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Fox News' Demo Ratings In Tucker's Old Slot? 90,000

That's horrific.

Tucker had been delivering demo ratings of 270,000 to 380,000 or so.

Fox News has lost two thirds of its in-the-demo (ages 25-54) audience.

Now they're losing to Allahpundit's old boicrush, Chris "Hotdogs!" Hayes.


In the time since they parted ways, ratings in primetime among key demographics of cable television viewers have cratered badly declined with Carlson's former show spot ratings dropping by around 50 percent. The network's audience among 25- to 54-year-olds had shrunk by two-thirds.

From AdWeek:

According to viewing figures produced by Adweek, a trade publication, for the evening of May 5, Carlson's former 8 p.m. ET slot attracted an audience of 90,000, while at the same time MSNBC's All In with Chris Hayes was seen by 145,000, among viewers aged 25-54.

In the other primetime slots at 9 p.m. and 10 p.m. on May 5, Fox News' offering was outpaced in viewership among the key demographic by MSNBC by 44,000 and 31,000 respectively.

By comparison, Carlson's final show on Friday, April 21 attracted more than 2.6 million viewers--270,000 in the 25-54 age bracket--while nearly 1.4 million watched the same slot on MSNBC. His departure was only publicly announced the following Monday.

According to Fortune magazine, his 8 p.m. ET slot averaged just over 3 million viewers across 2022, and was the second most popular program on cable TV.

Stephen Green says that Fox shouldn't count on "the Fox brand" getting them through this.

Fox News hasn't been the star, so to speak, with its conservative viewers since the network called Arizona early on Election Night in 2020. They threw away their brand that night and have since relied on genuinely conservative personalities like Tucker to maintain primetime dominance.


The neocons want "their party" -- a party which make corporations into gods and reflexively supports anyone in the hierarchy of authority without question or complaint, the party they used to own -- back. Tucker Carlson was opposed to neocon Old Guard Republicanism, so the neocons took him out.

But we're not going back to that. We're not patriots for repulsive, greedy corporate interests. Rupert Murdoch, NeverTrumpers, and the rest of the neocons can suck a bag of rotten dicks. We are never restoring you to power.

And if you oppose us? We'll just destroy you. You want a war? You and what Tranheuser-Busch army?

Well you got a war.

Are we being unreasonable, demanding that corporations that want our business actually respect our wishes and at least appear to respect us...?


What's that old saying?

"We can remain unreasonable longer than you can remain solvent."


Meanwhile: Media Matters reports that Tucker Carlson said that if you have pronouns in your Twitter bio, you're "on the other side" and shouldn't work at Fox!

Is this an Irena Briganti leak or has Media Matters been sitting on this?

Wow, what a stunning, damaging leak!

Oh em gee you guys, I'm so upset!

He says that Fox News is filled with liberals.

I can't believe that!

Matthew Gertz
@MattGertz

NEW FOXLEAKS: In a behind-the-scenes video obtained by Media Matters, Tucker Carlson discusses telling a female Fox executive that the network is besieged by liberals within and that Roger Ailes "would never put up with this shit."


Posted by: Ace at 03:30 PM




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1 *yawn* What a shame.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 09, 2023 03:30 PM (zZu0s)

2 HA HAH HAHAHH hA

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 09, 2023 03:30 PM (N1DT3)

3 Good and Harderer!

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at May 09, 2023 03:30 PM (+M04z)

4 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 03:31 PM (Zz0t1)

5 The left defeated Fox News, not Tucker.

And Fox News sucked.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:31 PM (LvTSG)

6 BUT, they don't care.

They don't want those rubes as their audience, so good riddance.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 09, 2023 03:31 PM (N1DT3)

7 Tucker was right on all the things he said..... Only makes me like him more

Posted by: It's me donna at May 09, 2023 03:31 PM (bs+z0)

8 Fox news being filled with liberals is not exactly shocking either.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 09, 2023 03:31 PM (zZu0s)

9 Heh. Hotdogs!

Shouldn't they be Soydogs? Cuz Chris Hayes can rub his hands together and make soyburgers.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 03:31 PM (Zz0t1)

10 Meanwhile: Media Matters reports that Tucker Carlson said that if you have pronouns in your Twitter bio, you're "on the other side" and shouldn't work at Fox!

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*faints*

He's so uncouth!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:32 PM (LvTSG)

11 5 The left defeated Fox News, not Tucker.

And Fox News sucked.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:31 PM (LvTSG)

Well, Fox News really is the one that shot itself in the balls.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 09, 2023 03:32 PM (zZu0s)

12 the hits keep missing!

Posted by: DanMan at May 09, 2023 03:32 PM (DB6tu)

13 In the Demo was quite the wistful Elvis song.

Posted by: spindrift at May 09, 2023 03:32 PM (ivvNA)

14 "we can't trust people" just because they're not even bothering to pretend they can be trusted?

what?

worse than hiittleer

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 09, 2023 03:33 PM (MLrvz)

15 MSNBC beat Fox News in demo ratings at 6pm, 7pm, 8pm, 9pm, and 10pm on Friday by an average of 35 percent in each time slot.

Fox News is suffering a cataclysmic primetime ratings drop following its firing of Tucker Carlson.

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I mean...this is quite a lesson.

No one will learn it. In fact, everyone will actively and purposefully learn the opposite lesson.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:33 PM (LvTSG)

16 And as expected, Trump found "liable" for "raping" a known liar.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 09, 2023 03:33 PM (mygsx)

17 One wag suggested that Fox could actually profit by having "better" Wall Street advertisers make up the difference from the normally low revenue Fox got from MyPillow and various gold merchants.

The problem is, they're collapsing so quickly that there's little need for Wall Street to save the network. Even if American corporations weren't increasingly insolvent.

Posted by: trev006 at May 09, 2023 03:33 PM (78UcJ)

18 yay. They're abandoning Fox.

But why are they switching to homoerotic programming like Chris Hayes on MSNBC?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 03:33 PM (Zz0t1)

19 Lachlan Murdoch is creaming his pants. "We finally did it!' We're like MSNBC!!"

Posted by: Sphynx at May 09, 2023 03:33 PM (P6qMv)

20 Is it weird that I got secktchually aroused by TV ratings?

Posted by: Monetc at May 09, 2023 03:33 PM (OalnH)

21 "We can remain unreasonable longer than you can remain solvent."

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ace, it's not about the money

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 09, 2023 03:33 PM (MLrvz)

22 Rotten dicks... ewwwww.

Posted by: Don LeMon at May 09, 2023 03:34 PM (ssESX)

23 Meh.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 09, 2023 03:34 PM (OTzUX)

24 Fox is in the offing.

Posted by: Joe Mama at May 09, 2023 03:34 PM (lZVy/)

25 I heard they put Kennedy in his slot. LOL

Good f*cking riddance Fox.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 09, 2023 03:34 PM (N5C4b)

26 Fox is muerto... Practicing the new official language soon to be coming to America

Posted by: It's me donna at May 09, 2023 03:35 PM (bs+z0)

27 Nothing better than watching Fox News while enjoying a Bud Light. Too soon?

Posted by: pahound at May 09, 2023 03:35 PM (YEjJg)

28 Somebody's got to take the fall. It's not going to be Rupert or his sons. Not going to be Paul Ryan (grrr).

Who. That PR woman?

Posted by: WisRich at May 09, 2023 03:35 PM (G0vdT)

29 18 yay. They're abandoning Fox.

But why are they switching to homoerotic programming like Chris Hayes on MSNBC?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 03:33 PM (Zz0t1)

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I'd have to dig into some more numbers, but the numbers in the screenshot seem to align with the numbers the competitor networks had before Tucker left.

The Fox News audience isn't replacing their 8pm views with the other cable networks. I don't know where they're going (Game Show Network? Food Network? HGTV? maybe) but it doesn't seem to be CNN.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:35 PM (LvTSG)

30 90,000 Dumb As A Stump Folks Wandering Around Out There.

That's larger than most NATO members Armed Forces.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 09, 2023 03:35 PM (MZjWj)

31 >>NEW FOXLEAKS: In a behind-the-scenes video obtained by Media Matters, Tucker Carlson discusses telling a female Fox executive that the network is besieged by liberals within and that Roger Ailes "would never put up with this shit."

Again, as I have relayed, I worked at FOX News for a number of years and the vast overwhelming majority of the people who work at FOX are as liberal and out there as AOC, even the broadcast engineering department which is typically not the norm.

The on-air talent are, for the most part what they appear to be.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 09, 2023 03:35 PM (up/3i)

32 Conservatives hate Fox because benching Tucker was the last straw for many.

But you don't have to be a conservative or a Tucker fan to see the move as at least foolishness, to remove your #1 draw.

Who does that?

Why, Fox Execs when they're not being invited to the right sort of parties, that's who.

Posted by: Axeman at May 09, 2023 03:35 PM (krQz2)

33 These leaks are like the Trump "revelations".

I was pretty sure a New York developer had to have done some shady things.

6 years of fine-toothed-combs and all they have is some nutjob claiming he raped her in a department store.

Similarly, given that Tucker has a primetime slot on Fox, I figured he was in on the con.

And they keep releasing "bombshells" to show I was too cynical.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 09, 2023 03:36 PM (N1DT3)

34 The left doesn't get it, like Trump, the more they try to tear Tucker down, the more we like him.

Idiots.

Posted by: Seems Legit. at May 09, 2023 03:36 PM (DcKNO)

35 How long has Tucker's erection lasted by now?

Posted by: TexasDan at May 09, 2023 03:36 PM (z/ifB)

36 "We can remain unreasonable longer than you can remain solvent."

I don't know about that. Solvent =/= profitable. They just are willing to pay for their propaganda and to keep reasonable voices outnumbered. It kills me that CNN still exists.

But OTOH soooooo happy to see the HUGE undeniable decline. FOX is nothing now. I refuse to watch Gutfeld.

Posted by: Iris at May 09, 2023 03:36 PM (NaH5I)

37 16 And as expected, Trump found "liable" for "raping" a known liar.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 09, 2023 03:33 PM (mygsx)

Did not find him liable on the rape but on sexual harassment/abuse and libel.

Posted by: 7man at May 09, 2023 03:36 PM (qwO6y)

38 Many people will be cutting the cord and streaming their conservative news now.

It's a damn hat trick.

It moved.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 09, 2023 03:36 PM (N5C4b)

39 Andrew McCarthy says this is not a witchhunt

Posted by: REDACTED at May 09, 2023 03:36 PM (us2H3)

40 homoerotic programming like Chris Hayes on MSNBC


Ain't it, though?

Posted by: Sphynx at May 09, 2023 03:36 PM (P6qMv)

41 Maybe they think ratings are like golf scores and they're trying to have the lowest.

Posted by: Weasel at May 09, 2023 03:37 PM (RG6z4)

42 16 And as expected, Trump found "liable" for "raping" a known liar.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 09, 2023 03:33 PM (mygsx)

Actually, he was found not liable of rape of the liar.
He was found liable for the lesser included of sexual assault of the liar.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2023 03:37 PM (exHjb)

43 11
Well, Fox News really is the one that shot itself in the balls.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 09, 2023 03:32 PM (zZu0s)

"We did it!!"
Kathryn Murdoch

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 09, 2023 03:37 PM (N39Ws)

44 Hotdogs! Hayes is OK, but I still prefer the moniker you used several years ago---"Fat Little Girl Chris Hayes".

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at May 09, 2023 03:37 PM (gf7Ez)

45 Conservatives hate Fox because benching Tucker was the last straw for many.

Yeah I think most had pretty much given up on Fox except for specific shows, and now its just gone from their lives.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2023 03:37 PM (0hOvj)

46 Fox News hasn't been the star, so to speak, with its conservative viewers since.....they hired Geraldo,

Posted by: These Fish Sticks Are Hard As Tits at May 09, 2023 03:37 PM (iOt02)

47 Posted by: Paul at May 09, 2023 03:36 PM (rTHA4)

========

MSNBC did more to promote Trump in 2016 than Fox.

Also, since Fox is dead and that's the only megaphone, no need to worry about memes on Twitter, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:37 PM (LvTSG)

48 The on-air talent are, for the most part what they appear to be.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 09, 2023 03:35 PM (up/3i)

...

You're saying Hannity is an actual stuffed shirt IRL?

Posted by: TexasDan at May 09, 2023 03:37 PM (z/ifB)

49 Ha, I am watching a Megyn clip talking about this right now, and she said "they get fucking slashies".

So hawt.

('Slashies' is apparently slang for ratings less than 50k.)

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 09, 2023 03:38 PM (ufFY8)

50 This is not surprising. I was done completely with fox in 2020.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 09, 2023 03:38 PM (zZu0s)

51 Wasn't e jean the one who said that women all love r*pe? Or was that a different fantasist?

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2023 03:38 PM (XjDqu)

52 I haven's seen a single "leak" about Carlson that made me pause. Everything he has said behind the scenes is fine with me.

Which makes me wonder about the intelligence of the people who make the decisions at Fox. They are monumentally out of touch, and it is distinctly possible that when they gamed out his firing they thought that America would shrug its shoulders and soldier on without a peep.

And that is amazing!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 03:38 PM (ZCCyW)

53 Shhhhh! He shouldn't be letting them know that they've outed themselves as idiots by including pronouns.

Posted by: Iris at May 09, 2023 03:38 PM (NaH5I)

54 49 Ha, I am watching a Megyn clip talking about this right now, and she said "they get fucking slashies".

So hawt.

('Slashies' is apparently slang for ratings less than 50k.)
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 09, 2023 03:38 PM (ufFY

She's working blue?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 09, 2023 03:38 PM (zZu0s)

55 We did it!

Posted by: Kathryn Murdoch at May 09, 2023 03:39 PM (aD39U)

56 I'd have to dig into some more numbers, but the numbers in the screenshot seem to align with the numbers the competitor networks had before Tucker left.

The Fox News audience isn't replacing their 8pm views with the other cable networks. I don't know where they're going (Game Show Network? Food Network? HGTV? maybe) but it doesn't seem to be CNN.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:35 PM (LvTSG)

They are cutting all cable, which destroys all the liberals and their networks. Fox will be the downfall of the entire cable network business...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2023 03:39 PM (exHjb)

57 6 years of fine-toothed-combs and all they have is some nutjob claiming he raped her in a department store.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 09, 2023 03:36 PM (N1DT3)

This disgusting judgment is completely expected from the Judeo-Christian legal system. May that wretched city and its pedophile vermin meet the fate of Sodom.

Posted by: trev006 at May 09, 2023 03:39 PM (78UcJ)

58 51 Wasn't e jean the one who said that women all love r*pe? Or was that a different fantasist?
Posted by: ... at May 09, 2023 03:38 PM (XjDqu)

That was her

Posted by: It's me donna at May 09, 2023 03:39 PM (bs+z0)

59 Advertising giants such as stand-up showers, Life Alert, and reverse mortgages will have to look elsewhere

Posted by: brak at May 09, 2023 03:39 PM (25k9m)

60 11 5 The left defeated Fox News, not Tucker.

And Fox News sucked.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:31 PM (LvTSG)

Well, Fox News really is the one that shot itself in the balls.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 09, 2023 03:32 PM (zZu0s)

Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 09, 2023 03:39 PM (eYoxG)

61 Again, as I have relayed, I worked at FOX News for a number of years and the vast overwhelming majority of the people who work at FOX are as liberal and out there as AOC, even the broadcast engineering department which is typically not the norm.

The on-air talent are, for the most part what they appear to be.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 09, 2023 03:35 PM (up/3i)
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That's what Ann Coulter was saying, even before they made her persona non grata.

She consistently said that as opposed to a normal newsroom that ran 90-95% liberal, fox is like 80-85% liberal. We've already seen it from people who crossed from Fox to MessNBC. Soon as they land at MessNBC they let their lib flag fly and start participating in all the spin popular with libs.

Posted by: Axeman at May 09, 2023 03:39 PM (krQz2)

62 Fox News hasn't been the star, so to speak, with its conservative viewers since.....they hired Geraldo,
Posted by: These Fish Sticks Are Hard As Tits at May 09, 2023 03:37 PM (iOt02)

...

They had Juan Whatsisname for awhile too.

I'll admit he was no Jonah Goldberg.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 09, 2023 03:39 PM (z/ifB)

63
Don't worry. We'll all be in the Gulags soon. Every one of us knows somebody who knows somebody who is distantly related to somebody who knows somebody who was within 600 yards of the Capitol on Jan. 6. So . . . see you in the camps.

Posted by: Sphynx at May 09, 2023 03:39 PM (P6qMv)

64 He says that Fox News is filled with liberals.

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That's certainly not the Fox News that I know.

Posted by: ShainS at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (6N3WH)

65 Again, as I have relayed, I worked at FOX News for a number of years and the vast overwhelming majority of the people who work at FOX are as liberal and out there as AOC, even the broadcast engineering department which is typically not the norm.

__

It's in NYC after all and it's in the entertainment world and union jobs. How many conservatives are there that could possibly exist that fall into all those 3 categories?

Posted by: Monetc at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (OalnH)

66 Mr. Hollister: Exactly how obscene an amount of money were you talking about? Just profane or really offensive?

Edward Lewis: Really offensive.

Mr. Hollister: I like him so much.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (Wy1BU)

67 60 Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 09, 2023 03:39 PM (eYoxG)

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This is a happy occassion!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (LvTSG)

68
Yet, She/it persevered.

Can't run a network solely on Mike Lindell ad revenue.

Or be invited to the right parties.

Posted by: Auspex at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (j4U/Z)

69 51 Wasn't e jean the one who said that women all love r*pe? Or was that a different fantasist?
Posted by: ... at May 09, 2023 03:38 PM (XjDqu)


I think I saw her say that on a news interview and they had to cut to commercial because E Jean's comments were beginning to out her as a lunatic.

Posted by: Emmie at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (Emce2)

70 The viewers that still watch Fox News are likely older, rural area folks that had to move back to Fox because DirecTV dumped NewsMax and AON.

I know people like that. They had no choice.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (Zz0t1)

71 Willowed, last thread, CBD in response to a comment exhibiting rather harsh sentiments re NYC and 9/11: "Fuck off asshole."

For some reason, I heard that in Ahnuld's "Terminator" voice, from the original movie scene containing that phrase.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (OTzUX)

72 Awww, that's too bad.

Good luck getting new viewers, guys....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (e6bHS)

73 NEW FOXLEAKS: In a behind-the-scenes video obtained by Media Matters, Tucker Carlson discusses telling a female Fox executive that the network is besieged by liberals within..."


Ace another old saying is, "Personnel is policy."

Posted by: Gref at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (AMIL/)

74 boy, Andy McCarthy wants Trump gone

like now

Posted by: REDACTED at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (us2H3)

75 Which makes me wonder about the intelligence of the people who make the decisions at Fox. They are monumentally out of touch, and it is distinctly possible that when they gamed out his firing they thought that America would shrug its shoulders and soldier on without a peep.

And that is amazing!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 03:38 PM (ZCCyW)

These are the people who employed Shep Smith.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (z/ifB)

76 Wasn't e jean the one who said that women all love r*pe? Or was that a different fantasist?
Posted by: ... at May 09, 2023 03:38 PM (XjDqu)

That's the one

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 09, 2023 03:41 PM (N1DT3)

77 Not sure what's funnier... Fox ratings or that someone there thinks these leaks are damaging to Tucker Carlson.

Posted by: Inogame at May 09, 2023 03:41 PM (53oGX)

78 @48

>>You're saying Hannity is an actual stuffed shirt IRL?

Just as he might allude to him being a Judo expert or to the days he washed dishes in a restaurant or won't let a guest get in three words edge wise on camera, he is exactly that off camera.

Charles Payne and Bill Hemmer are two of the more down to earth people off camera.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 09, 2023 03:41 PM (up/3i)

79 70 The viewers that still watch Fox News are likely older, rural area folks that had to move back to Fox because DirecTV dumped NewsMax and AON.

I know people like that. They had no choice.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (Zz0t1)

=========

Listen Steve Harvey is hosting reruns of Family Feud for about 13 hours a day on Game Show Network.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:41 PM (LvTSG)

80 A substantial portion of that 90,000 is people who had set their DVR's to record and keep forgetting to cancel.

Serious you guys.

Posted by: watch and see at May 09, 2023 03:41 PM (sh1GZ)

81 Why would people who used to watch Carlson, now watch Androgynous lying twat Chrissy Hayes? I'm guessing Hayes numbers haven't budged but Fox Newz has just shed viewers.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 09, 2023 03:41 PM (sAmhv)

82 Wasn't e jean the one who said that women all love r*pe? Or was that a different fantasist?
Posted by: ... at May 09, 2023 03:38 PM (XjDqu)

That was her
Posted by: It's me donna at May 09, 2023 03:39 PM (bs+z0)
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She also said that she fought off Trump with her genitals.

So...whacko.

Posted by: Axeman at May 09, 2023 03:41 PM (krQz2)

83 This is a happy occassion!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (LvTSG)

...

I don't consider myself to have lost a son, but to have gained a daughter, in a very real and legally binding sense.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 09, 2023 03:41 PM (z/ifB)

84 79 70 The viewers that still watch Fox News are likely older, rural area folks that had to move back to Fox because DirecTV dumped NewsMax and AON.

I know people like that. They had no choice.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (Zz0t1)

Yes they did - cut and move to streaming. Ace (and now Twitter) is all the news you need...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2023 03:42 PM (exHjb)

85 word on the street is Fox is going full time with Bill Hummer in Tuca's spot

Posted by: REDACTED at May 09, 2023 03:42 PM (us2H3)

86 At least ninety percent of the US adult population is unfit to serve on a jury.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 09, 2023 03:42 PM (3vCGB)

87 Fox News hasn't been the star, so to speak, with its conservative viewers since.....they hired Geraldo,
Posted by: These Fish Sticks Are Hard As Tits at May 09, 2023 03:37 PM (iOt02)

...

They had Juan Whatsisname for awhile too.

I'll admit he was no Jonah Goldberg.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 09, 2023 03:39 PM (z/ifB)

---------

And don't forget the severely conservative Donna Brazile!

Posted by: ShainS at May 09, 2023 03:42 PM (jDtMq)

88 Wasn't e jean the one who said that women all love r*pe? Or was that a different fantasist?
Posted by: ... at May 09, 2023 03:38 PM (XjDqu)

That's the one
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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Because rape is kind of sexy

Posted by: E Jean Carrol on CNN interview at May 09, 2023 03:42 PM (sh1GZ)

89 anyone who is still being paid by Fox while they are trying to destroy Tucker is complicit

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at May 09, 2023 03:42 PM (V6W16)

90 80 A substantial portion of that 90,000 is people who had set their DVR's to record and keep forgetting to cancel.

Serious you guys.
Posted by: watch and see at May 09, 2023 03:41 PM (sh1GZ)

That's mine.. I'm on sling and can't find a way to stop recording.. It just lets me delete it after it's recorded

Posted by: It's me donna at May 09, 2023 03:42 PM (bs+z0)

91
Rotten dicks... ewwwww.
Posted by: Don LeMon


Oh please. As if you're that particular.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 09, 2023 03:42 PM (n+4am)

92 74 boy, Andy McCarthy wants Trump gone

like now
Posted by: REDACTED at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (us2H3)

Are you surprised?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 09, 2023 03:43 PM (zZu0s)

93 The left are termites, they burrow into stuff they don't like and take it over from inside. They've done it to of thousands of institutions over the years, and are doing it right now. The problem is too many either assume "it won't happen to us" or "we're insignificant to them and they won't bother" or just aren't paying attention.

Its like fighting off disease, or maintaining a relationship, you have to work every day or the left WILL take over.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2023 03:43 PM (0hOvj)

94 Posted by: rhomboid at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (OTzUX)

And if I recall corrrectly, that was chosen from a list displayed on his heads-up display in his eye.

Great movie!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 03:43 PM (ZCCyW)

95 The other thing that cracks me up. They're clamoring about a couple hundred thousand viewers.

There's 350 MILLION Americans (and illegals) and they can only get a couple hundred thou?

This is why these shit networks will never go anywhere. It's all money laundering. 139k viewers should NOT make you a $2 mil a year salary and prime time spot on ANY network.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 03:43 PM (Zz0t1)

96 Essentially only a fraction of the NTers went full Max Boot in 2016. The rest went underground.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 09, 2023 03:43 PM (zZu0s)

97 Fox was all Neocon all the time in the Bush years, yes?

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2023 03:43 PM (PCK5/)

98 Wasn't e jean the one who said that women all love r*pe? Or was that a different fantasist?
Posted by: ... at May 09, 2023 03:38 PM (XjDqu)

That's the one
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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Because rape is kind of sexy
Posted by: E Jean Carrol
==
Hey babe, c'mon over to my pad.

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at May 09, 2023 03:44 PM (sh1GZ)

99 I know how to fix this.
They should give Juan Williams a show in Tucker's time slot.
First night's guest: Richard Fowler.

Posted by: wth at May 09, 2023 03:44 PM (v0R5T)

100 @67- might not need "Gulags" if they confiscate 401k's to fund pensions and "reparations"...

Posted by: pahound at May 09, 2023 03:44 PM (YEjJg)

101 ---
She also said that she fought off Trump with her genitals.

So...whacko.
Posted by: Axeman

Tear gas got nothin' on that cooch!

Posted by: Dressing Room Attendant at May 09, 2023 03:44 PM (lZVy/)

102 Because rape is kind of sexy
Posted by: E Jean Carrol on CNN interview


She's literally insane and cannot be trusted, either the defense sucked at getting this clear to the jury, or the jury simply hated Trump so much they didn't give a crap, like Biden Voters. "Yeah I know he groped little girls on camera and lies constantly, I know he's got a brain like maggoty tofu but that's my guy"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2023 03:44 PM (0hOvj)

103 I'm still amazed Fox offered zero public explanation for why Tucker was fired. How did they think that would ever fly?

One would think shareholders have a case against the board of directors for violation of fiduciary obligations.

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at May 09, 2023 03:44 PM (V6W16)

104 I'm sure Trump's appeal will be dismissed for lack of standing. That and he will be prosecuted for obstruction of justice for trying.

Posted by: Zek at May 09, 2023 03:45 PM (5FPX4)

105 She also said that she fought off Trump with her genitals.

So...whacko.

Posted by: Axeman at May 09, 2023 03:41 PM (krQz2)

Huh? A slap fight with her labia?

She's nuts!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 03:45 PM (ZCCyW)

106 This is why these shit networks will never go anywhere. It's all money laundering. 139k viewers should NOT make you a $2 mil a year salary and prime time spot on ANY network.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden
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Now you see just how easy it is for us to control the narrative.

Posted by: The pharmaceutical industry at May 09, 2023 03:45 PM (sh1GZ)

107 The Bud Cummins News Channel.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 09, 2023 03:45 PM (1Btyh)

108 boy, Andy McCarthy wants Trump gone

like now
Posted by: REDACTED at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (us2H3)

Well, of course. Which pleases me, because nothing quite guarantees Trump being the GOP nominee as shabby guy scum like McCarthy opposing him.

Posted by: trev006 at May 09, 2023 03:45 PM (78UcJ)

109
Yes they did - cut and move to streaming. Ace (and now Twitter) is all the news you need...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2023 03:42 PM (exHjb)



Streaming in rural areas isn't so easy. Unless you can afford to give Musk $250 a month for his shit, satellite internet isn't much cheaper and largely blows. Also, get the olds to learn and use the internet? Tall order, sir.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 03:45 PM (Zz0t1)

110 As soon as all money is digitized, confiscation will be easy- peasey…

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2023 03:46 PM (PCK5/)

111 Die faster Murdoch company and Tranheuser Busch.

On the pronouns. One person at google meetings I'm in has added the (he-him) after his name. I find it distracting and it just looks dumb to me.

Posted by: PaleRider at May 09, 2023 03:46 PM (3cGpq)

112 I think I saw her say that on a news interview and they had to cut to commercial because E Jean's comments were beginning to out her as a lunatic.

She started hitting on the flamboyantly homosexual interviewer, after saying rape is kind of sexy and they just couldn't wait to get her off camera.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2023 03:46 PM (0hOvj)

113 Rich people pour money into the media, they don't care how many watch or read. It's their propaganda machine. Political magazines can't survive without sugar daddy money. We all know NR sucks and have lost tons of readers in recent years. Do they care? Nope. Does the Bullwark care? Nope. Who watches CNN? No one. They should have fizzled into the thin air long ago, but here they are. Vice is being brought back from the dead. Is it because people want to read Vice? Nope. It's because the propaganda needs to be out there, and the more of it, the easier it is to control the population.

Tyranny plays the long game. Fox doesn't give a shit who leaves them. Go woke go broke doesn't work. Almost no one truly goes broke. There are enough idiots in America to prop up stupidity on the consumer side, while the richie riches keep the machinery running. The end goal is for the entire culture = monolithic. Whatever it costs to get there, they will get there.

If you want to boycott, fine. But if you want to beat tyranny, better come up with a better strategy.

Posted by: Dr Pepper at May 09, 2023 03:46 PM (/DTlP)

114 Fox was all Neocon all the time in the Bush years, yes?

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2023 03:43 PM (PCK5/)

And most of those neocons are reverting to their origins, which is simple leftism.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 03:46 PM (ZCCyW)

115 At least ninety percent of the US adult population is unfit to serve on a jury.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 09, 2023 03:42 PM (3vCGB)

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AI ChatBot ShainGPT rates this as "mostly true."

Posted by: ShainS at May 09, 2023 03:46 PM (jDtMq)

116 In a DC or NYC court, Trump and anyone associated with him will be found guilty of anything.

Posted by: Monetc at May 09, 2023 03:47 PM (OalnH)

117 I'm still amazed Fox offered zero public explanation for why Tucker was fired. How did they think that would ever fly?

One would think shareholders have a case against the board of directors for violation of fiduciary obligations.

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at May 09, 2023 03:44 PM


There are all sorts of things contained in the kind of 200+ page contract that tucker signed with fox. Neither party is at liberty to discuss anything about the situation without getting the snot sued out of them for breach of contract.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 09, 2023 03:47 PM (ncXxy)

118 "6 years of fine-toothed-combs and all they have is some nutjob claiming he raped her in a department store." - Former Virginian

It remains pretty amazing, doesn't it? A brash queens real estate tycoon much of whose business involved the most corrupt aspects of local government (building) and the most corrupt aspects of the hospitality industry (gambling) appears to have actually not broken any laws - nor cheated on his taxes.

Meanwhile, the drooling sub-mediocrities (of both parties) in the Beltway at this point are awash in criminal and non-criminal/outrageous/improper corruption, so brazen that even in a country without a real press, anyone can see it.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 09, 2023 03:47 PM (OTzUX)

119 Actually, he was found not liable of rape of the liar.
He was found liable for the lesser included of sexual assault of the liar.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2023 03:37 PM (exHjb)
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That's pretty much how I figured they'd split it down the middle.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 09, 2023 03:47 PM (YIVH2)

120 Are we being unreasonable, demanding that corporations that want our business actually respect our wishes and at least appear to respect us...?

Yeah. At a minimum they could give me a towel to so I can clean myself after they bone me in the ass. Is that asking too much? And they can't even do that. Tucker was the last straw with respect to Fox - that is a decent fellow that spoke honestly and Fox couldn't stand that - F' Fox. As for all the other butt fuckery media, F' you too.

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 09, 2023 03:47 PM (iGfKR)

121 114 And most of those neocons are reverting to their origins, which is simple leftism.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 03:46 PM (ZCCyW)

=========

"You misspelled conservatism, hobbit."
-Allahpundit

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:47 PM (LvTSG)

122 114 Fox was all Neocon all the time in the Bush years, yes?

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2023 03:43 PM (PCK5/)

And most of those neocons are reverting to their origins, which is simple leftism.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 03:46 PM (ZCCyW)

Dammit, now we are going to have trolls tossing 'Jews' around everywhere again!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 09, 2023 03:47 PM (zZu0s)

123 That's mine.. I'm on sling and can't find a way to stop recording.. It just lets me delete it after it's recorded
Posted by: It's me donna at May 09, 2023 03:42 PM (bs+z0)

"Scroll to the bottom of the page to access your upcoming Scheduled Recordings. Your scheduled recordings will appear chronologically. To cancel a recording, click on the title image and select Cancel Recording." (from Google)

Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2023 03:47 PM (exHjb)

124 Someday I'll wish upon a star
And wake up where the clouds are far behind me
Where troubles melt like lemon drops
Away above the chimney tops
That's where you'll find me

Posted by: Brain Kilmeade at May 09, 2023 03:48 PM (KVGVf)

125 Trump has responded saying he has no idea who this woman is....

Posted by: It's me donna at May 09, 2023 03:48 PM (bs+z0)

126 Andy McCarthy wants Trump gone

like now
==
I firmly believe that a Manhattan Jury should decide for the whole country whether Trump should or should not be able to run for president.

Posted by: Its just so representative of the national gestalt!!! at May 09, 2023 03:48 PM (sh1GZ)

127 122 Dammit, now we are going to have trolls tossing 'Jews' around everywhere again!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 09, 2023 03:47 PM (zZu0s)

========

Style guide says we use, "Jooooos!!!!".

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:48 PM (LvTSG)

128 Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2023 03:47 PM (exHjb)

Thanks

Posted by: It's me donna at May 09, 2023 03:48 PM (bs+z0)

129 I thought neocon was a dog whistle. We were yelled at about it.

Posted by: NCKate at May 09, 2023 03:48 PM (d5Qya)

130 "The FOX brand."

Uh huh. Pretty sure it's circling the bowl with the other turds.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2023 03:48 PM (Q4IgG)

131 75 Which makes me wonder about the intelligence of the people who make the decisions at Fox. They are monumentally out of touch, and it is distinctly possible that when they gamed out his firing they thought that America would shrug its shoulders and soldier on without a peep.

And that is amazing!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 03:38 PM (ZCCyW)

These are the people who employed Shep Smith.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (z/ifB)


They are people who want to be invited to all the good parties in NYC, Georgetown, and Beverly Hills. Who want to go to a play, opera, or ballet and not be shunned by everyone. Who want to keep their country club memberships or become members at the most exclusive clubs.

Posted by: Gref at May 09, 2023 03:48 PM (AMIL/)

132 I'm ready.

Posted by: Jeb 2024 at May 09, 2023 03:48 PM (OalnH)

133 Time to bring back the No Spin Zone! Be sure to checkout my store for more "No Spin Zone" gear!

Posted by: bill O'Reilly at May 09, 2023 03:49 PM (6hvzW)

134 128 Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2023 03:47 PM (exHjb)

Thanks
Posted by: It's me donna at May 09, 2023 03:48 PM (bs+z0)

No problem - happy to support the continuing drop in Fox numbers...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2023 03:49 PM (exHjb)

135 Their appeal is becoming more selective. It's OK, Boston isn't a big college town.

Posted by: a.moron at May 09, 2023 03:49 PM (tu3iY)

136 At least ninety percent of the US adult population is unfit to serve on a jury.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 09, 2023 03:42 PM (3vCGB)
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Heh. Found out about an hour ago that my boss was selected to serve on a criminal trial.

He's one of the few folks who can be expected to serve well.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 09, 2023 03:49 PM (YIVH2)

137 Fox doesn't care, they got the Leftists Award getting rid of Tucker.

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2023 03:49 PM (xhxe8)

138 Now where will Trey Gowdy, Lady Lindsey, and Newt go to lie to us.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 09, 2023 03:49 PM (N5C4b)

139 Streaming in rural areas isn't so easy. Unless you can afford to give Musk $250 a month for his shit, satellite internet isn't much cheaper and largely blows. Also, get the olds to learn and use the internet? Tall order, sir.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 03:45 PM (Zz0t1)


Surely anywhere that gets cable can get cable internet.

Posted by: Kathryn Murdoch at May 09, 2023 03:49 PM (aD39U)

140 Style guide says we use, "Jooooos!!!!".
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:48 PM (LvTSG)

I thought that was if we were doing a bit as Palestinians?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 09, 2023 03:49 PM (zZu0s)

141 My take is that most people are like myself, esp Trump voters

I always hated NYC people with a passion

now, I hate them even more

they are scum

Posted by: REDACTED at May 09, 2023 03:50 PM (us2H3)

142 Maybe after his failed presidential bid Sen. Tim Scott can be lured to fill the TC slot at Fox. It would be a perfect fit.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 09, 2023 03:50 PM (KSNKu)

143 140 Style guide says we use, "Jooooos!!!!".
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:48 PM (LvTSG)

I thought that was if we were doing a bit as Palestinians?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 09, 2023 03:49 PM (zZu0s)

=======

That just how I see CBD use it. Unless it's a Jewish-person only thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:50 PM (LvTSG)

144 122

Dammit, now we are going to have trolls tossing 'Jews' around everywhere again!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 09, 2023 03:47 PM (zZu0s)

Jew-tossing is considered rather declasse here at AoS…

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2023 03:50 PM (PCK5/)

145
She started hitting on the flamboyantly homosexual interviewer, after saying rape is kind of sexy and they just couldn't wait to get her off camera.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2023 03:46 PM (0hOvj)



I think she was going all Kathy Griffin on Gloria Vanderbilt Jr. and they had to bail before it got too uncomfortable for him AND the network.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 03:50 PM (Zz0t1)

146 The other thing that cracks me up. They're clamoring about a couple hundred thousand viewers.

LOL.
Nashville ginger Ashleigh Burton gets about 100k views on her movie reactions twice a week, and she is just a millennial with a cat watching older movies she had never seen.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 09, 2023 03:50 PM (ufFY8)

147 You ever rub 2 hot dogs together?

It’s exciting!

Posted by: Chris Hayes at May 09, 2023 03:51 PM (1huWu)

148 142 Maybe after his failed presidential bid Sen. Tim Scott can be lured to fill the TC slot at Fox. It would be a perfect fit.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 09, 2023 03:50 PM (KSNKu)

======

I had completely forgotten that he had announced.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:51 PM (LvTSG)

149 There are enough idiots in America to prop up stupidity on the consumer side, while the richie riches keep the machinery running.

Posted by: Dr Pepper at May 09, 2023 03:46 PM (/DTlP)

While this describes the last thirty years, at minimum, it's no longer viable. Interest rates can't even be adjusted to address the stagflation, banks are failing, Western governments are locked into a ruinously expensive war, the replacement immigrants have zero actual loyalty to their cabal benefactors, and half of the country wants to kill the tribal oligarchs oppressing them. The persecution of Donald Trump, who is easily the best person to run for President since the Civil War, is a symptom of this collapse.

The converged Christ-hating tyranny is being crushed under its own weight. You can take some minor solace from that.

Posted by: trev006 at May 09, 2023 03:51 PM (78UcJ)

150 It remains pretty amazing, doesn't it? A brash queens real estate tycoon much of whose business involved the most corrupt aspects of local government (building) and the most corrupt aspects of the hospitality industry (gambling) appears to have actually not broken any laws - nor cheated on his taxes.

Meanwhile, the drooling sub-mediocrities (of both parties) in the Beltway at this point are awash in criminal and non-criminal/outrageous/improper corruption, so brazen that even in a country without a real press, anyone can see it.
==
You only see stuff like this in the Bible. Its literally so absurd its beyond impossible. That's where we are. Congrats. You get to see it go down in real time. Whoopee!

Posted by: Its not an accident, its not a 20 years series of unfortunate events at May 09, 2023 03:51 PM (sh1GZ)

151 138 Now where will Trey Gowdy, Lady Lindsey, and Newt go to lie to us.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 09, 2023 03:49 PM (N5C4b)

Those three would make a perfect Fox-type conservative counter to THE VIEW. Maybe OAN?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 09, 2023 03:51 PM (KSNKu)

152 Time to bring back the No Spin Zone! Be sure to checkout my store for more "No Spin Zone" gear!
Posted by: bill O'Reilly at May 09, 2023 03:49 PM (6hvzW)
........

Keep it pithy!

Posted by: wth at May 09, 2023 03:51 PM (v0R5T)

153 Jew-tossing is considered rather declasse here at AoS…
Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2023 03:50 PM (PCK5/)

Can we hit some sort of daily double if we have Jewish Midgets?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 09, 2023 03:51 PM (zZu0s)

154
On the pronouns. One person at google meetings I'm in has added the (he-him) after his name. I find it distracting and it just looks dumb to me.
Posted by: PaleRider



I have one customer who's a broadcast engineer at a TV station in a VERY commie city which shall go nameless. He has They/Them plastered on his email signature line. It's taken a positively herculean effort to keep my pie-hole shut and stick to business every time I do some work for him.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 09, 2023 03:51 PM (n+4am)

155 129 I thought neocon was a dog whistle. We were yelled at about it.
Posted by: NCKate at May 09, 2023 03:48 PM (d5Qya)


I did not get the memo… apologies.

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2023 03:51 PM (PCK5/)

156 I've found Fox is pretty much the Daily Mail about 1 day behind.

Posted by: pahound at May 09, 2023 03:52 PM (YEjJg)

157 If you want to boycott, fine. But if you want to beat tyranny, better come up with a better strategy.

Posted by: Dr Pepper at May 09, 2023 03:46 PM (/DTlP)

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There has been, is, and always will be only one strategy that defeats tyranny -- and we all know it.

The question is: how bad does it have to get before that strategy is finally employed? And as things stand now, apparently, much much worse ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 09, 2023 03:52 PM (jDtMq)

158 CBD, I think it was "internal" imagery from the terminator's system giving him those options, from which he chose "f**k off a**hole". But yes, excellent. Movie managed to build a vibe/mood of utter inexorable menace from the machine. With just the right seasoning of humor.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 09, 2023 03:52 PM (OTzUX)

159 Maybe after his failed presidential bid Sen. Tim Scott can be lured to fill the TC slot at Fox. It would be a perfect fit.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 09, 2023 03:50 PM (KSNKu)



We do need a few more tokens at the network......

Posted by: Ruprecht Murdoch at May 09, 2023 03:52 PM (Zz0t1)

160 I think part of this goes to show how out of touch TV execs geniuses in general. Put aside the political part of this. The geniuses still think there's a "Fox Brand" as if it's 1995 or some shit. Brand loyalty is no longer a thing. People have an infinite number of choices for everything. 1000 beers are available, who gives a fuck about Bud Light? a gazillion sources of news is available online. Who gives a fuck about Fox? It's these giant institutions that thing they're too big to fail cuz reasons. Nah. One step that offends, and you're history.

Posted by: Montec at May 09, 2023 03:52 PM (OalnH)

161 But we still have Hannity with Lindsay Graham and Austin goolsbie!!!!!!!

Posted by: Avi at May 09, 2023 03:53 PM (k1oeH)

162 148 142 Maybe after his failed presidential bid Sen. Tim Scott can be lured to fill the TC slot at Fox. It would be a perfect fit.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 09, 2023 03:50 PM (KSNKu)

======

I had completely forgotten that he had announced.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:51 PM (LvTSG)

It was not memorable, even for a South Carolinian.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 09, 2023 03:53 PM (KSNKu)

163 Steiner! He will come!

Posted by: Rupert Murdock at May 09, 2023 03:53 PM (OUiUM)

164 It's in NYC after all and it's in the entertainment world and union jobs. How many conservatives are there that could possibly exist that fall into all those 3 categories?
Posted by: Monetc at May 09, 2023 03:40 PM (OalnH)

Yup. It's NYC. A city full of little leftist tyrants.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 09, 2023 03:53 PM (BdMk6)

165 Oh...I didnt know they came in rotten as well!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 09, 2023 03:53 PM (8C1eU)

166 Jerry Rivers says Meatball can bring this up in a debate in an effective manner

Jerry must really hate Meatball

Posted by: REDACTED at May 09, 2023 03:53 PM (us2H3)

167 Streaming in rural areas isn't so easy.

Starlink is about $120/month. I think Elon charges a one time $99 for the equip setup.

Posted by: free tibet at May 09, 2023 03:53 PM (iNp3L)

168 We also have the estimable Laura Ingraham.. as appealing as a cheese grater..

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2023 03:54 PM (PCK5/)

169 Tonight on The Five - Judge Jeanine Pirro yells at someone with her gravely voice, Dana Perino talks about her dog, and Jesse Watters attempts to figure out why their ratings are in the crapper.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 09, 2023 03:54 PM (N5C4b)

170 "We can remain unreasonable longer than you can remain solvent."
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There is no reason that I need to spend a dime on cable television. None. Nor do I need any of the products that sponsor your content.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 09, 2023 03:54 PM (YIVH2)

171
Trump has to pay that crazy bitch 5 million who accused him of rape in the 80s?

You cannot get a fair jury in New York State.

Posted by: Frank Barone at May 09, 2023 03:54 PM (+oR7L)

172 160 I think part of this goes to show how out of touch TV execs geniuses in general. Put aside the political part of this. The geniuses still think there's a "Fox Brand" as if it's 1995 or some shit. Brand loyalty is no longer a thing. People have an infinite number of choices for everything. 1000 beers are available, who gives a fuck about Bud Light? a gazillion sources of news is available online. Who gives a fuck about Fox? It's these giant institutions that thing they're too big to fail cuz reasons. Nah. One step that offends, and you're history.
Posted by: Montec at May 09, 2023 03:52 PM (OalnH)

Also, people like to feel part of a collective cause against a powerful institution, and boycotting Fox over what they did to Tucker is perfect for that.

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at May 09, 2023 03:54 PM (V6W16)

173 >Demo Ratings In Tucker's Old Slot? 90,000

Anyone else get the feeling that this is according to plan? Isn't it a bit odd that the two scalps claimed by 'conservatives' are Fox and AB, two orgs supposedly more Conservative leaning?

Can't help feeling that this is us being maneuvered into shooting ourselves in the foot.

Posted by: PoliticalMcGuffin at May 09, 2023 03:54 PM (md5vd)

174 Again, as I have relayed, I worked at FOX News for a number of years and the vast overwhelming majority of the people who work at FOX are as liberal and out there as AOC, even the broadcast engineering department which is typically not the norm.
Posted by: Thomas Bender


It's almost as if having headquarters in NYC would cause your organization to have a particular demographic or sompin'...

Posted by: weft-cut loop at May 09, 2023 03:55 PM (jzzG8)

175 I did not get the memo… apologies.
Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2023 03:51 PM (PCK5/)
.......

That's because you're never at your desk, slacker.

Posted by: AoS HR Dept. at May 09, 2023 03:55 PM (v0R5T)

176 18 yay. They're abandoning Fox.

But why are they switching to homoerotic programming like Chris Hayes on MSNBC?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 03:33 PM (Zz0t1)

They’re not. He just looks better by comparison now.

Posted by: Moonbeam at May 09, 2023 03:55 PM (rbKZ6)

177
Dammit, now we are going to have trolls tossing 'Jews' around everywhere again!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 09, 2023 03:47 PM (zZu0s)

Zero Hedge?

Well, If the *** mother****** Isreahelli bankers can't ******* stand moron critique they shouldn't be here f******* around with their big money *********!!!!


Posted by: Auspex at May 09, 2023 03:56 PM (j4U/Z)

178
Maybe after his failed presidential bid Sen. Tim Scott can be lured to fill the TC slot at Fox. It would be a perfect fit.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 09, 2023 03:50 PM (KSNKu)

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I had completely forgotten that he had announced.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures



I had completely forgotten that he even existed.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 09, 2023 03:56 PM (n+4am)

179 I had to go look

Possible Response:

Yes/No
Or what?
Go Away
Please come back later
Fuck you, Asshole
Fuck you

https://ytube.io/3eBV

Posted by: Kathryn Murdoch at May 09, 2023 03:56 PM (aD39U)

180 Tanned. Rested. Ready!

Put me in, Coach Murdoch!

Posted by: Brian "Spud" Stelter at May 09, 2023 03:56 PM (a3Q+t)

181 NCKate you're correct, but as seems to happen, things have evolved, so to speak. Not really worth bringing any actual background or factoids to the subject.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 09, 2023 03:57 PM (OTzUX)

182 Tonight on The Five - Judge Jeanine Pirro yells at someone with her gravely voice, Dana Perino talks about her dog, and Jesse Watters attempts to figure out why their ratings are in the crapper.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 09, 2023 03:54 PM (N5C4b)
.........

and Juan Williams stares at everyone with a confused look on his face.

Posted by: wth at May 09, 2023 03:57 PM (v0R5T)

183 dammit

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 09, 2023 03:57 PM (aD39U)

184 *faints*

He's so uncouth!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:32 PM (LvTSG)

Pronouns in Twatter bio: 99% probability of being pedophile.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2023 03:57 PM (tkR6S)

185 >>>Now where will Trey Gowdy, Lady Lindsey, and Newt go to lie to us.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 09, 2023 03:49 PM (N5C4b)

>You forgot the architect, Karl Rove and his grease board. Have you even heard of Milton Friedman, Taylor Swift, you moron?

Posted by: Brain Kilmeade at May 09, 2023 03:57 PM (KVGVf)

186 173 >Demo Ratings In Tucker's Old Slot? 90,000

Anyone else get the feeling that this is according to plan? Isn't it a bit odd that the two scalps claimed by 'conservatives' are Fox and AB, two orgs supposedly more Conservative leaning?

Can't help feeling that this is us being maneuvered into shooting ourselves in the foot.
Posted by: PoliticalMcGuffin at May 09, 2023 03:54 PM (md5vd)

This isn't so much "scalp-claiming" as the Left marching through more institutions. Viewers didn't fire Tucker, Fox did.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 09, 2023 03:57 PM (eYoxG)

187 And most of those neocons are reverting to their origins, which is simple leftism.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 03:46 PM (ZCCyW)

Does the average lower-class Jew buy into any of the sick insanity offered by their elites? I suspect the Orthodox in New York, among many others, are realizing how bad things could get.

And yet it doesn't matter. Minorities worldwide, from Tamil to Tutsi, frequently pay for the wickedness of "their" elites. Soros has about as much loyalty to the broader Jewish nation as he did when he was selling their confiscated property, and will likely die comfortably in his bed. Yet the professional upper-class doctors and lawyers back the oligarchs to the hilt. Well, it wouldn't be the first time the chosen people chose the golden calf.

Posted by: trev006 at May 09, 2023 03:57 PM (78UcJ)

188 According to viewing figures produced by Adweek, a trade publication, for the evening of May 5, Carlson's former 8 p.m. ET slot attracted an audience of 90,000, while at the same time MSNBC's All In with Chris Hayes was seen by 145,000, among viewers aged 25-54.
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That's not losing.

That's losing a *lot*

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 03:57 PM (O4oKn)

189 Tim Scott
I had completely forgotten that he had announced.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures
=
I had completely forgotten that he even existed.
==
Me too. *giggles*
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Posted by: Tim Scott's wife at May 09, 2023 03:58 PM (sh1GZ)

190 I doubt the most popular conservative hosts are going to put up with their low numbers.
Something is going to give and I wouldn't be surprised if there is a major overhaul with executives etc.
Megyn Kelly hinted that the conservative hosts are on her side and others on social media have hinted these hosts are furious with what has happened.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 09, 2023 03:58 PM (NpAcC)

191 and Juan Williams stares at everyone with a confused look on his face.
Posted by: wth at May 09, 2023 03:57 PM (v0R5T)


He ain't no Bob Beckel.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 09, 2023 03:58 PM (DRSnL)

192 pretty sure Jesus was found guilty

of something

Posted by: REDACTED at May 09, 2023 03:58 PM (us2H3)

193 I had completely forgotten that he even existed.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 09, 2023 03:56 PM (n+4am)

Tim Scott? Never heard of him.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at May 09, 2023 03:58 PM (ufFY8)

194 The converged Christ-hating tyranny is being crushed under its own weight. You can take some minor solace from that.
Posted by: trev006 at May 09, 2023 03:51 PM (78UcJ)
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Show me the evidence. The culture is gone. Leftism has taken over everything but SCOTUS and we are two justices away from losing that. Even when we get rulings like Bruen and Dobbs, the left goes apeshit and defies them.

This attitude of - "oh, just wait until the people see how bad it is" never works. I am sick of the passivity on our side.

Posted by: Dr Pepper at May 09, 2023 03:58 PM (/DTlP)

195 "We can remain unreasonable longer than you can remain solvent."
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I'll drink to that, Ace.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 03:58 PM (O4oKn)

196 @52 They are monumentally out of touch, and it is distinctly possible that when they gamed out his firing they thought that America would shrug its shoulders and soldier on without a peep.

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I think that's part of the point Tucker was making in his post-firing monologue. The people who run the news organizations have no idea what matters to the average person in the street. They're completely disconnected from it all.

Posted by: junior at May 09, 2023 03:58 PM (3DI1b)

197 We also have the estimable Laura Ingraham.. as appealing as a cheese grater..
Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2023 03:54 PM (PCK5/)
........

I find her banter with Sean at the end of his show particularly nauseating.

Posted by: wth at May 09, 2023 03:59 PM (v0R5T)

198 What, you guys want me to go back to cotton?

Congress suits me better.

Posted by: Tim Scott, hero at May 09, 2023 03:59 PM (OTzUX)

199 188 That's not losing.

That's losing a *lot*
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 03:57 PM (O4oKn)

=========

And Bud Light sales have only gone down by 36%.

Bud Light is winning in comparison.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 03:59 PM (LvTSG)

200 I did not get the memo… apologies.
Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2023 03:51 PM (PCK5/)
.......

That's because you're never at your desk, slacker.
Posted by: AoS HR Dept. at May 09, 2023 03:55 PM


Being on my Help Desk isn't a desk job. Didn't you get my memo?

Posted by: The Barrel at May 09, 2023 03:59 PM (a3Q+t)

201 @MattGertz
NEW FOXLEAKS: In a behind-the-scenes video obtained by Media Matters, Tucker Carlson discusses telling a female Fox executive that the network is besieged by liberals within and that Roger Ailes "would never put up with this shit."

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Maybe he wouldn't have, but he isn't there, is he?

The owners of News Corp are getting what they wanted, and it begins with a "P."
Not profits, but purity.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 03:59 PM (O4oKn)

202 Also, f*ck Fox Business.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 09, 2023 04:00 PM (N5C4b)

203 No woman who was really raped, whether it was 3 hours or 30 years earlier. would have laughed about it with Anderson Cooper and claimed it was sexy or whatever. What an odious thing, she is.

Posted by: EveR at May 09, 2023 04:00 PM (MUpk6)

204 I doubt the most popular conservative hosts are going to put up with their low numbers.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 09, 2023 03:58 PM (NpAcC)

I'll take that action. Sean Hannity would never survive losing elite backing. He might keep his radio show, but with a diminished audience and VASTLY diminished income. Most other Fox stars are even less financially secure.

Posted by: trev006 at May 09, 2023 04:00 PM (78UcJ)

205 Daddy Rupert can french kiss my hairy ass, then I will teabag his boys.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 09, 2023 04:00 PM (pohLc)

206 Dammit, now we are going to have trolls tossing 'Jews' around everywhere again!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 09, 2023 03:47 PM (zZu0s)

Zero Hedge?


The comments on the story of Netanyuhu facing the threat of a color revolution on ZH was fascinating.

Here was a text book example of the issue not being "The Jews" and being "The Left/Junta/WEF" and a bunch of commenters didn't know how to react...

Though in fairness ZH does have a couple of good commenters. They just get buried in the trolls...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2023 04:00 PM (lc5cP)

207 The funny part is that the lack of a Tucker lead in is killing Hannity too.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 09, 2023 04:00 PM (aD39U)

208 pretty sure Jesus was found guilty

Actually, he wasn't. He was just mob fodder. Both of the Roman authorities he was sent to said "eh, this guy hasn't done anything wrong." They just didn't want the Jews to riot... again. And eh what's one odd spiritual leader compared to a peaceful job as governor?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2023 04:00 PM (0hOvj)

209 You ever rub 2 hot dogs together?
It’s exciting!
Posted by: Chris Hayes at May 09, 2023 03:51 PM (1huWu)

Let's Play Tummy Sticks!

Posted by: Obese Guy In Ladies Room at May 09, 2023 04:01 PM (MZjWj)

210 Laura Ingraham was hawt back in the 90s.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 09, 2023 04:01 PM (1Btyh)

211 The funny part is that the lack of a Tucker lead in is killing Hannity too.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 09, 2023 04:00 PM (aD39U)



You're a bad American!

- - - Sean Hamneggity

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 04:01 PM (Zz0t1)

212
ut why are they switching to homoerotic programming like Chris Hayes on MSNBC?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 03:33 PM (Zz0t1)

They’re not. He just looks better by comparison now.
Posted by: Moonbeam

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It's simply the death -- well, the wished-for death -- of ALL corporate media. I dearly hope the next Republican White House (also in wished-for status) accredits indie journalists.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 09, 2023 04:01 PM (lCaJd)

213 Fox News' Demo Ratings In Tucker's Old Slot? 90,000

--

Perspective:

That's not even a full mid- to top-tier SEC team football stadium.

Nationwide.

Posted by: 263K Civics sold, fewer than 150K non-luxury EVs sold. No one wants EVs. at May 09, 2023 04:01 PM (XTk1T)

214 What is this 'Fox News' you speak of?

Posted by: Tonypete at May 09, 2023 04:02 PM (qoGsy)

215 201
Maybe he wouldn't have, but he isn't there, is he?

The owners of News Corp are getting what they wanted, and it begins with a "P."
Not profits, but purity.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 03:59 PM (O4oKn)

That is EXACTLY the point of all of what is going on.. we always look to the profit motive, but that is a conservative mindset.. which does not motivate them.

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2023 04:02 PM (PCK5/)

216 Pretty sure our fake president denied sexually assaulting a woman too

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2023 04:02 PM (q1fcv)

217 Oh that's different, he actually did assault her

Posted by: ... at May 09, 2023 04:02 PM (q1fcv)

218 145- I think she was going all Kathy Griffin on Gloria Vanderbilt Jr. and they had to bail before it got too uncomfortable for him AND the network.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 03:50 PM

That’s my recollection as well but for some reason I seem to have Alison Camerotta in the mix. Maybe she was interviewed on more than one show but she definitely said it on CNN.

Posted by: Moonbeam at May 09, 2023 04:03 PM (rbKZ6)

219 The owners of News Corp are getting what they wanted, and it begins with a "P."
Not profits, but purity.

--

P is for Purge

The RESTRICT Act is for us lower-level nobodies.

Posted by: 263K Civics sold, fewer than 150K non-luxury EVs sold. No one wants EVs. at May 09, 2023 04:03 PM (XTk1T)

220 ... The geniuses still think there's a "Fox Brand" as if it's 1995 or some shit. Brand loyalty is no longer a thing. ...
Posted by: Montec at May 09, 2023 03:52 PM (OalnH)
++++
Brand loyalty is a thing, because brand loyalty is easy. Find something you like, and just keep getting it time after time because it's one fewer damn thing to think about.

Why buy Colgate instead of Crest? "Why not?! It's what I always get!" That inertia is what keeps brands alive, and it's damned hard to change. You usually need a disruptive environment to change brand loyalties. New house, new spouse, new baby. Those are the best, which is why marketeers spend the wealth of nations on data to find out when those things happen.

But there is another way: piss off the customer. Then purchasing habits can shift, too, and the loyalty gets transferred to a *different* brand. The default brand habits then work against you, and you have to pay a fortune on customer (re)acquisition. This doesn't apply in a market with no near substitutes (like the NFL), but it *does* apply in normal markets - like cheap beer and cheaper "news."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 04:03 PM (O4oKn)

221 Pretty sure our fake president denied sexually assaulting a woman too
Posted by: ... at May 09, 2023 04:02 PM (q1fcv)



He was never told of the accusation because he was shielded from it by a corrupt media. He never had to deny anything to anyone.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 04:03 PM (Zz0t1)

222 This attitude of - "oh, just wait until the people see how bad it is" never works. I am sick of the passivity on our side.

If you asked people in say...2003 what they would do if:

The government tried to mandate a gene therapy known to cause heath issues
The Democrats openly and blatantly stole an election
Trannies were grooming and groping kids

The answer wouldn't be "vote harder" or "bitch about it on an interest forum" and yes here we are.

Honestly the core problem here is the left took over or destroyed almost every conservative or even a-political organization to allow people to respond to these outrages in a coordinated fashion.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2023 04:03 PM (lc5cP)

223 I never did understand exactly what the term "neocon" was supposed to mean specifically. I still don't.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2023 04:03 PM (Keyt1)

224 Fox doesn't care, they got the Leftists Award getting rid of Tucker.
Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2023 03:49 PM (xhxe

Yup. They get to go to the hip, chic, and cool NYC parties now.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 09, 2023 04:04 PM (BdMk6)

225 Carlson's final show on Friday, April 21 attracted more than 2.6 million viewers
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And that no one knew was to be his last; and I'd guess wasn't his best general viewing night of the week.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 09, 2023 04:04 PM (Vwz3I)

226 The Romans didn't want the Jews to riot? Huh, like we've been "fundamentally" transformed...

Posted by: pahound at May 09, 2023 04:04 PM (YEjJg)

227 Willowed:


Question for the AoS legal team of Dewey, Cheatham & Howe:

what does >> found liable of sexual assault
mean, specifically

Posted by: DB - put a tiger in your tank at May 09, 2023 04:04 PM (geLO8)

228 pretty sure Jesus was found guilty

Actually, he wasn't. He was just mob fodder. Both of the Roman authorities he was sent to said "eh, this guy hasn't done anything wrong." They just didn't want the Jews to riot... again. And eh what's one odd spiritual leader compared to a peaceful job as governor?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2023 04:00 PM


Jesus did what he was sent to earth by his dad to do, die for the sins of man regardless of guilt or innocence in regards to Jewish or Roman law.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 09, 2023 04:04 PM (ncXxy)

229 Who the hell watches Hannity?

If I want to know the headlines on Hot Gas or NRO I can just go read them myself.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2023 04:04 PM (lc5cP)

230 Wait until you begin to understand that Fox News existed and was more valuable because FAUX NEWS!!!

Everything is an op.

Posted by: 263K Civics sold, fewer than 150K non-luxury EVs sold. No one wants EVs. at May 09, 2023 04:04 PM (XTk1T)

231
Yup. They get to go to the hip, chic, and cool NYC parties now.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 09, 2023 04:04 PM (BdMk6)



You asked for it........


https://youtu.be/ILaTgQBKRbE

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 04:05 PM (Zz0t1)

232 LOL Ed Morrissey acts like the sham not rape Carroll verdict will hurt Trump, it's going to make him hit 70% by the end of the month for the primary.

Posted by: UwU_Power at May 09, 2023 04:05 PM (YP2EJ)

233 Did not find him liable on the rape but on sexual harassment/abuse and libel.
Posted by: 7man at May 09, 2023 03:36 PM (qwO6y)

It'd be a real pity if some face-tatted MS13 Orc found E. Jean Carroll, and showed her what rape was really all about, wouldn't it?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2023 04:05 PM (tkR6S)

234 hey, lets give the MSM something to talk about instead of Comer's evidence

Posted by: REDACTED at May 09, 2023 04:06 PM (us2H3)

235 And by the way, the correct response to the E Jean Carroll shit, and all this lawfare against Trump in general, is for Red State AGs/DAs to start arresting Dem office holders.

And of course...they don't do shit.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2023 04:06 PM (lc5cP)

236 Did not find him liable on the rape but on sexual harassment/abuse and libel.
Posted by: 7man at May 09, 2023 03:36 PM (qwO6y)



And they put a gag order on Trump so he couldn't discuss anything about the case on social media......Yeah, it was a fair trial.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 04:06 PM (Zz0t1)

237 I never did understand exactly what the term "neocon" was supposed to mean specifically. I still don't.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2023 04:03 PM (Keyt1)


New conservatives, ie, former "Liberals", mostly because of anti-Soviet concerns. Allegedly hardline nationalist but social wet. Often homosexuals.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 09, 2023 04:06 PM (aD39U)

238 Who the hell watches Hannity?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2023 04:04 PM (lc5cP)


My mom.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 09, 2023 04:06 PM (DRSnL)

239 Actually, he wasn't. He was just mob fodder. Both of the Roman authorities he was sent to said "eh, this guy hasn't done anything wrong." They just didn't want the Jews to riot... again. And eh what's one odd spiritual leader compared to a peaceful job as governor?
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Well, I know he did the hand washing thing, but check me If I'm wrong, he had him scourged, and then when that wasn't enough he had a party of men take him up to the place of skulls, and those men crucified him. And he was the one that wrote INRI to be nailed to the cross, overseeing the proceeding. Little known fact. The guy who was responsible for his getting the govenor job, had just been executed by cesear like two years earlier. So Pilate was on shaky ground since his sponsor was unloyal to cesear. The pharisees threatened to denounce him to cesear as unloyal. That's why he was moved to kill Jesus, and the pharisees knew which buttons to push to make him jump.

Posted by: I'm not Dr. Scott Hahn or anything but at May 09, 2023 04:06 PM (sh1GZ)

240 Show me the evidence. The culture is gone.

This attitude of - "oh, just wait until the people see how bad it is" never works. I am sick of the passivity on our side.
Posted by: Dr Pepper at May 09, 2023 03:58 PM (/DTlP)

The American culture is hardly gone. If anything, the massive success of Donald Trump is why the all-out financial and legal assault by the New York oligarchy is coming down. I had worried that Trump would be jailed by the FBI during one of his court appearances, but thanks to Imran Khan that isn't likely anymore. From movies, to cable news, to social media: the increasing collapse of the globalist narrative is down to the American culture and nation.

Now, they absolutely dominate elite power! But the power currently on offer is Epsteinite fascism. It's not even popular with the left-wing base, outside a tiny minority of sexual degenerates. I'm not saying wait for an election (HAHAHAH) or be passive. I am saying that you have to know where the enemy is strong, and where they are weak.

Posted by: trev006 at May 09, 2023 04:06 PM (78UcJ)

241 90,000 is a lot of people, let's not lie. But for a mega news channel that used to lead the ratings and is now below MSNBC? Its catastrophic. I'd love to have 90,000 people buy my books. ACE would love to have 90,000 people log in per hour. You'd love to have 90,000 people each give you a dollar. Overall its a big number. But in terms of TV business, its abysmal.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2023 04:06 PM (0hOvj)

242
My mom.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 09, 2023 04:06 PM (DRSnL)



Heh. Self-own.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 04:07 PM (Zz0t1)

243 A civil jury in New York City has found President Donald Trump not guilty of raping E. Jean Carroll in a department store dressing room nearly three decades ago. The jury found Trump liable for forcibly touching, sexually abusing and battery of Carroll. They also found he defamed her.

Posted by: SMOD at May 09, 2023 04:07 PM (RHGPo)

244 207 The funny part is that the lack of a Tucker lead in is killing Hannity too.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 09, 2023 04:00 PM

Yes! It definitely seems like former viewers are definitely targeting the 8, 9 and 10 pm shows with the boycotts. Notice how much the audience count recovers at 11 pm.

Posted by: Moonbeam at May 09, 2023 04:07 PM (rbKZ6)

245 233 Did not find him liable on the rape but on sexual harassment/abuse and libel.
Posted by: 7man at May 09, 2023 03:36 PM (qwO6y)

so, they think she lied about the rape but not the touching ?

Posted by: REDACTED at May 09, 2023 04:07 PM (us2H3)

246 The Tucker leaks only damage Carlson with those who never watched him anyway. And it's not like these "leaks" are going to damage Carlson with major advertisers because those were chased off years ago.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at May 09, 2023 04:07 PM (2YtOq)

247 Question for the AoS legal team of Dewey, Cheatham & Howe:

what does >> found liable of sexual assault
mean, specifically

Posted by: DB - put a tiger in your tank at May 09, 2023 04:04 PM (geLO

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I believe now that staring too long at a woman is considered sexual assault.

Posted by: ShainS at May 09, 2023 04:07 PM (3NPRE)

248 LOL Ed Morrissey acts like the sham not rape Carroll verdict will hurt Trump, it's going to make him hit 70% by the end of the month for the primary.

**************************

Morrissey has to wear a strapon to compensate for his micro sized tainty bainty otherwise not even the male hookers he pays for will give him the time

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at May 09, 2023 04:07 PM (VTu1l)

249 I mean the “demo” audience.

Posted by: Moonbeam at May 09, 2023 04:08 PM (rbKZ6)

250 I wonder what evidence was present at Trump’s “rape” trial. If it was just a crazy bitch telling stories from 30 years ago, the justice system is completely broken.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 09, 2023 04:08 PM (1huWu)

251 What is this 'Fox News' you speak of?
Posted by: Tonypete at May 09, 2023 04:02 PM (qoGsy)
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Fox News was a corporation providing television news content to the United States from 1996 until approximately 2030. The exact end date of Fox News is unknown, as it corresponded with the general disruption of records associated with the widespread civil unrest and dissolution of that time.

Fox News built its market segment by being a center or center-right channel (according to the antiquated "Left/Right Political Dichotomy" - for more information, see The History of Western Politics, Chapter 12), achieving market differentiation against the center-left or left news channels. Fox News' differentiation started to decline by the 20-teens, as their news coverage moved to center or center-left, with only the commentary programs retaining the original alignment. The differentiation was erased when the controlling Murdoch family purged the right-wing commentators in 2023.

Posted by: Future History of American News, 3rd Edition at May 09, 2023 04:08 PM (O4oKn)

252 The jury found Trump liable for forcibly touching, sexually abusing and battery of Carroll. They also found he defamed her.
Posted by: SMOD at May 09, 2023 04:07 PM (RHGPo)



Huh. Amazing the evidence of this was still viable after all these years. Or was it ALL testimony and speculation........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 04:08 PM (Zz0t1)

253 If they give Aisha Hasnie and Lisa Boothe a topless weather report that might help.

Posted by: wth at May 09, 2023 04:08 PM (v0R5T)

254 232 LOL Ed Morrissey acts like the sham not rape Carroll verdict will hurt Trump, it's going to make him hit 70% by the end of the month for the primary.
Posted by: UwU_Power at May 09, 2023 04:05 PM (YP2EJ)

Ed is a self sucking cuck

Posted by: REDACTED at May 09, 2023 04:08 PM (us2H3)

255 LOL Ed Morrissey

Poppin' Fresh is doing a weekly show on Bearing Arms, n subscription only NRA leftist propaganda show. He's still a condescending asshole.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 09, 2023 04:08 PM (N5C4b)

256 I wonder what evidence was present at Trump’s “rape” trial. If it was just a crazy bitch telling stories from 30 years ago, the justice system is completely broken.

They had evidence that he wrote "I boof'd this bitch!" in her yearbook.

/s

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2023 04:08 PM (lc5cP)

257 I never did understand exactly what the term "neocon" was supposed to mean specifically. I still don't.

socially left but really into war, defense spending, and associated graft

Posted by: brak at May 09, 2023 04:08 PM (25k9m)

258 Next you'll be telling me that Trump tackled the gas station attendant in New Jersey so he could pump his own gas, because that's what a billionaire does.

And then he raped the attendant when he got out of line.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 09, 2023 04:09 PM (KVGVf)

259 Heh. Self-own.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 04:07 PM (Zz0t1)


LOL, I know. But it's true.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 09, 2023 04:09 PM (DRSnL)

260 The pharisees threatened to denounce him to cesear as unloyal. That's why he was moved to kill Jesus, and the pharisees knew which buttons to push to make him jump.
Posted by: I'm not Dr. Scott Hahn or anything but at May 09, 2023 04:06 PM (sh1GZ)

And while the death of Jesus was surprisingly temporary, the Second Temple was razed by the Romans before the population of Israel was alternatively massacred/ dispersed into slavery.

Posted by: trev006 at May 09, 2023 04:09 PM (78UcJ)

261 I propose the following hypothesis: Every country in the world is racist, and out of all of these racist countries, the U.S. is the least racist out of all of them

Posted by: SMOD at May 09, 2023 04:10 PM (RHGPo)

262 I love my pronouns.

Posted by: Santa Claus ho/ho/ho at May 09, 2023 04:10 PM (63Dwl)

263 Morrissey is a dipshit fatbody that no one gives a shit about.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 04:10 PM (Zz0t1)

264 Who the hell watches Hannity?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2023 04:04 PM (lc5cP)
.........

Abandoned storage locker bidders?

Posted by: wth at May 09, 2023 04:10 PM (v0R5T)

265 Posted by: wth at May 09, 2023 04:08 PM (v0R5T)

Not having a TV and having never watched Fox, I have no idea of who those women are-much less about the suitability of their breasts for morons to look at..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2023 04:10 PM (Keyt1)

266 Fox used to be a place where you could get an alternate take on news, one that differed from CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN et al.
It was the one thing of value they had.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at May 09, 2023 04:10 PM (jTmQV)

267
Ed is a self sucking cuck
Posted by: REDACTED at May 09, 2023 04:08 PM (us2H3)



*fistbump*

Posted by: Ron Jeremy at May 09, 2023 04:11 PM (Zz0t1)

268 socially left but really into war, defense spending, and associated graft
Posted by: brak at May 09, 2023 04:08 PM (25k9m)
++++
Yeah. The neocons were old-school, pro-war (or at least war-curious) liberals who were off-put by the Dems' lurch toward socialism and were looking for a refuge. They were admirably anticommunist, but not conservative. They found refuge in the firmly anti-Soviet Republican Party.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 04:11 PM (O4oKn)

269 You want a definition of sexual harassment? Hint: It's what ever she says it is, depending on the individuals involved, whether he is "icky" or rich, whether she is on her period, feels bitchy, you get the picture?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 09, 2023 04:11 PM (pohLc)

270 We report, you can fuck right off..

Posted by: Fox News at May 09, 2023 04:11 PM (aD39U)

271 232 LOL Ed Morrissey acts like the sham not rape Carroll verdict will hurt Trump, it's going to make him hit 70% by the end of the month for the primary.
Posted by: UwU_Power at May 09, 2023 04:05 PM (YP2EJ)

Yup. RDS could genuinely drop out saying that only the most faggoty donor slave would run against Trump under these circumstances.

He won't, of course.

Posted by: trev006 at May 09, 2023 04:11 PM (78UcJ)

272 socially left but really into war, defense spending, and associated graft

Yeah that does appear to be what it is. Basically its people who were center-left who became very zealous for war to protect them because they got scared by 9/11. Particularly people who are living in the northeast or especially New York City because that's the center of all reality.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2023 04:12 PM (0hOvj)

273 And while the death of Jesus was surprisingly temporary, the Second Temple was razed by the Romans before the population of Israel was alternatively massacred/ dispersed into slavery.

The funds for the Colosseum came from Roman looting of Jerusalem.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2023 04:12 PM (lc5cP)

274 Trump's accuser can't remember the year the alleged incident happened. How convenient. When have I seen this before?

NYS passed a law to eliminate the statute of limitations so this suit could proceed.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 09, 2023 04:12 PM (RqMSv)

275 Morrissey has to wear a strapon to compensate for his micro sized tainty bainty otherwise not even the male hookers he pays for will give him the time
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at May 09, 2023 04:07 PM (VTu1l)

I saw Tainty Bainty open for And And Fookin' And at the North Dublin Roller-Rama back in '89.

Tossers, the lot of 'em.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 09, 2023 04:12 PM (N3zMI)

276 Not having a TV and having never watched Fox, I have no idea of who those women are-much less about the suitability of their breasts for morons to look at..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2023 04:10 PM (Keyt1)
.......

Their faces are gorgeous so I'm guessing the breasts are too.

Posted by: wth at May 09, 2023 04:12 PM (v0R5T)

277 This brunette in short shorts is delighted that the catastrophic declines for both News Corp and Tranheuser-Busch appear to be far exceeding the worst-case scenarios that the executives of those firms ever considered:
https://is.gd/brLIVU

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 04:13 PM (O4oKn)

278 272 "socially left but really into war, defense spending, and associated graft"

Yeah that does appear to be what it is. Basically its people who were center-left who became very zealous for war to protect them because they got scared by 9/11. Particularly people who are living in the northeast or especially New York City because that's the center of all reality.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2023 04:12 PM (0hOvj)

That's kind of a second generation of neocons. First generation was about the Cold War. Leftists who weren't pro-USSR essentially.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 09, 2023 04:13 PM (eYoxG)

279 I’d look at unsuitable breasts too.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 09, 2023 04:13 PM (1huWu)

280 Huh? A slap fight with her labia?

She's nuts!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 03:45 PM (ZCCyW)

That explains the New Madrid earthquake. She'd have just discovered fapping about then.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2023 04:13 PM (tkR6S)

281 Their faces are gorgeous so I'm guessing the breasts are too.
Posted by: wth at May 09, 2023 04:12 PM (v0R5T)



Nipples like ripe strawberries..

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 09, 2023 04:13 PM (aD39U)

282 someone ask Ed who the fuck he wants as the nominee

so I can go out vote against them, twice

fuck that guy

Posted by: REDACTED at May 09, 2023 04:13 PM (us2H3)

283
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Suck it, Murdochs!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 09, 2023 04:13 PM (eodUi)

284 278

That's kind of a second generation of neocons. First generation was about the Cold War. Leftists who weren't pro-USSR essentially.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 09, 2023 04:13 PM (eYoxG)

Mensheviks??

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2023 04:13 PM (PCK5/)

285 I’d look at unsuitable breasts too.

Ok then

Posted by: Lena Dunham un-buttoning her shirt at May 09, 2023 04:13 PM (lc5cP)

286 The funds for the Colosseum came from Roman looting of Jerusalem.

Yeah, that's where Rome got almost all its money. They were self-supporting with agriculture, but weren't huge on trade. So they looted other nations for cash to buy stuff like wheat from Egypt. At least that's how I understand it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2023 04:14 PM (0hOvj)

287 So Pilate was on shaky ground since his sponsor was unloyal to cesear. The pharisees threatened to denounce him to cesear as unloyal. That's why he was moved to kill Jesus, and the pharisees knew which buttons to push to make him jump.
==
And why did he write INRI? Because, the jews mad a threat to claim he was refusing to act against a man claiming to be king - usurping Rome's authoritay. So, OF COURSE he insisted on labeling Jesus as the "King of the Jews", to counter any claim or subsequent rumor campaign by the jews that he was not defending cesear's authority. Pilot knew it was a shit show, but ultimately acted to secure his flank from a political attack. The pharisees didn't see it coming, but they overplayed their hand. Typical dipshits.

Posted by: I'm not Dr. Scott Hahn or anything but at May 09, 2023 04:14 PM (sh1GZ)

288 someone ask Ed who the fuck he wants as the nominee

Probably David French or Yeb!

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2023 04:14 PM (lc5cP)

289 LOL Ed Morrissey acts like the sham not rape Carroll verdict will hurt Trump, it's going to make him hit 70% by the end of the month for the primary.

Depends on who you're talking about. If Repubs only, then possibly, due to a rally-round-our-guy effect. If you're talking about the general, there is no way this doesn't hurt him.

It's almost as if that's how the Dems planned it.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2023 04:14 PM (eOEVl)

290 284 278

That's kind of a second generation of neocons. First generation was about the Cold War. Leftists who weren't pro-USSR essentially.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 09, 2023 04:13 PM (eYoxG)

Mensheviks??
Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2023 04:13 PM (PCK5/)

That's an interesting way of looking at it. Mensheviks had the social leftism(open borders, sex stuff, bug eating) but not the militancy I think.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 09, 2023 04:14 PM (eYoxG)

291 257 I never did understand exactly what the term "neocon" was supposed to mean specifically. I still don't.

socially left but really into war, defense spending, and associated graft
Posted by: brak at May 09, 2023 04:08 PM

The parents of Bill Kristol and Jonah Goldberg were prominent pioneers of the Neocon movement. Once you know that, their behavior since 2016 makes sense.

Posted by: Moonbeam at May 09, 2023 04:14 PM (rbKZ6)

292 278 Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 09, 2023 04:13 PM (eYoxG)

People forget it was the donkey party that was steeple chasing nuclear war like a mad man more often than the GOP.

At the end of the day the left are an evangelical Malthusian death cult and have been since the 1890s.

Why would a death cult be against war it liked, and their definition of "wars we like" is simply "led by donks."

Posted by: sven at May 09, 2023 04:14 PM (X0I7i)

293 Wasn't Trump a Democrat 30 years ago when the alleged rape occurred? That should have been his defense.

Posted by: Iris at May 09, 2023 04:15 PM (NaH5I)

294 NTers are very happy letting the leftist mob do their work for them

and they are foolish enough to think we are gonna vote for their guy

Posted by: REDACTED at May 09, 2023 04:15 PM (us2H3)

295 This TV owners vs. viewers stuff has been going on a long time. On my shelves is the book, 'How Sweet It Was', about early TV; and one takeaway from it, for me, was how owners of the networks, NYC/East Coast people, canceled top-rated shows!
Some shows went on to great success in syndication and independent markets; but the owners/management would cancel very successful programs for being too lowbrow or embarrassing, all the time. They were obsessed with their perceived social circles, and routinely shit-canned popular product over their own concerns about their image in their extremely limited social circles.

Posted by: LenNeal at May 09, 2023 04:15 PM (pqfA/)

296 Man, Boy, Donkey. Did none at Fox read Aesop?

Posted by: scampydog at May 09, 2023 04:15 PM (2bFN5)

297 Tesla CEO Elon Musk traveled to Texas on Monday to celebrate the groundbreaking of the company’s new lithium refinery that the electric vehicle maker hopes will give the company more control over its supply chain. Musk said the facility, which will be one of the largest of its kind in the world, will produce lithium for "about a million vehicles" and have more lithium refining capacity than "the rest of North American refining capacity combined."

Posted by: SMOD at May 09, 2023 04:15 PM (RHGPo)

298 wth: "I find her banter with Sean at the end of his show particularly nauseating."

They still do that? I thought it forced and phony the second time they did it. How many years ago was that?

I mean it was just as bad as QB Hannity throwing his football around. I never understood how that was supposed to lend gravitas, perspective, or masculinity to the show either. And that was several wars ago.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 09, 2023 04:15 PM (aXxgO)

299 291 Posted by: Moonbeam at May 09, 2023 04:14 PM (rbKZ6)

Bill Dee Kristol went home to the marxists because the left finally got over their hippie fetish, the left only hates GOP led maladventure.

If I could go back in time and nutpunch 1988 Sven for attacking the Pat Buchanan paleocons I would.

Posted by: sven at May 09, 2023 04:16 PM (X0I7i)

300 If "inappropriate touching" is battery, then Joe Biden should be in jail for the next 200 years.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 09, 2023 04:16 PM (PiwSw)

301 "Go woke go broke doesn't work. Almost no one truly goes broke."

It doesn't work ~instantly~, which is what way too many people on the right seem to think it should do.

Seriously, getting our government back to where it's supposed to be is going to be like losing weight. It didn't happen overnight, it's not going to be fixed overnight.

Good grief.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at May 09, 2023 04:16 PM (ou9hh)

302 Yeah, that's where Rome got almost all its money. They were self-supporting with agriculture, but weren't huge on trade. So they looted other nations for cash to buy stuff like wheat from Egypt. At least that's how I understand it.

My memory is that before they acquired their eastern territories the Roman state didn't have a lot of money - because the Roman/Italic people wouldn't put up with it.

But once they acquired the eastern territories they now had lands that had long accepted high tax rates and now the Roman government became rich.

And *this* was one of the keys to Rome's eventually decline.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2023 04:17 PM (lc5cP)

303 No one can hear the tiny Violin of Sympathy at the far end of the field of f*cks given.

Posted by: DaveA at May 09, 2023 04:17 PM (FhXTo)

304 Roads to Madness, Queensryche (am I allowed to invoke that name?) from The Warning. Came up on my playlist. Have not heard it in years. Excellent.

Wait. Was that off topic? Eh.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trailer Trash Adjacent at May 09, 2023 04:17 PM (T/Lqj)

305 If you're talking about the general, there is no way this doesn't hurt him.

It's almost as if that's how the Dems planned it.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2023 04:14 PM (eOEVl)

...

Rush always said no one could turn Trumps voters against him except Trump.

Between him attacking DeSantis and now this he's shedding voters for sure.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 09, 2023 04:17 PM (fNosa)

306 Everything is falling apart at Fox. Tucker tied the whole evening programming together.

TCT was the Dude's rug of prime time Fox.

Posted by: Bill at May 09, 2023 04:17 PM (j4NKg)

307 If I could go back in time and nutpunch 1988 Sven for attacking the Pat Buchanan paleocons I would.

Posted by: sven at May 09, 2023 04:16 PM (X0I7i)

The unbridled Jew-hate was a problem.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 04:17 PM (ZCCyW)

308 I only watched Tucker and then turned off. Won't turn to the channel again.

Posted by: Paul at May 09, 2023 04:17 PM (t4Wn2)

309 They were self-supporting with agriculture, but weren't huge on trade. So they looted other nations for cash to buy stuff like wheat from Egypt.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2023 04:14 PM (0hOvj)

Rome had one of the biggest trade empires in history, with a vast diversity of resources between its vassals and friends! Now granted, there was still a great deal of looting, but that was to punish enemies. Monty Python might be silly and a bit dated, but "what have the Romans done for us" remains one of their funniest and truest sketches.

Posted by: trev006 at May 09, 2023 04:17 PM (78UcJ)

310 This brunette in short shorts is delighted that the catastrophic declines for both News Corp and Tranheuser-Busch appear to be far exceeding the worst-case scenarios that the executives of those firms ever considered:
https://is.gd/brLIVU
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 04:13 PM (O4oKn)
........

I think she just farted.

Posted by: wth at May 09, 2023 04:18 PM (v0R5T)

311 You know who's really celebrating AOC and the Democrats. So, another win for the Left. Conservatives really are being erased and destroyed.
At least we sort of have have Twitter... I guess /

Posted by: redridinghood at May 09, 2023 04:18 PM (NpAcC)

312 286
Yeah, that's where Rome got almost all its money. They were self-supporting with agriculture, but weren't huge on trade. So they looted other nations for cash to buy stuff like wheat from Egypt. At least that's how I understand it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2023 04:14 PM (0hOvj)

They had lots of internal trade, though they were historically agriculturally oriented unlike the Carthaginians(who were more mercantile as their ancestors the Phoenicians were said to be). Italy was the original breadbasket of the empire with Egypt performing the role later. From an economic standpoint, the wealth of a nation is generally dependent on its labor and capital(the big exception is when the country's economy is built around servicing another country, such as a trade or financial empire). Romans had lots of resources, people, and tech so the empire was pretty productive outside of looting.

They also had a large welfare class they were sustaining.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 09, 2023 04:18 PM (eYoxG)

313 If "inappropriate touching" is battery, then Joe Biden should be in jail for the next 200 years.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 09, 2023 04:16 PM (PiwSw)

Just based on all the video evidence that is out there. Jeepers, what a fucking creep.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trailer Trash Adjacent at May 09, 2023 04:18 PM (T/Lqj)

314 News Networks don't have to make money. They just have to push "The Narrative."

Posted by: Walter Crankcase at May 09, 2023 04:19 PM (5u1+1)

315 Tucker Carlson on Fox News: "If you've got pronouns in your Twitter bio, you shouldn't work here because we can't trust you because you're on the other side.”

Does this Tucker guy have a newsletter I could subscribe to?

Posted by: LIV Moron at May 09, 2023 04:19 PM (NCgXW)

316 You know who's really celebrating AOC and the Democrats. So, another win for the Left. Conservatives really are being erased and destroyed.
At least we sort of have have Twitter... I guess /
Posted by: redridinghood at May 09, 2023 04:18 PM (NpAcC)
++++
Oh, yes. They are thrilled that FNC is dying. That doesn't stop me from being thrilled at the same, albeit for fundamentally different reasons.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 04:19 PM (O4oKn)

317 ace, it's not about the money
Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 09, 2023 03:33 PM (MLrvz)


My current theory is that "Stakeholder Capitalism" is an attempt to re-identify the customer as those entities that have invested in and hold influence over the corporations, and cartelize those corporations in how they supply ready and controlled populace to purchase and consume what the Stakeholders find most profitable.
This control over supply is combined with intensive advertising, propaganda and actual coercion to prevent possible consumer population from looking elsewhere.

"You can buy any icecream provided from the icecream corporation, and you can't stop buying it, or buy from independent producers, because that is what traitors and racists do, and that is why we will take away your right to use the phone."

Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2023 04:19 PM (xhaym)

318 307 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 04:17 PM (ZCCyW)

Nobody holds the left responsible for their lunatics, I helped break out 1984 coalition by holding the GOP accountable for theirs.

Posted by: sven at May 09, 2023 04:19 PM (X0I7i)

319 Rush always said no one could turn Trumps voters against him except Trump.

Between him attacking DeSantis and now this he's shedding voters for sure.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 09, 2023 04:17 PM (fNosa)


It's a mixed bag and I don't pretend to know how it will turn out. I am more than a bit Meatball curious but I feel like I will have to vote for Trump in the primary now.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 09, 2023 04:19 PM (aD39U)

320 very disappointed other Fox employees have not yet resigned in protest

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at May 09, 2023 04:19 PM (V6W16)

321 Stupidity is both infectious and contagious. Once Fox fired Tucker, you could catch a full dose of stupid if you watched Fox. Don't want to be stuck there, so I don't watch Fox anymore. And losing in the ratings to that hornrimmed glass frame wearing(I bet there are no lenses in them) little twerp Chris Hayes is beyond embarassing.

Posted by: GlendaleGreybeard at May 09, 2023 04:20 PM (cB7nX)

322 277 This brunette in short shorts is delighted that the catastrophic declines for both News Corp and Tranheuser-Busch appear to be far exceeding the worst-case scenarios that the executives of those firms ever considered:
https://is.gd/brLIVU
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 04:13 PM (O4oKn)

=========

Very inviting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 04:20 PM (LvTSG)

323 307 If I could go back in time and nutpunch 1988 Sven for attacking the Pat Buchanan paleocons I would.

Posted by: sven at May 09, 2023 04:16 PM (X0I7i)

The unbridled Jew-hate was a problem.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 04:17 PM (ZCCyW)

Yeah, that was bizarre… he always riffed off into that.. I would think “ yeah Pat you tell ‘em - wait, what the hell??”.

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2023 04:20 PM (PCK5/)

324 Now granted, there was still a great deal of looting, but that was to punish enemies.

Eh, it was almost always just an excuse. France didn't do anything to justify invading and curbstomping them into submission. It was just a way of bringing in money and giving a general a bunch of wins so they could advance in their careers and lives. Roman rulers over an area were shrugged at when they looted the hell out of their area, as much as they could get away with, because the money all came back to Rome and kept things working.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2023 04:20 PM (0hOvj)

325 Vast empires such as the Mongols often facilitate a lot of trade since they allowed distant locations to exchange goods without much risk of robbery compared to when the territories are disunited.

Kind of like how the US makes global trade possible today despite not really being that big on foreign trade itself.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 09, 2023 04:20 PM (eYoxG)

326 If I could go back in time and nutpunch 1988 Sven for attacking the Pat Buchanan paleocons I would.

Posted by: sven at May 09, 2023 04:16 PM (X0I7i)

The unbridled Jew-hate was a problem.


Pat didn't much like Israel, but he had a ton of Jews he worked with come forward and say he wasn't an anti-semite. Does that answer the charge...? hard to say because other Jews do defend people like Bro-Fo Omar.

However...on pretty much every other issue Pat proved to be correct.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2023 04:20 PM (lc5cP)

327 293 Wasn't Trump a Democrat 30 years ago when the alleged rape occurred? That should have been his defense.
Posted by: Iris at May 09, 2023 04:15 PM

One of the legal talking heads said that Trump’s team did not put on a defense or that Trump didn’t testify, and that could have hurt him with the jury. But maybe they thought that if he did testify, the defamation allegation would be a slam dunk verdict.

Posted by: Moonbeam at May 09, 2023 04:21 PM (rbKZ6)

328 Apparently, DiFi is returning to the Senate. Are they shipping her back to D.C. in a casket?

Posted by: mpfs , rogue employee in Cincinnati at May 09, 2023 04:21 PM (vJMBm)

329 Musk said the facility, which will be one of the largest of its kind in the world, will produce lithium for "about a million vehicles"

---

So 1/8th of NYC's population.

Posted by: 263K Civics sold, fewer than 150K non-luxury EVs sold. No one wants EVs. at May 09, 2023 04:21 PM (XTk1T)

330 "We are never restoring you to power. And if you oppose us? We'll just destroy you. You want a war? You and what Tranheuser-Busch army? Well you got a war."

Since I don't have a TV and don't drink, I feel like I'm not fully participating in the Current Battle of The War. Can't boycott what I never bought. All I can do is say "welcome to the party, pals."

Posted by: Long gpCoin at May 09, 2023 04:21 PM (MvF+J)

331 This brunette in short shorts

What did she wear for her jr. high school prom?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2023 04:21 PM (Keyt1)

332 You asked for it........


https://youtu.be/ILaTgQBKRbE
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at May 09, 2023 04:05 PM (Zz0t1)

Thanks. That was good.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 09, 2023 04:21 PM (BdMk6)

333
Go woke go broke doesn't work. Almost no one truly goes broke.
Posted by: Dr Pepper

=====

RAagghhh! That's GET woke go broke.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 09, 2023 04:21 PM (lCaJd)

334 News Networks don't have to make money. They just have to push "The Narrative."
Posted by: Walter Crankcase at May 09, 2023 04:19 PM (5u1+1)
++++
Absolutely. A lot of people appear to be under the misapprehension that thew news companies - and most of the media companies more generally - are not in the money-making business. They are in the propaganda business.

We have far too many outlets, and the subsidies (mostly from plutocrats) will eventually run out. We will see a wave of consolidation, likely in the next several years. We don't really need more than two news majors (one for the State, one for the Party - just like the USSR) and a few specialized satellites for each, along with the local coverage sources that augment the Official Message with local happenings.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 04:21 PM (O4oKn)

335 If you're talking about the general, there is no way this doesn't hurt him.

It's almost as if that's how the Dems planned it.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2023 04:14 PM (eOEVl)

Yeesh. This is as clueless as "Trump said Pussy," which the NeverTrumpers of 2016 were also trying to peddle. The various Trump trials are farcically bad on their own merits: when compared to the kid gloves applied to Biden and the Epsteinites, it practically begs Americans to hunt down the vermin. And outs most of the "electability" people as cretins, but that was baked into the cake.

Posted by: trev006 at May 09, 2023 04:21 PM (78UcJ)

336 The parents of Bill Kristol and Jonah Goldberg were prominent pioneers of the Neocon movement.

Posted by: Moonbeam at May 09, 2023 04:14 PM (rbKZ6)

Kristol...yes. His father was an astute political observer, and his mother was the brains of the family. But Goldberg's father and mother were nothings.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 04:21 PM (ZCCyW)

337 The death that continues in slow motion -- Foxheiser

Posted by: SMOD at May 09, 2023 04:21 PM (RHGPo)

338 It's a mixed bag and I don't pretend to know how it will turn out. I am more than a bit Meatball curious but I feel like I will have to vote for Trump in the primary now.

That's exactly what the Dems are counting on. I'm not saying don't vote for Trump, although I'm a D guy, but I'm saying don't let the Dems steer you to support the guy they want to run against.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2023 04:22 PM (eOEVl)

339
Rush always said no one could turn Trumps voters against him except Trump.

Between him attacking DeSantis and now this he's shedding voters for sure.
---
I for one, now realize just how blind I've been. It took a motley collection of manhattanites to help me see the light! O what joy to be relieved of the burden of my own choices and to do just what the media and the elites desire.

Posted by: Sweet mystery of life at last I've found you at May 09, 2023 04:22 PM (sh1GZ)

340 They also had a large welfare class they were sustaining.

I don't think they really saw it as welfare though, they considered it just a normal system for the government to gather taxes of grain etc and distribute it to the people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2023 04:23 PM (0hOvj)

341 You can bet there will be more E.Jean Carroll's coming out of the woodwork accusing Trump of sexual harassment from 30 yrs ago.

With a jury in New York or DC it's an easy way to make 5 mil.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 09, 2023 04:23 PM (NpAcC)

342 I am fairly certain that Heaven was a little pleased with Rome because she took the duties of Jurisprudence quite seriously. Heaven wants us to live in a peaceful and orderly society.

When the government stops administering Justice under the Law, bad things happen. Expect more bad things.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at May 09, 2023 04:23 PM (5u1+1)

343 Kristol...yes. His father was an astute political observer, and his mother was the brains of the family. But Goldberg's father and mother were nothings.

Goldberg's mother was part of the reason Bill Clinton's sex crimes came to light and she launched one of the most important right wing sites of the early internet.

That her son is working for the people that literally wanted to kill her now is...disgusting.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2023 04:23 PM (lc5cP)

344 They also had a large welfare class they were sustaining.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 09, 2023 04:18 PM (eYoxG)

I remember seeing somewhere where a prefesser explained how most of the Romans living in Rome at Empire Time lived in hot in the summer, cold in the winter, cramped and dingy apartments that most likely smelled bad and were not good for their health.

Kinda like New Yawk City.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 09, 2023 04:24 PM (MZjWj)

345 Between him attacking DeSantis and now this he's shedding voters for sure.

---

Ha.

We're literally discussing a frontrunner presidential candidate being charged with "liable for rape" or something, but Trump's mean tweets are too damaging for Desantis.

Once the MSM, the feds, the state/local stuff starts up in earnest, Trump's mean tweets would be looked at as love letters.

Posted by: 263K Civics sold, fewer than 150K non-luxury EVs sold. No one wants EVs. at May 09, 2023 04:24 PM (XTk1T)

346 >>What did she wear for her jr. high school prom?


Pearls

Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2023 04:24 PM (7oh2Z)

347 The unbridled Jew-hate was a problem.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 04:17 PM (ZCCyW)


Yeah, and well.

I used to tell a friend, way back when, "don't worry about it, the KKK around here is focused on hating Catholics mostly"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2023 04:24 PM (xhaym)

348 This brunette in short shorts is delighted that the catastrophic declines for both News Corp and Tranheuser-Busch appear to be far exceeding the worst-case scenarios that the executives of those firms ever considered:
https://is.gd/brLIVU
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 04:13 PM (O4oKn)

=========

Very inviting.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 04:20 PM (LvTSG)

---------

The Sheena Easton duet with Prince, "Sugar Walls," just popped into my head.

Posted by: ShainS at May 09, 2023 04:24 PM (oiERh)

349 So, the judge in this retarded Trump trial actually admonished the defendant in open court for not testifying - yeah, this is not making it 5 seconds past appeal - but not one lefty wackadoodle in NYC even cares.

Not one shred of evidence was even hinted at during the trial that the defendant did anything that the plaintiff claimed - or that Trump even ever met the plaintiff - didn't matter- 'cause Trump. Yeah - line up ladies of NYC - might as well sue Trump for everything he's worth - its a freebie!

Posted by: Boswell at May 09, 2023 04:24 PM (+Cgut)

350 But Goldberg's father and mother were nothings.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 04:21 PM (ZCCyW
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Wasn't Lucianne Goldberg his mom? Didn't she pioneer the news aggregating web site formate?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at May 09, 2023 04:25 PM (2YtOq)

351 Kind of like how the US makes global trade possible today despite not really being that big on foreign trade itself.

That's one of Peter Zeihan's big themes. In the post-war world, we told everyone we'd take care of international security and freedom of the seas if they let us set policy. It worked, although it required us to foot a defense bill that was much larger than we needed just for the US. PZ has concluded that we're no longer interested in doing that, so the era of globalization is over.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2023 04:25 PM (eOEVl)

352 >>What did she wear for her jr. high school prom?


Pearls
Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2023 04:24 PM (7oh2Z)


That was at the after-party.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 09, 2023 04:25 PM (aD39U)

353 So, the judge in this retarded Trump trial actually admonished the defendant in open court for not testifying - yeah, this is not making it 5 seconds past appeal - but not one lefty wackadoodle in NYC even cares.

Not one shred of evidence was even hinted at during the trial that the defendant did anything that the plaintiff claimed - or that Trump even ever met the plaintiff - didn't matter- 'cause Trump. Yeah - line up ladies of NYC - might as well sue Trump for everything he's worth - its a freebie!
Posted by: Boswell at May 09, 2023 04:24 PM (+Cgut)
++++
It's patently absurd and should never have seen a courtroom, let alone a conviction.

But what makes you think that an appeal will be successful?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 04:25 PM (O4oKn)

354 France didn't do anything to justify invading and curbstomping them into submission. It was just a way of bringing in money and giving a general a bunch of wins so they could advance in their careers and lives. Roman rulers over an area were shrugged at when they looted the hell out of their area, as much as they could get away with, because the money all came back to Rome and kept things working.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2023 04:20 PM (0hOvj)

They were better described as "the Gauls." But while that is the theory, Rome went out of their way to improve subject territories with roads, law, aqueducts, currency, and more. That's considerably better than the Chinese do in many African countries. True, they weren't exactly renowned for beautifying Israel, but under the circumstances they didn't see a lot worth improving in that locale.

Posted by: trev006 at May 09, 2023 04:25 PM (78UcJ)

355 LOL people simping for the NY Jury verdict like it's going to hurt Trump.

The women who didn't like Trump before the verdict still won't like Trump after. And a woman who says this changes her mind is a fucking idiot, point blank, no cap, fr fr.

Trump's pussy tape didn't sink him, this won't, and in a year it will be reversed on appeal because the Judge basically instructed the jury to recognize something as weak as a hand touch or kiss on the cheek to be guilty, yet TRUMP. WASN'T. THERE.

Posted by: UwU_Power at May 09, 2023 04:25 PM (YP2EJ)

356 340 "They also had a large welfare class they were sustaining."

I don't think they really saw it as welfare though, they considered it just a normal system for the government to gather taxes of grain etc and distribute it to the people.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2023 04:23 PM (0hOvj)

Well the concept didn't really exist in that form. I figure they likely saw it more as a form of public bribery, since that was how the Greeks tended to treat it narratively when talking about the collapse of their own welfare schemes.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 09, 2023 04:26 PM (eYoxG)

357 341 You can bet there will be more E.Jean Carroll's coming out of the woodwork accusing Trump of sexual harassment from 30 yrs ago.

With a jury in New York or DC it's an easy way to make 5 mil.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 09, 2023 04:23 PM (NpAcC)


Pasty-white, anemic, and ready!

Posted by: Gloria Allred at May 09, 2023 04:26 PM (PiwSw)

358 I for one, now realize just how blind I've been. It took a motley collection of manhattanites to help me see the light! O what joy to be relieved of the burden of my own choices and to do just what the media and the elites desire.
Posted by: Sweet mystery of life at last I've found you at May 09, 2023 04:22 PM (sh1GZ)


*snort*

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 09, 2023 04:26 PM (DRSnL)

359 336- Kristol...yes. His father was an astute political observer, and his mother was the brains of the family. But Goldberg's father and mother were nothings.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 04:21 PM

CBD- you’re right, I’m an idiot. I was thinking of Podhoretz but mentioned Goldberg.

Posted by: Moonbeam at May 09, 2023 04:26 PM (rbKZ6)

360 I am impressed by the well adjusted young ladies Joe Mannix hangs out with.

Posted by: DanMan at May 09, 2023 04:26 PM (DB6tu)

361 346 >>What did she wear for her jr. high school prom?

Pearls
Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2023 04:24 PM

I heard her older High School boyfriend gave her a pearl necklace!

Posted by: Mean Girl Gossip at May 09, 2023 04:26 PM (NCgXW)

362 If I could go back in time and nutpunch 1988 Sven for attacking the Pat Buchanan paleocons I would.

Posted by: sven at May 09, 2023 04:16 PM (X0I7i)

The unbridled Jew-hate was a problem.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 04:17 PM (ZCCyW)

Yeah, that was bizarre… he always riffed off into that.. I would think “ yeah Pat you tell ‘em - wait, what the hell??”.
==
Today, if you told me that it was an Op. I'd not be able to shout you down.

Posted by: the amount of weird shit, that is probably true, it getting bigger every day at May 09, 2023 04:26 PM (sh1GZ)

363 Pat Buchanan disqualified from political life because he was an asshat on Israel...

Emperor Urkle X, Hakeem Jeffries, and Ilhan Omar....

well not so much

Posted by: sven at May 09, 2023 04:26 PM (X0I7i)

364 I remember being threatened with banning when I socked as "Coxswain Eddy~!"

* polishes medal *

Posted by: weft-cut loop at May 09, 2023 04:27 PM (jzzG8)

365 >>Between him attacking DeSantis and now this he's shedding voters for sure.


You'd think that would be reflected in the Polling, wouldn't you?

But he's up over 30 pts.

Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2023 04:27 PM (7oh2Z)

366 In statistics, there is a thing called "regression to the mean."

You could have great parents and still be ordinary.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at May 09, 2023 04:27 PM (5u1+1)

367 Regardless of anything, France ALWAYS deserves to be invaded.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 09, 2023 04:27 PM (pohLc)

368 Pasty-white, anemic, and ready!
Posted by: Gloria Allred at May 09, 2023 04:26 PM (PiwSw)
*******
Her daughter will pick up the overflow.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 09, 2023 04:27 PM (NpAcC)

369 That's one of Peter Zeihan's big themes. In the post-war world, we told everyone we'd take care of international security and freedom of the seas if they let us set policy. It worked, although it required us to foot a defense bill that was much larger than we needed just for the US. PZ has concluded that we're no longer interested in doing that, so the era of globalization is over.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2023 04:25 PM (eOEVl)
++++
I think Zeihan is wrong on his causes, but not his effects on this topic.

It isn't that the US is no longer interested in maintaining global security, especially on the high seas. We are. We would love to do it. That world was very, very good for us.

We *can't* do it anymore. We don't have the wealth. We don't have the expertise. We don't have the industrial base. We can't afford it and we probably can't continue to effectively operate the institutions and equipment that makes it possible. We're not unwilling, we're increasingly unable.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 04:27 PM (O4oKn)

370 355 Trump's pussy tape didn't sink him, this won't, and in a year it will be reversed on appeal because the Judge basically instructed the jury to recognize something as weak as a hand touch or kiss on the cheek to be guilty, yet TRUMP. WASN'T. THERE.
Posted by: UwU_Power at May 09, 2023 04:25 PM (YP2EJ)

======

The pussy tape is why I do not believe the "suburban wine moms lost us 2020" narrative.

2016 was the height of anti-Trump stuff based on the woman hating angle. The #MeToo movement exploded right after (it was a designed explosion, meant to align with the rise of Hillary but became a tool against Trump). And then, suddenly in 2020, suburban women learned that Trump was icky? Something they didn't know in 2016?

Psh.

Occam's Razor says that it was something else that changed, not what Democrat women thought of Trump.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 04:28 PM (LvTSG)

371 But what makes you think that an appeal will be successful?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 04:25 PM (O4oKn)

Judge admonished the defendant in open court for not testifying. Jury tainted. Appeals court win 101.

Posted by: Boswell at May 09, 2023 04:28 PM (+Cgut)

372 That's one of Peter Zeihan's big themes. In the post-war world, we told everyone we'd take care of international security and freedom of the seas if they let us set policy. It worked, although it required us to foot a defense bill that was much larger than we needed just for the US. PZ has concluded that we're no longer interested in doing that, so the era of globalization is over.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2023 04:25 PM (eOEVl)

Interest aside, we're reaching the point where the US is no longer capable of doing so as it requires the US to be a lot stronger than any potential rivals.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 09, 2023 04:28 PM (eYoxG)

373 365 You'd think that would be reflected in the Polling, wouldn't you?

But he's up over 30 pts.
Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2023 04:27 PM (7oh2Z)

========

"You see, this is pissing me off, which means that it's pissing everyone off because everyone thinks like me, which is why nothing ever happens my way in electoral politics."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 04:29 PM (LvTSG)

374 Judge admonished the defendant in open court for not testifying. Jury tainted. Appeals court win 101.
Posted by: Boswell at May 09, 2023 04:28 PM (+Cgut)
++++
Sure, if there were rules. I see little evidence of rules.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 04:29 PM (O4oKn)

375 But he's up over 30 pts.
Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2023 04:27 PM (7oh2Z)

It's going to be 40 after this despicable judgment. The idea of bankrupting a billionaire through sustained attacks on the legal system works in theory, but what are all the nebbishes going to do when the guns are turned round on them, with the laws all being flat?

Posted by: trev006 at May 09, 2023 04:29 PM (78UcJ)

376 >>The Sheena Easton duet with Prince, "Sugar Walls," just popped into my head.


True Fact: Ace wrote Sugar Walls.
He's living still off of the Royalties from that one.

That. And the T-Shirt Money from the Blog.

Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2023 04:29 PM (7oh2Z)

377 It isn't that the US is no longer interested in maintaining global security, especially on the high seas. We are. We would love to do it. That world was very, very good for us.

We *can't* do it anymore. We don't have the wealth. We don't have the expertise. We don't have the industrial base. We can't afford it and we probably can't continue to effectively operate the institutions and equipment that makes it possible. We're not unwilling, we're increasingly unable.


There is much wisdom here.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2023 04:29 PM (eOEVl)

378 This brunette in short shorts is delighted that the catastrophic declines for both News Corp and Tranheuser-Busch appear to be far exceeding the worst-case scenarios that the executives of those firms ever considered:
https://is.gd/brLIVU
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 04:13 PM (O4oKn)


I wonder if she's a shuffle girl.

Posted by: spindrift at May 09, 2023 04:29 PM (ivvNA)

379 You'd think that would be reflected in the Polling, wouldn't you?

But he's up over 30 pts.
Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2023 04:27 PM (7oh2Z)

I think going in, we all agreed on no facts would be cited

so watch yourself

this is a "Trump is finished " post

only wishcasting is allowed

Posted by: REDACTED at May 09, 2023 04:29 PM (us2H3)

380 We could protect the high seas from piracy. But the Dems would rather spend the $$$$ elsewhere.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at May 09, 2023 04:30 PM (5u1+1)

381 I heard her older High School boyfriend gave her a pearl necklace!

That is the weirdest name for someone ejaculating on some woman's neck.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2023 04:30 PM (Keyt1)

382 The various Trump trials are farcically bad on their own merits: when compared to the kid gloves applied to Biden and the Epsteinites, it practically begs Americans to hunt down the vermin. And outs most of the "electability" people as cretins, but that was baked into the cake.
Posted by: trev006

You're pretending people will ever read the details and form their own conclusions.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 09, 2023 04:30 PM (3FaTO)

383 Trump's breath stinks............

Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at May 09, 2023 04:30 PM (snpvX)

384 362 Posted by: the amount of weird shit, that is probably true, it getting bigger every day at May 09, 2023 04:26 PM (sh1GZ)

I said that at the time as well, in essence I think Beijing Bill was forgive me "groomed" and the hand grenade with the bad haircut (perot) and the Bat Buchanan op allowed him to slip through.

Posted by: sven at May 09, 2023 04:30 PM (X0I7i)

385 NOOD Trump is a rapist

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 09, 2023 04:31 PM (DRSnL)

386 What's funny is that RFK Jr is closer to Biden than DeSantis is to Trump.

Let that sink in.

Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2023 04:31 PM (7oh2Z)

387 *can't* ?

Do the asterisks denote sarcasm? Because my sarcasmometer is up?

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at May 09, 2023 04:31 PM (5u1+1)

388 I said that at the time as well, in essence I think Beijing Bill was forgive me "groomed" and the hand grenade with the bad haircut (perot) and the Bat Buchanan op allowed him to slip through.
Posted by: sven at May 09, 2023 04:30 PM (X0I7i)
++++
Perot was, as it turns out, about 20 or so years early.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 04:32 PM (O4oKn)

389 I will make this prediction

If Meatball takes Jerry River's advice and brings this up in a debate

Meatball might as well switch parties cuz he will be finished as a republican

Posted by: REDACTED at May 09, 2023 04:32 PM (us2H3)

390 I heard not only is E jean a nut job but her "story" matches an episode of Law and Order from 2012.

Posted by: Gwenn at May 09, 2023 04:32 PM (9Gr7n)

391 Trump. He will be easily nominated. Being elected is quite another matter, for reasons often enumerated here, and said reasons would apply to any other nominee.

Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2023 04:32 PM (PCK5/)

392 The various Trump trials are farcically bad on their own merits: when compared to the kid gloves applied to Biden and the Epsteinites, it practically begs Americans to hunt down the vermin. And outs most of the "electability" people as cretins, but that was baked into the cake.
Posted by: trev006

You're pretending people will ever read the details and form their own conclusions.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 09, 2023 04:30 PM (3FaTO)
******
The jury pool has already made up its mind.
GUILTY because it's Trump.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 09, 2023 04:32 PM (NpAcC)

393 Tranheuser-Busch, I like it.
Saw yesterday that the CEO was addressing this. Blamed "misinformation on the internet".
That'll work.

Posted by: From about that Time at May 09, 2023 04:33 PM (4780s)

394 My family cut the cord at the exact same time Fox canned Tucker. It wasn't planned that way. I had wanted to cut the cord for a year, but the wife only agreed to when I showed her that the only cable shows that she watches were on PlutoTV.

Still, if I'm counted as a Tucker-inspired cord-cutter by the corporate interests, so much the better.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 09, 2023 04:33 PM (p0Mx9)

395 Her husband died and she wrote a children's book about grief. Now she's been charged with his murder.

-
So now research is illegal?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 09, 2023 04:33 PM (FVME7)

396 Do the asterisks denote sarcasm? Because my sarcasmometer is up?
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at May 09, 2023 04:31 PM (5u1+1)
++++
No, they define emphasis. Much faster than typing italics tags.

And we increasingly can't accomplish the mission. We don't have the money, we can't build the weapons and ships effectively, we can't maintain our force-projection adequately, and we're institutionally favoring political affiliation over expertise and competence in the armed forces. We can't do the job anymore. It isn't an on/off toggle, it's a rheostat. That rheostat is being turned down by the day.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 04:33 PM (O4oKn)

397 The pussy tape is why I do not believe the "suburban wine moms lost us 2020" narrative.

2016 was the height of anti-Trump stuff based on the woman hating angle. The #MeToo movement exploded right after (it was a designed explosion, meant to align with the rise of Hillary but became a tool against Trump).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at May 09, 2023 04:28 PM (LvTSG)

I always thought the MeToo movement was designed as stray voltage away from the massive abuse by certain tribal Hollywood types, but fair enough. Suburbanites, the white working class, even most non-Jewish minorities. Donald Trump vastly improved his margins across the board, which is why he got 10 million plus more votes. You have to go back to Reagan 1984 to see that kind of improvement.

Mail in voting was implemented to counter that, and it STILL wasn't enough. Hence the Steal.

Posted by: trev006 at May 09, 2023 04:33 PM (78UcJ)

398 Don't worry about Thursday, people!

WH: Biden “Has Been Closely Consulting” With Kamala Harris On Southern Border Crisis

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 09, 2023 04:34 PM (FVME7)

399 Ya know, my mother always said "First, we kill the judges".
She thought it an improvement over Shakespeare.

Posted by: From about that Time at May 09, 2023 04:35 PM (4780s)

400 trev006: "...but what are all the nebbishes going to do when the guns are turned round on them, with the laws all being flat?"

They honestly don't think that far ahead. It can't happen to them.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 09, 2023 04:35 PM (aXxgO)

401 Sure, if there were rules. I see little evidence of rules.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 09, 2023 04:29 PM (O4oKn)

Sure, but at the appeals level - where any adult judge would like to advance beyond the hack level that this civil trial judge has decided his sorry career trail has now ended - they actual care because getting it this wrong actually makes them laughingstocks - and their faces actual hurt when they are laughed in.

Unlike judge "I'll say in my court whatever gets me another drink at the bar" who thought it was a real judicial winner to admonish Trump in front of the jury for publicly saying something but then didn't testify in his court.

Posted by: Boswell at May 09, 2023 04:35 PM (+Cgut)

402 Meatball might as well switch parties cuz he will be finished as a republican
==
And if he does, you will see what he really is - a tool.

If he doesn't, then you will see that he is a politician. Doesn't mean he's good or bad, but he's not in it just to destroy Trump.

Posted by: The More You Know at May 09, 2023 04:36 PM (sh1GZ)

403 Apparently, DiFi is returning to the Senate. Are they shipping her back to D.C. in a casket?

Posted by: mpfs , rogue employee in Cincinnati at May 09, 2023 04:21 PM


It might work, they tried that with mccain but got caught at the last minute.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 09, 2023 04:37 PM (ncXxy)

404 Unlike judge "I'll say in my court whatever gets me another drink at the bar" who thought it was a real judicial winner to admonish Trump in front of the jury for publicly saying something but then didn't testify in his court.
=
You aren't technically incorrect. I will say, that after decades of working with Judges, some of them, well probably a fair number, are just fucking nuts. Straight up, unable to control themselves, wackos. Its a hazard of the job, I reckon.

Posted by: The More You Know at May 09, 2023 04:38 PM (sh1GZ)

405 Don't worry about Thursday, people!

WH: Biden “Has Been Closely Consulting” With Kamala Harris On Southern Border Crisis
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 09, 2023 04:34 PM (FVME7)
******
Thanks for putting my mind at ease.
I will sleep well tonight.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 09, 2023 04:39 PM (NpAcC)

406 @320 very disappointed other Fox employees have not yet resigned in protest

----

At least some might be waiting to see what Tucker does next.

Posted by: junior at May 09, 2023 04:42 PM (3DI1b)

407 trev006: "...but what are all the nebbishes going to do when the guns are turned round on them, with the laws all being flat?"

They honestly don't think that far ahead. It can't happen to them.
==
The demolition man laughs and laughs.

Posted by: The More You Know at May 09, 2023 04:42 PM (sh1GZ)

408 Goldberg's mother was part of the reason Bill Clinton's sex crimes came to light and she launched one of the most important right wing sites of the early internet.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2023 04:23 PM (lc5cP)


She was also a low-life and a sleaze. And definitely not a neocon.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 09, 2023 04:44 PM (ZCCyW)

409 They honestly don't think that far ahead. It can't happen to them.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 09, 2023 04:35 PM (aXxgO)

Just like Weimar.

Posted by: trev006 at May 09, 2023 04:52 PM (78UcJ)

410 Di-Fi CGI will be a lot more exciting

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2023 04:56 PM (xhxe8)

411 405 Don't worry about Thursday, people!

WH: Biden “Has Been Closely Consulting” With Kamala Harris On Southern Border Crisis
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at May 09, 2023 04:34 PM (FVME7)
******
Thanks for putting my mind at ease.
I will sleep well tonight.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 09, 2023 04:39 PM

She couldn't possibly blow them all...could she?

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Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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