The Morning Report

The Morning Report — 2/10/23

Good morning kids. After both Ace and I reported and commented on the blockbuster (yet given the times we live in unsurprising) allegations from Seymour Hersh that the US military at the behest of those pulling Joe Sponge-Brain Shits-Pants' strings committed an act of war against the Russian Federation by sabotaging the NordStream pipeline, many commenters immediately poo-poo'd the report either because it relied on unnamed sources and/or because Sy Hersh is a far-left America-hater.

Let me say that while both of those things are true, and especially in light of the fact that "unnamed sources" equates to total fabrications in terms of the attacks on everyone and everything on our end of the political spectrum by the professional propagandists FKA journalists, when you put Hersh's report in context with everything this junta has done both at home and abroad to essentially overthrow this country and hand us on a silver platter to the Davos/Brussels/Beijing Axis, at the very least, you cannot dismiss Hersh out of hand and his claims deserve to be investigated thoroughly.

I linked to Hersh's rap sheet at Discover the Networks yesterday and here it is again for your convenience. In fact this little bullet point is right at the top, and I present it here openly and honestly:

* Typically bases his reporting, which tends to be highly critical of the United States, on unnamed sources that are difficult for others to verify.

He was an America-hater for sure. The question is did he and does he still hate America blindly for the wrong reasons or does he hate the depredations of the post World War 2 American government for what we now know it surely was guilty of, because that government – what we refer t o as the Deep State and bureaucracy – has indeed committed acts of treason and insurrection against the we the people/We The People?

So, okay. There are unnamed sources and then there are "unnamed sources." But, you have to put what is being said in context to what we know or what we can ascertain with our own eyes and ears as true, either beyond a shadow of a doubt or within a degree of reasonable certitude. For sure, the attacks on Trump and other conservatives by "unnamed sources" have all by now been completely debunked. Sadly, not before the lies have had the chance to be established in the minds of the dimwitted and easily bamboozled, i.e. Democrats and the LIV crowd. But that should not taint your view of an unnamed source when it seems to jibe with what is known about the situation on the ground, the players involved and historical context, with ontological certitude (hat tip Rush Limbaugh).

It's the same bad actors and their antecedents who Truman and Ike warned us about, who fucked over (and quite likely assassinated) JFK and Reagan via Bush 41 who was a backstabbing traitor, Dubya with the WMD and Iraq debacle and Donald Trump for their rank insubordination and treason, culminating in what we all saw happen with the 2020 election and J6.

If Sy Hersh had the same mindset as either a Jake Tapper or worse Joe Scarborough, he would not have penned this story that (understatement of the decade alert) puts a globalist/leftist stooge president and his globalist/leftist stooge apparatchiks and handlers in anything less than a bad light.

If what Hersh reported turns out to be true . . . Joe Biden and/or all the aforementioned directly committed an act of war against a sovereign nation. The Russian Federation. The ICBM-armed former Soviet Union

Not only that, it was a sneak attack not only against Russia but against one of our chief NATO allies Germany, whose reliance on the energy from that pipeline is critical.

Let me state for the record that I am not an apologist for Sy Hersh's politics and viewpoints. About the only slack that I am willing to cut him is that, unlike every other major network and outlet of the legacy propagandists, he's the only one covering this angle. If you connect the dots between Biden, Ukraine, the Davos crowd, the warhawks in both parties itching to go to war with Russia, the complete illogic of Putin blowing up his own pipeline, then what Hersh is reporting – irrespective of sources named or unnamed – a frightening picture is painted that should not to be dismissed out of hand as lunacy.

Why am I spending all this energy defending Hersh, or more accurately, taking his reportage seriously? Because given what we know about all the players involved, he should be taken seriously. Same deal with Naomi Wolf and RFK Jr. on COVID and the vaccines, Matt Taibbi on Hamilton 68, Glenn Greenwald on censorship and the Russia hoaxes, etc. etc.

Look at the links in the First Amendment section. Or just read Julie Kelly's report on the arrogant tyrants who think Gott Mitt Uns is their justification for subverting the First Amendment. Look at what the bastard child of Rosa Klebb and Chucky, that redheaded lying slag Piss-Hockey Psaki farted out about conservatives and disinformation. But somehow, Sy Hersh is the problem, right?

Whatever Hersh's and all the aforementioned's politics and personal views may be, they have been the only ones sounding the alarm on a host of issues that threaten our freedoms and perhaps our lives. We are the ones who claim we want open debate and that the left wants to shut that down or merely poo-poo us as conspiracy nutters. Hell, we're not even debating all these people since what they're reporting raises the alarms or confirms our suspicions.

Sy Hersh's past may indeed revolt you. But I'm not going to shoot the messenger, when we have so very few of them who have the reach that he does into a broader audience that includes Democrats, for making accusations that will do nothing but harm his putative fellow travelers.

Bottom line: It's not that I believe Sy Hersh. It's the fact that I CAN believe what he's claiming. Sadly, a hell of a lot more than I can just dismiss the claims out of hand.

Again, some will claim he's anti-American and that is his sole motivation. This may come as a shock but given everything that has happened over the past few years, and really going back since the rise of the bureaucracy and the military industrial complex, considering what they've done to this country – what they have succeeded in mutating America into – then you can call me "anti-American" too.

Have a good weekend and see you mañana on the hobby thread. Be there, aloha.

ABOVE THE FOLD, BREAKING, NOTEWORTHY

“Pfizer’s decision had far-reaching effects.”
How Pfizer Fixed the Election
Lloyd Billingsley: "The struggle against white coat supremacy is the struggle of memory against forgetting."
Big Pharma Covertly Menaces the Populace With Mutations
"A harrowing report on child maltreatment in Minnesota points out several lessons that could apply to child-welfare systems nationwide."
Dangerous Illusions

BIDEN BEIJING BALLOON-ACY

The official noted that the equipment on the Chinese spy balloon was “inconsistent” with what would be aboard a weather balloon since it had “multiple antennas to include an array likely capable of collecting and geo-locating communications.”
State Department Says Chinese Spy Balloon Contained Technology to Monitor Communication Signals
Despite Biden downplaying the balloon, the U.S. military deemed it to be a surveillance balloon directed by the Chinese government and Biden ordered for it to be shot down and recovered. And the House of Representatives unanimously passed a resolution condemning the spy balloon as a “brazen violation of United States sovereignty,” further contradicting Biden’s characterization of the balloon as “not a major breach.”
Biden Says Chinese Spy Balloon "Not a Major Breach"
“It doesn’t matter on one level which individuals may or may not have been responsible,” he said. “The fact is China engaged in this irresponsible action, a violation of our sovereignty and territorial integrity, and international law.”
Blinken: Chinese Spy Balloons Have Operated Over Countries on Five Continents
"The Chinese don’t need the balloon to attack us. From [Chinese] COVID to corrupt deals with presidents, they are already here."
Forget the Balloon. We’re are Already at War with China
BIDEN CRIME FAMILY REVELATIONS
“He’s weak. He’s not respected. And you also have to question, with the amount of money the Biden crime family has made off of their business relationships in China…” the Virginia Republican said. “He flew Hunter Biden on Air Force Two to meet with Chinese business relationships.”
Republican Rep. Bob Good Asks How "Biden Crime Family" Money ""Compromised How the President Has Treated China"
FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES, CENSORSHIP, FAKE NEWS, MEDIA, BIG BROTHER TECH
"US intel blew up the Nord Stream pipelines and the media is more interested in talking about Chinese balloons."
The Biggest Story of the Year
Julie Kelly: "No, they’re not cutting off food supplies or building labor camps but these modern-day tyrants seek the same ends: crush the opposition and control the masses."
Righteous Tyrants
Margot Cleveland: "Twitter executives being beholden to so-called experts’ tweets is hardly better than doing the FBI’s bidding."
Twitter Execs Testify That Their Election-Meddling Decisions Were Even Flimsier Than Previously Claimed
The Global Disinformation Index (GDI), a United Kingdom-based nonprofit that styles itself as a “non-political” monitor working to “disrupt the business model of disinformation,” lists as a funder the Disinfo Cloud, a now-shuttered GEC project. However, GDI has worked to demonetize conservative news sites by collaborating with ad exchanges to flag alleged purveyors of disinformation, the Washington Examiner reported Thursday.
State Department Helped Fund ‘Disinformation’ Research Group That Reportedly Blacklists Conservative News Sites
“What these Republicans are doing, essentially, just to break down past all of this crazy word salad of yesterday, they are defending the pushing of inaccurate, dangerous information on the platforms that most people receive information from,” Psaki continued. “That is racist, dangerous, prompted January 6th, is prompting people not to get vaccinated. That’s what they’re defending.”
Piss-Hockey Psaki Urges MSNBC Viewers to ‘Think of the Danger’ Posed By Free Speech
"The former president has been banned by Facebook and Instagram for more than two years."
Facebook Officially Reinstates Trump's Account
CIVIL WAR 2.0: J-6 FBI FALSE FLAG "RIOT" & AFTERMATH, LEFTIST PERSECUTIONS, DEMOCRAT PUTSCH, AMERICAN DISSOLUTION
The pair of killings come as Democrats have sought to blame their enemies for fomenting "political violence" against their party members. In his State of the Union address, [so-called quote-unquote "president"] Joe Biden attributed the brutal assault of Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s (D., Calif.) husband, Paul Pelosi, to the actions of the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.
Second Republican New Jersey Lawmaker Shot Dead Within a Week
Parker said it seems as though there are two separate FBI’s, one of which is tainted with political bias and has destroyed the credibility of the agency. Parker added that there has been a “lowering of the eligibility requirements” for new recruits, which has negatively impacted the agency.
Former Agent Breaks Down In Tears When Detailing Her Time With ‘Politicized’ FBI
“The FBI is committed to sound analytic tradecraft and to investigating and preventing acts of violence and other crimes while upholding the constitutional rights of all Americans and will never conduct investigative activities or open an investigation based solely on First Amendment protected activity.”
FBI To Retract Catholic Infiltration Memo, Conduct Internal Review
"The saga surrounding a public safety training center that the city of Atlanta is planning on building continues. After an altercation at the site in which a Georgia state trooper was shot and an Antifa domestic terrorist was shot and killed, the family of the Antifa protester who died has demanded that the police release body cam footage."
Atlanta Police Department Releases Body Cam Footage From 'Cop City' Shooting
RED-GREENS, CLIMATE CHANGE HOAX, DEMOCRAT-LEFT WAR ON FOSSIL FUELS, JUNK SCIENCE, LYSENKOISM
"Hopefully, the French government listens to reason and doesn’t help launch a food crisis on top of every other disaster afflicting Europe right now."
French Farmers March on Paris as EU Climate Rules Threaten Their Livelihoods
"Washington State Governor Jay Inslee, like California’s Governor Gavin Newsom, is mandating that his state become all-electric. In doing so, Inslee demonstrates serious myopia."
Will Breezes and Sunshine Charge Governor Jay Inbreed's EVs?
THE ECONOMY, STUPID
"The next time you eat out, be sure to tip your waiter or waitress in cash."
Biden Wants to Sic the IRS on Restaurant Servers
"Last month, a report from Zero Hedge outlined how a 'massive wave' of car repossessions and loan defaults could trigger a collapse in the automotive industry and carry significant consequences for the U.S. and the global economy."
More Americans Missing Car Payments Than in Aftermath of 2008 Crash
Terry Jeffrey: ". . . the debt that accumulated during the Trump’s administration was significantly less than the debt that accumulated during the two periods when Pelosi served as speaker.
$14.76 Trillion: 46.9% of Total Federal Debt Incurred During Malig-Nancy Pelosi's Speakerships
"America is piling up civilization-ending debts, and the people incurring them for the sake of feel-good social priorities will be justifiably cursed when the consequences finally come."
There’s Going to Be Hell to Pay
AMNESTY, IMMIGRATION, BORDER SECURITY
"[So-called quote-unquote "president's"] failed policies have led to mass illegal immigration and soaring drug deaths."
Why GOP Loudly Heckled Biden Over His Immigration, Border Security ‘Plan’
Now do the whole country and ramp up the deportations.
Republican-Led House Moves To Stop D.C.’s Illegal Immigrant Voting Plan
CRIME & PUNISHMENT, NON-DOSTOYEVSKY
The apparent melanin content of the perp assures us this story disappears from the news cycle.
Police Make Arrest After Releasing Photo of Suspect in Assault of House Democrat
"Perhaps before forging ahead, San Francisco could benefit from conversations with women who left the sex trade and with those who have been trafficked and exploited."
San Francisco Mulls Creating a Red-Light District
AMERICA AND THE WORLD IMPRISONED: CHINESE CORONAVIRUS FICTIONS AND FACTS
"One of the pandemic's babies, Lagevrio, is under intense scrutiny."
Study Claims This "Anti- [Chinese] COVID" Pill May Actually Be Driving New Variants
EDUCATION, AND WHAT PASSES FOR IT
"DeSantis and some state legislators are stepping up."
Pushback in the Culture Wars
"The University of South Florida turns left-wing racialism into a psychological conditioning program."
DEI Cult
ABORTION
“Tell me how you go from recognizing the sanctity of life and believing that abortion should be limited — as a senator, for many years, that was what he claimed to believe — to now, he celebrates abortion. He wants more abortion. He wants taxpayers to have to pay for it. He doesn’t want any restrictions up to the moment of birth.”
Republican Rep. Bob Good: Biden "Wants More Abortion," "Threatening" State of Emergency
THE 2020 AND 2022ELECTION HEISTS & AFTERMATH
"Despite finally fulfilling a FOIA request, Biden’s Department of the Interior sent Citizens United a heavily-redacted document."
If Biden’s Federal Elections Takeover is "Free and Fair," Why are the Plans Completely Redacted?
OFFICIAL DEMOCRAT PARTY/LEFTIST-ENDORSED ANTI-SEMITISM, ANTI-CHRISTIANITY
Daniel Greenfield: "As long as the IRS continues to be aligned with the Left, it will also be aligned with the Islamic terrorists who have become integrated within the Left. And that makes the IRS a threat to national security." (the IRS and virtually every agency and department in DC - jjs)
The IRS Came After Pro-Israel Groups, But Protected Hamas
The Jan. 12 event, which was hosted by a student group as [so-called quote-unquote "vice president"] Kamala Harris appeared on campus, included calls for "intifada revolution" as well as the chant "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free," a phrase employed by those who seek the Jewish state's eradication.
University of Michigan Event Calling for Israel's Destruction Broke Federal Law, Legal Group Says
DEMOCRAT/LEFTIST AND RINO SCANDALS, MESHUGAS, CHUTZPOCRISY
"The lawsuits allege that the group, the New Venture Fund, paid black women less than other employees, further saying that black employees ran the risk of being fired should they speak out against the discrimination."
Liberal Dark Money Behemoth Accused Of Racism, Discrimination In Lawsuits
POLITICS
"Slow Joe's State of the Union speech flops."
Bad Show, Bad Ratings
"The Blue State Exodus is in full swing. But will voters' habits change?"
Those Abandoning Blue States Should Abandon Democrats, Too
"Republicans still control the Pennsylvania state Senate. However, the Democrats’ recent successes in Pennsylvania serve as yet another troubling warning shot for Republicans ahead of the 2024 elections, where Pennsylvania’s 20 Electoral College votes make it a key battleground state."
The Pennsylvania State House Has Fallen to the Democrats
"Thanks to Ron DeSantis, not a trace of purple remains on the Sunshine State’s horizon."
Florida’s Future Is Bright Red
"Elected leaders in East Hanover, New Jersey . . . "
Town’s Entire Leadership Flees Democratic Party, Joins the GOP
"Libertarians to pedophile Scott Ritter: We just can't quit you!"
How Disagreement Over a Pedophile Upended a Libertarian Anti-War Rally
"The last president to reform Social Security was Ronald Reagan. Republicans need to follow his example."
Republicans Must Take the Lead in Reforming Social Security and Medicare
THE UKRAINIAN "FRONT"
"Report by Seymour Hersh claims Biden [junta] ordered CIA to blow up Russia’s Baltic Sea natural gas pipelines to Germany."
Russia Demands ‘International Probe’ After Bombshell Report Claims Biden White House Ordered Hit on Stream Pipelines
"Those who do not understand (or refuse to accept) what the majority of the Russians are, are destined to pay a heavy price."
The Real Russia – and Ukraine
"[So-called quote-unquote "president"] Joe Biden must have forgotten his prediction from March 2022, suggesting that arming Ukraine with military equipment will escalate the conflict to “World War III.” America is in a state of managed decline, and it will exacerbate if we continue to hemorrhage taxpayer dollars toward a foreign war. We must suspend all foreign aid for the War in Ukraine and demand that all combatants in this conflict reach a peace agreement immediately."
Matt Gaetz Introduces ‘Ukraine Fatigue Resolution’ to End U.S. Aid, Urge Peace Deal
FOREIGN AFFAIRS, INTERNATIONAL
"Xi’s war council is the most troubling development."
Asian Geopolitics Just Got Scarier
"Softness on the CCP in the State of the Union Address."
Biden’s Sellout to China
"The White House has largely finished preparations for an executive order that would ban American funds from enabling the development of Chinese advanced semiconductors, quantum computing, artificial intelligence, and other technologies with surveillance and military applications, according to a report from The New York Times."
White House Refining Executive Order Banning American Companies From Investing In Key Chinese Sectors
"Speaker McCarthy uses the State of the Union to indulge in some idle provocation against a NATO ally, raising the age-old question: Is our political class more vicious or more short-sighted?"
Turkish Delight
"Blacklisting Xi’s top criminals — all 2,300 of them — would be a good start."
The US Must Take Action on China
"The so-called liberal West has gone insane with hubris."
Embracing Hungary’s ‘Illiberalism’ as the Road to Peace
DOMESTIC AFFAIRS, THE COURTS, WASTE/FRAUD/ABUSE
"The opposition to Hector LaSalle, Governor Kathy Hochul’s nominee to lead the state’s highest court, sets a troubling example."
Unruly Empire
"Despite record rains, California officials are committed to their same old policy of preferring water rationing to expanding storage and supplies."
California’s Ongoing Water Follies
ACTUAL SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY
"In another incident, two huge pieces of Russian space junk came within 19 feet of colliding in a ‘worst-case scenario.’"
Russian Satellite Breaks Apart in Orbit, Generating Debris Cloud That Could Last for 100 Years
"Much rides on this first launch."
ULA stacks Vulcan-Centaur rocket for ground tests prior to first launch
"If successful, Relativity plans to follow it in 2024 with the 3D printed Terran-R, which would be comparable in size and power to SpaceX’s Falcon 9."
Relativity’s Terran-1 rocket on launchpad for final tests prior to first launch
"Either their theories of the Roche limit are incorrect, or the creation of this ring is very very recent, caused by the collusion of two objects that were orbiting Quaoar."
Astronomers find ring around distant dwarf planet Quaoar (it was not looking for Klingons - jjs)
"The de-orbit requirements are part of the FCC’s recent regulatory power grab, and has no legal basis."
FCC approves the first 3,000+ satellites in Amazon’s Kuiper constellation
FEMINAZISM, TRANSGENDER PSYCHOSIS, HOMOSEXUALIZATION, WAR ON MASCULINITY/NORMALCY
"Morally and medically appalling."
Gender Clinic Case Manager Blows The Whistle On "Permanent Harm" Done To Kids
"Former University of Kentucky swimmer Riley Gaines demands the NCAA have separate locker rooms for transgender athletes."
‘Exposed to Male Genitalia’: Swimmer Claims No One ‘Forewarned’ Them About Sharing Locker Room With Biological Male Lia "John" Thomas
CULTURE WARS, NATIONAL SUICIDE
DeSantis’ office said that the special tax district, which has allowed Disney to govern themselves since 1967, turned the theme park into “an unaccountable Corporate Kingdom.”
Florida House Overwhelmingly Passes Bill To Let DeSantis Take Control Of Disney’s Orlando District
"It’s one thing to include gay characters, whatever. It’s quite another to ret-con a decidedly straight character like Luke just to send a message to old fans. And that message is: 'Everything you love, we can destroy'. . . Returning CEO Bob Iger could have fired far fewer people — with much more important jobs — and done far more to turn around the Mouse House’s fading fortunes. Instead, he’s enabling even more of the rot corrupting so many favorite franchises and characters.”
Disney Actually Just Laid Off 2.4 Million People — Including Me
"No leaders or politicians should have to bother explaining why porn is bad. The real challenge is how to effectively eliminate it."
France Is Protecting Kids From Pornography’s Mind, Body, And Soul Decay. America Should Act Next
Christian Toto: "Sixty-something superstar's complaint over ageism ignores an ugly truth."
Madonna Shrewdly Plays the Victim Card
"Political gesturing will become the norm and Brits have given up fighting against it. This is now the Premier League, and it’s partly America’s fault."
How the English Premier League Bent the Knee to Political Posturing
"Revisiting Cardinal George Pell’s debate on contraceptives, thirty years later."
The Rubber Meets the Road
HITHER & YON
"While artists’ deaths usually occasion an accounting of their contributions, Burt Bacharach’s contribution to popular music was incalculable."
Burt Bacharach’s Music Didn’t Just Span Six Decades, It Transcended Them
"Meet the Escape Artist."
The Man Who Broke Out of Auschwitz to Warn the World

NOTE: The opinions expressed in the links may or may not reflect my own. I include them because of their relevance to the discussion of a particular issue.

ALSO: The Morning Report is cross-posted at CutJibNewsletter.com if you want to continue the conversation all day.

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1 happy fricking friday

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2023 07:36 AM (BRHaw)

2 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at February 10, 2023 07:36 AM (HpqAQ)

3 coffee.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 10, 2023 07:37 AM (uOZap)

4 Seeing as how Biden said what they were going to do regarding the pipeline, why shouldn't we believe the US did it at Biden's direction?

Posted by: fd at February 10, 2023 07:38 AM (iayUP)

5 Are you religious? Please visit your nearest FBI interrogation center soonest.

Posted by: Chris Wray, America's Patriot Act Watchdog at February 10, 2023 07:39 AM (uOZap)

6 Hiya

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2023 07:40 AM (T4tVD)

7 Christian Toto: "Sixty-something superstar's complaint over ageism ignores an ugly truth."

Like my makeup

Posted by: Madonna at February 10, 2023 07:40 AM (uOZap)

8 Thanks JJ !

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2023 07:40 AM (T4tVD)

9 Had to get the kids off to school. Completing from the last thread:

One of MacArthur's former church elders is trying to cancel him because he disagrees with the way the church provided marriage counseling for 20+ years. The church didn't support wives who were asking to divorce their husbands and tack on abuse and child molestation accusations to bolster their claims. There was one case 20 years ago where the husband was eventually convicted in court, the elder is making a big deal about it now, and there is a #MeToo movement brewing with other "battered" women whose pleas for divorce were not welcomed.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 07:42 AM (DK4U1)

10 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2023 07:43 AM (xhxe8)

11 Morning JJ and sundry etc morons. I'm sure John McArthur would appreciate prayers for California officials to repent. He's on solid ground theologically.

Posted by: Eromero at February 10, 2023 07:45 AM (1vBNQ)

12 Yonder Horde.

At least it's Friday... amirite

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 10, 2023 07:47 AM (Q4IgG)

13 https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/367260

Scumbag murdering palestinians

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2023 07:47 AM (dO/0d)

14 Mornin' Dudes.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 10, 2023 07:48 AM (3ghee)

15 'Inside Rock Legend Flea's $8.8M Hilltop Compound'

Well, the house looks ugly from the air. And I just find the title of the video funny.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 10, 2023 07:48 AM (CsVWE)

16 @Breaking911 · 13h
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Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 10, 2023 07:48 AM (Vwz3I)

17 I don't know much about Hersh. But as I said yesterday, in light of the past 3 years I have no problem believing his story. Big Media/Democrat completely ignoring the story unlike how it would be handled if the Orange man was still in charge is another "tell" for me.

Posted by: Fool Otto at February 10, 2023 07:49 AM (DB16e)

18 "Sixty-something superstar's complaint over ageism ignores an ugly truth"

What, that she looks like Jim Carrey from "The Mask"?

Posted by: fd at February 10, 2023 07:50 AM (iayUP)

19 Scumbag, murdering Palestinians
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This I assume:

@TheInsiderPaper · 40m
UPDATE - Israeli police say 'ramming attack' suspect neutralised

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 10, 2023 07:50 AM (Vwz3I)

20 Trump would have been impeached over NordStream before it was ever blown up. The plan would have been mentioned in a footnote to an annex of a daily intel briefing, and a whistleblower would have run straight to Adam Schiff.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 07:51 AM (DK4U1)

21 The key issue with the pipeline is that the German people overwhelmingly wanted a peace deal with Russia to preserve the inflows of gas that the country needed to survive. That option was taken away when the pipeline was blown up.

Now look at the situation with that in mind, and decide who was responsible.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 10, 2023 07:51 AM (lTGtQ)

22 "As long as the IRS continues to be aligned with the Left, it will also be aligned with the Islamic terrorists who have become integrated within the Left. And that makes the IRS a threat to national security."
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Every Federal agency moving in lockstep, armed and militarized, led by deep state denizens, and seeking to take American culture by the neck and choke the life from it.

Posted by: Philip Hamburger for SCOTUS at February 10, 2023 07:51 AM (nHAVE)

23 I believe Sy Hersh. People say, "Moron, you won't believe it, but I found the most outrageous report on our doorstep and I've decided to keep it for our very own. Now you won't believe it, but it's got exactly what Joe and his folks have been up to lately." Why do folks keep saying I won't believe it? I believe it! I believe it.

Never Give Up Your Guns!

Rootin For Putin!

Free Buffalo Guy!

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 10, 2023 07:52 AM (R/m4+)

24 How long before we find out that the US is providing the chemical weapons being dropped on Russian troops by American supplied drones?

I understand now why Musk shut down StarLink for long distance drone attacks. He's seen the footage on Twitter shortly before he's forced to censor it on behalf of the junta.

The images of Ukrainian 16 year olds being snatched off the street to be sent to their death on the front line are shocking.

Imagine saying "Ukraine is a free nation and it's people have a right to self-determination" while watching them shove high school sophomores into the conscription wagon.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 10, 2023 07:52 AM (Zqeqr)

25 the elder is making a big deal about it now, and there is a #MeToo movement brewing with other "battered" women whose pleas for divorce were not welcomed.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 07:42 AM (DK4U1)

Disgruntled Christian blogger Julie Roys has been at the head of the movement to take MacCarther down for nearly two years now. It's her specialty to rip pastors.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2023 07:52 AM (45fpk)

26 #19 Oops. I missed...
@TheInsiderPaper · 58m
JUST IN - Six injured as car crashes into east Jerusalem bus stop: medics - AFP

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 10, 2023 07:52 AM (Vwz3I)

27 JJ is fired up this morning, and rightly so.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 10, 2023 07:52 AM (NKKjZ)

28 Julie Kelly: "No, they’re not cutting off food supplies or building labor camps but these modern-day tyrants seek the same ends: crush the opposition and control the masses."
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Not yet. Give them time. They will.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 10, 2023 07:53 AM (YIVH2)

29 Was the big news being mentioned today a right wing conspiracy theory last week?

Then the story is true.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 07:53 AM (DK4U1)

30 Good morning.
More coffee...

Posted by: dantesed at February 10, 2023 07:53 AM (88xKn)

31 many commenters immediately poo-poo'd the report either because it relied on unnamed sources and/or because Sy Hersh is a far-left America-hater.

They poo-poo'd it because they won't consider the possibility that the USA could ever be the bad guy. Pure and simple.

Posted by: Tell It Like It Is at February 10, 2023 07:53 AM (O//Mi)

32 I'm up early this morning because I am in the eastern time zone.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 10, 2023 07:53 AM (NKKjZ)

33 Hiya Grammie !

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2023 07:53 AM (T4tVD)

34 Hiya JT!

Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2023 07:54 AM (45fpk)

35 @TheInsiderPaper · 2h
NEW 🚨 Number of Chinese migrants illegally crossing into the US during the last three months of 2022 skyrocketed by over 700% compared to the same period a year earlier, data shows, NY Post reports

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 10, 2023 07:54 AM (Vwz3I)

36 Like it or not we are now on the same side as Wolf Greenwald and Hersh wrt the dangers of the Regime. We will be on different sides wrt social issues but that’s ok. Because the dominant issue of this decade and beyond is: what the hell do we do with this fucking dangerous police state we have wasted so much time and so many resources “conserving”?

We can start by admitting that they were right and we were wrong on this issue. And stop acting so self destructively by reflexively defending the corrupt regime.

Posted by: Republic Theatre brought to you by Pfizer! at February 10, 2023 07:55 AM (Fj8Gx)

37 "Because given what we know about all the players involved, he should be taken seriously. Same deal with Naomi Wolf and RFK Jr. on COVID and the vaccines, Matt Taibbi on Hamilton 68, Glenn Greenwald on censorship and the Russia hoaxes"

It's only going to get worse, those guys might be progressive nutjobs but they're one of the last few that understands objective journalism means digging up facts whether someone likes it or not. Most people under say 50, working as "journalists" don't even understand that. That goes for the left and the right.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 10, 2023 07:55 AM (76Foq)

38 @TheInsiderPaper · 3h
Bill Gates defends his private jet, says it’s ‘not part of’ climate change problem

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 10, 2023 07:55 AM (Vwz3I)

39 "Bill Gates defends his private jet, says it’s ‘not part of’ climate change problem
Posted by: andycanuck "

Yeah because it runs on bullshit.

Posted by: fd at February 10, 2023 07:56 AM (iayUP)

40 Bill Gates defends his private jet, says it’s ‘not part of’ climate change problem

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 10, 2023 07:55 AM (Vwz3I)

Then neither is my gas stove.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2023 07:56 AM (45fpk)

41 Emotion-driven knee-jerkers gonna kick, JJ.

This explanation always made the most sense. It's the least conspiratorial/silly of any other put forth by the Government-Media-Pedocrat Complex or by right-wing Hopium addicts.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at February 10, 2023 07:57 AM (b306O)

42 What struck me most about the Hersh article is how neatly it addressed the issues raised in an article that was discussed here at the time of the pipeline explosions.

That article proposed a hypothesis of explosions due to poor maintenance, and pointed out how nearly impossible it would be to arrange to blow up both pipelines without being detected, and get from one to the other so quickly.

Planting remotely-triggerable explosives under the cover of a planned exercise solves that just fine.

Posted by: Splunge at February 10, 2023 07:57 AM (2Nn0L)

43 PSA

Morons, if someone calls you out of the blue and tells you they are from your bank and you need to open an attachment to your email so they can fix a problem with a deposit, DON'T DO IT!

Posted by: fd, who knows someone who did this at February 10, 2023 07:58 AM (iayUP)

44 And the bit about John calling out a woman living in sin before the entire congregation? Seen it happen in 2 churches run by his graduates. First you are counseled repeatedly in private to stop whatever sin you are committing- in both cases it was marital infidelity- and if you continue the sin while claiming to be a member of the congregation, the pastor will call you out by name from the pulpit on Sunday.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 07:59 AM (DK4U1)

45 >>Christian Toto: "Sixty-something superstar's complaint over ageism ignores an ugly truth."

The truth is instead of aging gracefully and taking her millions and living her best life ever, she turned herself into a literally unrecognizable monster and is demanding people to pretend she is still beautiful.

In the apropos words of Mitt Romney, she's one sick puppy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 10, 2023 07:59 AM (up/3i)

46 Just like Hitler, Stalin, and Mao...

@disclosetv · 2h
NEW - Bill Gates believes ChatGPT, a biased AI chatbot, is as "significant as the invention of the Internet" and it "will change the world."

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 10, 2023 07:59 AM (Vwz3I)

47 Same deal with Naomi Wolf and RFK Jr. on COVID and the vaccines, Matt Taibbi on Hamilton 68, Glenn Greenwald on censorship and the Russia hoaxes, etc. etc.
________

Not the same deal. All the above have track records on more than just one issue*, and of some duration. It'll take more, and longer, before I trust Hersh.

Even if he's on our side on this one, so what? Too many on the right fall for that. Remember the accolades for Sam Harris? Do not forget that Stalin was on our side in WWII. I'm holding my judgement.

*Except RFK, whom I don't entirely trust.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2023 08:00 AM (TgBWG)

48 "It is just one little jet" say 1 million climate activists as they board their Gulfstream.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 08:00 AM (DK4U1)

49 Hoffs is the same age as Madonna.
One chose wisely.

Posted by: Fool Otto at February 10, 2023 08:01 AM (DB16e)

50 Censorship has moved way beyond twitter and social media. Governments now aim to stop critical stories from even being written in the first place. Don LeMon's psychotic breakdown over citing NY Post reporting feels like its in perfect touch with Karine Jean-Pierre's minute-by-minute lies from the podium.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 10, 2023 08:01 AM (4y0jb)

51 I'm dubious of any single source reporting particularly when the source is anonymous and the story confirms my beliefs. But I tend to give more weight not less when leftists are reporting on corruption and misdeeds by other leftists than I would with a conservative reporter.

They have less motive to go after their own.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2023 08:01 AM (ZLI7S)

52 " the pastor will call you out by name from the pulpit on Sunday."

Well, that could cut down on attendance.

Posted by: fd at February 10, 2023 08:01 AM (iayUP)

53 Church discipline. It's seldom practiced today. But it's there for a reason.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2023 08:02 AM (45fpk)

54 and it "will change the world."
Posted by: andycanuck

It will. Because it is sold to the masses as an unbiased machine which culls its answers from the entirety of human knowledge, when in reality the answers are filtered and curated to conform to a political and social viewpoint.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 08:02 AM (DK4U1)

55 Mornin’, All. Feliz Fajita Friday.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 10, 2023 08:03 AM (XR5XV)

56 “The largest cultural menace in America is the conformity of the intellectual cliques which, in education as well as the arts, are out to impose upon the nation their modish fads and fallacies, and have nearly succeeded in doing so. In this cultural issue, we are, without reservations, on the side of excellence (rather than ‘newness’

and of honest intellectual combat (rather than conformity).

DIE is the system to eliminate excellence in exchange for tocuhy, feely, gooder things that cannot be measured as they have ZERO value.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2023 08:03 AM (BRHaw)

57 49 Hoffs is the same age as Madonna.
One chose wisely.
Posted by: Fool Otto at February 10, 2023 08:01 AM (DB16e)

Agreed. But I also think Hoffs and Hurley are some sort of wonderful mutants.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 10, 2023 08:04 AM (CsVWE)

58 I don't know how one would come to AoS day in and day out over the last 10 years and read the litany of treachery practiced against the American people and President Trump by the intelligence communities and the military and then still say "We wouldn't blow up a Russian pipeline. It had to be poor maintenance."

You would literally have to be retarded. Like as in you have lost your ability to process information and make sense of things in order to form higher functioning thoughts. Full-on retarded.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 10, 2023 08:05 AM (Zqeqr)

59 It will. Because it is sold to the masses as an unbiased machine which culls its answers from the entirety of human knowledge, when in reality the answers are filtered and curated to conform to a political and social viewpoint.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 08:02 AM (DK4U1)

This. It is yet another 'Believe this! It's impartial!' now that almost no one trusts the media when they say the same thing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 10, 2023 08:05 AM (CsVWE)

60 Hersh's story is plausible. I can't find much that doesn't seem like it could be true.

But I also don't trust anything coming out of the media, any media these days.

So, for now it's on the back burner until more info surfaces.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 10, 2023 08:06 AM (Q4IgG)

61 51 I'm dubious of any single source reporting particularly when the source is anonymous and the story confirms my beliefs. But I tend to give more weight not less when leftists are reporting on corruption and misdeeds by other leftists than I would with a conservative reporter.

They have less motive to go after their own.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2023 08:01 AM (ZLI7S)

As TJM was noting yesterday, there could be a mix of lies and truth in order to make the broader story easy to discredit. Not that Sersh would need to be intentionally participating.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 10, 2023 08:07 AM (eYoxG)

62 FBI To Retract Catholic Infiltration Memo, Conduct Internal Review
________

Oh Boy! An internal review! That'll fix everything. We may even get new cover sheets.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2023 08:07 AM (TgBWG)

63 "nvaccinated teachers in New York City were flagged with problem codes in their personnel files, and when that occurred “their fingerprints are sent with that flag to the FBI and the New York Criminal Justice Services”. - Betsy Combier"

I'm sorry we knew when it happened that the US was behind destroying Nord Stream I and II

yes to everything Bitter Clinger said

look I love my home state of PA. but I know it's run by malign idiots who hate me and will destroy the whole state. that state of affairs is now writ large. we have to honestly admit it and then fight back against it! closing your eyes to it doesn't help. I'm still working to make things better, my little bit.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 10, 2023 08:07 AM (w0NJk)

64 Hope you chose Beloit for your new location, JJ. Diane Hendricks is everything Soros is not,

Posted by: Mr Gaga at February 10, 2023 08:07 AM (KiBMU)

65 Hoffs and Hurley just have sensible plastic surgeons and have not built a career out of being outlandish and provocative. This whole Madonna "controversy" is just the same bog standard bullshit she did from 1980-2000. Being controversial gets you in the news, gets people to pay attention, sells records. No different now, except she is doing it to boost Sam Smith and probably take big consulting fees.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 08:07 AM (DK4U1)

66 hmm what did I do!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 10, 2023 08:08 AM (w0NJk)

67 I don't know how one would come to AoS day in and day out over the last 10 years and read the litany of treachery practiced against the American people and President Trump by the intelligence communities and the military and then still say "We wouldn't blow up a Russian pipeline. It had to be poor maintenance."

Posted by: Bitter Clinger

When you add in the fact that one of the pipelines was literally brand new, any logic completely evaporates.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 10, 2023 08:08 AM (lTGtQ)

68 It will. Because it is sold to the masses as an unbiased machine which culls its answers from the entirety of human knowledge, when in reality the answers are filtered and curated to conform to a political and social viewpoint.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 08:02 AM (DK4U1)

Concur. I remember that scene in "Rollerball" when the computer "Zero" lost all of the 13th century.

Just Dante and a few corrupt Popes, but it's so distracting and annoying!

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 10, 2023 08:08 AM (R/m4+)

69 looks like coffee in the barrel for me

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 10, 2023 08:08 AM (w0NJk)

70 Cui bono?
Russia-ridiculous. No motive
Western Europe-ditto
Ukraine-motive but no ability
USA USA 🇺🇸- motive ability lunatic leadership + public tough guy threats to take it out.
Case closed. Hersh just corroborates with details.

Posted by: Republic Theatre brought to you by Pfizer! at February 10, 2023 08:08 AM (Fj8Gx)

71 I never thought Madonna was attractive. Not even a little bit. Now, it seems, she’s pushing into late Joan Crawford Gorgon territory.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 10, 2023 08:09 AM (XR5XV)

72 Sheryl Crow is also in her 60s and looks great

it's how you live life

Madonna is trashy

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 10, 2023 08:09 AM (w0NJk)

73 You would literally have to be retarded. Like as in you have lost your ability to process information and make sense of things in order to form higher functioning thoughts. Full-on retarded.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 10, 2023 08:05 AM (Zqeqr)

One of the secrets to the western world is not just the freedoms that allowed many innovations, but it was the high trust society that also helped to foster those freedoms. We are rapidly destroying both.

I can understand people who are saying: 'I don't believe anything these fuckers say or anything I am told except what I can confirm with my own eyes.' Hell, I am rapidly getting there myself.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 10, 2023 08:09 AM (CsVWE)

74 I buy Hersh's story, mostly because Mr. Magoo threatened it well before it happened. Hersh is definitely a scumbag and a bad actor, but he is just telling us stuff that the junta pretty much admitted to. What worries me is that the truth is somehow WORSE than that...

Posted by: American Hawkman at February 10, 2023 08:10 AM (skAOD)

75 “What these Republicans are doing, essentially, just to break down past all of this crazy word salad of yesterday, they are defending the pushing of inaccurate, dangerous information on the platforms that most people receive information from,” Psaki continued

Her show is called "Begin The Executions!"

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 10, 2023 08:10 AM (4y0jb)

76 Wyoming and Oklahoma are the latest states considering their own bullion depository in a push back against Fed policies...

https://tinyurl.com/42dmn9re

Wyoming gets it, in other words, and in "getting it" is highlighting a danger that might be lurking in the states bullion depository fever, and that is, that Mr. Globaloony might attempt to get his central bank digital "currency" bamboozle accepted by coupling it to state bullion depositories, and to "bullion backing", a "backing" that will evaporate as soon as one tries to exchange the blip for the bullion, and to spend the latter. In other words, the states are waking up, and are sensing where the Swamp is headed, and Mr. Globaloony will have to respond by getting a grip on that growing revolt. Beware such schemes to tie the constitutional money revolt to any scheme of "digital 'currency.'"

Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 10, 2023 08:10 AM (TGPs7)

77 Not only that, it was a sneak attack not only against Russia but against one of our chief NATO allies Germany, whose reliance on the energy from that pipeline is critical.

The same Deep State/WEF/Davos criminal syndicate that is pushing Net Zero, End of ICE, end of natural gas, end of coal, end of mining, end of eating real food on We The People are also doing it to the Planet other than BRICS nations.

So it is entirely consistent within the WEF cabal to order the hit on the pipeline since Russia is outside their sphere of direct influence, and they really hate the fact that commoners have access to inexpensive and reliable energy

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 10, 2023 08:11 AM (l7lsb)

78 FTA about child welfare:
she killed {6yo} Eli with nine shotgun blasts

No. She killed Eli with one, then set about mutilating her, then had to have reloaded to continue.
Yes, that is a very sick human being.

Posted by: GWB at February 10, 2023 08:11 AM (PkFyV)

79 She was kind of cute in 1983. But she overplayed the gap tooth.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 08:11 AM (DK4U1)

80 Happy National Umbrella Day.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 10, 2023 08:11 AM (NpAcC)

81 71 I never thought Madonna was attractive. Not even a little bit. Now, it seems, she’s pushing into late Joan Crawford Gorgon territory.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 10, 2023 08:09 AM (XR5XV)

Might be a good comparison. Marginal to begin with, obviously somewhat insecure about that. Only gets worse as time goes by.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 10, 2023 08:12 AM (CsVWE)

82 >>Cui bono?
Russia-ridiculous. No motive
Western Europe-ditto
Ukraine-motive but no ability

I think it's a mistake to think that the people in Western Europe have any more to do with this decision than their equally corrupt leadership who are even more in the tank with the WEF than the US leadership.

This result is exactly what the WEF "green" rulers of Western Europe want. Besides, Germany was making bank on the old pipelines that run through Ukraine and Germany.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2023 08:12 AM (ZLI7S)

83 And Happy Cream Cheese Brownie Day.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 10, 2023 08:13 AM (NpAcC)

84 Yesterday
Mike Lee "I'm troubled that I cannot immediately rule out the suggestion that the U.S. blew up Nordstream..."

Posted by: Fool Otto at February 10, 2023 08:13 AM (DB16e)

85
Christian Toto:

"Sixty-something superstar Trannie Charles Laughton Lookalike complaint over ageism ignores an ugly truth."

Fixed for accuracy.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2023 08:14 AM (KLPy8)

86 They told us their intentions (Brandon and Nuland). Why wouldn’t we believe them; of course the junta blew up Nordstream 2…. We knew this before Hersh wrote his “blockbuster”

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 10, 2023 08:15 AM (5dxUf)

87 Executive order: All US gold bullion is hereby rescinded and citizens are ordered to convert their bullion into the Digi$. You have 90 days to comply. After 90 days bullion is no longer convertible and is illegal to use as financial tender.

Sue?? Hahahahahahahahahah No Standing!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 08:15 AM (DK4U1)

88 It's a little weird how we *should* believe them when they say they are going to do something. But we *shouldn't* believe them when they deny any responsibility for what they did.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 10, 2023 08:16 AM (YIVH2)

89 Yes, that is a very sick human being.

There needs to be a massive change to the child welfare system. My daughter is a social worker and the stories she tells me are heartbreaking and infuriating. That poor child should never have been returned to his mom. Ever.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at February 10, 2023 08:16 AM (wagHN)

90 Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2023 08:14 AM (KLPy

Charles Laughton was better looking than Madonna is now.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2023 08:16 AM (D+F6R)

91 "Elected leaders in East Hanover, New Jersey . . . "
Town’s Entire Leadership Flees Democratic Party, Joins the GOP
__________

Don't they read the papers? It won't be long until they all sleep with the fishes. Don Garland will see to that.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2023 08:17 AM (TgBWG)

92 Hersh is an anti American leftist but his account is very detailed, if sparse on naming names. If you dismiss what Hersh says and his conclusions however then what is left. Nothing. The theory that Russia did it? No proof , nor is there proof of anything else. Always ask, who benefits. In this situation we do

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 10, 2023 08:17 AM (StQQf)

93 The 'Sovereign Nation' thing to me misses a point that I think is vital. The WEF does not consider nations. They are looking at 'People' in a bucket. Or perhaps, they are looking at class only. They have managed to gain power over sectors of nations (and seek to expand that control) but they are not looking at trying to push up this or that nation- they are looking to push up the control of a certain class of people (their own.) This is Technocracy/World Communism stuff writ large. No, I am not saying they are Commies as a definition of what they are. I am saying that mindset of the worldwide communist revolution is the same type of idea that they are following.

That is why the Gates thing about his plane slots in perfectly. Whenever they are talking about 'changes that need to be made' the people in their class are of course exempt from these changes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 10, 2023 08:18 AM (CsVWE)

94 87 Executive order: All US gold bullion is hereby rescinded and citizens are ordered to convert their bullion into the Digi$. You have 90 days to comply. After 90 days bullion is no longer convertible and is illegal to use as financial tender.

Sue?? Hahahahahahahahahah No Standing!

That's a possible course of action if things continue the way they are going...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 10, 2023 08:18 AM (TGPs7)

95 @77

>>So it is entirely consistent within the WEF cabal to order the hit on the pipeline since Russia is outside their sphere of direct influence, and they really hate the fact that commoners have access to inexpensive and reliable energy

At some point in the not too distant future, there is going to be a giant backlash against these monsters and it is going to be pleasant.

Unfortunately we are going to have to suffer for the sins of these idiots.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 10, 2023 08:18 AM (up/3i)

96 Say yes. Yes. To Martini and Rossi on the rocks. Say yes.

Posted by: Burt Bacharach at February 10, 2023 08:19 AM (LaNzR)

97 >>It's a little weird how we *should* believe them when they say they are going to do something. But we *shouldn't* believe them when they deny any responsibility for what they did.

We have always been at war with eastasia.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2023 08:19 AM (ZLI7S)

98 Oh and Julie Roys is disgusting. I used to be a member of John MacArthur’s Grace Community Church when I lived in the area. He’s served that church for 54 years with integrity. Best preaching I’ve ever heard…. Kept that church open during Covid when almost everyone else cowered to health authorities

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 10, 2023 08:19 AM (5dxUf)

99 They told us their intentions (Brandon and Nuland). Why wouldn’t we believe them; of course the junta blew up Nordstream 2…. We knew this before Hersh wrote his “blockbuster”
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 10, 2023 08:15 AM

Not unlike Biden telling us about how they were ready to steal 2020. - Oh, that was just a gaffe, we were told.

Posted by: Fool Otto at February 10, 2023 08:19 AM (DB16e)

100 But, you have to put what is being said in context to what we know or what we can ascertain with our own eyes and ears as true, either beyond a shadow of a doubt or within a degree of reasonable certitude.-J.J.

Like the Zero Dark Thirty storyline of U.S. Special Forces flying helicopters into Pakistan undetected to kill OBL vs Hersh's article saying the PAKs were done with OBL and hung him out to dry.

Posted by: Dino58 at February 10, 2023 08:19 AM (LVPff)

101 Cream Cheese Brownie Day? Who comes up with this stuff?

I didn’t even know that cream-cheese brownies were a thing.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 10, 2023 08:20 AM (XR5XV)

102 As a counter-point to the Minnesota story, courts across the country are using garbage psychology called "parental alienation" to take kids from the caring and nurturing parent and force the to be "reunified" with the abusive parent. https://tinyurl.com/3vh8b7y6

Utah's Fourth District Court is fully dedicated to stripping kids out of relatively stable homes and forcing them back to their abusers. Here's one case that is getting some press coverage, but I know of at least ten similar cases going on right now: https://tinyurl.com/yz68sc5r

Posted by: Half Dozen at February 10, 2023 08:20 AM (N57m/)

103 We knew this before Hersh wrote his “blockbuster”
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

How it was done is kind of cool. Bad Ass, really that whole plan and execution. Our military can do some awesome things when it isn't focused on DIE. But... the way Nuland let just enough of the plan slip so that it avoided congressional oversight is criminal. And while I believe Nuland was intentional, I think Brandon was a slip, or he was fed the line by someone who knew what they were doing. In either case, my earlier point that Trump would have been impeached for it before the pipelines were ever blown up because a whistleblower would have run to Adam Schiff still stands.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 08:20 AM (DK4U1)

104 Yes, because even guys who want me in a f#cking death camp can be right once a lifetime.

Dan Kervick, denunciado @DanMKervick · Feb 8
Does anybody doubt that if the My Lai story broke in 2023, the government would deny it, Bellingcat would run interference on it, the Patriotic Left would decry it, social media would de-amplify and disappear it, and Hersh would be framed and sent to a dungeon like Bellmarsh?

[Dan Kervick, denunciado @DanMKervick
Philosopher and historian of philosophy. Socialist, internationalist, anti-imperialist. El derecho de vivir en paz.]

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 10, 2023 08:20 AM (Vwz3I)

105 Hoffs is the same age as Madonna.
One chose wisely.
Posted by: Fool Otto at February 10, 2023 08:01 AM (DB16e)

Agreed. But I also think Hoffs and Hurley are some sort of wonderful mutants.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 10, 2023 08:04 AM (CsVWE)

From what I've read and seen through the years (Cher is a good example who admits it and probably Hoffs and Hurley)

"stars" or folks in general who wish to maintain their youthful appearance longer -

get very small incremental plastic surgeries throughout the years to correct small aging "problems" as they show up.

Also, they diet and exercise a lot.

People who go all in for crash-landing emergency p[lastic surgery wind up looking like puffy alien mutants because...well...

Time is one harsh mistress and will not be denied when the "damage" has already been done.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2023 08:21 AM (KLPy8)

106 University of Michigan Event Calling for Israel's Destruction Broke Federal Law, Legal Group Says
_______

Can't be true. Their call for the destruction of Israel was made out of love, like all leftist demands.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2023 08:21 AM (TgBWG)

107 Perhaps that was a bit harsh of me. There is an element of shock and disbelief that can delude one's thoughts.

Like the parent presented with evidence that their child committed horrible atrocities that say "No, he's a good boy."

It must be miserable for a proud military patriot to see it stray under the influence of a demented liberal POTUS, a megalomaniacal State Department and twisted military brass. I should be more considerate of those that served honorably and how they must be processing this.

Plus, I'm sure a handful are just being good soldiers and toeing that party line. Old grudges against the former USSR due hard, and they may be thinking "The only good Russian is a dead one."

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 10, 2023 08:21 AM (Zqeqr)

108 86 They told us their intentions (Brandon and Nuland). Why wouldn’t we believe them; of course the junta blew up Nordstream 2…. We knew this before Hersh wrote his “blockbuster”
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 10, 2023 08:15 AM (5dxUf)

This. I have a tendency to believe those who are skeptical of the Hersh stuff for the reasons someone outlined above. The report is detailed in such a way that if one minor part is disproven, then the whole idea can be discarded as false in whole.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 10, 2023 08:21 AM (CsVWE)

109 31 many commenters immediately poo-poo'd the report either because it relied on unnamed sources and/or because Sy Hersh is a far-left America-hater.

They poo-poo'd it because they won't consider the possibility that the USA could ever be the bad guy. Pure and simple.
Posted by: Tell It Like It Is at February 10, 2023 07:53 AM (O//Mi)

It's not that we're the bad guy as the left paints us, that is the source of all evil in the world.

It's that some times we have people in power who abuse our heritage for their own nefarious purposes. Part of that was the total overthrow of the nation.

So in that light, today for sure, "America" as it now exists as something other than intended, is the bad guy. Mostly to its own citizenry.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:21 AM (x0n13)

110 From AmThink:
"The OASI Trust Fund reserves are projected to be depleted in 2034, at which time OASI would pay 77 percent of scheduled benefits.

There is NO trust fund. It is a pile of paper, that is bonds, that we must repay ourselves when there is not enough SS funds to cover SS payments. So in 2034 the pile of paper runs out.

Bush offer a buyout plan that added about 35 years and was REJECTED.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2023 08:22 AM (BRHaw)

111 The power to tax is the power to destroy.

We got the power. We will destroy you.

Posted by: IRS at February 10, 2023 08:23 AM (LaNzR)

112 Posted by: LinusVanPelt

If I lived there I would go to Grace. I make do by listening to his daily bible study podcasts in the car when CJN is done.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 08:23 AM (DK4U1)

113 I've been saying since the jump that this was almost definitely us. The regime here is the only party that stood to benefit from it. And it is reckless, stupid, and arrogant to an extent that none of the other global aggressor states are, except North Korea. Only US leadership is both capable enough and psychotic enough to pull shit like this.

I can't even make a case for it being anyone else. It just doesn't make sense.

That said, Hersh gets the automatic scoff. If he gets something right, it's in spite of himself.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 10, 2023 08:24 AM (oINRc)

114 I ran a few quotes from Ace's post and excerpts past Pooky yesterday, and he said it sounded right. He also said it sounded like someone had found the perfect balance with accomplishing an act of war without declaring war.... provided that it didn't leak. I pointed out that of course this administration didn't think it would leak, because they used active military and the modern journalist thinks that if it's not on Twitter, it's not worth reporting on.

Posted by: pookysgirl, throwing out some observations at February 10, 2023 08:24 AM (XKZwp)

115 Socialists Unite! Biden and Brazil's Luna meet today at the White House to discuss election theft and citizen imprisonment.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 10, 2023 08:24 AM (r6KeF)

116 J.J. you summed up, in your intro, *everything* that I was thinking in yesterday's thread but couldn't put into any words resembling eloquence. No I'm no Hirsh apologist, either -- didn't even know who he was until yesterday. Logically I couldn't see dismissing his story out of hand based simply on who he is anything but a fallacy. That's all. Thanks for speaking my thoughts more better.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 10, 2023 08:24 AM (iKBwy)

117 There is NO trust fund. It is a pile of paper, that is bonds, that we must repay ourselves when there is not enough SS funds to cover SS payments. So in 2034 the pile of paper runs out.

Bush offer a buyout plan that added about 35 years and was REJECTED.
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2023 08:22 AM (BRHaw)

I would dismiss this as stuff I have been hearing for the past 40 years, but the end date keeps getting closer. Funny how that works.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 10, 2023 08:24 AM (CsVWE)

118 Pfuk Pfizer

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 10, 2023 08:24 AM (fUnHJ)

119 Bush offer a buyout plan that added about 35 years and was REJECTED.
Posted by: rhennigantx

YOU AINT TOUCHING MY ANTISOCIAL INSECURITY!!!

-90 year old man dragging an oxygen bottle.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 08:25 AM (DK4U1)

120 Gaia: What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world?

Climate Activist: I died.

Catch,
22

Posted by: Marooned at February 10, 2023 08:25 AM (kt8QE)

121 FBI To Retract Catholic Infiltration Memo, Conduct Internal Review
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Not good enough, this needs to be public information.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 10, 2023 08:26 AM (fs1hN)

122 Social security runs out in Dec 2035? Ok. We will fix it with an emergency 10,000 page bill passed at midnight the day benefits run out.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 08:27 AM (DK4U1)

123 Also:

>>"This may come as a shock but given everything that has happened over the past few years, and really going back since the rise of the bureaucracy and the military industrial complex, considering what they've done to this country – what they have succeeded in mutating America into – then you can call me "anti-American" too."
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Sad to say, but "Amen."

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 10, 2023 08:27 AM (iKBwy)

124 >>I can't even make a case for it being anyone else. It just doesn't make sense.

I can partially. I absolutely think the US is involved and probably took a leading role but as Hersh's own reporting states it was Norway that lit the fuse on the bombs and BALTOPS was a NATO exercise not just a US exercise.

I think the entire NATO coalition was at the very least aware if not involved in the operation. But I have never thought Russia blew up their own pipeline.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2023 08:27 AM (ZLI7S)

125 Meanwhile, and totally not shocking anyone, the "Republican" Special Counsel appointed to investigate the Biden classified documents scandal has announced another subpoena of a Republican Trump official, Mike Pence this time. Only Republicans have received subpoenas from this clown so far, I believe.

Weird how that works.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 10, 2023 08:27 AM (r6KeF)

126 "The OASI Trust Fund reserves are projected to be depleted in 2034, at which time OASI would pay 77 percent of scheduled benefits."

I've been debating whether to start getting SS as soon as possible or waiting. The former looks more attractive all the time.

Posted by: fd at February 10, 2023 08:27 AM (iayUP)

127 More than ever, what Gov Sarah Sanders uttered Tuesday night about settling between crazy and normal is becoming the litmus test in this country. Thanks for the link list this morning. . . . . too bad I only have 20 minutes to grind through a small portion of it. I'd already read the article by Julie Kelly about the oppression by the nation's elites on the masses. . . . . .. .pissed me off. . . . . would love to see the final invasion scene in Tony's house in ScarFace be played out in each one of the homes of these arrogant fucks.

Posted by: H8 Marxist Rat Bastards & Ruling Class Tyrants at February 10, 2023 08:27 AM (5uy7A)

128 This. I have a tendency to believe those who are skeptical of the Hersh stuff for the reasons someone outlined above. The report is detailed in such a way that if one minor part is disproven, then the whole idea can be discarded as false in whole.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 10, 2023 08:21 AM (CsVWE)

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Yeah but it's been several days now and no counter "anonymous sources" reporting to the WP or NYT pointing out errors in Hersh's report. I figure the Deep State would really be on top of it to discredit Hersh's report.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 10, 2023 08:27 AM (ffUJI)

129 From the Madonna link:

"The world is threatened by my power and my stamina. My intelligence and my will to survive.
But they will never break me
this is all the test."

The criticisms about her are not really about ageism. Nobody is criticizing because she had plastic surgery to remain youthful...like so many do. The criticism is because of how terrible, distorted and horrible she looks. Nobody is "threatened" by her power and stamina. They're simply horrified by what she's turned into. And ageism has nothing to do with it, with the exception of whatever her own opinions of herself regarding her age are. I think she's projecting quite a bit here.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 10, 2023 08:28 AM (sVtYq)

130 FBI To Retract Catholic Infiltration Memo, Conduct Internal Review
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Not good enough, ~~this needs to be public information~~ the FBI needs to be leveled and leaders prosecuted.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 10, 2023 08:26 AM (fs1hN)
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suggested edit.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 10, 2023 08:29 AM (r6KeF)

131 Gaines said. “Not even probably a year, two years ago, this would have been considered some form of sexual assault, voyeurism. But now not even are they just allowing it to happen, it’s almost as if these large organizations are encouraging it to happen.

Progressives are very prudish and rule making for sexual interactions and quote unquote CONSENT. Unless your call your dick a front pole then all is ok.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2023 08:29 AM (BRHaw)

132 My rule of thumb: if the media is ignoring a story, it's true.

Posted by: Ordinary American at February 10, 2023 08:29 AM (H8QX8)

133 Hersh stuff for the reasons someone outlined above. The report is detailed in such a way that if one minor part is disproven, then the whole idea can be discarded as false in whole.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

It wasn't a piano like tone from the buoy, it was a harpsichord! BOOM! Discredited the whole thing! Disinformation!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 08:30 AM (DK4U1)

134 It's being reported that many illegals that fled to Canada are heading back to New York because it's too cold there.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 10, 2023 08:30 AM (NpAcC)

135 116 Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 10, 2023 08:24 AM (iKBwy)

I think'a your language. . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:30 AM (x0n13)

136 The 'Sovereign Nation' thing to me misses a point that I think is vital. The WEF does not consider nations. They are looking at 'People' in a bucket.

Probably the most concise summary describing the template on how to interpret the events of the day.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 10, 2023 08:30 AM (l7lsb)

137
The FBI itself needs to be retracted. Into Kilauea.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:31 AM (x0n13)

138 Be there, aloha.

ISWYDT.

Posted by: zombie Danno at February 10, 2023 08:31 AM (a3Q+t)

139 I didn't know TN had a copycat anti-DQSH law up for a vote. It's passed the Senate, and may pass the House, there.

I learned this in an article about the chief faggot in Knoxville, who is unhappy. This queen bee is buzzing mad, and he's stirring up the whole hive.

And he's making threats. He says if the law passes, he will cancel the Pride parade in Knoxville because evil Republicans.

I love the reasoning, here: "if you don't let us wave our hairy hogs in your kids faces, then me and my mud-plundering ass palz won't even dress up in bondage gear and suck each other off all day in the middle of your city! We'll see who's crying then, won't we, normies?!"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 10, 2023 08:31 AM (oINRc)

140 Julie Kelly: "No, they’re not cutting off food supplies or building labor camps but these modern-day tyrants seek the same ends: crush the opposition and control the masses."
and
French Farmers March on Paris as EU Climate Rules Threaten Their Livelihoods
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They may not be so open about cutting off food supplies, there may be other effective ways of controling the population through food shortages the world's 'elite' are trying out. See also food centers being destroyed by fire. Btw, w/o any news from the Netherlands, I'm assuming the Dutch farmers lost their battle.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 10, 2023 08:31 AM (fs1hN)

141 "But they will never break me."

You broke yourself.

Posted by: Ordinary American at February 10, 2023 08:31 AM (H8QX8)

142 Progressives are very prudish and rule making for sexual interactions and quote unquote CONSENT. Unless your call your dick a front pole then all is ok.
Posted by: rhennigantx

Most of that shit on the left is just there to keep the right spinning, trying to keep up with rules and call out hypocrisy. When in reality there are no rules and the left doesn't care about hypocrisy.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 08:32 AM (DK4U1)

143 I saw the news yesterday about layoffs, but not a union strike, too! Lol...get rekt, lefties:

NBC and MSNBC Staffers Walk Off the Job to Protest Layoffs Unionized reporters and editors at NBC News staged a walkout on Thursday in protest of recent layoffs and the network’s handling of ongoing contract bargaining.

The staffers gathered out front of the network’s 30 Rockefeller Plaza headquarters, in a gated-off section of the sidewalk, holding signs and accompanied by an inflatable rat—a common prop for union protests—and a giant check railing against “stolen wages.”

Meanwhile, they gave Rachel $30 million to work less MSNBC needs a new person at the helm to get that ship in shape.

To be fair from the network’s point of view, Rachel is worth the money. First, she’s one of the best in the business. Second, she draws an audience. The network likes #2. For them, #1 is good, too.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at February 10, 2023 08:32 AM (NCgXW)

144 Madonna is a twisted old c**t

Posted by: Potatochimp Hominid at February 10, 2023 08:32 AM (lVhB6)

145 Bret Baier publicly bitching after the SOTU debacle that Biden is breaking tradition and refusing an interview (so far) with FNC prior to the Super Bowl didn't apparently work, and the WH is believed to have vetoed a QandA.

Anyone surprised?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 10, 2023 08:33 AM (r6KeF)

146 "The OASI Trust Fund reserves are projected to be depleted in 2034, at which time OASI would pay 77 percent of scheduled benefits."

I've been debating whether to start getting SS as soon as possible or waiting. The former looks more attractive all the time.

Posted by: fd at February 10, 2023 08:27 AM

I started mine up the month I turned 62. We didn't need the money and the plan was to wait to get max benefits but I changed my mind. Been making double mortgage payments with the money ever since and we are turning a 30 year note in 11 years.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 10, 2023 08:33 AM (uNylN)

147 Hersh stuff for the reasons someone outlined above. The report is detailed in such a way that if one minor part is disproven, then the whole idea can be discarded as false in whole.

I disagree. For example, they didn't have to use divers to set the charges, they could have used the underwater drones. That eliminates all of these retired divers coming out and criticizing the sequence and details of the alleged dive.

The drone angle was the original story a week following the event

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 10, 2023 08:33 AM (l7lsb)

148
Bottom line: It's not that I believe Sy Hersh. It's the fact that I CAN believe what he's claiming. Sadly, a hell of a lot more than I can just dismiss the claims out of hand.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:33 AM (x0n13)

149 35 @TheInsiderPaper · 2h
NEW 🚨 Number of Chinese migrants illegally crossing into the US during the last three months of 2022 skyrocketed by over 700% compared to the same period a year earlier, data shows, NY Post reports

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 10, 2023 07:54 AM (Vwz3I)
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Using % is meaningless, Let's see, 1 crossed in 2021 and 8 crossed in 2022 so there's the 700%.

Posted by: Ciampino - to really lie big you need statistics at February 10, 2023 08:34 AM (qfLjt)

150 @140

>>See also food centers being destroyed by fire.

I mean it is kind of curious how food processing plants of a all kinds are suddenly exploding, catching fire or otherwise being destroyed/skuttled all around the world.

Almost as if this was all planned.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 10, 2023 08:34 AM (up/3i)

151 If Biden’s Federal Elections Takeover is "Free and Fair," Why are the Plans Completely Redacted?

--

Somebody please tell me the majority of red state governors are ready with a giant FU to the federal gov't on any -- and I mean any -- takeover of our elections.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 10, 2023 08:34 AM (sVtYq)

152 If we didn't blow up the pipeline, who the hell did? Who else has means, motive and opportunity?

Posted by: Ordinary American at February 10, 2023 08:34 AM (H8QX8)

153 I'm inclined to believe the worst about the US Government

Posted by: DB - Whip Inflation Now! at February 10, 2023 08:35 AM (geLO8)

154 144 Madonna is a twisted old c**t
Posted by: Potatochimp Hominid at February 10, 2023 08:32 AM (lVhB6)

I saw Twisted Old Cvnt open for Twisted Sister at American Gynecological Association Gala in the Bellagio in '97.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:35 AM (x0n13)

155

In Yiddish, the band's name is Gefluchten Schvester.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:36 AM (x0n13)

156 "Is our political class more vicious or more short-sighted?"

And, baby. And.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2023 08:36 AM (a3Q+t)

157 ...provided that it didn't leak.
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Irony alert.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 10, 2023 08:36 AM (Vwz3I)

158 Only God can save this nation now.

Posted by: witness at February 10, 2023 08:36 AM (lVhB6)

159 @152

>>If we didn't blow up the pipeline, who the hell did? Who else has means, motive and opportunity?

It's not outside the means of a lot of nations but the most likely scenario is that it came from inside the house.

The maniacs that are currently in control mean business and nothing is going to be allowed to stop them from implementing their diabolical plans.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 10, 2023 08:36 AM (up/3i)

160 Ukrainian officials say that they almost never launch HIMARS rounds without detailed coordinates provided by U.S. military personnel situated elsewhere in Europe

uh-huh, real time battlefield targeting info being provided from "elsewhere".

Now, pull the other one.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 10, 2023 08:37 AM (r6KeF)

161 Disgust is not a phobia.

Posted by: White Punk on Dope at February 10, 2023 08:37 AM (v2kiT)

162 > Bottom line: It's not that I believe Sy Hersh. It's the fact that I CAN believe what he's claiming. Sadly, a hell of a lot more than I can just dismiss the claims out of hand.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
____________
This

With the same caveat I put on all media sourced stories... it's likely bullshit... but

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 10, 2023 08:37 AM (Q4IgG)

163 I saw Twisted Old Cvnt open for Twisted Sister at American Gynecological Association Gala in the Bellagio in '97.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:35 AM (x0n13)

I was there. Horrible show.

Posted by: Potatochimp Hominid at February 10, 2023 08:38 AM (lVhB6)

164 The maniacs that are currently in control mean business and nothing is going to be allowed to stop them from implementing their diabolical plans.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 10, 2023 08:36 AM (up/3i)

What percentage of Americans do you believe understands this?

Posted by: Ordinary American at February 10, 2023 08:38 AM (H8QX8)

165 That eliminates all of these retired divers coming out and criticizing the sequence and details of the alleged dive.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 10, 2023 08:33 AM

PSA: Divers do it deeper, and stay down longer.

Posted by: Retired divers at February 10, 2023 08:38 AM (a3Q+t)

166 Everyone loves watermelon!

https://tinyurl.com/yfkds63x

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 10, 2023 08:38 AM (Vwz3I)

167 Is mixing and matching Spanish and Hawaiian racist somehow?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 10, 2023 08:39 AM (t0OGg)

168 101 Cream Cheese Brownie Day? Who comes up with this stuff?

I didn’t even know that cream-cheese brownies were a thing.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 10, 2023 08:20 AM (XR5XV)

Soon we will have Insect Flour Brownie Day.

Posted by: Gref at February 10, 2023 08:39 AM (AMIL/)

169 @164

>>What percentage of Americans do you believe understands this?

3 percent tops.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 10, 2023 08:39 AM (up/3i)

170 To Burt:

I say a little prayer for you
I say a little prayer for you

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2023 08:39 AM (BRHaw)

171 #166 update:

Tesla and Doge @TeslaAndDoge · 1h Replying to @mischiefanimals
This is how pandemics start

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 10, 2023 08:40 AM (Vwz3I)

172 Cream Cheese Brownie Day? Who comes up with this stuff?

I didn’t even know that cream-cheese brownies were a thing.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 10, 2023 08:20 AM (XR5XV)
++++
Find a manufacturer of cream cheese brownies.

There. You know who came up with this stuff

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 10, 2023 08:40 AM (t0OGg)

173 167 Is mixing and matching Spanish and Hawaiian racist somehow?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 10, 2023 08:39 AM (t0OGg)

"That's crazy, like mixing Hungarian and Puerto Rican!"

- - zombie Freddie Prinze

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:40 AM (x0n13)

174 What percentage of Americans do you believe understands this?

Id say about 5% of those on the right
and 20% of those on the left

Posted by: McCool at February 10, 2023 08:40 AM (BqBIh)

175 If we didn't blow up the pipeline, who the hell did? Who else has means, motive and opportunity?

Posted by: Ordinary American at February 10, 2023 08:34 AM

We did it. Sure maybe we got a wink and a nod from the Norwegians and the Brits, but we did it. No other country had any reason to do it. Remember biden went on record saying we were going to stop the pipeline if Russia invaded Ukraine.

A whole bunch of countries had every reason for not blowing up the pipeline including Russia and the EU.

I doubt China could have done it, they just don't have the long range assets to conduct an op like that.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 10, 2023 08:40 AM (uNylN)

176 I've been debating whether to start getting SS as soon as possible or waiting. The former looks more attractive all the time.
Posted by: fd at February 10, 2023 08:27 AM

It's easy to run a spreadsheet, and see exactly when (hint: it will be *years* in the future) the total payout crosses.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2023 08:41 AM (a3Q+t)

177 Good morning horde!

In light of the recent conversation regarding certain pipelines, I've spent some time reflecting on our national leadership since I became politically aware.

- Jimmy Carter, one of the two people most responsible for the creation of the current version of Iran
- Ronald Reagan, whose VP was former CIA Director GHW Bush
- GHW Bush, former CIA Director
- Bill Clinton, who started the trend of selling our secrets to the Chinese
- W, son of former CIA Director GHW Bush
- TFG, a man who never met an aspect of western culture that he thought the proles should be able to have
- ORANGEMANBAD, fought tooth and nail by the deep state
- Our current joke

Still unsure why anyone doubts that we were responsible.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 10, 2023 08:41 AM (z99Zw)

178 172. . . cream cheese brownies.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 10, 2023 08:40 AM (t0OGg)

Sounds like the title of a gay porn fetish movie.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:41 AM (x0n13)

179 Yesterday was National Pizza Day, so that means today is National Cold Leftover Pizza Day

Posted by: DB - Whip Inflation Now! at February 10, 2023 08:41 AM (geLO8)

180 179 172. . . cream cheese brownies.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 10, 2023 08:40 AM (t0OGg)

Sounds like the title of a gay porn fetish movie.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:41 AM (x0n13)

The Peter Buttergig Cookbook!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:42 AM (x0n13)

181 My rule of thumb: if the media is ignoring a story, it's true.
Posted by: Ordinary American at February 10, 2023 08:29 AM (H8QX

Excellent point.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 10, 2023 08:42 AM (R/m4+)

182 Yesterday was National Pizza Day, so that means today is National Cold Leftover Pizza Day
Posted by: DB - Whip Inflation Now! at February 10, 2023 08:41 AM (geLO

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I heat it up in the microwave. Can't stand cold pizza. And yes, I do have leftover pizza in my fridge right now.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 10, 2023 08:42 AM (YIVH2)

183 America is ripe for the picking.

Posted by: Ziba at February 10, 2023 08:43 AM (4h9M3)

184 179 Yesterday was National Pizza Day, so that means today is National Cold Leftover Pizza Day
Posted by: DB - Whip Inflation Now! at February 10, 2023 08:41 AM (geLO

It was always national pizza day in my former neck of the woods.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:43 AM (x0n13)

185 Julie Kelly: "No, they’re not cutting off food supplies or building labor camps but these modern-day tyrants seek the same ends: crush the opposition and ~~control~~ impoverish and kill the masses."

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 10, 2023 08:43 AM (l7lsb)

186 Flex?
https://tinyurl.com/bd62cd6z TS/DiscloseTV link
Probably just coincidence we launch an unarmed ICBM when the Nordstream story is getting legs.

Posted by: Fool Otto at February 10, 2023 08:43 AM (DB16e)

187 Detransitioners’ Are Being Abandoned By Medical Professionals Who Devastated Their Bodies And Minds

https://tinyurl.com/4c6jrt8j

Posted by: redridinghood at February 10, 2023 08:43 AM (NpAcC)

188 3 percent tops.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 10, 2023 08:39 AM (up/3i)

About what I was going to say.

Posted by: Ordinary American at February 10, 2023 08:43 AM (H8QX8)

189 We did it. Sure maybe we got a wink and a nod from the Norwegians and the Brits, but we did it. No other country had any reason to do it. Remember biden went on record saying we were going to stop the pipeline if Russia invaded Ukraine. ...
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 10, 2023 08:40 AM (uNylN)
+++++
If it wasn't an accident - if it was sabotage by a non-Russian country - then it was us. Even if the idea wasn't ours, it was us. We are the ones who can do it and have the might to bully others to cooperating. Britain could technically do it, but if they made the wrong assumption about US motivations or tolerances, then Britain is swimming naked and finished. This was a big power move, and we're the ones with the big power.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 10, 2023 08:43 AM (t0OGg)

190 Looking back on history I’d say it all started to go off the rails for the federal government when we got rid of the spoils system. Was that under Grover Cleveland? The spoils system might’ve seemed “gross” but at least the pol who actually got votes was in charge of who was in the bureaucracy. Now we have an unaccountable and out of control bureaucracy beyond the reach of voters

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 10, 2023 08:43 AM (5dxUf)

191 The network likes #2.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at February 10, 2023 08:32 AM

Given it's NBC/MSNBC, I rate this statement 100% true.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2023 08:44 AM (a3Q+t)

192 The Peter Buttergig Cookbook!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:42 AM (x0n13)
++++
:: vomits ::

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 10, 2023 08:44 AM (t0OGg)

193 Hersh reported the truth--in spite of himself.
One has to wonder Why he reported it but it looks, and smells like the truth of the matter.
There's 0 doubt that Biden(Kalorama) are obsessively committed to provoking all out, most likely nuclear, conflict with Russia,
And the only reason one can think Kalorama would do that is the same reason you might give for why they unleashed a Chinese Plandemic on us.

Posted by: Voter theater. at February 10, 2023 08:44 AM (b8JkM)

194 Was Hersh wrong in the past?

Posted by: runner at February 10, 2023 08:44 AM (6F7eb)

195 A big thank you to J.J. for all the links... I can't imagine the hours and effort which goes into finding and posting the information.

I wish so much of it wasn't so depressing. It's definitely worse than the Obama era was and you hope that the average voter will respond, will wake up, but like in the People's Republic of Massachusetts here, it's gotten more totalitarian, as the years go by...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at February 10, 2023 08:44 AM (TGPs7)

196 Still unsure why anyone doubts that we were responsible.

We The People were not responsible, the occupying enemy force that answers to Beijing/WEF/Davos are.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 10, 2023 08:45 AM (l7lsb)

197 101 Cream Cheese Brownie Day? Who comes up with this stuff?

I didn’t even know that cream-cheese brownies were a thing.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 10, 2023 08:20 AM (XR5XV)
________

According to Crusader Rabbit (which was the beta version of Rocky and Bullwinkle), there is a committee which does so. Once, having run out of ideas, they decided to just stick a pin in the dictionary four times. The results were:

Rag
Land
Tee
Tiger

And a new season began.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2023 08:45 AM (TgBWG)

198 It was always national pizza day in my former neck of the woods.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:43 AM

Given your current neck of the woods, are your preparations for National Lutefisk Day underway yet?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2023 08:45 AM (a3Q+t)

199 Cold leftover pizza is the breakfast of champions.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 10, 2023 08:45 AM (hTf8I)

200 About Pakistan knowing about Osama? Syria?

Posted by: runner at February 10, 2023 08:46 AM (6F7eb)

201 194 Was Hersh wrong in the past?
Posted by: runner at February 10, 2023 08:44 AM (6F7eb)

To the best of my recollection, he was right about the My Lai Massacre.

That said, it was the John Kerry's of this world who used one incident to paint the entire American military as monsters. And so it goes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:46 AM (x0n13)

202 I saw Twisted Old Cvnt open for Twisted Sister at American Gynecological Association Gala in the Bellagio in '97.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

I was there. Horrible show.
Posted by: Potatochimp Hominid
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Even their "Rag Against the Machine" encore sucked!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 10, 2023 08:46 AM (Vwz3I)

203 Insiders say - DeSantis will run for Preezy in 2024.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 10, 2023 08:47 AM (D25PY)

204 198 It was always national pizza day in my former neck of the woods.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:43 AM

Given your current neck of the woods, are your preparations for National Lutefisk Day underway yet?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2023 08:45 AM (a3Q+t)

Even my wife, her siblings and her mother (who was from Boston) HATED that crap too! It was her Swedish dad who inflicted that on them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:47 AM (x0n13)

205 cream cheese brownies.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 10, 2023 08:40 AM (t0OGg)

Sounds like the title of a gay porn fetish movie.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:41 AM (x0n13)
*****
Ewww. Now I'm not in the mood for cream cheese brownies anymore.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 10, 2023 08:47 AM (NpAcC)

206
It must be miserable for a proud military patriot to see it stray under the influence of a demented liberal POTUS, a megalomaniacal State Department and twisted military brass. I should be more considerate of those that served honorably and how they must be processing this.
Plus, I'm sure a handful are just being good soldiers and toeing that party line. Old grudges against the former USSR due hard, and they may be thinking "The only good Russian is a dead one."
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

I think you nailed it here. The country I was a good soldier and patriot for, died when Regan was shot. It's been Commie Light growing towards Commie Heavy ever since. I've seen shit in nuclear forces from my active duty days that will turn your hair white, so nothing Hersh wrote is unbelievable for me. Who benefits? The FUSA.

Posted by: BifBewalski at February 10, 2023 08:47 AM (3CCua)

207 Given your current neck of the woods, are your preparations for National Lutefisk Day underway yet?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2023 08:45 AM (a3Q+t)

There is no National Lutefisk day, for a reason.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2023 08:47 AM (45fpk)

208 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 10, 2023 08:41 AM (z99Zw)

In keeping the list consistent:

-TFG, a man created by the CIA from biological conception.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 10, 2023 08:47 AM (iKBwy)

209 You choose to believe what you profess to know. If it is inconsequential you can just shrug your shoulders and say"I don't know." Otherwise, just like a jury member, you take the information presented and weigh it against logic, possibility, probability and the other things you believe you know. What happens from that is you accept the information as true, likely or false. You may have to change previously held beliefs.

Posted by: Minuteman at February 10, 2023 08:48 AM (LaNzR)

210 202Even their "Rag Against the Machine" encore sucked!
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 10, 2023 08:46 AM (Vwz3I)

Guest singer was Sybian Danning. And here come da puns!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:48 AM (x0n13)

211 >America is ripe for the picking.

Posted by: Ziba

I've been thinking about this too- degraded military, weak leadership, a large swath of the population preoccupied with depravity and perversion...

Posted by: DB - Whip Inflation Now! at February 10, 2023 08:48 AM (geLO8)

212 Bottom line: It's not that I believe Sy Hersh. It's the fact that I CAN believe what he's claiming. Sadly, a hell of a lot more than I can just dismiss the claims out of hand.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:33 AM (x0n13)

Well, let's get past Hersh and anonymous for a minute.
It's not that I can't believe it happened the way Hersh and anonymous said, it's that it's unlikely for this reason.

Biden through the years has had two moves regarding foreign policy:
1) forego any aggressive/military action against bad actors, and
2) Give them money. Give bad actors lots and lots of that sweet green American taxpayer money. And they'll do what we want and/or leave us alone.
If Hersh and anonymous said, Biden gave Putin $2T to get out of Ukraine, I'd believe that instantly.

More likely though, using the Hersh and anonymous
outline, here's what's much more likely and a HUGE thing if it did happen:

If the Russian pipeline was blown-up by the US,

Senile Joe didn't order it. It was actually ordered by one of his keepers or perhaps the Joint Chiefs themselves.
They ignored President Trump's legal orders, why not just "create" some
(con't

Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2023 08:48 AM (KLPy8)

213 USA was always the most likely culprit, since Biden had even promised to do something to shut it down if Russia attacked. They had motive and opportunity.

Motive (?) to break a growing relationship between Russia and Germany (and the EU?). Opportunity ... probably the most capable, but there are others (probably).

Sadly, the junta also is also attacking domestic US energy. Not sure what their end game is ... maybe they assume China will fail, or they have another plague ready, or a few false flags then war? DeepState is AssHoe.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 10, 2023 08:49 AM (Cus5s)

214 Animal rights group sent a letter to Bootyjudge saying that Elon was trafficking infectious diseases in his Nuralink monkeys.

Within hours the DOT sent a press release stating they opened an investigation into Elon.

The FBI still hasn't gotten around to investigating Hunters laptop.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 08:50 AM (DK4U1)

215 I imagine some ex-military and current military hate him. Abu )Graib, Vietnam. Especially Vietnam. Now he is pissing them off again. But is he wrong?

Posted by: runner at February 10, 2023 08:50 AM (6F7eb)

216 199 Cold leftover pizza is the breakfast of champions.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 10, 2023 08:45 AM (hTf8I)

That and, as we used to refer to it, "cold Chinks." I use the expression merely for historical reference, not as a slur.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:50 AM (x0n13)

217 Even my wife, her siblings and her mother (who was from Boston) HATED that crap too! It was her Swedish dad who inflicted that on them.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:47 AM (x0n13)
=====================
On the good side, even kids get vodka shots to go along with the rotten fsh

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 10, 2023 08:50 AM (rNYOk)

218 Mother, please remove your penis from my ear. I can't hear myself typing shit that the Kos Kids find stupid.

Posted by: Paul [Kurt] at February 10, 2023 08:50 AM (hHeAK)

219 crossed a line

Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2023 08:51 AM (45fpk)

220 Joe Biden is an idea. A social construct.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at February 10, 2023 08:51 AM (DK4U1)

221 People that have never tasted country ham are consigned to the hell known as lutefisk and gefilte fish.

Posted by: Puddihead at February 10, 2023 08:51 AM (C7jzY)

222 (con't)

They ignored President Trump's legal orders, why not just "create" some new Preezy Joe orders?

Could this be what really happened? Sure, given the players.

It's just more likely this way.

But, still Hersh and anonymous, I need more proof.

Maybe if anonymous came forward and turned out to be someone of note in a position to know,

not the bathroom janitors sisters boyfriend's brother-in-law.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2023 08:52 AM (KLPy8)

223 Lol
Maybe now Hillary will have learned not to interfere with American elections.
Don't fuck with the Dark Clinton.

Posted by: Paul [Kurt] at February 10, 2023 08:52 AM (hHeAK)

224 216 I assume that expression refers to cold Chinese food?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 10, 2023 08:52 AM (hTf8I)

225 Biden was fully involved. None of the Chiefs at the pentagon would take that upon themselves. So there is a trail. And i think there will be more reports.

Posted by: runner at February 10, 2023 08:52 AM (6F7eb)

226 LUTEFISK DAY
On December 9th, Lutefisk Day reminds residents in Norway, Finland, and Sweden to begin preparing their lutefisk for Christmas. The day is also referred to as Anna’s Day.

Along with those in Norway, Finland, and Sweden, lutefisk is consumed in the U.S by Scandinavian Americans. One place in particular that consumes large amounts of lutefisk is Madison, Minnesota. In fact, this town has been dubbed, “the “lutefisk capital of the world.” The dish is especially popular among Lutherans. Sons of Norway organizations host annual lutefisk dinners.

Lutefisk is also consumed in many parts of Canada.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2023 08:52 AM (a3Q+t)

227 Maybe if anonymous came forward and turned out to be someone of note in a position to know,

not the bathroom janitors sisters boyfriend's brother-in-law.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2023 08:52 AM (KLPy

Are you kidding? They come forward and they'll be the next guy that didn't kill themselves.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 10, 2023 08:53 AM (UuD2k)

228 oh look

Posted by: DB - Whip Inflation Now! at February 10, 2023 08:53 AM (geLO8)

229 Detransitioners’ Are Being Abandoned By Medical Professionals Who Devastated Their Bodies And Minds
Posted by: redridinghood at February 10, 2023 08:43 AM (NpAcC)
++++
Prisha doesn’t know why she’s been turned away from so many doctors and medical providers - whether it’s about money, politics, or a lack of knowledge to help.

If I had to guess, it's "all of the above," but the third factor is the biggest one. "Gender transitioning" (a philosophically *and* linguistically offensive construction) is not really understood at all. But one thing is clear at this point to everyone who is paying attention: it can break you, but it cannot fix you.

"Detransitioning" is not possible. You can step down off the drugs and get surgeries and this might help your health to some degree or make you less outwardly abnormal but you will still be broken. This stuff messes around with primal forces in the body, and it cannot be undone. It's a permanent alteration and there is no going back. This is well understood now (as is the fact that there is no going forward, either - the underlying premise is unachievable).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 10, 2023 08:53 AM (t0OGg)

230 The question is did he and does he still hate America blindly for the wrong reasons or does he hate the depredations of the post World War 2 American government

******

I'm of the view that there exists on the American political spectrum a place where the extreme left and the extreme right fold around and cross over behind the mainstream and merge into an indistinguishable entity. So, kind of a political Moebius strip rather than a spectrum. I don't particularly care to live in that zone, because it requires being suspicious of everybody and everything to the point of detaching yourself from the world. You might call it the Kaczynski zone.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 10, 2023 08:54 AM (ykeLU)

231 The best lutefisk is made from the guitarfish.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 10, 2023 08:54 AM (hTf8I)

232 And the House of Representatives unanimously passed a resolution condemning the spy balloon as a “brazen violation of United States sovereignty",
------------

Oh for fuck's sake.

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2023 08:55 AM (aVSqR)

233 If the Russian pipeline was blown-up by the US,

Senile Joe didn't order it. It was actually ordered by one of his keepers or perhaps the Joint Chiefs themselves.
-----------------
We are run by the CIA. Biden is just another puppet like Obama, Bush I & II, Clinton, Carter, Johnson and Ford. The CIA is profoundly against the idea of citizens and their choices directing the US.

Posted by: Puddihead at February 10, 2023 08:55 AM (C7jzY)

234 While we consider #BID #LIB because #FJB #FALLOFTHEM

remember this important tip:
diesel >>>> gasoline
bonfire purveyors agree if splody you want then gas
if deep seated ~~hate~~ heat then diesel

Happy Birthday JJ

Posted by: micky at February 10, 2023 08:55 AM (3byMq)

235 > You might call it the Kaczynski zone.

Posted by: Muldoon

paranoia strikes deep
into your life it will creep

Posted by: DB - Whip Inflation Now! at February 10, 2023 08:55 AM (geLO8)

236 Ukrainian officials say that they almost never launch HIMARS rounds without detailed coordinates provided by U.S. military personnel situated elsewhere in Europe

Did Musk/Starlink finally pull their support for providing satellite based data services to the Ukraine military?

Musk gifted the Ukraine people with continued internet service that was costing his company tens of millions. While everyone else on the planet is making bank on the "war" in Ukraine, Musk was hemorrhaging money - then adding insult to injury The Party Military integrated Musk's satellite network into the war against Russia exposing Starlink to military retaliation by Russia.

Leave it to the Ruling Class to corrupt and abuse everything.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 10, 2023 08:56 AM (l7lsb)

237 203 Insiders say - DeSantis will run for Preezy in 2024.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 10, 2023 08:47 AM (D25PY)

No question.

Posted by: Ordinary American at February 10, 2023 08:56 AM (H8QX8)

238 naturalfake makes a good point. Brandon has a long standing record of pussying out of any decisive action, internationally. So blowing up the pipeline, if we did it, was ordered by someone else.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 10, 2023 08:56 AM (TgBWG)

239 Good morning everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 10, 2023 08:56 AM (DXrUa)

240 A couple of things re Nordstream. First the admin/NATO knew it was an act of war and did it anyway. The Russians did not return fire and they knew NATO blew it up. So basically we got away with it. If it's dumb and it works it's not dumb. Not giving them any credit for doing it but they took a calculated risk and they won the bet.

Also Hershs anonymous source is trying to get out of the way of the blame. He says that he warned the admin it was an act of war and they did it anyway.

Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2023 08:56 AM (pwExq)

241 Republican Rep. Bob Good Asks How "Biden Crime Family" Money ""Compromised How the President Has Treated China"
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Now, this kind of shit I can get behind. We need 250 people talking like this, not one or two.

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2023 08:57 AM (aVSqR)

242 I've been debating whether to start getting SS as soon as possible or waiting. The former looks more attractive all the time.
Posted by: fd at February 10, 2023 08:27 AM (iayUP)

I'm taking it the minute I hit 62 1/2. If it is still available in 10 years.

Posted by: Reforger at February 10, 2023 08:57 AM (y7vBV)

243 TGIF, horde!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2023 08:57 AM (mqu1M)

244 "If the Russian pipeline was blown-up by the US,
Senile Joe didn't order it. It was actually ordered by one of his keepers or perhaps the Joint Chiefs themselves."

In keeping with his lying braggart nature, Joe could have been throwing out an empty threat about shutting down the pipeline. Then the Joint Chiefs went ahead and did it, could always blame Joe if it came to light. ... or not, idk.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 10, 2023 08:57 AM (Cus5s)

245 This stuff messes around with primal forces in the body, and it cannot be undone. It's a permanent alteration and there is no going back. This is well understood now (as is the fact that there is no going forward, either - the underlying premise is unachievable).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 10, 2023 08:53 AM (t0OGg)
---
Sounds like there is an "event horizon" to the transitioning process. Up to a certain point, recovery is probably possible. But once the effects of the drugs become permanently ingrained in the body, there probably isn't any way to reverse the process. You can stop the process, but not turn it back. It's a one-way ratchet.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 10, 2023 08:57 AM (YIVH2)

246 When you get in bed with your enemy, you may catch his disease.

Posted by: Caliban at February 10, 2023 08:57 AM (iC8vi)

247 "They" blew up the pipeline, but "they" didn't want to blow up the balloon.

I think it makes perfect sense.

Posted by: Ziba at February 10, 2023 08:58 AM (4h9M3)

248 Many suspected that it was US. Especially when the first "theory" that started to circulate was that RUS blew it up themselves. For insurance money, obviously.

Posted by: runner at February 10, 2023 08:58 AM (6F7eb)

249 Mornin’, Tonypete.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 10, 2023 08:58 AM (hTf8I)

250 And the House of Representatives unanimously passed a resolution condemning the spy balloon as a “brazen violation of United States sovereignty",
------------

Oh for fuck's sake.
Posted by: ...

Purely performative. Yay!
Almost makes renaming post office's seem serious by comparison.

Posted by: micky at February 10, 2023 08:59 AM (3byMq)

251 Should we refer to the explosive setting dive as a "code red"?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 10, 2023 08:59 AM (NKtqs)

252 *offices

Posted by: micky at February 10, 2023 08:59 AM (3byMq)

253 Posted by: Paul at February 10, 2023 08:52 AM
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You DICK!!!

Posted by: jeff spicoli's brother at February 10, 2023 08:59 AM (Vwz3I)

254 "Detransitioning" is not possible. .... This stuff messes around with primal forces in the body, and it cannot be undone....
Posted by: Joe Mannix

********

Yeah, Mannix. It is analogous to imposing a genetic mutation at an early stage of embryologic development leading to a birth defect, such as a cardiac anomaly. The cascade, of subsequent events is irreversible. The rate of developmental change in utero is much faster than in adolescence, but the two are equally inexorable.

And we can patch up a malformed heart and make it suffice, but we can't return it to a normal baseline.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 10, 2023 08:59 AM (ykeLU)

255 We are run by the CIA. Biden is just another puppet like Obama, Bush I & II, Clinton, Carter, Johnson and Ford. The CIA is profoundly against the idea of citizens and their choices directing the US.

When people set up an agency specifically tasked with overthrowing governments and destabilizing society; year after year dramatically expanding their budget while simultaneously allowing their own autonomy, then killing off their biggest customer by ending the Cold War, then spending at least two generations telling people the greatest threat is White Privilege and Capitalism. Do not be at all surprised that the monster ends up attacking its creator.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 10, 2023 08:59 AM (l7lsb)

256 "It's easy to run a spreadsheet, and see exactly when (hint: it will be *years* in the future) the total payout crosses.
Posted by: Duncanthrax"

I've done that but what about when there is no money at all? Better to get some than none.

Posted by: fd at February 10, 2023 09:02 AM (iayUP)

257 >>"Former University of Kentucky swimmer Riley Gaines demands the NCAA have separate locker rooms for transgender athletes."

On the one hand, you have feminists likening the "male gaze" to sexual harassment/assault. And heaven forbid an awkward, not totally handsome dude ask them out and make them feel uncomfortable and unsafe!

On the other hand, girls: just put up with that naked dude who's just sauntered into the shower in the locker room.

These jerks have so messed up natural and normal male-female interactions.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2023 09:02 AM (mqu1M)

258 And the House of Representatives unanimously passed a resolution condemning the spy balloon as a “brazen violation of United States sovereignty",

At least they were pissing away time on something vain and frivolous rather than scheming to raise taxes and increase harmful regulation.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 10, 2023 09:02 AM (l7lsb)

259 Well, you do have to admit that

Biden. He got us into World War 3

is a compelling campaign slogan.

Posted by: Splunge at February 10, 2023 09:02 AM (2Nn0L)

260 145 Bret Baier publicly bitching after the SOTU debacle that Biden is breaking tradition and refusing an interview (so far) with FNC prior to the Super Bowl didn't apparently work, and the WH is believed to have vetoed a QandA.

Anyone surprised?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 10, 2023 08:33 AM (r6KeF)

Biden would do a five minute pre-Super Bowl interview with a Fox News employee...if Fox News hired Chris Wallace for a half-hour to do the interview.

"Mr. President, what was the best Super Bowl, in your opinion as a former college football player?"

"Chris, for me, every Super Bowl was terrific! And I promise they will be more terrific beginning next year, because of the Infrastructure Bill and the Inflation Reduction Act! I wrote both of those, you know, Let me tell your viewers how these laws will improve their lives..."

Posted by: Gref at February 10, 2023 09:02 AM (AMIL/)

261 I've been debating whether to start getting SS as soon as possible or waiting. The former looks more attractive all the time.

I've run the 62-65-67-70 with a termination age of 90 scenario in Excel and the best bang for the buck in my circumstance is to wait until 65.

Posted by: Halfhand at February 10, 2023 09:02 AM (Ud/Am)

262 Pushing kids to "transition" is trading adolescence for obsolescence.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 10, 2023 09:02 AM (ykeLU)

263 As far as money goes anyway.

Posted by: fd at February 10, 2023 09:02 AM (iayUP)

264 Once you cut off the parts, they do not grow back, ever. Do they tell the kids that?

Posted by: Ziba at February 10, 2023 09:03 AM (4h9M3)

265 Biden's energy secretary met with China-connected group fueling gas stove bans in US

https://tinyurl.com/2723pxys

Posted by: redridinghood at February 10, 2023 09:03 AM (NpAcC)

266 >And we can patch up a malformed heart and make it suffice, but we can't return it to a normal baseline.

Posted by: Muldoon

This made me think of the Bee Gees

Posted by: DB - Whip Inflation Now! at February 10, 2023 09:03 AM (geLO8)

267 >>[NJ] Town’s Entire Leadership Flees Democratic Party, Joins The GOP

Watch out -- might get shot!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2023 09:04 AM (mqu1M)

268
This made me think of the Bee Gees

Posted by: DB - Whip Inflation Now! at February 10, 2023 09:03 AM (geLO

I love that song.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2023 09:04 AM (45fpk)

269 Where's the J6 tapes, Kevin?

Posted by: micky at February 10, 2023 09:04 AM (3byMq)

270 Maybe if anonymous came forward and turned out to be someone of note in a position to know,

not the bathroom janitors sisters boyfriend's brother-in-law.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2023 08:52 AM (KLPy

Are you kidding? They come forward and they'll be the next guy that didn't kill themselves.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 10, 2023 08:53 AM (UuD2k)

I'm not kidding. Hersh IMHO has been such antagonistic dickweed throughout the years and an unreliable (to say the least) broker, that the smart bet is that it's just another pile of Hershian anti-American bullshit.

The only way to know and avoid the real world problems for us that could and probably should happen if I were Putin is for everyone to lay their cards on the table.

Reminder: I don't support Putin in any way. But, there's a lot of problems he could cause US right here in the good ole USofA.

And that is in line with Hersh's longterm support of communism's and Russia's goals and insane antagonism toward the US.

I'm not likely to believe a long term enemy of this country just because his lately crapfest aligns with political convenience.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2023 09:05 AM (KLPy8)

271 Seems John McArthur iis now Emmanuel Goldstein.

Posted by: Eromero at February 10, 2023 09:05 AM (z3WCn)

272 Good morning, all, and Thank You, JJ. I find it believable.

Tying a teeny bit to the ONT, in 1971 the Vietnam War was raging & draft threatened many young men not already in uniform. It was also the time of the Cold War era.

The U.S. conducted Operation Ivy Bells with the objective of placing wire taps on Soviet underwater communication lines and, in October 1971, sent the submarine USS Halibut deep into the Sea of Okhotsk. The operation was later compromised later & surveillance satellites showed Soviet vessels anchored over the site of the taps in 1981.

The Cold War was declared over by our H.W. Bush & Gorbachev in 1989, when Soviet forces withdrew from Afghanistan AND communist-backed governments & Soviet allies in Eastern Europe were replaced. (Emphasis added)

Just hours ago, Zelensky's latest ‘Ukraine Is Europe’ appeal for the European Union membership which he began application for only days after Russia invaded.

50 years apart, similarities.

Posted by: Lola at February 10, 2023 09:05 AM (Wxlzw)

273 Where's the J6 tapes, Kevin?
Posted by: micky at February 10, 2023 09:04 AM (3byMq)
++++
What tapes?

Posted by: Magnetic bulk eraser and industrial metal shredder at February 10, 2023 09:05 AM (t0OGg)

274 Once you cut off the parts, they do not grow back, ever.
Posted by: Ziba at February 10, 2023 09:03 AM

I'm sensing a market opportunity.

Posted by: Lizard Dick at February 10, 2023 09:05 AM (a3Q+t)

275 248 Many suspected that it was US. Especially when the first "theory" that started to circulate was that RUS blew it up themselves. For insurance money, obviously.
------------------
As I recall, the Russians required Germany to indemnify their costs should the Germans decide not to use the pipeline. Basically, loss of the pipeline is on Germany's dime. Add to that, that even using US Gas was more expensive to the Germans than using Russian gas. The point of blowing the pipeline was simply to keep Germany in NATO and to fluff the value of a NATO. Basically, Germany, as a Nation, no longer exists. It is and will always be a satrap to the Americans. All this Green Bullshit just masks the truth.

Posted by: Puddihead at February 10, 2023 09:06 AM (C7jzY)

276 I've been debating whether to start getting SS as soon as possible or waiting. The former looks more attractive all the time.
Posted by: fd at February 10, 2023 08:27 AM (iayUP)

All of the analysis which leads to recommending waiting is based on SS existing, with no deleterious changes, for the remainder of your life.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 10, 2023 09:06 AM (z99Zw)

277 Posted by: Gref at February 10, 2023 09:02 AM (AMIL/)

.....

"Chris, name me one coach that wants to trade places with Andy Reid right now. Name one! Name one!"

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 10, 2023 09:06 AM (Zqeqr)

278 I suspect Sy Hersh was fed a story that the feds will now disprove in the details such that they can pretend that the US blowing up the pipeline has been debunked.

Remember they did the same thing with Pizzagate vs the Epstein operation.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 10, 2023 09:06 AM (lc5cP)

279 I've run the 62-65-67-70 with a termination age of 90 scenario in Excel and the best bang for the buck in my circumstance is to wait until 65.
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Check the Expiry Date on your biggest credit card. Those things give me the willies!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 10, 2023 09:07 AM (Vwz3I)

280

I wonder who Hersh's source was?

Not disregarding the very real possibility it was made up, was it a CIA employee? Defense Dept? Why use Hersh? Why drop the news now?

While a mostly right report he's not exactly right. Who is his source protecting?

Seems like a grassy knoll plot against Joey, but the way the deep state seems so proud of in-your-face mendacity these days who knows?

Posted by: Auspex at February 10, 2023 09:07 AM (j4U/Z)

281 148
Bottom line: It's not that I believe Sy Hersh. It's the fact that I CAN believe what he's claiming. Sadly, a hell of a lot more than I can just dismiss the claims out of hand.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 08:33 AM (x0n13)

I agree with your take on Sy. It's not where I thought I would be either, because I can't stand the guy. However, in light of recent (well, since the term of GEOTUS) events, I'm inclined to trust the enemy of my enemies. What burns me, however, is how our 'conservative' media didn't break this story instead. Between the likes of Greenwald, Wolf and Taibbi we have precious few like them. And the few we do have, like O'Keefe, Hemingway and Devine are fragged by their supposed 'allies' in that 'conservative' media that I'm talking about.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 10, 2023 09:07 AM (/iWhV)

282 >I've been debating whether to start getting SS as soon as possible or waiting. The former looks more attractive all the time.

I looked at my numbers and decided to go on the dole now. Tomorrow is promised to no man. Plus I have other monies- it's weird, but I'll earn more as a retiree than as a worker.

Posted by: DB - Whip Inflation Now! at February 10, 2023 09:08 AM (geLO8)

283 Reminder: I don't support Putin in any way. But, there's a lot of problems he could cause US right here in the good ole USofA.
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I would point out that Putin is the only adult in the room, lately. The EU is a fucking nursing home.

Posted by: Puddihead at February 10, 2023 09:08 AM (C7jzY)

284 I'm of the view that there exists on the American political spectrum a place where the extreme left and the extreme right fold around and cross over behind the mainstream and merge into an indistinguishable entity.

The only way to rationally hold that view is to assert that the "extreme right", like The Left, holds at heart a Life Unworthy of Life view of humanity - where people are simply diseased cattle that needs to be managed/eliminated.

The "Extreme Right" is a slur invented by The Left to slander people who have an Imago Dei (image of God) view of humanity.

The two are ideological extremes. It is not possible to view people as the image of God and as disease cattle at the same time, or to hold one view and act as if one holds the other. The Left is always looking to harm and kill people, while the Extreme Right™ look towards human flourishing

Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 10, 2023 09:08 AM (l7lsb)

285 Nord Stream gets sabotaged, Western Europe needs a new supply of gas. The US sends what little gas it has to Europe at an inflated price. Big Guy gets his cut.

Russian retaliation was never considered.

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 10, 2023 09:08 AM (Q4IgG)

286 " then you can call me "anti-American" too."

Sad but true. The United States under the current regime gas metastasized into one of the, if not the, greatest forces of evil in the world today. At some point, and I pray its soon, we have to push back. Starting with Ukraine. It should be easy to make that case - no one wants to go to war over that corrupt craphole.

Posted by: Mookie at February 10, 2023 09:08 AM (7Mqc1)

287 it's weird, but I'll earn more as a retiree than as a worker.
Posted by: DB - Whip Inflation Now! at February 10, 2023 09:08 AM (geLO

And people wonder why it's hard to find workers?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 10, 2023 09:08 AM (eYoxG)

288 People in white lab coats view the rest of the population as cattle when they are at their worst.

Never forget the holocaust and lysenkoism were both perpetrated by the "educated."

Posted by: sven at February 10, 2023 09:08 AM (Lzpvj)

289 All of the analysis which leads to recommending waiting is based on SS existing, with no deleterious changes, for the remainder of your life.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

I have plenty of buddies that didn't live long enough to collect a dime.

A bird in the hand. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at February 10, 2023 09:08 AM (DXrUa)

290 There are only two potential culprits for blowing up that pipeline

1) The US
2) The US's allies using US equipment

Posted by: 18-1 at February 10, 2023 09:09 AM (lc5cP)

291 269 Where's the J6 tapes, Kevin?

That worthless cocksucker has to get the go ahead from his husband first.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 10, 2023 09:09 AM (D25PY)

292 >>Western culture routinely allows men to wrinkle up without collective tsk-tsking. Aging superstars like Sylvester Stallone, Liam Neeson and Clint Eastwood grow older, and craggier, while the cruel insults are kept mostly in check.

Uh, yes and no. Stallone has had work done, and the spray tan+dark-dyed hair is awful. A LOT of male actors/celebrities have work done, too. See: Kenny Rogers and Wayne Newton for Madonna-like weirdness.

And really, who here thought Madonna was capable of aging gracefully? Anyone? Bueller, Bueller. . . ?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2023 09:09 AM (mqu1M)

293 And we can patch up a malformed heart and make it suffice, but we can't return it to a normal baseline.
Posted by: Muldoon

This made me think of the Bee Gees
Posted by: DB - Whip Inflation Now! at February 10, 2023 09:03 AM (geLO

*sings*

And how can you mend
A chopped of dick?
When looking at your wound hole
Makes me sick

How can I give your tits back
Or your fertility?
...
...

Posted by: Zombie Bee-Gees at February 10, 2023 09:09 AM (KLPy8)

294 "I've run the 62-65-67-70 with a termination age of 90 scenario in Excel and the best bang for the buck in my circumstance is to wait until 65." Posted by: Halfhand

I've always heard it is best to wait till 70, as long as you plan to live to 90+.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 10, 2023 09:09 AM (Cus5s)

295 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 10, 2023 09:10 AM (Zz0t1)

296 272 placing wire taps on Soviet underwater

I first read that as “Soviet underware.”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 10, 2023 09:10 AM (hTf8I)

297 Eh, I guess at this point all we can hope for is that Biden doesn't order a missile strike on the Goodyear blimp during the Super Bowl, confusing it for a spy balloon

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 10, 2023 09:10 AM (Zqeqr)

298 >>I'm of the view that there exists on the American political spectrum a place where the extreme left and the extreme right fold around and cross over behind the mainstream and merge into an indistinguishable entity.

Yeah, see Jimmy Dore and Russell Brand agreeing more with based conservatives than progressives and GOPe cucks.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2023 09:11 AM (mqu1M)

299 I mean it is kind of curious how food processing plants of a all kinds are suddenly exploding, catching fire or otherwise being destroyed/skuttled all around the world.

Almost as if this was all planned.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 10, 2023 08:34 AM (up/3i)

I love how they tell us that this is nothing. Food plants catch on fire and explode all the time. You just never noticed it before because it's so commonplace that we never reported it before. We're reporting it now, though, because everything is going so swimmingly that we've got nothing else to talk about.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 10, 2023 09:11 AM (z99Zw)

300 290 Posted by: 18-1 at February 10, 2023 09:09 AM (lc5cP)

The US wound up doing the dumbest things possible if true.

1) Gosh Nordstream will allow Putin to blackmail EUtopia this winter, and we don't want that...prices will rise regardless.

2) Gosh the pipeline blew up they are buying off us taking the NG we would have sold domestically....driving up the price here as well!

The only way it would have been a winning move would have been to simultaneously take steps to maximize US energy production...that did not happen.

Posted by: sven at February 10, 2023 09:11 AM (Lzpvj)

301 I'm of the view that there exists on the American political spectrum a place where the extreme left and the extreme right fold around and cross over behind the mainstream and merge into an indistinguishable entity.

The ruling left doesn't really care about what the activist left wants. Most of the activist left is actually ok with that because what they really want is power just like the ruling left.

But there are some leftwing activists that are noticing the ruling left doesn't give a shit about all the things they claim to believe in and are now in part off the leftwing plantation.

But this is NOT the far right and the far left overlapping.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 10, 2023 09:11 AM (lc5cP)

302 I've always heard it is best to wait till 70, as long as you plan to live to 90+

The total end payout IS greater, true. But I take into consideration QoL at that age vs. 65.

Posted by: Halfhand at February 10, 2023 09:11 AM (Ud/Am)

303 It's easy to run a spreadsheet, and see exactly when (hint: it will be *years* in the future) the total payout crosses.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 10, 2023 08:41 AM (a3Q+t)

This will do it:

Compare Two Application Ages *it is the second form down)

Compare Two Application Ages

You will need your current 62.5 and 67 (FRA) benefits state from ssa.gov.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2023 09:12 AM (BRHaw)

304 >And people wonder why it's hard to find workers?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

well I worked and paid payroll taxes for 51 years; I'm spent

Posted by: DB - Whip Inflation Now! at February 10, 2023 09:12 AM (geLO8)

305 Rev waited an extra year before taking SS, which added 8 percent to his monthly benefit.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2023 09:13 AM (45fpk)

306 300 290 Posted by: 18-1 at February 10, 2023 09:09 AM (lc5cP)

The US wound up doing the dumbest things possible if true.

1) Gosh Nordstream will allow Putin to blackmail EUtopia this winter, and we don't want that...prices will rise regardless.

2) Gosh the pipeline blew up they are buying off us taking the NG we would have sold domestically....driving up the price here as well!

The only way it would have been a winning move would have been to simultaneously take steps to maximize US energy production...that did not happen.
Posted by: sven at February 10, 2023 09:11 AM (Lzpvj)

It really does remove the blackmail option. Russia can't restore natural gas to Germany, so Germany has no reason to capitulate.

Factions focused on foreign policy don't necessarily coordinate with those focused on other issues.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 10, 2023 09:13 AM (eYoxG)

307 294 "I've run the 62-65-67-70 with a termination age of 90 scenario in Excel and the best bang for the buck in my circumstance is to wait until 65." Posted by: Halfhand

I've always heard it is best to wait till 70, as long as you plan to live to 90+.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 10, 2023 09:09 AM (Cus5s)

83 yr and 5 months is my breakeven at 62.5 vs. 67.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2023 09:13 AM (BRHaw)

308 New Mexico Bill Aims to Lower Voting Age to 16

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 10, 2023 09:13 AM (D25PY)

309 289 All of the analysis which leads to recommending waiting is based on SS existing, with no deleterious changes, for the remainder of your life.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

I have plenty of buddies that didn't live long enough to collect a dime.

A bird in the hand. . . .
Posted by: Tonypete at February 10, 2023 09:08 AM (DXrUa)

It really should be based on how much you're making now vs how much you'd get on SS. If SS is more and you have significant assets and no ability to make more money (or your health is terminal), you always take early. As those factors fall away, you wait later and later.

It's also based on how much you might want to stay on work healthcare vs Medicare - for my cancer, that's currently huge - in a few decades, it may not be. But, for now, my spouse is planning to work and stay on regular healthcare as long as possible b/c my Medicare single pill treatment costs would be 5 digits plus just for one pharmaceutical treatment. And with the 2025 bill excluding less than 9 year patents from the 2K cap, I'll probably always have that 5 digits once I start...

Posted by: Nova Local at February 10, 2023 09:13 AM (exHjb)

310 305 Rev waited an extra year before taking SS, which added 8 percent to his monthly benefit.
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Grammie, did you ever get round to trying a Nutrageous candy bar?

Posted by: Puddihead at February 10, 2023 09:13 AM (C7jzY)

311 304 >And people wonder why it's hard to find workers?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

well I worked and paid payroll taxes for 51 years; I'm spent
Posted by: DB - Whip Inflation Now! at February 10, 2023 09:12 AM (geLO

Not blaming you for retiring, just noting that it's become increasingly common for payouts for not working to be excessive.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 10, 2023 09:13 AM (eYoxG)

312 I first read that as “Soviet underware.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

"Svimvear. . . "
"Evninkvear. . ."
"Undervear. . . "

Posted by: Tonypete at February 10, 2023 09:14 AM (DXrUa)

313 It's weird that I can remember the Super Bowl being played on a Sunday afternoon (2pm or so) without any political stuff attached to it. The NFL is ruined beyond repair.

Posted by: dantesed at February 10, 2023 09:14 AM (88xKn)

314 The Left is always looking to harm and kill people, while the Extreme Right™ look towards human flourishing
Posted by: Reuben Hick at

Well said.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at February 10, 2023 09:14 AM (eGTCV)

315 Grammie, did you ever get round to trying a Nutrageous candy bar?

Posted by: Puddihead at February 10, 2023 09:13 AM (C7jzY)

No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2023 09:14 AM (45fpk)

316 I'm taking it the minute I hit 62 1/2. If it is still available in 10 years.
Posted by: Reforger

I'm at 60. I'm hoping to wait until 67. Any time before that and I take $1k a month (half of it) off the table.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2023 09:15 AM (SbJgO)

317 308 New Mexico Bill Aims to Lower Voting Age to 16
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They should also cut two years off High School and graduate students at 16 like they did before FDR. I know the Teachers Unions won't like that.

Posted by: Puddihead at February 10, 2023 09:15 AM (C7jzY)

318 Where the left sucks in all it's forms, yet still figures out that bad is bad, we should applaud it for, if nothing else, to let them know we're watching.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 10, 2023 09:15 AM (Zz0t1)

319 We The People were not responsible, the occupying enemy force that answers to Beijing/WEF/Davos are.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at February 10, 2023 08:45 AM (l7lsb)

Hopefully Vlad goes for the polonium cocktail rather than the big boom then.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 10, 2023 09:15 AM (z99Zw)

320 Morning, all,

Any confirmation of the news I've read that the price of eggs is on its way down?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 10, 2023 09:15 AM (J2vNu)

321 298 >>I'm of the view that there exists on the American political spectrum a place where the extreme left and the extreme right fold around and cross over behind the mainstream and merge into an indistinguishable entity.

Yeah, see Jimmy Dore and Russell Brand agreeing more with based conservatives than progressives and GOPe cucks.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2023 09:11 AM (mqu1M)

Agreed. I'm of the view - which is not that controversial - that the TEA Party and Occupy Wall Street were two sides of a similar anti-establishment coin. As such, both sides were in a better position to unite on some general principles than what was ordinarily thought. Of course, each both got subsumed within their respective mainstream parties, with varying results for each. The result was, however, that it's only now that the sides are slowly coming together for a reckoning against an all-too-clear Deep State.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 10, 2023 09:16 AM (/iWhV)

322 New Mexico Bill Aims to Lower Voting Age to 16
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They should also cut two years off High School and graduate students at 16 like they did before FDR. I know the Teachers Unions won't like that.
Posted by: Puddihead at February 10, 2023 09:15 AM (C7jzY)

Just lower the age of everything to 12. Drinking, voting, military service, marriage.....

FULL MONTY!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 10, 2023 09:16 AM (Zz0t1)

323 I'm tired. I'll worry about speaking proper English later.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 10, 2023 09:17 AM (Zz0t1)

324 Agreed. I'm of the view - which is not that controversial - that the TEA Party and Occupy Wall Street were two sides of a similar anti-establishment coin. As such, both sides were in a better position to unite on some general principles than what was ordinarily thought. Of course, each both got subsumed within their respective mainstream parties, with varying results for each. The result was, however, that it's only now that the sides are slowly coming together for a reckoning against an all-too-clear Deep State.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 10, 2023 09:16 AM (/iWhV)

Generally left-wing movements of this nature are astro-turfed. What was the aim of Occupy Wall Street in real terms? Larger banks and a more consolidated banking system.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 10, 2023 09:17 AM (eYoxG)

325 313 It's weird that I can remember the Super Bowl being played on a Sunday afternoon (2pm or so) without any political stuff attached to it. The NFL is ruined beyond repair.
Posted by: dantesed at February 10, 2023 09:14 AM (88xKn)

Listen to our latest podcast with Buck Throckmorton. We cover the NFL's demise.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 09:17 AM (x0n13)

326 Who benefits? And....follow the money....

Posted by: runner at February 10, 2023 09:17 AM (6F7eb)

327 The only way it would have been a winning move would have been to simultaneously take steps to maximize US energy production...that did not happen.
Posted by: sven at February 10, 2023 09:11 AM (Lzpvj)
++++
Unless the goal was to corner Europe and prevent the EU's leading power from seeking terms with Russia and trying to put together a separate peace. If Germany cracked and tried to go their own way with Russia and negotiate, backing off of sanctions, etc., that would be counter to a lot of US goals for this conflict. Making it so the gas *can't* be turned back on at any price prevents the Germans from blinking. It has various other consequences for the US, too, some of which are positive if you discount human cost and fairness - such as the likely end of the German economy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 10, 2023 09:17 AM (t0OGg)

328 320 Morning, all,

Any confirmation of the news I've read that the price of eggs is on its way down?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 10, 2023 09:15 AM (J2vNu)

As you mention this, I just checked my Target site - they dropped their 18 count generic from $7.79 to $7.29 earlier this week and now it's $5.79. I guess a lot of people were like me and have bought very few eggs for a month vs their normal buy...

Posted by: Nova Local at February 10, 2023 09:18 AM (exHjb)

329 >Any confirmation of the news I've read that the price of eggs is on its way down?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

well, where I live, the price has sort of plateaued -
still, almost twice what it was a year ago

Posted by: DB - Whip Inflation Now! at February 10, 2023 09:18 AM (geLO8)

330 New Mexico Bill Aims to Lower Voting Age to 16

One should not be allowed to vote until they are provably self-sufficient.

Posted by: Halfhand at February 10, 2023 09:18 AM (Ud/Am)

331 Did Congress ever get around to taking the nuclear codes away from Senile Joe?

Posted by: That Northern skulker at February 10, 2023 09:18 AM (eGTCV)

332 315 Grammie, did you ever get round to trying a Nutrageous candy bar?

Posted by: Puddihead at February 10, 2023 09:13 AM (C7jzY)

No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn.
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You still have time to discover the ecstasy of Nutrageous.

Posted by: Puddihead at February 10, 2023 09:18 AM (C7jzY)

333 1600 employees fired at Yahoo. 20 percent of their employees.

I'll be in my bunk for a while.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 10, 2023 09:19 AM (D25PY)

334 Agreed. I'm of the view - which is not that controversial - that the TEA Party and Occupy Wall Street were two sides of a similar anti-establishment coin. ...
Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 10, 2023 09:16 AM (/iWhV)
++++
Opposite extremes can easily agree on the underling problems - a corrupt government that is predatory, unjust and unfair, for example - but will rarely agree on solutions to those problems.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 10, 2023 09:19 AM (t0OGg)

335 Back from the supe; and I remain convinced that there is a secret law prohibiting road repair in Pa.

Posted by: JT at February 10, 2023 09:20 AM (T4tVD)

336 327 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 10, 2023 09:17 AM (t0OGg)

I have always assumed for a lifetime of analytics that despite negative PR the American govenrment was about maximizing outcomes for itself and its coterie of allies.

A big assumption yes, but one I knowingly made my peace with in my development.

An America that can hamstring Germany to "save the Earf" and its "proxy warz forever" is not one worthy of positive effort.

Posted by: sven at February 10, 2023 09:20 AM (Lzpvj)

337 I'm sorry but when we leak info do you think we leak info to that Nazi Tucker Carlson?

Sy has reported accurately on our operations before. He has good sources in the Company.

https://tinyurl.com/6ch975yw

Posted by: Friendly Neighborhood CIA Officer at February 10, 2023 09:20 AM (0A5+1)

338 New Mexico Bill Aims to Lower Voting Age to 16

If you are old enough to vote and affect my life, you are old enough and mature enough to buy and carry a pistol.

If you aren't mature enough to buy and carry a pistol, you shouldn't be anywhere near a voting booth.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2023 09:20 AM (SbJgO)

339 One should not be allowed to vote until they are provably self-sufficient.
Posted by: Halfhand at February 10, 2023 09:18 AM (Ud/Am)

Agree, maybe have 12 quarters of SSI statements.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2023 09:20 AM (BRHaw)

340
Generally left-wing movements of this nature are astro-turfed. What was the aim of Occupy Wall Street in real terms?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 10, 2023 09:17 AM (eYoxG)

To shit on cop cars?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 10, 2023 09:21 AM (Zz0t1)

341 328 Posted by: Nova Local at February 10, 2023 09:18 AM (exHjb)

Purely anecdotal but at my Southern WI market, regular eggs are around $4.00 a dozen. There was a weird spike a few weeks ago but it's back down around 4 bucks.

The overinflated free range and "organic" varieties are at about 6-7 a dozen.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 09:21 AM (x0n13)

342 Halfhand @ 330-
And a taxpayer.

Posted by: Eromero at February 10, 2023 09:21 AM (z3WCn)

343 Has this made national news yet? This is what allowing mass car thefts results in:

On Sunday, police received a report of a stolen vehicle in the 8300 block of East Northfield Boulevard. The owner of the vehicle, a man, tracked the vehicle on an app to the area of West 12th Avenue and Decatur Street, police said. The man approached the car and got into an exchange of gunfire with people inside the vehicle.

“A juvenile male then drove the stolen vehicle to the 2900 block of West 10th Ave. where he was found by officers to be suffering from a gunshot wound,” the release said. The juvenile was taken to a hospital where he later died. . .

On Tuesday, the Denver Office of the Medical Examiner identified the juvenile as 12-year-old Elias Armstrong. He died of a gunshot wound and his manner of death is a homicide.

4 "juveniles" arrested last month for several carjackings/pistol-whipping the owners last month

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2023 09:21 AM (mqu1M)

344 Senile Joe's latest test out of an excuse to see if it will stick was:

I waited to shoot down the commie balloon because what if it landed on a school.

I guess schools are occupied 24/7/365...

Posted by: Archer at February 10, 2023 09:21 AM (gmo/4)

345 One should not be allowed to vote until they are provably self-sufficient.

and are property owners.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 10, 2023 09:21 AM (D25PY)

346
As you mention this, I just checked my Target site - they dropped their 18 count generic from $7.79 to $7.29 earlier this week and now it's $5.79. I guess a lot of people were like me and have bought very few eggs for a month vs their normal buy...
Posted by: Nova Local at February 10, 2023

***
I buy a dozen every 10 days. I was having 2 eggs for breakfast 4 days a week; now I hold it down to 1 egg.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 10, 2023 09:21 AM (J2vNu)

347 1600 employees fired at Yahoo. 20 percent of their employees.

I'll be in my bunk for a while.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 10, 2023 09:19 AM (D25PY)

YAHOOOO--ooooo!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 10, 2023 09:21 AM (Zz0t1)

348 And really, who here thought Madonna was capable of aging gracefully? Anyone? Bueller, Bueller. . . ?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2023 09:09 AM (mqu1M)

I have long imagined she would age with all the grace and beauty of a banana.

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2023 09:21 AM (aVSqR)

349 Fuck the nfl. I was a die hard fan and looked forward to every single game played... bought my kid all of the Redskin swag and loved spending my time with the boy watching and talking about football... and then the took the knee and started pushing things that were not football. I quickly learned that there is other stuff you can do on a Sunday other than watching a league that hates me and people like me. I'll never look back

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at February 10, 2023 09:22 AM (flINI)

350 1600 employees fired at Yahoo. 20 percent of their employees.

I'll be in my bunk for a while.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Have they called for the death of the CEO like they did for Musk?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2023 09:22 AM (SbJgO)

351 302 I've always heard it is best to wait till 70, as long as you plan to live to 90+

The total end payout IS greater, true. But I take into consideration QoL at that age vs. 65.
Posted by: Halfhand at February 10, 2023 09:11 AM (Ud/Am)

In the fatalist world I grew up in something was always going to kill me soon. I didn't plan on making it to 50 let alone 90. I feel a bit victimized. Have had to jump through hoops galore to semi insure I won't live in a gutter at 80 should I make it that far.
The unbelievable reality of even seeing SS benefits in the near future to me is proof I should take it at the first chance.

Cold war/climate paranoia/chicken little childhood programming is hard to shirk.

Posted by: Reforger at February 10, 2023 09:22 AM (kWqx6)

352 My memory is Occupy Wallstreet wanted more taxes on "the rich" which would include the middle class, loan forgiveness for leftwingers, and more government giveaways.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 10, 2023 09:22 AM (lc5cP)

353 The stupidity of it all is that after the blew up Nordstream, the Europeans had to turn to LNG, which they purchase from.....

Answer at the link.

https://tinyurl.com/2d8xvddd

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 10, 2023 09:22 AM (Zqeqr)

354 An America that can hamstring Germany to "save the Earf" and its "proxy warz forever" is not one worthy of positive effort.
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Teh Dems are managing their decline.

Posted by: Puddihead at February 10, 2023 09:22 AM (C7jzY)

355 > I've run the 62-65-67-70 with a termination age of 90 scenario in Excel and the best bang for the buck in my circumstance is to wait until 65." Posted by: Halfhand
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Alternative POV:

Take what you can get ASAP as there may not be anything later. If SS is your only source of retirement income... you're on thin ice as it is.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 10, 2023 09:22 AM (Q4IgG)

356
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 10, 2023 09:17 AM (t0OGg)

Definitely. If we're responsible for this, and I think we are, then we are sacrificing Germany on the Altar of The Almighty Grift.

Which on its face, I don't particularly care about. Europe, like America, is the past, and it doesn't much matter what happens to it. All of it will die on the vine soon anyway.

But it's still really stupid politics - a few moves like that, and the countries who've been willing to tolerate your country for various reasons will start assessing their options when it comes to you and your constant treachery.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 10, 2023 09:23 AM (oINRc)

357 The CDC has officially taken the recommendation of its vaccine panel and added a triple dose of the COVID shot to its list of recommended vaccinations for American kids, toddlers, and babies - a list used by many public school systems to determine which shots a child must have in order to start school.

Per the updated guidelines, healthy kids 6 months old and up should receive a two doses of either the Moderna or Pfizer-BioNTech monovalent COVID-19 vaccine followed by a bivalent vaccine or booster.

this is fucking scary

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2023 09:23 AM (BRHaw)

358 You don't have to do a lot of deep thinking about whether or not the Biden Administration blew up the gas pipeline. Just look at his words.

He said he would end Nordstream 2, and then one day Nordstream 2 is ended.

Take Joe Biden at his word.

We don't need unnamed sources. We have Joe Biden telling us he was going to do it.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 10, 2023 09:23 AM (lf83v)

359 “Pfizer’s decision had far-reaching effects.”
How Pfizer Fixed the Election

There was a time back during the C19 hysteria that I considered taking the shot; I ultimately didn't. During that time, however, the only one that I remotely considered was the JNJ. There was no way that I would have ever taken the Pfizer, and that was specifically because of the role they had in minimizing Trump's chances for reelection by pushing back their announcement until Nov 2020. This article only shows that I was right not to trust PFE.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 10, 2023 09:23 AM (/iWhV)

360 Back from the supe; and I remain convinced that there is a secret law prohibiting road repair in Pa.
Posted by: JT at February 10, 2023 09:20 AM (T4tVD)

I will do everything I can, while I'm flying......who lit a match? Where am I? Waffling road to nowhere......

Posted by: John Fetterman at February 10, 2023 09:23 AM (Zz0t1)

361 I've run the 62-65-67-70 with a termination age of 90 scenario in Excel and the best bang for the buck in my circumstance is to wait until 65.
Posted by: Halfhand at February 10, 2023 09:02 AM (Ud/Am)

Does that take into account the drop to 77%, assuming it happens?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 10, 2023 09:23 AM (z99Zw)

362 One should not be allowed to vote until they are provably self-sufficient.
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and are property owners.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 10, 2023

***
And were born, and remain resolutely, male. (Yeah, I know, not a popular view, but women vote Dem and for "safety" in overwhelming numbers.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 10, 2023 09:23 AM (J2vNu)

363 And a taxpayer.

I've always said that if you want to really effect change in this country, eliminate the automatic withholding. Make people write that check to government every payday.

Posted by: Halfhand at February 10, 2023 09:24 AM (Ud/Am)

364 349 Fuck the nfl. I was a die hard fan and looked forward to every single game played... bought my kid all of the Redskin swag and loved spending my time with the boy watching and talking about football... and then the took the knee and started pushing things that were not football. I quickly learned that there is other stuff you can do on a Sunday other than watching a league that hates me and people like me. I'll never look back
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HTTR. I feel the same. But Now We Have the Commandos!

Posted by: Puddihead at February 10, 2023 09:24 AM (C7jzY)

365 Take the SS money and run.

Posted by: Ziba at February 10, 2023 09:24 AM (4h9M3)

366 Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at February 10, 2023 09:22 AM (flINI)

My brother!

Posted by: Archer at February 10, 2023 09:24 AM (gmo/4)

367 352 My memory is Occupy Wallstreet wanted more taxes on "the rich" which would include the middle class, loan forgiveness for leftwingers, and more government giveaways.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 10, 2023 09:22 AM (lc5cP)

It was also used as a launching platform for Dodd-Frank.

Which killed small bank creation. No new small banks and an ever-shrinking pool of mega banks.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 10, 2023 09:24 AM (eYoxG)

368 An America that can hamstring Germany to "save the Earf" and its "proxy warz forever" is not one worthy of positive effort.
Posted by: sven at February 10, 2023 09:20 AM (Lzpvj)
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It has nothing to do with "saving the earth" and everything to do with industrial competition and a realigning world order. Europe is weak but belligerent and has been a pain in the ass for a long time. They won't be in a pain in the ass anymore. They have no damn choice but to do what they're told now. I think we probably *didn't* want a war in Ukraine, but we made it inevitable and when it finally happened, we changed the rulebook pretty suddenly.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 10, 2023 09:24 AM (t0OGg)

369 Mornin’, Wolfus.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 10, 2023 09:24 AM (ffbyg)

370 353 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 10, 2023 09:22 AM (Zqeqr)

Yup, more expensive, more dangerously delivered, at greater security risk....

like I said the only way the move made sense was if the donks did a 180 and fell in love with fracking which they either cannot or will not.

Hell it would even have been an economic boom for Boston which has one of the world's largest LNG port facilities.

The mules are seriously trying for a mass die off IMHO.

Posted by: sven at February 10, 2023 09:25 AM (Lzpvj)

371 Our Wal Mart 18 ct XL eggs are back down to $5.52 from $9.60.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2023 09:25 AM (SbJgO)

372 352 My memory is Occupy Wallstreet wanted more taxes on "the rich" which would include the middle class, loan forgiveness for leftwingers, and more government giveaways.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 10, 2023 09:22 AM (lc5cP)

Top 20% of earners pay about 80% or so of taxes.

Top 10% about 50%.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2023 09:25 AM (BRHaw)

373 "Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. "

Corinthians 13:6

Posted by: Marcus T at February 10, 2023 09:25 AM (T9WMp)

374 I've run the 62-65-67-70 with a termination age of 90 scenario in Excel and the best bang for the buck in my circumstance is to wait until 65.
Posted by: Halfhan

By any chance, what inflation / time money factor did you use?

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at February 10, 2023 09:25 AM (NW9xb)

375 I quickly learned that there is other stuff you can do on a Sunday other than watching a league that hates me and people like me. I'll never look back
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at February 10, 2023 09:22 AM (flINI)

*TWEEEEEEET!*

Flag on the play. Unnecessary regaining of life back. 15 yard penalty. The Chiefs get to replay 3rd down.

*TWEEEEEEET!*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 10, 2023 09:25 AM (Zz0t1)

376 Take the SS money and run.
Posted by: Ziba at February 10, 2023

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I'm taking it, but I haven't been able to run yet. Fears of F. Joe's economy getting steadily worse are making me keep my head down.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 10, 2023 09:26 AM (J2vNu)

377 I've run the 62-65-67-70 with a termination age of 90 scenario in Excel and the best bang for the buck in my circumstance is to wait until 65.
Posted by: Halfhan

"That's a HUGE bitch!"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 10, 2023 09:26 AM (Zz0t1)

378 HTTR. I feel the same. But Now We Have the Commandos!
Posted by: Puddihead at February 10, 2023 09:24 AM (C7jzY)

***

And Danny the boy Owner thinks his expansion team, The Commancheros, are worth 7 Billion dollars. Funny that

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at February 10, 2023 09:26 AM (flINI)

379 And were born, and remain resolutely, male. (Yeah, I know, not a popular view, but women vote Dem and for "safety" in overwhelming numbers.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 10, 2023 09:23 AM (J2vNu)

I am of the same opinion. I know it isn't popular; however, that doesn't make it less true.

Posted by: Archer at February 10, 2023 09:26 AM (gmo/4)

380 368 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 10, 2023 09:24 AM (t0OGg)

Sorry I cannot buy the bunch of foppish EUtopiaphiles of the left suddenly old yellerin' EUtopia no matter how much it would make me laugh.

There is a battle between the dumbasses who actually believe their apocalypse cult pap and the realists....

and I'd say there are not a lot of realists anymore or our behavior would be very different.

Posted by: sven at February 10, 2023 09:27 AM (Lzpvj)

381
Top 20% of earners pay about 80% or so of taxes.

Top 10% about 50%.
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2023 09:25 AM (BRHaw)

So? Shitting on cop cars made them feel SOOOOO much better.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 10, 2023 09:27 AM (Zz0t1)

382
Can I file for SS and still collect a paycheck?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 09:28 AM (x0n13)

383 The Nord Stream offshore pipeline repair strategy – preparing for contingencies
25 September 2015, 12:00 am; pipeliner magazine australia
https://tinyurl.com/37bzv77v

Nord Stream repair may take at least six months, says lawmaker
Four Nord Stream gas pipeline leaks have been uncovered, with the most recent one being pinpointed by Sweden’s coast guard

YUZHNO-SAHALINSK, September 29.2022. /TASS/. Repairing the ruptures that occurred on the lines of the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines may take more than six months, Pavel Zavalny, who heads the State Duma’s (lower house) Committee on Energy, believes.

In his opinion, there are two ways to fix the damage: making a caisson (a watertight chamber used in underwater construction work or as a foundation - TASS), or hoisting the gas pipelines to the surface.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 10, 2023 09:28 AM (Vwz3I)

384 373 "Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. "

Corinthians 13:6
Posted by: Marcus T at February 10, 2023 09:25 AM (T9WMp)

It will also keep us together!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2023 09:28 AM (BRHaw)

385 357
this is fucking scary
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2023 09:23 AM (BRHaw)

And even scarier are the parents that will get their small children jabbed. Horrendous.

Posted by: Ziba at February 10, 2023 09:28 AM (4h9M3)

386 There will be a NFL referee in the Super Bowl. Allegedly, he was a former Hawaiian Judge.

In case the team with the least racial equity loses, he will extend the game until they find enough touchdowns for that team.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 10, 2023 09:28 AM (lf83v)

387 382
Can I file for SS and still collect a paycheck?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 09:28 AM (x0n13)

Its 100 k or 105k

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2023 09:29 AM (BRHaw)

388 I'm convinced that if the rank and file on our side was more like the Left, we wouldn't be in this position with so many things.

There are treacherously few ways in which the Left has it "right" but one if them is its rank willingness to "go there", long before anyone sane might.

Posted by: ... at February 10, 2023 09:29 AM (aVSqR)

389 Mornin’, Wolfus.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 10, 2023

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Morning, B.! 'Tis Friday, a consummation devoutly to be wished!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 10, 2023 09:29 AM (J2vNu)

390 By any chance, what inflation / time money factor did you use?

tbh, I didn't account for inflation under the assumption of COLA adjustments to SS, both of which are unknown variables.

Posted by: Halfhand at February 10, 2023 09:30 AM (Ud/Am)

391 Wait... you can work and still get an SS check?

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at February 10, 2023 09:30 AM (flINI)

392 "The total end payout IS greater, true. But I take into consideration QoL at that age vs. 65." Posted by: Halfhand

Depends on how dependent you are on that payment. If you are comfortable, you can still "live it up" and retire early, but take the payments later.

But yes, whether BigGov plans to kill us or kill SS before we reach 90 is another factor.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 10, 2023 09:30 AM (Cus5s)

393 Indeed, Wolfus, indeed.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 10, 2023 09:31 AM (ffbyg)

394 JJ I was wrong

For 2023, the Social Security earnings limit is $21,240. For every $2 you exceed that limit, $1 will be withheld in benefits.

For the period between January 1 and the month you attain full retirement age, the income limit increases to $56,520 (for 2023) without a reduction in benefits. For every $3 you exceed that limit, $1 will be withheld in benefits.

Again, once you reach full retirement age, there is no reduction in benefits regardless of your income level.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 10, 2023 09:31 AM (BRHaw)

395 388 I'm convinced that if the rank and file on our side was more like the Left, we wouldn't be in this position with so many things.

There are treacherously few ways in which the Left has it "right" but one if them is its rank willingness to "go there", long before anyone sane might.
Posted by: ... at February 10, 2023 09:29 AM (aVSqR)

You also need leadership and organizers to make things like that work. Union politics, which are corrupt and violent but effective, takes people who know how to run such an operation.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 10, 2023 09:31 AM (eYoxG)

396 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 10, 2023 09:31 AM (Zz0t1)

397 Can I file for SS and still collect a paycheck?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023

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JJ, I've been doing it for a year now. Be aware that you may have to pay taxes on the SS if you make too much at your regular job, or if your state (spit!) taxes SS. You're in WI now, right? That state doesn't include SS in your taxable income.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 10, 2023 09:32 AM (J2vNu)

398 Noodus gratia artis

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 10, 2023 09:32 AM (ffbyg)

399 395 Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 10, 2023 09:31 AM (eYoxG)

right they are called crime families...

Posted by: sven at February 10, 2023 09:32 AM (Lzpvj)

400 Generally left-wing movements of this nature are astro-turfed. What was the aim of Occupy Wall Street in real terms?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 10, 2023 09:17 AM (eYoxG)

To shit on cop cars?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 10, 2023 09:21 AM (Zz0t1)

In that case...

Another complete victory for the Democrats/Progtards.

*sigh*

Posted by: Zombie Bee-Gees at February 10, 2023 09:32 AM (KLPy8)

401 My take is that Hersch is right and I believe that because MacGregor stated that the only ones capable of doing this were the US, UK or Norway. Therefore I think the UK was likely involved.

Posted by: CN at February 10, 2023 09:33 AM (Zzbjj)

402 There are treacherously few ways in which the Left has it "right" but one if them is its rank willingness to "go there", long before anyone sane might.

Because being a leftwing activist is a way to get PAID.

Becoming a rightwing activist means putting serious restrictions on your ability to earn money and constant harassment.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 10, 2023 09:33 AM (lc5cP)

403
Besides being a commercial ridden bore, NFL is fixed, according to no less than Jerry Rice.

Last Super Bowl's dramatic last drive included a number of pass interference calls favoring the Rams; Matthew Stafford winning was the script.

Posted by: Auspex at February 10, 2023 09:35 AM (j4U/Z)

404 Can I file for SS and still collect a paycheck?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023

Yes, but you have a fairly large tax-liability if you're not at your age of full retirement.

If you've say 67 or whatever your full age of retirement is,

you can earn as much as you like without it affecting your SS.

But, you know, check with your accountant before doing anything.

Posted by: Zombie Bee-Gees at February 10, 2023 09:36 AM (KLPy8)

405 Re: J6 tapes

Since these useless fucks restrict emails, I've attempted to 'pass this along to the speaker' an email to my useless rep John Carter. It is not clear that the form actually worked either. Feature not a bug.

My other question for bigK (not mentioned in the John Carter email) is what was Kev's part in the construction of the Capitol fencing?

I'll not sully these comment boxes further about these things but I'm expecting fully to get zero action and we'll be seeing those tapes sometime between day infinity - 1 day and infinity

Carry on.

Posted by: micky at February 10, 2023 09:36 AM (3byMq)

406 343 12…that is just a kid who should still be riding his bike with friends. 6 months older than my littlest one. Wow.

Posted by: Piper at February 10, 2023 09:36 AM (ZdaMQ)

407 Global Engagement Center

Mission: To direct, lead, synchronize, integrate, and coordinate U.S. Federal Government efforts to recognize, understand, expose, and counter foreign state and non-state propaganda and disinformation efforts aimed at undermining or influencing the policies, security, or stability of the United States, its allies, and partner nations.

Musk released a Twitter thread on the GEC calling the entity a threat to our democracy.

Posted by: SMOD at February 10, 2023 09:37 AM (RHGPo)

408 I enjoy colorful writing. But you have allowed the invective to make your writing unclear. I had to read a number of your sentences several times to understand what you were saying.

Respectfully, I would suggest that clarity is the first priority and spiciness second.

Posted by: Skeptic at February 10, 2023 09:38 AM (CT9rY)

409 404 Posted by: Zombie Bee-Gees at February 10, 2023 09:36 AM (KLPy

Thank you! I am now a freelancer and income is spotty at best.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2023 09:39 AM (x0n13)

410 Google is searching for ways to reassure people that it is still out in front in the race for the best artificial intelligence technology. And so far, the internet giant seems to be coming up with the wrong answer. An advert designed to show off its new AI bot, showed it answering a query incorrectly. Shares in parent company Alphabet sank more than 7% on Wednesday, knocking $100bn (£82bn) off the firm's market value

Posted by: SMOD at February 10, 2023 09:39 AM (RHGPo)

411
Musk released a Twitter thread on the GEC calling the entity a threat to our democracy.
Posted by: SMOD at February 10, 2023 09:37 AM (RHGPo)

I'm sure he's right and Mollie Hemingway said that out government is using our money to hire foreign entities to monitor us.

Posted by: CN at February 10, 2023 09:41 AM (Zzbjj)

412 Has there ever been an accounting of how much money has been stolen from SS through government malfeasance?

Only the fictitious 'lockbox' which can only speak slightly better than a Fetterman could say.

Posted by: micky at February 10, 2023 09:41 AM (3byMq)

413 NEW - Bill Gates believes ChatGPT, a biased AI chatbot, is as "significant as the invention of the Internet" and it "will change the world."
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at February 10, 2023 07:59 AM (Vwz3I)
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He also said AI would become sentient and destroy the world. He's an idiot.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at February 10, 2023 09:41 AM (b306O)

414 Polish general warns that Zelensky has nuclear weapon

Apparently it's no longer just about tanks and fighter jets for Ukraine: According to Polish General Waldemar Skrzyptzak (67), the government in Kiev is said to have nuclear weapons once again. Other experts believe that even if they do not have such a weapon now, they'll have one soon.

Posted by: SMOD at February 10, 2023 09:42 AM (RHGPo)

415 He also said AI would become sentient and destroy the world. He's an idiot.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at February 10, 2023 09:41 AM (b306O)

Bill Gates is destroying the world all by himself, he doesn't need AI. When the devil takes him, there should be a national day of celebration

Posted by: CN at February 10, 2023 09:43 AM (Zzbjj)

416 "The conservative case for getting into bed with Seymour Hersh."

At a certain point, you're just on the other side.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 10, 2023 09:44 AM (jYCXf)

417 414 Polish general warns that Zelensky has nuclear weapon

Apparently it's no longer just about tanks and fighter jets for Ukraine: According to Polish General Waldemar Skrzyptzak (67), the government in Kiev is said to have nuclear weapons once again. Other experts believe that even if they do not have such a weapon now, they'll have one soon.
Posted by: SMOD at February 10, 2023 09:42 AM (RHGPo)

That doesn't sound possible.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 10, 2023 09:45 AM (eYoxG)

418 Posted by: SMOD at February 10, 2023 09:42 AM (RHGPo)

Biden is very keen on nuclear war, so I am not shocked. War gives them the power to ration, lockdown, and coerce to their hearts' content, and it will never be content

Posted by: CN at February 10, 2023 09:45 AM (Zzbjj)

419 Belarus on Friday condemned as "catastrophic" a decision by Poland to close a border checkpoint between the two countries, saying it could lead to a collapse on both sides of the border. Poland said on Thursday, citing security concerns, it would close a key border crossing into Belarus at Bobrowniki, starting at 12 p.m. (1100 GMT) on Friday, driving already hostile relations between the two countries to a new low.

Posted by: SMOD at February 10, 2023 09:46 AM (RHGPo)

420 416 Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 10, 2023 09:44 AM (jYCXf)

Yeah I'd feel a lot worse about "sides" if "the good guys TM" were not pushing gender transition, glee politics, and the woketard 6000 now with reparations kung-fu grip!

You are allowed to just shrug and find other shit to do as well as joining the left nuts who are slowly learning the deep state sucks.

Posted by: sven at February 10, 2023 09:46 AM (Lzpvj)

421 NATIONAL CREAM CHEESE BROWNIE DAY

Posted by: SMOD at February 10, 2023 09:46 AM (RHGPo)

422 Adidas AG shares trading in Germany crashed after it published its financial guidance for 2023 and warned it's sitting on a 1.2 billion euros ($1.3 billion) pile of unsold Yeezy product.

The German sportswear company said it's 'reviewing' all options for utilizing its Yeezy inventory. It said, "this guidance already accounts for the significant adverse impact from not selling the existing stock."

Operating profit will decline by 500 million euros if the company fails to sell the products and expects sales to decline at a high-single-digit rate this year. The company might write off its remaining products if the inventory isn't repurposed.

Posted by: SMOD at February 10, 2023 09:50 AM (RHGPo)

423 422 Posted by: SMOD at February 10, 2023 09:50 AM (RHGPo)

Give them away in Africa and South America the sea peoples need good footwear to invade the civilized world.

Posted by: sven at February 10, 2023 09:52 AM (Lzpvj)

424
"act of war against the Russian Federation"

Also an act of war against the recipients of the products from pipelines. Which is why nothing will come from this.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at February 10, 2023 10:17 AM (1hM1d)

425 The "complete illogic" of blowing up the Nord Stream pipelines is at best 75% complete. Only 3 of the four pipelines were sabotaged. No wonder no nation is willing to claim such a half-assed operation.

Nord Stream 2 was intended to add capacity to the operational Nord Stream 1. The existing situation had been flow through only two pipelines, not four.

Leaving one of the brand-new Nord Stream 2 pipeline untouched, means Russia could quickly supply half of the previous deliveries. At twice the price, half the flow yields the same current revenues and DOUBLES the future value of the gas reserves still in the ground.

There is also the chance of fooling the NATO allies into internecine squabbles.

Which is more believable, that the U.S Navy divers can't hit one large diameter pipe at their leisure, or that Putin would try a false flag operation?

I think Russia is still a suspect. But Joe "Recto-Cranial Fistula" Biden is one too.

Posted by: Machias Privateer at February 10, 2023 10:33 AM (EMi53)

426 Hersh's story has all the same characteristics of the Trump-Russia stories. cui bono? Somebody who wants Biden out of her way, just like last time.

Posted by: crasey at February 10, 2023 10:50 AM (IKX5a)

427 The key issue with the pipeline is that the German people overwhelmingly wanted a peace deal with Russia to preserve the inflows of gas that the country needed to survive. That option was taken away when the pipeline was blown up.

Now look at the situation with that in mind, and decide who was responsible.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 10, 2023 07:51 AM (lTGtQ)

The French?

Posted by: UncleAl at February 10, 2023 12:13 PM (7FsZ9)

428 Readers who are downplaying Seymour Hersh’s reporting on the USA’s bombing of the Nord Stream pipelines are living in an alternative universe.

The USA is at war with Russia, and its ally, China.

At any time, Russia and China can sabotage American (and Euro) infrastructure, and justify it as retaliation against America’s attacks on their’s (and in the past, other nation’s infrastructure).

Those who think the USA is in a good position to fight a two-pronged war with Russia and China are even more delusional.

Posted by: Dummy #43 at February 10, 2023 12:51 PM (FkMTW)

429 It is amazing to me that there are people who still dispute that America blew up the NS pipelines. None so blind as those that will not see, I guess.

Posted by: Wade Hampton at February 10, 2023 11:54 PM (Su9Le)

430 Jj, you are really making the argument that his reputage is an "admission against interest, ergo, all the more credible. If he were acting as Biden's creature in this matter, Hersh would not have reported on the sabotage of the Nordstream pipeline.

Posted by: Beverly at February 11, 2023 12:39 AM (zbnus)

431 Want to know how I know the Biden Regime bombed the NS pipelines?

Because Gramps and his flak-catcher, the lying John Kirby, deny it.

Because the legacy media deny it.

Because Victoria Nuland denies it.

Remember how they all said the 2020 election wasn't stolen, how Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation, how the Russians stole the 2016 election from the Hildabeast?

Posted by: Wade Hampton at February 11, 2023 04:22 AM (Su9Le)

432 Monkeywerx reported the same thing much earlier and Hersh's stuff echoes that. It was just as implausible then because of what would have had to be done to make the allegations anywhere near plausible.

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Posted by: catnip at February 18, 2023 05:56 PM (8ey81)

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