Mental and Emotional GAINZZZ

Canada is now printing health warnings on each individual cigarette.

The Easy Way to Quit Smoking doesn't use scary health warnings to sell the reader on quitting smoker. The author realizes that smokers hear this stuff 24/7, and tune it out. Worse, warnings like this make them agitated, which has the effect of... making them reach for a cigarette for comfort.

Instead, the book's author, Alan Carr, focuses on smaller problems with smoking, and also emphasizes the benefits of being a non-smoker. Instead of giving something up, you're choosing to have something valuable. That helps defuse the whole Fear of Missing Out thing where people say "But I'll miss smoking."

Here's an example: The book talks about the very real and very annoying fact that any smoker, when at a dinner party or out at a restaurant, will crave a cigarette every 30 or 40 minutes, and will not be able to enjoy himself until he excuses himself for eight minutes to stand outside in the cold and lonely. This ends the Nic Fit... for about five minutes, after which withdrawal symptoms begin and the agitation to smoke starts building again.

The Easy Way to Quit Smoking notes that if you didn't smoke, you wouldn't have that Nic Fit, and wouldn't have to get up every thirty or forty minutes to suck down a cigarette. A small benefit, but he talks about ten or twelve small benefits like that. They add up.

Like... once you're a nonsmoker, you're not going to panic when you're out of cigarettes, and get yourself all bundled up to drive to 7-Eleven at midnight just to make sure you've got cigarettes for the morning.

And you're never going to have to suffer the indignity of fishing through the nasty crushed-out butts in an ashtray looking for cigarettes that can still be smoked for a couple of puffs.

Let me tell you, I do not miss that.

Burning your eyebrows when you light a cigarette off an oven burner? I do not miss that, either.

If you'd like to ~~give up smoking~~ choose to have the benefits of being a non-smoker, I really can't recommend the book enough. I stopped smoking four days after I started reading it and not only never smoked again, but never wanted to smoke again. Including when I was drinking with friends who were smoking right in front of me.

Nicotine is only mildly addictive physically. The main hook is mental, and the book is amazing at breaking that mental hook down.

He advises quitting cold turkey, when you're ready to quit. (He doesn't say you have to quit right away; he says you should finish the book first.) I don't know if cold turkey works as I didn't do it that way; I used Nicorette nicotine gum and a Blu electronic cigarette to get through it. Either way, the important thing is breaking down the belief that one needs to smoke.

Exercise can stave off or reverse age-related mental decline, another study finds.

Scientists naturally have wondered if we can slow or reverse this falloff in our brains' function. To investigate that pressing question, Smith and his colleagues recruited 33 volunteers in their 70s and 80s, about half of whom were experiencing mild cognitive impairment, a loss of thinking skills that often precedes Alzheimer's disease.
Everyone was asked to complete an array of physiological and mental tests. In one, the researchers read aloud a brief story and asked the volunteers to recount it. In another, the volunteers lay quietly during a functional MRI scan that pinpointed electrical activity in many parts of their brains.
Afterward, half of the volunteers, including some with mild cognitive impairment, started exercising, visiting a supervised gym four times a week to briskly walk for about 30 minutes. The others stayed inactive.
After four months, everyone repeated the original tests.
But their results diverged. The exercisers, even those with mild cognitive impairment, scored better on the cognitive tests, particularly the repeat-the-story version. The sedentary volunteers didn't.
More intriguing, the exercisers' brains had changed. Before the study, brain scans of the older volunteers had showed mostly weak or scattershot connections between and within major brain networks.
Our brains work best when various, distinct networks interact and connect, facilitating complex thinking and memory formation. This process can be seen in action on brain scans, when connected brain networks light up in tandem, like synchronized Christmas lights.
After four months of exercise, the scans showed that brain connections were stronger than before, with cells and whole networks lighting up at the same time, a common hallmark of better thinking.

Scientists determined that two risk factors severely accelerated age-related mental decline: Owning a Corvette and using your grandchildren as bag-men to collect bribes from China, Romania, and Ukraine.

They also found that exercise aided neurogenesis, the creation of new brain cells. It's not true, as an old claim has it, that you can't create new brain cells after age 25 or whatever. It's just that the creation of new brain cells happens slowly and in small numbers.

Exercise spurs the creation of brain cells. That's been known for a while. But this study found that exercise is key to properly usefully linking these new brain cells to other brain cells, so they're part of a working network. The new brain cells of sedentary people were found to be poorly connected to the network, and thus mostly just taking up space.

Jordan Peterson just spoke with Dr. Peter Attia about this last week.

Exercise can also reduce or reverse depression.

While we are all still recovering from the collective COVID Hangover, interesting data on mental health and physical activity has been published by Montana State University Extension Specialist Michelle Grocke, Ph.D. She published a paper in 2021 that identified physical activity as a protective factor for mental health. This means that regular exercise can create a positive state of wellbeing.
Her data, based on surveys from 4,026 people from five states, identified a three-phase process that leads normally active people to become less active and as a result experience a decline in mental health status. Phase one was a stimulating event that caused psychological distress and a short-term decline in physical activity. Phase two resulted in increased feelings of distress from the decline in physical activity. Phase three resulted in even less physical activity and worsening mental health status. Many of us can relate to this three-phase spiral into an overall experience of malaise, or rather the COVID Hangover.
How do we recover from this hangover? Physical activity. Exercise. Just getting up and moving your body around more than you did yesterday. Not only can physical activity improve your mental health, but it is good medicine for your brain too. Depression impacts 300 million people worldwide, and 17 million Americans. This is a staggering number, and enough evidence now supports the positive impact of exercise on the brain and should be considered an important tool for treating mental health.
The antidepressant effects of exercise were not limited by age, gender or health status. Compared to the time and expense of talk therapy, exercise provides a low-cost treatment that is accessible to anyone, any place, at any stage of life. Data shows that increased physical activity and all types of exercise, from dance-based aerobic workouts to pumping iron, improve the mental health of those who make physical activity a routine in daily life.

A study finds that exercise is 1.5x as effective in fighting depression than drugs.

Exercise as a treatment for severe depression is at least as effective as standard drugs or psychotherapy and by some measures better, according to the largest study to date of exercise as "medicine" for depression.
The study pooled data from 41 studies involving 2,265 people with depression and showed that almost any type of exercise substantially reduces depression symptoms, although some forms of exercise seemed more beneficial than others.
"We found large, significant results," said Andreas Heissel, an exercise scientist at the University of Potsdam in Germany, who led the study.
For people struggling with depression, he said, the findings show you don't have to run marathons or otherwise train strenuously to benefit. "Something is better than nothing," Heissel said.
The effects were robust enough that the study's authors hope the finding will spur a move to make exercise a standard, prescribed therapy for depression.
That approach would represent a notable shift. The American Psychological Association's clinical practice guidelines, updated in 2019, recommend seven types of psychotherapy and several antidepressants for the treatment of depression, but they do not mention exercise. The World Health Organization promotes exercise for mental health as an add-on to traditional treatments -- not on its own.
But the study's authors are confident. "We expect this review to lead to updated guidelines and recommendations for exercise as a first-line treatment option," Heissel said.
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Scientists and clinicians have known for some time that exercise protects us against developing depression. In large-scale epidemiological studies, active men and women become depressed at much lower rates than sedentary people, even if they exercise for only a few minutes a day or a few days a week.
Pooled, the effects were potent. Overall, people with depression who exercised in any way improved their symptoms by almost five points, using one widely recognized diagnostic scale, and by about 6.5 points using another. For both scales, an improvement of three points or more is considered clinically meaningful, the study's authors write.
In practical terms, these numbers suggest that, for every two people with depression who start to exercise, one of them should experience "a large-magnitude reduction in depressive symptoms," Heissel said.

So, obviously: Man has become too damn good at adapting his surroundings to fit himself. He has made it so that most people are not compelled to do physical work during the day. Thanks to cars and elevators, he doesn't even have to walk very much if he'd rather not.

This may be what part of the brain wants -- the part concerned with conserving energy in case we're charged by a mastodon later in the day -- but we've become so good at conserving energy that we're not expending much of it. And other parts of the brain don't like that at all. Man feels out-of-sorts in the modern world for the simple reason that his body and brain weren't built for the modern world.

The internet is an enormous innovation which separates us from the lives we were built to lead even more. Never in 100,000 years of human existence have we had the ability to amuse ourselves endlessly by taking a small device out of our pocket and scrolling for novelties. We used to have to actually do some level of work to entertain ourselves.

I struggle to read more than a few pages of an actual book at a time, unless it's very compelling. I think almost everyone feels this to some extent. Our ability to focus and just exist in the quiet times has been shattered.

And of course we spent 18 months (or more) in isolation or semi-isolation thanks to the geniuses the media calls our Public Health Experts. Man is a social animal. Even the anti-social ones are still kind of social.

Any small effort to push the body and brain towards the expected conditions they were built for must be good for them.

I've personally realized that, for me, when someone asks "How do you feel?," my answer is based almost entirely on how much energy I have, physical and mental. If I'm Low Energy Jeb, I feel bad. If I'm High Energy Garrett (bursting with energy due to dangerous levels of amyl nitrate consumption), I feel good.

Unless there's some particular reason for a strong emotion, good or bad, or an injury, how I "feel" just comes down to how much energy I have.

And exercise increases energy. I mean, not immediately after the exercise, obviously, but after recovery.

Do you agree? Is this obvious? It may be obvious but I'm not sure that I've seen people make the point: "Feeling good" equals "having ample bodily energy."

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So: Do you have any GAINZZZ you want to inspire us with?

Posted by: Ace at 03:00 PM

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Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 02, 2023 03:00 PM (JMAcK)

2 I feel canceled.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 02, 2023 03:01 PM (zhLdt)

3 Fix the strikethrough...

There!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 02, 2023 03:01 PM (JMAcK)

4
Can you kindly close the tag? Thanks.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 02, 2023 03:01 PM (MoZTd)

5 I'll never tire of this place..

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:01 PM (LvTSG)

6 Un-Lucky Strike

Posted by: Methos at June 02, 2023 03:01 PM (kOpft)

7 Good afternoon everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 02, 2023 03:02 PM (qoGsy)

8 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:03 PM (Zz0t1)

9 The only thing I miss about smoking is ordering things with my Marlboro Miles.

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 02, 2023 03:03 PM (xPl2J)

10 >>>6 Un-Lucky Strike

exactly, that's the coded message I was sending.

*somebody* gets me. Unlike all these swine who cannot appreciate my pearls.

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:03 PM (KRtlO)

11 Scientists determined that one risk factor severely accelerated age-related mental decline: Owning a Corvette.

What about Vespas and Crocs?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)

12
For "intriguing" substitute "fascinating". This is a pet peeve of mine.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 02, 2023 03:04 PM (MoZTd)

13 How can Joe be losing his marbles what with all those pushups he does?

Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:04 PM (eGTCV)

14 "Exercise can stave off or reverse age-related mental decline[.]" F. Joe the Mushbrain would have to run a marathon a week to reverse his condition!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 02, 2023 03:05 PM (J2vNu)

15 I'm a little suspicious. If cigarettes are that bad for me, why would the government not hide the fact?

Posted by: t-bird at June 02, 2023 03:05 PM (Sv58p)

16 We're having leg pics?

Posted by: Oh? at June 02, 2023 03:05 PM (vzKTo)

17 And of course we spent 18 months (or more) in isolation or semi-isolation thanks to the geniuses the media calls our Public Health Experts. Man is a social animal. Even the anti-social ones are still kind of social.
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One of the hidden benefits of a large family, in case the "elites" act stupid again. We were "isolated" from the rest of the world.

If you've got 6 (or more) people around, it doesn't feel very isolated.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 02, 2023 03:06 PM (JMAcK)

18 Scientists determined that one risk factor severely accelerated age-related mental decline: Owning a Corvette.
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What about Vespas and Crocs?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)

I assume that's age related "born that way".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 02, 2023 03:06 PM (zhLdt)

19 Yoga dog is teh awesome.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:06 PM (Zz0t1)

20 I'm a non-smoker but I'm not sure I agree with the smoking alone thing. I've always seen smokers going out as a group to indulge.

Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:06 PM (eGTCV)

21 Canada is now printing health warnings on each individual cigarette.

Filtered cigarettes bad.
Unfiltered pot A-OK.

Got it.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2023 03:07 PM (GIBR7)

22 >>>20 I'm a non-smoker but I'm not sure I agree with the smoking alone thing. I've always seen smokers going out as a group to indulge.

well as the number of smokers declines, smoking alone increases.

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:07 PM (KRtlO)

23 No GAINZZZ unless you count the void within my soul getting larger.

Posted by: How does one fight the insatiable emptiness? at June 02, 2023 03:07 PM (fiChp)

24 On the "You Are Amazing" video, (a) that dog looks a lot like my late cat Chekov, who never showed a bit of interest in exercising with me, and (b) I had hoped the redhead would be barefoot.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 02, 2023 03:07 PM (J2vNu)

25
Filtered cigarettes bad.
Unfiltered pot A-OK.

Got it.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2023 03:07 PM (GIBR7)

Its really always amazed me the people didn't know inhaling the remnants of burning things was harmful.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:08 PM (Zz0t1)

26 22 >>>20 I'm a non-smoker but I'm not sure I agree with the smoking alone thing. I've always seen smokers going out as a group to indulge.

well as the number of smokers declines, smoking alone increases.
Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:07 PM (KRtlO)

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There's an IT Crowd episode about this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:08 PM (LvTSG)

27
I just came in from mowing the front two acres in 90 degree heat and my mental acuity at the moment is on par with that of a bowl of oatmeal.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 02, 2023 03:08 PM (MoZTd)

28 zerohedge @zerohedge · 28m
Elon Musk Becomes World's Richest Person (Again) After Luxury Bust Hits Bernard Arnault
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Elon or the underlings??

@AOCpress
This account doesn’t exist
Try searching for another.

AOC parody account wiped despite being Verified. [thanks, Sponge; good point]
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Charlie Kirk @charliekirk11 · Jun 1
BREAKING: JP Morgan just downgraded Target's stock, after its longest losing streak in 23 years citing "too many concerns rising’.

Happy Pride Month Target!!

Elon Musk @elonmusk
Won’t be long before there are class-action lawsuits by shareholders against the company and board of directors for destruction of shareholder value

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 02, 2023 03:08 PM (Vwz3I)

29 I-uh, uh-I-uh s-s-smoke, smoke-uh,, I s-s-smoke uh-weed

yeah

Posted by: John Fetterman at June 02, 2023 03:08 PM (vwCZJ)

30
well as the number of smokers declines, smoking alone increases.
Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:07 PM (KRtlO)

Sweden is almost a smoke free country as less than 5% of citizens smoke.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:09 PM (Zz0t1)

31 I think we're down to something like 12-15% smokers or something really low. Certainly it's at the lowest level since the habit became widespread.

Actually, it's lower:

n 2021, nearly 12 of every 100 U.S. adults aged 18 years or older (11.5%) currently* smoked cigarettes. This means an estimated 28.3 million adults in the United States currently smoke cigarettes.2

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:09 PM (KRtlO)

32 Nicotine is only mildly addictive physically. The main hook is mental, and the book is amazing at breaking that mental hook down.
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For me, it's the motion as much as anything else. The hand-to-mouth action is a big part of the mental hook, at least for me. It's why e-cigs work so well.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 02, 2023 03:09 PM (DU+/6)

33 27
I just came in from mowing the front two acres in 90 degree heat and my mental acuity at the moment is on par with that of a bowl of oatmeal.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 02, 2023 03:08 PM (MoZTd)

Have any brown sugar and cinnamon?

Posted by: Mmmm...oatmeal at June 02, 2023 03:10 PM (fiChp)

34 30
well as the number of smokers declines, smoking alone increases.
Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:07 PM (KRtlO)

Sweden is almost a smoke free country as less than 5% of citizens smoke.
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The Swedes are hooked on Allen Wrenches.

Posted by: Puddinhead at June 02, 2023 03:10 PM (NsE9F)

35 @AOCpress
This account doesn’t exist
Try searching for another.

AOC parody account wiped despite being Verified. [thanks, Sponge; good point]
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Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 02, 2023 03:08 PM (Vwz3I)

At hat tip!

WOOT!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:10 PM (Zz0t1)

36 Ace, I've never smoked the white sticks. Amazing, when you consider my mother smoked, she had her supply right in the kitchen and would often ask me to bring her a pack, and two of my major fictional heroes (James Bond and Ellery Queen) were both big puffers. I could never see the attraction, though.

Pipe smoking is another story. It's for relaxation, not for a hit of nicotine, and I don't inhale the smoke anyway. And the pipes look like miniature bits of carved furniture. Even if you don't use them, they're attractive.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 02, 2023 03:10 PM (J2vNu)

37 I remember a time when a lot of professional athletes were committed smokers.

Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:10 PM (eGTCV)

38 I call bullshit

Only way exercise would improve my depression if I was at the gym surrounded by Mannix's based babes cheering me on

Posted by: The Unfaucinated and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 02, 2023 03:10 PM (VTu1l)

39 Scientists determined that two risk factors severely accelerated age-related mental decline: Owning a Corvette and using your grandchildren as bag-men to collect bribes from China, Romania, and Ukraine.
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*snort*

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 02, 2023 03:10 PM (DU+/6)

40 Burning up those warnings and smoking them must feel fucking amazing. I wish they would start doing Dem slogans and outreach.

Like Hillary Stronger Together, Biden A Man of Honor and Decency, or Save the Climate, so I could take up smoking. I would enjoy burning them more than smoking them.

Posted by: ... at June 02, 2023 03:10 PM (wkk9P)

41 Aaaaaaand that’s why they tried to stop exercising during the Covid lockdowns! Feel free to bake fatty foods, drink, smoke weed just don’t go outside or go to the gym. And no worshipping God, getting support from your faith community!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2023 03:10 PM (mo/0F)

42 >>>For me, it's the motion as much as anything else. The hand-to-mouth action is a big part of the mental hook, at least for me

Garrett had the hand-to-mouth problem, but he figured out a sexy way to satisfy that itch.

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:10 PM (KRtlO)

43 For years after I quit I would have dreams that I was smoking that gave me simultaneous feelings of pleasure and guilt.

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 02, 2023 03:10 PM (xPl2J)

44 Canada is now printing health warnings on each individual cigarette.

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To reprise my willowed comment:

"Safetyism" is ironically one of the latest religious sects of The Leftist Death Cult.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist wand Your AI Interpreter at June 02, 2023 03:11 PM (4F3ju)

45 Every living person in the last half century knew and knows that cigarette smoking is dangerous to your health. Coffin Nails isn't a recent nick name.

Posted by: polynikes at June 02, 2023 03:11 PM (UpUEm)

46 >>>20 I'm a non-smoker but I'm not sure I agree with the smoking alone thing. I've always seen smokers going out as a group to indulge.

well as the number of smokers declines, smoking alone increases.
Posted by: ace

It's a club and the club is becoming more exclusive.
There is no down side to this...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 02, 2023 03:11 PM (JUfCX)

47 If only Biden had spent more time washing his Trans-Am as Vice President... (from The Onion in 2009, when they were still sort of funny) https://tinyurl.com/55tdw25y

I posted this in a F-Body auto forum back then and the mods censored it because it was "disrespectful" -- an auto forum.

I, myself, will be hitting the gym today to fight cognitive decline and for GAINZZ.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 02, 2023 03:11 PM (ssESX)

48 If there's one thing Potsdam U. knows, it's BIG Gainzz!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potsdam_Giants

[Frederick William I, father of Frederick the Great.]

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 02, 2023 03:11 PM (Vwz3I)

49 Let's put it this way, I've never associated feeling sluggish with feeling happy.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 02, 2023 03:11 PM (KbCG3)

50 For me its those damned whiskey sours.

Posted by: Puddinhead at June 02, 2023 03:11 PM (NsE9F)

51 For me, it's the motion as much as anything else. The hand-to-mouth action is a big part of the mental hook
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This is far too coherent to be Kamala

Posted by: ... at June 02, 2023 03:11 PM (wkk9P)

52 Posted by: How does one fight the insatiable emptiness? at June 02, 2023 03:07 PM (fiChp)

You want to tell us what's going on?
,
You will find numerous articles on the internet on "How can I end the emptiness"? inside written from a purely psychological perspective, if you are unable to embrace a spiritual one.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2023 03:12 PM (Keyt1)

53 38 I call bullshit

Only way exercise would improve my depression if I was at the gym surrounded by Mannix's based babes cheering me on
Posted by: The Unfaucinated and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at June 02, 2023 03:10 PM (VTu1l)

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There's a dopamine effect with completing a workout. It's hard, it takes effort, and there's a feeling of accomplishment in the end.

Plus, the longer you do it, the better you end up looking and feeling physically.

If there isn't an effect regarding depression, I'd be very surprised. Before relying on pills, eat better and work out for a few months and see if that helps.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:12 PM (LvTSG)

54 Coffin Nails would be a cool cigarette brand name. Its base customer would be the 'fuck it' guy.

Posted by: polynikes at June 02, 2023 03:12 PM (UpUEm)

55 As an alternative to smoking I would gladly set Justin Castreau on fire.

Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:12 PM (eGTCV)

56 37 I remember a time when a lot of professional athletes were committed smokers.
Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:10 PM (eGTCV)

Baseball players don't count.

Posted by: Standing around scratching your balls isn't very athletic at June 02, 2023 03:12 PM (fiChp)

57 Deadlifts today.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 02, 2023 03:12 PM (44ww/)

58 Smoking doesn't bother me so it's not a personal issue but I do know it's not helping you if you do smoke.

Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2023 03:12 PM (xhxe8)

59 "Safetyism" is ironically one of the latest religious sects of The Leftist Death Cult.

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The emasculation and infantilization of America continues unabated and apace.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist wand Your AI Interpreter at June 02, 2023 03:12 PM (4F3ju)

60 Denis Leary knew how well the warnings on cigarettes work:
https://youtu.be/ELV5HV6-koI

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 02, 2023 03:12 PM (DU+/6)

61 So you get to burn the warning on your cigarette?

Seems like a mixed message.

Posted by: spindrift at June 02, 2023 03:13 PM (ivvNA)

62 I stopped smoking 8 years ago, I started back, I'm up to 2 cigarettes a day.

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 02, 2023 03:13 PM (FVkoT)

63 I mean, just reading that headline makes me want a cigarette.

There is also the faint whiff of second hand in this breakroom from the smoke deck outside.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 02, 2023 03:13 PM (zZu0s)

64 I do my hair toss, check my nails
Baby how you feeling? (Feeling good as hell)
Hair toss, check my nails
Baby how you feeling? (Feeling good as hell)

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 02, 2023 03:13 PM (Wy1BU)

65 >>>Coffin Nails would be a cool cigarette brand name. Its base customer would be the 'fuck it' guy.

Posted by: polynikes

I think fifteen years ago when all this bullshit started, some country put skull and crossbones on cigarette packs, but found that people liked those packs.

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:14 PM (KRtlO)

66 I remember a time when a lot of professional athletes were committed smokers.
Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:10 PM (eGTCV)

It has long been rumored that Sergei Zubov (NY Rangers / Dallas Stars) used to huff a 1/2 a pack between periods.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

67 My mother smoked Pall Malls, and after that some brand (Tareyton?) where you got coupons on the back of the pack. You collected them and could send them in for items in a glossy catalog. It worked. After she passed away, I found her bundles of the coupons, and I was able to get a small battery-powered alarm clock and a Dustbuster. Of course this was in 1986.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 02, 2023 03:14 PM (J2vNu)

68 And gainz wise I did sprint around the house not quite twice one but didn't do it again since last Gainz thread. A bit hot now being in the 90s

Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2023 03:14 PM (xhxe8)

69 I hate whenever I put up a clever comment Ace puts up a Nood post.

I guess I'll stop making clever comments and be like Maj. Healey.

Posted by: Regular joe at June 02, 2023 03:14 PM (nnp+f)

70 Yoga dog is teh awesome. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:06 PM (Zz0t1)

We have an Aussie, and as one person put it, they have a mind of their own. I cannot imagine how many hours it took to train him, and how many takes, to capture those few seconds on video. Good boy!

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 02, 2023 03:14 PM (7B5FA)

71
I used to work for a company one of whose divisions made cellulose acetate tow for cigarette filters. The bulk of their market was in China.

"Just spitballing," I said, "but it sounds like smoking goes up when the people in a country can afford cigarettes and starts going down when they conclude they're harmful." They hemmed and hawed and replied, essentially, yes that's the case.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 02, 2023 03:14 PM (MoZTd)

72 54 Coffin Nails would be a cool cigarette brand name. Its base customer would be the 'fuck it' guy.
Posted by: polynikes at June 02, 2023 03:12 PM (UpUEm)

Seems like there was one in either reality or fiction. Non-filter shorts- like old school camels.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 02, 2023 03:15 PM (zZu0s)

73 I smoked for 40 years and tried a number of times to quit, but never had any luck until I took Chantix. After 3 days, I didn't want a cigarette, but I continued for another week just out of habit. Totally painless, no willpower involved. That's how things should be.

Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 03:15 PM (VP9ao)

74 >>> 28 AOC parody account wiped despite being Verified.

Wait - they got rid of a parody account that announced it was a parody twice(!) because of the shrieking of an idiot? There's no hope.

Posted by: DJ at June 02, 2023 03:15 PM (H5y4s)

75 Gainzzzz.

Below 200 for 2 days in a row.
I'll take it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 02, 2023 03:15 PM (JUfCX)

76
It has long been rumored that Sergei Zubov (NY Rangers / Dallas Stars) used to huff a 1/2 a pack between periods.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

Guy Lafleur probably did that.

Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:15 PM (eGTCV)

77 Another motivator to quit smoking? Get lung cancer. That'll do it. Of course it's too late then.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at June 02, 2023 03:15 PM (wagHN)

78 Safetyism" is ironically one of the latest religious sects of The Leftist Death Cult.

That is not 'latest' . It started with playgrounds and bike helmets decades ago.

Posted by: polynikes at June 02, 2023 03:15 PM (UpUEm)

79 >>>I stopped smoking 8 years ago, I started back, I'm up to 2 cigarettes a day.

I'm coming up on being ten years quit. Supposedly at the ten years mark, you've returned to the same health risks as non-smokers for all categories.

A lot of benefits are gained after a month, or a year, or two years. But at ten years, you're effectively the same as a lifelong non-smoker for all health risks.

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:15 PM (KRtlO)

80 One of the few vices I never tried was smoking. And I'll say it now - let the old folks bitch all they want - smoking was a defining trait of the Boomers and Silents.

It was more than the act itself. The collective expression defined them. Including the brand loyalty. All of it.

Posted by: Fool Me Once at June 02, 2023 03:15 PM (sQh5T)

81 I smoked a bit when I lived in Italy. My girlfriend smoked, and I kind of picked up the habit. Only slightly. I think I've purchased one pack in my whole life, and that was in Italy.

When I moved to America, I developed a little circle of friends and we had a little book club. One of the girls in it offered me cigarettes during the meetings, and I'd smoke 'em then.

Dolley and I started dating. I had said I was a non-smoker, and then I take her to one of these things. The girl offers me a cigarette, and Dolley and I have our first real fight when we leave.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:16 PM (LvTSG)

82 The final time I quit smoking I cheated. I got so sick with the flu I could hardly breathe. Tried to smoke a cigarette and couldn't inhale without having a 15 minute coughing fit. That lasted over a month and when I could sort of breathe better I realized I had already gotten over the physical hump of smoking cigarettes and never had another one.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 02, 2023 03:16 PM (ncXxy)

83 I hate freaking cigarettes. My brother killed himself with them. Still, I can’t stand the anti-smoking scolds. We all have our vices — booze, fatty foods, orgies with busty, nubile nymphomaniacs — and we know what the risks are that are associated with those vices. Enough with the scolding, already.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 02, 2023 03:16 PM (f800v)

84 62 I stopped smoking 8 years ago, I started back, I'm up to 2 cigarettes a day.
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Yep. I've stopped twice. Both times lasted short of two years. What triggered me starting again was commuting. Out of the blue while in traffic I just started thinking about having a smoke. Tried to keep to two a day then it regressed to norm. Nicotine is a remarkable drug. It will give you what you want from it. To relax or to focus.

Posted by: Puddinhead at June 02, 2023 03:16 PM (NsE9F)

85 Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 03:15 PM (VP9ao)

Did you have screwed up dreams?

Posted by: polynikes at June 02, 2023 03:16 PM (UpUEm)

86 Great.

The mind-controlling skeletal alien overlords from They Live make cigarettes now. "They Live... in Virginia."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 02, 2023 03:16 PM (oINRc)

87 Yoga dog IS amazing.

The redhead is not bad either.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 02, 2023 03:17 PM (zZu0s)

88 >>>Another motivator to quit smoking? Get lung cancer. That'll do it. Of course it's too late then.

right, but people tend to ignore the worse possible risks. They're too scary, so they just push that idea way, way down.

I think the book is right about this. If you want to get someone off smoking, you have to talk about lesser problems that they won't just immediately put into the Don't Think About It vault.

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:17 PM (KRtlO)

89 San Fran getting ready to register individual cigarettes to control crime like this...

Mark Dietrich @markdietrichsf
Tobacco store on 17th Ave and Geary smashed and burglarized last night. The owner, Bashir, an Afghani immigrant, said the 5 perps in 2 cars cleaned out his store stealing over $100k of products.

When we spoke, he had tears in his eyes he described how SF has turned into a 3rd world country, “just like Afghanistan” he said. He has tried to press his concerns to city hall “but no one in the city listens”.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 02, 2023 03:17 PM (Vwz3I)

90 I mean, just reading that headline makes me want a cigarette.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 02, 2023 03:13 PM (zZu0s)

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LOL, same.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 02, 2023 03:17 PM (DRSnL)

91 @53
Also not physically feeling like sh*t all the time is another net benefit pf regular exercise.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 02, 2023 03:17 PM (ssESX)

92 Gainzzzz: I've been severely depressed, stopped training for open water marathon swims. Lately I've been stopping by my wife's gym a few times a week, and I can definitely feel a difference in my mood and outlook.

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at June 02, 2023 03:17 PM (C8huM)

93 The hand-to-mouth action is a big part of the mental hook, at least for me.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 02, 2023 03:09 PM (DU+/6)

Well...whenever you want to smoke, just reach down and scratch your balls.

See? Fixed!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2023 03:18 PM (ZCCyW)

94 Another motivator to quit smoking? Get lung cancer. That'll do it. Of course it's too late then.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at June 02, 2023 03:15 PM (wagHN)

Didn't work for my dad.

Posted by: ... at June 02, 2023 03:18 PM (wkk9P)

95 I'm coming up on being ten years quit. Supposedly at the ten years mark, you've returned to the same health risks as non-smokers for all categories.

A lot of benefits are gained after a month, or a year, or two years. But at ten years, you're effectively the same as a lifelong non-smoker for all health risks.
Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:15 PM (KRtlO)

12 years here. I still want one. A LOT, depending on the stressors.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 02, 2023 03:18 PM (zZu0s)

96 Trucks carrying cigarettes used to be a big target for hijackers.

Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:18 PM (eGTCV)

97 I have been laughing so hard at that pole vaulter for the last 10 minutes that I didn't even think about smoking.....

Posted by: Molly k. at June 02, 2023 03:18 PM (j/yko)

98 I was lying in the ER after my heart attack and I asked my buddy to reach in my bag and grab my phone and he pulls out a pack of cigarettes. We laugh. Cute ER doc grabs the pack out of his hand and says "You won't be needing these anymore if you want to live.".

That was surprisingly helpful in quitting although I don't recommend it.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 02, 2023 03:18 PM (ZLI7S)

99 The girl offers me a cigarette, and Dolley and I have our first real fight when we leave.
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So you're saying you're pussy whipped, rite?

Posted by: Puddinhead at June 02, 2023 03:19 PM (NsE9F)

100 A hat tip!

WOOT!
Posted by: Sponge
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Credit where it's due!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 02, 2023 03:19 PM (Vwz3I)

101 I smoked for 40 years and tried a number of times to quit, but never had any luck until I took Chantix. After 3 days, I didn't want a cigarette, but I continued for another week just out of habit. Totally painless, no willpower involved. That's how things should be.
Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 03:15 PM (VP9ao)

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That stuff kicked my ass. I felt like I had a really bad case of the flu the whole time I was taking it (about 2 weeks total). AND it did not help me with cravings. Like, at all.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 02, 2023 03:19 PM (DRSnL)

102 As we fade in our memories, and older presidents suddenly seem better than in the day ... fuck Bill Clinton and his war on Big Tobacco.

Does anyone smoke less ? No - they just vape now. But billions in agriculture got destroyed in eight years.

Irony - mostly by fuckers voting for Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Fool Me Once at June 02, 2023 03:19 PM (sQh5T)

103 So you get to burn the warning on your cigarette?

Seems like a mixed message.
Posted by: spindrift at June 02, 2023

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The pipe tobacco makers are forced to put those warnings on the pouches or on the round 1.75 oz. tins, which ruins the artwork on the lid. In Europe, esp. Germany, they're all nicotine Nazi about it. "RAUCHEN IST TODTEN," the label screams (umlaut over the "O").

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 02, 2023 03:19 PM (J2vNu)

104
Trucks carrying cigarettes used to be a big target for hijackers.
Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:18 PM (eGTCV)

___________

Is running cigarettes still a thing?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 02, 2023 03:19 PM (MoZTd)

105 It has long been rumored that Sergei Zubov (NY Rangers / Dallas Stars) used to huff a 1/2 a pack between periods.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

Guy Lafleur probably did that.
Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:15 PM (eGTCV)

There are photos from the early part of the last century of the entire field of the Tour de France lighting up before the start of a mountain climb. The thinking apparently was it "expanded your lungs" or something.

Posted by: spindrift at June 02, 2023 03:19 PM (ivvNA)

106 Jim Leyland chain smoked in the dugout.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 02, 2023 03:19 PM (+Wcyp)

107 I've lost around 44 pounds in the 9 months. I cut out almost all sugars, reduced my portion sizes, reduced my card intake and got a nasty stomach virus that really helped.

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 02, 2023 03:19 PM (FVkoT)

108 Instead, the book's author, Alan Carr, focuses on smaller problems with smoking, and also emphasizes the benefits of being a non-smoker. Instead of giving something up, you're choosing to have something valuable. That helps defuse the whole Fear of Missing Out thing where people say "But I'll miss smoking."

Kindltot went cold turkey because he bought a house and then got transferred to an office 60 miles away through the worst traffic in the state that turned an 8-5 job into 14 to 16 hour experience. If I wanted to smoke it would have taken away from time I needed to run my house, cook and eat, maintain my relationship with my then GF, and sleep.
Fortunately the stress gave me insomnia so that gave me some extra time.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 02, 2023 03:19 PM (xhaym)

109 99 The girl offers me a cigarette, and Dolley and I have our first real fight when we leave.
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So you're saying you're pussy whipped, rite?
Posted by: Puddinhead at June 02, 2023 03:19 PM (NsE9F)

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Yes. I'm completely whipped. Beta male all the way.

Probably why I think Triangle is better than Ghost Ship.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:20 PM (LvTSG)

110 Didn't work for my dad.
Posted by: ... at June 02, 2023 03:18 PM (wkk9P)

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Or my grandparents.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 02, 2023 03:20 PM (DRSnL)

111 Cigarettes were an avoidance reaction for me. If I had to do something I really didn't want to do I would light up, even if it meant a 16 floor elevator trip and then outside.

I smoked for 40 years. As for quitting, Chantix did the trick for me.

Posted by: javems at June 02, 2023 03:20 PM (AmoqO)

112 >>>Nicotine is a remarkable drug. It will give you what you want from it. To relax or to focus.

Posted by: Puddinhead at June 0

not sure about that. The book has an explanation about that. It doesn't relax you; it's a stimulant that shrinks your blood vessels, increases blood pressure, and causes stress.

The "relaxation" effect is an illusion. What happens is this: After your last cigarette, you start getting withdrawal effects bit by bit. Eventually you have a Nic Fit and really, really want a cigarette. That's stress. At THAT point, when you have the cigarette, it relieves the stress of withdrawal, and you feel "relaxed."

But the stress you're relieving was only caused by the last cigarette you had! Without that, there is no "relaxation" effect because there's no addiction demanding to be satisfied.

oh, and seriously, it's very easy to get nicotine without smoking. Super Easy, barely a convenience.

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:20 PM (KRtlO)

113 @96
Tell me about it!

Posted by: Henry Hill at June 02, 2023 03:20 PM (ssESX)

114 Dolley and I started dating. I had said I was a non-smoker, and then I take her to one of these things. The girl offers me a cigarette, and Dolley and I have our first real fight when we leave.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:16 PM (LvTSG)

Dude, you know that wasn't about the cigarette, right?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 02, 2023 03:20 PM (zZu0s)

115 There is no way vaping isn't bad for you.

Posted by: ... at June 02, 2023 03:20 PM (wkk9P)

116 ___________

Is running cigarettes still a thing?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 02, 2023 03:19 PM (MoZTd)

I don't know this was maybe 30 years ago.

Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:20 PM (eGTCV)

117 Joe Biden must get a lot of exercise as he's obviously a healthy and vigorous 80!

Posted by: Jay in PA at June 02, 2023 03:20 PM (i7Q7S)

118 Lately I've been stopping by my wife's gym a few times a week, and I can definitely feel a difference in my mood and outlook.

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at June 02, 2023 03:17 PM (C8huM)

Hot chicks in spandex does that for me too!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2023 03:20 PM (ZCCyW)

119 --------
Credit where it's due!
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 02, 2023 03:19 PM (Vwz3I)

You're a great American!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:20 PM (Zz0t1)

120 I'm willing to bet the ink used to print those warnings is more toxic than the cig itself.

Posted by: Halfhand at June 02, 2023 03:21 PM (SUkrr)

121 My mom was a life long smoker who started at 14 . She quit when she was 79 but it was too late. The COPD and heart disease was permanent and it allowed COVID to get her at 82 years old.

Cigarettes though gave me some of my best childhood memories traveling to Fort Polk monthly with my Dad to grocery shop and get cartons of cigs at the PX.

Posted by: polynikes at June 02, 2023 03:21 PM (UpUEm)

122 114 Dude, you know that wasn't about the cigarette, right?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 02, 2023 03:20 PM (zZu0s)

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It was definitely about the cigarette.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:21 PM (LvTSG)

123 >>> I've lost around 44 pounds in the 9 months. I cut out almost all sugars, reduced my portion sizes, reduced my card intake and got a nasty stomach virus that really helped.

where can I get that nasty stomach virus?

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:21 PM (KRtlO)

124 I went to the gym this morning to work out on 3 machines. Moved a ton of metal in small increments. The machines won.

Exercise over 29 has plenty of benefits, but pain tolerance is needed. Fortunately, I got that. Social benefits from being a nerd while dating.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 02, 2023 03:21 PM (u82oZ)

125 Lou Piniella smoked in the dugout too.

Jackie Robinson and Hank Aaron made cigarette ads.

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 02, 2023 03:21 PM (xPl2J)

126 -Smoking Cigarettes could kill you, after racking up $$$s in health costs.

-Are you suffering from an aching back, toenail fungus, gingivitis? Is getting old getting you down? Consult with one of our euthanasia experts, before you rack up $$$s in health costs.

****Public Service Announcement from Health Canada Accounting and Profitability Board - We're looking out for the health of our bottom line, not yours!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 02, 2023 03:21 PM (fs1hN)

127 82 The final time I quit smoking I cheated. I got so sick with the flu I could hardly breathe.

That's how my mother did it in the '90s. Got so sick with the flu she was bedridden for a couple of weeks. Never smoked since.

Posted by: Directrix Gazer at June 02, 2023 03:21 PM (dAKhf)

128 Yes. I'm completely whipped. Beta male all the way.

Probably why I think Triangle is better than Ghost Ship.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:20 PM (LvTSG)

You just love the example of parenting.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 02, 2023 03:21 PM (zZu0s)

129 101 I smoked for 40 years and tried a number of times to quit, but never had any luck until I took Chantix. After 3 days, I didn't want a cigarette, but I continued for another week just out of habit. Totally painless, no willpower involved. That's how things should be.
Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 03:15 PM (VP9ao)
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That worked for me too.

Posted by: Puddinhead at June 02, 2023 03:21 PM (NsE9F)

130 Same, Bulgaroctonus!

The anti smoking scolds are particularly hard to take given the lenience and promotion of weed.
Sorry, you’re opinion is sh#t if you do that.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2023 03:22 PM (mo/0F)

131 I thpught there were documented stimulant *and* depressant effects to nicotine which is what makes it so appealing. I'm relying on second hand testimony from a medical professional though.

Posted by: ... at June 02, 2023 03:22 PM (wkk9P)

132 Every living person in the last half century knew and knows that cigarette smoking is dangerous to your health. Coffin Nails isn't a recent nick name.

You'd be amazed. I once had a guy explain to me that it was the additives that were harmful; nictotine, being natural, could not be harmful, he said, puffing away. Seemed quite sincere. I thought about arguing, but concluded that as a person who is quick to anger I was not equipped to politely address this level of stupid.

And while I think people appreciate that it's unhealthy, I don't think people, largely being borderline innumerate, really have a keen grasp of the level of risk involved. Committed smokers will happily tell you all about some two-pack-a-day relative who lived into his 90s, almost like they just don't get how statistics work.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 02, 2023 03:22 PM (ppBhU)

133 I hear extreme opposite things about Chantix. It's either a godsend miracle drug or it's hell in pill form. Very little inbetween.

Posted by: These things can be a crapshoot at June 02, 2023 03:22 PM (fiChp)

134 Little-known fact about pipe smoking: In the famous 1964 Surgeon General's report, hidden in the stats is the detail that pipe smokers tended to live longer, not only longer than cigarette smokers (no surprise), but longer than non-smokers. Probably an effect of the more relaxed personality types who take up the pipe. Not much research has been done on pipe smokers since then, but it's an intriguing note.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 02, 2023 03:22 PM (J2vNu)

135 Did you have screwed up dreams?
Posted by: polynikes at June 02, 2023 03:16 PM (UpUEm)

Not any more screwed up than I normally have.

Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 03:22 PM (VP9ao)

136 where can I get that nasty stomach virus?
Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:21 PM (KRtlO)

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Heh, no shit.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 02, 2023 03:22 PM (DRSnL)

137 I smoked for 40 years and tried a number of times to quit, but never had any luck until I took Chantix. After 3 days, I didn't want a cigarette, but I continued for another week just out of habit. Totally painless, no willpower involved. That's how things should be.
Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 03:15 PM (VP9ao)

Ray Liotta quit smoking with Chantix and now he's dead.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:22 PM (Zz0t1)

138 Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:12 PM (eGTCV)

Well, Pierre Poliievre doesn't seem t be too bad a job of that as far as politicians go.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2023 03:23 PM (Keyt1)

139 I hahahahave a gggggood brain.

Posted by: Simple Jack at June 02, 2023 03:23 PM (8PcHt)

140 >>>115 There is no way vaping isn't bad for you.

it's not good for you, definitely, but it's much, much, much less hazardous than smoking.

Nicotine isn't a carcinogen. Tar is. Nicotine is the thing that hooks you, but it's tar that causes most of the bad health risks.

Nicotine does stress the body so it has moderate level risks associated with stress and high blood pressure. But it's not much different than caffeine.

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:23 PM (KRtlO)

141 Yes. I'm completely whipped. Beta male all the way.

Probably why I think Triangle is better than Ghost Ship.
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By 'Triangle' you are referring to a large hairy pussy, rite?

Posted by: Puddinhead at June 02, 2023 03:23 PM (NsE9F)

142 I am all for people not smoking, and I don't have a problem with warnings labels but... this is stupid and pointless.

I mean, putting aside the increased cancer potential in burning that ink, smokers do not care.

You could make the packages black with a huge skull on them called CANCER STICKS and put THIS WILL KILL YOU on every cigarette and smokers will puff away, ignoring it. The labels do not change minds, no smoker is gonna look at them and go "wait... these are bad for you??" then quit. They know.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2023 03:23 PM (0hOvj)

143 Man is a social animal. Even the anti-social ones are still kind of social.

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I assume this could be a horde tagline, yours truly included.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist wand Your AI Interpreter at June 02, 2023 03:23 PM (7ssgH)

144 115 I would argue vaping can't be as bad as smoking

Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2023 03:23 PM (xhxe8)

145 117 Joe Biden must get a lot of exercise as he's obviously a healthy and vigorous 80!
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Getting up off the floor after falling is good exercise. I do it all the time. No joke!

Posted by: Joe from Scranton at June 02, 2023 03:23 PM (fs1hN)

146 I've been off for three years, and shit like that is worrisome. I started when I was sixteen. If they were doing this kind of creepshow propaganda back then, I'd have probably started at twelve and still be huffing them down.

Young YD: "Well, apparently, not smoking turns you into a batshit crazy church lady who writes on everyone's fuckin' smokes... I'm gonna need a carton of these things on hand every day from now til the cancer ward kicks me out for smoking."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 02, 2023 03:24 PM (oINRc)

147 I've lost around 44 pounds in the 9 months. I cut out almost all sugars, reduced my portion sizes, reduced my card intake and got a nasty stomach virus that really helped.

I can see where eating cards would cause stomach issues, especially if the cards are plasic.

Tho, I did see Card Intake open for Ugly Mustard at Trees in '88.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:24 PM (Zz0t1)

148 Gainzzz ain't my thing. See y'all later this evening. Thanks for all ya do, ace.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 02, 2023 03:24 PM (Xrfse)

149 never figured the allure of smoking

already looked cool

Posted by: REDACTED at June 02, 2023 03:24 PM (us2H3)

150 Posted by: Dr Spank at June 02, 2023 03:19 PM (FVkoT)

That's great except the stomach virus. On these gainzzz threads I never hear anyone talk about trying GoLo. You would think one of you morons would have tried it.

Posted by: polynikes at June 02, 2023 03:24 PM (UpUEm)

151 I've also read that since WWII, the tobacco companies have loaded a lot of extra chemicals into their ciggies, to help keep them from going stale and to burn steadily -- and possibly to make them more addictive, who knows. Pipe tobacco is not supposed to have those kinds of added chemicals.

Lest anybody think I'm trying to recruit pipe smokers: not at all. It's just a fun topic for me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 02, 2023 03:24 PM (J2vNu)

152 where can I get that nasty stomach virus?

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:21 PM (KRtlO)

I'll send you a recipe for chicken tartare...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2023 03:24 PM (ZCCyW)

153 Is running cigarettes still a thing?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 02, 2023 03:19 PM (MoZTd)

Ask Eric Garner. The dude I would have held a sign for in the street - but not burned a Target down for. Because Target didn't choke Eric Garner to death. A NYC cop did.

Posted by: Fool Me Once at June 02, 2023 03:24 PM (sQh5T)

154 131 I thpught there were documented stimulant *and* depressant effects to nicotine which is what makes it so appealing. I'm relying on second hand testimony from a medical professional though.
Posted by: ... at June 02, 2023 03:22 PM (wkk9P)

IIRC, there was an article I read where smokers unconsciously take different draws depending on whether they want to perk up and are agitated (short, rapid puffs) or want to relax (long draws, held in the lungs a bit.)

I was unconvinced on the subconscious part of it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 02, 2023 03:25 PM (zZu0s)

155 Nicotine isn't a carcinogen. Tar is. Nicotine is the thing that hooks you, but it's tar that causes most of the bad health risks.

Nicotine is bad for you (its literally a poison) but not usually carcinogenic. The burning paper doesn't do you any favors, either. Like all those anti-tobacco people puffing on a reefer, dude. Those are even worse for you.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2023 03:25 PM (0hOvj)

156 Not much research has been done on pipe smokers since then

I did a lot of research on pole smokers in the '80s.

Posted by: "Dr." Fauci at June 02, 2023 03:25 PM (ivvNA)

157 Didn't work for my dad.
Posted by: ... at June 02, 2023 03:18 PM (wkk9P)

That's a shame, really. They've come such a long way now with immunotherapy and other chemo drugs that you can still live many years. That won't happen if you don't quit.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at June 02, 2023 03:25 PM (wagHN)

158 You could make the packages black with a huge skull on them called CANCER STICKS and put THIS WILL KILL YOU on every cigarette and smokers will puff away, ignoring it. The labels do not change minds, no smoker is gonna look at them and go "wait... these are bad for you??" then quit. They know.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2023 03:23 PM (0hOvj)

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Exactly. The biggest deterrent (for me) is how much they cost.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 02, 2023 03:25 PM (DRSnL)

159 GAINZ are going strong.

Mountain Bike Season. Love this time of year.

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2023 03:25 PM (7NAVD)

160 Some hooka bars have opened up in my city and apparently the nicotine consumed in much more than cigarettes, but you have no sense of it without the smoke, etc. Tried hooka when I was in the ME for work and yeah, nothing like smoking.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2023 03:25 PM (mo/0F)

161 Gainzzz, did The Murph this past Memorial Day. Fifth year of completing it in full kit. I'll keep doing it, until I can't. I can't stop exercising, part of my DNA from when I blew out my knee almost 30 years ago. Exercise became my drug of choice.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at June 02, 2023 03:26 PM (6i+PN)

162 Poor eating habits can be as bad for your health as smoking. Seems like half the country has the diebetus.

But instead of having a national nagging campaign against binging on Ding Dongs, Pork Rinds and Ho Hos we get Lizzo telling us fat is healthy.

Some unhealthy things are the devil and some are "celebrated".

Posted by: JackStraw at June 02, 2023 03:26 PM (ZLI7S)

163 I think having my dad smoke from time he was a teenager to when I was then stopped cold due to a industrial accident is why it doesn't bother me. My grandfather ( dad's father) did die when he was a kid from lung cancer so I determined never to start. My dad is still around and in mid 80s.

Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2023 03:26 PM (xhxe8)

164 And Pierre Poilievre has a pretty wife:

https://tinyurl.com/34kfsc3r

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2023 03:26 PM (Keyt1)

165 >>where can I get that nasty stomach virus?

Lick any Gas Pump Handle.

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2023 03:26 PM (7NAVD)

166 One of my favorite stores in the old mall in town was the tobacconist. It smelled SO GOOD in there. I never was tempted to smoke any of it but I have considered a potpourri at times.

Pipes just look dignified and mature, they look good on a man. Not great for you, but they do look better than a cigar or a cigarette.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2023 03:26 PM (0hOvj)

167 >>>Exactly. The biggest deterrent (for me) is how much they cost.

oh right, I forgot that benefit! That's a big one!

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:26 PM (KRtlO)

168 Some hooka bars have opened up in my city and apparently the nicotine consumed in much more than cigarettes, but you have no sense of it without the smoke, etc. Tried hooka when I was in the ME for work and yeah, nothing like smoking.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2023 03:25 PM (mo/0F)

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Wow, I thought hookah bars faded away like 10 years ago.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 02, 2023 03:27 PM (DRSnL)

169 Dog yoga is awesome.

Posted by: wth at June 02, 2023 03:27 PM (v0R5T)

170 I mentioned mask wearing being onerous and restricting breathing to a friend of mine and she went instantly from 0 to insane telling me it's all bullshit and masks don't block anything except The Germs.

Otherwise never talks about politics. It was weird. She's a relatively new friend. It was weird. Leftism makes you into a retard.

Posted by: ... at June 02, 2023 03:27 PM (N9dZ3)

171 I understand cigarettes became truly addictive when sugar cured tobacco was developed. The process made it easier to inhale smoke.

Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:27 PM (eGTCV)

172 Never smoked cigarettes but always had cigars camping and fishing to keep the mosquitoes at bay. I did "smoke" a pipe during my surveyor years. I would twisted the lighted bowls upside down and warm my fingers before putting them back on the theologies to turn angles.

Posted by: Beartooth at June 02, 2023 03:27 PM (EOPKV)

173 Canada: We want you to be perfectly healthy and not burden the healthcare system right up until the moment you decide to kill yourself because you're feeling a little down this week.

Posted by: PabloD at June 02, 2023 03:27 PM (lKugg)

174 A man with a cigarette is never alone.

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2023 03:28 PM (7NAVD)

175 I found when I quit smoking I could afford more booze.

Posted by: Simple Jack at June 02, 2023 03:28 PM (8PcHt)

176 @TheBabylonBee 7h
Damning Leak Reveals Matt Walsh Knew What A Woman Was This Whole Time

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 02, 2023 03:28 PM (jzzG8)

177 Cigarette warning… printed with carcinogenic ink… SCIENCE !!!!11!11!

Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:28 PM (PCK5/)

178 "Cigarettes cause Leukemia"

This is disinformation. The exact cause of leukemia is unknown. Risk factors are radiation exposure, previous cancer treatment and being over the age of 65.

Other research speculates an undetermined combination of genetic and environmental factors.

Leukemia develops when the DNA in blood cells called leukocytes mutates or changes. Have they put this label on the mRNA variety of C19 vaxx?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 02, 2023 03:28 PM (YXHzG)

179
Well, thank goodness cigarette smoking is on the decline as people turn to inhaling healthy pot.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 02, 2023 03:28 PM (MoZTd)

180 88 >>>Another motivator to quit smoking? Get lung cancer. That'll do it. Of course it's too late then.

If you want to see the most pissed off people in the world, find the ones that get lung cancer that never smoked. One of my engineers wife was diagnosed with it and she never smoked or went near anyone who did. She wanted to sue the school where she work because there might have been asbestos there at one time.

Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 03:28 PM (VP9ao)

181 it aint hard, guys

don't smoke

and burn more calories than you take in

I don't know all the answers but I know some of them

Posted by: REDACTED at June 02, 2023 03:28 PM (us2H3)

182 149 never figured the allure of smoking

already looked cool
Posted by: REDACTED at June 02, 2023 03:24 PM (us2H3)

For me, it was not about cool, it hit right at a nexus of personality traits. I am somewhat high strung. I love stress. I form habits easily (probably ocd.) I always, even as a kid, loved the smell of burning tobacco (odd, I know.)

So, smoking hit a LOT of factors all in one package. It is why I never, ever drank regularly or touched harder drugs- from the example of how easily I got hooked smoking, I knew there was nothing but bad to be found there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 02, 2023 03:28 PM (zZu0s)

183 170 I mentioned mask wearing being onerous and restricting breathing to a friend of mine and she went instantly from 0 to insane telling me it's all bullshit and masks don't block anything except The Germs.

Otherwise never talks about politics. It was weird. She's a relatively new friend. It was weird. Leftism makes you into a retard.
Posted by: ... at June 02, 2023 03:27 PM (N9dZ3)

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Covid hysteria is a cult. It actively suppresses rational thinking on purpose. To question spoken truths is to be morally wrong and evil.

They need deprogrammers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:28 PM (LvTSG)

184 Mountain Bike Season. Love this time of year.

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2023 03:25 PM (7NAVD)

That's honestly cool. I was just sitting here thinking, all the yard work is done - I wish there was somewhere just to ride my bike and put a couple beers in the pouch. But I live on a State Road. That's no bueno.

Posted by: Fool Me Once at June 02, 2023 03:28 PM (sQh5T)

185 Remember when they started with the “sitting is as bad as smoking” scare? Kinda stopped with Covid.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2023 03:29 PM (mo/0F)

186 What is the attraction of hookah bars?

Posted by: mr tmz at June 02, 2023 03:29 PM (rJ48h)

187 The late Dick Trickle lighting one up in his stock car during a yellow flag.
https://youtu.be/_9fB1IcTD48

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 02, 2023 03:29 PM (xPl2J)

188 Smokes used to be what, $1.50 from a vending machine, and now they're up to 12-15 bucks a pack depending on what state you're in. Starting to get into hard drugs territory at those prices.

Posted by: A very expensive habit indeed at June 02, 2023 03:29 PM (fiChp)

189 Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at June 02, 2023 03:25 PM (wagHN)

They gave him six months to live in 1990 and he made it six months to the day.

Posted by: ... at June 02, 2023 03:29 PM (vsLbG)

190 My brother died of lung cancer. I only learned at his funeral that he didn't start smoking until he was 28, which surprised me.

Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:29 PM (eGTCV)

191 Poor eating habits can be as bad for your health as smoking. Seems like half the country has the diebetus.

Yeah, absolutely, and that's why I am opposed to tobacco restrictions except for kids. Because eventually the health nazis will notice that and start restricting diets. England already steals kids away from parents if they think the child is too fat.

I saw an article in a British newspaper. A couple of gigantically fat dudes, like beachballs went and got a dog out of the pound. They raised it a year or so then took it back because, get this, the dog ate too much and they couldn't afford it.

Hey lardo, maybe avoid buying a cake for lunch and you might be able to afford to feed the dog.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2023 03:30 PM (0hOvj)

192 Populist favorite Trump banned shipping e-juice because, he could.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 02, 2023 03:30 PM (to8pj)

193 Get outside and exercise. Go hike a trail. It will really help clear out the brain fog.

Posted by: Bert G at June 02, 2023 03:30 PM (VARTN)

194 Smoked 3 packs a day of the little unfiltered Camels for 35 years. I finally quit after a heart attack. Took damned near 2 years to get quit all the way. Haven't smoked since. Started a workout program, went to a local park and walked their 2-mile oval to see if I could do it fast enough to get back to the start point before my Pepsi in the car cooled off. All about the motivatin', y' know. Been quit now since 1992. Checked the price of cigarettes about a week ago - one pack of my old brand is now $8.95. I couldn't afford to smoke now, 'cos I was goin' thru 3 cartons/week ...

Posted by: Dr_No at June 02, 2023 03:30 PM (mu5GU)

195 >>That's honestly cool. I was just sitting here thinking, all the yard work is done - I wish there was somewhere just to ride my bike and put a couple beers in the pouch. But I live on a State Road.

Trailforks dot com.

Awesome site/App

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2023 03:30 PM (7NAVD)

196 GAINZ are going strong.

Mountain Bike Season. Love this time of year.
Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2023 03:25 PM (7NAVD)

Any more Hot Twins?

Posted by: spindrift at June 02, 2023 03:30 PM (ivvNA)

197 "Cigarettes damage your organs"

So does too much sugar, calories, alcohol, beatings, drugs, gun-shots, mRNA Vaxxines, overturned chemical railcars that are set on fire, falls and a myriad of other maladies and external forces

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 02, 2023 03:30 PM (YXHzG)

198 Grandmother smoked unfiltered Kools until she was 80… started smoking at 15… Died at 96. Point being, I guess, that everyone is different.

Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:30 PM (PCK5/)

199 Probably why I think Triangle is better than Ghost Ship.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:20 PM

Probably why I think Covenant is better than Prometheus.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe TJM at June 02, 2023 03:31 PM (a3Q+t)

200 =====

Wow, I thought hookah bars faded away like 10 years ago.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 02, 2023 03:27 PM (DRSnL)

We've got one not far from us. Called 'The Hizzy.'

Not sure what that means, but there it is.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:31 PM (Zz0t1)

201 Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 02, 2023 03:28 PM (jzzG

That is hilarious.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2023 03:31 PM (Keyt1)

202 I didn't propose to my better half until she quit smoking.
She saw a bumper sticker (in the '70s) that said "Kissing a person that smokes is like licking an ashtray" and she figured it out.
Healthcare people always ask:
Do you or have you ever smoked.
A: Yes, I stopped in 1973...
They don't mark 'smokes' on their records.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 02, 2023 03:31 PM (JUfCX)

203 where can I get that nasty stomach virus?
Posted by: ace

you could always eat a tapeworm

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 02, 2023 03:31 PM (W2Pud)

204
So: Do you have any GAINZZZ you want to inspire us with?

The best time to begin an exercise program is the exact best time to plant a tree... 20 years ago. My wife and I have always been health and fitness 'nuts' and no one believes after seeing us that we both did 50 years in the workplace and are now retired.

Something, something about Telomeres.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 02, 2023 03:31 PM (enJYY)

205 Want to encourage smokers to quit? Make tobacco illegal and throw users in prison.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 02, 2023 03:31 PM (KAi1n)

206 I smoked for 40 years. As for quitting, Chantix did the trick for me.
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A French stripper helped you quit?

That was really nice of her.

A true "hooker with a heart of gold" story.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 02, 2023 03:32 PM (Vwz3I)

207 I wish there was somewhere just to ride my bike and put a couple beers in the pouch. But I live on a State Road. That's no bueno.
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Do you have a riding mower?

Posted by: Puddinhead at June 02, 2023 03:32 PM (NsE9F)

208 You don't need stomach flu to lose weight. Ozempic is all the rage. I only eat about half of what I used to and I've even lost my desire for super-rich sauces on pasta. Red wine consumption is down too.

Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 03:32 PM (VP9ao)

209 >>Any more Hot Twins?

I have been riding trail for 30 years and that happened exactly once.

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2023 03:32 PM (7NAVD)

210 If you want to see the most pissed off people in the world, find the ones that get lung cancer that never smoked.

My aunt died of lung cancer, she never smoked. But she did work in a lawyer's office full of OTHER people's smoke for 40 years. Whether that contributed or not, who knows. But it probably didn't help.

Thing is, everybody is gonna die of something. Sometimes it happens much earlier than seems right, but we all are headed the same place.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2023 03:32 PM (0hOvj)

211 Remember when they started with the “sitting is as bad as smoking” scare? Kinda stopped with Covid.

Sponsored by Stand Up Desks™

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 02, 2023 03:32 PM (YXHzG)

212 I tried smoking weed but it hurt my lungs too much so it was a one-time thing.

Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:32 PM (eGTCV)

213 >>>you could always eat a tapeworm

Do I need a prescription? Can I get it from a Canadian pharmacy?

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2023 03:32 PM (KRtlO)

214 A study finds that exercise is 1.5x as effective in fighting depression than drugs.
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I find this depressing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2023 03:32 PM (4Nep/)

215 198 Grandmother smoked unfiltered Kools until she was 80… started smoking at 15… Died at 96. Point being, I guess, that everyone is different.
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Yep. We are all the same until we find out we are not.

Posted by: Puddinhead at June 02, 2023 03:33 PM (NsE9F)

216 198 Grandmother smoked unfiltered Kools until she was 80… started smoking at 15… Died at 96. Point being, I guess, that everyone is different.
Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:30 PM (PCK5/

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And Churchill lived to 90. I mean...have you seen what that man ate for breakfast?

And then you hear stories about health nuts dropping dead of heart attacks at 40.

Meh. I'm gonna take care of myself to avoid obviously avoidable things, but so much is simply out of our hands.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:33 PM (LvTSG)

217 Exercise can also reduce or reverse depression.

Where's the money in that?

Posted by: Pfizer et at at June 02, 2023 03:33 PM (xttsV)

218 I first realized I had a bad problem when I fired up the chained up 300six F100 one wheel drive to drive to the Indian store in a blizzard because I was down to my last two Marlboros.

Posted by: torabora at June 02, 2023 03:33 PM (T4GDJ)

219 Used to smoke. Loved it for the most part… still can detect someone smoking when they drive by in a car…

Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:33 PM (PCK5/)

220 I never got the appeal of smoking, either tobacco or weed. At least with alcohol (my vice of choice), you can argue that drinking — the ingesting of liquid through the mouth — is a normal and necessary action. But there’s nothing normal about inhaling hot chemicals into your lungs. It just doesn’t make sense to me how that ever got started.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 02, 2023 03:34 PM (f800v)

221 BTW, I went hashing last night and ended up taking the looong trail. 5 miles up and down a lot of hills. A lot of it was walking, but still.... That beer (Lagunitas IPA) was tasty AF at the end. Very, verry, verrry sore all night but it was worth it. OTOH, I'm down to 170# now. Changing my workout regimen from lifting 6 days a week and one day of aerobic to lifting 4 days and 3 days aerobic.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 02, 2023 03:34 PM (KAi1n)

222 Want to encourage smokers to quit? Make tobacco illegal and throw users in prison.

Randomly lace cigarettes with lethal levels of Fentanyl.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 02, 2023 03:34 PM (YXHzG)

223 So, smoking hit a LOT of factors all in one package. It is why I never, ever drank regularly or touched harder drugs- from the example of how easily I got hooked smoking, I knew there was nothing but bad to be found there.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 02, 2023 03:28 PM (zZu0s)

I'm living proof of your folly

Posted by: REDACTED at June 02, 2023 03:34 PM (us2H3)

224 217 Exercise can also reduce or reverse depression.

Where's the money in that?
Posted by: Pfizer et at at June 02, 2023 03:33 PM (xttsV)

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"We need a new machine that AWFLs will buy and hang clothes on!"
-Peloton

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:34 PM (LvTSG)

225 A man with a cigarette is never alone.
Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2023 03:28 PM (7NAVD)

Was camping down in Ennis outside of the Texas Motorplex for the NHRA Fall Nationals one year with my brother and my wife's cousin.

Dude walked up and asked the cousin if he could bum a smoke. Cousin said "I'll tell you what. I'll give you 2 if you never f*ckin' bother me again...."

Guy says "Damn......Ok." Takes his 2 smokes and wanders off. We never saw him again.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:34 PM (Zz0t1)

226 Poor eating habits can be as bad for your health as smoking. Seems like half the country has the diebetus.

I'm currently going down the seed oil rabbit hole (polyunsaturates, all 'vegetable' oils). Seems to be a link, but I'll spend a year seeing if I can reverse the effects.

Posted by: t-bird at June 02, 2023 03:34 PM (bt2PN)

227 So does too much sugar, calories, alcohol, beatings, drugs, gun-shots, mRNA Vaxxines, overturned chemical railcars that are set on fire, falls and a myriad of other maladies and external forces

All that is true, but like sugar, and alcohol, smoking is super easy to avoid and cut out. The other stuff is largely out of your control.

Its like complaining that you can't run as fast because your shoelaces are tied together, then listing all the other things that might also make you run slower. Yeah, but how about those shoelaces first, huh?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2023 03:34 PM (0hOvj)

228 OK, now how about one for quitting booze?

Posted by: XTC at June 02, 2023 03:35 PM (sm6Pk)

229 =========

"We need a new machine that AWFLs will buy and hang clothes on!"
-Peloton
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:34 PM (LvTSG)

"Really? 92%"

-- -- Annoying Broad from the Commercial

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:35 PM (Zz0t1)

230 How to know if something is addictive:

A group of people voluntarily standing around, shivering their asses off as they satisfy their nic fits during a balmy 4-degree Upstate NY winter evening.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 02, 2023 03:35 PM (KbCG3)

231 Another motivator to quit smoking? Get lung cancer. That'll do it. Of course it's too late then.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at June 02, 2023 03:15 PM (wagHN)

Found mine 7 years after I quit.

Posted by: javems at June 02, 2023 03:35 PM (AmoqO)

232 Second hand smoke. Delirious or not?

Posted by: JmT at June 02, 2023 03:35 PM (4upfP)

233 Sweden is almost a smoke free country as less than 5% of citizens smoke.
.......

Smokers. We're a dying breed.

Posted by: wth at June 02, 2023 03:35 PM (v0R5T)

234
Meh. I'm gonna take care of myself to avoid obviously avoidable things, but so much is simply out of our hands.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:33 PM (LvTSG)

_______

O God, who has doomed all men to die, but has concealed from all the hour of their death, grant that I may pass my days in the practice of holiness and justice, and that I may deserve to quit this world in the peace of a good conscience, and in the embraces of Your love.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 02, 2023 03:35 PM (MoZTd)

235 One of my friends smoked too much free weed that he blew a hole in his lung and the hospital saved him.

Posted by: torabora at June 02, 2023 03:35 PM (T4GDJ)

236 I tried smoking weed but it hurt my lungs too much so it was a one-time thing.

Then for the love of all that's holy, don't try today's shit. That stuff is potent. Back in the day, we'd pass a pinner while drinking beer. Today's shit is not that day's shit.

Took one hit, a year ago, and immediately went into vapor lock. My Gawd, that stuff was strong. No thank you. I don't see how folks find that enjoyable.

Posted by: Fool Me Once at June 02, 2023 03:35 PM (sQh5T)

237 229 "Really? 92%"

-- -- Annoying Broad from the Commercial
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:35 PM (Zz0t1)

========

Olivia Amato.

I mean...I don't know who that is.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:35 PM (LvTSG)

238 Red wine consumption is down too.
Posted by: jwest

This is a sin against all that is right in the world.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 02, 2023 03:35 PM (JUfCX)

239 I do believe you have no idea what reaction you might have to something like smoking, some get cancer and only doing it for a few years, others smoke decades and most of life and get nothing. It's bad luck of the life draw.
Same with alcohol.

Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2023 03:36 PM (xhxe8)

240 Populist favorite Trump banned shipping e-juice because, he could.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 02, 2023 03:30 PM (to8pj)

Big deal. Brew your own from antifreeze and Raid.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 02, 2023 03:36 PM (r+5Gi)

241 My parents were smokers. WW2 generation. Dad quit in 67 when the doctor told him he'd be dead in six months if he didn't, he still had two heart surgeries ahead of him. Blood thinning medication (rat poison) and huge dietary restriction. "Giving up salt was worse than giving up smoking"

If at age 9 you see an X-ray of dads lungs and it looks like a burned forest it's a deterrent.

Mom kept going until 73 and her first heart attack.

Posted by: JEM at June 02, 2023 03:36 PM (8erNz)

242 Want to encourage smokers to quit? Make tobacco illegal and throw users in prison.

Randomly lace cigarettes with lethal levels of Fentanyl.

Heard that's already happening with pre-rolled joints. I guess dealers are just looking out for their customer's health?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at June 02, 2023 03:36 PM (Bd6X8)

243 "Tobacco Smoke Harms Children"

Then be an adult and take away the smokes from your kid.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 02, 2023 03:36 PM (YXHzG)

244 I did a ruck march on Memorial Day, just like last year, except for a 10% increase in hip soreness this year. Father Time can eat a bag of dicks.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 02, 2023 03:36 PM (tRd71)

245 Meh. I'm gonna take care of myself to avoid obviously avoidable things, but so much is simply out of our hands.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:33 PM (LvTSG)

True. When the Big Guy wants you, times up. Make the present count.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at June 02, 2023 03:36 PM (6i+PN)

246 Quitting booze?? Here at the HQ??? Hah.

Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:36 PM (PCK5/)

247 Mountain Bike Season. Love this time of year.

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2023 03:25 PM (7NAVD)

Main reason I miss living in the Hudson Valley. I used to go to Minnewaska State Park almost every weekend in the summer to Mountain Bike .

Posted by: polynikes at June 02, 2023 03:36 PM (MNhXM)

248 Meh. I'm gonna take care of myself to avoid obviously avoidable things, but so much is simply out of our hands.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:33 PM (LvTSG)

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Truth. How's your fast going?

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 02, 2023 03:36 PM (DRSnL)

249 Grandmother smoked unfiltered Kools until she was 80… started smoking at 15… Died at 96. Point being, I guess, that everyone is different.
Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:30 PM (PCK5/)

Kools. She black?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:36 PM (Zz0t1)

250 The same people who fought tooth and nail to stop everyone from the filthy, unhealthy habit of smoking cigarettes are the ones who were dogged in their determination to show the health benefits -- without reservation -- of legalizing weed.

Posted by: red speck at June 02, 2023 03:37 PM (Ny/Va)

251 I got a huge mental and emotional GAINZZ over the last weekend when both my boys were in town.

We went on a long walk on the beach together. We walked and I listened and they talked. I am still happy.

Also, I figured out how to block someone who has insisted on trying to communicate with me. I blocked his cell number, then a couple different emails and then finally managed to block so I won't even get his spammed messages. It's liberating, but frustrating. SO, GAINZZZ

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 02, 2023 03:37 PM (W2Pud)

252 >>Took one hit, a year ago, and immediately went into vapor lock. My Gawd, that stuff was strong. No thank you. I don't see how folks find that enjoyable.

Gotta crawl before you walk.

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2023 03:37 PM (7NAVD)

253 During the Calamity Fox Town Hall, Trump refused to admit the clot shots are ~~damaging~~ killing people when asked about the vax.

This is what happens when you have a reactionary germaphobe in charge. He really pissed me off when he banned e-juice.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 02, 2023 03:38 PM (to8pj)

254 My oldest brother quit smoking by turning to vape, then reducing the nicotine amount over time until he was basically just getting steam. He was irritable (well as irritable as he gets) for a while but he hasn't gone back.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2023 03:38 PM (0hOvj)

255 You don't need stomach flu to lose weight. Ozempic is all the rage. I only eat about half of what I used to and I've even lost my desire for super-rich sauces on pasta. Red wine consumption is down too.
Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 03:32 PM (VP9ao)

What happens if you stop taking it?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 02, 2023 03:38 PM (xhaym)

256 Life is a guarantee of death. A sexually transmitted terminal condition.

Posted by: So you might as well have a good time at June 02, 2023 03:39 PM (fiChp)

257 248 Meh. I'm gonna take care of myself to avoid obviously avoidable things, but so much is simply out of our hands.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:33 PM (LvTSG)

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Truth. How's your fast going?
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 02, 2023 03:36 PM (DRSnL)

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I'M HUNGRYYY!!!!!

I mean, it's pretty good, though tonight's gonna be terrible on it. Dolley and I are going to Boxcar Betty's for some fried chicken, and then we're gonna be doing a chocolate/wine pairing with my mother and younger brother (wanna feel old? he just turned 21) when we get back home.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:39 PM (LvTSG)

258 So Garrett takes his Vespa on mountain trails?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 02, 2023 03:39 PM (f800v)

259 I mean, just reading that headline makes me want a cigarette.

There is also the faint whiff of second hand in this breakroom from the smoke deck outside.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

It's been 10 years since I quit. I still enjoy a sniff of smoke every now and then.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2023 03:39 PM (GIBR7)

260 249 Grandmother smoked unfiltered Kools until she was 80… started smoking at 15… Died at 96. Point being, I guess, that everyone is different.
Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:30 PM (PCK5/)

Kools. She black?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:36 PM (Zz0t1)

Hillbilly, funnily enough… HER Mom smoked a cob pipe, and her Aunt dipped snuff…

Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:39 PM (PCK5/)

261 >>>The Easy Way to Quit Smoking notes that if you didn't smoke, you wouldn't have

I'm a once a week or so cigar smoker and none of this means very much to me. I mean can't smoke this week? Then don't. Only miss it a little. Don't have a good cigar I like? Then don't smoke. Ran out of cigars? Got a whole week to score another IF it's convenient. (I actually have enough cigars in the humidor to last several years) cravings? How are those supposed to feel? "A cigar would be nice but I don't have time" passing thought is about as close to that as I get, but as you know an hour spent devoted to smoking is just not feasible most of the time, so a passing thought just passes by.

Perhaps the most addictive form of tobacco is the ability to feed the addiction frequently.

Posted by: mikethemoose at June 02, 2023 03:39 PM (UyECW)

262 >>Main reason I miss living in the Hudson Valley. I used to go to Minnewaska State Park

Haven't been there since 1994 or so...I went out West and just went crazy for the riding out here.

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2023 03:39 PM (7NAVD)

263 Whelp, if dicking around with the pool, cleaning in up and putting in the stairs (no ladder for us fatties) then I got exercise today. Swimming comes next.

And a cigar. But the smoking thing is more of relaxation than a "need" to have one. I sometimes go days without a cigar because it's shitty outside and I'm not motivated to spend an hour or more chilling out in a freezing garage or under a tree in 90F + heat with the humidity at 99%

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 02, 2023 03:40 PM (Q4IgG)

264 Burning your eyebrows when you light a cigarette off an oven burner? I do not miss that, either.

A friend with COPD on O2 blew his beard off.
Looked like a cartoon duck.

Posted by: DaveA at June 02, 2023 03:40 PM (FhXTo)

265 Cigarettes were my only friend on those long cold Navy topside watches. Us snipes didn't get decent cold weather gear and we had to stand night top side watches in port in Norfolk.

Posted by: torabora at June 02, 2023 03:40 PM (T4GDJ)

266
Tar from cigarettes is fugly nitrogen heterocycles and polyaromatic hydrocarbon crap. As is the tar from pot.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 02, 2023 03:40 PM (MoZTd)

267
Hillbilly, funnily enough… HER Mom smoked a cob pipe, and her Aunt dipped snuff…
Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:39 PM (PCK5/)

That's awesome, actually.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:40 PM (Zz0t1)

268 Walking a dog twice a day also helps.

Also dogs are awesome.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 02, 2023 03:40 PM (xcxpd)

269 I've never been bothered by the smell of smoke but I can't say I would marry a smoker.

Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:40 PM (eGTCV)

270 Ah, fuck it. I'm gonna' tuck two beers and a pistol into the pouches on my bike and ride around a bit. What could possibly go wrong ?

Garrett, you've inspired me. And maybe killed me. Whatever. At least it will be outside.

Posted by: Fool Me Once at June 02, 2023 03:41 PM (sQh5T)

271 265 Cigarettes were my only friend on those long cold Navy topside watches. Us snipes didn't get decent cold weather gear and we had to stand night top side watches in port in Norfolk.
Posted by: torabora at June 02, 2023 03:40 PM (T4GDJ)

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You burned your only friend alive over and over again?

How horrifying.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:41 PM (LvTSG)

272 The smell of a freshly lit cigarette is great.

The smell of an ashtray is not.

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2023 03:41 PM (7NAVD)

273
Also dogs are awesome.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 02, 2023 03:40 PM (xcxpd)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:41 PM (Zz0t1)

274 208 You don't need stomach flu to lose weight. Ozempic is all the rage. I only eat about half of what I used to and I've even lost my desire for super-rich sauces on pasta. Red wine consumption is down too.
Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 03:32 PM (VP9ao)

Is that the stuff that makes you sick and makes you vomit if you eat more than two bites?

Because I knew someone who was taking a medication that does that, and... it was rather unpleasant to be around him sometimes.

Posted by: XTC at June 02, 2023 03:41 PM (sm6Pk)

275 You're dethpicable!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at June 02, 2023 03:41 PM (Vwz3I)

276 So does too much sugar, calories, alcohol, beatings, drugs, gun-shots, mRNA Vaxxines, overturned chemical railcars that are set on fire, falls and a myriad of other maladies and external forces

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 02, 2023 03:30 PM (YXHzG)

All this does is demonstrate your inability to assess relative risk, and which risks are controllable.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2023 03:41 PM (ZCCyW)

277 A man with schizophrenia is also never alone.

Posted by: ... at June 02, 2023 03:41 PM (3sWs2)

278
Also dogs are awesome.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 02, 2023 03:40 PM (xcxpd)

__________

Own 20 and they're a little less awesome.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 02, 2023 03:42 PM (MoZTd)

279 267
Hillbilly, funnily enough… HER Mom smoked a cob pipe, and her Aunt dipped snuff…
Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:39 PM (PCK5/)

That's awesome, actually.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:40 PM (Zz0t1)

My family lives forever, seems like, whatever their lifestyles… okay “ some” hyperbole… but you get my point.

Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:42 PM (PCK5/)

280 I've never been bothered by the smell of smoke but I can't say I would marry a smoker.
Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:40 PM (eGTCV)
........

I would if she were 98 years old and super rich.

Posted by: wth at June 02, 2023 03:42 PM (v0R5T)

281 Got a most bizarre call, seems like I was privy to a call between 2 people but only could make out male voice but wasn't making sense, a female was on other but even harder to make anything out. Then when started to type this got call again and same thing with voices.

Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2023 03:42 PM (xhxe8)

282 "Really? 92%"

-- -- Annoying Broad from the Commercial
Posted by: Sponge
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Pfft

Posted by: The one that hypes smearing lotion on her buttcrack at June 02, 2023 03:43 PM (UKHcf)

283 Cigarettes are a killer. You know that when you're a kid and you start. You know it, and you *feel* it by the time you're 25. Some people choose to do it anyway. Many die from it, and some few don't ever have a serious health problem at all. It's a risk people take. It's a consequence of a free society.

If someone chooses to take that risk, and you write "CIGARETTE SMOKE HARMS CHILDREN" all over their cigarettes? Well, that's a consequence of an unfree society.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 02, 2023 03:43 PM (oINRc)

284 If he can do it:

"Man Who Ate Only McDonald's for 100 Days Completes Challenge — and Drops 58½ Lbs.: 'I Feel Amazing'"

You can do it!

Posted by: Jay in PA at June 02, 2023 03:43 PM (i7Q7S)

285 You can take my corn dog from my cold dead hand!!!

Posted by: polynikes at June 02, 2023 03:43 PM (MNhXM)

286 One of the few vivid memories I have of my grandfather was sitting at their kitchen table, with an open can of Bugle Boy tobacco and grandpa's cigarette machine; loading up just the right amount of tobacco at the top, along the paper; then turning the handle to watch it all slip into the mechanism and spit out a foot-long cigarette at the bottom, ready for the chopper to subdivide it into fours. Then we'd pack them neatly into his cigarette case. The smell of the tobacco was something else. One of those scents that triggers the memory like a button on a machine.

Posted by: red speck at June 02, 2023 03:43 PM (Ny/Va)

287 Perhaps the most addictive form of tobacco is the ability to feed the addiction frequently.

It used to be so easy too. People smoked everywhere, at work, at home, in the restaurants, in the plane. There were no real restrictions so you would and could light up everywhere and smoke all day.

Which really sucked for us non-smokers because the smell isn't great but when the air is blue with burnt tobacco its miserable. And the "no smoking section" never really worked, the smoke got everywhere, anyway.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2023 03:43 PM (0hOvj)

288 Recon I'll fire up a stogie!

Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2023 03:43 PM (RG6z4)

289 Got a most bizarre call, seems like I was privy to a call between 2 people but only could make out male voice but wasn't making sense, a female was on other but even harder to make anything out. Then when started to type this got call again and same thing with voices.
Posted by: Skip
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Don't go down in the basement!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2023 03:43 PM (UKHcf)

290 My father's two commandments on his first heart surgery (some things stick even at a young age)

1) I will not go in for surgery until I can't get there on my own

2) I am not going VA.

Posted by: JEM at June 02, 2023 03:44 PM (8erNz)

291 What happens if you stop taking it?
Posted by: Kindltot at June 02, 2023 03:38 PM (xhaym)

You would save a butt load of money. Actually, I think after you take it for good while you reform certain habits, especially portion size. Just last night the wife and I went out for pizza. We used to finish a large, but now we split a 12" and we brought 3 pieces home. At upscale restaurants, I haven't ordered an entree in a long time sticking mainly to appetizers.

Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 03:44 PM (VP9ao)

292 287

Which really sucked for us non-smokers because the smell isn't great but when the air is blue with burnt tobacco its miserable. And the "no smoking section" never really worked, the smoke got everywhere, anyway.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2023 03:43 PM (0hOvj)

Hah! Guy told me once that he smoked in self- defense…

Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:45 PM (PCK5/)

293 Second hand cigarette smoke that blows past outside in a park: KILLS CHILDREN

Second hand smoke from fentanyl on the bus: NOT A PROBLEM

Posted by: King Co Health Dept at June 02, 2023 03:45 PM (W2Pud)

294 263 Whelp, if dicking around with the pool, cleaning in up and putting in the stairs (no ladder for us fatties) then I got exercise today. Swimming comes next.

And a cigar. But the smoking thing is more of relaxation than a "need" to have one. I sometimes go days without a cigar because it's shitty outside and I'm not motivated to spend an hour or more chilling out in a freezing garage or under a tree in 90F + heat with the humidity at 99%

YMMV
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 02, 2023 03:40 PM (Q4IgG)

When my parents come to visit, my father and I will burn a cigar every day that they're here. When they leave, it's usually weeks before I have another. The interest ebbs and flows.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 02, 2023 03:45 PM (KbCG3)

295 I guess racist California is banning menthol cigs.

In my Navy days the black sailors all smoked them. Some would refuse a Marlboro if offered.

Posted by: torabora at June 02, 2023 03:45 PM (T4GDJ)

296
"Man Who Ate Only McDonald's for 100 Days Completes Challenge — and Drops 58½ Lbs.: 'I Feel Amazing'"

You can do it!
Posted by: Jay
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Is that you Jared?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 02, 2023 03:45 PM (WMPkR)

297 I'm gonna' tuck two beers and a pistol into the pouches on my bike and ride around a bit. What could possibly go wrong ?

Well you will get a beer shower when you open them but other than that, seems good.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2023 03:45 PM (0hOvj)

298 Sometimes the taproom I frequent smells strongly of yeast, which I don't like but it doesn't prevent drinking beer.

Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:45 PM (eGTCV)

299 Recon I'll fire up a stogie!
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2023 03:43 PM (RG6z4)

YOU!!???? No way.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:46 PM (Zz0t1)

300 Which really sucked for us non-smokers because the smell isn't great but when the air is blue with burnt tobacco its miserable. And the "no smoking section" never really worked, the smoke got everywhere, anyway.
____

For some reason, the smell of cigarette smoke at the baseball fields is pleasing.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 02, 2023 03:46 PM (fs1hN)

301 >>I'm gonna' tuck two beers and a pistol into the pouches on my bike and ride around a bit. What could possibly go wrong ?

A ride. A couple beers. Some plinking. Sounds fun.

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2023 03:46 PM (7NAVD)

302 Not that it matters, but when I said I smoked for 40 years and that Chantix did it for me, I was not quoting jwest.

Posted by: javems at June 02, 2023 03:46 PM (AmoqO)

303 Nat Pritikin in his landmark book stated

If you follow my book to a t, if you smoke, it will negate everything

Posted by: REDACTED at June 02, 2023 03:47 PM (us2H3)

304 302 Not that it matters, but when I said I smoked for 40 years and that Chantix did it for me, I was not quoting jwest.
Posted by: javems at June 02, 2023 03:46 PM (AmoqO)

And you did not murder anyone???

Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:47 PM (PCK5/)

305 >>>You don't need stomach flu to lose weight. Ozempic is all the rage. I only eat about half of what I used to and I've even lost my desire for super-rich sauces on pasta. Red wine consumption is down too.
Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 03:32 PM (VP9ao)

Ozempic has been a Godsend for me. I'm an alcoholic and use food as a drug. This thing does something to the dopamine response so it's easier to "just say no." Lost about ten pounds in 10 weeks without the previous previous keto-white-knuckle-gripping OMAD type way of eating that was the only other way I could lose weight. And that's not sustainable. We'll see if this is. Or if it's going to give me thyroid cancer. One bad side effect for me has been hair loss. And of course this stuff is expensive as hell and a struggle for me to afford. Other than that, I'm enjoying NOT "needing" a drink and the "food noise" in my head being gone.

Posted by: ravenmother at June 02, 2023 03:47 PM (GKldw)

306 Ace,

Do you mean light it off of the burner on a stovetop? How do you light a cig on an oven?

I'm picturing an Ewok sticking his head in an oven lighting a cig off of the broiler flame.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 02, 2023 03:47 PM (W0ytQ)

307 I tried to be a cigarette smoker in college. I knew it would royally piss off my father, he smoked 3 packs a day..... lit them end to end.

Anyhoo, I just couldn't get the hang of it.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 02, 2023 03:47 PM (W2Pud)

308 Sometimes the taproom I frequent smells strongly of yeast, which I don't like but it doesn't prevent drinking beer.
Posted by: NL
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You know, a good smelly saloon is my favorite place in the world.

Posted by: Paden at June 02, 2023 03:47 PM (WMPkR)

309 A friend with COPD on O2 blew his beard off.
Looked like a cartoon duck.

Posted by: DaveA at June 02, 2023 03:40 PM

Buddy of mine works as an ER charge nurse. Several months ago they had a lady get transported in that had a similar experience. She had COPD and was on O2. And tried lighting up a joint. In a bonfire.

Posted by: Bert G at June 02, 2023 03:48 PM (VARTN)

310
Our watchdog media never asked Obama about how much he smoked.

*cue jokes here*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 02, 2023 03:48 PM (MoZTd)

311 A ride. A couple beers. Some plinking. Sounds fun.

Posted by: garrett at June 02, 2023 03:46 PM (7NAVD)

Maybe you could find one of those cute brown bears and pet him!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 02, 2023 03:48 PM (ZCCyW)

312 https://youtu.be/-CoS7jB6tDA

Kari Lake knows how to wear a dress.

2 minutes or so from Doug In Exile.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 02, 2023 03:48 PM (ufFY8)

313 Many of us can relate to this three-phase spiral into an overall experience of malaise, or rather the COVID Hangover.

How do we recover from this hangover?

Move out of California!

Posted by: InZona at June 02, 2023 03:48 PM (bRRxa)

314 Hi, I'm Troy McClure. You may remember me from such self-help videos as "Smoke Yourself Thin", and "Get Confident, Stupid!"

Posted by: Troy McClure at June 02, 2023 03:48 PM (PiwSw)

315 >>>208 You don't need stomach flu to lose weight. Ozempic is all the rage.

Apparently, Ozempic users are all shitting themselves at night. Also, if you stop taking it, all the weight immediately returns. It's a Big Pharma dream. People'd rather wear diapers and be drugged until death than take a nightly stroll and stop eating garbage.

Posted by: red speck at June 02, 2023 03:48 PM (Ny/Va)

316 I don't mind pipe or most cigar smoke but cigarette smoke is disgusting and brings back very bad memories

Posted by: JEM at June 02, 2023 03:48 PM (8erNz)

317 I mean... ask yourself: would rather live in a society of people who smoke too much, as gross as it is, or a society of powerscolds who browbeat everybody? Which is actually grosser?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (oINRc)

318 The last concert I attended was in an arena. Smoking was banned but there were many spliffs being ignited.

Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (eGTCV)

319 You can take my corn dog from my cold dead hand!!!

I will. You're dead, and someone should enjoy that corn dog. I mean, it's a free corn dog.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (ppBhU)

320 I quit cold turkey. But it took several attempts over years.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (63Dwl)

321 "Is that the stuff (Ozempic) that makes you sick and makes you vomit if you eat more than two bites?

No, it just makes you feel full much quicker than normal. At first you continue to finish meals and order like you did before, which makes you bloated. Then, you start learning to order and eat less. Also, you don't look for snacks between meals like before. The best thing is you don't feel hungry.

Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (VP9ao)

322 Quitting smoking was 10 times harder than quitting booze. I've done both. No drink in the last 35 years and no smoke in the last 15. Am I ever boring now...

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (flINI)

323 Great now Dave Ramsay is getting sued for 150 million over advice he gave about a time share.

If his advice was anything but "stay away, never buy in" it was bad advice, but how can you sue someone for advice??

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (0hOvj)

324 Sometimes the taproom I frequent smells strongly of yeast, which I don't like but it doesn't prevent drinking beer.

Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:45 PM

Classy ladies hanging out in there?

Posted by: Bert G at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (VARTN)

325 I've never been bothered by the smell of smoke but I can't say I would marry a smoker.
Posted by: NL at June 02, 2023 03:40 PM (eGTCV)

Be thankful you weren't around in the 40s.

Posted by: JmT at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (4upfP)

326 317 I mean... ask yourself: would rather live in a society of people who smoke too much, as gross as it is, or a society of powerscolds who browbeat everybody? Which is actually grosser?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (oINRc)

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I'm gonna move to the moon, but I've heard she's a harsh mistress.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (LvTSG)

327 Now, I HAVE seen people smoking through their stomas… THAT is pesistence!!!

Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (PCK5/)

328 Then for the love of all that's holy, don't try today's shit. That stuff is potent. Back in the day, we'd pass a pinner while drinking beer. Today's shit is not that day's shit.

Took one hit, a year ago, and immediately went into vapor lock. My Gawd, that stuff was strong. No thank you. I don't see how folks find that enjoyable.
Posted by: Fool Me Once

Willie Nelson quit smoking three or four years back. His lungs could no longer take it. He now does edibles.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2023 03:50 PM (GIBR7)

329 Lest anybody think I'm trying to recruit pipe smokers:

Don't worry Targey is recruiting/grooming children to be pipe smokers.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at June 02, 2023 03:50 PM (YXHzG)

330 Back when they had smoking sections in restaurants, when the hostess asked ' smoking or non-smoking? ' I'd always replied ' if I chose smoking does that mean I have to smoke? '

I think I may have Schumered that from someone but I took credit for it at the time.

Posted by: polynikes at June 02, 2023 03:50 PM (MNhXM)

331 And you did not murder anyone???
Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:47 PM (PCK5/)

Not anyone you would miss.

Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 03:50 PM (VP9ao)

332 Now, I HAVE seen people smoking through their stomas… THAT is pesistence!!!
Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (PCK5/)

Saw a guy smoke through his blowhole once.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:51 PM (Zz0t1)

333 319 You can take my corn dog from my cold dead hand!!!

I will. You're dead, and someone should enjoy that corn dog. I mean, it's a free corn dog.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (ppBhU)

This man is a true conservationist.

Posted by: Save the corn dogs! at June 02, 2023 03:51 PM (fiChp)

334 >>> 257

==========

I'M HUNGRYYY!!!!!

I mean, it's pretty good, though tonight's gonna be terrible on it. Dolley and I are going to Boxcar Betty's for some fried chicken, and then we're gonna be doing a chocolate/wine pairing with my mother and younger brother (wanna feel old? he just turned 21) when we get back home.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:39 PM (LvTSG)

One of my good friends, along with his then-neighbor, consumed an entire double (?) sized bottle of red wine accompanied by a full batch of my brownies during a movie night a few years ago.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 02, 2023 03:51 PM (llON8)

335 Never been a smoker, nor tempted to, except when I watch "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" or "Die Hard". Brad Pitt and Bruce Willis make smoking look very cool.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 02, 2023 03:51 PM (tRd71)

336 Yeah well, ah. But, you know. Smoking is for fags. And tards.

Posted by: Dr. Lexus at June 02, 2023 03:52 PM (pK5Rz)

337 Little girl was kicking ass, LOL.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 02, 2023 03:52 PM (ufFY8)

338 331 And you did not murder anyone???
Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:47 PM (PCK5/)

Not anyone you would miss.
Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 03:50 PM (VP9ao)

Hah!

Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:52 PM (PCK5/)

339 "15 I'm a little suspicious. If cigarettes are that bad for me, why would the government not hide the fact?
Posted by: t-bird at June 02, 2023 03:05 PM (Sv58p)"

Well, they did for decades until it was useful not to.

I watched enough redneck relatives from one branch of the family basically smoke and drink themselves into bankruptcy repeatedly - never had any interest in picking up the habit. Not to mention that while pipes and cigars have always smelled fine to me, cigarettes smell like burnt ass.

Posted by: somedood at June 02, 2023 03:52 PM (rOh1h)

340 Ozzy Osborn said quitting smoking was harder than quitting heroin.

Posted by: polynikes at June 02, 2023 03:52 PM (MNhXM)

341 334 One of my good friends, along with his then-neighbor, consumed an entire double (?) sized bottle of red wine accompanied by a full batch of my brownies during a movie night a few years ago.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 02, 2023 03:51 PM (llON

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I could do that on my own, probably.

I like food. And booze.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:52 PM (LvTSG)

342 323 Great now Dave Ramsay is getting sued for 150 million over advice he gave about a time share.

If his advice was anything but "stay away, never buy in" it was bad advice, but how can you sue someone for advice??
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (0hOvj)

Eh. He's kind of an asshole so I don't really feel bad. It was bound to happen sooner or later.

Posted by: He's a self-made boomer meme at June 02, 2023 03:52 PM (fiChp)

343 >>> 251 I got a huge mental and emotional GAINZZ over the last weekend when both my boys were in town.

We went on a long walk on the beach together. We walked and I listened and they talked. I am still happy.

Also, I figured out how to block someone who has insisted on trying to communicate with me. I blocked his cell number, then a couple different emails and then finally managed to block so I won't even get his spammed messages. It's liberating, but frustrating. SO, GAINZZZ
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 02, 2023 03:37 PM (W2Pud)

I didn't know woodpeckers could text and email.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 02, 2023 03:52 PM (llON8)

344 About that video of Pelosi's daughter taking video of her mom's evacuation on Jan 6th. She was using a Camcorder, not a phone to record the video. Is she a cinematographer by profession? How was it that she happened to have that with her, unless she knew beforehand that there was going to be a newsworthy event? By the way, I am a professional photographer/cinematographer, and I only carry a pro camera or a camcorder when I have a specific reason to do so.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at June 02, 2023 03:52 PM (CecP5)

345 @255
See Chris Christie.

Posted by: Henry Hill at June 02, 2023 03:52 PM (ssESX)

346 Remember when folks smoked on airplanes?

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 02, 2023 03:53 PM (W2Pud)

347 *ponders an Ewok in a fedora with a lit cigarette dangling from the lips.*

And wonders why the Ewok won't catch fire.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 02, 2023 03:53 PM (Ydres)

348 317 I mean... ask yourself: would rather live in a society of people who smoke too much, as gross as it is, or a society of powerscolds who browbeat everybody? Which is actually grosser?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (oINRc)

One where instead of browbeatings, people who want to get their point across deliver REAL beatings.

You (generic you) want to enforce something? Put your flesh, blood, and bones on the line for it.

Posted by: XTC at June 02, 2023 03:53 PM (sm6Pk)

349 5 destroyers, all smoke all the time. The cigarette and cigar smoke in CIC used to get so thick you couldn't see across the space. Spent some time in OPNAV, then back to sea right when the Navy banned smoking everywhere all the time. All those chiefs walking around covered with nicotine patches.

Life before da google.

Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at June 02, 2023 03:54 PM (9X60i)

350 Kools. She black?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 03:36 PM

I don't think Kools were originally a "black brand"

Posted by: Chuck C at June 02, 2023 03:54 PM (xttsV)

351 Neat hash there - Ydres

Book thread!

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 02, 2023 03:54 PM (Ydres)

352 Little girl was kicking ass, LOL.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 02, 2023 03:52 PM (ufFY

.......

The bullies at her school are in for a surprise.

Posted by: wth at June 02, 2023 03:54 PM (v0R5T)

353 Apparently, Ozempic users are all shitting themselves at night. Also, if you stop taking it, all the weight immediately returns. It's a Big Pharma dream. People'd rather wear diapers and be drugged until death than take a nightly stroll and stop eating garbage.
Posted by: red speck at June 02, 2023 03:48 PM (Ny/Va)

Maybe I'm lucky, but I haven't shit the bed yet. Actually, I haven't heard that one before. I'm on the side of drug makers on this one. I think the U.S. could save hundreds of billions by making this stuff affordable and over the counter.

Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 03:54 PM (VP9ao)

354 It's funny that now we never hear about the tragic deaths of the youfs dropping dead every hour from vaping, which is much safer than smoking cigarettes.

Trump is a miracle worker.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 02, 2023 03:54 PM (to8pj)

355 Posted by: nurse ratched at June 02, 2023 03:37 PM (W2Pud)

I WILL NOT BE IGNORED!!!!

Posted by: polynikes at June 02, 2023 03:55 PM (MNhXM)

356 "Is that the stuff (Ozempic) that makes you sick and makes you vomit if you eat more than two bites?

No, it just makes you feel full much quicker than normal. At first you continue to finish meals and order like you did before, which makes you bloated. Then, you start learning to order and eat less. Also, you don't look for snacks between meals like before. The best thing is you don't feel hungry.
Posted by: jwest

So Ozempic is Adderall? Because Adderall was the bee's knees.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2023 03:55 PM (GIBR7)

357 Cowboys look cool as hell when they roll their own and smoke it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2023 03:55 PM (0hOvj)

358 The mind-controlling skeletal alien overlords from They Live make cigarettes now. "They Live... in Virginia."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 02, 2023 03:16 PM (oINRc)

I was thinking of that movie when I saw those cigs.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 02, 2023 03:56 PM (ufFY8)

359 And Pierre Poilievre has a pretty wife:

https://tinyurl.com/34kfsc3r
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2023

***
Yes; she looks like Morena Baccarin of Firefly. Or *is* that her?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 02, 2023 03:56 PM (J2vNu)

360 I'm gonna move to the moon, but I've heard she's a harsh mistress.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (LvTSG)

Do you have her number

Posted by: ... at June 02, 2023 03:56 PM (3sWs2)

361 Willie Nelson quit smoking three or four years back. His lungs could no longer take it. He now does edibles.
---------------
Willie has to be older than Keith Richards. Willie may bury Keith.

Posted by: Puddinhead at June 02, 2023 03:56 PM (NsE9F)

362 One of my dear friends is suffering from dementia.

She started walking. A lot. 5 miles a day.

She is much better. But the dementia will eventually win.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 02, 2023 03:56 PM (vg8N1)

363 @346, "The captain HAS turned on the no smoking sign..."

Posted by: skywch at June 02, 2023 03:56 PM (uqhmb)

364 341 334 One of my good friends, along with his then-neighbor, consumed an entire double (?) sized bottle of red wine accompanied by a full batch of my brownies during a movie night a few years ago.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 02, 2023 03:51 PM (llON

sounds like me mowing the lawn

Posted by: REDACTED at June 02, 2023 03:56 PM (us2H3)

365 Eh, smoke or not, everyone’s choice… I do dislike scolds though.

Posted by: tubal at June 02, 2023 03:56 PM (PCK5/)

366 Still smoking after many, many years .O2 is OK, lungs sound OK according to those listening. Wouldn't recommend it as a pastime. Still nothing better than a cup of joe and a cig in the morning.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 02, 2023 03:57 PM (lz5hY)

367 340 Ozzy Osborn said quitting smoking was harder than quitting heroin.

Never once occurred to me that cigarettes were harmful.

Posted by: R. J. Reynolds at June 02, 2023 03:57 PM (9X60i)

368 360 I'm gonna move to the moon, but I've heard she's a harsh mistress.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (LvTSG)

Do you have her number
Posted by: ... at June 02, 2023 03:56 PM (3sWs2)

=========

9780234770191

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:57 PM (LvTSG)

369 Willowed:
Watching the Matt Walsh vid now. Boy, after the 50min mark...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 02, 2023 03:57 PM (ynpvh)

370
*perks up*

Did someone mention brownies?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 02, 2023 03:57 PM (MoZTd)

371 Big pharma never wants to cure you. They want to make you an addict.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 02, 2023 03:57 PM (vg8N1)

372 Quit smokin 1982, made a deal wih GOD, promised to sing in church.

Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2023 03:58 PM (eo57b)

373 Looks like the story is becoming, "The Secret Service failed to position Biden for walking safely across an open stage."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 02, 2023 03:58 PM (YDaBn)

374 Getting sued for millions often leads to a much smaller settlement.

Posted by: JmT at June 02, 2023 03:58 PM (4upfP)

375 Keith Richards is gonna be the last living human. He's gonna outlive every species on the planet.

Posted by: JEM at June 02, 2023 03:58 PM (8erNz)

376 Smokers, as a whole, are probably the least offensive of those who may define themselves by an interest or addiction.

Hi, I'm a vegan.
Hi, I'm a crossfitter.
Hi, I'm a Dave Matthews Band fan.
Hi, I'm a smoker.

The first three can piss off. I'll hang with the smoker.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 02, 2023 03:58 PM (KbCG3)

377 368 360 I'm gonna move to the moon, but I've heard she's a harsh mistress.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM (LvTSG)

Do you have her number
Posted by: ... at June 02, 2023 03:56 PM (3sWs2)

=========

9780234770191

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 02, 2023 03:57 PM (LvTSG)

Heh.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 02, 2023 03:58 PM (ynpvh)

378 346 Remember when folks smoked on airplanes?
----------------
Yes. Good Times. At 18 you could buy whatever you wanted. Booze, cigs and pistols. Fuck what we have become.

Posted by: Puddinhead at June 02, 2023 03:58 PM (NsE9F)

379 374 Getting sued for millions often leads to a much smaller settlement.

Posted by: JmT at June 02, 2023 03:58 PM (4upfP)

That's why you sue for $100s of millions or $billions.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 02, 2023 03:59 PM (ynpvh)

380 Giving up smoking is the easiest thing in the world. I know because I've done it thousands of times.

Posted by: Mark Twain at June 02, 2023 03:59 PM (ABY7r)

381 I want one of you morons to try GoLo and Nugenix and report back. TV watchers will know those are the two most repeated commercials ever.

Posted by: polynikes at June 02, 2023 03:59 PM (MNhXM)

382 Second hand cigarette smoke is the worst, especially surprise smoke in a parking lot.

All fresh and lovely and then blammo you have an irritating dirty film all over your skin hair and clothes.

Burns my face like a motherhecker and I have to find a place to wash off or I will get welts.

the only reason I live where I do is my dad was a research chemist at Philip Morris. He quit smoking very shortly after he began there. Never asked him why. In latter days he had some scary stories about the raw underbelly of Philip Morris litigation goons that were more Spranos like than you might think.

Posted by: SarahW at June 02, 2023 03:59 PM (g1vnC)

383 Want to encourage smokers to quit? Make tobacco illegal and throw users in prison.
Posted by: SFGoth at June 02, 2023

***
And oddly, ciggies will become legal tender behind bars.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 02, 2023 03:59 PM (J2vNu)

384
Canada is now printing health warnings on each individual cigarette.

Canada is no longer a nation, it is a nagtion.

I always had a good laugh with Rush when he referred to NOW as NAG, the National Association of Gals.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 02, 2023 03:59 PM (pNxlR)

385 I, too, am watching the Matt Walsh video. I am at the 32 minute mark.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 02, 2023 03:59 PM (vg8N1)

386
Remember when folks smoked on airplanes?

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 02, 2023 03:53 PM

I remember a charter flight from Philly to Hawaii. A slow speed narrow subway car reeking of smoke for about 18 hours total. The only safe place to avoid the smell was at the back of the plane... smoking a cigarette.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at June 02, 2023 04:00 PM (enJYY)

387 Giving up smoking is the easiest thing in the world. I know because I've done it thousands of times.
Posted by: Mark Twain at June 02, 2023 03:59 PM (ABY7r

The only thing I can't resist is temptation- OW

Posted by: polynikes at June 02, 2023 04:00 PM (MNhXM)

388 Hubba hubba!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JxsGWKOw4g?t=255

Posted by: Henry Hill at June 02, 2023 04:00 PM (ssESX)

389 I've recently found that the more I don't want to drag myself to the gym in the morning, the better I feel after I do.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at June 02, 2023 04:00 PM (bNf8H)

390
I don't think Kools were originally a "black brand"
Posted by: Chuck C at June 02, 2023 03:54 PM (xttsV)

They wound up that way eventually, tho.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 04:00 PM (Zz0t1)

391 >>> Maybe I'm lucky, but I haven't shit the bed yet. Actually, I haven't heard that one before. I'm on the side of drug makers on this one.....
Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 03:54 PM (VP9ao)

Me either. Mild constipation at first. Heartburn if I DO eat too much which is just incentive to not do that. The hunger being gone is amazing. I focus on eating nutrient dense food and supplements because some days I don't feel like eating at all.

I trust Novo Nordisk the pharma manufacturer more because it's a non US company. And I agree that this could end up costing pharma in the end by helping addicts kick their addictions and not NEED the other drugs that are used to treat the effects of obesity, alcoholism etc. I just read a story yesterday where smokers are noticing this drug takes away their desire to smoke.

Posted by: ravenmother at June 02, 2023 04:00 PM (GKldw)

392 >>> 370
*perks up*

Did someone mention brownies?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 02, 2023 03:57 PM (MoZTd)

I make a batch every year at the TX MoMee.

In fact I may make two or three this year...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 02, 2023 04:01 PM (llON8)

393 And of course I'm not defending smoking. It's a shitty life-choice. It ought to be illegal for children, and it is. It ought to be strongly discouraged, and it is. But printing propaganda in all-capitals on cigarettes by law is a symptom of something worse. And certainly much weirder.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 02, 2023 04:01 PM (oINRc)

394 NOOD Disney sucks

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 02, 2023 04:01 PM (DRSnL)

395 Cowboys look cool as hell when they roll their own and smoke it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2023

***
Prince Albert and some of the other drugstore pipe tobacco brands used to advertise that their stuff was good for "roll your own." Must have smelled great -- better than the usual cigarette tobacco.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 02, 2023 04:01 PM (J2vNu)

396 Remember when folks smoked on airplanes?

Remember when the doctor came in to the exam room smoking?

No shit story. 1983. John Sealy Hospital in Galveston. Old female surgeon. Walking thru the surgery suite smoking a cigarette.

Saw. It. With. My. Own. Two. Eyes.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2023 04:01 PM (GIBR7)

397 /sockoff

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 02, 2023 04:02 PM (ssESX)

398 In Calif, at 18, you could buy ciggies and a rifle. But not a pistol or booze.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 02, 2023 04:02 PM (vg8N1)

399 378 The movie, The High and the Mighty, where you could smoke on a plane, bring your own booze in a flask, and have a .38 stashed away, just in case.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 02, 2023 04:02 PM (lz5hY)

400 Canada is now printing health warnings on each individual cigarette.

Wonder if the ink is toxic?

Posted by: Inogame at June 02, 2023 04:02 PM (53oGX)

401 The back 10 rows were designated smoking on international flights 30 years ago. That may have been the last year for any smoking on an airplane.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 02, 2023 04:03 PM (+Wcyp)

402 Still nothing better than a cup of joe and a cig in the morning. Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 02, 2023 03:57 PM (lz5hY)

Or after a great dinner. Sitting back, having an after dinner drink and a cigarette.

It was worth smoking just for that.

Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2023 04:03 PM (VP9ao)

403 Canada is now printing health warnings on each individual cigarette.

I'd be willing to bet there's something in the ink which would be harmful to smoke. So they're actually making it even more harmful. Kinda like that earlier post today about not solving the problems they're trying to solve.

Posted by: InZona at June 02, 2023 04:04 PM (bRRxa)

404 If you are an exercise kook and you go out for a fine dinner, every 30 minutes you'll have an almost uncontrollable urge to go out and exercise for eight minutes. People are going to notice that. Those who are stuck on the habit think they look great doing it.

There are real downsides and hazards to "physical cultism" (the old name for exercise kookiness), but you're never going to hear them from the devotees.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at June 02, 2023 04:05 PM (jYCXf)

405 @359

>>Yes; she looks like Morena Baccarin of Firefly. Or *is* that her?

She's pretty but that was is definitely not Morena Baccarin.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 02, 2023 04:05 PM (up/3i)

406 The lawyer crowd that sued (raped) big tabacky is still out there. Now they've been turned loose on the military bases. 'Did you ever drink water or bathe when tou were in the military? Let's me and you sue the Marine Corps(e). I bet we can get you a hunnert bucks.

Posted by: Eromero at June 02, 2023 04:05 PM (eo57b)

407 Joe Biden must get a lot of exercise as he's obviously a healthy and vigorous 80!
Posted by: Jay in PA

Stays fit by hiting the heavy bag...

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at June 02, 2023 04:05 PM (iqkSy)

408 Great now Dave Ramsay is getting sued for 150 million over advice he gave about a time share.

If his advice was anything but "stay away, never buy in" it was bad advice, but how can you sue someone for advice??
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 02, 2023 03:49 PM

He really pushed "Timeshare Exit Team" on his show and apparently didn't disclose that they were paying him.

In con-man land, apparently if a team successfully runs a con on you they then make additional money by selling your contact info to a team that will "help you your money back"

Posted by: Chuck C at June 02, 2023 04:06 PM (xttsV)

409 Hubba hubba!
https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=2JxsGWKOw4g?t=255

Posted by: Henry Hill at June 02, 2023 04:00 PM (ssESX)

I so don't get tattoos.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 04:07 PM (Zz0t1)

410 I met SF writer Larry Niven at a convention in Austin in '85. He hadn't stopped smoking yet and carried his pipe, no lie, in a little holster on his belt.

No wonder in an early story he has his lead character (in the 2500s AD) smoke and reflect that the things used to be bad for you before they took out all the harmful substances. Probably LN wished we could do that now.

He quit completely a few years later, he said, and everything started to taste and smell better.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 02, 2023 04:07 PM (J2vNu)

411 A young guy asked me if I remembered smoking in the work place. Told him I remembered my dentist lighting up while waiting for the novacaine to kick in.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 02, 2023 04:07 PM (lz5hY)

412 Joe Biden must get a lot of exercise as he's obviously a healthy and vigorous 80!
Posted by: Jay in PA

Saw a twatter thread today that showed Biden and is fall at graduation. People started posting gifs of him jogging with Owebama at the White House, then Trump, slowly walking up and down steps.

Yeah, Biden jogged 10 years ago........f*ck off.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 04:08 PM (Zz0t1)

413 I trust Novo Nordisk the pharma manufacturer more because it's a non US company. And I agree that this could end up costing pharma in the end by helping addicts kick their addictions and not NEED the other drugs that are used to treat the effects of obesity, alcoholism etc. I just read a story yesterday where smokers are noticing this drug takes away their desire to smoke.
Posted by: ravenmother at June 02, 2023

***
Yes, but . . . hair loss as a side effect???

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 02, 2023 04:08 PM (J2vNu)

414 I watched Final Days yesterday.

I'm never getting a vaccine or trusting in Big Pharma ever again.

If they put that shit in the meningitis vaccine and my daughter starts showing negative effects, I'm going postal.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 02, 2023 04:11 PM (Zz0t1)

415 hiya

Posted by: JT at June 02, 2023 04:11 PM (T4tVD)

416 Nicotine itself is one hell of an anti-anxiety drug though. There's a reason they used to give cigarettes to condemned prisoners. I was a paramedic for the first decade of my working years, and also had many family members who were EMS or Fire. Most of us noticed that the people who smoked or dipped mostly had better humor and calmer demeanor. Not always, but on average.

Posted by: Gus at June 02, 2023 04:32 PM (l1kOz)

417 >>>Yes, but . . . hair loss as a side effect???
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 02, 2023 04:08 PM (J2vNu)

I'm not sure if I can blame the drug, or my previous white knuckle keto weight loss, to be fair. I tend to shed hair when losing weight, as has happened in the past without this drug. My bigger worry is the possible thyroid side effects. I would not be taking this if I weren't desperate. I'm an addict. This does something to that facet of my brain chemistry that's helping me. I wish that I had enough "will power" to not have to take it. I don't know if I'll be able to swing the next month's cost so I might have to go without for awhile. I'm hoping some of this "retraining of my brain" will stick around.

Posted by: ravenmother at June 02, 2023 05:29 PM (GKldw)

418 A Warning on all Liberal Democrat. Caution Hazerdous to your Freedom and Liberty

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at June 02, 2023 05:54 PM (wGqjj)

419

Finally, my paycheck is $ 8,500 A working 10 hours per week online. My brother’s friend had an average of 12K for several months, he work about 22 hours a week. I can not believe how easy it is, once I try to do so. This is what I do....

AND GOOD LUCK.

HERE====)> www.apprichs.com

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