The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

This is a microcosm of the Democrat/Progressive/Socialist/Post-Modern strategy to overthrow America. They manipulate the law to their own ends, but screech and whine and shout "Fascist!" or "Nazi" when the law is used to combat them.

Florida law allows the governor to remove a State Attorney, and this isn't the first Soros-tool to be sent packing. It is exactly the way to combat the destruction of the rule of law in America, and I hope that other governors follow in his footsteps. The Missouri Attorney General is also leading the charge, pushing Kimberley Gardner out of her seat in St. Louis.

Suspended Soros-linked central Florida prosecutor blasts DeSantis as a 'dictator'

State Attorney Monique Worrell likened Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) to a "weak dictator" after he suspended her for allegedly neglecting her prosecutorial duties in central Florida.
Worrell told reporters on Wednesday that the only thing to be mourning in the wake of her suspension was "the loss of democracy," and introduced herself as the "duly elected state attorney" for the area.

This is all sorts of awesome! Worrell is a soft-on-crime Soros-backed hack, who is also a bit confused by the word "weak." If DeSantis were weak, he wouldn't have been able to suspend her. It is exactly the definition of "power" when one can suspend elected officials. Too bad more governors and AGs aren't doing this, but it is a wonderful example of how to fight the left.

If the Republican Party took this sort of stuff seriously and supported politicians who were willing to fight, our country would be in far better shape. Think what you will about DeSantis, but this is the way we are going to win.

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:00 AM (LvTSG)

2 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 11:00 AM (QNSds)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2023 11:00 AM (Zz0t1)

4 Wtf

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2023 11:01 AM (Jk9SN)

5 It can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2023 11:01 AM (CCeYN)

6 I posted sponge and it wouldn't let me post

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2023 11:01 AM (Jk9SN)

7 Not allowing a communist to inflict their communism is communist, you know.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2023 11:01 AM (Zz0t1)

8 Top 10?!?

Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at August 10, 2023 11:01 AM (RKLPC)

9 "State Attorney Monique Worrell likened Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) to a "weak dictator" after he suspended her for allegedly neglecting her prosecutorial duties in central Florida."

Weak dictator is he? Can you tell us where you are currently employed at.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 11:02 AM (QNSds)

10 Personnel is policy baby.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:02 AM (x1k7+)

11 The body is finally learning how to fight off infection. Maybe we won't have to amputate.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2023 11:02 AM (9UlRk)

12 Glad the non-art art thread is over.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 10, 2023 11:03 AM (xTRSc)

13 If the Republican Party took this sort of stuff seriously and supported politicians who were willing to fight, our country would be in far better shape. Think what you will about DeSantis, but this is the way we are going to win.

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This is going to quickly devolve into a TvD thread, but I'll just say: DeSantis really should be a model for all Republican governors.

Powers are unique across all states, so there are going to be places where DeSantis has more power than others and others have more power than DeSantis, but the aggressive, "We're taking no shit," stance is admirable and a great way to secure power well beyond the next election.

Can't fire a DA because you don't have the power? Well, you should have some power over the flow of state money to their office. Do something with that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:03 AM (LvTSG)

14 I suspect most Dems are happy to see the back of this idiot, but they didn't want to be the ones to say so, thus incurring the wrath of the mob.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:03 AM (eOEVl)

15 Unemployed!

Posted by: Monique Worrell at August 10, 2023 11:03 AM (8Pc4u)

16 The Florida DA was 'elected.' How did that happen in Florida other than by hook and crook?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2023 11:03 AM (Q4IgG)

17 Worrell told reporters on Wednesday that the only thing to be mourning in the wake of her suspension was "the loss of democracy," and introduced herself as the "duly elected state attorney" for the area.
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Sounds insurrectiony

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:03 AM (WkNQM)

18 To finish off the music discussion in the last thread.

https://youtu.be/QAqINhejokU

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2023 11:03 AM (Zz0t1)

19 Maybe a new pixy ism

Posting "sponge" only works if you are actually first?

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2023 11:04 AM (Jk9SN)

20 16 The Florida DA was 'elected.' How did that happen in Florida other than by hook and crook?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2023 11:03 AM (Q4IgG)

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Orlando is one of the bluest areas of the state. They're Democrats in a major city who voted for a Democrat.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:04 AM (LvTSG)

21 If the Republican Party took this sort of stuff seriously and supported politicians who were willing to fight, our country would be in far better shape. Think what you will about DeSantis, but this is the way we are going to win.
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In areas where they have control, conservatives need to purge as many bad actors as possible, as publicly as possible.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:04 AM (WkNQM)

22 I posted sponge and it wouldn't let me post
Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2023 11:01 AM (Jk9SN)

TJM won that battle.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2023 11:04 AM (Zz0t1)

23 Think what you will about DeSantis, but this is the way we are going to win.

If only there were more Govs willing to stand up like DeSantis has in FL. He has shown how it is done and is even taking on Disney (some say even winning). Trump showed how to do it on the national stage but picked horrible dance partners for his cabinet and close advisors.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 10, 2023 11:04 AM (N39Ws)

24 The Florida DA was 'elected.' How did that happen in Florida other than by hook and crook?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2023 11:03 AM (Q4IgG)
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Florida has its own blue hives, they just can't overpower the entire state.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:04 AM (WkNQM)

25 22 I posted sponge and it wouldn't let me post
Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2023 11:01 AM (Jk9SN)

TJM won that battle.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2023 11:04 AM (Zz0t1)

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Unpossible. Sponge is always first.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:05 AM (LvTSG)

26 Can't fire a DA because you don't have the power? Well, you should have some power over the flow of state money to their office. Do something with that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:03 AM (LvTSG)
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Then they will whine and complain that they CAN'T do their job because their office doesn't have funding.

Never mind that they were not doing their job properly in the first place.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2023 11:05 AM (YIVH2)

27 The solution to having your enemies weaponize the State against you is to weaponize the State against them.

Bleating "that is not who we are" is guaranteed to lose.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2023 11:05 AM (2tUFv)

28 26 Then they will whine and complain that they CAN'T do their job because their office doesn't have funding.

Never mind that they were not doing their job properly in the first place.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2023 11:05 AM (YIVH2)

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"I'll resume the funding when x case study of your malfeasance is properly prosecuted."
-At press conference with victim's families

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:06 AM (LvTSG)

29 Why do they use the word "suspended"? Sounds like she can come back after 1-2 week suspension. Can't he say he fired her ass?

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 10, 2023 11:06 AM (7vuhT)

30 Worrell told reporters on Wednesday that the only thing to be mourning in the wake of her suspension was "the loss of democracy,"

"Our precious democracy". You're supposed to call it "our precious democracy". Get with the program!

Posted by: spindrift at August 10, 2023 11:06 AM (FRu7m)

31 The optics game of politics and power is so easy, the only reason the GOP is bad at it is because they choose to be.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:06 AM (LvTSG)

32 Ron is more a do-er than a BS-er

he got rid of - cowardly moron Scott Israel, Soros DA Andrew Warren, and now this piece of garbage incompetent Soros puppet.

no muss no fuss just done and thank you Florida Senate and courts as well for letting the state function properly - by getting rid of clearly incompetent and possibly malicious actors in govt.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2023 11:06 AM (AcWfM)

33 Bleating "that is not who we are" is guaranteed to lose.

It's a cycle. You don't want that, do you?

Posted by: The Serene Turtle at August 10, 2023 11:06 AM (eOEVl)

34 Florida has its own blue hives, they just can't overpower the entire state.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:04 AM (WkNQM

GOP traded the presidential for FLA. Simple as. Collusion
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Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:06 AM (x1k7+)

35 Worrell told reporters on Wednesday that the only thing to be mourning in the wake of her suspension was "the loss of democracy,"

Boy, the commies have beaten that one to death, a thousand times over.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 10, 2023 11:07 AM (Xrfse)

36 I know why the Bolsheviks did the no crime except against the state, but except following the Bolsheviks the Soros DA's are doing it unless it's to wipe out our civilization

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2023 11:07 AM (CCeYN)

37 32 no muss no fuss just done and thank you Florida Senate and courts as well for letting the state function properly - by getting rid of clearly incompetent and possibly malicious actors in govt.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2023 11:06 AM (AcWfM)

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That is an important part of this. It's not DeSantis alone in a sea. He's got a lot of backup.

I'm sure a Republican governor of a state like Mississippi could help manage that backup on his own part if he tried.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:07 AM (LvTSG)

38 She couldn't find anything to indict Trump for?

Posted by: BignJames at August 10, 2023 11:07 AM (AwYPR)

39 Part of Pence Pants notes is that Jeff Clark brought up the existence of the 1792 insurrection act during discussions on what could be done about the fraudulent election. Now Zoe Lofgren is screeching that Trump literally was going to deploy the military in every US city and start shooting citizens.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2023 11:07 AM (b6WkX)

40 Florida has a strong Governor's office, I wish Texas did. The Texas Gov office was designed to be very weak, and has no authority to do anything like this.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2023 11:08 AM (i9ffA)

41 I figure anyone who calls you a fascist must be a communist, unless you are a fascist.

Posted by: javems at August 10, 2023 11:08 AM (AmoqO)

42 The body is finally learning how to fight off infection. Maybe we won't have to amputate.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2023 11:02 AM (9UlRk)

I suggest you need a second opinion. There are parts that need immediate excising.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 10, 2023 11:08 AM (BdMk6)

43 If the Republican Party took this sort of stuff seriously and supported politicians who were willing to fight, our country would be in far better shape. Think what you will about DeSantis, but this is the way we are going to win.

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"Red" states Attorney General should all be prosecuting the Biden Crime Scum Family members and every other Deep State Goon -- starting with the mass-murdering Fauci -- for every conceivable crime committed (or just start making it up like The Left and their Calvinball Lawfare).

Let them reap what they've sewn ... good and hard!

Posted by: ShainS -- Chief 'Misinformation' Researcher at AoSHQ at August 10, 2023 11:09 AM (6VKyY)

44 29 Why do they use the word "suspended"? Sounds like she can come back after 1-2 week suspension. Can't he say he fired her ass?

the way it works now is the Senate must decide. But the good news is they will likely rule to dismiss her AND the suspension means she can't do any more damage in the meantime. She can also pursue a lawsuit, but again, she is suspended during that time.

Warren pursued a lawsuit and tried to ignore Florida law and keep doing his job (for Soros not for Floridians!) during is suspension, which didn't work. They didn't let him into his office or allow him to actually appear in court or do anything substantive and eventually he had to accept he was suspended. and the courts found that he was rightfully dismissed so that was that!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2023 11:09 AM (AcWfM)

45 That is an important part of this. It's not DeSantis alone in a sea. He's got a lot of backup.

I'm sure a Republican governor of a state like Mississippi could help manage that backup on his own part if he tried.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:07 AM (LvTSG)

This is a good point. The GOP is backing him. It's obv for ulterior motivee in re DJT but it is good.

I expect the GOP will allow meatwad to do more good things in their effort to stop DJT.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:09 AM (x1k7+)

46 Florida has a strong Governor's office, I wish Texas did. The Texas Gov office was designed to be very weak, and has no authority to do anything like this.

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You have to use the power the office has, but you also have to create and find power where you can. Abbott is weak on the latter.

Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at August 10, 2023 11:09 AM (sX1BW)

47 Let them reap what they've sewn ... good and hard!

*cough*sown*cough*

Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:09 AM (eOEVl)

48 Would like to see Youngkin do this in VA. Its just not his style. Fairfax and Loudon could use a friend in Richmond.

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 10, 2023 11:10 AM (2graF)

49 If the Republican Party took this sort of stuff seriously and supported politicians who were willing to fight,

Whoa! Let's not get too radical here. That's not who we are!

Posted by: Ronna McDaniel at August 10, 2023 11:11 AM (a3Q+t)

50 But what happens when blue-state governors start removing good, solid, hard-on-crime state attorneys who were duly elected?

I'm all for removing these Soros commie stooges in theory. But all of them were duly elected by voters. If they suck balls and let criminals roam free, then the voters have nobody to blame but themselves. They voted for it. They can get raped and murdered for it.

Oh and I googled Monique Worrell. She looks exactly like you think she does: far left lunatic diversity hire, and probably a dyke.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2023 11:11 AM (iFTx/)

51 I posted sponge and it wouldn't let me post
Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2023 11:01 AM (Jk9SN)

Next time, throw the system off by posting Phylum Porifera.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 10, 2023 11:11 AM (z99Zw)

52 Would like to see Youngkin do this in VA. Its just not his style. Fairfax and Loudon could use a friend in Richmond.

I don't know that he has the authority to do it.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:11 AM (eOEVl)

53 43 "Red" states Attorney General should all be prosecuting the Biden Crime Scum Family members and every other Deep State Goon -- starting with the mass-murdering Fauci -- for every conceivable crime committed (or just start making it up like The Left and their Calvinball Lawfare).

Let them reap what they've sewn ... good and hard!
Posted by: ShainS -- Chief 'Misinformation' Researcher at AoSHQ at August 10, 2023 11:09 AM (6VKyY)

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I think a better thing would be to focus on the state arms of the Democrat Party that are breaking election rules, funding rules, and all the other crimes they support.

Our future isn't at the federal level. It's at the state level. Cripple the Democrat Party in a place like KY or TN or GA by digging out the ticks in the government, the NGOs that fund the Party's actions, while making elections cleaner.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:11 AM (LvTSG)

54 Would like to see Youngkin do this in VA. Its just not his style. Fairfax and Loudon could use a friend in Richmond.
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 10, 2023 11:10 AM (2graF)

He might if the GOP decides he is the one to defeat DJT.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:11 AM (x1k7+)

55 If you plant flax or cotton, you can sew what you reap.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2023 11:11 AM (9UlRk)

56 Speaking of the Deep State, the World Bank just cut off all funding to Uganda because Uganda passed "anti-gay" legislation.

This is weird, because quite a few counties prescribe the death penalty for homosexuality, and the World Bank doesn't cut them off.

Ah, but those countries are Muslim, and Uganda is Christian.

Muslim countries get a pass, but Christian countries have to toe the LBGT line. Or Else.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2023 11:11 AM (2tUFv)

57 Think what you will about DeSantis, but this is the way we are going to win.

If only there were more Govs willing to stand up like DeSantis has in FL. He has shown how it is done and is even taking on Disney (some say even winning). Trump showed how to do it on the national stage but picked horrible dance partners for his cabinet and close advisors.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 10, 2023 11:04 AM (N39Ws)

The "dance partner" comment is key. I think Heavy D has done a great job. But he has a mountain of help not available to other governors. Vote well down ballot and you are more likely to get a governor with spine because he has something to lean on.

Posted by: Catherine at August 10, 2023 11:12 AM (ZSsrh)

58 Abbot took over Harris county in TX. Rick Snyder took over Detroit and Flint in MI. They all have that "pattern" of basically bring the blue cities "to heel". States like FL, MI, and probably TX, have laws that allow it. We have a similar authority here in PA - but targeted for fiscal problems, NOT "policy" issues.

The question then becomes have any (D) governors actually used the authority and "removed" any from office that their statutes allow? No. Remember when posters were demanding NY Governor Hochul replace NYC DA Bragg because he was not pursuing Trump? I do.

He did go after a white official first. Last year he suspended Andrew Warren, a white male, so I’ll give him credit for at least making a tiny pretense of covering his most despicable actions.

The law says he may fill the office by appointment for the period of suspension. He gets to put a Republican lackey in the office to rubberstamp his own view of law enforcement, despite the voter's apparent wish for a balancing factor.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 10, 2023 11:12 AM (JCZqz)

59 48 I thought Jason Miyaras was going after rogue DAs in VA?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 10, 2023 11:12 AM (xTRSc)

60 Soros-backed hack, who is also a bit confused by the word "weak.
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Never forget, it's a script.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2023 11:12 AM (9xrzV)

61 But what happens when blue-state governors start removing good, solid, hard-on-crime state attorneys who were duly elected?

If they could, and if they wanted to, they'd have already done it.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:12 AM (eOEVl)

62 If you plant flax or cotton, you can sew what you reap.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2023 11:11 AM (9UlRk)
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See, this right here is cause for hope. No AI could come up with this gem.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:12 AM (WkNQM)

63 But what happens when blue-state governors start removing good, solid, hard-on-crime state attorneys who were duly elected?

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I guess you have to keep fighting then.

Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at August 10, 2023 11:12 AM (sX1BW)

64 This quote from the DA is Kamala level word salad bullshit;

"This is an outrage. Three years ago, I was elected by the people of the Ninth Judicial Circuit to lead this circuit and yes, to do things unconventionally, to do things differently. But I didn't hide, I didn't say I would do things and I wouldn't do them. I didn't say I wouldn't do things and not did them. I did exactly what I said I would do and that is what you want from an elected official," Worrell continued.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2023 11:13 AM (Q4IgG)

65 ... He did go after a white official first. Last year he suspended Andrew Warren, a white male, so I’ll give him credit for at least making a tiny pretense of covering his most despicable actions. ...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 10, 2023 11:12 AM (JCZqz)
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These people must spend an absolute fortune on shrinks.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:13 AM (WkNQM)

66 "State Attorney Monique Worrell likened Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) to a "weak dictator" after he suspended her for allegedly neglecting her prosecutorial duties in central Florida."

To recap my own quote from the Morning Report, if DeSantis really were the dictator Worrell pretends he is, she'd be nothing more than smoke up a chimney right now.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2023 11:13 AM (AW0uW)

67 58 The law says he may fill the office by appointment for the period of suspension. He gets to put a Republican lackey in the office to rubberstamp his own view of law enforcement, despite the voter's apparent wish for a balancing factor.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 10, 2023 11:12 AM (JCZqz)

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The voters wanted something illegal: non-prosecution of crimes.

I'm not opposed to voters getting what they want, good and hard, but DeSantis obviously has the power to do this. This isn't just a disagreement over policy, this is an executive (the DA) essentially writing new law through non-enforcement.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:14 AM (LvTSG)

68 Florida has a strong Governor's office, I wish Texas did. The Texas Gov office was designed to be very weak, and has no authority to do anything like this.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Be thankful. Considering some of the governors we've had. Ma Barker, Ann Richards, Mark White, etc.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2023 11:14 AM (DVsQD)

69 23 Think what you will about DeSantis, but this is the way we are going to win.

If only there were more Govs willing to stand up like DeSantis has in FL. He has shown how it is done and is even taking on Disney (some say even winning). Trump showed how to do it on the national stage but picked horrible dance partners for his cabinet and close advisors.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 10, 2023 11:04 AM (N39Ws)

I agree this is the way. He has the backing of his legislature.
Then again so does TX and SC (others as well) and they don't do half of what they should be doing.

Posted by: Inogame at August 10, 2023 11:14 AM (53oGX)

70 ... The law says he may fill the office by appointment for the period of suspension. He gets to put a Republican lackey in the office to rubberstamp his own view of law enforcement, despite the voter's apparent wish for a balancing factor.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 10, 2023 11:12 AM (JCZqz)
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Then the voter's "balancing factor" can actually do her job. The voters don't get to pick a dictator who declares that she *is* the law and it's her way or the highway.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:14 AM (WkNQM)

71 31 The optics game of politics and power is so easy, the only reason the GOP is bad at it is because they choose to be.
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Umm, they have no air force. Dems have Manhattan Media and the Silicon Valley Inquisition.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2023 11:14 AM (DmtxH)

72 65 These people must spend an absolute fortune on shrinks.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:13 AM (WkNQM)

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"And we'll never tell them that they're all better."
-The Shrinks, putting their kids through college

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:14 AM (LvTSG)

73 Florida has a strong Governor's office, I wish Texas did. The Texas Gov office was designed to be very weak, and has no authority to do anything like this.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2023 11:08 AM (i9ffA)

If the Dems ever cheat their way back into the Governor's Mansion, you'll appreciate that fact. Sadly, in the current system, we get to deal with a plethora of "Republicans" in the legislature.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 10, 2023 11:14 AM (z99Zw)

74 Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2023 11:09 AM
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Ah. Thanks.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 10, 2023 11:15 AM (7vuhT)

75 DeSantis is a good guy. He’s just not worthy of the Presidency before President Trump.
No fn’way.

Posted by: Keezen at August 10, 2023 11:15 AM (XTpg5)

76 71 31 The optics game of politics and power is so easy, the only reason the GOP is bad at it is because they choose to be.
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Umm, they have no air force. Dems have Manhattan Media and the Silicon Valley Inquisition.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2023 11:14 AM (DmtxH)

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I question their effectiveness. A strong air force like that wouldn't lead to six states needing to shut down in the middle of the night to ballot box stuff like Tammany Hall.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:15 AM (LvTSG)

77 Texas DA's are untouchable because they are funded on the county level, which is completely independent of the state level. (And city prosecutors are independent of both of them)

Travis County was going big on trying to always harass conservative office holders, so at least a few years back the Legislature stripped all jurisdiction for any corruption investigations away from Travis County. But a move like that takes getting *everybody* on board, and it's still a flawed system.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2023 11:15 AM (i9ffA)

78 He did go after a white official first. Last year he suspended Andrew Warren, a white male, so I’ll give him credit for at least making a tiny pretense of covering his most despicable actions.

two white male officials first: Scott Israel and Warren

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2023 11:15 AM (AcWfM)

79 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 10, 2023 11:15 AM (T4tVD)

80 Hopeful about DeSantis but the money train for votes never stops when it comes to the B/H Administration, i.e.,

Reuters, Aug 9: VP Harris promises a 'raise' for US workers on federal projects

WSJ, Opinion, Aug 9: Pennsylvania’s Big Government Union Payback. Gov. Josh Shapiro signs off on huge pay raises for his top campaign contributors.

VOA, July 20: Major Strikes Loom in US Labor Market

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemy at August 10, 2023 11:16 AM (GshMh)

81 He’s just not worthy of the Presidency before President Trump.
No fn’way.

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Wouldn't he be after President Trump?

Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at August 10, 2023 11:16 AM (sX1BW)

82 I thought CBD was on vacay ?

Posted by: JT at August 10, 2023 11:16 AM (T4tVD)

83 What? She didn't also scream racism? Must be slipping.

Posted by: Archer at August 10, 2023 11:16 AM (gmo/4)

84 "This is an outrage. Three years ago, I was elected by the people of the Ninth Judicial Circuit to lead this circuit and yes, to do things unconventionally, to do things differently.

No, sugartits, you weren't. You were elected to follow the law and prosecute criminals.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2023 11:16 AM (DVsQD)

85 If DeSantis really was a dictator, he's have removed that Soros bitch more kinetically.

Or at least added her to a proscription list and let enterprising morons earn a payday....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2023 11:16 AM (xcxpd)

86 39 Part of Pence Pants notes is that Jeff Clark brought up the existence of the 1792 insurrection act during discussions on what could be done about the fraudulent election. Now Zoe Lofgren is screeching that Trump literally was going to deploy the military in every US city and start shooting citizens.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 10, 2023 11:07 AM (b6WkX)

I guess the only problem is he did none of that.

Posted by: Inogame at August 10, 2023 11:17 AM (53oGX)

87 Massachusetts again asking people with extra rooms to take in illegals.
Again why not house criminals and clear out crowding jails while you are at it?

https://legalinsurrection.com/state of emergency massachusetts governor calls on residents to-open-homes-to illegal immigrants

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2023 11:17 AM (CCeYN)

88 84 No, sugartits, you weren't. You were elected to follow the law and prosecute criminals.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2023 11:16 AM (DVsQD)

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Let's be honest: She probably campaigned on letting criminals go free, and the people elected her.

However, if that's what the people want: they should get their city council to actually repeal some criminal laws, at least.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:17 AM (LvTSG)

89 Some people want to be prosecutors, so that they can refuse to prosecute. They're subversive like that.

Posted by: Wofus at August 10, 2023 11:17 AM (QFmvK)

90 If they could, and if they wanted to, they'd have already done it.
Posted by: Archimedes
___

That really is the long and the short of it.

Republicans "pulling punches" expecting mercy from Democrats are delusional. Any lever they can pull, they already have.

Example: As soon as Democrats had the numbers, they got rid of the filibuster on judicial nominations .

They tried getting rid of it on everything but 2 of their members balked. That's all that saved us.

Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:17 AM (9zh4W)

91 Umm, they have no air force. Dems have Manhattan Media and the Silicon Valley Inquisition.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2023 11:14 AM (DmtxH)

Fig leaf for GOP treachery against their putative voters.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:17 AM (x1k7+)

92 Massachusetts again asking people with extra rooms to take in illegals.
Again why not house criminals and clear out crowding jails while you are at it? ...
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2023 11:17 AM (CCeYN)
++++
Today, they ask.
Tomorrow, they mandate.
Next week, they kill you and take your property.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:18 AM (WkNQM)

93 Then the voter's "balancing factor" can actually do her job. The voters don't get to pick a dictator who declares that she *is* the law and it's her way or the highway.

exactly Joe

and to the poster who said "well then a Dem Gov could do the same" - no not really

Warren and this dumb bunny were ignoring mandatory minimum sentences, ignoring laws, just blatant garbage.

when that little girl and the journalist got shot but a repeated violent felon in Orlando, that's when Ron started the ball rolling on getting rid of Worrel. it was her fault, directly! (well not the shooting but she let that crumb-bum out)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2023 11:18 AM (AcWfM)

94 Oh no!

Someone trying to get me and my family robbed/raped/murdered by criminals and flood our country with hostile third worlders is calling me names!

How awful. I'm sure this will haunt me after the one way helicopter ride.

Posted by: somedood at August 10, 2023 11:18 AM (uGpeQ)

95 No, sugartits, you weren't. You were elected to follow the law and prosecute criminals.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2023 11:16 AM (DVsQD)

Yep.

Posted by: Archer at August 10, 2023 11:18 AM (gmo/4)

96 You have to use the power the office has, but you also have to create and find power where you can. Abbott is weak on the latter.
Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at August 10, 2023 11:09 AM (sX1BW)

Didn't Abbott start the "shipping illegals north" thing? Hasn't Abbott put barriers across the border to try and hold back the flood? Abbott doesn't get the press that DeSantis does because he's not being used as a foil against Trump.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 10, 2023 11:18 AM (z99Zw)

97
Oh and I googled Monique Worrell. She looks exactly like you think she does: far left lunatic diversity hire, and probably a dyke.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2023 11:11 AM (iFTx/)

She should be Mayor then!

Posted by: Larry Lightfoot at August 10, 2023 11:19 AM (53oGX)

98 Then the voter's "balancing factor" can actually do her job. The voters don't get to pick a dictator who declares that she *is* the law and it's her way or the highway.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:14 AM (WkNQM)
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Why not? If the voters want to effectively decriminalize certain crimes, then why can't they? Same as if the legislature amended the criminal code. Yes, I get the legislative vs executive distinction. But there's an awful lot of grey area there when it comes to prosecutorial discretion.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2023 11:19 AM (iFTx/)

99 sorry - "got shot BY a repeated felon"

several innocent people were killed and others wounded by someone who had no business being free and the people of Florida had made their voices known on that! but these Soros DAs just ignored the law, repeatedly, it was a clear pattern.

they were the tyrants!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2023 11:19 AM (AcWfM)

100 If DeSantis really was a dictator, he's have removed that Soros bitch more kinetically.

Catching mortars at 800 yds.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2023 11:19 AM (DVsQD)

101 But what happens when blue-state governors start removing good, solid, hard-on-crime state attorneys who were duly elected?

Let 'em try.

In Oregon, judges at the county level have to run for office once every four years.

The former governor tried to appoint a couple of Leftist types to judgeships in conservative counties, and they were promptly voted out of office in the next election.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM (2tUFv)

102 Our future isn't at the federal level. It's at the state level. Cripple the Democrat Party in a place like KY or TN or GA by digging out the ticks in the government, the NGOs that fund the Party's actions, while making elections cleaner.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:11 AM (LvTSG)

Don't make them too clean!

Posted by: Brian Kemp at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM (53oGX)

103 Trump won't pledge to support the GOP nom, so likely won't be in the debate. Yup, we owe him. Excuse mongering for him in 3...2...1...

https://tinyurl.com/4pm2vm8z

Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM (eOEVl)

104 Oh and I googled Monique Worrell. She looks exactly like you think she does: far left lunatic diversity hire, and probably a dyke.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2023 11:11 AM (iFTx/)

A more presentable product of thug culture.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM (O63T0)

105 Didn't Abbott start the "shipping illegals north" thing? Hasn't Abbott put barriers across the border to try and hold back the flood? Abbott doesn't get the press that DeSantis does because he's not being used as a foil against Trump.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

As far as I'm concerned, he's been a great Governor. People rightly point out the TX Governor isnt all that strong.

I also think in general, Republicans do better "quietly" getting real shit done to not spook the soccer moms.

Youngkin is a good example.

Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM (9zh4W)

106 23 Think what you will about DeSantis, but this is the way we are going to win. If only there were more Govs willing to stand up like DeSantis has in FL.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 10, 2023 11:04 AM

While Trump is still my #1, I must admit I am DeSantis-curious. My Governor (Reynolds, IA) has embraced a very DeSantis like posture on governing, as well, thrashing the State dems and making them cry in despair in such a way Conan would approve.

We just sent 120-some Iowa Guard troops to Texas to help with Abbott's border security mission using Federal COVID funds. Our Dem State treasurer kept trying to stop and slow down spending on various programs, so the Gov effectively neutered his position, and on and on.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM (JCZqz)

107 Good morning.
Even MSM forced to admit that Texas ploy of sending illegals to blue cities is working. However, they refuse to give any credit to Florida for doing the same.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM (t/2Uw)

108 Why not? If the voters want to effectively decriminalize certain crimes, then why can't they? Same as if the legislature amended the criminal code. Yes, I get the legislative vs executive distinction. But there's an awful lot of grey area there when it comes to prosecutorial discretion.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2023 11:19 AM (iFTx/)
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Because her job is to follow the law. She didn't. She rejected things like mandatory minimum sentences and refused to prosecute crimes based on shit like race. It's illegal, and she got fired for it and rightly so.

If her constituents want the end of mandatory minimums, for example, they can try to do flip the state house and do that.

She should have been fired for the same reason that all of the accountable people in "sanctuary city" policies should have been arrested.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM (WkNQM)

109 I thought the Marxists are going after the Texas AG to get him off their trail?

Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM (CCeYN)

110 107 Good morning.
Even MSM forced to admit that Texas ploy of sending illegals to blue cities is working. However, they refuse to give any credit to Florida for doing the same.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM (t/2Uw)

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Well, Texas is getting the brunt of it and doing most of the shipping.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:21 AM (LvTSG)

111 Trump won't pledge to support the GOP nom, so likely won't be in the debate. Yup, we owe him. Excuse mongering for him in 3...2...1...

https://tinyurl.com/4pm2vm8z
Posted by: Archimedes
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I really have zero doubt that if he doesnt get the nomination, he will do everything in his power to get Biden reelected.

Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:21 AM (9zh4W)

112 29 Why do they use the word "suspended"? Sounds like she can come back after 1-2 week suspension. Can't he say he fired her ass?
Posted by: olddog in mo at August 10, 2023 11:06 AM (7vuhT)

IIRC, the suspension is the first step in a two or three stage process that ends up with her standing on a street corner with a sign saying “Will litigate for food”.

Posted by: Fox 2! at August 10, 2023 11:21 AM (pY7Lj)

113 Personally, I believe Judges and prosecutors should be appointed by state legislatures and signed off on by governors.

But we'd probably screw that up too.

Posted by: Archer at August 10, 2023 11:21 AM (gmo/4)

114 Trump won't pledge to support the GOP nom, so likely won't be in the debate. Yup, we owe him. Excuse mongering for him in 3...2...1...

https://tinyurl.com/4pm2vm8z
Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM (eOEVl)

He got +74mil votes!

Why is he being primaried by his party?

Why should he work with a party that is primary-ing him after getting +74mil votes?

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:21 AM (x1k7+)

115 "If the Republican Party took this sort of stuff seriously and supported politicians who were willing to fight, our country would be in far better shape. Think what you will about DeSantis, but this is the way we are going to win."

This sort of thing is instrumental to creating concentrations of like-minded resistance, which is going to be important. But it's not going to "win" directly.

Because nobody is voting their way out of this. These people are simply not going to stop of their own accord.

Posted by: somedood at August 10, 2023 11:21 AM (uGpeQ)

116 Moron Analyst you have a good Governor there. I agree she "walks softly but carries a big stick" - a nice posture

maybe it works better for state executives than federal ones I dunno

I literally don't care b/c I want the entire federal apparatus to go

all of it

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2023 11:21 AM (AcWfM)

117 104 Oh and I googled Monique Worrell. She looks exactly like you think she does: far left lunatic diversity hire, and probably a dyke.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2023 11:11 AM (iFTx/)

A more presentable product of thug culture.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM (O63T0)
______

Yea, and not as hideous as I expected. She's no Lori Lightfoot. But all these commie DAs and mayors and whatevers look EXACTLY the same. It's like Soros is creating them in some old Nazi lab somewhere.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2023 11:22 AM (iFTx/)

118 I really have zero doubt that if he doesnt get the nomination, he will do everything in his power to get Biden reelected.

I doubt that, but he might not go out of his way to persuade his supporters to vote GOP.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:22 AM (eOEVl)

119 I agree this is the way. He has the backing of his legislature.
Then again so does TX and SC (others as well) and they don't do half of what they should be doing.
Posted by: Inogame at August 10, 2023 11:14 AM (53oGX)

The Texas legislature is Republican but the House, at least, is not MAGA... they're GOPe.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 10, 2023 11:22 AM (z99Zw)

120 I thought CBD was on vacay ?

Posted by: JT at August 10, 2023 11:16 AM (T4tVD)

I'm BACK!

[until next week!]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2023 11:22 AM (2PzdM)

121 108 If her constituents want the end of mandatory minimums, for example, they can try to do flip the state house and do that.

She should have been fired for the same reason that all of the accountable people in "sanctuary city" policies should have been arrested.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM (WkNQM)

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It's about separation of powers. If we allow the executive to just write new laws, then we have one body writing law and executing law at the same time, which consolidates power into one body, out of alignment with good governing principles that the US was built on.

Process is important in order to maintain the consent of the governed. End rounding it by electing an executive who will simply not follow the law is antithetical to the American experiment. It's essentially electing a small monarchy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:23 AM (LvTSG)

122 DeSantis did something smart after he fired this yutz. He appointed an African American judge to take the position. The left can't scream "racism" or they'll look dumber than usual

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 10, 2023 11:23 AM (91b3H)

123 114 Trump won't pledge to support the GOP nom, so likely won't be in the debate. Yup, we owe him. Excuse mongering for him in 3...2...1...
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Why support a party apparatus that never supported him?

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 10, 2023 11:23 AM (2graF)

124 114 Trump won't pledge to support the GOP nom, so likely won't be in the debate. Yup, we owe him. Excuse mongering for him in 3...2...1...

https://tinyurl.com/4pm2vm8z
Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM (eOEVl)

He got +74mil votes!

Why is he being primaried by his party?

Why should he work with a party that is primary-ing him after getting +74mil votes?

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:21 AM (x1k7+)

THIS. Trumps rivals are splitting the party, not Trump. If the election wasn't stolen, they should run. If it was, they shouldn't. Simple as that.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2023 11:23 AM (/iWhV)

125 I really have zero doubt that if he doesnt get the nomination, he will do everything in his power to get Biden reelected.
Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:21 AM (9zh4W)

If he doesn't get the nom, the GOP is defunct.

That happens when you openly decide to screw your putative voters.

I pray it happens.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:23 AM (x1k7+)

126 "117
He got +74mil votes!
Why is he being primaried by his party?
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:21 AM (x1k7+)"

Because the national level GOP and many state level organizations are a total fraud? Is this a real question, in 2023? Have you been asleep in a cryo pod or something?

Posted by: somedood at August 10, 2023 11:23 AM (uGpeQ)

127 Ah, but those countries are Muslim, and Uganda is Christian.

Muslim countries get a pass, but Christian countries have to toe the LBGT line. Or Else.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2023 11:11 AM (2tUFv)

Uganda needs to find other sources of investment. Or live within their means. A radical notion, I know. Maybe Putin can shoot 'em some rubles.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2023 11:23 AM (O63T0)

128 If her constituents want the end of mandatory minimums, for example, they can try to do flip the state house and do that.

The problem with Soros DAs is that their tolerance of crime starts spilling over into adjacent counties.

The State has an interest in stopping that.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2023 11:24 AM (2tUFv)

129 Trump won't pledge to support the GOP nom, so likely won't be in the debate. Yup, we owe him. Excuse mongering for him in 3...2...1...
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Why support a party apparatus that never supported him?

Presumably because the winner of the primary is who the people wanted.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:24 AM (eOEVl)

130 I can make a strong argument that Abbott is by far the strongest conservative Gov TX has ever had. In the past there when Democrats ruled it was easy for a Gov to be strong because they ruled through The Party, not through courts or state officers, who were all just rubber stamps.

Conservatives have never been able, and will never be able to institute that level of control.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2023 11:24 AM (i9ffA)

131 CBD, just finished The Judas Goat. Hawk is a great character and made the story way more fun. And yes, Spenser knows nothing about cooking(he steamed eggs in white wine) and is a bit clueless about firearms.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 11:24 AM (t/2Uw)

132 130 I can make a strong argument that Abbott is by far the strongest conservative Gov TX has ever had. In the past there when Democrats ruled it was easy for a Gov to be strong because they ruled through The Party, not through courts or state officers, who were all just rubber stamps.

Conservatives have never been able, and will never be able to institute that level of control.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2023 11:24 AM (i9ffA)

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I remember when he was definitely going to lose re-election because he shut down Texas.

That's how much of a non-issue bad governance over covid has become.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:25 AM (LvTSG)

133
THIS. Trumps rivals are splitting the party, not Trump. If the election wasn't stolen, they should run. If it was, they shouldn't. Simple as that.

It's a primary, not a coronation.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:25 AM (eOEVl)

134 If the Republican Party took this sort of stuff seriously and supported politicians who were willing to fight, our country would be in far better shape. Think what you will about DeSantis, but this is the way we are going to win.

--

Remember in the 2022 mid-terms when there had never been a more winnable sweeping election available and the sitting Republicans actively helped the Democrats?

There was a lesson there for anyone who wanted to see it. Sure there has been a lesson over the last 30 years or so of (R)s pretending to do something, but that was different. They actually DID something. They worked to help Democrats win rather than help elect conservative candidates that their constituents wanted and were voting for.

They couldn't even be bothered to write down a plan for dealing with inflation for when they took both houses of Congress. Wonder why that was?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:25 AM (NdB+W)

135 Trump won't pledge to support the GOP nom, so likely won't be in the debate. Yup, we owe him. Excuse mongering for him in 3...2...1...

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This is such a dumb pledge. Maybe there was a time when it had some value. But it doesn't anymore. Frankly, its just as dumb as asking someone if they will support Trump if he is the nominee.

Posted by: SH (But Prefer Clark Griswold) at August 10, 2023 11:25 AM (sX1BW)

136 103 Trump won't pledge to support the GOP nom, so likely won't be in the debate. Yup, we owe him. Excuse mongering for him in 3...2...1...

https://tinyurl.com/4pm2vm8z
Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM

I seem to recall MANY high profile GOP leaders pledging not to support Trump if he were the nominee, and not facing consequences from the party. Not sure why Trump owes the party anything in return...just the base and his supporters.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at August 10, 2023 11:25 AM (JCZqz)

137 Uganda needs to find other sources of investment. Or live within their means. A radical notion, I know. Maybe Putin can shoot 'em some rubles.

Yeah, if the Russians and Chinese were clever, they'd announce the creation of a borrowing facility for Uganda to replace the World Bank.

They may yet do that.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2023 11:26 AM (2tUFv)

138 124: so we have to take an oath of loyalty to Trump?

Sorry. He is just going to have to fight for it like anyone else. Besides, it might make him better.

Besides, I’m not voting for whoever the Dems trot out next year anyway. If Trump gets the nomination, great. If DeSantis gets the nomination, great.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2023 11:26 AM (gVXz8)

139 Presumably because the winner of the primary is who the people wanted.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:24 AM (eOEVl)

Jfc such brain dead facile word magic bullshit.

"I CAST MY LEVEL ONE SPELL OF BAMBOOZLING OBFUSCATION!"

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:26 AM (x1k7+)

140 DeSantis really should be a model for all Republican governors.

Powers are unique across all states, so there are going to be places where DeSantis has more power than others and others have more power than DeSantis, but the aggressive, "We're taking no shit," stance is admirable and a great way to secure power well beyond the next election.

Can't fire a DA because you don't have the power? Well, you should have some power over the flow of state money to their office. Do something with that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:03 AM (LvTSG)

THIS!

This is probably not realistic, but I wonder if governors can extradite (not quite the right word) (intradite?) their own residents from the DC J6 gulag and dispense justice at home. Of course, that would mean releasing the prisoners, but perhaps it would be a way to rescue them in a lawful and orderly way.

Posted by: Emmie at August 10, 2023 11:26 AM (Sf2cq)

141 Why support a party apparatus that never supported him?

Presumably because the winner of the primary is who the people wanted.
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Didn't work twice. Three times makes you a fool.

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 10, 2023 11:26 AM (2graF)

142 I seem to recall MANY high profile GOP leaders pledging not to support Trump if he were the nominee, and not facing consequences from the party.

You won't hear me defending them.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:26 AM (eOEVl)

143 Serious question because I heard some moron mention it:

Did Desantis make a public statement saying the 2020 election was clean?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:26 AM (NdB+W)

144 Besides, I’m not voting for whoever the Dems trot out next year anyway. If Trump gets the nomination, great. If DeSantis gets the nomination, great.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2023 11:26 AM (gVXz

No offense. But this is how we got where we are. This is how the GOP scams you.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:27 AM (x1k7+)

145 108 Why not? If the voters want to effectively decriminalize certain crimes, then why can't they? Same as if the legislature amended the criminal code. Yes, I get the legislative vs executive distinction. But there's an awful lot of grey area there when it comes to prosecutorial discretion.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2023 11:19 AM (iFTx/)
++++
Because her job is to follow the law. She didn't. She rejected things like mandatory minimum sentences and refused to prosecute crimes based on shit like race. It's illegal, and she got fired for it and rightly so.

If her constituents want the end of mandatory minimums, for example, they can try to do flip the state house and do that.

She should have been fired for the same reason that all of the accountable people in "sanctuary city" policies should have been arrested.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM (WkNQM)
__________

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2023 11:27 AM (iFTx/)

146 I really have zero doubt that if he doesnt get the nomination, he will do everything in his power to get Biden reelected.
Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:21 AM (9zh4W)

Shocked by this assessment from you.
Have you started up your time machine already?

Posted by: Brian Kemp at August 10, 2023 11:27 AM (53oGX)

147 If DeSantis did something beyond his powers as Governor should be easy to go to court and prove it. But it's easier to just do what Leftist commies do. Though in her case I'm expecting the race card to be displayed prominently.

Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2023 11:27 AM (RUOzb)

148 CBD, just finished The Judas Goat.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 11:24 AM (t/2Uw)

That's a fun one. I like it when Spenser gets shot in the ass!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2023 11:27 AM (2PzdM)

149 off GOPe Sock

Posted by: Inogame at August 10, 2023 11:27 AM (53oGX)

150 Even MSM forced to admit that Texas ploy of sending illegals to blue cities is working. However, they refuse to give any credit to Florida for doing the same.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM (t/2Uw)

Originally they screeched about DeSantis doing it also but it gave him a bump in the polls so they stopped.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 10, 2023 11:27 AM (z99Zw)

151 132 130 I can make a strong argument that Abbott is by far the strongest conservative Gov TX has ever had. In the past there when Democrats ruled it was easy for a Gov to be strong because they ruled through The Party, not through courts or state officers, who were all just rubber stamps.

Conservatives have never been able, and will never be able to institute that level of control.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2023 11:24 AM (i9ffA)

=======

I remember when he was definitely going to lose re-election because he shut down Texas.

That's how much of a non-issue bad governance over covid has become.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:25 AM (LvTSG)

Most people seem to want to laugh nervously and forget everything about the tyranny inflicted over COVID.

A few want COVID controls forever (forever-maskers)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2023 11:28 AM (xcxpd)

152 I think we need to vote more people into office who hated high school and do NOT want to see it perpetuated deep into adulthood, unlike the current crop of politicians everywhere.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2023 11:28 AM (gVXz8)

153 Today, they ask.
Tomorrow, they mandate.
Next week, they kill you and take your property.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:18 AM (WkNQM)

Yup. If nothing is done to stop this, then it's inevitable.

Remember: Communists don't believe in private property.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 10, 2023 11:28 AM (BdMk6)

154 Elections in and of themselves are not sacrosanct. It's just snoutcounting. We do it because it's a nicer alternative for succession than inheritance or murder, and it at least gives the appearance of the people being in command of their leadership class.

Being elected once is not a blank check to ride roughshod over the peasantry. We are not a democracy with elected dictators or tyrants. We are a constitutional republic.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2023 11:28 AM (9UlRk)

155 133
THIS. Trumps rivals are splitting the party, not Trump. If the election wasn't stolen, they should run. If it was, they shouldn't. Simple as that.

It's a primary, not a coronation.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:25 AM (eOEVl)

Ordinarily, I would agree. These are not ordinary times. If the election wasn't stolen, then Trump should step aside. If it wasn't stolen, we should not see any news about anything that happened in 2020, because it's no big deal; nothing to get worked up about. If it was stolen, however, that makes all the difference in the world.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2023 11:28 AM (/iWhV)

156 "He'll have to fight for it"?

He got got damned +74mil votes in the general! A historic amount.

It's just sabotage.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:28 AM (x1k7+)

157 Meanwhile the purity test continues apace over at the Treehouse. I love Sundance, but their blind hatred of DeSantis over there is the stuff of cults.

Posted by: SMFH at August 10, 2023 11:29 AM (vGZLX)

158 Here we are again. Trump v. DeSantis.

So, about the definition of “art”…

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 10, 2023 11:29 AM (xTRSc)

159 I don't want a loyalty oath to Trump.

I'm pretty sure he's the first president to have his private home raided after a successful coup, though. That should at least hold some influence on understanding what's going on and why it should be rejected.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:29 AM (NdB+W)

160 The problem with Soros DAs is that their tolerance of crime starts spilling over into adjacent counties.

Portland's county has a Soros DA, and the surrounding counties have normal DAs.

I've joked that there should be a big effort to educate criminals to make sure they know where the county lines are - it would benefit the criminals, and would benefit the suburban counties.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2023 11:29 AM (2tUFv)

161 "134
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:25 AM (NdB+W)"

Uh yeah all of that there.

Meanwhile people are arguing about voting not understanding we're roughly on par with Spain immediately prior to the extra spicy times.

Posted by: somedood at August 10, 2023 11:29 AM (uGpeQ)

162 Remember... this banana republic (in name only) is only one or two "election" cycles away from putting someone like this Florida DA in the White House. *biden's bad, but there are worse. Our elites will make sure to find it and punish us with it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2023 11:29 AM (Q4IgG)

163 158 Here we are again. Trump v. DeSantis.

So, about the definition of “art”…
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 10, 2023 11:29 AM (xTRSc)

========

The Dirty Dozen: art.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:30 AM (LvTSG)

164 Trump won't pledge to support the GOP nom, so likely won't be in the debate. Yup, we owe him. Excuse mongering for him in 3...2...1...

https://tinyurl.com/4pm2vm8z
Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:20 AM (eOEVl)

Remember when they had that pledge before? Remember when they DIDN'T adhere to it? Sure Trump could lie like the rest of them... would that make you happier?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 10, 2023 11:30 AM (z99Zw)

165 110 107 Good morning.
Even MSM forced to admit that Texas ploy of sending illegals to blue cities is working. However, they refuse to give any credit to Florida for doing the same.
Posted by: Sharon
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As an aside, 'asylum-seekers' in the UK being housed on a 'barge'. Not exactly a hulk, in fact, upscalish:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-dorset-66447487

[crosses fingers re margins]

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2023 11:30 AM (uQVw9)

166 I seem to recall MANY high profile GOP leaders pledging not to support Trump if he were the nominee, and not facing consequences from the party. Not sure why Trump owes the party anything in return...just the base and his supporters.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at August 10, 2023 11:25 AM (JCZqz)
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That's different. The pledge is from candidates. If you want Party support, you agree to support the Party's final candidate and try to get your supporters to vote for the other guy. And you do want their support, so you agree to it. This came up in 2016, too. And 2016 also showed how irrelevant it is because most of the ludicrous number of candidates that year didn't do it.

Ted Cruz, to his credit, was not one of them. He pounded pavement for Trump after losing the nomination. He is the only one of the candidates who did anything more than a desultory photo op after Trump won the nomination. The rest of the field not only reneged, they worked *against* the candidate. And none of them were punished in the slightest for violating their agreements. I was always lukewarm on Cruz (and frankly, I still am) but he went up several notches in my estimation when he did what he said he would do.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:30 AM (WkNQM)

167 If the election wasn't stolen, then Trump should step aside. If it wasn't stolen, we should not see any news about anything that happened in 2020, because it's no big deal; nothing to get worked up about. If it was stolen, however, that makes all the difference in the world.

Why? Maybe the voters prefer someone else this time. I owe Trump nothing. He should get the same opportunity to win the primary as anyone else. Nothing more.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:30 AM (eOEVl)

168 Does this purse full of bribe money make my ass look fat?

Posted by: Victoria Nuland at August 10, 2023 11:30 AM (cCxiu)

169 Did Desantis make a public statement saying the 2020 election was clean?
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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Nobody believes it was clean, but I still dont understand the jump from "stolen election" to why that means Trump has to be the nominee.

Trump side is also saying all of his people also had stolen elections in 2022. Even in Republican primaries.

I guess losing one more time with the charge of "stolen election" is worth something?

Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:31 AM (9zh4W)

170 I thought the Marxists are going after the Texas AG to get him off their trail?

In collusion with the TX RINOs. It's not entirely clear who's driving and who's along for the ride.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 10, 2023 11:31 AM (nfrXX)

171 130 I can make a strong argument that Abbott is by far the strongest conservative Gov TX has ever had. In the past there when Democrats ruled it was easy for a Gov to be strong because they ruled through The Party, not through courts or state officers, who were all just rubber stamps.

Conservatives have never been able, and will never be able to institute that level of control.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2023 11:24 AM (i9ffA)

=======

I remember when he was definitely going to lose re-election because he shut down Texas.

That's how much of a non-issue bad governance over covid has become.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:25 AM

There really wasn't much of a choice in the primary. I was going to vote for west in the primary but then he pulled the race card, he was literally the only other candidate that was even a half decent choice and he blew it quick.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 11:31 AM (QNSds)

172 163 158 Here we are again. Trump v. DeSantis.

So, about the definition of “art”…
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 10, 2023 11:29 AM (xTRSc)

========

The Dirty Dozen: art.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:30 AM (LvTSG)

Because Telly Savalas was so dreamy?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2023 11:31 AM (xcxpd)

173 I'm not taking any fucking loyalty oath. That's North Korea shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 10, 2023 11:31 AM (TZ75n)

174 If it was stolen, however, that makes all the difference in the world.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

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This is why I asked if Desantis really had come out and made a public statement saying that the 2020 election was on the up and up.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:31 AM (NdB+W)

175 Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:21 AM (x1k7+)

THIS. Trumps rivals are splitting the party, not Trump. If the election wasn't stolen, they should run. If it was, they shouldn't. Simple as that.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2023 11:23 AM (/iWhV)

I don't mind a real primary.
I don't think uncontested is the way to go and it doesn't make me feel bad that other people want a shot at the job.

What I don't like is the usual GOPe backstabbing after they don't get their "guy" in.

I mean Blago is convinced Trump will not back the GOP if he loses.. of couse ignoring the long line of GOP backstabbers that abandon the primary winners when it's not the "right kind" of republican.

Posted by: Inogame at August 10, 2023 11:31 AM (53oGX)

176 Emmie - simply put, no. That's why all of this has been done in DC - DC is a legal enclave exempt from the jurisdiction of any state and immune from any of the rights granted citizens by any of their State Constitutions.

The only way for any State to spring someone from a DC prison would be to put together an armed force and invade. That's why those people are stuck there. (And yes this was the whole reason it was orchestrated there)

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2023 11:31 AM (i9ffA)

177 I'm BACK!

[until next week!]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Welcome back !

Rickles to Sinatra (seated in the audience) "Make yourself at home Frank; HIT somebody !"

Posted by: JT at August 10, 2023 11:31 AM (T4tVD)

178 I really have zero doubt that if he doesnt get the nomination, he will do everything in his power to get Biden reelected.
Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:21 AM

What? Is this the same as DU saying the Green Party did everything they could to get Trump elected because they stole true lefty voters from Hillary by exposing her as a fake Leftist?

Trump will try to win the primary (and then the Presidency). If he feels wronged in the process, he'll lash out at the perceived injustice. He's not going to campaign for Biden or endorse him. He may run as a third party...but that's only because the Republican party is a fucked up failure of a joke, not because he wants Biden to win (and because Trump is a thin-skinned win at all costs kinda guy).

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 10, 2023 11:31 AM (JCZqz)

179 So when is Congress going to call Liz Chaney to testify why the J6 internal 'evidence' was destroyed? Do that and I might believe Trump supporting a nominee is something expected of him. Fuck the tards.

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 10, 2023 11:32 AM (2graF)

180 "160
I've joked that there should be a big effort to educate criminals to make sure they know where the county lines are - it would benefit the criminals, and would benefit the suburban counties.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2023 11:29 AM (2tUFv)"

Speaking of which, we have really struggled with family visiting from nice areas who want to go do tourist shit in nearby cities that hasn't been sane, or safe, in 20+ years. They simply can't comprehend what being run by a Soros city gov't means.

Less than a year and we are fuckin' outta here.

Posted by: somedood at August 10, 2023 11:32 AM (uGpeQ)

181 Remember when they had that pledge before? Remember when they DIDN'T adhere to it? Sure Trump could lie like the rest of them... would that make you happier?

I'm generally a happy guy, so probably not.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:32 AM (eOEVl)

182 Trump won't pledge to support the GOP nom, so likely won't be in the debate.

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“Why would I sign it?” Trump said in an interview on the conservative cable network Newsmax. “I can name three or four people that I wouldn’t support for president. So right there, there’s a problem.”

****************

If I was running for President I wouldn't sign it either. You want me to pledge to support ?

Pass.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 10, 2023 11:32 AM (VTu1l)

183 Did Desantis make a public statement saying the 2020 election was clean?
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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Nobody believes it was clean, but I still dont understand the jump from "stolen election" to why that means Trump has to be the nominee.

Trump side is also saying all of his people also had stolen elections in 2022. Even in Republican primaries.

I guess losing one more time with the charge of "stolen election" is worth something?
Posted by: Blago

-

Thanks.

Did Desantis make a public statement saying the 2020 election was clean?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:32 AM (NdB+W)

184 Why? Maybe the voters prefer someone else this time. I owe Trump nothing. He should get the same opportunity to win the primary as anyone else. Nothing more.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:30 AM (eOEVl)

You have zero evidence this is even theoretically possible. And there is massive evidence he is more popular.

And no evidence any of the others even have a shot at winning.

+74mil.votes means you get to run again in a republic. It just does. That is how it works.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:32 AM (x1k7+)

185 Trumps rivals are splitting the party, not Trump. If the election wasn't stolen, they should run. If it was, they shouldn't. Simple as that.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2023 11:23 AM (/iWhV)

That makes no sense. There is no divine right to the office of the presidency. It is four years later, Trump showed he managed the challenge to the steal very poorly, and he seems not to have learned much. Hell he supported McDaniels for RNC Chair even though she was the one ultimately responsible for failing to protect the integrity of the election.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2023 11:32 AM (2PzdM)

186
Serious question because I heard some moron mention it:

Did Desantis make a public statement saying the 2020 election was clean?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:26 AM

Some New York Times reporter reported it. Single source apparently. I have not seen that DeSantis has denied the report. As far as I'm concerned - living in one of the most fraudulent states - if he doesn't backtrack or deny saying it... he's out of consideration.

Posted by: Mike Six Pence at August 10, 2023 11:32 AM (enJYY)

187 31: they care too much about optics.

It would be nice if the GOP adopted the attitude succinctly written by Anthrax: “So I’m gonna say what I’m gonna say cuz I’m going to hell anyway”.

The government mouthpieces will never like the GOP, nor will the DC crowd, or blue urban enclaves. Just say “Fuck em” and proceed.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2023 11:32 AM (gVXz8)

188 172 Because Telly Savalas was so dreamy?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2023 11:31 AM (xcxpd)

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Pretty sure that's what the blonde lady was saying.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:32 AM (LvTSG)

189 No offense. But this is how we got where we are. This is how the GOP scams you.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:27 AM (x1k7+)

You keep saying that but your way is how we get racist idiots on the SC, abortion on demand, 2nd Amendment suppression, DOJ infiltration, etc etc etc.

If you're looking to burn down the country as fast as we can then I say you may have a point.

Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2023 11:33 AM (RUOzb)

190 Presumably because the winner of the primary is who the people wanted.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:24 AM (eOEVl)

And if it turns out they want Chris Christie, I wouldn't want to have blindly pledged to support that fat fuck either.

Posted by: spindrift at August 10, 2023 11:33 AM (FRu7m)

191 Trump was all in for Ronna McDanial and now doesn't want to follow the RNC rules.
Trump refuses to give up his childish name calling and his attacks on the Biden administration are all about how they are doing him wrong.
I want to hear him on a stage respond to policy questions so I can be assured he will accomplish those things not done the first time around because of his miserable record with appointments.
That being said, I will vote for the Republican nominee. I don't hear the Trump acolytes saying the same.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 11:33 AM (t/2Uw)

192 I think Trump, DeSantis, and Ramaswamy should make a pact to say fuck the GOP, pool their resources, and create their own party with their own primary where they can bash each other's heads in at will, and whoever emerges from that brushfire of awfulness gets to be the leader of the new party.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2023 11:33 AM (9UlRk)

193 The rest of the field not only reneged, they worked *against* the candidate. And none of them were punished in the slightest for violating their agreements. I was always lukewarm on Cruz (and frankly, I still am) but he went up several notches in my estimation when he did what he said he would do.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Yep. Backstabbers demand loyalty, now. Saint Felicia, pray for us.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 10, 2023 11:33 AM (kjOVp)

194 Does this purse full of bribe money make my ass look fat?
Posted by: Victoria Nuland at August 10, 2023 11:30 AM (cCxiu)

It's scarier than that - I'm sure Nuland is getting some ill-gotten money, but I think what she mostly wants is Power.

Pure Power.

"If You Want a Picture of the Future, Imagine a Boot Stamping on a Human Face – for Ever"

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2023 11:33 AM (2tUFv)

195 "162 Remember... this banana republic (in name only) is only one or two "election" cycles away from putting someone like this Florida DA in the White House. *biden's bad, but there are worse. Our elites will make sure to find it and punish us with it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2023 11:29 AM (Q4IgG)"

Remember, the Dems were going to stuff Garland on SCOTUS. What a vile piece of work that guy is. It practically telegraphs how a Hildebeast administration would have gone.

Posted by: somedood at August 10, 2023 11:34 AM (uGpeQ)

196 If I was running for President I wouldn't sign it either. You want me to pledge to support ?

Pass.
Posted by: The Unvaxxed
____

Something tells me if DeSantis or another Republican refused to support Trump as the nominee against Joe Biden, you'd have a meltdown.

FWIW, I think if Trump wins the primary, every Republican should back the winner. And vice versa.

Whether I will though is a different story.

Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:34 AM (9zh4W)

197 Serious question because I heard some moron mention it:

Did Desantis make a public statement saying the 2020 election was clean?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:26 AM (NdB+W)

Neo has good background on that. She has the expanded quote.

I have not seen a separate statement.

IMO, even though he did not say what people are massaging his words to say, he screwed up. If you actually want Trump's base support, you do not ever let those words cross your lips.

Posted by: Catherine at August 10, 2023 11:34 AM (ZSsrh)

198 173 I'm not taking any fucking loyalty oath. That's North Korea shit.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 10, 2023 11:31 AM

It's how we've (both parties) continued to get mediocrities in office (or as our primary losers) for the last several decades. Yes, Rombley, McCan't and the rest, I'm talking about you.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at August 10, 2023 11:35 AM (JCZqz)

199 Trump will try to win the primary (and then the Presidency). If he feels wronged in the process, he'll lash out at the perceived injustice.

************

Trump lashes out but is also able to bury the hatchet (like with Cruz). I can't see him not supporting DeSantis (or Vivek) if they won the primary.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 10, 2023 11:35 AM (VTu1l)

200 "If DeSantis really was a dictator, he's have removed that Soros bitch more kinetically."

The N Korea method would be useful. Just fire an artillery piece at them at point blank range.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 10, 2023 11:35 AM (VwHCD)

201 "153
Remember: Communists don't believe in private property.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 10, 2023 11:28 AM (BdMk6)"

And today's progs don't believe in communal ownership either. They believe in their ironclad right to rule at gunpoint and that's it, which if anything is even worse.

Posted by: somedood at August 10, 2023 11:35 AM (uGpeQ)

202 And if it turns out they want Chris Christie, I wouldn't want to have blindly pledged to support that fat fuck either.
Posted by: spindrift at August 10, 2023 11:33 AM (FRu7m

Then don't run as a Republican. That goes for all the candidates.

Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2023 11:36 AM (RUOzb)

203 I remember when he was definitely going to lose re-election because he shut down Texas.

That's how much of a non-issue bad governance over covid has become.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:25 AM (LvTSG)

The problem, of course, is that in the actual election there was an actual opponent. An opponent who would have embraced everything we hated about Abbott and then some.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 10, 2023 11:36 AM (z99Zw)

204 "If the Republican Party took this sort of stuff seriously and supported politicians who were willing to fight, our country would be in far better shape. Think what you will about DeSantis, but this is the way we are going to win."

Er - no. Trump made a phone call and got impeached for it. People demonstrated against the stolen election and got locked in the Garland Gulag for years (and Trump got impeached again). And the GOP was nowhere to be found.

Posted by: Mhandisi at August 10, 2023 11:36 AM (SKxfg)

205 FWIW, I think if Trump wins the primary, every Republican should back the winner. And vice versa.

******************

Sure, just like they did in 2016.

uuhhhhhh....

Trump owes them precisely nothing.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 10, 2023 11:36 AM (VTu1l)

206 I think Trump, DeSantis, and Ramaswamy should make a pact to say fuck the GOP, pool their resources, and create their own party with their own primary where they can bash each other's heads in at will, and whoever emerges from that brushfire of awfulness gets to be the leader of the new party.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2023 11:33 AM (9UlRk)

Mechanucally, rhe GOP scam and treachery has to be made overt before another party can replace it.

In the US parties end when they openly refuse to serve their putative voters.

Screwing DJT would be that. DJT leaving before then wouldn't be enough.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:36 AM (x1k7+)

207 Goodness! This is not who we are. We are the party of billionaire tax cuts and never ending cheap Central American labor for chicken processing plants. I say, good day to you, SIR!!
- GOPe

Posted by: Montec at August 10, 2023 11:36 AM (HS2SF)

208 That being said, I will vote for the Republican nominee. I don't hear the Trump acolytes saying the same.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
__

And you never will.

And I can understand a case to be made for Trump against DeSantis, but you cant convince me that DeSantis is not a rock ribbed conservative.

If Trumpers want to be Trump and Trump only, let's just admit its a cult of personality and has zero to do with ideology.

Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:36 AM (9zh4W)

209 I'm not taking any fucking loyalty oath. That's North Korea shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 10, 2023 11:31 AM (TZ75n)

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands.....

Posted by: Archer at August 10, 2023 11:36 AM (gmo/4)

210 Too bad DeSantis didn't bide his time and support Trump, including affirming the 2020 election was "stolen." Now he's completely alienated the entire MAGA base of the party and destroyed his political career. There is no coming back from stupid.

Posted by: Mike D'Virgilio at August 10, 2023 11:37 AM (UP8f9)

211 203 The problem, of course, is that in the actual election there was an actual opponent. An opponent who would have embraced everything we hated about Abbott and then some.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 10, 2023 11:36 AM (z99Zw)

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GO TEAM RED!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:37 AM (LvTSG)

212 An opponent who would have embraced everything we hated about Abbott and then some.

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Dumb and Dumber were the options

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 10, 2023 11:37 AM (VTu1l)

213 VERY interesting background on the origins of COVID at a COVID summit in Brussels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg2QGacVlnI

Posted by: Zeera , becoming ungovernable by choice at August 10, 2023 11:37 AM (6I2Cp)

214 I remember when he was definitely going to lose re-election because he shut down Texas.

That's how much of a non-issue bad governance over covid has become.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:25 AM (LvTSG)

Not all shut downs were equal. By a long shot.

Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2023 11:37 AM (RUOzb)

215 If I was running for President I wouldn't sign it either. You want me to pledge to support ?

Pass.
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 10, 2023 11:32 AM (VTu1l)
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There is a reason for it, and I understand why the Party does it, at least on paper.

When you're running - even during the primaries - the Party provides support services. Local organization, polling, law advice for navigating local regulations, etc. This is very expensive stuff, and they don't want to stuff their resources down a candidate that won't fall into line behind the eventual candidate because the Party wants to win the election regardless of who the candidate ends up being. So they dole out those resources with strings attached. The string is that you support the nominee and try to get *your* supporters to support the nominee if you lose.

That makes sense, except for how in 2016 it wasn't enforced in the slightest and the Party suddenly wasn't so worried about being conned out of millions of dollars worth of services by bad-faith actors.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:37 AM (WkNQM)

216 And if it turns out they want Chris Christie, I wouldn't want to have blindly pledged to support that fat fuck either.

Even he would be better than Biden, Kamala or Gavin.

I think Trump, DeSantis, and Ramaswamy should make a pact to say f*** the GOP, pool their resources, and create their own party with their own primary where they can bash each other's heads in at will, and whoever emerges from that brushfire of awfulness gets to be the leader of the new party.

Not a bad idea, but then they shouldn't run in the GOP primary.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:37 AM (eOEVl)

217 "189
If you're looking to burn down the country as fast as we can then I say you may have a point.
Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2023 11:33 AM (RUOzb)"

You say this like letting our opponents murder their own kids and then burning everything down is a bad thing

Posted by: somedood at August 10, 2023 11:38 AM (uGpeQ)

218 Yep. Backstabbers demand loyalty, now. Saint Felicia, pray for us.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 10, 2023 11:33 AM

I'm glad we're all in agreement. Vote Pence in your State's primary in 2024!!!

Posted by: Mike "Judas" Pence at August 10, 2023 11:38 AM (JCZqz)

219 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands.....

Posted by: Archer at August 10, 2023 11:36 AM (gmo/4)

Don't get me started on that shit....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2023 11:38 AM (9UlRk)

220 214 Not all shut downs were equal. By a long shot.
Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2023 11:37 AM (RUOzb)

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All shutdowns were bullshit tyranny.

But yes, there were different grades of the bullshit tyranny. "I was only a little tyrant."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:38 AM (LvTSG)

221
If Trumpers want to be Trump and Trump only, let's just admit its a cult of personality and has zero to do with ideology.
Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:36 AM (9zh4W)

Seconded.

Posted by: Montec at August 10, 2023 11:38 AM (HS2SF)

222 Posted by: Mhandisi at August 10, 2023 11:36 AM (SKxfg)

"If."

That's the most important part of what I wrote...don't ignore it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2023 11:38 AM (2PzdM)

223 I thought CBD was on vacay ?
Posted by: JT at August 10, 2023 11:16 AM (T4tVD)

He just can't quit us.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2023 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

224 Why should he work with a party that is primary-ing him after getting +74mil votes?

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:21 AM (x1k7+)

Where is the logic in demanding a man's support for an unknown?

Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2023 11:38 AM (cTCuP)

225 Ah, found it. Per the Guardian / NBC:

"Appearing on NBC, the Florida governor and nearest challenger to Trump for the nomination in 2024 was asked: “Yes or no – did Donald Trump lose the 2020 election?”

DeSantis said: “Whoever puts their hand on the Bible on 20 January every four years is the winner.”

His interviewer, Dasha Burns, said: “If you can’t give a yes or no on whether or not Trump lost –”

DeSantis said: “No, of course he lost!”

Burns said: “Trump lost the 2020 election?”

DeSantis said: “Of course! Joe Biden’s the president.”

Trump continues to lie that the 2020 election was decided by voter fraud..."

https://tinyurl.com/4udywdp2

(that last line by the reporter writing the piece is hilariously non-biased btw)

I'm going to say fence-straddling, but I'm afraid Pence-like lukewarm isn't going to have the appeal it traditionally has.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:39 AM (NdB+W)

226 174 If it was stolen, however, that makes all the difference in the world.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

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This is why I asked if Desantis really had come out and made a public statement saying that the 2020 election was on the up and up.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:31 AM (NdB+W)

This is from a NYP article from last Friday: https://is.gd/bgLwby

When I read the article, RDS is being very lawyerly in his assessment. On the surface, he says that the 2020 election was on the up-and-up. Digging into his words, however, he says that the arguments that Trump made were unsubstantiated without actually saying that the whole election was fair.

On the whole, not 100% happy with his response. At all. However, he is trying to be lawyerly about it.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2023 11:39 AM (/iWhV)

227 It's how we've (both parties) continued to get mediocrities in office (or as our primary losers) for the last several decades. Yes, Rombley, McCan't and the rest, I'm talking about you.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at August 10, 2023 11:35 AM (JCZqz)

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I will never "hold my nose" and vote for the supposed lesser of two evils again.

Posted by: Mhandisi at August 10, 2023 11:39 AM (SKxfg)

228 That makes sense, except for how in 2016 it wasn't enforced in the slightest and the Party suddenly wasn't so worried about being conned out of millions of dollars worth of services by bad-faith actors.

*************

Yep.

We're still in a GOP civil war until all the establishment RINOS get flushed out.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 10, 2023 11:39 AM (VTu1l)

229 Loyalty oaths are pure BS. Virtue signaling at its worst.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2023 11:40 AM (hv9bm)

230 Er - no. Trump made a phone call and got impeached for it. People demonstrated against the stolen election and got locked in the Garland Gulag for years (and Trump got impeached again). And the GOP was nowhere to be found.
Posted by: Mhandisi at August 10, 2023 11:36 AM

And we're doing everything we can to get Trump convicted and disqualified from office without being too obvious about it. The man is a threat to Democracy and Ukraine!!!!

Posted by: GOPe at August 10, 2023 11:40 AM (JCZqz)

231 This freckled redhead is pretty pleased with DeSantis shit-stomping local officials who are harming the state:
https://is.gd/KpbwE2

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:40 AM (WkNQM)

232 trying to be lawyerly about it.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2023 11:39 AM (/iWhV)

Tells you *everything* you need to know.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2023 11:40 AM (9xrzV)

233 Trump won't pledge to support the GOP nom, so likely won't be in the debate. Yup, we owe him. Excuse mongering for him in 3...2...1...

OK, I'll bite. If the GOP nominee is one of the multiplicity of RINO stooges who call J6 an 'insurrection' and insist that the 2020 election was perfectly legal, why should he pledge his support?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2023 11:41 AM (AW0uW)

234 On the whole, not 100% happy with his response. At all. However, he is trying to be lawyerly about it.

**************

Using weasel words to hedge both sides of the fence is not going to win over the base.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 10, 2023 11:41 AM (VTu1l)

235 Man I wish you guys thought like that in 2016. You almost crucified me for not bending the knee enough.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at August 10, 2023 11:41 AM (RUOzb)

236 We're still in a GOP civil war until all the establishment RINOS get flushed out.
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 10, 2023 11:39 AM (VTu1l)

I think they have the power to avoid being flushed. But they can't avoid being exposed as treacherous if they oppose the dude who got +74mil votes.

They can have the GOP w/DJT or they can end the GOP.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:41 AM (x1k7+)

237 Trump owes them precisely nothing.

True, but they also owe him nothing. They are free to set the rules of engagement in their own primary, and you are free to vote for him, whether or not he heads the ticket.

I want to hear what he has to say to RDS and Vivek.

The ones being screwed are the voters.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:41 AM (eOEVl)

238 231 This freckled redhead is pretty pleased with DeSantis shit-stomping local officials who are harming the state:
https://is.gd/KpbwE2
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:40 AM (WkNQM)

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Not enough freckles on face.

3/10

Would not bang.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:41 AM (LvTSG)

239 The only way for any State to spring someone from a DC prison would be to put together an armed force and invade. That's why those people are stuck there. (And yes this was the whole reason it was orchestrated there)
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2023 11:31 AM (i9ffA)

That's what I was afraid of. It just seems that the left is very resourceful about finding legal justification when they want to do something wicked. I wish the right could exercise similar ingenuity in order to do something righteous.

Posted by: Emmie at August 10, 2023 11:41 AM (Sf2cq)

240 The very suggestion that PDTS should agree to support the GOP nominee if he doesn't get the nomination is beyond stupid. But considering that it's coming from a party whose leadership at the national level, and in several key states did everything they could to sabotage him, it's nothing that should be unexpected.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 10, 2023 11:41 AM (YRsIm)

241 Supposedly Kim once made all of his party flunkies come out and fill a stadium, and the brought out a general he was mad at and in front them all had him shot with one of those 8 barreled 50 cal anti-aircraft machine guns.

After that I guess they all got tea and cookies.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2023 11:41 AM (i9ffA)

242 Presumably because the winner of the primary is who the people wanted.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:24 AM (eOEVl)

Biden is who the people wanted? Most votes of any candidate in history. Absolutely clean elections. Yeah, the reported results are totally unable to be questioned.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 10, 2023 11:41 AM (z99Zw)

243 Portland is closing one of the five city-owned parking garages downtown:

Rivera attributed the low occupancy to the fallout from the COVID-19 pandemic, which dealt a heavy blow to parking in downtown Portland. In 2019, average peak-hour occupancy of the Third and Alder parking garage was consistently higher than 90%. This year, rates have fallen to 29%, the bureau said.

That's where I usually used to park when I drove into downtown Portland.

I haven't been there in a number of years.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2023 11:41 AM (2tUFv)

244
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Not enough freckles on face.

3/10

Would not bang.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:41 AM (LvTSG)

Your wife is looking over your shoulder, isn't she.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2023 11:42 AM (Zz0t1)

245 Assuming an R wins the Presidency, I do hope one of their priorities is to get rid of the mandatory diversity training I now have to do...*sigh*

...might as well get it over with.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2023 11:42 AM (YIVH2)

246 221
If Trumpers want to be Trump and Trump only, let's just admit its a cult of personality and has zero to do with ideology.
Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:36 AM (9zh4W)

Seconded.
Posted by: Montec at August 10, 2023 11:38 AM (HS2SF)

I'm an OnlyTrumper. Please, someone tell me where 'ideology' differs from Trump's stated - and acted-upon - policies as POTUS.

I challenge anyone to tell me what DeSantis' 'ideology', for instance, is, and where it differs from Trump's. I'll tell you for sure that none of the other candidates - save Vivek - have one worth articulating.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2023 11:42 AM (/iWhV)

247 Serious question. How does organic fruits get listeria and get recalled?

I thought the whole point of organic was to not put anything on them. Latest are kiwi fruit from NZ.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2023 11:42 AM (DVsQD)

248 Sure, just like they did in 2016.

uuhhhhhh....

Trump owes them precisely nothing.
Posted by: The Unvaxxed

I'd say most backed him. Someone like Jeb Bush didn't, but that's hardly a surprise.

But Ted Cruz, Rubio, Rand Paul, Chris Christie, Ben Carson, etc did that ran against him.

Zero douby if Trump had lost the primary, he would have endorsed Hillary.

He did after all give money to her previous campaigns.

Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:42 AM (9zh4W)

249 186
Serious question because I heard some moron mention it:

Did Desantis make a public statement saying the 2020 election was clean?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:26 AM

The contention from the reporter is DeSantis said Trump lost the 2020 election. Which is a fact, b/c he's not the sitting president right now. How he lost was not in the coversation.

Posted by: Nova Local at August 10, 2023 11:42 AM (exHjb)

250 "Speaking of the Deep State, the World Bank just cut off all funding to Uganda because Uganda passed "anti-gay" legislation."

I look forward to Uganda's future success, now that they've gotten clown world to cut them loose from the tethers.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 10, 2023 11:42 AM (ou9hh)

251 208 That being said, I will vote for the Republican nominee. I don't hear the Trump acolytes saying the same.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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I ain't voting for another McCain/Romney. You go ahead and do that. I will be busy building some redoubts with good lines of fire.

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 10, 2023 11:42 AM (2graF)

252 CBD, just finished The Judas Goat.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 11:24 AM (t/2Uw)

That's a fun one. I like it when Spenser gets shot in the ass!
+++

That one would make a great movie with Spenser gallivanting all over Europe. Could be updated with Antifa or Just Stop Oil crazies. Favorite scene is Hawk arriving with sawed off shotgun with two extra cartridges in his mouth.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 11:42 AM (t/2Uw)

253 IMO, even though he did not say what people are massaging his words to say, he screwed up.

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Unfortunately there's no massaging there. Desantis had an opportunity to discuss the massive voter fraud that occured around the country and instead said "Trump lost"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:43 AM (NdB+W)

254 ... Rivera attributed the low occupancy to the fallout from the COVID-19 pandemic, which dealt a heavy blow to parking in downtown Portland. In 2019, average peak-hour occupancy of the Third and Alder parking garage was consistently higher than 90%. This year, rates have fallen to 29%, the bureau said. ...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2023 11:41 AM (2tUFv)
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Can't blame this on COVID. Sorry, but not anymore. That ship has sailed.

This is because your downtown has hollowed itself out because you turned your city into a shit hole.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:43 AM (WkNQM)

255 Trump should not be running as a Republican. Most of his cult don't consider themselves Republicans so why run under that banner.

Posted by: polynikes. at August 10, 2023 11:43 AM (RUOzb)

256 Supposedly Kim once made all of his party flunkies come out and fill a stadium, and the brought out a general he was mad at and in front them all had him shot with one of those 8 barreled 50 cal anti-aircraft machine guns.

After that I guess they all got tea and cookies.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2023 11:41 AM (i9ffA)

Mad flex.

If it happened, which it didn't. Just like executing the guy who saved his family over the painting of Dear Leader.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:43 AM (x1k7+)

257 Ah, yes, “lawyerly.” See Exhibit A: Clinton, Wilhelm von der Schlichmeister.

DeSantis can go JAG off with that shit.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 10, 2023 11:43 AM (xTRSc)

258 Serious question. How does organic fruits get listeria and get recalled?

I thought the whole point of organic was to not put anything on them.

There's pretty much nothing more organic than poop.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 10, 2023 11:44 AM (nfrXX)

259 Serious question because I heard some moron mention it:

Did Desantis make a public statement saying the 2020 election was clean?
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The contention from the reporter is DeSantis said Trump lost the 2020 election. Which is a fact, b/c he's not the sitting president right now. How he lost was not in the coversation.
Posted by: Nova Local

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Yeah, it's a shame he didn't seem to be quick enough on his feet to address the actual topic.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:44 AM (NdB+W)

260 I'm an OnlyTrumper. Please, someone tell me where 'ideology' differs from Trump's stated - and acted-upon - policies as POTUS.

Posted by: Darrell Harris

__

So if Trump dropped out, you still write his name on the ballot?

Does this last "forever"?

I honestly know that if Trump is the nominee and loses in 2024, he will run again in 2028.

He will run for President until he dies, he'll be this perpetual loser like Adlai Stevenson.

Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:44 AM (9zh4W)

261 231 This freckled redhead is pretty pleased with DeSantis shit-stomping local officials who are harming the state:
https://is.gd/KpbwE2
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:40 AM (WkNQM)

Is that a bit of ... Clementine in her hand.

Also, +1.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 10, 2023 11:44 AM (zZu0s)

262 The best moment in antifa history......

https://youtu.be/NBhH7o3IShA?t=8

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2023 11:45 AM (Zz0t1)

263 @226

>>On the whole, not 100% happy with his response. At all. However, he is trying to be lawyerly about it.

As has been noted, he's attempting to Triangulate something that cannot be Triangulated.

Again, there was no rationale for him running in 24 while Trump is the presumptive nominee.

But he allowed himself to dream big and let consultants run his Quixotic Campaign.

He will be out of politics in two years time with no heir apparent.

Hopefully whoever replaced him in Florida continues the work.

But history shows us what typically happens.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 10, 2023 11:45 AM (y8+t/)

264 That being said, I will vote for the Republican nominee. I don't hear the Trump acolytes saying the same.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 11:33 AM (t/2Uw)
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If the Republican nominee is someone I find tolerable, I will consider voting for him.

If not, then not. I do not owe the damned GOP my vote. I don't owe those bastards anything. If the nominee is Trump or DeSantis, I will probably vote for him. If it's Ramaswamy, I'll consider it - his history in Big Pharma and support for TPP troubles me. If it's someone yet unknown who has a good platform and strategy, then sure. Probably. If it's Christie or Pence or their ilk, then no. Fuck them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:45 AM (WkNQM)

265 Loyalty oaths are pure BS. Virtue signaling at its worst.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2023 11:40 AM (hv9bm)

Concur. Might as well have a "How Does My Ass Taste" oath while we're at it too.

You wanna get nuts, let's get nuts!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 10, 2023 11:45 AM (HTUD+)

266 Serious question. How does organic fruits get listeria and get recalled?

I thought the whole point of organic was to not put anything on them. Latest are kiwi fruit from NZ.
Posted by: rickb223
A lot of organic get fertilized with organics, you know, the kind that gets rejected after a body uses what it needs to live.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 11:45 AM (t/2Uw)

267 meh...that should've been at the 5 second mark.

Link fail.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2023 11:45 AM (Zz0t1)

268 The contention from the reporter is DeSantis said Trump lost the 2020 election. Which is a fact, b/c he's not the sitting president right now. How he lost was not in the coversation.
Posted by: Nova Local at August 10, 2023 11:42 AM (exHjb)

Lol. Ok. What is DeSantis'position re fraud then?

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:45 AM (x1k7+)

269 Because Telly Savalas was so dreamy?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2023 11:31 AM (xcxpd)

I don't normally swing that way, Jack, but who loves ya baby?

Posted by: Kojak at August 10, 2023 11:45 AM (zZu0s)

270 Maybe should have said ejected. Has a bit of bacteria.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 11:46 AM (t/2Uw)

271 still, one must question the wisdom of running this year, against this man Trump

esp when you consider Rob's age

why ?

when you can't seem to figure something out, follow the money

Posted by: REDACTED at August 10, 2023 11:46 AM (us2H3)

272 Trump secured the Disney and Bud Light vote with his support.

Posted by: polynikes. at August 10, 2023 11:46 AM (RUOzb)

273 250 "Speaking of the Deep State, the World Bank just cut off all funding to Uganda because Uganda passed "anti-gay" legislation."
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World Bank is another Regime Tool for Imperialism. Duh. I guess multiculturalism is a one way street?

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 10, 2023 11:46 AM (2graF)

274 deez nutz

Posted by: That guy who always says... at August 10, 2023 11:46 AM (Xrfse)

275 Next time, throw the system off by posting Phylum Porifera.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 10, 2023 11:11 AM

Ohhh, gettin' fancy with them biological names like that Duncanthrax feller does, eh?

Just remember, Big Spheniscidae does not approve!

Posted by: J. Random Commenter at August 10, 2023 11:46 AM (t5sJZ)

276 Trump should not be running as a Republican. Most of his cult don't consider themselves Republicans so why run under that banner.
Posted by: polynikes
___

I think we should just get it over with and let him run 3rd party. Sure, it means Biden wins again, but that will happen anyway if Trump is the nominee.

Trump is too lazy and cheap to get a real 3rd party off the ground. He'll quit once he knows he can't be President.

All he really cares about is the Oval Office for himself, he doesnt give a damn about anything else.

Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:46 AM (9zh4W)

277 266 Serious question. How does organic fruits get listeria and get recalled?

I thought the whole point of organic was to not put anything on them. Latest are kiwi fruit from NZ.
Posted by: rickb223
A lot of organic get fertilized with organics, you know, the kind that gets rejected after a body uses what it needs to live.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 11:45 AM (t/2Uw)

Listeria is almost always contamination from some sort of standing water source. Roof leaks or the like.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 10, 2023 11:47 AM (zZu0s)

278 "It was fuckin' straight-up stolen."

The only acceptable answer is the straight truth.

If a candidate doesn't speak the straight truth, they are unfit to be President. Plain and simple.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 10, 2023 11:47 AM (kjOVp)

279 As has been noted, he's attempting to Triangulate something that cannot be Triangulated.

Again, there was no rationale for him running in 24 while Trump is the presumptive nominee.

But he allowed himself to dream big and let consultants run his Quixotic Campaign.

He will be out of politics in two years time with no heir apparent.

--

That's the crappy part for me. I would've loved for him to have put all of his weight immediately behind Trump. "We know it was rigged, and we know how they did it! We know these agencies have to be reigned in! Let's get in there and fix this!"

You thought Trump won in a landslide last time? Imagine Trump / Desantis *already* campaigning together for 2024.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:47 AM (NdB+W)

280 264 I agree.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 11:47 AM (t/2Uw)

281 Instead of facing a heat-seeking missile launched by a Lockheed Martin F-22 at nearly 60,000 ft., the next airspace-violating Chinese spy balloon could be captured in flight, allowing its undamaged, intelligence-collecting payloads and stratospheric navigational technology to be inspected by U.S. analysts.

That is the goal of the newly advertised Capturing Aerial Payloads to Unleash Reliable Exploitation (Capture) project by DARPA. Instead of shooting down the next buoyant airspace intruder, DARPA wants to find a way to haul high-altitude balloons down safely from up to 75,000 ft.

Posted by: Jonathan Turley at August 10, 2023 11:48 AM (RHGPo)

282 The GOP is deliberately mudding the waters surrounding whether the 2020 "election" was stolen. It's pretty clear they are intent on dividing their own base and tanking any chance of reclaiming the White House. Mostly because they perceive Trump as the likely candidate. So they decide to lose. Again.

The left will install whoever they want in '24 with Trump coming in second. The GOP will be a distant third.

It a way, that might be a more satisfying outcome in the long run... a wholly diminished GOP.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2023 11:48 AM (Q4IgG)

283 The rest of the field not only reneged, they worked *against* the candidate. And none of them were punished in the slightest for violating their agreements. I was always lukewarm on Cruz (and frankly, I still am) but he went up several notches in my estimation when he did what he said he would do.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

cruz nearly lost his Senate seat to beto by refusing to honor his word on the "loyalty pledge" that he had made. He pi$$ed off a whole bunch of republican voters here in Texas by doing that including me. He should have blown robert francis o'rouke out of the water but he only managed to squeak out a win by 3% against a pathetically weak candidate.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 11:48 AM (QNSds)

284 265 Loyalty oaths are pure BS. Virtue signaling at its worst.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2023 11:40 AM (hv9bm)

Concur. Might as well have a "How Does My Ass Taste" oath while we're at it too.

You wanna get nuts, let's get nuts!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 10, 2023 11:45 AM (HTUD+)

'I promise to warn you' oaths.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 10, 2023 11:48 AM (zZu0s)

285 Meanwhile the purity test continues apace over at the Treehouse. I love Sundance, but their blind hatred of DeSantis over there is the stuff of cults.
Posted by: SMFH at August 10, 2023 11:29 AM (vGZLX)

It's the primary season. My candidate is as pure as the driven snow with the heart of a lion. All other candidates are devil-worshipping gutter scum.

Most of them will come to their senses when it's all over. Others will become Democrats.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 10, 2023 11:48 AM (z99Zw)

286 Lol. Ok. What is DeSantis'position re fraud then?

--

I'm AGAINST IT!!!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:48 AM (NdB+W)

287 deez nutz
Posted by: That guy who always says.

Bofa?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2023 11:48 AM (DVsQD)

288 If Trumpers want to be Trump and Trump only, let's just admit its a cult of personality and has zero to do with ideology.

*****************

I support Trump over DeSantis because as good a governor as Meatball has been, he's been a horrible presidential candidate. I would still vote for DeSantis or Vivek in the general but no one else.

That said, i don't agree with some of Trump's false attacks on DeSantis, and I don't agree with his sorta defending Disney on the basis that jobs would be lost (a casualty well worth the sacrifice in the woke wars).

But he's a proven brand who I hope has learned from his mistakes and would avoid picking people who would backstab him, as well as making good on his promise to go scorched earth in deporting illegals.

May not happen, but I sense a disgruntled, angry vengeful Trump the US govt tried to put in prison is not going to have fucks to give about optics or being politically pragmatic.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 10, 2023 11:48 AM (VTu1l)

289 On one hand, DeSantis governs like he knows what time it is. On the other hand, regarding Trump's kangaroo court prosecutions, he talks like a GOPe cuck.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 10, 2023 11:49 AM (g5mQR)

290 We'll have votes in a few states in about 5 months - then we can see whose support is real, and whose isn't...

I ignore all polls b/c they are just the Dem party trying to get us to lose again...

Posted by: Nova Local at August 10, 2023 11:49 AM (exHjb)

291 Big Hydrurga leptonyx says bring it.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 10, 2023 11:49 AM (xTRSc)

292 260 I'm an OnlyTrumper. Please, someone tell me where 'ideology' differs from Trump's stated - and acted-upon - policies as POTUS.

Posted by: Darrell Harris

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So if Trump dropped out, you still write his name on the ballot?

Does this last "forever"?

I honestly know that if Trump is the nominee and loses in 2024, he will run again in 2028.

He will run for President until he dies, he'll be this perpetual loser like Adlai Stevenson.
Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:44 AM (9zh4W)

Let me be very, very clear about this. The moment that there is a candidate that unapologetically promises to finish the job that Trump has started, that is the moment that I'll vote for someone other than Trump.

That candidate has not yet made an appearance in this campaign.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2023 11:49 AM (/iWhV)

293 cruz nearly lost his Senate seat to beto by refusing to honor his word on the "loyalty pledge" that he had made. He pi$$ed off a whole bunch of republican voters here in Texas by doing that including me. He should have blown robert francis o'rouke out of the water but he only managed to squeak out a win by 3% against a pathetically weak candidate.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 11:48 AM (QNSds)
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Even *I* got Cruz-sourced marketing to go vote for Trump in 2016, and I was in CO at the time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:49 AM (WkNQM)

294 I agree that DeSantis is a weak dictator.

He should have put polonium in your tea, lady.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 10, 2023 11:49 AM (0FoWg)

295 This freckled redhead is pretty pleased with DeSantis shit-stomping local officials who are harming the state:
https://is.gd/KpbwE2
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:40 AM (WkNQM)

She has good hair for a soul-less monster

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2023 11:49 AM (xcxpd)

296 Imagine Trump / Desantis *already* campaigning together for 2024.

They would automatically lose the electoral votes from Florida, since both are residents of Florida.

Posted by: Jonathan Turley at August 10, 2023 11:50 AM (RHGPo)

297 If RDS doesn’t become potus he will run for and win a senate seat in FL at some point.

I think it’s also interesting how the anti RDS crowd is crowing about the end of his political career as some kind of sick burn, while simultaneously talking about the need for term limits and the end of career politicians.

Posted by: Montec at August 10, 2023 11:50 AM (HS2SF)

298 the problem for meatball is he has kinda queered himself for 2028

stumbling out of the gate is not a good way to attract future backers

esp when the immediate attraction is to take down Trump, which will be gone in 2028

Posted by: REDACTED at August 10, 2023 11:50 AM (us2H3)

299 That is the goal of the newly advertised Capturing Aerial Payloads to Unleash Reliable Exploitation (Capture) project by DARPA. Instead of shooting down the next buoyant airspace intruder, DARPA wants to find a way to haul high-altitude balloons down safely from up to 75,000 ft.
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A C-130 could likely lasso it and drop the attached anchor for ground crews to be brought down to the ground. A jet would be too fast to pull this stunt.

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 10, 2023 11:50 AM (2graF)

300 255 Trump should not be running as a Republican. Most of his cult don't consider themselves Republicans so why run under that banner.
Posted by: polynikes. at August 10, 2023 11:43 AM

He certainly has a high percentage of support within the Republican party for someone who shouldn't run as a Republican. Maybe other Republican leaders should consider they don't really represent the base, and only get elected because of Team Red better than Team Blue voters?

Nah.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at August 10, 2023 11:50 AM (JCZqz)

301 But he's a proven brand who I hope has learned from his mistakes and would avoid picking people who would backstab him, as well as making good on his promise to go scorched earth in deporting illegals.

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Imagine a Trump with experience *and* a House and Senate with a few people that weren't trying to torpedo everything he did.

Never forget: The Republicans were in charge of the two years of Russia investigations before Ryan could give the House to the (D)s so they could start their impeachments.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:50 AM (NdB+W)

302 If not, then not. I do not owe the damned GOP my vote. I don't owe those bastards anything. If the nominee is Trump or DeSantis, I will probably vote for him. If it's Ramaswamy, I'll consider it - his history in Big Pharma and support for TPP troubles me. If it's someone yet unknown who has a good platform and strategy, then sure. Probably. If it's Christie or Pence or their ilk, then no. Fuck them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:45 AM (WkNQM)

I have to admit, I'm usually big on pulling the lever and cancelling out a commie's vote, but there is no frigging way on this planet I will ever pull the lever for christie or pence. Well, unless there is a platform, trap door, and rope involved.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 10, 2023 11:50 AM (VwHCD)

303 This freckled redhead is pretty pleased with DeSantis shit-stomping local officials who are harming the state:
https://is.gd/KpbwE2
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:40 AM

When was her last freckle census? Any takers?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 10, 2023 11:51 AM (a3Q+t)

304 Also, Organic foods usually suffer from shit like... well shit borne disease, like E. Coli or the like.

Listeria is something else. It is pretty rare- which is a good thing. It is nasty. But it is one reason food plants are monitored and if they are not shit, they test even standing water on the roof (or in drains) for stuff so that it can be treated and the roof checked for leaks regularly.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 10, 2023 11:51 AM (zZu0s)

305 293 cruz nearly lost his Senate seat to beto by refusing to honor his word on the "loyalty pledge" that he had made. He pi$$ed off a whole bunch of republican voters here in Texas by doing that including me. He should have blown robert francis o'rouke out of the water but he only managed to squeak out a win by 3% against a pathetically weak candidate.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 11:48 AM (QNSds)
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Even *I* got Cruz-sourced marketing to go vote for Trump in 2016, and I was in CO at the time.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:49 AM (WkNQM)

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I'm pretty sure Cruz performed so badly against Beto because the GOPe of Texas and the large portion of Republicans in the state are big government, go along to get along types who would be blue dog Democrats in a more amenable Democrat Party.

They're also still pissy at him because he beat their guy in 2014 in the primary.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:51 AM (LvTSG)

306 This is an outrage. Three years ago, I was elected by the people of the Ninth Judicial Circuit to lead this circuit and yes, to do things unconventionally, to do things differently. But I didn't hide, I didn't say I would do things and I wouldn't do them. I didn't say I wouldn't do things and not did them. I did exactly what I said I would do and that is what you want from an elected official," Worrell continued.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

He is who we thought he was!

Posted by: zombie Denny Greene at August 10, 2023 11:51 AM (p+neX)

307 It's the primary season. My candidate is as pure as the driven snow with the heart of a lion. All other candidates are devil-worshipping gutter scum.

Most of them will come to their senses when it's all over. Others will become Democrats.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 10, 2023 11:48 AM (z99Zw)

No. It is DJT got +74mil votes in his re-election bid why tf are ppl talking about a primary?

Can they not conceive of what the historical fact of getting +74mil votes means in a Republic?

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:51 AM (x1k7+)

308 The GOP is deliberately mudding the waters surrounding whether the 2020 "election" was stolen. It's pretty clear they are intent on dividing their own base and tanking any chance of reclaiming the White House. Mostly because they perceive Trump as the likely candidate. So they decide to lose. Again.

The left will install whoever they want in '24 with Trump coming in second. The GOP will be a distant third.

There it is. When Trump loses, and I expect he will if he's the nom, it will be the fault of someone else, not the OTers.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:52 AM (eOEVl)

309 I guess losing one more time with the charge of "stolen election" is worth something?
Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:31 AM (9zh4W)

Let's assume for a moment that the 2020 election was stolen. Now let's assume that the 2024 election WOULD be stolen from Trump but not from candidate X. What does that say to you?

Or, let's assume that candidate X would also have the election stolen. Are you happier that the part of the Washington Generals was played by someone else?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 10, 2023 11:52 AM (z99Zw)

310 They would automatically lose the electoral votes from Florida, since both are residents of Florida.
Posted by: Jonathan Turley

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I always enjoy this absurdity.

Somehow people making $45K/year can own two residences in different states, but not a billionaire that literally owns multiple properties in multiple states.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:52 AM (NdB+W)

311 They would automatically lose the electoral votes from Florida, since both are residents of Florida.
Posted by: Jonathan Turley at August 10, 2023 11:50 AM (RHGPo)

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Only one of them would. Theoretically trunp would win potus and Kamala would win vpotus (assuming the FL votes were the difference). Or Trump could rent an apartment in Alabama for a year and call that his residence.

Posted by: Montec at August 10, 2023 11:52 AM (HS2SF)

312 I think it’s also interesting how the anti RDS crowd is crowing about the end of his political career as some kind of sick burn, while simultaneously talking about the need for term limits and the end of career politicians.
Posted by: Montec at August 10, 2023 11:50 AM (HS2SF)
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I like DeSantis. I think he is the model for successful Republican governors. This is one reason that I didn't want him to run for president. The presidency is a false prize, and he's far more valuable staying in FL through his term and then starting an organization to show GOP state governors how to find their balls.

That said, I do favor term limits. I also favor other restrictions - like mandatory passive investment or third-party trustees. Some babies will be thrown out with the bathwater - but there are damn few babies and a whole bunch of turds in that bathwater.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:52 AM (WkNQM)

313 DeathSantis kills another communist Soros backed fake prosecutor.

That boy has done good again!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 10, 2023 11:52 AM (17s+e)

314 Extra "e" on my name there. Zombies don't type good.

Posted by: zombie Denny Green at August 10, 2023 11:52 AM (p+neX)

315 Mannix, good work. I need a snaggle tooth version next time. Also tall.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:52 AM (x1k7+)

316 She has good hair for a soul-less monster
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2023 11:49 AM (xcxpd)

I was going to make a comment on how it looked like it smelled nice, but... Damn you straight to hell, Biden!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 10, 2023 11:53 AM (zZu0s)

317 297 If RDS doesn’t become potus he will run for and win a senate seat in FL at some point.

as a dim ?

cuz he can't be the other two as republican

Posted by: REDACTED at August 10, 2023 11:53 AM (us2H3)

318 Now if there was only something that can legally be done to Soros to take him and his ilk out of the picture for good.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 10, 2023 11:53 AM (Oq/TM)

319 RNC does capture some good clips of meandering Biden, in tweets. This one borders on bizarre.

https://t.ly/ELvbE

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2023 11:53 AM (xhaoi)

320
Think what you will about DeSantis, but this is the way we are going to win.

This is also why the Dims are going hammer and tongs after the Supreme Court.

They would like to force Thomas or some others out if they can with BS charges.

The Democrats need the SC to force their unpopular, corrupt, illegal, and unAmerican agenda on the country under the guise of "law".

Posted by: naturalfake at August 10, 2023 11:53 AM (QzZeQ)

321 307 No. It is DJT got +74mil votes in his re-election bid why tf are ppl talking about a primary?

Can they not conceive of what the historical fact of getting +74mil votes means in a Republic?
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:51 AM (x1k7+)

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Meh.

Primaries are healthy. Trump will most likely win the primary, but just asking the voters to make a choice in a primary isn't bad.

If that's the level of support he has, then no primary should be a real problem for him, and if the polls (spit) are accurate, it seems like it's not.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:53 AM (LvTSG)

322 Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 11:48 AM (QNSds)

The loyalty oath is voided when you get personal with me about my family.

Posted by: polynikes. at August 10, 2023 11:53 AM (RUOzb)

323 his history in Big Pharma and support for TPP troubles me. If it's someone yet unknown who has a good platform and strategy, then sure. Probably. If it's Christie or Pence or their ilk, then no. Fuck them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix

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I really dont think anyone can be as closely associated with Big Pharma as Trump that did Operation Warpspeed, gave billions to these companies like Pfizer and even signed into a law that you can't sue the makers of the Covid vaccine for any complications down the road.

Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:53 AM (9zh4W)

324 I'm pretty sure Cruz performed so badly against Beto because the GOPe of Texas and the large portion of Republicans in the state are big government, go along to get along types who would be blue dog Democrats in a more amenable Democrat Party.

They're also still pissy at him because he beat their guy in 2014 in the primary.

See BS impeachment of Ken Paxton by "Republican House"

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 10, 2023 11:53 AM (CIS44)

325 You know who else uses lawyerly weasel language?

The rotten feces that inhabits and envelops both parties.

We are so thirsty for a person that just does normal expected shit that as soon as someone does some, we automatically assume he's The One and a FIGHTER.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2023 11:54 AM (9xrzV)

326 314 Extra "e" on my name there. Zombies don't type good.
Posted by: zombie Denny Green at August 10, 2023 11:52 AM (p+neX)

I miss Zombie. I hope they're ok.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2023 11:54 AM (xcxpd)

327 Don't ever sell republican voters short on their stoopidity.

All you need is a yearbook and some 30 year old sexual allegations and winner winner chicken dinner...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 10, 2023 11:54 AM (HTUD+)

328 Mannix, good work. I need a snaggle tooth version next time. Also tall.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:52 AM (x1k7+)
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She might be tall - no way to know.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:54 AM (WkNQM)

329 Let me be very, very clear about this. The moment that there is a candidate that unapologetically promises to finish the job that Trump has started, that is the moment that I'll vote for someone other than Trump.

That candidate has not yet made an appearance in this campaign.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

Ahem. This is why you have a primary. Is it possible some one else, someone with political experience, who knows how to select personnel that will follow his plan, might be able to accomplish more in a first term? Someone humble enough to realize he might need help. Someone who comes into office having mapped out what needs to be done.
How do you determine this? By having candidates stand on stage and takes questions and see how they respond with actual policy positions.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 11:55 AM (t/2Uw)

330 the problem for meatball is he has kinda queered himself for 2028

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Ehhhh voters have short attention spans. If anything the experience of running this time will help inform him on how to run a better campaign in the future. Worked for Reagan at least.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at August 10, 2023 11:55 AM (VTu1l)

331 308 There it is. When Trump loses, and I expect he will if he's the nom, it will be the fault of someone else, not the OTers.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:52 AM (eOEVl)

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It will be because the Republican Parties in MI, AZ (no, Lake is not the Party, the party hates her, obviously), GA, PA, and WI have all decided that actually fighting for election integrity is bad manners.

Detroit will still say there are 1000 ballots in a box with 10. AZ will still just shut down polling locations in red areas. GA will still just let election workers in Atlanta run through the same ballots hundreds of times. PA will still let Philly invent numbers out of thin air. WI will allow Madison to do the same thing because the GOP in those states decided that going along to get along was better than fighting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:55 AM (LvTSG)

332 302 If not, then not. I do not owe the damned GOP my vote. I don't owe those bastards anything. If the nominee is Trump or DeSantis, I will probably vote for him. If it's Ramaswamy, I'll consider it - his history in Big Pharma and support for TPP troubles me. If it's someone yet unknown who has a good platform and strategy, then sure. Probably. If it's Christie or Pence or their ilk, then no. Fuck them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:45 AM (WkNQM)

I have to admit, I'm usually big on pulling the lever and cancelling out a commie's vote, but there is no frigging way on this planet I will ever pull the lever for christie or pence. Well, unless there is a platform, trap door, and rope involved.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 10, 2023 11:50 AM (VwHCD)
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I will vote for the GOP nominee no matter who it is. It's not a matter of owing the GOP anything. The GOP can choke on my dick. I would vote for the GOP candidate solely because any of them, even the worst, are better than Joey Shitpants. I'd prefer Trump or RSD, of course. But this hypothetical is pointless. Trump is 99% going to be the nominee.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2023 11:55 AM (iFTx/)

333 You know who else uses lawyerly weasel language?

The rotten feces that inhabits and envelops both parties.

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Yep. That was one of the things that people loved about Trump. He would talk to anyone, anytime, about anything, and never needed to take four hours to figure out what he thought about it. He'd just tell you.

Turns out people understand sincerity and find it refreshing.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:55 AM (NdB+W)

334 Big Hydrurga leptonyx says bring it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 10, 2023 11:49 AM

If only they had more name recognition, that would lead to increased popular approval!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 10, 2023 11:55 AM (a3Q+t)

335 Primaries are healthy. Trump will most likely win the primary, but just asking the voters to make a choice in a primary isn't bad.

If that's the level of support he has, then no primary should be a real problem for him, and if the polls (spit) are accurate, it seems like it's not.

You would think that would be obvious.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:55 AM (eOEVl)

336 Meh.

Primaries are healthy. Trump will most likely win the primary, but just asking the voters to make a choice in a primary isn't bad.

If that's the level of support he has, then no primary should be a real problem for him, and if the polls (spit) are accurate, it seems like it's not.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:53 AM (LvTSG)

If the primary process was legit? Maybe. But it means DJT burns resources. It is a waste.

And obv the primary process in both parties is BS.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:55 AM (x1k7+)

337 The biggest point in Trump’s favor is that he is not, and never has been, a lawyer.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 10, 2023 11:56 AM (xTRSc)

338 Trump should have blocked the vaccine at every cut and turn. It's so obvious, it's almost the most retarded thing I've ever heard in my life.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2023 11:56 AM (9xrzV)

339 Can we stop saying Trunp has 74m “supporters”?Yes 74m voted for him. But 70m of those would have voted for a potato with an R next to it.

Posted by: Montec at August 10, 2023 11:56 AM (HS2SF)

340 Big Hydrurga leptonyx says bring it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 10, 2023 11:49 AM

If only they had more name recognition, that would lead to increased popular approval!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 10, 2023 11:55 AM (a3Q+t)

Why do I have Hydrox cookies in my head right now?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2023 11:56 AM (Zz0t1)

341 Let's assume for a moment that the 2020 election was stolen. Now let's assume that the 2024 election WOULD be stolen from Trump but not from candidate X. What does that say to you?
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It says that Deep State gets to veto the people's choice. Duh. That's why we are having this discussion. BTW, Deep State is owned lock, stock and barrel by the global oligarchs. Duh! A Republic if you can keep it.

Posted by: Pudinhead at August 10, 2023 11:56 AM (2graF)

342 Ahem. This is why you have a primary. Is it possible some one else, someone with political experience, who knows how to select personnel that will follow his plan, might be able to accomplish more in a first term? Someone humble enough to realize he might need help. Someone who comes into office having mapped out what needs to be done.
How do you determine this? By having candidates stand on stage and takes questions and see how they respond with actual policy positions.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)

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+1

The only problem then is figuring out how to win with 52M votes.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM (NdB+W)

343 294 I agree that DeSantis is a weak dictator.

He should have put polonium in your tea, lady.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 10, 2023 11:49 AM (0FoWg)

There are plenty of tourist helicopters buzzing around Orlando available for hire. Just sayin'...

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM (DTX3h)

344 I will vote for the GOP nominee no matter who it is. It's not a matter of owing the GOP anything. The GOP can choke on my dick. I would vote for the GOP candidate solely because any of them, even the worst, are better than Joey Shitpants. I'd prefer Trump or RSD, of course. But this hypothetical is pointless. Trump is 99% going to be the nominee.

And if he is, I'll vote for him.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM (eOEVl)

345 The GOP is deliberately mudding the waters surrounding whether the 2020 "election" was stolen. It's pretty clear they are intent on dividing their own base and tanking any chance of reclaiming the White House. Mostly because they perceive Trump as the likely candidate. So they decide to lose. Again.

I will never positively vote for a democrat. However, depending on the GOPe, I may not vote for the Republican.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM (DVsQD)

346 339 Can we stop saying Trunp has 74m “supporters”?Yes 74m voted for him. But 70m of those would have voted for a potato with an R next to it.
Posted by: Montec at August 10, 2023 11:56 AM (HS2SF)

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So, he gets 4 million more voters than a generic Republican?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM (LvTSG)

347 I will vote for the GOP nominee no matter who it is. It's not a matter of owing the GOP anything. The GOP can choke on my dick. I would vote for the GOP candidate solely because any of them, even the worst, are better than Joey Shitpants.
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This is zero slight on you but you do realize it's the Lifeblood of the GOP.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM (9xrzV)

348 He should have blown robert francis o'rouke out of the water but he only managed to squeak out a win by 3% against a pathetically weak candidate.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2023 11:48 AM

Being weak, socialist and effeminate is what makes him so dreamy...the Texas Trudeau.

Posted by: TX AWFL voters at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM (JCZqz)

349 Cruz is an unlikable Bushie, he will always struggle

plus he often uneven as a politician, an ailment contracted in DC

Posted by: REDACTED at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM (us2H3)

350 I will vote for the GOP nominee no matter who it is. It's not a matter of owing the GOP anything. The GOP can choke on my dick. I would vote for the GOP candidate solely because any of them, even the worst, are better than Joey Shitpants. I'd prefer Trump or RSD, of course. But this hypothetical is pointless. Trump is 99% going to be the nominee.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2023 11:55 AM (iFTx/)

Ths GOP betrays you by offering only and intentionally candidates that hate you and work against your interests.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM (x1k7+)

351 339 Can we stop saying Trunp has 74m “supporters”?Yes 74m voted for him. But 70m of those would have voted for a potato with an R next to it.
Posted by: Montec at August 10, 2023 11:56 AM (HS2SF)

Tanned, rested and ready!

Posted by: Mitt 'The Bitch' Romney at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM (zZu0s)

352 The GOP is the Fake Vagina of national politics.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM (9xrzV)

353 That being said, I will vote for the Republican nominee. I don't hear the Trump acolytes saying the same.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 11:33 AM (t/2Uw)
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If the Republican nominee is someone I find tolerable, I will consider voting for him.

If not, then not. I do not owe the damned GOP my vote. I don't owe those bastards anything. If the nominee is Trump or DeSantis, I will probably vote for him. If it's Ramaswamy, I'll consider it - his history in Big Pharma and support for TPP troubles me. If it's someone yet unknown who has a good platform and strategy, then sure. Probably. If it's Christie or Pence or their ilk, then no. Fuck them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:45 AM (WkNQM)

this, especially after the insane number of GOPe types who actively campaigned AGAINST small c conservative types when they didn't win the primary.

the GOP can piss up a rope...

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM (nXhwP)

354 It will be because the Republican Parties in MI, AZ (no, Lake is not the Party, the party hates her, obviously), GA, PA, and WI have all decided that actually fighting for election integrity is bad manners.

Detroit will still say there are 1000 ballots in a box with 10. AZ will still just shut down polling locations in red areas. GA will still just let election workers in Atlanta run through the same ballots hundreds of times. PA will still let Philly invent numbers out of thin air. WI will allow Madison to do the same thing because the GOP in those states decided that going along to get along was better than fighting.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at August 10, 2023 11:55 AM (LvTSG)
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This. So very much this. So sadly this. So infuriatingly this. But this regardless.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM (iFTx/)

355 All you need is a yearbook and some 30 year old sexual allegations and winner winner chicken dinner...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 10, 2023 11:54 AM (HTUD+)

Works pretty good.

But, failing that, you can always use the Party apparatus to canvass black neighborhoods and register people to vote in the GOP primary, telling them that the popular challenger to your political machine plans to somehow overturn the VRA and legally disenfranchise blacks.

Any port in a storm, amirite?

Posted by: Mitch at August 10, 2023 11:58 AM (0FoWg)

356 Dems aren't afraid of using power; they relish it. After all, you need to crack a few eggs to make an omlet.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2023 11:58 AM (ynpvh)

357 187 31: they care too much about optics.

It would be nice if the GOP adopted the attitude succinctly written by Anthrax: “So I’m gonna say what I’m gonna say cuz I’m going to hell anyway”.

The government mouthpieces will never like the GOP, nor will the DC crowd, or blue urban enclaves. Just say “Fuck em” and proceed.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2023 11:32 AM (gVXz

This brings me to a "State of Euphoria"

Posted by: Caught in a Mosh at August 10, 2023 11:58 AM (53oGX)

358 This freckled redhead is pretty pleased with DeSantis shit-stomping local officials who are harming the state:
https://is.gd/KpbwE2
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2023 11:40 AM

When was her last freckle census? Any takers?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 10, 2023 11:51 AM (a3Q+t)

Playing Connect the Dots is gonna be epic!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2023 11:58 AM (hv9bm)

359 All he really cares about is the Oval Office for himself, he doesnt give a damn about anything else.

Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:46 AM (9zh4W)

Seriously. Are you even reading what you're writing? The guy has been sued by every useful idiot, is being indicted by every DA tool in the Uniparty, and anyone with an axe to grind or a claim to stake is looking to do anything to take him down personally and/or politically. Yet despite all of that, he's campaigning to be the Preznit because all he cares about is the the Oval Office.

OK friend, whatever makes you sleep better at night.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 10, 2023 11:58 AM (YRsIm)

360 349 Cruz is an unlikable Bushie, he will always struggle

plus he often uneven as a politician, an ailment contracted in DC
Posted by: REDACTED at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM (us2H3)

Uneven is a good word for it. He can be awesome (remember the duke player tweet?) And then stone headed. I wonder how much of what we like (or dislike) about him is his media team.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 10, 2023 11:59 AM (zZu0s)

361 But 70m of those would have voted for a potato with an R next to it.
Posted by: Montec at August 10, 2023 11:56 AM (HS2SF)

Contra-factual BS. Facially absurd.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:59 AM (x1k7+)

362 So, he gets 4 million more voters than a generic Republican?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

We can call this Votes Over Replacement Candidate VORC, someone start a 538esque blog

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 10, 2023 11:59 AM (CIS44)

363 That is an important part of this. It's not DeSantis alone in a sea. He's got a lot of backup.

DeSantis' "backup" in this case is the Florida Constitution. Meaning every governor has always had this power.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2023 11:59 AM (2ocoG)

364 346 339 Can we stop saying Trunp has 74m “supporters”?Yes 74m voted for him. But 70m of those would have voted for a potato with an R next to it.
Posted by: Montec at August 10, 2023 11:56 AM (HS2SF)

so Mutt's not even a tater

got 60 million in 2012

Posted by: REDACTED at August 10, 2023 11:59 AM (us2H3)

365 Everything's looking black.

Posted by: Eromero at August 10, 2023 11:59 AM (z3WCn)

366 Can we stop saying Trunp has 74m “supporters”?Yes 74m voted for him. But 70m of those would have voted for a potato with an R next to it.
--

Food prices have doubled since 2021.

Goods and services are up 150-200%. Cars are still mostly unavailable. Loaner cars are completely booked out for months if you need a car worked on. The economy is absolute crap. Full time jobs are shedding hundreds of thousands in a way that hasn't occurred since the government literally shut businesses down for a cold virus, except now they're insisting it's the best economy ever.

I bet 74M is too low a number.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 12:00 PM (NdB+W)

367 With the Dems, it's not about legitimate powers or overreach, it's about whether they want something done or whether they really don't want something done.

Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2023 12:00 PM (krQz2)

368 350 I will vote for the GOP nominee no matter who it is. It's not a matter of owing the GOP anything. The GOP can choke on my dick. I would vote for the GOP candidate solely because any of them, even the worst, are better than Joey Shitpants. I'd prefer Trump or RSD, of course. But this hypothetical is pointless. Trump is 99% going to be the nominee.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2023 11:55 AM (iFTx/)

Ths GOP betrays you by offering only and intentionally candidates that hate you and work against your interests.
Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM (x1k7+)
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Maybe. But any GOP candidate will work less against my interests than any Dumocrap. Besides, I'm a straight, affluent, white, conservative male in a deep blue city. Everyone is working against my interests.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2023 12:00 PM (iFTx/)

369 I'm usually big on pulling the lever and cancelling out a commie's vote, but there is no frigging way on this planet I will ever pull the lever for christie or pence. Well, unless there is a platform, trap door, and rope involved.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 10, 2023 11:50 AM (VwHCD)

I still think cancelling out a Commie vote is more important. I loathe Trump and have since the early 80's but I still pulled the lever for him twice. You're fortunate though that I don't think you have to worry about either of those two.

Posted by: polynikes. at August 10, 2023 12:00 PM (RUOzb)

370 Everything's looking black.

Posted by: Eromero at August 10, 2023 11:59 AM (z3WCn)

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This isn't the Art Thread.

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Posted by: ShainS -- Chief 'Misinformation' Researcher at AoSHQ at August 10, 2023 12:00 PM (6VKyY)

371 the GOP can piss up a rope...

I think that sentiment is universal here. We owe the GOP nothing except a quick kick in the nuts.

HOWEVER, the candidates who want my vote must have a way of telling me what they will do. The primary does that. The GOP is merely a platform, a mechanism. Provide a better one, and they can go hang.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2023 12:00 PM (eOEVl)

372 Zebra posted this above.

You need to see it.

Be prepared for your hair to catch fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg2QGacVlnI

Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2023 12:00 PM (cTCuP)

373 I'm pretty sure Cruz performed so badly against Beto because the GOPe of Texas and the large portion of Republicans in the state are big government, go along to get along types who would be blue dog Democrats in a more amenable Democrat Party.

Posted by: BruceWayne

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Let's just be honest, the guy is very unlikable. Even though he's been solid, he's just one of those people.

He's like a Ben Shapiro.

People underestimate the power of that in politics.

Trump won 2016 because deep down, everyone knew Hillary was a raging bitch. It came down to like .1% in the Rust Belt. Had Biden been the nominee in 2016, he wold have won. He's not likable, but he's not as intolerable.

Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 12:00 PM (9zh4W)

374 Can we stop saying Trunp has 74m “supporters”?Yes 74m voted for him. But 70m of those would have voted for a potato with an R next to it.
Posted by: Montec

Then why didn't those 70m vote for someone else instead of allowing Trump to win the Primary?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2023 12:00 PM (DVsQD)

375 361 But 70m of those would have voted for a potato with an R next to it.
Posted by: Montec at August 10, 2023 11:56 AM (HS2SF)

Contra-factual BS. Facially absurd.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 11:59 AM (x1k7+)

70m+ votes counted for a dem vegetable...
Note, I said counted, not cast.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2023 12:01 PM (ynpvh)

376 "I thought the whole point of organic was to not put anything on them. Latest are kiwi fruit from NZ.
Posted by: rickb223
A lot of organic get fertilized with organics, you know, the kind that gets rejected after a body uses what it needs to live."

And this is why you always always wash your fruit before eating it.

Also, you never know if the person who harvested it bothered to go to the little field-hand's room and wash his own hands after he was done.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 10, 2023 12:01 PM (ou9hh)

377 DeSantis is also doing great things for Florida university education, along with Chris Rufo (via Powerline).

https://cutt.ly/twfEvGcv

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2023 12:01 PM (xhaoi)

378 Trump 4million VORC

Tim Scott 0 VORC

Mitten -70million VORC

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 10, 2023 12:01 PM (CIS44)

379 Maybe. But any GOP candidate will work less against my interests than any Dumocrap.
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Dunno they did pretty good going step for step with Democrats against Trump and everything they promised us for decades.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2023 12:01 PM (9xrzV)

380 Let's just be honest, the guy is very unlikable. Even though he's been solid, he's just one of those people.

He's like a Ben Shapiro.
Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 12:00 PM (9zh4W)

Too far, I think. Shapiro is a piece of shit with a sister who has a nice rack.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 10, 2023 12:02 PM (zZu0s)

381 347 I will vote for the GOP nominee no matter who it is. It's not a matter of owing the GOP anything. The GOP can choke on my dick. I would vote for the GOP candidate solely because any of them, even the worst, are better than Joey Shitpants.
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This is zero slight on you but you do realize it's the Lifeblood of the GOP.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM

I felt like the top poster for a long time...any Republican was better than any Dem. At least a brief reprieve from the march of Leftism...right?

Trump in 2015-2016 made me really reevaluate that. Both Bushes, and the failed candidates in between (Dole, Romney, McCain)....they're going in the same direction of the Dems. Bigger government, more power at the federal level, more global military involvement, more control of people's lives. The details may change around the edges, but the ultimate march is still to the centralized, powerful federal government. Fuck that.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at August 10, 2023 12:02 PM (JCZqz)

382 That being said, I will vote for the Republican nominee. I don't hear the Trump acolytes saying the same.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 11:33 AM (t/2Uw)

I've seen more than one in this thread alone that said they will vote for the nominee.
Do you not see because you aren't actually looking?

Posted by: Caught in a Mosh at August 10, 2023 12:02 PM (53oGX)

383 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 10, 2023 12:02 PM (zZu0s)

384 Maybe. But any GOP candidate will work less against my interests than any Dumocrap. Besides, I'm a straight, affluent, white, conservative male in a deep blue city. Everyone is working against my interests.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2023 12:00 PM (iFTx/)

False assumption. GoP logic trap.

Different bad does not equal less bad.

And the std model GOP is 90% DEM and 10% diff evil.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 10, 2023 12:02 PM (x1k7+)

385 Can we stop saying Trunp has 74m “supporters”?

Yeah, that's very old data.

Posted by: t-bird at August 10, 2023 12:02 PM (amJF4)

386 380 Let's just be honest, the guy is very unlikable. Even though he's been solid, he's just one of those people.

He's like a Ben Shapiro.
Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 12:00 PM (9zh4W)

Too far, I think. Shapiro is a piece of shit with a sister who has a nice rack.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 10, 2023 12:02 PM (zZu0s)

Sounds like you'd like to play pool with her, using you pool cue...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2023 12:03 PM (ynpvh)

387 Although I just had an image of eddie munster with a homeric rack.

*shudder*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 10, 2023 12:03 PM (zZu0s)

388 I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of voters in Texas remembered Cruz rejecting Americans and standing with the Chamber of Commerce when Trump was trying so hard to secure the border all by himself, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 12:03 PM (NdB+W)

389 I voted for McCain and Romney. Both votes seemed like a good idea at the time' dammit.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 10, 2023 12:03 PM (g5mQR)

390
I miss Zombie. I hope they're ok.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2023 11:54 AM

I go back two decades of reading Zombie and he/she has revealed some of his/her personal life in that time. I think he/she still comments here under a different nic. Not often, but on certain issues. I respect his/her choice to go silent under his/her former identity.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 10, 2023 12:03 PM (enJYY)

391 382
Some are, some aren't. I respect their point of view. Just expect them to respect mine.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 12:03 PM (t/2Uw)

392 Ahem. This is why you have a primary. Is it possible some one else, someone with political experience, who knows how to select personnel that will follow his plan, might be able to accomplish more in a first term? Someone humble enough to realize he might need help. Someone who comes into office having mapped out what needs to be done.
How do you determine this? By having candidates stand on stage and takes questions and see how they respond with actual policy positions.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 11:55 AM (t/2Uw)

A primary won't determine this.

Someone has to stand up - yesterday - and say that they have lined up the personnel that will march behind them and fight the Deep State. The work should have been done the day after Election Day 2020, but it has not. Trump couldn't, because no competent Stater was brave enough to work for him. The RNC hasn't, because RNC. DeSantis hasn't, because he's busy running a state.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2023 12:03 PM (/iWhV)

393
The GOP is the Fake Vagina of national politics.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM (9xrzV)

The GOP is composed of colon and dead fish skin.

Yeah, that seems about right.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 10, 2023 12:03 PM (QzZeQ)

394 Can we stop saying Trunp has 74m “supporters”?Yes 74m voted for him. But 70m of those would have voted for a potato with an R next to it.

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And Trump brought an even bigger number out against him.

Of all the reasons to vote for Trump again, the absolute dumbest may be reciting the losing score that was less than his opponents.

For the record, I do think "stealing" happened, but I 100% believe Trump lost the popular vote, just like he did in 2016.

Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 12:03 PM (9zh4W)

395 noood FBI Wray

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2023 12:03 PM (xcxpd)

396 It totally illustrates the Democrats as the Party of Will-to-Power, because the only legitimate function of any office is to do what they want done--and to refrain from doing what they do not want done.

This is how "our democracy" runs.

Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2023 12:04 PM (krQz2)

397 Trump won in a landslide.

It's why five states simultaneously shut down counting across time zones.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 12:04 PM (NdB+W)

398 75 DeSantis is a good guy. He’s just not worthy of the Presidency before President Trump.
No fn’way.
Posted by: Keezen at August 10, 2023 11:15 AM (XTpg5)

What sold you on Trump? Those super-tough "Law and Order" tweets during the 2020 riots or Operation Warpspeed?

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 10, 2023 12:05 PM (zM/pI)

399 381 347 I will vote for the GOP nominee no matter who it is. It's not a matter of owing the GOP anything. The GOP can choke on my dick. I would vote for the GOP candidate solely because any of them, even the worst, are better than Joey Shitpants.
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This is zero slight on you but you do realize it's the Lifeblood of the GOP.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2023 11:57 AM

I felt like the top poster for a long time...any Republican was better than any Dem. At least a brief reprieve from the march of Leftism...right?

Trump in 2015-2016 made me really reevaluate that. The details may change around the edges, but the ultimate march is still to the centralized, powerful federal government. Fuck that.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at August 10, 2023 12:02 PM (JCZqz)
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And you're going to stop the ultimate march by . . . allowing hard-left commie stooges to easily win elections and thereby pump NOS into the march? I don't get this sentiment. Even cruddy GOP candidates are better than Dumocrap ones. If you think President Pence would do exactly the same as President Deep Throat Harris, then I don't know what to tell ya.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2023 12:06 PM (iFTx/)

400 A C-130 could likely lasso it and drop the attached anchor for ground crews to be brought down to the ground. A jet would be too fast to pull this stunt.
Posted by: Pudinhead at August 10, 2023 11:50 AM (2graF)

Shoot the balloon envelope full of holes with machine guns. it will lose enough gas to start falling. When it gets below about 10,000 feet have helicopters snag the balloon with grappling hooks, and lower it to the ground.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2023 12:06 PM (iQkDx)

401 Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 10, 2023 11:59 AM (zZu0s)

Uneven means he doesn't agree with you ( not you specifically) . Cruz may not agree with me 100% but where we disagree he always has a well thought out reason for his position and willing to hear your side. His position on subsidies in Iowa against his interests is when I knew Cruz stood on principle. Also Cruz easily could be twice as wealthy now if he chose a career in the private sector.

Posted by: polynikes. at August 10, 2023 12:06 PM (RUOzb)

402 Zero douby if Trump had lost the primary, he would have endorsed Hillary.

He did after all give money to her previous campaigns.
Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 11:42 AM (9zh4W)

More claims without evidence,

Posted by: Inogame at August 10, 2023 12:08 PM (53oGX)

403 Wray was "aghast". I think that it order to give it real verisimilitude he should have said that he was also, "shocked" and "appalled". LOL. What a liar!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2023 12:08 PM (Keyt1)

404 " they test even standing water on the roof (or in drains) for stuff so that it can be treated and the roof checked for leaks regularly."

Y'know, they wouldn't have so much standing water on the roofs if they'd stop building flat ones.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 10, 2023 12:09 PM (ou9hh)

405 wouldn't be surprised if a lot of voters in Texas remembered Cruz rejecting Americans and standing with the Chamber of Commerce when Trump was trying so hard to secure the border all by himself, too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 12:03 PM (NdB+W)

Where do you come up with that stuff? Unbelievable.

Posted by: polynikes. at August 10, 2023 12:10 PM (RUOzb)

406 It's why five states simultaneously shut down counting across time zones.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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Every election, states start counting through Election night. This is another silly thing that gets thrown around.

It was the biggest mail in vote ever and since Trump told his people not to mail in their vote, it was overwhelmingly Democrat ballots.

Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 12:10 PM (9zh4W)

407 Final thought:
Why are people so afraid to hear from DeSantis? What harm could it do for Trump to sharpen his campaign rhetoric ahead of the actual election? Why shouldn't we hear what he would do differently? This is what a primary does. At this time in 2015, Trump was at the bottom of the pack. It was the primary that made the difference. I changed my mind even though Cruz was my first choice.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 10, 2023 12:10 PM (t/2Uw)

408 296 Imagine Trump / Desantis *already* campaigning together for 2024.

They would automatically lose the electoral votes from Florida, since both are residents of Florida.
Posted by: Jonathan Turley at August 10, 2023 11:50 AM (RHGPo)

False
See Bush/Cheny
Trump would just change residency.

Posted by: Inogame at August 10, 2023 12:10 PM (53oGX)

409 More claims without evidence,
Posted by: Inogame at August 10, 2023 12:08 PM (53oGX)

Like the evidence the Trump team provided about the stolen election.

Posted by: polynikes. at August 10, 2023 12:11 PM (RUOzb)

410 We have an illegal junta who's State Security forces are literally out murdering Unpeople and manufacturing evidence for show trials against their opposition, while wrapping themselves in a flag that far better men have died for and squawking about Rights and Justice... and the people who claim to represent our faction against these devils are pissing about with loyalty oaths and ticky tack bullshit mean girl sniping, gawping and whining at the edge of the table for scraps from the Master's supper.

The person who deserves to lead us isn't within ten zip codes of national prominence yet.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2023 12:12 PM (9UlRk)

411 More claims without evidence,
Posted by: Inogame

Trump 100% did give money to Hillary Clinton and even the famous Clinton Foundation.

So did Trump Jr.

https://tinyurl.com/k4st8yde

Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2023 12:12 PM (9zh4W)

412 I think the deep state wants to make elections so chaotic and untrustworthy that the majority of the population will accept that elections are bad and should be discontinued.

They've already made deep inroads towards eliminating the electoral college.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 10, 2023 12:13 PM (BdMk6)

413 wouldn't be surprised if a lot of voters in Texas remembered Cruz rejecting Americans and standing with the Chamber of Commerce when Trump was trying so hard to secure the border all by himself, too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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Where do you come up with that stuff? Unbelievable.
Posted by: polynikes.

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Do you really not know about it? Yikes.

""There is no doubt we have an emergency at the border, which is exacerbated and perpetuated by congressional Democrats who refuse to close loopholes in our law that are resulting in a massive influx of illegal immigration," a Cruz spokesperson told Blaze Media in a statement. "The answer, however, is not imposing tariffs against Mexico."

https://tinyurl.com/ydavehpb

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at August 10, 2023 12:15 PM (NdB+W)

414 "Flummoxed" would have been a nice sort of old fashioned sounding word as well. How could this have happened in such a pristine and patriotic group as the FBI?!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2023 12:20 PM (Keyt1)

415 It was the biggest mail in vote ever and since Trump told his people not to mail in their vote, it was overwhelmingly Democrat ballots.

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Yep. Especially the hundred thousand or so mail ballots that showed up with no postmark, 2 weeks after the election, in PA. And any effort to take even a cursory look at these ballots were met with extreme hostility.

Posted by: Right Reverend Messy Jackson at August 10, 2023 12:21 PM (HKn8U)

416 Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2023 12:06 PM (iFTx/)

The GOP is working hand in glove with the commies to give them the illusion of legitimacy!

When people see things for what they are they might just wake up

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2023 12:24 PM (9xrzV)

417 I checked the name-- Monique is always a tell without mentioning any other information

Posted by: paulnjax at August 10, 2023 01:41 PM (O1n6R)

418 Hook, line and sinker.

Posted by: DOYLE at August 10, 2023 02:25 PM (Z8Yh2)

419 Are you referring to the same Desantis that set up Nazi-like Covid checkpoints and watched as a pastor was arrested for having church services? Only to come along after the fact and change things up when there was enough outrage?

The same Desantis who hasn’t done anything about the Capital Police setting up shop in our backyard.

Seems like Desantis only does things like fire this attorney when it’s convenient for him and his dwindling poll numbers.

Posted by: Bret at August 10, 2023 09:54 PM (VelXf)

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