Disney Executive: Morale at the Mouse Has Never Been Worse; Everyone Knows That Kathleen Kennedy Has to be Fired, But Bob Iger Doesn't Have the Stones to Do It

Via WDW_Pro, a "Disney lifer" reports to Puck news that morale at the company has never been lower.

Below, "WDAS" means "Walt Disney Animation Studios." This executive is also saying with both Disney's own Animation Studios and Pixar both run into the ground, and both with tattered brand value, it makes no sense to maintain them as separate expensive units. Time to merge these pieces-of-mouse-shit and fire all the non-performers.

A survey finds that more people disapprove, and disapprove strongly, of Disney's Not So Secret Gay Agenda than approve of it, though it's a closer split than one would hope.

Redfield & Wilton Strategies surveyed 1,500 people and asked for their opinions on a number of LGBTQ+ topics and their place in Disney movies. The results were published on June 25 and shared exclusively with Newsweek.
When asked, "To what extent, if at all, do you approve or disapprove of transgender characters being represented in Disney films?" 11 percent disapproved, while 25 percent strongly disapproved. In comparison, 14 percent approved while 20 percent strongly approved.
In summary, 36 percent disapproved in some form, 34 percent approved, while 31 percent neither approved nor disapproved, or didn't know how they felt.

I would say that most of the people strongly disapproving are actual parents with children, and that most of the people strongly approving are childless weirdoes who post on Twitter and TikTok all day about their pronouns.

As the premiere of Indiana Jones finally comes -- it's already in theaters, for so-called "Thursday previews" that start at noon, but will be counted as Friday night's takings -- certainty that the film will bomb grows.

Currently, Dial of Destiny is expected to open on $65 million domestically, and only $140 million worldwide. Considering the reported $295 budget of Indy's swansong, along with a heft marketing campaign, this puts the fifth and final Indiana Jones adventure on the same shaky ground as the likes of The Flash, which has been a massive underperformer in the last few weeks.

WDW_Pro points out that the $295 million budget is an error -- that's the cost they got from British tax disclosures, in British pounds, not dollars. The actual cost in dollars is about $332 million. (Whoops, million, not billion -- this isn't aid for Ukraine we're talking about!)

Also, that cost but only counts the (acknowledged, admitted) costs through December 31, 2022. There have been additional reshoots since then, an additional round of scoring including the costs of an orchestra to play it, and certainly there have been additional CGI costs.

And not only do you have to add the 2023 costs to that $332 million, but then there are also the costs marketing, prints, the hefty back-end that Harrison Ford is certainly receiving, etc., that were not included in that.

Of course there is always a chance that these projections could turn out to be off the mark, but probably not by too much. A $65 million domestic haul would put the film in the same area as the likes of Fast X and Transformers: Rise of the Beasts, but a long way behind the likes of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, The Little Mermaid and even Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, which did not perform as well as expected. This makes Indy's final adventure as precarious in real life as in his own world.
While there are always discussions about who could be recast in popular roles, it seems that for now at least the Indiana Jones franchise will be ending with Dial of Destiny. When the movie was originally announced it came with a lot of rumors that the movie would act as a handover between Harrison Ford and the person who would be taking the franchise forward; Phoebe Waller-Bridge. In the last few months, Lucasfilm and Dial of Destiny director James Mangold have seemed to dampen down the idea of Waller-Bridge's Helena Shaw getting her own spin-off anytime soon.

Actually, both Kathleen Kennedy and Fleabag -- I'll call her Phloebag, for clarity -- recently popped of that Phloebag might be replacing Indiana Jones. But they can't possibly believe that. It's become a routine lie lately -- a grim joke -- that executives will attempt to make bombs sound like the studio has a lot of faith in them by announcing a sequel to the film before the film even debuts. They often announce a sequel just in time for opening weekend.

And then, after the film bombs, no one ever talks about that "sequel" again.

But at one time, Kathleen Kennedy certainly was planning a Raiders of the Lost Fleabag series.

Check out director James Mangold's reply as to whether he'd consider directing a Fleabag continuation movie or series:

"I'm not interested. I refuse. I just can't do it. The amount of lore and Easter eggs and fan service starts to become antithetical to any of this stuff at a certain point. It isn't storytelling anymore. It's large-scale advertising."

OMG dude did you just say that before your bomb even explodes?!?

You're supposed to say things like that years after the box office disaster, not on the eve of the film's release.

They keep lowering expectations for the looming disaster:

"Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny" is projected to rake in $60 to $70 million during its opening weekend, according to The Hollywood Reporter's tracking data. Deadline also projects the film to open with figures between $60 to $65 million domestically and $140 million worldwide.
This represents a sharp drop from the $81 to $111 million opening predicted by Box Office Pro in early June. Box Office Pro subsequently readjusted figures the next week, predicting the film would open to $68 to $102 million, according to Bounding Into Comics. On June 22, predictions hit $68 to $95 million.

I heard another YouTube commenter say that the low end for the Phloebiana Jones movie is only $55 million -- the same amount that They/Them Flash brought in. Disastrously.

Incidentally, Indiana Jones had a "fresh" rating only in the 40s after its poor reception at Cannes. They recently bumped that up to 62%, by inviting a lot of shill Rotten Tomatoes nobodies to screen the film and, wink-wink, "give it an unbiased review," wink-wink. Chris Gore and Paulie of "The Latino Slant" attended that screening, and say that LucasFilm paid for their dinner and for drinks -- they wanted them to have a nice free buzz for the movie. And both said they've never been literally "wined and dined" for a screening before.

How woke is it?

This woke: here are two sample dialogues from the movie.

Indiana Jones: You stole it!

Dr. Voller: You stole it!

Phloebag: Then I stole it! It's called capitalism.

That's in the trailers. They're super-proud of that line.

Stephen Greene says this is also in the movie -- though it sounds like a parody.

Indiana Jones: I fought the Nazis you know!

Phloebag: And you stole from indigenous people, too!

Oh wow. I heard Chris Gore talking about a line like that but I thought he was joking.

LucasFilm has a cheesy way to increase Indiana Jones' "ticket sales" -- giving away free tickets at Applebee's. If you spend $35 at Applebee's, you get one free ticket, if you spend $70, you get two. Note that it's pretty hard not to spend that much on dinner. So these are just free tickets.

In fairness, Applebee's ran a similar promotion with Top Gun: Maverick.

I don't think Phloebiana Jones is on track for a Maverick-style success.

Finally, there's Disney Minus' new woke series, Secret Invasion. The comic book was about an invasion by alien shapeshifters who had secretly replaced some major Marvel characters for years; the Disney Minus TV show is about old black racists bitterly complaining that white men didn't promote them fast enough.

Chris Gore discusses a scene between Nick Fury and Rhodie, two black men, in which Nick Fury says that they're not the kind of men who got jobs because of who their daddies were, and that they had to take jobs of "mediocre men who didn't look like us." That is, white men (spit).

Chris Gore also notes that Fury says "spooks like us" won the Cold War, suggesting that he means that as a racial slur. I don't think so. He is a spook -- meaning, covert operative. It's actually wrong to call James Bond a spy; a spy is the citizen of the target country recruited to provide intelligence to the spook. Maybe the Marvel show means this as a racial double-entendre. I don't know, I'm not watching it.

Update: Methos corrects me -- it's definitely intended as a racial double-entendre.

Gore is talking about an exchange between Fury and the white chick from How I met Your Mother, in which he talks about being a spook and she says "You can't say that any more," and he responds "No, YOU can't say that any more."

Right. So they're definitely hitting the black-slur usage of "spook."

Just what we all wanted in our Alien Invasion Comic Book show.

So how's the newest woke sermon working out for Disney Minus?

Well, even the Disney Shill Critics who Disney previously counted on to claim its woke disasters were Askhually Very Good, Racist are now ripping their latest Amber Heard level bed-turd.

The first reviews for Marvel's Secret Invasion just dropped, and they've certainly lowered our expectations. ...
Daniel Feinberg at The Hollywood Reporter calls Secret Invasion "middling" and "a disappointment." He also notes "Unfortunately, the action in Secret Invasion peaks with [its] first scene," before saying "A third of the way through the series, though, Secret Invasion is less Cold War and more Generally Tepid Kerfuffle."
Meghan O'Keefe, at Decider, notes that one of Secret Invasion's early "fumbles" comes in "pacing, over-emphasizing how Fury is off his game with repetitive scenes. A fun drinking game would be to take a shot anytime someone tells Fury he hasn't been the same since the Blip. You would soon be too hammered to catch any of Secret Invasion's many Marvel Easter eggs."
More damningly, Meghan writes "The scripts are flabby, the visuals uninspired. Five years ago, Secret Invasion would have been top-tier genre entertainment. Now it feels, like Fury, a few important steps behind the competition."
Ben Travers, of IndieWire, dryly slaps Secret Invasion's lack of ambition, writing "if "Secret Invasion" had any ambitions beyond fulfilling Disney's content demands, the six-episode limited series could speak to plenty of relevant, real-world issues." He also condemns the series, echoing Feinberg as he writes "Nine shows into Marvel's streaming experiment, we know what we're getting, and "Secret Invasion" is nearly as disappointing as its predecessors -- even when taken from a modified perspective."

It has the second-lowest ratings of any Disney Marvel content, beating out only the lowly, woke Ms. Marvel.

The viewership numbers for Secret Invasion's premiere episode have been released, and they are one of the worst among Marvel Studios' Disney+ projects. Inspired by one of the most expansive storylines in Marvel Comics, the latest MCU TV series sees Nick Fury return to Earth as he deals with the growing concern over Skrulls slowly taking over Earth. Despite being spearheaded by one of the most beloved characters in the franchise, it doesn't seem like Secret Invasion has quite resonated with its target audience yet.

"Yet."

Meanwhile, the Disney Minus show Secret Invasion has such a low budget they've risked the ire of the artistic community and used AI to create their opening credits sequence.

Visual artists hate AI, because it's cheaply automating the creation of art and putting them out of jobs.

But Disney Minus' budget for their content is so low, they did it anyway.

As Breitbart News reported, Disney engendered backlash among industry insiders this week upon revelations that the studio employed AI to create the opening credits for its new Disney+ Marvel series Secret Invasion.
The backlash hit on Wednesday after video of the show's intro went viral on social media, generating conversations about the future of artists in the industry that has since come to a standstill due to the ongoing Writers Guild of America (WGA) strike, AI being chief among their concerns. Take a look:

Marvel just used AI to create the opening intro for their new series: Secret Invasion.

Is the future of content creation here?👀

AI video generation is officially going mainsteam. pic.twitter.com/Xm79SErdxz
— AI Daily (@AlexAIDaily) June 21, 2023

Posted by: Ace at 04:40 PM

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1 Sponge

Posted by: David French at June 29, 2023 04:41 PM (oXNqT)

2 F the mouse and his all his faggot friends

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 29, 2023 04:41 PM (pVWRI)

3 It's 3:41pm, do you know who my wife is doing?

Posted by: David French at June 29, 2023 04:42 PM (oXNqT)

4 When asked, "To what extent, if at all, do you approve or disapprove of transgender characters being represented in Disney films?" 11 percent disapproved, while 25 percent strongly disapproved. In comparison, 14 percent approved while 20 percent strongly approved.

In summary, 36 percent disapproved in some form, 34 percent approved, while 31 percent neither approved nor disapproved, or didn't know how they felt.
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Bullshit. "We're deliberating injecting gay themes in the hopes of subliminally or openly exposing your children to homosexuality" is not something about which many people will have "no opinion."

Those are people who are afraid to answer for one reason or another.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 29, 2023 04:42 PM (t0OGg)

5 Boob thread!

Posted by: wth at June 29, 2023 04:42 PM (v0R5T)

6 > The actual cost in dollars is about $332 billion.

*million

Posted by: bonhomme at June 29, 2023 04:43 PM (eyxn4)

7
Did I not say this yesterday? Did I not say it? Disney and Marvel are two evergreen subjects.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 04:43 PM (MoZTd)

8 I can’t make it through the derivative AI excrement.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 29, 2023 04:44 PM (glGDV)

9 the hefty back-end that Harrison Ford is certainly receiving

I take it he's not dating Brie Larson then.

Posted by: spindrift at June 29, 2023 04:44 PM (ivvNA)

10 odd. on saturday, my local theater is *only* showing matinees of the new indiana jones movie. *no* evening showings.

Posted by: anachronda foolishly read the content at June 29, 2023 04:44 PM (v3pYe)

11
Notified the hangers-on about noodification occurring.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 04:44 PM (MoZTd)

12
Die, Disney! Die!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot Egg-Fried: Proud Member of Clan Fried for ... oh, 'bout Four Weeks Now at June 29, 2023 04:44 PM (pNxlR)

13 hiya

Posted by: JT at June 29, 2023 04:45 PM (T4tVD)

14 I suspect that woman has an iron clad employment contract that pretty much has the mouse over a barrel with his shrunken balls exposed.

Even if she doesn't the threat of a ULP lawsuit would cost them millions of $$$$.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 29, 2023 04:46 PM (ncXxy)

15 And not only do you have to add the 2023 costs to that $332 million, but then there are also the costs marketing, prints, the hefty back-end that Harrison Ford is certainly receiving, etc., that were not included in that.
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The distribution and marketing costs are not part of the production budget, nor is Ford's cut. The production budget on this turkey, when all is said and done, is probably going to land at around $350 million. Marketing has been gigantic for this movie, and those in the know (like WDW Pro) estimate it at around $150 million and I'll take their word for it. I have no idea what Ford's cut is going to be.

So they spent between $450 and $500 million, probably. This is *not* going to be a $900+ million movie. It might make half that. If it overperforms, it might make $600 million.

Disney is probably going to lose at least $150 million on this exercise and possibly quite a bit more than that.

Couldn't happen to a better bunch.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 29, 2023 04:46 PM (t0OGg)

16 Oh yeah, I forgot: I shan’t continue. I simply shannot. I love that one.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 29, 2023 04:46 PM (glGDV)

17 Is it a movie thread yet?

Posted by: I gotta ask at June 29, 2023 04:46 PM (DhOHl)

18 Ace, the conversion from U.S. dollars to British pounds is 1.26 today. so that cost in dollars is $371 million.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 29, 2023 04:47 PM (PHmov)

19
How long before Disney goes from media behemoth to a division everyone tries to get rid off or spin off when they acquire it?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 04:47 PM (MoZTd)

20 Is it just me or was it not that long ago when $65M domestic was considered a decent success. Now it’s a bomb. $100m used to be blowout success territory.

I guess it’s because the cost of movies is so astronomical now. But still it still is odd to me to see even $100M box office as a massive failure sometimes.

Posted by: Montec at June 29, 2023 04:47 PM (Z5kwJ)

21 Actually, both Kathleen Kennedy and Fleabag -- I'll call her Phloebag, for clarity -- recently popped of that Phloebag might be replacing Indiana Jones. But they can't possibly believe that. It's become a routine lie lately -- a grim joke -- that executives will attempt to make bombs sound like the studio has a lot of faith in them by announcing a sequel to the film before the film even debuts. They often announce a sequel just in time for opening weekend.
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Like the Rian Johnson trilogy.
Like Mangold's Star Wars movie.
Like any number of projects.

Lucasfilm has announced a lot of shit that's never going to be made.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 29, 2023 04:47 PM (t0OGg)

22 I honestly don't think there is a fix for Disney.

They have more money than God and the Devil combined but the people in power are rich and don't care if they burn it to the ground.

Who would hire who to come in and fix it?

You and I know what they're doing wrong but they aren't hiring you or me.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2023 04:48 PM (iziT8)

23 Bidenflation.

Posted by: It's kinda obvious at June 29, 2023 04:49 PM (DhOHl)

24 We'll make it up on volume!!!

Posted by: The Homo Mouse at June 29, 2023 04:49 PM (flINI)

25 Disney paid $7.4 billion for Pixar.

Now it's basically worthless as a separate entity from Disney Animation.

Bob Iger is destroying the company, piece by piece.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 29, 2023 04:49 PM (guGkK)

26 I think you should consider writing a screenplay, Ace. You obviously write well and know what you like.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2023 04:49 PM (Keyt1)

27 I suspect that woman has an iron clad employment contract that pretty much has the mouse over a barrel with his shrunken balls exposed.

Even if she doesn't the threat of a ULP lawsuit would cost them millions of $$$$.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 29, 2023 04:46 PM (ncXxy)

A smart CEO would stick her in a basement office with no secretary and have her count paper clips. Keep paying her while the lawyers figure out how to fire her. But keep her away from decisions.

Her salary is a triviality compared to the damage she has done.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 29, 2023 04:49 PM (PHmov)

28 Isnt it funny the Woke movie executives can never just create something completely new to drive their agenda?

Make an adventure/action movie with a female protagonist. No one is stopping you. One of the most beloved Sc-Fi movies of all time is Alien(s) with Sigourney Weaver. From the late 1970's. There are no barriers.

It always has to be some existing franchise where they need to strip the white male of everything. They're far more invested in that side of the equation.

Posted by: Blago at June 29, 2023 04:49 PM (cOFom)

29 I imagine Ace has an old Mickey Mouse Club membership card hidden away.

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect & speeds the security clearance process at June 29, 2023 04:50 PM (GshMh)

30 i wonder if they got an ai program to write that derivative schmaltz music.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 29, 2023 04:50 PM (B1FKF)

31 along with a heft marketing campaign

I find that heft is, how you say, my marketing campaign.

Posted by: Paolo at June 29, 2023 04:50 PM (a3Q+t)

32 They destroyed Marvel, Star Wars, and Indiana Jones. They are beneath contempt.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 29, 2023 04:50 PM (d2bW3)

33 Disney could lose a billion dollars a month and still be solvent for a long time.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2023 04:51 PM (iziT8)

34 "I'm not interested. I refuse. I just can't do it. The amount of lore and Easter eggs and fan service starts to become antithetical to any of this stuff at a certain point. It isn't storytelling anymore. It's large-scale advertising."
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I like the not-so-subtle jibe that "fan service" (and by extension, the lore and the story and satisfying customer expectations and whatnot) is the problem that reduces the value of the art.

No. That's secondary. Lame "HEY GUYS DO YOU REMEMBER X" stuff is not the primary problem. The primary problem is the piss-poor writing, the contempt for all prior works, the constant prog messaging, the destruction of primary (or in Indiana Jones' case, titular) characters to push some stupid new one and the incompetent execution with unlikable people like Fleabag or - as Ace has now dubber her, Phoebag - is a far bigger complex of problems.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 29, 2023 04:51 PM (t0OGg)

35 Good.

More Please.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 29, 2023 04:51 PM (HiuPw)

36 GIRL POWWWWER!

Posted by: KK at June 29, 2023 04:51 PM (53oGX)

37 They often announce a sequel just in time for opening weekend.
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Like the Rian Johnson trilogy.
Like Mangold's Star Wars movie.
Ace: The Shelving...Part II

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 29, 2023 04:47 PM (t0OGg)

FIFY

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 29, 2023 04:51 PM (PHmov)

38 Take any random still from that AI generated opening and it looks like the art you see at any random high school.

Go to 1:06 for example. I'm 99% certain I saw something exactly like that a few times from arty kids when I was in HS.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 29, 2023 04:51 PM (eyxn4)

39 That's in the trailers. They're super-proud of that line.
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Yes they are. And Phoebag gives a nice girl-boss smirk with it, IIRC.

Sure makes me wanna shell out cash to go see it.

Oh, wait. No it doesn't. I'd rather string up the new lights in my garage.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 29, 2023 04:52 PM (t0OGg)

40 A smart CEO would stick her in a basement office with no secretary and have her count paper clips. Keep paying her while the lawyers figure out how to fire her. But keep her away from decisions.

Her salary is a triviality compared to the damage she has done.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Agreed.

Even with a contract, you don't have to actually give them power to make and and all decisions that sink the company.

I felt the same with civil servants. You didnt even need to fire people like Fauci, just let them collect their $200k salary while they organize file folders. You dont have to follow their orders. Way cheaper than the TRILLIONS these people cost us.

Posted by: Blago at June 29, 2023 04:52 PM (cOFom)

41 As long as dementia addled douchebag Harrison Ford is kept away from a cockpit I have no problem with their failures.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 29, 2023 04:52 PM (9RRW+)

42 "Bob Iger is destroying the company, piece by piece.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) "

At what cost to him, personally. Nothing.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2023 04:52 PM (iziT8)

43 Indiana Jones: I fought the Nazis you know!
Phoebag: And you stole from indigenous people, too!
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Phoebag's "Tomb Raider" movie is gonna be *awesome.*

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 29, 2023 04:52 PM (t0OGg)

44 I remember being worried they were going to turn Shia Lebouef into the next Indy.

Looks like that would have been the better choice then what they did.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2023 04:52 PM (lc5cP)

45 Nick Fury return to Earth as he deals with the growing concern over Skrulls slowly taking over Earth.

————

Dude, how is that any different than WEF?

We are living through this shit and as we can tell, there are no hero’s to save us.

Reality is intruding into entertainment to such a degree that a lot of people simply don’t want escapist entertainment.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 29, 2023 04:52 PM (cMXNt)

46 Disney could lose a billion dollars a month and still be solvent for a long time.

Challenge...accepted!

Posted by: Disney at June 29, 2023 04:53 PM (eOEVl)

47 "Did I not say this yesterday? Did I not say it? Disney and Marvel are two evergreen subjects.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh"

The culture war is white hot and Disney is on the front line.

What the fuck do you want?

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2023 04:53 PM (iziT8)

48 I think Kathleen Kennedy is doing a great job

Posted by: Alissa Heinerscheid at June 29, 2023 04:54 PM (flINI)

49 Chris Gore also notes that Fury says "spooks like us" won the Cold War, suggesting that he means that as a racial slur. I don't think so. He is a spook -- meaning, covert operative. It's actually wrong to call James Bond a spy; a spy is the citizen of the target country recruited to provide intelligence to the spook. Maybe the Marvel show means this as a racial double-entendre. I don't know, I'm not watching it.
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Three options on that:
1. They mean "spook" as exactly what it sounds like - a spy type of person - and either the press or Jackson doesn't understand that.
2. They mean "spook" as a racial pejorative because the writers are morons.
3. They mean "spook" as a double-entendre because the writers are self-impressed morons.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 29, 2023 04:54 PM (t0OGg)

50 Spielberg shunned her recently. Why is it so difficult to fire this c-word?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 29, 2023 04:54 PM (d2bW3)

51 Disney needs to buy Bud Light and complete their demise.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 29, 2023 04:54 PM (lf83v)

52 > I like the not-so-subtle jibe that "fan service" (and by extension, the lore and the story and satisfying customer expectations and whatnot) is the problem that reduces the value of the art.

Have you ever seen the movie Dodgeball? Pretty funny movie, but it's not art. Not even close. The director originally wanted the scrappy losers to lose at the end, and he was forced to do the happy ending. He was legitimately angry about this and complained that his art was compromised. DODGEBALL!

Creative types have zero self awareness.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 29, 2023 04:54 PM (eyxn4)

53 They destroyed Marvel, Star Wars, and Indiana Jones. They are beneath contempt.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 29, 2023 04:50 PM

And they had to really work hard at destroying Star Wars. I mean they had an entire galaxy of stuff they could have exploited to keep making movies for decades but they chose to destroy the franchise overnight in pursuit of the woke crowd which is so small they literally don't have the $$$$ to support what disney tried to do. And now they are doubling down on stoopid.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 29, 2023 04:54 PM (ncXxy)

54 Time to merge these pieces-of-mouse-shit

If you merge two mouse turds, do you get one, how you say, rat turd?

Posted by: Paolo at June 29, 2023 04:55 PM (a3Q+t)

55 Alissa Heinerscheid

The bigotry of low expectations.
*Snort*

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 29, 2023 04:55 PM (u82oZ)

56 Visual artists hate AI, because it's cheaply automating the creation of art and putting them out of jobs.

Oh no! Anyway...

Posted by: Disney at June 29, 2023 04:55 PM (eOEVl)

57 Daniel Feinberg at The Hollywood Reporter calls Secret Invasion "middling" and "a disappointment." He also notes "Unfortunately, the action in Secret Invasion peaks with [its] first scene," before saying "A third of the way through the series, though, Secret Invasion is less Cold War and more Generally Tepid Kerfuffle."
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The lapdog media outlets are starting to get restless. Disney needs to write *much* bigger checks.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 29, 2023 04:55 PM (t0OGg)

58 off thread
what a difference true faith makes. the US and every other major government is apologizing to the Muslim world because some Swede burned a Koran.

Meanwhile, in Rome, the artist who dunked a crucifix in his own urine and proudly displayed it in a Brooklyn museum years ago - "Piss Christ" - is just been at the Vatican in a meeting with the "Pope." Maybe he wanted a refill?

Posted by: Fat Jonah of Krypton at June 29, 2023 04:55 PM (MS5ih)

59 I may well have missed it, but did anyone here watch Fleabag? It kept popping up on whatever streaming service as "popular" so I gave it a go. It was sorta the regular "independent woman" fare, and the main character was marginally likable, but she became so hopelessly hopeless. And then there was a glimmer that she might actually be forced to face the fact that her life choices were desperately shallow with only the thinnest of veneer -- when she began a friendship with a priest. But, natch, he ended up banging her in a confessional and I gave up on the show being anything other than a Female Empowerment vehicle that shat on anything approaching traditional. Total waste.

Posted by: red speck at June 29, 2023 04:56 PM (0Id0S)

60 Karen Allen: ‘Raiders of the Lost Ark’s success gave me agoraphobia’
https://tinyurl.com/mvpjx2ty

Another Hollywood nutjob.

She was hot in 1981 though.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 29, 2023 04:56 PM (9RRW+)

61 Farage Cancelled (6m)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0F3OVfrQRA

Completely!

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at June 29, 2023 04:56 PM (tJRU3)

62 >>>And they had to really work hard at destroying Star Wars. I mean they had an entire galaxy of stuff they could have exploited to keep making movies for decades but they chose to destroy the franchise overnight in pursuit of the woke crowd which is so small they literally don't have the $$$$ to support what disney tried to do. And now they are doubling down on stoopid.
Posted by: Mister Scott

As far as I'm concerned there are only three SW films and three Indiana Jones films.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 29, 2023 04:57 PM (d2bW3)

63 Isnt it funny the Woke movie executives can never just create something completely new to drive their agenda?

Occasionally they try that and it always bombs.

Remember Mother for your environazi pleasures?

Or how about Call Me by Your Name to celebrate MAPs?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2023 04:57 PM (lc5cP)

64 > She was hot in 1981 though.

Hard disagree.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 29, 2023 04:57 PM (eyxn4)

65 And they had to really work hard at destroying Star Wars.

Eh. I find the originals pretty boring now, and the less said about the Lucas-driven 2nd trilogy the better. I think it's a very overrated franchise, and Disney was just stupid to pay so much money for it.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 29, 2023 04:57 PM (eOEVl)

66 Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 29, 2023 04:56 PM (9RRW+)

Those of us who were adults in 1981 were all hotter back then.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for Public Office at June 29, 2023 04:58 PM (E1hGH)

67 Speaking of FX, is GM now using CGI in its truck commercials? I've seen one GM truck ad recently and it really looks like bad CGI was used to create some towing scenes.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 29, 2023 04:58 PM (2YtOq)

68 "Indy, hold me like you did on Naboo."

"NOOOOOOOOOO!"

Posted by: Frasier Crane at June 29, 2023 04:58 PM (bNf8H)

69 Huh, and people wonder why there seems to be no hurry for Hollowwood to settle the writer's strike.

If all they're gonna do is churn out this kind of drek maybe the suits feel a year or two off for the 'creatives' isn't gonna hurt anybody that matters.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at June 29, 2023 04:59 PM (a9CYf)

70
I do hope they use Phloebag to make a sequel.

I was so looking forward to having Phlogiston and Phlegm, her daffy old maid aunts, become part of the madcap romp.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot Egg-Fried: Proud Member of Clan Fried for ... oh, 'bout Four Weeks Now at June 29, 2023 04:59 PM (pNxlR)

71 Watch Ernst Lubitsch movies instead.

Like this:

https://archive.org/details/TheStudentPrince_201611

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 04:59 PM (LvTSG)

72 Keep laughing at them. Their Christmas tent pole, "the Bride and the Burro", is going to break all the records.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 29, 2023 04:59 PM (z+89e)

73 "Generally tepid kerfuffle." Great line.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 29, 2023 04:59 PM (2YtOq)

74 Let us suppose that you bought several immensely, historically popular franchises that are simply printing money to produce movies for. Let us say you buy Indiana Jones, Star Wars, Willow, Marvel Cinema, etc.

Then, let us say that you give a producer these can't-lose franchises to make more content for.

And then, let us say that this producer not only says out loud repeatedly that they dislike the products and want to "fix" them by taking out the known beloved characters and replace them with your own creations.

And finally, let us say that each of the new movies in these franchises aren't just disliked but are immense, repeated, deep failures that lose money and worse, turn fans against the entire genre.

What would you do to this producer?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 04:59 PM (0hOvj)

75 ... I gave up on the show being anything other than a Female Empowerment vehicle that shat on anything approaching traditional. Total waste.
Posted by: red speck at June 29, 2023 04:56 PM (0Id0S)
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Yup.
It's another one of those "being a slut in the big city is SO COOL YOU GUYS" programs.

And for some reason, Phoebe Waller-Bridge became a Hollywood darling as a result. It is beyond understanding. She isn't ugly, but she's not beautiful - certainly not "superstar beautiful." She's also a boring charisma vacuum and has no chemistry on-screen with anyone. She's also an untalented hack.

The only explanation is that Kathleen Kennedy sees Phoebag as a way to put herself into movies. She's an unlikable English chick of middling looks and perfect ideological alignment - exactly like Kennedy was when she was young.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 29, 2023 04:59 PM (t0OGg)

76 She was hot in 1981 though.

Hard disagree.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 29, 2023 04:57 PM (eyxn4)

Me too. I would describe her as "cute," but no more than that.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 29, 2023 04:59 PM (PHmov)

77 69 Huh, and people wonder why there seems to be no hurry for Hollowwood to settle the writer's strike.

If all they're gonna do is churn out this kind of drek maybe the suits feel a year or two off for the 'creatives' isn't gonna hurt anybody that matters.
Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at June 29, 2023 04:59 PM (a9CYf)

=======

I like the theory that the establishment in Hollywood is using this to shake out as much of the wokeness as possible. No idea if it's true, but the theory does entertain me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 04:59 PM (LvTSG)

78 "As far as I'm concerned there are only three SW films and three Indiana Jones films.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp "

Correct.

And yes Karen Allen was a cutie.

Hard disagree with the hard disagree.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2023 05:00 PM (iziT8)

79 Eh. I find the originals pretty boring now, and the less said about the Lucas-driven 2nd trilogy the better.

The first two movies were great movies from an era that didn't make great SF movies. And Lucas literally left the audience wanting more after Return of the Jedi.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2023 05:00 PM (lc5cP)

80 > As far as I'm concerned there are only three SW films and three Indiana Jones films.

Even Spielberg doesn't like the second Indiana Jones.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 29, 2023 05:00 PM (eyxn4)

81 >>>9 the hefty back-end that Harrison Ford is certainly receiving
I take it he's not dating Brie Larson then.

lol

or Phloebag, either.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy, head hung in shame at June 29, 2023 05:00 PM (KRtlO)

82 Alissa Heinerscheid is available to help. Evidently she's brilliant:
https://tinyurl.com/mvjhyt3z

Posted by: Even more brilliance at June 29, 2023 05:00 PM (DhOHl)

83 >>>Even Spielberg doesn't like the second Indiana Jones.

it's grown on me.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy, head hung in shame at June 29, 2023 05:00 PM (KRtlO)

84 Let us suppose that you bought several immensely, historically popular franchises that are simply printing money to produce movies for. Let us say you buy Indiana Jones, Star Wars, Willow, Marvel Cinema, etc.

Then, let us say that you give a producer these can't-lose franchises to make more content for.

And then, let us say that this producer not only says out loud repeatedly that they dislike the products and want to "fix" them by taking out the known beloved characters and replace them with your own creations.

And finally, let us say that each of the new movies in these franchises aren't just disliked but are immense, repeated, deep failures that lose money and worse, turn fans against the entire genre.

What would you do to this producer?

Is this a trick question?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 29, 2023 05:00 PM (eOEVl)

85 Yawn.

Wake me when Zombie Walt goes medieval on the executive suite.

Posted by: Joe Mama at June 29, 2023 05:00 PM (lZVy/)

86
Eh. I find the originals pretty boring now, and the less said about the Lucas-driven 2nd trilogy the better. I think it's a very overrated franchise, and Disney was just stupid to pay so much money for it.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 29, 2023 04:57 PM (eOEVl)

It would have been better for history if a bomb had gone off in the room where The Empire Strikes Back was pitched.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 05:00 PM (MoZTd)

87 75 And for some reason, Phoebe Waller-Bridge became a Hollywood darling as a result. It is beyond understanding. She isn't ugly, but she's not beautiful - certainly not "superstar beautiful." She's also a boring charisma vacuum and has no chemistry on-screen with anyone. She's also an untalented hack.

The only explanation is that Kathleen Kennedy sees Phoebag as a way to put herself into movies. She's an unlikable English chick of middling looks and perfect ideological alignment - exactly like Kennedy was when she was young.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 29, 2023 04:59 PM (t0OGg)

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Lena Dunham was THE STAR for about 3 years. At least Phoebe isn't obese.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:00 PM (LvTSG)

88 >>>Huh, and people wonder why there seems to be no hurry for Hollowwood to settle the writer's strike.

Look at the recent films. Most of them are pretty awful. We need Tom Cruise to live forever.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 29, 2023 05:00 PM (d2bW3)

89 It didn't beat the Angry Green Feminist Lawyer show?

Posted by: Inogame at June 29, 2023 05:01 PM (53oGX)

90 I think you should consider writing a screenplay, Ace. You obviously write well and know what you like.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2023 04:49 PM (Keyt1)

Nobody wants to see a movie about Taylor Lorenz getting her ass kicked by jacked-up Ewoks.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 29, 2023 05:01 PM (guGkK)

91 You didnt even need to fire people like Fauci, just let them collect their $200k salary

—

More like $400k

Posted by: Montec at June 29, 2023 05:01 PM (Z5kwJ)

92 Did I not say this yesterday? Did I not say it? Disney and Marvel are two evergreen subjects.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 04:43 PM

Welcome to the party, pal.

Posted by: Guns 'n Boobs at June 29, 2023 05:01 PM (a3Q+t)

93 83 >>>Even Spielberg doesn't like the second Indiana Jones.

it's grown on me.
Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy, head hung in shame at June 29, 2023 05:00 PM (KRtlO)

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Directors sometimes have personal reasons for not like a film, related to their time making the films. I rarely take their opinions into account about whether I think one of their films is good or not.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:01 PM (LvTSG)

94 They had to take jobs of "mediocre men who didn't look like us." "They" meaning an army of below average identity hires. This is Corporate America's justification for artificially suppressing middle class wages. It's funny because they have it all wrong. It's the "connected," Ivy league execs (cough.... Brendan Whitworth...cough) that are mediocre and are tanking the corporations.

Posted by: Kitchener Lesley at June 29, 2023 05:01 PM (CgQvH)

95 Alissa Heinerscheid is available to help. Evidently she's brilliant:
https://tinyurl.com/mvjhyt3z
Posted by: Even more brilliance

Now, that's a whinnying smile!

Posted by: Mister Ed at June 29, 2023 05:02 PM (lZVy/)

96 So they can all gi down like the Titanic, or Harris

Posted by: Skip at June 29, 2023 05:02 PM (xhxe8)

97 She was hot in 1981 though.

She was cute, but I never thought of her as hot.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:02 PM (0hOvj)

98 >>76 She was hot in 1981 though.

Hard disagree.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 29, 2023 04:57 PM (eyxn4)

Me too. I would describe her as "cute," but no more than that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo a

Some people are very picky.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 29, 2023 05:02 PM (9RRW+)

99 Nobody wants to see a movie about Taylor Lorenz getting her ass kicked by jacked-up Ewoks.

Well, now, let's not be hasty...

Posted by: Archimedes at June 29, 2023 05:02 PM (eOEVl)

100 Let me just say:

Disney owns the rights to Zardoz since they bought the 20th Century Fox library.

I demand a woke-reimagining of Zardoz!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:02 PM (LvTSG)

101 Hmm. I didn't think the opening credit was bad.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 29, 2023 05:02 PM (BdMk6)

102 "I like the theory that the establishment in Hollywood is using this to shake out as much of the wokeness as possible. No idea if it's true, but the theory does entertain me."

Elon Musk......you magnificent bastard I READ YOUR BOOK!!!!/Hollywood moguls everywhere(?)

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at June 29, 2023 05:02 PM (a9CYf)

103 >>>it's grown on me.
Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy

Didn't like it when I first saw it, but it's grown on me too. Spielbergs wife is better than Fleabag

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 29, 2023 05:03 PM (d2bW3)

104 102 Elon Musk......you magnificent bastard I READ YOUR BOOK!!!!/Hollywood moguls everywhere(?)
Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at June 29, 2023 05:02 PM (a9CYf)

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I watched Patton last night.

Quality.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:03 PM (LvTSG)

105 Nobody wants to see a movie about Taylor Lorenz getting her ass kicked by jacked-up Ewoks.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 29, 2023 05:01 PM (guGkK)
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Hey, now, let's not be too hasty. After all, some dismemberment might be involved.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 29, 2023 05:03 PM (2YtOq)

106 Nobody wants to see a movie about Taylor Lorenz getting her ass kicked by jacked-up Ewoks.

I'd pay to see it.

Posted by: Kitchener Lesley at June 29, 2023 05:03 PM (CgQvH)

107 How does Iger not see that Kennedy HAS to go? She's poison. Her ideas are not appealing to the audience. She's screwed 2 franchises. She's a fricking menace.

Posted by: Seems Legit. at June 29, 2023 05:03 PM (DcKNO)

108 Nobody wants to see a movie about Taylor Lorenz getting her ass kicked by jacked-up Ewoks.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 29, 2023 05:01 PM (guGkK)
++++
But when she is ultimately vanquished by being trapped under a collapsed shelving unit, nobody will see it coming.

What a twist!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 29, 2023 05:03 PM (t0OGg)

109 107 How does Iger not see that Kennedy HAS to go? She's poison. Her ideas are not appealing to the audience. She's screwed 2 franchises. She's a fricking menace.
Posted by: Seems Legit. at June 29, 2023 05:03 PM (DcKNO)

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She does that thing with her tongue.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:04 PM (LvTSG)

110 Nobody wants to see a movie about Taylor Lorenz getting her ass kicked by jacked-up Ewoks.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 29, 2023 05:01 PM

I can eliminate one problem there.

Posted by: Brie Larson at June 29, 2023 05:04 PM (a3Q+t)

111 >>>She was cute, but I never thought of her as hot.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

I'd say she was pretty. Not supermodel, but pretty.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 29, 2023 05:04 PM (d2bW3)

112 >>78
And yes Karen Allen was a cutie.

Hard disagree with the hard disagree.
Posted by: eleven

*fist bump

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 29, 2023 05:04 PM (9RRW+)

113 I guess Indy and the other new trash from Disney will be showing up on Disney + soon

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2023 05:04 PM (bs+z0)

114 Nobody wants to see a movie about Taylor Lorenz getting her ass kicked by jacked-up Ewoks.

Can we have a scene were Karen Gillian bakes cookies for the Ewoks wearing the same outfit she wore baking cookies in NOT ANOTHER HAPPY ENDING?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 29, 2023 05:04 PM (lc5cP)

115 Phloebag: Then I stole it! It's called capitalism.
That's in the trailers. They're super-proud of that line.

They were super-proud of it. But they got so much negative backlash from it that they actually took out the "its called capitalism" stinger from newer promotions. I watched American Ninja Warrior this week which was brought to you by Dial of Destiny. Disney must be desperate to be advertising with NBC/Universal. They had the stole it sequence but her capitalism dig was removed, though of course its likely still in the movie.

Posted by: Luke Skywalkers character is totally consistent in TLJ at June 29, 2023 05:04 PM (aRLgQ)

116 74 Let us suppose that you bought several immensely, historically popular franchises that are simply printing money to produce movies for. Let us say you buy Indiana Jones, Star Wars, Willow, Marvel Cinema, etc.

Then, let us say that you give a producer these can't-lose franchises to make more content for.

And then, let us say that this producer not only says out loud repeatedly that they dislike the products and want to "fix" them by taking out the known beloved characters and replace them with your own creations.

And finally, let us say that each of the new movies in these franchises aren't just disliked but are immense, repeated, deep failures that lose money and worse, turn fans against the entire genre.

What would you do to this producer?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 04:59 PM (0hOvj)

Promotion!

Posted by: Bob at June 29, 2023 05:05 PM (53oGX)

117 How does Iger not see that Kennedy HAS to go? She's poison. Her ideas are not appealing to the audience. She's screwed 2 franchises. She's a fricking menace.

Iger is a weatherman. Name one positive, creative thing he did for Disney?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 29, 2023 05:05 PM (guGkK)

118 Even Spielberg doesn't like the second Indiana Jones.

It has the bones of a great movie, but they went too far trying to create thrills, and Kate screamshaw is annoying.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:05 PM (0hOvj)

119 Wow. That trailer?
Plan Nine From Outer Space with a computer.

Posted by: MkY at June 29, 2023 05:05 PM (cPGH3)

120 117 Iger is a weatherman. Name one positive, creative thing he did for Disney?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 29, 2023 05:05 PM (guGkK)

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He thought streaming was the future and set Disney on the path to put every expensive thing on it. Then he handed things over to Chapek and blamed him for all the bad decisions that Iger made.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:06 PM (LvTSG)

121 /sock

Posted by: ballistic at June 29, 2023 05:06 PM (oXNqT)

122 It has the bones of a great movie, but they went too far trying to create thrills, and Kate screamshaw is annoying.

Agree, but I suspect that's one of the few weapons in her acting arsenal. That, and a big chest.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 29, 2023 05:07 PM (eOEVl)

123 Directors sometimes have personal reasons for not like a film, related to their time making the films. I rarely take their opinions into account about whether I think one of their films is good or not.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:01 PM

* thumbs up *

Posted by: Ridley Scott at June 29, 2023 05:07 PM (a3Q+t)

124 "Movies aren't going to get any better until there's.....there's....more opportunities for....for...MATURE ACTRESSES!!!"/bursts out crying

Posted by: Meryl Streep at June 29, 2023 05:07 PM (a9CYf)

125 I'm sorry but Temple of Doom was the white part of bird shit.

Cripes get some judgement capabilities.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2023 05:07 PM (iziT8)

126 Problem with AI is that it will just write the same woke crap as the bipods and tripods.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 29, 2023 05:07 PM (5xURv)

127 Kate Capshaw was definitely the worst thing about Crystal Skull.

INDIEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

ugh

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 29, 2023 05:07 PM (guGkK)

128 But at one time, Kathleen Kennedy certainly was planning a Raiders of the Lost Fleabag series.

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Indiana Jones and the Bedbugs of Doom.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 29, 2023 05:08 PM (d9aGi)

129 Disney has a lot of capital to keep itself afloat for a while, but I do wonder at what point does the company, not just the movie/cable/TV part begin to collapse. If it ever does.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 29, 2023 05:08 PM (Q4IgG)

130 I liked The Last Crusade because Sean Connery was in it

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2023 05:08 PM (bs+z0)

131 Kate Capshaw was definitely the worst thing about Crystal Skull.

Cate Blanchett?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 29, 2023 05:08 PM (eOEVl)

132 Iger was instrumental in creating a separate studio, "Searchlight Studios?" For pg 13 content so as to distance Disney from less than wholesome fare.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 29, 2023 05:09 PM (2YtOq)

133 Bullshit. "We're deliberating injecting gay themes in the hopes of subliminally or openly exposing your children to homosexuality" is not something about which many people will have "no opinion."

Those are people who are afraid to answer for one reason or another.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 29, 2023 04:42 PM (t0OGg)

You also have people unaware of those being deliberate insertions and not just an organic aspect of the story being told. So they might have a different opinion if they knew "Oh yeah we're totally pushing all this into CHILDREN'S PROGRAMMING for the purposes of pushing an agenda.

Posted by: Luke Skywalkers character is totally consistent in TLJ at June 29, 2023 05:09 PM (aRLgQ)

134 The thing is, I'd watch Temple of Doom in a festival of Indy films, but not Crystal Skull and I have no interest in seeing Dial of Destiny

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:09 PM (0hOvj)

135 Ooops. Not Crystal Skull. Temple of Doom.

Damn you, AI

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 29, 2023 05:09 PM (guGkK)

136 Phlobag is in charge of Amazon's new Tomb Raider series. She's not going to have time for Indy 6, this time the woman does it right.

She's going to be too busy ruinin...wait...Tomb Raider? How do you ruin Tomb Raider? It's already shit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:09 PM (LvTSG)

137 stupid sock puppet

Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2023 05:09 PM (aRLgQ)

138 NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE FEEL, SAD DISNEY STAFF!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at June 29, 2023 05:09 PM (6VLHU)

139 Hey, now, let's not be too hasty. After all, some dismemberment might be involved.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 29, 2023 05:03 PM

Does the cruelty here know no bounds?

* sobs *

Posted by: Michelle Fields at June 29, 2023 05:10 PM (a3Q+t)

140 I liked The Last Crusade because Sean Connery was in it

Connery could read the instructions on a Chinese-made TV and make them intriguing.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 29, 2023 05:10 PM (eOEVl)

141 This talk of the inability of Disney/Marvel/Lucasfilm leadership reminds me of the Darklords from the old Ravenloft campaign setting from AD&D.

The darklords were cursed to rule over their domains by the Dark Powers. They had committed an Act of Ultimate Evil to earn their place. All they had to do to break their curse would be to renounce their sins and seek redemption.

The nature of their curse is that if they could do that, they would never have become darklords in the first place.

Iger, Kennedy, etc... come from that mold. If they were capable of renouncing what they've done and seek proper atonement, they *might* be able to achieve greatness again in a generation. But they can't so they won't.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 29, 2023 05:10 PM (YIVH2)

142 Can you imagine Star Wars if they embraced the heroes from Episodes 4-6?
Luke restarts the Jedi Order...
I mean the spin offs of his adventures and those of future jedi would be paying bills for decades.

Posted by: Inogame at June 29, 2023 05:11 PM (53oGX)

143 >>>101 Hmm. I didn't think the opening credit was bad.

I didn't watch it, but I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying AI is very cheap compared to hiring actual humans. And that Disney knew this would provoke outrage from the visual artists they rely upon (and abuse), and did it anyway to save a few dollars.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy, head hung in shame at June 29, 2023 05:11 PM (KRtlO)

144 141 Iger, Kennedy, etc... come from that mold. If they were capable of renouncing what they've done and seek proper atonement, they *might* be able to achieve greatness again in a generation. But they can't so they won't.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 29, 2023 05:10 PM (YIVH2)

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Kennedy never did anything great on her own. She's a corporate exec who secured money and supported quality creatives like Spielberg. That kind of executive is valuable in Hollywood, but they become disasters when they decide that they were the reason that Raiders of the Lost Ark was great, not the writers or director, and they're going to show the world.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:11 PM (LvTSG)

145 Iger, Kennedy, etc... come from that mold. If they were capable of renouncing what they've done and seek proper atonement, they *might* be able to achieve greatness again in a generation. But they can't so they won't.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

I think that's profound.
I'm pretty sure that's profound.
Nah, but it's a good observation!

Posted by: MkY at June 29, 2023 05:11 PM (cPGH3)

146 Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 29, 2023 04:56 PM (9RRW+)

Those of us who were adults in 1981 were all hotter back then.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for Public Office at June 29, 2023 04:58 PM (E1hGH)

1981 Janet Reno -what a smoke show!

s/

Posted by: Glenn John at June 29, 2023 05:11 PM (RilAR)

147 She's going to be too busy ruinin...wait...Tomb Raider? How do you ruin Tomb Raider? It's already shit.

I thought Alicia Vikander did good work in that. Of course, there may be other factors affecting my judgement.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 29, 2023 05:11 PM (eOEVl)

148 Wit, Hollywood writers are on strike? Like now?

Posted by: Skip at June 29, 2023 05:12 PM (xhxe8)

149 Even Spielberg doesn't like the second Indiana Jones.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 29, 2023 05:00 PM (eyxn4)

What are the odds that Spielberg doesn't like it now only because its "culturally insensitive" to India?

Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2023 05:12 PM (aRLgQ)

150 old black racists bitterly complaining that white men didn't promote them fast enough.
=
Nick Fury was literally the top spy on the planet, before the organization he oversaw turned out to be thoroughly compromised by "worse than the Nazis" Hydra, and he had to go into hiding.

Posted by: Methos at June 29, 2023 05:12 PM (kOpft)

151 >>140 I liked The Last Crusade because Sean Connery was in it

connery was 12 years older than harrison ford

people never realize this, but Roger moore was actually three years older than Sean Connery, but Connery is thought of as "the old one."

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy, head hung in shame at June 29, 2023 05:12 PM (KRtlO)

152
It's okay to not GAF about this stuff
KILL YOUR TELEVISION

Posted by: DB - spanning the globe at June 29, 2023 05:12 PM (geLO8)

153 149 What are the odds that Spielberg doesn't like it now only because its "culturally insensitive" to India?
Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2023 05:12 PM (aRLgQ)

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He was miserable through filming, the only bright spot being meeting Capshaw.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:12 PM (LvTSG)

154 Disney has a lot of capital to keep itself afloat for a while, but I do wonder at what point does the company, not just the movie/cable/TV part begin to collapse. If it ever does.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 29, 2023 05:08 PM (Q4IgG)

Disney has to close its deal to buy the rest of Hulu from Comcast in January IIRC. That's a minimum NINE BILLION DOLLAR hit. It spent $20 BILLION PLUS to buy the Fox movie catalog. It's barely generating enough free cash to make payroll, and that's coming mostly from the parks.

If it doesn't have the garage sale to end all garage sales the end may come sooner than most people expect.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 29, 2023 05:13 PM (guGkK)

155 >>>Nick Fury was literally the top spy on the planet, before the organization he oversaw turned out to be thoroughly compromised by "worse than the Nazis" Hydra, and he had to go into hiding.

lol. someone failed to position him for success.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy, head hung in shame at June 29, 2023 05:13 PM (KRtlO)

156 151 people never realize this, but Roger moore was actually three years older than Sean Connery, but Connery is thought of as "the old one."
Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy, head hung in shame at June 29, 2023 05:12 PM (KRtlO)

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Talking about Dr. Whos right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:13 PM (LvTSG)

157 100 Let me just say:

Disney owns the rights to Zardoz since they bought the 20th Century Fox library.

I demand a woke-reimagining of Zardoz!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:02 PM (LvTSG)

Imagine what KK and "The Force is female" ilk could do with an original flick with original opening lines like: "The gun is good; Penis is evil!"

Posted by: Thrawn at June 29, 2023 05:13 PM (Rl7KJ)

158 Even Spielberg doesn't like the second Indiana Jones.

It has the bones of a great movie, but they went too far trying to create thrills, and Kate screamshaw is annoying.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:05 PM (0hOvj)
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I find Temple of Doom to be the "pulpiest" of the three movies. Though it's deeply flawed in many ways, it perhaps most exemplifies the tone and style of pulp adventure fiction at its finest. If there is such a thing.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 29, 2023 05:13 PM (YIVH2)

159 Iger, Kennedy, etc... come from that mold. If they were capable of renouncing what they've done and seek proper atonement, they *might* be able to achieve greatness again in a generation. But they can't so they won't.

Word is that internally, they think they are making masterpieces. They are certain its all great and its only a few cranks on the internet that are ruining everything for them. They are excited and proud of stuff like Velma and She Hulk and The Eternals.

So they see no reason to actually reverse anything. Its all gold.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:13 PM (0hOvj)

160 Kennedy never did anything great on her own.

IIRC, Hurt Locker propelled her to fame. It was pretty good.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 29, 2023 05:13 PM (eOEVl)

161 "A smart CEO would stick her in a basement office with no secretary and have her count paper clips. Keep paying her while the lawyers figure out how to fire her. But keep her away from decisions.

Her salary is a triviality compared to the damage she has done.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo"

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Why are you assuming the current regime does not want her doing the things she is doing?

Posted by: Jay in PA at June 29, 2023 05:13 PM (i7Q7S)

162 146 1981 Janet Reno -what a smoke show!

indeed.

Posted by: waco, tx at June 29, 2023 05:13 PM (v3pYe)

163 1. They mean "spook" as exactly what it sounds like - a spy type of person - and either the press or Jackson doesn't understand that.
2. They mean "spook" as a racial pejorative because the writers are morons.
3. They mean "spook" as a double-entendre because the writers are self-impressed morons.
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Gore is talking about an exchange between Fury and the white chick from How I met Your Mother, in which he talks about being a spook and she says "You can't say that any more," and he responds "No, YOU can't say that any more."

Posted by: Methos at June 29, 2023 05:14 PM (kOpft)

164
lol. someone failed to position him for success.

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy, head hung in shame at June 29, 2023 05:13 PM (KRtlO)

ok, I lol'd too.

Posted by: Inogame at June 29, 2023 05:15 PM (53oGX)

165 160 Kennedy never did anything great on her own.

IIRC, Hurt Locker propelled her to fame. It was pretty good.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 29, 2023 05:13 PM (eOEVl)

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The Hurt Locker was Kathryn Bigelow, but she had been around for a while. She was Jim Cameron's ex-wife and had directed stuff like Strange Days.

Detroit, though, proved that she's a brainless leftist who got lucky with The Hurt Locker, which is more like a comic book movie than a war movie in how it treats its characters and situations.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:15 PM (LvTSG)

166 Related lulz:

"Bud Light boycotters decimating sales over Dylan Mulvaney promotion should think about employees, Anheuser-Busch CEO Brendan Whitworth says"

Posted by: Jay in PA at June 29, 2023 05:15 PM (i7Q7S)

167 >>>Gore is talking about an exchange between Fury and the white chick from How I met Your Mother, in which he talks about being a spook and she says "You can't say that any more," and he responds "No, YOU can't say that any more."

oh right, I forgot that part!

Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy, head hung in shame at June 29, 2023 05:15 PM (KRtlO)

168 166 Related lulz:

"Bud Light boycotters decimating sales over Dylan Mulvaney promotion should think about employees, Anheuser-Busch CEO Brendan Whitworth says"
Posted by: Jay in PA at June 29, 2023 05:15 PM (i7Q7S)

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InBev should think about its employees before it does shit to destroy its brand reputation and then blame the customers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:16 PM (LvTSG)

169 Per Chris Gore, the movie ends with a broken Indy wanting to just stay behind in the past to die.
Fleabag then punches him, knocking him out, and then she DRAGS him back to the present time.

This, after Indy was divorced from Marion and his son killed in Vietnam.

Unbelievable

Posted by: Lizzy at June 29, 2023 05:16 PM (6VLHU)

170 Can you imagine Star Wars if they embraced the heroes from Episodes 4-6?
Luke restarts the Jedi Order...
I mean the spin offs of his adventures and those of future jedi would be paying bills for decades.
Posted by: Inogame at June 29, 2023 05:11 PM (53oGX)
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All of the original Expanded Universe material based off of that idea *was* a cash cow for decades. Now I'm not sure if they can give the current EU materials away.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 29, 2023 05:16 PM (YIVH2)

171 Whoa Nellie.. Justice Thomas sure to Jumanji Browne Jackson to the proverbial wood shed.. And Disney sucks

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2023 05:16 PM (bs+z0)

172 The Hurt Locker was Kathryn Bigelow...

Ah, well that explains it.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 29, 2023 05:16 PM (eOEVl)

173 @90 Cicero, I would love to see a movie about Taylor Lorenz getting her ass kicked by jacked up Ewoks. That is the most creative Star Wars script idea in many years. You need to pitch that

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 29, 2023 05:16 PM (/WhKw)

174 Are we really sure Janet Reno wasn't a Trannie?

Posted by: Skip at June 29, 2023 05:16 PM (xhxe8)

175 162 146 1981 Janet Reno -what a smoke show!

indeed.
Posted by: waco, tx at June 29, 2023 05:13 PM (v3pYe)

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Holy shit, I accidentally laughed.

Posted by: Seems Legit. at June 29, 2023 05:17 PM (DcKNO)

176
"Bud Light boycotters decimating sales over Dylan Mulvaney promotion should think about employees, Anheuser-Busch CEO Brendan Whitworth says"
Posted by: Jay in PA at June 29, 2023 05:15 PM (i7Q7S)

Bud Light CEO decimating sales over Dylan Mulvaney promotion should think about employees, eminent Moron says. Oh, hell, who am I kidding?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 05:17 PM (MoZTd)

177 171 Whoa Nellie.. Justice Thomas sure to Jumanji Browne Jackson to the proverbial wood shed.. And Disney sucks
Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2023 05:16 PM (bs+z0)

"took" damned big fingers

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2023 05:17 PM (bs+z0)

178
We watched IJ and the Last Crusade last night. Easily my favorite of the trilogy (ex the River "He's SOOOO Wholesome!" Phoenix introduction).

Somebody on line spoke of ending a franchise versus killing a franchise. Stopping at Last Crusade would have ended the franchise -- go out on top and having remained true to how it started. What happened, starting with Crystal Skull, was killing the franchise, where each new release dragged the whole franchise deeper and deeper into a slough of despond.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot Egg-Fried: Proud Member of Clan Fried for ... oh, 'bout Four Weeks Now at June 29, 2023 05:18 PM (pNxlR)

179 I mean the spin offs of his adventures and those of future jedi would be paying bills for decades.
Posted by: Inogame at June 29, 2023 05:11 PM (53oGX)

The amount of revenue that Disney walked away from in merchandise licensing fees alone is mind-boggling.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 29, 2023 05:18 PM (guGkK)

180 169 Per Chris Gore, the movie ends with a broken Indy wanting to just stay behind in the past to die.
Fleabag then punches him, knocking him out, and then she DRAGS him back to the present time.

-------

uuuufffffffff

Posted by: Seems Legit. at June 29, 2023 05:18 PM (DcKNO)

181 I pine for the days of a smart military blog.

Posted by: MikhailN at June 29, 2023 05:18 PM (pBJsp)

182 I really enjoyed Raiders of the Lost Ark when it came out 40+ years ago.

Posted by: Regular joe at June 29, 2023 05:19 PM (nnp+f)

183 Word is that internally, they think they are making masterpieces. They are certain its all great and its only a few cranks on the internet that are ruining everything for them. They are excited and proud of stuff like Velma and She Hulk and The Eternals.

So they see no reason to actually reverse anything. Its all gold.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:13 PM (0hOvj)
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My point exactly. They are incapable of self-reflection or honest reception of feedback for their actions. In some sense they are solipsists, who only believe in their own reality. Others are just faceless entities with whom they interact from time to time, but ultimately have no bearing in their personal universes.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 29, 2023 05:19 PM (YIVH2)

184 Good. I hope morale is so low they all collectively drink a fatal dose of poison.

Posted by: JROD at June 29, 2023 05:19 PM (IlL6s)

185 178 Somebody on line spoke of ending a franchise versus killing a franchise. Stopping at Last Crusade would have ended the franchise -- go out on top and having remained true to how it started. What happened, starting with Crystal Skull, was killing the franchise, where each new release dragged the whole franchise deeper and deeper into a slough of despond.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot Egg-Fried: Proud Member of Clan Fried for ... oh, 'bout Four Weeks Now at June 29, 2023 05:18 PM (pNxlR)

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They should have recast by 1992 and put the new Indy in whole new adventures.

Indy was originally supposed to be the American James Bond in a way, and insisting that only Ford could play the role prevented that from actually happening.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:19 PM (LvTSG)

186 I think the seeds of Disney's implosion began with buying Marvel. The Lucas film purchase sealed the deal. All of the sudden Disney had to crank out endless variations, at a rapid rate for years on end, which lead to thematic and audience exhaustion on scale never seen in the entertainment business. The question for Disney became, how to keep all this going? Miraculously they chose the worst possible course of action: make everything Woke, gay, tranny, and girlpwr, because that was like all modern and cool and so much better that debasing themselves with cranking out entertainment for those reactionary cis-gender baby poppers. Much of what is wrong in the media is it has been highjacked the gheys, from news, to print, to Hollywood and reflects their increasingly militant viewpoint. Disney, to their complete credit, honked on that boner until they gagged; Indy 5 is an apex moment of all that and more. Then again I may just be talking out my butt. I am going with the second option.

Posted by: Lost In Space at June 29, 2023 05:20 PM (qxLut)

187 All of the original Expanded Universe material based off of that idea *was* a cash cow for decades. Now I'm not sure if they can give the current EU materials away.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 29, 2023 05:16 PM (YIVH2)

Apparently the Thrawn Trilogy sold 20 million copies. Current Disney Star Wars books sell 20,000.

Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2023 05:20 PM (aRLgQ)

188 176
"Bud Light boycotters decimating sales over Dylan Mulvaney promotion should think about employees, Anheuser-Busch CEO Brendan Whitworth says"
Posted by: Jay in PA at June 29, 2023 05:15 PM (i7Q7S)

Bud Light CEO decimating sales over Dylan Mulvaney promotion should think about employees, eminent Moron says. Oh, hell, who am I kidding?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 05:17 PM (MoZTd)

Yeah.. Brendan... maybe you should go back to your CIA days and color revolution people against coors light...
Or you could have owned the failure, apologized to your customers and resigned in disgrace.
I guess like a true deep state'r its just a reflex to blame the unwashed for your failures...
Go Fuck yourself and your groomjuice.

Posted by: Inogame at June 29, 2023 05:20 PM (53oGX)

189 181 I pine for the days of a smart military blog.
Posted by: MikhailN at June 29, 2023 05:18 PM (pBJsp)

We could talk about the build up of the Wagner group troops in Belarus....Disney's an easier topic...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2023 05:20 PM (bs+z0)

190
Good. I hope morale is so low they all collectively drink a fatal dose of poison.
Posted by: JROD at June 29, 2023 05:19 PM (IlL6s)

Hemlock! Get you an icy cold hemlock!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 05:20 PM (MoZTd)

191 Spoiler Alert (again): KK won't be getting fired.

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 29, 2023 05:20 PM (wNDOJ)

192 182 I really enjoyed Raiders of the Lost Ark when it came out 40+ years ago.
Posted by: Regular joe at June 29, 2023 05:19 PM (nnp+f)

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I loved that movie. Still do.

Posted by: Seems Legit. at June 29, 2023 05:20 PM (DcKNO)

193 >>> 109 107 How does Iger not see that Kennedy HAS to go? She's poison. Her ideas are not appealing to the audience. She's screwed 2 franchises. She's a fricking menace.
Posted by: Seems Legit. at June 29, 2023 05:03 PM (DcKNO)

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She does that thing with her tongue.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:04 PM (LvTSG)

To Bob Iger, or Larry Fink?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 29, 2023 05:21 PM (llON8)

194 Somebody on line spoke of ending a franchise versus killing a franchise. Stopping at Last Crusade would have ended the franchise -- go out on top and having remained true to how it started. What happened, starting with Crystal Skull, was killing the franchise, where each new release dragged the whole franchise deeper and deeper into a slough of despond.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot Egg-Fried: Proud Member of Clan Fried for ... oh, 'bout Four Weeks Now at June 29, 2023 05:18 PM

This is about me isn't it?

Posted by: Rocky Balboa at June 29, 2023 05:21 PM (ncXxy)

195 190
Good. I hope morale is so low they all collectively drink a fatal dose of poison.
Posted by: JROD at June 29, 2023 05:19 PM (IlL6s)

Hemlock! Get you an icy cold hemlock!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 05:20 PM (MoZTd)

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"Hemlock, for when you want your death to be a natural death without unhealthy additives."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:21 PM (LvTSG)

196
A Janet Reno adventure series would put Disney back in business!

Posted by: Auspex at June 29, 2023 05:21 PM (j4U/Z)

197 Most new movies stink, streaming services lose appeal with a only a few decent offerings each.

We're shot mentally. The VCR's and record players are being dug out of home storage. Video rental & record shops, art & drawing supply stores, pottery & sewing classes are reemerging in many towns.

They're all better ways to stay sane & entertained and, maybe, learn something useful.

The worse is yet to come for Disney & its ilk.

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect & speeds the security clearance process at June 29, 2023 05:21 PM (GshMh)

198 "Bud Light CEO decimating sales over Dylan Mulvaney promotion should think about employees, eminent Moron says. Oh, hell, who am I kidding?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh"

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You figured it out without going to Harvard like the CEO.
Harvard must be where all the smart people go, right?

Posted by: Jay in PA at June 29, 2023 05:21 PM (i7Q7S)

199 Go Fuck yourself and your groomjuice.
Posted by: Inogame at June 29, 2023 05:20 PM (53oGX)

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I call that fair.

Posted by: Seems Legit. at June 29, 2023 05:21 PM (DcKNO)

200 The only thing that was interesting about Temple of Doom was Dan Ackroyds cameo

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 29, 2023 05:21 PM (/WhKw)

201 " which is more like a comic book movie than a war movie in how it treats its characters and situations."

The idea that the main character got away with repeatedly endangering both himself and his teammates for schnitz and giggles and didn't end up chained to a desk somewhere really got old after awhile.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at June 29, 2023 05:21 PM (a9CYf)

202 196
A Janet Reno adventure series would put Disney back in business!
Posted by: Auspex at June 29, 2023 05:21 PM (j4U/Z)

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Except make her 19 years old, British, black, a tranny, Muslim, and fighting white supremacy with her bare hands and the most fire speeches.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:22 PM (LvTSG)

203 Spoiler Alert (again): KK won't be getting fired.
Posted by: McLurkerson at June 29, 2023 05:20 PM (wNDOJ)

The Dial of Dismalness is going to finally kill her. Mark my words.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 29, 2023 05:22 PM (guGkK)

204 I fully support the idea of bringing in a new cast of heroes to Star Wars, not just rehashing the same characters over and over as they age out and die. Andor seems like a great idea for a show, one without force powers just set in the universe doing a different kind of story. And apparently its pretty solid, too.

But the new characters have to be memorable, likable, iconic types, not mary sue and a bunch of loser guys who fail and are wrong all the time, or bleh guy who is mopey all the time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:22 PM (0hOvj)

205 Indy was originally supposed to be the American James Bond in a way, and insisting that only Ford could play the role prevented that from actually happening.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:19 PM (LvTSG)

Should have gone to Tom Selleck as intended.

Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at June 29, 2023 05:22 PM (OgrpQ)

206 I saw Slough of Despond way off Broadway in '03 or '04. Depressing.

Posted by: I'll be honest at June 29, 2023 05:22 PM (DhOHl)

207
Somebody on line spoke of ending a franchise versus killing a franchise. Stopping at Last Crusade would have ended the franchise -- go out on top and having remained true to how it started.

Casablanca II: Resistance Rick

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 05:22 PM (MoZTd)

208 201 " which is more like a comic book movie than a war movie in how it treats its characters and situations."

The idea that the main character got away with repeatedly endangering both himself and his teammates for schnitz and giggles and didn't end up chained to a desk somewhere really got old after awhile.
Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at June 29, 2023 05:21 PM (a9CYf)

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That's one of those Best Picture wins where I go, "I get it, because politics, but come on..."

Well, at least it kept Avatar from winning.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:23 PM (LvTSG)

209 >>166 Related lulz:

"Bud Light boycotters decimating sales over Dylan Mulvaney promotion should think about employees, Anheuser-Busch CEO Brendan Whitworth says"
Posted by: Jay in PA

The balls on that guy.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 29, 2023 05:23 PM (9RRW+)

210 "He chose poorly."

Great line from a great character.

Posted by: Seems Legit. at June 29, 2023 05:23 PM (DcKNO)

211
1981 Janet Reno -what a smoke show!

April 1993

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 29, 2023 05:23 PM (63Dwl)

212 210 "He chose poorly."

Great line from a great character.
Posted by: Seems Legit. at June 29, 2023 05:23 PM (DcK

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*nods sagaciously*

A minor side character from The Crying Game.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:24 PM (LvTSG)

213 "Bud Light boycotters decimating sales over Dylan Mulvaney promotion should think about employees, Anheuser-Busch CEO Brendan Whitworth says"
Posted by: Jay in PA

The balls on that guy.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 29, 2023 05:23 PM (9RRW+)

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Seriously, what kind of prick blames the consumer for shitty advertising?

Posted by: Seems Legit. at June 29, 2023 05:24 PM (DcKNO)

214 Cast Dwayne Johnson as Indiana Jones. He's good in over the top stuff.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 29, 2023 05:24 PM (2YtOq)

215 The original Indy and The Last Crusade are it for me...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2023 05:24 PM (bs+z0)

216 197 Most new movies stink, streaming services lose appeal with a only a few decent offerings each.

The Chosen.

Posted by: Check it out at June 29, 2023 05:25 PM (DhOHl)

217 A minor side character from The Crying Game.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:24 PM (LvTSG)

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hahhhhahahaha

Yes.

Posted by: Seems Legit. at June 29, 2023 05:25 PM (DcKNO)

218 I'm sure Kate Capshaw is a lovely woman.

The script did her no favors.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2023 05:25 PM (iziT8)

219
Seriously, what kind of prick blames the consumer for shitty advertising?
Posted by: Seems Legit. at June 29, 2023 05:24 PM (DcKNO)

Yeah, he might as well be in the arts and entertainment industry.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 05:25 PM (MoZTd)

220 Steve Jobs must be happy he got out

Posted by: SMOD at June 29, 2023 05:25 PM (RovqD)

221 There was a 90s movie called Peacemaker with Nicole Kidman and George Clooney that I thought was a good chance for an American James Bond franchise. It was well done, and I liked that both the male and female leads, who had diametrically opposed politics, both were right about some stuff and wrong about some stuff, and learned a bit along the way.

Just doing a serious Matt Helm series from the books would be a winner.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:25 PM (0hOvj)

222 I really enjoyed Raiders of the Lost Ark when it came out 40+ years ago. Posted by: Regular joe

I loved that movie. Still do.
Posted by: Seems Legit.

By some miracle I walked into a theater a day or two after Raiders hit the theaters and went to see it based on the movie poster alone. A month later I had seen 3 more times. It was truly was movie magic and one of my most beloved Hollywood action films of all time to this day. It is almost as good as Smokey and the Bandit. Almost.

Posted by: Lost In Space at June 29, 2023 05:25 PM (qxLut)

223 Related lulz:

"Bud Light boycotters decimating sales over Dylan Mulvaney promotion should think about employees, Anheuser-Busch CEO Brendan Whitworth says"
Posted by: Jay in PA

The balls on that guy.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 29, 2023 05:23 PM

You sure?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 29, 2023 05:26 PM (Wnv9h)

224 Tried to watch a Robin Williams movie recently -Hook. What a piece of crap. Hit fast forward about 1/2 way through, then stopped for credits. Kathleen Kennedy was one of the producers. Did Spielberg direct Hook? Still crap.

Posted by: Glenn John at June 29, 2023 05:26 PM (RilAR)

225 Speaking of entertainment, tonight is "The Match", a trash sports golf match between NFL and NBA star pairings, Mahomes/Kelse of KC, and Curry/Thompson of SF. Should be good as these kind of things go. Some thoughts.
1. Reminds me of the old Battle of the Network Stars. Should look those up on U-tube, damn fine displays of each and only two genders, IIRC.
2. There are no more "network stars" any more so far as I can see. If it wasn't for sports there would be no more networks as they were.
3. In this kind of trash golf match, I'd think Baseball/hockey would always be favored over football/basketball athletes. Body type mostly, but for some reason the hockey move translates into the golf swing particularly well.
4. For anyone much over 6'2" or so, golf becomes difficult. The friggin' ball is just two far away, and the swing circumference gets gives more opportunity to screw up.

Posted by: From about that Time at June 29, 2023 05:27 PM (4780s)

226 I really enjoyed Raiders of the Lost Ark when it came out 40+ years ago. Posted by: Regular joe

I loved that movie. Still do.
Posted by: Seems Legit.

By some miracle I walked into a theater a day or two after Raiders hit the theaters and went to see it based on the movie poster alone. A month later I had seen 3 more times. It was truly was movie magic and one of my most beloved Hollywood action films of all time to this day. It is almost as good as Smokey and the Bandit. Almost.
Posted by: Lost In Space at June 29, 2023 05:25 PM

Still love that movie.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 29, 2023 05:27 PM (Wnv9h)

227 The script did her no favors.

She was great in Big Trouble in Little China, but then everyone was.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:27 PM (0hOvj)

228
Tried to watch a Robin Williams movie recently -Hook. What a piece of crap. Hit fast forward about 1/2 way through, then stopped for credits. Kathleen Kennedy was one of the producers. Did Spielberg direct Hook? Still crap.
Posted by: Glenn John at June 29, 2023 05:26 PM (RilAR)

I may be a minority of one, but I detest Robin Williams.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 05:27 PM (MoZTd)

229 >>> 168 166 Related lulz:

"Bud Light boycotters decimating sales over Dylan Mulvaney promotion should think about employees, Anheuser-Busch CEO Brendan Whitworth says"
Posted by: Jay in PA at June 29, 2023 05:15 PM (i7Q7S)

========

InBev should think about its employees before it does shit to destroy its brand reputation and then blame the customers.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:16 PM (LvTSG)

I think the employees deserve better jobs (well, the ones who weren't involved in the retarded stunt), and the execs should all have to learn to code.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 29, 2023 05:27 PM (llON8)

230 166 Related lulz:

"Bud Light boycotters decimating sales over Dylan Mulvaney promotion should think about employees, Anheuser-Busch CEO Brendan Whitworth says"
Posted by: Jay in PA
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That was your job, as CEO!

Posted by: WisRich at June 29, 2023 05:27 PM (G0vdT)

231 The WB is absolutely unwatchable with all the alphabet people. In their Universe everyone is gay. You know what makes money? STRAIGHT LOVE STORIES. Maverick.

Posted by: SmileyGG at June 29, 2023 05:27 PM (oRwBU)

232 224 Tried to watch a Robin Williams movie recently -Hook. What a piece of crap. Hit fast forward about 1/2 way through, then stopped for credits. Kathleen Kennedy was one of the producers. Did Spielberg direct Hook? Still crap.
Posted by: Glenn John at June 29, 2023 05:26 PM (RilAR)

I liked Hook.

Bang-a-rang!

Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2023 05:28 PM (aRLgQ)

233 Spielberg. 1971. Duel. Dennis Weaver.

Posted by: Where it started at June 29, 2023 05:28 PM (DhOHl)

234 72 Keep laughing at them. Their Christmas tent pole, "the Bride and the Burro", is going to break all the records.

sounds like a hallmark christmas movie

Posted by: anachronda at June 29, 2023 05:28 PM (v3pYe)

235 "I may be a minority of one, but I detest Robin Williams."

Never liked him either, that's 2 of us.

Posted by: DaveX64 at June 29, 2023 05:29 PM (D7u6e)

236 That kid Mowgli, he was really scared the whole time that bear would eat him.

Posted by: Eromero at June 29, 2023 05:29 PM (z3WCn)

237 Crazy Ivan.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 29, 2023 05:29 PM (ncXxy)

238 My expectations for Indiana Jones and the Strap-On of Destiny cannot be lowered. They're already below the bottom of Hades.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 29, 2023 05:29 PM (KFhLj)

239 I may be a minority of one, but I detest Robin Williams.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 05:27 PM

When I was a kid, I thought he was hysterical. Now that I'm 29, I realize I was watching a train wreck.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 29, 2023 05:29 PM (Wnv9h)

240 "Spoiler Alert (again): KK won't be getting fired.

Posted by: McLurkerson"

Nor will Bob Iger. They have essentially nothing to lose.

They are destroying a thing Walt Disney built.

It's not their thing and they are rich and they don't care.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2023 05:29 PM (iziT8)

241 The only folks that use the word "capitalism" are Commies.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 29, 2023 05:29 PM (jgJfd)

242 sounds like a hallmark christmas movie
Posted by: anachronda at June 29, 2023 05:28 PM (v3pYe)

Not gay enough

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2023 05:29 PM (bs+z0)

243 When Anette Funicello took her boobs and left the mouse house I knew it was all over for disney.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 29, 2023 05:30 PM (ncXxy)

244 >>235 "I may be a minority of one, but I detest Robin Williams."

Never liked him either, that's 2 of us.
Posted by: DaveX64

It's a hat trick.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 29, 2023 05:30 PM (9RRW+)

245 I liked Robin Williams in small, controlled doses. But he would get really old, really fast.

I heard a story about him, someone was working on a show with him and he would get with people and just run gags and jokes on them until they laughed. That seems to be his entire life, he was just desperate to be liked.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:30 PM (0hOvj)

246 Disney died in 1967. There has been a great deal of good stuff since, but not in recent decades.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 29, 2023 05:30 PM (jgJfd)

247 "The only folks that use the word "capitalism" are Commies."

It's true! They're still stuck in the 20th century.

Posted by: DaveX64 at June 29, 2023 05:30 PM (D7u6e)

248
4. For anyone much over 6'2" or so, golf becomes difficult. The friggin' ball is just two far away, and the swing circumference gets gives more opportunity to screw up.
Posted by: From about that Time at June 29, 2023 05:27 PM (4780s)

Baseball is another sport where being too tall can be a liability. For a pitcher, you don't have quite the control over your body that a shorter guy does (Randy Johnson excepted). And look at Aaron Judge, who always seems to be injured.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 05:30 PM (MoZTd)

249 "Bud Light boycotters decimating sales over Dylan Mulvaney promotion should think about employees, Anheuser-Busch CEO Brendan Whitworth says"

Maybe he should have thought about the employees. Being that he's the fucking CEO and all.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 29, 2023 05:31 PM (KFhLj)

250 "I may be a minority of one, but I detest Robin Williams.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 05:27 PM

When I was a kid, I thought he was hysterical. Now that I'm 29, I realize I was watching a train wreck.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState"

Robin Williams was the anthropomorphization of cocaine.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2023 05:31 PM (iziT8)

251
Even Spielberg doesn't like the second Indiana Jones.

It has the bones of a great movie, but they went too far trying to create thrills, and Kate screamshaw is annoying.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:05 PM (0hOvj)

The first 20 minutes or so are pretty awesome, until they get through the rapids in India. Although Capshaw comes *this* close to napalming the whole movie before it even starts by being an annoying scrunt.

The rest of the film is like sushi accidentally left on the counter overnight.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 29, 2023 05:31 PM (n+4am)

252 Baseball is another sport where being too tall can be a liability.

Big tall guys have a huge strike zone, its a big drawback for batting. Pitchers do pretty well being tall, because they can really generate speed but batting is a problem.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:31 PM (0hOvj)

253 I liked Hook.

Bang-a-rang!
Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2023 05:28 PM

I'm with you. I thought it was funny. Except for Dustin Hoffman. Because fuck that guy.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 29, 2023 05:31 PM (Wnv9h)

254 Love the notion that boy otters are responsible for Bud Lite employees losing their jobs.
Were these employees on board with the transing of their products, or did management force it on them? Had the marketing gone as planned what would employee morale have been?

Seems their activism was being forced on them as much as on customers.

Your fault, InBev.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 29, 2023 05:32 PM (6VLHU)

255 253 I liked Hook.

Bang-a-rang!
Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2023 05:28 PM

I'm with you. I thought it was funny. Except for Dustin Hoffman. Because fuck that guy.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 29, 2023 05:31 PM (Wnv9h)

I didn't hate it and I wanted to punch the Son

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2023 05:32 PM (bs+z0)

256 Lol, autocorrect - boycotters

Posted by: Lizzy at June 29, 2023 05:33 PM (6VLHU)

257 Maybe they are doing this on purpose, to make it clear to the shareholders that Disney will never turn a profit again and make them sell. Then they can dedicate themselves to promoting socialism or racial justice or whatever with the remaining money for as long as it lasts. Then they retire.

Posted by: PG at June 29, 2023 05:33 PM (84jHt)

258 If I had to pick my favorite Disney movie it would be the original Jungle Book. Now compare that to anything Disney has cranked out over that last few years. If nothing else watching Disney commit suicide over the last decade has been the most entertaining thing they have done since the Jungle Book.

Posted by: Lost In Space at June 29, 2023 05:33 PM (qxLut)

259 Robin Williams was the anthropomorphization of cocaine.
Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2023 05:31 PM

"Cocaine...our gift to the white man, for what he did for us."

Can't say he wasn't familiar with the Bolivian Marching Powder.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 29, 2023 05:33 PM (Wnv9h)

260 The script did her no favors.

She was great in Big Trouble in Little China, but then everyone was.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:27 PM

Everyone in that movie was fantastic because not a single one of them took it seriously. They knew they that movie was gonna bomb just based on the script alone and they all went in and just had fun making the movie.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 29, 2023 05:33 PM (ncXxy)

261 >> Except for Dustin Hoffman. Because fuck that guy.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState a

He's 85. I just added him to my Ghoul Pool 2023

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 29, 2023 05:34 PM (9RRW+)

262 I guess the "live action" remake Jungle Book was good, but I have not seen it. I love those stories, some of Kipling's best work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:34 PM (0hOvj)

263 Robin Williams has been far more tolerable for several years now.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 29, 2023 05:34 PM (KFhLj)

264 Raiders of the Lost Ark was fantastic.

The first ride I ever went on at Disneyland was the Raiders ride. It took me back to that first movie and seeing it in the theater.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 29, 2023 05:34 PM (cPLO/)

265 The Disney Minus TV show is about old black racists bitterly complaining that white men didn't promote them fast enough.

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All they need now are eight more on the Supreme Court to have life imitate "art."

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 29, 2023 05:35 PM (d9aGi)

266 He's 85. I just added him to my Ghoul Pool 2023
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 29, 2023 05:34 PM

*adds Rain Man to the death pool*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 29, 2023 05:35 PM (Wnv9h)

267
I may be a minority of one, but I detest Robin Williams.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 05:27 PM (MoZTd)

Considering how he ended, I'm pretty sure that Robin Williams detested Robin Williams.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 29, 2023 05:35 PM (n+4am)

268 Robin Williams has been far more tolerable for several years now.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 29, 2023 05:34 PM (KFhLj)

Yes, he has calmed down noticeably.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 29, 2023 05:35 PM (guGkK)

269 I liked Hook.
Bang-a-rang!
Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2023 05:28 PM

I'm with you. I thought it was funny. Except for Dustin Hoffman. Because fuck that guy.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 29, 2023 05:31 PM (Wnv9h)

2-1/2 hours for what is supposed to be a children's story is ridiculously long. Went off the rails half way through and my wife and I gave up on it.

Posted by: Glenn John at June 29, 2023 05:35 PM (RilAR)

270 262 I guess the "live action" remake Jungle Book was good, but I have not seen it. I love those stories, some of Kipling's best work.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:34 PM (0hOvj)

What about the actual live action remake?

Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2023 05:35 PM (aRLgQ)

271 I didn't watch it, but I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying AI is very cheap compared to hiring actual humans. And that Disney knew this would provoke outrage from the visual artists they rely upon (and abuse), and did it anyway to save a few dollars.
Posted by: Lamont the Big Dummy, head hung in shame at June 29, 2023 05:11 PM (KRtlO)

Understand. I guess I was thinking about the opening credits by the art team that has done numerous Netlix series intros that I've watched. They seem to have a given formula just like AI. Perhaps I'm surprised that these artists didn't see this coming before now.

Or maybe they did and that's why they're striking.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 29, 2023 05:35 PM (BdMk6)

272 237 Crazy Ivan.

this is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: prigozhin at June 29, 2023 05:35 PM (v3pYe)

273 Robin Williams always deeply irritated me as a comedian. His dramatic roles were better though.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 29, 2023 05:35 PM (oINRc)

274 The first ride I ever went on at Disneyland was the Raiders ride. It took me back to that first movie and seeing it in the theater.

Last time I was in Disneyland they were just starting to build that ride. Now I'll never go back

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:35 PM (0hOvj)

275 Walt Disney made cartoons. Iger and Kennedy are also making cartoons. Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and Marvel character-movies were and are nothing more than half real actors and sets/half special effects cartoons. No matter how much Disney touts them as action-adventure/important life-lesson movies.

Walt branched-off from Mickey Mouse cartoons and kept making money. The current management losers keep spending astronomical amounts of money on stale cartoon ideas, failing to see that to make money, they need to branch-off from long-running product lines as Walt did.

Posted by: Gref at June 29, 2023 05:35 PM (AMIL/)

276 I think Star Wars and Indiana Jones could have been better with someone other than Harrison Ford. I'm not a fan. That goes double for old Harrison Ford.

Posted by: polynikes at June 29, 2023 05:35 PM (cxHZm)

277 Kate Capshaw and Kim Catrall are not the same person

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 29, 2023 05:35 PM (jgJfd)

278 I have to say in InBev's defense with the Dylan Mulvaney fiasco, that after they managed to convince a butt-ton of US beer drinkers that Stella Artois was premium Euro suds they probably thought they could get away with ANYTHING.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at June 29, 2023 05:36 PM (a9CYf)

279 What about the actual live action remake?

Well I put live action in quotes because the animals were all CGI so...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:36 PM (0hOvj)

280 I'm reading the book "Cary Grant The making of Hollywood right now. It's pretty good. Things were sure different between 1950 up until about 1985 and then it just went to shit.

Posted by: Ethan Saunders at June 29, 2023 05:36 PM (W1E3x)

281 Kate Capshaw and Kim Catrall are not the same person
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 29, 2023 05:35 PM (jgJfd)

Hmm.

Now do Bill Paxton and Bill Pullman.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 29, 2023 05:37 PM (guGkK)

282 >>> 241 The only folks that use the word "capitalism" are Commies.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 29, 2023 05:29 PM (jgJfd)

Direct from the maid-banger Marx.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 29, 2023 05:37 PM (llON8)

283 Raiders of the Lost Ark was fantastic.

The first ride I ever went on at Disneyland was the Raiders ride. It took me back to that first movie and seeing it in the theater.

Posted by: nurse ratched

Blast from the past: I first saw Raiders at the Southcenter Theater.

https://tinyurl.com/3hjkx6s5

Posted by: Lost In Space at June 29, 2023 05:37 PM (qxLut)

284 277 Kate Capshaw and Kim Catrall are not the same person

have you ever seen one drinking water while the other is singing?

just asking questions.

Posted by: anachronda at June 29, 2023 05:37 PM (v3pYe)

285 Robin Williams always deeply irritated me as a comedian. His dramatic roles were better though.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 29, 2023 05:35 PM (oINRc)

He plays a good psycho / bad guy.

Posted by: polynikes at June 29, 2023 05:37 PM (cxHZm)

286 Maybe they can remake Hercules, except Hercules is babysitting his niece, and she uncovers an evil plot by Ares and Zeus who kidnap Hercules, then she turns out to be a Warrior Goddess who defeats all of the Gods and becomes Queen Goddess, the most powerful ever.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 29, 2023 05:38 PM (3KF2i)

287 "Robin Williams has been far more tolerable for several years now."

He's a bit quieter now, which is nice.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2023 05:38 PM (iziT8)

288 276 I think Star Wars and Indiana Jones could have been better with someone other than Harrison Ford. I'm not a fan. That goes double for old Harrison Ford.

harpo marx was busy

Posted by: anachronda at June 29, 2023 05:38 PM (v3pYe)

289 Amazing the quality of entertainment you can find on YouTube.

Posted by: Crowdsourced at June 29, 2023 05:38 PM (DhOHl)

290 Hailstorm right now

Posted by: DB - spanning the globe at June 29, 2023 05:38 PM (geLO8)

291 I want John Wick #4.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 29, 2023 05:39 PM (7sboT)

292 Oh, and she has a lesbian trans lover.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 29, 2023 05:39 PM (3KF2i)

293 I kinda liked Hook, at least for acts 1 and 2. The final act with the juxtaposition of the realistic sword fights with the comical weapons used by the Lost Boys didn't mesh with me, but *shrug*. I'd rather watch Hook than the various abominations made with Peter Pan over the last few years.

Oh, and France might be undergoing a version of the "Summer of Love" right now.

https://tinyurl.com/49j3fvjd

Posted by: Thrawn at June 29, 2023 05:39 PM (Rl7KJ)

294 Kate Capshaw and Kim Catrall are not the same person

Are we sure?

You're right I was confusing the two. When I look at her sort of short career I see nothing at all I liked her in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:39 PM (0hOvj)

295 279 What about the actual live action remake?

Well I put live action in quotes because the animals were all CGI so...
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:36 PM (0hOvj)

I know what you're talking about. I'm talking about the real live action one, that had real animals. Starring Jason Scott Lee, who also portrayed Bruce Lee in Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story, and Liu Kang in Mortal Kombat.

Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2023 05:39 PM (aRLgQ)

296
His dramatic roles were better though.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 29, 2023 05:35 PM (oINRc)

Might have been. I've never seen any. All I can remember is a guy trying so hard to be funny I wanted to punch him.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 05:39 PM (MoZTd)

297 Robin Williams always deeply irritated me as a comedian. His dramatic roles were better though.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 29, 2023 05:35 PM

He did do drama well.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 29, 2023 05:40 PM (Wnv9h)

298 Wait didn't play Liu Kang, was just considered for the role.

Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2023 05:40 PM (aRLgQ)

299 "Now do Bill Paxton and Bill Pullman."

Paxton was more WTF????

And Pullman was more "hmmm".

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2023 05:40 PM (iziT8)

300 9 "Now do Bill Paxton

Chet ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 29, 2023 05:40 PM (bs+z0)

301 214 Cast Dwayne Johnson as Indiana Jones. He's good in over the top stuff.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 29, 2023 05:24 PM (2YtOq)

Vin Diesel and The Rock in "The Bald Hunky Men of Destiny"

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, Freelance Agent to the Stars at June 29, 2023 05:41 PM (PiwSw)

302 Does Dial Of Destiny have a Wilhelm Scream?

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 29, 2023 05:41 PM (xPl2J)

303 Lot of things wrong with Temple Of Doom

'sacred stones'- BFD
kid sidekick for Indy
Indy actually strikes the kid at one point
some really ridiculous action sequences- that thing with them floating to Earth on a life raft, then glissading down a mountain- what crap

Posted by: DB - spanning the globe at June 29, 2023 05:41 PM (geLO8)

304 I did a check of my local theater on Fandango for the 3pm Indiana Jones show at 2:30pm, when people are probably just entering the theater.... Less than a dozen friggin' tickets sold. I checked Santa Maria, CA for the next closest theater. Same there for the 3pm.

This dog turd will be the biggest loss for a movie ever and I'm so happy about it.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at June 29, 2023 05:41 PM (zdYK9)

305 I'm talking about the real live action one, that had real animals. Starring Jason Scott Lee,

I watched about a third of that, it was kind of boring, which is odd because I like him and the story should be great

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 05:41 PM (0hOvj)

306 He did do drama well.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 29, 2023 05:40 PM (Wnv9h)

Robin Williams did okay along Al Pacino in "Insomnia".

Posted by: Thrawn at June 29, 2023 05:41 PM (Rl7KJ)

307 {100}... I demand a woke-reimagining of Zardoz!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 29, 2023 05:02 PM (LvTSG)

And throw the scriptwriting at ChatGPT to "create", and watch it kick out an "ERROR 601".

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at June 29, 2023 05:41 PM (nRMeC)

308 Might have been. I've never seen any. All I can remember is a guy trying so hard to be funny I wanted to punch him.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 29, 2023 05:39 PM (MoZTd)

You would like August Rush . It has a bit of classical performances.

In fact I may pull out that DVD to watch tonight.

Posted by: polynikes at June 29, 2023 05:41 PM (cxHZm)

309 Oh, and France might be undergoing a version of the "Summer of Love" right now.

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The only solution now is to import millions more third world illegal aliens.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 29, 2023 05:42 PM (d9aGi)

310 A friend wants to go see the movie about child trafficking. No thanks.

Posted by: I'll pass at June 29, 2023 05:42 PM (DhOHl)

311 I did a check of my local theater on Fandango for the 3pm Indiana Jonesshow at 2:30pm, when people are probably just entering the theater.... Less than a dozen friggin' tickets sold. I checked Santa Maria, CA for the next closest theater. Same there for the 3pm.

This dog turd will be the biggest loss for a movie ever and I'm so happy about it.
Posted by: Little Larry Sellers

My local theater is at about 37%

Posted by: Lost In Space at June 29, 2023 05:42 PM (qxLut)

312
I suspect that men who can transport Queer Beer from location A to location B can also transport just about anything else somewhere. Pathetic CEO's hiding behind them deserve a kick in the nads.

Learn to code, ceo.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 29, 2023 05:42 PM (enJYY)

313 I liked the Fisher King when I saw it back in the 1990s.
Not sure if I would like it now. It was kind of strange.

Posted by: Glenn John at June 29, 2023 05:43 PM (RilAR)

314 liked the Fisher King when I saw it back in the 1990s.
Not sure if I would like it now. It was kind of strange.
Posted by: Glenn John at June 29, 2023 05:43 PM (RilAR)

I think it holds up very well. Williams got to play serious and goofy.

Posted by: polynikes at June 29, 2023 05:44 PM (cxHZm)

315 " I liked the Fisher King when I saw it back in the 1990s."

"I wave my wienie at the world!"

Words to live by, my friend. Words to live by.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at June 29, 2023 05:44 PM (a9CYf)

316 Williams was good in Dead Poets Society.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 29, 2023 05:44 PM (PiwSw)

317 As a comedian, Robin Williams was the polar opposite of Norm MacDonald

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 29, 2023 05:45 PM (guGkK)

318 I liked the Fisher King when I saw it back in the 1990s.
Not sure if I would like it now. It was kind of strange.
Posted by: Glenn John

Watched it for the first time since it was in the theaters a couple of weeks ago. It has held up quite well. It is a good film

Posted by: Lost In Space at June 29, 2023 05:45 PM (qxLut)

319 Robin Williams was a method comedian.

That method was "inhale a pound and a half of straight cocaine then wander onto the nearest stage".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 29, 2023 05:45 PM (9UlRk)

320 My local theater is at about 37%
Posted by: Lost In Space at June 29, 2023 05:42 PM

Crazy! I also checked tomorrow at 7pm, figuring Friday night should be pretty good. Same. Less than a dozen seats sold in advance.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at June 29, 2023 05:45 PM (zdYK9)

321 Williams was STRONG AND BRAVE in Ms. Doubtfire.

Posted by: reason at June 29, 2023 05:46 PM (tfY4F)

322 Zardoz reboot:

Dylan Mulvaney as Zed
Lizzo as the Charlotte Rampling character
Patton Oswalt as Arthur Frayn

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 29, 2023 05:46 PM (PiwSw)

323 Isnt it funny the Woke movie executives can never just create something completely new to drive their agenda?

Make an adventure/action movie with a female protagonist. No one is stopping you. One of the most beloved Sc-Fi movies of all time is Alien(s) with Sigourney Weaver. From the late 1970's. There are no barriers.

It always has to be some existing franchise where they need to strip the white male of everything. They're far more invested in that side of the equation.
Posted by: Blago at June 29, 2023 04:49 PM (cOFom)

The character Modesty Blaise immediately comes to mind. A smart, tough and sexy woman spy.

But instead we get Phloebag.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 29, 2023 05:46 PM (pJWtt)

324 NOOD Biden Family Syndicate

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 29, 2023 05:46 PM (guGkK)

325 "I did a check of my local theater on Fandango for the 3pm Indiana Jonesshow at 2:30pm, when people are probably just entering the theater.... Less than a dozen friggin' tickets sold. I checked Santa Maria, CA for the next closest theater. Same there for the 3pm.

This dog turd will be the biggest loss for a movie ever and I'm so happy about it.
Posted by: Little Larry Sellers

My local theater is at about 37%

Posted by: Lost In Space"

I just can't fathom what would entice someone to see and 80 year old Indiana Jones.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2023 05:47 PM (iziT8)

326 Chris Gore discusses a scene between Nick Fury and Rhodie, two black men, in which Nick Fury says that they're not the kind of men who got jobs because of who their daddies were, and that they had to take jobs of "mediocre men who didn't look like us." That is, white men (spit).

Best part of this... Nick Fury was WHITE originally. And Rhodie? Yeah, given his suit by a WHITE GUY.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 29, 2023 05:47 PM (oHd/0)

327 newd

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2023 05:47 PM (iziT8)

328 Kate Capshaw quit acting to marry Spielberg.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 29, 2023 05:47 PM (jgJfd)

329 Word I heard around LA comedy clubs back in the day was that if the comedians got tipped off that Robin Williams was in the audience they stuck to their older material in their act; he had a reputation as a notorious joke stealer.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at June 29, 2023 05:48 PM (a9CYf)

330 Never saw Hurt Locker because I'd heard it shat on the military, back when I cared about the military.

Posted by: Regular joe at June 29, 2023 05:48 PM (nnp+f)

331
A friend wants to go see the movie about child trafficking. No thanks.

Posted by: I'll pass at June 29, 2023 05:42 PM

Yeah, I'm with you. But I have decided to sent some money to the anti-trafficker organizations instead of theater attendance.

Some shit in this world which I can not possibly do a damn thing about? Don't make me feel bad because I'm a failure in that respect. I will help. But some people need to become seriously dead over the issue. Starting at the top of the DNC. Theoretically.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 29, 2023 05:48 PM (enJYY)

332 I just can't fathom what would entice someone to see and 80 year old Indiana Jones.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2023 05:47 PM

That acts old and gets told he's old by an annoying hag for 2 hours? What's wrong with that? haha

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at June 29, 2023 05:49 PM (zdYK9)

333 >>>@216 ... The Chosen
Produced by Angel Studio
≈====================
Another film from this group -- SOUND OF FREEDOM -- will be in theaters starting Monday (July 3rd) ... Jim Caviezel (Passion of Christ) portrays a former Federal agent involved in the mission of rescuing children from traffikers ... You can purchase tickets for yourself as well as extras so that more people can be made aware of what's happening to innocent children around the world.

Posted by: Kathy at June 29, 2023 05:49 PM (JklXp)

334
Well, Phoebe Waller-Bridge could be the new thing for the usual reasons-

she is a libtard's libtard and she fucks like a crazed weasel on bath salts, which Hollywood bigwigs appreciate.

Also, maybe it's a bit of the trannie thing too.

PW-B has a rather manish face. She's not beautiful or even particularly cute. Call her "handsome" though and that's spot on.

She's there to frustrate your "male gaze" or turn it in a more fabulous direction.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 29, 2023 05:50 PM (fb7jX)

335 176
"Bud Light boycotters decimating sales over Dylan Mulvaney promotion should think about employees, Anheuser-Busch CEO Brendan Whitworth says"
Posted by: Jay in PA at June 29, 2023 05:15 PM (i7Q7S)

Meanwhile, Dylan is mad at A-B/InBev. Here's the headline of a story up now on DailyMail -

'I love beer and I always have!': Dylan Mulvaney breaks her silence on $20 billion Bud Light fiasco to excoriate the troubled brand for NOT standing by her... and then claims she has lost THAT can

https://tinyurl.com/34p5n3us

Posted by: Gref at June 29, 2023 05:50 PM (AMIL/)

336 Does Dial Of Destiny have a Wilhelm Scream?
Posted by: Mark1971 at June 29, 2023 05:41 PM (xPl2J)

In a rifftrax there was a screeching yowl, and Mike says "someone just threw Wilhelm's Cat." Always got a chuckle out of me.

Also, a total non-sequitur line from Mike, "I saw an episode of Cops where they pulled a skinny guy from under a couch."

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at June 29, 2023 05:50 PM (T/Lqj)

337 I watched secret invasion - it is shit.

Besides racism we have:

Nick Fury (personally) promises he's going to find a new home world for the alien Skruls (who have spaceships). They are pissed because he breaks his promise.

a) he doesn't have a spaceship
b) he was in no position to promise them jack.
c) he was vaporized for 5 of the last 30 years.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at June 29, 2023 05:51 PM (nJ1bF)

338 Never saw Hurt Locker because I'd heard it shat on the military, back when I cared about the military.

Posted by: Regular joe at June 29, 2023 05:48 PM

I don't recall that, but maybe I just can't remember. I thought it was the most intense movie I've ever seen. I was grabbing the armrests for the whole movie. I thought it was the best film that year.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at June 29, 2023 05:51 PM (zdYK9)

339 The actress Emilia Clarke looks to be about 16. She's just a small person. In a fistfight she looks...ridiculous.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at June 29, 2023 05:52 PM (nJ1bF)

340 Same Jackson shuffles around looking very old and tired.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at June 29, 2023 05:53 PM (nJ1bF)

341 Word I heard around LA comedy clubs back in the day was that if the comedians got tipped off that Robin Williams was in the audience they stuck to their older material in their act; he had a reputation as a notorious joke stealer.
Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at June 29, 2023 05:48 PM (a9CYf)

A friend of mine once told me that Robin Williams stole Dick Shawn's material and used it for his show. I never got to see Dick Shawn doing stand up. I have really only seen Shawn in Its a Mad Mad Mad ... World. Too bad.

Posted by: Glenn John at June 29, 2023 05:53 PM (RilAR)

342 "'I love beer and I always have!': Dylan Mulvaney breaks her silence on $20 billion Bud Light fiasco to excoriate the troubled brand for NOT standing by her... and then claims she has lost THAT can"

You didn't LOSE it, sweetie; you just didn't want it back after we 'recovered' it for you.

Posted by: That Nice Emergency Room Proctologist That Never Called! at June 29, 2023 05:53 PM (a9CYf)

343 Oh, they kill Colby Smothers character - the only person showing any sign of life.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at June 29, 2023 05:53 PM (nJ1bF)

344 Don’t forget Emilia Clarke is in Secret Invasion. Other than Game of Thrones, has she been in anything remotely successful? Solo was horrible, the Terminator movie was horrible. I know she has been in other movies, but they are unremarkable. She might be as much of a franchise killer as Fleabag.

Posted by: Eric at June 29, 2023 05:54 PM (a2F+C)

345 The main skrull has an accent so think I can't understand a word he says. That and Samuel L Jackson mumbling into his beard. I literally have to watch scenes 2-3 times to understand what the fuck they are saying.

Don Cheadle seems to be shrinking with age - get that guy a sandwich - stat!

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at June 29, 2023 05:56 PM (nJ1bF)

346 Nothing I like better than to see my heroes, old and decrepit, getting upstaged by entitled brats.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at June 29, 2023 05:59 PM (nJ1bF)

347 I can’t make it through the derivative AI excrement.

If you mean that opening credits, I only watched about 1/3 of it but I couldn't tell it apart from human-generated derivative excrement.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 29, 2023 06:10 PM (nfrXX)

348 Phoebe Waller-Bridge speaks to Kathleen Kennedy - mousy, born rich, boozy, sexually liberated, not especially attractive, and mostly untalented.

She the new Lena Dunham. The new Amy Schumer.

These actresses have a strong appeal to a small demographic of rich, bored, white women of marginal talent and looks. In a TV show they can pull in ratings. Not great ratings, but good enough. And they win a lot of awards - because they appeal strongly to a small group of powerful women. They become critically acclaimed - mostly because reviewers that fall into this demographic LOVE these women.

But in a broad sense...yeah. No sale. Nobody wants to see them in anything.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at June 29, 2023 06:11 PM (nJ1bF)

349 Remember the show "Girls"? That shit was on for years. Nobody watched it, but reviewers LOVED it. Then they started sticking Lena Dunham into all sorts of crap, and it never worked. Because she's untalented and not attractive.

Phebe Waller bridge - same deal. Oh fuck's she's British too!?

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at June 29, 2023 06:13 PM (nJ1bF)

350 "Bud Light boycotters decimating sales over Dylan Mulvaney promotion should think about employees, Anheuser-Busch CEO Brendan Whitworth says"

That's good. Mewling appeals to pity are great for building brand image.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 29, 2023 06:14 PM (nfrXX)

351 Yes Rhodie "EARNED" his suit of armor.

How exactly? Right, Rhodie stole it. Then the white guy he stole it from decided it was okay and let him keep it.

Nice lecture on how you earned your place in the world dude.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at June 29, 2023 06:16 PM (nJ1bF)

352 STOP casting SMALL women in action roles.

Rhonda Rousey. Charlize Theron. Gina Carrano. Get a woman at least 6 feet tall with a few muscles. Even Milo Javoinavich and Uma Therman.

Watching stick women beat up guys 100 lbs heavier is really dumb. I'm sick of it.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at June 29, 2023 06:21 PM (nJ1bF)

353 LOL

Erica Marsh, field organizer for Joe Biden, Volunteers at Obama foundation, blue check on twitter:

"Today's Supreme Court decision is a direct attack on black people. No black person will be able to succeed in a merit-based system which is exactly why Affirmative Action based programs were needed. Today's decision was a TRAVESTY!!!"

I shit you not.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 29, 2023 06:39 PM (0hOvj)

354 Dial of Destiny is a Disney movie about time travel. So's 2007's Meet the Robinsons. I'd rather have a MtR sequel than a DoD one, and I'm not alone.

Posted by: hurricane567@gmail.com at June 29, 2023 07:53 PM (hRKV6)

355 "In summary, 36 percent disapproved in some form, 34 percent approved, while 31 percent neither approved nor disapproved, or didn't know how they felt."

That's 101%.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist and occasional math nazi at June 29, 2023 08:53 PM (Mzdiz)

356 Quick check of seat availability for the Thursday night 10:00 showing (in iMax): 10 seats sold out of a theater of 200.

Not looking too good here in the Midwest.

Posted by: Chuck N at June 29, 2023 09:18 PM (g5x/H)

357 "Secret Invasion" the comics miniseries had a fantastic concept. In execution, however, it was deadly dull -- so boring that I dropped it halfway through.

I haven't touched any book written by Brian Bendis since.

Although we have Disney+ -- my wife's doing -- don't expect me to watch any of it.

Posted by: Weak Geek, late as usual at June 29, 2023 09:30 PM (p/isN)

358 >Phloebag: And you stole from indigenous people, too!

Here's where having a degree in Classical Studies/Ancient History/Archaeology comes in handy.

The _only_ time Indy is shown "stealing from indigenous people - the _only_ time - is the opener to _Raiders_, when he's swiping the golden idol from the Hovitos.

There's just one problem: given the level of technology shown by the Hovitos in their attire and weaponry, they could not have cast the idol or built the complex that housed it. So the idol wasn't theirs in the first place. They were worshipping the artifacts of an earlier civilization, whose land they had taken over and occupied.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at June 30, 2023 12:17 PM (JABiU)

359 Before there was Fleabag, there was the plethora of historical fiction books casting a woman spy as winning World War II. Note that the female spies only were in Europe; in places like Paris, Berlin, and Amsterdam. There were no female spies in Tokyo or Warsaw.
Inevitably, the female spies gravitated to film. What was a fun Wonder Woman became a steady march of 5'2" women destroying every male who entered their path. Then came Fleabag, where the women pretended what they would be like if they lived in 1960. To be fair to women, Hollywood men have always fantasized how they would kill Hitler if they lived in 1944. In reality though, they supported every move towards totalitarianism that Leftist have come up with.

Posted by: william ferrin at June 30, 2023 03:43 PM (jKw3+)

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