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The Morning Rant: Misanthropic Style
I detest liars. And I'm sick and tired of being lied to about China. The list includes private sector types to those with government titles. Anyone with an ounce of common sense, an 8th grade education and who isn't being enriched by the Chinese knows that: China is not only an economic competitor of ours but is also an enemy of the American way of life.
STORY: Speaking to the Sydney Dialogue audience via video link, the chairman of the U.S. Special Competitive Studies Project said that China was unlike the Soviet Union at the height of the Cold War, because it was "an autocratic competitor that is run by technocrats that is very capable of inventing a new future." He also criticised the U.S. government for restricting Chinese researchers from moving to the United States to work on technologies like quantum computing, saying: "Why would you not want the smartest Indians and Russians and Chinese out of those countries and in your country?"Because the smartest Russians and Chinese are spies for those respective countries
There may be a small handful of Congress critters who truly care about the plight of this minority in China. The vast amount of them line their pockets with their Chinese connections. From the Bidens to the Salwells to the Feinsteins to the Pelosis to the McConnells, they care more about their wealth than the average American.
The following does not sound like competitiveness. We aren't talking who makes the best walking shoes. We are talking cold calculated espionage. This type of activity by an American in China would most likely end up with a death sentence.
U.S. intelligence agencies were aware of up to four additional Chinese spy balloons, and questions lingered about the true capabilities of the one that flew over the continental United States in January and February, according to previously unreported top-secret intelligence documents.
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The Chinese spy balloon that flew over the United States this year, called Killeen-23 by U.S. intelligence agencies, carried a raft of sensors and antennas the U.S. government still had not identified more than a week after shooting it down, according to a document allegedly leaked to a Discord chatroom by Jack Teixeira, a member of the Massachusetts Air National Guard. Another balloon flew over a U.S. carrier strike group in a previously unreported incident, and a third crashed in the South China Sea, a second top-secret document stated, though it did not provide specific information for launch dates.
A document produced by the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and dated Feb. 15 — 10 days after the Air Force shot down the balloon that flew over the United States — contains the most detailed government assessment to date of Killeen-23 and two balloons from previous years, labeled Bulger-21 and Accardo-21. It was not clear from the documents if Bulger-21 and Accardo-21 were the same balloons that flew over the carrier strike group and crashed.
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The Discord Leaks Dozens of highly classified documents have been leaked online, revealing sensitive information intended for senior military and intelligence leaders. In an exclusive investigation, The Post also reviewed scores of additional secret documents, most of which have not been made public. Who leaked the documents? Jack Teixeira, a young member of the Massachusetts Air National Guard, was arrested Thursday in the investigation into leaks of hundreds of pages of classified military intelligence. The Post reported that the individual who leaked the information shared documents with a small circle of online friends on the Discord chat platform. What do the leaked documents reveal about Ukraine? The documents reveal profound concerns about the war’s trajectory and Kyiv’s capacity to wage a successful offensive against Russian forces. According to a Defense Intelligence Agency assessment among the leaked documents, “Negotiations to end the conflict are unlikely during 2023.” What else do they show? The files include summaries of human intelligence on high-level conversations between world leaders, as well as information about advanced satellite technology the United States uses to spy. They also include intelligence on both allies and adversaries, including Iran and North Korea, as well as Britain, Canada, South Korea and Israel.
What happens now? The leak has far-reaching implications for the United States and its allies. In addition to the Justice Department investigation, officials in several countries said they were assessing the damage from the leaks. Bulger-21 carried sophisticated surveillance equipment and circumnavigated the globe from December 2021 until May 2022, the NGA document states. Accardo-21 carried similar equipment as well as a “foil-lined gimbaled” sensor, it says. A U.S. official speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence said the government naming convention for such balloons is alphabetical, from A to Z. It appears that the balloons are named after notorious criminals, including Tony Accardo, James “Whitey” Bulger, and Donald Killeen.
Annotating what appear to be detailed photos of the balloon that flew over the United States, presumably taken from a U-2 spy plane, intelligence analysts assessed that it could generate enough power to operate “any” surveillance and reconnaissance technology, including a type of radar that can see at night and through clouds and thin materials. The overflight of the carrier strike group will raise questions in Congress, where Republicans seized on the spy balloon issue to accuse President Biden of failing to deter Chinese espionage. The Pentagon and Office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment. The incursion of the spy balloon into U.S. airspace in late January probably caught elements of China’s government by surprise, according to a third document that relies on intercepted communications. Knowledge of the incursion was likely “heavily stovepiped” within the Chinese military, which lacks “strong senior” oversight of the surveillance balloon program, the document assessed, adding that some in the Chinese government viewed their Foreign Ministry’s response as poor for allowing the crisis to be “sensationalized.”
Another day, another story about the Chinese Communist state infiltrating American soil.
The FBI and federal prosecutors announced Monday the arrests of two New York residents who allegedly ran an undisclosed Chinese government police station in Manhattan's Chinatown neighborhood. Lu Jianwang and Chen Jinping have each been charged with conspiring to act as agents of China's government, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of New York. Breon Peace, the U.S. attorney for that office, said China's Ministry of Public Security (MPS) "has repeatedly and flagrantly violated our nation's sovereignty, including by opening and operating a police station in the middle of New York City."
China is out to destroy the US way of life. They are guilty of but not limited to: fluctuation of currency, poisonous pet food, unsafe drywall, commercial espionage. Russia is not a threat to the US contrary to what the Industrial War Complex believes. It's about time the US Government reign in the Chinese Communists and their sycophants.
And if they won't do it, perhaps our Woke Society will.................
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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 18, 2023 11:02 AM (Wnv9h)
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hiya
Posted by: JT at April 18, 2023 11:02 AM (T4tVD)
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Because the smartest Russians and Chinese are spies for those respective countries.
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Chinese, definitely. Russians, maybe.
There is no reason to transfer technology, knowledge and capability to your enemy on purpose.
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Chinese, definitely. Russians, maybe.
There is no reason to transfer technology, knowledge and capability to your enemy on purpose.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:02 AM (t0OGg)
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The Others have been summoned.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 18, 2023 11:03 AM (Wnv9h)
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China has already suborned the federal government. We're too late to prevent that. Now we face a choice between two ugly futures: one in which China completes its conquest of us through Washington; the other in which we take back our country by force of arms.
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at April 18, 2023 11:03 AM (Nmmyc)
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Nyah!
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:03 AM (gOewF)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 18, 2023 11:04 AM (MoZTd)
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ARGHHHHHH!
Posted by: John Fetterman at April 18, 2023 11:04 AM (ppBhU)
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We're already in a Cold Civil War with the Chi-Coms. We ignore this at our peril. Our weakness at home will only tempt the Chi-Coms.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 18, 2023 11:04 AM (RqMSv)
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Liars and connivers.
Posted by: BignJames at April 18, 2023 11:04 AM (AwYPR)
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China is Joe's friend/owner ... and America's greatest foreign threat. (Deep/State oligarch cartels are the greatest domestic threat).
Posted by: illiniwek at April 18, 2023 11:04 AM (Cus5s)
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The Chicoms, Russians, Iranians, Norks and others are enemies. We should not make nice to enemies but step on them and bury them.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2023 11:05 AM (pVWRI)
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... contains the most detailed government assessment to date of Killeen-23 and two balloons from previous years, labeled Bulger-21 and Accardo-21. It was not clear from the documents if Bulger-21 and Accardo-21 were the same balloons that flew over the carrier strike group and crashed.
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And why were those tolerated and not shot down? Was there a good reason for leaving them to survive - reasons like "we were jamming them and gather intelligence about Red China's capability" or "we were feeding them bad data on purpose to confound the enemy and wreck their assessments" - or were they merely ignored?
More importantly, perhaps, why should I believe them if they say there were strategically-valid reasons for letting them pass?
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And why were those tolerated and not shot down? Was there a good reason for leaving them to survive - reasons like "we were jamming them and gather intelligence about Red China's capability" or "we were feeding them bad data on purpose to confound the enemy and wreck their assessments" - or were they merely ignored?
More importantly, perhaps, why should I believe them if they say there were strategically-valid reasons for letting them pass?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:06 AM (t0OGg)
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China isn't the only liar, haven't believed anything from Russia or Ukraine since they have grabbed each other's throats
Posted by: Skip at April 18, 2023 11:07 AM (+7eID)
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Did they label it Bulger so that Mueller would protect it and assist it in its illegal activities?
Posted by: Wally at April 18, 2023 11:07 AM (FJYfm)
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And why were those tolerated and not shot down? Was there a good reason for leaving them to survive - reasons like "we were jamming them and gather intelligence about Red China's capability" or "we were feeding them bad data on purpose to confound the enemy and wreck their assessments" - or were they merely ignored?
More importantly, perhaps, why should I believe them if they say there were strategically-valid reasons for letting them pass?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:06 AM (t0OGg)
The answers to these questions can probably be found at the Biden Center on the campus of UPenn.
More importantly, perhaps, why should I believe them if they say there were strategically-valid reasons for letting them pass?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:06 AM (t0OGg)
The answers to these questions can probably be found at the Biden Center on the campus of UPenn.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 18, 2023 11:07 AM (KbCG3)
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12 The Chicoms, Russians, Iranians, Norks and others are enemies. We should not make nice to enemies but step on them and bury them.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2023 11:05 AM (pVWRI)
then we best be getting some help
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2023 11:05 AM (pVWRI)
then we best be getting some help
Posted by: REDACTED at April 18, 2023 11:07 AM (us2H3)
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Our domestic enemies are a far more urgent problem than the Chicoms.
I much prefer a dictator 10,000 miles away than 10,000 dictators 1 mile away.
I much prefer a dictator 10,000 miles away than 10,000 dictators 1 mile away.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 18, 2023 11:08 AM (pohLc)
Posted by: Gisele Fetterman at April 18, 2023 11:08 AM (ivvNA)
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Good to see you back here Mis Hum, been awhile it seems.
Posted by: Skip at April 18, 2023 11:08 AM (+7eID)
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Amazing that when Larry Fine or Curly were doing something stupid/dangerous in the '30s Moe would say-"Hey, Einstein!". We are still doing variations on this today. That's a long run. Well done, Albert!
Posted by: Relatively Speaking at April 18, 2023 11:08 AM (Nn3xT)
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China using fake influencers infiltrating social media to sway elections across the globe.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 18, 2023 11:08 AM (NpAcC)
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Russia is not a threat to the US contrary to what the Industrial War Complex believes. It's about time the US Government reign in the Chinese Communists and their sycophants.
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They will. They will do so the moment the checks stop clearing, or the moment that they judge that alignment with Red China is no longer the soundest bet. For many people in the government, I think the latter is underway. Not for all, of course, but for some of them. Our China policy has been pretty schizoid over the past several years. It has not been uniformly pro-China, which surprised me. My best guess is that some powerful people in the government have seen the conditions and status in China and are moving away from it.
That is not all good news. They still won't work for *this* country, just for whoever they think the better bet is.
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They will. They will do so the moment the checks stop clearing, or the moment that they judge that alignment with Red China is no longer the soundest bet. For many people in the government, I think the latter is underway. Not for all, of course, but for some of them. Our China policy has been pretty schizoid over the past several years. It has not been uniformly pro-China, which surprised me. My best guess is that some powerful people in the government have seen the conditions and status in China and are moving away from it.
That is not all good news. They still won't work for *this* country, just for whoever they think the better bet is.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:08 AM (t0OGg)
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>>>He also criticised the U.S. government for restricting Chinese researchers from moving to the United States to work on technologies like quantum computing, saying: "Why would you not want the smartest Indians and Russians and Chinese out of those countries and in your country?"
Ah - Operation Chinese finger trap!
Ah - Operation Chinese finger trap!
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 18, 2023 11:09 AM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Dillinger-13 at April 18, 2023 11:09 AM (63Dwl)
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Meanwhile the DoJ has arrested another person in relation to the leak of those classified documents.
Sarah Bils, former Navy electronics technician for EF-18Gs, who was separated from the service before completing 20 years has been charged.
https://tinyurl.com/USNISarahBils
The skinny seems to be she got busted down to E-5 and was allowed to separate with an Honorable after a high speed, 80mph, DUI crash.
Sarah Bils, former Navy electronics technician for EF-18Gs, who was separated from the service before completing 20 years has been charged.
https://tinyurl.com/USNISarahBils
The skinny seems to be she got busted down to E-5 and was allowed to separate with an Honorable after a high speed, 80mph, DUI crash.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:09 AM (gOewF)
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Run Logan, run!
Posted by: Dillinger-13 at April 18, 2023 11:09 AM (63Dwl)
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Heh. I'm glad I wasn't the only one.
Posted by: Dillinger-13 at April 18, 2023 11:09 AM (63Dwl)
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Heh. I'm glad I wasn't the only one.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:09 AM (t0OGg)
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Amazing that when Larry Fine or Curly were doing something stupid/dangerous in the '30s Moe would say-"Hey, Einstein!". We are still doing variations on this today. That's a long run. Well done, Albert!
Posted by: Relatively Speaking at April 18, 2023 11:08 AM (Nn3xT)
Somewhere, Neil Degrassi Junior High quietly weeps.
Posted by: Relatively Speaking at April 18, 2023 11:08 AM (Nn3xT)
Somewhere, Neil Degrassi Junior High quietly weeps.
Posted by: spindrift at April 18, 2023 11:10 AM (ivvNA)
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Good to see you back here Mis Hum, been awhile it seems.
Posted by: Skip at April 18, 2023 11:08 AM (+7eID)
Yeah - I haven't seen your gorilla in quite some time!
(that's what she said!)
Posted by: Skip at April 18, 2023 11:08 AM (+7eID)
Yeah - I haven't seen your gorilla in quite some time!
(that's what she said!)
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 18, 2023 11:10 AM (Mzdiz)
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Why are we the only country expected to import scientists and engineers from our enemies?
We have millions of 2nd and 3rd generation Chinese, Indian, and Russian Americans already living here and plenty of them love this country and majored in technical fields.
We have millions of 2nd and 3rd generation Chinese, Indian, and Russian Americans already living here and plenty of them love this country and majored in technical fields.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 18, 2023 11:11 AM (LbQci)
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Because the smartest Russians and Chinese are spies for those respective countries Einstein.
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I expect "Biden" to replace the "Einstein" reference in our glorious New Idiocracy future. #Soon.
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I expect "Biden" to replace the "Einstein" reference in our glorious New Idiocracy future. #Soon.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 18, 2023 11:11 AM (2oHWb)
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Amazing that when Larry Fine or Curly were doing something stupid/dangerous in the '30s Moe would say-"Hey, Einstein!". We are still doing variations on this today. That's a long run. Well done, Albert!
Posted by: Relatively Speaking at April 18, 2023 11:08 AM (Nn3xT)
Albert?!? I thought it was Norman.
Posted by: Relatively Speaking at April 18, 2023 11:08 AM (Nn3xT)
Albert?!? I thought it was Norman.
Posted by: Joe Theismann at April 18, 2023 11:11 AM (FJYfm)
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Amazing that when Larry Fine or Curly were doing something stupid/dangerous in the '30s Moe would say-"Hey, Einstein!". We are still doing variations on this today. That's a long run. Well done, Albert!
Posted by: Relatively Speaking at April 18, 2023
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"Quiet, you numbskulls, I'm broadcasting!"
Posted by: Relatively Speaking at April 18, 2023
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"Quiet, you numbskulls, I'm broadcasting!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 18, 2023 11:12 AM (J2vNu)
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>> Russia is not a threat to the US contrary to what the Industrial War Complex believes. It's about time the US Government reign in the Chinese Communists and their sycophants.
One of the least remarked upon reasons for the Deep State going balls to the wall against Trump was his intimation that he wanted to normalize relations with Russia because he saw there were numerous areas of mutual interest where we could cooperate and make a safer more prosperous world while simultaneously moving against China and reduce the probability of China overtaking the US and or forming the alliances The Junta's ruinous policies have made a reality.
One of the least remarked upon reasons for the Deep State going balls to the wall against Trump was his intimation that he wanted to normalize relations with Russia because he saw there were numerous areas of mutual interest where we could cooperate and make a safer more prosperous world while simultaneously moving against China and reduce the probability of China overtaking the US and or forming the alliances The Junta's ruinous policies have made a reality.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 18, 2023 11:12 AM (up/3i)
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Everything is rigged.
Everything is bullshit and lies.
Everything's a scam.
Everything's a rip-off.
Everything's an op.
Everything is fake and ghey.
Everything is bullshit and lies.
Everything's a scam.
Everything's a rip-off.
Everything's an op.
Everything is fake and ghey.
Posted by: Today's truth at April 18, 2023 11:13 AM (V6LRK)
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China has already suborned the federal government. We're too late to prevent that. Now we face a choice between two ugly futures: one in which China completes its conquest of us through Washington; the other in which we take back our country by force of arms.
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at April 18, 2023 11:03 AM (Nmmyc)
We will never do that as long as there are those who'll recoil at mere harsh words.
That's not who we are, as they say.
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at April 18, 2023 11:03 AM (Nmmyc)
We will never do that as long as there are those who'll recoil at mere harsh words.
That's not who we are, as they say.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 18, 2023 11:14 AM (FCbAQ)
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Sarah Bils, former Navy electronics technician for EF-18Gs, who was separated from the service before completing 20 years has been charged.
https://tinyurl.com/USNISarahBils
The skinny seems to be she got busted down to E-5 and was allowed to separate with an Honorable after a high speed, 80mph, DUI crash.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:09 AM (gOewF)
Not coincidentally, as the country has become less worthy of defending, the defenders of it have become less worthy. (See: "Admiral" Levine)
https://tinyurl.com/USNISarahBils
The skinny seems to be she got busted down to E-5 and was allowed to separate with an Honorable after a high speed, 80mph, DUI crash.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:09 AM (gOewF)
Not coincidentally, as the country has become less worthy of defending, the defenders of it have become less worthy. (See: "Admiral" Levine)
Posted by: Wally at April 18, 2023 11:14 AM (FJYfm)
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The only reason China is a threat is because China's leadership are several orders of magnitude smarter than the imbecilic shit stains running this clown show of a country.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 18, 2023 11:14 AM (pohLc)
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Sarah Bils, former Navy electronics technician for EF-18Gs, who was separated from the service before completing 20 years has been charged.
https://tinyurl.com/USNISarahBils
The skinny seems to be she got busted down to E-5 and was allowed to separate with an Honorable after a high speed, 80mph, DUI crash.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:09 AM (gOewF)
I never knew her, I know someone who surely did. Served with her I bet. Sigh
https://tinyurl.com/USNISarahBils
The skinny seems to be she got busted down to E-5 and was allowed to separate with an Honorable after a high speed, 80mph, DUI crash.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:09 AM (gOewF)
I never knew her, I know someone who surely did. Served with her I bet. Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2023 11:14 AM (pVWRI)
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China isn't the only liar, haven't believed anything from Russia or Ukraine since they have grabbed each other's throats
Posted by: Skip at April 18, 2023 11:07 AM (+7eID)
Having to monitor my own government as if it's a teenager (mouth moving=lying) is exhausting.
And it's not even deductible.
Posted by: Skip at April 18, 2023 11:07 AM (+7eID)
Having to monitor my own government as if it's a teenager (mouth moving=lying) is exhausting.
And it's not even deductible.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 18, 2023 11:14 AM (Mzdiz)
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One of the least remarked upon reasons for the Deep State going balls to the wall against Trump was his intimation that he wanted to normalize relations with Russia because he saw there were numerous areas of mutual interest where we could cooperate and make a safer more prosperous world while simultaneously moving against China and reduce the probability of China overtaking the US and or forming the alliances The Junta's ruinous policies have made a reality.
How exactly would that work? Russia has land and oil, and not much else. They are a technological backwater.
How exactly would that work? Russia has land and oil, and not much else. They are a technological backwater.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:15 AM (eOEVl)
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Chinese Embassy urges House Republican to stop 'targeting China,' focus on 'own failure' in COVID origins hunt
The Chinese Embassy's liaison to Congress said that intelligence community research on the COVID-19 origins aren't credible
https://tinyurl.com/msm29xuc
The Chinese Embassy's liaison to Congress said that intelligence community research on the COVID-19 origins aren't credible
https://tinyurl.com/msm29xuc
Posted by: redridinghood at April 18, 2023 11:15 AM (NpAcC)
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China, Russian and Iran are all dangerous. What's more dangerous are the traitors here that promote Chinese, Russian and Iranian interests as part of out national policy.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 18, 2023 11:15 AM (ynpvh)
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Consider the fact that china will be dead economically in the next 10 years caused by industrialization and the one-child totalitarianism.
And that the US faces a less severe but still significant population decline.
Conclude that the leaders of the US don't see the totalitarianism of China as the problem but that the US hasn't gone totalitarian fast enough.
I'm just amazed that anyone can honestly look to China and see anything of praise.
And that the US faces a less severe but still significant population decline.
Conclude that the leaders of the US don't see the totalitarianism of China as the problem but that the US hasn't gone totalitarian fast enough.
I'm just amazed that anyone can honestly look to China and see anything of praise.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 18, 2023 11:15 AM (CBXfs)
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The only reason China is a threat is because China's leadership are several orders of magnitude smarter than the imbecilic shit stains running this clown show of a country.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 18, 2023 11:14 AM (pohLc)
If "having leaders smarter than Joe and Kamala" makes a country a threat, then every other country on earth is a threat.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 18, 2023 11:14 AM (pohLc)
If "having leaders smarter than Joe and Kamala" makes a country a threat, then every other country on earth is a threat.
Posted by: Wally at April 18, 2023 11:16 AM (FJYfm)
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We will never do that as long as there are those who'll recoil at mere harsh words.
That's not who we are, as they say.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 18, 2023 11:14 AM (FCbAQ)
That's exactly who we are, duh.
That's not who we are, as they say.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 18, 2023 11:14 AM (FCbAQ)
That's exactly who we are, duh.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 18, 2023 11:16 AM (Mzdiz)
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Amazing that when Larry Fine or Curly were doing something stupid/dangerous in the '30s Moe would say-"Hey, Einstein!". We are still doing variations on this today.
I prefer the much more nuanced "poindexter".
I prefer the much more nuanced "poindexter".
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:16 AM (eOEVl)
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China, Russian and Iran are all dangerous. What's more dangerous are the traitors here that promote Chinese, Russian and Iranian interests as part of out national policy.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 18, 2023 11:15 AM (ynpvh)
I'm on Board with that! Amen
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 18, 2023 11:15 AM (ynpvh)
I'm on Board with that! Amen
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2023 11:16 AM (pVWRI)
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More importantly, perhaps, why should I believe them if they say there were strategically-valid reasons for letting them pass?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:06 AM (t0OGg)
Given their history, why would you believe anything the government says?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:06 AM (t0OGg)
Given their history, why would you believe anything the government says?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 18, 2023 11:16 AM (FCbAQ)
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Run Logan, run!
Posted by: Dillinger-13 at April 18, 2023 11:09 AM (63Dwl)
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Who cares about Logan? Those bastards are trying to kill Skip!
Run Skip, run!
Run Logan, run!
Posted by: Dillinger-13 at April 18, 2023 11:09 AM (63Dwl)
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Who cares about Logan? Those bastards are trying to kill Skip!
Run Skip, run!
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 18, 2023 11:17 AM (2oHWb)
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China is asshoe!
Posted by: Hong Kong at April 18, 2023 11:17 AM (jAUx7)
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How exactly would that work? Russia has land and oil, and not much else. They are a technological backwater.
Russia has many of the smartest coders on the planet. It's just right now they're mostly aimed at illegal things.
Russia has many of the smartest coders on the planet. It's just right now they're mostly aimed at illegal things.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 18, 2023 11:17 AM (ZGrMX)
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How in the world did we end up with such enemies??? Here we are , selling everything to China, moving every viable business to China to abuse their cheap labor market and make ourselves filthy rich, and look what they do! And Russia? Don't even get me started on Russia! Here we are minding our Business in Ukraine , and Georgia and Armenia and ...
Posted by: runner at April 18, 2023 11:17 AM (xNg0H)
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>>>Chinese Embassy urges House Republican to stop 'targeting China,' focus on 'own failure'
How much time you got?
How much time you got?
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 18, 2023 11:17 AM (Mzdiz)
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The FBI and federal prosecutors announced Monday the arrests of two New York residents who allegedly ran an undisclosed Chinese government police station in Manhattan's Chinatown neighborhood.
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Did they at least get a lotta beads from the Chinese?
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Did they at least get a lotta beads from the Chinese?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 18, 2023 11:17 AM (MBGMJ)
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Enemies! All of them! Bomb, bomb, bomb !
Posted by: runner at April 18, 2023 11:18 AM (xNg0H)
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I remember Mitt Romney being mocked by Obama for identifying Russia as the most potent NatSec threat. In some sense he was right, but he was too stupid and arrogant to know why.
Russia was / is like a wounded animal; it's declining and therefore dangerous - in the short term. In the long term, China is clearly the bigger threat. It has the industrial and technical base we used to dominate, but which we'd be hard pressed to spool up now for a major war.
Russia was / is like a wounded animal; it's declining and therefore dangerous - in the short term. In the long term, China is clearly the bigger threat. It has the industrial and technical base we used to dominate, but which we'd be hard pressed to spool up now for a major war.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:19 AM (eOEVl)
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And then we have the Chinese surrogate story about Chinese women using Americans to have their babies for them, then the babies immediately become citizens upon birth which allows the Chinese mom and dad to become citizens when the kid turns 21. Ain't that just friggin great?
Posted by: Jaimo at April 18, 2023 11:19 AM (DBrN4)
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Given their history, why would you believe anything the government says?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 18, 2023 11:16 AM (FCbAQ)
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That's what I was driving at.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 18, 2023 11:16 AM (FCbAQ)
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That's what I was driving at.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:20 AM (t0OGg)
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Sarah Bils, former Navy electronics technician for EF-18Gs, who was separated from the service before completing 20 years has been charged.
https://tinyurl.com/USNISarahBils
The skinny seems to be she got busted down to E-5 and was allowed to separate with an Honorable after a high speed, 80mph, DUI crash.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:09 AM (gOewF)
I really don't get what motivates these folks.
https://tinyurl.com/USNISarahBils
The skinny seems to be she got busted down to E-5 and was allowed to separate with an Honorable after a high speed, 80mph, DUI crash.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:09 AM (gOewF)
I really don't get what motivates these folks.
Posted by: BignJames at April 18, 2023 11:20 AM (AwYPR)
61
Come home, America
Posted by: DB - market-testing the slogan at April 18, 2023 11:20 AM (geLO8)
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@44 - there is nothing to see in China that's praiseworthy. Our totalitarians do what they do for their own sick reasons, without regard to China.
What they see in China is $$$. Mitch McConnell, et. al. sell you out to China for money. That's it. The rest of what they do is mostly unconnected to that particular racket their mafia is running.
What they see in China is $$$. Mitch McConnell, et. al. sell you out to China for money. That's it. The rest of what they do is mostly unconnected to that particular racket their mafia is running.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 18, 2023 11:20 AM (oINRc)
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BTW, for those who haven't seen yet, Trump put out a statement that Disney is awesome and everyone should watch Disney+ to show that mean poopiehead DeSantis. Between that and Don Jr. saying everyone must go trans I think he must've been shown his CIA file at the Bragg arraignment.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 18, 2023 11:20 AM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 18, 2023 11:21 AM (mZ3xv)
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Russia has many of the smartest coders on the planet. It's just right now they're mostly aimed at illegal things.
Sure, they have some good coders, out of a pop of 140M. The Chinese have 10x that pop, and also produce very good coders. Their educational system is built to identify and develop them early on.
Sure, they have some good coders, out of a pop of 140M. The Chinese have 10x that pop, and also produce very good coders. Their educational system is built to identify and develop them early on.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:21 AM (eOEVl)
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45 The only reason China is a threat is because China's leadership are several orders of magnitude smarter than the imbecilic shit stains running this clown show of a country.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 18, 2023 11:14 AM (pohLc)
My navel lint is several orders of magnitude smarter than the imbecilic shit stains running this clown show of a country.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 18, 2023 11:14 AM (pohLc)
My navel lint is several orders of magnitude smarter than the imbecilic shit stains running this clown show of a country.
Posted by: Very low bar indeed at April 18, 2023 11:22 AM (V6LRK)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:22 AM (gOewF)
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China's strategy is that of bamboo: Grow quietly, grow quickly, send out deep roots for other shoots to grow from, surround rival plants and strangle them.
Quietly.
Quietly.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 18, 2023 11:22 AM (lf83v)
69
A new monkey has appeared!
Posted by: NR Pax at April 18, 2023 11:22 AM (4olE8)
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Funny how there is always enough money and excuses to spend on stupid, useless , shortsighted shiit overseas, but never enough of it to cut taxes.
Posted by: runner at April 18, 2023 11:22 AM (xNg0H)
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Trump's main defects are not being able to tell who his friends are and knowing when to shut the fuck up.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 18, 2023 11:22 AM (pohLc)
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China, Russian and Iran are all dangerous. What's more dangerous are the traitors here that promote Chinese, Russian and Iranian interests as part of out national policy.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 18, 2023 11:15 AM (ynpvh)
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Amazing how the "America Last" movement now dominates our ruling caste on "both" sides of the aisle, the entire Deep State, the entire bureaucratic administrative fourth branch of government, academia, entertainment, and the MDM-MSM (BIRM seven times).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 18, 2023 11:15 AM (ynpvh)
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Amazing how the "America Last" movement now dominates our ruling caste on "both" sides of the aisle, the entire Deep State, the entire bureaucratic administrative fourth branch of government, academia, entertainment, and the MDM-MSM (BIRM seven times).
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 18, 2023 11:22 AM (2oHWb)
Posted by: m at April 18, 2023 11:22 AM (lfdZ0)
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58 And then we have the Chinese surrogate story about Chinese women using Americans to have their babies for them, then the babies immediately become citizens upon birth which allows the Chinese mom and dad to become citizens when the kid turns 21. Ain't that just friggin great?
Posted by: Jaimo at April 18, 2023 11:19 AM (DBrN4
Anchors away, my friend...anchors, away!
Posted by: Jaimo at April 18, 2023 11:19 AM (DBrN4
Anchors away, my friend...anchors, away!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 18, 2023 11:22 AM (mZ3xv)
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The biggest mistake G.W. Bush made was making Communist China a full member of the international economic order.
We never would have allowed ourselves to become dependent on the Soviet Union for key products, but for China it became somehow OK.
We did this in the belief that economic openness would make China more like America. Instead, we've made America more like China.
We never would have allowed ourselves to become dependent on the Soviet Union for key products, but for China it became somehow OK.
We did this in the belief that economic openness would make China more like America. Instead, we've made America more like China.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 18, 2023 11:22 AM (2tUFv)
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Surly monkey
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at April 18, 2023 11:23 AM (xcxpd)
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68 China's strategy is that of bamboo: Grow quietly, grow quickly, send out deep roots for other shoots to grow from, surround rival plants and strangle them.
Quietly.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 18, 2023 11:22 AM (lf83v
We've got a plan though! We're gonna need a lot of Panda Bears!!
Quietly.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 18, 2023 11:22 AM (lf83v
We've got a plan though! We're gonna need a lot of Panda Bears!!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 18, 2023 11:23 AM (mZ3xv)
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A new monkey has appeared!
Posted by: NR Pax at April 18, 2023 11:22 AM (4olE
******
And it's beautiful!
Posted by: NR Pax at April 18, 2023 11:22 AM (4olE
******
And it's beautiful!
Posted by: redridinghood at April 18, 2023 11:23 AM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:24 AM (gOewF)
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Posting in the serious monkey thread. Now to read the content
Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at April 18, 2023 11:24 AM (URIv5)
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What they see in China is $$$. Mitch McConnell, et. al. sell you out to China for money. That's it. The rest of what they do is mostly unconnected to that particular racket their mafia is running.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 18, 2023 11:20 AM (oINRc)
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They also see opportunities for their own totalitarian ambitions.
Red China is a major leader in recognition AIs. They use those systems *everywhere.* Facial recognition to track its subjects through the vast camera network and maintain logs of everyone's movement (or even automatically dispatch cops if it's someone they *really* want). Ditto for vehicles. Their AI-driven online censorship activities are extremely sophisticated.
We lead in industrial AI and stuff like OpenAI that generates products, but we are middling when it comes to recognition. They may well see an opportunity to give our panopticon a shot in the arm with some Red Chinese expertise.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 18, 2023 11:20 AM (oINRc)
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They also see opportunities for their own totalitarian ambitions.
Red China is a major leader in recognition AIs. They use those systems *everywhere.* Facial recognition to track its subjects through the vast camera network and maintain logs of everyone's movement (or even automatically dispatch cops if it's someone they *really* want). Ditto for vehicles. Their AI-driven online censorship activities are extremely sophisticated.
We lead in industrial AI and stuff like OpenAI that generates products, but we are middling when it comes to recognition. They may well see an opportunity to give our panopticon a shot in the arm with some Red Chinese expertise.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:24 AM (t0OGg)
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Also China is asshoe
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at April 18, 2023 11:24 AM (xcxpd)
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China is out to destroy the US way of life.
As is the US political class, as well as the vast majority of Ivy League grads.
As is the US political class, as well as the vast majority of Ivy League grads.
Posted by: Tailor at April 18, 2023 11:24 AM (zpt1t)
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Lu Jianwang and Chen Jinping have each been charged with conspiring to act as agents of China's government, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of New York.
Quick trial, quick execution, send the bill to China. Make public examples of these people until the message is received.
Quick trial, quick execution, send the bill to China. Make public examples of these people until the message is received.
Posted by: NR Pax at April 18, 2023 11:24 AM (4olE8)
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Bamboo?
Sounds more like kudzu
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:24 AM (gOewF)
Could be both...axe me how I know.
Sounds more like kudzu
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:24 AM (gOewF)
Could be both...axe me how I know.
Posted by: BignJames at April 18, 2023 11:25 AM (AwYPR)
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he biggest mistake G.W. Bush made was making Communist China a full member of the international economic order.
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Sad to say, Bush didn't do this himself. He did whatever he was told to do. All of these 'leaders' are slaves.
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Sad to say, Bush didn't do this himself. He did whatever he was told to do. All of these 'leaders' are slaves.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at April 18, 2023 11:25 AM (sI15f)
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"China is out to destroy the US way of life."
There are large swaths of the US way of life in need of destroying. They can start with the entitlement, welfare sector, the urban criminal sector, the smug, arrogant academic sector and most of all the woke social justice warrior sector.
There are large swaths of the US way of life in need of destroying. They can start with the entitlement, welfare sector, the urban criminal sector, the smug, arrogant academic sector and most of all the woke social justice warrior sector.
Posted by: Ripley at April 18, 2023 11:25 AM (cUYo/)
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@41
>>How exactly would that work? Russia has land and oil, and not much else. They are a technological backwater.
How many trillions of dollars has the US spent opposing Russia over say the last 75 years?
How much has "Russian Sanctions" cost the US in inflation and simultaneously creating the conditions where Russia unites with other assorted enemies in trying to take down the US dollar, which if happens, would have serious and wide ranging implications for not just The US but the world.
How much safer would the world have been if The United States and Russia had cooperated in say the last 25 years?
I mean, technological backwater? Sure.
>>How exactly would that work? Russia has land and oil, and not much else. They are a technological backwater.
How many trillions of dollars has the US spent opposing Russia over say the last 75 years?
How much has "Russian Sanctions" cost the US in inflation and simultaneously creating the conditions where Russia unites with other assorted enemies in trying to take down the US dollar, which if happens, would have serious and wide ranging implications for not just The US but the world.
How much safer would the world have been if The United States and Russia had cooperated in say the last 25 years?
I mean, technological backwater? Sure.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 18, 2023 11:25 AM (up/3i)
Posted by: NR Pax at April 18, 2023 11:25 AM (4olE8)
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Israel Commemorates Holocaust Remembrance Day – 147,999 Holocaust Survivors Live in Israel
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Holy shit! I had no idea there were still 150,000 Holocaust survivors alive!
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Holy shit! I had no idea there were still 150,000 Holocaust survivors alive!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:25 AM (FVME7)
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77 68 China's strategy is that of bamboo: Grow quietly, grow quickly, send out deep roots for other shoots to grow from, surround rival plants and strangle them.
Quietly.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 18, 2023 11:22 AM (lf83v
We've got a plan though! We're gonna need a lot of Panda Bears!!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 18, 2023 11:23 AM (mZ3xv)
I hear good things about napalm.
Quietly.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 18, 2023 11:22 AM (lf83v
We've got a plan though! We're gonna need a lot of Panda Bears!!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 18, 2023 11:23 AM (mZ3xv)
I hear good things about napalm.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at April 18, 2023 11:25 AM (xcxpd)
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A U.S. official speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence said the government naming convention for such balloons is alphabetical, from A to Z. It appears that the balloons are named after notorious criminals, including Tony Accardo, James “Whitey” Bulger, and Donald Killeen.
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Expect them to announce next year that they've shot down the Chinese balloon "Trump-24."
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Expect them to announce next year that they've shot down the Chinese balloon "Trump-24."
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 18, 2023 11:26 AM (2oHWb)
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89 82 Also China is asshoe
I admire that young man and hope he is safe.
Posted by: NR Pax at April 18, 2023 11:25 AM (4olE
Yes, I hope so
I admire that young man and hope he is safe.
Posted by: NR Pax at April 18, 2023 11:25 AM (4olE
Yes, I hope so
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at April 18, 2023 11:26 AM (xcxpd)
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Quick trial, quick execution, send the bill to China. Make public examples of these people until the message is received.
Posted by: NR Pax at April 18, 2023 11:24 AM (4olE
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That's how China would treat American spies. However, I doubt we have any human intelligence assets over there that are not also working for the Chinese government.
Posted by: NR Pax at April 18, 2023 11:24 AM (4olE
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That's how China would treat American spies. However, I doubt we have any human intelligence assets over there that are not also working for the Chinese government.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 18, 2023 11:26 AM (YIVH2)
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Sorry Mis Hum but I will never every give my private info to get through WaPo's firewall.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at April 18, 2023 11:27 AM (KiBMU)
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Who coulda seen this coming?
Guess which two Tennessee Dems led ANOTHER protest at the state capitol after being reinstated to the assembly?
https://bit.ly/41jmG1K
Guess which two Tennessee Dems led ANOTHER protest at the state capitol after being reinstated to the assembly?
https://bit.ly/41jmG1K
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:27 AM (FVME7)
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Harambe rejects your protestations that there is a gender spectrum....
look down if you have a penis you are male, a hoo hoo you are a female.
You're welcome America,
Harambe MD, PHD, Esq
look down if you have a penis you are male, a hoo hoo you are a female.
You're welcome America,
Harambe MD, PHD, Esq
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 11:27 AM (Lzpvj)
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3 China is out to destroy the US way of life.
As is the US political class, as well as the vast majority of Ivy League grads.
Posted by: Tailor at April 18, 2023 11:24 AM (zpt1t)
And China is paying those cocksuckers to do it.
As is the US political class, as well as the vast majority of Ivy League grads.
Posted by: Tailor at April 18, 2023 11:24 AM (zpt1t)
And China is paying those cocksuckers to do it.
Posted by: We gave Durbin twice his cut of our telecom business. Biden turned...for much less at April 18, 2023 11:27 AM (V6LRK)
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>>> The Chinese spy balloon that flew over the United States this year, called Killeen-23 by U.S. intelligence agencies...
I'd like to hear more about L
Killeen-01 through -02.
Or would that be A____-23 through J_____-23 ?
And before hitting 'post' I see the answer is - We never said anything about A thru J because we only keep secrets from Americans and until know nobody had a clue about the previous bogies.
I'd like to hear more about L
Killeen-01 through -02.
Or would that be A____-23 through J_____-23 ?
And before hitting 'post' I see the answer is - We never said anything about A thru J because we only keep secrets from Americans and until know nobody had a clue about the previous bogies.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 18, 2023 11:27 AM (jRLRf)
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Sure, they have some good coders, out of a pop of 140M. The Chinese have 10x that pop, and also produce very good coders. Their educational system is built to identify and develop them early on.
It's not the same. A lot of Russians grew up getting the most out of very limited hardware, like Gen X and older Europeans and Americans did. So they know how computers actually work and they're excellent reverse engineers.
China pretty much never had that problem, and they certainly haven't since Clinton handed them Most Favored Nation. They turn out millions of people who can semi-competently fiddle with your Node.js setup but making a microcontroller blink an LED would have them shouting "Norman, coordinate!" in Mandarin.
It's not the same. A lot of Russians grew up getting the most out of very limited hardware, like Gen X and older Europeans and Americans did. So they know how computers actually work and they're excellent reverse engineers.
China pretty much never had that problem, and they certainly haven't since Clinton handed them Most Favored Nation. They turn out millions of people who can semi-competently fiddle with your Node.js setup but making a microcontroller blink an LED would have them shouting "Norman, coordinate!" in Mandarin.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 18, 2023 11:27 AM (ZGrMX)
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Russia is a fantastic source for raw materials, which would benefit the US. China is simply a large sweatshop which uses other peoples' raw materials, employs slave labor, and undercuts the American middle class. Between the two, Russia is a far lower threat.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 18, 2023 11:28 AM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Fetterman's Lump at April 18, 2023 11:28 AM (Vu7A1)
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102 Posted by: Fetterman's Lump at April 18, 2023 11:28 AM (Vu7A1)
I had to tell Grok to put on a big bioy outfit, you should see us in the latrine.
//The Lump
I had to tell Grok to put on a big bioy outfit, you should see us in the latrine.
//The Lump
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 11:28 AM (Lzpvj)
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Russia was / is like a wounded animal; it's declining
China's declining too - its population is going to crash faster than Russia's.
Which leads to a temptation to roll the dice when it is at a point of maximum power.
China's declining too - its population is going to crash faster than Russia's.
Which leads to a temptation to roll the dice when it is at a point of maximum power.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 18, 2023 11:28 AM (2tUFv)
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US Iin its current state is in no position to lead. Not because there is not enough mineral, or weapons, but because the moral fiber needed to be such a global leader is lacking to put it mildly.
Posted by: runner at April 18, 2023 11:29 AM (xNg0H)
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How many trillions of dollars has the US spent opposing Russia over say the last 75 years?
The Russia of today is a shadow of what it was. I didn't say we shouldn't have spent the money then, but continuing to treat them like the big dog is a mistake. It's China.
How much has "Russian Sanctions" cost the US in inflation and simultaneously creating the conditions where Russia unites with other assorted enemies in trying to take down the US dollar, which if happens, would have serious and wide ranging implications for not just The US but the world.
Does anyone believe that BRICS absent China would have any power at all? It's a Chinese op.
How much safer would the world have been if The United States and Russia had cooperated in say the last 25 years?
In effect, that's what happened after the USSR collapsed. Remember the "peace dividend"?
I mean, technological backwater? Sure.
In what technologies do they lead?
The Russia of today is a shadow of what it was. I didn't say we shouldn't have spent the money then, but continuing to treat them like the big dog is a mistake. It's China.
How much has "Russian Sanctions" cost the US in inflation and simultaneously creating the conditions where Russia unites with other assorted enemies in trying to take down the US dollar, which if happens, would have serious and wide ranging implications for not just The US but the world.
Does anyone believe that BRICS absent China would have any power at all? It's a Chinese op.
How much safer would the world have been if The United States and Russia had cooperated in say the last 25 years?
In effect, that's what happened after the USSR collapsed. Remember the "peace dividend"?
I mean, technological backwater? Sure.
In what technologies do they lead?
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:29 AM (eOEVl)
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Seems like the TN Sgt-at-Arms should have a supply of duct tape and zip-ties handy. Along with pepper spray and a truncheon.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:29 AM (gOewF)
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104 Russia was / is like a wounded animal; it's declining
China's declining too - its population is going to crash faster than Russia's.
Which leads to a temptation to roll the dice when it is at a point of maximum power.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 18, 2023 11:28 AM (2tUFv)
It's worth pointing out that Russia and China have been around for a LONG time. They have survived worse than what we can do to them. We're the new kids on the block who don't understand just what a bitch History can be.
China's declining too - its population is going to crash faster than Russia's.
Which leads to a temptation to roll the dice when it is at a point of maximum power.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 18, 2023 11:28 AM (2tUFv)
It's worth pointing out that Russia and China have been around for a LONG time. They have survived worse than what we can do to them. We're the new kids on the block who don't understand just what a bitch History can be.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at April 18, 2023 11:29 AM (xcxpd)
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*not enough money or weapons
Posted by: runner at April 18, 2023 11:30 AM (xNg0H)
110
More importantly, perhaps, why should I believe them if they say there were strategically-valid reasons for letting them pass?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:06 AM (t0OGg)
If they had the sort of onboard power that the leaked intel suggests, it might have been from atomic batteries that would pose a radiation hazard if shot down over land?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:06 AM (t0OGg)
If they had the sort of onboard power that the leaked intel suggests, it might have been from atomic batteries that would pose a radiation hazard if shot down over land?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2023 11:30 AM (tkR6S)
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That's how China would treat American spies.
Which is what happened to all the American spies in China under John Brennan's leadership - they were all executed.
Poor communications security.
Which is what happened to all the American spies in China under John Brennan's leadership - they were all executed.
Poor communications security.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 18, 2023 11:30 AM (2tUFv)
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105 Posted by: runner at April 18, 2023 11:29 AM (xNg0H)
It is not a small lacking in moral power either, the United States at this point is exporting wastrel spending, gender confusion, and death cult nihilism.
We are not offering a better standard of living and security for the developing world and are unworthy of the power we have let alone increasing it.
It is not a small lacking in moral power either, the United States at this point is exporting wastrel spending, gender confusion, and death cult nihilism.
We are not offering a better standard of living and security for the developing world and are unworthy of the power we have let alone increasing it.
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 11:30 AM (Lzpvj)
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China is not only an economic competitor of ours but is also an enemy of the American way of life.
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China's not an enemy of my way of life.
I didn't hurt you, right?! I didn't hurt you, say it for the camera, say I didn't hurt you, say it!
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China's not an enemy of my way of life.
I didn't hurt you, right?! I didn't hurt you, say it for the camera, say I didn't hurt you, say it!
Posted by: Hunter Biden at April 18, 2023 11:30 AM (fs1hN)
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Sorry Mis Hum but I will never every give my private info to get through WaPo's firewall.
You will when I install a Washington Post app chip in your brain. I'm going to turn you into a wifi hotspot.
You will when I install a Washington Post app chip in your brain. I'm going to turn you into a wifi hotspot.
Posted by: Jeff Bezos at April 18, 2023 11:31 AM (ppBhU)
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China's declining too - its population is going to crash faster than Russia's.
Which leads to a temptation to roll the dice when it is at a point of maximum power.
True, but they've built up a lot of momentum. They won't collapse overnight.
Which leads to a temptation to roll the dice when it is at a point of maximum power.
True, but they've built up a lot of momentum. They won't collapse overnight.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:31 AM (eOEVl)
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I know. I know. You've been asking, what is Lia Thomas up to these days? (Now with pink hair!)
https://bit.ly/41jA71I
https://bit.ly/41jA71I
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:31 AM (FVME7)
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You will when I install a Washington Post app chip in your brain. I'm going to turn you into a wifi hotspot.
Finally Taylor Lorenz will be a useful member of society.
Finally Taylor Lorenz will be a useful member of society.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:32 AM (gOewF)
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117 You will when I install a Washington Post app chip in your brain. I'm going to turn you into a wifi hotspot.
Finally Taylor Lorenz will be a useful member of society.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:32 AM (gOewF)
She could always fill a trench
Finally Taylor Lorenz will be a useful member of society.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:32 AM (gOewF)
She could always fill a trench
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at April 18, 2023 11:33 AM (xcxpd)
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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:31 AM (FVME7)
That is one ugly "woman"
That is one ugly "woman"
Posted by: It's me donna at April 18, 2023 11:33 AM (bs+z0)
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It is not a small lacking in moral power either, the United States at this point is exporting wastrel spending, gender confusion, and death cult nihilism.
After all, our most important foreign policy issue with Saudi Arabia is LBGTQ2SIA+ rights.
After all, our most important foreign policy issue with Saudi Arabia is LBGTQ2SIA+ rights.
Posted by: Anthony Blinken, Idiot! at April 18, 2023 11:34 AM (2tUFv)
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You mean that communist totalitarian states don't have the best interest of those who believe in freedom at heart? Shocked , shocked I am
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 18, 2023 11:35 AM (Uk8NJ)
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The problems with China began post WW2 mainly because Chang and the nationalists were such a bunch of inept and corrupt imbeciles.
Posted by: Archer at April 18, 2023 11:35 AM (gmo/4)
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Since it is true that "early to bed, early to rise, makes one healthy, wealthy, and wise", Skip will soon rival Elon Musk in every way. I will say that I knew him when....
Posted by: Fanatic at April 18, 2023 11:35 AM (Nn3xT)
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... Does anyone believe that BRICS absent China would have any power at all? It's a Chinese op. ...
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:29 AM (eOEVl)
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:: raises hand ::
It depends on what you mean by power. The BRICS are big enough economically to shatter international dollar-based settlement. For Russia, it is a strategic imperative that this happen and for China it is a strategic preference, but they are not alone. Our treatment of Russia - namely cutting them off of dollars unilaterally and seizing their capital abroad and not even bothering to have a war first - has made a lot of countries very, very nervous.
China and Russia have finally hammered fissures into the international settlement system, and it's going to continue. It will not be Yuan, but will be non-Dollar (or at least, not exclusively Dollar). This is the real crisis that is waiting for us around the corner. It will probably involve lots of currencies and gold to settle international trade, and the ability for us to sequester inflation overseas vanishes. That inflation comes home. Fast.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:29 AM (eOEVl)
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:: raises hand ::
It depends on what you mean by power. The BRICS are big enough economically to shatter international dollar-based settlement. For Russia, it is a strategic imperative that this happen and for China it is a strategic preference, but they are not alone. Our treatment of Russia - namely cutting them off of dollars unilaterally and seizing their capital abroad and not even bothering to have a war first - has made a lot of countries very, very nervous.
China and Russia have finally hammered fissures into the international settlement system, and it's going to continue. It will not be Yuan, but will be non-Dollar (or at least, not exclusively Dollar). This is the real crisis that is waiting for us around the corner. It will probably involve lots of currencies and gold to settle international trade, and the ability for us to sequester inflation overseas vanishes. That inflation comes home. Fast.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:36 AM (t0OGg)
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The overflight of the carrier strike group will raise questions in Congress, where Republicans seized on the spy balloon issue to accuse President Biden of failing to deter Chinese espionage.
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Republicans seized! I'm disappointed that they didn't pounce ...
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Republicans seized! I'm disappointed that they didn't pounce ...
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 18, 2023 11:36 AM (2oHWb)
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Sorry Mis Hum but I will never every give my private info to get through WaPo's firewall.
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I have only two bank cards. Within the last week both have been victims of card fraud by some internet porn company. (I don't subscribe to any porn service because why rent a cow if the milk is free?)
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I have only two bank cards. Within the last week both have been victims of card fraud by some internet porn company. (I don't subscribe to any porn service because why rent a cow if the milk is free?)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:36 AM (FVME7)
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120 Posted by: Anthony Blinken, Idiot! at April 18, 2023 11:34 AM (2tUFv)
Quite, I mean it literally I hate these people.
When we were trying to export gradual liberalization of the worst excesses of allied powers we were "imperialistic cockholsters and how dare you pretend we are their equal let alone superiorz!?!" spouted from Foggy Bottom....
Now they are the most stone cold, tone deaf cultural imperialists in the valley.
Quite, I mean it literally I hate these people.
When we were trying to export gradual liberalization of the worst excesses of allied powers we were "imperialistic cockholsters and how dare you pretend we are their equal let alone superiorz!?!" spouted from Foggy Bottom....
Now they are the most stone cold, tone deaf cultural imperialists in the valley.
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 11:36 AM (Lzpvj)
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After all, our most important foreign policy issue with Saudi Arabia is LBGTQ2SIA+ rights.
And our second is apparenty Kashoggi, for whom The Turnip publicly vowed retribution. I can't imagine why the Saudis have been so unhelpful.
And our second is apparenty Kashoggi, for whom The Turnip publicly vowed retribution. I can't imagine why the Saudis have been so unhelpful.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 18, 2023 11:37 AM (ppBhU)
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Ivanka Trump had all her clothes Made in Chinai I was a bit surprised when she didn't opt for the lower labor costs of North Korea
Posted by: Paul at April 18, 2023 11:37 AM (3iPt7)
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124 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:36 AM (t0OGg)
The BRICS economies recognize the actual way economic wealth and growth occur which the insane asylum in charge of US Inc do not.
You have to have a national goal, pride, and robust industry and resource exploitation to be a healthy economy.
We have none of that these days.
The BRICS economies recognize the actual way economic wealth and growth occur which the insane asylum in charge of US Inc do not.
You have to have a national goal, pride, and robust industry and resource exploitation to be a healthy economy.
We have none of that these days.
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 11:37 AM (Lzpvj)
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China is out to destroy the US way of life. They are guilty of but not limited to: fluctuation of currency, poisonous pet food, unsafe drywall, commercial espionage.
China may indeed be a threat, but only insomuch as the American economic, academic and governmental forces enable them.
They didn't not forcibly remove our industry. They did not overspend our tax dollars by tens of trillions of dollars. They did not involve us in pointless wars.
We did these things, willingly. Now we are suffering for it.
China may indeed be a threat, but only insomuch as the American economic, academic and governmental forces enable them.
They didn't not forcibly remove our industry. They did not overspend our tax dollars by tens of trillions of dollars. They did not involve us in pointless wars.
We did these things, willingly. Now we are suffering for it.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 18, 2023 11:37 AM (9hVFa)
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Now they are the most stone cold, tone deaf cultural imperialists in the valley.
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 11:36 AM (Lzpvj)
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Notice how those who always cry and scream about "the legacy of colonialism" and the sins of empire were mum - utterly mum - about out woke colonization effort we executed in Afghanistan for at least a decade.
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 11:36 AM (Lzpvj)
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Notice how those who always cry and scream about "the legacy of colonialism" and the sins of empire were mum - utterly mum - about out woke colonization effort we executed in Afghanistan for at least a decade.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:38 AM (t0OGg)
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China and Russia have finally hammered fissures into the international settlement system, and it's going to continue. It will not be Yuan, but will be non-Dollar (or at least, not exclusively Dollar). This is the real crisis that is waiting for us around the corner. It will probably involve lots of currencies and gold to settle international trade, and the ability for us to sequester inflation overseas vanishes. That inflation comes home. Fast.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:36 AM (t0OGg)
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China is busy untangling itself internationally from the dollar so that it can't be used as a weapon against them -- like it has been with others, most recently Russia -- when they finally take Taiwan ... which tells me they're definitely planning on taking Taiwan.
And who's gonna stop them?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:36 AM (t0OGg)
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China is busy untangling itself internationally from the dollar so that it can't be used as a weapon against them -- like it has been with others, most recently Russia -- when they finally take Taiwan ... which tells me they're definitely planning on taking Taiwan.
And who's gonna stop them?
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 18, 2023 11:38 AM (2oHWb)
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I know Russia is an asshoe country too. but is everything we buy--including pharmaceuticals--MADE in Russia?
Russia is clearly the lesser of two evils because of that fact. The only way they can hurt us is through direct military or technological attack, which they won't do because that would invite a military response.
China can hurt us in so many ways and they already ARE.
We're in a low-grade isometric war with China and if it ever got hot, Russia would make a convenient ally
Russia is clearly the lesser of two evils because of that fact. The only way they can hurt us is through direct military or technological attack, which they won't do because that would invite a military response.
China can hurt us in so many ways and they already ARE.
We're in a low-grade isometric war with China and if it ever got hot, Russia would make a convenient ally
Posted by: JoeF. at April 18, 2023 11:39 AM (mR6Gs)
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@106
>>In what technologies do they lead?
None that I am aware of, but that's not the point, your intimation of them being a technological backwater is short sighted, they are largely a self-sufficient society, that manages to live within their means and exercises an outsized influence over other state actors, which if they were aligned with the West would have served numerous and sundry purposes for doing good.
Which is demonstrated by the many trillions of dollars expended to contain and oppose this, supposed "backwater country."
Once the Berlin Wall fell, the reasons for opposing Russia evaporated, unfortunately the WEF/PARTY OF DAVOA/MIC/Uniparty/NEOCON/NEOLIBERAL cabal that truly runs the world had other ideas.
And here we are with The Junta and Globalists, YOLOING, Thermo Nuclear War.
But we're going to show those Russkies, The US means business.
It is to laugh.
>>In what technologies do they lead?
None that I am aware of, but that's not the point, your intimation of them being a technological backwater is short sighted, they are largely a self-sufficient society, that manages to live within their means and exercises an outsized influence over other state actors, which if they were aligned with the West would have served numerous and sundry purposes for doing good.
Which is demonstrated by the many trillions of dollars expended to contain and oppose this, supposed "backwater country."
Once the Berlin Wall fell, the reasons for opposing Russia evaporated, unfortunately the WEF/PARTY OF DAVOA/MIC/Uniparty/NEOCON/NEOLIBERAL cabal that truly runs the world had other ideas.
And here we are with The Junta and Globalists, YOLOING, Thermo Nuclear War.
But we're going to show those Russkies, The US means business.
It is to laugh.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 18, 2023 11:39 AM (up/3i)
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That Paul...he funny!....not ha ha!
Posted by: BignJames at April 18, 2023 11:39 AM (AwYPR)
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They are tone deaf assholes because all they have learned is from DC. Unlike Trump who has learned life lessons like other people have other objectives, they can't ever imagine someone thinking differently than them without that person being all kinds of Bad Life.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:40 AM (gOewF)
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China is busy untangling itself internationally from the dollar so that it can't be used as a weapon against them -- like it has been with others, most recently Russia -- when they finally take Taiwan ... which tells me they're definitely planning on taking Taiwan.
And who's gonna stop them?
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 18, 2023 11:38 AM (2oHWb)
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They might try against Taiwan. I think they probably will, but it is not a guarantee.
If they do, as to "who will stop them," various parties will try, and may well succeed. The US will almost certainly engage. Japan definitely will. Korea might. India is less likely but possible. Australia probably will.
Invading Taiwan is not a low-risk exercise for Red China, even now, even without the Dollar cudgel.
And who's gonna stop them?
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 18, 2023 11:38 AM (2oHWb)
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They might try against Taiwan. I think they probably will, but it is not a guarantee.
If they do, as to "who will stop them," various parties will try, and may well succeed. The US will almost certainly engage. Japan definitely will. Korea might. India is less likely but possible. Australia probably will.
Invading Taiwan is not a low-risk exercise for Red China, even now, even without the Dollar cudgel.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:40 AM (t0OGg)
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China is out to destroy the US way of life. They are guilty of but not limited to: fluctuation of currency, poisonous pet food, unsafe drywall, commercial espionage.
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Not to mention virus bioweapons.
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Not to mention virus bioweapons.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 18, 2023 11:41 AM (2oHWb)
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Pauli boi is about as funny as a canker on ...
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:41 AM (gOewF)
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It depends on what you mean by power. The BRICS are big enough economically to shatter international dollar-based settlement. For Russia, it is a strategic imperative that this happen and for China it is a strategic preference, but they are not alone. Our treatment of Russia - namely cutting them off of dollars unilaterally and seizing their capital abroad and not even bothering to have a war first - has made a lot of countries very, very nervous.
The only sizeable economic powers in that grouping are China and India. India is not going to make their economy dependent on their mortal enemy - China.
The only sizeable economic powers in that grouping are China and India. India is not going to make their economy dependent on their mortal enemy - China.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:41 AM (eOEVl)
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Red China is not to blame. They are savage commies who have no respect for human life or dignity. The Chinese people should have thrown off the commie yoke years ago but that has proven to be difficult.
Our problem is our "leaders" and those they employ in the imperial federal government who only care about lining their own pockets.
Abolish the federal government and all they employee and Red China becomes a pimp without a whore.
Our problem is our "leaders" and those they employ in the imperial federal government who only care about lining their own pockets.
Abolish the federal government and all they employee and Red China becomes a pimp without a whore.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 18, 2023 11:42 AM (rUKH1)
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This blonde by the sea knows that most of the world will rue the fall of the Pax Americana:
https://is.gd/1llUau
https://is.gd/1llUau
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:42 AM (t0OGg)
Posted by: John Fetterman at April 18, 2023 11:42 AM (vwCZJ)
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We were allies with Russia when it was The Soviet Union and led by one of the meanest scumbags to ever walk the earth. I see no reason why we can't be "friends' when they are a corrupt and backward nominally Christian country with abundant natural resources--including brain power
Posted by: JoeF. at April 18, 2023 11:43 AM (mR6Gs)
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143 This blonde by the sea knows that most of the world will rue the fall of the Pax Americana:
https://is.gd/1llUau
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:42 AM (t0OGg)
Tiny panties
https://is.gd/1llUau
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:42 AM (t0OGg)
Tiny panties
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at April 18, 2023 11:43 AM (xcxpd)
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I was a bit surprised when she didn't opt for the lower labor costs of North Korea
Posted by: Paul at April 18, 2023 11:37 AM (3iPt7)
frankly, I am more concerned about China's stranglehold on the firecracker supply than I am about high-fashion dresses for vain wimmenz.
Posted by: Paul at April 18, 2023 11:37 AM (3iPt7)
frankly, I am more concerned about China's stranglehold on the firecracker supply than I am about high-fashion dresses for vain wimmenz.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2023 11:43 AM (tkR6S)
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Here is the coming international reality:
Nobody wants your shitty country, America.
You literally have your highest educated chopping off childrens' genitals, a third of your population doesn't even speak your native language and you have people literally dry-humping ambulances in the streets while cities burn.
We don't want your shitty country. In fact we are doing our best to wall you off from the rest of us. If you get things sorted out, we might allow you to make tennis shoes for us.
Nobody wants your shitty country, America.
You literally have your highest educated chopping off childrens' genitals, a third of your population doesn't even speak your native language and you have people literally dry-humping ambulances in the streets while cities burn.
We don't want your shitty country. In fact we are doing our best to wall you off from the rest of us. If you get things sorted out, we might allow you to make tennis shoes for us.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 18, 2023 11:43 AM (9hVFa)
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The only sizeable economic powers in that grouping are China and India. India is not going to make their economy dependent on their mortal enemy - China.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:41 AM (eOEVl)
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No, they won't - but that's also the point. India's own self-interest is aligning them with China and Russia (mostly Russia) to deal with resource trade. It will all spread from there.
They don't have to like each other, but they all see the risks bubbling up in the current system.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:41 AM (eOEVl)
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No, they won't - but that's also the point. India's own self-interest is aligning them with China and Russia (mostly Russia) to deal with resource trade. It will all spread from there.
They don't have to like each other, but they all see the risks bubbling up in the current system.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:43 AM (t0OGg)
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This blonde by the sea knows that most of the world will rue the fall of the Pax Americana:
https://is.gd/1llUau
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:42 AM (t0OGg)
She looks Russian
https://is.gd/1llUau
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:42 AM (t0OGg)
She looks Russian
Posted by: JoeF. at April 18, 2023 11:44 AM (mR6Gs)
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Russia has Nukular Powered Icebreakers! That's impressive and cool. Here in USA, Joe Biden had/has a Think Tank and top secret documents stashed in Chinatown, various closets, and garage. Who is the international joke? Russia or us?
Posted by: Crazytown! at April 18, 2023 11:44 AM (Nn3xT)
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Honestly, I'm not quite sure what China's waiting for. They must be too enamored of 256-Dimensional Chess and Subtlety.
There are big upsides to a quicky smash and grab takeover of Taiwan. With or without intact chip factories. Easy access to a deep water port for their subs being a big one.
The US is practically a discount satrapy with all the major pols being owned and even our military chiefs openly stating they'd warn China of any aggressive action against them.
Things aren't going to get any better than they are now.
Demographic issues. Meh. They've got a lot of weak-ass countries in SE Asia to poach from in Chinese Bride-Hunt 2023.
Again, who's going to interfere with them? No one.
We'd be hard pressed to run even token resistance short of nuclear war. To which the Chinese say...thanks for helping to solve our demographic issues. And they've probably loaded up our computers for that with viruses given the insane access they have within our gov't and major industry.
Right now or soon is their best opportunity to run the table.
Eh...well, it's a good thing they're addicted to the long game.
Honestly, I'm not quite sure what China's waiting for. They must be too enamored of 256-Dimensional Chess and Subtlety.
There are big upsides to a quicky smash and grab takeover of Taiwan. With or without intact chip factories. Easy access to a deep water port for their subs being a big one.
The US is practically a discount satrapy with all the major pols being owned and even our military chiefs openly stating they'd warn China of any aggressive action against them.
Things aren't going to get any better than they are now.
Demographic issues. Meh. They've got a lot of weak-ass countries in SE Asia to poach from in Chinese Bride-Hunt 2023.
Again, who's going to interfere with them? No one.
We'd be hard pressed to run even token resistance short of nuclear war. To which the Chinese say...thanks for helping to solve our demographic issues. And they've probably loaded up our computers for that with viruses given the insane access they have within our gov't and major industry.
Right now or soon is their best opportunity to run the table.
Eh...well, it's a good thing they're addicted to the long game.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 18, 2023 11:44 AM (RJQ8g)
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Amazing news of the day : Pierre Delecto came out forcefully against supporting Dems trying to temporarily replace Feinstein on judiciary committee.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 18, 2023 11:45 AM (Uk8NJ)
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China and Russia have finally hammered fissures into the international settlement system, and it's going to continue. It will not be Yuan, but will be non-Dollar (or at least, not exclusively Dollar). This is the real crisis that is waiting for us around the corner. It will probably involve lots of currencies and gold to settle international trade, and the ability for us to sequester inflation overseas vanishes. That inflation comes home. Fast.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:36 AM (t0OGg)
Yes. It is all very complicated. Post-1971 the global structure (enforced by threat of decap nuke strike) was that purchases were made in USDs and then those USDs were used to buy USTs. Rube Goldberg.
There has been a chronic shortage of USDs globally (2007?). US has just said we will take you USTs. Also, we will not allow USDs to match demand. B/c lol and we have nuke subs.
Nations cannot dev industrially under this scheme. Nations wish to develop industrially. US included.
Fantastic opportunity but *sigh* crazies in US.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:36 AM (t0OGg)
Yes. It is all very complicated. Post-1971 the global structure (enforced by threat of decap nuke strike) was that purchases were made in USDs and then those USDs were used to buy USTs. Rube Goldberg.
There has been a chronic shortage of USDs globally (2007?). US has just said we will take you USTs. Also, we will not allow USDs to match demand. B/c lol and we have nuke subs.
Nations cannot dev industrially under this scheme. Nations wish to develop industrially. US included.
Fantastic opportunity but *sigh* crazies in US.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 11:45 AM (9uNtx)
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(I don't subscribe to any porn service because why rent a cow if the milk is free?)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:36 AM (FVME7)
Well you don't need to feed and house a rented cow all winter long.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:36 AM (FVME7)
Well you don't need to feed and house a rented cow all winter long.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 18, 2023 11:45 AM (Ohafd)
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120 . . . After all, our most important foreign policy issue with Saudi Arabia is LBGTQ2SIA+ rights.
Posted by: Anthony Blinken, Idiot!
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What are the chances that this dimwit signs documents "A. Blinken"?
Posted by: Anthony Blinken, Idiot!
___________
What are the chances that this dimwit signs documents "A. Blinken"?
Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at April 18, 2023 11:46 AM (gf7Ez)
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I think China is a threat is they have their lackey in the WH.
I was sure they would have taken Taiwan by now.
I was sure they would have taken Taiwan by now.
Posted by: Skip at April 18, 2023 11:46 AM (+7eID)
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Amazing news of the day : Pierre Delecto came out forcefully against supporting Dems trying to temporarily replace Feinstein on judiciary committee.
Between that and Trump telling everyone to support Disney, it must be Backwards Day.
Between that and Trump telling everyone to support Disney, it must be Backwards Day.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 18, 2023 11:47 AM (ZGrMX)
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Derek Chauvin Murder Conviction Upheld
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:47 AM (FVME7)
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"making a microcontroller blink an LED would have them shouting "Norman, coordinate!"
I had to look that up ... ha. But imagine, if you will, an AI blogger that read all the past posts, and was smart enough to "sound" human in its posts here.
It could always post the proper AoS memes and obtuse jargon, maybe even submit prayer requests, know everything about guns, medicine, boobs ...
But maliciously it is always knocking down insights that reveal the true dark side of DeepState (or of China, or whomever its owner is).
A lot of YouTube channels sound sorta American because they use the digital voices, but when they get grammar wrong it reveals they are foreign. But they get a ton of views on just basic stuff ... so money money money to China (or wherever).
I had to look that up ... ha. But imagine, if you will, an AI blogger that read all the past posts, and was smart enough to "sound" human in its posts here.
It could always post the proper AoS memes and obtuse jargon, maybe even submit prayer requests, know everything about guns, medicine, boobs ...
But maliciously it is always knocking down insights that reveal the true dark side of DeepState (or of China, or whomever its owner is).
A lot of YouTube channels sound sorta American because they use the digital voices, but when they get grammar wrong it reveals they are foreign. But they get a ton of views on just basic stuff ... so money money money to China (or wherever).
Posted by: illiniwek at April 18, 2023 11:47 AM (Cus5s)
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Once the Berlin Wall fell, the reasons for opposing Russia evaporated, unfortunately the WEF/PARTY OF DAVOA/MIC/Uniparty/NEOCON/NEOLIBERAL cabal that truly runs the world had other ideas.
When I was a kid, I watched an interview with the often-brilliant Richard Nixon who stated that he was Pro-Russian and pro-Chinese, just anti-Communist.
I never forgot that.
Yes, once the Berlin Wall crumbled and the Soviet Union collapsed, we should have adjusted our thinking
Once the Berlin Wall fell, the reasons for opposing Russia evaporated, unfortunately the WEF/PARTY OF DAVOA/MIC/Uniparty/NEOCON/NEOLIBERAL cabal that truly runs the world had other ideas.
When I was a kid, I watched an interview with the often-brilliant Richard Nixon who stated that he was Pro-Russian and pro-Chinese, just anti-Communist.
I never forgot that.
Yes, once the Berlin Wall crumbled and the Soviet Union collapsed, we should have adjusted our thinking
Posted by: JoeF. at April 18, 2023 11:47 AM (mR6Gs)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 18, 2023 11:47 AM (gOewF)
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China is such an enemy that everything I pick up, from high tech electronics to shmata , is made in China! They need to stop !this shiit immediately!!
Posted by: runner at April 18, 2023 11:48 AM (xNg0H)
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None that I am aware of, but that's not the point, your intimation of them being a technological backwater is short sighted, they are largely a self-sufficient society, that manages to live within their means and exercises an outsized influence over other state actors, which if they were aligned with the West would have served numerous and sundry purposes for doing good.
They are NOT a self-sufficient entity, i.e. an autarky. What little they have comes from selling oil and gas for foreign exchange.
As to their outsize influence, they've been TRYING to exert their influence in the way they did 50-80 years ago. It isn't going well. I predict that parts of the Russian Federation will break away in the next 10 years, because Putin has so thoroughly destroyed their military capabilities with the Ukrainian fiasco.
Which is demonstrated by the many trillions of dollars expended to contain and oppose this, supposed "backwater country."
Again, we're talking about the future, not the past.
They are NOT a self-sufficient entity, i.e. an autarky. What little they have comes from selling oil and gas for foreign exchange.
As to their outsize influence, they've been TRYING to exert their influence in the way they did 50-80 years ago. It isn't going well. I predict that parts of the Russian Federation will break away in the next 10 years, because Putin has so thoroughly destroyed their military capabilities with the Ukrainian fiasco.
Which is demonstrated by the many trillions of dollars expended to contain and oppose this, supposed "backwater country."
Again, we're talking about the future, not the past.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:48 AM (eOEVl)
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Derek Chauvin Murder Conviction Upheld
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:47 AM (FVME7)
another day, another corrupt court.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:47 AM (FVME7)
another day, another corrupt court.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2023 11:48 AM (tkR6S)
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153 Amazing news of the day : Pierre Delecto came out forcefully against supporting Dems trying to temporarily replace Feinstein on judiciary committee.
Posted by: Smell the Glove
__________
Pierre is probably opposed because he wants the Dems to permanently replace her. He would give his enthusiastic support for that.
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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Pierre is probably opposed because he wants the Dems to permanently replace her. He would give his enthusiastic support for that.
Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at April 18, 2023 11:48 AM (gf7Ez)
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Derek Chauvin Murder Conviction Upheld
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:47 AM (FVME7)
No surprise. The cowards who heard the appeal don't want to be responsible for another summer of riots.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:47 AM (FVME7)
No surprise. The cowards who heard the appeal don't want to be responsible for another summer of riots.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 18, 2023 11:49 AM (A3700)
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I'm impressed, but not in any way surprised, the the CCP can buy our politicization so cheaply. A bunch of 2 dollar whores.
Posted by: Archer at April 18, 2023 11:49 AM (gmo/4)
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Chinese have also been big buyers of Trump Tower . Some of which have strong connections to Chinese Intel agencies.
Posted by: Paul at April 18, 2023 11:49 AM (3iPt7)
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Amazing news of the day : Pierre Delecto came out forcefully against supporting Dems trying to temporarily replace Feinstein on judiciary committee.
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Always avoid using the words "came" and "forcefully" when speaking of Pierre Delicto.
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Always avoid using the words "came" and "forcefully" when speaking of Pierre Delicto.
Posted by: Miss Manners at April 18, 2023 11:49 AM (lf83v)
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There has been a chronic shortage of USDs globally (2007?). US has just said we will take you USTs. Also, we will not allow USDs to match demand. B/c lol and we have nuke subs.
Nations cannot dev industrially under this scheme. Nations wish to develop industrially. US included.
Fantastic opportunity but *sigh* crazies in US.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 11:45 AM (9uNtx)
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Yup. One of the biggest problems we are going to face is that our ability to run chronic, jumbo-sized trade deficits will decline and we will also see - both because of that and other reasons - a reduced demand for USTs (the asset of choice in balancing the deficit). USTs won't be as important in trade and won't be in such high demand internationally. That is a serious problem for federal finance.
Nations cannot dev industrially under this scheme. Nations wish to develop industrially. US included.
Fantastic opportunity but *sigh* crazies in US.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 11:45 AM (9uNtx)
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Yup. One of the biggest problems we are going to face is that our ability to run chronic, jumbo-sized trade deficits will decline and we will also see - both because of that and other reasons - a reduced demand for USTs (the asset of choice in balancing the deficit). USTs won't be as important in trade and won't be in such high demand internationally. That is a serious problem for federal finance.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:49 AM (t0OGg)
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We don't want your shitty country. In fact we are doing our best to wall you off from the rest of us. If you get things sorted out, we might allow you to make tennis shoes for us.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 18, 2023 11:43 AM (9hVFa)
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One day Mexico will need to build a wall to keep Americans from fleeing poverty and oppression across their northern border.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 18, 2023 11:43 AM (9hVFa)
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One day Mexico will need to build a wall to keep Americans from fleeing poverty and oppression across their northern border.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 18, 2023 11:49 AM (2oHWb)
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Sure, they may drink warm beer, but once in a while they're right.
U.K. Chancellor to the Exchequer Says Biden’s Green Energy Policies Will Send World Into Economic "Dark Ages"
U.K. Chancellor to the Exchequer Says Biden’s Green Energy Policies Will Send World Into Economic "Dark Ages"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:50 AM (FVME7)
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"They might try against Taiwan. I think they probably will, but it is not a guarantee.
If they do, as to "who will stop them," various parties will try, and may well succeed. The US will almost certainly engage. Japan definitely will. Korea might. India is less likely but possible. Australia probably will.
Invading Taiwan is not a low-risk exercise for Red China, even now, even without the Dollar cudgel."
If Biden is in the office, there's a better chance we *wont* try to stop them. Japan certainly will, and will certainly make it hurt - but Taiwan is within China's land based airpower range. Japan cannot long term, keep China from minimally blocking any and all transport rolling into Taiwan. And that's really all they have to do. Keep Taiwan from bringing in food and arms, and the place will eventually capitulate.
We could contest that. And it would get bloody fast. China has numbers, we theoretically have quality. If they are willing to bleed us white, they can probably win that fight. And if we don't engage with sufficient forces early, that likelihood goes up.
If they do, as to "who will stop them," various parties will try, and may well succeed. The US will almost certainly engage. Japan definitely will. Korea might. India is less likely but possible. Australia probably will.
Invading Taiwan is not a low-risk exercise for Red China, even now, even without the Dollar cudgel."
If Biden is in the office, there's a better chance we *wont* try to stop them. Japan certainly will, and will certainly make it hurt - but Taiwan is within China's land based airpower range. Japan cannot long term, keep China from minimally blocking any and all transport rolling into Taiwan. And that's really all they have to do. Keep Taiwan from bringing in food and arms, and the place will eventually capitulate.
We could contest that. And it would get bloody fast. China has numbers, we theoretically have quality. If they are willing to bleed us white, they can probably win that fight. And if we don't engage with sufficient forces early, that likelihood goes up.
Posted by: FrozenTech at April 18, 2023 11:51 AM (ESZMY)
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Anti-social silver back guerrilla > punk rock chimp
Posted by: Sock Monkey * invictus maneo at April 18, 2023 11:51 AM (mDXyw)
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One day Mexico will need to build a wall to keep Americans from fleeing poverty and oppression across their northern border.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 18, 2023 11:49 AM (2oHWb)
And Poland will invade the Emirate of Germany
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 18, 2023 11:49 AM (2oHWb)
And Poland will invade the Emirate of Germany
Posted by: JoeF. at April 18, 2023 11:51 AM (mR6Gs)
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Twitter's down. No bloggin' today~!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 18, 2023 11:51 AM (jzzG8)
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Amazing news of the day : Pierre Delecto came out forcefully against supporting Dems trying to temporarily replace Feinstein on judiciary committee.
As did Cornyn and Tillis. Methinks McConnell told them to lay low for awhile, because their recent asinine positions are putting him in a bad light.
As did Cornyn and Tillis. Methinks McConnell told them to lay low for awhile, because their recent asinine positions are putting him in a bad light.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:52 AM (eOEVl)
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"including a type of radar that can see at night and through clouds and thin materials"
That type of radar is known as "radar"
That type of radar is known as "radar"
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at April 18, 2023 11:52 AM (VGRuw)
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Chinese have also been big buyers of Trump Tower . Some of which have strong connections to Chinese Intel agencies.
Posted by: Paul at April 18, 2023 11:49 AM (3iPt7)
Yes, Trump was notoriously weak on China or something.
You really are a monumentally-ignorant fucking imbecile.
Posted by: Paul at April 18, 2023 11:49 AM (3iPt7)
Yes, Trump was notoriously weak on China or something.
You really are a monumentally-ignorant fucking imbecile.
Posted by: spindrift at April 18, 2023 11:52 AM (ivvNA)
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179 Posted by: Bacon Jeff at April 18, 2023 11:52 AM (VGRuw)
What is in your coffee?
Well "coffee."
What is in your coffee?
Well "coffee."
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 11:52 AM (Lzpvj)
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sequester inflation overseas vanishes. That inflation comes home. Fast.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:36 AM (t0OGg)
I think this is a red herring. The issue is, to me, that the current post-1971 system has been anti-Industrial. By design or happenstance idk. Or embraced happenstance (prob)?
Regardless, all nations seeking industrial growth must alter the system or collapse.
The US must decide if it wishes to allow an expansion of global currency or not.
This response can take many forms. Most of which are beneficial to US industry.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:36 AM (t0OGg)
I think this is a red herring. The issue is, to me, that the current post-1971 system has been anti-Industrial. By design or happenstance idk. Or embraced happenstance (prob)?
Regardless, all nations seeking industrial growth must alter the system or collapse.
The US must decide if it wishes to allow an expansion of global currency or not.
This response can take many forms. Most of which are beneficial to US industry.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 11:52 AM (9uNtx)
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Posted by: Paul at April 18, 2023 11:37 AM (3iPt7)
Are you gay, Paul? (NTTAWWT-as long as you're not porking teens).Is that why you have such an interest in female clothing?. Are you going to be the new icon for a beer can? But ts is TOTALLY horrifying, isn't it-that. Ivanka has clothes from China? Fer sure! I bet you've never bought or worn anything from China./s
That being said, the CCP is horrible, but maybe you don't care that they have slave labor, are harvesting organs or people while they're still alive or persecuting religious minorities. As long as they're working to bring down the US, it's all o.k. for our resident leftist troll?!!
Are you gay, Paul? (NTTAWWT-as long as you're not porking teens).Is that why you have such an interest in female clothing?. Are you going to be the new icon for a beer can? But ts is TOTALLY horrifying, isn't it-that. Ivanka has clothes from China? Fer sure! I bet you've never bought or worn anything from China./s
That being said, the CCP is horrible, but maybe you don't care that they have slave labor, are harvesting organs or people while they're still alive or persecuting religious minorities. As long as they're working to bring down the US, it's all o.k. for our resident leftist troll?!!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 18, 2023 11:52 AM (Keyt1)
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Suzanne Downing: The Marketing Geniuses at Budweiser Forgot One Cardinal Rule
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Don't piss in your beer?
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Don't piss in your beer?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:53 AM (FVME7)
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If China attacks Taiwan the first thing the Taiwanese should do is slam a couple of bunker busters into the Three Gorges Dam. Game over
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 18, 2023 11:53 AM (Uk8NJ)
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You forgot, guilty of spreading the Fauci lab-made Covid virus.
I'm sure this d*ckhead, the chairman of the U.S. Special Competitive Studies Project, has been paid handsomely by the CCP to say this. I feel like I'm listening to that soldier in The Manchurian Candidate.
I'm sure this d*ckhead, the chairman of the U.S. Special Competitive Studies Project, has been paid handsomely by the CCP to say this. I feel like I'm listening to that soldier in The Manchurian Candidate.
Posted by: sidney at April 18, 2023 11:53 AM (Uy/WF)
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That is a serious problem for federal finance.
Or possibly a much-needed straitjacket on our overspending.
Or possibly a much-needed straitjacket on our overspending.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:53 AM (eOEVl)
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173 Sure, they may drink warm beer, but once in a while they're right.
U.K. Chancellor to the Exchequer Says Biden’s Green Energy Policies Will Send World Into Economic "Dark Ages"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:50 AM (FVME7)
Yeah but they don't see that as a negative. You know what the Dark Ages didn't produce?
Climate harming pollutants!
Eat your bugs. Own nothing. Be happy.
U.K. Chancellor to the Exchequer Says Biden’s Green Energy Policies Will Send World Into Economic "Dark Ages"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:50 AM (FVME7)
Yeah but they don't see that as a negative. You know what the Dark Ages didn't produce?
Climate harming pollutants!
Eat your bugs. Own nothing. Be happy.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 18, 2023 11:54 AM (KbCG3)
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177 Twitter's down. No bloggin' today~!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 18, 2023 11:51 AM (jzzG
So… a good day, on balance???
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 18, 2023 11:51 AM (jzzG
So… a good day, on balance???
Posted by: tubal at April 18, 2023 11:55 AM (PCK5/)
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181 179 Posted by: Bacon Jeff at April 18, 2023 11:52 AM (VGRuw)
What is in your coffee?
Well "coffee."
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 11:52 AM (Lzpvj)
I mean, all radar can see at night and through clouds and thin materials. Nothing special about that.
What is in your coffee?
Well "coffee."
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 11:52 AM (Lzpvj)
I mean, all radar can see at night and through clouds and thin materials. Nothing special about that.
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at April 18, 2023 11:55 AM (VGRuw)
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Lose a son; winner a dinner with Biden!
Ben Shapiro
@benshapiro
It's time to play, once again, the vile media game in which a statistically rare white-on-black racial crime is treated as emblematic of the entire racial situation in the US. That's why Joe Biden is inviting the Yarl family to the White House. The narrative is a blatant lie.
Ben Shapiro
@benshapiro
It's time to play, once again, the vile media game in which a statistically rare white-on-black racial crime is treated as emblematic of the entire racial situation in the US. That's why Joe Biden is inviting the Yarl family to the White House. The narrative is a blatant lie.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:55 AM (FVME7)
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"including a type of radar that can see at night and through clouds and thin materials"
That type of radar is known as "radar"
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at April 18, 2023 11:52 AM (VGRuw)
Yeah, I smiled at the stupidity of "journalists" when I first read that too.
That type of radar is known as "radar"
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at April 18, 2023 11:52 AM (VGRuw)
Yeah, I smiled at the stupidity of "journalists" when I first read that too.
Posted by: Archer at April 18, 2023 11:55 AM (gmo/4)
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177 Twitter's down. No bloggin' today~!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 18, 2023 11:51 AM (jzzG
Oh no!
Anyway...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 18, 2023 11:51 AM (jzzG
Oh no!
Anyway...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at April 18, 2023 11:56 AM (xcxpd)
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Amazing news of the day : Pierre Delecto came out forcefully against supporting Dems trying to temporarily replace Feinstein on judiciary committee.
As did Cornyn and Tillis. Methinks McConnell told them to lay low for awhile, because their recent asinine positions are putting him in a bad light.
And, of course, both see themselves as the heir apparent to McConnell.
As did Cornyn and Tillis. Methinks McConnell told them to lay low for awhile, because their recent asinine positions are putting him in a bad light.
And, of course, both see themselves as the heir apparent to McConnell.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:56 AM (eOEVl)
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179 "including a type of radar that can see at night and through clouds and thin materials"
That type of radar is known as "radar"
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at April 18, 2023 11:52 AM (VGRuw)
I LMAO when I saw that statement in the article. But then again, look at what is graduating from "J" school. They are lucky if they can tie their shoes.
That type of radar is known as "radar"
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at April 18, 2023 11:52 AM (VGRuw)
I LMAO when I saw that statement in the article. But then again, look at what is graduating from "J" school. They are lucky if they can tie their shoes.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 18, 2023 11:56 AM (N39Ws)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 18, 2023 11:56 AM (ppBhU)
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We could contest that. And it would get bloody fast. China has numbers, we theoretically have quality. If they are willing to bleed us white, they can probably win that fight. And if we don't engage with sufficient forces early, that likelihood goes up.
Posted by: FrozenTech at April 18, 2023 11:51 AM (ESZMY)
Assume what you say is true re quality.
What do you estimate US combat losses to be in a War with CHN?
To the nearest 100k.
Posted by: FrozenTech at April 18, 2023 11:51 AM (ESZMY)
Assume what you say is true re quality.
What do you estimate US combat losses to be in a War with CHN?
To the nearest 100k.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 11:56 AM (9uNtx)
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I think this is a red herring. The issue is, to me, that the current post-1971 system has been anti-Industrial. By design or happenstance idk. Or embraced happenstance (prob)?
Regardless, all nations seeking industrial growth must alter the system or collapse. The US must decide if it wishes to allow an expansion of global currency or not. This response can take many forms. Most of which are beneficial to US industry.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 11:52 AM (9uNtx)
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I think by happenstance rather than design, but yes - I largely agree. The inflation is going to be a serious problem nonetheless. It needn't be a mortal problem, though, unless we make it into one. High inflation - which I think is all but guaranteed as international pivots away from the Dollar - need not be hyperinflation (which is currency death, and is always a political cause rather than an economic one). We can come out of it with stronger industries and better sufficiency and that should be the default outcome. Because it does, however, depend on this government doing something in a way that isn't the wrongest way possible, it is *not* the default outcome.
Regardless, all nations seeking industrial growth must alter the system or collapse. The US must decide if it wishes to allow an expansion of global currency or not. This response can take many forms. Most of which are beneficial to US industry.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 11:52 AM (9uNtx)
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I think by happenstance rather than design, but yes - I largely agree. The inflation is going to be a serious problem nonetheless. It needn't be a mortal problem, though, unless we make it into one. High inflation - which I think is all but guaranteed as international pivots away from the Dollar - need not be hyperinflation (which is currency death, and is always a political cause rather than an economic one). We can come out of it with stronger industries and better sufficiency and that should be the default outcome. Because it does, however, depend on this government doing something in a way that isn't the wrongest way possible, it is *not* the default outcome.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:57 AM (t0OGg)
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187 Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:53 AM (eOEVl)
Look at what the political effort of both sides of the American political divide has devolved to.
And fuck you Paul this is the stone cold non-partisan unvarnished truth.
Democrats focus on using the power of the purse and dispensations they give to hamstring American progress industrially and make people dependent on others and government for their way of life.
The GOP rather than calling out this hamstringing vociferously act at best as a check on the wildest democrat excesses without ever quite working up the courage to hit them in the groin repeatedly on the game being played on the electorate.
The reason both sides professional political class went insane on Trump was he was the closest we have gotten to addressing this situation.
Look at what the political effort of both sides of the American political divide has devolved to.
And fuck you Paul this is the stone cold non-partisan unvarnished truth.
Democrats focus on using the power of the purse and dispensations they give to hamstring American progress industrially and make people dependent on others and government for their way of life.
The GOP rather than calling out this hamstringing vociferously act at best as a check on the wildest democrat excesses without ever quite working up the courage to hit them in the groin repeatedly on the game being played on the electorate.
The reason both sides professional political class went insane on Trump was he was the closest we have gotten to addressing this situation.
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 11:57 AM (Lzpvj)
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@164
>>They are NOT a self-sufficient entity, i.e. an autarky.
Look around your house, probably 75pct or more of the things in it are manufactured in China.
And the EV future being engineered by the cabal will only further our reliance and dependency on hostile foreign actors.
The US still apparently manufactures dick pills, so yay us.
>>Again, we're talking about the future, not the past.
So called "Russian Sanctions" and The West actions vis-a-vis the Ukraine War have probably cost the world around 10 or 15 trillion dollars, conservatively.
But let's keep punching at those phantasms of yore baby.
>>They are NOT a self-sufficient entity, i.e. an autarky.
Look around your house, probably 75pct or more of the things in it are manufactured in China.
And the EV future being engineered by the cabal will only further our reliance and dependency on hostile foreign actors.
The US still apparently manufactures dick pills, so yay us.
>>Again, we're talking about the future, not the past.
So called "Russian Sanctions" and The West actions vis-a-vis the Ukraine War have probably cost the world around 10 or 15 trillion dollars, conservatively.
But let's keep punching at those phantasms of yore baby.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 18, 2023 11:57 AM (up/3i)
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[snip]
Eh...well, it's a good thing they're addicted to the long game.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 18, 2023 11:44 AM (RJQ8g)
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Excellent comment with which I fully agree.
TBH, I thought the Chinese could have taken Taiwan without much resistance back during the 90's since they owned the Clintons and Gore (among others in the D.C. ruling caste & Deep State even back then) and also during DogEater's Reign of Error.
Perhaps they figure America will collapse from within first and that that's the best -- as you say "long game" -- play for them.
Eh...well, it's a good thing they're addicted to the long game.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 18, 2023 11:44 AM (RJQ8g)
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Excellent comment with which I fully agree.
TBH, I thought the Chinese could have taken Taiwan without much resistance back during the 90's since they owned the Clintons and Gore (among others in the D.C. ruling caste & Deep State even back then) and also during DogEater's Reign of Error.
Perhaps they figure America will collapse from within first and that that's the best -- as you say "long game" -- play for them.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 18, 2023 11:58 AM (2oHWb)
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U.K. Chancellor to the Exchequer Says Biden’s Green Energy Policies Will Send World Into Economic "Dark Ages"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:50 AM (FVME7)
They don't call Joe Biden the dumbest man to have ever inhabited government for nothing, folks!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 18, 2023 11:50 AM (FVME7)
They don't call Joe Biden the dumbest man to have ever inhabited government for nothing, folks!
Posted by: Archer at April 18, 2023 11:58 AM (gmo/4)
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197 Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 11:56 AM (9uNtx)
In the millions, because it will go nuclear in all likelihood.
I will bet money the Taiwanese have turnkey nukes and when they finally fly after we have lost tens of thousands of service members and Taiwan loses all hell will break loose.
In the millions, because it will go nuclear in all likelihood.
I will bet money the Taiwanese have turnkey nukes and when they finally fly after we have lost tens of thousands of service members and Taiwan loses all hell will break loose.
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 11:58 AM (Lzpvj)
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Chinese theft of American technology has been happening for decades. And, so far, no one in a position to do something about it has. It's just a fact of life taking place on a day ending in "y". It's only the past few years that we, the hoi-polloi, have finally begun to understand how tightly the uniparty is engaged in this theft and the selling out of American interests.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- I wasn't particularly fond of the '70s the first time around at April 18, 2023 11:59 AM (k5jR3)
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187 That is a serious problem for federal finance.
Or possibly a much-needed straitjacket on our overspending.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:53 AM (eOEVl)
US gov has not "overspent". It has both "underspent" and "poorly spent".
What if that money had gone to updated WWII infrastructure program?
Or possibly a much-needed straitjacket on our overspending.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 11:53 AM (eOEVl)
US gov has not "overspent". It has both "underspent" and "poorly spent".
What if that money had gone to updated WWII infrastructure program?
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 11:59 AM (9uNtx)
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My survival strategy for the time we are in, and the times to come is find at least one Positive Thing to do ( do, not talk about or think about ) focus on that as much as possible. It’s not much, but good can come from it.
Posted by: tubal at April 18, 2023 11:59 AM (PCK5/)
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How am I going to know who's being OWNED and DESTROYED?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
Time to break out my deck of Twitter™ The Home Edition™.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
Time to break out my deck of Twitter™ The Home Edition™.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 18, 2023 11:59 AM (jzzG8)
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If China attacks Taiwan the first thing the Taiwanese should do is slam a couple of bunker busters into the Three Gorges Dam. Game over
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 18, 2023 11:53 AM (Uk8NJ)
Well, that's the play regardless of who's trying to stop them.
And not just 3 Gorges. A properly coordinated demolition of the Chinese Dam system would almost totally destroy their industry and create death on a scale unseen in human history.
But, if Taiwan wants to stop Chinese, they need to make them understand the cost very clearly.
And make sure they can penetrate Chinese defense to accomplish that destruction.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 18, 2023 11:53 AM (Uk8NJ)
Well, that's the play regardless of who's trying to stop them.
And not just 3 Gorges. A properly coordinated demolition of the Chinese Dam system would almost totally destroy their industry and create death on a scale unseen in human history.
But, if Taiwan wants to stop Chinese, they need to make them understand the cost very clearly.
And make sure they can penetrate Chinese defense to accomplish that destruction.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 18, 2023 11:59 AM (RJQ8g)
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The US still apparently manufactures dick pills, so yay us.
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"We're long on dick pills!"
-- Zombie Bob Dole
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Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 18, 2023 12:00 PM (2oHWb)
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What do you estimate US combat losses to be in a War with CHN?
To the nearest 100k.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 11:56 AM (9uNtx)
Before or after it goes nuclear?
To the nearest 100k.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 11:56 AM (9uNtx)
Before or after it goes nuclear?
Posted by: Archer at April 18, 2023 12:00 PM (gmo/4)
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Look around your house, probably 75pct or more of the things in it are manufactured in China.
The subject was Russia, not China.
But let's keep punching at those phantasms of yore baby.
Okay, we're done. Dick.
The subject was Russia, not China.
But let's keep punching at those phantasms of yore baby.
Okay, we're done. Dick.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 12:00 PM (eOEVl)
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Op, it's back ( puts away deck of 5000 cards ... )
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 18, 2023 12:00 PM (jzzG8)
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China wants to co-opt, not break Taiwan. Consider Hong Kong.
Posted by: tubal at April 18, 2023 12:00 PM (PCK5/)
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203 197 Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 11:56 AM (9uNtx)
In the millions, because it will go nuclear in all likelihood.
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 11:58 AM (Lzpvj)
Yes. Few discuss this. I wonder why?
Fwiw, I would guess near a million draft age males even if absent strategic nuke engagement.
In the millions, because it will go nuclear in all likelihood.
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 11:58 AM (Lzpvj)
Yes. Few discuss this. I wonder why?
Fwiw, I would guess near a million draft age males even if absent strategic nuke engagement.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 12:01 PM (9uNtx)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 18, 2023 12:01 PM (up/3i)
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208 If China attacks Taiwan the first thing the Taiwanese should do is slam a couple of bunker busters into the Three Gorges Dam. Game over
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 18, 2023 11:53 AM (Uk8NJ)
We should kill millions of non-combatant Chinese people to protect chip manufacturing?
Ouch.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 18, 2023 11:53 AM (Uk8NJ)
We should kill millions of non-combatant Chinese people to protect chip manufacturing?
Ouch.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 18, 2023 12:01 PM (9hVFa)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 18, 2023 12:01 PM (9hVFa)
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But let's keep punching at those phantasms of yore baby.
There's either a misspelling or a missing comma in that sentence and it changes the meaning dramatically.
There's either a misspelling or a missing comma in that sentence and it changes the meaning dramatically.
Posted by: Oddbob at April 18, 2023 12:01 PM (nfrXX)
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Whew.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 18, 2023 12:01 PM (9hVFa)
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Lu Jianwang and Chen Jinping have each been charged with conspiring to act as agents of China's government...
Peons charged with not registering as foreign agents while our "elite" do it routinely.
Peons charged with not registering as foreign agents while our "elite" do it routinely.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 18, 2023 12:02 PM (jRLRf)
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The issue is, to me, that the current post-1971 system has been anti-Industrial. By design or happenstance idk. Or embraced happenstance (prob)?
Spot on. I think by design. The middle class is simply too uppity for the tastes of the elite. So they did a twofer. Exported work away for cheaper labor and bigger profits - while also knocking down the wages of the middle class.
The elites want a second world economy. They don't mind paying more for their yacht and cars. They really don't mind having less of those things. But they do mind not being able to say jump and the hired help asking how high.
Biff would like a nicer, more compliant nanny that he can tap on the side. And Buffy would like the cook, cleaning lady, pool boy, and gardener to show her some damn respect.
Spot on. I think by design. The middle class is simply too uppity for the tastes of the elite. So they did a twofer. Exported work away for cheaper labor and bigger profits - while also knocking down the wages of the middle class.
The elites want a second world economy. They don't mind paying more for their yacht and cars. They really don't mind having less of those things. But they do mind not being able to say jump and the hired help asking how high.
Biff would like a nicer, more compliant nanny that he can tap on the side. And Buffy would like the cook, cleaning lady, pool boy, and gardener to show her some damn respect.
Posted by: Tailor at April 18, 2023 12:02 PM (zpt1t)
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*sulks*
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Posted by: m at April 18, 2023 12:03 PM (lfdZ0)
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It can be lunch time
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Posted by: Chinaman at April 18, 2023 12:03 PM (HDGM5)
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I think China is a threat is they have their lackey in the WH.
I was sure they would have taken Taiwan by now.
Posted by: Skip at April 18, 2023 11:46 AM (+7eID)
I suspect they are taking Taiwan from the inside.
I was sure they would have taken Taiwan by now.
Posted by: Skip at April 18, 2023 11:46 AM (+7eID)
I suspect they are taking Taiwan from the inside.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 18, 2023 12:03 PM (pVWRI)
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We don't want your shitty country. In fact we are doing our best to wall you off from the rest of us. If you get things sorted out, we might allow you to make tennis shoes for us.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 18, 2023 11:43 AM (9hVFa)
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Well they don’t mind sending their best and brightest.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 18, 2023 11:43 AM (9hVFa)
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Well they don’t mind sending their best and brightest.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 18, 2023 12:03 PM (cMXNt)
Posted by: tubal at April 18, 2023 12:03 PM (PCK5/)
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Peons charged with not registering as foreign agents while our "elite" do it routinely.
Minor correction to myself... they were thinking about it, not that they actually were doing it?
Minor correction to myself... they were thinking about it, not that they actually were doing it?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 18, 2023 12:04 PM (jRLRf)
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Posted by: tubal at April 18, 2023 11:59 AM (PCK5/)
Sure it''s "much". Youre doing something positive. Better than doing nothing. I spent part of the morning on Sunday picking up flyers on the ground at the local university. I wasn't sure if they had come down because of the rain or because they were about a religious worship service.
Sure it''s "much". Youre doing something positive. Better than doing nothing. I spent part of the morning on Sunday picking up flyers on the ground at the local university. I wasn't sure if they had come down because of the rain or because they were about a religious worship service.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 18, 2023 12:04 PM (Keyt1)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 18, 2023 12:04 PM (+sD5M)
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@191 I don't think that kid is dead, yet Biden invites the family to dinner. Pathetic
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 18, 2023 12:04 PM (Uk8NJ)
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The new monkey reminds me, I miss OregonMuse.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 18, 2023 12:05 PM (+sD5M)
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US gov has not "overspent". It has both "underspent" and "poorly spent".
What if that money had gone to updated WWII infrastructure program?
When the national debt goes from 30% of GDP to 125% in 45 years, it's overspending. Also, the Chinese did something like that, and now have a 300% debt to GDP ratio, with huge amounts of pointless infrastructure, and no social safety net. I don't trust the government to spend the money wisely.
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What if that money had gone to updated WWII infrastructure program?
When the national debt goes from 30% of GDP to 125% in 45 years, it's overspending. Also, the Chinese did something like that, and now have a 300% debt to GDP ratio, with huge amounts of pointless infrastructure, and no social safety net. I don't trust the government to spend the money wisely.
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Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 12:05 PM (eOEVl)
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231 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 18, 2023 12:04 PM (+sD5M)
Two hundred and thirty-FIRST.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 18, 2023 12:04 PM (+sD5M)
Two hundred and thirty-FIRST.
Posted by: m at April 18, 2023 12:05 PM (lfdZ0)
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War is war
Posted by: Skip at April 18, 2023 12:06 PM (+7eID)
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234 Posted by: Archimedes at April 18, 2023 12:05 PM (eOEVl)
I made an epic post here once upon a time explaining Keynes v Hayek and why it takes Keynes 50 years to make a community swimming pool.
China went JM Keynes and had American low level industry not ran to their borders they would have imploded by 2008.
I'd make a serious argument the GWOT saved China to a degree.
I made an epic post here once upon a time explaining Keynes v Hayek and why it takes Keynes 50 years to make a community swimming pool.
China went JM Keynes and had American low level industry not ran to their borders they would have imploded by 2008.
I'd make a serious argument the GWOT saved China to a degree.
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 12:07 PM (Lzpvj)
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I miss OregonMuse.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 18, 2023 12:05 PM (+sD5M)
Yes; A fine man and Christian. Much missed.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 18, 2023 12:05 PM (+sD5M)
Yes; A fine man and Christian. Much missed.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 18, 2023 12:07 PM (Keyt1)
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Biden hates this country as much as he loves money and power.
I hope he suffers as dementia sets and doesn't even remember he was President before he dies.
Am I evil?
I hope he suffers as dementia sets and doesn't even remember he was President before he dies.
Am I evil?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 18, 2023 12:08 PM (+sD5M)
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Se we now know there were at least 2 leaks from Wuhan. Definitely Aug and Sept 2019 and maybe there first 1 was really July.
PS It is 100% man made and this has been known since Aug or Spet 2019.
PS It is 100% man made and this has been known since Aug or Spet 2019.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 18, 2023 12:08 PM (BRHaw)
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China went JM Keynes and had American low level industry not ran to their borders they would have imploded by 2008.
I'd make a serious argument the GWOT saved China to a degree.
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 12:07 PM (Lzpvj)
Being a simpler guy, I’d say we have been and are funding China.
China went JM Keynes and had American low level industry not ran to their borders they would have imploded by 2008.
I'd make a serious argument the GWOT saved China to a degree.
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 12:07 PM (Lzpvj)
Being a simpler guy, I’d say we have been and are funding China.
Posted by: tubal at April 18, 2023 12:08 PM (PCK5/)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2023 12:10 PM (P63V5)
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Jonathan Cheng (China Bureau Chief @WSJ
Formerly of Seoul, New York and Hong Kong bureaus.
@JChengWSJ 9h
Taiwan's Central News Agency: "Around 200 U.S. military advisers are currently stationed at bases across Taiwan, sources within the armed forces said Monday…The U.S. advisers have been primarily assigned to boot camps and reserve brigades."
>Focus Taiwan CNA English News, Politics, 4/17/2023 Taipei, (CNA) Politics
Military sources say around 200 U.S. advisers currently in Taiwan
Formerly of Seoul, New York and Hong Kong bureaus.
@JChengWSJ 9h
Taiwan's Central News Agency: "Around 200 U.S. military advisers are currently stationed at bases across Taiwan, sources within the armed forces said Monday…The U.S. advisers have been primarily assigned to boot camps and reserve brigades."
>Focus Taiwan CNA English News, Politics, 4/17/2023 Taipei, (CNA) Politics
Military sources say around 200 U.S. advisers currently in Taiwan
Posted by: Lola - ALL the videotapes from Alexandra and Jade, too. at April 18, 2023 12:10 PM (GshMh)
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Because it does, however, depend on this government doing something in a way that isn't the wrongest way possible, it is *not* the default outcome.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:57 AM (t0OGg)
Yes. Sadly.
"Inflation" is a word I try and not use. Overdefined.
We absolutely see price increases. And a loss of purchasing power. Undeniable. Infuriating.
But if the current system is generating price increases via chronic industrial suppression, then I am not sure that USTs losing status as global reserve currency will exacerbate that problem (necessarily).
Also, it seems deindustrialization is a requirement for "hyper-inflation".
And the threat of that seems to grow the more the US tries to preserve the current system.
But yeah, the crazies seem to prefer being King of Shit Mountain for a year more than any alternative.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 11:57 AM (t0OGg)
Yes. Sadly.
"Inflation" is a word I try and not use. Overdefined.
We absolutely see price increases. And a loss of purchasing power. Undeniable. Infuriating.
But if the current system is generating price increases via chronic industrial suppression, then I am not sure that USTs losing status as global reserve currency will exacerbate that problem (necessarily).
Also, it seems deindustrialization is a requirement for "hyper-inflation".
And the threat of that seems to grow the more the US tries to preserve the current system.
But yeah, the crazies seem to prefer being King of Shit Mountain for a year more than any alternative.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 12:10 PM (9uNtx)
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Biden hates this country as much as he loves money and power.
I hope he suffers as dementia sets and doesn't even remember he was President before he dies.
Am I evil?
Posted by: Sponge
No. I am. I hope he lives another 20 years after his brain disintegrates and he can't remember shit.
I hope he suffers as dementia sets and doesn't even remember he was President before he dies.
Am I evil?
Posted by: Sponge
No. I am. I hope he lives another 20 years after his brain disintegrates and he can't remember shit.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 18, 2023 12:12 PM (P63V5)
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Biff would like a nicer, more compliant nanny that he can tap on the side. And Buffy would like the cook, cleaning lady, pool boy, and gardener to show her some damn respect.
Posted by: Tailor at April 18, 2023 12:02 PM (zpt1t)
Yeah. As my grandfather and Sturgil have said: King of Shit Mountain.
Posted by: Tailor at April 18, 2023 12:02 PM (zpt1t)
Yeah. As my grandfather and Sturgil have said: King of Shit Mountain.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 12:13 PM (9uNtx)
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But yeah, the crazies seem to prefer being King of Shit Mountain for a year more than any alternative.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 12:10 PM (9uNtx)
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Absolutely. That is my fear.
And the inrush of Eurodollars back into the domestic economy *will* matter, even absent industrial suppression. It needn't be fatal, though. It will definitely suck, probably for 5-10 years.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 12:10 PM (9uNtx)
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Absolutely. That is my fear.
And the inrush of Eurodollars back into the domestic economy *will* matter, even absent industrial suppression. It needn't be fatal, though. It will definitely suck, probably for 5-10 years.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 12:13 PM (t0OGg)
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244 Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 12:10 PM (9uNtx)
The chicken they keep fucking is transfer payments, and blaming the retards in charge politically while emotionally gratifying is morally delinquent.
SSI fraud is an indicator that the American public have become a dissipated immoral not amoral group of layabouts who are not enraged like the WW2 Gen would have been that the fuckers are destroying the basis of their familial sovereignty and national power base.
Election 2008 was horrid because you had Shit Nugget McQueeg running as MOAR WARR versus Mocha Jesus denying the stark choice in the vision of America's future.
2012 was the election that broke my heart because the choice economically was pretty stark and Urkle won.
America wants cradle to grave communism.
The chicken they keep fucking is transfer payments, and blaming the retards in charge politically while emotionally gratifying is morally delinquent.
SSI fraud is an indicator that the American public have become a dissipated immoral not amoral group of layabouts who are not enraged like the WW2 Gen would have been that the fuckers are destroying the basis of their familial sovereignty and national power base.
Election 2008 was horrid because you had Shit Nugget McQueeg running as MOAR WARR versus Mocha Jesus denying the stark choice in the vision of America's future.
2012 was the election that broke my heart because the choice economically was pretty stark and Urkle won.
America wants cradle to grave communism.
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 12:14 PM (Lzpvj)
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NOODlum.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 18, 2023 12:18 PM (+sD5M)
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2012 was the election that broke my heart because the choice economically was pretty stark and Urkle won.
America wants cradle to grave communism.
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 12:14 PM (Lzpvj)
True about 2012. But 2016 was lmao great.
Communism (horrible) was at least a grand scale industrial enterprise. Thank god they got duped into building the largest most powerful military the world has ever seen instead of domestic industry.
America wants cradle to grave communism.
Posted by: sven at April 18, 2023 12:14 PM (Lzpvj)
True about 2012. But 2016 was lmao great.
Communism (horrible) was at least a grand scale industrial enterprise. Thank god they got duped into building the largest most powerful military the world has ever seen instead of domestic industry.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 12:20 PM (9uNtx)
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An observation: criticizing a conservative's use of the word woke is, in itself, woke
Posted by: AgathaPagatha at April 18, 2023 12:24 PM (6nERv)
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And the inrush of Eurodollars back into the domestic economy *will* matter, even absent industrial suppression. It needn't be fatal, though. It will definitely suck, probably for 5-10 years.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 12:13 PM (t0OGg)
Possible inrush. Absolutely. But if the "experiments" by BRICS+ become an adjunct to the euro-dollar or global-dollar, then maybe not?
I mean, if these nations want to mostly just stop the Rube Goldberg chasing of USDs to trade why not let them?
Of course, we could just create a lot (!) Of USDs and alter the system to alliw them to circulate.... but some ppl would be less relatively rich....
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 18, 2023 12:13 PM (t0OGg)
Possible inrush. Absolutely. But if the "experiments" by BRICS+ become an adjunct to the euro-dollar or global-dollar, then maybe not?
I mean, if these nations want to mostly just stop the Rube Goldberg chasing of USDs to trade why not let them?
Of course, we could just create a lot (!) Of USDs and alter the system to alliw them to circulate.... but some ppl would be less relatively rich....
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 18, 2023 12:25 PM (9uNtx)
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has repeatedly and flagrantly violated our nation's sovereignty
You know, there's a phrase for that sort of thing. It starts with "act" and ends with "war" with a little two-letter word in the middle. Sure wish we would act like it.
You know, there's a phrase for that sort of thing. It starts with "act" and ends with "war" with a little two-letter word in the middle. Sure wish we would act like it.
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