The <i>White House</i> Demanded That FaceBook Censor Posts About Vanccines and a Post by America's Most Prominent Journalist and Commentator, Tucker Carlson

The White House Demanded That FaceBook Censor Posts About Vanccines and a Post by America's Most Prominent Journalist and Commentator, Tucker Carlson

There is no First Amendment. The Democrats have repealed it.

President Biden's White House aides pressured Facebook to censor a COVID-19 vaccine meme and a post by Tucker Carlson, according to files released Thursday by the House Judiciary Committee.
The world's largest social media platform pushed back and expressed concern about curbing free speech, but ultimately reduced the reach of Carlson's post by 50%, according to back-channel communications released by Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan (R-Ohio).
In an April 2021 email, Nick Clegg, Facebook's president for global affairs, wrote to colleagues that Andy Slavitt, a senior adviser to Biden who was steering COVID-19 policy, "was outraged -- not too strong a word to describe his reaction -- that [Facebook] did not remove this post."
The post was a meme shared by a user named Timothy McComas that featured actor Leonardo DiCaprio's character from the film "Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood" pointing at his TV with a beer and cigarette in hand.
The image was captioned: "10 years from now you will be watching TV and hear.... 'Did you or a loved one take the covid vaccine? You may be entitled...'"
Clegg wrote that he "countered that removing content like that would represent a significant incursion into traditional boundaries of free expression in the US," but failed to persuade Slavitt, who noted it had been shared 385,000 times.
The White House official "replied that the post was directly comparing Covid vaccines to asbestos poisoning in a way which demonstrably inhibits confidence in Covid vaccines amongst those the Biden Administration is trying to reach," in Clegg's words.
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That same month, a Facebook employee whose name was not released by Jordan wrote to CEO Mark Zuckerberg and COO Sheryl Sandberg: "We are facing continued pressure from external stakeholders, including the [Biden] White House" to remove posts criticizing COVID-19 vaccines.

"Stakeholders." The Democrat White House has "stakeholder" rights to determine which Americans may speak and which may not.

Jordan wrote that the company "panicked" and agreed to take some action.
Facebook vice president for public policy Brian Rice wrote the same month that Slavitt's pressure seemed "very much like a crossroads for us with the [Biden] White House in these early days."

"Given what is at stake here, it would also be a good idea if we could regroup and take stock of where we are in our relations with the [White House], and our internal methods too," an unidentified Facebook employee replied, signing "N" -- seeming to indicate the writer was Clegg.
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The pressure continued to mount on Facebook to remove posts after April 2021 -- with Biden saying that July that social media networks were "killing people" by allowing alleged misinformation to circulate.
An internal Aug. 2, 2021, Facebook email said the company's leadership "asked Misinfo Policy ... to brainstorm some additional policy levers we can pull to be more aggressive against ... misinformation. This is stemming from the continued criticism of our approach from the [Biden] administration."
White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre defended the Biden administration's actions Thursday, saying "we have promoted responsible actions to protect public health, safety and security when confronted by challenges like a deadly pandemic and foreign attacks on our elections."

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Sauer[a state AG pressing the lawsuit against the Biden Administration] said evidence indicates that Flaherty led the pressure campaign and that "virtually everything that I can recall here was lawful First Amendment-protected speech that was being targeted."
"The characterization of them as suggestions is contradicted by overwhelming evidence," Sauer said. "To call Mr. Flaherty's communication 'suggestions' is akin to saying that the Earth is flat or the moon is made of green cheese."

Just jawboning, noted Regime Cvck David French says. The government has free speech rights that trump citizen rights to free speech, even though citizens' rights to free speech are protected by the First Amendment and government's "free speech rights" are not mentioned at all.

This explains David French's shift: An overwhelming majority of his fellow Democrats now say that the government should punish free speech that goes against the religious dogmas of the Democrat Church of Satan.

Democrats now say, by a 2 1/2 to 1 ratio, that the government should censor speech the left disapproves of rather than uphold the right to free speech.

Blacklists are back and the Democrats have got 'em: A poll released this week by the Pew Research Center has starkly revealed the dark oppressive mentality that now dominates supporters of the Democratic Party, and makes possible the enthusiasm for blacklisting and censorship by its leadership.
The graph to the right shows the big take-away from the poll, as indicated by the arrows and the red box. Democrats now favor censorship by 70 to 28 percent, a major rise since 2018, when their attitude towards free speech was almost identical to Republicans. Since then, while Republican support for the First Amendment and freedom has remained largely stable and strong, Democrats have almost entirely abandoned these American ideals. As Pew notes:

There was virtually no difference between the parties in 2018, but the share of Democrats who support government intervention has grown from 40% in 2018 to 70% in 2023, while the share of Republicans who hold this view hasn't changed much.
There is a similar gap between the shares of Democrats and Republicans who say technology companies should restrict false information online. A large majority of Democrats and Democratic leaners (81%) support technology companies taking such steps, while about half of Republicans (48%) say the same. The share of Democrats who support technology companies taking these steps has also increased steadily since 2018.
These partisan gaps persist when it comes to restricting extremely violent content online. Democrats are more likely than Republicans to say that the U.S. government (71% vs. 48%, respectively) and tech companies (83% vs. 61%) should take steps to restrict violent content online even if it limits freedom of information.

Related: Mark Hemingway writes about his own experience with censorship -- specifically, the FaceBook funded censorship company "NewsGuard" which demands conservatives censor their reportage and commentary, or else face blackouts and "throttling" by Facebook.

NewsGuard decided to "fact-check" the Federalist's statement that "The IRS is hiring an army of new agents to audit citizens."

Well, how big is an "army"?, NewsGuard's censor wanted to know, quibbling over what number of new agents would factually constitute an "army," as opposed, I guess, to a "division" or "brigade."

In America, we have the First Amendment and have long prided ourselves on having a free press, but the reality is that it's becoming harder and harder to exist as an independent publication on the internet. One major reason for this is that lots of bad actors are trying to weaponize concerns over "misinformation." While misinformation is a problem, in practice the attempts to police it are often wholly incompetent and even more damaging than the alleged misinformation being addressed. Above all else the goal is to keep people from saying things that undermine the authority of America's obviously foundering left-leaning institutions.
Anyway, The Federalist recently got an email from "NewsGuard Technologies" -- a relatively new service that's popped up in the last few years that purports to rate websites on their credibility based on some established criteria. It then sells its ratings services to schools, various corporate entities, and advertisers looking for someone to tell them what news outlets they can supposedly trust or what websites they don't want to advertise on for fear of damaging their brand.
So how does NewsGuard go about making those ratings for websites? Well, it starts with firing off a series of hostile questions to the editors of a website about weirdly specific aspects of its coverage and demands you answer them in a vain attempt to improve whatever rating NewsGuard's going to give you. Now it's bad enough that this is an extortion racket, but it's downright insulting to see NewsGuard's team wheel around a website that publishes over a million words a year, cherry-pick some example of what they think is problematic coverage, and still demonstrate an inability to think critically or fairly about what they're reading. If it questions a dominant narrative, it does not compute with these people. Anyway, let's take a look at what we're dealing with.

My name is Chiara Vercellone and I'm an analyst at NewsGuard Technologies, a service that reviews news and information websites based on a set of credibility criteria, and monitors misinformation trends online.
I am reaching out because we are in the process of updating our analysis of TheFederalist.com and I have a few questions about the content published on the site. I am also attaching our currently-published analysis of The Federalist for your reference.
Just for reference, Vercellone apparently has a graduate degree in journalism from Northwestern, which generally vies with Columbia for the best journalism program in the country. Previously, she worked as a "fact checker" for USA Today. I used to work at a publication that, like USA Today, was also a participant in Facebook's fact-checking program. Facebook funds the fact-checking programs at these publications, even though these same publications are often required to cover Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg objectively in their news pages despite being financially compromised by this.
Facebook/Meta then brags that when a "fact checker" it helps pay for rates a story as false, it uses that rating to downrank and kill 80 percent of the internet traffic to that story. That's what it says in its own corporate communications. Given how often we've seen Facebook-funded fact-checkers produce politically distorted nonsense, the power given to these people ought to be alarming.
Vercellone and everyone else involved in these rackets have convinced themselves they're performing a valuable public service fighting "misinformation" that nearly always conveniently aligns with ideological priors, but I'm not sure they've had anyone be blunt: Between her time as a "fact checker" and her new gig at NewsGuard, Vercellone is a censor pure and simple. The business model she's participating in is to make a profit by narrowing the range of acceptable opinions.
Anyway, keep all that in mind when we delve into the quality of analysis that she expects The Federalist to respond to. She gets right into it.
For instance, we recently found some articles that further false or misleading information. For example, this article repeated claims that the IRS was hiring "a new army of IRS agents that will be used to audit middle-class Americans." However, the Inflation Reduction Act roughly allocated $80 billion to the IRS over 10 years, and most of the new hires would fill customer service and technology roles -- not IRS agent positions.
OK, so the Inflation Reduction Act allocated $80 billion to the IRS, and $45 billion of that was specifically allocated for tax enforcement, including "litigation," "criminal investigations," "investigative technology," and "digital asset monitoring." The IRS has pledged to use that money to hire 87,000 new people. Most of the money is going to tax enforcement, so why wouldn't most of the hires being made be related to tax enforcement in some way? Is it just that we're hung up on the precise definition of "agent" in this context? Fine, we'll assume the IRS is going to hire some agents specifically for auditing. What number specifically constitutes an "army," which last I checked, does not have a precise numerical definition?
Let's say they hire 10,000 agents for auditing and the remaining 77,000 are IT and answering phones. Well, 10,000 people is enough for an infantry division ... is that comparable to an "army"? It's even dumber than that sounds because the original Federalist article NewsGuard is singling out specifically linked to another article about how the IRS is currently advertising for jobs that require IRS agents to be "[carrying] a firearm and [being] willing to use deadly force, if necessary" when it referenced an "army" of IRS agents. The IRS currently employs more than 2,000 people that carry firearms. Is that an "army"? By the way, there are more armed federal bureaucrats now than U.S. Marines -- is THAT fair to compare to an army? Or is NewsGuard engaged in a really stupid semantic debate?
What happened was this: Republicans were opposed to Democrats' Inflation Reduction Act, and one of the criticisms they leveled was against its provision beefing up tax enforcement, which is politically unpopular. Republican leader Kevin McCarthy went out and said, "Democrats in Washington plan to hire an army of 87,000 IRS agents so they can audit more Americans like you." Fearing that this criticism might resonate with the public, "fact checkers" immediately sprung into action and tried to establish a counter-narrative quibbling with McCarthy's use of the word "agents." (See here, here, here, here, etc.) Note that The Federalist article being singled out by NewsGuard did not specify how many agents were being hired or make a specific numerical claim related to the bill like McCarthy did. It just said that an "army" of agents was being hired.

The Democrats launched an information operation to attack criticism of Biden's expansion of the IRS, and so the "fact-checkers" set about to forcing conservative websites to also participate in this information operation.

And remember, NewsGuard is funded by FaceBook to satisfy White House, DOJ, FBI, etc. demands that they be "responsible" in what speech they allow and forbid.

More about this ordeal of "non-partisan fact-checking" at the link.

Posted by: Ace at 02:00 PM

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1 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:01 PM (Zz0t1)

2 !

Posted by: wth at July 28, 2023 02:01 PM (v0R5T)

3 We're greys, man. We're grays.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:01 PM (Zz0t1)

4 BOLD statements, Ace.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:01 PM (Zz0t1)

5 /plants flag

Posted by: Brother Tim sez at July 28, 2023 02:01 PM (tjZop)

6 crap

Posted by: wth at July 28, 2023 02:02 PM (v0R5T)

7 Dang it.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez at July 28, 2023 02:02 PM (tjZop)

8 *kicks back*

*smokes cigar*

*swirls brandy*

Posted by: Lamont The REAL Big Dummy at July 28, 2023 02:02 PM (Zz0t1)

9 Sponge, nailing it!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 28, 2023 02:02 PM (Wnv9h)

10 Just build your own Internet, reichwingers!

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at July 28, 2023 02:03 PM (ppBhU)

11 It's just jawboning, Ace.

Does the government not have first Amendment rights that supersede the people's?

What are you? A communist?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at July 28, 2023 02:03 PM (LvTSG)

12 yeah

Posted by: John Fetterman at July 28, 2023 02:04 PM (5hfjS)

13 All the media is now Chip Diller from Animal House when it comes to the Biden family AND administration.

"ALL IS WELL!!!!!" *flailing hands and arms hysterically*

Posted by: Lamont The REAL Big Dummy at July 28, 2023 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)

14 Well, how big is an "army"?, NewsGuard's censor wanted to know, quibbling over what number of new agents would factually constitute an "army," as opposed, I guess, to a "division" or "brigade."

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This is the same stupidity as arguing over Pluto being a planet.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at July 28, 2023 02:04 PM (LvTSG)

15 Isn't censoring Farcebook the FBI's job??

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at July 28, 2023 02:04 PM (krqg6)

16 Crap.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)

17 The libs feel that way because they have been taught to keep their mouths shut in school and parrot back what the instructors tell them to say.

Self-censoring has led to fed-censoring approval.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 28, 2023 02:04 PM (zoXTr)

18 I don't even know what Free Speech is supposed to mean anymore. Must be part of that Living Constitution.

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:04 PM (3j4i9)

19 More than 1 in three GOPers/GOPleaners want government censorship?!? Fuck's sake.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at July 28, 2023 02:05 PM (ppBhU)

20 Sponge, nailing it!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 28, 2023 02:02 PM (Wnv9h)

Treatin' them threads like da bitches dey are......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:05 PM (Zz0t1)

21 What's a vanccine ?

Posted by: JT at July 28, 2023 02:05 PM (T4tVD)

22 Repeat Hordesourcing:

Horde, I sense a potential opportunity.

I just got a text from North Carolina Voting Project, asking me if I'm registered yet.

Question: How can I take advantage in such a way as to maximize the wasting of resources by these fraudbrokers? I want to watch the burn cash instead of steal votes.

Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2023 02:05 PM (ywVDE)

23 Democrats much more supportive of censorship of false information online.

" the share of Democrats who support government intervention has grown from 40% in 2018 to 70% in 2023"

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Shame there's not a name for that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 28, 2023 02:05 PM (rGOL6)

24 Fear of being willowed kept me from commenting on the last thread before refreshing.

I came close to voluntarily getting a clot shot early in 2021. Luckily my stubborn and cynical side kicked up because of how hard the FNM was pushing for it; and then Biden pushed me to a hard NOPE with his unconstitutional mandate for gub'mint contractors.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 28, 2023 02:05 PM (3cGpq)

25 Clegg wrote that he "countered that removing content like that would represent a significant incursion into traditional boundaries of free expression in the US," but failed to persuade Slavitt, who noted it had been shared 385,000 times.
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So he could have told Slavitt to pound sand and come back with a legal justification and a lawful order.

But he didn't. He just meekly capitulated and did what he was told because of course he did. Facebook can't risk a smear campaign by the state, can it?

What a bunch of bastards. Across the board.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:06 PM (t0OGg)

26 22 I just got a text from North Carolina Voting Project, asking me if I'm registered yet.

Question: How can I take advantage in such a way as to maximize the wasting of resources by these fraudbrokers? I want to watch the burn cash instead of steal votes.
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2023 02:05 PM (ywVDE)

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Asking them for help. Repeatedly, politely, and with earnest desire to help the Progressive cause.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at July 28, 2023 02:06 PM (LvTSG)

27 87,000 isn't an Army?

Sure pal.

Posted by: garrett at July 28, 2023 02:06 PM (aoF75)

28 You're not free to knowingly lie to coerce someone else into acting the way you want. That's not Free Speech. That's Fraud.

So... I'm in.

And the first thing we do is dismantle the entire "news" apparatus.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 28, 2023 02:06 PM (9UlRk)

29 "We're all in this together."

"Psst! Censor that guy!"

Posted by: Axeman at July 28, 2023 02:06 PM (krQz2)

30 How many divisions does the IRS have?

Posted by: The Other Uncle Joe at July 28, 2023 02:06 PM (ywVDE)

31 Someone asked for an ass.
Couldn't find a Mace, but got a Boebert:

https://images.app.goo.gl/jdrKrmuEMt7E81pD7

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 28, 2023 02:06 PM (ufFY8)

32 27 87,000 isn't an Army?

Sure pal.
Posted by: garrett at July 28, 2023 02:06 PM (aoF75)

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87,001 is, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at July 28, 2023 02:06 PM (LvTSG)

33 The First Amendment? That's just an idea.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 28, 2023 02:07 PM (iFTx/)

34 Remember when Democrats gave black people the Freedom to use their own specially labeled Blacks Only water fountain? This freedom stuff is great.

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:07 PM (3j4i9)

35 An internal Aug. 2, 2021, Facebook email said the company's leadership "asked Misinfo Policy ... to brainstorm some additional policy levers we can pull to be more aggressive against ... misinformation. This is stemming from the continued criticism of our approach from the [Biden] administration."
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The law was on the company's side.

Which shows you how much faith they have in the law. Keep in mind that they also, generally, know a lot more than most people about how things *really* work.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:07 PM (t0OGg)

36 87,000 armed legbreakers coming to make sure you pay your protection fees.

Posted by: XTC at July 28, 2023 02:07 PM (UnA8+)

37 Alex Berenson specifically named Slavitt in his lawsuit against the White House re: Twitter censorship.

Posted by: kallisto at July 28, 2023 02:07 PM (dCxaZ)

38 The First Amendment only applies to credentialed journalists. Everyone knows that.

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:07 PM (3j4i9)

39 White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre defended the Biden administration's actions Thursday, saying "we have promoted responsible actions to protect public health, safety and security when confronted by challenges like a deadly pandemic and foreign attacks on our elections."
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Ahh. So long as it was *responsible,* I guess there's no problem.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:07 PM (t0OGg)

40 OK. Notice how the question is even posed and posted. Should the government be able to censor false information. Well who decides that? Isn't that convenient.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:08 PM (GwxCX)

41 "Democrats have become much more supportive of Republicans for having the government remove false information from the internet"

Except the information they want removed isn't false...and they know it.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:08 PM (lc5cP)

42 I pray Tucker has good security.

Posted by: Eromero at July 28, 2023 02:08 PM (z3WCn)

43 White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre defended the Biden administration's actions Thursday, saying "we have promoted responsible actions to protect public health, safety and security when confronted by challenges like a deadly pandemic and foreign attacks on our elections."
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Alternate MopTop:

"We have promoted censorship, tax audits and jail for Americans whose speech we dislike and, n a few very limited instances, we killed them. All for their own good."

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 28, 2023 02:08 PM (LIO78)

44 Will history properly remember those that instigated this evolution of censorship?

Mao would blush.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 28, 2023 02:08 PM (G0bXQ)

45 So perhaps if the Soviets had the facebook, they would still be fat and pretty in the Kremlin.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 28, 2023 02:08 PM (JvZF+)

46 11 It's just jawboning, Ace.

Does the government not have first Amendment rights that supersede the people's?

What are you? A communist?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Governments have no 'rights'--they have powers. That is why any judge that declares the Government has the 'right' to censor should be flogged and removed from office and imprisoned.

Stating it correctly as government has the power to limit speech and expression is more correct but unconstitutional under the 1st is why our ruling class lies, subverts, and perverts language continuously on almost every subject.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:08 PM (9hLLz)

47 Viciously OT but willowed

I guess the new Barbie starts with a nod to 2001 with little girls discovering a giant Barbie and then....

violently smashing up babies (dolls) in slow motion?

At some point you figure you hit bedrock, but nope the Left always manage to go lower.

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:08 PM (3j4i9)

48 Combine two divisions of IRS agents to make a corps after you discover Military Science.

After discovering Nationalism, combine three divisions to make an Army.

So sayeth Civilization VI.

Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2023 02:09 PM (ywVDE)

49 What's a vanccine ?

One of Miklos's girlfriends.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at July 28, 2023 02:09 PM (ppBhU)

50 Note the left using the government to censor and imprison conservatives will continue until the right does it back to them.

"But that's not who we are!" says the GOPe...so here we are.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:09 PM (lc5cP)

51 Did French Dip actually say that the government has free speech rights?

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:09 PM (GwxCX)

52 The graph to the right shows the big take-away from the poll, as indicated by the arrows and the red box. Democrats now favor censorship by 70 to 28 percent, a major rise since 2018, when their attitude towards free speech was almost identical to Republicans. Since then, while Republican support for the First Amendment and freedom has remained largely stable and strong, Democrats have almost entirely abandoned these American ideals.
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Of course. The world has shifted since 2018. The Left won. They openly subverted everything and just took over. They did it publicly. They're relishing in it. The masks are off. They don't have to pretend anymore, and those who support the ruling power know it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:09 PM (t0OGg)

53 40 OK. Notice how the question is even posed and posted. Should the government be able to censor false information. Well who decides that? Isn't that convenient.
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:08 PM (GwxCX)

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"Communism is a failed ideology that always ends up leading to centralized power centers run by insiders who use their power to oppress everyone outside of it in order to cement their power for as long as possible."

"This is false. Communism just hasn't been done right yet. When it's done right, it leads to utopia."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at July 28, 2023 02:09 PM (LvTSG)

54 I came close to voluntarily getting a clot shot early in 2021. Luckily my stubborn and cynical side kicked up because of how hard the FNM was pushing for it; and then Biden pushed me to a hard NOPE with his unconstitutional mandate for gub'mint contractors.

Posted by: PaleRider
________________________________

I-uh, uh-I-uh,, got the-uh,, g-g-got the-uh, the-uh shot, d-d-didn't hurt-uh, hurt-uh me

yeah

Posted by: John Fetterman at July 28, 2023 02:09 PM (5hfjS)

55 Viciously OT but willowed

I guess the new Barbie starts with a nod to 2001 with little girls discovering a giant Barbie and then....

violently smashing up babies (dolls) in slow motion?

At some point you figure you hit bedrock, but nope the Left always manage to go lower.
Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:08 PM (3j4i9)

Daughter saw it last night. Said she loved it and thought it was great.

I looked at her and said "it's anti-man feminist clap-trap garbage. I'm sorry you've been brainwashed."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:10 PM (Zz0t1)

56 that goes against the religious dogmas of the Democrat Church of Satan.

they're very good at observing all the rituals and doctrines

Posted by: kallisto at July 28, 2023 02:10 PM (dCxaZ)

57 Ace - fix Vanccines (title) before VDH sees it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 28, 2023 02:10 PM (G0bXQ)

58
"This is false. Communism just hasn't been done right yet. When it's done right, it leads to utopia."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at July 28, 2023 02:09 PM (LvTSG)

What a perfect time for a John Kerry sock.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:10 PM (Zz0t1)

59 *kicks back*

*smokes cigar*

*swirls brandy*
Posted by: Lamont The REAL Big Dummy at July 28, 2023 02:02 PM (Zz0t1)
***

Right after lunch! Only going with scotch.
And Crystal vice Brandi.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 28, 2023 02:10 PM (e4fEA)

60 At some point you figure you hit bedrock, but nope the Left always manage to go lower.

In the 00s when "far right wing extremists Christians" were saying the gay rights movement would lead to the normalization of pedophilia the left said they were conspiracy theorists.

And...we have a president that molested his daughter, and the left as a whole openly supports grooming.

I guess being a conspiracy theorist now is just saying the truth too soon?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:11 PM (lc5cP)

61 What's a vanccine ?

One of Miklos's girlfriends.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority

Lol !!

Okay, that was funny !

Posted by: JT at July 28, 2023 02:11 PM (T4tVD)

62 NewsGuard is the Big Bad Wolf of foxes guarding the henhouse.

Posted by: Muldoon, not quite sure how this meme works at July 28, 2023 02:11 PM (zLLgI)

63 Censorship isn't strictly a political problem. I do not expect it to be resolved through legislation. Much like many of the other societal issues that plague us.

Some other method(s) will be required.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 28, 2023 02:11 PM (Q4IgG)

64 In America, we have the First Amendment and have long prided ourselves on having a free press, but the reality is that it's becoming harder and harder to exist as an independent publication on the internet. One major reason for this is that lots of bad actors are trying to weaponize concerns over "misinformation."
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That's not a major reason, it's merely a secondary reason. The major reason is that none of the mainline news outfits anywhere in the country are anything more than propaganda outlets. Smaller outlets might not be pure propaganda, but they also can't get a toehold because of the cartel behavior of Big Press and Big Tech, with an assist from Big Government.

The kind of stuff he's describing would be impossible if we had a free press. We don't. We haven't for a goodly while now. Yet this stuff is a *symptom* of the absence of a free press, not direct evidence of it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:11 PM (t0OGg)

65 Vanccine...
You don't have to put on the red light

Posted by: Stung at July 28, 2023 02:11 PM (krqg6)

66 10 Just build your own Internet, reichwingers!
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We did - see DARPA for the details. Now get the fuck out my country.

Posted by: Puddinhead at July 28, 2023 02:12 PM (NsE9F)

67 Just for reference, Vercellone apparently has a graduate degree in journalism from Northwestern, which generally vies with Columbia for the best journalism program in the country.
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"Best journalism program" == "they put out the most compliant and rabid propagandists."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:12 PM (t0OGg)

68 Ok false information is illegal.

How do we know what information is false?

Is there some faultless repository for all human knowledge that I'm unaware of?

BTW if Christians ever get back in power they should go along with this "misinformation" stuff and make anything that goes against Jesus illegal. He is the Truth - so let's do this shit, libs. Let's see how quick you fuckshits supposedly remember what Freedom of Speech is.

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:12 PM (3j4i9)

69 I saw Vanccines open for Biohazard and Pandemic at Monsters of Metal in '93.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:13 PM (Zz0t1)

70 As a point to consider...the FNM tells me the Chinese covid jab, which IS a vaccine, doesn't work.

They also tell me China had a ridiculously low number of COVID deaths versus the US.

So...pick one (or I suppose both)

1) The clot shot doesn't reduce the spread OR effects of COVID
2) The COVID death numbers the FNM floats for China and the US are lies.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:13 PM (lc5cP)

71 19 More than 1 in three GOPers/GOPleaners want government censorship?!? Fuck's sake.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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That is the story of GOPe. I am noting that in the microcosm of GOP local organizations, there is a war going on where GOPe wants dissidents to shut up and support the rotten GOP candidates while the dissidents insist on things like calling GOP elected officials on the carpet for misdeeds.

The truth is that most people would gladly sacrifice freedom of speech for more bucks or more power now. That is the fount of where you get the crap like --the conservative case for allowing perverts access to your children.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:13 PM (9hLLz)

72 Vanccine...
You don't have to put on the red light
Posted by: Stung at July 28, 2023 02:11 PM (krqg6)

HA!

Cute.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:13 PM (Zz0t1)

73 Tucker better start swinging his cock around

Posted by: REDACTED at July 28, 2023 02:13 PM (us2H3)

74 Fearing that this criticism might resonate with the public, "fact checkers" immediately sprung into action and tried to establish a counter-narrative quibbling with McCarthy's use of the word "agents." (See here, here, here, here, etc.) Note that The Federalist article being singled out by NewsGuard did not specify how many agents were being hired or make a specific numerical claim related to the bill like McCarthy did. It just said that an "army" of agents was being hired.
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Any port in a storm.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:13 PM (t0OGg)

75 Ok offensive speech is illegal.

ALL speech is offensive to someone somewhere, I guarantee it.

Now what?

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:13 PM (3j4i9)

76 Asking them for help. Repeatedly, politely, and with earnest desire to help the Progressive cause.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at July 28, 2023 02:06 PM (LvTSG)

--That may be a good tactic.

I'm worried that this hesitation before acting might give the game away.

Progtards have nothing productive to do, so my delay in replying might seem suspicious.

Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2023 02:13 PM (ywVDE)

77 And remember, NewsGuard is funded by FaceBook to satisfy White House, DOJ, FBI, etc. demands that they be "responsible" in what speech they allow and forbid.
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Surely you're not anti-responsibility, Ace!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:14 PM (t0OGg)

78 Facebook is still not a publisher!

Posted by: John Roberts SCCJ at July 28, 2023 02:14 PM (VtYZF)

79 Tucker better start swinging his cock around
Posted by: REDACTED at July 28, 2023 02:13 PM (us2H3)

Felling a bit garretty today, are ya?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:14 PM (Zz0t1)

80 Hmmm, maybe my first play is just to ask if they can help me in Virginia.

Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2023 02:14 PM (ywVDE)

81 Someone asked for an ass.
Couldn't find a Mace, but got a Boebert:

https://images.app.goo.gl/jdrKrmuEMt7E81pD7

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 28, 2023 02:06 PM

Nice pics! I would like to be on the subcommittee of sammich.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:14 PM (GwxCX)

82 76 --That may be a good tactic.

I'm worried that this hesitation before acting might give the game away.

Progtards have nothing productive to do, so my delay in replying might seem suspicious.
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2023 02:13 PM (ywVDE)

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You're at work. Not all leftists don't work. It's fine. You're so busy working that you're disconnected from the news cycle, and you need details, lots of details, from them about what's going in the world.

There will be many follow up questions.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at July 28, 2023 02:15 PM (LvTSG)

83 BTW if Christians ever get back in power they should go along with this "misinformation" stuff and make anything that goes against Jesus illegal. He is the Truth - so let's do this shit, libs. Let's see how quick you fuckshits supposedly remember what Freedom of Speech is.
Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:12 PM (3j4i9)

Yeah, that's never gonna happen. Trump is a great example of the real problem we face.

Put one of ours in charge and the entire hive of villainy and scum attacks the leader who dares threaten to make changes.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 28, 2023 02:15 PM (G0bXQ)

84 BTW if Christians ever get back in power they should go along with this "misinformation" stuff and make anything that goes against Jesus illegal. He is the Truth - so let's do this shit, libs. Let's see how quick you fuckshits supposedly remember what Freedom of Speech is.
Posted by: ...
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Blasphemy laws. Ironically, historically most of the Freedom of Speech movement was directed first and foremost on blasphemy laws rather than criticizing those in power.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:15 PM (9hLLz)

85 BTW if Christians ever get back in power they should go along with this "misinformation" stuff and make anything that goes against Jesus illegal

Meh, I honestly wouldn't go down this tack - too easy to argue "THEOCRACY"

But...throw people in jail for saying things like clot shot stops the spread. We've even got Fauci saying it now so there's really no defense for it.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:15 PM (lc5cP)

86 How do we know what information is false?

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The fact checkers will inform you.

You know. Like the social media fact checkers assigned to COVID who were working under the foundation that held $2B in vaccine stock.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 28, 2023 02:15 PM (rGOL6)

87 And IF we had a real Republican Party (spoiler, sorry) they would be out challenging these basic "facts" about supposed false and offensive information and how such judgments are absolutely impossible for aforestated reasons, hence Freedom of Speech.

But we don't and they won't. Because they love this shit. They LOVE having Biden and soon Kamala as president.

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:15 PM (3j4i9)

88 The First Amendment is pining for the fjords...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 28, 2023 02:16 PM (YIVH2)

89 Luckily my stubborn and cynical side kicked up

Being the object of attempted murder sharpens the senses, doesn't it? Glad you made it thru.

Posted by: t-bird at July 28, 2023 02:16 PM (bt2PN)

90 Democrats now say, by a 2 1/2 to 1 ratio, that the government should censor speech the left disapproves of rather than uphold the right to free speech.
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Not just *now* though. They have back the spread of Marcuse's ideas, and in the early 70s Marcuse was saying that opposing speech would have to be shut down.

If Obama was any kind of student to the Professors at Columbia University and of Critical Theory, he *knew* this himself.

It WAS ALWAYS THE PLAN to shut opposition speech down. Because the only "right" you have under Marxism is the right to submit to "history".

Posted by: Axeman at July 28, 2023 02:16 PM (krQz2)

91 Did they ever get their Ministry of Truth implemented?

I know they had a false start or two.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 28, 2023 02:16 PM (G0bXQ)

92
The fact checkers will inform you.

You know. Like the social media fact checkers assigned to COVID who were working under the foundation that held $2B in vaccine stock.

Then: Your nobles will think for you

Now: Your fact checkers will think for you

Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:16 PM (lc5cP)

93 80 Hmmm, maybe my first play is just to ask if they can help me in Virginia.
Posted by: logprof
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Tell them you are registered to vote in two states and you are wondering which state in vote in.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:16 PM (9hLLz)

94 To this 'ron, NewsGuard implies that they're guarding you *from* legitimate news, not protecting it.

Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2023 02:16 PM (ywVDE)

95 Q: Where does the head of the IRS keep his armies?

A: In his sleevies!

Posted by: Muldoon at July 28, 2023 02:17 PM (zLLgI)

96 This started happening about 2 years ago; I would argue with my lib idiot friends, and would send them an article or reference, and rather than reading and addressing the source in the text, would say, "oh Newsguard says that source is biased" and then discard and disregard the information. That's when we really stopped talking about politics.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 28, 2023 02:17 PM (JvZF+)

97 Been watching Direct D on utube. The cops in Mesa and Tempe have been looking to get him for a while (he is a 'cop watcher', and catches them violating people's right very often. Plus, he can be a real asshole). Anyway, he filed a records request about him, his company Street News, etc. and 700 separate entries came back. Most of these are emails between cops talking about him, apparently. He is trying to get these records, but the county won't release them to his authorized representative; they want him to pick them up personally so they can arrest him on a bullshit warrant.

Bottom line, petty government conspiring and withholding info because they are cockroaches that don't like the sunlight.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 28, 2023 02:17 PM (ufFY8)

98 Meh, I honestly wouldn't go down this tack - too easy to argue "THEOCRACY"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:15 PM (lc5cP)

I would do it ten times over. Either false information is legal or it's illegal. Make them decide.

They can't say that false information is only illegal if it doesn't go against a theocracy. That's now how information and falsehoods work. It's either legal or illegal to say things that are not true.

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:17 PM (3j4i9)

99 AOS has been at the cutting edge of online censorship. The Central Scrutinizer has been posting here for years.

Posted by: Hot Rats at July 28, 2023 02:17 PM (tO+U3)

100 "... Nick Clegg, Facebook's president for global affairs,..."

For those who are not familiar with the name, Nick Clegg was the leader of the Lib Dems Party in the UK. The Lib Dems make Labour look like the UK Conservatives Party.

This is a Red Politician, through and through. Little wonder that FaceBook made a home for him here.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 28, 2023 02:17 PM (/iWhV)

101 Pretty soon it's going to be: Look how Joe Biden has made the trains run on time!

America will have no special love of liberty. Only servile love of being looked after (until it's inconvenient, right Canada?)

Posted by: Axeman at July 28, 2023 02:18 PM (krQz2)

102 69 I saw Vanccines open for Biohazard and Pandemic at Monsters of Metal in '93.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:13 PM (Zz0t1)

Great show!

Posted by: Caught in a Mosh at July 28, 2023 02:18 PM (53oGX)

103 So every time some lefty says "literally" but means "figuratively" I'll expect NewsGuard to censor them.

Posted by: Zek at July 28, 2023 02:18 PM (5FPX4)

104 Tell them you are registered to vote in two states and you are wondering which state in vote in.
Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:16 PM (9hLLz)

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Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2023 02:18 PM (ywVDE)

105 Vaccine made with Camp Lejeune water.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 28, 2023 02:18 PM (63Dwl)

106 Part of the reason the left is onboard with this sort of censorship by the elites is they already live by it.

Notice how just everyone on the left constantly says the exact same thing? Even if they were saying the exact opposite just before? Because they get told what to think and they then do so.

As a golden example...Before Trump fired Comey the left was demanding Comey be fired. Remember he admitted Hillary committed multiple felonies.

And then during the taping of a Colbert show...Trump fired Comey. Colbert announced it and the audience started clapping. Colbert angrily demanded they stop and told them this was BAD. And just like that...they all agreed.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:19 PM (lc5cP)

107 BTW if Christians ever get back in power they should go along with this "misinformation" stuff and make anything that goes against Jesus illegal. He is the Truth - so let's do this shit,

This is exactly what the Roman Catholic Church did at the height of its temporal power, and to this day is roundly criticized for it, even among conservatives.

Posted by: kallisto at July 28, 2023 02:19 PM (dCxaZ)

108 "Communism is a failed ideology that always ends up leading to centralized power centers run by insiders who use their power to oppress everyone outside of it in order to cement their power for as long as possible."

"This is false. Communism just hasn't been done right yet. When it's done right, it leads to utopia."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at July 28, 2023 02:09 PM

Yep, that's how it's done. For anyone on the left who can dispute them wanting to stifle free speech, remind them of this and the fact that they actually tried to set up a fucking bureau of misinformation (forget the term)

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:20 PM (GwxCX)

109 To this 'ron, NewsGuard implies that they're guarding you *from* legitimate news, not protecting it.

Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2023 02:16 PM (ywVDE)

Funny enough when Meryl Streep famously said they need to "safeguard the truth" in that weird threatening speech where she started giving out random small details about minor actor's lives and obviously creeping them out, I took it to mean they couldn't let the truth *come out*.

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:20 PM (3j4i9)

110 Yeah, that's never gonna happen. Trump is a great example of the real problem we face.

Put one of ours in charge and the entire hive of villainy and scum attacks the leader who dares threaten to make changes.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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Corrupt aristocracies according to classic political theory almost always give way to a strong man tyrant whether chosen by the people or one turncoat elite who internally crushes their opponents.

With many tyrants that are running here and there about the place making everyone miserable, the plebes generally coalesce around one strong leader to crush the mini-tyrants---either in a coup or a civil war. Easier to submit to one SOB than many of them with contradictory every changing rules.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:20 PM (9hLLz)

111 Pretty soon it's going to be: Look how Joe Biden has made the trains run on time!

I read that as trans run on time.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 28, 2023 02:21 PM (ufFY8)

112 This is exactly what the Roman Catholic Church did at the height of its temporal power, and to this day is roundly criticized for it, even among conservatives.

A lot of lives could have been saved if the Pope had looked at Luther's criticisms seriously and started removing priests and bishops.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:21 PM (lc5cP)

113 Lawful evil rather than chaotic evil if one uses D&D descriptions.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:21 PM (9hLLz)

114
Funny enough when Meryl Streep famously said they need to "safeguard the truth" in that weird threatening speech where she started giving out random small details about minor actor's lives and obviously creeping them out, I took it to mean they couldn't let the truth *come out*.
Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:20 PM (3j4i9)

"It's our job to tell you what to think!!!"

- - - - Mika Bizznasty Sucking Morning Joe

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:21 PM (Zz0t1)

115 Knowing the details of how the sausage was made makes it EXTRA sweeter that Elon took over Twitter.

Posted by: kallisto at July 28, 2023 02:21 PM (dCxaZ)

116 The same people who put on masks and have taken 17 different cov-jabs are the same people who support the government supression of free speech. They are weak and lazy. They need someone else to think for them.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:21 PM (GwxCX)

117 110 With many tyrants that are running here and there about the place making everyone miserable, the plebes generally coalesce around one strong leader to crush the mini-tyrants---either in a coup or a civil war. Easier to submit to one SOB than many of them with contradictory every changing rules.
Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:20 PM (9hLLz)

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You usually don't vote for Oliver Cromwell, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at July 28, 2023 02:22 PM (LvTSG)

118 Thanks for the suggestion, TJM.

I actually have a connection with a local Board of Elections (in Virginia, not NC) and I'm going to get his input as well.

Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2023 02:22 PM (ywVDE)

119 Banana Republic

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 28, 2023 02:22 PM (Xrfse)

120 Getting the Covid shot was the best thing for me and my fam...wait, what happened to Brony?

Posted by: LeBron James at July 28, 2023 02:22 PM (AL+zq)

121
And then during the taping of a Colbert show...Trump fired Comey. Colbert announced it and the audience started clapping. Colbert angrily demanded they stop and told them this was BAD. And just like that...they all agreed.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:19 PM (lc5cP)

Lemmings.......

https://youtu.be/N6DfGKfVWPs

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:22 PM (Zz0t1)

122 This is exactly what the Roman Catholic Church did at the height of its temporal power, and to this day is roundly criticized for it, even among conservatives.

Posted by: kallisto at July 28, 2023 02:19 PM (dCxaZ)

This is their rule, not mine. I'm just applying it in a way they might not enjoy. How else do we propose to stop them? Sticking to "our principles" and asking nicely for them to please stop? How about a discussion roundtable? If they let us out of jail I mean.

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:23 PM (3j4i9)

123 120 Getting the Covid shot was the best thing for me and my fam...wait, what happened to Brony?
Posted by: LeBron James at July 28, 2023 02:22 PM (AL+zq)

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He read the second page of a book?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at July 28, 2023 02:23 PM (LvTSG)

124 A lot of lives could have been saved if the Pope had looked at Luther's criticisms seriously and started removing priests and bishops.
Posted by: 18-1
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Money was involved and Germany at the time was one of the most productive revenue sources for the Vatican and its related money lenders.

Luther got succor and political support from some German princes that wanted to keep that money from indulgences and other such goodies at home rather than send it to Rome.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:23 PM (9hLLz)

125 If you want to see a leftist head explode, ask them "Why was there a First Amendment in the first place?"

They have so lost touch with the underlying values why free thought is necessary to be a free human that they will either stare blankly, or at most try to construct a narrow historic or legal explanation.

Posted by: Zek at July 28, 2023 02:23 PM (5FPX4)

126 One of the government agencies, and honestly I forget which one, officially said it was "dangerous" to do your own research on COVID.

And that should tell you everything you need to do about how honest the official narrative was.

Hell remember how it was a "scientific fact" the clot shot stopped the spread...until suddenly not only was it not but everyone in the government agreed no one in the government ever said that.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:23 PM (lc5cP)

127 The same people who put on masks and have taken 17 different cov-jabs are the same people who support the government supression of free speech. They are weak and lazy. They need someone else to think for them.

Yep.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 28, 2023 02:23 PM (Xrfse)

128 122 This is exactly what the Roman Catholic Church did at the height of its temporal power, and to this day is roundly criticized for it, even among conservatives.

Posted by: kallisto at July 28, 2023 02:19 PM (dCxaZ)

This is their rule, not mine. I'm just applying it in a way they might not enjoy. How else do we propose to stop them? Sticking to "our principles" and asking nicely for them to please stop? How about a discussion roundtable? If they let us out of jail I mean.
Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:23 PM (3j4i9)

This is not who we are!

Posted by: Republican Blue Bloods at July 28, 2023 02:23 PM (53oGX)

129 Democrats are poising themselves to steal the next election. Many of the same things they used last time are still in effect, and more is coming. It's why they are so confident they can continue to crush the American citizenry.

Censorship is yesterdays news. There is also nothing being done to really stop it. Facebook has pretty much said, yeah we did it. So what?

Let me know when someone pays a price for any of this.

Posted by: Viper at July 28, 2023 02:23 PM (Vv0FN)

130 Knowing the details of how the sausage was made makes it EXTRA sweeter that Elon took over Twitter.

Posted by: kallisto at July 28, 2023 02:21 PM

I loved the Bee's headline. Musk's board rejected him renaming Twitter to 69boobies420. So he went with X.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:23 PM (GwxCX)

131 - - - - Mika Bizznasty Sucking Morning Joe
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Is it just me or does Morning Joe look like Butt-Head?

Posted by: Puddinhead at July 28, 2023 02:24 PM (NsE9F)

132 One of the government agencies, and honestly I forget which one, officially said it was "dangerous" to do your own research on COVID.

And that should tell you everything you need to do about how honest the official narrative was. ...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:23 PM (lc5cP)
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Your place is not to learn, but to to receive information.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:24 PM (t0OGg)

133 79 Tucker better start swinging his cock around
Posted by: REDACTED at July 28, 2023 02:13 PM (us2H3)

Felling a bit garretty today, are ya?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:14 PM (Zz0t1)

blow you, I mean, blow me

you know the thing

Posted by: REDACTED at July 28, 2023 02:24 PM (us2H3)

134 A lot of lives could have been saved if the Pope had looked at Luther's criticisms seriously and started removing priests and bishops.

The Pope did take Luther seriously and in fact negotiations went back and forth between Rome and wherever Luther was holed up in Germany. But Luther didn't want to hear it, or more specifically, the civil authorities that were chafing under Rome's rule, and preferred having their own clerical puppet in house, so to speak, influenced Luther to just shut everything Roman Catholic down.

And after the break was made, the RC Church did put reforms into place. Catholic reforms didn't start as a result of Luther though. Saints through the ages started their own reform movements, that's how the monasteries started. Devout men were sick of the secular corruption.

Posted by: kallisto at July 28, 2023 02:25 PM (dCxaZ)

135 Money was involved and Germany at the time was one of the most productive revenue sources for the Vatican and its related money lenders.

Yes - it would have required the Pope focus on the temporal corruption of the church. And much like the modern GOPe he apparently had more important things to do...

Though I'll give him this, at least he was intentionally introducing religious corruption into the RCC like the Red Pope.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:25 PM (lc5cP)

136 Am looking for an ophthalmologist and one recommended to me by a doctor I know had a form for new patient intake. It asked whether received a Covid vaccine and "how many times boosted."
F*ck him and the immune-deficient horse he rode in on. I'll find someone else.

Posted by: Zek at July 28, 2023 02:25 PM (5FPX4)

137 "Dangerous" to research on your own.

Fuck that noise, and piss off, wanker.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 28, 2023 02:25 PM (ufFY8)

138 The government has a right to censor speech they don't like. Well except for when states banned Mormons. Im certain the all piwerful state wouldn'tdo that again. Now watch me finally kick the football Lucy is holding.

Posted by: Pierre Delecto at July 28, 2023 02:25 PM (AL+zq)

139 ---------------
Is it just me or does Morning Joe look like Butt-Head?
Posted by: Puddinhead at July 28, 2023 02:24 PM (NsE9F)

It's not you. I still can't get laid because of it, tho.

Posted by: Butt-Head at July 28, 2023 02:25 PM (Zz0t1)

140
2023: Not reformatting government press releases <=> "misinformation".

Posted by: Axeman at July 28, 2023 02:26 PM (krQz2)

141 79 Tucker better start swinging his cock around
Posted by: REDACTED at July 28, 2023 02:13 PM (us2H3)

Square dance lyrics.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 28, 2023 02:26 PM (TZ75n)

142 Lemmings.......

https://youtu.be/N6DfGKfVWPs
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:22 PM

That's a perfect example of these weaklings and cowards. It's why they can't think for themselves and they don't want anyone else to do so. They're pussies.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:26 PM (GwxCX)

143
blow you, I mean, blow me

you know the thing
Posted by: REDACTED at July 28, 2023 02:24 PM (us2H3)

LOL

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:26 PM (Zz0t1)

144 You usually don't vote for Oliver Cromwell, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Hard to apply in that case as Oliver was elected and most of that Long Parliament was elected in order to stymie the king and his desire to be absolute monarch. Using ancient powers to compel seaports to pay for ships for example were not popular in those sea ports, ditto with trying to raise money via old feudal ways via the aristocrats, and so on, in order to prevent Parliament from being called to raise taxes.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:26 PM (9hLLz)

145
That's a perfect example of these weaklings and cowards. It's why they can't think for themselves and they don't want anyone else to do so. They're pussies.
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:26 PM (GwxCX)

It's why they're against God. God given free thought is the enemy of the left and they will fight it with all their might.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)

146 When your speech is always wrong, of course you have to silence critics and the ones who are actually right. It's the only way to keep doing wrong.

Democrats/Statists have their plan and will go to the grave implementing it if they have to.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at July 28, 2023 02:27 PM (aXxgO)

147 The same people who put on masks and have taken 17 different cov-jabs are the same people who support the government supression of free speech. They are weak and lazy. They need someone else to think for them.

Yep.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 28, 2023 02:23 PM (Xrfse)
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A surprisingly large number of people really are sheep and will do whatever they are told by someone perceived to be in charge.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 28, 2023 02:27 PM (YIVH2)

148 "Fearing that this criticism might resonate with the public..."

As is the wont of truth.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 28, 2023 02:27 PM (wzAuc)

149 The best part of the people that took all the boosters? They keep telling you how they keep catching COVID.

Now...I don't know if it really is COVID or just a cold but it is pure GOLD when I ask my cow-workers if they are sure they did get the latest booster.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:27 PM (lc5cP)

150 I always wonder about these so-called "revelations": why this? Why now? What is being prepared? Nothing good, I think. Occam's Razor says they'll try to get rid of Joe. Maybe.

Also this: "...demonstrably inhibits confidence in Covid vaccines amongst those the Biden Administration is trying to reach..." Trying to reach FB users. What are the characteristics of FB users? The answer will explain a lot about social media users and social media purpose.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at July 28, 2023 02:27 PM (Rbu5d)

151 96 This started happening about 2 years ago; I would argue with my lib idiot friends, and would send them an article or reference, and rather than reading and addressing the source in the text, would say, "oh Newsguard says that source is biased" and then discard and disregard the information. That's when we really stopped talking about politics.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 28, 2023 02:17 PM (JvZF+)

Happened _long_ before that with me.

Even as far back as 2012 : "If it's not from HuffPo, Mother Jones, or Daily Kos, it's right-wing lies."

Posted by: XTC at July 28, 2023 02:27 PM (UnA8+)

152 Tucker better start swinging his cock around

It's a piece of cake.

Posted by: Big Mike at July 28, 2023 02:28 PM (Xrfse)

153 Why do you think the left tried to label anything pro-Trump as Rrrrrusssiian disinformation? They are skipping the middle man now and going right to Uncle Sam to do their bidding.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:28 PM (GwxCX)

154 2 minutes to drinking......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:28 PM (Zz0t1)

155 Vanccine: like a vaccine, but you get it from a white van with "free immunity" spray-painted on the side.

Posted by: mikeski at July 28, 2023 02:28 PM (4K38l)

156 Tucker better start swinging his cock around

Just not on a paddleboard

Posted by: Barack Obama at July 28, 2023 02:29 PM (lc5cP)

157 150 I always wonder about these so-called "revelations": why this? Why now? What is being prepared? Nothing good, I think. Occam's Razor says they'll try to get rid of Joe. Maybe.

Also this: "...demonstrably inhibits confidence in Covid vaccines amongst those the Biden Administration is trying to reach..." Trying to reach FB users. What are the characteristics of FB users? The answer will explain a lot about social media users and social media purpose.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at July 28, 2023 02:27 PM (Rbu5d)

Don't discount that this is Dem infighting. One faction fighting another for power.
If it were the GOP the media would be trumpeting this fight but it's dems so they are keeping it in house.

Posted by: Inogame at July 28, 2023 02:29 PM (53oGX)

158 >>>127 The same people who put on masks and have taken 17 different cov-jabs are the same people who support the government supression of free speech.

Here's how that Venn diagram looks:

O

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 28, 2023 02:29 PM (wzAuc)

159 Tucker better start swinging his cock around

It's a piece of cake.
Posted by: Big Mike at July 28, 2023 02:28 PM (Xrfse)

*anal sweats*

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at July 28, 2023 02:29 PM (Zz0t1)

160 Lemmings.......

https://youtu.be/N6DfGKfVWPs
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:22 PM (Zz0t1)

--Shiny metal boxes?

Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2023 02:29 PM (ywVDE)

161 And after the break was made, the RC Church did put reforms into place. Catholic reforms didn't start as a result of Luther though. Saints through the ages started their own reform movements, that's how the monasteries started. Devout men were sick of the secular corruption.
Posted by: kallisto

And those monasteries in turn became heaven for the abbots and not so great for the average monk. They accumulated so much wealth and land that they in turn became a target for avaricious rulers like Henry VIIIth, same as the old Crusader orders for Phillip the Fair of France.

The lesson is wealth and the lust for money and power corrupts even churches and its leaders.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:29 PM (9hLLz)

162 "I am reaching out because we are in the process of updating our analysis of TheFederalist.com and I have a few questions about the content published on the site. I am also attaching our currently-published analysis of The Federalist for your reference."

That is ominous.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at July 28, 2023 02:29 PM (Rbu5d)

163 "Why was there a First Amendment in the first place?"

*********

"I'm not allowed to say!"

Posted by: Muldoon at July 28, 2023 02:29 PM (zLLgI)

164 "Even as far back as 2012 : If it's not from HuffPo, Mother Jones, or Daily Kos, it's right-wing lies."

What's screamingly perverse is that lefties still think "from Fox" is the mark of alt-right-ultra-MAGA.

Posted by: Zek at July 28, 2023 02:30 PM (5FPX4)

165 115 Knowing the details of how the sausage was made makes it EXTRA sweeter that Elon took over Twitter.

Posted by: kallisto at July 28, 2023 02:21 PM (dCxaZ)

Handing it over to Linda Yaccarino has made it just as censor and ban-happy as it used to be.

Posted by: XTC at July 28, 2023 02:30 PM (UnA8+)

166 Even as far back as 2012 : "If it's not from HuffPo, Mother Jones, or Daily Kos, it's right-wing lies."
Posted by: XTC at July 28, 2023 02:27 PM (UnA8+)

Exactly.
Libtard friend of mine would always attack the source, and not the info or concept discussed.

And I could NEVER pin him down on "what is a proper and fair tax rate?".

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 28, 2023 02:30 PM (ufFY8)

167 154 2 minutes to drinking......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:28 PM (Zz0t1)

90 min to vacation...

Posted by: Inogame at July 28, 2023 02:30 PM (53oGX)

168 No, no, no... I'm sure of it. What I had was LONG Omicron.

Posted by: Karen down the street at July 28, 2023 02:30 PM (NBVIP)

169 Don't discount that this is Dem infighting. One faction fighting another for power.
If it were the GOP the media would be trumpeting this fight but it's dems so they are keeping it in house.

It was interesting watching the "COVID's over" and the "COVID party don't stop" factions of the Democrats fighting last year. The former sort of won, but during the fight the various leaks were hilarious.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:30 PM (lc5cP)

170 Now...I don't know if it really is COVID or just a cold but it is pure GOLD when I ask my cow-workers if they are sure they did get the latest booster.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:27 PM

I'd fuck with them and lie and tell them there's been 3 more boosters that have come out since they got theirs and urge them to call their doctor right away to line up.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:30 PM (GwxCX)

171 Anyone watching so-called Justified?

What a disappointment that is.

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:31 PM (3j4i9)

172 Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:23 PM (9hLLz)

oh I see you made the point before I did.

in a much clearer and concise fashion I might add

Posted by: kallisto at July 28, 2023 02:31 PM (dCxaZ)

173 Time, place, and manner restrictions.
Any time.
Any place,
Any manner.

restricted. And that doesn't apply to the government. They can parade in the rotunda, have sit ins in the well of the House. Theatrically tear up government documents in a joint session of Congress. Send their goons to yell in the gallery of the Supreme Court.

Many such examples.

Posted by: torabora at July 28, 2023 02:31 PM (OUiUM)

174
What's screamingly perverse is that lefties still think "from Fox" is the mark of alt-right-ultra-MAGA.
Posted by: Zek at July 28, 2023 02:30 PM (5FPX4)

Douchebag neighbor from up the street was yelling at me about Trump during the plandemic.

"YOU WATCH FOX NEWS, DON'T YOU!!!!"

"I don't have cable TV, you idiot......."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:31 PM (Zz0t1)

175 A surprisingly large number of people really are sheep and will do whatever they are told by someone perceived to be in charge.

Yeah, I know. I guess it's nothing new. Historical context confirms that.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 28, 2023 02:31 PM (Xrfse)

176 90 min to vacation...
Posted by: Inogame

Have a safe and enjoyable one !

Posted by: JT at July 28, 2023 02:31 PM (T4tVD)

177 2 minutes to drinking......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:28 PM (Zz0t1)
++++
What's special about 14:30 ET?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:31 PM (t0OGg)

178 I'm now late to drinking.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:32 PM (Zz0t1)

179 136 Am looking for an ophthalmologist and one recommended to me by a doctor I know had a form for new patient intake. It asked whether received a Covid vaccine and "how many times boosted."
F*ck him and the immune-deficient horse he rode in on. I'll find someone else.

----

It MAY be a request for legitimate information.

Eye issues are one of the Vaxx side effects. Including blindness I think.

It MAY be that. More inquiry from you might be needed to discern this.

Posted by: Just Lily at July 28, 2023 02:32 PM (RLLZj)

180 178 I'm now late to drinking.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:32 PM (Zz0t1)

Come on man!

Posted by: Inogame at July 28, 2023 02:32 PM (53oGX)

181

"We will continue to be your single source of truth..."

"Unless you hear it from us, it is not the truth..."

This speech might be from March 2020, but it clearly foreshadowed the path New Zealand has followed for a year and a half.

When the government is telling you that they are the only source of truth, you know really bad things are about to follow.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 28, 2023 02:32 PM (63Dwl)

182 And I could NEVER pin him down on "what is a proper and fair tax rate?".

I'm surrounded by Northeastern lower upper class leftists. Though the live in multimillion dollar homes, have multiple SUVs, and take more then one major over seas trip a year they are SURE they are middle class. They don't know what a fair tax rate is but they do know two things

1) They pay too much in taxes
2) The "rich" are not paying enough in taxes.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:32 PM (lc5cP)

183 All the COVID flyers came down in unison about a week before The Play-doh Pedo announced his re-fakelection. It was weird but predictable.

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:32 PM (3j4i9)

184 ++++
What's special about 14:30 ET?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:31 PM (t0OGg)

Seems like as good a time as any to start drinking. It IS Fryday after all.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:32 PM (Zz0t1)

185 : "We are facing continued pressure from external stakeholders, including the [Biden] White House" to remove posts criticizing COVID-19 vaccines.

-------

"By 2030, you will have only one 'stakeholder,' comrades -- and you will be made to like it!"

-- Junta Ministry of Truth

Posted by: ShainS at July 28, 2023 02:33 PM (L5vz5)

186 I'd fuck with them and lie and tell them there's been 3 more boosters that have come out since they got theirs and urge them to call their doctor right away to line up.
Posted by: Minnfidel

This is the way.

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan! at July 28, 2023 02:33 PM (k+EOy)

187 Here, hold my "stake"...

Posted by: Dear "Stakeholder at July 28, 2023 02:33 PM (5FPX4)

188 184 ++++
What's special about 14:30 ET?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:31 PM (t0OGg)

Seems like as good a time as any to start drinking. It IS Fryday after all.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:32 PM (Zz0t1)

Can't drink all day if you don't start early...

Posted by: Inogame at July 28, 2023 02:33 PM (53oGX)

189 They have so lost touch with the underlying values why free thought is necessary to be a free human that they will either stare blankly, or at most try to construct a narrow historic or legal explanation.
Posted by: Zek at July 28, 2023 02:23 PM (5FPX4)
---
It's inevitable with Darwinism.

The vast majority of humanity are non-optimized "mistakes". They're going to need someone real smart to lead them.

There is no reason to have to hear from the lower 80% of humanity. We have Science. You don't need to form your own opinion.

Meanwhile, Christianity was about individual witness, and when Christians got tired of getting it wrong enough, they realized that each man should witness according to their conscience. The Christian faith required an individual confession of faith, and individual witness to the graces of faith.

Christian faith celebrates your individuality, you're a number under Darwin. (Whether or not Darwinism is true.)

Posted by: Axeman at July 28, 2023 02:33 PM (krQz2)

190 Has rhomboid been around or did he get sick of our shit?

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:34 PM (3j4i9)

191 And I could NEVER pin him down on "what is a proper and fair tax rate?".

--

It's so funny how easy an answer that is.

10%. Same as tithing. And it comes from everyone. If you vote, you pay 10% on income, be it from a job, from welfare, or from investments.

Everyone pays the same amount.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 28, 2023 02:34 PM (rGOL6)

192 What I am really afraid of now is there comes along a truly deadly virus and again am faced with another government vaccine.

Posted by: torabora at July 28, 2023 02:34 PM (OUiUM)

193 "Well, it starts with firing off a series of hostile questions to the editors of a website about weirdly specific aspects of its coverage and demands you answer them in a vain attempt to improve whatever rating NewsGuard's going to give you."

Business opportunity here to produce Anti-NewsGuard, a server plugin that tracks NewsGuard IP addresses and blocks their access to your network/node/domain or forwards their traffic to a default "Here's what NewsGuard really does" webpage.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at July 28, 2023 02:34 PM (aXxgO)

194 Ace, they weren't just censoring stuff about the vaccines. They were censoring stuff about the origin of the virus.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 28, 2023 02:34 PM (gHSfI)

195 Has rhomboid been around or did he get sick of our shit?
Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:34 PM

Yea and what about Fen?

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:34 PM (GwxCX)

196
What I had was LONG Omicron.
Posted by: Karen down the street

I have a short Delta.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 28, 2023 02:35 PM (63Dwl)

197 Isn't "stakeholders" triggering to vegans? It sounds like "steak holders".

Posted by: Eeyore at July 28, 2023 02:35 PM (brAQZ)

198 Wifey just bought a Keurig and I suddenly don't mind it after only drinking nice espresso drinks forever. Is there something wrong with me?

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:35 PM (3j4i9)

199 So Facefuck "panicked" and complied with what they wanted to.

Like when democrats "settle" with lawsuits they want.

Posted by: eleven at July 28, 2023 02:35 PM (iziT8)

200 I predicted less than 15 years ago that when Christianity is pushed out of the public square, civil rights would follow eventually.

Posted by: Axeman at July 28, 2023 02:35 PM (krQz2)

201 Holy smokes. There's an amusing YouTube series called "Shit Southern Women Say" and this video I just saw included a section called, "Southern Directions." It is the most accurate thing I have ever seen. I have been through this many, many times. I've even found myself *doing* it from time to time. It's amazing anyone can find their way anywhere.
https://youtu.be/lNWt6Wd9gXU?t=134

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:35 PM (t0OGg)

202 60...I guess being a conspiracy theorist now is just saying the truth too soon?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:11 PM (lc5cP)

#2weeks

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at July 28, 2023 02:35 PM (Rbu5d)

203 The Catholic Church has survived multiple sacks of Rome, antipopes, heresies, Dissolution of the monasteries, the Axis, and Moors, Arabs, Vikings, Turks, and innumerable local persections.

She'll be fine. The Faithful Remnant is only getting purer and more robust.

Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2023 02:36 PM (ywVDE)

204 Seems like as good a time as any to start drinking. It IS Fryday after all.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:32 PM (Zz0t1)
++++
Fair enough!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:36 PM (t0OGg)

205
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
Suggestion is requirement.

Posted by: ShainS at July 28, 2023 02:36 PM (L5vz5)

206 I am increasingly coming to believe that no business should ever hire anyone who majored in that business. No journolism majors in the newsroom; no education majors in the classroom, etc.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 28, 2023 02:36 PM (brAQZ)

207 You know how you know your new friend is a vegan?

Wait 3 seconds.

Posted by: eleven at July 28, 2023 02:36 PM (iziT8)

208 The lesson is wealth and the lust for money and power corrupts even churches and its leaders.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:29 PM (9hLLz)

of course! Humanity is a fallen race, the book of Genesis reminds us.

The English monasteries, with all their wealth also provided what we would now refer to as "social services" to the poor of the surrounding areas. Food was provided to those who were on the verge of starving, as was health care. The monasteries were a repository of all kinds of useful information and services.

So when the dissolution of the monasteries occurred, so did essential support for the impoverished of the regions. And what did they do, they flocked to the big city. Even Charles Dickens, no lover of Catholics he, complained that the horrible slum conditions of the 19th century would not exist if the monasteries had stayed intact and therefore kept the peasants on their rural lands.

Posted by: kallisto at July 28, 2023 02:36 PM (dCxaZ)

209 Tolerance is celebration
Dissent is Russian disinformation

Posted by: Zek at July 28, 2023 02:37 PM (5FPX4)

210 This busty, bespectacled bikini blonde resents that while she was born in something approximating a free country and never moved away, she now lives in a tyranny:
https://is.gd/J5JAsJ

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:37 PM (t0OGg)

211 We live in such a dangerous world, if people with opposing views from mine aren't silenced, they might state their disagreement with my opinions,people might listen to them and my ego will not brook that foolishness.

Posted by: Democrats and Open Minded Progressives at July 28, 2023 02:37 PM (AD14M)

212 When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.

Posted by: The Left at July 28, 2023 02:38 PM (aD39U)

213 O/T: Update on my dad

So yesterday, I met the exterminator to work the house. He didn't even want to evaluate as bed bugs are nasty little f*ckers, so he wanted to straight treat. It was needed as there were multiple areas where he started spraying and they started moving around.

He cut us a bit of a deal since it was my dad and step-mom and I helped him prep and move things around. about mid-way through, the hospital called and RELEASED my dad. No way he was ready, plus we had no warning whatsoever he would be released so quick.

His wife went and picked him up while we were still working. They didn't even give my dad a chance to change out of the gown and put on clothes. Nor did they bathe him while he was there. VERY disappointing.

We're still pushing to get the home health and assistance people back out now that the house has been treated, so they're back on their own again, just in time for the weekend.

What a f*cking disaster this whole thing has turned out to be......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:38 PM (Zz0t1)

214 Day drinking is a thing bisches.

Posted by: eleven at July 28, 2023 02:38 PM (iziT8)

215 From "One of the dumbest moves" files:

Report: D.J. Cooper suspended by FIBA for faking drug test that revealed he was pregnant

His drug test, according to Eurohoops.net, revealed that he was pregnant.
The test on the urine that Cooper provided revealed the presence of human chorionic gonadotropin, or hCG, which is a hormone made by the placenta during pregnancy. That urine, per the report, actually belonged to his girlfriend — who likely didn’t know she was pregnant at the time.

https://tinyurl.com/4e294pp5

Posted by: rickb223 at July 28, 2023 02:38 PM (uiWTm)

216
Question: How can I take advantage in such a way as to maximize the wasting of resources by these fraudbrokers? I want to watch the burn cash instead of steal votes.
Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2023 02:05 PM (ywVDE)

———

You should join it then work work within to destroy it.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 28, 2023 02:38 PM (3nSG+)

217 oh I see you made the point before I did.

in a much clearer and concise fashion I might add
Posted by: kallisto
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Thanks. I am pretty much an absolutist on free speech. In modern times, all these church ministers peddling prosperity and following social trends at the sacrifice of principles are the ones using religion as a means of gaining wealth and power.

Give me a poor ole country church with a small congregation far more the big establishment churches.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:38 PM (9hLLz)

218 >>>Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:35 PM (t0OGg)

====

Their Walmart stuff is pretty good too.

Posted by: Turn 2 at July 28, 2023 02:38 PM (MnOtr)

219 A significant portion of "Democrats" aren't even Americans.

They are dot heads, Pakiscamis, South American banana republicans, muzzies and sub-Saharan Africans.

They don't even recognize the idea of a set of immutable rights granted by the Creator. Most don't even believe in the Creator.

They burn incense to an eight armed buddha, wear sugar skull death masks, and wear shrunken heads on a necklace of human teeth, or at least their ancestors did.

Did you really think they would honor the Constitution? To them, it is merely a piece of paper for wiping their ass with.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 28, 2023 02:38 PM (+Tqnv)

220 You know how you know your new friend is a vegan?

Wait 3 seconds.
Posted by: eleven at July 28, 2023 02:36 PM (iziT

DONE!

Posted by: Chris Kohberger at July 28, 2023 02:38 PM (ywVDE)

221 Knowing the details of how the sausage was made...

*******

I can tell you that under Bidenomics butchers have resorted to using sawdust as a filler because it's hard to make both ends meat.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 28, 2023 02:39 PM (zLLgI)

222

The IRS is just calling to help you out.

Don't you want help?

Posted by: Auspex at July 28, 2023 02:39 PM (j4U/Z)

223 210 This busty, bespectacled bikini blonde resents that while she was born in something approximating a free country and never moved away, she now lives in a tyranny:
https://is.gd/J5JAsJ
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:37 PM (t0OGg)

========

Glasses are obviously for show, indicating that she has serious problems with her self___.

2/10

Would not bang.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at July 28, 2023 02:39 PM (LvTSG)

224 What I had was LONG Omicron.
Posted by: Karen down the street

It still amazes me how much Karens loved COVID, masking, and "we're all in this together".

I guess it was so much more "exciting" then our collective peace and prosperity under Trump.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:40 PM (lc5cP)

225 196
What I had was LONG Omicron.
Posted by: Karen down the street

I have a short Delta.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 28, 2023 02:35 PM (63Dwl)

Sounds like Sponge is getting Double Wiskey

Posted by: Inogame at July 28, 2023 02:40 PM (53oGX)

226 "My name is Chiara Vercellone and I'm an analyst at NewsGuard Technologies, a service that reviews news and information websites based on a set of credibility criteria, and monitors misinformation trends online."

One Response: "My name is unimportant and so is yours and you. I am not beholden to any of your wishes or desires. We will perform no requests and will not perpetuate your intrusive business model. Pound sand."

I suppose I could get nastier with language, but that's the gist. Simply, "GFY".

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at July 28, 2023 02:40 PM (aXxgO)

227 What a f*cking disaster this whole thing has turned out to be......
Posted by: Sponge

Might try hiring a good social worker on a gig basis to serve as advocate when you cannot. It is something that has worked for me to help care for a loved one at a distance.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:40 PM (9hLLz)

228
Would not bang.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at July 28, 2023 02:39 PM (LvTSG)

I'll take your turn, then.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:40 PM (Zz0t1)

229 Day drinking is a thing bisches.

Posted by: eleven

= =

Yeah, buddy!

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary at July 28, 2023 02:40 PM (AD14M)

230 I can tell you that under Bidenomics butchers have resorted to using sawdust as a filler because it's hard to make both ends meat.

I saw an FNM article earlier today taking about wasteful purchases people still insist on making at the grocery store.

Item #1? Cheese.

That's right under Bidenomics Cheese is now an extravagance.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:41 PM (lc5cP)

231
Sounds like Sponge is getting Double Wiskey
Posted by: Inogame at July 28, 2023 02:40 PM (53oGX)

I'm priming now. Will start that this evening......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:41 PM (Zz0t1)

232 What a f*cking disaster this whole thing has turned out to be......

To say the least. What a nightmare. Praying that things get better for you.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 28, 2023 02:41 PM (Xrfse)

233 "Yeah, buddy!

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary "

Hot enough for ya?

Posted by: eleven at July 28, 2023 02:42 PM (iziT8)

234 Boebert and Mace. I would like to be Secretary of Sammich.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:42 PM (GwxCX)

235 215 From "One of the dumbest moves" files:

Report: D.J. Cooper suspended by FIBA for faking drug test that revealed he was pregnant

His drug test, according to Eurohoops.net, revealed that he was pregnant.
The test on the urine that Cooper provided revealed the presence of human chorionic gonadotropin, or hCG, which is a hormone made by the placenta during pregnancy. That urine, per the report, actually belonged to his girlfriend — who likely didn’t know she was pregnant at the time.

https://tinyurl.com/4e294pp5
Posted by: rickb223
-------
Cooper should argue on the basis of cutting edge science that he identifies as a woman and certainly a woman can get pregnant.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:42 PM (9hLLz)

236 I'll take your turn, then.

Hey now, there is enough of me for everyone.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke welcoming the sailors coming into town on Fleet Week at July 28, 2023 02:42 PM (lc5cP)

237 223 210 This busty, bespectacled bikini blonde ~~resents that while she was born in something approximating a free country and never moved away, she now lives in a tyranny~~ is thinking "spend $20 on my OF page and I'll stick things in my orifices for your entertainment because I no longer have any standards".

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 28, 2023 02:42 PM (+Tqnv)

238
Might try hiring a good social worker on a gig basis to serve as advocate when you cannot. It is something that has worked for me to help care for a loved one at a distance.
Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:40 PM (9hLLz)

The hospital did assign one this time, which all they did was have some home health company reach out and schedule an interview.

We've got that in place, but no one will come out because of the bugs, which are now treated and nuked, but getting them to actually come out is a f*cking CHORE now.........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:42 PM (Zz0t1)

239 I guess it was so much more "exciting" then our collective peace and prosperity under Trump.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 28, 2023 02:40 PM (lc5cP)

It is the fear of being shunned.

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:43 PM (3j4i9)

240 What a f*cking disaster this whole thing has turned out to be......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:38 PM (Zz0t1)
++++
I'm sorry, Sponge.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 28, 2023 02:43 PM (t0OGg)

241 You assholes talking about early happy hour,

ITS NOT EVEN NOON ON THE WEST COAST AND I ALREADY HATE EVERYONE.

Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan! at July 28, 2023 02:43 PM (lEaEN)

242 It still amazes me how much Karens loved COVID, masking, and "we're all in this together".

Man I hated that slogan. STFU, no we're not.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:44 PM (GwxCX)

243 I don't knew which is more offensive:

That David French called this mere "jawboning" in a debate about facts.

Or that Romney excuses it as merely some people who happen to work for the government expressing their opinion.

Both of those cunts know full well that it's an "opinion" and a "debate" with all the coercion-free implications of two heavy-set Italians "discussing" how it would be a shame if the business burned down.
"Ay! Just having a friendly conversation with my friend here!"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 28, 2023 02:44 PM (yOSrm)

244 I click on the ones that don't say busty. Rarely steers me wrong.

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:44 PM (3j4i9)

245 Malinformation to the left of me, misinformation to the right, disinformation ahead...

Half a league, half a league, half a league onward...

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Gosh, just think of the terrible stress the censors must experience in dealing with this. I almost feel sorry for them...no, wait...I meant to say 'FOAD'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 28, 2023 02:44 PM (d9q+b)

246 It still amazes me how much Karens loved COVID, masking, and "we're all in this together".

I guess it was so much more "exciting" then our collective peace and prosperity under Trump.
Posted by: 18-1
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Most of them live pointless and empty lives because they lack meaningful relationships in life and any purpose serves as a substitute for religion.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:44 PM (9hLLz)

247 What a f*cking disaster this whole thing has turned out to be......
Posted by: Sponge

I feel for you. I'm sorry you are having to go thru this. I know it's not easy.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 28, 2023 02:45 PM (uiWTm)

248 " You assholes talking about early happy hour,

ITS NOT EVEN NOON ON THE WEST COAST AND I ALREADY HATE EVERYONE.

Posted by: nurse ratched"

You think it's all fun and games? My drug test just revealed I'm pregnant.

Posted by: eleven at July 28, 2023 02:45 PM (iziT8)

249 246 Most of them live pointless and empty lives because they lack meaningful relationships in life and any purpose serves as a substitute for religion.
Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:44 PM (9hLLz)

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"It's so disappointing that life in America today is so much more violent and far less friendly than it was in the 1950s. Of course I don't want to go back to that time, though, where people valued religion, family, and community. I have TikTok."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at July 28, 2023 02:45 PM (LvTSG)

250 It still amazes me how much Karens loved COVID, masking, and "we're all in this together".

Man I hated that slogan. STFU, no we're not.
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:44 PM (GwxCX)

This is OUR shot.....

Posted by: Noted Virologist John Legend at July 28, 2023 02:46 PM (Zz0t1)

251 BTW if Christians ever get back in power they should go along with this "misinformation" stuff and make anything that goes against Jesus illegal. He is the Truth - so let's do this shit, libs. Let's see how quick you fuckshits supposedly remember what Freedom of Speech is.
Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:12 PM (3j4i9)

I've been saying this for some time. Your religion has a heretical but ultimately positive view about Jesus? Ineligible to be citizens, no evangelism, otherwise tolerated. Don't believe in God? All of the above, plus extra taxes.

Openly reject Jesus Christ? Go to a country that still tolerates that. The Spanish Inquisition was far more tolerant and lenient than the Bloomberg DoJ, so we can go back to the reconquista standard.

Posted by: trev006 at July 28, 2023 02:46 PM (WVerd)

252

Off topic, but went out last night to the restaurant district and none of the establishments were flying the rainbow flag. None.

Don't know if it's the progress / traditional flag civil war or if they just aren't afraid of the gay gangsters anymore.

Posted by: Auspex at July 28, 2023 02:46 PM (j4U/Z)

253 The hospital did assign one this time, which all they did was have some home health company reach out and schedule an interview.

We've got that in place, but no one will come out because of the bugs, which are now treated and nuked, but getting them to actually come out is a f*cking CHORE now.........
Posted by: Sponge

We hired one independently. Social Security/VA have a lot of social workers with good credentials that work in the field. Licensed social workers also have the clout and duty to report misconduct they witness of medical and staff workers. That makes them an independent IG over other caregivers.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:47 PM (9hLLz)

254 I'm a big proponent of the government restricting the dissemination of false information, which is why I support laws telling government officials to shut up under pain of death.

Posted by: JSchuler at July 28, 2023 02:47 PM (l6eKM)

255 It's inevitable with Darwinism.

The vast majority of humanity are non-optimized "mistakes". They're going to need someone real smart to lead them.

There is no reason to have to hear from the lower 80% of humanity. We have Science. You don't need to form your own opinion.

Meanwhile, Christianity was about individual witness, and when Christians got tired of getting it wrong enough, they realized that each man should witness according to their conscience. The Christian faith required an individual confession of faith, and individual witness to the graces of faith.

Christian faith celebrates your individuality, you're a number under Darwin. (Whether or not Darwinism is true.)

Posted by: Axeman
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This needs re-posting because it's such an excellent observation.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The EPA has determined US has cooled since 1948 at July 28, 2023 02:47 PM (rGOL6)

256 You think it's all fun and games? My drug test just revealed I'm pregnant.
Posted by: eleven at July 28, 2023 02:45 PM

Mine revealed I have advanced long, infinity covid. I will miss you all greatly, cough, cough...goodb..

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:47 PM (GwxCX)

257
ITS NOT EVEN NOON ON THE WEST COAST AND I ALREADY HATE EVERYONE.
Posted by: nurse ratched, otter 841 superfan! at July 28, 2023 02:43 PM (lEaEN)

I'm so hard right now.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:48 PM (Zz0t1)

258
His drug test, according to Eurohoops.net, revealed that he was pregnant.
The test on the urine that Cooper provided revealed the presence of human chorionic gonadotropin, or hCG, which is a hormone made by the placenta during pregnancy. That urine, per the report, actually belonged to his girlfriend — who likely didn’t know she was pregnant at the time.

https://tinyurl.com/4e294pp5
Posted by: rickb223

==============

Wait a minute. Drug tests are only supposed to be testing for presence of specific drugs, right? Why were they testing for hCG? If there's some scientific explanation, okay, but I want to hear it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 28, 2023 02:48 PM (lCaJd)

259 Yea but............. Trump said Biden is a F**K Stick !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Frank N. Stien at July 28, 2023 02:48 PM (9e2kV)

260 234 Boebert AND Mace?

OK, what'd I miss?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 28, 2023 02:48 PM (xTRSc)

261 Anyone watching so-called Justified?

What a disappointment that is.
Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:31 PM (3j4i9)

Raylan needs the supporting cast.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 28, 2023 02:48 PM (aD39U)

262 FB sucks.
It just had a pop up for me suggesting sites I might be interested in.
Famous graves.
WTF???

Posted by: Diogenes at July 28, 2023 02:49 PM (e4fEA)

263
We hired one independently. Social Security/VA have a lot of social workers with good credentials that work in the field. Licensed social workers also have the clout and duty to report misconduct they witness of medical and staff workers. That makes them an independent IG over other caregivers.
Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:47 PM (9hLLz)

Advise: Taken.

Thanks. We're also working with the VA trying to get them involved with all this as well.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at July 28, 2023 02:49 PM (Zz0t1)

264 .... wasn't Nick Clegg the leader of the LibDem party that shared the prime ministership with Cameron?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 28, 2023 02:49 PM (9UlRk)

265 Glasses are obviously for show, indicating that she has serious problems with her self___.

2/10

Would not bang.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at July 28, 2023 02:39 PM (

I will never have the opportunity.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at July 28, 2023 02:49 PM (VdGjU)

266 "It's so disappointing that life in America today is so much more violent and far less friendly than it was in the 1950s. Of course I don't want to go back to that time, though, where people valued religion, family, and community. I have TikTok."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Succinct summary of their viewpoint. They also are usually ignorant of any history and actual human behavioral patterns because solipsism prevents it.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:49 PM (9hLLz)

267
Off topic, but went out last night to the restaurant district and none of the establishments were flying the rainbow flag. None.

Don't know if it's the progress / traditional flag civil war or if they just aren't afraid of the gay gangsters anymore.
Posted by: Auspex

============

Well, we're onto another Month now. What is it, America First month because it includes the 4th of July? Maybe that explains the absence of flags -- any flags.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 28, 2023 02:49 PM (lCaJd)

268 264 .... wasn't Nick Clegg the leader of the LibDem party that shared the prime ministership with Cameron?
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Yes.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:49 PM (9hLLz)

269 It was such a shame.. President Trump had accomplished so many great and wonderful things by the time covid was unleashed. Even his covid response was stellar.
Imagine the power it took to create and spread covid. Imagine the power it took to steal the 2020 election.
Imagine the power it took to create the rigged Jan 6 fiasco.
Trump is facing prison time.
This all happened in 3.5 years.
The question is what's next to come down the pike These commie bastards ain't playing and I'm wondering what in the end game.

Posted by: I'm Gumby. Damn It! at July 28, 2023 02:49 PM (wc4JG)

270 Aren't there "settled " SCOTUS decisions making this censorship by proxy illegal? Can the law hold individuals accountable?

Posted by: JM in Florida -- now in IllinoisI at July 28, 2023 02:50 PM (xqeeH)

271 "I am reaching out because we are in the process of updating our analysis of TheFederalist.com and I have a few questions about the content published on the site. I am also attaching our currently-published analysis of The Federalist for your reference."

IOW: "Hi there. As you can, we're trying to be your new editors now. If you're dumb enough, you'll respond affirmatively to our suggestions."

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at July 28, 2023 02:50 PM (aXxgO)

272 I wonder if Nancy Mace is getting a little afternoon delight right now?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 28, 2023 02:50 PM (3nSG+)

273 I be just gots my 10th COVID boostir and prouds thats I am protecting the peeple arounds me from the Trump OVID Pandedemeic. Whats has you done to protect the childrin ???

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at July 28, 2023 02:50 PM (hSa/7)

274 I wonder if Nancy Mace is getting a little afternoon delight right now?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 28, 2023 02:50 PM (3nSG+)
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You'll have to wait for a prayer breakfast to find out.

Posted by: Axeman at July 28, 2023 02:51 PM (krQz2)

275 Thanks. We're also working with the VA trying to get them involved with all this as well.
Posted by: Sponge
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Good. The well connected veteran independent social workers versus the ones in big organizations are usually very competent at knowing where the bodies are buried in the medical and care industry and how to push their buttons to get better care.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:51 PM (9hLLz)

276 I wonder what the biggest offer ace has been offered for his blog.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 28, 2023 02:52 PM (+Tqnv)

277 158...Here's how that Venn diagram looks:

O
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 28, 2023 02:29 PM (wzAuc)

I LOVE the venn-ness of Venn Diagrams!

Posted by: Commie-la H at July 28, 2023 02:52 PM (Rbu5d)

278 TJM, who cares if the glasses are for show? Glasses are sexy. (See Nancy Mace in the UFO hearing yesterday.)

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 28, 2023 02:52 PM (xTRSc)

279 I wonder if Nancy Mace is getting a little afternoon delight right now?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 28, 2023 02:50 PM (3nSG+)

You gotta laugh. You just know that every time she is late for anything now, the jokes will start.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 28, 2023 02:53 PM (e4fEA)

280 207 You know how you know your new friend is a vegan?

Wait 3 seconds.
Posted by: eleven at July 28, 2023 02:36 PM (iziT

Oh, I can beat that time, easy!

Posted by: New Crossfitter friend at July 28, 2023 02:53 PM (PiwSw)

281 It's so disappointing that life in America today is so much more violent and far less friendly than it was in the 1950s. Of course I don't want to go back to that time, though, where people valued religion, family, and community. I have TikTok.

There's no escaping that I'm a dinosaur. I'd almost give anything to return to those days. Alas, not meant to be. Guess I'll do the best I can with the time I have left.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 28, 2023 02:53 PM (Xrfse)

282 270 Aren't there "settled " SCOTUS decisions making this censorship by proxy illegal? Can the law hold individuals accountable?
Posted by: JM in Florida

Yes and at least one court of appeals (the 8th I think) have held purposeful actions by administrators that limit freedom of speech are personally liable with no immunity. In other words, do an intentional wrong that you know is illegal and then your qualified immunity is no more against losing your own house, pension, etc.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:53 PM (9hLLz)

283 Meanwhile, Christianity was about individual witness, and when Christians got tired of getting it wrong enough, they realized that each man should witness according to their conscience. The Christian faith required an individual confession of faith, and individual witness to the graces of faith.

Christian faith celebrates your individuality, you're a number under Darwin. (Whether or not Darwinism is true.)
Posted by: Axeman at July 28, 2023 02:33 PM (krQz2)

This is only true if you only study the last two hundred years of American history. Many of the Founders either had zero problem with blasphemy laws or would keep silent about them. The Church of England was very proactive about stealing from rival sects, and Europe was riven by decades of religious wars.

Arguably the most dogmatic version of Christianity is also the one that unified Europe, took Spain back from the Moors, and developed countless contributions to art and science.

Posted by: trev006 at July 28, 2023 02:54 PM (WVerd)

284 Edit - "Hi there. As you can see...

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at July 28, 2023 02:54 PM (aXxgO)

285 I wonder what the biggest offer ace has been offered for his blog.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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Same as in town.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 28, 2023 02:54 PM (S5P0o)

286 Report: D.J. Cooper suspended...

********

What happened, his parachute got hung up in a tree?

Posted by: Muldoon at July 28, 2023 02:55 PM (zLLgI)

287 I believe I saw a poll that said a slight majority of all Americans now does not believe in the first amendment.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 28, 2023 02:55 PM (lTGtQ)

288 Imagine Democrats... *Democrats*... saying it should be illegal to tell lies.

Even their shamelessness is shameless.

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:55 PM (3j4i9)

289 278 TJM, who cares if the glasses are for show? Glasses are sexy. (See Nancy Mace in the UFO hearing yesterday.)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 28, 2023 02:52 PM (xTRSc)

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Dolley's are not for show. Dolley's are to indicate her high intelligence (and terrible farsightedness).

Dolley is far sexier. Would bang.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, contemplating utopia with Peter Weir at July 28, 2023 02:56 PM (LvTSG)

290 Maybe there is still a lost Confederate colony in Brazil we can flee to?

Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2023 02:56 PM (ywVDE)

291 What happened, his parachute got hung up in a tree?
Posted by: Muldoon at July 28, 2023 02:55 PM

First thing I thought of. LOL.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:56 PM (GwxCX)

292 Wifey hates the Twitter name change. Says it looks like an x-rated app on her iPod home page.

I pointed out that the Twitter brand was severely damaged when it was exposed as a government op by Musk.

Posted by: Regular joe. Not just mad, Samuel L Jackson mad at July 28, 2023 02:56 PM (nnp+f)

293 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 28, 2023 02:42 PM (+Tqnv)

I admit it; Iaughed. Welcome to team snark.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 28, 2023 02:56 PM (Keyt1)

294 Raylan needs the supporting cast.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 28, 2023 02:48 PM (aD39U)

He needs the writing from the original show and he's barely in this show except to get lectured by his mopey daughter and black people.

He already promised her he would "do better". All that was missing was her telling him to "do better".

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:57 PM (3j4i9)

295 Christian faith celebrates your individuality, you're a number under Darwin. (Whether or not Darwinism is true.)

Posted by: Axeman
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This needs re-posting because it's such an excellent observation.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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I agree.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:57 PM (9hLLz)

296 Imagine Democrats... *Democrats*... saying it should be illegal to tell lies.

Even their shamelessness is shameless.
Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:55 PM (3j4i9)
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Especially when (I think it was) Dick Durbin defended his 1st amendment right to lie about getting medals. Which was approved by the courts.

Posted by: Axeman at July 28, 2023 02:57 PM (krQz2)

297 Crossfitter vegans must be a nightmare.

Posted by: eleven at July 28, 2023 02:58 PM (iziT8)

298 289 By the way, did Dolley ever put on a nurse uniform the other day?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 28, 2023 02:58 PM (xTRSc)

299
ITS NOT EVEN NOON ON THE WEST COAST AND I ALREADY HATE EVERYONE.
Posted by: nurse ratched

In 2 minutes it is NOON... you can start drinking in 2 minutes.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 28, 2023 02:58 PM (zoXTr)

300 If Christians don't shut the heathens up, Christians will be the ones being shut up. Dog eat dog.

Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:58 PM (3j4i9)

301 272 I wonder if Nancy Mace is getting a little afternoon delight right now?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 28, 2023 02:50 PM (3nSG+)

--It's a Friday and she's a federal employee.

Add it up.

Posted by: logprof at July 28, 2023 02:58 PM (ywVDE)

302 I had a day off of work today and started partaking of liquid libations an hour ago. That will be my "stupid shit that BFD said" disclaimer for the rest of the afternoon/evening.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 28, 2023 02:58 PM (Xrfse)

303 Tattoos, no.
Nice rack, yes.
Pr0n glasses, yes.

*feeds data into computer*
*Clicking, whirring, beeping*

"Signs point to One."

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 28, 2023 02:59 PM (ufFY8)

304 Dog eat dog.
Posted by: ... at July 28, 2023 02:58 PM (3j4i9)

Hey, save some for me!

Posted by: Barry Obama at July 28, 2023 03:00 PM (iG1Nf)

305 287 I believe I saw a poll that said a slight majority of all Americans now does not believe in the first amendment.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
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One such poll was taken via college students at North Dakota I think.

A lot of the current millennials and gen Z have been carefully radicalized in school about the need to control hate speech that makes people feel bad and that hate speech borders keep getting enlarged (sorry fat people).

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 03:00 PM (9hLLz)

306 I wonder if Nancy Mace is getting a little afternoon delight right now?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 28, 2023 02:50 PM (3nSG+)

You gotta laugh. You just know that every time she is late for anything now, the jokes will start.
Posted by: Diogenes

I'm sure she can "ride" them out.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 28, 2023 03:00 PM (uiWTm)

307 nood

Posted by: eleven at July 28, 2023 03:01 PM (iziT8)

308 I believe I saw a poll that said a slight majority of all Americans now does not believe in the first amendment.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

They will shit themselves when we use the 2nd to enforce the 1st.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 28, 2023 03:01 PM (uiWTm)

309 Christian faith celebrates your individuality, you're a number under Darwin.

Which is another way of stating that the world has two predominant world-views:

Imago Dei vs Lebensunwertes Leben

("Image of God" / "Life Unworthy of Life")

If of the former, then each person has value and purpose in the sight of the LORD, we treat others according to God's Rules. Truth is transcendent and not man originated.

When the latter, its Might Make Right and everyone else is diseased livestock and treated accordingly. Truth is whatever side is most violent.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 28, 2023 03:01 PM (p8A+W)

310 I'm sure she can "ride" them out.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 28, 2023 03:00 PM (uiWTm)

She sure didn't the other day.

Posted by: Mace's blue-balled 'fiance' at July 28, 2023 03:02 PM (ufFY8)

311 New thread on illegal workers' wages, and other items. NOOD

Posted by: gdgm+ at July 28, 2023 03:02 PM (Mvc4R)

312 296 Imagine Democrats... *Democrats*... saying it should be illegal to tell lies.

Even their shamelessness is shameless.
Posted by: ...
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Even around 40 percent of GOP in the cited poll agree though--they just disagree about what should be censored. A fair chunk of the people believe that their right is protected but others are saying stuff that should be silenced and even criminalized.

Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 03:02 PM (9hLLz)

313 Am looking for an ophthalmologist and one recommended to me by a doctor I know had a form for new patient intake. It asked whether received a Covid vaccine and "how many times boosted."
F*ck him and the immune-deficient horse he rode in on. I'll find someone else.
Posted by: Zek at July 28, 2023 02:25 PM (5FPX4)

That's SOP. If the ophthalmologist has a good rep, call back and tell the truth. Odds are pretty good that it's pro forma now. I did get the Pfizer shots (no boosters) and getting the cataract surgery appointments were scheduled (one down and one to go).

Posted by: mrp at July 28, 2023 03:04 PM (rj6Yv)

314 242... "we're all in this together".

Man I hated that slogan. STFU, no we're not.
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 28, 2023 02:44 PM (GwxCX)

[fistbumb]Every time I saw one while driving around, I'd yell "no we're not." And then those "heroes work here" : no, they're not!

Posted by: Commie-la H at July 28, 2023 03:04 PM (Rbu5d)

315 well there was about 4200 guys in a Roman legion, so I guess we can start saying they are hiring "legions of new IRS agents".

Posted by: Glyph2406 at July 28, 2023 03:05 PM (Gc8JM)

316 Maybe there is still a lost Confederate colony in Brazil we can flee to?
Posted by: logprof
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Liberia?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 28, 2023 03:06 PM (HsC66)

317

I just started seeing these law firm commercials for Ozempic and Wegovy.

Posted by: Cheri at July 28, 2023 03:07 PM (oiNtH)

318 213 hospitals don't like to hold patients over the weekend, so they dump em on Friday afternoon. What hospital was your dad in? And does this mean he's better?

Posted by: Regular joe. Not just mad, Samuel L Jackson mad at July 28, 2023 03:10 PM (nnp+f)

319 [fistbumb]Every time I saw one while driving around, I'd yell "no we're not." And then those "heroes work here" : no, they're not!
Posted by: Commie-la H

Amen. We are not all in this together. Some are in rickety row-boats, some in a motorboat, some barely hanging on to a life-ring, and the top % are on yachts laughing at the rest of us. As far as heroes, work in a hospital or other healthcare entity and you would alternate between nausea and rage at all of the hero worship towards Doctors and Nurses that was going around.

Posted by: Cheri at July 28, 2023 03:12 PM (oiNtH)

320 And then those "heroes work here" : no, they're not!

My favorite from the nadir of covid was seeing a 20 foot long "Heroes work here" banner outside of a funeral home.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 28, 2023 03:18 PM (nfrXX)

321 NewsGuard = Goon Squad

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They Don't Kill at July 28, 2023 03:18 PM (0q+t6)

322 2 things
One, delete Facebook

Two, when can I sign up for the class action lawsuit against Andy Slavitt and Facebook?

Posted by: Joe kidtoucher at July 28, 2023 03:21 PM (W+TLY)

323 He needs the writing from the original show and he's barely in this show except to get lectured by his mopey daughter and black people.

He already promised her he would "do better". All that was missing was her telling him to "do better".
Posted by: ...

Damn. I saw that it came out and was going to watch this weekend. Sounds awful.

Posted by: Biergood at July 28, 2023 03:24 PM (FQWHA)

324 Tell them you are registered to vote in two states and you are wondering which state in vote in.
Posted by: whig at July 28, 2023 02:16 PM (9hLLz)

Then, for your convenience, they will vote for you in the other state.

Posted by: db at July 28, 2023 03:29 PM (wu87C)

325 Always the second question should be:

Who gets to decide what's false?

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