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The Freedom Caucus Objects to McCarthy's Compromise With Biden on the Debt No-Limit, Saying He Gave the Store Away

Some Freedom Caucus members are saying they'll vote against the debt no-limit sellout, but it doesn't matter: There are enough "Big Government Republicans," one member says, who will vote with the Democrats to pass this.

Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) tamped down Republican opposition ahead of Wednesday's vote on the debt ceiling bill.

"I'm confident we'll pass the bill," the California Republican told reporters on Tuesday.

Ahead of the pivotal decision on the deal struck by McCarthy and President Joe Biden, the House Republican Conference met to discuss members' issues with the legislation, otherwise known as the Fiscal Responsibility Act.

Some but not all members of the House Freedom Caucus have vented about how the bill does not do enough to tackle America's deficit problem.

Rep. Randy Weber (R-TX), a member of the Freedom Caucus, urged his fellow Freedom Caucus members to "cut it out."

Two Freedom Caucus members, Reps. Dan Bishop (R-NC) and Chip Roy (R-TX), have vocally opposed the debt ceiling deal as have others.

Bishop floated using the motion to vacate, a parliamentary procedure to remove the speaker, over the debt ceiling.

Roy said on Tuesday that conservatives would have to "figure out the whole leadership arrangement again" in a veiled threat against McCarthy.

However, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH), the Judiciary Committee chairman and a Freedom Caucus member, said that ousting McCarthy over the debt ceiling deal was a "terrible idea."

Is it all bad? No, just mostly. Thomas Massie, who is usually someone I trust, says that at least it cuts some spending.

He also spotlights part of the agreement which returns the House to regular order, in which they have to vote on 12 separate appropriations bills instead of suspending regular order to vote on some huge "omnibus spending bill" that almost always is just the previous omnibus spending bill plus bonus money for the government, because it's been doing such a good job recently. We've been passing omnibus spending bills now since... well like since 9/11.

If Congress does pass an omnibus spending bill, the agreement is that that budget will automatically be cut 1%.

But... can't they just increase the spending in that budget by another 1% so that when they "cut" the 1%, it's the amount they wanted all along?



Massie wrote on Tuesday, "I've been in Congress for a decade and this is the first real bill that cuts spending. It also includes an automatic 1% cut to spending on January 1 if Congress doesn't pass the 12 appropriations bills."

Posted by: Ace at 02:43 PM




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1 Willowed:

Ace-
you might want to make a post of this.

Trump has now decided to attack Kayleigh McEnany because she talked about poll numbers he didn't like.

https://tinyurl.com/mwnasffe

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 02:43 PM (eOEVl)

2 I've been waiting for this thread since Monday. So I can avoid it.

Posted by: Turn 2 at May 31, 2023 02:44 PM (fH/9W)

3 Wow, threadjacking in the first post.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 31, 2023 02:44 PM (u73oe)

4 shut DC down for a year or two. They shut us down that long.

Posted by: henry at May 31, 2023 02:44 PM (JMDly)

5 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 31, 2023 02:44 PM (Zz0t1)

6 A vote to increase the debt limit is a vote to

Increase Inflation
Reduce your standard of living
Increase the price of groceries
Reduce the middle class

Is anyone in the GOPe actually pointing this out?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 31, 2023 02:45 PM (lc5cP)

7 Shalanda Young, the top White House negotiator on the debt deal, joked with reporters Wednesday as the Biden administration continued its victory lap and Republican leaders came under pressure.

Giddy White House does victory lap over debt ceiling deal while conservatives turn on McCarthy

Posted by: SMOD at May 31, 2023 02:45 PM (RHGPo)

8 GOP failure theater has to be the longest running show on earth.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 31, 2023 02:45 PM (Q4IgG)

9 When you need a libertarian to take a stand, you end up with ones like Thomas Massie.

Posted by: Crom Laughs - Troonteenth begins tomorrow at May 31, 2023 02:45 PM (dN42F)

10 One thing I can't get over is how ineffectual the Freedom Caucus always is. Whether under Bush or Trump, nothing they do really influences politics. It really puts their membership in perspective.

In 2024, the side calling for austerity to pay back the bankers will lose. Huge. Ideally, the President will negotiate down the payments while trimming the debts. Or repudiate them entirely, as plan B.

Posted by: trev006 at May 31, 2023 02:45 PM (FWpta)

11 Not cutting the 87,000 new IRS agents is what I'm most pissed about. Talk about low hanging fruit, I bet 80% of americans oppose this.

The House control the purse strings and we cant even "not" hire all these new deep staters to audit everyone?

McCarthy is Trump's guy, so not surprised he can't cut a deal.

Even Paul Ryan got more out of Obama.

Posted by: Kukui at May 31, 2023 02:45 PM (uMFis)

12 So, per Massie, instead of 100% Failure Theater, it's now 90-95% Failure Theater?

Meh. It's become impossible for me to be impressed by any of these maneuvers anymore.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 31, 2023 02:45 PM (jGGMD)

13 Posted by: Turn 2 at May 31, 2023 02:44 PM (fH/9W)

LOL. Good for you!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 31, 2023 02:45 PM (Keyt1)

14 We are not getting out of debt until the Marxists are gone

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2023 02:46 PM (xhxe8)

15 Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 02:43 PM (eOEVl)

ZZZZ. You know, a lot of us no longer care about any of this because it doesn't matter. We aren't voting our way out of it.

Posted by: Crom Laughs - Troonteenth begins tomorrow at May 31, 2023 02:46 PM (dN42F)

16 McCarthy drinks Bud Lite?

Posted by: wth at May 31, 2023 02:47 PM (v0R5T)

17 Where is Will Call for this performance of Failure Theater?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 31, 2023 02:48 PM (RIvkX)

18 LOL the Freedom Caucus is upset at the scorpion they were swimming across the creek.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 31, 2023 02:48 PM (0hOvj)

19 So we're turning this thread into another Trump/DeSantis one?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 31, 2023 02:48 PM (Keyt1)

20 So, per Massie, instead of 100% Failure Theater, it's now 90-95% Failure Theater?

Meh. It's become impossible for me to be impressed by any of these maneuvers anymore.
Posted by: Dr. T at May 31, 2023 02:45 PM (jGGMD)

We followed the process though. That's the important thing. Results are irrelevant as long as process is followed.

Posted by: Crom Laughs - Troonteenth begins tomorrow at May 31, 2023 02:48 PM (dN42F)

21 Budlighting > Gaslighting

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2023 02:48 PM (9UlRk)

22 A complete capitulation on budgetary matters?

Gasp!

I would never have guessed!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 02:48 PM (LvTSG)

23 Even Hamas has gotten into the spirit of Pride Month!

Jerusalem's Pride Parade is tomorrow, and Hamas is appropriately supportive:

Hamas denounces the Pride Parade in Jerusalem tomorrow, calling it “a provocative march of perverts.”

In a statement, a spokesperson for the Gaza-ruling terror group calls on Palestinians to go to confront marchers “in defense of the Al-Aqsa Mosque.”

Posted by: ONE DAY Until Pride Month! at May 31, 2023 02:48 PM (2tUFv)

24 So we're turning this thread into another Trump/DeSantis one?

Would you prefer dueling cheesecake?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 02:49 PM (eOEVl)

25 The Freedom Caucus can go horsefuck.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 31, 2023 02:49 PM (oJm/a)

26 There are enough "Big Government Republicans," one member says, who will vote with the Democrats to pass this.
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There's always "just enough" to do what needs to be done. Like magic. Sometimes it's 13 Big Government Republicans. Sometimes it's just one unlucky thumbs down.

One day we'll figure out that they're ALL Big Government Republicans and they hate us and want us dead.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 02:49 PM (Wgd+q)

27 GOP failure theater has to be the longest running show on earth.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 31, 2023 02:45 PM (Q4IgG)
.......

I've got season tickets.

Posted by: wth at May 31, 2023 02:49 PM (v0R5T)

28 24 So we're turning this thread into another Trump/DeSantis one?

Would you prefer dueling cheesecake?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 02:49 PM (eOEVl)

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I will vote for the candidate who makes the most decadent cheesecake from scratch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 02:49 PM (LvTSG)

29 Damn right wing domestic terrorists!

LGBT Group Threatens To Bomb Target Stores

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 31, 2023 02:49 PM (FVME7)

30 Wow, threadjacking in the first post.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 31, 2023 02:44 PM (u73oe)

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You will be made to hate Trump!

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at May 31, 2023 02:49 PM (2ucL/)

31 If Biden himself gives McCarthy a wedgie and steals his wallet right out of his back pocket on national television, I'll donate $1,000 to his '24 campaign.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 31, 2023 02:49 PM (9UlRk)

32 Yeah, and we'd love to see who the "cuck conservative" power brokers are behind the scenes on this. For instance, to what degree the TransConservative Shitt Rumney is shaking and kneeling and *lowing

Posted by: Despise Marxist Rats & Taxachusetts GOPe Carpetbaggers at May 31, 2023 02:50 PM (5DfsO)

33 Someone else working for Fox News pulling for McCarthy, "thinking" the McCarthy deal is the only realistic alternative.

https://tinyurl.com/bdh7nsfs

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 02:50 PM (Vwz3I)

34 The settlement of the debt ceiling problem, which has now been achieved is, in my view, only the prelude to a larger settlement in which all Americans may find fiscal stability. This morning I had another talk with the American President, Herr Biden, and here is the paper which bears his name upon it as well as mine [shows Fiscal Responsibility Act to crowd]. Some of you, perhaps, have already heard what it contains but I would just like to read it to you: [political word salad ensues]

My good friends, for the second time in our history, a GOP-e Speaker has returned from the Democrat-controlled White House bringing Fiscal Responsibility with honour. I believe it is Fiscal Responsibility for our time. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts. Go home and get a nice quiet sleep.

Posted by: Kevin "Neville" McCarthy at May 31, 2023 02:50 PM (4I/2K)

35 Some congress woman said McCarthy got out smarted by a guy who cant find his pants...

lol... pretty funny, and true

Posted by: Haywood at May 31, 2023 02:50 PM (dfNoh)

36 You need trillions in spending cuts just to get back to the bloated pre-COVID levels

And here we might be getting...1% reduction? Err...thanks guys.

But honestly if they aren't going to save the country and just say no to any more debt spending cuts don't matter.

The focus then should be onerous tax increases on leftwing interest groups. If there was a serious oppostion party we'd be taking about the abortion tax, the solar panel tax, the electric car tax and so on then paired with hand outs to conservative interest groups. Billions to Gun Owners of America for "gun safety classes", cash bounties for turning in illegals, cash payouts for people injured by the clot shot etc.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 31, 2023 02:50 PM (lc5cP)

37 I will vote for the candidate who makes the most decadent cheesecake from scratch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 02:49 PM (LvTSG)

I use Juniors' recipe. It's unreal.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 02:51 PM (Wgd+q)

38 So tell me - how many of the "Freedom Caucus" voted against that continuing resolution crap sandwich that passed last fall - carrying the government spending through to this coming fall?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 31, 2023 02:51 PM (N39Ws)

39 Look everyone, if anything will get us out of 40 trillion dollars in debt, it's Frank Luntz' roommate.

Posted by: Azathoth at May 31, 2023 02:51 PM (wb1YC)

40 12 So, per Massie, instead of 100% Failure Theater, it's now 90-95% Failure Theater?

Meh. It's become impossible for me to be impressed by any of these maneuvers anymore.
Posted by: Dr. T at May 31, 2023 02:45 PM (jGGMD)
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Look at what we did! We're selling $100 bills for $96 now. Not $95.

Posted by: scampydog at May 31, 2023 02:51 PM (2bFN5)

41 This is what you get when you cave on the speaker position for a pack of lying promises from a professional liar.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 31, 2023 02:51 PM (0hOvj)

42 I've looked at Trump from both sides now
From Win and Lose and still somehow
It's all Trump's bullshit I recall
I really don't like Trump at all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2023 02:51 PM (i9ffA)

43 There's always "just enough" to do what needs to be done. Like magic. Sometimes it's 13 Big Government Republicans. Sometimes it's just one unlucky thumbs down.

One day we'll figure out that they're ALL Big Government Republicans and they hate us and want us dead.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 02:49 PM (Wgd+q)

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Isn't it time for a reincarnation of The Gang of Eight?

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at May 31, 2023 02:51 PM (2ucL/)

44 You will be made to hate Trump!

So you agree with what he did?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 02:51 PM (eOEVl)

45 So we're turning this thread into another Trump/DeSantis one?

Would you prefer dueling cheesecake?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 02:49 PM (eOEVl)


Which one eats it with his fingers?

Posted by: Dr. T at May 31, 2023 02:51 PM (jGGMD)

46 McCarthy drinks Bud Lite?

Straight from Frank Luntz's poll.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 31, 2023 02:51 PM (lc5cP)

47 Our current debt is so huge, we've already hit the iceberg. There's no political will to take the drastic steps necessary to attempt any sort of recovery.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2023 02:52 PM (R38qh)

48
Hamas denounces the Pride Parade in Jerusalem tomorrow, calling it “a provocative march of perverts.”

In a statement, a spokesperson for the Gaza-ruling terror group calls on Palestinians to go to confront marchers “in defense of the Al-Aqsa Mosque.”
Posted by: ONE DAY Until Pride Month! at May 31, 2023 02:48 PM (2tUFv)

That could be interesting.

Posted by: NL at May 31, 2023 02:52 PM (eGTCV)

49 One day we'll figure out that they're ALL Big Government Republicans and they hate us and want us dead.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 02:49 PM (Wgd+q)

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Well, everyone else will figure it out, anyway. Because we already know that.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 02:52 PM (DRSnL)

50 It also includes an automatic 1% cut to spending on January 1

Planned Infanticide hardest hit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 31, 2023 02:52 PM (guGkK)

51 There's always "just enough" to do what needs to be done. Like magic. Sometimes it's 13 Big Government Republicans. Sometimes it's just one unlucky thumbs down.

They'll bribe or blackmail as many Republicans as they need to.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 31, 2023 02:52 PM (lc5cP)

52 19 I kinda liked the In N Out Burger vs. Five Guys thread.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2023 02:52 PM (mw8fy)

53 MTG loves her some McCarthy ... ugh

Posted by: Haywood at May 31, 2023 02:53 PM (dfNoh)

54 LGBTAKBAR

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 02:53 PM (Wgd+q)

55 Uh Oh............

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 31, 2023 02:53 PM (ncXxy)

56 You will be made to hate Trump!
Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at May 31, 2023 02:49 PM (2ucL/)

See, that's not going to work. We know the neocuck wing doesn't just hate Trump, but his voters. It doesn't even make sense as a strategy to get the nom.

But if you know you're losing to Mike Pence or Tim Scott, shoring up the NeverTrump wing is suddenly a smart play.

Posted by: trev006 at May 31, 2023 02:53 PM (FWpta)

57 I kinda liked the In N Out Burger vs. Five Guys thread.

I prefer 5 Guys for my mouth meat party to be honest

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 31, 2023 02:53 PM (lc5cP)

58 If the Biden victory lap ends with a full diaper face plant it would be amusing in a way.

Posted by: NL at May 31, 2023 02:53 PM (eGTCV)

59 I renewed my drivers license this morning and changed my voter registration to "No Party".

Posted by: wth at May 31, 2023 02:54 PM (v0R5T)

60 52 19 I kinda liked the In N Out Burger vs. Five Guys thread.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2023 02:52 PM (mw8fy)

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And I still haven't eaten today.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 02:54 PM (LvTSG)

61 Would you prefer dueling cheesecake?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 02:49 PM (eOEVl)

Is that what they're planning to do instead of a debate?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 31, 2023 02:54 PM (Keyt1)

62 I kinda liked the In N Out Burger vs. Five Guys thread.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2023 02:52 PM (mw8fy)

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I learned that I can't be friends with Sponge.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 02:54 PM (DRSnL)

63 >>> 59 I renewed my drivers license this morning and changed my voter registration to "No Party".
Posted by: wth at May 31, 2023 02:54 PM (v0R5T)

Welcome to the NoParty, pal!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 02:54 PM (llON8)

64 But...but...how is this going to impact Pride Month?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 31, 2023 02:54 PM (Xrfse)

65 Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 02:52 PM (DRSnL)

This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 02:54 PM (Wgd+q)

66 Who was the democrat who said "Just pass this one and let's work on getting rid of the debt limit entirely" or some such.

He's got the right idea...stop fronting and just admit we is in debt and keep growing it until to pops.

The debt limit bull crap is just smoke and mirrors to make people feel better about their greed and theft.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2023 02:54 PM (7tCXb)

67
Hamas denounces the Pride Parade in Jerusalem tomorrow, calling it “a provocative march of perverts.”


I suspect the smarter ones among the Jihadi leadership have realized allying with the left after 9/11 was...a bad choice.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 31, 2023 02:55 PM (lc5cP)

68 Welp, the Arctic ice cover now is the same as it was on this date - in 2004.

This isn't hysterical enough, so someone has come up with a new measure - combining the Arctic and Antarctic ice sheets for a new, scary fact:

current global ice extent is the lowest on record for today's date...

The historical average for today is about 23 million square kilometers, and today is about 21 million square kilometers.

Scary!

Fortunately, the guy doing this cut off the bottom of the graph to make things look even worse:

https://tinyurl.com/bddk9nrv

Posted by: ONE DAY Until Pride Month! at May 31, 2023 02:55 PM (2tUFv)

69 McCarthy is like that joke about the guy going bear hunting and he keeps getting raped by the bear.

Sooner or later we are going to have to realize the real reason he stays in DC.

He's not there to negotiate, is he?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 31, 2023 02:55 PM (mt8I3)

70 Keeping funding for the IRS agents was the step too far.... kill the bill.

Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at May 31, 2023 02:55 PM (3aOHH)

71 >>>There's always "just enough" to do what needs to be done. Like magic. Sometimes it's 13 Big Government Republicans. Sometimes it's just one unlucky thumbs down.


In a twisted way, the lion's share of my contempt goes to the GOPers who vote against "deals" like these because they know it's safe to do so. Of course it's hard to know which ones those are, as opposed to those doing so from genuine opposition, which fuels my ire.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 31, 2023 02:55 PM (jGGMD)

72 The so-called "Freedom Caucus" made a lot of noise about getting juicy appointments to key committees. They claimed they'd be in a position to "shake things up."

What they really wanted, and apparently got was just better seats at the grift table.

That's it. That's all anyone in the GOP wants. What you want is irrelevant.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 31, 2023 02:55 PM (Q4IgG)

73 Congress became irrelevant a long time ago - a divided house and senate is doubly irrelevant. What they say and the votes they take ate meaningless theater. The best most brilliant bills couldn't change our ultimate destination, and the worst bills will just speed up the day of reckoning, which I'm fine with. So why bother caring about thr nonsense bills they pass.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 31, 2023 02:56 PM (i9ffA)

74 first rule of politics

never trust a man who shacks up with Rug Luntz

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2023 02:56 PM (us2H3)

75 >>> 62 I kinda liked the In N Out Burger vs. Five Guys thread.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2023 02:52 PM (mw8fy)

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I learned that I can't be friends with Sponge.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 02:54 PM (DRSnL)

Because he doesn't like In-N-Out? Come visit me and we'll go to Jucy's Hamburgers.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 02:56 PM (llON8)

76 TJM, you need to eat something before 5:00. You don’t wanna start drinking on an empty stomach.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2023 02:56 PM (mw8fy)

77 And I still haven't eaten today.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 02:54 PM (LvTSG)

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I have leftover baked ziti I can share.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 02:56 PM (DRSnL)

78 I don't give a fuck about the "deal" nearly as much as I care about the fact that Republicans are content to pretend they have "negotiated" with Creepy Von Shower McMushbrain.

What a fucking insult.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 02:56 PM (Wgd+q)

79 Would you prefer dueling cheesecake?
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Maybe discuss the debt ceiling/budget?

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 02:56 PM (Vwz3I)

80 76 TJM, you need to eat something before 5:00. You don’t wanna start drinking on an empty stomach.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2023 02:56 PM (mw8fy)

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This implies that I have stopped.

I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 02:56 PM (LvTSG)

81 Shuffling deck chairs.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 31, 2023 02:57 PM (eYoxG)

82 77 I have leftover baked ziti I can share.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 02:56 PM (DRSnL)

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Carb city!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 02:57 PM (LvTSG)

83 this is like h w bush giving the dems a tax hike in return for spending cuts that we somehow never got.

it's like we get a six foot long hero from an italian deli, the dems get five and a half feet and we drop trou, bend over and get the other six inches.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 31, 2023 02:57 PM (B1FKF)

84 Our current debt is so huge, we've already hit the iceberg. There's no political will to take the drastic steps necessary to attempt any sort of recovery.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2023 02:52 PM (R38qh)
.......

Gird your loins.

Posted by: wth at May 31, 2023 02:57 PM (v0R5T)

85 McCarthy drinks Bud Lite?

Straight from Frank Luntz's poll.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 31, 2023 02:51 PM (lc5cP)



The rarely seen 'golden shit shower.'

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 31, 2023 02:57 PM (Zz0t1)

86 Mitch is all in on this shitpile

all you need to know

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2023 02:57 PM (us2H3)

87 =========

Carb city!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 02:57 PM (LvTSG)



The B-Side to Guns n' Roses' Patience.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 31, 2023 02:58 PM (Zz0t1)

88 A new nic for Pride Month!

Posted by: A Provocative March of Peverts! at May 31, 2023 02:58 PM (2tUFv)

89 Clearly this calls for billions more to Ukraine.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 31, 2023 02:59 PM (u73oe)

90 So, we are in the late stages of the Globohomo American Empire. Well, at least we have WiFi...

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 31, 2023 02:59 PM (XxKgh)

91 Because he doesn't like In-N-Out? Come visit me and we'll go to Jucy's Hamburgers.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 02:56 PM (llON8

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Apparently there is a good burger place here I need to try. I've have three separate people tell me they ate there and loved it. Wisconsinburger.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 02:59 PM (DRSnL)

92 this is john kerry negotiating with iran level negotiating. they get most of what they want and we get to say "it's the best deal we could get."

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 31, 2023 02:59 PM (B1FKF)

93 The GOPe is thinking we might as well pass this thing because when the economy goes in the toilet they can say "see it's Biden's fault we gave him everything he wanted". They're smart Mikey , not like people say

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 31, 2023 03:00 PM (gCIuO)

94 Maybe discuss the debt ceiling/budget?
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 02:56 PM (Vwz3I)

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Stay on topic?! That's just crazy talk.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 03:00 PM (DRSnL)

95 It's not going to make a difference DJT or DeSantis, both are going to be treated the same by the Democrats Propaganda Ministry or the Marxists Vote fraud.

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2023 03:00 PM (xhxe8)

96 Jerry Rivers coulda got a better deal

Posted by: REDACTED at May 31, 2023 03:00 PM (us2H3)

97 The Biden People said to McCarthy "Do you want to be the husband or the wife?"

McCarthy said "the wife".

But if he had said "the husband" the Biden People would have responded "Great. Now come on over and suck yo wife's dick."

This wouldn't have fazed McCarthy at all but that's not the point. Or maybe it is....

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:02 PM (Wgd+q)

98 Yeah. *sigh*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2023 03:02 PM (Vq2Tz)

99 I suppose this could be 8D Chess like when Roberts deep throated Obamacare so Romney would end up president.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:03 PM (Wgd+q)

100 The GOPe is thinking we might as well pass this thing because when the economy goes in the toilet they can say "see it's Biden's fault we gave him everything he wanted". They're smart Mikey , not like people say
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 31, 2023 03:00 PM (gCIuO)

5D Chess Strategery by the GOPe.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 31, 2023 03:03 PM (XxKgh)

101 Rep Byron Donalds any day of the week over McCarthy etc.

Congressional Republicans are full of crap with THEIR idea of a "big tent."

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra & Jade, too. at May 31, 2023 03:03 PM (GshMh)

102 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Press Release (parody) @AOCpress·May 23
Brain farts will be taxable.
Gaslighting will be banned.
---
I’m introducing a bill in the House today to make it illegal to fart more than once per week.

If you fart more than once per week, you must capture them in a pickle jar and they must me properly disposed as nuclear waste.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:03 PM (Vwz3I)

103 Sweet Kevin's hair has been particularly lovely this week and it is because of this I trust him. It's a rule that really smart people have perfectly maintained hair, correct? My only complaint is he refuses to give me a towel to clean myself after he gets done boning me, metaphorically speaking, of course. The national debt is now so large that not even Jesus and tent full of miracles could save us at this point.

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 31, 2023 03:03 PM (2eroL)

104 Apparently McCarthy recognizes the right is upset with him over this deal, so he's pretending to throw us a bone.

@SpeakerMcCarthy has given @jsolomonReports,
@Julie_kelly2, and a third outlet unfettered access to the J6 tapes, and their reporting on it starts tomorrow.


https://tinyurl.com/47fjnenc

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2023 03:03 PM (R38qh)

105 Anybody can be friends with Sponge. For the right price.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2023 03:03 PM (mw8fy)

106 So for the first time in 28 years, the Judiciary Committee held a roll-call vote for a U.S. Attorney nominee. The result was an 11-to-11 tie. Rachael Rollins's nomination then moved on to a final vote in the full Senate. Her final confirmation vote was a 50-50 party-line tie. Harris then broke the tie for confirmation, and Rollins became U.S. Attorney on a 51-50 vote.

Republicans warned Democrats that they were buying trouble. "This is a vote you are going to regret," Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) said to Democrats. Now, Cruz's words have come true.

On May 19, after just one year and four months in office, Rollins resigned when two investigations, one by the Justice Department Office of Inspector General and the other by the U.S. Office of Special Counsel, outlined extensive misconduct. Basically, the reports showed that Rollins abused her power for political purposes in the supposedly nonpolitical position of U.S. attorney.

Posted by: SMOD at May 31, 2023 03:03 PM (RHGPo)

107 re 69: i saw gilbert gottfried of blessed memory at a comedy club do that routine about a dozen years ago.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 31, 2023 03:04 PM (B1FKF)

108 It's not going to make a difference DJT or DeSantis, both are going to be treated the same by the Democrats Propaganda Ministry or the Marxists Vote fraud.

If that's so, why don't we pick the one who isn't being a complete d*** to people who have shown him nothing but loyalty.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:04 PM (eOEVl)

109 See, this is a good thread for your wife, TJM.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2023 03:05 PM (Vq2Tz)

110 I need to apologize to the horde for a post I made earlier this morning.


I said that annual interest payments on the US debt were almost equal to the entire US department of Defense budget, I was wrong. The annual interest payments on the US debt stand at $928.9 BILLION, significantly more than the 2023 DOD budget of $857.9 billion.


https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A091RC1Q027SBEA


I regret the error.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 31, 2023 03:05 PM (ncXxy)

111 Apparently McCarthy recognizes the right is upset with him over this deal, so he's pretending to throw us a bone.

@SpeakerMcCarthy has given @jsolomonReports,
@Julie_kelly2, and a third outlet unfettered access to the J6 tapes, and their reporting on it starts tomorrow.

https://tinyurl.com/47fjnenc


If nothing else, he's learning how to play the distraction game.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 31, 2023 03:05 PM (Bd6X8)

112 I KNEW THIS WAS A SHIT SANDWICH WHEN I SAW hot gas PIMPING FOR IT ON SUNDAY.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 31, 2023 03:05 PM (17s+e)

113 We MUST defend Fox People now. That's the hill to die on.

Or maybe Kayleigh doesn't realize who signs her checks.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:05 PM (Wgd+q)

114 "Democrats use money to attain power.
Republicans use power to attain money."

Seen a meme of this somewhere.

Also,
"The Democrat party fears their base; the Republican party despises their base."

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2023 03:06 PM (ek3eh)

115 Our current debt is so huge, we've already hit the iceberg. There's no political will to take the drastic steps necessary to attempt any sort of recovery.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2023 02:52 PM (R38qh)

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With unfunded liabilities included, likely over #300 trillion.

A real-world application of learning "musical chairs" in kindergarten ... with far more dire consequences.

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at May 31, 2023 03:06 PM (2ucL/)

116 78. Cruz told a CNBC interviewer last week that no one is actually negotiating with Biden. “Negotiations are with the young Marxist s in the Biden administration who have no problem but ideological incentives to have us default. We are dealing with people who have no background or experience regarding financial suicide for a country and actually think this is good for the globe “


Posted by: Jen the original at May 31, 2023 03:06 PM (vpE19)

117 re 104: well, that's something anyway. not that it will make much of a difference to the prosecutors and judges in d.c.

and expect the conserving conservatives to throw a tantrum.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 31, 2023 03:07 PM (B1FKF)

118 BUT HOLLYWOOD KEEPS PUSHING US AWAY: Larger Screens, Heated Seats, Sushi: Theater Owners Want You Back.

Theater sushi sounds about as appetizing as truck stop.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2023 03:07 PM (Vq2Tz)

119 I kinda liked the In N Out Burger vs. Five Guys thread.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
......

My fave TV burger ad with the guy who can't hold a tune plus pictures of big juicy burgers:

Eat like a king who's on a budget
three tasty options fries drink and nuggets
all for five bucks... wait that can't be right
just confirmed that's the real price
at BK have it your way YOU RULE

Posted by: wth at May 31, 2023 03:08 PM (v0R5T)

120 Democrats use money to attain power.
Republicans use power to attain money.

Seen a meme of this somewhere.
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I think they are rather interchangeable, non?

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:08 PM (Wgd+q)

121 "Democrats use money to attain power.
Republicans use power to attain money."

Seen a meme of this somewhere.

---------

Sundance at CTH?

Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at May 31, 2023 03:08 PM (2ucL/)

122 I think they are rather interchangeable, non?
Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:08 PM (Wgd+q)
___

Very much so.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2023 03:08 PM (ek3eh)

123 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Press Release (parody)
@AOCpress·May 29
FUN FACT: The farts of transgender people are less toxic.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Press Release (parody)
@AOCpress·May 29
Contest announcement:
The first person to invent low-fart hay to feed cows will win a date with me.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:08 PM (Vwz3I)

124 Or maybe Kayleigh doesn't realize who signs her checks.
Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:05 PM (Wgd+q)

Oh, I can defend Kayleigh. Ahem.

"How dare Orange Man besmirch her honor! Doesn't he realize that the poll numbers further indicates that the rival is not picking up speed, and he's only calling attention to-"

Oh! Well, please continue, Mister President.

Posted by: trev006 at May 31, 2023 03:09 PM (FWpta)

125 Posted by: wth at May 31, 2023 03:08 PM (v0R5T)

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Ohhhh....I hate you. I'm not gonna be able to get that song out of my head now.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 03:09 PM (DRSnL)

126 I will vote for the candidate who makes the most decadent cheesecake from scratch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 02:49 PM (LvTSG)
----
I'll toss my hat in the ring...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 31, 2023 03:09 PM (YIVH2)

127 Look everyone, if anything will get us out of 40 trillion dollars in debt, it's Frank Luntz' roommate.
------------
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Press Release (parody)
@AOCpress · May 29
FYI …
I’ll be competing in a celebrity boxing match next month against Frank Luntz.

All proceeds will go to providing transgender surgeries for children.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:09 PM (Vwz3I)

128 Sundance at CTH?
Posted by: ShainS
___

Gab, actually.

Like I said, it was a meme.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2023 03:09 PM (ek3eh)

129 Hamas denounces the Pride Parade in Jerusalem tomorrow, calling it “a provocative march of perverts.”

In a statement, a spokesperson for the Gaza-ruling terror group calls on Palestinians to go to confront marchers “in defense of the Al-Aqsa Mosque.”


Oh, the media's heads will explode if that goes off. I hope it does now.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2023 03:10 PM (ZGrMX)

130 >>> 123 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Press Release (parody)
@AOCpress·May 29
FUN FACT: The farts of transgender people are less toxic.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Press Release (parody)
@AOCpress·May 29
Contest announcement:
The first person to invent low-fart hay to feed cows will win a date with me.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:08 PM (Vwz3I)

Oh fck, we're doomed.

Posted by: greentards at May 31, 2023 03:10 PM (llON8)

131 129 Hamas denounces the Pride Parade in Jerusalem tomorrow, calling it “a provocative march of perverts.”

In a statement, a spokesperson for the Gaza-ruling terror group calls on Palestinians to go to confront marchers “in defense of the Al-Aqsa Mosque.”

Oh, the media's heads will explode if that goes off. I hope it does now.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2023 03:10 PM (ZGrMX)

I... am conflicted.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2023 03:10 PM (Vq2Tz)

132 re 95: everything trump is attacking desantis for will be used by the dems if desantis is the nominee. trump is almost doing him a favor by letting him know what to expect

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 31, 2023 03:10 PM (B1FKF)

133 Fucking Diaz-Balart is not on the NO list. Either is Stefanik.

GOPe dopes.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at May 31, 2023 03:11 PM (KiBMU)

134 We MUST defend Fox People now. That's the hill to die on.

Or maybe Kayleigh doesn't realize who signs her checks.
Posted by: ...

I'll be dead 60-90 days after the SHTF, because BP meds will be bye-bye. I won't defend wilfully ignorant people that provide support to and nurture the enemy that will murder me. She's cute, but I already have a daughter and don't need another one that's dumb as a box of rocks for working a Fox.

That said, y'all know where I am on the cw2 commencement of festivities. I need to shut eff up.

Posted by: BifBewalski at May 31, 2023 03:11 PM (3CCua)

135 On May 19, after just one year and four months in office, Rollins resigned when two investigations, one by the Justice Department Office of Inspector General and the other by the U.S. Office of Special Counsel, outlined extensive misconduct. Basically, the reports showed that Rollins abused her power for political purposes in the supposedly nonpolitical position of U.S. attorney.
Posted by: SMOD at May 31, 2023 03:03 PM (RHGPo)
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With behavior like that, it's no wonder Democrats supported her nomination so fiercely.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 31, 2023 03:11 PM (YIVH2)

136 I'm not sure if this is real or just trolling -- I think it's real -- but this "open letter" to Taylor Swift from her "fans" is hysterical. They're imploring her to dump her new boyfriend, who I never heard of before, because he's a litany of made-up "ists" and "isms." When you've lost leftwing Taylor Swift . . . .

https://tinyurl.com/2sywsmun

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 31, 2023 03:12 PM (iFTx/)

137 >>> 132 re 95: everything [insert "R" name here] is attacking [insert "R" name here] for will be used by the dems if [insert "R" name here] is the nominee. [insert "R" name here] is almost doing him a favor by letting him know what to expect
Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 31, 2023 03:10 PM (B1FKF)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 03:12 PM (llON8)

138 Sooo.... The 17 year old girl spawn decided to get her hair cut. It was straight, jet black and almost to her waist. She was saying shoulder length and purple highlights. Stylist told her the highlight would be nearly impossible without serious damage to her hair. Scratch the highlights. We left the salon with her hair cut in a nice smooth chin length bob. She looks awesome.

In other news... I have two old 1970s lawn chairs. I had three. You know the type, Aluminum frame, folds in half, has the webbing and plastic arm rests. I was taking a break from painting,, sitting in one of these chairs, went to get up and bang! Plastic arm rests broke and I fell, folded in the chair. My back still hurts and the scrape on my arm is annoying. I really think plastic should last more than 50 years.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 31, 2023 03:12 PM (Wy1BU)

139 108. Kayleigh jumped all into the DeSsntis bandwagon last week when he announced. Which is not surprising considering who she works for. She has been a firm denier of election fraud and lectured Trump early on to accept he lost. Why should he say nothing when she is no longer supporting him?

Posted by: Jen the original at May 31, 2023 03:12 PM (vpE19)

140 no, it's "Democrats use money to attain power and money. and sometimes sex"

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 31, 2023 03:13 PM (B1FKF)

141 Who is going to stop this lawless administration from spending as much as they want anyhow?

The only debt limit is math. When debt gets over 2x GDP it starts getting hard to borrow more.

Posted by: These Fish Sticks Are Hard As Tits at May 31, 2023 03:13 PM (iOt02)

142 Trump vs. Desantis:

https://tinyurl.com/mv853pmk

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2023 03:13 PM (ek3eh)

143 heard an interesting interview on the radio yesterday re Ken Paxton

The interviewee was repub Texas State rep Steve Toth who voted against Paxton's impeachment. He said the 20 accusations were either laughable, untrue or totally meaningless. He believes the person most responsible for the Paxton hate is Karl Rove and it dates back the 2014 race for Texas Attorney General when Paxton beat Rove's candidate soundly. Rove had dropped another $400k into the race in the last week while his candidate Dan Branch was down 20 points and he has never gotten over it.

He cited several of the allegations and proved how stupid they were. It was the Texas Freedom Caucus members who voted against it.

Posted by: DanMan at May 31, 2023 03:13 PM (DB6tu)

144 Non-defense discretionary spending ($941B) is 15% of the total ($6.2T) 2023 budget. It's obscene that our politicians and media wring their hands over this debt ceiling nonsense like it means something. It's a bad reboot of a bad remake of a bad West Wing episode. Year after year after year again.

We are not a serious people.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2023 03:13 PM (k1Qly)

145 The national debt and the debt limit debates are perfect for pride month. They all want us to take it up the exhaust pipe

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 31, 2023 03:13 PM (N39Ws)

146 Ohhhh....I hate you. I'm not gonna be able to get that song out of my head now.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 03:09 PM (DRSnL)
........

*grins*

Posted by: wth at May 31, 2023 03:14 PM (v0R5T)

147 Or maybe Kayleigh doesn't realize who signs her checks.
Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:05 PM (Wgd+q)

She still works for Trump? I did not know that.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2023 03:14 PM (C1CZ4)

148 >>> 139 108. Kayleigh jumped all into the DeSsntis bandwagon last week when he announced. Which is not surprising considering who she works for. She has been a firm denier of election fraud and lectured Trump early on to accept he lost. Why should he say nothing when she is no longer supporting him?
Posted by: Jen the original at May 31, 2023 03:12 PM (vpE19)

I did not know that (or maybe I forgot).

Bonus points for using the term "denier".

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 03:14 PM (llON8)

149 104. And it has to include ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra Pelosi & her crew(s) AND Jade Sacker. For example:

AP, 1/15/'21 - “I was in the Capitol following John Sullivan as part of a documentary I have been producing for the past four months, which follows both him and his brother James,” Sullivan wrote in the email.

Watch: Key moments from new (Pelosi) footage of the January 6 Capitol attack, Clare Foran, CNN, October 14, 2022

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra & Jade, too. at May 31, 2023 03:14 PM (GshMh)

150 Fight the real enemy!

Joe has problems with using the non-acronym version of NOAA...

https://tinyurl.com/2p9c3s29
8 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:15 PM (Vwz3I)

151 Trump vs. Desantis:

https://tinyurl.com/mv853pmk
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2023 03:13 PM (ek3eh)

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So true.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 03:15 PM (DRSnL)

152 Looks like GBI is looking into Antifa's financials. I'm sure they're going to find some veeeery interesting info our FedBois are interested in hiding.

https://tinyurl.com/2kpkyvj4

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2023 03:15 PM (R38qh)

153 This is going to be a long *checks watch* Fuck. 17 months.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2023 03:15 PM (Vq2Tz)

154 Hey Jordan!

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2023 03:16 PM (ek3eh)

155 151 Trump vs. Desantis:

https://tinyurl.com/mv853pmk
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2023 03:13 PM (ek3eh)

=====

So true.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 03:15 PM (DRSnL)

This.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2023 03:16 PM (Vq2Tz)

156 149. Error - (Jade) Slacker wrote in the email.

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra & Jade, too. at May 31, 2023 03:16 PM (GshMh)

157 Just screw them all. At this point, I don't see why I should care about Republicans in DC. 90% of them range from useless (at best) to malign.

Now, here in NC, we have a reason to vote.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 31, 2023 03:16 PM (TgBWG)

158 >>> 142 Trump vs. Desantis:

https://tinyurl.com/mv853pmk
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2023 03:13 PM (ek3eh)

Heh.

If only we'd nominated a Quality, Electable Candidate!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 03:16 PM (llON8)

159 Hot Seats! Cold Sushi! Half-Baked Films!

Posted by: AMC Theaters, winning 'em over at May 31, 2023 03:16 PM (ivvNA)

160 > We left the salon with her hair cut in a nice smooth chin length bob. She looks awesome.

Nice!

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2023 03:16 PM (R38qh)

161 LOL Helena!

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2023 03:17 PM (ek3eh)

162 From the Guardian, no friend of Trump or Kayleigh:

Fox News has cut away from a briefing held by the White House press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany, during which she repeated Donald Trump’s refusal to accept defeat in the presidential election and doubled down on allegations of voter fraud, for which there is scant if any evidence.

https://tinyurl.com/y9ses2he

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:17 PM (eOEVl)

163 Hey SMH!

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 03:17 PM (DRSnL)

164 Trump vs. DeSantis:

https://tinyurl.com/mv853pmk
Posted by: SMH
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Great find, SMH.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:17 PM (Vwz3I)

165 Whoever does the parody account for A O-C is very funny, and Hooray!-LA Dodgers Pitcher just wrote a letter protesting the "Queers again Catholicism and Jesus" ie. The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence coming to the game to receive an award:

https://tinyurl.com/bdfs6xj8

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 31, 2023 03:17 PM (Keyt1)

166 Looks like GBI is looking into Antifa's financials. I'm sure they're going to find some veeeery interesting info our FedBois are interested in hiding.

https://tinyurl.com/2kpkyvj4


But something that's just an idea can't even have financials.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 31, 2023 03:17 PM (Bd6X8)

167 Freedom Caucus? More like Freedom Carcass!

Amirite??

Posted by: BurtTC at May 31, 2023 03:18 PM (nO2JE)

168 All I see is another Trump insider abandoning him . When everyone around you is an asshole it just may be you who is the asshole.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2023 03:18 PM (C1CZ4)

169 Fox News has cut away from a briefing held by the White House press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany, during which she repeated Donald Trump’s refusal to accept defeat in the presidential election and doubled down on allegations of voter fraud, for which there is scant if any evidence.

https://tinyurl.com/y9ses2he
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:17 PM (eOEVl)

*Snicker* I keep forgetting, they clearly aren't friends on opposite ends of the show.

Didn't RDS have an interview with Tres Dowdy? How did that go?

Posted by: trev006 at May 31, 2023 03:18 PM (FWpta)

170 > We left the salon with her hair cut in a nice smooth chin length bob. She looks awesome.

Nice!
Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2023 03:16 PM (R38qh)

======

Yes, although bummer about the purple highlights. That would've looked nice with jet black hair.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 03:18 PM (DRSnL)

171 Why should he say nothing when she is no longer supporting him?

Posted by: Jen the original at May 31, 2023 03:12 PM (vpE19)

Because it's convenient for people who support DeSantis to try to peel people away from Trump using strange attacks.

If Trump supporters got all huffy about things Trump says then they wouldn't be Trump supporters.

Do better.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:19 PM (VFjHu)

172 Ok the Taylor Swift thing got me to read about who Matty Healy is.

Apparently he's a soi boi who the FNM is trying to get to admit he's gay.

They harassed him so much he claimed he was open to kissing a guy but not having sex with one...which got the FNM in a bigger uproar claiming that's a clear sign of anti-gay hate.

Its almost comical.

That being said Swift should be forced to date Lena Dunham. She's earned it.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 31, 2023 03:19 PM (lc5cP)

173 Even DU morons (lowercase "m") can see through the failure theater.

The freedumb caucus doesn't want to stop the bill. They want to be seen as trying to stop it (and failing), so they can run for re-election in their districts about their selfless, gallant attempt to stop China and the Biden administration. Their nitwit supporters will buy whatever excuse the Freedumb Caucus sells them, and they'll get to keep getting their monthly social security and SNAP benefits while complaining about the big bad gummint.

Biden won't claim debt ceiling win, because he must play the owned lib. The CBO scores show that President Biden bested McCarthy badly in this deal but President Biden is not taking a victory lap until this bill is on his desk to be signed.

“Look, one of the things that I hear some of you guys saying is, ‘Why doesn’t Biden say what a good deal it is?’” Biden said on the South Lawn of the White House. “Why would Biden say what a good deal it is before the vote? You think that’s going to help me get it passed? No. That’s why you guys don’t bargain very well.....

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 31, 2023 03:19 PM (JCZqz)

174 Trump vs. Desantis:

https://tinyurl.com/mv853pmk


Trump's new scare ads are that DeSantis wanted to replace the IRS with a national sales tax, women and blacks hardest hit. Does he not know that's been a small-government dream for decades?

I know politics isn't beanbag, but Trump's statements and ads are just tone-deaf.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2023 03:19 PM (ZGrMX)

175
With unfunded liabilities included, likely over #300 trillion.

A real-world application of learning "musical chairs" in kindergarten ... with far more dire consequences.
Posted by: ShainS


It's been this way forever. When does forever stop?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2023 03:20 PM (63Dwl)

176 All of their heroes saw them as weak, cannon fodder. They’re just useful idiots for the current cultural revolution.
The real Commies hate them.

https://tinyurl.com/5ejnwjfm

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 31, 2023 03:20 PM (ek3eh)

177 Whoever does the parody account for A O-C is very funny, and Hooray!-LA Dodgers Pitcher just wrote a letter protesting the "Queers again Catholicism and Jesus" ie. The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence coming to the game to receive an award:

https://tinyurl.com/bdfs6xj8
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 31, 2023 03:17 PM (Keyt1)

=======

Huh. I thought it would be Kershaw.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 03:20 PM (DRSnL)

178 168 All I see is another Trump insider abandoning him . When everyone around you is an asshole it just may be you who is the asshole.
Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2023 03:18 PM (C1CZ4)

And how many have abandoned us?

Are you the crazy one?

Does it matter if everyone tells you that up is down and right is wrong?

I am not even talking about Trump here, but majoritarianism is another one that annoys the hell out of me.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2023 03:20 PM (Vq2Tz)

179 ...and Massie goes the way of so many others with promise.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2023 03:20 PM (GzxiE)

180 Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 31, 2023 03:12 PM (Wy1BU)

Sorry that you got hurt.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 31, 2023 03:21 PM (Keyt1)

181 I don’t give a flying fuck what Kayleigh or any other Fox News asshole has to say.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 31, 2023 03:21 PM (u73oe)

182 You need trillions in spending cuts just to get back to the bloated pre-COVID levels

And here we might be getting...1% reduction? Err...thanks guys.
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Well, at least the FBI gets its shiny new digs. So that's something.

Posted by: DaisyB at May 31, 2023 03:21 PM (AbL8c)

183 Wrote too late, last thread:

1619 Project on ABC and Hulu tonight, 8 - 11 pm. FFS

In the fall, Reparations Math may be coming to a school near you.

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra & Jade, too. at May 31, 2023 03:21 PM (GshMh)

184 >> Taylor Swift thing got me to read about who Matty Healy is.

>>Apparently he's a soi boi who the FNM is trying to get to admit he's gay.


Messenger Bags. Not. Even. Once.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2023 03:22 PM (GzxiE)

185 I know politics isn't beanbag, but Trump's statements and ads are just tone-deaf.

Agree. But the people defending him are religious in their unwillingness to say "maybe that wasn't a good idea". No, Trump must always be right.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:22 PM (eOEVl)

186 I have a modicum of respect for the Freedom Caucus, but their loud opposition reeks of failure theater. They may not even be in on it, but McCarthy knows how it will go.

Our government is worse than useless.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2023 03:22 PM (DU+/6)

187 Breaking911 @Breaking911 · 29m
NEW: McConnell speaks on debt deal: "Most of my members who have objections would like to do more of the things that are already in the bill. I think Speaker McCarthy should be congratulated on capturing a number of priorities."

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:22 PM (Vwz3I)

188 Democrats held off negotiating until now. Senate Republicans did nothing and seemed to be smoking dope the entire time. Now, that the country got placed under the gun, McCarthy became a minority partner where the the two other partners with 1/3 ownership interests controlled the minority.
Republicans expect it to be Morning in America after making one deal. But it is a constant battle against Democrat Insurrectionists.

Posted by: william ferrin at May 31, 2023 03:22 PM (ACYeB)

189 Where the hell does that annoying “politics ain’t/isn’t beanbag” expression come from?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2023 03:22 PM (mw8fy)

190 "Aside from that, how was the play Mrs. Luntz?"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 31, 2023 03:22 PM (RIvkX)

191 Bonus points for using the term "denier".
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 03:14 PM (llON

I too am an election denier. I deny what we do is hold elections.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 31, 2023 03:22 PM (nO2JE)

192 If Trump supporters got all huffy about things Trump says then they wouldn't be Trump supporters.


You said it.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:23 PM (eOEVl)

193 >> I don’t give a flying fuck what Kayleigh ... has to say.


Not unless it is 10 years ago.

...and she was on a Sybian.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2023 03:23 PM (GzxiE)

194 The 2024 omnibus bill increases spending by 100%, but because it is an ombibus, the debt deal kicks in and will cut 1%. Fight for you!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 31, 2023 03:23 PM (slgIg)

195 All I see is another Trump insider abandoning him . When everyone around you is an asshole it just may be you who is the asshole.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2023 03:18 PM (C1CZ4)

She's entrenched at Fox but I guess we'll conveniently ignore that?

Wait until people "abandon" your guy due to money, greed, blackmail and threats and Lord knows what else. And if you ask why they haven't done so yet, then I know you're not being serious.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:23 PM (cWtPc)

196 If Cruz said no one negotiating with Sundowner I believe him, the puppet gets no votes

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2023 03:23 PM (xhxe8)

197 Massie wrote on Tuesday, "I've been in Congress for a decade and this is the first real bill that cuts spending. It also includes an automatic 1% cut to spending on January 1 if Congress doesn't pass the 12 appropriations bills."
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I'd be in favor of a constitutional amendment that dictates that Every 100 years, the budget must shrink - actual, year-over-year shrink - by 2.5% for year for 25 years.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2023 03:23 PM (DU+/6)

198 Yes, although bummer about the purple highlights. That would've looked nice with jet black hair.
Posted by: Jordan61

Stylist suggested clip ins. They come in a wide assortment of colors and the clips can be easily concealed. No permanent color or serious damage to her hair.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 31, 2023 03:23 PM (Wy1BU)

199 Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2023 03:20 PM (Vq2Tz)

That's called the exception. I acknowledge exceptions but judge on the weight of all the evidence.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2023 03:23 PM (C1CZ4)

200 1619 Project on ABC and Hulu tonight, 8 - 11 pm. FFS

In the fall, Reparations Math may be coming to a school near you.

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra & Jade, too. at May 31, 2023 03:21 PM (GshMh)


They're going to be talking about it for three hours straight??? That should be a ratings bonanza.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 31, 2023 03:23 PM (jGGMD)

201 Over the next 10,000 years, this bill trims the debt by as much as $1 trillion!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 31, 2023 03:23 PM (slgIg)

202 Or both Houses will pass a national sales tax and keep the IRS and the income tax intact??

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:24 PM (Vwz3I)

203 Sen. @BasedMikeLee slams proposed budget deal:

"If you're a Republican member of the House or the Senate and you're thinking about voting for this, come talk to me... Read through it. You'll see this bill does not do what it claims it does. This juice is not worth the squeeze"

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"The juice ain't worth the squeeze" describes the life of every taxpayer living under this government.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2023 03:24 PM (DU+/6)

204 174 "Trump vs. Desantis:

https://tinyurl.com/mv853pmk"

Trump's new scare ads are that DeSantis wanted to replace the IRS with a national sales tax, women and blacks hardest hit. Does he not know that's been a small-government dream for decades?

I know politics isn't beanbag, but Trump's statements and ads are just tone-deaf.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2023 03:19 PM (ZGrMX)

He campaigns for different demographics, hence his statements on Social Security in 2016. Remember a lot of his voters are ex-Dems or historical Dem voters(the pre-Woke blue collar types).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 31, 2023 03:24 PM (eYoxG)

205 Our government is worse than useless.

Every western country is like this now. We were talking about an Irish(?) censorship law that has 90% support in their legislature and...a 25% level of support among the voters.

Now that's a load of "sacred democracy" isn't it?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 31, 2023 03:24 PM (lc5cP)

206 Once Kayleigh started working for Fox , the fraud denials started. The quote from the Guardian was when Trump was still in the White House and was working in the administration. She started working for Fox later in the summer of 2020 after leaving the White House when the Biden administration began in January.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 31, 2023 03:24 PM (vpE19)

207 The good news is that next year's budget will include spending cuts.

So we have that going for us, which is nice.

Posted by: a.moron at May 31, 2023 03:24 PM (tu3iY)

208 ‘Why doesn’t Biden say what a good deal it is?’” Biden said on the South Lawn of the White House. “Why would Biden say what a good deal it is before the vote? You think that’s going to help me get it passed? No. That’s why you guys don’t bargain very well.....

As if this saying this isn't exactly like saying "It's a great deal!"

Posted by: spindrift at May 31, 2023 03:25 PM (ivvNA)

209 Breaking911 @Breaking911 · 1h
BREAKING: Gov. McMaster sending SC National Guard troops to southern border at the request of Texas Governor Greg Abbott

“The safety and security of South Carolinians require that we stop the drug cartels, criminals, and terrorists from entering our country to peddle their poison,” McMaster said.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:25 PM (Vwz3I)

210 RINOs = Kabuki Theater Stage Managers

Posted by: PenzanceStreet at May 31, 2023 03:25 PM (ZYvOS)

211 Trump's new scare ads are that DeSantis wanted to replace the IRS with a national sales tax, women and blacks hardest hit. Does he not know that's been a small-government dream for decades?

Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2023 03:19 PM (ZGrMX)

... I'm sure the Freedom Caucus is all over it, but when normal Americans hear about a sales tax hike they start reaching for guns. RDS might try dissociating from the idea, but who knows? One real strange hill to stand on in 2024.

Posted by: trev006 at May 31, 2023 03:25 PM (FWpta)

212 I also think he conceded too much: the debt ceiling is raised right away, so Biden has no worry for the next 2 years. Republicans are neutralized.
On the other hand, reining in spending is just a promise, which will be renegotiated when the time comes.
Probably Democrats will try (and succeed) to pass some spending bills that somehow won't count against the limit. Republicans will be glad to compromise again when everyone will no longer care.
Who will remember, except for a few masochistic people who follow such news? How will the public even know that the deal was broken? The budget is complicated and they'll find a plausibly deniable way.
Few people care about government spending enough to do their own research and of course Republicans won't remind people of their (willing) failure. Nobody will lose elections because of it. The situation is under control.
It's a shell game.

Posted by: PG at May 31, 2023 03:25 PM (84jHt)

213 You said it.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:23 PM (eOEVl)

What was Trump's big "attack" on Kayleigh again?

Because it used to be only the Left who would allude to what Trump said without actually quoting it.

I mean Trump can get very very nasty without even blinking. How nasty did he get with "loyal" Kayleigh who works for Foxweiser?

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:26 PM (cWtPc)

214 Or both Houses will pass a national sales tax and keep the IRS and the income tax intact??
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:24 PM (Vwz3I)
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Of course. I would only support a national sales tax if it came along with a constitutional amendment establishing it, setting a maximum rate (I would think 10% should be satisfactory), outlawing all other domestic taxes, and explicitly stating that the tax applies only to new goods and services.

Which will never happen. So no, I don't support a national sales tax because I know how these people operate.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2023 03:26 PM (DU+/6)

215 We are not allowed to acknowledge vote fraud or any serious attempt to fix it, but sure lets keep arguing over the color of Trumps underpants.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 31, 2023 03:26 PM (slgIg)

216 Does it matter if everyone tells you that up is down and right is wrong?

I am not even talking about Trump here, but majoritarianism is another one that annoys the hell out of me.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Most people want the comfort of validation for their own beliefs and for that reason you get projection of what other people should believe and feel.

If you can dig it up, H. Beam Piper has a short story called Naudsonce that once applied to contemporary politics or society, you will never forget. Think Project Gutenberg has it.

Posted by: whig at May 31, 2023 03:26 PM (wUSgb)

217 >>> 204 174 "Trump vs. Desantis:

https://tinyurl.com/mv853pmk"

Trump's new scare ads are that DeSantis wanted to replace the IRS with a national sales tax, women and blacks hardest hit. Does he not know that's been a small-government dream for decades?

I know politics isn't beanbag, but Trump's statements and ads are just tone-deaf.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2023 03:19 PM (ZGrMX)

He campaigns for different demographics, hence his statements on Social Security in 2016. Remember a lot of his voters are ex-Dems or historical Dem voters(the pre-Woke blue collar types).
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 31, 2023 03:24 PM (eYoxG)

Meh, he should try to convince people who are skeptical that it's a better deal for them.

But that isn't the real problem.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 03:26 PM (llON8)

218 95 It's not going to make a difference DJT or DeSantis, both are going to be treated the same by the Democrats Propaganda Ministry or the Marxists Vote fraud.
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2023 03:00 PM (xhxe

100% True

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra & Jade, too. at May 31, 2023 03:26 PM (GshMh)

219 199 Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2023 03:20 PM (Vq2Tz)

That's called the exception. I acknowledge exceptions but judge on the weight of all the evidence.
Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2023 03:23 PM (C1CZ4)

It's profitable to backstab Trump as he doesn't have a cushy retirement plan or sinecures for people who are exiting.

Clinton on the other hand does.

It's just self-interest, not something personal. Iirc she was anti-Trump before she was pro-Trump. She'll flip again if it's to her benefit, that's just how politics works.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 31, 2023 03:26 PM (eYoxG)

220 Now that's a load of "sacred democracy" isn't it?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 31, 2023 03:24 PM (lc5cP)

Oligarchy and Patronage.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 31, 2023 03:26 PM (Vq2Tz)

221 Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:23 PM (cWtPc)

I'm not ignoring anything. She's just another person praised here endlessly that is now persona non grata because Trump dumped on her because she's not sucking his dick.

Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2023 03:27 PM (C1CZ4)

222 What was Trump's big "attack" on Kayleigh again?

Because it used to be only the Left who would allude to what Trump said without actually quoting it.


I gave you the f***ing link. Read it.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:27 PM (eOEVl)

223 > Where the hell does that annoying “politics ain’t/isn’t beanbag” expression come from?

A 19th century author called Finley Peter Dunne. One of his characters used the phrase.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2023 03:27 PM (R38qh)

224 Yes, Biden delegated negotiating to someone else weeks ago. I posted a twatter link here about it from one of the news aggregators.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:27 PM (Vwz3I)

225 >>> 214 Or both Houses will pass a national sales tax and keep the IRS and the income tax intact??
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:24 PM (Vwz3I)
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Of course. I would only support a national sales tax if it came along with a constitutional amendment establishing it, setting a maximum rate (I would think 10% should be satisfactory), outlawing all other domestic taxes, and explicitly stating that the tax applies only to new goods and services.

Which will never happen. So no, I don't support a national sales tax because I know how these people operate.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2023 03:26 PM (DU+/6)

That too!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 03:27 PM (llON8)

226 Agree. But the people defending him are religious in their unwillingness to say "maybe that wasn't a good idea". No, Trump must always be right.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:22 PM (eOEVl)

Yeah, how about that Operation Warp Speed that gave us the death vexxes, Trumpy? How about the J6 people jailed for trespassing, Trumpy? Hard pass. Won't matter anyway my vote for prezzy.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 31, 2023 03:27 PM (XxKgh)

227 Who will remember, except for a few masochistic people who follow such news? How will the public even know that the deal was broken? The budget is complicated and they'll find a plausibly deniable way.
Few people care about government spending enough to do their own research and of course Republicans won't remind people of their (willing) failure. Nobody will lose elections because of it. The situation is under control.
It's a shell game.
Posted by: PG at May 31, 2023 03:25 PM (84jHt)
++++
Failure theater is a finely-honed skill.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2023 03:27 PM (DU+/6)

228 NEW: McConnell speaks on debt deal: "Most of my members who have objections would like to do more of the things that are already in the bill. I think Speaker McCarthy should be congratulated on capturing a number of priorities."
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:22 PM (Vwz3I)

My members... what a filthy disgusting pig he is. I hope he's in hell soon.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 31, 2023 03:28 PM (nO2JE)

229 >>> 215 We are not allowed to acknowledge vote fraud or any serious attempt to fix it, but sure lets keep arguing over the color of Trumps underpants.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 31, 2023 03:26 PM (slgIg)

Blue! ...no, yellow!

AIEEEEEEE!!!!!

Posted by: guy on the bridge at May 31, 2023 03:28 PM (llON8)

230 I wouldn't take any Dem votes for granted. When the rules package passed for the debt relief celing, the vote was 7-6. Not a single Dem vote FOR the rules. Several Republicans voted with the Dems.

Posted by: mrp at May 31, 2023 03:28 PM (rj6Yv)

231 Most people want the comfort of validation for their own beliefs and for that reason you get projection of what other people should believe and feel.


There was a study recently where they brought in people from the street and showed them a page of lines of various lengths and asked them to name the longest. And...as you might imagine with such an easy task they got it all right.

Then they had them do it as a group and added ringers to claim that one of the shorter lines was in fact the longest. And...most of the real volunteers went along with it and claimed the same.

They asked the real volunteers later why they picked what they knew was NOT the longest line and they said basically, they didn't want to disagree with the group even if the group was clearly wrong.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 31, 2023 03:29 PM (lc5cP)

232 Stylist suggested clip ins. They come in a wide assortment of colors and the clips can be easily concealed. No permanent color or serious damage to her hair.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 31, 2023 03:23 PM (Wy1BU)

=======

I forgot about those. My niece has them.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 03:29 PM (DRSnL)

233 187 Breaking911 @Breaking911 · 29m
NEW: McConnell speaks on debt deal: "Most of my members who have objections would like to do more of the things that are already in the bill. I think Speaker McCarthy should be congratulated on capturing a number of priorities."

***

"We were speeding the country off a cliff at 130 miles an hour but thanks to the Herculean efforts of Speaker McCarthy we've slowed that down to 127."



Posted by: Azathoth at May 31, 2023 03:29 PM (wb1YC)

234 What was Trump's big "attack" on Kayleigh again?

Because it used to be only the Left who would allude to what Trump said without actually quoting it.

I mean Trump can get very very nasty without even blinking. How nasty did he get with "loyal" Kayleigh who works for Foxweiser?
Posted by: ...
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Up thread at the very beginning, there is a link.

Over polling number quoted on air being incorrect, no biggie.

Posted by: whig at May 31, 2023 03:29 PM (wUSgb)

235 I gave you the f***ing link. Read it.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:27 PM (eOEVl)

The only links I click on here are JJ and occasionally Mannix and Fen.

It would have taken you less time to quote what offended you so much than this "read the link" stuff. I will look when I have time. For now it's back to Scottish redheads.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:29 PM (cWtPc)

236 De Santis better watch out.

I hear Chris Christie loves meatballs.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2023 03:29 PM (mw8fy)

237 Yeah, how about that Operation Warp Speed that gave us the death vexxes, Trumpy? How about the J6 people jailed for trespassing, Trumpy? Hard pass. Won't matter anyway my vote for prezzy.

?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:29 PM (eOEVl)

238 I don't pretend to know a thing about McEnany's loyalties. If she genuinely has defected from Trump to DeSantis, or to the Fox corporate empire, then no, I would not say Trump has an obligation to play nice.

But we are talking about a woman who took a serious amount of flak defending Trump during his presidency, and I'd like to think that for old times' sake, his tweets about her would be at least somewhat civil.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 31, 2023 03:29 PM (jGGMD)

239 209 Gov. McMaster sending SC National Guard troops to southern border at the request of Texas Governor Greg Abbott
“The safety and security of South Carolinians require that we stop the drug cartels, criminals, and terrorists from entering our country to peddle their poison,” McMaster said.


That could apply to the border with GA as well.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at May 31, 2023 03:29 PM (t4BDZ)

240 Meh, he should try to convince people who are skeptical that it's a better deal for them.

But that isn't the real problem.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 03:26 PM (llON

Even Reagan mostly stuck to persuading people towards normalcy, as opposed to think tank ideas. If he came up with a national sales tax, it wouldn't matter what other sweeteners came with it. He might not have lost the 1980 election, but he might not have won either.

Donald Trump mostly did a good job because he was about normalcy. Fairer trade, lower taxes, sane cultural policy, ending Roe. Not six week abortion bans and sales taxes.

Posted by: trev006 at May 31, 2023 03:29 PM (FWpta)

241 You guys are getting spun.

Posted by: Boy George at May 31, 2023 03:30 PM (zLwlF)

242 A national sales tax would be much better then the national income tax - its fairer, its easier to follow, its harder to cheat, and its easy to understand.

But...only if the income tax is also gotten rid of or we end up with both.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 31, 2023 03:30 PM (lc5cP)

243 Chin length bob? Must make driving difficult, shoulda went with bangs.

Posted by: wth at May 31, 2023 03:30 PM (v0R5T)

244 I don't pretend to know a thing about McEnany's loyalties. If she genuinely has defected from Trump to DeSantis, or to the Fox corporate empire, then no, I would not say Trump has an obligation to play nice.

But we are talking about a woman who took a serious amount of flak defending Trump during his presidency, and I'd like to think that for old times' sake, his tweets about her would be at least somewhat civil.


More to the point, not one of the OTers has pointed out what KM said that was wrong. All they do is throw mud.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:30 PM (eOEVl)

245 196 If Cruz said no one negotiating with Sundowner I believe him, the puppet gets no votes
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2023 03:23 PM

No, DU is tossing this cartoon around showing how Biden trumped the Republicans!
https://tinyurl.com/4hxubc7y

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 31, 2023 03:30 PM (JCZqz)

246 >>> 216

--------
Most people want the comfort of validation for their own beliefs and for that reason you get projection of what other people should believe and feel.

If you can dig it up, H. Beam Piper has a short story called Naudsonce that once applied to contemporary politics or society, you will never forget. Think Project Gutenberg has it.
Posted by: whig at May 31, 2023 03:26 PM (wUSgb)

Why yes they do:
https://is.gd/I7C8rJ

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 03:30 PM (llON8)

247 I'm not ignoring anything. She's just another person praised here endlessly that is now persona non grata because Trump dumped on her because she's not sucking his dick.

All I know is I've been reading the HQ since 2004 and there are a lot of people I've never heard of before trying to stir shit on Trump vs. DeSantis. At this rate I'm gonna write in Kamala for maximum Let It All Burn.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2023 03:30 PM (ZGrMX)

248 There was a study recently where they brought in people from the street and showed them a page of lines of various lengths and asked them to name the longest. And...as you might imagine with such an easy task they got it all right.

Then they had them do it as a group and added ringers to claim that one of the shorter lines was in fact the longest. And...most of the real volunteers went along with it and claimed the same.

They asked the real volunteers later why they picked what they knew was NOT the longest line and they said basically, they didn't want to disagree with the group even if the group was clearly wrong.
Posted by: 18-1
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Yes, I am quite often the killjoy in meetings quite often because I simply do not care whether my opinions or facts are inconvenient.

Then again, I prefer my own company to others for the most part.

Posted by: whig at May 31, 2023 03:31 PM (wUSgb)

249 There all already federal taxes on certain utilities, i.e.,

The federal tax rate on wireless service (called the USF, or Universal Service Fund) is 6.64%. (On top of your state tax.)

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra & Jade, too. at May 31, 2023 03:31 PM (GshMh)

250 More to the point, not one of the OTers has pointed out what KM said that was wrong. All they do is throw mud.

I choose to think it's mud.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:32 PM (eOEVl)

251 A national sales tax would be much better then the national income tax - its fairer, its easier to follow, its harder to cheat, and its easy to understand.

It also has the property that it's automatically small-p progressive. Rich people buying expensive things pay more, and there's no way to dodge it.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2023 03:32 PM (ZGrMX)

252 >>> No, DU is tossing this cartoon around showing how Biden trumped the Republicans!
https://tinyurl.com/4hxubc7y

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 31, 2023 03:30 PM (JCZqz)

I was just about to comment about your first entry that those dolts think the parsnip is playing 3D chess. I mean, I am sure he is just as smart as they are though.

Posted by: DJ at May 31, 2023 03:32 PM (H5y4s)

253 Yeah, vote against the debt ceiling bill, watch the financial markets tank, and, the cherry on top, make a vacate the chair motion to remove the Speaker. Nihilists. At least Mike Pence supports the Freedom Caucus.

Posted by: mrp at May 31, 2023 03:33 PM (rj6Yv)

254 In the end. there are no winners in this debacle. Everyone is pointing to the congress person next to them and blaming them.
Lets hope after the next election, people wake up and vote in some new people. (who probably do the same as the last bunch) But I can always hope!

Posted by: Colin at May 31, 2023 03:33 PM (mLPfl)

255 I gave you the f***ing link. Read it.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:27 PM (eOEVl)

Hah.

Posted by: trev006 at May 31, 2023 03:33 PM (FWpta)

256 But we are talking about a woman who took a serious amount of flak defending Trump during his presidency, and I'd like to think that for old times' sake, his tweets about her would be at least somewhat civil.
Posted by: Dr. T
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Meh, most people are in politics for themselves and their paycheck. As Truman said, if you want loyalty in DC, get a dog.

Posted by: whig at May 31, 2023 03:33 PM (wUSgb)

257 I don't give a fuck about the "deal" nearly as much as I care about the fact that Republicans are content to pretend they have "negotiated" with Creepy Von Shower McMushbrain.

What a fucking insult.
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Right?

Like they sat in a room on opposite sides of the table, shouting and arguing back and forth until they agreed.

Since it's our money, how come we were not invited to watch?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 31, 2023 03:33 PM (mt8I3)

258 221 Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:23 PM (cWtPc)

I'm not ignoring anything. She's just another person praised here endlessly that is now persona non grata because Trump dumped on her because she's not sucking his dick.
Posted by: polynikes at May 31, 2023 03:27 PM (C1CZ4)

She's just a talking head. Let alone politicians, people should be wary of falling in love with the minions.

We don't really need to wax eloquent about Megyn Kelly's redemption arc or whatever.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 31, 2023 03:33 PM (eYoxG)

259 That too!!
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Ask me how I know!

[Although to be fair our Red Tories didn't campaign on replacing the income tax with the Gouge & Screw Tax, er, Goods & Services Tax.]

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:33 PM (Vwz3I)

260 Some congress woman said McCarthy got out smarted by a guy who cant find his pants...
lol... pretty funny, and true
Posted by: Haywood

Luntz's McDunce drops trou again

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at May 31, 2023 03:33 PM (IhEo7)

261 So, about that Civil War…

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2023 03:33 PM (mw8fy)

262 The only links I click on here are JJ and occasionally Mannix and Fen.

It would have taken you less time to quote what offended you so much than this "read the link" stuff.


Then perhaps you should stop opining on topics about which you know nothing.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:34 PM (eOEVl)

263 It's obvious to me that Massie has been bought. I wonder what he got? Kickbacks? Book deal? Under-age sex worker?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 31, 2023 03:34 PM (to8pj)

264 Is it all bad? No, just mostly.

___

It's a shit sandwich. But with a little salt and pepper.

Posted by: Montec at May 31, 2023 03:34 PM (OalnH)

265 Donald Trump mostly did a good job because he was about normalcy.

Right, which is why the media/DNC complex's winning strategy was to spin up as much abnormality as possible and stick him with it.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2023 03:35 PM (ZGrMX)

266 "We were speeding the country off a cliff at 130 miles an hour but thanks to the Herculean efforts of Speaker McCarthy we've slowed that down to 127."

Posted by: Azathoth at May 31, 2023 03:29 PM (wb1YC)
........

They just need a little more time to siphon off their cut.

Posted by: wth at May 31, 2023 03:35 PM (v0R5T)

267 261 So, about that Civil War…
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2023 03:33 PM (mw8fy)

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The roses had it comin'!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:35 PM (LvTSG)

268 More to the point, not one of the OTers has pointed out what KM said that was wrong. All they do is throw mud.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:30 PM (eOEVl)


If I'm playing devil's advocate....if McEnany misreported the poll numbers, and *if* there was reason to think she had done so deliberately, to understate the level of support for Trump, then I can kinda sorta see why he reacted.

But regardless, it was a pointless, gratuitous thing to do, as most people will only remember her as his press secretary and see it as a cheap shot on his part. Putting aside the Trump v DeSantis question, there was just no tangible political advantage to be wrung from this.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 31, 2023 03:35 PM (jGGMD)

269 Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2023 03:30 PM (ZGrMX)


Yes, there certainly are.

Posted by: Ann at May 31, 2023 03:35 PM (ilNea)

270 Then perhaps you should stop opining on topics about which you know nothing.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:34 PM (eOEVl)


Sir, this is the internet

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at May 31, 2023 03:36 PM (t4BDZ)

271 I love Kayleigh and have since her Red Eye days. I don't want to see Trump attack her. But there is attacking and there is attacking and then there is attacking in kind.

What people don't grasp is that I despise ALL elected Republicans. I tolerate/like Trump because he gave us a three year break from the madness and did so almost single handedly. He kept the SC from falling into the hands of people who will ban speech, religion and guns before taking their first breath in a robe.

Someone doesn't get that, it's not my problem. Fuck Ron DeSantis until he proves he's not a traitor like every other Republican fuck.

I mean DeSantis people act as if the only traitors were the ones in Trump's sphere! Like they haven't ALL shivved us eventually. If Ron is a savior and not a convenient party splitter it will come out in the wash.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:36 PM (y/SMG)

272 If I'm playing devil's advocate....if McEnany misreported the poll numbers, and *if* there was reason to think she had done so deliberately, to understate the level of support for Trump, then I can kinda sorta see why he reacted.

But regardless, it was a pointless, gratuitous thing to do, as most people will only remember her as his press secretary and see it as a cheap shot on his part. Putting aside the Trump v DeSantis question, there was just no tangible political advantage to be wrung from this.


Concur.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:36 PM (eOEVl)

273 Every. Incumbent. Out.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 31, 2023 03:36 PM (BqlcT)

274 Yeah, vote against the debt ceiling bill, watch the financial markets tank, and, the cherry on top, make a vacate the chair motion to remove the Speaker. Nihilists. At least Mike Pence supports the Freedom Caucus.
Posted by: mrp at May 31, 2023 03:33 PM (rj6Yv)
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None of that would be bad news. A dose of reality and pain right now would be better than catastrophic collapse later.

But we'll get collapse, of course. That is the way it usually goes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2023 03:36 PM (DU+/6)

275 235 The only links I click on here are JJ and occasionally Mannix and Fen.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:29 PM (cWtPc)

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The Daily Daddario knows that ... won't see her in her new getup, and she's disappointed that all of her effort went to nothing:

https://is.gd/3jD08e

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:36 PM (LvTSG)

276 "Failure theater is a finely-honed skill."

I'd rather have Biden ride a unicycle dressed as a clown in exchange for raising the debt ceiling. That would be funnier than the current solemn promises and reassurances. *This* is not funny.

If the deal is for two years, then some number of current congresspeople cannot be held responsible for it, since their term is for 2 years also. The rest can blame those who did not get reelected. Surely such thoughts have occurred to at least some of them.

Posted by: PG at May 31, 2023 03:37 PM (84jHt)

277 Then perhaps you should stop opining on topics about which you know nothing.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:34 PM (eOEVl)


I asked you how nasty he got with Kayleigh. It was a simple question. You answered with "read the link" like it's my job to figure out what offends you.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:37 PM (y/SMG)

278 Sundowner was supposed to be in Delaware all long weekend

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2023 03:37 PM (xhxe8)

279 All I know is I've been reading the HQ since 2004 and there are a lot of people I've never heard of before trying to stir shit on Trump vs. DeSantis. At this rate I'm gonna write in Kamala for maximum Let It All Burn.
Posted by: Ian S.
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Probably bots whether they are flesh and blood following a campaign approved script or AI generated which are getting harder to spot. Most political consultants hire out this task to content farms abroad. Some are domestic supporters of one candidate or the other and cite crap like Conservative Media TM content, Mass Media garbage, or PR talking point releases from campaigns.


Posted by: whig at May 31, 2023 03:37 PM (wUSgb)

280 At some point even ardent Trumpians have to admit his mood swings are getting worse, likely intentional to stay on top of the news cycle, but worrying nonetheless. I will rationally cast my vote for him over Biden, but Jebus, I didn't think we would relive Humphrey/Nixon so quickly.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 31, 2023 03:37 PM (oWBc3)

281 Right, which is why the media/DNC complex's winning strategy was to spin up as much abnormality as possible and stick him with it.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2023 03:35 PM (ZGrMX)

They certainly tried, but in that case mail-in fraud would have been sufficient to steal the election, instead of 2AM fraud.

In terms of surviving everything but obvious kangaroo courts, I've never seen anything like it. Even Reagan had Iran-Contra.

Posted by: trev006 at May 31, 2023 03:37 PM (FWpta)

282 Fuck Ron DeSantis until he proves he's not a traitor like every other Republican fuck.

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If her has yet to prove himself to you after 4+ years, he never will.

Posted by: Montec at May 31, 2023 03:38 PM (OalnH)

283
Posted by: SMOD at May 31, 2023 03:03 PM (RHGPo)

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I seriously wonder what her next step is. Chesa Boudin just got a plum gig at UC Berkeley's law school, heading up some new office to study the impact of poverty and racism on justice.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 31, 2023 03:38 PM (lCaJd)

284 @174: "Trump's new scare ads are that DeSantis wanted to replace the IRS with a national sales tax, women and blacks hardest hit."

The video ad shows the word "replace" but doesn't say it in voiceover, and online still image ads omitted the word completely, which gives impression that a national sales tax was in addition to current income taxes. Trump's tweets on Truth and reposted on Twitter by his campaign never use the word "replace" either. They were pushing the same scare tactic / sleight of hand just a few hours ago today.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2023 03:38 PM (k1Qly)

285 I asked you how nasty he got with Kayleigh. It was a simple question. You answered with "read the link" like it's my job to figure out what offends you.

It's not my job to educate you, particularly when I gave you the means to do it yourself.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:38 PM (eOEVl)

286 282 Fuck Ron DeSantis until he proves he's not a traitor like every other Republican fuck.

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If her has yet to prove himself to you after 4+ years, he never will.
Posted by: Montec at May 31, 2023 03:38 PM (OalnH)

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And yet the Nickelback question hangs over it all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:38 PM (LvTSG)

287 If the deal is for two years, then some number of current congresspeople cannot be held responsible for it, since their term is for 2 years also. The rest can blame those who did not get reelected. Surely such thoughts have occurred to at least some of them.
Posted by: PG at May 31, 2023 03:37 PM (84jHt)
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Surely.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2023 03:39 PM (DU+/6)

288 More to the point, not one of the OTers has pointed out what KM said that was wrong. All they do is throw mud.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:30 PM (eOEVl)

—————

Which commenters are you referring to when you say OTers? Serious question.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 31, 2023 03:39 PM (u73oe)

289 In the legal interest of the rule of completion, here is the tweet.

"Kayleigh “Milktoast”McEnany just gave out the wrong poll numbers on FoxNews. I am 34 points up on DeSanctimonious, not 25 up. While 25 is great, it’s not 34. She knew the number was corrected upwards by the group that did the poll. The RINOS & Globalists can have her. FoxNews should only use REAL Stars!!!"

Posted by: whig at May 31, 2023 03:39 PM (wUSgb)

290 Hey, Ace and Garrett, over at Insty they’re advertising the Crocs Unisex-Adult Classic Clog.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2023 03:39 PM (mw8fy)

291 Breaking911 @Breaking911 · 14m
REPORTER: “What do you say to the majority of Americans who believe that the President himself is corrupt?”

KIRBY: “Wow…” [andy: whispered; shakes head; waits five seconds] The President has spoken to this. The President has spoken to this.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:39 PM (Vwz3I)

292 Jebus, I didn't think we would relive Humphrey/Nixon so quickly.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 31, 2023 03:37 PM (oWBc3)

It worked out for Nixon- for a while, anyways. And really, the amazing part was no LBJ.

Posted by: trev006 at May 31, 2023 03:39 PM (FWpta)

293 __

If her has yet to prove himself to you after 4+ years, he never will.
Posted by: Montec at May 31, 2023 03:38 PM (OalnH)



He transitioned?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 31, 2023 03:39 PM (Zz0t1)

294 Biden accuser Reade defects to Russia.

WTH? Stupid, imho.

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra & Jade, too. at May 31, 2023 03:40 PM (GshMh)

295 Which commenters are you referring to when you say OTers? Serious question.

Those with whom it's impossible to have a rational discussion, because Trump is always right. It really is a religion.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:40 PM (eOEVl)

296 Vancouver, WA police just smoked an armed robber.

https://tinyurl.com/54ebkep9

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2023 03:40 PM (R38qh)

297
I am an OTer!

Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at May 31, 2023 03:41 PM (R06od)

298 270 Then perhaps you should stop opining on topics about which you know nothing.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:34 PM (eOEVl)

Sir, this is the internet
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at May 31, 2023 03:36 PM

How dare you, sir! They don't just call us "Morons" for nothing!

Posted by: OG Moron at May 31, 2023 03:41 PM (JCZqz)

299 Hey, Ace and Garrett, over at Insty they’re advertising the Crocs Unisex-Adult Classic Clog.

If they throw in a Vespa and some messenger bags it would truly be the Ace and Garrett Special.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2023 03:41 PM (ZGrMX)

300 Those with whom it's impossible to have a rational discussion, because Trump is always right. It really is a religion.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:40 PM (eOEVl)

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Again, which ones?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 31, 2023 03:41 PM (u73oe)

301 270 Then perhaps you should stop opining on topics about which you know nothing.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:34 PM (eOEVl)

Sir, this is the internet
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at May 31, 2023 03:36 PM

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*nervously waits until everyone discovers that TJM doesn't know anything about movies*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:41 PM (LvTSG)

302 None of that would be bad news. A dose of reality and pain right now would be better than catastrophic collapse later.

But we'll get collapse, of course. That is the way it usually goes.

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A "dose of reality and pain". My parents barely made it through the Depression. A catastrophic collapse this time around would make the Depression look like a pleasant dream.

Posted by: mrp at May 31, 2023 03:42 PM (rj6Yv)

303 83 this is like h w bush giving the dems a tax hike in return for spending cuts that we somehow never got.

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Every grand bargain is like that. Dems get what they want today. Republicans get what they want sometime in the future and it never actually happens.

Posted by: Montec at May 31, 2023 03:42 PM (OalnH)

304 > Which commenters are you referring to when you say OTers? Serious question.

Those bastards that are always off topic.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2023 03:42 PM (R38qh)

305 200. They're going to be talking about it for three hours straight??? That should be a ratings bonanza.
Posted by: Dr. T

Warming us up for what's coming.

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra & Jade, too. at May 31, 2023 03:42 PM (GshMh)

306
wait
That is not the proper definition of an OTer

Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at May 31, 2023 03:42 PM (R06od)

307 296 Vancouver, WA police just smoked an armed robber.

https://tinyurl.com/54ebkep9
Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2023 03:40 PM (R38qh)


Well it is World No Tobacco day and sometimes you've just got to make due with resources at hand.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 31, 2023 03:43 PM (uNET+)

308 301 270 Then perhaps you should stop opining on topics about which you know nothing.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:34 PM (eOEVl)

Sir, this is the internet
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at May 31, 2023 03:36 PM

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*nervously waits until everyone discovers that TJM doesn't know anything about movies*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:41 PM (LvTSG)

Maybe it'd help if you watched some.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 31, 2023 03:43 PM (eYoxG)

309 Again, which ones?

trev006 for one.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:43 PM (eOEVl)

310 He transitioned?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 31, 2023 03:39 PM (Zz0t1)

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Yes. He's Rhonda Sanchez.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 03:43 PM (DRSnL)

311 308 *nervously waits until everyone discovers that TJM doesn't know anything about movies*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:41 PM (LvTSG)

Maybe it'd help if you watched some.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 31, 2023 03:43 PM (eYoxG)

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Instead of just getting my hot takes from r/movies?

What are we? Animals?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:43 PM (LvTSG)

312 Nobody believes these a**holes anymore. They're just serial liars. We need to go to the parliamentary system where you just kick out the entire government and start over.

Posted by: Kurtz at May 31, 2023 03:44 PM (v2Qwo)

313 A "dose of reality and pain". My parents barely made it through the Depression. A catastrophic collapse this time around would make the Depression look like a pleasant dream.
Posted by: mrp at May 31, 2023 03:42 PM (rj6Yv)
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Oh yes. A hundred year setback, optimistically. Perhaps 150, like pre-electricity ages.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2023 03:44 PM (DU+/6)

314 I can see Peking from my house!

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper · 4m
NEW - Suspected Chinese spies posing as tourists discovered in Alaska - USA Today

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:44 PM (Vwz3I)

315 Those with whom it's impossible to have a rational discussion, because Trump is always right. It really is a religion.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:40 PM (eOEVl)

Hey, first of all this Tang is top-shelf.

Secondly, the more RDS fans say "Trump is a cult" the more the MAGA base (at least 50% of the party) will tell you to sit on it.

Posted by: trev006 at May 31, 2023 03:44 PM (FWpta)

316 Those bastards that are always off topic.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2023 03:42 PM (R38qh)

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Heh.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 03:44 PM (DRSnL)

317 The RINOS & Globalists can have her. FoxNews should only use REAL Stars!!!"

Trump to have a Hannity Town Hall tomorrow.

The guys nutso.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 31, 2023 03:44 PM (to8pj)

318 This "dose of reality and pain" is an opium dream. There are no brakes, no gradual adjustments, it would be straight to the Spanish Civil War on steroids and Fentanyl. You cool with that?

Posted by: mrp at May 31, 2023 03:44 PM (rj6Yv)

319 Nap time maybe

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2023 03:45 PM (xhxe8)

320 "Kayleigh “Milktoast”McEnany just gave out the wrong poll numbers on FoxNews. I am 34 points up on DeSanctimonious, not 25 up. While 25 is great, it’s not 34. She knew the number was corrected upwards by the group that did the poll. The RINOS & Globalists can have her. FoxNews should only use REAL Stars!!!"

Who GAF about this stupidity? A poll in May 2023? Serious, Trumpy, you had your chance to cross the Rubicon, and you cucked, hard. You've found out the hard way, you can't negotiate with commies, ever. Your only play is to insult people, that grows old quickly.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 31, 2023 03:45 PM (XxKgh)

321 In the legal interest of the rule of completion, here is the tweet.

"Kayleigh “Milktoast”McEnany just gave out the wrong poll numbers on FoxNews. I am 34 points up on DeSanctimonious, not 25 up. While 25 is great, it’s not 34. She knew the number was corrected upwards by the group that did the poll. The RINOS & Globalists can have her. FoxNews should only use REAL Stars!!!"
Posted by: whig at May 31, 2023 03:39 PM (wUSgb)


Hence my earlier comment. IMO, Trump's best course of action would have been to say something like "Great new poll showing me up by 34 (not 25 as the [insult of your choice] at Fox News claimed)! MAGA 2024 [or something to that effect]!" That was as far as he needed to go; it would have conveyed some impression of his current political strength.

Again, I say that whether or not McEnany is a "backstabber," calling her out by name and implying that she is a globalist RINO and a nobody, when everyone knows she was his press secretary and often got very feisty defending him, achieved less than nothing from the perspective of his political future.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 31, 2023 03:45 PM (jGGMD)

322 If what whig posted is what we're supposed to get all hot and bothered about...

Whatever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:45 PM (LvTSG)

323 >>> 295
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Those with whom it's impossible to have a rational discussion, because Trump is always right. It really is a religion.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:40 PM (eOEVl)

Nothing like a blanket personal statement to stir shit.

FYI, I've said more than once that Trump lost (and I was *not* referring to the election) back in March of 2020.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 03:45 PM (llON8)

324 trev006 for one.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:43 PM (eOEVl)

Yesssss!

Posted by: trev006 at May 31, 2023 03:45 PM (FWpta)

325 Secondly, the more RDS fans say "Trump is a cult" the more the MAGA base (at least 50% of the party) will tell you to sit on it.

Of course, of course. The heretics must be burned.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:45 PM (eOEVl)

326 I would love to see a TJM vs. MP4 movie trivia night.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2023 03:45 PM (mw8fy)

327 I really don't if Trump is nominated or not. I barely care, should he be nominated, if he gets elected.

That being said, the vibe I'm getting is he doesn't seem to be approaching this any differently than he did 2016, and I think that would be a huuuuuge mistake.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 31, 2023 03:46 PM (nO2JE)

328 But regardless, it was a pointless, gratuitous thing to do, as most people will only remember her as his press secretary and see it as a cheap shot on his part. Putting aside the Trump v DeSantis question, there was just no tangible political advantage to be wrung from this.
Posted by: Dr. T
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Dr. T,

Quite humbly, most people do not give one iota of care what the politically attuned are saying about this or that. Quite frankly, ideologues (in the sense of firm opinions as to candidate preferences) are the only ones paying attention to the GOP race right now because simply put, too much is going on in personal lives and other news.

The traditional kickoff to prezzie primary season is after Labor Day and things do not get really serious until about December or so.

Posted by: whig at May 31, 2023 03:46 PM (wUSgb)

329 326 I would love to see a TJM vs. MP4 movie trivia night.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2023 03:45 PM (mw8fy)

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I'm more general knowledge. He's more silent era.

We have different strengths. We'd be part of a well-rounded team.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:46 PM (LvTSG)

330 REPORTER: “What do you say to the majority of Americans who believe that the President himself is corrupt?”

KIRBY: “Wow…” [andy: whispered; shakes head; waits five seconds] The President has spoken to this. The President has spoken to this.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I)
.........

lol
Derp.

Posted by: wth at May 31, 2023 03:46 PM (v0R5T)

331 235 I gave you the f***ing link. Read it.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:27 PM (eOEVl)

The only links I click on here are JJ and occasionally Mannix and Fen.

It would have taken you less time to quote what offended you so much than this "read the link" stuff. I will look when I have time. For now it's back to Scottish redheads.
Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:29 PM (cWtPc)
________________

Well, Fen posts pics of studly guys, so . . . is there something you want to tell everyone about a closet and a door and opening it?

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 31, 2023 03:47 PM (iFTx/)

332 If her has yet to prove himself to you after 4+ years, he never will.
Posted by: Montec at May 31, 2023 03:38 PM (OalnH)

Absolutely untrue. Our house is littered with men who seemed loyal and conservative but broke when the rubber met the road. Remember Jeff Sessions? I'm listing one of 10,000. Others can name others. To say otherwise is just sillyworld.

To pretend it's not useful for "someone" to fight the conservative fight and find himself in a legitimate position to challenge Donald Trump for the presidency is just not reasonable. The Left plays game longer than that and so does the purported Right.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:47 PM (I6T7W)

333
Well, Fen posts pics of studly guys, so . . . is there something you want to tell everyone about a closet and a door and opening it?

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 31, 2023 03:47 PM (iFTx/)

You gonna judge me during Pride Month?

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:47 PM (I6T7W)

334 Archimedes, you are not interested in rational discussions. You are a shit stirrer that I first noticed about six months ago. Just like dumping onto a brand new article from Ace as the very first post with something that has nothing to do with the topic, but you know is inflammatory to getting arguments started.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 31, 2023 03:48 PM (vpE19)

335 @271

>>If Ron is a savior and not a convenient party splitter it will come out in the wash.

My main criticisms with The Meatball is that he was already a pointless useless, Charter F**king Member of The Freedom Caucus.

He bailed on congress because, let's face it, it's as useless pile of dog shit and with a major backing and support from Trump, beat a crackhead to become Governor, where he has preformed as expected with a mostly on board legislature.

Another bone of contention I have with him and that dick f**k Rick Scott, is that they literally had to fight attempts to steal their elections, they then worked to clean up Florida elections but for some reason, have not supported Trump in his claims of election Fraud. Hmmm, why is that?

Throw in the fact he's a Yale/Harvard/MIC/JAG guy and I do not fully trust a man of that pedigree.

And him acting as if Trump doesn't and never existed as a thing and doesn't feel like he is beneath engaging him, reveals himself to be a an unthankful, rotten shit weasel.

That being said, if he were somehow to win the nomination, doubtful, I would crawl over broken glass to vote for the bastard.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2023 03:48 PM (up/3i)

336 322 If what whig posted is what we're supposed to get all hot and bothered about...

Whatever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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PJ Media link is a reaction piece posted by Archimedes.

I went followed the link in the story to the original Truth Social post by Trump.

Always go to primary sources and always use the rule of completion on factoids posted by someone in the press.

Posted by: whig at May 31, 2023 03:48 PM (wUSgb)

337 FYI, I've said more than once that Trump lost (and I was *not* referring to the election) back in March of 2020.

His ongoing claim that Fauci is "amazing, just the best really" is arguably his biggest weakness.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2023 03:48 PM (ZGrMX)

338 328 Dr. T,

Quite humbly, most people do not give one iota of care what the politically attuned are saying about this or that. Quite frankly, ideologues (in the sense of firm opinions as to candidate preferences) are the only ones paying attention to the GOP race right now because simply put, too much is going on in personal lives and other news.

The traditional kickoff to prezzie primary season is after Labor Day and things do not get really serious until about December or so.
Posted by: whig at May 31, 2023 03:46 PM (wUSgb)

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Yeah, the normies, even the normies that vote in primaries, don't give a shit about this tit for tat. Seriously, even here, with the immensely connected into politics, did the quote change anyone's mind, or did it just solidify previously existing positions?

Everything needs to be Watergate these days. In fact, it's always been like this with partisan newspapers trumping up every stupid thing in the early 19th century, and yet precious few events actually move the needle.

Trump saying his former press secretary isn't that great in a glorified tweet isn't one of those things.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:48 PM (LvTSG)

339 >>> 313 A "dose of reality and pain". My parents barely made it through the Depression. A catastrophic collapse this time around would make the Depression look like a pleasant dream.
Posted by: mrp at May 31, 2023 03:42 PM (rj6Yv)
++++
Oh yes. A hundred year setback, optimistically. Perhaps 150, like pre-electricity ages.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 31, 2023 03:44 PM (DU+/6)

Going back to pre-industrial times is the WEF wet dream, and I have little confidence in the ability of Trump, DeSantis or any other politician to prevent this.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 03:48 PM (llON8)

340 325 "Secondly, the more RDS fans say "Trump is a cult" the more the MAGA base (at least 50% of the party) will tell you to sit on it."

Of course, of course. The heretics must be burned.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:45 PM (eOEVl)

Seriously, face in the mirror time, that is the purist angle a lot of RDS fans are running with. Y'all are the ones saying the heretics(all non-Conservatives) must be burned.

Trump is a compromise/coalition candidate. The issues(largely fiscal discipline) we're giving up are relatively clear.

Now you might say we can do better without coalitioning with union-types, but you'd actually have to make a case for some other sort of coalition partner.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 31, 2023 03:48 PM (eYoxG)

341 333
Well, Fen posts pics of studly guys, so . . . is there something you want to tell everyone about a closet and a door and opening it?

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 31, 2023 03:47 PM (iFTx/)

You gonna judge me during Pride Month?
Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:47 PM (I6T7W)
_________

Not until tomorrow, not until tomorrow . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 31, 2023 03:49 PM (iFTx/)

342 336 PJ Media link is a reaction piece posted by Archimedes.

I went followed the link in the story to the original Truth Social post by Trump.

Always go to primary sources and always use the rule of completion on factoids posted by someone in the press.
Posted by: whig at May 31, 2023 03:48 PM (wUSgb)

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Primary sources are racist, whig. Be Better.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:49 PM (LvTSG)

343 Archimedes, you are not interested in rational discussions. You are a shit stirrer that I first noticed about six months ago. Just like dumping onto a brand new article from Ace as the very first post with something that has nothing to do with the topic, but you know is inflammatory to getting arguments started.

*shrugs* I've been here for many years. I can live with your disapproval.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:49 PM (eOEVl)

344 Of course, of course. The heretics must be burned.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:45 PM (eOEVl)

"Whereas I am a man of great faith."
- Caleb Menge

Posted by: trev006 at May 31, 2023 03:49 PM (FWpta)

345 But we'll get collapse, of course. That is the way it usually goes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)


There's really no fixing this mess now. It's too late. The question is who will be seen to be holding the bag when the shit hits the fan.
We are so deeply in debt, and the government budgeting process is so broke, and Congress as a whole is so ineffective.
And they ignore all of us, because the handful of people that have real power would rather see most of us "useless eaters" dead.
So, always look on the bright side of life!

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at May 31, 2023 03:49 PM (vcOmj)

346 Of course, of course. The heretics must be burned.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:45 PM (eOEVl)

I have no religion but the Christian one. I voted for Trump twice. I will vote for whoever is the Republican candidate, but I'm not very confident that we will have a fair election, if I'm even alive then, and at this point I'm bored by Trump/DeSantis slap down fights.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 31, 2023 03:50 PM (Keyt1)

347 He bailed on congress because, let's face it, it's as useless pile of dog shit and with a major backing and support from Trump, beat a crackhead to become Governor, where he has preformed as expected with a mostly on board legislature.

And how many other GOP governors are performing as expected rather than cucking out to Big Tranny or cowering in fear of the media saying something unkind? At this point, "performing as expected" is the exception.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2023 03:50 PM (ZGrMX)

348 Trump is an egotistical blowhard and has been one his whole life. It amazes me that some people are surprised by this or think they’re scoring points by pointing it out.

He’s an asshole and I’ll be voting for him again.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 31, 2023 03:50 PM (u73oe)

349 Long gone is any mention of a balanced budget. Now they just refer to whatever year that spending was also out of control -- to get us back to sanity which apparently is what out of control spending is now. Sanity. It's science that even an SNL thought about making it up in volume defies.

Posted by: micky at May 31, 2023 03:50 PM (3byMq)

350 "Some but not all members of the House Freedom Caucus have vented about how the bill does not do enough to tackle America's deficit problem."

If I'm not mistaken, we haven't had an actual traditional budget since 2008.

None of this matters. Fiscally, the US has been a dead man walking since at least the early 2000's. We will default in some form or other, officially or not.

Posted by: somedood at May 31, 2023 03:50 PM (27Un2)

351 >>> 332

==
Absolutely untrue. Our house is littered with men who seemed loyal and conservative but broke when the rubber met the road. Remember Jeff Sessions? I'm listing one of 10,000. Others can name others. To say otherwise is just sillyworld.

==
Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:47 PM (I6T7W)

"The intel community can get you six ways to Sunday" - stuff Chuckie Schumer said

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 03:50 PM (llON8)

352 Trump War Room claimed DeSantis voted to confirm Chris Wray. This claim got a community note, clarifying that DeSantis was in the House and the Senate was the body that voted to confirm Wray.

https://tinyurl.com/msznccbv

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2023 03:50 PM (R38qh)

353 "Kayleigh “Milktoast”McEnany just gave out the wrong poll numbers on FoxNews. I am 34 points up on DeSanctimonious, not 25 up. While 25 is great, it’s not 34. She knew the number was corrected upwards by the group that did the poll. The RINOS & Globalists can have her. FoxNews should only use REAL Stars!!!"

___

A very stable genius.

Posted by: Montec at May 31, 2023 03:50 PM (OalnH)

354 I don’t care what any politician (including Trump) says anymore. I care about what they do.

That’s why I would support either Trump or DeSantis, and why I don’t give a damn about Trump’s mean tweets, regardless of whom they’re directed against.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2023 03:50 PM (mw8fy)

355 I went followed the link in the story to the original Truth Social post by Trump.

Always go to primary sources and always use the rule of completion on factoids posted by someone in the press.


What was incorrect in the link I posted?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:51 PM (eOEVl)

356 Hall Monitor!

Posted by: guy who always yells for the Hall Monitor at May 31, 2023 03:51 PM (v0R5T)

357 Why is hating all elected Republicans but tolerating the one outsider the Left really wants to destroy such a controversial position? I don't get it. I really don't. Does it make me impure?

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:51 PM (I6T7W)

358 I have no quarrel with the people who still want Trump for '24. I think their analysis is wrong, but fine. I could be the one who's mistaken. Maybe DeSantis would turn out to be a disappointment on the national level.

What bothers me (and I'm not accusing anyone here of it) is the people who say that if Trump's not the nominee, they're not voting at all (or even voting for Biden), because the implication is that he's literally the only patriot/defender of Heritage America as far as politicking goes; that literally no one else, no matter what they say or do, should be given the time of day. A, that's out of touch with reality, and B, if it wasn't, then we might as well give up now, because there's no way we can win with only one guy on our side.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 31, 2023 03:51 PM (jGGMD)

359 357 Why is hating all elected Republicans but tolerating the one outsider the Left really wants to destroy such a controversial position? I don't get it. I really don't. Does it make me impure?
Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:51 PM (I6T7W)

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So impure. You are just...I can't even...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:52 PM (LvTSG)

360 Going back to pre-industrial times is the WEF wet dream, and I have little confidence in the ability of Trump, DeSantis or any other politician to prevent this.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 03:48 PM (llON

The WEF wet dream is that the serfs, "us", obey the rules, eat the bugs, ride the decrepit public transport systems, and live in cold-water flats, while the Nomenklatura. whoop it up in unimaginable ease and splendor.

Posted by: mrp at May 31, 2023 03:52 PM (rj6Yv)

361 @347

>>And how many other GOP governors are performing as expected rather than cucking out to Big Tranny or cowering in fear of the media saying something unkind? At this point, "performing as expected" is the exception.

The fact that he is preforming as we like is a low bar of entry, and as I said, there is no rationale for him to run in 24 while Trump is on the field of battle.

And the manner in which he is running is unmanly.

Be better Meatball, be better.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2023 03:52 PM (up/3i)

362 Posted by: Elric Blade at May 31, 2023 03:47 PM (iFTx

Actually, the majority by a large margin of pictures which I post are attractive young women in modest clothing with a few men who if they were speaking would say , " The idea that that woman in the sexy attire is conservative makes me laugh."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 31, 2023 03:52 PM (Keyt1)

363 306
wait
That is not the proper definition of an OTer
Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at May 31, 2023 03:42 PM

I know you LowT-ers, if you're interested...

Posted by: David French at May 31, 2023 03:52 PM (JCZqz)

364 FBI director Christopher Wray offers to let James Comer see Biden bribery allegation file

Posted by: SMOD at May 31, 2023 03:53 PM (RHGPo)

365 358 What bothers me (and I'm not accusing anyone here of it) is the people who say that if Trump's not the nominee, they're not voting at all (or even voting for Biden), because the implication is that he's literally the only patriot/defender of Heritage America as far as politicking goes; that literally no one else, no matter what they say or do, should be given the time of day. A, that's out of touch with reality, and B, if it wasn't, then we might as well give up now, because there's no way we can win with only one guy on our side.
Posted by: Dr. T at May 31, 2023 03:51 PM (jGGMD)

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I'm a DeSantis voter who thinks none of this fucking matters because Philly will manufacture 1,000,000 votes to make sure that Joe Biden wins.

There is one candidate taking voter fraud seriously, and it's Joe Biden. That's why he'll win.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:53 PM (LvTSG)

366 Not until tomorrow, not until tomorrow . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 31, 2023 03:49 PM (iFTx/)

And now you're gonna judge me for getting started early? During Pride Month???

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:53 PM (I6T7W)

367 "349 Long gone is any mention of a balanced budget.
Posted by: micky at May 31, 2023 03:50 PM (3byMq)"

It hasn't been actually balanced in my lifetime, if you take into account unfunded liabilities. Anyone seriously considering the issue knows this - the real question for most observers has always been whether or not it will hold together until after they're dead, even if they won't come right out and admit it.

Posted by: somedood at May 31, 2023 03:53 PM (27Un2)

368 I have no religion but the Christian one. I voted for Trump twice. I will vote for whoever is the Republican candidate, but I'm not very confident that we will have a fair election, if I'm even alive then, and at this point I'm bored by Trump/DeSantis slap down fights.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 31, 2023 03:50 PM (Keyt1)

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What Fen said.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 03:53 PM (DRSnL)

369 >>> You gonna judge me during Pride Month? _________
Not until tomorrow, not until tomorrow . . . .



Crowder also kicks off his cultural appropriation month in June... so you get two ways next month to see silly costumes and mockery!

Posted by: LizLem at May 31, 2023 03:53 PM (+mkOR)

370 >>> 358 I have no quarrel with the people who still want Trump for '24. I think their analysis is wrong, but fine. I could be the one who's mistaken. Maybe DeSantis would turn out to be a disappointment on the national level.

What bothers me (and I'm not accusing anyone here of it) is the people who say that if Trump's not the nominee, they're not voting at all (or even voting for Biden), because the implication is that he's literally the only patriot/defender of Heritage America as far as politicking goes; that literally no one else, no matter what they say or do, should be given the time of day. A, that's out of touch with reality, and B, if it wasn't, then we might as well give up now, because there's no way we can win with only one guy on our side.
Posted by: Dr. T at May 31, 2023 03:51 PM (jGGMD)

This, too. I'll vote for the non-D, but I sure as fck won't expect that marking a little piece of paper is the only action required to avert the oncoming disaster.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 03:54 PM (llON8)

371 the vibe I'm getting is he doesn't seem to be approaching this any differently than he did 2016,
---------
Jack Poso 🇺🇸 @JackPosobiec · May 29
BREAKING: Trump campaign begins fundraising for ballot harvesting operations in battleground states

thepostmillennial.com
Trump campaign fundraises for ballot harvesting operations in battleground states
“We recently alerted you that a Soros-linked Super PAC has begun targeting 6 battleground states with a $75 MILLION spending blitz to buy Crooked Joe the White House.”

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:54 PM (Vwz3I)

372 I'm gonna start pretending that the only Republican I *won't* vote for is that skunk DePlantis.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:54 PM (cRY8T)

373 Trump is a compromise/coalition candidate. The issues(largely fiscal discipline) we're giving up are relatively clear.

Now you might say we can do better without coalitioning with union-types, but you'd actually have to make a case for some other sort of coalition partner.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

The illusion is that an election will make a difference. This is an illusion that I have been laboring under for a large part of my adult life (I am in my late '60's).
I've been wrong, as have most of us.

The best we can do is try to plan and take care of those we care about. It's too late to save the country.
I'll vote, but really, it won't change the outcome now.

The America I knew, the country I was born in, is gone. We are in some kind of transition to a new, more authoritarian state, and most of use will be much worse off in a few years. Ron DeSantis is a good guy, he's not a villain. Donald Trump has literally risked his life to stay in the US and try to fight this. They, the people who really are running things, want Trump and all his family dead or in prison.

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at May 31, 2023 03:54 PM (vcOmj)

374 Megyn Kelly Slams ‘Chicken’ DeSantis for Not Coming on Her Show: ‘Be a Man’


Her self-promotion and FOMO is at histrionic levels. I'd still hit though.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 31, 2023 03:55 PM (to8pj)

375 Anheuser-Busch Stock Enters Bear Territory Amid Anti-Trans Bud Light Backlash

Posted by: SMOD at May 31, 2023 03:55 PM (RHGPo)

376 Well, I’m off to the nursery to get herbs for the garden. The world may go to shit, but I’ll have dill for the potato salad.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 31, 2023 03:55 PM (u73oe)

377 Going back to pre-industrial times is the WEF wet dream, and I have little confidence in the ability of Trump, DeSantis or any other politician to prevent this.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 03:48 PM (llON

Oh agreed. But then, mitigating the situation will help a lot. Financiers and their puppets uphold the WEF, and one solution is certainly a nice BBQ.

It will be nearly impossible to uphold Information Age prosperity, but the past few years might have shown what happens when the banksters weaken. Elite part organs start having layoffs, regime enforcers go crazy, etc. Ideally China will pull away the carpet, at which point the blue states will devour themselves.

Get ready.

Posted by: trev006 at May 31, 2023 03:55 PM (FWpta)

378 FBI director Christopher Wray offers to let James Comer see Biden bribery allegation file
Posted by: SMOD at May 31, 2023 03:53 PM (RHGPo)
.......

I hesitate to comment until REDACTED weighs in.

Posted by: wth at May 31, 2023 03:55 PM (v0R5T)

379 Is Archimedes the new Joe XiDen?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 31, 2023 03:55 PM (mw8fy)

380 I'm getting bored with the Trump vs DeathSantis shit-throwing, even when it has nothing to do with the post at hand. You all know that it's a circular firing squad, right?

I like and support them both. I recognize each of their strengths and weaknesses. I'll vote hard as fuck for whichever wins the nomination.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 31, 2023 03:55 PM (iFTx/)

381 371 the vibe I'm getting is he doesn't seem to be approaching this any differently than he did 2016,
---------
Jack Poso 🇺🇸 @JackPosobiec · May 29
BREAKING: Trump campaign begins fundraising for ballot harvesting operations in battleground states

thepostmillennial.com
Trump campaign fundraises for ballot harvesting operations in battleground states
“We recently alerted you that a Soros-linked Super PAC has begun targeting 6 battleground states with a $75 MILLION spending blitz to buy Crooked Joe the White House.”
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 03:54 PM (Vwz3I)

Trump's attitude of trying to get R operations to match D ones is interesting, but I don't think it'll swing 2024. These things take time.

Might be possible for practices established this cycle to benefit 2026 and 2028 though.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 31, 2023 03:55 PM (eYoxG)

382 The DC swamp is basically impenetrable right now, anyway. We need a broad-based revolt: the Bud Light effect on steroids, not just economic revolt, but a cultural arising that destroys the foundations of this ever-failing pseudo "elite."

P.s. why are RD fans obsessed with Trump? Trump and his "cult" is seemingly all they ever talk about. They hardly ever talk about, I don't know . . . why RD would be a good president. Yes, we know that Trump started it with RD and that TRUMP himself talks a lot about RD. I'm asking RD fans why THEY rarely talk about RD and only talk about Trump.

Posted by: Bamanarama at May 31, 2023 03:56 PM (uH1aC)

383 380 I'm getting bored with the Trump vs DeathSantis shit-throwing, even when it has nothing to do with the post at hand. You all know that it's a circular firing squad, right?

I like and support them both. I recognize each of their strengths and weaknesses. I'll vote hard as fuck for whichever wins the nomination.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 31, 2023 03:55 PM (iFTx/)

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You must pick a side!

Remember, John Kasich is always a side.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:56 PM (LvTSG)

384 So impure. You are just...I can't even...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:52 PM (LvTSG)

I don't even read links. I ask questions. I'm the worst.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:57 PM (EUKDs)

385 378 FBI director Christopher Wray offers to let James Comer see Biden bribery allegation file
Posted by: SMOD at May 31, 2023 03:53 PM (RHGPo)

Because they contain evidence that Trump's breath is responsible for Global climate Change !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at May 31, 2023 03:57 PM (/Qz4j)

386 A source familiar with Wray’s early-afternoon call with Comer (R-Ky.) and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) told The Post that the FBI chief confirmed the existence of an FD-1023 informant file from June 2020 accusing Biden of bribery and offered the lawmakers “in camera review” of the document.

The FBI had refused to share the document following a legally binding May 3 subpoena from Comer, which the chairman said Tuesday he would enforce with contempt proceedings against Wray.

Comer does not believe that the offer of in-camera review is sufficient to comply with the subpoena, the source said, indicating that the document standoff will continue as GOP leaders press for public disclosure of both the allegation and information about what the FBI did to review the claim.

Posted by: SMOD at May 31, 2023 03:57 PM (RHGPo)

387 GOP failure theater has to be the longest running show on earth.

They are like Lassie. When one dies, they just get another that looks like "her."*

The original Lassie was male.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at May 31, 2023 03:57 PM (vg8N1)

388 I'm asking RD fans why THEY rarely talk about RD and only talk about Trump.

I reject your premise. I frequently post about D here.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 31, 2023 03:57 PM (eOEVl)

389 381 Trump's attitude of trying to get R operations to match D ones is interesting, but I don't think it'll swing 2024. These things take time.

Might be possible for practices established this cycle to benefit 2026 and 2028 though.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 31, 2023 03:55 PM (eYoxG)

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Well, more like the mail in voting operations are so porous that they allow for the powers that be in places like PA, AZ, MI, and GA to simply manufacture as many votes as possible. It doesn't matter if more Republicans vote.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:57 PM (LvTSG)

390 Dr. T,

Quite humbly, most people do not give one iota of care what the politically attuned are saying about this or that. Quite frankly, ideologues (in the sense of firm opinions as to candidate preferences) are the only ones paying attention to the GOP race right now because simply put, too much is going on in personal lives and other news.

The traditional kickoff to prezzie primary season is after Labor Day and things do not get really serious until about December or so.
Posted by: whig at May 31, 2023 03:46 PM (wUSgb)


Eh, I agree and I don't. There's ideologues and then there's ideologues. We're a subset of a subset; the politically-engaged types who not only know who McEnany is to begin with, but also have the time/interest to dig up the history of her association with Trump. In my view, those who just remember her name and previous occupation outnumber those willing to do a deep dive, and I don't think Trump's tweet about her will play well with them. That's why I say it yielded no advantage as far as his campaign goes.

But yeah, nothing this far out will have any permanent effects.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 31, 2023 03:57 PM (jGGMD)

391 NOOD

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 31, 2023 03:57 PM (DRSnL)

392 373

The illusion is that an election will make a difference. This is an illusion that I have been laboring under for a large part of my adult life (I am in my late '60's).
I've been wrong, as have most of us.

The best we can do is try to plan and take care of those we care about. It's too late to save the country.
I'll vote, but really, it won't change the outcome now.

The America I knew, the country I was born in, is gone. We are in some kind of transition to a new, more authoritarian state, and most of use will be much worse off in a few years. Ron DeSantis is a good guy, he's not a villain. Donald Trump has literally risked his life to stay in the US and try to fight this. They, the people who really are running things, want Trump and all his family dead or in prison.
Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at May 31, 2023 03:54 PM (vcOmj)

Yeah there's that too. Neither a Trump or DeSantis win will fix things. I'm a bit wary of running candidates that present as too ideological as the country is heading to collapse though.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 31, 2023 03:58 PM (eYoxG)

393 384 So impure. You are just...I can't even...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:52 PM (LvTSG)

I don't even read links. I ask questions. I'm the worst.
Posted by: ... at May 31, 2023 03:57 PM (EUKDs)

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He said it. We were just all thinking it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:58 PM (LvTSG)

394 Comer is so angry right no he's about to use an exclamation point in his next letter to Wray.

Posted by: Montec at May 31, 2023 03:58 PM (OalnH)

395 389 381 Trump's attitude of trying to get R operations to match D ones is interesting, but I don't think it'll swing 2024. These things take time.

Might be possible for practices established this cycle to benefit 2026 and 2028 though.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 31, 2023 03:55 PM (eYoxG)

========

Well, more like the mail in voting operations are so porous that they allow for the powers that be in places like PA, AZ, MI, and GA to simply manufacture as many votes as possible. It doesn't matter if more Republicans vote.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 03:57 PM (LvTSG)

I guess that depends what he means. Couldn't we withhold harvested votes and submit them late enough to screw with the Ds?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 31, 2023 03:58 PM (eYoxG)

396 Last!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2023 03:58 PM (e4fEA)

397 "377 Going back to pre-industrial times is the WEF wet dream, and I have little confidence in the ability of Trump, DeSantis or any other politician to prevent this.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 31, 2023 03:48 PM (llON

Oh agreed. But then, mitigating the situation will help a lot. Financiers and their puppets uphold the WEF, and one solution is certainly a nice BBQ.

It will be nearly impossible to uphold Information Age prosperity, but the past few years might have shown what happens when the banksters weaken. Elite part organs start having layoffs, regime enforcers go crazy, etc. Ideally China will pull away the carpet, at which point the blue states will devour themselves.

Get ready.
Posted by: trev006 at May 31, 2023 03:55 PM (FWpta)"

WEF goal isn't pre-industrial, it's post-industrial. Automation is intended to replace quite a bit of labor; they just need enough peasants to make up the rest and provide a suitable underclass to lord it over.

Posted by: somedood at May 31, 2023 03:59 PM (27Un2)

398 Over/under on when Chip Roy folds on the debt ceiling?

Gee shucks, we tried right?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 31, 2023 03:59 PM (to8pj)

399 It will be nearly impossible to uphold Information Age prosperity, but the past few years might have shown what happens when the banksters weaken. Elite part organs start having layoffs, regime enforcers go crazy, etc. Ideally China will pull away the carpet, at which point the blue states will devour themselves.

China *has* been pulling away the carpet for their would-be African vassal states recently. I think some of it's for geopolitical advantage and some of it's because they genuinely need the money to prop up Joe Biden, but either way it's interesting.

Also, the WEF types have openly stated 7.5 billion people need to die in order to achieve utopia. How the fuck do they expect there to be any kind of supply chain or utility grid if that happens?

Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2023 03:59 PM (ZGrMX)

400
You must pick a side!

Remember, John Kasich is always a side.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman


I know you are being sarcastic, but Kasich is an even bigger dick than most people here realize. So...let's pick him!!!

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at May 31, 2023 04:00 PM (vcOmj)

401 new thread, if no one mentioned it. something about 'hasbeens'

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 31, 2023 04:00 PM (B1FKF)

402 395 I guess that depends what he means. Couldn't we withhold harvested votes and submit them late enough to screw with the Ds?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 31, 2023 03:58 PM (eYoxG)

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Oops, a leak in Atlanta. Gotta count in secret now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, on just the weirdest trip with John Boorman at May 31, 2023 04:00 PM (LvTSG)

403 Does the kohls/Budweiser/target boycott extend to Petsmart? Their pet clothing and toy lines are unleashed for pride month. So many rainbow toys and clothes.

Also, all the companies that make their logos rainbow is a good list.

Posted by: LizLem at May 31, 2023 04:00 PM (+mkOR)

404 GOP’s Chris Stewart (Utah) to resign his seat in Congress. “... my wife’s health concerns have made it necessary that I retire from Congress after an orderly transition can be ensured.”

This is Rhode Island's Rep. David Cicilline's last week in Congress as he leaves to head a non-profit.

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra & Jade, too. at May 31, 2023 04:00 PM (GshMh)

405 Does the kohls/Budweiser/target boycott extend to Petsmart? Their pet clothing and toy lines are unleashed for pride month. So many rainbow toys and clothes.

I saw a picture on Twitter of pride flavor Milk-Bones. Milk Bone's website has a list of ways you can involve your dog in being gay.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2023 04:01 PM (ZGrMX)

406 I don't even read links. I ask questions. I'm the worst.
Posted by: ...

There's a lot of competition out there.

And on topic, this is what we all expected of McCarthy.

This is who he is, and in reality, this is who a lot of Republicans are. And, it was totally symptomatic that Boehner endorses this mess.

Posted by: Barnacle Bill the sailor at May 31, 2023 04:02 PM (vcOmj)

407 Remember, John Kasich is always a side.
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And Pence and Christie!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 31, 2023 04:03 PM (Vwz3I)

408 I'm asking RD fans why THEY rarely talk about RD and only talk about Trump.

Archimedes wrote, "I reject your premise. I frequently post about D here."

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Well, Ace of Spades threads fill up fast and furiously, so maybe I missed all these examples of RD fans commenting about RD, but then I must have had terrible luck missing all these comments, kind of like a reverse Mr. Magoo.

Posted by: Bamanarama at May 31, 2023 04:05 PM (uH1aC)

409 It won't matter who the GOP nominates.
We can control ALL voting machines with our Italian satellites

Posted by: Paul at May 31, 2023 04:08 PM (ri/w5)

410 You might as well try to make pro wrestling into an honest sport

Posted by: Paul at May 31, 2023 04:08 PM (ri/w5)

411 Also, the WEF types have openly stated 7.5 billion people need to die in order to achieve utopia. How the fuck do they expect there to be any kind of supply chain or utility grid if that happens?
Posted by: Ian S. at May 31, 2023 03:59 PM (ZGrMX)

I'm sure they intend to prioritize the elites in their urban strongholds. They will be disappointed.

Posted by: trev006 at May 31, 2023 04:09 PM (FWpta)

412 Also, the WEF types have openly stated 7.5 billion people need to die in order to achieve utopia.

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I've got a little list.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 31, 2023 04:12 PM (FVME7)

413 McCarthy has assured apathy if not opposition in general to ' R' candidates in the next election.

With this budget deal Mrs Frank Luntz is solidifying the perception of the 'R's as only controlled opposition.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at May 31, 2023 04:36 PM (UYNML)

414 "California Republican" is the key to why this "more" spending bill is being put forward for a vote. Until the Republican Party axes all of the GOPe, remember the "e" stands for establishment, we will continue to be raped and savaged by the Marxist Democratic Party.

Posted by: FrankinTexas at May 31, 2023 04:40 PM (e9l8y)

415 Clintons+Obama+Biden=Traitors

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 31, 2023 05:14 PM (wGqjj)

416 Yeah, I'm late to the thread, and didn't read the 415 comments to see if this has been mentioned...

Why does the House need to include in a 'deal' the step of going back to regular order and passing 12 appropriations bills instead of an omnibus?

You are the House, you control this process with your simple majority. If you pass these individual appropriations, the Senate will (eventually) have to deal with them as passed, as will the White House.

You. Don't. Have. To. Ask. Permission.

Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at May 31, 2023 06:52 PM (4uYUo)

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