Is There a Coup Unfolding in Russia?

Are the Wagner Group mercenaries that Putin has used to wage the war in Ukraine attempting an armed coup against Putin?

I don't know. There's so much propaganda out of Russia and Ukraine I try to avoid writing about it at all.

But this could be important, so, on the off-chance this is real...

The Wagner Group is a private army -- mercenaries -- that Putin uses to fight the war in Ukraine. I assume he employs mercenaries to avoid having to draft more Russian boys, which would erode his standing with the public.

And allegedly, the founder of the group has turned a column of his troops towards Russia.

Disclose.tv
@disclosetv
JUST IN - Russia's National Anti-Terrorism Committee initiates a criminal case against Wagner group founder Prigozhin over "incitement to an armed rebellion" -- TASS

NOELREPORTS
@NOELreports
Russian channel DONTSTOPWAR reports that a 50km long Wagner-column has crossed the Novoshakhtinskaya border checkpoint into Russia reportedly heading for Novocherkassk (towards Rostov-on-Don).
The column itself has not yet been visually confirmed.

Supposedly, the head of the Wagner Group is accusing Russia of... bombing the Wagner mercenaries fighting for Russia?

The chief of the Wagner mercenary group on Friday accused Russia of killing a "huge number" of its forces in strikes and vowed to retaliate, ratcheting up tensions between Moscow and the private military company.
Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin, 62, whose men have bolstered Russia's offensive in Ukraine, has ramped up his verbal attacks against Moscow in recent weeks, including questioning the very need for the military operation.
Once believed to be a close ally of President Vladimir Putin, Prigozhin is increasingly seen as keen on a political role as he engages in an all-out war of words with Moscow, that appears to have spilled onto the battlefield.
"The council of commanders of PMC Wagner has made a decision -- the evil that the military leadership of the country brings must be stopped," Prigozin said in a series of furious audio messages released by his spokespeople.
"We were ready to make concessions to the defence ministry, surrender our weapons.
"Today, seeing that we have not been broken, they conducted missile strikes at our rear camps. A huge number of our fighters, our comrades died."

Insider Paper
@TheInsiderPaper
UPDATE - Wagner chief vows to 'stop' Russian military leadership
Insider Paper
UPDATE - Wagner chief accuses Russian defence minister of ordering strikes
UPDATE - Russian defence ministry denies strikes on Wagner forces

Alleged video of Wagner vehicles attempting entry into Russia below.

The video could be fake.

Military helicopters deployed and military vehicles in downtown Rostov-on-Don, Russia. Same situation in border settlements in the region. Shoigu is trying to block off Wagner PMC from entering Russia from Ukraine. pic.twitter.com/jk1Mx2vf8C
— Igor Sushko (@igorsushko) June 23, 2023

Obviously huge if true. But I really don't think a small army can invade Russia successfully.

Updates from andycanuck:

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper
BREAKING: Military vehicles in Russia's capital Moscow after Wagner group threats, high alert reportedly issued
https://tinyurl.com/4mr9tzhx

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper
BREAKING: Russian General Suroviki, holding a machine gun in his hand, called commanders of Wagner to obey Putin's orders and return to their barracks 'before it is too late

BREAKING
Wagner chief says "there are 25,000 of us', urges Russians to join after alleged strikes on its forces
JUST IN - Wagner head says carrying out march for 'justice,' 'not a coup' after it accuses Russian defense ministry of bombing on its forces
War Monitor @WarMonitors#UPDATE Russian Ministry of Defense: All messages and video footage spread on social networks on behalf of Yevgeny Prigozhin about the alleged "strike by the Russian Defense Ministry on the rear camps of Wagner PMCs" do not correspond to reality and are an informational provocation.
https://tinyurl.com/s5hxwbe2

I don't believe anyone about what's happening there. I especially don't believe the US.

Posted by: Ace at 05:40 PM

Comments

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1 I am on Windows, a PC. I open the page and the bottom half is a blank ad with a tab at upper right. An X is there and can be clicked. The ad goes away.

No ad if the comments are opened.

Wassup?

Posted by: Mr Gaga at June 23, 2023 05:40 PM (4ZE6o)

2 Nice to be first.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 23, 2023 05:41 PM (3JfbU)

3 Or second even.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 23, 2023 05:41 PM (3JfbU)

4 >>>Wassup?

I dunno, I'm hoping it goes away.

Posted by: ace at June 23, 2023 05:42 PM (KRtlO)

5 Biden will be pissed. With Putin gone, what is this Ukraine war all about?

Posted by: Mr Gaga at June 23, 2023 05:42 PM (4ZE6o)

6 You know who else used Wagner.

Posted by: fd at June 23, 2023 05:42 PM (iayUP)

7 Coup? Huh… anyway..

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2023 05:43 PM (PCK5/)

8 And allegedly, the founder of the group has turned a column of his troops towards Russia.

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(lays $100 on table)

Color revolution. We're behind it.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 23, 2023 05:43 PM (sSzZe)

9 I really don't think a small army can invade Russia successfully.

Posted by: Ace at 05:40 PM

Sure as shit, the big armies haven't had any luck.

Posted by: Charles XII, Napoleon, and Adolf at June 23, 2023 05:43 PM (/nCD+)

10 6 You know who else used Wagner.
Posted by: fd at June 23, 2023 05:42 PM (iayUP)

Bob Vila?

Posted by: Warai-otoko thinks you might not mean power sprayers.... at June 23, 2023 05:43 PM (9UlRk)

11 You know who else used Wagner.
Posted by: fd at June 23, 2023 05:42 PM (iayUP)

I don't know but is it Liszted?

Posted by: Glenn John at June 23, 2023 05:44 PM (RilAR)

12 Is There a Coup Unfolding in Russia?

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No, but Wagners may have realized that when peace negotiations start they may be the scapegoats. They could be trying something on to forestall that happening.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 23, 2023 05:44 PM (3JfbU)

13
Destabilizing or toppling Russia seems to a terrible idea

So of course Bidens will be all for it

Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at June 23, 2023 05:44 PM (G0Yka)

14 Will we be mad if Putin nukes his own country?

Posted by: Flash at June 23, 2023 05:45 PM (SQyzz)

15
What is the question
To which the answer is:
9-W

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 23, 2023 05:45 PM (sSzZe)

16 Me too same as first

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at June 23, 2023 05:45 PM (+2+Bx)

17 Oh for sure we’re behind it… makes me think of the Bay of Pigs thingy…

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2023 05:45 PM (PCK5/)

18 The Ukrainians have been successful in raiding Belograd for weeks on end. I don’t think Russia has sufficient mobilized reserves to stop Wagner from driving across the border. I do think Wagner is eventually going to get pasted by the Russian Air Force tasked with protecting their major cities.

Posted by: OhNoNotTheBees! at June 23, 2023 05:45 PM (ITKOf)

19 Will we be mad if Putin nukes his own country?
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It will be all the reason we need to enter the war. Or something.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 23, 2023 05:45 PM (sSzZe)

20 >>Color revolution. We're behind it.

yeah I was thinking, "We probably made them a better deal."

Posted by: ace at June 23, 2023 05:45 PM (KRtlO)

21 >>Is There a Coup Unfolding in Russia?

More importantly, is there a way for Tom Cruise to exploit this situation, maybe a movie treatment?

Posted by: DB - at June 23, 2023 05:46 PM (geLO8)

22 Prighozin is being prosecuted per Tass.

It is something for sure.

What?

Who knows?

Fascinating times.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 23, 2023 05:46 PM (7fCUo)

23 Hmmm. I'll wait until I see the real "reality" of what this is. Not holding my breath for any actual reporting of the true situation.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 23, 2023 05:46 PM (BdMk6)

24 Maybe they haven't been paid as promised and have decided to leave the battlefield. There is nowhere else to go except Moscow.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 23, 2023 05:46 PM (3JfbU)

25 What a fucking clownshow.

Slavs gotta slav.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2023 05:46 PM (9UlRk)

26 what a strange turn of events, if true.

Posted by: ace at June 23, 2023 05:46 PM (KRtlO)

27 Dolly Parton and Porter Wagner

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at June 23, 2023 05:46 PM (+2+Bx)

28 "But I really don't think a small army can invade Russia successfully."

but i recall reading that when napoleon escaped from the first exile (don't recall if elba or st helene) a french army was sent to stop him and they pretty much all deserted and joined napoleon.

an uprising against putin? maybe could happen.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 23, 2023 05:46 PM (B1FKF)

29
Somehow, Trump is to blame.

Posted by: wth at June 23, 2023 05:46 PM (v0R5T)

30 Foolish of Pootie Poot to allow an armed military force that isn't loyal to him alone.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at June 23, 2023 05:47 PM (opVjj)

31 So many want Putin to fall, and Zelenskyy to triumph… careful what you wish for..

Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2023 05:47 PM (PCK5/)

32 @14 yeah, so a few nukes go off in Russia, what’s the worst that could happen?

Posted by: Allen at June 23, 2023 05:47 PM (zpiAX)

33 Will we be mad if Putin nukes his own country?
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It will be all the reason we need to enter the war. Or something.

-

"We'll give you each 24 pairs of genuine Levi khaki shorts, every year, for the rest of your lives."

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 23, 2023 05:47 PM (sSzZe)

34 >>>
More importantly, is there a way for Tom Cruise to exploit this situation, maybe a movie treatment?

he already blew up the Kremlin in MI:4 so I don't know where he goes from there

Posted by: ace at June 23, 2023 05:47 PM (KRtlO)

35 I don't follow the Uke/Russian stuff. But, if a merc unit is fighting Mother Russia, isn't there a damn good likelihood we are paying them?

Posted by: Tonypete at June 23, 2023 05:48 PM (q3ANs)

36 Dammit, wrong copy/paste. Let's try that again
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Color revolution. We're behind it.

yeah I was thinking, "We probably made them a better deal."

Posted by: ace
--

"We'll give you each 24 pairs of genuine Levi khaki shorts, every year, for the rest of your lives."

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 23, 2023 05:48 PM (sSzZe)

37 How much did Biden give Wagner?

Posted by: wth at June 23, 2023 05:48 PM (v0R5T)

38 Russia isn't very good at fighting offensive battles, but they are quite good at defending the motherland.

Assuming this is true (50km long column seems ridiculous) I wonder whether Wagner has made a very large error?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 23, 2023 05:48 PM (PHmov)

39 And, if true, it allows the perverts in DC to slip out of any consequence of their war....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 23, 2023 05:48 PM (Angsy)

40 Nothing is as it seems.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 23, 2023 05:48 PM (U2p+3)

41 If they shove putin into a corner and he feels he has nothing to lose he may just order the button pushed. Hopefully no one will listen to him or the weapons won't launch.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 23, 2023 05:49 PM (ncXxy)

42
they shootin at Putin?
they hope Putin be scooting
they wanna be bootin Putin
who rootin for Putin?

Posted by: DB - at June 23, 2023 05:49 PM (geLO8)

43 re 30: well duh.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 23, 2023 05:49 PM (B1FKF)

44
Whoops! Never mind the injustice department, take a look at this!

Posted by: Auspex at June 23, 2023 05:49 PM (j4U/Z)

45
You know who else used Wagner.
Posted by: fd at June 23, 2023 05:42 PM (iayUP)

I don't know but is it Liszted?
Posted by: Glenn John at June 23, 2023 05:44 PM (RilAR)

I dunno, but Bach in the day, classical music was much more important than now.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 23, 2023 05:49 PM (n+4am)

46 they shootin at Putin?
they hope Putin be scooting
they wanna be bootin Putin
who rootin for Putin?
Posted by: DB - at June 23, 2023 05:49 PM (geLO

The Scoot Putin Boogie?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2023 05:50 PM (9UlRk)

47 one ping only, giorgi

Posted by: ace at June 23, 2023 05:50 PM (KRtlO)

48 Is this a diversion from more crap to surface about Bidens?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 23, 2023 05:50 PM (3JfbU)

49 A 50 km column? Of mercs? Get the fuck out. This is total and complete bullshit. This story isn’t worth wiping your ass with.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 23, 2023 05:50 PM (jLUfI)

50 >>>48 Wow look at what's going on over there.
Posted by: Hunter and Joe Biden

lol

Posted by: ace at June 23, 2023 05:50 PM (KRtlO)

51 Whoops! Never mind the injustice department, take a look at this!

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hahahaha, yep. And the sub waste of time and money "search and rescue" silliness was a distraction from that.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 23, 2023 05:50 PM (sSzZe)

52 LOL! Highly doubtful there is coup in Russia.

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2023 05:50 PM (16bRC)

53 They should have waited until winter.

Posted by: wth at June 23, 2023 05:51 PM (v0R5T)

54 So many want Putin to fall, and Zelenskyy to triumph… careful what you wish for..
Posted by: tubal at June 23, 2023 05:47 PM (PCK5/)

As I've said numerous times, there are no good guys in this war. And that includes the US.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 23, 2023 05:51 PM (BdMk6)

55
I'll miss Vlad
as implacable enemies go, he had some style

Posted by: DB - at June 23, 2023 05:51 PM (geLO8)

56 if this is true, expect the biden admin to suddenly push for a peace deal and for the bidens to buy another couple of mansions

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 23, 2023 05:51 PM (B1FKF)

57 From my lonely wind swept outpost, I have noticed an increase in military aircraft. I usually enjoy seeing them and guessing what they are.
Traffic is up, seems like.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 23, 2023 05:52 PM (MeG8a)

58 If they take Starbucks Moscow, then we know Pooty is in trouble.

Posted by: wth at June 23, 2023 05:52 PM (v0R5T)

59 Traffic is up, seems like.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 23, 2023 05:52 PM (MeG8a)

Everyone punching in training hours before the end of the month?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2023 05:53 PM (9UlRk)

60 But, you know, there is a video....

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2023 05:53 PM (16bRC)

61 The 24-hour rule becomes the 10 year rule when Russia is involved.

Posted by: Dark Force Thirsting For Power at June 23, 2023 05:53 PM (QY+6a)

62 Nothing is as it seems.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 23, 2023 05:48 PM (U2p+3)

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Yep. We just saw how a submarine disaster that would have been explained within minutes of it happening was stretched out into days at the whim of the rulers. Reality bending is the main game now.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 23, 2023 05:53 PM (3JfbU)

63
A deception to lure Ukrainians into that portion of the front occupied by Wagner?

Posted by: Auspex at June 23, 2023 05:53 PM (j4U/Z)

64 BNO News @BNONews
Military vehicles spotted at multiple locations in Moscow amid high alert

BNO News @BNONews
Top Russian General Surovikin to Wagner forces: "Before it's too late, it's necessary to obey the will and order of the elected president. Stop the columns, return them to their permanent positions and places of concentration"

BNO News @BNONews
Top Russian General Surovikin in appeal to Wagner forces: "I urge you to stop. The enemy is just waiting for the internal political situation to worsen in our country"

BNO News @BNONews
BREAKING: Russia's FSB calls on Wagner forces to refuse Yevgeny Prigozhin's "criminal orders" and take him into custody

BNO News @BNONews
Russian prosecutors confirm criminal investigation opened against Wagner group's founder for organizing armed rebellion, say he could face 12 to 20 years in prison

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 05:53 PM (Vwz3I)

65 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper
BREAKING: Military vehicles in Russia's capital Moscow after Wagner group threats, high alert reportedly issued

https://tinyurl.com/4mr9tzhx
20 seconds

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper
BREAKING: Russian General Surovikin, holding a machine gun in his hand, called commanders of Wagner to obey Putin’s orders and return to their barracks 'before it is too late

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 05:54 PM (Vwz3I)

66 62 But, you know, there is a video....
Posted by: runner at June 23, 2023 05:53 PM (16bRC)

Five roubles says it's "video" like the rocket attack on the Kremlin...

Two Wagner pick up trucks, 50 km apart.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2023 05:54 PM (9UlRk)

67 Wagner is the world's elite Urban Assault force.

They can't do combined arms very well. They got wrecked when RUS pulled air cover and artillery in Africa.

There is no way they are moving in column.

Maybe they inserted into capitol and plan action there but no way they move over open ground.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 23, 2023 05:54 PM (7fCUo)

68 Come to Russia...the vodka is cold and the weather is colder!

Posted by: Marshal Bernadotte at June 23, 2023 05:54 PM (wIpch)

69 I’d trust a crackhead Uke hooker more than I’d trust this story

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 23, 2023 05:54 PM (jLUfI)

70
From my lonely wind swept outpost, I have noticed an increase in military aircraft. I usually enjoy seeing them and guessing what they are.
Traffic is up, seems like.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 23, 2023 05:52 PM (MeG8a)

Hmmm. My shop is about 1500 yards from the airport, and we ALWAYS have CANG F-15s flying during the day. Haven't heard a single one either today or yesterday. Interesting...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 23, 2023 05:55 PM (n+4am)

71 Earlier:
War Monitor @WarMonitors
⚡️ The “Fortress” plan has been announced in a number of police departments of the Rostov region, reports Baza.

Baza also writes that “employees are on alert. Whether anxiety is educational and what its causes are being investigated. The "Fortress" plan implies an emergency gathering of personnel and taking control of especially important objects of law enforcement agencies. The plan also provides for readiness to repel an external attack.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rostov_Oblast

Faytuks News Δ @Faytuks
Multiple Russian sources report that the "fortress" plan has been implemented in Moscow.

"The fortress plan implies an emergency gathering of police personnel & provides readiness to repel an external attack"

Faytuks News Δ @Faytuks
BREAKING: FSB put on alert in Moscow. Roadblocks set up on the Moscow-Voronezh-Rostov road. Those who are on duty are ordered to "open fire in case of a threat", sources tell BBC Russia

Faytuks News Δ @Faytuks
Donetsk-based telegram channel: "It is reported that the border from the DPR to the Rostov region is closed"

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 05:55 PM (Vwz3I)

72 Social Media coup?

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2023 05:55 PM (16bRC)

73 65
A deception to lure Ukrainians into that portion of the front occupied by Wagner?
Posted by: Auspex at June 23, 2023 05:53 PM (j4U/Z)

Wagner is on leave and refitting. Out of battle.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 23, 2023 05:56 PM (7fCUo)

74 Much earlier
Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper
BREAKING 🚨 Wagner chief accuses Russia military leadership of bombing its forces

UPDATE - Wagner chief vows to 'stop' Russian military leadership

UPDATE - Wagner chief accuses Russian defence minister of ordering strikes

UPDATE - Russian defence ministry denies strikes on Wagner forces

BREAKING 🚨 Wagner chief says "there are 25,000 of us', urges Russians to join after alleged strikes on its forces

JUST IN - Wagner head says carrying out march for 'justice,' 'not a coup' after it accuses Russian defense ministry of bombing on its forces

War Monitor @WarMonitors
⚡️#UPDATE Russian Ministry of Defense: All messages and video footage spread on social networks on behalf of Yevgeny Prigozhin about the alleged “strike by the Russian Defense Ministry on the rear camps of Wagner PMCs” do not correspond to reality and are an informational provocation.
https://tinyurl.com/s5hxwbe2
video/audio

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 05:56 PM (Vwz3I)

75 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper
BREAKING: Putin is aware of Wagner claims, 'necessary measures' being taken, Kremlin says

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper
BREAKING: RUSSIA'S FEDERAL SECURITY SERVICE OPENS CRIMINAL CASE AGAINST WAGNER FOUNDER PRIGOZHIN FOR A CALL FOR ARMED MUTINY - TASS

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 05:56 PM (Vwz3I)

76 >>>Wassup?

I dunno, I'm hoping it goes away.
Posted by: ace at June 23, 2023 05:42 PM

If it lasts more than 4 hours, call your doctor, ace.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 23, 2023 05:57 PM (Wnv9h)

77 a bit early for an off topic, but i saw this at a joke of a website called 'mother jones':

Hollywood Has a Climate Problem
A warming planet has changed our everyday reality, so why are screenwriters ignoring it?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 23, 2023 05:57 PM (B1FKF)

78 Yep. We just saw how a submarine disaster that would have been explained within minutes of it happening was stretched out into days at the whim of the rulers. Reality bending is the main game now.

Posted by: President Select Deca

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Not just that, but unfathomable money and resources and public deceit to pretend that it was still actually happening. Note that this is two days ago and after a bunch of Coast Guard "we'll find 'em!!!" speeches:

"Experts have underscored the scope of resources deployed to the search.

“The assets that are deployed out there are significant,” Larry Daley, president of Titanic Expeditions and an expert on the Titanic, said Wednesday on MSNBC. “I’ve never seen anything like this in my life. I haven’t seen this in a movie.”

https://tinyurl.com/2gjourh5

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 23, 2023 05:57 PM (sSzZe)

79 Maybe Wagner received the Pentagon's accounting error.

Posted by: Fool Otto at June 23, 2023 05:57 PM (DB16e)

80 Oh it's a march. More like a parade? It's a parade! Never mind...

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2023 05:57 PM (16bRC)

81
Theory: Biden Admin knew about sub destruction days ago and used story distract from Hunter stuff.

Better Theory: Biden Admin caused the sub destruction days ago and used story to distract from Hunter stuff.

Billionaires on board. Who was on there and what did they know?

Posted by: ... at June 23, 2023 05:58 PM (lX8VI)

82 These things were funner when a drunk Boris Yeltsin was standing on a tank.

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 23, 2023 05:58 PM (xPl2J)

83 *considers possibility of starting own private army*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 23, 2023 05:58 PM (RIvkX)

84 I do not know if this is an attempted coup, an attempted purge, or what. But I know that the person theoretically in charge of our country is at best a left-handed, cross-threaded, football bat. I can see him sending money to Putin to help him hold power at the same time he is paying the Ukrainians to resist Putin.

"It was the best of times. It was the worst of times."

Subotai Bahadur

Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at June 23, 2023 05:58 PM (582Yu)

85 Hold on...gotta pull this onion out of my ear. The ad said it would help my tinnitus.

Posted by: Don't think it worked. at June 23, 2023 05:59 PM (AJ2DX)

86 In the town where I was born
Lived a man who sailed to sea
And he told us of his life
In the land of submarines
So we sailed on to the sun
'Til we found a sea of green
And we lived beneath the waves
In our yellow submarine

Posted by: Joe Bitem master of the English langauge Master baiter and orater at June 23, 2023 05:59 PM (NtVYv)

87
See you all in the valley of Armageddon!

Posted by: Russia at June 23, 2023 05:59 PM (+oR7L)

88 zerohedge Retweeted: max seddon @maxseddon · 42m Replying to @maxseddon
Russia's prosecutors:

"The FSB lawfully and justifiably launched a criminal case against Y.V. Prigozhin [...] for organizing an armed uprising. His actions will receive appropriate legal assessment. The sentence for this crime is 12-20 years in prison."

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 05:59 PM (Vwz3I)

89 Maybe Z used his latest $6B from Uncle Sam to buy himself some mercenaries?

Posted by: EveR at June 23, 2023 05:59 PM (MUpk6)

90

I love a coup of coffee

Posted by: Joe Bitem master of the English langauge Master baiter and orater at June 23, 2023 05:59 PM (NtVYv)

91 That's about as real as that coup attempt against Turkey's Erdogan some years ago. Who announces a coup? You sneak in and decapitate then announce a coup.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 23, 2023 05:59 PM (3JfbU)

92 87 Hold on...gotta pull this onion out of my ear. The ad said it would help my tinnitus.
Posted by: Don't think it worked. at June 23, 2023 05:59 PM (AJ2DX)

WHAT?!?!?!

Posted by: Warai-otoko with a water bottle cap lodged in his eustachean tube at June 23, 2023 06:00 PM (9UlRk)

93 93 That's about as real as that coup attempt against Turkey's Erdogan some years ago. Who announces a coup? You sneak in and decapitate then announce a coup.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 23, 2023 05:59 PM (3JfbU)

We're gonna gay bash Putin SO hard....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2023 06:00 PM (9UlRk)

94 "The Wagner Group is a private army -- mercenaries -- that Putin uses to fight the war in Ukraine. I assume he employs mercenaries to avoid having to draft more Russian boys, which would erode his standing with the public."

No. That's a totally wrong take. Also -- they're NOT mercenaries and they are all citizens of the RF. And there's zero erosion of Putin's standing. In fact, volunteer recruitment is UP. ALL MALES aged 18-27 have always had to perform one year of military service. It has nothing to do with the US proxy war against Russia.

Posted by: DJS at June 23, 2023 06:00 PM (j4Af6)

95 Let me put some knowledge into you, last time there was a "soft coup" when kgb/ fsb removed Yeltsin and replaced him with Putin.

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2023 06:00 PM (16bRC)

96
A warming planet has changed our everyday reality, so why are screenwriters ignoring it?
Posted by: gnats local 678

Uh, because they are on strike?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot Egg-Fried: Proud Member of Clan Fried for ... oh, 'bout Four Weeks Now at June 23, 2023 06:01 PM (pNxlR)

97 https://youtu.be/nxMMElT61A8

Who knows what is really going on. I generally tune out all newz about Ukraine/Russia. Nearly all of it is BS. It would be nice to have actual journalism about this but, we don't. Just fear and outrage pron, 24/7.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 23, 2023 06:01 PM (uia9V)

98 *considers possibility of starting own private army*
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 23, 2023 05:58 PM (RIvkX)

the Horde could raise an army, but it would go nowhere as we all look side-eyed at one another wondering how many are glowies.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at June 23, 2023 06:01 PM (T/Lqj)

99 re 83: biden barely knows the difference between chocolate ships and paint chips.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 23, 2023 06:01 PM (B1FKF)

100
I'm pretty sure I read this plot line of bombing your own position in 'Catch-22'. Dosimeter high on Amazon 'wish list' but not number one. Yet.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 23, 2023 06:01 PM (enJYY)

101 I suppose it's a total coincidence that $6.3 billion just appeared in the Wagner commanders' bank accounts.

Posted by: Methos at June 23, 2023 06:02 PM (kOpft)

102 A warming planet has changed our everyday reality, so why are screenwriters ignoring it?
Posted by: gnats local 678

They put their work on ice?

Posted by: Tonypete at June 23, 2023 06:02 PM (q3ANs)

103
Prigozhin is either brilliant, knows something, or has a suicide pact.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 23, 2023 06:02 PM (+oR7L)

104 103 I suppose it's a total coincidence that $6.3 billion just appeared in the Wagner commanders' bank accounts.
Posted by: Methos at June 23, 2023 06:02 PM (kOpft)

and $0.63 billion is in the account of some Biden not named Joe?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2023 06:02 PM (9UlRk)

105 zerohedge @zerohedge · 1h
Russia Starts Mutiny Probe After Statements By Prigozhin, Who Now Denies "Coup Attempt"

sock link to ZH updated reporting including an early tweet...

Dmitri Alperovitch @DAlperovitch
Predictably, Evgeny massively overreached today. Classic case of success going to one's head and resulting in freedom/life-limiting outcomes

Dmitri Alperovitch @DAlperovitch
No, this is not likely to turn into a civil war. It is what in Russia is called ‘razborki’ (gangland warfare)

And it looks like one gang is about to get totally crushed because the other has all the weapons and the security services on their side

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 06:02 PM (Vwz3I)

106 Oh it's a march. More like a parade? It's a parade! Never mind...

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2023 05:57 PM (16bRC)

You deserve life in prison for parading!!!!!! Our lives were in danger by your moving feet!!!

Posted by: AOC, Nowhere in the area at June 23, 2023 06:03 PM (Angsy)

107
Oh no. Not during Pride month!

Posted by: Mothers Against Strait Children at June 23, 2023 06:03 PM (+oR7L)

108 Well, time once again for a film which like "Die Hard" almost everybody saw in the 1980's, but spouse and I did not, and son hasn't either. Tonight's film, "Big Trouble in Little China" or at least part of it:

Have a good night all.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2023 06:03 PM (Keyt1)

109 Horde could raise an army, but it would go nowhere as we all look side-eyed at one another wondering how many are glowies.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well

Not as long as we have our secret signals

*makes wanking motion
*grabs boobs
*wanders off

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 23, 2023 06:04 PM (U2p+3)

110 Theory: Biden Admin knew about sub destruction days ago and used story distract from Hunter stuff.

Better Theory: Biden Admin caused the sub destruction days ago and used story to distract from Hunter stuff.

Billionaires on board. Who was on there and what did they know?
Posted by: ... at June 23, 2023 05:58 PM (lX8VI)

-----------------

Nothing would surprise me particularly as there are rumours that one of the billionaire was a Republican. Two birds, one stone.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 23, 2023 06:04 PM (3JfbU)

111 Biden wins again!

Posted by: Paul at June 23, 2023 06:04 PM (kqTft)

112
You know who else used Wagner.
Posted by: fd

Dunno. I hope they brought their surfboards and a recording of "Ride of the Valkyries though.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot Egg-Fried: Proud Member of Clan Fried for ... oh, 'bout Four Weeks Now at June 23, 2023 06:04 PM (pNxlR)

113 Oh no. Not during Pride month!
Posted by: Mothers Against Strait Children at June 23, 2023 06:03 PM (+oR7L)

Y'all ain't from Texas by any chance, are ya?

Posted by: George Strait at June 23, 2023 06:04 PM (9UlRk)

114 1. Ukraine and western governments and their media hype up counter offensive is going to kick ass.

2. Ukrainian counter offensive actually fails in every measure.

3. All of a sudden Russia is going to have a coup when the Ukrainian counter offensive has failed.

No not buying that Russia is going to have a coup and lose. Not one iota.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 23, 2023 06:05 PM (17s+e)

115 Well most likely this either ends with Prigozhin hiding out in the US or getting beat down by the Russians. The former means we bribed him or otherwise induced him to revolt, the latter means that he felt pressured enough to do something very desperate for some reason.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 23, 2023 06:05 PM (eYoxG)

116 If all i did was listen to the news, I'd fully believe that Ukrainian forces were halfway to Japan by now.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 23, 2023 06:06 PM (9UlRk)

117 "If you're going to kill Putin, kill Putin"

(and collect your CIA bounty)

idk what is going on ...

Posted by: illiniwek at June 23, 2023 06:06 PM (Cus5s)

118 The distance from Bakhmut to Moscow is about 500 miles. Just noting.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 23, 2023 06:06 PM (aD39U)

119 Anyone know an easy way to remove paint drops on concrete?

--

You'll probably need a solvent. A name brand paint remover or acetone would probably help depending on the paint type that was spilled.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 23, 2023 06:06 PM (sSzZe)

120 112 Not as long as we have our secret signals

*makes wanking motion
*grabs boobs
*wanders off

Posted by: nurse ratched

That was clever, leaving off the 2nd, 4th and 5th signal!

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2023 06:07 PM (ZdaMQ)

121 Unless it is epoxy paint I would say you need a real power washer. If it is a stain and then use TSP.

Posted by: pawn at June 23, 2023 06:07 PM (kYVzH)

122 Oh it's a march. More like a parade? It's a parade! Never mind...
Posted by: runner at June 23, 2023 05:57 PM (16bRC)

Parading is a serious matter.

Posted by: Jan 6 prosecutors at June 23, 2023 06:07 PM (kOpft)

123 Who knows what is really going on. I generally tune out all newz about Ukraine/Russia. Nearly all of it is BS. It would be nice to have actual journalism about this but, we don't. Just fear and outrage pron, 24/7.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 23, 2023 06:01 PM (uia9V)

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Me too. My attitude is let me know when it's over.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 23, 2023 06:07 PM (3JfbU)

124 110 Well, time once again for a film which like "Die Hard" almost everybody saw in the 1980's, but spouse and I did not, and son hasn't either. Tonight's film, "Big Trouble in Little China" or at least part of it:

Have a good night all.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 23, 2023 06:03 PM (Keyt1)

Oh that's a good one. Too bad Kurt Russell dies horribly near the end.

Posted by: observer at June 23, 2023 06:08 PM (FBltX)

125
I love the smell of borscht and vodka in the morning ... it smells like Tatianya.

-- Colonel Kursk

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot Egg-Fried: Proud Member of Clan Fried for ... oh, 'bout Four Weeks Now at June 23, 2023 06:08 PM (pNxlR)

126
The only good part of the silly brit series about the royals was Mountbatten explaining the history of coups and how they work.

Posted by: Auspex at June 23, 2023 06:08 PM (j4U/Z)

127 Quick! $100 billion to Moscow to fight Wagner Group aggression!!

Posted by: Weasel at June 23, 2023 06:09 PM (RG6z4)

128 Step aside Chicken.

Posted by: The Rubicon at June 23, 2023 06:09 PM (5shJp)

129
The distance from Bakhmut to Moscow is about 500 miles. Just noting.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 23, 2023 06:06 PM

Ten hours by my reckoning. So the end of the world in the am Tech Tread tomorrow. Of course Pixy, as the mushroom clouds appear will still bitch about the lack of 'essential keys'.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 23, 2023 06:09 PM (enJYY)

130 Hollywood Has a Climate Problem
A warming planet has changed our everyday reality, so why are screenwriters ignoring it?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 23, 2023 05:57 PM

Umm...because they know it's bullshit and you haven't figured it out yet?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 23, 2023 06:10 PM (Wnv9h)

131 cooze > coups

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 23, 2023 06:10 PM (xPl2J)

132 From last thread because it is important:

I tried calling a few times today to get a live person and just filled out their online form. I will contact a tax attorney Monday and go from there, I assume that is what I need. Have boatloads of labor attorney friends, no tax ones, though! I don’t have time for this!
Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2023 05:49 PM (ZdaMQ)

The fastest way to resolve this is probably going to be to prove that there is no debt to garnish, which will mean you have to contact the unemployment benefits agency to start proving there was fraud. That is the other end of the knot to start working on. The tax agency is probably just working an automated garnishment request for the UI people.
Call them too, on Monday

Posted by: Kindltot at June 23, 2023 06:11 PM (xhaym)

133 The distance from Bakhmut to Moscow is about 500 miles. Just noting.

How many East of the Borders are there in that stretch. Piotr says....

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2023 06:11 PM (eOEVl)

134 100 billion to Wagner to fight Putin aggression!
- Mr. Prigozin, capitalist

Posted by: runner at June 23, 2023 06:11 PM (16bRC)

135 I don't believe a lot of people appreciate just how dangerous this is. You have the Twitteridiots with their Uke freak flags flying and saying Putin will finally be gone. Nope. He will not. There is a lot of very worrisome movement inside the country and apparent moves to "protect" nuclear weapons, installations and command/control. This isn't your ideal outcome. It's one of your worst case scenarios that leads to very bad things. No bueno.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 23, 2023 06:11 PM (/PTz1)

136 coochie >cooze > coups

Posted by: observer at June 23, 2023 06:11 PM (FBltX)

137 So, here's a thought. We're treating this as a surprise because we're just hearing about it.

If the Ukrainian "offensive" hadn't spectacularly failed, wouldn't it still be going on right now, and this sort of thing a really useful distraction to have in the middle of it?

Posted by: Methos at June 23, 2023 06:11 PM (kOpft)

138 The distance from Bakhmut to Moscow is about 500 miles. Just noting.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 23, 2023 06:06 PM

And a column moving w/o air cover is doomed.

Posted by: Archer at June 23, 2023 06:12 PM (gmo/4)

139 6 You know who else used Wagner.

Posted by: fd at June 23, 2023 05:42 PM (iayUP)
----
Natalie Wood?

Posted by: Ciampino found her to be hawt at June 23, 2023 06:12 PM (qfLjt)

140 Probably got paid billions to turn traitor

Posted by: Gonzotx at June 23, 2023 06:12 PM (O14ZA)

141 Mercenaries, $6.8 billion "found" by the DOD, some assembly required...

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2023 06:12 PM (ptElO)

142 cooze > coups

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 23, 2023 06:10 PM (xPl2J)

Bob Cousy > cooze > coups

Posted by: Bahstan Celtoid at June 23, 2023 06:12 PM (Angsy)

143 Haven't read anything on this yet

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2023 06:13 PM (xhxe8)

144 I can see where getting shelled by your own guys could leave a mark...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 23, 2023 06:13 PM (MeG8a)

145 Hey! Do you know who else started out for Moscow on June 22nd?

Posted by: Archer at June 23, 2023 06:13 PM (gmo/4)

146 You know who else used Wagner.

Nietszche sure is peatszche.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 23, 2023 06:14 PM (eOEVl)

147 Trump is colluding with Wagner?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 23, 2023 06:14 PM (3vbXJ)

148 Biden and the Democrats strategy, along with the Fairy Prince Lindsey Graham and his band of ass pirates seems to be, "we're gonna get regime change, if it kills us all!". Somehow they see that as winning.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 23, 2023 06:14 PM (/PTz1)

149 Coup that overthrew Allende > Coup that overthrew Diem

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 23, 2023 06:14 PM (RIvkX)

150 @135 People have gone crazy, they think that because there hasn’t ever been a nuclear war, it can’t ever happen.

Posted by: Allen at June 23, 2023 06:14 PM (Ctbnt)

151 Billion Dollar Brain

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 23, 2023 06:14 PM (63Dwl)

152 you made that up, although the demon in the truck cab might have been a clue,

Posted by: no 6 at June 23, 2023 06:14 PM (PXvVL)

153 I'm able to digest this "news" as propaganda. I don't trust anyone but a very small handful of reporters/commentators anymore.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 23, 2023 06:15 PM (BdMk6)

154 OK guys. Sub thing is wrapped up. What else we got? Trouble in Moscow you say? Let's go with that!

Posted by: Weasel at June 23, 2023 06:15 PM (RG6z4)

155 Didn't the Wagner group used to make shock absorbers?

Blue ones?

Posted by: DaveA at June 23, 2023 06:15 PM (FhXTo)

156 the libyan general hafter against the turk backed interim govt,

Posted by: no 6 at June 23, 2023 06:15 PM (PXvVL)

157 LUKASHENKO ESCAPING?

Business jet of Belarussian Dictator Lukashenko's family took off from Minsk at 00:01.

- Belarusian opposition media

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 23, 2023 06:15 PM (xPl2J)

158 129
The distance from Bakhmut to Moscow is about 500 miles. Just noting.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 23, 2023 06:06 PM

Ten hours by my reckoning. So the end of the world in the am Tech Tread tomorrow. Of course Pixy, as the mushroom clouds appear will still bitch about the lack of 'essential keys'.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 23, 2023 06:09 PM (enJYY)
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Pixy will do his own version of "On The Beach" by Neville Shute.

Posted by: Ciampino - Where did all those fucking alpha particles come from? at June 23, 2023 06:16 PM (qfLjt)

159 Nothing would surprise me particularly as there are rumours that one of the billionaire was a Republican. Two birds, one stone.

Wonder if he was central to some anti-Federal Reserve operation.

Posted by: t-bird at June 23, 2023 06:16 PM (ptElO)

160
Didn't the Wagner group used to make shock absorbers?

Paint sprayers

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot Egg-Fried: Proud Member of Clan Fried for ... oh, 'bout Four Weeks Now at June 23, 2023 06:16 PM (pNxlR)

161 "And a column moving w/o air cover is doomed.
Posted by: Archer at June 23, 2023 06:12 PM (gmo/4)"

They wouldn't make it 10 miles moving in anything but company size groups without armored vehicles.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 23, 2023 06:16 PM (/PTz1)

162 Afternoon.

Like Ace, I have my doubts. Mostly I just don't want to get my hopes up. Fuck Putin.

But it's easy to take little video clips like that and say it's Wagner Mercs invading Russia. How could you tell unless you spoke Russian?

Posted by: Robert at June 23, 2023 06:17 PM (FdtYm)

163 127 Quick! $100 billion to Moscow to fight Wagner Group aggression!!
Posted by: Weasel at June 23, 2023 06:09
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Quick! $200 billion to Wagner Group to fight Putin/Moscow aggression!!

----Miss Lindsey

Posted by: olddog in mo at June 23, 2023 06:17 PM (YJx9y)

164 Paint sprayers
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot Egg-Fried: Proud Member of Clan Fried for ... oh, 'bout Four Weeks Now at June 23, 2023 06:16 PM (pNxlR)
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I was going to say ladders but I think paint sprayers is correct.

Posted by: Weasel at June 23, 2023 06:17 PM (RG6z4)

165 Popular Science: AAROK is France’s bigger, newer take on the US’s Reaper drone

The drone prototype sports a wingspan of 72 feet. It is designed to carry weapons.

https://tinyurl.com/3pweassz

Via Insty.

Posted by: Robert at June 23, 2023 06:18 PM (FdtYm)

166 Posted by: Kindltot

Thank you so very much for everything!

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2023 06:18 PM (ZdaMQ)

167 Isn't there rules going after the King or Czar

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2023 06:18 PM (xhxe8)

168 Russian channel DONTSTOPWAR reports ...

--------

I thought that channel was owned by NeverTrump, Soros, and the New York Times.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 23, 2023 06:18 PM (1Feb+)

169 Beatles > Wagner

Coo coo cachoo

Posted by: Rex B at June 23, 2023 06:18 PM (Zso0h)

170 The ghost of Pinochet ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 23, 2023 06:19 PM (NtVYv)

171 Maskirovka.

*touches nose*

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 23, 2023 06:19 PM (aD39U)

172
People have gone crazy, they think that because there hasn’t ever been a nuclear war, it can’t ever happen.

Posted by: Allen at June 23, 2023 06:14 PM

If I had never read a news article about a husband killing his own children, then his wife, then himself I would think it impossible. but I see it too often to ignore the possibility of someone acquiring a high position who is just that bat-shit crazy. Or demented.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 23, 2023 06:19 PM (enJYY)

173 Wagner is not in Bakhmut.

They are on R&R and refitting.

Scheduled back to field in Aug.

They don't have the men to succeed on their own. And Wagner officer corps is RUS MoD.

Prighozin is not military leader. "Lotus" and the former MoD head of Logistics are in command.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 23, 2023 06:20 PM (7fCUo)

174 164 Paint sprayers
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot Egg-Fried: Proud Member of Clan Fried for ... oh, 'bout Four Weeks Now at June 23, 2023 06:16 PM (pNxlR)
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I was going to say ladders but I think paint sprayers is correct.
Posted by: Weasel at June 23, 2023 06:17 PM (RG6z4)

Werner is ladders

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at June 23, 2023 06:20 PM (qXxi9)

175 Queue the "everything's fake and gay. And an op."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 23, 2023 06:21 PM (Q4IgG)

176 I tuned to a rooskie radio station to check for news but they don't have the courtesy to broadcast in English.

Posted by: Weasel at June 23, 2023 06:21 PM (RG6z4)

177 Battleswarm Blog: Louis Rossmann Dings Amazon For Canceling Customer’s Account Over False “Racist Doorbell.” Result: Amazon Cancels Rossmann’s Affiliate Account

https://tinyurl.com/2aet894m

Via...ya know...

Posted by: Robert at June 23, 2023 06:21 PM (FdtYm)

178
Business jet of Belarussian Dictator Lukashenko's family took off from Minsk at 00:01.

- Belarusian opposition media
Posted by: Mark1971
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[frantically chases plane down the runway]

Wait for me! Wait for me!

Posted by: Rochelle Rochelle at June 23, 2023 06:21 PM (g59Yt)

179 I was going to say ladders but I think paint sprayers is correct.
Posted by: Weasel at June 23, 2023 06:17 PM (RG6z4

Yep. Used to do some of their trademark work.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 23, 2023 06:21 PM (Wnv9h)

180 Popular Science: AAROK is France’s bigger, newer take on the US’s Reaper drone

The drone prototype sports a wingspan of 72 feet. It is designed to carry weapons.

https://tinyurl.com/3pweassz

Via Insty.
Posted by: Robert at June 23, 2023 06:18 PM (FdtYm)

Hasn't this Ukraine war shown that smaller is better? If you make the drone big enough, it easily justifies using anti-aircraft missiles against it. A small drone armed with essentially a mortar round doesn't justify a million dollar missile except to the infantryman hit by that grenade.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 23, 2023 06:21 PM (aD39U)

181 I wonder if all of this is a way for Putin to get rid of Shoigu. Shoigu isn't ethnically Russian, and there are a lot of Russians upset that he is the MOD.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at June 23, 2023 06:22 PM (aGT/k)

182 I tuned to a rooskie radio station to check for news but they don't have the courtesy to broadcast in English.
Posted by: Weasel
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Inconsiderate bastards.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 23, 2023 06:23 PM (miw4b)

183 My guess is that the power struggle is just between DOD and Wagner (Shoigu and Prigozhin) and neither can or would challenge Putin.

So it is not at all a coup

It appears that Wagner has been trying to prove its value the past couple months, and failing, and blaming DOD. Many said this was scripted but I don't buy it. Lately Prigozhin has said a lot of provocative things. It sounded to me like he was trying to lob bombs at Shoigu, while still supporting Putin and the war.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 23, 2023 06:24 PM (5shJp)

184 Hey! Do you know who else started out for Moscow on June 22nd?

Posted by: Archer

That's pretty astute, there. Because there is a long campaign season before winter.
Who has a red beard?
Barbarossa has a red beard.

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at June 23, 2023 06:24 PM (vcOmj)

185 What is the question
To which the answer is:
9-W

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 23, 2023 05:45 PM (sSzZe)

What is the name of the highway between Fort Lee and Albany.

Posted by: Marcus gravey at June 23, 2023 06:24 PM (516e+)

186 I tuned to a rooskie radio station to check for news but they don't have the courtesy to broadcast in English.

Posted by: Weasel at June 23, 2023 06:21 PM (RG6z4)

Hear any Gorky Park?
https://youtu.be/lrSKG3TS0uE

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 23, 2023 06:24 PM (xPl2J)

187 Posted by: Thesokorus at June 23, 2023 06:20 PM (7fCUo)

Better call the Hessians \,,/

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 23, 2023 06:24 PM (NtVYv)

188 I tuned to a rooskie radio station to check for news but they don't have the courtesy to broadcast in English.
Posted by: Weasel at June 23, 2023 06:21 PM

Blyat!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 23, 2023 06:25 PM (Wnv9h)

189 Emergency, Emergency.. everyone to get from street!

Posted by: Weasel at June 23, 2023 06:25 PM (RG6z4)

190 130 Hollywood Has a Climate Problem
A warming planet has changed our everyday reality, so why are screenwriters ignoring it?
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 23, 2023 05:57 PM

Umm...because they know it's bullshit and you haven't figured it out yet?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

Ignore it? They won't shut the hell up about it. Same with whatever the latest sexual deviancy is in vogue at the moment.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 23, 2023 06:25 PM (yRved)

191 155 Didn't the Wagner group used to make shock absorbers?

Blue ones?
Posted by: DaveA at June 23, 2023 06:15 PM (FhXTo)

Driftwood

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at June 23, 2023 06:25 PM (aGT/k)

192 Hasn't this Ukraine war shown that smaller is better? If you make the drone big enough, it easily justifies using anti-aircraft missiles against it. A small drone armed with essentially a mortar round doesn't justify a million dollar missile except to the infantryman hit by that grenade.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

Yeah, unless it has "stealth" characteristics. And this big French drone doesn't appear to have stealth characteristics.

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at June 23, 2023 06:25 PM (vcOmj)

193 @187 General Washington took care of them already.

Posted by: Allen at June 23, 2023 06:26 PM (Ctbnt)

194 Reinforce your topcover, guys.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 23, 2023 06:27 PM (aD39U)

195 David Strom: What does sex ed look like these days? Don't read this before eating...

https://tinyurl.com/mryype5t

Posted by: Robert at June 23, 2023 06:27 PM (FdtYm)

196 Oh boy, the US funding a war where a bunch of mercenaries take over a country, what could go wrong?

Posted by: Rbastid at June 23, 2023 06:27 PM (IAo4Y)

197 192 Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at June 23, 2023 06:25 PM (vcOmj)

One way to think of it is as a bomb truck, if you have a big thing loitering with beam riding munitions you can have smaller stealthy lookers running around to call down the thunder.

Posted by: sven at June 23, 2023 06:27 PM (X0I7i)

198 "There's so much propaganda out of Russia and Ukraine I try to avoid writing about it at all."

As do I avoid reading it. I have only enough time to digest the USA propaganda.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 23, 2023 06:27 PM (MvF+J)

199 Hasn't this Ukraine war shown that smaller is better? If you make the drone big enough, it easily justifies using anti-aircraft missiles against it. A small drone armed with essentially a mortar round doesn't justify a million dollar missile except to the infantryman hit by that grenade.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

It's probably proved the US should be building more A10s and B52s.

I will probably get my chops busted for this statement from the Generals here

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 23, 2023 06:27 PM (NtVYv)

200 You know who else used Wagner.
Posted by: fd
----
Natalie Wood?
Posted by: Ciampino
=======
Full circle back to the Russian art Art Thread.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 06:28 PM (Vwz3I)

201 If Russia sent missiles against the Wagner group that triggered this rebellion why aren't the Russians doing more missile attacks on this 50km column?

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2023 06:28 PM (W3A8K)

202 Yeah, unless it has "stealth" characteristics. And this big French drone doesn't appear to have stealth characteristics.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill

This is for police state enforcement. The French public does not have missiles

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 23, 2023 06:29 PM (5shJp)

203
Hopefully Biden has the four 'essential keys' on the nuclear football, and more importantly, can remember the password.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 23, 2023 06:29 PM (enJYY)

204 The Wagner Group has an immensely complicated and profitable relationship with Putin ans the Russian government. From Wikipedia: "It is widely speculated that the Wagner Group is used by the Russian government to allow for plausible deniability, and to obscure the true casualties and financial costs of Russia's foreign interventions." Plus they get a cut of everything they are involved in.

https://tinyurl.com/ynthunr4

Posted by: Lost In Space at June 23, 2023 06:29 PM (/uFDb)

205 This all puts me in my natural state of confusion.

Who's fighting who?

Where?

Why?

wut

Posted by: eleven at June 23, 2023 06:29 PM (iziT8)

206 Thank you so very much for everything!
Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2023 06:18 PM (ZdaMQ)

I used to issue garnishments.

You can contact me directly via the Oregon Momee link on the front page, but I can't guarantee anything.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 23, 2023 06:30 PM (xhaym)

207 Do small drones show up on thermal imaging?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 23, 2023 06:30 PM (aD39U)

208 49 A 50 km column? Of mercs? Get the fuck out. This is total and complete bullshit. This story isn’t worth wiping your ass with.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 23, 2023 05:50 PM (jLUfI)

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To be fair, 50km is only like, what, 600 feet?

The metric system is for shortd*ck p*ssy s*ccer fans.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 23, 2023 06:30 PM (wzAuc)

209 137 So, here's a thought. We're treating this as a surprise because we're just hearing about it.

If the Ukrainian "offensive" hadn't spectacularly failed, wouldn't it still be going on right now, and this sort of thing a really useful distraction to have in the middle of it?
Posted by: Methos at June 23, 2023 06:11 PM (kOpft)

My guess is something along these lines.

As Ace wrote, Russian, Ukrainian and American propaganda has made it impossible to disentangle truth from lies. As Marcus T noted earlier, let's hope this is another Kiev/D.C. psy op and wishcast because if true this could come here in fiery form (which doesn't seem of much concern to the lunatics in charge).

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 23, 2023 06:30 PM (KSNKu)

210 I never eat the garnishments.

Posted by: eleven at June 23, 2023 06:31 PM (iziT8)

211 You know who else used Wagner.
Posted by: fd
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[sniffs]

Is that napalm?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 23, 2023 06:31 PM (oLF0J)

212 @183 My guess is that the power struggle is just between DOD and Wagner (Shoigu and Prigozhin) and neither can or would challenge Putin.

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Or alternately, Putin has decided to get rid of Prigozhin, and the "coup attempt" is the pretext for it.

Posted by: junior at June 23, 2023 06:31 PM (0aCvg)

213 98 *considers possibility of starting own private army*
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 23, 2023 05:58 PM (RIvkX)

the Horde could raise an army, but it would go nowhere as we all look side-eyed at one another wondering how many are glowies.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at June 23, 2023 06:01 PM (T/Lqj)
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We need to devise a foolproof test for glowies. Some suggestions?
- Deprive them of shoe polisher? See if they'll crack.

Posted by: Ciampino -- Where did all those fucking alpha particles come from? at June 23, 2023 06:32 PM (qfLjt)

214 209 Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 23, 2023 06:30 PM (KSNKu)

American propaganda is the funniest, did you know Russia is bankrupt because they spent 41 billion in deficit spending this year so far?

Remember the Pentagon "found" 6.2 billion in its spare pants this week.

Posted by: sven at June 23, 2023 06:32 PM (X0I7i)

215 Hmm... Wagner? What kind of a name is that? That ain't no Kraut name is it?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 23, 2023 06:32 PM (R/m4+)

216 From Wikipedia: "It is widely speculated that the Wagner Group is used by the Russian government to allow for plausible deniability, and to obscure the true casualties and financial costs of Russia's foreign interventions." Plus they get a cut of everything they are involved in. ......

Is the Wagner group the Russians we decimated in Syria when they fired on us?

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2023 06:32 PM (W3A8K)

217 Is the Wagner group the Russians we decimated in Syria when they fired on us?

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2023 06:32 PM (W3A8K)

The very same.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 23, 2023 06:33 PM (aD39U)

218 Emergency, Emergency.. everyone to get from street!

Posted by: Weasel at June 23, 2023 06:25 PM (RG6z4)

Where is Soviet Submarine Boat?

Posted by: Archer at June 23, 2023 06:33 PM (gmo/4)

219 216 Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2023 06:32 PM (W3A8K)

Yes, and depending on PR needs they are either untrained Russian hillbillies or tougher than Alfa team.

Posted by: sven at June 23, 2023 06:33 PM (X0I7i)

220 I wouldn't trust any of this. Last time Wagner almost came to blows with russian leadership, bakhmut fell. This could simply be theater to get a reaction from ukraine.

Posted by: Tom at June 23, 2023 06:34 PM (bjV9z)

221 We need to devise a foolproof test for glowies. Some suggestions?

Quick asshoe, name at least five recurring themes at AoS!!

Posted by: Tonypete at June 23, 2023 06:34 PM (q3ANs)

222 If only women ran the world...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 23, 2023 06:34 PM (63Dwl)

223 200 You know who else used Wagner.
Posted by: fd
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Natalie Wood?
Posted by: Ciampino
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Full circle back to the Russian art Art Thread.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 06:28 PM (Vwz3I)

Good recall, forgot she was Russian.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at June 23, 2023 06:35 PM (aGT/k)

224
NOOD: Vignettes of lovely lefty ladies and their epic vacuousness.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot Egg-Fried: Proud Member of Clan Fried for ... oh, 'bout Four Weeks Now at June 23, 2023 06:35 PM (pNxlR)

225 So, do any of you Moron have both a commercial drone and thermal imaging? I really would like to know if you can spot the buggers by their heat signature.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 23, 2023 06:35 PM (aD39U)

226 It's probably proved the US should be building more A10s and B52s.

I will probably get my chops busted for this statement from the Generals here
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 23, 2023 06:27 PM (NtVYv)

Not a general. Don't like chess even. Buy I agree. Industrial combined arms including drones is the future.

This idea that C4ISR and standoff precison munitions can "attrit" a near-peer seems dead.

Volume baby! VOLUME.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 23, 2023 06:35 PM (7fCUo)

227 That video looks like the 8-wheelers had to drop out and get petrol and are on the way back to formation. Or they're lost looking for the pride month decorations for the evening's parade of the pride.

Posted by: micky at June 23, 2023 06:35 PM (3byMq)

228 War Monitor @WarMonitors · 33m
⚡️The most important objects of Moscow have been taken under heavy guard, security measures in the capital have been strengthened, law enforcement agencies told TASS.

And Russian 'Channel One' will soon air a special news release.

It's 01:35 in Moscow right now.

Well, a minute ago anyway.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 06:36 PM (Vwz3I)

229 OceanGate to those calling them to be cautious in 2018, "you just want to stop innovation!"

OceanGate's 'adult' response to one of the industry experts warning them of the dangers in 2018, "our lawyers will contact you to cease and desist."

Guess what OceanGate, Mother Nature is a very very cruel being who doesn't care about your 'innovations'

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 23, 2023 06:36 PM (pal1B)

230 Hmm... Wagner? What kind of a name is that? That ain't no Kraut name is it?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 23, 2023 06:32 PM (R/m4+)

He changed it when he became a citizen. Used to be Merkwurdiglibe.

Posted by: Archer at June 23, 2023 06:36 PM (gmo/4)

231 217 Is the Wagner group the Russians we decimated in Syria when they fired on us?

Posted by: polynikes at June 23, 2023 06:32 PM (W3A8K)

The very same.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 23, 2023 06:33 PM (aD39U)

Wagner is the quite seriously the world's premiere urban assault force. By far.

RUS MoD didn't provide air cover and arty for whatever reason and Wagner got shredded in the open.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 23, 2023 06:37 PM (7fCUo)

232 It's probably proved the US should be building more A10s and B52s.

I'll back A10 part.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 23, 2023 06:37 PM (17s+e)

233 120 112 Not as long as we have our secret signals

*makes wanking motion
*grabs boobs
*wanders off

Posted by: nurse ratched

That was clever, leaving off the 2nd, 4th and 5th signal!

Posted by: Piper at June 23, 2023 06:07 PM (ZdaMQ)
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She was being cautious and kept it clean. Children read this also you know.

Posted by: Ciampino --- Where did all those fucking alpha particles come from? at June 23, 2023 06:38 PM (qfLjt)

234 You'll probably need a solvent. A name brand paint remover or acetone would probably help depending on the paint type that was spilled.
Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine
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I would use solvent as last resort. It depends on the surface roughness, and type of drops. A few big ones I would scrape off w/ sharp object,..

Paint stripper (caustic that swells the paint without dissolving) sometimes works well but is a pain.

Solvents generally just spread it around on a porous surface. That may be OK, but test it first. Dark paint will never be removed with solvent but it will stain the entire area.

angle grinder with wire wheel works (please use safety glasses AND a full face shield) but will leave surface lighter and it takes a couple years to match. but not too bad if you power wash whole area afterward.

Posted by: Former painter at June 23, 2023 06:39 PM (5shJp)

235 Weasel then now is the time to start picking up the Russian language

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2023 06:40 PM (xhxe8)

236 Wagner is the quite seriously the world's premiere urban assault force. By far.

Do they have the EM-50? They can't be the premiere urban assault force if the don't have the EM-50.

Posted by: Archer at June 23, 2023 06:40 PM (gmo/4)

237 Remember, if things go 'hot' the secret code word is: Fun Size Joe Has long butt fur.

Posted by: Weasel at June 23, 2023 06:41 PM (RG6z4)

238 "95 Let me put some knowledge into you, last time there was a "soft coup" when kgb/ fsb removed Yeltsin and replaced him with Putin."

Let me put some knowledge into you. America put Yeltsin into power so they could literally rape the RF for its resources. TIME magazine ran a cover boasting about what they did.

Putin put an end to that imperialist shit.

Posted by: DJS at June 23, 2023 06:41 PM (j4Af6)

239 Vlad: "Joe, how bad do you need a stunning victory right now?"

Joe: "Real bad. How about you?"

Vlad: "Real bad, too. I have an idea, Joe."

Joe: "I'm all ears, whatever that means!"

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 23, 2023 06:41 PM (OqSlY)

240 Wagner is the quite seriously the world's premiere urban assault force. By far.

RUS MoD didn't provide air cover and arty for whatever reason and Wagner got shredded in the open.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 23, 2023 06:37 PM (7fCUo)

Don't bring rifles to a AC130 fight.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 23, 2023 06:42 PM (aD39U)

241 [UKR source] NEXTA @nexta_tv · 9m
GlobalCheck: Russian ISPs have probably started blocking news on Google. Only 25% of users have access to the service.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 06:42 PM (Vwz3I)

242 There was once an American soldier who sat down with a tribal chief in Afghanistan. The soldier was concerned that his men were being attacked by local forces. That soldier knew that nothing would happen in that area without the elder knowing about it. The elder was playing the long game and told the soldier that he, like others before him would eventually be gone, and once again they would live unmolested in their own country. Until then, some might take up arms as they felt it was their duty. The soldier pondered that for a second and said, true, but what good would that be if most of those people weren't around to see it? What would be gained? Unpersuaded, the elder said, honor, which must be preserved at all costs. The soldier replied that he too, had a duty, and honor to protect at all costs, and a warrior code that of many things included to never quit, no matter what it took. That was the end of the conversation.

There were no more attacks after that meeting. The two occasionally had tea and talked about better times, family and the small joys of life.

Sometimes, a mutually beneficial agreement can be made between honorable men. But it takes courage and wisdom.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 23, 2023 06:42 PM (/PTz1)

243 Thank you, new three-letter commenter.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 06:42 PM (Vwz3I)

244 Let me put some knowledge into you. America put Yeltsin into power so they could literally rape the RF for its resources. TIME magazine ran a cover boasting about what they did.

Putin put an end to that imperialist shit.
Posted by: DJS at June 23, 2023 06:41 PM (j4Af6)

Heh.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 23, 2023 06:42 PM (aD39U)

245 [UKR source] NEXTA @nexta_tv · 9m
GlobalCheck: Russian ISPs have probably started blocking news on Google. Only 25% of users have access to the service.

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I'm supposed to be upset at that?

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 23, 2023 06:43 PM (sSzZe)

246 Solvents generally just spread it around on a porous surface

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That's a good point. I was thinking porous and needing it because of absorption, but yeah, it might just make it bigger and slightly faded. Scrape or grind and then patiently wait is a pretty good suggestion.

Posted by: The recovered remains of Hitler's cocaine filled flying submarine at June 23, 2023 06:45 PM (sSzZe)

247 Red Square and Lenin's tomb will be closed to visitors Saturday June 24th per FPS.

This just got real, folks.

Posted by: Archer at June 23, 2023 06:46 PM (gmo/4)

248 237 Remember, if things go 'hot' the secret code word is: Fun Size Joe Has long butt fur.
Posted by: Weasel at June 23, 2023 06:41 PM (RG6z4)

Got it! Watch for my msg!

Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect & speeds the security clearance process. at June 23, 2023 06:47 PM (GshMh)

249 We need to devise a foolproof test for glowies. Some suggestions?

Quick asshoe, name at least five recurring themes at AoS!!

Posted by: Tonypete at June 23, 2023 06:34 PM (q3ANs

The that's actually a pretty good test.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 23, 2023 06:48 PM (BdMk6)

250 165 Popular Science: AAROK is France’s bigger, newer take on the US’s Reaper drone

The drone prototype sports a wingspan of 72 feet. It is designed to carry weapons.

https://tinyurl.com/3pweassz

Via Insty.

Posted by: Robert at June 23, 2023 06:18 PM (FdtYm)
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Nice but ....... is it electric?

Posted by: Ciampino - stop droning at June 23, 2023 06:51 PM (qfLjt)

251 176 I tuned to a rooskie radio station to check for news but they don't have the courtesy to broadcast in English.

Posted by: Weasel at June 23, 2023 06:21 PM (RG6z4)
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Yeah, bloody foreigners!

Posted by: Ciampino -- stop droning at June 23, 2023 06:53 PM (qfLjt)

252 Quick asshoe, name at least five recurring themes at AoS!!
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Just got flashed by two movies -- Slaughter-house Five with the nut berating his best friend for asking Billy Pilgrim a baseball test question the friend didn't know the answer to; and another one I can't recall but an MP [IIRC] hassling a Negro soldier for a password out of bigotry at the Bulge... "How do I know you're not a German?" "Hey, man, there ain't no black Germans."

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 06:54 PM (Vwz3I)

253 Quick asshoe, name at least five recurring themes at AoS!!
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I was told there would be no math on this blog

Posted by: Methos at June 23, 2023 06:56 PM (kOpft)

254 I was told there would be no math on this blog
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Okay. That's one.

Now four more, mo-fo!!!!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 06:57 PM (Vwz3I)

255 People still go to Lenin's tomb?

Posted by: Skip at June 23, 2023 06:57 PM (xhxe8)

256 The balalaika is against the wall

Posted by: DB - at June 23, 2023 06:57 PM (geLO8)

257 205 This all puts me in my natural state of confusion.

Who's fighting who?

Where?

Why?

wut

Posted by: eleven at June 23, 2023 06:29 PM (iziT

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Okay, enough. You've used up your allotment of Ws for today.

Posted by: Ciampino - Stow it 11 at June 23, 2023 07:00 PM (qfLjt)

258 BNO News @BNONews · 17m
Russian state TV airs special news bulletin at 1:30 a.m., calling Wagner leader Prigozhin's allegations "fake"

[Russia's Channel One. I understand they cancelled Hey, Giorgi to air it!]

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 07:00 PM (Vwz3I)

259 People still go to Lenin's tomb?
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They have mummy issues.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 07:01 PM (Vwz3I)

260 Okay. That's one.

Now four more, mo-fo!!!!
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IT WAS FUNNY BECAUSE ONE IS LESS THAN FIVE

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at June 23, 2023 07:01 PM (kOpft)

261 Ugh, thanks, Pixy.

The same joke, but as Amy Schumer.

Posted by: Methos at June 23, 2023 07:03 PM (kOpft)

262 Mystery llama on the loose in Scotland

Posted by: DB - at June 23, 2023 07:07 PM (geLO8)

263 Ugh, thanks, Pixy.

The same joke, but as Amy Schumer.
Posted by: Methos
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LOL

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 07:07 PM (Vwz3I)

264 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper · 50m
BREAKING: TASS says riot police and National Guard scrambling to tighten security at government buildings in Moscow, AP reports

And as reported above...

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper · 28m
BREAKING: Red Square and Lenin Mausoleum will be closed to public on Saturday June 24, orders Russian Federal Protective Service - RIA

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 07:10 PM (Vwz3I)

265 Alas, the thread she is dead.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 23, 2023 07:16 PM (Vwz3I)

266 Wanker Group outta defect to Turkey

Posted by: FooDog at June 23, 2023 10:11 PM (gDFb9)

267 Reddit claims a firefight between Wagner and Rostov National Guard

Posted by: FooDog at June 23, 2023 10:28 PM (gDFb9)

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Posted by: Raegan Kim at June 24, 2023 03:59 AM (yJex0)

269 So, maybe this is where that "accounting error" from the Pentagon went to... paying off Wagner to engage in some shenanigans???

Posted by: Daniel Kunkle at June 24, 2023 06:57 AM (9JdPm)

270

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Posted by: Jack Taylor at June 24, 2023 10:03 AM (jTVK0)

271 Wagner is owned by the FSB, but Shoigu wants it under him.. It would appear that the fight is between factions in the Putin regime.

Whether or not it is anything more is something we will have to wait to see.

Posted by: Quartermaster at June 24, 2023 11:39 AM (J0tKB)

272 There are 1 million Russian troops surrounding Ukraine. Russia has used Wagner and smaller forces to kill 250,000 Ukrainians. Wagner group is nothing. Russia, not Wagner, has destroyed almost every single piece of western equipment in Ukraine. Russia, not Wagner, has the satellites, drones, high tech equipment every bit as lethal as the US.

Putin is far more popular now than he was before the war started. Wagner will be destroyed if that's what's really going on.

This is idiocy, this dreck propaganda from the west.

Posted by: Mooby Diick at June 24, 2023 12:56 PM (TIWfG)

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