Last Weekend in Black History Month

Are you tired of Black History Month yet? It's easy to get overwhelmed. But some sort of amusing things have happened this month. And we really don't have to concentrate only on black history, do we?

One thing that has been brought into focus this month is that the academic and pop-culture world has been studiously ignoring Thomas Sowell. They go with the guy who has the fancy dreds and the made-up name instead.

Nikole Hannah-Jones takes on Thomas Sowell

From Neo: And makes a fool of herself

Other than being Black, what exactly is Sowell's expertise in slavery or history?
Yeah, it's kind of funny. But it's also tremendously sad, because millions more young people absorb Hannah-Jones' utterly mendacious work than will ever become familiar with Sowell's brilliant oeuvre. And it's not just young people, either.
Over the years, I've asked many friends to read some of Sowell's books. To date, as far as I know, not one of them has done so. It's not just their loss; it's everybody's loss.

Check out the comments.

People may not read Sowell's books, but there are a lot of great Sowell quotes. What are your favorites?

Here's Twitchy on the inanity of the person who published a bunch of fake history in the 1619 Project. Nice compilation of reactions to this tweet (appropriating the name of an actual historic journalist):

Other than being Black, what exactly is Sowell's expertise in slavery or history?
— Ida Bae Wells (@nhannahjones) February 10, 2023

As someone astutely pointed out, she is half black and Sowell is black, so he is automatically right. Those are the rules. Heh.

Gad Saad, the Canadian academic, is understated in an often-droll way. But this incident prompted him to re-up a video he had released earlier about why you should love Thomas Sowell.

Angela Davis discovers her lineage

She's not too happy.

Daniel J. Flynn has a great take: Howdy, Pilgrim

Angela Davis bought the guns used in a courthouse raid that murdered a judge, and she later served as Gus Hall's running mate on the Communist Party presidential ticket. But the former member of the FBI's Most Wanted list also hails from, much to her displeasure, a patrician lineage.
"Did you ever in your wildest dreams think you descended from the people who laid the foundations for this country?" Henry Louis Gates asks the professor on his PBS show Finding Your Roots. Davis laughs in disbelief and repeats, "Never."
Gates informs her that William Brewster, the only college graduate among the pilgrims and the likely author of the Mayflower Compact, came before her in her family line. . .

The pilgrims soon learned that socialism didn't work.

But wait, there's more. Another ancestor was a slave owner. On her mother's side this time.

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George Washington's Birthday

Scott Johnson at Powerline put up a post on Remembering the Indispensable Man. He discussed many reasons to remember Washington, but a particularly relevant one today was this:

In anticipation of Washington's visit to Newport, the members of America's oldest Jewish congregation prepared a letter welcoming Washington for presentation to him at a public event on the morning of August 18. The letter was authorized by the congregation's board and signed by its president, Moses Seixas. It is Washington's magnificent letter responding to Seixas that that has become famous as one of the classic statements of religious toleration in America.
The congregation's letter to Washington is not so well known, although the most prominent line in Washington's letter echoes that letter. By far the most striking feature of the congregation's letter is its expression of sheer gratitude to Washington himself and to America for the freedom and equal rights the congregants had attained as American citizens.

The text of the remarkable letter is included at the link.

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Things to think about

After centuries of cruel chattel slavery, African slaves rise up to massacre their oppressors. A protracted & bitter war ensues, the rebels taking refuge in the marshes & rivers that surround the now-charred plantations.

This is Iraq. pic.twitter.com/2i4NAPnRI9
— Varangian Chronicler (@Varangian_Tagma) February 21, 2023

Making up history out of the wish to exonerate Africans. You have to follow the thread a while to get to anything real. (In the thread on the first response).

“Buying and selling of human beings among the Igbo had been going on long before the Europeans arrived. People became slaves as punishment for crime, payment for debts, or prisoners of war.”https://t.co/h49NxhLcLM https://t.co/FGTe7kE9TN
— The Truth is Real (@RealAdamB1) February 21, 2023

Brazil had a lot of slaves once. They didn't have our Founding Fathers. Maybe Glenn Greenwald shouldn't have moved to Brazil.

Brazil, under Lula's new government, is poised to become the first democratic country (unless you count Singapore and Malaysia) to restrict, govern and ban what it and various officials regard as "fake news" and "disinformation" online. Brazil's left and its media largely united.
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) February 24, 2023

How? https://t.co/2bmtQEW8t8
— Wilfred Reilly (@wil_da_beast630) February 24, 2023

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Music

"Tap" The Challenge Scene

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, Hip-Hop Is Going Places

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:20 AM

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1 Sponge!

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 25, 2023 11:22 AM (PyOKD)

2 Cold out but outside anyway

Posted by: Skip at February 25, 2023 11:23 AM (xhxe8)

3 Is this the thread for the singing, dancing and praising or is it for the knife fights?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 25, 2023 11:24 AM (Jg7EG)

4 Gad Saad, the Canadian academic, is understated in an often-droll way.

he's so understated that his meaning is often construed as the exact opposite of what he intends.

IOW, sometimes people don't appreciate the irony of his commentary

Posted by: kallisto at February 25, 2023 11:25 AM (dCxaZ)

5 Things are not getting better.

Posted by: blaster at February 25, 2023 11:27 AM (pwExq)

6 you could have black history decade

wont change anything

Posted by: REDACTED at February 25, 2023 11:27 AM (us2H3)

7 I've already started taking down the Black History Month decorations around the house. The outdoor decorations will go next weekend.

Got to clear the decks for Pride Month you know.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 25, 2023 11:28 AM (Qzn2/)

8 Oh, yay! More race talk!!

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 11:28 AM (M2qSa)

9 Re. The brilliant Sowell — I loved Discrimination and Disparities, and just finished Controversial Essays. I remember reading his columns in Forbes in the late 80s/early 90s. He should be required reading in schools.

Posted by: Eternity Matters at February 25, 2023 11:28 AM (MTm8X)

10 So much white supremacy, I just can't even.

Posted by: I've got a lot of intersectional problems with you people! at February 25, 2023 11:28 AM (C3uQd)

11 As Biden said "they want to keep you in chains!"
Projection. Always projection.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 25, 2023 11:29 AM (SJsWC)

12 5 Things are not getting better.
Posted by: blaster at February 25, 2023 11:27 AM (pwExq)

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I know, right?

Posted by: B. Obama, Now With 20% More Racial Harmony at February 25, 2023 11:29 AM (Qzn2/)

13 No blah blah blah

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 25, 2023 11:30 AM (X+Ku8)

14 Are you tired of Black History Month yet?

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Well, now that you ask....

Posted by: runner at February 25, 2023 11:30 AM (V13WU)

15 His beef w/Elijah Muhammed wasn't the only reason they killed Malcolm X.

Posted by: BignJames at February 25, 2023 11:30 AM (AwYPR)

16 I remember Angela Davis marching with Jesse Jackson in my hometown back in the '60s. Sh*t stirrers.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 25, 2023 11:30 AM (ju2Fy)

17 12 5 Things are not getting better.
Posted by: blaster at February 25, 2023 11:27 AM (pwExq)

pends on ur perspective, muther fucka

Posted by: the hustlers at February 25, 2023 11:31 AM (us2H3)

18 Morning.

Posted by: Robert at February 25, 2023 11:31 AM (1Yy3c)

19 This Akers fellow is quite a dim bulb.

Posted by: They just love to make shit up at February 25, 2023 11:31 AM (C3uQd)

20 Brazil had a lot of slaves once. They didn't have our Founding Fathers. Maybe Glenn Greenwald shouldn't have moved to Brazil.

He moved there because his partner is Brazilian. The partner also is from a leftist party and IIRC, threw his wholehearted support behind Lula. Which makes Glenn's commitment to free speech kind of awkward at family dinners, I think.

Posted by: kallisto at February 25, 2023 11:31 AM (dCxaZ)

21 Are you tired of Black History Month yet?

.

Soon.

Posted by: Ghey and Tranny Month at February 25, 2023 11:32 AM (HO4be)

22 > told to bring more like you, or we will take you instead?

Nah, brah. It was more like "bring slaves from that other tribe that you hate anyway, and we'll give you liquor, tobacco, brightly-colored cloth, and costume jewelry".

They definitely didn't see the people they were selling as being "like them" in any meaningful respect.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 25, 2023 11:33 AM (bW8dp)

23 the main problem with humans is they expect problems to be solved within a human lifespan

problems that took 100's of years to manifest

my advice is to live your life to fullest and forget the rest of the world's problems

Posted by: REDACTED at February 25, 2023 11:34 AM (us2H3)

24 I've said it before and I'll say it again:

In a just society, Thomas Sowell would have been the first black President of the United States, and we'd be much better for it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 25, 2023 11:34 AM (bW8dp)

25 "Known today as the Association for the Study of African American Life and History (ASALH), the group sponsored a national Negro History week in 1926, choosing the second week of February to coincide with the birthdays of Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglass."

In case you were wondering why Black History Month is the shortest month of the year.
Abe is already on their hit list.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 25, 2023 11:35 AM (SJsWC)

26 This crap gets so tiresome.

Posted by: Infidel at February 25, 2023 11:35 AM (tITEI)

27 Are you tired of Black History Month yet?

You took away Baby Huey's Nintendo Switch during Black History Month?!

Posted by: t-bird at February 25, 2023 11:35 AM (Sv58p)

28 March is woman's history month, so we got that going for us.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 25, 2023 11:35 AM (Q4IgG)

29 19 This Akers fellow is quite a dim bulb.
Posted by: They just love to make shit up at February 25, 2023 11:31 AM (C3uQd)

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His A.A. Degree in Social Grievance Studies says otherwise.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 25, 2023 11:35 AM (Qzn2/)

30 my advice is to live your life to fullest and forget the rest of the world's problems

==

Dad ???

Posted by: runner at February 25, 2023 11:35 AM (V13WU)

31 His beef w/Elijah Muhammed wasn't the only reason they killed Malcolm X.
Posted by: BignJames at February 25, 2023 11:30 AM (AwYPR)

There are some who believe it was a CIA hit. I don't know enough to know that it wasn't.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 11:35 AM (M2qSa)

32 What other racist country with a 13% black population elects a black man President twice?

Posted by: polynikes at February 25, 2023 11:36 AM (6pcCZ)

33 Or CRT decade

Posted by: Skip at February 25, 2023 11:36 AM (xhxe8)

34 Thomas Sowell's book are fantastic...he has the rare ability to translate economic gobbledygook into plain English.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2023 11:36 AM (XIJ/X)

35 I am celebrating black history month by working up a 168 grain 30-06 load and sealing the master bathroom shower tile.

Posted by: flounder at February 25, 2023 11:37 AM (PyOKD)

36 > 32 What other racist country with a 13% black population elects a black man President twice?
Posted by: polynikes at February 25, 2023 11:36 AM (6pcCZ)

Also, what other homophobic country elects a GAY black man President twice?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 25, 2023 11:37 AM (bW8dp)

37 Can we have a Jewish History Day? We can hold it right after Italian War Heroes Day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 25, 2023 11:37 AM (Irn0L)

38 Hannah-Jones does make the Hamburglar look like a genius too. Is there anything that Ronald can't do?

Posted by: Roy at February 25, 2023 11:37 AM (rqgpJ)

39 Are you tired of Black History Month yet?

And John McCain's funeral.

Posted by: Interminable and insufferable at February 25, 2023 11:39 AM (C3uQd)

40 > Hannah-Jones does make the Hamburglar look like a genius too.

A retarded barnacle could probably cheat her in a game of Go Fish.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 25, 2023 11:39 AM (bW8dp)

41 Things are not getting better.
Posted by: blaster at February 25, 2023 11:27 AM (pwExq)

*Looks at toilet paper situation*

I'd say you're right.

Posted by: Robert at February 25, 2023 11:39 AM (1Yy3c)

42 Soft bigotry of low expectations.

Posted by: runner at February 25, 2023 11:39 AM (V13WU)

43 My inflatable outdoor tableau of Africans inventing math is probably good for one more season.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 25, 2023 11:40 AM (Qzn2/)

44 Can we have a Jewish History Day?

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Yes, but Jews will never agree on the day to hold it...

Posted by: runner at February 25, 2023 11:40 AM (V13WU)

45 I would imagine the trans-women will commence taking over women's history month.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at February 25, 2023 11:41 AM (a4EWo)

46 45 I would imagine the trans-women will commence taking over women's history month.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at February 25, 2023 11:41 AM (a4EWo)

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The TERFs will probably insist that Chicks With Dicks be given their own month.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 25, 2023 11:42 AM (Qzn2/)

47 Rude to have a black history month in the middle of both pride century and McCains funeral

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 25, 2023 11:42 AM (le5aY)

48 Posted by: polynikes at February 25, 2023 11:36 AM (6pcCZ)

Also, what other homophobic country elects a GAY black man President twice?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 25, 2023 11:37 AM (bW8dp)

And what other douchebag country elects a gay black douchebag man President twice?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 11:43 AM (M2qSa)

49 Sowell like a few others is so good because he illuminates and instructs on basics, and those basics mostly amount to common sense, human nature, and history and society as directly observed.

As CBD said, he puts economic basics in easily understood terms.

Meanwhile, the mere existence (in their "jobs", being paid, not being mocked and marginalized) of cretins like "Xendi" and Jones is a pretty definitive indictment of of the slide of American society in the last 30 or so years, when racism was revived, re-engineered, and weaponized as a tool for a different class of greedy power-mongers and grifters.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 25, 2023 11:43 AM (OTzUX)

50 People should read more Thomas Sowell and less Savage X. Fendi or whatever fake-ass name that guy's using.

Posted by: Or not read x-guy's shit at all at February 25, 2023 11:44 AM (C3uQd)

51 *Looks at toilet paper situation*

I'd say you're right.
Posted by: Robert at February 25, 2023 11:39 AM (1Yy3c)

But seriously, you know Doordash and other outfits deliver household goods too, right?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 11:44 AM (M2qSa)

52 Women's History Month. That would be March.

Posted by: runner at February 25, 2023 11:45 AM (V13WU)

53
"We decide who is Aryan."

Posted by: Joseph Goebbels at February 25, 2023 11:45 AM (TTQED)

54 1 German 14.70%
2 Black or African American (non-Hispanic) 12.30%
3 Mexican (of any race) 10.90%
4 Irish 10.60%

USA ethnic breakdown. These surveys usually underestimate the English. But you get the point.

I'm declaring March to be Irish History Month, centered on St Pats Day.

The ancestors of the Irish in the USA usually had a hard time getting here and starting out here. But no whingeing allowed!

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 25, 2023 11:46 AM (SJsWC)

55 The pure, distilled idiocy and logical illiteracy of that Jones airhead is little different than Angela Davis' lineage, which is of zero relevance. Their "logical" fallacious core is identical.

The leader of the Hitler Youth and a prisoner in the dock at Nuremburg (the big, leadership trial of the many trials) was a direct descendant of *2* signers of the Declaration of Independence.

A curiosity and an irony, not a meaningful factoid.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 25, 2023 11:46 AM (OTzUX)

56 This week at Anzio, 1944 from the EZDog journals

Feb 22
[Margin note: General Truscott took over VI Corps.] G.W.’s birthday but hardly a scene for festivity - what with Gerry planes and Gerry artillery. We still dish out a lot more than we take. And we’re taking a lot more than we have before.
Weather cloudy. Cold, damp.

Feb 24
Still tight. PW report has it that Gerry will push us off the beachhead by the 28th.
Somehow I think he forgot to include Gen. Truscott in his planning conference.

PW report = Debriefing or scuttlebutt from German prisoners about the German plans. Big German push along the road to Caroceto and The Factory has the Allies (mostly Brits) back on their heels in that sector. But this is nearly the low point, the German advance is about to be stopped.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 25, 2023 11:46 AM (ykeLU)

57 52 Women's History Month. That would be March.
Posted by: runner at February 25, 2023 11:45 AM (V13WU)

Makes sense. The womens are all about their marches. Baby killing, non-existent pay gap.

Posted by: It's a real banner month at February 25, 2023 11:46 AM (C3uQd)

58 Recent discoveries suggest that women's history goes back almost as far as human history.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 25, 2023 11:46 AM (Qzn2/)

59 To be honest, we probably didn't "elect" any President in the last 50 years but one.

And we're being told, quite loudly, to never to that again.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 25, 2023 11:46 AM (Q4IgG)

60 to > do

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 25, 2023 11:47 AM (Q4IgG)

61 Inside and cup of tea

Posted by: Skip at February 25, 2023 11:47 AM (xhxe8)

62 I've listened to Black Rednecks by Sowell--fascinating.

Posted by: N.Lurker at February 25, 2023 11:47 AM (eGTCV)

63 Jewish History Day?

How about Sept. 8?

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at February 25, 2023 11:48 AM (TXFi7)

64 >>>Can we have a Jewish History Day?

>They held that on the day when everybody was at the pig roast.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 25, 2023 11:48 AM (Jg7EG)

65 The womens are all about their marches. Baby killing, non-existent pay gap.
Posted by: It's a real banner month at February 25, 2023 11:46 AM (C3uQd)

I bet you're an absolute hoot and half at parties....

Posted by: runner at February 25, 2023 11:49 AM (V13WU)

66 Actually think most likely President Trump ( odd how in all these years typing President that Trump isn't a suggested word) is only one Actually elected, they got caught with their panties in the wash.

Posted by: Skip at February 25, 2023 11:49 AM (xhxe8)

67 The Kharijites are viewed negatively by most modern muslims - think of the Cathars for Christians a few hundred years ago.

But, as always with Islam, the disagreement is mostly about political power not theology.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 25, 2023 11:49 AM (lc5cP)

68 flounder I'm working on refilling the ammo cans, starting with 9mikemike. But after all the basic calibers are refilled comes the 30-06 brass prep drudgery. The M1s will be very hungry soon. Think I got 800 rounds of the surplus HXP when I got the rifles. I'm on my 2nd reloading of that brass. Hard to believe I've fired close to 1,600 rounds since I got those beauties.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 25, 2023 11:50 AM (OTzUX)

69 The Matrix screwed up. Trump was a glitch. Not supposed to happen.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at February 25, 2023 11:50 AM (TXFi7)

70 The basic biographies an Anthony Johnson and John Casor every Americans should know.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 25, 2023 11:51 AM (OA1NX)

71 Most American blacks have white ancestors as well. And generally they were slave owners. So the questions of reparations is even dumber then you might otherwise think.

Part of the problem is we still operate under the Democrats "one drop rule". So Obama with white and black ancestors is black.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 25, 2023 11:51 AM (lc5cP)

72
As part of my job in manufacturing way back when I visited other manufacturers. African-American males, and to a lesser extent, AA females were to be found way outside of what might be considered their percentage part of the population as a whole.

Trade with China wiped out those manufacturers and five million jobs. It probably destroyed families and ended health insurance for twenty million people.

But we still keep electing the same crooks every election. When the hell will people wise up? The (D) party may claim to be the party of AA peeps but their actions prove otherwise.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 25, 2023 11:51 AM (enJYY)

73 Making up history out of the wish to exonerate Africans.

It's like discussing the rampant slavery among American Indian tribes.

"But it was friendly, nice, slavery!"

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 25, 2023 11:51 AM (2tUFv)

74 The Challenge Scene

I thought you were going to put up White Nights or the Fred Astaire and actress [unremembered] challenge.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 25, 2023 11:52 AM (TTQED)

75 Ginger Rogers?

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at February 25, 2023 11:53 AM (TXFi7)

76 Fascinating thread about the Zanj. I agree with the historian who wrote that the area has never really recovered. Much of the middle east, even today, is just a pale shadow of what it once was.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 25, 2023 11:54 AM (jz8lK)

77 You know why Ginger was a better dancer than Fred?

High heels and backwards.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at February 25, 2023 11:54 AM (TXFi7)

78 Pre-Colonial Central and South America were not fun places to live.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 25, 2023 11:54 AM (CZBWZ)

79 This is a link to an American Thinker article I bookmarked back in 2014. I sent this link to a black co-worker who had an enormous "Hate Whitey" chip on her shoulder. She was adamant in her hatred of white culture, and the very country that had given her the freedom to succeed. I told her to do without the contributions of the "white male" for one week.

https://tinyurl.com/49tfub4p

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at February 25, 2023 11:54 AM (Zvtjl)

80 I think global reparations is the endgame. They are trying it out in CA.

Posted by: runner at February 25, 2023 11:55 AM (V13WU)

81 Actually think most likely President Trump ( odd how in all these years typing President that Trump isn't a suggested word) is only one Actually elected, they got caught with their panties in the wash.
Posted by: Skip at February 25, 2023 11:49 AM (xhxe

And consider this: I haven't looked at the numbers, but they say Trump had a much higher percentage of black and hispanic votes than past Republican candidates.

Is it possible, it WAS actual votes from those demographics that gave him the win? As in, the more ACTUAL votes cast by black and hispanic voters meant the democrats couldn't manufacture enough fake votes to overcome it? As in, if an actual person who typically does not vote, actually votes, then they can't cast the vote for that person for them.

Worth considering.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 11:55 AM (M2qSa)

82 There is a professor at Yale who gives a quiz to students at the beginning of his course.

A majority of his students think that only the United States ever had slavery.

But that's because they read things like "A People's History of the United States", which never acknowledges that slavery existed elsewhere.

I wonder what percentage of the American population knows that more slaves were imported into Jamaica than the United States.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 25, 2023 11:56 AM (2tUFv)

83 65 The womens are all about their marches. Baby killing, non-existent pay gap.
Posted by: It's a real banner month at February 25, 2023 11:46 AM (C3uQd)

I bet you're an absolute hoot and half at parties....
Posted by: runner at February 25, 2023 11:49 AM (V13WU)

Irrelevant. Plus this is an open thread not a party.

Posted by: Context matters at February 25, 2023 11:56 AM (C3uQd)

84 It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again.
— David Plouffe (@davidplouffe) June 13, 2016

Plouffe is a big Leftie operative, ran Obama's 2008 campaign and worked in his White House

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 25, 2023 11:56 AM (SJsWC)

85 Women's History Month. That would be March.
Posted by: runner

Fairly certain Rosie the Riveter is now considered racist

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Subdued at February 25, 2023 11:56 AM (Ij1UG)

86 80 I think global reparations is the endgame. They are trying it out in CA.
Posted by: runner at February 25, 2023 11:55 AM (V13WU)

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Then what? The Promised Land of comprehensive racial harmony?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 25, 2023 11:56 AM (Qzn2/)

87
Are you tired of Black History Month yet?

Almost as tired as I will be of Mandatory Homosexual Worship month in June. Force fed rainbows till you puke.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at February 25, 2023 11:57 AM (135ws)

88 I didn't care about black history month when it started. The constant repetition of the same material over the decades hasn't improved matters.

How about changing it to Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas and Walter Williams appreciation month? Not because they are black but because, between them, they constitute about 70 percent of the brainpower in this country. (Walter Williams passing diminished the entire country.)

Posted by: JTB at February 25, 2023 11:57 AM (7EjX1)

89 I think "the women's" is a diverse group. Conservative women are not the same as leftist women.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 25, 2023 11:58 AM (1VrUy)

90 We wymyn have suffered more oppression than anyone in the history of civilization EVER! You just wait until next month when we'll continue to tell you all about it!

Posted by: AWFL Union Local 433 at February 25, 2023 11:58 AM (C3uQd)

91 But, as always with Islam, the disagreement is mostly about political power not theology.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 25, 2023 11:49 AM (lc5cP)

Almost like how the disagreement between democrats and republicans isn't really about policy differences.

Almost.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 11:59 AM (M2qSa)

92 Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at February 25, 2023 11:54 AM (Zvtjl)

And do you know if she read it and made any response?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 25, 2023 11:59 AM (1VrUy)

93 Black history month, pride month and any other inane celebrations of virtue signaling are the creation of PBS
I'd say it's high time Elmo and Big Bird talk to the fishes

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Subdued at February 25, 2023 11:59 AM (Ij1UG)

94 Keep slavery safe, legal and rare.

Posted by: You know, like baby killin at February 25, 2023 11:59 AM (DhOHl)

95 Fairly certain Rosie the Riveter is now considered racist
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Subdued at February 25, 2023 11:56 AM (Ij1UG)

A white symbol used by a white supremacist regime!

Posted by: #cancelRosie at February 25, 2023 11:59 AM (C3uQd)

96 The focus is on Blacks, but the Leftie movement is actually taking over for the benefit of single women and suburban wine moms. It's a great time to be a lesbian, no?

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 25, 2023 12:00 PM (SJsWC)

97 I have never read a book by Thomas Sowell. What would people who have read his works suggest I read first.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 25, 2023 12:00 PM (1VrUy)

98 All this race nonsense espoused by black larned skolers will be a thing forgotten in 20 years or so as their little brown brothers from South Of The Border ascend to power and continue to sweep them aside as an after thought from jobs, neighborhoods and kolleges.

Jose don't care much about that slavery stuff.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 25, 2023 12:00 PM (R/m4+)

99 Then what? The Promised Land of comprehensive racial harmony?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 25, 2023 11:56 AM (Qzn2/)

Why do I have this thing in my head, something something about Danes and geld... but I don't really know what geld is, so.....

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:02 PM (M2qSa)

100 6 you could have black history decade

wont change anything

Scott Adams may be on to something.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 25, 2023 12:02 PM (E+05M)

101 Then what? The Promised Land of comprehensive racial harmony?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 25, 2023 11:56 AM (Qzn2/)

New and Improved So Africa.

Posted by: runner at February 25, 2023 12:02 PM (V13WU)

102 I have never read a book by Thomas Sowell. What would people who have read his works suggest I read first.

The Vision of the Anointed.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 25, 2023 12:02 PM (eOEVl)

103 97 I have never read a book by Thomas Sowell. What would people who have read his works suggest I read first.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 25, 2023 12:00 PM (1VrUy)

The Vision of the Anointed

Posted by: It's a good place to start at February 25, 2023 12:03 PM (C3uQd)

104 I have never read a book by Thomas Sowell. What would people who have read his works suggest I read first.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 25, 2023 12:00 PM (1VrUy)

I started and stopped the one about Black Rednecks, I think the title is "Black Rednecks and White Racists."

I stopped, not because it wasn't good, but because I didn't expect to learn anything new from it. Being a slow reader, I have to be quite selective in my reading.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:03 PM (M2qSa)

105 Considerable commentary around the following Tweet:

College admission season update - From a friend:

“Niece got 1450 SAT, 4.2 GPA, competitive athlete. She didn’t even get into her safety schools. Going to junior college this year and is very depressed. The POC kids in her class, C students at best, are all headed to Berkeley, UCLA, USC, and Stanford.”

Left-wing response to the Tweet is still at the "This is not possible and is a lie" stage, but I'm sure they'll soon shift to "This is good that this is happening" stage.

Mickey Kaus noted a few years ago at one of Los Angeles' better private high schools that almost all the minority graduates from the school that year were accepted at the University of California, and that almost none of the white graduates were accepted.

There is a reason why students are now furiously searching for any evidence that they have minority ancestry.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 25, 2023 12:04 PM (2tUFv)

106 Muldoon, grazzie!

I'll reply with this from the B-26's pilot's diary:

"George Washington's birthday. This was the big push that was to sever the Germans' communications system. Out target was a marshaling yard in the town of Montarbaur, Ger. We bombed at 5000 ft (regular alt is between 2000-14,000 ft). After dropping our bombs we peeled off and went down on the deck and strafed the marshaling yard and factories.

I got a direct hit from 40mm in the right wing. The plane completely out of control for about 10 sec. I told the crew to get ready to bail out even though we were only about 75 feet above the ground. I really thought we were through for a short time. I finally got the plane under somewhat of a control and giving the old Marauder everything it had we started gaining altitude.

(cont.)

Posted by: rhomboid at February 25, 2023 12:04 PM (OTzUX)

107 Why do I have this thing in my head, something something about Danes and geld... but I don't really know what geld is, so.....
Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:02 PM (M2qSa)

I think that's when they cut your balls off.

Posted by: Metaphorically anyway at February 25, 2023 12:04 PM (C3uQd)

108 You know why Ginger was a better dancer than Fred? High heels and backwards.

Sick of that bullshit too. Traditionally, the male dance partner is the leader and the female dance partner is the follower.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at February 25, 2023 12:04 PM (135ws)

109 It's a great time to be a lesbian, no?

Not even them really. Right now the big concern among lesbians is dealing with DIADs. I've even seen lesbians complained they tried "dating" a DIAD due to peer pressure and then remembering they don't like penis.

I mean...it sounds stupid but leftists work this way.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 25, 2023 12:04 PM (lc5cP)

110 New and Improved So Africa.

Now without electricity.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 25, 2023 12:04 PM (2tUFv)

111 Scott Adams may be on to something.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 25, 2023 12:02 PM (E+05M)

I think that would be a sybian.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:05 PM (M2qSa)

112 Fred Astaire says to Rita Hayworth, all the other girls are doing it one way and you are doing it another.
Would you like to try it with me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh8-Z2bcyTM

Posted by: Braenyard at February 25, 2023 12:05 PM (TTQED)

113 Why do I have this thing in my head, something something about Danes and geld... but I don't really know what geld is, so.....
Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:02 PM (M2qSa)

I think that's when they cut your balls off.
Posted by: Metaphorically anyway at February 25, 2023 12:04 PM (C3uQd)

I knew a guy named Dane. Never liked him. Now I know why.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:05 PM (M2qSa)

114 Slavery existed in any civilization able to military defeat their neighbors.

Well...until a group of "far right wing religious fundamentalists" in Europe and the US decided to try and end slavery.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 25, 2023 12:06 PM (lc5cP)

115 'See the USA in your Chevrolet,
America's the greatest of them all.'
Dinah Shore

Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 12:07 PM (0G42s)

116 The more I've learned about George Washington, beyond the typical and superficial public school stuff, the more I think a serious study of the man should be an entire year's class in high school. (Of course, nobody asked my opinion and today's teachers would completely fuck things up.)

There is so much to the man, his abilities, and his interests that is impressive.

Posted by: JTB at February 25, 2023 12:07 PM (7EjX1)

117 Fred Astaire and Rita Hayworth rockin out

https://tinyurl.com/2urhun84

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Subdued at February 25, 2023 12:07 PM (Ij1UG)

118 There is a reason why students are now furiously searching for any evidence that they have minority ancestry.

==

They should be furiously searching for lawyers, to sue for discrimination.

Posted by: runner at February 25, 2023 12:07 PM (V13WU)

119 Cold out but outside anyway
Posted by: Skip

I just came in.

And my birdbath is STILL frozen !

Posted by: JT at February 25, 2023 12:08 PM (T4tVD)

120 Well...until a group of "far right wing religious fundamentalists" in Europe and the US decided to try and end slavery.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 25, 2023 12:06 PM (lc5cP)

Damn that Wilberforce fellow!

Posted by: All you white supremacists know is force! at February 25, 2023 12:08 PM (C3uQd)

121 Is this the thread for the singing, dancing and praising or is it for the knife fights?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 25, 2023 11:24 AM (Jg7EG)

Both. When you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way..

Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at February 25, 2023 12:08 PM (yQpMk)

122 47 Rude to have a black history month in the middle of both pride century and McCains funeral

Not to mention the celebration of Dr. Jill's graduation, and her recent saving of Africa!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at February 25, 2023 12:08 PM (Xm07S)

123 Reading a collection of Thomas Sowell essays now, "Black Rednecks and White Liberals". I don't entirely agree with his premise that present day black behavior is inherited from white redneck culture but his presentation of the history of slavery and race relations based on facts is brilliant.

Posted by: Some Guy at February 25, 2023 12:08 PM (hTWNl)

124 Black history month, pride month and any other inane celebrations of virtue signaling are the creation of PBS
I'd say it's high time Elmo and Big Bird talk to the fishes
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Subdued at February 25, 2023 11:59 AM (Ij1UG)

This place I moved to, it is my understanding they're always having festivals of one sort or another. When the weather is nice, everyone gathers in the area of town where gatherings occur.

I think it's mainly so people can gather in town. I'm not sure anyone really cares much what they're celebrating. I'm looking forward to participating in those. Once this crappy weather clears up.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:09 PM (M2qSa)

125 The Founding Fathers had many towering intellects. Washington was the man of action. A proto-SEAL if you will.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 25, 2023 12:09 PM (SJsWC)

126 Braenyard

I.like my version better

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Subdued at February 25, 2023 12:09 PM (Ij1UG)

127 "I was never so glad in my life as when my bombardier told me we were in friendly territory. I (illegible) the ship back to the field. We made the landing with the right main tire flat - if I say so myself I did a damn nice job. I held it right on the runway. When I climbed out my arms legs and back were really sore from holding that wheel.

The plane had to be turned in to the service group for major repairs - the ground crew was astounded that we were able to bring it back. Quite a plane."

This was his 36th mission, it lasted 4 hours and 10 minutes. Part of this plane was displayed in the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum for years, not sure if it's still on display.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 25, 2023 12:10 PM (OTzUX)

128 One thing I noticed recently watching videos by Pearl Davis - the women she pulls on to her show range the gambit ethnically, but its almost all black men.

And the black men on her show really get into it with the feminists. The occasional white/asian guy tends to not be as willing to fight.

Hope for the future? Maybe...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 25, 2023 12:11 PM (lc5cP)

129 I started and stopped the one about Black Rednecks, I think the title is "Black Rednecks and White Racists."

Thomas Sowell may be a genius but he is a misguided man. His statement that black gun violence in the North is caused by Black Rednecks coming from the South is absurd.

He also, in the context of white prejudice, stated factually that blacks in the South didn't get indoor plumbing until FDR.

Hey, Thomas, nobody in the South got indoor plumbing until FDR.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 25, 2023 12:11 PM (TTQED)

130 Reading a collection of Thomas Sowell essays now, "Black Rednecks and White Liberals". I don't entirely agree with his premise that present day black behavior is inherited from white redneck culture but his presentation of the history of slavery and race relations based on facts is brilliant.
Posted by: Some Guy at February 25, 2023 12:08 PM (hTWNl)

Oh yeah, that's the name of it. I didn't recall it was a series of essays, but yeah, I don't think I needed to read it. Probably wasn't meant for me.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:11 PM (M2qSa)

131 rhomboid-

Montarbaur is roughly halfway between Frankfurt und Koln (Cologne), a little east of the Rhine. DStill quite a ways behind the front lines.

Was this pilot based out of England, or somewhere on the Continent?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 25, 2023 12:11 PM (ykeLU)

132 They should be furiously searching for lawyers, to sue for discrimination.

Hardy har har. In California? Democrats/Schwarzenegger have appointed all the judges for the last 25 years, which is why the University of California now feels free to engage in open racial discrimination.

California has yes/no judicial elections - you vote out a judge, and the governor appoints his replacement, so voting out left-wing judges is pointless.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 25, 2023 12:11 PM (2tUFv)

133 "Did you ever in your wildest dreams think you descended from the people who laid the foundations for this country?" Henry Louis Gates asks the professor on his PBS show Finding Your Roots. Davis laughs in disbelief and repeats, "Never."

Reparation maffs be very very very harder.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 25, 2023 12:12 PM (BRHaw)

134 116 The more I've learned about George Washington, beyond the typical and superficial public school stuff, the more I think a serious study of the man should be an entire year's class in high school. (Of course, nobody asked my opinion and today's teachers would completely fuck things up.)

There is so much to the man, his abilities, and his interests that is impressive.
Posted by: JTB at February 25, 2023 12:07 PM (7EjX1)

Ate opponents' brains and invented cocaine

Posted by: Saved at February 25, 2023 12:12 PM (C3uQd)

135 Ginger was a better dancer than Fred? But was she better than Mary Ann?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 25, 2023 12:12 PM (le5aY)

136 Opponents beware

Posted by: Saved children but not the British children at February 25, 2023 12:12 PM (C3uQd)

137 Opponents beware

He's coming, he's coming, he's coming

Posted by: Not Sandra fluke at February 25, 2023 12:14 PM (lc5cP)

138 97 ... Fenelon,

Where to start reading Thomas Sowell is a tough question. They are all worthy of your attention. At a guess:
- Basic Economics
- Black Rednecks and White Liberals
- Intellectuals and Society

There are times when I think God put Sowell among us to keep the rest of us humble.

Posted by: JTB at February 25, 2023 12:14 PM (7EjX1)

139 Thomas Sowell may be a genius but he is a misguided man. His statement that black gun violence in the North is caused by Black Rednecks coming from the South is absurd.

He also, in the context of white prejudice, stated factually that blacks in the South didn't get indoor plumbing until FDR.

Hey, Thomas, nobody in the South got indoor plumbing until FDR.
Posted by: Braenyard at February 25, 2023 12:11 PM (TTQED)

In a way, it's kinda like how Jordan Peterson is a voice for young, misguided males.

I'm not one of them, so I don't think I need to read his books, or listen to his lectures. But those who do? His message can be powerful, and life-changing.

If there are people whose views can be influenced and changed by Thomas Sowell, I wish them to read as much of his writing as they can.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:15 PM (M2qSa)

140 He's coming, he's coming, he's coming

*grimaces*

Posted by: Steiner at February 25, 2023 12:15 PM (yQpMk)

141 osted by: The ARC of History! at February 25, 2023 12:11 PM (2tUFv)

looking for a way to fight back might be a better use of time than trying to twist yourself in knots playing the game, looking for nonexistent "minority" ancestors

Posted by: runner at February 25, 2023 12:15 PM (V13WU)

142 ll this race nonsense espoused by black larned skolers will be a thing forgotten in 20 years or so as their little brown brothers from South Of The Border ascend to power and continue to sweep them aside as an after thought from jobs, neighborhoods and kolleges.

Jose don't care much about that slavery stuff.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 25, 2023 12:00 PM (R/m4+)

I agree this will happen

Posted by: JoeF. at February 25, 2023 12:16 PM (mR6Gs)

143 ...if I say so myself I did a damn nice job.

********

Yeah. I'd agree with that assessment. Well done, airman!

Posted by: Muldoon at February 25, 2023 12:16 PM (ykeLU)

144 117 Fred Astaire and Rita Hayworth rockin out

https://tinyurl.com/2urhun84
Posted by: Sock Monkey *
--------------------------------

Thought that was so ghey when I was a kid.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 25, 2023 12:16 PM (TTQED)

145 BTW, Stanford's entering class of 2026 is 22% white.

https://facts.stanford.edu/academics/freshmen-class-profile/

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 25, 2023 12:16 PM (2tUFv)

146 That Fred Astaire/Rita Hayworth clip (set to Led Zep) is fun, but I prefer their dancing to "Shorty George."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJbCJ354c4Q

I love the Astaire/Rogers movies, but for dancing it's Fred and Rita for me.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at February 25, 2023 12:17 PM (fTtFy)

147 BTW, Stanford's entering class of 2026 is 22% white.

https://facts.stanford.edu/academics/freshmen-class-profile/

I would guess a lot of the Hispanic or Latino and Two or more races are "white hispanics" and "Fauxhauntus Indians"

Posted by: Not Sandra fluke at February 25, 2023 12:18 PM (lc5cP)

148 The Founding Fathers had many towering intellects. Washington was the man of action. A proto-SEAL if you will.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 25, 2023 12:09 PM (SJsWC)

And it's good to not deify the guy. His administration included factions that did things behind his back, in some ways similar to how Trump's appointees betrayed him.

And when Washington was faced with a legitimate gripe from Veterans, he was swift to call it a rebellion, and send troops to crush it. Not his finest hour.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:18 PM (M2qSa)

149 I think it is interesting that boy my dad at Anzio and rhomboid's pilot in the skies over the Rnine made specific mention of Washington's Birthday (not President's Day) as something noteworthy and deserving of celebration. A different era.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 25, 2023 12:18 PM (ykeLU)

150 >>> 41 Things are not getting better.
Posted by: blaster at February 25, 2023 11:27 AM (pwExq)

*Looks at toilet paper situation*

I'd say you're right.
Posted by: Robert at February 25, 2023 11:39 AM (1Yy3c)

Is there a nearby Moron who can deliver for Robert Who Delivers All Kinds of Stuff???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 25, 2023 12:18 PM (llON8)

151 looking for a way to fight back might be a better use of time than trying to twist yourself in knots playing the game, looking for nonexistent "minority" ancestors

In California? That's pointless.

I have a grandfather who emigrated from Spain to Puerto Rico, and you bet I would put down "Puerto Rican" on every college application if I were applying today.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 25, 2023 12:19 PM (2tUFv)

152 boy -> both

Posted by: Muldoon at February 25, 2023 12:19 PM (ykeLU)

153 Part of the problem is we still operate under the Democrats "one drop rule". So Obama with white and black ancestors is black.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 25, 2023 11:51 AM (lc5cP)

Obama is literally a definitive example of "mulatto", an individual with one white parent, and one black parent.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 25, 2023 12:19 PM (tkR6S)

154 Santa Anna will be turned into a freedom fighter someday

Posted by: Skip at February 25, 2023 12:19 PM (xhxe8)

155 Muldoon, at this point he was based in the UK. I have yet to thoroughly go through his log and map out his missions (he almost always mentions the target location). I thinkin at some point his squadron moved to the Continent. Railways and transportation seem to have been almost the exclusive targets for his unit, throughout the campaign.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 25, 2023 12:19 PM (OTzUX)

156 He's coming, he's coming, he's coming

----------
*grimaces*
Posted by: Steiner at February 25, 2023 12:15 PM (yQpMk)

Hmmm, I didn't realize Steiner was a pron actress, at the conclusion of a "shoot."

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:20 PM (M2qSa)

157 Is there a nearby Moron who can deliver for Robert Who Delivers All Kinds of Stuff???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 25, 2023 12:18 PM (llON

oh, c'mon, he knows his way to the news stand, doesn't he ?

Posted by: runner at February 25, 2023 12:20 PM (V13WU)

158 Thomas Sowell may be a genius but he is a misguided man. His statement that black gun violence in the North is caused by Black Rednecks coming from the South is absurd.

I think Sowell was talking about how Blacks often seem to have shared behavior with the elite Cavalier set---they often had children from multiple women, fought duels over insignificant slights (disrespect) and spent their time playing cards and doing anything but work.

I think this argument has some merit and i don't see it as blaming present white southerners for black problems

Posted by: JoeF. at February 25, 2023 12:20 PM (mR6Gs)

159 Thought that was so ghey when I was a kid.

Posted by: Braenyard

Zombie John Bonham disagrees

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Subdued at February 25, 2023 12:21 PM (Ij1UG)

160 Muldoon, I noticed the same thing about GW's birthday being mentioned.

Past is now not just a different country, but a different universe, it seems.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 25, 2023 12:21 PM (OTzUX)

161 >>>Both. When you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way..

Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you

>When's Puerto Rican Month? We need to get AOC on this ASAP.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 25, 2023 12:22 PM (Jg7EG)

162 Thomas Sowell's book are fantastic...he has the rare ability to translate economic gobbledygook into plain English.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Yes. Brilliant writer and analyst. Should be required reading, but he says too many inconvenient truths!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This October in Corsicana- again! ~ at February 25, 2023 12:22 PM (hOUT3)

163 I can dress up, but Ginger can't cook.

Posted by: Mary Ann at February 25, 2023 12:23 PM (DhOHl)

164 Santa Anna will be turned into a freedom fighter someday
Posted by: Skip

Anna Puma

Posted by: JT at February 25, 2023 12:23 PM (T4tVD)

165 Is there a nearby Moron who can deliver for Robert Who Delivers All Kinds of Stuff???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 25, 2023 12:18 PM (llON

I have some dead leaves in my yard. I can brush the snow off them, and run some of them by.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:23 PM (M2qSa)

166 Gonna go make biscuits (no, you perverted retards, no euphemism here), so won't be able to respond now if there are questions about the B-26 pilot.

And "race" is still nothing to me, and never can be made to be anything to me. My great fortune in timing of birth and upbringing.

Which will make me an outsider in my own degraded society for the balance of my run. Oh well.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 25, 2023 12:24 PM (OTzUX)

167 >>>If there are people whose views can be influenced and changed by Thomas Sowell, I wish them to read as much of his writing as they can.
Posted by: BurtTC
-------------------

Incorrect history and misinterpretation of events taken as fact does not help a person grow intellectually or culturally. It does not help readers integrate into society.
He is a distortion merchant.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 25, 2023 12:24 PM (TTQED)

168 What's a news stand?

Posted by: Twenty year olds at February 25, 2023 12:25 PM (DhOHl)

169 There aren't enough months in the year to satisfy every ethnopolitical group and we should stop this nonsense now, because if we don't, Muslim MONTH is right around the corner

Posted by: JoeF. at February 25, 2023 12:26 PM (mR6Gs)

170 Debbie D,
Responded last thread, Providence now, looking forward to being buried back in Scituate, but not just yet.

Posted by: From about that Time at February 25, 2023 12:26 PM (4780s)

171 Stanford isn't big on White students.... My Daughter was dating a boy who was from a well to do Family. He had a 4.5 GPA was a track star , volunteered in the Community and won ever Academic award you could get... He did not get into Stanford... He was a white Male.... Another friend of My Daughters was one quarter Indian, feather not dot, and a 3.5 GPA... She got in... Flunked out after one Semester... Boyfriend went to West point.... And this was many years ago...

Posted by: It's me donna at February 25, 2023 12:27 PM (bs+z0)

172 If there are people whose views can be influenced and changed by Thomas Sowell, I wish them to read as much of his writing as they can.
Posted by: BurtTC
-------------------

Incorrect history and misinterpretation of events taken as fact does not help a person grow intellectually or culturally. It does not help readers integrate into society.
He is a distortion merchant.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 25, 2023 12:24 PM (TTQED)

I'm not going to argue with you, but your one example, he said southern blacks didn't get plumbing until FDR, isn't untrue. It may not be very useful to point that out to southern whites who ALSO didn't get plumbing until FDR, but it isn't untrue.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:27 PM (M2qSa)

173 What's a news stand?
Posted by: Twenty year olds

Its that thing next to the lotto machine in the 7/11 or CircleK.

Posted by: runner at February 25, 2023 12:27 PM (V13WU)

174 There aren't enough months in the year to satisfy every ethnopolitical group and we should stop this nonsense now, because if we don't, Muslim MONTH is right around the corner
Posted by: JoeF. at February 25, 2023 12:26 PM (mR6Gs)

Make more months.

Duh.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:28 PM (M2qSa)

175 Is there a nearby Moron who can deliver for Robert Who Delivers All Kinds of Stuff???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 25, 2023 12:18 PM (llON

Ties roll of bumf to the collar of St. Bernard dog.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 25, 2023 12:29 PM (tkR6S)

176 Black history is unknown. There is no written record. And the oral traditions of Makumba are suspect.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at February 25, 2023 12:30 PM (TXFi7)

177 What's a news stand?
Posted by: Twenty year olds

A museum piece, just like a milk machine, a cigarette machine, a DVD kiosk and a Fotomat

Posted by: JoeF. at February 25, 2023 12:30 PM (mR6Gs)

178 Diogenes ought to appreciate this one what with being an Arty guy:

Feb 27, 1944
Cloudy and rainy. Visibility practically nil. Gerry is still working on the British. “Other” fronts fairly quiet. We fired some really heavy concentrations on some of his arty positions. 120 guns converged in one instance. Hope that softens him up.

Dad could be a master of understatement at times.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 25, 2023 12:31 PM (ykeLU)

179 Black history is unknown. There is no written record. And the oral traditions of Makumba are suspect.

I was reading about some of the early conquests of sub-Saharan Africa by Arab/Berber Muslims.

The black african's history is very limited as you note, but the Muslims did record about all the people they killed/enslaved.

Oddly this is not covered in modern college courses.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 25, 2023 12:32 PM (lc5cP)

180 I can dress up, but Ginger can't cook.
Posted by: Mary Ann at February 25, 2023 12:23 PM (DhOHl)

Ginger's a pretty good cook, sittin' on her groceries...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 25, 2023 12:32 PM (tkR6S)

181 The square dance was the only dance I was allowed to go near because I have two left feet.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 25, 2023 12:33 PM (Jg7EG)

182 This is funny:

From the Bee-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkzaUfAxe1I

Take me to your leader...

Posted by: naturalfake at February 25, 2023 12:34 PM (KLPy8)

183 Diogenes ought to appreciate this one what with being an Arty guy:

Feb 27, 1944
Cloudy and rainy. Visibility practically nil. Gerry is still working on the British. “Other” fronts fairly quiet. We fired some really heavy concentrations on some of his arty positions. 120 guns converged in one instance. Hope that softens him up.

Dad could be a master of understatement at times.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 25, 2023 12:31 PM (ykeLU)
***

I'm just a little aroused reading that!

Posted my Desert Storm Feb 25 notes in the previous thread.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 12:34 PM (anj39)

184 A different era.

Seems so very far removed from where we are at presently. My Pop served in the European Theater. I occasionally go through the stuff he left me re. his wartime service. I still marvel at how much simpler and straightforward the culture was at the time.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 25, 2023 12:34 PM (Xrfse)

185 >>>I'm not going to argue with you, but your one example, he said southern blacks didn't get plumbing until FDR, isn't untrue. It may not be very useful to point that out to southern whites who ALSO didn't get plumbing until FDR, but it isn't untrue.
Posted by: BurtTC
------------------------

Sowell's point on plumbing in the South was bias against blacks which is untrue. Blacks and whites got indoor plumbing at the same time. He distorts the truth by omission.

If one accepts the Gell-Mann amnesia effect then one must consider Sowell's words suspect.

Gell-Mann amnesia effect

Posted by: Braenyard at February 25, 2023 12:35 PM (TTQED)

186 I had forgotten that Angela Davis was Gus Hall's running mate.

How cool is it that a former CIA director voted for Angela Davis!

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at February 25, 2023 12:37 PM (gf7Ez)

187 Norfolk Southern gets into the windmill biz:
https://tinyurl.com/fjn9ensd

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 12:39 PM (MvF+J)

188 I had a friend, now passed away, who flew in WW II, Korea, and Vietnam. Started flying Marauders. He said you had to fly it every minute.

Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 12:39 PM (0G42s)

189 I used to be a thing.

Posted by: Blockbuster Video at February 25, 2023 12:40 PM (DhOHl)

190 Diogenes ought to appreciate this one what with being an Arty guy

Actually I'm Military Intelligence, but was detailed to artillery upon commissioning. And all my "2" time was with artillery units. So yeah, love that Redleg stuff.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 12:41 PM (anj39)

191 I'm just a little aroused reading that!

Posted by: Diogenes

******

Heh. TMI.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 25, 2023 12:41 PM (ykeLU)

192
The square dance was the only dance I was allowed to go near because I have two left feet.
Posted by: Dr. Bone

Are they square feet?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 25, 2023 12:44 PM (63Dwl)

193 Black history is unknown. There is no written record. And the oral traditions of Makumba are suspect.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at February 25, 2023 12:30 PM (TXFi7)

Related, in its own way: Recently MLB decided to include the records from the Negro Leagues into the official statistics of the game, adding players who played prior to the color barrier being lifted, into the record books.

So now there are lists of players whose exploits were mostly known through oral and written narrative, who have numbers incorporated into MLB record books.

Except everyone who knows, knows those numbers are not even close to accurate.

Oh well, if it makes somebody somewhere feel better, I guess that's what is important.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:44 PM (M2qSa)

194 For BHM, I've been collecting some of the anecdotes about celebrated black STEM folx. Some of them really are notable, but some are a real stretch. Here is MIT celebrating their first black female student, enrolled in 1905:

https://tinyurl.com/rv8wwkwr

Ooops: "Her academic performance, however, was poor, likely due to illness. Both she and her brother both dropped out of MIT by 1907, though later identified as Class of 1909 alumni."

(Gotta love the "identified as" graduated.) She went on to become a scholar of "peddler dolls."

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 12:45 PM (MvF+J)

195 [ithey often had children from multiple women, fought duels over insignificant slights (disrespect) and spent their time playing cards and doing anything but work.

In the near future, anyone claiming Them People are genetically incapable of greatness and We'uns are Born To Rule is going to have to deal with The Problem of The Murdaughs.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 25, 2023 12:46 PM (jYCXf)

196 Posted my Desert Storm Feb 25 notes in the previous thread.
Posted by: Diogenes

****

Yeah, I saw that, but steered clear of that thread due to the primary topics being what they were.

My dad( if referring to the inaccurate intelligence reports about 10 Iraqi vehicles turning into an entire brigade) would have called it "the fog of war"

Posted by: Muldoon at February 25, 2023 12:46 PM (ykeLU)

197 Sowell's point on plumbing in the South was bias against blacks which is untrue. Blacks and whites got indoor plumbing at the same time. He distorts the truth by omission.

If one accepts the Gell-Mann amnesia effect then one must consider Sowell's words suspect.

Gell-Mann amnesia effect
Posted by: Braenyard at February 25, 2023 12:35 PM (TTQED)

Like I said, I didn't read the book. You say that's his point, maybe it is. And also as I said, I'm not going to argue with you.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:46 PM (M2qSa)

198 Well, it is a vegetable.

This guy survived for weeks at sea on ketchup. Now Heinz wants to buy him a brand new boat.

https://bit.ly/3Ssk65Z

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 25, 2023 12:47 PM (FVME7)

199 The cool thing about artillery is so much goes into firing a 200 lb projectile (8 inch howitzer) 15 miles and hitting within 5 yards of your aim point. Temperature of the air and the powder, winds aloft, the rotation of the earth, the elevation of the gun and the target. The math is really fascinating.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 12:47 PM (anj39)

200 In the near future, anyone claiming Them People are genetically incapable of greatness and We'uns are Born To Rule is going to have to deal with The Problem of The Murdaughs.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 25, 2023 12:46 PM (jYCXf)

Oh, I saw that documentary!

What a bunch of ginger arseholes. Can we not all agree, gingers are bad? On this one thing, can we not ALL agree???

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:48 PM (M2qSa)

201 I have two left feet.
Posted by: Dr. Bone

*******

That just ain't right!

Posted by: Muldoon at February 25, 2023 12:49 PM (ykeLU)

202 Speaking of vegetables . . .

https://bit.ly/3SBXobG

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 25, 2023 12:49 PM (FVME7)

203 Anonosaurus Wrecks @ 198-
Tha guy could have gone 2 months on Hunt's kechup

Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 12:50 PM (0G42s)

204 The cool thing about artillery is so much goes into firing a 200 lb projectile (8 inch howitzer) 15 miles and hitting within 5 yards of your aim point. Temperature of the air and the powder, winds aloft, the rotation of the earth, the elevation of the gun and the target. The math is really fascinating.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 12:47 PM (anj39)

Yes, so much goes into it.

Especially the infantryman in the forward observation position, telling you how close to your target your rounds are landing.

Otherwise, the arties would be SOL.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:50 PM (M2qSa)

205 The math is really fascinating.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 12:47 PM (anj39)

A lot of the early work in analysis in the 17th-ish c. came from people getting commissioned to figure crap out about ballistics, wasn't it?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 25, 2023 12:50 PM (9UlRk)

206 An important part of Black History that must never be forgotten is their irreplaceable contribution to the space program:

https://youtu.be/T6xJzAYYrX8

Posted by: PBS at February 25, 2023 12:51 PM (DhOHl)

207 So FDR was a plumber, who knew ?

Posted by: JT at February 25, 2023 12:52 PM (T4tVD)

208 The math is really fascinating.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 12:47 PM (anj39)

*******

Here's a question. In 15 mile shot, how much deviation does the Coriolis effect introduce? I expect the time in flight of the projectile comes into that calculation, but give me an idea of the degree of magnitude. Are we talking a few yards, a football field...a furlong? a hogshead?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 25, 2023 12:53 PM (ykeLU)

209 powers back on

I feel white again

and during black history month

Posted by: REDACTED at February 25, 2023 12:53 PM (us2H3)

210 You know the tomato never really took off as a hand fruit.

https://youtu.be/GpUQyXI0Sns

Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at February 25, 2023 12:54 PM (DhOHl)

211 I still marvel at how much simpler and straightforward the culture was at the time.

Because we were not multi-cultural yet.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at February 25, 2023 12:55 PM (TXFi7)

212 My dad( if referring to the inaccurate intelligence reports about 10 Iraqi vehicles turning into an entire brigade) would have called it "the fog of war"
Posted by: Muldoon at February 25, 2023 12:46 PM (ykeLU)

Your dad would of been right.
When I was teaching at the MI skool, one of the hardest things to get done properly was this simple task:
The Observer calls in a report...Three enemy tanks at grid 123456.
The radio guy writes down "3 tanks" and grid 123456.
The intel analyst now has to post the map. What does he/she do? Put three tank symbols on the map, or use a Tank platoon symbol? Teaching young troops to make this synaptic leap is hard.
And then...tank platoons never travel alone. New intwl.requirement is where is the rest of the tank company?

Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 12:55 PM (anj39)

213 You totally miss the part where Pete Buttigieg was giving "Black History Month" talks instead of helping the people of East Palestine, Ohio.

Posted by: Isophorone at February 25, 2023 12:55 PM (biHDK)

214 I used to be a thing.
Posted by: Blockbuster Video at February 25, 2023 12:40 PM (DhOHl)

Hahaha..yup. There was one sitting empty in my AO and it was recently turned into a pot dispensary.

I remember all the dumb asses going in there and getting shitty movies to waste away the hours.

Same idiots will be going in there now to get their weed to waste away the hours now.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 25, 2023 12:55 PM (R/m4+)

215 So FDR was a plumber, who knew ?
Posted by: JT at February 25, 2023 12:52 PM (T4tVD)

But his wife was more of a carpet layer.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:56 PM (M2qSa)

216 I could look a 500 lot auction and within 20 minutes, could tell you everything in the sale that you could really rip people with

it's not much but it's a living

Posted by: REDACTED at February 25, 2023 12:56 PM (us2H3)

217 So FDR was a plumber, who knew ?
Posted by: JT at February 25, 2023 12:52 PM (T4tVD)

But his wife was more of a carpet layer.
Posted by: BurtTC

ISWYDT

Posted by: JT at February 25, 2023 12:57 PM (T4tVD)

218 grid 123456.

******

That would make a nice on-line password. And lock combination for my luggage!

Posted by: Muldoon at February 25, 2023 12:57 PM (ykeLU)

219 Same idiots will be going in there now to get their weed to waste away the hours now.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 25, 2023 12:55 PM (R/m4+)

So sad... makes me want to head to the bar.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 12:58 PM (M2qSa)

220 Favorite Sowell Quote: When asked why he jettisoned Marxism, he replied "Facts".

Posted by: Hal Dall MD at February 25, 2023 12:58 PM (mkldx)

221 >>>Are they square feet?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

>Different square. Square as in not cool, daddy-o, as in looks like he's stomping grapes or cockroaches.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 25, 2023 12:58 PM (Jg7EG)

222 Heinz wants to buy him a brand new boat.

I don't suppose there's a way to foreclose on Kerry's?

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 25, 2023 01:00 PM (jYCXf)

223 grid 123456.

******

That would make a nice on-line password. And lock combination for my luggage!
Posted by: Muldoon at February 25, 2023 12:57 PM (ykeLU)

Say, that's an idea. We always have those pesky Russians and North Koreans stealing our data. We could use something like this to protect it!

Posted by: Your Government at February 25, 2023 01:01 PM (M2qSa)

224 218 grid 123456.

******

That would make a nice on-line password. And lock combination for my luggage!
Posted by: Muldoon
_____________

Thanks! You wouldn't by any chance have any fabulous clothes in your luggage, would you?

Posted by: Sam Brinton at February 25, 2023 01:03 PM (gf7Ez)

225 "I could look a 500 lot auction and within 20 minutes, could tell you everything in the sale that you could really rip people with

it's not much but it's a living"

My ex-gf and I did great reselling garage-sale finds on eBay. People have no idea what they have or what it's worth. An econ prof would say we were arbitraging prices between an inefficient market and an efficient one.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 01:04 PM (MvF+J)

226 They should be furiously searching for lawyers, to sue for discrimination.
---
You mean in the courts packed to the gills with Priests of Woke?

This is about power.
They have it, they use it and they mean to hold it. Crying to the ref wearing their jersey is dumb.

I don't know the answer but it's not in the rulebook.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 25, 2023 01:05 PM (5EnGD)

227 Here's a question. In 15 mile shot, how much deviation does the Coriolis effect introduce? I expect the time in flight of the projectile comes into that calculation, but give me an idea of the degree of magnitude. Are we talking a few yards, a football field...a furlong? a hogshead?
Posted by: Muldoon at February 25, 2023 12:53 PM (ykeLU)

Oh jeez...its been decades since I worked in a FDC.
15 miles is close to max range so time of flight will be 40 seconds (give or take). Depending on the latitude, and given standard temperature, I'd call it a scooch. Maybe a tad. But the bursting radius is 80 meters So it really doesn't matter.
Short answer, not very much but for precision shooting it becomes important.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 01:05 PM (anj39)

228 Thanks! You wouldn't by any chance have any fabulous clothes in your luggage, would you?
Posted by: Sam Brinton at February 25, 2023 01:03 PM (gf7Ez)

This is why I always use a duffel bag when I travel. And don't lose a few more pounds... to keep Sammi out of my luggage.

Oh, and also why I don't wear wammen's clothing.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:06 PM (M2qSa)

229 "Oh jeez...its been decades since I worked in a FDC."

All the same, I'm glad you aren't shooting at me

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 01:06 PM (MvF+J)

230 An early TS book, not intensely political.
Ethnic America.
I learned a lot from this book including about "Black Jews", the often very successful descendants of West Indian blacks. It's not color, it's culture.

Posted by: Hal Dall MD at February 25, 2023 01:07 PM (mkldx)

231 The math is really fascinating.
Posted by: Diogenes

* checks rulebook, eyeballs Mr. D*

You some kinda rule breaker?

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Subdued at February 25, 2023 01:09 PM (Ij1UG)

232 My ex-gf and I did great reselling garage-sale finds on eBay. People have no idea what they have or what it's worth. An econ prof would say we were arbitraging prices between an inefficient market and an efficient one.
Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 01:04 PM (MvF+J)

I got addicted when I was 10

quit when i was 60, totally burned out

a great way to make money but ultimately, a soulless biz

Posted by: REDACTED at February 25, 2023 01:09 PM (us2H3)

233 Here's a question. In 15 mile shot, how much deviation does the Coriolis effect introduce? I expect the time in flight of the projectile comes into that calculation, but give me an idea of the degree of magnitude. Are we talking a few yards, a football field...a furlong? a hogshead?
Posted by: Muldoon

Two axe handles and a plug of tobacco.

Posted by: RhubarbRanch at February 25, 2023 01:10 PM (l5ftB)

234 My ex-gf and I did great reselling garage-sale finds on eBay. People have no idea what they have or what it's worth. An econ prof would say we were arbitraging prices between an inefficient market and an efficient one.
Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 01:04 PM (MvF+J)

I know people who are crooks, who go to sales and say to the seller "oh, this is junk, but I'll take it off your hands for $15," then turn around and sell it for $1500.

Sometimes people just want to get rid of things, and if fine if you recognize the value of something, and they don't. You're doing them a favor taking it off their hands, and they're doing you a favor by letting your knowledge make you a little something something out of it.

But yeah, just don't lie to people.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:11 PM (M2qSa)

235 Do they celebrate Black History Month in Africa? Just wondering.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at February 25, 2023 01:12 PM (MAZAY)

236 You some kinda rule breaker?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Subdued at February 25, 2023 01:09 PM (Ij1UG)

No way!
I've seen the barrel and never want to go back!
I didn't do a single goezinta, takesaway, or a timesez.
I'm innocent I tell ya! Innocent!

Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 01:12 PM (anj39)

237
What a bunch of ginger arseholes. Can we not all agree, gingers are bad? On this one thing, can we not ALL agree???
Posted by: BurtTC

* looks at twinge of red that still remains in the stache *

Yep

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Subdued at February 25, 2023 01:12 PM (Ij1UG)

238 Oh jeez...its been decades since I worked in a FDC.
15 miles is close to max range so time of flight will be 40 seconds (give or take). Depending on the latitude, and given standard temperature, I'd call it a scooch. Maybe a tad. But the bursting radius is 80 meters So it really doesn't matter.
Short answer, not very much but for precision shooting it becomes important.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 01:05 PM (anj39)

Most effective method of controlling fires that I experienced was the use of pre- calculated register points. The FO's would direct fire on a compass perspective from those points.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 25, 2023 01:13 PM (BdMk6)

239 204 The cool thing about artillery is so much goes into firing a 200 lb projectile ...Temperature of the air and the powder,
---------------------

Visions of CBD with his thermometers.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 25, 2023 01:14 PM (TTQED)

240 But yeah, just don't lie to people.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:11 PM (M2qSa)

define "lying"

Posted by: REDACTED at February 25, 2023 01:14 PM (us2H3)

241 Yes, pretty sure the whole branch Trigonometry 'derives' from artillery calculation. Make syo uthink of the Olympic definition of sport, that the only real ones start out as war.

Eighth grade new-math binomial factoring would have been a lot more fun if the teacher had known it was for making rocket fuel. But teachers in those days just didn't. It was puzzle work. Calc teacher basically said 'Learn this trick. You'll thank me someday." No clue. You were expected to write your own story problems.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 25, 2023 01:14 PM (jYCXf)

242 234 Maybe the dumbest thing garage-sale sellers do is to keep their cash in a box at a table, just begging to get snatched. Couple of times we had to warn sellers they had unattended cash sitting in a blind spot. People are so naive and trusting.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 01:15 PM (MvF+J)

243 Hark !

Snow flurries !

Posted by: JT at February 25, 2023 01:16 PM (T4tVD)

244 Most effective method of controlling fires that I experienced was the use of pre- calculated register points. The FO's would direct fire on a compass perspective from those points.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 25, 2023 01:13 PM (BdMk6)

"Grid square in the open" was my favorite CFF.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at February 25, 2023 01:16 PM (MAZAY)

245 Most effective method of controlling fires that I experienced was the use of pre- calculated register points. The FO's would direct fire on a compass perspective from those points.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 25, 2023 01:13 PM (BdMk6)

Agreed.
He problem was if you register too many times, enemy counter battery radars can find you. So, offset registrations. (More cool math!).
I liked polar plots. Very easy. But easy to locate the FO after a few missions.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 01:18 PM (anj39)

246 Angela Davis being from a slave owner family is much funnier than the Mayflower connection. No wonder she acts like a white supremacist.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 25, 2023 01:18 PM (8GBH4)

247 Dermatologist on Monday, I'm tortured by a beautiful woman doctor at least twice a year.

Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 01:18 PM (z3WCn)

248 Did laugh at Angela Davis and the other African American people of note who discovered they are genetically part White Devil. Did they all forget the song "Brown Sugar"? Did they all forget the horny old master from Roots? There are very few "100% African" African Americans. Just about all of them have White, "White Hispanic", Native American, or "Native American Hispanic" bloodlines. And right now interracial couples & families are the new hotness. Yeah, that 1619 Project BS will be going nowhere as a bunch of supposed African Americans have to decide which side of the Oppressor line they should be on...or if there should even be a line.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 25, 2023 01:19 PM (W+kMI)

249 my wife would always chide me for asking for a discount even it was way unpriced

I told her "it's the princilple of the deal"

she asked me who " the principal was ?"

she was a 10 but dumber than dirt

Posted by: REDACTED at February 25, 2023 01:19 PM (us2H3)

250 What a bunch of ginger arseholes. Can we not all agree, gingers are bad? On this one thing, can we not ALL agree???
Posted by: BurtTC

* looks at twinge of red that still remains in the stache *

Yep
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Subdued at February 25, 2023 01:12 PM (Ij1UG)

Heh, self recognition is very important.

That being said, the story of the Murdaugh's, that's just awful. It starts with the death of a sweet, beautiful 19 year old girl... and goes downhill from there.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:20 PM (M2qSa)

251 But yeah, just don't lie to people.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:11 PM (M2qSa)

define "lying"
Posted by: REDACTED at February 25, 2023 01:14 PM (us2H3)

Hmmm, no, I don't think I will. We all pretty much know it when we see/feel it.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:21 PM (M2qSa)

252 I was told ther was no maths. I brought my anatomy book.

Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 01:21 PM (z3WCn)

253 "The math is really fascinating."

Artillery control was the very first computer app.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, gimpy edition at February 25, 2023 01:21 PM (jTmQV)

254
"Grid square in the open" was my favorite CFF.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at February 25, 2023 01:16 PM (MAZAY)

Request zone and sweep, over.

*sits back, lights up cigar"

Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 01:22 PM (anj39)

255 One of my fave garage-sale finds (nowhere near the most lucrative,) was an inclinometer. It's a little aluminum bar with a couple of spirit levels in it; I guess cavers use it, I didn't know what it was.) It was marked twenty-five cents, sold for $75.

My gf cleaned up in every category; she knew the eBay prices of everything. She hit big on an old $1 Dawn doll (sold for $750,) several pieces of fine art, and jewelry. She taught me everything about inspecting precious metals.

Lot of categories cooled off after the Antiques Roadshow phenomenon faltered.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 01:22 PM (MvF+J)

256 Dermatologist on Monday, I'm tortured by a beautiful woman doctor at least twice a year.
Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 01:18 PM (z3WCn)

So you got that going for you. Which is nice.

I had an eye doctor who was a knockout. Once a year wasn't enough. So I took my kids in to get their eyes checked.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:23 PM (M2qSa)

257 Agreed.
He problem was if you register too many times, enemy counter battery radars can find you. So, offset registrations. (More cool math!).
I liked polar plots. Very easy. But easy to locate the FO after a few missions.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 01:18 PM (anj39)

Yup. FO's needed to be mobile.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 25, 2023 01:24 PM (BdMk6)

258 It starts with the death of a sweet, beautiful 19 year old girl... and goes downhill from there.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:20 PM (M2qSa)

That's when it started unraveling...it goes back much further.

Posted by: BignJames at February 25, 2023 01:26 PM (AwYPR)

259 A co-worker is into finding art treasures at auctions and yard sales, often claim ds thing he gets are worth way more than paid for. No idea if so.

Posted by: Skip at February 25, 2023 01:27 PM (xhxe8)

260 It starts with the death of a sweet, beautiful 19 year old girl... and goes downhill from there.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:20 PM (M2qSa)

That's when it started unraveling...it goes back much further.
Posted by: BignJames at February 25, 2023 01:26 PM (AwYPR)

Yup... when did the great grandpappy open the law firm, 1910? Probably starts there.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:27 PM (M2qSa)

261 Varangian Chronicler is correct about that slave uprising in Abbassid Iraq. It was huge, and threatened the security of what at that time was the largest empire west of China. Like many things that happened east of the Crusades, I never learned about it until my university days, and then in a book that was not part of class reading.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 25, 2023 01:27 PM (W+kMI)

262 Garage sales are best, because they are the most inefficient markets (sellers have poor pricing info.) Estate sales and auctions generally suck, because you are competing with buyers who know what stuff is worth, and there's also the middleman markup.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 01:27 PM (MvF+J)

263 I have a box of business cards with a tweet from the Ida Bae Wells account that says:

Tipping is a legacy of slavery and if it's not optional then it shouldn't be a tip but simply included in the bill. Have you ever stopped to think why we tip, like why tipping is a practice in the US and almost nowhere else?

On the back it says 'The 1619 Project'.

I keep a couple of these in my wallet so that in the event that I am ever waited on by a woke, leftist server or bartender that espouses the whole narrative I can will be left on the table in lieu of a tip.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 25, 2023 01:28 PM (Zqeqr)

264
What a bunch of ginger arseholes. Can we
not all agree, gingers are bad? On this one thing, can we not ALL agree???
Posted by: BurtTC

Personally, if we are generalizing, I tend to look askance at blondes because they have way too much fun. Evil comes in all shades of color but, admittedly, the Murdaughs don't give us gingers a good look

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Subdued at February 25, 2023 01:28 PM (Ij1UG)

265 259 A co-worker is into finding art treasures at auctions and yard sales, often claim ds thing he gets are worth way more than paid for. No idea if so.
====
Only the wise appraisers of Antique Road House know for certain.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 25, 2023 01:29 PM (W+kMI)

266 when I was 11, I bought a early 19th century serpentine fire fender from the Regency period at a small house sale

it was a bit disheveled and although the finials were present, they had rotted off the frame

a whole 1 buck

Posted by: REDACTED at February 25, 2023 01:29 PM (us2H3)

267 A co-worker is into finding art treasures at auctions and yard sales, often claim ds thing he gets are worth way more than paid for. No idea if so.
Posted by: Skip at February 25, 2023 01:27 PM (xhxe

If I went to yard sales, which I don't, I'd be looking in the baseball cards section. I could probably clean up big, but then I'd be the damn fool saying "this Mantle you have here, marked $5... you know it's worth about 100 times that much, don't you?"

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:29 PM (M2qSa)

268 Did this murdering fuck invent the cure for COVID?

Why is a local story dominating national news?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 25, 2023 01:29 PM (Jg7EG)

269 Full body scan?

Posted by: Braenyard at February 25, 2023 01:30 PM (TTQED)

270 I love Antiques Roadshow. Always some fun, even when people think they have an original but it turns out to be a reproduction.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, gimpy edition at February 25, 2023 01:31 PM (jTmQV)

271 Just a question, do they still use balloons to spot targets?

Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 01:31 PM (z3WCn)

272 There was a receptionist at my wife's dentist.

Holy moley. So freaking gorgeous.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at February 25, 2023 01:32 PM (TXFi7)

273 What a bunch of ginger arseholes. Can we
not all agree, gingers are bad? On this one thing, can we not ALL agree???
Posted by: BurtTC

Personally, if we are generalizing, I tend to look askance at blondes because they have way too much fun. Evil comes in all shades of color but, admittedly, the Murdaughs don't give us gingers a good look

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Subdued at February 25, 2023 01:28 PM (Ij1UG)

The bible says something or other about rich men and the eyes of needles (which isn't exactly what people think it is, but not the point... heh, he said point). Probably quite similar to good looking people.

It doesn't make you a bad person (not that I would know), but it's probably harder to be a decent virtuous person when everyone you meet looks at you like you're special.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:32 PM (M2qSa)

274 If I went to yard sales, which I don't, I'd be looking in the baseball cards section. I could probably clean up big, but then I'd be the damn fool saying "this Mantle you have here, marked $5... you know it's worth about 100 times that much, don't you?"

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:29 PM (M2qSa)

If something is worth $$...there's a forgery/fake of it out there, too.

Posted by: BignJames at February 25, 2023 01:33 PM (AwYPR)

275 Did I mention that garage sales are awesome for finding good tools, the kind you keep instead of sell?

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 01:33 PM (MvF+J)

276 There was a receptionist at my wife's dentist.

Holy moley. So freaking gorgeous.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at February 25, 2023 01:32 PM (TXFi7)

When the dentist has your wife under the gas, go in and say "hey doc, can I borrow that?"

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:34 PM (M2qSa)

277 I've gotten some pretty good stuff for 25 cents at garage sales, craftsman usa tools for instance. Of course, its the time that is the cost, but about twice a summer, the wife and I will go "garage-sailing" for a morning just for kicks.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 25, 2023 01:34 PM (8GBH4)

278 Just a question, do they still use balloons to spot targets?
Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 01:31 PM (z3WCn)

You're really asking this after last week's balloon fiasco?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 25, 2023 01:35 PM (BdMk6)

279 I love Antiques Roadshow. Always some fun, even when people think they have an original but it turns out to be a reproduction.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, gimpy edition at February 25, 2023 01:31 PM (jTmQV)

I remember a guy w/a repro "fish" weathervane...said he paid $5k for it...was worth maybe $100.

Posted by: BignJames at February 25, 2023 01:36 PM (AwYPR)

280 Just a question, do they still use balloons to spot targets?
Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 01:31 PM (z3WCn)

No! Nope! Not at all!!!

Posted by: China Intelligence Agency at February 25, 2023 01:36 PM (anj39)

281 The 1st thing about the 1619 Project that caught my attention is that it attempts to supersede in my mind the importance of the Mayflower Compact (1620)

Posted by: Rex B at February 25, 2023 01:37 PM (F59oH)

282 If I went to yard sales, which I don't, I'd be looking in the baseball cards section. I could probably clean up big, but then I'd be the damn fool saying "this Mantle you have here, marked $5... you know it's worth about 100 times that much, don't you?"

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:29 PM (M2qSa)

If something is worth $$...there's a forgery/fake of it out there, too.
Posted by: BignJames at February 25, 2023 01:33 PM (AwYPR)

I'm sure that's true. I've never heard of a large forgery market for baseball cards though... I'm sure they exist. But I'm not in that part of the market, I don't want anything that has a PSA rating. If there's a bit of fuzz around the corner, or the face is slightly faded, that's fine by me.

Some of those Mantle cards (and Ryan cards and Rose cards and a handful of others), the PSA 9s and 10s go for tens or hundreds of thousands, if not millions. But the non-rated, very good to near mint ones, sell in the hundreds.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:37 PM (M2qSa)

283 I really need to do a garage sale. I've 20 years of crap to get rid of.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 01:37 PM (anj39)

284 Mrs. Sock just told me, and I quote, " cartoons are over, time to go take off your lay about lounging pants, put on your big boy work pants and go take care of your animals ". Guess break time is over

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Subdued at February 25, 2023 01:38 PM (Ij1UG)

285 "I remember a guy w/a repro "fish" weathervane...said he paid $5k for it...was worth maybe $100."

It must have gotten the descending bassoon music.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, gimpy edition at February 25, 2023 01:38 PM (jTmQV)

286 If we floated 100 balloons over their field would they give up their position? If all the balloons carried tech would it be worth it?

Posted by: Braenyard at February 25, 2023 01:38 PM (TTQED)

287 The American Indians established slavery well before the Mayflower landed. That was just a part of losing the battle.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 25, 2023 01:39 PM (8GBH4)

288 "I remember a guy w/a repro "fish" weathervane...said he paid $5k for it...was worth maybe $100."

I saw a guy bid $9K on a 'totem pole' at a live auction. He won it, and he walked up on stage to get it, and didn't even know what he had bought, had to have it pointed out to him.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 01:39 PM (MvF+J)

289 At sales I go to the garage/barn/shed and Mrs. E goes in the house. When you leave with some new in the box bath towels, good kitchen knives, and a socket set (yes even the 10mm), that's a good day.

Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 01:40 PM (z3WCn)

290 283 I really need to do a garage sale. I've 20 years of crap to get rid of.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 01:37 PM (anj39)

if you put it a truck and bring it over

I'll give ya a couple dollars for the whole pile

Posted by: REDACTED at February 25, 2023 01:40 PM (us2H3)

291 >>>Just a question, do they still use balloons to spot targets?
Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 01:31 PM (z3WCn)

>Weather balloons are used to calculate wind chill. If your missile misses the target, it means it's gusting very hard.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 25, 2023 01:41 PM (Jg7EG)

292 I like the Antique Roadshows where somebody brings something truly honking Valuable, which they have destroyed by 'restoring' or 'cleaning' it. Never ever disturb the original patina!!

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 01:41 PM (MvF+J)

293 "I've 20 years of crap to get rid of."

Decluttering is liberating. It feels good.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 01:42 PM (MvF+J)

294 Rex B at February 25, 2023 01:37 PM

Exactly.

Then along came Angela Davis' ancestor . . .

Posted by: KT at February 25, 2023 01:43 PM (rrtZS)

295 My old truck has the original patina.

Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 01:43 PM (z3WCn)

296 Gorgeous blond at my local tax office who is quite, ahem, well endowed. Always pay my property taxes in person.

Posted by: Some Guy at February 25, 2023 01:44 PM (hTWNl)

297 The American Indians established slavery well before the Mayflower landed. That was just a part of losing the battle.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 25, 2023 01:39 PM (8GBH4)

They also didn't invent all those gruesome torture techniques after the settlers arrived. I have a feeling scalping was long-standing tradition.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 25, 2023 01:44 PM (BdMk6)

298 Angela Davis is a disgusting commie terrorist. So disappointed to see her give a speech at fucking MIT this month.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 01:44 PM (MvF+J)

299 I had a portable Victrola record player.

It was cool. My mom got it for her 16th birthday in 1929. All the rage back in the day.

I looked up the serial number.

They made a zillion of them.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at February 25, 2023 01:44 PM (TXFi7)

300 Oh yeah, the patina. My dad refinished the thing back in the 80s. LOL. Good thing that it was only worth $35.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at February 25, 2023 01:46 PM (TXFi7)

301 The American Indians established slavery well before the Mayflower landed. That was just a part of losing the battle.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 25, 2023 01:39 PM (8GBH4)

Super woke Seattle is named for a slave holder.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 01:47 PM (anj39)

302 >>>The American Indians established slavery well before the Mayflower landed. That was just a part of losing the battle.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 25, 2023 01:39 PM (8GBH4)

They also didn't invent all those gruesome torture techniques after the settlers arrived. I have a feeling scalping was long-standing tradition.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

>How did all of those Africans get over here if the white man didn't bring them?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 25, 2023 01:47 PM (Jg7EG)

303 I still go to house sales here in the Berkshires, esp if a NYC weekender's stuff

bought 7 really great knives, 4 Glestains, a couple of Wusthofs and a jap petty knive

a few hundred but still a bargain

Posted by: REDACTED at February 25, 2023 01:47 PM (us2H3)

304 Dr. Bone @ 302-
How? The Vikings drafted a buch of them.

Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 01:49 PM (z3WCn)

305 The 1619 Project is to American History what the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is to European History.

Posted by: defenestrationisgrand at February 25, 2023 01:49 PM (g1P2d)

306 @ 305-
True dat.

Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 01:51 PM (z3WCn)

307 if you put it a truck and bring it over

I'll give ya a couple dollars for the whole pile
Posted by: REDACTED at February 25, 2023 01:40 PM (us2H3)

Naaa. Loading the truck is too much work.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 01:51 PM (anj39)

308 a great antique dealer is 1/3 collector, 1/3 decorator, 1/3 restorer and 1/3 grifter

Posted by: REDACTED at February 25, 2023 01:52 PM (us2H3)

309 For the majority of black slaves, the coastal Africans raided the interior African tribes and sold them at the ports.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 25, 2023 01:53 PM (8GBH4)

310 Mrs. Sock just told me, and I quote, " cartoons are over, time to go take off your lay about lounging pants, put on your big boy work pants and go take care of your animals ". Guess break time is over
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Subdued at February 25, 2023 01:38 PM (Ij1UG)

If my ex did that, we might still be married.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:53 PM (M2qSa)

311 I bought a Perception kayak once by accident. I was at a river party and they were holding a charity auction. I guess I was in an animated drunken discussion with someone and they thought I was bidding.

I still have the boat.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 25, 2023 01:53 PM (yQpMk)

312 "esp if a NYC weekender's stuff"

You can cruise thru rich neighborhoods and often find great stuff just sitting on the curb for the trashman to pick up. Some towns, I swear the people wash their trash before they put it out.

For antiques and collectibles, target the neighborhoods where the Old Farts live. Beware that low- and mid-range antiques don't sell like they used to; collectors are discovering that today's young generations aren't interested in buying their old-ass stuff. Categories go in and out of fashion.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 01:54 PM (MvF+J)

313 if you put it a truck and bring it over

I'll give ya a couple dollars for the whole pile
Posted by: REDACTED at February 25, 2023 01:40 PM (us2H3)

Naaa. Loading the truck is too much work.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 01:51 PM (anj39)

There used to be the local junk shop in every town. My home town of 3000 had one. So did all the other small towns around us.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 25, 2023 01:54 PM (BdMk6)

314 I looked up the serial number.

They made a zillion of them.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at February 25, 2023 01:44 PM (TXFi7)

Which is kinda nice, because you know it's not "worth" anything. It's just priceless because of what it means to you.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 01:55 PM (M2qSa)

315 a great antique dealer is 1/3 collector, 1/3 decorator, 1/3 restorer and 1/3 grifter
Posted by: REDACTED at February 25, 2023 01:52 PM (us2H3)

Ahhh.
Maths for mortars!

Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 01:57 PM (anj39)

316 Grump, is your Perception a Piroette? That was my first kayak but my feets was too big and it fad footpegs. My next two kayaks was a Dagger Animus, and a Dagger RPM, both with foot bulkheads. Much better design, still have both.

Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 01:57 PM (z3WCn)

317 If y'all missed this on the previous thread, it's pretty cool. I have it up on the big screen now.

282 Eagles are tough. Live cam of Jackie in her nest, absolutely covered in snow. Rooting for baby eagles to pip out soon.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at February 25, 2023 10:51 AM (135ws)

283 Eagle cam:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B4-L2nfGcuE
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at February 25, 2023 10:52 AM (135ws)

If you scroll back you can see her shake off the snow and check her eggs, multiple times.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 25, 2023 01:58 PM (yQpMk)

318 Grump, is your Perception a Piroette?

The auction one is a Dance. I don't like it. Too short.

I prefer my old Quest.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 25, 2023 01:59 PM (yQpMk)

319 Dancer

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 25, 2023 01:59 PM (yQpMk)

320 305 Yes it is

Posted by: Skip at February 25, 2023 02:00 PM (xhxe8)

321 Just buy a bottle of patina and restore your old thing.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 25, 2023 02:02 PM (63Dwl)

322 That's right. a Dancer it was. I paddled it a couple weeks and sold it.

Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 02:02 PM (z3WCn)

323 Just to show how old we are, Mrs928's boat is a Phoenix Slipper.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 25, 2023 02:03 PM (yQpMk)

324 That's right. a Dancer it was. I paddled it a couple weeks and sold it.
Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 02:02 PM (z3WCn)

It is not a good surfer.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 25, 2023 02:03 PM (yQpMk)

325 Ay yi yi. Thanks to a black power acquaintance, I get to find out how black people invented everything from the Socratic method to the moonshot. It's tiresome.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 25, 2023 02:06 PM (oINRc)

326 Grump, I paddled the Nantahala with an old geezer had a Fol-Boat. Last I saw him he was coming out of the Nantahala Outdoor Center with a new Dagger somrthing or other, he had one end snd a cute NOC rivergirl had the other. Good times when I was rivertrash.

Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 02:06 PM (z3WCn)

327 Grump, you remember the guy drew the teeshirt with the Devolution Of Man on it? He used to do the river map books?

Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 02:09 PM (z3WCn)

328 Most amazing (not the most lucrative!) piece of fine art we found was a painting by one of the well-known 19th century California landscapists, forget his name. Due to condition, we got only $150 for it, but a stunning find.

We found a painting by a dead Hungarian artist, forget his name, sold it to his heirs in Europe for $650.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 02:10 PM (MvF+J)

329 Grump, I paddled the Nantahala with an old geezer had a Fol-Boat. Last I saw him he was coming out of the Nantahala Outdoor Center with a new Dagger somrthing or other, he had one end snd a cute NOC rivergirl had the other. Good times when I was rivertrash.
Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 02:06 PM (z3WCn)

The Nantahala is a good example of how times have changed. When I first ran it, the Lesser Wesser was rated a 4, even though it is a flush. I think it's a weak 3 now. People run it in duckies.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 25, 2023 02:10 PM (yQpMk)

330 Just to show how old we are, Mrs928's boat is a Phoenix Slipper.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 25, 2023 02:03 PM (yQpMk)

I'm so old my boat is the ark.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 02:11 PM (M2qSa)

331 Grump, you remember the guy drew the teeshirt with the Devolution Of Man on it? He used to do the river map books?
Posted by: Eromero at February 25, 2023 02:09 PM (z3WCn)

The long skinny maps? I tried to get one for every river I have run.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 25, 2023 02:11 PM (yQpMk)

332
Sowell came initially from poverty, but his pulsating megabrain qualified him for good schools in the capitalist imperialist pigdogocracy. So he went from Commie to human in short order, once he started thinking about things.

Clarence Thomas followed a similar trajectory.

If only prestigious schools still educated people, we might get fewer high-IQ retards running around ruining everything.

Lookin' at you, Kendi.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 25, 2023 02:13 PM (oINRc)

333 I still want to run the rivers up in WV where Girl928 lives, the Gauley and the New.

I think it is the Gualey that has three of the best rapid names I have every head; Devil's Cauldron, Iron Ring, and my favorite: Pure Screaming Hell.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 25, 2023 02:14 PM (yQpMk)

334 Most amazing (not the most lucrative!) piece of fine art we found was a painting by one of the well-known 19th century California landscapists, forget his name. Due to condition, we got only $150 for it, but a stunning find.

We found a painting by a dead Hungarian artist, forget his name, sold it to his heirs in Europe for $650.
Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 02:10 PM (MvF+J)

A guy I knew inherited some paintings by a middling level western artist. Online auctions sold in the low four figures. So the guy took the paintings to art shops and museums, seeing if anyone wanted to buy them, and of course the Philistines with whom he was dealing had no idea who the artist was, or what the paintings were worth.

Last I heard he was going to throw them out. Because it was bothering him so much to have these paintings hanging over his head (no pun intended).

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 02:16 PM (M2qSa)

335 I think it is the Gualey that has three of the best rapid names I have every head; Devil's Cauldron, Iron Ring, and my favorite: Pure Screaming Hell.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 25, 2023 02:14 PM (yQpMk)

Sounds like some good chilli names.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2023 02:19 PM (anj39)

336 334 Why would he not sell on eBay?

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 02:20 PM (MvF+J)

337 If only prestigious schools still educated people, we might get fewer high-IQ retards running around ruining everything.

Lookin' at you, Kendi.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 25, 2023 02:13 PM (oINRc)

Sam Harris enters the chat...

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 02:20 PM (M2qSa)

338 Imagine speaking gullah til you get to college, then learning to speak clear, unaccented American English, like Clarence Thomas. He learned that at Yale.

Those Ivies used to be really good schools. It's hard to imagine. They've been a joke my whole life.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 25, 2023 02:22 PM (oINRc)

339 336 334 Why would he not sell on eBay?
Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 02:20 PM (MvF+J)

Technologically illiterate.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2023 02:22 PM (M2qSa)

340 I'm just surprised that they haven't demanded to move BHM to March. Having it as the shortest month of the year is totally racist.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 25, 2023 02:26 PM (fv27Y)

341 "Technologically illiterate."

Oh well. If it's truly of value, hope he doesn't throw it away.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 02:28 PM (MvF+J)

342 At NYT: "The Brave Man Whom Putin Wants to Kill"

Didn't look to see who it is, but I can guess. I'd bet that anybody Putin really wants dead is dead already.

Posted by: Throw gp That Whammy at February 25, 2023 02:31 PM (MvF+J)

343 I don't remember the exact quote, but I remember being impressed by it. Sowell was referring to some of the "fairness" folks and said something very close to:

"these are the people who assume that good things happen automatically, but bad things are always somebody's fault."

Posted by: jc at February 25, 2023 02:36 PM (N1WXz)

344 Ravil Maganov, who died in Moscow on Thursday, is the latest in a series of prominent Russians who have died after apparently falling from windows. _Newsweek

Putin revises his list weekly.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 25, 2023 02:52 PM (TTQED)

345 225/232 My limited garage sale experience is that when selling items you know are somewhat valuable, and you price them accordingly, the typical response is "Demasiado, ¿tomará cincuenta centavos?"

Posted by: jayhawkone at February 25, 2023 02:55 PM (9rPx3)

346
I would say that high-ranking people falling from windows frequently would indicate instability. But it might be the opposite.

High-ranking people here shoot themselves in the chest, run away, dispose of the gun, run back, tie themselves by the neck to a tree and then die on a more-or-less biannual basis, so maybe mysterious deaths are just a requirement of government work these days.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 25, 2023 03:00 PM (oINRc)

347 I would say that high-ranking people falling from windows frequently would indicate instability. But it might be the opposite.
-
It could always be a matter of finding the CIA's contact list.

Posted by: Methos at February 25, 2023 03:04 PM (kOpft)

348
Saying that the weaponless Epstein/Clinton go-between shot himself somehow, before or after he tied himself to a tree with an extension cord, is right up there with a lot of stuff the Clintons do.

DC Park Police say Vince Foster shot himself and then wandered off to a park to finish dying. AR Staties said Don Henry and Kevin Ives smoked too much weed and then passed out on some train tracks by the airfield. MCC guards said Epstein waited for the cameras to go out while the other guards were sleeping, so that he could manually strangle himself to death and also scream a lot at the same time. DC police said that Seth Rich was murdered in a botched robbery that had no theft involved or any suspects.

I think the Clintons have fun writing these stories.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 25, 2023 03:18 PM (oINRc)

349 Don Cheadle was another shocked guest on Gates' heritage show.

His records indicated that his ancestors were never owned by white people--they were owned by Cherokee Indians!

He looked like somebody hit him on the head with a hammer.

Posted by: PJ at February 25, 2023 03:44 PM (G1dq6)

350 Crap! I am headed to bikeweek Daytona next week, and the battery is dead. After putting it on the tender a week. Then I see a oil puddle under the bike.

Posted by: Paladin at February 25, 2023 04:00 PM (RyVV6)

351 Does this thing work?

Posted by: GlowieZ at February 25, 2023 05:34 PM (rCpz/)

352 Cobs and jingos do love a pity party... I mean there isn't a black person within 3 miles if this blog. What's the point? Norwegian history is a lot more interesting.

Posted by: GlowieZ at February 25, 2023 05:38 PM (rCpz/)

353 There may not be a lot of black commenters here, but there are some. That's not the point. There's lots of black history all around us. As you say, "What's the point" of this particular focus by academia, etc?
Next year, more Thomas Sowell: "Why are the traditional classics of Western civilization written by dead white males?
Take it a step at a time. They are written by dead people for two reasons: First, there are more dead people than living people. Second, a classic is not something that is hot at the moment but something that survives the test of time. . .
Why were they white? Do we ask why the great classics of China were written by people who were Chinese? If we found that the great classics of China were written by Swedes, wouldn't we wonder what the hell was going on?"

Posted by: KT at February 25, 2023 06:06 PM (rrtZS)

354 I wish Thomas Sowell had been our first black president. But now we are looking are WWIII, which, if I understand it at all, is meant "to make the world safe for Michelle Obama's willie."

Posted by: Tipster at February 25, 2023 07:51 PM (klu5V)

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