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"The Bitch Woman With Her Own Agency Is Dead Napping With Gaia:" Report Claims That Publisher Is Bowlderizing James Bond Novels, Removing Incidents of Supposed "Racism," "Misogyny"

That's like half the reason I read them.


The only good news is that supposedly these editions will be published in parallel to the real Fleming books, and will not replace them.

For now.


A series of new editions of James Bond novels set to be released in April will be edited from author Ian Fleming's original prose and feature a disclaimer after a review by "sensitivity readers."

The new editions will commemorate the 70th anniversary of the publication of Fleming's first Bond novel, which introduced the famed English spy to the masses prior to the launch of an ever-expanding film franchise. But language present in the original 1953 text, including the n-word and other terms and phrases describing race are being removed, according to a report from the Telegraph.

The new books will also include a disclaimer that explains the new editions are not identical to those published previously.

"This book was written at a time when terms and attitudes which might be considered offensive by modern readers were commonplace," the disclaimer will read, according to the Telegraph report. "A number of updates have been made in this edition, while keeping as close as possible to the original text and the period in which it is set."

The most notable change is the removal of the n-word, which is primarily being replaced with "black person" or "black man." But other racial descriptions are reportedly being eliminated entirely. The report said that some of the changes were previously made during Fleming's lifetime with his approval, especially for U.S. editions of the books.

I don't remember that word being in any of his books. Maybe that was already changed in US editions. If it had been used, it would have certainly been used by an unsympathetic character, not by a "good guy" character.

Bond has a lot of opinions on other nationalities/races. Those races/countries that are Britain's recent enemies -- Germany -- or its current ones -- Russia, China -- Bond doesn't think too highly of, and sometimes comments about the negative characteristics shared generally by people of those counties.

Oddly, Bond has a rather poor opinion of Americans, too. This might be about Britain's rawness at being eclipsed in the empire game. It might be snobbishness. It might just be about him thinking Americans are boorish stupid prats.

Anyway, will this new publisher be correcting Bond's interior monologue sing the praises of Germans, Russians, Chinese, and Americans?

The only book where there's some "racism" that is actually bothersome is Live and Let Die, and that's a mix of racial condescension, where Fleming has M praise American "Negroes" so much in the briefing it sounds like paternalistic overcompensation, and then he renders all black patois phonetically, so it's all "sho 'nuff suh, Uh'll get yo' yo' bags quicksmart an' you kin count ahn tha'!" If that sentence was hard to get through and cringey, imagine literal pages and pages and pages of this.

I don't know. Fleming's book are travelogues with murder, so I think he basically did just travel to the American south and these are basically his notes about what he saw and heard. I think this is his best effort to represent the southern black drawl accurately and present it, not to demean it, but to give readers a You Are There tour, to let them live the moment as if they are on vacation, I mean, on a mission with Bond.

It's cringey, yes, and even ignoring the racial aspects of it, no one represents speech phonetically like this any longer because it's so annoying to hard and just considered amateurish and "of another time." Editors suggest just using word choice/localisms and word order/sentence construction to suggest the flavor of the local patois. Maybe with the occasional rare phonetically-rendered word.

But Fleming was writing in "another time."

The one very charged racial element of Live and Let Die is the same one from the movie: A white woman being "kept" by a powerful black man who intends to sexually use her. But it's actually different in the book. In the book, Solitaire is not virginal; she's a fairly hardened sexual adventuress who is actually using Mr. BIG for her own purposes. So Fleming actually avoids the trope of "White Woman Needs Rescue From Black Captor" that the movie contains.

By the way, this is a pretty bad book. It's boring, it goes on and on about stupid boring nonsense forever and a day, instead of glamor we get this long tedious stakeout of a.... stupid exotic fish store on a dock in St. Petersburg, Florida (this was used in License to Kill).

This is unforgivable: The mission briefing of Live and Let Die is that the KGB is funding its Western subversion and assassination operations through recovering and selling pirate gold from a sunken pirate ship of, I think, "Bloody" Henry Morgan.

And given that bananas premise, you'd think we'd get a finale where we dive down to the shipwreck and fight the bad guys there, but no! We never even see the pirate ship. The only diving that happens, happens when Bond dives to attach a limpet mine to Mr. BIG's yacht. (This results in the keelhauling over a coral reef sequence that was used in For Your Eyes Only.)

Great sequence, yes. But no pirate ship! The promise made in the opening briefing is completely blown off! The book completely forgets about piracy after M's briefing.

The other promise made in the opening briefing which is completely blown off is -- voodoo! There's almost no voodoo in this book. There's more voodoo in the movie. In the book, Bond reads from a (real) book about voodoo, which Fleming quotes a page from, and it's pretty awesome -- it talks about some potion being made from rum, chicken blood, tobacco juice, hot sauce, and gunpowder -- and you sit there rubbing your hands saying, like Flounder, "Oh boy, guys, this is gonna be great...!" But then there's barely any voodoo or voodoo-theming in the book. I guess it's mentioned once in a while, but it has nothing like the prominence it has in the movie. Certainly there's no character like Baron Samedi, who was invented for the movie. (I mean, actually, Lord Saturday is voodoo loa, of course, but he was made into a character for the movie.)

Anyway. This is a definite skip unless you want to read all of them.

Back to the current abortion. "Misogyny." I don't know if Bond where to start on this one. Most of the stuff people object to in Fleming's depiction of women is circumstantial, like this woman needs Bond to rescue or her or this woman resists Bond smothering her with a kiss, but then relents to his passion.

Bond's description of women always includes a quick but incisive evaluation of their figures.

A fair number of women are killed in Fleming's books. Not nearly as many women as men, of course. Obviously no one will censor all the men's deaths -- men's lives don't matter.

But will Vesper's death be censored? Nah, that's too big. But maybe some of the women's deaths will be "softened."

I don't think that men who need the use of "sensitivity readers" are reading Fleming or any kind of men's adventure fiction in the first place. I expect these editions to stiff.

Thanks to DB -- spanning the globe.


I insist:

If I were a "sensitivity reader" assigned to Live and Let Die, I'd rewrite it to heavily feature pirate ships and voodoo, so as not to "trigger" all the readers who are expecting some f***ing pirate ships and voodoo action. As you can see, I am triggered to this very day.

The premise that the KGB is funding assassinations via the pirate gold it found on a sunken pirate treasure ship, and the KGB agent doing that is a Voodoo King of the Dead who keeps the black underworld in line by threatening that he will turn people into his Zombies if they do not obey him, is gonzo crazy fun and it's a crime that this premise is just abandoned past the briefing. The plot after that just becomes "steal the girl, kill the bad guy."

Buh... buh... buh... buh wha about all that stuff M was talking about in the briefing...?! Where did the pirates and Voodoo King go...?

It's like Fleming wrote that briefing as a hook and then decided, "Ah, that's too dumb, I can't go anywhere with that. I can hook them with that, but I can't actually do anything with that. I should just make this a long boring chase and then a stake-out and then an assassination attempt."

This book is Literally Violence You Guys.

Posted by: Ace at 01:10 PM




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1 sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:10 PM (LvTSG)

2 Nd!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 28, 2023 01:10 PM (Wnv9h)

3 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at February 28, 2023 01:10 PM (pYVwC)

4 10 years from now:

It was always Jane Bond. Why do you ask?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 28, 2023 01:11 PM (KbCG3)

5 Octofronthole

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 28, 2023 01:12 PM (/EuRN)

6 top ten

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 28, 2023 01:13 PM (kFrCu)

7 Bowlderizing-->Bowdlerizing

mid 19th century: from the name of Dr. Thomas Bowdler (1754–1825), who published an expurgated edition of Shakespeare in 1818, + -ize.

Posted by: m at February 28, 2023 01:13 PM (syBNd)

8 The job is done. The bitch is dead.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 28, 2023 01:13 PM (44ww/)

9 maybe they can go all the way and replace james bond with kamala harris.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 28, 2023 01:13 PM (kFrCu)

10 It is funny how slippery this slope is, isn't it?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:14 PM (zZu0s)

11 mid 19th century: from the name of Dr. Thomas Bowdler (1754–1825), who published an expurgated edition of Shakespeare in 1818, + -ize.
Posted by: m at February 28, 2023 01:13 PM (syBNd)

proof that dopes getting doctorates is not a new phenomenon

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 28, 2023 01:14 PM (/EuRN)

12
As I was saying, regarding the latest sad news:

Goodbye Westminsterdogshow.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at February 28, 2023 01:14 PM (j7i25)

13 Most of the stuff people object to in Fleming's depiction of women is circumstantial, like this woman needs Bond to rescue or her or this woman resists Bond smothering her with a kiss, but then relents to his passion.

****

I promise I'll care about all of that when the last four or five generations of women's romance book authors do.

Posted by: Azathoth at February 28, 2023 01:15 PM (wb1YC)

14 The goal is to kill western culture. Nothing more, nothing less.

This is no different than musselmen blowing up ancient statues that predate their religion.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 28, 2023 01:15 PM (lTGtQ)

15 To give you an idea of what a bunch of pansy-ass wimpy pussies everyone has become, I'm judging a mock trial for the NYSBA.

The case involves a plaintiff who is a recovered alcoholic. There are big loud trigger warnings all over the materials that they include references to drinking and if this triggers you, here's a list of support groups that can help. Un-fucking-real.

They also avoid having to use pronouns at all, by repeating the name over and over. So a sentence would read: "Elric Blade decided that Elric wanted to have an early dinner, so Elric started preparing Elric's dinner around 4 pm." So stupid. So annoying.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 28, 2023 01:15 PM (iFTx/)

16 During my time in the camps, I had got to know the enemies of the human race quite well: they respect the big fist and nothing else; the harder you slug them, the safer you will be. - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 28, 2023 01:15 PM (E+05M)

17 Maybe we should have designated people memorize the original works. They could then teach them to others for prosperity.

Posted by: Javems at February 28, 2023 01:15 PM (Xawmf)

18 The Left loves 1984 so much, they decided to bring it to the really real world.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:15 PM (lEVn+)

19 Just make Blofeld the good guy and Bond the racist UltraMAGA idiot who somehow manages to foil him.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 28, 2023 01:15 PM (/EuRN)

20 bowlerize: verb: to make all the characters wears hats like laurel and hardy wore.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 28, 2023 01:15 PM (kFrCu)

21 The attempt to make a Monkey Island movie was the pre-production hell that ended up with Pirates of the Caribbean.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 28, 2023 01:16 PM (44ww/)

22 How could you work in publishing and think this is OK?

Posted by: mr tmz at February 28, 2023 01:16 PM (rJ48h)

23 "This book was written at a time when terms and attitudes which might be considered offensive by modern readers were commonplace,"



The problem isn't the books, it is modern readers. This is why I have bought hundreds of books, in paper form. The goal is to burn everything, and having it online is not guaranteed.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 28, 2023 01:16 PM (lTGtQ)

24 Buy physical media. Save it for the future generations. If there are any...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:17 PM (lEVn+)

25 Oh, for Pete's sake, just depict Bond like in National Lampoon's "Foreigners of the World" when P.J. O'Rourke was funny. A bunch of cold blooded queers.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 28, 2023 01:17 PM (lz5hY)

26 Just make Blofeld the good guy and Bond the racist UltraMAGA idiot who somehow manages to foil him.

Good. VERY Good.

Get to it

Posted by: George Soros at February 28, 2023 01:17 PM (lc5cP)

27 22 How could you work in publishing and think this is OK?
Posted by: mr tmz at February 28, 2023 01:16 PM (rJ48h)

Because if you don't think this is OK, they don't let you work in publishing.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 28, 2023 01:17 PM (/EuRN)

28 My guesss is that the market will solve this particular instannce of nonsense. Bond only has a non-woke audience. Woke him up and his audience disappears, and like the comic books purge, woke people won't show up to replace the original audience.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 28, 2023 01:17 PM (ppBhU)

29 >>"This book was written at a time when terms and attitudes which might be considered offensive by modern readers were commonplace,"

Mickey Spillane on deck.

Posted by: ZOD at February 28, 2023 01:18 PM (78TBs)

30 Roald Dahl yesterday
Ian Fleming today
George Orwell tomorrow

Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 01:18 PM (mR6Gs)

31 It's probably already been discussed here, but Roald Dahl's classic children's books are being retrofitted for today's ridiculous conglomeration of asshats that is called "society", and its "culture".

Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2023 01:18 PM (dCxaZ)

32 Just saw part of a trailer for a super woke Peter Pan Disney+ "product." Tinkerbell is of course black and the lost boys are filled with POC females. LOLOLOLOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHgCkfcUZcs

Posted by: Max Power at February 28, 2023 01:18 PM (q177U)

33 Currently looking up Ringworld.
Posted by: Seems Legit at February 28, 2023

Loved her in The Breakfast Club

Posted by: ... at February 28, 2023 01:18 PM (oFO+/)

34 Bowlderizing-->Bowdlerizing

mid 19th century: from the name of Dr. Thomas Bowdler (1754–1825), who published an expurgated edition of Shakespeare in 1818, + -ize.
Posted by: m at February 28, 2023 01:13 PM (syBNd)



Don't know if it's true but this has the air of authority.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 28, 2023 01:18 PM (guGkK)

35 Who are these edits for? Millennials? They’re too dumb to read books

Posted by: UGAdawg at February 28, 2023 01:18 PM (W6jfi)

36 I guess I cannot understand why so many people spend so much time and energy trying to get books, shows, movies, comics, etc. Banned and canceled.

If you do not like what you are reading or watching simply turn it off, put it away and leave it be.

Live and let live, right?

So much negative energy spent on this. No wonder our society is Fd.

Posted by: Czech Chick at February 28, 2023 01:18 PM (6Tc2R)

37 "This might be about Britain's rawness at being eclipsed in the empire game"

So many Brits still think/act like they run the world. It's engrained in their culture.

Posted by: Gran at February 28, 2023 01:19 PM (GM3/s)

38 Another change from Fleming's day - he came from an era where British/American intelligence services mostly did work for the good of their countries - not against the people of those countries.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2023 01:19 PM (lc5cP)

39 30 Roald Dahl yesterday
Ian Fleming today
George Orwell tomorrow
Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 01:18 PM (mR6Gs)

And what about me? They'll be rehabilitating gulags

Posted by: Aleksandr Solzhenitzyn at February 28, 2023 01:19 PM (Zzbjj)

40 If you think about it, this is vandalism, no different than throwing paint on an artwork. They are defacing literature.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 28, 2023 01:19 PM (lTGtQ)

41 The only good news is that supposedly these editions will be published in parallel to the real Fleming books, and will not replace them.

-
Will, the new versions be distinguished by a limp dick on the cover?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 28, 2023 01:19 PM (FVME7)

42 England economically thrives on old Bond themes rehashed over and over, as well as Sherlock homes themes over and over.

The last of England is going down the drain.

Posted by: artisanal ette at February 28, 2023 01:19 PM (9qHsE)

43 bowlerize: verb: to make all the characters wears hats like laurel and hardy wore.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 28, 2023 01:15 PM (kFrCu)



Now do Martinize, smartass.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 28, 2023 01:19 PM (guGkK)

44 15 They also avoid having to use pronouns at all, by repeating the name over and over. So a sentence would read: "Elric Blade decided that Elric wanted to have an early dinner, so Elric started preparing Elric's dinner around 4 pm." So stupid. So annoying.
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 28, 2023 01:15 PM (iFTx/)

I can kind of appreciate that, because of the room for misunderstanding.

Posted by: m at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (syBNd)

45 James Ellroy on deck.

Posted by: mr tmz at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (rJ48h)

46 I totally hate the rewriting for wokeness, but I have to confess I wouldn't mind if movies could be edited for gratuitous sex and violence. I think there was a Christian service a long time ago that offered that service but they were shut down by Hollywood because of their precious artistry. I guess the difference is really that I would trust these editors to have not completely tampered with the product. Just left more to the imagination.

Posted by: Iris at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (NaH5I)

47 So Ace has graduated to book reviews?

Posted by: Dr. T at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (jO0xw)

48 I guess I cannot understand why so many people spend so much time and energy trying to get books, shows, movies, comics, etc. Banned and canceled.

The left knows it cannot compete in the realm of ideas or philosophy - so they have decided to remove any alternatives, just like 1984.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (lc5cP)

49 Even an oldtimer librarian who is a committed demorat voter is incensed at the butchery of Roald Dahl's books. I took the opportunity of her outrage to inform her that it's just another Communist Manifesto item that is being checked off the list.

I described to her what the Communists intended, and how they have largely succeeded, so far.

Her response: *crickets*

Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (dCxaZ)

50 There are two Flounders that are famous in film. Gen X and Boomers will go one way, and Millennials right for the Little Mermaid.

Posted by: Mishdog at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (tYUMT)

51 Soon, your kids will be tossed out of school for arguing that the Apollo moon landings were not faked.


They should all grow up to be farmers.

Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (gmo/4)

52 >>24 Buy physical media. Save it for the future generations. If there are any... Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:17 PM (lEVn+)

(looks at "Song of the South" on office bookshelf/commits thoughtcrime).

Posted by: ZOD at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (78TBs)

53 I did enjoy the Ace book review, for the record

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (lEVn+)

54 "bond... james bond..."
"hardy... oliver norvill hardy... and this is my friend, mr laurel'

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (kFrCu)

55 I'm currently reading an Elmore Leonard book (City Primeval). It features the forbidden word which starts with N quite a bit.

Posted by: Doof at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (6uyrZ)

56 "This book was written at a time when terms and attitudes which might be considered offensive by modern readers were commonplace,"

***

How far up your own ass do you have to be to believe nobody uses these terms or has these attitudes anymore?

As the old saying goes, I'd rather read books by people who built a civilization than books by the people who are tearing it down.

Posted by: Azathoth at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (wb1YC)

57
Incidentally, the "new" 1980's The Saint series is on Youtube. It's not bad.

Here is a sample of the 80's Simon Templer. He's not a ponce:

https://youtu.be/9F8OmKRJ_BU?t=2013

Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (j7i25)

58 I will say that the film version of Live and Let Die is kind of racially cringey

There is one character, a cabdriver, who after Bond offers him a $20 tip to take him somewhere, exclaims, " 20 dollars? For 20 dollars, ill take you to a Ku Klux Klan Cookout!"

Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (mR6Gs)

59 Who are these edits for? Millennials? They’re too dumb to read books
Posted by: UGAdawg at February 28, 2023 01:18 PM (W6jfi)


Books that have either spies or cowboys might still have a chance with the crybaby set.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (guGkK)

60 rum, chicken blood, tobacco juice, hot sauce, and gunpowder

For pasta or burgers?

Dessert or floor cleaner?

Posted by: DaveA at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (FhXTo)

61 Antman should have been Kang is funding his empire with pirate gold using his voodoo zombie army. We'd all still be at the theater re-watching it for the 25th time.

Posted by: TexasDan at February 28, 2023 01:21 PM (z/ifB)

62 And women audiences swooned over James Bond . . . go figure.

James Bond is actually no worse than 90% of love interests in woman's romance novels. Almost all of these books involve studly men who are persistent if not aggressive in pursuing the lead female character. There is almost always a scene straight out of early James Bond, where the reluctant female is "taken" sexually by the stud.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 28, 2023 01:21 PM (iFTx/)

63 So much negative energy spent on this. No wonder our society is Fd.
Posted by: Czech Chick at February 28, 2023 01:18 PM (6Tc2R)

Literature, even trashy literature, even moving-picture literature, is an escape. And you must not be allowed to escape your masters.

Literature can teach lessons about life and humanity. And you must not be allowed to fetishize life and humanity above your masters.

It's just plain old brainwashing writ large.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 28, 2023 01:21 PM (/EuRN)

64 Jeepers, men can't have escapist literature. I wonder why?

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 28, 2023 01:21 PM (OTXUv)

65 Who are these edits for? Millennials? They’re too dumb to read books

the commie org NEA

Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2023 01:21 PM (dCxaZ)

66 First they come for the movies, and now the books. Won't anybody think that 15 year old boys bought a book because of Pussy Galore?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 28, 2023 01:21 PM (lz5hY)

67 I understand that they took an actor with Down syndrome and entirely replaced Jason Bourne.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 28, 2023 01:22 PM (44ww/)

68 These idiots haven't had an original idea in their lives. So...how to make money? Oh! Lets just rewrite someone else's story. Look at how cool and brave we are!!!

Fools.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 28, 2023 01:22 PM (anj39)

69 Her response: *crickets*

This is a real problem for left leaning LIVs. The left often does things they don't like - and they have no solution for this because to them the alternative is "racist NAZI republicans"

Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2023 01:22 PM (lc5cP)

70
Are we at the stage, yet, of the current Farce when Roald Dahl's "family" issues a statement in support of the leftist totalitarian censorship?

Posted by: Soothsayer, the HQ's Most Respected Commenter at February 28, 2023 01:22 PM (j7i25)

71 (looks at twitter clip of black man in the city fidgeting with a pistol for a while before executing a bum sitting on the curb)

Oh, good. This will clear things up.

Posted by: DOE confirms our patented COVID bioweapon was lab-created, released by China at February 28, 2023 01:22 PM (bWYk2)

72 Read all the bond books, saw all the Connery movies, maybe a Moore one. All a jumble, nothing stands out still. Much ado about nothing I think.

Posted by: From about That Time at February 28, 2023 01:22 PM (S01lk)

73 I promise I'll care about all of that when the last four or five generations of women's romance book authors do.

This is how I feel about the supposedly racially charged aspect of Live and Let Die. I'll start giving a shit right after Blacked and other pr0n is driven out of the marketplace. Kinda like how I'm gonna start caring about racially charged and indelicate language right after rap music is reformed.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 28, 2023 01:22 PM (ppBhU)

74 Sensitivity readers? Fags.

Posted by: Enough already at February 28, 2023 01:22 PM (C3uQd)

75 Why was the black guy in Live and Let Die called Mr. BIG?

Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 01:22 PM (mR6Gs)

76 Live or Let D.I.E.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at February 28, 2023 01:23 PM (w9Wax)

77 The Nurse Ratchet Castration Complex is really a big deal for our betters.

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 28, 2023 01:23 PM (OTXUv)

78 I understand that they took an actor with Down syndrome and entirely replaced Jason Bourne.

--

No, they're replacing him with a bull-dyke chick.

Jasmin Bourne-This-Way

Posted by: DOE confirms our patented COVID bioweapon was lab-created, released by China at February 28, 2023 01:23 PM (bWYk2)

79 I wouldn't mind if movies could be edited for gratuitous sex and violence. I think there was a Christian service a long time ago that offered that service but they were shut down by Hollywood because of their precious artistry.

Posted by: Iris



Hollywood was angry that they were cutting out the gratuitous sex and violence. That is the only part Hollywood wants to remain.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 28, 2023 01:23 PM (lTGtQ)

80 So Ace has graduated to book reviews?
Posted by: Dr. T at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (jO0xw)


Movie related thread followed by a book related thread. If the next thread is garden or gun related, the weekend COBs might want to start shopping for a new dental plan

Posted by: Doof at February 28, 2023 01:23 PM (6uyrZ)

81 >>>Roald Dahl yesterday
Ian Fleming today
George Orwell tomorrow

perfect.

Posted by: Alec Baldwin at February 28, 2023 01:23 PM (C1Zwz)

82 Why was the black guy in Live and Let Die called Mr. BIG?
Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 01:22 PM (mR6Gs)


Because Swinging Dick was already copyrighted.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 28, 2023 01:23 PM (guGkK)

83 Mid-century Southern lit is in for a PC power-washing, sho now.

Posted by: ZOD at February 28, 2023 01:23 PM (78TBs)

84 There's an Agatha Christie book that has been tweaked over the years....10 Little Bleeps. They were still printing the original one in Eastern Europe in the early 00s. I saw a new edition in the English language bookstore I used to frequent.

Posted by: Mishdog at February 28, 2023 01:23 PM (tYUMT)

85 No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to edit.


Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2023 01:23 PM (gmo/4)

86 Donald Trump is James Bond if James Bond were fat and orange.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 28, 2023 01:23 PM (FVME7)

87 re 43: martinize: verb:; to redraw all characters to look like don martin cartoon characters.

yearsa go i saw a dry cleaning store on 125th st in manhattan that offered 'two hour harlemizing'.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 28, 2023 01:23 PM (kFrCu)

88 They'll be coming of John D. MacDonald next.

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 28, 2023 01:24 PM (OTXUv)

89 52 >>24 Buy physical media. Save it for the future generations. If there are any... Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:17 PM (lEVn+)

(looks at "Song of the South" on office bookshelf/commits thoughtcrime).
Posted by: ZOD at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (78TBs)

Did you buy that from overseas? Or do you have one of the original releases? I have long thought about adding it to my collection too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:24 PM (lEVn+)

90 This is how I feel about the supposedly racially charged aspect of Live and Let Die. I'll start giving a shit right after Blacked and other pr0n is driven out of the marketplace. Kinda like how I'm gonna start caring about racially charged and indelicate language right after rap music is reformed.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 28, 2023 01:22 PM (ppBhU)

There's a dude in those Blacked porn videos who was broke and homeless and couldn't get laid only a few years ago.....

Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 01:24 PM (mR6Gs)

91 Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2023 01:22 PM (lc5cP)

oh yeah, I could almost hear her gears churning, trying to process this new data that was being introduced

she's "with it" enough to understand that I was making an equivalence between her hero demorats and the commies

Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2023 01:24 PM (dCxaZ)

92 41 The only good news is that supposedly these editions will be published in parallel to the real Fleming books, and will not replace them.

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Will, the new versions be distinguished by a limp dick on the cover?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 28, 2023 01:19 PM (FVME7)

Will be the movie poster from the last thread.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 28, 2023 01:24 PM (KbCG3)

93 James Bond is actually no worse than 90% of love interests in woman's romance novels.

The one difference though is in the climax of the Harlequin romance the female lead wins over the pirate captain. In Bond he clearly drops the woman and moves onto the next one in the next novel/movie.

Of course, that's what real world Chads do so...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2023 01:24 PM (lc5cP)

94 81 >>>Roald Dahl yesterday
Ian Fleming today
George Orwell tomorrow

perfect.
Posted by: Alec Baldwin at February 28, 2023 01:23 PM (C1Zwz)

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"No, we need to keep George Orwell in place to better identify the wrong thinkers."
-The British Government

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:24 PM (LvTSG)

95
Well, they already made Bond a boring, whiny pansy in the last film.

Seriously, how in the hell do you make a JAMES BOND FILM boring??? That takes some particularly skillful and inspired evil, SPECTRE-level evil that even made SMERSH stand up and say "whoa".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 28, 2023 01:24 PM (n+4am)

96 The British edition of Live and Let Die used the title "N****r Heaven" for the chapter when Leiter and Bond are traveling in Harlem. The American edition changed it to "Seventh Avenue." Aside from that, no, the term is not used in the book. I'll agree that Fleming overdid the use of black dialect, but it was pretty accurate in sound. I can't tell you how many times I've heard a black person in the south say "Ah'm tard" for "I'm tired."

My memory says that Solitaire, the girl in LLaD, *is* a virgin. Mr. Big says, "At present she is being difficult. She will have nothing to do with men." I don't think she was a hard-core adventuress as Ace describes, though. And the voodoo elements were propaganda that Mr. Big used to frighten his followers. He certainly did not believe it himself.

I'll agree there are some slow bits in all of IF's novels. But the action scenes, man, do they make up for it!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 01:24 PM (J2vNu)

97 Almost all of these books involve studly men who are persistent if not aggressive in pursuing the lead female character.

If women's romance novels are a how-to guide, you have to rape them into loving you.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 28, 2023 01:24 PM (ppBhU)

98 >>>79 I wouldn't mind if movies could be edited for gratuitous sex and violence. I think there was a Christian service a long time ago that offered that service but they were shut down by Hollywood because of their precious artistry.

that's right! It was the Worst Thing Ever!

That service was buying the movies, so the Arteests all got paid, and then censoring them to customer specification. And that kind of thing wasn't even some kind of unprecendented thing -- Arteests submitted to censoring all the time, for commercial television.

But the arteests would not let these Christians do it.

Posted by: Alec Baldwin at February 28, 2023 01:25 PM (C1Zwz)

99 88 They'll be coming of John D. MacDonald next.
Posted by: Puddinhead at February 28, 2023 01:24 PM (OTXUv)

They'll just bury him and make people forget Travis McGee ever existed.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:25 PM (lEVn+)

100 A question about a subject I am clueless about.
In romance novels and other fiction targeted at female readers, are men ever treated as boy toys by the female characters? Are men emotionally and financially exploited? Are there murders and beatings?

If so, how are those works of fiction any different than James Bond novels? (Yeah, I know why but thought I's ask anyway.)

Posted by: Gref at February 28, 2023 01:25 PM (AMIL/)

101 89 Did you buy that from overseas? Or do you have one of the original releases? I have long thought about adding it to my collection too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:24 PM (lEVn+)

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There are Spanish disc versions that are definitely bootlegs. Spain is rife with bootlegs of stuff. You can even get Blu-rays of The Abyss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:25 PM (LvTSG)

102 Mid-century Southern lit is in for a PC power-washing, sho now.
Posted by: ZOD at February 28, 2023 01:23 PM (78TBs)

The thought is already driving me to drink

Posted by: William Faulkner at February 28, 2023 01:25 PM (mR6Gs)

103 The Whale

anti-Christian
pro-obese
pro-masturbating to male porn (in the first sequence of the movie) Literally first scene.

honestly, they don't care if they make money any more
hopefully this will be their downfall - virtue signaling over making money

Posted by: artisanal ette at February 28, 2023 01:25 PM (9qHsE)

104 They never seem particularly concerned about what might offend a Christian. Well other than by jamming it into everything.

Pun intended.

Posted by: ... at February 28, 2023 01:25 PM (axhr1)

105 As the old saying goes, I'd rather read books by people who built a civilization than books by the people who are tearing it down.
Posted by: Azathoth at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (wb1YC)

Stolen.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:25 PM (zZu0s)

106 and then he renders all black patois phonetically, so it's all "sho 'nuff suh, Uh'll get yo' yo' bags quicksmart an' you kin count ahn tha'!"

---

Related:

It's wild to read black college students' twitter feeds. I'm assuming more than a few college grad adults "sho nuff suh" the same.

Posted by: DOE confirms our patented COVID bioweapon was lab-created, released by China at February 28, 2023 01:25 PM (bWYk2)

107 One of the reasons I liked the film Live and Let Die was not just the gorgeous Solitaire, but the fact that they did lean into the voodoo a bit more. That was cool.

People call that film racist, and I do not see it, maybe someone can help me out. The complaints I hear make no sense. They say that it portrays every black person as a criminal (false, there's a heroic black guy and most of the people in Harlem and New Olreans are just folks). People complained that the crime network that Mr Big has in Harlem was like every black person was a crook, but all that did was show how well organized and powerful the crime syndicate was.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2023 01:26 PM (0hOvj)

108 Will the new edits include child rape grooming because if they don't they won't sell.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 28, 2023 01:26 PM (E+05M)

109 It's book burning by another name. Enjoy the fascism.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 28, 2023 01:26 PM (0Qrr3)

110 98 That service was buying the movies, so the Arteests all got paid, and then censoring them to customer specification. And that kind of thing wasn't even some kind of unprecendented thing -- Arteests submitted to censoring all the time, for commercial television.

But the arteests would not let these Christians do it.
Posted by: Alec Baldwin at February 28, 2023 01:25 PM (C1Zwz)

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I think the legal thing on it was that they were renting out the copies they edited, so they were making money off of it which was copyright infringement or something.

Another reason I hate the American copyright regime. It's selectively enforced.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:26 PM (LvTSG)

111 >>>My memory says that Solitaire, the girl in LLaD, *is* a virgin. Mr. Big says, "At present she is being difficult. She will have nothing to do with men." I don't think she was a hard-core adventuress as Ace describes, though.

My memory is that she was r-worded as a younger girl and was trafficked or something and had then settled into this mentalist scam. As far as having nothing to do with men, I think she was saying that to Mr. BIG so she didn't have to sleep with him. I think she says as much to Bond.



Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:27 PM (C1Zwz)

112 England was fucked 30 years ago.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 28, 2023 01:27 PM (r1ZRd)

113 People complained that the crime network that Mr Big has in Harlem was like every black person was a crook, but all that did was show how well organized and powerful the crime syndicate was.

Because as we all know crime syndicates strive to be multi-racial. Not Chinese triads, Italian mobs, Irish mobs, etc...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2023 01:27 PM (lc5cP)

114 Why was the black guy in Live and Let Die called Mr. BIG?
Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023


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Well, he was not a physically small person. But it came from his initials. He'd been born outside the U.S. -- I've forgotten where -- and his birth name was "Buonaparte [sic] Ignace Gallia."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 01:27 PM (J2vNu)

115 that's right! It was the Worst Thing Ever!

That service was buying the movies, so the Arteests all got paid, and then censoring them to customer specification. And that kind of thing wasn't even some kind of unprecendented thing -- Arteests submitted to censoring all the time, for commercial television.

But the arteests would not let these Christians do it.
Posted by: Alec Baldwin at February 28, 2023 01:25 PM (C1Zwz)

Wait a second, this does not sound like Alec Baldwin at all!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:27 PM (zZu0s)

116 >>Did you buy that from overseas? Or do you have one of the original releases? I have long thought about adding it to my collection too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:24 PM (lEVn+)

It's not original; found it on Ebay. Hate has a home on Zod's bookshelf.

Posted by: ZOD at February 28, 2023 01:27 PM (78TBs)

117 109 It's book burning by another name. Enjoy the fascism.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 28, 2023 01:26 PM (0Qrr3)

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They told me that if I voted for Trump, then we'd see book burning fascism, and they were right!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:27 PM (LvTSG)

118 I totally hate the rewriting for wokeness, but I have to confess I wouldn't mind if movies could be edited for gratuitous sex and violence. I think there was a Christian service a long time ago that offered that service but they were shut down by Hollywood because of their precious artistry. I guess the difference is really that I would trust these editors to have not completely tampered with the product. Just left more to the imagination.
Posted by: Iris at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (NaH5I)

Perhaps there would be a market for a helmet that one could wear, with a visor and earmuffs, that could be programmed to auto-censor stuff that the wearer doesn't like.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 28, 2023 01:27 PM (tkR6S)

119 If women's romance novels are a how-to guide, you have to rape them into loving you.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 28, 2023 01:24 PM (ppBhU)

This is what happened on the daytime soap General Hospital in 1979? when Laura fell in love with Luke Spencer after he raped her.

Posted by: William Faulkner at February 28, 2023 01:27 PM (mR6Gs)

120 >>>I think the legal thing on it was that they were renting out the copies they edited, so they were making money off of it which was copyright infringement or something.

do you mean like every video store in America

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:27 PM (C1Zwz)

121 We are here...

The first day of "year Zero" was declared by the Khmer Rouge on 17 April 1975 upon their takeover of Cambodia in order to signify a rebirth of Cambodian history. Adopting the term as an analogy to the "Year One" of the French Revolutionary Calendar, Year Zero was effectually an attempt by the Khmer Rouge to erase history and reset Cambodian society to a zeroth year, removing any vestiges of the past.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at February 28, 2023 01:28 PM (MFZ8i)

122
"Reading is not an end to itself, but a means to an end."

--- some dude with a mustache in the new, censored edition of "Wein Kampf"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 28, 2023 01:28 PM (oINRc)

123 I look forward to not buying the new editions. Just like I haven't watched the recent Bond movie. I may never again.

Posted by: goatexchange at February 28, 2023 01:28 PM (APPN8)

124
Hollywood was angry that they were cutting out the gratuitous sex and violence. That is the only part Hollywood wants to remain.
Posted by: Thomas Paine


That was the best line in the non-Eon Bond film Never Say Never Again. Q and Bond...

"Now you're on this. I hope we're going to have some gratuitous sex and violence!"

"I certainly hope so too."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 28, 2023 01:28 PM (n+4am)

125 I wouldn't mind if movies could be edited for gratuitous sex and violence. I think there was a Christian service a long time ago that offered that service but they were shut down by Hollywood because of their precious artistry.

Posted by: Iris

Hollywood was angry that they were cutting out the gratuitous sex and violence. That is the only part Hollywood wants to remain.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 28, 2023 01:23 PM (lTGtQ)

Not just Hollywood. Sex and violence is 90% of what I watch movies for.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:28 PM (lEVn+)

126 The people combing Ian Fleming's books for WrongThink could walk 100 miles in any direction from where they sit and not find one female that had ever read any of Ian Fleming's books or intend to.


Posted by: Azathoth at February 28, 2023 01:28 PM (wb1YC)

127 120 >>>I think the legal thing on it was that they were renting out the copies they edited, so they were making money off of it which was copyright infringement or something.

do you mean like every video store in America
Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:27 PM (C1Zwz)

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Yeah, except Blockbuster never edited the films.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:28 PM (LvTSG)

128 "sensitivity readers" - to continue their supposed usefulness and gainful employment, will find increasing numbers of words, phrases, themes, etc. to be in need of cleansing. Otherwise, they will no longer be needed / paid.

See also: race hustlers

Posted by: Doof at February 28, 2023 01:28 PM (6uyrZ)

129 My memory is that she was r-worded as a younger girl and was trafficked or something and had then settled into this mentalist scam. As far as having nothing to do with men, I think she was saying that to Mr. BIG so she didn't have to sleep with him. I think she says as much to Bond.
Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:27 PM (C1Zwz)

I honestly think I prefer the movie. And Jane Seymour.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:28 PM (zZu0s)

130 99 88 They'll be coming of John D. MacDonald next.
Posted by: Puddinhead at February 28, 2023 01:24 PM (OTXUv)

They'll just bury him and make people forget Travis McGee ever existed.
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Paperbacks are Forever.

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 28, 2023 01:28 PM (OTXUv)

131 There's an Agatha Christie book that has been tweaked over the years....10 Little Bleeps. They were still printing the original one in Eastern Europe in the early 00s. I saw a new edition in the English language bookstore I used to frequent.
Posted by: Mishdog at February 28, 2023 01:23 PM (tYUMT)


That was done back in the 40s, prior to the first American printing, I think. And in all honesty, I would feel extremely uncomfortable buying it with the original title (even though it is one of the best mystery novels ever, in my opinion).

Posted by: Dr. T at February 28, 2023 01:28 PM (jO0xw)

132

I'm surprised Ace did not link the woman sleeping at Twitter and Musk firing her butt. High level - I would say gaia

Fits right in.

Posted by: artisanal ette at February 28, 2023 01:28 PM (9qHsE)

133 125 Not just Hollywood. Sex and violence is 90% of what I watch movies for.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:28 PM (lEVn+)

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Have I got a filmmaker for you!

*tries to find Ralph Bakshi collection to share with Mark*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:29 PM (LvTSG)

134 Nazi Book Burning 2.0.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 28, 2023 01:29 PM (q3ANs)

135 "These books were written at a time...

Now do blaxploitation.

Posted by: ZOD at February 28, 2023 01:29 PM (78TBs)

136 The British edition of Live and Let Die used the title "N****r Heaven" for the chapter when Leiter and Bond are traveling in Harlem. The American edition changed it to "Seventh Avenue." Aside from that, no, the term is not used in the book. I'll agree that Fleming overdid the use of black dialect, but it was pretty accurate in sound. I can't tell you how many times I've heard a black person in the south say "Ah'm tard" for "I'm tired."


You may keep your originals for, oh, say the paltry sum of $5 million dollars.

Posted by: Mayor San Fran at February 28, 2023 01:29 PM (anj39)

137 Having recently watched the old Bond movies for the first time recently, I found them to be quite hilarious. Dude was a walking hard-on who occasionally did some spy stuff.

That he could turn any moment into a boning opportunity was inspirational.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 28, 2023 01:29 PM (KbCG3)

138 135 "These books were written at a time...

Now do blaxploitation.
Posted by: ZOD at February 28, 2023 01:29 PM (78TBs)

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Hating whitey is timeless.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:29 PM (LvTSG)

139
Wasn't there a "Jane Bond" movie / series / porno / spoof in the 80's?

Ace should know this cold.

Posted by: Auspex at February 28, 2023 01:30 PM (j4U/Z)

140 Cry, bitches!

Back on top! Elon Musk is back to being the richest man in the world

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 28, 2023 01:30 PM (FVME7)

141 Oddly, Bond has a rather poor opinion of Americans, too. This might be about Britain's rawness at being eclipsed in the empire game. It might be snobbishness. It might just be about him thinking Americans are boorish stupid prats.
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Have you never watched TOP GEAR? British people love taking the piss out of America, the germans, the french, the italians, poles, there is no predominately white country they won't malign. We're fat, stupid, pick up truck driving, idiots, bloodthirsty idiots.

Posted by: I know I said idiots twice at February 28, 2023 01:30 PM (ycY17)

142 I think the legal thing on it was that they were renting out the copies they edited, so they were making money off of it which was copyright infringement or something.

Sorry, but if I take the trouble to write a book I want it to stand or fall on my creativity, or lack of it. I don't want some yokel rewriting it (and reselling it) to suit the perceived sensitivities of a niche audience who will take the final product as my own work.

If you don't like my book, write your own bloody book.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 28, 2023 01:30 PM (guGkK)

143 137 Having recently watched the old Bond movies for the first time recently, I found them to be quite hilarious. Dude was a walking hard-on who occasionally did some spy stuff.

That he could turn any moment into a boning opportunity was inspirational.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 28, 2023 01:29 PM (KbCG3)

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Ah...I see you are thinking of the Roger Moore adventures.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:30 PM (LvTSG)

144 This is madness. Who buys these thing? Under what authority is this possible?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 28, 2023 01:30 PM (Jg7EG)

145 >>>76 Live or Let D.I.E.

oh that would have been a good post title

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:30 PM (C1Zwz)

146 The Gope doesn't have the votes to impeach Mayorkas.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at February 28, 2023 01:30 PM (Y4GvW)

147 144 This is madness. Who buys these thing? Under what authority is this possible?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 28, 2023 01:30 PM (Jg7EG)

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Who wants to bet that the Fleming estate, now run by a handful of British university system Gen-Zers, signed off on the changes?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:31 PM (LvTSG)

148 My memory is that she was r-worded as a younger girl and was trafficked or something and had then settled into this mentalist scam. As far as having nothing to do with men, I think she was saying that to Mr. BIG so she didn't have to sleep with him. I think she says as much to Bond.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023


***
She certainly knew how to flirt strongly with him, on the train, for instance. Fleming's Bond always had a thing for "wounded birds," so to speak. Tiffany Case, 2 books later, had indeed been gangbanged when a teen, for instance, and Tracy, the girl he later marries, was depressed to the point of suicide.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 01:31 PM (J2vNu)

149
They'll have James Bond pondering selections of fake period blood to purchase for itself before ten years have passed.

Mark my words.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 28, 2023 01:31 PM (pNxlR)

150 Looking for every possible offense that might be construed by favored groups is as good as making adult entertainment suitable only for underdeveloped minds, ie children.

And at the same time, they are filling children's entertainment with disturbing sexual imagery that would only be suitable for adults.

🤔

Posted by: ... at February 28, 2023 01:31 PM (axhr1)

151 >>Hating whitey is timeless.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:29 PM (LvTSG)

"Smack a bitch in a minute/sometimes just for fun..."

Posted by: ZOD at February 28, 2023 01:31 PM (78TBs)

152 People complained that the crime network that Mr Big has in Harlem was like every black person was a crook, but all that did was show how well organized and powerful the crime syndicate was.


Also, one thing the Bond producers were good at was having the movies reflect the culture at large at the time they were made.
For instance, Live and let Die echoed a lot of early '70's "blaxploitation" films. Moonraker came out the year after Star Wars. There was a Southern sheriff in a couple of the films post-Deliverance

Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 01:31 PM (mR6Gs)

153 So much for 60s macho going down the toilet

Posted by: Skip at February 28, 2023 01:31 PM (bx3Pl)

154 (looks at twitter clip of black man in the city fidgeting with a pistol for a while before executing murdering a bum sitting on the curb)

Oh, good. This will clear things up.
Posted by: DOE confirms our patented COVID bioweapon was lab-created, released by China at February 28, 2023 01:22 PM (bWYk2)

Fixed it for you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 28, 2023 01:32 PM (tkR6S)

155 There are several reasons that may underpin the cost of insurance premiums,” the Australian insurers said.

These may include:

- The computer technology and parts in an electric vehicle are more expensive to produce and replace
- Repairing damaged electric vehicles requires importing parts to Australia
- There are few service centres around Australia that can repair electric vehicles, vehicles may need to be transported to a distant location to be repaired
- Repairing electric vehicles requires specialty tradespeople, at present there are relatively few of these trained people in Australia
- Dealing with damaged electric vehicle batteries is time and labour consuming. It also requires specialty equipment and disposal (recycling) methods. A significant factor in cost is the risks associated with electric vehicle batteries, and the requirements to replace.
- The supply chain in Australia is in its infancy leading to higher costs, the situation is unlikely to improve until the demand and then supply increases.
- All vehicle supply chains have been impacted by the pandemic, with cost increases being observed across the repair sector level,” the spokesperson said.

Posted by: Crusty The Clown at February 28, 2023 01:32 PM (RHGPo)

156 Wait until they go after the movies - the great scene in Goldfinger where Sean Connery dismisses a bikini-clad lovely by slapping her on the ass and announcing "This is man talk" is not long for this world.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 28, 2023 01:32 PM (2tUFv)

157 137 Having recently watched the old Bond movies for the first time recently, I found them to be quite hilarious. Dude was a walking hard-on who occasionally did some spy stuff.

That he could turn any moment into a boning opportunity was inspirational.
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Yeah, I saw the end of Goldfinger last week. It was really dated and, to be honest, cheesy. But in the sixies it was everything.

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 28, 2023 01:32 PM (OTXUv)

158 They'll have James Bond pondering selections of fake period blood to purchase for itself before ten years have passed.

Nah, Q and his superscience will just literally make Bond menstruate when necessary.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 28, 2023 01:32 PM (ppBhU)

159
Sam Brinton with be paired with Jane Bond in "The Great Luggage Carousel Caper".

Mark my words.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 28, 2023 01:32 PM (pNxlR)

160 Wasn't there a "Jane Bond" movie / series / porno / spoof in the 80's?

Ace should know this cold.
Posted by: Auspex at February 28, 2023 01:30 PM (j4U/Z)

There was a game series with a femme fatale secret agent... No One Lives Forever(?)

It was good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:32 PM (zZu0s)

161 saw Live and Let Die in theater. the car jump was badass. some other stuff happened too and then the voodoo guy started selling 7Up.

Posted by: x at February 28, 2023 01:32 PM (ZBPE2)

162 When do they start bowdlerizing "The Destroyer" novels. The main character Remo Williams basically uses his Sinanju superpowers to seduce women against their will...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 28, 2023 01:32 PM (YIVH2)

163 Now I have the For Your Eyes Only theme ear worm going.
I guess it could be worse.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 28, 2023 01:33 PM (anj39)

164 I'm wondering just how many people are just now deciding to read the James Bond books....

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2023 01:33 PM (bs+z0)

165 Nah, Q and his superscience will just literally make Bond menstruate when necessary.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 28, 2023 01:32 PM (ppBhU)

"What happens when I press this button?"

"NO DON---- awwwww"

".... You know that i've always hated you, Q, right?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 28, 2023 01:33 PM (/EuRN)

166 I think this is his best effort to represent the southern black drawl accurately and present it, not to demean it, but to give readers a You Are There tour, to let them live the moment as if they are on vacation...

I feel your pain. As Wiki notes: ...produced seven Uncle Remus books. He did so by introducing tales that he had heard and framing them in the plantation context. He wrote his stories in a dialect which was his interpretation of the Deep South African-American language of the time. For these framing and stylistic choices, Harris's collection has garnered controversy since its publication.

Posted by: Joel Chandler Harris at February 28, 2023 01:34 PM (JCZqz)

167 I've read one spy book. Not my cup of tea.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 28, 2023 01:34 PM (pohLc)

168 "People complained that the crime network that Mr Big has in Harlem was like every black person was a crook, but all that did was show how well organized and powerful the crime syndicate was."


If people though Mr. Big in LaLD made people believe all blacks are crooks, I wonder if they considered the 1972 film, "Across 110th Street" to be racist? Black gangsters galore.

Posted by: Gref at February 28, 2023 01:34 PM (AMIL/)

169 SMOD abandoned us because we're killing ourselves far more horribly than an instantaneous fiery catastrophe ever could

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 28, 2023 01:34 PM (z5L8c)

170 Yeah, I saw the end of Goldfinger last week. It was really dated and, to be honest, cheesy. But in the sixies it was everything.
Posted by: Puddinhead at February 28, 2023 01:32 PM (OTXUv)
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Watched Moonraker recently. It was a series of action set pieces interspersed with some boring exposition and occasional boning sessions. Pretty standard Roger Moore-era Bond, I suppose.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 28, 2023 01:34 PM (YIVH2)

171 They told me that if I voted for Trump, then we'd see book burning fascism, and they were right!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:27 PM (LvTSG)

I prefer "They said if Trump won the 2020 election...."

Posted by: ... at February 28, 2023 01:34 PM (axhr1)

172 The British edition of Live and Let Die used the title "N****r Heaven" for the chapter when Leiter and Bond are traveling in Harlem. The American edition changed it to "Seventh Avenue." Aside from that, no, the term is not used in the book. I'll agree that Fleming overdid the use of black dialect, but it was pretty accurate in sound. I can't tell you how many times I've heard a black person in the south say "Ah'm tard" for "I'm tired."

Fleming lived on an estate in Jamaica and had servants

Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 01:34 PM (mR6Gs)

173 85 No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to edit.
Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2023 01:23 PM (gmo/4)

; )

Posted by: m at February 28, 2023 01:34 PM (syBNd)

174 If women's romance novels are a how-to guide, you have to rape them into loving you.

Yeah I read a few. My sister in law had boxes of these bodice rippers and romance novels. About half of them were basically porn, graphic sexual content. The ones that were not were pretty steamy.

And they all had a few things in common. First, the stalker boyfriend who would not take no for an answer. Second, the violent lovemaking (kisses bruising lips, leaving marks on her body, etc). Third, rape was a common feature, but wasn't necessarily a bad thing.

Remember when Bernie Sanders got in hot water for saying women fantasize about rape? These books strongly suggest he's right. A study done in the 70s at least showed that rape fantasies were in the top three of women's sexual fantasies. Now, like all studies of this kind its based on polling and extreme self-selection, because you'll only get a certain kind of woman that will answer such a poll. But the preponderance of evidence suggests that its true for at least some women.

But these women scream bloody murder and freak out if men's fantasies have something like this stuff.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2023 01:34 PM (0hOvj)

175 I'll wait until they bowdlerize the writings of Karl Marx, as detailed by Walter Williams in The Signal:

https://tinyurl.com/ykz98a2m

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2023 01:34 PM (YqDXo)

176 There was a game series with a femme fatale secret agent... No One Lives Forever(?)

It was good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:32 PM (zZu0s)

Man that was a fun game

Posted by: ... at February 28, 2023 01:35 PM (axhr1)

177 Oddly, Bond has a rather poor opinion of Americans, too. This might be about Britain's rawness at being eclipsed in the empire game. It might be snobbishness. It might just be about him thinking Americans are boorish stupid prats.

***
He kids Leiter in a later book about the latter's Studillac (a Studebaker Hawk coupe with a Cadillac engine), saying, "This sort of thing's all right for kids who can't afford a real car."

In the novel of Goldfinger, when he and Tilly see the bodies of the people outside Fort Knox, she comments about the pink froth around their mouths. Bond does not want her to know they are dead and pretends they are just anesthetized. He says to explain the froth, "You know how Americans are, always chewing something."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 01:35 PM (J2vNu)

178 Ace,

I felt the same way as you do about voodoo and "LaLD" with the movie "Devil in a Blue Dress" with Denzel Washington.

It's a post-WWII noir-style movie. And in it there's a crazy character in DW's neighborhood with a double-bladed axe that he's always sharpening when he's not pissing off people by trying to chop down the trees in their yards.

That guy and his axe is focussed on several times throughout the movie. More times than even some of the people actually involved with the murder and mystery.

So, you're thinking, "Oh boy, someone is gonna get that axe in the head at some unexpected point. This ought to be good."

You know the old "If you show a gun at the beginning of a movie, someone's gotta use that gun before the end." Bu-u-u-u-u-ut, nope.

Just a big tease. It's triggering I tell you.
They need to reshoot movies to eliminate unrealized expectations.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 28, 2023 01:35 PM (KLPy8)

179 Today:

Portland Audubon Commits to Dropping the Name Audubon

Over the last few years, coinciding with a time of racial reckoning, the birding community has been rethinking its relationship with the John James Audubon name. Many know him as a wildlife artist whose illustrations helped shape the field of ornithology. Some associate the name with fond memories of birding trips, summer camps, and environmental advocacy from organizations like ours. What has been dismissed, ignored, or overlooked until the last few years by both Portland Audubon and the larger Audubon community is the fact that John James Audubon enslaved and sold Black people, opposed the abolition of slavery, and dug up and stole the human remains of Native Americans from their graves.

After a great deal of discussion within our board, staff, and with other Audubon chapters, Portland Audubon’s board voted in January to move away from the name Audubon. In order to best achieve our mission as an organization committed to racial equity and the environment, we cannot continue to condone bearing a name that celebrates a slaveholder who embraced white supremacist systems.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 28, 2023 01:35 PM (2tUFv)

180 It's social engineering- there's no market for this. Are people walking around saying, "I'd really like to read these books but my delicate sensibilities can't handle them as written. If only there were a version suitable for my soy-based shrinking-violet self!"

But that's not how anything works. People don't go around saying, "Re-release the novel Silence of the Lambs without the part where Lecter mocks Christians," or "Release a version of How to be Anti-racist that's not racist." They just don't buy the damn book.

Posted by: NJ Class Traitor at February 28, 2023 01:35 PM (+aI/4)

181 In fairness, on the Dahl one we are talking about children. Imagine how destructive it might be to self-esteeem if there are gratutious negative references to overweight people when drag queens are reading James and the Giant Peach to your morbidly obese children.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 28, 2023 01:35 PM (ppBhU)

182 162 When do they start bowdlerizing "The Destroyer" novels. The main character Remo Williams basically uses his Sinanju superpowers to seduce women against their will...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 28, 2023 01:32 PM (YIVH2)

Every book. I think there was one I read that did not and it was like 'What the hell?'

They could get quite graphic. It is like romance novels for dudes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:35 PM (zZu0s)

183 When do they start bowdlerizing "The Destroyer" novels. The main character Remo Williams basically uses his Sinanju superpowers to seduce women against their will...

***

"How dare you reduce us to a bunch of body parts and neurological responses?"

- blue haired Tumblrina who identifies as a dinette set.

Posted by: Azathoth at February 28, 2023 01:35 PM (wb1YC)

184 They'll never do Flashman, it would be too triggering for them. Unless a team worked on separate small parts, like the translating of the Lethal Joke into German.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 28, 2023 01:35 PM (2hlEI)

185
Didn't they base that H'wood version on William Stephenson?

That guy was actually cool, not some Brit queen (BIRM) who doubles as a gay Colonel Sanders in those Knives Out things.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 28, 2023 01:36 PM (oINRc)

186 saw Live and Let Die in theater. the car jump was badass. some other stuff happened too and then the voodoo guy started selling 7Up.
Posted by: x at February 28, 2023 01:32 PM (ZBPE2)

The car jump was in the next Bond movie, The Man With the Golden Gun

Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 01:36 PM (mR6Gs)

187 >>>167 I've read one spy book. Not my cup of tea.

i'm trying to think of a spy book that will change your mind.

Marathon Man is a thriller about an everyman caught up in a nasty spy plot. It's super-cynical with lots of big nasty reveals.

I know everyone's seen the movie so maybe this isn't a good recommend.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:36 PM (C1Zwz)

188 "sho 'nuff suh, Uh'll get yo' yo' bags quicksmart an' you kin count ahn tha'!" If that sentence was hard to get through and cringey, imagine literal pages and pages and pages of this

That roughly approximates the dialog which Zucker/Abrahams/Zucker had composed for our characters in Airplane!, prior to our revisions.

Posted by: The Two Jive Guys at February 28, 2023 01:36 PM (xttsV)

189 Chekov's Axe.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:36 PM (zZu0s)

190 I can't tell you how many times I've heard a black person in the south say "Ah'm tard" for "I'm tired."

Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 01:34 PM (mR6Gs)
______________

"I ain't noways tahred."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2023 01:36 PM (YqDXo)

191 There was a game series with a femme fatale secret agent... No One Lives Forever(?)

It was good.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:32 PM

Cate Archer, the Operative. In the No One Lives Forever 2 box, you also got a CD with music inspired by the game, era and genre. Good times.

Posted by: Grimmy at February 28, 2023 01:36 PM (JCZqz)

192 That laser was going to hit Bond right in the junk!

Posted by: eleven at February 28, 2023 01:36 PM (iziT8)

193 Have you never watched TOP GEAR? British people love taking the piss out of America, the germans, the french, the italians, poles, there is no predominately white country they won't malign. We're fat, stupid, pick up truck driving, idiots, bloodthirsty idiots.

Posted by: I know I said idiots twice at February 28, 2023 01:30 PM (ycY17)


They're pissed that we kicked their asses twice and had to save their asses three times.



Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2023 01:36 PM (gmo/4)

194 To me, the real flaw in the plotting of LLaD is when Bond, having attached the limpet mine to Mr. Big's yacht, instead of swimming swiftly away, goes on to try somehow to keep Solitaire from sailing on the doomed vessel. Which means he gets caught. Not a smart thing to do. Heroic and sentimental, but not smart.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 01:37 PM (J2vNu)

195 187 Marathon Man is a thriller about an everyman caught up in a nasty spy plot. It's super-cynical with lots of big nasty reveals.

I know everyone's seen the movie so maybe this isn't a good recommend.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:36 PM (C1Zwz)

==========

Just got a 4K from Kino Lorber.

I'll be picking it up soon.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:37 PM (LvTSG)

196 If you ever want to know what for certain the leftards are about, you need only note what they accuse us of. It is completely reliable and foolproof. They deserve the pleasures of Hell for eternity.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 28, 2023 01:37 PM (pohLc)

197 Perhaps there would be a market for a helmet that one could wear, with a visor and earmuffs, that could be programmed to auto-censor stuff that the wearer doesn't like.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 28, 2023 01:27 PM (tkR6S)

^^lol, I'm not that delicate. I'm here, aren't I?

Although I hate to break it to the 'rons that I'm pretty sure the rapey romance genre died a long time ago. All the romance novels I've read are all the evolving connection and happy ending. Sorry phrasing - connection and wedded bliss.

Posted by: Iris at February 28, 2023 01:37 PM (NaH5I)

198 Theme song to Casino Royale.
Chris Cornell (from Soundgarden) - You Know My Name.
The best Bond movie theme song.
Fight me.
(except TJM -- he's already fights me too much)

Posted by: Doof at February 28, 2023 01:37 PM (6uyrZ)

199 >>>They need to reshoot movies to eliminate unrealized expectations.

yeah. I mean, it's worse when this is the main part of the MISSION BRIEFING.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:37 PM (C1Zwz)

200 Some of the Dirk Pitt novels are not too bad. Fast Cars and hot women. More adventure than 'spies.'

Still, James Bond is really a male adventure series anyway.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:37 PM (zZu0s)

201 After a great deal of discussion within our board, staff, and with other Audubon chapters, Portland Audubon’s board voted in January to move away from the name Audubon. In order to best achieve our mission as an organization committed to racial equity and the environment, we cannot continue to condone bearing a name that celebrates a slaveholder who embraced white supremacist systems.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 28, 2023 01:35 PM (2tUFv)

Fun fun fun it's the Audubon

Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 01:37 PM (mR6Gs)

202 Kissy Suzuki or Aki?

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at February 28, 2023 01:38 PM (MFZ8i)

203 161 saw Live and Let Die in theater. the car jump was badass. some other stuff happened too and then the voodoo guy started selling 7Up.

Posted by: x at February 28, 2023 01:32 PM (ZBPE2)

Kind of like Odd Job selling cough syrup. And he had a badass hat, man!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at February 28, 2023 01:38 PM (wtvvX)

204 "The premise that the KGB is funding assassinations via the pirate gold it found on a sunken pirate treasure ship"

You know the FBI did steal a bunch of Civil War gold from the guy who found it.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 28, 2023 01:38 PM (Y5qcH)

205 TLDR*

Anyway, remember Carol Bouquet in For Your Eyes Only? I do.

* I'm sure I'll read the post at some point

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 28, 2023 01:38 PM (fs1hN)

206 The only romance novels which I have read are a few by Barbara Cartland and Georgette Heyer which are not bodice rippers.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 28, 2023 01:38 PM (FUVRY)

207 >>lots of big nasty reveals.

Using a dental drill doesn't make one a dentist.

Posted by: ZOD at February 28, 2023 01:38 PM (78TBs)

208 I can't tell you how many times I've heard a black person in the south say "Ah'm tard" for "I'm tired."

Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 01:34 PM (mR6Gs)


i gots my basco sauce in my purse. -Hillary from the hood.

Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2023 01:38 PM (gmo/4)

209 and dug up and stole the human remains of Native Americans from their graves.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 28, 2023 01:35 PM (2tUFv)

Wait, why was he exhuming corpses?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 28, 2023 01:38 PM (eYoxG)

210 Yknow, the Fletch series of books were quite heavily focused on the boobular dimensions and variety of shapes of its lovely female characters.

Not that I'm complaining, mind you, but if one wanted to get hysterical on behalf of "sensitive" panty-wasted readers over writing that panders to male brain wiring under the banner of misogyny, here you go.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 28, 2023 01:39 PM (4I/2K)

211 Still, James Bond is really a male adventure series anyway.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:37 PM (zZu0s)

And THAT'S the real problem these blue noses have with it

Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 01:39 PM (mR6Gs)

212 What has been dismissed, ignored, or overlooked until the last few years by both Portland Audubon and the larger Audubon community is the fact that John James Audubon enslaved and sold Black people, opposed the abolition of slavery, and dug up and stole the human remains of Native Americans from their graves.
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They could have just said he was a Democrat.

Posted by: ... at February 28, 2023 01:39 PM (axhr1)

213 Wait til they hear about The Bible.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at February 28, 2023 01:39 PM (CwhoI)

214 >>146 The Gope doesn't have the votes to impeach Mayorkas.

My shocked face 0_0

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 28, 2023 01:39 PM (E+05M)

215 And Raise the Titanic was insane, but the music was good and I always liked ... Richard(?) Jordan, the guy from Lynch's Dune, Logan's Run and Hunt for Red October.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:39 PM (zZu0s)

216 i'm trying to think of a spy book that will change your mind.

Marathon Man is a thriller about an everyman caught up in a nasty spy plot. It's super-cynical with lots of big nasty reveals.

I know everyone's seen the movie so maybe this isn't a good recommend.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023


***
Fleming's Moonraker and From Russia With Love are both excellent reads, the latter especially. And there is a thriller from the '40s by Eric Ambler, Journey Into Fear, which involves an non-spy, a English engineer, caught unwillingly in a spy plot that threatens his life. Good stuff.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 01:39 PM (J2vNu)

217 Having recently watched the old Bond movies for the first time recently, I found them to be quite hilarious. Dude was a walking hard-on who occasionally did some spy stuff.

Mark Steyn noted that one of the main writers for the Bond series had worked on the "Carry On..." series, which was a series of British sex farces without any actual sex.

A lot of that spirit found its way into the Bond series.

I watched the first three Bond movies, which retrospectively got MPAA ratings at some point.

They are all PG.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 28, 2023 01:39 PM (2tUFv)

218 Anyway, remember Carol Bouquet in For Your Eyes Only? I do.
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She's one of my favorite Bond Girls.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 28, 2023 01:40 PM (2hlEI)

219
Fixed it for you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I used executed because I figured the bum had "disrespected" the black guy, and that seems to be a major driver of black culture and interaction.

Posted by: DOE confirms our patented COVID bioweapon was lab-created, released by China at February 28, 2023 01:40 PM (bWYk2)

220 No more details of ugly Chinese-negroes?
Doctor No and his Jamaican Chinese henchmen, who Fleming calls "Chinese Negroes" or the "Chigroes."

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at February 28, 2023 01:41 PM (KXsGl)

221 Let's see....

Cate Archer from the first game
https://tinyurl.com/jf7fr7pb

And from the sequel:
https://tinyurl.com/3bebuwhj

It fully embraced the campy spy genre, with mimes, midgets, Scotsmen, Ninjas as villains.

Posted by: Grimmy at February 28, 2023 01:41 PM (JCZqz)

222 Chris Cornell (from Soundgarden) - You Know My Name.
The best Bond movie theme song.


I never heard the song, but Cornell has awesome pipes so I agree

Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2023 01:41 PM (dCxaZ)

223 Ian Fleming said Pussy.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 28, 2023 01:41 PM (Y5qcH)

224 Paperbacks are Forever.

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 28, 2023 01:28 PM (OTXUv)

Wellllllllllllll

Posted by: Fahrenheit 451 at February 28, 2023 01:41 PM (axhr1)

225 Portland Audubon’s board voted in January to move away from the name Audubon. In order to best achieve our mission as an organization committed to racial equity and the environment, we cannot continue to condone bearing a name that celebrates a slaveholder who embraced white supremacist systems.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 28, 2023 01:35 PM (2tUFv)


This is like Project Veritas shitcanning James O'Keefe. Good luck with the future fundraising, losers.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 28, 2023 01:41 PM (guGkK)

226 I liked "Our Man in Havana". That was a fun spy story.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 28, 2023 01:41 PM (/EuRN)

227 shirley Bassey -- Goldfinger

Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2023 01:41 PM (dCxaZ)

228 212 What has been dismissed, ignored, or overlooked until the last few years by both Portland Audubon and the larger Audubon community is the fact that John James Audubon enslaved and sold Black people, opposed the abolition of slavery, and dug up and stole the human remains of Native Americans from their graves.
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They could have just said he was a Democrat.
Posted by: ... at February 28, 2023 01:39 PM (axhr1)

The thing is NO ONE knew this about him and did not associate his name with slavery. So I guess it's their duty to "raise awareness" about his sins?

Posted by: Iris at February 28, 2023 01:41 PM (NaH5I)

229 Remember: This is all done not for the people who read or watch Bond-- it's because those people enjoy it and that is a sin.

They must be punished and made to hate it.

The one permissible happiness is for the success of the Party.

These are people who look upon the 100 million skeletons rendered by communism and say, "we should try that again, this time with me in charge."
It's not the genocide that bothers them, it's that they weren't in charge.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 28, 2023 01:41 PM (z5L8c)

230 >>nd there is a thriller from the '40s by Eric Ambler, Journey Into Fear, which involves an non-spy, a English engineer, caught unwillingly in a spy plot that threatens his life. Good stuff.

i've had eric ambler recommended to me since high school and I never read him. I may *finally* do so. I have increasingly favored the amateurs-caught-in-the-game kind of stories.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (C1Zwz)

231 226 I liked "Our Man in Havana". That was a fun spy story.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 28, 2023 01:41 PM (/EuRN)

========

I know someone around here who hates Graham Greene with a passion.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (LvTSG)

232 Holly Goodhead or Pussy Galore?

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (MFZ8i)

233 I can't believe we aren't having a Bond Girl war.


Jill St.John.

Posted by: eleven at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (iziT8)

234 Anyway, remember Carol Bouquet in For Your Eyes Only? I do.

An actor ahead of their time, the first tranny bond girl

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (0hOvj)

235 or wait, I may have read three coffins for demetrius, was that ambler? I'm not sure I finished that, though. I barely remember that. can't remember if I read it or not.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (C1Zwz)

236 230 i've had eric ambler recommended to me since high school and I never read him. I may *finally* do so. I have increasingly favored the amateurs-caught-in-the-game kind of stories.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (C1Zwz)

==========

"It could have potential..."
-Alfred Hitchcock

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (LvTSG)

237 191 There was a game series with a femme fatale secret agent... No One Lives Forever(?)

It was good.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:32 PM

Cate Archer, the Operative. In the No One Lives Forever 2 box, you also got a CD with music inspired by the game, era and genre. Good times.
Posted by: Grimmy at February 28, 2023 01:36 PM (JCZqz)

Big +1

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (lEVn+)

238 Wait, why was he exhuming corpses?

Research, perhaps?

A lot of universities did that - it wasn't until recently that digging up centuries-old corpses for research was deemed Evil (but only American Indians - you can still dig up European graves without a problem).

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (2tUFv)

239 Holly Goodhead or Pussy Galore?

--

Truly Scrumptious

Posted by: DOE confirms our patented COVID bioweapon was lab-created, released by China at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (bWYk2)

240 I never heard the song, but Cornell has awesome pipes so I agree
Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2023 01:41 PM (dCxaZ)


https://youtu.be/HlQsC-o2y5c

Enjoy!

Posted by: Doof at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (6uyrZ)

241 Wait until they get to the Stainless Steel Rat

Posted by: GanGanowicz at February 28, 2023 01:43 PM (AxRGS)

242 i've had eric ambler recommended to me since high school and I never read him. I may *finally* do so. I have increasingly favored the amateurs-caught-in-the-game kind of stories.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (C1Zwz)

You were a big Don Knotts fan, weren't you?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:43 PM (zZu0s)

243 >>>Anyway, remember Carol Bouquet in For Your Eyes Only? I do.

Great eyes, but Topol had larger breasts.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at February 28, 2023 01:43 PM (CwhoI)

244 >>226 I liked "Our Man in Havana". That was a fun spy story. Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 28, 2023 01:41 PM (/EuRN)

Yep, one of the many fine Graham Greene books.

Posted by: ZOD at February 28, 2023 01:43 PM (78TBs)

245 "Our Man Flint" followed by "In Like Flint".

Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2023 01:43 PM (gmo/4)

246 Charlie Sykes interview with Paul Ryan....fun quotes: Paul Ryan, Fox News, and the Future of the GOP

Sykes: ...Tucker Carlson spreading the Great Replacement theory about race, some of the rawest racism we have in American culture. We had disinformation about the pandemic, we had an ongoing revision of January 6, actually undermining democracy...you are on the board of directors of a company that is pumping toxic sludge, racism, disinformation, and attacks on democracy, if you don't stand up now, then when?

Ryan I'm a classical liberal, constitutional, limited government, free enterprise conservative, a Jack Kemp-Ronald Reagan conservative...this screed you just made on Fox — I think that was probably just Tucker. I can go four times as long about voices that are being heard on Fox News that are...giving voice to what I would call proper conservatism properly understood.

Ryan on Jan 6 It was awful. I mean, it was terrible. It was an insurrection, it was violence. Trump is to blame. He should be held accountable for it, at least politically speaking. We should castigate it...and condemn the heck out of it.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at February 28, 2023 01:43 PM (JCZqz)

247 213 Wait til they hear about The Bible.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at February 28, 2023 01:39 PM (CwhoI)

Put a rainbow cover on it and tell the censors it has sex, murder, incest, and torture in it. They'll make it required reading.

Posted by: NJ Class Traitor at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (+aI/4)

248 Southern California home sales fall to all-time low
The region's housing slump continued through January, with home sales down 43% and prices falling below year-ago levels for the first time in almost four years.


It moved.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (E+05M)

249 "It could have potential..."
-Alfred Hitchcock
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (LvTSG)

Heh.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (zZu0s)

250 s the fact that John James Audubon enslaved and sold Black people, opposed the abolition of slavery,

Charles Darwin one of the gods in the pantheon of Marxist religion , was straight up White Supremacist

Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (dCxaZ)

251 I have increasingly favored the amateurs-caught-in-the-game kind of stories.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (C1Zwz)

Check out Skooby-Doo.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (Y5qcH)

252 I read all of the Fleming Bond novels and most of the Gardner novels courtesy of a few libraries. For stuff written in the Fifties and Sixties they are high-tech, suspenseful, knowledgeable about the Cold War, and talked about some wild scenarios that could happen. Mostly. Didn't care, it was all fun. The original Bond was a pre-WW II prep schoolboy who served in the Navy and was part of the Special Boat Service, which was later folded into the Special Air Service. Although a proper British gent, he was also a cold-hearted veteran who saw his job as taking out the trash before they caused trouble. That it also made him
a sexy alpha male that rang every babe's bell was a bonus advantage. That's why the ending to On Her Majesty's Secret Service is such a gut punch; Mister Smooth Player finally actually fell in love, but the job wouldn't let him keep her.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (W+kMI)

253 I have increasingly favored the amateurs-caught-in-the-game kind of stories.

British author John Buchan wrote a ton of those stories. They're old and often terribly British but most of them are quite good. He wrote The 39 Steps, for example.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (0hOvj)

254 I'll agree that Fleming overdid the use of black dialect, but it was pretty accurate in sound. I can't tell you how many times I've heard a black person in the south say "Ah'm tard" for "I'm tired."
*
Fleming lived on an estate in Jamaica and had servants
Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023


***
Well, he went there (Goldeneye) every winter to write the latest book in the series. Did he own the place? He did live in England for a good part of the year.

He did fall down on American speech in one novel, where he has a cab driver ally of Bond's (a pretty smart fellow) use "daft" to describe a crazy guy. An American cabbie might have said "daffy," but not "daft."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (J2vNu)

255 I read old books.
I'd rather read from old authors who helped create civilization, than new authors intent on destroying it.
(horde authors excluded of course)

Posted by: Diogenes at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (anj39)

256 248 Southern California home sales fall to all-time low
The region's housing slump continued through January, with home sales down 43% and prices falling below year-ago levels for the first time in almost four years.


It moved.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (E+05M)

==========

*selectively uses rental prices in best neighborhood in San Francisco*
-Joe Xiden

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (LvTSG)

257 I'm judging a mock trial for the NYSBA.

The case involves a plaintiff who is a recovered alcoholic. There are big loud trigger warnings all over the materials


Ok, here's the pitch for my new reality show: We video newly sworn-in lawyers their first week on the job, and see how they react when exposed to the real, no trigger warning world for the first time. From "bad words" to interviews with sadistic rapists/murderers to the mundane "shot him in the face because he dissed me"

Gold, Jerry. Gold!

Posted by: Chuck C at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (xttsV)

258 243 >>>Anyway, remember Carol Bouquet in For Your Eyes Only? I do.

Great eyes, but Topol had larger breasts.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at February 28, 2023 01:43 PM (CwhoI)

*golfclap*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (zZu0s)

259 An actor ahead of their time, the first tranny bond girl
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (0hOvj)
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No, she wasn't.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 28, 2023 01:45 PM (2hlEI)

260 Secret Agent Super Dragon

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 28, 2023 01:45 PM (63Dwl)

261 Wait until they get to the Stainless Steel Rat
Posted by: GanGanowicz at February 28, 2023 01:43 PM (AxRGS)
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Ah, Slippery Jim DiGriz...He never came across as "racist" to me, though he did have some interesting attitudes about women. Most of those were corrected by his wife, Angelina, after she had her antisocial impulses toned down a bit.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 28, 2023 01:45 PM (YIVH2)

262 The Hitman series has been pushing the same buttons, as far as a game is able to. Beautiful locations and dry humor.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 28, 2023 01:45 PM (44ww/)

263 Charles Darwin one of the gods in the pantheon of Marxist religion , was straight up White Supremacist
Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (dCxaZ)


Margaret Sanger too. Notice a pattern?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 28, 2023 01:45 PM (guGkK)

264 Meanwhile, books for kindergarteners about sodomy - stunning and brave.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at February 28, 2023 01:45 PM (CwhoI)

265 So when do we get to torch these cunts with our flamethrowers?

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 28, 2023 01:45 PM (OTXUv)

266 Chekov's Axe.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:36 PM (zZu0s)


Yes! Exactly.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 28, 2023 01:45 PM (KLPy8)

267 The thing is NO ONE knew this about him and did not associate his name with slavery. So I guess it's their duty to "raise awareness" about his sins?

When people hear the word "Benning" - nobody associates that word with the Confederate general, everybody associates it with the Army base.

No matter - the name of the base has to be changed anyway.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 28, 2023 01:46 PM (2tUFv)

268 Oh, and after the Cold War ended the newest generation of SPECTRE decided to hide in the open. It's called the World Economic Federation.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 28, 2023 01:46 PM (W+kMI)

269 That was done back in the 40s, prior to the first American printing, I think. And in all honesty, I would feel extremely uncomfortable buying it with the original title (even though it is one of the best mystery novels ever, in my opinion).
Posted by: Dr. T at February 28, 2023 01:28 PM (jO0xw)

Totally agree...and thats why I didn't buy it. I think the original American printing was called Ten Little Indians. My mom had that version. Not sure why they wanted to change it to Ten Little Soldiers. It's not like Indian is an unacceptable term.

Posted by: Mishdog at February 28, 2023 01:46 PM (tYUMT)

270 266 Chekov's Axe.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:36 PM (zZu0s)

Yes! Exactly.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 28, 2023 01:45 PM (KLPy

We're triggered.

Posted by: The Cherry Orchard at February 28, 2023 01:46 PM (/EuRN)

271 "It was really dated and, to be honest, cheesy. But in the sixties it was everything."

In like Flint. I saw it a couple of months ago and damn if the cheese factor was over the top.
I loved it!

Posted by: Bosk at February 28, 2023 01:46 PM (ZVuYy)

272 The original Bond was a pre-WW II prep schoolboy who served in the Navy and was part of the Special Boat Service, which was later folded into the Special Air Service. . . .
Posted by: exdem13 at February 28, 2023


***
John Pearson's Authorized Biography of 007 is one hell of a lot of fun. I don't recall the Special Boat Service part; Bond was Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve (RNVR), though according to Pearson he did see duty on a destroyer.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 01:46 PM (J2vNu)

273 So much for 60s macho going down the toilet
Posted by: Skip

I hope they have heat where you're at.

Posted by: JT at February 28, 2023 01:47 PM (T4tVD)

274 It's not like Indian is an unacceptable term.

Posted by: Mishdog at February 28, 2023 01:46 PM (tYUMT)

Really?

Posted by: The Cleveland "Guardians" at February 28, 2023 01:47 PM (axhr1)

275 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 28, 2023 01:47 PM (T4tVD)

276 Elric - I refuse to participate in mock trial programs because they encourage young people to become attorneys, and I don't want to be a part of that.

Posted by: PabloD at February 28, 2023 01:47 PM (rUSNJ)

277 Dr. No had Quarrel freeze when he saw a tank with a flamethrower. Got scared thinking it was some kind of monster. Not necessarily the best treatment of an black man but not racist

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 28, 2023 01:47 PM (GyDc1)

278 Oh, and after the Cold War ended the newest generation of SPECTRE decided to hide in the open. It's called the World Economic Federation.
Posted by: exdem13 at February 28, 2023


***
Hmph. Parvenus. Johnny-come-latelies.

Posted by: Thrush Supreme Council at February 28, 2023 01:47 PM (J2vNu)

279 Having recently watched the old Bond movies for the first time recently, I found them to be quite hilarious. Dude was a walking hard-on who occasionally did some spy stuff.

Mostly I remember needing an energy drink to not fall asleep watching Thunderball. The pacing on the early Connery movies was never ideal, but that one is really something.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 28, 2023 01:48 PM (ZGrMX)

280 Do I have to pretend i'm 1/1024th Guardian now?

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at February 28, 2023 01:48 PM (/EuRN)

281 240 I never heard the song, but Cornell has awesome pipes so I agree
Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2023 01:41 PM (dCxaZ)

https://youtu.be/HlQsC-o2y5c

Enjoy!

Posted by: Doof at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (6uyrZ)


I enjoyed the song even more after I looked up the lyrics. I could not get a lot of the words by listening.

https://tinyurl.com/5685xn7v

Posted by: Gref at February 28, 2023 01:48 PM (AMIL/)

282 Charles Darwin one of the gods in the pantheon of Marxist religion , was straight up White Supremacist
Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (dCxaZ)

I used to trick lefties into looking up the full title of On the Origin of Species. Funny how they never knew they had such a hardon for science and didn't even know the title of his book.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 28, 2023 01:48 PM (Y5qcH)

283 Really? Posted by: The Cleveland "Guardians"

Our local Indianapolis Indians AAA team got approval from the Miami tribe to continue using the name.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at February 28, 2023 01:48 PM (CwhoI)

284 I used executed because I figured the bum had "disrespected" the black guy, and that seems to be a major driver of black culture and interaction.
Posted by: DOE confirms our patented COVID bioweapon was lab-created, released by China at February 28, 2023 01:40 PM (bWYk2)

Well I figure that, lawfully, only a duly-constituted court can order a person to be put to death. An extrajudicial killing such as you describe is murder, plain and simple.

Some murders could be considered justifiable homicides.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 28, 2023 01:48 PM (tkR6S)

285 >> Dr. No had Quarrel freeze when he saw a tank with a flamethrower. Got scared thinking it was some kind of monster. Not necessarily the best treatment of an black man but not racist

I mean, the island had a longstanding reputation of being the home of a dragon and the locals believed it, so....

Honeychild was white and i'm pretty sure she believed the same hokum.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:48 PM (C1Zwz)

286 Related: Been rewatching early seasons of Archer.

Forgot how tight the writing is, especially in the early seasons. The amount of snipes and quick bits that are almost hidden in each episode is astounding.

Writing for that show must've been a real bitch.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 28, 2023 01:48 PM (KbCG3)

287 The 60's seem like a lifetime ago...


... oh, wait.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 28, 2023 01:49 PM (Q4IgG)

288 Charles Darwin one of the gods in the pantheon of Marxist religion , was straight up White Supremacist
Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (dCxaZ)

On the Origin of Species.......

...and the Preservation of Favored Races??????

But the Left will tell you, when you find out about their hidden title, that he didn't mean race like we do now. He meant the human race or some shit.

They are demons.

Posted by: The Cleveland at February 28, 2023 01:49 PM (axhr1)

289 I read old books.
I'd rather read from old authors who helped create civilization, than new authors intent on destroying it.
(horde authors excluded of course)
Posted by: Diogenes at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (anj39)

This^^^

Old books (generally, YMMV) come with the added benefit that if they've already been around for 100 years, time has already sifted the wheat from the chaff for you. Most writers/publishers/movie studios aim for relevant, not timeless.

Posted by: NJ Class Traitor at February 28, 2023 01:49 PM (+aI/4)

290 "You Know My Name" is in the top 3 bond themes for me, yeah. The James Bond Theme (the instrumental) is number one though.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2023 01:49 PM (0hOvj)

291 Dr. No had Quarrel freeze when he saw a tank with a flamethrower. Got scared thinking it was some kind of monster. Not necessarily the best treatment of an black man but not racist
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 28, 2023


***
In fairness, the diesel tank had been dressed up like a dragon specifically to frighten. And Bond was not frightened of that -- but when his bullets failed to blow out the thing's tires, suggesting they were solid rubber, "The first breath of fear stirred Bond's skin."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 01:49 PM (J2vNu)

292 (looks at "Song of the South" on office bookshelf/commits thoughtcrime).
Posted by: ZOD at February 28, 2023 01:20 PM (78TBs)

Did you buy that from overseas? Or do you have one of the original releases? I have long thought about adding it to my collection too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:24 PM (lEVn+)

------------

There's a nicely-restored version here (Internet Archive website). Available for viewing and download.

https://archive.org/details/SongOfTheSouthHD

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at February 28, 2023 01:50 PM (V66kM)

293 You talk like fags, and your shit is all retarded. Court is adjourned.

Posted by: Mock Trial Judge at February 28, 2023 01:50 PM (Y5qcH)

294
But I guess they kind of had to make Bond something besides Canadian, like Stephenson. But they should have made him American. That's closer to Canadian than British is.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 28, 2023 01:50 PM (oINRc)

295 Writing for that show must've been a real bitch.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 28, 2023 01:48 PM (KbCG3)

"Et tu, Brute?"

"Et me, buddy."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 28, 2023 01:50 PM (/EuRN)

296 >>>Mostly I remember needing an energy drink to not fall asleep watching Thunderball. The pacing on the early Connery movies was never ideal, but that one is really something.

so I noticed how boring that was when I got friends to watch it with me, and felt Social Shame at having gotten them to watch a boring movie.

However, I rewatched it alone recently, *expecting* it to be boring, and found it snappier than I expected.

Expectations!

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:50 PM (C1Zwz)

297 Chris Cornell (from Soundgarden) - You Know My Name.
The best Bond movie theme song.
Fight me.


*Dame Shirley Bassey has entered the chat*

Posted by: Ian S. at February 28, 2023 01:51 PM (ZGrMX)

298 No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to edit.

"No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to D.I.E."

Posted by: Chuck C at February 28, 2023 01:51 PM (xttsV)

299 On the Origin of Species.......

...and the Preservation of Favored Races??????


Yeah I got into an argument with some lame leftist twits on Twitter years ago over how the Nazis were huge Darwinists and used that to justify their racism. They were enraged I might suggest that, and said it was all false.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2023 01:51 PM (0hOvj)

300 250 s the fact that John James Audubon enslaved and sold Black people, opposed the abolition of slavery,

Charles Darwin one of the gods in the pantheon of Marxist religion , was straight up White Supremacist
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Of course Darwin was white supremicist, most of Great Britain was white supremacist in Vicky's time. They developed that attitude by exercising supremacy over the British Empire, which spanned the globe and had many subjects that were not white, and held in an inferior status. If the Brits hadn't bled out their imperial lifeblood in Flanders, twice, the Empire would still be in place today and the supremacist outlook would still be in place, unquestioned outside of Liberal Party circles.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 28, 2023 01:51 PM (W+kMI)

301 Having recently watched the old Bond movies for the first time recently, I found them to be quite hilarious. Dude was a walking hard-on who occasionally did some spy stuff.

***
Not so much in the first 2 Connery films. Goldfinger brought in the tongue-in-cheek element, and that was the pattern for a long time.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 01:51 PM (J2vNu)

302 299 Yeah I got into an argument with some lame leftist twits on Twitter years ago over how the Nazis were huge Darwinists and used that to justify their racism. They were enraged I might suggest that, and said it was all false.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2023 01:51 PM (0hOvj)

=========

They were also small government libertarians.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:52 PM (LvTSG)

303 The Catholic Church in Ireland has opened its doors for Muslim prayers and will even blast the azan on loudspeakers. You don't even see this happening in churches in Muslim-majority countries.

No comment.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 28, 2023 01:52 PM (2tUFv)

304 I enjoyed the song even more after I looked up the lyrics. I could not get a lot of the words by listening.

https://tinyurl.com/5685xn7v
Posted by: Gref at February 28, 2023 01:48 PM (AMIL/)


That's a great approach for a lot of music.

Posted by: Doof at February 28, 2023 01:52 PM (6uyrZ)

305 The real James Bond was an ornithologist. He wrote a field guide of birds that Fleming saw. Fleming liked the name and gave it to his character.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 28, 2023 01:52 PM (DSB5h)

306 Right, Caroline Bouquet was not the tranny, it was Caroline Cosset (one of the girls at the pool party).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2023 01:52 PM (0hOvj)

307 Xenia Onatopp or Honey Ryder?

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at February 28, 2023 01:52 PM (MFZ8i)

308 163 Now I have the For Your Eyes Only theme ear worm going.
I guess it could be worse.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 28, 2023 01:33 PM (anj39)

#metoo

Posted by: m at February 28, 2023 01:53 PM (syBNd)

309 Yeah I got into an argument with some lame leftist twits on Twitter years ago over how the Nazis were huge Darwinists and used that to justify their racism. They were enraged I might suggest that, and said it was all false.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2023 01:51 PM (0hOvj)

A large part of Poland was being cleared of people and civilization to create a national forest for the Nazis.

Posted by: Mock Trial Judge at February 28, 2023 01:53 PM (Y5qcH)

310 303 The Catholic Church in Ireland has opened its doors for Muslim prayers and will even blast the azan on loudspeakers. You don't even see this happening in churches in Muslim-majority countries.

No comment.
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Cheap Labor is remarkably expensive for the proles.

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 28, 2023 01:53 PM (OTXUv)

311 I know someone around here who hates Graham Greene with a passion.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (LvTSG)

*raises hand*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:54 PM (lEVn+)

312 311 I know someone around here who hates Graham Greene with a passion.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (LvTSG)

*raises hand*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:54 PM (lEVn+)

=========

You are not a man for passionless hatred.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

313 Why should I give a shit if they want to tear down statues of Democrats?

Instead of defending the forefathers of our woke wannabe slaveholder enemies, maybe we should be pointing out the connection as often as possible.

Instead we fall into the trap because we want to naturally "conserve" things. Maybe we should be going after statues of their precious Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Robert Byrd and LBJ. See what they say.

Posted by: ... at February 28, 2023 01:54 PM (axhr1)

314 >>>Now I have the For Your Eyes Only theme ear worm going.

Ahh, Sheena Easton...

Posted by: Citizen Cake at February 28, 2023 01:54 PM (CwhoI)

315 i've had eric ambler recommended to me since high school and I never read him. I may *finally* do so. I have increasingly favored the amateurs-caught-in-the-game kind of stories.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023


***
Ace, I mentioned his Journey Into Fear up above. It's just that kind of story.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 01:54 PM (J2vNu)

316 The Catholic Church in Ireland has opened its doors for Muslim prayers and will even blast the azan on loudspeakers. You don't even see this happening in churches in Muslim-majority countries.

...

Jeepers.

Posted by: Hagia Sophia at February 28, 2023 01:55 PM (z/ifB)

317 Of course Darwin was white supremacist, most of Great Britain was white supremacist in Vicky's time. They developed that attitude by exercising supremacy over the British Empire, which spanned the globe

I mean... based on their experiences and accomplishments, it made sense. Without Christianity shaping your worldview, its gonna look like James Caldwell, gentleman explorer, is plainly superior to the Ubangi guy with a plate in his lip living in the dirt.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2023 01:55 PM (0hOvj)

318 https://tinyurl.com/4wjw9h53

Odd side note: the commercial for this was a young woman with a dog at a computer. She had the headset and was obviously supposed to be a 'gamer' 'slaying out'.

She never touched the mouse. Maybe she was playing one of them MUDs.

Who are these fucking people?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:55 PM (zZu0s)

319 christopher, I watched a couple of versions of the 39 steps and I know the book is not the movie but the movie versions aren't a good calling card. I guess that's sort of a dumb thing to say. I didn't like them, though.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:55 PM (C1Zwz)

320 312 311 I know someone around here who hates Graham Greene with a passion.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (LvTSG)

*raises hand*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:54 PM (lEVn+)

=========

You are not a man for passionless hatred.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

My hate does have heat

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:55 PM (lEVn+)

321 >>The Catholic Church in Ireland has opened its doors for Muslim prayers...

Drunken mackerel snappers.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 28, 2023 01:55 PM (E+05M)

322 The only good news is that supposedly these editions will be published in parallel to the real Fleming books, and will not replace them.

"Well, you can buy the approved, modern acceptable version for $1.99. If you want the bad, MAGA version, that's $186.99"

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 28, 2023 01:55 PM (NFbv3)

323
Our local Indianapolis Indians AAA team got approval from the Miami tribe to continue using the name.
Posted by: Citizen Cake


Otherwise we might have had to change the name of the city AND the state!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 28, 2023 01:56 PM (63Dwl)

324 319 christopher, I watched a couple of versions of the 39 steps and I know the book is not the movie but the movie versions aren't a good calling card. I guess that's sort of a dumb thing to say. I didn't like them, though.
Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:55 PM (C1Zwz)

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Didn't like the Hitchcock version, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:56 PM (LvTSG)

325 >>>Ace, I mentioned his Journey Into Fear up above. It's just that kind of story.

right, sorry, I intended that response to be to your post. I meant to say, I might finally read him on your recommendation.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:56 PM (C1Zwz)

326 Piers Anthony is right out.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 28, 2023 01:56 PM (4I/2K)

327 My favorite Bond movie is "On Xer Majesty's Secret Xervix"

Posted by: MikeG at February 28, 2023 01:56 PM (VsUo2)

328 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2647420/

Play this til they run out of tears.

Posted by: DaveA at February 28, 2023 01:56 PM (FhXTo)

329 Fleming liked the name and gave it to his character.

He liked the name because it was so bland and forgettable, its like John Smith. It was so nothing British and unremarkable Fleming thought it was perfect for a spy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2023 01:56 PM (0hOvj)

330 No Mr. Bond, I expect you to DEI.

Posted by: Flatville Bill at February 28, 2023 01:56 PM (3Zprt)

331 They were also small government libertarians.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:52 PM (LvTSG)

That's interesting. *Eyeroll* guess there's another thing to research about how it can be abused.

Posted by: Iris at February 28, 2023 01:56 PM (NaH5I)

332 Goldfinger brought in the tongue-in-cheek element, and that was the pattern for a long time.

Also Connery pronouncing "Pussy" as "Poo-see" will never get old.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 28, 2023 01:57 PM (ZGrMX)

333 >>>Didn't like the Hitchcock version, huh?

didn't he do two versions? I mean, they were "of their time," I guess. They seemed unsophisticated, plot-wise. I don't know if I could get into a book with the same general air.

Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:57 PM (C1Zwz)

334 The real James Bond was an ornithologist. He wrote a field guide of birds that Fleming saw. Fleming liked the name and gave it to his character.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 28, 2023


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Yes; IF wanted a plain name, nothing flashy.

I found out recently there was a real person named Goldfinger, an architect in Britain. He hated the idea of his name being used for a villain and wanted to sue. Fleming told him that was fine: "I'll just rename the character 'Goldprick'." The architect went away sulking.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 01:57 PM (J2vNu)

335 307 Xenia Onatopp or Honey Ryder?
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at February 28, 2023 01:52 PM (MFZ8i)

Onatop. Peak Famke Jaanson.

Don't get me wrong, but if I have to do the either or...

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 01:57 PM (zZu0s)

336 Of course Darwin was white supremacist, most of Great Britain was white supremacist in Vicky's time. They developed that attitude by exercising supremacy over the British Empire, which spanned the globe

I mean... based on their experiences and accomplishments, it made sense. Without Christianity shaping your worldview, its gonna look like James Caldwell, gentleman explorer, is plainly superior to the Ubangi guy with a plate in his lip living in the dirt.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2023 01:55 PM (0hOvj)

And not a massive leap from the concept of divine right to rule.

Posted by: TexasDan at February 28, 2023 01:57 PM (z/ifB)

337 >The Catholic Church in Ireland has opened its doors for Muslim prayers...
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They are giving up civilization for Lent

Posted by: ... at February 28, 2023 01:57 PM (axhr1)

338 It just never ends.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 28, 2023 01:57 PM (eBzcE)

339
Roselynn sat quietly in the corner, filling her glass from the now empty box of wine at her elbow.
Amy was at the foot of the bed grimacing.
"I don't understand" the doctor at the side of the bed uttered, "This morphine drip should have killed him a week ago."
A rabbit sat outside the window, looking in, and smiling.

Posted by: Auspex at February 28, 2023 01:58 PM (j4U/Z)

340 Dr. No had Quarrel freeze when he saw a tank with a flamethrower. Got scared thinking it was some kind of monster. Not necessarily the best treatment of an black man but not racist
Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 28, 2023 01:47 PM (GyDc1)

Well, the tank was dressed up to look like a dragon. And Dr. No had carefully cultivated the legend of a dragon roaming the island. An instance of a person seeing what he was propagandized into seeing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 28, 2023 01:58 PM (tkR6S)

341 321 >>The Catholic Church in Ireland has opened its doors for Muslim prayers...

Sounds like Ireland needs some Christian missionaries.

Posted by: Iris at February 28, 2023 01:58 PM (NaH5I)

342 Ahh, Sheena Easton...
Posted by: Citizen Cake at February 28, 2023 01:54 PM (CwhoI)


My younger pre-pubescent self did not immediately understand what she was singing about in her song "Sugar Walls".

Posted by: Doof at February 28, 2023 01:58 PM (6uyrZ)

343 I watched a couple of versions of the 39 steps and I know the book is not the movie but the movie versions aren't a good calling card

The Hitchcock version is pretty close to the book and its pretty standard Buchan, so probably not for you

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2023 01:58 PM (0hOvj)

344 He did fall down on American speech in one novel, where he has a cab driver ally of Bond's (a pretty smart fellow) use "daft" to describe a crazy guy. An American cabbie might have said "daffy," but not "daft."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 01:44 PM (J2vNu)

We know how Tarentino would have directed that scene.

Posted by: mrp at February 28, 2023 01:58 PM (rj6Yv)

345 333 >>>Didn't like the Hitchcock version, huh?

didn't he do two versions? I mean, they were "of their time," I guess. They seemed unsophisticated, plot-wise. I don't know if I could get into a book with the same general air.
Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023 01:57 PM (C1Zwz)

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He did two versions of The Man Who Knew Too Much (I prefer the earlier one with Peter Lorre), but only one version of The 39 Steps in his English period before he went to Hollywood. It starred Robert Donat.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:58 PM (LvTSG)

346 Lana Wood as Plenty O' Toole.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 28, 2023 01:58 PM (4I/2K)

347 100% demoralization 100% of the time.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 28, 2023 01:58 PM (eBzcE)

348 Ace, I mentioned his Journey Into Fear up above. It's just that kind of story.
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right, sorry, I intended that response to be to your post. I meant to say, I might finally read him on your recommendation.
Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023


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I'm flattered! I read it long ago when I was in high school and found it very suspenseful. I've read his famous A Coffin for Dimitrios and don't recall much about it, though.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 01:59 PM (J2vNu)

349 286 Related: Been rewatching early seasons of Archer.

Forgot how tight the writing is, especially in the early seasons. The amount of snipes and quick bits that are almost hidden in each episode is astounding.

Writing for that show must've been a real bitch.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 28, 2023 01:48 PM (KbCG3)

They just had one writer for the first several seasons, right?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 01:59 PM (lEVn+)

350 It was really dated and, to be honest, cheesy. But in the sixties it was everything."

In like Flint. I saw it a couple of months ago and damn if the cheese factor was over the top.
I loved it!
Posted by: Bosk at February 28, 2023 01:46 PM (ZVuYy)
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It's a spoof! Of course it's cheesy. Have you ever seen "I'm Gonna Get You Sucka?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2023 01:59 PM (YqDXo)

351 I'd love to see a James Bond book on a cabal of the rich and powerful that take over Western governments in a maniacal plot to destroy civilization to ave the planet.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 28, 2023 01:59 PM (cMXNt)

352 As the House of Representatives transitions to new leadership, former Speaker Nancy Pelosi still holds onto power behind the scenes, according to Politico.

After nearly two decades of power, Pelosi had to yield her speakership to Rep. Kevin McCarthy of California, but is still calling shots from the sidelines, Politico reported. Fellow House Democrats are conflicted on who to look to, finding it difficult to see the former speaker as a regular member of the caucus.

Posted by: SMOD at February 28, 2023 02:00 PM (RHGPo)

353 If I ever find myself in an argument with radical femprogs about Bond I would be hard pressed not to say to them in my best Connery "Hell Pussy", just to see the reaction

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 28, 2023 02:00 PM (GyDc1)

354 For good action, Alistair MacLean was pretty good.

He wasn't good at writing women, though. So not too much dwelling on the female figure, though he did mention a teen girl having to sew herself into her jeans at one point, because they were too tight.

Posted by: GanGanowicz at February 28, 2023 02:00 PM (AxRGS)

355 351 I'd love to see a James Bond book on a cabal of the rich and powerful that take over Western governments in a maniacal plot to destroy civilization to ave the planet.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 28, 2023 01:59 PM (cMXNt)

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There was the plot of SPECTRE where the governments of the world were conspiring together to create an all-encompassing spy network called Nine Eyes.

That was pretty topical.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 02:00 PM (LvTSG)

356 Good.

The Left destroys everything it touches, but not before using it as a skin suit. They have picked all the low-hanging fruit already, and are now going after things where it won't work. The sooner they wreck it, they sooner they can lose money on it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 28, 2023 02:00 PM (t0OGg)

357 Lois Chilies as Dr Goodhead.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 02:00 PM (zZu0s)

358 Everybody everywhere is losing their shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 28, 2023 02:00 PM (r1ZRd)

359 343 I watched a couple of versions of the 39 steps and I know the book is not the movie but the movie versions aren't a good calling card

The Hitchcock version is pretty close to the book and its pretty standard Buchan, so probably not for you
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Read 'The Power House' and wonder why the Manhattan's chose 'Blackrock' to name their bond fund.

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 28, 2023 02:01 PM (OTXUv)

360 358 Everybody everywhere is losing their shit.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 28, 2023 02:00 PM (r1ZRd)

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All at once.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 02:01 PM (LvTSG)

361 Didn't like the Hitchcock version, huh?

didn't he do two versions? I mean, they were "of their time," I guess. They seemed unsophisticated, plot-wise. I don't know if I could get into a book with the same general air.
Posted by: ace at February 28, 2023


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There was a second version of 39 Steps made in the '50s with Kenneth More, the British actor who played an important officer on the Titanic in A Night to Remember, and later played Father Brown on TV. The More version I thought was lots of fun. When I hear the name Richard Hannay now, I picture Kenneth More.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 02:01 PM (J2vNu)

362 Miss Moneypenny is a Manchester rugby pub "6".

Posted by: Muldoon at February 28, 2023 02:01 PM (ykeLU)

363 Everybody everywhere is losing their shit.

Are they?

Or am I just losing my shit and the rest of the world is sane?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 28, 2023 02:01 PM (eBzcE)

364 362 Miss Moneypenny is a Manchester rugby pub "6".
Posted by: Muldoon at February 28, 2023 02:01 PM (ykeLU)

Hard disagree, Muldoon. The one in the Brosnan Bond films was smoking.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 02:02 PM (zZu0s)

365 Sheena Easton 30 Minute Workout

If you know, you know

Posted by: ... at February 28, 2023 02:02 PM (axhr1)

366 If I were a "sensitivity reader" assigned to Live and Let Die, I'd rewrite it to heavily feature pirate ships and voodoo, so as not to "trigger" all the readers who are expecting some f***ing pirate ships and voodoo action. As you can see, I am triggered to this very day.
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Pirates are okay - they're the Robin Hood of the high seas, taking from the rich white fat cats exploiting native people through mercantilst empire - but the voodoo is a no-no. Culturally insensitive, bro.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 28, 2023 02:02 PM (t0OGg)

367 Our local Indianapolis Indians AAA team got approval from the Miami tribe to continue using the name.
Posted by: Citizen Cake

Otherwise we might have had to change the name of the city AND the state!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 28, 2023 01:56 PM (63Dwl)
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Whereas India is still on the hook. As is Indonesia.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2023 02:02 PM (YqDXo)

368 Or am I just losing my shit and the rest of the world is sane?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 28, 2023 02:01 PM (eBzcE)

Not bloody likely

Posted by: ... at February 28, 2023 02:02 PM (axhr1)

369 272 The original Bond was a pre-WW II prep schoolboy who served in the Navy and was part of the Special Boat Service, which was later folded into the Special Air Service. . . .
Posted by: exdem13 at February 28, 2023

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John Pearson's Authorized Biography of 007 is one hell of a lot of fun. I don't recall the Special Boat Service part; Bond was Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve (RNVR), though according to Pearson he did see duty on a destroyer.
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I don't know where I picked up that factoid, it's been a while. Maybe it was from Gardner? I did always assume Bond had been a commando since Fleming gave him skills like that, and it's mentioned in Casino Royale that the European underground and clandestine action were things he knew well.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 28, 2023 02:02 PM (W+kMI)

370 Soon Brandon is going to be telling us stories of how he grew up in the Bathhouses of Scranton.

That's a fact, Jack.

Posted by: torabora at February 28, 2023 02:02 PM (ra48h)

371 Five Eyes has sidestepped any accountability for those governments spying on their own citizens.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 28, 2023 02:02 PM (44ww/)

372 Everybody everywhere is losing their shit.

Are they?

Or am I just losing my shit and the rest of the world is sane?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

If you see people losing their shit, you are the sane one.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 28, 2023 02:02 PM (+V+tv)

373 Here's a song about Graham Greene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_g_n_SxVgc

Posted by: naturalfake at February 28, 2023 02:02 PM (KLPy8)

374 Birders are weird.

It's not that they have to be. Bird-watching seems normalish enough. What gives?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 28, 2023 02:03 PM (ppBhU)

375 I’m Ian Fleming’s biographer – there’s no way James Bond can be made ‘PC’

https://bit.ly/3J2Xjut

Posted by: rickb223 at February 28, 2023 02:03 PM (+V+tv)

376 For good action, Alistair MacLean was pretty good.

He wasn't good at writing women, though. So not too much dwelling on the female figure, though he did mention a teen girl having to sew herself into her jeans at one point, because they were too tight.
Posted by: GanGanowicz at February 28, 2023 02:00 PM (AxRGS)

Ditto on that.

I've never watched a Bond movie all the way through and I've never read a Fleming book.

Posted by: N.Lurker at February 28, 2023 02:03 PM (eGTCV)

377 We know how Tarentino would have directed that scene.

It would have lasted half and hour and they would have discussed how the original Green Lantern's ring was vulnerable to wood.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2023 02:03 PM (0hOvj)

378 >>Everybody everywhere is losing their shit.


Tranq?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 28, 2023 02:04 PM (E+05M)

379 The Catholic Church in Ireland has opened its doors for Muslim prayers and will even blast the azan on loudspeakers. You don't even see this happening in churches in Muslim-majority countries.
____

Catholic Bishop "Look how tolerant and loving we are!"
Muslim Iman "We have one a great victory over the infidel"

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 28, 2023 02:04 PM (fs1hN)

380 304 I enjoyed the song even more after I looked up the lyrics. I could not get a lot of the words by listening.

https://tinyurl.com/5685xn7v
Posted by: Gref at February 28, 2023 01:48 PM (AMIL/)

That's a great approach for a lot of music.
Posted by: Doof at February 28, 2023 01:52 PM (6uyrZ)


It's a "must" for every song by Stevie Nicks.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 28, 2023 02:04 PM (BdMk6)

381 John Buchan's adventure stories were all pretty much WWI or earlier, I thought? The Richard Hannays, anyway, like 39 Steps? So their general air would be quite different from today's -- more like Sherlock Holmes than like James Bond.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 02:04 PM (J2vNu)

382 374 Birders are weird.

It's not that they have to be. Bird-watching seems normalish enough. What gives?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 28, 2023 02:03 PM (ppBhU)

It's just an excuse to always have a pair of binoculars. They really are just clever perverts.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 28, 2023 02:04 PM (Y5qcH)

383 Clive Owen would have been better than Daniel Craig.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 28, 2023 02:05 PM (44ww/)

384 Linda Kasabian, a member of Charles Manson’s murderous “Family” who later testified against her fellow cult members, has died at the age of 73

Posted by: SMOD at February 28, 2023 02:05 PM (RHGPo)

385 374 Birders are weird.

It's not that they have to be. Bird-watching seems normalish enough. What gives?
___

Steve Martin "The Big Year" 2011.
A movie about bird-watchers.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 28, 2023 02:06 PM (fs1hN)

386 374 Birders are weird.

It's not that they have to be. Bird-watching seems normalish enough. What gives?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at February 28, 2023 02:03 PM (ppBhU)

Christopher Wallace looks like a gay birder.

Posted by: N.Lurker at February 28, 2023 02:06 PM (eGTCV)

387 Lana Wood as Plenty O'Toole didn't get much more than a cameo in Diamond's Are Forever, but what a rack!

Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 02:06 PM (mR6Gs)

388 My favorite part about Bond movies. The hottie who was always trying to kill him. He'd bang her, then get rid of her.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 28, 2023 02:06 PM (oE0yX)

389
They should make me a sensitivity reader. I would change little in the books, except to add hundreds of pages of the most vile, obscene and offensive material I can possibly dream up, which is a lot, and some completely unveiled direct threats to the US government about my gas stove.

In "James and the Giant Feast," a rogue cadre of French and Italian chefs will eat the staff of the US Stove Department in a cozy café on the Med, for instance.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 28, 2023 02:06 PM (oINRc)

390 Clive Owen would have been better than Daniel Craig.

Absolutely, but the Broccolis wanted a Bourne clone.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2023 02:06 PM (0hOvj)

391 Soon Brandon is going to be telling us stories of how he grew up in the Bathhouses of Scranton.

That's a fact, Jack.
Posted by: torabora

Wilkes-Bare

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 28, 2023 02:07 PM (r1ZRd)

392 Muslim Iman "We have one a great victory over the infidel"
____

Other Muslim Iman, he meant to say "won" not "one"

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 28, 2023 02:07 PM (fs1hN)

393 I'm not saying Wallace watches gay birds.

Posted by: N.Lurker at February 28, 2023 02:07 PM (eGTCV)

394 >>384 Linda Kasabian, a member of Charles Manson’s murderous “Family” who later testified against her fellow cult members, has died at the age of 73
Posted by: SMOD

She was born and raised in Maine.

Casual observation: There are a lot of nutjobs from Maine.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 28, 2023 02:07 PM (E+05M)

395 Lana Wood as Plenty O'Toole didn't get much more than a cameo in Diamond's Are Forever, but what a rack!

Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 02:06 PM (mR6Gs)


Then that ass Robert Wagner murdered her.

Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2023 02:07 PM (gmo/4)

396 383 Clive Owen would have been better than Daniel Craig.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 28, 2023 02:05 PM (44ww/)

Nah, he's pretty low energy and a mope.
Bond needs to have charisma and physicality.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 02:07 PM (lEVn+)

397 393 I'm not saying Wallace watches gay birds.
Posted by: N.Lurker at February 28, 2023 02:07 PM (eGTCV)

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You saying he likes bird sticks? He likes bird sticks in his mouth?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 02:07 PM (LvTSG)

398 I don't know where I picked up that factoid, it's been a while. Maybe it was from Gardner? I did always assume Bond had been a commando since Fleming gave him skills like that, and it's mentioned in Casino Royale that the European underground and clandestine action were things he knew well.
Posted by: exdem13 at February 28, 2023


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According to Pearson (it's a great book; he really captures the tone of the Fleming stories), Bond had been recruited as an occasional messenger by the British Secret Service when he was 17 or 18, before WWII. He was tough and strong, seemed older, and spoke French and German, so he was perfect.

The "biography" (it's really a novel) fills us in on his family, how he got the scar on his face and came to own the pre-war Bentley (the 2 things were connected), and more.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 02:08 PM (J2vNu)

399 Catholic Bishop "Look how tolerant and loving we are!"
Muslim Iman "We have one a great victory over the infidel"
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Meh, this is exactly how the Holy Roman Empire dealt with Vikings.

Posted by: Puddinhead at February 28, 2023 02:08 PM (OTXUv)

400 It's just an excuse to always have a pair of binoculars. They really are just clever perverts.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 28, 2023 02:04 PM

Yea but you can't sniff birds, c'mon man! J Biden

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 28, 2023 02:09 PM (oE0yX)

401 Just a note for the sensitivity readers: If you don't like a book, don't read it.

Just a thought.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at February 28, 2023 02:09 PM (okGHj)

402 Lana Wood as Plenty O'Toole didn't get much more than a cameo in Diamond's Are Forever, but what a rack!

Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023
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Then that ass Robert Wagner murdered her.

Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2023


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Wagner was married to Lana's sister, Natalie, the one who died on the boat trip.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 02:09 PM (J2vNu)

403 Nah, he's pretty low energy and a mope.
Bond needs to have charisma and physicality.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 02:07 PM (lEVn+)

Hmmm a thought popped into my head: David Tennant as Bond...

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 02:09 PM (zZu0s)

404 377 We know how Tarentino would have directed that scene.

It would have lasted half and hour and they would have discussed how the original Green Lantern's ring was vulnerable to wood.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 28, 2023 02:03 PM (0hOvj)

And people would talk about it and study that scene for decades. He has his flaws as a filmmaker but the man really know how to shoot a scene.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at February 28, 2023 02:09 PM (lEVn+)

405 Lana Wood as Plenty O'Toole didn't get much more than a cameo in Diamond's Are Forever, but what a rack!

Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 02:06 PM (mR6Gs)


Then that ass Robert Wagner murdered her.

Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2023 02:07 PM (gmo/4)

her sister, Natalie.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 28, 2023 02:09 PM (4I/2K)

406 Peter J. Hasson
@peterjhasson
1h

NEW: Rep. Cori Bush paid her husband $60,000 for private security -- but he doesn't have a private security license. He runs a moving company.
@JoeSchoffstall
reports:

https://tinyurl.com/2p9ewzdj

Posted by: redridinghood at February 28, 2023 02:09 PM (NpAcC)

407 "And they say Christmas only comes once a year"

Posted by: Doof at February 28, 2023 02:09 PM (6uyrZ)

408 Then that ass Robert Wagner murdered her.

Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2023 02:07 PM (gmo/4)

Her sister Natalie Wood was Wagner's victim

Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 02:10 PM (mR6Gs)

409 406 Peter J. Hasson
@peterjhasson
1h

NEW: Rep. Cori Bush paid her husband $60,000 for private security -- but he doesn't have a private security license. He runs a moving company.
@JoeSchoffstall
reports:

https://tinyurl.com/2p9ewzdj
Posted by: redridinghood at February 28, 2023 02:09 PM (NpAcC)

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Retort: She is above the law and not little people.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 02:10 PM (LvTSG)

410 Steve Martin "The Big Year" 2011.
A movie about bird-watchers.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 28, 2023 02:06 PM (fs1hN)


Not a great movie, but an enjoyable watch mainly because the three main actors are very good at doing what they do.

A chuckle and smile movie rather than a laugh out loud one.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 28, 2023 02:10 PM (KLPy8)

411 408 Then that ass Robert Wagner murdered her.

Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2023 02:07 PM (gmo/4)

Her sister Natalie Wood was Wagner's victim
Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 02:10 PM (mR6Gs)

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"I have no idea what you people are talking about. I swear."
-Christopher Walken

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 02:10 PM (LvTSG)

412 383 Clive Owen would have been better than Daniel Craig.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 28, 2023 02:05 PM (44ww/)


The previous thread talked of actors having small bodies and big heads. Clive Owen is exhibit A for this. Dude's freaky looking in real life.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at February 28, 2023 02:10 PM (t4BDZ)

413 A woke Bible would be lit.

Posted by: torabora at February 28, 2023 02:11 PM (ra48h)

414 They should make me a sensitivity reader. I would change little in the books, except to add hundreds of pages of the most vile, obscene and offensive material I can possibly dream up, which is a lot, and some completely unveiled direct threats to the US government about my gas stove.

In "James and the Giant Feast," a rogue cadre of French and Italian chefs will eat the staff of the US Stove Department in a cozy café on the Med, for instance.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 28, 2023 02:06 PM (oINRc)
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Heh. And Q is exposed as the Disinformation Psyop Mastermind, which leads to new Nuremberg Trials and mass executions of the Deep State.

Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at February 28, 2023 02:11 PM (q01e3)

415 The part of the race issue filled "Live and Let Die" played by Jane Seymour (Domino) will now be played by Precious.

Posted by: Orson at February 28, 2023 02:11 PM (dE/Jl)

416 415 The part of the race issue filled "Live and Let Die" played by Jane Seymour (Domino) will now be played by Precious.
Posted by: Orson at February 28, 2023 02:11 PM (dE/Jl)

Gah!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 02:12 PM (zZu0s)

417 Lana Wood as Plenty O'Toole didn't get much more than a cameo in Diamond's Are Forever, but what a rack!
Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2023 02:06 PM (mR6Gs)
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And they dubbed her voice.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at February 28, 2023 02:12 PM (2hlEI)

418 NEW: Rep. Cori Bush paid her husband $60,000 for private security -- but he doesn't have a private security license. He runs a moving company.
@JoeSchoffstall
reports:

https://tinyurl.com/2p9ewzdj
Posted by: redridinghood at February 28, 2023 02:09 PM

Then there's nothing wrong with it. He was just moving money!

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 28, 2023 02:12 PM (oE0yX)

419
Dude, *I* would've been better than Daniel Craig. I don't even think he would dispute that. He was easily the worst Bond of all time. Yes, that includes Lazenby.

Who thought of a brooding public schoolboy with a penchant for buggery as James Bond? That's lame.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 28, 2023 02:12 PM (oINRc)

420 353 If I ever find myself in an argument with radical femprogs about Bond I would be hard pressed not to say to them in my best Connery "Hell Pussy", just to see the reaction
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"I must be dreaming" is a line straight from the novel. Connery nailed it! Doctor No, From Russia with Love, On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Thunderball are the movies that come closest to their original novels. I'd have to re-read Casino Royale to see how close the Daniel Craig movie got. The Spy Who Loved Me shares about only the title, while Moonraker needed a cinematic tech upgrade to stay relevant. Live and Let Die cinematically traded noir for mod, and The Man with the Golden Gun movie probably had the better story.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 28, 2023 02:13 PM (W+kMI)

421 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2023 02:13 PM (zZu0s)

422 Timothy Dalton was a good bond.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 28, 2023 02:13 PM (DSB5h)

423 I recall this; Blaxploitation... an ethnic subgenre of the exploitation film that emerged in the United States during the early 1970s.

The movie "Shaft" comes to mind.

And you didn't hear a whole lot of bitching and moaning about those films except from those who weren't making money off them.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 28, 2023 02:13 PM (Q4IgG)

424 John Payne took an option on Moonraker back in the '50s. It never worked out, but he could have made a very effective Bond. No idea if he could have done a convincing British dialect, or if they would have made Bond an American agent.

I still say the *young* Richard Burton, ca. 1956 or so, would have made a fantastic Bond.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 02:14 PM (J2vNu)

425 Do you want to freshen up before dinner on the island?

No thanks, I'll wash up on shore.

Posted by: Zombie Natalie Wood at February 28, 2023 02:14 PM (KXsGl)

426 John Buchan's adventure stories were all pretty much WWI or earlier, I thought? The Richard Hannays, anyway, like 39 Steps? So their general air would be quite different from today's -- more like Sherlock Holmes than like James Bond.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 02:04 PM (J2vNu)

No. The Hannay series was definitely post Great War, and one plot device that came up again and again was Hannay looking up an old crony from the War for some special skills, like flying an airplane.

John Buchan was a Scottish lord, Lord Tweedsmuir, and a friend of T.E. Lawrence. He was made Governor General of Canada, the last foreign-born person to hold that position, and died in the office in 1940.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 28, 2023 02:14 PM (tkR6S)

427 ----------
Heh. And Q is exposed as the Disinformation Psyop Mastermind, which leads to new Nuremberg Trials and mass executions of the Deep State.
Posted by: ShainS -- Transgenderism is the Tip of the Transhumanism Spear at February 28, 2023 02:11 PM (q01e3)

Don't be surprised, Mon Capitain!

Posted by: Q at February 28, 2023 02:15 PM (BTgKJ)

428 413 A woke Bible would be lit.
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According to my parents, the new optional (for now) Lutheran Bible is exactly that.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 28, 2023 02:15 PM (W+kMI)

429 No. The Hannay series was definitely post Great War, and one plot device that came up again and again was Hannay looking up an old crony from the War for some special skills, like flying an airplane.

John Buchan was a Scottish lord, Lord Tweedsmuir, and a friend of T.E. Lawrence. He was made Governor General of Canada, the last foreign-born person to hold that position, and died in the office in 1940.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 28, 2023


***
Thanks for the tip. I've never read any of Buchan's novels, only a couple of short stories, so I wasn't sure.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 02:16 PM (J2vNu)

430 I know someone around here who hates Graham Greene with a passion.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at February 28, 2023 01:42 PM (LvTSG)

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Look, I did some good work later in my career. Lots of people who needed the work back in the day were in "Dances With Wolves." Let it go.

Posted by: Sincerely, G. Greene at February 28, 2023 02:18 PM (wzAuc)

431 Wagner was married to Lana's sister, Natalie, the one who died on the boat trip.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 02:09 PM (J2vNu)


Thanks. My mind is like a steel trap. A rusty old steel trap.

Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2023 02:18 PM (gmo/4)

432 339 Roselynn sat quietly in the corner, filling her glass from the now empty box of wine at her elbow.
Amy was at the foot of the bed grimacing.
"I don't understand" the doctor at the side of the bed uttered, "This morphine drip should have killed him a week ago."
A rabbit sat outside the window, looking in, and smiling.
Posted by: Auspex at February 28, 2023 01:58 PM (j4U/Z)

Whoa!
Took me a minute.

Posted by: m at February 28, 2023 02:19 PM (syBNd)

433 Lana Wood as Plenty O'Toole didn't get much more than a cameo in Diamond's Are Forever, but what a rack!

Posted by: JoeF.
Then that ass Robert Wagner murdered her.
Posted by: Archer

her sister, Natalie.
Posted by: Count de Monet

I had Plenty of Wood for Christopher Walken!

Posted by: Robert Wagner at February 28, 2023 02:19 PM (vcOmj)

434 Thanks for the tip. I've never read any of Buchan's novels, only a couple of short stories, so I wasn't sure.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 28, 2023 02:16 PM (J2vNu)

Buchan was an engaging writer. Well worth a read. He wrote non-fiction, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 28, 2023 02:20 PM (tkR6S)

435 These fags need to get over themselves.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at February 28, 2023 03:07 PM (ytSiK)

436 Bond will be Bi as will the trans women he sleeps with. Not interested.

Posted by: SmileyGG at February 28, 2023 04:13 PM (77cT/)

437 They are confused. I think the word in question was on page 29 of Chitty-Chitty Bang-Bang.

Posted by: Mongo at February 28, 2023 05:09 PM (ENHGg)

438 I don't remember that word being in any of his books.
Nope, it's used. And on more than one occasion. I know it's used in Dr. No. I think it's used in Diamonds Are Forever (set in the Deep South for part of the story). It is used in Dr. No as part of the local vernacular in Jamaica, but I can't recall who says it (but absolutely certain it's a black). Pretty sure it's a black using the term in Diamonds Are Forever, too.

Posted by: GWB at February 28, 2023 05:32 PM (NJ9MR)

439 If that sentence was hard to get through and cringey
Why would that be cringey? It's how a great many spoke in the 1950s and early 60s. If you don't want to "hear" that with phonetic writing, then you're the snowflake.

(Really good writers do that a lot with heavily accented English - Southern, Bostonian, Irish, Scots, foreign speakers - so you get the right feel for the spoken word in your head while reading.)

Posted by: GWB at February 28, 2023 05:36 PM (NJ9MR)

440 Not sure I can work up enough energy to care about this.

The last Bond movie where they killed off Bond sucked rancid eggs.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Emily Blunt is the next Bond and she drives a stake through the dying corpse of this movie franchise.

Posted by: Dummy #43 at March 01, 2023 01:18 AM (FkMTW)

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