Claim: Disney Is So Strapped For Cash That They're Wargaming Out a Sale of LucasFilm

Before getting to that: Last week I saw a story about a bearded transgender in a fairy princess dress greeting children at Disneyland. I thought this was about him standing in the parking lot, on his own, and figured it wasn't a huge story. I guess he has a free speech right to be there. Has nothing to do with Disney itself.

I was wrong. He's greeting children inside the park, because he's a Disney employee, permitted to dress up as a gruesome parody of a woman and horrify children.

The "Bibbidie Bobbidie Boutique" is where kids are invited in to look at $450 dresses so that they can pressure their parents to buy them.

Black Orchid says that's wrong:

no, it's a salon essentially. you make an appointment for your little one (I've done boys and girls!) to be turned into either a Prince or a Princess. they can bring their own costumes or buy one there, but they are SUPER expensive to buy there of course lol.
it takes hours and is a whole experience. and btw a wonderful one I paid out the behind for for my kids and it WAS a fantastic memory. oh and there were male stylists BUT THEY WERE DRESSED AS PRINCES (or courtiers or whatever)

Story:

Conservative critics are once again slamming Disney for shoving "woke" agendas down the throats of children -- this time by allowing an apparently male employee to wear a costume dress and makeup.
A viral video -- which has racked up nearly 7 million views on TikTok -- shows the mustachioed "Fairy Godmother's Apprentice" welcoming a young girl at Disneyland's Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique in Anaheim, California.
"So, my name is Nick, I am one of the Fairy Godmother's Apprentices," said the employee, who's seen wearing blue and purple eyeshadow to match their uniform dress.
"I'm here to shop you around and make all your selections for the day."
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"A man in drag is not only bizarre and inappropriate but it takes guests out of the 'show' -- the illusion is broken. Nothing matters but the agenda and your 4 yo is a pawn they are happy to mindflay," said conservative writer Peachy Keenan.

Disney encouraged just this grisly spectacle last year, when they changed the title of the workers at the boutique from "Fairy Godmothers In Training" -- which suggests the workers should be women -- to "Fairy Godmother's Apprentices."

Disney wanted transgenders grooming your kids. They proudly announced they were making the title "gender-neutral" to invite men to serve as dress-shills for little girls.

Walt Disney's Pixar Animation Studios has cut 75 jobs, including two executives behind Lightyear, a woke revisionist take on a beloved Toy Story character that ended up being a box-office failure.
Sources told Reuters of the job cuts on Saturday, which mark the first major job eliminations at the legendary studio in ten years.
Lightyear director Angus MacLane had worked at Pixar as an animator for 26 years. He was part of the senior creative team on films like Toy Story 4 and Coco. Lightyear producer Galyn Susman had been at Pixar since the release of the original Toy Story film in 1995, according to Reuters' sources.
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The job cuts took place on May 23 and are reportedly part of Walt Disney Chief Executive Bob Iger's plan to scrap 7,000 positions and slash $5.5 billion in costs.
Lightyear was released during Pride Month last year, and the animated feature, which cost $200 million to make, bombed at the box office all over the world.
The film reportedly brought in a mere $226.7 million in worldwide ticket sales -- a horrible outcome, given that in 2018, Pixar's The Incredibles 2 raked in $1.2 billion worldwide with an equivalent production budget.

Someone mentioned on one of the right-leaning entertainment news channels that Pixar and Disney animation employees were angered and alarmed that Bob Iger keeps praising Apple. Because Apple just began its own animation studio, under former Pixar head John Lassiter, that will be the direct competitor to Disney's two failing animation studios. And will probably result in additional layoffs at Disney.

So why does Iger keep praising the enemy?, they wonder.

Maybe because he's considering selling off major parts of Disney.

So here's the scuttlebutt about Disney possibly selling Lucasfilm.

Doomcock -- who I'm calling Doomcocktease for all the times he's reported Kathleen Kennedy's imminent firing -- heard of a meeting Bob Iger had with executives to game out what a sale of Lucasfilm would look like. Kamran Pasha, who has a confirmed Disney employee codenamed "sparrow" feeding him tips, heard the same thing, so this is more solid than the usual rumor. (Although still just unconfirmed rumor at this point.)

This is being forced by the upcoming Hulu buyout. Hulu was started as a three-way joint operation by Twentieth Century Fox, Disney, and Comcast. Comcast had a contractual guarantee that in early 2024 (January, I think), they can offer their share up to the other two partners, who are then contractually obligated to buy them out at "fair market" value.

When Disney bought Twentieth Century Fox, it acquired Fox's share of Hulu. And they are now the sole company that has to make good on Comcast's forced buyout.

How much is Comcast owed in this buyout? Well, many in the media report that Hulu is worth $28 billion, so that Disney would have to pay Comcast around $9 ~~million~~ billion for their share.

But I think that number comes from Disney people, who are trying to keep the price down. During the height of the streaming wars, the Wall Street Journal valued Hulu at 70 billion, which would make the payment to Comcast around $28 billion.

Hulu can't be worth what it was at the height of the streaming wars, before everyone started losing piles of money and realized they may never make a profit. But it may be worth much, much more than the $28 billion being floated.

Like I said, I think that is Disney working its typical corporate magic on the shill media, trying to keep their costs down.

Doomcock has reported -- I have no idea if this is true -- that Disney only has $200 million in liquid cash on hand. Even if they have a lot more than that, they obviously do not have the $9-28 billion dollars to pay off Comcast.

So that's why they're considering -- according to Doomcock and Kamran Pasha -- selling off LucasFilm. They just need money. A lot of money. They're even considering, supposedly, selling off some of the outside-the-US Disney theme parks.

And I bet they're strongly considering selling off one of their two failing animation studios. Pixar's name might still be worth a few pennies to someone, despite Disney destroying all of its brand value. (As they've also destroyed the brand value of Lucasfilm and Marvel.)

Kamran Pasha's source said that based on what he knows of this discussion of the sale of Lucasfilm, it seems that the buyer is a specific party who expressed interest. In other words, this is not hypothetical; someone is asking to buy it. And they say that it's a single person talking about buying it.

That would likely be George Lucas, because who else would have any interest in owning the rubble and noxious fumes of what's left of Lucasfilm?

One imagines he would pay a lot less for it than the $4.05 billion Disney paid him for it.

Is Iger talking up Apple because he's considering selling Pixar to them, so that Lassiter can head up the studio he used to make so much money with? No idea; that is pure speculation.

Below, video of the Drag Queen Fairy Godmother, and the Doomcock video.

Peachy Keenan
@KeenanPeachy
This salon, which I have used several times, is for little girls ages 4-10. It is a delight from start to finish, and one of the cutest things to watch. A true "Disney magic" immersive experience - one of the very few left at the park.
A man in drag is not only bizarre and inappropriate but it takes guests out of the "show" - the illusion is broken.
Nothing matters but the agenda and your 4 yo is a pawn they are happy to mindflay.

Controversy has erupted over @Disneyland’s use of a drag queen at a princess dress boutique at its California theme park. pic.twitter.com/Wsk2rfoXtM
— Andy Ngô 🏳️‍🌈 (@MrAndyNgo) May 30, 2023

Posted by: Ace at 04:50 PM

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1 First and centered.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 08, 2023 04:50 PM (ncXxy)

2 And it would have been worth a $hit ton of $$$ if they hadn't fvcked everything up with Star Wars.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 08, 2023 04:50 PM (ncXxy)

3 Well, they got the fairy part right.

Posted by: fd at June 08, 2023 04:51 PM (iayUP)

4 Burn it down. Salt the earth.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 08, 2023 04:51 PM (N1DT3)

5 Doomcock is the Jim Cramer of Star Wars YouTubers.

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 08, 2023 04:52 PM (xPl2J)

6 For the record it is hard to get little girls to play with what's under your dress until you normalize to little girls that it is perfectly normal for a man in a dress to spend time with little girls.

H8ters!

Posted by: The man in the disney dress store at June 08, 2023 04:52 PM (lc5cP)

7 Rookie mistake. I actually read this book report.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 08, 2023 04:52 PM (ppBhU)

8 Disney is pure evil.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 08, 2023 04:53 PM (lf83v)

9 2013: What does gay marriage have to do with you anyway h8ter?

2023: Why wouldn't we have a genderfluid individual in a dress taking your daughter by the hand?

2033: Old enough to count...

Posted by: Disney at June 08, 2023 04:54 PM (lc5cP)

10 Musk should buy Star Wars. Make it righteous.

Posted by: fd at June 08, 2023 04:54 PM (iayUP)

11 My BIL went to Disneyland a couple of months ago with his new wife and her kids. He bought himself a $200 custom light saber. Did I mention he's 47 and has never bothered to travel to see his 3 year old grandson?

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 08, 2023 04:55 PM (DRSnL)

12 But...but...but....DeSantis Started it!

The big meany!

(Well, that's what the nomenklatura on Linked In News thinks)

One wonders why George Lucas would be interested, at his age, in buying back LucasFilms.

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at June 08, 2023 04:55 PM (vcOmj)

13 It wasn't tranny grooming, it was a Star Wars crossover!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 08, 2023 04:55 PM (5EnGD)

14 ""So, my name is Nick, I am one of the Fairy Godmother's Apprentices," said the employee"

I can ~hear~ the effeminate tone he's speaking in, just by reading his words.

If they were going to have a man in drag as "Fairy Godmother's Apprentice", they should have made his character resentful and put upon, i.e.

"Welcome to the Boutiques, dresses are over there, no, I don't want to be in a dress, but that's the only uniform the Fairy Godmothers had."

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 08, 2023 04:55 PM (ou9hh)

15 Steve Jobs was the largest shareholder of Disney after he sold Pixar to them. Apple and Disney have vaguely related DNA, in other words.

Plus, Apple could buy Disney with petty cash. Not too many companies could do that. Makes sense if Disney is in serious trouble for them to be making kissy faces towards Apple.

This past week Apple demoed their next big thing, the Vision Pro, using Disney movies as an example. Perhaps Disney's CEO is trying to make sure he gets on the ground floor, rather than some other studio?

Posted by: GanGanowicz at June 08, 2023 04:55 PM (oUGcm)

16 "Kamran Pasha's source said that based on what he knows of this discussion of the sale of Lucasfilm, it seems that the buyer is a specific party who expressed interest. In other words, this is not hypothetical; someone is asking to buy it. And they say that it's a single person talking about buying it.

That would likely be George Lucas, because who else would have any interest in owning the rubble and noxious fumes of what's left of Lucasfilm?

One imagines he would pay a lot less for it than the $4.05 billion Disney paid him for it."

I'm not sure the oligarchy can afford to give that kind of victory to the masses, or at all confident that Lucas has his fastball storytelling wise.

But the Star Wars license prints money, at least in the right hands, so who's to say? Even Ben Shapiro would do a better job.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 04:55 PM (ZyRtd)

17 "Well, many in the media report that Hulu is worth $28 billion, so that Disney would have to pay Comcast around $9 million for their share.

But I think that number comes from Disney people, who are trying to keep the price down. During the height of the streaming wars, the Wall Street Journal valued Hulu at 70 billion, which would make the payment to Comcast around $28 million."

A million here, a million there, and suddenly you're talking about real billions.

Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at June 08, 2023 04:56 PM (M9BuQ)

18 My BIL went to Disneyland a couple of months ago with his new wife and her kids. He bought himself a $200 custom light saber. Did I mention he's 47 and has never bothered to travel to see his 3 year old grandson?
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 08, 2023 04:55 PM (DRSnL)
_________________

Disneyland appeals to children of all ages!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2023 04:56 PM (YqDXo)

19 >>>10 Musk should buy Star Wars. Make it righteous.

No one should buy Star Wars. It's now a c-list brand. It's less valuable than DC Comics, which itself is a very damaged brand.

there is no coming back for Star Wars.

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 04:56 PM (KRtlO)

20 The "Bibbidie Bobbidie Boutique" is where kids are invited in to look at $450 dresses so that they can pressure their parents to buy them.

no, it's a salon essentially. you make an appointment for your little one (I've done boys and girls!) to be turned into either a Prince or a Princess. they can bring their own costumes or buy one there, but they are SUPER expensive to buy there of course lol.

it takes hours and is a whole experience. and btw a wonderful one I paid out the behind for for my kids and it WAS a fantastic memory. oh and there were male stylists BUT THEY WERE DRESSED AS PRINCES (or courtiers or whatever)

this - THING - is a travesty. SICK

omg if I had seen that guy at the entrance after reserving a spot for hundreds of dollars there would have been one very-Bobbitty drag queen in the Bibbity Bobbity Boutique

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2023 04:56 PM (w0NJk)

21 Imagine if George Lucas bought back Lucasfilm for, say, $400 million (IIRC, a tenth of what Disney paid him for it).

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 08, 2023 04:56 PM (Ph+gC)

22 Disney has been known for gouging greed and treating people horrible forever. They would go after small businesses for a picture of a Disney character in an ad, they would bust artists for painting a Disney character. They grossly overcharge in Disneyland for everything. Its an evil corporation that is finally facing consequences for their behavior.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:56 PM (0hOvj)

23 Hope it's a total boycott

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2023 04:56 PM (xhxe8)

24 People who take their children to Disneyworld should be charged with child abuse.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 08, 2023 04:57 PM (lf83v)

25 I can ~hear~ the effeminate tone he's speaking in, just by reading his words.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 08, 2023 04:55 PM

And the uptalking.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2023 04:57 PM (Wnv9h)

26 Musk should buy Star Wars. Make it righteous.
Posted by: fd

If he owned the copyrights, he could rename a big new starship rocket the Deathstar.

How much fun could he have with that?

Maybe Bezos should buy it, and then he could IMAGINE that he was getting into space.

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at June 08, 2023 04:57 PM (vcOmj)

27 In before Paul embarrasses himself with his corporate-financials innumeracy again.

Posted by: spindrift at June 08, 2023 04:57 PM (ivvNA)

28 Conservative critics are once again slamming Disney for shoving "woke" agendas down the throats of children ...

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Pouncing, and seizing, and slamming ... oh my!

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 08, 2023 04:57 PM (vtaS3)

29 "And the uptalking."

Yes!

Ugh.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 08, 2023 04:58 PM (ou9hh)

30 Bonk bonk on the head

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 08, 2023 04:58 PM (1/VGO)

31 there is no coming back for Star Wars.

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 04:56 PM (KRtlO)

As long as Disney owns it, yeah. Right now a small but extremely dedicated group are running a free Star Wars MMO all on their own dime. The brand is potent: in the right hands.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 04:58 PM (ZyRtd)

32 again, the idea of people getting a bunch of Hulu subscriptions ...?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2023 04:58 PM (w0NJk)

33 And it would have been worth a $hit ton of $$$ if they hadn't fvcked everything up with Star Wars.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 08, 2023 04:50 PM (ncXxy)
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Yep. Lucasfilm should have been a license to print money from now until the end of time. You had one of the largest Expanded Universes ever created from which to draw inspiration. A talented creative team could have easily integrated a new story involving Luke, Han, and Leia into an updated EU, maybe telling the "true" story behind some of the EU's legendary feats.

But no, they couldn't be bothered...and here we are.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 08, 2023 04:58 PM (YIVH2)

34 Conservative critics are once again slamming Disney for shoving "woke" agendas down the throats of children ...

Today agendas tomorrow coc...uh...other things.

Actually, wait, that was yesterday!

Posted by: Some Disney Producer at June 08, 2023 04:58 PM (lc5cP)

35 Pouncing, and seizing, and slamming ... oh my!
Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 08, 2023 04:57 PM

It's after Memorial Day. It's allowed.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2023 04:58 PM (Wnv9h)

36 which would make the payment to Comcast around $28 million.

Say Ace,

Shouldn't this 'milllion' also be 'billion'?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 08, 2023 04:59 PM (ZSK0i)

37 >>>21 Imagine if George Lucas bought back Lucasfilm for, say, $400 million (IIRC, a tenth of what Disney paid him for it).

I mean, that is about what it is worth. Maybe $500 million.

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 04:59 PM (KRtlO)

38 Blackrock will bail them out call it an investment that didn't pan out.

Posted by: mikethemoose at June 08, 2023 04:59 PM (qDLv4)

39 The Fairy Godmother in Cinderella is female-D'oh
I would think being greeted by a mustached man in a dress would be more than weird to kids and their parents, and were she alive-the voice over actress Verna Felton (1890-1966) who did the voice of the Fairy Godmother would be horrified.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 08, 2023 04:59 PM (Keyt1)

40 >>Shouldn't this 'milllion' also be 'billion'?

yes I fixed it, thanks to someone snarking at me

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 04:59 PM (KRtlO)

41 Surely this is DeSantis' fault, because *everything* to do with Disney is DeSantis' fault.

Let me help for the future.
Disney encouraged just this grisly spectacle last year, when they changed the title of the workers at the boutique from "Fairy Godmothers In Training" -- which suggests the workers should be women -- to "Fairy Godmother's Apprentices."

This is no good at all, Ace. You're *never* going to get into the Shill Media writing like this. This would be much better to prove your shill bona fides:
Disney, which is embroiled in controversy and legal battles due to the Florida government's anti-Disney actions under governor Ron DeSantis, changed the title of the workers at the boutique from "Fairy Godmothers in Training" to "Fairy Godmother's Apprentices" in an effort to improve inclusion and belonging for girls of all types.

You're on your way to Big Shill Money the moment you want to be...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 04:59 PM (DU+/6)

42 Conservatives pounce.

Posted by: Montec at June 08, 2023 04:59 PM (vYizA)

43 omg if I had seen that guy at the entrance after reserving a spot for hundreds of dollars there would have been one very-Bobbitty drag queen in the Bibbity Bobbity Boutique
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2023 04:56 PM (w0NJk)

It took two reads for me to get this. Send him to the Boo-Bootique (the hospital).

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 05:00 PM (ZyRtd)

44 Maybe Bezos should buy it, and then he could IMAGINE that he was getting into space.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at June 08, 2023 04:57 PM (vcOmj)
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Bezos fucked up Lord of the Rings, yet another IP that should have been a license to print money from now until the end of time in the hands of a creative team allowed to do so.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 08, 2023 05:00 PM (YIVH2)

45 and were she alive-the voice over actress Verna Felton (1890-1966) who did the voice of the Fairy Godmother would be horrified.

Show this to anyone 20 years ago and they'd be asking why the perv in a dress wasn't arrested.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 08, 2023 05:00 PM (lc5cP)

46 In good Disney news, their next 2 theatrical movies could make Mars Needs Moms and Lone Ranger look way better financially by comparison...

AKA - Elemental and Indy 5 are looking catastrophic for Disney, especially the latter movie.

Make a movie for 40+ aged males after you've told them all to pound sand was not their best plan...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 08, 2023 05:00 PM (exHjb)

47 37: of course, there is the caveat “Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.”

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 08, 2023 05:00 PM (Ph+gC)

48 >>>32 again, the idea of people getting a bunch of Hulu subscriptions ...?

I don't know if that would work. Still waiting to hear.

Some judge will determine the "fair market value" later this year or in early 2024. Presumably the number of subscribers would factor into that. Unless they hear that conservatives are deliberately driving the subscriber numbers up, of course!

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:00 PM (KRtlO)

49 I only read Ace's comments for the snark.

Posted by: Zombie Breitbart at June 08, 2023 05:00 PM (M9BuQ)

50 No one should buy Star Wars. It's now a c-list brand. It's less valuable than DC Comics, which itself is a very damaged brand.

there is no coming back for Star Wars.

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 04:56 PM (KRtlO)

Give me the reins and I'd turn it into a $4 billion venture overnight.

"Yeah, all that stuff that's happened in the last 20 years? Not canon.

Extended universe? Yeah. That's actually canon."

Stories already written that can be turned into movies.

The fans would flock back.

But the left would lose, so they'd never allow someone like me to take it over.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 08, 2023 05:00 PM (N1DT3)

51 No one should buy Star Wars. It's now a c-list brand. It's less valuable than DC Comics, which itself is a very damaged brand.
there is no coming back for Star Wars.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 04:56 PM (KRtlO)

I think they are in the deconstruction period, and will then go into the parody phase before being cast aside.
I bet if they could go back to the Timothy Zahn books they could reinvent themselves and turn it all around.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 05:00 PM (xhaym)

52 there is no coming back for Star Wars.

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 04:56 PM (KRtlO)
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I think you're probably right. I can't be the only one who says, "Oh, FFS!" every time they release another Star Wars movie. Or, more likely, allow it to escape.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2023 05:01 PM (YqDXo)

53 Lucas is dreadful. He can wreck SW just as easily as Disney.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at June 08, 2023 05:01 PM (Eeb9P)

54 Maybe we could send Zelenskyy more money and he could buy LucasFilms?

Posted by: Peaches at June 08, 2023 05:01 PM (14URa)

55 Afternoon.

As far as I know when Lucas sold LucasFilm he was sick and tired of it. Sick and tired of the studio and Star Wars and everything. So he sold.

I doubt Lucas is interested in buying it back.

Posted by: Robert at June 08, 2023 05:01 PM (Z45yo)

56 Oh good Joe Mannix is here.

After that.... thing... that Disney has hired, I think we need some good old fashioned girls who look nice to clear the brain.

Posted by: GanGanowicz at June 08, 2023 05:01 PM (oUGcm)

57 I bet if they could go back to the Timothy Zahn books they could reinvent themselves and turn it all around.

agree totally those were awesome

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2023 05:01 PM (w0NJk)

58 >>>54 Maybe we could send Zelenskyy more money and he could buy LucasFilms?

he's the only one who could bring the magic back!!!!

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:01 PM (KRtlO)

59 Nick's even got the pedo-stache. Open secret indeed.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2023 05:02 PM (V1QHJ)

60 Whoever buys Star Wars should declare Disney Ep 7, 8 and 9 noncannon and do them over.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 08, 2023 05:02 PM (U8FVn)

61 No one should buy Star Wars. It's now a c-list brand. It's less valuable than DC Comics, which itself is a very damaged brand.
there is no coming back for Star Wars.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 04:56 PM (KRtlO)
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George Lucas might. He can get it back for half price (maybe less), pretend the Disney Era never happened, let it cool off for a couple of years, and start his new trilogy before he dies.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 05:02 PM (DU+/6)

62 So here's the scuttlebutt about Disney possibly selling Lucasfilm.

Have you heard the scuttlebutt?
https://youtu.be/N4ovRhX8XIM

Posted by: Awkwafina Scuttlebutt Song at June 08, 2023 05:02 PM (NCgXW)

63 yes I fixed it, thanks to someone snarking at me
Posted by: ace

As the Master of Mean, this should be encouraging that your followers want to be just like you!

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at June 08, 2023 05:02 PM (vcOmj)

64 yes I fixed it, thanks to someone snarking at me
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 04:59 PM (KRtlO)

[delicate cough]

That one still says million

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 08, 2023 05:02 PM (ZSK0i)

65 No one should buy Star Wars.

I can see that one could make a profit with the franchise but it would take a good 10 years of putting out quality, entertaining product.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:02 PM (0hOvj)

66 >>>I bet if they could go back to the Timothy Zahn books they could reinvent themselves and turn it all around.

they are supposedly doing that as a movie, but without the original characters. I think Asokah (?) will be the star. Girl power, yay. It will be set later in the timeline.

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:03 PM (KRtlO)

67 AKA - Elemental and Indy 5 are looking catastrophic for Disney, especially the latter movie.

Posted by: Nova Local at June 08, 2023 05:00 PM (exHjb)

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My 40-something female cow-orkers are super excited for Indy 5. Yes, they're stupid.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 08, 2023 05:03 PM (DRSnL)

68 WDW stopped selling new Annual Passes a couple years ago. Ppl were begging for their return, but Disney hates the AP folks bc they think they aren’t profitable (no wasting money on souvenirs or other crap, while impacting the line-length for attractions.) Suddenly, APs appeared again a few weeks ago. And, they are expensive, but fans are clamoring to buy. Money infusion for a cash-poor company?

Posted by: EveR at June 08, 2023 05:03 PM (MUpk6)

69 We're living in the Twilight Zone.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 08, 2023 05:03 PM (NpAcC)

70 Maybe Disney is so hard up for workers they have to hire men to be fairy godmothers. It could be they just couldn't find anybody else.

Posted by: fd at June 08, 2023 05:04 PM (iayUP)

71 Musk should buy Star Wars. Make it righteous.

No one should buy Star Wars. It's now a c-list brand. It's less valuable than DC Comics, which itself is a very damaged brand.

there is no coming back for Star Wars.

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 04:56 PM (KRtlO)

Elon would be the only one who would do what is needed - sack 90+ percent of the admin and woke dross and go back to basics with the rest. Anything less and you have a small disaster on your hands instead of theirs.

But in terms of SW movies ace is right here - you'd have to avoid big splashy movies and build small stories well outside of the known areas and times to build your brand back.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 05:04 PM (eoQWY)

72 >>>That one still says million

oh okay, thanks, I think I now fixed that one too

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:04 PM (KRtlO)

73 Bloody fairies.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 08, 2023 05:04 PM (DTX3h)

74 Oh good Joe Mannix is here.

After that.... thing... that Disney has hired, I think we need some good old fashioned girls who look nice to clear the brain.
Posted by: GanGanowicz at June 08, 2023 05:01 PM (oUGcm)
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I actually have to run, so this will be earlier than usual in the thread. Blame this guy, not me.

This busty, lewdly-posed brunette in clothes at least one size too small would never enter a dress shop employing a mustachioed man in an ill-fitting lady's garment:
https://is.gd/stpUUF

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 05:04 PM (DU+/6)

75 they are supposedly doing that as a movie, but without the original characters. I think Asokah (?) will be the star. Girl power, yay. It will be set later in the timeline.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:03 PM (KRtlO)

Can you blame them? I don't doubt Disney would want a level of control that the old guard would not be interested in, even for bankster level money. It's partly why the newest trilogy was as much a remake as a sequel.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 05:04 PM (ZyRtd)

76 My first trip to Disney was in 1966. It was fascinating, but even then I could see some of the attraction were just junk. Cheap, poorly made and it definitely took me "out of the show." The submarine ride was hokey, and yoiu could see the rust on the screws and wires holding the styrofoam fish in place. I guess this was before they started making major upgrades. Some of it was great. But...naaaa.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 08, 2023 05:04 PM (e4fEA)

77 That picture looks like Nick from Accounting stepped in to help on a short staff day 😂

Posted by: AmyRey at June 08, 2023 05:05 PM (K4FOQ)

78 65: concur.

Can Star Wars be resurrected? Sure. But it would mean doing exactly what you said.

As for me, when I left the theater in absolute disgust in December 2017, I knew I was done with Star Wars. Maybe that changes if the right things happen. Til then…

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 08, 2023 05:05 PM (Ph+gC)

79 Glad I was able to go to Disneyland as a kid in the 60's. Haven't been back since.

Posted by: Infidel at June 08, 2023 05:05 PM (kHtnd)

80 Would Lucas be any less works with Star Wars?

Oh and also I will never get the Star Wars thing. It’s a 50 year old move for kids. Why 60 year old men still are obsessed with it is one of life’s great mysteries.

Posted by: Montec at June 08, 2023 05:05 PM (vYizA)

81 >>>AKA - Elemental and Indy 5 are looking catastrophic for Disney, especially the latter movie.

yup

actually Elemental is tracking for a 40 mil opening, which is pretty catastrophic.

Indy 5 has to make $800 million just to break even, which it will not do. Projections put it at about the same $790 million that Indiana Jones 4 made 15 years ago.

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:05 PM (KRtlO)

82 UNPOSSIBLE!!!

I have been assured by the most financial of trolls that Didley Corpse is swimming in $17 billion of cash on hand.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 08, 2023 05:05 PM (17s+e)

83 I fly my PRIDE FLAG everyday !!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is called " Old Glory" and "The Stars and Stripes" !!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (LrYuZ)

84 George Lucas might. He can get it back for half price (maybe less), pretend the Disney Era never happened, let it cool off for a couple of years, and start his new trilogy before he dies.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 05:02 PM (DU+/6)

Much of his own era was hardly stellar. I doubt he has the energy to do the work to save it.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (eoQWY)

85 >>>Can Star Wars be resurrected? Sure. But it would mean doing exactly what you said.

how many times can you tell the exact same story?

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (KRtlO)

86 That picture looks like Nick from Accounting stepped in to help on a short staff day 😂
Posted by: AmyRey at June 08, 2023 05:05 PM (K4FOQ)

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I was thinking the same thing.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (DRSnL)

87 That would likely be George Lucas, because who else would have any interest in owning the rubble and noxious fumes of what's left of Lucasfilm?

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ChatGPT.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (vtaS3)

88 > I think you're probably right. I can't be the only one who says, "Oh, FFS!" every time they release another Star Wars movie. Or, more likely, allow it to escape.

I was extremely disappointed by the prequels, but I still watched Rogue One and Last Jedi. After that, I was done. I have zero desire to watch any new Star Wars movies.

Star Wars was a big part of my childhood. I watched all of them many times. Disney killed it for me. I don't even have desire to watch the original trilogy anymore.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (V1QHJ)

89 This busty, lewdly-posed brunette in clothes at least one size too small would never enter a dress shop employing a mustachioed man in an ill-fitting lady's garment:
https://is.gd/stpUUF
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 05:04 PM (DU+/6)

Heh. Sexy Velma cosplay.

Posted by: Robert at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (Z45yo)

90 "kids are invited in to look at $450 dresses so that they can pressure their parents to buy them."

There are so very many marvelous destinations in the USA, taking kids to amusement parks is a tragic failure of parental imagination.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (MvF+J)

91 I went do Disneyworld the first time when I was 12. I was, eh it’s ok but fuck it’s hot and crowded. Can we go back to the beach please mon and dad? But my younger sister was in heaven so we spent two full days there.

Posted by: Montec at June 08, 2023 05:07 PM (vYizA)

92 This busty, lewdly-posed brunette in clothes at least one size too small would never enter a dress shop employing a mustachioed man in an ill-fitting lady's garment:
https://is.gd/stpUUF
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
______

Velma!?!?

Posted by: Shaggy at June 08, 2023 05:07 PM (fs1hN)

93 This busty, lewdly-posed brunette in clothes at least one size too small would never enter a dress shop employing a mustachioed man in an ill-fitting lady's garment:
https://is.gd/stpUUF
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 05:04 PM (DU+/6)

Well, I'd like to... types... deletes... her shop!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 08, 2023 05:07 PM (ZSK0i)

94 how many times can you tell the exact same story?

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (KRtlO)

Psst. There's only seven stories, Ace.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 08, 2023 05:08 PM (Angsy)

95 I spent part of my childhood in Tustin, which is close to Disneyland. We used to go a lot when I was a kid (back when you bought books of tickets). The last time we went was about 25 years ago. Stupid expensive, and it looked like the rides hadn't had any maintenance in like 10 years. I'd rather go to Knott's.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 08, 2023 05:08 PM (DRSnL)

96 how many times can you tell the exact same story?
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (KRtlO)

According to Joseph Campbell . . . .

EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!

Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 05:09 PM (xhaym)

97 That picture looks like Nick from Accounting stepped in to help on a short staff day 😂
Posted by: AmyRey at June 08, 2023 05:05 PM

Now I'm picturing Gru as the Fairy Gruzinkerbell.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2023 05:09 PM (Wnv9h)

98 Glad I was able to go to Disneyland as a kid in the 60's. Haven't been back since.
Posted by: Infidel at June 08, 2023 05:05 PM (kHtnd)

I was a '70s Disney kid. Still unspoiled at that point and it's a damned shame what's happened to Disney since then.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 08, 2023 05:09 PM (ZSK0i)

99 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 05:04 PM (DU+/6)

Hit the button of the barrel at AcidCow pictures (?), because while you do have some pictures of very attractive women in skimpy clothing, that pose is hideous, her clothes are awful and the angle is just weird. Why anyone would want that photo submitted is beyond my comprehension.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 08, 2023 05:09 PM (Keyt1)

100 > That would likely be George Lucas, because who else would have any interest in owning the rubble and noxious fumes of what's left of Lucasfilm?

I think the first couple of Mandalorian seasons proved people still have room for SW if it's done by someone who understands and loves the material.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2023 05:09 PM (V1QHJ)

101 Disney has $ 200M working capital, CA-CL, of course they have other liquid assets and can borrow, but what rate do they want to pay?
lucasfilm, Pixar, Marvel all broken, staffed with woke Iger drones- whose mission is wokeness.

Posted by: standfast24 at June 08, 2023 05:09 PM (iSh76)

102 >>>Because Apple just began its own animation studio, under former Pixar head John Lassiter

Is Lassiter the guy that Disney fired over me too bullshit?

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 08, 2023 05:09 PM (xPl2J)

103 how many times can you tell the exact same story?
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (KRtlO)

Despite the despicably stupid sequel trilogy, The Old Republic setting had great characters and great plots. The Jedi Survivor game is apparently tight. I don't think Bioware or Obsidian/ Bethesda even have the magic to make it happen for Disney now... but someone will.

Posted by: trev006 at June 08, 2023 05:10 PM (ZyRtd)

104 drought has caused the Canadian wildfires

Posted by: REDACTED at June 08, 2023 05:10 PM (us2H3)

105 >>>Is Lassiter the guy that Disney fired over me too bullshit?

yes

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:10 PM (KRtlO)

106 https://is.gd/stpUUF
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
........

I think she wants me to stare at her crotch or something.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 05:10 PM (v0R5T)

107 Well. That's just fucking disgusting. But we've seen far worse. And that's even more fucking disgusting still.

Posted by: Excuse me while I projectile vomit at June 08, 2023 05:10 PM (AiuQB)

108 how many times can you tell the exact same story?
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (KRtlO)

At least ten, given the amount of Fast and Furious films?

Posted by: Thrawn at June 08, 2023 05:11 PM (Rl7KJ)

109 hiya

Posted by: JT at June 08, 2023 05:11 PM (T4tVD)

110 Anyone that gives Disney money for the privilege of going to WDW to stand in lines for hours and spend exorbitant amounts of money for food, drinks, an souvenirs in the hot Florida sun should be institutionalized.

I did the math and a trip for my family of four to Fiji would be cheaper, more fun, and far more culturally enriching.

Posted by: ballistic at June 08, 2023 05:11 PM (oXNqT)

111 i would fuck that disney chick with the mustache so hard that my hip would explode

Posted by: joe fingerblaster at June 08, 2023 05:11 PM (SWHSV)

112 85: How many times can you tell the exact same story? I don’t know, ask the brain trusts behind Terminator.

(There are ONLY two Terminator movies.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 08, 2023 05:11 PM (Ph+gC)

113 108 how many times can you tell the exact same story?
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (KRtlO)

At least ten, given the amount of Fast and Furious films?
Posted by: Thrawn at June 08, 2023 05:11 PM (Rl7KJ)

—-

Hi.
- Friday the Thirteenth Series

Posted by: Montec at June 08, 2023 05:11 PM (vYizA)

114 I care as much about Disney as I do Ukraine.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 05:11 PM (v0R5T)

115 "how many times can you tell the exact same story?"

Chop the story up into 20 scenes, edit the scenes into every possible anachronistic sequence. You get ... some factorial function of 20 ... number of stories. A bunch.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at June 08, 2023 05:11 PM (MvF+J)

116 Lucas is dreadful. He can wreck SW just as easily as Disney.

I agree, he did a lot of damage to the brand with the prequels. But he's a great idea guy, so I'd keep him around for that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:11 PM (0hOvj)

117 Doomcock is useless. Well intentioned, maybe- but wrong.

Does Kathleen Kennedy still have her job?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 08, 2023 05:12 PM (/xaUq)

118 Would George Lucas buy back his old property from the "white slavers" that he sold it to in the first place?

Posted by: Thrawn at June 08, 2023 05:12 PM (Rl7KJ)

119 how many times can you tell the exact same story?
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (KRtlO)
.........

Depends how drunk I get.

Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 05:12 PM (v0R5T)

120 Why anyone would want that photo submitted is beyond my comprehension.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 08, 2023 05:09 PM (Keyt1)

I think she wants me to stare at her crotch or something.
Posted by: wth at June 08, 2023 05:10 PM (v0R5T)

Questions asked, questions answered.

Posted by: Robert at June 08, 2023 05:13 PM (Z45yo)

121 110 Anyone that gives Disney money for the privilege of going to WDW to stand in lines for hours and spend exorbitant amounts of money for food, drinks, an souvenirs in the hot Florida sun should be institutionalized.

The queer in a dress was in Disneyland in Anaheim, CA but your point is still valid.

Posted by: Still more projectile vomit at June 08, 2023 05:13 PM (AiuQB)

122 Does Lileks still overwinter at Disney World? He used to worship the place.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at June 08, 2023 05:13 PM (MvF+J)

123 On the guy dressed as a chick, Disney may not have had a choice in the matter. (Stand by for a To Be Fair observation.) I don't know what Florida's employment laws are like, but I do know California's only too well.

Here in CA, if your fat hairy ugly male employee wants to come in wearing a dress, lipstick, fishnets and high heels, you'd better keep your mouth shut about it. (And no eyerolls!) You're unlawfully discriminating against him if you require him to look like a presentable version of his biological sex when he comes into work.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2023 05:14 PM (guGkK)

124 119 how many times can you tell the exact same story?
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (KRtlO)

ikr?

Posted by: Bill S. from Avon at June 08, 2023 05:14 PM (14URa)

125 I agree, he did a lot of damage to the brand with the prequels. But he's a great idea guy, so I'd keep him around for that.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:11 PM (0hOvj)
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I think what made the Star Wars EU so successful is that Lucasfilm gave their creators a lot of flexibility, but also had a lot of oversight over the product, so that things didn't get *too* out of hand. Granted, some of the stories are just godawful *cough*Children of the Jedi*cough* but the Zahn trilogy is considered to be excellent by most fans, and there are other highs and lows along the way.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 08, 2023 05:14 PM (YIVH2)

126 89 This busty, lewdly-posed brunette in clothes at least one size too small would never enter a dress shop employing a mustachioed man in an ill-fitting lady's garment:
https://is.gd/stpUUF
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 05:04 PM (DU+/6)

Heh. Sexy Velma cosplay.
Posted by: Robert at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (Z45yo)

Forsooth. Although Joe is playing close to the unwritten rule we linkers have.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 08, 2023 05:14 PM (/xaUq)

127 Is Trump still telling people not to boycott Disney because it's bad for business?

Posted by: Kukui at June 08, 2023 05:14 PM (3dm+3)

128
As a former little girl, I can tell you I would be scared and disappointed to go to a supposed Little Girl Dream Factory and be met not by a beautiful fairy tale lady who was going to make me look like a fairy tale girl, but by that nasty monster. "The Happiest Place On Earth" is there to destroy your fun and fatasy.

That is SO mean to kids.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2023 05:15 PM (lCaJd)

129 This busty, lewdly-posed brunette in clothes at least one size too small would never enter a dress shop employing a mustachioed man in an ill-fitting lady's garment:
https://is.gd/stpUUF
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 08, 2023 05:04 PM

Camel toe! Brace for impact......

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 08, 2023 05:15 PM (ncXxy)

130 Disney has $ 200M working capital, CA-CL, of course they have other liquid assets and can borrow, but what rate do they want to pay?
lucasfilm, Pixar, Marvel all broken, staffed with woke Iger drones- whose mission is wokeness.

Posted by: standfast24
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Yeppers. When I buy a house that has renters in it part of the contract is they must have vacated before escrow closes. Not my job to get them out, that's the sellers. I've had a couple deals go south because the renters wouldn't leave but no skin of my nose.

So who in their right state of financial and business mind would buy a company that stocked full of woke cretins that refuse to do as ordered?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 08, 2023 05:15 PM (17s+e)

131 Does Lileks still overwinter at Disney World? He used to worship the place.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at June 08, 2023 05:13 PM (MvF+J)

Gnat's a collige gradiate now. Not sure he still goes. Arizona however....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 08, 2023 05:15 PM (Angsy)

132 Lucas is dreadful. He can wreck SW just as easily as Disney.

I agree, he did a lot of damage to the brand with the prequels. But he's a great idea guy, so I'd keep him around for that.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:11 PM (0hOvj)

From the sequel trilogy as evidence and the limited scuttlebutt, a lot of the ideas/work/editing that saved the OT were his wife's, who had been divorced by the sequel time.

"It's like poetry, it rhymes"
-- George Lucas

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 05:15 PM (eoQWY)

133 Oops. I just now realized that Mr. Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Bo IS in California Disneyland, not WDW.

So blame our idiot legislature, not Disney.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2023 05:15 PM (guGkK)

134 As expensive as the Disney parks are, they’re not any more expensive than other destination activities. A day of skiing is $150-200 for the high end resorts. Top Golf courses can cost $300 a round. Decent seats to a pro sportsball game can easily be several hundred dollars per seat. Disney parks are in that same level of cost.

Posted by: Montec at June 08, 2023 05:16 PM (vYizA)

135 108 how many times can you tell the exact same story?
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (KRtlO)

At least ten, given the amount of Fast and Furious films?
Posted by: Thrawn at June 08, 2023 05:11 PM (Rl7KJ)
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Why is everyone looking at me?

Posted by: Sylvester Stallone at June 08, 2023 05:16 PM (YqDXo)

136 Work at Pixar for 26 years in animation but you f#ck one ...

Posted by: angus the kiddie f#cker at June 08, 2023 05:16 PM (Vwz3I)

137 I hope to see a day when every major US entertainment business has closed its doors for good. It's all pure poison.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 08, 2023 05:17 PM (oINRc)

138 134 As expensive as the Disney parks are, they’re not any more expensive than other destination activities. A day of skiing is $150-200 for the high end resorts. Top Golf courses can cost $300 a round. Decent seats to a pro sportsball game can easily be several hundred dollars per seat. Disney parks are in that same level of cost.
Posted by: Montec at June 08, 2023 05:16 PM (vYizA)

$6000 a night for Galactic Starcruiser.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 08, 2023 05:17 PM (/xaUq)

139 US Open next week

81 million votes, my ass

Posted by: REDACTED at June 08, 2023 05:17 PM (us2H3)

140
On the guy dressed as a chick, Disney may not have had a choice in the matter. (Stand by for a To Be Fair observation.) I don't know what Florida's employment laws are like, but I do know California's only too well.

Posted by: Cicero

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No. Disney makes and breaks laws at will. You'd be amazed at the amount of control they have over the city of Anaheim beyond their birm.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2023 05:17 PM (lCaJd)

141 Why is everyone looking at me?
Posted by: Sylvester Stallone at June 08, 2023 05:16 PM (YqDXo)

The First Expendables was pretty good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 08, 2023 05:17 PM (/xaUq)

142 Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 08, 2023 05:14 PM (/xaUq)

There are rulers for linkers here?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 08, 2023 05:17 PM (Keyt1)

143 134 As expensive as the Disney parks are, they’re not any more expensive than other destination activities. A day of skiing is $150-200 for the high end resorts. Top Golf courses can cost $300 a round. Decent seats to a pro sportsball game can easily be several hundred dollars per seat. Disney parks are in that same level of cost.
Posted by: Montec at June 08, 2023 05:16 PM (vYizA)

$6000 a night for Galactic Starcruiser.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 08, 2023 05:17 PM (/xaUq)

Speaking of dead things....RIP Starcruiser.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 05:18 PM (eoQWY)

144 They ought to make a live action Fairly Oddparents movie.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 08, 2023 05:18 PM (63Dwl)

145 "There are rulers for linkers here?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke "

NO TRANNYS!

Posted by: Rule #1 at June 08, 2023 05:18 PM (iayUP)

146 A man in drag is not only bizarre and inappropriate but it takes guests out of the "show" - the illusion is broken.
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This is an excellent point. People go to WDW to immerse themselves in the "Disney adventure."

When they see a man dressed up like a fairy godmother, they experience a cognitive dissonance. They can't process it. It's outside of their expectations of the "Disney adventure."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 08, 2023 05:18 PM (YIVH2)

147 Why is everyone looking at me?
Posted by: Sylvester Stallone at June 08, 2023 05:16 PM (YqDXo)

Rocky Versus Rambo pic, now!

Posted by: Robert at June 08, 2023 05:18 PM (Z45yo)

148 $6000 a night for Galactic Starcruiser.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 08, 2023 05:17 PM (/xaUq)
___________

Make that the "now defunct Galactic Starcruiser."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2023 05:19 PM (YqDXo)

149 >>>Can Star Wars be resurrected? Sure. But it would mean doing exactly what you said.

how many times can you tell the exact same story?

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:06 PM (KRtlO)

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I'd watch a version made by Kyle Dunnigan and company.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 08, 2023 05:19 PM (vtaS3)

150 Deadline is reporting that Indiana Jones 5 is going to open at $60 million. This is a complete disaster, worse than what happened with Little Mermaid and would seem to indicate that this movie generating close to a billion dollars in ticket sales is never going to happen. If I recall correctly, eager told Kennedy that unless this film generates a billion in ticket sales, she's gone.

Posted by: Lost In Space at June 08, 2023 05:19 PM (93HMG)

151 First Rocky, first Rambo, first Expendables are all good entertainment... the sequels not so much.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 08, 2023 05:21 PM (17s+e)

152 There are rulers for linkers here?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 08, 2023 05:17 PM (Keyt1)

I do at least.

1) No outright porn/nudity

2) 'Impressions' are a fine line because they can stray way too close to the NSFW line. Some nipples? Depends. No wet t-shirt. Camel toe is across the line.

3) The guiding principle: would your mom and grandma say your name and shake her head? Then you are good to go. Would she slap you? Close to or over the line.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 08, 2023 05:21 PM (/xaUq)

153 The idea that George Lucas would turn LucasFilm around is kind of silly. He was responsible for the prequels, essentially a shaggy dog story lasting about eight hours.

He's also responsible for Kathleen Kennedy.

(Has there ever been a good Kennedy?)

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 08, 2023 05:21 PM (CHHv1)

154 That would likely be George Lucas, because who else would have any interest in owning the rubble and noxious fumes of what's left of Lucasfilm?

elon musk?

Posted by: anachronda at June 08, 2023 05:21 PM (oY6Yp)

155 I hope to see a day when every major US entertainment business has closed its doors for good. It's all pure poison.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 08, 2023 05:17 PM (oINRc)
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Agreed. Also every MSM ~~orifice~~ outlet, and three-quarters of the universities (which should admit students strictly on the basis of SAT scores, winner take all).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2023 05:21 PM (YqDXo)

156 No. Disney makes and breaks laws at will. You'd be amazed at the amount of control they have over the city of Anaheim beyond their birm.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2023 05:17 PM (lCaJd)

Plaintiff's lawyers don't give a rat's ass (see what I did there?) about what Anaheim has to say. If Joe Mustache claims to be a woman and Disneyland won't give him an appropriate female role, it's lawsuit time.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2023 05:22 PM (guGkK)

157 >>>Deadline is reporting that Indiana Jones 5 is going to open at $60 million. This is a complete disaster,

you're kidding! I guess that's a new story?

Wow. And they're usually such reliable Disney shills.

Maybe they're trying to lowball projections. Disney loves lowballing projections so that they can then say, "Wow, we almost met these very low projections! What a victory for us!"

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:22 PM (KRtlO)

158
As expensive as the Disney parks are, they’re not any more expensive than other destination activities. A day of skiing is $150-200 for the high end resorts. Top Golf courses can cost $300 a round. Decent seats to a pro sportsball game can easily be several hundred dollars per seat. Disney parks are in that same level of cost.
Posted by: Montec

What is NOT having the Alphabets' mental illnesses flaunted in front of your face incessantly worth?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Your Gateway to Bismarck, ND (TM) at June 08, 2023 05:22 PM (pNxlR)

159 I miss Astroworld. I can imagine the young thug gang infested place it would be today though. I think the beginning of that was one of the reasons it closed.

Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2023 05:22 PM (MNhXM)

160 Does Lileks still overwinter at Disney World?

You know I haven't read his site since 2016 when he blew up full of stupid over Trump.

His books are really good though.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:23 PM (0hOvj)

161 The idea that George Lucas would turn LucasFilm around is kind of silly. He was responsible for the prequels, essentially a shaggy dog story lasting about eight hours.

He's also responsible for Kathleen Kennedy.
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Did somebody say Kathleen Kennedy?

Posted by: Stevey Spielberg at June 08, 2023 05:23 PM (17s+e)

162 The "Bibbidie Bobbidie Boutique" is where kids are invited in to look at $450 dresses (and prince outfits) so that they can pressure their parents to buy them

My dad was never one for corporal punishment, but I wonder how many times I would have been hit with a switch if I suggested he spend $450 on that.

Posted by: Chuck C at June 08, 2023 05:23 PM (xttsV)

163
how many times can you tell the exact same story?
Posted by: ace

A Star Is Born

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 08, 2023 05:23 PM (63Dwl)

164
(Has there ever been a good Kennedy?)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

The Dead Kennedys?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Your Gateway to Bismarck, ND (TM) at June 08, 2023 05:23 PM (pNxlR)

165 That would likely be George Lucas, because who else would have any interest in owning the rubble and noxious fumes of what's left of Lucasfilm?

elon musk?
Posted by: anachronda at June 08, 2023 05:21 PM (oY6Yp)

I don't recall much hint that Musk is too interested in SW....but he's the only one likely to have the ruthlessness to sweep the place clean enough to fight the woke infestation. You'd probably need non-union writers and directors. Possibly actors too.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 05:24 PM (eoQWY)

166 1) No outright porn/nudity

2) 'Impressions' are a fine line because they can stray way too close to the NSFW line. Some nipples? Depends. No wet t-shirt. Camel toe is across the line.

3) The guiding principle: would your mom and grandma say your name and shake her head? Then you are good to go. Would she slap you? Close to or over the line.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 08, 2023 05:21 PM (/xaUq)

See!!! See!!!!!! This kind of stuff is why I can't show my granny anything on this website!!!!

Posted by: North Northly Westerner at June 08, 2023 05:24 PM (Angsy)

167 Someone should send that fairy godmother to the Bibbity Bobbett Boutique.

Posted by: tsj017 at June 08, 2023 05:24 PM (k0AEq)

168 you're kidding! I guess that's a new story?

Wow. And they're usually such reliable Disney shills.

Maybe they're trying to lowball projections. Disney loves lowballing projections so that they can then say, "Wow, we almost met these very low projections! What a victory for us!"
Posted by: ace

https://youtu.be/8YqJ1PhwW0E

Posted by: Lost In Space at June 08, 2023 05:24 PM (93HMG)

169 I GOT THIS!! George Lukas should buy Lucasfilm!!

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 05:24 PM (j9VvT)

170 Deadline is reporting that Indiana Jones 5 is going to open at $60 million. This is a complete disaster

Those predictions are wrong often enough to be a coincidence if they get the numbers right... but they are usually in the ballpark, and for a 300+ million dollar movie, that's catastrophic.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:24 PM (0hOvj)

171 Selling to Lucas would explain KK's longevity last two years.

It has always felt like she was given so much latitude 'cause she knows where Lucas and Spielberg buried their bodies once upon a time. Casual blackmail 'cause she was complicit in their bad behavior and didn't speak up, but blackmail nonetheless.

I can imagine Lucas and friends being so petty that they would wait for her to cry uncle even if that meant destroying the whole company along with her reputation. Buying back the wreckage for pennies on the dollar is just icing on the "harder than it looks isn't it!?" cake.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2023 05:25 PM (k1Qly)

172 (Has there ever been a good Kennedy?)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

The Dead Kennedys?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Your Gateway to Bismarck, ND (TM) at June 08, 2023 05:23 PM (pNxlR)

The band had a sense of humor along with the Punk Rage. Jello Biafra is a good name.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 05:25 PM (eoQWY)

173 *Lucas not Lukas

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 05:25 PM (j9VvT)

174 Deadline is reporting that Indiana Jones 5 is going to open at $60 million. This is a complete disaster, worse than what happened with Little Mermaid and would seem to indicate that this movie generating close to a billion dollars in ticket sales is never going to happen. If I recall correctly, eager told Kennedy that unless this film generates a billion in ticket sales, she's gone.

Posted by: Lost In Space at June 08, 2023 05:19 PM

If that's the case, they can barely cover what they owe harrison ford.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 08, 2023 05:25 PM (ncXxy)

175 He's also responsible for Kathleen Kennedy.

(Has there ever been a good Kennedy?)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 08, 2023 05:21 PM (CHH

Senator Kennedy from Louisiana

Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2023 05:25 PM (MNhXM)

176 Nah, Disney isn't going to sell Lucas Film. They've destroyed it so badly, they would only get pennies on the dollar for it. Plus then there would be the rights issues for rides, etc.

They've destroyed Pixar, but Pixar has their Renderman 3D software which is what they started out as, a tech company. It still has value. They would get more for that than Lucas Film.

The big four networks should have stuck together with Hulu. Offered ad supported week-off showings of shows with a pay tier for live. One spot and they could have made a killing.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 08, 2023 05:25 PM (dN42F)

177 Has Doomcock been right about anything?

I don't want to hurt his brand but does he have any wins on his record?

Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 05:26 PM (iziT8)

178 134 As expensive as the Disney parks are, they’re not any more expensive than other destination activities. A day of skiing is $150-200 for the high end resorts. Top Golf courses can cost $300 a round. Decent seats to a pro sportsball game can easily be several hundred dollars per seat. Disney parks are in that same level of cost.
Posted by: Montec at June 08, 2023 05:16 PM (vYizA)

Yeah I'd have to shell out $550 to play Pebble Beach but you know what I'm not doing at Pebble? Standing in stupid-ass lines to ride two-minute rides and have chicks with dicks accost my kids. Oh, and I can get a hot dog at the turn for $8 instead of a shitty soft pretzel for $30 or whatever Disney has the stones to sell it for.

This is a poor analogy.

Posted by: ballistic at June 08, 2023 05:26 PM (oXNqT)

179 A mons too far.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 08, 2023 05:26 PM (Vwz3I)

180 Someone should send that fairy godmother to the Bibbity Bobbett Boutique.
Posted by: tsj017 at June 08, 2023 05:24 PM (k0AEq)

I laughed. Well done!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 08, 2023 05:27 PM (Keyt1)

181
As expensive as the Disney parks are, they’re not any more expensive than other destination activities. A day of skiing is $150-200 for the high end resorts. Top Golf courses can cost $300 a round. Decent seats to a pro sportsball game can easily be several hundred dollars per seat. Disney parks are in that same level of cost.
Posted by: Montec

What is NOT having the Alphabets' mental illnesses flaunted in front of your face incessantly worth?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Your Gateway to Bismarck, ND (TM) at June 08, 2023 05:22 PM (pNxlR)

I’m in now way suggesting anyone go to the parks. Just saying from a purely financial standpoint they’re not outrageously expansive relatively speaking.

Posted by: Montec at June 08, 2023 05:27 PM (vYizA)

182 So in 77 years we've gone from
"Hey look, mister. We serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint 'atmosphere'."
to
"So, my name is Nick, I am one of the Fairy Godmother's Apprentices"

Posted by: Chuck C at June 08, 2023 05:27 PM (xttsV)

183 (Has there ever been a good Kennedy?)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

Louisiana's got one.

Posted by: Peaches at June 08, 2023 05:27 PM (14URa)

184
I would think being greeted by a mustached man in a dress would be more than weird to kids and their parents, and were she alive-the voice over actress Verna Felton (1890-1966) who did the voice of the Fairy Godmother would be horrified.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

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It's beyond weird. It's cruel. When you were a little girl, did you ever dress up as a fairy princess or play at being one? If someone told you you were going to a special place where an actual fairyland lady would take you around a little shop where you could be made into a fairy princess for a day, and the fairyland lady turned out to be -- an ugly-ass thing with a beard and a fat stomach -- it would be worse than weird. It would be a slap in your face.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2023 05:27 PM (lCaJd)

185 If that's the case, they can barely cover what they owe harrison ford.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 08, 2023 05:25 PM (ncXxy)

His funeral will be magnificent.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 08, 2023 05:27 PM (dN42F)

186 Park attendance is also down on both coasts. That is the primary source of cash flow for Disney. If that goes south, selling a US THEME PARK may be on the table.

Predictions: George buys back Lucasfilm for less than $2 billion. Disney sells Pixar back to Apple for less than $4 billion. They sell Disneyland Paris, Shanghai and Hong Kong for $8 to $10 billion.

George declares everything Disney as non-canon and restores the EU.

And they will have to PAY Lucas for the rights to use Star Wars in their remaining parks.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Joe at June 08, 2023 05:27 PM (LpULS)

187 89 This busty, lewdly-posed brunette in clothes at least one size too small would never enter a dress shop employing a mustachioed man in an ill-fitting lady's garment:
https://is.gd/stpUUF
Posted by: Joe Mannix

No one wears red and orange at the same time.

Tacky

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 08, 2023 05:28 PM (bK1ip)

188 If Joe Mustache claims to be a woman and Disneyland won't give him an appropriate female role, it's lawsuit time.
Posted by: Cicero

1. Take away his shoes.
2. Put him in one of the park's kitchens.
3. Make him wear a pretend pregnancy 20lb weight on his gut.
4. Fire his ass if he says barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen ain't a woman's work.

*ducks, runs zigzgs from the 'ette's rifle fire*

Posted by: BifBewalski at June 08, 2023 05:28 PM (3CCua)

189 not sure Lucas is responsible for Kathy. How?? Once he sold he had no control. So much so, that there is a vid of him saying he has nothing to do with any of the SW product, and that only first two are his.

Posted by: runner at June 08, 2023 05:28 PM (j9VvT)

190 157 >>>Deadline is reporting that Indiana Jones 5 is going to open at $60 million. This is a complete disaster,

you're kidding! I guess that's a new story?

Wow. And they're usually such reliable Disney shills.

Maybe they're trying to lowball projections. Disney loves lowballing projections so that they can then say, "Wow, we almost met these very low projections! What a victory for us!"
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 05:22 PM (KRtlO)

I'm sure Deadline is lowballing...actual tracking is $70M...for a movie with a production budget just under $300M...aka, still an utter disaster, but they are looking ahead to spin this like they did Mermaid's opening weekend...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 08, 2023 05:28 PM (exHjb)

191 @15: "Apple could buy Disney with petty cash. ... Makes sense if Disney is in serious trouble for them to be making kissy faces towards Apple."

Disney and/or their major stockholders have floated the Apple buyout rumor over and over again. Especially when it seemed like Amazon was becoming the world's biggest company with no equal in sight. At some point through, Apple decided it wasn't a good match, and not worth the legacy baggage.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2023 05:29 PM (k1Qly)

192 Not enough dough in 0.001% of the population, Commies.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 08, 2023 05:30 PM (glGDV)

193 Is it really $550 for Pebble Beach? Damn. I played it in 2000 or 2001 and it was $2-something. Even adjusting for inflation $550 sounds Kray Kray. But obviously enough people pay it so the can charge it.

Posted by: Montec at June 08, 2023 05:30 PM (vYizA)

194 Here's a fun legal conundrum:

Disney requires its "face characters" like the princesses to have some passing resemblance to the character that they portray. Duh.

What if Disney turns down Joe Mustache for the role of The Little Mermaid? Is it a defense for Disney to say, "we would have used him but he just didn't look like Ariel?"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2023 05:30 PM (guGkK)

195 House Oversight committee actually filed a contempt resolution against Wray today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNzF_O5kXjk

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at June 08, 2023 05:30 PM (CecP5)

196
Maybe the Five Families could buy out Disney and move their attractions to Havana.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Your Gateway to Bismarck, ND (TM) at June 08, 2023 05:30 PM (pNxlR)

197 NO TRANNYS!
Posted by: Rule #1 at June 08, 2023 05:18 PM (iayUP)

NO POOFTERS!!

[crack tubes!]

Posted by: Aussie Faculty Lounge Meeting at June 08, 2023 05:31 PM (ZSK0i)

198 Disneyland historically had strict, decidedly "square" grooming and appearance standards for their employees, the idea being you're serving a diverse customer base of various nationalities, religions, and ages, and they didn't want to offend anyone's sensibilities, so went as bland and safe as possible. They also wanted their employees to be seen not as UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS but as ambassadors of the brand, the idea being their customers don't care who you are individually when they are interacting with you in the park. First the grooming/appearance standards were loosened up and now they're apparently completely indulging their employees at the cost of their brand. Walt's corpse must be spinning faster than Space Mountain.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at June 08, 2023 05:31 PM (hwQUl)

199 The big four networks should have stuck together with Hulu. Offered ad supported week-off showings of shows with a pay tier for live. One spot and they could have made a killing.
Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 08, 2023 05:25 PM (dN42F)

Nah. Some money, maybe, but there's only so many entertainment dollars out there and generations have been used to get channels for nominal rates or for free.

That's the iron law of streaming in my estimation - your real cost to provide is essentially 0 for old stuff and people will only pay a few bucks a few times a month for special or new things and all to one, maybe 2 providers. Otherwise its just too pricey.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 05:31 PM (eoQWY)

200 Disney parks are in that same level of cost.
Posted by: Montec

All of the other things you mentioned are typically adult things where you are paying for yourself and maybe one other. Also, those things typically don't involve large crowds and paying $10 for a can of Coke. Finally, the range you are discussing is the low-end Disney visit.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 08, 2023 05:31 PM (dN42F)

201 Disney and/or their major stockholders have floated the Apple buyout rumor over and over again. Especially when it seemed like Amazon was becoming the world's biggest company with no equal in sight. At some point through, Apple decided it wasn't a good match, and not worth the legacy baggage.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2023 05:29 PM (k1Qly)

In favor of a sale - Apple has already alienated most of the same folks politically. And Apple TV has been a pretty tragic launch. So, if anyone needed a good streaming platform with better liberal material, it's probably Apple.

Posted by: Nova Local at June 08, 2023 05:31 PM (exHjb)

202 >>> 194 Here's a fun legal conundrum:

Disney requires its "face characters" like the princesses to have some passing resemblance to the character that they portray. Duh.

What if Disney turns down Joe Mustache for the role of The Little Mermaid? Is it a defense for Disney to say, "we would have used him but he just didn't look like Ariel?"
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2023 05:30 PM (guGkK)

Heeeeeeeyyy! We just got an idea for ANOTHER reboot of The Little Mermaid!!!!

Posted by: Disney execs at June 08, 2023 05:31 PM (llON8)

203 those things typically don't involve large crowds and paying $10 for a can of Coke.

—

You’ve never skied Vail I take it, 🤣

Posted by: Montec at June 08, 2023 05:32 PM (vYizA)

204 Disney needs to go to Marvel origin stories. Movies like the beginning of the characters Stan Lee made.

Posted by: JmT at June 08, 2023 05:32 PM (ucixH)

205
Not enough dough in 0.001% of the population, Commies.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey

I'm just saying, let the "pride" contingent carry their allies' weight during Monkeypox Pride Month. Eyes will be opened.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Your Gateway to Bismarck, ND (TM) at June 08, 2023 05:32 PM (pNxlR)

206 I expect the democrat propaganda outlets to use "Walt Disney" company instead of Disney corporation to work on American nostalgia. I'm seeing this substitution quite a bit in FNM propaganda.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 08, 2023 05:33 PM (17s+e)

207 As far as I know a strip club in CA has never been sued for refusing to hire a dude to be a stripper. There must be an exemption somewhere in the law.

Maybe one day I'll look it up.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2023 05:33 PM (guGkK)

208 > Deadline is reporting that Indiana Jones 5 is going to open at $60 million.

It's Thursday. How do they know?

Ticket preorders? Number of theaters showing the movie?

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2023 05:33 PM (V1QHJ)

209 @68: "Money infusion for a cash-poor company?"

Plus there might be some accounting trickery where you can spread that revenue out over the next four quarterly reports.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2023 05:33 PM (k1Qly)

210
Plaintiff's lawyers don't give a rat's ass (see what I did there?) about what Anaheim has to say. If Joe Mustache claims to be a woman and Disneyland won't give him an appropriate female role, it's lawsuit time.
Posted by: Cicero

==========

I think Disney is doing this on its own. They can move a cast member to some backstage job or any job without this level of contact with the guests.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2023 05:34 PM (lCaJd)

211 but they are looking ahead to spin this like they did Mermaid's opening weekend

Who are they going to blame for Indy collapsing and burning? For Little Mermaid they called everyone a racist, who can they blame for white man Indy and white woman Fleabag? I mean, other than the people who wrote and directed it?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:34 PM (0hOvj)

212 180 Someone should send that fairy godmother to the Bibbity Bobbett Boutique.
Posted by: tsj017 at June 08, 2023 05:24 PM (k0AEq)

I laughed. Well done!

dammit that was my joke tho!

oh well no one reads my posts lol

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2023 05:35 PM (w0NJk)

213 "I hope to see a day when every major US entertainment business has closed its doors for good. It's all pure poison."

Yup. I've been getting into Indian cinema lately. American films are absolute garbage. I was watching an Indian movie this weekend Bhaubali (?) and was blown away by the visuals and epic scope of the film. What amazed me even more was that they did it on a $28 million dollar budget.

Also the women in it were smoking hot.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at June 08, 2023 05:35 PM (vm0mK)

214 The Wonderful World of Wokeyland

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2023 05:35 PM (xhxe8)

215 It's Thursday. How do they know?

This is what I don't get. Where did this start? This year is the first time I ever heard of this predicting opening day stuff, was it always around or is this yet another one of those dumb new stats that keep sprouting up, and give entertainment writers something to say between actual news?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:36 PM (0hOvj)

216 Disney needs to go to Marvel origin stories. Movies like the beginning of the characters Stan Lee made.

They're all white, straight and male. Three big no-no's in Hollywood.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 08, 2023 05:36 PM (CHHv1)

217 I guess Disney liked things than rhyme, so in honor of the real Fairy Godmother and Bipppety Boppety Boop, here's Bugs Bunny as the Genie in a Disney cartoon with "Flippety Flappety floop. This cartoon always makes me laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu92wc7IQl0

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 08, 2023 05:36 PM (Keyt1)

218 Nah. Some money, maybe, but there's only so many entertainment dollars out there and generations have been used to get channels for nominal rates or for free.

That's the iron law of streaming in my estimation - your real cost to provide is essentially 0 for old stuff and people will only pay a few bucks a few times a month for special or new things and all to one, maybe 2 providers. Otherwise its just too pricey.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 05:31 PM (eoQWY)

The networks already offer ad-supported free channels. Those are all Tubi, Pluto,etc. are. Network stations that show old stuff. Hulu works if you have NBC, CBS, ABC, and FOX all in one place offering an ad-supported free tier, and then a live $10-15/month tier with live showings, and no or severely restricted ad replays.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 08, 2023 05:36 PM (dN42F)

219 Because Apple just began its own animation studio, under former Pixar head John Lassiter,

Not that it matters, but Lassiter is chief of Skydance Animation owned by Skydance Media. Apple + was the streaming channel for his first new flick last year.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 08, 2023 05:36 PM (jzzG8)

220 Lucas' ex-wife should buy Lucasfilm. She's the editor that made A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi great films.

All the crappy films George made were after they split and she didn't edit for him anymore.

Posted by: Just Lily at June 08, 2023 05:36 PM (RLLZj)

221 Staying on mountain at Park City or Vail or snowbird will cost $1000 a day easy, per person, when factoring in food, passes, parking, etc. That’s my point. If you want the high end experience it costs a lot. Disney I had tapped into that market. Parents with means will pay it.

Posted by: Montec at June 08, 2023 05:37 PM (vYizA)

222 Deadline is reporting that Indiana Jones 5 is going to open at $60 million.

It's Thursday. How do they know?

I'm pretty sure data scientists have found proxies in social media to provide these estimates.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 08, 2023 05:37 PM (YXHzG)

223 NYC has put the kids on remote learning tomorrow over air quality concerns

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at June 08, 2023 05:37 PM (Eeb9P)

224 All the crappy films George made were after they split and she didn't edit for him anymore.

Just Lily is completely correct!

but then again, editing is dead, in visual and print media

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2023 05:37 PM (w0NJk)

225 Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2023 05:35 PM (w0NJk)

Sorry, Black Orchid. Misattributed. And I do read your posts.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 08, 2023 05:37 PM (Keyt1)

226 208 > Deadline is reporting that Indiana Jones 5 is going to open at $60 million.

It's Thursday. How do they know?

Ticket preorders? Number of theaters showing the movie?
Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2023 05:33 PM (V1QHJ)

Since I follow this stuff...it's all of the above. Presales, presale trends and pace of those sales, type of release, number of screens/showings allocated for presales and expected for open, sequel or original, etc, etc, etc...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 08, 2023 05:37 PM (exHjb)

227 Money infusion for a cash-poor company?"

Plus there might be some accounting trickery where you can spread that revenue out over the next four quarterly reports.
Posted by: Walter Freeman

It would be funny to see a rumor start that Disney doesn't have enough cash to pay their employees.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 08, 2023 05:37 PM (1x9G1)

228 223 NYC has put the kids on remote learning tomorrow over air quality concerns
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see?!!? see?!?!

I was right!

they are starting the "global warming lockdown" BS!!!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2023 05:37 PM (w0NJk)

229 > Has Doomcock been right about anything?

I think he had some of the main story beats of Indy 5 pretty early on. But take that with a massive grain of salt.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2023 05:38 PM (V1QHJ)

230 oops!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2023 05:38 PM (w0NJk)

231 continuing from last thread, some perspective.
From JJ's morning link to Frontpage

"Howard Zinn (1922-2010) was a card-carrying Communist, a daily fixture at Party meetings in New York, an inveterate Soviet apologist, a member of a range of Kremlin front groups, a cheerleader for Mao’s “people’s government,” a supporter of Castro and Ho Chi Minh, a co-founder of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, and an associate of such groups as ACORN, the Democratic Socialists of America, and International ANSWER"

Who do you all think was funding this scumbag?
The US would be better off had we banned Russian influence way back. Ukraine is fully justified in cracking down on the church, parties, and people who are funded by the KGB.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 08, 2023 05:38 PM (IB09k)

232 Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok

“We’re not indoctrinating your kids. We’re just putting these displays of books about pronouns and gender at the entrance to every library in America”

https://tinyurl.com/5424t2n5

Posted by: redridinghood at June 08, 2023 05:38 PM (NpAcC)

233 I got a little verklempt there, sorry

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 08, 2023 05:38 PM (w0NJk)

234 I went to Chick-fil-A for the first time in over a year. The chicken sandwich was overcooked, dry, and bland. The waffle french fries were soggy and at best under salted. This is identical to what I had a year ago. I don't get why people like this place based on these two visits a year apart. What's worse is this so-called meal cost me 10 bucks which is .50 less than the 3 carne asada tacos I got the other day which were fantastic.

Posted by: Lost In Space at June 08, 2023 05:38 PM (93HMG)

235 Who are they going to blame for Indy collapsing and burning? For Little Mermaid they called everyone a racist, who can they blame for white man Indy and white woman Fleabag? I mean, other than the people who wrote and directed it?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:34 PM (0hOvj)

The Fans. Its always the Fans. It certainly isn't THEM.

I imagine that is why Disney started out ditching the EU, they thought they could leave the rabid SW fans out of it while they came up with their "new" trilogy. But the fans started pointing out the problems with their new stuff regardless.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 05:38 PM (eoQWY)

236 NYC has put the kids on remote learning tomorrow over air quality concerns

For once, I agree with their decision.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 08, 2023 05:38 PM (eOEVl)

237 Who are they going to blame for Indy collapsing and burning? For Little Mermaid they called everyone a racist, who can they blame for white man Indy and white woman Fleabag? I mean, other than the people who wrote and directed it?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:34 PM (0hOvj)

Asked and answered.

Posted by: JmT at June 08, 2023 05:38 PM (ucixH)

238 Ok now do mustache guy dressed up as Rey. Lol. Don't cross the streams!!!!@!

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 08, 2023 05:38 PM (eggM4)

239
House Oversight committee actually filed a contempt resolution against Wray today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNzF_O5kXjk
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president

=========

Sho nuff, JackStraw told me today was the day of the Committee vote.

Well, that bit of administrative froo-fraw is done. Now it goes to the DOJ, and... [weak laughter]

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2023 05:39 PM (lCaJd)

240 215 It's Thursday. How do they know?

This is what I don't get. Where did this start? This year is the first time I ever heard of this predicting opening day stuff, was it always around or is this yet another one of those dumb new stats that keep sprouting up, and give entertainment writers something to say between actual news?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:36 PM (0hOvj)

I've been doing it since college, or 20+ years...some are paid professionally...I'm with an amateur group. We tend to beat the pros since Covid...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 08, 2023 05:39 PM (exHjb)

241 All the crappy films George made were after they split and she didn't edit for him anymore.

Every time they interview Lucas he has a different story about how it went. At one point he claimed that he had the whole trilogy mapped out and written but had to cut it back because it would be too long. He's full of crap.

But he has neat ideas.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:39 PM (0hOvj)

242 Disney needs to go to Marvel origin stories. Movies like the beginning of the characters Stan Lee made.
Posted by: JmT at June 08, 2023 05:32 PM (ucixH)

Um...*double checks IMDB*....you know that is all of the original Marvel movies, origin stories. It is super hero movie fatigue.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 08, 2023 05:39 PM (dN42F)

243 NYC has put the kids on remote learning tomorrow over air quality concerns
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at June 08, 2023 05:37 PM (Eeb9P)

How bad is the air quality in schools versus homes?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 08, 2023 05:40 PM (1x9G1)

244 > Since I follow this stuff...it's all of the above. Presales, presale trends and pace of those sales, type of release, number of screens/showings allocated for presales and expected for open, sequel or original, etc, etc, etc...

Makes sense. Do you know their error bars?

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2023 05:40 PM (V1QHJ)

245 It is super hero movie fatigue.

*makes pointy index finger sign*

Posted by: Archimedes at June 08, 2023 05:40 PM (eOEVl)

246 Makes sense. Do you know their error bars?

I was led to believe that there would be no science on this thread.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 08, 2023 05:41 PM (eOEVl)

247 People who hate superhero movies are convinced that now everyone agrees with them. People who like superhero movies are convinced that its just bad movies people are tired of. Maybe it is a combo of both, who knows? But some superhero stuff still does well (Guardians of the Galaxy 3, although that's not exactly superheroes). We'll see with France.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:41 PM (0hOvj)

248 It would be funny to see a rumor start that Disney doesn't have enough cash to pay their employees.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 08, 2023 05:37 PM (1x9G1)

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"Biden Announces $1 Trillion Government Bailout for Disney."

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 08, 2023 05:42 PM (vtaS3)

249 Why would the merits of a Fox case against Tucker matter? It's a matter of justice, not facts. "Fox good, Tucker bad" will be the sum total of their "case," and they'll win on that argument.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 08, 2023 05:42 PM (oINRc)

250 Yup. I've been getting into Indian cinema lately. American films are absolute garbage.

Making flights to and from Cape town, I watched quite a few Indian movies. Fairly well written, acted and produced.

One thing was amazingly clear, their promotion of wholesome traditional values. (maybe that was just the selection for Qatar Airline)

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 08, 2023 05:42 PM (YXHzG)

251 Just an anecdote I recall from my childhood.

I was at Disneyland watching a parade of Disney characters parading by and I ran out to shake Mickey's hand or maybe it was Tigger or whatever and the person inside the suit snapped their hand away from me really abruptly.

Completely shattered the Disney illusion for me permanently.

Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 05:42 PM (iziT8)

252 Who do you all think was funding this scumbag?
The US would be better off had we banned Russian influence way back. Ukraine is fully justified in cracking down on the church, parties, and people who are funded by the KGB.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 08, 2023 05:38 PM (IB09k)

There isn't a KGB any more and I assume like all churches Orthodox parishes in Ukraine are supported by the people who live and pray there.

As an old cold warrior I resent your wearing the skinsuit of those of us who resisted Communism and the USSR. This is clown work.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 05:42 PM (eoQWY)

253
NYC has put the kids on remote learning tomorrow over air quality concerns

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at June 08, 2023 05:37 PM

Tomorrow the epicenter of the nastiness is projected to be northern Ohio. In my corner of SE PA it's getting a whole lot clearer.

I think NYC is overreacting or not doing any research about this thing called 'weather'. It changes.

Posted by: Karen CheChe at June 08, 2023 05:42 PM (enJYY)

254 242 Disney needs to go to Marvel origin stories. Movies like the beginning of the characters Stan Lee made.
Posted by: JmT at June 08, 2023 05:32 PM (ucixH)

Um...*double checks IMDB*....you know that is all of the original Marvel movies, origin stories. It is super hero movie fatigue.
Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 08, 2023 05:39 PM (dN42F)

They are doing story lines and characters that killed the comics. When they are turned into movies, it doesn't make them any better.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 08, 2023 05:43 PM (/xaUq)

255 244 > Since I follow this stuff...it's all of the above. Presales, presale trends and pace of those sales, type of release, number of screens/showings allocated for presales and expected for open, sequel or original, etc, etc, etc...

Makes sense. Do you know their error bars?
Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2023 05:40 PM (V1QHJ)

Deadline tends not to be the source you go for accuracy...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 08, 2023 05:43 PM (exHjb)

256 As far as I know a strip club in CA has never been sued for refusing to hire a dude to be a stripper. There must be an exemption somewhere in the law.

A guy sued to become a Hooter's wait staffer. The club won the suit on the basis that it is a "sexually oriented business" and could define which sex it was oriented to. Note the term "sexually" not "gender oriented".

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at June 08, 2023 05:43 PM (CecP5)

257 On topic for a movie thread, I watched Where the Crawdads Sing last night. Excellent movie.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 08, 2023 05:44 PM (sWM8x)

258 And if you want lower tracking, Elemental is projected to open below Indy...although Flash is not looking great, either...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 08, 2023 05:44 PM (exHjb)

259 >>> 249 Why would the merits of a Fox case against Tucker matter? It's a matter of justice, not facts. "Fox good, Tucker bad" will be the sum total of their "case," and they'll win on that argument.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 08, 2023 05:42 PM (oINRc)

Jury votes 81 million to 1 in favor of Fox News vs Tucker Carlson!!

Posted by: This... is XiNN at June 08, 2023 05:44 PM (llON8)

260 People who hate superhero movies are convinced that now everyone agrees with them. People who like superhero movies are convinced that its just bad movies people are tired of.

You mean they should stop selecting movies from the "crappy superhero movies" folder?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 08, 2023 05:44 PM (eOEVl)

261 Yeah I just priced 7 days at WDW, and this is a middle-of-the-road package with park hopper and water ride pass.

This is for lodging and park tickets ONLY. No airfare, car rental, food, beverage, souvenirs, or anything else that's EASILY going to be a $3k spend with two little kids.

Subtotal
$9,271.08 USD

I'm not kidding when I say I could fly my family to the South Pacific for cheaper.

Posted by: ballistic at June 08, 2023 05:44 PM (oXNqT)

262 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu92wc7IQl0
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 08, 2023 05:36 PM (Keyt1)

Rats, that one cut off Daffy's rejoinder after Hassan dives into the pile of gold:

"Ickkity Akkity Oop... ... oh oh squeak ah ah pffbbblllttt" - walks off

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 08, 2023 05:44 PM (ZSK0i)

263 The left will now scream "that icky Desantis caused Mickey, Goofy , Cinderella and Luke Skywalker to go bankrupt. He's mean to children and made them cry" . The propaganda ministries will bark in unison and the drones will march in lockstep. Let the bodies hit the floor

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 08, 2023 05:44 PM (OhpJy)

264 @201: "And Apple TV has been a pretty tragic launch."

If you look at Amazon Prime, and only consider their original stuff, then Apple TV+ isn't too far off the mark. And I do mean original stuff that they themselves helped finance and produce, not all the ready made international stuff waiting for distribution that they slapped an "Amazon Original" sticker on.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2023 05:45 PM (k1Qly)

265 Can we call it a compromise if we call that specific type of queer a fake woman? The word woman gets used, per its demand, right? Queer is not verboten, it is in LGBTQ after all. How about Super Queer? A dig cloaked in respect. The Left are masters at politically correct ridicule. Just spitballing here.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at June 08, 2023 05:45 PM (eFxeZ)

266 > I went to Chick-fil-A for the first time in over a year. The chicken sandwich was overcooked, dry, and bland. The waffle french fries were soggy and at best under salted. This is identical to what I had a year ago. I don't get why people like this place based on these two visits a year apart. What's worse is this so-called meal cost me 10 bucks which is .50 less than the 3 carne asada tacos I got the other day which were fantastic.

I've only ever eaten there a few times. I've not had an overcooked or dry piece of chicken, but I find the chicken itself to be bland. The seasoned breading is pretty good. I'm not a fan of their fries. I tend to like their sauces.

It's OK for a chain fast food restaurant.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2023 05:46 PM (V1QHJ)

267 As an old cold warrior I resent your wearing the skinsuit of those of us who resisted Communism and the USSR. This is clown work.
Posted by: Oldcat

how the hell am I wearing a skinsuit?

Sure, KGB changed it's name - do you really think Russia has given up it's whole approach to undermining the West?

So now Russia are the good guys. Fine, go with that.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 08, 2023 05:46 PM (IB09k)

268 Subtotal
$9,271.08 USD

I'm not kidding when I say I could fly my family to the South Pacific for cheaper.
Posted by: ballistic at June 08, 2023 05:44 PM (oXNqT)

Dear Lord.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 08, 2023 05:46 PM (/xaUq)

269 Koo-koo banana-pants world

@Breaking911 44m
BREAKING: Parents Of Nashville School Shooter Want To Give Rights To Manifesto To Victims’ Parents

(This after at least on the victims' families said they don't want it released. )

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 08, 2023 05:46 PM (jzzG8)

270 The smoke here in Hudson Valley isn't nearly as bad as yesterday. Little chill in the air though

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 08, 2023 05:46 PM (OhpJy)

271 The left will now scream "that icky Desantis caused Mickey, Goofy , Cinderella and Luke Skywalker to go bankrupt. He's mean to children and made them cry" . The propaganda ministries will bark in unison and the drones will march in lockstep. Let the bodies hit the floor

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 08, 2023 05:44 PM (OhpJy)

Darth Santis: "And I'd do it again!"

Posted by: ... at June 08, 2023 05:46 PM (lX8VI)

272

Did any of Charles Bronson’s movies lose money? They looked like they were made for a carton of Winstons.

But these shitty companies will continue to put the burden of esg and grooming on their employees in hopes of INFUSING wokeness and black love in young boys.

Does this happen in other countries

Posted by: Rev Dr Happy Hands at June 08, 2023 05:46 PM (8aKIh)

273 I've only ever eaten there a few times. I've not had an overcooked or dry piece of chicken, but I find the chicken itself to be bland.

Popeye's is still the best of the fast food chicken.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 08, 2023 05:46 PM (eOEVl)

274 The grooming, child abuse and child sexual abuse makes sense when you realize that is how demonic spirits inhabit humans at an early age leading them away from Jesus Christ. It's all about Souls.

Posted by: Eagle Lips at June 08, 2023 05:47 PM (313+e)

275 https://pjmedia.com/california takes a big step towards legalizing shoplifting
New bill, no doubt soon to be passed by the one party state will make it no one will be allowed to stop a shoplifter

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2023 05:47 PM (xhxe8)

276 Who are they going to blame for Indy collapsing and burning? For Little Mermaid they called everyone a racist, who can they blame for white man Indy and white woman Fleabag? I mean, other than the people who wrote and directed it?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:34 PM (0hOvj)

Asked and answered.
Posted by: JmT at June 08, 2023 05:38 PM (ucixH)

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Heh.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 08, 2023 05:47 PM (vtaS3)

277 The left will now scream "that icky Desantis caused Mickey, Goofy , Cinderella and Luke Skywalker to go bankrupt. He's mean to children and made them cry" . The propaganda ministries will bark in unison and the drones will march in lockstep. Let the bodies hit the floor
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Except for Disneyland in Anaheim and we all know who is Governor of that state.

Posted by: Cheri at June 08, 2023 05:47 PM (oiNtH)

278 264 @201: "And Apple TV has been a pretty tragic launch."

If you look at Amazon Prime, and only consider their original stuff, then Apple TV+ isn't too far off the mark. And I do mean original stuff that they themselves helped finance and produce, not all the ready made international stuff waiting for distribution that they slapped an "Amazon Original" sticker on.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2023 05:45 PM (k1Qly)

Neither are good. Lots of businesses are finding the streaming business is hard to crack, and what benefits you might get could be costing you a ton elsewhere (Disney, b/c its streaming has been the most successful launch against Netflix, now has the left "boycott" movies as much as the right, but for different reasons - for them, they are already paying $10/month to get those movies, so why pay twice?). It's why it's so easy for us to take down Disney theatrical b/c they already made themselves so vulnerable with their unprofitable streaming which is now a weight on them...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 08, 2023 05:48 PM (exHjb)

279 "Ickkity Akkity Oop... ... oh oh squeak ah ah pffbbblllttt" - walks off
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 08, 2023 05:44 PM (ZSK0i)

I'm impressed that you remembered the dialogue. You must have liked that cartoon too?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 08, 2023 05:48 PM (Keyt1)

280 "I went to Chick-fil-A for the first time in over a year. The chicken sandwich was overcooked, dry, and bland. The waffle french fries were soggy and at best under salted. This is identical to what I had a year ago. I don't get why people like this place based on these two visits a year apart. What's worse is this so-called meal cost me 10 bucks which is .50 less than the 3 carne asada tacos I got the other day which were fantastic.

Posted by: Lost In Space"

Yeah I don't get it either.

Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 05:48 PM (iziT8)

281 Every time they interview Lucas he has a different story about how it went. At one point he claimed that he had the whole trilogy mapped out and written but had to cut it back because it would be too long. He's full of crap.

But he has neat ideas.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:39 PM (0hOvj)

That was always bull, that he had it all mapped out. The first movie definitely did not view Vader as the most high baddy, or second most even. No way you'd hide Luke under his own name with his blood relatives. Vader was more like a SS Colonel type. Note the staffer that mocks him and Tarkin calls him off without a thought. Probably Vader was not Lukes father until the later OT. Leah as Sister too - you would not play so close to the incest if you knew that was coming.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 05:48 PM (eoQWY)

282 According to NPR, Shit-Brain Brandon canceled his Hubris-Faggotry-Perversion-Mentally-Ill event tonight because of the bad air from Canada.
Also, they said Pat Robertson, who died today, was "controversial".

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 08, 2023 05:49 PM (ufFY8)

283 https://pjmedia.com/california takes a big step towards legalizing shoplifting
New bill, no doubt soon to be passed by the one party state will make it no one will be allowed to stop a shoplifter

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2023 05:47 PM (xhxe

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Next they'll do murder.

Oh, wait ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 08, 2023 05:49 PM (vtaS3)

284 I would love it if Elon Musk bought Lucasfilm a d turned it into a fan-run studio. Imagine Star Wars movies produced by people who love Star Wars. What a radical idea.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 08, 2023 05:49 PM (9yUzE)

285 Elemental is projected to open below Indy

Elemental is the fourth or fifth movie of the exact same premise that Disney has made. Personifications of Emojis, no Emotions, no Colors, no... its pathetic.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:49 PM (0hOvj)

286 > I was at Disneyland watching a parade of Disney characters parading by and I ran out to shake Mickey's hand or maybe it was Tigger or whatever and the person inside the suit snapped their hand away from me really abruptly.

When Disney reopened after Covid, there were several videos floating around of character minders shooing kids away from characters. NO TOUCH!

I went to California Adventure many years ago and I saw the character Sully yank his hand out of a person's grasp.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2023 05:49 PM (V1QHJ)

287 Well, that bit of administrative froo-fraw is done. Now it goes to the DOJ, and... [weak laughter]

Nope, all that has to happen is for Wray to set foot in the Capitol and the House can arrest him. Since he can be impeached, he has to show up for his trial in the Senate.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at June 08, 2023 05:50 PM (CecP5)

288 Neither are good. Lots of businesses are finding the streaming business is hard to crack, and what benefits you might get could be costing you a ton elsewhere (Disney, b/c its streaming has been the most successful launch against Netflix, now has the left "boycott" movies as much as the right, but for different reasons - for them, they are already paying $10/month to get those movies, so why pay twice?). It's why it's so easy for us to take down Disney theatrical b/c they already made themselves so vulnerable with their unprofitable streaming which is now a weight on them...

At this point, I think all streaming services are going to lose money. The question is who can hold out long enough for the weak ones to be culled? I doubt more than 20% of the current services will survive.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 08, 2023 05:50 PM (eOEVl)

289
This year is the first time I ever heard of this predicting opening day stuff, was it always around or is this yet another one of those dumb new stats that keep sprouting up, and give entertainment writers something to say between actual news?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

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Gaming out Opening Day and Opening Weekend used to be one of the big things at the old IMDb message boards (now removed). It was incredibly fun.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2023 05:50 PM (lCaJd)

290 Disney should have the Hooters defense if they chose to.

Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2023 05:50 PM (QJGMB)

291 I went to Popeye's once.

Once.

Posted by: eleven at June 08, 2023 05:50 PM (iziT8)

292
KILL YOUR TELEVISION

Posted by: DB - he gets the nod at June 08, 2023 05:50 PM (geLO8)

293 Vader was more like a SS Colonel type. Note the staffer that mocks him and Tarkin calls him off without a thought.

Yeah, he was basically an inquisitor for an old religion that nobody liked any more, not a terrifying ultimate badass that ruled everything. Its hilarious how his power has grown over time, he barely can throw boxes around at Luke in Empire, and now movies have him demolishing armies and blowing things up.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:51 PM (0hOvj)

294 Yup. I've been getting into Indian cinema lately. American films are absolute garbage. I was watching an Indian movie this weekend Bhaubali (?) and was blown away by the visuals and epic scope of the film. What amazed me even more was that they did it on a $28 million dollar budget.

Also the women in it were smoking hot.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at June 08, 2023 05:35 PM (vm0mK)
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I've long thought that Bollywood could eat Hollywood's lunch if they went easy on the curry powder and marketed heavily in the U.S. Some of their movies are indeed really good.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2023 05:51 PM (YqDXo)

295 I imagine that is why Disney started out ditching the EU, they thought they could leave the rabid SW fans out of it while they came up with their "new" trilogy. But the fans started pointing out the problems with their new stuff regardless.
Posted by: Oldcat

And now they've just cannibalized Heir to the Empire, stealing Thrawn to paste into their new GRRL Power Jedi Princess story, Ashoka.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 08, 2023 05:51 PM (jzzG8)

296 The House of Mouse is a Louse!

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 08, 2023 05:51 PM (4I/2K)

297 I'm gonna wash Ewok right outta my hair and send him on his way!

Posted by: a hot nurse, showering in the south pacific at June 08, 2023 05:51 PM (Vwz3I)

298 Joe Biden allegedly paid $5M by Burisma exec as part of a bribery scheme, according to FBI document

Posted by: DB - he gets the nod at June 08, 2023 05:52 PM (geLO8)

299 Bring back Blockbuster !!!

Posted by: polynikes at June 08, 2023 05:52 PM (QJGMB)

300 Who do you all think was funding this scumbag?
The US would be better off had we banned Russian influence way back. Ukraine is fully justified in cracking down on the church, parties, and people who are funded by the KGB.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 08, 2023 05:38 PM (IB09k)

Does the KGB exist anymore? I thought they went the way of all the Stalin statues in the 90's

Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 05:52 PM (xhaym)

301 @244: "Makes sense. Do you know their error bars? "

Most predictions these days are pretty damn accurate two weeks ahead of release, and when they do miss, it's on the high end where some movies over-perform long term after the second and third weekends.

Indy 5 projection is being weighted against comparable movies based on the demographics of early ticket sales and "definitely plan on seeing this in theater" surveys. The broad audience nostalgia factor is very weak and it's trending closer to an average "not too masculine" action movie.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2023 05:52 PM (k1Qly)

302 Disney should have the Hooters defense if they chose to.
Posted by: polynikes

Yeah, right. I sexually oriented business geared to three and four-year-olds. That'll go over like a fart in church.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 08, 2023 05:52 PM (1x9G1)

303 I've long thought that Bollywood could eat Hollywood's lunch if they went easy on the curry powder and marketed heavily in the U.S. Some of their movies are indeed really good.

People didn't like it when the cast spontaneously broke into song and dance in American musicals. They still don't.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 08, 2023 05:52 PM (eOEVl)

304 298 Joe Biden allegedly paid $5M by Burisma exec as part of a bribery scheme, according to FBI document
Posted by: DB - he gets the nod at June 08, 2023 05:52 PM (geLO

And they are going after Trump

Posted by: Zelensky at June 08, 2023 05:52 PM (bs+z0)

305
he has to show up for his trial in the Senate.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president

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That's his _hypothetical_ trial, right? That's IF both houses vote to impeach him, then he's tried, or something?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2023 05:53 PM (lCaJd)

306 Neither are good. Lots of businesses are finding the streaming business is hard to crack, and what benefits you might get could be costing you a ton elsewhere (Disney, b/c its streaming has been the most successful launch against Netflix, now has the left "boycott" movies as much as the right, but for different reasons - for them, they are already paying $10/month to get those movies, so why pay twice?). It's why it's so easy for us to take down Disney theatrical b/c they already made themselves so vulnerable with their unprofitable streaming which is now a weight on them...
Posted by: Nova Local at June 08, 2023 05:48 PM (exHjb)

Disney+ is losing the equivalent of a Disney Cruise ship a quarter. All Disney+ has done is cannibalize their business. Apple and Amazon have other lines of income.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 08, 2023 05:53 PM (dN42F)

307 234: it’s fast food, not Ruth’s Chris.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 08, 2023 05:53 PM (Ph+gC)

308 https://pjmedia.com/california takes a big step towards legalizing shoplifting
New bill, no doubt soon to be passed by the one party state will make it no one will be allowed to stop a shoplifter

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2023 05:47 PM (xhxe

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Next they'll do murder.

Oh, wait ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 08, 2023 05:49 PM (vtaS3)
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Chicago beat 'em to it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2023 05:53 PM (YqDXo)

309 At this point, I think all streaming services are going to lose money. The question is who can hold out long enough for the weak ones to be culled? I doubt more than 20% of the current services will survive.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 08, 2023 05:50 PM (eOEVl)

I think they will have to merge like interwebz so I can be on provider A and for a nominal upcharge get a movie from provider B to me. No way people will live with more than a few subscriptions to a service at once.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 05:53 PM (eoQWY)

310 I had Poyeye’s last night. There should be a law against counting a scrawny wing as 1 chicken piece.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 08, 2023 05:53 PM (6FB02)

311 Does the KGB exist anymore? I thought they went the way of all the Stalin statues in the 90's

The KGB has become the FSB. They will never go away.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 08, 2023 05:54 PM (eOEVl)

312 That'll go over like a fart in church.

In my defense, those wooden pews are like a sounding board and during the prayers things are really quiet

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:54 PM (0hOvj)

313 At this point, I think all streaming services are going to lose money. The question is who can hold out long enough for the weak ones to be culled? I doubt more than 20% of the current services will survive. Posted by: Archimedes

My bet is FAST (Free Ad Supported Streaming) is going to be a winning model with Roku emerging as one of the winners. They make bank off controlling their platform and though that ad revenue. Expand the number of ads being trafficked and they make more money.

Posted by: Lost In Space at June 08, 2023 05:54 PM (93HMG)

314 Posted by: Eagle Lips at June 08, 2023 05:47 PM (313+e)

Bingo. I believe we are witnessing a demonic invasion.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at June 08, 2023 05:54 PM (eFxeZ)

315 And they are going after Trump
Posted by: Zelensky

That's why they're slow rolling the Biden stuff. They're waiting until they've locked in a series of charges against Trump. This Burisma stuff is a shell game.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 08, 2023 05:54 PM (jzzG8)

316 Boo Hoo Disney.. You made your perverted bed now lie in it...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 08, 2023 05:54 PM (bs+z0)

317 People didn't like it when the cast spontaneously broke into song and dance in American musicals. They still don't.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 08, 2023 05:52 PM (eOEVl)
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It's easy enough to feather those scenes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2023 05:54 PM (YqDXo)

318 Watching in amazement a 30 year old Nigerian dude bribe an obese 53 year old South Georgian woman with cake as an apology. She traveled to Nigeria. Lol

Watching this shitshow with my sick parents is a laugh riot. But it would be elder abuse to film their reactions and post it.

Posted by: Eagle Lips at June 08, 2023 05:54 PM (313+e)

319 Does the KGB exist anymore? I thought they went the way of all the Stalin statues in the 90's
Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 05:52 PM (xhaym)

Hey, he's on a roll!

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 05:55 PM (eoQWY)

320 >>That's his _hypothetical_ trial, right? That's IF both houses vote to impeach him, then he's tried, or something?

House impeaches. Senate holds the trial.

Posted by: JackStraw channeling Bane at June 08, 2023 05:55 PM (ZLI7S)

321 There should be a law against counting a scrawny wing as 1 chicken piece.

Popeyes has gone way down hill in recent years. First they stripped the menu down from most of my favorites, and now the quality is suffering. Still better than creaky old awful KFC these days, but not as much as it used to be.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:55 PM (0hOvj)

322 Yeah, right. I sexually oriented business geared to three and four-year-olds. That'll go over like a fart in church.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 08, 2023 05:52 PM (1x9G1)

I think he means they could argue the position requires a specific sex to fulfill the role.

Posted by: Crom Laughs at June 08, 2023 05:55 PM (dN42F)

323 I had Poyeye’s last night. There should be a law against counting a scrawny wing as 1 chicken piece.

Have you been to KFC lately? I'm not sure what body part some of the "pieces" are?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 08, 2023 05:55 PM (eOEVl)

324 Have you been to KFC lately? I'm not sure what body part some of the "pieces" are?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 08, 2023 05:55 PM (eOEVl)

And you don't wanna know

Posted by: It's me donna at June 08, 2023 05:56 PM (bs+z0)

325 People didn't like it when the cast spontaneously broke into song and dance in American musicals.

It can work, if you handle it right and don't overdo it. Bollywood kind of overdoes it, but they do it well.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:56 PM (0hOvj)

326 I am sure going after Trump is to scare anyone from being the Republican nomination

Posted by: Skip at June 08, 2023 05:56 PM (xhxe8)

327 I'm impressed that the word "mindflay" was used -- those mindflayers were difficult monster opponents in D&D.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 08, 2023 05:57 PM (ssESX)

328 Popeye's Chicken Sammich is so much better than the CFA Sammich that it is unfair to compare the two.

CFA is really bland stuff.

Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2023 05:57 PM (1SYO0)

329 I went to Chick-fil-A

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fwiw, the chickens now come from china and are probably filled with slufgy fillers.

not good.

literally, my brothers, go to B dubs. They use tallow. I was shocked how good the burger was. FWIW, they also have a rewards program. maybe costs $5-$10 more than you'd spend at chik fil a

Posted by: sockamster, master/hamster...the truth may shock you at June 08, 2023 05:57 PM (MLrvz)

330 The KGB has become the FSB. They will never go away.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 08, 2023 05:54 PM (eOEVl)

And the Cheka hired the old Okhrana members. And the point is apparently that someone funded fifty years ago by a defunct government is a reason to use nukes in Ukraine.

Dude, leave the Sicilian approach to grudges to the Sicilians. Those idiots are still plotting revenge against the Austrian Empire.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 05:57 PM (xhaym)

331 > Yeah I just priced 7 days at WDW, and this is a middle-of-the-road package with park hopper and water ride pass.

This is for lodging and park tickets ONLY. No airfare, car rental, food, beverage, souvenirs, or anything else that's EASILY going to be a $3k spend with two little kids.

Subtotal
$9,271.08 USD

How many people? 7 day park hopper plus water ride looks to be around $112 per person per day = $784. $784 * 5 = $3920. Say two rooms at $220 each for 7 days is another $3080. That's $7,000.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2023 05:57 PM (V1QHJ)

332 Along with writing for the "Babylon Bee", i think doing the voices for some of the older Disney films and cartoons must have been so much fun. I'd like to think Mel Blanc enjoyed himself.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 08, 2023 05:57 PM (Keyt1)

333 'It's a bunch of malarkey': Biden LAUGHS off accusations he was part of a $5million bribery scheme with a foreign national - and jokes: 'Where's the money?'

Posted by: DB - he gets the nod at June 08, 2023 05:58 PM (geLO8)

334 70 billion / 3 = 28 billion?

New math.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 08, 2023 05:58 PM (Zqeqr)

335 @327: "I'm impressed that the word 'mindflay' was used -- those mindflayers were difficult monster opponents in D&D."

I almost said the same thing, but kept it to myself.

*fistbump*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2023 05:58 PM (k1Qly)

336 How many people? 7 day park hopper plus water ride looks to be around $112 per person per day = $784. $784 * 5 = $3920. Say two rooms at $220 each for 7 days is another $3080. That's $7,000.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2023 05:57 PM (V1QHJ)

There aren't any Disney rooms available per night at that number anymore, unless you're getting a discount on a value...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 08, 2023 05:58 PM (exHjb)

337 Indy 5 has to make $800 million just to break even, which it will not do. Projections put it at about the same $790 million that Indiana Jones 4 made 15 years ago.
Posted by: ace at June 08, 2

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the media shills will be like "Indy 5 has made the same $ as indy 1 (based on blankly using numbers w/o inflation)"

Posted by: sockamster, master/hamster...the truth may shock you at June 08, 2023 05:58 PM (MLrvz)

338 I'm impressed that the word "mindflay" was used -- those mindflayers were difficult monster opponents in D&D.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 08, 2023 05:57 PM (ssESX)

Bah on the "Psionic" junk added to DnD. Leave that for that post armageddon RPG. Gamma World?

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 05:59 PM (eoQWY)

339 House votes to impeach. Senate holds the trial. The US Marshalls can arrest him for the impeachment trial.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at June 08, 2023 05:59 PM (CecP5)

340 I didn't like chick fil a chicken in the least. Had it once when it opened and they were a thing, that was enough.

Arby's chicken was probably the best at one point. And McDonald's chicken selects.

Posted by: ... at June 08, 2023 05:59 PM (lX8VI)

341 Fast food in general has gone to shit. And don’t get me started about the people working there.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 08, 2023 05:59 PM (6FB02)

342 If they think fake women are such a swell idea, why don't they start doing some minstrel shows?

Posted by: Peaches at June 08, 2023 05:59 PM (14URa)

343 'It's a bunch of malarkey': Biden LAUGHS off accusations he was part of a $5million bribery scheme with a foreign national - and jokes: 'Where's the money?'

Guy is as crooked as Bill Clinton's Dick.

Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2023 06:00 PM (1SYO0)

344 > Fast food in general has gone to shit. And don’t get me started about the people working there.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe

the people working there are why I don't go there

Posted by: DB - he gets the nod at June 08, 2023 06:00 PM (geLO8)

345 the media shills will be like "Indy 5 has made the same $ as indy 1 (based on blankly using numbers w/o inflation)"
Posted by: sockamster, master/hamster...the truth may shock you at June 08, 2023 05:58 PM (MLrvz)

The real secret is the supposed cost is just a guess at this point, what with the reshoots and such they did. It may well be considerably more expensive than advertised now.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 06:00 PM (eoQWY)

346 there is no coming back for Star Wars.

Posted by: ace at June 08, 2023 04:56 PM (KRtlO)

That's so sad. They remake the same stories all the time. Why can't they make the non-woke movie "remakes" of all the crap to replace it? We just all wake up together from the woke nightmare...

Posted by: Iris at June 08, 2023 06:00 PM (NaH5I)

347 @339 They've been in there since at least AD&D 3rd edition rules, the best rulebook in my opinion.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 08, 2023 06:00 PM (ssESX)

348
'It's a bunch of malarkey': Biden LAUGHS off accusations he was part of a $5million bribery scheme with a foreign national - and jokes: 'Where's the money?'

Posted by: DB - he gets the nod at June 08, 2023 05:58 PM

Biden then returned by limo to the $5 million dollar beach house he recently purchased.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 08, 2023 06:00 PM (enJYY)

349 Fast food in general has gone to shit.

It really has. Even the old reliables are just not good any more. Or maybe its just me getting older and tastes changing.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 06:00 PM (0hOvj)

350 Its hilarious how his power has grown over time, he barely can throw boxes around at Luke in Empire, and now movies have him demolishing armies and blowing things up.

That is how you ruin a superhero. In one of the Hulk movies, the Hulk survived a fall from near outer-space and later a nuclear explosion.

The first character I remember then ruining was Superman when in a fit of emotion he flew around the earth so fast that the rotation of the earth reversed.

When a character obtains that much power, like Doctor Manhattan, it ruins the movie completely because you have a Deus ex Machina for EVERY situation, no matter how difficult.

It show no imagination and sloppy thinking.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 08, 2023 06:00 PM (YXHzG)

351 Fast food fried chicken is all about knowing which part of town is the right balance of not too rough with people who take their friend chicken very seriously. Usually some good indie BBQ down the street too.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 08, 2023 06:00 PM (k1Qly)

352 People didn't like it when the cast spontaneously broke into song and dance in American musicals.

It can work, if you handle it right and don't overdo it. Bollywood kind of overdoes it, but they do it well.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 05:56 PM (0hOvj)

Hasn't worked since the 40s. Musicals are a box office bomb now.

Posted by: JmT at June 08, 2023 06:01 PM (ucixH)

353 Chicago beat 'em to it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 08, 2023 05:53 PM (YqDXo)

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Indeed, Jay, along with NYC.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 08, 2023 06:01 PM (TgamS)

354 135 108 how many times can you tell the exact same story?
Posted by: ace at June 08

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right...they do beat by beat recreations of Empire. or whatever.

the problem, which is what I've been saying for awhile, is that Disney has no actual talent. They're a bit like Adam Sandler who has his intern write a 1 page synopsis and then they'll film the next netflix excuse to travel with his buddies on that, just ad-libbing.

the difference being sandler movies cost about $2

disney, however, has a bunch of merit-free diversity hires and girl bosses who never wrote a page of dialog in their lives. and it costs $1,000,000,000 per movie.

Posted by: sockamster, master/hamster...the truth may shock you at June 08, 2023 06:01 PM (MLrvz)

355 'It's a bunch of malarkey': Biden LAUGHS off accusations he was part of a $5million bribery scheme with a foreign national - and jokes: 'Where's the money?'
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Totally normal for an innocent person to say "you can't find evidence of any money" when accused of improper conduct. Totally normal.

Not that anyone with two brain cells to rub together thinks he's innocent.

Posted by: ... at June 08, 2023 06:01 PM (lX8VI)

356 Does the KGB exist anymore? I thought they went the way of all the Stalin statues in the 90's

They became the Russian Mafia after the Soviet Union collapsed. Really, that is true.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at June 08, 2023 06:02 PM (CecP5)

357 The real secret is the supposed cost is just a guess at this point

It always is, that's why its always some perfectly rounded off number. "It cost 200 million to make!" not "It cost $197,832,010.45 to make!" Studios just don't release factual data, they let approximate estimates leak.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 06:02 PM (0hOvj)

358 Did any of Charles Bronson’s movies lose money? They looked like they were made for a carton of Winstons.
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Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 08, 2023 06:03 PM (Vwz3I)

359 Apparently Chinese scavengers are grave robbing and salvaging sunken WWII warships in the Pacific for the metal. Prince of Wales and Repulse among them.

https://bityl.co/J8gP

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2023 06:03 PM (aD39U)

360 If they think fake women are such a swell idea, why don't they start doing some minstrel shows?
Posted by: Peaches at June 08, 2023 05:59 PM (14URa)

"We wuz ona Disney crooz, an de weatha was so bad, we lived on eggs!"
"Why did you live on eggs for the bad weather?"
"Because when the winds got too fierce, the Captain he laid to every time!"

(The only minstrel show routine I can remember)

Posted by: Kindltot at June 08, 2023 06:03 PM (xhaym)

361 Leftists don't care about dumb shit like profits. profits are dirty.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at June 08, 2023 06:03 PM (nJ1bF)

362
Koo-koo banana-pants world

@Breaking911 44m
BREAKING: Parents Of Nashville School Shooter Want To Give Rights To Manifesto To Victims’ Parents

(This after at least on the victims' families said they don't want it released. )
Posted by: weft cut-loop

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Wait, do we want the thing released or don't we?

We do. I do. The parents of the shooter do.

But the parents of a victim don't?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2023 06:03 PM (lCaJd)

363 Tucker isn't backing down. Episode 2.

https://tinyurl.com/54a2swbz

Posted by: JackStraw channeling Bane at June 08, 2023 06:03 PM (ZLI7S)

364
The last time I went to a McDonald's neither the register person or I could understand what the other was saying. Don't need that level of not-giving-a-shit from a chain.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 08, 2023 06:03 PM (enJYY)

365
1. Burn the "legacy franchises" to the ground.
2. Hire straight, male writers.
3. Tell stories that inspire people. Or cruel Ace stories.

If they fail, they fail. Going down fighting beats mewling, screeching failure repeatard junk.

Posted by: Auspex at June 08, 2023 06:04 PM (j4U/Z)

366 Hasn't worked since the 40s. Musicals are a box office bomb now.

Yeah, I mean there are rare exceptions: Hamilton is a huge hit, Movies like Chicago made good money. But typically they bomb, even though Hollywood loves them.

But when you watch a Bollywood movie, its just fun and the music is really catchy. That dance/fight scene in RRR was really well done.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 06:04 PM (0hOvj)

367 Did any of Charles Bronson’s movies lose money? They looked like they were made for a carton of Winstons.

Posted by: Rev Dr Happy Hands

This is about us, isn't it.

Golan & Globus

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at June 08, 2023 06:04 PM (vEz+S)

368 May I recommend large doses of slap therapy to the Disney greeter?

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit! at June 08, 2023 06:04 PM (kUjcc)

369 358 Did any of Charles Bronson’s movies lose money? They looked like they were made for a carton of Winstons.

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if you watch any older movies, you may realize they're a lot shorter than today's movies. they had a few set-pieces and were done.

I think of the OE point break. they fit in a lot stuff around a few set pieces. but IIRC it's a short movie.

Posted by: sockamster, master/hamster...the truth may shock you at June 08, 2023 06:04 PM (MLrvz)

370 @339 They've been in there since at least AD&D 3rd edition rules, the best rulebook in my opinion.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 08, 2023 06:00 PM (ssESX)

They were in ADnD, early 80s. They were not, I don't think, in the original three book boxed set. They were Dragon Mag additions, I imagine. Just never set well, similarly with the various planes and plane denizens. Plate Mail and Pointy Hat wizards, that's enough please.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 06:05 PM (eoQWY)

371 That is how you ruin a superhero. In one of the Hulk movies, the Hulk survived a fall from near outer-space and later a nuclear explosion.

The first character I remember then ruining was Superman when in a fit of emotion he flew around the earth so fast that the rotation of the earth reversed.

When a character obtains that much power, like Doctor Manhattan, it ruins the movie completely because you have a Deus ex Machina for EVERY situation, no matter how difficult.

It show no imagination and sloppy thinking.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 08, 2023 06:00 PM (YXHzG)

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Exactly, and ditto for anything supernatural.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 08, 2023 06:05 PM (TgamS)

372 261 I'm not kidding when I say I could fly my family to the South Pacific for cheaper.

sure, but other than watching guam tip over, what is there to do?

Posted by: anachronda at June 08, 2023 06:05 PM (oY6Yp)

373 Next week they change Bippity Boppity Boop Salon to Song of the South Minstrel show. They'll dress up your youngin' in black face, and take them on a worldwide adventure with Uncle Remus. Fishn' trappin', and singling with the Country Bear Jamboree!

You're kids will love it!

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at June 08, 2023 06:05 PM (nJ1bF)

374 if you watch any older movies, you may realize they're a lot shorter than today's movies. they had a few set-pieces and were done.

Posted by: sockamster, master/hamster...the truth may shock you at June 08, 2023 06:04 PM (MLrvz)

The animated Little Mermaid is about half the length of the new movie.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 06:06 PM (eoQWY)

375 'It's a bunch of malarkey': Biden LAUGHS off accusations he was part of a $5million bribery scheme with a foreign national - and jokes: 'Where's the money?'

The whole point of the FD1023 is that it allows congress to tie the Banking Suspicious Activity reports on the Biden family to a specific bribery scheme. That is why the House wants that document from the FBI.

If Lying Joe is denying, you know its true.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at June 08, 2023 06:06 PM (CecP5)

376 tbh, tho...

I think the only parents willing to spend $500 on their kids to be made-over into pricessess are AWFL white women with too much money.

seems like a perfect match.

related note: in MoCo md, the Karen's were shocked to see their vaunted diversity import, replacement population types protesting...the tranns fests.

Posted by: sockamster, master/hamster...the truth may shock you at June 08, 2023 06:06 PM (MLrvz)

377 The last time I went to a McDonald's neither the register person or I could understand what the other was saying. Don't need that level of not-giving-a-shit from a chain.

Which is one of the reasons they're going to kiosks. You know, the things covered with feces.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 08, 2023 06:06 PM (eOEVl)

378 They looked like they were made for a carton of Winstons.

Well, that's the secret, isn't it? Some of the most entertaining movies ever were made on small budgets. Blair Witch project was made for a bus pass and a 2:1 Ross Dress for Less coupon and made tens of millions.

The movie budget bloat is outrageous lately. They made a few billion dollar successes and figured that was the norm, for some reason.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 06:06 PM (0hOvj)

379 Exactly, and ditto for anything supernatural.
Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 08, 2023 06:05 PM (TgamS)

Magic is okay if it obeys magic type laws. And it is a fantasy movie.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 08, 2023 06:06 PM (aD39U)

380 @367 wasn't the original Deathwish Jeff Goldbloom's first acting role?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 08, 2023 06:06 PM (ssESX)

381 375 'It's a bunch of malarkey': Biden LAUGHS off accusations he was part of a $5million bribery scheme with a foreign national - and jokes: 'Where's the money?'

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that husk of a man spends all day long in the basement of the money

Posted by: sockamster, master/hamster...the truth may shock you at June 08, 2023 06:06 PM (MLrvz)

382
That's his _hypothetical_ trial, right? That's IF both houses vote to impeach him, then he's tried, or something?

House impeaches. Senate holds the trial.
Posted by: JackStraw channeling Bane

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Well, House is now holding him in contempt. When does it impeach?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2023 06:07 PM (lCaJd)

383 > There aren't any Disney rooms available per night at that number anymore, unless you're getting a discount on a value...

I got that number on a search of Disney World hotel rooms. "Disney's Art of Animation Resort" has rooms at $221/night. "Disney's Art of Animation Resort" has them at $224/night. If you go outside of Disney hotels, you can get rooms for cheaper. "Drury Plaza Hotel Orlando - Disney Springs Area" has rooms at $144/night.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2023 06:07 PM (V1QHJ)

384 350 The first character I remember then ruining was Superman when in a fit of emotion he flew around the earth so fast that the rotation of the earth reversed.

When a character obtains that much power, like Doctor Manhattan, it ruins the movie completely because you have a Deus ex Machina for EVERY situation, no matter how difficult.

but you're glossing over the inherent power of rainbow kryptonite, and during pride month, too!

Posted by: anachronda at June 08, 2023 06:07 PM (oY6Yp)

385 Tucker Ep. 2 has dropped

Posted by: Grape Juice Plus at June 08, 2023 06:07 PM (ufJfM)

386 May I recommend large doses of slap therapy to the Disney greeter?

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit! at June 08, 2023 06:04 PM (kUjcc)

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Tire irons FTW!

[h/t Insomniac]

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 08, 2023 06:07 PM (TgamS)

387 if you watch any older movies, you may realize they're a lot shorter than today's movies. they had a few set-pieces and were done.

I am reasonably sure that the reason for the stupidly long movie lengths now is streaming. Success in streaming is measured by minutes watched.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 06:07 PM (0hOvj)

388 Well, House is now holding him in contempt. When does it impeach?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2023 06:07 PM (lCaJd)

Wray ? Didn't he hand over the goods today ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 08, 2023 06:08 PM (bs+z0)

389 Alias was my favorite for that shit. Tried it.

The organization was very powerful which gave the show's writers a Magic Fuck You Machine to get their characters out of any situation presented.

I got tired of it after seeing the Magic Fuck You Machine just one time.

Posted by: ... at June 08, 2023 06:08 PM (lX8VI)

390 Tucker Ep. 2 has dropped

Posted by: Grape Juice Plus at June 08, 2023 06:07 PM (ufJfM)

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Thanks for the heads-up.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 08, 2023 06:08 PM (TgamS)

391 >>If Lying Joe is denying, you know its true.

It's always been true. The only thing that was lacking was access to the evidence and now that wall seems to be coming down.

I'll say this again, the FBI has been sitting on this information since 2017 when the whistleblower first came to them. They knew all during the Russia hoax and the Ukraine hoax. It's not just Biden who is corrupt, the FBI/DOJ are right there with them.

Posted by: JackStraw channeling Bane at June 08, 2023 06:08 PM (ZLI7S)

392 383 > There aren't any Disney rooms available per night at that number anymore, unless you're getting a discount on a value...

I got that number on a search of Disney World hotel rooms. "Disney's Art of Animation Resort" has rooms at $221/night. "Disney's Art of Animation Resort" has them at $224/night. If you go outside of Disney hotels, you can get rooms for cheaper. "Drury Plaza Hotel Orlando - Disney Springs Area" has rooms at $144/night.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2023 06:07 PM (V1QHJ)

AoA is a value...

And I think the poster wanted "onsite" as a "Disney" vacation. Apparently, the "bubble" and "Disney transport" is a thing for a lot of folks, and they don't want offsite...it is inconvenient...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 08, 2023 06:08 PM (exHjb)

393 >> Biden LAUGHS off accusations he was part of a $5million bribery scheme with a foreign national - and jokes: 'Where's the money?'

Cocaine and Hookers ring a bell, Joe?

Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2023 06:09 PM (1SYO0)

394 Does Disney produce any content for boys?

As near as I can tell it's all for girls or faggots

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 08, 2023 06:09 PM (Zqeqr)

395 "There are rulers for linkers here?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke "

I thought the big rule was, don't click on the links! It's a trap!

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at June 08, 2023 06:09 PM (29o7K)

396
Wray ? Didn't he hand over the goods today ?
Posted by: It's me donna

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I heard somewhere he had caved and handed over the goods, so I don't get the contempt charge. The internet has misled me!!! Of all things.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 08, 2023 06:09 PM (lCaJd)

397 @342 And don’t get me started about the people working there.

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That's up to the management. Good management will have motivated employees. A lot of fast food management... isn't.

Posted by: junior at June 08, 2023 06:09 PM (dofLa)

398 393 >> Biden LAUGHS off accusations he was part of a $5million bribery scheme with a foreign national - and jokes: 'Where's the money?'

In an off shore account ? Dummy corporations... Grandkids accounts ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 08, 2023 06:10 PM (bs+z0)

399 I am reasonably sure that the reason for the stupidly long movie lengths now is streaming. Success in streaming is measured by minutes watched.

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newer stuff is being fluffed up to be a series.

smaller stuff (made by ppl who actually have talent) generally are only released as streaming movies now.

new, long as fuck movies seem to be just bloat to justify, in some way, a $20 movie ticket.

IDK how many times watching a movie, already being over it, and realizing there's an hour twenty left. Like, dude, edit.

Posted by: sockamster, master/hamster...the truth may shock you at June 08, 2023 06:10 PM (MLrvz)

400 disney, however, has a bunch of merit-free diversity hires and girl bosses who never wrote a page of dialog in their lives. and it costs $1,000,000,000 per movie. Posted by: sockamster, master/hamster...the truth may shock you at June 08, 2023 06:01 PM (MLrvz)

I watch She-hulk. How could ANYONE watch that and think "Yep, NAILED IT!" Instead of "WTF...Seriously, WTF?"

I can't even imagine merit-free diversity hires and girl bosses enjoying the experience.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at June 08, 2023 06:10 PM (nJ1bF)

401 Anybody who's been to Disneyland in Anaheim might have noticed that the rides have slowly been deteriorating for years. There's shit that's been broken almost since the mid 2000's, and they just blow it off. I haven't been there since the 90's, but remember back then that it was absolutely spotless. Now I'm told it's looking pretty rough in spots. A lot of effects on the rides no longer work, and in some places it really shows. Apparently the Indy ride is in real bad shape - even the crap to entertain in the (previously) long lines no longer functions.

It saddens me, I was a huge Disneyfile and was lucky enough to work with some of the giants in animation. I always used to say if I ever got a tattoo, it would be of Donald Duck. Glad I didn't, because I have little doubt he's going to be transitioning soon. They won't be happy until they've killed every last bit of IP they have. And I won't be happy until they're just a fond memory I can retcon the last 20 years out of.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 08, 2023 06:10 PM (zB/T/)

402 > 'It's a bunch of malarkey': Biden LAUGHS off accusations

malarkey is way worse than nonsense

Posted by: DB - he gets the nod at June 08, 2023 06:10 PM (geLO8)

403 When a character obtains that much power, like Doctor Manhattan, it ruins the movie completely because you have a Deus ex Machina for EVERY situation, no matter how difficult.

Superman started as a guy who could lift cars and jump over buildings. Then he started to get more and more powerful because his concept was: strongest, fastest, toughest, most powerful. He was the top end, no matter what anyone else came up with.

He also looked strong and fit but not super body builder giganatic. Then Frank Miller put out Dark Knight Returns with ripped Batman, and everyone made Superman even bigger.

Every so often someone dials back Superman's power level, but it creeps up again over time. It was the Silver Age that gave him stuff like ice breath, just adding new powers every few issues because who the hell cared, it was just dumb stuff for kids.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 06:10 PM (0hOvj)

404 Hasn't worked since the 40s. Musicals are a box office bomb now.

Moulin Rouge was a big hit.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at June 08, 2023 06:11 PM (CecP5)

405 >>I'll say this again, the FBI has been sitting on this information since 2017 when the whistleblower first came to them. They knew all during the Russia hoax and the Ukraine hoax. It's not just Biden who is corrupt, the FBI/DOJ are right there with them.

There would also HAVE to be other Lawmakers involved. Obama, Clinton and other Cabinet Level Officials and at least a few Congresspeople.

Posted by: garrett at June 08, 2023 06:11 PM (1SYO0)

406 350 The first character I remember then ruining was Superman when in a fit of emotion he flew around the earth so fast that the rotation of the earth reversed.

but you're glossing over the inherent power of rainbow kryptonite, and during pride month, too!
Posted by: anachronda at June 08, 2023 06:07 PM (oY6Yp)

Well technically he moved so fast he went back in time (hence the earth spinning the other way) so he could keep Lois from dying or whatever. But time travel is just another of the many 'get out of jail free' card that replace decent writing in a movie series.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 06:11 PM (eoQWY)

407 Nood skull in a box

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 08, 2023 06:11 PM (VdN7z)

408 > Does Disney produce any content for boys?

This is exactly why Disney bought Star Wars. Disney is mostly seen as a Princess brand. They wanted to balance that brand image out.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2023 06:11 PM (V1QHJ)

409 >>There would also HAVE to be other Lawmakers involved. Obama, Clinton and other Cabinet Level Officials and at least a few Congresspeople.

Oh yea. Including McCain and Graham.

Posted by: JackStraw channeling Bane at June 08, 2023 06:13 PM (ZLI7S)

410 Jeff Goldblum played "Freak #1" in Death Wish

Posted by: DB - he gets the nod at June 08, 2023 06:13 PM (geLO8)

411 340 Arby's chicken was probably the best at one point. And McDonald's chicken selects.

my gripe locally with mcdonald's is that when i order a mcchicken sandwich they invariably give me a spicy mcchicken.

Posted by: anachronda at June 08, 2023 06:13 PM (oY6Yp)

412 Every so often someone dials back Superman's power level, but it creeps up again over time. It was the Silver Age that gave him stuff like ice breath, just adding new powers every few issues because who the hell cared, it was just dumb stuff for kids.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 06:10 PM (0hOvj)

Yeah Supes is by definition stronger/better than everything aside from Kryptonite, so his stories tend to be less interesting since you need to devise reasons he just can't overpower everyone and win.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 06:15 PM (eoQWY)

413 In contrast, I watched Werewolf by night, and it was great. Actual talented actors, and story, with a weird focus on old black and white and horror hammer movies.

But it was co-written by the creator of The Punisher character in comics. Aka, someone who know how to craft story and dialogue.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at June 08, 2023 06:15 PM (nJ1bF)

414 if you watch any older movies, you may realize they're a lot shorter than today's movies. they had a few set-pieces and were done.

Posted by: sockamster, master/hamster...the truth may shock you at June 08, 2023 06:04 PM (MLrvz)

You're not the only one to notice this, and somebody studied why: https://tinyurl.com/2s3jcftw

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 08, 2023 06:16 PM (zB/T/)

415 This is exactly why Disney bought Star Wars. Disney is mostly seen as a Princess brand. They wanted to balance that brand image out.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 08, 2023 06:11 PM (V1QHJ)

Kinda really dumb then to turn all the stars in that brand to princesses, then.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 08, 2023 06:16 PM (eoQWY)

416
because who the hell cared, it was just dumb stuff for kids.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 06:10 PM (0hOvj)

Now the kids get tranny stuff and adults are emotionally invested in dumb.

Posted by: Auspex at June 08, 2023 06:17 PM (j4U/Z)

417 Biden LAUGHS off accusations he was part of a $5million bribery scheme with a foreign national - and jokes: 'Where's the money?'

In an off shore account ? Dummy corporations... Grandkids accounts ?
Posted by: It's me donna

President Joe Biden needs the Hot Needle of Inquiry to supply answers!

Posted by: Speaker to Animals at June 08, 2023 06:18 PM (vcOmj)

418
234: it’s fast food, not Ruth’s Chris.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

The Ruth’s Chris Steak House chain is being acquired by Darden Restaurants for about $715 million.

Darden Restaurants Inc. owns Olive Garden, LongHorn Steakhouse, Yard House, Cheddar’s Scratch Kitchen, The Capital Grille, Seasons 52, Bahama Breeze and Eddie V’s.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 08, 2023 06:18 PM (63Dwl)

419 clutch glad you didn't get a tattoo. Tattoos are bad.

Posted by: JmT at June 08, 2023 06:19 PM (ucixH)

420 When you go bankrupt, you don't sell the rubbish in the backyard, you hock the family jewels.

Lucas film is pretty tarnished.

My guess - Disneyworld. They could get several billion easy for that. Sell to Universal, who's parks have been killing it lately and is right next door. Oh, and the legal fight with Florida ends.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at June 08, 2023 06:21 PM (nJ1bF)

421 22 Disney has been known for gouging greed and treating people horrible forever. They would go after small businesses for a picture of a Disney character in an ad, they would bust artists for painting a Disney character. They grossly overcharge in Disneyland for everything. Its an evil corporation that is finally facing consequences for their behavior. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 08, 2023 04:56 PM (0hOvj)

I was going to take my kids to Disneyland a long time ago - I looked at the prices, and the lines, and opted for Knotts Berry Farm. Saved $1,000 and had a terrific time.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at June 08, 2023 06:23 PM (nJ1bF)

422 I'm impressed that you remembered the dialogue. You must have liked that cartoon too?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 08, 2023 05:48 PM (Keyt1)

Just got back in from working on the sprinkler system.

I just remembered the general flow and then dug around UToob for a clip with the missing bit:

https://youtu.be/YoY6qKxDGY0?t=128

I'll readily admit to owning the Looney Toons set.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 08, 2023 06:25 PM (ZSK0i)

423 DeSanits buys Disney and renames it Dysentery.

Posted by: Comrade Roboto at June 08, 2023 06:25 PM (nJ1bF)

424
I am so looking forward to the film version of Disney's fall from grace. Its title should be "Ratfucked".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Your Gateway to Bismarck, ND (TM) at June 08, 2023 06:36 PM (pNxlR)

425 Why does Hulu have such a high valuation?

If this is valid, and Disney doesn't have the cash, then they would have to pay in Disney stock. Might Comcast end up owning Disney?

Posted by: MikeN at June 08, 2023 10:45 PM (XygMV)

426 >you make an appointment for your little one (I've done boys and girls!) to be turned into either a Prince or a Princess

Sigh. This is one of the problems with modern childrens' fiction, and it's been going on a lot longer than you think.

*Girls'* stories are Cinderella. *Boys'* stories are Gilgamesh. You become a princess by getting free stuff from a fairy godmother. You become a prince by going out and defeating something evil and protecting your kingdom.

One of the reasons Harry Potter was so popular with girls as well as boys is that it's actually Cinderella; Potter doesn't have very much agency, various adults pretty much give him everything he needs, and he was the Chosen One from birth. Childrens' fiction publishers have been following this model and now we have ten year old boys going to a salon to become a prince instead of picking up a sword and getting sh*t done.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at June 08, 2023 11:00 PM (aLjKh)

427 Trump should buy Star Wars.

Posted by: ChrisW at June 09, 2023 12:38 AM (PEgT0)

428

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Posted by: Cindy Fry at June 09, 2023 07:50 AM (8pVGb)

429 In the last 12 months Disney made 27 billion in profits. They have about 8 billion cash in hand

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