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Paul Ryan Tells Conservatives To Stop Fighting the Culture War, Because It's "Polarizing"

Behold the cvck:

David Strom comments:


Ryan is wrong about us having a choice about fighting a culture war because, frankly, we are not the aggressors in this war. Conservatives are not opening women's locker rooms and women's sports to men; conservatives aren't grooming children with porn in the schools and hiding their children's mental health from parents; conservatives aren't engaged in pushing a "not-so-secret" queer agenda in children's programming. And conservatives are not pushing a radical ideology that begins with the assumption that America is evil and that Western Civilization needs to be destroyed.

The Left is, and they own the institutions. They can censor us, cancel us, deprive us of jobs, sic the FBI after us, and even change laws in a manner designed to protect pedophiles.

Unless you are willing to submit to their demands, your only alternative is to fight back.

Paul Ryan is arguing we should submit.

No. Hell no!

...

Paul Ryan is just plain wrong, and he is wrong because he believes that conservatives are trying to fight against an inevitable social movement and that the game isn’t worth the candle. What he fails to understand is that there is nothing organic about the social changes happening–they are the result of an effort to undermine our social order, and that effort can be blocked.


Relatedly, Megachurch pastor Rick Warren is fighting for more female pastors.


Southern Baptists are meeting in New Orleans for their annual convention this week. Megachurch Pastor Rick Warren, author of the bestselling book The Purpose-Driven Life, is waging war with the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), hoping to push the denomination to the left on the issue of female pastors.

Warren, now "retired" but still listed as the Founding Pastor on Saddleback Church's website, is pressuring the SBC to allow female pastors, contrary to clear biblical teaching that pastoral roles are reserved for men.

Warren has been all over Twitter, TikTok, and YouTube this past week, viciously attacking his opponents (while calling for love and reconciliation). He's become increasingly combative, calling his opponents "angry fundamentalists," "angry fighters," and "legalist showmen." (I'll leave it up to readers to determine who's playing the role of "showman" in this debate.)

Posted by: Ace at 01:00 PM




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1 Piss off dog boy

Posted by: Bete at June 15, 2023 01:02 PM (BRhwL)

2 Here.

Posted by: RI Red at June 15, 2023 01:03 PM (XUb30)

3 First

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at June 15, 2023 01:03 PM (+ldAm)

4 And I voted for this choad. Thought he'd Ballenger Rombley. Seriously, how do I have a right to vote given my record?

Posted by: Bete at June 15, 2023 01:03 PM (BRhwL)

5 Surrender early and often ... is it less polarizing.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 15, 2023 01:03 PM (Cus5s)

6 Paul Ryan is a spineless corporate whore.

Posted by: Jl97332 at June 15, 2023 01:03 PM (nJxdl)

7 Nope.. silly phone. Anyway, Paul can suck a big hairy puss infested three day old severed cock.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at June 15, 2023 01:03 PM (+ldAm)

8 Before the GOPe gave up on the culture war

There was no gay marriage
Trannies were considered mentally ill
You didn't need to parrot some crazy person's custom pronouns
Child grooming was against the law...and enforced.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 15, 2023 01:04 PM (lc5cP)

9 Was it Jeb Bush who proposed a stalemate on the culture war?

It was some candidate in 2016.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:04 PM (LvTSG)

10
Paul Ryan, Culture War Rump Ranger: "Permanent estrus is no big deal -- merely a minor inconvenience!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot Egg-Fried: Did you clowns think that I was joking? at June 15, 2023 01:04 PM (pNxlR)

11 Paul must love those sermons when the priest talks that living one's faith isn't just attending mass.

Posted by: Bete at June 15, 2023 01:04 PM (BRhwL)

12 Remember this golden oldie of Joe Biden dunking Paul Ryan's head in a toilet over and over.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=05VnURkqjXs

Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2023 01:04 PM (hOPog)

13 And social conservativism is more popular then fiscal conservatism anyway

Remember, banning gay marriage was a winning issue in...deep blue CA.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 15, 2023 01:05 PM (lc5cP)

14 Paul Ryan is just plain wrong, and he is wrong because he believes that conservatives are trying to fight against an inevitable social movement and that the game isn�t worth the candle. What he fails to understand is that there is nothing organic about the social changes happening�they are the result of an effort to undermine our social order, and that effort can be blocked.

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Alternate theory:

Paul Ryan is a progressive and wants conservatives to stop opposing his actual allies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:05 PM (LvTSG)

15 Paul Ryan can f*ck himself raw. We are defending ourselves and our children from the left's all out assault in the culture war. Ryan's position is that we should bend over and take it.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 15, 2023 01:05 PM (YQ4mh)

16 Afternoon.

So, what, does Paul Ryan think child sex abuse is a fad that will go away on its own?

"Come on, guys! The weirdos won't wag their dicks in your kids' faces forever. They'll get tired of it eventually."

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2023 01:06 PM (1Yy3c)

17 Losing to this...

Breaking911 @Breaking911
WATCH: President Biden says the US has “plans to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean."

https://tinyurl.com/2s3rwuhh
15 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 15, 2023 01:06 PM (Vwz3I)

18 I think that Paul Ryan is not unfamiliar with the taste of penis.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 15, 2023 01:06 PM (aD39U)

19 16 Afternoon.

So, what, does Paul Ryan think child sex abuse is a fad that will go away on its own?

"Come on, guys! The weirdos won't wag their dicks in your kids' faces forever. They'll get tired of it eventually."
Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2023 01:06 PM (1Yy3c)

=======

Or, he's in favor of it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:06 PM (LvTSG)

20 Fiscal conservative but socially liberal.

What a gross lie.

Say, Paulie boy-- if you don't want to fight a cultural war, you have no problem cutting leftists social programs, right?

Which one? How about cutting funding to planned Parenthood? How about cutting DIE salaries?

Oh right-- you will defend the funding of all of them. Meaning, you ARE willing to fight a culture war-- for the left.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 15, 2023 01:07 PM (Et4sD)

21 Paul Ryan likes sucking cock

and swallowing

Posted by: REDACTED at June 15, 2023 01:07 PM (us2H3)

22 Used to be my Rep... what a jerk.

Posted by: henry at June 15, 2023 01:07 PM (JMDly)

23 17 Losing to this...

Breaking911 @Breaking911
WATCH: President Biden says the US has “plans to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean."

https://tinyurl.com/2s3rwuhh
15 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 15, 2023 01:06 PM (Vwz3I)

========

"By choice."
-The GOPe, refusing any effort to fight voter fraud anywhere

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:07 PM (LvTSG)

24 >>And I voted for this choad. Thought he'd Ballenger Rombley. Seriously, how do I have a right to vote given my record?
Posted by: Bete at June 15, 2023 01:03 PM (BRhwL)

Don't be too hard on yourself, he had many voters fooled.

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at June 15, 2023 01:07 PM (yRZyK)

25 This can't be good.

Posted by: Guy who thinks nothing is good. at June 15, 2023 01:07 PM (or2+y)

26 Yup, ghoulish sexual deviants targeting our kids, grooming them to be deviant, sterilized and surgically maimed sure is POLARIZING!


Oh wait — he calls noticing that polarizing.
(Redacted to not get banned)

Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2023 01:07 PM (Rx/A9)

27 It's much easier to get people to rally around morals and right and wrong versus let's make Wall Street richer.

Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2023 01:07 PM (hOPog)

28 So Rick Warren has gone all Tim Keller, huh?

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 15, 2023 01:07 PM (YQ4mh)

29 Wow. Paul Ryan sure hit the wall. Hard.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at June 15, 2023 01:07 PM (A6pYJ)

30
wtf? The question is, for once, rational because it's specific to state and local politics where it belongs.

What school board or city can tackle China and Biden's debt crisis?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 15, 2023 01:07 PM (lCaJd)

31 "clear biblical teaching that pastoral roles are reserved for men."
-----
This is pretty clear....

Posted by: lin-duh at June 15, 2023 01:07 PM (RRoc1)

32 The SBC voted (with an 80% majority) to amend their constitution to specifically disallow female pastors. Also, they affirmed (with an 88.5% majority) to uphold the expulsion of that grifter Warren and Saddleback Church from the SBC.

Posted by: Bert G at June 15, 2023 01:08 PM (VARTN)

33 Just lay down and take it.

Posted by: Paul Ryan Sooper-conservative Leader at June 15, 2023 01:08 PM (53oGX)

34 He is being blackmailed. What do they have on him?

Posted by: torabora at June 15, 2023 01:08 PM (1kHeM)

35 Losing to this...

Breaking911 @Breaking911
WATCH: President Biden says the US has “plans to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean."

https://tinyurl.com/2s3rwuhh
15 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 15, 2023 01:06 PM (Vwz3I)

If we can fly a man to the moon...

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2023 01:08 PM (1Yy3c)

36 Yeah, Paul, you go with that.

Endless wars, endless deficits, the weaponization of the federal government against us, and global warming BS---none of that is polarizing at all.

Dumbass.

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at June 15, 2023 01:08 PM (gf7Ez)

37 32 The SBC voted (with an 80% majority) to amend their constitution to specifically disallow female pastors. Also, they affirmed (with an 88.5% majority) to uphold the expulsion of that grifter Warren and Saddleback Church from the SBC.
Posted by: Bert G at June 15, 2023 01:08 PM (VARTN)

=======

Splitters!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:08 PM (LvTSG)

38 Paul Ryan hoping to get in on that Hot Frank Luntz actionz.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2023 01:08 PM (DXikM)

39 Surrender early and often ... is it less polarizing.

Endorsed.

Posted by: The French at June 15, 2023 01:08 PM (eOEVl)

40 Ryan is the guy who got his ass handed to him by Laughing Drunk Joe in a debate, right?

Posted by: wth at June 15, 2023 01:09 PM (v0R5T)

41 Paul Ryan claimed to be pro-life. I believed him until R's had all 3 branches of govt and he did NOTHING to defund PP.

I just don't understand what happened to him. Was he just lying all along? Or did he get brainwashed?

Posted by: Iris at June 15, 2023 01:09 PM (NaH5I)

42 And I voted for this choad. Thought he'd Ballenger Rombley. Seriously, how do I have a right to vote given my record?
Posted by: Bete at June 15, 2023 01:03 PM (BRhwL)


Illegal aliens and the profoundly developmentally disabled institutionalized patients vote. You might as well too.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 15, 2023 01:09 PM (xhaym)

43 34 He is being blackmailed. What do they have on him?
Posted by: torabora at June 15, 2023 01:08 PM (1kHeM)

=======

I seriously doubt it.

I would imagine he just supports the left in every effort.

What gives you the idea that he doesn't?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:09 PM (LvTSG)

44 @DykesOnTheRight > Dykes on Bikes

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 15, 2023 01:09 PM (+z+6a)

45 Paul Ryan Tells Conservatives To Stop Fighting the Culture War, Because It's "Polarizing"

Thank you, Paul, that is how we know to do the opposite. WTF are you even doing, 'advising' conservatives?!

Posted by: t-bird at June 15, 2023 01:09 PM (CaJIi)

46 You're so gay, you probably think this song is about you, don't you, don't you ?

Posted by: Carly Horsemouth Simon at June 15, 2023 01:09 PM (NtVYv)

47 Paul Ryan...fuck that guy in particular

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 15, 2023 01:09 PM (YRsIm)

48 Everyone be gay!!!

Posted by: Paul Ryan at June 15, 2023 01:09 PM (or2+y)

49 Yes, Ryan is a fiscal con -- that's why he refused to fund PDT's border wall.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 15, 2023 01:09 PM (Vwz3I)

50 41 Paul Ryan claimed to be pro-life. I believed him until R's had all 3 branches of govt and he did NOTHING to defund PP.

I just don't understand what happened to him. Was he just lying all along? Or did he get brainwashed?
Posted by: Iris at June 15, 2023 01:09 PM (NaH5I)

========

"We can't defund PP, it might lose us the next election."
-Paul Ryan in early 2017, already with plans to lose the next election

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:09 PM (LvTSG)

51 FBI Source: Bidens 'Coerced' Burisma To Pay $10 Million In Bribes

Posted by: SMOD at June 15, 2023 01:09 PM (RHGPo)

52 So. . . Who in his family works for PP, or is he otherwise invested?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2023 01:09 PM (Rx/A9)

53 I have a female pastor and don't even think about it. It baffles me why some are so opposed, but that's their choice.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 01:10 PM (eOEVl)

54 I mean how many people even live in the Sudetenland anyway?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 15, 2023 01:10 PM (9UlRk)

55 There is only one party. If you need further proof, see for example Paul Ryan.

Posted by: Its a puppet show at June 15, 2023 01:10 PM (sh1GZ)

56 Orginally I thought the Deep State had pictures of Mr Ryan tossing back some Zimas with his gym bros.

Now I'm wondering if they've got him swallowing Bud Light with some Cheese Pizza.

Posted by: Obligatory at June 15, 2023 01:10 PM (lc5cP)

57 Hey! Groomers! Leave them kids alone!

Posted by: Fink Ployd at June 15, 2023 01:10 PM (fE1zA)

58 40 Ryan is the guy who got his ass handed to him by Laughing Drunk Joe in a debate, right?
Posted by: wth at June 15, 2023 01:09 PM (v0R5T)

That's the Democrat's view, yes. I can't stand Paul Ryan, but Joe Biden was clearly a mental patient in that debate.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 15, 2023 01:10 PM (YQ4mh)

59 You know, Fox is still looking for Carson's replacement. Maybe Paul can take over so his views aren't as hidden as his work on the board.

Posted by: Bete at June 15, 2023 01:11 PM (BRhwL)

60 Paul Ryan Tells Conservatives To Stop Fighting the Culture War, Because It's "Polarizing"

Thank you, Paul, that is how we know to do the opposite. WTF are you even doing, 'advising' conservatives?!


Exactly. When I want some s*** out of you, Paul, I'll squeeze your head.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 01:11 PM (eOEVl)

61 I always found it weird that the GOP response to winning a historic election in 2010 was to install Ryan as speaker

like casting a limey as the lead in GWTW

Posted by: REDACTED at June 15, 2023 01:11 PM (us2H3)

62 So Rick Warren has gone all Tim Keller, huh?
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 15, 2023 01:07 PM (YQ4mh)

Not yet. Tim Keller died in May.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office at June 15, 2023 01:11 PM (Keyt1)

63 Paul Ryan is a chump, Mitt Romney but sniffer

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 15, 2023 01:11 PM (NtVYv)

64 Oh, Paul Ryan doesn't understand that politics is downstream from culture?

Alternatively. he understands it *perfectly*.

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 15, 2023 01:11 PM (wNDOJ)

65 @DykesOnTheRight > Dykes on Bikes

Um...I'm confused now.

Posted by: Some Durch boy at June 15, 2023 01:11 PM (lc5cP)

66 P90-Cux

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2023 01:11 PM (DXikM)

67 Ask old school liberals in big cities how "culture war pacifism" has gone for them against progressives.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 15, 2023 01:11 PM (k1Qly)

68 So I just realized that the acronym for Gays Against Groomers is GAG.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 15, 2023 01:11 PM (MvF+J)

69 Ryan is the guy who got his ass handed to him by Laughing Drunk Joe in a debate, right?
Posted by: wth


To Be Fair™ Joe was in full six-shooter, pull-my-finger mode so Ryno didn't stand a mug's chance.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 15, 2023 01:11 PM (jzzG8)

70 Ryan simply reflects the view of 80-85 percent of elected Republicans. He's hardly an outlier. His biggest delusion is that Cultural Marxism will not lead to Economic Marxism. It inevitably will. The culture war has to be fought regardless (and we are losing but there are flickers), but the insane belief that Economic Marxism can be kept at bay by embracing the communist social program is fucking insane. And, again, that's the belief of the vast majority of elected Republicans.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 15, 2023 01:11 PM (KSNKu)

71 Everyone is telling us to quit the culture war b/c we are WINNING! Never back down when you're in front. Keep racking up win after win, and make them come to you for the settlement.

Posted by: Nova Local at June 15, 2023 01:12 PM (exHjb)

72 Oh, Paul Ryan doesn't understand that politics is downstream from culture?

Alternatively. he understands it *perfectly*.


There it is.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 01:12 PM (eOEVl)

73 re: "Paul Ryan is just plain wrong, and he is wrong because he believes that conservatives are trying to fight against an inevitable social movement and that the game isn't worth the candle."

i've said many times that many repubs act as if socialism is inevitable so there's no reason to try and stop it. let's just make the govt more efficient so we get our share of the graft without too many people noticing.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 15, 2023 01:12 PM (B1FKF)

74 TJM.
**shakes head at Ryan quote***
what a loser/liar/total POS

Take the d**m hill!

Posted by: Iris at June 15, 2023 01:12 PM (NaH5I)

75 Clearly discussing trannies terrorizing school children is a losing issue.

Instead lets talk about cutting social security!

Posted by: Paul Ryan at June 15, 2023 01:12 PM (lc5cP)

76 Ive said I don't necessarily think ther culture war, for the presidential level, should be the top 3 of topics, but It should be a strong 4th behind economy, the border, and crime.

Where i think it's better is actually as a rebuttle. Democrats know they can't win on those top 3 issues as their failures are glaring and have caused the country so much harm. So any candidate, and I think this is where DeSantis will do better than Trump, needs to lure Democrats in to being the ones that mention book bans, trannies, and other liberal obsessions that destroy children. Make Biden stumble in to claiming DeSantis is banning books, so Ron can push Biden to support the pr0n that's being pushed on kid by liberals, hell better yet he can shame Biden into doing a press conference where he reads it with pictures and all, to America, if it's such a clean and wholesome book. If Biden brings up tranny rights, push back by showing the mental ill people Biden defiled the white house lawn with, and show everyone the tweets where the WH said they own everyone's children.

Posted by: Rbastid at June 15, 2023 01:12 PM (rMqsK)

77 Why I detest the GOP
reason 12,678

This backstabbing cuck is still bossing Conservatives around from his perch at Faux News. And sadly, A large number of conservatives continue to passively suck up the bullshit from that propaganda peddler

Posted by: The GOP, funding the police state since 2001 at June 15, 2023 01:12 PM (ExFoQ)

78 Paul Ryan hugs his rice bowl every night.

Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2023 01:12 PM (rj6Yv)

79 Paul Ryan hoping to get in on that Hot Frank Luntz actionz.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2023 01:08 PM (DXikM)

--------

Too late, Kevin McCarthy is a one-man man.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 15, 2023 01:13 PM (+z+6a)

80 A cuck said what?

Posted by: Pudinhead at June 15, 2023 01:13 PM (bA3Ln)

81 I have a female pastor and don't even think about it. It baffles me why some are so opposed, but that's their choice.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 01:10 PM (eOEVl)



The LCMS has Deaconesses. But no women in spiritual authority.

Paul said no on that, though it seems unclear to me if that was for that time, or for all time. But we err on the side of caution, as it were.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 15, 2023 01:13 PM (aD39U)

82 I have a female pastor and don't even think about it. It baffles me why some are so opposed, but that's their choice.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 01:10 PM (eOEVl)

I just assume it's a rule because most guys would find the décolletage distracting.

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2023 01:13 PM (1Yy3c)

83 So he doesn't think there's anything polarizing about mutilating the genitals of children?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at June 15, 2023 01:13 PM (v6kjX)

84 In happier news, the SBC has already given Rick Warren the back of its collective hand.

Posted by: The GOP, funding the police state since 2001 at June 15, 2023 01:13 PM (ExFoQ)

85 re 61: no, worse than ryan, boehner.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at June 15, 2023 01:13 PM (B1FKF)

86 and one of the largest solar plants in the world in Angola
.......

Solar powered mud huts? That's going to do wonders for us here in the US, Joe.

Posted by: wth at June 15, 2023 01:14 PM (v0R5T)

87 Piss off Rick Warren. He's retired because he made his money with his book and left Saddleback. He needs to fade away. Female pastors equals more lenient churches and next they'll want lesbian pastors or trans pastors. Not happening.

Posted by: Jaimo at June 15, 2023 01:14 PM (DBrN4)

88 83 So he doesn't think there's anything polarizing about mutilating the genitals of children?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at June 15, 2023 01:13 PM (v6kjX)

========

It's a blessing of liberty.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:14 PM (LvTSG)

89 53 I have a female pastor and don't even think about it. It baffles me why some are so opposed, but that's their choice.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 01:10 PM (eOEVl)

There's no reason to be baffled unless you choose to be. People who believe that the bible instructs that only men can be pastors are not shy or ashamed to explain their reasoning.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 15, 2023 01:14 PM (YQ4mh)

90 What school board or city can tackle China and Biden's debt crisis?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 15, 2023 01:07 PM (lCaJd)


There is real wisdom in "clean your room" in that it gets you focused on making the world better in some way, and not focusing on tasks that are impossible to tackle without a) practice, b) backing, and c) position.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 15, 2023 01:14 PM (xhaym)

91 Ryan sounds like a No Labels kind of guy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 15, 2023 01:14 PM (63Dwl)

92 Of course, part of the Culture War is complete suppression of freedom of speech, but Ryan probably approves of that.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at June 15, 2023 01:14 PM (2tUFv)

93 Ask old school liberals in big cities how "culture war pacifism" has gone for them against progressives.

Our police unit will be there within the hour. Probably.

In the meantime have you tried politely asking the intruder to stop raping you?

I see...Yes, yes, I'll quickly translate that into Spanish for you

Posted by: Blue Shithole Police Dispatcher at June 15, 2023 01:14 PM (lc5cP)

94 How about this Paul, grab some body oil and spend a romantic weekend with Hunter.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:14 PM (zZu0s)

95 "Ryan is wrong..."


Correction: Ryan is *lying*

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 15, 2023 01:15 PM (wNDOJ)

96 It's Suburbanite Disease.

The worst thing in the world is to be seen as Unaccepting.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 15, 2023 01:15 PM (9UlRk)

97 the PJM anti-Warren thing is telling.

Having female pastors is not woke, and the SBC is genuinely headed toward Taliban territory in their efforts to push women out of ministry in practically all forms.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2023 01:15 PM (z/ifB)

98 Paul Ryan claimed to be pro-life. I believed him until R's had all 3 branches of govt and he did NOTHING to defund PP.

I just don't understand what happened to him. Was he just lying all along? Or did he get brainwashed?
Posted by: Iris at June 15, 2023 01:09 PM (NaH5I)


I'll save you the mental anguish - he was lying.

They all lie.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 15, 2023 01:15 PM (AW0uW)

99 next they'll want lesbian pastors or trans pastors. Not happening.Posted by: Jaimo at June 15, 2023 01:14 PM (DBrN4)

Well, lesbian or trans pastors is not happening in the church I serve, not as long as I'm the pastor.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office at June 15, 2023 01:15 PM (Keyt1)

100 I just assume it's a rule because most guys would find the décolletage distracting.

Right? They need to stop wearing the slutty minister cassocks, at least for anytime other than Halloween.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 01:15 PM (eOEVl)

101 >>I have a female pastor and don't even think about it. It baffles me why some are so opposed, but that's their choice.


I can't listen to a woman. Any woman.

Their voices are in a register I, apparently, refuse to hear.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2023 01:15 PM (DXikM)

102 Drivin that train
High on Chow Mein
Joey Biden, watch your speed

Whales ahead,
Whales behind
And you know that ocean just crossed my mind

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 15, 2023 01:15 PM (NtVYv)

103 The more I hear about this Paul Ryan guy, the more I don't like him.

Posted by: eleven at June 15, 2023 01:15 PM (iziT8)

104 I will listen to them sing. But that's where I draw the line.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2023 01:16 PM (DXikM)

105 The more I hear about this Paul Ryan guy, the more I don't like him.
Posted by: eleven at June 15, 2023 01:15 PM (iziT



He and his blue ox can get fucked.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 15, 2023 01:16 PM (aD39U)

106 How about this Paul, grab some body oil and spend a romantic weekend with Hunter.

That guy is more yellow then Fang Fang eating a bowl of Szechuan soup while giving Eric Swallwell a massage with a happy ending.

NO YELLOW

Posted by: Hunter Biden at June 15, 2023 01:16 PM (lc5cP)

107 92 Of course, part of the Culture War is complete suppression of freedom of speech, but Ryan probably approves of that.
Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at June 15, 2023 01:14 PM (2tUFv)

This is one of the most surreal parts of all of this: how MANY of the GOPe are complete and utter fakes on sacred traditional God given rights.

There are times when I just stop and wonder 'what the fuck?' Of course, that shows the wisdom of the founders in wanting to completely circumscribe the government's power and it's ability to acquire more.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:16 PM (zZu0s)

108 I'm still convinced Paul Ryan is ghey.
Possibly worse

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 15, 2023 01:16 PM (EGSGm)

109 TJM.
**shakes head at Ryan quote***
what a loser/liar/total POS

Take the d**m hill!

Posted by: Iris at June 15, 2023 01:12 PM (NaH5I)

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"The brainwashing, drugging, sexualization, mutilation, and eventual seizure & raping of your children is not the hill to die on, rube. SEND MOAR MONEY!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 15, 2023 01:17 PM (+z+6a)

110 62 So Rick Warren has gone all Tim Keller, huh?
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 15, 2023 01:07 PM (YQ4mh)

Not yet. Tim Keller died in May.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office at June 15, 2023 01:11 PM (Keyt1)

Not my point--I assume everyone remembers Keller died recently, and we're all going to die. Maybe I shouldn't have assumed that everyone also knew that Keller went from conservative Christian titan to woke evangelist in his later years. I didn't know until now that Rick Warren seems to be embarking on a similar journey.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 15, 2023 01:17 PM (YQ4mh)

111 I can't listen to a woman. Any woman.

Their voices are in a register I, apparently, refuse to hear.
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Yep. That and they have tits which impairs my hearing as well.

Posted by: Pudinhead at June 15, 2023 01:17 PM (bA3Ln)

112 Female pastors equals more lenient churches and next they'll want lesbian pastors or trans pastors. Not happening.

We’ve already seen the same thing happen in corporations, and in government. Churches are not immune. Put women in positions of leadership, prepare to make a hard left turn

Posted by: The GOP, funding the police state since 2001 at June 15, 2023 01:17 PM (ExFoQ)

113 Well, lesbian or trans pastors is not happening in the church I serve, not as long as I'm the pastor.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office at June 15, 2023 01:15 PM (Keyt1)

It's the "as long as" part that the tell of the slippery slope...

Posted by: Iris at June 15, 2023 01:17 PM (NaH5I)

114 I have a female pastor and don't even think about it. It baffles me why some are so opposed, but that's their choice.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 01:10 PM (eOEVl)

There's no reason to be baffled unless you choose to be. People who believe that the bible instructs that only men can be pastors are not shy or ashamed to explain their reasoning.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 15, 2023 01:14 PM (YQ4mh)

Yeah, it's not like a lot of ink and bits have been spent explaining why it is unbiblical. You can disagree. You shouldn't say you are confused by it.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 15, 2023 01:18 PM (GNPj+)

115 I'm still convinced Paul Ryan is ghey.
Possibly worse


It isn't gay if you lift weights after.

Or I mean, I'm not gay

Posted by: Paul Ryan at June 15, 2023 01:18 PM (lc5cP)

116 Ryan is a Desimp. Just sayin'

Posted by: Cory C at June 15, 2023 01:18 PM (5yr79)

117 Paul Ryan is a progressive and wants conservatives to stop opposing his actual allies.
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Heh. There's really no reasonable doubt at this point.

Most of the people in power, get there because they are in the uniparty. That's how they get a leg up. We only rarely see someone who is outside the uniparty these days. And they are marginalized as much as possible. Like Tucker says, the whole thing is a scripted puppet show, the only time the Parties are on the same side in public is when there's a War to grift off of.

Posted by: Its a puppet show, a disgusting puppet show of malice, blood and greed at June 15, 2023 01:18 PM (sh1GZ)

118 Irene Ryan >>>>> Paul Ryan

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:18 PM (K8wm4)

119 >>That and they have tits which impairs my hearing as well.


Closed Captioning would help...

If it scrolled across their boobs.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2023 01:18 PM (DXikM)

120 I have little boys buried under the floor boards of my rumpus room.

Posted by: Paul Ryan at June 15, 2023 01:18 PM (flINI)

121 Ryan is a Desimp.


Do I dare google that?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 15, 2023 01:19 PM (aD39U)

122 Hate to agree somewhat , because I totally respect Fen, but *in general * women pastors/Episcopal priests are lefties who promote endorsing that stuff via Christianity.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2023 01:19 PM (Rx/A9)

123

Looks like the piece of shit is aging. Maybe the quisling can put a pencil behind his ear and quote Rand again.

Guy is a fucking disaster. Must be bought. Kiddie diddler? Banging teens? Gay?

Yeah he gives a flying fuck about debt and taxes. That is hilarious.

Posted by: Rev Dr Happy Hands at June 15, 2023 01:19 PM (UCNv1)

124 We’ve already seen the same thing happen in corporations, and in government. Churches are not immune. Put women in positions of leadership, prepare to make a hard left turn
Posted by: The GOP, funding the police state since 2001 at June 15, 2023 01:17 PM (ExFoQ)

So, you believe your lying eyes?

Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 15, 2023 01:19 PM (GNPj+)

125 4 And I voted for this choad. Thought he'd Ballenger Rombley. Seriously, how do I have a right to vote given my record?
Posted by: Bete at June 15, 2023 01:03 PM (BRhwL)


I haven't seen you posting in a while. Glad you're still around!

But, yeah, my voting record has been pretty shit in hindsight. That my votes been for the "lesser evil" is of little consolation now that we're in the end times for Western civilization.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 15, 2023 01:19 PM (DTX3h)

126 Having female pastors is not woke, and the SBC is genuinely headed toward Taliban territory in their efforts to push women out of ministry in practically all forms.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2023 01:15 PM (z/ifB)

________________

Not trying to start some shit here (probably unavoidable, but fuggit), but since women are the primary vectors of woke bullshit BY FAR, and the SBC is eaten up with woke bullshit, it doesn't seem outrageous (to my outsider eyes, at least) to keep them out of positions of influence until they can get their heads on straight.

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 15, 2023 01:19 PM (wNDOJ)

127 121 Ryan is a Desimp.


Do I dare google that?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 15, 2023 01:19 PM (aD39U)

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Someone who has expressed support of DeSantis, which means that DeSantis, who has done real things to fight the culture war, must be a Ryan clone.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:19 PM (LvTSG)

128 Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 15, 2023 01:17 PM (YQ4mh)

I know what you meant. I was making a joke.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office at June 15, 2023 01:19 PM (Keyt1)

129 There's a certain arrogance about thinking male-only pastors is necessarily unfair to women. (Maybe arrogance isn't the right word). The restriction may very well be due not to any shortcoming inherent in women that they *can't* do the job, but in the shortcoming in the job itself, how it is so deeply morally straining and damaging to the soul of the pastor, that women are kept from the position in deference to their higher standing over dirty, rough, disposable men.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 15, 2023 01:19 PM (9UlRk)

130 Chicks

Girls

Women

Ladies.


Amirite?

Posted by: eleven at June 15, 2023 01:19 PM (iziT8)

131 How do you interview Paul Ryan and not ask him why Fox fired Tucker.

Ryan is on the Fox News board of directors.

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at June 15, 2023 01:20 PM (V6W16)

132 Yep. That and they have tits which impairs my hearing as well.
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Wait?! WUT?! I have tits too, hmmm, maybe that's why my ratings suffered?!!!!

Posted by: Brian Stetler at June 15, 2023 01:20 PM (sh1GZ)

133 Drivin that train
High on Chow Mein
Joey Biden, watch your speed

Whales ahead,
Whales behind
And you know that ocean just crossed my mind

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 15, 2023 01:15 PM (NtVYv)
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PJ Media Headline: "Biden Wants to Build an 8,000-Mile Ocean Train, and I Say Let's Do This!"

Out: The Bridge to Nowhere.
In: The Train to Nowhere.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 15, 2023 01:20 PM (+z+6a)

134 Knock me over with a feather: DDG image search for 'slutty minister cassocks' yields nothing controversial.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 15, 2023 01:20 PM (MvF+J)

135 Just recalling what crap defense and offense this a,**hole put up against Joe Biden in his Vice Presidential debate.

Wimp.

Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at June 15, 2023 01:20 PM (duy4p)

136 So Ryan is A-OK on middle-school CP, child grooming, and sexual mutilation. Go fuck yourself with a broadhead, Pauly.

Posted by: Fake ass piece of shit at June 15, 2023 01:21 PM (fE1zA)

137 >>Amirite?


Bitches, man. Bitches.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2023 01:21 PM (DXikM)

138 build a railroad across the Indian Ocean?
.......

better make it a monorail, half the price!

Posted by: wth at June 15, 2023 01:21 PM (v0R5T)

139 Hate to agree somewhat , because I totally respect Fen, but *in general * women pastors/Episcopal priests are lefties who promote endorsing that stuff via Christianity.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2023 01:19 PM (Rx/A9)

There's always exceptions. However, the exceptions should never be allowed to invalidate the rule. It's just like there can be exceptions to male pastors being conservative. The Bible is clear on the subject though.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 15, 2023 01:21 PM (GNPj+)

140 For me (ex Catholic), I can't abide to see in the Press something to the effect of 'Pastor Susan Smith and her husband Anna Jones ....'

That's three strikes.
Woman pastor/priest; married pastor/priest; lesbian pastor.

Posted by: Ciampino - Q: What do you call a basement full of Liberals? A: A whine cellar at June 15, 2023 01:21 PM (qfLjt)

141 Did some one say polerizing?

Posted by: Shemp at June 15, 2023 01:21 PM (JZBp8)

142 PJ Media Headline: "Biden Wants to Build an 8,000-Mile Ocean Train, and I Say Let's Do This!"


That's amazing.

I mean the largest train I've worked on wasn't even like half a mile long and I thought it was pretty impressive.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at June 15, 2023 01:21 PM (lc5cP)

143
I was told that gay marriage was the most essentialist thing ever. The marriage rate for LGBT is 10%. Versus 50% among the general population
.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 15, 2023 01:21 PM (MoZTd)

144 Paul
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You're a DICK!!!

Posted by: jeff spicoli's brother at June 15, 2023 01:21 PM (Vwz3I)

145 Which John Hughes film was that...Better off Dead?

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2023 01:21 PM (DXikM)

146 Irene Ryan >>>>> Paul Ryan
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:18 PM (K8wm4)
=================
This. She can shoot, for one thing, and she has zero patience for idiots in suits crying out, "surrender!"

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 15, 2023 01:22 PM (iF1KJ)

147 People who believe that the bible instructs that only men can be pastors are not shy or ashamed to explain their reasoning.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 15, 2023 01:14 PM (YQ4mh)

Yes but those same people do things like support the translation of the female name Junia to the male name Junius in Romans 16:7 because it's pretty inconvenient to them to have a female apostle listed by Paul if in fact women are never allowed to teach.

I don't what they do with the fact that Phobe carries that same letter on Paul's behalf and was the one to read it and explain it--teach it--to the Romans.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2023 01:22 PM (z/ifB)

148 monorail ... Monorail ... MONORAIL!

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 15, 2023 01:22 PM (aD39U)

149 >>I have a female pastor and don't even think about it. It baffles me why some are so opposed, but that's their choice.

I don't consider them "real" - it's just the way I was brought up (RC). No offense intended.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 15, 2023 01:22 PM (Mzdiz)

150 140 For me (ex Catholic), I can't abide to see in the Press something to the effect of 'Pastor Susan Smith and her husband Anna Jones ....'

That's three strikes.
Woman pastor/priest; married pastor/priest; lesbian pastor.
Posted by: Ciampino - Q: What do you call a basement full of Liberals? A: A whine cellar at June 15, 2023 01:21 PM (qfLjt)

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I love the rare exceptions of married Catholic priests.

They're generally converts from Anglicism.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:22 PM (LvTSG)

151 Paul Ryan is a K Street commando. His lifestyle depends on a steady stream of corporate money running through his office suite to his 'connections" browsing in the vast savannahs of the DC Beltway. He's going to risk that?

Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2023 01:22 PM (rj6Yv)

152
>i've said many times that many repubs act as if socialism is inevitable so there's no reason to try and stop it.
gnats local 678

That's what they said to Ronald Reagan about the inevitability of a Russian triumph.
Reagan didn't listen to them.

Posted by: Speller at June 15, 2023 01:22 PM (pSotA)

153
I'm still convinced Paul Ryan is ghey.
Possibly worse


What could be worse?

Posted by: Fronkensteen at June 15, 2023 01:22 PM (63Dwl)

154 We’ve already seen the same thing happen in corporations, and in government. Churches are not immune. Put women in positions of leadership, prepare to make a hard left turn
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I mean sheesh, look what happened since they got the vote. . .

Posted by: And that's when the fight started officer at June 15, 2023 01:22 PM (sh1GZ)

155 PJ Media Headline: "Biden Wants to Build an 8,000-Mile Ocean Train, and I Say Let's Do This!"

----------

What happens when Putin decides to exact revenge for blowing up the Nordstream pipelines?

Or Zelenskyy doesn't get another trillion dollars as promised (if you believe it was actually Ukraine that took out Nordstream)?

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 15, 2023 01:22 PM (+z+6a)

156 108 I'm still convinced Paul Ryan is ghey.
Possibly worse
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 15, 2023 01:16 PM (EGSGm)

Crossfitter?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:23 PM (zZu0s)

157 I was told that gay marriage was the most essentialist thing ever. The marriage rate for LGBT is 10%. Versus 50% among the general population

Now compare the sexuality fidelity rate of gay marriages vs straight ones.

I mean, ok, lesbians don't even have sex with their "wives" but gay men...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 15, 2023 01:23 PM (lc5cP)

158 When Paul Ryan says conservatives need to lay off the child molesters, it tells me more about Paul Ryan than about conservatives.

Posted by: Regular joe at June 15, 2023 01:23 PM (nnp+f)

159 very iheartening that, with primary season kicking off, Ryan chooses to make a TV appearance. People might otherwise forget how much of a total scumbag he is.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 15, 2023 01:23 PM (iF1KJ)

160 123

Looks like the piece of shit is aging. Maybe the quisling can put a pencil behind his ear and quote Rand again.

Guy is a fucking disaster. Must be bought. Kiddie diddler? Banging teens? Gay?

Yeah he gives a flying fuck about debt and taxes. That is hilarious.
Posted by: Rev Dr Happy Hands at June 15, 2023 01:19 PM (UCNv1)

Ryan only cares about the intersection of Ryan and rich oligarchs filthy lucre

Posted by: Shemp at June 15, 2023 01:23 PM (JZBp8)

161 Sock off

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 15, 2023 01:23 PM (JZBp8)

162 LOLGF Ryan.

You are worse than a godless commie - you are a backstabbing douchebag.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 15, 2023 01:24 PM (ufFY8)

163 32 The SBC voted (with an 80% majority) to amend their constitution to specifically disallow female pastors. Also, they affirmed (with an 88.5% majority) to uphold the expulsion of that grifter Warren and Saddleback Church from the SBC.


well that is good news!

also Paul Ryan is a little shit and a prog (in the, Grifter Royal sense)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 15, 2023 01:24 PM (w0NJk)

164 Ryan was always a libertarian, and of the worst sort. The Paul's were better on these issues.

On pastoresses, I see the SBC held the line. There's a sure test: if Pope Francis is solid on an issue, you really don't want go beyond him.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 15, 2023 01:24 PM (brAQZ)

165 130 Chicks

Girls

Women

Ladies.


Amirite?
Posted by: eleven at June 15, 2023 01:19 PM (iziT

You forgot: Dames.

usage: 'That Dame has a nice pair of stems.'

It sounds classy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:24 PM (zZu0s)

166 Trying snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory once again. He needs to go fetch his shine box.

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 15, 2023 01:24 PM (1EvpE)

167 Mittens "Romneycare" Romney and Paul "I'm not gay gay" Ryan.

That's the point I realized the R party had a real problem.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 15, 2023 01:24 PM (lc5cP)

168 Having female pastors is not woke, and the SBC is genuinely headed toward Taliban territory in their efforts to push women out of ministry in practically all forms.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2023 01:15 PM (z/ifB)

Yes, it is. Show me one denomination that allows female pastors that isn't on the Woke train to irrelevance? I'm not talking about individual churches. Denominations.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 15, 2023 01:24 PM (GNPj+)

169 122 that is my observation as well
Fen is a rare jewel

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 15, 2023 01:24 PM (EGSGm)

170 The Left is, and they own the institutions. They can censor us, cancel us, deprive us of jobs, sic the FBI after us, and even change laws in a manner designed to protect pedophiles.

Unless you are willing to submit to their demands, your only alternative is to fight back.

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Right, precisely. This is more or less what I said yesterday.

This is like saying, "I don't do existential war." Well, fair enough - but that will not in any way stop existential war from being done *to* you, and if you are unwilling to fight it then that you will lose for sure. You might lose anyway, but loss is not guaranteed so long as you choose to fight.

So either Ryan is under the gross misunderstanding that this is *not* an existential conflict, or he doesn't care and is willing to submit to the Left or is happy about what's going on. If it's the former, he's a fool. If it's the latter, he's a monster.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:24 PM (t0OGg)

171 I love the rare exceptions of married Catholic priests.

They're generally converts from Anglicism.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:22 PM (LvTSG)

And occasional Lutheran priests.

Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2023 01:24 PM (rj6Yv)

172 Paul Ryan?
Isn't he the guy who says that the Chinese are our friends ?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 15, 2023 01:24 PM (3PXWL)

173 Someone who has expressed support of DeSantis, which means that DeSantis, who has done real things to fight the culture war, must be a Ryan clone.

Forget it, Prometheus Guy, it's China Virus Town.

PS: When Ryan thinks the government helping China build bioweapons to terrorize us with is important enough to be worth commenting on he can say something, until then he can shut the fuck up. IMHO.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at June 15, 2023 01:24 PM (P/0mD)

174 Irene Cara > Irene Ryan

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2023 01:25 PM (DXikM)

175 89 53 I have a female pastor and don't even think about it. It baffles me why some are so opposed, but that's their choice.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 01:10 PM (eOEVl)

There's no reason to be baffled unless you choose to be. People who believe that the bible instructs that only men can be pastors are not shy or ashamed to explain their reasoning.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 15, 2023 01:14 PM (YQ4mh)

The Catholic Church has, as part of its doctrine of faith, that men and women are the same, but play different roles in the Church. I can get further into the theological underpinnings, but it shouldn't be necessary.

As conservatives, we already accept that men and women are equal and equally important, but those equality concepts do not require them to be the same and to do all the same things. In fact, we know they are both different and can sometimes do things the other can't (like birthing children).

And as conservative Catholics, just like we'd never ask why men can't be nuns, we'd never ask why women can't be priests. It's like asking why the sky can't be polka-dotted.

Posted by: Nova Local at June 15, 2023 01:25 PM (exHjb)

176 Yes but those same people do things like support the translation of the female name Junia to the male name Junius in Romans 16:7 because it's pretty inconvenient to them to have a female apostle listed by Paul if in fact women are never allowed to teach.


That's why ya gotta stick with the King James version.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 15, 2023 01:25 PM (aD39U)

177 "women are the primary vectors of woke bullshit BY FAR"

This seems to be true. They get really militant. Meinhof-level activists.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 15, 2023 01:25 PM (MvF+J)

178 I have a female pastor and don't even think about it. It baffles me why some are so opposed, but that's their choice.

I dunno, 1 Timothy 2:11–12 ?

yet another passage from St Paul to take the marks-a-lot to?

(I didn't make the rules, I'm just the messenger)

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 15, 2023 01:25 PM (YXHzG)

179 Ryan was always a libertarian, and of the worst sort. The Paul's were better on these issues.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 15, 2023 01:24 PM (brAQZ)

Libertarian Massie voted not to sanction Schiff.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 15, 2023 01:25 PM (GNPj+)

180 97 the PJM anti-Warren thing is telling.

Having female pastors is not woke, and the SBC is genuinely headed toward Taliban territory in their efforts to push women out of ministry in practically all forms.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2023 01:15 PM (z/ifB)

With all the serious anti-Christian issues going on, this is dumb fight for the SBC to get into at this time. There have always been a large number of evangelical and pentecostal female preachers; some of the most conservative preachers in this country are female preachers. This has nothing to do with any actual Christian beliefs, and everything to do with an overcontrolling heirarchy.

likely outcome - the SBC will continue to fade. losing memberships and churches, and the unaffiliated evangelical movement will continue to grow.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2023 01:25 PM (i9ffA)

181 anyone who likes the idea of female pastors hasn't dealt with a lot of nuns

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 15, 2023 01:25 PM (w0NJk)

182 Another good thing about Ryan showing his face in public is that the Uniparty needs reminding in every possible way how their idea of a "Republican leader" disgusts voters.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 15, 2023 01:25 PM (iF1KJ)

183 Paul Ryan Tells Conservatives To Stop Fighting the Culture War, Because It's "Polarizing"

And by "Polarizing" I mean you people are getting me uninvited to the premier cocktail parties. Now go directly to Target and buy a case of Bud Light and a Garth Brooks album already.

And I'm rich and powerful enough to protect *my* children from the trans/pedos. *Your* children will just have to suffer because you're not rich or powerful enough.

Posted by: Paul Ryan at June 15, 2023 01:26 PM (xttsV)

184 The culture war has been important because if we don't teach the young they'll just grow up to be a bunch of traitorous Faucis.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at June 15, 2023 01:26 PM (P/0mD)

185 Dennis Hastert: blackmailed/controlled opposition
John Boehner: likely blackmailed/controlled opposition
Paul Ryan: likely blackmailed/controlled opposition
Kevin McCarthy: likely blackmailed/controlled opposition

I think there is a pattern here.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 15, 2023 01:26 PM (KSNKu)

186 Behold the cvck:
++++
Man, if that ain't a book title, I don't know what is.

Behold the Cuck
Professional Conservatives in America, 2015-2030

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:26 PM (t0OGg)

187 I slept with 278,000 different women and I forgot to wear a condom every single time.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 15, 2023 01:26 PM (DZDR7)

188 171 I love the rare exceptions of married Catholic priests.

They're generally converts from Anglicism.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:22 PM (LvTSG)

And occasional Lutheran priests.
Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2023 01:24 PM (rj6Yv)

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Our Monseigneur took a sabbatical, and the first replacement was a married Monseigneur. I liked him, and he told of his conversion more than once.

He was temporary, and we got the priest who preceded the original Monseigneur. I like him too.

I guess I've been pretty lucky regarding the priests at the cathedral over the last decade.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:26 PM (LvTSG)

189 likely outcome - the SBC will continue to fade. losing memberships and churches, and the unaffiliated evangelical movement will continue to grow.


nah I think the opposite will happen

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 15, 2023 01:26 PM (w0NJk)

190 >>Paul Ryan Tells Conservatives To Stop Fighting the Culture War, Because It's "Polarizing"

I guess Paul Ryan doesn't like "The Drama."

Kind of sounds like a familiar refrain....

Where have I heard this???


Hmm..

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 15, 2023 01:26 PM (up/3i)

191 Thank goodness they're fighting for gas stoves!

Posted by: Unkaren at June 15, 2023 01:26 PM (LPkjK)

192 And occasional Lutheran priests.
Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2023 01:24 PM (rj6Yv)

Every time I read 'Lutheran' I say it in my head with a thick Minnesota accent: 'Loot-er-ehn'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:27 PM (zZu0s)

193 181 anyone who likes the idea of female pastors hasn't dealt with a lot of nuns
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 15, 2023 01:25 PM (w0NJk)

We've broken their fingers
We've branded their buns
Nothing is working...

Posted by: Torquemada at June 15, 2023 01:27 PM (fE1zA)

194 Libertarian Massie voted not to sanction Schiff.
Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 15, 2023 01:25 PM (GNPj+)
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He says he pledges a "yes" vote if the $16 million fine is taken out.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 15, 2023 01:27 PM (iF1KJ)

195 Never got over Ryan standing behind PDT in the oval office on innauguration day laughing while Trump was signing the documents making him president. The POS was in on the takedown.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 15, 2023 01:27 PM (JZBp8)

196
I think there is a pattern here.


And look at what they tried to do to Gaetz one of the few that beat the trap, but perhaps only because the trap was so dumb.

He had sex with a woman he wasn't married to!!! And the only reason she liked him is he's rich!!!

Posted by: 18-1 at June 15, 2023 01:27 PM (lc5cP)

197 He is being blackmailed. What do they have on him?

I was the one being blackmailed. He does it out of choice.

Posted by: Speaker Dennis Hastert (Homo-IL) at June 15, 2023 01:27 PM (xttsV)

198 133
PJ Media Headline: "Biden Wants to Build an 8,000-Mile Ocean Train, and I Say Let's Do This!"

Out: The Bridge to Nowhere.
In: The Train to Nowhere.

Posted by: Sha
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Well we could use an ocean-going ferry, really short tracks right? ..... wait .... that's called an ocean liner, not really a train ...

Posted by: Ciampino - What do you call a basement full of Liberals? A: A whine cellar at June 15, 2023 01:27 PM (qfLjt)

199 190 I guess Paul Ryan doesn't like "The Drama."

Kind of sounds like a familiar refrain....

Where have I heard this???


Hmm..
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 15, 2023 01:26 PM (up/3i)

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I'm so tired of all this stuff. I'm just going to vote for Biden.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:27 PM (LvTSG)

200 If you could go back far enough in time I guess you could throw me in with the fiscal conservative/social whatever crowd. It became easy to jump off that idea because the fiscal part never happens.

End of Story.

It's a back-door surrender to the left, like much of libertarianism.

But in theory, say sitting around a dorm room "eating sandwiches", it's an idea that could work.

In reality, it's a way to let the left win.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 15, 2023 01:27 PM (FCbAQ)

201 >>Man, if that ain't a book title, I don't know what is.


I think there is a Piers Anthony book titled 'On a Pale Cuck'.

But, nobody considers Fantasy to be literature.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2023 01:28 PM (DXikM)

202 You forgot: Dames.

usage: 'That Dame has a nice pair of stems.'

It sounds classy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:24 PM (zZu0s)

You forgot "dolls."

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 15, 2023 01:28 PM (Mzdiz)

203 Never got over Ryan standing behind PDT in the oval office on innauguration day laughing while Trump was signing the documents making him president. The POS was in on the takedown.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 15, 2023 01:27 PM (JZBp
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The inefficacy of the first two years of Trump's administration has many causes and many people involved, but Paul Ryan was a major factor in it. He's a bastard of the highest order.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:28 PM (t0OGg)

204 Someone tell Ryan to get a haircut. The Patrick Duffy look ain't doing it for him. Maybe a high and tight?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2023 01:28 PM (e4fEA)

205 I have a female pastor and don't even think about it. It baffles me why some are so opposed, but that's their choice.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 01:10 PM (eOEVl)

Because the Bible is quite clear that women were not created to wield authority, particularly in spiritual matters.

This push to inflame their pride by considering themselves the equals of men, and encourage sloth in men by suggesting no more is expected of us than of them, is and has always been Satanic.

Posted by: Methos at June 15, 2023 01:28 PM (kOpft)

206 In the latest gallop poll 69% of Americans thought that abortion should "always legal or almost always legal"
Is abortion a winning or losing issue for the GOP?

Posted by: Paul at June 15, 2023 01:28 PM (QS9/x)

207 I saw K Street Commando open for the Back Street Boys at Downtown Disney in '99.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 15, 2023 01:28 PM (+z+6a)

208 "the translation of the female name Junia to the male name Junius in Romans 16:7"

I suppose we're arguing latin names followed the same rules as bastardized English. Is that the basis of your argument?

"with the fact that Phobe carries that same letter on Paul's behalf and was the one to read it and explain it--teach it--to the Romans"

Carrying is reading is teaching. Because they didn't read in Rome. Someone has been taking their kool-aid denatured.

Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2023 01:28 PM (hOPog)

209 203 The inefficacy of the first two years of Trump's administration has many causes and many people involved, but Paul Ryan was a major factor in it. He's a bastard of the highest order.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:28 PM (t0OGg)

========

"That darn John McCain!"
-Mitch McConnell, shaking fist

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:29 PM (LvTSG)

210 All you guys who don’t like women preachers just wanna date Greta Thunberg.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:29 PM (K8wm4)

211 182 Another good thing about Ryan showing his face in public is that the Uniparty needs reminding in every possible way how their idea of a "Republican leader" disgusts voters.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 15, 2023 01:25 PM (iF1KJ)

The big Paul Ryan got all beat up by Biden in a vp debate. Lazy POS. Fight back you dink.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 15, 2023 01:29 PM (JZBp8)

212 We've broken their fingers
We've branded their buns
Nothing is working...
Posted by: Torquemada at June 15, 2023 01:27 PM (fE1zA)

Nice. *golfclap*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:29 PM (zZu0s)

213 likely outcome - the SBC will continue to fade. losing memberships and churches, and the unaffiliated evangelical movement will continue to grow.

I don't really have a dog in the fight.

But if most of the other options all follow the mainstream culture and allow female ministers and you don't...which either a majority or at least large plurality want...how is that not a smart play?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 15, 2023 01:29 PM (lc5cP)

214 Hate to agree somewhat , because I totally respect Fen, but *in general * women pastors/Episcopal priests are lefties who promote endorsing that stuff via Christianity.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2023 01:19 PM (Rx/A9)

...

This is entirely though the result of the "conservative" sorts of denominations almost completely blocking women from being pastors.

If anyone is interested in a conservative position arguing for the role of women as pastors, the Assemblies of God has a well-written position here:

https://ag.org/Beliefs/Position-Papers/
The-Role-of-Women-in-Ministry

You'll have to glue the link together, bitly seems to want me to sign up for an account now?

Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2023 01:29 PM (z/ifB)

215 Woman pastor/priest; married pastor/priest; lesbian pastor.

that seems to be almost a pre-req now for mainline Protestant churches

Posted by: brak at June 15, 2023 01:29 PM (3BMQI)

216 Posted by: Paul at June 15, 2023 01:28 PM (QS9/x)

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How many proposals are out there to make abortion always illegal?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:29 PM (LvTSG)

217 "women are the primary vectors of woke bullshit BY FAR"

This seems to be true. They get really militant. Meinhof-level activists.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 15, 2023 01:25 PM (MvF+J)

_____________

Yup. Women pushing the woke bullshit are interested in social acceptance. Men pushing it are interested in power.

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 15, 2023 01:29 PM (wNDOJ)

218
>Female pastors equals more lenient churches and next they'll want lesbian pastors or trans pastors. Not happening.
(ExFoQ)

In Toronto Canada, the United Church of Canada(largest denomination in the country) has an atheist pastor.

Posted by: Speller at June 15, 2023 01:29 PM (pSotA)

219 Was Juneteenth canceled or something?

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2023 01:29 PM (DXikM)

220 Feels supersede St. Paul's admonitions in First Timothy. What did that dead whitish male know anyway? Pfffft.

Posted by: Feels uber alles! at June 15, 2023 01:29 PM (fE1zA)

221 Someone tell Ryan to get a haircut. The Patrick Duffy look ain't doing it for him. Maybe a high and tight?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2023 01:28 PM (e4fEA)

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He's rocking that Hannity look!

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (+z+6a)

222 This bikini blonde thinks that culture war must be fought, and that Ryan and the rest of his panty-waisted, limp-wristed, tucked-under, on-the-take cabal of mewling bastards should get the hell out of the way:
https://is.gd/KbRBRj

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (t0OGg)

223 It's who we are to say it's not who we are when who we are is not who we are to express who we are for who we are

Posted by: NPC Ryan-Chatbot 2.13 at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (VTu1l)

224 "women are the primary vectors of woke bullshit BY FAR"

If there are currently not that many woman pastors-or any- in the SBC, then it would seem to be that woke b**** is being driven by either male pastors or male pastors and both male pastors and female congregants. So, what are you going to do- to remove all those people? Deny them church membership too?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (Keyt1)

225 Clinton appointed judge, who issued an injunction against Trump's military trans ban and then sat of the case for three years until Biden could repeal it, rules that banning graffiti on private and public property is unconstitutional:

Gary Horcher
@GaryKIRO7
The Seattle City Attorney will NOT be prosecuting anyone arrested for graffiti—at least for now—after US District Judge Marsha Pechman issued an injunction.
The judge says Seattle’s property destruction ordinance is vague, targets speech and “poses a real threat of censorship.”
2:19 PM · Jun 14, 2023

https://tinyurl.com/mr38phu4
The preliminary injunction from Judge Pechman says that the city’s existing property damage laws can violate a person’s First and Fourteenth Amendment rights, and that as they’re phrased right now, are “overly vague and overboard.”

It is funny that judges always rule to let laws take effect immediately if they make felons out of normal Americans (i.e. "assault weapons" or pistol braces) but always block anti-trans, anti-abortion, or laws that punish real criminals immediately.

Just a coincidence I imagine.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (MFZ8i)

226 You forgot "dolls."
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 15, 2023 01:28 PM (Mzdiz)

That's a good one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (zZu0s)

227 This push to inflame their pride by considering themselves the equals of men, and encourage sloth in men by suggesting no more is expected of us than of them, is and has always been Satanic.
Posted by: Methos at June 15, 2023 01:28 PM (kOpft)

Careful - women are, and have always been, the equal of men. This has always been the case.

Women and men are just not the same.

Equal and different is not a hard concept to grasp...okay, maybe it is in 2023 America with the trans movement.

Posted by: Nova Local at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (exHjb)

228 222 This bikini blonde thinks that culture war must be fought, and that Ryan and the rest of his panty-waisted, limp-wristed, tucked-under, on-the-take cabal of mewling bastards should get the hell out of the way:
https://is.gd/KbRBRj
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (t0OGg)

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America!

Though, to be honest, she feels like she belongs in a Bud Light ad from 1993.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (LvTSG)

229 205 Oh brother.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:31 PM (K8wm4)

230 Was Juneteenth canceled or something?

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2023 01:29 PM (DXikM)

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During Transjester Genocide Vengeance Pride Month?

REALLY???

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 15, 2023 01:31 PM (+z+6a)

231 This bikini blonde thinks that culture war must be fought

*************

How come I never find these girls on Tinder?

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 15, 2023 01:31 PM (VTu1l)

232 Paul Ryan: "Bend over and Take it like a Man!"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 15, 2023 01:31 PM (ynpvh)

233 Paul Ryan has culture war fatigue.

Which is the whole point of it.

Posted by: eleven at June 15, 2023 01:31 PM (iziT8)

234 "Stop Fighting the Culture War"

Allow me to offer this interpretation for "R": Like the President, one or more immediate family members hangout on T**T**, and other social media, and act the fool. I'm related by marriage to Supreme Court Justice Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson. I'm not playing conservative jackass for the future for looks exceptionally bright for progressive me & mine.

Posted by: L - very tired at June 15, 2023 01:31 PM (GshMh)

235 I love the rare exceptions of married Catholic priests.

They're generally converts from Anglicism.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:22 PM (LvTSG)

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I had one of those. It definitely felt weird having a priest talk about his wife and kids during the homily.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 15, 2023 01:31 PM (DRSnL)

236 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (t0OGg

in keeping with this thread, you should gotten a picture of her in a "slutty cassock" whatever that is.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office at June 15, 2023 01:31 PM (Keyt1)

237 Careful - women are, and have always been, the equal of men. This has always been the case.

Women and men are just not the same.


Interestingly it wasn't until 3rd generation feminism they went with "Men and women are exactly the same but women are better".

Even 2nd generation feminism claimed men and women were fundamentally different in various ways.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 15, 2023 01:31 PM (lc5cP)

238 This has nothing to do with any actual Christian beliefs, and everything to do with an overcontrolling heirarchy.

likely outcome - the SBC will continue to fade. losing memberships and churches, and the unaffiliated evangelical movement will continue to grow.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2023 01:25 PM (i9ffA)

??? It has everything to do with Christian beliefs. And the people pushing it are the Wokites in the SBC. But hey, go ahead and surrender.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 15, 2023 01:32 PM (GNPj+)

239 Give up the culture war? Didn't we support Ryan to fight the fiscal war? And how did that go for us?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 15, 2023 01:32 PM (N39Ws)

240 "So, what are you going to do- to remove all those people? Deny them church membership too?"

If you stopped hiring Bible college graduates and went back to the Bible as the spiritual authority, most of this stuff would disappear in ten years.

Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2023 01:32 PM (hOPog)

241 Ecce Cucko!

Posted by: It's Latin. Classy and classical. at June 15, 2023 01:32 PM (fE1zA)

242 231 This bikini blonde thinks that culture war must be fought

*************

How come I never find these girls on Tinder?
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 15, 2023 01:31 PM (VTu1l)

=======

Alexandra Daddario was on Tinder years back.

https://is.gd/508Cyx

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:32 PM (LvTSG)

243 would seem to be that woke b**** is being driven by either male pastors or male pastors and both male pastors and female congregants

*********

We have a saying at work:

Fags make the hags

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 15, 2023 01:32 PM (VTu1l)

244 Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (MFZ8i)

If any law harms or adversely effects primarily straight white males, it is holy writ in the Banana Empire.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 15, 2023 01:32 PM (KSNKu)

245 Herman should've stomped Eddie with his size 30 wide stomping boots. Or Grampa with a tire iron. 240, 241 whatever it takes.

Posted by: micky at June 15, 2023 01:32 PM (3byMq)

246 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 15, 2023 01:32 PM (Zz0t1)

247 in keeping with this thread, you should gotten a picture of her in a "slutty cassock" whatever that is.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office at June 15, 2023 01:31 PM (Keyt1)
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Pictures like that exist, but they're both basically straight-up porno and also extremely blasphemous.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:32 PM (t0OGg)

248 167 Mittens "Romneycare" Romney and Paul "I'm not gay gay" Ryan.

That's the point I realized the R party had a real problem.
----------------
You missed McCain?

Posted by: Pudinhead at June 15, 2023 01:32 PM (bA3Ln)

249 246 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 15, 2023 01:32 PM (Zz0t1)

NOT FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 15, 2023 01:33 PM (ynpvh)

250 If you look up Bag of Dicks Eater in the dictionary, there's a picture of Paul Ryan.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 15, 2023 01:33 PM (Zz0t1)

251 Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 01:10 PM (eOEVl)

Is your pastor woke? I assume she's not or you would find another church?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office at June 15, 2023 01:33 PM (Keyt1)

252 Human beings are hot garbage whatever job they have.
It's all a big argument over nothing.

We gonna worry about only having our little fifteen seconds we carve out before bed to give a monologue to Our Father (except on days we don't) instead of actually having a prayer life? Or we gonna worry about what costume and job title someone gets to have in a church-like organization we don't even belong to?

Beams and motes. None of it matters.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 15, 2023 01:33 PM (9UlRk)

253 Knock me over with a feather: DDG image search for 'slutty minister cassocks' yields nothing controversial.

Now try 'slutty nun.'

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 15, 2023 01:33 PM (AW0uW)

254 And as conservative Catholics, just like we'd never ask why men can't be nuns, we'd never ask why women can't be priests. It's like asking why the sky can't be polka-dotted.

RC often prefers Holy Tradition than God's Word when the two collide. For example, Matthew 23:9 says "Don't call anyone on earth Father for you have one Father and He is in heaven" (referring to a spiritual context Father) yet the priests are called "Father".

Paul, in letters to Timothy also describes what makes an ideal Elder/Bishop or Deacon, and it is a man with one wife who has his household (referring to children) in order. The RC threw that away in favor of Paul stating a fact (1 Cor 7) that unmarried men are not weighed down with "the things of this world" as a caution not a dictate or command to be single in the ministry.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 15, 2023 01:33 PM (YXHzG)

255 Alexandra Daddario was on Tinder years back. https://is.gd/508Cyx

*********

I WANT TO LIVE AGAIN

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 15, 2023 01:33 PM (VTu1l)

256 Remember, both men and women are created in the image of God.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:33 PM (K8wm4)

257 > You'll have to glue the link together, bitly seems to want me to sign up for an account now?

I switched to tinyurl because of that.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 15, 2023 01:34 PM (eyxn4)

258
PAUL RYAN

The Genius who got a beating in a debate from Joe Biden like he was Biden's syphilitic pecker and Joe was sniffing 10 year old Haley Mills hair.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 15, 2023 01:34 PM (fb7jX)

259 218
>Female pastors equals more lenient churches and next they'll want lesbian pastors or trans pastors. Not happening.
(ExFoQ)

In Toronto Canada, the United Church of Canada(largest denomination in the country) has an atheist pastor.
Posted by: Speller at June 15, 2023 01:2

ITS FUNNY CAUSE THE CONGREGANTS ALL SHOW UP RELIGIOUSLY ON SUNDAYS TO HEAR THE PASTOR HARRANGE THEM THAT THERE IS NO GOD.

Posted by: Ben Rothliesbergergler at June 15, 2023 01:34 PM (JZBp8)

260 I WANT TO LIVE AGAIN
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 15, 2023 01:33 PM (VTu1l)

Isn't Tinder a two way street?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:34 PM (zZu0s)

261 256 Remember, both men and women are created in the image of God.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:33 PM (K8wm4)

Saw a cartoon that made me laugh. Eve was pissed and told Adam, "Stop calling me a McRib!"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 15, 2023 01:34 PM (ynpvh)

262 Women and men are just not the same.

Equal and different is not a hard concept to grasp...okay, maybe it is in 2023 America with the trans movement.

Posted by: Nova Local at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (exHjb)

I got into a discussion with an atheist over this and Biblical teaching. In the end, he admitted the reasoning was sound. Of course, it was 15-20 years ago and I could use the perfectly sensible 'only women can have babies" to highlight men and women are different.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 15, 2023 01:34 PM (GNPj+)

263 "By choice."
-The GOPe, refusing any effort to fight voter fraud anywhere
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:07 PM (LvTSG)
***

NOW is when someone should be putting the little cameras into the polling places. Invent the work orders for whatever, just to get access. Get dozens of cameras in. Even the secondary spots. Learn who the poll workers are...identify their cars. Get those drones ready. Good intel collection begins with good IPB.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2023 01:34 PM (e4fEA)

264 Do you think Paul Ryan actually volunteered his statement? I don't. I think "someone" suggested he say something for the record, for "the team", with the idea that showing some "team spirit" might be a good idea.

Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2023 01:34 PM (rj6Yv)

265 Wrath Month is gonna be LIT!!!

Posted by: That guy who thinks Wrath Month is gonna be LIT at June 15, 2023 01:34 PM (fxrF8)

266 Paul Ryan is a great Democrat.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 15, 2023 01:34 PM (6VKyY)

267 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (t0OGg)


I, for one, laud her patriotism.

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 15, 2023 01:34 PM (wNDOJ)

268 Isn't Tinder a two way street?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:34 PM (zZu0s)
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Yeah. I don't imagine there'd be many takers for a "you *must* go with the first person to choose you" dating app.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:34 PM (t0OGg)

269 256 Remember, both men and women are created in the image of God.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:33 PM (K8wm4)

God is a futanari?

Posted by: Never considered that before. at June 15, 2023 01:35 PM (fE1zA)

270 218 ...has an atheist pastor.
Posted by: Speller at June 15, 2023 01:2

Somehow that seems like an oxymoron.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 15, 2023 01:35 PM (ynpvh)

271 "the translation of the female name Junia to the male name Junius in Romans 16:7"

I suppose we're arguing latin names followed the same rules as bastardized English. Is that the basis of your argument?
Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2023 01:28 PM (hOPog)

no, the Junia/Junias thing is that Paul lists Junia the Apostle in Romans 16:8 (outstanding among the apostles). It's very clearly a female name in the original text but it's such a problem for those that argue about what the various offices are and that in particular there's no way that a woman could have been an apostle that they change it to a man's name.

It would be one thing if you held a certain view and were willing to deal with the points in scripture that are problematic to that view. It's something else entirely when you mislead all of English speaking Christianity by willfully mis-translating her name just to bury the reference and make it go away. IIRC the KJV started this I'm not certain.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2023 01:35 PM (z/ifB)

272 264 Do you think Paul Ryan actually volunteered his statement? I don't. I think "someone" suggested he say something for the record, for "the team", with the idea that showing some "team spirit" might be a good idea.
Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2023 01:34 PM (rj6Yv)

Practically: Does it matter?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:35 PM (zZu0s)

273 Southern Baptists are meeting in New Orleans for their annual convention this week. Megachurch Pastor Rick Warren, author of the bestselling book The Purpose-Driven Life, is waging war with the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), hoping to push the denomination to the left on the issue of female pastors.


"Maybe, if we bring in broads, the priests will stop diddling little boys."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 15, 2023 01:35 PM (Zz0t1)

274 You missed McCain?

I voted for McCain unhappily. And watching him throw that election away I said to myself never again.

Then seeing the party install Mittens I tried to tell people, even here, no more and vote 3rd party.

And...everything I feared came true. Most conservatives voted for him, and the GOPe took to heart that conservatives will vote for anyone if they get them to be the R nominee...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 15, 2023 01:35 PM (lc5cP)

275 Isn't Tinder a two way street?

********

Only for the top 1% of men

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 15, 2023 01:36 PM (VTu1l)

276 This bikini blonde thinks that culture war must be fought, and that Ryan and the rest of his panty-waisted, limp-wristed, tucked-under, on-the-take cabal of mewling bastards should get the hell out of the way:
https://is.gd/KbRBRj
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (t0OGg)
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Her mother didn't but her that bathing suit, I'll bet. Wow.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 15, 2023 01:36 PM (iF1KJ)

277 cabal of mewling bastards should get the hell out of the way:
https://is.gd/KbRBRj
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (t0OGg)

Wow. Built for speed.

She don't eat no donuts.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 15, 2023 01:36 PM (ufFY8)

278 Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (Keyt1)

I'd recommend reading my comment a little more closely. I said women, not women pastors, were responsible for the woke bullshit in churches.

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 15, 2023 01:36 PM (wNDOJ)

279 Do you think Paul Ryan actually volunteered his statement? I don't. I think "someone" suggested he say something for the record, for "the team", with the idea that showing some "team spirit" might be a good idea.
Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2023 01:34 PM (rj6Yv)



The drought has caused issues in my field of f*cks. Paul Ryan is a douche libtard f*ckwad that requires me to disregard EVERYTHING he says.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 15, 2023 01:36 PM (Zz0t1)

280 276 This bikini blonde thinks that culture war must be fought, and that Ryan and the rest of his panty-waisted, limp-wristed, tucked-under, on-the-take cabal of mewling bastards should get the hell out of the way:
https://is.gd/KbRBRj
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (t0OGg)
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Her mother didn't but her that bathing suit, I'll bet. Wow.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 15, 2023 01:36 PM (iF1KJ)

You're supposed to salute for the flag...NOT that way!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 15, 2023 01:37 PM (ynpvh)

281 just when the culture wars are turning against the dims

Posted by: REDACTED at June 15, 2023 01:37 PM (us2H3)

282 @199

>>I'm so tired of all this stuff. I'm just going to vote for Biden.

I would say Paul Ryan's aversion for "culture war" issues and the "drama" the generates is of a piece with the NT'rs who are just so damn sick and tired of Trumps "Drama."

The just want tranquility and comity and the anal sex parties that that entails.

They are the same is what I'm saying.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 15, 2023 01:37 PM (up/3i)

283 And...everything I feared came true. Most conservatives voted for him, and the GOPe took to heart that conservatives will vote for anyone if they get them to be the R nominee...

***************

I think we're past that now, if anyone other than Trump or DeSantis wins the nom I'm write in voting for Mr SMOD Secession the Third.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 15, 2023 01:37 PM (VTu1l)

284 Paul, in letters to Timothy also describes what makes an ideal Elder/Bishop or Deacon, and it is a man with one wife who has his household (referring to children) in order. The RC threw that away in favor of Paul stating a fact (1 Cor 7) that unmarried men are not weighed down with "the things of this world" as a caution not a dictate or command to be single in the ministry.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 15, 2023 01:33 PM (YXHzG

I wonder what Paul's wife had to say about that.

Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2023 01:38 PM (rj6Yv)

285 Paul, you lost the culture war. Go get an iced tea for your wife's bull.

Posted by: Roy at June 15, 2023 01:38 PM (ziC6j)

286
Who?

Oh.... him and Eric Fucking Cantor.....

Posted by: fixerupper at June 15, 2023 01:38 PM (hrOf9)

287 "with the fact that Phobe carries that same letter on Paul's behalf and was the one to read it and explain it--teach it--to the Romans"

Carrying is reading is teaching. Because they didn't read in Rome. Someone has been taking their kool-aid denatured.
Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2023 01:28 PM (hOPog)

You have zero clue about how Paul's letters were delivered and taught. It's not your fault, probably; no one really goes into this, and if certain denominations did explain how it was done they'd have a major hangup with Paul deputizing a woman to be the one who taught his magnum opus on his behalf.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2023 01:38 PM (z/ifB)

288 It's as simple as this, if you're not down to fight the culture war I automatically assume this to mean you're a groomer who either has fucked a child or desperately wants to.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 15, 2023 01:38 PM (KbCG3)

289 Hey Paul !

You know what else is polarizing? Attacking your own side.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 15, 2023 01:38 PM (eoQWY)

290 It's not a culture war. We're fighting against dictatorship and kid diddling assholes from the depths of hell.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 15, 2023 01:39 PM (6VKyY)

291 Paul Ryan is quite happy to fight the "culture war." It's just that he's playing for the other team. He means that opposing the left is "polarizing."

I grew up in single parent household in the 1970s/80s (Gen X). Everyone I knew had only one parent. We experienced the collateral damage of adults doing crazy stuff in those days, so we developed tough skins. As teenagers, we rebelled. We listed to punk rock and thrash metal and, in the late 80s, gangster rap. We thought Tipper Gore was a joke.

So my generation does not easily get the vapors. But we are fed up with Cultural Marxism and the pseudo-elite's disgusting social experiments.

Paul, it takes a lot for us Gen X'rs to turn into "church ladies," but somehow you and your pals have managed that trick. Trust me, we are the last people on earth to start a culture war. You bastards started it and you know it.

Posted by: Bamanarama at June 15, 2023 01:39 PM (uH1aC)

292 Fuck Rick Warren, the legalist argument is particularly chickenshit on his part.

Posted by: sven at June 15, 2023 01:39 PM (X0I7i)

293 282 I would say Paul Ryan's aversion for "culture war" issues and the "drama" the generates is of a piece with the NT'rs who are just so damn sick and tired of Trumps "Drama."

The just want tranquility and comity and the anal sex parties that that entails.

They are the same is what I'm saying.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 15, 2023 01:37 PM (up/3i)

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It's what I was supporting with sarcasm! We're on the same wavelength.

I don't doubt some people's exhaustion with the Trump show (ace's seems quite genuine), but I think the idea is largely about building a narrative rather than actually trying to figure out Republican voters and their desires.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:39 PM (LvTSG)

294 Standing athwart the culture wars, sighing, "Not the hill we want to die on" is how we got to children being sexually mutilated to gratify the gender cult.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 15, 2023 01:39 PM (9yUzE)

295 In the Bible it says, "God made man in His own image." He made women after, from a rib, a cheaper cut.

Posted by: Archie Bunker at June 15, 2023 01:39 PM (aD39U)

296 Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 15, 2023 01:35 PM (Zz0t1)

It will be a very long time-if ever before the RCC gets female clergy- and it wouldn't stop the predation by some male clergy which has been going on a long time and which the hierarchy has in many cases turned a blind eye too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office at June 15, 2023 01:39 PM (Keyt1)

297 The RC threw that away in favor of Paul stating a fact (1 Cor 7) that unmarried men are not weighed down with "the things of this world" as a caution not a dictate or command to be single in the ministry.
Posted by: Reuben Hick


That or they 'threw it away' to take the inheritances of 2nd-born sons of nobles and fund the Church. Either or.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 15, 2023 01:40 PM (jzzG8)

298 I bet Ryan is a lobbyist for the FBI budget.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 15, 2023 01:40 PM (iF1KJ)

299 just when the culture wars are turning against the dims
Posted by: REDACTED at June 15, 2023 01:37 PM (us2H3)
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Not yet, it isn't.

What *is* happening, though, is that the culture war is finally being fought in the first place. It's been a unidirectional culture assault up to this point (with the notable exception of video games). There has been no push-back, let alone a counteroffensive.

We're finally seeing some push-back - and fairly tame at that - and it's causing them to blow a gasket. They're used to running roughshod with zero opposition, and they know how quickly opposition can build if they let the camel's nose under the tent.

Well, the camel is nosing at the tent now. Finally.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:40 PM (t0OGg)

300 all mainstream protestant denominations have been losing membership steadily. The SBC is no exception.

reported SBC membership:
1992: 15,238,283
2006: 16,306,246 (peak membership)
2022: 13,223,122

reported SBC attendance
1992: 4,579,630
2002: 3,804,490

for comparison:
US population 1992: 256.5 mill
US population 2022: 332.4 million

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2023 01:40 PM (i9ffA)

301 This bikini blonde thinks that culture war must be fought, and that Ryan and the rest of his panty-waisted, limp-wristed, tucked-under, on-the-take cabal of mewling bastards should get the hell out of the way:
https://is.gd/KbRBRj


Too skinny. I don't like being able to see a woman's ribcage.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 15, 2023 01:40 PM (AW0uW)

302 289 Hey Paul !

You know what else is polarizing? Attacking your own side
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Paul works for the Chamber of Commerce. He doesn't work for you and me. He's a Cuck.

Posted by: Pudinhead at June 15, 2023 01:40 PM (bA3Ln)

303 291 Posted by: Bamanarama at June 15, 2023 01:39 PM (uH1aC)

A lot of us looked at the shit being done and said, "fuck this I will try to be like my grandparents."

Gen X saw the damage sport fucking could do to a household and we handled it differently than we saw, either keeping the sidepieces on the down low or waiting to get hitched a bit longer.

Posted by: sven at June 15, 2023 01:41 PM (X0I7i)

304 It’s a little confusing having a discussion of Paul Ryan and Paul the Apostle going on simultaneously.

Let’s just hope Paul the troll doesn’t show up.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:41 PM (K8wm4)

305 Too skinny. I don't like being able to see a woman's ribcage.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 15, 2023 01:40 PM (AW0uW)

Elbows too pointy?

Buy her a sandwich.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:41 PM (zZu0s)

306 304 It’s a little confusing having a discussion of Paul Ryan and Paul the Apostle going on simultaneously.

Let’s just hope Paul the troll doesn’t show up.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:41 PM (K8wm4)

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I keep thinking people are responding to Paul the troll without quoting him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:41 PM (LvTSG)

307 The drought has caused issues in my field of f*cks. Paul Ryan is a douche libtard f*ckwad that requires me to disregard EVERYTHING he says.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 15, 2023 01:36 PM (Zz0t1)

I'm saying that Paul Ryan is the type that's perfectly happy to wallow in the mudhole without making a fuss or becoming a target. When the Ryan types pipe up, it's usually because of a dangling carrot or a couple of wise guys standing in the wings.

Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2023 01:41 PM (rj6Yv)

308 You know what else is polarizing? Attacking your own side.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 15, 2023 01:38 PM (eoQWY)
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Which is why he is attacking Republicans, and not Biden or groomers.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 15, 2023 01:41 PM (iF1KJ)

309 Too skinny. I don't like being able to see a woman's ribcage.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 15, 2023 01:40 PM (AW0uW)

Elbows too pointy?

Buy her a sandwich.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:41 PM (zZu0s)

She was hanging out with Job from the Art Thread.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 15, 2023 01:42 PM (ufFY8)

310 Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:41 PM (K8wm4)

LOL. That's true.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office at June 15, 2023 01:42 PM (Keyt1)

311 " with Paul deputizing a woman to be the one who taught his magnum opus on his behalf."

Facts assumed, not in evidence.

Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2023 01:42 PM (hOPog)

312 Careful - women are, and have always been, the equal of men. This has always been the case.

Women and men are just not the same.

Equal and different is not a hard concept to grasp...okay, maybe it is in 2023 America with the trans movement.
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"Equal" without qualifiers is the issue, because on its own, it's meaningless fluff. We are certainly not equal in physical capacity, as women's sports are discovering the hard way. There's no reason to believe that we are equal in other capacities-just look at all the restrictions that have to be placed on men to accomodate women in the workplace and society generally.

The only sense that we are equal in the Church is that are sins merit the same punishment, and the same price was paid for them-but that's not the equal that feminists are pushing.

We have had a hundred years of progressivism in all its forms, including feminism, corrupting this country. We can surely judge the idea on the fruit it has born, like 65+ million blood sacrifices to the god of this world, the suppression of wages so that single earner couples with children are a rarity with the damage that does to the children, and so forth.

Posted by: Methos at June 15, 2023 01:42 PM (kOpft)

313 If there are currently not that many woman pastors-or any- in the SBC, then it would seem to be that woke b**** is being driven by either male pastors or male pastors and both male pastors and female congregants. So, what are you going to do- to remove all those people? Deny them church membership too?

I understand. Church discipline while it would be pleasing to God isn't pleasing to the number counters and those wondering how to make the church payroll and mortgage.

Also would require a conscience, morality, ethics and character - almost none of that is found within the SBC hierarchy. Like almost everything else falls into Eric Hoffer's observation: "Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket."

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 15, 2023 01:42 PM (YXHzG)

314 I keep thinking people are responding to Paul the troll without quoting him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:41 PM (LvTSG)

There are three Pauls being discussed on this thread. Actually four with the reference to Babe the Blue Ox.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:42 PM (zZu0s)

315 I bought a new tool and the owner's manual has something virtually unprecedented in it. Right at the beginning, at the top of the warnings section:
The warnings, cautions and instructions in this manual cannot cover all possible conditions and situations that could occur. The operator must exercise common sense and caution while using this tool. The operator must remain aware of the environment and ensure that tool usage is safe and responsible.

I didn't sign up for no common sense and responsibility! I feel gypped!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:42 PM (t0OGg)

316 Paul the Troll is Paul Pelosi, rite?

Posted by: Pudinhead at June 15, 2023 01:42 PM (bA3Ln)

317 no, the Junia/Junias thing is that Paul lists Junia the Apostle in Romans 16:8 (outstanding among the apostles). It's very clearly a female name in the original text but it's such a problem for those that argue about what the various offices are and that in particular there's no way that a woman could have been an apostle that they change it to a man's name.

It would be one thing if you held a certain view and were willing to deal with the points in scripture that are problematic to that view. It's something else entirely when you mislead all of English speaking Christianity by willfully mis-translating her name just to bury the reference and make it go away. IIRC the KJV started this I'm not certain.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2023 01:35 PM (z/ifB)

Romans 16:7 Greet Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen and fellow prisoners. They are well known to the apostles, and they were in Christ before me. ESV

They are possibly a married couple. Nothing there about Junia preaching. You can't grab one verse and claim it invalidate clear teaching.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 15, 2023 01:42 PM (GNPj+)

318 Minds wander.

Rush Limbaugh with his ta-da-... charge thing and rustling the 'highly classified' documents...

Smerdley runs the femminazi tape "we're here, we're queer, Reeee!"

Posted by: micky at June 15, 2023 01:43 PM (3byMq)

319 She was hanging out with Job from the Art Thread.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 15, 2023 01:42 PM (ufFY

At least the boils are not catching.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:43 PM (zZu0s)

320 299 just when the culture wars are turning against the dims
Posted by: REDACTED at June 15, 2023 01:37 PM (us2H3)
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Not yet, it isn't.Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:40 PM (t0OGg)

dont make me come back there !!

Posted by: REDACTED at June 15, 2023 01:43 PM (us2H3)

321 "women are the primary vectors of woke bullshit BY FAR"

This seems to be true. They get really militant. Meinhof-level activists.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 15, 2023 01:25 PM (MvF+J)

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Dennis Prager column recently "Women Are Disproportionately Hurting Our Country."

https://is.gd/s4RW7A

Primarily AWFLs and the otherwise college-educated -indoctrinated. All masculinity is toxic, yo!

[As I've been saying since the Clintons first darkened the White House: the emasculation and infantilization of America continues unabated and apace.]

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 15, 2023 01:43 PM (+z+6a)

322 It’s a little confusing having a discussion of Paul Ryan and Paul the Apostle going on simultaneously.

Let’s just hope Paul the troll doesn’t show up.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:41 PM (K8wm4)


We can only hope douchebag Paul Ryan gets on a horse and rides to Damascus. Maybe he will change his name to Saul

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 15, 2023 01:43 PM (ufFY8)

323 You forgot: Dames.

usage: 'That Dame has a nice pair of stems.'

It sounds classy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:24 PM (zZu0s)

You forgot "dolls."
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 15, 2023 01:28 PM (Mzdiz)

As in "That doll has a nice pair of gams!"

It sounds classy.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 15, 2023 01:44 PM (N1DT3)

324 I am baffled by "clear biblical teaching" that there should be no female pastors when there are literal female pastors noted in Acts & the epistles.

I get tired of "clear church tradition" morphing into Biblical teaching somehow.

Posted by: parsimony at June 15, 2023 01:44 PM (q1I67)

325 Too skinny. I don't like being able to see a woman's ribcage.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 15, 2023 01:40 PM (AW0uW)

Elbows too pointy?

Buy her a sandwich.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:41 PM (zZu0s)

It's like sometimes I don't even know you guys

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 15, 2023 01:44 PM (NtVYv)

326 There are many small, dying churches out there, most with aging parishoners. Wpuld it be better for them to have a woman pastor, or to abandon those folks? I'm pretty sure the small church I attended is shuttered because they couldn't find a male pastor to replace the one that died.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 15, 2023 01:44 PM (ouTlx)

327 Too skinny. I don't like being able to see a woman's ribcage.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 15, 2023 01:40 PM (AW0uW)

Elbows too pointy?

Buy her a sandwich.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:41 PM (zZu0s)

_______

I'll do my empathetic duty to console her in light of such a heinous body shaming!

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 15, 2023 01:44 PM (wNDOJ)

328 I haven't forgotten that while Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan would not fund the border wall at the same time he was having a wall built around his home in Janesville, Wis.

go to hell Paul Ryan

Posted by: DanMan at June 15, 2023 01:44 PM (DB6tu)

329 Carry on, folks. I'm taking my non woke self and going to lunch.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke-the Mikey candidate for public office at June 15, 2023 01:45 PM (Keyt1)

330 Paul the Troll is Paul Pelosi, rite?

Posted by: Pudinhead at June 15, 2023 01:42 PM (bA3Ln)

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Must be. Always seems hammered ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 15, 2023 01:45 PM (+z+6a)

331 Paul Ryan: “I’m not a culture war guy. I think it’s really polarizing.”

Too much drama, you know? I prefer to acquiesce to the position that the media says is ok.

Posted by: Paul Ryan at June 15, 2023 01:45 PM (bt2PN)

332 268 Isn't Tinder a two way street?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:34 PM (zZu0s)
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Yeah. I don't imagine there'd be many takers for a "you *must* go with the first person to choose you" dating app.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:34 PM (t0OGg)

--TrigglyPuff enters the chat.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 15, 2023 01:45 PM (N39Ws)

333 Remember, both men and women are created in the image of God.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:33 PM (K8wm4)

And the next chapter clarifies that Eve was created to be Adam's assistant.

Posted by: Methos at June 15, 2023 01:46 PM (kOpft)

334 What is so hard about the LGBT "community" saying "You know what? You're too little to worry about this shit. You shouldn't be screwing around with anyone at your age. Get your head on your shoulders first, and your feet on the ground. Then worry about Who You Are and Who You Want To Be With. And we'll be there to support you either way, no matter what anybody else does."

What's so big a deal about that? That would be nice. I could almost get behind that. But is that in the offing, anywhere, ever? Is that ever ThE MeSSaGe that gets promulgated by official government organs (squick intended) and the Educational-Industrial Complex?

No.

So to hell with them.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 15, 2023 01:46 PM (9UlRk)

335 This bikini blonde thinks that culture war must be fought, and that Ryan and the rest of his panty-waisted, limp-wristed, tucked-under, on-the-take cabal of mewling bastards should get the hell out of the way:
https://is.gd/KbRBRj
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (t0OGg)

Fit and pretty, my type.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:46 PM (xcxpd)

336 nd as conservative Catholics, just like we'd never ask why men can't be nuns, we'd never ask why women can't be priests. It's like asking why the sky can't be polka-dotted.

RC often prefers Holy Tradition than God's Word when the two collide. For example, Matthew 23:9 says "Don't call anyone on earth Father for you have one Father and He is in heaven" (referring to a spiritual context Father) yet the priests are called "Father".

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 15, 2023 01:33 PM (YXHzG)

In our Sunday School it was explained that the Priest is taking the place of Jesus when re-enacting the Last Supper each mass and consecrating the host. Thus he has to be a man. We do have the veneration of Mary and Nunneries to welcome women, and when they introduced lay servers to actually hand out the host they can be women.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 15, 2023 01:46 PM (eoQWY)

337 Maybe Junia was a man who identified as a woman.
(ducks and runs away)

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2023 01:46 PM (i9ffA)

338 224 I take no position on female clergy and congregants, one way or the other. Not my fight.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 15, 2023 01:46 PM (MvF+J)

339 I feel in my bone that sumptin has been crossed

Posted by: Ruby Con at June 15, 2023 01:46 PM (us2H3)

340 Man, the hits just keep on coming in this manual:
Tools do a better and safer job when used in the manner for which they are designed. Plan your work before starting, and use the correct tool for the job.

These guys have awfully high expectations.

But it is kinda refreshing to see a pretty straightforward, "Hey, dummy! Don't be such a damn dummy! Pay attention and shoot straight for once" kind of message.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:46 PM (t0OGg)

341
I'm saying that Paul Ryan is the type that's perfectly happy to wallow in the mudhole without making a fuss or becoming a target. When the Ryan types pipe up, it's usually because of a dangling carrot or a couple of wise guys standing in the wings.
Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2023 01:41 PM (rj6Yv)



No argument here. Paul Ryan is bought and paid for and thinks that conservatives actually give a rat's ass about what he says and his handlers made a request.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 15, 2023 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)

342 Speaking of hot chicks, I suspect Paul Ryan isn't interested in the culture war for the same reason as Lindsey Graham

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:47 PM (xcxpd)

343 Careful - women are, and have always been, the equal of men. This has always been the case.

*************

As it should have always been, men and women are equal in terms of equality of opportunity.

Women want to join the army? Great, meet the same rigid physical standards as everyone else. Don't fucking say there's no difference between men and women and then at the same time demand that women be given a lower bar of entry just for them or a handicap like its fucking golf.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 15, 2023 01:47 PM (VTu1l)

344 This bikini blonde thinks that culture war must be fought, and that Ryan and the rest of his panty-waisted, limp-wristed, tucked-under, on-the-take cabal of mewling bastards should get the hell out of the way:
https://is.gd/KbRBRj
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (t0OGg)

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America!

Though, to be honest, she feels like she belongs in a Bud Light ad from 1993.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:30 PM (LvTSG)
***

She could make the little General stand up and salute any time!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2023 01:47 PM (e4fEA)

345 I don't know, she looks pretty fit to me.

Posted by: wth at June 15, 2023 01:47 PM (v0R5T)

346
Remember, banning gay marriage was a winning issue in...deep blue CA.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 15, 2023 01:05 PM (lc5cP)



Driven largely by the black churches in CA. A fact which was ruthlessly suppressed by the MFM and every commie cocksucker in CA. And when the state constitutional amendment was approved by voters, the MFM couldn't scream "MORMONS MORMONS MORMONS!" loud enough.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 15, 2023 01:47 PM (n+4am)

347 "Paul Ryan tells conservatives..."

And I should listen to an enemy propagandist...why?

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 15, 2023 01:47 PM (wNDOJ)

348 @193

>>I don't doubt some people's exhaustion with the Trump show (ace's seems quite genuine), but I think the idea is largely about building a narrative rather than actually trying to figure out Republican voters and their desires.

I understand Ace's anger at Trump, he did not like Trump, he grudgingly supported him, his support cost him dearly in friends and social standing within his peer group and he's never gotten over it.

If Trumps the nominee, he will grudgingly support him, but he won't like it one bit, but that's just the way things have to be right now.


You know how many shit ass GOP candidates I've had to hold my nose and vote for being born and raised in NYC?


A F**kton, and I'd vote every one of those pathetic motherf**kers over The Meat Puppet.


Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 15, 2023 01:47 PM (up/3i)

349 I get tired of "clear church tradition" morphing into Biblical teaching somehow.
Posted by: parsimony at June 15, 2023 01:44 PM (q1I67)

I get tired of "X happened once in the Bible that one time" morphing into Iron Clad Scriptural Law For All Time

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 15, 2023 01:47 PM (9UlRk)

350 334 What's so big a deal about that? That would be nice. I could almost get behind that. But is that in the offing, anywhere, ever? Is that ever ThE MeSSaGe that gets promulgated by official government organs (squick intended) and the Educational-Industrial Complex?

No.

So to hell with them.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 15, 2023 01:46 PM (9UlRk)

========

If there was a centralized authority of gay people, that would be nice. Instead, they have a miasma of NGOs that "represent" them along with allies in media and government that push the message that they choose.

I do not know how the gay community as a whole feels about secret gender reassignment for children at schools. I am pretty sure I know what the loudest voices on gay Twitter think, though that's possibly as reflective of real life as all of Twitter is reflective of real life.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:48 PM (LvTSG)

351 187 I slept with 278,000 different women and I forgot to wear a condom every single time.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 15, 2023 01:26 PM (DZDR7)

I can totally see this happening.

Posted by: Shawn Kemp at June 15, 2023 01:48 PM (53oGX)

352 What's so big a deal about that? That would be nice. I could almost get behind that. But is that in the offing, anywhere, ever? Is that ever ThE MeSSaGe that gets promulgated by official government organs (squick intended) and the Educational-Industrial Complex?

No.

So to hell with them.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 15, 2023 01:46 PM (9UlRk)

Well, think of it more like a college football coach telling recruits that he's OK with whatever decision they make and he won't try to influence their decisions.

Because recruitment is what it's allllll about.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 15, 2023 01:48 PM (KbCG3)

353 Prosperity gospel preachers are nominally men/women of God. They make bank selling this version of christianity to the rubes who lap it up. They are despicable people.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at June 15, 2023 01:48 PM (flINI)

354 I remember watching C-Span right after the 2017 inauguration ceremony, with House Speaker Paul Ryan giving President Donald Trump a personal tour of the Capitol Building.

Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2023 01:49 PM (rj6Yv)

355 Speaking of hot chicks, I suspect Paul Ryan isn't interested in the culture war for the same reason as Lindsey Graham
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:47 PM (xcxpd)



Butsecks?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 15, 2023 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)

356 "I am baffled by "clear biblical teaching" that there should be no female pastors when there are literal female pastors noted in Acts & the epistles."

You're going to have to show me that. The closest I can think of is Priscilla and I don't believe she's ever called a pastor.

Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2023 01:49 PM (hOPog)

357 Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 01:10 PM (eOEVl)

Is your pastor woke? I assume she's not or you would find another church?


She is not. I'd describe her as a moderate, but the truth is that I don't know much about her political views, and to me, that is a high recommendation.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 01:49 PM (eOEVl)

358 348 You know how many shit ass GOP candidates I've had to hold my nose and vote for being born and raised in NYC?


A F**kton, and I'd vote every one of those pathetic motherf**kers over The Meat Puppet.


Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 15, 2023 01:47 PM (up/3i)

=========

Very true. It merely entertains me now that the GOPe is so powerless in their own primary that their great white hope is the guy fighting the culture war the hardest,...and even he doesn't have a serious shot at beating Trump.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:49 PM (LvTSG)

359 355 Speaking of hot chicks, I suspect Paul Ryan isn't interested in the culture war for the same reason as Lindsey Graham
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:47 PM (xcxpd)


Butsecks?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 15, 2023 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)

Yeah, I reckon

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:49 PM (xcxpd)

360 Giving Obama 20% more than he asked for is polarizing guys.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 15, 2023 01:50 PM (SVzZl)

361
I can totally see this happening.
Posted by: Shawn Kemp at June 15, 2023 01:48 PM (53oGX)



Piker.

Posted by: Nick Cannon at June 15, 2023 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

362 There are female prophets in Acts but not pastors IIRC

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:50 PM (xcxpd)

363 348 Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 15, 2023 01:47 PM (up/3i)

Ah 2016 over and over and over again, it was explained forcefully to the OG Never Trumpers that if I could hold my nose for Juan Queeg, Pierre Delicto etc etc they sure as fuck could hold theirs for Orange Toupee Weasel.

Posted by: sven at June 15, 2023 01:50 PM (X0I7i)

364 In the Bible it says, "God made man in His own image." He made women after, from a rib, a cheaper cut.
Posted by: Archie Bunker at June 15, 2023 01:39 PM (aD39U)

...

I get the Archie Bunker joke but just for anyone who hasn't actually read Genesis in a bit:

God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created. God blessed them; and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth".

It goes on of course, I encourage you all to read it again. In no place in that passage is in the creation of man and woman any difference in value, order, authority etc. given. All the charges are given to the plural "them."

Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2023 01:51 PM (z/ifB)

365 "Paul Ryan tells conservatives..."

And I should listen to an enemy propagandist...why?
Posted by: McLurkerson


Drink more Ovaltine!

Posted by: Paul Ryan, encoding his message at June 15, 2023 01:51 PM (vcOmj)

366 Fk Paul Ryan, he destroyed President Trump administration going against everything he santed

Posted by: Skip at June 15, 2023 01:51 PM (YmBpC)

367 I actually agree, in the sense that the "CoNsErVaTiVe" controlled opposition has done more harm than good--they've done no good, in fact--and prevented a genuine right-wing response to the Left from ever forming while our nations were being ethnically cleansed, which of course was the intent.

The reality is that the so called "culture war" was lost long ago. It was a total rout in which worthless retarded "Conservative" pussies with no principles surrendered every single battle to the Satanic left without a fight. Then "conservative" grifters eventually come slithering back to advocate the Leftist position from 10 years ago and pretend they're defending tradition. At this point I have far more contempt for these backstabbers than for the Left, who at least are open about thir evil.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at June 15, 2023 01:51 PM (0Uf+z)

368 I can totally see this happening.
Posted by: Shawn Kemp at June 15, 2023 01:48 PM (53oGX)


Piker.
Posted by: Nick Cannon at June 15, 2023 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

***

The childrens table is over there...

Posted by: Wilt Chamberlain at June 15, 2023 01:52 PM (flINI)

369 Paul Ryan, Lindsey Graham, Pete Buttplug, and RuPaul walk into a bar . . .

Posted by: Bamanarama at June 15, 2023 01:52 PM (uH1aC)

370 347 "Paul Ryan tells conservatives..."

And I should listen to an enemy propagandist...why?
Posted by: McLurkerson at June 15, 2023 01:47 PM (wNDOJ)

This.
Paul Ryan is a backstabbing cocksucker.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:52 PM (xcxpd)

371 NOBODY in Janesville, Wisconsin, has the slightest use for Paul Ryan as he got all full of himself and blocked off his entire block where he lived, Ala Barack Obama, and he has a richly deserved reputation as a cheap motherfucker who never, EVER! tipped anyone for anything. His bitch-assed attitude is well-known in Rock County WI.
He's the absolute worst kind of ChoC GOP. He's trash, squared.
'Get a real job'.
He's a worthless piece of shit.
Fuck. Him.

Posted by: LenNeal at June 15, 2023 01:52 PM (/BBNv)

372 Too skinny. I don't like being able to see a woman's ribcage.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 15, 2023 01:40 PM (AW0uW)


Not until they go in the oven, anyway.

Posted by: Hannibal Lecter, gourmand at June 15, 2023 01:52 PM (ivvNA)

373 Paul Ryan, Lindsey Graham, Pete Buttplug, and RuPaul walk into a bar . . .
Posted by: Bamanarama at June 15, 2023 01:52 PM (uH1aC)
++++
The bar did not serve Bud Light...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:52 PM (t0OGg)

374 Are female rabbis a thing? I am guessing reform goes with it, but I don't know, never really thought about it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:53 PM (zZu0s)

375 Paul Ryan isn't even in office anymore, is he?

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 15, 2023 01:53 PM (MvF+J)

376 But it is kinda refreshing to see a pretty straightforward, "Hey, dummy! Don't be such a damn dummy! Pay attention and shoot straight for once" kind of message.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:46 PM (t0OGg)


Who wrote the manual, Fred Sanford?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 15, 2023 01:53 PM (AW0uW)

377 Paul Ryan /spit/ will be singing the same tune when the Leftist scum bring their campaign to make sex with minors culturally acceptable and legal out into the open. Once you've sold-out to the Leftists in the Culture Wars, there's no going back. He knows this. Making him scum.

Posted by: Gref at June 15, 2023 01:53 PM (AMIL/)

378 There are female prophets in Acts but not pastors IIRC
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:50 PM (xcxpd)

...

Prisca/Priscilla of Priscilla and Aquilla is almost certainly one. She is given top billing in the majority of references to the two of them, and they instruct Apollos, are with Paul as he begins his tentmaking phase, etc. The order of the names is unusual (female being listed first) so it seems fair to infer that the reason the order is given this way in Acts implies significance and maybe even primacy to her ministry role.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2023 01:53 PM (z/ifB)

379 ***

The childrens table is over there...
Posted by: Wilt Chamberlain at June 15, 2023 01:52 PM (flINI)



Oh sure. You CLAIM to have laid a lot of pipe, but I've got a football team worth of kids running around, old man.

Posted by: Nick Cannon at June 15, 2023 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)

380 The argument that men and women are equal because they are both the image of God goes away when you read that Jesus Christ is also the image of God. It's not a valid argument and one passage of scripture does not negate another passage of scripture.

Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2023 01:54 PM (hOPog)

381 Too skinny. I don't like being able to see a woman's ribcage.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 15, 2023 01:40 PM (AW0uW)


I guess I'll take her if I must...

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 15, 2023 01:54 PM (XtkZj)

382 369 Paul Ryan, Lindsey Graham, Pete Buttplug, and RuPaul walk into a bar . . .
Posted by: Bamanarama at June 15, 2023 01:52 PM (uH1aC)

The Blue Oyster?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:54 PM (xcxpd)

383 As it should have always been, men and women are equal in terms of equality of opportunity.

Women want to join the army? Great, meet the same rigid physical standards as everyone else. Don't fucking say there's no difference between men and women and then at the same time demand that women be given a lower bar of entry just for them or a handicap like its fucking golf.
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 15, 2023 01:47 PM (VTu1l)

The Israeli army had tons of reasons to want female troops to work out but found over years that normal acts like crossing terrain with a pack could and did cause debilitating injuries.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 15, 2023 01:54 PM (eoQWY)

384 Not until they go in the oven, anyway.
Posted by: Hannibal Lecter, gourmand at June 15, 2023 01:52 PM (ivvNA)

How many women did Hannibal Lecter kill? I cannot think of many... in the tv series or that god awful sequel book.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:54 PM (zZu0s)

385
We do have the veneration of Mary and Nunneries to welcome women, and when they introduced lay servers to actually hand out the host they can be women.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 15, 2023 01:46 PM (eoQWY)


I refuse to take Communion in a Novus Ordo Mass any more. If the Host contains the Real Presence of Christ, as we are bound to believe, then it shouldn't be touched by other than consecrated hands.

If a bishop in his wisdom decides to delegate the responsibility of distributing Communion to lay Extraordinary Ministers, well, I'm not going to argue. But no, I'm not going to take the Host in my hand.

The pastor at my FSSP parish said during COVID that if the Archdiocese said receiving Communion on the tongue was out then we weren't going to have Communion, period.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 15, 2023 01:54 PM (MoZTd)

386 367 I actually agree, in the sense that the "CoNsErVaTiVe" controlled opposition has done more harm than good--they've done no good, in fact--and prevented a genuine right-wing response to the Left from ever forming while our nations were being ethnically cleansed, which of course was the intent.

The reality is that the so called "culture war" was lost long ago. It was a total rout in which worthless retarded "Conservative" pussies with no principles surrendered every single battle to the Satanic left without a fight. Then "conservative" grifters eventually come slithering back to advocate the Leftist position from 10 years ago and pretend they're defending tradition. At this point I have far more contempt for these backstabbers than for the Left, who at least are open about thir evil.
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at June 15, 2023 01:51 PM (0Uf+z)

I prefer to think of it as lulling them into a false sense of security.
This was to first destroy a terrible light beer, but next to finally gain enough support to reduce the increase in the budget for Planned Parenthood by 2.5%.

Posted by: Shawn Kemp at June 15, 2023 01:54 PM (53oGX)

387 Speaking as a Protestant, I think priestly celibacy is a much bigger problem for the RC Church than the non-ordination of women.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:54 PM (K8wm4)

388 off sock

Posted by: Inogame at June 15, 2023 01:54 PM (53oGX)

389 382 369 Paul Ryan, Lindsey Graham, Pete Buttplug, and RuPaul walk into a bar . . .
Posted by: Bamanarama at June 15, 2023 01:52 PM (uH1aC)

The Blue Oyster?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:54 PM (xcxpd)

========

Sounds like some kind of cult.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:55 PM (LvTSG)

390 "Prisca/Priscilla of Priscilla and Aquilla is almost certainly one."

She is introduced as Aquilla's wife, a position described in Timothy and Titus.

Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2023 01:55 PM (hOPog)

391
The Blue Oyster?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:54 PM (xcxpd)



Cult >

Posted by: Nick Cannon at June 15, 2023 01:55 PM (Zz0t1)

392 It goes on of course, I encourage you all to read it again. In no place in that passage is in the creation of man and woman any difference in value, order, authority etc. given. All the charges are given to the plural "them."
Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2023 01:51 PM (z/ifB)

Okay, it is obvious you cannot argue honestly. First, woman is created as a companion and helpmeet for the husband. Once, sin entered the world, the role is more explicit with woman desiring a husband. Late in the New Testament, notice the duties of husband and wife to each other are different due to their separate roles and natures.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 15, 2023 01:55 PM (GNPj+)

393 371 Rockford says hi!

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 15, 2023 01:55 PM (MvF+J)

394 And shit......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 15, 2023 01:55 PM (Zz0t1)

395 MSNBC, for the first time since 2018, beat Fox News and CNN in primetime among adults 25-54 and total viewers. It was the most-watched basic cable network in primetime this past week, averaging [a pathetic] 1.52 million total viewers — its largest average primetime audience since the 2022 midterm elections. MSNBC also averaged 172,000 adults 25-54 in primetime, more than its cable news rivals and No. 8 on all of basic cable.

Posted by: SMOD at June 15, 2023 01:55 PM (RHGPo)

396 Paul Ryan, PowerPoint Pussy. He's gonna balance the budget by 2020. Remember that one?

Posted by: ... at June 15, 2023 01:55 PM (zrZ/x)

397 378 There are female prophets in Acts but not pastors IIRC
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:50 PM (xcxpd)

...

Prisca/Priscilla of Priscilla and Aquilla is almost certainly one. She is given top billing in the majority of references to the two of them, and they instruct Apollos, are with Paul as he begins his tentmaking phase, etc. The order of the names is unusual (female being listed first) so it seems fair to infer that the reason the order is given this way in Acts implies significance and maybe even primacy to her ministry role.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2023 01:53 PM (z/ifB)

That inference sounds like a stretch. But I'd need to read more to say more there.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:56 PM (xcxpd)

398 395 MSNBC, for the first time since 2018, beat Fox News and CNN in primetime among adults 25-54 and total viewers. It was the most-watched basic cable network in primetime this past week, averaging [a pathetic] 1.52 million total viewers — its largest average primetime audience since the 2022 midterm elections. MSNBC also averaged 172,000 adults 25-54 in primetime, more than its cable news rivals and No. 8 on all of basic cable.
Posted by: SMOD at June 15, 2023 01:55 PM (RHGPo)

======

Paul Ryan, leading the Fox News network as part of the board of directors like he led the House of Representatives.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:56 PM (LvTSG)

399 This fuck had a Ten Year Plan.

Posted by: ... at June 15, 2023 01:56 PM (auIwS)

400 Dear God our fathermother, infinite chick with dick from before time began, we doth pray of xhee/xhey/xhem for xhine blessings upon our degeneracy.

Posted by: Great. Now they're transing God at June 15, 2023 01:56 PM (fE1zA)

401 146 Irene Ryan >>>>> Paul Ryan
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:18 PM (K8wm4)
=================
This. She can shoot, for one thing, and she has zero patience for idiots in suits crying out, "surrender!"
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 15, 2023 01:22 PM (iF1KJ)


And her fried possum is to die for!

Posted by: Lowell Redlings Farquhar at June 15, 2023 01:56 PM (PiwSw)

402
Speaking as a Protestant, I think priestly celibacy is a much bigger problem for the RC Church than the non-ordination of women.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:54 PM (K8wm4)


The Church has had priestly celibacy for centuries. Why is it any more of a problem now?


Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 15, 2023 01:56 PM (MoZTd)

403 389 382 369 Paul Ryan, Lindsey Graham, Pete Buttplug, and RuPaul walk into a bar . . .
Posted by: Bamanarama at June 15, 2023 01:52 PM (uH1aC)

Zippers in Dallas

Posted by: Ruby Con at June 15, 2023 01:56 PM (us2H3)

404 397 That inference sounds like a stretch. But I'd need to read more to say more there.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:56 PM (xcxpd)

=======

Incorrect!

Opine!

Opine forcefully and vociferously!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:56 PM (LvTSG)

405 Blue Oyster Cult > Blue Oyster Bar

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:56 PM (xcxpd)

406 There are female prophets in Acts but not pastors IIRC

***************

There were prophetessseseseeses(?) and female judges of Israel, but never a pastor or a deacon in the NT. In Acts they were referred to as helpers or servants.

To meet the criteria of the office of deacon and bishop (the only two church titles expressly mentioned in the Bible that I know of) you had to be the husband of one wife with kids and a proven record of keeping your house in order. If you cant control your kids then how can you manage the house of God, as the verses go.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 15, 2023 01:56 PM (VTu1l)

407 Who wrote the manual, Fred Sanford?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 15, 2023 01:53 PM (AW0uW)
++++
LOL. Man, I'll bet he writes one hell of an owner's manual!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 01:57 PM (t0OGg)

408 Ryan should go sign up for the Cultural Marxists

Posted by: Skip at June 15, 2023 01:57 PM (YmBpC)

409 next they'll want lesbian pastors or trans pastors. Not happening.Posted by: Jaimo at June 15, 2023 01:14 PM (DBrN4)


I mean it's not much of a stretch, considering the church has had tons of gay priests for decades, hence all the kiddie diddling.

Posted by: Rbastid at June 15, 2023 01:57 PM (rMqsK)

410 I actually agree, in the sense that the "CoNsErVaTiVe" controlled opposition has done more harm than good--they've done no good, in fact--and prevented a genuine right-wing response to the Left from ever forming while our nations were being ethnically cleansed, which of course was the intent.

The reality is that the so called "culture war" was lost long ago. It was a total rout in which worthless retarded "Conservative" pussies with no principles surrendered every single battle to the Satanic left without a fight. Then "conservative" grifters eventually come slithering back to advocate the Leftist position from 10 years ago and pretend they're defending tradition. At this point I have far more contempt for these backstabbers than for the Left, who at least are open about thir evil.
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at June 15, 2023 01:51 PM (0Uf+z)

The fact that you wrote that and that this culture isn't universally accepted shows your premise is incorrect. The establishment has fallen, but the people are unconvinced and the elite needs them to get on board.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 15, 2023 01:57 PM (eoQWY)

411 As I commented here sometime back, Paul Ryan is basically Jonah Goldberg with a gym membership.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 15, 2023 01:57 PM (wb1YC)

412 That inference sounds like a stretch. But I'd need to read more to say more there.

This is NOT the AOSHQ way. Acceptable responses are "liar!", "RINO!", and "apostate!".

Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 01:57 PM (eOEVl)

413 The problem with a lot of churches is they don't actually teach the Bible. They pull some verses here and there and do a sermon. They don't go through line by line, chapter by chapter, book by book. They don't spend a year teaching a book in depth. Our church is planning on spending 2025 in Revelations... should be fun! Actually it does give me hope. 🙏🏻😊

Posted by: lin-duh at June 15, 2023 01:58 PM (RRoc1)

414 Incorrect!

Opine!

Opine forcefully and vociferously!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:56 PM (LvTSG)

*gets out my Billy Wilder critical exegesis*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:58 PM (xcxpd)

415 Paul Ryan, Lindsey Graham, Pete Buttplug, and RuPaul walk into a bar . . .
Posted by: Bamanarama at June 15, 2023 01:52 PM (uH1aC)
.........

Bartender says: "Hello fellas, take a stool."

Posted by: wth at June 15, 2023 01:58 PM (v0R5T)

416 412 LOL

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 15, 2023 01:58 PM (MvF+J)

417 413 The problem with a lot of churches is they don't actually teach the Bible. They pull some verses here and there and do a sermon. They don't go through line by line, chapter by chapter, book by book. They don't spend a year teaching a book in depth. Our church is planning on spending 2025 in Revelations... should be fun! Actually it does give me hope. 🙏🏻😊
Posted by: lin-duh at June 15, 2023 01:58 PM (RRoc1)

========

"...give...me...money..."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:58 PM (LvTSG)

418
Incorrect!

Opine!

Opine forcefully and vociferously!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Beat me to it.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 01:58 PM (eOEVl)

419 It goes on of course, I encourage you all to read it again. In no place in that passage is in the creation of man and woman any difference in value, order, authority etc. given. All the charges are given to the plural "them."
Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2023 01:51 PM (z/ifB)

Also read chapter 2.

And chapter 3 for what happens when men step back and let women make the decisions.

Which frankly is the bigger problem here. Prideful women can be ignored (or at least would be without universal suffrage). Slothful men are depriving the Creation of whatever they were put here to do, and we are all the worse for it.

Posted by: Methos at June 15, 2023 01:58 PM (kOpft)

420 Insofar as I may be heard by anything, which may or may not care what I say, I ask, if it matters, that you be forgiven for anything you may have done or failed to do which requires forgiveness. Conversely, if not forgiveness but something else may be required to insure any possible benefit for which you may be eligible after the destruction of your body, I ask that this, whatever it may be, be granted or withheld, as the case may be, in such a manner as to insure your receiving said benefit. I ask this in my capacity as your elected intermediary between yourself and that which may not be yourself, but which may have an interest in the matter of your receiving as much as it is possible for you to receive of this thing, and which may in some way be influenced by this ceremony. Except Paul Ryan. He is anathema. Amen.
(Roger Zelazny, Creatures of Light and Darkness, © 1969)

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 15, 2023 01:59 PM (u82oZ)

421 414 *gets out my Billy Wilder critical exegesis*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:58 PM (xcxpd)

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Do it! I ain't him! I won't feel nothin'!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:59 PM (LvTSG)

422 411 As I commented here sometime back, Paul Ryan is basically Jonah Goldberg with a gym membership.
Posted by: Azathoth at June 15, 2023 01:57 PM (wb1YC)

Objection! I have never heard Paul Ryan refer to his couch, dog or ask sandwich related questions.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 01:59 PM (zZu0s)

423 Why does he think anyone will listen to him?

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at June 15, 2023 01:59 PM (dQfJF)

424 You're going to have to show me that. The closest I can think of is Priscilla and I don't believe she's ever called a pastor.
Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2023 01:49 PM (hOPog)

It's true that way more men are listed as having roles. But there are quite a lot of women listed if you go beyond Acts to Paul's other letters.

There is no term "pastor" in Acts.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2023 01:59 PM (z/ifB)

425 As I commented here sometime back, Paul Ryan is basically Jonah Goldberg with a gym membership.
Posted by: Azathoth at June 15, 2023 01:57 PM (wb1YC)

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... who eats hot dogs and KNOWS they are sandwiches

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at June 15, 2023 01:59 PM (flINI)

426 380 What, so women are some kind of animal, a lower species?

Jesus was the embodiment of a particular person of the Godhead, the Son.

Doesn’t mean that women don’t embody some aspect of God.

I really do not understand this Christian misogyny.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:59 PM (K8wm4)

427 I refuse to take Communion in a Novus Ordo Mass any more. If the Host contains the Real Presence of Christ, as we are bound to believe, then it shouldn't be touched by other than consecrated hands.

If a bishop in his wisdom decides to delegate the responsibility of distributing Communion to lay Extraordinary Ministers, well, I'm not going to argue. But no, I'm not going to take the Host in my hand.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 15, 2023 01:54 PM (MoZTd)

I always made them put it in my mouth. Too many "Nun Stories" about people touching a dropped host and being struck by lightning and such for me to take chances.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 15, 2023 02:00 PM (eoQWY)

428 I really do not understand this Christian misogyny.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:59 PM (K8wm4)



Clearly.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 15, 2023 02:00 PM (aD39U)

429 412 That inference sounds like a stretch. But I'd need to read more to say more there.

This is NOT the AOSHQ way. Acceptable responses are "liar!", "RINO!", and "apostate!".
Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 01:57 PM (eOEVl)

You forgot 'cuck', 'get your vespa' and 'your messenger bag is slipping.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 02:00 PM (zZu0s)

430 Incorrect!

Opine!

Opine forcefully and vociferously!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:56 PM (LvTSG)

The hell with facts, context, critical thinking and systematic theology! Emote! Assume! Delude! Gaslight!

Posted by: The great pillars of any solid church at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (fE1zA)

431 there's about 80% of the GOP that are suspect fags

Posted by: Ruby Con at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (us2H3)

432 Southern Baptists refuse to take back megachurch because it has women pastors. Fundies in disarray! Love this title as it's often used against us. Republicans in disarray makes my day.

Organization Founded To Preserve Slavery Keeps People Out - Film At Eleven! I get so upset when discriminatory organizations don't let me join.

Those stupid fools. Women make some of the best pastoral leaders around, for one big reason is that they can be far more relevant to their congregations than the 'old boy' ministers. But hey, keep going backwards and losing more believers - they're dying anyway.

The slow death of a cult. We don’t want girl cooties in our manly club. They worship sky fairies. Supposed male sky ferries. See how silly that sounds?

The christian right always say US is "christian nation", but never say WHICH christian sect. "christian nation" is of course also a way to exclude jews and agnostics and atheists and many other "others".

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (JCZqz)

433 And chapter 3 for what happens when men step back and let women make the decisions.

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In Isaiah, it's mentioned what happens when women (and children) are permitted to be leaders (death and destruction follows)

I interpret children in these verses to mean soyboys and simps

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (VTu1l)

434 Speaking as a Protestant, I think priestly celibacy is a much bigger problem for the RC Church than the non-ordination of women.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:54 PM (K8wm4)

The Church has had priestly celibacy for centuries. Why is it any more of a problem now?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 15, 2023 01:56 PM (MoZTd)

I think we just hear more about the perversion in the Catholic church now, but it's not new.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (xcxpd)

435 Paul Ryan is to non-Conservatives as David French is to cucks.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (a3Q+t)

436 “I’m not a culture war guy. I think it’s really polarizing.”

Yeah, so was that whole Axis vs. Allies thing, USSR vs. the USA, etc., etc.

I can just hear the Critical Drinker in the back ground: "You can f*ck right off!"

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (ZSK0i)

437 "Paul Ryan: “I’m not a culture war guy. I think it’s really polarizing.”"

Also Paul Ryan; "I prefer other men pleasure my wife. That way there's no disappointment or conflict.

Posted by: Veritas at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (4KrXD)

438 411 As I commented here sometime back, Paul Ryan is basically Jonah Goldberg with a gym membership.
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And a better couch.

Posted by: Pudinhead at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (bA3Ln)

439 Very true. It merely entertains me now that the GOPe is so powerless in their own primary that their great white hope is the guy fighting the culture war the hardest,...and even he doesn't have a serious shot at beating Trump.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:49 PM (LvTSG)

Tbe irony hurts. I think that the interference in 2024 has so delegitimized the process no Republican can win now, but it would be almost certain the GOPe would be at RDS' throat within the first month if he made it. Ryan would be leading the cuck dancing.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 15, 2023 02:02 PM (KSNKu)

440 This fuck had a Ten Year Plan.
Posted by: ... at June 15, 2023 01:56 PM (auIwS)

So did Stalin.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 15, 2023 02:02 PM (eoQWY)

441 @Bulgaroctonus

You don't get to write things I didn't say. But if you're going to toss out insults, Paul didn't mince words when he stated clearly eomen aren't to teach or hold authority over a man, two of the primary roles of a pastor. How's that for misogyny?

Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2023 02:02 PM (hOPog)

442 You forgot 'cuck', 'get your vespa' and 'your messenger bag is slipping.'


Well, yeah, but those are just axiomatic.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 02:02 PM (eOEVl)

443 I think we just hear more about the perversion in the Catholic church now, but it's not new.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (xcxpd)

I hear sin goes back to the beginning times, even...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 15, 2023 02:03 PM (exHjb)

444 Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (JCZqz)

I have some concern

but it's really deep in my ass

and you will have to crawl up there to find it

Posted by: REDACTED at June 15, 2023 02:03 PM (us2H3)

445 442 You forgot 'cuck', 'get your vespa' and 'your messenger bag is slipping.'


Well, yeah, but those are just axiomatic.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 15, 2023 02:02 PM (eOEVl)

And Crocs. With bumper nuts on the heels.

Posted by: Can't forget at June 15, 2023 02:03 PM (fE1zA)

446 I went to a Catholic University. The priests and brothers who taught there were some of the loneliest men on the planet. It was sad really...

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at June 15, 2023 02:03 PM (flINI)

447 The argument that men and women are equal because they are both the image of God goes away when you read that Jesus Christ is also the image of God. It's not a valid argument and one passage of scripture does not negate another passage of scripture.
Posted by: someguy at June 15, 2023 01:54 PM (hOPog)

It's like the idea that a husband and a wife are equals in marriage. I'm sure it's popular to say, but if you actually believe it literally, you have no way of understanding the relationship between Christ and His bride, the Church.

Posted by: Methos at June 15, 2023 02:04 PM (kOpft)

448 Why does he think anyone will listen to him?
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at June 15, 2023 01:59 PM (dQfJF)

The idea that someone listens to him is why anyone pays him money.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 15, 2023 02:04 PM (eoQWY)

449 there are many ways to serve, if serving others and God is actually what you wish

I always try to think about the "why" of things like, why did our ancestors settle on the idea of only males taking on the particular job of the priesthood? they might have had a good reason, not necessarily one easy to voice, but something proven by time and experience.

I have enough empirical experience with female leadership to have the sense that there are probably other, better ways for ladies to serve. ways that men are not suited to; or sometimes ways suited to both sexes.

but no I'm not ready to tear down that fence Mr Chesterton!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 15, 2023 02:04 PM (w0NJk)

450 And chapter 3 for what happens when men step back and let women make the decisions.

Which frankly is the bigger problem here. Prideful women can be ignored (or at least would be without universal suffrage). Slothful men are depriving the Creation of whatever they were put here to do, and we are all the worse for it.
Posted by: Methos at June 15, 2023 01:58 PM (kOpft)

The idea that Adam was absent in the garden and sin is all Eve's fault is dangerously misogynist.

Tell me why Paul's entire treatise in Romans is about sin coming through the first Adam if sin is all just Eve's fault. And how Christ can then absolve sin as the second Adam.

Some have conjectured that the sinlessness of Christ's nature seems to be because he did not have an earthly father, and that the sin nature actually passes through men, and not women. Hence Mary can miraculously conceive a sinless baby.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2023 02:04 PM (z/ifB)

451 437 "Paul Ryan: “I’m not a culture war guy. I think it’s really polarizing.”"

Also Paul Ryan; "I prefer other men pleasure my wife. That way there's no disappointment or conflict.
Posted by: Veritas at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (4KrXD)

Does Ryan refer to his ass as his "wife?"

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 15, 2023 02:04 PM (KSNKu)

452 Lying Ryan. And even after I had realized the MFM were total liars during Barky's first term, I let the 'conservative' writers tell me that Ryan pulled the Romney Ryan ticket towards conservative side. I was so naive.

Posted by: PaleRider at June 15, 2023 02:04 PM (3cGpq)

453 The pastor at my FSSP parish said during COVID that if the Archdiocese said receiving Communion on the tongue was out then we weren't going to have Communion, period.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 15, 2023 01:54 PM (MoZTd)

As a counterpoint... if you're in a state of grace from confession, and the priest is validly administering the host, then your hands are every bit as consecrated as your tongue. And if your hands are not valid to receive the host, then neither is your tongue. You could receive
between your toes if you wanted to, (so long as it was in your heart to bring the Lord a bit of joy and not to be disrespectful). At the point of receiving, you are every bit as consecrated to receive as the priest is to distribute, or at least should be if you've done all the other sacraments right.

He gave His only Son to buy back your soul. He's not gonna throw that sacrifice away by quibbling at a formality in a ritual that you fully intended to glorify Him by.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 15, 2023 02:05 PM (9UlRk)

454 I really do not understand this Christian misogyny.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:59 PM (K8wm4)

So, you equate believing that Men and Women are Made for different things to be misogyny?

That seems to be going overboard. For myself the distinction of women being the driving force for woke in churches is foolish. I have met some ridiculously liberal priests. I have known some very conservative nuns. Man or Woman, each are susceptible to the commie mind virus. However, that is separate from my views on female clergy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 02:05 PM (zZu0s)

455 I also wanted to mention that Rick Warren is a c*nt.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 15, 2023 02:05 PM (VTu1l)

456 So Ace will probably cover but the US is under cyber attack at the moment. A pro-Russian group promised to also hit the entire European banking industry.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 15, 2023 02:05 PM (XtkZj)

457 You guys this is really starting to hurt.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 15, 2023 02:06 PM (dQfJF)

458 444 Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (JCZqz)

I have some concern
but it's really deep in my ass
and you will have to crawl up there to find it
Posted by: REDACTED at June 15, 2023 02:03 PM

Maybe if you dig around in there, you'll find the sense to realize (from my name) that I post clips relevant to the topic from the bat shit crazy left to point and laugh at.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 15, 2023 02:06 PM (JCZqz)

459
The priests and brothers who taught there were some of the loneliest men on the planet.

I'm sure priests are fine fellows, but I've never had a conversation with one where within 15 minutes I wasn't getting my knuckles rapped for something. If I have business to discuss, that's one thing, but otherwise apart from nodding "good morning" on Sunday if on the odd chance one passes, then no.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 15, 2023 02:06 PM (MoZTd)

460 How can I stop fighting the culture wars?

I think that reprobate activity and promotion is morally repugnant.

I don't hold that position because I'm a quasi-Republican. I hold it because I'm a Christian.

I held the position that I was a Republican because I thought their platform matched up best with my Christian beliefs.

If the GOP leadership is telling me they don't, I think that is okay, that is their choice. But I won't really be a Republican anymore.

Because outside of their aligning with my religious beliefs, they don't really line up with my government beliefs. They believe in deficit spending, endless war, enlarging the size of government, imprisoning J6 "terrorists", and many other positions that I disagree with. If they abandon their cultural platform, there is nothing left I agree with them about.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 15, 2023 02:06 PM (IAwid)

461 As I commented here sometime back, Paul Ryan is basically Jonah Goldberg with a gym membership.

They are not at all the same.

The hot dogs Jonah sticks in his mouth come from the grocery store frozen section.

Paul likes them fresh from the gym.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 15, 2023 02:06 PM (lc5cP)

462 The christian right always say US is "christian nation", but never say WHICH christian sect. "christian nation" is of course also a way to exclude jews and agnostics and atheists and many other "others".
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (JCZqz)
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Good grief. I've never been excluded from anything in this Christian Nation (and it is one, at least for now). The sect is unimportant because Christianity is universalist.

Which they probably know. They just like being rude.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2023 02:06 PM (t0OGg)

463 410 The fact that you wrote that and that this culture isn't universally accepted shows your premise is incorrect. The establishment has fallen, but the people are unconvinced and the elite needs them to get on board.
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The movement of our nation's corpse as it tumbles down the ever-steepening slope into the abyss should not be confused with life.

Yes, we still have farther to fall, but there is no longer any real force to prevent it, let alone reverse course.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at June 15, 2023 02:07 PM (0Uf+z)

464 So, you equate believing that Men and Women are Made for different things to be misogyny?
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Adam was made of clay. Eve was made of Adam - clay.

Posted by: Pudinhead at June 15, 2023 02:07 PM (bA3Ln)

465
Is Paul still claiming he’s all Reagan-y?

Reagan ever pull this shit even when senile?

Posted by: Rev Dr Happy Hands at June 15, 2023 02:07 PM (WKD+E)

466 I think we just hear more about the perversion in the Catholic church now, but it's not new.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (xcxpd)

No, but the incidence increased a lot when they relaxed the rules against allowing gays to become monks and eventually priests in the 1970s because of recruitment falling.

The concealment of transgressions is just institutional protection, which needed to be fought by the top level men and wasn't.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 15, 2023 02:07 PM (eoQWY)

467 455 I also wanted to mention that Rick Warren is a c*nt.
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 15, 2023 02:05 PM (VTu1l)

Moved and seconded.
Talk about a Jonah Goldberg type...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 02:07 PM (xcxpd)

468 What is really off-putting about Paul Ryan is his boundless self regard. I remember the Ryan-BidEn VP debate where Ryan tried to impress the voters with his command of Afghanistan's geography. He came across as insufferably in love with himself and he was soundly trounced by Joe Biden, who was as crude and stupid as he is today, if somewhat less likely to crap his pants.

Posted by: Oglebay at June 15, 2023 02:07 PM (ogTiX)

469 It's like the idea that a husband and a wife are equals in marriage. I'm sure it's popular to say, but if you actually believe it literally, you have no way of understanding the relationship between Christ and His bride, the Church.

I don't think I would ever have the temerity to claim "Jesus is my co-pilot"

The doctrines of Headship have not changed just because modern evangelicals choose to syncretize with the fallen, carnal culture.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 15, 2023 02:07 PM (YXHzG)

470 "Paul Ryan: “I’m not a culture war guy. I think it’s really polarizing.”"


I've been thinking about this statement as I went to find a cup of coffee. What an incredibly stupid thing to say.
Just...dumb!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2023 02:08 PM (e4fEA)

471 As I commented here sometime back, Paul Ryan is basically Jonah Goldberg with a gym membership.
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And a better couch.
Posted by: Pudinhead at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (bA3Ln)

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And more than one pair of pants!

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 15, 2023 02:08 PM (wgR7U)

472 Adam was made of clay. Eve was made of Adam - clay.
Posted by: Pudinhead at June 15, 2023 02:07 PM (bA3Ln)

Not 'made from', 'made FOR'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop, Navel Lint level member at June 15, 2023 02:08 PM (zZu0s)

473 461 As I commented here sometime back, Paul Ryan is basically Jonah Goldberg with a gym membership.

They are not at all the same.

The hot dogs Jonah sticks in his mouth come from the grocery store frozen section.

Paul likes them fresh from the gym.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 15, 2023 02:06 PM (lc5cP)

Ok, I laughed at this one.
Points to 18-1

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 02:08 PM (xcxpd)

474 The Church has had priestly celibacy for centuries. Why is it any more of a problem now?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 15, 2023 01:56 PM (MoZTd)
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Fair point. It has probably always had as big an issue with it as today.

Probably a different conclusion than you would draw, but I suspect priests as a group have never been all that celibate.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 15, 2023 02:08 PM (Hxg18)

475 What is really off-putting about Paul Ryan is his boundless self regard. I remember the Ryan-BidEn VP debate where Ryan tried to impress the voters with his command of Afghanistan's geography. He came across as insufferably in love with himself and he was soundly trounced by Joe Biden, who was as crude and stupid as he is today, if somewhat less likely to crap his pants.

In reality, Paul Ryan was debating cocaine using Biden as its avatar.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 15, 2023 02:08 PM (YXHzG)

476 Paul Ryan: Surrender to the Left in the Culture Wars.

Peace in our time.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 15, 2023 02:09 PM (lf83v)

477 The Left: PUT YOUR MOUTH ON IT.

Paul Ryan: mmmbllggrglllmmmmmssslllllmmmm

Posted by: Random Internet Asshole at June 15, 2023 02:09 PM (8LP6B)

478 If the Left was somehow magically able to start loading conservatives onto train cars, Ryan would be the guy in the crowd reminding everyone to wipe their feet before they get on.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 15, 2023 02:09 PM (wb1YC)

479 I held the position that I was a Republican because I thought their platform matched up best with my Christian beliefs.

If the GOP leadership is telling me they don't, I think that is okay, that is their choice. But I won't really be a Republican anymore.

Because outside of their aligning with my religious beliefs, they don't really line up with my government beliefs. They believe in deficit spending, endless war, enlarging the size of government, imprisoning J6 "terrorists", and many other positions that I disagree with. If they abandon their cultural platform, there is nothing left I agree with them about.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 15, 2023 02:06 PM (IAwid)

Very well put, BC. I feel the same.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2023 02:09 PM (i9ffA)

480 You know what else is polarizing?

Christianity.

Or is that what he's saying is polarizing....

🤔

Posted by: ... at June 15, 2023 02:10 PM (uVNqQ)

481 The Spice must flow.

Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2023 02:10 PM (rj6Yv)

482 Adam was made of clay. Eve was made of Adam - clay.
_______

What about Cassius?

Posted by: Marc Anthony at June 15, 2023 02:10 PM (lf83v)

483 I don't think I would ever have the temerity to claim "Jesus is my co-pilot"

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That's the problem with modern marriage, when they say it's a democracy that really means it's the wife making all the decisions.

I have learned the hard way that "Whatever you want dear" gets old really fast. Don't ask me how I know.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 15, 2023 02:10 PM (VTu1l)

484 So, you equate believing that Men and Women are Made for different things to be misogyny?
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Adam was made of clay. Eve was made of Adam - clay.
Posted by: Pudinhead at June 15, 2023 02:07 PM (bA3Ln)

I would say instead that everyone insisting that women must be made into a copy of men in thought, dreams and lifestyle is being extremely misogynistic.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 15, 2023 02:10 PM (eoQWY)

485 Probably a different conclusion than you would draw, but I suspect priests as a group have never been all that celibate.

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Pape Alexander VI, the Borgia pope at June 15, 2023 02:10 PM (eOEVl)

486 "...give...me...money..."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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My church doesn't even do a collection during service. They don't even mention it at every service. There is a discreet box you can drop an offering in if you wish or give online. It is not pushed. Unusual, it was weird at first.

Posted by: lin-duh at June 15, 2023 02:10 PM (RRoc1)

487 471 As I commented here sometime back, Paul Ryan is basically Jonah Goldberg with a gym membership.
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And a better couch.
Posted by: Pudinhead at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (bA3Ln)
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And more than one pair of pants!
Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 15, 2023 02:08 PM

And a lack of encyclopedic knowledge of Simpsons references!

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 15, 2023 02:10 PM (JCZqz)

488 Anyway I thought the problem was Trump. Too divisive.

Now the Culture War is a problem too? Too divisive?

Huh.

Posted by: ... at June 15, 2023 02:10 PM (uVNqQ)

489 456 As far as I can tell, that CNN cyberattack story is seven days old. Here's the link to the story at CISA:
https://tinyurl.com/5d4yrmpy

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 15, 2023 02:10 PM (MvF+J)

490 Paul Ryan Tells Conservatives To Stop Fighting the Culture War, Because It's "Polarizing"

Same thing pretty much everyone on the right, save for social conservatives, was saying 10-12 years ago. Can't fight the culture war and icky things like abortion and indoctrination in schools and "same-sex marriage", because it's divisive and polarizing. Stick to economics and judges and stay quiet about social conservative issues.

Was a popular refrain on this blog and in the comments as well. Gotta focus on "electability" and stay away from "polarizing" candidates who want to bring up social conservative issues.

Worked out wonderfully.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 15, 2023 02:10 PM (60h0q)

491 You know what isn't divisive? Marxists. They're just Speaking Their Truth.

Posted by: ... at June 15, 2023 02:11 PM (uVNqQ)

492 nood

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 15, 2023 02:11 PM (MvF+J)

493 The hot dogs Jonah sticks in his mouth come from the grocery store frozen section.

Paul likes them fresh from the gym.
Posted by: 18-1

****

Oh don't worry, Jonah does too. It's just for him the whole thing looks like far too much work.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 15, 2023 02:11 PM (wb1YC)

494 As I commented here sometime back, Paul Ryan is basically Jonah Goldberg with a gym membership.
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And a better couch.
Posted by: Pudinhead at June 15, 2023 02:01 PM (bA3Ln)

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And more than one pair of pants!
Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 15, 2023 02:08 PM (wgR7U)

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BITCH you try and buy pants with a 60 inch waist!

Posted by: Jonah 'The Whale' Goldberg at June 15, 2023 02:11 PM (flINI)

495 I really do not understand this Christian misogyny.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 15, 2023 01:59 PM (K8wm4)

Then let me simplify it:
Traditional gender roles were correct.
This new wind of doctrine, "gender equality," that has taken weak willed women (and men who are afraid to argue with them) by storm here in the end of days (~1900 onward) is incorrect.

Posted by: Methos at June 15, 2023 02:12 PM (kOpft)

496 Probably a different conclusion than you would draw, but I suspect priests as a group have never been all that celibate.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 15, 2023 02:08 PM (Hxg1

Cesare Borgia, made Archbishop by his father the Pope, agrees.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2023 02:12 PM (i9ffA)

497 489 456 As far as I can tell, that CNN cyberattack story is seven days old. Here's the link to the story at CISA:
https://tinyurl.com/5d4yrmpy
Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at June 15, 2023 02:10 PM (MvF+J)


Ian Miles Cheong just now reported on it. Could be.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 15, 2023 02:12 PM (XtkZj)

498 The movement of our nation's corpse as it tumbles down the ever-steepening slope into the abyss should not be confused with life.

Yes, we still have farther to fall, but there is no longer any real force to prevent it, let alone reverse course.
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at June 15, 2023 02:07 PM

If the Left has won the cultural war, why is it desperately trying to recruit more soldiers?

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 15, 2023 02:12 PM (/+bwe)

499 Well, then he should leave! Go to New Zealand! Don't come back.

Posted by: runner at June 15, 2023 02:12 PM (uvOn5)

500 Adam was made of clay. Eve was made of Adam - clay.
Posted by: Pudinhead at June 15, 2023 02:07 PM (bA3Ln)

Not 'made from', 'made FOR'.


Try again. Add "Adam's rib" to your process. Clue: Genesis 2: 21-22

Also, who received the Breath of Life? Clue: Genesis 2:7

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 15, 2023 02:12 PM (YXHzG)

501 My wife gets everything she wants except when I say no and mean it. Way to a healthy marriage.

Posted by: ... at June 15, 2023 02:13 PM (uVNqQ)

502 The SBC says you can have women pastors.
But not in the SBC.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 15, 2023 02:13 PM (MeG8a)

503 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 15, 2023 02:06 PM (IAwid)

Along with the general Republican acquiescence with the political Trump prosecution, I think abandoning the culture war will lead to catastrophic GOP losses in 2024. I don't know how much that will matter as they generally do whatever the Deep State orders, but that is the reality we face.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 15, 2023 02:14 PM (KSNKu)

504 In Isaiah, it's mentioned what happens when women (and children) are permitted to be leaders (death and destruction follows)

I interpret children in these verses to mean soyboys and simps
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There are plenty of specific examples in Kings and Chronicles. Jezebel is notably a feminist icon.

Posted by: Methos at June 15, 2023 02:15 PM (kOpft)

505 Flaming Skull NOOD.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 15, 2023 02:16 PM (/+bwe)

506 Ryan's hoping people blame Trump for all the turmoil of the culture wars.

Some other purported conservatives are taking the same tack. They're just too tuckered out from all of Trump's bad press coverage.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at June 15, 2023 02:17 PM (UNQS9)

507
Paul Ryan, Lindsey Graham, Pete Buttplug, and RuPaul walk into a bar . . .
Posted by: Bamanarama at June 15, 2023 01:52 PM (uH1aC)

The Blue Oyster?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, gainfully employed again! But buy ammo at June 15, 2023 01:54 PM (xcxpd)

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Sounds like some kind of cult.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, perfectly captured in the frame by William Wyler at June 15, 2023 01:55 PM (LvTSG)



Sort of OT, but not OT is that Don (Buck Dharma) Roeser is a card-carrying AoS Moron. Teh Ewok did an interview with him years ago when the podcast was still running.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 15, 2023 02:18 PM (n+4am)

508 The idea that Adam was absent in the garden and sin is all Eve's fault is dangerously misogynist.

Tell me why Paul's entire treatise in Romans is about sin coming through the first Adam if sin is all just Eve's fault. And how Christ can then absolve sin as the second Adam.
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I said he stepped back, not that he was absent.

Eve is the one that was deceived (which Paul also said explicitly in another context you've apparently decided to ignore), and Adam went along with it, when he should have been her head and rejected Satan's advice on her behalf.

Posted by: Methos at June 15, 2023 02:19 PM (kOpft)

509 Some have conjectured that the sinlessness of Christ's nature seems to be because he did not have an earthly father, and that the sin nature actually passes through men, and not women. Hence Mary can miraculously conceive a sinless baby.
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This heresy needs its own response.

Christ's nature is sinless because He is God.

No further explanation or invention is needed. Mary, a sinner like the rest of us, contributed nothing to His sinlessness as his body was a creative work of the Holy Spirit. She incubated Him, as every other mother does her baby, but no conscious effort is involved in that, once conceived, the formation of His body was the result of the same biological processes as the rest of us.

Posted by: Methos at June 15, 2023 02:25 PM (kOpft)

510 Pretty sure that somewhere on a hard drive in the offices of Marc Elias there's an SD drive of Paul Ryan diddling an 11 year old boy.

Posted by: SMFH at June 15, 2023 02:32 PM (reI3N)

511 Apostolic churches believe the priesthood is a sacrament as well as a mission, and it was established at the Last Supper. There were no females present on that momentous occasion.

Apostolic = Roman Catholic and the 23 approved rites who claim communion with Rome. And the Orthodox rites who split with Rome but were founded by apostles who actually walked with and learned from and were martyred for Christ.

Posted by: kallisto at June 15, 2023 02:45 PM (THluz)

512 The day the RC Catholic church allows female priests is the day I become muslim.

Posted by: kallisto at June 15, 2023 02:46 PM (THluz)

513 LOL Paul Ryan looks like death warmed over. Not that that's entirely dispositive, but, still. He should not wear Shades of Brown.

Posted by: m at June 15, 2023 02:52 PM (aWeTk)

514 The culture war is "polarizing." Well, no shit, Shirlock.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 15, 2023 03:18 PM (XMwZJ)

515 What Paul Ryan and all of the other "fiscal conservative" types is that they seem to fail to understand that they are only making a utilitarian argument against collectivism. Arguing that it's just too darn expensive, while the other side is offering utopia fails to resonate.

Arguing that collectivism is immoral, steals the fruit of the labor of the worker, and requires the creation of an aristocracy to redistribute wealth is a better argument. 1) it's true and 2) it has the virtue of jettisoning those bloodless policy wonks from the discussion.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 15, 2023 03:21 PM (pJWtt)

516 Warren's successor at Saddleback is a female.

As I heard it, "female pastors" lost the vote 9,700-1XX or something like that.

They were crushed.

Posted by: dad29 at June 15, 2023 03:45 PM (O69GV)

517 I sincerely hope I get to meet Paul Ryan one day, so I can spit on him and tell him what a lowlife P.O.S. he is.

Posted by: Tracy at June 15, 2023 04:22 PM (0klyx)

518 Go pound sand, Pinhead

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519 Paul Ryan is a phony piece of shit. Him and Romney getting the piss beat out of them, was the best thing to ever happen to the GOP. These watered down, generic Kool Aid MF’ers are the worst.

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