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Great: US Predator Reaper Drone Collides With Russian Fighter Jet, Forcing the US to Crash the Drone Into the Black Sea
So great, now we've actually got air assets engaging with each other.
zerohedgeEUCOM is shouting that it's Russia who is acting "reckless" and "incompetent" here. And also, unbelievably: "envrionmentally unsound." That'll learn 'em.
@zerohedge RUSSIA FIGHTER JET STRUCK PROPELLER OF U.S. MILITARY "REAPER" DRONE, FORCING U.S. TO BRING IT DOWN OVER BLACK SEA - U.S. MILITARY STATEMENT
A Russian jet struck the propeller of a U.S. Reaper drone over the Black Sea, forcing U.S. forces to bring down the drone, the Pentagon said, one of the first direct military confrontations between the two nations' forces since the war in Ukraine began more than a year ago. Before the collision, which occurred around 7 a.m. local time Tuesday, two Russian Su-27s "dumped fuel on and flew in front of the MQ-9 in a reckless, environmentally unsound and unprofessional manner," said the U.S. European Command in a statement. "This incident demonstrates a lack of competence in addition to being unsafe and unprofessional," said the EUCOM, which is responsible for U.S. military operations in the region.Yeah, it's called a WAR, and you've brought the US into it. Did you not know what happens during a WAR WITH RUSSIA, Pentagon?
"Routine" operations. Uh-huh. National security spokesman John Kirby said he briefed the brain-damaged president, and then also shouted about how "unprofessional" and "unsafe" Russia is behaving in a WAR the US is fighting against it.
After the collision, the U.S. brought down its drone. The drone was conducting "routine operations" over international airspace in the Black Sea, EUCOM said.
President Biden was briefed Tuesday morning on the incident, White House national security spokesperson John Kirby told reporters, also calling it "unprofessional" and "unsafe." "It is not uncommon for there to be intercepts by Russian aircraft of U.S. aircraft over the Black Sea," Kirby said. "And there have been, even in just recent weeks, there have been other intercepts. But this one obviously is noteworthy because of how unsafe and unprofessional it was ... in causing the downing of one of our aircraft."Aw shucks our Predator Reaper drone wasn't doin' nuffin', it was just hanging out on the stoop playing with marbles and doing routine operations, when all of a sudden for no reason these Russian Jet Bullies came out of nowhere and started makin' trouble for it. It's good to keep a sense of humor as the brain-damaged fake president shuffles and stumbles the nation into World War Three. Did they have to wake President Sleep-and-Shit up, btw?
On Monday's installment of Morning Joe, former White House Press Secretary-turned-pundit Jen Psaki was called upon to share her thoughts on Biden's speech about two bank failures that shook stocks on Wall Street and sent ripples through global markets. But, instead of emphasizing the substance of Biden's remarks -- the president insisted Americans "should feel confident" after the biggest bank failures since 2008 -- Psaki decided to make her point about the timing of his remarks. That's where things went south. "It's important to note, President Biden does nothing at 9:00 AM," Psaki emphasized -- apparently not realizing that such a quip wouldn't land the way she intended. "He is a night owl," Psaki continued, "so the fact that he is doing this at 9:00 AM anyway speaks to how vital the White House recognizes it is for him to have his voice out there conveying that to the American public."Yeah, Biden's a "night owl." That's why he starts sundowning at the exact time the Red Lobster starts its Early Bird Dinner discounts. Update: Why was the language in the statement so weak and soy? Reuben Hick nails it:
But this one obviously is noteworthy because of how unsafe and unprofessional it was . Still using trigger words to cater to the emotional-language smooth brains.Dang, that is it exactly. This language is carefully selected to rile up its Safetyist Pink-Haired Nosering base, who might one day remember that they usually pose as being "anti-war." So they're using language to appease them, telling them Russia is behaving like a Young Americans for Freedom member on a college campus, and therefore should be eradicated from the face of the earth. That is the whole point of accusing Russia -- Russia, for Heaven's sake, author of the Chernobyl disaster -- of acting in an "environmentally unsound" manner.
Jen Psaki: “The fact that [Biden] is doing this at 9 AM…speaks to how vital the White House recognizes it is for him to have his voice out there…” pic.twitter.com/bx92aNqvGx
— Townhall.com (@townhallcom) March 13, 2023
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: nurse ratched at March 14, 2023 02:32 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 14, 2023 02:32 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Puddleglum at March 14, 2023 02:32 PM (sAmhv)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 02:32 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 14, 2023 02:32 PM (0bidA)
Posted by: Kitchener Lesley at March 14, 2023 02:33 PM (CgQvH)
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 14, 2023 02:32 PM
Same, and you still beat me
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 02:33 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at March 14, 2023 02:34 PM (0vFtj)
Posted by: Puddleglum at March 14, 2023 02:32 PM (sAmhv)
Good news, you've been paying attention for more than three years! Well done, sir!
Posted by: pookysgirl, with a congratulatory handshake at March 14, 2023 02:34 PM (dtlDP)
We are not a serious country any more. Not even when faced with very serious situations like war with an aggressive nuclear power like Russia. The future belongs to serious countries. The future does not belong to us.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 14, 2023 02:34 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 02:34 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 14, 2023 02:34 PM (DO/Ax)
Posted by: Puddleglum at March 14, 2023 02:32 PM (sAmhv)
Then you are just a young pup!!!
Posted by: Moki at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM (JrN/x)
Posted by: Puddleglum at March 14, 2023 02:32 PM (sAmhv)
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I'll bet they're rolled back the "Doomsday Clock" an hour for Biden Daylight Time.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM (0bidA)
How dare you!
Posted by: Greta Thunberg at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM (dTFZY)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM (ppBhU)
No, I'm not being stupid, I'm quoting our military.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: like they wont shoot u.s. civilians whe ordered at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM (89Sog)
Posted by: ... at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM (BXxcV)
Of course now you'll just go and ruin it by changing it back.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM (bs+z0)
He was turning his life around, wanted to be an aspiring rapper....
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM (p+1gI)
Posted by: JT at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM (T4tVD)
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM (iFTx/)
I will allow the Russians to nuke New Yawk City if I can nuke Kiev. In fact, the Russians can also nuke washington dc and hollyweird for free.
I won't miss them and we can call it even.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 14, 2023 02:36 PM (LAno9)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 14, 2023 02:36 PM (WentF)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 14, 2023 02:36 PM (ppBhU)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 14, 2023 02:36 PM (Xrfse)
oh i meant to post that
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2023 02:36 PM (BvUNN)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 02:36 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 14, 2023 02:32 PM (U2p+3)
2 And I read the content.
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 14, 2023 02:32 PM (U2p+3)
Showoff!
Posted by: Doof at March 14, 2023 02:36 PM (6uyrZ)
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2023 02:36 PM (BvUNN)
Posted by: Adm'l Josh Painter Quote at March 14, 2023 02:36 PM (BgvsW)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 14, 2023 02:36 PM (UuD2k)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 14, 2023 02:36 PM (bs+z0)
Posted by: Moki at March 14, 2023 02:37 PM (JrN/x)
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 14, 2023 02:37 PM (DO/Ax)
Posted by: Thrawn at March 14, 2023 02:37 PM (Rl7KJ)
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 14, 2023 02:37 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:37 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 14, 2023 02:37 PM (YIVH2)
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 14, 2023 02:37 PM (DO/Ax)
As the Russians put it:
все идет по плану
(Everything is going according to plan.)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 14, 2023 02:37 PM (2tUFv)
Not my president. Not yours, either.
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2023 02:37 PM (BvUNN)
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This is the Russian pilots doing their Top Gun international sign of friendship moment.
Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2023 02:37 PM (kOpft)
The West is determined to announce to God and everyone that we're aiming to lose in the most embarrassing ways possible.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at March 14, 2023 02:37 PM (aXxgO)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 14, 2023 02:37 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM
New shower mates for Joey Prell.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: Skip at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (xhxe8)
Sounds like the Russkie pilots were more or less saying "Piss on you and kiss my ass."
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (Bd6X8)
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Yup. At least it will be surprising.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (t0OGg)
Peak Idiocy can hardly be defined in today's America.
Absolutely certain that quite a bit of laughter erupted when Russian military/others read translation of those statements.
I really should check in with my favorite firebrand russki radio guy, he used to have quite a bit of fun with idiotic statements like that from the US and NATO countries.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (OTzUX)
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Army needs bodies who want to be all they can be.
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (kgI4a)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (eGTCV)
ha-ha. I guess I'm so used to not being up at 9am my brain changed it to 9pm without telling me
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (BvUNN)
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (BvUNN)
Posted by: Thomas Paine
Boots 🥾 on the ground by June.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (DQJX0)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (ohFNB)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (t0OGg)
As bad as Putin is, Brandon is worse.
Posted by: Kitchener Lesley at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (CgQvH)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 14, 2023 02:36 PM (WentF)
"Vasily, why is gun mounted sideways?"
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (wmDcS)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 14, 2023 02:39 PM (UuD2k)
Anyway, this doesn't bode well for our int'l relations foray in Central and Eastern Europe.
Posted by: Moki at March 14, 2023 02:39 PM (JrN/x)
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 14, 2023 02:39 PM (kgI4a)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 02:39 PM (oE0yX)
ha-ha. I guess I'm so used to not being up at 9am my brain changed it to 9pm without telling me
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (BvUNN)
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No worries! Just an amusing typo!
Blame it on the time change!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 14, 2023 02:39 PM (YIVH2)
Heh. But the time machine means you can go back and post by Noon.
Posted by: mindful webworker - sunrise surprise at March 14, 2023 02:39 PM (8jn+t)
Posted by: Putin, laughing his ass off. at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (ufFY8)
So does invading another country.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (eOEVl)
Yes, you wait for it to complete it's mission then shoot it down.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (Bd6X8)
Then took a selfie.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (YIVH2)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (ohFNB)
Posted by: Paul at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (BoeNH)
Posted by: mindful webworker - sunrise sunset slowly go the days at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (8jn+t)
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*intro to Danger Zone*
Come in tower this is Maverick requesting a flyby . . .
Posted by: Adm'l Josh Painter Quote at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (BgvsW)
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 14, 2023 02:37 PM (DO/Ax)
Hi SMH!! hope all is well!!
Posted by: Moki at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (JrN/x)
Posted by: Just The Way It Is at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (Y7B0z)
Slim Pickens would be proud.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (Xrfse)
Well they are, and I frankly don't get the impulse to constantly build Russia up as a victim. Russia isn't out friend, and irrespective of the Ukrainian situation they have pursued an aggressive strategy against the U.S. long before Ukraine, Russia was supporting our enemies on the Middle East who were killing U.S. service members. Your friends, neighbors and family. They have constantly gone after our aircraft, ships and drones in an aggressive, and yes, unprofessional manner. They have also used troops on the ground to help our enemies when there was contact. Apparently the Russian aircraft dumped fuel in front of the MQ-9 and tried to take it down several times with the last strike being contact with the propeller. I'm a little unclear how that makes us or EUCOM the aggressor, incompetent or wrong.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (Y45pj)
For example, it teaches you to properly hate Nebraska.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 14, 2023
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I've never driven more than 2 days in a row by myself -- from Da Swamp to Carlsbad, NM, or to Amarillo, or to Knoxville. Wait, there was 3 days to get to Denver, and 3 days much later to come back. Those were enough to teach me about the sheer size of even that small portion of the country.
Kansas, for all that I'm thinking of living there, is odd. There are long stretches on I-70 between exits, and not every exit has a gas station right there. And you're going very gently uphill as you go west: 1000 feet above sea level at Kansas City, KS, and 4000 at the CO border. It's flat, but it's tilted.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 14, 2023 02:41 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 02:41 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Kitchener Lesley at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (CgQvH)
Say, how's the gf doing these days?
Posted by: Uncle Hector at March 14, 2023 02:41 PM (+m+uH)
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I know you got this, but to spell it out for anyone who needs to hear it, Russia has to assume the thing is loitering for the special forces guys Brandon has in country to paint a target for it, which means dead Russians if it succeeds. There is nothing untoward at all about Russia taking steps to down it before it has a chance to attack.
Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2023 02:41 PM (kOpft)
I have to be teaching my kids by 8:30am...and before that, I have to have my coffee and breakfast, and the coffee takes me about 45-60 minutes to savor (with a morning Wordle play and Ace check, of course)...
Man, maybe I should run for president to reduce my hours of work...
Posted by: Nova Local at March 14, 2023 02:41 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: ... at March 14, 2023 02:41 PM (BXxcV)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 14, 2023 02:41 PM (2tUFv)
Of course I'm going to be surprised when Russians treat it like a War for National Survival.
That's something you'd have to be 50 years old, white, and well-read to believe.
Posted by: A Very Smart Person at March 14, 2023 02:41 PM (0A5+1)
Ahahaha!
Right. He and Obama were notorious for raging all-nighters where they talked about NCAA basketball brackets, biking, and the metaphysical nature of Man.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at March 14, 2023 02:41 PM (aXxgO)
Well they are, and I frankly don't get the impulse to constantly build Russia up as a victim.
You must be a troll.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 14, 2023 02:41 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: ace
I really hate it. I have travelled all over and been in time zones on the other side of the world, and nothing bothers me more than DST.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Archer at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (sI15f)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (LvTSG)
-John Kirby, spokesliar for an illegitimate regime
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Regular joe at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (nnp+f)
But then in 2016 Russia spent $150,000 on FaceBook ads to stir up political trouble which a failed alcoholic lesbian claimed was "stealing the election."
At that point, the left became the absolute most unhinged of Dr. Strangelove level Russia hawks, and began attacking anyone who didn't now want to start a nuclear exchange with Russia a "RUSSIAN AGENT."
Just forget about those previous 90 years, eh, comrade? Like when the Democrat party was made up of front groups directly funded by the KGB?
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (BvUNN)
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The SR71 has, to be quite honest, a giant ass. The P38 also has quite the tail.
Posted by: I'll be in my bunk (not) at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (EguqB)
Why was it over the Black Sea? Are we using it to deliver Brimstone ATMS and crediting the Ukes for the kills?
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli)) at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (c9e7b)
Yeah, this is all just about perfect.
Our government is hell-bent on getting us in this war. Only a matter of time, now.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: EUCOM are fags at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (La8Fd)
Or rather, not be surprised by.
I misspoke, like Commander In Chief Biden.
Posted by: A Very Smart Person at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (0A5+1)
Kind of a ... Maverick move... ain't it?
US: Movie about a Patriotic Hot shot flier gets shafted at awards who by woke Hollyweird...
Russian Pilot: here, hold my Vodka.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: ... at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (BXxcV)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 14, 2023 02:43 PM (jzzG8)
Posted by: spindrift at March 14, 2023 02:43 PM (h5TKJ)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (ohFNB)
The SR-71 is the sexiest plane.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 14, 2023 02:43 PM (iOSQw)
My black pill comments are going to get so much worse!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (LvTSG)
Well, at least you seem to have STFU about... you know, the thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:43 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 14, 2023 02:43 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (BvUNN)
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China took over. Except for the Sierra Club, apparently.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 02:43 PM (LvTSG)
As bad as Putin is, Brandon is worse.
Posted by: Kitchener Lesley at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (CgQvH)
Fuck this Putin shit. Biden's level of contempt for me and mine is matched equally by me and mine. That he purports to represent me because we were both born in a similar geographic location has no bearing on me. If Russia fired a missile up his incontinent ass I would laugh and laugh and laugh.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 02:43 PM (KbCG3)
Do these dumbasses have ANY idea what happens in a war? These are incredible statements on nonserious politicos.
I'm embarrassed they said it and concerned that the dumbfucks running my country are allowing the Military Industrial Money Launderers to slide us into a war that will be more worthless than Afghanistan.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2023 02:43 PM (DcKNO)
Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (Y45pj)
What do you suppose we've got a drone doing there?
It's playing spotter. I think it already came out some time ago we were feeding the Ukrainians targeting data.
Maybe we owe the Chinese an apology about their spy balloon if that isn't kosher?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 14, 2023 02:44 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:43 PM (zZu0s)
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*considers mentioning Prometheus*
*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*
*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 02:44 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 14, 2023 02:44 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli)) at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (c9e7b)
Surveillance platform so we could hand targeting data over to Uke Antiship missile sites.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2023 02:44 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 14, 2023 02:44 PM (lTGtQ)
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What can one do in the face of such reckless hate?
Posted by: King Theodin wonders aloud while surveying the orc hordes at March 14, 2023 02:44 PM (GlYT3)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 14, 2023 02:44 PM (cMXNt)
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The SR71 has, to be quite honest, a giant ass. The P38 also has quite the tail.
Posted by: I'll be in my bunk (not) at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (EguqB)
To be fair, if the XB-70 had a vagina, I would be fucking it. Or at least making a couple futile passes at it. It would probably be banging the SR-71 or the B-36.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:45 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2023 02:45 PM (ZLI7S)
It's playing spotter. I think it already came out some time ago we were feeding the Ukrainians targeting data.
Maybe we owe the Chinese an apology about their spy balloon if that isn't kosher?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 14, 2023 02:44 PM (eYoxG)
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It sure wasn't there planting daisies.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 14, 2023 02:45 PM (YIVH2)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 02:43 PM (KbCG3)
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Also, I'm pretty sure that Congress has not passed any kind of declaration of war, or even some kind of war powers act regarding Russia yet.
Russia may be bombing Ukraine, but it's not actively trying to make my life worse in the name of Gaia.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 02:45 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at March 14, 2023 02:45 PM (ufFY8)
Unacceptable. A Reaper costs about 32 million dollars!
a rogue act? or ordered? not good either way. I think it demonstrates that the Russian military are becoming a gang of hooligans
We really need to start pushing to wind this thing down An example of how dangerous it is.
I agree. Give Ukraine whatever they need to shove Putin's forces back to Russia. And that includes airplanes, even the older ones Poland has had ready to send to Ukraine for a year if they US would agree. Ukrainians already know how to fly those. Dragging this war out benefits no one.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 14, 2023 02:45 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 02:45 PM (ynpvh)
I hope your chains weigh heavy upon you and your master forgets to feed you, Sid.
Posted by: leoncaruthers at March 14, 2023 02:45 PM (UfRqq)
*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*
*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 02:44 PM (LvTSG)
Heh. Do you have that in a macro? Just to save time?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:45 PM (zZu0s)
I believe the part about being early to bed. Just like I believe the part about not getting up till after 9.
I just don't believe the parts about early to rise or being a night owl. The deteriorating old fool is in bed as long as possible so when they wheel out the figurehead, he's as rested as they can get him.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 14, 2023 02:45 PM (N1tpc)
How about lobbing artillery rounds at people who are nominally your own? Is that warrish enough for you or would a few more dead civilaians at the hand of azov, aidar, rightsector or kraken nazis be okay with you?
Posted by: like they wont shoot u.s. civilians whe ordered at March 14, 2023 02:45 PM (89Sog)
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 14, 2023 02:45 PM (JCZqz)
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There's a hot take:
We haven't given enough to Ukraine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Kitchener Lesley at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (CgQvH)
I agree. Putin tells you who he is and doesn't apologize. Biden lies straight to your face and demands you accept.
I want God to destroy Biden and everyone attached to him.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (sI15f)
Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist to the Stars at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (Vu7A1)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (ohFNB)
[Buttigieg] took two months ‘maternity' leave whereupon thousands of travelers were stranded in airports, the air traffic system shut down, and airplanes nearly collided on our runways.
Pete is the only person in human history to have a child and everyone else gets postpartum depression.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (FVME7)
Russia may be bombing Ukraine, but it's not actively trying to make my life worse in the name of Gaia.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 02:45 PM (LvTSG)
Just give it time. Apparently there's nothing Russia can't do.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 02:43 PM (KbCG3)
This. Even after a career in the Navy. No Russian has affected by life ANYWHERE near as much as this administration has.
The Russians are not a threat to my Liberty, but this US Government is.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (oHd/0)
Yes, please.--CCP
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Dr. Jill. Elder Abuse Society President at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:45 PM (zZu0s)
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I should, but no. I don't even have it saved anywhere. I just type it out every time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (LvTSG)
dumped fuel on and flew in front of the MQ-9 in a reckless, environmentally unsound and unprofessional manner
Don't get any oil on the gay pride banner.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (63Dwl)
Still using trigger words to cater to the emotional-language smooth brains.
I'm not sure how it is "unsafe" for an unmanned drone to be clipped by anything. "unprofessional", yep, straight out of the emotional vocabulary tool-box to indicate that some yahoos were joy-riding a pair of stolen Su-27s while sipping on some Purple Drank.
Compare and Contrast when China did the exact same thing to a manned EP3-Orion out on "routine patrol" with a Navy J-8 during "W"s reign of cowardice.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (YXHzG)
Hey, Jack. Good to see you. We were discussing you yesterday.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (bs+z0)
What was it the leftists used to say...?
Patriotism for humanity requires sedition against America. Something like that, right, Sid?
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (BvUNN)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (KbCG3)
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Rig two presidential elections in a row?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 02:47 PM (LvTSG)
Remember the good old days when every Republican President was going to start WW3?
Posted by: YIKES! at March 14, 2023 02:47 PM (t6XCL)
Posted by: NCKate at March 14, 2023 02:47 PM (d5Qya)
Posted by: Just sayin at March 14, 2023 02:47 PM (bewti)
Posted by: DaveA at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Yakov Jerkov at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (lO5WT)
dumped fuel on and flew in front of the MQ-9 in a reckless, environmentally unsound and unprofessional manner
Don't get any oil on the gay pride banner.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (63Dwl)
so basically had his plane take a piss on our drone.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (ynpvh)
Twice.
And Yugoslavia.
The International Criminal Court is going to investigate Russia for "war crimes", including bombing electrical infrastructure in Ukraine.
Fortunately, there is still time to arrest Bill Clinton and George W. Bush for war crimes, since we happily bombed electrical infrastructure in both Yugoslavia and Iraq.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (2tUFv)
Its an environmental crime as evil and depraved as doing donuts on the LGBT flag painted on the street.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (YXHzG)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (ufFY8)
.@PressSec: "The former vice president’s homophobic joke about Secretary Buttigieg was offensive and inappropriate, all the more so because he treated women suffering from postpartum depression as a punchline."
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More pithy: That's not funny!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (UuD2k)
In the fields the bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hour
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees the war pigs crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing spreads his wings
Posted by: Whoa Lord yeah at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (La8Fd)
Posted by: Raytheon at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (h5TKJ)
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I feel like I haven't gotten enough sleep until we go back to normal time next winter.
Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2023 02:44 PM
Makes that a legitimate splash on Russia's part, then.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli)) at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (c9e7b)
Posted by: Dr. T at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (bhRsz)
Posted by: DaveA at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Miss Issippi at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (sI15f)
Concur. They earned it.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (LAno9)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (KbCG3)
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Rig two presidential elections in a row?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 02:47 PM (LvTSG)
Don't give them any ideas!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: runner at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (EeVCB)
That can't be good.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (ZLI7S)
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Probably not a single weed joke was uttered. Probably.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (LvTSG)
As bad as Putin is, Brandon is worse.
Posted by: Kitchener Lesley at March 14, 2023 02:38 PM (CgQvH)
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Putin is bad but he is not "publicly supports cutting the dicks off little boys" bad.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (cMXNt)
“Don’t worry Ivan, that ‘ere hardware is just reapin’ pictures. Now stay away from ‘ma goat an’ no one gets hurt.”
Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (3wNhr)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
Navy Vought F4U Corsair and the McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (DQJX0)
My odds of being shot at by those under orders from Washington D.C. - although small - are still greater than being shot at by those under orders from Moscow.
Posted by: Just The Way It Is at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (Y7B0z)
Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (Y45pj)
Given that the drone is with almost 100% certainty being used to provide intel to Ukraine, that makes the thing a valid military target for Russia.
I'd say attempting to shield Ukranian military assets behind an American flag seems reckless to the point of imcompetence.
Posted by: Sjg at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (Lstct)
Its an environmental crime as evil and depraved as doing donuts on the LGBT flag painted on the street.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (YXHzG)
Or pissing on one.
"Why yes, officer, the yellow needed more color"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (ynpvh)
In other news... https://tinyurl.com/3525p7m8
The government should temporarily insure every bank deposit in the country to shore up confidence in the U.S. financial system, a senior GOP lawmaker said Tuesday.
Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer of Missouri — a top member of the House Financial Services Committee and a former banker — said in an interview that such a move would help the smallest banks as they deal with the fallout of the collapse of regional lenders Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank.
Luetkemeyer is one of the first Republican lawmakers to call for a broad-based deposit guarantee as a remedy for the banking crisis, leaning into a Biden administration response that other GOP politicians have blasted as a bailout. Luetkemeyer is among the House Republicans supporting regulators’ recent actions to contain the banking meltdown, in line with House Financial Services Chair Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.).
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (MFZ8i)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 14, 2023 02:44 PM (eYoxG)
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The balloons were over sovereign territory. The drone was over international waters.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (Rl3IJ)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 14, 2023 02:50 PM (ZPsfc)
Proof that we have spec forces in Ukraine?
Also, there would be no dead Russians if the Russians were actually in, you know, Russia.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 14, 2023 02:50 PM (eOEVl)
We haven't given enough to Ukraine.
We haven't given them nukes yet.
That will be the ultimate demand, of course.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 14, 2023 02:50 PM (2tUFv)
That can't be good.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (ZLI7S)
Oh, I was just saying that making jokes about you would be better if you were here, then remarked that I had not seen you in a while.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:50 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 14, 2023 02:50 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (ohFNB)
The SR-71 is the sexiest plane.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 14, 2023 02:43 PM (iOSQw)
The B-58 Hustler is the sexiest plane.
Posted by: Gref at March 14, 2023 02:50 PM (AMIL/)
That can't be good.
Posted by: JackStraw
Peeps were worried because you were missing.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 02:50 PM (DQJX0)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (ufFY
...or any of the ingredients in Prometheus.
Side effects of Prometheus include: sweaty palms, hot dog fingers...
Ask if Promethius is right for you!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 02:51 PM (ynpvh)
My odds of being shot at by those under orders from Washington D.C. - although small - are still greater than being shot at by those under orders from Moscow.
Posted by: Just The Way It Is at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (Y7B0z)
It was what, 15 months ago where the official White House Christmas card wished death upon my family for not getting vaxxed?
And I owe loyalty to that?
Fuck outta here.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 02:51 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (DQJX0)
Both were mentioned. You have a thing for wing arches, don't you?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:51 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (3wNhr)
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Their underwings can be mounted with sophisticated missiles. Look it up.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 14, 2023 02:51 PM (Rl3IJ)
Rheeeee!!!!!!
Posted by: It's Not Votes, It's Not Ballots, It's Ballots Counted at March 14, 2023 02:51 PM (jV+aN)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 14, 2023 02:51 PM (5X+GU)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (Rl3IJ)
International waters doesn't mean shit to countries that are at war. And trust me, that drone was only downed over international waters. It sure as shit few over Russian territory at some point.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 14, 2023 02:51 PM (UuD2k)
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 14, 2023 02:51 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: jack ryan at March 14, 2023 02:52 PM (QHHec)
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I'm pretty sure that Brandon hates and fears me more than Vlad.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 02:52 PM (FVME7)
Proof that we have spec forces in Ukraine?
Also, there would be no dead Russians if the Russians were actually in, you know, Russia.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 14, 2023 02:50 PM (eOEVl)
I mean if you're down with using drones to help kill Russians, it's kind of whiny to complain about how environmentally unsound it is when the Russians take down the drone.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 14, 2023 02:52 PM (eYoxG)
It's playing spotter. I think it already came out some time ago we were feeding the Ukrainians targeting data.
Maybe we owe the Chinese an apology about their spy balloon if that isn't kosher?"
You're a lot smarter than that. This was in international airspace and surveillance is key to a lot of military operations and force protection. Attacks on military assets international airspace can be considered an act of war. This has also been Russia's MO for years, irrespective of Ukraine. By the way, I wonder what all those Russian assets were doing when we were fighting in The Middle East and AFG. And the ones still doing that where we have forces deployed? Maybe we should oopsy bump them into the ground. Don't be so obtuse.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2023 02:52 PM (Y45pj)
Uh, Russian combat pilot. Looks like he did exactly what he wanted to do. Pretty professional IMO.
You know how we used to knock out V1 Missiles headed to England? Yeah, we'd tip them on the wing.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2023 02:52 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (3wNhr)
Don't think reaper of wheat. Think Reaper of Lives.
Posted by: Gref at March 14, 2023 02:52 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Sjg
Contrary to what some folks here say, the US is doing everything they can to attack Russia short of pulling the trigger themselves.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 14, 2023 02:53 PM (lTGtQ)
I very much doubt anyone on this site argues that the Biden admin is who we want in charge.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 14, 2023 02:53 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2023 02:53 PM (ZbN2M)
Before 7AM, no Defcons allowed.
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 14, 2023 02:53 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:50 PM (zZu0s)
Well yeah, they're better but presence is still not necessary..
Posted by: Just sayin at March 14, 2023 02:53 PM (bewti)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 14, 2023 02:53 PM (iOSQw)
Well that was nice but all is well. Unfortunately, now that we've gotten some of our funding done I'm actually expected to work from time to time.
Seems unfair but so far my plan to get paid without working has not panned out.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2023 02:53 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 14, 2023 02:51 PM
Yep, that drone was gathering real time intel for the Ukraine Army to pinpoint targets for the HIMARS artillery systems we gave them.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 14, 2023 02:53 PM (uNylN)
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2023 02:53 PM (BvUNN)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 14, 2023 02:53 PM (+68Ze)
That can't be good.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM
We were talking about smoking pot so your name came up naturally.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 02:53 PM (oE0yX)
Sometimes - when Uncle Sam calls - the only sane answer is to hang up.
Posted by: Just The Way It Is at March 14, 2023 02:53 PM (Y7B0z)
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 14, 2023 02:53 PM (0chEi)
Posted by: ... at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM (BXxcV)
You're overthinking this. One "influencer" adding it their bio is all it would take. The fact that the word went out to all the DNC shills just meant it happened faster.
NPCs don't reason what they do. The alpha sheep wanders left, they wander left.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 14, 2023 02:54 PM (zhLdt)
Posted by: Surellin at March 14, 2023 02:54 PM (uRxqt)
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Have you seen the size of the intakes on the SR 71 - boomba boomba I mean how can it fly with those things up front like that. . .
Posted by: Vast intakes at March 14, 2023 02:54 PM (GlYT3)
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 14, 2023 02:54 PM (MvF+J)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (UuD2k)
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We think alike.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 14, 2023 02:54 PM (cMXNt)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:45 PM (zZu0s)
A shame the XB-70 died in a kiln accident.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at March 14, 2023 02:54 PM (ZSK0i)
Posted by: Gref at March 14, 2023 02:50 PM (AMIL/)
You are as high as Jack.
https://is.gd/rwmWAp
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:54 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Aetius451AD
I'd give my left nut for a Navy F4U Corsair. Love the gull wing look. The cowls along side the body on the Phantom just make it look mean. Like a pit bull.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 02:54 PM (DQJX0)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 14, 2023 02:54 PM (Xrfse)
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Yeah, I don't remember Russia developing a biological weapon to unleash on the entire world, and then using it as an excuse to close my church and workspaces.
Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2023 02:54 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 14, 2023 02:54 PM (0chEi)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2023 02:55 PM (DcKNO)
We haven't given enough to Ukraine.
We haven't given them nukes yet.
That will be the ultimate demand, of course.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 14, 2023 02:50 PM (2tUFv)
Yesterday for "International Day," our college hosted a guest speaker from the Ukraine (well, she's been here 20 years so I guess she's Ukrainian-American now). The speech was fine, but she complained at one point that Ukraine had once had the world's 3rd-largest nuclear arsenal and had been forced to give it all up.
Feels like testing the waters.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 14, 2023 02:55 PM (bhRsz)
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 14, 2023 02:51 PM (eGTCV)
One suffering jet-lag.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 02:55 PM (ynpvh)
As per my @183, we agree on that.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 14, 2023 02:55 PM (eOEVl)
It can sit on top of the "Russians bombed the Nordstream pipeline" report.
Posted by: Azathoth at March 14, 2023 02:55 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: Skip at March 14, 2023 02:55 PM (xhxe8)
Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (3wNhr)
Don't think reaper of wheat. Think Reaper of Lives.
Posted by: Gref at March 14, 2023 02:52 PM (AMIL/)
Grim view
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 02:55 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 14, 2023 02:55 PM (eGTCV)
Keep it simple. It'll help more.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at March 14, 2023 02:55 PM (aXxgO)
uh huh. We're also in a war with Russia. Is Russia required to pretend we're not in a war? A Biden official just said the quiet part out loud last week or the week before and declared that WE, the US, are fighting Russia in Ukraine.
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (BvUNN)
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After that 3:00 a.m. phone call ringing finally woke the heavily-drugged F.Joe up, he answered the class of Polident in which his dentures were soaking.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (tUYq1)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 14, 2023 02:48 PM (ufFY
...or any of the ingredients in Prometheus.
Side effects of Prometheus include: sweaty palms, hot dog fingers...
Ask if Promethius is right for you!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 02:51 PM (ynpvh)
if you have a Prometheus that lasts more than 4 hours....
Posted by: Just sayin at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (bewti)
Feels like testing the waters.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 14, 2023 02:55 PM (bhRsz)
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Next time, get a treaty out of disarming yourself.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (LvTSG)
They really do want WWIII. They want it, and they want it *now.*
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 02:54 PM (DQJX0)
I like the tail that goes out over the engine exhaust on the Phantom. Sexy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (zZu0s)
Naturally. Because someone who gets up after Dork Brandon has poisoned my reputation with vicious lies.
I will have my revenge in this life of the next.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 14, 2023 02:51 PM
You'd have to ask the DOJ and FIB.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (oE0yX)
https://tinyurl.com/5xzkpt8t
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (MvF+J)
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They did not appreciate our targeting their forces, no doubt. And the fuel dump likely took the drone out of service - giving them an operational window. (Its probably not the first time its been done. Probably a standard tactic.) The bump was probably an accident and the drone getting downed was what precipitated the public report.
Posted by: its a guess at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (RJkSH)
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Right up until Russia stopped Gays in the U.S. from adopting Russian babies.
That was the moment the left decided to try and start nuclear war with them.
Posted by: Trainwreck: Billions of people stuck with a broken immune response at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (ylp2r)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 14, 2023 02:57 PM (ohFNB)
I very much doubt anyone on this site argues that the Biden admin is who we want in charge.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 14, 2023 02:53 PM (eOEVl)
Targeting data is beyond supporting and supplying a proxy war. It's one step short of shooting Russians ourselves. Same sort of line-crossing as Nordstream.
And most of us here aren't interested in a war with Russia.
And that the US isn't covering up but advertising this suggests a strong interest in the administration of escalating things.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 14, 2023 02:57 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Darth Randall at March 14, 2023 02:57 PM (jTE6Y)
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 14, 2023 02:53 PM (0chEi)
Now? Down/Out
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 02:57 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 14, 2023 02:57 PM (0chEi)
Wouldn't a drone have LESS fuel, etc.
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Wait, freaking second.
These are the people that blew up Nord Stream.
Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2023 02:57 PM (kOpft)
https://is.gd/cOU2Oz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 14, 2023 02:57 PM (t0OGg)
They really do want WWIII. They want it, and they want it *now.*
They think the nukes will go off over flyover country and the coasts will be spared.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 14, 2023 02:57 PM (Bd6X8)
They really do want WWIII. They want it, and they want it *now.*
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (t0OGg)
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Deescalation through escalation.
They are truly Sherman's children.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 02:57 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 02:57 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Puddleglum at March 14, 2023 02:32 PM (sAmhv)
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I remember four years ago my then 8th grade son asked me if Trump was going to get us into a war (I imagine he asked because that's probably what he heard at school). I told him no chance. If he were to ask today I don't think I could tell him the same thing.
Posted by: Turn two at March 14, 2023 02:57 PM (JfxgE)
Biden Says He Had An “Epiphany” And Began Supporting Gay Marriage In High School
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 02:57 PM (FVME7)
you're not following the Grateful Dead around the country just for the music, that's a given
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2023 02:58 PM (BvUNN)
https://is.gd/rwmWAp
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:54 PM (zZu0s)
That didn't take long.
Posted by: Just sayin at March 14, 2023 02:58 PM (bewti)
I will have my revenge in this life of the next.
But first I will smoke a bowl. - Jack
Posted by: now you know the rest of the story at March 14, 2023 02:58 PM (RJkSH)
Sorry that the military has been, and is now being used by these monsters. Yes, their recruitment is low because they have been found out.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 14, 2023 02:58 PM (uQPen)
Posted by: Gref at March 14, 2023 02:50 PM (AMIL/)
You are as high as Jack.
https://is.gd/rwmWAp
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:54 PM (zZu0s)
The B-58 ain't no goose-necked drooping wing aircraft. And it could be polished to a gleaming shine.
:-)
Posted by: Gref at March 14, 2023 02:58 PM (AMIL/)
You mean like the Budapest Memorandum, in which Russia recognized Ukraine's borders as of 1994?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 14, 2023 02:58 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 14, 2023 02:58 PM (4kL7R)
They really do want WWIII. They want it, and they want it *now.*
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (t0OGg)
Something needs to distract from the Biden corruption stuff coming out.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2023 02:58 PM (oHd/0)
They really do want WWIII. They want it, and they want it *now.*
They think the nukes will go off over flyover country and the coasts will be spared.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 14, 2023 02:57 PM (Bd6X
Consider the calculus here:
In times of war, doesn't the incumbent party usually maintain or grow control?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 02:58 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: ace
Hell, a Canadian official just said that the war won't be over until the Russian government is gone.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 14, 2023 02:58 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2023 02:55 PM (DcKNO)
I think Mark Twain said something along those lines.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 02:58 PM (ynpvh)
But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops.
Uh, depending on the breaks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcK6ad_t9ak
Posted by: General "Buck" Turgidson! at March 14, 2023 02:58 PM (2tUFv)
Whose in charge? It's like the mob in that each group has created a carve out of operations, sure $, little accountability, and with much less personality to boot.
Posted by: Lola - free Jacob Chansley at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM (GshMh)
So you believe the junta no matter how many times they lie to you.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM (YXHzG)
I don't think they have thought it through that far. People who live in that area are steely-bubbled adult children who have faced no consequences in their life for any actions. They do not connect effect with cause.
They only think "Russia bad" because their programming has set them to say that, so we must do things to stop bad Russia. Its NPC level "thought," there's nothing deeper in it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM (0hOvj)
https://tinyurl.com/5xzkpt8t
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (MvF+J)
Damn. That is like the Lena Dunham of fighters.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM (LAno9)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 02:54 PM (DQJX0)
I like the tail that goes out over the engine exhaust on the Phantom. Sexy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM
For piston. Give me a B-17. Not sexy but cool AF. A1 Skyraider.
The F-14 Tomcat is pretty damn sexy for a jet like a supermodel or even the Hornet. Then again I think the A-10 Warthog is sexy. Not the prettiest girl in the bar, but she looks like fun.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM (oE0yX)
We haven't given enough to Ukraine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 02:46 PM (LvTSG)
These people are insane. Cosplaying war hawks. They have zero idea what will happen when the shit actually hits the fan.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM (NgqoH)
Properly fought, a good world war would be 100% sustainable.
Posted by: t-bird at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM (CaJIi)
It's nearly Spring and the fashion shows have started.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM (5X+GU)
Confucius say Rome wasn't built in a day, and Ewok pelt isn't groomed in an hour.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM (a3Q+t)
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We're only discussing the first because of the second.
He started the war.
Posted by: Trainwreck: Billions of people stuck with a broken immune response at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM (ylp2r)
Damn, I can't believe it took that long for this joke to appear. I am ashamed.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM (eOEVl)
That was the moment the left decided to try and start nuclear war with them.
yes their refusal to bow to Globohomo shot them to the top of the charts, right past all those muslim countries that do the same or more -- must be the white privilege
Posted by: brak at March 14, 2023 03:00 PM (lO5WT)
Also, there would be no dead Russians if the Russians were actually in, you know, Russia.
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Yeah, thee reaper drone itself is evidence of their presence.
And the Russian troops largely *are* in Russia. There was a vote and everything. And a peace offer. But Kiev and its masters in DC want more war, so there's more war.
Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2023 03:00 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Eromero at March 14, 2023 03:00 PM (MF3yS)
Posted by: MikeG at March 14, 2023 03:00 PM (VsUo2)
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Helluva campaign slogan. Sexually mutilate your children then send them to die in Ukraine!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 03:00 PM (FVME7)
****
I said all through the Trump years that if Putin walked out and announced that he was putting the band back together and restarting the Soviet Union that the resulting whiplash by the Left in the United States would knock the Earth's axis off by several degrees.
Posted by: Azathoth at March 14, 2023 03:00 PM (wb1YC)
In times of war, doesn't the incumbent party usually maintain or grow control?
The FBI is raring to go to arrest all of you traitors!
Posted by: The Biden Administration! at March 14, 2023 03:00 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 14, 2023 03:00 PM (ZPsfc)
We've invited ourselves to the family reunion and gotten surprised when big brother stops arguing with little brother for a minute and turns towards us and says "F*ck off".
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 14, 2023 03:00 PM (WentF)
https://tinyurl.com/5xzkpt8t
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (MvF+J)
OMG. And a smile on that big 'ol mouth to boot.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 03:00 PM (ynpvh)
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If by strong interest you mean: "I've already worn out two sybians", then yes Yes. There is strong interest. *unnghhhhhhhhhhhhhh*
Posted by: Victoria Nuland at March 14, 2023 03:00 PM (48uIq)
Damn, I can't believe it took that long for this joke to appear. I am ashamed.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM (eOEVl)
Not enough cow bell...
Posted by: Heavy Meta at March 14, 2023 03:00 PM (NgqoH)
Ethnic Russians don't count? Then I guess it's okay if the ukronazis murder their own people?
Damn you're a fucking tool.
Posted by: Yeah. You at March 14, 2023 03:00 PM (89Sog)
Posted by: Charlemagne at March 14, 2023 03:01 PM (mR6Gs)
You mean like the Budapest Memorandum, in which Russia recognized Ukraine's borders as of 1994?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 14, 2023 02:58 PM (eOEVl)
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All international agreements are subject to the whims of those in power, but treaties actually have the advantage of being seen as pretty serious things.
Memos written by diplomats without the backing of the people's representatives? Yeah...should have seen that one coming for sure.
I do not care about this war. This war is an excuse to enrich the elite and nothing else. People are dying to fatten the bank accounts of Ukrainian officials, American officials, and Russian officials. The little people suffer. And I still don't care. This is a handful of feudal lords fighting over land rights.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:01 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 14, 2023 03:01 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: SMOD at March 14, 2023 03:01 PM (RHGPo)
They want WW II and the Cold War - at least as they remember it and see it through the lens of Hollywood. They want generations of Americans that just shut the fuck up and do as they are told - because "Russians". Of this - I am certain.
They tried rolling out vague enemies - like Climate Change and Covid and Domestic Terrorism. They decided they need a more tangible enemy. Of this I am certain as well.
Posted by: Just The Way It Is at March 14, 2023 03:01 PM (Y7B0z)
Feels like testing the waters.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 14, 2023 02:55 PM (bhRsz)
Who did they give them to ?
Posted by: JT at March 14, 2023 03:01 PM (T4tVD)
Yeah, thee reaper drone itself is evidence of their presence.
So......no.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 14, 2023 03:01 PM (eOEVl)
They recklessly ran into our flak!
Posted by: t-bird at March 14, 2023 03:01 PM (CaJIi)
unsafe, yea, but "unprofessional"? Not in their vocabulary, nor vernacular.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 14, 2023 03:01 PM (uQPen)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at March 14, 2023 02:34 PM (0vFtj)
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Joined by James Taylor to issue Putin a warning by singing "Fire and Rain."
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 14, 2023 03:02 PM (fh5qa)
They really do want WWIII. They want it, and they want it *now.*
Willowed in last thread -
Z-Man said months ago he won't stop fighting until the Russians are out of all Ukrainian territory, including Crimea. So what does Biden mean when he says the US will support Ukraine for as long as it takes? Getting the Russians back to the February 24, 2022 border? And removing Russian troops and the pro-Russian governments in Uke territory held by them pre-Feb. 2022? And re-taking Crimea? And regime change in Russia? When will Biden be satisfied? Biden has created a world-class political/military mess.
Posted by: Gref at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM
Posted by: Gref at March 14, 2023 03:02 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: brak at March 14, 2023 03:00 PM (lO5WT)
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It was a supply chain problem, not an ideological one.
The Slavic world is the origin point for a huge amount of the underage slave trade. Russia cracking down on it - and the "no more American gays adopting kids" was only one front in it - dealt a meaningful blow. So did Trump's anti-trafficking efforts.
I don't think they took out Trump *because* he went after their slave trade, but it was probably a factor in it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 14, 2023 03:02 PM (t0OGg)
She knows who she will be voting for in the next election cycle
Posted by: SMOD at March 14, 2023 03:02 PM (RHGPo)
Biden Says He Had An “Epiphany” And Began Supporting Gay Marriage In High School
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Yep.
Saw two perfectly normal looking straight-laced white men in suits kissing each other goodbye as he was dropped off in front of school in Scranton, PA in the '60s.
Complete truth. My word as a Biden.
Posted by: Trainwreck: Billions of people stuck with a broken immune response at March 14, 2023 03:02 PM (ylp2r)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM
A Thai bar, maybe. Pilots call the Warthog "Ugly, but well-hung."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 14, 2023 03:02 PM (a3Q+t)
Biden Says He Had An “Epiphany” And Began Supporting Gay Marriage In High School
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 02:57 PM (FVME7)
I don't think even straight High Schoolers should be getting married...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 03:02 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: JoeF. at March 14, 2023 03:02 PM (mR6Gs)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 14, 2023 03:02 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM (oE0yX)
This is a good take. Like one you are not sure of. You go out on a date... and you wake up the next morning like you have been thrown in the dryer and went through 3 cycles.
'Where did this road rash come from?'*
*this actually happened to me once.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 03:02 PM (zZu0s)
They really do want WWIII. They want it, and they want it *now.*
They think the nukes will go off over flyover country and the coasts will be spared.
Posted by: Blanco Basura
I hope the Russkies realize that the noncriminal adults are in flyover country and would close down this shit show pdq should they do us the favor of nuking the coastal blue shitholes.
Not saying i aporove of that action, but i would understand.
Posted by: BifBewalski at March 14, 2023 03:02 PM (3CCua)
Now do Minsk I and II, along with the Normandy conference.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 14, 2023 03:02 PM (OTzUX)
"Okay. You'll be in power forever, right? Right?!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:02 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Eromero at March 14, 2023 03:02 PM (MF3yS)
You mean like the Budapest Memorandum, in which Russia recognized Ukraine's borders as of 1994?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 14, 2023 02:58 PM (eOEVl)
Treaty is like pie crust.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 03:03 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Minnfidel
She'll take you home, wear your ass out, and drop you back off at the bar.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:03 PM (DQJX0)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
"Lets have a nuclear exchange."
Two hours later..
"What was that sound, and why is facebook down?"
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 14, 2023 03:03 PM (lTGtQ)
So pathetic. So embarrassing.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 14, 2023 03:03 PM (uQPen)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2023 03:04 PM (DcKNO)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 02:57 PM (FVME7)
Biden graduated HS in 1961.
There was hardly anyone on the planet who gave same sex marriage a serious thought---least of all high school boys.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 14, 2023 03:04 PM (mR6Gs)
They should have a comic strip based on the Warthog. Like the Warthog would be involved with relationships and how to deal with conflicts.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 14, 2023 03:04 PM (5X+GU)
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 14, 2023 02:45 PM (JCZqz)
So the people at DU honestly believe that Ukraine, with only materiel support, would be able to defeat Russia? No doubt they simultaneously believe that Russia is the greatest threat in the world AND that Russia would just sit there and let us supply Ukraine without poking back at the same time.
These people really are stupid.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 14, 2023 03:04 PM (zhLdt)
Trump somehow wins in 2024 (just follow me TJM).
Within weeks of his inauguration, he negotiates a peace that ends the Russia-Ukraine war.
Every lib in the world would simultaneously greet this peace treaty with a hearty, "I told you he was owned by Putin!"
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (76ryq)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (FVME7)
Romeo13 gets the win on this one. We were monitoring Russian ships and letting the Ukes know when and where they would be in range.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli)) at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (c9e7b)
Posted by: Gref
+++++++
Grim view
Posted by: jim
********
Heaving a scythe of relief.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (ykeLU)
In times of war, doesn't the incumbent party usually maintain or grow control?
The FBI is raring to go to arrest all of you traitors!
Posted by: The Biden Administration! at March 14, 2023 03:00 PM (2tUFv)
Is reciting the Bill of Rights a jailable offense during war-time like it was under the Wilson Administration?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (ynpvh)
Nobody who was straight-certainly not a guy who graduated high school in what ? the middle 1960's- supported gay marrage. Another fabrication from old Joe or his handlers.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (FUVRY)
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (ZSK0i)
So, when he made statements against gay marriage, all those years... he was lying?
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (eGTCV)
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And various officials in Nato countries, Canada yesterday, keep talking about how the goal of it all is regime change in Russia.
Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (kOpft)
Damn, I miss him.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (zZu0s)
Complete truth. My word as a Biden.
Posted by: Trainwreck: Billions of people stuck with a broken immune response at March 14, 2023 03:02 PM (ylp2r)
I grew up outside of Scranton. Even in the late 70s early 80s that would not have never, ever happened. Biden is flat out lying.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (NgqoH)
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Maybe. I actually think it was just an accident. Hillary needed something nefarious on Trump to offset her criminal email abuse. So the whole Russians are behind Trump thing was created out of thin air. The Russians being the enemy that defined being right-wing in this country for years. Even Romney thought so as recently as 2012. If Russians are behind Trump, then he would lose a lot of support in the Repub party. She was right, up to a point, a lot of the establishment R's bought the lies and still think Trump and Russia are aligned and that Russia is enemy #1. But the base and the Trump voting former Dems didn't care and were focussed on how to improve this country instead. Hillary and the left are now all in on Russia as enemy #1 and can't or won't back off on it.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Skip at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (xhxe8)
You don't want people "learning" that lesson
Posted by: Greg the Class Traitor at March 14, 2023 03:04 PM (bZ64u)
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It might be a better assumption to think that only countries with nukes have safe borders in general. An armed society is a polite society.
Hell NK has had nukes for how long, and they've never used them?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2023 02:53 PM (ZLI7S)
Yeah that's somewhat of a drawback when a person is employed.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (BdMk6)
Ace should have been better
Be better ace
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger at March 14, 2023 03:06 PM (VTu1l)
2) I smell a small-mind "Capture the news cycle" play. The House finally gets Biden foreign banking documents. Can't have that as top billing news.
3) This is not a serious administration.
Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2023 03:06 PM (rj6Yv)
They tried rolling out vague enemies - like Climate Change and Covid and Domestic Terrorism. They decided they need a more tangible enemy. Of this I am certain as well.
Posted by: Just The Way It Is at March 14, 2023 03:01 PM (Y7B0z)
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It's almost as if the goofy, laughable "Russia! Russia! Russia!" hoax was part of a larger & planned PsyOp ... or something.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 14, 2023 03:06 PM (fh5qa)
In 1994, Ukraine, citing due its inability to circumvent Russian launch codes, reached an understanding to transfer and destroy these weapons, and become a party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT).
In exchange for giving up its nuclear weapons, Ukraine received financial compensation, as well as the security assurances of the Budapest Memorandum from United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Seems like a stupid deal about now
Posted by: SMOD at March 14, 2023 03:06 PM (RHGPo)
Romeo13 gets the win on this one. We were monitoring Russian ships and letting the Ukes know when and where they would be in range.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli)) at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (c9e7b)
And knocked down in waters where it can be recovered... vice shot down.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2023 03:06 PM (oHd/0)
that's an interesting point
two of Ukraine's biggest "under the table" exports are laundered money and sex slaves/human trafficking, so yes we can definitely see the left's interests there
Posted by: brak at March 14, 2023 03:07 PM (lO5WT)
well not the college kids' vocabulary, but its part of the class cant of the uneducated college-graduates that make up the Democrat Party's Middle Management & Bureaucrat Jihadi Corps.
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2023 03:07 PM (BvUNN)
They should have a comic strip based on the Warthog.
Like the Warthog would be involved with relationships and how to deal with conflicts.
Posted by: humphreyrobot
Warthog go bbbbbrrrrrrtttttttt. Conflict over.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:07 PM (DQJX0)
Posted by: Archer at March 14, 2023 03:07 PM (gmo/4)
At that point, the left became the absolute most unhinged of Dr. Strangelove level Russia hawks, and began attacking anyone who didn't now want to start a nuclear exchange with Russia a "RUSSIAN AGENT."
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (BvUNN)
The Left began to turn on Russia a few years earlier upon Putin enraging Globohomo by signing legislation banning the adoption of Russian children by homosexual couples in 2013.
Posted by: Skwisgaar S. at March 14, 2023 03:07 PM (DTX3h)
Seems like a stupid deal about now
Posted by: SMOD at March 14, 2023 03:06 PM (RHGPo)
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"The guy on the other side of town swears that he'll come gunning if my neighbor decides to invade my house? Where do I sign up?!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:07 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 14, 2023 03:07 PM (DTX3h)
||HIGH STAKES Dramatic moment Russian fighter jets intercept US spy plane over Black Sea as tensions rise and experts fear escalation
Frances Mulraney; The U.S. Sun; Published: 10:03 ET, Jul 14 2021 Updated: 10:11 ET, Jul 14 2021
A US spy plane was dramatically intercepted by Russian fighter jets over the Black Sea on Tuesday as experts fear violent escalation amid rising tensions between the US and Russia.||
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (Vwz3I)
They are but the media won't show it.
Posted by: DJ at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (H5y4s)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (ohFNB)
Wait until the conversation turns to sexy cars . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (iFTx/)
That was a good line Ace.
Thank you for for your coverage of the Drone of Tonkin.
Posted by: .87c at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (qBu05)
https://bit.ly/3JEqwfv
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (FVME7)
No Fokkers.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (ynpvh)
Always fun to see an ex white house spokes hole take a job in the media and continue being the spokes hole.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (0Qrr3)
Oh, shit.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (DcKNO)
They think the nukes will go off over flyover country and the coasts will be spared.
Posted by: Blanco Basura
If worst came to worst, the Most Special People would probably be jetted off to a secret bunker in time, but all the Antifa goons, Deep State operatives, Suburban Wine Moms, and non-binary TikTokers who make up their base? They'd be bits of fallout over the coasts.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (bhRsz)
Posted by: just fed-up with the ineptitude at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (Uy/WF)
None of that makes Russia invading the country okay. There's no defense for that, even if you're a Russian angrily typing on sites like this. It was WRONG to do so, by every standard for like 600 years.
That doesn't mean we should get involved or that Ukraine is okay; they're both bad guys and we should wash our hands of it beyond some sanctions against Russia.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (0hOvj)
I'm waiting for a reprise into that crazy cancer rinsing of oil of his dear mother's old car. Imagine, oil so thick in the air we had to use our windshield wipers to get the oil off... just to be able to see going down the street -- for God's sake!!
Posted by: micky at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (3byMq)
Posted by: Gref
+++++++
Grim view
Posted by: jim
********
Heaving a scythe of relief.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (ykeLU)
LOL. No bones about it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Drider at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (R/UH9)
Damn, I miss him.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Dad was that way. He was in bed every night by 9:30. Miss is an understatement.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:09 PM (DQJX0)
Posted by: just fed-up with the ineptitude at March 14, 2023 03:09 PM (Uy/WF)
In 1994, Ukraine, citing due its inability to circumvent Russian launch codes, reached an understanding to transfer and destroy these weapons, and become a party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT).
In exchange for giving up its nuclear weapons, Ukraine received financial compensation, as well as the security assurances of the Budapest Memorandum from United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Seems like a stupid deal about now
Posted by: SMOD at March 14, 2023 03:06 PM (RHGPo)
Now it's filled with bioweaponry labs.
I believe Kennedy Jr mentions how many in this vid w Dore.
Video Proves Joe Rogan WAS RIGHT About Bill Gates!
https://tinyurl.com/285n4ncx
Makes your blood boil.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 14, 2023 03:09 PM (uQPen)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 14, 2023 03:09 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Sjg at March 14, 2023 02:49 PM (Lstct)
Anyone who is still pounding their chest over how we need to stick it to #RUSSIAMANBAD isn't going to be moved by reality.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 14, 2023 03:09 PM (zhLdt)
Democrats ALWAYS accuse their opponents, of what they are actually doing. Hillary, Uranium One scandal. Blatant corrupt ties to Russia.
So...
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2023 03:09 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 14, 2023 03:09 PM (Q4IgG)
Banking System downgraded and now Russian A/C attacking US A/C in broad day light and laughing about it !!!!
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at March 14, 2023 03:09 PM (0vFtj)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at March 14, 2023 03:09 PM (0Qrr3)
So, when he made statements against gay marriage, all those years... he was lying?
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2023 03:05 PM (oHd/0)
I'm afraid you'll have to take pills for that for the rest of your lives--Pfizer
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 03:09 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Eromero at March 14, 2023 03:02 PM
Hordified.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 14, 2023 03:09 PM (a3Q+t)
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The funniest Peppermint Patty story I know is that they were discussing removing cattle guards in Colorado and she insisted that we retrain them.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 03:09 PM (FVME7)
I thought theys/thems were all’s anti-war
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger at March 14, 2023 03:10 PM (VTu1l)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 14, 2023 03:10 PM (44ww/)
Posted by: Drider
Also curious how a jet can slow down slow enough to go toe to toe with a prop plane.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:10 PM (DQJX0)
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2023 03:07 PM (BvUNN)
true enough
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 14, 2023 03:10 PM (uQPen)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 14, 2023 03:10 PM (UuD2k)
Doesn't she mean "birthing people"? Why isn't she being canceled?
Posted by: DJ at March 14, 2023 03:10 PM (H5y4s)
https://bit.ly/3JEqwfv
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
Especially in a banking turn.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 14, 2023 03:10 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Chop Suey at March 14, 2023 03:10 PM (pkNYz)
I thought theys/thems were all’s anti-war
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger at March 14, 2023 03:10 PM (VTu1l)
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It was always a partisan exercise used to attack enemies of the far left?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:10 PM (LvTSG)
*******
I have gazed in my barrel of fucks to give, and behold, it is empty
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger at March 14, 2023 03:10 PM (VTu1l)
Professionally too. Don't forget it was done professionally.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 14, 2023 03:10 PM (YXHzG)
What he meant was "in a high school, groping a Freshman girl"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:10 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 14, 2023 03:11 PM (YXHzG)
- Corporate greed causes inflation
- Price controls are an effective way of “controlling” said inflation
- The minimum wage is a free lunch to low-skilled workers
- Racial discrimination is costless to the discriminator
- China is “beating” us at trade
- Profits are a wealth “transfer” from consumers to producers
- Prices are arbitrary and “set” by sellers
- Rent control expands housing availability for the poorest
- Trade or immigrants “steal” domestic jobs
- Women earn less than men for performing the same work
- Capitalism degrades the environment
- Material standards of living are falling in industrialized societies
- Monopolists can charge whatever they want
- Our economy is positively bristling with said monopolists
- Socialism generates higher living standards and more equitable economic outcomes than capitalism
Each of these statements is demonstrably false
Posted by: SMOD at March 14, 2023 03:11 PM (RHGPo)
What he meant was "in a high school, groping a Freshman girl"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:10 PM (0hOvj)
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10 years ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:11 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 03:09 PM (FVME7)
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So she's as stupid as that Patty Murray in WA? All Dem women in politics are pretty stupid.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2023 03:11 PM (DcKNO)
Excellent nic!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (KbCG3)
I was responding to something GMILF-related comment earlier at some point. heh
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 14, 2023 03:11 PM (DTX3h)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (0hOvj)
OK, so now explain why we STILL have troops in Syria?
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2023 03:11 PM (oHd/0)
https://tinyurl.com/5xzkpt8t
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (MvF+J)
Damn. That is like the Lena Dunham of fighters.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM (zZu0s)
This baby could be the Lena Dunham/Janet Yellen/Whoopi Goldberg/Tank Abrams of fighters - the XF-85 Goblin parasite fighter for the B-36
https://tinyurl.com/5n8p8wzj
Posted by: Gref at March 14, 2023 03:11 PM (AMIL/)
Banking System downgraded and now Russian A/C attacking US A/C in broad day light and laughing about it !!!!
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at March 14, 2023 03:09 PM
Let me be clear, it's not my fault you all underestimated him.
Posted by: Barack "The Lightbringer" Obama at March 14, 2023 03:11 PM (a3Q+t)
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So they’re not anti-war out of pure principle?
No
I shan’t believe it
My believing is shanted
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger at March 14, 2023 03:12 PM (VTu1l)
The Predator drones are not like the little ones you attach your Go Pro to. They are HUGE, the size of ordinary aircraft.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:12 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at March 14, 2023 03:12 PM (0vFtj)
Each of these statements is demonstrably false
Posted by: SMOD at March 14, 2023 03:11 PM (RHGPo)
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It's fun to read that one and then place it up against all the modern day socialists screaming about how we have to make ourselves poor for Gaia.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:12 PM (LvTSG)
2) I smell a small-mind "Capture the news cycle" play. The House finally gets Biden foreign banking documents. Can't have that as top billing news.
3) This is not a serious administration.
Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2023 03:06 PM (rj6Yv)
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Good instincts -- expect to see a Predator drone to collide with a Chinese "weather" spy balloon if a further "Squirrel!" is required.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 14, 2023 03:12 PM (z0sRI)
'Where did this road rash come from?'*
*this actually happened to me once.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 03:02 PM
I think we are related. LOL.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 03:12 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: Drider at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (R/UH9)
chaff, bullets and missiles?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 03:12 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: wth at March 14, 2023 03:12 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Weasel at March 14, 2023 03:13 PM (RG6z4)
Kamala: ...and I was that dude.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 14, 2023 03:13 PM (44ww/)
Posted by: wth at March 14, 2023 03:12 PM (v0R5T)
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We'll be home by Christmas.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:13 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2023 02:42 PM (BvUNN)
Has that changed I wonder
Posted by: ... at March 14, 2023 03:13 PM (3gpMQ)
I did. I absolutely did tell you all.
Posted by: Jugears the dog eater at March 14, 2023 03:13 PM (G3WUz)
It doesn't matter whether you think Putin is right or wrong what matters is what he thinks and he has been quite clear for over a decade that move to admit Georgia or Ukraine would result in war. When George Bush made overtures to bring Georgia into NATO Putin invaded Georgia. When the braindead muppet currently occupying the White House made the same overtures to Ukraine, a country we had already run a coup in and took down a pro-Russian government, Putin invaded.
This really shouldn't come as a surprise. Putin has red lines that he actually enforces.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2023 03:13 PM (ZLI7S)
We have troops all over the world where they don't belong and should never have been sent and never got congressional approval for sending. Now I think the law that requires congressional approval for declaring war is sketchy constitutionally, but its the law.
I mean, if your argument is that it was okay for Russia to invade Ukraine because the US does it, I don't know who you are fighting with because there's not a damned person here who supported invading Syria.
The US doing bad stuff doesn't make Russia doing bad stuff okay.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:13 PM (0hOvj)
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The funniest Peppermint Patty story I know is that they were discussing removing cattle guards in Colorado and she insisted that we retrain them.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 03:09 PM (FVME7)
maybe with some hard hammering they could do something else...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 03:13 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: wth at March 14, 2023 03:14 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 14, 2023 03:14 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 14, 2023 03:14 PM (5X+GU)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 14, 2023 03:14 PM (ohFNB)
Posted by: Drider at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (R/UH9)
It was probably hit by machine gun fire or whatever it is jets shoot these days
That will come out later
Posted by: JoeF. at March 14, 2023 03:14 PM (mR6Gs)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at March 14, 2023 03:14 PM (0vFtj)
And assured it wasn't a M-60 that was used.
Posted by: Skip at March 14, 2023 03:14 PM (xhxe8)
They desperately wanted $$$. The nukes were of no real use, other than as trade goods. So the deal made perfect sense at the time, which is the only way to assess them. And they still do.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 14, 2023 03:14 PM (OTzUX)
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Each of these statements is demonstrably false
Posted by: SMOD at March 14, 2023 03:11 PM (RHGPo)
AOC economics
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 03:15 PM (ynpvh)
War with whom, though? I mean, did he say "if you expand NATO into Poland, I'm going to war with Poland"?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:15 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2023 03:15 PM (DcKNO)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at March 14, 2023 03:14 PM (0vFtj)
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It's the seriousness of the charge that's important, not proof.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:15 PM (LvTSG)
https://tinyurl.com/5n8p8wzj
Posted by: Gref at March 14, 2023 03:11 PM
It's just like them. Unstable.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 03:15 PM (oE0yX)
Banking System downgraded and now Russian A/C attacking US A/C in broad day light and laughing about it !!!!
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at March 14, 2023 03:09 PM (0vFtj)
this admin is really going for mass hysteria
hold tight, don't let them get to you
Do what you can to protect yourself.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 14, 2023 03:15 PM (uQPen)
Posted by: Drider
Also curious how a jet can slow down slow enough to go toe to toe with a prop plane.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:10 PM (DQJX0)
In WW2 they would knock down V1 Missiles not by actually hitting their wing, but getting close enough that the turbulence caused by your wings lift, would affect the lift of the Missiles wing. Think NASCAR drafting... it affects the airflow of the rear car (if close enough)... if done to an wings? The one affected would lose lift due to less airflow.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2023 03:15 PM (oHd/0)
https://tinyurl.com/5n8p8wzj
Posted by: Gref at March 14, 2023 03:11 PM (AMIL/)
Hmmm. I kind of like the triple fined tail. It is squat, but it was like... a little baby being carried by Kate Upton (The B-36.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 03:16 PM (zZu0s)
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Yep. Sadly. Understanding the death, destruction, ruinous war debt, lost generation and eventual use of nuclear weapons as the standard operating procedure for WW, yep. Its what they want. Gotta wag the dog.
Posted by: Rally round the idiot at March 14, 2023 03:16 PM (8MGbh)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:08 PM (0hOvj)
That's pretty much where I'm at. If I were a Ukrainian, I would probably be running off to fight the Russians, or at least wishing I was brave enough to run off and fight the Russians. As an American, though, I'm just like "a pox on both your houses, komraden."
Posted by: Dr. T at March 14, 2023 03:16 PM (bhRsz)
Posted by: Skip at March 14, 2023 03:16 PM (xhxe8)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Predator Drone - 217 km/h, 134 mph.
Russian Mig???
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:16 PM (DQJX0)
https://tinyurl.com/5xzkpt8t
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (MvF+J)
Damn. That is like the Lena Dunham of fighters.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 02:59 PM (zZu0s)
This baby could be the Lena Dunham/Janet Yellen/Whoopi Goldberg/Tank Abrams of fighters - the XF-85 Goblin parasite fighter for the B-36
https://tinyurl.com/5n8p8wzj
Posted by: Gref at March 14, 2023 03:11 PM (AMIL/)
Given it's size, I'd say the Fauci.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 03:16 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
Bi-plane flag.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 14, 2023 03:16 PM (ZjNUF)
“I spent time with Jimmy Carter, and it’s finally caught up with him, but they found a way to keep him going for a lot longer than they anticipated because they found a breakthrough,” Biden said at a Democratic National Committee fundraiser.
“He asked me to do his eulogy,” he added.
The president then appeared to catch himself for sharing the information, saying, “Excuse me, I shouldn’t say that.”
That brings the finality of this to the fore. I feel such a sadness thinking about Jimmy not being here for all of humanity. A tear in my eye.
They are both just really nice, good people. Someone you’d be proud to call a friend and honored of they returned the sentiment.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 14, 2023 03:17 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 14, 2023 03:17 PM (Vwz3I)
A half dozen Ukrainians, unaffiliated with any government, rented a small yacht, went out into the Baltic, blew three major undersea pipelines, sailed to Denmark, and abandoned the yacht.
Simple.
And if you are stupid enough to believe that, I have several bridges over the Potomac to sell you.
Posted by: Our Intelligence Agencies! at March 14, 2023 03:17 PM (2tUFv)
Even if he wanted to, I see no method by which this is possible. And besides the military industrial complex lost its big time money maker with Afghanistan, they need this war to go on as long as possible.
What would be the point of it anyway, they're just going to rig the election so the Democrat wins.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:17 PM (0hOvj)
Flying spy drones near the border and relaying real-time intelligence to the Ukraine on Russian movement?
Shooting down the drone near the border?
I'm sick of this BS pretending we're not engaged in war with Russian because there's a Ukraine flag taped over the US one.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 14, 2023 03:17 PM (XuB58)
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Yeah and that's on top of the fact that if they ever manage to locate anyone who's ever actually watched an entire Facebook ad they should put them on a shelf in a museum with little lights shining on them.
Posted by: Azathoth at March 14, 2023 03:17 PM (wb1YC)
War with whom, though? I mean, did he say "if you expand NATO into Poland, I'm going to war with Poland"?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:15 PM (0hOvj)
We were warned about Ukraine, I don't recall if the Russians announced an official warning about Georgia before the NATO talks there triggered an incident.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 14, 2023 03:17 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at March 14, 2023 03:17 PM (R+nZe)
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 14, 2023 03:17 PM (JCZqz)
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Anything Ashley Biden wrote in her diary is Russian information, but Trump definitely had sex with Ivanka because Stephen Colbert made a joke about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:17 PM (LvTSG)
I see they've been covered by Forbes and others. Described as a safe place for the middle class versus the luxury bunkers the $wealthy can afford. Interesting. I had not heard of this until the cast. Prepper type and security.
https://fortituderanch.com/
here is Forbes piece https://tinyurl.com/452vkcwc
the times we are living in...
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 14, 2023 03:18 PM (uQPen)
Are you saying that two things cannot collide if one is going more quickly than the other?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:18 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Azathoth at March 14, 2023 03:17 PM
Ace is branching into electrical work, as well?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 14, 2023 03:18 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: wth at March 14, 2023 03:12 PM (v0R5T)
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We'll be home by Christmas.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:13 PM (LvTSG)
DC elite should pack picnic baskets and get front-row seats like they did during the battle of Bull Run
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Skwisgaar S. at March 14, 2023 03:07 PM (DTX3h)
The people in power on the Left who decide who and what to turn against don't give a rat fucking shit about homosexual couples.
Posted by: ... at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (BXxcV)
Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (rj6Yv)
-- Me, retconning FDR and WWII for the stupid present day
Posted by: Hands at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (DcKNO)
Posted by: Romeo13
V1 rocket flew at 360 mph.
P-38 flew at 400 mph.
What is the stall speed of a Russian Mig?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (DQJX0)
Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (OUMaO)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 14, 2023 03:14 PM
BiCessnal ?
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2023 03:15 PM (DcKNO)
.........
he'll give Putin Texas.
Posted by: wth at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (v0R5T)
Tell that to the auto insurers actuarial society who formerly believed that the majority of multi-vehicle wrecks were due to "variance in speed"
Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (YXHzG)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (5X+GU)
Posted by: Puddleglum
We've blamed Trump for last month's train derailment in Ohio and the bank failures this past weekend. Blaming him for WWIII is still on the table.
Posted by: Newsrooms Across America at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (vFdZx)
-- Me, retconning FDR and WWII for the stupid present day
Posted by: Hands at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (786Ro)
The wreck of the Arizona WAS certainly ecologically unsound.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (zZu0s)
Ukraine but especially Russia - the breadbasket of the world and has an abundant reserves of coal, iron ore, natural gas, manganese, salt, oil, graphite, sulfur, kaolin, titanium, nickel, magnesium, timber, and mercury.
If war, there'll be great efforts to not destroy the land.
Posted by: Lola - free Jacob Chansley at March 14, 2023 03:20 PM (GshMh)
The people in power on the Left who decide who and what to turn against don't give a rat fucking shit about homosexual couples.
Posted by: ... at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (BXxcV)
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This is why they'd never work tirelessly to get Iran nuclear weapons.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:20 PM (LvTSG)
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No, Russia's invasion was made righteous by the fact that the government of Ukraine had been overthrown by the US deep state, and was arming up against them, so it was an act of pre-emptive self defense, like the second US invasion of Iraq. Also, they were bombing civilians due to ethnicity (and the fact that they weren't loyal to the illegitimate regime in Kiev), much like Saddam bombed the Kurds, before we intervened to put a stop to it.
Russia is as justified as the US has been in its military actions, and more so because this was their own people who happened to be just over the border and it is dishonest to pretend otherwise.
Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2023 03:20 PM (kOpft)
And just to piss in his face, either Trump or China will beat him to it.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 14, 2023 03:20 PM (YXHzG)
Warned about what, that Russia would invade Ukraine (again) or that there would be war with NATO or what?
Russia invaded Ukraine with comically fake mercenary garb when Obama was president, just to grab ports and land they have always wanted.
And even if it was some sort of genuine threat to Russia for NATO to move into Ukraine (which, from what I can tell, only Ukraine was claiming this, and NATO was saying "nah"), that doesn't make it okay to invade.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:20 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 14, 2023 03:14 PM (ohFNB)
Aerosexuals? Aero-erotic?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 03:20 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Of course they can. How do you slow a Mig down enough to fly along side it and fuck up it's prop?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:20 PM (DQJX0)
He was turning his life around, wanted to be an aspiring rapper....
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 14, 2023 02:35 PM (p+1gI)
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He was turning his life around, wanted to be an aspiring DRONER....
Posted by: Ciampino - Time-sensitive prize at March 14, 2023 03:20 PM (qfLjt)
This Florida man bought Elvis' private jet and immediately chopped it in half to turn it into an RV
https://bit.ly/3YNIb8R
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I guess it takes all kinds.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 03:20 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 14, 2023 03:20 PM (ohFNB)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM
Ladened or unladened.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 03:20 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: Patsy Schroder at March 14, 2023 03:21 PM (Y/ui7)
Posted by: Greg the Class Traitor at March 14, 2023 03:04 PM (bZ64u)
It's frustrating how many times this has to be rehashed, but once again, the Budapest Memorandum was a fig leaf of cover given to Ukraine to do what they were going to have to do anyway. Russia was not going to leave soviet nukes behind, they were going back to Russia no matter what.
It was so much of a fig leaf in fact, we held zero interest in ratifying it as an actual treaty and our official position has always been that it did not bind us in any manner whatsoever. Only Ukraine tried to claim otherwise.
I'd also argue that we have done far more damage to non-proliferation given our recent history of toppling non-nuclear powers while appeasing nuclear powers and nearly capable nations like Iran.
Posted by: Sjg at March 14, 2023 03:21 PM (Lstct)
With what Putin considers the illegitimate government of Ukraine.
He's well aware of the 2014 coup that took down the duly elected pro-Russia Ukrainian government. He's also well aware of out attempts at color revolutions in other former Soviet bloc countries and he's said as much.
Didn't get a whole lot of attention but around the time of the Ukrainian invasion there was a "grass roots" uprising in Kazakstan. Putin helped put it down and declared he would not allow anymore color revolutions in his backyard. He used the term color revolutions.
Our foreign policy has been pretty much a bi-partisan disaster since WWII. Only Trump didn't play along and look what that got him.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2023 03:21 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM
Ladened or unladened.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 03:20 PM (oE0yX)
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Mongolian or Belarussian?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:21 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Skip at March 14, 2023 03:21 PM (xhxe8)
Simple.
Posted by: Our Intelligence Agencies!
Yachts are tight! Write up a treatment!
Posted by: That movie pitch meeting guy at March 14, 2023 03:21 PM (786Ro)
That is categorically, absolutely, historically, and legally false. So false its comical. There is no doctrine whatsoever which justifies Russia invading Ukraine. None. The Treaty of Westphalia which basically created the idea of independent and sovereign nation states as we now know them established all this half a millennia ago.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:21 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Predator Drone - 217 km/h, 134 mph.
Russian Mig???
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:16 PM (DQJX0)
So could've been downed by air turbulence/wake created by MIG passing by very fast.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 03:22 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 14, 2023 03:14 PM (ohFNB)
_________________
The American Flag!
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 14, 2023 03:22 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: washrivergal at March 14, 2023 03:22 PM (Y2W8B)
Posted by: Weasel at March 14, 2023 03:22 PM (RG6z4)
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And it'll work out just as well as his withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 03:22 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM
Which model?
Posted by: King Duncanthrax at March 14, 2023 03:22 PM (a3Q+t)
This Florida man bought Elvis' private jet and immediately chopped it in half to turn it into an RV
https://bit.ly/3YNIb8R
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I guess it takes all kinds.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 03:20 PM
Ahhh Jimmy's World. Best channel on You tube for an airplane buff like me. Cool, quirky funny conservative dude who buys old aircraft and gets them flying again. This was a new type of thing for Jimmy.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 03:22 PM (oE0yX)
Posted by: Seems Legit
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Adreno by Google:
https://tinyurl.com/3ze8ctc9
Chrome, by Google.
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 14, 2023 03:22 PM (kgI4a)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2023 03:22 PM (FUVRY)
That's the risk you take when you spy on military operations.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 14, 2023 03:23 PM (UuD2k)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 14, 2023 03:17 PM (eYoxG)
Two key data points.
Georgia happened right after we had Spec Ops doing 'Training Ops' in Georgia... ie right on Russia's border.
We had Troops in Ukraine, 'training' the Uke army... they were National Guard Troops (they announced the withdrawal when the Russians invaded).
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2023 03:23 PM (oHd/0)
Let's nuke 'em!
Posted by: wth at March 14, 2023 03:23 PM (v0R5T)
“He asked me to do his eulogy,” he (Biden) added.
The president then appeared to catch himself for sharing the information, saying, “Excuse me, I shouldn’t say that.”
That brings the finality of this to the fore. I feel such a sadness thinking about Jimmy not being here for all of humanity. A tear in my eye.
They are both just really nice, good people. Someone you’d be proud to call a friend and honored of they returned the sentiment.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 14, 2023 03:17 PM (JCZqz)
The Democrats are going to make Jimmy's funeral service a Paul Wellstone-type memorial event. Ugh.
Posted by: Gref at March 14, 2023 03:23 PM (AMIL/)
I didn't ask what his excuse is now, I asked what he said about going to war at the time. What did he specifically state AT THE TIME about NATO encroaching on Russian borders. Was it "I'll invade the nation that does so" or "we'll go to war with NATO"?
Either way, its still wrong. Announcing in advance you'll do something illegal and immoral doesn't somehow make it okay when you finally do it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:23 PM (0hOvj)
Nothing stopped John fucking Kerry from telling Iran to ignore Trump for four years.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 03:23 PM (KbCG3)
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Good thing I won't be watching.
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 14, 2023 03:23 PM (kgI4a)
Adrenochrome?
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (DcKNO)
Wasn't that a Paul Simon song?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 03:24 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 14, 2023 03:24 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2023 03:24 PM (DcKNO)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
That's dangerously close to being a math problem.
Posted by: Hands at March 14, 2023 03:24 PM (786Ro)
"You can invade a country and kill everyone, but you have to do it for the right reasons."
Whatever. War is war. You deal with the realities of international diplomacy and conflict. You don't sit on the sidelines finger waving because a war was started "wrong."
What are our realpolitik reasons for involving ourselves in Ukraine? It's pretty much the only question that should matter to Americans.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:24 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: jim
A Russian jet struck the propeller of a U.S. Reaper drone over the Black Sea, forcing U.S. forces to bring down the drone
Just going by what was reported, no scenario is making sense.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:24 PM (DQJX0)
Posted by: rhomboid at March 14, 2023 03:24 PM (OTzUX)
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https://tinyurl.com/6t4epja
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 14, 2023 03:24 PM (Q4IgG)
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And it'll work out just as well as his withdrawal from Afghanistan.
there is NO DOUBT that Unka Joe will screw up even a scripted-out "peace treaty" op
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 14, 2023 03:24 PM (w0NJk)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
Prop or jet?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 14, 2023 03:24 PM (FVME7)
Nothing stopped John fucking Kerry from telling Iran to ignore Trump for four years.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 03:23 PM (KbCG3)
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That's one way to figure out if SCOTUS thinks the Logan Act is constitutional or not.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:24 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: wth at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (v0R5T)
*breathes sigh of relief*
Posted by: Texas at March 14, 2023 03:25 PM (bhRsz)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2023 03:15 PM (oHd/0)
Yeah, but only souped-up Spitfire XIV and Tempests could (barely) make the intercepts V-1s. The Gloucester Meteor had better success.
Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2023 03:25 PM (rj6Yv)
Or clipped it as it flew past, because Russian arrogant pilot and/or dumb kid with a joystick
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:25 PM (0hOvj)
Nothing stopped John fucking Kerry from telling Iran to ignore Trump for four years.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 03:23 PM (KbCG3)
Except this time the whatever-act (Not Hatch?) that prevents anyone except the President from engaging in foreign diplomacy will be strictly enforced, Constitutionality be damned.
Posted by: Thrawn at March 14, 2023 03:25 PM (Rl7KJ)
Posted by: Skip at March 14, 2023 03:25 PM (xhxe8)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2023 03:22 PM (FUVRY)
She hardly looks like the Psircle-Back Psaki we all knew and totally disliked.
Posted by: Gref at March 14, 2023 03:25 PM (AMIL/)
Nothing stopped John fucking Kerry from telling Iran to ignore Trump for four years.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 03:23 PM (KbCG3)
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That's one way to figure out if SCOTUS thinks the Logan Act is constitutional or not.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:24 PM (LvTSG)
On second thought, better not. Pretty sure Trump's picks would all rule against him.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 03:25 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:24 PM (DQJX0)
It's not going to. The reporting is not intended to inform you, it's purpose is the direct how you think.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 14, 2023 03:25 PM (UuD2k)
Posted by: That movie pitch meeting guy at March 14, 2023 03:21 PM
As are the girls.
Posted by: Meaghan M. neé Suffex at March 14, 2023 03:25 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM
Which model?
Posted by: King Duncanthrax
Whatever they are currently flying?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:25 PM (DQJX0)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:21 PM (0hOvj)
If we're talking pure moral justification there's the whole de-Russification thing, which they've put forward as one of their official reasons.
But the real driver for Russia here is national security. Which the US has a role in by convincing them there were reasonable odds we were setting up to screw them over. So in practical terms this started from a diplomatic failure.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 14, 2023 03:25 PM (eYoxG)
(Has nothing to do with anything, just an interesting historical account.)
Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 14, 2023 03:26 PM (jTmQV)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:26 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 14, 2023 03:26 PM (5X+GU)
well at least he'll let us drill our own oil and get the drag queens out of the schools and libraries
Posted by: Texas at March 14, 2023 03:26 PM (lO5WT)
Wait, was it Wellstone or some other lefty I never cared about?
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2023 03:26 PM (DcKNO)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM
Which model?
Posted by: King Duncanthrax at March 14, 2023 03:22 PM (a3Q+t)
I don't know tha--AAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Posted by: The Bridgekeeper at March 14, 2023 03:26 PM (bhRsz)
On the morning of March 14. over the waters of the Black Sea in the area of the Crimean peninsula, the airspace control of the Russian Aerospace Forces recorded the flight of an American MQ-9 unmanned aerial vehicle in the direction of the state border of the Russian Federation.
The flight of the unmanned aerial vehicle was carried out with transponders turned off in violation of the boundaries of the area of the temporary regime for the use of airspace, established for the purpose of conducting a special military operation, brought to all users of international airspace and published in accordance with international standards.
In order to identify the intruder, fighters from the air defense forces on duty were raised into the air. As a result of sharp maneuvering around 9.30 (Moscow time), the MQ-9 unmanned aerial vehicle went into uncontrolled flight with a loss of altitude and collided with the water surface.
Russian fighters did not use airborne weapons, did not come into contact with an unmanned aerial vehicle and returned safely to their base airfield.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 14, 2023 03:26 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: Predator Reaper Drone at March 14, 2023 03:26 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 14, 2023 03:25 PM (KbCG3)
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As Joe Mannix has reported, it takes about $10,000 to majorly influence John Bolton.
The Deep State will through $11,000 at everyone Trump picks to make sure they stay good and bought.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:26 PM (LvTSG)
>>>That'll learn 'em.
Not environmentally unsound? Nuclear winter.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2023 03:27 PM (PyOKD)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2023 03:22 PM (FUVRY)
........
She's gonna need a pskin transplant.
Posted by: wth at March 14, 2023 03:27 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
Which is why I'm not picking up what they're putting down.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:27 PM (DQJX0)
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What's that, you accept the deal? Ok, you drive a hard bargain. We'll also give you Florida and throw in East Palestine.
Posted by: Joe Biden master negotiator at March 14, 2023 03:27 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Hands at March 14, 2023 03:27 PM (786Ro)
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landing approach speed for a Su 27 is about 140 mph.
Posted by: its doable at March 14, 2023 03:27 PM (RE8z4)
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They care about having a ready supply of sex toys.
Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2023 03:28 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM
Which model?
Posted by: King Duncanthrax at March 14, 2023 03:22 PM (a3Q+t)
I don't know tha--AAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Posted by: The Bridgekeeper at March 14, 2023 03:26 PM (bhRsz)
lol
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2023 03:28 PM (PyOKD)
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 14, 2023 03:27 PM (PyOKD)
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If it means killing Putin and replacing him with another nationalist hardliner that is reacting to a nuclear attack on St. Petersburg, it's totally worth it!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:28 PM (LvTSG)
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This just in: Carter has volunteered to deliver Biden's eulogy too.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2023 03:28 PM (cK+AV)
Good plan.
Posted by: Azathoth at March 14, 2023 03:28 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: rhomboid at March 14, 2023 03:28 PM (OTzUX)
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They care about having a ready supply of sex toys.
Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2023 03:28 PM (kOpft)
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That's what the open southern border is for.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:28 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 14, 2023 02:51 PM
You'd have to ask the DOJ and FIB.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (oE0yX)
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What about 'high rate of speed' when speed (MPH) is already a rate? 'high rate of rate'?
Posted by: Ciampino -- Time-sensitive prize at March 14, 2023 03:28 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 14, 2023 03:29 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 14, 2023 03:29 PM (61D1G)
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Good thing I won't be watching.
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 14, 2023 03:23 PM
Tom Harkin spoke well and passionately, which is why the Wellstone funeral was an embarrassing Circus.
Biden speaking, and trying to make it a "moment", will be embarrassing for completely different reasons.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 14, 2023 03:29 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM
Which model?
Posted by: King Duncanthrax at March 14, 2023 03:22 PM (a3Q+t)
I don't know tha--AAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Posted by: The Bridgekeeper
SNORT
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:29 PM (DQJX0)
Either way, its still wrong. Announcing in advance you'll do something illegal and immoral doesn't somehow make it okay when you finally do it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:23 PM (0hOvj)
The Monroe doctrine and our interventions in regards to Cuba, particularly the Cuban missile crisis, follow similar principles.
Russia's warnings were specific to Ukraine (and possibly Georgia). They're not happy with but not as threatened by some other states joining NATO.
They are ok with Ukraine joining the EU.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 14, 2023 03:29 PM (eYoxG)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:25 PM (0hOvj)
Or, did exactly as he intended, and knocked down a US drone where it could be recovered.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2023 03:29 PM (oHd/0)
I think that's a lot of why the left is so enormously pushing for the Ukraine thing: all those hot young Ukranian girls.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:29 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: Weasel at March 14, 2023 03:29 PM (RG6z4)
Also the B1-B is the XB-70's sexy younger sister.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 14, 2023 03:29 PM (cMXNt)
Posted by: its doable at March 14, 2023 03:29 PM (5zWp3)
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Nor do they care about trannies.
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 14, 2023 03:29 PM (eGTCV)
Pro war -
Pence
Scott
Christie
Probably Pro war (didn't respond) -
Haley
Anti war -
Trump
DeSantis
Ramaswamy (sorry about spelling)
Noem
Abbott (sort of)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 14, 2023 03:30 PM (fs1hN)
Biden speaking, and trying to make it a "moment", will be embarrassing for completely different reasons.
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Still not watching.
But thanks for the history lesson.
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 14, 2023 03:30 PM (kgI4a)
No, he said Ukraine and Georgia entering NATO would be unacceptable. I'm pretty sure everyone in NATO who isn't a moron got the message, the definitely should've after Georgia.
When the Soviets tried to park a bunch if ICBMS in Cuba it nearly brought us to WWIII. We have never much liked the idea of communists creeping up on our door step and have spent years sending money and weapons to Latin America to fight against it. Putin doesn't want the west coming any closer to him either.
There is zero point in having Ukraine in NATO other than our elite likes their playgrounds. And yes, Putin considered taking down Yanukovych a pretty big deal.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2023 03:30 PM (ZLI7S)
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Good thing I won't be watching.
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 14, 2023 03:23 PM
Wait... did they finally finish McCain's funeral?
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 14, 2023 03:31 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: its doable at March 14, 2023 03:31 PM (5zWp3)
Sounds cool if you read it with a Russian accent
Posted by: JoeF. at March 14, 2023 03:31 PM (mR6Gs)
Presto. Splash one drone.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 14, 2023 03:31 PM (61D1G)
Posted by: N. Lurker at March 14, 2023 02:51 PM
You'd have to ask the DOJ and FIB.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 02:56 PM (oE0yX)
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What about 'high rate of speed' when speed (MPH) is already a rate? 'high rate of rate'?
Posted by: Ciampino -- Time-sensitive prize at March 14, 2023 03:28 PM (qfLjt)
Velocity is rate of change of distance over time
Acceleration is rate of change of velocity over time
Jerk is the rate of change of acceleration over time...or any Democrat
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 03:31 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:31 PM (0hOvj)
Posted by: ... at March 14, 2023 03:31 PM (BXxcV)
Posted by: Weasel
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Been pretty much my default setting for a while now.
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 14, 2023 03:31 PM (kgI4a)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:25 PM
Apparently it was an Su-27, not a Mig. I can't find stall speed, but approach speed is 129 knots, so stall would be somewhat below that, depending on how dirty the configuration is.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 14, 2023 03:31 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 14, 2023 03:31 PM (ynpvh)
Also the B1-B is the XB-70's sexy younger sister.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 14, 2023 03:29 PM (cMXNt)
B-1 is a solid entrant.
On the Vulcan, I am just not a huge fan of the delta wing.
On the other hand, the flying wings were/are all cool AF.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 14, 2023 03:31 PM (zZu0s)
I was thinking the same thing.
Amazing what two years of lies by the Biden Administration can accomplish.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 14, 2023 03:31 PM (2tUFv)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM (DQJX0)
Not at the 4,000 feet max altitude of the V-1. Max speed there was 350-360 mph.
Posted by: Gref at March 14, 2023 03:31 PM (AMIL/)
We must be kin. I retired 27 USN 27years ago, and get up at 0400 for work, age 74.
Posted by: Eromero at March 14, 2023 03:32 PM (MF3yS)
I think the last three years have proven that they cannot be trusted. With anything.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2023 03:32 PM (DcKNO)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 14, 2023 03:26 PM (2tUFv)
Thank you. Interesting.
Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2023 03:32 PM (rj6Yv)
Haley didn't respond either, I don't think, but otherwise that's about right. Pence's was totally blah; all he could do was answer "Reagan Reagan Reagan" to every question.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 14, 2023 03:32 PM (bhRsz)
"Unsafe." Yeah, a soy word.
"Harm," that's another soy word. The Russian weapon harmed our intelligence-gathering weapon.
Our surveillance information has been used to sink their ships and kill their sailors and soldiers. So far the Russians have been holding back in responding.
"Unsafe." It's all sick and diseased. A sick dangerous game played by retarded criminals.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 14, 2023 03:32 PM (hihOa)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2023 03:28 PM (cK+AV)
Now that's funny
Posted by: ... at March 14, 2023 03:33 PM (BXxcV)
Posted by: Weasel at March 14, 2023 03:29 PM (RG6z4)
Right there with you, and it's not so much that I think OMG Russia-Russia-Russia is somewhat less fcked up than the Soviet Union, as I think *our* feralgov is completely bonkers.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 14, 2023 03:33 PM (llON8)
I am so tired of people trying to play equivalence here. Its so tedious and idiotic and brutal to history, reason, and morality.
The Soviet Union was EVIL. Their entire doctrine was specifically about spreading communism around the world as aggressively as possible through every means. The USSR =/= the USA, in any level or way, especially in the 1960s. For the love of God, stop trying this, everyone.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:33 PM (0hOvj)
Note that there has been frequent/credible Russian media commentary regarding US or NATO UAVs operating near Crimea during various Ukrainian attacks (via both UAVs and at least one via UUVs).
There will be no nukyler war, there will be no meaningful change in anything because of this. The game as it has been going will continue. The only important thing is the situation on the ground, and the endurance (broadly defined) of both sides. The former is now marginally tipping towards the Russian side, the latter has always been on the Russian side.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 14, 2023 03:33 PM (OTzUX)
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landing approach speed for a Su 27 is about 140 mph.
Posted by: its doable
With a 134 mph speed of a predator drone, the Mig would have to go slower than the drone to fuck with it's propeller just enough to ruin the prop and not crash it.
We know the US's excuse is bull shit.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:34 PM (DQJX0)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:26 PM (LvTSG)
DeSantis will pick people that cost way more to buy.
Posted by: ... at March 14, 2023 03:34 PM (BXxcV)
This will be like the game show Family Feud.
• Clipped by a Mig
• ran into a Chinese "weather" balloon
• solar panels failed causing crash
• bird strike
• Should have taken a left turn in Albuquerque
• kids in the bunker fighting over the joystick
• female pilot was trying to parallel park
• UFO
• Trump's fault
Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 14, 2023 03:34 PM (YXHzG)
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Does this mean they'll have to wrap-up the McCain funeral first?
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 14, 2023 03:35 PM (gi1j+)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:26 PM (LvTSG)
DeSantis will pick people that cost way more to buy.
Posted by: ... at March 14, 2023 03:34 PM (BXxcV)
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Gonna be honest, that seems doubtful.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 14, 2023 03:35 PM (LvTSG)
The Black Sea isn't deep enough to prevent recovery. Heck Air France Flt 447 pretty much proves there is nowhere on the ocean floor that is deep enough to prevent recovery of key bits.
Amazing how the Democrats are now demonizing the Russians when back in Reagan's time Russia was not a threat.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 14, 2023 03:35 PM (AtRkB)
Posted by: Gen Jack Ripper at March 14, 2023 03:36 PM (xhaym)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2023 03:22 PM (FUVRY)
I swear if you didn't tell me this I would never ever ever find it out.
Posted by: ... at March 14, 2023 03:36 PM (BXxcV)
Yeah, but only souped-up Spitfire XIV and Tempests could (barely) make the intercepts V-1s. The Gloucester Meteor had better success.
Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2023 03:25 PM (rj6Yv)
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You forgot the Mosquito.
Posted by: Ciampino - Balsa wood and canvas at March 14, 2023 03:36 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 14, 2023 03:36 PM (AtRkB)
Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist to the Stars at March 14, 2023 03:36 PM (Vu7A1)
The Soviet Union was EVIL. Their entire doctrine was specifically about spreading communism around the world as aggressively as possible through every means. The USSR =/= the USA, in any level or way, especially in the 1960s. For the love of God, stop trying this, everyone.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:33 PM (0hOvj)
Now, who's being naive, Kay?
Posted by: Michael Corleone at March 14, 2023 03:36 PM (mR6Gs)
So the flight envelopes do overlap a bit.
Posted by: its doable at March 14, 2023 03:36 PM (RJkSH)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:19 PM
Which model?
Posted by: King Duncanthrax
Whatever they are currently flying?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:25 PM (DQJX0)
SU-27 seems what was involved. I am seeing stall speed a little under 200 knots indicated
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf A2E6, Easy 6 Titanium Enhanced at March 14, 2023 03:36 PM (8C7+r)
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2:30 a.m. BEIJING TIME!!!
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 14, 2023 03:37 PM (Vwz3I)
Posted by: Ciampino - Balsa wood and canvas at March 14, 2023 03:36 PM
Those things were cool. Made by Studebaker.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 03:37 PM (oE0yX)
We must be kin. I retired 27 USN 27years ago, and get up at 0400 for work, age 74.
Posted by: Eromero
Dad was Army '58 - '61 and got up every morning of my life between 4:30 & 5:00 am. Even on the weekends.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:37 PM (DQJX0)
Probably going to get willowed but if Trump wanted to negotiate a peace, he should just head over and do it.
Nothing stopped John fucking Kerry from telling Iran to ignore Trump for four years.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
Or Jimmy the Peanut going to N Korea in the early 90s to negotiate a nuke deal without any approval from the US government. Reportedly, Bubba Clinton was fucking LIVID when Jimmy came back and handed him the agreement. Of course, being a good Donk commie cocksucker, he didn't do shit about it.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 14, 2023 03:38 PM (n+4am)
• Clipped by a Mig
• ran into a Chinese "weather" balloon
• solar panels failed causing crash
• bird strike
• Should have taken a left turn in Albuquerque
• kids in the bunker fighting over the joystick
• female pilot was trying to parallel park
• UFO
• Trump's fault
Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 14, 2023 03:34 PM (YXHzG)
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• Jew's Weather Machine
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at March 14, 2023 03:38 PM (gi1j+)
I'm pretty tired of naive people who think the world plays by their rules.
Why did we promise Putin repeatedly that we would not expand NATO and then do it anyway? Note, I said Putin not the Soviet Union.
Why did we run a coup in Ukraine because we didn't like the government? Why did we also try in Kazakstan?
It's actually possible to love this country and not love our leadership or agree with their foreign policy which has largely been idiotic for decades.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2023 03:38 PM (ZLI7S)
That's the risk you take when you spy on military operations.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 14, 2023 03:23 PM (UuD2k)
It wasn't a "perfectly" valid target, or else they would've just used a missile or cannon to take it down.
But since we have been public about sharing intelligence with Ukraine, we also cannot claim to be an entirely neutral third party, merely doing innocent things in international airspace. Which leaves us trying to argue environmentalism and professional courtesy because that's the best the retards running our military can come up with now.
Posted by: Sjg at March 14, 2023 03:38 PM (Lstct)
Mosquitoes had the Merlin 61s IIRC but two of them.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 14, 2023 03:38 PM (AtRkB)
After we were handcuffed and muffled during the Covid emergency, just think of all of the lost freedoms and new restrictions that will be unveiled due to 'war-time emergency powers." They are all probably drooling at the prospect.
Posted by: washrivergal
Aren't we already at war with climate change?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 14, 2023 03:39 PM (63Dwl)
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The Monroe doctrine as has mentioned in this thread.
I just gave you two examples of US action, which few disputed meaningfully at the time, which directly parallel the situation Russia was faced with, the latter, defense of civilians being openly attacked by a government that claimed authority over them, has been a reason for many US interventions (Kosovo is another example Russia would be familiar with).
You are simply completely wrong on the point, Christopher.
Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2023 03:39 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2023 03:41 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 14, 2023 03:41 PM (AtRkB)
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The drone envelope is maybe 300+ miles per hour. Its landing speed is 132. So it was probably going faster than 132 or 134. It was probably doing 150+ and if there was a head wind the mig could manage to be within 10 15 mph closing speed. Its doable. THe mig landing speed is 149. So it was probably doing 160 170. Losing altitude and walking over the top at a closing speed of 10 to 20 mph.
Posted by: its doable at March 14, 2023 03:41 PM (PdAyv)
Let the LGBTQ?!@# and the anti-American, anti-Christian CRT scum go fight this engineered conflict over the globalist money-laundering scam of Ukraine.
Let all the professional sportsball hacks who disrespected the previous military members by kneeling in dishonor during the National Anthem...including the purple-haired soccer lesbian...go fight and die for the Ukrainian scam.
Posted by: Pete at March 14, 2023 03:45 PM (9uoO8)
129.6 km = 80 mph.
https://bit.ly/3yCJVHh
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2023 03:48 PM (DQJX0)
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 14, 2023 03:49 PM (Vwz3I)
Posted by: Haywood at March 14, 2023 03:53 PM (2WsAi)
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In what way is the DC deep state morally superior to the USSR? The Soviets merely wanted to dominate the world, DC does.
Posted by: Methos at March 14, 2023 03:55 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2023 04:00 PM (rj6Yv)
Reminds me of the 80's when Reagan was president.
"Don't make the Russians angry".
Also, while I am not a fan of the insane amount of spending on Ukraine, to think if it was not spent there that the vast majority would be used for anything other than destroying America more quickly is mind blowing.
Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at March 14, 2023 04:01 PM (AxGTK)
Posted by: Ciampino - Balsa wood and canvas at March 14, 2023 03:36 PM
Those things were cool. Made by Studebaker.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 14, 2023 03:37 PM (oE0yX)
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it was made by de Havilland
Posted by: Ciampino - Balsa wood and canvas at March 14, 2023 04:09 PM (qfLjt)
https://twitter.com/MassDara/status
/1635704403729457153
Posted by: comradearthur at March 14, 2023 04:18 PM (/P8Pv)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 14, 2023 04:19 PM (m4vHW)
Posted by: KenW at March 14, 2023 04:32 PM (dLkkp)
Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2023 02:40 PM (Y45pj)
Spying into Russian airspace during a military operation. And using the information to kill Russian servicemen.
These have already been done on multiple occasions, this time it was by drone.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 14, 2023 04:39 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:33 PM (0hOvj)
you do realize that the Soviet Union no longer exists, right?
Posted by: Oldcat at March 14, 2023 04:42 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2023 03:31 PM (0hOvj)
Worse than all of that it is another pseudo nation like the EU, responsible even less to any populace yet it conducts foreign policy and foments conflict in the name of the member states. We have enough "deep states" in the actual sovereign nations without creating extra irresponsible ones.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 14, 2023 04:47 PM (eoQWY)
It's actually possible to love this country and not love our leadership or agree with their foreign policy which has largely been idiotic for decades.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2023 03:38 PM (ZLI7S)
We forced a cease fire in 2014 when the Donbass states surrounded the Ukrainian army to avoid its surrender. We set up the Minsk Accords, which were to give self rule inside Ukraine, backed by a UN resolution and signed by France and Germany.
The accords were never enforced, and Ukraine built the fortifications Russia is grinding down now in lands that were by the accords demilitarized. French and German high officials have recently boasted that they *never* were living up to the treaty and used the time to rearm Ukraine *to fight Russia*.
Before the invasion, Russia tried to get countries like France and Germany to talk about enforcement of Minsk. These were torpedoed by US diplomatic pressure. Peace talks after the invasion started were stopped by US and UK diplomatic pressure.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 14, 2023 04:54 PM (eoQWY)
This is a jet with about the wingspan of a 737, retracting gear and 24hr+ loiter time. Cruises up at 50Kft+. Not clear how it works with the Reaper, but since it cruises up with (and above) the big boys, it uses an ADS-B transponder and shows up clearly.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at March 14, 2023 06:19 PM (AcLxR)
Posted by: Oldfogey at March 14, 2023 09:51 PM (mBQwV)
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