Have You Heard the Scuttlebutt? Disney Has Another Woke Bomb On Its Hands as <i>Little Mermaid</i> is Projected to Lose Between $50 and $100 Million

Have You Heard the Scuttlebutt? Disney Has Another Woke Bomb On Its Hands as Little Mermaid is Projected to Lose Between $50 and $100 Million

A hundred million here, a hundred million there, and pretty soon you're talking real money.

I know we talked about the likelihood The Little Mermaid would flop on Friday, but we now have its second weekend box office. It dropped 58% from its first weekend to its second. That's pretty high. Not as bad as some of the worst-performing Marvel films, but high. And that second weekend drop kills any hopes that the Little Mermaid would keep generating millions every week consistently. In other words -- everyone has to do these dumb puns, it's the law-- The Little Mermaid doesn't "have legs."

Box office analyst and YouTuber OMB Reviews shared his analysis of the box office receipts for this past Memorial Day weekend and predicted that The Walt Disney Company's latest release, The Little Mermaid, "will end up being a box office flop."
In a recent video upload, the analyst began, "We're going to talk about The Little Mermaid, how it's doing okay domestically, but internationally, oh boy, this movie is in a ton of trouble. Seeing that it has had a simultaneous release in all of the major markets overseas with the one exception being Japan. However, if we are looking at the other markets in the East right now, it's not looking good at all for the prospects of this movie's international numbers. And the domestic really aren't that much better to be able to say it'll make up for any of its losses there."
He then asserted, "So what am I saying? I think there's a good chance that we'll see The Little Mermaid end up being a box office flop. And let's just say it couldn't happen to a nicer company."

Woke shill Grace Randolf admits the film won't make more than around $5-600 million, which isn't break-even considering its cost.

And also considering the fact that ticket sales are split between the studio and the actual theaters showing the film, which liberals always, always forget, or pretend to forget, when they're claiming the latest woke bomb isn't a bomb at all.

Disney booster and woke-ism champion Rudolph worries the movie will actually wind up making $400 million or so, which is a "disaster," she says.

On Midnight's Edge, they talked about liberal movie "journalists" trying to contrive some way for this movie to not lose money. One talked up the money it would get in television rights -- except that Disney no longer makes money by selling television rights. All of its properties turn into Disney Minus exclusives. To pump up Disney Minus and give people a reason to subscribe, they've chopped off one of the big secondary markets for movies, television.

They pointed out that there will be an internal payment of money from Disney Minus to the Disney movie studio to pay for the TV rights, around $75 million. But this is just a paper transaction moving money from one Disney account to another Disney account. That doesn't bring any actual money into Die Maus.

Relatedly, the leftwing shill media for years and years has been insanely protective of all woke movies, but especially woke Disney movies, routinely running Disney propaganda that the only people who don't like The Last Jedi, Lightyear, or The Little Mermaid are woman-haters and homophbes and racists. "Ists and phobes," as the shorthand has it.

But now Disney has scored so many bombs in a row that even "journalists" are actually starting to notice what the public noticed five years ago.

This article from Forbes, reprinted in Yahoo Finance, says "the Force has left Lucasfilm," and talks about Kathleen Kennedy's record of destroying one expensive IP after another.

'The Force has left Lucasfilm': What has gone wrong for the studio behind 'Star Wars' and 'Indiana Jones'--and how Disney's Bob Iger can salvage his $4 billion investment

by Christiaan Hetzner

Taking time out of his busy schedule running Disney, Bob Iger flew to the Cannes film festival in support of Harrison Ford's latest movie, even posting on social media snapshots of the aging action hero on the red carpet.
Lucasfilm Ltd. had just premiered the fifth installment in its Indiana Jones franchise and a lot is riding on the fedora-sporting, bullwhip-toting archeologist portrayed by the now 80-year-old Hollywood star. At nearly $300 million, Dial of Destiny is one of the most expensive films ever made and initial reviews suggest it could bomb big at the box office when it lands on June 30.
When Iger acquired Lucasfilm for just over $4 billion a decade ago, it paired the century-old animation company with the studio behind Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yet the match made in heaven now risks becoming an albatross around Disney's neck.
The third Skywalker trilogy started off with a bang in late 2015 with The Force Awakens, only to end with a whimper four years later as fans deserted the franchise. The studio hadn't produced a theatrical release of any kind since, allowing the Marvel Cinematic Universe--despite recent setbacks--to supplant it as Disney's cash cow.
"The Force has left Lucasfilms," said Eric Schiffer, CEO of private equity firm Patriarch Organization, in an interview. "That emotional connection it enjoyed with fans has been damaged."
The Los Angeles-based media industry investor and self-admitted Star Wars fan still counts the deal a success for Iger, but he believes it got lost producing too much subpar content for Disney.
...
Now that growth has faltered, with 4 million customers canceling their membership in the three months through March, and Wall Street is pushing Iger to end the scattergun approach of showering creators with money for new content. Instead, investors want him to end the over $10 billion in cumulative streaming losses since the launch of Disney+ three and a half years ago.

The Dial of Destiny will have to make $800 million just to break even. And that's assuming that Disney has been honest about the budget, which they almost certainly have not been. Disney is widely suspected of hiding their movies' costs, recording them as costs for other divisions, in order to hide just how poorly they've been doing under Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy's destructive leadership.

Film critic Pete Hammond recounted Iger's reaction when informed Deadline just published a rave review of the fifth Indiana Jones movie: "You could see the absolute relief on his face. 'You have made me very happy to hear that,' he told me, and he meant it.".
That's probably because first impressions have otherwise been dreadful, with a franchise-low 50% score on Rotten Tomatoes as of writing. Vanity Fair proclaimed it "not worthy of the whip", while the BBC felt Ford's globe-trotting adventurer had been relegated to a background figure in his own film, included mainly for the purpose of being upstaged by younger co-star Phoebe Waller-Bridge.
"I'm not sure how many fans want to see Indiana Jones as a broken, helpless old man who cowers in the corner while his patronizing goddaughter takes the lead, but that's what we're given, and it's as bleak as it sounds," the BBC wrote, branding it a "gloomy and depressing" final act.
With Disney needing to shell out $9 billion at least to buy Comcast out of Hulu as early as next year, the last thing Iger needs is bad word of mouth building over the next four weeks to asphyxiate any hopes of blockbuster success.
Right now, though, grim news is all that Lucasfilm has to offer the Disney CEO. An attempt to expand on the lore of its 1988 fantasy tale Willow flopped hard when the series debuted on Disney+ in November.
Not only was it canceled after the first of three seasons, but the show was banished entirely from the platform as part of a thorough spring cleaning. Critics argued Willow in retrospect would have been more valuable to Disney as a tax write-off than as actual content for subscribers.
At the heart of this mess is Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy....
Antagonized by the perceived shabby treatment of their childhood heroes, fewer and fewer fans showed up from one movie to the next. The third and final installment, Rise of Skywalker, only took in half of the $2 billion that premiere film The Force Awakens made for Disney.
It's perhaps no wonder that the company's $5,000-per-package Star Wars-themed hotel, the "Galactic Starcruiser", is shutting down. The tactical mistake of placing it in the timeline of the Disney sequel trilogy doomed it to a lifespan of just 18 months after opening.

I know that you know all this. Sorry about telling you a bunch of stuff you already knew.

But the news here is that the alleged "news media" has begun to piece this non-scoop together.

BTW, I had written earlier that Disney wants to buy Comcast out of their shared ownership of Hulu. This article says that Disney is required to do so -- and they need to come up with $9 billion (or more) in cash to do that.

Yes, the Hulu deal is a requirement... and Disney is panicking, so they are trying to devalue Hulu as much as possible over the next 12 months and negotiate an out...
Posted by: Nova Local

Oh, LOL. If that's true we should all sign up for Hulu!!!! Then cancel after Disney is forced to pay out $9 billion.

(But I don't know if it's true.)

Note that Nova made a mistake (which he pointed out) about how much this will cost Disney. Hulu is worth somewhere around $28 billion, and Comcast's one-third share is worth a bit over $9 billion.

I don't know if a Mass Subscription Effort -- the opposite of a boycott -- would jack up the value of Hulu and hurt Disney. I hope a geek media channel looks into this and gets us an answer.

Comments

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1 A Country Coyote Goes Transvestite

Posted by: JROD at June 05, 2023 04:41 PM (IlL6s)

2 The time machine returns!

Posted by: Catherine at June 05, 2023 04:41 PM (ZSsrh)

3 Escape From Fag Mountain

Posted by: JROD at June 05, 2023 04:42 PM (IlL6s)

4 Even Grace Randolph says it's a failure.

She twitched a little when admitting it might not hit $500m.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 05, 2023 04:42 PM (k1Qly)

5 "Seeing that it has had a simultaneous release in all of the major markets overseas with the one exception being Japan. "

Where they just made ThenLittle Mermaid into sushi.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 05, 2023 04:42 PM (nCaYE)

6 It ain't Blackrock's money they are flushing down the toilet, but they get to vote like their money's on the line.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 05, 2023 04:42 PM (geOz+)

7 >>>She twitched a little when admitting it might not hit $500m.

it was glorious.

Posted by: ace at June 05, 2023 04:42 PM (KRtlO)

8 That's a lot of red.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and David Ogilvy. at June 05, 2023 04:42 PM (nbo+T)

9 Bedknobs And Broomsticks........nuff said.

Posted by: JROD at June 05, 2023 04:42 PM (IlL6s)

10 Yup. Ace mentioned Grace. Shoulda read content before commenting.

*slaps himself*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 05, 2023 04:43 PM (k1Qly)

11 Pete's Homo Dragon

Posted by: JROD at June 05, 2023 04:43 PM (IlL6s)

12 Was a lot of red.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and David Ogilvy. at June 05, 2023 04:43 PM (nbo+T)

13 The funniest thing here is they'll have to pay Kennedy $100 million to go the f' away.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 05, 2023 04:44 PM (jzzG8)

14 Did you ever see a rat that has ingested strychnine? It twitch's, stumbles, runs into walls, and finally dies foaming at the mouth. This is what I hope for for Mickey and the gang.

Posted by: Maj. Healey - Researching The Water Quality In Uganda at June 05, 2023 04:44 PM (to8pj)

15 Shitter-Shitter Bang Bang

Posted by: JROD at June 05, 2023 04:44 PM (IlL6s)

16 People willing to see Indy 5 after Indy 4 are special.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 05, 2023 04:45 PM (ppBhU)

17 What they lose at the box office, they will make up by selling the popular Arieliqua action figures during the Juneteenth celebration.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 05, 2023 04:45 PM (WcwJt)

18 9 Bedknobs And Broomsticks........nuff said.

knob jobs and Groomsticks

Posted by: And it hurts my head at June 05, 2023 04:45 PM (og5mY)

19 Bedknobs And Broomsticks........nuff said.
Posted by: JROD at June 05, 2023 04:42 PM (IlL6s)

Pete the Dragon territory...

Posted by: Boswell at June 05, 2023 04:46 PM (K+UlC)

20 Cinderfella

Posted by: And it hurts my head at June 05, 2023 04:46 PM (og5mY)

21 Mary Poppin' Amyl Nitrate

Posted by: JROD at June 05, 2023 04:46 PM (IlL6s)

22 If you're paying these people a single penny, you're part of the problem.

They hate your guts. Why are you paying them to hate your guts?

Last movie I saw in a theater was 'Saving Private Ryan.' And it will remain the last movie I saw in a theater.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at June 05, 2023 04:47 PM (Qt4kF)

23 Snow White Supremist

Posted by: And it hurts my head at June 05, 2023 04:47 PM (og5mY)

24 Why, we've been providing quality family entertainment since Steamroom Willie!

Posted by: Disney Flack at June 05, 2023 04:47 PM (z+89e)

25 not sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 04:48 PM (LvTSG)

26 Isn't Scuttle the name of the crab friend? So "butt" has been added, I'd say that the crustacean was identifying as gay except that now the character is apparently feminine..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2023 04:48 PM (Keyt1)

27 So Doomcock is finally going to be proved correct. Kennedy will be jettisoned after this mess. Well maybe, sources say.
Disney is hemorrhaging money so a lot me re people vare going to get the boot.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 05, 2023 04:48 PM (/xTJs)

28 I think I have the solution for Disney. They need more Bud Light and Target product placement in their movies.

Posted by: Montec at June 05, 2023 04:49 PM (OalnH)

29 It's a bad remake of the original. They took out the love story, with the boy rescuing her at the end after she rescued him in the beginning. Now she rescues them all, which makes the boy character superfluous.

A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. Heh

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 05, 2023 04:49 PM (RqMSv)

30 It's OK, they will make it up on volume.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 05, 2023 04:49 PM (ncXxy)

31 damn, could have been first, but read the content.

and it turned out to be a movie review...

eh, f disney...

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 05, 2023 04:49 PM (Mkvkw)

32 And also considering the fact that ticket sales are split between the studio and the actual theaters showing the film, which liberals always, always forget, or pretend to forget, when they're claiming the latest woke bomb isn't a bomb at all.

Disney booster and woke-ism champion Rudolph worries the movie will actually wind up making $400 million or so, which is a "disaster," she says.

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The contracts are individually agreed upon, but it generally ends up being about 60% of the ticket price goes to the studio over the life of a movie in theaters. The earlier, the more the studio makes, and the longer it goes on, the more the theaters make.

Plus, it changes per country with places like China insisting on very large takes of ticket sales that Disney (nor any other studio) can negotiate out of.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 04:49 PM (LvTSG)

33 My beloved Chiefs went to the White House to-day, and I’m as torn over it as I am over a Broncos/Raiders game (“Can they *both lose???”

. Why oh why did they have to give GrandpaPants a jersey??
Fingers crossed, Travis left with it under his shirt. He was promising to pull a National Treasure there anyway…
p.s.: love to Teej!!

Posted by: Shopgirl at June 05, 2023 04:49 PM (ohkhF)

34 Worth mentioning that the Studio Entertainment division (films) averages around ~15% of overall company revenues. I think stat gets lost in some of the discussions when Disney itself appears much bigger. They can't tolerate tentpole movie losses indefinitely.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 05, 2023 04:49 PM (k1Qly)

35 Willowed:

Oooo...

Doomcock says that Iger is ready to fire Kathleen Kennedy.

That would be a shame. Her work of destruction is not yet complete.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 04:50 PM (eOEVl)

36 26 Isn't Scuttle the name of the crab friend? So "butt" has been added, I'd say that the crustacean was identifying as gay except that now the character is apparently feminine..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2023 04:48 PM (Keyt1)

Sebastian is the crab's name IIRC. Scuttle is the seagull friend.

Posted by: Thrawn at June 05, 2023 04:50 PM (Rl7KJ)

37 >>>The contracts are individually agreed upon, but it generally ends up being about 60% of the ticket price goes to the studio over the life of a movie in theaters. The earlier, the more the studio makes, and the longer it goes on, the more the theaters make.

For the US market. Overseas, the studios take a smaller cut.

In China, they get peanuts. Like 30%.

Posted by: ace at June 05, 2023 04:50 PM (KRtlO)

38 Last movie I saw in a theatre was "It Ain't Over" about Yogi Berra. It was a really good movie and not produced by Disney.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2023 04:50 PM (Keyt1)

39 The Dial of Destiny will have to make $800 million just to break even. And that's assuming that Disney has been honest about the budget, which they almost certainly have not been. Disney is widely suspected of hiding their movies' costs, recording them as costs for other divisions, in order to hide just how poorly they've been doing under Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy's destructive leadership.

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Yeah, the reported reshoots sounds...expensive.

I'd guess the film cost $500 million to make, and they'll probably spend at least $200 million to market it.

It'll need to be a very successful film. Like, Avatar successful.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 04:51 PM (LvTSG)

40 Bedknobs And Broomsticks........nuff said.

I believe that is one of the more popular categories on XHamster.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 04:51 PM (eOEVl)

41 Posted by: Thrawn at June 05, 2023 04:50 PM (Rl7KJ)

Darn! That ruined my joke.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2023 04:52 PM (Keyt1)

42 BTW, I had written earlier that Disney wants to buy Comcast out of their shared ownership of Hulu. This article says that Disney is required to do so -- and they need to come up with $9 billion (or more) in cash to do that.

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But, Paul doesn't know the difference between Gross Profit and Net Profit, which means that all of the panic and shakeups at Disney (remember when Iger wasn't CEO? it was like a year ago) are just for show, or something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 04:52 PM (LvTSG)

43 Steam Room Willie

LMFAO!!!!

Posted by: JROD at June 05, 2023 04:52 PM (IlL6s)

44 >>>Doomcock says that Iger is ready to fire Kathleen Kennedy.

Doomcocktease, you mean.

Posted by: ace at June 05, 2023 04:52 PM (KRtlO)

45 Isn't Scuttle the name of the crab friend? So "butt" has been added, I'd say that the crustacean was identifying as gay except that now the character is apparently feminine..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2023 04:48 PM (Keyt1)

They added that but Scuttlebutt is an old Navy term for watercooler rumors - it's how the enlisted on the ship or command tried to get an inside scoop on what was happening in the CPO Mess or the Wardroom - known mostly for its universal wrongness.

Posted by: Boswell at June 05, 2023 04:52 PM (K+UlC)

46 37 >>>The contracts are individually agreed upon, but it generally ends up being about 60% of the ticket price goes to the studio over the life of a movie in theaters. The earlier, the more the studio makes, and the longer it goes on, the more the theaters make.

For the US market. Overseas, the studios take a smaller cut.

In China, they get peanuts. Like 30%.
Posted by: ace at June 05, 2023 04:50 PM (KRtlO)

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So said my second paragraph! Stop reading my mind!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 04:52 PM (LvTSG)

47 President of Lucasfilm. Twisting the dagger between George's ribs. Infamy piled upon infamy. I got my cake and get to eat.

Posted by: 13times at June 05, 2023 04:52 PM (7Tb4o)

48 44 >>>Doomcock says that Iger is ready to fire Kathleen Kennedy.

Doomcocktease, you mean.
Posted by: ace at June 05, 2023 04:52 PM (KRtlO)

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I was only partially quoted in the willowed comment. I had also said, "I wonder if that's an upgrade or downgrade from being "about to fire" her like he's said for the past 3 years."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 04:53 PM (LvTSG)

49 Often, the theaters don't get a dime from the first week's ticket sales, as the studios want every last dime.

After the first week, the theaters start to get a piece of the ticket sale. Otherwise, it's just the popcorn keeping the lights on at the theater.

Posted by: SMOD at June 05, 2023 04:53 PM (RHGPo)

50 Laugh and mock them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO-pJiXywuU

Posted by: Maj. Healey - Researching The Water Quality In Uganda at June 05, 2023 04:53 PM (to8pj)

51 They added that but Scuttlebutt is an old Navy term for watercooler rumors - it's how the enlisted on the ship or command tried to get an inside scoop on what was happening in the CPO Mess or the Wardroom - known mostly for its universal wrongness.

For the reason that a scuttlebutt and a water cooler are essentially the same thing. A scuttlebutt was a water barrel for the crew.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 04:54 PM (eOEVl)

52 49 Often, the theaters don't get a dime from the first week's ticket sales, as the studios want every last dime.

After the first week, the theaters start to get a piece of the ticket sale. Otherwise, it's just the popcorn keeping the lights on at the theater.
Posted by: SMOD at June 05, 2023 04:53 PM (RHGPo)

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I remember reading that Fox got 90% of ticket sales on the first week of Episode 1 more than 20 years ago, and that was an unprecedented contract at the time.

I don't know if its now very precedented with every major release getting that now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 04:54 PM (LvTSG)

53 I should have written for Disney, because I think "scuttle" is a much better name for a crab than a seagull.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2023 04:54 PM (Keyt1)

54 So said my second paragraph! Stop reading my mind!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 04:52 PM (LvTSG)

It's easy when it's spread out across these gray boxes.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 05, 2023 04:54 PM (eYoxG)

55 >>>Often, the theaters don't get a dime from the first week's ticket sales, as the studios want every last dime.

no it's not quite that bad. I think Disney demands the most, and it's 90% for the first week (or first two weeks), then it drops. I don't know if other studios demand 90%.

I don't think Disney will be able to keep making this demand for much longer.

Posted by: ace at June 05, 2023 04:54 PM (KRtlO)

56 Speaking of losers, it seems Chuck Todd is leaving Meet the Mess. Off to do other things more suitable, like stand behind the local 7-11 and hustle for Slurpees.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 05, 2023 04:54 PM (nCaYE)

57 Woke shill Grace Randolf admits the film won't make more than around $5-600 million, which isn't break-even considering its cost.
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From what I've read, it is north of $300 million when marketing (which there is a lot of) factored in. Domestic cut of the box office is better than foreign (and foreign generally is better than the shit show of the China take), but we're looking at needing around $600 million to break even. That's going to take some very long legs that it doesn't appear the movie has, especially not internationally.

Unless this movie pulls a "Dumbo" and foreign audiences start loving it and buying out showings in weeks 3-7, it's probably a loser for Disney. Not a catastrophe, but a loser.

Indiana Jones 5 is likely to be a catastrophe, since it will probably need to be in the billion dollar club just to break even...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 04:55 PM (DU+/6)

58 Hey, remember Bird Box?

They made a sequel to Bird Box!

Wait...you don't remember Bird Box? It was the biggest movie of the week once!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 04:55 PM (LvTSG)

59 Otherwise, it's just the popcorn keeping the lights on at the theater.
Posted by: SMOD at June 05, 2023 04:53 PM (RHGPo)

Sounds interesting. Can we expand this energy-producing popcorn to power a new green economy on a larger scale?

Posted by: Sandy "I Wish These Were Brains" Cortez at June 05, 2023 04:55 PM (ivvNA)

60 But now Disney has scored so many bombs in a row that even "journalists" are actually starting to notice what the public noticed five years ago.
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Perhaps, yeah. I noted this in the post-Cannes disaster for Indy 5. The shill media aren't shilling for it like they usually do. This could be a one-off and that Disney has okayed kneecapping Lucasfilm right now for other reasons, but we will see.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 04:57 PM (DU+/6)

61 Last movie I saw in theaters was Boss Baby 2. One of my kids really wanted to see it and so we went. That was 2 years ago. Before that I really can't remember. There's a good chance I'll never go to another one again.

Posted by: Montec at June 05, 2023 04:57 PM (OalnH)

62 I think I read here the other day the the movie is not playing well overseas???

Posted by: tubal at June 05, 2023 04:57 PM (PCK5/)

63 They can look on the bright side. They all wanted the ability to virtue signaling by saying they work for a non-profit. Well, now they do.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 05, 2023 04:57 PM (TgBWG)

64 On Midnight's Edge, they talked about liberal movie "journalists" trying to contrive some way for this movie to not lose money. One talked up the money it would get in television rights -- except that Disney no longer makes money by selling television rights. All of its properties turn into Disney Minus exclusives.

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yeah, I saw a spate of cope tweets using bizaarre mettrics like "LM surpassed the box office of original".

from outlets I've never heard of.

...or "LM box office exceeds $300M"...like oh, is that good?

Posted by: sockamster, gator at June 05, 2023 04:57 PM (MLrvz)

65 60 Perhaps, yeah. I noted this in the post-Cannes disaster for Indy 5. The shill media aren't shilling for it like they usually do. This could be a one-off and that Disney has okayed kneecapping Lucasfilm right now for other reasons, but we will see.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 04:57 PM (DU+/6)

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You mentioned Dumbo. They did it for Dumbo, and I'm pretty sure it's because they realized way too late that Tim Burton had made an anti-Disney film with Disney money, so they let it die on the vine.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 04:58 PM (LvTSG)

66 I had not realized how many White Supremacists there were in Asia.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 05, 2023 04:58 PM (TgBWG)

67 >>>62 I think I read here the other day the the movie is not playing well overseas???

yes, it's doing worse overseas. It's doing so poorly overseas that the shills have stopped calling Americans racist for five minutes to call foreigners racists.

Not gonna lie, I enjoy the break.

Posted by: ace at June 05, 2023 04:58 PM (KRtlO)

68 Perhaps, yeah. I noted this in the post-Cannes disaster for Indy 5. The shill media aren't shilling for it like they usually do. This could be a one-off and that Disney has okayed kneecapping Lucasfilm right now for other reasons, but we will see.

It suggests that the shill media are starting to worry about their own bottom line. If you're consistently not just wrong, but heroically wrong, people stop taking you seriously, and then stop consuming your product altogether.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 04:58 PM (eOEVl)

69 BTW, I had written earlier that Disney wants to buy Comcast out of their shared ownership of Hulu. This article says that Disney is required to do so -- and they need to come up with $9 billion (or more) in cash to do that.
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I think that the ball is in Comcast's court, but I am not sure. When the contract is up, they can compel Disney to buy them out, or they can come to other terms. From the recent earnings call, Disney seems to be assuming that buyout is going to happen and then Disney will merge Hulu and D+, get rid of some redundancy and try to make some money on it like Zazlav is trying to do with the newly-rebranded "Max" service.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 04:58 PM (DU+/6)

70 14 Did you ever see a rat that has ingested strychnine? It twitch's, stumbles, runs into walls, and finally dies foaming at the mouth. This is what I hope for for Mickey and the gang.

that is PERFECT- that's exactly what Disney has become

fun to watch!

btw the ending of the Indiana Jones series was MOVIE THREE

the ending of Star Wars series was also MOVIE THREE (or whatever the hell number Return of the Jedi was)

three is the magic number, Karen-leen Kennedy. stop bleeding these poor lame stories

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 05, 2023 04:59 PM (w0NJk)

71 Speaking of losers, it seems Chuck Todd is leaving Meet the Mess. Off to do other things more suitable, like stand behind the local 7-11 and hustle for Slurpees.

Link; https://tinyurl.com/2p98rtte

Posted by: Marcus T at June 05, 2023 04:59 PM (nCaYE)

72 My favorite is when Grace Randolph eventually gives in and admits that firms she gave good reviews to are actually garbage. She's had to do so pretty regularly, lately. She never mentions the positive press she gave them at the time, though, nor the fact that she implied that people weren't gonna see the film were 'ists and 'Phobes.

Posted by: Xander Crews at June 05, 2023 04:59 PM (MpOGS)

73 68 It suggests that the shill media are starting to worry about their own bottom line. If you're consistently not just wrong, but heroically wrong, people stop taking you seriously, and then stop consuming your product altogether.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 04:58 PM (eOEVl)

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If ratings don't matter at the cable news channel level, do clicks really matter at the corporate website level?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 04:59 PM (LvTSG)

74 You mentioned Dumbo. They did it for Dumbo, and I'm pretty sure it's because they realized way too late that Tim Burton had made an anti-Disney film with Disney money, so they let it die on the vine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 04:58 PM (LvTSG)
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And Europe bailed out Dumbo.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 04:59 PM (DU+/6)

75 In other woke goring broke news, Target down another 2% today. On may 17th it was $160. Today it closed at $130. That's a 19% drop.

Posted by: Montec at June 05, 2023 04:59 PM (OalnH)

76 >>>72 My favorite is when Grace Randolph eventually gives in and admits that firms she gave good reviews to are actually garbage. She's had to do so pretty regularly, lately. She never mentions the positive press she gave them at the time, though, nor the fact that she implied that people weren't gonna see the film were 'ists and 'Phobes.

Helllll-Oh!

Posted by: Grace Randolph at June 05, 2023 04:59 PM (KRtlO)

77 Disney is required to buy those Comcast shares? Why? And what happens if they can't come up with the cash?

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 05, 2023 04:59 PM (Wy1BU)

78 Speaking of losers, it seems Chuck Todd is leaving Meet the Mess. Off to do other things more suitable, like stand behind the local 7-11 and hustle for Slurpees.

He lacks a college degree, but you can be sure he'll be offered a professorship at Harvard.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 05:00 PM (eOEVl)

79 In other woke goring broke news, Target down another 2% today. On may 17th it was $160. Today it closed at $130. That's a 19% drop.

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it's weird the stock price dips when ... are there sales figures yet?

Posted by: sockamster, gator at June 05, 2023 05:00 PM (MLrvz)

80 I think I watched one-half of one video by Grace Randolph.

It was the Nerd Crew, but just a one woman show.

I miss the Nerd Crew. That was funny shit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 05:00 PM (LvTSG)

81 Where are the shareholders' class action lawsuits?

/rhetorical -- fear of being canceled by the #Woke mob

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 05, 2023 05:00 PM (QNdPI)

82 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 04:55 PM (DU+/6)

I can guarantee Disney a 5.4% yield on that $300 million.

That's the real calculation. Not that they aren't going to make any money, but that they have foregone profits that they need to maintain shareholder value.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 05, 2023 05:00 PM (ZCCyW)

83 The last movie I saw in the theatre was Raiders of the Lasy Jedi.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at June 05, 2023 05:00 PM (eGTCV)

84 Yes, the Hulu deal is a requirement - and it's not $9B - right now, it's something like $28B and Disney is panicking, so they are trying to devalue Hulu as much as possible over the next 12 months and negotiate an out...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2023 05:00 PM (exHjb)

85 You mentioned Dumbo. They did it for Dumbo, and I'm pretty sure it's because they realized way too late that Tim Burton had made an anti-Disney film with Disney money, so they let it die on the vine.

hm now I want to watch Dumbo

it looked so grey tho. as did The Little Mermaid. why is that? they definitely don't cheap out on the CGI with these supposedly non-animated abominations ... someone doesn't like bright colors?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 05, 2023 05:00 PM (w0NJk)

86 There were a lot of Disney offerings I enjoyed back in the day… kind of sad that they have went to the Dark Side..

Posted by: tubal at June 05, 2023 05:01 PM (PCK5/)

87 Maybe Disney can just have a garage sale, selling off tolled 2000 Leagues ships and Splash Mountain animitronics.

Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2023 05:01 PM (emolE)

88 My favorite is when Grace Randolph eventually gives in and admits that firms she gave good reviews to are actually garbage. She's had to do so pretty regularly, lately. She never mentions the positive press she gave them at the time, though, nor the fact that she implied that people weren't gonna see the film were 'ists and 'Phobes.
Posted by: Xander Crews at June 05, 2023 04:59 PM (MpOGS)
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My favorite is when Chrissie Mayr impersonates Randolph on "Friday Night Tights." I don't watch that program - multi-hour livestreams about movies aren't my cup of tea - but those segments are funny.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 05:01 PM (DU+/6)

89 Hollywood will be bankrupt and forgotten in about 20 years.

The public has moved on from box office mega hits. Movies are boring, woke and stupid for the most part.

Mark Wahlberg is trying to open a new studio in Las Vegas. He will not be focusing on woke ploys or unnecessary remakes.

I hope Hollywood is happy. They have ruined a cash cow for gays, trannies and groomers.

Posted by: Czech Chick at June 05, 2023 05:01 PM (6Tc2R)

90 >>>77 Disney is required to buy those Comcast shares? Why? And what happens if they can't come up with the cash?

1, I think so, 2, I dunno, 3, I dunno.

I'm very well-informed. I'm part of The Media!

Posted by: ace at June 05, 2023 05:01 PM (KRtlO)

91 As I mentioned before, Mermaid is doing okay in the US but is bombing overseas, just disastrous. As it stands right now:

DOMESTIC: $186,207,067
INTERNATIONAL: $140,500,000
China alone: $2,509,510

And Domestic dropped off heavily after opening weekend.

Dial of Destiny cannot possibly make money, it like Marvels has cost so much to just make and has such a bad feel ahead of time they have to be absolutely AMAZING to make money

I should have written for Disney, because I think "scuttle" is a much better name for a crab than a seagull.

Yeah I thought it WAS the crab at first.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2023 05:01 PM (0hOvj)

92 84 Yes, the Hulu deal is a requirement - and it's not $9B - right now, it's something like $28B and Disney is panicking, so they are trying to devalue Hulu as much as possible over the next 12 months and negotiate an out...

ok so you're saying I shouldn't cancel Hulu right now then? maybe get subs for the kids too?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 05, 2023 05:01 PM (w0NJk)

93 Dumbo was just a bad movie all around.

Posted by: Montec at June 05, 2023 05:01 PM (OalnH)

94 If ratings don't matter at the cable news channel level, do clicks really matter at the corporate website level?

Ask Vice.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 05:01 PM (eOEVl)

95 ...Not as bad as some of the worst-performing Marvel films, but high...

Best news we've had all day! May we use that in our literature?

Posted by: Disney Marketing Dept. at June 05, 2023 05:01 PM (bt2PN)

96 85 hm now I want to watch Dumbo

it looked so grey tho. as did The Little Mermaid. why is that? they definitely don't cheap out on the CGI with these supposedly non-animated abominations ... someone doesn't like bright colors?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 05, 2023 05:00 PM (w0NJk)

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I'm not the biggest Tim Burton fan, but I liked Dumbo. The first 60 minutes is the straight up remake of the original (which itself was only 60 minutes long) and then it goes into, essentially, a sequel where Dumbo gets "hired" by a major corporation of a circus, and it's a deadening, evil experience that he must be saved from.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 05:02 PM (LvTSG)

97 , Target down another 2% today. On may 17th it was $160. Today it closed at $130.

We've upgraded our stock rating to "Its a Steal!"

Posted by: Urban Jogger Investments at June 05, 2023 05:02 PM (WcwJt)

98 Keep the theatrical boycott going.

Boogeyman, this weekend's Disney fail, has a $35M production budget and opened under $15M, so it will be another non-money maker for Disney theatrical. Keep them coming. Keep skipping Disney theatrical movies (use free Redbox codes or free streaming later if you must watch them)...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2023 05:02 PM (exHjb)

99 Re: Disney losing yet more money

*insert the Elmo Burning meme*

More, faster, please!

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at June 05, 2023 05:02 PM (xxG/v)

100 94 If ratings don't matter at the cable news channel level, do clicks really matter at the corporate website level?

Ask Vice.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 05:01 PM (eOEVl)

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They got bought, though. The brand lives on, despite being a generally terrible investment. Weird, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 05:03 PM (LvTSG)

101 "Mermaid detected, sir!

Torpedo, los!"

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at June 05, 2023 05:03 PM (2tUFv)

102 Maybe Disney can just have a garage sale, selling off tolled 2000 Leagues ships and Splash Mountain animitronics. Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2023 05:01 PM (emolE)

They might sell off the Disney created animation characters, films and such. Not sure if that will get them enough, but there is a market for it.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2023 05:03 PM (xhaym)

103 Nova, how sure are you of that?

If Disney needs to devalue Hulu, would it make sense for every conservative to subscribe to Hulu to jack up its value to force Disney to spend $28 or more billion?

(And then cancel post-sale?)

Posted by: ace at June 05, 2023 05:03 PM (KRtlO)

104 The math keeps saying that Disney needs to go even more woke to improve product and sales.

Did I mention it was Retard Math? I guess not. I will now. They use Retard Math.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at June 05, 2023 05:03 PM (aXxgO)

105 it looked so grey tho. as did The Little Mermaid. why is that? they definitely don't cheap out on the CGI with these supposedly non-animated abominations ... someone doesn't like bright colors?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 05, 2023 05:00 PM (w0NJk)
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Because CGI-heavy movies - even with top-tier CGI - look fake and bad. Making it darker can make that less-obvious.

The Little Mermaid has so much CGI and motion capture and green-screening that it makes me wonder why they bothered doing a "live action" remake. It is only sort of live action. It's still basically a cartoon, albeit a worse one because it faces real-world human and engineering constraints.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 05:03 PM (DU+/6)

106 The contracts are individually agreed upon, but it generally ends up being about 60% of the ticket price goes to the studio over the life of a movie in theaters. The earlier, the more the studio makes, and the longer it goes on, the more the theaters make.

For the US market. Overseas, the studios take a smaller cut.

In China, they get peanuts. Like 30%.

Posted by: ace at June 05, 2023 04:50 PM

The thing with the Chinese market is that the CCP has 100% total editorial control of every movie that is shown in China. If they don't approve your movie you lose access to that ginormous market.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 05, 2023 05:04 PM (ncXxy)

107 Boogeyman, this weekend's Disney fail, has a $35M production budget and opened under $15M, so it will be another non-money maker for Disney theatrical. Keep them coming. Keep skipping Disney theatrical movies (use free Redbox codes or free streaming later if you must watch them)...

definitely boycotting Boogeyman and I'm a horror film fan - but Stephen King was my reason.

now I have two reasons! cool

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 05, 2023 05:04 PM (w0NJk)

108 Maybe Disney can just have a garage sale, selling off tolled 2000 Leagues ships and Splash Mountain animitronics.

I'd definitely bid on the super groovy black light paintings from Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 05:04 PM (eOEVl)

109 Former FBI agent turned Russian spy Robert Hanssen, 79, found dead in prison: ‘Most damaging spy in Bureau history’

Posted by: SMOD at June 05, 2023 05:04 PM (RHGPo)

110 that writer strike can't help.

Posted by: sockamster, gator at June 05, 2023 05:04 PM (MLrvz)

111 @35: "Doomcock says that Iger is ready to fire Kathleen Kennedy."

In other news, Fidel Castro is still (not) dead.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 05, 2023 05:04 PM (k1Qly)

112 108 Maybe Disney can just have a garage sale, selling off tolled 2000 Leagues ships and Splash Mountain animitronics.

I'd definitely bid on the super groovy black light paintings from Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 05:04 PM (eOEVl)

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Splash Mountain is gone, I think. They're changing it into something else.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 05:04 PM (LvTSG)

113 Because CGI-heavy movies - even with top-tier CGI - look fake and bad. Making it darker can make that less-obvious.

The Little Mermaid has so much CGI and motion capture and green-screening that it makes me wonder why they bothered doing a "live action" remake. It is only sort of live action. It's still basically a cartoon, albeit a worse one because it faces real-world human and engineering constraints.

that makes sense Joe

it's so awful

The Jungle Book was horrible - just all CGI to the point where I didn't understand how it was live action at all?!?!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 05, 2023 05:05 PM (w0NJk)

114 Why watch a new version of Dumbo? Or any other of the originals, for that matter? They were great, just watch them again.

In Dumbo, as in Old Yeller, Disney made a movie in which guys can admit to tears. That was then.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 05, 2023 05:05 PM (TgBWG)

115 For some odd reason, YT decided to drop a bunch of the Bad Movie Review videos on my feed today and yesterday featuring the Women In Prison genre.

Maybe Disney should try that route but the wokesters would find a way to screw this moneymaker up.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at June 05, 2023 05:05 PM (xxG/v)

116
Jizzney Plus > > Disney Minus.

Posted by: Joe Mama at June 05, 2023 05:05 PM (lZVy/)

117 >>>Splash Mountain is gone, I think. They're changing it into something else.

Sploosh mountain, I heard.

Posted by: Cheryl Tunt at June 05, 2023 05:06 PM (KRtlO)

118 Splash Mountain is gone, I think. They're changing it into something else.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 05:04 PM (LvTSG)

____

Something gay and fabulous!!

Posted by: Montec at June 05, 2023 05:06 PM (OalnH)

119 Maybe Disney can just have a garage sale, selling off tolled 2000 Leagues ships and Splash Mountain animitronics.
Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2023 05:01 PM (emolE)

Uh, it isn't Splash Mountain anymore, bigot. That's been deemed racist 'n' crap.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 05, 2023 05:06 PM (jGGMD)

120 ok so you're saying I shouldn't cancel Hulu right now then? maybe get subs for the kids too?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 05, 2023 05:01 PM (w0NJk)
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Holy shit, that would be an amazing consumer action if you could find a way to orchestrate it.

"Subscribe to Hulu for $8/month until February of next year. Yes, it sucks. Yes, it's feeding the beast. Yes, that company hates you. But for $64 plus tax, we can crank the value up and force Disney to ludicrously overpay when it is forced to buy out the company, then we all cancel within a single month and detonate the division's value on the Disney balance sheet."

I love that idea.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 05:06 PM (DU+/6)

121 Speaking of losers, it seems Chuck Todd is leaving Meet the Mess. Off to do other things more suitable, like stand behind the local 7-11 and hustle for Slurpees.

He lacks a college degree, but you can be sure he'll be offered a professorship at Harvard.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 05:00 PM (eOEVl)

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The Brian Shelter Assness Chair.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 05, 2023 05:06 PM (QNdPI)

122 Maybe Disney can just have a garage sale, selling off tolled 2000 Leagues ships and Splash Mountain animitronics.

They have actually been selling off old Disney World parts, props, etc.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2023 05:06 PM (0hOvj)

123 Maybe Disney can just have a garage sale,…

They kind of are. I’ve been noticing a lot of Disney movies in the cheap section of Apple’s movie store over the last few months. That’s something that used to be anathema at Disney. Even to the point of withholding DVDs and VHS tapes from the market to make them more desirable when they were available.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 05, 2023 05:06 PM (EXyHK)

124 no it's not quite that bad. I think Disney demands the most, and it's 90% for the first week (or first two weeks), then it drops. I don't know if other studios demand 90%.

I don't think Disney will be able to keep making this demand for much longer.

Posted by: ace at June 05, 2023 04:54 PM (KRtlO)

Disney was 65% for their biggest stuff with requirements for biggest screens and PLF for X weeks...those days are now gonna be over after their last 2 years. They'll probably only get those terms for Avatar going forward. They were always the most punitive to US theater owners, so this boycott couldn't be happening to a better company...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2023 05:06 PM (exHjb)

125 The senate is going to demand a $100B bailout of Disney. The House will offer $75B with an option to repeat every year for 5 years and call it the biggest Disney funding cut in history.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 05, 2023 05:07 PM (dDq4o)

126 As a female, what am I supposed to be dipping in pudding, now?

Posted by: CrankyJAnne at June 05, 2023 05:07 PM (/N8T/)

127 Just for perspective, Disney profited $4.1 billion (net) from operations for the last 12 months ending March 2023.

The hardest you can hit them is by cord cutting.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 05, 2023 05:07 PM (WcwJt)

128 114 Why watch a new version of Dumbo? Or any other of the originals, for that matter? They were great, just watch them again.

this Eeyore is a very important point

we have the stories still, made well.

in olden times you watched a play at the Globe or something, you couldn't rewatch that - film (and tv) has changed performed narrative completely

all the remakes lately are just so much WORSE

there is no point to any of them!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 05, 2023 05:07 PM (w0NJk)

129
This parade of bombs got put into the pipeline years ago. One wonders if Disney is frantically looking at what's in the pipeline now. There are doubtless more projects bumping along at different stages of development, all woke disasters in the making.

One also wonders whether they're revising their criteria for new projects. I wonder what new content you could take to them RIGHT NOW?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2023 05:07 PM (lCaJd)

130 Splash Mountain is gone, I think. They're changing it into something else.

Tiana’s Bayou Adventure

https://tinyurl.com/uaamvxv5

Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 05:07 PM (eOEVl)

131 Has anyone pinpointed when Disney started their Doom Spiral, in terms of movies, not management?

Posted by: tubal at June 05, 2023 05:07 PM (PCK5/)

132 123 Maybe Disney can just have a garage sale,…

They kind of are. I’ve been noticing a lot of Disney movies in the cheap section of Apple’s movie store over the last few months. That’s something that used to be anathema at Disney. Even to the point of withholding DVDs and VHS tapes from the market to make them more desirable when they were available.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 05, 2023 05:06 PM (EXyHK)

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Iger has said more than once stuff about taking advantage of the home video market again.

Because Disney+, the great every other mode of delivery of media killer, didn't actually kill anything. You know...Disney+, which was his idea.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 05:07 PM (LvTSG)

133 The Jungle Book was horrible - just all CGI to the point where I didn't understand how it was live action at all?!?!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 05, 2023 05:05 PM (w0NJk)

Tintin was full motion capture and CGI, I was never sure if it made money or not.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2023 05:08 PM (xhaym)

134 Even to the point of withholding DVDs and VHS tapes from the market to make them more desirable when they were available.

that really and truly used to piss me off when my kids were tiny btw

fucking Disney how I hate thee

die die die

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 05, 2023 05:08 PM (w0NJk)

135 92 84 Yes, the Hulu deal is a requirement - and it's not $9B - right now, it's something like $28B and Disney is panicking, so they are trying to devalue Hulu as much as possible over the next 12 months and negotiate an out...

ok so you're saying I shouldn't cancel Hulu right now then? maybe get subs for the kids too?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 05, 2023 05:01 PM (w0NJk)

Well, wait til Disney has to buy out Comcast, then cancel everything

...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2023 05:08 PM (exHjb)

136 125 The senate is going to demand a $100B bailout of Disney. The House will offer $75B with an option to repeat every year for 5 years and call it the biggest Disney funding cut in history.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 05, 2023 05:07 PM (dDq4o)

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Whoa, whoa whoa. This is an outrageous slander against me and the good people who run the GOP. We will not bail out Disney a penny more than $50B!

Posted by: Montec at June 05, 2023 05:08 PM (OalnH)

137 You simply will not sell a movie with a black cast in much of Asia. Will not happen.

Posted by: JEM at June 05, 2023 05:08 PM (8erNz)

138 130 Splash Mountain is gone, I think. They're changing it into something else.

Tiana’s Bayou Adventure

https://tinyurl.com/uaamvxv5
Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 05:07 PM (eOEVl)

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Well, there you are. Gotta be the newer movies because no one remembers what Splash Mountain was trying to promote. I don't, but then again, I'm not one of the olds.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 05:08 PM (LvTSG)

139 The Shittle Mermaid

Posted by: ... at June 05, 2023 05:09 PM (ncdr/)

140 131 Has anyone pinpointed when Disney started their Doom Spiral, in terms of movies, not management?

I know when Pixar went to hell, when they fired that one guy for being too friendly

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 05, 2023 05:09 PM (w0NJk)

141 Splash Mountain is gone, I think. They're changing it into something else.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 05:04 PM (LvTSG)

____

Something gay and fabulous!!
Posted by: Montec at June 05, 2023 05:06 PM (OalnH)

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Ejaculate Fountain!

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 05, 2023 05:09 PM (QNdPI)

142 STOP, I ALREADY PLAN ON VOTING FOR HIM:
Comey Warns Trump Might Use the Constitution Against Him and His Corrupt Friends.

Posted by: SMOD at June 05, 2023 05:09 PM (RHGPo)

143 Bring back the sexy blue cat check and the unobtainable-ium-um-um because that script was tight. No plot holes there.

Posted by: Archer at June 05, 2023 05:09 PM (gmo/4)

144 The senate is going to demand a $100B bailout of Disney. The House will offer $75B with an option to repeat every year for 5 years and call it the biggest Disney funding cut in history.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 05, 2023 05:07 PM (dDq4o)

I really wish that did not seem so plausible.

Posted by: Catherine at June 05, 2023 05:09 PM (ZSsrh)

145 Splash Mountain is gone, I think. They're changing it into something else.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures

The Trans M2F Surgery Experience
Gash Mountin' : The Uncomfortable Ride Of A Lifetime.

Posted by: Joe Mama at June 05, 2023 05:09 PM (lZVy/)

146 chick. auto cucumber

Posted by: Archer at June 05, 2023 05:09 PM (gmo/4)

147 103 Nova, how sure are you of that?

If Disney needs to devalue Hulu, would it make sense for every conservative to subscribe to Hulu to jack up its value to force Disney to spend $28 or more billion?

(And then cancel post-sale?)
Posted by: ace at June 05, 2023 05:03 PM (KRtlO)

https://www.indiewire.com/news/analysis/ disney-buy-out-hulu-share-comcast-bob-iger-1234861252/

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2023 05:09 PM (exHjb)

148 Gotta be the newer movies because no one remembers what Splash Mountain was trying to promote.

Song of the South

Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 05:10 PM (eOEVl)

149 Have You Heard the Scuttlebutt?

If you haven't, here it is...with footage from the film!
https://youtu.be/N4ovRhX8XIM

Posted by: Prepare for ear cancer at June 05, 2023 05:10 PM (NCgXW)

150 I don't believe Indy 5 will be anywhere near that break-even point. 1), Bad word-of-mouth is already starting to circulate, 2), Disney's reputation for wokeism is now widespread enough that some people will stay away on general principles, and 3), Anyone else remember how excited you were in '08 when Crystal Skull debuted? And then how you felt after you saw it? Because lots of people do remember that.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 05, 2023 05:10 PM (jGGMD)

151 > Holy shit, that would be an amazing consumer action if you could find a way to orchestrate it.
___________

Corporate warfare has a new opponent on the field and they are pissed off.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 05, 2023 05:10 PM (Q4IgG)

152 exactly ace that's what I was saying

I'll get like ten Hulu subs if it hurts Disney

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 05, 2023 05:10 PM (w0NJk)

153 I know some of you are really down on Grace Randolph, but I don't think I can make an informed judgment about her talent or merit until I've seen her take the main stage in translucent highheels accompanied by a Motley Crue song.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 05, 2023 05:10 PM (ppBhU)

154 Tiana’s Bayou Adventure

Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 05:07 PM (eOEVl)

I was going to accuse you of making that up, because nobody is that stupid, but then I realized...this is Disney we're talking about.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 05, 2023 05:10 PM (ZCCyW)

155 So it turns out that you can't make a hit sequel when you passionately hate the characters, themes and fans of the originals. Whooda thunk it?

Posted by: 29Victor at June 05, 2023 05:10 PM (808kb)

156 One also wonders whether they're revising their criteria for new projects. I wonder what new content you could take to them RIGHT NOW?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2023 05:07 PM (lCaJd)

Snow White and Deadpool 3 & 4 are coming up in 2024. Excited yet?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2023 05:10 PM (xhaym)

157 If you haven't, here it is...with footage from the film!
https://youtu.be/N4ovRhX8XIM
Posted by: Prepare for ear cancer at June 05, 2023 05:10 PM (NCgXW)
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I had that ear cancer in my brain while I was working in my yard yesterday...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 05, 2023 05:11 PM (YIVH2)

158
If a flashmob of shoplifters hit a Target store and robs it of Disney merchandise, who loses?

Posted by: Auspex at June 05, 2023 05:11 PM (j4U/Z)

159 156 Snow White and Deadpool 3 & 4 are coming up in 2024. Excited yet?
Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2023 05:10 PM (xhaym)

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Snow White cast a hispanic girl. Because yup.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 05, 2023 05:11 PM (LvTSG)

160 Splash Mountain will transition to Mons of Uranus.

Posted by: Archer at June 05, 2023 05:11 PM (gmo/4)

161 When will they cast a black Hitler?

Posted by: Eeyore at June 05, 2023 05:11 PM (TgBWG)

162 "Disney previously guaranteed to Comcast a minimum total equity value of $27.5 billion for Hulu, which makes Comcast’s one-third share worth at least $9.17 billion. And with a price tag that high, it makes sense that Iger took some time to think this over."

From the posted link at 147...

My bad on guarantee - this was the minimum...I was thinking the total value of the guarantee.

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2023 05:12 PM (exHjb)

163 The Little Mermaid got crabs.

Posted by: fd at June 05, 2023 05:12 PM (iayUP)

164 Snow White and Deadpool 3 & 4 are coming up in 2024. Excited yet?

WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO SNOW WHITE

btw I just saw they're doing a computer-animated (aka "live action") Hercules and I AM DISAPPOINT

do not want! ugh it's going to be horrible

watch them race-swap Herc you know they will

they could make that good just use the previous film's voice actors as the actors in it!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 05, 2023 05:12 PM (w0NJk)

165 @105: "The Little Mermaid has so much CGI and motion capture ..."

When you see the making of videos, it's even more awkward and embarrassing then you might assume.

The "swimming" scenes have actors suspended in mid-air harnesses which have hula hoop like rings that automatically spin them for the twisty fast swimming effects.

Except there's no water buoyancy to negate the obvious real life gravity that can be seen in the finished visuals. Uncanny valley stuff that might have been fixed with more production time and money, or maybe waiting a few years for better CGI tech.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 05, 2023 05:12 PM (k1Qly)

166 love that idea.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 05:06 PM (DU+/6)

Might only work once, but what a once.

Be a great way for another company down the road to get subscribers. Just release news like this and watch the business flow in.

Posted by: ... at June 05, 2023 05:12 PM (/6AND)

167 1, I think so, 2, I dunno, 3, I dunno.

I'm very well-informed. I'm part of The Media!
Posted by: ace

Thank you. You have clarified the situation brilliantly

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 05, 2023 05:13 PM (Wy1BU)

168 I don't believe Indy 5 will be anywhere near that break-even point. 1), Bad word-of-mouth is already starting to circulate, 2), Disney's reputation for wokeism is now widespread enough that some people will stay away on general principles, and 3), Anyone else remember how excited you were in '08 when Crystal Skull debuted? And then how you felt after you saw it? Because lots of people do remember that.
Posted by: Dr. T at June 05, 2023 05:10 PM (jGGMD)
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I watched Temple of Doom this past weekend. It's the weakest of the original trilogy, but still way better than Crystal Skull.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 05, 2023 05:13 PM (YIVH2)

169 Snow Black

Posted by: ... at June 05, 2023 05:13 PM (/6AND)

170 The senate is going to demand a $100B bailout of Disney. The House will offer $75B with an option to repeat every year for 5 years and call it the biggest Disney funding cut in history.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 05, 2023 05:07 PM (dDq4o)

Get out of my head! And stop going through my desk!!

Posted by: Kevin McCarthy at June 05, 2023 05:13 PM (jGGMD)

171 Snow White cast a hispanic girl. Because yup.

Snow White Hispanic.

It tracks.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 05, 2023 05:13 PM (ppBhU)

172 Bring back the sexy blue cat check and the unobtainable-ium-um-um because that script was tight. No plot holes there.

Posted by: Archer at June 05, 2023 05:09 PM (gmo/4)

Avatar 3 &4 are in pre-production now. As is Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes.

Excited yet? I am so excited my nipples could cut glass!

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2023 05:13 PM (xhaym)

173 I watched Temple of Doom this past weekend. It's the weakest of the original trilogy, but still way better than Crystal Skull.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 05, 2023 05:13 PM (YIVH2)

Reefer Madness was a better film than Crystal Skull.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2023 05:14 PM (xhaym)

174 How can a movie like the Little Mermaid cost 600 million to make? Did they buy the Bahamas to film it?

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2023 05:14 PM (MNhXM)

175 do not want! ugh it's going to be horrible

watch them race-swap Herc you know they will

Perhaps they can do a two-fer and get the woman who played Cleopatra.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 05:14 PM (eOEVl)

176 Hahaa. Disney is too big to fail!

Posted by: 13times at June 05, 2023 05:15 PM (7Tb4o)

177 Excited yet? I am so excited my nipples could cut glass!

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2023 05:13 PM (xhaym)

You know the rule.

Posted by: ... at June 05, 2023 05:15 PM (/6AND)

178 Snow White cast a hispanic girl. Because yup.

Could be worse. They could have cast an Asian girl. Yellow Snow.

Posted by: Archer at June 05, 2023 05:15 PM (gmo/4)

179 Avatar 3 &4 are in pre-production now. As is Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes.

Excited yet? I am so excited my nipples could cut glass!
Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2023 05:13 PM (xhaym)

Oh God, there's going to be *another* Planet of the Apes movie???

Posted by: Dr. T at June 05, 2023 05:15 PM (jGGMD)

180 Well, there you are. Gotta be the newer movies because no one remembers what Splash Mountain was trying to promote

It had a Song Of The South theme.

Day-uhm, dog knocked me down yesterday morning getting ready for walk and I twisted my left ankle so badly I couldn't walk yesterday and am only just getting it back now.

Posted by: JEM at June 05, 2023 05:15 PM (8erNz)

181 geez, I wonder if dumbo could be an allegory for trannys? I mean, if you write bad enough, anything is

Posted by: sockamster, gator at June 05, 2023 05:15 PM (MLrvz)

182 We be pruod to announce the new Brattleboro FART Tube Credit card. This be Credit Card will maesure your ESG Score based on yoor purchasis and when we feel you be exceeeeding your ESG scoor you be notified thats's you exceeded your monthly totals and you be card suspended tell next month. Whats has you doon to flight Gobill Warming ????

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at June 05, 2023 05:15 PM (B/7uq)

183 What is really amusing is the amount of Fluff 'news' pieces out there that say the movie is wonderful, and making LOTS OF MONEY.

When, just below it, is an article saying it's losing money.

It's almost like the news is trying to do the 'perception is reality' thing.... kinda like globul Warmering and the Covid Plague.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2023 05:15 PM (oHd/0)

184 nice to see Tiana get some love, she's usually missing in a Princess shot. Like she was an embarassment or something. I liked Princess and the Frog. Moana kind of bored me.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2023 05:15 PM (0hOvj)

185 Song of the South
Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 05:10 PM (eOEVl)

With Uncle Penis.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 05, 2023 05:16 PM (ZSK0i)

186 7 >>>She twitched a little when admitting it might not hit $500m.

it was glorious.
Posted by: ace

How very schaudenbonerish of you, ace.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 05, 2023 05:16 PM (lpsR4)

187 I'm watching the 1937 Captains Courageous right now. One of the few movies that does the book justice.

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2023 05:16 PM (MNhXM)

188 >>>Oh God, there's going to be *another* Planet of the Apes movie???

hey man the Apes movies are pretty much the only competently run reboot franchise...

Posted by: ace at June 05, 2023 05:16 PM (KRtlO)

189 I'm still waiting for Mickey to come out as trans. And claim he's a female duck.

*insert "fuck-a-duck" jokes here*

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 05, 2023 05:17 PM (Q4IgG)

190 hey man the Apes movies are pretty much the only competently run reboot franchise...

Coming soon....The Thin WoMan, starring Dylan Mulvaney.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 05:17 PM (eOEVl)

191 It seems to me that the more recent animated movies tend to have a very unique and distinctive animation style that enhances the look and feel of the movie.

With "live action" remakes, how do they capture that same distinction?

Or do all of these "live action" movies exist in the same Disney Cinematic Universe?

That could be interesting...But Disney would never create original stories around that concept...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 05, 2023 05:17 PM (YIVH2)

192 It had a Song Of The South theme.

...I have no recollection of that whatsoever. It just seemed like a place to go cool down on a 100 degree LA day.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2023 05:17 PM (0hOvj)

193 WHERE'S YOUR DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION GOD NOW, MR. IGER?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Deseret Rebel at June 05, 2023 05:18 PM (PJaTp)

194 With Uncle Penis.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 05, 2023 05:16 PM (ZSK0i)

He transitioned. He is Aunt Penis, now.

Posted by: Archer at June 05, 2023 05:18 PM (gmo/4)

195
Snow White and Deadpool 3 & 4 are coming up in 2024. Excited yet?

WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO SNOW WHITE

Posted by: BlackOrchid

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Really, you don't know? Really? I saw side-by-side pics on social media of the actresses playing Snow White and the evil queen. Snow was browner than the queen. And the actress has already denounced the racists who have objected to the absurdity of casting a brown actress to play a girl who's so white she makes actual white women look like they were left in the oven too long.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2023 05:18 PM (lCaJd)

196 Dr. T: "Anyone else remember how excited you were in '08 when Crystal Skull debuted? And then how you felt after you saw it? Because lots of people do remember that."

Yeah, the trendline indicates the new plot will center around transgender aliens and a golden phallus.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at June 05, 2023 05:18 PM (aXxgO)

197 @150: "Because lots of people do remember that."

People also remember how old and "unenthusiastic" Ford was while playing Han Solo in the The Force Awakens and that was eight years ago. Crystal Skull was fifteen years ago! He wasn't looking too youthful in that one either.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 05, 2023 05:18 PM (k1Qly)

198 "Film critic Pete Hammond recounted Iger's reaction when informed Deadline just published a rave review of the fifth Indiana Jones movie: "You could see the absolute relief on his face. 'You have made me very happy to hear that,' he told me, and he meant it.".

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LOL, it is still going to bomb.

Posted by: Jay in PA at June 05, 2023 05:18 PM (i7Q7S)

199 I'm still waiting for Mickey to come out as trans. And claim he's a female duck.

Well we know Donald is a female tranny unless he tucks. That what she gets for not wearing pants.

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2023 05:18 PM (MNhXM)

200 but Drudge said it was a hit

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2023 05:19 PM (us2H3)

201 hey man the Apes movies are pretty much the only competently run reboot franchise...

I mean, they are dumb as living hell but they are apparently entertaining.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2023 05:19 PM (0hOvj)

202 hey man the Apes movies are pretty much the only competently run reboot franchise...
Posted by: ace at June 05, 2023 05:16 PM (KRtlO)

Fair. But the more sequels they make, the greater the odds of it becoming another dumpster fire or, worse yet, the Tim Burton reboot attempt.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 05, 2023 05:19 PM (jGGMD)

203 Little sent me this Little Mermaid TikTok funny the other day.

https://tinyurl.com/ykbs39pt

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 05, 2023 05:19 PM (WcwJt)

204 Have You Heard the Scuttlebutt? Disney Has Another Woke Bomb On Its Hands as Little Mermaid is Projected to Lose Between $50 and $100 Million

Holy Pluto! Tell DisneyLand and DisneyWorld to double the prices of EVERYTHING, NOW! Then double them again in a month!

Posted by: Bob Iger at June 05, 2023 05:19 PM (AMIL/)

205 @153: "... informed judgment about her talent or merit ..."

Disagree. Her everyday crazy eyes inform you plenty enough if you're into that sorta thing.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 05, 2023 05:19 PM (k1Qly)

206 Dr. T: "Anyone else remember how excited you were in '08 when Crystal Skull debuted? And then how you felt after you saw it? Because lots of people do remember that."

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no because indy was already fucking old

Posted by: sockamster, gator at June 05, 2023 05:20 PM (MLrvz)

207 It Stinks!

Posted by: The Critic at June 05, 2023 05:20 PM (lZVy/)

208 I was at the movies a few weeks ago and all of the trailers with the exception of the next installment of Mission Impossible was all animated garbage including Little Mermaid. No one laughed or showed any excitement about any of this dreck.

I was with friends who wanted to see The Book Club with Fonda, Bergen, Steenburgen, and Keaton. I went for the dinner out afterward which redeemed a dumb movie.

Posted by: Cheri at June 05, 2023 05:20 PM (oiNtH)

209 Harrison Ford has a resting bitch face. He never laughs. Just a sarcastic snicker. In every single role.

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2023 05:20 PM (MNhXM)

210 Anyone else remember how excited you were in '08 when Crystal Skull debuted?

I had mixed feelings. Harrison Ford was pretty old, but the preview was well done. So I went to see it, hopeful. And ten minutes into the movie I knew it was a mistake.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2023 05:20 PM (0hOvj)

211 "Disney is the majority owner of Hulu, holding a two-thirds stake, while Comcast owns a third. Starting in January 2024, Comcast can use a put option to require Disney to take over its stake, while Disney can tell Comcast to sell it its stake. A transaction would be a multibillion-dollar affair. As per an agreement between the two companies, Hulu would get a fair-market value assessment from independent experts. However, the guaranteed minimum Hulu valuation of $27.5 billion means that Disney would have to cough up at least around $9 billion."

Hollywood Reporter on the exact current terms.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business /business-news/hulu-disney-comcast-deal-future-1235322106/

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2023 05:20 PM (exHjb)

212 We need a group of folks to start putting dead horse heads in the beds of these studio execs.

Posted by: Archer at June 05, 2023 05:21 PM (gmo/4)

213 What is really amusing is the amount of Fluff 'news' pieces out there that say the movie is wonderful, and making LOTS OF MONEY.

When, just below it, is an article saying it's losing money.

It's almost like the news is trying to do the 'perception is reality' thing.... kinda like globul Warmering and the Covid Plague.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2023 05:15 PM (oHd/0)

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"Not to worry, comrade:-- our coming AI Ministry of Truth ChatBot FedGPT wikl make sure that all narrative contradictions are suppressed to relieve your mind of this oppression!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 05, 2023 05:21 PM (QNdPI)

214 Expect to read hundreds of mosques getting funding now.

@Breaking911 6m
BREAKING: State school board in Oklahoma approves what would be the first publicly funded religious school in the nation - AP

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 05, 2023 05:21 PM (jzzG8)

215 >>What has gone wrong for the studio behind 'Star Wars' and 'Indiana Jones'

What has happened is that a bunch of unaccomplished women and f****ts have been put in charge of really expensive and lucrative IP and have decided to destroy it because of their unresolved daddy issues.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 05, 2023 05:21 PM (up/3i)

216 Disney should make a movie on their impending bankruptcy.

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 05, 2023 05:21 PM (Xf+wO)

217 You know, Disney should try to horn in on the Batman franchise. 'Cause there's never enough Batman. It's the story that's never told right.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at June 05, 2023 05:21 PM (aXxgO)

218 dims now repeating Kevin's praise of Biden

keep your fucking piehole shut, Mrs Luntz

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2023 05:22 PM (us2H3)

219 I was with friends who wanted to see The Book Club with Fonda, Bergen, Steenburgen, and Keaton.

Mary Steenburgen still looks good, and Bergen is okay.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 05:22 PM (eOEVl)

220 no because indy was already fucking old

The Mummy could have been spun into a good replacement serial. But they choked, somehow inexplicably decicing that every new installment had to be about mummies (like that was the draw!) and then Fraser decided he'd rather be fat and mentally unwell fulltime anyway.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 05, 2023 05:22 PM (ppBhU)

221 They kind of are. I’ve been noticing a lot of Disney movies in the cheap section of Apple’s movie store over the last few months. That’s something that used to be anathema at Disney. Even to the point of withholding DVDs and VHS tapes from the market to make them more desirable when they were available.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 05, 2023 05:06 PM (EXyHK)

For awhile after Disney channel launched, you could not buy their Movies on Amazon...

Now, they are in the bargain basement.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2023 05:22 PM (oHd/0)

222 Has anyone pinpointed when Disney started their Doom Spiral, in terms of movies, not management?
Posted by: tubal at June 05, 2023 05:07 PM

Around 2016.

Disney had the rights to Lloyd Alexander's The Book of Three and The Black Cauldron, which it previously mashed into a single, horrible movie. In 2016, various entertainment news outlets reported it planned to try again, with a more faithful adaptation (2016).

Instead, it churned out live-action Beauty and the Beast, Moana (not that great), Cars 3, and Thor: Ragnorak.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at June 05, 2023 05:23 PM (fxCK2)

223 @209

>>Harrison Ford has a resting bitch face. He never laughs. Just a sarcastic snicker. In every single role.

At the end of the day he's just a journeyman carpenter who lucked out beyond even his wildest dreams and it's tugged at him his entire career.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 05, 2023 05:23 PM (up/3i)

224 I was with friends who wanted to see The Book Club with Fonda, Bergen, Steenburgen, and Keaton.

Hanoi Jane cannot die and burn in hell for all eternity fast enough for me.

Posted by: Archer at June 05, 2023 05:24 PM (gmo/4)

225 212 We need a group of folks to start putting dead horse heads in the beds of these studio execs.
Posted by: Archer at June 05, 2023 05:21 PM (gmo/4)

if you put a horse head in the bed with a studio exec, you would have a complete horse

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2023 05:24 PM (us2H3)

226 The Mummy could have been spun into a good replacement serial. But they choked, somehow inexplicably decicing that every new installment had to be about mummies (like that was the draw!) and then Fraser decided he'd rather be fat and mentally unwell fulltime anyway.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 05, 2023 05:22 PM (ppBhU)

Every time I watch The Mummy, I'm reminded how well it holds up, and how much The Mummy Returns was an unimaginative cash-grab in comparison.

Posted by: Dr. T at June 05, 2023 05:24 PM (jGGMD)

227 Hubbymayhem has a theory....

Indiana Jones is what Han Solo was dreaming while frozen in carbonite.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 05, 2023 05:24 PM (Wy1BU)

228 Disney should make a movie on their impending bankruptcy.
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 05, 2023 05:21 PM (Xf+wO)

Apparently they are, it is called "Crater"

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2023 05:24 PM (xhaym)

229 https://www.thewrap.com/comcast- disney-billions-apart-hulu-valuation/

And now I know where I had my valuation - Comcast has its stake value about 3x higher than the minimum - aka "Disney and Comcast billions apart on what Hulu is worth" - so the more you drive up Hulu's worth, the more Disney might pay without a deal (both sides are already in early negotiations for this)...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2023 05:25 PM (exHjb)

230 Disney bankruptcy movie titles : Deep Impact

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 05, 2023 05:25 PM (cLjtX)

231 Are the new Disney movies in the Walmart bargain bin? That's the tell.

Posted by: Archer at June 05, 2023 05:26 PM (gmo/4)

232 A Bankruptcy Runs Through It.

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 05, 2023 05:26 PM (cLjtX)

233 Crystal Skull was the first movie I ever saw where I felt like I was watching someone playing a video game.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at June 05, 2023 05:26 PM (AD14M)

234 Disney bankruptcy movie titles: The Iger Sanction

Posted by: Archimedes at June 05, 2023 05:27 PM (eOEVl)

235 228 Disney should make a movie on their impending bankruptcy.
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 05, 2023 05:21 PM (Xf+wO)

Apparently they are, it is called "Crater"
Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2023 05:24 PM (xhaym)

I gotz it! Itz GOLD I tells ya!

How to recede in Business, without really trying!

Posted by: Disney pitch meeting at June 05, 2023 05:27 PM (oHd/0)

236 Somewhere around John Carter of Mars.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 05, 2023 05:27 PM (pWgpB)

237 I wish Red Letter Media would do another Nerd Crew video, now shocked that people aren't consuming product with the same enthusiasm any more.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 05, 2023 05:27 PM (ssESX)

238 Cars 3? That reminds me, I just got the DVD version of The Car w/James Brolin and Kathleen Lloyd.

Time for some gratuitous violence.

And then follow it up with the Futurama episode, "The Honking".

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 05, 2023 05:28 PM (ZSK0i)

239 someone wake Tucker up !!

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2023 05:28 PM (us2H3)

240 This bikini-bound brunette at the beach is getting ready to look for mermaids, before catching some sun (and many side-glances, I'm sure).
https://tinyurl.com/28423322

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 05, 2023 05:28 PM (NCgXW)

241 Posted by: Admiral Ackbar

you're a bad person

Posted by: ace at June 05, 2023 05:28 PM (KRtlO)

242 You know what's not woke?
Sitting on the deck drinking bier in the sun, and watching granddaughter practice soccer drills!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 05, 2023 05:29 PM (e4fEA)

243 Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 05, 2023 05:28 PM (NCgXW)

You're going to hell for that.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 05, 2023 05:29 PM (ZSK0i)

244 Gone with the Wind

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2023 05:29 PM (us2H3)

245 I hear they're gonna remake, "Dumb and Dumber," with Mike Pence as Dumbest.

Posted by: Marooned at June 05, 2023 05:29 PM (kt8QE)

246 @216: "Disney should make a movie on their impending bankruptcy."

There's a huge lag time on some pop culture as business stuff. Early Marvel success was driven in large part by older comic book nerd parents wanting to share that stuff with their kids. There's going to be a dent in Disney's bigger theme park business eventually, and it's not going to bite hard for another ten or twenty years.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 05, 2023 05:29 PM (k1Qly)

247 I mean, you're talking about a company that is starting up movies that cost upwards of half a billion dollars to produce and advertise with literally no script or concrete story arc already solidified into place before they begin.

It's lunacy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 05, 2023 05:29 PM (up/3i)

248 LOL

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 05, 2023 05:30 PM (TLhHb)

249 @240
Your name is apropos, isn't it?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 05, 2023 05:30 PM (ssESX)

250 Insolvent Green.

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 05, 2023 05:31 PM (cLjtX)

251 you're a bad person
Posted by: ace at June 05, 2023 05:28 PM (KRtlO)

I'm not going to look, but I'm guessing the Admiral either stuck in an unattractive woman or some kind of brown colored (brunette) animal.

Good job, Admiral, but change your handle next time.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2023 05:31 PM (Keyt1)

252 Wow, I'm a walking advertisement for ink. Amirite?

Posted by: Lena Dunham at June 05, 2023 05:32 PM (AD14M)

253 @233: "... like I was watching someone playing a video game."

The jeep chase on the edge of the cliff with Mutt coming in last second by swinging through the jungle with the monkeys.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 05, 2023 05:32 PM (k1Qly)

254 247 I mean, you're talking about a company that is starting up movies that cost upwards of half a billion dollars to produce and advertise with literally no script or concrete story arc already solidified into place before they begin.

It's lunacy.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 05, 2023 05:29 PM (up/3i)

When you live by the tentpole, you die by the tentpole.

Disney decided to mostly get out of the low and midbudget movie business b/c they didn't see corporate value to it (nevermind that theaters actually need product for them to be around for Disney movies)...so, they put themselves in this huge risk/reward scenario. We can just take advantage of it...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2023 05:32 PM (exHjb)

255 Are the new Disney movies in the Walmart bargain bin? That's the tell.

I do occasionally check out the Walmart bargain DVD barrels, but I don’t know if I would recognize a new Disney movie. Or remember seeing it if I did. Even if it were done well, I am not the target audience for The Little Mermaid.

Although I do own a copy of Finding Nemo and The Incredibles.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 05, 2023 05:33 PM (EXyHK)

256 Hanoi Jane cannot die and burn in hell for all eternity fast enough for me.

Posted by: Archer

And she still spews looney shit and basically wishes death on all Republicans so the much vaunted apology tour she went on years ago about her little vacay in Vietnam was all a lie which many of us knew it that it would be.

Posted by: Cheri at June 05, 2023 05:33 PM (oiNtH)

257 I'm not going to look, but I'm guessing the Admiral either stuck in an unattractive woman or some kind of brown colored (brunette) animal.

Correct on both counts.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 05, 2023 05:33 PM (ZSK0i)

258 The jeep chase on the edge of the cliff

= =

Yep, that's the one.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at June 05, 2023 05:33 PM (AD14M)

259 Indiana Jones and the Balance Sheet of DOOM!

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at June 05, 2023 05:33 PM (VGRuw)

260 If you fell for the admiral's trap, this busty blonde in black will help ease your pain:
https://is.gd/TxnVg8

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 05:34 PM (DU+/6)

261 I mean, you're talking about a company that is starting up movies that cost upwards of half a billion dollars to produce and advertise with literally no script or concrete story arc already solidified into place before they begin.

The Disney Marvel way of making movies is to come up with a character, then try to fit them into their mega story arc which no one cares about any more. When they film, they cast a director based on check marks and give them the title, but then the producers each change the script and inform the director what they will do. The action sequences are shot separate from the director, who has no input on those parts. Like 25 people are involved in writing and rewriting and script doctoring. Everyone wants a piece of the movie because a smash hit Marvel film looks amazing on your IMDB page and resumee.

The results are crap like Eternals and Dr Strange 2.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2023 05:34 PM (0hOvj)

262 240 This bikini-bound brunette at the beach is getting ready to look for mermaids, before catching some sun (and many side-glances, I'm sure).
https://tinyurl.com/28423322
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 05, 2023 05:28 PM (NCgXW)
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Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design.

Posted by: Emperor Palpatine at June 05, 2023 05:34 PM (ssESX)

263 Good job, Admiral, but change your handle next time.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2023 05:31 PM

It's not fair without the handle...I have to give you Morons a fighting chance. When the little-head is in charge and shortcuts the caution of the big-head, well...it's a valuable lesson.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 05, 2023 05:35 PM (NCgXW)

264 Man that girl has glorious eyes.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 05, 2023 05:35 PM (Wy1BU)

265 @237: "... now shocked that people aren't consuming product with the same enthusiasm any more."

Rich breaks character half-way through and says he can't do it anymore. Nice earnest piano music monologue. Mike looks sympathetic, takes off his glasses, and begins to open his mouth, but then Jay goes full alpha and shoots Rich dead.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 05, 2023 05:35 PM (k1Qly)

266 This Hulu deal sounds like one of the worst deals made in American corporate history in a generation.

"You own 1/3, I own 2/3, and at a date in the future I can force you to accept a buyout or you can force me to perform a buyout - *and* I will guarantee a minimum enterprise value of the joint venture" is so insane I can barely believe it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 05:35 PM (DU+/6)

267 Hank Fonda made some purty good flicks

but the man could not keep his cock outta of crazy

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2023 05:36 PM (us2H3)

268 How dismal must Kathleen Kennedy's childhood have been for her to dedicate her life to destroying every happy memory that anyone else ever had of their own childhood?

Posted by: Thatch at June 05, 2023 05:36 PM (NcQZY)

269 like I was watching someone playing a video game.

That's how I felt watching the mine cart scene in Indiana Jones 2. Spielberg has a problem with this, directing video game/amusement park ride sequences. Peter Jackson did some of that too, although the worst parts went on the cutting room floor.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2023 05:36 PM (0hOvj)

270
Disney's stockholders are Under the Sea at this point. Swimming with the fishes.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 05, 2023 05:36 PM (+oR7L)

271 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 05:34 PM (DU+/6)

Even she has an expression on her face (Yes; I know "She has a face"??) that says, "Good grief. This outfit is embarrassing." How she suffers for her work.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2023 05:36 PM (Keyt1)

272 You might want to keep an eye out on a show on Netflix called FUBAR, starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. It was hyped up to be this big action comedy show but of course filled with modern comedy bullshit and girl power (Arnold retires from CIA but has to save his daughter who is also a CIA agent and there's stoner shitty comedians playing their support).

But from what Netflix has provided on their Top 10 page it got beat in ratings not only by some gay show called Bridgerton, but The Night Agent (where the FBI is always the hero) had almost 2.5 the first week ratings with a bunch of no names.

People are just fucking tired with this constant shitting of the past to make the new seems less gay. We all have gaydar, we know it's super gay. This is why rude anime titties will save the future.

Posted by: UwU_Power at June 05, 2023 05:37 PM (3kWw+)

273 240 This bikini-bound brunette at the beach is getting ready to look for mermaids, before catching some sun (and many side-glances, I'm sure).
https://tinyurl.com/28423322
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 05, 2023 05:28 PM

260 If you fell for the admiral's trap, this busty blonde in black will help ease your pain:
https://is.gd/TxnVg8
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 05:34 PM

I don't see the difference.

Posted by: Lying Lefty Soyboy in a polycule at June 05, 2023 05:37 PM (NCgXW)

274 This bikini-bound brunette at the beach is getting ready to look for mermaids, before catching some sun (and many side-glances, I'm sure).

I would complain but you did warn us its a trap

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2023 05:37 PM (0hOvj)

275 I don't see the difference.
Posted by: Lying Lefty Soyboy in a polycule at June 05, 2023 05:37 PM (NCgXW)
++++
:: slow clap ::

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 05:38 PM (DU+/6)

276
The complete laziness of just remaking everything is why they all suck. Movies, TV shows. Ridiculous.

And I'm sure Disney was thinking of the Broadway making of "Little Mermaid" like they did with Lion King, Beauty & the Beast, etc.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 05, 2023 05:38 PM (+oR7L)

277 So Disney is valuing their shuttered 'Galactic Starcruiser' warehouse at WDW at $350m

Shows how far they devalued the Star Wars brand when they can't sell a hotel stay for...uh, twice the price of a decent Mediterranean cruise.

Posted by: JEM at June 05, 2023 05:39 PM (8erNz)

278 If you fell for the admiral's trap, this busty blonde in black will help ease your pain:
https://is.gd/TxnVg8
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

I prefer redheads.
https://is.gd/tblklR

Posted by: Eagle Lips at June 05, 2023 05:39 PM (++mCi)

279 How dismal must Kathleen Kennedy's childhood have been for her to dedicate her life to destroying every happy memory that anyone else ever had of their own childhood?

*****************

And make millions while doing so, and still claims to be a victim of the patriarchy

and people wonder why I hate AWFLs

Posted by: The Unfaucinated and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 05, 2023 05:40 PM (VTu1l)

280 [The Hulu deal] is so insane I can barely believe it.

Hulu was originally supposed to be a Netflix-killer. That was practically what it was marketed as. I’m guessing that to get Comcast on board they had to put a lot on the table.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 05, 2023 05:40 PM (EXyHK)

281 260 If you fell for the admiral's trap, this busty blonde in black will help ease your pain:
https://is.gd/TxnVg8
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 05:34 PM (DU+/6)
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Resting Bored Influencer Face

Posted by: Emperor Palpatine at June 05, 2023 05:40 PM (ssESX)

282 "Snow White cast a hispanic girl. Because yup."

Should ha' cast a Chinese girl. They're all about "Skin like snow, hair like night, lips blood-red" thing.

Or maybe the creator have never seen snow before? at least not before it was dirtied by LA's air pollution.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 05, 2023 05:40 PM (ou9hh)

283 /sock off

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 05, 2023 05:40 PM (ssESX)

284 I prefer redheads. https://is.gd/tblklR

******************

God damn you for getting my hopes up

Posted by: The Unfaucinated and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 05, 2023 05:40 PM (VTu1l)

285 275 I don't see the difference.
Posted by: Lying Lefty Soyboy in a polycule at June 05, 2023 05:37 PM (NCgXW)
++++
:: slow clap ::
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 05:38 PM

Damn...I should have added something like "claiming to be a feminist ally, hoping to get laid" to the handle. So many boxes to check to be inclusive...

Posted by: Lying Lefty Soyboy in a polycule at June 05, 2023 05:40 PM (NCgXW)

286 I have been reliably told that fans who loved black/Puerto Rican Miles Morales in Across the Spiderverse are reacist for not liking black Halle Bailey in The Little Mermaid.

This somehow makes sense to leftists.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2023 05:41 PM (0hOvj)

287 So Disney is valuing their shuttered 'Galactic Starcruiser' warehouse at WDW at $350m

Shows how far they devalued the Star Wars brand when they can't sell a hotel stay for...uh, twice the price of a decent Mediterranean cruise.
Posted by: JEM at June 05, 2023 05:39 PM (8erNz)
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It was such a stupid idea. "Entertainment experiences" at that price *do* have a market (just ask those who put on "Rock & Roll Fantasy Camp"), but that market is tiny. It is comprised almost entirely of affluent or wealthy middle-aged obsessives (a fairly small group) who happened to be obsessed with your particular thing (a very small group).

You don't put a half-billion or billion dollars into going after that particular market. It's insane.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 05:41 PM (DU+/6)

288 266 This Hulu deal sounds like one of the worst deals made in American corporate history in a generation.

"You own 1/3, I own 2/3, and at a date in the future I can force you to accept a buyout or you can force me to perform a buyout - *and* I will guarantee a minimum enterprise value of the joint venture" is so insane I can barely believe it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 05:35 PM (DU+/6)

People thought streaming was the next can't lose...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2023 05:42 PM (exHjb)

289 Resting Bored Influencer Face
Posted by: Emperor Palpatine at June 05, 2023 05:40 PM (ssESX

LOL. I like the term

Why is that these bombshell models practically never smile?
Is it because looking bored is supposed to be sexy?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2023 05:42 PM (Keyt1)

290 Damn...I should have added something like "claiming to be a feminist ally, hoping to get laid" to the handle. So many boxes to check to be inclusive...
Posted by: Lying Lefty Soyboy in a polycule at June 05, 2023 05:40 PM (NCgXW)
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Nah, that's all implied.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 05:42 PM (DU+/6)

291 Shows how far they devalued the Star Wars brand when they can't sell a hotel stay for...uh, twice the price of a decent Mediterranean cruise.

Hey they laid several billion into building that turd, they had to try to make it back somehow.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2023 05:42 PM (0hOvj)

292 God damn you for getting my hopes up
Posted by: The Unfaucinated and Unmasked Ranger
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Only click on Joe Mannix links or James Madison's Daily Daddario. If they turn to the darkside, then there should be no clicks at all.

Posted by: whig at June 05, 2023 05:42 PM (wUSgb)

293 This is why rude anime titties will save the future.
____

Castlevania was entertaining, if you watch cartoons.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 05, 2023 05:43 PM (fs1hN)

294 286 I have been reliably told that fans who loved black/Puerto Rican Miles Morales in Across the Spiderverse are reacist for not liking black Halle Bailey in The Little Mermaid.

This somehow makes sense to leftists.

dude. puerto ricans are american, which just makes them the off-white face of white supremacy.

Posted by: anachronda at June 05, 2023 05:43 PM (sGtp+)

295 I wonder how much money Rick Astley has made courtesy of the "Rick Roll" phenomenon. I hope it's a lot.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 05:43 PM (DU+/6)

296 288 266 This Hulu deal sounds like one of the worst deals made in American corporate history in a generation.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 05, 2023 05:35 PM (DU+/6)

People thought streaming was the next can't lose...
Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2023 05:42 PM

3 months ago, we were assured catering to the LGBTQIA2S+ market was no-lose...

Posted by: Bud Light at June 05, 2023 05:43 PM (NCgXW)

297 294 286 I have been reliably told that fans who loved black/Puerto Rican Miles Morales in Across the Spiderverse are reacist for not liking black Halle Bailey in The Little Mermaid.

This somehow makes sense to leftists.

dude. puerto ricans are american, which just makes them the off-white face of white supremacy.
Posted by: anachronda at June 05, 2023 05:43 PM (sGtp+)

You laugh, but I've had blacks tell me Miles isn't black...so, Mermaid is black, but Miles isn't...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2023 05:44 PM (exHjb)

298 I wonder how much money Rick Astley has made courtesy of the "Rick Roll" phenomenon. I hope it's a lot.

I do too, he seems like a good guy, and he is quite talented.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2023 05:44 PM (0hOvj)

299 282 "Snow White cast a hispanic girl. Because yup."

Should ha' cast a Chinese girl

tanned, rested, and ready

Posted by: awkwafina at June 05, 2023 05:45 PM (sGtp+)

300 292 God damn you for getting my hopes up
Posted by: The Unfaucinated and Unmasked Ranger
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Only click on Joe Mannix links or James Madison's Daily Daddario. If they turn to the darkside, then there should be no clicks at all.
Posted by: whig

A well played and timed rickroll will never get old.

Posted by: Eagle Lips at June 05, 2023 05:45 PM (++mCi)

301 I've had blacks tell me Miles isn't black...so, Mermaid is black, but Miles isn't...

One of the funniest things I have seen was a group of guys from Sierra Leon, black as the inside of a coal mine... talking to American black people, pointing out that they are all mixed race and should just shut the hell up.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2023 05:46 PM (0hOvj)

302 It was such a stupid idea. "Entertainment experiences" at that price *do* have a market (just ask those who put on "Rock & Roll Fantasy Camp"), but that market is tiny. It is comprised almost entirely of affluent or wealthy middle-aged obsessives (a fairly small group) who happened to be obsessed with your particular thing (a very small group).

I think you made the point. They're trying to sell it to the parents when the kids don't really care.

Posted by: JEM at June 05, 2023 05:46 PM (8erNz)

303 Snow White may or may not have actual dwarves (they'll have 7 of something with the names of the original 7, but we'll see if they are dwarves, since that is in doubt). They certainly won't be who they were before...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2023 05:46 PM (exHjb)

304 tanned, rested, and ready
Posted by: awkwafina at June 05, 2023 05:45 PM (sGtp+)

The truth is I liked her in the Jumanji movie acting like Danny Devito.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at June 05, 2023 05:46 PM (AiZBA)

305 They need to make a movie about Oak Island.

Posted by: Puddinhead at June 05, 2023 05:46 PM (/UtnQ)

306 Why is that these bombshell models practically never smile?
Is it because looking bored is supposed to be sexy?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2023 05:42 PM (Keyt1)

Because they know their dad would have a heart attack if they knew they took a picture that will be passed around by old men - at least I hope so, because I would.

Posted by: Boswell at June 05, 2023 05:46 PM (K+UlC)

307 Afternoon.

I think Disney might make a few (literally a few, like five or six bucks) on The Little Mermaid.

Hollywood doesn't like to talk about it but these productions are more and more subsidized. Georgia subsidizes the shit out of movie productions. Watch a lot of those movie credits to the end and you'll see a big ole Georgia peach at the end.

If Republicans want to start dominating the culture wars they'd campaign on ending state subsidies for bloated Hollyweird productions. It would be such an easy win for them. But as we all know the Republicans are fucking retards.

Posted by: Robert at June 05, 2023 05:46 PM (k/0aO)

308 "tanned, rested, and ready
Posted by: awkwafina"

... no no no, "tanned" is not what you looks for in a Snow White, we've been over this already.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 05, 2023 05:46 PM (ou9hh)

309 298 I wonder how much money Rick Astley has made courtesy of the "Rick Roll" phenomenon. I hope it's a lot.

I do too, he seems like a good guy, and he is quite talented.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
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If I remember reporting correctly, he hated the rick roll before he embraced it. Royalty checks and keeping his name recalled by others for selling projects is probably part of it.

Posted by: whig at June 05, 2023 05:47 PM (wUSgb)

310 Rachel Zegler will be Snow White. She was Maria in Spileberg's remake of West Side Story. She was pretty in that but looked like she was 12.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 05, 2023 05:47 PM (RqMSv)

311 299 282 "Snow White cast a hispanic girl. Because yup."

Should ha' cast a Chinese girl

tanned, rested, and ready
Posted by: awkwafina at June 05, 2023 05:45 PM (sGtp+)

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*hooks Sqawkwafina* and drags her off the stage*

Posted by: Comically Large Vaudeville Hook at June 05, 2023 05:48 PM (ssESX)

312 Is it because looking bored is supposed to be sexy?

************

it's because smiling is serving the patriarchy, hence why you have the phenomenon of resting bitch face. A beautiful woman who smiles makes men happy, and since cisgendered men are evil and must be destroyed, women are thus encouraged to never smile, ever

I wish I was joking

Posted by: The Unfaucinated and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 05, 2023 05:49 PM (VTu1l)

313 Good point, Boswell.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2023 05:49 PM (Keyt1)

314 One of the funniest things I have seen was a group of guys from Sierra Leon, black as the inside of a coal mine... talking to American black people, pointing out that they are all mixed race and should just shut the hell up.

Richard Pryor had a joke where he went back to the Motherland (Africa), and asked one of the local chiefs which tribe the chief thought Pryor was from.

The chief replied: "Italian?"

Posted by: A Provocative Parade Of Perverts! at June 05, 2023 05:49 PM (2tUFv)

315 Will they update the Seven Dwarves for post-modern times? They can have the whole spectrum of LGBT&&&&&,

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 05, 2023 05:50 PM (RqMSv)

316 Snow White may or may not have actual dwarves (they'll have 7 of something with the names of the original 7, but we'll see if they are dwarves, since that is in doubt). They certainly won't be who they were before...
Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2023 05:46 PM (exHjb)

Oompaloompas?

That odd Rammstein music video, Sonne?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StZcUAPRRac

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2023 05:50 PM (xhaym)

317 If Republicans want to start dominating the culture wars they'd campaign on ending state subsidies for bloated Hollyweird productions. It would be such an easy win for them. But as we all know the Republicans are fucking retards.
Posted by: Robert

Neither the GOP nor Democrats 'represent' their constituents and their best interests. Both are owned by interest groups--just different ones. Our political parties embraced the stakeholder model far before Blackstone, Vanguard, State St, etc and banks extended it to our banking and investments.

Voters have been screwed for decades just as stockholders are getting the bell end nowadays.

Posted by: whig at June 05, 2023 05:50 PM (wUSgb)

318 Harrison Ford was the oldest actor in American Graffiti back in 1973 at 58.*

*I may have made that up.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 05, 2023 05:50 PM (Q4IgG)

319 @312

>>Rachel Zegler will be Snow White. She was Maria in Spileberg's remake of West Side Story. She was pretty in that but looked like she was 12.

As someone said, they are intentionally jacking up and cucking their own trademarks.

It's so perverse and counter to any sane business case and shareholder value retention analysis that it only makes sense that demonic forces are at play.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 05, 2023 05:51 PM (up/3i)

320 269 That's how I felt watching the mine cart scene in Indiana Jones 2. Spielberg has a problem with this, directing video game/amusement park ride sequences. Peter Jackson did some of that too, although the worst parts went on the cutting room floor.

and yet surfing on a wave of molten gold survived.

Posted by: anachronda at June 05, 2023 05:52 PM (sGtp+)

321 @312
The only power the patriarchy has left is to look down their noses the resting bitch faces (preferably with a pair of glasses resting low on the bridge of the nose).

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 05, 2023 05:52 PM (ssESX)

322
Wow! Both Chris Christie and Mike Pence are expected to announce in the next couple of days. Tough choice.

Posted by: Said No One at June 05, 2023 05:52 PM (enJYY)

323 hanoi Jane's mom offed herself

when J Fo was 13

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2023 05:53 PM (us2H3)

324 322
Wow! Both Chris Christie and Mike Pence are expected to announce in the next couple of days. Tough choice.
Posted by: Said No One at June 05, 2023 05:52 PM (enJYY)

fat chance and no chance

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2023 05:54 PM (us2H3)

325 "it only makes sense that demonic forces are at play."

Disney's directors are non-entities, so we can can conclude they were picked for other reasons.

More and more public companies are tying executive bonuses to ESG targets, at the expense of using stock performance and profits.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 05, 2023 05:54 PM (RqMSv)

326 fat chance and no chance

LOL. Well played.

Posted by: Bosk at June 05, 2023 05:54 PM (VMFAF)

327 and yet surfing on a wave of molten gold survived.

You gotta admit, saying it like that makes it sound awesome.

The bunny sleigh, less so.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2023 05:54 PM (0hOvj)

328 @324 You win the day!

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 05, 2023 05:55 PM (RqMSv)

329 324 322
Wow! Both Chris Christie and Mike Pence are expected to announce in the next couple of days. Tough choice.
Posted by: Said No One at June 05, 2023 05:52 PM (enJYY)

fat chance and no chance
Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2023 05:54 PM (us2H3)
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Tweedledee and Tweedledum, 2024

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 05, 2023 05:55 PM (ssESX)

330 322 Wow! Both Chris Christie and Mike Pence are expected to announce in the next couple of days. Tough choice.
Posted by: Said No One
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Free bucks tossed to them by people that hate Trump and DeSantis. Typical GOPe spread the field crap that gives full employment to wretched GOPe campaign operatives and fundraisers.

Posted by: whig at June 05, 2023 05:55 PM (wUSgb)

331 She was pretty in that but looked like she was 12.

Yeah looking at pictures, she seems like she just left her Quinceañera

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2023 05:56 PM (0hOvj)

332 @324
And yeah, that was solidly played, bravo!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 05, 2023 05:56 PM (ssESX)

333 ‘ We're going to talk about The Little Mermaid, how it's doing okay domestically, but internationally, oh boy, this movie is in a ton of trouble ‘

Well, no, it’s not really even doing “OK” domestically. It’s way behind domestic projections. You think Disney projected a 60% drop off from an already underwhelming opening (long) weekend?

This is important. Don’t let Disney pimps blame “racist” foreign audiences for this flop. Americans don’t like it either.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 05, 2023 05:56 PM (l7HIW)

334 Free bucks tossed to them by people that hate Trump and DeSantis. Typical GOPe spread the field crap that gives full employment to wretched GOPe campaign operatives and fundraisers.
Posted by: whig at June 05, 2023 05:55 PM (wUSgb)

probably 50% of Rove Inc's money comes from the left

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2023 05:57 PM (us2H3)

335 Did anybody see Nikki Haley destroy the CNN town all with 2003yr facts and logic?

Posted by: Eagle Lips at June 05, 2023 05:58 PM (++mCi)

336 Good point, Boswell.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2023 05:49 PM (Keyt1)

I have a beautiful daughter - plays scratch golf, is a vision to behold, just graduated Cum Laude from a major Liberal Arts College - the amount of love, time and effort put into to developing her as a young, confident professional woman, I cannot tell you, or even calculate - if her internet picture was shared here with her boobs out, I probably would weep, I don't mind saying.

Sorry Joe, I certainly understand our shared male libidos - but I am just giving the other side of the picture.

Posted by: Boswell at June 05, 2023 05:59 PM (K+UlC)

337 Sorry Joe, I certainly understand our shared male libidos - but I am just giving the other side of the picture.

They are all somebody's daughter, I try to remember that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2023 06:00 PM (0hOvj)

338 Let's not forget that Pixar was putting out fantastic animation before it was Disneyfied.
Toy Story 3 is one of my favorites.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 05, 2023 06:00 PM (RqMSv)

339 As Chris Rock says, it's a dad's job to keep his girl off the pole.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 05, 2023 06:01 PM (RqMSv)

340 probably 50% of Rove Inc's money comes from the left
Posted by: REDACTED
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Yep, that is the uniparty contributions where executives of megacorp toss a few bones to the controlled opposition.

There is a connection between big donor money and corruption and always has been for office holders. The few honest ones get their own individual contribution networks such as Rand Paul instead of being lazy ass grifting senators who get their money from the Mitch leadership PAC. He gets this money from the same source that Rove does---rich whale donors that hate taxes and megacorps buying Uniparty protection like Pfizer, etc.

Posted by: whig at June 05, 2023 06:02 PM (wUSgb)

341 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE MERMAIDS DON'T HAVE LEGS.

BEN ROETHLISBERGER

Posted by: Pete in Texas at June 05, 2023 06:02 PM (b8LUX)

342 341 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE MERMAIDS DON'T HAVE LEGS.

BEN ROETHLISBERGER

well, that depends. in the red dwarf episode "better than life", cat had a mermaid girlfriend that did. fish head, human legs.

Posted by: anachronda at June 05, 2023 06:05 PM (sGtp+)

343 you never know

my wife is so straight and true it's unbelievable

her younger sis is a bum, worse than a bum

was pimpiing her daughter out at 12

busted twice for drug distribution

her daughter is totally wasted now, addict with 2 prison tours and 3 kids

course, they all live in Austin

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2023 06:06 PM (us2H3)

344 They are all somebody's daughter, I try to remember that.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 05, 2023 06:00 PM (0hOvj)

This is the part where someone says, like in that comedy movie "thank god for bad dads!"

Every time I think of that, I cringe.

Posted by: Boswell at June 05, 2023 06:06 PM (K+UlC)

345 Disney usually has a much higher percentage of take from the opening weeks, up to 90%. George Lucas started this, threatening not to give theaters movies if they didn't play ball. It's why theaters have to charge so much for popcorn and soda.

Another thing Disney does, and I think there might have been a little of this with Fast X, is to buy up tickets to make the box office look good.
$200 million in tickets, of which Disney collects 90%, means is a good spend of $20 million in marketing, plus maybe another 10 million if the actors have a share of gross.

Posted by: MikeN at June 05, 2023 06:06 PM (XygMV)

346 Posted by: whig at June 05, 2023 06:02 PM (wUSgb)

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Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2023 06:07 PM (us2H3)

347 Think about this - how could a studio that owns the rights to Indiana jones lose money? Not just a little money, a LOT of money? Easy - they spend too much making the movies.

Adjusted for inflation the original Indiana Jones cost $63 million to make. Temple of doom, $81 million. Last Crusade was $117 million.

Dial of destiny is $300+ million.

Let's say dial of destiny was made for $100 million. It would just need $200 million to break even, not $600 million.

And that goes right back to Kathleen Kennedy - she's running things terribly. Budgets are way too high. Way too much is being spent on digital effects, and way too much is spent in reshoots. Those are things producers are supposed to control.

Posted by: Inspector kemp at June 05, 2023 06:48 PM (nJ1bF)

348 Disney made Call of the Wild. It made $170 million worldwide - pretty good. Problem is they spent $125 million on it, most of it on a CGI DOG. It's like nobody told them real dogs exist.

That movie should have cost maybe $60 million, and maybe netted a $50 million profit. Instead, it cost $125 million, and lost $70 million.

That is the problem.

Posted by: Inspector kemp at June 05, 2023 06:52 PM (nJ1bF)

349 Robert Downey Jr., Dr. Dolittle.
Made $251 million
Cost $175 million (more than Iron Man!)
Lost $99 million.

Eddie Murphy Dr. Dolittle (in 1998 converted to 2023$)
Made $463 million
Cost $132 million
Made $199 million

It cost less to make but made more money.

Posted by: Inspector kemp at June 05, 2023 06:59 PM (nJ1bF)

350 I think digital effects is part of the problem - it lets lazy perfectionists run the show. It allows bad directors to hide their mistakes. "Everything will get fixed in post" means the story isn't well thought out to begin with.

It has become a crutch for bad filmmakers, and bad producers. A way to just throw money at problems. And heck, maybe it is just harder to see the problems with the movie when so much of the movie is being done in post. When you have to film everything live, it's easy to spot little mistakes, and make adjustments as you go along. I think it's also easy to think that digital effects can fix anything. Thye can, but it costs a LOT of money.

It's like going to a hospital for every little ache and pain. It works, but it costs a fortune.

Posted by: Inspector kemp at June 05, 2023 07:05 PM (nJ1bF)

351 Just about all their live action remakes of their cartoon classics from the last few years have Bombed

Posted by: Tamaa The Drongo Bird at June 05, 2023 07:11 PM (wGqjj)

352 I'm in the break room at work. The TV only catches broadcast. Right now, 645 PM Central, the local ABC affiliate is playing a Star Wars themed episode of Wheel of Fortune. Sajak is a Nam vet for crying out loud, he deserves better!

Posted by: hurricane567 at June 05, 2023 07:44 PM (fZq/w)

353 Kudos. Time to break out the bubbly!

Posted by: Bud Light at June 05, 2023 07:55 PM (M8pms)

354 In the last 12 months Disney has earned a profit of 27 billion
50 or 100 million is nothing but a rounding off error
27,000,000,000 27 billion
100,000,000. 100 million
If Disney had 10 more "flops" like this
It would result in a 4% drop in profits

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