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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | Robot Finds "Debris Field" On Ocean Floor In Search for Missing SubIt looks like the worst is confirmed. Almost. The left is in full psychopathic gloat mode, celebrating the deaths of five strangers who never did a single thing to them. Elie Mystal, as J.J. Sefton pointed out in the Morning Briefing, wants to put his enemies on a doomed sub like he's herding undesirables on to trains. The Nation justice correspondent and MSNBC contributor Elie Mystal suggested Supreme Court Associate Justice Samuel Alito be taken on a trip to see the Titanic in a Wednesday tweet. Mystal said a rich elite should take Alito -- the author of the decision overturning Roe v. Wade -- to see the Titanic, the historic ship which hit an iceberg and sank to the depths of the North Atlantic Ocean April 15, 1912. "Next time some rich white person wants to take Sam Alito on an expensive trip, please take him to see the Titanic," Mystal wrote.Via Instapundit, Ben Dreyfuss points out that people who exult in the deaths of others are actual diagnosable psychopaths. He points out that empathy -- an aversion to the suffering of others; feeling that suffering yourself -- is a feature of all normal, sane humans' psychology. But many on the left don't have this -- and insist that they're all the more righteous for being, essentially, Blade Runner Replicants. The abnormal psychopaths, refusing to admit that they are indeed psychopaths, would argue that their empathy machines are, in fact, the ones that are doing the purest evolutionary function. They are caring about people like them because a world that cares about people like them is easier to live in for people like them, and they are a person like them. History has shown us that this can lead to very bad things like war and death and prejudice and those travel adapters you have to bring with you when you go to Europe, but there is a bit of a certain "ok, sure, in some limited ways," you have to hand them. But one of the defining characteristics of normal people is that our empathy machines, fortunately for society, are not so singularly transactional. We care about people even when it isn't immediately obvious that there is something in it for us. The normal people on Monday did what the normal people do. But the abnormal people didn't do that. They heard the news, read the stories, took in all of the information that made you sad, and their first reaction was: anyone who can afford a $250k tourist trip deserves to die.The New Republic suggested that the fact that the CEO of the submersible company donated to Republicans made him deserving of a watery grave. (And I guess the four other people who died deserved that grave as well, just because.) Public campaign finance records indicate that Stockton Rush, the CEO of OceanGate currently stuck on the missing Titan submersible that was running a tourist expedition of the Titanic wreck, has been a consistent Republican donor over the years.Even Snopes is using the tragedy as a convenient club with which to smite its enemies on the right. Leftist obsessives began twittering that Elon Musk might be responsible for the submarine's loss -- because the company used Starlink. TRUE!, said Snopes. Our leftist Twitter obsessives are right again! ![]() The obvious answer is "No!" The company might be [using Starlink], but the submersible? That is literally impossible, given physics. Even the US government uses highly sophisticated technology such as ELF waves or acoustical means to communicate below the surface of the ocean, and for high bandwidth communications cables must be used. That they would even hint that Starlink could somehow be involved is absurd, and anybody with the slightest knowledge of how satellite internet works obviously knows that. Starlink doesn't even work if a tree branch gets in the way of the signal; miles of ocean between the submersible and the satellite would obviously prevent any signal from reaching the sub.And yet Snopes -- official "fact-checkers" used by the media and social media monopolies to decide what stories must be throttled and which users must be deplatformed as "misinformation" spreaders -- checked all the "facts" and pronounced this T R U E. I know what you're thinking -- "Ace, Snopes isn't a hyperpolitical organization! They're official media fact-checkers, Ace! The media has certified them as having no more political bias than the media itself! The media, Ace! The media! Surely they can't all be a bunch of slipshod slapdash know-nothings whose 'fact' checking ability goes no further than quickie searches on Twitter, all envenomed with partisan spite!" I know, I know -- it's all too much to process. And yet. And yet. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:12 PM (LvTSG) 2
I know what you're thinking -- "Ace, Snopes isn't a hyperpolitical organization! They're official media fact-checkers, Ace! The media has certified them as having no more political bias than the media itself! The media, Ace! The media! Surely they can't all be a bunch of slipshod slapdash know-nothings whose 'fact' checking ability goes no further than quickie searches on Twitter, all envenomed with partisan spite!"
======== Just like the Weekly Standard! See, it's even handed! Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:12 PM (LvTSG) 3
The Slants are back on stage!
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 22, 2023 01:13 PM (a/dOO) 4
I'm still here
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 22, 2023 01:13 PM (t/2Uw) 5
3 The Slants are back on stage!
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 22, 2023 01:13 PM (a/dOO) ======== I don't get it. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:13 PM (LvTSG) 6
I was praying for a rescue but I would prefer a quick death rather than running out of air.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 01:13 PM (dKiJG) 7
I'm leaning towards not commenting on this thread.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 22, 2023 01:13 PM (a/dOO) 8
I'm crushed.
Posted by: 50 Yr Old White Guy. at June 22, 2023 01:14 PM (GwxCX) 9
I was praying for a rescue but I would prefer a quick death rather than running out of air.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 01:13 PM (dKiJG) ===== Same. Posted by: Jordan61 at June 22, 2023 01:14 PM (DRSnL) Posted by: ace at June 22, 2023 01:14 PM (KRtlO) 11
A deep-sea robot found a "debris field" while searching for a sub that went missing while carrying five people to the wreckage of the Titanic, the U.S. Coast Guard said Thursday. Experts were evaluating the discovery by the ROV, or remotely operated vehicle.
++++ I am assuming this is distinct from Titanic's own vast debris field. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:14 PM (t0OGg) 12
Top ten?
Blub blub. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 22, 2023 01:14 PM (ufFY8) 13
"Next time some rich white person wants to take Sam Alito on an expensive trip, please take him to see the Titanic," Mystal wrote.
======= I may be a psychopath because I feel nothing regarding the death of a handful of rich people I've never heard of or met, but I'm not so much of a psychopath that my mind even went here. That's just weird. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:14 PM (LvTSG) 14
Dammit.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 22, 2023 01:14 PM (ufFY8) 15
"miles of ocean between the submersible and the satellite would obviously prevent any signal from reaching the sub."
Not if they use 802.11 C. Posted by: fd at June 22, 2023 01:14 PM (iayUP) 16
"The left is in full psychopathic gloat mode, celebrating the deaths of five strangers who never did a single thing to them."
Is that different from the right, which is making dark jokes about the inevitability of their deaths? Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (ou9hh) 17
10 I'm leaning towards pointing out the italics are gone.
Foolishness abounds! Posted by: ace at June 22, 2023 01:14 PM (KRtlO) ======== I get it! Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (LvTSG) 18
How is snopes still relevant?
Haven't they soiled the sheets enough in the past? Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (MeG8a) 19
I got nothin.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (GwxCX) 20
Holland or Netherlands is done
An insane new Housing Act will allow municipalities to force homeowners to sell their homes ONLY to people with a lower to middle income. They will try this crap here, use eminent domain take your house then sell it. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (dKiJG) 21
TJM, The Slants were the Asian band that sued the Patent and Trademark Office for not allowing trademarks of names or phrases that they judged to be prejudicial. It seemed appropriate for the 30 seconds that Ace forgot to close the italics tag.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (a/dOO) 22
The New Republic suggested that the fact that the CEO of the submersible company donated to Republicans made him deserving of a watery grave. (And I guess the four other people who died deserved that grave as well, just because.)
++++ Yup. They're rich, therefore they're evil. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (t0OGg) 23
But Curt Schilling used a metaphor of starting something. Put him on a sub !!
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (o7Evv) 24
I was praying for a rescue but I would prefer a quick death rather than running out of air. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio ============ If there's debris, they must have gotten crushed. That would be a quick death. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2023 01:16 PM (lCaJd) 25
Hey, what if the controller used malfunctioned and they were unable to steer the sub?
Guessing that would be a hypothesis if the Logitech CEO ever donated to a republican. Posted by: Don Lemon at June 22, 2023 01:16 PM (KbCG3) 26
Isn't the sub owner in the sub? Wasn't he the woke guy who said he didn't want to hire 50 yr old white guys?
Why is the left gloating? Their ideology sank their dream. Reality strikes again. Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 22, 2023 01:16 PM (t/2Uw) 27
That Snopes thing was hilarious. They went from true to unconfirmed to false, with multiple edits in between.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2023 01:16 PM (R38qh) 28
I've been trying to avoid this story because, well, I don't want to think about what it was like for those people in the sub.
Posted by: WisRich at June 22, 2023 01:16 PM (G0vdT) 29
>>> 20 Holland or Netherlands is done
An insane new Housing Act will allow municipalities to force homeowners to sell their homes ONLY to people with a lower to middle income. They will try this crap here, use eminent domain take your house then sell it. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (dKiJG) There's No Such Thing as a Slippery Slope and It's a Good Thing We Have It!! Posted by: leftists at June 22, 2023 01:16 PM (llON8) 30
We've been joking about this tragedy around here for the past few days, but I don't think any of us take any actual pleasure in their deaths.
It's a horrible way to go, though hopefully the end was quick and painless. They all knew the risks the moment they set foot in that submersible. May God have mercy on their souls. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2023 01:16 PM (YIVH2) 31
Still time to place bets on giant squid attack.
Posted by: Captain Nemo at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (lZVy/) 32
And yet Snopes -- official "fact-checkers" used by the media and social media monopolies to decide what stories must be throttled and which users must be deplatformed as "misinformation" spreaders -- checked all the "facts" and pronounced this T R U E.
++++ Yup. "Musk owns Starlink. OceanGate uses Starlink. Elon Musk caused the sub to sink." Is this an absurd conclusion? Yes. Is Snopes happy to imply it? Also yes. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (t0OGg) 33
I didn't sleep last night. Multiple times in the wee hours of darkness, I kept thinking about those 5 men trapped in that soup can in pitch blackness. Assuming they didn't die immediately from some kind of vessel breach, I can't imagine the ultimate horror they were (I believe they are dead) experiencing. It's really the stuff of nightmares. Let the left dance jigs on their graves because they were wealthy and one happened to donate to Republicans. I expect no less from that sorry bunch of vermin and scum.
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (sVtYq) 34
"They heard the news, read the stories, took in all of the information that made you sad, and their first reaction was: anyone who can afford a $250k tourist trip deserves to die."
I was sad to read commenters here with the same hot take. Mine was "those people have a screwed up assessment of risk" but then the combination of claustrophobia and fear of drowning makes sure I never get on a sub or go cave-diving. Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (xhaym) 35
Where is Admiral ManInDress when we need him?
Posted by: Captain Nemo at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (lZVy/) 36
I know what you're thinking -- "Ace, Snopes isn't a hyperpolitical organization! They're official media fact-checkers, Ace! The media has certified them as having no more political bias than the media itself! The media, Ace! The media! Surely they can't all be a bunch of slipshod slapdash know-nothings whose 'fact' checking ability goes no further than quickie searches on Twitter, all envenomed with partisan spite!"
++++ This is either deeply sarcastic or Ace doesn't know his audience. Let's send it to Snopes for a review! Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (t0OGg) Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (ufFY8) 38
Is that different from the right, which is making dark jokes about the inevitability of their deaths? Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (ou9hh) I haven't made those jokes, though there have been plenty here. But yes, it's different. Gallows humor can be tasteless, but it's humor. It's a far cry from actually wanting the submarine to crack up and kill everyone inside. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (oINRc) 39
Can you imagine how dark your heart must be to think this way? What horrible lives they must lead.
Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (ZdaMQ) 40
Willowed, relevant:
380 Watching a bit of the latest teevee news about the lost submersible, I understand how LIVs can be so un-informed and dumb. The misinformation, wild speculation, and concerns this fatal accident will "halt innovation we need to survive," dispensed by news actors and actresses, can help no one understand the situation. Hoolee Fook. Posted by: Gref at June 22, 2023 01:14 PM (AMIL/) Posted by: Gref at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (AMIL/) 41
Navy retired ELF in 2004 (they use VLF now). A hydrophone was on board for comms, but nothing had been heard since Sunday.
This ending was inevitable. The company used acrylic for their window not polycarb. After 4 dives the stress was too much and material fatigue set in. At least it would have been over in an instant. Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (l7Kbv) 42
32 Yup. "Musk owns Starlink. OceanGate uses Starlink. Elon Musk caused the sub to sink."
Is this an absurd conclusion? Yes. Is Snopes happy to imply it? Also yes. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (t0OGg) ========= Does the sub use Microsoft Outlook for their emails? Bill Gates did it! Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (LvTSG) 43
Concur with the others. If a debris field was found, that indicates possibly a quick catastrophic failure (and therefore death of the passengers). To me, that is much preferable to slowly running out of oxygen.
May the souls of the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace. Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (a/dOO) 44
HO-GAN! What is Corporal DeBris doing at the bottom of the ocean!?
Posted by: Colonel Klink at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (XxsGT) 45
I certainly hope Merrick Garland sends a SWAT team to pick up Elon Musk for this. He's clearly guilty of murder.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (brAQZ) 46
>>A deep-sea robot found a "debris field" while searching for a sub that went missing while carrying five people to the wreckage of the Titanic
Being that the Submersible was the size of a small SUV, I find it incredible that they found a discernible debris field so quickly. Well, their souls will now haunt the wreck of The Titanic for eternity and they will become an entry in the history books. On the pluses and minuses, there are worse fates. RIP Crew of the fateful Submersible. Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (up/3i) 47
If it imploded, it was quick- something I won't wish for the leftist scum celebrating a tragedy like this or any other.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (rH1KZ) 48
I still think it was a publicity stunt
Posted by: REDACTED at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (us2H3) 49
Snopes trying to walkback the Starlink lie in screencaps...
Noam Blum 🚡 @neontaster Worth its own tweet. The evolution of a Snopes story. https://tinyurl.com/wfv4c4mp Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (Vwz3I) 50
He points out that empathy -- an aversion to the suffering of others; feeling that suffering yourself -- is a feature of all normal, sane humans' psychology.
One of the points of training for new recruits was getting them to the point where they could kill the enemy. It turns out normal human beings don't want to directly kill enemy soldiers if they are not, themselves, in immediate danger. But somehow Soviet America has produced whole cities full of people with no compunction about murdering others for trivial reasons. Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2023 01:19 PM (lc5cP) 51
Stockton Rush might have donated to the GOP over the years (probably for political influence), but he is no conservative or Republican. He duckspoke DEI gibberish right up until the disaster.
He bragged that he didn't hire qualified ex-military guys to pilot the sub. He said they would be 50-something men, and that wasn't "inspirational" enough. So he hired unqualified diversity candidates for this life-or-death mission. Genius. The guy also made some shockingly stupid comments on safety -- or the lack thereof -- of the sub and its mission. He will be sued into oblivion. I'll be playing the world's smallest violin for him. Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 01:19 PM (iFTx/) 52
Dems are monsters.
This is really sad and should never have happened. But people do stupid things and that does not mean humanity should celebrate possible death. Posted by: Czech Chick at June 22, 2023 01:19 PM (WDJHJ) 53
@47
>>If it imploded, it was quick- something I won't wish for the leftist scum celebrating a tragedy like this or any other. Their deaths were instantaneous, they felt no pain. Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2023 01:19 PM (up/3i) 54
From last night's ONT:
Well that song by Simone Simons (Epica) has lyrics in accordance with our theme on subs, water, etc. Here's one version with lyrics. https://youtu.be/7846FlDP8GA Beautiful voice AND a redhead to boot! Posted by: Ciampino - Water, water everywhere, and all the boards did shrink at June 22, 2023 01:19 PM (qfLjt) 55
Snopes got Community Notes'd and generally beat like a pinata on Twitter and changed from True to Not Sure to False in the space of a few hours.
Musk talking about suing them into oblivion may have helped. Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2023 01:19 PM (ZGrMX) 56
There are some people whose deaths I have celebrated and those I will celebrate. Not these people. However it appears from what little we know that they died from the owner valuing wokeness over sound engineering, proper fabrication, and testing for catastrophic failure before getting other people to pay him to risk their lives.
Posted by: But white middle aged engineers are BORING! at June 22, 2023 01:19 PM (AJ2DX) 57
Where is Admiral ManInDress when we need him?
Posted by: Captain Nemo at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (lZVy/) ++++ When would we possibly need him? Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:20 PM (t0OGg) 58
makes me think of the people who were in the elevators at the world trade center when the planes hit and the elevators stalled.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 22, 2023 01:20 PM (B1FKF) 59
26 Isn't the sub owner in the sub? Wasn't he the woke guy who said he didn't want to hire 50 yr old white guys?
Why is the left gloating? Their ideology sank their dream. Reality strikes again. Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 22, 2023 01:16 PM (t/2Uw) Yes, they hired some 50 white guy and he told them the Sub was unsafe and they fired him, he sued for wrongful termination they settled They didn't use Steel they used Carbon Fiber instead which is untested at those depts. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 01:20 PM (dKiJG) 60
The Cosmos is speaking killing 3 noted billionaires with the first Titanic sinking (we got the Federal Reserve) and now I bet the number is 2 billionaires on the sub without checking my work. Or 3.
Posted by: Eagle Lips at June 22, 2023 01:20 PM (453+A) 61
Can we be comforted knowing the passengers died doing something they loved/wanted to do?
Not everyone gets to try their dream. Posted by: Seems Legit. at June 22, 2023 01:20 PM (DcKNO) 62
I'm crushed.
Posted by: 50 Yr Old White Guy. at June 22, 2023 01:14 PM (GwxCX) ......... We should squash this story. Posted by: wth at June 22, 2023 01:21 PM (v0R5T) 63
Ain’t never going into space. Ain’t never going under the sea. Not even scuba diving.
Man is a terrestrial creature, and I mean to live my life in accordance with that biological fact. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 22, 2023 01:21 PM (6Mj+v) Posted by: REDACTED at June 22, 2023 01:21 PM (us2H3) 65
By the way "Mr Snopes" aka David Mikkelson doesn't write most of the content any more.
Years ago he hired his mistress/dominatrix to take over the site. And...Mrs Mikkelson found out which is why they got divorced Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2023 01:21 PM (lc5cP) 66
... The guy also made some shockingly stupid comments on safety -- or the lack thereof -- of the sub and its mission. He will be sued into oblivion. I'll be playing the world's smallest violin for him.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 01:19 PM (iFTx/) ++++ Wasn't he on the boat? The company might get sued, but I think he's beyond the influence of the courts. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:21 PM (t0OGg) 67
Snopes went from: "we're unbiased, non-partisan, and non-political" to "don't blame us if truth has a liberal bias" to "you're goddam right we're activist partisan Democrats and proud of it!" in a matter of years. But it was pretty obvious all along.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 22, 2023 01:21 PM (YQ4mh) 68
Well that song by Simone Simons (Epica) has lyrics in accordance with our theme on subs, water, etc. Here's one version with lyrics.
https://youtu.be/7846FlDP8GA Beautiful voice AND a redhead to boot! Epica is great. "The Skeleton Key" showed up in one of Rick Beato's "let's see if the hard rock chart on Spotify sucks" videos and I've been listening to their stuff ever since. Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2023 01:21 PM (ZGrMX) 69
The damn Titanic is still killing rich white people over 100 years after it sank!
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 01:21 PM (iFTx/) 70
66 Wasn't he on the boat? The company might get sued, but I think he's beyond the influence of the courts.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:21 PM (t0OGg) ========= Still going to vote, though. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:21 PM (LvTSG) 71
Are there any leftists who are decent human beings?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at June 22, 2023 01:21 PM (aCNZ6) 72
... This ending was inevitable. The company used acrylic for their window not polycarb. After 4 dives the stress was too much and material fatigue set in. ...
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (l7Kbv) ++++ They really used acrylic for a deep-sea vessel? Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (t0OGg) 73
They didn't use Steel they used Carbon Fiber instead which is untested at those depts.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 01:20 PM (dKiJG) PV = nRT? Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (ufFY8) 74
63 Ain’t never going into space. Ain’t never going under the sea. Not even scuba diving.
Man is a terrestrial creature, and I mean to live my life in accordance with that biological fact. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 22, 2023 01:21 PM (6Mj+v) why God invented TV Posted by: REDACTED at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (us2H3) 75
Watching a bit of the latest teevee news about the lost submersible, I understand how LIVs can be so un-informed and dumb. The misinformation, wild speculation, and concerns this fatal accident will "halt innovation we need to survive," dispensed by news actors and actresses, can help no one understand the situation. Hoolee Fook. Posted by: Gref at June 22, 2023 01:14 PM (AMIL/) ========== When you consider that expert witness who vehemently testified to Congress that no man can possibly beat Serena or Venus Williams, when that very event (203-ranked male) is the FIRST HIT ON GOOGLE, it becomes more clear. They just don't do their homework. They don't rely on facts. It's all notions, beliefs, sentiments. But remember, it's the right that's hostile to science. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (lCaJd) 76
And now we plumb the depths of the left's psychopathy
Posted by: No not a plum, PLUMB at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (AJ2DX) 77
In the matrix the Left uses to determine what group of people deserve which rights, it is simple: the more money/wealth you have, the fewer rights you have. If they could enact the Nuremberg Laws against every single American that makes a penny above per capita income, they would, without hesitation.
The Left’s celebration of the demise of this sub is not surprising. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (FbcWf) 78
"But yes, it's different. Gallows humor can be tasteless, but it's humor. It's a far cry from actually wanting the submarine to crack up and kill everyone inside."
Okay. That's what I thought, but I'm kind of sleep-deprived and that does funny things to one's perceptions. I fully expect that within the next few days somebody, probably nominally on the right, but definitely left-curious, will start condemning the right for those jokes, while ignoring the left's outright murderousness. Because the sun also rises in the east. Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (ou9hh) 79
Are there any leftists who are decent human beings?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at June 22, 2023 01:21 PM (aCNZ6) ++++ No. Liberals, sure. Not leftists. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (t0OGg) 80
Might as well blame their cell phone carriers.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (9UlRk) 81
The guy also made some shockingly stupid comments on safety -- or the lack thereof -- of the sub and its mission. He will be sued into oblivion. I'll be playing the world's smallest violin for him.
He was on the sub, so good luck suing him. Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (ZGrMX) 82
>>>(I believe they are dead)
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (sVtYq) At least you are dressed for it Posted by: bed head at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (Y1sOo) 83
The Sea is a Bitch who is just waiting to kill you.
Most don't know this simple fact, but those of us who sailed the Seas as an occupation, learn this. Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (oHd/0) 84
makes me think of the people who were in the elevators at the world trade center when the planes hit and the elevators stalled.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 22, 2023 01:20 PM (B1FKF) --- That would also be a horrible, horrible death. Trapped, surrounded by a burning building, and then being squashed when the entire building above you collapses. *shudder* It's truly a miracle that *only* about 3,000 people died in the Towers that day. It could have been so much worse. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (YIVH2) 85
They didn't use Steel they used Carbon Fiber instead which is untested at those depts. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at And thinner plexiglass than recommended. Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (ZdaMQ) 86
Time for some really low jokes?
Posted by: wth at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (v0R5T) 87
This ending was inevitable. The company used acrylic for their window not polycarb. After 4 dives the stress was too much and material fatigue set in.
At least it would have been over in an instant. Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (l7Kbv) Reportedly. the company also fired the guy who warned them that the carbon fiber they were using in the hull was of insufficient quality and could begin to separate after repeated pressure cyclings. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (VXWhT) 88
It's occurred to me, these caitiffs wishing death and torture on others have largely never seen war or death up close. Meaning they are the same people who have not only historically destroyed societies, but are also the one who start conflicts and cause the large scale suffering of others.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (SAX5G) 89
"full psychopathic gloat mode"
I made a couple of comments on the absurdity of the situation, and I'm not proud of it. It's just that this isn't a genuine Voyage Of Exploration or scientific expedition. It's basically a high-priced carny amusement ride. This incident makes me think about the huge mess and graveyard on top of Mt Everest, where every gomer with fat stax can go pay to go kill himself if he wants. Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (MvF+J) 90
I never quite understood the disdain or lack of sympathy for the people killed here. The fact that they have fuck you money doesn't change my opinion one way or another.
People with a lot of money live in a different world than me. Posted by: Don Lemon at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (KbCG3) 91
66 ... The guy also made some shockingly stupid comments on safety -- or the lack thereof -- of the sub and its mission. He will be sued into oblivion. I'll be playing the world's smallest violin for him.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 01:19 PM (iFTx/) ++++ Wasn't he on the boat? The company might get sued, but I think he's beyond the influence of the courts. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:21 PM (t0OGg) __________________ Was he? I thought he was making comments on the loss of the sub? Other than that rich Brit who was on board, I'm not sure who else was on board. Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (iFTx/) 92
Ben Dryfuss is only half right, as having empathy for communist is also a sign of being a psychopath, so all we should hope for them is a long trip off a high helicopter.
The left had made it widely known how they would round us all up and send us to die because of our race and our beliefs, therefore I have no issue doing the same to them. Posted by: Rbastid at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (t3UbZ) 93
@59
>>They didn't use Steel they used Carbon Fiber instead which is untested at those depts. There are times you can cheap out, going into a 0 psi or 5000 psi environment is not one of them. Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (up/3i) Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (9UlRk) 95
68: wait til you see them live. Damn, I love Epica. “The Obsessive Devotion” is still my fave by them.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (FbcWf) 96
[company co-founder]Guillermo Sohnlein said the group may have extended their life support supplies by "relaxing as much as possible."
He sounds 'inspiring'. I'm sure they were relaxing. Posted by: t-bird at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (Sv58p) 97
Posted earlier, as was "My money is on the experimental vessel wasn't tested in between trips":
"CBS News journalist David Pogue, who traveled to the Titanic aboard the Titan last year, said the vehicle uses two communication systems: text messages that go back and forth to a surface ship and safety pings that are emitted every 15 minutes to indicate that the sub is still working. Both of those systems stopped about an hour and 45 minutes after the Titan submerged." https://tinyurl.com/23qjbn2m I don't know how widely that was reported, but I suspect they knew they were gone at the 2 hour mark. Hopefully it was a quick crush and not a fire or slow leak. Posted by: The Ghost of Keeeeev at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (k1L5r) 98
>>Ain’t never going into space. Ain’t never going under the sea. Not even scuba diving.
the basement scares me Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (geLO8) Posted by: John Fetterman at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (5hfjS) 100
I prayed so many times for the people on that sub over the past few days. I wish they could have been saved, but I am relieved that it appears they did not suffer. There's nothing to celebrate about this, certainly from a political perspective.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 22, 2023 01:24 PM (YQ4mh) 101
Noam Blum 🚡 @neontaster Worth its own tweet. The evolution of a Snopes story. https://tinyurl.com/wfv4c4mp Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (Vwz3I) Someone should start 'snopescanblowme.com' and do ACTUAL fact checking. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 01:24 PM (Zz0t1) 102
20 Holland or Netherlands is done
An insane new Housing Act will allow municipalities to force homeowners to sell their homes ONLY to people with a lower to middle income. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (dKiJG) Get ready for hereditary passing of real estate, even if the family hasn't lived there for years. Not to mention the transfer (not sale!) of real estate assets to trusts and other indefinite life bodies that hold the properties in question forever. Finally, can you say "rental" agreements that look suspiciously like mortgages? This will only exacerbate a housing crunch in those countries. Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 22, 2023 01:24 PM (a/dOO) 103
86 Time for some really low jokes?
Posted by: wth at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (v0R5T) I was just about to chime in Posted by: Charlie the Tuna at June 22, 2023 01:24 PM (us2H3) 104
>Both of those systems stopped about an hour and 45 minutes after the Titan submerged."
so how deep might they have been at that point? Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 01:24 PM (geLO8) 105
The (fifty-year) Old (white) Man And The Sea.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (ufFY8) 106
77 In the matrix the Left uses to determine what group of people deserve which rights, it is simple: the more money/wealth you have, the fewer rights you have. If they could enact the Nuremberg Laws against every single American that makes a penny above per capita income, they would, without hesitation.
The Left’s celebration of the demise of this sub is not surprising. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 The Soros family is in that “free” square. Posted by: Piper at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (ZdaMQ) 107
73 They didn't use Steel they used Carbon Fiber instead which is untested at those depts.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio The Oceangate website seems to indicate they performed this exact dive two years ago. Posted by: Just the fax at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (bWzdd) 108
He was on the sub, so good luck suing him.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (ZGrMX) They'll sue his estate and his company. You can still go after a man's assets from beyond the grave. Posted by: And there will be lawsuits at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (AJ2DX) 109
While it can be creepy to think about, if you've read enough naval history, you'll know their fate just isn't uncommon. And not just for submariners. The crews of surface ships, when they sink, are often trapped. Just how it is.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (brAQZ) 110
This ending was inevitable. The company used acrylic for their window not polycarb. After 4 dives the stress was too much and material fatigue set in.
-- That sounds suspiciously like white male thinking. Posted by: The Ghost of Keeeeev at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (k1L5r) 111
I'm curious, how do you distinguish a separate debris field in the vicinity of the Titanic? Or maybe it was a little further away. That gets me to wondering if those people ever even saw the Titanic. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (lCaJd) 112
This ending was inevitable. The company used acrylic for their window not polycarb. After 4 dives the stress was too much and material fatigue set in. ...
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (l7Kbv) ++++ They really used acrylic for a deep-sea vessel? Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (t0OGg) --- *shakes head* "Shoulda used transparent aluminum." -- Chief Engineer Montgomery Scott Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (YIVH2) 113
90 I never quite understood the disdain or lack of sympathy for the people killed here. The fact that they have fuck you money doesn't change my opinion one way or another.
People with a lot of money live in a different world than me. Posted by: Don Lemon at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (KbCG3) ======= I require emotional connection with a person to feel much regarding their passing. I'd never heard of these people. Their deaths don't affect me. If a school chum I haven't heard from in 20 years was on it, I'd feel something. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (LvTSG) 114
62 I'm crushed.
Posted by: 50 Yr Old White Guy. at June 22, 2023 01:14 PM (GwxCX) ......... We should squash this story. Posted by: wth at June 22, 2023 01:21 PM (v0R5T) The outrage is Epic... maybe even... Titanic? Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (oHd/0) Posted by: Jared Fogle at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (us2H3) 116
I may agree/disagree with the world viewpoint of all 5 on the submersible but I don't/wouldn't want them to die. They have families and friends and this type of psychopathic glee is truly the worst. I wouldn't want that to happen to Biden or his fellow travelers as much as I despise them. To run out of oxygen and start to suffocate is truly horrible and hope that whatever end they came to happened quickly.
Mystal, you big load, you better never go in the water. You'd be shark bait that a Great White could feast on for a few days. Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (oiNtH) 117
It's good that Harvard affirmative action graduate Elie Mystal takes the time every so often to remind everyone that he's a giant piece of shit with a car wash mop for a head.
Posted by: Azathoth at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (wb1YC) 118
Starlink has been used by Ukraine to do surveillance and targeting of Russians by Zelensky. Of course, we, the taxpayers cover the cost of Starlink cuz This Is Not Who We Are!
Posted by: Pudinhead at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (LQjWA) 119
The CEO is on record stating safety was not a priority. He is also very proud of his diversity hires....no 50 plus white men for us! I feel terrible for these people and their families but they wanted thrills and adventure. I am all for risk taking but knowing these facts (even though the CEO did go on this trip) one may want to think twice.
Posted by: Charlotte the sailor at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (XFQlR) Posted by: m at June 22, 2023 01:26 PM (ASp1y) 121
The Oceangate website seems to indicate they performed this exact dive two years ago.
-- And that's the problem. Posted by: The Ghost of Keeeeev at June 22, 2023 01:26 PM (k1L5r) 122
The upshot is, it sounds like it cracked up. They were probably snuffed out nearly instantly. They may not have even fully realized what was happening before they were mauled to pieces. The real horror is just sitting there with less and less air for days. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2023 01:26 PM (oINRc) 123
Can we be comforted knowing the passengers died doing something they loved/wanted to do?
Not everyone gets to try their dream. Posted by: Seems Legit. at June 22, 2023 01:20 PM (DcKNO) I'd rather have the opportunity to brag about it afterwards, if it is all the same to you. Death is inevitable, and it is coming for us all. I am getting very tired of dealing with it, and I am aware it is just starting and is going to screw with all of us. Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2023 01:26 PM (xhaym) Posted by: Ahnold at June 22, 2023 01:26 PM (Angsy) 125
We had a good conversation in a thread last night about the mismatch of materials like carbon fiber and titanium, something not rated for this type of submersible, that probably contributed to a catastrophic failure and the crew and passengers were most likely already deceased. At the reported depth, you would probably be dead before you knew what happened.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 22, 2023 01:26 PM (SAX5G) 126
112: especially since the technology has existed since 1987.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 22, 2023 01:26 PM (FbcWf) 127
"The company used acrylic for their window not polycarb."
Could they actually see anything through seven inches of acrylic at that depth? Did they have adequate lighting? Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (MvF+J) 128
I'm in the "you pays your money, you takes your chances" category when people do this extreme stuff expensively and voluntarily.
Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (7zEAH) 129
Wait, Snopes got something wrong? The company still run by the guy with the most punchable face in the United States, the one who co-founded Snopes with that lump he was married to, then embezzled money from it, and married a hooker and made her part of the company?
The only reason this guy and his joke of a company is a going concern is because the only way to fail with the Left is upward. I wouldn't believe Snopes if you set them on fire and they said they were warm. Posted by: Azathoth at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (wb1YC) 130
While it can be creepy to think about, if you've read enough naval history, you'll know their fate just isn't uncommon. And not just for submariners. The crews of surface ships, when they sink, are often trapped. Just how it is.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (brAQZ) --- There was a Russian sub that went dark several years ago. Like today, there were heroic efforts made to try and rescue the sailors. In the end, when they found the sub, it turned out everyone was dead and had been for some time. Poseidon claims his due. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (YIVH2) 131
31 Still time to place bets on giant squid attack.
Posted by: Captain Nemo at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (lZVy/) You know... maybe it's the Kraken.. Has anyone seen Sydney Powell lately? Posted by: Inogame at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (53oGX) 132
I'm a squished sub
Posted by: Shep at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (us2H3) 133
@104
>>so how deep might they have been at that point? It takes about two hours to descend, so it was mostly descended when it lost contact. So you can surmise they probably either imploded after losing contact or descended to the wreck and imploded. Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (up/3i) 134
Can we be comforted knowing the passengers died doing something they loved/wanted to do?
-- Yeah, it's like the "Kennedy Curse" Oh, he died in a private plane crash. Oh, he died snow-skiing at the exclusive private whatever. That's not a curse. That's the life of a rich person. I will never die that way. Posted by: The Ghost of Keeeeev at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (k1L5r) 135
My neighbors refer to my yard as a "debris field".
Posted by: Sloppy Poppy at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (Nn3xT) 136
After all the woke crapola the CEO has spouted I'm not buying the Republican doner line.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (kzHlT) 137
But somehow Soviet America has produced whole cities full of people with no compunction about murdering others for trivial reasons.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2023 01:19 PM (lc5cP) Minor quibble: Soviet America has produced whole cities full of people willing to call for other people to murder "undesirables" for trivial reasons. These same people will eventually be shocked at discovering that they have become undesirables. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (VXWhT) 138
>>I never quite understood the disdain or lack of sympathy for the people killed here. The fact that they have fuck you money doesn't change my opinion one way or another.
Okay while the loss of innocent life is regrettable at the very least, I have slightly less sympathy for those whose foolhardiness contributed to their demise. Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (geLO8) 139
Well, I, for one, hope that the affirmative action deaths of these people leads to the actual death of affirmative action.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 01:28 PM (Zz0t1) 140
136 After all the woke crapola the CEO has spouted I'm not buying the Republican doner line.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (kzHlT) ======== He donated to Mitch McConnell!* *probably Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:28 PM (LvTSG) 141
How despicable to celebrate the possible death because he donated to republicans at one time... What have we become ?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 22, 2023 01:28 PM (bs+z0) 142
131 31 Still time to place bets on giant squid attack.
Posted by: Captain Nemo at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (lZVy/) I'm in Posted by: Richard Basehart at June 22, 2023 01:28 PM (us2H3) 143
In other news.....
My hay field has been raked. Hopefully they can bale it before it rains again. My cousin causes it to rain every time they cut hay. We needed rain. My corn field is stunted from lack of rain. Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 22, 2023 01:28 PM (Wy1BU) 144
122 Concur.
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 22, 2023 01:28 PM (MvF+J) 145
I require emotional connection with a person to feel much regarding their passing. I'd never heard of these people. Their deaths don't affect me.
If a school chum I haven't heard from in 20 years was on it, I'd feel something. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (LvTSG) I'm with you but I'm not going to Nelson Muntz laugh at them. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 22, 2023 01:28 PM (KbCG3) 146
I never quite understood the disdain or lack of sympathy for the people killed here. The fact that they have fuck you money doesn't change my opinion one way or another.
-- FWIW, I don't take any pleasure in the deaths. I'm going to make fun of the diversity aspect until the cows come home, though. Posted by: The Ghost of Keeeeev at June 22, 2023 01:29 PM (k1L5r) 147
They really used acrylic for a deep-sea vessel?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (t0OGg) The CEO even commented that it would give them a crackle if it was going to go. Yeah, about a quarter second before it failed. During a previous dive one of the passengers saw the window deform by three quarters of an inch. No way acrylic can do that multiple times and retain its strength. Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 22, 2023 01:29 PM (l7Kbv) 148
I heard that Apollo 13 was using Starlink for communications, too.
And the Titanic relied on Starlink for early iceberg warnings. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 22, 2023 01:29 PM (3vbXJ) 149
company co-founder]Guillermo Sohnlein said the group may have extended their life support supplies by "relaxing as much as possible."
Relax. We're stuck at 12,000 feet in a little black tube with no air. Tijuana Sub Repair should be here soon. Posted by: Captain Glub at June 22, 2023 01:29 PM (v0R5T) 150
93 @59
>>They didn't use Steel they used Carbon Fiber instead which is untested at those depts. There are times you can cheap out, going into a 0 psi or 5000 psi environment is not one of them. Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (up/3i) _____________ Carbon Fiber is much more expensive and exotic than steel, and probably was more impressive to the ultra-rich passengers. CF is also much stronger than steel. But it doesn't bend or deform like steel. It shatters. Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 01:29 PM (iFTx/) 151
I'm in the "you pays your money, you takes your chances" category when people do this extreme stuff expensively and voluntarily.
Posted by: huerfano at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (7zEAH) "They BOUGHT their tickets. They KNEW what they were getting INto......" Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 01:29 PM (Zz0t1) 152
The guy also made some shockingly stupid comments on safety -- or the lack thereof -- of the sub and its mission. He will be sued into oblivion. I'll be playing the world's smallest violin for him.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 01:19 PM (iFTx/) He was aboard the sub. He won't, personally, be sued. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2023 01:29 PM (VXWhT) 153
Poseidon claims his due.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (YIVH2) It's Neptune, you backdoor Greek! Posted by: Romulus at June 22, 2023 01:29 PM (ufFY8) 154
136 After all the woke crapola the CEO has spouted I'm not buying the Republican doner line.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (kzHlT) ------- Yes, pretty incongruent. Posted by: Seems Legit. at June 22, 2023 01:29 PM (DcKNO) 155
And from what I read, the sub was never tested at depth. That alone whispers death wish.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 22, 2023 01:29 PM (kzHlT) 156
145 I'm with you but I'm not going to Nelson Muntz laugh at them.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 22, 2023 01:28 PM (KbCG3) ======== Neither am I, but there's still gallows humor to be found here and there without laughing directly at the people who died. I like gallows humor. It entertains me. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:29 PM (LvTSG) 157
The real horror is just sitting there with less and less air for days.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2023 01:26 PM (oINRc) ===== All while being in a confined space where you don't even have room to stretch out your legs. Posted by: Jordan61 at June 22, 2023 01:29 PM (DRSnL) 158
Who the fu*k is Elie Mystal and why should I care?
Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2023 01:29 PM (e4fEA) 159
Are there any leftists who are decent human beings?
Posted by: That Northernlurker ------ See above re psychopaths. Even street-level Democrats suffer from this. Their psyches are damaged. They are incapable of self-examination, and bereft of any ability for objective judgment. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2023 01:30 PM (qlgfj) 160
The upshot is, it sounds like it cracked up. They were probably snuffed out nearly instantly. They may not have even fully realized what was happening before they were mauled to pieces.
The real horror is just sitting there with less and less air for days. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2023 01:26 PM (oINRc) ---------- Was going to say the same, just not as articulately. Posted by: ShainS -- Opression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 22, 2023 01:30 PM (+z+6a) 161
2 it's even handed!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:12 PM (LvTSG) Ahem: it's even-handed! Posted by: m at June 22, 2023 01:30 PM (ASp1y) 162
I guess getting squished in a sub is one of those "stupid prizes"
Posted by: REDACTED at June 22, 2023 01:30 PM (us2H3) 163
You don't tug on Superman's cape
Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 01:30 PM (geLO8) 164
My new hobby is going to be posing as an "expert" in every field with a different name each time and feeding news vomiters info that's laughably wrong just to see what makes it on screen.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2023 01:30 PM (9UlRk) 165
If I had the Money I would love to go into Space, I would love to orbit around the Moon and see it up close.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 01:30 PM (dKiJG) 166
161 2 it's even handed!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:12 PM (LvTSG) Ahem: it's even-handed! Posted by: m at June 22, 2023 01:30 PM (ASp1y) ======= Hyphens are white supremacy. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:30 PM (LvTSG) 167
I'll keel you
Posted by: the Ocean at June 22, 2023 01:30 PM (us2H3) 168
So you can surmise they probably either imploded after losing contact or descended to the wreck and imploded.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (up/3i) Or hit bottom, or a rock... the added stress of any collision at that depth would shatter the hull. Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2023 01:30 PM (oHd/0) 169
I require emotional connection with a person to feel much regarding their passing. I'd never heard of these people. Their deaths don't affect me.
If a school chum I haven't heard from in 20 years was on it, I'd feel something. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (LvTSG) I'm with you but I'm not going to Nelson Muntz laugh at them. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 22, 2023 01:28 PM (KbCG3) --- Agreed. We can all bow our heads for a moment for the needless loss of human life, but if we don't have an emotional connection to any of the people onboard, it's fairly easy to shrug and move on with our lives. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2023 01:31 PM (YIVH2) 170
they had to find a way to create a link with Repubs. they have no empathy for anyone. they can mask it by claiming it's all evil MAGA
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 22, 2023 01:31 PM (ouTlx) Posted by: garrett at June 22, 2023 01:31 PM (0PkWs) 172
Hey, I almost lost a sub once!!!
Posted by: Jussie Smullett at June 22, 2023 01:31 PM (N39Ws) 173
16 "The left is in full psychopathic gloat mode, celebrating the deaths of five strangers who never did a single thing to them."
Is that different from the right, which is making dark jokes about the inevitability of their deaths? Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (ou9hh) Yes, that is different. The right is deploying gallows humor. Posted by: m at June 22, 2023 01:31 PM (ASp1y) 174
Another idiot taking a page from Snopes in the Insider Paper twatt...
mikeo188 @mikeo188 Elon is proud of his starlink tho Ballsack @Ballsack1488 · 5h The sub didn’t have a starlink receiver CryptoYeager.xrp @crypto_mule_ · 4h Starlink isn’t meant for underwater use 👍 Censorthispodcast @Censorthispodc2 · 5h MSN you dumb karancartwright @KaranCarwright · 4h They didn't use starlink. 🙄 Leave Elon alone. Troller Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 22, 2023 01:31 PM (Vwz3I) 175
Hey look, there's a crack in the win
Posted by: All she wrote at June 22, 2023 01:31 PM (iayUP) 176
This all could have been avoided if someone took the controller and tried up-down-up-down-left-right-left-right-B-A-select-start.
Posted by: I Stand with No One at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (osaBc) 177
All while being in a confined space where you don't even have room to stretch out your legs. Posted by: Jordan61 -------- Very little light, cold, and I have no idea about nourishment, or waste. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (qlgfj) 178
The CEO even commented that it would give them a crackle if it was going to go. Yeah, about a quarter second before it failed.
During a previous dive one of the passengers saw the window deform by three quarters of an inch. No way acrylic can do that multiple times and retain its strength. Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 22, 2023 01:29 PM (l7Kbv) Not with THAT kind of attitude! Posted by: Screw engineering, we have magical thinking! at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (AJ2DX) 179
169 Agreed. We can all bow our heads for a moment for the needless loss of human life, but if we don't have an emotional connection to any of the people onboard, it's fairly easy to shrug and move on with our lives.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2023 01:31 PM (YIVH2) ======== I'm more weirded out by people who descend into a puddle of tears at the headline of someone dying on the other side of the world. I always think it's fake posturing, and if it's not fake posturing... Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (LvTSG) 180
If a school chum I haven't heard from in 20 years was on it, I'd feel something. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (LvTSG) I had a school 'chum' that I helped out after school with a job or 2 later in life who turned into a psycho dickhead. I later found out he was actually on that 'poopie cruise' where the ship was stranded for 2 weeks at sea. I referenced karma being a bitch at some point...... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (Zz0t1) 181
130 Perfessor, I think you’re referring to the Kursk.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (6Mj+v) 182
I know I'm a psychopath because I know how I'll react when Biden--any Biden--dies.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (H9sxy) 183
Carbon Fiber is much more expensive and exotic than steel, and probably was more impressive to the ultra-rich passengers.
-- +1. More than a few of the people wealthy enough to pay for the trip would probably wonder why the sub was made of something common like steel (that anyone could buy) when their personal cars were made of carbon fiber. Posted by: The Ghost of Keeeeev at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (k1L5r) 184
"I require emotional connection with a person to feel much regarding their passing. I'd never heard of these people. Their deaths don't affect me"
Same. A person only has so much compassion to go around, and the TV people make a lot of money convincing people to waste their compassion on "feeling for" people that they'll never meet and can't help. Which means that there's little to none left for people that you will meet and can help. And then you say "I can't be bothered, let the government do something," and everything goes to Hell. Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (ou9hh) 185
>>I'm with you but I'm not going to Nelson Muntz laugh at them.
When you are risking life and limb to go 'explore' something known and more or less modern... I can laugh. Posted by: garrett at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (0PkWs) 186
This all could have been avoided if someone took the controller and tried up-down-up-down-left-right-left-right-B-A-select-start.
Posted by: I Stand with No One ----- Ah! A hard system reset. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (qlgfj) 187
Posted in wrong thread by mistake:
It sounds to me as if Stockton Rush probably contributed to Democrats too: Quotes from "The Other McCain" website: Since the Titan Five went missing, a two-year-old Zoom interview with Stockton Rush has gone viral, in which he indicates he prioritized diversity and youth over experience when hiring people.“When I started the business, one of the things you’ll find, there are other sub operators out there, but they typically have gentlemen who are ex-military submariners, and you’ll see a whole bunch of 50-year-old white guys,” Rush told Teledyne Marine in the interview. “I wanted our team to be younger, to be inspirational, and I’m not going to inspire a 16-year-old to go pursue marine technology. But, a 25-year-old, you know, who’s a sub pilot or a platform operator or one of our techs can be inspirational. ” However, I'm sorry for the people who died and their families and I think giving money to fund a trip to see the Titanic is preferable to giving money to say-Adam Schiff .Anyway. It's their money, after all, I can even begin to imagine how or ex wife feels in that her husband and son both died in this accident. Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (Keyt1) 188
"During a previous dive one of the passengers saw the window deform by three quarters of an inch."
Jeez! Did they mention it to anybody at the time? WTF? Seven-inch thick disk deformed 0.75in! Did it come even close to returning near flat again when surfaced? Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (MvF+J) Posted by: fags at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (us2H3) Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (q3ANs) Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (ufFY8) 192
Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper
NEW: Simpsons writer Mike Reiss says Titanic submarine ‘almost always lost communication’ on previous dives he took with the company ||He admitted although it was a "beautiful experience" he was aware death "hung over him" at all times. The 63-year-old told The Sun: "I've taken three different dives with the company and every time communication was an issue."|| sock link Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (Vwz3I) 193
Why not the best?
Guess we know what she got in return --> Randi Weingarten appointed to council advising DHS Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (FVME7) 194
42 32 Yup. "Musk owns Starlink. OceanGate uses Starlink. Elon Musk caused the sub to sink."
Is this an absurd conclusion? Yes. Is Snopes happy to imply it? Also yes. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (t0OGg) ========= Does the sub use Microsoft Outlook for their emails? Bill Gates did it! Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (LvTSG) Windows 7 Posted by: Inogame at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (53oGX) 195
In the matrix the Left uses to determine what group of people deserve which rights, it is simple: the more money/wealth you have, the fewer rights you have. If they could enact the Nuremberg Laws against every single American that makes a penny above per capita income, they would, without hesitation.
The Left’s celebration of the demise of this sub is not surprising. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (FbcWf) Although there would be a significant exemption list for the oligarchs they obey, the "artists" they elevate, etc. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (VXWhT) 196
"so how deep might they have been at that point?
Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 01:24 PM (geLO ![]() The reported depth of the Titanic is 12,500 feet. The trip down was reported to take 10 hours. So roughly given a constant rate of descent, they were about 2,187.5 feet at the time of incident. Posted by: Marcus T at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (SAX5G) 197
173 16 "The left is in full psychopathic gloat mode, celebrating the deaths of five strangers who never did a single thing to them."
Is that different from the right, which is making dark jokes about the inevitability of their deaths? Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (ou9hh) Yes, that is different. The right is deploying gallows humor. Posted by: m at June 22, 2023 01:31 PM (ASp1y) Humor is a means of coping with death, which is inherently an uncomfortable and stressful topic. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (eYoxG) 198
During a previous dive one of the passengers saw the window deform by three quarters of an inch.
-- o_O And they took it down for another trip. Posted by: The Ghost of Keeeeev at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (k1L5r) 199
Who the fu*k is Elie Mystal and why should I care?
** Imagine if you ordered Al Sharpton from wish.com. Posted by: Azathoth at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (wb1YC) 200
@171
>>Seems like an insane waste of resources and risk to go looking for these people. True, but this impulse is what separates us from other forms of life. Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (up/3i) 201
Trite but true. The sea is an unforgiving mistress.
Posted by: Charlotte the sailor at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (XFQlR) 202
1500 souls were lost on that ship. The wreck site is a mass grave.
Yet there are those who feel they're entitled to desecrate that site, just because it's on their bucket list and they have the money to do it. Let those souls rest, please. Posted by: Gran at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (GM3/s) 203
Here is a nice characteristic of steel: it fails gradually and gives warning before total failure. Plastics not so much.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (kzHlT) 204
“I have information that will lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton.” -OceanGate’s submarine Titan
Posted by: Crazy to be sane at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (HwsTH) 205
But it doesn't bend or deform like steel. It shatters. Posted by: Elric Blade =========== Hasn't anyone consulted Rosie O'Donnell about this? Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (lCaJd) 206
Holland or Netherlands is done
An insane new Housing Act will allow municipalities to force homeowners to sell their homes ONLY to people with a lower to middle income. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (dKiJG) ——————- Guess the Dutch didn’t get enough of the nazis the first time. Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (u73oe) 207
Seems like an insane waste of resources and risk to go looking for these people.
Posted by: garrett at June 22, 2023 01:31 PM (0PkWs) As mentioned earlier, I hope the billionaire's trust fund is being tapped for the costs of this bullshit. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (Zz0t1) 208
Could they actually see anything through seven inches of acrylic at that depth? Did they have adequate lighting?
-- I saw a photo of a selfie taken by one of the paying customers (Spanish sounding name) who went on the OceanGate excursion to the Titanic a couple years ago. It's him in the selfie, with the acrylic port showing the bow of the ship. It was amazingly clear. Posted by: Lady in Black at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (sVtYq) 209
Well at least we still have the AP wire service.
Posted by: Zek at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (5FPX4) 210
I'm going down before I hit bottom
Posted by: the curious captain at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (us2H3) 211
After all the woke crapola the CEO has spouted I'm not buying the Republican doner line.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 22, 2023 01:27 PM (kzHlT) ++++ Why not? Buying power is buying power. Most Republican politicians agree with it all anyway. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (t0OGg) 212
156: what doesn’t kill you gives you unhealthy coping mechanisms and a dark sense of humor.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (FbcWf) 213
32 "Musk owns Starlink. OceanGate uses Starlink. Elon Musk caused the sub to sink."
Is this an absurd conclusion? Yes. Is Snopes happy to imply it? Also yes. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (t0OGg) S(tarl)ink has "sink" right in the name! Posted by: m at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (ASp1y) 214
191 I'll keel you
Posted by: the Ocean at June 22, 2023 01:30 PM (us2H3) Ok, dammit. I LOLed. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (ufFY ![]() Go fuck yourselves. Posted by: Doug Marcaida at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (AJ2DX) 215
Does the sub use Microsoft Outlook for their emails? Bill Gates did it!
-- It was that paperclip bastard. Posted by: The Ghost of Keeeeev at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (k1L5r) Posted by: Moss from the IT Crowd at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (9UlRk) 217
If you can turn computers into a human consciousness -AI, can you turn human consciousness into empathy lacking machine like lack solipsism?
*checks results of obvious long running planet wide experiment* Posted by: YIKES! at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (sh1GZ) 218
Mirroe report:
||A Simpsons writer who went on the missing Titanic submarine has admitted death "hung over him" constantly during his visit to the wreckage. Mike Reiss, a former producer and writer on The Simpsons, went on OceanGate's tour of the Titanic wreckage in 2022, along with his wife, on the same vessel that is missing after vanishing 370 miles off the coast of Newfoundland, Canada on Sunday. [...] Pakistani British-based businessman Shahzada Dawood and his 19-year-old son, Sulaiman Dawood, were confirmed to be on the submersible. British billionaire adventurer Hamish Harding is also in the vessel, along with French submersible pilot Paul-Henry Nargeolet, and chief executive and founder of OceanGate Expeditions, Stockton Rush. And now Mr Reiss revealed the vessel kept losing communication and had navigation issues - and even got lost near the bow of the shipwreck.|| Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 22, 2023 01:35 PM (Vwz3I) 219
This ending was inevitable. The company used acrylic for their window not polycarb. After 4 dives the stress was too much and material fatigue set in. ..
'Fatigue'?! What's that? Posted by: Chief Designer commenting thru his Xbox at June 22, 2023 01:35 PM (CaJIi) 220
Agreed. We can all bow our heads for a moment for the needless loss of human life, but if we don't have an emotional connection to any of the people onboard, it's fairly easy to shrug and move on with our lives.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2023 01:31 PM (YIVH2) Trust me, pretty much every case where a crime or tragedy such as this dominates the national news, my first thought is, "Why does anyone give two shits about this?" Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 22, 2023 01:35 PM (KbCG3) 221
Man, it has been a *long* time since I saw the original Blade Runner. Time to get it from the library.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2023 01:35 PM (J2vNu) 222
I fully expect that within the next few days somebody, probably nominally on the right, but definitely left-curious, will start condemning the right for those jokes, while ignoring the left's outright murderousness.
Because the sun also rises in the east. Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 22, 2023 01:22 PM (ou9hh) You're talking about me, aren't you. Posted by: D French Pastor of the First Self Righteous Church of Pascagoula at June 22, 2023 01:35 PM (Angsy) 223
I view this like mountaineering. It was an inherently risky activity, so I won't mourn them overmuch. They either appreciated the risks or were fools. But celebrating their deaths seems demented. An unnecessary tragedy maybe but still a tragedy. And I get the basic impulses and motivations of the people involved. Pretty human, and nit necessarily in bad ways.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 22, 2023 01:35 PM (ppBhU) Posted by: Bill Paxton at June 22, 2023 01:36 PM (us2H3) 225
33 Multiple times in the wee hours of darkness, I kept thinking about those 5 men trapped in that soup can in pitch blackness..
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (sVtYq) Ew. I hadn't though about the "pitch blackness" part. Posted by: m at June 22, 2023 01:36 PM (ASp1y) 226
*insert standard Cur rant about commie cocksuckers and kneeling Kulaks here* Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2023 01:36 PM (n+4am) 227
WE'RE GOING TO DIE
Posted by: Moss from the IT Crowd at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (9UlRk) ===== Damn, beat me to it. Posted by: Jordan61 at June 22, 2023 01:36 PM (DRSnL) 228
Does the sub use Microsoft Outlook for their emails? Bill Gates did it!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:18 PM (LvTSG) Windows 7 Posted by: Inogame at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (53oGX) Yeah, you know that new big Windows 11 update? uhhhh... Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2023 01:36 PM (oHd/0) 229
@171 >>Seems like an insane waste of resources and risk to go looking for these people. True, but this impulse is what separates us from other forms of life. Posted by: Thomas Bender ======== There's a pragmatic response, too. Search-and-rescue equipment and procedures need to be tested. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 22, 2023 01:36 PM (lCaJd) 230
And they took it down for another trip.
Posted by: The Ghost of Keeeeev at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (k1L5r) ++++ Or they replaced the window. I dunno what the post-dive maintenance routine was. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:36 PM (t0OGg) 231
How deep is your love?
Posted by: A Bee Gee at June 22, 2023 01:36 PM (ufFY8) 232
More people get murdered in Chicago every weekend.
Posted by: fd at June 22, 2023 01:36 PM (iayUP) Posted by: spindrift at June 22, 2023 01:36 PM (ivvNA) 234
“I wanted our team to be younger, to be inspirational.."
You wanted Atlas Shrugged. You got Atlas Snubbed. Posted by: Zek at June 22, 2023 01:36 PM (5FPX4) 235
"I guess getting squished in a sub is one of those "stupid prizes"
Actually, when a sub implodes at depth before squishing, drowning, whatever, comes burning - as the atmosphere inside the sub ignites after the pressure increases due to the hull buckling. Posted by: CtHillary, dead but dreaming at June 22, 2023 01:36 PM (zSyrn) 236
>>> 188 "During a previous dive one of the passengers saw the window deform by three quarters of an inch."
Jeez! Did they mention it to anybody at the time? WTF? Seven-inch thick disk deformed 0.75in! Did it come even close to returning near flat again when surfaced? Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (MvF+J) Measuring performance is rayciss. Posted by: inspirational engineers at June 22, 2023 01:37 PM (llON8) 237
224 a fucking sequel and I have to be dead
fuck me Posted by: Bill Paxton at June 22, 2023 01:36 PM (us2H3) ======== "Fuck you, Bill. I was going to make you blue and 10 feet tall in Avatar 27!" -Jim Cameron, just...the worst manager of writers Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:37 PM (LvTSG) 238
@196
>>The reported depth of the Titanic is 12,500 feet. The trip down was reported to take 10 hours. So roughly given a constant rate of descent, they were about 2,187.5 feet at the time of incident. The entire length of the trip from submerging to resurfacing was scheduled to take 10 hrs, the descent was scheduled to take two hours with a 4 hours tour of the wreck and a 2 hour ascent. They lost contact with the surface an hour and 45 minutes into their 2 hour descent, so they were mostly to their target depth when shit went sideways. Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2023 01:37 PM (up/3i) Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 01:37 PM (geLO8) 240
Mine was "those people have a screwed up assessment of risk" but then the combination of claustrophobia and fear of drowning makes sure I never get on a sub or go cave-diving.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (xhaym) The cenotes of the Yucatán was as far into cave diving I ever wanted. The nice thing about the cenotes is there were always escapes overhead. Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 22, 2023 01:37 PM (BdMk6) 241
If you want to get to the real root cause here, start eyeballing Webb and Stanwyck.
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 22, 2023 01:37 PM (MvF+J) 242
[company co-founder]Guillermo Sohnlein said the group may have extended their life support supplies by "relaxing as much as possible."
He sounds 'inspiring'. I'm sure they were relaxing. Posted by: t-bird at June 22, 2023 01:23 PM (Sv58p) Yeah, it takes a special type of person to chill when you're trapped underwater and hoping for rescue. I doubt that all the people onboard had that quality and it only required one to panic. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2023 01:37 PM (VXWhT) 243
1. I suspect that debris fields are pretty common near the wreck of the Titanic.
2. HTF can a "fact-checker" not know that satellite radio signals won't penetrate miles of seawater?! Snopes, facts for dopes. Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 22, 2023 01:37 PM (OqSlY) 244
Yeah, you know that new big Windows 11 update? uhhhh...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2023 01:36 PM (oHd/0) Now everyone you know and their mother in law can know that you're dying at the bottom of the ocean. Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2023 01:37 PM (9UlRk) 245
AP TOP HEADLINES
San Francisco displays the largest ever pink triangle for Pride month in a stand against pushback by: HAVEN DALEY, Associated Press Posted: Jun 22, 2023 / 10:09 AM PDT https://tinyurl.com/78kbj3rx SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The giant canvas pink triangle that is one of the LGBTQ+ community’s Pride month symbols in San Francisco is bigger than ever this year. Volunteers said they are taking a stand for their rights amid a national pushback from conservative lawmakers. The pink triangle was used by Nazis during the Holocaust to identify the thousands of gay prisoners who were thrown into concentration camps. Later, gay rights advocates adopted the emblem and turned it into a symbol of love and solidarity. Organizers said recent legislation that has sought to limit their rights, including Florida’s so-called “Don’t Say Gay” law banning classroom instruction about sexual orientation, make the pink triangle especially relevant this year. "Our lives are very under threat right now, particularly Black and brown transgender people," said volunteer Maureen Futtner. "And I just feel like I need to be active and out and proud." Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at June 22, 2023 01:37 PM (MFZ8i) 246
If debris field features a rainbow flag we will at least know it is a recent field.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2023 01:37 PM (vrN+N) 247
189 subs on the bottom
mmmmmm Posted by: fags at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (us2H3) Guess that's why it's called a Grindr. Posted by: No heroes here at June 22, 2023 01:38 PM (AJ2DX) 248
I guess not even Snopes figured they could maintain the absurdity. HotAir reporting that Snopes has completely reversed itself.
Posted by: McLurkerson at June 22, 2023 01:38 PM (wNDOJ) 249
Here is a nice characteristic of steel: it fails gradually and gives warning before total failure. Plastics not so much.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM This. Posted by: Young's Modulus at June 22, 2023 01:39 PM (a3Q+t) 250
212 156: what doesn’t kill you gives you unhealthy coping mechanisms and a dark sense of humor.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (FbcWf) Yeah, if that which does not kill you makes you stronger? I should be SuperMan by now. Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2023 01:39 PM (oHd/0) 251
Who the fu*k is Elie Mystal and why should I care?
** Imagine if you ordered Al Sharpton from wish.com. Posted by: Azathoth at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (wb1YC) *** Sheesh. Looked him up. What a complete and total asshole. Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2023 01:39 PM (e4fEA) 252
"During a previous dive one of the passengers saw the window deform by three quarters of an inch."
Jeez! Did they mention it to anybody at the time? WTF? Seven-inch thick disk deformed 0.75in! Did it come even close to returning near flat again when surfaced? Posted by: Peel gp A Grape -- There's only one window and everyone is pretty much sitting in the back of a pickup truck with a tall camper shell. https://tinyurl.com/2ona5c7p EVERYONE knew the window had warped. Posted by: The Ghost of Keeeeev at June 22, 2023 01:39 PM (k1L5r) 253
+1. More than a few of the people wealthy enough to pay for the trip would probably wonder why the sub was made of something common like steel (that anyone could buy) when their personal cars were made of carbon fiber.
Posted by: The Ghost of Keeeeev at June 22, 2023 01:32 PM (k1L5r) I remember when Elon Musk tried to use Carbon Fiber for SpaceX kept running into problems using it and it was just easier less expensive to use Steel because it's proven but Steel is heavier Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 01:39 PM (dKiJG) 254
I can't imagine how terrible it must have been for those people knowing they were going to die (assuming the sub didn't just suddenly implode as has been suggested was very possible).
That said, I also can't help but feel they died of stupidity. Assuming reports are true (I know that's a big leap these days), the vessel was very much untested/uncertified, yet they climbed in it and went 2 miles underwater anyway. Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at June 22, 2023 01:39 PM (oxSjI) 255
The Oceangate website seems to indicate they performed this exact dive two years ago.
Posted by: Just the fax at June 22, 2023 01:25 PM (bWzdd) The ocean is patient. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2023 01:39 PM (VXWhT) 256
More people get murdered in Chicago every weekend.
-- Speaking of...Mr. Black works in claims for a very large, very well known insurance company. He was just reviewing a claim today from his home office and I heard him chuckle a little. He said he was reviewing a claim from Chicago. The facts: "vehicle was hit by several stray bullets while parked." What a toddlin' town! Posted by: Lady in Black at June 22, 2023 01:39 PM (sVtYq) 257
The pink triangle was used by Nazis during the Holocaust to identify the thousands of gay prisoners who were thrown into concentration camps.
Wait......I'm going to need a fact check on this one...... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 01:39 PM (Zz0t1) 258
MSNBC and CNN are obviously leftist scumbags but we'll see how scummy they actually are if they continue to put Mystal on air. He writes at The Nation and they're a vile bunch of commies but they only talk to other vile commies so he's still good there
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 22, 2023 01:39 PM (W1/AW) 259
During a previous dive one of the passengers saw the window deform by three quarters of an inch.
....... Shoulda called Safelight. Posted by: wth at June 22, 2023 01:39 PM (v0R5T) 260
Had to remove the mouse ball and clean out the fuzz?
Is that why it sank? Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (ufFY ![]() Something probably went wrong with the game controller and nobody had the right Torx wrench to fix it. Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 22, 2023 01:40 PM (ZSK0i) 261
That hash is golden.
😅😅😅 Posted by: Eagle Lips at June 22, 2023 01:40 PM (453+A) 262
S(tarl)ink has "sink" right in the name!
Posted by: m at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (ASp1y) You can't spell Starlink without s-i-n-k. That proves it was Elon's fault. Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at June 22, 2023 01:40 PM (oxSjI) 263
RIP to those on that sub. Regardless of who they were. May their end have been mercifully fast.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 22, 2023 01:40 PM (iHAQn) 264
"Joe Biden isn't responsible for high gas prices but Elon Musk is responsible for a deep sea submersible failing and killing everyone on board."
- people whose brains have the friction coefficient of Teflon. Posted by: Azathoth at June 22, 2023 01:40 PM (wb1YC) 265
... Organizers said recent legislation that has sought to limit their rights, including Florida’s so-called “Don’t Say Gay” law banning classroom instruction about sexual orientation, make the pink triangle especially relevant this year. ...
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at June 22, 2023 01:37 PM (MFZ8i) ++++ It has to do with kids in public school, bro, not *you.* It has nothing to do with you, nor does it have anything to do with your rights. Unless there is an intersection between "you" and "kids" that you'd like to tell us about. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:41 PM (t0OGg) 266
"There's only one window and everyone is pretty much sitting in the back of a pickup truck with a tall camper shell."
I wouldn't want to be in there for 10 minutes, much less 10 hours. Posted by: fd at June 22, 2023 01:41 PM (iayUP) 267
Or they replaced the window. I dunno what the post-dive maintenance routine was.
- Them windows is expensive, yo! - The Person of Personality hired for his personality Posted by: The Ghost of Keeeeev at June 22, 2023 01:41 PM (k1L5r) 268
[iSeems like an insane waste of resources and risk to go looking for these people.
Posted by: garrett at June 22, 2023 01:31 PM (0PkWs) predicated on the thought that the next time it might be us Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2023 01:41 PM (xhaym) 269
That said, I also can't help but feel they died of stupidity. Assuming reports are true (I know that's a big leap these days), the vessel was very much untested/uncertified, yet they climbed in it and went 2 miles underwater anyway.
Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at June 22, 2023 01:39 PM (oxSjI) Which begs the question, did they know that going in? Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 22, 2023 01:41 PM (KbCG3) 270
"can you turn human consciousness into empathy lacking machine like lack solipsism?"
Having seen young children, I'm pretty sure that's what all humans start out as and it takes diligent training to make them anything but. Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 22, 2023 01:41 PM (ou9hh) 271
Holland or Netherlands is done
An insane new Housing Act will allow municipalities to force homeowners to sell their homes ONLY to people with a lower to middle income. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (dKiJG) Get ready for hereditary passing of real estate, even if the family hasn't lived there for years. Not to mention the transfer (not sale!) of real estate assets to trusts and other indefinite life bodies that hold the properties in question forever. Finally, can you say "rental" agreements that look suspiciously like mortgages? This will only exacerbate a housing crunch in those countries. Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 22, 2023 01:24 PM (a/dOO) Or sell it to the dudes wife, or kid, who has no official income. Posted by: Oldcat at June 22, 2023 01:41 PM (eoQWY) 272
#218 "Mirror report" The Daily Mirror, that is.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 22, 2023 01:41 PM (Vwz3I) 273
51 He duckspoke DEI gibberish right up until the disaster.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 01:19 PM (iFTx/) "Duckspoke"? Posted by: m at June 22, 2023 01:42 PM (ASp1y) 274
Holland or Netherlands is done
An insane new Housing Act will allow municipalities to force homeowners to sell their homes ONLY to people with a lower to middle income. They will try this crap here, use eminent domain take your house then sell it. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (dKiJG) I was thinking Holland, Ohio when you said this in the last thread. Posted by: clutch at June 22, 2023 01:42 PM (9UmRs) Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2023 01:42 PM (ZLI7S) 276
That said, I also can't help but feel they died of stupidity. Assuming reports are true (I know that's a big leap these days), the vessel was very much untested/uncertified, yet they climbed in it and went 2 miles underwater anyway.
Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at June 22, 2023 01:39 PM (oxSjI) Which begs the question, did they know that going in? Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 22, 2023 01:41 PM (KbCG3) i'm sure they all knew there was some risk, more than an airline flight, but it seems clear that the CEO was blind to how risky he had made it by his own actions before the trip. Posted by: Oldcat at June 22, 2023 01:42 PM (eoQWY) 277
Holland or Netherlands is done An insane new Housing Act will allow municipalities to force homeowners to sell their homes ONLY to people with a lower to middle income. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (dKiJG) Guess the Dutch didn’t get enough of the nazis the first time. Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 22, 2023 01:34 PM (u73oe) One thing that gets glossed over is that lots of the Dutch were definitely Nazi-enthusiastic. Enough so that they ran their own concentration camps without much prodding from the Germans. They also had one of the more effective resistance networks in occupied Europe, so it certainly wasn't a universal thing among the Clog-Hoppers. So no, this new housing law doesn't exactly surprise me. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2023 01:43 PM (n+4am) 278
Get ready for hereditary passing of real estate, even if the family hasn't lived there for years. Not to mention the transfer (not sale!) of real estate assets to trusts and other indefinite life bodies that hold the properties in question forever. Finally, can you say "rental" agreements that look suspiciously like mortgages? This will only exacerbate a housing crunch in those countries.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 22, 2023 01:24 PM (a/dOO) ++++ Or they just ban private sales or transfers without approval. Best jump on those kinds of dodges right now. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:43 PM (t0OGg) 279
What are the odds this cage fight between Musk and Zuckerberg will actually happen?
I sure would love to see it happen. Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2023 01:43 PM (R38qh) 280
Nick Sortor @nicksortor #BREAKING SUB UPDATE: A friend of two of the men missing aboard the titanic sub has CONFIRMED the debris found today was a “landing frame and rear cover from the submersible” after receiving a WhatsApp message LIVE on Sky News Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2023 01:43 PM (NpAcC) 281
The real horror is just sitting there with less and less air for days.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 22, 2023 01:26 PM (oINRc) Where there is life, there is hope. Hope that someone with a plan, and the necessary equipment, can reach you before your ill-considered time runs out. Then you fall asleep and never wake up. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2023 01:43 PM (VXWhT) 282
"Duckspoke"? Posted by: m at June 22, 2023 01:42 PM (ASp1y) You got sssome problem withpp thpppat? Posted by: Daffy at June 22, 2023 01:43 PM (Zz0t1) 283
I wouldn't want to be in there for 10 minutes, much less 10 hours.
Posted by: fd at June 22, 2023 01:41 PM (iayUP) ===== I wouldn't want to be in there for 10 minutes even if it was sitting on dry f*cking land and I could get out anytime I wanted. Posted by: Jordan61 at June 22, 2023 01:43 PM (DRSnL) 284
Dust off the burning skull. Add a crack pipe.
https://tinyurl.com/mr2nbk8k Posted by: JackStraw --- hahaha, there's a great comment there: @NYT in the event there is a journalist around. Posted by: The Ghost of Keeeeev at June 22, 2023 01:43 PM (k1L5r) 285
If I had the Money I would love to go into Space, I would love to orbit around the Moon and see it up close.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio William Shatner had a very emotional response after his voyage into space. "I'm so filled with emotion about what just happened. I just, it's extraordinary, extraordinary. I hope I never recover from this. I hope that I can maintain what I feel now. I don't want to lose it." He also talked about how cold and lifeless space was in contrast to the beauty of the blue/green earth and it forever changed him.. Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2023 01:44 PM (oiNtH) 286
271 Holland or Netherlands is done
An insane new Housing Act will allow municipalities to force homeowners to sell their homes ONLY to people with a lower to middle income. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 01:15 PM (dKiJG) Get ready for hereditary passing of real estate, even if the family hasn't lived there for years. Not to mention the transfer (not sale!) of real estate assets to trusts and other indefinite life bodies that hold the properties in question forever. Finally, can you say "rental" agreements that look suspiciously like mortgages? This will only exacerbate a housing crunch in those countries. Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 22, 2023 01:24 PM (a/dOO) Or sell it to the dudes wife, or kid, who has no official income. Posted by: Oldcat at June 22, 2023 01:41 PM (eoQWY) Just Marry your parents LOVE IS LOVE so you can by pass the Tax laws Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 01:44 PM (dKiJG) 287
Nick Sortor
@nicksortor #BREAKING SUB UPDATE: A friend of two of the men missing aboard the titanic sub has CONFIRMED the debris found today was a “landing frame and rear cover from the submersible” after receiving a WhatsApp message LIVE on Sky News Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2023 01:43 PM (NpAcC) In other words, dey shark shit. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 01:44 PM (Zz0t1) Posted by: The Ghost of Keeeeev at June 22, 2023 01:44 PM (k1L5r) 289
the friction coefficient of Teflon.
Posted by: Azathoth at June 22, 2023 01:40 PM Tribology isn't very inspiring to most folks, it seems. Posted by: Old White Engineer at June 22, 2023 01:44 PM (a3Q+t) 290
Which begs the question, did they know that going in?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 22, 2023 01:41 PM (KbCG3) i'm sure they all knew there was some risk, more than an airline flight, but it seems clear that the CEO was blind to how risky he had made it by his own actions before the trip. Posted by: Oldcat at June 22, 2023 01:42 PM (eoQWY) Inherent risk is one thing. Being either mislead or straight up lied to about the safety of a particular thing is another. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 22, 2023 01:44 PM (KbCG3) 291
My dad was disappointed I didn't go into the Navy and on subs like he did.
I told him that A, diving in a ship is doing half the enemy's work for him; and B, subs are like tanks...everything designed to kill them, kills them. Very few wounded in a sub. Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2023 01:45 PM (e4fEA) 292
William Shatner had a very emotional response after his voyage into space.
"I'm so filled with emotion about what just happened. I just, it's extraordinary, extraordinary. I hope I never recover from this. I hope that I can maintain what I feel now. I don't want to lose it." He also talked about how cold and lifeless space was in contrast to the beauty of the blue/green earth and it forever changed him.. Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2023 01:44 PM (oiNtH) Well, when your wife mysteriously drowns in your backyard pool, you ain't gettin' in no submarine. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 01:45 PM (Zz0t1) 293
24 "If there's debris, they must have gotten crushed. That would be a quick death."
Yep, as someone said, you would be dead before you even realized it. OTOH, I read that running out of O2 would be like falling asleep, not like choking. Anyway, RIP. Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 22, 2023 01:45 PM (OqSlY) Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 22, 2023 01:45 PM (MvF+J) 295
"Duckspoke"?
Posted by: m at June 22, 2023 01:42 PM (ASp1y) ++++ So did the fact of having very few words to choose from. Relative to our own, the Newspeak vocabulary was tiny, and new ways of reducing it were constantly being devised. Newspeak, indeed, differed from most all other languages in that its vocabulary grew smaller instead of larger every year. Each reduction was a gain, since the smaller the area of choice, the smaller the temptation to take thought. Ultimately it was hoped to make articulate speech issue from the larynx without involving the higher brain centres at all. This aim was frankly admitted in the Newspeak word 'duckspeak,' meaning ‘to quack like a duck’. Like various other words in the B vocabulary, 'duckspeak' was ambivalent in meaning. Provided that the opinions which were quacked out were orthodox ones, it implied nothing but praise, and when the Times referred to one of the orators of the Party as a 'doubleplusgood duckspeaker' it was paying a warm and valued compliment. -- "The Principles of Newspeak" (appendix to '1984') Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:45 PM (t0OGg) 296
A woke DEI progressive donated to the R party? Yeah right.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 22, 2023 01:46 PM (9RRW+) 297
"The entire length of the trip from submerging to resurfacing was scheduled to take 10 hrs, the descent was scheduled to take two hours with a 4 hours tour of the wreck and a 2 hour ascent.
They lost contact with the surface an hour and 45 minutes into their 2 hour descent, so they were mostly to their target depth when shit went sideways." So revised math; - About 10,937.5 feet at time of incident. - coincidentally, I believe one of the former employees I believe said the maximum depth for that craft was ~3,000 meters or 9842.5 feet. 🤔 Posted by: Marcus T at June 22, 2023 01:46 PM (SAX5G) 298
What they should have loaded that sub and skuttled with the wreck of the Titanic, was ALL the existing copies of that gay ass Film
Posted by: garrett at June 22, 2023 01:46 PM (0PkWs) 299
Ah yes. Good day to be a couple hundred feet above sea level.
Posted by: wth at June 22, 2023 01:46 PM (v0R5T) 300
Which begs the question, did they know that going in?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 22, 2023 01:41 PM (KbCG3) One of the passengers is Paul-Henri Nargeolet, who worked for IFREMER and made several dives between 1987-1996. He worked with the company that was salvaging the wreck and bringing up artifacts. He most of all should've known better (I would've hoped, anyway) than to step one foot into that Rube Goldberg contraption. Posted by: Gran at June 22, 2023 01:46 PM (GM3/s) 301
#BREAKING SUB UPDATE They may want to rethink using that hashtag.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 22, 2023 01:46 PM (suTg5) 302
270 "can you turn human consciousness into empathy lacking machine like lack solipsism?"
Having seen young children, I'm pretty sure that's what all humans start out as and it takes diligent training to make them anything but. Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 22, 2023 01:41 PM (ou9hh) Keep in mind empathy and sympathy are two different things. Empathy reflects and detects a sensation and is a key component of sadism. Lack of empathy would typically have a corresponding lack of comprehension. The presence of empathy doesn't mean there'll be compassion though. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 22, 2023 01:46 PM (eYoxG) 303
The Daily Daddario has begun to think of her own mortality in the wake of this Titanic event:
https://is.gd/8V7pIC Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 01:46 PM (LvTSG) 304
Rep Jason Smith:
Press conference: IRS whistleblower says Hunter Biden hid $2.2 million unreported tax, large diamond and a Porsche DOJ has intervened in IRS recommendations Posted by: SMOD at June 22, 2023 01:46 PM (RHGPo) 305
During a previous dive one of the passengers saw the window deform by three quarters of an inch. No way acrylic can do that multiple times and retain its strength.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 22, 2023 01:29 PM (l7Kbv) Yeah, lots of references to hull compression in submarine movies. You'd think that's something they'd take into account. Maybe not, though. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2023 01:46 PM (VXWhT) 306
OceanGate = Can Eat Ego
Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 01:47 PM (geLO8) 307
William Shatner had a very emotional response after his voyage into space.
"I'm so filled with emotion about what just happened. I just, it's extraordinary, extraordinary. I hope I never recover from this. I hope that I can maintain what I feel now. I don't want to lose it." He also talked about how cold and lifeless space was in contrast to the beauty of the blue/green earth and it forever changed him.. Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2023 01:44 PM (oiNtH) The second book I read was Earth to the Moon, loved the idea of going into space Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 01:47 PM (dKiJG) 308
- coincidentally, I believe one of the former employees I believe said the maximum depth for that craft was ~3,000 meters or 9842.5 feet
-- What's the worst that could happen? Posted by: The Ghost of Keeeeev at June 22, 2023 01:47 PM (k1L5r) 309
I wouldn't want to be in there for 10 minutes even if it was sitting on dry f*cking land and I could get out anytime I wanted.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 22, 2023 01:43 PM You might be if delicious deep-fried bacon was being delivered on the regular. Just sayin'. Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2023 01:47 PM (a3Q+t) 310
A woke DEI progressive donated to the R party? Yeah right.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 22, 2023 01:46 PM (9RRW+) When you can buy congress people for 10 grand, you give to both parties to get what you need. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 01:47 PM (Zz0t1) 311
58 makes me think of the people who were in the elevators at the world trade center when the planes hit and the elevators stalled.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 22, 2023 01:20 PM (B1FKF) Yikes. Posted by: m at June 22, 2023 01:47 PM (ASp1y) 312
You might be if delicious deep-fried bacon was being delivered on the regular. Just sayin'. Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2023 01:47 PM (a3Q+t) But she'd be the one delivering it...... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 01:47 PM (Zz0t1) 313
Has Lefty James Cameron come to the CEO’s defense or is he letting leftist psychopathy control him like the rest of them?
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2023 01:48 PM (MNhXM) 314
>>Rep Jason Smith:
>>Press conference: IRS whistleblower says Hunter Biden hid $2.2 million unreported tax, large diamond and a Porsche DOJ has intervened in IRS recommendations On $17 million in income from China and Ukraine. Seems like an important detail. Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2023 01:48 PM (ZLI7S) 315
A woke DEI progressive donated to the R party? Yeah right.
-- What's sad is that someone apparently felt the need to look up this guy's donor information to make it somehow pertinent to this tragic story. Just another pitiful sign of how everything damned thing now is twisted into something political. Posted by: Lady in Black at June 22, 2023 01:48 PM (sVtYq) 316
291 My dad was disappointed I didn't go into the Navy and on subs like he did.
I told him that A, diving in a ship is doing half the enemy's work for him; and B, subs are like tanks...everything designed to kill them, kills them. Very few wounded in a sub. Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2023 01:45 PM (e4fEA) True but a most effective weapon. US subs did more to beat Japan in WW2 than US carriers. Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 22, 2023 01:48 PM (kzHlT) 317
Inherent risk is one thing. Being either mislead or straight up lied to about the safety of a particular thing is another.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer With a lot of money involved to get people to go. Just saying. Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2023 01:48 PM (oiNtH) 318
One thing that gets glossed over is that lots of the Dutch were definitely Nazi-enthusiastic. Enough so that they ran their own concentration camps without much prodding from the Germans.
They also had one of the more effective resistance networks in occupied Europe, so it certainly wasn't a universal thing among the Clog-Hoppers. So no, this new housing law doesn't exactly surprise me. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 22, 2023 01:43 PM (n+4am) I thought the farmers who they tried to destroy in the last few years had big gains in what passes for their government. Is this a lame duck law, or did they somehow manage to negate the election like the dozens of other times in Europe? Posted by: Oldcat at June 22, 2023 01:48 PM (eoQWY) 319
>Yeah, lots of references to hull compression in submarine movies. You'd think that's something they'd take into account. Maybe not, though.
yes but in the movies it's just a leaky pipe that sprays everybody, until The Grizzled Veteran grabs a wrench and tightens something Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 01:48 PM (geLO8) 320
>>> 310 A woke DEI progressive donated to the R party? Yeah right.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 22, 2023 01:46 PM (9RRW+) When you can buy congress people for 10 grand, you give to both parties to get what you need. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 01:47 PM (Zz0t1) *ding ding ding* Wonder how many times Snopes will revise their comment about this. Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 22, 2023 01:48 PM (llON8) 321
@290
>>Inherent risk is one thing. Being either mislead or straight up lied to about the safety of a particular thing is another. I don't believe any of the people onboard were neophytes, and one of the fateful crew was a very experienced Titanic Diver who had been on multiple other trips to the wreck. They just tried to push the envelope out too far and the envelope showed them who's boss. It's similar to how every innovator of wingsuit technology and practice is dead. Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2023 01:49 PM (up/3i) 322
This busty brunette in a dress feels bad for the dead and their families:
https://is.gd/zg6ALa Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:49 PM (t0OGg) 323
273 51 He duckspoke DEI gibberish right up until the disaster.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 01:19 PM (iFTx/) "Duckspoke"? Posted by: m at June 22, 2023 01:42 PM (ASp1y) ____________ It's from Orwell's 1984 and refers to mindless regurgitation of approved speech and talking points Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 01:49 PM (iFTx/) 324
>My new hobby is going to be posing as an "expert" in every field with a different name each time and feeding news vomiters info that's laughably wrong just to see what makes it on screen.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2023 01:30 PM (9UlRk) It will only work if your bullshit validates their preferred narrative. Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 22, 2023 01:49 PM (mOkB5) 325
I see Adele with quiet the zing on Katy Perry
I love seeing Katy Perry's boobs and bum. Love it. But that's not what my music is about. I don't make music for eyes. I make music for ears. Posted by: 18-1 at June 22, 2023 01:49 PM (lc5cP) 326
Of course it imploded. Anyone with a lick of sense and a background in submarining knew this would be the case.
You didn't even need the background in submarining, either. You just needed a healthy sense of skepticism and a willingness to process cold, hard facts, without being clouded by emotions. And yet, the media kept this alive for days as if it were the next polar vortex or something. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2023 01:49 PM (qZnD2) Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2023 01:49 PM (VXWhT) 328
"Press conference: IRS whistleblower says Hunter Biden hid $2.2 million unreported tax, large diamond and a Porsche
DOJ has intervened in IRS recommendations" This guy sounds pissed. Posted by: fd at June 22, 2023 01:49 PM (iayUP) 329
DOJ has intervened in IRS recommendations
On $17 million in income from China and Ukraine. Seems like an important detail. Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2023 01:48 PM (ZLI7S) The DOJ. Looking into the Biden's. It WOULD be a big deal IF they were looking for justice........ Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 01:50 PM (Zz0t1) 330
yes but in the movies it's just a leaky pipe that sprays everybody, until The Grizzled Veteran grabs a wrench and tightens something
*** Yeah but the CEO was into hiring young girls, not 50-something year old white guys. Posted by: Azathoth at June 22, 2023 01:50 PM (wb1YC) 331
What are the odds this cage fight between Musk and Zuckerberg will actually happen?
I sure would love to see it happen. Posted by: bonhomme at June 22, 2023 01:43 PM (R38qh) I'd say Slim and None, and Slim just left town. Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at June 22, 2023 01:50 PM (oxSjI) 332
322 This busty brunette in a dress feels bad for the dead and their families:
https://is.gd/zg6ALa Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:49 PM (t0OGg) _____________ Tranny vibes . . . hard pass Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 01:50 PM (iFTx/) 333
Is it obstruction of justice of the Dept of Justice does it?
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/ 1671933079449903104?cxt=HHwWgICxjeGR87MuAAAA Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 22, 2023 01:50 PM (fs1hN) 334
This busty brunette in a dress feels bad for the dead and their families:
https://is.gd/zg6ALa Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:49 PM (t0OGg) Looks like one of my first girlfriends, only a little more endowed. And she looks as youthful now as that pic, some 29 years later. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2023 01:51 PM (qZnD2) 335
I am not gloating I am just not being hysterical.
I find the notion that a fella who jerked off to DEI and was refusing to hire "50 year old white guys" being a "true blue republican" to be well funny. Posted by: sven at June 22, 2023 01:51 PM (X0I7i) 336
>>Seems like an insane waste of resources and risk to go looking for these people.
======== There's a pragmatic response, too. Search-and-rescue equipment and procedures need to be tested. Posted by: Blonde Morticia True - Also, the pay for sailors can already be considered a sunk cost. ?? Too soon? Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2023 01:51 PM (q3ANs) 337
>>My new hobby is going to be posing as an "expert" in every field with a different name each time and feeding news vomiters info that's laughably wrong just to see what makes it on screen.
well, whoever came up with 'Wi Tu Lo' became legend- good luck Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 01:51 PM (geLO8) 338
https://tinyurl.com/mrzsuhw6
In 2018, Rush was sent a letter by the Marine Technology Society, a professional society of ocean engineers, academics and other peers. The letter, obtained by the New York Times, warns Rush of their “unanimous concern” about the Titan. The society accuses Rush of falsely advertising the Titan’s safety standards while allegedly refusing to allow an independent third party to test the vessel. “Our apprehension is that the current ‘experimental’ approach adopted by Oceangate could result in negative outcomes (from minor to catastrophic) that would have serious consequences for everyone in the industry,” the letter reads. The Times reported Rush responded to the letter by complaining “industry regulations were stifling innovation.” In a November podcast with CBS News, Rush said, “At some point, safety just is pure waste,” adding, “I mean, if you just want to be safe, don’t get out of bed. Don’t get in your car. Don’t do anything.” Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at June 22, 2023 01:51 PM (MFZ8i) 339
291 My dad was disappointed I didn't go into the Navy and on subs like he did.
I told him that A, diving in a ship is doing half the enemy's work for him; and B, subs are like tanks...everything designed to kill them, kills them. Very few wounded in a sub. Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2023 01:45 PM (e4fEA) My GrandFather talked about how the Navy tried to talk him into transferring (1930's) into a Pre WWII Sub and when it dove he was like no way, they only reason he thought about it was the extra Pay he would have gotten. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 01:51 PM (dKiJG) 340
This busty brunette in a dress feels bad for the dead and their families:
https://is.gd/zg6ALa Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:49 PM (t0OGg) Were she there, they might've floated. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 01:51 PM (Zz0t1) 341
" Finally, can you say "rental" agreements that look suspiciously like mortgages? "
They call that an "owner- carried mortgage", they are (last I knew) perfectly legal, and used to be the way things were always done, back before the banks got their hooks into the entire process. Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 22, 2023 01:51 PM (ou9hh) 342
"During a previous dive one of the passengers saw the window deform by three quarters of an inch."
- This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 22, 2023 01:51 PM (FVME7) 343
The CEO fired a 50 something year old white guy for blowing the whistle on safety concerns.
https://tinyurl.com/ynrtnevy I guess "inspirational" to the CEO means "somebody who won't call me on my bullshit." Posted by: McLurkerson at June 22, 2023 01:51 PM (wNDOJ) 344
My dad was disappointed I didn't go into the Navy and on subs like he did.
I told him that A, diving in a ship is doing half the enemy's work for him; and B, subs are like tanks...everything designed to kill them, kills them. Very few wounded in a sub. Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2023 01:45 PM (e4fEA) I’m glad they didn’t put you on a sub recruitment desk. 😀 Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2023 01:51 PM (MNhXM) 345
And anyway, I prefer Dr. Benjamin Rush-the patriot from the 1700's to Stockton Rush, his modern day relative.
Again, though, I hope they died quickly and painlessly Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office at June 22, 2023 01:51 PM (Keyt1) 346
What they should have loaded that sub and skuttled with the wreck of the Titanic, was ALL the existing copies of that gay ass Film
Posted by: garrett at June 22, 2023 01:46 PM (0PkWs) If those on the Titanic are still on the ship in the afterlife, does this mean those in the sub are stuck in the same sub in their afterlife? Posted by: Oldcat at June 22, 2023 01:52 PM (eoQWY) 347
The cenotes of the Yucatán was as far into cave diving I ever wanted. The nice thing about the cenotes is there were always escapes overhead.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 22, 2023 01:37 PM (BdMk6) I have an actual question about that. Some people have said in some of those Cenotes, they got really bad feelings about being there, and though they were mostly not religious, they thought there was something really bad down there. And that is not including the lady who had issues with "duendes" and hated garden gnomes too. Was that your experience, or should I mark it down to high levels of CO2? Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2023 01:52 PM (xhaym) 348
>>The DOJ. Looking into the Biden's. It WOULD be a big deal IF they were looking for justice........
Wait until you hear the press conference. This one ain't gonna be so easy to sweep under the rug. Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2023 01:52 PM (ZLI7S) 349
My dad was disappointed I didn't go into the Navy and on subs like he did.
I told him that A, diving in a ship is doing half the enemy's work for him; and B, subs are like tanks...everything designed to kill them, kills them. Very few wounded in a sub. Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2023 01:45 PM (e4fEA) heh. I was originally branched Armor but then changed my mind and went Infantry because I didn't relish the thought of becoming nothing more than a HEAT missile magnet. Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 22, 2023 01:52 PM (iHAQn) 350
That word 'deserve' is a loaded one. Did the passengers deserve to die? Who knows?
But they did put themselves into a situation with foreseeable risks. Do hang gliders who fly into the side of a cliff deserve to die? Perhaps not, but I'm more likely to reserve my sympathy for people with cancer or children with serious birth defects. How often to we hear ambulance chaser lawyers exhorting people to "...call now to get the benefits you deserve..."? It's a highly misused word. Posted by: Muldoon at June 22, 2023 01:52 PM (kXYt5) 351
In other news, Nice Bod Brooke is wandering the back alley of Rome, wearing a light dress that lets you know she has an ample rack, and real-life preggers Steffy is hiding her belly (poorly) with a big purse, but displaying some gestation related cleavage.
They are all in Rome right now, so plenty of real outdoor shots. Sadly, Big Tit Donna was not invited. Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 22, 2023 01:52 PM (ufFY8) 352
Ah meant to say Armor recruitment.
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2023 01:52 PM (MNhXM) 353
Nature and physics want to kill all of us.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 22, 2023 01:53 PM (BdMk6) 354
I think someone here said yesterday that the sub had carbon fiber fuselage GLUED to titanium end caps.
Can that possibly be right? If so that's INSANE. Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2023 01:53 PM (iziT8) 355
This busty brunette in a dress feels bad for the dead and their families:
https://is.gd/zg6ALa Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:49 PM (t0OGg) ........ Even Captain Chum? Posted by: wth at June 22, 2023 01:53 PM (v0R5T) 356
What they should have loaded that sub and skuttled with the wreck of the Titanic, was ALL the existing copies of that gay ass Film
Posted by: garrett at June 22, 2023 01:46 PM (0PkWs) ++++ Titan was said have had the interior volume of a mini-van. Not precise, but it was probably in the neighborhood of 165 cubic feet. A DVD case has a volume of about 0.0064 cubic feet. So assuming a good fit (which you won't get, because the submarine was a cylinder), the vessel could only carry around 26,000 DVD cases - nowhere near enough capacity for all copies of the "Titanic" film starring Leonardo DeCaprio. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:53 PM (t0OGg) 357
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:49 PM (t0OGg)
I'm sure she does. She's wearing a cross and a RC medal. No doubt on her way to Mass when the pic was snapped. Pretty girl. Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office at June 22, 2023 01:53 PM (Keyt1) 358
321 @290
>>Inherent risk is one thing. Being either mislead or straight up lied to about the safety of a particular thing is another. I don't believe any of the people onboard were neophytes, and one of the fateful crew was a very experienced Titanic Diver who had been on multiple other trips to the wreck. They just tried to push the envelope out too far and the envelope showed them who's boss. It's similar to how every innovator of wingsuit technology and practice is dead. Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 22, 2023 01:49 PM (up/3i) ___________ Yup, that is true in every single extreme sport or activity that humans have yet engaged in. Wingsuits, free climbing, extreme submarine diving, Crocodile Hunting, motorcycle racing in the Isle of Man, extreme parkour, etc. If you do it long enough, you WILL die. Only a matter of time. No exceptions to this rule. Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 01:54 PM (iFTx/) 359
Yeah, if that which does not kill you makes you stronger?
I should be SuperMan by now. Posted by: Romeo13 at June 22, 2023 01:39 PM (oHd/0) Scars remind us that the past was real Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2023 01:54 PM (xhaym) 360
If so that's INSANE.
Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2023 01:53 PM (iziT ![]() If it's designed right, the joint is under compression. You wouldn't even need the glue, really. Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2023 01:54 PM (9UlRk) 361
" Nature and physics want to kill all of us.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons" the trees outside my house want me dead. Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2023 01:54 PM (iziT8) 362
True but a most effective weapon. US subs did more to beat Japan in WW2 than US carriers.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 22, 2023 01:48 PM (kzHlT) True. Interesting sidenote. The ol man said that while being depth charged, they always had the lights off except for one or two. Really dark. And if the depth charge was close enough you could see the flash. He explained saying the concussion was enough to break the hatch seal long enough for light to get in, but not water. Freaky shit!!! Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2023 01:54 PM (e4fEA) 363
When I was in the Cayman Islands I went on one of those submarine excursions that was actually pretty cool.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2023 01:54 PM (NpAcC) 364
On board were the twelve The Poet, the Physician, the Farmer The Scientist, the Magician And the other so-called Gods of our legends Though Gods they were Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2023 01:55 PM (63Dwl) 365
It's similar to how every innovator of wingsuit technology and practice is dead.
______ To be fair, I'd be dead by now even if I did my test flight on a cloudy day. Posted by: Icarus at June 22, 2023 01:55 PM (fs1hN) 366
>>I think someone here said yesterday that the sub had carbon fiber fuselage GLUED to titanium end caps.
You'd have to have a death wish to get in a sub made of carbon fiber and go to those depths. I've sailed on carbon fiber boats. Very strong until they get a crack. Then they aren's so strong. Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2023 01:55 PM (ZLI7S) 367
206 The Dutch have historically been one of the Judaeophilic peoples in the world. They welcomed the Jews who were expelled from Spain. And Anne Frank’s family was hiding in the Netherlands when they were captured.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 22, 2023 01:55 PM (6Mj+v) 368
>>"They didn't use Steel they used Carbon Fiber instead which is untested at those depts." (depths)
Previously untested. Fails. Posted by: boynsea at June 22, 2023 01:55 PM (cx155) 369
I guess "inspirational" to the CEO means "somebody who won't call me on my bullshit."
Posted by: McLurkerson at June 22, 2023 01:51 PM (wNDOJ) You know what is inspirational? Breathing oxygen, not mixed with despair, farts, and CO2. You know what else is inspirational? Not having your asshole forced through your skull instantaneously by 2,100 fathoms of sea pressure. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2023 01:55 PM (qZnD2) 370
What did the passengers do if they had to take a piss?
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 01:56 PM (iFTx/) 371
>>> 360 If so that's INSANE.
Posted by: eleven at June 22, 2023 01:53 PM (iziT If it's designed right, the joint is under compression. You wouldn't even need the glue, really. Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2023 01:54 PM (9UlRk) I think I see the problem... Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 22, 2023 01:56 PM (llON8) 372
Well, we know they weren't witches.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 01:56 PM (Zz0t1) 373
"Some people have said in some of those Cenotes, they got really bad feelings about being there, and though they were mostly not religious, they thought there was something really bad down there."
Considering that some of them got used for human sacrifices, and I don't think anyone sent priests down to exorcise them, it wouldn't be surprising if there were various local badnesses in a bunch of them. Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 22, 2023 01:56 PM (ou9hh) 374
"Descending to nearly 4000 meters with a bubble rated by the manufacturer to only 1500 meters is TIGHT!"
"Whoops!" "Whoopsie!" Too soon? Posted by: Sharkman at June 22, 2023 01:56 PM (tTxmq) 375
1500 souls were lost on that ship. The wreck site is a mass grave.
Yet there are those who feel they're entitled to desecrate that site, just because it's on their bucket list and they have the money to do it. Let those souls rest, please. Posted by: Gran at June 22, 2023 01:33 PM (GM3/s) Fortunately, the Titanic is deep enough that Chinese ship grave robbers can't reach her. Yet. Posted by: Beartooth at June 22, 2023 01:57 PM (8vzCZ) 376
Hello, Seamus.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 22, 2023 01:57 PM (Vwz3I) 377
This busty brunette in a dress feels bad for the dead and their families:
https://is.gd/zg6ALa _____ I bet her hair smells good. And I'm serious, folks, no joke! Posted by: Joe from Scranton at June 22, 2023 01:57 PM (fs1hN) 378
In a November podcast with CBS News, Rush said, “At some point, safety just is pure waste,”
Almost seems like a red flag. Can't be sure, don't wanna jump to conclusions... Posted by: t-bird at June 22, 2023 01:57 PM (CaJIi) 379
350 That word 'deserve' is a loaded one. Did the passengers deserve to die? Who knows?
But they did put themselves into a situation with foreseeable risks. Do hang gliders who fly into the side of a cliff deserve to die? ---------- Same could be said with any passenger that gets aboard an airliner, mindlessly expecting to get to their destination. Soooo many things could go wrong. Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 22, 2023 01:57 PM (BdMk6) 380
You know what is inspirational?
Breathing oxygen, not mixed with despair, farts, and CO2. You know what else is inspirational? Not having your asshole forced through your skull instantaneously by 2,100 fathoms of sea pressure. Posted by: Comrade Flounder *** Believe me, at that point there was a lot more than farts in there. Posted by: Azathoth at June 22, 2023 01:57 PM (wb1YC) 381
Previously untested. Fails.
Posted by: boynsea at June 22, 2023 01:55 PM (cx155) ++++ Unknown. Did the hull collapse? Did the window blow in? Did a fire break out and weaken it? We know (well, we assume based on what's been reported) that it sank. We don't know why it sank. Maybe the carbon fiber is fine. Maybe it was the root cause of the problem. Dunno. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 01:57 PM (t0OGg) 382
Too soon? Posted by: Sharkman at June 22, 2023 01:56 PM (tTxmq) Nope. The dude thought he was a god. The only shame is he was able to convince other dipshits to join him on his journey. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 01:57 PM (Zz0t1) 383
You know what else is inspirational?
Not having your asshole forced through your skull instantaneously by 2,100 fathoms of sea pressure. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2023 01:55 PM (qZnD2) Reminds me...I wonder how the surgery Nurse was working on went? Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2023 01:57 PM (e4fEA) 384
In a November podcast with CBS News, Rush said, “At some point, safety just is pure waste,” adding, “I mean, if you just want to be safe, don’t get out of bed. Don’t get in your car. Don’t do anything.”
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe What a dumb mindset from this guy. Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2023 01:58 PM (oiNtH) 385
We went in that mothballed sub at Pearl Harbor. My grandson freaked out and wanted out immediately so I rushed him topside. I don't think he'll ever join the Navy.
Posted by: wth at June 22, 2023 01:58 PM (v0R5T) 386
Yup, that is true in every single extreme sport or activity that humans have yet engaged in. Wingsuits, free climbing, extreme submarine diving, Crocodile Hunting, motorcycle racing in the Isle of Man, extreme parkour, etc. If you do it long enough, you WILL die. Only a matter of time. No exceptions to this rule.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 01:54 PM (iFTx/) Brings me back to one of my favorite sayings I heard a black guy say after watching a Red Bull mountain bike course. WHITE BOYS BE CRAZY ! Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2023 01:58 PM (MNhXM) 387
Sounds normal.
>>@seandav >>BREAKING: According to IRS whistleblowers, DOJ tipped off Hunter Biden about a search of his storage unit, prohibited investigators from executing a warrant on Joe Biden's guest house, and repeatedly prohibited charges from being brought against Hunter Biden. Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2023 01:58 PM (ZLI7S) 388
Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2023 01:54 PM (NpAcC)
===== redridinghood! I found us an 'ette version of JTM. https://youtu.be/zQ5JMQ_ngeQ Posted by: Jordan61 at June 22, 2023 01:58 PM (DRSnL) 389
Well, we know they weren't witches.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 01:56 PM (Zz0t1) Should have built a bridge out of them instead. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 22, 2023 01:58 PM (ufFY8) 390
I'm sure she does. She's wearing a cross and a RC medal. No doubt on her way to Mass when the pic was snapped.
Pretty girl. Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office For the uninitiated, The small medal is called a "Miraculous Medal". The Medal is a visual reminder of our salvation through Jesus Christ. Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2023 01:59 PM (q3ANs) 391
Fortunately, the Titanic is deep enough that Chinese ship grave robbers can't reach her. Yet.
Posted by: Beartooth at June 22, 2023 01:57 PM (8vzCZ) Unfortunately the French grave robbers beat them to it, hence the touring exhibitions of artifacts salvaged from the debris field between the two halves of the ship. Posted by: Gran at June 22, 2023 01:59 PM (GM3/s) 392
I never quite understood the disdain or lack of sympathy for the people killed here.
I have a limited supply of sympathy and would prefer to spend it on people who don't go out of their way to catch Death's undivided attention just for thrills. Posted by: Chuck C at June 22, 2023 01:59 PM (Rr5Cf) 393
Atlantis, they could really get down there! Posted by: Guy who relates everything to a Zappa song at June 22, 2023 01:59 PM (iayUP) 394
Debris field? Whole thing looked like it would fit in my truck
Posted by: Skip at June 22, 2023 01:59 PM (jsXoR) 395
Same could be said with any passenger that gets aboard an airliner, mindlessly expecting to get to their destination. Soooo many things could go wrong.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 22, 2023 01:57 PM (BdMk6) Getting on an airplane has relatively known and fairly small risks. Don't know about submarine tours but I'd imagine it to be more like skydiving or mountain climbing than driving or flying. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 22, 2023 02:00 PM (eYoxG) 396
heh. I was originally branched Armor but then changed my mind and went Infantry because I didn't relish the thought of becoming nothing more than a HEAT missile magnet.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 22, 2023 01:52 PM (iHAQn) Might sound bad here, but the infantry does most of the dying. In WWII the armor only had 1400 KIA for the entire war. English units by Normandy were becoming ineffective because they had plumped out armor and specialist segments, but the infantry component was hugely understrength. Russia had a similar issue that they mitigated to some extent by dragooning anyone in towns they captured into the unit. Posted by: Oldcat at June 22, 2023 02:00 PM (eoQWY) 397
>>> 384 In a November podcast with CBS News, Rush said, "At some point, safety just is pure waste," adding, "I mean, if you just want to be safe, don’t get out of bed. Don’t get in your car. Don’t do anything."
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe What a dumb mindset from this guy. Posted by: Cheri at June 22, 2023 01:58 PM (oiNtH) I wonder if he wore a mask, "social distanced" (outside of his sub) and got "vaxxed". Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 22, 2023 02:00 PM (llON8) 398
New trend for women on the right is trailer park chic?
After watching Big Marge call another conservative a "little bitch" on the Congressional floor I can see where this is headed. Was Big Marge wearing construction boots when she said that? Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 22, 2023 02:00 PM (9RRW+) Posted by: Bug on the windshield on I-80 at June 22, 2023 02:00 PM (ufFY8) 400
That said, I also can't help but feel they died of stupidity. Assuming reports are true (I know that's a big leap these days), the vessel was very much untested/uncertified, yet they climbed in it and went 2 miles underwater anyway.
Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at June 22, 2023 01:39 PM (oxSjI) Which begs the question, did they know that going in? Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 22, 2023 01:41 PM (KbCG3) I believe that the "you can't sue us if you die" form they filled out specifically mentioned that the sub had not been certified by anyone. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2023 02:01 PM (VXWhT) 401
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2023 01:55 PM (qZnD2)
You know what else is inspirational? The CEO. He's even an inspiration to those young 'uns now. "Don't run your company like an asshole." Posted by: McLurkerson at June 22, 2023 02:01 PM (wNDOJ) 402
Not having your asshole forced through your skull instantaneously by 2,100 fathoms of sea pressure.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2023 01:55 PM (qZnD2) - John Holmes has entered the chat. Posted by: BifBewalski at June 22, 2023 02:01 PM (3CCua) 403
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redridinghood! I found us an 'ette version of JTM. https://youtu.be/zQ5JMQ_ngeQ Posted by: Jordan61 at June 22, 2023 01:58 PM (DRSnL) I think they were supposed to edit out that first throw....... Hope no one was in the tent at the time. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 02:01 PM (Zz0t1) 404
The far-Left Democrat wants to kill you. The moderate Democrat wants the far-Left Democrat to kill you. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2023 02:01 PM (j7y4a) 405
It's the domain of Aquaman, what can we mortals do?
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 22, 2023 02:01 PM (+ce19) 406
If you have to change your fact check conclusion from true to false, then it was never really fact checked was it.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 22, 2023 02:01 PM (SNoik) 407
If only I were on that sub..
Posted by: Dead, from Unga Bunga at June 22, 2023 02:01 PM (5FPX4) 408
I believe that the "you can't sue us if you die" form they filled out specifically mentioned that the sub had not been certified by anyone. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2023 02:01 PM (VXWhT) And the word DEATH was listed multiple times throughout the document. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 02:02 PM (Zz0t1) 409
Please use "Large Marge"
Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 02:02 PM (geLO8) 410
Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office at June 22, 2023 01:53 PM
I think that is a sword, not a cross. Thankfully Posted by: clutch at June 22, 2023 02:02 PM (9UmRs) 411
The far-Left Democrat wants to kill you. The moderate Democrat wants the far-Left Democrat to kill you.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2023 02:01 PM (j7y4a) Nice. Did you come up with that? Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2023 02:02 PM (MNhXM) 412
396 heh. I was originally branched Armor but then changed my mind and went Infantry because I didn't relish the thought of becoming nothing more than a HEAT missile magnet.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at June 22, 2023 01:52 PM (iHAQn) Might sound bad here, but the infantry does most of the dying. In WWII the armor only had 1400 KIA for the entire war. English units by Normandy were becoming ineffective because they had plumped out armor and specialist segments, but the infantry component was hugely understrength. Russia had a similar issue that they mitigated to some extent by dragooning anyone in towns they captured into the unit. Posted by: Oldcat at June 22, 2023 02:00 PM (eoQWY) Is that still true today though? Equipment losses tend to be way higher these days. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 22, 2023 02:02 PM (eYoxG) 413
Yup, that is true in every single extreme sport or activity that humans have yet engaged in. Wingsuits, free climbing, extreme submarine diving, Crocodile Hunting, motorcycle racing in the Isle of Man, extreme parkour, etc. If you do it long enough, you WILL die. Only a matter of time. No exceptions to this rule.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 01:54 PM (iFTx/) Sticking your d*&% in crazy ? Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 22, 2023 02:02 PM (NtVYv) 414
And the word DEATH was listed multiple times throughout the document.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 02:02 PM (Zz0t1) --- Pretty sure DEATH notarized it as well... Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2023 02:02 PM (YIVH2) 415
There are some people whose deaths I have celebrated and those I will celebrate. Not these people. However it appears from what little we know that they died from the owner valuing wokeness over sound engineering, proper fabrication, and testing for catastrophic failure before getting other people to pay him to risk their lives.
Posted by: But white middle aged engineers are BORING! at June 22, 2023 *** Funny, isn't it, how when we had you guys in charge, we sent bathyscaphes and other units to the sea floor and sent manned craft to the moon. Yet this sort of disaster happened so rarely that we still remember those exceptions* to this day. (* The Thresher disaster, Apollo 1, Space Shuttle Challenger, et al.) Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2023 02:03 PM (J2vNu) 416
I think they were supposed to edit out that first throw.......
Hope no one was in the tent at the time. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 02:01 PM (Zz0t1) ===== Shush, stop ruining it. Posted by: Jordan61 at June 22, 2023 02:03 PM (DRSnL) 417
I believe that the "you can't sue us if you die" form they filled out specifically mentioned that the sub had not been certified by anyone.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2023 02:01 PM (VXWhT) And the word DEATH was listed multiple times throughout the document. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 02:02 PM (Zz0t1) Ergo, died of stupidity. Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at June 22, 2023 02:03 PM (oxSjI) Posted by: Chasten Buttigieg at June 22, 2023 02:03 PM (Zz0t1) 419
"And the word DEATH was listed multiple times throughout the document."
In fairness so does informed consent documentation for hangnail removal. Posted by: Zek at June 22, 2023 02:03 PM (5FPX4) 420
>>> 400 That said, I also can't help but feel they died of stupidity. Assuming reports are true (I know that's a big leap these days), the vessel was very much untested/uncertified, yet they climbed in it and went 2 miles underwater anyway.
Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at June 22, 2023 01:39 PM (oxSjI) Which begs the question, did they know that going in? Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 22, 2023 01:41 PM (KbCG3) I believe that the "you can't sue us if you die" form they filled out specifically mentioned that the sub had not been certified by anyone. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2023 02:01 PM (VXWhT) As others have said, this wouldn't prevent relatives from suing. Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 22, 2023 02:03 PM (llON8) 421
I believe that the "you can't sue us if you die" form they filled out specifically mentioned that the sub had not been certified by anyone.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2023 02:01 PM (VXWhT) And the word DEATH was listed multiple times throughout the document. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 02:02 PM (Zz0t1) ......... That should have been their first clue. Posted by: wth at June 22, 2023 02:03 PM (v0R5T) 422
10 hours to get down there, and then ten hours to get back up, not counting the time you actually poke around the wreck?
No effing way. Not even with naked Alison Armitage sitting on my lap. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 22, 2023 02:04 PM (6Mj+v) 423
"Isn't the sub owner in the sub? Wasn't he the woke guy who said he didn't want to hire 50 yr old white guys?
Why is the left gloating? Their ideology sank their dream. Reality strikes again." Posted by: sharon yeah, the competent "old" white guys were not inspirational. I wonder what the replacements looked like? Lots of interviews with people that went on the voyage or decided to avoid it ... saying there were always issues. Posted by: illiniwek at June 22, 2023 02:04 PM (Cus5s) 424
===== Shush, stop ruining it. Posted by: Jordan61 at June 22, 2023 02:03 PM (DRSnL) After the first throw, I thought it was going to be a goof video where he never hit the target one time and the tent would fall down. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 02:04 PM (Zz0t1) 425
Might sound bad here, but the infantry does most of the dying. In WWII the armor only had 1400 KIA for the entire war. English units by Normandy were becoming ineffective because they had plumped out armor and specialist segments, but the infantry component was hugely understrength ___________ The rate of British infantry losses in Normandy was similar to that of Passchendaele. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2023 02:04 PM (j7y4a) 426
206 The Dutch have historically been one of the Judaeophilic peoples in the world. They welcomed the Jews who were expelled from Spain. And Anne Frank’s family was hiding in the Netherlands when they were captured.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 22, 2023 01:55 PM (6Mj+v) They also had 25000 join the Waffen SS. Posted by: Oldcat at June 22, 2023 02:04 PM (eoQWY) Posted by: redridinghood at June 22, 2023 02:04 PM (NpAcC) 428
How often to we hear ambulance chaser lawyers exhorting people to "...call now to get the benefits you deserve..."? It's a highly misused word.
Posted by: Muldoon at June 22, 2023 01:52 PM (kXYt5) ------------ Use every man after his deserts, and who should 'scape whipping? Posted by: Hamlet at June 22, 2023 02:04 PM (fxrF8) 429
Lots of stuff can kill you. These guys undertook an extremely high-risk activity. Those risks were realized. I am sympathetic that they're dead and sorry for their families and I do not celebrate their deaths, but I don't know that I can call it a tragedy.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 02:05 PM (t0OGg) 430
Wasn't the CEO of Oceangate on the dive? If so, the people signing the form probably figured signing was no big deal.
Oops. Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 22, 2023 02:05 PM (2YtOq) 431
Robot Finds "Debris Field" On Ocean Floor In Search for Missing Sub
You want to sell the "Titanic Experience"? IMAX that shit. Send a tethered ROV and let people enjoy the ride from upstairs. Posted by: t-bird at June 22, 2023 02:05 PM (CaJIi) 432
Yup, that is true in every single extreme sport or activity that humans have yet engaged in. Wingsuits, free climbing, extreme submarine diving, Crocodile Hunting, motorcycle racing in the Isle of Man, extreme parkour, etc. If you do it long enough, you WILL die. Only a matter of time. No exceptions to this rule.
Posted by: Elric Blade True Dat! The rest of us are going to live forever … Posted by: Adriane the Bad Poetry Critic . . . at June 22, 2023 02:05 PM (jonTH) 433
And yet Snopes -- official "fact-checkers" used by the media and social media monopolies ... pronounced this T R U E.
--- I think you misspelled offecal. Posted by: Axeman at June 22, 2023 02:05 PM (krQz2) Posted by: Ernie McCracken at June 22, 2023 02:06 PM (tn4V2) 435
'Debris field' discovered in search for Titanic sub contains its 'rear cover and landing frame' which indicates 'catastrophic implosion', say experts
daily mail Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 02:06 PM (geLO8) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2023 02:06 PM (j7y4a) 437
hours to get down there, and then ten hours to get back up, not counting the time you actually poke around the wreck?
No effing way. Not even with naked Alison Armitage sitting on my lap. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 22, 2023 02:04 PM (6Mj+v) ____________ Same. But I'd consider it were Kate Beckinsale. For science, of course. Posted by: McLurkerson at June 22, 2023 02:06 PM (wNDOJ) 438
367 206 The Dutch have historically been one of the Judaeophilic peoples in the world. They welcomed the Jews who were expelled from Spain. And Anne Frank’s family was hiding in the Netherlands when they were captured.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 22, 2023 01:55 PM (6Mj+v) Yes after WWII they charged Jews for the Electric and Gas that was used in their homes they were evicted from, Their was a Documentary about it, and the letters were crushing, you get out of the camps and you then get a 4 year bill that you can't afford and everybody you know is dead Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 02:06 PM (dKiJG) Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2023 02:06 PM (qZnD2) 440
384 In a November podcast with CBS News, Rush said, "At some point, safety just is pure waste," adding, "I mean, if you just want to be safe, don’t get out of bed. Don’t get in your car. Don’t do anything."
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe --- There's risk and then there is STUPID risk. Going underwater in a rigorously tested and certified submersible is risky, but manageable. Going underwater in a submersible that hasn't been tested for those conditions at all--or only sparingly--is just plain dumb. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2023 02:06 PM (YIVH2) 441
The CEO is the same guy who said he didn’t want a bunch of 50 year old white guys…?
That doesn’t sound like someone who donates to the Republicans. Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2023 02:06 PM (MNhXM) 442
Might sound bad here, but the infantry does most of the dying. In WWII the armor only had 1400 KIA for the entire war. English units by Normandy were becoming ineffective because they had plumped out armor and specialist segments, but the infantry component was hugely understrength. Russia had a similar issue that they mitigated to some extent by dragooning anyone in towns they captured into the unit.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 22, 2023 02:00 PM (eoQWY) Is that still true today though? Equipment losses tend to be way higher these days. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 22, 2023 02:02 PM (eYoxG) PVT E-1 Bif used to listen to the Vietnam vet E-7s going through ADA warrant officer school talk that subject. Universally, Leg Infantry wins hands down for being desired over Air Assault, Airborne, and Mech Inf. "Why would you ride around in a damned target without the ability to at least shoot back?" *Former LRRP SFC Thorne (RIP) knods sagaciously * Posted by: BifBewalski at June 22, 2023 02:06 PM (3CCua) 443
My dad was disappointed I didn't go into the Navy and on subs like he did.
I told him that A, diving in a ship is doing half the enemy's work for him; and B, subs are like tanks...everything designed to kill them, kills them. Very few wounded in a sub. Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2023 01:45 PM (e4fEA) Honestly, the worst part of being on a submarine is the mind numbing boredom. On the plus side, every so often you get a few minutes of shrieking terror thrown in without warning. I don't know if it requires a warped personality, or creates one, but... whatever. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2023 02:06 PM (VXWhT) 444
"Isn't the sub owner in the sub? Wasn't he the woke guy who said he didn't want to hire 50 yr old white guys?
Why is the left gloating? Their ideology sank their dream. Reality strikes again." Posted by: sharon *** He found white female tiktokers to be more inspirational than 50-year-old white guys. Never mind the fact that an old white French guy inspired generation after generation of people to go into under sea exploration and oceanography for pretty much the entirety of the 20th century. Posted by: Azathoth at June 22, 2023 02:06 PM (wb1YC) 445
Wingsuits, free climbing, extreme submarine diving, Crocodile Hunting, motorcycle racing in the Isle of Man, extreme parkour, etc. If you do it long enough, you WILL die. Only a matter of time. No exceptions to this rule.
Posted by: Elric Blade Sticking your d*&% in crazy ? Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway Well Hatari, you gotta die of something. Just saying. Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2023 02:07 PM (q3ANs) 446
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I believe that the "you can't sue us if you die" form they filled out specifically mentioned that the sub had not been certified by anyone. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 22, 2023 02:01 PM (VXWhT) And the word DEATH was listed multiple times throughout the document. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 02:02 PM (Zz0t1) ___________ Still won't matter legally. You can't waive liability for negligence, at least under American law. Although, given that they were in the middle of the ocean I'm not sure what law would apply. Maritime? That could change things. I will guarantee you, however, that the rich, connected family members of the dead passengers will 100% sue, and it's 90% certain that they will win. Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 02:07 PM (iFTx/) Posted by: wth at June 22, 2023 02:07 PM (v0R5T) 448
I think that CEO wanted to share his death wish.
Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2023 02:07 PM (rj6Yv) 449
School teachers did a job on their minds, fed meth, got a smart bomb.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 22, 2023 02:07 PM (Df1rq) 450
but I don't know that I can call it a tragedy.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 02:05 PM (t0OGg) It's almost perfectly a tragedy: "Bad stuff happens to a bunch of people because of someone's hubris". Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2023 02:07 PM (9UlRk) 451
'Debris field' discovered in search for Titanic sub contains its 'rear cover and landing frame' which indicates 'catastrophic implosion', say experts
daily mail Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 02:06 PM (geLO ![]() That's determinative. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2023 02:08 PM (qZnD2) 452
Robot Finds "Debris Field" On Ocean Floor In Search for Missing Sub
You want to sell the "Titanic Experience"? IMAX that shit. Send a tethered ROV and let people enjoy the ride from upstairs. Posted by: t-bird at June 22, 2023 02:05 PM (CaJIi) --- Has James Cameron done this yet? I know he's been a pioneer in ocean exploration. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2023 02:08 PM (YIVH2) 453
Funny, isn't it, how when we had you guys in charge, we sent bathyscaphes and other units to the sea floor and sent manned craft to the moon. Yet this sort of disaster happened so rarely that we still remember those exceptions* to this day.
(* The Thresher disaster, Apollo 1, Space Shuttle Challenger, et al.) Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 22, 2023 02:03 PM (J2vNu) The shuttle accidents, both of them had previous indications of dangerous faults that should have led to steps to fix or mitigate the issue, but the pressure to keep flying led to the issue being hushed up and pushed aside. Posted by: Oldcat at June 22, 2023 02:08 PM (eoQWY) 454
yes but in the movies it's just a leaky pipe that sprays everybody, until The Grizzled Veteran grabs a wrench and tightens something
Posted by: DB --------- I have often compared such with my basement, 75 year-old hot-water heating/boiler, three zones. Probably 100 yards of piping, joints galore. Every heating season is an adventure. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2023 02:08 PM (VG0cN) Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2023 02:08 PM (MNhXM) 456
Who on board the sub had information on Hillary Clinton?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at June 22, 2023 02:09 PM (UHmIH) 457
Perhaps a better question would been does a hang glider who flies into the side of a cliff deserve to have 10 members of a Search and Rescue team and four helicopter crew members risk their lives to haul his shattered carcass off the side of the mountain?
Posted by: Muldoon at June 22, 2023 02:09 PM (kXYt5) 458
League of Their Own
Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at June 22, 2023 02:09 PM (OgrpQ) 459
You guys hear about that submarine?
Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2023 02:09 PM (RG6z4) 460
Never mind the fact that an old white French guy inspired generation after generation of people to go into under sea exploration and oceanography for pretty much the entirety of the 20th century.
Posted by: Azathoth at June 22, 2023 02:06 PM (wb1YC) For some reason his inspiration to have people ride a giant cannon shell to the moon had somewhat less success. Posted by: Oldcat at June 22, 2023 02:09 PM (eoQWY) 461
The CEO is the same guy who said he didn’t want a bunch of 50 year old white guys…?
That doesn’t sound like someone who donates to the Republicans. Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2023 02:06 PM (MNhXM) ++++ Sure it does. Like every other big money guy, he was buying access and power. If a Republican is the best path to that in his case, then a Republican gets the money. It's not like national-level Republicans are particularly different from the Democrats anyway. It's all a show and the sub-party (all under the Uniparty) doesn't really matter. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 02:09 PM (t0OGg) 462
413 Yup, that is true in every single extreme sport or activity that humans have yet engaged in. Wingsuits, free climbing, extreme submarine diving, Crocodile Hunting, motorcycle racing in the Isle of Man, extreme parkour, etc. If you do it long enough, you WILL die. Only a matter of time. No exceptions to this rule.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 01:54 PM (iFTx/) Sticking your d*&% in crazy ? Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 22, 2023 02:02 PM (NtVYv) _________ Well, there was this girl last night, who was on the very top right corner of the Hot-Crazy Matrix . . . . at least I survived. Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 02:09 PM (iFTx/) 463
In fairness so does informed consent documentation for hangnail removal. Posted by: Zek at June 22, 2023 02:03 PM (5FPX4) A medical procedure does not equal a joy ride in a culvert pipe to the bottom of the ocean....... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 02:10 PM (Zz0t1) 464
It's not unlike that suicide who jumped off the Grand Canyon Skywalk a couple of days ago.
Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2023 02:10 PM (rj6Yv) 465
Hopefully, it happened quickly and no one suffered.
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 22, 2023 02:10 PM (3w5qQ) 466
It's almost perfectly a tragedy: "Bad stuff happens to a bunch of people because of someone's hubris".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2023 02:07 PM (9UlRk) ++++ Sure, in the literal sense. I meant more figuratively in the modern sense - where a bridge girder falling on your car and killing you is tragic. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 02:10 PM (t0OGg) 467
The CEO is the same guy who said he didn’t want a bunch of 50 year old white guys…?
That doesn’t sound like someone who donates to the Republicans. Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2023 02:06 PM (MNhXM) --- Oh, it sounds like the Republican Donor Class just fine. You have to remember what constituency the GOP has. It's a big club, and you're not in it. Posted by: Axeman at June 22, 2023 02:10 PM (krQz2) 468
291 My dad was disappointed I didn't go into the Navy and on subs like he did.
I told him that A, diving in a ship is doing half the enemy's work for him; and B, subs are like tanks...everything designed to kill them, kills them. Very few wounded in a sub. Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2023 01:45 PM (e4fEA) Reminds me of a similar conversation I had with a sgt about helicopters... Posted by: Inogame at June 22, 2023 02:10 PM (53oGX) 469
What did the passengers do if they had to take a piss?
Posted by: Elric Blade Don’t know. Very, highly, likely, probably astronaut diapers … Posted by: Adriane the Bad Poetry Critic . . . at June 22, 2023 02:10 PM (jonTH) 470
But Joe said never discussed Hunter's overseas shakedowns.
@CollinRugg BREAKING: The DOJ allegedly tipped off Hunter Biden before a search was conducted on his storage unit & stopped an investigation into "a WhatsApp message in which Hunter Biden demands payment from Chinese officials, noting that his father is in the room." Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2023 02:11 PM (ZLI7S) 471
Sure, in the literal sense. I meant more figuratively in the modern sense - where a bridge girder falling on your car and killing you is tragic.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 02:10 PM (t0OGg) --- Ah, you should have specified the illiterate sense. Posted by: Axeman at June 22, 2023 02:11 PM (krQz2) Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 02:11 PM (geLO8) 473
it's being reported that right when it went down they had a leak and it's on the Radio call and that a seismic monitor near felt the implosion
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 02:11 PM (dKiJG) 474
In 2018, Rush was sent a letter by the Marine Technology Society, a professional society of ocean engineers, academics and other peers. The letter, obtained by the New York Times, warns Rush of their “unanimous concern” about the Titan.
They're now trying to blame El Rushbo for this? Man, Snopes has no shame. Posted by: Ian S. at June 22, 2023 02:11 PM (ZGrMX) 475
450 but I don't know that I can call it a tragedy.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 02:05 PM (t0OGg) It's almost perfectly a tragedy: "Bad stuff happens to a bunch of people because of someone's hubris". Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2023 02:07 PM (9UlRk) I don't see no Fates getting involved. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 22, 2023 02:11 PM (eYoxG) 476
472 James Cameron made a solo dive to the Challenger Deep
35,856 feet down he is stone nuts Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 02:11 PM (geLO ![]() ======= How much carbon did he burn for that whole effort? And how much carbon does he want to deny you in your everyday life to save the planet? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 02:12 PM (LvTSG) 477
But Joe said never discussed Hunter's overseas shakedowns.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2023 02:11 PM (ZLI7S) --- He stutters. So, it's somehow not exactly a discussion. ... when you stutter .... Posted by: Axeman at June 22, 2023 02:12 PM (krQz2) 478
For some reason his inspiration to have people ride a giant cannon shell to the moon had somewhat less success.
*** Lol. I was referring to Jacques Cousteau but you made me laugh anyway with the Jules Verne reference. Posted by: Azathoth at June 22, 2023 02:12 PM (wb1YC) 479
What did the passengers do if they had to take a piss?
Posted by: Elric Blade ....... they went in their pants as soon as the hissing noise started. Posted by: wth at June 22, 2023 02:12 PM (v0R5T) 480
When I slip and fall in the shower, that's tragedy. When you implode in a submarine 12,000 feet deep, that's comedy. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 22, 2023 02:12 PM (j7y4a) 481
Bad stuff happens to a bunch of people because of someone's hubris".
Posted by: Warai-otoko ******* Robotic submersible discovers hubris field on ocean floor... Posted by: Muldoon at June 22, 2023 02:12 PM (kXYt5) 482
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 02:09 PM (t0OGg)
Then he would have donated to both just like Trump. All I’m hearing is he was a Republican donor. Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2023 02:13 PM (MNhXM) 483
@CollinRugg
BREAKING: The DOJ allegedly tipped off Hunter Biden before a search was conducted on his storage unit & stopped an investigation into "a WhatsApp message in which Hunter Biden demands payment from Chinese officials, noting that his father is in the room." Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2023 02:11 PM (ZLI7S) But we can totally trust the DOJ to investigate this matter to the fullest. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 02:13 PM (Zz0t1) 484
Sure, in the literal sense. I meant more figuratively in the modern sense - where a bridge girder falling on your car and killing you is tragic.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 02:10 PM (t0OGg) In my defense, I was being facetiously literal. Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2023 02:13 PM (9UlRk) 485
Wasn't the CEO of Oceangate on the dive?
Probably mashing buttons like a mofo at the end. I do hope it all was instantaneous, though. Posted by: t-bird at June 22, 2023 02:13 PM (CaJIi) 486
Next time, use the white guys
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 22, 2023 02:14 PM (SNoik) 487
482 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 02:09 PM (t0OGg)
Then he would have donated to both just like Trump. All I’m hearing is he was a Republican donor. Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2023 02:13 PM (MNhXM) That is the sort of thing the media likes to strategically omit though. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 22, 2023 02:14 PM (eYoxG) 488
Hopefully, it happened quickly and no one suffered.
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 22, 2023 02:10 PM (3w5qQ) --- That's what I was saying. Flailing for air is one hell of a way to die. Posted by: Axeman at June 22, 2023 02:14 PM (krQz2) 489
Experts say the debris is the landing skid and rear hatch of the sub.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 22, 2023 02:14 PM (3vbXJ) 490
Lol. I was referring to Jacques Cousteau but you made me laugh anyway with the Jules Verne reference.
Posted by: Azathoth at June 22, 2023 02:12 PM (wb1YC) --- I would not all be surprised if Cousteau was indeed influenced by Jules Verne. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 22, 2023 02:14 PM (YIVH2) 491
>>... when you stutter .... He's going to be stuttering like a mofo after this press conference. In keeping with the spirit of the thread the good ship Biden just got hit with an enormous torpedo and is taking on water. Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2023 02:14 PM (ZLI7S) 492
Then he would have donated to both just like Trump. All I’m hearing is he was a Republican donor.
Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2023 02:13 PM (MNhXM) ++++ :: shrug :: Maybe so. Maybe he was a dyed-in-the-wool Republican. Big deal. He was also clearly a wokist. Party donations don't move the needle for me. I don't care that Tranheuser-Bush donated more to Republicans than Democrats. I don't care that Disney donates to Republicans as well as Democrats. It doesn't matter. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 02:14 PM (t0OGg) 493
You guys hear about that submarine?
Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2023 02:09 PM (RG6z4) Sub? What sub? snort! Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2023 02:14 PM (e4fEA) 494
Is that still true today though? Equipment losses tend to be way higher these days.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 22, 2023 02:02 PM (eYoxG) *Former LRRP SFC Thorne (RIP) knods sagaciously * Posted by: BifBewalski at June 22, 2023 02:06 PM (3CCua) Knocking out the tank doesn't mean killing all the occupants, especially mines that knock off a tread. Then you just get out and take a ride back to the front line. Certainly in the Ukraine the poor bloody infantry has done most of the dying on both sides, since the last year has been static fighting in trenches and fortified towns. Tanks are there in a guest starring role only, and when a Bradley or other APC gets hit its often stuffed with infantry as cargo. Posted by: Oldcat at June 22, 2023 02:14 PM (eoQWY) 495
474 In 2018, Rush was sent a letter by the Marine Technology Society, a professional society of ocean engineers, academics and other peers. The letter, obtained by the New York Times, warns Rush of their “unanimous concern” about the Titan.
------ They didn't listen because it's probably just a bunch of white guys who aren't inspiring anyone. Posted by: Seems Legit. at June 22, 2023 02:15 PM (DcKNO) 496
Wasn't the CEO of Oceangate on the dive?
Probably mashing buttons like a mofo at the end. *** Now I'm thinking of the scene in Men in Black 2 where Tommy Lee Jones is trying to drive the flying car with a game controller. Posted by: Azathoth at June 22, 2023 02:15 PM (wb1YC) 497
======= How much carbon did he burn for that whole effort? And how much carbon does he want to deny you in your everyday life to save the planet? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 02:12 PM (LvTSG) How much carbon did he create with those shitty blue man group movies? He should be put to death for crimes against nature at this point. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 02:15 PM (Zz0t1) 498
Next time, use the white guys
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 22, 2023 02:14 PM (SNoik) --- An old white guy is grizzled enough to know the day you die on the job is a short workday. Posted by: Axeman at June 22, 2023 02:15 PM (krQz2) 499
490 Georges Melies
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 22, 2023 02:15 PM (6Mj+v) 500
Link to the Radio call about the leak right when they went under water and the Seismic activity
https://tinyurl.com/mrxt7n3h Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 22, 2023 02:16 PM (dKiJG) 501
The sub experienced an anomaly.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 22, 2023 02:16 PM (3vbXJ) 502
No effing way. Not even with naked Alison Armitage sitting on my lap.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus ____________ Same. But I'd consider it were Kate Beckinsale. For science, of course. Posted by: McLurkerson Hours of oxygen now rated at 2 … Posted by: Adriane the Bad Poetry Critic . . . at June 22, 2023 02:16 PM (jonTH) 503
Sky News reports that the landing frame and the rear cover of the OceanGate were found in the debris field.
Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2023 02:16 PM (rj6Yv) 504
Experts say the debris is the landing skid and rear hatch of the sub.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 22, 2023 02:14 PM (3vbXJ) Did all the seamen come out ? Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 22, 2023 02:16 PM (NtVYv) 505
Never seen Blade Runner. Might have to rectify that soon.
Posted by: From about that Time at June 22, 2023 02:16 PM (4780s) 506
Former U.S. Rep. Will Hurd, R-Helotes, announced Thursday he is running for president, becoming the first Texan with experience in elective office to enter the Republican primary. Hurd, who represented Texas in Congress from 2015-21, begins his campaign as a major underdog. He is an unabashed moderate and a Donald Trump critic in a party where many remain loyal to the former president and frontrunner for the 2024 Republican nomination. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2023 02:16 PM (63Dwl) 507
In 2018, Rush was sent a letter by the Marine Technology Society, a professional society of ocean engineers, academics and other peers. The letter, obtained by the New York Times, warns Rush of their “unanimous concern” about the Titan.
--- But they thought it was some Fly By Night operation. Posted by: Axeman at June 22, 2023 02:16 PM (krQz2) 508
Plus Jacques Cousteau had that cool red beanie
Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 02:16 PM (geLO8) 509
What did the passengers do if they had to take a piss?
Posted by: Elric Blade Diagrams I saw showed some form of a toilet. I'm sure it was for "light" restroom use only. Posted by: Jussie Smullett at June 22, 2023 02:16 PM (N39Ws) 510
James Cameron made a solo dive to the Challenger Deep
35,856 feet down he is stone nuts Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 02:11 PM (geLO ![]() Look, I agree Avatar was a dumb movie but suicide is no answer James. Posted by: Oldcat at June 22, 2023 02:17 PM (eoQWY) 511
Zero empathy for psychopaths.
Posted by: torabora at June 22, 2023 02:17 PM (v8JNZ) 512
476 472 James Cameron made a solo dive to the Challenger Deep
35,856 feet down he is stone nuts Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 02:11 PM (geLO __________ Two guys did the same dive . . . in 1960. Huge brass balls of steel. Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 02:17 PM (iFTx/) 513
In 2018, Rush was sent a letter by the Marine Technology Society, a professional society of ocean engineers, academics and other peers. The letter, obtained by the New York Times, warns Rush of their “unanimous concern” about the Titan.
Relying on the maritime expertise of a Candian rock band seems questionable. Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 22, 2023 02:17 PM (ppBhU) 514
Before I realized I have mild claustrophobia I used to think it would cool be a space pioneer. This was in the heady days when it seemed like humans might actually colonize the moon and mars. And even today I think it is cool that space pioneers are floating space tourism to very wealthy people because it pays for technological progress.
The deep sea has no appeal to me, I don't even like to swim or take a surface boat. But it is the same principle. Tourism is an early step before any thoughts of mining or colonization will be feasible. That is not to say that I feel any more empathy for the folks on the micro-size sub than I feel for someone who dies climbing Everest, or of a snake or spider bite doing some exotic wilderness trek and for all of that I have only a small sliver of empathy. The risk of death is part of the adrenaline rush for these exotic activities; and doesn't trigger empathy in me like someone killed by a tornado etc doing routine life stuff. Posted by: PaleRider at June 22, 2023 02:17 PM (3cGpq) 515
508 Plus Jacques Cousteau had that cool red beanie
Posted by: DB - at June 22, 2023 02:16 PM (geLO ![]() ======= I have it on good authority that he stole that look from Steve Zissou. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 02:17 PM (LvTSG) 516
Greek Tragedy: Bad things happen due to the Fates.
Elizabethan Tragedy: Bad things happen due to a character's failings. Scandinavian Tragedy: Bad things happen because fukkit we're bored and lol her pet duck died what a slut Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2023 02:17 PM (9UlRk) 517
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Former U.S. Rep. Will Hurd, R-Helotes, announced Thursday he is running for president, becoming the first Texan with experience in elective office to enter the Republican primary. *** I see the check from the Lincoln Project cleared. Posted by: Azathoth at June 22, 2023 02:17 PM (wb1YC) 518
Sky News reports that the landing frame and the rear cover of the OceanGate were found in the debris field.
Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2023 02:16 PM (rj6Yv) So, the Russians blew it up? Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 02:17 PM (Zz0t1) 519
Lots of stuff can kill you. These guys undertook an extremely high-risk activity. Those risks were realized. I am sympathetic that they're dead and sorry for their families and I do not celebrate their deaths, but I don't know that I can call it a tragedy.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 02:05 PM (t0OGg) The line separating risk and stupidity is so fine as to be nearly invisible sometimes. But yet, we find people that are willing to dare that boundary. And I thank God for the people who decide to step into that breach and try to know the unknown. This nation has become way way way too risk averse. Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 22, 2023 02:18 PM (BdMk6) 520
If you do it long enough, you WILL die. Only a matter of time. No exceptions to this rule.
== Same is true of knitting. Or yoga. Posted by: zero survival rate at June 22, 2023 02:18 PM (sh1GZ) 521
There are articles which state that the viewing window was not capable of withstanding the pressure at the depth of the wreck and that, while the submersible had been at that depth before, cumulative fatigue may have been in play and this was the dive where it finally yielded to the sea. That they lost contact with the vessel around the time they were expected to arrive at the wreck is circumstantial evidence for this hypothesis. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot Egg-Fried: Proud Member of Clan Fried for ... oh, 'bout Two Weeks Now at June 22, 2023 02:18 PM (pNxlR) 522
516 Greek Tragedy: Bad things happen due to the Fates.
Elizabethan Tragedy: Bad things happen due to a character's failings. Scandinavian Tragedy: Bad things happen because fukkit we're bored and lol her pet duck died what a slut Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 22, 2023 02:17 PM (9UlRk) Clearly I need to start reading Scandinavian tragedies. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 22, 2023 02:18 PM (eYoxG) 523
I mean, if you just want to be safe, don’t get out of bed. Don’t get in your car. Don’t do anything
That's all well and good when it's only your ass on the line. It's something entirely different to drag others to their doom in your hubris. Posted by: Halfhand at June 22, 2023 02:18 PM (bXT2+) 524
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 02:14 PM (t0OGg)
That’s not the point but this is aos and the point is always lost after the first response. The point is the msm is trying again to make republicans and anyone associated with Republican the fall guy. Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2023 02:19 PM (MNhXM) 525
Hurd, who represented Texas in Congress from 2015-21, begins his campaign as a major underdog. He is an unabashed moderate and a Donald Trump critic in a party where many remain loyal to the former president and frontrunner for the 2024 Republican nomination.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2023 02:16 PM (63Dwl) ===== The LAST thing we need is a moderate. Posted by: Jordan61 at June 22, 2023 02:19 PM (DRSnL) 526
>>The risk of death is part of the adrenaline rush for these exotic activities; and doesn't trigger empathy in me like someone killed by a tornado etc doing routine life stuff.
Boldly going where no man has gone before is in the human DNA. If not for crazy explorers we would all still be living in caves. Here there be dragons. Some people went anyway. Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2023 02:19 PM (ZLI7S) 527
437 hours to get down there, and then ten hours to get back up, not counting the time you actually poke around the wreck?
No effing way. Not even with naked Alison Armitage sitting on my lap. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 22, 2023 02:04 PM (6Mj+v) ____________ Same. But I'd consider it were Kate Beckinsale. For science, of course. Posted by: McLurkerson at June 22, 2023 02:06 PM (wNDOJ) ___________ I would do it. But then I'm drawn to extreme shit like this. But I might have taken one look at the sub and the tween-looking pilots and bailed. Posted by: Elric Blade at June 22, 2023 02:19 PM (iFTx/) 528
Sky News reports that the landing frame and the rear cover of the OceanGate were found in the debris field.
Posted by: mrp at June 22, 2023 02:16 PM (rj6Yv) So, the Russians blew it up? Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 22, 2023 02:17 PM (Zz0t1) "Rogue Ukrainians" is the new fall guy. Gotta keep it straight. Posted by: Oldcat at June 22, 2023 02:19 PM (eoQWY) 529
Someone made the not so minor point last night that tensile strength was a lot different then crush strength.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 22, 2023 02:19 PM (SAX5G) 530
This nation has become way way way too risk averse.
Mike Rowe once did a very nice "rant" about "safety first." Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 22, 2023 02:19 PM (ppBhU) 531
Wasn't the CEO of Oceangate on the dive?
Probably mashing buttons like a mofo at the end. Life flashing before his eyes...with special emphasis upon a certain termination several years back...yeah. Look, I'm'a be honest here. This doesn't register for me beyond a shrug. Two reasons mostly, (a) it does not have any effect upon me and my life, and (b) I have no influence on how the affair is conducted or concluded. Thus I shrug and move on. Does that make me a bad person? Eh...if so add it to the list. Sad day for the families...but for the rest of us, life goes on same as before. Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at June 22, 2023 02:19 PM (OUMaO) 532
This nation has become way way way too risk averse.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 22, 2023 02:18 PM (BdMk6 Amen Posted by: polynikes at June 22, 2023 02:20 PM (MNhXM) 533
Stupidity should be painful. If only for a millisecond.
Posted by: Sharkman at June 22, 2023 02:20 PM (tTxmq) 534
525 Hurd, who represented Texas in Congress from 2015-21, begins his campaign as a major underdog. He is an unabashed moderate and a Donald Trump critic in a party where many remain loyal to the former president and frontrunner for the 2024 Republican nomination.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2023 02:16 PM (63Dwl) ===== The LAST thing we need is a moderate. Posted by: Jordan61 at June 22, 2023 02:19 PM (DRSnL) ======== Hurd would be the perfect also-ran who could make a case to be Romney's VP choice in 2012. The Republican Party's voters seem to have moved on, though. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 22, 2023 02:20 PM (LvTSG) 535
522 Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 22, 2023 02:18 PM (eYoxG)
Skandi murder mystery is a weird genre. "I know it was you!" How do you know? "There were three of us in 6 million square miles and she is dead and I did not do it." Posted by: sven at June 22, 2023 02:20 PM (X0I7i) 536
Horde Tragedy...begins when someone says "Hold my beer."
Posted by: Diogenes at June 22, 2023 02:20 PM (e4fEA) 537
Pew Nood
Posted by: Inogame at June 22, 2023 02:20 PM (53oGX) 538
523
That's all well and good when it's only your ass on the line. It's something entirely different to drag others to their doom in your hubris. Posted by: Halfhand at June 22, 2023 02:18 PM (bXT2+) My understanding is that there was some type of release form they all had to sign. And after each section was a phrase similar to "You may die". If they initialed after all of that, they knew their ass was on the line. Posted by: Jussie Smullett at June 22, 2023 02:20 PM (N39Ws) Posted by: Axeman at June 22, 2023 02:20 PM (krQz2) 540
The line separating risk and stupidity is so fine as to be nearly invisible sometimes. But yet, we find people that are willing to dare that boundary.
And I thank God for the people who decide to step into that breach and try to know the unknown. ... Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 22, 2023 02:18 PM (BdMk6) ++++ Yup. Progress is expensive and dangerous. I don't know that this sub qualifies, exactly because it is retreading old ground for different purposes, but the point remains. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 02:20 PM (t0OGg) Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 22, 2023 02:20 PM (3vbXJ) 542
Can't blame anyone born more than 50 years ago.
Posted by: torabora at June 22, 2023 02:21 PM (v8JNZ) Posted by: Snopes at June 22, 2023 02:21 PM (j40lz) 544
I mean, if you just want to be safe, don’t get out of bed. Don’t get in your car. Don’t do anything
Demotivational Indian Guy: https://youtu.be/HjPgdhRsGIQ Posted by: Tonypete at June 22, 2023 02:21 PM (q3ANs) 545
>Ten hours to get down there, and then ten hours to get back up, not counting the time you actually poke around the wreck?
...My dad planning our summer vacation. Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 22, 2023 02:22 PM (44ww/) 546
Perhaps a better question would been does a hang glider who flies into the side of a cliff deserve to have 10 members of a Search and Rescue team and four helicopter crew members risk their lives to haul his shattered carcass off the side of the mountain?
Posted by: Muldoon at June 22, 2023 02:09 PM (kXYt5) You can pretty much assure that he is going to pay for it, just like the guy who rolls his car on the interstate and needs the lifeflight. And of course S&R like that sort of work, it pays well and they get an excuse to do the fun stuff. I knew a guy who got out of jump school and was considering being a smoke jumper because he like parachuting. I am not convinced anyone deserves anything, though. Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2023 02:23 PM (xhaym) 547
219 This ending was inevitable. The company used acrylic for their window not polycarb. After 4 dives the stress was too much and material fatigue set in. ..
'Fatigue'?! What's that? Posted by: Chief Designer commenting thru his Xbox at June 22, 2023 01:35 PM (CaJIi) And don't start up again with that "micro-cracks forming in acrylic' crap! Posted by: OceanGate CEO at June 22, 2023 02:23 PM (AMIL/) 548
Gonna wear out those burning skulls when ace gets around to noticing.
@FOOL_NELSON "The FBI verified [the laptop's] authenticity in November of 2019". Posted by: JackStraw at June 22, 2023 02:24 PM (ZLI7S) 549
This nation has become way way way too risk averse.
Mike Rowe once did a very nice "rant" about "safety first." Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 22, 2023 02:19 PM (ppBhU) The alternative is hardly to commit to being "sense averse". Which is all to common these days. Posted by: Oldcat at June 22, 2023 02:24 PM (eoQWY) 550
Completely OT.
Watching Joseph Carter the Mink Man clearing g out rat infestations with his two mink and some doggos Hearing the rats scream in terror makes my black heart smile. Posted by: BifBewalski at June 22, 2023 02:24 PM (3CCua) 551
It's something entirely different to drag others to their doom in your hubris.
Posted by: Halfhand True. But not, i think, relevant to $250 000 per ticket paying passengers, as in this case … Posted by: Adriane the Bad Poetry Critic . . . at June 22, 2023 02:24 PM (jonTH) 552
In 2018, Rush was sent a letter by the Marine Technology Society, a professional society of ocean engineers, academics and other peers. The letter, obtained by the New York Times, warns Rush of their “unanimous concern” about the Titan.
I don't think that Rush ignored them maliciously, because he went down in the sub as well. He probably thought he knew better than all those lame-ass 50 year old white guy engineers, so- I guess it's a just(?) thing that he was there when the sub failed. Not that he deserved to die but rather he was there when the bill came due for his hubris. Posted by: naturalfake at June 22, 2023 02:25 PM (fb7jX) 553
Yup. Progress is expensive and dangerous. I don't know that this sub qualifies, exactly because it is retreading old ground for different purposes, but the point remains.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 22, 2023 02:20 PM (t0OGg) ________________________________________________ Sure, I agree - if you're actually pioneering something and not just engaging in some expensive figurative onanism. I cannot equate this sub trip to flying to the moon, Columbus sailing the ocean blue in 1492 or the Wright Brothers. Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at June 22, 2023 02:26 PM (oxSjI) 554
I would consider getting lost treking to find the South Pole a tragedy. The risk is built in, accepted, but still the loss of life itself is negative. This is somewhat similar. Its a known potential outcome, that they all could have avoided, but chose not to. However, it wasn't for the betterment of mankind, but for sightseeing/thrillseeking. So it is not exactly a selfless act of courage either. Somebody was trying to turn a profit on the enterprise.
Posted by: the media are idiots at June 22, 2023 02:26 PM (sh1GZ) Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 22, 2023 02:29 PM (qZnD2) 556
> "Dust off the burning skull. Add a crack pipe."
https://tinyurl.com/mr2nbk8k Posted by: JackStraw Yep. But also followed by the usual chorus of "Nothing will happen." Posted by: Just reporting at June 22, 2023 02:30 PM (w7elb) 557
I would consider getting lost treking to find the South Pole a tragedy. The risk is built in, accepted, but still the loss of life itself is negative. This is somewhat similar. Its a known potential outcome, that they all could have avoided, but chose not to. However, it wasn't for the betterment of mankind, but for sightseeing/thrillseeking. So it is not exactly a selfless act of courage either. Somebody was trying to turn a profit on the enterprise.
Posted by: the media are idiots at June 22, 2023 02:26 PM (sh1GZ) You don't think the explorers of old or recent times didn't have thoughts about making money on their endeavors? I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you. Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at June 22, 2023 02:31 PM (BdMk6) 558
Stupidity should be painful. If only for a millisecond.
Posted by: Sharkman ------ I have a bumper sticker, 'Too Bad Ignorance Isn't Painful' Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 22, 2023 02:32 PM (bJHK5) 559
546 Perhaps a better question would been does a hang glider who flies into the side of a cliff deserve to have 10 members of a Search and Rescue team and four helicopter crew members risk their lives to haul his shattered carcass off the side of the mountain?
Posted by: Muldoon at June 22, 2023 02:09 PM (kXYt5) You can pretty much assure that he is going to pay for it, just like the guy who rolls his car on the interstate and needs the lifeflight. And of course S&R like that sort of work, it pays well and they get an excuse to do the fun stuff. I knew a guy who got out of jump school and was considering being a smoke jumper because he like parachuting. I am not convinced anyone deserves anything, though. Posted by: Kindltot at June 22, 2023 02:23 PM (xhaym) The only big questions now are: When do the USCG, USN, Canadian Navy, and all the other governmental outfits head home? When do the commercial and scientific outfits participating up to now present a bill for services performed and an estimated cost per day if hired for debris location and recovery work? Posted by: OceanGate CEO at June 22, 2023 02:34 PM (AMIL/) 560
319 >Yeah, lots of references to hull compression in submarine movies. You'd think that's something they'd take into account. Maybe not, though.
yes but in the movies it's just a leaky pipe that sprays everybody, until The Grizzled Veteran grabs a wrench and tightens something but that only works if you actually hire the 50 year old white guy with experience. Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2023 02:36 PM (sGtp+) 561
I guess I was't clear. I think it is a good thing that people, including billionaire tourists push the boundaries in ways that expand our knowledge of the world rather than only seeking thrills through drugs. But even so, their deaths barely trigger any empathy response from me. So in a sense I'm not much better than the commies crowing that evil rich people deserved to die.
Posted by: PaleRider at June 22, 2023 02:37 PM (3cGpq) 562
but that only works if you actually hire the 50 year old white guy with experience.
Posted by: anachronda at June 22, 2023 02:36 PM (sGtp+) That experienced 50 year old white guy is probably writing his own checks now. His job market value just went up, a lot. Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at June 22, 2023 02:41 PM (OgrpQ) 563
Pooky actually isn't a psychopath, according to his therapist. He loves his wife and daughter too much for that, but he still mock-pouts about losing the designation once in awhile.
Posted by: pookysgirl can list some other diagnoses at June 22, 2023 02:42 PM (dtlDP) 564
I laughed when the pirates got their heads blown off at the end of "Captain Phillips " does that make me a psychopath?
Posted by: Joe kidtoucher at June 22, 2023 03:03 PM (W+TLY) 565
35 Where is Admiral ManInDress when we need him?
Posted by: Captain Nemo at June 22, 2023 01:17 PM (lZVy/) --- Right here, thailor! Swab my poopdeck! Posted by: The_Hoser at June 22, 2023 03:12 PM (N66D6) 566
The good news: there are NO ’50-Year-Old White Guys’ With Experience’ worried about their liability
Posted by: Neo at June 22, 2023 03:18 PM (RovqD) 567
"Shayna...they bought their tickets. They knew what they were getting into. I say...LET 'EM DROWN!"
Posted by: Counter Point at June 22, 2023 03:20 PM (osaBc) 568
172 Hey, I almost lost a sub once!!!
Posted by: Jussie Smullett at June 22, 2023 01:31 PM (N39Ws) LOL Posted by: m at June 22, 2023 03:52 PM (LodBx) Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 22, 2023 04:06 PM (wtvvX) 570
Lots of people telling lots of dark jokes about the submarine. I don't have a problem with that. Some are funny and some aren't.
But wishing someone you hate onto the sub is sort of different. Posted by: Synova at June 22, 2023 04:19 PM (BD/yx) 571
It doesn't bother me when the left gloats over their political opponents' misfortune.
I want them dead, too. Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at June 22, 2023 04:20 PM (Qt4kF) 572
Past Crush Depth Implosion like the Thresher and Scorpion and Polidor
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at June 22, 2023 04:37 PM (wGqjj) 573
Give me a break. Go over instapanzy for your fill of conservative mockery. Conservatives fill the same ranks of pussiified ossified mockers as Leftists. Just another reveal of our shared American "values". Not that it was necessary. Covid and the Biden/McConnell cabal's Russian proxy war revealed this already. Sad. The only remedy is a mirror and a sharp slap to the face.
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