Attendance at Disney Parks Hits Lowest Level in a Decade

From the WSJ, but quoted at Hot Air:

Travel analysts and advisers say traffic to Disney's U.S. parks, and some rival parks, has slowed this summer. Data from a travel company that tracks line-waiting time at Walt Disney World in Orlando, Fla., shows that the Independence Day weekend was one of the slowest in nearly a decade. ...
Travel advisers and industry analysts say the slowdown is the latest sign that Disney's recent price hikes and changes to park operations have soured some families on visiting the Most Magical Place on Earth.

Well, no. At least part of the big increase in park ticket prices was imposed to make up for the fact that attendance was down.

And of course, attendance is down because Disney decided to abandon the entire selling point of its brand -- that parents could trust it implicitly, and let their kids watch Disney programming without worrying about anything objectionable appearing in it -- in order to pursue Disney's Not-So-Secret Gay Agenda, as one Woke Advisor in Disney's Woke "Reimagine Tomorrow' propaganda unit called it.

Jim Geraghty also says that Disney made a conscious decision to kiss-off middle class families to pitch itself as a resort for wealthy families.

And not just wealthy families, of course: Wealthy leftwing families.

The current ticket prices for Walt Disney World and its related theme parks are as follows:
Disney's Animal Kingdom: $109-$159
Disney's Hollywood Studios: $124-$179
EPCOT: $114-$179
Magic Kingdom: $124-$189
By comparison, in 2013, a ticket to the Magic Kingdom was $95. Adjusted for inflation, that is the equivalent of $125.46 today. (Inflation-adjusted prices were generated using the Bureau of Labor Statistics inflation calculator.)
In 2003, a ticket to the Magic Kingdom was $52. Adjusted for inflation, that is the equivalent of $87.04 today.
In 1993, a ticket to the Magic Kingdom was $35. Adjusted for inflation, that is the equivalent of $74.65 today.

In 1983, a ticket to the Magic Kingdom was $17. Adjusted for inflation, that is the equivalent of $52.86 today.
In other words, it's not just your imagination and it's not just inflation; a ticket to Disney World has grown considerably more expensive.
A wild overestimation of how much customers were willing to spend was probably a big factor in the surprise closure of the Star Wars-themed "Galactic Starcruiser" attraction at the Epcot Resort Area.

At some point, Disney leadership embraced a strategy of attracting a smaller but wealthier clientele when it comes to the company's theme parks. That's their right as a business, but as we see above, eventually you run out of fabulously wealthy families.
The world only has so many parents willing to spend $4,800 to $6,000 to hang around with Star Wars characters for two days. Just how often did Disney think these families would come back and spend another $6,000 or so to have the same experience again?
Disney built its image on family friendly entertainment, and for years, a middle-class family could save up for a trip to Disney World. Now, a day at the park for a family of 4 costs, at minimum, just under $500. That's just to get in the door -- no meals, lodging, souvenirs.

Corporations generally have become disdainful of the middle class. The upper eschelons of the corporate class are, for all intents and purposes, an insular aristocracy, with shared backgrounds, educations, tastes, and mores.

And these narcissistic idiots have decided that they will make their products only for their fellow aristocrats -- even when their product has always been made for the middle or working classes.

Geraghty sees the same connection:

Disney was never cheap, but it also wasn't considered a luxury brand, reserved for the wealthy. It wasn't Ralph Lauren, Tiffany, Brooks Brothers, or Cadillac. Its brand was middle-class middle America, literally naming the entrance, "Main Street USA."
While Disney's movies, television shows, and ubiquitous merchandise are purchased by customers from all walks of life, you can make a strong case that the theme-park aspect of Disney is indeed now a luxury brand.
The Disney theme parks just aren't as interested in attracting middle-class America to come through the doors.
I cannot help but suspect that Disney's theme parks evolving into a luxury company catering to the world's wealthiest clienteles is intertwined with the company's evolution into an institution with an increasingly outspoken progressive cultural agenda.

The weird thing is: Progressives aren't wealthier than conservatives.

But corporations keep chasing the wealthy progressives and disdaining the middle class (and wealthy conservatives).

Bud Light just did this, insanely, despite being a downscale brand.

Movies keep doing this, despite movies having historically been a cheap entertainment for the masses (compared to live plays and concerts) which traditionally featured a populist, not elitist, ethos.

And we see this with TV channels. NBC made a decision in the 80s to court an "urban, sophisticated audience," and leave the Disgusting Normies for other channels. CNN also has pretensions of being the "upper class" highly partisan talking heads channels.

They keep pushing their AWFL (Affluent White Female Liberal) values in their advertising and products because they think the Disgusting Normies have no other choice but to keep on buying.

If actual luxury brands like Rolex don't see the need of appealing to well-heeled leftists through tasteless, tacky political messaging, why do non-luxury brands like Tranheuser-Busch and Disney?

It might be due to a very common human failing: Those who are not actually In the Club are the most desperate to show they should be In the Club.

Disney's top AWFL, Kathleen Kennedy, is at long last learning that it takes more to be In the Club then some sweaty, desperate Aristocracy Signaling.

Her latest disaster dropped 56% in its second weekend. That's not great when you already opened at a low level.

The long-awaited sequel Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny is finally playing in theaters. Unfortunately, Disney's newly-released Indiana Jones continuation appears to have bombed at the box office.
In fact, the film only opened with $130 million worldwide, which is less than the $139 million that the box office bomb The Flash managed to earn. Furthermore, the Indiana Jones sequel is said to have cost more than $300 million to make with marketing costs, while The Flash was estimated at $250 million. Either way, both films appear to be box office bombs, with the fifth Indiana Jones film making even less at the box office so far.

Kathleen Kennedy -- who WDW_Pro calls "Kaffeine Kennedy," because her real job with Steven Spielberg and George Lucas was fetching coffee for the talent -- just saw an Indiana Jones movie lose its second weekend to the fifth installment of a mid-tier horror franchise.

Indiana Jones cost $322+ million.

Insidious: The Red Door cost... $16 million. Sixteen.

It's all hands on deck at Disney for Kaffeine Kennedy's latest bomb. They even pressured Harrison Ford to make a personal appeal for the movie, like Jim Caviezel made for The Sound of Freedom.

Except Caviezel's appeal was about exposing a great social evil.

Harrison Ford, who smokes more pot than JackStraw, is reduced to babbling that this movie was made "for the fans."

A special message from Harrison Ford. #IndianaJones pic.twitter.com/ROkhJqockj
— Indiana Jones (@IndianaJones) July 8, 2023

Not exactly the same as saying "see our movie to raise awareness of child trafficking."

I haven't enjoyed any of Harrison Ford's recent work:

Director James Mangold took a page from the usual Disney Failure Playbook, which is to blame the failure of a woke Disney film on "divisive" fans.

Speaking with The Hollywood Reporter, Mangold was asked by Brian Davids, "Life is filled with peaks and valleys, and I appreciate when my fictional heroes, such as Indy, have their own ups and downs. So why does a segment of the audience seem to want these legacy characters to be infallible? I just can't figure out why anyone would want such little drama."

Um, why are the female self-inserts infallible?

Indiana Jones was never infallible. One of the best parts of the character was that he was competent, but not hypercompetent -- he was almost always over his head and just barely getting away with it.

No one is demanding he be "infallible."

What people are complaining about is 1, Indiana Jones movies have usually been feel-good optimistic popcorn rides, not dour, depressing dramas about 80-year-old men who will die alone and as failures, while meanwhile, 2, yet another Kaffeine Kennedy female self-insert is presented as infallible and once again Just Like the Male Hero, Except Better At Everything So You Should Like Her Even More Than the (Spit) Old White Male Hero, Misogynist Bigots.

Disney keeps doing the same thing. Even if we liked it the first time -- and we didn't -- we're entitled to be officially sick of it the fifth time it's done.

Mangold replied, "Well, there's a point where these characters become symbols more than characters, and so there becomes this anxiety that if you examine the humanity of a hero, you somehow weaken them."

Newsflash: If you're making an Indian Jones action-adventure movie and you think the appeal of the film should be "examining the humanity of a hero" -- deconstructing him -- tear up your first draft and start again.

...
Mangold then accused critics of his deconstruction of being divisive when it was his and Lucasfilm's choice to deconstruct Indiana Jones in the first place.
He said, "So, if people want to be divisive [in the age of social media], they can focus on where a character starts, as opposed to where they end, or they can focus on where they end, as opposed to where they start."

In other Indiana Jones movies, he started off a hero and ended up a hero. His moments of trying were due to the plot, the enemies opposing him, and the crazy circumstances in which he found himself. In this movie, he starts off as a broke-down loser and ends as a broke-down loser. In the middle he is tested by the obnoxious feminism of Phloebag.

Reportedly, Disney "Plus" just got overtaken by HBO's streaming service, "Max."

While the Disney Plus streaming service has been one of the dominant forces in the market since it landed, it was just bumped down in subscriber numbers by one of its biggest rivals, Max. The Warner Bros Discovery-owned streaming service formerly known as HBO Max has overtaken Disney Plus (per 9to5Mac) in market share, knocking it down to the fourth most-popular slot among major platforms.
Even more worryingly for the House of Mouse and its proprietary streaming service, not only did Warner Bros' Max actually gain market share in order to leap up the ranks and overtake them, but Disney Plus also simultaneously lost market share. Basically, it got beat in both directions on this one.

Meanwhile, Bob Iger -- the man who destroyed Disney buy spending almost $100 billion to buy Marvel, Lucasfilm, Pixar, and 20th Century Fox, and then destroyed them all by turning Disney into a propaganda outfit for the hard sexual left -- says that he wants a contract extension because he's just so critical for turning Disney around.

Some of the guys I listen to, like "Mexican Iron Man," point out that Norman Peltz only called off his proxy fight with Disney on the condition that 1, Iger would depart within 18 months, and 2, Disney would start paying dividends to shareholders instead of putting its cash in a vault, or being used for Iger's demented drive to buy every other movie studio.

Well, now Iger is saying he wants to stay another year, and there's no way Disney will be paying any dividends any time soon.

So, will Nelson Peltz re-mount his proxy fight?

By the way: Biden's/Merrick Garland's DOJ just decided that child trafficking was No Big Deal:

The Department of Justice erased content from its webpage on child sex trafficking that highlighted the plight of "international sex trafficking of minors" in late May.
The stunning revision comes amidst scrutiny of President Joe Biden's continued incitement of mass migration via America's porous southern border -- a prime avenue for child sex trafficking -- and also coincides with the recent release of the film "The Sound of Freedom."
The Department of Justice's (DOJ) webpage chronicling what constitutes child sex trafficking and how the department is combatting it underwent severe revisions on May 12th, 2023, including the erasure of the three sections: "International Sex Trafficking of Minors"; "Domestic Sex Trafficking of Minors," and "Child Victims of Prostitution."

Jewel complains of Hollywood politicizing child trafficking:

It saddens me that some media is trying to politicize this movie. This is not left or right. It�s about millions of kids being trafficked, and no matter what your faith or creed, we need to protect all the vulnerable kids rather than fight over philosophical differences. pic.twitter.com/aKjCtUlmi3
— Jewel (@jeweljk) July 10, 2023

I now respect Jewell too much to point out that her breasts are like untamed mustangs thundering across the verdant plains. I'll just leave that implied.

Someone -- forget who -- pointed something out about The Sound of Freedom that Hollywood wouldn't like.

Minor spoiler here. Stop reading if you don't know about the main operation depicted in the movie and want to remain completely unspoiled.

In the movie, Ballard (Caviezel's character) gets the idea to set up a fake "sex club" so that traffickers will just deliver him the children he wants to save. He gets this idea from a newspaper article, which features some financier being arrested for setting up his own "sex club" involving underage children.

While the movie fictionalized that particular incident sex club headline, it has been pointed out that the real inspiration for the sting was... Jeffrey Epstein. Apparently the film avoided using that name because, well, I guess Hollywood doesn't want to talk about Jeffrey Epstein. They made up a similar financier who operated an illegal sex club.

Is it a coincidence that the sting in the movie takes place on... an island supposedly set up as a sex club?

Posted by: Ace at 03:55 PM

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1 Burn mouse, burn.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 11, 2023 03:56 PM (N1DT3)

2 not sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 03:57 PM (LvTSG)

3 Wow, that's a lot of content. It'll be a while, it seems.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 11, 2023 03:57 PM (N1DT3)

4 Were they assuming that wealthier families will buy more merch, so if they can fill the parks with wealthier families they'll make more per family than if they kept prices lower?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 03:58 PM (LvTSG)

5 Burn, Disney.

I'm here for that.

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2023 03:58 PM (iziT8)

6 I thought Disney Plus was going to Hulu. Or did I dream that?

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2023 03:59 PM (DRSnL)

7 Disregard me @ 6. I'm stupid.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2023 03:59 PM (DRSnL)

8 Die Mouse! DIE!

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2023 03:59 PM (xhxe8)

9 I have a fever dream where Peyton Manning buys ESPN and they go back to sports.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 11, 2023 03:59 PM (z+89e)

10 In other Indiana Jones movies, he started off a hero and ended up a hero. His moments of trying were due to the plot, the enemies opposing him, and the crazy circumstances in which he found himself. In this movie, he starts off as a broke-down loser and ends as a broke-down loser. In the middle he is tested by the obnoxious feminism of Phloebag.

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They were serials, and that was the appeal.

Hero archetype goes on adventures.

And people had problems with Lucas pushing the archetype hero into scifi with Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:00 PM (LvTSG)

11 How many decent cells in The Lincoln Project collectively?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at July 11, 2023 04:00 PM (VdGjU)

12 Meanwhile, Bob Iger -- the man who destroyed Disney buy spending almost $100 billion to buy Marvel, Lucasfilm, Pixar, and 20th Century Fox, and then destroyed them all by turning Disney into a propaganda outfit for the hard sexual left -- says that he wants a contract extension because he's just so critical for turning Disney around.

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They did undercut his chosen replacement to bring him back, even though Chapek was just managing all of Iger's decisions going into effect.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:00 PM (LvTSG)

13 No, Mr Mouse. I want you to die.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2023 04:02 PM (ZLI7S)

14 And of course, attendance is down because Disney decided to abandon the entire selling point of its brand -- that parents could trust it implicitly, and let their kids watch Disney programming without worrying about anything objectionable appearing in it -- in order to pursue Disney's Not-So-Secret Gay Agenda, as one Woke Advisor in Disney's Woke "Reimagine Tomorrow' propaganda unit called it.
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In part. They have been slowly abandoning (well, not catering to) their traditional market: families. They're aggressively going after the childless adult Disney fan who might have a spouse or a girlfriend/boyfriend/fuckbuddy.

But those people, even if they live large at Disney, is probably not going to spend as much as a family and is also probably going to drink more - which make the family experience worse.

Disney is *not* a family company anymore, and it's showing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:02 PM (t0OGg)

15 "Movies keep doing this, despite movies having historically been a cheap entertainment for the masses (compared to live plays and concerts) which traditionally featured a populist, not elitist, ethos."

I think this hits upon it.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 11, 2023 04:02 PM (eYoxG)

16 I haven't been to Disney world in over 20 years.

Posted by: dantesed at July 11, 2023 04:03 PM (193FS)

17 Mangold replied, "Well, there's a point where these characters become symbols more than characters, and so there becomes this anxiety that if you examine the humanity of a hero, you somehow weaken them."
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Some people will never get over that C+ they got from the fat, smelly, un-wed ogre that taught English 101 and never do stop trying to please her.

It ain't a fucking book club, bud-- it's a popcorn movie. Go make porn with that towering intellect-- they'll understand depth of character better.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 11, 2023 04:03 PM (s6HkY)

18 @3: "[CNN] keep pushing their AWFL (Affluent White Female Liberal) values in their advertising and products because they think the Disgusting Normies have no other choice but to keep on buying."

I've come around to thinking that CNN's advertisers aren't actually paying for future customers and sales. It's not commercial advertising in any traditional sense.

Massive corporations are willfully subsidizing CNN's point of view in order to maintain the illusion of an upwardly mobile polite society that says and does all the right things.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 11, 2023 04:04 PM (k1Qly)

19 Ah, this was SOMEWHAT of a movie review. That explains the length.

Ok, it mentions movies. Close enough.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 11, 2023 04:04 PM (N1DT3)

20 Corporations generally have become disdainful of the middle class. The upper eschelons of the corporate class are, for all intents and purposes, an insular aristocracy, with shared backgrounds, educations, tastes, and mores.

And these narcissistic idiots have decided that they will make their products only for their fellow aristocrats -- even when their product has always been made for the middle or working classes.
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Yup. Or even non-aristocratic but "cool" people like a late 20-something woman with a boyfriend who want to go to Disney World.

But the normal, workaday family types? Scum of the earth. Fuck those guys.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:04 PM (t0OGg)

21 I don't get why people would go to Disney at any price point, but the current prices are ridiculous for middle-class people.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at July 11, 2023 04:04 PM (ppBhU)

22 15 "Movies keep doing this, despite movies having historically been a cheap entertainment for the masses (compared to live plays and concerts) which traditionally featured a populist, not elitist, ethos."

I think this hits upon it.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 11, 2023 04:02 PM (eYoxG)

The most charitable attitude you can assign them is "Screw the masses, we want Prestige!"

But you have to ignore all the sinister deviant sexual shit in order to be that charitable.

Posted by: XTC at July 11, 2023 04:05 PM (UnA8+)

23 "Well, I'll still be going to Disney World because I want a tranny to dress my child as a princess"

Said no one.

Posted by: Dark Force Thirsting For Power at July 11, 2023 04:05 PM (QY+6a)

24 Oh, for those who care- Slushies are free at 7-11 today.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 11, 2023 04:05 PM (N1DT3)

25 And we see this with TV channels. NBC made a decision in the 80s to court an "urban, sophisticated audience," and leave the Disgusting Normies for other channels. CNN also has pretensions of being the "upper class" highly partisan talking heads channels.

They keep pushing their AWFL (Affluent White Female Liberal) values in their advertising and products because they think the Disgusting Normies have no other choice but to keep on buying.
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They hate their customers.

Well, the feeling is mutual.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:05 PM (t0OGg)

26 burn, Disney, burn

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:05 PM (xcxpd)

27 I mean, they are still doing pretty good, 10 years ago wasn't terrible attendance. But yeah they are hurting. The prices are utterly outrageous, and the crowds there are really thin; wait times are way down like its off season.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:05 PM (0hOvj)

28 Harrison Ford looks like he's being bled by leaches.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at July 11, 2023 04:05 PM (ppBhU)

29 Has Harrison Ford been vaxxinated, and boosted, and boosted?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2023 04:06 PM (llON8)

30 Sorry, but an aging Harrison Ford talking about how honored he was to play a fictional character does NOT compare to the quiet, passionate intensity of Jim Caviezel, a devoutly religious man, talking about the evils of child trafficking.

There's simply no comparison between the two.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2023 04:06 PM (YIVH2)

31 Wow. Someone Hollywood adjacent wanting to stop child trafficking?

How has Jewel not previously been unpersoned by the left?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 11, 2023 04:06 PM (N1DT3)

32 29 Has Harrison Ford been vaxxinated, and boosted, and boosted?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2023 04:06 PM (llON

And had his weekly Estradiol shot?

Posted by: XTC at July 11, 2023 04:06 PM (UnA8+)

33 Harrison Ford is reduced to babbling that this movie was made "for the fans."
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Given how fans have responded to it, that seems to be either untrue or it's true but they failed miserably.

I like Indiana Jones. I am not a fan, but I liked the movies. I definitely skipped this one. I had decided to skip this one well before I saw any reviews or coverage of it. I decided to skip it for two reasons:
1. Disney
2. Phoebe Waller-Bridge

Either of those in isolation means it's a good bet that it is going to suck. Both of those together means that suckage is guarateed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:07 PM (t0OGg)

34 We took the daughter, son in law and four grandkids to Disney World just before all this woke shit started. One week at the Disney properties, guide for only one day, tickets, food, etc. - a bit over $30,000. Never again.

Posted by: jwest at July 11, 2023 04:07 PM (VP9ao)

35 Weren't we just talking about killing rodents?

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2023 04:07 PM (v0R5T)

36 Disney is *not* a family company anymore, and it's showing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:02 PM (t0OGg)
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It says a lot about the company that Las Vegas seems more family-friendly these days...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2023 04:07 PM (YIVH2)

37 Speaking with The Hollywood Reporter, Mangold was asked by Brian Davids, "Life is filled with peaks and valleys, and I appreciate when my fictional heroes, such as Indy, have their own ups and downs. So why does a segment of the audience seem to want these legacy characters to be infallible? I just can't figure out why anyone would want such little drama."
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Because "blame the audience" has worked oh so well this far...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:07 PM (t0OGg)

38 So far Disney is my only personal boycott that is effecting me right now. I’m waiting until Guardians of the Galaxy III comes on TV before I watch it.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:07 PM (MNhXM)

39 I guess they need to go Pride Summer, to make up for the families with children not going to see the Mouse.

Posted by: Bete at July 11, 2023 04:07 PM (PYoBO)

40 Mangold is an idiot and an ass. He has pretentious he cannot deliver on in film, themes he's thinking he puts in them that he utterly fails in, then he attacks the fans. He's the kind of guy that 40 years ago in Hollywood never would have gotten a second movie.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:07 PM (0hOvj)

41 What people are complaining about is 1, Indiana Jones movies have usually been feel-good optimistic popcorn rides, not dour, depressing dramas about 80-year-old men who will die alone and as failures, while meanwhile, 2, yet another Kaffeine Kennedy female self-insert is presented as infallible and once again Just Like the Male Hero, Except Better At Everything So You Should Like Her Even More Than the (Spit) Old White Male Hero, Misogynist Bigots.
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Yup.

Again, they hate you.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:08 PM (t0OGg)

42 "So far Disney is my only personal boycott that is effecting me right now. I’m waiting until Guardians of the Galaxy III comes on TV before I watch it."
don't bother, Its awful

Posted by: Shaftoe at July 11, 2023 04:08 PM (BZYCq)

43 >>I like Indiana Jones. I am not a fan, but I liked the movies.

i was a huge fan. it was my favorite franchise. He was like James Bond, but with spooky stuff.

Such a waste.

They should have just recast and made Chris Pratt Indiana Jones, back in the 30s where he belongs, like ten million people told them to do.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:08 PM (KRtlO)

44 The upper eschelons of the corporate class are, for all intents and purposes, an insular aristocracy, with shared backgrounds, educations, tastes, and mores.

Aka, baby killing.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2023 04:08 PM (gO/j+)

45 41 Yup.

Again, they hate you.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:08 PM (t0OGg)

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They hate you, and they deserve your money.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:09 PM (LvTSG)

46 I cannot help but suspect that Disney's theme parks evolving into a luxury company catering to the world's wealthiest clienteles is intertwined with the company's evolution into an institution with an increasingly outspoken progressive cultural agenda.

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Hey, somebody's got to fill the gap (SWIDT?) left after Pedo Island shut down!

I'll bet their planned new ride "Lolita Express" will be lit AF ...

Posted by: ShainS at July 11, 2023 04:09 PM (OPYRy)

47 Since 92% of the country is lgbtqabc123xyz+ , those consumers should make up the shortfall right?

Posted by: Montec at July 11, 2023 04:09 PM (KK6O+)

48 One week at the Disney properties, guide for only one day, tickets, food, etc. - a bit over $30,000. Never again.
Posted by: jwest at July 11, 2023 04:07 PM (VP9ao)

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Holy hell.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2023 04:09 PM (DRSnL)

49 Again, the whole f**king point of all of these films should have been to create characters that were just as beloved as the original characters and send off the original characters in such a way so that you retain the good feelings of the audience so that you can tell future stories that they will want to see.

YOU F**KING CHOSE FLEABAG TO REPLACE INDIANA JONES.

Literally, not figuratively, five random people on this blog could have written the Star Wars and Indiana Jones sequels and had a better more coherent arc.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2023 04:09 PM (up/3i)

50 Well, now Iger is saying he wants to stay another year, and there's no way Disney will be paying any dividends any time soon.
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A penny per share.

On December 31.

There. Dividend paid.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:09 PM (t0OGg)

51 43 They should have just recast and made Chris Pratt Indiana Jones, back in the 30s where he belongs, like ten million people told them to do.
Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:08 PM (KRtlO)

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Recast in 1993. I think they almost did it, too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:09 PM (LvTSG)

52 "Why do you want legacy characters to be infallible?"

Why do YOU want Phoebe Waller-Bridges to be infallible, Mangold?

Posted by: XTC at July 11, 2023 04:10 PM (UnA8+)

53 And people had problems with Lucas pushing the archetype hero into scifi with Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:00 PM (LvTSG)
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Although Indiana Jones was live-action pulp fiction, that particular idea just didn't quite fit the usual genre in the previous films, all of which featured religious iconography in some way. The genre-switch was a bit jarring.

With better writing (and maybe fewer Nazis) it might have worked, though.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2023 04:10 PM (YIVH2)

54 If Walt were still alive he would gird up his loins and drive everyone out of the C-suite with a whip made of cords.

Posted by: You have defiled my house! at July 11, 2023 04:10 PM (uoAlb)

55 I haven't read the content yet, but those prices have to be per person. Then you have hotel, meals, and transportation. For an entire family.
I would venture to say it would be cheaper to go to a place like Myrtle Beach which has amusement park areas and a beach.
The government refuses to undertand that people are cutting back to try and keep to a budget. It is easy to cut out a big ticket item like a trip to Disney.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 11, 2023 04:10 PM (t/2Uw)

56 In the tv series "1883" Harrison Ford plays the part of a bedridden man on his death bed.
He nailed it!

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 11, 2023 04:10 PM (MeG8a)

57 They should have just recast and made Chris Pratt Indiana Jones, back in the 30s where he belongs, like ten million people told them to do.

It was an easy call but no, they couldn't imagine it. Although like four other actors have already played Indiana Jones in the TV series and in Last Crusade.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:10 PM (0hOvj)

58 Some people will never get over that C+ they got from the fat, smelly, un-wed ogre that taught English 101 and never do stop trying to please her.

I never had a fat, smelly, unwed ogre teaching Comp 101, if I even had that class. I had as a professor (for many of my English courses) a handsome, married (I think, but he never discussed that) pipe smoking man in his fifties. My husband taught English Comp 101 as an adjunct. At the time he was in his thirties, and not smelly or married. My mother taught that class too. Neither unwed, smelly or an ogre.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2023 04:10 PM (Keyt1)

59 In the movie, Ballard (Caviezel's character) gets the idea to set up a fake "sex club" so that traffickers will just deliver him the children he wants to save. He gets this idea from a newspaper article, which features some financier being arrested for setting up his own "sex club" involving underage children.

And this club will be very high-end and caters to the rich. This is another sticking point that critics hate - how much of the world's wealthy and connected are actually evil child rapists of both girls and boys. Hit too close to home for some in the media.

Posted by: Cheri at July 11, 2023 04:11 PM (oiNtH)

60 disney parks attendance at the lowest levels in a decade.....gee I wonder who could have seen this coming.

I mean you put a dude with a beard in a princess dress to welcome little girls to the princess shop and you didn't stop to think that might be a problem.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2023 04:11 PM (ncXxy)

61 I now respect Jewell too much to point out that her breasts are like untamed mustangs thundering across the verdant plains. I'll just leave that implied.
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LOL. "The fabulous jugs of Jewell."

But she's right. And this is a problem for the hard left. If the position is now, "if you are in favor of even *discussing* child sex trafficking, you're a conservative," well, bold move, Cotton.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:11 PM (t0OGg)

62 everyone knew wolvering is a hero, albeit a flawed one, that doesn't fly jimbo

Posted by: no 6 at July 11, 2023 04:11 PM (PXvVL)

63 OK I like Jewell even more now, she's also still cute.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 11, 2023 04:11 PM (xdNDi)

64 I see this movie tomorrow. I am looking forward to it. First movie I've been to in over a year.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:12 PM (t0OGg)

65 Ads for Disney Parks used to be in the winter, and showed families planning a vacay or packing. Saw some this week that were 90% gal pals together in the parks. OK. Run with that.

Posted by: Texican ette at July 11, 2023 04:12 PM (go3B0)

66 I have no interest in Guardians of the Galaxy 3, in part because James Gunn is a scumbag who does not deserve the money, and in a bigger part because the last one was just not that good.

And Disney.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:12 PM (0hOvj)

67 In the past decade the population has increased by somewhere around 10% which means their numbers are down to a lot more than a decade ago, relatively speaking.

Posted by: Montec at July 11, 2023 04:12 PM (KK6O+)

68 A nice local family is planning a trip to Disneyland in fall. I hope I don't have to worry.
It doesn't help that sleezy lounge Lizard Gavin Newsom has legalized kidnapping children

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at July 11, 2023 04:12 PM (VdGjU)

69 @30: "Sorry, but an aging Harrison Ford talking about how honored he was to play a fictional character ..."

Ford has never pandered to an audience like that before now. Being too cool for that sorta thing was always part of his "personal brand" since forever. That interview was a last minute shameless ripoff of Tom Cruise's "thank you for letting us entertain you" message before Top Gun Maverick, and it only happened when the opening weekend pre-sales numbers were looking catastrophic.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 11, 2023 04:12 PM (k1Qly)

70 Disney. Can't fix stupid.

Posted by: Archer at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (gmo/4)

71 As for Mangold's 'Logan'...it's pretty good but also not fun to watch. I'll never be seeing it again, and I'm sure AF not buying it on Bluray.

Mangold is also deconstructing, not just Wolverine, but also Professor X who is implied to have mind blasted and killed all the other X men accidentally.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (xcxpd)

72 It says a lot about the company that Las Vegas seems more family-friendly these days...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2023 04:07 PM (YIVH2)
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Have you ever said, "I lament the 'Disneyfication' of Las Vegas and Times Square. It isn't fun anymore!"

Don't worry. We have you covered!

Posted by: Disney Resorts at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (t0OGg)

73 I haven't enjoyed any of Harrison Ford's recent work:

Jeeze, I don't remember that douchery going on at the time.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (DTX3h)

74 Disney parks are losing money?

**munches popcorn**

That's a shame.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (NgqoH)

75 Jewel never did get her snaggleteeth fixed.

Not that this would stop me for even a second.

Posted by: spongeworthy at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (DWqKI)

76 Walt would especially be kicking ass on the p3dos. He went out of his way to keep the creepazoids away from the child stars back in the day.

Posted by: Walt did not suffer chomos at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (uoAlb)

77 They should have just recast and made Chris Pratt Indiana Jones, back in the 30s where he belongs, like ten million people told them to do.

It was an easy call but no, they couldn't imagine it. Although like four other actors have already played Indiana Jones in the TV series and in Last Crusade.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:10 PM (0hOvj)
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It's a shame River Phoenix died of an OD. He would have made a great younger Indiana Jones. He was chosen to play a young Indy in The Last Crusade because of how well he was able to mimic Harrison's mannerisms.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (YIVH2)

78 I think people like to keep their view of heroes from past movies. They don't want to see Indiana Jones as a tired old man, bullied by his daughter. If Harrison Ford wanted to play an old man, bullied by his daughters he should have challanged himself and played King Lear. THAT I would go to see.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (Keyt1)

79 I'm sure in those strategy meetings at Disney headquarters, no one even dared mention their "Gay agenda" might be a contributing factor.

That's why Disney will continue it's spiral down.

Posted by: WisRich at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (G0vdT)

80 71 As for Mangold's 'Logan'...it's pretty good but also not fun to watch. I'll never be seeing it again, and I'm sure AF not buying it on Bluray.

Mangold is also deconstructing, not just Wolverine, but also Professor X who is implied to have mind blasted and killed all the other X men accidentally.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (xcxpd)

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Just watch Shane instead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (LvTSG)

81 I have to wait in line 45 minutes before I can take a ride on my wife. No wonder I'm always itchin' for war.

Posted by: Cap'n Bill Kristol at July 11, 2023 04:14 PM (ik/65)

82 I now respect Jewell too much to point out that her breasts are like untamed mustangs thundering across the verdant plains. I'll just leave that implied.

You're a Gentleman, Ace!

Also, quite correct.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2023 04:14 PM (sAmhv)

83 Ford has never pandered to an audience like that before now. Being too cool for that sorta thing was always part of his "personal brand" since forever. That interview was a last minute shameless ripoff of Tom Cruise's "thank you for letting us entertain you" message before Top Gun Maverick, and it only happened when the opening weekend pre-sales numbers were looking catastrophic.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 11, 2023 04:12 PM (k1Qly)
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He did it because he was told to, and he's probably getting a cut of the paltry box office.

Kennedy told him to tape a proof-of-life video, so he did it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:14 PM (t0OGg)

84 Hit too close to home for some in the media.

And the elite. They felt things were a bit too close to on target and are recoiling from the movie, trying to downplay it.

And adding insult to injury, Freedom did better box office than Indiana Jones last week.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:14 PM (0hOvj)

85 79 I'm sure in those strategy meetings at Disney headquarters, no one even dared mention their "Gay agenda" might be a contributing factor.

That's why Disney will continue it's spiral down.
Posted by: WisRich at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (G0vdT)

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They let go the executive who talked about the "no so secret gay agenda" a month or so ago.

She was one of several major DEI hires who got canned over the course of a couple of weeks. Even the BBC's DEI executive got let go. The BBC.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:15 PM (LvTSG)

86 55" I haven't read the content yet, but those prices have to be per person. Then you have hotel, meals, and transportation. For an entire family.
I would venture to say it would be cheaper to go to a place like Myrtle Beach which has amusement park areas and a beach. Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 11, 2023 04:10 PM (t/2Uw)

Years ago we took my son and daughter to Disney World for a week. The next year, we took them to Spain. After everything, Spain was much cheaper.

Posted by: jwest at July 11, 2023 04:15 PM (VP9ao)

87 61 But she's right. And this is a problem for the hard left. If the position is now, "if you are in favor of even *discussing* child sex trafficking, you're a conservative," well, bold move, Cotton.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:11 PM (t0OGg)

That's why they say "Nazi" instead of "Conservative".

Posted by: XTC at July 11, 2023 04:15 PM (UnA8+)

88 >One week at the Disney properties, guide for only one day, tickets, food, etc. - a bit over $30,000. Never again.

Posted by: jwest at July 11, 2023 04:07 PM (VP9ao)

30 large?! Damn.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 11, 2023 04:15 PM (NgqoH)

89 83 He did it because he was told to, and he's probably getting a cut of the paltry box office.

Kennedy told him to tape a proof-of-life video, so he did it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:14 PM (t0OGg)

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He's in the next Captain America movie. He's corporate lackey now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:15 PM (LvTSG)

90 and yet they managed a bump today

The Walt Disney Company (DIS)
89.45 +1.35 (+1.53%)

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 11, 2023 04:15 PM (aD39U)

91 One week at the Disney properties, guide for only one day, tickets, food, etc. - a bit over $30,000. Never again.
Posted by: jwest at July 11, 2023 04:07 PM (VP9ao)

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Holy hell.
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2023 04:09 PM (DRSnL

Another awesome humble brag that I love reading from jwest. He never disappoints.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:15 PM (MNhXM)

92 I think people like to keep their view of heroes from past movies. They don't want to see Indiana Jones as a tired old man, bullied by his daughter. If Harrison Ford wanted to play an old man, bullied by his daughters he should have challanged himself and played King Lear. THAT I would go to see.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (Keyt1)
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LOL.

Not even. If it's someone *else's* daughter. It's his goddaughter. A true outsider swooping in to show him the way!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:16 PM (t0OGg)

93 >>80 71 As for Mangold's 'Logan'...it's pretty good but also not fun to watch. I'll never be seeing it again, and I'm sure AF not buying it on Bluray.

yeah it was okay but Wolverine was always supposed to be this haunted, tragic lonely figure.

Doing the same thing with Indiana "Trust Me" Jones doen't work.

And he was doing the exact same thing. Except that Wolverine was still clearly the hero.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:16 PM (KRtlO)

94 It costs a lot of money to go to Disney World and stand in lines, sweating like a pig, in humid, 93º heat.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 11, 2023 04:16 PM (0Htd1)

95 81 I have to wait in line 45 minutes before I can take a ride on my wife. No wonder I'm always itchin' for war.
Posted by: Cap'n Bill Kristol at July 11, 2023 04:14 PM (ik/65)

No that's the herpes.

Posted by: Get tested! at July 11, 2023 04:16 PM (uoAlb)

96 Wow Jewel speaking common sense, of course she will now be banished. The jeffrey Epsteins and Harvey Weinsteins of Hollywood don't want to talk about their Sex Clubs for Perverts.

Meanwhile Indiana Jones 5: Dial of Disaster has made less than $300 million worldwide so far. Not an very good return on investment there Kathleen 'the Force is Female' Kennedy.

And Harrison Ford. *sigh* He should have retired after they killed Han Solo and then told Disney to find someone else for the role of Indiana Jones.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2023 04:16 PM (22qIH)

97 Trending:
Step 1) Corporate geniuses figure out a way to alienate "Legacy Americans" (aka Normies)
Step 2) the Normies vote with their dollars, a boycott begins.
Step 3) Corporate geniuses now backtrack to try to bring back Normies, which fails
Step 4) The Rainbow haired trans-women with beards now protest and join the boycott. LGBQT joins the boycott.
Step 5) Corporate geniuses wonder what happened...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 11, 2023 04:16 PM (MeG8a)

98 90 and yet they managed a bump today

The Walt Disney Company (DIS)
89.45 +1.35 (+1.53%)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 11, 2023 04:15 PM (aD39U)

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I've never understood these market watch comments.

Since when was the stock of a company tied to the reality of the running of that company on a day to day basis rather than larger trends in the market?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:16 PM (LvTSG)

99 Mangold is also deconstructing, not just Wolverine, but also Professor X who is implied to have mind blasted and killed all the other X men accidentally.

Yeah I have heard good things about that movie but it sounds like endless misery and depression to me. I don't want to see Alzheimer's Professor X and decrepit Logan stumble into misery with a little girl psycho mixed in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:16 PM (0hOvj)

100 Reportedly, Disney "Plus" just got overtaken by HBO's streaming service, "Max."

Max is actually pretty good. The interface is excellent, and it seems fast and not buggy at all, unlike Apple's execrable streaming service.

And they have a ton of content, some of which is actually tolerable!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2023 04:16 PM (PHmov)

101 71 As for Mangold's 'Logan'...it's pretty good but also not fun to watch. I'll never be seeing it again, and I'm sure AF not buying it on Bluray.

Mangold is also deconstructing, not just Wolverine, but also Professor X who is implied to have mind blasted and killed all the other X men accidentally.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (xcxpd)

"Old Man Logan" was kinda already a thing before the movie.

Though I don't know how accurate it was to the Old Man Logan story.

Posted by: XTC at July 11, 2023 04:17 PM (UnA8+)

102 Somebody argued that young single adults now constitute a large portion of Disney's parkgoers. This group is different from families with kids who might also go to the parks.

Posted by: mr tmz at July 11, 2023 04:17 PM (rJ48h)

103 I don't know if I read it here or elsewhere, but it cracks me up that Disney had the distribution rights to Sound of Freedom but Iger refused to release it. Chapek in his brief time sold it to Angel Production which put it out. It promptly kicked the crap out of a Disney property. Cue Nelson Muntz

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2023 04:17 PM (PVx3i)

104 Just watch Shane instead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (LvTSG)

Shane is a much better movie and somehow has a less annoying child actor...SHANE HAS A LESS ANNOYING CHILD ACTOR THAN LOGAN. SHANE!

The more I think about it, the less I like the movie 'Logan'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:17 PM (xcxpd)

105 He's in the next Captain America movie. He's corporate lackey now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:15 PM (LvTSG)
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Yup.

And I am sure he doesn't care. He's old, and raking in cash. His kids probably seriously appreciate his "company man" status.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:17 PM (t0OGg)

106 I took my kids to DW in 2012 and swore never again. The prices were fucking obscene. It’s like yeah prices are high in tourist areas. But there’s high and there’s are you fucking kidding me high. Like a burger and fries was $25. A t shirt is $30 and on and on. And yes you can always bring a sandwich from home I suppose but you’re on vacation, that’s kind of the point, not to have to worry about making food at home.

Posted by: Montec at July 11, 2023 04:17 PM (KK6O+)

107 The government refuses to undertand that people are cutting back to try and keep to a budget. It is easy to cut out a big ticket item like a trip to Disney.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 11, 2023 04:10 PM (t/2Uw)
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I mentioned in an earlier thread that there are at least three factors in play:
1. Bad storytelling in current Disney product
2. Wokeness injected into every Disney product
3. Less disposable income due to inflation and stagnant economy.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2023 04:17 PM (YIVH2)

108 "I now respect Jewell too much to point out that her breasts are like untamed mustangs thundering across the verdant plains. I'll just leave that implied."

Such a turn of phrase.

Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at July 11, 2023 04:17 PM (OgrpQ)

109 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:16 PM (t0OGg)

Thanks for the correction. That makes it worse.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2023 04:17 PM (Keyt1)

110 Not to mention, over at the Townhall

Disney Continues to Groom Children in the Creepiest Way Possible

Disney decided its woke agenda of grooming children through movies and books was not enough. So they have also to allow males dressed as princesses to greet their kids.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 11, 2023 04:17 PM (uQPen)

111 "Newsflash: If you're making an Indian Jones action-adventure movie and you think the appeal of the film should be "examining the humanity of a hero" -- deconstructing him -- tear up your first draft and start again."

But, they could've done this. They could've done this by showing Indy giving into age while still having an adventurer's spirit. He didn't need to be a broken down old man. They chose to follow that trope because it made the libbies all tingly in their no-no squares.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2023 04:18 PM (KbCG3)

112 also I didn't even really like Logan. All the nerds praised it because they all crave Mainstream Respectability, which is why they're always pushing for *comic book movies* to be "dark" and "mature" and "gritty" and "adult."

These are boys adventure fantasies, for crying out loud. It's dumb to make them "adult." That takes the fun out of them.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:18 PM (KRtlO)

113 "I now respect Jewell too much to point out that her breasts are like untamed mustangs thundering across the verdant plains. I'll just leave that implied."

What an eloquent way to not point that out.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2023 04:18 PM (StUJj)

114 89 He's in the next Captain America movie. He's corporate lackey now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:15 PM (LvTSG)

Admittedly, it was fun when a bunch of dorks got all excited about him being Red Hulk and he was all "Who the f*** is Red Hulk? I don't give a shit about comic books."

Posted by: XTC at July 11, 2023 04:18 PM (UnA8+)

115 Took the kids to Duhsney twice. Never again. Wife and I talked about taking Grandkids when we have them some day. Now, nope. No way will I support the grooming mouse.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 11, 2023 04:18 PM (xdNDi)

116 Yeah I have heard good things about that movie but it sounds like endless misery and depression to me. I don't want to see Alzheimer's Professor X and decrepit Logan stumble into misery with a little girl psycho mixed in.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:16 PM (0hOvj)

That is an accurate summary of the movie, sadly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:18 PM (xcxpd)

117 "...Disney made a conscious decision to kiss-off middle class families to pitch itself as a resort for wealthy families."

Wealthy from what countries? Does Walt Disney World still scan guests fingerprints at park entrances? If so, the wealthy won't be doing that.

So cheers to Disney & the 'wealthy' who love their comps - rooms, tickets, transportation, dinner, baby sitting, gift bags, yada, yada. And, with their families, anonymity.

How will Disney survive?

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They known their enemy. at July 11, 2023 04:18 PM (GshMh)

118 Meanwhile Indiana Jones 5: Dial of Disaster has made less than $300 million worldwide so far. Not an very good return on investment there Kathleen 'the Force is Female' Kennedy. ...
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2023 04:16 PM (22qIH)
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This loss is going to be so huge that it will probably finish pushing the value of the entire Lucasfilm acquisition down to negative numbers.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:19 PM (t0OGg)

119 104 Shane is a much better movie and somehow has a less annoying child actor...SHANE HAS A LESS ANNOYING CHILD ACTOR THAN LOGAN. SHANE!

The more I think about it, the less I like the movie 'Logan'.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:17 PM (xcxpd)

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I'm not opposed to deconstruction in general. For instance, I think the deconstruction of Bond in Skyfall actually takes Bond closer to who he is as a character than something like The Man with the Golden Gun.

But deconstruction requires love to really work. You have to love the thing you're deconstructing otherwise you're really just destroying with this facade of post-modernism laid on top.

It's pretty obvious to me that Sam Mendes loved Bond. It's also pretty obvious to me that Kathleen Kennedy does not love anything she's in charge of.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:19 PM (LvTSG)

120 Last decent film Ford was in was Age of Adeline.

Should have hung 'em up after that.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2023 04:19 PM (up/3i)

121 >>I see this movie tomorrow. I am looking forward to it. First movie I've been to in over a year.

I haven't to a movie theater in a decade. Saw Sound of Freedom on Sunday. It was worth it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2023 04:19 PM (ZLI7S)

122 Sorry Disney, but you p3do pushing pansies are dead to me. No toys, no dvds, no trips to the movies or parks for my grand children.

Posted by: Regular joe at July 11, 2023 04:19 PM (nnp+f)

123 So, having a decrepit old codger deliver a message is supposed to convince us to go see an action movie? Somebody must have failed their marketing class in college.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 11, 2023 04:19 PM (0Htd1)

124 Happy to say that the recent Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 has not gone wokey brokey. Fun, sad, fun and family is part of the theme.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 11, 2023 04:19 PM (uQPen)

125 "I now respect Jewell too much to point out that her breasts are like untamed mustangs thundering across the verdant plains. I'll just leave that implied."

Could you imply it with pics?

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 11, 2023 04:19 PM (xdNDi)

126 I know Paul likes stock movements, so he will appreciate the fact that three month performance for AB is down 13%. Disney is down 11%. Target is down 21%. The S and P is up 8% over the same period.

Must be the divisive social cons. Couldn't possibly be idiot management.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2023 04:19 PM (SqYMN)

127 Not even. If it's someone *else's* daughter. It's his goddaughter. A true outsider swooping in to show him the way!

And its the daughter of a character never before in the movies. They could have made it Brodie's daughter, or Sullahs, but they made up some new dude?? Just to introduce her as a god-daughter?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:19 PM (0hOvj)

128
Since when was the stock of a company tied to the reality of the running of that company on a day to day basis rather than larger trends in the market?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:16

Since it proves my narrative.

Posted by: Montec at July 11, 2023 04:19 PM (KK6O+)

129 I don't know what's funnier, bagging on JackStraw or the allusions to Jewels stupendous knockers.

Either way, well done Chuy.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2023 04:19 PM (EPupa)

130 112 also I didn't even really like Logan. All the nerds praised it because they all crave Mainstream Respectability, which is why they're always pushing for *comic book movies* to be "dark" and "mature" and "gritty" and "adult."

These are boys adventure fantasies, for crying out loud. It's dumb to make them "adult." That takes the fun out of them.
Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:18 PM (KRtlO)

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I don't think I've ever seen a movie yearning to be taken more seriously than Logan wants to be taken seriously.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:20 PM (LvTSG)

131 Another awesome humble brag that I love reading from jwest. He never disappoints.
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:15 PM (MNhXM)

Don't hate me because I'm not poor - I can still relate. In the mean time, live a worthwhile life vicariously through me.

Posted by: jwest at July 11, 2023 04:20 PM (VP9ao)

132 Ford looks more than a little bit like Biden… the expression on his face especially so..

Posted by: tubal at July 11, 2023 04:20 PM (PCK5/)

133 128
Since when was the stock of a company tied to the reality of the running of that company on a day to day basis rather than larger trends in the market?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:16

Since it proves my narrative.
Posted by: Montec at July 11, 2023 04:19 PM (KK6O+)

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*nods sagaciously*

I'll allow it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:21 PM (LvTSG)

134 I now respect Jewell too much to point out that her breasts are like untamed mustangs thundering across the verdant plains. I'll just leave that implied."
.......

was she wearing overalls?

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2023 04:21 PM (v0R5T)

135 So, having a decrepit old codger deliver a message is supposed to convince us to go see an action movie? Somebody must have failed their marketing class in college.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 11, 2023 04:19 PM

New hire from Bud Light?

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 11, 2023 04:21 PM (xdNDi)

136 Wolverine was always supposed to be this haunted, tragic lonely figure.

Doing the same thing with Indiana "Trust Me" Jones doesn't work.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:16 PM (KRtlO)

One of the most endearing things about Indiana Jones was that while he was always scrambling, he also mostly had an upbeat view. Yeah, he lost the widget to Belloq, but damn it! He's got a plan to get it back!

That's quite American, and a surefire way to create a sympathetic and loyal audience.

So of course Disney f*cked it up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2023 04:21 PM (PHmov)

137 I'm not opposed to deconstruction in general. For instance, I think the deconstruction of Bond in Skyfall actually takes Bond closer to who he is as a character than something like The Man with the Golden Gun.

The problem with Bond movies now is that if you go back to his origins and deconstruct him, he falls apart as a character. Because he's supposed to be a WWII Commando that got hired on by MI6 for spy work... which would put him in his 80s or older. So it can't be that guy, which was clearly established not just in the books but in earlier movies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:21 PM (0hOvj)

138 I liked Logan I guess because it’s the only x-men movie I’ve seen so I wasn’t invested in any pre-conceived positions, I didn’t like that they had an entirely innocent family killed. That was a step too dark for me.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:22 PM (MNhXM)

139 I hope Musk does put the movie on Twitter.. wokies would implode in droves…

Posted by: tubal at July 11, 2023 04:22 PM (PCK5/)

140 The weird thing is: Progressives aren't wealthier than conservatives.

Well, they are in the entertainment industry, but entertainment industry employees are a small portion of the U.S. population.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 11, 2023 04:22 PM (0Htd1)

141
They should have just recast and made Chris Pratt Indiana Jones, back in the 30s where he belongs, like ten million people told them to do.

Posted by: ace

Mmmm. I really like Chris Pratt and Chris Pine and Chris Hemsworth....I'm 29 but I don't want to see an aging former action hero. The movie magic is down the drain.
I watched MI: Rogue Nation the other night. Remembered you said it was your favorite and it was a $2.49 Prime special. It was just as much fun to watch as the first time. Going to see the new one on Saturday.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 11, 2023 04:22 PM (t/2Uw)

142 They should have just recast and made Chris Pratt Indiana Jones, back in the 30s where he belongs, like ten million people told them to do.

I'm not sure they could if they wanted to.

The generation that saw pulp serials is gone or almost gone; those that aren't gone have lost their wits. No one around really understands the thought world of the genre. Or appreciates the unapologetic masculinity or black and white moral ethos.

Even if you eliminated the Mary Sue wish-fulfillment fantasy and misandry, who in Hollywood could turn out a good Indiana Jones picture? To the current crop, the Nazis are just stand-ins for Republicans. Kathleen Kennedy-free Jones would just be a different kind of awful. Look at how bad Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at July 11, 2023 04:22 PM (ppBhU)

143 Except that Wolverine was still clearly the hero.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:16 PM (KRtlO)

That might be the part that Mangold got right: throughout the movie, Logan is trying to do right. He even sacrifices his life for annoying children.

But God...was it miserable.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:22 PM (xcxpd)

144 >>>. Yeah, he lost the widget to Belloq, but damn it! He's got a plan to get it back!

Actually --

"You'll get it back? How?!"

"I don't know, I'm making this up as I go along."

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:22 PM (KRtlO)

145 Took the kids to Duhsney twice. Never again. Wife and I talked about taking Grandkids when we have them some day. Now, nope. No way will I support the grooming mouse.
Posted by: Minnfidel at July 11, 2023 04:18 PM (xdNDi)
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This, right here, is a *huge* part of the problem for Disney.

According to a guest I saw on WDW_Pro's show, the biggest demographic decline for the parks is older people: 65+.

Why do people that old go to Disney World or Disneyland? Because they're taking their grandkids. They also have the money to take the grandkids (and, of course, the kids as well) on a Disney vacation. Show the grandkids a great time, do some bonding, spend a *lot* of money on it because why not? They have the money and want to do it.

Except they don't want to do it anymore. Grandpa and Grandma aren't taking the family to Disney nearly as much as they used to. Gee whiz, I wonder why *that* might be.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:22 PM (t0OGg)

146 "Disney is *not* a family company anymore, and it's showing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) "

This is a good point that has been hiding in plain sight in front of me. Guess I just don't think about Disney much.

And Harrison should please just GTF away. Thank you.

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2023 04:22 PM (iziT8)

147 Both Disney and Transheuser-Busch have forgotten that the number of people who *need* their products is always zero; they deliver totally discretionary products. (unlike housing, groceries, energy, etc) This is why Branding is so important to them, and also why they are always at risk of succumbing to a cascade preference if they piss a significant number of the customers off.

A cascade preference is what I think they are both going through now. Virtually impossible to stop once one starts.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2023 04:22 PM (i9ffA)

148 Still listen to Jewel. Always loved her music.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 11, 2023 04:22 PM (uQPen)

149 Wasn't Jewel a homeless runaway kid for awhile? She may know more about the cruel world impact on kids than the lefties who think children are able to consent to abuse.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2023 04:22 PM (SqYMN)

150 137 I'm not opposed to deconstruction in general. For instance, I think the deconstruction of Bond in Skyfall actually takes Bond closer to who he is as a character than something like The Man with the Golden Gun.

The problem with Bond movies now is that if you go back to his origins and deconstruct him, he falls apart as a character. Because he's supposed to be a WWII Commando that got hired on by MI6 for spy work... which would put him in his 80s or older. So it can't be that guy, which was clearly established not just in the books but in earlier movies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:21 PM (0hOvj)

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What Skyfall does is present this supposed backstory of Bond and then blows it up, saying that none of it fucking matters because Bond is beyond that. Bond is Bond, and where he comes from isn't important.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:23 PM (LvTSG)

151 Yep. Jewell is still a hottie.

Posted by: Staying away from controversial statements at July 11, 2023 04:23 PM (uoAlb)

152
Attendance at Disney Parks Hits Lowest Level in a Decade

__________

COVID
Climate change
Trump
Anti-Trans laws

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2023 04:23 PM (MoZTd)

153 I now respect Jewell too much to point out that her breasts are like untamed mustangs thundering across the verdant plains. I'll just leave that implied.

lol

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at July 11, 2023 04:23 PM (ppBhU)

154 It was an easy call but no, they couldn't imagine it. Although like four other actors have already played Indiana Jones in the TV series and in Last Crusade.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023

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Four? I remember River Phoenix as the young Henry in the third film, and the TV series with Sean Patrick Flanery. I didn't see film four. Were there two other actors in that?

Yes; Chris Pratt would have been perfect in a Thirties period piece.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2023 04:24 PM (J2vNu)

155 104 Just watch Shane instead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (LvTSG)

Shane is a much better movie and somehow has a less annoying child actor...SHANE HAS A LESS ANNOYING CHILD ACTOR THAN LOGAN. SHANE!

The more I think about it, the less I like the movie 'Logan'.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards,

Shane had Jack Palance, who played one of the most underappreciated movie villains in history. Ok, maybe that isn't correct, but I rarely hear the name 'Jack Wilson' as a great movie villain. Jack Palance was sinister and awesome in that movie.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2023 04:24 PM (sAmhv)

156 Harrison Ford, who smokes more pot than JackStraw, is reduced to babbling that this movie was made "for the fans."

Yeah it definitely wasn't made to make caring, woke liberals like him even more super rich.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 11, 2023 04:24 PM (0Htd1)

157 Jewel could save Disney with on tit still partially covered.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2023 04:24 PM (EPupa)

158 Was it ESPN's Scot Van Pelt who dismissed criticism of their wokeness in their programing by saying what were the viewers going to do, read a book? Apparently they did.

When you want to make art for arts sake, you hcan do what you want. When you want to make art in exchange for money, well other parties now get to express an opinion, including "Nope, not with money out of Ace's hobo skin money and condom holding messenger bag."

Posted by: Bete at July 11, 2023 04:24 PM (PYoBO)

159 One of the most endearing things about Indiana Jones was that while he was always scrambling, he also mostly had an upbeat view. Yeah, he lost the widget to Belloq, but damn it! He's got a plan to get it back!

That's quite American, and a surefire way to create a sympathetic and loyal audience.

So of course Disney f*cked it up.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2023 04:21 PM (PHmov)
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Indiana Jones was a bit of a cynic when it came to life, but when he was discussing artifacts, he was positive that sharing them through a museum experience was a great way for the rest of the world to share in his own wonder and excitement.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2023 04:24 PM (YIVH2)

160 >>>I watched MI: Rogue Nation the other night. Remembered you said it was your favorite and it was a $2.49 Prime special. It was just as much fun to watch as the first time. Going to see the new one on Saturday.

Cool. 5 remains my favorite, though 7 is good too. 5 had a great new character in Ilsa Faust, and 7 actually tops that with "Grace" (last name unknown).

One thing the movies 4 and 5 had was Jeremy Renner as Brandt, who was my favorite. He didn't appear in 6 because hi role was being taken over by Henry Cavill. I would have liked to have seen him back for 7, but he's not in it. (I think filming was done before his accident but I'm not sure)

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:25 PM (KRtlO)

161 Another opportunity for a parallel economy...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 11, 2023 04:25 PM (uQPen)

162 Just watch Shane instead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (LvTSG)

I watched In Harm's Way over the weekend. It was a little weird seeing "the kid from Shane" as a horndog Navy lieutenant.

Posted by: spindrift at July 11, 2023 04:25 PM (Mv5p/)

163 112 also I didn't even really like Logan. All the nerds praised it because they all crave Mainstream Respectability, which is why they're always pushing for *comic book movies* to be "dark" and "mature" and "gritty" and "adult."

These are boys adventure fantasies, for crying out loud. It's dumb to make them "adult." That takes the fun out of them.
Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:18 PM (KRtlO)

Wasn't that a 90s comic trend or something?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 11, 2023 04:25 PM (eYoxG)

164 Harrison Ford is my least liked actor. I think someone else could have been better in every role he’s had.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:25 PM (MNhXM)

165 TRUE HOLLYWOOD FACT:

The kid in Shane was more annoying that Cousin Oliver.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2023 04:25 PM (EPupa)

166 "You'll get it back? How?!"

"I don't know, I'm making this up as I go along."

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:22 PM (KRtlO)

Okay...but he tried!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2023 04:26 PM (PHmov)

167 also I didn't even really like Logan. All the nerds praised it because they all crave Mainstream Respectability, which is why they're always pushing for *comic book movies* to be "dark" and "mature" and "gritty" and "adult."

These are boys adventure fantasies, for crying out loud. It's dumb to make them "adult." That takes the fun out of them.
Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:18 PM (KRtlO)
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I liked "Logan." It had a good story and it was acted extremely well and the effects weren't over the top. It wouldn't have even needed to be an "X-Men" movie. It could have been any given near-future sci-fi movie.

In fact, "Logan" sort of *wasn't* an X-Men movie - though one of the benefits to Fox slowly lumbering around with X-Men for close to two decades is that there was a lot of variety.

Marvel movies were like a Corvette: there is a specific thing they have to be, no matter what, or it is universally hated.
X-Men movies were like a Mustang: it can be just about any damn thing - some successful and loved, some hated and awful.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:26 PM (t0OGg)

168 We took the chilluns to Disney about 20 years ago. Stayed at the Polynesian. Was OK; kids seemed to have a good time. But WTF is with all of the grown-ass people who go there without children. It was creepy then and I can't even imagine groomer/pedo Disney now. Eff, em.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at July 11, 2023 04:26 PM (NgqoH)

169 All of the Mission Impossible movies are good… they have a basic concept. They entertain.

Posted by: tubal at July 11, 2023 04:26 PM (PCK5/)

170

These are boys adventure fantasies, for crying out loud. It's dumb to make them "adult." That takes the fun out of them.
Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:18 PM (KRtlO)

Who do they hate the most?
Who do they belittle and attack at every turn?
Who are they at war with?
That's right, young people with penises. (not "Boys", hater)

Posted by: Auspex at July 11, 2023 04:26 PM (j4U/Z)

171 Seriously.

If Shane had shot that fucking kid in the face?

Best Western Ever.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2023 04:26 PM (EPupa)

172 I'm not opposed to deconstruction in general. For instance, I think the deconstruction of Bond in Skyfall actually takes Bond closer to who he is as a character than something like The Man with the Golden Gun.

But deconstruction requires love to really work. You have to love the thing you're deconstructing otherwise you're really just destroying with this facade of post-modernism laid on top.

It's pretty obvious to me that Sam Mendes loved Bond. It's also pretty obvious to me that Kathleen Kennedy does not love anything she's in charge of.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:19 PM (LvTSG)

I'm not a fan of Skyfall either, really. And I'm honestly opposed to all deconstruction in entertainment. Deconstruction's only function is academic: to understand something, to look at the pieces to understand how a piece of entertainment works. When you make a book or a movie or anything that deconstructs a character or a story, it kills it. You kill the thing you are dissecting. It just makes storytelling and entertainment harder.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:26 PM (xcxpd)

173 In Raiders and the two following movies Indiana is plucky. People like a scrappy underdog of a hero.

Not a tired old man with a bottle stashed in a desk drawer waiting for Death to save him.

Mangold with Kennedy's approval deliberately destroyed Dr. Henry 'Indiana' Jones Jr because male role models are ICKY.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2023 04:26 PM (22qIH)

174 respect Jewell too much

Who is Jewell?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2023 04:26 PM (Keyt1)

175 Technically left wing areas are richer than right wing areas. But… that is only if you base it on income alone. The median blue county earns. A lot more than the median red county. However, when adjusted for taxes and cost of living, the reverse happens.

Leftists never understand this phenomenon. Or they don’t want believe it.

Posted by: Montec at July 11, 2023 04:26 PM (KK6O+)

176 162 I watched In Harm's Way over the weekend. It was a little weird seeing "the kid from Shane" as a horndog Navy lieutenant.
Posted by: spindrift at July 11, 2023 04:25 PM (Mv5p/)

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I've seen Dean Stockwell as a kid in several movies recently, and I keep going, "This is the guy who sang Roy Orbison in Blue Velvet...as a kid."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:26 PM (LvTSG)

177 Also a balcony cabin on a Disney cruise ship will run you about $500 a day.

Posted by: These Fish Sticks Are Hard As Tits at July 11, 2023 04:27 PM (iOt02)

178 Oh and Joe isn't just allowing human trafficking by throwing open the southern border, his crack head son and his equally garbage brother and probably Joe himself were making money off human trafficking.

Might be still.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2023 04:27 PM (ZLI7S)

179 >>> He didn't appear in 6 because hi role was being taken over by Henry Cavill.

I meant, not that the role was being taken over by Cavill, but that the function of the character was taken over by Cavill -- a heroic male who is almost the equal of Ethan Hunt and who clashes with him and challenges his leadership choices, while also being of questionable loyalty.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:27 PM (KRtlO)

180 169 All of the Mission Impossible movies are good… they have a basic concept. They entertain.
Posted by: tubal at July 11, 2023 04:26 PM (PCK5/)

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II is a piece of shit and proof positive that John Woo is one of the worst action directors working in the 90s.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:27 PM (LvTSG)

181 155 104 Just watch Shane instead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (LvTSG)

Shane is a much better movie and somehow has a less annoying child actor...SHANE HAS A LESS ANNOYING CHILD ACTOR THAN LOGAN. SHANE!

Worst child actor ever - the kid in The Road. Never in my life have I ever before rooted for a child character to die. I hate The Road for doing that to me.

Posted by: I cannot fully express the depths of its suckitude at July 11, 2023 04:27 PM (uoAlb)

182 Luckily my kids were young in the 90's and we lived only 40 minutes from Disneyland. I would take them and their friends to DL on Superbowl Sunday. As long as I was springing for the tickets, food, souvenir's, at least we had very little lines to wait in if at all and never had to stay overnight.

Posted by: Cheri at July 11, 2023 04:27 PM (oiNtH)

183 164 Harrison Ford is my least liked actor. I think someone else could have been better in every role he’s had.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:25 PM (MNhXM)

It wasn't until a recent thread that I realized I didn't care for Kevin Costner. I like a lot of his movies but they're all just him wearing a different costume.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2023 04:27 PM (KbCG3)

184 94 It costs a lot of money to go to Disney World and stand in lines, sweating like a pig, in humid, 93º heat.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 11, 2023 04:16 PM (0Htd1)

Disney has solved that problem for the common man. For just $465/hour (8 hour minimum) they will give you a guide that takes you wherever you want to go in the parks. No waiting in line. You get the best seats on the ride or event. Air conditioned vans take you the back way from park to park with chilled drinks along way. Actually, it was one of the only things at Disney that was worth the price.

Posted by: jwest at July 11, 2023 04:27 PM (VP9ao)

185 and the TV series with Sean Patrick Flanery.

They had an actor playing very old Indiana Jones narrating, and a very young kid Indiana Jones as well for flashbacks.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:27 PM (0hOvj)

186 174 respect Jewell too much

Who is Jewell?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2023 04:26 PM (Keyt1)

Fen,

https://youtu.be/AfsS3pIDBfw

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 11, 2023 04:28 PM (PiwSw)

187 Fleming's James Bond, according to John Pearson's Authorized Biography, was born in 1920. So he'd be 103 if he were a day. Even if you don't go with that, Bond was clearly in his thirties during the Fifties, so he'd be pretty close to 100.

It would be interesting to do a period-piece Bond, a 1955 adventure like Moonraker, but an original.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2023 04:28 PM (J2vNu)

188 >>>Wasn't that a 90s comic trend or something?

IT CONTINUES, unfortunately.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:28 PM (KRtlO)

189 Just got back from a PTO meeting with Nike-wearing moms who pine for their town to get a Target and are "surprising the kids with Disney World" this summer. It's funny what's different outside the bubble.

Posted by: Catherine at July 11, 2023 04:28 PM (ZSsrh)

190 I briefly looked at going to Disneyworld to get my wife and kids off my back about it. For a family of 6, it would cost almost $2000 for just TWO DAYS of tickets!

I figure with a cheap hotel, food, gas and any shopping the total cost would be about $4000 for a four day trip and only two days at the park.

Totally ridiculous, I make good money, like top 5% income bracket.

Somehow my dad who was a janitor was able to afford a trip to DisneyWorld from Baltimore in the 70s including a side trip to Key West for 5 people.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 11, 2023 04:28 PM (RSqGO)

191 172 I'm not a fan of Skyfall either, really. And I'm honestly opposed to all deconstruction in entertainment. Deconstruction's only function is academic: to understand something, to look at the pieces to understand how a piece of entertainment works. When you make a book or a movie or anything that deconstructs a character or a story, it kills it. You kill the thing you are dissecting. It just makes storytelling and entertainment harder.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:26 PM (xcxpd)

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I've seen too many examples of deconstruction work in film for me to dismiss it out of hand. Last Action Hero is a loving deconstruction of Arnold movies from the 80s, and it's better than most of those Arnold movies from the 80s.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:28 PM (LvTSG)

192 Shane had Jack Palance, who played one of the most underappreciated movie villains in history. Ok, maybe that isn't correct, but I rarely hear the name 'Jack Wilson' as a great movie villain. Jack Palance was sinister and awesome in that movie.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2023 04:24 PM (sAmhv)

Thankfully, Shane really gave Jack Palance's career a kick. He's really good in it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:28 PM (xcxpd)

193 "...her breasts are like untamed mustangs thundering across the verdant plains.'

Pure poetry, far better than anything you would ever hear at some artsy bar reading.

Posted by: Ripley at July 11, 2023 04:29 PM (KrJTL)

194 Max is actually pretty good. The interface is excellent, and it seems fast and not buggy at all, unlike Apple's execrable streaming service.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2023 04:16 PM (PHmov)

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Interesting you mention this; husband got a free trial to Apple+, and this past weekend we watched some of Hijack (which by the way I thought was a movie based on the previews, not a series). About halfway through the first episode it got stuck and I couldn't get it to keep playing.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2023 04:29 PM (DRSnL)

195 did ya know Kathleen Kennedy is...70? What happened to her...talent???? Sounds if we can believe wiki for these facts, at one time, 30 + years ago, she did have some talent. Did she lose said talent and cuz she's a lib gal with a powerful hubby and friends like Lukas/Spielberg, she's still around even though whatever talent she had left long ago?
"n 1981, she co-founded the production company Amblin Entertainment with Steven Spielberg and her eventual husband Frank Marshall.
Her first film as a producer was E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982). A decade later, again with Spielberg, she produced the Jurassic Park franchise, the first two of which became two of the top ten highest-grossing films of the 1990s."

Posted by: ziggggyyyyeeee at July 11, 2023 04:29 PM (nJgbt)

196 Worst child actor ever - the kid in The Road.

Worse than the kid in Terminator 2?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:29 PM (0hOvj)

197 and the TV series with Sean Patrick Flanery.

They had an actor playing very old Indiana Jones narrating, and a very young kid Indiana Jones as well for flashbacks.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023

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Ah, okay. I was in school at night when the TV series ran, so I missed a lot of it. Thought Flanery played the old Jones in the narration scenes too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2023 04:29 PM (J2vNu)

198 I watched In Harm's Way over the weekend. It was a little weird seeing "the kid from Shane" as a horndog Navy lieutenant.
Posted by: spindrift at July 11, 2023 04:25 PM (Mv5p/)

All battles are fought by scared men who'd rather be somewhere else.

- Rear Admiral Rock Torrey

Posted by: Archer at July 11, 2023 04:29 PM (gmo/4)

199 Brandon deWilde, the kid in Shane, turned into a fine actor, starring in Farewell my Lady (a very good film about a boy and his dog) with Walter Brennan, and also in Hud (among other things). He looked set to have a very notable career until he was tragically killed in a car accident at age 30.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2023 04:30 PM (i9ffA)

200 194 Max is actually pretty good. The interface is excellent, and it seems fast and not buggy at all, unlike Apple's execrable streaming service.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2023 04:16 PM (PHmov)

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And it has an agreement with TCM, so it's back catalogue is far richer than pretty much any other major streaming service.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:30 PM (LvTSG)

201 But WTF is with all of the grown-ass people who go there without children. It was creepy then and I can't even imagine groomer/pedo Disney now. Eff, em.
Posted by: Heavy Meta

Eh. I went with my GF once and another GF (now wife) a different time. Just the two of us. Nothing nefarious about it.

Posted by: Montec at July 11, 2023 04:30 PM (KK6O+)

202 Oh, and BTW, Mangold...

I know Stephen Spielberg.
He is a friend of mine.
You are no Stephen Spielberg.

From now on I will refer to you as Manlead, as you work your reverse alchemy on movie franchises.

Posted by: Regular joe at July 11, 2023 04:30 PM (nnp+f)

203 180 169 All of the Mission Impossible movies are good… they have a basic concept. They entertain.
Posted by: tubal at July 11, 2023 04:26 PM (PCK5/)

II is a piece of shit and proof positive that John Woo is one of the worst action directors working in the 90s.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:27 PM (LvTSG)

So, you didn’t like it…. how bad was it?? Moulon Rouge bad??

Posted by: tubal at July 11, 2023 04:30 PM (PCK5/)

204 China’s minister of ecology and environment, speaking at the United Nations, called for a collective effort to implement a global biodiversity framework. A framework which will displace an estimated 300 million indigenous people and financialise the natural world.

According to the Indigenous Environmental Network, “COP15 prioritised the expansion of false solutions, harmful instruments, and the financialisation of Mother Earth over the true protection of biodiversity.”

Prominent on COP15’s agenda were new financial instruments tied to Nationally Determined Contributions (“NDC”

and foreign debt, the expansion of nature-based solutions (“NBS”

, including biodiversity offsets through the framework, as well as digital sequencing information (“DSI”

and the expansion of geoengineering technologies. The final text of COP15, the Kunming-Montreal framework, includes a range of false solutions that cater to private finance.

These false solutions include NBS, the financialisation and commodification of nature, geoengineering, and offsetting schemes as well as genetic engineering in the forms of synthetic biology and gene drives.

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2023 04:30 PM (RHGPo)

205 bit over $30,000. Never again.
Posted by: jwest at July 11, 2023 04:07 PM (VP9ao)

I paid far less than that for my truck. that's crazy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Lookin' for me wooden leg at July 11, 2023 04:30 PM (xPJvm)

206 A cascade preference is what I think they are both going through now. Virtually impossible to stop once one starts.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2023 04:22 PM (i9ffA)
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Yup. It isn't a boycott, it's just your customers turning away from you in droves.

It reminds meof a passage from "Atlas Shrugged:"
In the old days, it used to be said that the Twentieth Century Motor trademark was as good as the karat mark on gold. I don't know what it was that the Starnes heirs thought, if they thought at all, but I suppose that like all social planners and like savages, they thought that this trademark was a magic stamp which did the trick by some sort of voodoo power and that it would keep them rich, as it had kept their father. Well, when our customers began to see that we never delivered an order on time and never put out a motor that didn't have something wrong with it— the magic stamp began to work the other way around: people wouldn't take a motor as a gift, if it was marked Twentieth Century, And it came to where our only customers were men who never paid and never meant to pay their bills.

Disney's "magic stamp" is starting to work the other way around.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:30 PM (t0OGg)

207 Took my kids to DW in 2009, when they were young but old enough to enjoy the rides and such. On our last day, as we were leaving the park, I said, "Kids, turn around and take a good look. That's the last time you're ever going to see this f*cking place again."

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 11, 2023 04:30 PM (bNf8H)

208 wasn't until a recent thread that I realized I didn't care for Kevin Costner. I like a lot of his movies but they're all just him wearing a different costume.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2023 04:27 PM (KbCG3

I don’t disagree though I thought he was a good cast choice in Mr Brooks.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:30 PM (MNhXM)

209 >>> I'm not a fan of Skyfall either, really.

I didn't mind what you are calling the "deconstruction" there. I thought it was a decent idea to show Bond trying to recover from injury and age to get back to fighting form. It worked in Rocky III.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:30 PM (KRtlO)

210 194 Interesting you mention this; husband got a free trial to Apple+, and this past weekend we watched some of Hijack (which by the way I thought was a movie based on the previews, not a series). About halfway through the first episode it got stuck and I couldn't get it to keep playing.
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2023 04:29 PM (DRSnL)

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AppleTV+ funding both Martin Scorsese's and Ridley Scott's next movies (Killers of the Flower Moon and Napoleon). They'll both be getting theatrical releases (Napoleon is cofinanced by Paramount), but I hate the idea of having to pay for a streaming service to watch them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:30 PM (LvTSG)

211 Trafficking child sex slaves is not a "philosophical difference".

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 11, 2023 04:31 PM (aD39U)

212 Jack Palance - City Slickers.

Posted by: tubal at July 11, 2023 04:31 PM (PCK5/)

213 "I now respect Jewell too much to point out that her breasts are like untamed mustangs thundering across the verdant plains. I'll just leave that implied."

that's Song of Solomon-esque right there.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Lookin' for me wooden leg at July 11, 2023 04:31 PM (xPJvm)

214 Last Action Hero is a loving deconstruction of Arnold movies from the 80s, and it's better than most of those Arnold movies from the 80s.

One of my favorite movies, let alone Arnold movies. So underrated. And clearly everyone involved loved those old movies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:31 PM (0hOvj)

215 Jewell used to hang in Philly I met her a couple o' times

she was always really nice

but she wasn't famous yet

wtf is wrong with that Mangold guy? what a dick

he destroyed Wolverine too right? he has a Thing. daddy issues like a BITCH

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 11, 2023 04:31 PM (AcWfM)

216 I was at the Hollywood Bowl the other night for one of this year's John Williams concerts. Williams mentioned that he'd recently written the score to the new Indiana Jones movie. He talked up Harrison Ford.

There were a lot of cheers from the audience.

He talked up Phoebe Waller.

There were a *lot* fewer cheers.

Keep in mind that this is in lefty LA County, at a concert (which tends to appeal to the progs).

Posted by: junior at July 11, 2023 04:31 PM (Iy1ww)

217 Fortunately I got my mandatory Disney trip for the kids out of the way about 10 years ago. Water parks were fun but the rest was hellish. Never again.

Posted by: Ripley at July 11, 2023 04:31 PM (KrJTL)

218 Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 11, 2023 04:28 PM (PiwSw)

Is she some very unclothed actress or singer? I'm one of the few people on here who doesn't want to see that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2023 04:31 PM (Keyt1)

219 I've seen too many examples of deconstruction work in film for me to dismiss it out of hand. Last Action Hero is a loving deconstruction of Arnold movies from the 80s, and it's better than most of those Arnold movies from the 80s.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:28 PM (LvTSG)

Even if it works, and I'm not ready to concede that point, it just makes the entertainment harder. It turns a character into a joke, making the moments of drama like 'all you've ever given me is pain' actually jarring. Deconstructions means you can't have Last Action Hero 2, because once the joke is repeated, it's less funny.

Every deconstruction of Casablanca is worse than Casablanca, because Casablanca is sincere. It's not trying to be more than it was.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:31 PM (xcxpd)

220 A little FYI, the films playing for the month of June in 1981, were, Raiders of The lost Ark, History of The World Part 1, Stripes, Cannonball Run, For Your Eyes Only and Clash of The Titans.

And that's just June.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2023 04:31 PM (up/3i)

221 203 II is a piece of shit and proof positive that John Woo is one of the worst action directors working in the 90s.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:27 PM (LvTSG)

So, you didn’t like it…. how bad was it?? Moulon Rouge bad??
Posted by: tubal at July 11, 2023 04:30 PM (PCK5/)

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*stands up proud and announces*

I LOVE MOULIN ROUGE. I FIND IT A WONDERFUL ADVENTURE THROUGH SIGHT AND SOUND AND BAZ LURHMANN'S GREATEST TRIUMPH!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:32 PM (LvTSG)

222 And the American comic book industry is pretty much in an assisted living home next to Jimmy Carter.

It only looks healthy if you combine all the manga sales with their anemic ones.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2023 04:32 PM (22qIH)

223 but I didn't like how dour and self-serious the Bond films got.

It's why I didn't love The Dark Knight like other people did. As I said in my review all those years ago: "How seriously am I expected to take a Batman movie?"

I would not want to go back to the days of Roger Moore's shenanigans and silliness, but I don't want a movie pretending at a seriousness it just doesn't have. It should be just serious enough to make the danger feel real, and not much more serious than that.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:32 PM (KRtlO)

224 Skyfall was the best Bond film in many years in part because it is one of the best pure adventure films in many years. It would have been a grand film even if it had not been about someone named James Bond. That the writers took the trouble to work in details from Fleming's background for the character, up to and including his parents' names, plus the appearance of the famous Aston Martin, was just icing on the cake.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2023 04:32 PM (J2vNu)

225 "Well, there's a point where these characters become symbols more than characters, and so there becomes this anxiety that if you examine the humanity of a hero, you somehow weaken them

...

Congratulations nothing you just said made any sense we are all dumber now I award you zero points etc etc.

Posted by: TexasDan at July 11, 2023 04:32 PM (ctSg0)

226 My husband and I spent our honeymoon at Disney World in 1997. One of the best vacations we ever had. We always meant to take our kid, but we could never find the money to go. Pretty glad now that we didn't!! I certainly will never return.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at July 11, 2023 04:33 PM (6xRrr)

227 171 Seriously.

If Shane had shot that fucking kid in the face?

Best Western Ever.
Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2023 04:26 PM (EPupa)

That's most people's favorite scene from the game "The Town With No Name".

Shane, Come back!
My name's not Shane, kid!
*Main Character shoots the kid in the face*

Posted by: XTC at July 11, 2023 04:33 PM (UnA8+)

228 221

*stands up proud and announces*

I LOVE MOULIN ROUGE. I FIND IT A WONDERFUL ADVENTURE THROUGH SIGHT AND SOUND AND BAZ LURHMANN'S GREATEST TRIUMPH!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:32 PM (LvTSG)

Dude… just, Dude!!

Posted by: tubal at July 11, 2023 04:33 PM (PCK5/)

229 197 and the TV series with Sean Patrick Flanery.

They had an actor playing very old Indiana Jones narrating, and a very young kid Indiana Jones as well for flashbacks.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023

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Ah, okay. I was in school at night when the TV series ran, so I missed a lot of it. Thought Flanery played the old Jones in the narration scenes too.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2023 04:29 PM (J2vNu)

Speaking of Flanery, I just saw Suicide Kings for the first time. Oof, what a piece of shit. It wants to be good. It tries to be good. It just has no idea how to be good.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2023 04:33 PM (KbCG3)

230 So, I see that I’ve stumbled into a movie thread.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2023 04:33 PM (xTRSc)

231 One reason I love my wife and kids so much is that none of them ever showed any interest in visiting a Disney park. We did a lot of road trips and camping trips.

thank the Lord.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Lookin' for me wooden leg at July 11, 2023 04:33 PM (xPJvm)

232 who's up for a 5 day hospitality ticket for the Masters ??

Posted by: REDACTED at July 11, 2023 04:33 PM (us2H3)

233 >>> I've seen too many examples of deconstruction work in film for me to dismiss it out of hand. Last Action Hero is a loving deconstruction of Arnold movies from the 80s, and it's better than most of those Arnold movies from the 80s.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

i'm starting to think you're the guy at the party who says, "Actually, Howard the Duck was a triumph."

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:33 PM (KRtlO)

234 174 respect Jewell too much

Who is Jewell?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Singer, songwriter, actress. Been around a while now. Late 80s/early 90s I guess is when she came on the 'scene'. Folkish sound but can rock out when needed. She's ok.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2023 04:33 PM (sAmhv)

235 Huh, that was new. The comments page just auto-reloaded on me. At least I think it did. Has Pixy been mucking around under the covers again?

Posted by: Oddbob at July 11, 2023 04:33 PM (nfrXX)

236 211 Trafficking child sex slaves is not a "philosophical difference".
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 11, 2023 04:31 PM (aD39U

Love is love, bigot.

Posted by: The 2SLGBTQAMAP+ wing of the Democrat Party at July 11, 2023 04:34 PM (uoAlb)

237 209 >>> I'm not a fan of Skyfall either, really.

I didn't mind what you are calling the "deconstruction" there. I thought it was a decent idea to show Bond trying to recover from injury and age to get back to fighting form. It worked in Rocky III.
Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:30 PM (KRtlO)

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It's the destruction of the iconography around Bond like the blowing up of the Aston Martin at the end. The film is taking the iconography of Bond and destroying it, laying the character bare with only a shotgun, an old man (that they originally wanted to be played by Sean Connery), and M, and getting him out using nothing but his own skills.

That's extremely different from Indy being a wreck and getting rescued by a young woman because he sucks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:34 PM (LvTSG)

238 most of our Disney visits were in conjunction with sports tournaments at the Wide World of Sports

I'm retired from sports mom (except for college which doesn't use that venue) so yay! don't miss it it was always an expensive PITA

I think the numbers show parents eschewing the intense sports-tourney-nonsense thing I spent oodles on for years and year now. the Millies just aren't into it, and honestly good for them. that's going to hurt Disney a LOT. they made a lot of money there. but they don't like contact sports, parents today. I don't think WWoS hosts eSports tournaments.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 11, 2023 04:34 PM (AcWfM)

239 I thought Disney Plus was going to Hulu. Or did I dream that?

Disney is co-owner of Hulu along with Comcast/NBCUniversal. Comcast is exercising a clause in the contract to make Disney the only owner, which involves Disney paying them potentially over $10 billion.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2023 04:34 PM (ZGrMX)

240 209 >>> I'm not a fan of Skyfall either, really.

I didn't mind what you are calling the "deconstruction" there. I thought it was a decent idea to show Bond trying to recover from injury and age to get back to fighting form. It worked in Rocky III.
Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:30 PM (KRtlO)

That part worked well. I don't consider that deconstruction, that's more of a protagonist struggling against an obstacle.

A deconstruction would be, oh, M calling Bond a 'misogynistic old dinosaur' and Bond just having to take it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:34 PM (xcxpd)

241 193 "...her breasts are like untamed mustangs thundering across the verdant plains.'

Pure poetry, far better than anything you would ever hear at some artsy bar reading.

Posted by: Ripley at July 11, 2023 04:29 PM (KrJTL)

man, when she first showed up, man, oh MAN! Few have looked better in a tight Tee...
anyone remember when Kurt Loder mocked her for her use of the word casualty in some book of poetry she wrote? (and was a big seller)
"they" have hated her for a long time, for some reason...

Posted by: ziggggyyyyeeee at July 11, 2023 04:34 PM (nJgbt)

242 You probably can believe what I want to pay a $30 G tour

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2023 04:34 PM (xhxe8)

243 REDACTED are you serious?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 11, 2023 04:35 PM (AcWfM)

244 I am very fond of the jewels

Posted by: REDACTED at July 11, 2023 04:35 PM (us2H3)

245 233 i'm starting to think you're the guy at the party who says, "Actually, Howard the Duck was a triumph."

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:33 PM (KRtlO)

And now, everybody is contractually obligated to talk about duck boobs.

Posted by: XTC at July 11, 2023 04:35 PM (UnA8+)

246 233 i'm starting to think you're the guy at the party who says, "Actually, Howard the Duck was a triumph."

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:33 PM (KRtlO)

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Nah. That thing is hard to sit through.

Last Action Hero, though? Fun.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:35 PM (LvTSG)

247 willowed.

Nikki 'Iron Lady' Haley on with Cavuto who hates Trump hoping she sees that Trump can not be allowed to be President again.

Where's Asa? C'mon you Sam Donaldson (sp) look-alike.
May the toupe be with you...

we need emoji :clown::world:

Norm: "...what, you want me to get him out of the case? my guy, Rusty..." paraphrased

https://youtu.be/PKwIKJb3n74?t=514

Unsolicited.
If your url doesn't wrap the line here in the comment input box, no problem.

Output box is another size larger by ~30%
and bitly etc have started to be more more than less.

vi, ssh, less, cat, 'view -'

And we don't get

Posted by: micky at July 11, 2023 04:35 PM (3byMq)

248 >>>Last Action Hero, though? Fun.

i liked the Hamlet part.

To be or not to be. Not to be.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:35 PM (KRtlO)

249 I didn't much care for Skyfall (it had some pretty serious plot flaws and I don't buy Craig as Bond), but I did like them getting rid of annoying Judi Densch "M".

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:35 PM (0hOvj)

250 Is she some very unclothed actress or singer? I'm one of the few people on here who doesn't want to see that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2023 04:31 PM (Keyt1)
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No. She's a pop singer who rose to prominence in the late 90s. She's pretty and has big boobs that can't be hidden but she doesn't have 'em hanging out of her clothes:
https://youtu.be/W3WMMwlHgZI

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:35 PM (t0OGg)

251 243 REDACTED are you serious?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 11, 2023 04:35 PM (AcWfM)

shirley, yep

Posted by: REDACTED at July 11, 2023 04:35 PM (us2H3)

252 Is she some very unclothed actress or singer? I'm one of the few people on here who doesn't want to see that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2023

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Fen, I have never seen Jewel (Jewel Kilcher is her full name) wearing less than she should be. Barefoot, yes, shorts, yes, but the kind of shorts you'd see on a girl at a fair or a concert, not a thong or anything like that. She has always seemed to me to have class.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2023 04:35 PM (J2vNu)

253 Jewel sounds a HELLUVA lot better with the sound OFF.

Posted by: Dr_No at July 11, 2023 04:36 PM (mu5GU)

254 240 A deconstruction would be, oh, M calling Bond a 'misogynistic old dinosaur' and Bond just having to take it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:34 PM (xcxpd)

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Like in Goldeneye!

And then Bond rides a tank through Moscow, straightens his tie, and beds all the ladies, winning the day with his dinosaur ways.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:36 PM (LvTSG)

255 @172 I'm not a fan of Skyfall either, really.

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I'm not either, for a few reasons. I ignored the deconstruction. But I hated that the bad guy won. And as someone in IT, I can"t sit still when Q does something that is inherently so risky that it's basically hammered into your skull in every IT department that you never, ever, ever do.

Posted by: junior at July 11, 2023 04:36 PM (Iy1ww)

256 233 >>> I've seen too many examples of deconstruction work in film for me to dismiss it out of hand. Last Action Hero is a loving deconstruction of Arnold movies from the 80s, and it's better than most of those Arnold movies from the 80s.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

i'm starting to think you're the guy at the party who says, "Actually, Howard the Duck was a triumph."

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:33 PM (KRtlO)

Now let me tell y'all how Dragon Age 2 (video game) was a brilliantly written tragedy.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 11, 2023 04:36 PM (eYoxG)

257 Regarding Max, it's basically HBO Max with the Discovery Plus content added in.

That's important in light of what Ace said, because HBO Max was originally pitched to urban liberals as where to watch all the prestige HBO stuff. Discovery is taking it downmarket by throwing in HGTV, Food Network, Animal Planet, and all their other stuff and it's causing them to make a lot more money.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2023 04:36 PM (ZGrMX)

258 248 >>>Last Action Hero, though? Fun.

i liked the Hamlet part.

To be or not to be. Not to be.
Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:35 PM (KRtlO)

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Charles Dance before everyone knew him as part of Game of Thrones, too!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:36 PM (LvTSG)

259 Netflix Quietly Cancels 'Anti-Racist' Video Project Started After George Floyd

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2023 04:36 PM (RHGPo)

260 Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2023 04:33 PM (sAmhv)

Thanks. The name sounded familiar. I don't think I've seen her in anything, or I can't remember.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2023 04:37 PM (Keyt1)

261 That's a shame.

Posted by: In my best Seinfeld voice at July 11, 2023 04:37 PM (2H7D9)

262 A lot of what gets called deconstruction is just plain old fashioned destruction.

Sure, you can take an ikea bed frame apart with a screwdriver. Or you could do it with a fragmentation grenade. One is deconstruction. The other is not.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 11, 2023 04:37 PM (9UlRk)

263 Sound of Freedom won Monday with $4M Box Office. Indy was 3rd behind SoF and Insidious...the hits keep coming to the Mouse, and not the good kind...

Go get tickets for Sound of Freedom this week - my local theaters have doubled showings through next weekend...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2023 04:37 PM (exHjb)

264 Best (and most entertaining) bit of Deconstruction I've ever seen idone in film is Guildenstern and Rosencrantz are dead.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2023 04:37 PM (i9ffA)

265 Fen, I have never seen Jewel (Jewel Kilcher is her full name) wearing less than she should be. Barefoot, yes, shorts, yes, but the kind of shorts you'd see on a girl at a fair or a concert, not a thong or anything like that. She has always seemed to me to have class.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2023 04:35 PM (J2vNu)
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She's always had a nice "girl next door" vibe, which is a large part of her appeal.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2023 04:37 PM (YIVH2)

266 Heart Pacemaker Manufacturer Warns users to Keep Distance from EV Charging Stations

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2023 04:37 PM (RHGPo)

267 I liked Skyfall , but I get those criticisms. haven't seen the last one, seem to recall a woman of color gets the best of Bond, several times, in the preview....

Posted by: ziggggyyyyeeee at July 11, 2023 04:37 PM (nJgbt)

268 255 I'm not either, for a few reasons. I ignored the deconstruction. But I hated that the bad guy won. And as someone in IT, I can"t sit still when Q does something that is inherently so risky that it's basically hammered into your skull in every IT department that you never, ever, ever do.
Posted by: junior at July 11, 2023 04:36 PM (Iy1ww)

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My sweeping away of Q's stupidity in that moment is that he's an arrogant Millennial who thinks he's far better than he actually is.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:37 PM (LvTSG)

269 Family went to Disney World the year before Spacd Moutain was opened, remember being able to go inside to see the construction, 1974 maybe.

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2023 04:37 PM (xhxe8)

270 Jewell slept in her car in Ocean Beach before she was discovered.

Ocean effing Beach.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 04:38 PM (jgJfd)

271 I thought Jeremy Renner added a lot. He is one of my favorite characters as Hawkeye.
Just looked up 6 and I could have sworn I saw it but don;t remember Cavill or the plot. Prime offering all the MI movies cheap so guess that's tonight's entertainment.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 11, 2023 04:38 PM (t/2Uw)

272 222 And the American comic book industry is pretty much in an assisted living home next to Jimmy Carter.

It only looks healthy if you combine all the manga sales with their anemic ones.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2023 04:32 PM (22qIH)

And the manga writers are WAY better story-tellers.

Posted by: Weird but good at July 11, 2023 04:38 PM (uoAlb)

273 254 240 A deconstruction would be, oh, M calling Bond a 'misogynistic old dinosaur' and Bond just having to take it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:34 PM (xcxpd)

========

Like in Goldeneye!

And then Bond rides a tank through Moscow, straightens his tie, and beds all the ladies, winning the day with his dinosaur ways.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:36 PM (LvTSG)

Isn't that a subversion of deconstruction?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 11, 2023 04:38 PM (eYoxG)

274 I didn't much care for Skyfall (it had some pretty serious plot flaws and I don't buy Craig as Bond), but I did like them getting rid of annoying Judi Densch "M".
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023

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When Bond scoops up M and takes her to Scotland, making an active move to lead the villain into a trap -- or at least to a spot where he and M hope to have the advantage -- it was a tremendous charge. Seeing Bond not just as tactician but as strategist!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2023 04:38 PM (J2vNu)

275 Disney is co-owner of Hulu along with Comcast/NBCUniversal. Comcast is exercising a clause in the contract to make Disney the only owner, which involves Disney paying them potentially over $10 billion.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2023 04:34 PM (ZGrMX)
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Well, it's assumed that Comcast is going to do so. Disney is assuming that it will happen. Comcast could choose not to, but it's not very likely (and, if Disney is completely insane, it can compel Comcast to sell - either party can force the issue).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:38 PM (t0OGg)

276 I liked Howard the Duck for about 3 minutes, when the lovely and talented Lea Thompson is in negligee, but then you realize she's tempting a duck puppet and it gets really cringy. She's kind of the queen of that sort of thing, all the way to Back to the Future when she's trying to seduce her son.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:38 PM (0hOvj)

277 5 years from now, Zelensky will own Disney

Posted by: REDACTED at July 11, 2023 04:38 PM (us2H3)

278 And the guy who bitches about the cost of postage stamps shows up on cue to humble brag.

I don't believe anything that guy posts about his life style.

Posted by: cfo mom at July 11, 2023 04:38 PM (Q8bDL)

279 @246

>>Nah. That thing is hard to sit through.
Last Action Hero, though? Fun.

Indeed, but so was Howard The Duck.

It's simply from a different time, when people or at least people like me would go to the movies and just about everything that was in the movie theaters.

Was it great, no, but everything can't be Ishtar.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2023 04:38 PM (up/3i)

280 Jewel is attractive but methinks Ace overrates her boobs.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 11, 2023 04:38 PM (pohLc)

281 I LOVE MOULIN ROUGE. I FIND IT A WONDERFUL ADVENTURE THROUGH SIGHT AND SOUND AND BAZ LURHMANN'S GREATEST TRIUMPH!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:32 PM (LvTSG)

It's no young girl's erotic journey from Milan to Minsk, but it does have peakish Nicole Kidman.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 11, 2023 04:38 PM (aD39U)

282 Costner was surprisingly good as the evil Elvis in that Elvis movie.

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2023 04:38 PM (iziT8)

283 David Niven was the classiest bond. Fight me.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2023 04:38 PM (xTRSc)

284 267 I liked Skyfall , but I get those criticisms. haven't seen the last one, seem to recall a woman of color gets the best of Bond, several times, in the preview....
Posted by: ziggggyyyyeeee at July 11, 2023 04:37 PM (nJgbt)

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You could hard cut nu-007 black lady out of the film, and you'd lose surprisingly little from either story or plot. She's shockingly tangential to everything.

And it wouldn't be much better. No Time to Die is a complete disaster of a script.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:39 PM (LvTSG)

285 Just watch Shane instead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:13 PM (LvTSG)

Shane is a much better movie and somehow has a less annoying child actor...SHANE HAS A LESS ANNOYING CHILD ACTOR THAN LOGAN. SHANE!

Worst child actor ever - the kid in The Road. Never in my life have I ever before rooted for a child character to die. I hate The Road for doing that to me.
Posted by: I cannot fully express the depths of its suckitude at July 11, 2023 04:27 PM (uoAlb)

Most annoying kids in a movie? The protagonist's (Tom Cruise) kids in War of the Worlds.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at July 11, 2023 04:39 PM (BdMk6)

286 Jewel looks good. Her big breakout album was what, 25 years ago? Crazy

Posted by: brak at July 11, 2023 04:39 PM (3BMQI)

287 Is she some very unclothed actress or singer? I'm one of the few people on here who doesn't want to see that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2023 04:31 PM

Someone posted a you tube link above for you. Singer, cute but not trashy. Sings a song called hands about being God's hands, God's eyes. Among other folkish tunes. Millions of records. She seems to have a level head on her shoulders too.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 11, 2023 04:39 PM (xdNDi)

288 272 And the manga writers are WAY better story-tellers.
Posted by: Weird but good at July 11, 2023 04:38 PM (uoAlb)

Sometimes.

But sometimes it's stuff like "That time I got reincarnated as a Moldy Tuna Casserole".

Posted by: XTC at July 11, 2023 04:39 PM (UnA8+)

289 Howard the Duck?

Lea Thompson.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2023 04:39 PM (22qIH)

290 I didn't SEE a gun pointed at Harrison Ford's head in that Special Message from Harrison Ford, but there had to have been one. Maybe just off-camera.

Posted by: m at July 11, 2023 04:39 PM (LdYi7)

291 Oddly, even with sky high prices LA’s finest gang bangers and their offspring, manage to afford admission.

Posted by: Montec at July 11, 2023 04:39 PM (KK6O+)

292 Pretty good guess, opened Jan 1975 and we went July year before

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2023 04:39 PM (xhxe8)

293 Jewell also did one of the best, most non-bullshit rendtions of the national anthem (at a super bowl long ago).

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at July 11, 2023 04:40 PM (ppBhU)

294 290 I didn't SEE a gun pointed at Harrison Ford's head in that Special Message from Harrison Ford, but there had to have been one. Maybe just off-camera.

Callista was threatening to snap her purse shut on his dangly old-man balls

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 11, 2023 04:40 PM (AcWfM)

295 I liked Howard the Duck for about 3 minutes, when the lovely and talented Lea Thompson is in negligee, but then you realize she's tempting a duck puppet and it gets really cringy. She's kind of the queen of that sort of thing, all the way to Back to the Future when she's trying to seduce her son.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:38 PM

Her wearing those panties in the bedroom scene makes the whole movie worth watching, at least for that 2 minute segment.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2023 04:40 PM (ncXxy)

296 Charles Dance before everyone knew him as part of Game of Thrones, too!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:36 PM (LvTSG)

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I'm pretty sure the first thing I ever saw him in was The Golden Child.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2023 04:40 PM (DRSnL)

297 Costner was surprisingly good as the evil Elvis in that Elvis movie.
Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2023 04:38 PM (iziT

I love 3000 Miles from Graceland. And you’re right. Costner was good in that.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:40 PM (MNhXM)

298 an island supposedly set up as a sex club?
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Rikers??

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at July 11, 2023 04:40 PM (krqg6)

299 300!

Posted by: m at July 11, 2023 04:40 PM (LdYi7)

300 281 I LOVE MOULIN ROUGE. I FIND IT A WONDERFUL ADVENTURE THROUGH SIGHT AND SOUND AND BAZ LURHMANN'S GREATEST TRIUMPH!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:32 PM (LvTSG)

OK but your lipstick is a bit heavy

Posted by: REDACTED at July 11, 2023 04:41 PM (us2H3)

301 I love Moulin Rouge.

I tried to tell my idiot sister in law that she would love it.

Stupid bint wouldn't hear a word that I said.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 04:41 PM (jgJfd)

302 299 300!
Posted by: m at July 11, 2023 04:40 PM (LdYi7)

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It's true, 300 does follow 299. Good job!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:41 PM (LvTSG)

303 >>>I'm pretty sure the first thing I ever saw him in was The Golden Child.

oh yeah.

I liked the snake demon thing in The Golden Child. Well I guess she wasn't a demon. She wasn't evil.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

304 aw m you were so close

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 11, 2023 04:41 PM (AcWfM)

305 Her wearing those panties in the bedroom scene makes the whole movie worth watching, at least for that 2 minute segment.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2023 04:40 PM (ncXxy)
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Like the painting scene in "Titanic."

It's really odd how some parts of the tape seem wear out faster than others.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:41 PM (t0OGg)

306 289 Howard the Duck?

Lea Thompson.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2023 04:39 PM (22qIH)

Who is Zoey Deutch's mom.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 11, 2023 04:41 PM (PiwSw)

307 "like untamed mustangs thundering across the verdant plains"

One thousand years from now, when civilization arises again from our ashes, there will be a distinguished blog with a weekly "Art" thread featuring ACE quotes like that above.

Posted by: Next2Nothing at July 11, 2023 04:41 PM (tA1/w)

308 Like in Goldeneye!

And then Bond rides a tank through Moscow, straightens his tie, and beds all the ladies, winning the day with his dinosaur ways.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:36 PM (LvTSG)

Goldeneye has its cake and eats it too. Though...I'll maintain that having 008 turn traitor and rag on England did not enhance that movie.

I've ranted against deconstructionism enough for one thread though. If I haven't made my point by, I'm not going to.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (xcxpd)

309 >>.This issue of transportation is fundamentally about just making sure that people have the ability to get where they need to go.”
Posted by: DJ

Real quote?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at July 11, 2023 03:56 PM (VdGjU)

Sorry, from the other thread - I stepped away, but yes, that is a real quote from the genius:

https://tinyurl.com/52tp5jw5

Posted by: DJ at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (uosPt)

310 301 I love Moulin Rouge.

I tried to tell my idiot sister in law that she would love it.

Stupid bint wouldn't hear a word that I said.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 04:41 PM (jgJfd)

Your sis-in-law has good taste - that movie is so bad, it's almost unwatchable...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (exHjb)

311 A new Isekai anime on Crunchyroll is of this Weebo with a vending machine fixation who gets killed by a vending machine. So he wakes up in a new Dungeons and Dragons type world as a talking vending machine.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (22qIH)

312 Charles Dance before everyone knew him as part of Game of Thrones, too!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:36 PM (LvTSG)

He will always be Sardo Numspa to me.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (aD39U)

313 ***her breasts are like untamed mustangs thundering across the verdant plains.***

Poetry.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (eW8BK)

314 My sweeping away of Q's stupidity in that moment is that he's an arrogant Millennial who thinks he's far better than he actually is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:37 PM (LvTSG)
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Eh. That's somewhat undercut by his first meeting with Bond when he gives him a pistol and a radio beacon. He tells Bond that the fancy gadgets he's used in the past were ridiculous.

Then he does some fundamentally stupid stuff with computers that even someone like me wouldn't do.

Q's character is a bit inconsistent in that regard.

Also, there's some dumb stuff MI6 does to keep Silvia contained...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (YIVH2)

315 >>>280 Jewel is attractive but methinks Ace overrates her boobs.

She has The Thinking Man's Cans.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (KRtlO)

316 But sometimes it's stuff like "That time I got reincarnated as a Moldy Tuna Casserole".

Yeah like everything there is a shocking number of awful Manga put out, just stupid and derivative or insulting, or just crazy. I have a problem with the iconic art style of Manga and Anime as well: it works, but its so stylized and specific, like you stamp characters out with a printer then add a few accessories and hair color to set them apart.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (0hOvj)

317 Harrison Ford, who smokes more pot than JackStraw, is reduced to babbling that this movie was made "for the fans."

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Hss JackStraw ever crashed a boat?

Posted by: ShainS at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (OPYRy)

318 Go get tickets for Sound of Freedom this week - my local theaters have doubled showings through next weekend...

Saw it last night. Came home and payed for seven more people to see it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (Bd6X8)

319 So, I see that I’ve stumbled into a movie thread.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Boobs, movies, just waiting for guns.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (t/2Uw)

320 Peak Nicole was To Die For. Though, from the clips I’ve seen (not having seen the whole film), Moulin Rouge looks close.

The Batman movie was close, too.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (xTRSc)

321 I saw the Indy/Applebee's promo commercial.

You wouldn't know the girl is in the movie-- just half-second action shots of Indy doing .... something. It's so fast you barely see him.
You have--intentionally-- no idea what the movie is about.
It's just, "Indy! You like Indy, don't you? Go see!"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (s6HkY)

322 I saw Jewel live at a local artsy farts fair of some kind, circa mid 2000s. And yes, hawt as fuck in real life. I was close enough to see the bodacious tatas in all their glory.

Posted by: Montec at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (KK6O+)

323 Weird goofy movies… Budapest.

Posted by: tubal at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM (PCK5/)

324 This busty blonde bimbo in short shorts chose to skip Indy 5 - but she's looking forward to "Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning:"
https://is.gd/77lmH2

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM (t0OGg)

325 296 Charles Dance before everyone knew him as part of Game of Thrones, too!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:36 PM (LvTSG)

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I'm pretty sure the first thing I ever saw him in was The Golden Child.
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2023 04:40 PM (DRSnL)

Sardo Numspar for the win!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM (xcxpd)

326 And it wouldn't be much better. No Time to Die is a complete disaster of a script.

Amazon Prime had it free a while ago, I just remember fast forwarding through a lot of it. Its been available free every now and then, of all the Bond films, have zero desire to ever watch it again.

Nothing memorable about it other than ending the franchise.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM (p8A+W)

327 I went to Disneyland like 50 years ago

my SIL lived in Hunnington Beach

otherwise, would have never

Posted by: REDACTED at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM (us2H3)

328 While we are in the movie confessional booth I thought the 13th warrior was perfectly decent entertainment.

Posted by: TexasDan at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM (/6gDb)

329 I LOVE MOULIN ROUGE.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:32 PM (LvTSG)

I actually saw the theater in Paris in April. It's a dump. It's just down the street from a famous cemetery in Montmartre. Truffaut is burried there!

But I was propositioned by a dumpy but amiable prostitute...twice!

I have to give her credit for stick-to-itiveness.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM (PHmov)

330 speaking of Jewel, she had a pop song ( Intuition)that pretty much mocked (in a fairly gentle way) the Brittneys, the Christina's, the Jessicas of the early 2000s, and looked hot as hell in the video...I think MTV didn't like that fact, as I don't recall seeing the video much even though the song was quite catchy
https://tinyurl.com/apm8bs44

Posted by: ziggggyyyyeeee at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM (nJgbt)

331 239 I thought Disney Plus was going to Hulu. Or did I dream that? Disney is co-owner of Hulu along with Comcast/NBCUniversal. Comcast is exercising a clause in the contract to make Disney the only owner, which involves Disney paying them potentially over $10 billion.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2023 04:34 PM (ZGrMX)

Disney owns Hulu? (shit) I just signed up for Hulu in order to watch The Bear. (it's a restaurant thing)

Posted by: jwest at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM (VP9ao)

332 290 I didn't SEE a gun pointed at Harrison Ford's head in that Special Message from Harrison Ford, but there had to have been one. Maybe just off-camera.

Alec Baldwin on set.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM (xdNDi)

333 June 6, 2022

President Biden today issued presidential determinations providing the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) with the authority to utilize the Defense Production Act (DPA) to accelerate domestic production of five key energy technologies: (1) solar; (2) transformers and electric grid components; (3) heat pumps; (4) insulation; and (5) electrolyzers, fuel cells, and platinum group metals. The DPA determinations are part of the Biden-Harris Administration’s plan to lower energy costs for families, strengthen national security, and achieve lasting American energy independence that reduces demand for fossil fuels and bolsters our clean energy economy.

“President Biden has invoked the Defense Production Act so that the U.S. can take ownership of its clean energy independence,” said U.S. Secretary of Energy Jennifer M. Granholm. “For too long the nation’s clean energy supply chain has been over-reliant on foreign sources and adversarial nations. With the new DPA authority, DOE can help strengthen domestic solar, heat pump and grid manufacturing industries while fortifying America’s economic security and creating good-paying jobs, and lowering utility costs along the way.”

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM (RHGPo)

334 308 Goldeneye has its cake and eats it too. Though...I'll maintain that having 008 turn traitor and rag on England did not enhance that movie.

I've ranted against deconstructionism enough for one thread though. If I haven't made my point by, I'm not going to.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (xcxpd)

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I get it, your points, but I just think you paint too broad a brush. Deconstruction is now just an excuse to shit on the past, but it is a tool that can be used to find meaning in something that has become messy. Bond, with 23 movies before it, was a good place to apply that. It had mythos and formula that had become the point rather than the central character. The target of that deconstruction was the formula more than anything else.

If you go to Bond purely for the formula, Skyfall becomes an attack on why you love Bond movies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:44 PM (LvTSG)

335 Posted by: Minnfidel at July 11, 2023 04:39 PM (xdNDi)

O.K. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2023 04:44 PM (Keyt1)

336 Your sis-in-law has good taste - that movie is so bad, it's almost unwatchable...

It's Showgirls bad. But with the added badness of shitty songs and music.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at July 11, 2023 04:44 PM (ppBhU)

337 This busty blonde bimbo in short shorts chose to skip Indy 5 - but she's looking forward to "Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning:"

Are you getting these from Hunter's laptop?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 11, 2023 04:44 PM (p8A+W)

338 Disney is positioning itself to supply kids to the "wealthy clientele". Aiming to fill the void left by Epstein.

Posted by: TC at July 11, 2023 04:44 PM (cHOHf)

339 You wouldn't know the girl is in the movie-- just half-second action shots of Indy doing .... something. It's so fast you barely see him.
You have--intentionally-- no idea what the movie is about.
It's just, "Indy! You like Indy, don't you? Go see!"
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (s6HkY)
++++
"Don't show them anything but the name. Hope against hope that it'll work!"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:44 PM (t0OGg)

340 I’ll be the dick and bring you all down on Jewell .

She dated Sean Penn after her divorce.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:44 PM (MNhXM)

341 324 This busty blonde bimbo in short shorts chose to skip Indy 5 - but she's looking forward to "Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning:"
https://is.gd/77lmH2
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM (t0OGg)

She looks like she overcharges on her hourly rate.
I'd still pay it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:44 PM (xcxpd)

342 Oh we're talking about Jewett the singer, not Jewells the ette.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at July 11, 2023 04:44 PM (VdGjU)

343 I liked Craig as Bond. Best Bond since Connery.

He was actually believable in the role.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2023 04:44 PM (ZLI7S)

344 I don't know if I originally saw this on an ONT ages ago, but the theme song parody( satire?) His Name is James Bond is back on YouTube:

https://youtu.be/ddgS7qvFaKc

Posted by: spindrift at July 11, 2023 04:44 PM (Mv5p/)

345 319 So, I see that I’ve stumbled into a movie thread.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Boobs, movies, just waiting for guns.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 11, 2023 04:42 PM (t/2Uw)

There was a gun, already! Pointed at Harrison Ford to make him say those words!

Posted by: m at July 11, 2023 04:44 PM (LdYi7)

346
"The Professionals", 1965:

Lee Marvin
Burt Lancaster
Robert Ryan
Woody Strode
Jack Palance
Claudia Cardinale's tits

Posted by: Auspex at July 11, 2023 04:44 PM (j4U/Z)

347 Good lord, Harrison Ford is old. God bless for living long, but an ACTION hero? These people are delusional. Square peg/round hole delusional.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2023 04:44 PM (lf83v)

348 I went to Disneyland like 50 years ago

my SIL lived in Hunnington Beach

otherwise, would have never

Posted by: REDACTED at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM

We took our son to Tokyo disneyland when we were stationed in Japan. Very expensive even for Japan.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2023 04:44 PM (ncXxy)

349 This busty blonde bimbo in short shorts chose to skip Indy 5 - but she's looking forward to "Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning:"
https://is.gd/77lmH2
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM

Excessive tats. Would not.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2023 04:45 PM (Wnv9h)

350 Disney owns Hulu? (shit) I just signed up for Hulu in order to watch The Bear. (it's a restaurant thing)
Posted by: jwest at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM (VP9ao)
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Hulu was a 3-way joint venture between Disney, Fox and Comcast.

Then Disney bought Fox and ended up with 2/3 of it. Comcast gets to dump the remaining third onto Disney in January.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:45 PM (t0OGg)

351 Golden Child tries really hard but it just doesn't work, in my opinion. Has a few good lines but mostly its just uneven and unlikable.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:45 PM (0hOvj)

352 Best (and most entertaining) bit of Deconstruction I've ever seen idone in film is Guildenstern and Rosencrantz are dead.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Watch this: G&RAD was first written as play by Tom Stoppard. When Steven Spielberg was having trouble with the dialog in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, he hired Tom to rewrite it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 11, 2023 04:45 PM (jzzG8)

353 Strictly Ballroom > MOULIN ROUGE

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:45 PM (xcxpd)

354 326 And it wouldn't be much better. No Time to Die is a complete disaster of a script.

Amazon Prime had it free a while ago, I just remember fast forwarding through a lot of it. Its been available free every now and then, of all the Bond films, have zero desire to ever watch it again.

Nothing memorable about it other than ending the franchise.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM (p8A+W)

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Amazon bought MGM has some weirdly confusing series of rights around Bond (EON owns exactly 50% of it, but the heavier side of the 50% that gives it exclusive creative rights), so it's always going to be there for some amount of time through the year.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:45 PM (LvTSG)

355 Claudia Cardinale's tits
________

Inspired, no doubt, by today's art thread selection.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2023 04:45 PM (lf83v)

356 Took my boys to Disneyland 9 years ago to celebrate the end of my cancer treatment. Only time I've ever been and it was a blast! Can't see going back, though.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2023 04:46 PM (Y/u0P)

357 The beach is free.

Posted by: dandydon at July 11, 2023 04:46 PM (29gSO)

358 hiya

Posted by: JT at July 11, 2023 04:46 PM (T4tVD)

359 Huh. First time I've screwed up a link.
C'est la vie.
https://is.gd/XeAC2z

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:46 PM (t0OGg)

360 David Niven is fine as a side character but in no way can carry a movie.

Same with Omar Sharrif.

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2023 04:46 PM (iziT8)

361 When you say they're "like untamed mustangs thundering across the verdant plains," are you talking about Jewell's breasts ... or her teeth?

Posted by: Judgmental Dental at July 11, 2023 04:46 PM (VsUo2)

362 The untamed mustangs are real, and they're spectacular.

Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at July 11, 2023 04:46 PM (2H7D9)

363 Disney owns Hulu? (shit) I just signed up for Hulu in order to watch The Bear. (it's a restaurant thing)
Posted by: jwest at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM (VP9ao)

Love that show - I have Season 2 on my watch list for later this summer. If you're a Food Network fan, the food part is just so watchable...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2023 04:46 PM (exHjb)

364 I liked Craig as Bond. Best Bond since Connery.
_______

Agreed.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2023 04:46 PM (lf83v)

365 While we are in the movie confessional booth I thought the 13th warrior was perfectly decent entertainment.
Posted by: TexasDan at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM (/6gDb

That and another Caviezel movie, Outlander.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:46 PM (MNhXM)

366 Also just realized that Stoppard wrote Empire of the Sun, which was Christian Bale's first movie.

How's that for 'full-circle?'

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 11, 2023 04:47 PM (jzzG8)

367 353 Strictly Ballroom > MOULIN ROUGE
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:45 PM (xcxpd)

=========

I haven't seen Strictly Ballroom in forever. My dad really likes it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:47 PM (LvTSG)

368 Took my boys to Disneyland 9 years ago to celebrate the end of my cancer treatment. Only time I've ever been and it was a blast! Can't see going back, though.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2023 04:46 PM (Y/u0P)
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I've never been. I've been Disney World twice, when I was in high school (once on a school trip, once with a friend who's mom had a timeshare in Orlando). It was fun. I enjoyed EPCOT a lot.

I don't know when it turned, but it sure seems to have turned.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:47 PM (t0OGg)

369 No. She's a pop singer who rose to prominence in the late 90s. She's pretty and has big boobs that can't be hidden but she doesn't have 'em hanging out of her clothes:
https://youtu.be/W3WMMwlHgZI
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Was it late 90s? Thought she had been around the pop music scene since '94, at least. She had a pretty big hit then that got lots of air play at the time. I can't remember the name of it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2023 04:47 PM (sAmhv)

370 IMHO, it was fluffy entertainment.

Nicole Kidman was not hard on the eyes.

The songs were all popular songs of our youth.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 04:47 PM (jgJfd)

371 >>The beach is free.

This guy gets it. But only for residents.

Out of towners pay $15 to park.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2023 04:47 PM (ZLI7S)

372 Mmmmmm…Claudia Cardinale…mmmmmmm…

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2023 04:47 PM (xTRSc)

373 While we are in the movie confessional booth I thought the 13th warrior was perfectly decent entertainment.
Posted by: TexasDan at July 11, 2023 04:43 PM (/6gDb

That and another Caviezel movie, Outlander.
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:46 PM (MNhXM)

Yes. Both very enjoyable.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 11, 2023 04:48 PM (aD39U)

374 I haven't seen Strictly Ballroom in forever. My dad really likes it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:47 PM (LvTSG)

It's very Australian at times, but I find that charming. The leads feel like real people, which makes the romance work for me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:48 PM (xcxpd)

375 Was it late 90s? Thought she had been around the pop music scene since '94, at least. She had a pretty big hit then that got lots of air play at the time. I can't remember the name of it.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2023 04:47 PM (sAmhv)
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No idea when she started. All I remember is that suddenly she was everywhere, and my memory (imperfect, mind you) is that it happened in the late 90s.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:48 PM (t0OGg)

376 300 281 I LOVE MOULIN ROUGE. I FIND IT A WONDERFUL ADVENTURE THROUGH SIGHT AND SOUND AND BAZ LURHMANN'S GREATEST TRIUMPH!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:32 PM (LvTSG)

There is a channel on SiriusXM that only plays showtunes if you're interested. We spent the 4th in Saugatuck (the Provincetown of Michigan) and it was playing all over town.

Posted by: jwest at July 11, 2023 04:48 PM (VP9ao)

377 343 David Craig purses his lips like he's making duck face in action scenes. Completely takes me out of the movie.

Posted by: Regular joe at July 11, 2023 04:48 PM (nnp+f)

378 Disney owns Hulu? (shit) I just signed up for Hulu in order to watch The Bear. (it's a restaurant thing)

It's why you can't get Hulu without commercials unless you also sign up for Disney Minus.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2023 04:48 PM (FD5dr)

379 Oh goody, YouTube has decided to play the Sailor Moon S movie. But it is the English dub.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2023 04:48 PM (22qIH)

380 I love Moulin Rouge.

I tried to tell my idiot sister in law that she would love it.

Stupid bint wouldn't hear a word that I said.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 04:41 PM (jgJfd)

Gah, I hated that movie! I saw it in a mostly empty theater. At one point I yelled at the top of my lungs "This movie is so stupid!" Everyone laughed and nobody told me to shut up.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at July 11, 2023 04:48 PM (6xRrr)

381 368 I've never been. I've been Disney World twice, when I was in high school (once on a school trip, once with a friend who's mom had a timeshare in Orlando). It was fun. I enjoyed EPCOT a lot.

I don't know when it turned, but it sure seems to have turned.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:47 PM (t0OGg)

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Universal's more fun, especially since it's designed with a more "teenager" mentality than a child/family mentality. Lots more rollercoasters.

If you ever do it, though, you have to figure out the fast pass systems at any park. Otherwise you really do spend 75% of your day in lines.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:48 PM (LvTSG)

382 Harrison Ford is one of the worst interviews on earth. Just boring as fuck.

A true master of delivering scripted lines.

Posted by: DOYLE at July 11, 2023 04:49 PM (Z8Yh2)

383 I don't know when it turned, but it sure seems to have turned.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:47 PM (t0OGg)

When they brought in Fast Pass Plus and the monitoring 11 years ago...that's how long it's been since I've gone, and I did go every year for 13 years (and was in my youth - it was my dad's favorite place)...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2023 04:49 PM (exHjb)

384 I didn't SEE a gun pointed at Harrison Ford's head in that Special Message from Harrison Ford, but there had to have been one. Maybe just off-camera.
__________

They were holding his wife, Calista Flockhart, hostage just off camera and threatening to make her to eat a donut.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2023 04:49 PM (lf83v)

385 Strictly Ballroom > MOULIN ROUGE

Show me your pasodoble.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 11, 2023 04:49 PM (aD39U)

386 374 I haven't seen Strictly Ballroom in forever. My dad really likes it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:47 PM (LvTSG)

It's very Australian at times, but I find that charming. The leads feel like real people, which makes the romance work for me.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:48 PM (xcxpd)

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Going through Peter Weir right now, the Australian cinema interests me.

Did you know there was a 3 year period in the 60s when Australia didn't make a single film?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:49 PM (LvTSG)

387 Was it late 90s? Thought she had been around the pop music scene since '94, at least. She had a pretty big hit then that got lots of air play at the time. I can't remember the name of it.

"Who Will Save Your Soul?" and "You Were Meant for Me" were her big breakout hits in 1996

Posted by: brak at July 11, 2023 04:49 PM (3BMQI)

388 Empire of the Sun is an awesome flick.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2023 04:49 PM (xTRSc)

389 Its too bad that Michael Crichton became unpersoned by Hollywood because he has several books that should be either remade or done as a film the first time. Looker desperately needs a modern remake, particularly with deepfake and AI being so trendy. Dragon Teeth is a great adventure romp with history mixed in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:49 PM (0hOvj)

390 I hated EPCOT.

Disneyland in the 60's and 70's was great.

My wife and I went on a Tuesday in October. No line for Space Mountain. I counted. We rode it 10 times.

6pm comes and I say. Wanna go home?

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 04:50 PM (jgJfd)

391 Didn't Harrison Ford try to land his plane on the taxiway once?

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2023 04:50 PM (iziT8)

392 Craig purses his lips like he's making duck face in action scenes. Completely takes me out of the movie.

That's his patented Puckered Face Anus of Adventure.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at July 11, 2023 04:50 PM (ppBhU)

393 There was a gun, already! Pointed at Harrison Ford to make him say those words!

Posted by: m

Ah, but what kind of gun? What caliber? What does the mag hold?

Speaking of guns, watched the first 4 episodes of Jack Ryan. I think it's pretty good. I really like Krasinski. He was a brilliant choice for the role.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 11, 2023 04:50 PM (t/2Uw)

394 David Craig purses his lips like he's making duck face in action scenes. Completely takes me out of the movie.
___________

I'm not seeing it.

Posted by: Renee Zellweiger at July 11, 2023 04:50 PM (lf83v)

395 "Who Will Save Your Soul?" and "You Were Meant for Me" were her big breakout hits in 1996
Posted by: brak at July 11, 2023 04:49 PM (3BMQI)
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Okay. So mid-90s. I was remembering wrong.

I shall go commit seppuku.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:50 PM (t0OGg)

396 COSTCO says... STAR OF DEATH for Bud Light * it will not be restocked. 🍻

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2023 04:50 PM (RHGPo)

397 Whoreywood will NEVER make "State of Fear."

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 04:50 PM (jgJfd)

398 Apropos of nothing, I watched A Farewell to Arms last weekend on an old movie channel. My God was it bad. Rock Hudson and Jennifer Jones as lovers was a bad idea. Jones was 38 playing a 24 year old and she and Hudson have zero chemistry. Bad production all around. I read that Hemmingway hated it as well mostly due to Selznick placing his wife Jones in that role. He wrote Selznick a nasty letter talking about putting his aging wife in the film to play a 24 year old. Hemmingway was supposed to get a percentage of every $50K made on the film. Hemmingway told Selznick that if the picture ever made $50K, to take it to the bank, buy that amount in nickels, and shove it up his ass until the nickels came out his mouth. It ended Selznick's career - he neve made a movie after that.

Posted by: Cheri at July 11, 2023 04:50 PM (oiNtH)

399 400!

Posted by: m at July 11, 2023 04:51 PM (LdYi7)

400 Going through Peter Weir right now, the Australian cinema interests me.

Did you know there was a 3 year period in the 60s when Australia didn't make a single film?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:49 PM (LvTSG)

Well, it's a small population but that's very sad.
I like Peter Weir. The Last Wave is spooky. Master and Commander is a masterpiece.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:51 PM (xcxpd)

401 399 400!
Posted by: m at July 11, 2023 04:51 PM (LdYi7)

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2 for 2!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:51 PM (LvTSG)

402 LOL

Posted by: m at July 11, 2023 04:51 PM (LdYi7)

403 Has JackStraw ever crashed on a boat?
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Fixed.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at July 11, 2023 04:51 PM (krqg6)

404 well, if folks are going to bring up all my old crushes, Casual Sex (1989) had brief but wonderful moment of Lea Thompson's and (conservative)Victoria Jackson's buns as they are sunning themselves... ahh....

Posted by: ziggggyyyyeeee at July 11, 2023 04:52 PM (nJgbt)

405 Gucci store in Union Sq was robbed at gunpoint by a gang of 6 yesterday at 3:30mpm, police chased them down the peninsula but "lost" them. Such a shame.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2023 04:52 PM (RIvkX)

406 David Craig purses his lips like he's making duck face in action scenes. Completely takes me out of the movie.
___________

I'm not seeing it.
___________

Me neither.

Posted by: Derek Zoolander at July 11, 2023 04:52 PM (lf83v)

407 Without googling I want to say who will save your soul came out in 1996 and that’s when Jewel was yuuuge.

Posted by: Montec at July 11, 2023 04:52 PM (KK6O+)

408 Universal is a perfectly good alternative to Disney World.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:52 PM (MNhXM)

409 Okay. So mid-90s. I was remembering wrong.

I shall go commit seppuku.

MTV still occasionally played videos then and I was a teenager who thought she was hot so it made a lasting memory

Posted by: brak at July 11, 2023 04:52 PM (3BMQI)

410 You paid $6000 to spend a weekend at the Galactic Starcruiser with Rey Palpatine, Dark Helmet I mean Kyle Ren and the rest of the sequel characters. No Luke no Leia no Han never mind Darth Vader, Obi-Wan or Anakin. Sheer fucking hubris.

Posted by: Rse at July 11, 2023 04:52 PM (nos7q)

411 O.K. I do remember the song "Who will save your soul?" but if anyone asked with who had sung it, I would have had no idea.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2023 04:52 PM (Keyt1)

412 Disneyland in the 60's and 70's was great.

My wife and I went on a Tuesday in October. No line for Space Mountain. I counted. We rode it 10 times.

6pm comes and I say. Wanna go home?

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 04:50 PM (jgJfd)

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My dad worked for a company in the mid-80's that would rent Disneyland for the day for their employees and families. No lines for anything. It was great.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2023 04:52 PM (DRSnL)

413 400 Well, it's a small population but that's very sad.
I like Peter Weir. The Last Wave is spooky. Master and Commander is a masterpiece.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:51 PM (xcxpd)

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There's an essay with the Criterion release of Picnic at Hanging Rock that gives a brief outline. Australia was actually really active in the silent era, but it seems like they struggled with early sound and then WWII sapped everything else, putting it on a downward path to complete irrelevancy.

The only thing that rebirthed it was government subsidies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:52 PM (LvTSG)

414 Ok, mid 90s. I drank a lot in the 90s. It all kind of blends.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 11, 2023 04:53 PM (sAmhv)

415 Lucas originally wanted Marion to mention she was 11 when she was with Indy, and he was talked out of specifying that. So Indy kind of went from one groomer to another if you think about it.

Posted by: Bete at July 11, 2023 04:53 PM (PYoBO)

416 CRT, Dragon Teeth is a great book!! And yes it would make a great movie. It was such a surprise. Totally unexpected from Chrichton.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 11, 2023 04:53 PM (t/2Uw)

417 385 Strictly Ballroom > MOULIN ROUGE

Show me your pasodoble.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 11, 2023 04:49 PM (aD39U)

This man, he gets it.

And the scenes when the father is trying (and mostly failing) to talk to his son...those really get to me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:53 PM (xcxpd)

418 398 Apropos of nothing, I watched A Farewell to Arms last weekend on an old movie channel. My God was it bad. Rock Hudson and Jennifer Jones as lovers was a bad idea. Jones was 38 playing a 24 year old and she and Hudson have zero chemistry. Bad production all around. I read that Hemmingway hated it as well mostly due to Selznick placing his wife Jones in that role. He wrote Selznick a nasty letter talking about putting his aging wife in the film to play a 24 year old. Hemmingway was supposed to get a percentage of every $50K made on the film. Hemmingway told Selznick that if the picture ever made $50K, to take it to the bank, buy that amount in nickels, and shove it up his ass until the nickels came out his mouth. It ended Selznick's career - he neve made a movie after that.
Posted by: Cheri at July 11, 2023 04:50 PM (oiNtH)

hahahahaha
I'm glad you paused to type that up!

Posted by: m at July 11, 2023 04:53 PM (LdYi7)

419 359 Huh. First time I've screwed up a link.
C'est la vie.
https://is.gd/XeAC2z
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:46 PM (t0OGg)

Thats a bodacious pair of tatas, but I suspect they were born of a caulking gun.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 11, 2023 04:53 PM (pohLc)

420 400

Well, it's a small population but that's very sad.
I like Peter Weir. The Last Wave is spooky. Master and Commander is a masterpiece.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:51 PM (xcxpd)

Who are you Who are you Who are you Who are you……….

Posted by: tubal at July 11, 2023 04:53 PM (PCK5/)

421 408 Universal is a perfectly good alternative to Disney World.
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:52 PM (MNhXM)

Better. It has butterbeer.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:54 PM (xcxpd)

422 Off by 1 year. It was 1995.

Posted by: Montec at July 11, 2023 04:54 PM (KK6O+)

423 https://ytube.io/3gfR

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 11, 2023 04:54 PM (aD39U)

424 For the movie The Craft Jewel performed "Under the Water."

https://youtu.be/X-3Go1gOdLo

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2023 04:54 PM (22qIH)

425 421 Better. It has butterbeer.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:54 PM (xcxpd)

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Bring vodka in a water bottle.

Add vodka to butterbeer.

#lifehack

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:54 PM (LvTSG)

426 An MSNBC article from last year that seriously argued being fit and healthy its a ‘gateway drug’ to becoming a ‘Neo-Nazi’ has resurfaced after both Joe Rogan and Elon Musk tweeted about how insane it is.

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2023 04:54 PM (RHGPo)

427 Jewel is a gem.

so, hot

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 11, 2023 04:54 PM (NtVYv)

428
Eh, ticket price aside, people have blown thousands of $$$ on their Disney trips for as long as I can remember. The place is a money pit, and that was before inflation and the part where Mickey wants to bugger your kids and give them Giant Commie Ratpox.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2023 04:54 PM (oINRc)

429 There’s some movie, set in the American West, that has a knock-down-drag-out fight scene with Claudia Cardinale versus Brigitte Bardot.

Saw it on You Tube once when I was laid up following leg surgery. I felt guilty watching it, but it sure was fun at the time.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2023 04:54 PM (xTRSc)

430 News I was confident I would never read: Parole given to Manson Family member convicted of murder.

"BREAKING NEWS: Manson family killer Leslie Van Houten, 73, is released from prison after serving 53 years of a life sentence"

So, Gavin Newsom continues pandering to the criminal element and to some crazy liberals who have been pushing for her parole for years and years.

Two other Manson Familiy murders remain in prison with life sentences, Tex Watson and Patricia Krenwinkle.

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2023 04:54 PM (AMIL/)

431
They should have just recast and made Chris Pratt Indiana Jones, back in the 30s where he belongs, like ten million people told them to do.
Posted by: ace at July 11, 2023 04:08 PM (KRtlO)

The first three movies had supporting characters, any of which were brave enough and flashy enough to be their own main character. Imagine instead of grinding out another Indy, they could flip out something parallel that just needs the world and supposition and not the whole Indy backstory to freeze the whole story into "canon"
Imagine [someone else] saving things in Abyssinia or Lybia while the Italians are chasing him/her around? Maybe dodging insane Austrian noblemen in Transylvania or Hungary among rumors of werewolves?
Solid characters white knuckling it through the pursuit of a MacGuffin while the world collapses into insanity is the best plot ever

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2023 04:55 PM (xhaym)

432 Going through Peter Weir right now, the Australian cinema interests me.

Did you know there was a 3 year period in the 60s when Australia didn't make a single film?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:49 PM (LvTSG)

Man From Snowy River

Farscape

Mr In Between

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:55 PM (MNhXM)

433 Disneyland would often "rent" out the park in the off-season. My buddy went to "General Dynamics" night. I went to Rohr night.

8pm to 1am. Unlimited rides. Some rides would be closed for "refurbishment."

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 04:55 PM (jgJfd)

434 Interesting. Walt Disney World Resort is unionized, Comcast not. Progressive Caucus will be watching.

@ BernieSanders
Comcast is one of the eight multinational media companies that control the news you watch, read, and hear. Shock of shocks. They are deploying illegal anti-union tactics against their employees. Media workers, like all workers, must be allowed to organize free of intimidation.

Quote Tweet Josh Eidelson
@ josheidelson
Apr 18
Scoop: NBC Universal held a role play for managers on preventing unionization, in which it said “It is a well established, unwritten policy for NBC Universal managers that the continuing nonunion status of union-free operations is a condition of employment.” (More at Bloomberg News) Apr 19, 2023

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They known their enemy. at July 11, 2023 04:55 PM (GshMh)

435 389 ... Dragon Teeth is a great adventure romp with history mixed in.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

It's not nice to talk about Jewell's teeth that way.

Posted by: Oops! I did it again! at July 11, 2023 04:55 PM (VsUo2)

436 Speaking of guns, watched the first 4 episodes of Jack Ryan. I think it's pretty good. I really like Krasinski. He was a brilliant choice for the role.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 11, 2023 04:50 PM

Yea it's pretty good.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 11, 2023 04:56 PM (xdNDi)

437 I LOVE MOULIN ROUGE. I FIND IT A WONDERFUL ADVENTURE THROUGH SIGHT AND SOUND AND BAZ LURHMANN'S GREATEST TRIUMPH!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 04:32 PM (LvTSG)
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I liked it as well however, Lurhmann's frenetic editing cuts were a bit much for me. Music was great and Kidman and McGregor had good on screen chemistry.

Posted by: WisRich at July 11, 2023 04:56 PM (G0vdT)

438 Two other Manson Familiy murders remain in prison with life sentences, Tex Watson and Patricia Krenwinkle.

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2023 04:54 PM (AMIL/) \

Yikes! Meant to type
Two other Manson Family murderers remain in prison with life sentences, Tex Watson and Patricia Krenwinkle.

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2023 04:56 PM (AMIL/)

439 Watched the first Extraction movie. Meh, it was like a bad Kung Fu movie.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 11, 2023 04:56 PM (xdNDi)

440 > Better. It has butterbeer.

Isn't Butterbeer like 3,500 calories apiece?

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2023 04:56 PM (R38qh)

441 Magic Mountain is so much more fun than Disneyland.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 04:57 PM (jgJfd)

442 >>Huh. First time I've screwed up a link.
C'est la vie.

no worries Joe but we will miss a weeks worth of discerning commentary that introduces these girls

Posted by: DanMan at July 11, 2023 04:57 PM (DB6tu)

443 426 An MSNBC article from last year that seriously argued being fit and healthy its a ‘gateway drug’ to becoming a ‘Neo-Nazi’ has resurfaced after both Joe Rogan and Elon Musk tweeted about how insane it is.
Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2023 04:54 PM (RHGPo)

It really is amazing what the left will admit about themselves.

Fitness is a bad thing, blacks can't succeed on merit and movies about disrupting child trafficking rings are just awful.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2023 04:57 PM (KbCG3)

444 "BREAKING NEWS: Manson family killer Leslie Van Houten, 73, is released from prison after serving 53 years of a life sentence"
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Life sentence means nothing. That's why we need the death penalty.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2023 04:57 PM (lf83v)

445 My gal and I did the Disneyland Thankgiving Buffet a few years ago. Food was killer, coffee was the best I ever had.

Posted by: DOYLE at July 11, 2023 04:57 PM (Z8Yh2)

446 It's why you can't get Hulu without commercials unless you also sign up for Disney Minus.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2023 04:48 PM (FD5dr)

I didn't read the fine print, but they whacked me $14.95/month for (what I thought) was only no-commercials Hulu.

Posted by: jwest at July 11, 2023 04:57 PM (VP9ao)

447 Disneyland would often "rent" out the park in the off-season. My buddy went to "General Dynamics" night. I went to Rohr night.

8pm to 1am. Unlimited rides. Some rides would be closed for "refurbishment."
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 04:55 PM (jgJfd)

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My dad worked at Rohr.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2023 04:57 PM (DRSnL)

448 Just turn the Disney properties into high-end gay sex clubs!

Problem solved!

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at July 11, 2023 04:57 PM (2tUFv)

449 Dragon Teeth is a great book!! And yes it would make a great movie.

Apparently it was a very early book which for some bizarre reason the publishing houses all turned down. Didn't get published until after his death.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:57 PM (0hOvj)

450 >>> Harrison Ford, who smokes more pot than JackStraw, is reduced to babbling that this movie was made "for the fans."

He loves us so much he made the movie complete crap so we don't miss him.

Posted by: DJ at July 11, 2023 04:57 PM (uosPt)

451 "Apropos of nothing, I watched A Farewell to Arms last weekend on an old movie channel. My God was it bad. Rock Hudson and Jennifer Jones as lovers was a bad idea."
never saw this one...Rock could have excellent chemistry with women, like Doris Day, and Susan Saint James .they remade so many 30s and 40s films in the 50s, they kind of realized it was a bad idea and got away from lame remakes...for awhile. Sadly enough, well, you know....that didn't last.

Posted by: ziggggyyyyeeee at July 11, 2023 04:57 PM (nJgbt)

452 Magic Mountain is so much more fun than Disneyland.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 04:57 PM (jgJfd)

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Yep. So is Knott's.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2023 04:57 PM (DRSnL)

453 One interesting question to ask in all of this is why is Disney getting so into gay/tranny/groomer issues.

Remember their market segment is theoretically parents with children. And gay/trans/groomer people have far, far fewer kids then straight people do.

So there is no way going extreme gay/trans/groomer was going to get you more sales - it would be a like a beer company marketing to pre-teen girls/people that want to have sex with fake pre-teen girls (hi Budweiser!)

And the answer of course is that the elites running our country, who include the Disney leadership, want grooming to be normalized even if it costs them money.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2023 04:57 PM (lc5cP)

454 The middle class is not accidentally caught up in something. The middle class is the damned target.

The middle class is the definition of "bourgeoisie".

Marxism doesn't target elites: It targets the middle class. Period.

Posted by: cpurick at July 11, 2023 04:58 PM (bwWDS)

455 439 Watched the first Extraction movie. Meh, it was like a bad Kung Fu movie.
Posted by: Minnfidel

Jewell could have used a couple of Extractions.

Posted by: Orin Scrivello D.D.S. at July 11, 2023 04:58 PM (VsUo2)

456 The bank my dad worked for in the early 80s used to rent out Six Flags Over Texas and invite employees and their families. It was freaking awesome.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2023 04:58 PM (UlRld)

457 I think an actor could gain popularity by saying "F*ck off, I don't talk about politics, I'm an actor" and then go on an unhinged Twitter rant about how they are tired of being asked to endorse every political position or social position when they just want to practice their art.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 11, 2023 04:58 PM (/11g9)

458 Wasn't The Gods Must Be Crazy an Oz production? I love that movie

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:58 PM (0hOvj)

459 it has been pointed out that the real inspiration for the sting was... Jeffrey Epstein. Apparently the film avoided using that name because, well, I guess Hollywood doesn't want to talk about Jeffrey Epstein

The movie was filmed in 2018. Jeffrey Epstein was arrested and didn't kill himself in 2019.

Posted by: Chuck C at July 11, 2023 04:59 PM (xttsV)

460 440 > Better. It has butterbeer.

Isn't Butterbeer like 3,500 calories apiece?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2023 04:56 PM (R38qh)

Probably. Totally worth it too.
They serve it hot and cold, normal and alcoholic there. I think I drank six of them.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:59 PM (xcxpd)

461 379 Would you like to borrow the VHS (subbed of course) Pioneer DVD or blu ray?

Posted by: Bete at July 11, 2023 04:59 PM (PYoBO)

462 A little known fact. Before Magic Mountain opened, Disneyland sold books of tickets. A-E. And "E-ticket" was the best rides. Magic Mountain opened with a flat price and no tickets.

Disneyland soon went to that model.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 04:59 PM (jgJfd)

463 So, I see that I’ve stumbled into a movie thread.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2023 04:33

And a boob thread!

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 11, 2023 04:59 PM (kjOVp)

464 Australian movie some may not like but I loved it . A semi post apocalyptic story.

The Rover.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:59 PM (MNhXM)

465 I saw Giant Commie Ratpox open for Pantera at the Ogden in '99.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 11, 2023 04:59 PM (t0OGg)

466 Imagine [someone else] saving things in Abyssinia or ~~Lybia~~ Labia while the Italians are chasing him/her around?
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Fixed.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at July 11, 2023 04:59 PM (krqg6)

467 Wasn't The Gods Must Be Crazy an Oz production?

South African.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at July 11, 2023 04:59 PM (2tUFv)

468 "BREAKING NEWS: Manson family killer Leslie Van Houten, 73, is released from prison after serving 53 years of a life sentence"
___________

Life sentence means nothing. That's why we need the death penalty.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2023 04:57 PM (lf83v)

She was sentenced to death.

She got better.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 11, 2023 05:00 PM (aD39U)

469 "BREAKING NEWS: Manson family killer Leslie Van Houten, 73, is released from prison after serving 53 years of a life sentence"

So, Gavin Newsom continues pandering to the criminal element and to some crazy liberals who have been pushing for her parole for years and years.

Newsom denied Van Houten parole. Some commie judge overruled him. Newsom decided not to challenge.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2023 05:00 PM (R38qh)

470 452 So is Knott’s.

Except for that one security guard who’s always telling people to “Nip it!”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2023 05:00 PM (xTRSc)

471 A little known fact. Before Magic Mountain opened, Disneyland sold books of tickets. A-E. And "E-ticket" was the best rides.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 04:59 PM (jgJfd)

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Growing up we had a drawer full of books of tickets with just A's and B's in them.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2023 05:00 PM (DRSnL)

472 They say the Pledge of Allegiance at Knotts when the park opens.

I also recommend eating at the Knotts restaurant.

Posted by: DOYLE at July 11, 2023 05:00 PM (Z8Yh2)

473 463 So, I see that I’ve stumbled into a movie thread.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2023 04:33

And a boob thread!
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus

And a teeth thread!

Posted by: "Doc" Holliday at July 11, 2023 05:00 PM (VsUo2)

474 463 So, I see that I’ve stumbled into a movie thread.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2023 04:33

And a boob thread!
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 11, 2023 04:59 PM (kjOVp)

What were the chances!

Posted by: m at July 11, 2023 05:00 PM (LdYi7)

475 Its too bad that Michael Crichton became unpersoned by Hollywood because he has several books that should be either remade or done as a film the first time. Looker desperately needs a modern remake, particularly with deepfake and AI being so trendy. Dragon Teeth is a great adventure romp with history mixed in.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:49 PM (0hOvj)

F. Paul Wilson's The Tomb, the first Repairman Jack novel, also

Crichton got depersoned in sci fi for not grinding like the rest of the authors, and unpersoned for writing State of Fear

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2023 05:01 PM (xhaym)

476 Speaking of guns, watched the first 4 episodes of Jack Ryan. I think it's pretty good. I really like Krasinski. He was a brilliant choice for the role.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 11, 2023 04:50 PM
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I'm liking it but the action scenes seem to have encountered budget cuts. Script sub par as well.

The bad guy encounter in Croatia? C'mon man!

Posted by: WisRich at July 11, 2023 05:01 PM (G0vdT)

477 COSTCO says... STAR OF DEATH for Bud Light * it will not be restocked. 🍻
Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2023 04:50
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Link?

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 11, 2023 05:01 PM (ju2Fy)

478 Disneyland was over for me in 1977. Our after graduation party was at the house of Mouse. Our school, along with what appeared to about 10K other schools were there and the lines were staggeringly long. At that point, I was done.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at July 11, 2023 05:01 PM (2YtOq)

479 Manson family killer Leslie Van Houten, 73, is released from prison after serving 53 years of a life sentence"

Newsome specifically refused to stop the release, which he could have.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 05:01 PM (0hOvj)

480 Apparently it was a very early book which for some bizarre reason the publishing houses all turned down. Didn't get published until after his death.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:57 PM (0hOvj)

I'm intrigued, although I wasted good money on Pirate Latitudes, which was another early novel of his which didn't get published until after he passed ... and should not have been published.

Posted by: spindrift at July 11, 2023 05:01 PM (Mv5p/)

481 Australian movie some may not like but I loved it . A semi post apocalyptic story.

The Rover.
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:59 PM (MNhXM)

What's in the boot?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 11, 2023 05:01 PM (aD39U)

482 Jewell could have used a couple of Extractions.
Posted by: Orin Scrivello D.D.S. at July 11, 2023 04:58 PM

Disagree. I think insertions are a better idea for her.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 11, 2023 05:01 PM (xdNDi)

483 444 "BREAKING NEWS: Manson family killer Leslie Van Houten, 73, is released from prison after serving 53 years of a life sentence"
___________

Life sentence means nothing. That's why we need the death penalty.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 11, 2023 04:57 PM (lf83v)

Yup. All six of them were given the death penalty at trial. Reduced to life a year or two later, after SCOTUS ruled all current death penalty laws were unconstitutional.

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2023 05:01 PM (AMIL/)

484 The chick in The Gods Must Be Crazy had a nice rack, IIRC.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2023 05:01 PM (xTRSc)

485 I think an actor could gain popularity by saying "F*ck off, I don't talk about politics, I'm an actor" and then go on an unhinged Twitter rant about how they are tired of being asked to endorse every political position or social position when they just want to practice their art.

These people are forced to have sex with producers to get roles. Do you think they are going to go that far and then stop when they have to mouth some platitudes they don't believe in about gay/trans/whatever rights?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2023 05:02 PM (lc5cP)

486 470 452 So is Knott’s.

Except for that one security guard who’s always telling people to “Nip it!”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Back to the boob thread again, I see.

Posted by: Varla at July 11, 2023 05:02 PM (VsUo2)

487 Growing up we had a drawer full of books of tickets with just A's and B's in them.
Posted by: Jordan61

We did too. We also used the expression for something that is really cool - "It's an E-Ticket". It seems like a hundred years ago.

Posted by: Cheri at July 11, 2023 05:02 PM (oiNtH)

488 I don't think it's not so much the cost driving attendance down. It's that people are seeing what kind of evil shit Disney is into and not going out of principal. What's an extra 100 bucks a day at the mouse house. We could afford to take our kids again, but won't, because eff them.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 11, 2023 05:03 PM (xdNDi)

489 I'm intrigued, although I wasted good money on Pirate Latitudes, which was another early novel of his which didn't get published until after he passed

He wrote a couple of really unfortunate books under a pen name, like Florida action books that I tried and regret doing so. It takes a while to get into your groove as a writer, usually.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 05:03 PM (0hOvj)

490 Manson family killer Leslie Van Houten, 73, is released from prison after serving 53 years of a life sentence"

Newsome specifically refused to stop the release, which he could have.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 05:01 PM (0hOvj)

She deserved to die. Stupid CA supreme court.

Posted by: Archer at July 11, 2023 05:03 PM (gmo/4)

491 My dad could have bought "Magic Kingdom Club" tickets. It's a book of E tickets.

He didn't know.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 05:03 PM (jgJfd)

492 "Shane" is the President Donald J. Trump story, totally, completely, and seriously.

Posted by: Schroedinger's Cat Wears the Emperor's New Clothes at July 11, 2023 05:03 PM (bWR5k)

493 She will die.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 05:04 PM (jgJfd)

494 True story: Dad took the family on a trip to Busch Gardens in Los Angeles...It was gone. Brewery expansion.

Posted by: DOYLE at July 11, 2023 05:04 PM (Z8Yh2)

495 O.K. I do remember the song "Who will save your soul?" but if anyone asked with who had sung it, I would have had no idea.

That song came out not too long after I read the "Illuminatus" trilogy of books. I parodied it as "Who will eat your soul?" with lots of Shoggoth references.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 11, 2023 05:04 PM (Bd6X8)

496 I'm still with George Carlin on this.

"F*** Mickey Mouse! F*** him in the ass with a big rubber dick! And then break it off and beat him with it! I hope he gets a hold of some tainted cheese, and dies lonely and forgotten behind the baseboard of a soiled bathroom in a poor neighborhood, with his hand in Goofy's pants."

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 11, 2023 05:04 PM (kjOVp)

497 494 True story: Dad took the family on a trip to Busch Gardens in Los Angeles...It was gone. Brewery expansion.

Posted by: DOYLE at July 11, 2023 05:04 PM (Z8Yh2)

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Moose out front should have told ya.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 05:05 PM (LvTSG)

498 >>Wasn't The Gods Must Be Crazy an Oz production?

>>South African.

My sister was living in Botswana when that film was released. It was a big deal over there.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2023 05:05 PM (ZLI7S)

499 I liked Pirate Latitudes. It's not his best. But after reading everything else he ever wrote, I was desperate.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 05:05 PM (jgJfd)

500 COSTCO says... STAR OF DEATH for Bud Light * it will not be restocked. 🍻
Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2023 04:50
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That would be interesting.

Posted by: WisRich at July 11, 2023 05:05 PM (G0vdT)

501 She deserved to die. Stupid CA supreme court.

How they came up with a constitutional prohibition to the death penalty is a puzzler. It might (but is not usually) be cruel, but it was surely not unusual, particularly at the time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 05:05 PM (0hOvj)

502 STAR OF DEATH for Bud Light * it will not be restocked. 🍻
Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2023 04:50

That's no moon.

Posted by: Archer at July 11, 2023 05:06 PM (gmo/4)

503 What's in the boot?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 11, 2023 05:01 PM (aD39U

No spoilers 😀

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 05:06 PM (MNhXM)

504 >> The chick in The Gods Must Be Crazy had a nice rack, IIRC.

If Bandersnatch were here you would have a name, and a Timestamp.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2023 05:06 PM (EPupa)

505 Shoot, I was reading comments.

Posted by: m at July 11, 2023 05:06 PM (LdYi7)

506 > Newsome specifically refused to stop the release, which he could have.

The parole board has recommended parole several times for Van Houten. Newsom always blocked it. This time, Newsom blocked it, a commie judge said no, and Newsom decided not to fight the judge.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2023 05:06 PM (R38qh)

507 I'm still with George Carlin on this.

The older I get, the more George Carlin's rants make sense.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 05:06 PM (0hOvj)

508 And these narcissistic idiots have decided that they will make their products only for their fellow aristocrats -- even when their product has always been made for the middle or working classes.

Geraghty sees the same connection

I think there is more to this you're not talking about. Disney represents a travel vacation for families. The left has universally decided lower and middle classes should no longer get to travel outside of their employment. And that destination travel vacations, and many other forms of premium entertainment and leisure are ***only*** for the rich and powerful. Those things should not be wasted on proles.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 11, 2023 05:06 PM (AmpGx)

509 Photos shared on social media show that Bud Light has allegedly received Costco's so-called "star of death"—a small asterisk at the top right-hand corner of items' price tags which the retailer uses to signal a product will no longer be restocked once it is sold out.

https://bityl.co/Jnep

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 11, 2023 05:07 PM (aD39U)

510 Didn't Disnuh also change the Pirates of The Carribean to some PC crap?

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 11, 2023 05:07 PM (xdNDi)

511 What did the Mouse do to tick off Carlin so much?

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 11, 2023 05:07 PM (ju2Fy)

512 We did too. We also used the expression for something that is really cool - "It's an E-Ticket". It seems like a hundred years ago.
Posted by: Cheri at July 11, 2023 05:02 PM (oiNtH)

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I mean, there were only so many times you could do the Swiss Family Robinson treehouse thing.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2023 05:07 PM (DRSnL)

513 My father took us the spring after the park opened, so 1972. We stayed in a wing at the Contemporary where the price was $27. That is about $200 in 2023 money. The price of a wing room there now? Over $800.

Posted by: Ann at July 11, 2023 05:07 PM (ilNea)

514 398 I watched A Farewell to Arms last weekend on an old movie channel.

*sob*

Posted by: michelle fields at July 11, 2023 05:07 PM (oY6Yp)

515 Astro World has a lot of good memories for me. And not just as a kid .

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 05:07 PM (MNhXM)

516 506 > Newsome specifically refused to stop the release, which he could have.

The parole board has recommended parole several times for Van Houten. Newsom always blocked it. This time, Newsom blocked it, a commie judge said no, and Newsom decided not to fight the judge.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2023 05:06 PM (R38qh)

Thanks for the details.

Posted by: m at July 11, 2023 05:08 PM (LdYi7)

517 Wasn't The Gods Must Be Crazy an Oz production? I love that movie
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 04:58 PM (0hOvj)

South African. And I am told that for SA at the time, it was considered pretty racy

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2023 05:08 PM (xhaym)

518 I liked Pirate Latitudes. It's not his best. But after reading everything else he ever wrote, I was desperate.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 05:05 PM (jgJfd)

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Didn't they find that after he died and someone else finished it? I liked it okay.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 11, 2023 05:08 PM (DRSnL)

519 TJM, you’re watching Peter Weir? Have you seen Gallipoli yet?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2023 05:09 PM (xTRSc)

520 469 "BREAKING NEWS: Manson family killer Leslie Van Houten, 73, is released from prison after serving 53 years of a life sentence"

So Sharon Tate’s butchered baby would be in her 50s, if these monsters hadn’t cut her out of her mom’s stomach.

Posted by: LASue at July 11, 2023 05:09 PM (Ed8Zd)

521 506 > Newsome specifically refused to stop the release, which he could have.

The parole board has recommended parole several times for Van Houten. Newsom always blocked it. This time, Newsom blocked it, a commie judge said no, and Newsom decided not to fight the judge.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2023 05:06 PM (R38qh)

That makes Newsom look somewhat less repulsive, maybe.

Posted by: m at July 11, 2023 05:09 PM (LdYi7)

522 Disney was long known for its fanatical protection of copyright, they'd send gestapo to kick the door in if your kid drew mickey mouse and you put it on your refrigerator. They've always been jerks, they're just awful perverted jerks now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 05:09 PM (0hOvj)

523 Since when does a judge get to override a governor’s constitutional power?

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 05:10 PM (MNhXM)

524 What did the Mouse do to tick off Carlin so much?
Posted by: olddog

Carlin was ranting that American news companies devoted valuable television time to celebrate the birthday of an imaginary mouse, and that was why nobody took us seriously any more.

He was right.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 11, 2023 05:10 PM (kjOVp)

525 519 TJM, you’re watching Peter Weir? Have you seen Gallipoli yet?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2023 05:09 PM (xTRSc)

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Yup. I'd seen it long ago (it's in my dad's VHS collection), but it's the first time since I was probably 16.

I question some of the history, but I don't think it diminishes the film's power. It's everything the original All Quiet on the Western Front wanted to be.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 05:10 PM (LvTSG)

526
Rock Hudson and Jennifer Jones as lovers was a bad idea."

Posted by: ziggggyyyyeeee

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Jennifer Jones as a heroine whose long, blonde hair figured constantly in the novel, symbolizing I don't know what-all and delighting Frederick Henry to no end.

She became a perky-bobbed brunette. Yeah, she "took it down" in a scene or two, but it was in a do that was a total disguise as a 50s whatever those things were. Half bouffant, half poodle cut, half something else.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2023 05:10 PM (AxmOr)

527 A Farewell to Arms?

Is that the one where the hero is a Red Cross Ambulance man and the woman is a British nurse in WWI Italy?

And they escape to Switzerland?

If so, I read the book.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 11, 2023 05:10 PM (jgJfd)

528 I saw Biden did not attend a NATO Dinner and Gay Boy Blinken had to go. That must have been a big Weight Training session for Biden to be that tired. What STUD and when I grow up I want to be a Manly man like my President....... Joe " The Rock" Biden !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at July 11, 2023 05:10 PM (y9QBQ)

529 So Sharon Tate’s butchered baby would be in her 50s, if these monsters hadn’t cut her out of her mom’s stomach.
Posted by: LASue at July 11, 2023 05:09 PM (Ed8Zd)
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Left: everyone deserves a second chance, a shot at redemption!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2023 05:10 PM (RIvkX)

530 523 Since when does a judge get to override a governor’s constitutional power?
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 05:10 PM (MNhXM)

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Since a judge decided to try and the governor decided to just cede the power.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 05:11 PM (LvTSG)

531 South Africa doesn't have much of a movie industry but they have put out some great stuff in the past. District 9 is great sci fi and I really liked Chappie (from the same director).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 05:11 PM (0hOvj)

532 481 Australian movie some may not like but I loved it . A semi post apocalyptic story.

The Rover.
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:59 PM (MNhXM)

What's in the boot?

a friend of mine had something unusual in the boot

Posted by: otto partes at July 11, 2023 05:11 PM (oY6Yp)

533 My bad: an imaginary *rodent*, which makes the bit funnier.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 11, 2023 05:11 PM (kjOVp)

534 530 523 Since when does a judge get to override a governor’s constitutional power?
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 05:10 PM (MNhXM)

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Since a judge decided to try and the governor decided to just cede the power.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 05:11 PM (LvTSG)

Funny how often that happens.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 11, 2023 05:11 PM (eYoxG)

535 Nood confidence

Posted by: Inogame at July 11, 2023 05:11 PM (53oGX)

536 > Disney was long known for its fanatical protection of copyright, they'd send gestapo to kick the door in if your kid drew mickey mouse and you put it on your refrigerator. They've always been jerks, they're just awful perverted jerks now.

He's not even exaggerating much. Back in the myspace days, Disney would go after actual children for putting up their favorite Disney characters on their myspace page.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2023 05:12 PM (R38qh)

537 525 The final scene of Gallipoli makes me tear up.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 11, 2023 05:12 PM (xTRSc)

538 The Rover.
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2023 04:59 PM (MNhXM)

Great movie

Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at July 11, 2023 05:12 PM (OgrpQ)

539 88 >One week at the Disney properties, guide for only one day, tickets, food, etc. - a bit over $30,000. Never again.

Posted by: jwest at July 11, 2023 04:07 PM (VP9ao)

Cost more than the house I grew up in. Wow.

Posted by: LASue at July 11, 2023 05:12 PM (Ed8Zd)

540 "She deserved to die. Stupid CA supreme court."

The US Supreme Court ruled all death penalty laws on the books at that time, nationwide, were unconstitutional.

The same Court that ruled abortion is a right.

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2023 05:13 PM (AMIL/)

541 Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 11, 2023 05:10
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Ah. Thanks.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 11, 2023 05:13 PM (ju2Fy)

542 Well, it's a small population but that's very sad.
I like Peter Weir. The Last Wave is spooky. Master and Commander is a masterpiece.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at July 11, 2023 04:51 PM (xcxpd)

I need to see Master and Commander again. Great, great movie. A bit of a box-office failure, so the studio never greenlit a series. It's a shame too, because it was up against LOTR: Return of the King, and that movie just wiped out the competition. Bad timing. By rights, it should have won an Oscar, it was that good.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 11, 2023 05:14 PM (/iWhV)

543 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at July 11, 2023 05:10 PM (LvTSG)

Breaker Morant.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 11, 2023 05:14 PM (PHmov)

544
Disney was long known for its fanatical protection of copyright, they'd send gestapo to kick the door in if your kid drew mickey mouse and you put it on your refrigerator. They've always been jerks, they're just awful perverted jerks now.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

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That was back when they had a brand to protect, and they didn't want people drawing Mean Mickey and whatnot.

Now they're selling the shirts themselves.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2023 05:14 PM (AxmOr)

545 Ace is attempting nood reentry.

Posted by: Q at July 11, 2023 05:14 PM (krqg6)

546
I think of all the experiences I subjected my son and daughter to and that they'll remember forever and standing in line at a 'theme park' in the hot sun would be very last on their lists.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 11, 2023 05:14 PM (enJYY)

547 and I really liked Chappie (from the same director).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2023 05:11 PM (0hOvj)

I like Die Antwoord.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 11, 2023 05:14 PM (aD39U)

548 I'm related to Leslie van Houten by marriage, and somewhat distantly. Wife's second cousin.

So I'm maybe not impartial but it seems like she should have been paroled a long time ago.

Posted by: TexasDan at July 11, 2023 05:15 PM (6fChi)

549 We were at Disney World last Halloween. According to polls, 53% of Americans would have a hard time coming up with $400 for an emergency. That being the case, I swear there were plenty in that category that were there in the park. On top of that, I'll bet they're planning to be back this year too.

Posted by: jwest at July 11, 2023 05:16 PM (VP9ao)

550 Van Houten comes from a wealthy family. Always the dollars. She's not too old to kill again.

Posted by: Regular joe at July 11, 2023 05:16 PM (nnp+f)

551 Growing up we had a drawer full of books of tickets with just A's and B's in them.
Posted by: Jordan61

We did too. We also used the expression for something that is really cool - "It's an E-Ticket". It seems like a hundred years ago.
Posted by: Cheri at July 11, 202

The As were the baby rides, right?

Posted by: LASue at July 11, 2023 05:16 PM (Ed8Zd)

552 Indiana Jones 5 is nothing more than elder abuse.

Change my mind.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at July 11, 2023 05:16 PM (qBBjM)

553 Said above undoubtedly. Ticket prices appe to a smaller audience. IOW-less wait in line for rides.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 11, 2023 05:26 PM (JkCto)

554 It might be due to a very common human failing: Those who are not actually In the Club are the most desperate to show they should be In the Club.
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That, and another fact. They - both the insiders and the wannabes - are not in fact a real aristocracy, much as they may wish they were. Aristocracies have, in fact, always been military classes. That strain largely died out with the WWII generation.

In so far as they resemble any upper class from the past, it would be China's Mandarins. But without the Confucian ethic, and without the extremely traditional education.

What the really are is shit.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 11, 2023 05:34 PM (brAQZ)

555 postulation -- a whole bunch of everything Ace wrote in this post is downstream of the HR takeover of the world.

Got shitty employees that make stupid decisions? How long have you had an HR Department? When did you let them become the initial screen on everyone you have hired in ____ years?

Posted by: jc at July 11, 2023 05:51 PM (N1WXz)

556 You know who could have done a good job with Indiana Jones 5, better than James Mangold?
Sylvester Stallone.

Posted by: MikeN at July 12, 2023 02:05 AM (XygMV)

557 You have things backwards about Disney pricing. The pricing went up because the number of customers went up. Disney could afford to raise prices and have fewer customers. They started charging for everything.

I spend $1500 for 4 days and 4 people, including plane tickets and lodging. This was in 2017.

Posted by: MikeN at July 12, 2023 02:08 AM (XygMV)

558 I'd call the Indy movie reasonbly successful - it should easily finish in the Top 10 of movies of 2023. The real issue here is that the movie cost over $300M to make and distribute. That's ridiculous.

Posted by: sdsundevil at July 12, 2023 02:43 PM (mLqnX)

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