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The Very Special Counsel Jack Smith Asks Judge for a Protective Order Against Trump
His fee-fees were hurt! He is a-scared that Trump will literally erase his existence you guys!
Trump posted on Truth Social Friday night the following statement: 'IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I'M COMING AFTER YOU' That was the entire post. One statement in all caps. Smith entered it into evidence Friday night shortly after Trump posted it. This is an indication that Smith's team is actively monitoring Trump's social media posts. They struck gold with what Smith considers a threat to himself, though Trump didn't name any names. Smith alleges the post is a threat to potential witnesses while Team Trump claims Smith is attacking political speech used by Trump. Trump faces allegations of trying to intimidate witnesses. Defendants are provided with evidence against them (discovery) but they cannot publicize it. ... Trump had to have known that Smith would pounce on that post. Smith is determined to show that Trump is intimidating potential witnesses in his case against Trump. He is doing everything he can to toss Trump into jail and prevent him from running against Joe Biden in 2024. Democrats are afraid that Biden is such a weak candidate that in order to keep him in office, Trump must be jailed. This is truly uncharted territory in presidential elections.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Inogame at August 07, 2023 01:37 PM (53oGX)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 01:38 PM (/iWhV)
Posted by: Little Jack Smith at August 07, 2023 01:39 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 07, 2023 01:39 PM (B1FKF)
Posted by: It's me donna at August 07, 2023 01:39 PM (bs+z0)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 07, 2023 01:39 PM (TZ75n)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 07, 2023 01:39 PM (0FoWg)
Oh, wait...that was Obama.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 01:39 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at August 07, 2023 01:39 PM (oGiDo)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 07, 2023 01:39 PM (EVR4i)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 07, 2023 01:39 PM (KxMNK)
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2023 01:39 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 07, 2023 01:40 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Regular joe at August 07, 2023 01:40 PM (nnp+f)
Posted by: toddg at August 07, 2023 01:40 PM (B3RQo)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 07, 2023 01:39 PM (0FoWg)
This.
Posted by: kathysaysso at August 07, 2023 01:40 PM (yACxx)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 07, 2023 01:40 PM (xTRSc)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 01:40 PM (ynpvh)
The Left referring to Trump.
The Right referring to the Left.
Posted by: rd at August 07, 2023 01:40 PM (FCNwI)
Posted by: dave's not here, man at August 07, 2023 01:41 PM (raPis)
https://tinyurl.com/mw9yb4pk
Posted by: Marcus T at August 07, 2023 01:41 PM (ATSTk)
"I want to tell you Gorsuch, I want to tell you Kavanaugh - you have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price. You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions," Schumer told the cheering crowd.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 07, 2023 01:41 PM (B1FKF)
Posted by: Regular joe at August 07, 2023 01:40 PM (nnp+f)
Also, me.
Posted by: Tuco at August 07, 2023 01:41 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Bete at August 07, 2023 01:41 PM (BKMOA)
Well, yea. That and he's Jewish . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 07, 2023 01:41 PM (iFTx/)
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LOL. This entire complex of exercises since 2015 has been attacking Trump's political speech and prosecuting him for the same.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 07, 2023 01:41 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 07, 2023 01:41 PM (Q4IgG)
Never threaten. Just do. -- Mr. Magagi or Vito Corleone. If forget which.
Posted by: Regular joe
Yoda
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 07, 2023 01:41 PM (63Dwl)
Some 'special' counsel. Walk it off you simpering cvck.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 01:42 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 07, 2023 01:39 PM (TZ75n)
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That about sums it up.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 07, 2023 01:42 PM (DRSnL)
Is bedlam worse than a cataclysm?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 01:42 PM (rc3Z7)
That's right, Ron. 2020 totally wasn't stolen. Yeesh.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 01:42 PM (/iWhV)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Doesn't work if you don't have the populace behind you. And they don't. See Aquino in the PI for example. Same in other places and in many cases was a fatal flaw to the CIA and other intel agencies. Killing a leader presupposes that you can end their following. This might be true for a cult type figure but not true for a political movement--it usually backfires in this cases.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 01:43 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 01:42 PM (rc3Z7)
Go all out.. Armageddon
Posted by: It's me donna at August 07, 2023 01:43 PM (bs+z0)
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 01:43 PM (bk5GW)
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By 1964, no one had voted against Jack Kennedy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 01:43 PM (LvTSG)
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Biden's weakness has nothing to do with the vendetta against Trump. Trump committed the unforgivable sin. He - an outsider with outsider ideas - got uppity and tried to do things in the government. This is unspeakable, unbearable and intolerable. He must be destroyed on general principles.
He had to be stymied and blocked while he was in office and since he didn't just go nip off and kill himself as was proper, his destruction must continue.
The Dems could have the strongest candidate in history and it wouldn't change this one iota.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 07, 2023 01:43 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 01:43 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: Rbastid at August 07, 2023 01:43 PM (vsa2N)
Posted by: blaster at August 07, 2023 01:44 PM (Jk9SN)
Is bedlam worse than a cataclysm?
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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1860 election. But beware of the Biden junta getting into a war with Russia or China in order to try to deflect blame.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 01:44 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by Ace at 02:36 PM Comments
Except in Africa, Eastern Europe, Central and Southn America.
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 07, 2023 01:44 PM (BRHaw)
Is bedlam worse than a cataclysm?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 01:42 PM (rc3Z7)
is a bed lamb worse than a horse head in bed?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 01:44 PM (ynpvh)
Zoom updated their terms of service, and apparently if you accept, you give them the right to steal your voice and your likeness for AI training purposes. You cannot opt out. You cannot protect yourself. And it will be kept in their databanks forever. I'm hoping there's a public huge backlash and they pull out of this nonsense.
https://stackdiary.com/zoom-terms-now-
allow-training-ai-on-user-content-with-no-opt-out/
Posted by: LizLem at August 07, 2023 01:44 PM (eZ4vg)
Posted by: Marcus T at August 07, 2023 01:44 PM (ATSTk)
Messala, "with a better idea."
And the Demoncrats are all out of ideas so it is hammer time.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 01:45 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 07, 2023 01:41 PM (Q4IgG)
EXACTLY
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 07, 2023 01:45 PM (EVR4i)
>>That's right, Ron. 2020 totally wasn't stolen. Yeesh.
Forget about Ron, his political career is over, he'll be on K-Street or at some defense contractor within a month of leaving the Gov Mansion.
You could have been a team player Ron, instead you chose to be a Meatball.
Sad.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 01:45 PM (rc3Z7)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 01:45 PM (DgaYN)
{{{shudder}}}
Posted by: Paul Pelosi at August 07, 2023 01:45 PM (bs+z0)
Meanwhile, the US Navy sent four warships to square off with Russian and Chinese ships off the Aleutian Islands...
https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=145480
I posted Battle of the Komandorski Islands and no one twitched.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 01:45 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: blaster
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Arguably they killed JFK, Martin Luther King, and RFK. Did not really work out for the alleged anti-commie types as leftists used these assassinations and deposing Nixon to gain power culminating in 1974. This put the deep state into retreat until GHWB became president.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 01:46 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 07, 2023 01:39 PM (0FoWg)
I'm thinking this as well. Pray for Trump and his family's safety because the deep state is after all of them. It's a vendetta.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 07, 2023 01:46 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: blaster at August 07, 2023 01:44 PM (Jk9SN)
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Kennedy won through his dad stealing Illinois for him. He had shit the bed at the Bay of Pigs.
The media put up a screen for him, for sure, but to say that he was beloved by the people on November 21, 1963 might be something of a stretch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 01:46 PM (LvTSG)
My news feed all weekend was how Trump has no right to speak about the J6, as that is continuing the fraud and incitement.
Given the judge's history as the cheap, black Merick Garland, I expect a doozy of a gag order.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 07, 2023 01:46 PM (dUa/D)
This has happened in countless sh*thole third world countries; Phillippines, Sudan, Guatemala, Central African Republic, Haiti. Now here.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 07, 2023 01:46 PM (JvZF+)
They are after Trump because they are after Trump. That's it.
Posted by: blaster at August 07, 2023 01:46 PM (Jk9SN)
Fuck around and find out - asshole. This looks like a done deal where TFGs only alternative is to shut up and sit down for the foreseeable future.
I suppose it is Trump free speech to threaten a federal judge.
Arrest him and lock him up before and during trial. How is this not considered a threat!
How much more of this are Americans supposed to endure? It is prima facie evidence that the very coup he attempted to arrange is still very much alive in his mind. He is a threat to democracy but even moreso, he is a threat to peace within the nation. We all know MAGA won't go to war with us en bloc, but exhortations such as this will certainly trigger the unhinged and innocent blood will be shed.
Please, Judge Chutkan, put this to an end. Be merciful.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 07, 2023 01:46 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 07, 2023 01:46 PM (TZ75n)
Posted by: Bete at August 07, 2023 01:41 PM
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I hope so. What got the Duke LaCrosse persecutor disbarred despite "Prosecutoral Immunity" was he got actively involved in the Investigation, and did not rely on the police or his own investigators.
He can prosecute, but he cannot personally investigate, else immunity can be pierced.
Posted by: rd at August 07, 2023 01:46 PM (XDi46)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 01:42 PM (rc3Z7)
Go all out.. Armageddon
Posted by: It's me donna
That escalated quickly.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 07, 2023 01:46 PM (Wy1BU)
Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (bgr7s)
Bedlam was an insane asylum, but enough speaking about DC
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 01:43 PM (DgaYN)
DC: too small to be a state, too big to be an insane asylum
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (MoZTd)
Posted by: It's me donna at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (bs+z0)
Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Do Not Kill at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (0q+t6)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (DgaYN)
>>That's right, Ron. 2020 totally wasn't stolen. Yeesh.
Forget about Ron, his political career is over, he'll be on K-Street or at some defense contractor within a month of leaving the Gov Mansion.
You could have been a team player Ron, instead you chose to be a Meatball.
Sad.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 01:45 PM (rc3Z7)
Trump/Ramaswamy '24. It's our only play.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (/iWhV)
Posted by: paul pelosi at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: Lindsey Graham at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 07, 2023 01:46 PM (JCZqz)
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I think this is why Trump is cooperating (well, one of the reasons). If he's remanded until trial, it will make campaigning nearly impossible.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (3aOHH)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (/iWhV)
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*shrugs shoulders, keeping feeding same ballot through machine another few hundred times*
-one of many in Atlanta
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: the lower depths at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (+b4rY)
If you do the thing you're doing to me, then I'll do the same thing to you. For the prosecutor to think it's about him means he's doing a thing to Trump that Trump is threatening to do back. If it's the worstest thing ever that Trump is threatening, wouldn't that mean that Smith has already done that same worstest thing ever already to Trump. Leftist "thinking" is so extremely shallow.
Posted by: Texas99 at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (VRg+C)
Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (3aOHH)
Another Kraken?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: dave
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Wheeled in like Hannibal Lector.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (b+gh8)
Messala, "with a better idea."
And the Demoncrats are all out of ideas so it is hammer time.
Good one Anna. The dems are also trying to go with the "smother it with a pillow until it stops moving" gambit, when the hammers are too obvious.
Posted by: LizLem at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (eZ4vg)
I'm tired of hearing all Biden & CO's illegal, tyrannical, and fascistic persecution of Trump described as uncharted territory or unprecedented action, instead of, you know-
the illegal, immoral, tyrannical and fascistic persecution of Trump.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (QzZeQ)
And if that sends a warning to anyone else who might challenge the swamp, that is just topping on the Sunday
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (EVR4i)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 01:42 PM (rc3Z7)
Go all out.. Armageddon
Posted by: It's me donna at August 07, 2023 01:43 PM (bs+z0)
surely you mean llamageddon?
Posted by: SturmToddler at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (Mkvkw)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: Sid - Aviators are Off at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (JuxY0)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (0EOe9)
Posted by: REDACTED at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (us2H3)
Posted by: Thomas Bender
alas 2023 is the final year of Bedlam.
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2023 01:49 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Doesn't work if you don't have the populace behind you. And they don't. See Aquino in the PI for example. Same in other places and in many cases was a fatal flaw to the CIA and other intel agencies. Killing a leader presupposes that you can end their following. This might be true for a cult type figure but not true for a political movement--it usually backfires in this cases.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 01:43 PM (bk5GW)
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As Leonidas said in the movie "300"--
"Relax, old friend. If they assassinate me, all of Sparta goes to war. Pray they're that stupid. Pray we're that lucky."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 07, 2023 01:49 PM (YIVH2)
Posted by Ace at 02:36 PM Comments
So was phonying up a fake story to use intelligence services and the media against a major party candidate. Didn't stop them in 2016. Won't stop them for the next thing.
Posted by: ... at August 07, 2023 01:49 PM (CBajr)
I disagree with Whig that US vs Zucker was just about civil law, not criminal - it was about the difference between the two. If you read the ruling, its plain that civil is meant to be treated different than criminal - and that seems to be the idiot mistake made by the DOJ here.
Posted by: Boswell at August 07, 2023 01:49 PM (K+UlC)
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 07, 2023 01:49 PM (krqg6)
>>They are after Trump because they are after Trump. That's it.
I truly believe it goes back to the Obama Birth Certificate Incident, I think that's when they began surveilling Trump and accelerated with the Lock Her Up chants.
And him being a complete outsider with zero dirt or criminality they could leverage against him was the final straw.
At the end of the day, Trumps only vice is banging hot adult women who he ultimately marries.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 01:49 PM (rc3Z7)
Posted by: REDACTED at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (us2H3)
Well, when one smokes cock...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 01:49 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Cocksucker - Aviators are Off at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (C0ck$)
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Alleged, Cocksucker. *Alleged* criminal. Ain't nothin' been proven.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 07, 2023 01:50 PM (t0OGg)
For example, the Benny Thompson lawsuit in conjunction with the NAACP against former PDT. July 21, 2021 Press Release: "In an effort to avoid even the appearance of a conflict, I have dismissed my claim in the lawsuit that I brought to address the events of January 6, 2021. And, I will refrain from sharing information that I acquire as Chair of the Select Committee that is not already available to the public or to members of Congress." said Congressman Thompson.
Now Jack is on it.
Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemy at August 07, 2023 01:50 PM (GshMh)
Posted by: Cocksucker - Aviators are Off at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (C0ck$)
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Alleged, Cocksucker. *Alleged* criminal. Ain't nothin' been proven.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 07, 2023 01:50 PM (t0OGg)
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I also feel like the police are a racist institution cooked up by the power centers of racist America to keep the black man down. To use the police is to perpetuate a racist system.
Send in the social workers!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 01:50 PM (LvTSG)
One upside to this police state lawfare is that it exposes judges and the courts as the same Regime whores as The Help in the Congress and Senate. For some weird reason conservatives still treat these judicial degenerates and thugs as beyond reproach when they are among the worst trash in the nomenklatura.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 07, 2023 01:50 PM (KSNKu)
Posted by: kallisto at August 07, 2023 01:51 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 07, 2023 01:46 PM (TZ75n)
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His only shot is if Trump is imprisoned and Doesn't Kill Himself, a Win-Win for his big money
Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 07, 2023 01:51 PM (bgr7s)
If you do the thing you're doing to me, then I'll do the same thing to you.
Texas99
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Depends on what your definition of 'If' is....
Posted by: Democrat lexicon at August 07, 2023 01:51 PM (b+gh8)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (DgaYN)
Remember when biden said he was here to "Heal" the Nation? LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 07, 2023 01:51 PM (EVR4i)
He must not only force the clown in a robe to issue a gag order, he must violate it and state why he is violating it--"they want to stop me from telling the truth."
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 07, 2023 01:51 PM (dUa/D)
He had to be stymied and blocked while he was in office and since he didn't just go nip off and kill himself as was proper, his destruction must continue.
The Dems could have the strongest candidate in history and it wouldn't change this one iota.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 07, 2023 01:43 PM (t0OGg)
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I think it's both. Yes, the vendetta against Trump is independent of however weak (or strong) the Dum candidate is. Trump must be destroyed for the reasons you mentioned.
But I think the Dums also see Trump as the only credible threat in 2024, and want him taken out of the race. Trump beat the steal in 2016. He showed it could be done. He failed in 2020, true. But the memory of that one victory against the steal still haunts them. Hillary was supposed to be president. They aren't taking any chances in 2024. They want Trump gone.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 07, 2023 01:51 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (/iWhV)
Ramaswamy wrote in his 2022 book that Trump questioning the 2020 election was an Attack on Democracy.
Posted by: ... at August 07, 2023 01:51 PM (CBajr)
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 01:43 PM (bk5GW)
The left/communist logic never goes that deep.
He's in the way and won't move. Kill him.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 07, 2023 01:51 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: It's me donna at August 07, 2023 01:43 PM (bs+z0)
Did you HAVE to bring that up?
Posted by: Michelle Fields at August 07, 2023 01:51 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 01:51 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (MoZTd)
Nope, not big enough for the amount of crazy going on.
Posted by: DJ at August 07, 2023 01:51 PM (uosPt)
One upside to this police state lawfare is that it exposes judges and the courts as the same Regime whores as The Help in the Congress and Senate. For some weird reason conservatives still treat these judicial degenerates and thugs as beyond reproach when they are among the worst trash in the nomenklatura.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 07, 2023 01:50 PM (KSNKu)
I don't. I've seen enough judicial activism and corruption to last a lifetime, and I ain't dead yet.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 01:51 PM (ynpvh)
And if that sends a warning to anyone else who might challenge the swamp, that is just topping on the Sunday
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM
We're willing to compromise, with him dying OUTSIDE of jail, but before the general election.
Posted by: GOPe at August 07, 2023 01:51 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: ... at August 07, 2023 01:52 PM (CBajr)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 07, 2023 01:52 PM (EVR4i)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 01:52 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Kennedy barely won in 1960 and his subsequent embarrassing Bay of Pigs and then the Missiles of October made him distrustful of the CIA and the military establishment. There is some evidence he was revisiting the decision to commit to Vietnam but shortly before Kennedy was murdered, Diem was assassinated. There is a recording more or less where Kennedy bemoans he was misled again by the Deep State shortly before he was killed. https://tinyurl.com/ynf6nxct
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 01:52 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 07, 2023 01:46 PM
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True. Ron should fire all the idiots that told him running in 2024 was a good idea.
I like Ron a lot, but ...
Ron should have made himself a Trump supporter, and gone out to the other 49 states building a team of Trump and DeSantis fans.
Position Ron as Trump's biggest supporter and the guy that could take over if Trump gets sidelined.
Oh well, too late now.
Posted by: rd at August 07, 2023 01:52 PM (yqnUp)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (/iWhV)
Ramaswamy wrote in his 2022 book that Trump questioning the 2020 election was an Attack on Democracy.
Posted by: ... at August 07, 2023 01:51 PM (CBajr)
Ergo, when Dems attacked the integrity of elections Repubes won, that is also attacking Democracy, right?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 01:53 PM (ynpvh)
No standing
Posted by: DB - at August 07, 2023 01:53 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (DgaYN)
I believe that Gerald Ford received a Kennedy Foundation "Profiles in Courage" award for that move.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 01:53 PM (/iWhV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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Not if Roberts can prevent that. It will depend on the other Trump justices, especially Kavanaugh who shows a fondness for kicking the can down the road.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 01:53 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (ynpvh)
Of course it is. I mean the last Kraken was awesome. I don't get how people believe this stuff.
Posted by: Only in PBurg at August 07, 2023 01:53 PM (sGCGQ)
Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, and the rest of the leftist late-nighters have been off the air since May.
Has anyone noticed?
I didn’t even know that left-wing bigots like Jimmy Fallon and Seth Meyers were airing reruns, which tells you just how little impact these woke echo chambers have nowadays.
Posted by: SMOD at August 07, 2023 01:53 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (MoZTd)
Nope, not big enough for the amount of crazy going on.
Posted by: DJ at August 07, 2023 01:51 PM (uosPt)
There comes a time when the inmates are outside and the rest are holed-up inside...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 01:54 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Texas99 at August 07, 2023 01:48 PM (VRg+C)
The thinking doesn't matter. It's just chum to give the foot soldiers something to regurgitate. He's threatening the prosecutor!
Doesn't matter if it's logical or deep the judge will use it to do what she wants anyway
Weirdly there are still Q and Q adjacent people saying that all this is according to the plan.
They are going to gag and jail Trump. And that will be two more Rubicons we just can't believe they crossed.
Posted by: blaster at August 07, 2023 01:54 PM (Jk9SN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 07, 2023 01:51 PM (EVR4i)
And that he would take responsibility for actions, not shift blame to others.
They all rank right up there with "the check is in the mail", etc.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 07, 2023 01:54 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 07, 2023 01:54 PM (0EOe9)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 07, 2023 01:46 PM
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True. Ron should fire all the idiots that told him running in 2024 was a good idea.
I like Ron a lot, but ...
Ron should have made himself a Trump supporter, and gone out to the other 49 states building a team of Trump and DeSantis fans.
Position Ron as Trump's biggest supporter and the guy that could take over if Trump gets sidelined.
Oh well, too late now.
Posted by: rd at August 07, 2023 01:52 PM (yqnUp)
This was always my case for the way DeSantis should have positioned himself. Him running for POTUS in 24 was splitting the GOP, not Trump.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 01:55 PM (/iWhV)
"We flooded central Virginia to save the political district in Fairfax"
Mr. Wang added that in order to protect Xiong’an, the new political hub planned by Chinese Communist Party (CCP) leader Xi Jinping, authorities ordered the creation of a new but less efficient flood storage area in Zhuozhou to reduce pressure on Xiong’an.
“That’s why the official said that the flood discharge will last for another month, and you should not go home for one month. It doesn’t mean that you can go home when the rain stops,” he said.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 07, 2023 01:55 PM (slgIg)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 07, 2023 01:55 PM (xTRSc)
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at August 07, 2023 01:55 PM (V6W16)
Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, and the rest of the leftist late-nighters have been off the air since May.
Has anyone noticed?
I didn’t even know that left-wing bigots like Jimmy Fallon and Seth Meyers were airing reruns, which tells you just how little impact these woke echo chambers have nowadays.
Posted by: SMOD at August 07, 2023 01:53 PM (RHGPo)
___________
Who?
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 07, 2023 01:55 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Braenyard at August 07, 2023 01:55 PM (O2rhH)
One upside to this police state lawfare is that it exposes judges and the courts as the same Regime whores as The Help in the Congress and Senate. For some weird reason conservatives still treat these judicial degenerates and thugs as beyond reproach when they are among the worst trash in the nomenklatura.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat
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Expecting the judiciary to be brave is based on the myth of Marbury and Brown v. Board of Education. In fact, when push comes to shove, they almost always chicken out when confronted with existential threats.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 01:56 PM (bk5GW)
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Oh my GOD!!!! an employee moved boxes around the Trump estate!!!!!! 30 years in Leavenworth!!!
(Meanwhile, Hunter Biden is still free to be the bagman in Joe Biden's bribery schemes, and sniff cocaine off of hookers' asses)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 07, 2023 01:56 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (/iWhV)
He needs a VP candidate who will 100% back him if there are signs of election fraud, like how Kari Lake has gone swinging against AZ fraud. I like Ramaswamy a lot and think he will be an amazing cabinet position. But I still don't know if he has the ability to step up if things get really rough.
I hope Kari runs for a different AZ seat, I think governor was just too much of an uphill battle since her dem opponent literally ran how the votes were counted.
Posted by: LizLem at August 07, 2023 01:56 PM (eZ4vg)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 07, 2023 01:56 PM (a3Q+t)
Who made lefties incredibly sad
But he refused to comply
So they started to cry
For help from their legal comrade
Posted by: All Hail Judge Grudge at August 07, 2023 01:56 PM (VsUo2)
And if that sends a warning to anyone else who might challenge the swamp
A Democratic Congresswoman has already suggested that Republican elected officials who publicly support Trump are committing criminal acts by doing so.
If Trump goes down, a lot more people are going to get prosecuted.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 07, 2023 01:56 PM (2tUFv)
>>Ramaswamy wrote in his 2022 book that Trump questioning the 2020 election was an Attack on Democracy.
Well, he's clearly changed his mind as he's now spoken several times about election irregularities in 2020.
So either he's come around based on closer examination or he's simply become opportunistic.
There are only a two people I trust at this time Trump and Rand Paul.
One they want to jail the other they keep trying to murder for some reason.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 01:56 PM (rc3Z7)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 01:56 PM (DgaYN)
One upside to this police state lawfare is that it exposes judges and the courts as the same Regime whores as The Help in the Congress and Senate. For some weird reason conservatives still treat these judicial degenerates and thugs as beyond reproach when they are among the worst trash in the nomenklatura.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat
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Expecting the judiciary to be brave is based on the myth of Marbury and Brown v. Board of Education. In fact, when push comes to shove, they almost always chicken out when confronted with existential threats.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 01:56 PM (bk5GW)
Okay, so you're talking about John Roberts, right?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 01:56 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (/iWhV)
They will not allow Trump to win. If they have to JFK him, they will. No one who threatens the system will be allowed the win the presidency.
Posted by: Only in PBurg at August 07, 2023 01:57 PM (sGCGQ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 07, 2023 01:57 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 07, 2023 01:57 PM (vOIi6)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
Yeah but which gubmint agency used assassination as a formal policy until Ford issues his executive order. Strong indications that the plumbers unit was also a CIA action against Nixon because Nixon never approved the operation nor did John Mitchell--campaign chair.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 01:57 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 07, 2023 01:57 PM (FVME7)
Sniffing...gonna do more sniffing....
Posted by: Joey Biden at August 07, 2023 01:58 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 01:56 PM (bk5GW)
The court is only brave when TPTB are backing them. Tick off the little people, sure.
Posted by: Only in PBurg at August 07, 2023 01:58 PM (sGCGQ)
Say what you want about Debs' ideology, but that tough old bird had some stones.
Posted by: troyriser at August 07, 2023 01:59 PM (7Cx1V)
Yeah, but that's only an unforgivable sin when Ron the Satinist says so. And Mike Pence. And anyone I hate. But not anyone I like.
Posted by: Trump's Calvinball Team at August 07, 2023 01:59 PM (ppBhU)
It's a hard square to circle for the Get Trump (BAMN) crowd.
Posted by: Simple Stevo at August 07, 2023 01:59 PM (Dgo06)
Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 07, 2023 01:59 PM (H+1uc)
But really, it's about trying to quiet someone who's seen stuff and has/had access to very damaging information about the dark underbelly in the capitol city.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 07, 2023 01:59 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 07, 2023 01:59 PM (FVME7)
In other countries it's generally even worse.
Posted by: PG at August 07, 2023 01:59 PM (84jHt)
Trump had to have known that Smith would pounce on that post.
—
Trump doesn’t think more than 30 seconds ahead. Doubt he knew or cared. He lives in the moment on Twitter/Truth/Whatever.
Posted by: Montec at August 07, 2023 01:59 PM (BqIHC)
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Pretty sure that was Yoda.
Posted by: nerd at August 07, 2023 02:00 PM (bNy/6)
Say what you want about Debs' ideology, but that tough old bird had some stones.
Posted by: troyriser
the ONLY qualifications for running for and being president are listed in the constitution. It does not say you have to be out of jail.
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2023 02:00 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:00 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 07, 2023 02:00 PM (IXZGh)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 01:49 PM (rc3Z7)
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And a few he didn't eventually marry. One I know he didn't bang ever? The insane bi+ch talking about a fitting room in a Manhattan department store.
Posted by: rd at August 07, 2023 02:00 PM (kiW7V)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:00 PM (DgaYN)
Probably still having moments of dementia hiding from river rabbits.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 02:00 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 07, 2023 02:01 PM (xTRSc)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:00 PM (DgaYN)
He posted earlier that he was running a marathon today.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 07, 2023 02:01 PM (IXZGh)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 01:52 PM
The WWE and Jimmy Choo know you don't succeed without heels.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 07, 2023 02:01 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Skip at August 07, 2023 02:01 PM (MOY79)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:01 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: LizLem at August 07, 2023 01:56 PM (eZ4vg)
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She's going to run for Sinema's seat, I believe.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 07, 2023 02:01 PM (DRSnL)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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it is more than Roberts as a problem. The court could have easily decided in Plessy not to allow de jure segregation but that would have been unpopular. Brown was popular in the sense that a majority of Americans wanted the Plessy dissent to have become law. You also see the retreat by Chief Justice Salmon Chase in ex parte McCardle, the switch in time that saved nine by Chief Justice Hughes and Owen Roberts, etc. etc.
Lawyers, by and large are not hero types but system stability types because otherwise when the rule of law is absent, being able to argue is not superior to the barrel of a gun.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:01 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 01:49 PM (rc3Z7)
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And a few he didn't eventually marry. One I know he didn't bang ever? The insane bi+ch talking about a fitting room in a Manhattan department store.
Posted by: rd at August 07, 2023 02:00 PM (kiW7V)
Which, amazingly, is the same story from a TV episode.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 02:01 PM (ynpvh)
Enjoy the pleasant summer of 2023 while you can.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 07, 2023 02:01 PM (2tUFv)
Is bedlam worse than a cataclysm?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 01:42 PM (rc3Z7)
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Yes, someone please rank the severity of terms.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 07, 2023 02:01 PM (scAkO)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (/iWhV)
Cthulhu/Pence'24:Why settle for the lesser of evils
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 07, 2023 02:02 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: Eromero at August 07, 2023 02:02 PM (vlMl3)
CIA didn't try to kill Trump when he won in 2016.
You seem to have forgotten that he loaded his cabinet with the same types as everyone else.
Why is it that China and Russia both want him to be president?
Shouldn't they want Biden if he is so "corrupt" ?
Posted by: Paul at August 07, 2023 02:02 PM (hSKIA)
Posted by: whig
The process is the punishment. If they do jail him, it's with the expectation that he'll be released and then re-arrested. They want him to win the nom because his conviction(s) will be used as the predicate to remove him from ballots.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 07, 2023 02:02 PM (IG4Id)
This is the double danger in what the left did installing Biden in '20 and then imprisoning domestic political opponents. It means every election becomes a life and death event where no one can relent.
Though I will say this is a lesson Trump should have known in '20. The moment he agreed to transition power to Biden...whatever Biden's people promised...he was also agreeing to allow himself to be arrested and likely imprisoned.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 07, 2023 02:02 PM (lc5cP)
Posted by: troyriser
In re Debs is another disgraceful Supreme Court decision.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:02 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 07, 2023 02:01 PM (DRSnL)
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"Sinema is my kind of Democrat, though. She always votes for every Democrat initiative without question while occasionally making noise that the Democrats may go to far."
-At least 15% of AZ GOP voters
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 02:02 PM (LvTSG)
Fixed.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 07, 2023 02:02 PM (8rEre)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 07, 2023 02:02 PM (xTRSc)
This is the power play people. They can do it and get away with it. Until it becomes something they can't get away with they will keep doing it.
Posted by: blaster at August 07, 2023 02:02 PM (Jk9SN)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (DgaYN)
Joey Buddafookoh has entered the chat.
Posted by: BifBewalski at August 07, 2023 02:02 PM (3CCua)
Posted by: Jimmah at August 07, 2023 02:03 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Mishdog at August 07, 2023 02:03 PM (K7pel)
https://tinyurl.com/2wajj8wm
link goes to LifeSite News
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 07, 2023 02:03 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: E. Jean Carroll at August 07, 2023 02:03 PM (lc5cP)
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Pretty sure that was Yoda.
Posted by: nerd at August 07, 2023 02:00 PM
"When you have to shoot, shoot; don't talk."
-- Tuco
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 07, 2023 02:03 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: db at August 07, 2023 02:03 PM (wu87C)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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it is more than Roberts as a problem. The court could have easily decided in Plessy not to allow de jure segregation but that would have been unpopular. Brown was popular in the sense that a majority of Americans wanted the Plessy dissent to have become law. You also see the retreat by Chief Justice Salmon Chase in ex parte McCardle, the switch in time that saved nine by Chief Justice Hughes and Owen Roberts, etc. etc.
Lawyers, by and large are not hero types but system stability types because otherwise when the rule of law is absent, being able to argue is not superior to the barrel of a gun.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:01 PM (bk5GW)
Stare decisis and so many bad SCOTUS decisions.
Wickard v. Filmore
Korematsu v US
Dred Scott v Sanford
US v. Miller
Roe v. Wade
and the list goes on, and on, and on
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 02:03 PM (ynpvh)
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Why do you keep insisting that Putin and China want Trump to be president?
Is it because Russia wants lower gas prices from an America that is energy dominant? Is it because China loves being blamed for covid?
Or are you just going blind from overuse of Ashley Biden's diary now that you know it's 100% true?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 02:04 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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That particular stunt doesn't work constitutionally and that would force Scotus to act. See Powell v. McCormick and US Term Limits v. Thornton.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:04 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: Muldoon at August 07, 2023 02:04 PM (l4B/J)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 01:47 PM (DgaYN)
I'm sorry; I don't know what this means. I thought Amy Bishop was in jail with a lifetime sentence for killing three people at a faculty meeting. Was she killed? They might want to put Trump in jail permanently, but Amy Bishop deserves to be in jail or have had the death penalty..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 07, 2023 02:04 PM (Keyt1)
I don't know a single Republican that at any point in time (let alone 2022) thought the election was legitimate. Not one.
Posted by: ... at August 07, 2023 02:04 PM (CBajr)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 07, 2023 02:04 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 07, 2023 02:04 PM (iFTx/)
The GOPe and the swamp (redundant) will thwart his every move.
Posted by: Archer at August 07, 2023 02:04 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:04 PM (DgaYN)
—John McClain
Posted by: db at August 07, 2023 02:05 PM (wu87C)
I think she meant become Amy Bishop, not treat him like Amy Bishop. 😂😂😂
Posted by: ... at August 07, 2023 02:05 PM (CBajr)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 07, 2023 02:05 PM (0612U)
Posted by: Paul at August 07, 2023 02:02 PM (hSKIA)
Seems like Paul is off his meds (and took his mouth off his mom's cock) again.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 02:05 PM (ynpvh)
I'm so sad for those people; there are pics where the water in their valley is up to the highway signs. It's exactly why communism fails. "We will protect you, until you are inconvenient!" But it sounds like the people are trying to fight back, they got a bit of a spine after all the covid lockdown protests.
And yes, the DC swamp is not trying to protect us from this kind of sweeping dictatorial power, they are JEALOUS of it.
Posted by: LizLem at August 07, 2023 02:05 PM (eZ4vg)
Posted by: It's me donna at August 07, 2023 02:05 PM (bs+z0)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 07, 2023 02:05 PM (0612U)
And on JJ's birthday, no less.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 07, 2023 02:05 PM (KbCG3)
What I mean vis a vis Trump, the Democrats have become unhinged over Trump. It burns them that they are the Wylie Coyote to his Road Runner.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:05 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: eleven at August 07, 2023 02:05 PM (iziT8)
Wickard v. Filmore
Korematsu v US
Dred Scott v Sanford
US v. Miller
Roe v. Wade
and the list goes on, and on, and on
Posted by: jim
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No argument from me. A few of the worst decisions were eventually overturned like Plessy was by Brown and Roe v. Wade was as well and it took three constitutional amendments to overturn Dred Scott's horrific judicial decision.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:05 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: whig
Weasel, John Dean.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 07, 2023 02:06 PM (O2rhH)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 07, 2023 02:06 PM (Keyt1)
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What would be a good metaphor for that? Oooooh I know drain the swamp. He’ll totally do it too.
Posted by: Montec at August 07, 2023 02:06 PM (BqIHC)
Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at August 07, 2023 02:06 PM (IXZGh)
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 01:56 PM (bk5GW)
Exactly. My point is that many otherwise conservative or at least informed people do not realize how utterly corrupt and compromised the court system is and what despicable state functionaries' judges are. Draining all respect from the judiciary should be a top priority although it seems to be doing a good job on its own. In a sense, I don't think the Left's demonization of conservative justices does not have benefits however unintended. Demonize theirs right back, and in due time everyone will hate the judicial system enough to neuter it. Outside of the secret political police, the corrupt judiciary is a clear and present danger to the American people.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 07, 2023 02:06 PM (KSNKu)
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 07, 2023 02:06 PM (krqg6)
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He took the bait. A smarter more disciplined man would have bided his time, built his base and moved from victory to victory. But hey, the undisciplined thing worked for Trump. Or did it.
Posted by: you got to know when hold 'em, know when to fold 'em at August 07, 2023 02:06 PM (bNy/6)
Posted by: Paul at August 07, 2023 02:06 PM (hSKIA)
Well, if Trump has a plan to beat The Steal '24 I would hope he also has a plan to deal with this. And honestly dealing with the uniparty isn't a matter of complexity. It does come down to finding the right people and the will to fire everyone that gets in their way.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 07, 2023 02:06 PM (lc5cP)
Posted by: ... at August 07, 2023 02:05 PM (CBajr)
That's DOCTOR Amy Bishop!
Posted by: DOCTOR Amy Bishop at August 07, 2023 02:07 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: whig
So why did Tricky Dick play along?
Posted by: SFGoth at August 07, 2023 02:07 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 07, 2023 02:07 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 02:03 PM (ynpvh)
Stare decisis is just latin for "'til we come up with a better idea."
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 07, 2023 02:07 PM (z+89e)
Posted by: you got to know when hold 'em, know when to fold 'em at August 07, 2023 02:06 PM (bNy/6)
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"Listen, the iron is only ever hot once. Run now, and pay me 30% of every TV ad, or you'll never get close to the presidency."
-GOP consultant who has only ever consulted on lost races
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 02:07 PM (LvTSG)
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Why do you trust the man?
Is it because Ashley Biden paints such a sympathetic portrait of his figure in the shower?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 02:08 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 07, 2023 02:05 PM (0612U)
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"You mean, like, the guy from Stalag 17?"
Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 07, 2023 02:08 PM (Kfv92)
>>I don't know a single Republican that at any point in time (let alone 2022) thought the election was legitimate. Not one.
I don't think Ramaswamey was a Republican, he was just a businessman who was, if not liberal, was left of center, he saw ESG and the wokeness as neutral/good but as the left kept ratcheting, he became more and more alarmed at what was going on.
Essentially he was a Democrat who got mugged by reality.
We shall see how things shake out, but he may end up being Trumps VP.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 02:08 PM (rc3Z7)
Shouldn't they want Biden if he is so "corrupt" ?
THEY DO want Biden you dumb f*ck.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 07, 2023 02:08 PM (IXZGh)
Posted by: eleven at August 07, 2023 02:08 PM (iziT8)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 07, 2023 02:05 PM (0612U)
The man who holds the keys to the weather/time machine can send a tornado after you when you were a kid.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 07, 2023 02:08 PM (zZu0s)
The GOPe and the swamp (redundant) will thwart his every move.
Posted by: Archer
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You are supposing that Trump does not cross the Rubicon--DeGaulle did so in recent history and ended the 4th Republic of France.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (Q4IgG)
Or simply sink your battleship
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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You mis-heard.
He said, "heel the nation."
He and his criminal officers intend to bring us to heel.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (dUa/D)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (IF2IV)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (slgIg)
the Democrats have become unhinged over Trump. It burns them that they are the Wylie Coyote to his Road Runner.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Point of information: That's Wile E. Coyote. Looney Tunes had depths of cleverness.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (lCaJd)
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (bk5GW)
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Trump does not strike me as the sort of man.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 07, 2023 02:08 PM (IXZGh)
This is why it's called "shitposting", my dear aquatic friend.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (/EuRN)
We shall see how things shake out, but he may end up being Trumps VP.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 02:08 PM (rc3Z7)
I dunno. I get Paul Ryan vibes. Great warming up in the bullpen, goes the other way when he laces his chiffon on.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (zZu0s)
You DICK!!!!
Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at August 07, 2023 02:06 PM (IXZGh)
Yeah, he certainly is. I mean, that ignores the facts about Hillary's dealings with Roscom, The Bidens' dealings with China, Russia, Ukraine, and in other countries. It ignores how Trump's admin was emasculated even before it started (Lies about Gen Flynn). It takes a special kind of retarded to post something like that.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Montec at August 07, 2023 01:59 PM (BqIHC)
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Yea, Trump is a new age “mindfulness” guru. When you cease both worrying about the past and being anxious for the future you exist and become totally aware of the moment.
Trump has transcended human existence and now is in a state of samadhi. He now simultaneously both the most powerful and weakest being on the planet.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (scAkO)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (slgIg)
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Just like 2022!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 02:10 PM (LvTSG)
"Listen, the iron is only ever hot once. Run now, and pay me 30% of every TV ad, or you'll never get close to the presidency."
-GOP consultant who has only ever consulted on lost races
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 02:07 PM (LvTSG)
That's a rip off! I only pocket 15%. Call me!
Posted by: Mrs. Bernie Sanders at August 07, 2023 02:10 PM (z+89e)
Clusterf*cks are distinct from the complications, crises, and catastrophes that mar our personal and professional existences. In "The F-Word", former Oxford English Dictionary editor Jesse Sheidlower defines a clusterfUck as "a bungled or confused undertaking or situation."
Stanford business professor Bob Sutton goes describes clusterf*cks as "those debacles and disasters caused by a deadly brew of illusion, impatience, and incompetence that afflicts too many decision-makers, especially those in powerful, confident, and prestigious groups."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 07, 2023 02:10 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (LvTSG)
Neither was DeGaulle, until he was.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 07, 2023 02:10 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: Montec at August 07, 2023 01:59 PM (BqIHC)
So he just lucked into beating the Bush, Clinton, media and intelligence service machines to become president, against all odds and the surefire predictions of all the people who have been couch analyzing him since 2015? Come on now.
Posted by: ... at August 07, 2023 02:10 PM (CBajr)
>>Or did it.
Yeah, it did.
No one ever expects the masterminds to attempt to destroy the entire f***ing Capitalist system to get rid of one man but it happened.
True story.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 02:10 PM (rc3Z7)
Remember when biden said he was here to "Heal" the Nation? LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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You mis-heard.
He said, "heel the nation."
He and his criminal officers intend to bring us to heel.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voic
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YOU mis-heard. He said he would "feel the nation." He's got a lot more little girls to go.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 07, 2023 02:10 PM (lCaJd)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 07, 2023 01:39 PM (0FoWg)
This.
Posted by: kathysaysso at August 07, 2023 01:40 PM (yACxx)
And then he'll come back from a massive head wound and I'll be completely certain that the end is here.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 07, 2023 02:10 PM (zjgNU)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:11 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 07, 2023 02:11 PM (scAkO)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 02:03 PM (ynpvh)
Stare decisis is just latin for "'til we come up with a better idea."
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 07, 2023 02:07 PM (z+89e)
means to stand by things decided, like how Obama is the catcher every night to Michelle.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 02:11 PM (ynpvh)
This is why it's called "shitposting", my dear aquatic friend.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (/EuRN)
I like that. Shitposter Paul. Or ShitPauling.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 07, 2023 02:11 PM (IXZGh)
Posted by: ShainS
"6:00 in Berlin. They were having lunch in Cleveland." One of the greatest movie scenes ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruPysGfsRrY
Posted by: SFGoth at August 07, 2023 02:11 PM (KAi1n)
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The Garland Archipelago hardest hit.
Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 07, 2023 02:11 PM (Kfv92)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 07, 2023 02:11 PM (scAkO)
Right now he is... Not sure he has time to turn it around
Posted by: It's me donna at August 07, 2023 02:11 PM (bs+z0)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (slgIg)
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Just like 2022!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 02:10 PM (LvTSG)
-/
Some might say 2024 will be the most important election in our lifetime. 😀
Posted by: Montec at August 07, 2023 02:11 PM (BqIHC)
>>I dunno. I get Paul Ryan vibes. Great warming up in the bullpen, goes the other way when he laces his chiffon on.
I mean it's possible.
As I said, I only trust Trump and Rand Paul.
YMMV.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 02:11 PM (rc3Z7)
Enjoy the pleasant summer of 2023 while you can.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 07, 2023 02:01 PM (2tUFv)
It doesn't terrify me. It angers me. But I do agree that 2024 will be the last defining predictor of where this country is headed.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 07, 2023 02:11 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (ynpvh)
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"Special Kind of Retarded" sounds like an 80s TV show starring Tony Danza.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at August 07, 2023 02:12 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: Montec at August 07, 2023 02:11 PM (BqIHC)
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More important than 2020?!
Say it isn't so!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 02:12 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Rev. Paul Sharpton at August 07, 2023 02:12 PM (0612U)
Posted by: Jack Smith at August 07, 2023 02:12 PM (/HDaX)
True story.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 02:10 PM (rc3Z7)
Sun Yat Sen?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 07, 2023 02:12 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: Valiant at August 07, 2023 02:12 PM (R+lp9)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 02:08 PM (rc3Z7)
Just in time to run for the presidency? Call me a healthy skeptic on that score.
And didn't he just endorse TPP? Not the kind of Republican we need, just the kind we always seem to get.
Posted by: ... at August 07, 2023 02:12 PM (CBajr)
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:05 PM (bk5GW
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And 650,000 dead Americans.
Posted by: rd at August 07, 2023 02:12 PM (hedfr)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:11 PM (DgaYN)
Let's hope Trump does not get reincarnated over and over again to serve as right hand man to a worm emperor biden and then have to engage in a bizarre sex ritual with a bunch of women dressed up from the Handmaid's tale.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 07, 2023 02:12 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Thomas Bender
He's a big open borders fan, so same as any GOPe that trots out the populist message during the campaign and then governs as a greasy shit-bird in the swamp.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 07, 2023 02:12 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:13 PM (DgaYN)
This is about me isn't it?
Posted by: Alyssa Milano adjusting her crochet mask at August 07, 2023 02:13 PM (lc5cP)
The trial's been going on for several days, but today the judge cleared the courtroom of all spectators except press, because Antifa has been packing the courtroom to intimidate the witnesses and the jury.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 07, 2023 02:13 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 07, 2023 02:13 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Brandon at August 07, 2023 02:13 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Montec at August 07, 2023 02:11 PM (BqIHC)
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More important than 2020?!
Say it isn't so!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023
Too early to tell but betting odds are saying 2026
Will be even more important than both 2024 and 2020.
Posted by: Montec at August 07, 2023 02:13 PM (BqIHC)
Posted by: mpfs at August 07, 2023 02:14 PM (jFvbr)
Lawyers, by and large are not hero types but system stability types because otherwise when the rule of law is absent, being able to argue is not superior to the barrel of a gun.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:01 PM (bk5GW)
It's far worse than that. Most lawyers are huge statists - they believe the right law can solve any problem and "change the world". Most lawyers (all lawyers on the left) don't really like the Constitution much. I've heard attorneys I know talk about the First Amendment like it's a curse. Forget about the 2nd Amendment.
And, these same people are fine with SCOTUS making up laws like Roe v. Wade b/c in a leftist attorneys mind, if a "really smart" lawyer comes up with something, it must be right.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 07, 2023 02:14 PM (ky+MF)
Does he get a red nappy and a Webley?
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:14 PM (DgaYN)
Meatball is running to stay out of jail. Florida will be blue by 28.
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 07, 2023 02:14 PM (Eeb9P)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 07, 2023 02:14 PM (xTRSc)
Posted by: Skip at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (MOY79)
Let's hope Trump does not get reincarnated over and over again to serve as right hand man to a worm emperor biden and then have to engage in a bizarre sex ritual with a bunch of women dressed up from the Handmaid's tale.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 07, 2023 02:12 PM (zZu0s)
Rule 34.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (IXZGh)
He felt it was the worst thing he had ever done from a moral stand point.
Posted by: pawn at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (wsHtO)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 07, 2023 02:13 PM (zZu0s)
Haven't read any of the newer ones since about 2018 or so. Which ones?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: It's me donna at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (bs+z0)
Posted by: SFGoth
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Nixon wanted reelection in order to carry out his foreign policy plans post Vietnam and the Watergate break-in complicated measures. Nixon just assumed he could make it go away like LBJ did in bugging Goldwater illegally among other illegal acts done by FDR, JFK, and LBJ.
His little known Watergate grand jury testimony during his post presidency is a fascinating insight into politics and decisionmaking in that era. Nixon was testifying before the grand jury as they were weighing charges against other Nixon administration figures and Nixon was protected due to his pardon to speak freely and he did.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 07, 2023 02:14 PM (xTRSc)
Ohio
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (ky+MF)
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 07, 2023 02:14 PM (Eeb9P)
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This has to be parody, right?
FL went from barely electing DeSantis to electing him by 19 while the FL legislature went supermajority Republican, all while waging the culture war.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:14 PM (DgaYN)
Trump speaking with a Scottish accent?
Might as well make him Egyptian.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (zZu0s)
Accuse Trump going all Ike on your Tina ass. Get his guns taken aware.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (Qdscl)
>>He's a big open borders fan, so same as any GOPe that trots out the populist message during the campaign and then governs as a greasy shit-bird in the swamp.
He has also advocated for the TPP.
Look, we're in a tough spot, I have no idea who is on the level or who is Decepticon.
All we are doing is biding time, the shit is going to hit the fan fairly soon.
How soon is soon?
Again I have no idea.
All I will say is to gather as many palm sized smooth stones as you can.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (rc3Z7)
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Now note very well that the thing the howling monkeys are screeching about from the FL judge?
That she improperly disclosed that there is still a DC grand jury investigating J6. Why are they still investigating? Who are they still investigating?
The theory of prosecuting Trump--conspiracy to commit fraud on the United States for saying 2020 was stolen-- has no endpoint.
Anyone and everyone can be brought in as a co-conspirator at ant time under that theory.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 07, 2023 02:16 PM (dUa/D)
Posted by: pawn
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Eh, he helped cover up on the assassination of JFK so he has that going for him as well. He was a member of the Warren Commission.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:16 PM (bk5GW)
The best thing about Ramaswamy is he knows how to pitch on camera to libs the appeal of conservative ideas, and make them make sense to people who are usually driven by emotion.
For example, he never uses the euphemism "Affirmative Action", he calls it "race based quotas". He doesn't concede the moral high ground to the left for their amoral policies or theories. All of the GOP should learn this trick but don't.
And the left can't use the race card against him, so the lazy debators who have no other tools in their debate toolkit (aka Don Lemon, chick on the Breakfast Club) just end up floundering.
Posted by: LizLem at August 07, 2023 02:16 PM (eZ4vg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruPysGfsRrY
Posted by: SFGoth at August 07, 2023 02:11 PM (KAi1n)
You’re right. The whole movie was IMO great, I don’t know how many times I watched it.
Posted by: Rufus T Firefly at August 07, 2023 02:16 PM (taapK)
Posted by: SFGoth
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Nixon wanted reelection in order to carry out his foreign policy plans post Vietnam and the Watergate break-in complicated measures. Nixon just assumed he could make it go away like LBJ did in bugging Goldwater illegally among other illegal acts done by FDR, JFK, and LBJ.
His little known Watergate grand jury testimony during his post presidency is a fascinating insight into politics and decisionmaking in that era. Nixon was testifying before the grand jury as they were weighing charges against other Nixon administration figures and Nixon was protected due to his pardon to speak freely and he did.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (bk5GW)
Wow, whig. Where can I find that?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 02:16 PM (/iWhV)
William Friedkin is dead.
RIP
He had one of the greatest 3 picture runs in all of moviedom with:
French Connection
The Exorcist
Sorcerer
Tough to beat that run.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 07, 2023 02:16 PM (QzZeQ)
Posted by: Montec at August 07, 2023 02:16 PM (BqIHC)
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 07, 2023 02:14 PM (ky+MF)
Just look what the ACLU stands for. That answers lots of questions.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 02:17 PM (ynpvh)
You got to get over this enormous supersentient worm-man-demigod phobia.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 07, 2023 02:17 PM (ppBhU)
You got to get over this enormous supersentient worm-man-demigod phobia.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 07, 2023 02:17 PM (ppBhU)
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I did, and all I got was a political economy lecture.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 02:17 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: anachronda at August 07, 2023 02:17 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (ynpvh)
Oh, this was the second or third book after God Emperor. Even as a horny teen I read the one with the sex ritual involving the reincarnated Duncan Idaho (who had been genetically engineered to be a Kwisatch Hadarach) and was like 'WTF is this shit?' It was... graphic.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 07, 2023 02:17 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:17 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: Jamaica NYC
Hate to tell you but there may not be a UNITED states in 2028. Ask Gorby how well he predicted the future in 1988.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:18 PM (bk5GW)
He felt it was the worst thing he had ever done from a moral stand point.
Posted by: pawn at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (wsHtO)
Moreso than moving the shoulder wound location in the JFK autopsy drawings to fortify the single bullet theory and discredit the multiple shooter question? For that action he should get a VIP room in hell.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 07, 2023 02:18 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Emmie at August 07, 2023 02:18 PM (KhmNK)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at August 07, 2023 02:18 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: whig
Would that be a bad thing?
Posted by: Montec at August 07, 2023 02:18 PM (BqIHC)
Posted by: President Don Trump at August 07, 2023 02:18 PM (RilAR)
>>The best thing about Ramaswamy is he knows how to pitch on camera to libs the appeal of conservative ideas, and make them make sense to people who are usually driven by emotion.
I have a soft spot for businessmen, I was a Herman Cain fan, I wanted me some of his 9-9-9 medicine.
Sadly, the pieces of sh*t in the GOPe dirty tricked him out of the race.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 02:18 PM (rc3Z7)
Republican Presidential candidates are usually non-lawyers.
Democratic Presidential candidates are almost invariably lawyers.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 07, 2023 02:19 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: pawn at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (wsHtO)
Shows how far leftist thinking infiltrated republicans - even back then. What Nixon did was hardly terrible. Clinton, Obama, and now Biden have done far, far worse.
People think of "watergate" as some terrible crime. It was a silly prank at worst. The left has managed to indoctrinate people to think it was a terrible crime - the same way the left convinces everyone that the german party in control during WWII was "conservative" or "right wing" when they were avowed socialists.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 07, 2023 02:19 PM (ky+MF)
Posted by: Archer at August 07, 2023 02:19 PM (gmo/4)
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I think COVID and the coup proved they can do any damn thing they please. I think they could put a bullet in the guy, absurdly blame some patsy, and dare anyone to say "boo" about it. And nobody would.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 07, 2023 02:19 PM (Eu88q)
That went weird real quick.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:19 PM (DgaYN)
SpongeBob SquarePants is about the Seven Deadly Sins. SpongeBob is lust. Patrick is sloth. Mr. Crabbs is greed. Plankton is envy. Squidward is wrath. Sandy is pride. Gary is gluttony.
Flintones /Jetsons exist in the same universe contemporaneously. The Jetsons are the Eloi living in cloud cities above the fray. The Flintstones are Morlocks scrounging for a living in the quarries.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 07, 2023 02:19 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: pawn at August 07, 2023 02:19 PM (wsHtO)
Posted by: Darrell Harris
https://tinyurl.com/j357tb65
Link goes to National Archives website.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:20 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 07, 2023 02:20 PM (Eeb9P)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 07, 2023 02:20 PM (xSSfo)
Posted by: naturalfake at August 07, 2023 02:16 PM (QzZeQ)
——-
John McTiernan
Predator
Die Hard
The Hunt For Red October
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 07, 2023 02:20 PM (scAkO)
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 07, 2023 02:14 PM (Eeb9P)
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This has to be parody, right?
FL went from barely electing DeSantis to electing him by 19 while the FL legislature went supermajority Republican, all while waging the culture war.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (LvTSG)
Not necessarily. While DeSantis has done a stellar job in FL, there is no heir apparent there that I'm aware of; he hasn't cultivated one. Because of that, a nightmare scenario would be the one that NY had with Pataki - a long-time R governor who built no infrastructure to support a successor. After him, NY quickly reverted to the mean, and now they have Hochul.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 02:20 PM (/iWhV)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:17 PM (DgaYN)
Wheel of Time has never been made into a show. It is a good thing too. Jordan was undoubtedly conservative and they would probably turn it into 100% hand made shit.
Duty. Responsibility. Honor. Busty, fiery Redheads.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 07, 2023 02:20 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Jak Sucio at August 07, 2023 02:21 PM (4iaLe)
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I think COVID and the coup proved they can do any damn thing they please. I think they could put a bullet in the guy, absurdly blame some patsy, and dare anyone to say "boo" about it. And nobody would.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 07, 2023 02:19 PM (Eu88q)
More direct response to this is, who is the heir apparent to Trump? Looked like DeSantis but that isn't exactly taking hold.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 07, 2023 02:21 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 02:20 PM (/iWhV)
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It's the supermajority of Republicans in the legislature that makes the idea that within the next 5 years FL is going to suddenly be blue ridiculous.
DeSantis could vanish without a trace, and some nobody will get elected to sign the bills that the FL legislature passes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 02:21 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:21 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 07, 2023 02:22 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: Jamaica NYC
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World wide droning will become a thing in the near future is my guess.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:22 PM (bk5GW)
How can we take you seriously when you don't even know his name is Mr. Krabs? I can't even right now.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 07, 2023 02:22 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 07, 2023 02:19 PM (2tUFv)
Yes, but look at the overall makeup of the GOP in the House and Senate. You'll find a lot of law school graduates.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 07, 2023 02:22 PM (ky+MF)
Posted by: Skip
Oh GREAT !
Posted by: JT at August 07, 2023 02:22 PM (T4tVD)
Wheel of Time has never been made into a show. It is a good thing too. Jordan was undoubtedly conservative and they would probably turn it into 100% hand made shit.
Duty. Responsibility. Honor. Busty, fiery Redheads.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
wheel of time is currently in S2 on prime
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2023 02:22 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: Montec at August 07, 2023 02:23 PM (BqIHC)
That went weird real quick.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:19 PM (DgaYN)
Who then immedietely cucked him. Made me uncomfortable even then. Should have stopped reading there. What was that, book 2?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 07, 2023 02:23 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Burt Gummer at August 07, 2023 02:23 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 07, 2023 02:23 PM (Eeb9P)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 07, 2023 02:23 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
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If things happen as I expect, you will get a warlord. Cromwell was not exactly a household name nor was Pinochet, Franco, nor Napoleon in the politics of their time.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:23 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: MJ at August 07, 2023 02:23 PM (zwDuR)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 07, 2023 02:22 PM (ppBhU
The hell is a crab gonna have a whale for a daughter man come on.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 07, 2023 02:23 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2023 02:22 PM (CIS44)
THAT is not Wheel of Time.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 07, 2023 02:24 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 07, 2023 02:23 PM (/EuRN)
Adopted
Posted by: It's me donna at August 07, 2023 02:24 PM (bs+z0)
Posted by: Skip at August 07, 2023 02:24 PM (MOY79)
He felt it was the worst thing he had ever done from a moral stand point.
Posted by: pawn at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (wsHtO)
Backing abortion on demand might have been a mistake.
Also, I AM IN AGONY IN THIS FIRE.
Posted by: Gerald R. Ford at August 07, 2023 02:25 PM (aD39U)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 07, 2023 02:09 PM (slgIg)
“A conservative is someone who stands athwart history, yelling Stop, at a time when no one is inclined to do so, or to have much patience with those who so urge it.”
Posted by: Willam F Buckley, RIP at August 07, 2023 02:25 PM (kuSTV)
Posted by: Montec
No, Florida killed voter fraud as did Ohio by cleaning up their voter rolls and eliminating fraudsters like that criminal election supervisor in Dade County.
Eliminate fraud and the blue wave becomes about 40-43 percent of the electorate.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:25 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 02:20 PM (/iWhV)
In any other state Pataki would have been a liberal democrat. He only won election b/c the first Cuomo was running for a, I believe, 5th term and people were sick of him. Pataki got reelected by bribing the big state employee unions and giving away the store to them in exchange for them to basically sit out the election (they would obviously never endorse or campaign for a republican).
Because Pataki was really a democrat - it would have been pretty hard for him to do anything to strengthen the GOP in NY.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 07, 2023 02:25 PM (ky+MF)
Posted by: Burt Gummer at August 07, 2023 02:23 PM (4I/2K)
Let's do this!
Posted by: Reba McEntire, speaking of fiery redheads at August 07, 2023 02:25 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Montec at August 07, 2023 02:25 PM (BqIHC)
>>Anyone else think Trump isn't going to make it?
On a long enough timeline, we're all dead.
If they were going to whack him they would have whacked him.
No, they want him in an orange jump suit and to parade him before the cameras, they want to...
Hurt him, and continue hurting him and pricking at him and stabbing at him till the end of days.
They will never give him up.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 02:26 PM (rc3Z7)
Also an indication? Common sense.
Posted by: bskb at August 07, 2023 02:26 PM (8RztZ)
Posted by: Montec
As Thomas Bender noted above, he was for the TPP. But not the GOP version, Obama's version of TPP which was de facto open borders.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 07, 2023 02:26 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 07, 2023 02:26 PM (xTRSc)
Posted by: naturalfake at August 07, 2023 02:16 PM (QzZeQ)
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John McTiernan
Predator
Die Hard
The Hunt For Red October
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 07, 2023 02:20 PM (scAkO)
I'll give you- Predator and Die Hard for sure, but-
The Hunt for Red October....meh.
YMMV.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 07, 2023 02:27 PM (QzZeQ)
What is this bullshit? This is standard fare in banana republics.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at August 07, 2023 02:27 PM (Bd6X8)
And then there is the Lady Jessica.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:27 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
the great gazoo was weirder
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2023 02:27 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (IXZGh)
I swear you guys could find the dark side of a nude Kate Upton photoshoot.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (zZu0s)
I swear you guys could find the dark side of a nude Kate Upton photoshoot.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (eOEVl)
Too old. Wouldn't sniff.
Posted by: Joey Biden at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (JvZF+)
Posted by: Willam F Buckley
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That is why conservatives never conserve anything. Buckley was an effete idiot that could not even conserve conservatism in his own damn magazine or inculcate it in his son.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: Archimedes
thats like TJM's bat signal.
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 07, 2023 02:15 PM (LvTSG)
Not necessarily. While DeSantis has done a stellar job in FL, there is no heir apparent there that I'm aware of; he hasn't cultivated one. Because of that, a nightmare scenario would be the one that NY had with Pataki - a long-time R governor who built no infrastructure to support a successor. After him, NY quickly reverted to the mean, and now they have Hochul.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 02:20 PM (/iWhV)
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Things can change awful fast in politics, especially given that the Dumocraps never ever give up no matter what the odds. They have been trying to turn TX red for decades. They may well succeed one day. Rudy Giuliani turned shithole NYC into an urban paradise. The rich gnome, for all his faults, continued Rudy's law-and-order legacy. Guess what NYC then did? Elect a far-left lunatic shiteater who destroyed all that within a year.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (iFTx/)
And then there is the Lady Jessica.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:27 PM (DgaYN)
Plus, I always liked Richard Jordan- even though he was a side character or in odd stuff like Raise the Titanic (which also had an awesome soundtrack.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 07, 2023 02:29 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 07, 2023 02:29 PM (krqg6)
I swear you guys could find the dark side of a nude Kate Upton photoshoot.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (eOEVl)
One of her ears is a millimeter off center. Would
Not bang.
Posted by: Montec at August 07, 2023 02:29 PM (BqIHC)
She has a weird torso, man.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 07, 2023 02:29 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 07, 2023 02:29 PM (k1Qly)
>>I swear you guys could find the dark side of a nude Kate Upton photoshoot.
Kate Upton has a square and wide mid section.
Also, she has very wide shoulders.
And don't even get me started on her calves or should I say, lack of calves.
Home Girl looks like she skipped leg day every day.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 02:30 PM (rc3Z7)
Sadly, the pieces of sh*t in the GOPe dirty tricked him out of the race. Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 07, 2023 02:18 PM (rc3Z7)
Me too. I am so done with career politicians and lawyers running things, so I lean to the business men and women instead. But the swamp sometimes gets their claws in those candidates too, sigh.
A man of Herman Cain's temperment, judgment, character, and intelligence would make for an amazing president, plus do a lot for racial healing post Obama. So of course the GOP torched him.
Posted by: LizLem at August 07, 2023 02:30 PM (kuSTV)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 07, 2023 02:30 PM (YohY1)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 07, 2023 02:30 PM (FVME7)
I swear you guys could find the dark side of a nude Kate Upton photoshoot.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Despair and FUD trolls.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:30 PM (bk5GW)
Ol' Jack's afraid that his stooges..er..witnesses will have to tell the truth.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 07, 2023 02:30 PM (LOVUx)
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It's just we've never seen norms a president that could restore the norms to this degree!
Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2023 02:30 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Not really paying attention at August 07, 2023 02:30 PM (NBVIP)
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:18 PM (bk5GW)
Truth. As I said, this election will decide many things about the state of this nation. The idea of a "union" of states may quickly start to wane.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 07, 2023 02:30 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 07, 2023 02:29 PM (krqg6)
they know their numbers and how to manipulate them.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 02:30 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Montec
As Thomas Bender noted above, he was for the TPP. But not the GOP version, Obama's version of TPP which was de facto open borders.
Assuming I accept your characterization, since it's Vivek, I'd at least listen to his arguments, instead of the usual "he disagrees with me about something, so he's the devil, and must be burned!".
Posted by: Archimedes at August 07, 2023 02:30 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 07, 2023 02:29 PM (krqg6)
Awesome!
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 07, 2023 02:30 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 07, 2023 02:30 PM (FVME7)
That right there just might get me through my work day.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 07, 2023 02:31 PM (LOVUx)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 07, 2023 02:30 PM (FVME7)
I'm on board with this.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 07, 2023 02:31 PM (IXZGh)
DeSantis wins. Pardons Trump. Dismantles fbi and doj and pentagon. Goes after fauci and biden and Jack Smith and garland.
Gets rid of mail in voting.
I don't think the dems will ever win again.
This isn't going the way they want. Their only hope is to turn this country into China or the USSR. they will cheat again, be ready to stop it cold.
Posted by: Joe kidtoucher at August 07, 2023 02:31 PM (W+TLY)
Posted by: Not really paying attention at August 07, 2023 02:30 PM (NBVIP)
*cough*
Posted by: The Fappening at August 07, 2023 02:31 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:31 PM (DgaYN)
Outlaw Josie Wales
Pale Rider
Unforgiven
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (zZu0s)
All great movies but not a run. Not all in a row. 1-2-3.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 07, 2023 02:31 PM (QzZeQ)
Posted by: Montec
As Thomas Bender noted above, he was for the TPP. But not the GOP version, Obama's version of TPP which was de facto open borders.
Assuming I accept your characterization, since it's Vivek, I'd at least listen to his arguments, instead of the usual "he disagrees with me about something, so he's the devil, and must be burned!".
Posted by: Archimedes at August 07, 2023 02:30 PM (eOEVl)
I put Rand Paul in that category as well. If I disagree with him on a position, I'll reassess my position to see if he's actually right.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 02:32 PM (/iWhV)
Posted by: Dr. Claw
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Lincoln once argued when someone pointed out to him that his actions were outside of the Constitution during the Civil War. Lincoln replied, basically, that if the other side is violating the whole point of the document (to create a more Perfect Union) then he should be given latitude to prevent the opposition from hiding behind constitutional guarantees. In essence, Lincoln was a tyrant but judged that preferable than letting the South win.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:32 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:32 PM (DgaYN)
Outlaw Josie Wales
Pale Rider
Unforgiven
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (zZu0s)
All great movies but not a run. Not all in a row. 1-2-3.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 07, 2023 02:31 PM (QzZeQ)
I do like his acting in Grand Torino. One of the few old men that can say "Get Off My Lawn!" with such gravitas.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 02:32 PM (ynpvh)
She has a weird torso, man.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 07, 2023 02:29 PM (ppBhU)
If she were nude, not one of you idiots would be looking at here "torso."
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 07, 2023 02:32 PM (LOVUx)
Posted by: Archimedes
thats like TJM's bat signal.
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (CIS44)
She has no butt.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 07, 2023 02:32 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (bk5GW)
In fairness to buckley, I think what is considered American conservatism has changed dramatically since Buckley started National Review. It has also changed dramatically since Ronald Reagan. I think that is b/c of talk radio and the internet. conservatives likely used to believe they were in such a minority that the best "conservatism" could do was slow down the left. After Rush Limbaugh and the internet, suddenly we see that we are a pretty large minority and that we can appeal to the low info voters. So, we are pushing for more than just slowing the left down. This is something the GOP still does not understand. But the left does, which is why they are now actively trying to censor us and no longer pretend to like the First Amendment.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 07, 2023 02:32 PM (ky+MF)
I heard she needs to up her paperwork game.
Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at August 07, 2023 02:32 PM (Vu7A1)
Posted by: Cool Hand Luke at August 07, 2023 02:32 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Archer at August 07, 2023 02:33 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: washrivergal at August 07, 2023 02:33 PM (XeHMZ)
Nah, that is what's her name from the Marvel movie... what was it DeBrie Lar'sson?
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:33 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: Skip at August 07, 2023 02:34 PM (MOY79)
She has no butt.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 07, 2023 02:32 PM (KbCG3)
We are an exclusive club.
Posted by: Brie Larson at August 07, 2023 02:34 PM (IXZGh)
Posted by: washrivergal at August 07, 2023 02:33 PM (XeHMZ)
Part of me says, "Send them all to Hell and let Satan sort them out".
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 02:34 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Archimedes
thats like TJM's bat signal.
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (CIS44)
She has no butt.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 07, 2023 02:32 PM (KbCG3)
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She is all boobs. Admittedly spectacular boobs, but if not for the boobs you probably wouldn't have heard of her.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 07, 2023 02:34 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: andycanuck
Difference between dialectic and rhetoric. Lawyers are often sophists, accountants have to more or less practice dialectic otherwise it is hard to make books balance.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:34 PM (bk5GW)
Nah, that is what's her name from the Marvel movie... what was it DeBrie Lar'sson?
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:33 PM (DgaYN)
Your answer is at 400.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 07, 2023 02:34 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: eleven at August 07, 2023 02:34 PM (iziT8)
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (iFTx/)
That's because most low info voters (and even more so leftist voters) can't remember more than last year and the media pretends the leftist candidate is "moderate".
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 07, 2023 02:34 PM (ky+MF)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 07, 2023 02:35 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 07, 2023 02:22 PM (ppBhU
The hell is a crab gonna have a whale for a daughter man come on.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
There is none so blind as he who will not see.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 07, 2023 02:35 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Archimedes
thats like TJM's bat signal.
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (CIS44)
She has no butt.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 07, 2023 02:32 PM (KbCG3)
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She is all boobs. Admittedly spectacular boobs, but if not for the boobs you probably wouldn't have heard of her.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 07, 2023 02:34 PM (iFTx/)
This is known.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 07, 2023 02:35 PM (KbCG3)
Some of the guys might be able to. I have no interest in Kate Upton, nude or otherwise
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 07, 2023 02:35 PM (Keyt1)
Posted by: Elric Blade
I mean she is Justin Verlander's wife. So there is a second reason to know her name
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2023 02:35 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:35 PM (DgaYN)
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (bk5GW)
In fairness to buckley, I think what is considered American conservatism has changed dramatically since Buckley started National Review. It has also changed dramatically since Ronald Reagan. I think that is b/c of talk radio and the internet. conservatives likely used to believe they were in such a minority that the best "conservatism" could do was slow down the left. After Rush Limbaugh and the internet, suddenly we see that we are a pretty large minority and that we can appeal to the low info voters. So, we are pushing for more than just slowing the left down. This is something the GOP still does not understand. But the left does, which is why they are now actively trying to censor us and no longer pretend to like the First Amendment.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 07, 2023 02:32 PM (ky+MF)
Here's a question, then. If you had to pick a time where the US was worth 'conserving', when would that be?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 02:36 PM (/iWhV)
Posted by: Anna Puma"
A fellow campaigner.
Posted by: eleven at August 07, 2023 02:34 PM (iziT
Emotional support BAR.
https://tinyurl.com/5y4f45pa
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 02:36 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: John Fetterman at August 07, 2023 02:36 PM (5hfjS)
Posted by: Archimedes
thats like TJM's bat signal.
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (CIS44)
She has no butt.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 07, 2023 02:32 PM (KbCG3)
And a lack of feminine hips.
Posted by: Doof at August 07, 2023 02:36 PM (2pH9T)
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 07, 2023 02:34 PM (iFTx/)
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You say that like it's a bad thing.
Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2023 02:37 PM (krQz2)
Nah, that is what's her name from the Marvel movie... what was it DeBrie Lar'sson?
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:33 PM (DgaYN)
Your answer is at 400.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 07, 2023 02:34 PM (KbCG3)
404 - butt not found?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 02:37 PM (/iWhV)
What is this bullshit? This is standard fare in banana republics.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at August 07, 2023 02:27 PM (Bd6X
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Forget it, Blanc ... she's a Banana Republican.
Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 07, 2023 02:37 PM (fUjVJ)
yeah
Posted by: John Fetterman at August 07, 2023 02:36 PM (5hfjS)
Just thinking too hard, John.
https://youtu.be/aoQPBEdgwZY
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 07, 2023 02:37 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Fetterman's Lump at August 07, 2023 02:37 PM (Vu7A1)
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 07, 2023 02:29 PM (krqg6)
As a practicing attorney, I can tell you that despite what you are told, that law school is not hard - almost nobody fails out of law school - and the state bars are not hard. And there are a lot of lawyers out there practicing who are dumb as rocks. Lawyers as a group are not highly intelligent people.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 07, 2023 02:38 PM (ky+MF)
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (iFTx/)
That's because most low info voters (and even more so leftist voters) can't remember more than last year and the media pretends the leftist candidate is "moderate".
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 07, 2023 02:34 PM (ky+MF)
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True, but it's also heavy voter harvesting and outright fraud. Big cities and States with big cities are always susceptible to that. That's why I think we should never rest on our laurels on turning FL red. While we take victory laps, the Dums are scheming. Evil never rests.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 07, 2023 02:38 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 07, 2023 02:38 PM (Keyt1)
Tales from the Under-boob
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:35 PM (DgaYN)
Verlander is back pitching for the Astros. It's 105 here this afternoon. So it's Tales from the Sweaty Under-boob.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 07, 2023 02:38 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: washrivergal at August 07, 2023 02:38 PM (XeHMZ)
' he should be given latitude to prevent the opposition from hiding behind constitutional guarantees.'
I think we are at that place with the left. If there is any hope of putting the rule of law back together, they'll have to be taken out BAMN.
It helps me ethically that they already are threatening that to us.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 07, 2023 02:38 PM (YohY1)
Posted by: Orson at August 07, 2023 02:38 PM (dIske)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
And a lack of feminine hips.*
She eats her peas one at a time!
Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at August 07, 2023 02:38 PM (NBVIP)
By the way, there is a video of a Joe Biden speech being shouted down by a crowd of onlookers yelling "F*ck Joe Biden". Does this sound more like something that might have happened to Stalin or Ceausescu to you? We might want to remind Joe how things turned out for the latter.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 07, 2023 02:38 PM (CecP5)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 07, 2023 02:38 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 07, 2023 02:34 PM (iFTx/)
If she's all boobs and no butt, wouldn't she constantly tip over and face plant?
Posted by: Archer at August 07, 2023 02:38 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 07, 2023 02:39 PM (xTRSc)
Posted by: Elric Blade
I mean she is Justin Verlander's wife. So there is a second reason to know her name
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2023 02:35 PM (CIS44)
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Pretty sure the boobs came first . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 07, 2023 02:39 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 07, 2023 02:39 PM (ByQRa)
thats like TJM's bat signal. Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (CIS44)
She has no butt. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 07, 2023 02:32 PM (KbCG3)
Ette critique... No butt and, in model land, a slightly thicker torso. But she has two very huge assets that overcome these deficiencies, plus legs for days and a warm smile. She's a welcome break from the models that think they have to be ice queens to be successful.
Posted by: LizLem at August 07, 2023 02:39 PM (kuSTV)
In fairness to buckley, I think what is considered American conservatism has changed dramatically since Buckley started National Review.
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History is not fair nor are facts. Conservatism by and large is an ideology of defeat on social issues and a handmaiden to corporate interests on economics. Neither have much to do with the quality of the day to day lives of the masses.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:39 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
And a lack of feminine hips.*
She eats her peas one at a time!
Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference
She wouldn't try the pie!
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2023 02:40 PM (CIS44)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
And a lack of feminine hips.*
She eats her peas one at a time!
Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at August 07, 2023 02:38 PM (NBVIP)
She's too...good.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 07, 2023 02:40 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
And a lack of feminine hips.*
She eats her peas one at a time!
Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at August 07, 2023 02:38 PM (NBVIP)
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And has been known to evidence a liking for Nickelback.
Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2023 02:40 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: XTC at August 07, 2023 02:40 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: Andrew Cuomo at August 07, 2023 02:41 PM (aD39U)
thats like TJM's bat signal. Posted by: BruceWayne at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (CIS44)
She has no butt. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 07, 2023 02:32 PM (KbCG3)
Ette critique... No butt and, in model land, a slightly thicker torso. But she has two very huge assets that overcome these deficiencies, plus legs for days and a warm smile. She's a welcome break from the models that think they have to be ice queens to be successful.
Posted by: LizLem at August 07, 2023 02:39 PM (kuSTV)
Additional downside: Her uncle is Fred Upton.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 02:41 PM (/iWhV)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 02:36 PM (/iWhV)
that's an impossible question. In every era, there were things that were good and things that were bad. If we go back to the 1950's there's segregation, etc. If we go back further, there were open borders at earlier times - and it made sense during those times. There was always good and bad. The idea is to keep or reinstate the good and get rid of the bad.
As a realist, we are never going back to the society mores of the 1950s (putting aside segregation and race issues for a moment). and I'm not asking for that.
I don't think American conservatism is at all concerned with "going back" to some bygone era, so much as it wants to bring back things that actually worked and made sense and get rid of things that are bad or unconstitutional.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 07, 2023 02:42 PM (ky+MF)
There are a couple of similarities.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 07, 2023 02:42 PM (YohY1)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke "
Kate Winslett. Who is English and bears no resemblance.
Posted by: eleven at August 07, 2023 02:42 PM (iziT8)
Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2023 02:42 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at August 07, 2023 02:43 PM (Vu7A1)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at August 07, 2023 02:43 PM (B1FKF)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 07, 2023 02:44 PM (xTRSc)
There are a couple of similarities.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 07, 2023 02:42 PM (YohY1)
I think you meant to type:
SIMILARITITTIES
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at August 07, 2023 02:44 PM (CCSxw)
Posted by: eleven at August 07, 2023 02:44 PM (iziT8)
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at August 07, 2023 02:31 PM (LOVUx)
Welp - most beer is around 6% alcohol by volume so, instead of drinking 40% alcohol contained in whiskey at five fifths of whiskey per day (a standard alcoholic) - that would be 46.8 ounces of alcohol versus the 50 beers of ...um 36 ounces of alcohol - so yeah - really no different.
Posted by: Boswell at August 07, 2023 02:44 PM (K+UlC)
Posted by: Darrell Harris
1788-1808. Madison's acquiescence to the war of 1812 was disgraceful. His crabbed idea of what the president should do was in hindsight damaging. Jefferson, at least, was a hypocrite and did the Louisiana Purchase despite his claims about a limited role of the presidency. Jefferson preferred to hide his influence in the shadows via private letters--Madison was more honest and virtuous to his beliefs but his beliefs were not what we would consider successful as an executive. Even Adams was a bit more like Jefferson than Madison in office.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:44 PM (bk5GW)
I almost did.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 07, 2023 02:45 PM (YohY1)
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:39 PM (bk5GW)
that is the "conservatism" of "conservative inc.", not the conservatism of actual voters and those of us on sites like this. The Trump presidency fully exposed conservative inc. for what it was/is - which is as you say, defeatism on social issues and doing the bidding of corporate interests on economic issues.
Which is why I don't give a rat's a** about the GOP or other presidential candidates besides Trump. In my opinion, if elected Desantis will revert back to being a "national review" "conservative".
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 07, 2023 02:45 PM (ky+MF)
They're both blonde and people who hated "Titanic" commented on Winslett's boobs. Shrug.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 07, 2023 02:45 PM (Keyt1)
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Damn contrarians!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 07, 2023 02:46 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Boswell at August 07, 2023 02:44 PM (K+UlC)
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Apart from spending a lot of time in the bathroom.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at August 07, 2023 02:46 PM (ScR16)
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at August 07, 2023 02:46 PM (CCSxw)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 02:36 PM (/iWhV)
that's an impossible question. In every era, there were things that were good and things that were bad. If we go back to the 1950's there's segregation, etc. If we go back further, there were open borders at earlier times - and it made sense during those times. There was always good and bad. The idea is to keep or reinstate the good and get rid of the bad.
As a realist, we are never going back to the society mores of the 1950s (putting aside segregation and race issues for a moment). and I'm not asking for that.
I don't think American conservatism is at all concerned with "going back" to some bygone era, so much as it wants to bring back things that actually worked and made sense and get rid of things that are bad or unconstitutional.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 07, 2023 02:42 PM (ky+MF)
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Conserving values and virtues.
Posted by: ShainS -- We're Happy Ace's Geriatric Club ... at August 07, 2023 02:46 PM (Yg2rB)
Posted by: blaster at August 07, 2023 02:47 PM (Jk9SN)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 02:36 PM (/iWhV)
1985
Posted by: Montec at August 07, 2023 02:47 PM (BqIHC)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at August 07, 2023 02:47 PM (xcxpd)
if elected Desantis will revert back to being a "national review" "conservative"
DeSantis is dead silent on democrats' use of the Justice Department as the personal SS.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 07, 2023 02:47 PM (YohY1)
Posted by: Darrell Harris
1788-1808. Madison's acquiescence to the war of 1812 was disgraceful. His crabbed idea of what the president should do was in hindsight damaging. Jefferson, at least, was a hypocrite and did the Louisiana Purchase despite his claims about a limited role of the presidency. Jefferson preferred to hide his influence in the shadows via private letters--Madison was more honest and virtuous to his beliefs but his beliefs were not what we would consider successful as an executive. Even Adams was a bit more like Jefferson than Madison in office.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:44 PM (bk5GW)
If I had to answer my own question, I'd say 1989-1991, but I'd need to find a way to articulate that well.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 02:47 PM (/iWhV)
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at August 07, 2023 02:48 PM (+A1in)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 07, 2023 02:48 PM (xTRSc)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 07, 2023 02:48 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: Jack "Hole" Smith at August 07, 2023 02:48 PM (YxvtA)
Posted by: JROD at August 07, 2023 02:48 PM (IlL6s)
But at least today I had a break from that shit. I was the Escort Officer at another Funeral at Arlington. Makes me feel good to do that.
Then back to reality. Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 07, 2023 02:49 PM (EVR4i)
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 07, 2023 02:49 PM (krqg6)
Posted by: Boswell at August 07, 2023 02:44 PM (K+UlC)
40% alcohol (80 proof) whiskey is for people whose balls haven't dropped yet. 100 proof or higher
Posted by: Doof at August 07, 2023 02:49 PM (2pH9T)
End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
Harry’s Razors partnered with a “trans man” (female) to promote their razor set
100% of the profits from this set go to the Trevor Project, which promotes gender surgeries for minors
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 07, 2023 02:49 PM (FVME7)
Posted by Ace at 02:36 PM Comments
It is for Presidential elections but is played on school yards across America everyday.
Posted by: Devo at August 07, 2023 02:49 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 07, 2023 02:47 PM (YohY1)
One of many reasons I don't trust him. I've liked him as governor of FL, but we have seen in the past - time and time again - that people who seem "conservative" at the state level become "conservative inc. conservative" at the federal level.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 07, 2023 02:49 PM (ky+MF)
Posted by: Archer at August 07, 2023 02:50 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: I forgot my name
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Conservatism, in a sense, has always been a beautiful loser philosophy and not one of government. Burke himself lost his seat in Parliament as a consequence and never was paid much attention to by the Brits even now. Ditto for the Physiocrats who failed to conserve the French monarchy and so on.
Effectively, a ruling philosophy more or less has to take the one valuable thing that Rousseau says as a benchmark. A nation that is flourishing has most of its inhabitants seeing life is getting better and that is demonstrated by a nation's gaining wealth (not specific individuals), peace, and an increasing organic population (not immigration).
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:50 PM (bk5GW)
The real question is then what.
Posted by: blaster at August 07, 2023 02:47 PM
Indeed. War?
Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemy at August 07, 2023 02:50 PM (GshMh)
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 07, 2023 02:50 PM (Wy1BU)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 02:36 PM (/iWhV)
1955-1959
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 07, 2023 02:50 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: pawn at August 07, 2023 02:50 PM (wsHtO)
Posted by: Fenrisulven at August 07, 2023 02:50 PM (+LcMo)
if you're not drinking 190 proof grain alcohol, you're either a housewife or a homosexual
Posted by: True Gentleman at August 07, 2023 02:51 PM (25k9m)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 07, 2023 02:47 PM (YohY1)
One of many reasons I don't trust him. I've liked him as governor of FL, but we have seen in the past - time and time again - that people who seem "conservative" at the state level become "conservative inc. conservative" at the federal level.
That's very disturbing, except for the part about it's being completely false.
https://tinyurl.com/5642h37p
Posted by: Archimedes at August 07, 2023 02:51 PM (eOEVl)
By and large legacy populated by legacy Americans, also at our peak economically, militarily, taxes were low, etc. and even a majority of Democrats were if not rah rah USA, didn’t want to burn it all down either. I’d freeze 1985 in time and make that forever America.
Posted by: Montec at August 07, 2023 02:51 PM (BqIHC)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 07, 2023 02:36 PM (/iWhV)
1955-1959
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
1946 - 1959.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 07, 2023 02:52 PM (5apCz)
Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemy at August 07, 2023 02:50 PM (GshMh)
Can't, we have jobs.
Posted by: XTC at August 07, 2023 02:52 PM (UnA8+)
Oh dear. At least make up good lies. He outlined an entire plan for what he's going to do and he's addressed that countless times including at an appearance in NH recently. But I guess you missed that?
Posted by: Jack at August 07, 2023 02:52 PM (YxvtA)
Posted by: Darrell Harris
++++
Anytime after a/c.
Posted by: washrivergal at August 07, 2023 02:53 PM (XeHMZ)
Posted by: JROD
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I am of the right but not a conservative.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 02:53 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 07, 2023 02:50 PM (Wy1BU)
They's dead.
Posted by: Can't conserve a corpse. There has to be rebirth. at August 07, 2023 02:53 PM (q1Zxb)
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 07, 2023 02:49 PM (krqg6)
Poor guy, he has a most unfortunate face. Genetic lottery gave him a zero in both looks and morals.
One of the comments says "We're supposed to believe his parents named him Elvis?" From my experience many Asian cultures are obsessed with Elvis. This is the least surprising thing about him.
Posted by: LizLem at August 07, 2023 02:53 PM (kuSTV)
Posted by: Cheri at August 07, 2023 02:54 PM (oiNtH)
President Trump and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me to reject electoral votes and chaos would have ensued. To keep faith with the oath that I made to the American people and to Almighty God, I did my duty that day.
Emerald Robinson ✝️ @EmeraldRobinson 14h
As I've said for years now, Mike Pence was the big snake inside the White House. Who took orders from the corrupt FBI to fire Gen. Flynn in order to kickstart the Russia Hoax?
Now his treachery is out in the open.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 07, 2023 02:54 PM (krqg6)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 07, 2023 02:54 PM (IXZGh)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 07, 2023 02:54 PM (xTRSc)
Posted by: Jack at August 07, 2023 02:54 PM (YxvtA)
Posted by: eleven at August 07, 2023 02:54 PM (iziT8)
Posted by: Montec at August 07, 2023 02:55 PM (BqIHC)
100% of the profits from this set go to the Trevor Project, which promotes gender surgeries for minors"
They weren't fooling me with their gayass bullshit. Obsidian flakes FTW!
Posted by: fd at August 07, 2023 02:55 PM (iayUP)
https://tinyurl.com/5642h37p
Posted by: Archimedes at August 07, 2023 02:51 PM (eOEVl)
Not remotely loud or strong enough. I'm sorry, I don't trust Disantis. He'll be another George W. Bush. He'll be another Marco Rubio. I've been tricked by the GOP far too many times.
As I've said many, many, many, many times before - that may in fact be unfair to Desantis. But the GOP did this to themselves over the last 70 or so years and I have no faith in any GOP candidate. I know what Trump is about and what he will do and I know it's not GOP establishment b.s.
Everyone that is upset that Trump may win the nomination needs to place their anger at the GOP - not the voters who will vote for Trump.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 07, 2023 02:55 PM (ky+MF)
Posted by: Boswell at August 07, 2023 02:44 PM (K+UlC)
40% alcohol (80 proof) whiskey is for people whose balls haven't dropped yet. 100 proof or higher
Posted by: Doof
If you don't throw a case of beer and a fifth of whiskey in the cab of your truck and drink it all while making your beer deliveries, you aren't even trying. Yeah. Grandad.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 07, 2023 02:55 PM (5apCz)
</snark>
Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2023 02:55 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: brak at August 07, 2023 02:55 PM (25k9m)
Posted by: Archer at August 07, 2023 02:55 PM (gmo/4)
She's no Brie Larson by any stretch.
I hear poop comes out of it though. Would not touch. Do not want.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 07, 2023 02:55 PM (ppBhU)
But at least today I had a break from that shit. I was the Escort Officer at another Funeral at Arlington. Makes me feel good to do that.
Then back to reality. Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup
I appreciate you.
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan! at August 07, 2023 02:55 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at August 07, 2023 02:55 PM (9dBi8)
Posted by: Montec at August 07, 2023 02:55 PM (BqIHC)
These days you can be both.
Posted by: How very progressive! at August 07, 2023 02:55 PM (q1Zxb)
Posted by: eleven at August 07, 2023 02:54 PM (iziT
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...that sounds a little rusty...
Posted by: Axeman at August 07, 2023 02:56 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: eleven at August 07, 2023 02:56 PM (iziT8)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 07, 2023 02:56 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan! at August 07, 2023 02:55 PM (U2p+3)
Tell CBD to give you my phone number. About your son
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 07, 2023 02:57 PM (EVR4i)
Sara Higdon
@SaraHigdon_
The MoPOP [Seattle's Museum of Pop Culture] decided to remove all mentions from @jk_rowling. I’m writing this article for @TPostMillennial it reminded me what TRAs took issue with, and it was that she objected to women being called “people who menstruate” it also how the MoPOP grooms kids
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Yeah, Rowling has had almost no affect on pop culture at all.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 07, 2023 02:57 PM (FVME7)
'if you're not drinking 190 proof grain alcohol, you're either a housewife or a homosexual'
If you aren't chugging gasoline or rubbing alcohol, you might as well be a faggot.
Posted by: Some bum in an alley at August 07, 2023 02:57 PM (YohY1)
Posted by: Archer at August 07, 2023 02:55 PM (gmo/4)
++++
I think you are probably and unfortunately correct.
Posted by: washrivergal at August 07, 2023 02:57 PM (XeHMZ)
Posted by: Zek at August 07, 2023 02:57 PM (5FPX4)
Posted by: Jack at August 07, 2023 02:54 PM (YxvtA)
That is a wonderful staw-man argument you have built.
As I just said - I'm sorry, I don't trust Disantis. He'll be another George W. Bush. He'll be another Marco Rubio. I've been tricked by the GOP far too many times.
As I've said many, many, many, many times before - that may in fact be unfair to Desantis. But the GOP did this to themselves over the last 70 or so years and I have no faith in any GOP candidate. I know what Trump is about and what he will do and I know it's not GOP establishment b.s.
Everyone that is upset that Trump may win the nomination needs to place their anger at the GOP - not the voters who will vote for Trump.
I've seen far too many state-level GOP "conservatives" get elected to the federal gov't and become establishment conservatives overnight. It has happened almost to every single conservative darling that has come along. Rubio was going to be the next Ronald Reagan. Cruz was. W Bush was. and on . . .
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 07, 2023 02:58 PM (ky+MF)
Posted by: eleven at August 07, 2023 02:58 PM (iziT8)
Posted by: Jack at August 07, 2023 02:58 PM (YxvtA)
And that better version looks nothing like the garbage being pushed today.
Posted by: zombie Muramoto Musashi at August 07, 2023 02:58 PM (OUMaO)
Posted by: eleven at August 07, 2023 02:58 PM (iziT8)
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at August 07, 2023 02:58 PM (OUMaO)
But in 1984 conservatives were busy trying to conserve the 1950s and in the 1950s conservatives were trying to conserve the 1920s.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 07, 2023 02:59 PM (scAkO)
Posted by: Gen. Eisenhower at August 07, 2023 02:59 PM (YohY1)
Whine? Yeah you took a wrong turn back there, the Vichy Cucks are gathering over at Powerline. Give your wife our regards.
Posted by: Fenrisulven at August 07, 2023 02:59 PM (+LcMo)
But... why? Why get mad at *us?*
If a lot of people who voted for your shitheel Party over and over again through years and years of betrayal after betrayal finally start walking away, isn't that on *them?* Shouldn't you be mad them?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 07, 2023 03:00 PM (Eu88q)
Posted by: Axeman
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That is part of the problem with conservatism--it conserves the victories of the left like a ratchet and never tries to reverse it. Chesterton and his gate analogy is a weak argument for keeping the status quo going because we don't know what will happen if we get rid of a tradition. By implication, this would mean conserving Roe v. Wade for example because the new gate lasted for decades.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 03:01 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: JROD at August 07, 2023 03:01 PM (IlL6s)
*Down from +/- 18% earlier 80s.
The only thing peak about American in the 1980s movies - there were some wonders in those years - some music.
Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemy at August 07, 2023 03:01 PM (GshMh)
You don't k ow what a straw man argument is, do you. Is that something you read on the internet?
DeSantis has a record of things he's done. It convenient y'all would like to memory home that stuff and turn him onto Darth Vader, secret liberal. Then call his wife names, yeah that's convincing. But the facts aren't on your side. Trump has a record too, including COVID and all the stuff he's says he's going to do. Again. It's the same list. No thanks. The guy wins the primary I'll vote for him. But it's a wasted vote.
Posted by: Jack at August 07, 2023 03:02 PM (QaAX4)
And so many others since then. More than all the wars and murders. But schools are consumed by Wokeism instead of teaching our kids how to stay alive.
Posted by: torabora at August 07, 2023 03:02 PM (XOTCJ)
Posted by: Archer at August 07, 2023 02:55 PM (gmo/4)
++++
I think you are probably and unfortunately correct.
Posted by: washrivergal
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Twas always thus but HG never considered what happens when the Eloi are forced to take notice of what time it is. In real history, it doesn't always end like his story.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 03:03 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at August 07, 2023 03:04 PM (krqg6)
Posted by: JROD
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It does matter a bit, pragmatically it doesn't in the short run but having a political philosophy about how humans behave in society and setting up a system to govern them accordingly is important.
Posted by: whig at August 07, 2023 03:06 PM (bk5GW)
Posted by: JROD at August 07, 2023 03:09 PM (IlL6s)
Quote tweet: Mike Pence @Mike_Pence Aug 2
President Trump and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me to reject electoral votes and chaos would have ensued. To keep faith with the oath that I made to the American people and to Almighty God, I did my duty that day.
Please tell me that sanctimonious bullshit isn't real. No one who's serious about running for office could be so stupid that they'd twat out that drivel...
Of course, I know better.
The one thing that really pisses me off about the GOPe is that they will get downright vicious in the primaries, they'll willingly stuff a real conservative or right wing populist into a vat of acid, not to win but just to be sure that the populist won't come out ahead. Then when it comes time for the general election, they turn into poodles wearing pink ribbons and let the Donk commie step all over them.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 07, 2023 03:10 PM (n+4am)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 07, 2023 03:10 PM (YohY1)
Posted by: JROD at August 07, 2023 03:13 PM (IlL6s)
Posted by: SouthCentralPA at August 07, 2023 03:14 PM (J3OJd)
Posted by: JROD at August 07, 2023 03:17 PM (IlL6s)
ie. another 20 years of prevent defense and orderly retreats. While you lecture your own people about Tone and Civility
Hard pass.
Posted by: Fenrisulven at August 07, 2023 03:21 PM (+LcMo)
Posted by: Sam Adams at August 07, 2023 03:23 PM (KEWDx)
I swear you guys could find the dark side of a nude Kate Upton photoshoot.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 07, 2023 02:28 PM (eOEVl)
She's a lefty, right?
Posted by: BifBewalski at August 07, 2023 03:33 PM (3CCua)
-J6ers can’t get fair trial in DC
-Media overhyped it
-Need a new war to distract Americans
-J6 had “no guns, no plans…just people taking selfies”
-No actual insurrection
Posted by: SMOD at August 07, 2023 03:42 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 07, 2023 04:01 PM (ppBhU)
I doubt you ever show me anything. But keep on trying.
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