DeSantis Announces: "I Am Running For President... Governing Is Not About Entertainment. It's Not About Building a Brand. It's About Delivering."

DeSantis will announce his bid for the presidency at 6pm on Twitter.

NEW LINK: I added a YouTube simulcast of the announcement. It's under the fold.

And the leftwing #ResistanceMedia is accepting this in a calm, dispassionate matter.

VANITY FAIR
@VanityFair
DeSantis is set to announce his 2024 White House bid in conversation with a guy who, among other things, has made Twitter a safe haven for hate speech.

r2401
@liliiilllliiili
Are they saying desantis is duke or musk is duke

I don't think they've even thought about it enough to say. The important thing is just having the name "David Duke" in the vicinity of the other two.

Katherine Brodsky
@mysteriouskat
This is in the "news" section of Vanity Fair--a paper I had once dreamt of writing for. And I'm appalled.
Note phrases like: "David Duke Wasn't Available" & "Other Neo-Nazi sympathizers weren't available." These are words being thrown around wildly and irresponsibly--like little verbal assassins. Target: One's reputation.
This article belongs in the 'Slander Op-Ed section,' certainly not the news section. One is entitled to criticize the decision, as the story's author Bess Levin has. Even I have had expressed some hesitation today because I think this move puts Twitter in the path of being an editorial media platform as opposed to just being the public town square. Further, there's been previous support expressed by Musk/Sacks for DeSantis in the past, so there's a perception of possible bias. But to compare Elon Musk to an actual white supremacist and a former Grand Wizard of the KKK/neo-Nazi sympathizer--all for interviewing a Republican presidential candidate...is not just bad journalism. It's outright slander. And it should be denounced by anyone who believes in actual journalism.
The last line in Levin's article states: "Anyway, just as a reminder, a DeSantis presidency is as terrible a prospect as a Trump one."
Even if I agree, the bigger is this: She's telling her readers what to think...not the facts, not the news. That's not the job of a journalist. At least certainly not one whose story finds itself in the "news" section.

#BREAKING: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis files to run against former President Trump in 2024 https://t.co/xBrbTB1PMP pic.twitter.com/s0wFFDxlmL
-- The Hill (@thehill) May 24, 2023
I think he's filing to run against Biden, but ok.
-- J Of The Jay (@jabster42) May 24, 2023

The Washington Post's "journalist" Paul Fahri basically makes the Conservative Case for Ron DeSantis. He means it to be disqualifying, of course.

Paul Farhi
@farhip
DeSantis, in last two months, has signed bills that:
--Make abortions illegal after six weeks.
--Enable permitless concealed- firearms carry.
--Eliminate unanimous jury verdicts in death-penalty cases. More...
--Makes child rapists eligible for the death penalty.
--Increases prison sentences for transporting undocumented individuals.
--Bans TikTok on govt/public school devices, prohibits China and "other foreign countries of concern" from buying land w/in 10 miles of military sites...
--Restricts gender-affirming treatments for minors, drag shows, public bathroom use, and pronoun use by teachers, administrators and students in schools. Law also affirms that sexual orientation and gender identity can't be taught up to eighth grade....
--Exempts governor's travel records from state public disclosure law. Applies retroactively and covers his use of state planes.
--Defunds diversity, equity and inclusion programs at state universities....
--Expands measures to block state investment based on environmental, social and governance (ESG) factors.
--Upcoming: Bill allowing him to run for president without resigning as governor awaiting his signature. End.

Seems to me you could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff!

This guy is openly campaigning against a political figure he pretends to cover "as a journalist."

Do words have meanings any longer?

Bill Kristol is now praising Trump, so that he can attack DeSantis as Worse Than Trump:

Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
I tend (perhaps foolishly) to discount the Alpha/Beta Male stuff.
But:
DeSantis was always on Fox when Rupert was for him. Now he announces on Twitter when Elon's for him. Kind of Beta, no?
Trump does CNN town hall, goes into the (pseudo-) lion's den. Looks kind of Alpha, no?

Yeah I know there he says that Ron DeSantis is a cvck, but in a bit, I'll quote him saying that DeSantis is a "more talented demagogue" than Trump is.

Ben Shapiro
@benshapiro
How odd that the minute another Republican threatens Trump for the nomination, all the people who declared that Trump was a Threat To The Republic(TM) flip and now find Strange New Respect(TM) for Trump

Fusilli Spock
@awstar11
Perfectly encapsulating how the fake conservatives of the past 20-30 years were always actually Democrats. There's zero daylight between this tweet vs. from the most ridiculous partisans from the Left.

MuhPrinziplzzzzzz.

The NeverTrumpers say that DeSantis is "a more talented demagogue than Trump," and are opposing him with equal or greater vigor than they opposed Trump.

"We have a dilemma on our hands," Cullen told Roarty, one in which certain disaffected members of the GOP will have to weigh conscience against pragmatism.
If the choice is between Trump and DeSantis, "a small but influential contingent of Republicans" will agonize between the "clear and present danger to the republic" and alternative who might ratchet up "the GOP's turn to anti-democratic demagoguery."
Really? That's how they see it? How would you like to live in their world?

"I'm depressed in either case," said longtime conservative leader Bill Kristol, who called Trump the more "talented" demagogue of the two men.

Bill Kristol, a cheap smear merchant currently kept at an unhealthy 40+ BMI thanks to leftwing provocateur Pierre Omidyar and most likely George Soros as well, was a vigorous spreader of Hillary Clinton pack of demagoguic lies called the Steele Dossier. He's got some nerve -- and no sense of self-reflection -- when he calls anyone else a demagogue.

Roarty quotes a representative sample of prominent Never Trumpers who also feel icky about DeSantis, and some of whom even manage to squeeze out grudging compliments for their perception of the lesser of two evils.
...
That sort of reassurance is not enough for some in the anti-Trump realm. Roarty reports that GOP strategist and The Bulwark publisher Sarah Longwell, who's helped raise and spend multiple millions of dollars opposing Trump, would pick the Democrat incumbent in a Ron DeSantis-Joe Biden showdown.

DeSantis, she said, reminds her of Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban, an authoritarian leader who has spoken out about mixed race marriages and sharply cut the rights of the country's LGBTQ citizens.

Here's some of that "extremism" the NeverTrumpers want to purge the party they abandoned of: A hamburger chain is suing Florida, asserting its first amendment right to host sexualized "lewd" drag shows for children.

The restaurant chain Hamburger Mary's is suing Gov. Ron DeSantis and Florida over its recently enacted ban on minors attending drag performances, claiming that the state is depriving it of its First Amendment right of free expression.
The suit, filed in federal court in central Florida, alleges that the law the governor signed into law Wednesday is so broad that it has "a chilling effect on protected speech."
At issue is a measure the Republican-led Legislature approved in April that bars minors from attending drag shows with "lewd" performances. The governor has personally called for tighter restrictions around such shows, which he says "sexualize" children.

The claim that they were uniquely against Trump was always a lie -- the neocons are liberals, and always were liberals. They were against the conservative base's political agenda, and attacked Trump because he was advancing that agenda. And now they're attacking DeSantis for the same reason.

They took over the party to push for War Across the World and suppressed every other natural conservative impulse for the 30 years in which they held the party in corporate-funded captivity.

They won't be pretending this time that it's about Muh Tweets or Muh Virtue and Character; now they'll just admit that they hate conservatives and support extremely leftwing social policies.

Here's Trump's very conservative, very presidential Twitter Babblings about the announcement. Attacking DeSantis from the left on Medicaid, attacking DeSantis from the left on the Flat Tax, etc.

And it's all about Trump and "loyalty" to Trump. Of course.

Can't wait until DeSantis starts lighting him the f*** up on The Trump Lockdowns.

From Zero Hedge:

"Ron DeSanctus can't win the General Election (or get the nomination) because he voted to obliterate Social Security, even wanting to raise the minimum age to 70 (or more!), voted to badly wound Medicare, and fought hard and voted for a 23% 'tax on everything' sales tax," former President Donald Trump wrote on Truth Social on May 24.
"He was, and is, a disciple of horrible RINO Paul Ryan, and others too many to mention," Trump added.
"Also, he desperately needs a personality transplant and, to the best of my knowledge, they are not medically available yet. A disloyal person!"
...
"Look, Rob DeSanctimonious came to me asking for help," he wrote in one post.
"He was losing badly, by 31 points, to popular Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam. He was getting ready to drop out of the race--Ran a terrible campaign!
"Ron told me he had one last chance, my Support & Endorsement, which Putnam, and everyone else, wanted also. I gave it to Ron, and the race was over. In one day, he went from losing badly, to winning by a lot. With 3 large Trump rallies, he won the general election in an upset. Disloyal!!!"

I continue being perplexed by Trump's call for "loyalty." I thought he was a businessman. I thought the consumer was empowered to seek a better deal if a better vendor came along.

I also note that Trump's pitch in 2016 was to abandon prior loyalties to support him. But now loyalty means everything, and forever?

Posted by: Ace at 06:59 PM

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1 Duke is a democrat.

Posted by: BignJames at May 24, 2023 06:01 PM (AwYPR)

2 I have ONE vote left in me and it ain't Ronnie.

Posted by: slubdog at May 24, 2023 06:02 PM (/Rqse)

3 Willowed

Richard Bennett (Bigo) sentenced to 56 mos. for putting his feet up on Nancy Pelosi's desk.

Ryan J. Reilly
@ryanjreilly
“You’re too old for this nonsense,” Judge Cooper told Bigo. He said it was important to send a message to Bigo’s followers that this kind of thing couldn’t happen again, and there’d be consequences
Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2023 05:57 PM (NpAcC)

Hitler got the same sentence and served only 8 months.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 06:03 PM (MNhXM)

4 a Musk flavored Meatball

sounds yummy

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 06:04 PM (us2H3)

5 So is Vanity Fair saying that I shouldn't like DeathSantis because he's not Hitler like Trump is?

Posted by: Minuteman at May 24, 2023 06:04 PM (LaNzR)

6 *heads to battle stations*

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:05 PM (tp+tP)

7 >>>Richard Bennett (Bigo) sentenced to 56 mos. for putting his feet up on Nancy Pelosi's desk.

...

Terrible.

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:05 PM (KRtlO)

8 Trump is a Nazi.
DeSantis is a One Calorie Nazi.

Posted by: Vanity Fair at May 24, 2023 06:06 PM (LaNzR)

9 Bill Kristol is truly a piece of work.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 24, 2023 06:06 PM (PiwSw)

10
I like DeSantis.

I like Trump (except he's old)

I hate talking politics.

I'll assume lurking mode before it turns into a War of Northern Aggression thread.

*hides 9mm behind back*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 24, 2023 06:07 PM (T/Lqj)

11 One thing this Tranhauser B and Target dust up has convinced to do is, vote for Ron.

https://tinyurl.com/3uutdurp

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 24, 2023 06:07 PM (to8pj)

12 Okay, here's the ticket...
DeSantis Pres., Trump VP... rule the Senate, bash folks mercilessly, be the lightning rod.

Posted by: MkY at May 24, 2023 06:07 PM (cPGH3)

13 If only DeSantis doesn't tweet anything mean, I'm sure the press and the left (birm) will be very fair and kind to him and not label him as racist or anything. I know this because I have it very good authority that Trump was "divisive" because he said mean things.

Posted by: 29Victor at May 24, 2023 06:07 PM (BJKQV)

14 Can't wait until DeSantis starts lighting him the f*** up on The Trump Lockdowns.

Shouldn't be a problem. I have it on good authority from OTers here that all's fair in politics. Good.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:08 PM (eOEVl)

15 I remember when there was exactly one Hamburger Mary's off Van Ness in SF. Then they put one in Lahaina on Maui.

So its into a chain now?

Posted by: JEM at May 24, 2023 06:08 PM (ZtYAi)

16 Paul Farhi @farhip
DeSantis, in last two months, has signed bills that:

Stop, I'm hard enough already

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 06:08 PM (0hOvj)

17
Initial Twitter link no good.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 24, 2023 06:08 PM (enJYY)

18 I have no loyalty to any of them.
Their loyalty better damn well be to me.

Posted by: Bosk at May 24, 2023 06:09 PM (VMFAF)

19 Bill Kristol is truly a piece of work.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 24, 2023 06:06 PM (PiwSw)

Like, formed out of a bolus of margarine? - Michaelangelo's little brother Jimmy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 24, 2023 06:09 PM (T/Lqj)

20 If only DeSantis doesn't tweet anything mean, I'm sure the press and the left (birm) will be very fair and kind to him and not label him as racist or anything.

Ah, the straw men are on the march.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:09 PM (eOEVl)

21 Trump doesn't have a spotless record. Let's be fair. Is very soft on 2nd amendment, and the lockdown thing hurts... a lot.
And I like him.

Posted by: MkY at May 24, 2023 06:09 PM (cPGH3)

22 287K on spaces

Posted by: Big Star at May 24, 2023 06:09 PM (Modkf)

23 “You’re too old for this nonsense,” Judge Cooper told Bigo. He said it was important to send a message to Bigo’s followers that this kind of thing couldn’t happen again, and there’d be consequences
Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2023 05:57 PM (NpAcC)

This funeral for the rule of law is going on even longer than McCain's.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:09 PM (tp+tP)

24 Like, formed out of a bolus of margarine?

Points for using bolus.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:09 PM (eOEVl)

25 *hides 9mm behind back*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 24, 2023 06:07 PM (T/Lqj)

Pfft.

Posted by: 1911 at May 24, 2023 06:10 PM (Angsy)

26 I agree the loyalty thing is really bizarre, I don't get that take. Maybe its some big business insider culture thing, I don't know.

All I do know is that if there's one thing Bill Kristol knows other than cruise ships, its being a beta. I would call it his area of expertise

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 06:10 PM (0hOvj)

27 Elon Musk = David Duke ?

Why would a journalist gravely insult African-American Elon thusly?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 24, 2023 06:10 PM (fs1hN)

28 Cant wait...
... but would vote for him if he is on top of ticket.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2023 06:10 PM (ga8qR)

29 325K and servers are swamped

Posted by: Big Star at May 24, 2023 06:10 PM (Modkf)

30 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/
status/1661482586424885248

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 24, 2023 06:10 PM (xPl2J)

31 All I do know is that if there's one thing Bill Kristol knows other than cruise ships, its being a beta. I would call it his area of expertise

I'm pretty sure he's also up to speed on rum, sodomy, and the lash.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:10 PM (eOEVl)

32 Who programs the voting machines ?
Never-mind . . .

Posted by: Next2Nothing at May 24, 2023 06:11 PM (tA1/w)

33 careful

this thread could devolve into a Ron v Don slapfight

Posted by: DB - at May 24, 2023 06:11 PM (geLO8)

34 Bill Kristol = neocon warmonger.

Posted by: JEM at May 24, 2023 06:11 PM (ZtYAi)

35
Heavy sigh.

That Ron isn't waiting until 2028 tells me one thing: he thinks he's saving us from Trump.

Well, he's about to find out what it means to throw yourself on a grenade. There may be nothing left of him by 2028.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2023 06:11 PM (lCaJd)

36 "I'm pretty sure he's also up to speed on rum, sodomy, and the lash."

but mostly sodomy.

Posted by: Bosk at May 24, 2023 06:11 PM (VMFAF)

37 Plot twist! DeSantis is the DNC Bomber.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 24, 2023 06:12 PM (VpRzs)

38 If he is the nomination I will vote for him, but he has no shot at winning Fraud Pennsylvania

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2023 06:12 PM (xhxe8)

39 and yet trump is calling attention to all the things the dems will say about desantis if desantis is the nominee next year. almost doing desantis a favor.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 24, 2023 06:12 PM (B1FKF)

40 Pfft.
Posted by: 1911 at May 24, 2023 06:10 PM (Angsy)

I am actually looking into a 1911. I like my 9, but, well, best to be prepared. And versatile.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 24, 2023 06:12 PM (T/Lqj)

41 Nobody under the age of 40 knows who the hell David Duke is, anyway. this is like a reference to Bull Connor, OK boomer, time for your tapioca

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 06:12 PM (0hOvj)

42
this thread could devolve into a Ron v Don slapfight

Posted by: DB - at May 24, 2023 06:11 PM (geLO

(looks at clock)

Four hours to the ONT.

Posted by: 1911 at May 24, 2023 06:12 PM (Angsy)

43 >>>Can't wait until DeSantis starts lighting him the f*** up on The Trump Lockdowns.

Will he, though? So far, Meatball's strategy has been to mostly ignore Trump's attacks and stay focused on policy achievements. How much will (or should) he change that once he's in?

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:12 PM (tp+tP)

44 I haven't heard Trump, DeSantis, Ramalamadingdong, nor any other candidate address fixing election integrity in the critical states, much less put any money behind actions to secure the same. Hard for me to take any of them seriously given these facts.

Vote Harderer™

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at May 24, 2023 06:12 PM (oa2eG)

45 Bill Kristol @BillKristol
I tend (perhaps foolishly) to discount the Alpha/Beta Male stuff.

Of course you do. You're non-binary.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 24, 2023 06:12 PM (Xrfse)

46 I like DeSantis.

I like Trump (except he's old)

I hate talking politics.

I'll assume lurking mode before it turns into a War of Northern Aggression thread.

*hides 9mm behind back*

Well, .45. Otherwise, you’re completely correct.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2023 06:12 PM (nfrXX)

47 4ook people cant twitter can't handle it? oh my.

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 24, 2023 06:12 PM (Lavx8)

48 He gave him an endorsement. He didn’t fucking jump on a grenade for him.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 06:12 PM (MNhXM)

49 They should've made sure this would work before they went live.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 24, 2023 06:13 PM (xPl2J)

50 NeverTrumpers kind of flows. But NeverDeSantisers sounds kind of stupid. How about NeverConservative, that should cover it.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 24, 2023 06:13 PM (fs1hN)

51 That Ron isn't waiting until 2028 tells me one thing: he thinks he's saving us from Trump.

Right? Doesn't he know it's Trump's TURN?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:13 PM (eOEVl)

52 I can't hear anything!! Is this thing on??

Posted by: runner at May 24, 2023 06:13 PM (16bie)

53 this thread could devolve into a Ron v Don slapfight
Posted by: DB

Not by me. I'm up for the next Douglas/Lincoln debates. May the best man win... and that includes Nikki, Crispy Creme and whoever else is looking to get retired.

Posted by: MkY at May 24, 2023 06:13 PM (cPGH3)

54 " Trump doesn't have a spotless record. Let's be fair. Is very soft on 2nd amendment, and the lockdown thing hurts... a lot.
And I like him."

=====

He also has a 0.0% chance of being President.
[But we are supposed to ignore that part]

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 24, 2023 06:13 PM (i7Q7S)

55 there is one reason and one reason only get the left, uses the full alphabet for stuff like LGBTQABCYX…..

They can claim ridiculous things because they are mentally unstable. For instance, if you oppose men in the women’s room that is an anti gay stance in addition to everything else that falls under their imagined umbrella of victimhood.

Posted by: Trip at May 24, 2023 06:13 PM (jwo8Z)

56
Why does Ron D and Elon M think that anyone north of 29 years of age can navigate to their 'get a room' room?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 24, 2023 06:14 PM (enJYY)

57 look I got a 9mm, the ammo is cheaper. Still waiting on my flawless background check to clear a month and a half later, though. They're really slow walking this stuff.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 06:14 PM (0hOvj)

58 Maybe it's being sabotaged by woke Twitter employees.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 24, 2023 06:14 PM (xPl2J)

59 >>>That Ron isn't waiting until 2028 tells me one thing: he thinks he's saving us from Trump.

He'd be out of the news cycle for two if he waits.
Two years is forever in politics...

His only other option is for Florida to kick the other 49 states out of the Union. Reverse Succession. Then he can be Presiden tof the United State of America.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2023 06:14 PM (ga8qR)

60 1920s radio shows has better production values. This is blowing up in Ron's face and reminds me of Biden in his basement.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at May 24, 2023 06:14 PM (Rpdcm)

61 well this is a black eye for Elon Musk and DeSantis as well

did Musk not test this system?

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:15 PM (KRtlO)

62 careful

this thread could devolve into a Ron v Don slapfight
Posted by: DB - at May 24, 2023 06:11 PM (geLO

That doesn't sound like the Horde *I* know.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:15 PM (tp+tP)

63 With this twitter town hall it appears Ron is switching it to WARP SPEED.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 24, 2023 06:15 PM (to8pj)

64 Does Bill Kristol need those anti-gravity suspensors like fat Baron Harkonnen in order to get around?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 24, 2023 06:15 PM (fs1hN)

65 NeverTrumpers kind of flows. But NeverDeSantisers sounds kind of stupid.

Has to be like NeverRons, which sounds like a region in Middle Earth.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 06:15 PM (0hOvj)

66 The Jan 5th bomber's car was last seen pulling into a parking lot in Langley Va...

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at May 24, 2023 06:15 PM (CecP5)

67 It's always impressive how the MFM/Progressives/DNC project their Nazism onto everyone else.

It's also impressive that there are people who still follow that BS after it's been discredited by truth, history, and reason for generations.

Repeating yet another Big Lie is part and parcel of everything they are.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 24, 2023 06:15 PM (aXxgO)

68 Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at May 24, 2023 06:12 PM (oa2eG)

I’ll give DeSantis a few weeks from his announcement to talk about it before I join in total agreement with you.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 06:15 PM (MNhXM)

69 1920s radio shows has better production values. This is blowing up in Ron's face and reminds me of Biden in his basement.

Yeah, something tells me you'd have drawn that conclusion no matter what.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:15 PM (eOEVl)

70 "The Servers are Straining A Bit"
--------
[grunts]

Posted by: A Server at May 24, 2023 06:15 PM (+apjR)

71 UUHHUUUUHH... LET"S GET READY TO RUHHHMMMBLEEEE!!!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2023 06:15 PM (up/3i)

72 >>>Can't wait until DeSantis starts lighting him the f*** up on The Trump Lockdowns.

Yes, this will be fun.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 24, 2023 06:16 PM (7R+co)

73 >>>Why does Ron D and Elon M think that anyone north of 29 years of age can navigate to their 'get a room' room?

it's easy to find. it's just not working. They say there's a "massive" number of people connected but it sure seems like twitter should be able to handle 500,000.

Maybe they're getting DNI'd.

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:16 PM (KRtlO)

74 Maybe it's being sabotaged by woke Twitter employees.

The digital equivalent of running and pulling the mic plugs because you can't stand someone who is talking.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 06:16 PM (0hOvj)

75 this thread could devolve into a Ron v Don slapfight

Huh? There's no track record of that ever happening here at the HQ. Heh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 24, 2023 06:16 PM (Xrfse)

76 Meatball Ron got cold feet.

Posted by: Grape Juice Plus at May 24, 2023 06:16 PM (ufJfM)

77 NeverTrumpers kind of flows. But NeverDeSantisers sounds kind of stupid.

I'm kind of surprised nobody's made anything of "DeSantisized for your convenience".

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:16 PM (eOEVl)

78 >I'll assume lurking mode before it turns into a War of Northern Aggression thread.

You mean the War of Southern Intransigence

Posted by: DB - at May 24, 2023 06:17 PM (geLO8)

79 >>> This is blowing up in Ron's face and reminds me of Biden in his basement.

literally every claim of Trump's superiority has to do with showbiz bullshit. No one ever praises him for, say, his dedication to getting shit actually done.

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:17 PM (KRtlO)

80 Maybe they're getting DNI'd.
Posted by: ace

NSA testing "pulling the plug"

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2023 06:17 PM (ga8qR)

81 I don't need a twitter app for this, right??

Posted by: runner at May 24, 2023 06:17 PM (16bie)

82 I wonder if Ron will bring up that Don Jr didn't want us to boycott AB?

Posted by: Maj. Healey Worrying About Due Process Later at May 24, 2023 06:17 PM (to8pj)

83 Vanity Fair is saying that they're all Hitler.

Of course if Vivek or Scott got to 10% in the polls they'd be Nazis too.

Posted by: JEM at May 24, 2023 06:18 PM (8erNz)

84 Not watching, don't really care.

There is no rationale for a DeSantis run in 24.

It's Quixotic, pointless, counter-productive and ultimately, doomed to failure.

This has GOPe/Rovian dick cheese written all over it.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2023 06:18 PM (up/3i)

85 They're going to have to pull the plug on this soon.

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:18 PM (KRtlO)

86 Yeah, something tells me you'd have drawn that conclusion no matter what.
______
Actually I like DeSantis. Whoever advised him to do a big a announcement on the web, audio only, with no supporters present should be fired.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at May 24, 2023 06:18 PM (Rpdcm)

87 Trump combines the worst aspects of strongman jackassery from NYC mayors with the oily used car salesman.

I do hope we are well rid of him this cycle.

Posted by: sven at May 24, 2023 06:18 PM (X0I7i)

88 You know, a Trump-DeSantis ticket would be the worst thing the Commiecrats could dream up in the worst of their drug induced hallucinations.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 24, 2023 06:18 PM (pohLc)

89 it's easy to find. it's just not working. They say there's a "massive" number of people connected but it sure seems like twitter should be able to handle 500,000.

Maybe they're getting DNI'd.
Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:16 PM (KRtlO)

If so, that's not so bad. DeSantis can make that Exhibit A for why he's the guy the Left is *really* afraid of, if they're willing to go to the trouble.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:18 PM (tp+tP)

90 what a disaster

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 24, 2023 06:18 PM (gzz0o)

91 "Look, Rob DeSanctimonious came to me asking for help," he wrote in one post.

"He was losing badly, by 31 points, to popular Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam. He was getting ready to drop out of the race--Ran a terrible campaign!

"Ron told me he had one last chance, my Support & Endorsement, which Putnam, and everyone else, wanted also. I gave it to Ron, and the race was over. In one day, he went from losing badly, to winning by a lot. With 3 large Trump rallies, he won the general election in an upset. Disloyal!!!"

Butthurt, thy name is Trump.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:18 PM (eOEVl)

92 And this guy wants to go to Mars?

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 24, 2023 06:19 PM (xPl2J)

93 At issue is a measure the Republican-led Legislature approved in April that bars minors from attending drag shows with "lewd" performances.

Why do you think all the 60s folks worked so hard to overturn obscenity statues? Why did they go all absolutist on "freedom"? (Really it was license.)

So they could break down all the walls, remove all the morality, deaden all the conscience, and then everyone could participate in their hedonistic utopia. This has always been the goal of the progressives - to enable pleasure without consequence, no matter you think "pleasure" is. They think this is glorious. Anyone with a remnant of a conscience thinks otherwise.

But stopping one piece of this is not enough. Progressivism will drag us right back here, eventually.

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2023 06:19 PM (xlzFg)

94 I am actually looking into a 1911. I like my 9, but, well, best to be prepared. And versatile.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

Rock Island Armory has a lovely 1911. Not ridiculously expensive like a Kimber, and it's reliable. I really like mine.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2023 06:19 PM (NBGQS)

95 Unreal. How could they not plan for 700K people in the space?

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 24, 2023 06:19 PM (Lavx8)

96 "The Washington Post's 'journalist' Paul Fahri basically makes the Conservative Case for Ron DeSantis. He means it to be disqualifying, of course."

Here! Just shut up and take my ~~money~~ vote already!"

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 24, 2023 06:19 PM (aXxgO)

97 anyway, the main difference between trump and disantis might be that desantis might nicely concede when biden gets 95 million votes.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at May 24, 2023 06:19 PM (B1FKF)

98 >>>JUST IN: DeSantis releases campaign ad before announcing Presidential run on Twitter Spaces

"I’m running for President to lead our Great American Comeback."
Posted by: weft cut looop

GAC?

What the hell. Kids will love it.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2023 06:19 PM (ga8qR)

99 Actually I like DeSantis. Whoever advised him to do a big a announcement on the web, audio only, with no supporters present should be fired.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at May 24, 2023 06:18 PM (Rpdcm)

Fine by me, the check already cleared.

Posted by: Big K, Karl Rove at May 24, 2023 06:19 PM (Angsy)

100 I just reported the Twitter Space for "Self Harm"

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 24, 2023 06:19 PM (gzz0o)

101 >>>95 Unreal. How could they not plan for 700K people in the space?

no idea. Maybe it's a Denial of Service attack.

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:19 PM (KRtlO)

102 Preparing to launch? Mkay

Posted by: runner at May 24, 2023 06:19 PM (16bie)

103 I wish the media (all media, including this blog) would stop calling politicians nazis. My father fought actual nazis in the freezing cold. Throwing around the nazi label is peak ignorant and offensive.

Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at May 24, 2023 06:20 PM (9X60i)

104 Not watching, don't really care.

There is no rationale for a DeSantis run in 24.

It's Quixotic, pointless, counter-productive and ultimately, doomed to failure.

This has GOPe/Rovian dick cheese written all over it.

Strangely, I've not gotten any messages from Rove and the GOPe.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:20 PM (eOEVl)

105 656K

Posted by: Big Star at May 24, 2023 06:20 PM (Modkf)

106 Ace - Content, content, content. I don't see how you keep it up, but it is damned impressive.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2023 06:20 PM (Khgxe)

107 The restaurant chain Hamburger Mary's is suing Gov. Ron DeSantis and Florida

Who? Is this some east coast only thing? Never heard of them. I have no doubt they can find some idiot judge who will rule for them but they shouldn't find any support at all with any higher judges in the federal system.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 06:20 PM (0hOvj)

108 Not going to fall for any bullshit argument about either Trump or DeSantis. I'm out.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 24, 2023 06:20 PM (BdMk6)

109 Actually I like DeSantis. Whoever advised him to do a big a announcement on the web, audio only, with no supporters present should be fired.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at May 24, 2023 06:18 PM (Rpdcm)

Meatspace rallies could get overwhelmed by Trump supporters. Twitter spaces are potentially more controlled. Not exactly a strong horse move, but it is what it is.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 24, 2023 06:20 PM (7R+co)

110 >>>Fine by me, the check already cleared.

Posted by: Big K, Karl Rove a

Sure sure, the guy taking money from Budweiser and Disney, and defending them, is totally in a position to make that accusation

Tell me again that Trump doesn't take corporate money, just go ahead and tell me that

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:20 PM (KRtlO)

111 "ended"

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 24, 2023 06:20 PM (xPl2J)

112 Don’t worry, the Dems have enstupidized our society so thoroughly that most young people think David Duke is a 50s rock star.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 24, 2023 06:20 PM (x99cN)

113 Well, at least the country clubbers get to see in vivid brutal terms that RD isn't any more "respectable" than Trump is according to the regime's faux "elites." So we might as well back the stronger horse since they will only throw more and more horseshit on your dream of a clean and shiny pony.

Posted by: Bamanarama at May 24, 2023 06:20 PM (uH1aC)

114 Trump puts ketchup on steak

I mean, come on...!

Posted by: DB - at May 24, 2023 06:20 PM (geLO8)

115 84 Not watching, don't really care.

There is no rationale for a DeSantis run in 24.

It's Quixotic, pointless, counter-productive and ultimately, doomed to failure.

This has GOPe/Rovian dick cheese written all over it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2023 06:18 PM (up/3i)

———

Agree.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 24, 2023 06:21 PM (VpRzs)

116 @98

>>"I’m running for President to lead our Great American Comeback."

What, was Make America Great Again-Again, taken or something?

Be better Meat Ball.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2023 06:21 PM (up/3i)

117 Are the Russians hacking Twitter for Trump???

Posted by: davidt at May 24, 2023 06:21 PM (SYTee)

118 Oh Lord Trump is going to go all 14 year old school yard insulting on this announcement screw up.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 06:21 PM (MNhXM)

119 literally every claim of Trump's superiority has to do with showbiz bullshit. No one ever praises him for, say, his dedication to getting shit actually done.
Posted by: ace

This. He said many right things but failed to execute.

I don't think had DeSantis been President in 2016 that Comey et al would have lasted a week.

Posted by: JEM at May 24, 2023 06:21 PM (8erNz)

120 wonder if a couple of months from now and Ron is still down by 25 or 30

will he still lend his name to bashing Trump ?

be interesting to watch cuz if this occurs, he will finish his political career

but Rove will be happy and that's what matters

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 06:21 PM (us2H3)

121 I wish the media (all media, including this blog) would stop calling politicians nazis.
------

Only a Nazi would say something like this.

Posted by: Woke Progressive at May 24, 2023 06:21 PM (Khgxe)

122 Funny how the only thing the MSM hates more than its own viewers is free speech.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2023 06:21 PM (guGkK)

123 I wish the media (all media, including this blog) would stop calling politicians nazis. My father fought actual nazis in the freezing cold. Throwing around the nazi label is peak ignorant and offensive.
Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner

And an arguement could be made that at least nazis loved their country.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2023 06:22 PM (ga8qR)

124 Failure to launch

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 24, 2023 06:22 PM (Lavx8)

125 Any chance this is all a massive fake-out and DeSantis will appear here in the comment thread and announce his campaign?

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:22 PM (tp+tP)

126 >>I continue being perplexed by Trump's call for "loyalty."
Posted by Ace at 06:59 PM Comments

He is a marketer and he knows "loyalty" resonates among the people he needs to keep in his camp.

It affirms the virtue you want them to have.

Posted by: American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Ed. at May 24, 2023 06:22 PM (i51/4)

127 Vanity Fair is saying that they're all Hitler.
____

We're all Hitler in their eyes.

I was visiting a Jesuit parish (I had to, don't ask) and he was sermonizing about how the world is imperfect and you shouldn't look for satisfaction here, but in God instead. Very fine message and a good reminder. But then he went on a litany of what is wrong with the world "The world gives us racism, the world gives us white supremacy..." He's obviously too stupid to understand that the world sees most of the congregation as white supremacists just for attending Catholic mass, and is seemingly very close to doing something about it.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 24, 2023 06:22 PM (fs1hN)

128 Somewhere Rupert Murdoch is laughing.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 24, 2023 06:22 PM (xPl2J)

129 Not going to fall for any bullshit argument about either Trump or DeSantis.

How about the banana in the tailpipe? Would you fall for the banana in the tailpipe?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:22 PM (eOEVl)

130 out: "Trump fatigue"
in: "DeSantis lassitude"

Yay!

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at May 24, 2023 06:22 PM (DTX3h)

131 I realize they are having technical issues, but that aside do you need a twitter account to hear this, assuming it gets going?

Posted by: bluebell at May 24, 2023 06:22 PM (pTb/Z)

132 Of course if Vivek or Scott got to 10% in the polls they'd be Nazis too.
Posted by: JEM at May 24, 2023 06:18 PM (8erNz)

Well, Vivek is of Indian descent, so the swastika thing should be easy to pin on him.
And Scott is still not married but old enough to run for President, so obviously he's tres weird.

When you can think like a progressive (even though it hurts*) you can see these things coming a mile off.
(* Just have to hold your breath long enough to not quite pass out....)

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2023 06:23 PM (xlzFg)

133 'And it's all about Trump and "loyalty" to Trump. Of course.'

I'm loyal to Trump but he needs to shut the hell up sometimes and reflect on who the real enemies are.
(i.e. people like the judge mentioned above. He wouldn't like where I'd put my foot.)

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 24, 2023 06:23 PM (roH4R)

134 And DeSantis ate pudding wrong!

talk about a couple of mooks..

Posted by: DB - at May 24, 2023 06:23 PM (geLO8)

135 I haven't been this excited since the last time I had gout.

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2023 06:23 PM (iayUP)

136 Are they saying desantis is duke or musk is duke

I'm so old that I remember when David Duke went overseas to write for the Arab News about the WoT the left suddenly, if not loved him...kinda openly liked David Duke.

Of course they actually DID love Alex Jones for his views on the WoT as well at the time. Part of the reason he ended up being cast, AS HIMSELF, in Through a Scanner Darkly.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2023 06:23 PM (lc5cP)

137 I have to admit that I got so excited about DeSantis' announcement that my junk tumbled out of my ladies bathing suit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2023 06:23 PM (guGkK)

138 I wish the media (all media, including this blog) would stop calling politicians nazis. My father fought actual nazis in the freezing cold. Throwing around the nazi label is peak ignorant and offensive.
Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner

Sounds like something the son of Nazi would say.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at May 24, 2023 06:23 PM (ppBhU)

139 Lots of hand wringing going on. I think I will let this play out before applying charcoal lighter and match to my thinning hair.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 24, 2023 06:23 PM (pohLc)

140
Meanwhile, Ron lost the vote of 80 million Floridians who consumed the 'Early Bird Special" of 22 ounces of Prime Rib at 4 o'clock and decided to call it a night.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 24, 2023 06:24 PM (enJYY)

141 >>>There is no rationale for a DeSantis run in 24.

It's Quixotic, pointless, counter-productive and ultimately, doomed to failure.

This has GOPe/Rovian dick cheese written all over it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2023 06:18 PM (up/3i)

right, except that the leftwing media AND nevertrumpers are now trying to kill DeSantis' candidacy and boost trump's

Remember Rush Limbaugh? "They'll tell you who they fear.'

But i guess that's out the window now because it's inconvenient for Trump

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:24 PM (KRtlO)

142 Lol.

No one under 40 even knows who David Duke is.

At least go with the only historical figure people under 40 know.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 24, 2023 06:24 PM (tlfKR)

143 I haven't been this excited since the last time I had gout.
Posted by: fd

Stubbing your inflamed toe if pretty exciting.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 24, 2023 06:24 PM (ga8qR)

144 I have to admit that I got so excited about DeSantis' announcement that my junk tumbled out of my ladies bathing suit.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2023 06:23 PM (guGkK)
---------

We've got you covered!

Posted by: Target at May 24, 2023 06:24 PM (pTb/Z)

145 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status
/1661498079386931206

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 24, 2023 06:24 PM (xPl2J)

146 Who can't wait for Jared,, Ivanka, and Omarosa Manigault Newman to be back in the WH?

Posted by: Maj. Healey Worrying About Due Process Later at May 24, 2023 06:25 PM (to8pj)

147 Trump Jr. just tweeted DeSaster. And he's not wrong. What a cluster.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 24, 2023 06:25 PM (Gu48G)

148 It's back on.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:25 PM (tp+tP)

149 Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 24, 2023 06:24 PM (enJYY)

Yeah, we usually do it at 3PM and are in bed by 6!

Posted by: lorien1973 at May 24, 2023 06:25 PM (Lavx8)

150 119 literally every claim of Trump's superiority has to do with showbiz bullshit. No one ever praises him for, say, his dedication to getting shit actually done.
Posted by: ace

He beat Cankles and then he put 3 cons on the SCOTUS

no one else could have done that, it was the greatest political upset in US history

but on the bright side, if Cankles would have won, the posts on the 2nd amendment woulda wrote themselves

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 06:25 PM (us2H3)

151 So they got him on a new link now without waiting for the 700k to find it and join.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 24, 2023 06:25 PM (xPl2J)

152 It's back on.
Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:25 PM (tp+tP)

*bartender drops down behind bar*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2023 06:26 PM (guGkK)

153 Trump needs DeSantis to be a threat. It affects the timing the Dems try to jail him.

Too early, Trump wins. Too late, DeSantis isn't defined and can win.

It's like the Standoff in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. DeSantis is The Good, the Dems are The Bad, and Jerry Mathers is The Ugly.

I think we need some Ugly, the Good is going to give us business as usual.

Posted by: Minuteman at May 24, 2023 06:26 PM (LaNzR)

154 Okay, he's just announced. It's official.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:26 PM (tp+tP)

155 @142 "Lol.
No one under 40 even knows who David Duke is.
At least go with the only historical figure people under 40 know. --Bitter Clinger."

Don't tell them. They're still trotting out "But Timothy McVeigh!"

Posted by: Zek at May 24, 2023 06:26 PM (5FPX4)

156 it's back up:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/
1661498079386931206

he just announced "I am running for President"

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:26 PM (KRtlO)

157 No one under 40 even knows who David Duke is.

At least go with the only historical figure people under 40 know.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 24, 2023 06:24 PM (tlfKR)

BS

he the kid from the DOH

Posted by: REDACTED Jr at May 24, 2023 06:26 PM (us2H3)

158 Anyone who is loyal to a politician has learned nothing from the last 20 or 30 years of Republican perfidy. Politicians are tools, nothing more. If I think they'll get the job done, I'll use them. Otherwise, not. There will be no talk of loyalty on my part. If they are loyal to me, in the limited sense of pursuing the ends I care about in the main, then they'll get my vote. That's it.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at May 24, 2023 06:26 PM (ppBhU)

159 Love Elon but he's broken Obama's record for the most "ums" and "uhs" per sentence. Thought Barry's record would last for all time, but not even close.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 24, 2023 06:26 PM (Gu48G)

160
There is no rationale for a DeSantis run in 24.
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'Rationale', by whom?

Not sure about that. The Dems are probably thrilled that there is dissention in the GOP, and are/will promote it. Moreover, I believe that the Dems, *want* Trump to run, figuring that he is such damaged goods, that the Dems will have a cakewalk. This *might* be true. It cannot, at any rate, be dismissed.

Posted by: Woke Progressive at May 24, 2023 06:27 PM (0v4YR)

161 >>There is no rationale for a DeSantis run in 24.

It's Quixotic, pointless, counter-productive and ultimately, doomed to failure.

This has GOPe/Rovian dick cheese written all over it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

We're just the guys to do it!

Posted by: Blutowski at May 24, 2023 06:27 PM (i51/4)

162 Yes! I broke the news first!!

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:27 PM (tp+tP)

163 Who? Is this some east coast only thing? Never heard of them

No. Hamburger Mary's started off in San Francisco on the fringe of the Castro. Maybe 35 years ago.

Then they put one in Lahaina on Maui maybe 25 years ago.

Now I guess they're chasing other resort areas.

Posted by: JEM at May 24, 2023 06:27 PM (8erNz)

164 Prediction-
Anna Wintour will never let Casey DeSantis appear on the cover of Vanity Fair even during breast cancer awareness month.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2023 06:27 PM (NpAcC)

165 America must TRUMP identity politics. Heh.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:27 PM (eOEVl)

166 he just announced "I am running for President"
Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:26 PM (KRtlO)

Churchillian!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 24, 2023 06:27 PM (guGkK)

167 Remember Rush Limbaugh? "They'll tell you who they fear.'

But i guess that's out the window now because it's inconvenient for Trump

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:24 PM (KRtlO)

They thought Trump would be the easier candidate in 2016.

Also, anyone who been following Richard Baris' polling knows that Trump is the only shot in 2024. A full 18% of his voters would sit out the election if he is not the nominee. Only 2% of DeSantis voters say the same.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 24, 2023 06:27 PM (gzz0o)

168 DeSantis

former military officer
governor of Florida
Yale University and Harvard Law School
Special Assistant U.S. attorney
honorable discharge from active military duty in 2010
founding member of the Freedom Caucus
frequently criticized Special Council Robert Mueller's investigation

Ima voting for him about 12 or my 13 Voter IDs

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 24, 2023 06:27 PM (BRHaw)

169 It's also impressive that there are people who still follow that BS after it's been discredited by truth, history, and reason for generations.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 24, 2023 06:15 PM (aXxgO)

It's part of magical/religious thinking. You say the right word and everyone genuflects. You say a different word and everyone boos and hisses. They don't even examine them, they just give the correct response. The Enlightenment and Reformation broke some people out of that - until history circled right back around with worshipping science....

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2023 06:28 PM (xlzFg)

170 Good.

Now, how do you overcome the cheating in the cities that shut down simultaneously?

Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag? at May 24, 2023 06:28 PM (qs1Py)

171 Guess I'll go back to my laundry.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe registration ends 5/31! at May 24, 2023 06:28 PM (pTb/Z)

172 Has anyone said vote harder yet?

Posted by: NCKate at May 24, 2023 06:28 PM (d5Qya)

173 There is no rationale for a DeSantis run in 24.

What's the rationale for a Trump run in 24? You doomers insist that no Republican can get elected, after all.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at May 24, 2023 06:28 PM (ppBhU)

174
Not watching, don't really care.

There is no rationale for a DeSantis run in 24.

It's Quixotic, pointless, counter-productive and ultimately, doomed to failure.

This has GOPe/Rovian dick cheese written all over it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2023 06:18 PM (up/3i)

———

Agree.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken

======

Agree.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 24, 2023 06:29 PM (lCaJd)

175
*bartender drops down behind bar*
Posted by: Cicero
--------

For the love of mike, this time secure the bottles of whiskey off of the bar.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2023 06:29 PM (0v4YR)

176 159 Love Elon but he's broken Obama's record for the most "ums" and "uhs" per sentence. Thought Barry's record would last for all time, but not even close.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 24, 2023 06:26 PM (Gu48G)

But 1 of them has an IQ over 99

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 24, 2023 06:29 PM (BRHaw)

177 Is he also announcing how he will beat the cheat? 'Cause without that, none of it matters.

Posted by: DJ at May 24, 2023 06:29 PM (H5y4s)

178 Good.

Now, how do you overcome the cheating in the cities that shut down simultaneously?
Posted by: Have you figured out that the gay flag is a p3d0 flag?

You don't. Which is why this is all shake weight motion theater.

There is no road to 270. And they haven't shot the people responsible

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2023 06:29 PM (GnNvu)

179 Anna Wintour will never let Casey DeSantis appear on the cover of Vanity Fair even during breast cancer awareness month.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2023 06:27 PM (NpAcC)

It's probably only a matter of time before Vanity Fair or somebody starts questioning whether Casey ever had breast cancer.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:29 PM (tp+tP)

180 "We understand that government is not entertainment. It's not about building a brand."

Ouch.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:29 PM (eOEVl)

181 This has GOPe/Rovian dick cheese written all over it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

Rove figures there are plenty of curbs out there

just waiting to have a dolt kicked on them

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 06:29 PM (us2H3)

182
Vanity Fair is saying that they're all Hitler.

Of course if Vivek or Scott got to 10% in the polls they'd be Nazis too.
Posted by: JEM

They're Hitler Youth now.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2023 06:30 PM (63Dwl)

183 Guess I'll go back to my laundry.
Posted by: bluebell
-----

This is code for, 'Strop my shiv', isn't it?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2023 06:30 PM (0v4YR)

184 Has to be like NeverRons, which sounds like a region in Middle Earth.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 06:15 PM (0hOvj)

Yes, it's under the mountains. Like that place where the dead rested until called forth. Except these are just desperate old people who orate in the darkness while waiting for their righteous reward. The other guys just vote Democrat; these guys are.

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2023 06:30 PM (xlzFg)

185 "How about the banana in the tailpipe? Would you fall for the banana in the tailpipe?"

Every day that ends in a Y darling.

Posted by: Atomic tranny dog boy at May 24, 2023 06:31 PM (VMFAF)

186 There is no rationale for a DeSantis run in 24.

What's the rationale for a Trump run in 24? You doomers insist that no Republican can get elected, after all.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at May 24, 2023 06:28 PM (ppBhU)

To win you need tin invest $100 of millions of dollars into ballot harvesting operations. Which the Dems are way ahead. Spending half a Billion dollars in the primary attacking each other is a waste of precious resources that could be building those ballot harvesting ops in swing states.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 24, 2023 06:31 PM (gzz0o)

187 @141

>>But i guess that's out the window now because it's inconvenient for Trump

Please, explicate the rationale for a DeSantis run while Trump is the candidate?

How exactly is he going to delineate himself from Trump?

He's literally a creation of Trump.

Remember Trump is single handidly responsible for the fighting-fighting Republicans that you see on the national stage.

These clowns did not exist before Trump, which is why we have Trump.

DeSantis was a useless congressional chucklehead before he bailed and was given a major assist in winning in Florida.

He has been a great Governor largely because he has a legislature that is on script with him, absent that, he would have been able to accomplish jack squat nothing.

In your heart of Hearts, do you really believe DeSantis is going to beat Trump?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2023 06:31 PM (up/3i)

188 I would prefer that DeSantis become the nominee but I don't think he will.

DeSantis takes Trump's Twitter Hot Takes and turns them into policy. But hey, that doesn't fill stadiums for rallies.

Posted by: ballistic at May 24, 2023 06:31 PM (oXNqT)

189 This is code for, 'Strop my shiv', isn't it?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2023 06:30 PM (0v4YR)
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Shhhhhhh. It's in my apron pocket.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe registration ends 5/31! at May 24, 2023 06:31 PM (pTb/Z)

190 "We must end the culture of losing that has infected the Republican Party in recent years."

Yeah, he's a GOPe stooge.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:31 PM (eOEVl)

191 >>>
Also, anyone who been following Richard Baris' polling knows that Trump is the only shot in 2024. A full 18% of his voters would sit out the election if he is not the nominee. Only 2% of DeSantis voters say the same.

I'm getting to "sitting out for Trump."

So don't play that game. We can tank an election as well as you guys can.

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:31 PM (KRtlO)

192 But 1 of them has an IQ over 99
Posted by: rhennigantx
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Ah...but one has a Nobel Prize.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2023 06:32 PM (0v4YR)

193 This has GOPe/Rovian dick cheese written all over it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

Is it confirmed that Rove is involved with the DeSantis campaign?

Posted by: davidt at May 24, 2023 06:32 PM (SYTee)

194 The need for DeSantis is that Trump was self-centered and ineffective last time and I'm not convinced he's learned anything.

Posted by: JEM at May 24, 2023 06:32 PM (8erNz)

195 "no substitute for victory....[GOP's] culture of losing"

Well, he sounds determined, at least.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:32 PM (tp+tP)

196
DeSantis and Musk:
As my wife would say, "Well that was anti-climactic."

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 24, 2023 06:32 PM (enJYY)

197 Only reason I wanted Trump to be unopposed ( by a competent rival) in the primary is because I know the majority Trump avid fans will stay home if he’s not the nominee giving the GOPs slim chance to no chance to win. . Also I’d rather not be further disgusted by the guy during a primary fight I will likely end up having to vote for in the general.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 06:32 PM (MNhXM)

198 everything with Team Trump is fucking threats, and I'm getting sick of it.

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:32 PM (KRtlO)

199 Slap fights, pissing matches and cock jousting are healthy activities during a primary scrimmage.

Remain calm! All is well!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 24, 2023 06:32 PM (fY84s)

200 In your heart of Hearts, do you really believe DeSantis is going to beat Trump?

I do.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:33 PM (eOEVl)

201 Shhhhhhh. It's in my apron pocket.
Posted by: bluebell
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[sits down]
[shuts up]

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2023 06:33 PM (06vRX)

202 rhennigantx:
Yale University and Harvard Law School
Special Assistant U.S. attorney

Yeah, those two concern me actually. Those have become pretty significant negatives to me now.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 24, 2023 06:33 PM (aXxgO)

203 He's talking about the founding fathers. Oh God! Not this conservative nerd shit again.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 24, 2023 06:33 PM (gzz0o)

204 Rock Island Armory has a lovely 1911. Not ridiculously expensive like a Kimber, and it's reliable. I really like mine.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2023 06:19 PM (NBGQS)

Cool. Mrs. Mahon has asked me more than once if I want a new gub.

Have I mentioned she is awesome?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 24, 2023 06:33 PM (T/Lqj)

205 Are they saying desantis is duke or musk is duke

---------

"Embrace the power of AND, H8R!"

Redrum DeathSanguination (h/t Ace) is now Literally Literally Meatball Hitler, Literally Meatball Stalin, AND Literally Meatball Mussolini ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 24, 2023 06:33 PM (0wy0o)

206 I will not be voting for the person that supported Rona Romney, Turtle, and McCarthy for leadership positions.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Worrying About Due Process Later at May 24, 2023 06:33 PM (to8pj)

207 Why Twitter?

I can think for myself.

Good answer.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:34 PM (eOEVl)

208 David Duke was not available
........

and Adolf Hitler is dead

Posted by: wth at May 24, 2023 06:34 PM (v0R5T)

209 Meatball is lacking in 2 categories, name ID and charisma

other than that, he's scrumptious

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 06:34 PM (us2H3)

210 Slap fights, pissing matches and cock jousting are healthy activities during a primary scrimmage.
-------

Yeah. All of those ugly things I said about Joe during the primaries? I was just joshing.

Posted by: Kamala at May 24, 2023 06:34 PM (06vRX)

211 There's no way to spin this has been a clusterfuck of a launch for Rob, and he's supposed to have all the kewl twitter kids on his side making it work.

Posted by: UwU_Power at May 24, 2023 06:34 PM (3kWw+)

212 I'll say this about the use of Twitter Spaces for this.

Somewhere yesterday (it may have been here, I honestly don't remember), I saw someone explain the difference between Trump and DeSantis thusly: "Trump wants to treat the media like opponents in a mud brawl. DeSantis wants to treat them like lepers."

I think that's 100% accurate, and this is reflective of that difference.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:35 PM (tp+tP)

213 Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 06:21 PM (us2H3)

Would you vote for him in the general?

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 06:35 PM (MNhXM)

214 OK, some audio just started. It's pretty shitty.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 24, 2023 06:35 PM (sWM8x)

215 oh by the way, Richard Barris made a ton of bad projections in 2022. I listened to him THEN. Why would I listen to him now?

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:35 PM (KRtlO)

216 the Vanity Fair headline says

we will do the same we did to Trump to any other Pub

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 06:35 PM (us2H3)

217 There's no way to spin this has been a clusterfuck of a launch for Rob, and he's supposed to have all the kewl twitter kids on his side making it work.

I see. You'd prefer that it go through the MSM.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:35 PM (eOEVl)

218 I know it isn't great for him, but why is Twitter Spaces not working his fault?

Posted by: DJ at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (H5y4s)

219 It’s weird people are going ape shit for a guy who has been a government employee all his adult life.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (VpRzs)

220 Trey Gowdy is doing Tucker's old time slot this week and evidently gets the first television interview with DeSantis tonight.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (NpAcC)

221 [insert name of GOP nominee] is the WORST PERSON EVER!

Posted by: A Handy Word Macro for the MSM at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (PiwSw)

222 "I will not be voting for the person that supported Rona Romney, Turtle"

To me this is a valid argument. Although being a lower case moron I'm waiting to see how McCarthy handles the debt ceiling thingy. The jury is out on that one.

Posted by: Bosk at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (VMFAF)

223 Yeah. All of those ugly things I said about Joe during the primaries? I was just joshing.
Posted by: Kamala at May 24, 2023 06:34 PM (06vRX)

Again: why we arrive here.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (glGDV)

224 No one under 40 even knows who David Duke is.

Right, but you gotta figure anyone who writes for or buys a magazine these days is pushing 70. I guess it resonates with the Metamucil set

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (0hOvj)

225 weird how Polls have this magical property of being dead-on accurate when the trumpers like them, and "made for strippers' when the trumpers don't

can we get a consistent line on whether polls are accurate, or nah?

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (KRtlO)

226 198 everything with Team Trump is fucking threats, and I'm getting sick of it.

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:32 PM (KRtlO)

Hello, have you not seen team DeSantis sending people into Baris' twitter feeds attacking him for his past arrest (caused by his drug addiction)? That is really fucking low and shows that the people behind that campaign are low lives.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (gzz0o)

227 Desantis could have been Roronoa Zoro to Trump's Monkey D. Luffy.

Instead he is Squard to Trump's Whitebeard.

IYKYK.

Posted by: UwU_Power at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (3kWw+)

228 Meatball is lacking in 2 categories, name ID and charisma

other than that, he's scrumptious
Posted by: REDACTED

Some of us aren't looking for a dick to suck. But you do you.

Posted by: weft cut looop at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (jzzG8)

229 Fish heads
Fish heads

Rolley polley fish heads

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (UMF0j)

230 Only reason I wanted Trump to be unopposed ( by a competent rival) in the primary is because I know the majority Trump avid fans will stay home if he’s not the nominee giving the GOPs slim chance to no chance to win.

Yes. Being threatened with extortion by my supposed compatriots is certainly a compelling argument.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (nfrXX)

231 careful

this thread could devolve into a Ron v Don slapfight
Posted by: DB - at May 24, 2023 06:11 PM (geLO
.......

Will Kari Lake be involved? Cuz then I'm in.

Posted by: wth at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (v0R5T)

232 Is David Duke still alive?

Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2023 06:37 PM (NpAcC)

233 "Twitter was expensive, but free speech is priceless."

-Elon

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:37 PM (eOEVl)

234 The Washington Post's "journalist" Paul Fahri basically makes the Conservative Case for Ron DeSantis. He means it to be disqualifying, of course.

Does this count as an in-kind contribution to the DeSantis campaign?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 24, 2023 06:37 PM (aD39U)

235 In your heart of Hearts, do you really believe DeSantis is going to beat Trump?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2023 06:31 PM (up/3i)

In my heart of Hearts, I don't believe Trump is going to beat Biden (at least not in the only sense that matters).

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:37 PM (tp+tP)

236 215 oh by the way, Richard Barris made a ton of bad projections in 2022. I listened to him THEN. Why would I listen to him now?

Posted by: ace

He totally blew the AZ race.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Worrying About Due Process Later at May 24, 2023 06:37 PM (to8pj)

237 Their loyalty better damn well be to me.
Posted by: Bosk at May 24, 2023 06:09 PM (VMFAF)

I'd settle for loyalty to the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and the idea of Christian morals.

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2023 06:37 PM (xlzFg)

238 In your heart of Hearts, do you really believe DeSantis is going to beat Trump?

In my brain I know it doesn't matter.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 06:37 PM (0hOvj)

239 I may owe a meme royalty for:

If you don't want to elect Trump...

This is how you elect Trump.

or not

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 24, 2023 06:37 PM (glGDV)

240 213 Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 06:21 PM (us2H3)

Would you vote for him in the general?
Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 06:35 PM (MNhXM)

and make the NTers happy, no fucking way

I can be just as childish as they are and probably moreso

the NTers need to learn a lesson on two streets

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 06:37 PM (us2H3)

241
This is State of the Art Communication!

For 1930.

I hope they won't cancel Fibber McGee and Molly for this.

This is not a great national introduction for DeSantis.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2023 06:38 PM (RJQ8g)

242 Trump posted like a 12 year old girl old day. It was a bunch of pejoratives interspersed with obfuscation. Yeah, the guy with the largest per capita of seniors sold you out on Social Security and Medicare!!

*makes jerking motion*

If that's Trump's strategy, it's going to be a long primary.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2023 06:38 PM (L9/32)

243 GWB

Worded better than I but yes you are correct.

Posted by: Bosk at May 24, 2023 06:38 PM (VMFAF)

244 Trump needs an adversary in the primaries so Media can't totally ignore his rallies.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 24, 2023 06:38 PM (RqMSv)

245 Good Lord, we have Satan-worshipping, America-hating, child-molesting Communists taking over America, and people on here are happily chatting about tanking the election so the fucking Left can remain in power? Are you effing crazy?

I was a virulent NeverTrumper. Swore I would sit out the election before I'd vote for him. And then, the thought of Bill and Hillary in the White House washed over me once again...

Thought Trump would be a New York Liberal. He gave us a great economy. He had China on the run. He gave us the unprecedented Abraham Accords. He didn't start any new wars. Oh, and he didn't need or want the Establishment's money or endorsements.

Was he really that awful?

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 06:38 PM (VDbGO)

246 DeSantis is doing very well on answering these questions. He doesn't have an inspiring voice, but his answers are a breath of fresh air. He can make complete sentences and follow a thought to a conclusion.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:38 PM (eOEVl)

247 Baris said Kemp was in trouble vs Abrams and Walker was cruising to victory.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 24, 2023 06:38 PM (xPl2J)

248 225 weird how Polls have this magical property of being dead-on accurate when the trumpers like them, and "made for strippers' when the trumpers don't

can we get a consistent line on whether polls are accurate, or nah?

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (KRtlO)

Baris had Biden winning by 4-point in 2020 which is exactly how it came out. He had Biden barely edging out Trump in the rust belt states, which is what happened. But today he is seeing Trump up over Biden by 7-points in the Rust belt. While DeSantis is trailing against Biden.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 24, 2023 06:39 PM (gzz0o)

249 "-Makes child rapists eligible for the death penalty."

I like this guy more and more every day.

Posted by: Montec at May 24, 2023 06:39 PM (OalnH)

250 Not an auspicious start. Leaving out the millions of non-twitter
users doesn't help either

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2023 06:39 PM (oot1N)

251 Is David Duke still alive?
Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2023 06:37 PM (NpAcC)
......

Yeah I goggled it, he's 72

Posted by: wth at May 24, 2023 06:39 PM (v0R5T)

252 Yeah the Desantis people online have always been annoying prudes but when they started going after Baris' past like the fucking hypocritical WASPs they are because they didn't like his polling, that lost me completely.

Posted by: UwU_Power at May 24, 2023 06:39 PM (3kWw+)

253 Interesting. For some time the Ronulans have been peddling the notion that either DeSantis won't get the same treatment from the Joseph Goebbels media that Trump did, or that somehow miraculously it won't have the same effect.

Good luck with that.

Posted by: Mhandisi at May 24, 2023 06:39 PM (IXANy)

254 Rolley polley fish heads

*eats them up* "yum"
--a cat

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 06:39 PM (0hOvj)

255 The hardcore OnlyTrumpers seem to be saying their delay the end of the country until 2028. Because there is literally nobody else able or worthy of being President besides Trump. And even the OnlyTrumpers would admit he won't be running in 2028. Or have they not thought that far ahead? I agree that a sizeable portion of the Trump base will be happy to let the fascist Democrats take the country over for good if Trump isn't the nominee. But that's not a point that shows a lot of confidence in the candidate, it's just a straight up threat.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 24, 2023 06:39 PM (Gu48G)

256 I find these T v. D threads fascinating.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 24, 2023 06:39 PM (Xrfse)

257 When you have Marjory 'I'm going to impeach everyone' Greene against you, you're screwed.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Worrying About Due Process Later at May 24, 2023 06:39 PM (to8pj)

258 Only reason I wanted Trump to be unopposed ( by a competent rival) in the primary is because I know the majority Trump avid fans will stay home if he’s not the nominee giving the GOPs slim chance to no chance to win.

Yes. Being threatened with extortion by my supposed compatriots is certainly a compelling argument.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (nfrXX)

It’s not meant to be compelling. It’s just a pragmatic fact.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 06:39 PM (MNhXM)

259 There is way too much 'me me me' in Trump.

I would vote for him but if you want a reasoned discussion you go to DeSantis, Ramaswamy.

Posted by: JEM at May 24, 2023 06:39 PM (8erNz)

260
In my heart of Hearts, I don't believe Trump is going to beat Biden (at least not in the only sense that matters).

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:37 PM

At this point in time everyone should know that Trump isn't running against Biden, but President Harris.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 24, 2023 06:39 PM (enJYY)

261 They won't be pretending this time that it's about Muh Tweets or Muh Virtue and Character;

---------

But, muh MEATBALLZZZZ!

Posted by: ShainS at May 24, 2023 06:39 PM (0wy0o)

262 >>>Trey Gowdy is doing Tucker's old time slot this week and evidently gets the first television interview with DeSantis tonight.

Posted by: redridinghood

>Trey Gowdy was the kind of American Badass I always hoped alas, Ted Cruz would be. We are blessed to have these fighters doing the Lord's work!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 24, 2023 06:39 PM (fY84s)

263 155 @142 "Lol.
No one under 40 even knows who David Duke is.
At least go with the only historical figure people under 40 know. --Bitter Clinger."

Don't tell them. They're still trotting out "But Timothy McVeigh!"

Posted by: Zek at May 24, 2023 06:26 PM (5FPX4)

Most people under 30 have never heard any band or singer we 29-year olds here could name. Supposedly. On youtube there are thousands of videos of youngsters, mostly black for some reason, listening to a song by a 60s or 70s group or solo singer for the first time. They all claim to LOVE what they heard, can't believe how terrific it is!

I think most of this is BS click bait, but who knows?

Search on youtube for "first time hearing (fill in a group or singer)" if you're interested.

Posted by: Gref at May 24, 2023 06:40 PM (AMIL/)

264 228 Meatball is lacking in 2 categories, name ID and charisma

I thought that was three things then I saw there was no additional comma.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at May 24, 2023 06:40 PM (glGDV)

265 Some of us aren't looking for a dick to suck. But you do you.
Posted by: weft cut looop at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (jzzG

good to know your gloryhole card is all filled

grats

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 06:40 PM (us2H3)

266 *Will Kari Lake be involved? Cuz then I'm in.*

Only if there's a chain mail bikini.

Posted by: Pay Per View at May 24, 2023 06:40 PM (DhOHl)

267 am I supposed to care about any of this? srsly?

LOL!

the "election" is late next year, at least in theory.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 24, 2023 06:40 PM (v0mat)

268 I know it isn't great for him, but why is Twitter Spaces not working his fault?
Posted by: DJ at May 24, 2023 06:36 PM (H5y4s)

I wish they hadn't had the technical difficulties up front and it has reduced the audience size, but it's been working just fine for me since the restart.

I do think a video feed, with a crowd of supporters on hand, might have had a greater impact, but that's debatable.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:40 PM (tp+tP)

269 "No one under 40 even knows who David Duke is."

Uncle Jesse: He's the one what couldn't drive a stick or hold his likker. Became an interior decorator if I recall.

*sits back*

*sips from jug with "xxx" on it*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 24, 2023 06:40 PM (T/Lqj)

270 DeSantis does have better hair than Trump and Newsom.
Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2023 06:40 PM (NpAcC)

271 Thought Trump would be a New York Liberal. He gave us a great economy. He had China on the run. He gave us the unprecedented Abraham Accords. He didn't start any new wars. Oh, and he didn't need or want the Establishment's money or endorsements.

Was he really that awful?

He wasn't. I would vote for him if he's the candidate. I think DeSantis will be a much better candidate.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:40 PM (eOEVl)

272 I really liked the idea of DeSantis announcing on Twitter as a slap to major media, but for heaven's sake---the thing's got to WORK. This is a disaster so far.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 24, 2023 06:40 PM (sWM8x)

273 when they started going after Baris' past

Chuck Barris ran for office? In addition to being a CIA hit man? He's like a Renaissance man

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 06:40 PM (0hOvj)

274 "I find these T v. D threads fascinating."

I concur.

Posted by: Spock at May 24, 2023 06:41 PM (VMFAF)

275 Archimedes: "'We understand that government is not entertainment. It's not about building a brand.'

Ouch."

Credit to DeSantis. That is actually a very good platform position. It's not just a jab at Trump though it expressly is. Government is no longer perceived as serious business as much as it is simply political positioning for pet projects. The clowns we see everyday aren't taken seriously because of thoughtful due diligence and concern; they're not taken seriously because they robotically champion a brand.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 24, 2023 06:41 PM (aXxgO)

276 Yeah the Desantis people online have always been annoying prudes but when they started going after Baris' past like the fucking hypocritical WASPs they are because they didn't like his polling, that lost me completely.
Posted by: UwU_Power at May 24, 2023 06:39 PM (3kWw+

You don’t see the cognitive dissonance in you criticism?

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 06:41 PM (MNhXM)

277 I completely understand the loyalty thing with Trump. Look, the guy has put his personal fortune (lost mucho money becoming prez) and freedom and maybe even his life on the line (don’t tell me the deep state wouldn’t try to take him out as a last resort). In my book, that kind of loyalty to we the people of the nation) does demand some reciprocity. Now RDS comes along (who I like as guv of FL tremendously) and he only got elected in 2018 because Trump supported him… and now he seems to be saying forget all that I can do it better. He can’t self-fund like DJT so he will be beholden to big donors and easier to roll because he can’t afford the lawyers Trump can to wage lawfare…. The whole thing turns my stomach. He should not have run…. No one wins.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2023 06:41 PM (xT8gx)

278 @235

>>In my heart of Hearts, I don't believe Trump is going to beat Biden (at least not in the only sense that matters).

That's a separate issue, any debate stage that Trump is on is going to be about Trump, every candidate is going to either be asked to attack a Trump policy or defend themselves for why they support a Trump policy.

It's essentially going to be a replay of 2016 except Trump has an actual record of accomplishments.

What the f**k us Nikki Haley going to say, I disagreed with Trumps foreign policy but since I'm a bloodless soulless political animal I executed those policies anyways?

It's all ludicrous.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2023 06:41 PM (up/3i)

279 most young people think David Duke is a 50s rock star.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 24, 2023 06:20 PM (x99cN)

Totally wrong. He's that big movie star guy who always was a cowboy. And a racist Jenghis Khan.

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2023 06:41 PM (xlzFg)

280 How many people have said:

Ron, if you can’t beat Donald Duck
How are you going to beat Donald Trump?

Posted by: VizzinisGuess at May 24, 2023 06:41 PM (h8s0C)

281 Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
I tend (perhaps foolishly) to discount the Alpha/Beta Male stuff.

Hits a little too close to home, eh, Billy Boy?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2023 06:42 PM (Wnv9h)

282 But, muh MEATBALLZZZZ!
Posted by: ShainS at May 24, 2023 06:39 PM (0wy0o)
........

DeSantis v Biden

Meatballs v Old man Balls

Posted by: wth at May 24, 2023 06:42 PM (v0R5T)

283 Trump has wide name recognition, probably the best of any candidate. But it's always that way in the primary. Whoever has the best name recognition gets the early lead. As other candidates announce and get out there, the gaps close.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2023 06:42 PM (L9/32)

284 Most people under 30 have never heard any band or singer we 29-year olds here could name. Supposedly. On youtube there are thousands of videos of youngsters, mostly black for some reason, listening to a song by a 60s or 70s group or solo singer for the first time. They all claim to LOVE what they heard, can't believe how terrific it is!

I think most of this is BS click bait, but who knows?

___

It's not most of it. It's ALL of it.

Posted by: Montec at May 24, 2023 06:43 PM (OalnH)

285 The ding on DeSantis by Trump about the "national 23% sales tax" is disingenuous (go figure, its politics).

What I'm sure he's referring to is the Fair Tax which would replace the income and I believe, corporate tax with a national sales tax - which would be amazing.

I'd bet that Trump endorsed the Fair Tax at some point as well.

Posted by: Defenestratus at May 24, 2023 06:43 PM (vfSrb)

286 Dr. Mallard could wheel Slow Joe out on an autopsy gurney and he would still win.

Politics is shite.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 24, 2023 06:43 PM (T/Lqj)

287 I like Governor Meatball.

He will make an excellent vice president.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 24, 2023 06:43 PM (R/m4+)

288 For some time the Ronulans have been peddling the notion that either DeSantis won't get the same treatment from the Joseph Goebbels media that Trump did

Amusing. You guys are the only ones who ever make this argument, yet you constantly accuse everyone else of propagating. Get some new material.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:43 PM (eOEVl)

289 I added a YouTube simulcast.

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:43 PM (KRtlO)

290 I think it's cute that Ace believes DeSantis is going to be the one to finally beat Trump at this politics game. The guy and his team just let Trump kick the snot out of him for SIX MONTHS and build a massive lead in the polls.

Why? Why not declare three months ago? Four? Why not in the wake of the 2022 midterms when Trump was the weakest he'd been since coming down that golden escalator?

Posted by: MBunge at May 24, 2023 06:43 PM (2tWdQ)

291 I'm getting to "sitting out for Trump."

So don't play that game. We can tank an election as well as you guys can.

Posted by: ace at May 24, 2023 06:31 PM (KRtlO)

Do you not GET IT? These aren't party regulars... or EVEN CONSERVATIVES. Trump got millions of Obama voters to vote for a Republican for the first time in their lives because they saw him as his own man, and not a typical republican. Don't call people traitors or spoilsports who don't even care about the Republican Party and choose not to vote for what they see as the lesser of two evils.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 24, 2023 06:44 PM (gzz0o)

292 Was he really that awful? ——

He put Fauci in a position to run the country and kept him there. For me that cancels any good he did because that literally canceled all the good he did.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 06:44 PM (MNhXM)

293 Argle-bargle!!

I told myself I was not going to be dragged into this.

Hello, bourbon...

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 24, 2023 06:44 PM (T/Lqj)

294 I'm going to have a few shots

kant do this sober

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 06:44 PM (us2H3)

295 270 DeSantis does have better hair than Trump and Newsom.
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2023 06:40 PM (NpAcC)

——-

Are you really going to diss the Golden Scalp Weasel?

I guess you could say DeSantis has Honey Badger Hair

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 24, 2023 06:44 PM (VpRzs)

296 You don’t see the cognitive dissonance in you criticism?
Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 06:41 PM (MNhXM)

No, I know I'm a dick. Trump is a dick. You get what you get. I just want to have what I had in 2018 and 2019 again.

Posted by: UwU_Power at May 24, 2023 06:44 PM (3kWw+)

297 If Trump's path to the nomination were truly as unassailable as he and the most rabid core of OnlyTrumpers say, Trump and his surrogates and the OnlyTrumpers wouldn't be attacking him so much every day. They have nothing to say about Nikki Haley or Asa Hutchinson or any of the others. For good reason. But they know DeSantis can beat Trump. Their actions demonstrate that.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 24, 2023 06:45 PM (Gu48G)

298 ...and 2% of 16% of the primary electorate is not enough to tank the general election.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 24, 2023 06:45 PM (gzz0o)

299 Apropos of nothing, does Jesse Jackson have alzheimers or something? I mean, he's still alive, AFAIK, but sure is invisible in all this race baiting. This should be when he makes his vigorish.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 24, 2023 06:45 PM (aD39U)

300 PUDDIN' FINGERS IS IN!

Posted by: p-squared at May 24, 2023 06:45 PM (UxSB9)

301 Although personality transplants are not medically available, the heart-stopping Trump vaccine is. Maybe you should suggest DeSantis gets one of those, you stripper humping loser.

Posted by: Wally at May 24, 2023 06:45 PM (BkmP+)

302 It's like a cage match, where the winner gets...nothing.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 24, 2023 06:45 PM (Xrfse)

303 most young people think David Duke is a 50s rock star.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 24, 2023 06:20 PM (x99cN)

Totally wrong. He's that big movie star guy who always was a cowboy. And a racist Jenghis Khan.
Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2023 06:41 PM (xlzFg)
.......

I thought David Dukes were those sexy denim short shorts.

Posted by: wth at May 24, 2023 06:45 PM (v0R5T)

304 I'm starting to think that the technical difficulties in the beginning will actually be beneficial for D. It highlights that DeSantis is doing things differently, and isn't a generic GOPe candidate.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:46 PM (eOEVl)

305 Yale University and Harvard Law School
Special Assistant U.S. attorney
Yeah, those two concern me actually.

Ron's built his resume like he was planning to be POTUS since high school.

Not necesarilly bad, but can look like Mayor Pete without the butt stuff.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 24, 2023 06:46 PM (RqMSv)

306 *sits back*

*sips from jug with "xxx" on it*
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 24, 2023 06:40 PM

*nudges Pug*

Pass the jug.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2023 06:46 PM (Wnv9h)

307 "enchilada"~!

Posted by: weft cut looop at May 24, 2023 06:46 PM (jzzG8)

308 Hamburger Mary's, huh?

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2023 06:46 PM (Uv0D2)

309 How many people have said:

Ron, if you can’t beat Donald Duck
How are you going to beat Donald Trump?
Posted by: VizzinisGuess at May 24, 2023 06:41 PM (h8s0C)

Seeing as how he *did* beat Donald Duck, I'm going to go with "no one."

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:46 PM (tp+tP)

310 Reverse psychology does not usually work on me. Just because Democrats are against him, it doesn't mean now I have to be for him.
Possibly the notabilities of the Republican Party are now advising DeSantis that to succeed on the national stage he has to stay neutral, smile more, and not say anything controversial (i.e. that could make a Democrat uncomfortable) --- and they'll do the rest.
Perhaps Trump was too populist and said stupid stuff (I don't believe it). However, "Make America Great Again" and "Build the Wall" resonated with me.
I would like to see DeSantis make a "controversial" (in the above sense) policy proposal and strongly uphold it, shouting from the rooftops if needed. I would like this even (especially) if the policy can be expressed in 3-4 words. No, I wouldn't like the proposal to be "stop supporting Ukraine". But, in any case, if he doesn't do it now (i.e. over the next 3 months) then I am less confident he will do it later (when hopefully he is president).
Maybe DeSantis and his people gave clear signs and/or private briefings to important people reassuring them that he is the real deal. However, I was not included and would like to see more.

Posted by: PG at May 24, 2023 06:47 PM (UF1oG)

311 @302

>>It's like a cage match, where the winner gets...nothing.

It's even worse than that, they may get to be President of The United States as a Republican.

Mike Rowe should do a dirty jobs on that.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2023 06:47 PM (up/3i)

312
I like Governor Meatball.

He will make an excellent vice president.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 24, 2023 06:43 PM

Yup. Four years of seasoning while he embraces the issues around the entire planet and not just Disneyworld.

I like the Ron, but I know how he has been successful and that most certainly will not 'scale' to DC.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 24, 2023 06:47 PM (enJYY)

313 thought David Dukes were those sexy denim short shorts.
Posted by: wth at May 24, 2023 06:45 PM

Only in San Fran.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2023 06:47 PM (Wnv9h)

314 "Amusing. You guys are the only ones who ever make this argument, yet you constantly accuse everyone else of propagating. Get some new material."

Nice try, Pinocchio.

Posted by: Mhandisi at May 24, 2023 06:47 PM (IXANy)

315 I'm not in the T vs. D fight, but I'm just saying that if Obama can say there are 57 states and the current parsnip in the oval office can't tie his own shoes, and those are just a "slip of the tongue" and a stutter or whatever nonsense they spew, I think we should be able to overlook a technical issue.

Posted by: DJ at May 24, 2023 06:48 PM (H5y4s)

316 I've no problem with either one. Let the primary process work. And in the General, we already know the fraud and corruption will be there, so let it be so obvious that a million people take to the streets.
Two million.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2023 06:48 PM (YGqO/)

317 "Possibly the notabilities of the Republican Party are now advising DeSantis that to succeed on the national stage he has to stay neutral, smile more, and not say anything controversial"

I ain't voting for Romney 2.0

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2023 06:48 PM (iayUP)

318 289 I added a YouTube simulcast

Thanks, but the audio is very weak.

Posted by: Listen closely at May 24, 2023 06:48 PM (DhOHl)

319 *nudges Pug*

Pass the jug.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2023 06:46 PM (Wnv9h)

*rubs jug lip with sleeve*

Get'cher pull

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 24, 2023 06:48 PM (T/Lqj)

320 "I'm starting to think that the technical difficulties in the beginning will actually be beneficial for D. It highlights that DeSantis is doing things differently, and isn't a generic GOPe candidate."

You are really bad at this, aren't you?

Posted by: Mhandisi at May 24, 2023 06:48 PM (IXANy)

321 I'll vote for whoever promises to nuke DC

Posted by: wth at May 24, 2023 06:48 PM (v0R5T)

322 Do you not GET IT? These aren't party regulars... or EVEN CONSERVATIVES. Trump got millions of Obama voters to vote for a Republican for the first time in their lives because they saw him as his own man, and not a typical republican. Don't call people traitors or spoilsports who don't even care about the Republican Party and choose not to vote for what they see as the lesser of two evils.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 24, 2023 06:44 PM (gzz0o)

So what happens in 2028? Is this what we're debating, whether the country dies in 2024 or 2028? Seems kind of pointless to get worked up over.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 24, 2023 06:48 PM (Gu48G)

323 I do have a feeling the FBI is going to have some kind of insurance policy to make sure Trump never sets foot back in the WH.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2023 06:49 PM (NpAcC)

324 They fear DeSantis because he has discipline. He took a marginally red state, with a GOPe legislature and actually flipped it red MAGA. Yes, his covid policies increased sympathetic voters to his state - but he made the structural changes before any of that really hit.

His comm team is substantially superior to Trump's, and the neo-cons/NT groups realize he is a bigger threat to wiping out the contacts in leadership they currently have, responding much more effectively to media meddling, and understanding how government works. His leadership in Florida has fostered a number of red states following suit on ESG, covid, trans, and any other number of things. At the federal level, he would wipe out any push back from the feds as that spreads. He can let the blue states continue to fuck themselves.

Of course - he can't win the general. Because it's who counts the votes - not who votes.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 24, 2023 06:49 PM (UVyKP)

325 DeSantis;
1- Doesn't shit his pants
2- can climb a flight of stairs without falling
3- Speaks coherently, in complete sentences
4- Didn't associate with KKK members
5- Knows where he is most days
6- Doesn't shake hands with the air

By golly, I think we have a winner.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2023 06:49 PM (L9/32)

326 313, lol

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 24, 2023 06:49 PM (v0mat)

327 93- So they could break down all the walls, remove all the morality, deaden all the conscience, and then everyone could participate in their hedonistic utopia. This has always been the goal of the progressives - to enable pleasure without consequence, no matter you think "pleasure" is. They think this is glorious. Anyone with a remnant of a conscience thinks otherwise.
Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2023 06:19 PM

Perfectly describes Jenny at the end of Forrest Gump. She had chased hedonism to the bitter and catastrophic end. The only true pleasure in her life was her son; her traditional role as a mother is what brought her the most joy.

Posted by: Moonbeam at May 24, 2023 06:49 PM (rbKZ6)

328 Meanwhile, I wonder what Ben Shapiro's sister is doing?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2023 06:49 PM (YGqO/)

329 Going to try to just sit this one out this cycle. I like both Trump and Desantis for different reasons. I don't really care which of them get the nomination. I think they would have had a chance of beating the fraud on the same ticket. I don't think either of them can get to 270, because there is no way to win the needed states out of a combination from PA, GA, VA, WI, NV, and AZ.

Democrats have a lock with their absentee ballot machine and GOP pretends that elections are about electable candidates. So Biden is going to win by however many votes are needed.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 24, 2023 06:49 PM (5p7BC)

330 Why? Why not declare three months ago? Four? Why not in the wake of the 2022 midterms when Trump was the weakest he'd been since coming down that golden escalator?
Posted by: MBunge at May 24, 2023 06:43 PM (2tWdQ)

Are you serious? If he had done that (even if the law requiring him to resign as FL Gov hadn't been repealed yet, which it hadn't), you all would have been denouncing him about how he's an amoral, opportunistic backstabber who needs to be destroyed and anybody who supports him is a traitor.

Wait, you've kinda been doing that anyway. So maybe you have a point.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:50 PM (tp+tP)

331 Possibly the notabilities of the Republican Party are now advising DeSantis that to succeed on the national stage he has to stay neutral, smile more, and not say anything controversial"

I ain't voting for Romney 2.0

You clearly haven't been listening to what D has been saying. See my #190.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:50 PM (eOEVl)

332
Jesse Jackson, November 2017 -- On Friday, the 76-year-old released a statement revealing that he’s been diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 24, 2023 06:50 PM (pNxlR)

333 Does Pence even know what Twitter is?

Posted by: Maj. Healey Worrying About Due Process Later at May 24, 2023 06:50 PM (to8pj)

334 *rubs jug lip with sleeve*

Get'cher pull
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 24, 2023 06:48 PM

Thank you kindly.

*takes pull*

*wipes jug*

*passes jug back to Pug*

Needed that.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2023 06:50 PM (Wnv9h)

335 To win you need tin invest $100 of millions of dollars into ballot harvesting operations. Which the Dems are way ahead. Spending half a Billion dollars in the primary attacking each other is a waste of precious resources that could be building those ballot harvesting ops in swing states.

So, like Democrats, we're just done with primaries. In the name of efficiency. "Trump 2024: The Trains Shall Run On Time!" It probably sounded better in the original Italian.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at May 24, 2023 06:50 PM (ppBhU)

336 RDS has to prove himself to me. There's plenty of time.

Posted by: fd at May 24, 2023 06:50 PM (iayUP)

337 325 DeSantis;
1- Doesn't shit his pants
2- can climb a flight of stairs without falling
3- Speaks coherently, in complete sentences
4- Didn't associate with KKK members
5- Knows where he is most days
6- Doesn't shake hands with the air

By golly, I think we have a winner.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2023 06:49 PM (L9/32)
>>>
Hell, I can do most of those things.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 24, 2023 06:51 PM (T/Lqj)

338 Apropos of nothing, does Jesse Jackson have alzheimers or something? I mean, he's still alive, AFAIK, but sure is invisible in all this race baiting. This should be when he makes his vigorish.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 24, 2023 06:45 PM (aD39U)

I think he’s got that shaking disease. Starts with a P.

Prolly has the slims too.

Fuck him.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 24, 2023 06:51 PM (R/m4+)

339 MBunge: "Why? Why not declare three months ago? Four? Why not in the wake of the 2022 midterms when Trump was the weakest he'd been since coming down that golden escalator?"

Part of the reason had to to with FL law. I don't think DeSantis could run for another office while governor. The legislature changed law just recently so DeSantis could a) continue his conservative mission in FL (officially and with authority) while b) running for president.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 24, 2023 06:51 PM (aXxgO)

340 Be sure and note how much airtime this announcement gets on national and cable news.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2023 06:51 PM (oot1N)

341 ale University and Harvard Law School
Special Assistant U.S. attorney
Yeah, those two concern me actually.

Ron's built his resume like he was planning to be POTUS since high school.

Not necesarilly bad, but can look like Mayor Pete without the butt stuff.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 24, 2023 06:46 PM (RqMSv

He joined the Navy in 2004 and attached to SEAL team 1 as legal counsel eventually serving in Iraq. I guess he could be another Al Gore or John Kerry but I’m not seeing it.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 06:51 PM (MNhXM)

342 Jesse Jackson, November 2017 -- On Friday, the 76-year-old released a statement revealing that he’s been diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 24, 2023 06:50 PM (pNxlR)

Ah. So we will miss his rhyming couplets this burning season. Pity that.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 24, 2023 06:51 PM (aD39U)

343 If Trump's path to the nomination were truly as unassailable as he and the most rabid core of OnlyTrumpers say, Trump and his surrogates and the OnlyTrumpers wouldn't be attacking him so much every day. They have nothing to say about CHRIS CHRISTIE or MIKE HUCKABEE or any of the others. For good reason. But they know TED CRUZ can beat Trump. Their actions demonstrate that.

Posted by: Fightwinger at May 24, 2023 06:51 PM (fAXb0)

344 Desantis could have been Roronoa Zoro to Trump's Monkey D. Luffy.

Instead he is Squard to Trump's Whitebeard.

NERDS!!!!

Posted by: Ogre at May 24, 2023 06:51 PM (lc5cP)

345 Clearly in their effort to out-snark the other media, VF stepped on their crank with this really stupid headline.
Hey VF readers, this is how stupid VF thinks you are.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2023 06:52 PM (YGqO/)

346 Is everyone in the Republican Party too fucking gutless to call out the unprecedented, utterly lawless legal persecution of Trump in multiple jurisdictions? Y'all okay with seeing this Kafkaesque shit done, so long as it isn't your candidate? Why can't anyone in this party ever stand up?

We had one guy stand up for us. He stood up to our corrupt press. He stood up to our corrupt Congress. He stood up to our useless "allies" in NATO. He called it like it was. And he never took a paycheck.

I have never seen another person leave Washington with far less money than when they arrived.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 06:52 PM (VDbGO)

347 329 - Your statement, Dave, is the most accurate and relevant I’ve read

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2023 06:52 PM (xT8gx)

348 Ron's built his resume like he was planning to be POTUS since high school.

Not necesarilly bad, but can look like Mayor Pete without the butt stuff.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 24, 2023 06:46 PM (RqMSv)

——-/

He’s a lifetime government employee.

He’s spent more time getting a government paycheck than Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 24, 2023 06:52 PM (VpRzs)

349 "The status quo is not acceptable."

Yup. He's GOPe.

"Congress hasn't used the power of the purse.... Then you can remove the funding."

GOPe stooge.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:52 PM (eOEVl)

350 "Hell, I can do most of those things.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 24, 2023 06:51 PM (T/Lqj)"

I think we found a VP

Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2023 06:52 PM (L9/32)

351 Vanity Fair ….takes its title from the place designated as the centre of human corruption in John Bunyan’s 17th-century allegory Pilgrim’s Progress.

Posted by: Tmitsss at May 24, 2023 06:52 PM (awV2G)

352 Don't want a president.
I want a general.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 24, 2023 06:52 PM (G5wD6)

353 Maj. Healey Worrying About Due Process Later: "Does Pence even know what Twitter is?"

He doesn't even understand what time it is.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 24, 2023 06:52 PM (aXxgO)

354 More seriously, this is going to be a sh*t-show and no matter who you like, we gotta beat whatever current or future Frankenstein the Dems throw out there.

Posted by: Fightwinger at May 24, 2023 06:53 PM (fAXb0)

355 Vote Fraud is going to get worse because no one has been able to fight it in State courts, Federal Courts and State house representatives

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2023 06:53 PM (xhxe8)

356 Posted by: Serious Cat at May 24, 2023 06:44 PM (gzz0o)

So what happens in 2028? Is this what we're debating, whether the country dies in 2024 or 2028? Seems kind of pointless to get worked up over.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 24, 2023 06:48 PM (Gu48G)

You hopefully find candidates and party leaders that remind people of Trump and his America First agenda, But promoting pro-war and free traders like DeSantis isn't going to cut it.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 24, 2023 06:53 PM (gzz0o)

357 Trump got millions of Obama voters to vote for a Republican for the first time in their lives

__

That's a bit of a stretch. He maybe got a few hundred thousand. Which was substantial and enough to win MI, WI and PA. But it wasn't millions.

Posted by: Montec at May 24, 2023 06:53 PM (OalnH)

358 Coming in late to this thread. Do we need to wear hard hats?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2023 06:53 PM (Keyt1)

359 New gender identified!

Men's Health says men might be "gynosexual" if they are attracted to women. Or, you know, just normal men.

-
Men attracted to women? Geez, what a bunch of sickos!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 24, 2023 06:53 PM (FVME7)

360 343 If Trump's path to the nomination were truly as unassailable as he and the most rabid core of OnlyTrumpers say, Trump and his surrogates and the OnlyTrumpers wouldn't be attacking him so much every day. They have nothing to say about CHRIS CHRISTIE or MIKE HUCKABEE or any of the others. For good reason. But they know TED CRUZ can beat Trump. Their actions demonstrate that.

Posted by: Fightwinger at May 24, 2023 06:51 PM (fAXb0)

Um. OK yes, that's also accurate. Did you have a point you were trying to make?

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 24, 2023 06:53 PM (Gu48G)

361 Would you sign the Reins Act?

"Yes.

Chevron deference curtailed or eliminated"

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:53 PM (eOEVl)

362 Well no surprise, but he's got my vote (for now).

I just see him as the perfect combo of electability and ideology. Also a very impressive resume. Shows courage, if anything he's almost too ballsy. I would dial it down to fool the suburbanites.

But I'm just amazed there's still conservatives want to run Trump again when we have an alternative like DeSantis. I've yet to meet a real life Trump supporter that actually thinks Trump is going to sit in the Oval Office again. If we are stupid enough to run Trump again, it's not going to be close like it was in 2020. He'll get smoked and take the whole ticket down with him.

Posted by: Blago at May 24, 2023 06:53 PM (cOFom)

363 Crap, I'm low on popcorn.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 24, 2023 06:54 PM (ZSK0i)

364 LMAO! Ace is still all in for a Ted Cruz do over.

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at May 24, 2023 06:54 PM (WiAW9)

365 His comm team is substantially superior to Trump's, and the neo-cons/NT groups realize he is a bigger threat to wiping out the contacts in leadership they currently have,

If Pushaw works for him you might see the best Republican media campaign since Reagan in 84.

One thing I really like about DeSantis - he comes with a group of allies and friends that love to fight the left and do it well.

Posted by: Ogre at May 24, 2023 06:54 PM (lc5cP)

366 346 - Yes x 1000, Sam

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2023 06:54 PM (xT8gx)

367 I like the Ron, but I know how he has been successful and that most certainly will not 'scale' to DC.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 24, 2023 06:47 PM (enJYY)
==
Because he can't win. He's an R. If allowed it most certainly scales at the DC level. Your inauguration speech says every political appointee needs to have their resignation on my desk tomorrow morning or your fired. He forces the House (it would most certainly be R if by some miracle he won) to do straight appropriations and cuts the meddlesome departments to the bone - very easy to do. He gets a real AG to arrest Wray/ Garland for something, and threatens Hillary and Obama for their role in RussiaGate. Thats a start

Posted by: Black JEM at May 24, 2023 06:54 PM (UVyKP)

368 Democrats have a lock with their absentee ballot machine and GOP pretends that elections are about electable candidates. So Biden is going to win by however many votes are needed.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 24, 2023 06:49 PM (5p7BC)

Then what's the point of any of this? If that's true of '24, it's true of '28, '32, etc etc. And I'm not saying you're wrong, but I have heard *no one* put forth a plan for how to beat the fraud. So if we're going that route, we might as well give up now.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:54 PM (tp+tP)

369
Democrats have a lock with their absentee ballot machine and GOP pretends that elections are about electable candidates. So Biden is going to win by however many votes are needed. Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 24, 2023 06:49 PM

What if the election is decided by about 70% of voters who do not want President Harris?

:: quickly scribbles an entire whiteboard of equations ::

Landslide Electoral (R).

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 24, 2023 06:54 PM (enJYY)

370 DeSantis;
1- Doesn't shit his pants
2- can climb a flight of stairs without falling
3- Speaks coherently, in complete sentences
4- Didn't associate with KKK members
5- Knows where he is most days
6- Doesn't shake hands with the air

By golly, I think we have a winner.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2023 06:49 PM (L9/32)
>>>
Hell, I can do most of those things.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 24, 2023 06:51 PM (T/Lqj)
***

So....VP?
Maybe SecDef?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2023 06:54 PM (YGqO/)

371 Coming in late to this thread. Do we need to wear hard hats?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2023 06:53 PM (Keyt1)
........

No, but you might want to gird your loins.

Posted by: wth at May 24, 2023 06:54 PM (v0R5T)

372 >>358 Coming in late to this thread. Do we need to wear hard hats?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Not yet but, prepare to put on body armor in a few minutes.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Worrying About Due Process Later at May 24, 2023 06:55 PM (to8pj)

373 Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 24, 2023 06:47 PM (enJYY)

Hah . Trump had zero government experience and it showed.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 06:55 PM (MNhXM)

374 Alors, il commence.

Posted by: Ce gars qui pense toujours que ca commence. at May 24, 2023 06:55 PM (2hlEI)

375 This thread will go into Trump v DeSantis at length, but I said it before, and I'll say it again.

Ultimately the only thing that matters is which of the two has a plan to defeat the fraud in the six stolen states that will work. And unfortunately...just the right level of OpSec so the left can't stop it.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2023 06:55 PM (lc5cP)

376 Coming in late to this thread. Do we need to wear hard hats?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2023 06:53 PM

*passes Fen a tasteful plate carrier*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2023 06:56 PM (Wnv9h)

377
You want General Washington
You will settle for General Pinochet
You will get Corporal Punishment

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 24, 2023 06:56 PM (aD39U)

378 I waiting for that fat, blubbering, sweat soaked tubby, ass kissing, donut quaffing, Springsteen fellating loser, Christie to get in the race. Then we can throw donuts at him when the rally comes to town. Born to Run, fat boy.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2023 06:56 PM (L9/32)

379

Funny tweet:

Jingleghost @JeremyMonjo . 20m
I can't believe the universe gave Trump another Jeb.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 24, 2023 06:56 PM (gzz0o)

380 You want General Washington
You will settle for General Pinochet
You will get Corporal Punishment

And all the tranny fluids you can swallow!

Posted by: Election 24 brought to you by Bud at May 24, 2023 06:56 PM (lc5cP)

381 Why is your fight with Disney important?

"I think some of the Republicans taking Disney's side are showing themselves to be corporatists".

Why, whomever could he mean?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:56 PM (eOEVl)

382 Alors, il commence.
Posted by: Ce gars qui pense toujours que ca commence. at May 24, 2023 06:55 PM

Guy...that's French....

Posted by: Gomez Addams at May 24, 2023 06:56 PM (Wnv9h)

383 Trump 2024 or nobody

Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 06:56 PM (MwHgU)

384 You want General Washington
You will settle for General Pinochet
You will get Corporal Punishment
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 24, 2023 06:56 PM (aD39U)
.......

What happened to Sergeant Duff and Private Whacker?

Posted by: wth at May 24, 2023 06:57 PM (v0R5T)

385 How long before done rando chick claims Ron touched her no no back in 1972 at a Wawa?

Posted by: NCKate at May 24, 2023 06:57 PM (d5Qya)

386 You want General Washington
You will settle for General Pinochet
You will get Corporal Punishment
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 24, 2023 06:56 PM (aD39U)
-----------
And/or Private Parts.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at May 24, 2023 06:57 PM (2hlEI)

387 Posted by: Maj. Healey Worrying About Due Process Later at May 24, 2023 06:55 PM (to8pj)

LOL. I'm kinda tired. What is that doggerel about Brave Sir Robin ran away?-only it's not so brave Fenelon exiting stage right.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2023 06:57 PM (Keyt1)

388 Baris had Biden winning by 4-point in 2020 which is exactly how it came out. He had Biden barely edging out Trump in the rust belt states, which is what happened. But today he is seeing Trump up over Biden by 7-points in the Rust belt. While DeSantis is trailing against Biden.

So you think the outcome of the election was completely legit?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 24, 2023 06:57 PM (gHSfI)

389
DeSantis sounds good but the only people paying attention are political junkies.

This will not have a life beyond tonight, whereas if this was a video conference basically you have little commercials which could be sliced out of tonight's interview and run on the internet or TV.

Maybe people will stick around cuz after the upcoming Geritol and Ovaltine commercials, the Fred Allen Show starts.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2023 06:57 PM (RJQ8g)

390 Trump 2024 or nobody
Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 06:56 PM (MwHgU)

There it is

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 06:57 PM (MNhXM)

391 What I want from DeSantis tomorrow' is his economic plan.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2023 06:57 PM (oot1N)

392
What happened to [...] Private Whacker?

Hey how did you figure out my secret twitter handle?

Posted by: Pete Bootyjizz at May 24, 2023 06:57 PM (lc5cP)

393 Perfectly encapsulating how the fake conservatives of the past 20-30 years were always actually Democrats. There's zero daylight between this tweet vs. from the most ridiculous partisans from the Left.

I don't know why we are exposed to the thoughts of these trans-conservatives.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 24, 2023 06:57 PM (YXHzG)

394 I was Governor of Florida once.

I’m smart, not dumb like people say. I’m smart and I want respect.

I was passed over!

Please clap.

Posted by: Jeb! Inbred and Loving It! at May 24, 2023 06:57 PM (R/m4+)

395 360 Um. OK yes, that's also accurate. Did you have a point you were trying to make?
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 24, 2023 06:53 PM (Gu48G)

I was on Team Cruz last time, and it wasn't accurate, and he lost. There is zero downside to attacking a primary opponent and the obvious candidate is the one people are talking about.

Posted by: Fightwinger at May 24, 2023 06:58 PM (fAXb0)

396 @291 Serious Cat,

I'm with you. Trump got DEMOCRATS to vote for him. Trump got people who had NEVER VOTED to come to the polls for him. Trump got minority voters to come to his rallies and see what we were all about. Turns out, we aren't the hateful, evil people the KneePad Media describe.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 06:58 PM (VDbGO)

397 You want General Washington
You will settle for General Pinochet
You will get Corporal Punishment
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

As long as I've got my Private Parts.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 24, 2023 06:58 PM (FVME7)

398 If Pushaw works for him you might see the best Republican media campaign since Reagan in 84.

One thing I really like about DeSantis - he comes with a group of allies and friends that love to fight the left and do it well.

Good point. I'm going to assume he won't give Scaramucci a job.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 06:58 PM (eOEVl)

399 Hell, I can do most of those things.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 24, 2023 06:51 PM (T/Lqj)
***

So....VP?
Maybe SecDef?
Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2023 06:54 PM (YGqO/)

1, 2 5 & 6

5 is iffy

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 24, 2023 06:59 PM (T/Lqj)

400 I was sexually assaulted by Ronaldo DeSantis in a department store changing room. It is seared in my mind.

When? Uh...I think it was shortly after Trump did it. And...Ronaldo did is...sexxxxxxier.

Posted by: E Jean Carroll at May 24, 2023 06:59 PM (lc5cP)

401 I don't know why we are exposed to the thoughts of these trans-conservatives.

Me either. They don't matter, they impact nothing, they influence no one, and they are diminishing in significance even in the eyes of the media.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 06:59 PM (0hOvj)

402 I was Governor of Florida once.

I’m smart, not dumb like people say. I’m smart and I want respect.

I was passed over!

Please clap.
Posted by: Jeb! Inbred and Loving It! at May 24, 2023 06:57 PM

*claps hands hard over Jeb!'s ears*

Posted by: Gomez Addams at May 24, 2023 06:59 PM (Wnv9h)

403 I'm with you. Trump got DEMOCRATS to vote for him. Trump got people who had NEVER VOTED to come to the polls for him. Trump got minority voters to come to his rallies and see what we were all about. Turns out, we aren't the hateful, evil people the KneePad Media describe.
Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 06:58 PM (VDbGO)

I guess that's a good point. DeSantis only won Florida by 20 points last year, so it's obvious he doesn't have any reach beyond hard-core Republicans.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 06:59 PM (tp+tP)

404 Posted by: NCKate at May 24, 2023 06:57 PM (d5Qya)

What is the horrible woman lawyer who brought forward a bunch of women who claimed Trump sexually harrassed them?. She's warming up a group now for De Santis.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2023 07:00 PM (Keyt1)

405 Trump 2024 or nobody

Good. Adios.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:00 PM (eOEVl)

406 Off, Addams sock!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2023 07:00 PM (Wnv9h)

407 Trump and Truth Social sues Washington Post for $3.7 billion. For slander and lies.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at May 24, 2023 07:00 PM (CecP5)

408 Trump got millions of Obama voters to vote for a Republican for the first time in their lives

__

That's a bit of a stretch. He maybe got a few hundred thousand. Which was substantial and enough to win MI, WI and PA. But it wasn't millions.
Posted by: Montec at May 24, 2023 06:53 PM (OalnH)
******
And unfortunately a lot of those people that voted for Trump the 1st time have soured on him because of the drama, especially women and independents.

I hope people rethink not voting or voting for Biden instead of DeSantis or Trump.

The Dems are serious about making DC a state and packing the court. They just need a few more seats in the Senate.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2023 07:00 PM (NpAcC)

409 What would a beta like Kristol know about alpha individuals?

Posted by: Unkaren at May 24, 2023 07:00 PM (LPkjK)

410 I'll vote for either one in the general. Not that I think it will make a difference.

Posted by: InZona at May 24, 2023 07:00 PM (3QuxM)

411 >>358 Coming in late to this thread. Do we need to wear hard hats?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

A mask.

Posted by: karen at May 24, 2023 07:01 PM (SYTee)

412 Gloria Allred is taking calls, ladies

Posted by: NCKate at May 24, 2023 07:01 PM (d5Qya)

413 What is the horrible woman lawyer who brought forward a bunch of women who claimed Trump sexually harrassed them?. She's warming up a group now for De Santis.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2023 07:00 PM

Gloria Allred?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2023 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)

414 329 Going to try to just sit this one out this cycle. I like both Trump and Desantis for different reasons. I don't really care which of them get the nomination. I think they would have had a chance of beating the fraud on the same ticket. I don't think either of them can get to 270, because there is no way to win the needed states out of a combination from PA, GA, VA, WI, NV, and AZ.

Democrats have a lock with their absentee ballot machine and GOP pretends that elections are about electable candidates. So Biden is going to win by however many votes are needed.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 24, 2023 06:49 PM (5p7BC)

To pre-validate Joe's win by cheating, starting soon the MFM will use only polls that have Biden beating the R front-runners and eventual nominee by 5 percent or more. Not hard to do when all the MFM outfits have their own polling operation or partner with a "non-partisan" organization.

Posted by: Gref at May 24, 2023 07:01 PM (AMIL/)

415 18-1: "Ultimately the only thing that matters is which of the two has a plan to defeat the fraud in the six stolen states that will work. And unfortunately...just the right level of OpSec so the left can't stop it."

+1

Vote counting for the win. Nothing else matters. It's tragic but it's true. And fraud is coming like we've never seen considering how the current regime got in and might actually fear - for the first time ever - retribution.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 24, 2023 07:01 PM (aXxgO)

416 What I want from DeSantis tomorrow' is his economic plan.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2023 06:57 PM (oot1N)

I want to see his Abolish the fbi, the doj, the doe, the atf, etc, etc….plan.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 24, 2023 07:01 PM (R/m4+)

417 I guess that's a good point. DeSantis only won Florida by 20 points last year, so it's obvious he doesn't have any reach beyond hard-core Republicans.

Somebody call the ambulance, because someone got burned.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:01 PM (eOEVl)

418 The media lost its mind long before this.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2023 07:01 PM (Keyt1)

419 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2023 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)

Yes, that's it. Thx. A senior moment.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2023 07:02 PM (Keyt1)

420 So....VP?
Maybe SecDef?
Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2023 06:54 PM (YGqO/)

1, 2 5 & 6

5 is iffy
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 24, 2023 06:59 PM (T/Lqj)
***

Ahh!
Homeland Security or DCI!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2023 07:02 PM (YGqO/)

421 https://www.hamburgermarys.com/locations/

Interesting...they've gone to a franchise only model apparently, both the original two (SF and Maui) don't show up any longer.

And they've gotten much more flamboyant. Back in the day there was a strong gay element but it wasn't freaky...

Posted by: JEM at May 24, 2023 07:02 PM (8erNz)

422 There was a Hamburger Mary's In Honolulu and our utterly clueless CO was singing its praises and suggesting it as a venue for a command event.

To be fair, in the daytime the habitues would have been just nice, trim, clean cut young fellas in aloha wear.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at May 24, 2023 07:02 PM (qA0m5)

423 What would a beta like Kristol know about alpha individuals?
Posted by: Unkaren at May 24, 2023 07:00 PM

That they don't like it when his wife uses her teeth?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2023 07:02 PM (Wnv9h)

424 Trump's lawsuit filed in FL

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at May 24, 2023 07:03 PM (CecP5)

425 Total disaster on Twitter

Posted by: JP at May 24, 2023 07:03 PM (P+wMm)

426 LinusVanPelt - Thanks, I've had a lot of time to think about this coming election.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 24, 2023 07:03 PM (5p7BC)

427 I hope people rethink not voting or voting for Biden instead of DeSantis or Trump.

The Dems are serious about making DC a state and packing the court. They just need a few more seats in the Senate.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2023 07:00 PM (NpAcC)

Oh, I'm voting for whichever one wins the nomination, and anyone who refuses to do so can eat a bag of d*cks. I just wish I had any confidence that Trump could win the general once again.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 07:03 PM (tp+tP)

428 I can't wait for Baseball Cuck and Erick Erickson say this was the best speech they ever heard, a tingle went up their legs.

Posted by: UwU_Power at May 24, 2023 07:03 PM (3kWw+)

429 DJT by any account had more votes than his first election. And there is a very good chance he had more than what they give him.
Read many articles the Marxists have a dozen ways to trash Republican or suspected Republican votes

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2023 07:03 PM (xhxe8)

430 Good point. I'm going to assume he won't give Scaramucci a job.
Posted by: Archimedes

Mebbe he'll give us the man, the myth, Rinsed Penis as a transition team head!

Posted by: weft cut looop at May 24, 2023 07:03 PM (jzzG8)

431 I thought David Dukes were those sexy denim short shorts.
Posted by: wth at May 24, 2023 06:45 PM (v0R5T)

Only when worn by a guy.

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2023 07:03 PM (xlzFg)

432 Democrats have a lock with their absentee ballot machine and GOP pretends that elections are about electable candidates. So Biden is going to win by however many votes are needed.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 24, 2023 06:49 PM (5p7BC)

This is everything. Until the issues laid bare in 2020 (and beyond) are seriously addressed, none of this matters.

Posted by: DaisyB at May 24, 2023 07:03 PM (AbL8c)

433 If you've ever been on any team or detachment, this is not the movie you want to see. I don't mind a good fair fight to see who will be the best, but tactics matter. Any fight that becomes personal and vested in ego serves no one. Trump and DeSantis together on the same page, articulating the same goals is a winner. Not for them. For us, which is what really matters. Thus far the crap I am seeing serves nobody. It only serves to satiate egos and ultimately divide us the same way Democrats are trying to do.

We are weaker divided, and they know it. Undertaking this process, as currently conducted is sure to lead to defeat.

Show some leadership, assholes.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2023 07:03 PM (L9/32)

434 399 1, 2 5 & 6

5 is iffy

i can only do 10, 2, and 4

Posted by: dr. pepper at May 24, 2023 07:04 PM (oY6Yp)

435 are you guys listening ? because I am ...

Posted by: runner at May 24, 2023 07:04 PM (V13WU)

436 Who has the whiskey jug?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2023 07:04 PM (CFSPL)

437 So you think the outcome of the election was completely legit?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain

Yes, I have heard that from many, many people on this site.

*rolls eyes*

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:04 PM (eOEVl)

438 It's working !!

Posted by: runner at May 24, 2023 07:04 PM (V13WU)

439 He was running against Crist.

And BTW Meatball in 2022 got a MILLION less votes in Florida than Trump got in 2020.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 24, 2023 07:05 PM (VpRzs)

440 Ixnay on Ramaswamy. Remember Nikki Haley? She turned out to be not all that.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2023 07:05 PM (Uv0D2)

441 Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2023 07:03 PM (L9/32)

I see it more one sided.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 07:05 PM (MNhXM)

442 395 360 Um. OK yes, that's also accurate. Did you have a point you were trying to make?
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 24, 2023 06:53 PM (Gu48G)

I was on Team Cruz last time, and it wasn't accurate, and he lost. There is zero downside to attacking a primary opponent and the obvious candidate is the one people are talking about.

Posted by: Fightwinger at May 24, 2023 06:58 PM (fAXb0)

That's absurd. You don't attack someone if you don't think you need to in the primary because you want to take as many of their voters as possible in the general. This is so painfully obvious I can't believe anyone would miss it. This is why Cruz resisted attacking Trump for so long in the primaries. If Trump were inevitable with no threat, he would be focusing on Biden and only Biden. He isn't, his surrogates aren't, the OnlyTrumpers aren't. They're lying when they say the believe DeSantis can't beat Trump.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 24, 2023 07:05 PM (Gu48G)

443 Insiders claim that DeSantis has set his sights on former Trump press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders to be his VP pick after she won the race to become the state's first female governor in November, succeeding Gov. Asa Hutchinson who served in the role since 2015.

"He really only has one strong choice: Sarah," the source told RadarOnline.com exclusively. "He is desperate to lock up his running mate before he makes his formal announcement. He would announce his VP candidate very soon afterward."

After 4 years of the orange clown show, we finally got a President and a VP who are decent and intelligent and don’t embarrass us on the world stage.

Sarah Huck would be a beard, just as Palin was.

I hope he picks her. It would guarantee his loss in the general, should he make it that far.

they are unappealing and extremely gross, in not only what they think do and say, but aesthetically. Both are vile, racist, evil and rotten, and that Russian money's dried up, plus DeathSantis is almost as crooked and into some shady things down there in his banana republic of DeathSatinstan.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 24, 2023 07:05 PM (NCgXW)

444 @417 I guess that's a good point. DeSantis only won Florida by 20 points last year, so it's obvious he doesn't have any reach beyond hard-core Republicans.

Somebody call the ambulance, because someone got burned.

***************************************

Yeah, and I heard for over a year that Hillary was a 99% lock to win the presidency. Gosh, these burn wounds. I'll go get the Solarcaine.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 07:05 PM (VDbGO)

445 Who has the whiskey jug?
Posted by: nurse ratched

The bear on the right. Duh~!

Posted by: weft cut looop at May 24, 2023 07:06 PM (jzzG8)

446 Who has the whiskey jug?
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2023 07:04 PM

Pug.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2023 07:06 PM (Wnv9h)

447 DeSantis and Elon are talking about woke book banings

Posted by: runner at May 24, 2023 07:06 PM (V13WU)

448 "It's working !!"

You're welcome.

Posted by: Bob Dole at May 24, 2023 07:06 PM (VMFAF)

449 I'll vote for whoever promises to nuke DC
Posted by: wth at May 24, 2023 06:48 PM (v0R5T)

As long as it's big enough to take a small part of Northern Virginia with it.

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2023 07:06 PM (xlzFg)

450 I’m smart, not dumb like people say. I’m smart and I want respect.

I was passed over!

Please clap.
Posted by: Jeb! Inbred and Loving It! at May 24, 2023 06:57 PM
.........

You still married to that midget?

Posted by: wth at May 24, 2023 07:06 PM (v0R5T)

451 oh, yay! governor awesome is floating the possibility of replacing dianne feinstein with oprah winfrey!

Posted by: anachronda at May 24, 2023 07:07 PM (oY6Yp)

452 Both men have good and bad points.

What we need is to merge the two's best qualities into a new entity.

Trumpsitis

DeSantump?

Trusantis?

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at May 24, 2023 07:07 PM (VTu1l)

453 and the border

Posted by: runner at May 24, 2023 07:07 PM (V13WU)

454 "I see it more one sided.
Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 07:05 PM (MNhXM)"

Everybody involved in this owns a piece of it. Every one. You don't go to war with the army you want, you go with the army you have. We don't need fratricide, we need every person working towards the same goal.

Can do that? Hit the fucking bricks.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 24, 2023 07:07 PM (L9/32)

455 Remember all Trump has to do to win his 3.7 Billion dollar lawsuit is present the preponderance of the evidence. The discovery ought to be delicious.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at May 24, 2023 07:08 PM (CecP5)

456 they are unappealing and extremely gross, in not only what they think do and say, but aesthetically. Both are vile, racist, evil and rotten, and that Russian money's dried up, plus DeathSantis is almost as crooked and into some shady things down there in his banana republic of DeathSatinstan.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 24, 2023 07:05 PM

Forget the whiskey jug, nurse. Grab some of what those people are smoking.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 24, 2023 07:08 PM (Wnv9h)

457 Paraphrasing: We'll stop that. We will construct a border wall and will have Remain in Mexico.

So, a complete rubberstamp for the GOPe.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:08 PM (eOEVl)

458 What we need are 50 conservative governors. If DeSantis is allowed to win--allowed to win, yes--he will be hampered from day one by the same enemies Trump had. Then they'll steal his reelection and undo whatever small things he managed to achieve.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 24, 2023 07:08 PM (CHHv1)

459 I voted for Trump twice. I intend to vote for DeSantis in 2024.
Even if Trump gets elected in 24 (and I don't think he will be), he will be a lame duck. If it's a choice between Trump and Biden, I will vote for Trump. But I would really like DeSantis to win the nomination.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at May 24, 2023 07:09 PM (HabA/)

460 Ultimately the only thing that matters is which of the two has a plan to defeat the fraud in the six stolen states that will work. And unfortunately...just the right level of OpSec so the left can't stop it.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2023 06:55 PM (lc5cP)

100%. And since Trump is the one who was personally schlonged by the cheating in 2020, I would hope he would be out front with his explanation for why that won't happen again. I already know he can beat Biden at the polls. He did it in 2020. What I don't know is how he will keep the Democrats from stealing the election again. Assuming DeSantis is no threat to him whatsoever, that would be a better use of his airtime.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 24, 2023 07:09 PM (Gu48G)

461 Meh. At least it was over quickly.

Posted by: Peaches at May 24, 2023 07:09 PM (14URa)

462 And BTW Meatball in 2022 got a MILLION less votes in Florida than Trump got in 2020.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 24, 2023 07:05 PM (VpRzs)

Wait, you mean midterm elections draw fewer voters than presidential-cycle elections?!?! Oh Lord! Now I have to rethink everything I know about politics!

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 07:09 PM (tp+tP)

463 Democrats have a lock with their absentee ballot machine and GOP pretends that elections are about electable candidates. So Biden is going to win by however many votes are needed.
Posted by: Dave in Fla
____

It didn't help that Trump told people not to vote early. he's now changed his tune.

But I do agree a BIG reason why Republicans are losing close elections is this urban legend that we somehow do better by voting day of only.

Kari Lake's own campaign manager (privately) was saying that's why they lost. Her insistence that people not vote early.

But count me as one that wants to get rid of all mail in, early voting. But it looks like that ship has sailed. Stupid to not do it.

Posted by: Blago at May 24, 2023 07:09 PM (cOFom)

464 After 4 years of the orange clown show, we finally got a President and a VP who are decent and intelligent and don’t embarrass us on the world stage.

**********

There is no reality or multiverse in which this comment could have seriously been said.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at May 24, 2023 07:09 PM (VTu1l)

465 "And unfortunately a lot of those people that voted for Trump the 1st time have soured on him because of the drama, especially women and independents."

=====

Yes. Trump is completely toxic to about a 1/3rd of the people who helped put him into office.

The idea that he can win again is complete delusion.

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 24, 2023 07:09 PM (i7Q7S)

466 FL has eVerify. the only state I think

Posted by: runner at May 24, 2023 07:09 PM (V13WU)

467 nurse, I got some Watershed right here. Care to join me?

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2023 07:09 PM (oot1N)

468 Sarah needs to stay where she is

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2023 07:09 PM (xhxe8)

469 I'm thinking as we roll into 2024 we begin to consider Ace's Cabinet.
First off, I'm thinking Weasel for SecDef. Muldoon for Surgeon General.
Thoughts?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 24, 2023 07:10 PM (YGqO/)

470 He’s spent more time getting a government paycheck than Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 24, 2023 06:52 PM (VpRzs)

Depends on which gov't you're talking about.

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2023 07:10 PM (xlzFg)

471
After 4 years of the orange clown show, we finally got a President and a VP who are decent and intelligent and don’t embarrass us on the world stage.

Just laughed so hard a little bit of pee came out. Gold Jerry, COMEDY GOLD!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 24, 2023 07:10 PM (17s+e)

472 >>> After 4 years of the orange clown show, we finally got a President and a VP who are decent and intelligent and don’t embarrass us on the world stage.

This person needs to be institutionalized.

Posted by: DJ at May 24, 2023 07:10 PM (H5y4s)

473 458 What we need are 50 conservative governors. If DeSantis is allowed to win--allowed to win, yes--he will be hampered from day one by the same enemies Trump had. Then they'll steal his reelection and undo whatever small things he managed to achieve.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 24, 2023 07:08 PM (CHHv1)

——-

That’s a key point.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 24, 2023 07:10 PM (VpRzs)

474 Insiders claim that DeSantis has set his sights on former Trump press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders

She was one of Trump's best picks so if true that would show DeSantis is thinking strategically...

Take away one of Trump's most important potential allies in the primary and give himself a heavy weight VP in the general.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2023 07:10 PM (lc5cP)

475 It's cute that some of you guys think this matters one bit. Until the fraud mechanisms are broken and rooted any out in any number of states, this is completely irrelevant. It does not matter who the nominee is, there will be enough ballots so that the democrat 'wins'. Any other thought is just fooling yourself.

Posted by: Nightowl at May 24, 2023 07:11 PM (nAogr)

476 @468

>>Sarah needs to stay where she is

See that's a GOPe uniparty move if there ever was one.

Take two of your best and effective Governors and squirrel them away in the capital city.

This is why we cannot have nice things.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2023 07:11 PM (up/3i)

477 After 4 years of the orange clown show, we finally got a President and a VP who are decent and intelligent and don’t embarrass us on the world stage.

Just laughed so hard a little bit of pee came out. Gold Jerry, COMEDY GOLD!
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger

This person needs to be institutionalized.
Posted by: DJ at May 24, 2023 07:10 PM

I try to pick the best comedy and insanity from DU , and yes...that line covered all the bases, and more...

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 24, 2023 07:12 PM (NCgXW)

478 464 After 4 years of the orange clown show, we finally got a President and a VP who are decent and intelligent and don’t embarrass us on the world stage.

**********

There is no reality or multiverse in which this comment could have seriously been said

even the one were people have hot dogs for fingers?

Posted by: anachronda at May 24, 2023 07:12 PM (oY6Yp)

479 425 Total disaster on Twitter
---
Yeah, Ace's YT link is working perfectly for me, but how many people are listening?

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 24, 2023 07:12 PM (sWM8x)

480 I'm thinking as we roll into 2024 we begin to consider Ace's Cabinet.
First off, I'm thinking Weasel for SecDef. Muldoon for Surgeon General.
Thoughts?

Sponge for Secretary of the Treasury

Why?

Well he was the first cabinet official

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2023 07:12 PM (lc5cP)

481 304 I'm starting to think that the technical difficulties in the beginning will actually be beneficial for D. It highlights that DeSantis is doing things differently, and isn't a generic GOPe candidate.

He’s BOUGHT, what do you not understand about that

Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 07:12 PM (YTg8w)

482 And it wouldn't be a recent election cycle if we didn't have some paid bimbos saying that announced "Republican candidate" pinched my rear, etc.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2023 07:12 PM (Keyt1)

483 "There is no reality or multiverse in which this comment could have seriously been said."

I take it you haven't seen the DU comments? /s

Posted by: Bosk at May 24, 2023 07:12 PM (VMFAF)

484 390 Trump 2024 or nobody
Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 06:56 PM (MwHgU)

"Nobody" will be Biden then. Enjoy 4 more years.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at May 24, 2023 07:13 PM (HabA/)

485 But I do agree a BIG reason why Republicans are losing close elections is this urban legend that we somehow do better by voting day of only.

Kari Lake's own campaign manager (privately) was saying that's why they lost. Her insistence that people not vote early.

But count me as one that wants to get rid of all mail in, early voting. But it looks like that ship has sailed. Stupid to not do it.
Posted by: Blago at May 24, 2023 07:09 PM (cOFom)

I give Lake a pass on that, since (as I recall) the fear was that GOP mail-in ballots would be """lost""".

And so we got totally accidental voter-machine malfunctions that happened only in red precincts. Heads I win, tails you lose.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 07:13 PM (tp+tP)

486 even the one were people have hot dogs for fingers?

*******

ok maybe ONE reality...

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at May 24, 2023 07:13 PM (VTu1l)

487 >>> I try to pick the best comedy and insanity from DU , and yes...that line covered all the bases, and more...

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 24, 2023 07:12 PM (NCgXW)

Whatever you are getting paid, it's not enough.

Posted by: DJ at May 24, 2023 07:13 PM (H5y4s)

488 even the one were people have hot dogs for fingers?

Posted by: anachronda at May 24, 2023 07:12 PM (oY6Yp)

This is not about King Charles.

Posted by: Peaches at May 24, 2023 07:13 PM (14URa)

489 It's cute that some of you guys think this matters one bit. Until the fraud mechanisms are broken and rooted any out in any number of states, this is completely irrelevant. It does not matter who the nominee is, there will be enough ballots so that the democrat 'wins'. Any other thought is just fooling yourself.
Posted by: Nightowl at May 24, 2023 07:11 PM (nAogr)

Why are you even commenting if everything is so hopeless?

You've clearly surrendered. So, go have a beer and relax.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2023 07:13 PM (RJQ8g)

490 One for you, two for me, one for you, two for me, two more for me...

Posted by: Vote Counter at May 24, 2023 07:13 PM (SYTee)

491 "Even my worst critics in FL acknowledge that I follow through. I understand the leverage points. You've got to know how to use your leverage.

Our voters are sick of the empty promises."

Gee, who could he be alluding to?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:13 PM (eOEVl)

492 He gets a real AG to arrest Wray/ Garland for something, and threatens Hillary and Obama for their role in RussiaGate. Thats a start

Or he just gives Mitch Rapp a list and a box full of pardons.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 24, 2023 07:14 PM (YXHzG)

493 14 Can't wait until DeSantis starts lighting him the f*** up on The Trump Lockdowns.

It was NOT a President Trump decision, it was a state decision

Duh!!

Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 07:14 PM (MwHgU)

494 Wait, you mean midterm elections draw fewer voters than presidential-cycle elections?!?! Oh Lord! Now I have to rethink everything I know about politics!
Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 07:09 PM (tp+tP)

————

Y’all don’t mind suggesting a blowout win against Charlie Crist is a big to do.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 24, 2023 07:14 PM (VpRzs)

495 Show some leadership, assholes.
Posted by: Marcus T

I agree. Attack the left, not your supposed opponent. Reagan (PBUH) used wit. Trump has no wit.
Damn... much as I loved him as President, he could have been so much more with a modicum of political sense.
I'm leaning Desatanist.

Posted by: MkY at May 24, 2023 07:14 PM (cPGH3)

496 Louisiana passes Constitutional carry, and it is Veto proof, because of the vote numbers.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at May 24, 2023 07:14 PM (CecP5)

497 Donna&&&&&&V

Hiya !

Good to see your nic !

Posted by: JT at May 24, 2023 07:15 PM (T4tVD)

498 Whatever you are getting paid, it's not enough.

*******

Agreed, Mannix needs to send him a boatload of based conservative girlie pics.

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at May 24, 2023 07:15 PM (VTu1l)

499 I like this format !

Posted by: runner at May 24, 2023 07:15 PM (V13WU)

500 Trump in 2016 very much came off as an independent that just had an R next to his name. Like a Ross Perot if he had run as a Republican. It felt fun and fresh. Trump also had a #1 TV show not that long ago (from 2016) and it helped his brand.

That's all gone, those voters aren't coming back. His brand is gone.

And even in 2016 when all of this did work, it was a one off because he was up against Hillary Clinton.

Trump basically took 100k or so white working class voters in the Rust Belt that probably thought Hillary reminded them of their mother-in-law or ex-wife. In all sorts of other states, he underperformed Romney.

It just wasnt the victory people thought it was.

Posted by: Blago at May 24, 2023 07:15 PM (cOFom)

501 I'm with you. Trump got DEMOCRATS to vote for him.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 06:58 PM (VDbGO)

So did DeSantis, in Florida (this past election). It's one of the reasons so many looked his way so quickly.

Having said that, I'm not entering the fray, just pointing out a missed point.

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2023 07:15 PM (xlzFg)

502 468

>>Sarah needs to stay where she is

See that's a GOPe uniparty move if there ever was one.

Take two of your best and effective Governors and squirrel them away in the capital city.

This is why we cannot have nice things.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2023 07:11 PM (up/3i)
*****
Yeah, Sarah needs to stay where she is and get some experience governing.

This is how you get another Asa Hutchinson in AR.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2023 07:15 PM (NpAcC)

503 I'd take 20 Trump NFTs over what this has become, Steve Deace made lil' Ben Shapiro look like one of the HodgeTwins in how much of a simp he sounded.

Posted by: UwU_Power at May 24, 2023 07:15 PM (3kWw+)

504 I think for a while Desantis will say the right things and toss red meat to the base. Meanwhile, deep state will continue its thing to wrap Trump in lawsuit after lawsuit and possible jail. Desantis will stay quiet on this ("I'm staying above that," sound familiar?) and that will cause rumbles in the base. Then the Ryan/Bush/Rove/doner influence and $$ will craft his campaign and then? Who knows? Wish he would have waited for '28 and thrown his support behind Trump. Would have had a chance at cracking deep state operatives and a shot at MAGA.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at May 24, 2023 07:15 PM (iyVGU)

505 He’s BOUGHT, what do you not understand about that
Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 07:12 PM (YTg8w)

I believe the issue is not so much lack of understanding as the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 07:15 PM (tp+tP)

506 Trump is the past.

Posted by: runner at May 24, 2023 07:16 PM (V13WU)

507 republic of DeathSatinstan

Just rolls of the tongue, huh?

Posted by: BignJames at May 24, 2023 07:16 PM (AwYPR)

508 He’s BOUGHT, what do you not understand about that

You're not bright. What do you not get about that?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:16 PM (eOEVl)

509 If Histrionic Personality Disorder were a political party...

Posted by: Hell's Santa at May 24, 2023 07:16 PM (MFIfh)

510 I am looking forward to Trump / DeSantis wars !

Posted by: runner at May 24, 2023 07:16 PM (V13WU)

511 84 390 Trump 2024 or nobody
Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 06:56 PM (MwHgU)

"Nobody" will be Biden then. Enjoy 4 more years

At least I will know what we are getting, DeSantis is bought and a disloyal pice of Sh!t

Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 07:16 PM (MwHgU)

512 She's ~~warming up~~ auditioning a group now for De Santis.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2023 07:00 PM (Keyt1)

FIFY

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2023 07:17 PM (xlzFg)

513 How are things going in here? I truly wish it wasn’t going to be a schoolyard fight between these two and more us against the commies in the WH, but it’s just a dream. I would vote for either Desantis or Trump. I don’t think it matters. I am laughing at at the presto chango with Trump from the likes of the True Conservative Inc.’s spokescretin,

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2023 07:17 PM (ZdaMQ)

514 500+k cumulative in the Space right now.

Scott Presler is out in the world trying to solve the GOPsGOTV and harvesting issues, while the former President's endorsed party chair won't talk to him.

Anybody telling you that people aren't trying to fix it are full of it. One candidate wants the problems, and it was proven when he didn't endorse Harmeet.

Posted by: Calvinist Hobbes at May 24, 2023 07:17 PM (/Mj1R)

515 [j] I am looking forward to Trump / DeSantis wars !

It will give me opportunity to find other blogs and read more books.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 24, 2023 07:17 PM (YXHzG)

516 Its fun to speculate and guess and make up percentages but until there's a vote nobody knows what voters have been "lost" or "gained" for anyone. Especially there's no basis for being so obstinate and confident. Has Trump gained or lost voters? Nobody knows. He certainly gained a ton between 2016 and 2023

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 07:18 PM (0hOvj)

517 Voting early has not one thing to do with it except tell the Marxists they need more fraud to be positive they will win.

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2023 07:18 PM (xhxe8)

518 Gee, who could he be alluding to?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:13 PM (eOEVl)

To be fair, "empty promises" and a failure to follow through covers a *lot* of politicians. Like 99%.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 07:18 PM (tp+tP)

519 Dr. T - In short, I don't think there is any point to it. The game is rigged and the people who want America are on the losing side.

I'll be watching out of curiosity, because the strategies used interest me. But I see no evidence that anyone learned the real lesson of 2022.

I could be wrong, and there is a secret plan that we don't know about to turn the tables on the ballot harvesting operations. If that is the case, it doesn't matter who wins the nomination, because Biden is unelectable in a fair election.

Hell, even someone I generally respect like Rich Baris didn't learn his lesson. He tried to pretend that he was just a little wrong in his polling, and refused to realize that his polling was exactly correct, just irrelevant to the election results. Which I get, who wants to admit that their entire career is useless?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 24, 2023 07:18 PM (5p7BC)

520 "We want a colorblind, merit-based accreditation process."

No hemming and hawing, just cut to the chase. Beautiful.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:19 PM (eOEVl)

521
Why are you even commenting if everything is so hopeless?

You've clearly surrendered. So, go have a beer and relax.

He is pointing out what the actual target to be hit is, not the straw man everyone is shooting at.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at May 24, 2023 07:19 PM (CecP5)

522 There is no reality or multiverse in which this comment could have seriously been said

even the one were people have hot dogs for fingers?
Posted by: anachronda at May 24, 2023 07:12 PM

In that universe, when your wife's bull sticks his finger up her ass, is it a sandwhich?

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at May 24, 2023 07:19 PM (NCgXW)

523 OK, does Meatball ever say anything against the people we really hate, even ace hates

like Mitch and his buds

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 07:20 PM (us2H3)

524 Gee, who could he be alluding to?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:13 PM (eOEVl)

To be fair, "empty promises" and a failure to follow through covers a *lot* of politicians. Like 99%.

Agree. But that doesn't mean he wasn't alluding to Trump.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:20 PM (eOEVl)

525 Dana Loesch is axing questions

Posted by: runner at May 24, 2023 07:20 PM (V13WU)

526 What is Ben Shapiro's sister up to?

Suddenly my attention is aroused

Posted by: Regular joe at May 24, 2023 07:20 PM (nnp+f)

527 Jeb 2.0

Posted by: IrishEi at May 24, 2023 07:20 PM (3ImbR)

528 I like DeSantis but he just brings to much drama.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2023 07:20 PM (ZLI7S)

529 @502

>>This is how you get another Asa Hutchinson in AR.

The GOP needs to become very strategic in this War we are in, you shouldn't be wasting your best pieces in same battle.

You need defensive potions and bulwarks, and as has been said, The Presidency is largely a false prize.

Fortify the states, fight against a rapacious and tyrannical government, show the way, and fight were you can.

As I said, DeSantis running in 24 is just dumb, suggesting Sanders be his VP pick is even dumber.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2023 07:20 PM (up/3i)

530 Meatball went in the wrong door and is on Space X atm

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 07:20 PM (us2H3)

531 I'll sit out this thread.

For some reason we have a contingent around here who thinks anyone not an ineffective (okay, credit for the justices) orange windbag is 'bought'.

We need someone who can win and someone who's going to be brutal once in office.

Posted by: JEM at May 24, 2023 07:20 PM (8erNz)

532 84 390 Trump 2024 or nobody
Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 06:56 PM (MwHgU)

"Nobody" will be Biden then. Enjoy 4 more years

At least I will know what we are getting, DeSantis is bought and a disloyal pice of Sh!t
Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 07:16 PM (MwHgU)

Okay, so you're an idiot and don't actually care about the issues whatsoever. Thanks for clarifying.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 07:20 PM (tp+tP)

533 If that is the case, it doesn't matter who wins the nomination, because Biden is unelectable in a fair election.

I had his real numbers in 2020 in the 60M range, lower then Obama and Hillary...but also lower then Mittens and on par with McVain.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2023 07:20 PM (lc5cP)

534
So did DeSantis, in Florida (this past election). It's one of the reasons so many looked his way so quickly.

Having said that, I'm not entering the fray, just pointing out a missed point.
Posted by: GWB
______

And you have to ask "why" do you think Trump was able to get a small amount of Democrats to vote Republican.

I think it was over trade and immigration, something that other Republicans can also achieve. Without Trump's baggage.

Posted by: Blago at May 24, 2023 07:21 PM (cOFom)

535 SHS is no political neophyte. She's going to be
loaded for bear when she makes a move.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2023 07:21 PM (YUFnU)

536 As I said, DeSantis running in 24 is just dumb, suggesting Sanders be his VP pick is even dumber.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2023 07:20 PM (up/3i)

Bernie's a camera hog for sure but I think he would be a no

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 07:22 PM (us2H3)

537 I like DeSantis but he just brings to much drama.

Are you being facetious? Honest question.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:22 PM (eOEVl)

538 While DeSantis is having a length conversation to open his campaign with a number of speakers, over on Truth Social, somebody is wailing about the size of his "red button" and making Norko Kim his friend again.

Sad.

Posted by: Calvinist Hobbes at May 24, 2023 07:22 PM (/Mj1R)

539 I could be wrong, and there is a secret plan that we don't know about to turn the tables on the ballot harvesting operations. If that is the case, it doesn't matter who wins the nomination, because Biden is unelectable in a fair election.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 24, 2023 07:18 PM (5p7BC)

———

TBH, I kinda thought at least Project Veritas would infiltrate a few voting districts.

I hear Trump is working on a vote harvesting operation. But what we will see is that Dems will be allowed to harvest freely and Repubs all arrested.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 24, 2023 07:22 PM (VpRzs)

540 Ron is talking at the level that Donald never could and never will. Answering serious policy questions with gravity they deserve.

Posted by: runner at May 24, 2023 07:22 PM (V13WU)

541 You need defensive potions and bulwarks, and as has been said, The Presidency is largely a false prize.

Depends on what you are planning to do with it.

And...all good governors do is buy you time. Biden didn't get Vaxports because of DeSantis...but give the Junta another 8 years and we'll have so many new citizens they won't need fraud any more.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2023 07:22 PM (lc5cP)

542 Well, I would happily vote for either Trump or DeSantis. Too bad they both have to persuade us to not vote for the other guy, because I like both of them and don't want them picking on each other. But that's how it goes when campaigning for office.

Posted by: Emmie -- MoMe-curious AR morons and Farmer, please email me at May 24, 2023 07:22 PM (Emce2)

543 Genuflecting. That's almost as bad as crudite.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:22 PM (eOEVl)

544 Trump doesn't have a spotless record. Let's be fair. Is very soft on 2nd amendment, and the lockdown thing hurts... a lot.
And I like him.
Posted by: MkY at May 24, 2023 06:09 PM (cPGH3)

Trump and DeSantis are both good candidates, lightyears ahead of the scum the Donks put up. I'd like to see both on one ticket.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2023 07:22 PM (6Nm7G)

545 I doubt that Don has a clue what operation chokepoint even is.

Posted by: runner at May 24, 2023 07:23 PM (V13WU)

546 535 SHS is no political neophyte. She's going to be
loaded for bear when she makes a move.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 24, 2023 07:21 PM (YUFnU)

we'll be ready

Posted by: Kohler at May 24, 2023 07:23 PM (us2H3)

547 Palin being picked for VP - most awesome thing ever

Sanders being picked for VP - No! We need her to stay as governor!!

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 07:23 PM (MNhXM)

548 Ron is talking at the level that Donald never could and never will. Answering serious policy questions with gravity they deserve.

Absolutely agree.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:23 PM (eOEVl)

549 >>Are you being facetious? Honest question.

I should ask you the same thing when you say that about Trump.

Welcome to actually running. Enjoy not sitting on the sidelines throwing rocks. Now the fun starts.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2023 07:23 PM (ZLI7S)

550 I could be wrong, and there is a secret plan that we don't know about to turn the tables on the ballot harvesting operations. If that is the case, it doesn't matter who wins the nomination, because Biden is unelectable in a fair election.

Hell, even someone I generally respect like Rich Baris didn't learn his lesson. He tried to pretend that he was just a little wrong in his polling, and refused to realize that his polling was exactly correct, just irrelevant to the election results. Which I get, who wants to admit that their entire career is useless?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 24, 2023 07:18 PM (5p7BC)

I understand what you're saying, and it's possible you're right. But I can't accept that yet. I have to believe there's a real chance of beating them.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 07:23 PM (tp+tP)

551 this has been a really interesting roundtable

540 Ron is talking at the level that Donald never could and never will. Answering serious policy questions with gravity they deserve.

yep agree

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 24, 2023 07:24 PM (w0NJk)

552 At least I will know what we are getting, DeSantis is bought and a disloyal pice of Sh!t
Posted by: Gonzotx
___

I've got a long list of conservative betrayals from Trump, starting with the way he dealt with Covid.

but what has DeSantis done that has been wrong? Running against someone who keeps losing elections?

Posted by: Blago at May 24, 2023 07:24 PM (cOFom)

553 536 As I said, DeSantis running in 24 is just dumb, suggesting Sanders be his VP pick is even dumber.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2023 07:20 PM (up/3i)

Bernie's a camera hog for sure but I think he would be a no
Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 07:22 PM

The voters love a moderate unity ticket!!!

Posted by: The Lincoln Project at May 24, 2023 07:24 PM (NCgXW)

554 What we need

is a hero

https://tinyurl.com/42nmcvsb

Posted by: DB - at May 24, 2023 07:24 PM (geLO8)

555 Why are you even commenting if everything is so hopeless?

You've clearly surrendered. So, go have a beer and relax.

He is pointing out what the actual target to be hit is, not the straw man everyone is shooting at.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at May 24, 2023 07:19 PM (CecP5)

Whaaaaat?

Basically, the comment boiled down to "no matter what you do you lose. Why try?"

I think you're over-reading what was said.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 24, 2023 07:24 PM (RJQ8g)

556 65 "And unfortunately a lot of those people that voted for Trump the 1st time have soured on him because of the drama, especially women and independents."

=====

Yes. Trump is completely toxic to about a 1/3rd of the people who helped put him into office.

The idea that he can win again is complete delusion

How the hell can you not understand the “drama” is all about the deep state trying to seat us through destroying President Trump?

He gave everything to us and this is how you repay him

Your disgusting amd so is your 1/3

Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 07:24 PM (MwHgU)

557 At least I will know what we are getting, DeSantis is bought and a disloyal pice of Sh!t
Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 07:16 PM (MwHgU)
*******
DeSantis won't be banning gas stoves, dishwashers, appointing leftist judges, adding more leftist justices, making DC and PR a state and pushing trans indoctrination on our children and so much more.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 24, 2023 07:25 PM (NpAcC)

558 539 I could be wrong, and there is a secret plan that we don't know about to turn the tables on the ballot harvesting operations. If that is the case, it doesn't matter who wins the nomination, because Biden is unelectable in a fair election.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 24, 2023 07:18 PM (5p7BC)

this and the political landscape is going to deterioate for the dims next year

and the war is gonna become a liability

Posted by: Kohler at May 24, 2023 07:25 PM (us2H3)

559 The Donks want Trump. They screwed him once and will do it again and his negatives are so high too many people will be happy to see it again.
I am not comfortable with DeSantis's motive for running.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at May 24, 2023 07:25 PM (Eeb9P)

560 528 I like DeSantis but he just brings to much drama.
===
OK, I lolled at that one.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 24, 2023 07:26 PM (sWM8x)

561 this and the political landscape is going to deterioate for the dims next year

and the war is gonna become a liability

Don't forget groceries now being 3X or 4X what they were under Trump...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2023 07:26 PM (lc5cP)

562 I understand what you're saying, and it's possible you're right. But I can't accept that yet. I have to believe there's a real chance of beating them.
Posted by: Dr. T
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At least DeSantis supporters actually believe there's a chance to win an election.

It just seems the Trump people are 100% in lockstep that no Republican will be allowed to win.

I honestly would love a legit Trump supporter to square this argument for me. "No one can beat Biden, and it damn well better be Trump that loses to Biden (again)"

Posted by: Blago at May 24, 2023 07:26 PM (cOFom)

563 Three ways you can tell if someone is sucking GOPe dick.

1) the 2020 election was fair and Trump lost
2) Arizona in 2022 was fair, there was signature verification and they handled ballots properly, and Lake was just a bad candidate
3) Desantis' campaign launch was just great

Posted by: UwU_Power at May 24, 2023 07:26 PM (3kWw+)

564 >> Ron is talking at the level that Donald never could and never will. Answering serious policy questions with gravity they deserve.

Ludicrous. You might remember, Trump actually was president and has an outstanding record of achievement to run on. You think he did that by accident?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2023 07:26 PM (ZLI7S)

565 He gave everything to us and this is how you repay him

He's a politician, not The Messiah.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:26 PM (eOEVl)

566 Posted by: Emmie -- MoMe-curious AR morons and Farmer, please email me at May 24, 2023 07:22 PM (Emce2)

I think and hope DeSantis continues with why he is the best for the job and to vote for him instead of why the other guy is the worst thing for the country.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 07:26 PM (MNhXM)

567 I never liked whitewalls on pickup trucks

Posted by: DB - at May 24, 2023 07:26 PM (geLO8)

568 The election is going to be guns and abortions 24/7.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at May 24, 2023 07:26 PM (Eeb9P)

569 I hear Trump is working on a vote harvesting operation. But what we will see is that Dems will be allowed to harvest freely and Repubs all arrested.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 24, 2023 07:22 PM (VpRzs)

Don't forget all the pieties from the government-media complex about how "counting votes honestly is a cornerstone of our democracy."

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 07:27 PM (tp+tP)

570 2 At least I will know what we are getting, DeSantis is bought and a disloyal pice of Sh!t
Posted by: Gonzotx
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I've got a long list of conservative betrayals from Trump, starting with the way he dealt with Covid.

but what has DeSantis done that has been wrong? Running against someone who keeps losing elections

Really? Trump was the most conservative President we have ever had, from 2 admemdment, Roe, employment, higher wages, energy surpluses, you name it

Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 07:27 PM (MwHgU)

571 voter harder you guys.

Posted by: slubdog at May 24, 2023 07:27 PM (/Rqse)

572 557 At least I will know what we are getting, DeSantis is bought and a disloyal pice of Sh!t
Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 07:16 PM (MwHgU)

If Meatball would be this disloyal, out in the open, to someone he owes a modicum amount of loyalty to

what in the fuck do he think he wil do to us behind closed doors

Posted by: Kohler at May 24, 2023 07:28 PM (us2H3)

573 DeSantis needs to stop talking over the others.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:28 PM (eOEVl)

574 The election is going to be guns and abortions 24/7.

I would just love to see some Republican at the national level offer a bill to ban gun ownership for anyone that has ever voted for a Democrat as president and ask the Dems why they won't save it..."if it even saves one life!"

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2023 07:28 PM (lc5cP)

575 @541

>>And...all good governors do is buy you time. Biden didn't get Vaxports because of DeSantis...but give the Junta another 8 years and we'll have so many new citizens they won't need fraud any more.

But the difference now in the states is that there is now an aggressiveness and willingness within the GOP to actually fight and advance the agenda.

DeSantis is not going to be able to translate the Florida is Where Woke Goes to Die template to the federal level nor most of the sh*t that is really important.

It's going to be essentially following the Trump template forcing your will, fighting against the Uniparty and hoping you don't get impeached by these maniacs.

The federal government is too broken and too far gone.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 24, 2023 07:28 PM (up/3i)

576 I should ask you the same thing when you say that about Trump.

Welcome to actually running. Enjoy not sitting on the sidelines throwing rocks. Now the fun starts.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2023 07:23 PM (ZLI7S)

OK, but this, this is facetious, right? We're not seriously suggesting that DeSantis and his supporters (or anyone who didn't instantly disavow him as a Rovian stooge) haven't been getting rocks thrown at them all year, are we?

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 24, 2023 07:28 PM (Gu48G)

577 540 Ron is talking at the level that Donald never could and never will. Answering serious policy questions with gravity they deserve.
---
Agree. Very articulate and detailed in his responses.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 24, 2023 07:29 PM (sWM8x)

578 other candidates should do this. RFK jr should do it!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 24, 2023 07:29 PM (w0NJk)

579 I would just love to see some Republican at the national level offer a bill to ban gun ownership for anyone that has ever voted for a Democrat as president and ask the Dems why they won't save it..."if it even saves one life!"

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2023 07:28 PM (lc5cP)

This guy is on fire. Sign me up.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 24, 2023 07:29 PM (Gu48G)

580 >>>this has been a really interesting roundtable

I'm glad he talked about ESG there at the end. This is the sort of thing that

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 07:29 PM (tp+tP)

581 Its kind of funny seeing how the left's bought trolls cannot decide on a clear, solid message or angle of attack. They're all over the place.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 07:29 PM (0hOvj)

582 Crap, hit enter. Anyway, that's the sort of thing that has me convinced he understands what the true issues are.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 07:29 PM (tp+tP)

583 Best of luck to DeSantis.
I'd rather he waited an election cycle but...go for it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 24, 2023 07:29 PM (xcxpd)

584 The restaurant chain Hamburger Mary's is suing Gov. Ron DeSantis and Florida

Who? Is this some east coast only thing? Never heard of them. I have no doubt they can find some idiot judge who will rule for them but they shouldn't find any support at all with any higher judges in the federal system.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 06:20 PM (0hOvj)

Hamburger Mary's? Wut? Typhoid Mary's was already taken?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2023 07:29 PM (6Nm7G)

585 Im fine with Trump or DeSantis and dont see why loyalty has to exclude one for the other.

On the other hand, if you vote for Haley or Hutchinson, i hope you choke on a pineapple

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at May 24, 2023 07:30 PM (VTu1l)

586 but what has DeSantis done that has been wrong? Running against someone who keeps losing elections?
Posted by: Blago at May 24, 2023 07:24 PM

Many of Trump’s candidates lost in close elections, where the GOP nationally was noticeably absent. I think the GOPe was quite happy to lose a few of those races, and many party leaders have already been cool on Trump running in 2024.

The fact they aren't bitching about DeSantis in the same way is immediately suspicious. I love what I'm hearing out of Florida for the last few years, and hope it's sincere and will continue, regardless of where DeSantis ends up.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 24, 2023 07:30 PM (NCgXW)

587 The West African swallow was originally described in the genus Hirundo. Some authorities consider it to be a subspecies of the red-rumped swallow.

Posted by: DB - at May 24, 2023 07:30 PM (geLO8)

588 Really? Trump was the most conservative President we have ever had, from 2 admemdment, Roe, employment, higher wages, energy surpluses, you name it
Posted by: Gonzotx at

Trump is not and never has been a social conservative. He did amazing things for this country, that is true. But he shouldn’t be canonized. No one has been perfect and no one will be.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2023 07:30 PM (ZdaMQ)

589 I bet RFK would be very interested.

Posted by: runner at May 24, 2023 07:30 PM (V13WU)

590 581 Its kind of funny seeing how the left's bought trolls cannot decide on a clear, solid message or angle of attack. They're all over the place.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 07:29 PM (0hOvj)

Oh, they're running A/B tests. Seeing what attacks land.
The Dems are not amateurs at running and stealing elections.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, GotG vol 3 review at May 24, 2023 07:30 PM (xcxpd)

591 517 Voting early has not one thing to do with it except tell the Marxists they need more fraud to be positive they will win.
Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2023 07:18 PM (xhxe

———-

Voting early at the polls is a different problem than mail in voting.

Voting early at the polls shows both Dems and Repubs who voted and what the current tallies are. They use that information to tailor the GOTV to the remaining people who haven’t voted.

Mail-in voting is essentially a black box without a chain of custody. The numbers aren’t even tabulated until Election Day. Obviously that is done on purpose to maximize fraud.

The voting systems in many states are completely fucked up and as a system is totally unreliable even outside the cheating.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 24, 2023 07:30 PM (VpRzs)

592 I honestly would love a legit Trump supporter to square this argument for me. "No one can beat Biden, and it damn well better be Trump that loses to Biden (again)"
Posted by: Blago at May 24, 2023 07:26 PM (cOFom)

1. There will be fraud
2. Trump is the only one who can possibly overcome it because he was wronged and everyone knows it; righteous anger is the ultimate motivator. Trump has that; no one else does
3. Despite #2, it’s still a steep climb because of #1
4. Having RDS and DJT team up would’ve made it easier to overcome the fraud; this dust up in the primary might ruin that (although they could team up even after a nasty primary)

Mostly #2

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2023 07:31 PM (xT8gx)

593 Trump is so toxic that he got more votes in 2020 than any person in History. Biden won only the vote count, not the actual vote.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at May 24, 2023 07:31 PM (CecP5)

594 I love Ron DeSantis, and I love what he's done for the state of Florida.

His silence on the Mar-a-Lago raid really bothered me. His alliances with those in the GOP most hostile to Trump bother me. The fact that he appears to be being used by the anyone-but-Trump crowd bothers me.

To my great shock, Donald Trump was a fantastic president. Wish we had a GOP which could ally itself with the American People and American interests all of the time. Instead, we have Bitch McConnell & Co.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 07:31 PM (VDbGO)

595 581 Its kind of funny seeing how the left's bought trolls cannot decide on a clear, solid message or angle of attack. They're all over the place.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 07:29 PM

Lol...unlike the left in general...

Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 24, 2023 07:31 PM (NCgXW)

596 DeSantis won't be banning gas stoves, dishwashers, appointing leftist judges, adding more leftist justices, making DC and PR a state and pushing trans indoctrination on our children and so much more.

You cannot take some new name seriously who argues the more conservative choice is Biden.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 07:31 PM (0hOvj)

597 nood

Posted by: Dr. T at May 24, 2023 07:31 PM (tp+tP)

598 He gave everything to us and this is how you repay him

Your disgusting amd so is your 1/3
Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 07:24 PM (MwHgU)

You seem confused about the dynamics of the employer-employee relationship.

DJT wasn't just disloyal to his constituency in 2020. He was disloyal to the Constitution, and disloyal to his own cabinet- including the most effective members of it. Instead of backing the repeatedly correct Atlas, he threw him under the bus. But hey- we got Fauci and Birx, hanging on for the duration. And how's Chris Wray working out for you?

I voted for Donald Trump as a choice for an employee. He failed at his job in crunch time. Subsequently, now that a far better hire is available, he's being replaced as far as I'm concerned.

He's fired.

Posted by: Calvinist Hobbes at May 24, 2023 07:32 PM (/Mj1R)

599 DeSantis is not going to be able to translate the Florida is Where Woke Goes to Die template to the federal level nor most of the sh*t that is really important.

He is literally the best positioned candidate since the appearance of woke to do just that.

He rammed through all that stuff in a purple state and literally turned it bright red.

He knows how to staff and assembled a group of friends and allies that fight just as hard as he does.

Will it work? Maybe not. There's a lot of bad people in DC to fight against. But he's bringing exactly the record you would pick if you could.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 24, 2023 07:32 PM (lc5cP)

600 592 Mostly #2
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 24, 2023 07:31 PM (xT8gx)

But how?

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2023 07:32 PM (ZdaMQ)

601 I just want to know, at what point does Meatball dropout

or is Maillman 2 OK with his supporters

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 07:32 PM (us2H3)

602 Trump is so toxic that he got more votes in 2020 than any person in History.

Yeah. I'm willing to buy that he may have lost votes since then but dang, that's a really tough point to ignore.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 07:32 PM (0hOvj)

603 Trump is not and never has been a social conservative. He did amazing things for this country, that is true. But he shouldn’t be canonized. No one has been perfect and no one will be.
Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2023 07:30 PM (ZdaMQ)

Cities were burned and the economy was destroyed while he was President. Yeah yeah, not his fault.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 07:32 PM (MNhXM)

604 >>OK, but this, this is facetious, right? We're not seriously suggesting that DeSantis and his supporters (or anyone who didn't instantly disavow him as a Rovian stooge) haven't been getting rocks thrown at them all year, are we?

Just as you are not suggesting that Ron's team of bought and paid for internet influencers like Cardillo and Buck Sexton haven't been hitting Trump while pretending to be independent voices.

It's politics. There will be blood. I like Trump's chances in that kind of a fight especially considering he already has a 30+ point lead.

I'll vote for either won he wins the nomination. I'd prefer Trump because I know what he will do and I know who is paying his bills. But let's stop pretending DeSantis is some sort of water walker. He barely beat a gay crackhead in FL and he needed Trump's help to do it. He's not some electoral juggernaut on the national level.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2023 07:33 PM (ZLI7S)

605 > 2. Trump is the only one who can possibly overcome it because he was wronged and everyone knows it; righteous anger is the ultimate motivator. Trump has that; no one else does

Which is why he was working the phones for Ronna behind the scenes instead of listening to his base and endorsing Harmeet.

Posted by: Calvinist Hobbes at May 24, 2023 07:33 PM (/Mj1R)

606 Trump is not and never has been a social conservative. He did amazing things for this country, that is true. But he shouldn’t be canonized. No one has been perfect and no one will be.
Posted by: Piper
____

We're celebrating Target moving its Pride stuff to the corner, meanwhile Trump waved a rainbow Pride flag at the GOP convention.

Or the Trump kids saying to lay off on Bud Light.
Or Trump saying DeSantos went too far with Disney.

But Trump is the only possible choice for a real conservative.

Posted by: Blago at May 24, 2023 07:34 PM (cOFom)

607 593 Trump is so toxic that he got more votes in 2020 than any person in History. Biden won only the vote count, not the actual vote.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at May 24, 2023 07:31 PM

He was so hated he increased his number of votes in 2020 by only about 20% over 2016...that's historically a guarantee to losing election...right?

Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 24, 2023 07:34 PM (NCgXW)

608 Trump is so toxic that he got more votes in 2020 than any person in History.

Yeah. I'm willing to buy that he may have lost votes since then but dang, that's a really tough point to ignore.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 24, 2023 07:32 PM (0hOvj)

It was a binary choice. My vote for Trump definitely wasn’t a measure of my admiration.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 07:34 PM (MNhXM)

609 Are they deliberately not saying anything about sending your kids to die for Ukranian money launderers?

Posted by: UwU_Power at May 24, 2023 07:35 PM (3kWw+)

610 564 >> Ron is talking at the level that Donald never could and never will. Answering serious policy questions with gravity they deserve.

Ludicrous. You might remember, Trump actually was president and has an outstanding record of achievement to run on. You think he did that by accident?
Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2023 07:26 PM (ZLI7S)

———-

Not to mention Trump’s smashing debut at the CNN town hall just a few weeks ago.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 24, 2023 07:36 PM (VpRzs)

611 I think it was over trade and immigration, something that other Republicans can also achieve.

Posted by: Blago at May 24, 2023 07:21 PM (cOFom)

I think it was over Americanism. And other Republicans could EASILY do that. A great many are hampered by being Progressives, some others are hampered by being wonks, and some are hampered by their passion for donuts it seems.

Trade (really jobs at home), immigration, having a strong military, etc. should be a guaranteed position for a Republican - where they start. But the progressivism has gotten stronger over the years and lots of Republicans couldn't even do that. So Trump beat them. MAGA!

Trump was certainly better than the alternatives (both times he's run, so far), according to a lot of Republicans (and enough Democrats). And a lot of people will vote for him.

But I certainly would like to see someone with better "conservative" credentials running, with a solid understanding of the Constitution, the DoI, and with a little less NYC flamboyance - but not much less. And to be a real winner, I think they should run on a policy of burning most of DC to the ground.

But I'll vote for what I get.

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2023 07:36 PM (xlzFg)

612 @603,

I would say our corrupt FBI happily allowed our cities to burn. Trump was trying to get a corrupt federal bureaucracy to do its job. They were far more interested in falsifying evidence against him for his persecution/prosecution.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 07:36 PM (VDbGO)

613 Cities were burned and the economy was destroyed while he was President. Yeah yeah, not his fault.
Posted by: polynikes at

I think we are arguing the same point - Trump was not perfect, he wasn’t and should not be made out like the guy who walked on water. But he did do amazing things for the country, he truly did, we had the best economy for a good bit, we had Middle East peace like no one thought could happen, he did more for black Americans than..well, any modern president. Covid is hard for me to wrap my head around, DeSantis locked down, too. He just pulled h is head out of his rear quicker than others. Who else besides Kristie Noem didn’t lock down? That is an honest question.

Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2023 07:36 PM (ZdaMQ)

614 I'll vote for either won he wins the nomination. I'd prefer Trump because I know what he will do and I know who is paying his bills. But let's stop pretending DeSantis is some sort of water walker. He barely beat a gay crackhead in FL and he needed Trump's help to do it. He's not some electoral juggernaut on the national level.
Posted by: JackStraw
____

So what's better, DeSantis winning his reelection bid or Trump losing?

If Trump couldn't put away a feeble old man like Biden the first time, he doesn't deserve a 2nd shot.

Posted by: Blago at May 24, 2023 07:37 PM (cOFom)

615 I'll vote for either won he wins the nomination. I'd prefer Trump because I know what he will do and I know who is paying his bills. But let's stop pretending DeSantis is some sort of water walker. He barely beat a gay crackhead in FL and he needed Trump's help to do it. He's not some electoral juggernaut on the national level.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 24, 2023 07:33 PM (ZLI7S)

Yeah, you and I will end up in the same place. I will vote for either DeSantis or Trump in the primary, but definitely for whichever one of them wins. I do wish Trump were projecting the strength and confidence that characterized his previous run and term in office. He and his supporters consistently make him look weak with his attacks from the left on DeSantis. Along with his silence on defeating the cheating tactics that cost in in 2020, that's why I fear he won't win the general election.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 24, 2023 07:37 PM (Gu48G)

616 585 On the other hand, if you vote for Haley or Hutchinson, i hope you choke on a pineapple
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at May 24, 2023 07:30 PM

So....you're saying there's a chance....

Posted by: Tim Scott at May 24, 2023 07:37 PM (NCgXW)

617 Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 07:36 PM (VDbGO)

Yeah not his fault. Nothing he could do about it as President.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 07:38 PM (MNhXM)

618 Joey: "You might ask why I'm not ahead by 50 points right now. No joke. No I'm serious. Ask yourself!"

Posted by: micky at May 24, 2023 07:38 PM (3byMq)

619 > If Meatball would be this disloyal, out in the open, to someone he owes a modicum amount of loyalty to

what in the fuck do he think he wil do to us behind closed doors
Posted by: Kohler at May 24, 2023 07:28 PM (us2H3)

Ivana, Marla, and Melania would all like to have a word.

Posted by: Calvinist Hobbes at May 24, 2023 07:39 PM (/Mj1R)

620 Posted by: Piper at May 24, 2023 07:36 PM (ZdaMQ)

Sorry my comment was not a retort to you. More of an add on.

Posted by: polynikes at May 24, 2023 07:40 PM (MNhXM)

621 Sigh. I wonder what's gonna happen when Don beats Ron.

Are we going to get an uninterrupted flow of "well Trump people were going to sit Ron out, so I'm sitting Trump out even though I complained about Trump People who said they would sit Ron out, but this is revenge so that's different"?

Because that's going to be something.

Posted by: ... at May 24, 2023 07:40 PM (lX8VI)

622 I would say our corrupt FBI happily allowed our cities to burn. Trump was trying to get a corrupt federal bureaucracy to do its job. They were far more interested in falsifying evidence against him for his persecution/prosecution.
Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 07:36 PM (VDbGO)

———-

Don’t worry a President Meatball will apply “leverage points”.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 24, 2023 07:41 PM (VpRzs)

623 What we need

is a hero

https://tinyurl.com/42nmcvsb
Posted by: DB - at May 24, 2023 07:24 PM (geLO

Today? Really?
You should have gone with...

What we need
is not another hero!
https://tinyurl.com/55757c7s

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2023 07:41 PM (xlzFg)

624 But I certainly would like to see someone with better "conservative" credentials running, with a solid understanding of the Constitution, the DoI, and with a little less NYC flamboyance - but not much less. And to be a real winner, I think they should run on a policy of burning most of DC to the ground.

But I'll vote for what I get.
Posted by: GWB
____

The only issue Trump really impressed me with was trade and immigration. he talked a good game, but didn't deliver.

I dont really consider Trump to be a conservative, he was more of a Ross Perot, America First type. Doesn't give a damn about smaller government (in fact, spent Obama under the table) , was fine running huge deficits, and is socially liberal. Also loves Big Business despite Big Business hating him.

Posted by: Blago at May 24, 2023 07:41 PM (cOFom)

625 But let's stop pretending DeSantis is some sort of water walker. He barely beat a gay crackhead in FL and he needed Trump's help to do it.

Oh, so we're just ignoring his 20% win now?

The only people talking like their guy is some sort of miracle worker are the Trumpists. Then they get all butthurt when you point out that he isn't.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:41 PM (eOEVl)

626 Oh, so we're just ignoring his 20% win now?

The only people talking like their guy is some sort of miracle worker are the Trumpists. Then they get all butthurt when you point out that he isn't.

And when you ask a polite question, they get all bitchy.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:42 PM (eOEVl)

627 @617 Polynikes,

Um, he fired James Comey. He took the steps that resulted in most of the 7th floor of the FBI being shown the door. Do you think Ron DeSantis can overcome the depth of the corruption of the swamp?

Trump asked for National Guard troops to be deployed for the January 6th protests. His security concerns were rejected, and yet those who rejected them still blame him.

The President doesn't really run Washington. He isn't a King. There are entrenched, powerful and profoundly corrupt forces at work there. More than anyone I've ever seen, Trump worked against them.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 07:44 PM (VDbGO)

628 And when you mention that Trump won two elections against the media the world and the odds, DeSantis people pretend that didn't happen and that he was some giant failure because he got cheated a second term.

Posted by: ... at May 24, 2023 07:44 PM (lX8VI)

629 Sigh. I wonder what's gonna happen when Don beats Ron.

Are we going to get an uninterrupted flow of "well Trump people were going to sit Ron out, so I'm sitting Trump out even though I complained about Trump People who said they would sit Ron out, but this is revenge so that's different"?

Because that's going to be something.
Posted by: ...

_____

Maybe

If Trump is the nominee, I know he loses. So then I ask if I need to send a message so he doesnt run in 2028 (which he will if he's still above ground)

Might better for conservatism long term if Trump loses a landslide instead of another 2020 repeat where he comes "only" 6 states short and people still think hes viable. Or his kids.

Posted by: Blago at May 24, 2023 07:44 PM (cOFom)

630 If Jeffery Epstein had been in with the Disney crowd, he'd be batting a thousand and fund-raising biggly for the Democrats!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 24, 2023 07:45 PM (fY84s)

631 And when you mention that Trump won two elections against the media the world and the odds, DeSantis people pretend that didn't happen

When? Who did that? Be specific. Name names.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:45 PM (eOEVl)

632 TBF - I prefer DeSantis to Trump. Ironically, I've voted for both of them twice.

I personally think that there is a marginal chance that the blowback from another obviously rigged election would allow someone like DeSantis to win in 2028, which is why I wanted him to sit this one out. Trump is highly favored to win the nomination and is going to go scorched earth on DeSantis like he did Rubio, Cruz, etc.

And then whoever wins the nomination is going to lose the general because the national GOP is run by a bunch of idiots. Until the national GOP insiders are gone, and a way to beat the vote fraud is dealt with, the election is lost. I don't want to see DeSantis , who is very good on policy and addressing what matters to the base, have his national chances destroyed. But he decided to run, so we will see.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 24, 2023 07:45 PM (5p7BC)

633 I listened to the whole thing.
I'm convinced. I think DeSantis has a plan and knows how to get it done.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2023 07:46 PM (t/2Uw)

634 Um, he fired James Comey.
Posted by: Sam Adams
____

He asked Comey to stay on. After the Hillary mess.

And then put Christopher Wray in charge.

And let Fauci put the country in lockdown, in fact, blasted Republican Governors for opening the country back up.

But he totally drained that swamp.

Trump was just a bunch of bumper sticker slogans but his worthless son in law Kushner actually ran the place.

Posted by: Blago at May 24, 2023 07:46 PM (cOFom)

635 the national GOP is run by a bunch of idiots

See, we have common ground.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:47 PM (eOEVl)

636 When? Who did that? Be specific. Name names.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:45 PM (eOEVl)

I will respond and quote the next time it happens.

Posted by: ... at May 24, 2023 07:47 PM (lX8VI)

637 Posted by: Dave in Fla

Trump is the one that put the current RNC regime in charge

Posted by: Blago at May 24, 2023 07:48 PM (cOFom)

638 I will respond and quote the next time it happens.

I look forward to it.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:48 PM (eOEVl)

639 I know I'm late to the thread but strange new respect from this blog for Ben Shapiro???

Oooookay.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 24, 2023 07:48 PM (Vwz3I)

640 I think DeSantis has a plan and knows how to get it done.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2023 07:46 PM (t/2Uw)

Sadly, that seldom wins elections nowadays.

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2023 07:50 PM (xlzFg)

641 Also TBF - Trump did very well in the CNN townhall. It is disingenuous to ignore that.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 24, 2023 07:50 PM (5p7BC)

642
Might better for conservatism long term if Trump loses a landslide instead of another 2020 repeat where he comes "only" 6 states short and people still think hes viable. Or his kids.

Posted by: Blago at May 24, 2023 07:44 PM (cOFom)

Ah here's one, Archimedes

Posted by: ... at May 24, 2023 07:51 PM (lX8VI)

643 @Blago,

And DeSantis is going to drain the swamp? Oddly, it looks like "the swamp" much prefers him over Trump. How should I interpret that?

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 07:52 PM (VDbGO)

644 Sorry it took so long!!

Posted by: ... at May 24, 2023 07:52 PM (lX8VI)

645 Blago - A point not lost on me. I don't hold Trump blameless.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 24, 2023 07:52 PM (5p7BC)

646 That was a 😁

Posted by: ... at May 24, 2023 07:52 PM (lX8VI)

647 Also TBF - Trump did very well in the CNN townhall. It is disingenuous to ignore that.

Obviously I'm a D guy, but I did try and listen to it. I rapidly got bored. It seemed like the same tired old schtick I've been hearing for 8 years now. I voted for Trump both times, think he did a very good job as president, but I suspect if I'm tired of him, a large slice of the electorate probably is as well.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:53 PM (eOEVl)

648 Wow, another "better for conservatism if Trump loses" post. Un-freaking-believable.

Got tickets to the next Bill Kristol cruise?

Ahoy!

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 07:53 PM (VDbGO)

649 It is a long time til the election and they are going to continue to beat Trump over the head with legal case after case. I am tired of the drama. Trump has spent more money disparaging DeSantis than talking about Biden's failures. He didn't put any money in the 2022 election when we couoldhave taken the senate. Why? So Biden fails instead of what is in the best interest of the country. He has not made any attempt to say what he would do differently this time around that would actually accomplish his goals. He could have helped the J6ers and instead let them rot in jail with public defenders.
It is time for a new generation.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2023 07:54 PM (t/2Uw)

650 And when you mention that Trump won two elections against the media the world and the odds, DeSantis people pretend that didn't happen

Might better for conservatism long term if Trump loses a landslide instead of another 2020 repeat where he comes "only" 6 states short and people still think hes viable. Or his kids.

I'm not sure that what Blago said meets the criteria for what you said, but regardless, I'd certainly agree that Trump was cheated out of those 6 states. Blago, care to weigh in?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:57 PM (eOEVl)

651 I am amused at how fast the battlelines, and hard unshakable positions, have been formed.

This is going to be interesting.

Pointless, but interesting.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 24, 2023 07:57 PM (5p7BC)

652 Elon had 3 million people listening in at the same time for his BBC interview.

With all the screwups of the tech savvy Meatball Squad, I'll be generous and say 600,000, even though it dipped well below that.

That's not good, that's generic Fox basic bitch numbers. For a generic Fox basic bitch candidate.

Posted by: UwU_Power at May 24, 2023 07:58 PM (3kWw+)

653 I'm not sure that what Blago said meets the criteria for what you said, but regardless, I'd certainly agree that Trump was cheated out of those 6 states. Blago, care to weigh in?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 07:57 PM (eOEVl)

I'm pretty sure it does, but it doesn't matter. There will be another.

Posted by: ... at May 24, 2023 07:59 PM (lX8VI)

654 I just don't get why we have two very strong candidates, and we absolutely have to divide the party and destroy each other. We literally have America-hating, Satan-worshiping, child-molesting Communists actively, openly destroying our nation, and here comes "The Stupid Party," ready to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory once again!

Why CAN'T the Bitch McConnell wing of the party side with America? Everyone having fun getting sold out to China?

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 07:59 PM (VDbGO)

655 I'm pretty sure it does, but it doesn't matter. There will be another.

...to be continued...

Posted by: Archimedes at May 24, 2023 08:01 PM (eOEVl)

656 49 It is a long time til the election and they are going to continue to beat Trump over the head with legal case after case. I am tired of the drama. Trump has spent more money disparaging DeSantis than talking about Biden's failures. He didn't put any money in the 2022 election when we couoldhave taken the senate. Why? So Biden fails instead of what is in the best interest of the country. He has not made any attempt to say what he would do differently this time around that would actually accomplish his goals. He could have helped the J6ers and instead let them rot in jail with public defenders.
It is time for a new generation.

Your wrong, he has laid out many planes including economic plans, your just not listening

Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 08:01 PM (MwHgU)

657 just don't get why we have two very strong candidates, and we absolutely have to divide the party and destroy each other.

+++
See, this is my issue. All Trump had to do was say he welcomed the competition. Let's hear from both candidates and let people decide based on who comes across as most able to win and get things done.
Instead Trump has resorted to name calling and childish rants. Have some respect. Trump should have embraced the conservative things that DeSantis has done in Florida and show how he would build on those ideas with fresh ideas of his own.
Let the primaries begin.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2023 08:05 PM (t/2Uw)

658 @sharon(willow's apprentice),

Ron DeSantis certainly could have spoken up when Trump's Mar-a-Lago home was being raided by the FBI.

But, Ron went into hiding, apparently because Orange Man Bad.

Respect is a two-way street.

Respect for the LAW shouldn't be conditional.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 08:08 PM (VDbGO)

659 Your wrong, he has laid out many planes including economic plans, your just not listening

Posted by: Gonzotx

I'm not listening? I'm here every day. Who are you?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2023 08:09 PM (t/2Uw)

660 05 He’s BOUGHT, what do you not understand about that
Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 07:12 PM (YTg8w)

I believe the issue is not so much lack of understanding as the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Look up his donors you Neanderthal

Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 08:10 PM (MwHgU)

661 I'm not listening? I'm here every day. Who are you?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2023 08:09 PM (t/2Uw)

he's on our side

you may not like his views but he's OK

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 08:11 PM (us2H3)

662 59 Your wrong, he has laid out many planes including economic plans, your just not listening

Posted by: Gonzotx

I'm not listening? I'm here every day. Who are you?

So ACE, who has a boy crush on Ronnie is who you are making your decisions by?

Interesting

Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 08:11 PM (MwHgU)

663 Someone up above said that we needed to get rid of the entire GOP leadership. I agree wholeheartedly with that. I do not agree with everything Donald Trump says and does. I also do not support those in the GOP who did everything they could to hamstring and backstab Trump at every turn.

Our nation is ON FIRE, and we're having slap fights. God help me.

If Elon needs volunteers to go to Mars, submit my name. I want off this fucking planet.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 08:14 PM (VDbGO)

664 8 He gave everything to us and this is how you repay him

Your disgusting amd so is your 1/3
Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 07:24 PM (MwHgU)

You seem confused about the dynamics of the employer-employee relationship.

DJT wasn't just disloyal to his constituency in 2020. He was disloyal to the Constitution, and disloyal to his own cabinet- including the most effective members of it. Instead of backing the repeatedly correct Atlas, he threw him under the bus. But hey- we got Fauci and Birx, hanging on for the duration. And how's Chris Wray working out for you?

I voted for Donald Trump as a choice for an employee. He failed at his job in crunch time. Subsequently, now that a far better hire is available, he's being replaced as far as I'm concerned.

He's fired.

I guess you forget President Trump is not a scientist and maybe you should go back amd watch the videos amd read the accolades of Fauci amd co. It was a globalist plot.
Did he do everything perfectly, no, but nobody tried harder, he pushed back china, he gave us energy independence, higher wages, lower taxes, stopped the influx of illegals, no wars

Your just nuts and ungrateful

Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 08:15 PM (MwHgU)

665 never heard Meatball's view on Mitch

why is that ?

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 08:16 PM (us2H3)

666 I try to make my points using reasoned arguments without resorting to calling people names or disprespecting them. I voted for Trump twice. I was devastated o election night. I respect what he has done and may very well vote for him again. But, I think a primary is in everyone's best interest to prove who can best handle the rigors of an election season.
I am suspicious of those who continue to name DeSantis donors as a reason he will screw us. He certainly has not screwed the people of Florida following through on all his promises.
I will respect your opinion when you present a point of view without name calling which is just juvenile.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2023 08:17 PM (t/2Uw)

667 I will respect your opinion when you present a point of view without name calling which is just juvenile.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2023 08:17 PM (t/2Uw)

aw, mom

* goes to room*

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 08:19 PM (us2H3)

668 aw, mom

* goes to room*

Posted by: REDACTED

And no dessert!

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2023 08:20 PM (t/2Uw)

669 LOL!!!! DeSantis is going "light up" Trump on lockdowns!? Are you drunk ? DeSantis isn't going to "light up" Trump at all. Where you asleep in 2016 ? Meanwhile, there were no "Trump lockdowns", so lighting him up over something that didn't exist is going to be a tough one.

Whether DeSantis can actually stand up to Trump better than the previous cast of establishment cucks remains to be seen. I'm rather doubting it, frankly.

Posted by: deadrody at May 24, 2023 08:23 PM (kYmXc)

670 never heard Meatball's view on Mitch

why is that ?

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 08:16 PM (us2H3)

I don't know. Did he spend the Trump years praising him, as Trump himself did?

Posted by: Enzo at May 24, 2023 08:23 PM (7zK8b)

671 Whether DeSantis can actually stand up to Trump better than the previous cast of establishment cucks remains to be seen. I'm rather doubting it, frankly.

Posted by: deadrody

Yep. Let the best man win.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2023 08:24 PM (t/2Uw)

672 What is Ron DeSantis' plan for fixing our corrupt, utterly broken FBI?

Can we hear it?

What is DeSantis going to do to drain the swamp?

Does he have any comment on the Durham Report? The FBI deliberately, knowingly falsified the "evidence" they used to target Trump.

Well, Ron?

I'm listening.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 08:26 PM (VDbGO)

673 I don't know. Did he spend the Trump years praising him, as Trump himself did?
Posted by: Enzo at May 24, 2023 08:23 PM (7zK8b)

so now we have to wait for Meatball to learn what Trump now knows

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 08:28 PM (us2H3)

674 so now we have to wait for Meatball to learn what Trump now knows

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 08:28 PM (us2H3)

Arguing that Trump was played like a fiddle by Mitch McConnell is really something.

Posted by: Enzo at May 24, 2023 08:29 PM (7zK8b)

675 Sam, you should have listened to the audio feed as he covered that.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2023 08:30 PM (t/2Uw)

676 Arguing that Trump was played like a fiddle by Mitch McConnell is really something.
Posted by: Enzo at May 24, 2023 08:29 PM (7zK8b)

assuming that Meatball knows what to with Mitch, without any evidence, is kinda dumb

unless you like Mitch, which I suspect you do

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 08:32 PM (us2H3)

677 assuming that Meatball knows what to with Mitch, without any evidence, is kinda dumb

unless you like Mitch, which I suspect you do

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 08:32 PM (us2H3)

You literally just admitted that Trump had no clue what to do with him. Your only defense is that DeSantis doesn't either. So AT WORSE, DeSantis is no worse than Trump on that, and there's a chance he's better.

Posted by: Enzo at May 24, 2023 08:33 PM (7zK8b)

678 You literally just admitted that Trump had no clue what to do with him. Your only defense is that DeSantis doesn't either. So AT WORSE, DeSantis is no worse than Trump on that, and there's a chance he's better.
Posted by: Enzo at May 24, 2023 08:33 PM (7zK8b)

OK you win

Posted by: REDACTED at May 24, 2023 08:35 PM (us2H3)

679 "Mitch McConnell/the Establishment/GOPe/Globalists/FBI/Deep State/whatever out-maneuvered Trump, made him their bitch, and utterly annihilated him in 2020.

Therefore Trump 2024."

Posted by: Enzo at May 24, 2023 08:36 PM (7zK8b)

680 DeSantis said he studied the constitution to figure out what mechanisms were available to the President to accomplish these tasks. He said that was what he did with the Florida constitution to be able to push through his agenda there. He also served 6 years in congress so understands about how to defund to get things done. He has elimiminated DEI and ESG in Florida. He has gotten conservative legislation passed.
Okay, I'm out. This is useless. My point is we shouold wait and see now that DeSantis is in. Let's see how he handles the pressure and how Trump handles the competition.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 24, 2023 08:37 PM (t/2Uw)

681 Trump was more effective at fighting the Deep State than anyone I've ever seen. That's why he was universally hated.

So far, all I've seen is Ron DeSantis forming an alliance with them. When all of your supporters in D.C. are reliable NeverTrumpers, it says quite a bit.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 08:40 PM (VDbGO)

682 681 Trump was more effective at fighting the Deep State than anyone I've ever seen. That's why he was universally hated.

So far, all I've seen is Ron DeSantis forming an alliance with them. When all of your supporters in D.C. are reliable NeverTrumpers, it says quite a bit.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 08:40 PM (VDbGO)

More effective? From what I've heard from Trump and his entourage, the Deep State rigged an election and drove him out of office. If they weren't in a position to steal the presidency from him in 2016, but were in 2020, doesn't that mean they grew more powerful in the intervening years?

If your priority is fighting the "Deep State", then Donald Trump was a complete failure.

Posted by: Enzo at May 24, 2023 08:41 PM (7zK8b)

683 Here is the thing, living in Florida

Ron kept voter fraud down last 2 elections.
Private school vouchers with no limits are a thing now.
July 1st I can constitutional carry and not have to worry about a concealed permit anymore.

Posted by: Garbone at May 24, 2023 08:46 PM (OcGS+)

684 Enzo,

They believed their election-rigging in 2016 was a lock. The shocked look on their faces when they were forced to concede said it all. America rejected them.

That they redoubled their vote fraud, including making unholy alliances with corrupt members of our own GOP, wasn't surprising. Trump revealed our media and our FBI as pathological liars and frauds. Of course, they did unbelievable things to drive him from office.

Ron DeSantis is aligned with all of the GOPe forces that backstabbed Trump relentlessly. These folks would happily see him get the nomination, if they could guarantee he'd lose to Hillary or Mike.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 08:50 PM (VDbGO)

685 Laura Loomer, a crackpot who seems to working for Trump in some capacity, actually Tweeted today that DeSantis was responsible for the death of his sister. (She died of cancer.) Trump kept repeating it on Truth Social. Voted for Trump twice but I am so done.

Posted by: Victoria at May 24, 2023 08:50 PM (DL+cI)

686 Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 08:50 PM (VDbGO)

What you're saying doesn't make any sense. If they can just rig it, why the hell would it just fail to work in 2016? No, what you're doing is making shit up on the spot. Desperate rationalizations to justify supporting a failed ex-president who does not care about you one bit.

Now you're saying DeSantis is aligned with the conveniently unnamed "GOPe forces" that "backstabbed Trump." Who are they? Give me specifics. Tell me who the GOPe forces that rigged the election are, and then tell me why Trump did nothing about them during his entire presidency.

Posted by: Enzo at May 24, 2023 08:54 PM (uxi9D)

687 I don't agree with everything Trump says or does. I'm just not willing to crap on him after seeing the unprecedented success he brought us in our economy, energy independence, manufacturing, China, the Abraham Accords, not starting any new wars, and revealing our media as the dishonest sacks of crap that they are. He did all of that, and lost money while in office. Unprecedented.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 08:55 PM (VDbGO)

688 "...and revealing our media as the dishonest sacks of crap that they are."

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 24, 2023 08:55 PM (VDbGO)

I knew the media was dishonest well before 2015, but you apparently didn't.

Posted by: Enzo at May 24, 2023 08:57 PM (y5Qni)

689 687 I don't agree with everything Trump says or does. I'm just not willing to crap on him after seeing the unprecedented success he brought us in our economy, energy independence, manufacturing, China, the Abraham Accords, not starting any new wars, and revealing our media as the dishonest sacks of crap that they are. He did all of that, and lost money while in office. Unprecedented

Amen brother

And donated his entire salary for z4 years to charities

Posted by: Gonzotx at May 24, 2023 09:10 PM (o0ull)

690 I like DeSantis making the race about delivering for the base.

I still want to see how he holds up when the left drags out a manatee that says Ron raped her on the Gulf Coast in 1976 and files defamation charges against him when he denies it. There would probably be some of EPA violation in that violation too.

You know the intel agencies and FBI will run ops on him, and it takes a special sort of person with a huge ego, and lots of money to stand up to those kinds of assaults. When they come and arrest everyone who associates with him, including his home room teacher from high school, then we will see if he can survive it. Certainly, he will have to crowd fund for his defense or they will bankrupt him That is how they got rid of Palin.

Posted by: Thatch at May 24, 2023 09:14 PM (VC7g0)

691 I'm still hoping for a Ron-and-Don ticket. Let Mr Trump hold the Veep slot and mouth off on all topics that come into (or through) his mind. When's he happens to be reasonably correct, Ron and the White House can take credit. When not, Ron can remind us that Don doesn't actually have the last word, just a position of advice and influence.

Teddy Roosevelt did well as a Veep, right?

Posted by: Pouncer at May 24, 2023 09:15 PM (F8RBU)

692 How about a Rubio/Ernst ticket?

Posted by: Not the GOPe....Pierre Goplecto at May 24, 2023 09:49 PM (NCgXW)

693 Fuck you Ace - you damned dirty Neocon NeverTrumper.

Posted by: MikeN at May 24, 2023 09:54 PM (6pRNu)

694 Maybe it's a really bad idea to say FU to the owner of this blog who is definitely NOT a neocon?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 24, 2023 09:57 PM (4FFgz)

695 693 Fuck you Ace - you damned dirty Neocon NeverTrumper.
Posted by: MikeN at May 24, 2023 09:54 PM

It's funnier if you read it in Charlton Heston Planet of the Apes curse voice.

Posted by: Movie Moron at May 24, 2023 10:01 PM (NCgXW)

696 693 Fuck you Ace - you damned dirty Neocon NeverTrumper.
Posted by: MikeN at May 24, 2023 09:54 PM (6pRNu)

Oh, yeah, that's really intelligent.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at May 24, 2023 10:45 PM (HabA/)

697 Deuce, what drug are you taking?

You claim “I also note that Trump's pitch in 2016 was to abandon prior loyalties to support him.”

“Prior loyalties” to who? To the GOPe? To the party of Bush, McCain, and Romney? Are you are on f@cking acid? Yes, you are on acid.

Why don’t you service a billionaire’s prick if your not doing it already? Rupert Murdoch has a time open in his schedule after Meatball is done servicing him.

Posted by: Soar Eagle and Dive Bomb Lefties at May 24, 2023 10:45 PM (FkMTW)

698 I agree that Trump did many good things as Prez. That's why I voted for him in 2020! But to demand absolute loyalty to Trump in return? I am loyal to no politician (and Trump is now a politician.) Nope. In 2016, Trump was about making America great again. Great. Now Trump is about Trump. I respect his achievements as president but if you cannot recognize that Trump is now above Trump over all, you are giving into a cult of personality like Stalin's.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at May 24, 2023 10:52 PM (HabA/)

699 Not sorry I missed thus one.

Posted by: flounder at May 25, 2023 01:36 AM (7R+co)

700
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Posted by: Victoria Parrish at May 25, 2023 03:14 AM (sxpjv)

701 Loyalty: Is it important that Buck and CBD are probably very loyal to you, Ace? I would assume it is. It is important and something that is very lacking in the republican party highlighting at least my lack of trust of literally the entire party with a few exceptions.

DeSantis: I have no issues with what he has done in Florida; it has all been wonderful except the added $1.5B in taxes...

I have a serious problem with his multinational donors who are really doing him never-ending disservices like launching on Twitter for godsakes: how many fucking conservatives are on fucking Twitter? Not very many.

In addition; a couple weeks ago Trump took RdS to task regarding the stupidity of taking on Disney rather than focusing on the MANY problems still on the rise in Florida. Trump is going to be proven right on the never-ending legal battles with Disney bleeding FL taxpayers dry...

Remember, Trump didn't lose the 2020 election, the republican party ceded control of their state elections to democrats(prolly for money because that what repubs are about).

He won in and landslide and we all know it; just look around.

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