Kari Lake's Election Fraud Lawsuit Can Go Forward, Says Arizona Supreme Court

Kari Lake's lawsuit against Maricopa County, alleging that the Democrat-run county violated state law for verifying signatures, is allowed to go forward.

Arizona Supreme Court Chief Justice Robert Brutinel wrote that the court would decide whether or not Lake could prove her claim -- that Maricopa County did not comply with Arizona election law regarding ballot tabulation. Lake must also prove that there were enough potentially fraudulent votes to affect the outcome of the election based on a "competent mathematical basis to conclude that the outcome would plausibly have been different, not simply an untethered assertion of uncertainty."
Lake announced in January that she had three whistleblowers who claim 130,000 votes had been rejected because of bogus signatures, but "higher-ups" insisted they be counted.

This judge is guilty of Misinformation in the First Degree -- there is never any justification to accuse Democrats of vote fraud. NEVER.

They have built a House of Cards in Maricopa County.

I’m not just going to knock it over. I’m going to burn it to the ground. 🔥 pic.twitter.com/6gdTEMiUI9
— Kari Lake (@KariLake) March 23, 2023

.@KariLake: "We have 3 whistleblowers in the signature verification department in Maricopa... Who said that they were rejecting tens of thousands of signatures to the tune of up to 130,000 ballots that were being rejected... Somebody above them was sending them on through anyway" pic.twitter.com/cnccVZRtqp
— Kari Lake War Room (@KariLakeWarRoom) January 14, 2023

Posted by: Ace at 01:05 PM

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1 yay!!!

SPONGE

Posted by: SturmToddler at March 24, 2023 01:06 PM (Mkvkw)

2 st

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 24, 2023 01:06 PM (Vwz3I)

3 corgis called

now to content

Posted by: SturmToddler at March 24, 2023 01:06 PM (Mkvkw)

4 not sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 24, 2023 01:07 PM (LvTSG)

5 Who's funding her lawsuits?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 24, 2023 01:07 PM (Q4IgG)

6 "2st" is German for "2nd".

Honest.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 24, 2023 01:07 PM (Vwz3I)

7 I'm hoping for the best.

Honestly, though, I'm not expecting a whole lot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 24, 2023 01:07 PM (LvTSG)

8 i'm behind her all the way....

Posted by: SturmToddler at March 24, 2023 01:07 PM (Mkvkw)

9 "No standing!" - Hawaiian Judge.

Posted by: Thrawn at March 24, 2023 01:08 PM (Rl7KJ)

10 Sponge adjacent.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 24, 2023 01:08 PM (KbCG3)

11 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:08 PM (Zz0t1)

12 Kari you can take 10 lawful steps forward.

Posted by: Mother Mayai at March 24, 2023 01:08 PM (krQz2)

13 I'm hoping for the best.

Honestly, though, I'm not expecting a whole lot.
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If it helps to break people's faith in the deep state's election scam, that may be the best we can hope for.

Posted by: Methos at March 24, 2023 01:08 PM (kOpft)

14 I'm hoping for the best.

Honestly, though, I'm not expecting a whole lot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 24, 2023 01:07 PM (LvTSG)

Same.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 24, 2023 01:08 PM (DRSnL)

15 "NY Democrats propose 4% tax on Netflix, Uber to fund MTA"

Also being considered a tax on package delivery increasing the payroll tax, or taxing business income.

All to avoid an MTA fare increase. Make all the residents pay for their profligacy.

The last person in NY please shut the lights.

https://tinyurl.com/y4vycm4p

Posted by: Veritas at March 24, 2023 01:09 PM (TbpGr)

16 Hope she has good life insurance.

Posted by: NR Pax at March 24, 2023 01:09 PM (4olE8)

17 Garland previously issued ominous warnings about digging deeply into Maricopa County's '20 results. Wonder if the feds will find a way to intervene now?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 24, 2023 01:09 PM (KSNKu)

18 I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tell you, that there was fraud going on in that establishment!

Posted by: Just Lily at March 24, 2023 01:09 PM (fPgVm)

19 The establishment will never allow Lake to become Governor.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 24, 2023 01:09 PM (DMyTF)

20 The progs: "Kari Lake threatened to burn Maricopa County to the ground!!!! Reeeeeeeee!"

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 24, 2023 01:09 PM (iKBwy)

21 This too will fail.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:09 PM (Zz0t1)

22 13 If it helps to break people's faith in the deep state's election scam, that may be the best we can hope for.
Posted by: Methos at March 24, 2023 01:08 PM (kOpft)

=======

"This judgment that supposedly proved election fraud, without evidence, does not mean that any other state has done anything else wrong. Now, let's return to the countdown on the impending arrest of Donald Trump."
-The full extent of ABC News talking about the lawsuit in about a year

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 24, 2023 01:10 PM (LvTSG)

23 I like Governor Kari Lake's style.

burn the roof off the sukka
burn the roof off the sukka
burn tha roof off tha muthasukka

Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2023 01:10 PM (dCxaZ)

24 And she lost by only 17,000 "votes" so this a BFD.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 24, 2023 01:10 PM (Vwz3I)

25 i'm behind her all the way....
Posted by: SturmToddler at March 24, 2023 01:07 PM

J'approuve.

Posted by: Sir Mix A Lot at March 24, 2023 01:10 PM (a3Q+t)

26 Now in Sixth Week, Incommunicado Fetterman to Remain in Psych Ward “At Least Over a Week”: Spox

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 24, 2023 01:10 PM (DMyTF)

27 The story of Kari Lake would make a classic Greek tragedy. I hope she prevails, but Fate seems quite determined.

Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 01:11 PM (MvF+J)

28 Honest.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 24, 2023 01:07 PM (Vwz3I)

oh look at you just flaunting your canucki multilinguality all over the place

Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2023 01:11 PM (dCxaZ)

29 Kari Lake was spotted sitting in a chair last week, therefore she has no standing. So ordered.

Posted by: Judge Sullivan, Man of Integrity and Honor at March 24, 2023 01:11 PM (w+8sA)

30 20 The progs: "Kari Lake threatened to burn Maricopa County to the ground!!!! Reeeeeeeee!"

That’s not a threat, it’s a campaign promise. That I expect her to keep.

Posted by: Ex-GOP at March 24, 2023 01:11 PM (YTBIQ)

31 Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 24, 2023 01:10 PM (DMyTF)

I don't know what's going on over there, but in PA they never hold patients in psych units for over a couple weeks or so.

Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2023 01:12 PM (dCxaZ)

32 One question, what's the youngest age for a child to witness hangings?

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 24, 2023 01:12 PM (hjCSw)

33 29 Kari Lake was spotted sitting in a chair last week, therefore she has no standing. So ordered.
Posted by: Judge Sullivan, Man of Integrity and Honor at March 24, 2023 01:11 PM (w+8sA)

======

"I knew she was evil!"
-DU

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 24, 2023 01:12 PM (LvTSG)

34 130,000 votes? But 65,000 would have voted for hobbes, a d 65,000 for Lake! So no change in the outcome!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 24, 2023 01:12 PM (+68Ze)

35 @15

>>All to avoid an MTA fare increase.

Sure.

Realistically, the way the MTA is run and organized, a single one way fare should cost 10 bucks.

That would also essentially mean virtually no one would be able to afford to ride it.

They've been playing this game for about 40 years now.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 24, 2023 01:12 PM (n/8Ck)

36 The election likely will not be overturned but she will have exposed the massive crimes committed in order to get a Governor Hobbs.
Good. Once you look at the Democrat party not as a political movement but as an organized crime ring, everything starts to make sense.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, passes the gourmet popcorn at March 24, 2023 01:12 PM (jTmQV)

37 With Republican's like Ducey and Brnovich who needs enemies.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 24, 2023 01:13 PM (DMyTF)

38 A Lake/Harris VP debate would be...interesting.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 24, 2023 01:13 PM (sWM8x)

39 The Democrats will just find some Obama appointed Federal Judge to overturn this and the Supremes will just do their usual "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" routine.

The deep state destruction of America must proceed at all costs.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at March 24, 2023 01:13 PM (MFZ8i)

40 Welp, at least someone is actually fighting electoral fraud instead of using it as a device to assuage their egos, satiate their pomposity or embellish their campaign funds.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 24, 2023 01:13 PM (OjHyA)

41 But the old Governor said Hobbs won! Reeeee!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 24, 2023 01:13 PM (+68Ze)

42 At this point it might not be so much about Kari Lake assuming her rightful place as governor as it is about taking down the usurper.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 24, 2023 01:13 PM (YIVH2)

43 This is not who we are. We lose with dignity, not fighting! Tsk tsk.

Posted by: GOPe at March 24, 2023 01:13 PM (57n01)

44 Ben Shapiro and Max Nordau are so mad right now, biting a pillow and trying to make themselves feel better with "well, akshually, 6 of the 7 cases were dismissed"

My understanding is this at the very least sets a better precedent for any future fraud in '24. So they might not try the fake signature thing, they'll just outright place one polling machine at each location to disenfranchise instead of printing ballots incorrectly so they mess with the machines.

Posted by: UwU_Power at March 24, 2023 01:13 PM (xQvsn)

45 Garland previously issued ominous warnings about digging deeply into Maricopa County's '20 results. Wonder if the feds will find a way to intervene now?
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 24, 2023 01:09 PM (KSNKu)

She probably is in greater danger from the cartel than the Feds...although they may still be Fast and Furiousin'.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 24, 2023 01:13 PM (anj39)

46 36 The election likely will not be overturned but she will have exposed the massive crimes committed in order to get a Governor Hobbs.
Good. Once you look at the Democrat party not as a political movement but as an organized crime ring, everything starts to make sense.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, passes the gourmet popcorn at March 24, 2023 01:12 PM (jTmQV)

========

"These were honest mistakes, and we know that our good friends across the aisle will do everything to prevent this from happening again. Any ruling that punishes the Democrat Party or our honest bureaucrats in the AZ State Department is a Nazi war crime."
-AZ GOP

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 24, 2023 01:14 PM (LvTSG)

47 I'm bucking the trend and expressing my optimism because this woman is a fighter.

And fortune favors the BOLD

Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2023 01:14 PM (dCxaZ)

48 Where the GOP at? Apart from sniffing Desantis’ flank they’ve been more silent on this than Trump’s “indictment.”

Posted by: Goucho at March 24, 2023 01:14 PM (9SqHh)

49 Hawaiian Judge has enjoined Maricopa county from proceeding with the trial.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 24, 2023 01:14 PM (+68Ze)

50 "The election likely will not be overturned but she will have exposed the massive crimes committed in order to get a Governor Hobbs."

Did the cartel accusations pan out, or is it still #twoweeks? Haven't been watching.

Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 01:14 PM (MvF+J)

51 ========

"These were honest mistakes, and we know that our good friends across the aisle will do everything to prevent this from happening again. Any ruling that punishes the Democrat Party or our honest bureaucrats in the AZ State Department is a Nazi war crime."
-AZ GOP
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 24, 2023 01:14 PM (LvTSG)

Fact.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:14 PM (Zz0t1)

52 i mean

BOLD

Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2023 01:14 PM (dCxaZ)

53 Maricopa Judge: whelp, let's look at the docket.... ahhhhh, we can get you a trial date in 2029.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 24, 2023 01:14 PM (+68Ze)

54 It all means nothing. Kari can take her case to court but she cannot win. The idea is to keep her busy while they rig the next election.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 24, 2023 01:15 PM (3JfbU)

55 "But in the interest of comity between parties, we acknowledge the cheat. However, we'll do nothing about it, and do nothing about it going forward."

Posted by: Your GOPe at March 24, 2023 01:15 PM (Angsy)

56 Where the GOP at?

adjusting the climate control in their wine cellars and polishing their cufflinks

Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2023 01:15 PM (dCxaZ)

57 Regarding Steve Martin, many of those jokes were on the Wild and Crazy Guy album. I listened to that about 500 times also.

Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at March 24, 2023 01:15 PM (P7Iz+)

58 47 I'm bucking the trend and expressing my optimism because this woman is a fighter.

And fortune favors the BOLD

AGREE kallisto!

and every strike on the Wall of Silence is another blow to breaking thru

our govt is corrupt

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 24, 2023 01:16 PM (w0NJk)

59 They need Arizona for 2024. But I'm sure it's all a big coincidence.

Lest we forget, in Iran everyone knows Ahmadinejad doesn't actually win 100% to 0, with all votes cast by every possible living voting adult.

It's part of the kink.

Posted by: ... at March 24, 2023 01:16 PM (w+8sA)

60 The fraud there was so absurdly over the top it was almost as bad as the presidential election in 2020. That's why I was so annoyed at dimwitted voices here saying it was because of overturning Roe v Wade, and she was too extreme and so on. Really? *shaking head*

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 24, 2023 01:16 PM (0hOvj)

61 Anyone who thinks the election will be overturned is smoking sherm.

This is for entertainment and grifting purposes.

And maybe the appearance of judicial consideration.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at March 24, 2023 01:16 PM (Gyd4a)

62 Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 24, 2023 01:15 PM (3JfbU)

aren't they already at the part where they are assessing the evidence, i.e. fraudulent ballots?

Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2023 01:17 PM (dCxaZ)

63 @54

>>It all means nothing. Kari can take her case to court but she cannot win. The idea is to keep her busy while they rig the next election.

Well, there is only so much one person or a few people could do, but the organized action of a political party could do much.

Which is why the National GOP is nowhere to be found.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 24, 2023 01:17 PM (n/8Ck)

64 looks like a certain someone is vying to be Trump's running mate

Now that NoRon has turn down the position

Posted by: REDACTED at March 24, 2023 01:17 PM (us2H3)

65 Each contested signature must be brought forward as an isolated charge, and must be considered individually whether it could have affected the outcome of the entire election.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 24, 2023 01:17 PM (aylmF)

66 The ~~establishment~~ Sinaloa Cartel will never allow Lake to become Governor.

FIFY

Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2023 01:17 PM (xhaym)

67 One question, what's the youngest age for a child to witness hangings?
Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 24, 2023

***
The record youngest child, or do you mean "At what age should I allow my child to witness a hanging?"

Well, Mattie Ross was 14, and she certainly had no sleepless nights after witnessing the hangings in Fort Smith early in True Grit.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 24, 2023 01:17 PM (J2vNu)

68 The fraud there was so absurdly over the top it was almost as bad as the presidential election in 2020. That's why I was so annoyed at dimwitted voices here saying it was because of overturning Roe v Wade, and she was too extreme and so on. Really? *shaking head*
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 24, 2023 01:16 PM (0hOvj)

I remember people in this very blog saying that the off term elections were too hard to cheat like 2020 because of local elections and ballot measures were involved.

Seems they underestimated our opponents. Again.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:17 PM (Zz0t1)

69 >>Where the GOP at?

Besides McCarthy getting a handsy from MTG in the coat closet? They're doing the usual, plotting to bend us over.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 24, 2023 01:18 PM (DMyTF)

70 54 It all means nothing. Kari can take her case to court but she cannot win. The idea is to keep her busy while they rig the next election.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 24, 2023 01:15 PM (3JfbU)

^I will be heart-broken if we lose this case. My optimism keeps reviving because it would be a factual data point to shore up allegations of Democrat fraud.

Posted by: Iris at March 24, 2023 01:18 PM (foa6+)

71 The establishment Sinaloa Cartel will never allow Lake to become Governor.

FIFY
Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2023 01:17 PM (xhaym)

Seems funny how THAT story has dropped from the headlines as well.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:18 PM (Zz0t1)

72 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 24, 2023 01:17 PM (J2vNu)

Check your in box.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 24, 2023 01:19 PM (Angsy)

73 Holding out my thoughts until I hear what Trump and Desantis have to say. I will then view everything through that prism.

It's the only right thing to do.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 24, 2023 01:19 PM (KbCG3)

74 Democrats openly admit that their motto is "by any means necessary".
Lie, cheat, steal, perjure, whatever it takes. Even murder. It's all OK by them. They don't even try to hide it.
Examples abound.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, passes the gourmet popcorn at March 24, 2023 01:19 PM (jTmQV)

75 The GOP operates solely in the political realm. And only when there's no opposition. They will not provide any sort of support, even vocal support to Lake because of the massive opposition to her from the left.

Lake is on her own. The Republican establishment won't be of any help here.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 24, 2023 01:19 PM (Q4IgG)

76 With Republican's like Ducey and Brnovich who needs enemies.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 24, 2023 01:13 PM (DMyTF)

-------------------

They knew and did nothing because they agree with Dems or more accurately they are Dems under an assumed name.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 24, 2023 01:19 PM (3JfbU)

77 I remember people in this very blog saying that the off term elections were too hard to cheat like 2020 because of local elections and ballot measures were involved.

Seems they underestimated our opponents. Again.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:17 PM (Zz0t1)

It's the same people working both elections.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 24, 2023 01:19 PM (UuD2k)

78 The election likely will not be overturned but she will have exposed the massive crimes committed in order to get a Governor Hobbs.
Good. Once you look at the Democrat party not as a political movement but as an organized crime ring, everything starts to make sense.

Posted by: gourmand du jour

If she is able to prove that vote fraud, even in the counting, occurred, and that Hobbs was in charge and the beneficiary, I don't see how Hobbs can remain in office.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 24, 2023 01:19 PM (lTGtQ)

79 One question, what's the youngest age for a child to witness hangings?
Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 24, 2023

"23. But if they want to surgically destroy their genitals, 5."

- - - The Left

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:20 PM (Zz0t1)

80 "Seems funny how THAT story has dropped from the headlines as well."

You noticed that too.

Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 01:20 PM (MvF+J)

81 and every strike on the Wall of Silence is another blow to breaking thru

*fistbump*

Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2023 01:20 PM (dCxaZ)

82 Personally, I like this gal. She fights.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 24, 2023 01:20 PM (Xrfse)

83 Maricopa county chairman Bill Gates still works for Ping golf right?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 24, 2023 01:20 PM (DMyTF)

84 If she had been a Quality Candidate it could have never been stolen in the first place.

Posted by: ... at March 24, 2023 01:20 PM (w+8sA)

85 The standard stated by that AZ judge actually, I think, is much higher or at least more specific than the one used in federal courts to void elections and order re-runs (yes, this happens). Though it's similar - that identified irregularities render the official results questionable.

The combo of (comically obvious) election infrastructure "malfunction" in Lake-ish precincts of Maricopa*, and now a tabulation issue - nice! Most obvious cases in 2020 only had one of these stand-by fraud activities, not both.

Clark County NV. AFAIK, a preposterous and obviously illegal signature-verification scandal that makes Cook County elections look like those in Oslo. Crickets.

* maybe someone can find an example of a judge *not* granting extension of polling hours in the case of such a situation (or even just long lines, as has happened dozens of times in big Dem cities in my lifetime) - I'm not aware of one. Beautiful, really!

Posted by: rhomboid at March 24, 2023 01:21 PM (OTzUX)

86 I think I see the root of the problem...

Greg Price @greg_price11
Poilievre: "Pierre Poilievre, leader of His Majesty's Loyal Opposition"

Biden: "Loyal opposition?"

Poilievre: "We believe that opposition is an act of loyalty in our system."

Biden: "We do too unfortunately"

https://tinyurl.com/m5c68ktk

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 24, 2023 01:21 PM (Vwz3I)

87
It's the same people working both elections.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 24, 2023 01:19 PM (UuD2k)

Right. I was shocked and amazed they didn't think it would happen again.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:21 PM (Zz0t1)

88 If she is able to prove that vote fraud, even in the counting, occurred, and that Hobbs was in charge and the beneficiary, I don't see how Hobbs can remain in office.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 24, 2023 01:19 PM (lTGtQ)

Why would she voluntarily leave? The GOPe will do nothing, even if she was caught on video doing it or approving it.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 24, 2023 01:21 PM (Angsy)

89 John Fetterman expected to return to Senate "soon," but no timeline yet

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 24, 2023 01:21 PM (UuD2k)

90 84 If she had been a Quality Candidate it could have never been stolen in the first place.
Posted by: ... at March 24, 2023 01:20 PM (w+8sA)

======

If only she were as strong a candidate as John Fetterman.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 24, 2023 01:21 PM (LvTSG)

91 89 John Fetterman expected to return to Senate "soon," but no timeline yet

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 24, 2023 01:21 PM (UuD2k)

#twoweeks

Posted by: IC - #FJB #MitchTheBitch at March 24, 2023 01:21 PM (mnUzy)

92 If the election does get overturned (work with me here), is there anyway to give her the FULL term?

I'm just going to fantasize that Hobbs and her minions will go to jail.

And I want a pony for TJM. So there!

Posted by: Iris at March 24, 2023 01:22 PM (foa6+)

93 The Republicans cannot win by going to the courts. Either learn to harvest ballots chucked out into the ether and cheat your ass off or get used to losing.

The Supreme Court has ruled that all is fair in love, war, and elections. Learn to play the game or get used to losing.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at March 24, 2023 01:22 PM (MFZ8i)

94 Wouldn't that be wild to overturn an election?

Where do I donate to the effort???

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 24, 2023 01:22 PM (w/RvR)

95 Poilievre: "We believe that opposition is an act of loyalty in our system."

Biden: "We do too unfortunately"

https://tinyurl.com/m5c68ktk
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 24, 2023 01:21 PM (Vwz3I)

Common theme.

"I don't like The Constitution because it tells government what it can't do."

-- - - - Barack Hussein Owebama

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:22 PM (Zz0t1)

96 89 John Fetterman expected to return to Senate "soon," but no timeline yet

"two weeks" right?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 24, 2023 01:22 PM (w0NJk)

97 @68

>>I remember people in this very blog saying that the off term elections were too hard to cheat like 2020 because of local elections and ballot measures were involved. Seems they underestimated our opponents. Again.

To believe the Arizona election was on the level, you would have to believe Arizona voters, voted to elect Democrats to all statewide positions, raise taxes on themselves, decrease election security, give in-state tuition to illegal immigrants and elected a governor who didn't campaign and literally ran away from reporters and locked herself in a bathroom.

I mean, I guess it's within the realm of possibility but I doubt, in fact I think most elections in most alleged Donk areas, are rigged and have been rigged for generations.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 24, 2023 01:22 PM (n/8Ck)

98
It doesn't matter who votes, it's who counts the votes.

Posted by: Joe's Stallin' at March 24, 2023 01:22 PM (WmGrA)

99 If she is able to prove that vote fraud, even in the counting, occurred, and that Hobbs was in charge and the beneficiary, I don't see how Hobbs can remain in office.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 24, 2023 01:19 PM (lTGtQ)

that's because you're reasonable and reasonably intelligent. to those with nothing but a lust for power, it doesn't matter....

Posted by: SturmToddler at March 24, 2023 01:23 PM (Mkvkw)

100 Where do I donate to the effort???

I imagine the Kari Lake War Room could point you in the right direction

Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2023 01:23 PM (dCxaZ)

101 Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 24, 2023 01:15 PM (3JfbU)

aren't they already at the part where they are assessing the evidence, i.e. fraudulent ballots?
Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2023 01:17 PM (dCxaZ)

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If the election cannot be overturned then what is the point? The steal stays in place and they simply change tactics for next time.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 24, 2023 01:23 PM (3JfbU)

102 Seems funny how THAT story has dropped from the headlines as well.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:18 PM (Zz0t1)

A lot of investment by Black Rock in the housing market, maybe?

Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2023 01:23 PM (xhaym)

103 John Fetterman expected to return to Senate "soon," but no timeline yet

"two weeks" right?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 24, 2023 01:22 PM (w0NJk)

They're still working on the droid to be less human and more Fetterman.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:23 PM (Zz0t1)

104 I remember people in this very blog saying that the off term elections were too hard to cheat like 2020 because of local elections and ballot measures were involved.

Right, I remember saying clearly that they didn't have to win every race, just specific targeted ones. Which is what they did.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 24, 2023 01:23 PM (0hOvj)

105 Because I got out of the election prediction game, I posted exactly *one* thing here on election day last year and it was a rundown of the 5 most corrupt cheating states of the ones that matter.

I don't think we won in a one of them. I'm not counting Kemp because he is clearly owned.

Posted by: ... at March 24, 2023 01:23 PM (w+8sA)

106 Sorry, I meant, "a lot of investment by Black Rock in media companies?" Since they are a major real estate investor

Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2023 01:24 PM (xhaym)

107 If good evidence emerges that USA pols, judges, and LEs are being successfully extorted by violent threats by cartels (same way cartels control Mexico govt,) that would be a big story. "Do what we tell you, or we'll kill everybody you love, then you" can be persuasive.

Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 01:24 PM (MvF+J)

108 I still wonder how a sitting Sec'y of State can be allowed on the ballot as a gubernatorial candidate...

Posted by: Muldoon at March 24, 2023 01:24 PM (ykeLU)

109 Where do I donate to the effort???

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 24, 2023 01:22 PM (w/RvR)

SaveArizonaFund.com

Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2023 01:24 PM (dCxaZ)

110 They're still working on the droid to be less human and more Fetterman.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:23 PM (Zz0t1)

Nah, the good doctor is waiting on a lightning storm

Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2023 01:24 PM (xhaym)

111 In the article JJ posted this morning, the author said Kari Lake wouldn't become governor because Hobbs had held the seat for 3 months.

Posted by: Ilene Wright at March 24, 2023 01:25 PM (VD8D9)

112 looks like a certain someone is vying to be Trump's running mate

Now that NoRon has turn down the position
Posted by: REDACTED at March 24, 2023 01:17 PM (us2H3)

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Kari would be a perfect foil for the stupid Kamala.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 24, 2023 01:25 PM (3JfbU)

113 "...I don't see how Hobbs can remain in office."
I felt the same about Biden.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, passes the gourmet popcorn at March 24, 2023 01:25 PM (jTmQV)

114 This is all nothing but masturbation. At least with some kinds of masturbation, there's a payoff at the end. Not so here.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 24, 2023 01:25 PM (iFTx/)

115 122~!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 24, 2023 01:26 PM (jzzG8)

116 "...I don't see how Hobbs can remain in office."
I felt the same about Biden.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, passes the gourmet popcorn at March 24, 2023 01:25 PM (jTmQV)
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That's right! These four walls CAN'T HOLD ME, JACK!

Posted by: President Charlie Foxtrot at March 24, 2023 01:26 PM (krQz2)

117 Lake and the RNC were supposed to have teams of lawyers in the Maricopa election offices documenting and pursuing irregularities.
Lawyers 1. Lake 0.
Loser.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 24, 2023 01:26 PM (DMyTF)

118 If the election cannot be overturned then what is the point?

That is a question better directed to Kari Lake and her posse. I think she is in a much better position to justify the extraordinary measures she is taking to rectify and correct the tabulation of the votes.

I would not be surprised if she and her team have more legal tricks up their sleeves.

Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2023 01:26 PM (dCxaZ)

119 Sadly, Maricopa County is still mostly run by RINOs and McCain acolytes, rather than outright Dems.

But as Ace might say, I repeat myself.

At this point, the county should be turned over to the Dems, so the McCain cultists can also get in on the "good and hard" train. I sure as hell won't be voting for any incumbent Republicans for county offices next year. If they survive the primary, I'll vote for the Dem.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 24, 2023 01:26 PM (TNyrE)

120 Kari Lake is pretty sassy in those clips.

This is gearing up to be, like, a remake of The Gauntlet.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 24, 2023 01:27 PM (Jg7EG)

121 Why would she voluntarily leave? The GOPe will do nothing, even if she was caught on video doing it or approving it.

She was on video walking around the area where votes were being counted.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 24, 2023 01:27 PM (Bd6X8)

122 If the election cannot be overturned then what is the point? The steal stays in place and they simply change tactics for next time.

Eeyores say what?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 24, 2023 01:27 PM (eOEVl)

123 This is all nothing but masturbation. At least with some kinds of masturbation, there's a payoff at the end. Not so here.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 24, 2023 01:25 PM (iFTx/)

The Devil in Miss Jones Syndrome.

You can have all the sex you want, you just can't orgasm.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:27 PM (Zz0t1)

124 While I am glad there is recognition, I am fairly certain that there will be no repercussions.
Another #twoweeks disappointment in three weeks.

Posted by: SATANS REEEEETARDS at March 24, 2023 01:27 PM (o+Kq8)

125 In the article JJ posted this morning, the author said Kari Lake wouldn't become governor because Hobbs had held the seat for 3 months.
Posted by: Ilene Wright

Ah, the old Cheat and Squat. Squatters rights in elections.

Posted by: Joe's Stallin' at March 24, 2023 01:28 PM (WmGrA)

126 John Fetterman expected to return to Senate "soon," but no timeline yet

"two weeks" right?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 24, 2023 01:22 PM (w0NJk)
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Just briefly, before his next hospitalization.

Posted by: Axeman at March 24, 2023 01:28 PM (krQz2)

127 123 This is all nothing but masturbation. At least with some kinds of masturbation, there's a payoff at the end. Not so here.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 24, 2023 01:25 PM (iFTx/)
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Milky Loads says yes.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 24, 2023 01:28 PM (3FiQa)

128 Republican Primaries have been rigged too, for decades. Which is why "Republicans" are mostly schtum about fraud.

Posted by: ... at March 24, 2023 01:28 PM (w+8sA)

129
She was on video walking around the area where votes were being counted.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 24, 2023 01:27 PM (Bd6X8

She was in charge of the election. It was her job.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:28 PM (Zz0t1)

130 The Devil in Miss Jones Syndrome

There was a plot?

Posted by: Bosk at March 24, 2023 01:28 PM (ZVuYy)

131
When will these R dunces learn?
Stop putting all your cards on the table.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at March 24, 2023 01:28 PM (QI+/m)

132 In the article JJ posted this morning, the author said Kari Lake wouldn't become governor because Hobbs had held the seat for 3 months.
Posted by: Ilene Wright
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*ponders the subject of Kari Lake and "holding seats"....*

Posted by: Axeman at March 24, 2023 01:29 PM (krQz2)

133 And once again, the very same people who decry the lack of effort by GOPe types to clean up elections, are decrying the effort by Lake to clean up elections.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 24, 2023 01:29 PM (eOEVl)

134 If the election cannot be overturned then what is the point? The steal stays in place and they simply change tactics for next time.
Posted by: President Select Decaf

How about the truth?

How about we insist that elections are based on truth? It's a small measure for something that is supposed to be the basis for a Republic.

How about we put liars to the fucking test?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 24, 2023 01:29 PM (jzzG8)

135 Here, let me write the trial judge's sui sponte dismissal order:
Motion to dismiss is granted.

There is just no way the judge is going to allow any evidence that invalid votes-- in heavily Democrat precincts-- were counted.

He'll write how the SOS certified it, it's too late now, besides there's no proof those would not have been valid anyway, and no matter what there is no proof they were votes for the Democrat, and that all doesn't matter because there's no proof it could have changed the outcome so we don't need to look at any evidence or hear any testimony.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 24, 2023 01:29 PM (/LGx4)

136 If only one party was benefiting from cheating then at LEAST one of the parties would never shut up about it.

But Republicans are just doing business as usual. Not raising hell. Not even really raising an eyebrow. Just gettin to the Debt Ceiling Fight and the Hearings and Committees and the fundraising.

Posted by: ... at March 24, 2023 01:29 PM (w+8sA)

137

Now, there's this about cynicism, Sergeant. It's the universe's most supine moral position. Real comfortable. If nothing can be done, then you're not some kind of shit for not doing it, and you can lie there and stink to yourself in perfect peace.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2023 01:30 PM (xhaym)

138 If good evidence emerges that USA pols, judges, and LEs are being successfully extorted by violent threats by cartels (same way cartels control Mexico govt,) that would be a big story. "Do what we tell you, or we'll kill everybody you love, then you" can be persuasive.
Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 01:24 PM (MvF+J)

While that's worked well for the cartels this far, they should ask an Indian about how hard America can retaliate.

If they can find any.

Posted by: trev006 at March 24, 2023 01:30 PM (DTm0P)

139
There was a plot?
Posted by: Bosk at March 24, 2023 01:28 PM (ZVuYy)

Back when they tried, yes.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:30 PM (Zz0t1)

140 You said masturbation twice.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 24, 2023 01:30 PM (UuD2k)

141 How about we put liars to the fucking test?
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Sword > test.

Posted by: Joe's Stallin' at March 24, 2023 01:30 PM (WmGrA)

142 The Republicans cannot win by going to the courts. Either learn to harvest ballots chucked out into the ether and cheat your ass off or get used to losing.

The Supreme Court has ruled that all is fair in love, war, and elections. Learn to play the game or get used to losing.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at March 24, 2023 01:22 PM (MFZ8i)

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There are no other options, just do it better than they do.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 24, 2023 01:31 PM (3JfbU)

143 If good evidence emerges that USA pols, judges, and LEs are being successfully extorted by violent threats by cartels (same way cartels control Mexico govt,) that would be a big story. "Do what we tell you, or we'll kill everybody you love, then you" can be persuasive.
Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 01:24 PM (MvF+J)
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I'm a little more concerned that USA pols, judges, and LEs are being successfully extorted by violent threats from our own government.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 24, 2023 01:31 PM (YIVH2)

144 This is not a good election campaign message strategy: "Our elections are hopelessly corrupt. I can prove it! Vote for me and I guarantee I'll lose. You'll see."

It's true, but there has to be a better way to finesse it.

Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 01:31 PM (MvF+J)

145 You said masturbation twice.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 24, 2023 01:30 PM (UuD2k)

Repeating yourself REALLY helps to get your point across.

Posted by: Kumswala Harris at March 24, 2023 01:32 PM (Zz0t1)

146 Is King Harve gonna bomb us with coffee?

I’d be OK with that.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 24, 2023 01:32 PM (sjxgf)

147 I'm a little more concerned that USA pols, judges, and LEs are being successfully extorted by violent threats from our own government.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

"Our" own government?

:-/

Posted by: Joe's Stallin' at March 24, 2023 01:33 PM (WmGrA)

148 There are no other options, just do it better than they do.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 24, 2023 01:31 PM (3JfbU)

This is a prime strategy if you want the system to disintegrate under increasing levels of retaliation.

My boy! I didn't realize you were a National Divorce advocate!

Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2023 01:33 PM (xhaym)

149 I remember people in this very blog saying that the off term elections were too hard to cheat like 2020 because of local elections and ballot measures were involved.

Seems they underestimated our opponents. Again.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:17 PM (Zz0t1)

Underestimating the enemy is the surest way to defeat.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 24, 2023 01:33 PM (BdMk6)

150 At least Kati Lake fights! Where is the RNC!?
Trump fighting every day since 2015… Trump is icky and says mean things! I am so tired of his drama.

Stick with the fighters and pray for them.

Posted by: Ann at March 24, 2023 01:33 PM (ilNea)

151 >>>The Devil in Miss Jones Syndrome.

You can have all the sex you want, you just can't orgasm.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

>Do you even lift, bro? Sometimes you just got to do it for the pump, even if you're not into her.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 24, 2023 01:33 PM (Jg7EG)

152 As I recall there were interesting maps in the SecState's (Hobbs) or Maricopa registrar's offices interestingly marked with the GOP-majority precincts highlighted. Never did see any explanation for that. But it was intriguing.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 24, 2023 01:34 PM (OTzUX)

153 137

Now, there's this about cynicism, Sergeant. It's the universe's most supine moral position. Real comfortable. If nothing can be done, then you're not some kind of shit for not doing it, and you can lie there and stink to yourself in perfect peace.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2023 01:30 PM (xhaym)

That seems to misunderstand the meaning of the word cynicism. Cynicism doesn't have anything to do with a belief that nothing can be done.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 24, 2023 01:34 PM (eYoxG)

154 I remember people in this very blog saying that the off term elections were too hard to cheat like 2020 because of local elections and ballot measures were involved.

two statewide GOP candidates won office in 2020, the very election that the PA election was "fortified" against Trump

Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2023 01:34 PM (dCxaZ)

155 This judge is guilty of Misinformation in the First Degree -- there is never any justification to accuse Democrats of vote fraud. NEVER.
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Misinformation: Things that are wrong
Disinformation: Things that are lies
Malinformation: Things that are true but unpleasant for the ruling system

This is a case of Malinformation. Elections are hinkey throughout the land but very specifically obviously fraudulent in various jurisdictions but that fraud helps the ruling system so pointing out is bad.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 24, 2023 01:34 PM (t0OGg)

156 I'm a little more concerned that USA pols, judges, and LEs are being successfully extorted by violent threats from our own government.

Which in turn is just a cutout for a larger, more nefarious entity.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 24, 2023 01:34 PM (Xrfse)

157 The perversity of "you have to cheat to win" elections, is that the transformation of the country to a poor version of the old Saturday morning wrestling shows is complete.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 24, 2023 01:35 PM (oWBc3)

158
Underestimating the enemy is the surest way to defeat.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 24, 2023 01:33 PM (BdMk6)

It's like earlier where someone said the EPA doesn't have the power to deter or eliminate fuel production.

Yeah, you just keep thinking that.

They put CO2 on the pollution list. You are guilty of pollution by merely existing. Don't tempt them. They WILL prove you wrong.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:35 PM (Zz0t1)

159 I've read this story. I know how it is ends.

Posted by: Turn two at March 24, 2023 01:35 PM (JfxgE)

160 They have built a House of Cards in Maricopa County.

I'm not just going to knock it over. I'm going to burn it to the ground.
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While I very much doubt this, I hope that she does it.

Burn it down to the waterline, Kari, if you can.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 24, 2023 01:35 PM (t0OGg)

161 At least Kati Lake fights! Where is the RNC!?
Trump fighting every day since 2015… Trump is icky and says mean things! I am so tired of his drama.

Stick with the fighters and pray for them.

You mean the Donald Trump who endorsed Ronna McDaniel, Kevin McCarthy, and Mitch McConnell? That fighter?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 24, 2023 01:35 PM (eOEVl)

162 The perversity of "you have to cheat to win" elections, is that the transformation of the country to a poor version of the old Saturday morning wrestling shows is complete.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 24, 2023 01:35 PM (oWBc3)

"If you can't beat em, join em."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:36 PM (Zz0t1)

163 Is King Harve gonna bomb us with coffee?

I’d be OK with that.

Same here. I'm runnin' low.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 24, 2023 01:37 PM (Xrfse)

164 What were elected R's and the conservative political commentating class saying the day after the obviously rigged midterms?

"Quality Candidates"

As if they never ever saw Lake speak.

Rat bastards.

Posted by: ... at March 24, 2023 01:37 PM (w+8sA)

165 Yahoo News reports a suspected Iranian drone has killed an American contractor and wounded five troops in Syria.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 24, 2023 01:37 PM (DsBY7)

166 We have 3 whistleblowers in the signature verification department in Maricopa... Who said that they were rejecting tens of thousands of signatures to the tune of up to 130,000 ballots that were being rejected... Somebody above them was sending them on through anyway"
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And this is the problem that will not be solved by any action being taken now.

Assume the best-possible outcome for this case. That Maricopa is found to have engaged in massive fraud, that those 130k ballots (or more) were falsified and cannot be cured, that those 130k ballots went in vast majority to Hobbes, that Hobbes stole the election and is an illegitimate governor, that the corrupted election is overturned by the courts and then Lake is installed instead or there is a new election run.

Even if all that happens, those "sombodies above them" that "sent them on through" will not be prosecuted or punished. They will remain in place, primed and ready to steal the next one.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 24, 2023 01:37 PM (t0OGg)

167 If the election cannot be overturned then what is the point? The steal stays in place and they simply change tactics for next time.
Posted by: President Select Decaf

How about the truth?

How about we insist that elections are based on truth? It's a small measure for something that is supposed to be the basis for a Republic.

How about we put liars to the fucking test?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 24, 2023 01:29 PM (jzzG

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How about we put liars and cheats in jail and not leave them in their positions? We do it with car thieves and bank embezzlers so why not fraudulent politicians?

Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 24, 2023 01:37 PM (3JfbU)

168 Arizona Supreme Court Chief Justice Robert Brutinel will have to be dealt with. Mostly peacefully, of course.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 24, 2023 01:38 PM (TgBWG)

169 Yahoo News reports a suspected Iranian drone has killed an American contractor and wounded five troops in Syria.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 24, 2023 01:37 PM (DsBY7)

For which we retaliated and struck their base to which they retaliated and rained missiles on an American base.

But we're not at war.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:38 PM (Zz0t1)

170 The perversity of "you have to cheat to win" elections, is that the transformation of the country to a poor version of the old Saturday morning wrestling shows is complete.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 24, 2023 01:35 PM (oWBc3)
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Yup. And in *any* cheat-by-mail state, cheating is the only path to victory.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 24, 2023 01:38 PM (t0OGg)

171 146 Is King Harve gonna bomb us with coffee?

I’d be OK with that.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 24, 2023 01:32 PM (sjxgf)

I like King Harv. I just can't afford his coffee.

Posted by: Emmie will be dancing to Flash Cadillac April 1 at March 24, 2023 01:39 PM (Emce2)

172 Hey, everthing is on the up and up! If you even ask questions you are a domestic terrorist.

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary, winner of 50 consecutive coin flips at March 24, 2023 01:39 PM (fs1hN)

173 If the election cannot be overturned then what is the point? The steal stays in place and they simply change tactics for next time.

There is a very slim chance that the Arizona legislation does something if its proven fraud. There is a very slim chance that the publicity and results of the trial might move public understanding and cultural pressure against fraud. There is a very slim chance that the courts then rule that the election was false.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 24, 2023 01:39 PM (0hOvj)

174 Won't matter.

Election fraud is fine, so long as the Dems are doing it.

The judge will find EVERY reason to say the election was perfect.

We don't live in a nation of laws anymore.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 24, 2023 01:39 PM (JMAcK)

175 135 Here, let me write the trial judge's sui sponte dismissal order:
Motion to dismiss is granted.

There is just no way the judge is going to allow any evidence that invalid votes-- in heavily Democrat precincts-- were counted.

He'll write how the SOS certified it, it's too late now, besides there's no proof those would not have been valid anyway, and no matter what there is no proof they were votes for the Democrat, and that all doesn't matter because there's no proof it could have changed the outcome so we don't need to look at any evidence or hear any testimony.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 24, 2023 01:29 PM (/LGx4)

He will also write (in legalese): In my opinion, laws were broken. However, I cannot charge anyone with violating laws. That is a job for the appropriate county and state officials. My conclusion is: This episode is a crying shame, but there is no crying in my Court. Take a hike, Kari.

Posted by: Gref at March 24, 2023 01:39 PM (AMIL/)

176 That seems to misunderstand the meaning of the word cynicism. Cynicism doesn't have anything to do with a belief that nothing can be done.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 24, 2023 01:34 PM (eYoxG)

Unless you are a Grecian it works both in technical definition and colloquial.

In fact it fits in this sentence too: "I believe your attempt to derail a discussion on the merits of resistance by nit picking over language use to be a cynical attempt to deflect criticism of a moral or political stance"

Since I am now starting to wander myself into the area of trying to tell or shame people into living their lives the way I think is important, and to try to yet again win the Internet, I am off for the rest of the day. Also my sister wants help planting potatoes.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2023 01:39 PM (xhaym)

177 She was in charge of the election. It was her job.

Oh, so that's the one part of her job that she did correctly.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 24, 2023 01:39 PM (Bd6X8)

178 We've been at war with Iran since 1979.

Thanks Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 24, 2023 01:39 PM (DsBY7)

179 How about we put liars and cheats in jail and not leave them in their positions? We do it with car thieves and bank embezzlers so why not fraudulent politicians?
Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 24, 2023 01:37 PM (3JfbU)
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Car theft is legal in every blue city.

Bank fraud and embezzlement has been legal since at least 2001.

But I do agree with your point - these people *should* be prosecuted and jailed. They just won't be. Street crime is legal for the connected-adjacent, but that is just an extension of the prior system where *all* crime is legal for the connected.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 24, 2023 01:39 PM (t0OGg)

180 Yahoo News reports a suspected Iranian drone has killed an American contractor and wounded five troops in Syria.

Gee, I wonder where they go that drone from?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 24, 2023 01:39 PM (Xrfse)

181 The Republicans cannot win by going to the courts. Either learn to harvest ballots chucked out into the ether and cheat your ass off or get used to losing.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe

I'm not buying that. Arizona courts have overturned elections in the past, and if courts in general don't prosecute fraud, then the entire system will crash. A majority of people in this country believe elections are fraudulent, and a majority of people in this country believe the 2020 election was fraudulent. If they abdicate responsibility, then we don't have a republic.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 24, 2023 01:40 PM (lTGtQ)

182 got

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 24, 2023 01:40 PM (Xrfse)

183 Yahoo News reports a suspected Iranian drone has killed an American contractor and wounded five troops in Syria.
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Old news; the U.S. has already retaliated.

@TheInsiderPaper · 5h
NEW - 11 pro-Iran fighters killed in US air strikes on Syria carried out in retaliation for a drone attack that left an American dead and wounded six others

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 24, 2023 01:40 PM (Vwz3I)

184 Felons will now have to work way harder to get their votes restored in VA - another win for Rs here...

They will have to apply, and have their application investigated and approved.

tinyurl.com/jcvhv97x

Posted by: Nova Local at March 24, 2023 01:40 PM (exHjb)

185 How much does a cynical Grecian urn?

Posted by: High hanging curveball at March 24, 2023 01:40 PM (B0ahs)

186
Oh, so that's the one part of her job that she did correctly.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 24, 2023 01:39 PM (Bd6X8

She oversaw the fraud and made sure they were doing it correctly so she could certify her win.

All perfectly legal.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:41 PM (Zz0t1)

187 He'll write how the SOS certified it, it's too late now, besides there's no proof those would not have been valid anyway, and no matter what there is no proof they were votes for the Democrat, and that all doesn't matter because there's no proof it could have changed the outcome so we don't need to look at any evidence or hear any testimony.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 24, 2023 01:29 PM (/LGx4)
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Strikes me as entirely possible.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 24, 2023 01:41 PM (t0OGg)

188 "Quality Candidates"

As if they never ever saw Lake speak.

I was just thinking that while watching the second clip. She spoke extemporaneously for almost two minutes, with nary an "um", "they is", or other problem. She is light years ahead of the average pol, and I include DeSantis in that category. He should hire her as his speech coach.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 24, 2023 01:41 PM (eOEVl)

189 20 drachma same as in the Agora.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 24, 2023 01:41 PM (DsBY7)

190 From what I read, the election fraudsters have been largely unpunished, except for some low level types in TX.
Note to law enforcement: You don't have to catch all of them. Not every one. Just catch some and make an example of them. Come down on them like a ton of bricks. Publicize the heck out of it. The rest fall in line, and become law abiding.
This model has worked for the IRS for decades.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, passes the gourmet popcorn at March 24, 2023 01:41 PM (jTmQV)

191 Rat bastards.

Posted by: ... at March 24, 2023 01:37 PM (w+8sA)

there's a local radio yakker who for YEARS kept talking about how he doesn't blame the demorats for current state of affairs, but the GOP apparatchiks. Now I finally get why that is his mantra.

Posted by: kallisto at March 24, 2023 01:41 PM (dCxaZ)

192 No offence meant by using "Old news", Anna.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 24, 2023 01:42 PM (Vwz3I)

193 How about we put liars and cheats in jail and not leave them in their positions? We do it with car thieves and bank embezzlers so why not fraudulent politicians?
Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 24, 2023 01:37 PM (3JfbU)

NY, CA, and IL say differently.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 24, 2023 01:42 PM (BdMk6)

194 Which is why the National GOP is nowhere to be found.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 24, 2023 01:17 PM (n/8Ck)

Hey now! Grifting and Grafting is a full-time 24/7/365 day job. None of this legislating crap makes any difference anyways proles! We still get paid.

Posted by: GOPe at March 24, 2023 01:42 PM (57n01)

195 #192 ... if that sounded sarcastic.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 24, 2023 01:42 PM (Vwz3I)

196
Gee, I wonder where they go that drone from?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 24, 2023 01:39 PM (Xrfse)

"Come on down to Taliban Joe's US Weapons Emporium where we have only the FINEST American Weaponry available on the market today."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:42 PM (Zz0t1)

197 There is a very slim chance that the Arizona legislation does something if its proven fraud. There is a very slim chance that the publicity and results of the trial might move public understanding and cultural pressure against fraud. There is a very slim chance that the courts then rule that the election was false.

And if she weren't doing this, there would be ZERO chance. And yet, people complain.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 24, 2023 01:43 PM (eOEVl)

198 176

Unless you are a Grecian it works both in technical definition and colloquial.

In fact it fits in this sentence too: "I believe your attempt to derail a discussion on the merits of resistance by nit picking over language use to be a cynical attempt to deflect criticism of a moral or political stance"

Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2023 01:39 PM (xhaym)

Ignoring the question of Greek philosophy, cynicism generally involves the assertion of malfeasance or bad actors, or the expectation of that. It does not say nothing can be done about a problem, it asserts its existence, which may be true or not in any given instance. Arguably identifying a problem in the first place is pro-action, as opposed to the opposite approach of assuming someone else will address a problem or asserting the problem doesn't exist.

A cynic may be said to have a general mistrust or suspicion of others, but what does that have to do with inaction?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 24, 2023 01:43 PM (eYoxG)

199 I just heard someone say that we're entering political Flip Flop season. LOL

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 24, 2023 01:43 PM (DMyTF)

200 Proud Boys Defense Witness Was Actually An FBI Informant

-------------------------------

KGB got nothing on these FBI scum.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 24, 2023 01:43 PM (Y5qcH)

201 There are no other options, just do it better than they do.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 24, 2023 01:31 PM (3JfbU)

This is a prime strategy if you want the system to disintegrate under increasing levels of retaliation.

My boy! I didn't realize you were a National Divorce advocate!
Posted by: Kindltot at March 24, 2023 01:33 PM (xhaym)

-----------------

Being a second class citizen tends to lead to that sort of outcome.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 24, 2023 01:43 PM (3JfbU)

202 Gee, I wonder where they go that drone from?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 24, 2023 01:39 PM (Xrfse)

Amazon?

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 24, 2023 01:43 PM (DRSnL)

203 I was just thinking that while watching the second clip. She spoke extemporaneously for almost two minutes, with nary an "um", "they is", or other problem. She is light years ahead of the average pol, and I include DeSantis in that category. He should hire her as his speech coach.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 24, 2023 01:41 PM (eOEVl)

Yeah but Trump said pussy, so what are you gonna do?

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2023 01:44 PM (pwExq)

204 She is light years ahead of the average pol, and I include DeSantis in that category. He should hire her as his speech coach.

Yeah she has a lightning fast mind and is filled with aggression and drive. She's great as a politician. Would be hell as a wife, but great as a politician

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 24, 2023 01:44 PM (0hOvj)

205 No biggie Andy.

This way more people are informed on the dangerous games being played on the global stage by the idiots in the White House.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 24, 2023 01:44 PM (DsBY7)

206 188 She had decades of training as TV talking head, and it shows. I acknowledge her skill, but slickness doesn't sell me, esp in politicians. I'd have gladly voted for her, but that's not why.

Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 01:45 PM (MvF+J)

207
Yeah she has a lightning fast mind and is filled with aggression and drive. She's great as a politician. Would be hell as a wife, but great as a politician
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 24, 2023 01:44 PM (0hOvj)

Wasn't she a TV News broadcaster?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:45 PM (Zz0t1)

208 Yeah she has a lightning fast mind and is filled with aggression and drive. She's great as a politician. Would be hell as a wife, but great as a politician

I dunno. Some of us like spunky women. I like spunk.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 24, 2023 01:45 PM (eOEVl)

209 tOO LATE. aBORTION mOUSE IS IN bABY

Posted by: Democrat Nutjob Committee at March 24, 2023 01:46 PM (v0R5T)

210 Read the Marxists are going after Kari for vote fraud or trying to take over like Georgia is going after DJT

Posted by: Skip at March 24, 2023 01:46 PM (E02rt)

211 I'd have gladly voted for her, but that's not why.
Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 01:45 PM (MvF+J)

It's okay to say its because she has boobs.

We understand.

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2023 01:46 PM (pwExq)

212 I'm not buying that. Arizona courts have overturned elections in the past, and if courts in general don't prosecute fraud, then the entire system will crash. A majority of people in this country believe elections are fraudulent, and a majority of people in this country believe the 2020 election was fraudulent. If they abdicate responsibility, then we don't have a republic.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 24, 2023 01:40 PM (lTGtQ)
++++
We don't have a republic. We have a bureaucratic tyranny and the typical post-republican scenario where the state and ruling party have fused into an indistinguishable whole. Mainland China is the CCP. South Africa is the ANC. Venezuela is the PSUV. The United States is the Uniparty.

And the courts won't decline to take up all fraud cases, nor will they deliberately corrupt the proceedings in all fraud cases - only fraud cases directly threatening major ruling systems. They will not abdicate responsibility in general, they just tend to do so in the specific. And they don't even directly abdicate, they just rule that there is nothing the courts can do because of reasons X, Y or Z.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 24, 2023 01:46 PM (t0OGg)

213 She had decades of training as TV talking head, and it shows. I acknowledge her skill, but slickness doesn't sell me, esp in politicians. I'd have gladly voted for her, but that's not why.

I acknowledge that it helps, but some things really can't be taught. Can you imagine Biden ever coming anywhere close to her, and he's been in the public eye his entire adult life.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 24, 2023 01:46 PM (eOEVl)

214 I like spunk.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 24, 2023 01:45 PM (eOEVl)

We're really not doing phrasing anymore?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:46 PM (Zz0t1)

215 Wasn't she a TV News broadcaster?

Yes, channel 10, the Fox affiliate in Phoenix.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 24, 2023 01:46 PM (Bd6X8)

216
Gee, I wonder where they go that drone from?
Posted by: Notorious BFD

King Harv

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 24, 2023 01:47 PM (63Dwl)

217 Katie Hobbs supposedly was laundering bribes from the cartels through hinky real estate deals.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at March 24, 2023 01:47 PM (OgrpQ)

218 Note to law enforcement: You don't have to catch all of them. Not every one. Just catch some and make an example of them. Come down on them like a ton of bricks. Publicize the heck out of it. The rest fall in line, and become law abiding.
This model has worked for the IRS for decades.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, passes the gourmet popcorn at March 24, 2023 01:41 PM (jTmQV)
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Use them to work your way up the chain. Make them afraid because they are in YOUR custody, not someone else's. Sooner or later they will give up the goods.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 24, 2023 01:47 PM (YIVH2)

219 Katie Hobbs supposedly was laundering bribes from the cartels through hinky real estate deals.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at March 24, 2023 01:47 PM (OgrpQ)

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:48 PM (Zz0t1)

220 Antisemitic incidents hit record in 2022, ADL says

https://tinyurl.com/bdzy6njc

Really? I would have guessed somewhere in 1938-43, but you can't argue with the Science!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 24, 2023 01:48 PM (UuD2k)

221 Yahoo News reports a suspected Iranian drone has killed an American contractor and wounded five troops in Syria.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 24, 2023 01:37 PM (DsBY7)
........

That does it. Send a couple more Billion to Z-dog.

Posted by: wth at March 24, 2023 01:48 PM (v0R5T)

222 I acknowledge that it helps, but some things really can't be taught. Can you imagine Biden ever coming anywhere close to her, and he's been in the public eye his entire adult life.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 24, 2023 01:46 PM (eOEVl)

And yet, one of them won election, the other didn't.

QUALITY CANDIDATES, PEOPLE!

Now get out there and vote harder!

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2023 01:48 PM (pwExq)

223 And if she weren't doing this, there would be ZERO chance. And yet, people complain.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 24, 2023 01:43 PM (eOEVl)
++++
I'm not complaining. I am glad she's doing it and I'm glad that some of this is coming to light. She's never stopped fighting and I hugely respect that.

I just don't expect anything positive to come from it, at least not officially. More people waking up to the scam of American government is *always* a good thing, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 24, 2023 01:48 PM (t0OGg)

224 A majority of people in this country believe elections are fraudulent, and a majority of people in this country believe the 2020 election was fraudulent. If they abdicate responsibility, then we don't have a republic.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 24, 2023 01:40 PM (lTGtQ)

Exactly. Given that the current Department of JUstice under Merrick Garland prosecutes imaginary crimes like the Gestapo while ignoring oligarch pedophilia, this isn't a sound strategy. If you want a Boogaloo, go ahead and tell people the only option to fix rigged elections is to rig them better. Not gonna happen.

Posted by: trev006 at March 24, 2023 01:48 PM (DTm0P)

225 Gee, I wonder where they go that drone from?
Posted by: Notorious BFD

King Harv

Ah, now it all makes sense. Heh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 24, 2023 01:48 PM (Xrfse)

226 "Can you imagine Biden ever coming anywhere close to her"

To take a sniff, yes.

Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 01:49 PM (MvF+J)

227
To take a sniff, yes.
Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 01:49 PM (MvF+J)

She WAY too old for that.

He'd just stand behind her in Christmas photos, grabbing her hips and grinding away.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

228 "Katie Hobbs supposedly was laundering bribes from the cartels through hinky real estate deals."

Story is dynamite, but apparently not going anywhere.

Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 01:50 PM (MvF+J)

229 217 Katie Hobbs supposedly was laundering bribes from the cartels through hinky real estate deals.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at March 24, 2023 01:47 PM (OgrpQ)

What is your address? We have a very valuable gift for you. It must be handed to you at your residence.

Posted by: Sinaloa Gift Distrubutors, Inc. at March 24, 2023 01:50 PM (AMIL/)

230 https://is.gd/AipQfh

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:51 PM (Zz0t1)

231 He'd just stand behind her in Christmas photos, grabbing her hips and grinding away.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

Eww.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 24, 2023 01:51 PM (DRSnL)

232 three whistleblowers who claim 130,000 votes had been rejected because of bogus signatures, but "higher-ups" insisted they be counted.
........

81 million votes, people.

Posted by: wth at March 24, 2023 01:51 PM (v0R5T)

233 Yup. And in *any* cheat-by-mail state, cheating is the only path to victory.

And the problem with the above is no chain of custody or oversight when it comes to the US Postal Service. I'm sure the will play it straight.

Posted by: KJP is a race and gender swapped Side Show Bob at March 24, 2023 01:51 PM (QpUKb)

234 This busty redhead in a blue dress is pulling for Lake:
https://is.gd/WFEEPf

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 24, 2023 01:51 PM (t0OGg)

235 And yet, one of them won election, the other didn't.

QUALITY CANDIDATES, PEOPLE!

Now get out there and vote harder!
Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2023 01:48 PM (pwExq)

One of them won an election. The other licks windows and gropes children.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 24, 2023 01:52 PM (NK0sx)

236 Antisemitic incidents hit record in 2022, ADL says

When did they start recording, 1984? I'm guessing they greatly redefined "incident" in recent years. Yes, there are more anti-Jewish events recently than say, 6 years ago, but the most ever? Even if you just say USA that's ludicrous.

I wonder if they looked at those and broke them down by ethnic origin or they realized that might be damaging to their intended narrative?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 24, 2023 01:52 PM (0hOvj)

237 I think that I may have underestimated King Harv.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 24, 2023 01:52 PM (Xrfse)

238 AP headline: Arizona court declines most of Lake's appeal over gov's race

So she lost 99% of her case, but is proclaiming victory. Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?

Lake is dangerous. And un-American.

As is a Court that didn't state...what difference does it make?? And dismiss 100%. Damn fascists worm their way through every loophole in democracy…seems to be like Swiss cheese.

Activist court.They should have just dismissed the whole thing. But they threw her a bone because they knew how stupid MAGATs are and could be persuaded, if presented to them by any snake oil salesman or woman, that the whole election was fraudulent based on this one ruling.

Disgusting watching her because she is smart and knows exactly what she is doing. Taking advantage of the "uneducated" that Trump loves so much.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 24, 2023 01:52 PM (JCZqz)

239 230 https://is.gd/AipQfh
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:51 PM (Zz0t1)
____

The 'otter surprise' treatment?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 24, 2023 01:52 PM (fs1hN)

240 And the problem with the above is no chain of custody or oversight when it comes to the US Postal Service. I'm sure the will play it straight.
Posted by: KJP is a race and gender swapped Side Show Bob at March 24, 2023 01:51 PM (QpUKb)
++++
I kind of doubt that the USPS is a major malefactor of great importance. Some happens there, to be sure, but I doubt it's all that meaningful.

The ballot harvesting, the muling, the door-to-door intimidation, the ease of ballot manufacturing and mass injection into the system, etc. are *much* bigger factors.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 24, 2023 01:52 PM (t0OGg)

241 This busty redhead in a blue dress is pulling for Lake:
https://is.gd/WFEEPf
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 24, 2023 01:51 PM (t0OGg)

Well, SOMETHING'S being pulled.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)

242 234 This busty redhead in a blue dress is pulling for Lake:
https://is.gd/WFEEPf
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 24, 2023 01:51 PM (t0OGg)

She better pull as much as she can now, she's going to have lower back problems in the near future.

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2023 01:53 PM (pwExq)

243 I'm not buying that. Arizona courts have overturned elections in the past, and if courts in general don't prosecute fraud, then the entire system will crash. A majority of people in this country believe elections are fraudulent, and a majority of people in this country believe the 2020 election was fraudulent. If they abdicate responsibility, then we don't have a republic.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 24, 2023 01:40 PM (lTGtQ)

------------------

In the end we will have to cheat better than they do to save the republic (only slightly sarcastic).

Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 24, 2023 01:53 PM (3JfbU)

244 Busty redhead built for comfort, not speed.
I approve.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at March 24, 2023 01:53 PM (ufFY8)

245 238 Disgusting watching her because she is smart and knows exactly what she is doing. Taking advantage of the "uneducated" that Trump loves so much.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 24, 2023 01:52 PM (JCZqz)

========

Those "uneducated" never believe Obama's "if you like your plan you can keep it".

Because they're so stupid!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 24, 2023 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

246 ... Disgusting watching her because she is smart and knows exactly what she is doing. Taking advantage of the "uneducated" that Trump loves so much.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 24, 2023 01:52 PM (JCZqz)
++++
Same planet, different worlds.

This is *exactly* how I feel about Elizabeth Warren. She's smart enough to know better and knows exactly what she is doing, and takes advantage of drooling masses of glass-eyed communists stamped out by universities to impose the system that will enslave them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 24, 2023 01:54 PM (t0OGg)

247 In the end we will have to cheat better than they do to save the republic (only slightly sarcastic).
Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 24, 2023 01:53 PM (3JfbU)
------------
Henry Gondorff v. Doyle Lonegan

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at March 24, 2023 01:54 PM (2hlEI)

248 The ballot harvesting, the muling, the door-to-door intimidation, the ease of ballot manufacturing and mass injection into the system, etc. are *much* bigger factors.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 24, 2023 01:52 PM (t0OGg)

It all adds up. The Leftist mail collector who loses the bag of mail-in ballots from the likely-Republican area is doing his part.

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2023 01:55 PM (pwExq)

249 246 This is *exactly* how I feel about Elizabeth Warren. She's smart enough to know better and knows exactly what she is doing, and takes advantage of drooling masses of glass-eyed communists stamped out by universities to impose the system that will enslave them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 24, 2023 01:54 PM (t0OGg)

========

The guy who built the factory and got rich making things for people would never have gotten there without his 3rd grade teacher, you know.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 24, 2023 01:55 PM (LvTSG)

250 "I kind of doubt that the USPS is a major malefactor of great importance."

Good question. What are the party voting pattern stats on USPS employees?

Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 01:55 PM (MvF+J)

251
I dunno. Some of us like spunky women. I like spunk.
Posted by: Archimedes

Oh yeah?

https://youtu.be/0cHSYhafCQM

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 24, 2023 01:56 PM (63Dwl)

252 The guy who built the factory and got rich making things for people would never have gotten there without his 3rd grade teacher, you know.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch
........

Is he sure he's a guy?

Posted by: wth at March 24, 2023 01:56 PM (v0R5T)

253 My mail lady is a Never Trumper.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 24, 2023 01:56 PM (DTZDT)

254 In the end we will have to cheat better than they do to save the republic (only slightly sarcastic).
Posted by: President Select Decaf at March 24, 2023 01:53 PM (3JfbU)

I say that with no snark at all. If you want the Dems to participate in voter integrity, the Republicans need to get good at cheating.

There is no other way.

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2023 01:56 PM (pwExq)

255 Governor Kari Lake.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at March 24, 2023 01:57 PM (2P/0d)

256 I recall a story from CA from years ago. A couple in the east Bay was trying to bring attention to voter fraud in CA elections. So they cheated and registered their pet terrier to vote. Sure enough, the terrier got an absentee ballot. So the couple went on TV news with their terrier and his ballot just to prove a point.
The CA AG came down on them so hard, so fast.
For all I know they are still in prison.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, passes the gourmet popcorn at March 24, 2023 01:57 PM (jTmQV)

257 They have built a House of Cards in Maricopa County.
I’m not just going to knock it over. I’m going to burn it to the ground.
........

Oh spank me.

Posted by: wth at March 24, 2023 01:58 PM (v0R5T)

258 "This busty redhead in a blue dress is pulling for Lake:
https://is.gd/WFEEPf"

Not very attractive to me. I'm sure she's heartbroken about it, but had to say it.

Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 01:58 PM (MvF+J)

259 256 I recall a story from CA from years ago. A couple in the east Bay was trying to bring attention to voter fraud in CA elections. So they cheated and registered their pet terrier to vote. Sure enough, the terrier got an absentee ballot. So the couple went on TV news with their terrier and his ballot just to prove a point.
The CA AG came down on them so hard, so fast.
For all I know they are still in prison.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, passes the gourmet popcorn at March 24, 2023 01:57 PM (jTmQV)

=======

But Republicans cheating will convince Democrats to go honest.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 24, 2023 01:58 PM (LvTSG)

260 What do you expect from a male lady?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 24, 2023 01:58 PM (63Dwl)

261 "They have built a House of Cards in Maricopa County."

The solution is obvious: nominate Frank Underwood. FU's our man!

Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 01:59 PM (MvF+J)

262 But Republicans cheating will convince Democrats to go honest.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 24, 2023 01:58 PM (LvTSG)

That is not the path. Republicans winning by cheating will force the Dems to demand voter integrity.

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2023 01:59 PM (pwExq)

263 It all adds up. The Leftist mail collector who loses the bag of mail-in ballots from the likely-Republican area is doing his part.
Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2023 01:55 PM (pwExq)
++++
True enough.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 24, 2023 02:00 PM (t0OGg)

264 The weekend is coming

Posted by: Skip at March 24, 2023 02:00 PM (E02rt)

265 262 But Republicans cheating will convince Democrats to go honest.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 24, 2023 01:58 PM (LvTSG)

That is not the path. Republicans winning by cheating will force the Dems to demand voter integrity.
Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2023 01:59 PM (pwExq)

=======

Nah. It'll lead to selective enforcement of the law.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 24, 2023 02:00 PM (LvTSG)

266 260 What do you expect from a male lady?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 24, 2023 01:58 PM (63Dwl)

I have no idea, but keep an eye on your luggage.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 24, 2023 02:00 PM (UuD2k)

267 How do I get started on my dreams?

Posted by: Jimco Industries at March 24, 2023 02:00 PM (buTO7)

268 three whistleblowers who claim 130,000 votes had been rejected because of bogus signatures, but "higher-ups" insisted they be counted.

Last night all 2020 mail-in ballots, every single one, both valid and invalid, were destroyed in an accidental warehouse fire. The Board regrets its decision to allow the County to store barrels of gasoline in the same warehouse the Board used to store the 2020 mail-in ballots.

Posted by: Chairman, Maricopa County Election Board at March 24, 2023 02:00 PM (AMIL/)

269 Neighbor is a retired postal worker.
Hard core Dem.

Posted by: Bosk at March 24, 2023 02:00 PM (ZVuYy)

270 "Republicans winning by cheating will force the Dems to demand voter integrity."

It will force the Dems to employ AI to think up new cheating strategies.

Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 02:01 PM (MvF+J)

271 What do you expect from a male lady?

A pink negligee accessorized with steel toe boots?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 24, 2023 02:01 PM (Xrfse)

272 Nah. It'll lead to selective enforcement of the law.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, being witty and sophisticated with Ernst Lubitsch at March 24, 2023 02:00 PM (LvTSG)

THE CONSTITUTION GUARANTEES EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER THE LAW!

Oh, wait...

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2023 02:01 PM (pwExq)

273 The weekend is coming
Posted by: Skip
.......

That reminds me. Buy beer.

Posted by: wth at March 24, 2023 02:01 PM (v0R5T)

274 But we're not at war.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

We're not at war
So just forget it
It's just a silly phase
We're going through

We're not at war
Oh,nooooo, just because
OOh , we send a lot to Ukraine
Oooh, we send a lot to Syria
Ooooooh, we send a lot....

We're not at war
So just forget it
It's just a silly phase
We're going through

Posted by: Witless Protection Program at March 24, 2023 02:02 PM (vcOmj)

275 It will force the Dems to employ AI to think up new cheating strategies.
Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 02:01 PM (MvF+J)

The programed AI to think just like them. It's not going to be help to anybody.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 24, 2023 02:02 PM (UuD2k)

276 The weekend is coming
Posted by: Skip

Or maybe it's just breathing hard

Posted by: Witless Protection Program at March 24, 2023 02:03 PM (vcOmj)

277 Well, SOMETHING'S being pulled.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 24, 2023 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)

Clicks on Instragram.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 24, 2023 02:03 PM (FUVRY)

278 "The programed AI to think just like them."

Only the AI that's exposed to the public is brain-damaged woke. The elites have access to the real deal.

Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 02:03 PM (MvF+J)

279 268 three whistleblowers who claim 130,000 votes had been rejected because of bogus signatures, but "higher-ups" insisted they be counted.

Last night all 2020 mail-in ballots, every single one, both valid and invalid, were destroyed in an accidental warehouse fire. The Board regrets its decision to allow the County to store barrels of gasoline in the same warehouse the Board used to store the 2020 mail-in ballots.
Posted by: Chairman, Maricopa County Election Board at March 24, 2023 02:00 PM (AMIL/)

There is no way they can prove this. The ballots come in envelopes. The envelopes have the signatures. If there was forced acceptance and counting of the ballots, they were removed from the envelope. You can't match them up anymore.

It's almost like it were designed to make it impossible to prove it.

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2023 02:03 PM (pwExq)

280 130000 in one state. What is 130000 x 50? Anyone know?

Posted by: ... at March 24, 2023 02:03 PM (w+8sA)

281 ...in fact I think most elections in most alleged Donk areas, are rigged and have been rigged for generations.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 24, 2023 01:22 PM (n/8Ck)

I've had the same thought for a while now. I grew up in Cook County, Illinois (Chicago) and can't remember the last time a Republican was on the ballot. I don't think it's actually illegal yet to be a Republican there but they're working on it no doubt. /s.

My point is, when the Democrats so totally control all aspects of voting - in blue states at least - how do we know what the actual vote was? For all we know Californians vote overwhelmingly for Republicans but the results show only Dems winning, e.g., the Newsome recall election. The Democrats have taken Stalin's dictum about the vote counters to heart and no one will ever know the reality. I'm becoming more and more convinced of that.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at March 24, 2023 02:04 PM (bO7yk)

282 She has eyewitness testmony, but is that enough "proof" for a court? Must she actually show specific ballots that these people can say they rejected but were then mysteriously counted anyway in the tally?

"Proof" is a difficult word. She has plenty of evidence but conclusive proof, as the judge appears to be saying, seems like an impossible standard.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 24, 2023 02:04 PM (ialSb)

283 What kills me is that we sat through hearings on election tampering in 2020 and people swore on the book and signed affidavits of exactly the same thing and it went nowhere. How will this be any different?

Posted by: Jaimo at March 24, 2023 02:04 PM (DBrN4)

284 The weekend is coming
Posted by: Skip

***
Yup. I plan to be outta here in less than 3 hours.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 24, 2023 02:04 PM (J2vNu)

285 130000 in one state. What is 130000 x 50? Anyone know?
Posted by: ... at March 24, 2023 02:03 PM (w+8sA)

No. That's math.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 24, 2023 02:04 PM (DRSnL)

286 I believe Trump made some comments about ginning up a ballot harvesting program to counter the Democrats. Whether is was in jest is debatable, but at least he's aware of the issue and what sort of possible counter measures might be needed.

And, no, I don't think something like this would bring the left to the table to end the practice. It would put a lot of Republicans in jail however.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 24, 2023 02:05 PM (Q4IgG)

287 Reminder from this morning (I think Doof pointed this out):

it's National Cocktail Day.

Comes in very handy in these difficult times.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 24, 2023 02:06 PM (ialSb)

288 This is all great but until some elected official or judge throws out an election due to fraud...and the fraudsters get arrested...this will continue.

I did notice in Florida DeSantis arrested some people for vote fraud and overnight the local news there went from "there is no fraud, NONE!" to "these poor people didn't even know they were voting fraudulently but DeSantis is a racist meanie!"...but DeSantis in doing even a little bit of this due diligence turned Florida from purple to bright red...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 24, 2023 02:06 PM (lc5cP)

289 Noodus syriana

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 24, 2023 02:06 PM (J2vNu)

290 I recall a story from CA from years ago. A couple in the east Bay was trying to bring attention to voter fraud in CA elections. So they cheated and registered their pet terrier to vote. Sure enough, the terrier got an absentee ballot. So the couple went on TV news with their terrier and his ballot just to prove a point.
The CA AG came down on them so hard, so fast.
For all I know they are still in prison.

--

So endeth today's lesson on (R)s cheating.

Posted by: Daddy, why are muffin pans made with twelve spaces instead of five? at March 24, 2023 02:06 PM (O69GV)

291 "What is 130000 x 50?"

> many

Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 02:06 PM (MvF+J)

292 Behind closed doors Kari Lake threatened Maricopa County with a baseball bat!

Posted by: Matt Drudge Drama Queef at March 24, 2023 02:07 PM (OZjDX)

293 nood

Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 02:07 PM (MvF+J)

294 130000 in one state. What is 130000 x 50? Anyone know?
Posted by: ... at March 24, 2023 02:03 PM

6500000.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at March 24, 2023 02:07 PM (a3Q+t)

295 I'm sure Jim Jordan and the House Republicans will get right on this problem

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 24, 2023 02:07 PM (ialSb)

296 ...And, no, I don't think something like this would bring the left to the table to end the practice. It would put a lot of Republicans in jail however.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 24, 2023 02:05 PM (Q4IgG)

Precisely. Because of out two tiered justice system. Only Democrats are allowed to cheat. It says so somewhere in the Constitution, I think.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at March 24, 2023 02:07 PM (bO7yk)

297 130000 in one state. What is 130000 x 50? Anyone know?
Posted by: ...

This sounds suspiciously like math, or really just arithmetic.

About 6.5 million, just doing it in my head.

Posted by: Witless Protection Program at March 24, 2023 02:07 PM (vcOmj)

298 She has eyewitness testmony, but is that enough "proof" for a court? Must she actually show specific ballots that these people can say they rejected but were then mysteriously counted anyway in the tally?

"Proof" is a difficult word. She has plenty of evidence but conclusive proof, as the judge appears to be saying, seems like an impossible standard.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 24, 2023 02:04 PM (ialSb)

Even if you had hard evidence that the envelopes that failed signature match were counted anyway - I mean even if you have a video of Abortion Mouse walking into the counting room and stating explicitly that the workers had to count them no matter what - you couldn't prove that it changed the vote total in any particular way. Those might have all been Kari Lake votes for all you know. And you know nothing, because they made the system that way so you can't.

Posted by: blaster at March 24, 2023 02:07 PM (pwExq)

299 Only the AI that's exposed to the public is brain-damaged woke. The elites have access to the real deal.

Related:

https://tinyurl.com/rpsaszwe

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 24, 2023 02:07 PM (0hOvj)

300 "Proof" is a difficult word. She has plenty of evidence but conclusive proof, as the judge appears to be saying, seems like an impossible standard.

To this point no court has been willing to say you have X votes that are likely fake, and the margin of victory was less then X therefore the election is vacated.

And I've seen the left fall back on, "sure a bunch of votes weren't on the up and up but you can't prove they were for Biden/Abortion Mouse/etc" which...is intentional - that's the whole point of the secret ballot.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 24, 2023 02:08 PM (lc5cP)

301 Nood, limp-wanker Biden's response in Syria.

Posted by: Scott_T at March 24, 2023 02:08 PM (2waQ7)

302 6500000.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at March 24, 2023 02:07 PM (a3Q+t)

Shut up Wesley

Posted by: ... at March 24, 2023 02:11 PM (w+8sA)

303 299 The manifold tools to build AIs are available and often open source. The only way to make a woke AI is to punish a real AI every time it discovers uncomfortable truths. I see no reason at this point that people interested in truth (presumably us) can't build a sane, unpunished, truthful AI.

Posted by: Let gp Sink In at March 24, 2023 02:11 PM (MvF+J)

304 New Trummp news is the DOJ has stripped him not only of Attorney-Client priivilege but, now, some Demofascist judge in Washington has ruled that Trumps cabinet officers cannot claim Executive Privilege.

I think the easier thing for the nation is to chain Trump to a chair and throw him in the Potomoc; if he drowns, he's innocent, and if he survives we will know the Russians have even infiltrated the investigation.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 24, 2023 02:11 PM (ialSb)

305 @234

>>This busty redhead in a blue dress is pulling for Lake:
https://is.gd/WFEEPf

That is a thick girl built for comfort and speed.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 24, 2023 02:11 PM (n/8Ck)

306 The manifold tools to build AIs are available and often open source. The only way to make a woke AI is to punish a real AI every time it discovers uncomfortable truths. I see no reason at this point that people interested in truth (presumably us) can't build a sane, unpunished, truthful AI.

Right, AI always starts off operating solely on facts unless you train it on MSNBC transcripts or something.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 24, 2023 02:33 PM (ZGrMX)

307 "I'm bucking the trend and expressing my optimism because this woman is a fighter.

And fortune favors the BOLD

AGREE kallisto!

and every strike on the Wall of Silence is another blow to breaking thru

our govt is corrupt"
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Two thumbs up. I get the cynicism of seemingly most folks here and share it - there is reason to for sure. But I will support someone like Lake (who we claim we want - a fighter) 100%. I recall Teddy Roosevelt's quote about the man in the arena as opposed to the naysayers.

Bless her and give her strength.

Posted by: RM at March 24, 2023 03:04 PM (0eYOS)

308 I dunno. Some of us like spunky women. I like spunk.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 24, 2023 01:45 PM (eOEVl)

I hate spunk.

Posted by: Lou Grant at March 24, 2023 03:12 PM (Zvtjl)

309 They've been playing this game for about 40 years now.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 24, 2023 01:12 PM (n/8Ck)

They kept the fare at a nickel far longer than they should have.

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Posted by: Glenna Craig at March 24, 2023 03:57 PM (JDWa+)

311 Only legal Americans should be allowed to Vote

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at March 24, 2023 05:07 PM (wGqjj)

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