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Biden: "I Sold a Lot of State Secrets..."

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NBC News: "Vice President Kamala Harris' net-negative rating (-17) is the lowest for any vice president in the poll's history."

No one is surprised to hear that Kamala goes down on a lot of polls.

DeSantis: I can win the nomination because, unlike some "candidates," I'm actually running for the nomination and not just to be vice president or a Fox contributor.

"We can do it; we'll do it," DeSantis told a town hall in North Augusta, South Carolina, on Thursday. "The only reason I'm running is to win and deliver on these promises. That's the only reason."
DeSantis suggested the crowded field challenging Trump might not be there to truly run for president.
"I'm not trying to get my name out there," DeSantis continued. "I don't want to get some contributorship with one of these media outlets. I don't care about any of that. We're running to win and deliver.
"That's the only reason to run, and I feel compelled to do it."
DeSantis did not mention GOP candidates potentially jockeying for vice president, but he did warn of the danger of President Joe Biden, 80, getting reelected and having to hand the White House baton off to his running mate Vice President Kamala Harris.
"If we muff this one and Biden gets in again, heck, you may end up with Kamala as president even," DeSantis warned.

Blackrock's ESG King Larry Fink: I want to be the political kingmaker in this country but I don't want people talking about me being the political kingmaker in this country.

BlackRock CEO Larry Fink said he's no longer using the term "ESG" (environment, social and governance) because it is being politically "weaponized" and he's "ashamed" to be part of the debate on the issue.
Why it matters: How the world's largest asset manager frames its investment approach is a leading indicator for the market. BlackRock manages $9.2 trillion.
What we're watching: Fink's latest statement is sure to generate plenty of controversy.
The backstory: BlackRock's bullish outlook on responsible environmental, social and governance investing is being blasted by conservatives as "woke capitalism" and has drawn boycotts from Florida and Texas.
Fink has been a major proponent of factoring in climate change risks to investing strategies and corporate leadership.
What's new: In a conversation at the Aspen Ideas Festival on Sunday, Fink acknowledged that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' decision to pull $2 billion in assets hurt his firm in 2022, but made clear last year was his company's best with net flows of $200 billion from U.S. clients.
What he's saying: "I'm ashamed of being part of this conversation," Fink said.
"When I write these [investment] letters, it was never meant to be a political statement. ... They were written to identify longterm issues to our longterm investors," he told the crowd.

In more Woke Fake Capitalism News: Starbucks' union protested at various franchise locations, alleging that their precious ~~"pride"~~ Shame signage had been taken down.

Dozens of Starbucks U.S. locations were picketed on Sunday over allegations by the baristas' union that managers at several stores removed Pride flags and decor. On Friday, the union announced the strike, which is purported to be joined by 3,000 workers at over 150 Starbucks over the next week, making it the largest national strike against Starbucks ever staged.
Near the route of the city's Pride parade, workers picketed outside a lower Manhattan, New York store on Sunday, chanting, "New York is a union town! On Strike! Shut it down!" Several customers refused to cross the picket line to patronize the establishment. Maggie McKeon, a would-be customer heading into the location, decided to turn around after hearing about the strike, saying: "If people are going to be affected by this, then I'm with them, not the company."

Boy I sure hope nothing bad happens to Starbucks. Or to Starbucks' "barrista union."

That would be terrible!

Biden: "I sold a lot of state secrets..."

Is this old r@pist trying to be sarcastic?

He did pass off US intelligence to Hunter, to use to impress foreign "business partners."

BIDEN (last week): "I sold a lot of state secrets and a lot of very important things..." pic.twitter.com/eyEaQEevRp
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) June 26, 2023

Children intermingled with adult perverts at a "clothing optional" nudist "pride" event in Sodom on the Hudson.

The purported "clothing-optional" event ignited a firestorm of criticism online.
"Sex and sexuality is something that should happen in private. Everyone understands this except for the 'queer' movement which wants to be explicitly sexual in public where children can see them, and then cry about 'oppression' when people don't like it," tweeted Matt Anwar, New York Young Republican Club Finance Chair.
"Anything to do with kids and 'clothing optional' is vile. You are not on an adult only cruise ship, you are in the middle of a city. If you attended this and thought it was 'ok'... we can't be friends," tweeted political commentary group LGB (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual).
"This is why there is so much push back against celebrating Pride. It's not a mystery. Libertarians supported equal rights long before Biden & clan. But not for this," tweeted political commentary profile Being Libertarian.

Disgusting video of groomers and perverts here.

At least some gays see this train about to run off the cliff and are speaking out against Militarized Degeneracy.

But many who demand tolerance offer NONE in return:

Seattle pic.twitter.com/NvuUSwMeeT
— Clown World ™ 🤡 (@ClownWorld_) June 26, 2023

In this clip, a pro-woman activist wades into a "pride" rally with a sign supporting women's rights, and the gay mob attacks her. Apparently leftists are defending this attack by claiming the woman wanted to be punched, and the bloodthirsty mob just did her the favor of punching her.

Should we all take that attitude with people holding signs we don't like? Asking for about 100 million friends.

Karen Townsend points out that RFK, Jr. is none-too-subtly contrasting his level of health and vitality with Biden's, and inviting a GAINZZZ debate.

Getting in shape for my debates with President Biden! pic.twitter.com/ns8MdJVlmx
— Robert F. Kennedy Jr (@RobertKennedyJr) June 25, 2023

"But you have to follow your heart. Believe that you have a unique group of talents and abilities that are going to allow you to accomplish something in an area that interests you. Work at that and try to make some kind of contribution to your community.

-Robert Kennedy, Jr. pic.twitter.com/khsbEvX4cv
— Ryan (@ryan__calder) June 24, 2023

Posted by: Ace at 06:40 PM

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1 I'm sure lots of the gays think they're just goofing around with the whole "Satan loves you" stuff, but it's like a Ouija board. You might not know what you're doing, but you're still opening a portal to something a lot more powerful than you, that you can neither understand or control.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 26, 2023 06:36 PM (O69GV)

2 I hope Starbucks and the "barista" union both lose and lose bigly.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 26, 2023 06:38 PM (17s+e)

3 Fink has been a major proponent of factoring in climate change risks to investing strategies and corporate leadership.

Which is a cute trick being that there is no way to "factor in climate change risks".

There simply is no objective definition of "climate change". Thus it is not possible to calculate risks to that which can not be measured. "Climate Change" only exists in computer models.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 06:38 PM (p8A+W)

4 No one is surprised to hear that Kamala goes down on a lot of polls.

This should be bolded and in superscript. It's a new classic and deserves the attention.

Posted by: huerfano at June 26, 2023 06:39 PM (7zEAH)

5 On the Glee Gang front, Annie Outhouse wants you to know "of course they were joking."

For the love of Christ in heaven I wish Glenn would quit linking that cat lady.

Posted by: sven at June 26, 2023 06:39 PM (X0I7i)

6 It's not all gays who invoke Satan. Most gays hold Jesus Christ nearly as dear as cock.

Posted by: Neverending Heterosexual Apology Chorus at June 26, 2023 06:39 PM (ppBhU)

7 The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine

Black Easter by James Blish. The sequel Day after Judgement was bleak.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 26, 2023 06:40 PM (u82oZ)

8 Read the content. Rookie mistake.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 26, 2023 06:40 PM (Wnv9h)

9 Why the fvck would a grown a$$ man have video taken of him sans shirt working out as a political ad? Does he style himself as another putin riding a horse shirtless?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 26, 2023 06:40 PM (ncXxy)

10 Oops.......

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 26, 2023 06:40 PM (ncXxy)

11 Where'd the content go?

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at June 26, 2023 06:41 PM (7jATk)

12 What debate?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 26, 2023 06:41 PM (63Dwl)

13 "When I write these [investment] letters, it was never meant to be a political statement. ... They were written to identify longterm issues to our longterm investors,"

Look, just give us Sudetenland and we'll go home. Cross my heart.

Posted by: Paco at June 26, 2023 06:41 PM (njExo)

14
What in tarnation?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 26, 2023 06:41 PM (MoZTd)

15 No rep on the pushups; needs full extension

Posted by: observer at June 26, 2023 06:41 PM (FBltX)

16 RFK jr. is ripped.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 26, 2023 06:41 PM (MeG8a)

17 I broke the blog...

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 26, 2023 06:41 PM (ncXxy)

18 Biden going to challange RFK Jr. to a Push Up contest ??

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 26, 2023 06:43 PM (9e2kV)

19 I'm sure lots of the gays think they're just goofing around with the whole "Satan loves you" stuff, but it's like a Ouija board. You might not know what you're doing, but you're still opening a portal to something a lot more powerful than you, that you can neither understand or control.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 26, 2023 06:36 PM

It is generally not a good idea to solve puzzles that open portals to hell, just sayin.......

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 26, 2023 06:43 PM (ncXxy)

20 Also, what is he benching? 105? lol

Posted by: observer at June 26, 2023 06:44 PM (FBltX)

21 BlackRock CEO Larry Fink said he's no longer using the term "ESG" (environment, social and governance)

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It's mind-blowing to me that they're openly stating that this way. Governance. It's right there in the name. Private industry can have bosses, but it's not governance. They're outright saying that you've got to support socialism/communism in order to get the loan.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 26, 2023 06:44 PM (O69GV)

22 No rep on the pushups; needs full extension
Posted by: observer at June 26, 2023 06:41 PM (FBltX)

Yup. he looks to be in good shape, but them are no-go pushups.

Drill Sergeant: "Zero. Zero. Zero. Zero."

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at June 26, 2023 06:44 PM (T/Lqj)

23 I'm gettin willowed on every thread

Daywalkers are non-nooders

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 26, 2023 06:44 PM (RIvkX)

24 hiya

Posted by: JT at June 26, 2023 06:44 PM (T4tVD)

25 >>DeSantis: I can win the nomination because, unlike some "candidates," I'm actually running for the nomination and not just to be vice president or a Fox contributor.

DeSantis will win no states, will get less than 20pct in any state and be out of the race before Super Tuesday.

His consolation prize will be continuing to be the Governor of Florida.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 26, 2023 06:45 PM (up/3i)

26 Satan comes to kill, steal and destroy. He is incapable of love.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2023 06:45 PM (Keyt1)

27 And I was trying to think of where we are with technology working the way it is. It's certainly fascism, but I sort of feel like this is something borderline new. Tech, government, media, medicine, industry, etc. working together and in sync at the worldwide level. What's the name for this?

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 26, 2023 06:45 PM (O69GV)

28 It is generally not a good idea to solve puzzles that open portals to hell, just sayin.......

Wait. Wut?

Posted by: guy who thinks Hellraiser is an instruction manual at June 26, 2023 06:45 PM (ppBhU)

29 Biden going to challange RFK Jr. to a Push Up contest ??

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 26, 2023 06:43 PM (9e2kV)

Mandelbraum! Mandelbaum!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 26, 2023 06:45 PM (79Su5)

30 RonnieD is really puffing out his chest to be the biggest meatball, isn't he?

Oh, watching the faith thing over the weekend, I listened to all the presidential candidates. Christie everyone has heard of the boos, but Larry Elder's view is he can be the guy to MAGA without Trump. Same policy bullet points, exactly if I may say.

Posted by: micky at June 26, 2023 06:45 PM (3byMq)

31 You know, it prolly isn't a good idea to invoke stan. He may just show up. Then what are you going to do?

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 26, 2023 06:45 PM (k+EOy)

32 So Junior is benching 25s and 10s? With the bar, that's 115#. For a guy who's 69, that's pretty good. (At ZH, lotta spec he's on juice, but consider the source.) I don't have a bench so I have to do dumbbell presses on my couch, 1 arm at a time. I'm up to 40# x 15, 50# x 13, 3 x 50 x 12. 50+50 = 100, which would be 2(25# + 2.5#) + the 45# bar. Given that a bar is easier than single dumbbells, I can probably do 10 reps of what Junior is doing. Wait, I just noticed he doing it incline. Ok, no. Maybe 5 reps.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 26, 2023 06:45 PM (KAi1n)

33 They don't like RFK because in the general he will siphon votes from Biden, making their fraud that much harder. I suggest if he keeps doing well in the polls, he may want to hire a food taster...

Posted by: Vertitas at June 26, 2023 06:45 PM (13g9V)

34 Biden will talk of taking RKK jr out behind the gym ... but he will lose his way ... Jill will fight RFK ... RFK won't fight back, but won't get hurt, despite Jill's slap fest fury.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 06:45 PM (Cus5s)

35 21 BlackRock CEO Larry Fink said he's no longer using the term "ESG" (environment, social and governance)

--

It's mind-blowing to me that they're openly stating that this way. Governance. It's right there in the name. Private industry can have bosses, but it's not governance. They're outright saying that you've got to support socialism/communism in order to get the loan.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 26, 2023 06:44 PM (O69GV)

There is a term, corporate governance, which it is referring to.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 06:45 PM (eYoxG)

36 RFK jr may be muscular looking for his age but he’s weak as shit. Weaker than shit.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2023 06:46 PM (MNhXM)

37 1. I'm sure lots of the gays think they're just goofing around with the whole "Satan loves you" stuff, but it's like a Ouija board. You might not know what you're doing, but you're still opening a portal to something a lot more powerful than you, that you can neither understand or control. - the Recovered remains etc.

Exactly so. Interviews with Father Amorth, the late chief exorcist of the Vatican, are replete with examples.

Posted by: Paco at June 26, 2023 06:46 PM (njExo)

38 I'm sure lots of the gays think they're just goofing around with the whole "Satan loves you" stuff, but it's like a Ouija board. You might not know what you're doing, but you're still opening a portal to something a lot more powerful than you, that you can neither understand or control.

That is the Gospel according to Hollywood, some perverted mix of Witches and Warlocks.

In the book of Job, Satan must ask permission from God. Later in the NT, our LORD tells Peter that Satan has asked permission to "sift him like wheat". In the second half of Romans 1, Paul describes that God "turns them over" as their own sin escalates.

Since the carnal man is already a slave to sin and death, there isn't opening any "portal", its more of a function of ignoring one's own seared conscience, taking delight in increasing levels of evil, made secure even further due to God pushing people towards Outer Darkness because of their sin.

Satan is involved in the temptation and lies game. Albeit, I do not believe that the angelic host is omnipresent or omniscient or omnipowerful, given eight billion people on planet Earth, doubtful that anyone gets special attention.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 06:46 PM (p8A+W)

39
DeSantis will win no states, will get less than 20pct in any state and be out of the race before Super Tuesday.

His consolation prize will be continuing to be the Governor of Florida.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

And Biden will be reelected. Alive or not.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 26, 2023 06:47 PM (63Dwl)

40 I'm gettin willowed on every thread

Daywalkers are non-nooders

Posted by: San Franpsycho

--

I just got here and got lucky.

That said, generally if you see the downriver guy post, there's a new thread up.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 26, 2023 06:47 PM (9ULwW)

41 22 No rep on the pushups; needs full extension
Posted by: observer at June 26, 2023 06:41 PM (FBltX)

Yup. he looks to be in good shape, but them are no-go pushups.

Drill Sergeant: "Zero. Zero. Zero. Zero."
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at June 26, 2023 06:44 PM (T/Lqj)

But he maintains plank position well. I'd venture to say RFKjr has mobility issues with his shoulders. All in all, though, kudos to him for "getting it" as far as fitness goes.

Posted by: observer at June 26, 2023 06:47 PM (FBltX)

42 Also, what is he benching? 105? lol
Posted by: observer

Looks like 115 and it's incline, not flat. And he's 69. Unless there's some gimmick involved, at least a little respect is warranted.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 26, 2023 06:47 PM (KAi1n)

43 lol
Chris Hayes thinks RFK is using "Gear" (steroids).
Looks like he's incline benching 165 pounds.

Posted by: Potato Of The United States at June 26, 2023 06:47 PM (t6XCL)

44 Biden says the quiet part out loud again!

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 26, 2023 06:48 PM (MeG8a)

45 "I sold state secrets..."

Limited hangout.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 26, 2023 06:48 PM (RIvkX)

46 @36

>>RFK jr may be muscular looking for his age but he’s weak as shit. Weaker than shit.

He looks like he takes a weekly IMI of 1ml of Testosterone Enanthate or Test Cypionate, some Nolvadex Chasers to keep the Est in check and a couple units of HCG to keep the boys puffy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 26, 2023 06:49 PM (up/3i)

47 Chris Hayes thinks RFK is using "Gear" (steroids).
Looks like he's incline benching 165 pounds.
Posted by: Potato Of The United States at June 26, 2023 06:47 PM (t6XCL)

115 lbs

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2023 06:49 PM (MNhXM)

48 DeSantis will win no states, will get less than 20pct in any state and be out of the race before Super Tuesday.

His consolation prize will be continuing to be the Governor of Florida.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

And Biden will be reelected. Alive or not.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 26, 2023 06:47 PM

Undead or alive he is coming with me......

Posted by: Mister Grimm Doing Some Reaping at June 26, 2023 06:49 PM (ncXxy)

49 I hope Starbucks and the "barista" union both lose and lose bigly.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 26, 2023 06:38 PM (17s+e)

Where "I must not cross picket lines because I am pro-labor" conflicts with "oooh, my caramel half oat-millk macchiato with the special sprinkes!"

Posted by: Kindltot at June 26, 2023 06:49 PM (xhaym)

50 Being the filter from Sundowner's mush brain to his mouth is no existing he no doubt sold a few, or hundreds of secrets to his employer the Chinese

Posted by: Skip at June 26, 2023 06:49 PM (xhxe8)

51 Biden will talk of taking RKK jr out behind the gym ... but he will lose his way ... Jill will fight RFK ... RFK won't fight back, but won't get hurt, despite Jill's slap fest fury.

She will kick him in the nuts because RFK is the only politician in Babylon DC that has any.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 06:49 PM (p8A+W)

52 Larry Fink says he will stop using the term ESG. From now on it will be SEG . And they'll keep pushing the exact same agenda and behavior.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 26, 2023 06:49 PM (/WhKw)

53 Ok groomers, you are only on this Earth for 80 years. Live it up now, because the rest of eternity in Hell is going to suck.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 26, 2023 06:50 PM (Ss3pk)

54 I read Brandon and MethTeeth with a thing for Young Girls met at Camp David with Brandon's new shiny legal defense team. Oh, to be a fly on the wall.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 26, 2023 06:50 PM (EnsGU)

55 I almost got willowed, so I'll say it here: $6,000,000 says OSI > CIA

Posted by: SFGoth at June 26, 2023 06:50 PM (KAi1n)

56 I'm kind of a couch potato, and just got diagnosed with "runner's knee". LOL.

I tried jogging one time, but I quit; my cigarette kept going out.

Posted by: Paco at June 26, 2023 06:51 PM (njExo)

57 Is this thing working?

Posted by: Eromero at June 26, 2023 06:51 PM (Uv0D2)

58 RFK only managed about 6 pushups.

Wasn't his uncle all whacky about vim and vigor and athleticism?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 26, 2023 06:51 PM (Ss3pk)

59 Satan is involved in the temptation and lies game. Albeit, I do not believe that the angelic host is omnipresent or omniscient or omnipowerful, given eight billion people on planet Earth, doubtful that anyone gets special attention.

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What I've never been able to follow is that they're admitting God exists, has all the power that He has, and they have chosen the loser.

The only thing sillier is maybe an atheist.

"Okay, so our planet got knocked into this position after this explosion, and then lightning hit this mud puddle, right?"

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 26, 2023 06:52 PM (9ULwW)

60 >>Looks like 115 and it's incline, not flat. And he's 69. Unless there's some gimmick involved, at least a little respect is warranted.

I'm impressed. Guy is closing in on 70.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 26, 2023 06:52 PM (ZLI7S)

61 RIP to my neighbor who just passed away.

He was a D-Day veteran.

https://tinyurl.com/DrKerner

Posted by: scottst at June 26, 2023 06:52 PM (ojBxe)

62 Bro, do you even lift?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 26, 2023 06:52 PM (RIvkX)

63 yeah, I never liked lifting, but wondered about RFK being so much more puffed up than the weight he was lifting.

I was always tall and lank, could hit (volleyball) or throw pretty hard, but it was all in the long leverage. Lifting was too boring .. but now I have to do a little for my shoulder. Should do more.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 06:52 PM (Cus5s)

64 32 SF Goth well done!! I'm 63 and have been an avid crossfitter ( just ask me ;P) for 10 years. I'm up to 185 for 5 haha! Mobility is key as you age.

Posted by: observer at June 26, 2023 06:52 PM (FBltX)

65 RFK only managed about 6 pushups.

Wasn't his uncle all whacky about vim and vigor and athleticism?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 26, 2023 06:51 PM (Ss3pk)

Not Marine Pushups.

Posted by: John Winger at June 26, 2023 06:52 PM (gmo/4)

66 Well, he is RFK. So I'm guessing he could take Jill out back and do her in the Rose Garden while the old geezer is comatose. I'd like to see that come up at a debate- "Well Joe, speaking of failures, I'd rate Jill a Quick Check Pulled Pork Queen 2. Bit of a screamer, too. But to quote my uncle, ask not what your country can do for you, and all that jazz".

Posted by: Vertitas at June 26, 2023 06:53 PM (13g9V)

67 They don't like RFK because in the general he will siphon votes from Biden, making their fraud that much harder. I suggest if he keeps doing well in the polls, he may want to hire a food taster...

Since the Democratic Primary is the General Election, we all should register D and vote against Biden.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 06:53 PM (p8A+W)

68 I'm impressed. Guy is closing in on 70.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 26, 2023 06:52 PM (ZLI7S)

Yes...but maybe put on a shirt.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 26, 2023 06:53 PM (PHmov)

69
Wasn't his uncle all whacky about vim and vigor and athleticism?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 26, 2023 06:51 PM (Ss3pk)

He liked to swim. And his cousin liked to golf.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 26, 2023 06:54 PM (79Su5)

70 The guy who posted the RFK video said that was a drop set, down from 230. I'd like to think that he's getting his money's worth from the pharmaceuticals that he does approve of.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at June 26, 2023 06:54 PM (3vCGB)

71 RFK only managed about 6 pushups.

Wasn't his uncle all whacky about vim and vigor and athleticism?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 26, 2023 06:51 PM (Ss3pk)

Congratulations, you just doubled your money.

Posted by: Russell Ziskey at June 26, 2023 06:54 PM (gmo/4)

72 Has anyone seen Phil Collen (Def Leopard)? Dude is jacked. Very few rockers look like him in their 60's, especially with all the partying.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 26, 2023 06:55 PM (KAi1n)

73 "oooh, my caramel half oat-millk macchiato with the special sprinkes!"
Posted by: Kindltot at June 26, 2023 06:49 PM (xhaym)
===
They make that? That sounds awesome. I never go but someone gave me a gift card and I'm getting that.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 26, 2023 06:55 PM (RIvkX)

74 RFK only managed about 6 pushups.

Wasn't his uncle all whacky about vim and vigor and athleticism?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Vim Vigor and Vitalicky ?

Posted by: JT at June 26, 2023 06:55 PM (T4tVD)

75 I'm impressed. Guy is closing in on 70.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 26, 2023 06:52 PM (ZLI7S)

Yes...but maybe put on a shirt.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 26, 2023 06:53 PM (PHmov)

Nyet!

Posted by: Putin at June 26, 2023 06:55 PM (gmo/4)

76 Satan comes to kill, steal and destroy. He is incapable of love.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

I read an essay recently that said Satan has sway over this world, this life on earth. The more I think about it and the more I see what is happening in the world, the more I agree.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 26, 2023 06:55 PM (EnsGU)

77 I took RFK Jr. to my gym once when escorting and driving his family for some conference in my AO. He likes to bike on the stationary bike for about an hour and he does go hard at it. He’s in good shape for his age, drug use, whore chasing and hepatitis.

He likes to work out to keep the urge to merge and drug use away.

I threw a towel at him when I went to retrieve him from the locker room and he gave me that “you rotten peasant” look.

He’s a lefty but a decent fella.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 26, 2023 06:56 PM (R/m4+)

78 guy who posted the RFK video said that was a drop set, down from 230. I'd like to think that he's getting his money's worth from the pharmaceuticals that he does approve of.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at June 26, 2023 06:54 PM (3vCGB)

So did he just do 100 push ups and the 7 1/2 that he filmed was right after ?

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2023 06:56 PM (MNhXM)

79 RIP to my neighbor who just passed away.

He was a D-Day veteran.

https://tinyurl.com/DrKerner
Posted by: scottst

RIP !

Posted by: JT at June 26, 2023 06:56 PM (T4tVD)

80 Wasn't his uncle all whacky about vim and vigor and athleticism?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 26, 2023 06:51 PM (Ss3pk)
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I believe JFK created the Fitness Council. In h.s. I had to climb a rope because of him.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 26, 2023 06:56 PM (RIvkX)

81 Albeit, I do not believe that the angelic host is omnipresent or omniscient or omnipowerful, given eight billion people on planet Earth, doubtful that anyone gets special attention.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 06:46 PM
Jesus asked 'What is your name?' and the answer was 'Legion'.

Posted by: Eromero at June 26, 2023 06:57 PM (Uv0D2)

82 Why didn’t he post the 230 set?

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2023 06:57 PM (MNhXM)

83 I read Brandon and MethTeeth with a thing for Young Girls met at Camp David with Brandon's new shiny legal defense team. Oh, to be a fly on the wall.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 26, 2023 06:50 PM (EnsGU)
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You have to give them credit for neutralizing the Hunter Bomb so effectively, cutting a sweetheart deal with the DOJ and still leaving open an investigation that will last forever and never result in any additional charges. Now they can say Hunter has "pled guilty" and yet still take a Fifth defense against being interviewed by Congress. Joe probably thinks this is great protection.

But it is starting to unwind. Whistleblowers are proving to be the X-factor Slow Joe didn't count on. As a Democrat, and as protection from Trump, he thought "no way a bureaucrat flips on me", but there are (it seems) a few honest men still in Washington. Maybe.

And the Hunter laptop is still out there as independent evidence, no matter what Hunter now says or his legal pleas.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 26, 2023 06:57 PM (1rvQN)

84 If they don't like the term ESG, I'll just call it by it's real name: Transnational Fascism.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 26, 2023 06:57 PM (jzzG8)

85 RFK Jr. looks ripped, but he can't do pushups for shit. And that's not really what I'm looking for in a presidential candidate anyway...

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 26, 2023 06:58 PM (XMwZJ)

86 @72

>>Has anyone seen Phil Collen (Def Leopard)? Dude is jacked. Very few rockers look like him in their 60's, especially with all the partying.

A steady diet of Anabolic Chicken keeps the oldsters jacked.

If my Dr. would prescribe me some TRT level sh*t I'd be more than happy to get on some gear but sadly, it seems I'm within the normal range for my age.

But If I was a 12 year old girl and said I was a boy, he'd prescribe all of the hormones my heart desired.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 26, 2023 06:58 PM (up/3i)

87 I believe JFK created the Fitness Council. In h.s. I had to climb a rope because of him.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

So you're not really 29 ?

Posted by: JT at June 26, 2023 06:58 PM (T4tVD)

88 Yes...but maybe put on a shirt.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 26, 2023 06:53 PM (PHmov)
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What's the prob?
-Geraldo

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 26, 2023 06:58 PM (RIvkX)

89 SF Goth well done!! I'm 63 and have been an avid crossfitter ( just ask me ;P) for 10 years. I'm up to 185 for 5 haha! Mobility is key as you age.
Posted by: observer

185 for 5, at 63? Respect. I'm a shorty (5'8") so that works against me but you're right, gotta move, move, move. And did you say you're an avid vegan, just ask you? I'll pass.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 26, 2023 06:59 PM (KAi1n)

90 79 RIP to my neighbor who just passed away.

He was a D-Day veteran.

https://tinyurl.com/DrKerner
Posted by: scottst

RIP !
Posted by: JT at June 26, 2023 06:56 PM (T4tVD)

The last survivor of the attack on Pearl Harbor passed away recently too. Soon they will be all gone and probably see no reason for staying around with the misfits running the nation...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 26, 2023 06:59 PM (TGPs7)

91 (At ZH, lotta spec he's on juice, but consider the source.)
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They always blame the Juice there!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 26, 2023 06:59 PM (Vwz3I)

92 The only thing sillier is maybe an atheist.

"Okay, so our planet got knocked into this position after this explosion, and then lightning hit this mud puddle, right?"

I dunno, the Scriptures read that the scoffers are "willfully ignorant" - meaning that they have zero desire to know the Truth, and will go out of their way to make sure it stays that way.

I got out of the Crevo debates years ago because it was like debating Leftists (often it was) who make stuff up on the fly. Its a stupid game where they mindlessly cut & paste from an atheist website and then expect others to form elaborate well documented rebuttals or admit they are wrong.

When I would ask: So what version of Evolution do you subscribe to? Classical, Neo-Darwinism, Catastrophism, Punctuated... (list a few more). I never got an answer.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 06:59 PM (p8A+W)

93 Iggy Pop was ripped. Of course it was 110 lbs of rippedness but ripped nonetheless.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2023 07:00 PM (MNhXM)

94 HHS Becerra says they are going to cut off Medicaid funds to states which won't do "gender affirming care" to children.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 26, 2023 07:00 PM (63Dwl)

95 guy who posted the RFK video said that was a drop set, down from 230

If he can bench 230 at that age, he's kicking ass.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 26, 2023 07:00 PM (ppBhU)

96 46 @36

>>RFK jr may be muscular looking for his age but he’s weak as shit. Weaker than shit.

He looks like he takes a weekly IMI of 1ml of Testosterone Enanthate or Test Cypionate, some Nolvadex Chasers to keep the Est in check and a couple units of HCG to keep the boys puffy.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 26, 2023 06:49 PM (up/3i)

Lol. Nah, he does half that HRT and doesn't need the est blocker or the HCG. He watches his diet and trains regularly. I love to see it.

Posted by: observer at June 26, 2023 07:00 PM (FBltX)

97 > In the book of Job, Satan must ask permission from God.

I really think most of that conversation is allegorical.

1. God asks Satan "From whence have you come?" I'm believe God knows where Satan is and has been at all times.

2. Satan was cast out of God's presence. I don't believe Satan has the ability to approach God unannounced.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 26, 2023 07:01 PM (R38qh)

98 Satan Loves... Kamala Harris.

That I can believe and she probably polished his knob too...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 26, 2023 07:01 PM (TGPs7)

99 HS Becerra says they are going to cut off Medicaid funds to states which won't do "gender affirming care" to children.

--

Anyone else old enough to remember when Obamacare passed and something similar was the worse thing ever in the history of history?

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 26, 2023 07:02 PM (9ULwW)

100 RFK Jr. looks ripped, but he can't do pushups for shit. And that's not really what I'm looking for in a presidential candidate anyway...

But what if you saw a photo of him riding shirtless and bareback on a horse crossing a stream?

Would that motivate you?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:02 PM (p8A+W)

101 I often think of Satan as the counterexample.... yes, by rational analysis, human beings should side with Satan. We are practically brethren spirits. Created as the brightest pinnacle, yet Damned to failure by our very nature as a direct result of how we were created.

And yet... there is no mechanism for reconciliation open to The Bearer of Light. His failure is once and done and eternal. We, on the other hand, have been given the option to forgive our creator for creating us, and to accept and love Him as He loves us. To embrace our creation, however flawed, even though we never asked for it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2023 07:02 PM (9UlRk)

102 OT, but the Hallmark channel is running its Christmas movies. Woof.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 26, 2023 07:02 PM (EnsGU)

103 My step dad said "they keep promising to do something for the WW2 vets, they better hurry up" (paraphrased).

He did go on one of those honor flight tours, but I don't think he thought that was what "do something" meant. (because we do so much for the oligarchs when bailing out the billionaires and making sure the military industrial complex gets paid a few trillion)

Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 07:02 PM (Cus5s)

104 Benchmark of gainzz, 7/7/22 to now, is I have lost 35 pounds.

Lightest I've been in 34 years. With more room to lose.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 26, 2023 07:02 PM (u82oZ)

105 I speculate that the RFK Jr. video was to capitalize upon the interview with Joe Rogan where they discussed the large number of health "experts" who are out of shape slobs who have no interest in actually helping anyone at all become healthy or fit. They are only interested in getting the proles to follow Drs orders and buy more product so they get their cut.

It was a very long interview and I actually watched the whole interesting thing even though I have no interest in voting for a commie like Jr.

Posted by: Just Lily at June 26, 2023 07:02 PM (RLLZj)

106 Well, now you know that we send all of our gay, white walruses to Seattle.

Posted by: Albino Walruses at June 26, 2023 07:03 PM (xxG/v)

107 guy who posted the RFK video said that was a drop set, down from 230

If he can bench 230 at that age, he's kicking ass.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 26, 2023 07:00 PM (ppBhU)

Yeah I maxed 300 the other day but I had my guy post my cool down set of 135.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2023 07:03 PM (MNhXM)

108 DeSantis cannot run for VP (assuming Trump gets the nom) because both from the same state.

Doh.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 26, 2023 07:03 PM (ga8qR)

109 . Satan was cast out of God's presence. I don't believe Satan has the ability to approach God unannounced.

So the forty days with Satan in the wilderness, Jesus was lying about that?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:03 PM (p8A+W)

110 I am one of three daughters. My dad never walked around without any clothes on, not even in his underwear. My ex was the same. We had a boy and girl and he never was without clothing in their presence. I thought this was normal behavior for men. I see these men walking around in the streets, naked, and it is incomprehensible to me.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 26, 2023 07:04 PM (lxNsC)

111 many years ago, the great comedian jackie mason said that starbuck's coffee tasted like a burnt pot, and he was absolutely right

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2023 07:04 PM (B1FKF)

112 The Presidential Physical Fitness Test

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 26, 2023 07:04 PM (RIvkX)

113 HHS Becerra says they are going to cut off Medicaid funds to states which won't do "gender affirming care" to children.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 26, 2023 07:00 PM

Nice agency youse got dere. Shame if something wuz to happen to it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 26, 2023 07:04 PM (Wnv9h)

114 Back in 2010 DiFi and RFK got into a very public patronage power tussle over energy transmission routing through the Mojave desert wilderness - they didn’t care about the environmental question - just the right to dole out contracts to their toady supplicants.

EDF = $

Posted by: 13times at June 26, 2023 07:05 PM (cdwVa)

115 I don't know how they were able to undertake the survey and what amazing texts they must have had, but the early Christian Apologists (think 100 - 200 AD) estimated that at the time of the rebellion in Heaven there were approximately 520 million angels and out of that figure, 140 million joined with Lucifer and were cast out.

That may explain many of the troubles in the world.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 26, 2023 07:05 PM (TGPs7)

116 DeSantis cannot run for VP (assuming Trump gets the nom) because both from the same state.

Doh.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

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This has been discussed at length for the last what, six months?

Gosh, if only Trump owned property in another state. Darn the luck!

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 26, 2023 07:05 PM (9ULwW)

117 I really think most of that conversation is allegorical.

People should pull a page out of their Trumpian apologetics and take Job seriiously but not literally. The book makes no good moral sense at all when read literally. Doing so basically turns the Almighty and Satan into Randolph and Mortimer Duke. Jesus's parable about Trading Places should tell you that's got to be wrong.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 26, 2023 07:05 PM (ppBhU)

118 Josh Kraushaar @JoshKraushaar
NBC News: "Vice President Kamala Harris' net-negative rating (-17) is the lowest for any vice president in the poll's history."

No one is surprised to hear that Kamala goes down on a lot of polls.
_______

What surprises me is that her rating keeps falling while she's not doing anything. The only cause I can think of is that, when people look at how bad Brandon is, they then think "But we can't get rid of him; Kamala is hopeless."

Posted by: Eeyore at June 26, 2023 07:05 PM (brAQZ)

119 San Franpsycho

The Biden set is tonguing an ice cream cone into a substitute breast.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 26, 2023 07:05 PM (u82oZ)

120 HHS Becerra says they are going to cut off Medicaid funds to states which won't do "gender affirming care" to children.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 26, 2023 07:00 PM (63Dwl)
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Dumbest idea evah--

end medical care for your core demographic, working poor, and try to explain its because the evil Republicans won't let hospitals turn little boys into girls with a knife.

Yeah, that'll fly.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 26, 2023 07:05 PM (1rvQN)

121 So the forty days with Satan in the wilderness, Jesus was lying about that?
Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:03 PM (p8A+W)

I'm sure the Father was in on it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2023 07:05 PM (9UlRk)

122 72 Has anyone seen Phil Collen (Def Leopard)? Dude is jacked. Very few rockers look like him in their 60's, especially with all the partying.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 26, 2023 06:55 PM (KAi1n)

Pffft. When he dies I'll send flowers for his funeral, after I take my mid-morning drugs and have my dozen pre-lunch drinks.

Posted by: Keith Richards at June 26, 2023 07:05 PM (AMIL/)

123 No one is surprised to hear that Kamala goes down on a lot of polls.
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We all know of her deep-throated commitment.

Posted by: Axeman at June 26, 2023 07:05 PM (OaZlZ)

124 . I see these men walking around in the streets, naked, and it is incomprehensible to me.
Posted by: washrivergal

Pffft!

Posted by: Joe Biden in a Shower with his Daughter at June 26, 2023 07:05 PM (EnsGU)

125 @107

>>Yeah I maxed 300 the other day but I had my guy post my cool down set of 135.

Anabolic Chicken can supply full muscle bellies to a 70 year old physique but they cannot provide the contractile potential of young muscle.

Having said that, more power to him, he looks great.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 26, 2023 07:06 PM (up/3i)

126 109 . "Satan was cast out of God's presence. I don't believe Satan has the ability to approach God unannounced."

So the forty days with Satan in the wilderness, Jesus was lying about that?
Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:03 PM (p8A+W)

Jesus wasn't exactly availing Himself of His God powers for many things.

The question here pertains more to the spiritual realm at any rate, for all we know people are functionally always directly present to each other there.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:06 PM (eYoxG)

127 > So the forty days with Satan in the wilderness, Jesus was lying about that?

Jesus in his mortal body here on Earth is different than God in His full glory.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 26, 2023 07:06 PM (R38qh)

128 "The only reason I'm running is to win and deliver on these promises. That's the only reason."
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I keep hearing he's just running because his Deep
State Owners tell him to. That's what that guy Tarzan says*.

*Maybe I have the wrong name. I know he lives in a tree.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 26, 2023 07:07 PM (brAQZ)

129 "Vice President Kamala Harris' net-negative rating (-17) is the lowest for any vice president in the poll's history."

She really *is* historic.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 26, 2023 07:07 PM (roH4R)

130 Satan is sexless, as is God.

Posted by: observer at June 26, 2023 07:07 PM (FBltX)

131 It was a very long interview and I actually watched the whole interesting thing even though I have no interest in voting for a commie like Jr.

I endured that marathon interview too. It baffles me that while he is comprehensively knowledgeable about vaccines, knowing both sides of the ledger (benefits vs maladies) he is stone cold ignorant of the benefits of fossil fuels and the inadequacy of weather based energy in a dispatchable energy world.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:07 PM (p8A+W)

132 "So the forty days with Satan in the wilderness, Jesus was lying about that?"

Mmm. Mathew 4:1. Do you think that Jesus being led by the Spirit was accidental or preordained?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 26, 2023 07:07 PM (yO13h)

133 Want a freedom boner? Check out this Lefty tweeting about TX troops shutting down the border...with video! https://tinyurl.com/4wpftrb4

Other posts discuss DeSantis speaking at the border Direct quote: "If you drop a couple of these cartel operatives, they'll stop coming."

Under President DeSantis, there would be mass murder on the border. Not "cartel operatives" but men, women, and children looking for a better life. He would be overjoyed at seeing it, because he appears to be utterly devoid of empathy.

DeSaster would try to martial law his way into outright dictatorship. Like his role models - Hitler, Mussolini, and Marcos.

colonialism, alive and well. Hispanics carry the blood of indigenous Americans.

Give him time and opportunity and he'll be firing into crowds
of peaceful protesting liberals. Berlin Wall in reverse. What a vile moron. He doesn’t value life and is very fucking dangerous.

Will someone please remove him and tfg from this earth.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 26, 2023 07:08 PM (NCgXW)

134 When got into shower sun was out and seemed nice, in middle of shower had power outage but came on again in a few minutes and it's raining cats and dogs

Posted by: Skip at June 26, 2023 07:08 PM (xhxe8)

135 I lift weights and do various isometrics.
I don't like to do them, but I don't want to turn in to a tub of goo, which is what happens if you age and don't do *something*.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 26, 2023 07:08 PM (MeG8a)

136 Having said that, more power to him, he looks great.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 26, 2023 07:06 PM (up/3i)

Better to look marvelous than to feel marvelous. ——Fernando Lamas

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2023 07:08 PM (MNhXM)

137
I read an essay recently that said Satan has sway over this world, this life on earth. The more I think about it and the more I see what is happening in the world, the more I agree.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at June 26, 2023 06:55 PM (EnsGU)

Matthew 4:8-9: "Again the devil to him (Jesus) to a very high mountain and showed him all the kings and their splendor. "All this I will give to you if you bow down and worship me."

Satan has temporary authority over this earth because of the fall in the garden. Revelation has revealed his ultimate demise, and either he knows its coming and wants to take as many with him as possible, or he's delusional enough to think he can win.

Posted by: Moki at June 26, 2023 07:08 PM (JrN/x)

138 What he's saying: "I'm ashamed of being part of this conversation," Fink said.
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"I'm ashamed to have tipped my hands so much that people know what to look for"

Posted by: Axeman at June 26, 2023 07:09 PM (OaZlZ)

139 People should pull a page out of their Trumpian apologetics and take Job seriiously but not literally. The book makes no good moral sense at all when read literally. Doing so basically turns the Almighty and Satan into Randolph and Mortimer Duke. Jesus's parable about Trading Places should tell you that's got to be wrong.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 26, 2023 07:05 PM (ppBhU)

It is pretty rare to take it as a literal conversation. The Book deals with similar topics to Ecclesiastes, the injustice of the world and how the faithful ought to handle it.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:09 PM (eYoxG)

140 Rogan asked Hotez about his personal diet and nutrition as a means of showing what a hypocrite he is.

Rules for thee, not for me.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 26, 2023 07:09 PM (RIvkX)

141 "colonialism, alive and well. Hispanics carry the blood of indigenous Americans."
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Guess what? They also carry the blood of evil white Europeans (Spanish). So which half reigns supreme?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 26, 2023 07:09 PM (BpYfr)

142 But If I was a 12 year old girl and said I was a boy, he'd prescribe all of the hormones my heart desired.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

Go Victor Victoria -- say you're a 12 y.o. girl who says she's a boy.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 26, 2023 07:09 PM (KAi1n)

143 Satan is sexless, as is God.

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o_O

(moves to the other side of the building)

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 26, 2023 07:09 PM (YUvzq)

144 Also, the whole concept of Satan is recent in historic terms.
I believe it is from "Shaitan", the opposer.

Posted by: observer at June 26, 2023 07:09 PM (FBltX)

145 knowing that i am going to get yelled at, satan is per the book of job still an important figure in the world of divine beings. you get that from the first two chapter of the book of job. people like to believe that there is a good god and a evil god.

"I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." isaiah 45:7

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2023 07:09 PM (B1FKF)

146 This has been discussed at length for the last what, six months?

Gosh, if only Trump owned property in another state. Darn the luck!
Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 26, 2023 07:05 PM (9ULwW)
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His entire estate would need to be redone, and probably ownership of properties too. It's a logistical nightmare.

He's a Florida tax resident for very good reasons, and there is literally zero chance a rational person nearing end of life voluntarily moves their tax residency to New Jersey or New York.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 26, 2023 07:09 PM (1rvQN)

147 ... he is stone cold ignorant of the benefits of fossil fuels and the inadequacy of weather based energy in a dispatchable energy world.
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Sherlock Holmes' attic or Kelly Bundy's brain! It can only hold so much,

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 26, 2023 07:10 PM (Vwz3I)

148 I do get the feeling that the GOP is more into DeSantis than he is into them....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2023 07:10 PM (9UlRk)

149 This has been discussed at length for the last what, six months?

Gosh, if only Trump owned property in another state. Darn the luck!

Why would this be any different than all the other things that get mindlessly repeated ad nauseum.

"Do you really think DeSantis won't be attacked just like Trump".

Posted by: Archimedes at June 26, 2023 07:10 PM (eOEVl)

150 My personal fave: the dude in the park who takes his mask down for a cig.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 26, 2023 07:10 PM (RIvkX)

151 "Satan has temporary authority over this earth because of the fall in the garden. Revelation has revealed his ultimate demise, and either he knows its coming and wants to take as many with him as possible, or he's delusional enough to think he can win.
Posted by: Moki at June 26, 2023 07:08 PM (JrN/x)"

Truth.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 26, 2023 07:10 PM (yO13h)

152 "This is why there is so much push back against celebrating Pride. It's not a mystery. Libertarians supported equal rights long before Biden & clan. But not for this," tweeted political commentary profile Being Libertarian.
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Bullshit. That's always what Libertarians have been about; that and hating Christianity. It was obvious when the government went after religious dissenters. Libertarians wanted no part of that fight. (The two are related.)

I know several who call themselves "recovering libertarians" for just that reason.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 26, 2023 07:11 PM (brAQZ)

153 I endured that marathon interview too. It baffles me that while he is comprehensively knowledgeable about vaccines, knowing both sides of the ledger (benefits vs maladies) he is stone cold ignorant of the benefits of fossil fuels and the inadequacy of weather based energy in a dispatchable energy world.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:07 PM (p8A+W)

Yeppers.

Also not clue one about why no one voted for McGovern.

Commie stooge.

But he does actually know about fitness and health, I believe.

Posted by: Just Lily at June 26, 2023 07:11 PM (RLLZj)

154 Why the fvck would a grown a$$ man have video taken of him sans shirt working out as a political ad? Does he style himself as another putin riding a horse shirtless?
Posted by: Mister Scott

He tried chaps and cowboy but it didn't poll as well.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 26, 2023 07:11 PM (ga8qR)

155 36
'RFK jr may be muscular looking for his age but he’s weak as shit. Weaker than shit.'

He stowed the 45# plates away from the cameras so he didn't demoralize onlookers by lifting too much.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 26, 2023 07:11 PM (roH4R)

156 Berlin Wall in reverse exactly -- the Commies' forced people to stay in; yours would be to keep people out.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 26, 2023 07:12 PM (Vwz3I)

157 "Jesus in his mortal body here on Earth is different than God in His full glory."

Or maybe the son OF God, is not the same as God the Son? (the confusion on this baffles me ... except Orwell was not discovering some new concept).

No man has seen God at any time. The only BEGOTTEN son of God has revealed Him.

"Not my will (said Jesus) but Thine be done" ... who the heck was Jesus talking to? Himself? "If there be any other way, let this cup pass from me".

I really don't get the confusion, except for spiritual blindness.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 07:12 PM (Cus5s)

158 guy who posted the RFK video said that was a drop set, down from 230

If he can bench 230 at that age, he's kicking ass.
______________

Hell yeah! Incline "sets" of 230? His max bench is probably 325 or more if he's doing incline sets of 230. Even if the 230 incline set is only 3 reps.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 26, 2023 07:12 PM (bHb2p)

159 145 knowing that i am going to get yelled at, satan is per the book of job still an important figure in the world of divine beings. you get that from the first two chapter of the book of job. people like to believe that there is a good god and a evil god.

"I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." isaiah 45:7
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2023 07:09 PM (B1FKF)

Dualism is more of a Manichaean view.

As a general rule Christians do not assert anything approaching equality, a body that is half ordered and half-disordered is a corpse. Anything approaching parity would not permit the world as it exists, physics would spontaneously fail with some regularity.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:12 PM (eYoxG)

160 He tried chaps and cowboy but it didn't poll as well.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 26, 2023 07:11 PM (ga8qR)
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Maybe the assless chaps were a bad idea...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 26, 2023 07:13 PM (BpYfr)

161 At least some gays see this train about to run off the cliff and are speaking out against Militarized Degeneracy.
_______

Taqiya. That's all that is.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 26, 2023 07:13 PM (brAQZ)

162 52 Larry Fink says he will stop using the term ESG. From now on it will be SEG . And they'll keep pushing the exact same agenda and behavior.

he needs to work an "m" in there somewhere, so it can be "smeg"

Posted by: arnold judas rimmer bsc ssc at June 26, 2023 07:13 PM (oY6Yp)

163 You have to give them credit for neutralizing the Hunter Bomb so effectively, cutting a sweetheart deal with the DOJ and still leaving open an investigation that will last forever and never result in any additional charges. Now they can say Hunter has "pled guilty" and yet still take a Fifth defense against being interviewed by Congress. Joe probably thinks this is great protection.

But it is starting to unwind. Whistleblowers are proving to be the X-factor Slow Joe didn't count on. As a Democrat, and as protection from Trump, he thought "no way a bureaucrat flips on me", but there are (it seems) a few honest men still in Washington. Maybe.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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FWIW, impeachment inquiries override criminal investigation defenses (and nat sec as well) ironically thanks to the failed twofer Trump impeachments. So Garland, Wray, etc. can be forced to provide testimony, evidence, etc. as well as witnesses not in the federal gubmint.

Both of them may face their own impeachment inquiries as well.

The House has well settled investigatory powers here--it is whether the GOP chooses to use them.

Posted by: whig at June 26, 2023 07:13 PM (7G3ff)

164 We, on the other hand, have been given the option to forgive our creator for creating us, and to accept and love Him as He loves us. To embrace our creation, however flawed, even though we never asked for it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2023 07:02 PM (9UlRk)

Hon, that is seriously backward. We don't forgive God, He forgives us. Maybe do a reread of scripture that isn't the Message or something from Bill Johnson.

Posted by: Moki at June 26, 2023 07:13 PM (JrN/x)

165 "Okay, so our planet got knocked into this position after this explosion, and then lightning hit this mud puddle, right?"

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine

Of course, when you can't explain something, you just fiat the explanation, right? Sounds even sillier than an atheist.... Being an atheist doesn't mean you're not open to becoming a theist. It does mean you might need something more than others' fervor and fiating explanations for stuff we don't yet know. A lot of stuff that we didn't know over the many millennia we've since discovered.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 26, 2023 07:14 PM (KAi1n)

166 > I really don't get the confusion, except for spiritual blindness.

I'm Mormon. I don't believe in the triune god theory.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 26, 2023 07:14 PM (R38qh)

167 Bullshit. That's always what Libertarians have been about; that and hating Christianity. It was obvious when the government went after religious dissenters. Libertarians wanted no part of that fight. (The two are related.)

I know several who call themselves "recovering libertarians" for just that reason.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 26, 2023 07:11 PM

Duuuuude....modern Libertarians, like (puff puff), really, like, support weed and shit. Whoooo!

Posted by: Weed at June 26, 2023 07:14 PM (NCgXW)

168 The House has well settled investigatory powers here--it is whether the GOP chooses to use them.
Posted by: whig at June 26, 2023 07:13 PM (7G3ff)

I think I see the problem here . . .

Posted by: Catherine at June 26, 2023 07:14 PM (ZSsrh)

169 But it is starting to unwind. Whistleblowers are proving to be the X-factor Slow Joe didn't count on. As a Democrat, and as protection from Trump, he thought "no way a bureaucrat flips on me", but there are (it seems) a few honest men still in Washington. Maybe.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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Honest? Unlikely.

More likely is they don't like the agenda of FJB's faction and see an opportunity to take that faction down a peg in furtherance of their own pet causes.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 26, 2023 07:15 PM (BpYfr)

170 80
'I believe JFK created the Fitness Council. In h.s. I had to climb a rope because of him.'

I thought that was Eisenhower.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 26, 2023 07:15 PM (roH4R)

171 157 "Jesus in his mortal body here on Earth is different than God in His full glory."

Or maybe the son OF God, is not the same as God the Son? (the confusion on this baffles me ... except Orwell was not discovering some new concept).

No man has seen God at any time. The only BEGOTTEN son of God has revealed Him.

"Not my will (said Jesus) but Thine be done" ... who the heck was Jesus talking to? Himself? "If there be any other way, let this cup pass from me".

I really don't get the confusion, except for spiritual blindness.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 07:12 PM (Cus5s)

“The Lord says to my Lord: ‘Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool’”. Parts of Isaiah too also point more directly to the Messiash being God incarnate, as He says He'll come down Himself as there is no righteous intercessor available.

Treating Jesus as other than God alters the entire narrative and relationship between man and God, including the Passion.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:15 PM (eYoxG)

172 Matthew 22:30

For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven

Posted by: observer at June 26, 2023 07:15 PM (FBltX)

173 And I don’t know anyone that does 230 in a progression set . Unless they are using a lot of
2 1/2 lb plates.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2023 07:16 PM (MNhXM)

174 I've also anyways had a hunch (based on nothing but idle gossip with Our Lord) that Satan loves the Lord more than any human who ever lived. He simply can't bend the knee. He can't recognize his own Creator as Lord. And so he is damned to estrangement and disinheritance.

The best human who ever lived is blindingly more evil than Satan.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2023 07:16 PM (9UlRk)

175 I believe JFK created the Fitness Council. In h.s. I had to climb a rope because of him.'

I thought that was Eisenhower.

Jack LaLanne.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 26, 2023 07:16 PM (eOEVl)

176 Loanshark to cops, "I am ashamed to have supported usurious interest rates, it was only in support of our long term investors." Nice try Larry

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at June 26, 2023 07:16 PM (oWBc3)

177 DeScantis has got to go. He's just noise at this point. Trump voters will never vote for him. So...bye.

Posted by: MikyN at June 26, 2023 07:17 PM (2QURD)

178 His entire estate would need to be redone, and probably ownership of properties too. It's a logistical nightmare.

--

I doubt it. Probably as easy as buying a singlewide in Georgia and getting a drivers license and power bill.

Heck, if illegals can figure it out, I'm guessing his lawyers can manage.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 26, 2023 07:17 PM (YUvzq)

179 "Lucifer knew that to be equal with God, he would have to be God, and he knew perfectly that this could not be. What he wanted was to be as God; he wished to be like God in a way not suited to his nature, such as to create things by his own power, or to achieve final beatitude without God’s help, or to have command over others in a way proper to God alone."

Saint Thomas Aquinas

Posted by: Marcus T at June 26, 2023 07:17 PM (m+sAs)

180 Treating Jesus as other than God alters the entire narrative and relationship between man and God, including the Passion.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:15 PM (eYoxG)

Treating Jesus as other than God makes the passion at best irrelevant and at worst sinful.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2023 07:17 PM (9UlRk)

181 133 colonialism, alive and well. Hispanics carry the blood of indigenous Americans.

in a bucket?

Posted by: anachronda at June 26, 2023 07:17 PM (oY6Yp)

182 re 166: according to a few episodes of 'south park' only mormons make it to heaven. saddan hussein found that out the hard way

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2023 07:17 PM (B1FKF)

183 You wanna check my shape? let’s do push-ups together here, man. Let’s run. Let’s do whatever you want to do. Let’s take an IQ test.

Posted by: Joe " vigorous" Biden at June 26, 2023 07:18 PM (fs1hN)

184 Iggy Pop was ripped. Of course it was 110 lbs of rippedness but ripped nonetheless.
Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2023 07:00 PM (MNhXM)
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You can burn a lot of calories spazzing out on stage nightly.

Plus, the drugs...

Posted by: Axeman at June 26, 2023 07:18 PM (OaZlZ)

185 "follow your heart" is one of the worst possible pieces of advice anyone can give you. Follow your heart is how you get both "stoned loser living in his parents' basement" and serial killers. Follow your heart is the kind of stupid crap you tell kids that ruins them for years.

Follow your brain. Do what you know is right and use informed decisions to live an adult, mature life. Your heart is deceitful, selfish, and stupid.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2023 07:18 PM (0hOvj)

186 "Okay, so our planet got knocked into this position after this explosion, and then lightning hit this mud puddle, right?"

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Of course, when you can't explain something, you just fiat the explanation, right?...

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Well said.

I don't think I've got enough faith to be an atheist.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 26, 2023 07:18 PM (YUvzq)

187 MikyN probably true but still not seeing if they both became one they can get past the fraud, even with all of Sundowner's crimes in the open.

Posted by: Skip at June 26, 2023 07:19 PM (xhxe8)

188 The House has well settled investigatory powers here--it is whether the GOP chooses to use them.
Posted by: whig at June 26, 2023 07:13 PM

Oh, yes...uh, let's see here...we totally support the idea in principle, but what's the point when we only control one half of one third of government, and the Senate won't vote to confirm?

I guess we can hold some hearings, get some sound bites in front of the camera...will that satisfy you rubes? We don't want to hurt Biden too much, in case Trump wins the primary.

Posted by: House Republican Leadership flipping to the Paul Ryan Obamacare playbook at June 26, 2023 07:19 PM (NCgXW)

189 Jesus in his mortal body here on Earth is different than God in His full glory.

Wow. Arianism view of the Godhead?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:19 PM (p8A+W)

190 179 "Lucifer knew that to be equal with God, he would have to be God, and he knew perfectly that this could not be. What he wanted was to be as God; he wished to be like God in a way not suited to his nature, such as to create things by his own power, or to achieve final beatitude without God’s help, or to have command over others in a way proper to God alone."

Saint Thomas Aquinas
Posted by: Marcus T at June 26, 2023 07:17 PM (m+sAs)

Which if one remembers that little incident in the Garden of Eden, is exactly what Satan tempts Eve with. To be like God, in the wrong way. There is a right way in which men are to be like God, but it sure isn't the usurpatory one.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:20 PM (eYoxG)

191 re 175: "I believe JFK created the Fitness Council. In h.s. I had to climb a rope because of him."

yeah, i flunked that test. got to see other guys hand over hand go all the way up to the gym ceiling. what can i say, i'd rather spend 112 hours on amtrak than two in a plane.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2023 07:20 PM (B1FKF)

192 @174 No. The usurper, the liar, the pretender believes only in himself. Lucifer knows the Lord, but he doesn't believe in Him and he doesn't see the story ending as it is written. He has no salvation, therefore no human, none, is beneath him. Imagine having no chance or choice?

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at June 26, 2023 07:20 PM (oWBc3)

193 189 "Jesus in his mortal body here on Earth is different than God in His full glory."

Wow. Arianism view of the Godhead?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:19 PM (p8A+W)

He's Mormon iirc.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:21 PM (eYoxG)

194 The Babylon Bee @TheBabylonBee · 3h
Pedophile Jailed For Flashing Kids At Playground Kicking Himself For Not Doing It At Pride Parade Instead
https://buff.ly/3Xo7oaN

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 26, 2023 07:21 PM (Vwz3I)

195 182 re 166: according to a few episodes of 'south park' only mormons make it to heaven. saddan hussein found that out the hard way
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2023 07:17 PM

Actually...didn't Satan pull a few strings to get Saddam into heaven? Weird way of portraying it as "the hard way".

Posted by: Movie Moron at June 26, 2023 07:21 PM (NCgXW)

196 Follow your brain. Do what you know is right and use informed decisions to live an adult, mature life. Your heart is deceitful, selfish, and stupid.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2023 07:18 PM (0hOvj)

Your gut is smarter than the two combined.... "I don't know why i don't feel like taking the normal way to work today, but I'm taking the back road."

*evening News says ten car pile up on the highway you would have been on*

That kind of thing.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2023 07:21 PM (9UlRk)

197 DeScantis has got to go. He's just noise at this point. Trump voters will never vote for him. So...bye.

Oh, well, when you put it that way...

Posted by: Archimedes at June 26, 2023 07:21 PM (eOEVl)

198 "Not my will (said Jesus) but Thine be done" ... who the heck was Jesus talking to? Himself? "If there be any other way, let this cup pass from me".

Trinity. Learn it. Love it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2023 07:21 PM (0hOvj)

199 Jack LaLanne.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 26, 2023 07:16 PM (eOEVl)

Joe Weider > Jack Lalanne

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 26, 2023 07:21 PM (R/m4+)

200 I'm a "Trump Voter". I'll vote for DeSantis in a half a heartbeat.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2023 07:22 PM (9UlRk)

201 The last survivor of the attack on Pearl Harbor passed away recently too. Soon they will be all gone and probably see no reason for staying around with the misfits running the nation...
Posted by: Mister Ghost

Not to make light of it, but what about survivors of the other installations on Oahu that were attacked that day?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 26, 2023 07:22 PM (ga8qR)

202 Follow your brain. Do what you know is right and use informed decisions to live an adult, mature life. Your heart is deceitful, selfish, and stupid.

Since I'm treating this thread like the Holy Roller version:

"The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it?" - Jeremiah 17:9

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:22 PM (p8A+W)

203 Actually...didn't Satan pull a few strings to get Saddam into heaven? Weird way of portraying it as "the hard way".
Posted by: Movie Moron at June 26, 2023 07:21 PM (NCgXW)
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For Saddam, being in Heaven was much, much worse than being in Hell hanging out with Satan and pals.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 26, 2023 07:22 PM (BpYfr)

204
'No one is surprised to hear that Kamala goes down on a lot of polls'

So cruel.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 26, 2023 07:23 PM (mE7cY)

205 192 @174 No. The usurper, the liar, the pretender believes only in himself. Lucifer knows the Lord, but he doesn't believe in Him and he doesn't see the story ending as it is written. He has no salvation, therefore no human, none, is beneath him. Imagine having no chance or choice?
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at June 26, 2023 07:20 PM (oWBc3)

Satan as well as the rest of the angels are generally considered to have had a singular choice. As opposed to man things play out in time and physical reality with the swerving back and forth.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:23 PM (eYoxG)

206 re 184: i recall reading (can't swear to it) that iggy pop showed up at an emergency room with severe abdominal pains, so they pumped his stomach.

12 ounces of semen

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2023 07:23 PM (B1FKF)

207 "Which if one remembers that little incident in the Garden of Eden, is exactly what Satan tempts Eve with. To be like God, in the wrong way. There is a right way in which men are to be like God, but it sure isn't the usurpatory one.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:20 PM (eYoxG)"

Amen. And there seems to be a lot of that these days.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 26, 2023 07:23 PM (3BWBM)

208 179 "Lucifer knew that to be equal with God, he would have to be God, and he knew perfectly that this could not be. What he wanted was to be as God; he wished to be like God in a way not suited to his nature, such as to create things by his own power, or to achieve final beatitude without God’s help, or to have command over others in a way proper to God alone."

Saint Thomas Aquinas
Posted by: Marcus T at June 26, 2023 07:17 PM (m+sAs)

Isaiah 14:13 “But you said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, And I will sit on the mount of assembly In the recesses of the north.
14:14 ‘I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’

Lucifer effectively becomes insane.

Posted by: observer at June 26, 2023 07:24 PM (FBltX)

209 133
'Give him time and opportunity and he'll be firing into crowds
of peaceful protesting liberals.'

DeSantis would give leftists exactly what they deserve? Can I vote for him twice?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 26, 2023 07:24 PM (roH4R)

210
Didn't RFKJRzeneggar do a video for Hugo Chavez years ago, standing on the bow of some tanker bringing fuel oil from Venezuela for the sadly deprived and freezing Baastiners?

A colossal piece of shit, even by Kennedy standards.

Posted by: Auspex at June 26, 2023 07:24 PM (j4U/Z)

211 > Wow. Arianism view of the Godhead?

No. I disagree with key tenets of Arianism.

I don't agree that Jesus lacks the divine nature of God the Father. I don't agree that God cannot interact with the material world. I don't believe Jesus is subordinate.

I have a question for you. Do you believe Jesus on Earth appeared as God in His full Glory?

Posted by: bonhomme at June 26, 2023 07:24 PM (R38qh)

212 Trinity. Learn it. Love it.

https://youtu.be/KQLfgaUoQCw

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:25 PM (p8A+W)

213 Your gut is smarter than the two combined.... "I don't know why i don't feel like taking the normal way to work today, but I'm taking the back road."

What we call instinct is almost 100% wisdom and subconscious learning. We have seen situations like this, we have experienced similar times and without rationally examining it, just know something.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2023 07:25 PM (0hOvj)

214 "“The Lord says to my Lord: ‘Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool’”. Parts of Isaiah too also point more directly to the Messiash being God incarnate, as He says He'll come down Himself as there is no righteous intercessor available.

Treating Jesus as other than God alters the entire narrative and relationship between man and God, including the Passion.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

The point is the only begotten son obeyed even unto death. He trusted his Father God to raise him. If Jesus did not really die, it was all kabuki theater.

"The Lord says to my Lord: ‘Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool' "

"Lord" was a known term back then, many people had lords, or even "god" was used as a lord. Was there one true God talking to an other true God? Absolutely not.

(and I don't know much of Mormonism, but if they reject the triune God, the "Orwellian" myth established in the 3rd century, good for them)

Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 07:26 PM (Cus5s)

215 Ooooo!
3000 employees. Gosh!
If they were fired tomorrow, they'd be replaced by Friday. And with happier employees.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 26, 2023 07:26 PM (e4fEA)

216 132 "So the forty days with Satan in the wilderness, Jesus was lying about that?"

Mmm. Mathew 4:1. Do you think that Jesus being led by the Spirit was accidental or preordained?
Posted by: Marcus T at June 26, 2023 07:07 PM
Pre-ordained. And when Satan tried to tempt Him, Jesus quoted scripture for the Old Testament. The Word of GOD.

Posted by: Eromero at June 26, 2023 07:26 PM (Uv0D2)

217
I have a question for you. Do you believe Jesus on Earth appeared as God in His full Glory?
Posted by: bonhomme at June 26, 2023 07:24 PM (R38qh)

If you're asking about the beatific vision, than the answer across the western sects will be near universally no.

If you're asking about whether Jesus's experience was due to voluntary or involuntary self-restraint, most would tend to assert voluntary I think.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:26 PM (eYoxG)

218 Also, the whole concept of Satan is recent in historic terms.
I believe it is from "Shaitan", the opposer.
Posted by: observer

Zoroastrians. One of the temples was losing followers and decided that the other temple's god was in fact Angra Mainyu (the destructive spirit), which became Ahriman and probably was the model for Mastema, the leader of some fallen angels in the Book of Jubilees.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 26, 2023 07:27 PM (jzzG8)

219 Why do you think there's so much anti-Christian and demonology in the whole trans movement?

Sisters of the perpetual whatever are mocking Catholics. Many drag queens on TikTok dress as demons.

It's all driven by Satan who wants to mock God.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 26, 2023 07:27 PM (mE7cY)

220 DeScantis has got to go. He's just noise at this point. Trump voters will never vote for him. So...bye.

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Trump voters will. The problem is the crossover Democrats and the blacks and hispanics that turned out in record numbers in both 2016 and 2020. I don't see them crossing the aisle for anyone else.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 26, 2023 07:27 PM (YUvzq)

221 I believe JFK created the Fitness Council. In h.s. I had to climb a rope because of him.'

I thought that was Eisenhower.

Jack LaLanne.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 26, 2023 07:16 PM

Wrong, it was Robert Preston:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFofqe26t-4

Posted by: Mister Grimm Doing Some Reaping at June 26, 2023 07:27 PM (ncXxy)

222 Also

"The devil did not sin in the very instant of his creation. When a perfect cause makes a nature, the first operation of that nature must be in line with the perfection of its cause. Hence the devil was not created in wickedness. He, like all the angels, was created in the state of sanctifying grace."

Posted by: Marcus T at June 26, 2023 07:27 PM (kDcJU)

223 I have a question for you. Do you believe Jesus on Earth appeared as God in His full Glory?

I am not that dude, but the Bible pretty clearly and repeatedly states that Jesus set aside his glory -- whatever that means, exactly -- in His ministry on earth.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2023 07:27 PM (0hOvj)

224 What we call instinct is almost 100% wisdom and subconscious learning. We have seen situations like this, we have experienced similar times and without rationally examining it, just know something.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2023 07:25 PM (0hOvj)
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Yep. It's basically the entire decision-making process speeded up a thousandfold.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 26, 2023 07:27 PM (BpYfr)

225 Not my will (said Jesus) but Thine be done" ... who the heck was Jesus talking to? Himself? "If there be any other way, let this cup pass from me".

Trinity. Learn it. Love it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2023 07:21 PM (0hOvj)

Yeah I don’t get the snark in regard to the question posed.

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2023 07:28 PM (MNhXM)

226 177 DeScantis has got to go. He's just noise at this point. Trump voters will never vote for him. So...bye.
Posted by: MikyN at June 26, 2023 07:17 PM (2QURD)

Rob s working for all the people you hate cuz he's been promised a cushy spot after his term as governor

he has no political future and what little he had, he traded away to Rove

but the guy has a family and he's gotta eat

yeah, but at his point, fuck him, he's working for the dims, making campaign spots against Trump

Posted by: REDACTED at June 26, 2023 07:28 PM (us2H3)

227 >>NBC News: "Vice President Kamala Harris' net-negative rating (-17) is the lowest for any vice president in the poll's history."

So. . . you're saying it's a historic first?!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2023 07:28 PM (avru5)

228 If you're asking about the beatific vision, than the answer across the western sects will be near universally no.

If you're asking about whether Jesus's experience was due to voluntary or involuntary self-restraint, most would tend to assert voluntary I think.

No, I wasn't asking either of those questions.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 26, 2023 07:28 PM (R38qh)

229 re 198: now compare that to what moses said to the lord when the israelites made the golden calf:

But Moses sought the favor of the Lord his God. "Lord," he said, "why should your anger burn against your people, whom you brought out of Egypt with great power and a mighty hand? Why should the Egyptians say, 'It was with evil intent that he brought them out, to kill them in the mountains and to wipe them off the face of the earth'? Turn from your fierce anger; relent and do not bring disaster on your people."

[exodus 32:11-12]

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2023 07:29 PM (B1FKF)

230 Trump voters will. The problem is the crossover Democrats and the blacks and hispanics that turned out in record numbers in both 2016 and 2020. I don't see them crossing the aisle for anyone else.
Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 26, 2023 07:27 PM (YUvzq)

Lot of Trump voters here said they would not vote for him,

Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2023 07:29 PM (MNhXM)

231 LOL ISWYDT

"No one is surprised to hear that Kamala goes down on a lot of pols"

Posted by: hob dav at June 26, 2023 07:29 PM (fO5Gq)

232 Where "I must not cross picket lines because I am pro-labor" conflicts with "oooh, my caramel half oat-millk macchiato with the special sprinkes!"
Posted by: Kindltot at June 26, 2023 06:49 PM (xhaym)

I'll find a non-union coffee shop, thank you very much. Starbucks sucks, anyway.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 26, 2023 07:30 PM (rMe6H)

233 He has no salvation, therefore no human, none, is beneath him. Imagine having no chance or choice?
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at June 26, 2023 07:20 PM (oWBc3)

That's exactly my point.

Imagine having no chance or choice?

We do. He doesn't.

We're all beneath him, for the gift we're given and to the extent we refuse it. There is no time, no before and after, there is just a creature created to eternally reject his own Father. I'm not saying to love the poor bastard for it. I'm just saying that getting hung up on Satan as an excuse for why humans suck just distracts us from why humans suck. We're created the same, but we're given this amazing mechanism of redemption. Satan hates humans far more than we deserve to hate him. Of course he's gonna try to break us and interrupt the workings of that redemption mechanism.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2023 07:30 PM (9UlRk)

234 There is a great irony about RFK hating vaccines (and this was long before Covid) and yet pumping himself with HGH and Stanozolol.

Posted by: Rbastid at June 26, 2023 07:30 PM (gzH2y)

235 "The Lord says to my Lord: ‘Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool' "

"Lord" was a known term back then, many people had lords, or even "god" was used as a lord. Was there one true God talking to an other true God? Absolutely not.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 07:26 PM (Cus5s)

That's David speaking of a conversation between the Father and the Logos. Below is the incarnation according to Isaiah, where it's fairly clear God manifests as a human intercessor. Quite obviously if Jesus was as the Prophets, the Passion would not have overturned death.

The LORD looked and was displeased
that there was no justice.
16He saw that there was no man;
He was amazed that there was no one to intercede.
So His own arm brought salvation,
and His own righteousness sustained Him.
17He put on righteousness like a breastplate,
and the helmet of salvation on His head;
He put on garments of vengeance
and wrapped Himself in a cloak of zeal.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:30 PM (eYoxG)

236 Here at The Universal Church Of The Rainbow, we believe in everything and anything is blessed by the Lord, as She is merciful and loving, like Mother Gaia.

Join us this Sunday for our nude BBQ and Bible study…off the frontage road behind the Food King.

Posted by: Honorable Rev. Karen Lippsmaker at June 26, 2023 07:30 PM (R/m4+)

237 206 re 184: i recall reading (can't swear to it) that iggy pop showed up at an emergency room with severe abdominal pains, so they pumped his stomach.

12 ounces of semen

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2023 07:23 PM (B1FKF)

Wow, that's 72 teaspoons.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 26, 2023 07:30 PM (Mzdiz)

238 I walked into a gym once and saw a lot of dumbbells. So I headed for the bar and did some 16 oz curls.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 26, 2023 07:31 PM (e4fEA)

239 237 I know this isn't the food thread.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 26, 2023 07:31 PM (Mzdiz)

240 151 "Satan has temporary authority over this earth because of the fall in the garden.
Posted by: Moki
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I would consider a revision slightly---Stan has the authority aka job to go after people and tempt them to the dark side. People have free will to accept or not doing the sin. To do that, he can cause misfortune in people's lives like Job who under the original Deuteronomy ideals was a person following the laws and thus deserved to prosper. Book of Job is an allegory to explain why bad things happen to good people. The importance is to not allow oneself to be derailed from faith even when the fruits of life are bitter.

The dialogue with the 4 Friends of Job highlighted different approaches under Judaism at the time to resolve how people following the Mosaic law could have misfortune despite following all the rules. It seems so unfair, then you get the Job-Lord dialogue which indicates that the lesser human lacks the capacity to understand the Lord's abilities and plans so Faith is required not Reason as human reasoning is inferior to that of the Lord.

Posted by: whig at June 26, 2023 07:31 PM (7G3ff)

241 Trinity. Learn it. Love it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2023 07:21 PM (0hOvj)

Yeah I don’t get the snark in regard to the question posed.
Posted by: polynikes at June 26, 2023 07:28 PM (MNhXM)

Heh, i read it more as joyful insouciance than snark.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2023 07:31 PM (9UlRk)

242 Lucifer effectively becomes insane.
Posted by: observer at June 26, 2023 07:24 PM (FBltX)

Anselm says Lucifer called God's bluff. Which wasn't a bluff. God hadn't punished anyone yet after all. Lucifer just didn't believe God would punish him.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 26, 2023 07:31 PM (BypUT)

243 > I am not that dude, but the Bible pretty clearly and repeatedly states that Jesus set aside his glory -- whatever that means, exactly -- in His ministry on earth.

Correct. And that's why Jesus could be approached by Satan to suffer temptation in the New Testament. Going back to my earlier comment RE God's conversation with Satan outlined in Job. I believe Satan cannot randomly approach God in His full Glory.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 26, 2023 07:32 PM (R38qh)

244 and Jesus was tempted in all points like as we ... but "God cannot be tempted, neither tempteth He any man". Jesus is our brother (IF we are truly Christian), God is our Father. There is no three in one God ... the trinity is not "the great mystery".

Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 07:32 PM (Cus5s)

245 I'm a "Trump Voter". I'll vote for DeSantis in a half a heartbeat.

Back at you. Anyone who says "I'll only vote for x" is a petulant child.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 26, 2023 07:32 PM (eOEVl)

246 223 "I have a question for you. Do you believe Jesus on Earth appeared as God in His full Glory?"

I am not that dude, but the Bible pretty clearly and repeatedly states that Jesus set aside his glory -- whatever that means, exactly -- in His ministry on earth.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2023 07:27 PM (0hOvj)

Generally held to distinguish the First and Second Comings. As the OT prophecies speak of the Messiah coming both in humility and glory, which seems contradictory. The longstanding interpretation by Christians has therefore been that both will occur.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:32 PM (eYoxG)

247 I believe JFK created the Fitness Council. In h.s. I had to climb a rope because of him.'

I thought that was Eisenhower.

Jack LaLanne.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 26, 2023 07:16 PM

Wrong, it was Robert Preston:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFofqe26t-4
Posted by: Mister Grimm Doing Some Reaping at June 26, 2023 07:27 PM (ncXxy)

It was me FAT !

Posted by: Joe Pushups Biden at June 26, 2023 07:32 PM (NtVYv)

248 The point is the only begotten son obeyed even unto death. He trusted his Father God to raise him. If Jesus did not really die, it was all kabuki theater.

its important to remember that Jesus had two natures at the same time. He is fully God and fully man, completely and utterly both, lacking only sin to be identical to us.

This is why salvation works: He was our representative just like Adam was, but where Adam fell and failed, Jesus was trustworthy and faithful. In Adam, our representative, everyone fell into sin -- he did the same as we would have, in our place. Jesus, our representative, lived a perfect life and died the death our sins require as punishment, in our place.

Only a human being could be our representative. Only God could be perfect. Hence, the incarnation.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2023 07:33 PM (0hOvj)

249 Waiting for the Filioque dispute to raise its head.

Any Orthodox in here? I'm done with the Lutherans and was going to check out the local Greek Orthodox church.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 26, 2023 07:33 PM (bHb2p)

250 >>Lot of Trump voters here said they would not vote for him,

So what. It's campaign season and people say shit.

I remember back in 2016 some said they would vote for Hillary instead of Trump. They voted for Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 26, 2023 07:33 PM (ZLI7S)

251 Isn't the Book of Job still a mystery as to time of composition and source?

It was last I was aware of.

Absolutely remarkable book obviously.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 26, 2023 07:33 PM (BypUT)

252
So. . . you're saying it's a historic first?!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2023 07:28 PM (avru5)

++++
Historic First!
Making lemonade out of lemons. She should use that as a campaign bumper sticker. Just don't read the fine print.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 26, 2023 07:33 PM (lxNsC)

253 Well.
Seems Pride has brought out the truth this year, huh?
Satan. ". . . we're coming for your kids" chant.
"Drag Kids Are Sexy" t-shirt.

ALRIGHTY!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2023 07:33 PM (avru5)

254 235 "The Lord says to my Lord: ‘Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool' "
"Lord" was a known term back then, many people had lords, or even "god" was used as a lord. Was there one true God talking to an other true God? Absolutely not.
Posted by: illiniwek
---------------
Judaism at the time did not speak of the 'true name' of the Lord so used euphemisms which we have translated over the years to Lord in religious writings. You see something similar with the Son of Man in some places versus the Son of G_d.

Posted by: whig at June 26, 2023 07:34 PM (7G3ff)

255 Courtesy of SCTV Words To Live By... witches and warlocks views:
https://tinyurl.com/5kc5jjd2
2:38 minutes

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 26, 2023 07:34 PM (Vwz3I)

256 I noticed RFK jr didn't integrate swimming in his routine

I guess it's true that the Kennedy's have black blood in them

Posted by: REDACTED at June 26, 2023 07:34 PM (us2H3)

257 Lot of Trump voters here said they would not vote for him,

Posted by: polynikes

--

Oh, I'm sure there will be some, the same way people like Ace will never vote for Trump.

But that doesn't change the fact that Democrats, Hispanics, and Blacks aren't going to bother with anyone except Trump. Maybe working class stiffs who saw their vote stolen in 2020, too, and then the (R)s do absolutely nothing to try and resolve it.

Well, nothing except give medals to D.C. cops after the J6 setup.

I can't blame anyone for becoming disillusioned. That was then entire point of the steal.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 26, 2023 07:34 PM (YUvzq)

258 I believe JFK created the Fitness Council. In h.s. I had to climb a rope because of him.'

In third grade I went up that thing like a monkey, by high school it was much slower.

My strength to weight ratio had dropped

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 26, 2023 07:34 PM (NtVYv)

259 Any Orthodox in here? I'm done with the Lutherans and was going to check out the local Greek Orthodox church.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

ONT has a nic of LenNeal that periodically discusses it.

Posted by: whig at June 26, 2023 07:34 PM (7G3ff)

260 HHS Becerra says they are going to cut off Medicaid funds to states which won't do "gender affirming care" to children.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 26, 2023 07:00 PM (63Dwl)

Fine. Let those States stop collecting any taxes on behalf of the Fed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 26, 2023 07:34 PM (rMe6H)

261 GAINZZZZ? Theology? Could the final resolution of longbow vs. crossbow, or 9mm vs. .45 ACP be at hand?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 26, 2023 07:35 PM (a3Q+t)

262 244 and Jesus was tempted in all points like as we ... but "God cannot be tempted, neither tempteth He any man". Jesus is our brother (IF we are truly Christian), God is our Father. There is no three in one God ... the trinity is not "the great mystery".
Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 07:32 PM (Cus5s)

You yet to really rebut the prior, but here's another for you. It is written God is love.

Absent other persons, which a view that the Father existed alone in the beginning as opposed to Christ being eternally begotten, how can love of that sort exist? There is at most self-love, which is different from the divine love.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:35 PM (eYoxG)

263 I remember back in 2016 some said they would vote for Hillary instead of Trump. They voted for Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 26, 2023 07:33 PM (ZLI7S)

Honestly, i think they did vote for Hillary. But it didn't matter. And they won't again. And it won't matter again.

It was a surprisingly large number of GOP voters.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 26, 2023 07:36 PM (BypUT)

264 I'll find a non-union coffee shop, thank you very much. Starbucks sucks, anyway.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 26, 2023 07:30 PM (rMe6H)

My Brevelle coffee maker, while pricy, paid for itself in less than a year. One cuppa day and it's fantastic! Better than anything Starbucks ever made.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 26, 2023 07:36 PM (e4fEA)

265 enchmark of gainzz, 7/7/22 to now, is I have lost 35 pounds.

Lightest I've been in 34 years. With more room to lose.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 26, 2023 07:02 PM (u82oZ)

that does not look right; are you ok ?

Posted by: The Paolo at June 26, 2023 07:36 PM (V13WU)

266 >>> 250 >>Lot of Trump voters here said they would not vote for him,

So what. It's campaign season and people say shit.

I remember back in 2016 some said they would vote for Hillary instead of Trump. They voted for Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 26, 2023 07:33 PM (ZLI7S)

I would vote for OrangeManBad or DeathSantis.
I would not vote for Jeb! or Son of Mailman or Krispy Kreme or Race Bannon... *definitely* not Boneless Pork Rectum...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 26, 2023 07:36 PM (llON8)

267 I never got elected to nothing.

Posted by: Vic Tanny at June 26, 2023 07:36 PM (Nn3xT)

268 "Quite obviously if Jesus was as the Prophets, the Passion would not have overturned death."

Jesus was the only begotten son, NOT as the prophets, Jesus was the one the prophets foretold would come.

What is the Greek word for this "passion" of which you speak?

Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 07:36 PM (Cus5s)

269 off lascivious sock!

Posted by: runner at June 26, 2023 07:36 PM (V13WU)

270 Not my will (said Jesus) but Thine be done" ... who the heck was Jesus talking to? Himself? "If there be any other way, let this cup pass from me".

The correct view of the Trinity views the incarnate Christ as 100% human and 100% God. In Genesis, the plural "Let Us..." create the entire universe. Who uttered "Let Us"? Does it matter? The world is full of analogs to help us understand the Godhead. The Father/Son/Paraclete doesn't hold to a single analogy but is put in terms that finite minds can grasp elements of it.

The error in Modalism, Partialism and other heresies result from failing to be able to take on faith the complexities that make them equal in majesty and degenerate the complexity into absurd and simple analogs.

Jesus praying to the Father is a way for us idiots to grasp the connectedness and unity in purpose while providing the externalities necessary for us to understand salvation.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:37 PM (p8A+W)

271 Anselm says Lucifer called God's bluff. Which wasn't a bluff. God hadn't punished anyone yet after all. Lucifer just didn't believe God would punish him.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 26, 2023 07:31 PM (BypUT)

The test run for humanity.

Create a being that will love you without being forced tor coerced to love you.

It's the entire reason humanity and the created universe exists.

(Maybe.)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2023 07:37 PM (9UlRk)

272 CAFE IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS

Posted by: Skip at June 26, 2023 07:37 PM (xhxe8)

273 *definitely* not Boneless Pork Rectum...

I feel like I should know who this is, but I don't.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 26, 2023 07:37 PM (eOEVl)

274 >>HHS Becerra says they are going to cut off Medicaid funds to states which won't do "gender affirming care" to children.

AYFKM?

WHY is it so important to do the things to kids they swore 6 mos. ago was absolutely not happening?!?!?!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2023 07:37 PM (avru5)

275 *definitely* not Boneless Pork Rectum...

--

LOVE IS LOVE, H8R!

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 26, 2023 07:38 PM (YUvzq)

276 >>> 273 *definitely* not Boneless Pork Rectum...

I feel like I should know who this is, but I don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 26, 2023 07:37 PM (eOEVl)

aka Pierre Delecto, aka Rombley

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 26, 2023 07:38 PM (llON8)

277 The test run for humanity.

Create a being that will love you without being forced tor coerced to love you.

It's the entire reason humanity and the created universe exists.

(Maybe.)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2023 07:37 PM (9UlRk)

It's complicated, ok?!?!?!

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 26, 2023 07:38 PM (BypUT)

278 256 I noticed RFK jr didn't integrate swimming in his routine

I just started integrating swimming. I can run for miles, lift weights well and do most gymnastic moves well. Swimming kicks my ass.

Posted by: observer at June 26, 2023 07:38 PM (FBltX)

279 268 "Quite obviously if Jesus was as the Prophets, the Passion would not have overturned death."

Jesus was the only begotten son, NOT as the prophets, Jesus was the one the prophets foretold would come.

What is the Greek word for this "passion" of which you speak?
Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 07:36 PM (Cus5s)

The Passion refers to Jesus's death on the cross and conquest of death(and more events around it generally). Jesus being merely another Prophet renders the series of events rather pointless.

Can the Father have been the Father without his eternally begotten Son? What was He before He was the Father?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:38 PM (eYoxG)

280 In more Woke Fake Capitalism News: Starbucks' union protested at various franchise locations, alleging that their precious "pride" Shame signage had been taken down.

Response: One of Biden's nieces is firmly planted in Starbuck's management. Take the complaints directly to Joe. Why not? He likes to mouth off about being pro union. Let's see him go after big businesses and billionaires like he's been promising for years.

Posted by: L - Practice made perfect & speeds up security clearances at June 26, 2023 07:39 PM (GshMh)

281 >>I would vote for OrangeManBad or DeathSantis.
I would not vote for Jeb! or Son of Mailman or Krispy Kreme or Race Bannon... *definitely* not Boneless Pork Rectum...

Pretty much where I am. Unless something changes this might be a moot point. It's really not a race right now.

But if DeSantis does pull a huge comeback and take the nomination I'll vote for him. Would rather vote Trump but DeSantis is the only acceptable alternative.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 26, 2023 07:39 PM (ZLI7S)

282 "Quite obviously if Jesus was as the Prophets, the Passion would not have overturned death."

Only an infinite being can take on the infinite offense of man's sin.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:39 PM (p8A+W)

283 You yet to really rebut the prior, but here's another for you. It is written God is love.

Absent other persons, which a view that the Father existed alone in the beginning as opposed to Christ being eternally begotten, how can love of that sort exist? There is at most self-love, which is different from the divine love.

I don't follow this argument at all. God = love therefore any other being cannot equal love? Any other being would only be selfish?

Posted by: bonhomme at June 26, 2023 07:39 PM (R38qh)

284 re 251: ezekiel 14:14 writing about the sinfulness of the israelites at his time:

"And if these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, shall be in it: they shall deliver their own souls by their justice, saith the Lord of hosts."

your copy of the bible might word it a bit differently, but job was apparently meant to be taken as a real person. some versions may say 'righteousness' instead of justice.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2023 07:39 PM (B1FKF)

285 263 I remember back in 2016 some said they would vote for Hillary instead of Trump. They voted for Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 26, 2023 07:33 PM (ZLI7S)

Honestly, i think they did vote for Hillary. But it didn't matter. And they won't again. And it won't matter again.

It was a surprisingly large number of GOP voters.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 26, 2023 07:36 PM (BypUT)

Robert Kagan endorsed, donated to and voted for Cankles

a lifelong republican

and just happens to be Tori's hubs and Freddy's bro

Tori was Dick Cheney's top foreign affairs advisor

she brought us Iraq and Afghanistan and now Ukraine

are the pieces starting to fit together ?

Posted by: REDACTED at June 26, 2023 07:40 PM (us2H3)

286 184: i recall reading (can't swear to it) that iggy pop showed up at an emergency room with severe abdominal pains, so they pumped his stomach.

12 ounces of semen

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2023 07:23 PM (B1FKF)

I recall the same rumor being spread about Rod Stewart back in the 70s. I doubt both rumors. IANAD, but I don't think stomach pumping is the go-to treatment for stomach pain.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 26, 2023 07:40 PM (OX9vb)

287 >>> 274 >>HHS Becerra says they are going to cut off Medicaid funds to states which won't do "gender affirming care" to children.

AYFKM?

WHY is it so important to do the things to kids they swore 6 mos. ago was absolutely not happening?!?!?!
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2023 07:37 PM (avru5)

It occurs to me that many of the 'exempt' (not sure if that's the right legal term or concept or whatever) groups such as MediShare may gain new members if this happens. Of course feralgov would have a hissy fit over that...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 26, 2023 07:40 PM (llON8)

288 283 "You yet to really rebut the prior, but here's another for you. It is written God is love.

Absent other persons, which a view that the Father existed alone in the beginning as opposed to Christ being eternally begotten, how can love of that sort exist? There is at most self-love, which is different from the divine love."

I don't follow this argument at all. God = love therefore any other being cannot equal love? Any other being would only be selfish?
Posted by: bonhomme at June 26, 2023 07:39 PM (R38qh)

In the beginning, you might assert there was only one person. Now God is agape, divine love. There is literally nothing else to love at that point. Is self-love equivalent to divine love? Or were there really other persons of the same essence as a logical necessity for these things to hold true?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:41 PM (eYoxG)

289 265 enchmark of gainzz, 7/7/22 to now, is I have lost 35 pounds.

Lightest I've been in 34 years. With more room to lose.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 26, 2023 07:02 PM (u82oZ)

Outstanding! Salty Dog. Fuk yes!! I'll bet you feel a little better.

Posted by: observer at June 26, 2023 07:42 PM (FBltX)

290 re 276: oh i remember that from one sunday night years ago. also that ad for rolled pork, suitable for institutions and prisons.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2023 07:42 PM (B1FKF)

291 284 re 251: ezekiel 14:14 writing about the sinfulness of the israelites at his time:

"And if these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, shall be in it: they shall deliver their own souls by their justice, saith the Lord of hosts."

your copy of the bible might word it a bit differently, but job was apparently meant to be taken as a real person. some versions may say 'righteousness' instead of justice.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2023 07:39 PM (B1FKF)

Job may more generally have been held to be a real person, the conversation between God and Satan is more often thought to be allegorical.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:42 PM (eYoxG)

292 I just started integrating swimming. I can run for miles, lift weights well and do most gymnastic moves well. Swimming kicks my ass.

Right now, the lake out back is 91F on the layer of water I swim in. Go down several feet and its significantly cooler.

Probably going to swim a mile or so tonight anyway - at least once the wind dies down and the surface looks like glass.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:42 PM (p8A+W)

293 Posted by: MikyN at June 26, 2023 07:17 PM (2QURD)

Another fiendishly clever disguise for MikeN, glowie.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 26, 2023 07:42 PM (rMe6H)

294 "You see something similar with the Son of Man in some places versus the Son of G_d."

there are many different names for God, usually for different aspects of His nature ... But I never got the "G_d" spelling for God, as if that gives some special recognition that we don't understand the full nature of God.

(OK, maybe that is what it means, but still seems silly to me).

Son of God means Jesus came FROM God, not that he IS God. 51 times (iirc) Bible says son of God. Not once does Bible say God the Son (trinity dogma introduced in the third century cancel culture environment)

Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 07:43 PM (Cus5s)

295 Job may more generally have been held to be a real person, the conversation between God and Satan is more often thought to be allegorical.

Why does it need to be allegorical? Seriously.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:43 PM (p8A+W)

296 "Bearclaw" Vindman is pimping for Adam "Pencil Neck" Schiff. I'm thinking not just "no", but "Hades cubed no".

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 26, 2023 07:44 PM (a3Q+t)

297 re 285: who is tori? my first thought was tori spelling but that couldn't be right.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2023 07:45 PM (B1FKF)

298 The book of Job is a parable, as is much of the Bible.

Posted by: observer at June 26, 2023 07:45 PM (FBltX)

299 79 RIP to my neighbor who just passed away.
He was a D-Day veteran.
https://tinyurl.com/DrKerner
Posted by: scottst

What a long, valiant productive life! Good of you to post, scottst. May he RIP.

Posted by: L - Practice made perfect & speeds up security clearances at June 26, 2023 07:46 PM (GshMh)

300 there are many different names for God, usually for different aspects of His nature ... But I never got the "G_d" spelling for God, as if that gives some special recognition that we don't understand the full nature of God.

(OK, maybe that is what it means, but still seems silly to me).

It has to do with the Hebrew tetragrammaton YHWH and the lack of vowels as we would expect in Western languages. People appear more holy if they drop the vowels.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:46 PM (p8A+W)

301 295 "Job may more generally have been held to be a real person, the conversation between God and Satan is more often thought to be allegorical."

Why does it need to be allegorical? Seriously.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:43 PM (p8A+W)

It doesn't have to be. There are various reasons people argue for one or the other.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:46 PM (eYoxG)

302
Selling out the USA to Chinese interests may mean something if Trump can figure out how to out-ballot the Marxists by Nov 2024.

If Trump can figure the Ballot thingy out then Larry Fink should get a fair trial before he leaves town.

Posted by: Voter theater. at June 26, 2023 07:46 PM (DGcmP)

303 café open

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 26, 2023 07:46 PM (Vwz3I)

304 re 294: jewish practice. you don't want to throw out a newspaper that spells the name out.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 26, 2023 07:46 PM (B1FKF)

305 I endured that marathon interview too. It baffles me that while he is comprehensively knowledgeable about vaccines, knowing both sides of the ledger (benefits vs maladies) he is stone cold ignorant of the benefits of fossil fuels and the inadequacy of weather based energy in a dispatchable energy world.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:07 PM (p8A+W)

Few people ask about the fundamental concepts of their beliefs, and Kennedy is a Greenie through and through.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 26, 2023 07:47 PM (xhaym)

306 Son of God means Jesus came FROM God, not that he IS God. 51 times (iirc) Bible says son of God. Not once does Bible say God the Son (trinity dogma introduced in the third century cancel culture environment)
Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 07:43 PM (Cus5s)

Book of John is more transparent about it. The Trinity is received from the Apostles and reinforced pretty extensively by the Church Fathers. Christ is the Word (or Logos)

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. 4In Him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it."

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:47 PM (eYoxG)

307 RFK jr--know we are supposed to not like him--for policy reasons however from afar RFK sure does not look like your typical crazy as fuck, America hating Marxist-Dem.

Posted by: Voter theater. at June 26, 2023 07:49 PM (DGcmP)

308 and after studying a little Hebrew and Aramaic, and trying to discern thangs ... imo God spoke to the people in terms they would comprehend. I don't believe Methuselah lived to ~930 years, but it worked with what God had to tell the people that believed so many pagan thangs.

So we must read scripture in that light ... much is "allegorical". as I now see it, after "wasting" over a decade" of my life. heh

Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 07:51 PM (Cus5s)

309 It'd be inaccurate to think of the Trinity as a pantheon of sorts. They are of one essence in three persons. The Word is literally the Word of God and also God, the love between the Son and the Father (ie the Holy Spirit) is also God. It makes more sense if you don't think of God as finite.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:51 PM (eYoxG)

310 The book of Job is a parable, as is much of the Bible.

I think that by claiming the Bible is all made up stuff makes it more conscionable to ignore the parts that are disagreeable.

Since God created everything ex nihilo and ordains all things, I go the opposite direction. What people call parables, or "white lies" that are fictions treated as truths,

I have no problem accepting that our LORD ordained and knew of these events or parables happened somewhere in reality.

The Bible is full of types and the miraculous, so why would parables have to be fiction? And if they are fiction what basis are they to be taken as instructional?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:51 PM (p8A+W)

311 Bullshit. That's always what Libertarians have been about; that and hating Christianity. It was obvious when the government went after religious dissenters. Libertarians wanted no part of that fight. (The two are related.)

I know several who call themselves "recovering libertarians" for just that reason.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 26, 2023 07:11 PM (brAQZ)

To quote a current Libertarian pundit: "If only there were two types of libertarians"

I never understood the radical Catholic's hatred of Freemasonry, and I have never understood the KKK's hate of Catholics, and now I find myself puzzled by your stance. However, to quote a current poster: "Few people ask about the fundamental concepts of their beliefs"

Posted by: Kindltot at June 26, 2023 07:51 PM (xhaym)

312 in a bucket?
Posted by: anachronda at June 26, 2023 07:17 PM (oY6Yp)

Santeria is a growing faith in some sectors.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 26, 2023 07:54 PM (xhaym)

313 ""In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. 4In Him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it."
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

that is rhetorical fluff ... the Colossians verse about "with me from the beginning" or some such is closer to "proving" Jesus IS his own Father. ... but it is still not definitive. Most Jews (afaik) do not believe the coming Messiah is God, but rather a man. (because they read the OT)

Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 07:55 PM (Cus5s)

314 I don't believe Methuselah lived to ~930 years,

On what basis and authority do you claim that the age of Methuselah is a lie?

I submit that you consider genetic entropy in your age calculations. Since Adam & Eve were created as "very good", the "dying you shall die" of the curse may simply be the institutionalization of creeping genetic mutations such where living for centuries was common until a build up of mutations stunted human life.

Think of it as a human race time-bomb. There will be a generation that is too corrupted to reproduce and survive.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:55 PM (p8A+W)

315 But if DeSantis does pull a huge comeback and take the nomination I'll vote for him. Would rather vote Trump but DeSantis is the only acceptable alternative.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 26, 2023 07:39 PM (ZLI7S)

Realizing that the Marxists will indict Trump as many times as it takes to finally hurt or destroy him, my back up vote is for RDS. Just wish RDS was less connected to the scum of the GOPe earth but it is what is.

Posted by: Voter theater. at June 26, 2023 07:57 PM (DGcmP)

316 Book of John is more transparent about it. The Trinity is received from the Apostles and reinforced pretty extensively by the Church Fathers. Christ is the Word (or Logos)

Jesus also claimed to be The I AM. Which is what prompted the Jews to murder him for claiming to be God.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:58 PM (p8A+W)

317 313 ""In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. 4In Him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it."
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

that is rhetorical fluff ... the Colossians verse about "with me from the beginning" or some such is closer to "proving" Jesus IS his own Father. ... but it is still not definitive. Most Jews (afaik) do not believe the coming Messiah is God, but rather a man. (because they read the OT)
Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 07:55 PM (Cus5s)

It says explicitly the Word was God and that the Word was in the beginning.

Jesus is not the Father, no Trinitarian asserts the Son is the Father or that the Father is the Son. We're not asserting either that the Trinity are aspects or that they are one person. They are of the same essence in three persons.

I quoted Isaiah to you before where it identifies the Messiah as the Incarnation. The Church Fathers have their own argumentations if you care to go read them.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 07:59 PM (eYoxG)

318 316 "Book of John is more transparent about it. The Trinity is received from the Apostles and reinforced pretty extensively by the Church Fathers. Christ is the Word (or Logos)"

Jesus also claimed to be The I AM. Which is what prompted the Jews to murder him for claiming to be God.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:58 PM (p8A+W)

Yeah that's also very explicit.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 08:00 PM (eYoxG)

319 Step 1: Pray. Keep it simple. Don't go all out with every wish and hope and demand you have stored up. Just say Hello, a slow non-rote Pater Noster maybe, if you want.
Step 2: Shut up and listen.

Don't even try worrying about exegesis until you've done that for a good couple years.

*Then*, once you've had a few nice conversations and it's not awkward or weird anymore, get yourself a good interlinear new testament and start studying a bit of koine Greek.

I can't say that's the only road to travel, but for me it seemed to round off a lot of the angst and confusion and alienation from growing up Church-o-phobic, and the combination of a developing relationship with a long lost Father and a fun field of study to boot is its own motivation.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2023 08:01 PM (9UlRk)

320 ""Quite obviously if Jesus was as the Prophets, the Passion would not have overturned death."

Only an infinite being can take on the infinite offense of man's sin." Posted by: Reuben Hick

so all those lambs were wasted? The lamb of God ... not an infinite being. Satan could tempt Jesus because Jesus could have ACCEPTED Satan's offer. Otherwise (if Jesus was God, who cannot be tempted) there was no temptation offered.

seems so obvious, but those forced to recite the Nicene Creed every week just can't see it, spiritual blindness.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 08:04 PM (Cus5s)

321 Jesus also claimed to be The I AM. Which is what prompted the Jews to murder him for claiming to be God.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 07:58 PM (p8A+W)
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Ciaphas tore the robes that should not be torn when Jesus claimed to "ride the clouds".

Posted by: Axeman at June 26, 2023 08:05 PM (OaZlZ)

322 320 ""Quite obviously if Jesus was as the Prophets, the Passion would not have overturned death."

Only an infinite being can take on the infinite offense of man's sin." Posted by: Reuben Hick

so all those lambs were wasted? The lamb of God ... not an infinite being. Satan could tempt Jesus because Jesus could have ACCEPTED Satan's offer. Otherwise (if Jesus was God, who cannot be tempted) there was no temptation offered.

seems so obvious, but those forced to recite the Nicene Creed every week just can't see it, spiritual blindness.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 08:04 PM (Cus5s)

The animal sacrifice lambs are gestures of repentance. They don't literally obviate sin, which the OT is very clear on. Sin offerings aren't magic, they're material apologies. Material apologies have personal development value to human beings as we are material as well as spiritual.

Satan is not omniscient.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 08:08 PM (eYoxG)

323 "Jesus is not the Father, no Trinitarian asserts the Son is the Father or that the Father is the Son. We're not asserting either that the Trinity are aspects or that they are one person. They are of the same essence in three persons."

right, God in three persons, blessed Trinity. I sang that song in the day ... it is a three God trinity which is not a belief in One God. It is the African merger of paganism and Christianity ... which is ... paganism.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2023 08:10 PM (Cus5s)

324 Thanks y'all for this engaging Trinity discussion. The fact that we kept it civil is beyond belief considering the diversity of denomination and faith traditions.

It is WAY more edifying than worrying about pedos, traitors and freaks.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 08:11 PM (p8A+W)

325 God in three persons, blessed Trinity. I sang that song in the day ... it is a three God trinity which is not a belief in One God.

Nno, it is not three gods. It is one God. One God in three persons. Three offices. One God.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2023 08:14 PM (0hOvj)

326 so all those lambs were wasted?

"For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins." (Hebrews 10:4)

Wasted is sort of a loaded word here. If you mean not efficacious for salvation, then you are correct.

"And he shall do with the bull as he did with the bull as a sin offering; thus he shall do with it. So the priest shall make atonement for them, and it shall be forgiven them. " (Leviticus 4:20)

Seems like it handles, albeit temporarily, a sin problem. But as God killed the lamb for Adam & Eve's sake, there was still the promise of a Savior. If the sacrificed animal, by God's own hand was not sufficient, then clearly any number of animals offered through priests would also fall short.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 08:16 PM (p8A+W)

327 Nno, it is not three gods. It is one God. One God in three persons. Three offices. One God.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2023 08:14 PM (0hOvj)
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3 sauces combined make one sauce.

Posted by: Axeman at June 26, 2023 08:17 PM (OaZlZ)

328 But if DeSantis does pull a huge comeback and take the nomination I'll vote for him. Would rather vote Trump but DeSantis is the only acceptable alternative.
Posted by: JackStraw

DeSantis is better than any on Progs on the DemCong side of the ticket and at least our descent into shithole will continue but at a slower rate.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 26, 2023 08:18 PM (ga8qR)

329 The lamb of God ... not an infinite being.

Only God can take on the Holy Wrath of God. Only God can serve as a sacrifice powerful enough to satiate God's Justice that maintains His perfect Holiness.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 08:20 PM (p8A+W)

330 Of course the Trinity is weird and counterintuitive. One, but really Three, but mostly One, but also Three...

Look at the design of the universe the Lord had to make just for humans to exist in and have their own will and love Him of their own accord without immediately being damned for eternity on arrival. It's a convoluted, beautiful, goofy ass mess that we're only just barely scratching the surface of. Why would the Godhead Itself be otherwise?

Maybe the problem is just that we're all too wedded to this concept of counting? As if God were an apple or an orange.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2023 08:20 PM (9UlRk)

331 DeSantis is better than any on Progs on the DemCong side of the ticket and at least our descent into shithole will continue but at a slower rate.

Pretending that there is a path to 270, do you think a castrated Executive will serve as any drag on the momentum of the Deep State/Regulatory Branch of the Fe'ral government?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 26, 2023 08:21 PM (p8A+W)

332 Another point regarding Satan being blindsided, Jesus's death on the Cross was supposed to be Satan's victory over the Messiah in his mind, not his defeat.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 08:21 PM (eYoxG)

333 Another point regarding Satan being blindsided, Jesus's death on the Cross was supposed to be Satan's victory over the Messiah in his mind, not his defeat.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 26, 2023 08:21 PM (eYoxG)

"Ha ha, your vaunted hoo-mans rejected your Son and murdered him! For less than a year's wages! Hahahaha---- wait, what? Awww, dammit."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2023 08:24 PM (9UlRk)

334 Why the fvck would a grown a$$ man have video taken of him sans shirt working out as a political ad? Does he style himself as another putin riding a horse shirtless?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 26, 2023 06:40 PM

Because he knows a lot of suburban AWFLs will say, "Ohhhh, what a silver fox! He's got my vote!"

Posted by: Bert G at June 26, 2023 08:25 PM (VARTN)

335 Pretending that there is a path to 270, do you think a castrated Executive will serve as any drag on the momentum of the Deep State/Regulatory Branch of the Fe'ral government?
Posted by: Reuben Hick Pretending that there is a path to 270

Unless he has his own personnal hit team composed entirely of deputized 75th Ranger Regiment with full logistics tail... merely slow the descent.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 26, 2023 08:26 PM (ga8qR)

336 I don't know of any lambs slain at the foundation of the world.

Posted by: Axeman at June 26, 2023 08:27 PM (OaZlZ)

337 336 I don't know of any lambs slain at the foundation of the world.
Posted by: Axeman at June 26, 2023 08:27 PM (OaZlZ)

It's far too hot down there for any ceremonies. And also solid iron. But mostly the heat.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 26, 2023 08:28 PM (9UlRk)

338 After watching RFK Jr. actually perform on television and in your video, I gotta tell ya, he ain't that impressive. I suspect implants & plastic surgery are responsible for the look; typical political hack.

Posted by: timactual at June 26, 2023 08:44 PM (Cmxuw)

339 "I'm not trying to get my name out there," DeSantis continued. "I don't want to get some contributorship with one of these media outlets. I don't care about any of that. We're running to win and deliver”

( what? Pizza delivery?)

DeSantis doesn’t have to worry about being asked to be VP

He isn’t going to win amd he’s a lying traitor, President Trump would wash the floor with him

Posted by: Gonzotx at June 26, 2023 09:58 PM (MwHgU)

340 HHS Becerra says they are going to cut off Medicaid funds to states which won't do "gender affirming care" to children.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 26, 2023 07:00 PM (63Dwl)
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I'd love it if they would. But legally can't even think about it. More bluster. The left is losing. And while I think RDS is a definite underdog against DJT, he sure seems to be good at beating his opponents. He has Fink backpedaling now. Not that I think he is talking true, and he has the mother of all real estate losses over the horizon to deal with. But we are winning the language wars a bit these days.

Posted by: Black JEM at June 26, 2023 10:01 PM (UVyKP)

341 When the president of the United States says “I sold a lot of state secrets,” and the press’s reaction is “Oh, don’t worry, that’s just the dementia talking”…

Posted by: Caiwyn at June 26, 2023 10:02 PM (JFJ0Q)

342 Desantis pulled $2B from Floridas retirement fund..and left another $13B in it.

It’s almost as if BlackRock is trying to help Desantis with their false narrative of it hurting them.

Gee, color me shocked. The neocon globalist establishment wants either Biden or Desantis..either one will serve their purposes.

Posted by: Bret at June 27, 2023 12:28 AM (3dIrk)

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