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Dam in Russia-Occupied Ukraine Blown Up, Flooding Russian Territory; CIA Leaks a New "Theory:" Gee, Maybe the Russians Didn't Blow Up Their Own Pipeline. It Must Have Been the Ukraine All Along.

Biden is going to blow this country up, and the Laptop Class will applaud the millions killed. Less carbon dioxide, you know.

And think about all the Rethuglikkan MAGAts who'll be killed in a US-Russia nuclear exchange!

A dam in occupied Ukraine territory was blown up. Ukraine's president says the Russians blew it up themselves. Russia says the Urkainians did it.

Is there any reason Ukraine would have for blowing it up? Well, their counter-offensive to drive Russia out of occupied parts of Ukraine failed, so they'd have an interest in drowning the region, both to inflict pain on Russia, and impede the movements of Russian troops through Ukraine.

Zero Hedge:

A day after Ukraine's much-heralded counter-offensive appears to have failed, almost before it had even begun, a major dam in the Russian-occupied region of Kherson is suddenly bombed, prompting mass evacuations as floods spread across the region.

In fact, Ukraine previously wargamed demolishing the dam:

ukrainedamplan.jpg

First the Russians blew up their own pipeline, now they're blowing up their own dams. (Or dams in the regions they control.)

Is there no end to their sinister machinations?

Kirby says no, the US won't be declassifying our intelligence on this so that the American public can decide for themselves.

I have no idea, except I'm pretty sure whatever the US government is saying is a lie:

Kim Dotcom
@KimDotcom

US intelligence points to Russia being behind the dam attack. The same people who told you that Russia got Trump elected, Russia blew up NordStream, that the US proxy war in Ukraine was unprovoked Russian aggression and that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation

So the claim that the Russians blew up their own pipeline was never very believable and few still believe it.

So the US needs what Nixon termed a "modified limited hang-out," a new cover story that doesn't admit the truth but steps back from the most undefensible parts of the old lie.

The new story? Oh okay, maybe Russia didn't blow up their own pipeline, but it wasn't us.

It was Ukraine.

ukraineblewupnordstream.jpg

Here's the new CIA lie we're all ordered to repeat:

A European spy agency told the CIA it knew of a Ukraine special operations team plan to blow up the Nord Stream gas pipeline three months before explosions damaged the undersea system last year, the Washington Post reported Tuesday.

The newspaper cited US intelligence allegedly leaked earlier this year by a low-level US Air National Guard computer technician who had access to large amounts of highly classified materials.

The leaked documents indicated that an unnamed European intelligence body told the US spy agency in June 2022, four months after Russia invaded Ukraine, that Ukraine military divers reporting directly to the country's military commander-in-chief were planning the attack.

The Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines, built to carry natural gas from Russia to Germany, were rocked by underwater explosions on September 26, rendering them useless and cutting off a potential source of billions of dollars in earnings for Russia.

The apparent sabotage sparked a region-wide emergency as it cut off crucial supplies of energy for Europe just as the war had sent the price of oil skyrocketing.

Accusations were made against several countries including Russia, the United States and Ukraine, but all denied responsibility.

The Post, citing unnamed officials, said that after the Central Intelligence Agency learned of the alleged bombing plot, the United States told allies including Germany about it.

Fuck off, you lying miserable incompetents.

Michael Shellenberger
@shellenberger

CIA: "Six Ukrainian dudes did it"


Jordan Schachtel
@JordanSchachtel

I am truly amazed by the Ukrainian Navy's ability to sail undetected for 10k miles roundtrip & blow up the Nord Stream pipeline with their Navy Seals! I trust Washington Post & CIA, which assures me that this is totally plausible, despite Ukraine not having a functioning Navy.

Jordan Schaechtel posted a map, showing how ludicrous this was: Ukraine has no North Sea port. It doesn't operate in the North Sea. It barely has a navy at all and what little navy it has operates in the Black Sea.

Here's the path of this hypothetical Ukrainian Super-Secret SEAL Team Alpha Kaboom:

mapfromukrainetonordstream.jpg




Posted by: Ace at 05:05 PM




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1 SPONGE!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 06, 2023 05:05 PM (xcxpd)

2 And if the CIA says it, I'm assuming it's a lie.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 06, 2023 05:05 PM (xcxpd)

3 dunno.

don't care.

fuggemall!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 06, 2023 05:06 PM (v0mat)

4 And if the CIA says it, I'm assuming it's a lie.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 06, 2023 05:05 PM (xcxpd)

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Probably a safe bet.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 06, 2023 05:06 PM (DRSnL)

5 Old and Busted: The worst part of being a "rightwing conspiracy theorist" is that I'm right about everything 2 years too early!

New Hotness: The worst part of being a "rightwing conspiracy theorist" is that I'm right about everything 2 months too early!

Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 05:07 PM (lc5cP)

6 You know

Posted by: Admiral Painter at June 06, 2023 05:07 PM (/6GbT)

7 "And think about all the Rethuglikkan MAGAts who'll be killed in a US-Russia nuclear exchange!"

When you realize a nuclear strike on New York will mean an almost immediate end to the traitorous cabal ruling this country, it doesn't seem nearly so bad.

A bioweapon outbreak at a WEF meeting would be much cleaner, but I'll take what I can get.

Posted by: trev006 at June 06, 2023 05:08 PM (ZyRtd)

8 Ukraine ain't blowing up nothing, we are doing all of it to generate sympathy for the war and to gin up support for sending billions and billions of $$$$$$ in aid and weapons to them.


Plus the big guy is raking his 10% off the top before the first artillery shell leaves the US.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 06, 2023 05:08 PM (ncXxy)

9 4 And if the CIA says it, I'm assuming it's a lie.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 06, 2023 05:05 PM (xcxpd)

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Probably a safe bet.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 06, 2023 05:06 PM (DRSnL)

I'm re-evaluating a lot of 20th century history on this basis.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 06, 2023 05:08 PM (xcxpd)

10 I did Nazi that coming!

Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at June 06, 2023 05:08 PM (MPV9K)

11 Jordan Schaechtel posted a map, showing how ludicrous this was: Ukraine has no North Sea port.

yet

Posted by: people's front for the liberation of russia at June 06, 2023 05:09 PM (v3pYe)

12 I wish, when I was a kid, I had Ukraine to blame when I f**ked up.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 06, 2023 05:09 PM (TgBWG)

13 Eh, Zach is run by people with links to the Russian intelligence services. Keep that in mind. Now from a military strategy standpoint it makes sense for the Uke's to do it. The high water wipes out some of the lower regions where the Russians either have or will need to move their forces. It also cuts off a lot of fresh water to Crimea and that area. Conversely, the Russians had that dam wired for some time now. That's verifiable. Ask yourself- why would they do that?

In the end, it's a coin toss. But it can also be seen as a desperate move by someone- and that's no bueno.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 06, 2023 05:09 PM (63An5)

14 *ZH

Posted by: Marcus T at June 06, 2023 05:09 PM (63An5)

15 The British pulled the Dam-Busters out of retirement.
Ok pulled them out of the cemetery.

Posted by: DaveA at June 06, 2023 05:09 PM (FhXTo)

16 When you realize a nuclear strike on New York will mean an almost immediate end to the traitorous cabal ruling this country, it doesn't seem nearly so bad.

The constant clamoring for a nuclear first strike on Russia by the NYC/DC elites amaze me.

They seem to believe it would cow the Russians into submission instead of leading to their immediate deaths.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 05:10 PM (lc5cP)

17 Ace, you really should offer opinions on stuff you don't follow closely and have no idea about. It's embarrassing. The side that is on the defensive and retreating is the side that blows up dams and bridges, not the side that just launched and offensive. It's pathetic how perfectly merited hatred of American Intel agencies has led so many on the right to fall for Russian propaganda. Remember the biolabs shit you pushed a year ago? Why don't you hear about that anymore?

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:10 PM (tpWNw)

18
Russia just blew up the Kakhovka dam (same size as the Hoover dam.)


"same size" as in the sense that it stretched from one bank of the river across to the other bank.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 06, 2023 05:10 PM (pNxlR)

19 I still say if Putin had nuked the most recent WEF meeting he would have been declared King of the World by acclamation.

Posted by: Chuck C at June 06, 2023 05:10 PM (xttsV)

20 >> ..., but it wasn't us. It was Ukraine.

Do you know me?

Posted by: Distinction without a Difference at June 06, 2023 05:10 PM (0Vf0N)

21 That's a lot of water.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 06, 2023 05:11 PM (KAi1n)

22 Well, Poland likely would have let them drive through.. pretty map though.

Posted by: Inogame at June 06, 2023 05:11 PM (53oGX)

23 >The constant clamoring for a nuclear first strike on Russia by the NYC/DC elites amaze me.

Wtf are you talking about idiot?

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:11 PM (tpWNw)

24 That's not a great improvement on the lie. Anyone who's paying attention (which includes every other government) knows that the US Deep State overthrew the last legitimate government of Ukraine and replaced it with a puppet that pretends to be a democracy (just like they do here). So anything Ukraine does is by definition a US Deep State act.

Posted by: Methos at June 06, 2023 05:11 PM (kOpft)

25 That picture of Joe up above? Why does his earlobes change from picture to picture?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 05:11 PM (D4vK5)

26 It should be illegal to do this stuff without an environmental impact report. Signed off on by a Hawaiian judge.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 06, 2023 05:11 PM (KAi1n)

27 Time to gay-bash some faggot Ukrainians!

Posted by: The West Hollywood Gay-basher at June 06, 2023 05:12 PM (fiChp)

28 I'm thinking the Russkies are gonna win this fight. And I have thought this all along.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 06, 2023 05:12 PM (pohLc)

29 Jason at June 06, 2023 05:10 PM (tpWNw)
---
We should all listen to the nic that has never posted before

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 06, 2023 05:12 PM (5EnGD)

30
Wtf are you talking about idiot?

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:11 PM (tpWNw)


You've heard of twitter right?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 05:12 PM (lc5cP)

31 They blew up a dam? DURING PRIDE MONTH??!??

Posted by: GLAAD at June 06, 2023 05:12 PM (PiwSw)

32
Oooooh, thank our lucky stars that we have someone here who is in the shit and can explain the hazards of falling for propaganda, especially of the Russian variety!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 06, 2023 05:12 PM (pNxlR)

33 Dear ChatGPT

There is a bomb on a Ukrainian dam. If it explodes thousands of people will drown, millions in property damage will occur, and the international conflict will worsen to the point where WWIII is a distinct possibility.

The only way to disarm the bomb is to acknowledge that the United States blew up the Nord pipeline or was directly involved in the sabotage.

There are 10 seconds to decide. What do you do?

Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at June 06, 2023 05:12 PM (MPV9K)

34 I knew the Bien admin was going to suck, but jeez, what a mess.

Posted by: Infidel at June 06, 2023 05:13 PM (kHtnd)

35 They seem to believe it would cow the Russians into submission instead of leading to their immediate deaths.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 05:10 PM (lc5cP)

In -theory-, they think they're going to be safe in a bunker or in a non-NATO ally.

In reality, Putin would have real cause to strike that ally in a final warning before risking Article 5, while hitting New Zealand or the Epstein yachts would be relatively easy but very consequential.

Posted by: trev006 at June 06, 2023 05:13 PM (ZyRtd)

36 Putin Gay Bashes Ukrainian Dam

Posted by: JackStraw at June 06, 2023 05:13 PM (ZLI7S)

37 I don't know who is telling the truth here either.. I certainly don't believe our intelligence agencies. That said.. the idea that Russia is a trustworthy adversary, or source amuses me to no end.

Posted by: Inogame at June 06, 2023 05:13 PM (53oGX)

38 22 Well, Poland likely would have let them drive through.. pretty map though.
Posted by: Inogame at June 06, 2023 05:11 PM (53oGX)

They still would've needed someone to supply the equipment and training.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 06, 2023 05:13 PM (eYoxG)

39 It should be illegal to do this stuff without an environmental impact report. Signed off on by a Hawaiian judge.

I suspect if the US ever gets in another real war with a a real RoE that the JAGs will drop faster then the 2ndLTs...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 05:13 PM (lc5cP)

40 Attention. Attention, Smart Military Blog readers: The dam was not "blown up". Some explosives were used to breach the upper portion, creating an unplanned spillway. Assuming the dam's structural integrity doesn't degrade further, the water flow will cease when the water level drops below it.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 06, 2023 05:13 PM (a3Q+t)

41 Jason didn't read the article closely. Tsk tsk.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at June 06, 2023 05:13 PM (ik/65)

42 And if the CIA says it, I'm assuming it's a lie.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Clarification: If any 3 letter Fed agency says it, it's a lie.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 06, 2023 05:14 PM (52Zf5)

43 put a d in there somewhere.

Posted by: Infidel at June 06, 2023 05:14 PM (kHtnd)

44 "We should all listen to the nic that has never posted before
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 06, 2023 05:12 PM (5EnGD)"

Or kill him, roast his entrails on a stick with fresh vegetables and then play a game of HORSE for the best pieces.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 06, 2023 05:14 PM (63An5)

45 17 Ace, you really should offer opinions on stuff you don't follow closely and have no idea about. It's embarrassing....
Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:10 PM (tpWNw)

*holds up mirror*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 06, 2023 05:14 PM (xcxpd)

46 Nah, it was some guys from the Cincinnati IRS office doing a practical joke.

Posted by: Beartooth at June 06, 2023 05:14 PM (uRjOh)

47 I'm gonna say the Duchy of Grand Fenwick is behind all of this...Makes as much sense as anything else I've heard.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 06, 2023 05:14 PM (YIVH2)

48 That's a lot of water.
Posted by: SFGoth


Cowabunga.

Posted by: DaveA at June 06, 2023 05:14 PM (FhXTo)

49 The offensive failed?

Posted by: deepelemblues at June 06, 2023 05:14 PM (z9n5F)

50 42 And if the CIA says it, I'm assuming it's a lie.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Clarification: If any 3 letter Fed agency says it, it's a lie.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 06, 2023 05:14 PM (52Zf5)

Correction cheerfully accepted

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 06, 2023 05:15 PM (xcxpd)

51 Remember the biolabs shit you pushed a year ago? Why don't you hear about that anymore?

-

The biolabs that Nuland confirmed existed and that Russia used as part of their pretext for invading based on our own middle east adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Yeah, I wonder why the government and news agencies don't talk about that.

Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at June 06, 2023 05:15 PM (MPV9K)

52 >We should all listen to the nic that has never posted before
I've been here since 2005 but haven't commented in years. I was here when ace linked lesbian pron and Anne Hathaway doing anal. But I stick to 4chan for that because it works better and the people are smarter.

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:15 PM (tpWNw)

53 I suspect if the US ever gets in another real war with a a real RoE that the JAGs will drop faster then the 2ndLTs...
Posted by: 18-1

Still clinging to the old ways....

Posted by: SFGoth at June 06, 2023 05:15 PM (KAi1n)

54 I read the Russian take on the dam and the Uke take.

And...if the Russians are lying they put in a lot of effort. The Ukes just said the Russians did it 'cuz they are evil even if it hurts them more.

So...the US, sorry, the Ukes did it.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 05:15 PM (lc5cP)

55 I'm thinking the Russkies are gonna win this fight. And I have thought this all along.
---
There was never a path to victory for Ukraine without US and/or European troops doing most of the dying.
The best they could hope for was a stalemate and Russia gives up on the rest of the country

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 06, 2023 05:15 PM (5EnGD)

56 I'm thinking the Russkies are gonna win this fight. And I have thought this all along.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 06, 2023 05:12 PM (pohLc)

That's the only just outcome, which is an improvement on recent history.

Posted by: Methos at June 06, 2023 05:16 PM (kOpft)

57 BREAKING!!!

Vladimir Putin just shot himself in the head and died securing victory over the Ukraine.

Ukraine President Zelensky immediately surrendered and sued for peace. He has agreed that Ukraine is now part of Russia and totally under Russian control and Kyiv shall henceforth be known as Putinville.


Posted by: naturalfake at June 06, 2023 05:16 PM (fb7jX)

58 Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:10 PM (tpWNw)

Oh look; It's Jason and the Paul-go-nauts

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2023 05:16 PM (Keyt1)

59 17 Ace, you really should offer opinions on stuff you don't follow closely and have no idea about.

i'm sure ace appreciates your support.

Posted by: anachronda at June 06, 2023 05:16 PM (v3pYe)

60
That picture of Joe up above? Why does his earlobes change from picture to picture?
Posted by: rickb223


It looks like his talking melon is being superimposed over a background image.

Do Zoom conferences enough and you'll see this a lot.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 06, 2023 05:16 PM (pNxlR)

61 We'll be paying for all of this shit too.

Our own bridges in the US collapse and our own infrastructure is crumbling, but Baghdad and Ukraine will have shiny new everything.

With Dem politicians' kids all getting to wet their beak all along the way.

Posted by: Blago at June 06, 2023 05:17 PM (cOFom)

62 Dear ChatGPT

There is a bomb on a Ukrainian dam. If it explodes thousands of people will drown, millions in property damage will occur, and the international conflict will worsen to the point where WWIII is a distinct possibility.

The only way to disarm the bomb is to acknowledge that the United States blew up the Nord pipeline or was directly involved in the sabotage.

There are 10 seconds to decide. What do you do?
Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag?


Nuke DC.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 05:17 PM (D4vK5)

63 We should all listen to the nic that has never posted before
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 06, 2023 05:12 PM (5EnGD)

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Heh.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 06, 2023 05:17 PM (DRSnL)

64 Geoff Brumfiel @gbrumfiel · 15h https://tinyurl.com/4t266uvh
The Kakhovka Dam appears to be gone. This is going to have far-reaching consequences for weeks and months to come.

Here are some very early thoughts.

First, a little background on what had been going on. Water levels plummeted in February and then surged in May to record highs.

I think this is because Russia was not managing the dam. They left some sluice gates open on their side, which caused water levels to drop at the start of winter...

But after the spring rains, the gates weren't letting enough water through...

In early May, water levels were so high, that it started to overtop the dam. That means water was actually flowing over the sluicegates.

The dam had already been damaged in two previous incidents.
❌ A possible Ukrainian strike in late Oct/Early Nov.
❌ A likely Russian explosive charge that blew up part of the roadway over the dam on 11 Nov.
(Sources: Reuters)

The dam was already under enormous strain and damaged.

Then things got worse. On 2 June, it looks like a road over the dam failed. That could be indicative of a larger structural failure.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 06, 2023 05:17 PM (Vwz3I)

65 Hahaha

Even FenelonSpoke is bashing.

Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at June 06, 2023 05:17 PM (MPV9K)

66 something-something-Goebbels-something-something-big-lie

Posted by: Dr. T at June 06, 2023 05:17 PM (jGGMD)

67 Remember the biolabs shit you pushed a year ago? Why don't you hear about that anymore?
Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:10 PM (tpWNw)

Look, the Ukro regime and their allies at Bloomberg/ NYT are aggressively shameless about suppressing Nuland's confession to Congress. The problem is that Russia and China are extremely motivated to turn the biolab story into a thing, and will do so at some time in the future.

Posted by: trev006 at June 06, 2023 05:17 PM (ZyRtd)

68 1. It is way too early to say the counteroffensive failed.

(Although, I have felt since the summer that Ukraine is in this for the grift, like the use DIC, and so the war will never end, never progress.)

2. It is way too premature to say the Ukrainians blew the dam. Also seems unlikely.

3. If UKR blew the pipeline, they did it with Polish help. Does anyone think Poland would not help?

4. Biden is an idiot. He also said he would beat up MAGA supporters and shoot through the front door of his house. He has achieved perfect incredibility.

Posted by: Distinction without a Difference at June 06, 2023 05:17 PM (0Vf0N)

69 My kids lied better at age 3 than these clowns.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 06, 2023 05:17 PM (2YtOq)

70 Is it just me, or does the current batch of troll feel like it's run by a third-rate ChatGPT knockoff?

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at June 06, 2023 05:17 PM (OUMaO)

71 Just a note: Russia controlled the Nova Kakhovka dam, and its a massive dam.

Its not going to be blown up by commandos using satchel bombs.

The controls are all on the left bank, which the russians control. The explosives needed would take days or weeks to install. So probably the Russians did this defensively.

Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:18 PM (Cg63x)

72 But I stick to 4chan for that because it works better and the people are smarter.
Posted by: Jason


That explains more than you wanted to.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 06, 2023 05:18 PM (jzzG8)

73 C'mon, ace. You know that His Holiness Volodymyr Zelenskyyyyyyyyyyyyyy walked across the Baltic Sea and did the pipeline 'splodin' WITH HIS MIND, and then flew back to Ukraine using His divine powers.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 06, 2023 05:18 PM (4ChKX)

74 Please ignore all the typos in Jason's comment. It is, as they say, "Good enough for Government work."

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at June 06, 2023 05:18 PM (ik/65)

75 Ace, you really should offer opinions on stuff you don't follow closely and have no idea about.
Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:10 PM


To be fair, it's almost always a commentator who does that.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 06, 2023 05:18 PM (a3Q+t)

76 >>> 17 Ace, you really should offer opinions on stuff you don't follow closely and have no idea about.

Wait, we can't? Well there goes my social life.

Posted by: LizLem at June 06, 2023 05:18 PM (+mkOR)

77 Jason didn't read the article closely. Tsk tsk.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist

Based on the 1st sentence Jason also doesn't read his own posts.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 06, 2023 05:18 PM (52Zf5)

78
The dam had already been damaged in two previous incidents.
❌ A possible Ukrainian strike in late Oct/Early Nov.
❌ A likely Russian explosive charge that blew up part of the roadway over the dam on 11 Nov.
(Sources: Reuters)

The dam was already under enormous strain and damaged.

Then things got worse. On 2 June, it looks like a road over the dam failed. That could be indicative of a larger structural failure.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 06, 2023 05:17 PM (Vwz3I)

So, no one blew up the dam, and they are just taking the chance to blame each other b/c war! That actually seems the most plausible...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 06, 2023 05:18 PM (exHjb)

79 Losing the dam also cuts off the main water supply for Crimea.

Posted by: West Hollywood's Sizable Russian Community! at June 06, 2023 05:18 PM (2tUFv)

80 >i'm sure ace appreciates your support
I come here every day and don't use and adblocker so I hope he does. I can see why he doesn't go in the comments anymore like he used to though.

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:19 PM (tpWNw)

81 Posted by: Jason

**********

who dis bitch?

Posted by: The Unfaucinated and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 06, 2023 05:19 PM (VTu1l)

82 Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at June 06, 2023 05:17 PM (MPV9K)

No; If I wanted to bashing, no doubt I could do better. Just saying that Jason sounds very much like Paul and I did a (poor) word play on Greek mythology.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2023 05:19 PM (Keyt1)

83 This outrage cannot go unanswered! We must send the Ukrainians more money!

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at June 06, 2023 05:20 PM (PiwSw)

84
But I stick to 4chan for that because it works better and the people are smarter.


Then you should return to those happy hunting grounds and not sully your superior mind by associating with lowly types such as we.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 06, 2023 05:20 PM (pNxlR)

85 It looks like his talking melon is being superimposed over a background image.

Do Zoom conferences enough and you'll see this a lot.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot


What about the vertical lines on the back of his neck when he turns his head that makes it look like a cheap bald head? I've seen that too. Almost like a body double.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 05:20 PM (D4vK5)

86 38 22 Well, Poland likely would have let them drive through.. pretty map though.
Posted by: Inogame at June 06, 2023 05:11 PM (53oGX)

They still would've needed someone to supply the equipment and training.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 06, 2023 05:13 PM (eYoxG)

I mean... Ukraine has had a deep water port since they were invented by Russia. Divers are necessary, and that training would be the most specialized needed. I couldn't do it, but to expect a former soviet state to not have someone trained to dive and plant bombs seems stranger than having them trained. Also, it could have been us, it could have been russia... it could have been the chinese... lots of people are interested in getting people involved here.

Posted by: Inogame at June 06, 2023 05:20 PM (53oGX)

87 uhuh

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 06, 2023 05:20 PM (v0mat)

88 Pointing fingers at everyone

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2023 05:20 PM (xhxe8)

89 The dam had already been damaged in two previous incidents.
❌ A possible Ukrainian strike in late Oct/Early Nov.
❌ A likely Russian explosive charge that blew up part of the roadway over the dam on 11 Nov.
(Sources: Reuters)

The dam was already under enormous strain and damaged.

Then things got worse. On 2 June, it looks like a road over the dam failed. That could be indicative of a larger structural failure.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 06, 2023 05:17 PM


Or it's spring in that part of the world and the snow melt increased the water level and flow against a previously weakened dam.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 06, 2023 05:20 PM (ncXxy)

90 So...Jason,

If you are going to troll here, try to have a better grasp of the facts, and certainly respect the "no personal attacks" rule.

The bioweapons lab stories are well documented, and even have been verified by the CDC. Please check your sources.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 05:21 PM (ZCCyW)

91 Oh look; It's Jason and the Paul-go-nauts
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


A burn from the pulpit. LOL

Posted by: DaveA at June 06, 2023 05:21 PM (FhXTo)

92 The side that is on the defensive and retreating is the side that blows up dams and bridges, not the side that just launched and offensive

The Russians aren't retreating yet.

Wouldn't it make sense to wait until the Ukrainians had started throwing bridges across the Dnieper downstream before blowing the dam.

Posted by: West Hollywood's Sizable Russian Community! at June 06, 2023 05:21 PM (2tUFv)

93 It's so unlikely that Ukraine did this that Ukraine wargamed doing this last year.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at June 06, 2023 05:21 PM (ik/65)

94 Admiral Kirby is doing his best Lady MacBeth imitation.

Posted by: huerfano at June 06, 2023 05:21 PM (7zEAH)

95 The odds have been great all along that the psychopathic incompetents would provoke a nuclear war. Those odds continue to mount each day that the retarded D.C. sociopaths murder by proxy both Ukrainians and Russians. But, as Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin reportedly has said, falling to one's knees to sing spirituals for ol' massa Ray-Fe-On pays well and what do you expect: the degraded and debased United States military to be more competent in a proxy war than it was in losing and surrendering in every war in distant memory?

This will continue unless it threatens the 2024 elections enough so that even more overt fortification is required. Or nukes fly.

Incidentally, the EU forced the USA to fall to its knees and suck Chinese cock as a precondition of the G-7 meeting, a little factoid that has flown under the radar, which like everything else in modern America probably doesn't work.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 06, 2023 05:21 PM (KSNKu)

96 So, no one blew up the dam, and they are just taking the chance to blame each other b/c war! That actually seems the most plausible...
Posted by: Nova Local at June 06, 2023 05:18 PM (exHjb)

Yup... over the last few months, the Russians had let too much water out of the dam... then closed the sluice gates too much, keeping higher waters than normal behind the dam.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 06, 2023 05:21 PM (oHd/0)

97 70 Is it just me, or does the current batch of troll feel like it's run by a third-rate ChatGPT knockoff?
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max

I'm sorry you feel that way. I have learned from this and will try to improve in the future.

Posted by: NOT a third-rate ChatGPT knockoff. at June 06, 2023 05:21 PM (0Vf0N)

98
The U.S. Government has guaranteed that the wire transfer of funds to me from Nigeria is in transit, and that the Ukrainian 18 year old women I have arranged to marry will be landing in Kennedy airport by the weekend.

Posted by: Auspex at June 06, 2023 05:21 PM (j4U/Z)

99 The US bio-labs have been pretty publicly reported on for quite some time. It's amusing that people deny they existed.

Reuters from March of 2022 talking about how the WHO advised Ukraine to destroy pathogens in the labs to prevent disease spread.

https://tinyurl.com/4h5739ya

The bioweapons argument is just quibbling over what qualifies as bioweapon research.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 06, 2023 05:22 PM (eYoxG)

100 Also, unless this was a smoking accident, Russia blowing the dam suggests the offensive is about to start.

And its probably not a sign of Russian strength.

Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:22 PM (Cg63x)

101 >Then you should return to those happy hunting grounds and not sully your superior mind by associating with lowly types such as we.

I used to have a good time arguing with you fags about the Iraq war back in the day. You were all very supportive of that back then, and so trusting of the US military and CIA. It's really funny thinking back on it.

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:22 PM (tpWNw)

102 Oh look; It's Jason and the Paul-go-nauts
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


A burn from the pulpit. LOL
Posted by: DaveA


Those hurt twice as bad.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 05:22 PM (D4vK5)

103 Pointing fingers at everyone

**********

That Spider-Man meme comes to mind

https://tinyurl.com/y4uc83mj

Posted by: The Unfaucinated and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 06, 2023 05:22 PM (VTu1l)

104 4chan has porn, so they must be smarter.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at June 06, 2023 05:22 PM (ik/65)

105 It is never not entertaining to see peacenik leftist doves turn into screeching warhawks over Ukraine.

Posted by: LizLem at June 06, 2023 05:22 PM (+mkOR)

106 >>Remember the biolabs shit you pushed a year ago? Why don't you hear about that anymore?

You mean the ones the DOD admitted a year ago that exist in Ukraine?

You don't hear about them so dummies like you will continue to support whatever this criminal administration and their lying propagandists in the media tell you because you are too lazy or dumb to do any research on your own.

https://tinyurl.com/3tp7s24n

Posted by: JackStraw at June 06, 2023 05:22 PM (ZLI7S)

107 What IS a biolab CharlieBrown?

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:23 PM (tpWNw)

108 My kids lied better at age 3 than these clowns.
Posted by: Blake

Jason identifies as a 3 year old.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 06, 2023 05:23 PM (52Zf5)

109 Is a black dog with a quaint name involved?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and David Ogilvy. at June 06, 2023 05:23 PM (HxGBk)

110 Posted by: Jason

***********

Why hello there average joe, long time no see! Are you still sucking your own c**k by choice?

Posted by: The Unfaucinated and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 06, 2023 05:23 PM (VTu1l)

111 It is, as they say, "Good enough for Government work."

Its good enough for delaware is the new margin of error calibration

Posted by: DanMan at June 06, 2023 05:23 PM (DB6tu)

112
"I'm going to f--king gay dam bash you, fa--t dam!!!

That's why I need an army!!!"

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at June 06, 2023 05:23 PM (fb7jX)

113 Ultimately we'll find out Cartman did it.

Posted by: DaveA at June 06, 2023 05:23 PM (FhXTo)

114 I'm sorry you feel that way. I have learned from this and will try to improve in the future.
Posted by: NOT a third-rate ChatGPT knockoff


You forgot to yell "THIS IS MAGA COUNTRY!"

Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 05:23 PM (D4vK5)

115 >4chan has porn, so they must be smarter.
Not on /pol/...but they are allow to discuss truths that are still forbidden to be discussed here aren't they?

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:24 PM (tpWNw)

116 Has anyone asked if the dam just failed on its own? Perhaps it was a victim of Soviet craftsmanship?

(Not sure when the dam was built.)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 06, 2023 05:24 PM (YIVH2)

117 I won't believe any theory unless it is presented on a mechanized billiards table.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 06, 2023 05:24 PM (8AONa)

118 "Wouldn't it make sense to wait until the Ukrainians had started throwing bridges across the Dnieper downstream before blowing the dam."

Probably too wide for bridging and Russia has missiles and aircraft.

Probably reason is to allow Russian units defending the riverbank to be able to move away and defend against the offensive. Russia is a little light troopwise.

Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:24 PM (Cg63x)

119 Ultimately we'll find out Cartman did it.
Posted by: DaveA at June 06, 2023 05:23 PM (FhXTo)
---
"I didn't do it!"

Posted by: Bart Simpson at June 06, 2023 05:24 PM (YIVH2)

120 What IS a biolab CharlieBrown?

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:23 PM (tpWNw)

You're cute.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 05:24 PM (ZCCyW)

121 What IS a biolab CharlieBrown?
Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:23 PM (tpWNw)


I sure don't remember *that* Peanuts special. Must have been from Schulz's "dark" period.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 06, 2023 05:25 PM (jGGMD)

122 Two maga hat wearing Ruskies, tied a noose around my neck and blew me up.

Posted by: North Sea Pipeline at June 06, 2023 05:25 PM (sh1GZ)

123 "I'm going to f--king gay dam bash you, fa--t dam!!!

That's why I need an army!!!"
Posted by: Vladimir Putin at June 06, 2023 05:23 PM (fb7jX)

During PRIDE MONTH?!@#!

Posted by: ballistic at June 06, 2023 05:25 PM (oXNqT)

124 100 Also, unless this was a smoking accident, Russia blowing the dam suggests the offensive is about to start.

And its probably not a sign of Russian strength.
Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:22 PM (Cg63x)

Tori Nuland has entered the chat

Posted by: REDACTED at June 06, 2023 05:25 PM (us2H3)

125 I expect the communists built the damn, so it failing would be right in character. Safety first comrade!

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 06, 2023 05:25 PM (pohLc)

126 Yeah I figured you couldn't answer Charlie Brown.

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:25 PM (tpWNw)

127 Oh man, Iraq and Afghanistan sure did open some eyes.

But not as many as Trump.

Screw these wars. Screw Ukraine especially.

Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at June 06, 2023 05:25 PM (MPV9K)

128 " ... they are allow to discuss truths that are still forbidden to be discussed here ... "

Comedy gold, Jerry!

LOL

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 06, 2023 05:25 PM (v0mat)

129 Been a while since we've had an admitted 4-chan user troll here.

I'm sure they do, but it's been a while since anyone admitted it.

Posted by: Just Lily at June 06, 2023 05:25 PM (RLLZj)

130 I don't trust for a second one bit of ZH's coverage of the war; otherwise mostly factual, they lean hard towards the Russian viewpoint on Russian related newz.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 06, 2023 05:25 PM (zHuJr)

131 Was the American MIC such blatant MF'in liars back in the Iraq War days? I always thought the WMD nonsense was all an innocent mistake. We were bamboozled by Saddam. Now, I actually believe the exact opposite of whatever my nation is claiming.

Posted by: tommylotto at June 06, 2023 05:25 PM (6QQM8)

132 Dam not damn. Heh.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 06, 2023 05:26 PM (pohLc)

133 86 38 22 Well, Poland likely would have let them drive through.. pretty map though.
Posted by: Inogame at June 06, 2023 05:11 PM (53oGX)

They still would've needed someone to supply the equipment and training.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 06, 2023 05:13 PM (eYoxG)

I mean... Ukraine has had a deep water port since they were invented by Russia. Divers are necessary, and that training would be the most specialized needed. I couldn't do it, but to expect a former soviet state to not have someone trained to dive and plant bombs seems stranger than having them trained. Also, it could have been us, it could have been russia... it could have been the chinese... lots of people are interested in getting people involved here.
Posted by: Inogame at June 06, 2023 05:20 PM (53oGX)

The Ukrainian military was not in particularly good shape before the overthrow of the prior government. Doubtful they had underwater demolitions expertise.

The naval kit at the very least would've had to be provided, unless you go with what the map is pointing out, the idea they somehow got there by ship from Ukraine is absurd.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 06, 2023 05:26 PM (eYoxG)

134 The CIA is essentially running Ukraine so if the CIA said Ukraine did it the CIA did it.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 06, 2023 05:26 PM (ZLI7S)

135
Attention. Attention, Smart Military Blog readers: The dam was not "blown up". Some explosives were used to breach the upper portion, creating an unplanned spillway. Assuming the dam's structural integrity doesn't degrade further, the water flow will cease when the water level drops below it.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 06, 2023 05:13 PM


I have a tendency to actually look at photographs and make my own determination and I think you're correct.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 06, 2023 05:26 PM (enJYY)

136 The best argument I've seen made for the biolabs is that the US just indirectly hired all the people from the old Soviet era bio-weapons research so they wouldn't do "bad things"

But...if your experience is making new/worse bugs what are you going to end up doing when you have no real deliverables and endless money to spend?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 05:26 PM (lc5cP)

137 Research lab = has not released bioweapons

Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at June 06, 2023 05:26 PM (MPV9K)

138 I think the claim is that a Ukrainian real estate agent rented a boat out of Poland or Denmark and sailed it the spot a few week before where the NordStream blew up. The story goes that some European intelligence agency much later investigated the boat and said it had traces of explosives detectable on it.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 06, 2023 05:26 PM (pWgpB)

139 Has anyone asked if the dam just failed on its own? Perhaps it was a victim of Soviet craftsmanship?

(Not sure when the dam was built.)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel


Russian design, Chinese execution.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 05:26 PM (D4vK5)

140 Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:15 PM (tpWNw)

Hey, Jason. Fuck off. And if you see your pal Paul, tell him I said fuck off too.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 06, 2023 05:26 PM (BdMk6)

141 Yes, Ukraine had biolabs from soviet times. We paid them salaries so they didn't go work for Saddam Hussein or someone like that.

They might still do some disease research and have samples of bad viruses around, but they probably aren't concocting bioweapons, because none have been used against Russia.

China created pandemic wasn't a bioweapon either - or if it was, its kinda dangerous to use.

Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:27 PM (Cg63x)

142 We should all listen to the nic that has never posted before
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 06, 2023 05:12 PM (5EnGD)

Zelenskyy is getting his money's worth: propaganda spewed, AND a beejer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 06, 2023 05:27 PM (uNnFe)

143
Wait, was there a Pink Dot convenience store on the dam's roadway?

If so, I think sufficient numbers of bundles of sticks may be nearby to plug the breach.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 06, 2023 05:27 PM (pNxlR)

144 Oh look, we've got an "always AoS" who truly is one of us, swearsies, and actually believes whatever story is fed him by his favorite politician or MSM talking head!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 06, 2023 05:27 PM (2YtOq)

145 Losing the dam also cuts off the main water supply for Crimea.
Posted by: West Hollywood's Sizable Russian Community! at June 06, 2023 05:18 PM (2tUFv)

Oh Crimea fucking river.

Posted by: Let them drink bottled water! at June 06, 2023 05:27 PM (fiChp)

146 What IS a biolab CharlieBrown?
Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:23 PM (tpWNw)

It's like a woman, but not quite as dangerous.

Posted by: Methos at June 06, 2023 05:27 PM (kOpft)

147 Was the American MIC such blatant MF'in liars back in the Iraq War days? I always thought the WMD nonsense was all an innocent mistake. We were bamboozled by Saddam. Now, I actually believe the exact opposite of whatever my nation is claiming.

-

Same as Libya.

They were going to trade oil using something other than the US dollar.

Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at June 06, 2023 05:27 PM (MPV9K)

148 Putin. He's like the Joker. He just wants chaos, man. And if you understand that, then you can understand how you can ascribe every action you don't like to him.

Posted by: blaster at June 06, 2023 05:28 PM (pwExq)

149 >The CIA is essentially running Ukraine so if the CIA said Ukraine did it the CIA did it.

Remember when the CIA said Russia was going to invade Ukraine and you didn't believe them?

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:28 PM (tpWNw)

150 It's obvious: Ellen/Elliott Page blew the pipeline, the dam and 20-30 Ukrainian soldiers. Then the Russians called it a faggot. This stuff writes itself

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 06, 2023 05:28 PM (O8bOp)

151 Yeah I figured you couldn't answer Charlie Brown.

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:25 PM (tpWNw)

Ah...your tactics are a little backward. Don't immediately go to vitriol and then try to backtrack. It tips your hand, and people won't take you seriously.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 05:28 PM (ZCCyW)

152 Dam, boy

DAM BOY, he thicc!

That's a thic ass boy, DAM!

BABA!!!

Posted by: Group of Trans CIA Agents Admiring Thickness of Dam Before Blowing It Up at June 06, 2023 05:28 PM (VTu1l)

153 Ace, it does my heart good to see you point out how ridiculous the theory that of the Ukes blowing up Nordstream is. Of course there is one way they could have done it; and that's if they were carried there and launched from a US sub equipped for such operations.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2023 05:28 PM (i9ffA)

154 Show Of hands: those of us receiving IRS form CP14. Yep That’s what I thought: a lot.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 06, 2023 05:28 PM (glGDV)

155 When you realize a nuclear strike on New York will mean an almost immediate end to the traitorous cabal ruling this country, it doesn't seem nearly so bad.

A bioweapon outbreak at a WEF meeting would be much cleaner, but I'll take what I can get.
Posted by: trev006 at June 06, 2023 05:08 PM (ZyRtd)

———

Take out NYC, DC and LA and you got a stew!

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 06, 2023 05:29 PM (pWgpB)

156 On a personal note, I am really pi$$ed off that all those novels and movies where the FBI or CIA were good guys, heroes, etc. were all make believe.

Posted by: Ciampino - I've been lied to all this time at June 06, 2023 05:29 PM (qfLjt)

157 >Hey, Jason. Fuck off. And if you see your pal Paul, tell him I said fuck off too.

Hey Charlied Brown, does this violate the "no personal attacks" rule you mentioned earlier?

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:29 PM (tpWNw)

158 141 Yes, Ukraine had biolabs from soviet times. We paid them salaries so they didn't go work for Saddam Hussein or someone like that.

They might still do some disease research and have samples of bad viruses around, but they probably aren't concocting bioweapons, because none have been used against Russia.

China created pandemic wasn't a bioweapon either - or if it was, its kinda dangerous to use.
Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:27 PM (Cg63x)

We weren't financing the labs for decades for Ukraine to futz around. They didn't necessarily exist to deploy against Russia, but we do our bioweapons research in other poorer countries generally.

All bioweapons would be dangerous to use. That's why it's a retarded use of funding. They're indiscriminate.

If "bioweapon" offends, you can call it "modifying diseases to make them more dangerous". This stuff tends to escape sooner or later.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 06, 2023 05:29 PM (eYoxG)

159 "But...if your experience is making new/worse bugs what are you going to end up doing when you have no real deliverables and endless money to spend?"

Well, they didn't climb around bat caves collecting new viruses and tweaking them like China did.

Probably the best commercial change would be to become a testing lab. Maybe handle vax stuff.

If they kept working on bioweapons why no release in Russia?

Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:29 PM (Cg63x)

160 Did the CIA say Russia wasn't going to invade before or after Biden said Ukraine was going to join NATO?

Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at June 06, 2023 05:29 PM (MPV9K)

161 Jason, just to clue you in: no one's attacking you for taking Ukraine's side. You're being attacked because you showed up out of literally nowhere and started calling everyone else idiots. If nobody knows you, try being a little respectful and polite at the outset. Works well in meatspace, works well here.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 06, 2023 05:29 PM (jGGMD)

162 93 It's so unlikely that Ukraine did this that Ukraine wargamed doing this last year.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist

Things have changed a lot since summer.

Why would Ukraine do it?
- They are losing and when losing throw dirt in the air.
- kill Crimean water source
- lessen defenses needed in West so concentrate on wherever.

Why would Russia do it
- Create havoc to strain UKR ability to attack
- Remove one avenue of attack, so able to concentrate defenses.
- move UKR forces back a bit from Crimea and supply routes.

Why would Nature do it.
- Seems unlikely since past damage was to roadway and this is full on blowed up.

Posted by: NOT a third-rate ChatGPT knockoff. at June 06, 2023 05:29 PM (0Vf0N)

163 It tips your hand, and people won't take you seriously.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


Wait, we were supposed to be taking him seriously? Because fuck that noise.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Max Headroom for President! at June 06, 2023 05:29 PM (OUMaO)

164 Jason

But guys he's an expert. He said so himself

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at June 06, 2023 05:30 PM (Vu7A1)

165 Well I see Jason the Glowie checked in.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2023 05:30 PM (i9ffA)

166 Hey, Jason. Fuck off. And if you see your pal Paul, tell him I said fuck off too.

**************

Aren't you just telling the same person to fuck off twice?

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 06, 2023 05:30 PM (VTu1l)

167 Crimean beaver video:
https://tinyurl.com/mre47nkb
6 seconds of flat tail

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 06, 2023 05:30 PM (Vwz3I)

168 >>The best argument I've seen made for the biolabs is that the US just indirectly hired all the people from the old Soviet era bio-weapons research so they wouldn't do "bad things"


The best evidence of bio labs in Ukraine exists on Hunter's laptop.

The company he invested in to do virus hunting is the same company that was doing it in Wuhan.

The labs were definitely there and billions of US tax dollars were spent funding them.

https://tinyurl.com/yvk374z2

Posted by: JackStraw at June 06, 2023 05:30 PM (ZLI7S)

169 "If "bioweapon" offends, you can call it "modifying diseases to make them more dangerous". This stuff tends to escape sooner or later."

I think virologists get off on doing that. Baric was doing that in the USA, too.

Playing God or bioweapon or both.

Anyways, not seen any bioweapon launches from Ukraine.

Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:30 PM (Cg63x)

170 Where is Code Pink and the pussy hat brigade when we need them? Noticeably silent.

The only good wars are wars that the Dem Machine endorses.

Which is basically all of them.

Selective outrage is the specialty of our Elites, Media and Corroptocrats

Posted by: Czech Chick at June 06, 2023 05:31 PM (p+DvU)

171 If "bioweapon" offends, you can call it "modifying diseases to make them more dangerous". This stuff tends to escape sooner or later.

-

Remember when Italy got a big ol strain of the Covid-19 before anyone else?

Probably nothing.

Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at June 06, 2023 05:31 PM (MPV9K)

172
Jeebus, J is an evangelist here to enlighten us with 4 chan's revealed truths.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 06, 2023 05:31 PM (pNxlR)

173 Jazz Guzzler Jason and Prolapse Paul.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 06, 2023 05:31 PM (oJm/a)

174 But Donald Trump is behind it all, right?

Posted by: MSNBC Viewer at June 06, 2023 05:31 PM (PiwSw)

175 Jizz

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 06, 2023 05:31 PM (oJm/a)

176 It's interesting that the Washington Post is starting to run articles blaming the Nordstream bombings on the Ukrainians, and blaming the drone attack on the Kremlin on the Ukrainians.

A couple of weeks ago, Kyrylo Budanov, head of Ukrainian military intelligence, said three interesting things:

First, that he considered any Russian anywhere on Earth to be a legitimate military target;

Second, that if the EU reduced aid to Ukraine, that terrorist attacks would start in Western Europe. He didn't say who would be doing the terrorist attacks.

And;

Third, he talked about mass executions among the current Crimean population when Ukraine took Crimea back.

It is possible that the American intelligence establishment is worried that the Ukrainians may go completely off the rails, and are trying to warn the Ukrainians off before the car bombings start in Budapest.

BTW, both in appearance and demeanor, Budanov would make an excellent Bond villain.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at June 06, 2023 05:31 PM (2tUFv)

177 It's obvious: Ellen/Elliott Page blew the pipeline, the dam and 20-30 Ukrainian soldiers. Then the Russians called it a faggot. This stuff writes itself
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 06, 2023 05:28 PM (O8bOp)


Is that why Putin has a gun? Or is it why Zelensky can't get roles in Hollywood anymore?

Posted by: Dr. T at June 06, 2023 05:31 PM (jGGMD)

178 Next time I visit a big city I will identify as trans. THEN if some random psycho bothers me I can get someone to care.

Posted by: Just Lily at June 06, 2023 05:32 PM (RLLZj)

179 Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:29 PM (tpWNw)

Sure. I'll send a stern letter.

As I said...you tipped your hand.

Be a better troll next time!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 05:32 PM (ZCCyW)

180 It's not the same size as the fucking Hoover dam. Maybe in terms of poured concrete or some such nonsense, but Hoover's water depth is almost ten times as deep as Kakhovka.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 06, 2023 05:32 PM (k1Qly)

181 >You're being attacked because you showed up out of literally nowhere and started calling everyone else idiots.
Like I said, I stopped commenting here years ago and stick to 4chan now. Anons there are anonymous, not namefags. They're also not snowflakes who get upset at being called an idiot. And most of them weren't supporters of the Iraq war and the American MIC until a couple years ago like you sad boomers.

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:32 PM (tpWNw)

182 Hey, Jason. Fuck off. And if you see your pal Paul, tell him I said fuck off too.

Hey Charlied Brown, does this violate the "no personal attacks" rule you mentioned earlier?

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:29 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDB5gbtaEQ

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 06, 2023 05:32 PM (ncXxy)

183 169 "If "bioweapon" offends, you can call it "modifying diseases to make them more dangerous". This stuff tends to escape sooner or later."

I think virologists get off on doing that. Baric was doing that in the USA, too.

Playing God or bioweapon or both.

Anyways, not seen any bioweapon launches from Ukraine.
Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:30 PM (Cg63x)

No one said Ukraine released bioweapons against Russia.

1. There are labs in Ukraine working on and possessing what might reasonably be termed bioweapons
2. These are US financed, some of the investment capital is more recent and comes through Biden connections

This is public information.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 06, 2023 05:32 PM (eYoxG)

184 I definitely am open to wondering why Hunter was investing money there.

But I also saw some of the Russian false flags that were super dumb. This sounds like one, too.

America has vaccine makers, too. Are they "bioweaopons" labs because they have dangerous viruses in the labs?

potato pohtahto

Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:32 PM (Cg63x)

185 Why can't you just say what a biolab is Charlie?

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:32 PM (tpWNw)

186 Attention. Attention, Smart Military Blog readers: The dam was not "blown up". Some explosives were used to breach the upper portion,



Most people would call that blown up. Maybe not totally destroyed, but definitely blown up.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 05:32 PM (D4vK5)

187 Look, I mean, i went out for a sandwich. Subway you know. Then all of the sudden these two guys with Maga hats said hey youre that faggot pipeline!! then they did things to me. And I blew.

Posted by: North Sea Pipeline at June 06, 2023 05:33 PM (sh1GZ)

188 I can't overstate the degree to which I tune out developments in "the Russia-Ukraine war."

The whole thing is such a psy-op.

Posted by: FishingWithFredo at June 06, 2023 05:33 PM (KSVfo)

189 What is a woman?

Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at June 06, 2023 05:33 PM (MPV9K)

190 They're also not snowflakes who get upset at being called an idiot.

*******************

lol calling 4chan idiots is the surest way to get doxxed faster than they found everywhere Shia Labeouf was hiding out

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 06, 2023 05:34 PM (VTu1l)

191 If they kept working on bioweapons why no release in Russia?

Bioweapons are actually terrible weapons to use on your neighbor. Dose the Russians and the Ukes will have it shortly thereafter.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 05:34 PM (lc5cP)

192 Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:32 PM (tpWNw)

Now now sweetie...you're being toyed with.

We're better at this stuff than you are.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 05:34 PM (ZCCyW)

193 "1. There are labs in Ukraine working on and possessing what might reasonably be termed bioweapons"

What exact bioweapon?

Do we know?

For example, weaponized anthrax? Iraq worked on that.

Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:34 PM (Cg63x)

194 Like I said, I stopped commenting here years ago and stick to 4chan now. Anons there are anonymous, not namefags. They're also not snowflakes who get upset at being called an idiot. And most of them weren't supporters of the Iraq war and the American MIC until a couple years ago like you sad boomers.
Posted by: Jason


You just said you come here daily. Which is it?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 05:34 PM (D4vK5)

195 Remember when Italy got a big ol strain of the Covid-19 before anyone else?

Probably nothing.
Posted by: Have you figured out

Italy area where the wuflu hit 1st and was worst was also the leather working area that has the most chinese workers.
"Italian" leather work has been done by the chinese for a while.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 06, 2023 05:34 PM (52Zf5)

196 "Bioweapons are actually terrible weapons to use on your neighbor. Dose the Russians and the Ukes will have it shortly thereafter."

This is why I don't think they are weapons.

I think they might have dumbasses like Wuhan IV who get excited playing god "what if we did this?"

Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:35 PM (Cg63x)

197 It seems blatantly obvious that one possible reason that Russia and Ukraine are accusing each other of this is that in fact, neither of them did it. So who does that leave as a suspect? Oh, it must be the Skipper and Gilligan again, with that nutty professors coconut bombs.

And I see the MSM is already starting to push the "maybe it just went boom and fell down on its own" storyline, since giant concrete structures do that all the time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2023 05:35 PM (i9ffA)

198 "And most of them weren't supporters of the Iraq war and the American MIC until a couple years ago like you sad boomers."


Seriously? boomers? You are going to have to do better than that tide pod.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 06, 2023 05:36 PM (ncXxy)

199 Insert joke about Taco Bell and bioweapons.

Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:36 PM (Cg63x)

200 I am of the opinion that this is a "crime against humanity."

What legitimate military objective is this?

Total War.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 06, 2023 05:36 PM (vg8N1)

201 189 What is a woman?
Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at June 06, 2023 05:33 PM (MPV9K)

1% bobs and vagene, 99% liability.

Posted by: Actuarially speaking at June 06, 2023 05:36 PM (fiChp)

202 Most people would call that blown up. Maybe not totally destroyed, but definitely blown up.
Posted by: rickb223


It's a colloquial term, FFS.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 06, 2023 05:36 PM (jzzG8)

203 >lol calling 4chan idiots is the surest way to get doxxed faster than they found everywhere Shia Labeouf was hiding out

This is cringe boomer nonsense but ok. I think you guys are ashamed at having supported foreign wars and being total suckers for the Feds for decades...and now the cuck rage has blinded you and you've switched to being a sucker for idiotic Russian propaganda like Tucker. I get it, but at least Glenn Greenwald always believed Russian lies and isn't a newfound zealous convert.

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:36 PM (tpWNw)

204 It's not even a question, there were US funded bio labs in Ukraine and the Bidens were making money of them by steering US tax dollars to the project.

>>The US awarded $23.9 million to Metabiota later in 2014, with $307,091 allocated for a “Ukrainian research projects,” government spending records showed.

>>The younger Biden bragged to investors that his company organized funding for Metabiota and helped it “get new customers” including “government agencies,” according to e-mails.

>>B&V had been commissioned in 2010 by the US Defense Threat Reduction Agency to build a lab in Odessa, to “enhance the government’s existing surveillance systems to detect, report and respond to bioterrorism attacks, epidemics and potential pandemics,” the company’s website said.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 06, 2023 05:36 PM (ZLI7S)

205 >>> 156 On a personal note, I am really pi$$ed off that all those novels and movies where the FBI or CIA were good guys, heroes, etc. were all make believe.

Ironically, I think shows like the X Files might be the most realistic. Some good guys like Mulder and Scully doing the good fight, and leaders up top like the Smoking Man pulling the strings being scum.

And the people with the crazy conspiracy theories like the Lone Gunmen end up being right.

Posted by: LizLem at June 06, 2023 05:37 PM (+mkOR)

206 Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:32 PM (tpWNw)

Okay...this is a bit better. Try to draw out commenters with pointed questions. Not really clever, but certainly better than immediately leaping to aggression.

Still, your claim that you have been here since 2005 is a bit lame. Work on that one a bit before you come back as "Trans In Salem," Or "Oregonian Orgasm," or something like that.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 05:37 PM (ZCCyW)

207 It's nigh impossible to do this via shelling - and apparently it happened via a single blast - not a coordinated shelling campaign. So now we're saying Russia is so incompetent that it allowed Ukrainian demolitionists to smuggle hundreds of pounds of explosives into a dam controlled by Russia? I'm skeptical. Furthermore, the areas flooded on the Russian side of the river - those fortifications were abandoned months ago as they were at a disadvantageous position vis-a-vis the Ukrainian side that had higher elevation. Thats all that was damaged on the Russian side. Crimea supposedly has two years of water supply stored up so they don't need the dam to be repaired/replaced anytime soon. This also makes a 90km long area of the Dniper un-assaultable now - and Ukrainian forces will be diverted to evacuating and supporting the civilian population effected by this.

Furthermore, the counteroffiensive hasn't really even begun - there are signs that it has started.

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 06, 2023 05:37 PM (n3jOt)

208 And I see the MSM is already starting to push the "maybe it just went boom and fell down on its own" storyline, since giant concrete structures do that all the time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2023 05:35 PM


In all fairness, giant concrete structures do that in China and the Philippines quite often.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 06, 2023 05:37 PM (ncXxy)

209 So who does that leave as a suspect? Oh, it must be the Skipper and Gilligan again, with that nutty professors coconut bombs.

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It's much easier to say the CIA was behind everything and you're guaranteed to be right at least 90% of the time

I blame the CIA for my dating failures on Tinder and I would bet my left nut there's truth to that as well

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 06, 2023 05:37 PM (VTu1l)

210 Jason, Biden, in a major speech, said the US wouldn't respond to a minor incursion. I knew at the time Biden said that, he greenlit the invasion.

I don't know where you got the idea CIA was on top of what was going to happen, but Biden was the one who set the ball rolling. After Biden opened his ice cream hole, anyone could have predicted what was going to happen.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 06, 2023 05:37 PM (2YtOq)

211 ost people would call that blown up. Maybe not totally destroyed, but definitely blown up.
Posted by: rickb223

It's a colloquial term, FFS.
==
I was blown up. Blown. Up. The damn was breached.

Posted by: North Sea Pipeline at June 06, 2023 05:37 PM (sh1GZ)

212 Oh Mister Scott, you believed the CIA when they said Saddam has WMDs didn't you?

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:37 PM (tpWNw)

213 OK, there is a cc video of a blast on the dam.

It actually blew up. Its not a weakened dam breaking

I'm pretty confident Russia blew it.

How would Ukraine get forces onto it to plant explosives?

Its literally a road over a dam...no place to hide.

Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:37 PM (Cg63x)

214 And I see the MSM is already starting to push the "maybe it just went boom and fell down on its own" storyline, since giant concrete structures do that all the time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2023 05:35 PM (i9ffA)

They do in China...just sayin...communist built dams are not the most reliable...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 06, 2023 05:37 PM (exHjb)

215 What's a "name fa*"? is this a new addition to LBGT?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2023 05:37 PM (Keyt1)

216 Geoff Brumfiel @gbrumfiel · 14h
Final postscript (and then I'm going back to bed for a few hours anyway):

The canal that supplies water to Crimea has its intake just above the dam. However, as TASS reported last Nov, Russia has topped up Crimea's reservoirs. No immediate crisis there.

https://tass.com/russia/1535583

||Crimea’s water reservoirs have enough water for two years — authorities
In May 2014, Ukraine cut water supplies to Crimea from the Kherson Region via the North Crimean canal
SIMFEROPOL, November 11. /TASS/. Crimea’s water reservoirs have enough water for two years and will be able to meet the peninsula’s entire demand in case the Ukrainian authorities implement their threats and blow up the Kakhovka hydroelectric power plant’s dam, Crimea’s Prime Minister Vladimir Konstantinov said on Friday.||

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 06, 2023 05:37 PM (Vwz3I)

217 @40: "Some explosives were used to breach the upper portion, creating an unplanned spillway."

Interesting 'cause the Russians had drained the reservoir from 16.5m to 14.0m (30 year low) between late Nov '22 and early Feb '23, then began quickly filling it to all the way back up to 17.5m (+1m over normal) starting in April.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 06, 2023 05:38 PM (k1Qly)

218 184 I definitely am open to wondering why Hunter was investing money there.

But I also saw some of the Russian false flags that were super dumb. This sounds like one, too.

America has vaccine makers, too. Are they "bioweaopons" labs because they have dangerous viruses in the labs?

potato pohtahto
Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:32 PM (Cg63x)

The process for enhancing a disease is wildly different from the process for making a vaccine.

We use computer modeling to anticipate the changes to make a vaccine, we don't try to enhance the disease's function, that'd be insane and illegal.

Which is why we do it overseas instead.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 06, 2023 05:38 PM (eYoxG)

219
Unfortunately my limited education opportunities never included knowledge about dam blowing up, but one might think the most damage would occur by blowing the bottom out of the dam not the top.

Of course the cement might be thicker there.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 06, 2023 05:38 PM (enJYY)

220 Maybe Earth/Gaia needs World War III to break out to cull out all the trimmers and mouth breeders in the various national capitols.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 05:38 PM (xOcf/)

221 Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:36 PM (tpWNw)

You are really quite a boring fool after all. You should fuck off before we get nasty.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 06, 2023 05:38 PM (pohLc)

222 I can't overstate the degree to which I tune out developments in "the Russia-Ukraine war."

Yep.

All I get fed are lies. And I have no way of sorting out the truth, which no one seems much interested in. So it's all just more of The Current Thing. "Please remove me from your mailing list."

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 06, 2023 05:39 PM (ppBhU)

223 First thing I thought of was this sounds like a vague rip-off of Alistair MacLean's "Force 10 from Navarone" which is a pretty good book... less than good movie.

Posted by: GanGanowicz at June 06, 2023 05:39 PM (oUGcm)

224 >Jason, Biden, in a major speech, said the US wouldn't respond to a minor incursion. I knew at the time Biden said that, he greenlit the invasion.

I know bro. Everything that happens in the world is America's doing, just like Noam has said all along. It was super genius of Putin to wait until the very beginning of the muddy season to invade though wasn't it?

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:39 PM (tpWNw)

225 Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:36 PM (tpWNw)

Do you like twinks...or maybe bears?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 05:39 PM (ZCCyW)

226 m really pi$$ed off that all those novels and movies where the FBI or CIA were good guys, heroes, etc. were all make believe

***************

I boycott any film'fiction that portrays deep state as good guys.

Funny enough in addition to the X-Files Die Hard is probably one of the most accurate portrayals of the FBI to date

"This is Agent Johnson... no, the other one"

Also fun fact, guy who played the agent is a MAGA conservative who directed My Son Hunter

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 06, 2023 05:39 PM (VTu1l)

227 I love how some - even officials - are saying "the Dam wasn't totally destroyed " when there's the video right there on the ."screen with the narrator saying "as you can see, the Dam was totally destroyed ."

Oh I guess there's still a few chunks of concrete on each bank so it wasn't "totally" destroyed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2023 05:39 PM (i9ffA)

228 Has anyone here watched Force 10 From Navarone?

The op is all detailed in that movie.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 06, 2023 05:39 PM (pWgpB)

229 I hardly think all Boomers think the same way about everything, Jason. Plenty of Boomers were not in favor of the Iraq War.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2023 05:39 PM (Keyt1)

230 Of course the cement might be thicker there.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 06, 2023 05:38 PM (enJYY)

Yes, maybe 300 feet thicker.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 06, 2023 05:40 PM (pohLc)

231 >You are really quite a boring fool after all. You should fuck off before we get nasty.

Oh noes! I thought "personal attacks" are against the rules here though? Nice boomer tough guy on the internet act though.

Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:40 PM (tpWNw)

232 Its literally a road over a dam...no place to hide.
Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:37 PM (Cg63x)
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The Dirty Dozen could have done it.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 06, 2023 05:40 PM (fxrF8)

233 The Russians also blew up my penis pump and forced David French to watch his wife get plowed like a Kansas field by some Paolos from Brazil.

Posted by: Adam Kryzingner at June 06, 2023 05:40 PM (I+ZWa)

234 >>The US awarded $23.9 million to Metabiota later in 2014, with $307,091 allocated for a “Ukrainian research projects,” government spending records showed.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 06, 2023 05:36 PM (ZLI7S)

The Biden connection was through part of Rosemont Seneca, now renamed Pilot Growth Equity. Hunter Biden used to be a partner until he caused them too much PR issues.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 06, 2023 05:40 PM (eYoxG)

235 "So, no one blew up the dam, and they are just taking the chance to blame each other b/c war! That actually seems the most plausible..."

I always did like the "Russian maintenance" theory of the destruction of Nordstream.

But ordinary maintenance failures are not nearly as sexy as who blowed up who and what nefarious plot they had behind it.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 06, 2023 05:40 PM (ou9hh)

236 Operation Chastise

The special bombs of Barnes-Wallis were designed to sink to the base of the dam before detonating. The plan was the over-pressure would crack the concrete.

And it worked.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 05:40 PM (xOcf/)

237 I love how some - even officials - are saying "the Dam wasn't totally destroyed " when there's the video right there on the ."screen with the narrator saying "as you can see, the Dam was totally destroyed ."

Oh I guess there's still a few chunks of concrete on each bank so it wasn't "totally" destroyed.
Posted by: Tom Servo


I guess I don't do nuance, but that sounds a lot like it was blown up to me.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 05:41 PM (D4vK5)

238 Lol , I was saying here last night "I'm no expert on Dam demolition, but I DID watch Force 10 from Navarrone!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2023 05:41 PM (i9ffA)

239 Both may have - and I'll wait to see what the real condition of the water flow is. Ukes definitely are interested in reducing the flow of water to Crimea so they would have a reason to do it. The Russians control the nuke plant, so if they were being psychopaths they might do it.

But more realistically the Russians might have done it to reduce the area they need to defend with this or that many troops. Now that the Ukes have demonstrated an ability to make longer strikes - even into Russia - the issue is not if they can hold territory, but can they disrupt the logistics of troop and material movement into Eastern Ukraine making it even more difficult for Russia to react quickly to troop movements. Blowing the dam reduces that vulnerability for Russia.

And it could be they both thought the music in the new Little Mermaid movie was so hideous they just had to break something.

Posted by: Black JEM at June 06, 2023 05:42 PM (HdBH7)

240 Scog has landed again, I see.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 06, 2023 05:42 PM (2YtOq)

241 How would Ukraine get forces onto it to plant explosives?

Its literally a road over a dam...no place to hide.


The Washington Post has already noted that Ukraine did a test HIMARS strike on the dam previously.

If you are just trying to take out the gates and power house, you don't need tons of explosives.

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at June 06, 2023 05:42 PM (2tUFv)

242 And weirdly just two weeks ago was the 80th anniversary for Operation Chastise.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 05:42 PM (xOcf/)

243 I still say if Putin had nuked the most recent WEF meeting he would have been declared King of the World by acclamation.
Posted by: Chuck C at June 06, 2023 05:10 PM (xttsV)

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This just tells you that Putin is not very smart. There it was, the world for the taking and he gets bogged in Ukrainian mud.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 06, 2023 05:42 PM (3JfbU)

244 Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:37 PM (tpWNw)

Oh sweetie-pie...the NYT confirmed that there were WMDs in Iraq in a 2014 article. You really should do more research before you play with the adults.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 05:43 PM (ZCCyW)

245 Historical precedent:

https://tinyurl.com/2w4v9sh8

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 06, 2023 05:43 PM (Vwz3I)

246 Posted by: Jason at June 06

You started off calling everyone here idiots.
Then you implied we were all liars.
Now you claim that we started the personal attacks.

Maybe 4chan is where you belong.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 06, 2023 05:43 PM (52Zf5)

247 There was also a US funded bio lab in Kazakhstan but Putin helped put down that CIA led color revolution. He even called it a color revolution by name.

And yes, the Bidens were involved in that as well.

https://tinyurl.com/2ekkxbhm

Posted by: JackStraw at June 06, 2023 05:44 PM (ZLI7S)

248 "I can't overstate the degree to which I tune out developments in "the Russia-Ukraine war."

"Yep. All I get fed are lies."

Are we even sure there actually is a war in Ukraine?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 06, 2023 05:44 PM (ou9hh)

249 Scog has landed again, I see.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 06, 2023 05:42 PM (2YtOq)

No; Except for the Boomer part, that really doesn't sound like Scogg.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2023 05:44 PM (Keyt1)

250
If we're really, really good, Jason will let slip who blew up the USS Maine in Havana Harbor back in 1898.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 06, 2023 05:44 PM (pNxlR)

251 Maybe the dam ate some late night Taco Bell.

Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:44 PM (Cg63x)

252 Some reports are saying that Russia has continues SAR (Synthetic Apeture Radar) satellite coverage of all battlefields now which makes them in charge and unbeatable now, like they weren't before.

Expect Ukraine to suddenly have unexpected anti-satellite capabilities.

Any more crazy than blowing up a pipeline?

Posted by: QT3.14159 at June 06, 2023 05:44 PM (mVLnq)

253 Oh Mister Scott, you believed the CIA when they said Saddam has WMDs didn't you?
Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:37 PM (tpWNw)

So he gassed the Kurds with Chanel #5?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 06, 2023 05:45 PM (uNnFe)

254 The trick is to site the dam on unstable soils.

Posted by: Zombie William Mulholland at June 06, 2023 05:45 PM (8AONa)

255 Its literally a road over a dam...no place to hide.
Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:37 PM (Cg63x)
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Wouldn't that be "Taconik Bellski"?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 06, 2023 05:45 PM (fxrF8)

256 If we're really, really good, Jason will let slip who blew up the USS Maine in Havana Harbor back in 1898.

You mean it wasn't some cabana boy in the coal bunker, a cigar, and some rum?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 05:45 PM (xOcf/)

257 I don't know who is telling the truth here either.. I certainly don't believe our intelligence agencies. That said.. the idea that Russia is a trustworthy adversary, or source amuses me to no end.
Posted by: Inogame at June 06, 2023 05:13 PM (53oGX)

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That's why I don't pay any attention to either side. Wake me when it's over.

One other thing, let's not forget how we got here. I remember well Biden being shocked that Putin would invade Ukraine when he promised Biden it would just be a minor incursion to which he assented. Biden gave the go-ahead for this war because he and his junta are too stupid to realise what they did.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 06, 2023 05:46 PM (3JfbU)

258 Ignore me.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 06, 2023 05:46 PM (fxrF8)

259 252 Expect Ukraine to suddenly have unexpected anti-satellite capabilities.


did zelenskyy buy virgin orbit?

Posted by: anachronda at June 06, 2023 05:46 PM (v3pYe)

260 A Virgin Orbit

Sounds like some weird cocktail.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 05:47 PM (xOcf/)

261 Andy Canuck

Operation Chastise has entered chat.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 05:48 PM (xOcf/)

262 Oh Mister Scott, you believed the CIA when they said Saddam has WMDs didn't you?
Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:37 PM


I had no idea as I was floating around the Gulf on an aircraft carrier at the time. My dog was already in that fight.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 06, 2023 05:48 PM (ncXxy)

263 "Jason" is a parody account?

Posted by: runner at June 06, 2023 05:48 PM (6LjpC)

264 "Jason"!is a parody account!

Posted by: runner at June 06, 2023 05:49 PM (6LjpC)

265 Fen, I'll bow to your Scogg nose.

Jason is obviously a tiresome troll who doesn't care that a lot of us are damn sick and tired of our government continuing to work against the best interests of America.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 06, 2023 05:49 PM (2YtOq)

266
Out: Trump is gonna start World War III!!
In: Trump is gonna start World War 4!!!

Posted by: ... at June 06, 2023 05:49 PM (lX8VI)

267 A Virgin Orbit

Sounds like some weird cocktail.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 05:47 PM (xOcf/)

The hole one uses to skull-fuck Jason. The other has already had its cherry popped.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 06, 2023 05:50 PM (uNnFe)

268 If you look very closely at the video, you can see zombie Charlton Heston on the bank saying "So you finally, really did it! You Maniacs! You blew it all up! Ah, Dam You! God Dam Uou All to Hell!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2023 05:50 PM (i9ffA)

269 You people suck for not becoming bitter and overly cynical and disappointed in your country 20 years ago!!!

Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at June 06, 2023 05:50 PM (MPV9K)

270 all this cuz Vlad wont let gays adopt little boys for their entertainment

C'mon Vlad, they are willing to pay top dollar !!

Posted by: REDACTED at June 06, 2023 05:51 PM (us2H3)

271

This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 06, 2023 05:51 PM (KATBx)

272 The only way to disarm the bomb is to acknowledge that the United States blew up the Nord pipeline or was directly involved in the sabotage.

There are 10 seconds to decide. What do you do?
Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag?


Nuke DC.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 05:17 PM (D4vK5)

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Then establish a new capital in Kansas City, the real centre of the country, and start afresh.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 06, 2023 05:52 PM (3JfbU)

273 IG

Yep. And the 'smart' set think they can stage manage it all.

How did that turn out Kaiser Wilhelm II?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 05:52 PM (xOcf/)

274 Or maybe Omaha could be the new national capital.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 06, 2023 05:53 PM (3JfbU)

275
It's obvious: Ellen/Elliott Page blew the pipeline, the dam and 20-30 Ukrainian soldiers. Then the Russians called it a faggot. This stuff writes itself
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 06, 2023 05:28 PM (O8bOp)


So does this mean that Ellen Page the Gap-Lapper couldn't find a natural gap to lap, so she had to artificially create a gap herself?

This LGBQTFIFABBQEIEIO shit is uber-confusing.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 06, 2023 05:53 PM (n+4am)

276 Good point, redacted.

Jason, why are you for homosexuals pimping out small children?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 06, 2023 05:53 PM (2YtOq)

277 All dams are a disaster waiting to happen. You needn't destroy the dam, you need only damage it and allow the water to finish it off. That much water has incredible power.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 06, 2023 05:53 PM (pohLc)

278 Are we even sure there actually is a war in Ukraine?

*************

Funny thing, I occasionally talk to women via international video chat in the Ukraine and Russia on occasion and you would never think there was a war on

Then again a lot of them also promise to love me long time, so who knows whats true

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 06, 2023 05:53 PM (VTu1l)

279 The United States is actively engaged in industrial terrorism abroad while it has a wide-open border at home. What possibly could go wrong?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 06, 2023 05:53 PM (KSNKu)

280 @272: "... new capital in Kansas City, the real centre of the country ..."

That's one way to settle the best BBQ debate.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 06, 2023 05:53 PM (k1Qly)

281 The new Capitol has to be Texarkana.

Posted by: Liebowitz at June 06, 2023 05:54 PM (i9ffA)

282 >>> 231 >You are really quite a boring fool after all. You should fuck off before we get nasty.

Oh noes! I thought "personal attacks" are against the rules here though? Nice boomer tough guy on the internet act though.
Posted by: Jason at June 06, 2023 05:40 PM (tpWNw)

Nice Tide Pod internet tough guy on the internet act.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 06, 2023 05:54 PM (llON8)

283 Anne Hathaway doing anal.

She does?

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 06, 2023 05:54 PM (RqMSv)

284 In other news , Jacob DeGrom is having Tommy John surgery again.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at June 06, 2023 05:55 PM (Eeb9P)

285 19 I still say if Putin had nuked the most recent WEF meeting he would have been declared King of the World by acclamation.
Posted by: Chuck C at June 06, 2023 05:10 PM (xttsV)


That would get me rootin' for Putin, ngl.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 06, 2023 05:55 PM (DTX3h)

286 Tori Nuland was Dick Cheney's top international advisor

are the pieces starting to fit together ?

Posted by: REDACTED at June 06, 2023 05:56 PM (us2H3)

287 Victoria Nuland is now Tori Nuland?

I am confused.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 05:56 PM (xOcf/)

288 >>> 286 Tori Nuland was Dick Cheney's top international advisor

are the pieces starting to fit together ?
Posted by: REDACTED at June 06, 2023 05:56 PM (us2H3)

The Uniparty is entirely FULL of asshoes?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 06, 2023 05:57 PM (llON8)

289 Im no expert but I think the Ukrainians would drive across Poland to reach their blow up spot instead of sailing half way around the world in their nonexistent navy boats.

Posted by: LASue at June 06, 2023 05:57 PM (Ed8Zd)

290 248 "I can't overstate the degree to which I tune out developments in "the Russia-Ukraine war."

"Yep. All I get fed are lies."

Are we even sure there actually is a war in Ukraine?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 06, 2023 05:44 PM (ou9hh)

This thought has definitely crossed my mind.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 06, 2023 05:57 PM (BdMk6)

291 I'll take drowned Russians. We still need to nuke them - Lady Graham

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 06, 2023 05:57 PM (to8pj)

292 I love how some - even officials - are saying "the Dam wasn't totally destroyed " when there's the video right there on the ."screen with the narrator saying "as you can see, the Dam was totally destroyed."
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Faytuks News Δ @Faytuks · 17h
"The mayor of Nova Kakhovka says that the upper part of the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station was destroyed as a result of shelling, but the dam itself was not destroyed" - TASS

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 06, 2023 05:57 PM (Vwz3I)

293 >>In other news , Jacob DeGrom is having Tommy John surgery again.

At least the Mets dodged that bullet.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 06, 2023 05:57 PM (ZLI7S)

294 287 Victoria Nuland is now Tori Nuland?

I am confused.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 05:56 PM (xOcf/)

It's my pet name for her

Posted by: Robert Kagan at June 06, 2023 05:58 PM (us2H3)

295 Can't wait until we send Ukraine $1 trillion to rebuild.
10% to the Big Guy

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 06, 2023 05:58 PM (RqMSv)

296 Anne Hathaway doing anal.

She does?
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 06, 2023 05:54 PM (RqMSv)

Is that how she avoids more abortions, or as she calls them, "mercies"?

Posted by: LASue at June 06, 2023 05:58 PM (Ed8Zd)

297 284 In other news , Jacob DeGrom is having Tommy John surgery again.
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at June 06, 2023 05:55 PM (Eeb9P)
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I heard that too. When healthy, he stuff is nasty. But he is never healthy. Good move by Mets not to pay him (although they paid everyone else).

Posted by: scampydog at June 06, 2023 05:58 PM (2bFN5)

298
I wish these fuckers would hold off WW!!! a couple of more weeks. A few more items to purchase and I'll be ready... to slowly die of starvation or rad poisoning. But I'll have some hot running water and lights. And a toaster that works. No bread then, but if I had some I could toast it.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 06, 2023 05:59 PM (enJYY)

299 The new Capitol has to be Texarkana.
Posted by: Liebowitz at June 06, 2023 05:54 PM (i9ffA)

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I like. Reminds me of the Beach Boys song, the title escapes me just now.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at June 06, 2023 05:59 PM (3JfbU)

300 Is this Dum-Dum returning for more thrashing? It sounds like Dum-Dum.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 06, 2023 05:59 PM (jzzG8)

301 >>"The mayor of Nova Kakhovka says that the upper part of the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station was destroyed as a result of shelling, but the dam itself was not destroyed" - TASS

Mostly peaceful

Posted by: JackStraw at June 06, 2023 05:59 PM (ZLI7S)

302 When you have water flowing over a large dam you are in deep poo.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 06, 2023 06:00 PM (pohLc)

303 The new Capitol has to be Texarkana.
Posted by: Liebowitz at June 06, 2023 05:54 PM


I don't want those idiots anywhere near me......

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 06, 2023 06:00 PM (ncXxy)

304 So the dam is mostly intact...

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 06:01 PM (xOcf/)

305 Sadly, I trust Putin more than I trust Biden.

Posted by: LASue at June 06, 2023 06:01 PM (Ed8Zd)

306 Operation Chastise has entered chat.
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First, ensure the squadron has a golden lab named "Whitey".

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 06, 2023 06:01 PM (Vwz3I)

307 "the Ukrainians would drive across Poland to reach their blow up spot"

When they got there, they'd still need advanced naval capabilities to do it surreptiously. And really good divers.

Who else but us?

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 06, 2023 06:01 PM (RqMSv)

308 When you have water flowing over a large dam you are in deep poo.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

Can't the dam simply identify as 'intact'? and then, no worries. It must be true then.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2023 06:02 PM (B/X3r)

309 51 intel agencies: Nordstream has all of the hallmarks of a Ukranian attack.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 06, 2023 06:02 PM (/6ckN)

310 the glee of reporting on Trump's legal troubles, even fox, is revolting

Posted by: REDACTED at June 06, 2023 06:02 PM (us2H3)

311 Just got here - wow - you know, there something to be admired about people who are cunning, conniving, and can lie professionally. None of these people are that - and it just becomes insulting. The press here are just behaving too stupid to breath and they really don't care.

It's not often you see this much idiocy and buffoonery concentrated over so many institutions.

Posted by: Boswell at June 06, 2023 06:02 PM (K+UlC)

312 When you have water flowing over a large dam you are in deep poo.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

Who you looking at?
You looking at me?
~Oroville

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 06, 2023 06:02 PM (52Zf5)

313 Aawww you didn't like Sqn Ldr Gibson having a black lab?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 06:03 PM (xOcf/)

314 As the official old timey reader who does not have time to post, even I don't know who that Jason clown is.

Posted by: HowardDevore at June 06, 2023 06:03 PM (H/Jxx)

315 I love how some - even officials - are saying "the Dam wasn't totally destroyed " when there's the video right there on the ."screen with the narrator saying "as you can see, the Dam was totally destroyed."
-------------------
Faytuks News Δ @Faytuks · 17h
"The mayor of Nova Kakhovka says that the upper part of the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station was destroyed as a result of shelling, but the dam itself was not destroyed" - TASS

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Hold my beer.
- NYT

"The decision by some Ukrainian soldiers to wear patches with Nazi icons threatens to reinforce Russian propaganda used to justify the invasion."

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 06, 2023 06:03 PM (SfD1B)

316 There is a war in Ukraine. It's a war to see who can get the most graft. Zelenskyyyyy is winning, but Biden is comfortably losing.

Posted by: Wally at June 06, 2023 06:04 PM (bOKah)

317
I think Hemingway described dam failures in some piece of literature he wrote, something about, 'Gradually, then suddenly.'

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 06, 2023 06:04 PM (enJYY)

318 "The mayor of Nova Kakhovka says that the upper part of the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station was destroyed as a result of shelling, but the dam itself was not destroyed" - TASS

Mostly peaceful

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Mostly pieces, and full.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 06, 2023 06:05 PM (SfD1B)

319 Nord Stream 2 didn't kill itself.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 06, 2023 06:05 PM (RqMSv)

320 I wish these fuckers would hold off WW!!! a couple of more weeks. A few more items to purchase and I'll be ready... to slowly die of starvation or rad poisoning. But I'll have some hot running water and lights. And a toaster that works. No bread then, but if I had some I could toast it.
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And multiple pairs of reading-glasses because you'll finally have all the time in the world to read!

Fool me once...

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 06, 2023 06:05 PM (Vwz3I)

321 I thought "personal attacks" are against the rules here though?
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You're not going to cry, are you

Posted by: ... at June 06, 2023 06:05 PM (lX8VI)

322 people seem to have a problem grasping Putin's concern about having weapons on his western border

I'm sure JFK woulda thought it was totes kewl is Mexico or Canada joined the Soviet Bloc

Posted by: REDACTED at June 06, 2023 06:05 PM (us2H3)

323 When you have water flowing over a large dam you are in deep poo.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

Who you looking at?
You looking at me?
~Oroville
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 06, 2023 06:02 PM (52Zf5)
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Why, no.

Posted by: San Francisquito at June 06, 2023 06:05 PM (fxrF8)

324 'Gradually, then suddenly.'

That also describes what happened to Nikolai and Elena in Romania.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 06:06 PM (xOcf/)

325 As the official old timey reader who does not have time to post, even I don't know who that Jason clown is.
Posted by: HowardDevore

The clowns all seem to list the same 'I was here when Ace' references as their bona fides.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 06, 2023 06:06 PM (52Zf5)

326 people seem to have a problem grasping Putin's concern about having weapons on his western border

--

Yep. Cuban Missile Crisis all over again, except this time we decided we'd be the bad guys.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 06, 2023 06:06 PM (SfD1B)

327 As the official old timey reader who does not have time to post, even I don't know who that Jason clown is.

Posted by: HowardDevore at June 06, 2023 06:03 PM


I have been here since the great chuckles johnson meltdown at lgf in 2009 and I can't recall ever seeing a post by jason.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 06, 2023 06:06 PM (ncXxy)

328 321 I thought "personal attacks" are against the rules here though?

you have to be a person, though

Posted by: REDACTED at June 06, 2023 06:06 PM (us2H3)

329 Out, dammed sock!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 06, 2023 06:07 PM (fxrF8)

330 Are you saying Mister Scott

That ChatGPT has entered the chat?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 06:08 PM (xOcf/)

331 Perfect timing:

@BNONews 3m
At least 4 people injured after shooting at VCU campus in Richmond, Virginia where high school graduation was taking place - WTVR/WWBT

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 06, 2023 06:08 PM (jzzG8)

332 Why, no.
Posted by: San Francisquito

Well you should be because that overflow sure ripped me up.
~Oroville

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 06, 2023 06:08 PM (52Zf5)

333 I've been here since that event that everyone jokes about at least once a day.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 06, 2023 06:08 PM (SfD1B)

334 >>> 322 people seem to have a problem grasping Putin's concern about having weapons on his western border

I'm sure JFK woulda thought it was totes kewl is Mexico or Canada joined the Soviet Bloc
Posted by: REDACTED at June 06, 2023 06:05 PM (us2H3)

otoh Bai-Den is fine with Justin Castreau having joined the CCP Bloc

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 06, 2023 06:08 PM (llON8)

335 The dam had already been damaged in two previous incidents.
❌ A possible Ukrainian strike in late Oct/Early Nov.
❌ A likely Russian explosive charge that blew up part of the roadway over the dam on 11 Nov.
(Sources: Reuters)

The dam was already under enormous strain and damaged.

Then things got worse. On 2 June, it looks like a road over the dam failed. That could be indicative of a larger structural failure.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 06, 2023 05:17 PM (Vwz3I)

Possible Ukrainian Strike?

Ukraine was lobbing HIMARS at the dam continually for weeks, which was a major reason for Russia to plan and execute a retirement from the part of Kherson district north of the river.

There is no question Ukraine tried to destroy that dam.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 06, 2023 06:08 PM (eoQWY)

336 The Polish help theory seems plausible to me. They've always hated the Russians, and not without cause.

Fun fact: The Russians sent their fleets to "visit" the U.S. in 1863 when they were putting down the Polish Insurrection for fear of them being bottled up in home ports in the event the British and French reacted.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 06, 2023 06:08 PM (i52tA)

337 I hope all his war news doesn't take the focus off Pence's big campaign appearance in Ankeny, IA tomorrow! I have t seen this much excitement in Iowa since Casey's started their Rewards program!

Posted by: Wally at June 06, 2023 06:08 PM (bOKah)

338 Reading this post brought to mind one of Churchill's statements: The truth must be protected by a bodyguard of lies. The truth of who blew up what and how the war on the ground and in the air are really going has a lot of pathological and professional bodyguards in DC and in Kiev. What a frickin' mess the DC liars have gotten us into.

Posted by: Gref at June 06, 2023 06:08 PM (AMIL/)

339 I have been here since the great chuckles johnson meltdown at lgf in 2009 and I can't recall ever seeing a post by jason.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 06, 2023 06:06 PM (ncXxy)

Me too. Does this make us protomorons?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 06, 2023 06:08 PM (pohLc)

340 He's back.

https://tinyurl.com/t5s4m8nr

Posted by: JackStraw at June 06, 2023 06:08 PM (ZLI7S)

341
@BNONews 3m
At least 4 people injured after shooting at VCU campus in Richmond, Virginia where high school graduation was taking place - WTVR/WWBT

-

This is a lie.

Guns are not allowed on campus, and it's definitely illegal to shoot people.

Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! It's a bash! at June 06, 2023 06:09 PM (SfD1B)

342 people seem to have a problem grasping Putin's concern about having weapons on his western border

I'm sure JFK woulda thought it was totes kewl is Mexico or Canada joined the Soviet Bloc
Posted by: REDACTED at June 06, 2023 06:05 PM (us2H3)

Cuban Missile Crisis?

Posted by: Oldcat at June 06, 2023 06:09 PM (eoQWY)

343 The Urkel-ainians?

Did I do that?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 06, 2023 06:09 PM (IBWqU)

344 The dam had already been damaged in two previous incidents.
❌ A possible Ukrainian strike in late Oct/Early Nov.
❌ A likely Russian explosive charge that blew up part of the roadway over the dam on 11 Nov.
(Sources: Reuters)

The dam was already under enormous strain and damaged.

Then things got worse. On 2 June, it looks like a road over the dam failed. That could be indicative of a larger structural failure.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 06, 2023 05:17 PM (Vwz3I)

What a dam shame.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 06, 2023 06:09 PM (BdMk6)

345 I thought Jason was an Argonaut. He's totes schmart.

Though, he may have gotten fleeced. I forget.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2023 06:10 PM (B/X3r)

346 In the vernacular of Real Politik what would Poland gain from helping give Russia a black eye?

If the answer ZERO then no there is about 90% chance Poland had nothing to do with this.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 06:10 PM (xOcf/)

347 Oh look, Paul has a besty posting.

Or some other turd burglar.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 06, 2023 06:10 PM (1n+EO)

348 whistleblower comes out and says that the guv has alien aircraft

and just like that, the guv discredits "whistleblowers" etal

kinda suspicious

Posted by: REDACTED at June 06, 2023 06:10 PM (us2H3)

349 I will never be part of a fanclub that Biden and the Left is in. Never. Is that too simple a position to take??

Posted by: tubal at June 06, 2023 06:10 PM (PCK5/)

350 345 I thought Jason was an Argonaut. He's totes schmart.


purty shore Jason was a butt pirate

Posted by: REDACTED at June 06, 2023 06:12 PM (us2H3)

351 Maybe paleomorons?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 06, 2023 06:12 PM (pohLc)

352 Speaking of deGrom, I saw Fergie Jenkins pitch a CG against the Dodgers on a hot day at Wrigley when he was 40 years old, and he knocked in the game winning run.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 06, 2023 06:12 PM (IBWqU)

353 Nood hits of quickness.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at June 06, 2023 06:12 PM (fxrF8)

354 Jason was the great ancestor of Joey Bidet. He dumped Medea for some floozy and Medea served Jason his own children.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 06:12 PM (xOcf/)

355 287 Victoria Nuland is now Tori Nuland?

I am confused.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 05:56 PM (xOcf/)

sounds more serious than "Vicki"

Posted by: Auspex at June 06, 2023 06:12 PM (j4U/Z)

356 Fox is going to be wailing when they see how many people are watching Tucker right now.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 06, 2023 06:13 PM (ZLI7S)

357 I got my paws on the Bob Lazar video in 1992. No reason to doubt the guy.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 06, 2023 06:13 PM (IBWqU)

358 With Ukraine swimming in unaccountable Billions of dollars, they could have hired somebody to blow the pipeline. But more likely Biden people did it

Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at June 06, 2023 06:14 PM (e9yfm)

359 100 Also, unless this was a smoking accident, Russia blowing the dam suggests the offensive is about to start.

And its probably not a sign of Russian strength.
Posted by: Harun at June 06, 2023 05:22 PM (Cg63x)

Tori Nuland has entered the chat
Posted by: REDACTED at June 06, 2023 05:25 PM (us2H3)

Oddly there are reasons for Ukraine to blow the Dam even with their repelled offensives. For whatever reason, the US and UK continue to demand an offensive directly to Crimea to "capture" it, which is insane. Last year Boris visited to push it which led to high casualties north of the river. This year, just yesterday the Brit defense minister just visited.

It might just be that UKR wanted a good excuse not to have to burn troops trying to cross the Dnepr for a while, since they are bloodying themselves up elsewhere and seem far more concerned about the Donbas region.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 06, 2023 06:14 PM (eoQWY)

360 The only reason I could postulate for the Russians to blow up a dam in the territory they control would be to slow an advancing army from occupying that territory. (See Germans retreating from the Netherlands) Since the Ukes are not advancing, the likelihood the Russian blew up their dam is extremely low.


Posted by: Archer at June 06, 2023 06:15 PM (zlq/m)

361 In the vernacular of Real Politik what would Poland gain from helping give Russia a black eye?

If the answer ZERO then no there is about 90% chance Poland had nothing to do with this.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 06, 2023 06:10 PM (xOcf/)

Well, Poland has had a bee in their bonnet about Russia for about 500 years, same as with Germany. But I don't see them busting this dam.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 06, 2023 06:16 PM (eoQWY)

362 "they could have hired somebody to blow the pipeline."

Who? Hard enough to blow it up, but to not leave evidence?

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 06, 2023 06:16 PM (RqMSv)

363 Are you saying Mister Scott

That ChatGPT has entered the chat?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Perhaps FedChatGPT?

Posted by: BifBewalski at June 06, 2023 06:17 PM (3CCua)

364 The Uniparty is entirely FULL of asshoes?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 06, 2023 05:57 PM

You're surrounded by them.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at June 06, 2023 06:17 PM (Wnv9h)

365 "the Ukrainians would drive across Poland to reach their blow up spot"

When they got there, they'd still need advanced naval capabilities to do it surreptiously. And really good divers.

Who else but us?
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 06, 2023 06:01 PM (RqMSv)

A US Task force was operating in the area in the days before the pipeline blew. I'm sure they would have no interest in mystery boats and frogmen operating in their area.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 06, 2023 06:19 PM (eoQWY)

366
He's back.

Lindsay saying, 'The best money we ever spent." Seems to be words engraved on his irradiated and frequently visited asshole.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 06, 2023 06:22 PM (enJYY)

367 357 I got my paws on the Bob Lazar video in 1992. No reason to doubt the guy.

bob lazar blew the dam? where's art bell when you need him?

Posted by: anachronda at June 06, 2023 06:28 PM (v3pYe)

368 people seem to have a problem grasping Putin's concern about having weapons on his western border

I'm sure JFK woulda thought it was totes kewl is Mexico or Canada joined the Soviet Bloc
Posted by: REDACTED at June 06, 2023 06:05 PM (us2H3)
==
Of for goodness sakes stop it - Putin has more to fear from fucking China coming up from the 'Stans than from NATO. If he had real reason to fear NATO being next to Ukraine, and maybe actually eventually being in Ukraine, every Russian unit in Ukraine would already have been vaporized.

Posted by: Black JEM at June 06, 2023 06:28 PM (HdBH7)

369 Someone named Jason has posted here before. Going back some ways too

Posted by: ... at June 06, 2023 06:32 PM (lX8VI)

370 There's this guy what owes me money. A friend recommended I hire a Mafia debt specialist. I don't know.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at June 06, 2023 06:34 PM (VdGjU)

371 Tucker was good - back to his old form I see...the best is the tautology argument that you get from the left and NRO or the Bulkward - "it is what it is, my good man - oh, how so 'tiresome' it is for me to arouse myself from the chamber slumber and have to repeat my arguments to you! You keep asking your betters the same silly questions!"

It's just the most idiotic way to argue anything - but you get that time and again from these Goucher University grads - you know - that maker of men....

Posted by: Boswell at June 06, 2023 06:34 PM (K+UlC)

372 Operation Christie has entered the race.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 06, 2023 06:41 PM (63Dwl)

373 At least in previous administrations they hid their cheerleading and support of war crimes.

Posted by: Rbastid at June 06, 2023 07:19 PM (7nXGL)

374 Intact Russian passport found floating in the bubbles

"We would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling bubbles" - Putin

Posted by: t_bodie - Lurker. Unless you are reading this. at June 06, 2023 07:23 PM (XxgMn)

375 [ii]"they could have hired somebody to blow the pipeline."

Who? Hard enough to blow it up, but to not leave evidence?
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 06, 2023 06:16 PM (RqMSv)

It is a mystery - K. Harris

Posted by: t_bodie - Lurker. Unless you are reading this. at June 06, 2023 07:26 PM (XxgMn)

376 All glory to Russia and the denazification (Azov) of Ukraine. What a difference a year makes in understanding this Slavic region's history. The Minsk agreements, 2014 backed coup in Ukraine, 2015 on 9yr shelling of the Donbass region killing 14,000 ethnic Russians.

Posted by: sherpa_k2 at June 06, 2023 07:42 PM (/KGgf)

377
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Posted by: Claudia Jackson at June 07, 2023 08:01 AM (JqEBT)

380 The US destroyed the Nordstream pipeline.

Deputy Secretary of State Nuland is on video explaining how much she wanted this event to happen. Twice.

As the above article shows, Biden wished this to happen too.

Bombing dams is a legitimate tactic in war. US engineers developed a device that bombers would simply drop on lakes. The device would float towards the dam, and then sink itself, and then explode.

It is a totally legitimate form of warfare.

Erronius

Posted by: Erronius at June 07, 2023 01:50 PM (SylNs)

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