Former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe Tells House Panel That The "Only Explanation" and Only "Plausible Asssessment" for the Origins of the Covid Pandemic is a Lab Leak in Wuhan

But but but wait -- Fauci said this was impossible, and a conspiracy theory, and also racist!

Why are these Evil Racist Words being projected on to my corneas right now?

EXCLUSIVE: Former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe says the "only explanation" and "plausible assessment" for the COVID-19 global pandemic is a leak from a Chinese Communist Party-controlled lab, citing U.S. intelligence and "numerous, diverse and unassailable" sources for the information.
Fox News exclusively obtained Ratcliffe's prepared testimony ahead of his appearance before the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic.
Ratcliffe, who was confirmed to serve as director of national intelligence in May 2020--during the pandemic--is expected to deliver an unclassified overview of what the intelligence community learned about the origins of COVID-19.
Ratcliffe is also expected to say the Biden administration declaring the assessment would have "enormous geopolitical implications" that they "seemingly" do "not want to face head-on."
"My informed assessment, as a person with as much or more access than anyone to our government's intelligence during the initial year of the virus outbreak and pandemic onset, has been and continues to be that a lab leak is the only explanation credibly supported by our intelligence, by science and by common sense," Ratcliffe is expected to say.
Ratcliffe will explain that if U.S. intelligence and evidence supporting a lab leak theory was placed "side-by-side with our intelligence and evidence pointing to a naturally occurring 'spillover; theory, the lab leak side of the ledger would be long and overwhelming while the 'spillover' side would be nearly empty."
Ratcliffe will point to China's obstruction of investigations into the origins and will say China is "incapable of offering a single shred of exculpatory evidence."
"The intelligence community's sources for the information are numerous, diverse and unassailable," Ratcliffe will say.
Ratcliffe is also expected to detail the "challenges" he and other Trump administration officials encountered, including "legitimate concerns about the closely-held sources of our intelligence and the sensitive methods used to obtain it, as well as illegitimate roadblocks related to professional conflicts of interest and partisan politics."
Ratcliffe will say those roadblocks included "the headwinds created when a lab leak assessment was initially labeled and falsely reported with near unanimity as a "conspiracy theory" by conflicted scientists and mainstream press, while also being censored as "disinformation" by social media giants. Ratcliffe is also expected to explain that "national and electoral politics were also influencing analysis of our intelligence on China" within the intelligence community.
"To this day, the CIA, unquestionably the world's premier spy agency with an unrivaled capacity to acquire information and near limitless resources to do so, has continued to state that it does not have enough information to make any formal assessment," Ratcliffe will say. "To put it bluntly, this is unjustifiable--and a reflection not that the agency can't make an assessment with any confidence, only that it won't."
Ratcliffe will explain that the intelligence community "makes thousands of assessments every year with a fraction of the intelligence -- circumstantial or otherwise -- that it possesses related to COVID origins."
"The real problem is, now three-and-a-half years later, the only plausible assessment the agency could make is that a virus which killed over a million Americans originated in a Chinese Communist Party-controlled lab whose research included work for the Chinese military," Ratcliffe will say. "Such an assessment would have enormous geopolitical implications that the Biden administration seemingly does not want to face head-on."

Douglas Feith also advised Congressmen to look to the clue of the Wuhan researchers who all got sick at the same time in the autumn of 2019:

On January 15, after interagency clearance of the document and consultations the week before with key allies, we released a Fact Sheet on "Activity at the Wuhan Institute of Virology" and an accompanying Press Statement on "Ensuring a Transparent, Thorough Investigation of COVID-19's Origin." As summarized in the Press Statement, we revealed:
Illnesses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV): The United States government has reason to believe that several researchers inside the WIV became sick in autumn 2019, before the first identified case of the outbreak, with symptoms consistent with both COVID19 and common seasonal illnesses. This raises questions about the credibility of WIV senior researcher Shi Zhengli's public claim that there was "zero infection" among the WIV's staff and students of SARS-CoV-2 or SARS-related viruses.
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The sick lab researchers identified in the January 2021 Fact Sheet remain the best lead yet into who or what may have been Patient Zero. There is no animal anywhere that has been identified as a comparably likely source of the outbreak. (China's former CDC director, George Gao, confirmed as much again last week.) The Biden administration, like the Trump administration before it, has more information about the sick researchers and their circumstances than has been released.

More at John Sexton's leak.

Ratcliffe stated that we could resolve this one way or another with a simple test to check the lab results from the sick Wuhan researchers.

But China will not permit this.

Which is telling in and of itself, of course.

"There has been public reporting about intelligence that those researchers became patients and were hospitalized," he said. He continued, "Without confirming the accuracy of that what I would submit to you is, if that is in fact the case and those hospitalizations took place the lab results and tests from those patients, if submitted for genetic sequencing, would be dispositive of the issue of whether or not those initial patient zeroes worked at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
"I would submit to you that in China there are not HIPAA considerations that prevent the Chinese government from accessing that. I would submit to you that if this took place they have the answers to that and I would submit to you that if the answers were exculpatory in nature that information would have been shared by the Chinese government which it has not."

Read Sexton for more. I don't want to steal his whole post, but he quotes Josh Rogin about the secret information that Feith and Ratcliffe allude to, but aren't specifying. China apologists claim the sick covid reearchers just had the flu. But Ratcliffe and Feith are alluding to the secret intelligence is that those covid researchers who got sick had the specific symptoms of "loss of smell" and "ground-glass opacities in the lungs." Those are two symptoms of covid but not the flu.

Correction: I earlier claimed that this "ground glass" appearance was actually real and due to "crystalization." CBD says I'm talking out of my ass and no, there is no crystalization, it's just what the lungs look like in an X-ray (I presume the latter). As Chuy can be fooled any number of times, I'm going to defer to CBD. Apologies for the error; I should have looked that up instead of relying on what I thought it meant from reading AllahPundit's Panic Posts.

Some clips from the hearing. Ratcliffe says everyone knew it was a lab-leak from the start, but due to "politics," this knowledge was treated as a "conspiracy theory."

He also says that people like Fauci and Francis Collins lied about covid's origins because they didn't want "unwarranted attention" regarding the links between American researchers and the Wuhan Lab's researchers, as well as the "sources of funding" for those Wuhan researchers.

So he's saying Fauci lied to cover up his own role in creating covid. That part starts at 2:19.

Former DNI John Ratcliffe says the CDC Director, the Secretary of State, and the Director of National Intelligence agreed that COVID-19 was most likely created in the Wuhan lab, but Dr. Anthony Fauci labeled the lab origin as a "conspiracy theory" because he funded the lab:

"You… pic.twitter.com/J3FA32IZE4
— KanekoaTheGreat (@KanekoaTheGreat) April 18, 2023

Ratcliffe lays out the case for the lab leak here. He repeats the language I quoted above.

“A lab leak is the only explanation credibly supported by our intelligence, by science and by common sense.”

John Ratcliffe, Former Director of National Intelligence (2020-2021).#Wuhan #Covid pic.twitter.com/PcBO3QYUT5
— James Melville (@JamesMelville) April 19, 2023

More here, noting that there is no evidence of any natural cause for the virus, no animal found who carried an intermediate stage of the virus, no evidence at all for a "natural spillover."

Ratcliffe says that Fauci never even mentioned to him that there was any chance this came from a lab. He repeats again that Fauci didn't want "unwanted" (or "unwarranted") "attention" being paid to where Wuhan's funding was coming from.

Ratcliffe roasts the media, "social media giants," and most of all the CIA, which continues maintaining it doesn't have enough information to say where covid came from. He quotes a CIA analyst who was reluctant to share his own conclusion that the virus came from a lab, saying, "I don't want our intelligence being used to support those [Trump's] policies."

Fmr. DNI John Ratcliffe Calls Out Conflicts of Interest in the Science Community & CIA in Assessing the Origins of COVID-19

"A lab leak assessment was initially labeled falsely and falsely reported with near unanimity as a 'conspiracy theory' by conflicted scientists and by… pic.twitter.com/ymEudC2gjm
— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) April 18, 2023

🔥 Fmr. DNI John Ratcliffe & Rep. James Comer on Fauci Covering Up the COVID Lab Leak Hypothesis

"This is a how-to manual in orchestrating a cover-up by using some of the most powerful and influential institutions in our country. If you ask me, this was set in motion by Dr.… pic.twitter.com/hj5N7VjiZ7
— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) April 18, 2023

Posted by: Ace at 12:10 PM

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1 Well no shit.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 19, 2023 12:10 PM (DRSnL)

2 Hi Ace.

Had a dream about you last night. I dreamt you came to the VaMoMe.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 19, 2023 12:12 PM (Y+l9t)

3 Fauci + sand fleas = good idea.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 19, 2023 12:12 PM (6Egig)

4 Ratcliffe will explain that if U.S. intelligence and evidence supporting a lab leak theory was placed "side-by-side with our intelligence and evidence pointing to a naturally occurring 'spillover; theory, the lab leak side of the ledger would be long and overwhelming while the 'spillover' side would be nearly empty."
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Not not actually empty. See, there was some evidence for it! Nobody lied!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2023 12:12 PM (t0OGg)

5 no shit? who would of thunk?

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 19, 2023 12:12 PM (OgrpQ)

6 OK, but Fauci still needs to answer for his crimes, with his own life.

Posted by: XTC at April 19, 2023 12:13 PM (UnA8+)

7 Ratcliffe will say those roadblocks included "the headwinds created when a lab leak assessment was initially labeled and falsely reported with near unanimity as a "conspiracy theory" by conflicted scientists and mainstream press, while also being censored as "disinformation" by social media giants. Ratcliffe is also expected to explain that "national and electoral politics were also influencing analysis of our intelligence on China" within the intelligence community.
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The hell you say.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2023 12:13 PM (t0OGg)

8 hiya

Posted by: JT at April 19, 2023 12:13 PM (T4tVD)

9 But Fox News lies!!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 19, 2023 12:14 PM (FVME7)

10 When is the Democrats Propaganda Ministry going to own up they were wrong that it wasn't from China on purpose?

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2023 12:14 PM (OMw8U)

11 Hi Ace.

Had a dream about you last night. I dreamt you came to the VaMoMe.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

Does she ever dream of me ?

NooooOOOOOO !

Posted by: JT at April 19, 2023 12:14 PM (T4tVD)

12 The sick lab researchers identified in the January 2021 Fact Sheet remain the best lead yet into who or what may have been Patient Zero. There is no animal anywhere that has been identified as a comparably likely source of the outbreak. (China's former CDC director, George Gao, confirmed as much again last week.) The Biden administration, like the Trump administration before it, has more information about the sick researchers and their circumstances than has been released.
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Gotta love the logic here.

"We're all colleagues in the same lab that is doing gain-of-function on SARS-type viruses and we all got sick at the same time with a SARS-like illness. Huh. Interesting. Oh well, just one of those oddities."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2023 12:14 PM (t0OGg)

13 Oh. I see. Well alrighty then. Where was Ratcliff going on about this asshattery when this all started? Did he throw the BS flag then when he knew this?

I am asking seriously, because this sure looks like there's some serious CYA going on here.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 19, 2023 12:15 PM (YRsIm)

14 I wish I thought this would make a difference.

Posted by: Catherine at April 19, 2023 12:15 PM (ZSsrh)

15 That only took, what, 3years?

Posted by: gourmand du jour, not a place kicker at April 19, 2023 12:15 PM (jTmQV)

16 Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!

Posted by: Gomer Pyle at April 19, 2023 12:15 PM (AwYPR)

17 Didn't we know this years ago?

Posted by: Infidel at April 19, 2023 12:15 PM (/0+YE)

18 When the New York Times returns Duranty's Pulitzer, that's when.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 19, 2023 12:15 PM (6Egig)

19 "I would submit to you that in China there are not HIPAA considerations that prevent the Chinese government from accessing that. I would submit to you that if this took place they have the answers to that and I would submit to you that if the answers were exculpatory in nature that information would have been shared by the Chinese government which it has not."
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All reasonable. Not that it matters.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2023 12:15 PM (t0OGg)

20 We need to take action! Let's triple all these agencies' budgets.

Posted by: GOPe at April 19, 2023 12:15 PM (SJLjq)

21
They will never forgive us for what they did.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 19, 2023 12:15 PM (MoZTd)

22
those covid researchers who got sick had the specific symptoms of "loss of smell" and "ground-glass opacities in the lungs." Those are two symptoms of covid but not the flu.

My wife had some strange respiratory thing in late October of 2019 and a scan two weeks later showed the same 'ground-glass' issues in her lungs. I've seen other reports from Pennsylvania of people who got hit around the same time.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 19, 2023 12:16 PM (enJYY)

23 Some clips from the hearing. Ratcliffe says everyone knew it was a lab-leak from the start, but due to "politics," this knowledge was treated as a "conspiracy theory."

Conspiracy Theory is nothing more than short-hand for That Which May Not Be Considered. That's all it is. The kind of stuff that people were burned at the stake for even considering, back in the day. Galileo would have been jailed for dabbling in Conspiracy Theory, if only they would have had the phrase, rather than heresy.

Posted by: Lupine of London at April 19, 2023 12:16 PM (2hgrf)

24 “A lab leak is the only explanation credibly supported by our intelligence, by science and by common sense.”

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Common sens? Is that even available anymore?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 19, 2023 12:16 PM (FVME7)

25 And yet, not one person will pay for this atrocity...

At this point I'd accept a free pass to go around slapping the face of those people who laughed at me for being a "denier".

I'm just that petty...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at April 19, 2023 12:16 PM (CCSxw)

26 Some clips from the hearing. Ratcliffe says everyone knew it was a lab-leak from the start, but due to "politics," this knowledge was treated as a "conspiracy theory."

He also says that people like Fauci and Francis Collins lied about covid's origins because they didn't want "unwarranted attention" regarding the links between American researchers and the Wuhan Lab's researchers, as well as the "sources of funding" for those Wuhan researchers.
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"We committed crimes and then covered them up in the most oppressive way possible and in the process we helped to escalate the destruction of public trust and imposed tyranny on entire populations."

And these people will get state funerals and statues when they die.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2023 12:16 PM (t0OGg)

27 DUH!

Seems like the only appropriate response at this time.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2023 12:17 PM (YIVH2)

28 "To put it bluntly, this is unjustifiable--and a reflection not that the agency can't make an assessment with any confidence, only that it won't."

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It's almost as if the CIA -- along with every other feral agency -- has been politicized and weaponized against the oligarchy's political opponents ... or something.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 19, 2023 12:17 PM (9I4nI)

29 >Ratcliffe is also expected to say the Biden administration declaring the assessment would have "enormous geopolitical implications" that they "seemingly" do "not want to face head-on."

No it won't. No one's even being called to account for the domestic trampling of all of our liberties in the name of coof, you really think there's going to be a clamoring to go after China? LOL, OK.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at April 19, 2023 12:17 PM (TIcXN)

30 Yeah, Scooby Doo could have wrapped that one up in 22 minutes. The Federal Government would like several years and a few billion dollars to study the matter and choose the best lie. Oh, and they'll fail and tell a stupid lie.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at April 19, 2023 12:17 PM (cupoy)

31 ace, don't miss the part where he (Radcliffe) references the ombudsman who testified that the CIA knew the manmade COVID virus came from China but wouldn't admit it because the CIA was afraid it would help Trump.

I'll go find the link.

Best part? The date of the testimony. Almost like there was a plan.

Posted by: They're lying, the bulk of EVs aren't being sold to private individuals at April 19, 2023 12:17 PM (PW63N)

32 The only "news" here is that a former highly-placed member of the "intelligence community" is telling us what we already know.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2023 12:17 PM (tkR6S)

33 Fauci is an evil little monster. Directly responsible for the deaths of millions, whether by covid or the vaxx.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at April 19, 2023 12:17 PM (2YtOq)

34 And these people will get state funerals and statues when they die.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2023 12:16 PM (t0OGg)
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Not to mention big fat pensions and book/media deals when they retire.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2023 12:17 PM (YIVH2)

35 He also says that people like Fauci and Francis Collins lied about covid's origins because they didn't want "unwarranted attention" regarding the links between American researchers and the Wuhan Lab's researchers, as well as the "sources of funding" for those Wuhan researchers.

Yep. There was a whole lotta "Oh shit, we did this" in March 2020.

Posted by: Catherine at April 19, 2023 12:17 PM (ZSsrh)

36 Ratcliffe says that Fauci never even mentioned to him that there was any chance this came from a lab. He repeats again that Fauci didn't want "unwanted" (or "unwarranted") "attention" being paid to where Wuhan's funding was coming from.

Ratcliffe grills the media, "social media giants," and most of all the CIA, which continues maintaining it doesn't have enough information to say where covid came from. He quotes a CIA analyst who was reluctant to share his own conclusion that the virus came from a lab, saying, "I don't want our intelligence being used to support those [Trump's] policies."
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Uhh, when he was the president, your fucking *job* was to support his policies.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2023 12:17 PM (t0OGg)

37 When the New York Times returns Duranty's Pulitzer, that's when.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Jimmy Duranty ?

Posted by: JT at April 19, 2023 12:17 PM (T4tVD)

38 "The great march of mental destruction will go on. Everything will be denied. Everything will become a creed. It is a reasonable position to deny the stones in the street; it will be a religious dogma to assert them. It is a rational thesis that we are all in a dream; it will be a mystical sanity to say that we are all awake. Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer."

Dead. On. The. Money.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 19, 2023 12:18 PM (iFTx/)

39 The "Only Explanation" and Only "Plausible Asssessment" for the Origins of the Covid Pandemic is a Lab Leak in Wuhan

Better be. We paid good money for that.

Posted by: Herr Doktor Fauci at April 19, 2023 12:18 PM (CaJIi)

40 9 But Fox News lies!!!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Well they do. It is just that they occasionally have coverage of issues that the rest of the media complex don't. Note the hypocritical internal messaging between various personalities including Tucker and Hannity after the 2020 election.

Neither of them wanted to confront that Fox calling AZ for Biden started the signal for the big shutdown in counting votes in WS, GA, PA, and MI. They know where their paycheck comes from and that the Murdochs wanted Trump gone.

'We did it!!!' by a Murdoch family wife is all you need to know about Fox.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 12:18 PM (t9aCs)

41
"Look folks, if we admitted at the time what we knew was the truth, it would have meant war with China."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 19, 2023 12:18 PM (MoZTd)

42 Had a dream about you last night. I dreamt you came to the VaMoMe.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 19, 2023 12:12 PM (Y+l9t)

That's funny, a couple of nights ago I had a dream that Flounder came to the TXMoMe.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 19, 2023 12:18 PM (DRSnL)

43 The don't actually pay this Ratcliffe fella a salary, do they?

Oh, and fire his ass.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 19, 2023 12:18 PM (uv/1i)

44 Some clips from the hearing. Ratcliffe says everyone knew it was a lab-leak from the start, but due to "politics," this knowledge was treated as a "conspiracy theory."

Yep "politics" and "do-gooders" will get you killed every time.

Fuck wads.

Posted by: Archer at April 19, 2023 12:19 PM (gmo/4)

45 Some clips from the hearing. Ratcliffe says everyone knew it was a lab-leak from the start, but due to "politics," this knowledge was treated as a "conspiracy theory."

Define "everyone".

Posted by: BignJames at April 19, 2023 12:19 PM (AwYPR)

46 Does anyone know if the rumors of Fauci's covert continued federal employment have proved to be true? He certainly needs to be hauled in front of the committee now.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 19, 2023 12:19 PM (KSNKu)

47 Walter Duranty, red commie shill who failed to report on Russian pogrom against Ukrainians.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 19, 2023 12:19 PM (6Egig)

48 So non-expert comedian Jon Stewart was right and Fauci was wrong? I’m stunned

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 19, 2023 12:20 PM (SRCl2)

49 "These included the headwinds created when a lab leak assessment was initially labeled and
falsely reported with near unanimity as a “conspiracy theory” by conflicted scientists and
mainstream press, while also being censored as “disinformation” by social media giants.
Internally, national and electoral politics were also influencing analysis of our intelligence on
China within the IC, as reflected in the January 6, 2021 report by the intelligence community’s
analytic ombudsman. As a career, non-political official tasked with refereeing internal disputes
over intelligence assessments, the ombudsman found that “analysts appeared reluctant to have
their analysis on China brought forward because they tend to disagree with the [Trump]
administration’s policies, saying in effect, ‘I don’t want our intelligence used to support those
policies.’

link goes to oversight.house.gov:

https://tinyurl.com/285c55wf

Did you catch the date?

Posted by: They're lying, the bulk of EVs aren't being sold to private individuals at April 19, 2023 12:20 PM (PW63N)

50 33 Fauci is an evil little monster. Directly responsible for the deaths of millions, whether by covid or the vaxx.
Posted by: Blake
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He is a mass serial killer. Go back to his policies during AIDS promoting the killer drug AZT. Also offed a bunch of orphans in NY using them as guinea pigs for untested drugs.

Essentially, Schwab talks about the great reset. Fauci eagerly has blood on his hands to do it.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 12:20 PM (t9aCs)

51 I do not understand why we ever send money to labs in other countries unless it is for illegal purposes. These other governments are perfectly capable of funding their own research. This proves that if it is too dangerouos to do in the US, it is too dangerous to do anywhere because global traffic makes it impossible to contain disastrous results.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 19, 2023 12:20 PM (Y+l9t)

52 A lab leak is not the only plausible explantation.

A lab *release* is also perfectly plausible. But they don't want us considering that beyond the edges of their little window.

Fauci has already announced he's got another virus dropping in 2024 and it's gonna be lit AF

Posted by: ... at April 19, 2023 12:20 PM (iCWt+)

53 The entire world would be well within reason to pursue reparations and to abandon trade and discourse with the US and China until reparations were made.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 19, 2023 12:20 PM (YRsIm)

54 "Look folks, if we admitted at the time what we knew was the truth, it would have meant war with China."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 19, 2023 12:18 PM (MoZTd)
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Only maybe.

They didn't care about that. That's just sending American kids to die in a foreign land. That's old hat. It also would have cut off some of the CCP money sluices that were filling their swimming pools with cash. That's a bigger problem, but still not paramount.

The paramount problem is that they did it. They, themselves. They broke the law and used US taxpayer dollars to fund reckless gain-of-function in a dictatorship abroad - a dictatorship known to have lax process control. This happened because of *them* and if they admitted it, they would have been fired and possibly prosecuted. That's a personal consideration, and that is the most important thing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2023 12:20 PM (t0OGg)

55 It should be pointed out that covid was caused when an elderly white man shot a young Black chairman Xi Jinping who had thought he was entering Joe Biden's beach house.

Posted by: CtHillary, dead but dreaming at April 19, 2023 12:21 PM (zSyrn)

56 I thought we all knew it came from Raccoon Dogs, now?

Posted by: garrett at April 19, 2023 12:21 PM (P7IZS)

57 That's funny, a couple of nights ago I had a dream that Flounder came to the TXMoMe.
Posted by: Jordan61

Musta been a Fluke....

Posted by: JT at April 19, 2023 12:21 PM (T4tVD)

58 Dang...all these apparent hallmarks of a disinfo...

Oh. Never mind.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 19, 2023 12:21 PM (anj39)

59 I do not understand why we ever send money to labs in other countries unless it is for illegal purposes. These other governments are perfectly capable of funding their own research. This proves that if it is too dangerouos to do in the US, it is too dangerous to do anywhere because global traffic makes it impossible to contain disastrous results.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 19, 2023 12:20 PM (Y+l9t)
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It's illegal to do it here. It's also illegal to fund it abroad, but there is a better chance of getting away with it if you go that route.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2023 12:21 PM (t0OGg)

60 The idea that the pandemic spontaneously started a few hundred yards from the only P-4 bio lab in China, a lab with known safety problems, was always ludicrous.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 19, 2023 12:21 PM (2tUFv)

61 Ratcliffe grills the media, "social media giants," and most of all the CIA, which continues maintaining it doesn't have enough information to say where covid came from. He quotes a CIA analyst who was reluctant to share his own conclusion that the virus came from a lab, saying, "I don't want our intelligence being used to support those [Trump's] policies."

If it can be proven that a CIA analyst said this (or better yet, wrote it somewhere), that person needs to be fired and brought up on charges. They are not there to pass judgement on the policies of the duly elected representatives of the people.

Obviously this applies to anyone else at CIA who did anything similar as well. It's time to clean the Augean Stables.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2023 12:22 PM (eOEVl)

62 Sorry, I see you'd mentioned it but didn't use "ombudsman", which is what I had ctl+f'd for.

January 6th, 2021. Weird, huh?

Posted by: They're lying, the bulk of EVs aren't being sold to private individuals at April 19, 2023 12:22 PM (PW63N)

63 I think Fox was the only news corp saying it came from a lab leak.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 19, 2023 12:23 PM (NpAcC)

64
Does anyone know if the rumors of Fauci's covert continued federal employment have proved to be true? He certainly needs to be hauled in front of the committee now.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 19, 2023 12:19 PM

I don't know with any certainty, but logically it would make sense for Fauci to want to continue to be under the states umbrella of legal protection.

That's the #1 reason I think it's true. #2 will amaze you.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 19, 2023 12:23 PM (enJYY)

65 That's funny, a couple of nights ago I had a dream that Flounder came to the TXMoMe.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 19, 2023 12:18 PM (DRSnL)

That's weird, last night I had a dream where Gwen Stefani was after me for a date. I kept telling her I was flattered, but I'm a married man.

Posted by: Archer at April 19, 2023 12:23 PM (gmo/4)

66 I do not understand why we ever send money to labs in other countries unless it is for illegal purposes.

The Federal government banned "gain-of-function" research.

Lord Fauci didn't agree with that, so he sent money to the Wuhan lab, via a cut-out, to continue doing the banned research.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 19, 2023 12:23 PM (2tUFv)

67 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 19, 2023 12:23 PM (tjClK)

68 Had a dream about you last night. I dreamt you came to the VaMoMe.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

I had a dream that I went to the VaMoMe...then my wife woke me up and said "No."

Posted by: Boswell at April 19, 2023 12:23 PM (+Cgut)

69 What I want to read is not what we've known for months, but when the fucking perpwalks begin.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 19, 2023 12:23 PM (pohLc)

70 Fauci should be hanged by the neck until dead for crimes against humanity.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 19, 2023 12:23 PM (tjClK)

71 "...was initially labeled falsely and falsely reported with near unanimity as a 'conspiracy theory'..."

Huh... it's odd that these persons in authority happened to almost all reach the same wrong conclusion and then independently decide it was important to boldly broadcast their ignorance with certainty, presumably, in an effort to quash this notion there may have been a conspiracy at play.

Posted by: Simple Stevo at April 19, 2023 12:24 PM (SOV+T)

72 If it can be proven that a CIA analyst said this (or better yet, wrote it somewhere), that person needs to be fired and brought up on charges. They are not there to pass judgement on the policies of the duly elected representatives of the people.

Obviously this applies to anyone else at CIA who did anything similar as well. It's time to clean the Augean Stables.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2023 12:22 PM (eOEVl)
++++
Sure. He - and those like him - should be prosecuted.

But the agencies should all be destroyed. The rot is total. Some scalps need to be taken for symbolic benefit, but the agencies cannot be saved by prosecuting the offenders because, for all intents and purposes, *everyone* in them is an offender. They need to razed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2023 12:24 PM (t0OGg)

73 He quotes a CIA analyst who was reluctant to share his own conclusion that the virus came from a lab, saying, "I don't want our intelligence being used to support those [Trump's] policies."

That sounds a lot like treason. Can we just nuke Langley now?

Posted by: Ian S. at April 19, 2023 12:24 PM (ZGrMX)

74 That's funny, a couple of nights ago I had a dream that Flounder came to the TXMoMe.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 19, 2023 12:18 PM (DRSnL)

Heh...you fucked up and trusted him didn't ya...

Posted by: Otter at April 19, 2023 12:24 PM (CCSxw)

75 SPONGE!!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 19, 2023 12:24 PM (FAGAJ)

76
It came from the lab for sure. And in my estimation, it was not a "leak" implying an accident.

It was malice. Then again, if it was an accident it shows the level of care, competence, quality of the Chi-Coms.

The result though was the perfect cover the Chi-Coms and the Leftists here to sabotage Trump and then complete the takeover of the government begun 100 years or so ago.

Crisis status: [X] Not Wasted.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 19, 2023 12:24 PM (x0n13)

77 Fauci should be hanged by the neck until dead for crimes against humanity.

That's my favorite Queensryche song.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 19, 2023 12:25 PM (ppBhU)

78 Oopsie

Oopsie

Oh well

Posted by: Montec at April 19, 2023 12:25 PM (PFlS3)

79 The poor pangolins and bats were used as scapegoats.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 19, 2023 12:25 PM (NpAcC)

80 Sponge

#3.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 19, 2023 12:25 PM (6Egig)

81 There were multiple releases. Remember how everyone figured they had it in 2019 because everyone everywhere had that persistent cough? And we were all a bunch of conspiracy theorists? Remember the "vaping pneumonia" that suddenly disappeared from the news?

"“Epidemiological and genetic molecular analyses of the early published circulating Wuhan SARS-CoV-2 strains supported the possibility of two spillover events two or more weeks apart,” reads the report, issued by Sen. Roger Marshall, Kansas Republican and a medical doctor... “One lineage showing more mutations than the other implying it had been circulated longer than the other or had potentially passed through more individuals.”

https://tinyurl.com/2dac648t

Posted by: They're lying, the bulk of EVs aren't being sold to private individuals at April 19, 2023 12:25 PM (PW63N)

82 51 I do not understand why we ever send money to labs in other countries unless it is for illegal purposes. These other governments are perfectly capable of funding their own research. This proves that if it is too dangerouos to do in the US, it is too dangerous to do anywhere because global traffic makes it impossible to contain disastrous results.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
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You got it right at illegal purposes. Post Cold War, the US sponsored a bunch of research on evil things like viruses and nuclear stuff in the former Soviet Republics because they wanted to keep those scientists employed and controlled rather than selling their services to North Korea, etc.

Then it became a convenient way to do bad shit with the consequences borne by people in those places. This is btw with full support by the national security apparatus such as CIA and the military. Both have argued such research is necessary to protect the US population in case other countries develop these agents to use against the US. That is the situation leading to Wuhan and Fauci/Danszak are the front guys of this DeepState initiative.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 12:25 PM (t9aCs)

83 That's weird, last night I had a dream where Gwen Stefani was after me for a date. I kept telling her I was flattered, but I'm a married man.

Posted by: Archer at April 19, 2023 12:23 PM (gmo/4)

What did you eat last night? I want a detailed recipe.

Posted by: ... at April 19, 2023 12:25 PM (iCWt+)

84 In the face of a massive government cover-up, John Ratcliffe and Donald Trump did their best to make this clear to the public three years ago. Even if the House had any plans to actually hold China responsible, at minimum they have to purge the entire Biden regime for being complicit with it all.

In the face of that, the Chinese contention that the pandemic was part of America's "gain of function" bioweapons program makes more sense than anything coming out of Washington since 2021.

Posted by: trev006 at April 19, 2023 12:26 PM (DTm0P)

85 That's funny, a couple of nights ago I had a dream that Flounder came to the TXMoMe.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 19, 2023 12:18 PM

But was he shy about helping himself to punch and cookies?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 19, 2023 12:26 PM (FAGAJ)

86 More here, noting that there is no evidence of any natural cause for the virus, no animal found who carried an intermediate stage of the virus, no evidence at all for a "natural spillover."

---------

"But I was assured by the Ministers of Truth in the MDM-MSM recently that, having followed THE SCIENCE, the origin of the COVID bio-weapon was Raccoon Dogs in the Wuhan Wet Market! REEEEEEEEEEEE!"

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 19, 2023 12:26 PM (aBhTh)

87 That's weird, last night I had a dream where Gwen Stefani was after me for a date. I kept telling her I was flattered, but I'm a married man.

Posted by: Archer at April 19, 2023 12:23 PM (gmo/4)

Don't you hate it when you have values and morals in your dreams?

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 19, 2023 12:26 PM (DRSnL)

88 "Look folks, if we admitted at the time what we knew was the truth, it would have meant war with China."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 19, 2023 12:18 PM (MoZTd)

=============

It also would have meant war with the US Deep State Professional Bureaucrats that PAID the Wuhan Institute of Virology to research the Bat Coronaviruses that led to COVID.

Posted by: rd at April 19, 2023 12:26 PM (Z32m1)

89 "We have to create viruses so we can make the vaccines for the viruses once they escape!"

Posted by: gourmand du jour, not a place kicker at April 19, 2023 12:26 PM (jTmQV)

90 If it can be proven that a CIA analyst said this (or better yet, wrote it somewhere), that person needs to be fired and brought up on charges. They are not there to pass judgement on the policies of the duly elected representatives of the people.

--

I assume this means it's written down:

"as reflected in the January 6, 2021 report by the intelligence community’s
analytic ombudsman."

Posted by: They're lying, the bulk of EVs aren't being sold to private individuals at April 19, 2023 12:26 PM (PW63N)

91 So when do the dick heads fess up and admit the infrared images of open air pyres to burn the bodies in China were real an not a conspiracy theory too?

Posted by: Archer at April 19, 2023 12:26 PM (gmo/4)

92 59 I do not understand why we ever send money to labs in other countries unless it is for illegal purposes. These other governments are perfectly capable of funding their own research. This proves that if it is too dangerouos to do in the US, it is too dangerous to do anywhere because global traffic makes it impossible to contain disastrous results.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 19, 2023 12:20 PM (Y+l9t)
++++
It's illegal to do it here. It's also illegal to fund it abroad, but there is a better chance of getting away with it if you go that route.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2023 12:21 PM (t0OGg)
________________

It's also mostly money-laundering and influence-peddling. The whole Wuhan lab was a joke. My high school lab had better security and safety protocols. The Wuhan lab was basically a cheap movie set built to make it look like serious lab work was being done. But it was really just a front to launder and steal money.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 19, 2023 12:27 PM (iFTx/)

93 I had a nightmare about Ace once. It involved shelving.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2023 12:27 PM (atmen)

94 Never forget, the communists are always about the science.

also, where is the Nashville killers manifesto?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 19, 2023 12:27 PM (DMyTF)

95 The Biden Administration is very, very upset that Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov is in Brasilia, making nice with Lula.

Lula has always been Putin's poodle - perhaps you should have thought of that before making sure that Lula won the election.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 19, 2023 12:27 PM (2tUFv)

96 But the agencies should all be destroyed. The rot is total. Some scalps need to be taken for symbolic benefit, but the agencies cannot be saved by prosecuting the offenders because, for all intents and purposes, *everyone* in them is an offender. They need to razed.

I knew someone would say this, but I'm not sure it's possible, and in any case, there are some good, innocent people at those agencies. Probably.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2023 12:27 PM (eOEVl)

97 Heads will roll on the usual timeframe then?

The twelfth of never, right?

Posted by: Just Lily at April 19, 2023 12:27 PM (OTXZs)

98 How much credit is due to Jon Stewart? How much derision to Colbert?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at April 19, 2023 12:28 PM (iOTWL)

99 I do not understand why we ever send money to labs in other countries unless it is for illegal purposes. These other governments are perfectly capable of funding their own research. This proves that if it is too dangerouos to do in the US, it is too dangerous to do anywhere because global traffic makes it impossible to contain disastrous results.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

---

"It's always for illegal purposes."
- Narrator

Posted by: They're lying, the bulk of EVs aren't being sold to private individuals at April 19, 2023 12:28 PM (PW63N)

100 "Look folks, if we admitted at the time what we knew was the truth, it would have meant war with China."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

When we're trying to start a war with Russia.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 19, 2023 12:28 PM (FVME7)

101 The chinese lady that worked at the lab said it was an intenional
leak

the protocols were too tight for it too be an accident

like a bank employee walking out with a million bucks

not accidental

it was deliberate

Posted by: REDACTED at April 19, 2023 12:28 PM (us2H3)

102 I saw Analytic Ombudsman open for…

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2023 12:28 PM (atmen)

103 Decades ago when scientists started playing god with pathogens, the justification was that the research would help manage/contain future disease pandemics.

A few people in high places grew concerned. International agreements were made amongst NATO countries that gain-of-function research wouldn't occur on their soil.

Fast forward to present time and we all see that they have this "god" complex pretty ingrained. An entire industry has sprung up around genetics, mutations, and gain of function.

Gain of function was effectively outsourced to non-NATO countries (China, Ukraine, etc). People got sloppy in their procedures due to corruption and/or incompetence. We got COVID.

There is no way to put this genie back in the bottle. And nobody will ever be held accountable - at least in this life. But there is one Judge who they must face.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 19, 2023 12:28 PM (N39Ws)

104 But was he shy about helping himself to punch and cookies?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 19, 2023 12:26 PM (FAGAJ)

Wait, there's punch?!

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 19, 2023 12:28 PM (DRSnL)

105 In the face of a massive government cover-up, John Ratcliffe and Donald Trump did their best to make this clear to the public three years ago. Even if the House had any plans to actually hold China responsible, at minimum they have to purge the entire Biden regime for being complicit with it all. ...
Posted by: trev006 at April 19, 2023 12:26 PM (DTm0P)
++++
The entire government, at this point.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2023 12:28 PM (t0OGg)

106 The poor pangolins and bats were used as scapegoats.

Where do we go to get our reputations back?

Posted by: pangolins and bats at April 19, 2023 12:29 PM (eOEVl)

107 How much credit is due to Jon Stewart? How much derision to Colbert?
Posted by: Farmer Bob at April 19, 2023 12:28 PM

A very small amount. All.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 19, 2023 12:29 PM (FAGAJ)

108 The Biden Administration is very, very upset that Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov is in Brasilia, making nice with Lula.

Lula has always been Putin's poodle - perhaps you should have thought of that before making sure that Lula won the election.

The CIA doesn't care, as long as we're still advancing towards neo-feudalism and eating ze boogs.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 19, 2023 12:29 PM (ZGrMX)

109 Yep.

But it doesn't matter, because there will be no justice or punishment. Just like the Waco massacre that happened on this day un 1993, which nobody paid a single hint of a price for murdering dozens of innocents over a disagreement in religious belief.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 19, 2023 12:29 PM (0hOvj)

110 There is no way to put this genie back in the bottle. And nobody will ever be held accountable - at least in this life. But there is one Judge who they must face.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 19, 2023 12:28 PM (N39Ws)

Amen.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 19, 2023 12:29 PM (DRSnL)

111 Fauci is a war criminal.

He needs to be tried, convicted, all his wealth confiscated, then publicly executed.

Posted by: Pete at April 19, 2023 12:29 PM (9uoO8)

112 >>Never forget, the communists are always about the science.

That. And accurate Statistics and Reporting.

Posted by: garrett at April 19, 2023 12:29 PM (P7IZS)

113 63 I think Fox was the only news corp saying it came from a lab leak.
Posted by: redridinghood

When Fox comes out and names the CIA and DoD as the funders and reason for it--wake me up. This is a limited modified hangout coverup after the fact with Fauci and Danszak as the scapegoats--please ignore the CIA and DoD behind the curtain funding this shit.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 12:30 PM (t9aCs)

114 "He quotes a CIA analyst who was reluctant to share his own conclusion that the virus came from a lab, saying, "I don't want our intelligence being used to support those [Trump's] policies."

Trump's "anti-China" policies. So even though intelligence knew China is a threat to US and the world, they don't want a President Trump who would fight that threat.

The CIA wanted (still wants) their China compliant puppet, corrupt old Joe, even if that means they have to help steal an election to accomplish their (anti-American activities) end.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 19, 2023 12:30 PM (Cus5s)

115 "My God, can you believe how screwed up things were under Trump that something like this could even happen?"

"I know, right?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2023 12:30 PM (9UlRk)

116 Wait, there's punch?!
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 19, 2023 12:28 PM

What? You didn't get to sample the craft cocktails?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 19, 2023 12:30 PM (FAGAJ)

117 Don't you hate it when you have values and morals in your dreams?

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 19, 2023 12:26 PM (DRSnL)

Yes! Darn conscience, it's stronger than I realized!

Posted by: Archer at April 19, 2023 12:30 PM (gmo/4)

118 Hopefully, Xi is wondering if 10% for the Big Guy was enough! Or maybe a little more to Mitch will do the trick?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 19, 2023 12:30 PM (AcLxR)

119 I recall chatting with my Chinese students just before Thanksgiving 2019, asking them if anyone was going home for the holidays.
None.
And they were pretty secretive about it until one finally admitted their parents told them to stay in America. Nothing was said about bad meat.
They knew.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 19, 2023 12:30 PM (anj39)

120 "Look folks, if we admitted at the time what we knew was the truth, it would have meant war with China."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Looking at the social/physical/emotional toll incurred by us all and our families -- I fail to see the downside to a war with China. I'm sure there are plenty of "highly motivated" individuals who want some payback.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 19, 2023 12:30 PM (N39Ws)

121 109 Yep.

But it doesn't matter, because there will be no justice or punishment. Just like the Waco massacre that happened on this day un 1993, which nobody paid a single hint of a price for murdering dozens of innocents over a disagreement in religious belief.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
---------
Mistakes were made.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 12:30 PM (t9aCs)

122 I knew someone would say this, but I'm not sure it's possible, and in any case, there are some good, innocent people at those agencies. Probably.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2023 12:27 PM (eOEVl)
++++
This is one the benefit to an approach like the one at the Nuremberg trials. Most of the guilty will walk away, but walk away crippled forever. Those who are punished are the most guilty. The structures are destroyed and the malefactors afraid to ever step out of line again.

Any innocent person - and the probably are a few - won't be destroyed by it. And the society has a chance to survive it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2023 12:30 PM (t0OGg)

123 I knew someone would say this, but I'm not sure it's possible, and in any case, there are some good, innocent people at those agencies. Probably.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2023 12:27 PM (eOEVl)

Tough titty. Lay down with the dogs and get up with the fleas.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 19, 2023 12:30 PM (pohLc)

124 POLITICO Playbook
@playbookdc
DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas testifies today before the House Homeland Security Committee and Rocket Man himself Elton John will testify at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing. More on today's hearings on the Hill in our Daily Briefing:

-
Well, Elton knows foreign relations up the ass.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 19, 2023 12:31 PM (FVME7)

125 I knew someone would say this, but I'm not sure it's possible, and in any case, there are some good, innocent people at those agencies. Probably.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2023 12:27 PM (eOEVl)
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How many good, innocent people have been murdered as a result of the actions of those agencies?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2023 12:31 PM (YIVH2)

126 Fauci is worse than a war criminal.

A war criminal unleashes death and havoc upon civilians to win a war. Fauci did it in peacetime just to make a buck.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2023 12:31 PM (9UlRk)

127 The Durham Waco Report is due any day now.

Posted by: ... at April 19, 2023 12:31 PM (iCWt+)

128 ground-glass opacities in the lungs." That's due to covid making lung tissue crystallize, ending that tissue's functioning.

Posted by Ace...

Ace...That is incorrect. It just describes how it looks on the X-Ray. The tissue doesn't crystallize. And in most cases it heals.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2023 12:31 PM (A3700)

129 Where do we go to get our reputations back?
Posted by: pangolins and bats at April 19, 2023 12:29 PM (eOEVl)
*******
Ace's Cafe?

Posted by: redridinghood at April 19, 2023 12:31 PM (NpAcC)

130 Happy 248th anniversary of the Battles of Lexington and Concord.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2023 12:31 PM (atmen)

131 82 51
You got it right at illegal purposes. Post Cold War, the US sponsored a bunch of research on evil things like viruses and nuclear stuff in the former Soviet Republics because they wanted to keep those scientists employed and controlled rather than selling their services to North Korea, etc.

Then it became a convenient way to do bad shit with the consequences borne by people in those places. This is btw with full support by the national security apparatus such as CIA and the military. Both have argued such research is necessary to protect the US population in case other countries develop these agents to use against the US. That is the situation leading to Wuhan and Fauci/Danszak are the front guys of this DeepState initiative.
Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 12:25 PM (t9aCs)

==================

Why would the US finance research of its primary economic adversary (adversary, not enemy) which was quite capable of funding its own research? Why would we encourage their own researchers to come to our labs? Why?

Posted by: rd at April 19, 2023 12:32 PM (Z32m1)

132 man, The Science sure seems willing to lie at the drop of a hat. i'll have to remember to forget that when climate scientists tell me that the planet is burning up.

Posted by: x at April 19, 2023 12:32 PM (ZBPE2)

133 It should be pointed out that covid was caused when an elderly white man shot a young Black chairman Xi Jinping who had thought he was entering Joe Biden's beach house.
Posted by: CtHillary, dead but dreaming at April 19, 2023 12:21 PM (zSyrn)

Did Joe Biden invite the shot black red chinaman to the white house for dinner?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 19, 2023 12:32 PM (uv/1i)

134 When people here dream about Ace, does he look like an ewok?

Posted by: DJ at April 19, 2023 12:32 PM (H5y4s)

135 Page 167 of the Report:

During the summer of 2019, the tone and content of internal WIV reports shifts. Previously internal
reports pressed WIV researchers to increase the pace of scientific advancement and domestic innovation
while reminding them of the importance of biosafety and biosecurity. From June to August 2019 these
internal reports show a similar level of focus on solving the “stranglehold” problem and achieving scientific
breakthroughs as past reports. However, the internal reports prepared during this time period express much
more concrete “foundational problems” and “shortcomings” regarding biosafety and biosecurity lapses at
the WIV.
As one report during this time period noted, WIV researchers must “personally strengthen their
awareness of unexpected risks, to prevent and control the risks of [the spread of infectious disease] at all
times.” Multiple reports stress the need to mitigate risk through better supervision with middle management
at the WIV coming under criticism for unidentified shortcomings related to biosafety.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2023 12:32 PM (BRHaw)

136 File this under no shit, Sherlock.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 19, 2023 12:32 PM (u73oe)

137 Two leaks from what I have heard now.

Posted by: artisanal ette at April 19, 2023 12:33 PM (uQPen)

138 So the pharmaceutical companies got massive human testing of the mRNA injections, and suppressed the problems with it, clearing the way for mRNA production and distribution from here on out.

Hey, do any of the pharmaceutical companies have business interests in China?

Posted by: They're lying, the bulk of EVs aren't being sold to private individuals at April 19, 2023 12:33 PM (PW63N)

139 Where do we go to get our reputations back?
Posted by: pangolins and bats at April 19, 2023 12:29 PM (eOEVl)
*******
Ace's Cafe?

Nope, it has become an all-gaur and boobies place now.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2023 12:33 PM (eOEVl)

140
But Ratcliff was appointed by OrangeManBad, so anything he has to say is irrelevant wrongthink which should be ignored, and he should be tried and executed eleventy*#!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 19, 2023 12:33 PM (n+4am)

141 All true, all true...
But China will not be held accountable, even though if you dismissed ALL OF THE ABOVE, they knew that they had a problem so bad, that they stopped all travel in and out of Wuhan, EXCEPT FOR INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS.
They knowingly exported whatever the hell was so bad, while trying to keep it from spreading within their own country.
(This of course is giving them the benefit of the doubt that they did NOT know it was Covid from their own lab...which they absolutely DID KNOW.)

Posted by: Uncle Jefe at April 19, 2023 12:33 PM (gAuAm)

142 The Durham Waco Report is due any day now.

Waco report? That's easy to write. "DC residents should stay far away, Chip and Joanna Gaines own half of the town and they're icky Christians".

Posted by: Ian S. at April 19, 2023 12:33 PM (ZGrMX)

143

Senate GOP report raises possibility of two lab leaks triggering COVID
https://tinyurl.com/4u8amr6f

NYPOST

Posted by: artisanal ette at April 19, 2023 12:34 PM (uQPen)

144 120 "Look folks, if we admitted at the time what we knew was the truth, it would have meant war with China."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Looking at the social/physical/emotional toll incurred by us all and our families -- I fail to see the downside to a war with China. I'm sure there are plenty of "highly motivated" individuals who want some payback.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
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It probably would not have been war due to the US funding the shit. But, it would have enabled Trump to destroy the China-American pipeline of dollars sent back to the US which Megacorps, politicians, and the financial industry would hate.

It does indicate though the US Deep State and Megacorps are malevolent POS that hate the people of the US and probably most of the world. Schwab calling for a 90 percent reduction in the world population is perfectly inline with what they are thinking.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 12:34 PM (t9aCs)

145 Wow, Ace! This is fricking dynamite.

Posted by: gp's Faulty Terathrust at April 19, 2023 12:34 PM (MvF+J)

146 Looking at the social/physical/emotional toll incurred by us all and our families -- I fail to see the downside to a war with China. I'm sure there are plenty of "highly motivated" individuals who want some payback.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 19, 2023 12:30 PM (N39Ws)

What do you estimate the casualties will be on our side?

Estimations in the millions is fine.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 19, 2023 12:34 PM (5rBf5)

147 Forget all of the noise, let's use logic and reason...

Is it more likely that a Novel Bat Coronavirus emerged naturally from a Sea Food Wet Market or from a Level 4 Bio Safety lab that was conduction gain of function research on bat coronaviruses?

Hmm..

I know which one I am putting my money on.

Or Alternatively...

Everything is an Op.
Everything is Bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 19, 2023 12:34 PM (up/3i)

148 Page 46
More than 9,000 international athletes from over 109 countries traveled to Wuhan for the Military
World Games running October 18 through October 27, 2019.
Many of them, including athletes from
France, Italy, Germany, Luxembourg, and Canada, reportedly became ill while in Wuhan, or shortly after
returning to their countries, with non-specific symptoms consistent with COVID-19.305,306,307 Eleven Iranian
athletes reportedly died of COVID-19, including some who participated in the Military World Games,
although information on these deaths is limited.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2023 12:34 PM (BRHaw)

149 "had the specific symptoms of "loss of smell" and "ground-glass opacities in the lungs." That's due to covid making lung tissue crystallize, ending that tissue's functioning. "

Y'know, what this tells me is that chest x-rays would have been more diagnostic of Coof cases than sinal excavation with a cotton covered stick.

Yet nobody was recommending that.

Funny, that.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at April 19, 2023 12:35 PM (ou9hh)

150 >Crisis status: [X] Not Wasted.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 19, 2023 12:24 PM (x0n13)

I think Event 201 is the smoking gun that damn near proves this was all a get-Trump conspiracy.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at April 19, 2023 12:35 PM (TIcXN)

151 > "I don't want our intelligence being used to support those [Trump's] policies."

Yep. The IC is lying to the highest levels of government to push their preferred policies. I believe this is treason. Government officials make decisions that they know will kill people based on the information the IC provides them. If that information is falsified, the analyst is also at least morally guilty of murder, if not in law.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 19, 2023 12:35 PM (j2Xg6)

152 don't let Elton John go down on me

Posted by: REDACTED at April 19, 2023 12:35 PM (us2H3)

153
Why would the US finance research of its primary economic adversary (adversary, not enemy) which was quite capable of funding its own research? Why would we encourage their own researchers to come to our labs? Why?

Posted by: rd

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Because we've been living under a well constructed facade of "freedom" and "choice" since the mid 70s or so, and things have reached the point that they people in charge are comfortable pulling the shroud away. They don't care what you think now because they don't have to.

Posted by: They're lying, the bulk of EVs aren't being sold to private individuals at April 19, 2023 12:35 PM (PW63N)

154 the Marshall report

https://tinyurl.com/mdyun8ha

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2023 12:36 PM (BRHaw)

155 Media Research Center
@theMRC
Brian Stelter says he has no idea why he was fired from CNN:
"I think we were doing fantastic journalism at CNN for the nine years that I was there."

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That's a head scratcher, alright.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 19, 2023 12:36 PM (FVME7)

156 he Biden Administration is very, very upset that Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov is in Brasilia, making nice with Lula.

Lula has always been Putin's poodle - perhaps you should have thought of that before making sure that Lula won the election.
+++
It is pretty amazing that the Biden administration manages to do the exact opposite of what should be done in every single case.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 19, 2023 12:36 PM (Y+l9t)

157 The entire government, at this point.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2023 12:28 PM (t0OGg)

The NIH, FBI, CIA, Pentagon, and the Department of Education for good measure. That's most of it.

But the bigger problem is simple: the Biden regime is asleep at the switch while China and Russia gain allies in Brazil and KSA. The situation is very close to Pearl Harbor, except with the USA in the position of facing down an industrial juggernaut with global reach.

Posted by: trev006 at April 19, 2023 12:36 PM (DTm0P)

158 POLITICO Playbook
@playbookdc
DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas testifies today before the House Homeland Security Committee and Rocket Man himself Elton John will testify at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing. More on today's hearings on the Hill in our Daily Briefing:

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Well, Elton knows foreign relations up the ass.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 19, 2023 12:31 PM (FVME7)
***

So...a slow day on the Hill then.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 19, 2023 12:36 PM (anj39)

159 I recall chatting with my Chinese students just before Thanksgiving 2019, asking them if anyone was going home for the holidays.
None.
And they were pretty secretive about it until one finally admitted their parents told them to stay in America. Nothing was said about bad meat.
They knew.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 19, 2023 12:30 PM (anj39)

================

The "World Military Games" were held near Wuhan China in the Fall of 2019. There were lots of unexplained "respiratory illnesses" amongst the foreign teams, especially the Canadian Team.

Posted by: rd at April 19, 2023 12:36 PM (Z32m1)

160 Can someone cheer me up?

Posted by: ... at April 19, 2023 12:36 PM (iCWt+)

161 In the history of cable news talk shows there is one who stands above all others. Who is it?

Posted by: JmT at April 19, 2023 12:36 PM (o3pN8)

162 I think Event 201 is the smoking gun that damn near proves this was all a get-Trump conspiracy.

Not just Trump. They also color revolution'd Bolsonaro and they're currently doing it to Bibi.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 19, 2023 12:36 PM (ZGrMX)

163 Tangential: I've often wondered what would become of the many thousands of contact tracers who were hired by state and local Public Health Departments during COVID, once the pandemic receded. I have suspected that they would somehow be kept on, in a different role, to be available for future Crises of Convenience as needed.

Our county Public Health Dept. has announced a new five-person team tasked with developing and maintaining hiking and biking trails (a function already covered by city and county Parks and Recreation departments. This five-person team brings "a collective 10 years of experience" in the public health arena. Ten years experience distributed among five people suggests that they were first hired within the last, oh 2-4 years. Makes me wonder.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2023 12:36 PM (ykeLU)

164 >Both have argued such research is necessary to protect the US population in case other countries develop these agents to use against the US. That is the situation leading to Wuhan and Fauci/Danszak are the front guys of this DeepState initiative.
Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 12:25 PM (t9aCs)

Does anyone here really think they would use such ill-gotten gains to protect the general public under such a scenario? Of course not. It would be sequestered and administered only to the "elite".

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at April 19, 2023 12:37 PM (TIcXN)

165
Ace...That is incorrect. It just describes how it looks on the X-Ray. The tissue doesn't crystallize. And in most cases it heals.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2023 12:31 PM

My wife had three scans. The initial one measuring the GG abnormalities in cm. The subsequent scan showed them getting smaller. The last scan they were gone but with some minor scarring.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 19, 2023 12:37 PM (enJYY)

166 Eleven Iranian
athletes reportedly died of COVID-19, including some who participated in the Military World Games,
although information on these deaths is limited.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2023 12:34 PM (BRHaw)

And a mere few months later falling off a ladder would result in a COVID death.

Weird, huh?

Posted by: Just Lily at April 19, 2023 12:37 PM (OTXZs)

167 The situation is very close to Pearl Harbor, except with the USA in the position of facing down an industrial juggernaut with global reach.

No problem. We'll deploy the Strategic Pronoun Reserve.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2023 12:37 PM (eOEVl)

168 Would acknowledgment that it was a lab leak have saved any lives?

If yes, then a blizzard of wrongful death cases should torment Fauci, Collins, Zuckerberg, individual CIA agents, etc., to the end of their days.

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at April 19, 2023 12:37 PM (gf7Ez)

169
I think Fox was the only news corp saying it came from a lab leak.
Posted by: redridinghood

China should sue Fox. It worked for Dominion.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 19, 2023 12:37 PM (63Dwl)

170 Well at least we know who killed JFK

Posted by: artisanal ette at April 19, 2023 12:38 PM (uQPen)

171 111 Fauci is a war criminal.

He needs to be tried, convicted, all his wealth confiscated, then publicly executed.

Posted by: Pete at April 19, 2023 12:29 PM (9uoO

++++

For every Fauci worshiper who hand crafted needle point pillows with his face on them, there are probably tens of thousands if not millions of Fauci loving fools out there who will not listen to a single word of condemnation of the fine doctor.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 19, 2023 12:38 PM (jWvBS)

172 Can someone cheer me up?
Posted by: ... at April 19, 2023 12:36 PM (iCWt+)

Boobs!

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 19, 2023 12:38 PM (DRSnL)

173 The "World Military Games" were held near Wuhan China in the Fall of 2019. There were lots of unexplained "respiratory illnesses" amongst the foreign teams, especially the Canadian Team.
Posted by: rd at April 19, 2023 12:36 PM (Z32m1)

see above killed 11 Iranians

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2023 12:38 PM (BRHaw)

174 Re-Read these:
156 he Biden Administration is very, very upset that Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov is in Brasilia, making nice with Lula.

Lula has always been Putin's poodle - perhaps you should have thought of that before making sure that Lula won the election.
+++
It is pretty amazing that the Biden administration manages to do the exact opposite of what should be done in every single case.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 19, 2023 12:36 PM (Y+l9t)

157 The entire government, at this point.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2023 12:28 PM (t0OGg)

The NIH, FBI, CIA, Pentagon, and the Department of Education for good measure. That's most of it.

But the bigger problem is simple: the Biden regime is asleep at the switch while China and Russia gain allies in Brazil and KSA. The situation is very close to Pearl Harbor, except with the USA in the position of facing down an industrial juggernaut with global reach.
Posted by: trev006 at April 19, 2023 12:36 PM (DTm0P

You are witnessing the destruction of the American Superpower as it happens.

Posted by: rd at April 19, 2023 12:39 PM (Z32m1)

175 Why would the US finance research of its primary economic adversary (adversary, not enemy) which was quite capable of funding its own research? Why would we encourage their own researchers to come to our labs? Why?
Posted by: rd
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CIA and intel community want to keep tabs on them and probably recruit a few along the way as sources. When you consider that essentially old bureaucracies operate largely without brain controlling them, they do stupid things and then have the wherewithal to cover up their misdeeds.

The only way a bureaucracy functions well is if you have some sonuvabitch like Admiral Rickover running the nuke sub program or Curtis LeMay running SAC that set the standards of operation and behavior.

The CIA and DoD bureaucracies have no such leaders and are still running on stupid Cold War precepts where public safety is traded off for more information is always better.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 12:39 PM (t9aCs)

176 Waco report? That's easy to write. "DC residents should stay far away, Chip and Joanna Gaines own half of the town and they're icky Christians".
Posted by: Ian S. at April 19, 2023 12:33 PM (ZGrMX

Yes , but they fell for the BLM shit

Posted by: It's me donna at April 19, 2023 12:39 PM (bs+z0)

177 "I don't want our intelligence being used to support those [Trump's] policies."

Is it weird I don't even believe this? They bring Trump's name into it because it helps justify the bs they've been caught up in to their sleeping sheep and even makes some people on "our" side think "yeah I guess Trump was pretty divisive"

The truth is they were doing what the fuck they wanted, it had fuck all to do with Trump other than the fact that he was a monkey in the wrench of their plans.

Posted by: ... at April 19, 2023 12:39 PM (AOHti)

178 I think Fox was the only news corp saying it came from a lab leak.
Posted by: redridinghood

China should sue Fox. It worked for Dominion.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 19, 2023 12:37 PM (63Dwl)

the barrage of lawsuits raining down as a consequence of fox cowardness is insane - They are trying to totally destroy anyone associated with Trump, MAGA movement, and especially donors like the my pillow guy.

Posted by: artisanal ette at April 19, 2023 12:39 PM (uQPen)

179 "He also says that people like Fauci and Francis Collins lied about covid's origins because they didn't want "unwarranted attention" regarding the links between American researchers and the Wuhan Lab's researchers, as well as the "sources of funding" for those Wuhan researchers."

Of course it's being covered up. The US Gov't knows that it's on the hook for at least half of the trillions of dollars in damages caused by COVID - with China's assistance and general incompetence.

This information will never officially see the light of day.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 19, 2023 12:39 PM (jX7Bl)

180 Our county Public Health Dept. has announced a new five-person team tasked with developing and maintaining hiking and biking trails (a function already covered by city and county Parks and Recreation departments. This five-person team brings "a collective 10 years of experience" in the public health arena. Ten years experience distributed among five people suggests that they were first hired within the last, oh 2-4 years. Makes me wonder.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2023 12:36 PM (ykeLU)
***

Snort!
I wonder who's kids they are?

Posted by: Diogenes at April 19, 2023 12:40 PM (anj39)

181 B&?

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 19, 2023 12:40 PM (5rBf5)

182 Y'know, what this tells me is that chest x-rays would have been more diagnostic of Coof cases than sinal excavation with a cotton covered stick.

Yet nobody was recommending that.

Funny, that.

XRay diagnostics are more expensive and cause some harm to the patient. There are likely not enough machines to test millions of people a day like they could do with an easy to execute and review cotton swab test. Maybe there is conspiracy here, but I doubt it.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 19, 2023 12:40 PM (j2Xg6)

183 When is all is said and done, Dr. Mengele will be seen as an angel compared to Fauci. Mengele's death count will be an order of magnitude less than Fauci's.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 19, 2023 12:40 PM (17s+e)

184 I am shocked, SHOCKED to find there is gambling going on in here.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 19, 2023 12:40 PM (xhaym)

185 Can someone cheer me up?
Posted by: ...

*******

Wanna borrow my pony?

(If I had one)

Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2023 12:41 PM (ykeLU)

186 The Lolita Express and Epstein Island is why no one is fighting what is going on all across America (and abroad).
The big honey pot blackmail scam.

Posted by: artisanal ette at April 19, 2023 12:41 PM (uQPen)

187 When people here dream about Ace, does he look like an ewok?

Posted by: DJ

Nope

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 19, 2023 12:41 PM (Y+l9t)

188
The chinese lady that worked at the lab said it was an intenional leak the protocols were too tight for it too be an accident like a bank employee walking out with a million bucks not accidental

it was deliberate
Posted by: REDACTED

Hell, I've been saying that here since day one. I'm virtually certain that it was released in order to shut down the Hong Kong protests which were just beginning to spread across China. That scared the shit out of Xi and the other commie cocksuckers that run the place. So a nice little pandemic gives them the excuse to lock down HK and squash the protests like a bug, all without causing the West to start talking economic sanctions/boycotts. Releasing the Chinese Lung Rot in Wuhan rather than HK was a matter of the Chi-Coms trying to be clever.

Of course, with typical Chinee efficiency, the virus got away from them and spread worldwide. Oops, so sorry.

That's why the first few months of Chinee excuses were so haphazard, as they flailed about trying to blame it on everyone else. At various times, they claimed that the virus came from Italy, the US and Australia, and probably others that I'm missing.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 19, 2023 12:41 PM (n+4am)

189 You are witnessing the destruction of the American Superpower as it happens.
Posted by: rd

Not a bad thing necessarily. We are friends of freedom everywhere but guardians only of our own--it is a pretty worthwhile statement of what American foreign policy should be. Pity John Q. Adams is more or less in the history dustbin.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 12:41 PM (t9aCs)

190 XRay diagnostics are more expensive and cause some harm to the patient. There are likely not enough machines to test millions of people a day like they could do with an easy to execute and review cotton swab test. Maybe there is conspiracy here, but I doubt it.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 19, 2023 12:40 PM (j2Xg6)

Sure could crank out all those respirators though, couldn't we. And most of them are sitting where - in some scrap heap?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 19, 2023 12:42 PM (N39Ws)

191 XRay diagnostics are more expensive and cause some harm to the patient. There are likely not enough machines to test millions of people a day like they could do with an easy to execute and review cotton swab test. Maybe there is conspiracy here, but I doubt it.

To say nothing of all the people who were infected but asymptomatic, or at least had no symptoms visible by x-ray. X-rays are not a panacea.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2023 12:42 PM (eOEVl)

192
I am shocked, SHOCKED to find there is gambling going on in here.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 19, 2023 12:40 PM

I got twenty bucks that says you're wrong.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 19, 2023 12:42 PM (enJYY)

193 Yes , but they fell for the BLM shit

I hadn't heard that. In any case, the hysterics the middle-aged cat ladies on Reddit get into about those two are fricking hilarious. How dare they not understand that gays and trans are the holiest of us all.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 19, 2023 12:42 PM (ZGrMX)

194 On the upside I'm re-watching the Kraken/Avalanche game. Seattle still wins!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 19, 2023 12:43 PM (anj39)

195 >But it doesn't matter, because there will be no justice or punishment. Just like the Waco massacre that happened on this day un 1993, which nobody paid a single hint of a price for murdering dozens of innocents over a disagreement in religious belief.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 19, 2023 12:29 PM (0hOvj)

Aww, what's the sporting fun in quietly arresting Koresh with a half-dozen agents when he ventures out, when instead you can instead deploy all of your tacticool shit, shoot dogs, and murder a bunch of innocent women and children by fiery death? I mean, the media even portrays you as Big Damn Heroes!!

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at April 19, 2023 12:43 PM (TIcXN)

196 So what I'm hearing is that all the stonewalling and misdirection of the Covids from members of the media, government, social media and scientific communities was due to them being infected with Hammer and Sickle Cell Anemia.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at April 19, 2023 12:43 PM (MnTZ8)

197 don't let Elton John go down on me
Posted by: REDACTED at April 19, 2023 12:35 PM

"I'm still ~~standing~~ kneeling...."

- Elton John

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 19, 2023 12:43 PM (FAGAJ)

198 If you want a real conspiracy, COVID was an international effort to develop a virus that would kill a bunch of old people.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 19, 2023 12:43 PM (cMXNt)

199 "Ground-glass opacities in the lungs" -- making lung tissue crystallize? Now *that* sounds like something out of a horror novel or SF thriller. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2023 12:44 PM (J2vNu)

200 199 "Ground-glass opacities in the lungs" -- making lung tissue crystallize? Now *that* sounds like something out of a horror novel or SF thriller. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2023 12:44 PM (J2vNu)

IIRC, that's what the virus in the Andromeda Strain did.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 19, 2023 12:44 PM (jX7Bl)

201 XRay diagnostics are more expensive and cause some harm to the patient. There are likely not enough machines to test millions of people a day like they could do with an easy to execute and review cotton swab test. Maybe there is conspiracy here, but I doubt it.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 19, 2023 12:40 PM (j2Xg6)

It's cotton...Big Cotton.

Posted by: BignJames at April 19, 2023 12:44 PM (AwYPR)

202 170 Well at least we know who killed JFK
Posted by: artisanal ette

-------
Fauci was seen at the grassy knoll in Dallas? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 12:44 PM (t9aCs)

203 Loss of taste and smell actually can happen with the flu. I lost those senses after a bad flu about 10 years ago; they didn’t return until 5 years later.

Posted by: chris+opher at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (NZkbe)

204 @199

>>"Ground-glass opacities in the lungs" -- making lung tissue crystallize? Now *that* sounds like something out of a horror novel or SF thriller. . . .

Wasn't this side story in Prometheus?

** RUNS **

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (up/3i)

205 This busty brunette in a red dress is here to provide some cheer for ellipsis:
https://is.gd/8DQcLT

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (t0OGg)

206 Boobs!

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 19, 2023 12:38 PM (DRSnL)

You always know the right thing to say, you sweet talker you.

Posted by: ... at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (WVyb1)

207 The truth is they were doing what the fuck they wanted, it had fuck all to do with Trump other than the fact that he was a monkey in the wrench of their plans.

But that's more than sufficient. Trump was possibly interfering with their plans so he was color revolution'd. Ditto Jair Bolsonaro. And they've done it like 3 or 4 times to Bibi Netanyahu now, but it hasn't stuck.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (ZGrMX)

208 IIRC, that's what the virus in the Andromeda Strain did.

Welp, I'm going long on Sterno stocks.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (eOEVl)

209 We made a mint off of this COVID leak.
~ Big Directional Arrow Floor Applique

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (OgrpQ)

210 Francis Collins deserves to be shot just for singing that fucking song in public.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (u73oe)

211 Chinese agent McConnell is back, His first proclamation was to fund the DOJ fully with more of our money.

Balls in your court McCarthy.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (DMyTF)

212 149 "had the specific symptoms of "loss of smell" and "ground-glass opacities in the lungs." That's due to covid making lung tissue crystallize, ending that tissue's functioning. "

Y'know, what this tells me is that chest x-rays would have been more diagnostic of Coof cases than sinal excavation with a cotton covered stick.

Yet nobody was recommending that.

Funny, that.
Posted by: FeatherBlade

Yes. Early on the diagnosis could only be made on CT. Looking for the ground glass opacities. Which, by the way is named after the appearance of the lungs on imaging, not because the lungs turn into glass. This was a thing well before covid.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (hXpNS)

213 Hate him. or really Hate him, Josef Stalin knew how to take care of Russian Bureaucrats that got out of hand.

Just ask the Russian KGB/MGB/NKVD/KGB. It always involved the predecessor being shot in the back of the head by his replacement, and about half the previous members of the organization involuntarily joining him in Hell.

Posted by: rd at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (Z32m1)

214 >Tough titty. Lay down with the dogs and get up with the fleas.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 19, 2023 12:30 PM (pohLc)

But muh ham 'n' eggers

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at April 19, 2023 12:46 PM (TIcXN)

215 199 "Ground-glass opacities in the lungs" -- making lung tissue crystallize? Now *that* sounds like something out of a horror novel or SF thriller. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Read Crichton's book, the Andromeda Strain. The book is better than either movie but the Robert Wise version of the movie adaptation is better.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 12:46 PM (t9aCs)

216 198 If you want a real conspiracy, COVID was an international effort to develop a virus that would kill a bunch of old people.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken
_________

Unfortunately, it didn't work on Capitol Hill.

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at April 19, 2023 12:46 PM (gf7Ez)

217 Marc Elias, Democratic Campaign Arm Hit With FEC Complaint For Allegedly Misclassifying Legal Payments

Democratic lawyer Marc Elias and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) are the subjects of a complaint to the Federal Election Commission (FEC) alleging that they misclassified payments.

The Elias Law Group was paid nearly $5.2 million by the DCCC from Oct. 2021 to July 2022 for legal services classified as “RECOUNT LEGAL SVCS,” despite no federal recounts taking place in that time period, and months to go until the Nov. 2022 midterm elections, according to an FEC complaint brought on April 10 by the Committee to Defeat the President, an anti-Biden Super PAC.

Just last week:
The Democratic National Committee will no longer require the services of their controversial election lawyer Marc Elias, who has been described as one of the most consequential Democrats not holding office.

Posted by: SMOD at April 19, 2023 12:46 PM (RHGPo)

218 You are witnessing the destruction of the American Superpower as it happens.

Given how much shit we stir globally, and how eager many are to send American boys to every conflict around the world ? I'm all for it.

Posted by: Lupine of London at April 19, 2023 12:46 PM (gNBgg)

219 Logan's Run(ny Nose)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2023 12:46 PM (9UlRk)

220 On the upside I'm re-watching the Kraken/Avalanche game. Seattle still wins!
Posted by: Diogenes

*******

This year's Avs are but a pale shadow of last year's.
BTW- I saw that Seattle's XFL team is the SeaDragons. What's with the mythical aquatic monster fixation up there?

Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2023 12:46 PM (ykeLU)

221 XRay diagnostics are more expensive and cause some harm to the patient. There are likely not enough machines to test millions of people a day like they could do with an easy to execute and review cotton swab test. Maybe there is conspiracy here, but I doubt it.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 19, 2023 12:40 PM (j2Xg6)

Well, also, you can be asymptomatic, yet still carry the virus in your snot. In January 2020, I came down with a lung crut while here in AZ, went home to Alberta for previously scheduled doctor appointment, doc sent me a for a chest X-ray which showed no abnormalities at all. I think the "ground glass opacity" thing has been greatly overstated.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2023 12:46 PM (tkR6S)

222 Loss of taste and smell actually can happen with the flu. I lost those senses after a bad flu about 10 years ago; they didn’t return until 5 years later.
Posted by: chris+opher at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (NZkbe)

Holy hell. 5 years of no taste or smell? That sucks.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 19, 2023 12:46 PM (DRSnL)

223 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (t0OGg)

Heh. Thanks Joe.

Posted by: ... at April 19, 2023 12:46 PM (WVyb1)

224 Muldoon you were right about Damar Hamlin. You called commotio cordis from the start.

Posted by: JmT at April 19, 2023 12:46 PM (o3pN8)

225 Want to know what will end up killing a shitload of people more than the stupid China Kung flu? All the government recommended fake vaxes. And the dying will go on for years.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 19, 2023 12:46 PM (pohLc)

226
Our county Public Health Dept. has announced a new five-person team tasked with developing and maintaining hiking and biking trails (a function already covered by city and county Parks and Recreation departments. This five-person team brings "a collective 10 years of experience" in the public health arena. Ten years experience distributed among five people suggests that they were first hired within the last, oh 2-4 years. Makes me wonder.

Why does Public Health need to have anything to do with hiking and biking trails? Why do they need 5 people with a whopping "ten (collective!!!) years" of experience to do it, when park rangers, who go to college and get degress for this sort of thing, do it already? Someone upthread asked the best question: who are these five kids parents?

Posted by: Moki at April 19, 2023 12:47 PM (JrN/x)

227 Fauci was seen at the grassy knoll in Dallas? Asking for a friend.

The little gnome probably lived in a burrow there.

Posted by: t-bird at April 19, 2023 12:47 PM (CaJIi)

228 Balls in your court McCarthy.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (DMyTF)

You have no idea how right you are.

Posted by: McCarthy at April 19, 2023 12:47 PM (WVyb1)

229 "Conflicted" is a cute euphemism for "lying."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2023 12:47 PM (A3700)

230 224 Muldoon you were right about Damar Hamlin. You called commotio cordis from the start.
Posted by: JmT at April 19, 2023 12:46 PM (o3pN

Yes, but did he give us the diagnostic code for that as well? Hmm? Hmmm?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 19, 2023 12:48 PM (jX7Bl)

231 Unfortunately, it didn't work on Capitol Hill.
Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at April 19, 2023 12:46 PM (gf7Ez)
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Funny, isn't it? It was portrayed as the new Black Death to the public, especially among the elderly, so by all rights half of Congress should have died.

But did *any* Congresscrittur actually die FROM Covid-19?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 19, 2023 12:48 PM (YIVH2)

232 I took my neighbor to the doctor in November of 2019, and came down with what she had (no sneezing in the car). Felt like flu, but a bit different. She got over it in about three weeks, I in 2. Talking to folks over the years transpired, seems like a lot of that going on in the same time frame.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 19, 2023 12:48 PM (lz5hY)

233 Francis Collins deserves to be shot just for singing that fucking song in public.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (u73oe)
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But who did he open for?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at April 19, 2023 12:48 PM (2hlEI)

234 Aww, what's the sporting fun in quietly arresting Koresh with a half-dozen agents when he ventures out, when instead you can instead deploy all of your tacticool shit, shoot dogs, and murder a bunch of innocent women and children by fiery death? I mean, the media even portrays you as Big Damn Heroes!!
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen
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Roger Stone got off lucky. For certain values of 'lucky'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 19, 2023 12:48 PM (KtPtl)

235 You always know the right thing to say, you sweet talker you.
Posted by: ... at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (WVyb1)

I do what I can.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 19, 2023 12:48 PM (DRSnL)

236 Ratcliffe makes Fauci look small.

Posted by: Caliban at April 19, 2023 12:48 PM (iC8vi)

237 Holy hell. 5 years of no taste or smell? That sucks.

Depends. Perhaps he lives in a Brussels Sprouts-rich environment.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2023 12:49 PM (eOEVl)

238 Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2023 12:41 PM (ykeLU)

LOL I don't even know anymore

Posted by: ... at April 19, 2023 12:49 PM (WVyb1)

239 Which, by the way is named after the appearance of the lungs on imaging, not because the lungs turn into glass. This was a thing well before covid.

**********

Yep. For example, RSV bronchiolitis in infants is also associated with a "ground glass" appearance of the lungs on CXR.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2023 12:49 PM (ykeLU)

240 183 When is all is said and done, Dr. Mengele will be seen as an angel compared to Fauci. Mengele's death count will be an order of magnitude less than Fauci's.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable

More like 5 or 6 orders of magnitude.
(sorry for the maths)

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at April 19, 2023 12:49 PM (w9Wax)

241 Balls in your court McCarthy.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (DMyTF)

That's what Renee and MTG said!

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at April 19, 2023 12:49 PM (GKLAN)

242
This busty brunette in a red dress is here to provide some cheer for ellipsis:
https://is.gd/8DQcLT
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

After a night of hedonistic carnal bliss, you'll wake up in a hotel bathtub full of ice, with a fresh laceration in your side and a note in Cyrillic saying "Thanks for the kidney!".

But it'd be worth it.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 19, 2023 12:50 PM (n+4am)

243 Because we've been living under a well constructed facade of "freedom" and "choice" since the mid 70s or so, and things have reached the point that they people in charge are comfortable pulling the shroud away. They don't care what you think now because they don't have to.
Posted by: They're lying, the bulk of EVs aren't being sold to private individuals at April 19, 2023 12:35 PM (PW63N)

Or all the masterminds are dying and their henchmen are getting old and their entitled clueless kids have taken over, determined to make all those cool plans flesh so they can live their lives in whatever they think is good. Also, it is getting really hard to hide the inflation and the bribes

Posted by: Kindltot at April 19, 2023 12:50 PM (xhaym)

244 "IIRC, that's what the virus in the Andromeda Strain did."

Instantaneous coagulation of entire circulatory system.

I've read all the comments. Outstanding thread.

Posted by: gp's Faulty Terathrust at April 19, 2023 12:50 PM (MvF+J)

245 To have multiple people at the WIV infected at same time someone had to be sick before them.
China knew they had a problem in the Fall of '19 and stopped flights into and out of Wuhan, except for flights to Seattle.
China knew they were exporting a infectious pathogen and continued to export it.
Fauci funded and China caused the pandemic.

We, on this site, knew this at least by Jan of '20.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 19, 2023 12:51 PM (rTAb+)

246 Which, by the way is named after the appearance of the lungs on imaging, not because the lungs turn into glass. This was a thing well before covid.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (hXpNS)

Was that a symptom of the original SARS virus? I remember years ago an outbreak in Hong Kong that was devastating - virtually everyone who contracted it died.

Posted by: Moki at April 19, 2023 12:51 PM (JrN/x)

247 Let me see if I can tabulate all the mistakes made with covid:

Gain of function research.
Covid inflicted on the world.
Wrong treatment protocols.
Vaxx turns out to be the cure worse than the disease
Lockdowns
Masks

Everything on that list worked against the public but worked to promote the power of the state.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at April 19, 2023 12:51 PM (2YtOq)

248 Given how much shit we stir globally, and how eager many are to send American boys to every conflict around the world ? I'm all for it.
Posted by: Lupine of London at April 19, 2023 12:46 PM (gNBgg)

Remember that there were people in Spain that thought that losing the Spanish-American war was going ultimately be a boon to Spain

Posted by: Kindltot at April 19, 2023 12:51 PM (xhaym)

249 BTW- I saw that Seattle's XFL team is the SeaDragons. What's with the mythical aquatic monster fixation up there?
Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2023 12:46 PM (ykeLU)

I'm chalking it up to the salinity of the air due to Puget Sound. Changes the mushrooms and people here bring their own mushrooms to pizza places.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 19, 2023 12:52 PM (anj39)

250 I'll go out on limb here and get yelled at. let's assume fauci is not an evil man. But what he is, is a life long gov bureaucrat, which is EVIL by definition. We have reform our Gov, and not only the elected POSs, but the bureaucrats with TERM LIMITS. Power corrupts and Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2023 12:53 PM (Irn0L)

251 I saw Lung Opacity open for Instantaneous Coagulation at the Whiskey in ‘85.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 19, 2023 12:53 PM (u73oe)

252 Two teenagers have been arrested in connection to Saturday’s mass shooting at a Sweet 16 celebration in Dadeville, Alabama, that left four people dead and 32 injured.

That is all.

Posted by: SMOD at April 19, 2023 12:53 PM (RHGPo)

253 Muldoon you were right about Damar Hamlin. You called commotio cordis from the start.
Posted by: JmT at April 19, 2023 12:46 PM (o3pN

Funny, ain't it, how there is now a veritable epidemic of commotio cordis among elite athletes? I wonder if there is some common factor in it?

Like if there were an epidemic of "runoverbybus", and it turned out that victims had all been jaywalking.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2023 12:53 PM (tkR6S)

254 170 Well at least we know who killed JFK
Posted by: artisanal ette at April 19, 2023 12:38 PM

It was Lee Harvey Oswald. The Warren Commission did cover up a lot, mostly related to Lee Harvey's ties to Communist Cuba's Intelligence Agencies and Castro.

Why? Because if we thought back in 1963 or 1964 that Cuba had anything at all to do with JFK's Assassination? The American People would have DEMANDED WAR WITH CUBA! And Russia would have had to defend Cuba. Then General LeMay would have activated the US Integrated SIOP and dropped about 50,000 MEGATONS on Russia and the Warsaw Pact. And Russia would have replied. We would still be living with the radioactive contamination for another two centuries.

Posted by: rd at April 19, 2023 12:54 PM (Z32m1)

255 If we care to discuss coffee grounds in Emesis, I can contribute.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 19, 2023 12:54 PM (e8qft)

256 247 Let me see if I can tabulate all the mistakes made with covid:

Gain of function research.
Covid inflicted on the world.
Wrong treatment protocols.
Vaxx turns out to be the cure worse than the disease
Lockdowns
Masks

Everything on that list worked against the public but worked to promote the power of the state.
Posted by: Blake
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You can apply the same steps of dysfunction to energy policy, to financial policy, and to foreign/war policy. Every single one of those under the Biden junta is to promote the power of the state uber alles.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 12:54 PM (t9aCs)

257 I saw Lung Opacity open for Instantaneous Coagulation at the Whiskey in ‘85.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 19, 2023 12:53 PM (u73oe)
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I caught that show. Left me breathless.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at April 19, 2023 12:54 PM (2hlEI)

258 Two teenagers have been arrested in connection to Saturday’s mass shooting at a Sweet 16 celebration in Dadeville, Alabama, that left four people dead and 32 injured.

That is all.
Posted by: SMOD at April 19, 2023 12:53 PM (RHGPo)

Have they released the manifesto, or is that too soon?

Posted by: Kindltot at April 19, 2023 12:55 PM (xhaym)

259 I got your back

Posted by: Colossus at April 19, 2023 12:55 PM (us2H3)

260 Shooting in Dadeville, AL: Local story.

Shooting in KC: Get Biden on the horn!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 19, 2023 12:55 PM (u73oe)

261 Muldoon you were right about Damar Hamlin. You called commotio cordis from the start.
Posted by: JmT

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Commotio cordis PLUS the vax.

Posted by: Biden: MAGA surrendered America to China at April 19, 2023 12:55 PM (ulgTA)

262 255 If we care to discuss coffee grounds in Emesis, I can contribute.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 19, 2023 12:54 PM (e8qft)

Ants can't break down caffeine; it's lethal to them. Coffee grounds kill them.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 19, 2023 12:55 PM (ynpvh)

263 Why? Because if we thought back in 1963 or 1964 that Cuba had anything at all to do with JFK's Assassination? The American People would have DEMANDED WAR WITH CUBA! And Russia would have had to defend Cuba. Then General LeMay would have activated the US Integrated SIOP and dropped about 50,000 MEGATONS on Russia and the Warsaw Pact. And Russia would have replied. We would still be living with the radioactive contamination for another two centuries.
Posted by: rd
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Given the weirdness of the whole Oswald story, it is entirely possible that he was a CHS for our intel community and allowed to have a Russian handler wife because of it.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 12:55 PM (t9aCs)

264 I got Andromeda Strain as a birthday present when it came out. Read it all in one sitting. My mom said 'why didn't you make it last?' It's good. I didn't like the movie much at first, but on a recent reviewing I liked it better.

Posted by: gp's Faulty Terathrust at April 19, 2023 12:55 PM (MvF+J)

265 216 198 If you want a real conspiracy, COVID was an international effort to develop a virus that would kill a bunch of old people.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken

Exactly. China is soon to be upside-down regarding old people and younger population due to 1 child policy.

They needed to kill some old folks "naturally " instead of Logans Run scene.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at April 19, 2023 12:56 PM (NW9xb)

266 Two teenagers have been arrested in connection to Saturday’s mass shooting at a Sweet 16 celebration in Dadeville, Alabama, that left four people dead and 32 injured.

That is all.
Posted by: SMOD at April 19, 2023 12:53 PM (RHGPo)

2 misunderstood Yoots no doubt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2023 12:56 PM (Irn0L)

267 Nothing heart related can exist without also taking into account vax/booster status now. That's literally science.

Posted by: Biden: MAGA surrendered America to China at April 19, 2023 12:56 PM (ulgTA)

268 257 Ha!

Posted by: gp's Faulty Terathrust at April 19, 2023 12:57 PM (MvF+J)

269 The DiSantis litmus test.

West Coast Politics
@Coast_Politics
Ron DeSantis explains why Republicans step out of line:
“If you are a Republican who steps out of line you are the greatest thing since sliced bread.”
“I hope that Republicans realize that if the media likes you, you are doing something wrong” 🔥

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 19, 2023 12:57 PM (FVME7)

270 I saw Lung Opacity open for Instantaneous Coagulation at the Whiskey in ‘85.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 19, 2023 12:53 PM (u73oe)

A guy I knew in the Army was pretty naive. We set him up with a date but it ended early. He apparently suffered instantaneous coagulation.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 19, 2023 12:57 PM (anj39)

271 Can someone cheer me up?
Posted by: ... at April 19, 2023 12:36 PM (iCWt+)
********
Julie Kelly 🇺🇸
@julie_kelly2
Feelgood story of the day: “And that’s left many Democrats, who are facing dwindling numbers in state legislatures throughout the South and parts of the Midwest, feeling deflated and helpless.”

https://tinyurl.com/3ujhhbfk

Posted by: redridinghood at April 19, 2023 12:57 PM (NpAcC)

272 I got Andromeda Strain as a birthday present when it came out. Read it all in one sitting. My mom said 'why didn't you make it last?' It's good. I didn't like the movie much at first, but on a recent reviewing I liked it better.
Posted by: gp's Faulty Terathrust at April 19, 2023 12:55 PM

My college biochem prof recommended it. Said we couldn't be proper biochemists if we hadn't read it. It was a great read.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 19, 2023 12:57 PM (FAGAJ)

273 My brother and his wife got WuFlu some time between Dec.30, 2019 and Jan.6, 2020 while visiting our dad in hospital [ER and then the Heart Wing] although probably in Jan. when dad was recovering and rehabbing in the Heart Wing.

Their GP couldn't believe it was the flu because it came on so quickly and hit so hard -- in bed for two weeks, and one week recovering.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at April 19, 2023 12:58 PM (Vwz3I)

274 264 I got Andromeda Strain as a birthday present when it came out. Read it all in one sitting. My mom said 'why didn't you make it last?' It's good. I didn't like the movie much at first, but on a recent reviewing I liked it better.

Posted by: gp's Faulty Terathrust at April 19, 2023 12:55 PM (MvF+J)

I got COVID near my birthday. Does that count?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 19, 2023 12:58 PM (ynpvh)

275 2 misunderstood Yoots no doubt.

Turning their lives around ? Aspiring rappers ?

Posted by: Lupine of London at April 19, 2023 12:58 PM (gNBgg)

276 I had a dream * that Asian import nude model Francine Dee came over to my place to inspect my wallabies. Apparently she has retired from modeling and has become an animal inspector for the Australian government.

(* multiple dreams, actually)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2023 12:58 PM (J2vNu)

277 You can apply the same steps of dysfunction to energy policy, to financial policy, and to foreign/war policy. Every single one of those under the Biden junta is to promote the power of the state uber alles.
Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 12:54 PM (t9aCs)
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I see absolutely nothing being done, by any government, which is in the best interest of their population.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at April 19, 2023 12:58 PM (2YtOq)

278 So Fauci and Collins covered up the fact that they were involved in in of the biggest mass murders in history. Then they made a profit bout of it. Given that there still is an indictment of Fauci at the International Court of Justice for crimes against humanity for using African American twin children with AIDS in experiments why would anyone be surprised?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 19, 2023 12:58 PM (Uk8NJ)

279 2 misunderstood Yoots no doubt
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2023 12:56 PM (Irn0L)
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Turning lives around...aspiring rap dancers...yadda yadda.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at April 19, 2023 12:58 PM (2hlEI)

280 "Chris Smith death updates — Ex-NFL and Seattle Sea Dragons defensive end dies suddenly aged 31, cause of death unknown"

Age 31.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 19, 2023 12:59 PM (e8qft)

281 271 Can someone cheer me up?
Posted by: ... at April 19, 2023 12:36 PM (iCWt+)
********
Julie Kelly 🇺🇸
@julie_kelly2
Feelgood story of the day: “And that’s left many Democrats, who are facing dwindling numbers in state legislatures throughout the South and parts of the Midwest, feeling deflated and helpless.”

https://tinyurl.com/3ujhhbfk

Posted by: redridinghood at April 19, 2023 12:57 PM (NpAcC)

TBH, many Repubs are deflated and helpless too; happens when you have no spine.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 19, 2023 12:59 PM (ynpvh)

282 I still think the Wuhan flu was a purposeful act and not a "leak" or "lab error". And it was coordinated by the DC deep state, the MFM, and the CCP.

And the op was designed to destroy economies and electoral processes.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 19, 2023 12:59 PM (BdMk6)

283 Fauci needs to be prosecuted., convicted and EXECUTED.

Posted by: Constantine XI at April 19, 2023 12:59 PM (dg4p7)

284 Maybe Muldoon knows, but there was a nasty strain of flu in the late 50s that I had as a little kid. It must have hit the lungs pretty hard, because I remember Mom hitting me with the Vicks and keeping the vaporizer going. I remember Dad really looking after me after losing his parents, my grandparents, to the Spanish Flu after arriving here from the old country. I also remember the fever breaking and Dad walking down to the corner bar to get me a couple hamburgers because I was hungry and wanted a hamburger (with mustard).

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 19, 2023 12:59 PM (lz5hY)

285 2 misunderstood Yoots no doubt.

Turning their lives around ? Aspiring rappers ?
Posted by: Lupine of London at April 19, 2023 12:58 PM

Don't forget about to go to college and engaged to their baby momma.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 19, 2023 12:59 PM (FAGAJ)

286 274 LOL

Posted by: gp's Faulty Terathrust at April 19, 2023 12:59 PM (MvF+J)

287 Funny, ain't it, how there is now a veritable epidemic of commotio cordis among elite athletes? I wonder if there is some common factor in it?

Like if there were an epidemic of "runoverbybus", and it turned out that victims had all been jaywalking.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2023 12:53 PM (tkR6S)

I know sudden deaths and the vax. That's why I'd like to hear from Muldoon on Hamlin.

Posted by: JmT at April 19, 2023 12:59 PM (o3pN8)

288 Whatever Ratcliffe says. Regardless of being considered a Trump guy, given his position, it's in his favor to be on point when it comes to the most likely origin & release of C19.

NIH dot gov The NIH Director, December 19, 2017, NIH Lifts Funding Pause on Gain-of-Function Research
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CDC Pandemic Influenza Plan - Update IV (December 2017)
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(One of many such articles, and in part

Harvard University, Ban on deadly pathogen research lifts, but controversy remains

January 8, 2018 – Last month, the U.S. government lifted a three-year moratorium on funding risky research to genetically alter deadly viruses in ways that could make them even more lethal. Epidemiologist Marc Lipsitch of Harvard Chan School thinks the move could create an accidental pandemic.

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra and Jade, too. at April 19, 2023 01:00 PM (GshMh)

289 275 2 misunderstood Yoots no doubt.

Turning their lives around ? Aspiring rappers ?

Posted by: Lupine of London at April 19, 2023 12:58 PM (gNBgg)

Someone the other day said music is like a gift; you throw away the rappers.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 19, 2023 01:00 PM (ynpvh)

290 Which, by the way is named after the appearance of the lungs on imaging, not because the lungs turn into glass. This was a thing well before covid.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 19, 2023 12:45 PM (hXpNS)

Was that a symptom of the original SARS virus? I remember years ago an outbreak in Hong Kong that was devastating - virtually everyone who contracted it died.
Posted by: Moki at April 19, 2023 12:51 PM (JrN/x)

================

Same thing North of the Border in Canada. Lots of Deaths.

But down here in the USA? It was a really bad respiratory virus for almost everybody. For some reason the US medical system managed to save everyone from SARS-I. When SARS-2 / COVID came around, we listened to China, locked down, and looked at what happened?

Posted by: rd at April 19, 2023 01:00 PM (Z32m1)

291
This handsome smiling cowboy is here to provide cheer to....whomever, and no he's not shirtless. Of course, cowboys DO get shirtless. It's just that I figure many hunky male models on the internet are probably gay:

tinyurl.com/bddfbxyk

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 19, 2023 01:00 PM (Keyt1)

292 MTG, in committee, in response to a diatribe by Swalwell, "That was quite entertaining from someone that had a sexual relationship with a Chinese spy. And everyone knows it!"

Dems move to strike the statement from the record and grasp their pearls.

The Chair says they need to research the rules.

The Chair asks if MTG wants to retract. She says no.

The Chair decides they will NOT strike her comments from the record.

More pearl clutching ensues.

https://bit.ly/3LdkPpx

Posted by: bonhomme at April 19, 2023 01:00 PM (j2Xg6)

293 258 Two teenagers have been arrested in connection to Saturday’s mass shooting at a Sweet 16 celebration in Dadeville, Alabama, that left four people dead and 32 injured.

That is all.
Posted by: SMOD

Have they released the manifesto, or is that too soon?

Any word on their ethnicity, ori s that too soon?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 19, 2023 01:00 PM (Y+l9t)

294 I just remembered that there was an article a year or so ago by the pro-virus folks that was discussing a strain of COVID-19 that was different from all others and looked to be older.

I think I saw one article on it, but it was MSM. Maybe even the holy grail of PBS.

Posted by: Biden: MAGA surrendered America to China at April 19, 2023 01:00 PM (ulgTA)

295 I had a dream * that Asian import nude model Francine Dee came over to my place to inspect my wallabies. Apparently she has retired from modeling and has become an animal inspector for the Australian government.

(* multiple dreams, actually)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2023 12:58 PM (J2vNu)

She made a career out of inspecting trouser snakes?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2023 01:00 PM (tkR6S)

296 Good news on the tax front from the California Court of Appeal:
www.courts.ca.gov/opinions/documents/B323487.PDF

Posted by: SFGoth at April 19, 2023 01:00 PM (KAi1n)

297 On the upside I'm re-watching the Kraken/Avalanche game. Seattle still wins!
Posted by: Diogenes

Happy for you and other Krak fans -- but having "The Climate Pledge" on their helmets is gayer than Dylan Mulva singing show tunes with a Liberace impersonator.

Posted by: Doof at April 19, 2023 01:01 PM (iY8R7)

298 Any word on their ethnicity, ori s that too soon?

--

At Satin Mahogany Dance Studio for Performing Dance?

The world may never know.

Posted by: Biden: MAGA surrendered America to China at April 19, 2023 01:01 PM (ulgTA)

299 Posted by: redridinghood at April 19, 2023 12:57 PM (NpAcC)

Thanks red. I saw feeling deflated and thought for a second it said feeling decapitated.

But I'll take deflated. Metaphoric violence is never the answer.

Posted by: ... at April 19, 2023 01:01 PM (NDezl)

300 I got Andromeda Strain as a birthday present when it came out.
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But you didn't die because you'd been boozing on ValuRite vodka pretty heavily that week??

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at April 19, 2023 01:02 PM (Vwz3I)

301 I had a dream * that Asian import nude model Francine Dee came over to my place to inspect my wallabies. Apparently she has retired from modeling and has become an animal inspector for the Australian government.

(* multiple dreams, actually)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2023 12:58 PM

That's...oddly specific.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 19, 2023 01:02 PM (FAGAJ)

302 C'mon Fenelon,what's the fun in that?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 19, 2023 01:02 PM (Y+l9t)

303 I've said for 2 years or more now that not only did Fauci know about the lab leak, but he knew about it as soon as it happened, and helped the Chinese government with the coverup. I would not be at all surprised to learn that we have emails and voice communications documenting that...but certainly the CCP does.

Posted by: Dantes at April 19, 2023 01:02 PM (fVKtH)

304 "Chris Smith death updates — Ex-NFL and Seattle Sea Dragons defensive end dies suddenly aged 31, cause of death unknown"

Age 31.

--

Commia comitomosis from a glancing blow while riding an elevator.

Posted by: Biden: MAGA surrendered America to China at April 19, 2023 01:03 PM (ulgTA)

305 300 Ha! We didn't have Valu-Rite in the 1960s, but we did have Sterno, thank goodness.

Posted by: gp's Faulty Terathrust at April 19, 2023 01:03 PM (MvF+J)

306 Fauci was seen at the grassy knoll in Dallas? Asking for a friend.

The little gnome probably lived in a burrow there.
Posted by: t-bird at April 19, 2023

***
He was about 22 or 23 back then.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2023 01:03 PM (J2vNu)

307 291
This handsome smiling cowboy is here to provide cheer to....whomever, and no he's not shirtless. Of course, cowboys DO get shirtless. It's just that I figure many hunky male models on the internet are probably gay:

tinyurl.com/bddfbxyk

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 19, 2023 01:00 PM (Keyt1)

Many years ago, my sister was reading "Riders of the Purple Sage" and got the the part where the masked rider was shot and was being looked at.
She: "OMG, is the masked rider a girl?"
Me: "No, just a cowboy with tits"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 19, 2023 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

308 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 19, 2023 01:00 PM (Keyt1)

I'm guessing gay possibly shirtless cowboy isn't for me then.

Posted by: ... at April 19, 2023 01:04 PM (SFtYx)

309 I had a dream * that Asian import nude model Francine Dee came over to my place to inspect my wallabies. Apparently she has retired from modeling and has become an animal inspector for the Australian government.

(* multiple dreams, actually)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2023
*
She made a career out of inspecting trouser snakes?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2023

***
Uh . . .

[scribbles notes for new dream]

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2023 01:04 PM (J2vNu)

310 Ah, the old we can't handle the truth excuse for our intelligence agencies or betters in general gaslighting the American public. And I doubt seriously Russia would have gone nuclear over Cuba, we would have traded them something for it in any case.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at April 19, 2023 01:05 PM (oWBc3)

311 Davar Hamlin had a bad case of posse comitatus.

Posted by: ... at April 19, 2023 01:05 PM (q1fcv)

312 284 Maybe Muldoon knows, but there was a nasty strain of flu in the late 50s that I had as a little kid. It must have hit the lungs pretty hard, because I remember Mom hitting me with the Vicks and keeping the vaporizer going. I remember Dad really looking after me after losing his parents, my grandparents, to the Spanish Flu after arriving here from the old country. I also remember the fever breaking and Dad walking down to the corner bar to get me a couple hamburgers because I was hungry and wanted a hamburger (with mustard).
Posted by: bill in arkansas

Asian flu epidemic 1957-58.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 01:05 PM (t9aCs)

313 I will laugh hysterically, and with joy, the day Felchi is hung out to dry and or called to account for his crimes.

It could happen. But then, I'm an optimist.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at April 19, 2023 01:05 PM (xcxpd)

314 300 I have a folding stove and three cans of Sterno under the sink in case the juice goes out. Down the hatch.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 19, 2023 01:05 PM (lz5hY)

315 I had a dream * that Asian import nude model Francine Dee came over to my place to inspect my wallabies. Apparently she has retired from modeling and has become an animal inspector for the Australian government.

(* multiple dreams, actually)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2023
*
That's...oddly specific.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 19, 2023

***
Well, if you're gonna spin a story on the HQ, might as well go all the way!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 19, 2023 01:05 PM (J2vNu)

316 296 Good news on the tax front from the California Court of Appeal:
www.courts.ca.gov/opinions/documents/B323487.PDF

Posted by: SFGoth at April 19, 2023 01:00 PM (KAi1n)

Maybe the ruling can be used to prevent Kali from taxing people who leave...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 19, 2023 01:06 PM (ynpvh)

317 Ron DeSantis explains why Republicans step out of line:
“If you are a Republican who steps out of line you are the greatest thing since sliced bread.”
“I hope that Republicans realize that if the media likes you, you are doing something wrong”

This guy gets it.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2023 01:06 PM (eOEVl)

318 MTG is certifiably take no prisoners nuts.

She's awesome.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at April 19, 2023 01:06 PM (2YtOq)

319 An Experimental Model of Sudden Death Due to Low-Energy Chest-Wall Impact (Commotio Cordis)

METHODS
We developed a swine model of commotio cordis in which a low-energy impact to the chest wall was produced by a wooden object the size and weight of a regulation baseball. This projectile was thrust at a velocity of 30 miles (48 km) per hour and was timed to the cardiac cycle.
RESULTS
We first studied 18 young pigs, 6 subjected to multiple chest impacts and 12 to single impacts. Of the 10 impacts occurring within the window from 30 to 15 msec before the peak of the T wave on the electrocardiogram, 9 produced ventricular fibrillation. Ventricular fibrillation was not produced by impacts at any other time during the cardiac cycle. Of the 10 impacts sustained during the QRS complex, 4 resulted in transient complete heart block.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2023 01:06 PM (ykeLU)

320 "No, just a cowboy with tits"

Don't think that movie has been made yet, surprisingly! Write a treatment, shop it around Hollywood. It'll get bought.

Posted by: gp's Faulty Terathrust at April 19, 2023 01:06 PM (MvF+J)

321 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 19, 2023 01:00 PM (Keyt1)

Thanks Fen

Posted by: It's me donna at April 19, 2023 01:06 PM (bs+z0)

322 Makes you wonder what the hell we are cooking up in our 300 bioweapons labs worldwide, doesn't it?

America, we carry the flag for international morality. Our causes our just, our ways right, and the world should forever be grateful.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 19, 2023 01:06 PM (qOCqy)

323 300 I got Andromeda Strain as a birthday present when it came out.
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But you didn't die because you'd been boozing on ValuRite vodka pretty heavily that week??

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at April 19, 2023 01:02 PM (Vwz3I)

Sterno

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 19, 2023 01:06 PM (ynpvh)

324 He was about 22 or 23 back then.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Too bad Jim Garrison and Oliver Stone overlooked Fauci.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 01:06 PM (t9aCs)

325 On the upside I'm re-watching the Kraken/Avalanche game. Seattle still wins!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 19, 2023 12:43 PM (anj39)

The NY Rangers (My Team) destroyed the NJ Devils last night 5 - 1. I'm not planning the parade just yet, but it was a great start for me!

Posted by: Archer at April 19, 2023 01:07 PM (gmo/4)

326 313 He'll croak first, one way or another.

Posted by: gp's Faulty Terathrust at April 19, 2023 01:07 PM (MvF+J)

327 Trump had pusse cominatus

Posted by: ... at April 19, 2023 01:07 PM (q1fcv)

328 “I hope that Republicans realize that if the media likes you, you are doing something wrong” 🔥
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 19, 2023 12:57 PM (FVME7)

Wait, there are Republicans that the media likes?!

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 19, 2023 01:08 PM (DRSnL)

329 322 Makes you wonder what the hell we are cooking up in our 300 bioweapons labs worldwide, doesn't it?

America, we carry the flag for international morality. Our causes our just, our ways right, and the world should forever be grateful.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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You have to destroy the world's population to save the world.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 01:08 PM (t9aCs)

330 “If you are a Republican who steps out of line you are the greatest thing since sliced bread.”
“I hope that Republicans realize that if the media likes you, you are doing something wrong”

This guy gets it.

Posted by: Archimedes

---

Desantis 2024!
- Salem, Fox, etc. media

Posted by: Biden: MAGA surrendered America to China at April 19, 2023 01:08 PM (ulgTA)

331 Wait, there are Republicans that the media likes?!
Posted by: Jordan61
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Dead ones.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 01:08 PM (t9aCs)

332 Fauci needs to be prosecuted., convicted and EXECUTED.
Posted by: Constantine XI at April 19, 2023 12:59 PM (dg4p7)

So do thousands in the DC government bureaucracy complex. Not going to happen. They will continue to wield power. Get used to it.

Posted by: JmT at April 19, 2023 01:09 PM (o3pN8)

333 I knew someone would say this, but I'm not sure it's possible, and in any case, there are some good, innocent people at those agencies. Probably.
_____

Yeah. The same agencies that had a Whistleblower sign-up list during the Trump years now has gone radio silent.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 19, 2023 01:09 PM (lf83v)

334 Fauci's exactly like Biden.

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra and Jade, too. at April 19, 2023 01:09 PM (GshMh)

335 Biden will say (assuming he ever again answers a question about the source of the COVID-19 bug):

"I will not accept a conclusion about the source until all 17 of my Administration's intelligence agencies concur on a source, and 51 illustrious, hand-picked, former intelligence agency directors and high-ranking employees all come to the same conclusion!"

Biden has not given anyone or any of his pet intel agencies a publicly-announced hard end date for their COVID source investigations. I'm sure you have all noticed by now that the Biden Junta very rarely publicly-announces a hard schedule for anything. So they can almost never be accused of being behind schedule on implementing Joe's idiot policies! This is a terrific strategy if you can get away with it. And Joe always gets away with it with The Lapdog Media.

Posted by: Gref at April 19, 2023 01:09 PM (AMIL/)

336 313 I will laugh hysterically, and with joy, the day Felchi is hung out to dry and or called to account for his crimes.

It could happen. But then, I'm an optimist.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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He should be turned into dogmeat for the beagles that he tried to kill via his funded 'experiments'. Truly evil bastard.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 01:10 PM (t9aCs)

337 Commotio cordis PLUS the vax.
Posted by: Biden: MAGA surrendered

*********

There is plenty to be concerned about the COVID vaccine from a cardiac standpoint, but commotio cordis is not one of them.

Myocarditis? sure. Abnormal clotting? Possibly.

But commotio cordis? Nope

Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2023 01:10 PM (ykeLU)

338 RESULTS
We first studied 18 young pigs, 6 subjected to multiple chest impacts and 12 to single impacts. Of the 10 impacts occurring within the window from 30 to 15 msec before the peak of the T wave on the electrocardiogram, 9 produced ventricular fibrillation. Ventricular fibrillation was not produced by impacts at any other time during the cardiac cycle. Of the 10 impacts sustained during the QRS complex, 4 resulted in transient complete heart block.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2023 01:06 PM (ykeLU)

Now do the study again, with 3 cohorts of pigs: unvaccinated, 2 weeks after receiving Covid vaxx, and 2 months after.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2023 01:10 PM (tkR6S)

339 Wait, there are Republicans that the media likes?!
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 19, 2023 01:08 PM (DRSnL)
----

The media loved McCain right up until he ran for president.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at April 19, 2023 01:10 PM (2YtOq)

340 Like if there were an epidemic of "runoverbybus", and it turned out that victims had all been jaywalking.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2023 12:53 PM (tkR6S)

We shouldn't confuse correlation with causation. This after all is why the Oregon Medical Licencing board is censuring pediatricians who are not bullying their patients' parents into getting the full range of childhood vaccinations.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 19, 2023 01:10 PM (xhaym)

341 329 322 Makes you wonder what the hell we are cooking up in our 300 bioweapons labs worldwide, doesn't it?

America, we carry the flag for international morality. Our causes our just, our ways right, and the world should forever be grateful.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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You have to destroy the world's population to save the world.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 01:08 PM (t9aCs)

One surefire way to end world hunger.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 19, 2023 01:10 PM (ynpvh)

342 Will Fauci ever face trial for running his own private bioweapon program out of Wuhan, funded by the US taxpayer, and supervised by the Fauci handmaiden EcoHealth?

No.

But we know he did these things. Mengele would be proud.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 19, 2023 01:11 PM (zzQRm)

343 You know, I just finished a complete custom rifle for my Grandson based on a 123 year old Springfield manufactured Krag-Jorgenson rifle. Looks great. Haven't shot it yet. Thought about writing about it on the morongunthread. But hell, it took me 2 years to complete and it's a long story, and I think I might be too lazy to go through it.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 19, 2023 01:11 PM (pohLc)

344 >>>
Ace...That is incorrect. It just describes how it looks on the X-Ray. The tissue doesn't crystallize. And in most cases it heals.

thanks. I had a feeling that was totally wrong.

Posted by: ace at April 19, 2023 01:11 PM (iHBZj)

345 331 Wait, there are Republicans that the media likes?!
Posted by: Jordan61
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Dead ones.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 01:08 PM (t9aCs)

But only when advantageous do do so.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 19, 2023 01:11 PM (ynpvh)

346 Wait until it comes out that the Democrats were colluding with the Chinese to release the virus to get rid of Trump and end the Hong Kong rebellion...

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at April 19, 2023 01:12 PM (MFZ8i)

347 Two teenagers have been arrested in connection to Saturday’s mass shooting at a Sweet 16 celebration in Dadeville, Alabama, that left four people dead and 32 injured.
_____

Teenagers, huh?

So, were they Teenager Supremists? Teenager Militias? Teenager Nationalists?

I hope the FBI is all over this.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 19, 2023 01:12 PM (lf83v)

348 334 Fauci's exactly like Biden.

Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Alexandra and Jade, too. at April 19, 2023 01:09 PM (GshMh)

incoherent pants-shitter who sniffs little girls?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 19, 2023 01:12 PM (ynpvh)

349 One surefire way to end world hunger.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 19, 2023 01:10 PM (ynpvh)
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If the people growing the food are dead, well...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at April 19, 2023 01:12 PM (2hlEI)

350 Makes you wonder what the hell we are cooking up in our 300 bioweapons labs worldwide, doesn't it?

---------

Are you ready for the Ukranian Lab Leak of the Mutated Raccoon-Zelenskyy Dog-Hybrid Virus?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 19, 2023 01:12 PM (P/sKF)

351 346 Wait until it comes out that the Democrats were colluding with the Chinese to release the virus to get rid of Trump and end the Hong Kong rebellion...
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at April 19, 2023 01:12 PM (MFZ8i)

And decrease the surplus population

Posted by: It's me donna at April 19, 2023 01:12 PM (bs+z0)

352 He should be turned into dogmeat for the beagles that he tried to kill via his funded 'experiments'. Truly evil bastard.

As should everyone that participated. I'm done with "just doing as I was told". Didn't fly at Nuremburg. Doesn't fly with me now.

Posted by: Lupine of London at April 19, 2023 01:12 PM (gNBgg)

353 I don't believe there is much doubt it was leaked on purpose. Even the Chinese intelligence agencies employ enough scientists and PHD's to game out precisely what would happen when the virus hit. The only question is did they, or how much did they coordinate with other countries. One has to surmise that given the cover this administration and some in a Congress want to give them, the answer is- a lot. Democrats used this "crisis" to subvert the entire electoral process. Republicans were cowed into silence. They are still focusing on the virus itself and not the many subversions and constitutional abrogations.

In the end, this is about power, and Democrats have grabbed enough of it during COVID to probably ensure the status quo for 10 years.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 19, 2023 01:13 PM (8Voqu)

354 But hell, it took me 2 years to complete and it's a long story, and I think I might be too lazy to go through it.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 19, 2023 01:11 PM (pohLc)
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I'd like to read about this project.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at April 19, 2023 01:13 PM (2YtOq)

355 340 Like if there were an epidemic of "runoverbybus", and it turned out that victims had all been jaywalking.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2023 12:53 PM (tkR6S)

We shouldn't confuse correlation with causation. This after all is why the Oregon Medical Licencing board is censuring pediatricians who are not bullying their patients' parents into getting the full range of childhood vaccinations.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 19, 2023 01:10 PM (xhaym)

Jaywalking is legal in Kali.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 19, 2023 01:13 PM (ynpvh)

356 Wait, there are Republicans that the media likes?!
Posted by: Jordan61
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Dead ones.
_______

Too soon. During John McCain's funeral?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 19, 2023 01:13 PM (lf83v)

357 I'm less incensed about Fauci than I am about the many others who had to look the other way for him to get away with it. I expect bad actors, but I also used to expect the system to address bad actors. It doesn't.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 19, 2023 01:14 PM (ppBhU)

358 America, we carry the flag for international morality. Our causes our just, our ways right, and the world should forever be grateful.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 19, 2023 01:06 PM (qOCqy)

And apparently we cannot allow a mineshaft gap.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 19, 2023 01:14 PM (xhaym)

359 I'm less incensed about Fauci than I am about the many others who had to look the other way for him to get away with it.
__________

A lot of them were silenced by their employers and social media.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 19, 2023 01:15 PM (lf83v)

360 Teenagers, huh?

So, were they Teenager Supremists? Teenager Militias? Teenager Nationalists?

I hope the FBI is all over this.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 19, 2023 01:12 PM (lf83v)

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Trans-Teenagers defending themselves against genocide!

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 19, 2023 01:15 PM (P/sKF)

361 332 Fauci needs to be prosecuted., convicted and EXECUTED.
Posted by: Constantine XI at April 19, 2023 12:59 PM (dg4p7)

So do thousands in the DC government bureaucracy complex. Not going to happen. They will continue to wield power. Get used to it.
Posted by: JmT
------
To misquote Ben Stein's father (Nixon's Chief Economic Advisor)---trends continue until they don't. In a similar fashion, rulers and regimes retain power until they don't.

In both cases, never assume that tomorrow will be the same as today--it probably will but over a period of time, it won't.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 01:15 PM (t9aCs)

362 Thought about writing about it on the morongunthread. But hell, it took me 2 years to complete and it's a long story, and I think I might be too lazy to go through it.

If you don't want to write up the story, please at least send the pictures.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 19, 2023 01:15 PM (nfrXX)

363 Of the 10 impacts sustained during the QRS complex, 4 resulted in transient complete heart block.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2023 01:06 PM (ykeLU)

Wow. So there is a 15-millisecond time in each heart beat that is the danger zone.

Amazing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2023 01:16 PM (A3700)

364 Wait a minute, what are we, chopped liver?

Imperial Japanese Army Unit 731

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 19, 2023 01:16 PM (lz5hY)

365 John Ratcliffe did not commit suicide.

Posted by: Montec at April 19, 2023 01:16 PM (OalnH)

366 What difference at this point does it make?

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary at April 19, 2023 01:16 PM (lf83v)

367 And how is my fwiend in Wome, Commotio Cowdis?

Posted by: zombie pontius pilate at April 19, 2023 01:16 PM (Vwz3I)

368 Too soon. During John McCain's funeral?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot
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Damn, forgot to wear my mourning clothes today.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 01:16 PM (t9aCs)

369 351 346 Wait until it comes out that the Democrats were colluding with the Chinese to release the virus to get rid of Trump and end the Hong Kong rebellion...
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at April 19, 2023 01:12 PM (MFZ8i)

And decrease the surplus population
Posted by: It's me donna at April 19, 2023 01:12 PM
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That was what the vaccine was for. I expect infertility to skyrocket over the next decade. #BillGates #KlausSchwab

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at April 19, 2023 01:16 PM (MFZ8i)

370 Any word on their ethnicity, ori s that too soon?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

******

Ty Reik McCullough 17 and Travis McCullough 16, both of Tuskegee AL, 34 miles north of Dadeville.

DuckDuck Ty Reik McCullough images for pics.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2023 01:16 PM (ykeLU)

371
Fenelon has entered the "post provocative photos" sweepstakes?

* fans himself *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2023 01:16 PM (pNxlR)

372 Commotio cordis PLUS the vax.
Posted by: Biden: MAGA surrendered

*********

There is plenty to be concerned about the COVID vaccine from a cardiac standpoint, but commotio cordis is not one of them.

Myocarditis? sure. Abnormal clotting? Possibly.

But commotio cordis? Nope

Posted by: Muldoon

---

Which I why I didn't say the vaxxine CAUSED the commotio cordis, nor do I believe such a thing, and it's not something that I posted.

But the addition of the vaxxine to the strength of the heart has to play a role. Not that it will be researched since it happens so rarely, but it still adds a variable that wasn't in a person who didn't get injected or boosted.

Posted by: Biden: MAGA surrendered America to China at April 19, 2023 01:16 PM (ulgTA)

373 360 Teenagers, huh?

So, were they Teenager Supremists? Teenager Militias? Teenager Nationalists?

One is a 17 year old with the first name Ty Reik....The other is his brother

Posted by: It's me donna at April 19, 2023 01:17 PM (bs+z0)

374 But there was no cheating in the 2020 election. That's just a conspiracy theory.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2023 01:17 PM (ZLI7S)

375 365 John Ratcliffe did not commit suicide.
Posted by: Montec
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He jumped backwards and impaled himself on a bunch of forks at the Oneida stainless steel dinnerware factory. Tragic.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 01:17 PM (t9aCs)

376 Fauci is way smarter than Biden. His corruption is well hidden while Joe's is ham fisted and out in the open.

Posted by: JmT at April 19, 2023 01:18 PM (o3pN8)

377 I'd never heard of a "pangolin" before, so i've been educated. Tastes like chicken?

Posted by: pahound at April 19, 2023 01:18 PM (vh5b5)

378 Are you ready for the Ukranian Lab Leak of the Mutated Raccoon-Zelenskyy Dog-Hybrid Virus?
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 19, 2023 01:12 PM (P/sKF)

Traditionally the Ukrainian labs focused on hemorrhagic viruses like Marburg and Congo, as well as smallpox and anthrax under the Soviet Union.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 19, 2023 01:18 PM (xhaym)

379 375 365 John Ratcliffe did not commit suicide.
Posted by: Montec
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He jumped backwards and impaled himself on a bunch of forks at the Oneida stainless steel dinnerware factory. Tragic.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 01:17 PM (t9aCs)

Or maybe he can dye, hanging to a tree with a fatal shotgun blast the the chest with said shotgun in the nearby lake. Obvious suicide (Hillary-style)

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 19, 2023 01:18 PM (ynpvh)

380 Wait, there are Republicans that the media likes?!
Posted by: Jordan61

Lizard Cheney

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 19, 2023 01:19 PM (FVME7)

381 As should everyone that participated. I'm done with "just doing as I was told". Didn't fly at Nuremburg. Doesn't fly with me now.
Posted by: Lupine of London
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I agree. Loss of job should be the minimum punishment.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 01:19 PM (t9aCs)

382 Wow. So there is a 15-millisecond time in each heart beat that is the danger zone.

Amazing.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

********

Yep, vulnerable period known as R on T. This is why cardioversion shocks are applied in ssynchronization with the patient's own rhythm, to avoid inadvertent R on T.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2023 01:19 PM (ykeLU)

383 die, not dye.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 19, 2023 01:19 PM (ynpvh)

384 All of the participants in the sweet 16 party were black. The whole town is predominantly black, and all the shooters were black and gang affiliated.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 19, 2023 01:20 PM (pohLc)

385
Fauci is way smarter than Biden. His corruption is well hidden while Joe's is ham fisted and out in the open.
Posted by: JmT

Snap his face into a cage filled with biting sand fleas and that crap weasel will scream for mercy in a matter of mere seconds ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2023 01:20 PM (pNxlR)

386 342 Will Fauci ever face trial for running his own private bioweapon program out of Wuhan, funded by the US taxpayer, and supervised by the Fauci handmaiden EcoHealth?

No.

But we know he did these things. Mengele would be proud.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 19, 2023 01:11 PM (zzQRm)
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Don't forget the person in charge of ethics oversite was... his wife.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at April 19, 2023 01:20 PM (+M04z)

387 Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 19, 2023 01:11 PM (pohLc)

Unacceptable.

Write it up, or at least send photos to Weasel and the Gun Thread, or I will sic Bluebell on you.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2023 01:20 PM (A3700)

388 Tastes Like Chicken Aftershow | MythBusters #RIPGrant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYR4xsWSskU

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at April 19, 2023 01:20 PM (MFZ8i)

389 Do you think it's just a coincidence that Hunter Biden's investment company had a stake in a company that was hired to do virus tracking in foreign labs including both in Wuhan and Ukraine?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2023 01:20 PM (ZLI7S)

390 386 Don't forget the person in charge of ethics oversite was... his wife.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at April 19, 2023 01:20 PM (+M04z)

Uber-ethical.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 19, 2023 01:20 PM (ynpvh)

391 Fauci is just a weak, insipid, insidious bureaucrat. His only concern is his own reputation and ego. I dont think he's smart enough to deliberately assist the Chinese. He's more of a dupe they convinced into providing the basis for their scheme by playing to both his ego and liberal multiculturalism guilt.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 19, 2023 01:21 PM (8Voqu)

392 365 John Ratcliffe did not commit suicide.
Posted by: Montec at April 19, 2023 01:16 PM (OalnH)

He said Avada Kedavra, but accidentally into a mirror.

Posted by: Roy at April 19, 2023 01:21 PM (mj6Ru)

393 It was a mostly peaceful sweet 16 party.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2023 01:21 PM (atmen)

394 So what's the danger zone after two weeks in a person who got the clot shot? After a month? After three months? A year?

Any data?

Posted by: Biden: MAGA surrendered America to China at April 19, 2023 01:21 PM (ulgTA)

395 393 It was a mostly peaceful sweet 16 party.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2023 01:21 PM (atmen)

No stabbin? I thought them teens needed to be teens.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 19, 2023 01:22 PM (ynpvh)

396 393 It was a mostly peaceful sweet 16 party.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 19, 2023 01:21 PM (atmen)

I think there is more to this story

Posted by: It's me donna at April 19, 2023 01:22 PM (bs+z0)

397 Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 19, 2023 01:11 PM (pohLc)

Unacceptable.

Write it up, or at least send photos to Weasel and the Gun Thread, or I will sic Bluebell on you.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2023 01:20 PM (A3700)
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So. The Parole Board came thru then?

Posted by: Diogenes at April 19, 2023 01:22 PM (anj39)

398 Or maybe he can dye, hanging to a tree with a fatal shotgun blast the the chest with said shotgun in the nearby lake. Obvious suicide (Hillary-style)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Clinton world is at least creative with solutions for the troublesome--I mean the UN guy crushing his chest with weights is a bit more spectacular than your average IC op of running someone over with a car while crossing the street, induced heart attacks, or making the hit look like a mugging.

It would be an amusing serial for Jessica Fletcher (a stalwart Dem in real life) to chase the Hillarybot killer and her minions. Like Cabot Cove or Midsomer, being in Clinton World results in a high probability of death by misadventure.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 01:22 PM (t9aCs)

399 391 Fauci is just a weak, insipid, insidious bureaucrat. His only concern is his own reputation and ego. I dont think he's smart enough to deliberately assist the Chinese. He's more of a dupe they convinced into providing the basis for their scheme by playing to both his ego and liberal multiculturalism guilt.

agree fully and while I really hate the guy, I wish the threats would tone down. I kind of want the usa idiots to EVENTUALLY admit the shots have bad side effects.

there are people who need help. scaring that little weasel will just keep the Zone of Silence up. we need a way to build a bridge, somehow.

damage is still be done

Posted by: BlackCisOrchid at April 19, 2023 01:22 PM (w0NJk)

400 I've read all the comments. Outstanding thread.
Posted by: gp's Faulty Terathrust at April 19, 2023 12:50 PM (MvF+J)

I came in late and looked for the Mannix girl.

Posted by: spindrift at April 19, 2023 01:23 PM (ivvNA)

401 Akshually, it was a sweet M-16 party.

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary at April 19, 2023 01:23 PM (lf83v)

402 I dont think he's smart enough to deliberately assist the Chinese.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 19, 2023 01:21 PM (8Voqu)

My dad knew him a long time ago, and he said that Fauci was very intelligent and very, very political.

I think he did all this stuff because he could.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2023 01:23 PM (A3700)

403 Cancer in 10 years. The Government will "pay" for it.

Posted by: pahound at April 19, 2023 01:23 PM (vh5b5)

404 still BEING done ... see what the jabs did to my typing?!!?

Posted by: BlackCisOrchid at April 19, 2023 01:23 PM (w0NJk)

405 John Ratcliffe did not commit suicide.
Posted by: Montec

And doesn't have 10 trillion gigabytes of child pron on his phone/laptop

Posted by: Archer at April 19, 2023 01:24 PM (gmo/4)

406 NOOD: Wal-Mart Sucks

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 19, 2023 01:24 PM (ppBhU)

407 391 Fauci is just a weak, insipid, insidious bureaucrat. His only concern is his own reputation and ego. I dont think he's smart enough to deliberately assist the Chinese. He's more of a dupe they convinced into providing the basis for their scheme by playing to both his ego and liberal multiculturalism guilt.
Posted by: Marcus T

No, he isn't Marcus T. He played that game during the AIDS crisis. Look up how his personally approved actions resulted in the death of a lot of NY orphans by using them as guinea pigs for untested drugs. He is an evil bastard.

Posted by: whig at April 19, 2023 01:24 PM (t9aCs)

408 Cancer in 10 years. The Government will "pay" for it.
____

Like the Camp Lejeune Water?

Posted by: Hillary at April 19, 2023 01:24 PM (lf83v)

409 I think that the only regret Fauci has is that the US didn't go full Beijing and lock us down in our houses/apartments. They went as far as they could with a now tattered Constitution and if they could have gotten away with it, would have had no qualms with imprisoning Americans either in their homes or actual prison cells.

It wasn't that long ago that Fauci predicted another world-wide pandemic. It's coming, he said. I bet.

Posted by: Cheri at April 19, 2023 01:24 PM (oiNtH)

410
NOOD: WalMart is not your frenn

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2023 01:25 PM (pNxlR)

411 exactly

Posted by: pahound at April 19, 2023 01:25 PM (vh5b5)

412 I look at you all,
See the love there that's sleeping,
While my pangolin gently weeps.

Posted by: George Harrison at April 19, 2023 01:27 PM (qMWci)

413 And do you know Cowdis's wife's name, Muwdoon??

Tweponema Pawwidum.

Posted by: zombie pontius pilate at April 19, 2023 01:27 PM (Vwz3I)

414 All of the participants in the sweet 16 party were black. The whole town is predominantly black, and all the shooters were black and gang affiliated.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 19, 2023

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We sorta suspected that when we heard the birthday girl's brother was named "Philtavious."

Posted by: J. Mannix, F. Cannon, B. Jones at April 19, 2023 01:27 PM (J2vNu)

415 237 Holy hell. 5 years of no taste or smell? That sucks.

Depends. Perhaps he lives in a Brussels Sprouts-rich environment.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 19, 2023 12:49 PM (eOEVl)

My taste and smell are still not right and I had COVID Thanksgiving of 21

Posted by: A dude in MI at April 19, 2023 01:28 PM (/6GbT)

416 Traditionally the Ukrainian labs focused on hemorrhagic viruses like Marburg and Congo, as well as smallpox and anthrax under the Soviet Union.
Posted by: Kindltot

There is a small outbreak of Marburg in Equatorial Guinea Africa. Small for now.

Posted by: Cheri at April 19, 2023 01:32 PM (oiNtH)

417 DuckDuck Ty Reik McCullough images for pics.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 19, 2023 01:16 PM (ykeLU)

no pics

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 19, 2023 01:35 PM (tkR6S)

418 380 Wait, there are Republicans that the media likes?!
Posted by: Jordan61
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Hello!!

Posted by: Pierre Delecto at April 19, 2023 01:47 PM (OalnH)

419 "James O'Keefe tries to interview Anheuser-Bush Spokesmodel Dylan Mulva
Thanks to Archimedes"

I just saw this video that Ace put in the sidebar. O'Keefe clearly has not gotten the memo on modern pronoun usage.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 19, 2023 02:32 PM (/iWhV)

420 I completely forgot FascistPundit existed for months.

It was nice.

Then I read this post and remembered.

Thanks ace!

Posted by: Deepelemblues at April 19, 2023 02:38 PM (9mRsW)

421 "Ratcliffe stated that we could resolve this one way or another with a simple test to check the lab results from the sick Wuhan researchers."

Sequences resulting from patented Moderna content are in the SARS-COV-2 genome, and we already have the early grant pitches from the project detailing what was done here.

Those lab results are irrelevant. This guy is just muddying the waters. All that is left to figure out - if possible - is if it was an accident, an accident someone facilitated, or on purpose, and if intentional on some level, who did it.

Posted by: somedood at April 19, 2023 03:01 PM (+z+6a)

422 WUHAN LAB PLUS CHAPEL HILL LAB

CHINESE COMMUNISTS PLUS THE DEEP STATE

BEJING PLUS WASHINGTON DC

XI PLUS OBIDEN

THE CHINESE/AMERICAN UNI-GOVERNMENT MADE THE BIO-WEAPON VIRUS AND THE BIO_WEAPON VAXX TOGETHER. THEY OPPRESS BOTH PEOPLES TOGETHER.

Although there is some back-biting now that the Swamp is trying to blame it all on them. No Honor Among Genocidal Maniacs and all that.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 19, 2023 03:10 PM (Ndje9)

423 Chem-Trials what are they spraying on us?

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at April 19, 2023 05:09 PM (wGqjj)

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