Jacob Chansley's Former Attorney: I Repatedly Asked Federal Prosecutors for Video of My Client and They Repeatedly Told Me They Had None

An attorney for the so-called "QAnon Shaman" Jacob Chansley asked federal prosecutors repeatedly for all videos showing his client inside the Capitol on Jan. 6, yet told The Daily Wire he never received the bombshell -- and potentially exculpatory -- footage aired Monday night by Tucker Carlson.
Albert Watkins, whose client Jacob Chansley pleaded guilty to felony charges in connection with the Capitol riot and was sentenced to 41 months in prison, said Department of Justice prosecutors were legally bound to turn over the footage. Clips shown on Carlson's Fox News Channel program show Chansley walking freely and peaceably through the building, often accompanied by multiple police officers.
"We did not receive that video footage," Watkins said. "We asked for it, and not just once or twice. Whether we asked for it or not is irrelevant because the government had an absolute, non-compromisible duty to disclose that video and they did not do so."
"And all the while, they were actively representing to the court and the American people that Jake was a leader, leading the charge into the Capitol," he said. "They did not disclose that footage because it ran contrary to their rote narrative."
Watkins, an attorney for nearly 40 years, told The Daily Wire he was stunned to see the footage, which he could have used to defend Chansley.
"I've never seen anything so vile as what I'm seeing right now," he said. "It's a departure from a pretty high standard they've maintained for a long time. Anyone who needs to have belief in the integrity of our justice system, whether they're a left-wing New England academic or a raging right-winger, needs to say that this is really wrong and f--ing it up for everyone."
Watkins said anger now being focused on Carlson for locating and airing the footage should be directed at prosecutors who appeared to violate rules established in the landmark Supreme Court case U.S. v Brady, which cemented that prosecutors must turn over relevant information to defense attorneys, particularly exculpatory evidence.
"Looking at the news, half of it is getting mad at Tucker," Watkins said. "What the f-- does Tucker have to do with any of this? Except that he was smart enough to get it in our faces."
"It's appalling," he continued. "Whether you're right-leaning, you like Tucker Carlson, you hate Tucker Carlson, is irrelevant. This is about putting a dagger in the heart of our justice system. And the person holding the dagger and thrusting it with all its might is our Department of Justice. This required collaboration from the top of the Justice Department right down to the Assistant U.S. Attorney lying to me, a fellow officer of the court, knowing I had a duty to put my client in the best position I could based on the evidence."
Chansley in September of 2021 pleaded guilty to unlawfully obstructing an official proceeding. Watkins no longer represents him.
Kimberly Paschall, the assistant U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia who Watkins said lied, did not immediately return a request for comment. A spokesman for her boss, U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia Matthew Graves, declined to comment even though Chansley's case is not ongoing.
Federal Judge Royce Lamberth, who presided over the case, should sanction the federal prosecutors, Watkins said.
"This is as egregious a violation of the trust as I have seen, with the exception of hiding DNA evidence in a murder case," he said. "If I'm a federal judge and find out that indeed I was played a fool, I was duped by an assistant U.S. attorney that lied to me repeatedly while Mr. Watkins was yelling that no one was more peaceful than Jacob, and I'm making rulings based on what the government is saying, I'd be one pissed off federal judge."

Yeah, that's the way it should be. But ol' Royce Lamberth will make some excuses for the prosecutors.

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1 /plants flag

Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at March 09, 2023 01:01 PM (OUMaO)

2 Sponge!!

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 09, 2023 01:01 PM (N39Ws)

3 a lot of assholes are going to have to pay the shaman cash money

Posted by: x at March 09, 2023 01:02 PM (ZBPE2)

4 Prosecute the prosecutors?
well... ok...
but definitely...
Perseucte the prosecutors too

Posted by: jb at March 09, 2023 01:02 PM (MFMP+)

5 What happened to Royce?

Posted by: Valiant at March 09, 2023 01:02 PM (cy2xC)

6 Saying mean things about federal prosecutors is a federal crime. Imagining that they could even conceive of doing anything unethical is unconstitutional.

Patterico told me so.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:02 PM (LvTSG)

7 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 09, 2023 01:02 PM (+sD5M)

8 Prosecute the prosecutors.

The prosecutors have said that Fauci told them we only wanted a single narrative regarding video of Jan 6th.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 09, 2023 01:03 PM (GYIa4)

9 Keep pounding this ace.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 09, 2023 01:03 PM (zZu0s)

10 What difference does this make!
- Tired old hag grifter

Posted by: Inogame at March 09, 2023 01:03 PM (53oGX)

11 What happened to Royce?
Posted by: Valiant at March 09, 2023 01:02 PM (cy2xC)

Rolls banged his wife, adopted his kids and stole the family fortune.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 09, 2023 01:04 PM (+sD5M)

12 So this will result in an immediate voiding of the conviction, of course.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:04 PM (lEVn+)

13 "This is as egregious a violation of the trust as I have seen, with the exception of hiding DNA evidence in a murder case," he said. "If I'm a federal judge and find out that indeed I was played a fool, I was duped by an assistant U.S. attorney that lied to me repeatedly while Mr. Watkins was yelling that no one was more peaceful than Jacob, and I'm making rulings based on what the government is saying, I'd be one pissed off federal judge."

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NO STANDING!
- Federal judge who doesn't want his son to die in a massive explosion after his car is involved in a mild low-speed sideswipe accident

Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 09, 2023 01:04 PM (sL5fe)

14 Kimberly Paschall, the assistant U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia who Watkins said lied, did not immediately return a request for comment. A spokesman for her boss, U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia Matthew Graves, declined to comment even though Chansley's case is not ongoing.
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Well sure.

The government is hateful and reckless but they know that making a statement on this won't go over well.

After all, telling the questioner, "HAHAHAHAHA. Smell the glove, motherfucker" will be a bit too telling.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:05 PM (t0OGg)

15 What happened to Royce?

They're at the car wash.

(Deep enough reference that the Horde won't get it? Probably not).

Posted by: Ian S. at March 09, 2023 01:05 PM (ZGrMX)

16 The supreme court could have fixed all of this if they had not refused to hear a legitimate complaint from half of the states against six states that were already proven to have illegally tampered with a federal election. Cowardice leads to tyranny.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 09, 2023 01:05 PM (lTGtQ)

17 The prosecutors and judges were legally bound to a speedy trial and should also have allowed a change of venue.

Since neither of those things happened, what conclusions should we draw?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 09, 2023 01:05 PM (2YtOq)

18 I wish that I could have hope that this would change anything. It's cold comfort knowing that at least a portion of the truth was revealed.

Posted by: Tiberius Gracchus at March 09, 2023 01:05 PM (VSIhW)

19 "We did not receive that video footage," Watkins said. "We asked for it, and not just once or twice. Whether we asked for it or not is irrelevant because the government had an absolute, non-compromisible duty to disclose that video and they did not do so."

There was cellphone or GoPro footage of that online THAT DAY. There were so many vloggers roaming around recording that every bit of footage the govt had should've been available online somewhere at one time or another. I remember watching Buffalo Guy walking around and being aghast that he was actually in "the people's chamber" and walking around.

That is before youtube deleted everything THEY had.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 09, 2023 01:06 PM (+sD5M)

20 I read that "people" were saying Tucker held back in the second day of reports.

Has anyone else seen that? Is it clickbait or is there some juice there?

Posted by: Inogame at March 09, 2023 01:06 PM (53oGX)

21 "I've never seen anything so vile as what I'm seeing right now," he said. "It's a departure from a pretty high standard they've maintained for a long time. Anyone who needs to have belief in the integrity of our justice system, whether they're a left-wing New England academic or a raging right-winger, needs to say that this is really wrong and f--ing it up for everyone."
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So, is he a liar or did he finally have the wool pulled away?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:06 PM (t0OGg)

22 OT:
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From the 'no shit' files. This is why you test the water before immersing you hand in it.

You know what is even worse? Lava. Or 'Fire'. Don't stick your hand in those either, morons.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 09, 2023 01:06 PM (zZu0s)

23 Albert Watkins is full of shit. He railroaded his own client and is now desperate for damage control.

Even without that video, the shaman was accused of nothing more than trespassing or "parading" in a public space. He was never accused of anything violent. And yet Watkins stood by with his thumbs up hi ass as his client was locked in solitary for months like some kind of movie super-villain. Then Watkins recommended the shaman plead guilty to bullshit crimes and got almost 4 years in prison.

Watkins was in on the scam from the beginning. Whether he did or did not have the video is irrelevant.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 09, 2023 01:06 PM (iFTx/)

24 Reality: Capitol Police are guilty of entrapment.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at March 09, 2023 01:07 PM (ZC8hN)

25 Ass cancer >> McConnell

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 09, 2023 01:07 PM (E+05M)

26 "This is as egregious a violation of the trust as I have seen, with the exception of hiding DNA evidence in a murder case," he said. "If I'm a federal judge and find out that indeed I was played a fool, I was duped by an assistant U.S. attorney that lied to me repeatedly while Mr. Watkins was yelling that no one was more peaceful than Jacob, and I'm making rulings based on what the government is saying, I'd be one pissed off federal judge."
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You would be if you were duped.

He wasn't duped. He - like the rest of them, probably including the defense attorneys - was in on it. Nobody was "duped."

This is all sounding a lot like, "if only Comrade Stalin knew!" Bullshit.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:07 PM (t0OGg)

27 Those elites can never leave K street never, Some will not even be welcome in Mehxifornia, Bi-Partisan ? my testicles are bi partisan,
A pox on Both houses, this is like a huge carbunkle.

Posted by: Paul Ryan Step Brother to SHillary at March 09, 2023 01:07 PM (uSdpa)

28 Yeah, that's the way it should be. But ol' Royce Lamberth will make some excuses for the prosecutors.

I doubt Royce Lamberth was played a fool. Not unlike SCOTUS who, I believe, knew the 2020 election was hinkey and did nothing. Part and parcel, members of the uniparty elite will do whatever is necessary to further and cement uniparty power.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 09, 2023 01:07 PM (GYIa4)

29 15 What happened to Royce?

They're at the car wash.

(Deep enough reference that the Horde won't get it? Probably not).
Posted by: Ian S. at March 09, 2023 01:05 PM (ZGrMX)
________________

I got it, bruh

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 09, 2023 01:08 PM (iFTx/)

30 This still makes me sick. And if Turley is right, he can't get around this unless that j@ck@$$ judge Lambert or whoever is outraged enough and does something about it.

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 09, 2023 01:08 PM (9qHsE)

31 Still holding out a glimmer of hope that Chuck Schumer is caught up in the whirlwind that was supposedly released a while back.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 09, 2023 01:08 PM (TNyrE)

32 I've watched and re-watched Carlson's show (YT) from last night. Magnificent work. Pitch perfect. A historic event. Carlson's setup for the Schumer statement, for me, is the pinnacle of investigative journalism. 60 Effin' Minutes, get outta here.

Posted by: mrp at March 09, 2023 01:09 PM (rj6Yv)

33 Also, Tim Poole has a guest on one of his web casts who says it takes 6 months to get agents inside something like J6. Find those agents who provoked what happened and all of the prosecutions become illegitimate, if I understood correctly.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 09, 2023 01:09 PM (2YtOq)

34 Yeah, that's the way it should be. But ol' Royce Lamberth will make some excuses for the prosecutors.
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All shall make excuses for each-other. It's how the tyrannical circle-jerk works. Eventually, if somebody *has* to be punished to put the issue to bed, they'll pin on a flunky. A file clerk, maybe.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:09 PM (t0OGg)

35 Julie Kelly has been on a tear about the proud boys trial. FBI his exculpatory evidence.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 09, 2023 01:09 PM (+68Ze)

36 I'm of the belief that alot of the J6 prisoners will ONLY get justice when high-profile attorney's start to smell victory and high cash settlements and get involved.

Then, it will be as if a dam burst.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 09, 2023 01:09 PM (mR6Gs)

37 Shouldn't those attorneys be disbarred and then tried? But I'm not a pundit.

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 09, 2023 01:09 PM (eGTCV)

38 Wasn't Buffalo Guy forced to sign a "no appeals" clause that prevents him from appealing to a different court?

Nothing shady there. Nope. Nuh uh.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 09, 2023 01:09 PM (+sD5M)

39
Oh, please. Nobody who works the will of the State and Party gets prosecuted. Half of these fucks probably wintered on Little St. James, ferpetessakes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 09, 2023 01:09 PM (oINRc)

40 Unless and until everyone involved in these railroad jobs are fired, sued until penniless, prosecuted and hung from the nearest sturdy object, absolutely fuck-all will change.

We're post-Constitutional and post-judicial at this point.

Posted by: ballistic at March 09, 2023 01:09 PM (oXNqT)

41 Yeah, I don’t trust the Watkins dude any farther than I can throw Trigglypuff.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 09, 2023 01:09 PM (XR5XV)

42 I heard Mitch McConnell broke his neck on a fall. Shame.

Posted by: Veritas at March 09, 2023 01:09 PM (M5z+9)

43 What happened to Royce?

They're at the car wash.

I understood this.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 09, 2023 01:09 PM (AW0uW)

44 You know what the most common reaction I've seen to that from the crony faction?

"These attorneys should be disbarred for incompetence!"

Thus they don't really think there is footage that is, in a real sense, exculpatory for Chansley, as there is clearly all this footage of him running around like a madman and posing like Conan on a pile of Kop corpses, he stabbed with his spear/flagpole.

But if there is, punish the defenders for failing their clients, which they really still think is dangerous and should be a long time in prison.

Posted by: Axeman at March 09, 2023 01:10 PM (krQz2)

45 this is what burned Nifong in the infamous Duke Rape case.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 09, 2023 01:10 PM (trdmm)

46 DoJ prosecutors pulled this same shit in the Enron trial and the Sen. Ted Stevens trial. They were found out. But NOT punished. Arthur Anderson was immorally destroyed as a company, and Ted Stevens, under a cloud, lost his Senate seat.

Two wins for the bad guys at the DoJ.

Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at March 09, 2023 01:10 PM (5wSwv)

47 this is what burned Nifong in the infamous Duke Rape case.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 09, 2023 01:10 PM (trdmm)
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That was another era and another country.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:10 PM (t0OGg)

48 What happened to Royce?

They're at the car wash.

(Deep enough reference that the Horde won't get it? Probably not).
Posted by: Ian S. at March 09, 2023 01:05 PM (ZGrMX)

You do know that we're 29, right?

https://youtu.be/eB0aROCl530

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 09, 2023 01:10 PM (GYIa4)

49 I heard Mitch McConnell broke his neck on a fall. Shame.

Posted by: Veritas at March 09, 2023 01:09 PM (M5z+9)
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Wait.

Mitch had a neck?

Posted by: Axeman at March 09, 2023 01:11 PM (krQz2)

50 Again, I am wondering when the mostly peaceful rally begins outside the home of federal prosecutor Kimberly Paschall.

Just to let her know we think she made a mistake, that's all.

Posted by: The_Hoser at March 09, 2023 01:11 PM (N66D6)

51 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 09, 2023 01:11 PM (T4tVD)

52 This is not the first time that it has been revealed that footage that would have helped exonerate a client was hidden by the FBI and the J6 committee.

But who watches the watchmen?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 09, 2023 01:11 PM (0hOvj)

53 Royce sounds like a fuckin idiot!

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 09, 2023 01:11 PM (BRHaw)

54 What happened to Royce?

They're at the car wash.

(Deep enough reference that the Horde won't get it? Probably not).
Posted by: Ian S. at March 09, 2023 01:05 PM (ZGrMX)

***

How'd you get so rich Daddy Rich

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at March 09, 2023 01:11 PM (flINI)

55 Wait.

Mitch had a neck?
Posted by: Axeman at March 09, 2023 01:11 PM (krQz2)
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A really long one. A long neck is required for the head to emerge from the shell.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:11 PM (t0OGg)

56 I wonder if DU is hypothesizing the Tucker Carlson had Mitch McConnell attacked by the same MAGA enthusiasts that attacked Jussie Smollett?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:11 PM (LvTSG)

57 (Deep enough reference that the Horde won't get it? Probably not).
Posted by: Ian S. at March 09, 2023 01:05 PM (ZGrMX)

ROSE Royce. 1976

Posted by: JoeF. at March 09, 2023 01:12 PM (mR6Gs)

58 I was watching another timcast this morning and there was a guy on his show who was also charged on j6. He explained how they threaten you until you take a plea bargain, which he did. But one guy took the plea and then they said after the fact that now they are going to go after him with terrorist charges, and I think the guy on timcast said the guy committed suicide as a result.

I have never seen such evil in my lifetime. I know there has been in history, but as an adult, in my lifetime our Constitution and Laws are completely ignored by very evil dark people. Ghouls.

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 09, 2023 01:12 PM (9qHsE)

59 Has Chuckles been scheming for the establishment of a totalitarian state since he was first elected 50 years ago?

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 09, 2023 01:12 PM (eGTCV)

60 38 Wasn't Buffalo Guy forced to sign a "no appeals" clause that prevents him from appealing to a different court?

Nothing shady there. Nope. Nuh uh.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at March 09, 2023 01:09 PM (+sD5M)
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Yes, but that's routine as part of a plea deal. A deal is "final" in that both defense and prosecution agree that the case is over. What was shady AF was the whole plea deal to begin with. See my post above.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 09, 2023 01:12 PM (iFTx/)

61 Heads should roll but that "is not who we are as a nation" anymore.

And I fear Fauci and Pfizer will soon have another scalp. A co-worker is out with brain cancer. It won't even be associated with that evil vaccine; its a previous cancer from long before covid, that came out of remission; but *I* blame Fauci and the clot shot.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 09, 2023 01:12 PM (3cGpq)

62 46 DoJ prosecutors pulled this same shit in the Enron trial and the Sen. Ted Stevens trial. They were found out. But NOT punished. Arthur Anderson was immorally destroyed as a company, and Ted Stevens, under a cloud, lost his Senate seat.

Two wins for the bad guys at the DoJ.
Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at March 09, 2023 01:10 PM (5wSwv)

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"I still have memories of those...I chaffed for days after them."
-Patterico

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:12 PM (LvTSG)

63 Wouldn't his plea bargain potentially be revoked of the prosecution withheld evidence? How is that not grounds for appeal, unless he admitted to some type of criminal behavior in the plea?

Posted by: Marcus T at March 09, 2023 01:12 PM (J47y1)

64 Joey's 'budget' proposal $6.8T

something, something pretty soon you're talking about real money.

Not a penny less! Equity hangs in the balance.

Posted by: micky at March 09, 2023 01:13 PM (3byMq)

65 Shouldn't those attorneys be disbarred and then tried? But I'm not a pundit.

Given that lawyers write the laws, I am certain there is no law actually punishing lawyers for doing this kind of thing. They might get disbarred for being bad people, but there are no legal repercussions.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 09, 2023 01:13 PM (0hOvj)

66 Antifa/Black Bloc assholes changing clothes at J6...

Chuck Callesto @ChuckCallesto
JUST IN: Censored video re-emerges of ANTIFA IN BLACK CLAD disrobing and changing into Trump gear on January 6.
WON’T SEE THIS ON CNN.
https://tinyurl.com/42kkp878

Chuck Callesto @ChuckCallesto
JUST IN: Censored video re-emerges of ANTIFA IN BLACK CLAD attempting to break into the capitol while Trump supporters attempt to protect the building.
WON’T SEE THIS ON CNN.
https://tinyurl.com/yc33yrxk

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 09, 2023 01:13 PM (Vwz3I)

67 Has the floor that viciously assaulted Mitch McConnell been charged?

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 09, 2023 01:13 PM (eGTCV)

68

J6 LIES ARE DONE, New Filing DEMANDS Mistrial After Feds CAUGHT Fabricating And DESTROYING Evidence

https://tinyurl.com/4bdp4akr

this is a new timcast

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 09, 2023 01:13 PM (9qHsE)

69 Still holding out a glimmer of hope that Chuck Schumer is caught up in the whirlwind that was supposedly released a while back.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 09, 2023 01:08 PM (TNyrE)

What are you referring to?

Posted by: JoeF. at March 09, 2023 01:13 PM (mR6Gs)

70 63 Wouldn't his plea bargain potentially be revoked of the prosecution withheld evidence? How is that not grounds for appeal, unless he admitted to some type of criminal behavior in the plea?
Posted by: Marcus T at March 09, 2023 01:12 PM (J47y1)

=======

We live in clownworld where Justice Sullivan was able to continue a case against Mike Flynn after the prosecutors had outright dropped their prosectution.

What do you think?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:13 PM (LvTSG)

71 Yes, but that's routine as part of a plea deal. A deal is "final" in that both defense and prosecution agree that the case is over. What was shady AF was the whole plea deal to begin with. See my post above.

Posted by: Elric Blade

If the prosecution withheld evidence, I would think that that nullifies the plea deal.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 09, 2023 01:13 PM (lTGtQ)

72 DeSantis: “Run A Boat From The Bahamas” To Allow Unvaxxed Tennis Player Blocked By Biden Admin Into US

Mah man.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 09, 2023 01:14 PM (E+05M)

73 But if there is, punish the defenders for failing their clients, which they really still think is dangerous and should be a long time in prison.
Posted by: Axeman at March 09, 2023 01:10 PM (krQz2)

The reason the Brady rule was established is that there is no physical or legal way for a defender get his hands on such evidence unless the Prosecution gives it to them. Which is why the rule is that it is absolutely *mandatory* for the Prosecution to give exculpatory evidence to the defense even without being asked for it specifically. (How can the defense ask for what they don't know exists?)

and any conviction or plea based on a Brady violation should be immediately vacated.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 09, 2023 01:14 PM (trdmm)

74 I heard Mitch McConnell broke his neck on a fall. Shame.

Turtles have necks?

Posted by: Ian S. at March 09, 2023 01:14 PM (ZGrMX)

75 Reality: Capitol Police are guilty of entrapment.

Also reality: Ted Cruz and Rand Paul voted to award them medals of bravery.

I expect ambulatory shitstains like Schumer to be a traitor. I don't expect those putatively on my side to shiv me in the back.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 09, 2023 01:14 PM (AW0uW)

76 Yes, but that's routine as part of a plea deal. A deal is "final" in that both defense and prosecution agree that the case is over. What was shady AF was the whole plea deal to begin with. See my post above.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 09, 2023 01:12 PM (iFTx/)
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And everything leading up to it. His defense counsel appears to have assisted with railroading him but even that wouldn't have been enough.

Arrest, solitary confinement, abuse - all of the shit that led up to the plea - was a form of torture to break him down and get him to sign. Then they threw the book at him for his "crimes."

Just because he wasn't beaten up or broken on a wheel doesn't mean he wasn't tortured until they extracted a forced confession.

The Dread Lubyanka is alive and well.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:14 PM (t0OGg)

77 Chansley's current attorney has a different story. He says the prosecutors were dragging their feet on turning over the footage (to the tune of months in solitary confinement as a pressure tactic), but Watkins was also was pressuring Chansley, telling him he already had over $1 million in legal fees when he had only made 5 filings in the case. And that Watkins did not demand the footage be turned over before making a plea deal.

I guess we will see what the details are, but it is pretty clear they all worked together to jail dissidents --- both sides of the system.

Posted by: Thatch at March 09, 2023 01:15 PM (A+k5G)

78 The reason the Brady rule was established is that there is no physical or legal way for a defender get his hands on such evidence unless the Prosecution gives it to them. Which is why the rule is that it is absolutely *mandatory* for the Prosecution to give exculpatory evidence to the defense even without being asked for it specifically. (How can the defense ask for what they don't know exists?)

and any conviction or plea based on a Brady violation should be immediately vacated.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 09, 2023 01:14 PM (trdmm)
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Maybe the prosecution should watch "My Cousin Vinnie" for a refresher on how the law actually works.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 09, 2023 01:15 PM (YIVH2)

79 I saw NR Andrew McCarthy’s hot take: the prosecutor didn’t need to hand over the video because it showed Chansley guilty of the obstruction of official proceedings charge.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 09, 2023 01:16 PM (SLV5u)

80 Maybe the prosecution should watch "My Cousin Vinnie" for a refresher on how the law actually works.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 09, 2023 01:15 PM (YIVH2)

They watched 'The Lives of Others' instead. There is no law. Only power.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:16 PM (lEVn+)

81 I heard Mitch McConnell broke his neck on a fall. Shame.

Turtles have necks?
Posted by: Ian S. at March 09, 2023 01:14 PM (ZGrMX)

he fell out of his shell, naked for all to see, the wrinkly old reptile

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 09, 2023 01:16 PM (9qHsE)

82 Two wins for the bad guys at the DoJ.
Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at March 09, 2023 01:10 PM (5wSwv)

The DoJ? The same DoJ who works cock-in-mouth with the federal judiciary? That DoJ?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 09, 2023 01:16 PM (GYIa4)

83 47 this is what burned Nifong in the infamous Duke Rape case.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 09, 2023 01:10 PM (trdmm)
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That was another era and another country.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:10 PM (t0OGg)
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And also a state case. A red state at that. The federal legal system is a whole different animal, especially when we're talking about the wretched hive of scum and villainy that is DC. And the railroaded Duke kids (or rather their parents) had the money and resources to pursue justice.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 09, 2023 01:16 PM (iFTx/)

84 78 Maybe the prosecution should watch "My Cousin Vinnie" for a refresher on how the law actually works.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 09, 2023 01:15 PM (YIVH2)

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Maybe you should watch The Texas Chainsaw Massacre to get a refresher on how government works.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:16 PM (LvTSG)

85 The Democrat/ Marxists Kangaroo Court

If it was some state Court the case would get tossed hiding evidence from the defendant

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2023 01:16 PM (SYMHJ)

86 Ye Olde Insurrection was so violent, we had to hide all the footage to protect our younger viewers!

We were protecting the children!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 09, 2023 01:16 PM (1Gm0O)

87 Wouldn't his plea bargain potentially be revoked of the prosecution withheld evidence? How is that not grounds for appeal, unless he admitted to some type of criminal behavior in the plea?
Posted by: Marcus T at March 09, 2023 01:12 PM (J47y1)
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1. He did admit to criminal behavior in the plea. That's what a plea bargain is.
2. Whatever he admitted to is irrelevant. The plea is invalid because it was extracted under duress. It was a forced confession extracted through torture.
3. All of the above is irrelevant. The organs of state security do whatever they want, to whomever they please. This is neither a system of justice nor a system of law. This is a system of oppression.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:16 PM (t0OGg)

88 'budget' proposal $6.8T

So the budget only doubled in the past eight years?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 09, 2023 01:16 PM (lTGtQ)

89 Biden neck info from the Babylon Bee...

https://tinyurl.com/2upxd39n

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 09, 2023 01:17 PM (Vwz3I)

90 61 my client whose husband got guillain-barré syndrome from the shot now has terminal cancer, just like my mother. Heads should roll, but they won’t.

Meanwhile others are getting $21k because cops were rude while they destroyed cities. I don’t expect anything close to justice anymore for anything.

Posted by: Piper at March 09, 2023 01:17 PM (ZdaMQ)

91 What are you referring to?

Posted by: JoeF. at March 09, 2023 01:13 PM (mR6Gs)

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Schumer's rant about Gorsuch and Kavanaugh releasing the whirlwind, regarding the overturning of Roe v Wade, and that they would "pay the price".

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 09, 2023 01:17 PM (TNyrE)

92 I saw NR Andrew McCarthy’s hot take: the prosecutor didn’t need to hand over the video because it showed Chansley guilty of the obstruction of official proceedings charge.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 09, 2023 01:16 PM (SLV5u)

Ole Andy never fails to disappoint

Posted by: JoeF. at March 09, 2023 01:17 PM (mR6Gs)

93 A classic case of entrapment, imho.
Appeal it, free Chansley.
Last time it looked it wasn't a crime to be an eccentric.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, back to bipedal status at March 09, 2023 01:17 PM (jTmQV)

94 I can't live my life in a continual state of anger and outrage over the lies and injustices so commonplace nowadays yet can't look away either, not in good conscience. So frustrating too that I can't think of anything I can do as an individual to make things better. I have sent money to J6 prisoner fundraisers but that doesn't affect the cause, just the symptom.

Now I know exactly how people feel in those authoritarian Third World shitholes. This is oppression and it's new to my experience. I hate it. I hate those doing it. Hate them.

Posted by: troyriser at March 09, 2023 01:17 PM (7Cx1V)

95 You would be if you were duped.

He wasn't duped. He - like the rest of them, probably including the defense attorneys - was in on it. Nobody was "duped."

This is all sounding a lot like, "if only Comrade Stalin knew!" Bullshit.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Most people do not realize that the local courtroom set of defense lawyers and prosecutors are actually on quite friendly terms because they have to deal with each other long after your case has come and gone. Many defense attorneys for those who cannot afford to pay much if any are there to negotiate your plea--not to contest your guilt at trial.

If innocent, you want lawyers used to trying high profile cases in the news and that are not part of the local courtroom set but you will pay dearly for them. About 10 to 15k for a no bill at grand jury and at least 50k and up to the moon if you go to trial.

Posted by: whig at March 09, 2023 01:17 PM (g9h8E)

96 ROSE Royce. 1976
Posted by: JoeF.

the summer I worked at a car wash. that movie was basically a documentary.

Posted by: x at March 09, 2023 01:17 PM (ZBPE2)

97 I expect ambulatory shitstains like Schumer to be a traitor. I don't expect those putatively on my side to shiv me in the back.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 09, 2023 01:14 PM (AW0uW)

You don't? No ex-spouse in your past then, huh?

Posted by: De rigeur for some at March 09, 2023 01:17 PM (II3Gr)

98 They're all on the same side!... Here you have people with shared interests.
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exhibit 95,943, 211. And not the last. The Uniparty is real. And it needs its ass kicked into oblivion.

Posted by: Do you SEE IT at March 09, 2023 01:17 PM (Ol14X)

99 Keep pounding this ace.

Totally agree.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 09, 2023 01:17 PM (Xrfse)

100
Of course McConnell has a neck. After the GOP removed his spine, they installed a new one manufactured by Siasun Robotics.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 09, 2023 01:17 PM (oINRc)

101 BLM or Antifa could have swarmed the actual House Floor and nothing would have happened.

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 09, 2023 01:18 PM (9qHsE)

102 They watched 'The Lives of Others' instead. There is no law. Only power.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:16 PM (lEVn+)
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Carve it into stone. This is a perfect comment.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:18 PM (t0OGg)

103 Meanwhile in another excellent government move, looks like Fauci killed a million people.

Posted by: Caliban at March 09, 2023 01:18 PM (iC8vi)

104 Maybe you should watch The Texas Chainsaw Massacre to get a refresher on how government works.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:16 PM (LvTSG)

or "The Death of Stalin".

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 09, 2023 01:18 PM (trdmm)

105 "If the prosecution withheld evidence, I would think that that nullifies the plea deal."

I think so too. The plea has to be "knowing and voluntary." Well, it can't be "knowing" if material exculpatory evidence was withheld.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at March 09, 2023 01:18 PM (fTtFy)

106 Schumer's rant about Gorsuch and Kavanaugh releasing the whirlwind, regarding the overturning of Roe v Wade, and that they would "pay the price".
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 09, 2023 01:17 PM (TNyrE)

He didn't learn his lesson---witness his tirade the other day warning that Tucker must be "stopped."

Posted by: JoeF. at March 09, 2023 01:18 PM (mR6Gs)

107 Albert Watkins, whose client Jacob Chansley pleaded guilty to felony charges in connection with the Capitol riot and was sentenced to 41 months in prison, said Department of Justice prosecutors were legally bound to turn over the footage.
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Legally bound. Funny. That's pre-feudalist dictatorship thinking, Comrade.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 09, 2023 01:18 PM (syJdX)

108 71 Yes, but that's routine as part of a plea deal. A deal is "final" in that both defense and prosecution agree that the case is over. What was shady AF was the whole plea deal to begin with. See my post above.

Posted by: Elric Blade

If the prosecution withheld evidence, I would think that that nullifies the plea deal.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 09, 2023 01:13 PM (lTGtQ)

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Yea, but I believe he'd have to make an application to the court -- the same judge who gleefully participated in his railroading. Call me pessimistic, but I think the poor guy is fucked and won't get unfucked.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 09, 2023 01:18 PM (iFTx/)

109 Joey's 'budget' proposal $6.8T
Posted by: micky at March 09, 2023 01:13 PM (3byMq)
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Here's how I foresee it going:
1. The executive sends a proposal over
2. The House laughs and sends their own, fairly aggressive budget to the Senate
3. The Senate refuses to pass the budget (likely) or passes it and sends it upstairs for a veto (less likely).
4. The House and Senate pass some paper back and forth. The "government shutdown" clock continues to tick down.
5. At the 11th hour (likely) or after a week or two of "government shutdown" (less likely), the House sends a monstrous budget to the Senate. It will be smaller than the budget demanded by the executive, but still huge and maintaining funding for all the organs of state security
6. The Senate passes the budget and the President signs it
7. McCarthy apologizes for it, but his hands were tied. You can only do so much with 1/2 of 1/3 of government.

Stage 1: Clear.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:18 PM (t0OGg)

110 94 I can't live my life in a continual state of anger and outrage over the lies and injustices so commonplace nowadays yet can't look away either, not in good conscience. So frustrating too that I can't think of anything I can do as an individual to make things better. I have sent money to J6 prisoner fundraisers but that doesn't affect the cause, just the symptom.

Now I know exactly how people feel in those authoritarian Third World shitholes. This is oppression and it's new to my experience. I hate it. I hate those doing it. Hate them.
Posted by: troyriser
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What you are seeing is that the velvet glove that hid the steel fist is being revealed. Courts have not resembled a justice system for a long while now but are best viewed as a legal system where the skill of the attorney and the money you can pay for your defense determines your fate at trial.

Posted by: whig at March 09, 2023 01:19 PM (g9h8E)

111 Don't be so sure about Royce Lamberth. Regardless of what statements he made about 'insurrectionists', he was the primary judge in the 90s ruling against the Clintons.

Posted by: MikeN at March 09, 2023 01:19 PM (XygMV)

112 106 Schumer's rant about Gorsuch and Kavanaugh releasing the whirlwind, regarding the overturning of Roe v Wade, and that they would "pay the price".
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 09, 2023 01:17 PM (TNyrE)

He didn't learn his lesson---witness his tirade the other day warning that Tucker must be "stopped."
Posted by: JoeF. at March 09, 2023 01:18 PM (mR6Gs)

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What lesson? He probably raised good money from big dollar donors for both speeches.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:19 PM (LvTSG)

113 A Brady violation like this is a BFD. This is as bad as a prosecutor hiding a bloody dagger in a murder trial. The lawyer's guild and other professional associations should be screaming bloody murder. This is third world level crooked shit.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 09, 2023 01:19 PM (eyxn4)

114 I can't live my life in a continual state of anger and outrage over the lies and injustices so commonplace nowadays yet can't look away either, not in good conscience. So frustrating too that I can't think of anything I can do as an individual to make things better. I have sent money to J6 prisoner fundraisers but that doesn't affect the cause, just the symptom.
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Turn to the Lord.

He never disappoints, and you will find peace in this world that will carry over to the next.

Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 09, 2023 01:19 PM (Euy4o)

115 "I read that "people" were saying Tucker held back in the second day of reports. Has anyone else seen that? Is it clickbait or is there some juice there?"

idk, I hear he had no new video, but responded to the attacks. Not sure if he has promised more video ... seems there would be much more.

But indeed, there is a lot of damning info/video already available ... nice that Tucker is getting attention on the issue.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 09, 2023 01:19 PM (Cus5s)

116 Man it's still jarring every time I scroll down on the front page and Groot pops up in the sidebar.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 09, 2023 01:19 PM (z/ifB)

117 109 7. McCarthy apologizes for it, but his hands were tied. You can only do so much with 1/2 of 1/3 of government.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:18 PM (t0OGg)

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Stage 8: Hillary become president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:19 PM (LvTSG)

118
Maybe you should watch The Texas Chainsaw Massacre to get a refresher on how government works.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:16 PM (LvTSG)
heh

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 09, 2023 01:19 PM (9qHsE)

119 For the future, we need to carefully and thoroughly contemplate that Mitch McConnell hallway statement. If McConnell really wanted to hammer Carlson, then basing his (McConnell's) opinion on the memo issued by a federal cop as his sole reason for denying Carlson's First Amendment rights is a very frightening thing. Why bother with elections when laws and edicts can be issued by federal officers?

Posted by: mrp at March 09, 2023 01:20 PM (rj6Yv)

120 By the way, Barney Miller is on Amazon Prime, there are multiple seasons. I watched the first two episodes and it holds up really well, its as fun and likable as I remember. Barney Miller annoys me less than he used to as well.

The really strange thing is that I recall every single show being in two sets: Barney's office and the squad room. That's it.

But the first episode has two scenes at Barney's house with his wife and kids. I don't think they EVER use that set again. The show was clearly meant to be about Barney (thus, the name) but it very rapidly ended up being an ensemble show with everyone being a star.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 09, 2023 01:20 PM (0hOvj)

121 Arrest and jail the lead persecutor, Michael Sherwin.

Posted by: AJ Lynch at March 09, 2023 01:20 PM (qCvxM)

122 Tucker revealed plenty on Monday night.
Whether or not he got throttled later is somewhat moot.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, back to bipedal status at March 09, 2023 01:20 PM (jTmQV)

123 This should put doubt in EVERY J6 case, but it won't. The judges and prosecutors and politicians are all-in on these modern Stalinist trials. You're guilty, comrade, whether you know it or not.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 09, 2023 01:20 PM (ynpvh)

124 A bar member publicly accusing an United States attorney of lying is kind of a big deal, not something one does without proof, if one is wise.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 09, 2023 01:20 PM (trVDr)

125 he fell out of his shell, naked for all to see, the wrinkly old reptile
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 09, 2023 01:16 PM (9qHsE)

(sigh)

Posted by: Elaine Chao at March 09, 2023 01:21 PM (mR6Gs)

126 The reason the Brady rule was established is that there is no physical or legal way for a defender get his hands on such evidence unless the Prosecution gives it to them. Which is why the rule is that it is absolutely *mandatory* for the Prosecution to give exculpatory evidence to the defense even without being asked for it specifically. (How can the defense ask for what they don't know exists?)

and any conviction or plea based on a Brady violation should be immediately vacated.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 09, 2023 01:14 PM (trdmm)

The DC Federal Court of Appeals will hear motions filed by Chansley's lawyer on, oh, about the 12th of Never.

Posted by: Gref at March 09, 2023 01:21 PM (AMIL/)

127 >Watkins was in on the scam from the beginning. Whether he did or did not have the video is irrelevant.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 09, 2023 01:06 PM (iFTx/)

Absolutely this. He made prejudicial public statements about Chansley and all Trump supporters. The whole thing is yet another op.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 09, 2023 01:21 PM (uFzkb)

128 Man it's still jarring every time I scroll down on the front page and Groot pops up in the sidebar.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 09, 2023 01:19 PM (z/ifB)

I blocked that pic with a blocker.

Posted by: ... at March 09, 2023 01:21 PM (1aEnd)

129 I heard Mitch McConnell broke his neck on a fall. Shame.

Posted by: Veritas

He tripped and fell and tried landing on his chin, but forgot that he doesn't have one.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at March 09, 2023 01:21 PM (Elf9u)

130 If the prosecution withheld evidence, I would think that that nullifies the plea deal.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 09, 2023 01:13 PM (lTGtQ)

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Yea, but I believe he'd have to make an application to the court -- the same judge who gleefully participated in his railroading. Call me pessimistic, but I think the poor guy is fucked and won't get unfucked.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Elric is probably right. First, the DC judges are acting under teh cover of the leftist leaning DC Court of Appeals. It would take a direct interest by at least 4 Scotus justices to take the case.

But it is reason enough for a GOP president to launch investigations of all DC court judges and their spouses/families for corruption and partisanship.

Posted by: whig at March 09, 2023 01:21 PM (g9h8E)

131 I want a free Jacob tee shirt with his pic. Annoy the masked Biden voters at the supermarket.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 09, 2023 01:21 PM (KiBMU)

132 A classic case of entrapment, imho.
Appeal it, free Chansley.
Last time it looked it wasn't a crime to be an eccentric.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, back to bipedal status at March 09, 2023 01:17 PM (jTmQV)

On Tucker, the lawyer said he had mental issues, and they knew he had mental issues. They did not take this into account when they put him in isolation for months.

This is torture.

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 09, 2023 01:21 PM (9qHsE)

133 McCarthy should go brush his yellow teeth. If anything the new video is esculpatory in the sense that Chanely was not violent nor a "leader" as the prosecution alleged. Even if he was guilty of the charge, those were all factors in his plea and sentencing, jackass.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 09, 2023 01:21 PM (J47y1)

134 I guess we will see what the details are, but it is pretty clear they all worked together to jail dissidents --- both sides of the system.

==
Because they want you to shut up and stay at home, the next time they steal the election. And yes, there is going to be a next time, or else they wouldn't bother with this shit show now.

Posted by: Do you SEE IT at March 09, 2023 01:22 PM (kbHL8)

135 Watkins rubbished his client on 60 minutes vyshinsky would be proud

Posted by: No 6 at March 09, 2023 01:22 PM (PXvVL)

136 >>>Prosecute the prosecutors.

We are beyond this being any rectification.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 09, 2023 01:22 PM (PyOKD)

137 Senator McConnell might have been seriously injured if not for the fact that his voluminous flapping wattles slowed the speed of his fall as well as cushioned the impact.

These sorts of safety features should be made mandatory.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2023 01:23 PM (ykeLU)

138 The DC Federal Court of Appeals will hear motions filed by Chansley's lawyer on, oh, about the 12th of Never.
Posted by: Gref at March 09, 2023 01:21 PM (AMIL/)
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Nah. They'll hear it.

They like a good belly laugh as much as the next guy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:23 PM (t0OGg)

139 I thought the UN was all about justice. Shouldn't they be fussing about this?

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 09, 2023 01:23 PM (eGTCV)

140 73 But if there is, punish the defenders for failing their clients, which they really still think is dangerous and should be a long time in prison.
Posted by: Axeman at March 09, 2023 01:10 PM (krQz2)

The reason the Brady rule was established is that there is no physical or legal way for a defender get his hands on such evidence unless the Prosecution gives it to them. Which is why the rule is that it is absolutely *mandatory* for the Prosecution to give exculpatory evidence to the defense even without being asked for it specifically. (How can the defense ask for what they don't know exists?)

and any conviction or plea based on a Brady violation should be immediately vacated.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 09, 2023 01:14 PM (trdmm)

Tom Brady is a tax

Posted by: Dread SCOTUS Judge Roberts at March 09, 2023 01:23 PM (ynpvh)

141 Senator McConnell might have been seriously injured if not for the fact that his voluminous flapping wattles slowed the speed of his fall as well as cushioned the impact.

These sorts of safety features should be made mandatory.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2023 01:23 PM (ykeLU)
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Now, now, you know very well that those safety features are only available to the "elite" because their life and safety is more valuable that yours.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 09, 2023 01:24 PM (YIVH2)

142 I'd love to report on DU's take on this...but they must be a bit behind. Still cheerleading arrests, and hoping for more.

The Justice Department has reached a milestone in its prosecution of the U.S. Capitol attack, confirming it has arrested at least 1,000 people in connection with the Jan. 6, 2021 assault on the Capitol, nearly half of whom still face the prospect of trials or plea agreements.

Slightly more than half of the men and women charged with federal crimes in the Jan. 6 attack have entered guilty pleas in their cases. But even as cases close, new defendants and charges continue to surface, which could stretch the overall prosecution well into 2024, if not beyond.

1,000 arrests, yet they still haven't arrested that guy who said, "Let's march to the Capitol and fight like Hell!" Seems like the guy who started the whole thing would be Arrest #1.

I'm sure he's shaking in his boots while planning his next 8 months of campaign stops

Necessary, but not sufficient. The top people HAVE to be punished. Our democracy depends on it.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 09, 2023 01:24 PM (7EVYd)

143 What I fear most is that they will push and push and push until finally we reach the horrible moment that people's natural resistance to violence and rage breaks and things go full riot mode. I don't want to see nooses, I don't want to see fires and tumbrels and bombs.

But if they keep pushing, if they keep mocking us to our faces and they keep violating justice that day will come, God help us all.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 09, 2023 01:24 PM (0hOvj)

144 A Brady violation like this is a BFD. This is as bad as a prosecutor hiding a bloody dagger in a murder trial. The lawyer's guild and other professional associations should be screaming bloody murder. This is third world level crooked shit.
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Ha ha ha ha ha

Posted by: Lawyers who lied to FISA Court Judges at March 09, 2023 01:24 PM (ClOIl)

145 Tucker is fighting the narrative and they won't give up.
Lying sacks of political shit.

Posted by: wth at March 09, 2023 01:24 PM (v0R5T)

146 @23

>>Even without that video, the shaman was accused of nothing more than trespassing or "parading" in a public space.

Unless we know what charges the DOJ was holding over the Shamans head, I am going to assume that his lawyer gave the best counsel to his client.

The way these humps at the DOJ operate is they hold serious multi-decade charges over a defendants head and tell them that if you plea and cooperate, we will take that in exchange for lesser charges.

Now the Shaman could have rejected the plea and taken his chances in a DC court, but that would be too risky a gamble.

It's a crooked game but that's the game.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 09, 2023 01:25 PM (MDmJR)

147 IN the filing that tim Poole in the timcast I link above, whoever is filing it, wrote that hundreds of pieces of evidence were fabricated and requested to be destroyed

hoo boy.... dirty

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 09, 2023 01:25 PM (9qHsE)

148 Oops, oopsie. Oh that video. We didn't know you wanted that video. Our bad. We will have those responsible go to training in the Virgin Islands for two weeks.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 09, 2023 01:25 PM (17s+e)

149 I don't know what to think until Andy McCarthy writes a column about his good, upstanding federal prosecutor buddies.

Posted by: Beartooth at March 09, 2023 01:25 PM (H4JoC)

150 yes, there is going to be a next time, or else they wouldn't bother with this shit show now.
Posted by: Do you SEE IT at March 09, 2023 01:22 PM (kbHL

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When they got away with it the first time, that guarateed it last November, and every future November.

We needed the people of 5 shithole states to march to their legislatures and drag their reps out by their hair. The fear of God needed to descend upon those scumbags, but their constituents are too dependent upon their checks to upset the system. Most have instead chose to fight to protect that system.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 09, 2023 01:25 PM (syJdX)

151 Necessary, but not sufficient. The top people HAVE to be punished. Our democracy depends on it.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 09, 2023 01:24 PM (7EVYd)
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I agree completely.

Oh, wait. This lunatic is talking about *Trump* and not the entire power structure of Washington, DC, isn't he?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:26 PM (t0OGg)

152 not that it matters but Chansley's mouthpiece sounded a little like a drinker

Posted by: REDACTED at March 09, 2023 01:26 PM (us2H3)

153 But if they keep pushing, if they keep mocking us to our faces and they keep violating justice that day will come, God help us all.
==
Fear not. Its a ways off. People won't do anything until they start starving. Actually they'll starve for a while, but then some fat elite asshole will make fun of them starving and that's when the shit hits the fan.

Posted by: History rhymes like Muldoon, ridiculously at March 09, 2023 01:26 PM (xAdp9)

154 "But those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint."
~Isaiah 40:31

Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 09, 2023 01:26 PM (Euy4o)

155 'budget' proposal $6.8T
.......

I don't think that word 'budget' means what they think it means.

Posted by: wth at March 09, 2023 01:26 PM (v0R5T)

156 151 I agree completely.

Oh, wait. This lunatic is talking about *Trump* and not the entire power structure of Washington, DC, isn't he?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:26 PM (t0OGg)

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Listen, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, and Chuck Schumer are completely free of any wrongdoing, and to even hint that they are should lead to solitary confinement for 13 months.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:26 PM (LvTSG)

157 105 "If the prosecution withheld evidence, I would think that that nullifies the plea deal."

I think so too. The plea has to be "knowing and voluntary." Well, it can't be "knowing" if material exculpatory evidence was withheld.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at March 09, 2023 01:18 PM (fTtFy)

"But he was there, so he should have known"--DOJ

Posted by: Dread SCOTUS Judge Roberts at March 09, 2023 01:26 PM (ynpvh)

158 off SCROTUS sock

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 09, 2023 01:27 PM (ynpvh)

159 One of the offices, federal prosecutors recently disclosed, belonged to Republican Jim Risch, the 79-year-old junior senator from Idaho, where Trump is tremendously popular. Video shows a rioter — who has pleaded guilty to driving a stun gun into a police officer's neck, nearly killing him — smashing out Risch's window overlooking the Washington Monument and the national mall in an attempt to let more rioters into the building.

I'd like to see this video, and subsequent video of the officer that was zapped. I'm sure the allegation that he was nearly killed is 100% accurate, and not hyperbolic at all.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 09, 2023 01:27 PM (7EVYd)

160 Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson

Jacob Chansley's Mother on her son: “He has been and still is a supporter of Trump, President Donald Trump… You can call him America's Shaman. He likes that.”
*Mom said son is in prison in Arizona

https://tinyurl.com/3hk9n76e

Posted by: redridinghood at March 09, 2023 01:27 PM (NpAcC)

161 >>>Prosecute the prosecutors.

We are beyond this being any rectification.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 09, 2023 01:22 PM (PyOKD)
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We are well beyond even the possibility.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 09, 2023 01:27 PM (syJdX)

162 113 A Brady violation like this is a BFD. This is as bad as a prosecutor hiding a bloody dagger in a murder trial. The lawyer's guild and other professional associations should be screaming bloody murder. This is third world level crooked shit.
Posted by: bonhomme
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bonhomme,
Prosecutors do this shit and have done this shit for forever which is why the Brady rule was instituted and that the trial courts have refused to apply much in fact except to attorneys they dislike. One of the key problems for the defense is that unless the defendant is able to pay for their own experts and investigators to aid their attorney, they are left with either arguing someone else did it or the other dude did it. Soddi or Toddi are the terms.

There has been a continuous stream of DOJ lawyers lying in court, failing to disclose evidence favorable to the defense, not reporting misconduct such as spying on defendant lawyer communications and so forth.

Prosecutors do not view their role, by and large as doing justice--but instead the goal is to win so as to rise in the system.

Posted by: whig at March 09, 2023 01:27 PM (g9h8E)

163 "Call me pessimistic, but I think the poor guy is fucked and won't get unfucked."

yeah, and he signed some deal to no repeal or whatever. Julie Kelly was on and I thought she had he only had several months left. He'd already been held for ~20 months, but would have 20+ remaining. I wonder if there is some early release for good behavior or something.

It's been an orgy of misconduct and false imprisonment by the goons that usurped control of the FBI/DOJ.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 09, 2023 01:27 PM (Cus5s)

164 120- Barney really hit its stride in season 3 or 4 when Steve Landesberg came aboard as Dietrich. Think he played a grifter perp impersonating a priest in earlier seasons.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 09, 2023 01:27 PM (trVDr)

165 Tucker is fighting the narrative and they won't give up.
Lying sacks of political shit.
Posted by: wth at March 09, 2023 01:24 PM (v0R5T)

Glenn Beck asked Tucker for access to the video. Tucker said no one else has even asked to view it. Other people need their hands on this as I fear for Tucker's life.

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 09, 2023 01:27 PM (9qHsE)

166 The first season tried to show Barney's home life too but they dumped it because there wasn't enough time in '30 minutes' to cover home and work both.

Search for 'elizabeth miller' to get her appearances...
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072472/
fullcredits/?ref_=tt_cl_sm

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 09, 2023 01:28 PM (Vwz3I)

167 We will have those responsible go to training in the Virgin Islands for two weeks.

The Virgin Islands are now just "The Islands" after my last vacation.

Posted by: The Paolo at March 09, 2023 01:28 PM (ZGrMX)

168 148 Oops, oopsie. Oh that video. We didn't know you wanted that video. Our bad. We will have those responsible go to training in the Virgin Islands for two weeks.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 09, 2023 01:25 PM (17s+e)

Here let me save it down to 20x20 resolution and email it to you.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 09, 2023 01:28 PM (z/ifB)

169 I think the legal problem will be that the withheld video actually shows the conduct that the shaman pleaded guilty to. So it's not exculpatory in the usual sense.

Remember, the shaman pleaded guilty to a phony-baloney, made up "crime" that amounted to basically being in the Capitol on January 6. The video shows him in the Capitol on January 6. So what does the video show that actually undermines the "crime" to which he pleaded?

As I commented above, this poor schmuck was fucked and railroaded from the beginning, and the odds of him ever being unfucked is very low.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 09, 2023 01:28 PM (iFTx/)

170 >>129 I heard Mitch McConnell broke his neck on a fall. Shame.

Posted by: Veritas

He'll be wheeled back into the Senate in a Capt Pike chair with only his turtle head sticking out of the box.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 09, 2023 01:28 PM (E+05M)

171 Fear not. Its a ways off.

It could be a century away, it could be tomorrow. Nobody ever knows when or what will trigger it. Everyone knows its coming but the moment it breaks loose always takes everyone by surprise.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 09, 2023 01:28 PM (0hOvj)

172 not that it matters but Chansley's mouthpiece sounded a little like a drinker
==
he is a federal criminal defense lawyer. You'd drink too if your spent your life going up against the government with life/death freedom on the line.

Posted by: Think about it at March 09, 2023 01:28 PM (JnqTX)

173 'But ol' Royce Lamberth will make some excuses for the prosecutors.'

Then his future rulings can be null and void since the rule of law doesn't mean much to him.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 09, 2023 01:29 PM (a1ycR)

174 We are well beyond even the possibility.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 09, 2023 01:27 PM (syJdX)

Fair.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 09, 2023 01:29 PM (PyOKD)

175 Guys, remember the hell that rained down upon those that falsified all those FISA warrants?

Yeah, me either.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 09, 2023 01:29 PM (KbCG3)

176 hundreds of pieces of evidence were fabricated and requested to be destroyed

by age ents on the ground

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 09, 2023 01:29 PM (9qHsE)

177 #166 Daughter Rachel Miller 3 episodes!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 09, 2023 01:29 PM (Vwz3I)

178 Meanwhile others are getting $21k because cops were rude while they destroyed cities. I don’t expect anything close to justice anymore for anything.
Posted by: Piper at March 09, 2023 01:17 PM

Not in this life, no.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 09, 2023 01:29 PM (Wnv9h)

179

They are loving playing Venezuela.

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 09, 2023 01:29 PM (9qHsE)

180 ... Republican Jim Risch, the 79-year-old junior senator from Idaho, ...
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 09, 2023 01:27 PM (7EVYd)
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Jeepers. How old is their senior senator?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:30 PM (t0OGg)

181 Fear not. Its a ways off. People won't do anything until they start starving. Actually they'll starve for a while, but then some fat elite asshole will make fun of them starving and that's when the shit hits the fan.
Posted by: History
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Revolts don't happen that way. They generally occur when a subset of the elites view their path to power as killing or subduing other elites in their way. Starving people like in N. Korea are too busy looking for food to survive the next day than to revolt.

Posted by: whig at March 09, 2023 01:30 PM (g9h8E)

182 175 Guys, remember the hell that rained down upon those that falsified all those FISA warrants?

Yeah, me either.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 09, 2023 01:29 PM (KbCG3)

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His law license was suspended for 4 weeks! 4 weeks!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:30 PM (LvTSG)

183 If Turtle was actually on his death bed would he announce his switch to the Democratic Party to ensure the governor appoints a Democrat to replace him?

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 09, 2023 01:30 PM (eGTCV)

184 yeah, and he signed some deal to no repeal or whatever. Julie Kelly was on and I thought she had he only had several months left. He'd already been held for ~20 months, but would have 20+ remaining. I wonder if there is some early release for good behavior or something.

It's been an orgy of misconduct and false imprisonment by the goons that usurped control of the FBI/DOJ.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 09, 2023 01:27 PM (Cus5s)
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I heard he's 4 months away from early release.

So at least there (might be) that.

Posted by: Axeman at March 09, 2023 01:30 PM (krQz2)

185 #94

Troy, you have expressed in the past that you are a believer in the Lord, but the past couple of years so very, very hard for many. You had the devastating experience of having your beloved wife die in your arms, and all the chaos and injustice associated with Covid and this regime . I hope you are still having a connection with the Lord. Here are some thoughts from the Book of Psalms on how to pray when the wicked prosper. You might also look at the prophet Habakkuk who asked why the wicked prosper.

And you did a good thing in giving to the cause of the defendants.

https://tinyurl.com/35p4wuty

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 09, 2023 01:30 PM (YGliX)

186 He wsnt obstructing anything he was escorted to the senate chamber which was empty

Posted by: No 6 at March 09, 2023 01:30 PM (PXvVL)

187 180 ... Republican Jim Risch, the 79-year-old junior senator from Idaho, ...
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 09, 2023 01:27 PM (7EVYd)
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Jeepers. How old is their senior senator?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:30 PM (t0OGg)

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I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:30 PM (LvTSG)

188 114 I can't live my life in a continual state of anger and outrage over the lies and injustices so commonplace nowadays yet can't look away either, not in good conscience. So frustrating too that I can't think of anything I can do as an individual to make things better. I have sent money to J6 prisoner fundraisers but that doesn't affect the cause, just the symptom.
___

Turn to the Lord.

He never disappoints, and you will find peace in this world that will carry over to the next.
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world

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THIS! Amen.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at March 09, 2023 01:30 PM (QLMF6)

189 When they got away with it the first time, that guarateed it last November, and every future November.

yep.. no GOP candidate will ever be allowed to win unless they are thoroughly vetted uniparty

and any protests over a sham election will be met with even swifter and more violent reactions from the uniparty and their enforcers because "insurrection"

Posted by: brak at March 09, 2023 01:30 PM (j5Tg0)

190 Everyone knows its coming but the moment it breaks loose always takes everyone by surprise.
==
Believe me, when there's no food on the store shelves, or you can't afford to buy it if it is there. Its a matter of days.

Posted by: Think about it at March 09, 2023 01:31 PM (fI4KK)

191 As I commented above, this poor schmuck was fucked and railroaded from the beginning, and the odds of him ever being unfucked is very low.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 09, 2023 01:28 PM (iFTx/)
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Zero.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:31 PM (t0OGg)

192 Imagine you are Senator Hawley who was defamed at the 1/6 hearings with a deep fake video and your so-called Republican colleagues bitch because it was altered! He should change his party affiliation to "independent" as a direct response.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 09, 2023 01:31 PM (i6M+w)

193 Prosecute the prosecutors.

the real life prosecutor in "the Thin Blue Line" became a wealthy defense mouthpiece in Dallas

probably retired now

a real creep but nothing ever happened to him that was bad

Posted by: REDACTED at March 09, 2023 01:31 PM (us2H3)

194 Barney really hit its stride in season 3 or 4 when Steve Landesberg came aboard as Dietrich. Think he played a grifter perp impersonating a priest in earlier seasons.

Yeah he fit a gap in the show. Basically everyone was a dumbass schlub (especially Wojciehowicz). I like all the characters, but he fit that missing piece.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 09, 2023 01:31 PM (0hOvj)

195 Guys, remember the hell that rained down upon those that falsified all those FISA warrants?

Yeah, me either.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 09, 2023 01:29 PM (KbCG3)
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That guarantee of piercing glares and tsks at the top of a FISA warrant application stands for nothing anymore.

Posted by: Axeman at March 09, 2023 01:32 PM (krQz2)

196 Tortoise Mishap - a limerick

The Turtle fell down the stair
Did a triple somersault with great flair
Hit the ground with a smack
And flopped around on his back
Waving his legs in the air!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2023 01:32 PM (ykeLU)

197 As noted earlier there is no law, only power. There will be no rectification. There will be no justice. And god isn't going to help anyone.

Posted by: Brace yourselves because it's gonna suck at March 09, 2023 01:32 PM (II3Gr)

198 Regarding exculpatory video Andy McCarthy argues it's actually inculpatory for the crime accused, since it shows him in the capitol when Congress was supposed to be in session. I think he plead guilty to obstructing congressional function or some such. You know, like the left does with political stunts constantly.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 09, 2023 01:32 PM (trVDr)

199 One of the more surreal parts of all this is the same people that have argued all of the political violence in the 60s/70s was COINTELPRO now argue that fed involvement in the J6 protests is "a crazy conspiracy theory"

Posted by: 18-1 at March 09, 2023 01:33 PM (lc5cP)

200 Arrest and jail the lead persecutor, ~~Michael Sherwin~~ Nancy Pelosi.
Posted by: AJ Lynch at March 09, 2023 01:20 PM (qCvxM)

Edited for higher truth.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 09, 2023 01:33 PM (GYIa4)

201 Judge Lamberth, a Reagan appointee, made a name for himself in the 90’s by siding repeatedly w Native Tribes against the federal government.Hope he finds that side of his soul that championed the little guy before to rescue poor Jacob.

Posted by: EveR at March 09, 2023 01:33 PM (+Hd/k)

202 timcast

agent were asking others to remove their name/presence of involvement from the documents

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 09, 2023 01:33 PM (9qHsE)

203 Dietrich was the favorite of my brother and me.

Posted by: Axeman at March 09, 2023 01:33 PM (krQz2)

204 187 180 ... Republican Jim Risch, the 79-year-old junior senator from Idaho, ...
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at March 09, 2023 01:27 PM (7EVYd)
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Jeepers. How old is their senior senator?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:30 PM (t0OGg)

no standing

Posted by: Larry Craig at March 09, 2023 01:33 PM (us2H3)

205 Revolts don't happen that way. They generally occur when a subset of the elites view their path to power as killing or subduing other elites in their way. Starving people like in N. Korea are too busy looking for food to survive the next day than to revolt.
Posted by: whig at March 09, 2023 01:30 PM (g9h8E)
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Like why the EFF party ("Economic Freedom Fighters" - a hardcore racial communist group) is planning their day of rage in South Africa. They're calling it a "National Shutdown" but it's a coordinated street action. They've even telegraphed - openly - that any business choosing to remain open against EEF wishes will be a looting target.

They smell blood in the water over ANC weakness, and are going to try to pull off a revolution to install themselves.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:33 PM (t0OGg)

206 1,000 arrests, yet they still haven't arrested that guy who said, "Let's march to the Capitol and fight like Hell!" Seems like the guy who started the whole thing would be Arrest #1.

--

Welcome to the party, Democrat Underground.

Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 09, 2023 01:33 PM (sL5fe)

207 We will have those responsible go to training in the Virgin Islands for two weeks.

The Virgin Islands are now just "The Islands" after my last vacation.

Posted by: The Paolo
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Yes now they call them the Satisfied & Pregnant Islands.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 09, 2023 01:33 PM (17s+e)

208 Individual state bars should move to end license reciprocity with D.C., at a minimum.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 09, 2023 01:34 PM (i6M+w)

209 I heard Mitch McConnell broke his neck on a fall. Shame.

...

People laugh about growing a protective neck collar but it's a lifesaver.

Posted by: Lumpy Fetterman at March 09, 2023 01:34 PM (z/ifB)

210 Tortoise Mishap - a limerick

The Turtle fell down the stair
Did a triple somersault with great flair
Hit the ground with a smack
And flopped around on his back
Waving his legs in the air!
Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2023 01:32 PM (ykeLU)

lol, good

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 09, 2023 01:34 PM (9qHsE)

211 The Flynn persecution set the groundwork for prosecuting the J6 defendants.

Judge Emmit Sullivan showed DC judges how it's done.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 09, 2023 01:34 PM (2YtOq)

212 We are beyond this being any rectification.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 09, 2023 01:22 PM

We can haz large and moving Torg?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 09, 2023 01:34 PM (Wnv9h)

213 182 175 Guys, remember the hell that rained down upon those that falsified all those FISA warrants? Yeah, me either.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 09, 2023 01:29 PM (KbCG3)
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His law license was suspended for 4 weeks! 4 weeks!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:30 PM

TheJamesMadison,

Help us fight the Extreme Democrats and their corrupt prosecutors in Washington. We need your help! Your donation will help elect strong Republicans to fight for your values and hold liberals accountable! With your assistance, we can grow beyond our limiting one half of one third of government, and hold hearings to bring Democrat malfeasance to light!

Posted by: GOP Fundraising Flyer at March 09, 2023 01:34 PM (7EVYd)

214 198 Regarding exculpatory video Andy McCarthy argues it's actually inculpatory for the crime accused, since it shows him in the capitol when Congress was supposed to be in session. I think he plead guilty to obstructing congressional function or some such. You know, like the left does with political stunts constantly.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 09, 2023 01:32 PM (trVDr)

Legit question as I don't fully understand these intricacies but does this mean that they felt the video affirms his guilt?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 09, 2023 01:34 PM (KbCG3)

215 And Sgt./Capt. Harris was a Republican!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 09, 2023 01:34 PM (Vwz3I)

216 And god isn't going to help anyone.
Posted by: Brace yourselves because it's gonna suck at March 09, 2023 01:32 PM (II3Gr)
___

Yes, He does.

I'll pray that you find your way to Him.

Because you're going to need Him; it's going to get much, much worse.

Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 09, 2023 01:35 PM (Euy4o)

217 198 Regarding exculpatory video Andy McCarthy argues it's actually inculpatory for the crime accused, since it shows him in the capitol when Congress was supposed to be in session. I think he plead guilty to obstructing congressional function or some such. You know, like the left does with political stunts constantly.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 09, 2023 01:32 PM (trVDr)
______________

See my comment above on this issue. But what the shaman's (corrupt) lawyer is saying isn't just that the prosecution didn't turn over the video as exculpatory. He's saying they affirmatively LIED about there not being any such video. That's more than just a Brady violation. But will it matter? Nah.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 09, 2023 01:35 PM (iFTx/)

218 And god isn't going to help anyone.
Posted by: Brace yourselves

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Oh ye of little faith. . . . your generalization doesn't speak for believers.

Posted by: whig at March 09, 2023 01:35 PM (g9h8E)

219

This is ALL about Trump and MAGA.

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 09, 2023 01:35 PM (9qHsE)

220 213 TheJamesMadison,

Help us fight the Extreme Democrats and their corrupt prosecutors in Washington. We need your help! Your donation will help elect strong Republicans to fight for your values and hold liberals accountable! With your assistance, we can grow beyond our limiting one half of one third of government, and hold hearings to bring Democrat malfeasance to light!
Posted by: GOP Fundraising Flyer at March 09, 2023 01:34 PM (7EVYd)

========

I can't commit to a donation until how many matches I get in return.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:36 PM (LvTSG)

221 The lefty radio trolls are out in numbers attacking the hosts in radio Mambi. This is a Hispanic Miami Station recently acquired by Soros funded and Obama alied operatives.

Posted by: Floridachick at March 09, 2023 01:36 PM (k2V7E)

222 We can haz large and moving Torg?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 09, 2023 01:34 PM (Wnv9h)

*snort*

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 09, 2023 01:36 PM (DRSnL)

223 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 09, 2023 01:30 PM (YGliX)

You're right, Fen. I've been in a state of emotional turmoil since my wife's passing and it's become a kind of new normal that colors how I see the world and respond to events. I need to calm the hell down. I need to pray more.

Posted by: troyriser at March 09, 2023 01:36 PM (7Cx1V)

224 And god isn't going to help anyone.

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Ha. You'll know it when He stops.

Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 09, 2023 01:36 PM (sL5fe)

225 Legit question as I don't fully understand these intricacies but does this mean that they felt the video affirms his guilt?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 09, 2023 01:34 PM (KbCG3)
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Yes. Essentially, he pled guilty to being there. The video shows that he was there. Thus, the video affirms his guilt rather than exonerating him.

But the real point is that the video was withheld from the defense while the defense was cooperating in railroading the client - while the the client was being tortured into a forced confession in the bowels of the American Lubyanka.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:37 PM (t0OGg)

226 Congrats to Tucker, and McCarthy

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 09, 2023 01:37 PM (fUnHJ)

227 As I commented above, this poor schmuck was fucked and railroaded from the beginning, and the odds of him ever being unfucked is very low.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 09, 2023 01:28 PM (iFTx/)
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Zero.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:31 PM (t0OGg)

G Gordon Liddy did okay after he got out but that seems unlikely in this case.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 09, 2023 01:37 PM (z/ifB)

228 Welcome to the party, Democrat Underground.

They'll do a Stephen Colbert audience flip soon as they find out how that guy works for the left to create a false narrative and intimidate anyone who might protest the stolen election.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 09, 2023 01:37 PM (0hOvj)

229 Regarding exculpatory video Andy McCarthy argues it's actually inculpatory for the crime accused, since it shows him in the capitol when Congress was supposed to be in session. I think he plead guilty to obstructing congressional function or some such. You know, like the left does with political stunts constantly.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 09, 2023 01:32 PM (trVDr)
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Uh. Yeah. Chansley obstructed it....

Because it was only him, right?

When the guard came by he didn't say, "Hey could you hurry it up, Senators are waiting to use the room."

Pukably, he said that the room was "sacred". This is what we have to deal with from blue cities now. The "sacredness" of civic power. We may have rules against the merging of Church and State (powers!!) but, nothing prevents the power of the State from becoming the ideological equivalent of a religion.

Posted by: Axeman at March 09, 2023 01:37 PM (krQz2)

230 "I heard Mitch McConnell broke his neck on a fall. Shame."

in 2019 he fell at home and broke his shoulder. This time he was hospitalized, but have not heard if he broke anything. Considering the death and destruction he supports, I would not mind if it was a hip, and his body is just giving up, the evil eating him away from within.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 09, 2023 01:38 PM (Cus5s)

231 McCarthy is full of shit as usual. Even if that were true, and it isn't, the standard is POTENTIALLY exculpatory.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 09, 2023 01:38 PM (i6M+w)

232 Nifong went to jail for doing just that.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at March 09, 2023 01:38 PM (4NcKk)

233 225 Legit question as I don't fully understand these intricacies but does this mean that they felt the video affirms his guilt?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 09, 2023 01:34 PM (KbCG3)
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Yes. Essentially, he pled guilty to being there. The video shows that he was there. Thus, the video affirms his guilt rather than exonerating him.

But the real point is that the video was withheld from the defense while the defense was cooperating in railroading the client - while the the client was being tortured into a forced confession in the bowels of the American Lubyanka.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:37 PM (t0OGg)

Is there a legal reason the prosecution would lie about a video existing that completely proves the guilt of the accused?

This is what I'm driving at. It's yet another case of, we know this thing to be 100% and have irrefutable proof but please don't ask or expect to see it because there's no way in hell we're showing you.

Or am I over simplifying?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 09, 2023 01:38 PM (KbCG3)

234 Mcarthy has really turned into a suka (ukrainian invective) his xperience is chalked up to the fact thar he let ali mohammed escape and case the embassy bombings.

Posted by: No 6 at March 09, 2023 01:39 PM (PXvVL)

235 "Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight."

Proverbs 3:5-6

Posted by: Marcus T at March 09, 2023 01:39 PM (J47y1)

236 I believe God does have a plan and he is exposing all the corruption and evilness.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 09, 2023 01:39 PM (NpAcC)

237 214- yes. I think Elric made the point much more clearly further up the thread.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 09, 2023 01:39 PM (trVDr)

238 Amen, Marcus. : )

Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 09, 2023 01:39 PM (Euy4o)

239 The irony of Mitch's note from the CP chief is that this chief wasn't even made chief until months later. But Mitch was imperative that there is no variance with his Epstein's mom's note. Even held it out for the news to see how bonafide it was. The real magilla, right here!

Posted by: micky at March 09, 2023 01:39 PM (3byMq)

240 They watched 'The Lives of Others' instead. There is no law. Only power.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:16 PM (lEVn+)

Have you seen Kleo on netflix yet? It is also about East Germany Stasi

Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2023 01:39 PM (xhaym)

241 I sure hope that McTurtle is OK. Wink, Wink.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 09, 2023 01:39 PM (17s+e)

242 The "dagger in the heart" statement is a nice troll of Schumer.

Posted by: Oglebay at March 09, 2023 01:39 PM (wscPk)

243 Amen, Marcus and spot on, SMH.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 09, 2023 01:40 PM (2YtOq)

244 Legit question as I don't fully understand these intricacies but does this mean that they felt the video affirms his guilt?
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The rule is that the prosecution has to turn over exculpatory evidence. That is evidence that shows innocence. Since the video shows he is there, the argument they will make is that it was inculpatory, it proved his guilt. As such, it was not required to be disclosed. This kind of shit goes on all the time. Look at Gen'l Flynn's pleadings relating to withdrawing guilty plea -- it details the governments systemic abusive tactics very nicely. The Feds suck and they have sucked for a Very Long Time.

Posted by: Think about it at March 09, 2023 01:40 PM (nv4Xm)

245 Based on the comments in this thread, my unofficial Black-Pilled Meter now has The Horde registering north of 50%.

Welcome to the party, pals ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 09, 2023 01:40 PM (qlyMQ)

246 @230

>>I would not mind if it was a hip, and his body is just giving up, the evil eating him away from within.

Any fall for an octogenarian is potentially fatal, he's probably lucky if he just broke his neck.

McConnell's a toe tagger, the only way he leave's the Senate is by supernatural mandate.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 09, 2023 01:40 PM (oJb1g)

247 I see now Mitch has a concussion, will stay hospitalized a few days for observation.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 09, 2023 01:40 PM (Cus5s)

248 I believe God does have a plan and he is exposing all the corruption and evilness.

I think that this is part of His unfolding rage and punishment against a wicked nation.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 09, 2023 01:40 PM (0hOvj)

249 "Doomsday"

A disgruntled man wearing a belt of dynamite threatens to detonate himself and the squad room. Wojo arrests a fraudulent priest. The squad room plumbing goes haywire.

And the bomber was character actor, William Windom:
https://www.imdb.com/name/
nm0934750/?ref_=tt_cl_t_8

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 09, 2023 01:40 PM (Vwz3I)

250 Regarding exculpatory video Andy McCarthy argues it's actually inculpatory for the crime accused, since it shows him in the capitol when Congress was supposed to be in session.
Posted by: Farmer Bob

McCarthy doesn't understand that a plea bargain involves pleading to a lesser offence? They had charged him with a worse offence, hid evidence, and pled him down to the charge.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 09, 2023 01:41 PM (lTGtQ)

251 Amen my friends. Amen.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 09, 2023 01:41 PM (J47y1)

252 Could McCarthy fire the Capitol police chief?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 09, 2023 01:41 PM (E+05M)

253 "If you were innocent, you wouldn't need exculpatory evidence."

- 81 million dumber than dogshit Joe Biden voters

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 09, 2023 01:41 PM (Y5qcH)

254 I heard Mitch McConnell broke his neck on a fall. Shame.

...

Dang dude. Take it easy.

Posted by: Eli, sitting on his chair beside the gate at March 09, 2023 01:41 PM (z/ifB)

255 And god isn't going to help anyone.
Posted by: Brace yourselves

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Well, it's a combination of bailing people out or letting people see the darkness of Man. In a proverbial sense, remember we chose Knowledge of Good--and Evil.

If you can't see the evil, because God dispelled it, then you don't get the knowledge.

The tribulation is about everybody getting the *full* portion of the knowledge of evil.

Posted by: Axeman at March 09, 2023 01:41 PM (krQz2)

256 245 Based on the comments in this thread, my unofficial Black-Pilled Meter now has The Horde registering north of 50%.

Welcome to the party, pals ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 09, 2023 01:40 PM (qlyMQ)

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It's the licorice taste that's keep most of the rest from taking the pill.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:41 PM (LvTSG)

257 Is there a legal reason the prosecution would lie about a video existing that completely proves the guilt of the accused?

This is what I'm driving at. It's yet another case of, we know this thing to be 100% and have irrefutable proof but please don't ask or expect to see it because there's no way in hell we're showing you.

Or am I over simplifying?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 09, 2023 01:38 PM (KbCG3)
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I think they feared disclosure or leaks. The narrative at the time - and still, but it was fever-pitch then - was that this guy (and the rest of them, but him especially) was a violent monster who was terrorizing the Sacred Institutions of Our Honorable Republic.

Releasing the footage would risk disclosure. If it went to trial, it would require disclosure. People following it would see it. The response of "huh? *This* is what they're so worked up about? This wet fart?" was too big a possibility.

There was a much wider narrative to be maintained.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (t0OGg)

258 247 I see now Mitch has a concussion, will stay hospitalized a few days for observation.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 09, 2023 01:40 PM (Cus5s

So I guess he will be staying in his shell a few days...Pity someone turned him over

Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (bs+z0)

259 Couldn't Trump have given these people a few bucks to have hired real attorneys instead of public defenders?

The guy is a billionaire cheapskate. Same with all sorts of candidates he endorsed. He didn't give a penny to Kari Lake either.

Posted by: Kukui at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (lTw6i)

260 “Anyone who needs to have belief in the integrity of our justice system, whether they're a left-wing New England academic or a raging right-winger, needs to say that this is really wrong and f--ing it up for everyone.”

Look how Watkins formulated that. The left wing in his argument is represented by a “New England academic”, while the right wing is “raging”. Do we think that in his heart of hearts he was zealously representing his client?

Posted by: steeldoc at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (7jujx)

261 And we know damn well the kapital kops and all the political whore class laughed at Buffalohat while they laughed. Chansley is a righteous dude imo.

Posted by: Eromero at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (1KS1Z)

262 213 TheJamesMadison,
Your donation will help elect strong Republicans...
Posted by: GOP Fundraising Flyer at March 09, 2023 01:34 PM (7EVYd)

I can't commit to a donation until how many matches I get in return.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:36 PM

The Bulwark, National Review, and The Lincoln Project all promise to match your donation, up to $150. Does that help?

Posted by: GOP Fundraising Flyer at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (7EVYd)

263 God will help save your soul, but no promises are made about your nation. All nations have risen and fallen, we are no longer special.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (lEVn+)

264 Posted by: whig at March 09, 2023 01:35

You are correct. I have also noticed that in some cases when new handles appear they sometimes have the same hash- so it's some poor soul who believes God didn't come through for them repeatedly but instead of talking about that they simply change their handles. I am sorry for the spiritual anguish. They might consider reading "Disappontment with God" or a very close title by Philip Yanchuk.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (YGliX)

265 I heard Mitch McConnell broke his neck on a fall. Shame.
.........

You'd think that fat sack of blubber hanging under his chin would have cushioned the fall

Posted by: wth at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (v0R5T)

266 Shaman also got a leftist public defender.
I have been wondering if there is any kind of legal insurance co-op for conservatives, by conservatives.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (fUnHJ)

267 Did the lie make a different in the trial outcome? Well, yeah. Prosecutor Kimberly Paschall, assistant U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia on Nov 17, 2021: "If the defendant had been peaceful on that day, your honor, we would not be here."

Posted by: Rev at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (ckHHR)

268 And then there's all the assholes saying that Chansley "confessed".

Lets not forget that at least one person held in solitary in jail and badgered about how much trouble he was in killed himself.

What did they tell Chansley and what did they tell his lawyer that they had evidence enough to convict him of if he actually had a trial?

Posted by: Synova at March 09, 2023 01:43 PM (BD/yx)

269 Yancey, not Yanchuk.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 09, 2023 01:43 PM (YGliX)

270 217- agree. There's an argument to be made. Shaman took a deal. What was originally threatened? The video may not be exculpatory to the crime in the plea deal, but it may be to what was threatened. Defense argues prosecution denied its existence. He should have at least been able to discover and then argue admissibility in a closed hearing. The prosecution seems to have taken on the role of judge here.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 09, 2023 01:43 PM (trVDr)

271 Odds are if we protest/celebrate McDonnell upcoming state funeral, the police state apparatus will fabricate evidence and use a corrupt POS federal judge to convict.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 09, 2023 01:43 PM (i6M+w)

272 Is there video of McConnell falling down? It would be good to add to the reel. Maybe add some cartoon banana-peel sound effects to it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 09, 2023 01:43 PM (t0OGg)

273 Dang dude. Take it easy.
Posted by: Eli, sitting on his chair beside the gate at March 09, 2023 01:41 PM (z/ifB)
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Yeah, well, you hade a direct pipeline to GOD, knew your sons were worthless, yet, couldn't be bothered to set things right.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 09, 2023 01:43 PM (2YtOq)

274 Look at what God has given to us through the tradition of Locke.

But Man says "I've got it now, let me handle it", and we get the Democratic party and DC. And our current mudslide into tyranny.

Posted by: Axeman at March 09, 2023 01:43 PM (krQz2)

275 I wonder if burying exculpatory evidence in cases is standard practice for the gov, or if nah bro this was just a one time thing.

Posted by: ... at March 09, 2023 01:44 PM (1aEnd)

276 I should have said: Our current mudslide into glib and gleeful tyranny.

Posted by: Axeman at March 09, 2023 01:44 PM (krQz2)

277 266 Shaman also got a leftist public defender.
I have been wondering if there is any kind of legal insurance co-op for conservatives, by conservatives.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (fUnHJ)

Which at this point makes one wonder if he is covering his own ass. Though I believe he couldn't like about making requests for any video of his client in the capitol building because that would be recorded someplace.

Posted by: Synova at March 09, 2023 01:44 PM (BD/yx)

278 I hope I don't come across as black-pilled. I'm not at all nihilistic.

I'm optimistic that after a very bloody civil war, we can set the country straight again. And I'm truly looking forward to it. The war, that is. Payback is going to feel like a great blessing. A blessing of liberty, even.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 09, 2023 01:44 PM (syJdX)

279 Regarding exculpatory video Andy McCarthy argues it's actually inculpatory for the crime accused, since it shows him in the capitol when Congress was supposed to be in session. I think he plead guilty to obstructing congressional function or some such. You know, like the left does with political stunts constantly.
Posted by: Farmer Bob

It sounds like Andy McNucky hasn't read the case if the following is true:

@charlesdhmmr 3h

It's important to note the location in the building shown in the video. John Hancock Hall can clearly be discerned. You can see 2 Capitol officers escorting Jacob down the hall and lead him into into the Senate Chamber exactly as Jacob claimed. He was not disobeying police orders

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 09, 2023 01:45 PM (jzzG8)

280 They watched 'The Lives of Others' instead. There is no law. Only power.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:16 PM (lEVn+)

Have you seen Kleo on netflix yet? It is also about East Germany Stasi
Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2023 01:39 PM (xhaym)

I dropped Netflix around the 'Cuties' timeframe.
I don't miss it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:45 PM (lEVn+)

281 280 I dropped Netflix around the 'Cuties' timeframe.
I don't miss it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:45 PM (lEVn+)

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Hardly any Ralph Bakshi on it, anyway.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:45 PM (LvTSG)

282 The Bulwark, National Review, and The Lincoln Project all promise to match your donation, up to $150. Does that help?

Posted by: GOP Fundraising Flyer at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (7EVYd)

----------------
Now we know with certainty that this is not from GOPe Fundraising HQ

There was not only no mention of Trump, but NeverTrump was actually referenced.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 09, 2023 01:46 PM (TNyrE)

283 It was told to me that they wanted a single narrative and that I obviously had a different point of view.

Posted by: fd at March 09, 2023 01:46 PM (iayUP)

284 Posted by: Kukui at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (lTw6i)

Hello new handle with the buzzwords. You sound totally legit.

Posted by: ... at March 09, 2023 01:46 PM (1aEnd)

285 I wanna see a perp walk X 1000.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 09, 2023 01:46 PM (PrrmQ)

286 If innocent, you want lawyers used to trying high profile cases in the news and that are not part of the local courtroom set but you will pay dearly for them. About 10 to 15k for a no bill at grand jury and at least 50k and up to the moon if you go to trial.
Posted by: whig at March 09, 2023 01:17 PM (g9h8E)

The quote from my favorite Ex-lawyer was: "And the corporate lawyer opposing me told me in the hallway that he got paid a huge salary to do what he did, and I told him I only got paid if I win and I was going to be on his ass like a bulldog and I was going to take a huge chunk of it to get that win. He eventually settled on the case"

Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2023 01:46 PM (xhaym)

287 {{{{troyriser}}}}

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 09, 2023 01:46 PM (fUnHJ)

288 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:12 PM (LvTSG)

///

What did you think of "Tar"?

Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at March 09, 2023 01:46 PM (5LiAp)

289 Oscar-winning actor Sir Michael Caine has panned an effort by a UK government program to label the 1964 film Zulu as “extremist” because it shows the victory of British soldiers against an African army in South Africa.

The film depicts the Battle of Rorke’s Drift in 1879, an important British victory in a campaign against Zulu warriors in South Africa. The Zulus had just defeated the British at the Battle of Isandlwana — one of the first victories of an indigenous army against a European force.

A widely-criticized British government project called Prevent, which aims to stop extremism, included the film Zulu on a list “as a ‘key text’ for ‘white nationalists’ and ‘supremacists’,” the UK Daily Mail noted.

Caine, 90, responded via the UK Spectator: “‘That is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever heard.”

Posted by: SMOD at March 09, 2023 01:46 PM (RHGPo)

290 I almost laughed out loud when Carlson mentioned that the Hollywood producer, hired by ? (the J6 committee?) added a soundtrack to the security camera footage. Man, that's something.

Posted by: mrp at March 09, 2023 01:46 PM (rj6Yv)

291 I dropped Netflix around the 'Cuties' timeframe.
I don't miss it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:45 PM (lEVn+)

You're going to miss Cuties 2, jack. Yours truly makes a cameo appearance.

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 09, 2023 01:46 PM (Y5qcH)

292 And then there's all the assholes saying that Chansley "confessed".
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Well, "assholes" aside, it is a fact when you make a plea they ask you to admit your guilt. Which you do, to avoid trial. You can argue coercion and probably the supreme court would agree -- if the case gets to them. It might not because it is hard to attack a guilty plea because they put your through a process when you say under oath that you aren't being coerced among other things, and that you are freely and volutarily chosing to plea rather than asserting your right to trial.

Posted by: Think about it at March 09, 2023 01:46 PM (+hw0D)

293 It's being reported that Mitch suffered a concussion and is being treated for that in the hospital.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 09, 2023 01:47 PM (NpAcC)

294 We just recently had a series on what the Bible teaches about grief, depression, anxiety, stress, and anger which was very, very, helpful. Just last night we had a guest speaker who teaches us the 12 step prayer circle and how to pray.

The 12 steps are in 5 minute increments:

Praise: Start by praising God's goodness
Wait: Be quiet in God's presence
Confess: Confess where you've fallen short.
Read the Word: Spend Time Reading God's Word.
Ask: Make requests on behalf of yourself
Intercession: Make requests on behalf of others
Pray the Word: Pray through specific passages
Give Thanks: Give thanks to God for the things in your life.
Sing: Sing songs of praise, worship, or hymns
Meditate: Meditate & reflect on scripture/attributes of God.
Listen: Ask the Lord to speak to you & be willing to listen.
Praise: Praise God for how he has worked in this time spent together.

Great uplifting experience.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at March 09, 2023 01:47 PM (QLMF6)

295 288 What did you think of "Tar"?
Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at March 09, 2023 01:46 PM (5LiAp)

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Haven't seen it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:47 PM (LvTSG)

296 God will help save your soul, but no promises are made about your nation. All nations have risen and fallen, we are no longer special.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (lEVn+)

...

There is however pretty good precedent for nations that have repented en masse.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 09, 2023 01:47 PM (z/ifB)

297 Julie Kelly @julie_kelly2
BREAKING: Drama in the Proud Boys trial yesterday after FBI agent caught lying on the stand and concealing evidence from defense attorneys.

Motion filed this morning from Nick Smith, attorney representing Ethan Nordean.

This is what happens when a rogue, corrupt FBI...

is allowed to lie to the public, withhold information, and operate without oversight by Congress.

This agent (or someone) deleted thousands of messages in FBIs "Lync" messaging system--messages relevant to investigation and required to be produced to defense counsel:

https://tinyurl.com/yz5rrhyv

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 09, 2023 01:47 PM (Vwz3I)

298 289 Caine, 90, responded via the UK Spectator: “‘That is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever heard.”
Posted by: SMOD at March 09, 2023 01:46 PM (RHGPo)

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He has an introductory video on the new 4K of Get Carter. Dude looks and sounds his age.

He old.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:48 PM (LvTSG)

299 293 It's being reported that Mitch suffered a concussion and is being treated for that in the hospital.
Posted by: redridinghood at March 09, 2023 01:47 PM (NpAcC)

Only way to cure a concussion is with another concussion.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 09, 2023 01:48 PM (Y5qcH)

300 @292: Fraud is a basis to vacate a plea.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 09, 2023 01:48 PM (i6M+w)

301 297 dumbass FBI agent hid the rows in the excel.spreadsheet instead of deleting them

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 09, 2023 01:49 PM (fUnHJ)

302 277 266 Shaman also got a leftist public defender.
I have been wondering if there is any kind of legal insurance co-op for conservatives, by conservatives.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (fUnHJ)

///

There is insurance if you carry a gun and think you might need to use it. USCCA and others.

Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at March 09, 2023 01:49 PM (5LiAp)

303 267 Prosecutor Kimberly Paschall, assistant U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia on Nov 17, 2021: "If the defendant had been peaceful on that day, your honor, we would not be here."
Posted by: Rev at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM

He was thinking about raping me, and I was terrified and violated!

Posted by: AOC at March 09, 2023 01:49 PM (7EVYd)

304

Great uplifting experience.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM

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Thank you for this. I just spoke to someone last night who needs to see it.

Funny how that God who doesn't help anyone keeps helping everyone, isn't it?

Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 09, 2023 01:49 PM (sL5fe)

305 God will help save your soul, but no promises are made about your nation. All nations have risen and fallen, we are no longer special.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (lEVn+)
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The best parts of this nation are the best parts of any nation ever. And they were all built by the Lord and His Spirit.

As Biden said in a not-so-bad segment that he probably did not write. American is an idea we've tried to live up to, but we never have.

That's Man's contribution, the struggling and the failing. And betrayal.

Posted by: Axeman at March 09, 2023 01:49 PM (krQz2)

306 I dropped Netflix around the 'Cuties' timeframe. I don't miss it.

Posted Mark Andrew Edwards

Same.

Posted by: mrp at March 09, 2023 01:50 PM (rj6Yv)

307 I have to say that with all this footage and reliving that horrible day is unimaginable. Are used to think that PTSD was just bullshit but it’s not.

Posted by: Linda Sina at March 09, 2023 01:50 PM (Grew6)

308 281 280 I dropped Netflix around the 'Cuties' timeframe.
I don't miss it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:45 PM (lEVn+)

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Hardly any Ralph Bakshi on it, anyway.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:45 PM (LvTSG)

*eye twitch*
At least the Best Picture films of the 40's are worth watching.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:50 PM (lEVn+)

309 "And god isn't going to help anyone."

He already did numerous times. Do I expect God to save the U.S?. That's up to him, but God is not a citizen of the US and His plans are his plans. I do keep on praying though.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 09, 2023 01:50 PM (FUVRY)

310 A widely-criticized British government project called Prevent, which aims to stop extremism, included the film Zulu on a list “as a ‘key text’ for ‘white nationalists’ and ‘supremacists’,” the UK Daily Mail noted.

Caine, 90, responded via the UK Spectator: “‘That is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever heard.”

Posted by: SMOD

I've always liked Caine.

Also, anyone who thinks that move has anything remotely racist in it has never seen the movie, or is lying. The Zulus love that movie to this day.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 09, 2023 01:50 PM (lTGtQ)

311 308 *eye twitch*
At least the Best Picture films of the 40's are worth watching.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:50 PM (lEVn+)

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Gentlemen's Agreement...

*spits*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:50 PM (LvTSG)

312 I wonder if burying exculpatory evidence in cases is standard practice for the gov, or if nah bro this was just a one time thing.
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So standard that the go-to excuse once caught is "hey bro that evidence is inculpatory, not exculpatory so the brady rule doesn't apply". At the end of the day, it will come down to whether or not the Judge thinks he was bamboozled -- because he didn't see it either.

Posted by: Judge's matter, a lot at March 09, 2023 01:50 PM (27LRa)

313 I'm curious to know how many of the horde have seen Jesus Revolution and their impression of it.

I'm going this weekend and I'm biased--I spent a year at Jesus People USA in Chicago in the early 90's, so I have an at least slightly favorable impression overall of the jesus movement.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 09, 2023 01:50 PM (z/ifB)

314 Only way to cure a concussion is with another concussion.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 09, 2023 01:48 PM (Y5qcH)

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This would be an excellent time for him to receive another booster jab.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 09, 2023 01:51 PM (TNyrE)

315 Spot on Marcus and Amen, Amen & Amen.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at March 09, 2023 01:51 PM (QLMF6)

316 The best hope Shaman or the peaceful protesters have is that judges don't like to be made to look stupid. One of these meat sacks in black robes will take the step to order a retrial because the prosecution made them look stupid and the rest will follow

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 09, 2023 01:51 PM (INqbP)

317 Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at March 09, 2023 01:47 PM (QLMF6)

Very good suggestions. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 09, 2023 01:51 PM (FUVRY)

318
It's definitely tar, feathers, and rail time in this country.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 09, 2023 01:51 PM (enJYY)

319 302 There is insurance if you carry a gun and think you might need to use it. USCCA and others.
Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at March 09, 2023 01:49 PM

USCCA and others, which many incorrectly refer to as gun-owners insurance, but is really...

Posted by: Not Andrew Branca at March 09, 2023 01:52 PM (7EVYd)

320 I wish someone would start a Revenge Party.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 09, 2023 01:52 PM (fUnHJ)

321 It never occurred to me that Tucker would go after Mitch like this. There has to be something satisfying about tripping up the 80 year old fat kid.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 09, 2023 01:52 PM (Jg7EG)

322 I can't commit to a donation until how many matches I get in return.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:36 PM

Don't you decide on that by flicking left or right?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 09, 2023 01:52 PM (a3Q+t)

323 316 The best hope Shaman or the peaceful protesters have is that judges don't like to be made to look stupid. One of these meat sacks in black robes will take the step to order a retrial because the prosecution made them look stupid and the rest will follow
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 09, 2023 01:51 PM (INqbP)

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Judge Emmet G. Sullivan had no problem looking like an idiot.

Federal judges seem to be pretty okay with looking like morons as long as they get their authority respected.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:52 PM (LvTSG)

324 Just how stupid and arrogant does one have to be to delete thousands of messages? Deletion is going to create enormous gaps in timelines and you don't dare call into question the integrity of the system if it's been used in an evidentiary fashion.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 09, 2023 01:52 PM (2YtOq)

325 God will help save your soul, but no promises are made about your nation. All nations have risen and fallen, we are no longer special.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (lEVn+)
...
There is however pretty good precedent for nations that have repented en masse.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 09, 2023 01:47 PM (z/ifB)

I'd love a list of nations that repented and were renewed.
That aside, do you see any repentance?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:53 PM (lEVn+)

326 I almost laughed out loud when Carlson mentioned that the Hollywood producer, hired by ? (the J6 committee?) added a soundtrack to the security camera footage. Man, that's something.

Posted by: mrp at March 09, 2023 01:46 PM (rj6Yv)
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Wehw. We did the nowse!

And the hat...

Posted by: J6 Committee at March 09, 2023 01:53 PM (krQz2)

327 SMOD @ 289-
The left can't change what has happened (history), but I suppose they mean to re-write tha battle result. The British ADMIRED the Zulus, but I doubt the left nevere watched the wole film. Now let's all sing Men Of Harlech'!

Posted by: Eromero at March 09, 2023 01:53 PM (1KS1Z)

328 Posted by: troyriser at March 09, 2023 01:36 PM (7Cx1V)

And I will pray for you too, Troy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 09, 2023 01:53 PM (FUVRY)

329 >I wonder if burying exculpatory evidence in cases is standard practice for the gov, or if nah bro this was just a one time thing.

Sometimes the FBI just 'loses' evidence.

Posted by: DB - eschewing the thing at March 09, 2023 01:54 PM (geLO8)

330 ""We did not receive that video footage," Watkins said. "We asked for it, and not just once or twice.""

Tell us the names of the bastards who deceived you. Tell us the dates and venues the lies occurred in.

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at March 09, 2023 01:54 PM (MvF+J)

331 I almost laughed out loud when Carlson mentioned that the Hollywood producer, hired by ? (the J6 committee?) added a soundtrack to the security camera footage. Man, that's something.
Posted by: mrp at March 09, 2023 01:46 PM (rj6Yv)
........

Shoulda sped it up and added Yakety Sax.

Posted by: wth at March 09, 2023 01:54 PM (v0R5T)

332 Praying to Crom has only one step.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 09, 2023 01:54 PM (44ww/)

333 332 Praying to Crom has only one step.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 09, 2023 01:54 PM (44ww/)

========

And if he doesn't come through, then to hell with him!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

334 I've been out of the loop for a while, but I thought Tucker was going to releasing more video? Are the Murdoch boys muzzling him?

Posted by: lowandslow at March 09, 2023 01:54 PM (76Foq)

335 I dropped Netflix around the 'Cuties' timeframe.
I don't miss it.

Same. There are shows I miss, but I don't miss Netflix. It had less and less I cared about.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 09, 2023 01:55 PM (0hOvj)

336 The Dems can no longer hide what they are doing. After they reclaim the house and hold the Senate and White House in 24, they're going to start building the camps.

What you're witnessing now is going to be put on steroids. They are going to go for it.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at March 09, 2023 01:55 PM (MFAG4)

337 Jonathan Turley
@JonathanTurley

Matt Taibbi and Michael Shellenberger have done an incredible job today despite the personal attacks from Democratic members. We all owe them a debt of gratitude from putting themselves in harm's way in this age of rage.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 09, 2023 01:55 PM (NpAcC)

338 I don't know the actual standards and basis for charges, but being in the Capitol when Congress is in session is the normal situation about 99% of the time. In fact I'm not sure when I've ever heard of the building being closed to the public during session (you can see, at least at night, whether they're in session by a little light being on waay up at the top of the dome, visible from the Mall and all around).

I thought the charge was disrupting a government function. This could take many forms. The small numbers of idiots who bum-rushed onto the Senate floor clearly could be charged with disruption, but buffalo-horn guy was not among them, I don't think (not just the newly released video, but lots of prior private video and still imagery showed him talking with Cap Police, calmly, in the hallways).

As I've said from the outset, all kinds of very different things happened that day. Which we know from abundant private imagery and first-hand accounts. What has still AFAIK never been addressed concretely is the colossal incompetence of the Cap Police. The building is easy to secure and I've seen no instance where the breach couldn't have easily been stopped.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 09, 2023 01:55 PM (OTzUX)

339 He was thinking about raping me, and I was terrified and violated!
Posted by: AOC at March 09, 2023 01:49 PM

He just wanted to date you.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 09, 2023 01:55 PM (a3Q+t)

340 I like the way revenge projects.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 09, 2023 01:56 PM (PrrmQ)

341 WWE Lobbying For Sports Betting On Its Pre-Scripted Matches

"The WWE is now reportedly talking to state gambling regulators in Colorado and Michigan to lobby for legalized gambling on their matches."

Just when you think things can get any dumber, they go and pull something like this and totally redeem themselves.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 09, 2023 01:56 PM (Y5qcH)

342 310 Also, anyone who thinks that move has anything remotely racist in it has never seen the movie, or is lying. The Zulus love that movie to this day.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 09, 2023 01:50 PM

As I understand, the makers of the film wanted to pay the Zulu actors a lot, but South African law (where it was filmed) greatly restricted pay, so they got creative, and did things like give actors props (the cattle), which were very valuable and appreciated, but skirted the law.

Posted by: Movie Moron at March 09, 2023 01:56 PM (7EVYd)

343 That aside, do you see any repentance?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:53 PM (lEVn+)
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There's too much godless pride.

We're even boasting about it what it is.

I was saying to my son last night, the people at the wheel right now, will have to crash this country into a brick wall. They'll still stagger away, if they can, and make speeches about what really went wrong (it wasn't them) and it will be up to other people to step up and say "They can *never* drive again".

Posted by: Axeman at March 09, 2023 01:56 PM (krQz2)

344 Other people need their hands on this as I fear for Tucker's life.
Posted by: artisanal ette at March 09, 2023 01:27 PM (9qHsE)

////

I fear for his career. In Britain, they have a Government TV Censor, "OffCom", that got Steyn tossed off the air. Like Tucker, he faced a "him against 99% of the media". Tucker has Ds and Rs and Fox, I suppose, mad at him.

Posted by: JM in Fla/Ill - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at March 09, 2023 01:56 PM (casCC)

345 The Dems are turning at least 1000+ members of the public that opposed them, probably even hated them but peacefully into bitter enemies that will be looking for revenge.

Posted by: Ripley at March 09, 2023 01:57 PM (cUYo/)

346 Great uplifting experience.
Posted by: NALNAMSAM

Thank you for sharing.

Sometimes when there is no one else to blame HE ends up being the ONE.
Seldom are people grateful for unanswered prayers.

Posted by: old chick at March 09, 2023 01:57 PM (sOete)

347 335 I dropped Netflix around the 'Cuties' timeframe.
I don't miss it.

Same. There are shows I miss, but I don't miss Netflix. It had less and less I cared about.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 09, 2023 01:55 PM (0hOvj)

I can barely keep up with TJM's movie discussions as it is, I have no time for Netflix anyway. (And I'm several days behind as it is)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:57 PM (lEVn+)

348 There's too much godless pride.

-

Pride.

Weird how the gays chose that word, isn't it?

Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 09, 2023 01:57 PM (sL5fe)

349 325 God will help save your soul, but no promises are made about your nation. All nations have risen and fallen, we are no longer special.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:42 PM (lEVn+)
...
There is however pretty good precedent for nations that have repented en masse.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 09, 2023 01:47 PM (z/ifB)

I'd love a list of nations that repented and were renewed.
That aside, do you see any repentance?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:53 PM (lEVn+)

Nineveh from the Book of Jonah is the only incident I recall. Otherwise it's always a remnant.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 09, 2023 01:57 PM (eYoxG)

350 "I've been out of the loop for a while, but I thought Tucker was going to releasing more video? Are the Murdoch boys muzzling him?"

The biggest muzzle is granting only one journalist access to the whole damn cache. Put all the videos on the torrents ASAP. There's hundreds of Chansleys right now whose defenses need those videos! Tucker himself should raise hell to get all this stuff out at once, if he has integrity.

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at March 09, 2023 01:57 PM (MvF+J)

351 Carlson and Fox are getting astronomical ratings.

Posted by: mrp at March 09, 2023 01:57 PM (rj6Yv)

352 love a list of nations that repented and were renewed.
That aside, do you see any repentance?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:53 PM (lEVn+)
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Nineveh.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 09, 2023 01:58 PM (2YtOq)

353 347 I can barely keep up with TJM's movie discussions as it is, I have no time for Netflix anyway. (And I'm several days behind as it is)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:57 PM (lEVn+)

==========

*starts plans for extended Jean-Luc Godard series*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 09, 2023 01:58 PM (LvTSG)

354 God will help save your soul, but no promises are made about your nation. All nations have risen and fallen, we are no longer special.

From God's perspective, we never were as a nation. Only one nation was ever described as special, and they were special not due to any personal merit or significance, but because God chose them to be.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 09, 2023 01:58 PM (0hOvj)

355 Only way to cure a concussion is with another concussion.

*******

My grandma used to say, "Starve a cold, feed a fever, wallop a concussion."

Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2023 01:58 PM (ykeLU)

356 jake had the world’s worst attorney but the reason this cheap suit is coming out of the woodwork now is to cry wolf to gin up some $.

Posted by: red flag at March 09, 2023 01:58 PM (3Qaj5)

357 Look at that plump ass! Look at that plump, juicy thumper!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 09, 2023 01:58 PM (Jg7EG)

358 There is however pretty good precedent for nations that have repented en masse.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 09, 2023 01:47 PM (z/ifB)

I'd love a list of nations that repented and were renewed.
That aside, do you see any repentance?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 09, 2023 01:53 PM (lEVn+)

Well, Israel, over and over.
Ninevah, when Jonah finally showed up.
In our own history the Great Awakenings check the box in my view, the first of which led to our revolution and founding.

There are actually some interesting things happening right now on some college campuses. Whether Asbury is actually the start of something and whether the response at many other campuses is real or all just evidence of hunger for revival, I'd say the hunger is absolutely there.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 09, 2023 01:59 PM (z/ifB)

359 Now this is how to throw people under the bus with (delayed) extreme prejudice.

(DailyMail link)

https://tinyurl.com/y9evdc4m

Five Gulf Cartel assassins who kidnapped four Americans and killed two were tied up and dumped in the street by narco bosses. Along with an apology note.

Posted by: Gref at March 09, 2023 01:59 PM (AMIL/)

360 Just how stupid and arrogant does one have to be to delete thousands of messages? [ . . . ]
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 09, 2023 01:52 PM (2YtOq)

It might be that the penalties of deleting evidence are less than the penalties of falsifying evidence, especially on a personal level.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2023 01:59 PM (xhaym)

361 I've been out of the loop for a while, but I thought Tucker was going to releasing more video? Are the Murdoch boys muzzling him?
Posted by: lowandslow at March 09, 2023 01:54 PM (76Foq)
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I heard a counter-story last night. Tucker was picking up some flack inside of Fox, so he decided to hold back a bit and wait until the numbers came in to show Fox executives.

Don't know if this is true. Hope it is.

Posted by: Axeman at March 09, 2023 01:59 PM (krQz2)

362 >I wonder if burying exculpatory evidence in cases is standard practice for the gov, or if nah bro this was just a one time thing.

Sometimes the FBI just 'loses' evidence.
Posted by: DB - eschewing the thing at March 09, 2023 01:54 PM

Standard? Preferred.

- The Boston office of the FIB

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 09, 2023 01:59 PM (Wnv9h)

363 Look at that plump ass! Look at that plump, juicy thumper!
Posted by: Dr. Bone
==
You might need to get some help.

Posted by: That's not exactly normal at March 09, 2023 02:00 PM (43LUh)

364 "Carlson and Fox are getting astronomical ratings."

Since they apparently have a monopoly on controlling the eyedropper video-dispenser, not a big surprise. Release all the videos now!

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at March 09, 2023 02:00 PM (MvF+J)

365 I always liked Steve Landesburg''s humor.

Posted by: JT at March 09, 2023 02:00 PM (T4tVD)

366 Only 13 days until International Talk Like William Shatner Day.

Best. Start practicing. Now.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 09, 2023 02:00 PM (a3Q+t)

367 Five Gulf Cartel assassins who kidnapped four Americans and killed two were tied up and dumped in the street by narco bosses. Along with an apology note.
Posted by: Gref

Cartel bosses are more effective leaders than the GOPe

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 09, 2023 02:00 PM (fUnHJ)

368 Nineveh from the Book of Jonah is the only incident I recall. Otherwise it's always a remnant.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 09, 2023 01:57 PM (eYoxG)
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Was it Josiah who lead Judah back to the LORD?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 09, 2023 02:00 PM (2YtOq)

369 304

Great uplifting experience.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM

--

Thank you for this. I just spoke to someone last night who needs to see it.

Funny how that God who doesn't help anyone keeps helping everyone, isn't it?
Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales
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You're very welcome. The guest speaker actually led a group of about 60 of us through the exercise. It's not as easy/hard as one would think depending on the step. I found the most difficult phases for me were (1) Wait: Be quiet in God's presence and (2) Listen: Ask the Lord to speak to you & be willing to listen.

My mind continues to wander here and there during quiet times... practice, practice, practice as our guest speaker said. He said he has been doing this for over ten years and still has difficulty maintaining focus from time to time.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at March 09, 2023 02:01 PM (QLMF6)

370 Yet Another Norfolk Southern Train Derails As CEO Testifies Before Congress On East Palestine

Another Norfolk Southern train derailed Thursday in Calhoun County, Alabama, as the company's chief executive officer (CEO) is expected to testify before Congress.

The Calhoun County EMA reported that nearly 30 cars derailed at 6:45 a.m. in the White Plains area, according to the agency's Facebook post. The incident reportedly caused no injuries, hazardous spills, or dangers to the public.

happens all the time is what I heard

Posted by: artisanal ette at March 09, 2023 02:01 PM (9qHsE)

371 Cartel bosses are more effective leaders than the GOPe
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 09, 2023 02:00 PM (fUnHJ)

That's a low bar

Posted by: It's me donna at March 09, 2023 02:01 PM (bs+z0)

372 The America we knew and loved is gone. The best thing that can happen is to burn what's left to the ground.

Posted by: TC in NC at March 09, 2023 02:01 PM (FjlUt)

373 Look at that plump ass! Look at that plump, juicy thumper!
Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 09, 2023 01:58 PM

Where have I heard that before?

Posted by: Brie Larson at March 09, 2023 02:01 PM (a3Q+t)

374 Just how stupid and arrogant does one have to be to delete thousands of messages? [ . . . ]
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at March 09, 2023 01:52 PM (2YtOq)
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From what I read *six weeks* were gone of Hillary's emails when she deleted "yoga and wedding" emails.

I've confronted Hillary fans with that time and time again. Did *you* want a Secretary of State who for 6 weeks did *no work* except email about yoga and her daughter's wedding? Does that make her the "most qualified candidate EVER!"?

Posted by: Axeman at March 09, 2023 02:02 PM (krQz2)

375 My grandma used to say, "Starve a cold, feed a fever, wallop a concussion."
Posted by: Muldoon at March 09, 2023 01:58 PM (ykeLU)

*meditatively hefts the Bible while looking at a ganglion cyst*

Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2023 02:02 PM (xhaym)

376 359 Bodies could have been any five randos they killed to make it look like justice. They don't have a shortage of bodies to choose from there.

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at March 09, 2023 02:02 PM (MvF+J)

377 I'd like to live in the US where any federal judges even understand, much less care about, being seen as fools (or corrupt and pernicious) by any intelligent citizen. I believe that US existed, once.

Zombie O'Connor and still breathing Kennedy and Roberts look puzzled, along with many of their colleagues.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 09, 2023 02:02 PM (OTzUX)

378 The best thing that can happen is to burn what's left to the ground.

Think of it as the world's worst BBQ, where all you get to grill and eat is your neighbors.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at March 09, 2023 02:02 PM (ppBhU)

379 Nood

Posted by: NCKate at March 09, 2023 02:02 PM (d5Qya)

380 I've confronted Hillary fans with that time and time again. Did *you* want a Secretary of State who for 6 weeks did *no work* except email about yoga and her daughter's wedding? Does that make her the "most qualified candidate EVER!"?
Posted by: Axeman at March 09, 2023 02:02 PM (krQz2)

Hey, Jack, Bug off. What I do is HARD!

Posted by: Sect'y of Transportation Butty-gig at March 09, 2023 02:03 PM (xhaym)

381 I would say also that the other very interesting thing I've heard about recently is the argument for an a-millienial view of Revelation.

Eschatologically they hold that there is no 1000-year reign, and essentially that all that is described in Revelation is happening concurrently.

If they are right we have been in the events of Revelation for the last almost 2000 years. In fact about 6 years short of the end of that 2000 years. I get that no one will know the day or the hour but I think there are compelling points to this view.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 09, 2023 02:03 PM (z/ifB)

382 Donald Trump releasing new book with private letters from Oprah, other celebs-
"Letters to Trump"

https://tinyurl.com/mztby395

Posted by: redridinghood at March 09, 2023 02:03 PM (NpAcC)

383 Why is everyone bent about this.
Prosecutor will just claim that there was too much video and they had not seen those particular bits. This all proves nothing.

It would only be important if they could prove the prosecutor or investigators had the video, *knew about the video*, and did not show it to the defense.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 09, 2023 02:05 PM (BhQrp)

384 If they are right we have been in the events of Revelation for the last almost 2000 years. In fact about 6 years short of the end of that 2000 years. I get that no one will know the day or the hour but I think there are compelling points to this view.

There's pretty strong scriptural support for this position, and it does not require a huge system of scriptural interpretation to support it.

But then, that's true about postmillenialism as well. And preterism. The final truth I think is none of the above, but some of each has truth. I think its like trying to predict what the Messiah was going to be like using only the Old Testament: the info is there, but it is only clear in retrospect.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 09, 2023 02:06 PM (0hOvj)

385 And also a state case. A red state at that. The federal legal system is a whole different animal, especially when we're talking about the wretched hive of scum and villainy that is DC. And the railroaded Duke kids (or rather their parents) had the money and resources to pursue justice.
Posted by: Elric Blade

And the scum Geraldo on TV saying in effect - Of course, they are guilty, they are just a bunch of rich, white boys. Why that man has any type of career other than blowing hobos under a bridge for 25 cents a pop is beyond me.

Posted by: Cheri at March 09, 2023 02:07 PM (oiNtH)

386 The descendant of the actual ruler and contemporary period political leader of the Zulu, Buthelezi, played his ancestor in the film, I believe.

It's nearly non-stop so this statement loses much of its punch, but the Khmer Rouge/Nazi/Bolshevik-like rewriting of history and purging of culture and society going on in the UK and the US and elsewhere has no better example than this jihad against "Zulu". Pristine ignorance of relevant facts, substitution of present day (ignorant, racist) suppositions for history, and of course the standard imbecilic and righteous moral narcissism.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 09, 2023 02:08 PM (OTzUX)

387 Why is everyone bent about this.

For reasons that are obvious to most of us.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 09, 2023 02:13 PM (Xrfse)

388 Why is everyone bent about this.
Prosecutor will just claim that there was too much video and they had not seen those particular bits. This all proves nothing.

It would only be important if they could prove the prosecutor or investigators had the video, *knew about the video*, and did not show it to the defense.

There was a report that the way Tucker's crew found the video that they showed was by searching for "digital bookmarks" in the files. Which would indicate that someone had not only watched that video previously, but had marked it for rewatching or showing to others. Doesn't necessarily mean it was DoJ, but they certainly had reason to have viewed that footage.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 09, 2023 02:14 PM (Bd6X8)

389 I'd don't know I think I'm seeing a pattern here. Hmm

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at March 09, 2023 02:15 PM (ytSiK)

390 If they are right we have been in the events of Revelation for the last almost 2000 years. In fact about 6 years short of the end of that 2000 years. I get that no one will know the day or the hour but I think there are compelling points to this view.

Posted by: TexasDan

--

The one that gets me is Revelations 18:23

“And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.”

The Greek word for “sorcery” is “pharmakia”

Look familiar? It's where we get our word for something that was in the news in 2020 up until now.

Posted by: Corporate and government are probably 90 percent of EV sales at March 09, 2023 02:17 PM (sL5fe)

391 278
'The war, that is. Payback is going to feel like a great blessing. A blessing of liberty, even.'

This is the most uplifted I have felt in this whole thread.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 09, 2023 02:21 PM (a1ycR)

392 Schumer says Carlson lied. Hear now the pof blackguarding

Posted by: creeper at March 09, 2023 02:46 PM (cTCuP)

393 pot blackguarding the kettle

Posted by: creeper at March 09, 2023 02:47 PM (cTCuP)

394 So why did Qanon Shaman plread guilty?

Posted by: Paul at March 09, 2023 03:01 PM (qv0O1)

395 Just us is served.

Posted by: Eric at March 09, 2023 03:14 PM (Nu6ur)

396 Petition to have the prosecutor disbarred. It's not as much as he/she deserves (hanged by the neck until dead would be fitting), but it could be pursued without the cooperation of the same corrupt DoJ and judiciary.

Posted by: craig at March 09, 2023 03:46 PM (iblX1)

397 More fake news more lies

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at March 09, 2023 04:47 PM (wGqjj)

398 @375 used to do workers comp law and was taking a orthopedic Dr testimony. He was asked how to treat a ganglion cyst on the wrist and he said 1) do nothing 2) injection 3) surgery 4) hit it with a big hardcover book. The administrative law judge was a lefty who said "that's primitive" and Dr responded "that's a tried and true treatment." ALJ was perplexed.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 09, 2023 05:29 PM (3f7vf)

399 Brady violations. The DOJ attorney should be disbarred for deceiving the court. The J6 defendant should walk.

Posted by: ruralcounsel at March 09, 2023 09:09 PM (96wFa)

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