why they are going to SAVAGE RDS on stage."

Yes, I worry about that.

A lot of people are there for VP or cabinet positions.

Chris Christie, who I hate, will be interesting to watch.

Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 07:07 PM (Cg63x)

239 You see, he is easily fooled and effortlessly manipulated. That's the *defense* of Trump from his supporters.
Posted by: Theo

While at the same time a genius tactician playing 4-d chess.

Posted by: Montec at August 21, 2023 07:07 PM (2MNmu)

240 “ We're watching Maui unfold as a complete failure at best…”

I blame the fires on those mango republicans.

Posted by: Joe Bite em at August 21, 2023 07:07 PM (y72mI)

241 I see Biden is on the dais heaping gobs of praise on those who may be easily (and charitably) described as the most incompetent and derelict public safety officials in the history of government, naturally.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 21, 2023 07:07 PM (MeG8a)

242
Every magazine, channel, TV show and website on the planet will be all in. DeSantis will be a secretly gay homophobic child molesting fascist book banning corrupt serial rapist and that's just on Day 1. They will have no trouble making people hate and fear *anyone*.
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2023 07:03 PM (lX8VI)

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And GOPe will tut tut about him not being a “quality candidate”.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 21, 2023 07:07 PM (l312u)

243 Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2023 07:06 PM (QFXZG)

Working class voters abandoned Trump in 2020, resulting in a historic defeat. Given election results since then, he hasn't gotten them back.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:08 PM (0p/Tu)

244 With home insurance doubling in Florida last year and again this year if, IF, DeSantis gets the nom he might not even win Florida.

Only prosperous, high trust nations get insurance. We have devolved into a trajectory that puts the FUSA on par with Venezuela.

When insurance premiums pay a portion of the total costs to insure (the rest in investments) and investment portfolios are deliberately cratered by diabolical forces in Babylon DC, when the courts are utterly corrupt, the juries are profoundly stupid and have no thought whatsoever about even basic economics - you are a society that can't have nor deserve insurance of any sort.

There is far too much engineered chaos in a system that requires stability in order to function.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 21, 2023 07:08 PM (p8A+W)

245 BTW, if Biden or Newsome wins, Dems will take the house.

Senate has a great GOP map, so hopefully GOP takes the Senate.

But with every candidate having to answer about Trump and his charges and trials, I wonder if they will take the Senate.

I think I'd be very skeptical to run, because its going to be endless questions about Trump Trials.
Posted by: Harun
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Trump at the top of the ticket will destroy Republicans down ticket.

Dems will take everything and any Republican that doesn't salute Trump hard enough, he'll take pleasure torpedoing their chances.

I personally think it would be in the GOP's best interest to just deny him the nomination and let him run 3rd party so we can get this out of our systems.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:08 PM (cOFom)

246 How about entertaining the mere *possibility* that there are a good number of Republicans and Republican leaners who will vote for a "normal" candidate but absolutely will not vote for Trump?
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 07:04 PM (KRtlO)

Because DJT is crushing the primary? Because his support has grown? Because the issues he ran and runs on are even more vital? Because ppl love his crass humor? Because his coalition isn't limited to Republicans?

I don't get it, Ace. I really don't. I get that it is what it is. But still....

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 07:08 PM (jQ/PM)

247 How bout we just wait until the primaries. All the sturm and drang now is just so much farting in the wind.

Let em make their own case and see if the public will bite.

Posted by: whig at August 21, 2023 07:08 PM (6rr3H)

248 It's nice to see the anti-Trump faction is every bit as miserable, insulting and cocksure as they were in 2016. Wish we could play a different song but alas here we are.

But do keep going on about how easily fooled Trump is while you yourselves get fooled by yet ANOTHER grifter.

How's Fightin Teddy Cruz, Billy Barr and Kristi Noem doing these days?

Posted by: ... at August 21, 2023 07:09 PM (lX8VI)

249 How does Trump square the circle regarding COVID, the Vax, allowing the country to burn, not completing the wall, using the FED to print untold trillions to inflate the currency to prop up the stock market?
Especially the Vax btw
Curious or is it back to plan trusting and all of this had to happen bullshite because reasons?

Posted by: Eagle Lips at August 21, 2023 07:09 PM (D1hSI)

250 I'll vote PDT, DeSantis or Vivek in the general.

I will not vote for any GOPe, which is what I expect the GOP will foist off on Republicans in the general.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 21, 2023 07:09 PM (2YtOq)

251 "Biden will resign next spring after the primaries and the DNC will pick the nominee

and Kameltoe will become the first woman prezzy, a title she will be adorn with until she dies and also a bunch of money from books and speaking engagements . However, she not be the nominee. She will pardon the Biden's and anyone else who needs one, Monaco, Garland, Wray etal, which will destroy her political future

the deals have been cut and the holes have been dug"

This is why Biden isn't doing serious campaigning.

You nailed it.

Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 07:09 PM (Cg63x)

252 He'd get maybe 50mil. Maybe. Possible.

DJT voters will write in DJT. Or just not vote. They aren't Republicans.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 07:01 PM (jQ/PM)
******
Which would just go to show how stubborn and childish people would be.

The Dems are already plotting on how they are going to take back the House and the Senate so they can add 2 new states which will be a guarantee of Democrat rule forever.

Probably make kids learn all the 172 pronouns and embrace the trans ideology before they learn math.

The Democrats are sick and dangerous.
Trump is one man, he is not the only man.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2023 07:09 PM (NpAcC)

253 Go full Beckett.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 21, 2023 07:04 PM (X07E4)

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That is my fear. With each indictment, his support increases. I think they will take him out. I have no idea what comes next.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 21, 2023 07:09 PM (u73oe)

254 247 How bout we just wait until the primaries. All the sturm and drang now is just so much farting in the wind.

all we are is farts in the wind...

Posted by: folk songs for our time at August 21, 2023 07:09 PM (oY6Yp)

255 If they jail him I think bad things will happen.

Like unimaginable things.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at August 21, 2023 07:09 PM (7F/YZ)

256 At this point there is no difference between Make It Burn and Let It Burn. The Burning Times are coming.

Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2023 07:09 PM (dWjpk)

257 for the sake of blog peace, i'm going to post the cafe at 7:15. So everyone get your final statements in

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 07:09 PM (KRtlO)

258 The Dems are already plotting on how they are going to take back the House and the Senate so they can add 2 new states which will be a guarantee of Democrat rule forever.

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How will we be able to tell?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 07:10 PM (QsOFZ)

259 he political landscape is already shifting under the dim's feet

they might have had a chance if the election was this fall

the economy will be in rough shape next year and the people will be really hurting cuz the free money has run out and their credit cards are maxed out

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2022 was about the best environment ever for a challenging party - economically speaking - and the GOP stepped on its dick. It’s the economy stupid isn’t a thing anymore.

And the Covid money is ancient history. That ran out 21-22.

Posted by: Montec at August 21, 2023 07:10 PM (2MNmu)

260 Trump knows what’s up.

No. He does not. When it comes to how this game is going to play out, I've watched Donald Trump and all those who love him so, enough to know that the entire movement certainly refuses to know "what is up".

This is going to be a show trial. A Randy Weaver kind of event. Yet we still have folks quoting law, and The Donald still digging in and lawyering up, as if any of that matters. As if he can somehow write a check, or make a speech, to change the plot. Like an episode of Matlock or Perry Mason. That's not how show trials work. History books are full of why.

I blame his boys. They talk as if they know better.

Posted by: Reality at August 21, 2023 07:10 PM (B43Dp)

261 Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 07:08 PM (jQ/PM)

Trump lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton, the most disliked candidate the Democrats have run in Democrats. He lost outright to Joe Biden.

It'd be ridiculous enough if you took an average, moderately liked politician and pretended he was a beloved man of the people. Taking the most detested major political figure in modern American history and pretending people like him is beyond even that.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:10 PM (0p/Tu)

262 >>>255 If they jail him I think bad things will happen.
Like unimaginable things.

I think the worst thing will happen: America shrugs and accepts it.

This is a mistake to keep thinking that Trump is so popular that he will inspire a revolution. Do not confuse your own feelings for the feelings of the majority.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 07:10 PM (KRtlO)

263 Will there be a 2024 election? Just asking?

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at August 21, 2023 07:11 PM (QsZie)

264 The Democrats are sick and dangerous.
Trump is one man, he is not the only man.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2023 07:09 PM (NpAcC)

It is the GOP and the DEMs that are sick abd dangerous.

Have you learned nothing from DJT?

Incredible.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 07:11 PM (jQ/PM)

265 "I sure hope Tucker Carlson is up to the task of quizzing Trump seriously about his record and his failures and what plan he has to correct those going forward (spoiler: there is no plan), "

The WSJ editorial page went after Trump for skipping the debate and took a shot at Tucker. Irrespective that the Murdoch owned publication has soured on Trump, you also had Kimberly Strassel opining that Trump's high negatives, which won't change, almost guarantee he will lose. The thought is Biden probably can't be bad enough to lose to Trump, and only a "younger" GOP candidate would blow him out. It's also why in open primaries Dems are urging their voters to go for Trump.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2023 07:12 PM (ifHdv)

266 Will there be a 2024 election? Just asking?
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at August 21, 2023 07:11 PM (QsZie)

70/30 no.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 07:12 PM (jQ/PM)

267 My final statement is, unless Election integrity is restored (not much has changed), the discussion is largely irrelevant.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 21, 2023 07:12 PM (MeG8a)

268 If the real issue facing America is election integrity, isnt it a better play to have a non-Trump Republican "lose" a rigged election?

LOL!

Corruption is the system. The entire system. Zimbabwe government looks more honest that the comprehensive systemic corruption that is Leviathan.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 21, 2023 07:12 PM (p8A+W)

269 "How's Fightin Teddy Cruz, Billy Barr and Kristi Noem doing these days?"

Ted Cruz remains in elected office.

Kristi Noem, too.

Bill Barr, yeah, I have criticisms, but him leaving in December 2020 looks like GREAT FORESIGHT.

Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 07:12 PM (Cg63x)

270 I don’t want anyone to fix Washington DC.

I want it to implode like Mordor in fire, rape, screaming and gnashing of ass.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2023 07:13 PM (R/m4+)

271 It'd be ridiculous enough if you took an average, moderately liked politician and pretended he was a beloved man of the people. Taking the most detested major political figure in modern American history and pretending people like him is beyond even that.
Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:10 PM (0p/Tu)

Fuck off Bushie.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 07:13 PM (jQ/PM)

272 The Biden administration is urging U.S. citizens in Belarus to depart the country immediately
........

Sounds like the Uke Counter Offensive is going swimmingly.
Another $20 billion oughta do it.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2023 07:13 PM (v0R5T)

273 This is a mistake to keep thinking that Trump is so popular that he will inspire a revolution. Do not confuse your own feelings for the feelings of the majority.

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Ah, but there's the thing.

Trump already inspired a revolution. We watched it happen. It's why there was no widespread election fraud and why states had no standing in regards to other states.

Well, not so much a revolution since it was the government that did it. Coup, I guess. Color revolution definitely.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 07:13 PM (QsOFZ)

274 "the economy will be in rough shape next year"

Maybe, maybe not. I wouldn't bet the whole campaign on it.

Posted by: Veni, Vidi, gp at August 21, 2023 07:13 PM (MvF+J)

275 As we rapidly approach the colander-face-mask-era/ End of the USA as we know it epoch, I am casting my vote for the brawler from Queens.

Who give a rat’s behind about decorum at a time like this?

Our general was STOLEN and NOBODY fought back.

We are being ruled by unnamed individuals elected by no one.

Doesn’t it at least make you curious how hard the left is trying to nab President DJT? Why? What do they know? Every single thing they do is meant to inflict the greatest harm. So if he’s so ineffective and unlikeable, why would they even lift a finger to get him out of the picture? This is the ‘tell’.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma Donald J. Trump is our duly elected president at August 21, 2023 07:13 PM (l0Cy4)

276 He indicated, in his typical, detiorating-mental-health all-caps way

IS THAT WRONG? SHOULD I NOT BE DOING THAT?

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at August 21, 2023 07:14 PM (a3Q+t)

277 Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 07:13 PM (jQ/PM)

Cry harder about Trump's historically humiliating defeat, bootlicker.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:14 PM (0p/Tu)

278 Trump's GOP choice, Rona McRomney hasn't done jack shit to fix the elections. She believes they were all totes OK.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2023 07:14 PM (ifHdv)

279 FOX is acting like the Trump/Tuca thing aint happening

will draw a bigger audience than the snooze fest on Fox

esp after the first 10 minutes

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2023 07:14 PM (us2H3)

280 Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:10 PM (0p/Tu)

Trump lost the popular vote in 2016. My God now I've heard it all.

Who is it that was gonna get more votes than inevitable Hillary? You anti-Trumps forget your bullshit from 2016 but I don't. He was going to embarrass himself to her, he was the worst possible candidate, we need a strong conservative to best Hillary and he's running interference to guarantee she wins.

God you were idiots. And you think the blatant stealing of 2020 somehow *vindicates* you for all that bullshit and now you're doubling down.

Posted by: ... at August 21, 2023 07:14 PM (lX8VI)

281 one minute to cafe

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2023 07:14 PM (v0R5T)

282 If Trump is the nominee, I see some 3rd Party RFK type sucking up what was already going to be a losing race anyway.

I know I will be entertaining it.

If we're going to talk "polls", almost 70% of the country doesnt want Trump to run again. He's DEEPLY unpopular, including with his fellow Republicans.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:15 PM (cOFom)

283 He lost outright to Joe Biden.

If a lie is the basis of your argument, you have no argument.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 21, 2023 07:15 PM (p8A+W)

284 Ace, Newsome already did the no debate thing so it is not like he would have if Trump played this differently.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 21, 2023 07:15 PM (17s+e)

285 Doesn’t it at least make you curious how hard the left is trying to nab President DJT? Why? What do they know? Every single thing they do is meant to inflict the greatest harm. So if he’s so ineffective and unlikeable, why would they even lift a finger to get him out of the picture? This is the ‘tell’.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma Donald J. Trump

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The death penalty is on the table. It was the entire reason the Ashli Babbit shooting was staged.

"Conspiracy Against Rights" charge comes with the death penalty if anyone died. No one would've without that handy moment that Ray Epps' friend Jayden X was standing at the exact right spot to film.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 07:15 PM (QsOFZ)

286 Billy Bagpipes Barr stood stood down as top cop, in the face of massive evidence of voter fraud. He knows hi neck is in the wringer if Trump gets reelected. Just another wheel in the DeepState mafia.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2023 07:15 PM (Cus5s)

287 DeSantis already said he believes 2020 was legit, he as much as said he has no intention to take on the swamp. He'll likely win because the intention was always to find a safe Republican to win.

Or, am I offending the DeSantis cult? I mean, that's what you call someone who didn't change candidates when you did, right?

Posted by: Karen at August 21, 2023 07:15 PM (45rcK)

288 Our general was STOLEN and NOBODY fought back.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma Donald J. Trump is our duly elected president at August 21, 2023 07:13 PM

It wasn't the hill to die on.

Posted by: GOPe+ at August 21, 2023 07:16 PM (a3Q+t)

289 Ted Cruz remains in elected office.

Kristi Noem, too.

Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 07:12 PM (Cg63x)

If that's your bar, it explains a LOT.

Posted by: ... at August 21, 2023 07:16 PM (lX8VI)

290 DeSantis is a cold fish. Watch that entire interview from this that ended with the "listless vessels" comment, which was the icing on the cake.

Trump could not have filed preemptive lawsuits challenging the vote...the courts would not even hear the lawsuits after the vote.

Not having Trump in this debate is actually good for the has beens and also rans...somebody may rise to the top and surprise us, but more likely it will be clear that Trump will win the nomination.

Posted by: Dantes at August 21, 2023 07:16 PM (W23tn)

291 Posted by: ... at August 21, 2023 07:14 PM (lX8VI)

He barely squeaked through the electoral college in 2016, then proceeded to lose every fight, election, and moment afterwards.

He's arguably the biggest loser in modern political history, if only because Hillary, Romney, McCain, Kerry et. al lost ONCE and fucked off from presidential politics. Trump's lost three election cycles in a row now, and if he's nominated, we're up to four.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:16 PM (0p/Tu)

292 I think the worst thing will happen: America shrugs and accepts it. This is a mistake to keep thinking that Trump is so popular that he will inspire a revolution. Do not confuse your own feelings for the feelings of the majority.

Why go fight for a dude that watched his re-election get rigged, in real time, and then golf the next day ? Then be quiet for two weeks ?

The Trump Folks here remind me of Boomers that get really, really into Sports. They care more than the players, and get really pissed when the dudes or chics on the field don't "care" enough.

Posted by: Reality at August 21, 2023 07:16 PM (B43Dp)

293 Based perspective.

Posted by: A person afraid of the LGBTQ lobby at August 21, 2023 07:16 PM (5DTn7)

294 You anti-Trumps forget your bullshit from 2016 but I don't. He was going to embarrass himself to her, he was the worst possible candidate, we need a strong conservative to best Hillary and he's running interference to guarantee she wins.

God you were idiots. And you think the blatant stealing of 2020 somehow *vindicates* you for all that bullshit and now you're doubling down.
Posted by: ...
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No, actually several of the people now complaining about Trump, including Ace, were not taking that posture at all in either 2016 and 2020. I was there.

in fact, Ace was very vocal against the NeverTrump movement.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:16 PM (cOFom)

295 No idea how jail & SS protection would work

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2023 07:17 PM (MOY79)

296 That is my fear. With each indictment, his support increases. I think they will take him out. I have no idea what comes next.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 21, 2023 07:09 PM (u73oe)

Well, according to ace, absolutely nothing.

*literal type and delete*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 21, 2023 07:17 PM (X07E4)

297 Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:57 PM (KRtlO)

Haha ok.

DeSantis is so popular he’s trailing Vivek. Listless vessels indeed.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:17 PM (4U+62)

298 2016 was a fluke. You had a horrible candidate in Hilary combined with a presumption that it would be a cake walk for her. Really schizophrenic in that aspect. Everyone said she wll win easily a trillion times so she didn’t really lift a finger to win. Believed her own deadlines.

And because she is an odious hag, enough people in 3 states decided, what the hell Trump can’t be this bad and voted for him because the alternative was so awful.

And so he won. It was a perfect storm, lightning in a bottle. It’s not happening again. Ever.

But that’s shitbis not ever happening again.

Posted by: Montec at August 21, 2023 07:17 PM (2MNmu)

299 As we rapidly approach the colander-face-mask-era/ End of the USA as we know it epoch, I am casting my vote for the brawler from Queens.

You want Trump
You will get the Antichrist instead.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 21, 2023 07:17 PM (p8A+W)

300 Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 21, 2023 07:15 PM (p8A+W)

Not liking something doesn't make it untrue. Sorry.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:18 PM (0p/Tu)

301 The death penalty is on the table. It was the entire reason the Ashli Babbit shooting was staged.

"Conspiracy Against Rights" charge comes with the death penalty if anyone died. No one would've without that handy moment that Ray Epps' friend Jayden X was standing at the exact right spot to film.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here.

Did they memory hole the video of her getting shot in the neck with three cops standing right behind her? Looked like murder one on video... but somebody else conspired to have random dude pop her....

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 21, 2023 07:18 PM (ga8qR)

302 "DeSantis already said he believes 2020 was legit, he as much as said he has no intention to take on the swamp. He'll likely win because the intention was always to find a safe Republican to win."

He also brought up Zuckerbucks, mail in ballots etc.

"The governor repeated his concerns about voting methods from the 2020 election, criticizing mail voting and so-called “ballot harvesting," but like other Republicans he said he would embrace the methods he had criticized.

“We are going to do it, too. We're not going to fight with one hand tied behind our backs," DeSantis said."

Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 07:18 PM (Cg63x)

303 192 Should be higher because.

"TRUMPS BREATH STIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINKS" !!

and causes global warming. in fact, trump is responsible for hurricane hilary, an attempt to take his leading potential opponent, governor newsom.

Posted by: anachronda at August 21, 2023 07:18 PM (oY6Yp)

304 It's not just DJT in this, 18 others who get no protection are involved

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2023 07:18 PM (MOY79)

305 After 2020, we are in a democrat democratic dictatorship.

The USA is done.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 21, 2023 07:18 PM (17s+e)

306 in fact, Ace was very vocal against the NeverTrump movement.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:16 PM (cOFom)

You missed ace's I'm voting for Hillary phase, you missed what this site was like in spring and summer of 2016 - bw I wasn't just talking to ace - and you're talking out of your ass as usual.

Posted by: ... at August 21, 2023 07:18 PM (lX8VI)

307

One might conclude visiting here that this blog is another variation of never Trump from the postings and general attitude displayed.

Is this a valid assumption?

Posted by: irongrampa at August 21, 2023 07:19 PM (KATBx)

308 I am concerned that Donald Trump and his crazed, extremely extreme supporters will make light of the situation despite the seriousness of the charges. The seriousness of the charges warrant serious facial expressions, and serious behavior.
[looks serious]

Posted by: The Maquis of Detroit at August 21, 2023 07:19 PM (ffgB2)

309 Trump couldn't beat Biden in 2020, but he will in 2024, when he's weaker than he was when he lost the first time. Got it?

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:19 PM (0p/Tu)

310 ace at 7:10pm:

Who said it takes a majority to have a successful revolution???

Posted by: Pastafarian at August 21, 2023 07:19 PM (sgHEm)

311 The Bush family and sycophants are an absolute curse on this nation.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 07:19 PM (jQ/PM)

312 In all honesty, I haven't even decided if I'll get dressed and even go to the polls in '24. The country is so very far gone (DC, that is, and its deep state bureaucracy) that it's all academic to me at this point. Factor in the massive fraud that will, not if, happen and I just barely even give a damn anymore.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 21, 2023 07:20 PM (mupln)

313 he didn't know what was up in all of 2020 when Democrats were openly rigging the upcoming vote.

Sometimes being the kid with attention deficit disorder and emotional control issues who doesn't do his homework actually results in failures.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 07:05 PM (KRtlO)

———

He filed lawsuits in at least 3 states before the election to stop the very things they were doing to corrupt the election.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 21, 2023 07:20 PM (l312u)

314 At least for me anyway, I'm not a DeSantis superfan. But if he emerges as the only viable vote for "not Trump" in the primary, he has my support.

I think Trump has become such a martyr (just like the Dems wanted) that it may be too late and he is the GOP nominee.

Can't wait to read the excuses the morning after, when Trump loses the real election by double digits. That they really have perfected the fraud machine and that's why we need Trump again in 2028.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:20 PM (cOFom)

315 Hi, everyone. Are we all having a good, peaceful evening?

Posted by: Archimedes at August 21, 2023 07:21 PM (I/Qkd)

316 Did they memory hole the video of her getting shot in the neck with three cops standing right behind her? Looked like murder one on video... but somebody else conspired to have random dude pop her....
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

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Worse. People started watching the video. Poor thing. She couldn't start bleeding until someone helpfully squeezed her backpack. And got a grievous neck wound and no one even removed the floppy, loose bandana to treat it.

bitchute.com/video/DYlb92zMkj41/

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 07:21 PM (QsOFZ)

317 Anyone that says 2020 was legit is someone to completely ignore.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:21 PM (4U+62)

318 Posted by: Montec at August 21, 2023 07:17 PM (2MNmu)

Trump BEAT her. He turned all her strengths into weaknesses. And he fought her unafraid. Brought Juanita Broadrrick to debates, called her what she was, a "nasty woman". It worked.

I said at the time Trump would not only win, but that all his vocal detractors who guaranteed he would lose, would act like it was obvious all along. And here we are.

Posted by: ... at August 21, 2023 07:21 PM (lX8VI)

319 Trump couldn't beat Biden in 2020, but he will in 2024, when he's weaker than he was when he lost the first time. Got it?
Posted by: Theo

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Don't forget that the person who has repeatedly lost to the "fraud machine" will somehow be able to overcome it. This time.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:21 PM (cOFom)

320
One might conclude visiting here that this blog is another variation of never Trump from the postings and general attitude displayed.

Is this a valid assumption?
Posted by: irongrampa at August 21, 2023 07:19 PM (KATBx)

Maybe Ace is NT but the comments are yuuugely pro Trump.

Posted by: Montec at August 21, 2023 07:22 PM (2MNmu)

321 Have you learned nothing from DJT?

Incredible.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 07:11 PM (jQ/PM)
*******
Had the Republicans not won the House NONE of the Hunter/ Joe Biden, DOJ corruption would have be investigated and brought out in the open by Comer.
Trump's BFF is Lindsey Graham for crying out loud.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2023 07:22 PM (NpAcC)

322 The Bush family and sycophants are an absolute curse on this nation.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 07:19 PM

Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water.

Posted by: Jeb! Tanned, Rested, and Ready with even more Jebness! at August 21, 2023 07:22 PM (a3Q+t)

323 Ellipsis,
I never take people serious on politics until ya see the money. Most of the blather during the invisible primary is about positioning their candidate to win.

For some like little Benny, it is all about the bucks over 100k I think. Salem and it's properties also got some love that dare not speak its name. Some never liked Trump or his policies.

We will see in January I guess as some of the no hopers are paid stooges of Gope and obviously their value goes down if Trump is not on a podium so the sound bite can be released.

Posted by: whig at August 21, 2023 07:22 PM (6rr3H)

324 Can't wait to read the excuses the morning after, when Trump loses the real election by double digits.

One thing you can count on: none of the OTers will be willing to say "ya know, maybe Trump wasn't our best candidate".

Posted by: Archimedes at August 21, 2023 07:22 PM (I/Qkd)

325 “We are going to do it, too. We're not going to fight with one hand tied behind our backs," DeSantis said."

Posted by: Harun at August 21, 2023 07:18 PM (Cg63x)

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Meatball should prepare to be arrested. How dare he corrupt out pristine electoral system.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 21, 2023 07:22 PM (l312u)

326 Anyone that says 2020 was legit is someone to completely ignore.

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Yep, this. It's laughable to even insinuate that it was legitimate.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 21, 2023 07:22 PM (mupln)

327 Jayden X, the guy who filmed the Ashli Babbit "shooting", with Ray Epps as Epps was telling everyone to enter the buildings:

https://tinyurl.com/256kacu7

It was all planned out long before the 6th.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 07:23 PM (QsOFZ)

328 Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:20 PM (cOFom)

Neat.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:23 PM (4U+62)

329 Billy Bagpipes Barr stood stood down as top cop, in the face of massive evidence of voter fraud. He knows hi neck is in the wringer if Trump gets reelected. Just another wheel in the DeepState mafia.

That will NOT happen as a direct result of a Trump win in 2024.

Lets make pretend that Trump wins. The Left goes kinetic, lots of fire and bloodshed. Eventually, when the sun is blotted out of the sky from the smoke, some Normals who discover there is nothing left to lose also goes kinetic. When that switch gets flipped we discover why there are trillion rounds of ammo and hundreds of millions of guns. It will look like Normandy.

Somewhere in that bloody French Revolution re dux, Bagpipes will be one of many who will unceremoniously return home to his father the Devil.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 21, 2023 07:23 PM (p8A+W)

330 Trump couldn't beat Biden in 2020, but he will in 2024, when he's weaker than he was when he lost the first time. Got it?

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:19 PM (0p/Tu

I remember when Archimedes told me that Trump detractors in here weren't acting like the 2020 election was real at all, and asked for examples of it. Then I gave him one and he said it didn't count.

Well here's another. I'm sure this doesn't count either.

Posted by: ... at August 21, 2023 07:23 PM (lX8VI)

331 Every word out of Barr's mouth is a lie.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at August 21, 2023 07:23 PM (wh9C3)

332 Trump BEAT her. He turned all her strengths into weaknesses. And he fought her unafraid. Brought Juanita Broadrrick to debates, called her what she was, a "nasty woman". It worked.

I said at the time Trump would not only win, but that all his vocal detractors who guaranteed he would lose, would act like it was obvious all along. And here we are.
Posted by: ...
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Trump won because people hated Hillary. The end. She was always an unlikable scrunt.

People read way too much into that victory. Trump and Trump aligned candidates have lost every election since.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:23 PM (cOFom)

333 Can't wait to read the excuses the morning after, when Trump loses the real election by double digits.

-

Well, he won't be allowed to be on the ballot in at least four or five states. That's the whole point of the charges against him.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 07:24 PM (QsOFZ)

334 One thing you can count on: none of the OTers will be willing to say "ya know, maybe Trump wasn't our best candidate".
Posted by: Archimedes at August 21, 2023 07:22 PM (I/Qkd)

Because he was. Because this is theoretically a Republic where votes matter. And that means someone like DJT wins in landslides.

The other GOP candidates were freaks and geeks.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 07:24 PM (jQ/PM)

335 Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:21 PM (4U+62)

The funny thing is that Trump himself knows 2020 was "legit", or else he wouldn't be running again.

It's like when Sidney Powell did that Kracken bullshit and she had a bunch of sycophants cheering her on. Then a few months later in a court filing, she said that her claims were so ridiculous, no reasonable person could take them seriously.

Same thing with Trump, just less explicit. If 2020 was rigged, it'd make no sense to run in 2024; he's implicitly belittling the intelligence of anyone who endorsed his claims.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:24 PM (0p/Tu)

336 Posted by: whig at August 21, 2023 07:22 PM (6rr3H)

Thanks

Posted by: ... at August 21, 2023 07:24 PM (lX8VI)

337 315 Hi, everyone. Are we all having a good, peaceful evening?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 21, 2023 07:21 PM (I/Qkd)

Eh, about the usual.

I think those deck chairs really go nicely along the starboard railing, but ace wants to set up that glitter monstrosity barcalounger with hobo gun rack there.

He's a little hairy prick.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 21, 2023 07:25 PM (X07E4)

338 He filed lawsuits in at least 3 states before the election to stop the very things they were doing to corrupt the election.

Hence, the blind spot with The Donald. You don't stop election fraud by filing a case with the same judiciary that is pushing the fraud.

But The Donald can't grok that. I've watched the man. Anybody that's intellectually honest can watch the man. He's hardwired to walk into any room, including a court room, and assume he'll win, because he's a rich New York City man.

He's not the guy going forward. He was the best guy from a list of bad options last time. That's all.

Posted by: Reality at August 21, 2023 07:25 PM (B43Dp)

339 Well trolls are predictable if nothing else.

Posted by: ... at August 21, 2023 07:25 PM (lX8VI)

340
Well, he won't be allowed to be on the ballot in at least four or five states. That's the whole point of the charges against him.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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Sounds like it's a bad idea to nominate him?

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:25 PM (cOFom)

341 I say: make them cheat an even more ridiculous level. So obvious that even the most partisan can see it.

Watching DeSantis get 55MM votes and Biden 62MM just doesn’t do it for me

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:25 PM (4U+62)

342 I voted for Trump, twice, but I have never liked the man. He is exactly what he purports to be, a chameleon who can donate to Bill Clinton and then claim he's going to send Hillary to jail. A guy whose swamp was the Union/Mob/Construction racket, which he was pretty much at the top of. And of course, he was a Hollywood darling, with cameos galore and his own TV show. I think he's a prick. I will vote for him again if he is the candidate in 2024 because the Democrats are so much worse.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 21, 2023 07:25 PM (2cS/G)

343 Trump won because people hated Hillary. The end. She was always an unlikable scrunt.

Posted by: Blago

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Egg sactly

Posted by: Montec at August 21, 2023 07:25 PM (2MNmu)

344 Posted by: ... at August 21, 2023 07:23 PM (lX8VI)

Keep wailing and screaming about 2020 not being legit. It's not at all a pathetic coping mechanism used to avoid reality.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:25 PM (0p/Tu)

345 the Bushies don't like to think about it cuz they are the most self unaware turds on the planet but they are the most hated family in the country

and they richly deserve the title

Shrub queered the party and put in a hole that Trump is trying to pull our asses out of

and these jack wagons are the ones pushing meatball

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2023 07:25 PM (us2H3)

346 Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:24 PM (0p/Tu)

You’re a very stupid person.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:26 PM (4U+62)

347 The funny thing is that Trump himself knows 2020 was "legit", or else he wouldn't be running again.

It's like when Sidney Powell did that Kracken bullshit and she had a bunch of sycophants cheering her on. Then a few months later in a court filing, she said that her claims were so ridiculous, no reasonable person could take them seriously.

Same thing with Trump, just less explicit. If 2020 was rigged, it'd make no sense to run in 2024; he's implicitly belittling the intelligence of anyone who endorsed his claims.
Posted by: Theo
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100%

if Trump really believed it, he wouldnt run. But he knows his supporters are stupid.

Trump knows 2020 was winnable.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:26 PM (cOFom)

348 Maybe Ace is NT but the comments are yuuugely pro Trump.

I'm so black pilled, I'm almost willing to adopt a Premillennial Dysfunctionalist eschatology and pray for the Rapture so y'all who remain will get to FAFO with the Antichrist for seven years.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 21, 2023 07:26 PM (p8A+W)

349 Trump won because people hated Hillary. The end. She was always an unlikable scrunt.

People read way too much into that victory. Trump and Trump aligned candidates have lost every election since.
Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:23 PM (cOFom)
******
Women especially hated Hillary.
Everyone I knew hated Hillary.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2023 07:27 PM (NpAcC)

350 Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:26 PM (4U+62)

Donald Trump thinks you're stupid. I didn't say you are; he did.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:27 PM (0p/Tu)

351 339 Well trolls are predictable if nothing else.
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2023 07:25 PM (lX8VI)

Eh, 'Troll' might be a bit strong for ace. Although I guess it is technically possible for a bog owner to troll his own readers. (Charles Johnson, for example.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 21, 2023 07:27 PM (X07E4)

352 I wonder why states would be actively trying to keep someone who is so easy to beat off of the ballot?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 07:28 PM (QsOFZ)

353 I remember when Archimedes told me that Trump detractors in here weren't acting like the 2020 election was real at all, and asked for examples of it. Then I gave him one and he said it didn't count.

The argument was if there were any who would not vote for Trump, even if he was the candidate. I assume you're referring to Blago, his statement at the time was ambiguous, but he can speak for himself. AFAIK, he's the only one. As to Theo, I'm not familiar with him. He may be new.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 21, 2023 07:28 PM (I/Qkd)

354 Shrub queered the party and put in a hole that Trump is trying to pull our asses out of

and these jack wagons are the ones pushing meatball
Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2023 07:25 PM (us2H3)

The malevolence of jailing DJt and then running their guy as the path to a pardon to get DJT voters is perfect Bush Faction.

Colluding with the DEMs on election fraud is too.

Scum.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 07:28 PM (jQ/PM)

355 I'm so black pilled, I'm almost willing to adopt a Premillennial Dysfunctionalist eschatology and pray for the Rapture so y'all who remain will get to FAFO with the Antichrist for seven years.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 21, 2023 07:26 PM (p8A+W)

I was thinking of picking up some Manichean literature. I am sure I can find some somewhere on the Internet.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 21, 2023 07:28 PM (X07E4)

356 Grow up, Ace.

Your bitterness over Desantis tanking in the polls is really showing. For someone like you (who constantly bitches about Trump's name calling habit), your verbal swipes in the above post only make you sound petty.

Why don't you, Bill Barr, Mike Miller and Joe Cunningham all go share a beer.

Posted by: Tracy at August 21, 2023 07:29 PM (8G2gV)

357 Watching DeSantis get 55MM votes and Biden 62MM just doesn’t do it for me.

I would recommend the 280mm votes, from the M65 Atomic Cannon. That'll do the job.

Posted by: The Maquis of Detroit at August 21, 2023 07:29 PM (ffgB2)

358
Hence, the blind spot with The Donald. You don't stop election fraud by filing a case with the same judiciary that is pushing the fraud.

But The Donald can't grok that. I've watched the man. Anybody that's intellectually honest can watch the man. He's hardwired to walk into any room, including a court room, and assume he'll win, because he's a rich New York City man.

He's not the guy going forward. He was the best guy from a list of bad options last time. That's all.
Posted by: Reality at August 21, 2023 07:25 PM (B43Dp)

—————

Agreed. He should’ve order the military to take over the election systems in PA, GA, AZ and MI.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 21, 2023 07:29 PM (l312u)

359 Women especially hated Hillary.
Everyone I knew hated Hillary.
Posted by: redridinghood
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Even Democrats hated her, there's a reason she lost to Obama and almost lost again to Bernie Sanders.

But the media had bulldozed public opinion that she was some elder statesmen and "her turn".

Trump is now our version of Hillary, buy WAY worse.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:29 PM (cOFom)

360 Said before, 4 years of the Democrats Propaganda Ministry working day and night against him and DJT had more votes than the 1st election.

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2023 07:29 PM (MOY79)

361 I would recommend the 280mm votes, from the M65 Atomic Cannon. That'll do the job.
Posted by: The Maquis of Detroit at August 21, 2023 07:29 PM (ffgB2)

It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 21, 2023 07:29 PM (X07E4)

362 Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:26 PM (cOFom)

Lmao. Most votes ever by the GOP candidate, biggest increase ever, but yes, Biden outperformed Obama in black areas.

Oh and the all the “lolz were stopping the count for now” then all illegal activities that went on to guarantee Biden wins in a spectacular mathematical impossibility us just politics.

But yea, do keep fucking that chicken.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:30 PM (4U+62)

363 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 07:28 PM (QsOFZ)

They're not. They're doing what they did in 2022, when they spent millions of dollars to boost Trump-endorsed candidates in Republican primaries in the correct expectation they'd be easier to beat. They know how to manipulate MAGA into self-destructing.

By the way, Trump sure is a threat to the uniparty/deepstate/establishment that they prop up his candidates in primaries, right?

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:30 PM (0p/Tu)

364 360 Said before, 4 years of the Democrats Propaganda Ministry working day and night against him and DJT had more votes than the 1st election.
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2023 07:29 PM (MOY79)

Quiet skip. Everyone hated him.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 21, 2023 07:30 PM (X07E4)

365 Covid and all the illegal rule changes for voting really screwed Trump.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2023 07:30 PM (NpAcC)

366 The funny thing is that Trump himself knows 2020 was "legit", or else he wouldn't be running again.

I think he got screwed. But, at the same time, I'm not marching anywhere when the man goes golfing for two weeks while he's getting screwed.

Frankly ? I think Donald Trump has exactly the attention span he always shows in social media. He's a mess. He can't focus longer than five minutes. But he always has that NYC rich arrogance. That assumption he's in charge of every room.

Posted by: Reality at August 21, 2023 07:31 PM (B43Dp)

367 360 Said before, 4 years of the Democrats Propaganda Ministry working day and night against him and DJT had more votes than the 1st election.
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2023

Like Bush?

Posted by: Montec at August 21, 2023 07:31 PM (2MNmu)

368 Meatwad would be lucky to get 50mil votes. Lucky.

I might've voted for him some other cycle.

But please...

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 21, 2023 07:31 PM (jQ/PM)

369 Posted by: Tracy at August 21, 2023 07:29 PM (8G2gV)

What's your opinion on Trump tanking against Biden?

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:31 PM (0p/Tu)

370 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 07:28 PM (QsOFZ)

It’s because he’s so unlikable bro.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:31 PM (4U+62)

371 Agreed. He should’ve order the military to take over the election systems in PA, GA, AZ and MI.

General Milley's military would have found that Xi Jinping won the 2020 election.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 21, 2023 07:32 PM (p8A+W)

372 Lmao. Most votes ever by the GOP candidate, biggest increase ever, but yes, Biden outperformed Obama in black areas.

Posted by: thathalfrican

yes, Trump brings out more Dem votes than Obama's hope and change schtick.

Not surprising at all.

The people I know that are Dems were WAY more animated in their Trump hatred than adoration for Obama.

That's just it, Trump brings out votes, just more for his opponent than him. And the he also inspires Dems to write the big checks.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:32 PM (cOFom)

373 There is a nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 21, 2023 07:32 PM (X07E4)

374 Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:30 PM (0p/Tu)

Are you a wizard?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:32 PM (4U+62)

375 Right, it's important to thoroughly quiz Trump and hold him accountable.
At the same time as Democrat candidates like Biden are allowed to campaign from their basement and are never held accountable by the press, getting both the questions and the answers in advance for their interviews.
But what if Carlson isn't sufficiently tough on Trump? This is the real issue.

Posted by: PG at August 21, 2023 07:32 PM (84jHt)

376 Big difference between the "stolen election" crap Trump keeps pushing (which he has yet to explain in any detail) and election irregularities like mail
In ballots, voter roll issues, usurping of legislative authority, etc. Along with his pick to head the GOP this ensures the status quo from the last election in which he lost to Biden. Trump's negatives are far too high and no candidate, no matter how bad the incumbent is, has ever overcome that.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2023 07:33 PM (ifHdv)

377 Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:32 PM (cOFom)

Please. Just stop.

Btw love the fact you just ignored the blatant fraud.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:33 PM (4U+62)

378 Like Bush?
Posted by: Montec
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And I hate Bush, but Bush actually won the popular vote in 2004. So I guess thatputs Trumps' record to shame.

Enough with the "Trump is a Republican MVP"

Much of Trump's bigger vote totals is simply more people voting by mail.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:34 PM (cOFom)

379 Trump was miles ahead in PA until 3 am. Then he magically lost votes and 100's of thousands of "votes" came in for the vegetable. Same in the other shutdown states. Repub's in AZ same thing. Ga too. etc.

Posted by: free tibet at August 21, 2023 07:34 PM (iNp3L)

380 "He indicated, in his typical, detiorating-mental-health all-caps way..."

Ace is the one whose brain is failing.

"Trump will pull his usual bullshit move and try to get better ratings that the people he's up against by doing an interview with Tucker Carlson."

It is better that Trump let himself be peppered with dicey questions from a cadre of NeverTrump assholes that his lawyers are telling him he should not answer?

It's not smarter to demolish the debate instead with an actual opportunity to get his message out?

Trump is not coy. He answers question after question fully and intelligently, and Carlson let's him do that, instead of trying to block him at every turn like FOX/Murdoch and the NeverTrump half the party running the debate will do.

Ace is reverting back to his early 2016 NeverTrump persona. Remember those days Ace, and how stupid you were? I sure do.

Always a fan, still a fan, but this shit is seriously annoying.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at August 21, 2023 07:34 PM (wh9C3)

381
Btw love the fact you just ignored the blatant fraud.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One

Trump ignored the blatant fraud, why else is he running again?

He clearly doesnt believe its all rigged like his supporters do.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:34 PM (cOFom)

382 Has anyone who claims 2020 is rigged as a way of justifying Trump getting his teeth kicked in ever attempted to explain why 2024 would not be rigged? If the answer is "They'll rig that one too", then why is Trump running? If you believe 2020 was rigged, the logical conclusion is that when Trump claims he can win in 2024, he's either stupid or a liar.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:34 PM (0p/Tu)

383 Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2023 07:33 PM (ifHdv)

So, you don’t think the election was stolen?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:35 PM (4U+62)

384 How many states illegally changed voting law? How did PA get to ignore the Sumpreme court?
Stolen electon. Yes.

Posted by: free tibet at August 21, 2023 07:35 PM (iNp3L)

385 Trump was miles ahead in PA until 3 am. Then he magically lost votes and 100's of thousands of "votes" came in for the vegetable. Same in the other shutdown states. Repub's in AZ same thing. Ga too. etc.
Posted by: free tibet
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Because he told his supporters to not vote early. The mail ins were counted last. So of course those votes were all Dem.

Now, he's changed his tune, and is all for ballot harvesting.

Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:35 PM (cOFom)

386 Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:34 PM (cOFom)

What’s he supposed to do? Almost no place would give anyone a fair shake.

No standing remember?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:36 PM (4U+62)

387 Ace,
Considering that several years ago you were hunted by a tyrannical communist wannabe using the same lawfare tactics used on Trump to expose you and others. I’m surprised you don’t get it. You are the example of how easily anyone get can treated just like Trump, yet you choose not to see that either.

Posted by: Whippet at August 21, 2023 07:36 PM (08pJ9)

388 Trump is either gonna win this time or the GOP will enter a wilderness for a very long time, maybe forever

cuz most Trump supporters like myself are never going cozy up the establishment candidate

like Shrub, a fucking idiot that is still destroying the country

one day, the NTers are gonna find out that neverism is two way street

I have never witnessed what the NTers started in 2016, in either party

they are children, at best

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2023 07:37 PM (us2H3)

389 Along with his pick to head the GOP this ensures the status quo from the last election in which he lost to Biden. Trump's negatives are far too high and no candidate, no matter how bad the incumbent is, has ever overcome that.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2023 07:33 PM (ifHdv)

———-

Trump didn’t pick any GOP head. He didn’t support or endorse McDaniels.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 21, 2023 07:37 PM (l312u)

390
Because he told his supporters to not vote early. The mail ins were counted last. So of course those votes were all Dem.

Now, he's changed his tune, and is all for ballot harvesting.

How to you lose votes already counted?

Posted by: free tibet at August 21, 2023 07:37 PM (iNp3L)

391 "So, you don’t think the election was stolen?
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:35 PM (4U+62)"

You know I love you in a manly way brother. But all that Dominion crap is unproven. You want to talk about registration issues, mail in, harvesting, electoral lawfare, SOS's usurping legislative authority im with you. There was a lot not on the up and up. But nobody is chasing any of that because Trump has every follower on the stolen wagon, and most of them believe they can just out vote this. That ain't happening. We need action, not slogans.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2023 07:38 PM (ifHdv)

392 So, you don’t think the election was stolen?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:35 PM (4U+62)

I believe it was. But you play on the table in front of you. Bitching about the rigged game does no good, unless you get up and leave.

Too Sweet !!!

Posted by: Reality at August 21, 2023 07:38 PM (B43Dp)

393 "
Trump didn’t pick any GOP head. He didn’t support or endorse McDaniels.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 21, 2023 07:37 PM (l312u)"

Bullshit. Google is your friend.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2023 07:38 PM (ifHdv)

394 Uncritically posting from the same interview where the fat piece of shit Barr sat there and covered for Biden's blatant bribery and corruption.

I'll check back in April I guess.

Posted by: Sjg at August 21, 2023 07:40 PM (Lstct)

395 DeSantis is so popular he’s trailing Vivek. Listless vessels indeed.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:17 PM (4U+62)

Yep, might have an argument is the DeSantis campaign went somewhere. It has been a complete failure to this point.

Posted by: WOPR at August 21, 2023 07:40 PM (WFJRS)

396 382 Has anyone who claims 2020 is rigged as a way of justifying Trump getting his teeth kicked in ever attempted to explain why 2024 would not be rigged? If the answer is "They'll rig that one too", then why is Trump running? If you believe 2020 was rigged, the logical conclusion is that when Trump claims he can win in 2024, he's either stupid or a liar.
Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:34 PM (0p/Tu)

How about forcing the Communists to steal it again? At some point someone as dense as you will catch on.

Posted by: Mhandisi at August 21, 2023 07:40 PM (EghWm)

397 I harken back to 2019 when people began to notice that Trump wasn't acting like a POTUS who wanted to win the 2020 election but just going though the motions for that sweet sweet $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
There is much truth in that if you were paying attention.

Posted by: Eagle Lips at August 21, 2023 07:41 PM (D1hSI)

398 Posted by: Mhandisi at August 21, 2023 07:40 PM (EghWm)

Letting an election be stolen from you is an accomplishment? You guys really love losing.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:42 PM (0p/Tu)

399 Posted by: Reality at August 21, 2023 07:38 PM (B43Dp)

Oh shit!

My man!

Hit the email if so inclined. Otherwise I’ll hit you up later.

Agree. I just don’t think anyone has shot but Trump. Trump/RFK would be one hell of a ticket.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:42 PM (4U+62)

400 Someone is, apparently, confused as to who is running the country. Mr lol 81 million votes and is perpetually on vacation is running the country. Trump, who is ahead in the poles and does not need to debate and especially for the clown RNC, is not running the country.

Posted by: Isolden at August 21, 2023 07:44 PM (dB99g)

401 Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2023 07:38 PM (ifHdv)

I got nothing but love for you as well. Do we need a refresher on that graph where Trump was beating the pedophile handidly? Then out of nowhere in a mathematical impossibility Biden catches up and overtakes him?

The shutting down of four swing states around the same time? People being caught on tape pulling suitcases from under tables, admitting on camera to voter fraud etc etc?

Trump hit every single note that signals not just a win, but a colossal landslide win. Conversely Biden loses almost every election indicator but wins?

It’s virtually impossible.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:46 PM (4U+62)

402 Vivek is definitely the most well-spoken and charismatic among the likely Repub contenders. He might be full of shit (some of his proposals will never fly, I know that) but I don't see bullshit yet. Charisma and elocution are only assets when it's a Democrat, when it's GOP, they're just "slick-talking", in the eyes of the mass media.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 21, 2023 07:46 PM (2cS/G)

403 Brian Kemp signed into law a six-week abortion ban, blocked Medicaid expansion, and then ran against the Democrats' dreamboat Stacey Abrams, who actually outspent him...and won.

In a state Trump supposedly lost because of fraud. I guess Kemp's in on it all, eh?

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:47 PM (0p/Tu)

404 The Republican Party can get behind Trump in 2024 or they can die as a political entity.

They helped steal 2020, so they can either try to make up for it (plus the damage their complicity has done to America) or they can got to hell for the rest of history.

I'll not lose sleep over their demise. Fuck them.

Posted by: Tracy at August 21, 2023 07:49 PM (8G2gV)

405 Because he told his supporters to not vote early. The mail ins were counted last. So of course those votes were all Dem.

Now, he's changed his tune, and is all for ballot harvesting.
Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2023 07:35 PM (cOFom)

——-

As any normal person, Trump finds mail in ballots to be an easy avenue of fraud, especially when combined with throwing ballots out like Pez candy.

I’m sure you agree.

However, Trump didn’t tell anyone not to mail in ballots nor vote early.

Regarding holding mail in ballots until Election Day, that is a process to facilitate fraud, plain and simple.

And Trump was winning until someone made the decision to stop counting and kick out observers. Perhaps you were not aware of that.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 21, 2023 07:50 PM (l312u)

406 Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:47 PM (0p/Tu)

If Brian Kemp is your final authority on all of this, you’re a bigger dipshit than I could have imagined.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:52 PM (4U+62)

407 The shutting down of four swing states around the same time? People being caught on tape pulling suitcases from under tables, admitting on camera to voter fraud etc etc?

Four states shut counting down within 15 minutes. But, hey, whatevs.

It's the same shit that football fans scream. Again, mostly Boomers. You have to "play through" the bad calls, right ?

No. If the calls are bad enough, the game is not remotely fair. And many games are simply not fair. Even gamblers embrace that, regarding the 3 to 7 point edge in home field.

Most games are rigged.

Posted by: Reality at August 21, 2023 07:52 PM (B43Dp)

408 Theo, only a fool doesn't already know that Kemp was in on stealing 2020 in Georgia. He's one of the biggest RINO pieces of shite on the planet.

Posted by: Tracy at August 21, 2023 07:52 PM (8G2gV)

409 Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 21, 2023 07:52 PM (4U+62)

Posted by: Tracy at August 21, 2023 07:52 PM (8G2gV)

I didn't say Kemp was an authority, only that he won re-election and Georgia twice, something Trump couldn't do.

It's not his fault that Trump lost a state every other Republican had won for decades.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:53 PM (0p/Tu)

410 Why exactly would Brian Kemp steal 2020 from his own party's president? What's his motive? Almost like Trump bootlickers are making up bullshit on the spot.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:54 PM (0p/Tu)

411 If Brian Kemp is your final authority on all of this, you’re a bigger dipshit than I could have imagined.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at

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Don't miss #111 if you didn't see it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 21, 2023 07:55 PM (QsOFZ)

412 Why exactly would Brian Kemp steal 2020 from his own party's president?

Easy answer. The GOP would rather lose than win with Trump. How many Senators and Reps need to "retire" before that sinks in ?

Posted by: Reality at August 21, 2023 07:56 PM (B43Dp)

413 Trump didn’t pick any GOP head. He didn’t support or endorse McDaniels.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 21, 2023 07:37 PM (l312u)"

Bullshit. Google is your friend.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2023 07:38 PM (ifHdv)

———-

Then use it.

Business Insider:

Trump stopped short of endorsing any candidate for RNC chair: 'Let them fight it out'

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 21, 2023 07:56 PM (l312u)

414 If Trump ends up going to prison, and it's more likely he does than ends up as president again, it's because of three things that he did:

1) Turn over the federal government to Joe Biden and the Democrats in 2020.

2) Loudly brag on tape about breaking the law.

3) Obstruct efforts from actual conservatives to dislodge Biden from office in 2024.

If he doesn't do one of these three things, he'd be fine legally. But he did all three. Please, tell me more to feel sorry for the billionaire politician who doesn't care about anyone but himself!

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:56 PM (0p/Tu)

415 Link in nic

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 21, 2023 07:56 PM (l312u)

416 Posted by: Reality at August 21, 2023 07:56 PM (B43Dp)

Why didn't Nathan Deal, who's less conservative than Kemp, steal Georgia in 2016 then?

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 07:57 PM (0p/Tu)

417 Glad to see the democrats plan of splitting up what’s left of us conservatives is working so well!

Back to eat zee bugs and live in zee pod. That 4 year Trump interruption was so annoying!

Posted by: Justin Castreau at August 21, 2023 08:22 PM (V8yYW)

418 So when Trump violates his bail conditions and the "Lock him up" chants start, with the Secret Service let him be locked up? Will they stay with him in jail to prevent him from getting an Epstein Special from Hillary as payback? Or will they be on break when he 'suicides'?

Posted by: Stacy0311 at August 21, 2023 08:23 PM (P13u7)

419 Why didn't Nathan Deal, who's less conservative than Kemp, steal Georgia in 2016 then?

Easy answer. They didn't think they needed to. 2016 was a live data view of the arrogance of the DNC. 2020 was a live look at how quickly the DNC learns.

Posted by: Reality at August 21, 2023 08:26 PM (O7H/9)

420 "55 Trump is not doing the debates because of the requirement to support whoever won the nomination."

Jeb, Kasich, etc. signed that loyalty pledge in 2016 and proceeded to not support Trump once he won the primary. There's zero reason for any of the candidates to play by the RNC rules when the rules are not equally enforced.

"Why exactly would Brian Kemp steal 2020 from his own party's president?"

Same reason a record number of (r)s retired in 2018 to hand the House to Pelosi on a silver platter after working overtime with Paul Ryan to block Trump's agenda save for tax cuts.

Kemp is the southern state equivalent of former "highest approval rating in the nation" Governor Charlie Baker (r) in Massachusetts.

Surprised Ace is still on team DeSantis after the disaster of a campaign shows Ron has the same personnel as policy shortcomings and personality issues (of a different flavor) that turn people off. I would have thought Ace would be on team Vivek by now.

Posted by: OhNoNotTheBees at August 21, 2023 08:28 PM (AyznQ)

421 While Ace teaching us to hate trump he taught me to hate him. I think Andrew Breitbart would have rather have the commenters rather than Ace.

Posted by: johnnybiface at August 21, 2023 08:31 PM (v7uSj)

422 “America is ending, and not gracefully.”

Retards can’t tell the difference between the United States and America.

Posted by: gray_man at August 21, 2023 08:43 PM (uQU+f)

423 Theo and Blago you should head back to NRO, or maybe it's DU. Anyway, I'm sure they miss you.

Posted by: doc at August 21, 2023 08:44 PM (7c8Fz)

424 Is Ace drunk-blogging? What's with the Orange man hate over his decision to not debate in the primaries? He's so far ahead in the polls over all of the other nominees that it makes no sense to attend the debate. There is no upside for him to do so. I just don't get Ace's logic in that somehow Trump is destroying democracy and traditions for not attending the Republican debate. In 2023, seriously?

Posted by: Legioinvictus at August 21, 2023 08:44 PM (BHzsY)

425 Just who the F is listening to Bill Barr, other than progressives, his new besties?

Posted by: West at August 21, 2023 08:48 PM (QY+6a)

426 “So much winning, you'll get sick of all the winning.”

C’mon, Ace. If you’re gonna insult Trump at least be clever. Don’t just straight up use the same rote insults the left has been throwing at him since 2016.

You’re better than this.

Posted by: SHCon at August 21, 2023 08:49 PM (a53Qe)

427 Bill Barr? I thought he moved to Sonoma County to be the Bohemian Club crossing guard.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at August 21, 2023 08:50 PM (glGDV)

428 An indication it's a political prosecution to me is that prohibition against "intimidating witnesses." It's ALWAYS against the law to intimidate witnesses. Making that a prohibition for bond is a way of saying "We'll call anything intimidation, 'cause we're gonna get you."

Posted by: GWB at August 21, 2023 08:52 PM (fRgg4)

429 I gotta say, the real irony here is making one post about people "still suffering from TDS?" and then clearly answering the question in the affirmative.

You're no less suffering from TDS that the one shrieking "STOP FILMING"

No, you're right, until today, Trump never, EVER used all caps. Must be declining mental health. Good fucking christ.

Posted by: deadrody at August 21, 2023 08:54 PM (kYmXc)

430 8 >>>6 Speaking of "Public Trump Derangement Syndrome Meltdowns"

of course all criticism of Your Fucking God is illegitimate and a "meltdown," right?

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2023 06:24 PM (KRtlO)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

By all means, continue your public TDS meltdown

Posted by: deadrody at August 21, 2023 08:56 PM (kYmXc)

431 Oh, and continue bashing your "Trump cultists that worship every word Trump says like God" strawman

Bash, bash, bash

Posted by: deadrody at August 21, 2023 08:57 PM (kYmXc)

432 Oh, hey. Ace said that. Heh.

Posted by: GWB at August 21, 2023 09:06 PM (fRgg4)

433 Posted by: deadrody at August 21, 2023 08:57 PM (kYmXc)

There's a substantially higher chance Trump ends up in a federal penitentiary than the White House, and the reason lies in his own idiotic actions and dead enders like you who cheered on his pathetic self-destruction.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 09:09 PM (1qKXb)

434 Debates, polls, etc..it's all just bullshit now. 90% of America already knows, either I vote for Trump or not for Trump. It's just that simple.

Posted by: YGMSMrtnow at August 21, 2023 09:10 PM (o+IWE)

435 Posted by: OhNoNotTheBees at August 21, 2023 08:28 PM (AyznQ)

Kemp is far more conservative and successful than Trump. It emasculates and humiliates Trump that Kemp had a tougher job than Trump did and succeeded where Trump failed.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 09:12 PM (1qKXb)

436 The irony is that every single Trump bootlicker here predicates their entire worldview on the idea that Trump is a helpless loser easily defeated by everyone.

I agree, but my takeaway is to ditch him, not let him get smashed yet again.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 09:14 PM (1qKXb)

437 It’s as if Matt Drudge and Charles Johnson kidnapped Ace and stole the blog.

Posted by: Whippet at August 21, 2023 09:39 PM (08pJ9)

438 That “x” just goes to show that we need to

1. SHUT UP.
2. Roll over.
3. DIE.
4. Take an oath of absolute loyalty to Mr. Trump.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 21, 2023 09:47 PM (lE1L7)

439 If I know one thing, it’s that tomorrow the sun will rise and like clock work David Reaboi, Pedro Gonzalez, Jordan Schachtel, and now Ace will continue their strawman bashing against “Trump cultists that worship every word Trump says like God.”

Posted by: JimmyJ at August 21, 2023 09:50 PM (QHWnh)

440 What's hilarious here is that the likelihood of either Trump or Biden being in the '24 election is almost nil.

Talk about using up your ammo shooting at boojums.

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Posted by: www.Payathome7.com at August 21, 2023 10:04 PM (17dbQ)

442 Ace, you're just like me!

Posted by: A Fucking Asshole at August 21, 2023 10:05 PM (K7FU5)

443
I . . . I'm out. Too much vitriol.

Posted by: Sphynx at August 21, 2023 10:06 PM (NldOD)

444 Recently I’ve been mistaking this for the Powerline blog. You don’t want Trump, Ace. Sure. But don’t mimic the limp dickery of professional Republicans. On this issue there’s not as much daylight between you and them as you realize.

Posted by: Lex at August 21, 2023 10:09 PM (QlUHh)

445 I like DeSantis and am sick and tired of Trump and his BS about Ron. Trump hired Pence, Barr,Wray,Sessions, Cohen, Daniels, Scaramouchi, and many more losers. He got rid of all his supporters after he took office. Brannon, Preibus, etc. and replaced them with RINO losers. He praised Paul Ryan and gave MCConnell’s wife a job. He will never win the general election. Never built the wall and he added to the swamp.

Posted by: alan stern at August 21, 2023 10:35 PM (eEwCQ)

446 Kemp succeeded where Trump failed? 😆

Boy, those are some strong magic markers you're sniffing there, Theo. You're either a leftwing troll, paid hack or just a crap stirrer. Whichever it is, we all see through you.

Posted by: Tracy at August 21, 2023 10:36 PM (8G2gV)

447 Get a grip ACE, these are primary debates, within the same party, with a bunch of candidates that do not have a chance.

Posted by: that guy at August 21, 2023 10:49 PM (h5Avx)

448 I am sad that after all these years coming to this site every day, to find that I am not in tune with most of you folks here. Ace hates Trump and apparently so do most of you. He will win the nomination. Who knows about the general election because we are fed such gaslighting bullshit constantly and nothing has been done to fix election rigging. What is happening to Trump is destroying this country—it is no longer about him. And yet you folks prefer to hate him for being uncouth. Many Americans back Trump, as do I. I am sorry to be so out of sync with this site.

Posted by: AnnaS at August 21, 2023 11:00 PM (4MJ7n)

449 Trump is a 75+ million vote Republican.

Desantis was a 60 million vote Republican before he committed political seppuku with his "Listless vessels" remark.

Desantis is now a 30 million vote Republican because most Republican voters will support a 3rd party candidate if the GOPe somehow installs him as the nominee.

Ace and the other NeverTrumpers here do not understand the working class voters that support Trump. They do not understand the millions of people that have never had representation before Trump.

Posted by: Achilles at August 21, 2023 11:09 PM (bzsXQ)

450 Wow. This place has become a halfway house into the Bulwark. Sad. Gave me a lot of good laughs over the years and some keen insights. But Trump flushes out all hidden things of the heart I guess.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at August 21, 2023 11:15 PM (cuS3i)

451 Since this fucker attacked Casey DeSantis, Ron should go for the throat: “the real question is—who is Melania going to fuck when you’re locked up?”

Posted by: MarleysGhost at August 21, 2023 11:20 PM (9L3dT)

452 Posted by: Achilles at August 21, 2023 11:09 PM (bzsXQ)

The reason Trump and his underlings have failed time and time again is because of the complete reality disconnect exhibited here.

"Desantis is now a 30 million vote Republican because most Republican voters will support a 3rd party candidate if the GOPe somehow installs him as the nominee."

"They do not understand the millions of people that have never had representation before Trump. "

A large majority of the "people" hate Donald Trump. Working-class voters have rejected him over and over again, and your response is to call them vermin and declare that they don't matter.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 11:31 PM (ES8R5)

453 Posted by: Tracy at August 21, 2023 10:36 PM (8G2gV)

Yes, Kemp won re-election, which is a superior strategy to Trump's "lose, then complain it was rigged and use that to raise hundreds of millions of dollars that I then embezzle."

Of course, being a bootlicker, you can't acknowledge anything objective like election results. Having humiliatingly lost over and over again on account of regular people rejecting you in elections, you have to conjure up invisible fights and say that those matter more than anything tangible. That way, you can say that Trump is winning them and Kemp is losing them.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 11:34 PM (ES8R5)

454 As one person put it, Trump is:

"a... leader whose fanatical followers are unable to admit his errors; indeed, they see him as incapable of error, and their support for him, in the absence of actual accomplishments, rests purely on '‘They’re’ all against him! He’s a champion of us, but ‘they’ sabotaged him from day one. His misfortunes are never due to his own actions.'"

Go ahead and tell me that doesn't describe Trump bootlicking to a T.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 11:36 PM (ES8R5)

455 After 4 terrible years of Joke Biden's administration, the American voting public will damn well expect Joke Biden to show up to a debate and at least attempt to defend his policies and vision going forward. If Joke Biden declares he won't participate, his cratering poll numbers will crash through the basement floor.
He has to show up for the debates or even his cheat-machine can't get him in shouting distance of delivering him electoral "victory".
The conservative Republican base, on the other hand, does not mind if Trump skips the idiotic primary debates. We absolutely applaud him for it.
Now do you see the difference?

Posted by: Bach in Black at August 21, 2023 11:44 PM (dBoDT)

456 Some think that Trump is the leader of "The MAGA Vote"... In reality, Trump is our chosen tool to wrest back the Party and the Country from the Tammany Hall elites that work in unison with the left.

Trump is misunderstood by leftists and the driveable right, because Trump fights. Even when he negotiates a compromise, he's playing to win. The moral slurry in the RNC can not fathom such tactics.

De Santis is lost and out of his depth with his Hillaryesque pronouncements. Newsom took a State with a superavit and promptly turned that into a major deficit. Not to mention his penchant for booze and nose-candy...

The fact is that PDJT has a large advantage over the political pretenders hired by the donor class.

Posted by: Augusto Perez at August 21, 2023 11:48 PM (axxam)

457 Posted by: Bach in Black at August 21, 2023 11:44 PM (dBoDT)

Trump already got demolished by Biden('s campaign team) once before.

"Biden's so bad, we can't lose to him!"

In 2022, Biden's endorsed candidates slaughtered Trump's. Utter annihilation as one Trump candidate after another was wiped out.

The Biden wing of American politics has eviscerated Trump's wing twice in a row, the second time under what should have been an easy lay-up for the GOP. But things will be different in 2024.

Posted by: Theo at August 21, 2023 11:52 PM (SNcqh)

458 Hear, hear! - Augusto Perez @ comment #456!
I think you're on to something, my good man.

The Demonrats have NOTHING to put forward in the way of a presidential contender in 2024.
Besides that, it's pure fantasy that they'll be running someone other than Joke Biden or Acid-Tripping Harris at the top of the ticket.
They're stuck with one or the other. And the one is worse than the other.

We, on the other hand, are NOT going to fuck up and run a GOPe stooge like DeSantis.

We have a champion in Trump.

Posted by: Bach in Black at August 21, 2023 11:58 PM (dBoDT)

459 Theo whatever bad hashish you've been smoking that's caused you to think droolin' Biden out-debated Trump in 2020, go get your money back.

Posted by: Bach in Black at August 21, 2023 11:59 PM (dBoDT)

460 Posted by: Bach in Black at August 21, 2023 11:59 PM (dBoDT)

I didn't say he out-debated him, I said Trump got his balls ripped off and shoved down his throat by the worst Democratic presidential campaign in modern history. Your "champion" couldn't overpower a half-dead dementia patient. No, I don't care you think it was rigged. Winners don't make excuses.

Posted by: Theo at August 22, 2023 12:01 AM (SNcqh)

461 Like I said, dude, stop toking that stuff. You're start to make as much sense as the Joke Biden himself.

Posted by: Bach in Black at August 22, 2023 12:02 AM (dBoDT)

462 Posted by: Bach in Black at August 22, 2023 12:02 AM (dBoDT)

You know, Biden beat Trump. Every time you insult him, you're really just insulting Trump.

Posted by: Theo at August 22, 2023 12:03 AM (SNcqh)

463 Good one, Theo.
That one really burnt like hot sauce.

Posted by: Bach in Black at August 22, 2023 12:04 AM (dBoDT)

464 Why not just chant, "I know you are but what am I!"?
"Times infinity!!"

Posted by: Bach in Black at August 22, 2023 12:05 AM (dBoDT)

465 That or talk some more about how you like to manhandle male genitalia. - That makes you sound so tough, dude.
No, seriously, it really does.
Do some more of that.

Posted by: Bach in Black at August 22, 2023 12:06 AM (dBoDT)

466 Posted by: Bach in Black at August 22, 2023 12:05 AM (dBoDT)

You know, if Trump gets the nomination, he's going to have to cope with the utter humiliation of losing twice to Joe Biden.

Posted by: Theo at August 22, 2023 12:07 AM (SNcqh)

467 Oh, Theoooo... you didn't get your little feelings hurt did you?

I was just kidding, man.

You're really smart.
Everybody knows how really very smart you are.

It's okay.

Posted by: Bach in Black at August 22, 2023 12:07 AM (dBoDT)

468 Posted by: Bach in Black at August 22, 2023 12:07 AM (dBoDT)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem upset.

Posted by: Theo at August 22, 2023 12:08 AM (SNcqh)

469 Yep, nothin' fresh comin' out of that pump, there, eh Theo?
Bit of dry well you got there.
Nothing original, huh.
Let me be the first to clue you on how boring your feeble attempts at insults are.

Posted by: Bach in Black at August 22, 2023 12:09 AM (dBoDT)

470 Why would I bother correcting a walking fallacy.

Posted by: Bach in Black at August 22, 2023 12:10 AM (dBoDT)

471 Posted by: Bach in Black at August 22, 2023 12:09 AM (dBoDT)

Yes, you're doing a good job of seeming that you're not at all mad.

Posted by: Theo at August 22, 2023 12:11 AM (SNcqh)

472 Like your colleagues, I'm bored with you.
Ta ta.

Posted by: Bach in Black at August 22, 2023 12:12 AM (dBoDT)

473 Posted by: Bach in Black at August 22, 2023 12:12 AM (dBoDT)

Yes, it's boredom and not seething. You did a good job of showing that you're Not Mad, Actually.

Posted by: Theo at August 22, 2023 12:13 AM (SNcqh)

474 @Theo 460

Biden "out-debated" Trump? All Biden did was lie during that debate; which normies are only finding out this week. You sound as deluded and angry as Ace.

Posted by: Oats at August 22, 2023 05:45 AM (/C/qC)

475 Ace's tantrums over Meatball getting his ass whipped get better with each new outburst.

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Posted by: www.Payathome7.com at August 22, 2023 10:13 AM (GBXrL)

477 "6 Speaking of "Public Trump Derangement Syndrome Meltdowns"
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at August 21, 2023 06:22 PM (WiAW9)"

No kidding.

85% of the country wanted Fauci and lockdowns. And we assume the Chief Executives orders are followed by those that spied on him...

Posted by: Danimal28 at August 22, 2023 02:59 PM (klw0w)

478 Nobody is asking the "Coved Task Force" leader Mike Pence about his actions.

Besides, your state governor's locked you down and enforced mask mandates, not the Executive Branch of the country.

YOU wanted vaccine's folks... We wanted and found horse dewormer that actually helped us.

Posted by: Danimal28 at August 22, 2023 03:03 PM (klw0w)

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