Surprise! For the First Time in 100 Years, American IQ Scores Are Dropping

"I can't believe it, Americans are smarter than ever!" said only the idiots and cretins, because they're too stupid to know any better.

A recent study suggests that, for the first time in nearly 100 years, Americans' average intelligence quotient (IQ) is declining.
The professors who authored the study theorize that the quality of education could play a role in reversing the IQ gains enjoyed by previous generations.
The study, published in a spring 2023 edition of Intelligence, measures IQ test results among 18- to 60-year-olds to examine the phenomenon first observed by philosopher James Flynn.
Professors from Northwestern University in Evanston, Ill., and the University of Oregon in Eugene explain the Flynn effect: starting in 1932, average IQ scores increased roughly three to five points per decade. In other words, "younger generations are expected to have higher IQ scores than the previous cohort."
Data from the sample of U.S. adults, however, imply that there is a reverse Flynn effect. From 2006 to 2018, the age groups measured generally saw declines in the IQ test used by the study, the International Cognitive Ability Resource (ICAR).
Overall declines held true across age groups after controlling for educational attainment and gender, but the study shows that the loss in cognitive abilities is steeper for younger participants. "[T]he greatest differences in annual scores were observed for 18- to 22-year-olds," the authors write.

Exposure to education, including through obtaining a four-year degree, generally lessened the blow to IQ points. The study suggests, however, that this is less so for younger participants.

In other words, education failed to blunt the fall in IQ among the youngest. Because, of course, they are getting the full "benefits" of CRT participation-trophy Only Your Feelings Are Really Math education.

The Associated Press
@AP
What first looked like a pandemic blip has turned into a crisis as hundreds of thousands of young people opt to forgo college.
In dozens of interviews with @AP, educators, researchers and students described a generation jaded by education institutions

As more students opt-out of the massive expense to pay for nothing but a piece of paper inscribed with a credential of rapidly-declining value, and as colleges begin losing money and face the horrors of having to trim staff, you know what the next step will be, right?

Certainly not that colleges reform to bring actual value to students. Certainly not that they reduce their prices. Certainly not reducing their payrolls by shedding the huge number of worthless paper-shuffling administrators -- administrators now outnumber actual teachers on almost all college staffs -- especially their value-destroying DEI staffs?

No, good heavens, none of that! How dare I even suggest it!

No, it will be demanded that the US taxpayers give colleges even more money to make up for their shortfall, and pay for almost all of the extraordinarily high tuition they charge, to make wasting time and getting laid in five or six years of "college" so cheap that only the truly disciplined would skip out on it.

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1 yeah, but maffs!

Posted by: micky at March 10, 2023 01:01 PM (3byMq)

2 We can't have an IQ gap!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 10, 2023 01:01 PM (63Dwl)

3 "See?! You need us! You really need us!"
-Teachers

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:01 PM (LvTSG)

4 oh no, anyway.

Posted by: micky at March 10, 2023 01:01 PM (3byMq)

5 Yeah, total surprise...not.

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2023 01:01 PM (EeVCB)

6 top ten

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at March 10, 2023 01:02 PM (OgrpQ)

7 He is wicked smaht.

Posted by: Czech Chick at March 10, 2023 01:02 PM (6Tc2R)

8 Buy shares in Brawndo now and get in on the ground floor, baby. It's the Microsoft of the 2020's.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at March 10, 2023 01:03 PM (CwhoI)

9 watt r u talk'n bout?

I are shmart! I has all the trofies.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 10, 2023 01:03 PM (qoGsy)

10 It's the lockdown booze...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at March 10, 2023 01:03 PM (yv5U0)

11 IQ tests are discredited race-science. They are not to be spoken of.

Posted by: Receive gp's Free No-Obligation Information Packet at March 10, 2023 01:03 PM (MvF+J)

12 Great news for the Democrat Party.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at March 10, 2023 01:03 PM (OZjDX)

13 I said this yesterday: people are not being taught to reason. IQ measurements to me have always been pointless.

Ability to apply what you know and reason things out is a hard thing to quantify.

My guess would be, people are not inherently stupid, they have just been trained to be stupid.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:03 PM (zZu0s)

14 Isn't IQ some kind of measurement of white supremacy?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 10, 2023 01:04 PM (63Dwl)

15 The professors who authored the study theorize that the quality of education could play a role in reversing the IQ gains enjoyed by previous generations.

It took a professor to figure that one out?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2023 01:04 PM (lTGtQ)

16 No, it will be demanded that the US taxpayers give colleges even more money to make up for their shortfall, and pay for almost all of the extraordinarily high tuition they charge, to make wasting time and getting laid in five or six years of "college" so cheap that only the truly disciplined would skip out on it.

Ace is way too un-cynical. They'll make college mandatory.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 10, 2023 01:04 PM (ZGrMX)

17 It's, like, totally, like, what's the word, like , everywhere.

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2023 01:04 PM (EeVCB)

18 IQ is 80% genetic. The drop is immigration from low IQ regions and dysgenic welfare programs.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at March 10, 2023 01:04 PM (qmOv7)

19 Sending a child into the public school system should be considered abuse.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 10, 2023 01:04 PM (E+05M)

20 When did "common core" start in the schools? Bet that had something to do with the drop in IQ.

Posted by: Toni at March 10, 2023 01:04 PM (PgM6e)

21 I has Q score

Posted by: Fetterman at March 10, 2023 01:04 PM (786Ro)

22 I’m hoping to volunteer as a reading tutor, but Lord only knows if it would do any good.

Posted by: Adriane the Quacked Up Critic . . . at March 10, 2023 01:04 PM (jonTH)

23 Dare to be stupid!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 10, 2023 01:04 PM (63Dwl)

24 No. The average score is still 100.

Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:05 PM (Qb4mU)

25 Sending a child into the public school system should be considered abuse.

Neal Boortz was saying that 25 years ago.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 10, 2023 01:05 PM (ZGrMX)

26 The number of people who think a man can choose to be a woman doesn't suggest an increase in IQ.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at March 10, 2023 01:05 PM (eGTCV)

27 Are you smarter than a 5th grader (from Baltimore)?

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 10, 2023 01:05 PM (TNyrE)

28 The Associated Press
@AP
What first looked like a pandemic blip has turned into a crisis as hundreds of thousands of young people opt to forgo college.

So are all these kids learning to become plumbers and carpenters and electricians, or all they all sitting around in mom's basement playing games and ordering Door Dash?

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 10, 2023 01:05 PM (DRSnL)

29 As has been amply documented here and elsewhere, students are just not performing in reading and math like they were just a few years ago.

And yes, K-12 schools are largely the root of this problem.

There is NO reason why a person of average intelligence cannot learn to read or learn algebra/geometry.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2023 01:05 PM (YIVH2)

30 But we can all still live kick-ass lives.

Posted by: eleven at March 10, 2023 01:05 PM (t4fCu)

31 In other words, education failed to blunt the fall in IQ among the youngest. Because, of course, they are getting the full "benefits" of CRT participation-trophy Only Your Feelings Are Really Math education.
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Education is a train wreck. Not only are kids not taught how to think (that has been true for some time now), now they aren't even being taught facts. A kid going through public school with no help from him parents at home isn't even going to learn how to read or add. So yeah, not surprising.

I do wonder what the effects of the big 'ole confounding variable that is the smartphone/social media complex are, though. Education is a disaster and it's a huge part of it, but I strongly suspect it is not the *only* part of it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:05 PM (t0OGg)

32 No time to teach if you're breaking up beatdowns all day long.

Posted by: micky at March 10, 2023 01:05 PM (3byMq)

33 If the tests were upgraded to reflect the "new truths/facts the scores would hold.

Posted by: BignJames at March 10, 2023 01:06 PM (AwYPR)

34 They figured out a way to dumb down an entire nation

Posted by: DB - eschewing the thing at March 10, 2023 01:06 PM (geLO8)

35 What first looked like a pandemic blip has turned into a crisis as hundreds of thousands of young people opt to forgo college.
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Ok. What's the crisis?

Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:06 PM (Qb4mU)

36 Yes, but everyone is equally stupid now.

Posted by: Halfhand at March 10, 2023 01:06 PM (fRfT8)

37 Dumb shitz.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:06 PM (anj39)

38 35 What first looked like a pandemic blip has turned into a crisis as hundreds of thousands of young people opt to forgo college.
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Ok. What's the crisis?
Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:06 PM (Qb4mU)

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Well, in terms of forgoing college, the people are finding out how worthless so much of college is. It's a narrative failure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:06 PM (LvTSG)

39 Most of the time I visit AoSHQ I get an IQ bump.

Most of the time. Other times I need a good delousing.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 10, 2023 01:06 PM (Q4IgG)

40 Ok. What's the crisis?

Kids are missing out on 4 years of parent-free indoctrination.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 10, 2023 01:07 PM (ZGrMX)

41 In dozens of interviews with @AP, educators, researchers and students described a generation jaded by education institutions
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Why would they be jaded by education institutions? It's hard to say why someone who was sentenced to 12-15 years of public education would not be all that inclined to continue it on his own dime. Very odd indeed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:07 PM (t0OGg)

42 hmm, IQ is genetic. America has imported a new population of 3rd worlders. America's IQ goes down.

oh, right, our schools got worse.

well, they did, thanks to equity non punishment of 3rd world students, leading to public schools being basically Oz for kids. but sure...it's the "schools" better spend a few trillion dollars to fix this (i.e., give teachers bigger pensions)

Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 10, 2023 01:07 PM (MLrvz)

43 Purple hair Karen still can't figure out why Johnny at age 10 still can't wipe his own ass.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 10, 2023 01:07 PM (E+05M)

44 No. The average score is still 100.
Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:05 PM (Qb4mU)

Snort!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:07 PM (anj39)

45 you know what the next step will be, right?
Posted by: Ace

TikTok videos?

Posted by: Fetterman at March 10, 2023 01:07 PM (786Ro)

46 IQ tests are not scientific, they wished.

Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 10, 2023 01:07 PM (MLrvz)

47 Life is tough, it's even tougher when you are stupid.

John Wayne

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at March 10, 2023 01:08 PM (OgrpQ)

48 IQ is Rayciss!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 10, 2023 01:08 PM (trdmm)

49 The Associated Press
@AP

What first looked like a pandemic blip has turned into a crisis as hundreds of thousands of young people opt to forgo college.

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To be honest, one does not need a college degree to be a youtube influencer, and that is the number one career goal of most high school students now.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2023 01:08 PM (lTGtQ)

50 I do wonder what the effects of the big 'ole confounding variable that is the smartphone/social media complex are, though. Education is a disaster and it's a huge part of it, but I strongly suspect it is not the *only* part of it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:05 PM (t0OGg)

Agreed.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 10, 2023 01:08 PM (DRSnL)

51 45 you know what the next step will be, right?
Posted by: Ace

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obviously more H1b and illegals.

Posted by: sockamster, gator at March 10, 2023 01:08 PM (MLrvz)

52 "No, it will be demanded that the US taxpayers give colleges even more money to make up for their shortfall,..."

Not only that, fill them with illegal immigrants on your dime. The NYC Mayor just made this proposal;

https://tinyurl.com/z8rvmfhx

Posted by: Marcus T at March 10, 2023 01:08 PM (J47y1)

53 Woke Ignorance Factories...I like it.

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 10, 2023 01:08 PM (sVtYq)

54 There is NO reason why a person of average intelligence cannot learn to read or learn algebra/geometry.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

https://features.apmreports.org/sold-a-story/

Posted by: Adriane the Quacked Up Critic . . . at March 10, 2023 01:08 PM (jonTH)

55 Grandpa's Razor: IQ is an attribute, not a virtue or an accomplishment.

Posted by: Muldoon at March 10, 2023 01:09 PM (ykeLU)

56 >>>Kids are missing out on 4 years of parent-free indoctrination.

And crippling debt to pay for the stunting of their emotional and intellectual growth.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at March 10, 2023 01:09 PM (CwhoI)

57 No, it will be demanded that the US taxpayers give colleges even more money to make up for their shortfall, and pay for almost all of the extraordinarily high tuition they charge, to make wasting time and getting laid in five or six years of "college" so cheap that only the truly disciplined would skip out on it.
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They'll try, yeah. It will probably even happen. It won't work.

Even if we can pay for such a scheme (we can't, but set that aside - fiscal reality will occur all at once, right at the end), it won't have the desired effect. Conservatively, America's colleges and universities are openly hostile to *half* the population. Don't be a man and don't be white. Especially don't be a white man. If you are those things and you go to college, you'll be denigrated and abused for years on end to get that increasingly-worthless sheepskin.

Make it "free" to go to college. Hell, subsidize students directly to some modest degree. Do all of that and watch enrollments fall anyway, at least at traditional schools. Trade schools might do well under such a scheme, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:09 PM (t0OGg)

58 Tide pods.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 10, 2023 01:09 PM (E+05M)

59 So far as I know my son hasn't gotten laid in college. I think in order to get laid you have to ask women out on a date first. This is not an easy thing for introverts on the autism spectrum. He does seem to be doing quite well in his studies, however and his discipline has not been invaded by left wing professors yet.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:10 PM (FUVRY)

60 56 >>>Kids are missing out on 4 years of parent-free indoctrination.

And crippling debt to pay for the stunting of their emotional and intellectual growth.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at March 10, 2023 01:09 PM (CwhoI)

Also, misery.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:10 PM (zZu0s)

61 Well, that accounts for the demented pedophile wearing depends and the cackling knee pad wearer in D.C.

Posted by: FrankinTexas at March 10, 2023 01:10 PM (kPWr2)

62 Soyed up, woke and stupid is no way to go through life, Xir.

Posted by: Dean Wormer, 2023 edtion at March 10, 2023 01:10 PM (786Ro)

63 We homeschooled our daughter. She got her bachelor's in 3 years and graduated cum lade. She also graduated debt free.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at March 10, 2023 01:10 PM (OgrpQ)

64 59 So far as I know my son hasn't gotten laid in college. I think in order to get laid you have to ask women out on a date first.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:10 PM (FUVRY)

It sort of helps.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:10 PM (zZu0s)

65 I don't believe the ones Ace is referring to are smart enough to be classed as stupid.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 10, 2023 01:10 PM (KATBx)

66 Skool. Were dey du de nu maff.

Posted by: Baltimore Honor Student at March 10, 2023 01:10 PM (OZjDX)

67 63 We homeschooled our daughter. She got her bachelor's in 3 years and graduated cum lade. She also graduated debt free.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at March 10, 2023 01:10 PM (OgrpQ)

Grats!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:11 PM (zZu0s)

68 So GenZ is measurably dumber than prior generations. SCIENCE™!

Posted by: I said they were retarded but they didn't believe me! at March 10, 2023 01:11 PM (La8Fd)

69 I have to think importing millions of semi-literate peasants who then raise semi-literate anchor babies isn't helping the numbers

But who cares? The magic Diversity will make up for lower intelligence.

Posted by: Ripley at March 10, 2023 01:11 PM (cUYo/)

70 Have no fear, my friends. The IQ tests will be revised to raise the maximum score, so that all the results will look better but not actually change anything. Exactly what they did for the SAT, LSAT, and other standardized tests. Pretty soon a 200 IQ will be average.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 10, 2023 01:11 PM (iFTx/)

71 60 Also, misery.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:10 PM (zZu0s)

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"Hooking up with that hot, damaged chick isn't going to bite me in the ass, dude. Trust me."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:11 PM (LvTSG)

72 WE must insure that dumb phuck juice is banned in Federal School Lunch Programs.
That's a start ehh?

Posted by: Paul Ryan Step Brother to SHillary at March 10, 2023 01:11 PM (uSdpa)

73 Just got a picture from Grandson of Diogenes #1. He's 14. Sitting on the beach in Key West. He, and Granddaughter #3 of Diogenes (11) are homeschooling whilst they travel with mom and dad across America. 4 hours a day on the school. The rest is seeing and doing.
He called me last week and asked if I had read Homer's The Illiad? I said yes.
So were they both. And getting excellent grades.

*wipes tear*
So proud!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:11 PM (anj39)

74 I saw Grandpa's Razor open for Weezer at the House of Blues back in 2016.

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2023 01:11 PM (EeVCB)

75 Why would a gradually browning US population reflect a decreasing average IQ?

The world may never know. Maybe we can put some of the world’s finest Kenyan or Guatemalan brain scientists on it to figure it out.

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at March 10, 2023 01:11 PM (d1UY/)

76 Little Known Truisms of Dubious Veracity:

If the IQ curve is skewed left, your society is screwed sideways!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 10, 2023 01:12 PM (ykeLU)

77 But who cares? The magic Diversity will make up for lower intelligence.
Posted by: Ripley

Word.

Posted by: Residents of East Palestine at March 10, 2023 01:12 PM (qmOv7)

78 "This is all because Rethuglicans are trying to take us back to the 1950s when gays couldn't have sex in public!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:12 PM (LvTSG)

79 We've seen this before. I think it's a bit too doompill-like. How could they possibly account for sample selection 100 years ago? Who was more likely to take an 'IQ' test then? Was it given under the same methodology and with the same test? Or has the test changed to fit a different vocabulary and syntax of current language.

There's probably dozens of variables that would have to be controlled for. And the big question; what did the researchers desire to see in the results? Would they or their funders want to see 'IQ's reporter higher ? Or is there more money in doom-pilling?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2023 01:12 PM (jzzG8)

80 Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:10 PM (zZu0s)

LOL. I did actually know that. He talks to girls in his classes and there are girls in the school clubs he is in, but he hasn't yet made a connection to talking with girls in the clubs and saying, "You want to go to the cafeteria and have a cup of coffee?."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:12 PM (FUVRY)

81 The left is getting exactly what they want in education. A stupid population is easier to control and an indoctrinated and stupid populace is very easy to control.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 10, 2023 01:13 PM (17s+e)

82 Given that The View has been on TV for many years now, there is no way the IQ of the nation would increase

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 10, 2023 01:13 PM (3f7vf)

83 a mystery without any clues

Posted by: x at March 10, 2023 01:13 PM (ZBPE2)

84 Quilter's Irish Death at March 10, 2023 01:10 PM

That took some dedication and discipline …

Wishing your daughter many successes and happiness.

Posted by: Adriane the Quacked Up Critic . . . at March 10, 2023 01:13 PM (jonTH)

85 It's not just schools, though that is a big part. It's also that we threw open our borders and we're not getting the best and brightest as a result.

Posted by: DPICM at March 10, 2023 01:13 PM (udFwB)

86 If your kid's an idiot - thank a teacher.

Posted by: Next2Nothing at March 10, 2023 01:13 PM (tA1/w)

87 What first looked like a pandemic blip has turned into a crisis as hundreds of thousands of young people opt to forgo college.
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Ok. What's the crisis?
Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:06 PM (Qb4mU)

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Well, in terms of forgoing college, the people are finding out how worthless so much of college is. It's a narrative failure.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:06 PM

Persyns! We must protect our phoney baloney jobs! Harumph, harumph, harumph!

- Kolidge adminstrators everywhere

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 10, 2023 01:13 PM (h6/n7)

88 I have to think importing millions of semi-literate peasants who then raise semi-literate anchor babies isn't helping the numbers

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I would like to see the numbers and the decline broken out by race and country of origin, but I assume they dare not publish that.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2023 01:13 PM (lTGtQ)

89 I'm confident in asserting that have curricula largely set by the state or feds has crushed reaching certain kids. Perhaps a large percentage (that would be math).

Way back in the stone age times, one of the math teachers in HS noticed that a few kids just weren't getting it. He changed his lesson plans to teach using examples surrounding betting on the ponies or sports teams and the like. Some of the kids that appeared as dumb as rocks suddenly grasped the lessons and discovered how this math stuff could fit into life. Instructors have a hell of a time doing something similar today.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 10, 2023 01:13 PM (qoGsy)

90 But who cares? The magic Diversity will make up for lower intelligence.

Posted by: Ripley at March 10, 2023 01:11 PM (cUYo/)

Diversity is the a tax to subsidize incompetence

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at March 10, 2023 01:13 PM (OgrpQ)

91 PS...Hat Tip to Bluebell.

When I started homeschooling the grands at the start of Covid, she was a big help is pointing me in the right direction for getting set up.
See 73. The result. They are doing well.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:13 PM (anj39)

92 Brain development requires a lot of protein. That’s why scientists theorize that early humans were hyper-carnivores, because our evolving braininess required it. So I wonder how much of this declining IQ stuff is due to the lefties’ ditching real meat.

I definitely think that the WEF’s War on Meat is partially an attempt, not only to reduce human population, but also to make the remaining population stupider, and thus easier to control.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 10, 2023 01:13 PM (EZaTx)

93 Whew! I'm glad I took that Mensa test when I did.

Posted by: Eromero at March 10, 2023 01:13 PM (1KS1Z)

94 87 Persyns! We must protect our phoney baloney jobs! Harumph, harumph, harumph!

- Kolidge adminstrators everywhere
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 10, 2023 01:13 PM (h6/n7)

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I didn't get a harumph out of that BIPOC!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:13 PM (LvTSG)

95 If you want to see some really dumb smart people, dive into the comments section of Slashdot, it' wild.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 10, 2023 01:14 PM (oJb1g)

96
There's probably dozens of variables that would have to be controlled for. And the big question; what did the researchers desire to see in the results? Would they or their funders want to see 'IQ's reporter higher ? Or is there more money in doom-pilling?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2023 01:12 PM (jzzG

That last part is huge...I'd expect this is entirely for "the grift" - with the schools still in a 20th century and increasingly too expensive paradigm of education delivery, they don't want to be updated/streamlined/replaced...they want to prove the replacements make people dumber, so they can keep the old school grift going...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 10, 2023 01:14 PM (exHjb)

97 I spoke to a girl the other day who was stuck in a dead end job for a construction company directing traffic around road work. That's all she was eligible for after getting shafted in the public school process and believing the lie that she could make a living being a social media star. She was also overweight due to her buying into all of the lies that was a "healthy" lifestyle. She was severely disillusioned and depressed, and asked me for advice. The first thing I told her was to find God, and his son, and put her trust in them. The next thing I told her was to have a plan for her life, dedicate herself to it, and never quit. I doubt she's the only person who bought into the lies and ended up in a bad place.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 10, 2023 01:14 PM (J47y1)

98 Has anyone tested the coorelation of money spent on education and IQ scores?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 10, 2023 01:14 PM (fs1hN)

99 Little Known Truisms of Dubious Veracity:

If the IQ curve is skewed left, your society is screwed sideways!
Posted by: Muldoon a

🤣🤣🤣

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2023 01:15 PM (EeVCB)

100 "Been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding..."

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 10, 2023 01:15 PM (KbCG3)

101 Way back in the stone age times, one of the math teachers in HS noticed that a few kids just weren't getting it. He changed his lesson plans to teach using examples surrounding betting on the ponies or sports teams and the like. Some of the kids that appeared as dumb as rocks suddenly grasped the lessons and discovered how this math stuff could fit into life. Instructors have a hell of a time doing something similar today.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 10, 2023 01:13 PM (qoGsy)
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In my day job, this is something we constantly tell faculty to do where I work. MAKE EDUCATION RELEVANT TO STUDENTS!

I've seen instructors rattle on about obscure and complex theorems and formulas for hours a time without ever showing students WHY they should learn the material.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2023 01:15 PM (YIVH2)

102 Happy Birthday, Chuck Norris!

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 10, 2023 01:15 PM (W2Pud)

103 Students say farmers need to be shut down because they create global warming.

What will you eat?

We are vegans and will only eat vegetables.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 10, 2023 01:15 PM (E+05M)

104 A nation of imbeciles. Look no further than our political betters.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 10, 2023 01:15 PM (Q4IgG)

105 LOL. I did actually know that. He talks to girls in his classes and there are girls in the school clubs he is in, but he hasn't yet made a connection to talking with girls in the clubs and saying, "You want to go to the cafeteria and have a cup of coffee?."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:12 PM (FUVRY)

In general, I would advise staying away from horde advice. However, try low impact: Cup of coffee. Walk on campus. Increase pressure to stay out of friend zone.

Bold can work, but you have to have the right attitude to pull it off without being a complete asshole.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:15 PM (zZu0s)

106 What's that Simpsons thing about 'We've tried absolutely nothing and now we're all out of ideas!"

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at March 10, 2023 01:15 PM (oedLL)

107 It's not just the schools, and it's not the "diversity".

From 2006 to 2018, the age groups measured generally saw declines in the IQ

The iPhone came out in 2007.

Ask yourself what effects social media and google have on the way our brains process info. Especially young brains full of mush.

Posted by: Dean Wormer, 2023 edtion at March 10, 2023 01:16 PM (786Ro)

108 IIRC the military used to deny men with IQs lower than 80 because they were untrainable and not useful. I'm sure that standard has been lowered..... for DIVERSITY!!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 10, 2023 01:16 PM (17s+e)

109 101 In my day job, this is something we constantly tell faculty to do where I work. MAKE EDUCATION RELEVANT TO STUDENTS!

I've seen instructors rattle on about obscure and complex theorems and formulas for hours a time without ever showing students WHY they should learn the material.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2023 01:15 PM (YIVH2)

========

"If you learn how to do calculus, you will learn how to figure out the correct number of genders in the population."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:16 PM (LvTSG)

110 Math, English and Science probably, but bet they are up on their Marxist rhetoric

Posted by: Skip at March 10, 2023 01:16 PM (hZwWv)

111 It took a professor to figure that one out?
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Multiple professors, and a lot of sweet, sweet taxpayer money.

Posted by: screaming in digital at March 10, 2023 01:16 PM (aBJcM)

112 Way back in the stone age times, one of the math teachers in HS noticed that a few kids just weren't getting it. He changed his lesson plans to teach using examples surrounding betting on the ponies or sports teams and the like. Some of the kids that appeared as dumb as rocks suddenly grasped the lessons and discovered how this math stuff could fit into life. Instructors have a hell of a time doing something similar today.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 10, 2023 01:13 PM (qoGsy)
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When I was in the fifth grade (I think, though it might have been fourth), we were doing rudimentary decimals. Easy stuff. A few students were *not* getting it and the teacher (such as he was, which wasn't much) was not getting through to them. I raised my hand and said, "Do it as money. Everyone knows what a buck fifty is, and 1.5 is the same as $1.50, which is a buck and a half."

For one of the kids, the light bulb immediately turned on. The teacher, though, refused to do it. He said, "that's very crass. Not everything is about money, and I don't want to encourage people to always think about money."

Frickin' communists, man.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:16 PM (t0OGg)

113 The Weekend is coming, the weekend is coming

Posted by: Skip at March 10, 2023 01:16 PM (hZwWv)

114 >>98 Has anyone tested the coorelation of money spent on education and IQ scores?
Posted by: Chuck Martel

I've seen regression charts of teachers salaries vs test scores. It's what you would expect.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 10, 2023 01:17 PM (E+05M)

115 106 What's that Simpsons thing about 'We've tried absolutely nothing and now we're all out of ideas!"
Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at March 10, 2023 01:15 PM (oedLL)

Heh.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:17 PM (zZu0s)

116 106 What's that Simpsons thing about 'We've tried absolutely nothing and now we're all out of ideas!"
Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at March 10, 2023 01:15 PM (oedLL)

Damn beatnicks.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 10, 2023 01:17 PM (KbCG3)

117 He called me last week and asked if I had read Homer's The Illiad? I said yes.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:11 PM

Στο πρωτότυπο ελληνικό;

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 10, 2023 01:17 PM (a3Q+t)

118 Grandpa's Razor: IQ is an attribute, not a virtue or an accomplishment. - Muldoon

Truth.

Posted by: mrp at March 10, 2023 01:17 PM (rj6Yv)

119 I suspect that the average ability of the people living in the US to learn is unchanged. What has changed is a third of the people in the US can't read or speak English.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:17 PM (anj39)

120 Here's another razor for you: "viewed over a sufficiently short time span, any cyclical phenomenon can be seen as linear."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2023 01:17 PM (tkR6S)

121 112 For one of the kids, the light bulb immediately turned on. The teacher, though, refused to do it. He said, "that's very crass. Not everything is about money, and I don't want to encourage people to always think about money."

Frickin' communists, man.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:16 PM (t0OGg)

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Theory: He's a time traveling Starfleet officer.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:17 PM (LvTSG)

122 I normally wouldn't care, but I realize that these are the shitheads who will be caring for me when I am 95 and shitting the bed.

Posted by: Mark1971 at March 10, 2023 01:17 PM (xPl2J)

123 This is alarming news. Shocking, perhaps demoralizing.

Someone should put together a crackerjack team of phrenologists to address this problem!

Nah, kiddin'. Just like using the word "phrenologist".

Posted by: Boxx Culvert, 2023 pronouns: Shad/dap at March 10, 2023 01:17 PM (mFCvH)

124 *tries to pound square peg in round hole*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 10, 2023 01:17 PM (n1JsZ)

125 Tide pods.

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I saw a commercial just a couple days ago for Tide Pods...and they were boasting their "child proof" packaging. Not for mommy's Valium. Not for the skull and crossbones caustic cleaner under the sink. For soap. Yes, we now have to lock up the soap...

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 10, 2023 01:18 PM (sVtYq)

126 It's not the education, it's the effect of all the shit in our food and environmental factors that disrupt our endocrine systems and wreak all manner of havoc with our health.

I would also be willing to bet that the fact that people have their faces buried in phone screens practically from birth has something to do with it.

I don't disagree that education today is shit; I just don't think it's the major factor in play here.

Posted by: AndrewR at March 10, 2023 01:18 PM (g+oXQ)

127
To be honest, one does not need a college degree to be a youtube influencer, and that is the number one career goal of most high school students now.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

It's amazing how social media has turned "freelance junk salesperson" into a career to aspire to.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 10, 2023 01:18 PM (n+4am)

128 "If you learn how to do calculus, you will learn how to figure out the correct number of genders in the population."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:16 PM (LvTSG)

Do I carry the 1 or cut it off? This shit is so confusing.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 10, 2023 01:18 PM (KbCG3)

129 I see what is expected of my kids.

IQ is being taught to think. In my daughters high school, where she is a junior, she may have read a little more than half a dozen books so far. There is no more creative writing. All writing must be formulaic so that children are pressed into office drones and not independent creative thinkers.

Math has been under attack for over a decade with common core, where they confuse the shit out of kids by making them multiple ways of doing math. I tell my kids do it my way and ignore their bullshit, even when the teachers complain to me that I’m not preparing them. I tell them - they are prepared. Just not the way you want.

It is no surprise that iq has dropped. I’ve been saying that now just by observations of how bad the teaching is.

most intelligent woman nowadays go into something that makes them a ton of cash. So if your kids are being taught by the dumbest in society, there is no surprise

Posted by: Justin Castreau at March 10, 2023 01:18 PM (V8yYW)

130 124 *tries to pound square peg in round hole*
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 10, 2023 01:17 PM (n1JsZ)

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Have you called them racist yet?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:18 PM (LvTSG)

131 The study, published in a spring 2023 edition of Intelligence, measures IQ test results among 18- to 60-year-olds

Look, if they added my super-high IQ to that age group and recalculated the average, the result would be the highest IQ in history for that age group! No Joke! You doubt me? Hey, Fat, I was calculating tangentneuses before you were born!

Posted by: Joe IQ at March 10, 2023 01:18 PM (AMIL/)

132 learn algebra/geometry.

Told I had a 168 IQ in elementary school.
But
"The New Math" was a fad then. Even the teachers couldn't understand that shit.
Jr high science teacher decided I was a smart aleck behind his back at black board (it wasn't me). Told me to leave classroom, a "temporary" building on campus. He kicked me from behind, I fell down the stairs.
High school algebra? Girl next to me asked the same question I was about to. Answer? Male teacher slapped her smartly across her face.

I LEARNED NOT TO LEARN.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Green Power Failure at March 10, 2023 01:18 PM (NZACN)

133 IIRC the military used to deny men with IQs lower than 80 because they were untrainable and not useful. I'm sure that standard has been lowered..... for DIVERSITY!!!
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger

McNamara's Morons were unavailable for comment because they all said "hold my beer and watch this".

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at March 10, 2023 01:19 PM (qmOv7)

134 Those five million new long-term tourists from Central America will help raise that up!

Waht?

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 10, 2023 01:19 PM (WmGrA)

135 119 I suspect that the average ability of the people living in the US to learn is unchanged. What has changed is a third of the people in the US can't read or speak English.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:17 PM (anj39)

And that's just the recent high school graduates, regardless of race.

Posted by: Sphynx at March 10, 2023 01:19 PM (P6qMv)

136 If Trayvon controls 5 corners and each corner can move 100 kilos every month, what is the slope of kilos as corners approaches infinity?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 10, 2023 01:19 PM (oJb1g)

137 127
To be honest, one does not need a college degree to be a youtube influencer, and that is the number one career goal of most high school students now.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

It's amazing how social media has turned "freelance junk salesperson" into a career to aspire to.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 10, 2023 01:18 PM (n+4am)

Just taking over past careers of door-to-door salesman and tupperware party host...every generation has this group...especially around these ages...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 10, 2023 01:19 PM (exHjb)

138 IQ tests will have to be reformulated to adopt DEI and all things leftist to be truly worthwhile measurements of intelligence. A federal grant worth several hundred million dollars will be awarded to some connected leftist "think tank" to completely re-do IQ tests so only the retarded are smart.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 10, 2023 01:20 PM (Q4IgG)

139 Στο πρωτότυπο ελληνικό;
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 10, 2023 01:17 PM (a3Q+t)

όχι

Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:20 PM (anj39)

140 Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:15 PM (zZu0s)

Thanks. That sounds sensible and I have talked to him, I think his main idea is to do well and get and internship for the summer. If he doesn't get laid during the entirety of school I won't be bothered as long as he's happy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:20 PM (FUVRY)

141 Theory: He's a time traveling Starfleet officer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:17 PM (LvTSG)
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Not a chance. Starfleet officers tended to be competent. This guy was just a commie poofter. Even as a kid, I had little patience for that.

That whole school was a disaster. I was invited to not return after the fifth grade. I didn't get expelled, but they made it very clear to my parents and me that I was *not* welcome to come back. It was a "choice school" and so they can ensure perfect conformity.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:20 PM (t0OGg)

142 My IQ is "terry cloth"

Posted by: Fetterman at March 10, 2023 01:20 PM (786Ro)

143 For one of the kids, the light bulb immediately turned on. The teacher, though, refused to do it. He said, "that's very crass. Not everything is about money, and I don't want to encourage people to always think about money."

Frickin' communists, man.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:16 PM (t0OGg)

Fucking retard. People need some tangible way to relate to new concepts- this is one reason why physics and like P-Chem can give people issues- lack of visualization and relatability.

It is not about being materialistic moron, it is something that have some familiarity with and therefore can be used to help them understand how the principle works.

Fuck. I hate people. Knowledge/Mastery is about getting a 'feel' for something. Anyone can be taught to do A, B or C, but once you understand how A, B or C WORK and relate to one another, you can then expand that to other things.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:20 PM (zZu0s)

144 "If you learn how to do calculus, you will learn how to figure out the correct number of genders in the population."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:16 PM (LvTSG)

Do I carry the 1 or cut it off? This shit is so confusing.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at March 10, 2023 01:18 PM (KbCG3)

Is that like derivative or integral calculus?

Posted by: mrp at March 10, 2023 01:20 PM (rj6Yv)

145 This is another area where red state governors are letting us down.

40 years ago college cost about as much as a new car. For 4 years of it. Now it cost as much as a house.

Make the "new car promise". State schools can't charge more then 8K TOTAL per year - including room and board.

If they have an issue with that new budget framework they can fire administrators until they make it work.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2023 01:20 PM (lc5cP)

146
OUT: Intelligence Quotient
IN: Indoctrination Quotient

Posted by: Tex Lovera at March 10, 2023 01:21 PM (wtvvX)

147 Well, starting in 1965 our immigration system has been focused on skin color not language, education and skills, so is anyone surprised the nations IQ is dropping?

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 10, 2023 01:21 PM (FndDK)

148 141 That whole school was a disaster. I was invited to not return after the fifth grade. I didn't get expelled, but they made it very clear to my parents and me that I was *not* welcome to come back. It was a "choice school" and so they can ensure perfect conformity.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:20 PM (t0OGg)

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"We value individualism, but Joe Mannix is most likely a cop. Also, he's too independent."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:21 PM (LvTSG)

149 Thanks. That sounds sensible and I have talked to him, I think his main idea is to do well and get and internship for the summer. If he doesn't get laid during the entirety of school I won't be bothered as long as he's happy.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:20 PM (FUVRY)

The right way to go. Just make sure he is keeping his eyes open. Opportunities can come at you fast, and I am not talking about empty sex, but the kind of thing you would want for him.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:21 PM (zZu0s)

150 Does falling down and knocking your noggin affect your IQ. Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell's nurse at March 10, 2023 01:21 PM (786Ro)

151 "If you learn how to do calculus, you will learn how to figure out the correct number of genders in the population."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Hey Baby, wanna come up to my room and see my asymptote?

Posted by: Tonypete at March 10, 2023 01:21 PM (qoGsy)

152 You ask why learning punctuation is important? I'll tell you why, kids.

Someday, when you grow up, you may be privileged to comment on Ace of Spades HQ, and when you do, you'll want to be respected. Revered, even.

#CommasMatter

Posted by: Assistant Associate AoSHQ Copy Editor, Punctuation Brigade, Oxford Comma Company at March 10, 2023 01:21 PM (a3Q+t)

153 More and more I see IQ is overrated. As I've expressed previously I'd rather talk to a stupid person whose mind is their own than a smart person who is a brainwashed cult indoctrinated turd.

I actually posit that people of above average IQ who think they are 10 to 15 points smarter than they are are the easiest to trick, manipulate and brainwash long term because they have something to prove and therein lies your hook. Stupid people don't have to prove anything except being skilled at something else.

One may say they don't want to talk to either but that is missing the point. Also the very smartest people in the world know they are idiots. Morons, even.

Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (zBJLs)

154 I've seen instructors rattle on about obscure and complex theorems and formulas for hours a time without ever showing students WHY they should learn the material.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2023 01:15 PM (YIVH2)

I know I'm weird, but I usually learn better when it is kept completely abstract for some reason.

Posted by: InZona at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (T6ga+)

155 ... It is not about being materialistic moron, it is something that have some familiarity with and therefore can be used to help them understand how the principle works. ...
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:20 PM (zZu0s)
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Well sure. But if you're boring old communist to whom money is the root of all evil, your hands are tied.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (t0OGg)

156 Just start a DeSantis vs Trump and you see evidence of IQ scores dropping. Just the fact that some still think we’re going to have a free n fair presidential election in 24’ is laughable. “DeSantis gonna do this, Trump gonna do that”.
No dumbasses, where the F have you been and WTF have you been watching for the last 3 years? The mid terms was the moose out front that shoulda told ya.
But hey, let’s argue for the sake of arguing, right?

Posted by: JROD at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (NuZuD)

157 What first looked like a pandemic blip has turned into a crisis as hundreds of thousands of young people opt to forgo college.

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Well, at least their IQs are rising, so we've got that going for us ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (zkqkL)

158 IIRC the military used to deny men with IQs lower than 80 because they were untrainable and not useful. I'm sure that standard has been lowered..... for DIVERSITY!!!

I suspect those with an IQ over 80 don't want to die in the war Biden wants to start...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (lc5cP)

159 Anyone ever made canned crescent rolls w/apple/cherry pie filling? Any good?

Posted by: BignJames at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (AwYPR)

160 The Weekend is coming, the weekend is coming
Posted by: Skip

*******

Posted by: Skip Revere

Posted by: Muldoon at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (ykeLU)

161 The professors who authored the study theorize that the quality of education could play a role in reversing the IQ gains enjoyed by previous generations.

Okay. They should stop using all the new and improved methods of teaching that have resulted in this decline and go back to teaching in ways that are effective.

Also, no discussions of teachers' personal and sex lives in classrooms. They have to get real friends for that.

Posted by: huerfano at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (dTFZY)

162 155 Well sure. But if you're boring old communist to whom money is the root of all evil, your hands are tied.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (t0OGg)

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You know what is not the root of all evil?

A class war that murders everyone who has more than you.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:23 PM (LvTSG)

163 In 1970 California Public Schools were in the Top 3 nationwide. Now they are third from the bottom. What happened?

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 10, 2023 01:23 PM (FndDK)

164 Mazie Hirono is a bar accredited lawyer.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 10, 2023 01:23 PM (E+05M)

165 163 In 1970 California Public Schools were in the Top 3 nationwide. Now they are third from the bottom. What happened?
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 10, 2023 01:23 PM (FndDK)

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Racism.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:23 PM (LvTSG)

166 For one of the kids, the light bulb immediately turned on. The teacher, though, refused to do it. He said, "that's very crass. Not everything is about money, and I don't want to encourage people to always think about money."

Frickin' communists, man.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:16 PM (t0OGg)

Finance(and economics because they tend to insert unnecessary calculus) majors tend to be pretty good at math.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2023 01:23 PM (eYoxG)

167 Teachers: Money isn't really that important in a career

Also Teachers: I'm going on strike if I don't get a raise this year!

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2023 01:23 PM (lc5cP)

168
Hey, girl, what’s you sine?
It must be pi/2 because you are the 1.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 10, 2023 01:24 PM (a3Q+t)

169 Try passing an 8th grade test from a hundred years ago. Good grief.

Posted by: abbynormal at March 10, 2023 01:24 PM (2BaLy)

170 I know I'm weird, but I usually learn better when it is kept completely abstract for some reason.
Posted by: InZona at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (T6ga+)
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Different people learn differently. I've very, very auditory. I can listen to a lecture without visual aids and do fine (or read it in a book or whatever), but some people really need those visual aids to grok it. Some people dig the abstract, others need real-world examples to ground it.

A good teacher does all of it to the best of his ability. Provide the abstract *and* the grounded, preferably in the same lesson. Use the visual aids and the people who don't care about them will just tune them out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:24 PM (t0OGg)

171
Okay. They should stop using all the new and improved methods of teaching that have resulted in this decline and go back to teaching in ways that are effective.

Also, no discussions of teachers' personal and sex lives in classrooms. They have to get real friends for that.
Posted by: huerfano at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (dTFZY)

I think they have gone back to phonics recently from discussions with a neighbor. Whole word learning was a shitshow.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2023 01:24 PM (eYoxG)

172 167 Teachers: Money isn't really that important in a career

Also Teachers: I'm going on strike if I don't get a raise this year!
Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2023 01:23 PM (lc5cP)

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It's for the children.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:24 PM (LvTSG)

173 @TheBabylonBee 27s
Chili’s Introduces New Silent Fajitas For Introverts

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2023 01:24 PM (jzzG8)

174
The left: Everything is worse now because we have more racism!

Also the left: Anyone that values American culture from before is racist!

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2023 01:24 PM (lc5cP)

175 You know what is not the root of all evil?

A class war that murders everyone who has more than you.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:23 PM (LvTSG)
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Right. That is, in fact, the essence of a moral system.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:25 PM (t0OGg)

176 159 Anyone ever made canned crescent rolls w/apple/cherry pie filling? Any good?
Posted by: BignJames at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (AwYPR)

Yes...and yes! Just be careful making b/c they'll start getting sticky and hard to close as you keep going.

Posted by: Nova Local at March 10, 2023 01:25 PM (exHjb)

177 Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:21 PM (zZu0s)

That sounds sensible.. His dad's approach (He was putting himself through school by working and also worked at the math and english lab where I also worked was to say to me, ""Want to go get a sandwich at the cafeteria?" and here we are ***mumble mumble**** years later.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:25 PM (FUVRY)

178 In 1970 California Public Schools were in the Top 3 nationwide. Now they are third from the bottom. What happened?
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 10, 2023 01:23 PM (FndDK)

Commies.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at March 10, 2023 01:25 PM (57n01)

179 The disastrous problems with "education" are manifest and obvious, but I do wonder about the objective significance of this IQ score thing.

As others have noted, measurement issues and correction for various factors likely muddle up everything to where there can be no strong inferences drawn.

One obvious factor however does lend itself to (yeah, of course) dark observations. Mass immigration is something the US has experienced before (in fact, in modern history, and as a deliberate policy, the US is nearly unique in this). It has always come with problems, unsurprisingly.

But the largest/most famous period of (legal, intentional) mass immigration, late 19th and early 20th centuries, was accompanied by *assimilation* to an amazing degree. It was an ethic, a value, as much as a policy. The Ukrainian- or Yiddish- or Polish-speaking father in the NYC tenements telling his son he'd whup him if heard him speak Ukrainian outside the home was a real thing. Ditto the Vietnamese immigrant parents who spoke little English and whose kids dominate(d) the academic heights (in *public* schools) in SoCal since the 80s.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2023 01:25 PM (OTzUX)

180 The day is coming soon where IQ will place a distant second to street smarts.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 10, 2023 01:25 PM (Xrfse)

181 Tide pods.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Who would have guessed this is all Gronk's fault.

Posted by: micky at March 10, 2023 01:25 PM (3byMq)

182 151 "If you learn how to do calculus, you will learn how to figure out the correct number of genders in the population."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Hey Baby, wanna come up to my room and see my asymptote?

Posted by: Tonypete at March 10, 2023 01:21 PM (qoGsy)

From a '70s National Lampoon -

Learn Calculus!
- Add to your income!
- Subtract from your worries!
- Multiply your chances for advancement!
- Divide and conquer the woman of your dreams!

Posted by: Gref at March 10, 2023 01:26 PM (AMIL/)

183 Bold can work, but you have to have ~~the right attitude~~ a lot of money to pull it off without being a complete asshole.

FIFY.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 10, 2023 01:26 PM (ZGrMX)

184 No dumbasses, where the F have you been and WTF have you been watching for the last 3 years? The mid terms was the moose out front that shoulda told ya.
But hey, let’s argue for the sake of arguing, right?
Posted by: JROD at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (NuZuD)

Votin' for Harris then? Tulsi? Will you sit it out and let the county elections office cast your vote for the next blue wave?

Stop whining and state your position, all you are doing now is making people upset and depressed

Posted by: Kindltot at March 10, 2023 01:26 PM (xhaym)

185 IQ is dropping the world over as are Testosterone levels. Are the two things related?

Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:26 PM (SsHIN)

186 One may say they don't want to talk to either but that is missing the point. Also the very smartest people in the world know they are idiots. Morons, even.
Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (zBJLs)

Important to know what you know, and know what you don't know. Even better if you can realize it before screwing up.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2023 01:26 PM (eYoxG)

187 Griggs v. Duke power is a bad of law as Plessy and Korematsu

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 10, 2023 01:26 PM (Yq2iq)

188 I normally wouldn't care, but I realize that these are the shitheads who will be caring for me when I am 95 and shitting the bed.

Posted by: Mark1971

I was walking to lunch with the corporate treasurer several years ago, and we saw some hoodlums wearing bizarre clothes and haircuts, skipping school. He laughed, and pointed out that people like me would pay for his retirement, and people like that would be expected to pay for mine.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2023 01:26 PM (lTGtQ)

189 I know I'm weird, but I usually learn better when it is kept completely abstract for some reason.
Posted by: InZona at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (T6ga+)
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There are outliers in every field.

But ACTUAL educational research shows quite clearly that students learn better when they can figure out how to fit themselves into the learning situation.

Take Weasel's firearms course, for instance (and I have at the TXMOME). He'll talk about abstract topics like windage and MOAs and such, but at the end of the day you go out the range and put that into practice so that you can fully understand how to become a much better shot. He stands behind you and guides you through the process.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2023 01:26 PM (YIVH2)

190
It's not just schools, though that is a big part. It's also that we threw open our borders and we're not getting the best and brightest as a result.
Posted by: DPICM

I have an even scarier scenario for you. In fact, we ARE getting their best and brightest.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 10, 2023 01:26 PM (n+4am)

191 Okay. They should stop using all the new and improved methods of teaching that have resulted in this decline and go back to teaching in ways that are effective.
Posted by: huerfano at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (dTFZY)
++++
https://youtu.be/UIKGV2cTgqA

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:26 PM (t0OGg)

192 What do you mean I have a low IQ? My eyes are fine.

Posted by: B.S. in Pronouns at March 10, 2023 01:26 PM (wUHYj)

193 I saw Pandemic Blip open for Arcade Fire at the Saddledome in '01

Posted by: Hands at March 10, 2023 01:27 PM (786Ro)

194 To be fare, you will get a better edumacashun reading AoS ever day than you would by attending any woke kolledge!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at March 10, 2023 01:27 PM (hOUT3)

195 167 Teachers: Money isn't really that important in a career

Also Teachers: I'm going on strike if I don't get a raise this year!
Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2023 01:23 PM (lc5cP)

And only work 9 months a year.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:27 PM (zZu0s)

196 Federal Student Loan Program is 100% the problem.

It creates an artificial demand, so colleges naturally raised prices. As more and more mouthbreathers took free money to get in, more colleges were enticed to take that money, which required them to lower standards. Mouthbreathers aren't discerning when they spend money that isn't theirs, and so the Woke death spiral began, as dunces who couldn't have gained entrance prior to lowered standards also didn't like taking hard courses.

Enter Gender Studies as the modern Basket Weaving 101. That shit was self-limiting before, because only the asshole children of wealthy assholes could afford to waste money on those courses, but now the asshole children of a wealthy asshole government have carte blanche to fuck up our whole society.

But, thank God a few people could benefit from this system who really needed the help. Am I right?

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 10, 2023 01:27 PM (b306O)

197 Paging Dr. Bloom... Dr. Allen Bloom, to the white courtesy phone please...

Posted by: BurtTC at March 10, 2023 01:27 PM (F4UJc)

198 This a feature, not a bug. This IS the desired outcome and it's all part and parcel of the destruction of western civilization.

GOP Solution: "Hey! You want to fix 'education'? YOU NEED A TAX CUT!"

Posted by: No Shirt Shylock at March 10, 2023 01:27 PM (PWI4f)

199 Chili’s Introduces New Silent Fajitas For Introverts

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2023 01:24 PM (jzzG

That's funny shit

Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:27 PM (SsHIN)

200 One of my kids did 2 years in public school K, could not read, had no interest in learning, could only count to 20.

My other 2 are halfway through their first year of K in Christian school, reading, writing, doing math.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 10, 2023 01:28 PM (TXtUO)

201 180 The day is coming soon where IQ will place a distant second to street smarts.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 10, 2023 01:25 PM (Xrfse)

Gang bosses tend to have higher IQs than their minions. Many competitions between humans have a lot in common.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2023 01:28 PM (eYoxG)

202 They want intelligence and unquestionable loyalty.
They want a north Korean citizen.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 10, 2023 01:28 PM (V/Uak)

203 Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:21 PM (zZu0s)

But as far as dating, I don't know that's there's anything necessarily wrong with the friend zone. FenSpouse and I were friends and then we dated and then we got married. So I knew him as a decent, smart, interesting person before all hot and heavy feelings were involved.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:28 PM (FUVRY)

204 Another small change...require teachers to have either a degree in what they are teaching or 20 years or more in the field.

So want to teach chemistry? BS in Chemistry or 20 years working as a chemist. Education degree additionally is optional.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2023 01:28 PM (lc5cP)

205 In 1970 California Public Schools were in the Top 3 nationwide. Now they are third from the bottom. What happened?
Posted by: Pudinhead

Average IQ of Mexico is 87. California is now a part of Mexico.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at March 10, 2023 01:28 PM (qmOv7)

206 Muldoon's first IQ Test:

Question #1: Spell IQ

Muldoon: "Damn, this is going to be tougher than I expected!"

Posted by: Muldoon at March 10, 2023 01:28 PM (ykeLU)

207 Surprise! For the First Time in 100 Years, American IQ Scores Are Dropping"

They must have surveyed congress

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 10, 2023 01:28 PM (S+j2h)

208 IIRC the military used to deny men with IQs lower than 80 because they were untrainable and not useful. I'm sure that standard has been lowered..... for DIVERSITY!!!
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger

Actually the test used by the military is the ASVAB...Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery (if I remember correctly). It does not measure IQ per ce, but general trainability in a variety of areas. The idea then is the recruiter can steer the applicant into a military specialty that is suitable for them. The overall GT score is often seen as an indicator of IQ, but is not a direct replacement.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:28 PM (anj39)

209 Yes...and yes! Just be careful making b/c they'll start getting sticky and hard to close as you keep going.

Posted by: Nova Local at March 10, 2023 01:25 PM (exHjb)

TY!

Posted by: BignJames at March 10, 2023 01:29 PM (AwYPR)

210 I think they have gone back to phonics recently from discussions with a neighbor. Whole word learning was a shitshow.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2023 01:24 PM (eYoxG)
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That's excellent! Yes, "whole word" learning really was (and continues to be) a disaster. Might as well learn Chinese while you are at it. Or perhaps that's the plan.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2023 01:29 PM (YIVH2)

211 Does IQ get you ahead in this world more than selling your soul?

What are we breeding more of? High IQ people or soul sellers?

Want to know the answer? Ask an expert.

Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:29 PM (SsHIN)

212 Christian school does not use tablets or computers.

Public school issued a tablet to each kid and lessons were all computer based.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 10, 2023 01:29 PM (TXtUO)

213 I think they have gone back to phonics recently from discussions with a neighbor. Whole word learning was a shitshow.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead!

You might find this article on Not teaching phonics (and the consequences!) interesting:

https://features.apmreports.org/sold-a-story/

Posted by: Adriane the Quacked Up Critic . . . at March 10, 2023 01:29 PM (jonTH)

214 Dunanthrax @ 117-
That's the one with Testicles battling the squid, right?

Posted by: Eromero at March 10, 2023 01:29 PM (1KS1Z)

215 It creates an artificial demand, so colleges naturally raised prices. ...
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 10, 2023 01:27 PM (b306O)
++++
But throwing money at things is literally all we know how to do! What will we do if we can't subsidize?!

Posted by: The Government at March 10, 2023 01:30 PM (t0OGg)

216 Suburban Karen thinks giving more tax money to the public schools will help little Asher address his masturbating with razor blades. She hopes the school will convince little Asher to transition to a girl so the trips to the hospital can end.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 10, 2023 01:30 PM (E+05M)

217 But as far as dating, I don't know that's there's anything necessarily wrong with the friend zone

Many attractive women have male "friends" they keep around for favors. It is...toxic.

This is different then having a friend of the opposite sex as you wouldn't ask a random male friend for favors that only go one way.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2023 01:30 PM (lc5cP)

218 And I think what haelped make a big difference is that son
in was read to at an early age and always had a great interest in reading, but I am glad he is out of K-12 school.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:30 PM (FUVRY)

219 Well it takes a lot of work to make people smart. It's no longer important to have smart citizens, just compliant ones.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 10, 2023 01:30 PM (/6ur0)

220 My kids in private school didn't get nearly the education I got in private school.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at March 10, 2023 01:30 PM (U8kCF)

221 To be fare, you will get a better edumacashun reading AoS ever day than you would by attending any woke kolledge!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana - again! ~ at March 10, 2023 01:27 PM (hOUT3)
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To be fair, schools with <50% literacy rates among their graduates are a shining example of how keeping your children home and only teaching them to read the Bible gives them a tremendous societal advantage over 60% of Gen Pop in the Feudalist Dictatorship of America.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 10, 2023 01:30 PM (b306O)

222 Muldoon's first IQ Test:

Question #1: Spell IQ

Muldoon: "Damn, this is going to be tougher than I expected!"
Posted by: Muldoon at March 10, 2023 01:28 PM (ykeLU)

Duh!
It's Eye Que!
Clearly you will do well in the forestry tree planting, or the fast food industries.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:30 PM (anj39)

223 Eye Cue

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 10, 2023 01:30 PM (TXtUO)

224 Gonna be honest...

Season 3 of Picard is really good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:31 PM (LvTSG)

225 Back in the golden era (not that long ago), in CA you could not just get a good education in public schools, you could go from K to graduate school in public education, end up with a top-flight/prestigious (when it meant something) pedigree ..... for virtual pennies. Or, actually more accurate for the time, K to bachelor's degree (that was real) for very little money.

Even without utilizing the excellent, incredibly cheap junior college system to further reduce costs on the way to a bachelor's.

Sure, as with many social changes, lots of wheels turning here. But impossible to overstate how disgusting, tragic, and infuriating this collapse has been.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2023 01:31 PM (OTzUX)

226 Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2023 01:30 PM (lc5cP)

I'm sure that's true. I am not personally familiar with that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:31 PM (FUVRY)

227 My kids in private school didn't get nearly the education I got in private school.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at March 10, 2023 01:30 PM (U8kCF)

Go on

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 10, 2023 01:31 PM (S+j2h)

228 Whole word learning, because overwhelming parts of the brain that have ZERO business being involved in the act of reading makes perfect sense! If you are a fucking sadist.

Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:31 PM (CXOJw)

229 So want to teach chemistry? BS in Chemistry or 20 years working as a chemist. Education degree additionally is optional.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2023 01:28 PM (lc5cP)
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This isn't quite as foolproof as it sounds. I work with a lot of instructors who are subject matter experts in many different areas. However, they are often pretty poor teachers. They have forgotten how they crossed the bridge from "novice" to "expert" so they have difficulty helping students make that same transition.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2023 01:32 PM (YIVH2)

230 Another triumph for the Biden Administration: Saudi Arabia and Iran have reestablished diplomatic relations.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at March 10, 2023 01:32 PM (CwhoI)

231 Christian school does not use tablets or computers.

I think that makes a huge different.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:32 PM (FUVRY)

232 For one of the kids, the light bulb immediately turned on. The teacher, though, refused to do it. He said, "that's very crass. Not everything is about money, and I don't want to encourage people to always think about money."

Frickin' communists, man.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Wow. That makes me ill.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2023 01:32 PM (jzzG8)

233 This is another area where red state governors are letting us down.

40 years ago college cost about as much as a new car. For 4 years of it. Now it cost as much as a house.

Make the "new car promise". State schools can't charge more then 8K TOTAL per year - including room and board.

If they have an issue with that new budget framework they can fire administrators until they make it work.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2023 01:20 PM

When I graduated from high skrewel, UMASS Amherst was $4K/year for tuition. Harvard was about $18K. But you never hear a word about Big Ed gouging the students or see stories about how the price of education is rising much faster than inflation. Funny thing, that...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 10, 2023 01:32 PM (h6/n7)

234 The disastrous problems with "education" are manifest and obvious, but I do wonder about the objective significance of this IQ score thing.
[ . . . ]
Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2023 01:25 PM (OTzUX)

Grandpa was a high school principle (and later a college math prof) and he would tell everyone that IQ was questionable, and pointed out that my Mom, who attended his high school, did very poorly in the IQ test.
Now, Mom had some issues about being the oldest and being in High School and under Grandpa who was a bit of a tyrant, a out of the house and married as fast as possible, but she also was a fantastic math teacher and mentored unending numbers of young women teachers she worked with.
She didn't trust IQ either and felt hard work was more important

Posted by: Kindltot at March 10, 2023 01:32 PM (xhaym)

235 sorry-"difference"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:32 PM (FUVRY)

236 224 Gonna be honest...

Season 3 of Picard is really good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:31 PM (LvTSG)

When I cycle back to Paramount Plus (on my 2024 list) will I have to watch seasons 1-2, b/c I avoided them?

Posted by: Nova Local at March 10, 2023 01:33 PM (exHjb)

237 Id love to know the drop when they don't account for Asian students, it's probably monumental

Posted by: Rbastid at March 10, 2023 01:33 PM (K+KQZ)

238 Diogenes, has the ASVAB been trending down too? And can you adjust those numbers to yield meaningful inferences?

Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2023 01:33 PM (OTzUX)

239 I don’t get the silent fajita joke.

Hope that doesn’t mean I failed the AOS IQ test.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 10, 2023 01:33 PM (EZaTx)

240 A large majority of HS grads today cannot understand writings in cursive. How do they sign their name to documents?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 10, 2023 01:33 PM (E+05M)

241 Anyone ever made canned crescent rolls w/apple/cherry pie filling? Any good?
Posted by: BignJames at March 10, 2023 01:22 PM (AwYPR)
***

Just got my ass chewed by Mrs D for eating the last cherry one.
It was worth it.
Mmmmmm!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:33 PM (anj39)

242 And by 'street smarts' I was implying good ol' fashioned common sense, coupled with an innate ability to adapt and ultimately survive.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 10, 2023 01:33 PM (Xrfse)

243 Public education has been shit for decades but it entered a whole new level of shit with Common Core.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 10, 2023 01:34 PM (SLV5u)

244 Three generations of imbeciles are not enough!

Posted by: zombie justice holmes, sporting a goatee at March 10, 2023 01:34 PM (Vwz3I)

245 Question #2: Write your name.

Muldoon: "Hmmm. I think I'll leave that blank for now and come back at the end if I have time."

Posted by: Muldoon at March 10, 2023 01:34 PM (ykeLU)

246 236 When I cycle back to Paramount Plus (on my 2024 list) will I have to watch seasons 1-2, b/c I avoided them?
Posted by: Nova Local at March 10, 2023 01:33 PM (exHjb)

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No. There's one character introduced from the previous seasons in this. There's also a professional relationship between Picard and 7 of 9 that was developed in the first two seasons that gets played on. That's it.

I never watched season 2, though. Season 1 was bad enough.

Season 3, at least through episode 3, might be the best Star Trek has been since...the best of TNG?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:34 PM (LvTSG)

247 20 When did "common core" start in the schools? Bet that had something to do with the drop in IQ.
Posted by: Toni at March 10, 2023 01:04 PM (PgM6e)

——-

About 2009/2010 with Obama

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at March 10, 2023 01:34 PM (SLV5u)

248 @184 Kindltot-LMAO!!! I’m depressing people? As if the news here at AoS is uplifting on a daily basis as our country circles the drain. Nowhere did I imply not voting or giving up. Facing REALITY and basing a strategy on that seems far more intelligent and possibly more productive than treating everything as politics as usual and “hey we’ll beat ‘em at ballot harvesting “.

Posted by: JROD at March 10, 2023 01:34 PM (NuZuD)

249 Whole word learning, because overwhelming parts of the brain that have ZERO business being involved in the act of reading makes perfect sense! If you are a fucking sadist.
Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:31 PM (CXOJw)

A lot of the "new math" level of instruction comes from trying to teach kids the tricks that work if you have the basics, without teaching the basics first.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 10, 2023 01:34 PM (xhaym)

250 You want a hard test, try taking the drivers test

https://youtu.be/39k067hcgYY?t=19

Posted by: Reverend Jim Ignatowski at March 10, 2023 01:35 PM (786Ro)

251 224 Gonna be honest...

Season 3 of Picard is really good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:31 PM (LvTSG)

Really good?
Or 'good by modern Trek standards'?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 10, 2023 01:35 PM (/6ur0)

252 >>>A large majority of HS grads today cannot understand writings in cursive. How do they sign their name to documents?

Tanned, rested and ready.

Posted by: A Scrawled X at March 10, 2023 01:35 PM (CwhoI)

253 Apparently most of you 29 year olds are too young to know who Dr. Allen Bloom is.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 10, 2023 01:35 PM (F4UJc)

254 Ask any parent that's paying attention-Common Core is not educating our children very well. Unfortunately, it seems like this curriculum is here to stay, so parents who want their kids to be actually educated use supplemental materials, tutors older than 60, and lots of extra time at home. (Some of us send our kids to private school to try to get around the govermental non-education.)

Posted by: pookysgirl does NOT take her 10-year-old's word that there's no homework at March 10, 2023 01:35 PM (dtlDP)

255 229 So want to teach chemistry? BS in Chemistry or 20 years working as a chemist. Education degree additionally is optional.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2023 01:28 PM (lc5cP)
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This isn't quite as foolproof as it sounds. I work with a lot of instructors who are subject matter experts in many different areas. However, they are often pretty poor teachers. They have forgotten how they crossed the bridge from "novice" to "expert" so they have difficulty helping students make that same transition.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2023 01:32 PM (YIVH2)

And a lot of people just don't have the aptitude for it(which is not to say our current teachers necessarily do). Being able to express the same lesson in a few different ways is pretty helpful.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2023 01:35 PM (eYoxG)

256 I'm spendin' way too much time on that Jerry Springer

Baby, I've been sleepin' with your sister.
Oh, which one?
All of 'em.
Ah, well, I've been sleepin' with your best friend Jake.
Yeah? W-Well, me too! And, I've been sleepin' with your dog Woofie!
Woofie, you bitch! Well I'm also sleepin' with your pet goat!
That goat doesn't love you!

Once you start watchin', there's just no stoppin'
Your brain shuts down, then your IQ's droppin'
Jerry's the king of confrontation
He's a sensation

Posted by: Weird Al at March 10, 2023 01:35 PM (RHGPo)

257 I don’t get the silent fajita joke.

I'm guessing they usually sizzle when brought to you, drawing unwanted attention.

Posted by: Halfhand at March 10, 2023 01:35 PM (fRfT8)

258 A lot of the "new math" level of instruction comes from trying to teach kids the tricks that work if you have the basics, without teaching the basics first.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 10, 2023 01:34 PM (xhaym)
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Well, drills are boring and so we can't drill students on the basics. It's unfair and they don't like it. School needs to be fun.

Posted by: Teachers at March 10, 2023 01:35 PM (t0OGg)

259 Mrs. Jukin was a supervisor for a woman that had just graduated a University of California with a French major. She wanted to be an "educator" and had written a letter-paper to get into the teaching program. My wife said she would look it over for her. OMG, it was atrocious, terrible grammar. The structure was hideous. It was a rambling word salad that Kamaltoe would have been proud of. She of course got accepted and I assume is now indoctrinating young minds into a lower IQ.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 10, 2023 01:35 PM (17s+e)

260 This isn't quite as foolproof as it sounds. I work with a lot of instructors who are subject matter experts in many different areas

In my job the expectation is I can teach anyone else anything I know well. And...it works.

Yes teaching is a skill, but one that comes natural to human beings and improves by doing. Long before we had formal education people were taught by others that knew the material. There were no specific teachers.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2023 01:36 PM (lc5cP)

261 Maybe some icing or powdered sugar for the crescent rolls.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 10, 2023 01:36 PM (n1JsZ)

262 As if the news here at AoS is uplifting on a daily basis as our country circles the drain. Nowhere did I imply not voting or giving up. Facing REALITY and basing a strategy on that seems far more intelligent and possibly more productive than treating everything as politics as usual and “hey we’ll beat ‘em at ballot harvesting “.
Posted by: JROD at March 10, 2023 01:34 PM (NuZuD)

Good to have multiple plans of attack and contingencies in mind. I think we're both big fans of readiness in all sense of the word.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 10, 2023 01:36 PM (/6ur0)

263 Just like the J6 public defenders, especially Shaman Guy. Buck v. Bell repeats itself.

||Historian Paul A. Lombardo argued in 1985 that Buck was not "feeble-minded" at all, but that she had been put away to hide her rape, perpetrated by the nephew of her adoptive mother.[15] He also asserted that Buck's lawyer, Irving Whitehead, poorly argued her case, failed to call important witnesses, and was remarked by commentators to often not know what side he was on. It is now thought that this was not because of incompetence, but deliberate.[22] Whitehead had close connections to the counsel for the institution and to Priddy. Whitehead was a member of the governing board of the state institution in which Buck resided, had personally authorized Priddy's sterilization requests, and was a strong supporter of eugenic sterilization.[15]||

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 10, 2023 01:36 PM (Vwz3I)

264 251 Really good?
Or 'good by modern Trek standards'?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 10, 2023 01:35 PM (/6ur0)

========

Genuinely good. The new showrunner appears to be an actual fan of Star Trek. It's not just the callbacks (the heavy use of Horner's themes are very welcome), it's that it's using the characters in a new setting and time intelligently.

It also doesn't feel like a show desperately looking around for narrative momentum and excuses to fill 10 hours. At least through the first 3, the story is shockingly tight.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:36 PM (LvTSG)

265 There's a good chance AL will pass school choice legislation this session. One really nice feature of the proposed bill is that it allows parents to roll over any unused portion of their ESA from one year to the next. Parents who keep costs low could have a sizable sum for tech school or college after high school is completed.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 10, 2023 01:37 PM (sWM8x)

266 Speaking of woke ignorance factories, Stanford Law hosted 5th Circuit judge Stuart Duncan. The students drowned out judge Duncan and allowed DEI dean Steinbach to give a prepared speech berating Duncan.

https://bit.ly/3YEd8fD

Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2023 01:37 PM (eyxn4)

267 Season 3 of Picard is really good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:31 PM (LvTSG)
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I unsubed from Dave Cullen last night over this. Even from his positive reviews, I can see that it's less really good than it is "not a double middle finger in your face" each episode.

And to be honest, I don't care at this point. They could crank ot 60 seasons of masterful storytelling in a row, and I wouldn't watch it. Same goes for most TV and movies. Hell, I have a hard time watching older stuff, because I can see the subtle beginnings of Wokism in so much.

More than that, you can see how the '80s and '90s programmed 2 generations of action fans to assume the cop, CIA/FBI Agent, or military are the good guys. Those dudes with a gun can do no wrong. Funny how they all work for the State.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at March 10, 2023 01:37 PM (b306O)

268 Justin Trudeau is one of Klaus Schwab's pets. I doubt his IQ is above average. Maybe he's hoping forcing a vegetarian diet on the world will make him look better IQ wise.

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 10, 2023 01:37 PM (eGTCV)

269 The drop in IQ scores of the yoots certainly has nothing to do with the fact that their "educators" are a bunch of freaks concerned only with promoting homosexuality, Communism, and genital mutilation. We can't be exposing the yoots to *gasp* Bad-Think written by dead White Men(tm).

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 10, 2023 01:37 PM (pJWtt)

270 For anyone who's been following the Silicon Valley Bank story, you can stop. FDIC stepped in today and closed it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 10, 2023 01:38 PM (Bd6X8)

271 I'm fairly certain that Picard would have used Rene Auberjonois as Odo if he were still alive, and it would have worked.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:38 PM (LvTSG)

272 Season 3, at least through episode 3, might be the best Star Trek has been since...the best of TNG?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:34 PM (LvTSG)

Did you watch Strange New Worlds, b/c that was one I did kinda like...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 10, 2023 01:38 PM (exHjb)

273 Question #3:Today's date

Muldoon: "I'm going back to the one about my name."

Posted by: Muldoon at March 10, 2023 01:38 PM (ykeLU)

274 The highest score on the IQ test is 182

Anybody claiming higher must have max out at an early age, which triggers rescaling based on age.

Posted by: Weird Al at March 10, 2023 01:38 PM (RHGPo)

275 Just got my ass chewed by Mrs D for eating the last cherry one.
It was worth it.
Mmmmmm!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:33 PM (anj39)

We visit my mom on Sundays and carry a treat to have w/coffee...I'm convincing my wife to "research" these.

Posted by: BignJames at March 10, 2023 01:38 PM (AwYPR)

276 "This news will provide welcome relief to millions of people who have long wanted to enjoy fajitas without the loud, sizzling presentation.

"I can finally enjoy some fajitas without everyone paying attention to me!" said George Corey. "I tried ordering them once before, but when they brought out that sizzling platter, the entire restaurant stopped what they were doing and just stared at me while the server presented me with my meal and said things like "OOOOOoooohhh!" I was horrified. I lost my appetite for weeks!"

Posted by: Lemme help at March 10, 2023 01:38 PM (DhOHl)

277 Diogenes, has the ASVAB been trending down too? And can you adjust those numbers to yield meaningful inferences?
Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2023 01:33 PM (OTzUX)
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They "tweak" it all the time. It has been years since I've had to deal with the test directly, but I've not heard of any major changes made since, I think, the '90's. What the Services will do is adjust their acceptance scores for a particular MOS.
Interestingly, an Infantry soldier (as of two years ago) has to have a score of 110 (100 is the mean). This is in part due to the complexity of the equipment infantrymen have to deal with...namely on-board computers and aiming systems for the vehicles.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:38 PM (anj39)

278 And they're just idiots and not idiots savants.

Inspector Thomas Brackenreid: I find it hard to believe that such a precise model was built by an imbecile!

Constable George Crabtree: [Trying to be politically correct] Ooooh-sir, uh, I believe such people as Lydia are no longer referred to as "imbecile". It's felt to be demeaning. The correct term nowadays is "moron".

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 10, 2023 01:38 PM (Vwz3I)

279 Hope that doesn’t mean I failed the AOS IQ test.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 10, 2023 01:33 PM (EZaTx)

Xipe Totec has a link the the AoS IQ Test

Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:38 PM (tko4W)

280 272 Season 3, at least through episode 3, might be the best Star Trek has been since...the best of TNG?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:34 PM (LvTSG)

Did you watch Strange New Worlds, b/c that was one I did kinda like...
Posted by: Nova Local at March 10, 2023 01:38 PM (exHjb)

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I got about 3/4 of the way through the first episode and just kind of stopped. I had intention of continuing, but it's been months. I may give it another shot soon.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:39 PM (LvTSG)

281 once again, I'm a trendsetter

Posted by: REDACTED at March 10, 2023 01:39 PM (us2H3)

282
Apparently most of you 29 year olds are too young to know who Dr. Allen Bloom is.
Posted by: BurtTC

I was trying to come up with a Ravelstein joke, but it wasn't working.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 10, 2023 01:39 PM (n+4am)

283 I blame the clot shot

everyone around me has notably gotten stupider, and I would have thought I was imagining it and simply was getting more misandrist in my 29 years of age, but my non-vaxed friends have noticed it too

and to be honest it's extremely unsettling and alarming, because i had thought the human race was already intolerably stupid as it was before the scamdemic

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 10, 2023 01:39 PM (VTu1l)

284 The highest IQ in my high school class was 158
The lowest 98

Posted by: Weird Al at March 10, 2023 01:39 PM (RHGPo)

285 I’m depressing people? As if the news here at AoS is uplifting on a daily basis as our country circles the drain. Nowhere did I imply not voting or giving up. Facing REALITY and basing a strategy on that seems far more intelligent and possibly more productive than treating everything as politics as usual and “hey we’ll beat ‘em at ballot harvesting “.
Posted by: JROD at March 10, 2023 01:34 PM (NuZuD)

Sit on a lump and moan about how everything is doomed and you are still here? You are either looking for sympathy or for someone to convince you that you are wrong.

You could look for some voting rolls clearing movement or group (amazingly there are some) or work with some sensible GOTV . . . Or you could feel superior and tell everyone that they are doomed and stupid to have hope.
Be like the radical atheists on corners by churches screaming at parishioners that their sky-fairy is a lie and they are deluding themselves that God saves sinners and see what it earns you beside smug self satisfaction.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 10, 2023 01:39 PM (xhaym)

286 But as far as dating, I don't know that's there's anything necessarily wrong with the friend zone. FenSpouse and I were friends and then we dated and then we got married. So I knew him as a decent, smart, interesting person before all hot and heavy feelings were involved.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:28 PM (FUVRY)

Different time, Fen. You do not move on an opportunity, being in the zone means you end up watching her go through 4 or 5 other dudes. Now, this is not all women, but typically?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:39 PM (zZu0s)

287 New math:

Sugar Bear has 8 Hos in his stable, each paying him $50 per hour. Two of his hos were pinched for solicitation and one for possession with intent to distribute. How much does Sugar Bear now make per hour?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 10, 2023 01:39 PM (u73oe)

288 224 Gonna be honest...

Season 3 of Picard is really good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:31 PM (LvTSG)

Really good?
Or 'good by modern Trek standards'?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 10, 2023 01:35 PM (/6ur0)
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I watched the StarTrek with Pike and it is just terrible. Evidently it is an all female starfleet where the only men are there to be stupid and indecisive. First two seasons of Picard were steaming pile of dog shit.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 10, 2023 01:39 PM (17s+e)

289 Korn explained this in their masterpiece 'Devolution'.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at March 10, 2023 01:39 PM (l7Kbv)

290 Should this be surprising? When you allow in literal cave dwellers and cannibals, what do you expect?

Posted by: ronalds545 at March 10, 2023 01:40 PM (0R/4L)

291 288 I watched the StarTrek with Pike and it is just terrible. Evidently it is an all female starfleet where the only men are there to be stupid and indecisive. First two seasons of Picard were steaming pile of dog shit.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 10, 2023 01:39 PM (17s+e)

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First season of Picard...at least it wasn't Discovery. Bad, but not Discovery. Never watched the second season.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:40 PM (LvTSG)

292 Did you watch Strange New Worlds, b/c that was one I did kinda like...
Posted by: Nova Local at March 10, 2023 01:38 PM (exHjb)

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I got about 3/4 of the way through the first episode and just kind of stopped. I had intention of continuing, but it's been months. I may give it another shot soon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:39 PM (LvTSG)

I wouldn't say it was better than the original and TNG, but it was the 1st Star Trek in years I found tolerable and even liked for much of it (it's not perfect, but it's like being a beat down Star Wars fan and seeing Andor and saying "FINALLY, something that's back on the right track")...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 10, 2023 01:40 PM (exHjb)

293 Hank Johnson now has a shot at becoming a member of Mensa.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 10, 2023 01:40 PM (E+05M)

294 We visit my mom on Sundays and carry a treat to have w/coffee...I'm convincing my wife to "research" these.
Posted by: BignJames at March 10, 2023 01:38 PM (AwYPR)

Research is good!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:40 PM (anj39)

295 Maybe some icing or powdered sugar for the crescent rolls.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 10, 2023 01:36 PM (n1JsZ)

Got it!

Posted by: BignJames at March 10, 2023 01:41 PM (AwYPR)

296 And I missed Buck's thread but want to laud (naturally) his adoption of my "climate change" angle: the only thing that matters is directly confronting and rejecting and disabling the ruinous "climate change" cult/mass delusion. Every day that it continues it impoverishes, loots, and reduces freedom.

All sorts of elaborate and correct arguments about feasibility and cost and etc merely "give room to destroy" (to borrow a modern notorious phrase).

Mocking the ignorance and cult behavior accomplishes nothing. Wielding the ultimate limp broken wiffle-ball bat of "hypocrisy!" accomplishes less than nothing. Those responses are predictable and very lazy, but a waste of time. And as Buck notes, time is not on the side of sanity here. Literal destruction of real, modern economies and lives is ongoing.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2023 01:41 PM (OTzUX)

297 I got about 3/4 of the way through the first episode and just kind of stopped. I had intention of continuing, but it's been months. I may give it another shot soon.

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Oh its awesome,

theres a part where Pike talks about how the human race once had its own periods of extreme violence and then shows clips of the January 6th rally

oh oh and the part where Stacy Abrams does a cameo as the President of Earth

So stunning, so brave

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 10, 2023 01:41 PM (VTu1l)

298 BabylonBee: Biden Gives ‘Black American Of Courage’ Award To Robert Downey Jr. For Role In 'Tropic Thunder'

Posted by: Weird Al at March 10, 2023 01:41 PM (RHGPo)

299 257 I don’t get the silent fajita joke.

I'm guessing they usually sizzle when brought to you, drawing unwanted attention.
Posted by: Halfhand at March 10, 2023 01:35 PM (fRfT

Chi-Chis. (pronounced Chai- Chais)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:41 PM (zZu0s)

300 New math:

Sugar Bear has 8 Hos in his stable, each paying him $50 per hour. Two of his hos were pinched for solicitation and one for possession with intent to distribute. How much does Sugar Bear now make per hour?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 10, 2023 01:39 PM (u73oe)

Two fiddy

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 10, 2023 01:41 PM (/6ur0)

301 292 I wouldn't say it was better than the original and TNG, but it was the 1st Star Trek in years I found tolerable and even liked for much of it (it's not perfect, but it's like being a beat down Star Wars fan and seeing Andor and saying "FINALLY, something that's back on the right track")...
Posted by: Nova Local at March 10, 2023 01:40 PM (exHjb)

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My meatspace friend who loves Star Trek is gonna be thrilled that he can talk Star Trek with me again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:41 PM (LvTSG)

302 Posted by: A Scrawled X at March 10, 2023 01:35 PM (CwhoI)
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The patriarch of a backward hillbilly family got injured and couldn't the make the annual run into town to purchase supplies. He had to send his boy. He called the boy in, handed him a list and said, "You head on down into town and ask someone where to find the general store. Walk into that store and give the man behind the counter this list. He'll get it together for you, but it will be a day before you can pay him and come on home with the supplies. Next, ask for directions to the Lion Inn. You can stay there for the night. Now, they're real fancy down in town and you'll have to sign a guest book. I know you can't read or write, but that's okay. You just sign with an 'X' and they'll let you stay there."

The boy did it and sure enough, he was asked to sign the guest book. He drew an 'X,' but then thought better of it and drew a second 'X' next to it. The clerk said, "I've seen some of you illiterate hillbillies sign with an 'X' before, but why do you use two?" The boy replied, "Well sir, I don't know you and this is a strange town full of strangers. I thought I oughtn't use my right name."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:41 PM (t0OGg)

303 I wouldn't say it was better than the original and TNG, but it was the 1st Star Trek in years I found tolerable and even liked for much of it (it's not perfect, but it's like being a beat down Star Wars fan and seeing Andor and saying "FINALLY, something that's back on the right track")...
Posted by: Nova Local at March 10, 2023 01:40 PM (exHjb)
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Too little, too late...Never going back to Star Wars or Star Trek, no matter how good someone claims it is.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2023 01:41 PM (YIVH2)

304 Star trek is dead.

I watched an episide of TNG recently and it was...bad.

Not as bad as the current crap but...bad.

Why would I watch that when basically all the TV/movies ever made are at at my fingertips?

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2023 01:42 PM (lc5cP)

305 297 I got about 3/4 of the way through the first episode and just kind of stopped. I had intention of continuing, but it's been months. I may give it another shot soon.

************

Oh its awesome,

theres a part where Pike talks about how the human race once had its own periods of extreme violence and then shows clips of the January 6th rally

oh oh and the part where Stacy Abrams does a cameo as the President of Earth

So stunning, so brave
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 10, 2023 01:41 PM (VTu1l)

See, these were the not great parts

...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 10, 2023 01:42 PM (exHjb)

306 I like playing poker with today's youth.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 10, 2023 01:42 PM (V/Uak)

307 When you allow in literal cave dwellers and cannibals, what do you expect?

BBQ smoke coming out of the caves with a peculiar yet mouth-watering aroma?

Posted by: Armie Hammer, loves to eat at March 10, 2023 01:42 PM (786Ro)

308 303 Too little, too late...Never going back to Star Wars or Star Trek, no matter how good someone claims it is.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2023 01:41 PM (YIVH2)

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That's fair.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:42 PM (LvTSG)

309 Weird that the results of an IQ test would be affected by education.

Posted by: Oglebay at March 10, 2023 01:42 PM (wscPk)

310 Hope that doesn’t mean I failed the AOS IQ test.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

One cannot fail the AoS IQ test, that's the genius of it~!

( The 'joke' is fajitas are famously served table-side on a ripping hot cast-iron plate which make for a sizzling loud display. )

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2023 01:42 PM (jzzG8)

311 Practically every member of Mensa I have ever was an arrogant dick

Posted by: Weird Al at March 10, 2023 01:42 PM (RHGPo)

312 spellcheck, granpa was clearly a high school Principal

Posted by: Kindltot at March 10, 2023 01:42 PM (xhaym)

313 Picard stopped shitting in my mouth!

Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:43 PM (tko4W)

314 I am hearing good things about Season 3 of Picard. Do not quite believe it yet, given the first episode I watched (which was not 'horrible' but not exactly amazing.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:43 PM (zZu0s)

315 "IQ isn't that important and doesn't measure things like emotional intelligence!"
- gender studies major working at a non-profit finding out the Army guy with only a high school diploma has a higher IQ

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 10, 2023 01:43 PM (Yq2iq)

316 I was told there wud be no maffs.

Posted by: Sugar Bear at March 10, 2023 01:43 PM (DhOHl)

317 A good teacher will also gain insights into the subject being taught from the questions that his students ask. He can then incorporate those insights into future lesson plans. Effective teaching is really a two-way street, with both student and teacher gaining wisdom from each other.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 10, 2023 01:43 PM (EZaTx)

318 Speaking of woke ignorance factories, Stanford Law hosted 5th Circuit judge Stuart Duncan. The students drowned out judge Duncan and allowed DEI dean Steinbach to give a prepared speech berating Duncan.

https://bit.ly/3YEd8fD
Posted by: bonhomme at March 10, 2023 01:37 PM (eyxn4)
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If Duncan didn't stand up and walk out, he's an idiot.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:43 PM (t0OGg)

319 Now that my own boys are grown I've tried to volunteer my services for some part time/pro bono tutoring or adjunct education at our local HS and community college, e.g. writing, government, law, communications, debate etc but found the administration entirely unresponsive.

I'm not a rocket surgeon but I've been a practicing trial attorney in a technical field for 30 years, still in active practice, graduated an Ivy law school, wrote a book + a few book chapters in my field, etc. I think I'd have something to offer but I hate feeling like I have to hunt them down.

Posted by: Zek at March 10, 2023 01:43 PM (5FPX4)

320 Picard stopped shitting in my mouth!

Shut up Wesley!

Posted by: Picard pulling his pants back up at March 10, 2023 01:43 PM (lc5cP)

321 Pssssttttt!
Hey Muldoon!
The answer to #4 is "D".

#4. If a train leaves Chicago going east at 40mph, and a second train leaves San Francisco going north at 50 mph, when will they meet?
A: At 6 PM.
B: At 9 M
C: Never because trains never run on time.
D: Green.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:44 PM (anj39)

322 Season 3 of Picard is really good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

Not bad. So far.

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2023 01:44 PM (EeVCB)

323 Women and teen girls who practice contact sports know that guys are stronger. It must be the ones who practice non contact activities or have no experience with contact sports who buy the movies and feminism delusion.

Posted by: Floridachick at March 10, 2023 01:44 PM (k2V7E)

324 309 Weird that the results of an IQ test would be affected by education.
Posted by: Oglebay at March 10, 2023 01:42 PM (wscPk)

Not really. This is an expected result according to the guy who first designed IQ tests.

Tests can only measure outputs. A child raised feral won't compare to a child with civilized rearing. When first conceived of, there was a variety of confounding factors listed compared to a measure of "raw intelligence", such as how urbanized a region was.

IQ rising a few points every decade also makes no sense if it were purely a measure of innate characteristics.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2023 01:44 PM (eYoxG)

325 321 D: Green.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:44 PM (anj39)

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That's the color of oranges!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:44 PM (LvTSG)

326 The highest score on the IQ test is 182

Anybody claiming higher must have max out at an early age, which triggers rescaling based on age.
Posted by: Weird Al at March 10, 2023 01:38 PM (RHGPo)

When they gave us our scores, the teacher gave me mine and said I'm sorry our scale doesn't go any higher. You broke our scale. Everyone clapped.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 10, 2023 01:44 PM (F4UJc)

327 Diogenes, thanks. I was just wondering whether there were any fairly stable yardstick, over time, to do apple/apple comparisons on scores. Sounds like the ASVAB has been changed enough that it might not fit that bill.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2023 01:44 PM (OTzUX)

328 Sugar Bear has 8 Hos in his stable, each paying him $50 per hour. Two of his hos were pinched for solicitation and one for possession with intent to distribute. How much does Sugar Bear now make per hour?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 10, 2023 01:39 PM (u73oe)
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$400. The give remaining hos have to make up the difference or they'll get acquainted with Sugar Bear's pimp hand.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:44 PM (t0OGg)

329 311 Practically every member of Mensa I have ever was an arrogant dick
Posted by: Weird Al at March 10, 2023 01:42 PM (RHGPo)

Well yeah...they joined MENSA. They want to rub their balls in your face, but they don't have balls so they're rubbing their Mensa card in your face instead.

Geniuses with humility don't join groups to 'prove' how smart they are.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at March 10, 2023 01:45 PM (/6ur0)

330 I had to take 1 class at DE State University.

Application fee, administration fee, library fee, parking fee, student center fee, multicultural center student fee, facilities fee. All more than the class tuition.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 10, 2023 01:45 PM (TXtUO)

331 328 Sugar Bear has 8 Hos in his stable, each paying him $50 per hour. Two of his hos were pinched for solicitation and one for possession with intent to distribute. How much does Sugar Bear now make per hour?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 10, 2023 01:39 PM (u73oe)
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$400. The give remaining hos have to make up the difference or they'll get acquainted with Sugar Bear's pimp hand.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:44 PM (t0OGg)

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Not enough information to answer. I need to know who the bottom bitch is.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:45 PM (LvTSG)

332 LaCreesha knocked out 2/3 of the polar bears downtown. How many crackers did LaCreesha knock the fuck out?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 10, 2023 01:45 PM (CZBWZ)

333 303 Too little, too late...Never going back to Star Wars or Star Trek, no matter how good someone claims it is.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2023 01:41 PM (YIVH2)

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That's fair.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:42 PM (LvTSG)
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That's pretty much my attitude towards ANY IPs that are still in development such as Doctor Who, Lord of the Rings, Babylon 5, etc.

Just stop already and create something NEW and GOOD! Stop trying to get blood out of the stone of the past.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2023 01:45 PM (YIVH2)

334 Is Mensa really a thing? I thought it was a made up thing in movies.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 10, 2023 01:46 PM (TXtUO)

335 It's probably because the researchers are defining intelligence according to white standards like competence, logical reasoning, etc

Posted by: NJ Class Traitor at March 10, 2023 01:46 PM (+aI/4)

336 The nice thing Im hearing about Picard Season 3 is that its touted as an awesome sendoff.

As in, if you wanted the best closure you could get with star trek (especially TNG) and move on with your life, content to never watch another Star trek related show or film again, this would be it

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 10, 2023 01:46 PM (VTu1l)

337 When they gave us our scores, the teacher gave me mine and said I'm sorry our scale doesn't go any higher. You broke our scale. Everyone clapped.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 10, 2023 01:44 PM (F4UJc)

That commenter?

Albert Einstein.

Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:46 PM (tko4W)

338 323

Oops
Wrong thread

Posted by: Floridachick at March 10, 2023 01:46 PM (k2V7E)

339 I can honestly say that I attended an HBCU, though.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 10, 2023 01:46 PM (TXtUO)

340 Application fee, administration fee, library fee, parking fee, student center fee, multicultural center student fee, facilities fee. All more than the class tuition.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 10, 2023 01:45 PM (TXtUO)
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Students where I work have to pay "engineering" and "lab" fees, but no one seems to know exactly where that money goes because many of the labs are in pretty poor shape.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2023 01:47 PM (YIVH2)

341 I call shenanigans. I seem to recall a whole slew of window licking, mouth breathing, short bus types ingesting Tide Pods way back in 2012 or 2013.

This didn't just start happening. I stand by me previous edict that over half of the US population is functionally retarded...

Posted by: Orson at March 10, 2023 01:47 PM (h8Y3i)

342 Practically every member of Mensa I have ever was an arrogant dick
Posted by: Weird Al at March 10, 2023 01:42 PM (RHGPo)

That's because their committing the Sin of Vainglory when they tell you how smart they are 'cause they're in Mensa. Humility is a virtue.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 10, 2023 01:47 PM (pJWtt)

343 Posted by: Floridachick

Must be new here.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 10, 2023 01:47 PM (TXtUO)

344 333 That's pretty much my attitude towards ANY IPs that are still in development such as Doctor Who, Lord of the Rings, Babylon 5, etc.

Just stop already and create something NEW and GOOD! Stop trying to get blood out of the stone of the past.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2023 01:45 PM (YIVH2)

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I think I'm in a slightly different situation. I'm suffused with NEWS of the IPs being regurgitated all the time, but I take in precious little of it. My media watching is, by design, a very different bent. So, finding out that there's new Star Trek that I can enjoy? Well, I haven't watched Star Trek in literally years. I'm okay with finding it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:47 PM (LvTSG)

345 334 Is Mensa really a thing? I thought it was a made up thing in movies.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 10, 2023 01:46 PM (TXtUO)

I always figured it was a way for geeky, asocial guys who wanted to get laid to meet geeky, asocial women.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:47 PM (zZu0s)

346 Just stop already and create something NEW and GOOD! Stop trying to get blood out of the stone of the past.

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But they need to bring back these IPs in order to

UPDATE THEM FOR A MODERN AUDIENCE

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 10, 2023 01:47 PM (VTu1l)

347 bonhomme, I'm too horrified to even look at your link.

Another very serious problem (as if there aren't enough): a bow wave of idiocy from law schools. Not the long-standing, already pretty damaging kind (driven by the over-legalization of everything, and the liability shake-down industry, and the excess litigation industry).

But law schools as incubators of batshit racist authoritarian derangement.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2023 01:47 PM (OTzUX)

348 Tests can only measure outputs. A child raised feral won't compare to a child with civilized rearing
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What's the point of a child with civilized rearing?

Posted by: Pete Bootigieg at March 10, 2023 01:47 PM (tko4W)

349 NYTimes: Videos of people who claim that their medication is no longer effective have recently catapulted through TikTok. In one, someone clutches a prescription bottle, rattling the pills as she shakes her fist. “They’re giving us ‘fake’ Adderall during the shortage,” the caption reads. “The adderall isn’t adderalling,” another user claims in a video.

Some people urge their viewers to submit complaints to the Food and Drug Administration about what they believe is a “new” Adderall being distributed and to call for the agency to run lab tests of the medication. Videos related to the phrase “adhd meds not working” have been viewed more than 15 million times on TikTok.

Posted by: Weird Al at March 10, 2023 01:48 PM (RHGPo)

350 Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:39 PM (zZu0s)

I think he's just at the point now where he goes to class, goes back and works on his studies, go for meals, runs around the campus for exercise and goes to the Plant Breeding Group and the Prayer Group. I don't even think he's at the stage where he thinks, "Well, I didn't make my move on that girl yet yet" but I'm sure you could be a good dating coach if he ever says "I'd like to ask that girl out."

And I'm very glad I grew up in another age and feel sorry for young people now for many reasons.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:48 PM (FUVRY)

351 I remember many years ago recommending Allan Bloom's "The Closing of the American Mind" to a university professor. He had never heard of it, so I began to describe its premise and purpose. Well now, and here we are.

Posted by: mrp at March 10, 2023 01:48 PM (rj6Yv)

352 338 323

Oops
Wrong thread
Posted by: Floridachick at March 10, 2023 01:46 PM (k2V7E)

That's fine, we don't mind.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:48 PM (zZu0s)

353 The result is from basing educational results on equality rather than merit.

Posted by: Archer at March 10, 2023 01:48 PM (gmo/4)

354 Thanks for the explanations of the silent fajita joke.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 10, 2023 01:48 PM (EZaTx)

355 The Mensa Society was often seen as an award or honor that would embellish your credentials. And I've know members who were tougher then the average bear.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 10, 2023 01:48 PM (J47y1)

356 Everytime a girl starts hitting me, i presume it is foreplay.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 10, 2023 01:49 PM (V/Uak)

357 MENSA needs to practice inclusivity and admit low IQ individuals.

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2023 01:49 PM (EeVCB)

358
This didn't just start happening. I stand by me previous edict that over half of the US population is functionally retarded...

Pew has a study out that half of young leftist women have been diagnosed with mental illness. And 30% of liberal young men

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2023 01:49 PM (lc5cP)

359 Posted by: Floridachick

Must be new here.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 10, 2023 01:47 PM (TXtUO)

Ha. That is to say there's no such thing as a wrong thread unless it's CBD or Other

Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:49 PM (tko4W)

360 The highest score on the IQ test is 182

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Interesting, my score was 181

But I read the test results upside down so i really have no idea what my score was

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 10, 2023 01:49 PM (VTu1l)

361 Posted by: BurtTC at March 10, 2023 01:44 PM (F4UJc)

That commenter?

Albert Einstein.
Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:46 PM (tko4W)

No no no! Einstein was one of those clapping. We used to call him Al.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 10, 2023 01:49 PM (F4UJc)

362 Diogenes, thanks. I was just wondering whether there were any fairly stable yardstick, over time, to do apple/apple comparisons on scores. Sounds like the ASVAB has been changed enough that it might not fit that bill.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 10, 2023 01:44 PM (OTzUX)

It may boil down to a time frame. Up to about 1990, the educators I spoke with who used the ASVAB loved it. Back then, it was essentially 50 years of data that could be analyzed to individual zip codes (and hence school districts) and were a remarkably accurate of a candidate's abilities. Always exceptions of course, but generally accurate. Not sure if you can compare scores from say, 1985 to 2015 though.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:49 PM (anj39)

363 Practically every member of Mensa I have ever was an arrogant dick
Posted by: Weird Al

I think that is a requirement. I was invited to join as a high schooler, but even at that age I knew better.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 10, 2023 01:50 PM (lTGtQ)

364 Everytime a girl starts hitting me, i presume it is foreplay

You leave now you been here four hour!

Posted by: The young woman running teh chinese buffett hitting you at March 10, 2023 01:50 PM (lc5cP)

365 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:48 PM (FUVRY)

I am good at figuring out how people and systems work. I have always been good at helping people with THEIR relationships. That all goes out the window when I am attracted to a gal. Then I become a drooling, stupid moron.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:50 PM (zZu0s)

366 I got about 3/4 of the way through the first episode and just kind of stopped. I had intention of continuing, but it's been months. I may give it another shot soon.

As is typical, the first few episodes of SNW aren't great (and the very first one has the passing "Trump was Earth's worst villain" reference) but it rapidly improved after that.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 10, 2023 01:51 PM (ZGrMX)

367 Is Mensa really a thing? I thought it was a made up thing in movies.

Papa Basura was a Mensa member. I never took their entrance exam, having scored 0 on the school district administered tests.

Also, "mensa" is a Mexican Spanish slang term meaning, approximately, "stupid."

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 10, 2023 01:51 PM (Bd6X8)

368 Students where I work have to pay "engineering" and "lab" fees, but no one seems to know exactly where that money goes because many of the labs are in pretty poor shape.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 10, 2023 01:47 PM (YIVH2)

I assume right into the General Fund and from there into various "administrators" pockets. It's not like your typical "institute of higher learning (tm)" is familiar with fiscal responsibility. Spend the money faster than it comes in, then the State has to step in. Something like that happened at Wright State University a few years ago.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 10, 2023 01:52 PM (pJWtt)

369 You can be comforted in the fact 50 percent of Americans are dumber than the average IQ.

Fifty.

Percent.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 10, 2023 01:52 PM (lf83v)

370 My grandfather used to play chess with Einstein. Was he any good? Only in theory.

Posted by: No, really at March 10, 2023 01:52 PM (DhOHl)

371 You know what we need to do with low IQ Americans?

Have the states sell them marijuana.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 10, 2023 01:52 PM (lf83v)

372 Oh shit, it appear that Sugar Bear has just been accidentally shot by Claudine Longet!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 10, 2023 01:52 PM (u73oe)

373 It’s PE time at Piper’s School for Cute Kiddos. We, being creative, are going for a run again!

Posted by: Piper at March 10, 2023 01:53 PM (ZdaMQ)

374 The students drowned out judge Duncan and allowed DEI dean Steinbach to give a prepared speech berating Duncan.

https://bit.ly/3YEd8fD
Posted by: bonhomme
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If Duncan didn't stand up and walk out, he's an idiot.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

It sounds like he failed the first rule of public debate: Know thy audience. Walking out signals defeat. Among other things, he could have held up a sign with something like, "Your ignorance is a choice"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2023 01:53 PM (jzzG8)

375 I am good at figuring out how people and systems work. I have always been good at helping people with THEIR relationships. That all goes out the window when I am attracted to a gal. Then I become a drooling, stupid moron.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:50 PM (zZu0s)

Cobbler's shoes and all that

Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:53 PM (tko4W)

376 Biden, cause or effect?

Posted by: Dave at March 10, 2023 01:53 PM (nLwaa)

377 IQ is dropping the world over as are Testosterone levels. Are the two things related?

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Stupid and sterile. The WEF agenda.

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 10, 2023 01:53 PM (sVtYq)

378 @285 Kindltot-Sympathy for what? I’m merely mocking the idiocy of the Trump DeSantis bullshit that flares like a case of hemorrhoids here on occasion.
I have done all that you have listed and then some including being spat at and threatened by leftists at protests. Hope? More like peddling false hope. Elections were stolen. Did you actually catch that or did you miss it? GOTV ain’t gonna do a fucking thing. It’s who counts the votes. The left has proven that more than once now. As I said, REALITY. Let’s operate on that no matter how much pointing it out sounds like whining or boo-hoo depressing people. Why don’t you explain how the Republican nominee whomever it might be is going to win in 24? I’m not the only one here that believes it’s a false prize. Maybe you can enlighten us.

Posted by: JROD at March 10, 2023 01:53 PM (NuZuD)

379 Jane Fonda literally suggests MURDERING pro-life politicians during an appearance on "The View." Joy Behar says she was only joking.

https://bit.ly/3mKDX4i

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What a kidder!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at March 10, 2023 01:53 PM (FVME7)

380 365
I am good at figuring out how people and systems work. I have always been good at helping people with THEIR relationships. That all goes out the window when I am attracted to a gal. Then I become a drooling, stupid moron.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:50 PM (zZu0s)

Being impartial makes it a lot easier to make judgement calls.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2023 01:54 PM (eYoxG)

381 Jane Fonda literally suggests MURDERING pro-life politicians during an appearance on "The View." Joy Behar says she was only joking.

Fonda's still alive? That's too bad.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 10, 2023 01:54 PM (ZGrMX)

382 I used to date a girl who would mensa every 28 days. Like clockwork.

Posted by: Beavis wannabe at March 10, 2023 01:54 PM (DhOHl)

383 That all goes out the window when I am attracted to a gal. Then I become a drooling, stupid moron.

Being around an attractive woman can literally make a man stupid - it has effects similiar to intoxication.

The answer? Keep doing it until you get it under control. And yes this IS the trusted Irish method of learning to hold your liquor.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 10, 2023 01:54 PM (lc5cP)

384 Interesting, my score was 181
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ITS FUNNY BECAUSE THAT MEANS YOU HAVE AN IQ OF 181 AND QI OF 181.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at March 10, 2023 01:55 PM (lf83v)

385 Just watching the daily news tells you that humans are getting dumber. You do not need a test ....

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at March 10, 2023 01:55 PM (snpvX)

386 Does Jane Fonda realize that when her saggy carcass croaks, her gravesite is going to remain rather...wet?

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 10, 2023 01:55 PM (sVtYq)

387 Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:50 PM (zZu0s)

I can't imagine you as ever being a drooling, stupid moron.

But as I've said before I think Ace needs to set up a dating site on here and charge a fee (I know he's heaving rolling his eyes now.

but people have developed relationships though being on here. I do think it makes it hard, though, that the age of most participants skews 40 and above.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:55 PM (FUVRY)

388 Isn't 181 upside down 69??

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (Vwz3I)

389 It's been 30 days since Matt Schlapp grabbed another mans junk

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (E+05M)

390 Does Mensa have meetings? Do they drink only craft beer or snooty wines?

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (eGTCV)

391 Idiocracy

Posted by: avi at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (cBCwV)

392 Our brains work 24 hours a day 365 days a year until we fall in love.

Posted by: Itz Sighentz at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (DhOHl)

393 It sounds like he failed the first rule of public debate: Know thy audience. Walking out signals defeat. Among other things, he could have held up a sign with something like, "Your ignorance is a choice"
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2023 01:53 PM (jzzG

++++
Stand up. Shout, "I came here to give an address, not be berated by mental midgets. Fuck y'all." Then walk out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (t0OGg)

394 Being impartial makes it a lot easier to make judgement calls.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2023 01:54 PM (eYoxG)

This.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (zZu0s)

395 Exactly who is dateable on AOS?

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (FndDK)

396 Xi Jinping formally reappointed as the nation's president for a third 5-year term.

The vote for Xi in the National People's Congress was 2,952 to 0.

He is so popular. Must be his charisma. Lol

Posted by: SMOD at March 10, 2023 01:57 PM (RHGPo)

397 Read The Bell Curve. Almost all the gain in the first half of 20th century was as a result of improvement at the extreme low end. The number of 60-70 IQ measurements for people that received no education at all declined drastically. This moved the average up, but the median IQ was not moving much at all.

The future is screwed because intelligence is highly hereditary, and our dumbest women have more children than our smartest women. Education cannot make up for bad genes.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024 at March 10, 2023 01:57 PM (vN+oL)

398 381 Jane Fonda literally suggests MURDERING pro-life politicians during an appearance on "The View." Joy Behar says she was only joking.

That seems to prove the point of those who believe the left is a death cult--their solution to everything is murder.

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 10, 2023 01:57 PM (eGTCV)

399 395 Exactly who is dateable on AOS?
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (FndDK)

When has being dateable ever been an impediment?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:58 PM (zZu0s)

400 396 Xi Jinping formally reappointed as the nation's president for a third 5-year term.

The vote for Xi in the National People's Congress was 2,952 to 0.

He is so popular. Must be his charisma. Lol
Posted by: SMOD at March 10, 2023 01:57 PM (RHGPo)

Who wouldn't vote for Winnie the Pooh?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2023 01:58 PM (eYoxG)

401 Exactly who is dateable on AOS?
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (FndDK)

There's someone for everybody

Posted by: Toaster Fucker at March 10, 2023 01:58 PM (i0Kzs)

402 395 Exactly who is dateable on AOS?
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (FndDK)

As in carbon dating?

Posted by: N. Lurker at March 10, 2023 01:58 PM (eGTCV)

403 Exactly who is dateable on AOS?
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (FndDK)

I don't know what your criteria is, but there are certainly single people on here.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:58 PM (FUVRY)

404 "Overall declines held true across age groups after controlling for educational attainment and gender"

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Wait, gender? The feminists aren't going to like that.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 10, 2023 01:58 PM (UuD2k)

405 402 395 Exactly who is dateable on AOS?
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (FndDK)

As in carbon dating?
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Snort.

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 10, 2023 01:59 PM (FndDK)

406 Stand up. Shout, "I came here to give an address, not be berated by mental midgets. Fuck y'all." Then walk out.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (t0OGg)

And give the other guy a nazi salute on the way out.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 01:59 PM (anj39)

407 To be fair, for the most part, AOS is the definition of a sausage party.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 01:59 PM (zZu0s)

408 Yeah, sonwe gotvthis:

"Silicon Valley Bank's Manhattan branch calls COPS on investors trying to pull their cash out as Boston tech CEO with $10M in bank describes 'worst 18 hours of my life': Lender is SEIZED by regulators in largest US bank failure since Great Recession"

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2023 01:59 PM (EeVCB)

409 Nowhere did I imply not voting or giving up.

Posted by: JROD at March 10, 2023 01:34 PM (NuZuD)

For the record I wouldn't give a shit if you did. It is a perfectly valid position that should not require further justification or explanation.

Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 01:59 PM (tko4W)

410 Exactly who is dateable on AOS?
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (FndDK)

As in carbon dating?
Posted by: N. Lurker

Not Vic. Vic predates carbon.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2023 01:59 PM (G8h7g)

411 Oh, folks. I need to go before I make it to the Wall of Shame for the week..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2023 01:59 PM (FUVRY)

412 Exactly who is dateable on AOS?
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (FndDK)
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Says the hash "Find Dick"!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 10, 2023 01:59 PM (Vwz3I)

413 Hard times make strong men.
Strong men make easy times.
Easy times make weak men.
Weak men make hard times.

Posted by: Lords of the Copybook at March 10, 2023 01:59 PM (5FPX4)

414 My meatspace friend who loves Star Trek is gonna be thrilled that he can talk Star Trek with me again.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at March 10, 2023 01:41 PM (LvTSG)

I don't give a shit about Star Trek. TOS was fun. It's over and done with now. TV blows goats.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 10, 2023 01:59 PM (tkR6S)

415 Lol SO WE GOT THIS ...

Posted by: runner at March 10, 2023 01:59 PM (EeVCB)

416 I think I have pretty good spatial awareness. Things like volume, distance, area, speed, height, direction, etc. I can estimate with usable accuracy. No IQ necessary I'd guess.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 10, 2023 02:00 PM (Q4IgG)

417 Why would you want to go on dates? Dating is awful.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 10, 2023 02:00 PM (UuD2k)

418 but there are certainly single people on here

***********

thats because theyre constantly getting singled out

*rimshot*

thank you thank you Ill be here all week

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 10, 2023 02:00 PM (VTu1l)

419 . “They’re giving us ‘fake’ Adderall during the shortage,” the caption reads. “The adderall isn’t adderalling,” another user claims in a video.

Interesting. My son's pharmacy ran out and we had to fill at a different one. The pills were slightly different capsules, and that entire month it seemed like he was unmedicated.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 10, 2023 02:00 PM (TXtUO)

420 Why would you want to go on dates? Dating is awful.

The feds look poorly on wife kidnapping?

Posted by: Some Mongol at March 10, 2023 02:00 PM (lc5cP)

421 A lot of us here on AoS date ourselves on a daily basis.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at March 10, 2023 02:00 PM (EZaTx)

422 I want to thank God I was born in the 1950's and attended 1960's and 1970's when public schools were still good. How do you survive today with Biden (Feces) for Brains ????

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at March 10, 2023 02:00 PM (snpvX)

423 A recent study suggests that, for the first time in nearly 100 years, Americans' average intelligence quotient (IQ) is declining.

60 years ago, a new car manual taught you how to set the points and gap plugs.

Now? New car manuals caution you to not drink the battery acid.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2023 02:00 PM (G8h7g)

424 To be fair, for the most part, AOS is the definition of a sausage party.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop
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How YOU doin'?

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 10, 2023 02:00 PM (Vwz3I)

425 Posted by: Pudinhead at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (FndDK)
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Says the hash "Find Dick"!
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at March 10, 2023 01:59 PM (Vwz3I)

Says the hash that says 'View Zel!'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 02:01 PM (zZu0s)

426 My grandfather used to play chess with Einstein. Was he any good? Only in theory.
Posted by: No, really at March 10, 2023 01:52 PM (DhOHl)

Real true story from my days as a beat cop: I was in a house (I don't remember why) in rather poor, rural area and see a photo of Albert Einstein seated on a park bench with another elderly man. What was interesting about the photo was that Einstein was holding a baby in his lap. The photo seemed to be from about the 1940s. I ask what's the connection to the photo, and the guy says, "The baby's my grandfather and that's my great-grandfather [dude sitting next to Einstein]."

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 10, 2023 02:01 PM (pJWtt)

427 My dad died in 1991 but let me tell you he hated Jane Fonda more than a person could rightfully ever hate another person. The fucking Redgraves too.

A truly great man.

Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 02:01 PM (tko4W)

428 416 I think I have pretty good spatial awareness. Things like volume, distance, area, speed, height, direction, etc. I can estimate with usable accuracy. No IQ necessary I'd guess.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 10, 2023 02:00 PM (Q4IgG)

Some IQ tests rely more heavily on spatial reasoning. Others don't.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2023 02:01 PM (eYoxG)

429 Not Vic. Vic predates carbon.

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well, what purple haired woke karen wouldnt want a dude who emits no carbon?

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 10, 2023 02:01 PM (VTu1l)

430 Dateable?

https://youtu.be/OBH7CMrmmgI

Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld sketch at March 10, 2023 02:01 PM (DhOHl)

431 For a while, it was a meme about how smart people are able to answer questions about an object "if it were rotated".

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 10, 2023 02:02 PM (44ww/)

432 nood

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 10, 2023 02:02 PM (VTu1l)

433 Now? New car manuals caution you to not drink the battery acid.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2023 02:00 PM (G8h7g)

What do you mean? That's the under hood beverage dispenser.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 10, 2023 02:02 PM (UuD2k)

434 @TheBabylonBee 27s
Chili’s Introduces New Silent Fajitas For Introverts

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2023 01:24 PM (jzzG

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There's a limerick in there somewhere, perhaps involving a banana named Chiquita?

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 10, 2023 02:02 PM (BnoVh)

435 Xi would be called Eleven in Ancient Rome.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 10, 2023 02:03 PM (lf83v)

436 Watching man-on-the-street questions about regular, everyday things and getting blank stares is pretty depressing.

How many branches of government?
How many continents?
How many days a year?
Who is the Vice President?

Yikes. We're fooked.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 10, 2023 02:03 PM (DcKNO)

437 431 For a while, it was a meme about how smart people are able to answer questions about an object "if it were rotated".
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 10, 2023 02:02 PM (44ww/)

That's a pretty decent one since people usually won't train for it.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 10, 2023 02:03 PM (eYoxG)

438 5 years from now anyone with an IQ score of 90 will be considered a genius.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 10, 2023 02:04 PM (NpAcC)

439 Question 5:
If the round pastry with a hole in it is a donut, and the empty space is called the donut hole, what do they call the pastry taken from the center?

Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 02:04 PM (anj39)

440 well, what purple haired woke karen wouldnt want a dude who emits no carbon?
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Longing to Lie in Zooey Deschanel's Bosom for Comfort at March 10, 2023 02:01 PM (VTu1l)

The one that jacksoff dead people.

Posted by: Toaster Fucker at March 10, 2023 02:04 PM (i0Kzs)

441 Heard an ad the other day for a "cocktail dispenser" so you could get a "classic cocktail" without all that rememberin', measurin' and figgerin' out. Jesus.

Posted by: Zek at March 10, 2023 02:04 PM (5FPX4)

442 Is Mensa really a thing? I thought it was a made up thing in movies.

My late brother was a member. He said the meetings he went to, were basically orgies.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at March 10, 2023 02:04 PM (CecP5)

443 Watching man-on-the-street questions about regular, everyday things and getting blank stares is pretty depressing.

How many branches of government?
How many continents?
How many days a year?
Who is the Vice President?

Yikes. We're fooked.
Posted by: Seems Legit
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Even more frightening are the actual Vice President's responses to some of these questions.

Posted by: screaming in digital at March 10, 2023 02:04 PM (aBJcM)

444 I don't give a shit about Star Trek. TOS was fun. It's over and done with now. TV blows goats.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

nuTrek is evil, yes. But DurpSpace 9 was actually decent. The show runners hit the ground running because they had all of the practice on TNG. I only watched a couple of episodes during the first run but watched the rest recently and was surprised. ( yes, all of the alien 'culture' episodes are drek and should be skipped. )

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 10, 2023 02:04 PM (jzzG8)

445 401 Exactly who is dateable on AOS?

A lid for every pot.

Posted by: So they say at March 10, 2023 02:04 PM (DhOHl)

446 Now? New car manuals caution you to not drink the battery acid.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2023 02:00 PM (G8h7g)

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And in California, they are required to inform you that doing so might cause cancer.

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at March 10, 2023 02:05 PM (BnoVh)

447 Question 5:
If the round pastry with a hole in it is a donut, and the empty space is called the donut hole, what do they call the pastry taken from the center?
Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 02:04 PM (anj39)

Munchkin.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 10, 2023 02:05 PM (i0Kzs)

448 I cannot believe cursive is not taught in the school I pay taxes to fund.

What a disastrous idea. Graduating an illiterate deliberately.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 10, 2023 02:05 PM (KATBx)

449 If the round pastry with a hole in it is a donut, and the empty space is called the donut hole, what do they call the pastry taken from the center?

Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 02:04 PM (anj39)

The hole donut

Posted by: ... at March 10, 2023 02:05 PM (tko4W)

450 I blame social media.

Posted by: wth at March 10, 2023 02:06 PM (v0R5T)

451 Heard an ad the other day for a "cocktail dispenser" so you could get a "classic cocktail" without all that rememberin', measurin' and figgerin' out. Jesus.
Posted by: Zek at March 10, 2023 02:04 PM (5FPX4)

The mixing is half of the fun of a cocktail. Otherwise, just pour your liquor neat and call it a day.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 10, 2023 02:07 PM (pJWtt)

452 Exactly who is dateable on AOS?
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM

*looks at social life*

Ummm....pass.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 10, 2023 02:07 PM (h6/n7)

453 448 I cannot believe cursive is not taught in the school I pay taxes to fund.

What a disastrous idea. Graduating an illiterate deliberately.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 10, 2023 02:05 PM (KATBx)

I was thinking about cursive the other day after I saw a bumper sticker that had cursive on it. It really is a style for actual liquid ink and a quill like nib. It makes less sense these days.

I just trying writing out a sentence in cursive and my penmanship is truly horrible these days. Tried to make it too small and tight- which was always my problem with penmanship.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 10, 2023 02:08 PM (zZu0s)

454 Question 5:
If the round pastry with a hole in it is a donut, and the empty space is called the donut hole, what do they call the pastry taken from the center?
Posted by: Diogenes at March 10, 2023 02:04 PM

Munchkins. Timbits to our friends in Cannuckistan.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 10, 2023 02:09 PM (h6/n7)

455 Watching man-on-the-street questions about regular, everyday things and getting blank stares is pretty depressing.

Those are trick situations. Most people aren't used to being on camera. Adrenaline effects them, and they can't think. Try to solve a simple equation with a hungry leopard sitting in the seat next to you, and you'll understand that your ability to think disappears when adrenaline hits your blood stream.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at March 10, 2023 02:11 PM (CecP5)

456 Stand up. Shout, "I came here to give an address, not be berated by mental midgets. Fuck y'all." Then walk out.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM (t0OGg)

Pull a gun, shoot the lead rabble-rouser, and tell the remainder, "you want to listen, or try to shout me down? Your choice."

Posted by: One can dream, eh. at March 10, 2023 02:12 PM (tkR6S)

457 Sad, yet unsurprising nowadays.

https://tinyurl.com/5d489jxp

Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 10, 2023 02:13 PM (Tqu2U)

458 Sad, yet unsurprising nowadays.

https://tinyurl.com/5d489jxp
Posted by: SMH at living in a Romans 1 world at March 10, 2023 02:13 PM (Tqu2U)

Yeesh. My wife knows how to change a tire, but there's no way I would expect her to, especially when I am there. She once got a flat but couldn't loosen the lugs, so I drove over and helped. And yes, the lugs were tight as hell. I had to stand on the wrench to pop one of them.

That dude is pathetic.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at March 10, 2023 02:25 PM (xPJvm)

459
Exactly who is dateable on AOS?

Posted by: Pudinhead at March 10, 2023 01:56 PM

shyly raises hand...

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 10, 2023 02:25 PM (ENBF0)

460 Amazing how many people here confuse IQ score which is 80% genetic with education. Is that a genuine confusion, or a purposeful self delusion to avoid an uncomfortable truth?

Posted by: Anabolic State at March 10, 2023 02:30 PM (EG6tK)

461 Education can't make up for bad genes? Explain Dr. Ben Carson.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 10, 2023 02:30 PM (6lj/r)

462 These guys are ahead of the curve.

https://tinyurl.com/3zh3cp4y

Posted by: Javems at March 10, 2023 02:51 PM (AmoqO)

463 They don't want anyone to catch onto the coming NWO all under the UN/Globalists

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at March 10, 2023 04:17 PM (wGqjj)

464 Yeah. Americans. Right.

Posted by: ccoffer at March 10, 2023 06:14 PM (4pX7i)

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