Mark and Mollie Hemingway: The GOP Has No Chance of Winning Another Presidential Election Unless and Until It Gets Serious About "Unrigging" Our Elections

It might not matter whom Republicans run for president in 2024.
America's propaganda press traffics in disinformation. Its Big Tech oligarchs censor news and information helpful to conservatives, while elevating biased news and information that helps the Left. And its election systems have been overrun by privately funded groups that run Democratic "get out the vote" campaigns to traffic ballots into ballot boxes. We catalogued this particularly complex problem in Rigged: How the Media, Big Tech, and the Democrats Seized Our Elections.
Instead of election day, we now have an "election season"--during which, over a period of months, we flood homes across the country with tens of millions of mail-in ballots, regardless of whether secretaries of state or local registrars have any idea if those ballots are being sent to the correct addresses. This in a country where 11% of residents move every year. We then wait for sophisticated partisan turnout operations funded by activist billionaires and run by ideological statisticians to round up those ballots in entirely selective ways.
This culminates with us all glued to our TVs on a Tuesday evening in November listening to "journalists" who spent the months leading up to the election smothering any accurate information about the state of the country with a pillow, making empty judgments about the health of American democracy based entirely on how much the results will further advance policies that favor a toxic admixture of their own corporate paymasters and woke Montagnards.

The Montagnards were the ultra-left radicals in the Revolutionary French Assembly. Or whatever that body was called.

They sat in the highest seats in the assembly hall, thus, they were called "the Mountain." Or "The mountainists." (Though montagnard might just be related to monter, to climb or to ascend.)

They were the model for all subsequent purges. They purged everyone. Every single one of their allies went to the guillotines, eventually. First the Republicans, those who wanted to keep the king, but within a constitutional order in which his powers were checked. Then the Girondists, who were anti-monarchists but who didn't want to murder everyone in the nobility. Then the leftists. Then the hard leftists.

No one was pure enough for the #Woke radical murderers of the Mountain.

They killed everyone until everyone realized that it was only a matter of time until they all went into the guillotines, and a lieutenant named Napoleon said, "Hey, I've got a great, instead of waiting around for the Montagnards to cut our heads off, let's just go drag them out of city hall and chop all of their heads off."

And so they did.

I keep waiting for the Thermodorian Reaction here in the hellscape called America.

In this world, concerns about candidate quality are irrelevant. If we don't fix this complete capture of election infrastructure, it might be impossible for anyone with a sincere desire to prioritize the interests of voters over the ruling class to win a national election.
Case in point: To the surprise of many, Republicans' electoral expectations fizzled in the 2022 midterms. With runaway inflation, Biden's disastrous exit from Afghanistan, and a long line of electoral precedents, Republicans should have had an historic victory. Instead, Democrats gained in the Senate despite a very favorable map for Republicans, and the GOP captured only the narrowest of margins in the House.
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The more likely explanation for these results is that Democratic ballot harvesting operations have reached such heights of sophistication that they can parachute into decisive battlegrounds and scare up enough votes among ignorant and unmotivated citizens to overcome the natural enthusiasm of informed and self-motivated voters.

And of course they just pay citizens to turn in their ballots to them. $10 per ballot, a "ballot harverster" reported in Florida as he dropped dime on his crimes. And he would check those ballots -- which were sealed -- committing a crime in opening them. And if the person voted the "wrong way," he'd either "correct" those ballots or just dump them in the trash.

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Just because some Democratic voter operations are technically legal, however, doesn't mean strategists and lawmakers shouldn't routinely point out that many of their schemes are genuinely sinister and should be immediately stopped. Facebook-turned-Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg spent in excess of $400 million on "COVID election grants." Naturally, those grants were distributed in a highly disproportionate way such that a) the largest grants went to areas of swing states with a high concentration of Democratic voters and b) the money came with strings attached, such that Democratic Party activists were allowed to run "get out the vote" operations directly from ostensibly nonpartisan local election offices. The problem was so bad that a city clerk in Green Bay, Wisconsin quit because these outside activists had taken over her job.
Incredibly, letting outside activists pay to administer America's election infrastructure was allowed, because it was such outrageous behavior that no one thought they would ever have to pass a law to stop it from happening. Since 2020, at least 17 states have passed laws making private funding of elections illegal. Naturally, the same groups involved in this scheme in the last presidential election have been brazenly trying to skirt those laws. These attempts to purchase electoral outcomes through giving "grants" to election offices also remain legal in much of the country, and despite some good work from GOP-led legislatures addressing the issue, much more needs to be done.

The Hemingways also discuss the "disinformation-government complex" and the censorship imposed by leftwing government groups and pseudo-government groups -- as well as by Woke Corporations, who have allowed themselves to become arms of the government and hence government actors themselves.

A call for an end of GOPe Business as Usual. Your business sucks. Your business model sucks. Your customers are abandoning you and may simply stop voting altogehter. Time for a new business strategy.

Similarly, conservative think tanks and advocacy groups need to get beyond policy papers and fundraising and use their resources to get aligned citizens to demand integrity and accountability of so many of our foundering institutions. The Right is generally uncomfortable with pressure campaigns; but they would do well to remember that these institutions have already largely been captured because the Left had no compunctions about them. If anything, we need to cultivate our own organizational powers specifically to counter the Left's unchecked desire to make threats. If leftist shock troops want to burn city centers to the ground, intimidate conservative lawmakers at their homes, or shut down legislative bodies with protests, this behavior must be countered immediately with the force and legal consequences necessary to stop them from pursuing these reprehensible tactics again.

There's some argument made about it not mattering if we nominate Trump or DeSantis. I don't agree with that -- I believe that Trump brings his own special set of problems to any election above and beyond the left's eagerness to rig them against him -- but I definitely agree we need to do something about all the #Rigging.

You can read the article for that.

They conclude:

The problems are pressing and dire, and the best time to start working on these structural challenges was about 50 years ago. The second best time is now.

Indeed.

Posted by: Ace at 05:17 PM

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1 Good afternoon.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2023 05:18 PM (qoGsy)

2 In order to unrig any future election, we have to have elected folks that want to do that.

No gots.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2023 05:19 PM (qoGsy)

3 I nooded.

And I liked it.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2023 05:20 PM (qoGsy)

4 Who says "they" want to win ?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 05, 2023 05:21 PM (bs+z0)

5 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2023 05:22 PM (T4tVD)

6 Sigh....Back to the real world. I enjoyed the interlude though.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 05, 2023 05:22 PM (Y+l9t)

7 I am old enough to remember two weeks or so ago when commenters were chided for making this same point.

Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 05:23 PM (Ekky5)

8 The GOP is the "nice guy" who expects the girl to see what a great catch he is, even when he makes no effort to actually win her over. He then gets angry when she chases after the moody artist or the douchebag with the trust fund who cheats on her.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 05, 2023 05:23 PM (T55C8)

9 The GOPe doesn't care as they are in secure districts and states. The NY GOP has a problem (besides being useless) that there is a case pending that could overturn the congressional districts drawn after the Hochulmander. It could wipe out the gains made in last election, which is why the GOP is in charge of House

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 05, 2023 05:23 PM (El6CU)

10 Instead of election day, we now have an "election season"--during which, over a period of months, we flood homes across the country with tens of millions of mail-in ballots, regardless of whether secretaries of state or local registrars have any idea if those ballots are being sent to the correct addresses.
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And if you bring the problem to court your case is thrown out.
~k.lake

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 05, 2023 05:24 PM (7O3of)

11 I agree with them.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 05, 2023 05:24 PM (ncXxy)

12 Joe BIden is ...inevitable ?

Posted by: runner at May 05, 2023 05:25 PM (V13WU)

13 The oligarchy has zero respect for elections if it threatens their power in any way. I thought Trump was going to permit them to have some mild corruption, but clearly the issues go a million miles beyond that. And heavily involve the Epstein legacy.

I don't -care- about elections, not as I did, but I don't want to be gulled by the next Romney Substitute. Now that I don't have to worry about that, I can worry about the impending war with Russia and China.

Posted by: trev006 at May 05, 2023 05:26 PM (78UcJ)

14 "And if you bring the problem to court your case is thrown out."

And that is a bigger problem than the first.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, making split pea soup at May 05, 2023 05:26 PM (jTmQV)

15 Ace: "Sure elections are stolen, but vote against Trump anyway, just to be safe." I was waiting for that, and I wasn't disappointed.

Neither Trump nor DeSantis are going to win, because the elections are stolen.

Posted by: Dr. Titanium Whitey, JD at May 05, 2023 05:27 PM (h2ol8)

16 And if you bring the problem to court your case is thrown out.
~k.lake
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No standing because it's not election day. Or something.

Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 05:27 PM (Ekky5)

17 Wind down the covid emergency? B-b-but cases are on the rise! Deaths are at an all time high!

White House officials spoke with about a dozen leading experts in virology, immunobiology and other fields about the prospect that the virus would again develop mutations that allow it to evade protections from vaccines and treatments. Those discussions, not previously reported, came as the administration plan for the May 11 end of the public health emergency that was declared at the dawn of the pandemic.
A forecast from one widely regarded scientist pegged the risk at a more alarming level, suggesting a 40 percent chance of an omicron-like wave.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 05, 2023 05:28 PM (Ih9rg)

18

ROTFFLMAO!

Don't you understand, we are ALL THE SAME TEAM!

Y'all dumb sheep...

Posted by: Goper at May 05, 2023 05:28 PM (bQ/08)

19 I just want the atomic bombs to start dropping as the asteroids slam into Earth from every direction. If God is watching, it's time for a reboot.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 05, 2023 05:28 PM (CHHv1)

20 Good point about the Montagnards. The executions only stopped once a few people who realized they could be next banded together and executed a small handful, and then...the executions stopped. That 'small handful' sat on - get this - the 'Committee On Public Safety'. Turns out once these few were dusted the executions stopped. Just like Stalin was stopped ONLY when a few brave souls who realized they were likely next decided to take action and mortally poison him.

Bunch of cowards, the lot.

Posted by: geewhiz at May 05, 2023 05:29 PM (65K9+)

21 And the article sucks because it doesn't address the fact that globalist billionaires really want to molest kids. Without that, of course the solutions are going to be a huge waste of time.

A pretender who's willing to sweep Epstein and January 6th under the rug will get as much money as he wants. A genuinely determined candidate, but ESPECIALLY Donald Trump, can look forward to jail time before the Wall Streeters ever permit them in high office again.

Posted by: trev006 at May 05, 2023 05:29 PM (78UcJ)

22 "There's some argument made about it not mattering if we nominate Trump or DeSantis. I don't agree with that -- I believe that Trump brings his own special set of problems to any election above and beyond the left's eagerness to rig them against him...."

There's the rub. Now that the left has spent 7 years demonizing Trump, who let's admit it, gives them plenty of ammo, in their minds he is the equivalent of Hitler. And it's okay to do anything, including break the law, to stop Hitler, right? At least this is the mindset of most of the bureaucrats who run our elections.

So eve if Trump would win legitimately, it won't matter because they are absolutely determined to stop him. And even if some of the cheating is called out, it won't matter because the GOP establishment, Fox News, etc. won't stand up for Trump either.

Will they demonize a non-Trump Republican candidate? Of course they will. But they only have about 18 months to do it, and whatever they say, he (or she) will not be as demonized as the guy they've been working over for 8 years (by election time).

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at May 05, 2023 05:29 PM (1gif2)

23 In order to unrig any future election, we have to have elected folks that want to do that.

No gots.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 05, 2023 05:19 PM (qoGsy)

Or convince the people currently in power that they do want that, by whatever means it takes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2023 05:30 PM (tkR6S)

24 I'm looking forward to seeing who they use for the riots this season. Seems like it will have to be a cross dresser. The problem will be finding one that wasn't kilt by a black person.

Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 05:30 PM (Ekky5)

25 9 The GOPe doesn't care as they are in secure districts and states. The NY GOP has a problem (besides being useless) that there is a case pending that could overturn the congressional districts drawn after the Hochulmander. It could wipe out the gains made in last election, which is why the GOP is in charge of House
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 05, 2023 05:23 PM

# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #

How'd this case get started?

Posted by: geewhiz at May 05, 2023 05:31 PM (65K9+)

26 "A forecast from one widely regarded scientist pegged the risk at a more alarming level, suggesting a 40 percent chance of an omicron-like wave.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy"

90% chance it happens about 10 months before the election.

Posted by: fd at May 05, 2023 05:31 PM (iayUP)

27 oh boy, the daily trump/desantis.

um, look guys...this is moot.

trump's going to be bludgened to esptein in a dc-gulag in a month.

which is fine bc denatis has that candidate quality we've heard so much about

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 05, 2023 05:31 PM (MLrvz)

28 So eve if Trump would win legitimately, it won't matter because they are absolutely determined to stop him. And even if some of the cheating is called out, it won't matter because the GOP establishment, Fox News, etc. won't stand up for Trump either.

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Fun fact : fox has already called Arizona for Biden.

Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 05:32 PM (Ekky5)

29 And if a Republican wins? What then?

Another slow-rolling coup?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2023 05:32 PM (EZebt)

30 Andrew Bailey, the MO AG, showed an impressive level of very passionate anger, when discussing the St. Louis DA. I couldn’t remember the last time I saw an angry Republican, who actually accomplished a goal. Can we please clone more of him?

Posted by: EveR at May 05, 2023 05:32 PM (MUpk6)

31 hey, so yeah, the new evidence/crime free standard the democrats have given themselves in their billion dollar quest to send republicans to jail, you know that thing?

that's going to be a problem. no wink, no nod.

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 05, 2023 05:32 PM (MLrvz)

32 related:

>> If leftist shock troops want to burn city centers to the ground, ...

Why is there no outrage over the pallets of bricks left before riots?
Why is there no outrage over the lack of investigation?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 05, 2023 05:33 PM (DM3oU)

33 Another slow-rolling coup?

///

ain't nothing gonna be slow.

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 05, 2023 05:33 PM (MLrvz)

34 forecast from one widely regarded scientist pegged the risk at a more alarming level, suggesting a 40 percent chance of an omicron-like wave.
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Hahaha

And just like from 2019 to now, the only way anyone would know is their constant reminding everyone of the cold virus.

Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 05:33 PM (Ekky5)

35
Trump/DeSantis beats Biden/Harris by nearly 10 points per polling of a major legitimate polling firm. After careful calculations on the back of my dinner napkin I've determined the fraud can not be cranked up that high for Biden/Harris. So therefore I guarantee the election in 2024 will be neither Trump/DeSantis or Biden/Harris.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2023 05:33 PM (enJYY)

36 Bill Barr predicts 'horror show' if Trump re-elected, warns he will 'deliver chaos'

.. I think that is a feature, not a bug

Posted by: SMOD at May 05, 2023 05:34 PM (jsVJ0)

37
2. related.

I wonder if the Left made a conscious decision to try to split the right back when they started funding the pseudo-Republicans?

I was always dubious why the Left Billionaires would fund people claiming to be Republicans when most Republicans hated them and saw what they were. But what if their justification was to split the right long term - to make more 3rd party candidates (how Clinton won twice) and not so much to influence people.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 05, 2023 05:35 PM (DM3oU)

38 On the bright side, comedians could make comedy acts again.

Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 05:36 PM (Ekky5)

39 Couldn't help yourself, huh Ace? You just had to take a swipe at Trump near the end, didn't you? Sadly that's typical of you now.

What the Hemingways said is correct but the Republicans aren't going to do anything about it, because they're a part of it.

Open your eyes!

Posted by: Tracy at May 05, 2023 05:36 PM (eo+G8)

40 Napoleon Bonaparte had nothing to do with the Thermidorean Reaction of 1794 and was himself briefly imprisoned in the wake of Robespierre's downfall.

He did save the Directory from an insurrection in 1795, due to being an artillery expert and on hand in Paris, and later carried out the coup of 1799 that established the Consulate with himself as First Consul (effectively dictator).

Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at May 05, 2023 05:37 PM (wVxq9)

41 I am sure we are screwed in 2024 and pray to be wrong.
Sweeping 2020 vote fraud under the rug is going to get you it again harder in 2024.

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2023 05:37 PM (xhxe8)

42 "I wonder if the Left made a conscious decision to try to split the right back when they started funding the pseudo-Republicans?"

That goes all the way back to Lenin who said "The only way to control the opposition is to become the opposition."

Posted by: gourmand du jour, making split pea soup at May 05, 2023 05:37 PM (jTmQV)

43 I sincerely think if Trump has the nation in mind first, and not his ego, he would declare he's dropping out of the race in favor of DeSantis... and he's gonna be Veep in charge of dismantling the Deep State.

Posted by: MkY at May 05, 2023 05:37 PM (cPGH3)

44 Y'all dumb sheep...
Posted by: Goper at May 05, 2023 05:28 PM (bQ/0

Wouldn't it be grammatically correct to say ""Y'all are dumb sheep?"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 05, 2023 05:37 PM (Keyt1)

45 "I keep waiting for the Thermodorian Reaction here in the hellscape called America."

Etch it on USA's tombstone.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at May 05, 2023 05:37 PM (Oka5v)

46 "The problems are pressing and dire, and the best time to start working on these structural challenges was about 50 years ago. The second best time is now."

Umm, not sure if we are going to vote our way out of this mess. Too far gone. Divorce would be nice, but not happening either. The left/commies/marxists want us enslaved or dead. When do the commies ever compromise or ask for forgiveness? They don't.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at May 05, 2023 05:37 PM (M5J6O)

47
That article scared the shyte out of me because it voiced my worst fears.

Also, Trump HAS said that the Repubs need to get into ballot harvesting.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2023 05:38 PM (lCaJd)

48 Let's cut to the chase. Elections are a festival for the majority, and I despise each and every one of these gentlemen. Vote for YD, and for pitiless retribution.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 05, 2023 05:38 PM (oINRc)

49 Will they demonize a non-Trump Republican candidate? Of course they will. But they only have about 18 months to do it, and whatever they say, he (or she) will not be as demonized as the guy they've been working over for 8 years (by election time).
Posted by: Rusty Trawler at May 05, 2023 05:29 PM (1gif2)

At the end of the day, anyone claiming to be more "electable" at minimum needs to show the vast support base that can come close to Donald Trump's 75 million+ votes. I'm sure any number of people want to be the next Bush/ Romney, but that just shows the NeverTrump grifters and their wannabe lackeys haven't learned anything.

Not that I'm worried, because Ron DeSantis is running exactly the kind of campaign Vichy consultants would tell him to run. Raise obscene money, let the PACs do all the heavy lifting, re-invent yourself as a Severe Conservative, triangulate in the general, lose with "honor." Except it's dumber than usual, because they expect us to believe Mr. Six-Week abortion ban is going to do great with suburban women. Sure, Trump said pussy, but someone that desperate for evangelical votes isn't going anywhere.

Posted by: trev006 at May 05, 2023 05:38 PM (78UcJ)

50 What troubles me is how blatantly obvious this is, how clearly this is fact and yet nobody seem to do anything about it, and even here you get sweet but naive people who just reject the truth of this.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 05, 2023 05:38 PM (0hOvj)

51 GOP proved they didn’t want to win nor did they care about stolen elections when they gave Ronna Romney a fourth chance to obliterate the party.

Posted by: EveR at May 05, 2023 05:38 PM (MUpk6)

52
I sincerely think if Trump has the nation in mind first, and not his ego, he would declare he's dropping out of the race in favor of DeSantis... and he's gonna be Veep in charge of dismantling the Deep State.
Posted by: MkY

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As the article points out, it doesn't matter who the R nominee is in this environment of fraud.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2023 05:39 PM (lCaJd)

53 Agreed.

So what do we do about it, exactly?

Conduct our own ballot-harvesting operations? Or try to pass laws on the state level to make the fraud more difficult? And what kind of laws? And what about the judicial route? Should we even try to fight it out there?

I agree with everything the Hemingways say in that article, but I'd like a little less "Nothing will change unless we do X" and a little more "Here's how we can do X."

Posted by: Dr. T at May 05, 2023 05:39 PM (tp+tP)

54
The people in the squishy middle HAVE to realize that a vote for Biden/Harris is a vote for President Harris. How well did she do in her home state in the (D) primary?

I'd really, really like to think that my fellow Americans are not that incredibly dumb.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2023 05:39 PM (enJYY)

55 ,AI ChatBot ShainGPT rates this headline as "Mostly True."

Posted by: ShainS at May 05, 2023 05:39 PM (WwKfB)

56 If even one Republican district reports any returns until the Dems have completely reported theirs, the R's are too stupid to continue as a viable party, which is likely true anyway.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 05, 2023 05:39 PM (cupoy)

57 "They were the model for all subsequent purges. They purged everyone. Every single one of their allies went to the guillotines, eventually. First the Republicans, those who wanted to keep the king, but within a constitutional order in which his powers were checked. Then the Girondists, who were anti-monarchists but who didn't want to murder everyone in the nobility. Then the leftists. Then the hard leftists."

Those fellows provided Lenin a ready-made plan.

Posted by: Zombie Trotsky at May 05, 2023 05:41 PM (AMIL/)

58
they expect us to believe Mr. Six-Week abortion ban is going to do great with suburban women. Sure, Trump said pussy, but someone that desperate for evangelical votes isn't going anywhere.
Posted by: trev006

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Brave of you to post that, and I concur.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2023 05:41 PM (lCaJd)

59 sincerely think if Trump has the nation in mind first, and not his ego, he would declare he's dropping out of the race in favor of DeSantis

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And vice versa.

Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 05:41 PM (Ekky5)

60 And if a Republican wins? What then?

Another slow-rolling coup?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2023 05:32 PM (EZebt)

Maybe a lot faster. They didn't have to steal 2022 for a moronic vegetable, but the oligarchs were not going to take a chance that a Republican Congress might actually find its testicles.

Now things are going into the bottom half of the genocide checklist in a country facing economic collapse. Sucks for unprepared urbanites, but what can you do? It almost makes you welcome the Chinese absolutely humiliating NATO globally, as they've done for a year.

Posted by: trev006 at May 05, 2023 05:41 PM (78UcJ)

61 If nothing else a resurgence of DJT could be more scorched earth policy since he was burned .

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2023 05:41 PM (xhxe8)

62 dont forget we need to let a green candidate get on the ballot too.

they really started hard to make sure we have an Indepednent on every ballot but never a greenie

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 05, 2023 05:41 PM (MLrvz)

63
So what do we do about it, exactly?

Conduct our own ballot-harvesting operations?

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That's exactly what Trump says.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2023 05:41 PM (lCaJd)

64 We allowed this to happen. But we allowed it because stopping it would be outside the Liberty-guarding order we have enjoyed for so long. Plus it would be ugly.

Posted by: Emmie at May 05, 2023 05:41 PM (tfEd7)

65 Trump will be either in court or jail come Nov. 2024. They aren't giving up on getting him.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2023 05:42 PM (jzzG8)

66 Ignorant, unmotivated and…dead voters.
Also ones in a care facility who are either forced to vote Democrat or it’s just done for them.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2023 05:42 PM (vgOxl)

67 So, how is this supposed to happen when the donks control the mechanisms for reining this in in the states we need to win?

(Sorry if the question was already asked, or the answer is at the link. I can't possibly be expected to check out ALL the content before posting!)

Posted by: McLurkerson at May 05, 2023 05:42 PM (wNDOJ)

68 Instapundit had this video last week by Flappr about The French Revolution. It is funny and very well done. Long, but really worth the time. It's almost two years old and only has 17k views, which is a shame. They also have videos on China and The Russian Revolution that I'm going to watch. I love this guy's style.

https://youtu.be/1oP94f_ANM4

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 05, 2023 05:42 PM (xPl2J)

69 On the bright side, comedians could make comedy acts again.
Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 05:36 PM (Ekky5)

Yeah. I still can't believe no one, not one comedian, comedy show, cartoon, etc is making fun of Preezy Joe Biden.

Wholly Kau, that guy is just a walking collection of comedy tropes- the stupid, corrupt leader, the chest-puffing poltroon, the senile leader, the creepy, hair sniffing kiddie fetishist, the over-confident goofball, and many, many more!!!

Talk about a gift.

Every single one of the comedians and comedy writers should be fired cuz they sure as hell don't know their job.

Sad.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 05, 2023 05:42 PM (RJQ8g)

70 Election integrity? Not the hill to die on! It will turn off the suburban women!

Culture war? Not the hill to die on! It will turn off the suburban wine women!

Tranny kids? Not the hill to die on! It will turn off the suburban wine bitches!

Border security? Not the hill to die on! It will turn off the suburban awfls!

Crime and soft prosecutors? Not the hill to die on! It will turn off the Suburban chardonnay cunts!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 05, 2023 05:43 PM (hXpNS)

71 Ooops, that video link was from me, not Joe Biden.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 05, 2023 05:43 PM (xPl2J)

72 My theory is that the GOPe is hostile to any attempts to clean up elections because if the extent of not just fraud, but incompetence and mismanagement was known, it would raise doubts about every elected position.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 05, 2023 05:43 PM (GDw8p)

73 I'm crossing over to vote for RFK, Jr. in the primaries, then whoever the Constitution Party drafts as a candidate.

I'll still vote Republican at the state and local level.

I can't bring myself to support the national GOP anymore. It's let me down too many times to count.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 05, 2023 05:43 PM (nPN2F)

74 it's just so weird to see how useless the gop is after all this time. we used to be a major political party.

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 05, 2023 05:43 PM (MLrvz)

75 The moment Trump was charged was when the entire bunch should've stepped up and said "this is outlandish, illegal behavior that does nothing except show that the concerns about the deep state were justified. He's my candidate and I support him fully."

Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 05:44 PM (Ekky5)

76 Knouts and swords will be involved, and there will be generous subsidies for the provision of these items to my pitiless horde of retributors. I just want that point to be clear, in case some of you might be the thinking "I'd vote for YD, but how could I afford all my retribution stuff?"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 05, 2023 05:44 PM (oINRc)

77 One of the easiest things to investigate are pallets of bricks.

- bought locally since no one drives such a truck interstate. (possible, but unlikely)

- limited places sell pallets of bricks. They all have cameras and legitimate sales tracking.

- Truck would need a special crane to drop on side of road like that. Very few of these in any city and all traceable.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 05, 2023 05:44 PM (DM3oU)

78
Except it's dumber than usual, because they expect us to believe Mr. Six-Week abortion ban is going to do great with suburban women.

Posted by: trev006 at May 05, 2023 05:38 PM

If DeSantis doesn't realize he's fumbling the football into his own endzone with 'six weeks' then he's too dumb for me to spend a single moment supporting. 'Heartbeat' works.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2023 05:44 PM (enJYY)

79 I agree with everything the Hemingways say in that article, but I'd like a little less "Nothing will change unless we do X" and a little more "Here's how we can do X."
Posted by: Dr. T at May 05, 2023 05:39 PM (tp+tP)
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There are 2 issues here:
1.) The Republican party, on the whole, does not want to change things. This should be self-evident by now.

2.) As Breitbart said, politics is downstream from culture. Our entire culture is fucked up. Merely switching out pieces on the game board (voting) is futile, and that is if voting even works any more. Yes, you might get some people in there who are decent, but the entire game itself must be overhauled.

This is a long-term problem that will never be fixed in our lifetime, if at all.

Posted by: Charles Nelson Reilly at May 05, 2023 05:45 PM (/DTlP)

80 I agree with everything the Hemingways say in that article, but I'd like a little less "Nothing will change unless we do X" and a little more "Here's how we can do X."
Posted by: Dr. T

I think some of the hesitancy on the motivated anti-establishment is due to not wanting to describe the gameplan before it's ready ( hey, let me have my dreams, dood ) The Left will launch a 1000 suits to stop every plan in its infancy, and probably every NeverTrumper minstrel outfit as well.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2023 05:45 PM (jzzG8)

81 So, how is this supposed to happen when the donks control the mechanisms for reining this in in the states we need to win?
-

Turns out the electoral college is five cities.

Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 05:45 PM (Ekky5)

82 one widely regarded scientist

...

I'm widely regarded too you know

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 05, 2023 05:45 PM (z9npv)

83 "I keep waiting for the Thermodorian Reaction here in the hellscape called America."

Etch it on USA's tombstone.
Posted by: Dark Helmet at May 05, 2023 05:37 PM (Oka5v)

Everyone's waiting for someone else to go first.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 05, 2023 05:45 PM (tp+tP)

84 I could hear more about dragging these assholes out of city hall and cutting their heads off....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at May 05, 2023 05:45 PM (xcxpd)

85 As a American Thinker article this morning and JJ's take , the swing states are all lost now to the heavy handed Democrats.
Mail fraud votes from motor voter, Arizona prints fake ballots for Republican areas, it's a mess and it will happen again.

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2023 05:46 PM (xhxe8)

86 72 My theory is that the GOPe is hostile to any attempts to clean up elections because if the extent of not just fraud, but incompetence and mismanagement was known, it would raise doubts about every elected position.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

Why would they want to change a system that already elected them????

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 05, 2023 05:46 PM (DM3oU)

87 Very good article. But it’s too kind and misses the really big smelly hobo in the room: fraud. It’s not that the leftists are out-hustling us in terms of ballot harvesting and get out the vote. They are. But what’s really going on here is that Dumocraps are straight-up just printing their own fake ballots. They wait and see what the returns are looking like on Election Day, and then print up as many fake ballots on the fly as needed. They’re barely even trying to hide it.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 05, 2023 05:46 PM (INaSe)

88 I'm convinced the best way to handle this is to let Trump draw all the fire for '24, take the loss of presidency, and focus on increasing the House lead and picking up the senate. Take the next four years focusing on swing state legislatures and govs to unfuck the VEFT operations, then let DarthSantis run in '28. Trump will be dead or in prison by then. Of course, if the latter, we'll probably be in a hot civil war by that point, in which case, YOLO!

Posted by: McLurkerson at May 05, 2023 05:46 PM (wNDOJ)

89 It is imperative that the GOP nominates a candidate who doesn't upset the left enough to steal the election.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 05, 2023 05:46 PM (hXpNS)

90 Well stated as per this article and post. And anyone who follows this blog and does some extracurricular reading on this subject has known this was going on since shortly after the last election.

I surely support trying to drag this back to sanity (it's our only hope) but it is likely too late.

The system is already entrenched and has been successful. The vast majority of government employees are (mostly pretty hardcore) Democrats. All the institutions, tech, woke big business, etc. are vested and will resist change. The President is all in. And our purported representatives that we've elected in the GOP seem totally fine being the Washington Generals.

And after solving this, well, uh, let's see how easy it is to change the voting patterns of the Millennials and Generation Z.

Hate to be such a downer, but there it is.

Posted by: RM at May 05, 2023 05:47 PM (0eYOS)

91 I'm widely regarded too you know
Posted by: Sandra Fluke

I'm just wide.

Posted by: Gonah Joldberg at May 05, 2023 05:47 PM (jzzG8)

92 Since 2020, at least 17 states have passed laws making private funding of elections illegal.
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The Golden Rule: he who has the gold makes the rules.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2023 05:47 PM (EZebt)

93 Brave of you to post that, and I concur.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2023 05:41 PM (lCaJd)

Don't get me wrong, I think abortion is generally bad. The sheer hatred of the simple decentralization of abortion and the end of Roe would be shocking even to me. Except, of course, I know there are spiritual and financial reasons for the blood drinker oligarchs to harvest fetal organs.

But the whole conceit of picking another candidate is that they're more "electable" than the guy who made a 10 million plus improvement on his vote totals. We no longer have to do that: the grifters are mad, but they're paid to be mad.

For now, anyways. I suspect that if they turfed out Tucker Carlson, the oligarchs are sending word down the line: if Conservative Inc. can't get their boy to the nomination, then they can afford to stop subsidizing operations like Town Hall and The Daily Wire.

Posted by: trev006 at May 05, 2023 05:47 PM (78UcJ)

94 oh, right.

they still have that guy going to jail for 10 years right? The one who memed?

yeah, the left seems like a swell bunch of people interested in justice.

let's checkin on their concern for cops, like the habboobe girl lawyer who molotoved a cop car. oh...zero.

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 05, 2023 05:47 PM (MLrvz)

95 I sincerely think if Trump has the nation in mind first, and not his ego, he would declare he's dropping out of the race in favor of DeSantis... and he's gonna be Veep in charge of dismantling the Deep State.

Posted by: MkY at May 05, 2023 05:37 PM

There is 100+ years of Civil Service and case law out there in regards to federal government agencies and employees, no one is ever going to dismantle anything it simply is not possible at this point and if someone promises you they are going to do it they are either naive or lying.

Never gonna happen even if we had ten trump's in a row elected president.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 05, 2023 05:48 PM (ncXxy)

96
2.) As Breitbart said, politics is downstream from culture....
Posted by: Charles Nelson Reilly at May 05, 2023 05:45 PM (/DTlP)

And as I keep saying: culture is downstream of technology.

The change in culture is driven by technology, and the Right has lost control of that.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 05, 2023 05:48 PM (DM3oU)

97 "Since 2020, at least 17 states have passed laws making private funding of elections illegal."

Fine. What are the monitoring and enforcement plans, and what are the punishments? I'm from Missouri about these laws significantly hampering the Left's billionaire supporter and Lawfare armies in 2024.

Posted by: Gref at May 05, 2023 05:48 PM (AMIL/)

98 "Why does the retribution need to be so pitiless," you might ask.

Don't be such a fag.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 05, 2023 05:48 PM (oINRc)

99 No standing because it's not election day. Or something.
Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 05:27 PM (Ekky5

And then moot afterwards.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 05, 2023 05:48 PM (O6NhO)

100 That's exactly what Trump says.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2023 05:41 PM (lCaJd)

If it works. Personally, I have my suspicions that the minute any Republican starts engaging in ballot-harvesting, they'll be nabbed, paraded in public as a THREAT TO DEMOCRACY and probably a Russian agent, and thrown in the gulag with the J6 political prisoners.

But fine. If it can be done, fine. Anything would be better than just another stream of editorials.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 05, 2023 05:48 PM (tp+tP)

101 The problem is Trump made so many ridiculous claims that nobody takes voter fraud seriously anymore.

Once he went down the road of nonsense like servers getting hacked by Venezuela , it became a joke.

Voter fraud is real, and mail in ballots made it way easier than having to bus people in like they did in the old days.

Posted by: Audio at May 05, 2023 05:49 PM (ZJzf8)

102 I could hear more about dragging these assholes out of city hall and cutting their heads off....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at May 05, 2023 05:45 PM (xcxpd)
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What about the part where Napoleon takes out a small number of the vanguard and the executions stopped.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2023 05:49 PM (EZebt)

103 The biggest impediments to reform are the state parties which benefits from the fraud in their primaries, keeping "bad" Republicans out.

We lie and call it euphemistically "constituents service"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 05, 2023 05:50 PM (5EnGD)

104 "I'm widely regarded too you know
Posted by: Sandra Fluke"

That's "regaled".

Posted by: fd at May 05, 2023 05:50 PM (iayUP)

105 The really fun part is when people realize the illegals are turning Texas and Florida purple, and that's been the plan for decades. It's why the wall had to be stopped.

You ain't seen nuthin yet.

Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 05:50 PM (Ekky5)

106 osted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2023 05:47 PM
Now do Dominion's private vote counting

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2023 05:50 PM (xhxe8)

107 The people in the squishy middle HAVE to realize that a vote for Biden/Harris is a vote for President Harris. How well did she do in her home state in the (D) primary?

I'd really, really like to think that my fellow Americans are not that incredibly dumb.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2023 05:39 PM (enJYY)

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As the new Artificial Intelligence Czar, Kamala will takeover elections and leave the tabulation of ballots to DominionGPT.

Posted by: ShainS at May 05, 2023 05:50 PM (ECS54)

108 Yay, audio is back!

Good to see you again, audio. We missed you on every non Trump thread.

Do you get some type of text alert?

Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 05:51 PM (Ekky5)

109 - Truck would need a special crane to drop on side of road like that. Very few of these in any city and all traceable.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 05, 2023 05:44 PM (DM3oU)

Every lumber yard has a picker truck, and so do a host of other businesses. And you can rent them, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2023 05:51 PM (tkR6S)

110 Good to see you again, audio. We missed you on every non Trump thread.

Do you get some type of text alert?
Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 05:51 PM (Ekky5)

*snort*

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 05, 2023 05:51 PM (aD39U)

111 I think some of the hesitancy on the motivated anti-establishment is due to not wanting to describe the gameplan before it's ready ( hey, let me have my dreams, dood ) The Left will launch a 1000 suits to stop every plan in its infancy, and probably every NeverTrumper minstrel outfit as well.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2023 05:45 PM (jzzG

*starts to type*

Okay, I'll let you have your dreams. But if there is a secret gameplan, I hope all the right people are briefed on it first.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 05, 2023 05:51 PM (tp+tP)

112 Why isn’t Donald Trump making this his signature issue? It’s barely passing interest for him anymore.

I’d like to think if I was a billionaire and I had an election stolen. This would be my cause from here on out.

If only Trump could devote as much energy towards getting rid of voter fraud as he does DeSantis.

Posted by: Audio at May 05, 2023 05:52 PM (ZJzf8)

113 “Politics is downstream of culture.” Well that explains why the left has been dumping raw sewage in that stream for decades.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 05, 2023 05:52 PM (Evdfk)

114 Huh?

Our 30 second ad will negate their 24 straight hours of lies and propaganda.

Posted by: Gope at May 05, 2023 05:52 PM (KU7J0)

115 I surely support trying to drag this back to sanity (it's our only hope) but it is likely too late.

Hate to be such a downer, but there it is.
Posted by: RM a

I agree with your whole comment.

I think we need to keep trying. Not because it will work, but because that is what we have to do.

I think change will only come after a financial crisis so bad it leads to cities and states defaulting, triple digit inflation of dollar, and then war. But what do I know.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 05, 2023 05:52 PM (DM3oU)

116 Every child deserves to inflict their pitiless retribution on their vanquished foes. Why do my opponents hate children so? It disgusts me.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 05, 2023 05:52 PM (oINRc)

117 Our 30 second ad will negate their 24 straight hours of lies and propaganda.
Posted by: Gope at May 05, 2023 05:52 PM (KU7J0)

The one that runs exclusively on Fox News?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 05, 2023 05:53 PM (aD39U)

118 Yay, audio is back!

Good to see you again, audio. We missed you on every non Trump thread.

Do you get some type of text alert?

Heh.

At least they've got comment harvesting figured out.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 05, 2023 05:53 PM (nPN2F)

119 Andrew Bailey, the MO AG, showed an impressive level of very passionate anger, when discussing the St. Louis DA. I couldn’t remember the last time I saw an angry Republican, who actually accomplished a goal. Can we please clone more of him?
Posted by: EveR at May 05, 2023 05:32 PM (MUpk6)

Too Trumpian.

-GOPe

Seriously, though, you need an electorate like MO to get someone like that. No pandering needed here, though they do it. And when Schmitt or Bailey go national, the establishment idiots will crow about "electability" to get someone else that they can control.

Posted by: Catherine at May 05, 2023 05:53 PM (ZSsrh)

120 If DeSantis doesn't realize he's fumbling the football into his own endzone with 'six weeks' then he's too dumb for me to spend a single moment supporting. 'Heartbeat' works.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2023 05:44 PM (enJYY)

That is the fucking insane part! Florida had an abortion law at 24 weeks until RDS decided he wanted to be President. 16 weeks was the law signed before the election, and I thought it was just fine. I can see how people might want to set the date earlier or later, but Florida isn't Oklahoma or even Indiana. They have to account for Miami, Orlando, and any number of urban hot spots.

But six weeks? That's not genuine Christian fundamentalism. That's Karl Rove telling RDS "look, your internals are dogshit and you're behind Mike Pence. Sign yet another abortion law and hopefully the mouthbreathers will be suckered. And don't fuck this up, because if Trumo gets the nom AGAIN the donors will happily let Disney kill you. Is he joking? Ha ha. Get it done."

Posted by: trev006 at May 05, 2023 05:53 PM (78UcJ)

121 The republican nominee needs a strong platform of capital gains tax cuts and free trade agreements.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 05, 2023 05:54 PM (hXpNS)

122 35 Trump/DeSantis beats Biden/Harris by nearly 10 points per polling of a major legitimate polling firm. After careful calculations on the back of my dinner napkin I've determined the fraud can not be cranked up that high for Biden/Harris. So therefore I guarantee the election in 2024 will be neither Trump/DeSantis or Biden/Harris.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2023 05:33 PM (enJYY)

Dude here gets it. The powers that be are going to try to get Trump and DeSantis to destroy each other in the primary, so whichever D gets put up only has to deal with either a mortally wounded campaign or some tool like Romney. And Slow Joe And The Ho will most likely get dealt with, one way or another.

Posted by: CppThis at May 05, 2023 05:54 PM (PZvjL)

123 Every lumber yard has a picker truck, and so do a host of other businesses. And you can rent them, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

That is my point - these are a limited and investigateable set of trucks. And most businesses with one would not want to destroy the city they are in.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 05, 2023 05:54 PM (DM3oU)

124 The republican nominee needs a strong platform of capital gains tax cuts and free trade agreements.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 05, 2023 05:54 PM (hXpNS)

Harrumph.

Posted by: Opportunity Zones at May 05, 2023 05:55 PM (aD39U)

125 Okay, I'll let you have your dreams. But if there is a secret gameplan, I hope all the right people are briefed on it first.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 05, 2023 05:51 PM (tp+tP)

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Can we haz sniperz among the right people, pleaze?

Posted by: ShainS at May 05, 2023 05:55 PM (ECS54)

126 The GOP is far more focused on keeping donors happy then on winning elections.

Posted by: 29Victor at May 05, 2023 05:55 PM (BJKQV)

127 The only way I see this getting fixed is the Supreme Court steps in and says the Constitution outlines a voting day only.

99% of the problems get solved.

Posted by: Audio at May 05, 2023 05:55 PM (ZJzf8)

128 121 The republican nominee needs a strong platform of capital gains tax cuts and free trade agreements.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 05, 2023 05:54 PM (hXpNS)

YES!!!

Finally someone gets it.

Back to basics! These are the issues voters care about.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 05, 2023 05:56 PM (nPN2F)

129 29 And if a Republican wins? What then?

Another slow-rolling coup?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 05, 2023 05:32 PM (EZebt)

No doubt about it. All of the rubes still believe the Russia, Russia, Russia propaganda. So it will be easy-peasy to fabricate Trump issues requiring another Special Counsel or two. Especially if the Ukraine War is still stalemated. I'll bet my house the Leftists are working on a number of ways to hamstring DeSantis, beginning before he's is inaugurated.

Posted by: Gref at May 05, 2023 05:56 PM (AMIL/)

130

I swear on a modest stack of Bibles I made my comment BEFORE I saw this:

Nikki Haley Goes There: A Vote For Joe Biden Is Really A Vote For President Harris

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2023 05:57 PM (enJYY)

131 At some point the left is going just start ignoring SCOTUS, and that point has already happened.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 05, 2023 05:57 PM (Evdfk)

132 We live in a country where the overall economy is awash in dollars, but pitiless retribution is nowhere to be found. Who will close our retribution gap?

YD, that's who.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 05, 2023 05:57 PM (oINRc)

133 Instapundit had this video last week by Flappr about The French Revolution. It is funny and very well done. Long, but really worth the time. It's almost two years old and only has 17k views, which is a shame. They also have videos on China and The Russian Revolution that I'm going to watch. I love this guy's style.

https://youtu.be/1oP94f_ANM4
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 05, 2023 05:42 PM (xPl2J)

_____________

Glad to see someone else posting that here. laughed myself into several coughing fits. The humor sustains well.

Posted by: McLurkerson at May 05, 2023 05:57 PM (wNDOJ)

134 Dude here gets it. The powers that be are going to try to get Trump and DeSantis to destroy each other in the primary, so whichever D gets put up only has to deal with either a mortally wounded campaign or some tool like Romney. And Slow Joe And The Ho will most likely get dealt with, one way or another.

Posted by: CppThis at May 05, 2023 05:54 PM

Yep just like trump cost the republicans the senate by telling everyone to stay home in the Georgia senate runoff race because the election was rigged and their votes would not count. A huge own goal by trump and he never stopped to think about what he was saying , he can't help it and the democrats will use that to destroy him.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 05, 2023 05:58 PM (ncXxy)

135
This is a long-term problem that will never be fixed in our lifetime, if at all.
Posted by: Charles Nelson Reilly at May 05, 2023 05:45 PM (/DTlP)

Step 1: Stop Digging - We have to cut off unlimited funds to Universities. That's a big chunk of stagnant water in which the pestilence is breeding.

Step 2: Programming decisions are made by people who live in a community. The tranny thing popped up simultaneously to programming decisions moving from NYC/LA to Silicon Valley/San Francisco. We need some version of Musk dropping a billion to fund Tucker Carlson founding a network in Omaha.

Step 3: ???

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 05, 2023 05:58 PM (cupoy)

136
In order to unrig any future election, we have to have elected folks that want to do that.

No gots.
Posted by: Tonypete

It would be like expecting them to pass term limits.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 05, 2023 05:58 PM (63Dwl)

137 Every lumber yard has a picker truck, and so do a host of other businesses. And you can rent them, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Do they do noses ?

Posted by: JT at May 05, 2023 05:59 PM (T4tVD)

138 they still have that guy going to jail for 10 years right? The one who memed?

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 05, 2023 05:47 PM (MLrvz)

I have no idea how a Floridian like Ricky Vaughn can be prosecuted by SDNY, but I'm grateful it happened. It's the clearest retrospective warning that federal pardons for the January 6th patriots would have been a terrible idea, and why the people who still insist on it are absolutely uninformed assholes.

Posted by: trev006 at May 05, 2023 05:59 PM (78UcJ)

139 "There's some argument made about it not mattering if we nominate Trump or DeSantis. I don't agree with that -- I believe that Trump brings his own special set of problems to any election above and beyond the left's eagerness to rig them against him -- but I definitely agree we need to do something about all the #Rigging."

Unless DeSantis is already compromised by the Deep State, there's no way they'd allow him to win, either. Don't kid yourself - Trump is the REAL danger to these guys, according to the way they demonize him, no matter what.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 05, 2023 05:59 PM (Mzdiz)

140 This... filed under "duh."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 05, 2023 06:00 PM (Q4IgG)

141 87 Very good article. But it’s too kind and misses the really big smelly hobo in the room: fraud. It’s not that the leftists are out-hustling us in terms of ballot harvesting and get out the vote. They are. But what’s really going on here is that Dumocraps are straight-up just printing their own fake ballots. ...
Posted by: Elric Blade

The whole "Dominion switched votes" line was a head fake to discredit the opposition from the reality that:

Dominion controlled the system and created registrations telling the Democrats what ballots to print.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 05, 2023 06:01 PM (DM3oU)

142 That is my point - these are a limited and investigateable set of trucks. And most businesses with one would not want to destroy the city they are in.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 05, 2023 05:54 PM (DM3oU)

There are probably several thousand of them in any major city. It would probably take less manpower to maintain a 24/7 watch on areas where riots are likely to be staged, and swoop down and interrogate any trucker dropping a skid of bricks where none were ordered. Demand he show his paperwork for the load. No papers? He gets a bullet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2023 06:01 PM (tkR6S)

143
No doubt about it. All of the rubes still believe the Russia, Russia, Russia propaganda. So it will be easy-peasy to fabricate Trump issues requiring another Special Counsel or two. Especially if the Ukraine War is still stalemated. I'll bet my house the Leftists are working on a number of ways to hamstring DeSantis, beginning before he's is inaugurated.
Posted by: Gref at May 05, 2023 05:56 PM (AMIL/)

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Republican will be accused of rape.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 05, 2023 06:01 PM (cupoy)

144 Step 3: ???

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 05, 2023 05:58 PM (cupoy)

Profit?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 05, 2023 06:03 PM (Mzdiz)

145 Faith. Family. Pitiless retribution.

Values voters have no other choice... but the knout.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 05, 2023 06:03 PM (oINRc)

146 131 At some point the left is going just start ignoring SCOTUS, and that point has already happened.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 05, 2023 05:57 PM (Evdfk)

Didn't the Pennsylvania courts tell SCOTUS to go take a hike in 2020?

Posted by: Gref at May 05, 2023 06:04 PM (AMIL/)

147 134 Yep just like trump cost the republicans the senate by telling everyone to stay home in the Georgia senate runoff race because the election was rigged and their votes would not count. A huge own goal by trump and he never stopped to think about what he was saying , he can't help it and the democrats will use that to destroy him.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 05, 2023 05:58 PM (ncXxy)

The fundamental problem with The Golden Scalpweasel, the one that underpins all the other problems from rhetorical own-goals to bad staffing, is that he can't not have everything be about him. It's driven him to do many great and impressive things over the years, but it's also a big weakness that's increasingly being exploited for big gainzz by all and sundry.

Posted by: CppThis at May 05, 2023 06:04 PM (PZvjL)

148 interrogate any trucker dropping a skid of bricks where none were ordered. Demand he show his paperwork for the load. No papers? He gets a bullet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2023 06:01 PM (tkR6S)

I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 05, 2023 06:05 PM (Mzdiz)

149 22
'So eve if Trump would win legitimately, it won't matter because they are absolutely determined to stop him. '

No GOP president will matter if they are not willing to:
Jail democrats,
Shut down the government until spending cuts are achieved,
Use force to put down leftist 'protests'

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 05, 2023 06:05 PM (roH4R)

150 Andrew Bailey, the MO AG, showed an impressive level of very passionate anger, when discussing the St. Louis DA.

Eeeeeeeeeesh. The suburban wine whores are gonna be turned off by that!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 05, 2023 06:05 PM (Ih9rg)

151 Oh, are we doing the "I believe the polls" thing again? As near as I can tell, the Horde's position on polling is whenever there's one we want to believe we do, even though mere posts ago we were decrying how they are all wrong, often purposely so. We need a Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory that resolves this thorny issue.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at May 05, 2023 06:05 PM (KFhLj)

152 Welp, after frolicking about Ireland a week ago, I think I see the future of how this is going to go.

So, when Michael Collins got the Republic of Ireland for peace, he said of the treaty "Welp, y'all aren't going to be happy with this, but it's the best we can get." By which, he meant that there would still be six counties under British control, ie. Northern Ireland.

Flash forward a few years and there are Protestant areas and Catholic areas and mixed areas in Northern Ireland. And by and large things aren't perfect but okay. Think of this as pre-Woke USA.

Buuuuuut, IIRC some a-hole like Ian Paisley gets it into his head that the Protestants need to dominate and violently start burning down the Catholic areas and mugging and in general driving the Catholics out.
Which is sorta kinda where we are with the Democrats and Biden right now.

So, the Catholics get fed up pretty damn quickly as the Brit soldiers who are sent into protect the Catholic areas, don't. And so, the Catholics start in with the bombs and sniping and everything else. This is the probably near future of civil war, shootshovelshutup, that we may be in for. Not that I want it or support the (con't)

Posted by: naturalfake at May 05, 2023 06:06 PM (RJQ8g)

153 Geraldo is trending on Twitter because of this and he may be out at Fox.

"Bill Barr Torches Former Boss Trump: ‘It’s a Horror Show When He’s Left To His Own Devices’"

https://tinyurl.com/3bwv25d9

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2023 06:06 PM (NpAcC)

154 The Hemingway's are spot on in their analysis of how the Democrats have hijacked national elections through their corrupt and often illegal ballot harvesting. The first major incident that I observed was the 2004 Washington State Governor's race where the Democrat made a stunning come from behind victory due to Acorn ballot harvesting and the King County Elections team which, how do I say this, was interesting in the post election period. Since then everything is worse. What the Hemingway's overlooked is the how law enforcement and the legal apparatus have been added to fray by going after candidates with Trump being the prime example. Even worse this reeks of being run from the White House by the current Junta who "won" in 2020 because of all this. We screwed at this time.

Posted by: Lost In Space at May 05, 2023 06:07 PM (iGfKR)

155 ...
I don't -care- about elections, not as I did, but I don't want to be gulled by the next Romney Substitute. Now that I don't have to worry about that, I can worry about the impending war with Russia and China.
Posted by: trev006 at May 05, 2023 05:26 PM (78UcJ)

I agree. We're past disagreeing on how different political philosophies will benefit the nation. We are now in a spiritual conflict: one side wants to kill as many babies, and mutilate the genitals of as many mentally ill people as possible. The Democrats used to promise utopia on the cheap: now we have wide-spread masses of people living in squalor that used to be unimaginable in the U.S.

The GOPe is incapable of stopping the carnage because they only care about putting more money in their own pockets. They are flailing because they haven't any moral compass.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 05, 2023 06:07 PM (pJWtt)

156 And as I keep saying: culture is downstream of technology.

The change in culture is driven by technology, and the Right has lost control of that.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 05, 2023 05:48 PM (DM3oU)
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Tranny mania, defund the police, YOURE A RACISS!!!1!!1, the destruction of merit, men are the enemy, the overall rejection of Western values - none of this was created by ChatGPT or the internet or anything else. It's good old fashioned human lust for power that's always been hardwired in human beings. This is a moral struggle, not a technical one.

Posted by: Charles Nelson Reilly at May 05, 2023 06:07 PM (/DTlP)

157 I keep waiting for the Thermodorian Reaction here in the hellscape called America.

I loved when Princess Leia (in disguise) threatened Jabba with the thermodorian detonator as much as the next guy, but how's it supposed to save America from the radical Left?!?!

Posted by: Movie Moron at May 05, 2023 06:07 PM (NCgXW)

158 No one was pure enough for the #Woke radical murderers of the Mountain.

And this is what I fear second only to civil war:

Let's say we win. Let's say there is some revolt or movement of the people or whatever and we stomp the woke into the curb and the sun shines through the clouds and we roll back the insanity of the last x period of time from the left.

Who makes that call? How do we decide who gets punished for what? Where's the line drawn? Once you have that momentum and the pursed-lipped hardcore reformers are in charge, how do we stop them from continually finding one more reason to reform and one more wave of people into the wood chipper or what have you?

There is a dark, grim satisfaction in imagining a scenario where Joe Biden faces the dark consequences of his entire life of evil and corruption. There's a joy in imagining the wailing and weeping of university types turned out to the street or to dig canals or whatever.

But it never stops there. Do you have a homosexual friend? Did you fight hard enough against the tranny agenda? Do you like rap music? Did you ever say something on social media that was a bit risque or questionable?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 05, 2023 06:08 PM (0hOvj)

159 Yep just like trump cost the republicans the senate by telling everyone to stay home in the Georgia senate runoff race because the election was rigged and their votes would not count. A huge own goal by trump and he never stopped to think about what he was saying , he can't help it and the democrats will use that to destroy him.

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People didn't need Trump to tell them anything. Voters watched Georgia Republicans do nothing, or worse than nothing, with their own eyes. Same as we watched Republicans throw the midterms.

Heck, mitch endorsed Murkowski while pulling money out of Arizona once it looked like the Republicans might win. And not a peep about child mutilations or a plan for inflation.

Voters don't need someone else to explain what they're seeing.

Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 06:09 PM (Ekky5)

160
The republican nominee needs a strong platform of capital gains tax cuts and free trade agreements.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Don't forget the enterprise zones.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 05, 2023 06:09 PM (63Dwl)

161 Ask not what pitiless retribution your country can give to you, but what pitiless retribution you can give to your country.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 05, 2023 06:09 PM (oINRc)

162 The Democrats used to promise utopia on the cheap: now we have wide-spread masses of people living in squalor that used to be unimaginable in the U.S.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 05, 2023 06:07 PM (pJWtt)
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It's worse than that.

We have wide-spread masses of people who are being paid to live in squalor and seem to prefer that to lifting themselves out of poverty and adopting civilization.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 05, 2023 06:10 PM (BpYfr)

163 If we have to take Harry and Meghan, can't we make the Brits keep Dr Jill.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 05, 2023 06:11 PM (RqMSv)

164
The other thing about the 'six week' abortion thing... Some Doctors plot the pregnancy from the beginning of the end of the woman's last period. By that measure (which I believe Dr. Oz subscribed to) then a woman has all of two weeks after a missed period to get an abortion.

Opposed as I am to abortion I still like people on the pro-life side to get into office, put their feet up on the desk, then reveal what they intend to do. When you get an (L) behind your name you get to do Jack squat. (Sorry, Jack)

Remember that Obama had a sudden epiphany about gay 'marriage' after being re-elected and was a lame duck.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2023 06:12 PM (enJYY)

165 @25 sorry for being out. The NY Dems sued after the election in NYS cts seeking to invalidate the districts which basically were approved by the the CT of appeals. The new case is arguing about the lines that were drawn. Depends on who heard case , and what the new left wing judges will do

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 05, 2023 06:13 PM (El6CU)

166 I don't -care- about elections

You're apathy is temporary.

Clarence Thomas is 74. Sam Alito is 73.

And that's not even taking into account the fact that Dems are encouraging their minions to kill justices.

When the Court shifts to a Dem-nominated majority, you're going to care. Quite a fucking lot.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at May 05, 2023 06:13 PM (KFhLj)

167 then a woman has all of two weeks after a missed period to get an abortion.

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So an entire year's vacation.

Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 06:13 PM (9ULwW)

168 Don't forget the enterprise zones.

its not that these things are bad, its that they are dealing with a skinned knee when my head is literally on fire. We need someone skilled in triage, able to "know what time it is" as ACE put it. And for all his strengths in other areas, particularly foreign relations, business, and trade Trump is not that guy. And that all assumes that, as the post notes, we even have true and fair elections.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 05, 2023 06:13 PM (0hOvj)

169 158 No one was pure enough for the #Woke radical murderers of the Mountain.

And this is what I fear second only to civil war:

Let's say we win. Let's say there is some revolt or movement of the people or whatever and we stomp the woke into the curb and the sun shines through the clouds and we roll back the insanity of the last x period of time from the left.

Who makes that call?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 05, 2023 06:08 PM (0hOvj)

I volunteer as Tribune. Anybody know if the Buccee's architects do gibbets?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at May 05, 2023 06:13 PM (cupoy)

170 then a woman has all of two weeks after a missed period to get an abortion

The problem with this perspective is that its looking at aw, shucks it would suck to have a baby. The perspective should be "THIS IS A HELPLESS INNOCENT HUMAN BEING YOU ARE MURDERING."

One of these things is problematic and can be tragic. The other is unthinkable horror.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 05, 2023 06:14 PM (0hOvj)

171 I don't -care- about elections, not as I did, but I don't want to be gulled by the next Romney Substitute. Now that I don't have to worry about that, I can worry about the impending war with Russia and China.
Posted by: trev006 at May 05, 2023 05:26 PM (78UcJ)

Probably won't be much of a war. Our soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines will be too busy choosing their personal pronouns to fight. Our only hope is the ruskis and chicoms are laughing their heads off at the makeup being worn by the Americans.

Posted by: Don L. amd George T at May 05, 2023 06:14 PM (89Sog)

172 When the Court shifts to a Dem-nominated majority, you're going to care. Quite a fucking lot.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at May 05, 2023 06:13 PM (KFhLj)
******
Exactly. This is why we HAVE to win.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 05, 2023 06:15 PM (NpAcC)

173 yeah, and trump brings his own special set of problems.

true.

and the left will assign DeSantis his own new, personalized set of problems.

hey, the left believes in human sacrifice. We're going to have to sacrifice our pols as they gain toxicity. it's not fair but there you are.

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 05, 2023 06:16 PM (MLrvz)

174 (con't)
violence, but as history has shown us - when one group seeks to brutally suppress and dominate another group, they will fight back. So, "The Troubles" come to America. Mostly in the Blue States, I think.

Finally after years of fighting and violence and murder and bad feeling, the IRA/etc sign a new peace treaty with the Brits that....you guessed it! Simply brings back the old arrangement of 6 counties Northern Ireland. Only, just as before more or less, Protestants and Catholics have decided to tolerate each other and everybody's all happy and proud that they went back to essentially the same fucking thing they had before after all that violence and murder and wasted lives.

There are some Catholic areas, there are some Protestant areas, there are some mixed areas in Northern Ireland. They don't particularly mix but they don't kill each other.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Homo Sapiens.

This is the probable future short of a Stalin-style victory by the left. Pointless and stupid.

The only one this benefits is China,

Posted by: naturalfake at May 05, 2023 06:17 PM (RJQ8g)

175 Let's say we win. Let's say there is some revolt or movement of the people or whatever and we stomp the woke into the curb and the sun shines through the clouds and we roll back the insanity of the last x period of time from the left.

Who makes that call? How do we decide who gets punished for what? Where's the line drawn? Once you have that momentum and the pursed-lipped hardcore reformers are in charge, how do we stop them from continually finding one more reason to reform and one more wave of people into the wood chipper or what have you?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 05, 2023 06:08 PM (0hOvj)

First of all, if I'm making those decisions it's a clear sign that all power is determined by how many armed jackasses you can bring to a town hall meeting. And everyone above me in the org structure is dead.

But firstly, the pedophile oligarchs would be exposed and flayed alive. All of their inner circles would join them. Assuming certain non-NATO allies haven't sent nukes in retaliation, next come the people who gave untested jabs to children. The doctors would likely lose their jobs: the HMO execs and Faucis would be doing time.

(Continued...)

Posted by: trev006 at May 05, 2023 06:17 PM (78UcJ)

176 then a woman has all of two weeks after a missed period to get an abortion

Or, you know, don't have sex unless you are ready to deal with a pregnancy

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 05, 2023 06:17 PM (hXpNS)

177 Didn't Mollie write the book on this? Oh, yeah.
Its title is "Rigged".

Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at May 05, 2023 06:17 PM (HbfIF)

178 There are probably several thousand of them in any major city.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I don't think several thousand. I think a dozen yards, a couple dozen businesses, and a hundred or so trucks. I may be wrong.

But also there is (was) cell phone data. To me, the bullet is fully justified, but not for the driver, for the people behind it paying and organizing. This is facilitating murder, looting, rioting, and insurrection.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 05, 2023 06:17 PM (DM3oU)

179 It doesn't matter who appoints Justices to the Court, as much as how pitiless the retribution he deals on the Court is.

I promise that, once elected, I will have no pity to show. It will be a Zero Pity, Maximum Retribution administration.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 05, 2023 06:18 PM (oINRc)

180 I have no idea how a Floridian like Ricky Vaughn can be prosecuted by SDNY, but I'm grateful it happened. It's the clearest retrospective warning that federal pardons for the January 6th patriots would have been a terrible idea, and why the people who still insist on it are absolutely uninformed assholes.

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hmm, if only there were a way to prosecute SDNY in Miami.

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 05, 2023 06:18 PM (MLrvz)

181 I promise that, once elected, I will have no pity to show. It will be a Zero Pity, Maximum Retribution administration.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

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step 1. don't try to have dc juries give you justice.

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 05, 2023 06:19 PM (MLrvz)

182 oh, I guess we're using fancy legal words to prosecute here. in a red state, with trump loving juries.

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 05, 2023 06:19 PM (MLrvz)

183 158 But it never stops there. Do you have a homosexual friend? Did you fight hard enough against the tranny agenda? Do you like rap music? Did you ever say something on social media that was a bit risque or questionable?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 05, 2023 06:08 PM (0hOvj)

I'm both not a spiritual person and exceedingly honest, so if a magistrate of the freshly minted People's Republic of Jesusland demands that I disrespect his religion by faking it or face prosecution for apostasy, my response is prolly gonna guarantee that I'm turbo fucked. But yeah, your concerns are entirely warranted and are also why I tend to be a bit mistrustful of populist movements in general. Too much historical precedent.

Posted by: CppThis at May 05, 2023 06:19 PM (PZvjL)

184 173

'and the left will assign DeSantis his own new, personalized set of problems.'

I am staggered that anyone on our side doesn't understand this or (to put it darkly) pretend as though it won't happen.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 05, 2023 06:19 PM (roH4R)

185 Exactly. This is why we HAVE to win.

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The Democrats have been working towards this for 100 years. That's not an exaggeration. This is the culmination of events for them, and it's why they're so bold and unconcerned. They know they hold 99.9% of the power.

We can't get our Senate Majority Leader to not investigate our elected President even after security clearances prove from the start that none of the claims are true.

I return to my only thought about 2024: God is in the miracle business, and that gift to us is the only way their plans are stopped.

Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 06:20 PM (9ULwW)

186 It's the clearest retrospective warning that federal pardons for the January 6th patriots would have been a terrible idea

I find the argument "he can't pardon them and save them from unconstitutionally being held and tried in DC, because then local authorities would try to try them" to be pretty unconvincing. How would they be worse off in those circumstances?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 05, 2023 06:20 PM (0hOvj)

187 Imagine walking up to any man and saying "You've got to decide about this important thing, but you've got two weeks."

Posted by: Celebrate the normalization of poop fetishes or else at May 05, 2023 06:21 PM (9ULwW)

188 I find the argument "he can't pardon them and save them from unconstitutionally being held and tried in DC, because then local authorities would try to try them" to be pretty unconvincing. How would they be worse off in those circumstances?

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the left are evil assholes who don't care. they went after manafort federally and locally. they're doing it to trump.

they're giving murderers 10 month suspended sentences. but they'll send you away for a decade.

Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 05, 2023 06:22 PM (MLrvz)

189 "msm" dials up drama and chaos to attach to Trump's name, no matter how tenuous and ludicrous.

NeverTrumpers respond with, "I am so tired of Trump's drama."

{heavy sign}

Posted by: Ann at May 05, 2023 06:22 PM (ilNea)

190 I felt like both Trump and the RNC knew this going into 2020 and did very little to nothing to address any of it. They knew Fuckerberg was giving out cash illegally and that the Dems were gearing up for ballot harvesting shenanigans.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 05, 2023 06:22 PM (mE7cY)

191 (from above)

Now, I'm a forgiving guy, so I'd be fine with ushering in the Rat leadership into prison cells and sparing their followers. But even my very reasonable program would mean civil war. The oligarchs refuse to go down easily. So be it.

I would like to limit the casualties of such a war to convicted terrorists and summary execution for looters. But that's not how things would go. Likely after two decades pass, a Christian theocracy might well be needed to purge the left. They might well decide you need to face Correction merely for having a gay friend or not killing enough infidels. Muslims might be allowed to stay as guests, or be deported based on how tolerant their homelands are of Christians. It might be too late to accept conversions?

Don't like any of that? Well, that's why you need a society with a functioning civil order. A fundamentalist Catholic theocracy is not the worst thing that can happen, by a long way.

Posted by: trev006 at May 05, 2023 06:22 PM (78UcJ)

192
One of these things is problematic and can be tragic. The other is unthinkable horror.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 05, 2023 06:14 PM

Under socialism abortion up to and after birth will be permitted, even encouraged. No keyboard warrior like myself is gonna win election by being unelectable.

*That's* the point. Not the sin. Render unto Caesar...

There are some red state Governors doing good things on the abortion front. But they had to win first.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2023 06:22 PM (enJYY)

193 if a magistrate of the freshly minted People's Republic of Jesusland demands that I disrespect his religion by faking it or face prosecution for apostasy, my response is prolly gonna guarantee that I'm turbo fucked

And I'll be in the tumbril right next to you for saying "its unbiblical and wrong to force people to join a religion when they do not believe."

NOBODY is pure enough to make it through all the tests as you noted, because populist revolutions all too often end in rivers of blood and mountains of skulls. Once that conflagration is opened up, its extremely hard to get it contained or stopped

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 05, 2023 06:23 PM (0hOvj)

194 158 No one was pure enough for the #Woke radical murderers of the Mountain.

And this is what I fear second only to civil war:

Let's say we win. Let's say there is some revolt or movement of the people or whatever and we stomp the woke into the curb and the sun shines through the clouds and we roll back the insanity of the last x period of time from the left.

Who makes that call?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 05, 2023 06:08 PM (0hOvj)

If a Civil War II lasts more than a few weeks, the area now called the USA will not remain at the top of the world order, no matter which side wins or if the result is a territorial split. Foreign nations and coalitions will descend like buzzards as the citizens concentrate on fighting each other. I cannot see the military being neutral and battling only foreign threats to the borders of the USA.

Posted by: Gref at May 05, 2023 06:24 PM (AMIL/)

195 Nood hits

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2023 06:24 PM (AW6rC)

196 step 1. don't try to have dc juries give you justice.
Posted by: sockamster, gator at May 05, 2023 06:19 PM (MLrvz)

Juries?

HAHAHAHA!!!

No judge stands before a jury. Only the knout, and the sword.

YD '24.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 05, 2023 06:24 PM (oINRc)

197 As many have said...

We ain't voting our way back to a legitimate Constitutional Republic.

The RINOs (controlled opposition) will continue to bloviate about how 'fair and accurate, without even a sliver of vote fraud' our elections are run.

The globalists are hell bent on shredding what is left of the Constitution, and are BAMN-ing it all the way.

Posted by: Pete at May 05, 2023 06:24 PM (p79ae)

198 Imagine walking up to any man and saying "You've got to decide about this important thing, but you've got two weeks."

When the decision is "should I or should I not murder my helpless, innocent, unborn baby" that's not exactly a challenging call for anyone with a soul.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 05, 2023 06:25 PM (0hOvj)

199 This is a moral struggle, not a technical one.
Posted by: Charles Nelson Reilly

How do you convince people to see the light?
I posit that technology has upended the rules of society and so women no longer have to be chaste (penicillin,) women can be men (drugs, surgery,) gays no longer dies of horrible diseases (drugs,..)

Likewise, children are now exposed to a world outside their home and church well before they are prepared to see the evil before them. It is a moral struggle, but morality did not spontaneously decide to collapse in the West, it was facilitated by new technologies that our old society was not prepared for. And newer and worser technologies are coming.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 05, 2023 06:25 PM (DM3oU)

200 How would they be worse off in those circumstances?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 05, 2023 06:20 PM (0hOvj)

A federal pardon implies accepting guilt. So if SDNY decides to have jurisdiction over the entire country, backed by the Bloomberg DoJ, it means extremely harsh prison sentences for everything attached to the conspiracy- which is now proven by the presidential attempt to pardon all the conspirators.

The legalities don't actually matter, the Garland Department of Justice is the Globalist People's Court. But if the last three years haven't convinced you of their determined malevolence, I'm not wasting time to break it down further than that.

Posted by: trev006 at May 05, 2023 06:28 PM (78UcJ)

201 It's the clearest retrospective warning that federal pardons for the January 6th patriots would have been a terrible idea

I find the argument "he can't pardon them and save them from unconstitutionally being held and tried in DC, because then local authorities would try to try them" to be pretty unconvincing. How would they be worse off in those circumstances?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 05, 2023 06:20 PM

I think everyone is forgetting one important thing, trump's pardons were contested in court and the judge refused to dismiss the charges against michael flynn was he actually still held on bond by the judge after he was pardoned because he wanted to thumb his nose at trump and show trump he was powerless in the DC court system. It wasn't until scotus threatened to get involved that the charges were dismissed, pre trial motions were dropped and flynn was released from his bond restrictions.

The same thing would have happened times 100 and it would still be tied up in the courts while they stood trial.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 05, 2023 06:28 PM (ncXxy)

202 "I believe that Trump brings his own special set of problems to any election above and beyond the left's eagerness to rig them against him"

Huh. Name me a candidate who does NOT bring his/her special set of problems to an election.

I recall the alibis the Franz von Papen Republicans use when one of the candidates wins the primary but loses the general: "The other Republican candidates were worse since they lost the primary, and you conservatives are such unrealistic purists you cost us a winnable seat by not going 110% for our guy!" And when a candidate the von Papen Republicans disapprove of wins the primary but loses the general the von Papen Republican crow, "See! That what you conservative purists get for nominating an unelectable candidate! You should have listened to us, your moral and intellectual betters!"

The problems the GOP faces are (1) the massive cheating operation the Hemmingways described, and (2) the Republican Party has moves so far to the Left in recent years that voters no longer see a real difference between the two major parties. Neither problem will be solved. The GOP's main function is to pretend to be the opposition.

Posted by: Mhandisi at May 05, 2023 06:29 PM (IXANy)

203 I felt like both Trump and the RNC knew this going into 2020 and did very little to nothing to address any of it. They knew Fuckerberg was giving out cash illegally and that the Dems were gearing up for ballot harvesting shenanigans.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 05, 2023 06:22 PM (mE7cY)

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Agreed. Getting rolled by the obvious Joint Deep State / CCP Civid PsyOp -- and allowing states to unconstitutionally enshrine universal mail-in balloting and election fraud -- cost him the election ... and us ultimately the country.

Posted by: ShainS at May 05, 2023 06:29 PM (TtRev)

204 187 Imagine walking up to any man and saying "You've got to decide about this important thing, but you've got two weeks."
Posted by: Celebrate

TO me, this is like saying:
There is a child in that burning building. Well, I might help, but it will take me two weeks to decide. Get back to me.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 05, 2023 06:31 PM (DM3oU)

205
My wife has lesions in her lungs that may be pre-cancerous. If she were to become pregnant chemo to save her life would almost certainly kill the fetus or damage it beyond any semblance of any sort of actual life that didn't require expenditures beyond our ability to support.

You're telling me you can't find an asterisk or two? You're gonna give her two weeks? DeSantis is getting ready to fumble the ball into his own end zone and provide Soros with the ammo he needs.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 05, 2023 06:31 PM (enJYY)

206 193 NOBODY is pure enough to make it through all the tests as you noted, because populist revolutions all too often end in rivers of blood and mountains of skulls. Once that conflagration is opened up, its extremely hard to get it contained or stopped
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 05, 2023 06:23 PM (0hOvj)

IIRC there's a section of Edmund Burke's epic takedown of the nascent French Revolution where he cites the reason it'll destroy itself as being that a bunch of aggressive yahoos from the contemporary equivalent of Suburban Wine Mom Country trap themselves in a vicious cycle of one-upping each other's zealotry because it's all they've got.

Posted by: CppThis at May 05, 2023 06:32 PM (PZvjL)

207 Look at California one party state and what that gets you

Posted by: Skip at May 05, 2023 06:32 PM (xhxe8)

208 How would they be worse off in those circumstances?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Are you kidding? They are being accused of working under his direction. This would be further proof of conspiracy. This would inflame the DC juries and system to make them pay even more because they are no longer dupes, but his brownshirts.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 05, 2023 06:33 PM (DM3oU)

209 Foreign nations and coalitions will descend like buzzards as the citizens concentrate on fighting each other. I cannot see the military being neutral and battling only foreign threats to the borders of the USA.
Posted by: Gref at May 05, 2023 06:24 PM (AMIL/)

The military is likely to break apart into feuding warlords, shortly after most of the senior officers and all of the feminists are massacred by their enlisted men. Now, foreign armies might show up- China, for one, will insist on defending West Coast enclaves for their own reasons. But don't count on it. Many Americans are extremely distrustful of foreigners, especially if they can't speak English, and if these forces go far beyond the seaboards they can expect to get massacred.

Posted by: trev006 at May 05, 2023 06:33 PM (78UcJ)

210 209 Foreign nations and coalitions will descend like buzzards as the citizens concentrate on fighting each other. I cannot see the military being neutral and battling only foreign threats to the borders of the USA.
Posted by: Gref at May 05, 2023 06:24 PM (AMIL/)

The military is likely to break apart into feuding warlords, shortly after most of the senior officers and all of the feminists are massacred by their enlisted men. Now, foreign armies might show up- China, for one, will insist on defending West Coast enclaves for their own reasons. But don't count on it. Many Americans are extremely distrustful of foreigners, especially if they can't speak English, and if these forces go far beyond the seaboards they can expect to get massacred.

Posted by: trev006 at May 05, 2023 06:33 PM (78UcJ)

I pray you are correct.

Posted by: Gref at May 05, 2023 06:35 PM (AMIL/)

211 Hey Ace, don't you think if the Republicans put as much zeal and effort into fighting the Democrats as they do in going after MAGA and the Tea Party, maybe they'd be taken seriously?

Yeah. You don't have an excuse for them there, do you? But I'm sure nominating Desantis makes everything magically right again.

FUCK THE G.O.P.!!!

Posted by: Tracy at May 05, 2023 06:36 PM (eo+G8)

212 158r:Let's say we win. Let's say there is some revolt or movement of the people or whatever and we stomp the woke into the curb and the sun shines through the clouds and we roll back the insanity of the last x period of time from the left. Who makes that call? How do we decide who gets punished for what? Where's the line drawn? Once you have that momentum and the pursed-lipped hardcore reformers are in charge, how do we stop them from continually finding one more reason to reform and one more wave of people into the wood chipper or what have you?
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I'm sure we will have many volunteers for the tribunals, or passing such punitive legislation as may be necessary. However, I trust our side of the dividing line to limit the retribution to the leaders and their lackeys who were responsible. Thing is, there are going to be a lot of people who to be/will be responsible for their actions. Justice sometimes involves retribution, especially for the greater populace to feel justice has been done and return to peace. And if we do have to fight it out, they'll have deserved it.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 05, 2023 06:36 PM (W+kMI)

213 Meatball Ron seems like a smart guy, but I gotta agree that wading too deep into the abortion mire is a really stupid idea and probably worth at least two own goals. It's always irritated me that this one dumbass wedge issue is the hill that everyone wants to die on, especially since it's so often used as a shield by crooked establishmentarian types to justify their continued existence.

Posted by: CppThis at May 05, 2023 06:37 PM (PZvjL)

214 This article is incorrect. The GOP absolutely has a chance to win elections. To maintain the veneer of legitimate elections, a handful of RINOs will always be able to "win".

It's Conservatives that don't have a fucking chance in hell.

Posted by: Tom at May 05, 2023 06:39 PM (UjkZy)

215 Hey I know! Let's nominate Trump! He's the healing balm that will sooth over all the chaotic wounds of the election season.

There is much to be concerned about in terms of ballot harvesting and left-wing infrastructure. But the "only Trump," bedrock of support that will never even consider anything other than him is just too hypnotized. Three years ago, I told my wife, "he's going to sink us," and laying the mid-term losses at ANYTHING other than than at the feet of Trump is unacceptable.

Trump's senate picks looked crazier than the waiting room from Beetlejuice. As long as Trump is fellated, he's happy. Depth be damned.

Posted by: Marleys Ghost at May 05, 2023 06:43 PM (uxXx0)

216 Oh hey, I almost forgot.

AREN'T THESE SAME PEOPLE HECKTORING AND LECTURING TRUMP SUPPORTERS ABOUT RIGGED ELECTIONS BEING AN ISSUE THE EXACT SAME BUNCH PREACHING AT US TO NOT USE 2020 AS AN ELECTION ISSUE?!?

Hey NeverTrump, get your arguments in line! Fools.

Posted by: Tracy at May 05, 2023 06:44 PM (eo+G8)

217 202 "I believe that Trump brings his own special set of problems to any election above and beyond the left's eagerness to rig them against him"

Huh. Name me a candidate who does NOT bring his/her special set of problems to an election.

The problems the GOP faces are (1) the massive cheating operation the Hemmingways described, and (2) the Republican Party has moves so far to the Left in recent years that voters no longer see a real difference between the two major parties. Neither problem will be solved. The GOP's main function is to pretend to be the opposition.
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I support Trump, and will do so again, even despite his lack of political experience (for which he was nominated, twice) is that he has fought for us, supported us, and done what he could to follow through. That's more important than some perfect conservative-ish curriculum vitae which seems ever distant this decade. The Uniparty hates him for the unpardonable sin of showing them all up, which is fine by me. If they cheat to win again, then the Republic is truly in jeopardy.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 05, 2023 06:45 PM (W+kMI)

218 14 This article is incorrect. The GOP absolutely has a chance to win elections. To maintain the veneer of legitimate elections, a handful of RINOs will always be able to "win".

It's Conservatives that don't have a fucking chance in hell.
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If no conservative Republicans can be elected, there is no Republican Party, just a Uniparty. why should I vote Demokrat Lite instead of the real thing? Trump has shown himself to be more of a populist conservative than the party which still claims to represent it. My vote for Trump in 2016 was a protest vote against TWO political parties, and it looks to be the same again in 2024.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 05, 2023 06:50 PM (W+kMI)

219 "Trump's senate picks looked crazier than the waiting room from Beetlejuice."

If only the GOP had the foresight to nominate more Senate candidates like Martha McSally, Kelly Ayotte, and Joe O'Dea!

Posted by: Mhandisi at May 05, 2023 06:51 PM (IXANy)

220 The Montagnards I knew of were not in the French government.
One of my nephews married a young lady of Hmong heritage.
We met her at a family gathering.
Wifmann asked her, "Who are the Hmong?"
She replied, "We are a peaceful people without a homeland."
I spewed my beverage through my nostrils as I turned to be polite and not laugh openly.

The Hmongs are the Montagnards who worked with our special forces teams going all the way back to White Star in Laos.
Fifteen year-old killers, five feet tall, and tough as boot leather.
"Peaceful people without a homeland." Indeed.

Our local Hmongs are the biggest marijuana growers in the far northern counties of CA.
They run very organized car theft rings up and down I5.
A local woman ran over an "Asian" gang member who was trying to carjack her.
The Sacramento affiliates sent an assassin to kill her. He got caught before completing his job...he was twelve.

Posted by: waepnedmann at May 05, 2023 06:57 PM (v1cCV)

221 then a woman has all of two weeks after a missed period to get an abortion

Or, you know, don't have sex unless you are ready to deal with a pregnancy
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Or...swallow, and butt sex

Posted by: BifBewalski at May 05, 2023 07:14 PM (3CCua)

222 The commenter who suggested making sure the green party is on the ballot is probably the smart way to do something.

Posted by: Harun at May 05, 2023 07:17 PM (Cg63x)

223 If we're going to get f*cked repeatedly & badly, I'd like to stop keeping so many politicians & their equally worthless staffs.

What's the Chinese Politburo have? Wikipedia: Currently, the bureau is a group of 24 top officials who oversee the party and central government. The politburo is headed by a general secretary. Unlike politburos of other communist parties, power within the CCP Politburo is further centralized in the Politburo Standing Committee, a group of 7 individuals from among the larger Politburo.

The Politburo is nominally elected by the Central Committee. In practice, however, scholars of Chinese elite politics believe that the Politburo is a self-perpetuating body, with new members of both the Politburo and its Standing Committee chosen through a series of deliberations by current Politburo members and retired Politburo Standing Committee members.

So dynasty families, all in the family but lots less. Even trickling down through the various committees, regional positions, a lot less. A zillion new representatives for the border jumpers & all of those new immigration categories that are mostly new ways to say border jumpers not needed. Humm.

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Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at May 05, 2023 07:59 PM (Vwz3I)

225 Vote DeSantis and lose (period).
Vote Trump and force a reckoning. Stop being lapdogs to the Uniparty. Cancel the Biden/McConnell Neocon cabal. A vote for Trump is a vote for a FORCE multiplier.

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226 The "second best" time was 2 years ago. "Now" is "better late than never." Too little, too late. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

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