FBI's Jersey Hustle saved the credibility of the U.S. government

Well, the reputation of the FBI has been taking some big hits lately, culminating this week with the retraction (but no related firings?) of a leaked document targeting traditional Catholics as potential terrorists. Don't comment on old threads even if they're real informative.

So I was interested to see a puff piece on an FBI project whose name I barely remember - ABSCAM - come into my news feed:

In the 1980s, the FBI launched a courageous initiative to combat fraudulent behavior in Congress: The Abscam operation.
Its daring undercover sting featured agents pretending to be wealthy Arab sheiks and businessmen, successfully resulting in numerous indictments of Congress members and other public officials on accounts of bribery.
It's an incredible story that illustrates how determined the FBI was to win back public confidence in our government.
Read on to learn more about one of the most daring and successful sting operations ever attempted--the tale of Abscam.

Wow. Even the Wiki is much better than this.

In March 1978, John F. Good of the FBI's office in suburban Long Island created and oversaw a sting operation called "Abscam", which was initially intended to investigate theft, forgery and stolen art.[6][7][8][9] The FBI employed Melvin Weinberg, a convicted swindler, international con artist and informant, and his girlfriend, Evelyn Knight, to help plan and conduct the operation. They were facing a prison sentence at the time and in exchange for their help, the FBI agreed to let them out on probation.[3] Weinberg, supervised by the FBI, created a fake company called Abdul Enterprises in which FBI employees posed as fictional Arab sheikhs led by owners Kambir Abdul Rahman and Yassir Habib, who had millions of dollars to invest in the United States.[8] Weinberg instructed the FBI to fund a $1 million account with the Chase Manhattan Bank in the name of Abdul Enterprises, giving the company the credibility it needed to further its operation.[2]
When a forger who was under investigation suggested to the sheikhs that they invest in casinos in New Jersey and that licensing could be obtained for a price, the Abscam operation was re-targeted toward political corruption.

It was an audacious plan. According to the first story I found in my news feed, our faith in government should be restored by the FBI's bribery of reckless con artists to entrap corrupt politicans. Still working for you?

A movie, American Hustle, was based on the FBI sting. It's not quite as one-sided as the first story above. Here's an analysis of what was fact and what was not in the movie.

Wonder what happened to the FBI's original plan to go after thieves in the private sector? Was that just dropped?

Oh well, they convicted 6 Democratic congressmen and a senator plus other politicians of the 31 they tried to bribe.

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FBI Promos from Hollywood

Here's a piece on the 32 Best FBI TV Shows.

The 32 BEST? There have been more than 32?

J. Edgar Hoover used to review the original FBI TV show episodes for accuracy, according to this report.

And then there are the movies:

Undercover FBI agent here:

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Past FBI Scandals

There have been a lot of scandals in the FBI's past, but the ones involving forensics keep coming back to me.

Why does the FBI need that massive new building?

This piece from 2009 by John F. Kelley and Phillip K. Wearneis really detailed.

The FBI's vaunted crime lab is a scandal of atrocious forensic science. Its "junk science" permeates the U.S. criminal justice system as it bogus "findings" routinely punish the innocent and set the guilty free, affecting thousands of lives in the process.

From The Atlantic, 2015, latest scandal at that time:

CSI Is a Lie.

FBI press release, 2015:

FBI Testimony on Microscopic Hair Analysis Contained Errors in at Least 90 Percent of Cases in Ongoing Review

Whistleblower hero, Dr. Whitehurst, 2017 report:

When Dr. Frederic Whitehurst initially blew the whistle on the systemic forensic fraud in the FBI crime lab, he could never have known it was the start of a lifelong fight for government accountability.

In 1994, he reported his concerns with FBI lab practices internally.

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Not sure what to think about this report from the Intercept:

BLM organizer distributed guns, urged activists to become more militant and go on the offensive against the police. He was secretly paid by the FBI. The FBI stoked violence among naive young radicals in order to undermine them. https://t.co/AwXE3gLYd4
— Lee Fang (@lhfang) February 8, 2023

A generation after the supposed triumph of classical liberalism at the "end of history," free speech exists nowhere on Earth as a matter of principle. Every single tech mogul's commitment to free speech evaporates when powerful authoritarians demand censorship.
— John Hayward (@Doc_0) February 9, 2023

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Music and Dance

Do the Hustle

Partner style:

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, February 4, Sunset in the West

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:14 AM

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1 The blog was broken too?

Posted by: KT at February 11, 2023 11:18 AM (rrtZS)

2 Broken earlier. Seems OK now.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 11, 2023 11:18 AM (+Wcyp)

3 Is it safe?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2023 11:20 AM (uLr+K)

4 oh, look, no one commented so far, but I did read the contents

just remember, the eff b i is a part of the us gov't and if hadn't been for the usa much of europe would be taking orders from berlin instead from brussels.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 11, 2023 11:20 AM (kFrCu)

5 John Martha. Guilty as Sin. Free As a Bird.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2023 11:21 AM (qnsfO)

6 this just in: keith olbermann is a jerk

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 11, 2023 11:22 AM (kFrCu)

7 Murtha you f'ing autocorrect.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2023 11:22 AM (qnsfO)

8 Is there a list of crimes not implicating the FBI?

Posted by: That Northern skulker at February 11, 2023 11:23 AM (eGTCV)

9 I'm looking at the area where the Air Force shot down that thing over Alaska - East of Prudhoe - and Google Maps shows an unmarked airfield very very close.

Was China trying to spy on an Air Force airfield with some new type of drone?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 11, 2023 11:23 AM (lc5cP)

10 murtha: i believe someone here years ago said murtha was pretty much the only ex marine.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 11, 2023 11:24 AM (kFrCu)

11 re 8: i don't think they had anything to do with trotsky being alpenstocked.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 11, 2023 11:25 AM (kFrCu)

12 The FBI was always a bad idea. Having some to police across state lines is ok, but if you are going to have an organization that investigates federal politicians you need it controlled by the states.

Having fed gov investigate itself is an obvious conflict of interest

Posted by: 18-1 at February 11, 2023 11:25 AM (lc5cP)

13 i wonder how many people are trying to comment and can't get through. seems like a small horde this morning.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 11, 2023 11:26 AM (kFrCu)

14 American Hustle with Amy Adams and Christian Bale.

Did I say Amy Adams? Yeah, she was in that movie.

Posted by: T C at February 11, 2023 11:26 AM (g7nnY)

15 Oh, I better not say anything bad about the FBI. They may have to raid my closets or arrest me for not thinking conservative Catholics are white nationalists.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 11:27 AM (rL+1y)

16 I will not be doing the hustle. But I did have a TastyCake honeybun and some coffee. All, well most, is well so far.

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2023 11:27 AM (1vBNQ)

17 Murtha's Biden-, African dictator-level corruption is well known (and like those it was a family affair). His repugnant irresponsible instincts were on display when he pronounced the Haditha Marines guilty before trial.

But you had to be around him a bit to fully appreciate what a stupid, vile POS he was.

Another monument to the disaster that is the American voter, and the ossification and inertia of the "system".

Had two young NCOs from the Navy ship named after Murtha (!) at the range one day. I asked if they wanted to hear what a POS he was. They laughed and said yes! Their level of disenchantment overall was encouraging. When I asked if they were getting the Khmer Rouge/racist indoctrination and how it was going, they said oh yeah, but everybody just rolls their eyes and ignores it. Which was nice to hear.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 11, 2023 11:28 AM (OTzUX)

18 The FBI did a good job on infiltrating the mob though it was just putting a bandaid on the problem. Except for Vegas. That was taken over by the corporate mob with the help of the FBI.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2023 11:31 AM (qnsfO)

19 Powerful authoritarians demand censorship?

It sure seems like big tech was built from the ground up to censor and are eager to do so over any excuse they can find.

Posted by: Methos at February 11, 2023 11:31 AM (kOpft)

20 The FBI was always a bad idea. Having some to police across state lines is ok, but if you are going to have an organization that investigates federal politicians you need it controlled by the states.

Having fed gov investigate itself is an obvious conflict of interest

Very interesting thought, and it sounds good, but I wonder (no, I really don't) how well it would work in practice. I suspect you'd have every state fighting with every other state to get a piece, and as a result, absolutely nothing would be accomplished. That might be a worthy goal, given what we now know about the FBI.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 11:31 AM (eOEVl)

21 Forgot all about Abscam

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2023 11:31 AM (xhxe8)

22 I can really do a great hustle

Posted by: Dr. Jill Biden at February 11, 2023 11:32 AM (cUwk9)

23 murtha: i believe someone here years ago said murtha was pretty much the only ex marine.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 11, 2023 11:24 AM (kFrCu)

There are three: Murtha, the UT Austin shooter and Oswald.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 11, 2023 11:33 AM (iZPr8)

24 I can really do a great hustle

Posted by: Dr. Jill Biden

Jill, you ignorant slut...

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 11:33 AM (eOEVl)

25 We never gave police powers to the federal government.

Posted by: James Madison at February 11, 2023 11:33 AM (cUwk9)

26 The hustle is a fun dance, and fairly simple for the basics. Great for a lot of more modern music as well.

Posted by: Ronald at February 11, 2023 11:33 AM (wmDcS)

27 Today they would use sting operations to find "the Honest" ones so that they could be eliminated politically, since most of them are corrupt and bribed to their teeth.

Posted by: Ciampino - rows are bustling in the hedges at February 11, 2023 11:34 AM (qfLjt)

28 Do go on, please; don't let me interrupt.

Posted by: FBI Agent assigned to AoSHQ detail at February 11, 2023 11:35 AM (56oEv)

29 Hitler never had any power until he had a national police force loyal to him.

The FBI is loyal to only the Democrat Party. Intensely, openly and brazenly loyal to Democrats.
Not the US.
Not the people.

The Democrat Party and their national police force are the greatest threat America has ever faced.

The Republicans and Democrats just gave the DOJ and the FBI a billion extra dollars-- not to catch criminals or terrorists-- to prosecute innocent Americans for the made-up crime of parading.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 11, 2023 11:35 AM (/6aCr)

30 Anyone see the photo of lightning that struck Christ the Redeemer in Rio de Janeiro yesterday?

It generated some buzz.

https://tinyurl.com/8dffhrvn
*goes to Reddit*

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 11, 2023 11:35 AM (Q4IgG)

31 You probably can't tell, but that's me in the front of the third row of the prison hustle

Posted by: Hunter Biden at February 11, 2023 11:36 AM (cUwk9)

32 The Filipino? prisoners doing Thriller was a classic.

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2023 11:36 AM (1vBNQ)

33 Do go on, please; don't let me interrupt.

Posted by: FBI Agent assigned to AoSHQ detail

Don't you have more pressing things to do, like staking out Catholic churches and PTA meetings?

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 11:36 AM (eOEVl)

34 Test

Posted by: Thesokorus at February 11, 2023 11:36 AM (1ais2)

35 Anyone see the photo of lightning that struck Christ the Redeemer in Rio de Janeiro yesterday?

It generated some buzz.

I mean, how much more obvious can I make my displeasure?

Posted by: God at February 11, 2023 11:37 AM (eOEVl)

36 Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 11, 2023 11:35 AM (Q4IgG)

The strike seems fake . Too wide.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2023 11:37 AM (qnsfO)

37 Senator Fenstermonster and me need diaper changes. Hellloooooo....anyone there?

Posted by: President Biden at February 11, 2023 11:38 AM (x2qWz)

38 I remember ABSCAM. Video of at least one congress critter diving into a pile of cash. Pretty much set my view of politicians as whores a long time ago.

I think they got the goods on the majority that they went after. But this was before DC courts became infested with acolytes of the Deep State.

There was only one dude who reported them as I recall.

The grift has become much more sophisticated these days.

Posted by: pawn at February 11, 2023 11:38 AM (kYVzH)

39 'Maybe we were asked for a favor?' Secret Service accused of a 'cover-up' over its alleged involvement in police probe when Hunter Biden's lover Hallie dropped his handgun in a trash can near a school in 2018
https://mol.im/a/11738609

Posted by: Ciampino - rows are bustling with hedgehogs at February 11, 2023 11:38 AM (qfLjt)

40 Non-noodsters made the list.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 11, 2023 11:39 AM (PyOKD)

41 Did anyone else notice that all those men in the first Hustle video are dressed alike? They must be so embarrassed.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 11:39 AM (eOEVl)

42 I was hoping the lightning strike would've "activated" the Jesus statute, like jump-starting some sort of divinely-powered robot that would start kicking ass and taking names.

Posted by: PabloD at February 11, 2023 11:40 AM (56oEv)

43
Maybe OT this early, but I missed the thread yesterday about the FBI going after Trad Catholics.

This wasn’t a mistake. This was a probe, a raid, a test.

I’m fearful now of what I would have laughed at 20 years ago, but I think in the not-too-distant future, those who take their Judeo-Christian beliefs seriously are going to be put through severe trials.

Most people think the “separation of church and state” means no national religion, no oaths to a particular creed, no clergy funded by the government. The Left thinks the separation of church and state means that religious beliefs can have no place at all in the public sphere. And they don’t believe in any limits to the scope of the state the church is to be separate from.

For them, your silly rites and superstitions may be tolerated as long as they remain private. Otherwise, you’ll have to be complicit in aborting babies, mutilating children, marrying same-sex couples and celebrating deviance. Or else.

If you don't think they won't make you lose your job, take your kids away, bankrupt you and worse, you may be in for a rude shock.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2023 11:40 AM (qWgd0)

44 Oh Joey! Thats "Senator Fenstermonster and I" not "me"! When will you ever learn?!

Posted by: Dr. Jill Biden at February 11, 2023 11:40 AM (x2qWz)

45 Great photo, Martini Farmer.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 11, 2023 11:41 AM (OTzUX)

46 Ok, so what do gas stoves and Catholics have in common?

Posted by: pawn at February 11, 2023 11:41 AM (kYVzH)

47 Best thing ABSCAM uncovered was Rita Jenrette.

Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2023 11:42 AM (AwYPR)

48 I see that the Feebies are searching Mike Not-Worth-A-Bad-Tuppence's place.

So, what's the deal with him, anyway, do you figure? Do they have something on him, or is he just a natural cuck?

I notice that he had a rule against ever being alone with a woman, but no such rule against ever being alone with a man. Or a boy. Hmm...

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2023 11:42 AM (bW8dp)

49 > Best thing ABSCAM uncovered was Rita Jenrette.

Yeah, I pretty much wore those issues of Playboy out (she was in more than one, as I recall). She was tasty.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2023 11:43 AM (bW8dp)

50 'If you don't think they won't make you lose your job, take your kids away, bankrupt you and worse, you may be in for a rude shock.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh"
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Being martyred for the Faith is still on the table.

Posted by: Cosda at February 11, 2023 11:43 AM (CZu/I)

51
"Money talks and bullshit walks" - Rep. Michael "Ozzie" Myers on an ABSCAM tape

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2023 11:43 AM (MoZTd)

52 Hadrian - I had a conversation along those lines not too long ago with another Christian. He's wondering if, within his lifetime, he'll have the sword at his throat while being asked to renounce his faith. I told him that I came into this world screaming and covered in someone else's blood, and I was happy to go out that way if necessary. Push comes to shove, I don't plan on a quiet martyrdom if I can help it.

Posted by: PabloD at February 11, 2023 11:44 AM (56oEv)

53 Anyone see the photo of lightning that struck Christ the Redeemer in Rio de Janeiro yesterday?

It generated some buzz.

===

It's the end of the world as we know it
And I feel fine....

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2023 11:44 AM (V13WU)

54 Well, they do a terrible job tailing me.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at February 11, 2023 11:44 AM (Nf9jl)

55 >>>BLM organizer distributed guns, urged activists to become more militant and go on the offensive against the police. He was secretly paid by the FBI. The FBI stoked violence among naive young radicals in order to undermine them.

Perhaps "Antifa is an idea" is their tacit admission that domestic Antifa is riddled with FBI assets.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 11, 2023 11:44 AM (PyOKD)

56 Ah, I remember those fake Arab sheiks.

Yassir Mabeybee, Yassir Mahunni, Yassir muhragtimedoll!

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 11:44 AM (ykeLU)

57 It is not possible to restore the credibility of the federal government without a 40% headcut.

In other news appears local supermarket bought for bet on 49er super bowl parties and now they're blowing out dungeness crab at 20% of normal retail.

Shellfish better than flowers for my wife...

Posted by: JEM at February 11, 2023 11:45 AM (8erNz)

58 Abolish The FBI.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2023 11:45 AM (R/m4+)

59 I you guys are going to do the Hustle, I'm going to Bump.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 11, 2023 11:45 AM (yQpMk)

60
He was secretly paid by the FBI. The FBI stoked violence among naive young radicals in order to undermine them.

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The FBI: America's Okhrana

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2023 11:45 AM (MoZTd)

61 Oh, and Sheik Mabuti

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 11:45 AM (ykeLU)

62 Everyone is complaining we are targeting Catholics and that is wrong! We are not after Catholics! We are targeting organized religion of all sorts, you silly twits! Trust the government to give you spiritual sustenance.

Posted by: The Junta at February 11, 2023 11:45 AM (x2qWz)

63 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 11, 2023 11:45 AM (T4tVD)

64 Sheik Myhead

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2023 11:46 AM (V13WU)

65 The FBI's vaunted crime lab is a scandal of atrocious forensic science. Its "junk science" permeates the U.S. criminal justice system as it bogus "findings" routinely punish the innocent and set the guilty free, affecting thousands of lives in the process.

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That bit I find very interesting. I have nothing good to say about the FBI as it's currently constructed, constituted and ran. They are political hacks of the worst order and all signs point to them needing disbandment. But I always thought the FBI crime lab was the creme de la creme of forensic testing. Given what I know about them now, I can't say I'm surprised. Still, it's jolting to know how abysmal they have become for just about everything except attacking Democrat adversaries.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 11, 2023 11:46 AM (sVtYq)

66 At this point I am taking the over the top absurd claims about Hoover as indicia of his being one of the few good guys.

Looking at it all, it is all too pat. Too stereotypically contrived.

A mullatto closeted gay tranny ocd voyeur in bed with the Mafia who blackmailed all of DC?

Yeah, ok.

Reads like Seutonius' propagandistic slanders of the Emperors.

Note that Nixon was part of the Hoover Faction and he was a man among men.

And he didn't bug himself 24/7/365. Please.

Posted by: Thesokorus at February 11, 2023 11:46 AM (1ais2)

67 Sheik Mafist

Posted by: runner at February 11, 2023 11:47 AM (V13WU)

68 Remember: you can't spell "dungeness crab" without "dung".

Sorry, just an Alaska joke there. King crabs are the kings. Snow crabs are icy-pure. Dungeness crabs are dung. It is known.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2023 11:47 AM (bW8dp)

69 Trust the government to give you spiritual sustenance.

You might think this is a laughable exaggeration but for some people, it is not.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 11:47 AM (eOEVl)

70 My husband and I have watched episodes here and there of the current FBI programs. They all suffer from the current trend of inserting personal drama instead of concentrating on the "crime" that is supposed to be the point of the program. FBI International is the worst at presenting anything even resembling a realistic picture.

Posted by: Lirio100 at February 11, 2023 11:47 AM (w/VHS)

71 Serial Killer Profiling is total anti-white male bunk. Absolute bs.

Posted by: Thesokorus at February 11, 2023 11:47 AM (1ais2)

72 I don't plan on a quiet martyrdom if I can help it.

Posted by: PabloD at February 11, 2023 11:44 AM (56oEv)

Martyrdom is for the other guy.

- Probably Patton

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 11, 2023 11:47 AM (PyOKD)

73 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2023 11:40 AM (qWgd0)

No; It's not OT at all considering the thread is about the FBI. I agree with you. Persecution is coming. It will be modeled after our "friends" the Chinese. Clergy in the RCC in China are appointed who are regime friendly or else they are imprisoned and persecuted Actually they've been persecuting Christians since the Maoist takeover. And we love China.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 11:48 AM (D+F6R)

74 The part you forgot about this is that John McCain was cock-deep and he got away.

Posted by: JEM at February 11, 2023 11:49 AM (8erNz)

75 41 Did anyone else notice that all those men in the first Hustle video are dressed alike? They must be so embarrassed.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 11:39 AM (eOEVl)
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And orange! So un-chic, so loud.

Posted by: Ciampino -- rows are bustling with hedgehogs at February 11, 2023 11:49 AM (qfLjt)

76 In other news appears local supermarket bought for bet on 49er super bowl parties and now they're blowing out dungeness crab at 20% of normal retail.

Shellfish better than flowers for my wife...

Posted by: JEM at February 11, 2023 11:45 AM (8erNz)

Give her crabs for Valentine's Day.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 11, 2023 11:49 AM (PyOKD)

77 74 The part you forgot about this is that John McCain was cock-deep and he got away.
Posted by: JEM at February 11, 2023 11:49 AM (8erNz)

Yeah. ABSCAM seems to have been directed against DEMs.

Posted by: Thesokorus at February 11, 2023 11:50 AM (1ais2)

78 Persecution is coming.
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Uh...Fen?

Posted by: The Jan 6 political prisoners at February 11, 2023 11:50 AM (x2qWz)

79 The blog was broken too?
Posted by: KT

I was experiencing Hiya withdrawal.

Posted by: JT at February 11, 2023 11:50 AM (T4tVD)

80 Wonder who leaked the targeting of "Catholics as terrorists" document. There needs to be a whole lot more document leaking of that terrible band of scummy bureaucrats.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 11, 2023 11:50 AM (sVtYq)

81 Dungeness is what comes off the boats here.

Now go eat a penguin.

😜

Posted by: JEM at February 11, 2023 11:50 AM (8erNz)

82 I remember when the Hustle came out as a dance thing. My girlfriends and I would practice the steps. I still remember much of it.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 11, 2023 11:51 AM (sVtYq)

83 The part you forgot about this is that John McCain was cock-deep and he got away.
Posted by: JEM at February 11, 2023 11:49 AM (8erNz)

I think you are mixing John McStain and the Keating Five up with the ABSCAM stuff.

John was, is and always will be a criminal, even in death.

And he should have gone to prison but Deep State.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2023 11:52 AM (R/m4+)

84 Been horrible at book reports, but better than 1/4 through The Devil and Karl Mafx and it will put the chill on any Christian what the Communists will do to you if your caught

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2023 11:52 AM (xhxe8)

85 Wonder who leaked the targeting of "Catholics as terrorists" document. There needs to be a whole lot more document leaking of that terrible band of scummy bureaucrats.
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 11, 2023 11:50 AM (sVtYq)

I thought that the FBI was lousy with Irish Catholics. Is that not true anymore?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 11, 2023 11:52 AM (yQpMk)

86 If I find myself on a jury and there is evidence from the FBI I will have to consider that evidence is just a frame up. Then I'll have to decide "do I think non FBI evidence proves guilt? Or should I dismiss all evidence on principle since the FBI is so corrupt?"

Posted by: PaleRider at February 11, 2023 11:53 AM (3cGpq)

87 And apropos of nothing, is lousy still used to mean 'full of'? Or am I showing my age and offending the youth?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 11, 2023 11:53 AM (yQpMk)

88 We don't think dancing the hustle is appropriate in the midst of a State Funeral

Posted by: The McVain family at February 11, 2023 11:54 AM (x2qWz)

89 Give her crabs for Valentine's Day.

Saw that one the other day I do read the content sometimes.

Tempted to make up a placard and go back to the store and surreptitiously stick it on the seafood case...

Posted by: JEM at February 11, 2023 11:54 AM (8erNz)

90 And Watchman Née who wrote a lot of books was an Evangelical Chinese pastor and teacher and he spent a long time in prison before he died in about 1972.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 11:54 AM (D+F6R)

91 SH Sanders last week said something brilliant and pithy:
"The choice is between crazy and normal."

This week here's what she's bragging about:
"THE BIG NEWS in Arkansas this week is the release of Gov. Sarah Sanders’ education plan. Teachers would get significant raises. The minimum wage would be $50K. That’s up from $36K…"

Because paying teachers more improves education or something:
https://tinyurl.com/v6ak77my

Disappointed. Very.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at February 11, 2023 11:55 AM (24fqN)

92 Well. They got the scam part down pat.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 11, 2023 11:55 AM (anj39)

93 Having fed gov investigate itself is an obvious conflict of interest

Having the FBI investigate the mafia seems a conflict of interest.

Posted by: N.Lurker at February 11, 2023 11:55 AM (eGTCV)

94 One rep's defense for taking Abscam cash was that he was conducting his own "investigation". Can't remember who it was.

Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2023 11:55 AM (AwYPR)

95 88 We don't think dancing the hustle is appropriate in the midst of a State Funeral
Posted by: The McVain family

If it were Biden I'd be twerking in bike shorts.

Posted by: JEM at February 11, 2023 11:55 AM (8erNz)

96 The hq hot kinda wonky on me earlier but it all worked out since I'm working.

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2023 11:55 AM (1vBNQ)

97 Perhaps "Antifa is an idea" is their tacit admission that domestic Antifa is riddled with FBI assets.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 11, 2023 11:44 AM (PyOKD)

There was some people with training running around the Mostly Peaceful Summer, that's for sure. It's almost like someone spent some money to inflame protests into riots.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at February 11, 2023 11:56 AM (cupoy)

98 I'm not a lover of crab, but most chefs will tell you there is nothing better than Dungeness crab

Posted by: It's me donna at February 11, 2023 11:56 AM (bs+z0)

99 The best thing about the new FBI building will be the top of the line execution chambers in the basement.

Posted by: Lavrenty Garland at February 11, 2023 11:56 AM (TiuIU)

100 Uh...Fen?
Posted by: The Jan 6 political prisoners at February 11, 2023 11:50 AM (x2qWz)

Uh.....poster? I am aware of that. That was political persecution . I was talking specifically about persecution for being a conservative Christian.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 11:57 AM (D+F6R)

101 I eat crab it someone else picks it. To much work for too little return.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 11, 2023 11:57 AM (yQpMk)

102 Sheik Al Eg

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 11:57 AM (ykeLU)

103 Oh, I better not say anything bad about the FBI. They may have to raid my closets or arrest me for not thinking conservative Catholics are white nationalists.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 11:27 AM (rL+1y)

I have a decoy underwear drawer, in case of feeb raid. Those aren't the ones I wear.

Suckers!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 11, 2023 11:58 AM (Mzdiz)

104 Very informative post. Was enjoying reading it, as I had forgotten details of Abscam. Then post was sullied with disco. Now I am off my feed.

Posted by: Mod Rocker at February 11, 2023 11:58 AM (wrJpE)

105 Sheik Enbeyk

(And I helped!)

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 11:58 AM (ykeLU)

106 I thought that the FBI was lousy with Irish Catholics. Is that not true anymore?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 11, 2023 11:52 AM (yQpMk)

Boston office....lots of Mormons throughout.

Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2023 11:58 AM (AwYPR)

107 The Boston FBI was always good to me.

Posted by: zombie Whitey Bulger at February 11, 2023 12:01 PM (CZu/I)

108 Oh, mustn't forget the Arab fitness guru...

...Sheikh W'eyt

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 12:01 PM (ykeLU)

109 Disappointed. Very.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at February 11, 2023 11:55 AM (24fqN)

Put your faith neither in men nor milfs.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 11, 2023 12:02 PM (PyOKD)

110 Anyone see the photo of lightning that struck Christ the Redeemer in Rio de Janeiro yesterday?

It generated some buzz.

*goes to Reddit*

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 11, 2023 11:35 AM (Q4IgG)

Is this about me?

Posted by: Commie Pope at February 11, 2023 12:02 PM (Mzdiz)

111 Those brave ABSACM FBI agents put themselves in serous danger to preserve democracy. Fortunately at the end of the day they were able to go home to their families. (getting dusty in here)

Posted by: Ripley at February 11, 2023 12:02 PM (cUYo/)

112 98 I'm not a lover of crab, but most chefs will tell you there is nothing better than Dungeness crab
Posted by: It's me donna at February 11, 2023 11:56 AM (bs+z0)

*spit*

Posted by: Texas Blue at February 11, 2023 12:03 PM (us2H3)

113 Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 11, 2023 11:58 AM (Mzdiz)

LOL, Miley.

Posted by: Tom Doniphon at February 11, 2023 12:03 PM (D+F6R)

114 > I'm not a lover of crab, but most chefs will tell you there is nothing better than Dungeness crab

Sure thing. That's why Dungeness sells for $25/lb and King sells for $70/lb. Because Dungeness is better.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2023 12:03 PM (bW8dp)

115 The Democrat Party and their national police force are the greatest threat America has ever faced.

The Republicans and Democrats just gave the DOJ and the FBI a billion extra dollars-- not to catch criminals or terrorists-- to prosecute innocent Americans for the made-up crime of parading.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 11, 2023 11:35 AM (/6aCr)

It is time to accept that any Republican who continues to fund the FBI is as much an enemy as the Left or al-Qaeda, the latter at least having some contorted sense of morality. The United States could either have liberty or maintain the FBI and has chose the latter. When the country finally disintegrates after years of fragmentation, this will be one of the primary reasons.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 11, 2023 12:03 PM (KSNKu)

116 101 I eat crab it someone else picks it. To much work for too little return.
Posted by: G'rump928

My attitude on sea bugs in general.

My wife can clean off five crayfish before I can even figure out how to start. She drops a couple on my plate in sympathy.

She is disgusted with how much meat I leave in when peeling a shrimp.

And crab...I'll crack and eat the legs then she takes it and picks the brain out.

Posted by: JEM at February 11, 2023 12:03 PM (8erNz)

117 This week here's what she's bragging about:
"THE BIG NEWS in Arkansas this week is the release of Gov. Sarah Sanders’ education plan. Teachers would get significant raises. The minimum wage would be $50K. That’s up from $36K…"

Because paying teachers more improves education or something:
https://tinyurl.com/v6ak77my

Disappointed. Very.

I'm okay with a raise for teachers, with one proviso: give up the iron clad job security. I'd fire the low performers, say the bottom 25%, and give the rest a raise.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 12:04 PM (eOEVl)

118 and on the subject of the Irish, my potatoes are loving this rain and cold. I finally, after several years of meaning to, got my seed potatoes in the ground at the end of January as we are supposed to do down here.

I'm expecting bumper crop.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 11, 2023 12:04 PM (yQpMk)

119 Sorry; "The Man who shot Libert Valance" character sock off

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 12:04 PM (D+F6R)

120 I was hoping the lightning strike would've "activated" the Jesus statute, like jump-starting some sort of divinely-powered robot that would start kicking ass and taking names.

Posted by: PabloD at February 11, 2023 11:40 AM (56oEv)

We're on our way!

Posted by: Ghostbusters at February 11, 2023 12:04 PM (Mzdiz)

121 > I eat crab it someone else picks it. To much work for too little return.

Another reason to prefer Kings.

https://tinyurl.com/2p9duc46

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2023 12:04 PM (bW8dp)

122 Blue crab from the Chesapeake are very tasty, I'd put them equal to Dungeness for taste. Dungeness crab are huge compared to the blue crab.
We used to cook Dungeness at home, spread newspapers all over the table, along with cracking devices, small hammers, picks, some melted butter with garlic.
Haven't had any Dungeness in years now.
(Plural of crab = crab unless describing more than one species, I think...)

Posted by: gourmand du jour, gimpy edition at February 11, 2023 12:05 PM (jTmQV)

123 Sheik Enbeyk

That one made me work a little. The "eyk" is not a common phoneme in English.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 11, 2023 12:05 PM (nfrXX)

124 Sure thing. That's why Dungeness sells for $25/lb and King sells for $70/lb. Because Dungeness is better.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2023 12:03 PM (bW8dp)

It's the marketing of those hardy sailors pulling up their pots in the stormy Alaskan waters the we see all the time.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 11, 2023 12:05 PM (yQpMk)

125 Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2023 12:03 PM (bW8dp)

Crab wars have begun... LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at February 11, 2023 12:06 PM (bs+z0)

126 well, my wife is from Baltimore and every time I went there, we had to eat steamed crabs

not much ROE

funniest time is when MIL asked where they got there crabs

his response "Texas"

she almost heaved her dentures

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2023 12:06 PM (us2H3)

127 I'll fry up soft shells but yeah not picking crabs unless 4 beers in. I enjoy steaming them in Yeungling or Natty Bo though

Posted by: Thesokorus at February 11, 2023 12:06 PM (1ais2)

128 > Crab wars have begun... LOL

My crab stable is rested and ready!

Posted by: Commie Lay Harris at February 11, 2023 12:07 PM (bW8dp)

129 "The FBI was always a bad idea. Having some to police across state lines is ok, but if you are going to have an organization that investigates federal politicians you need it controlled by the states."

You think the states can be trusted to control all those barroom drunks planning to kidnap our public servants? Not likely. We need the professionals at the FBI to put an end this menace.

Posted by: Ripley at February 11, 2023 12:07 PM (cUYo/)

130 First time I encountered snow crabs it was all you can eat, picture a carload of 15 year old redneck football players with $8 in their pockets invading that place.

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2023 12:08 PM (1vBNQ)

131 I remember the Great Kerosene Flood of aught four. My entire family was swept away.

Posted by: Logger Crab at February 11, 2023 12:08 PM (yQpMk)

132 Sure thing. That's why Dungeness sells for $25/lb and King sells for $70/lb. Because Dungeness is better

Dungeness at $3/lb here right now.

I'll settle for that.

Posted by: JEM at February 11, 2023 12:08 PM (8erNz)

133 "Crab wars have begun... LOL
Posted by: It's me donna"
**********
You eat crab. You get crabs.

Posted by: Cosda at February 11, 2023 12:09 PM (CZu/I)

134 don't mock the crab

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2023 12:09 PM (us2H3)

135 King Crabs always remind me of Alien Facehuggers.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 11, 2023 12:09 PM (yQpMk)

136 "Feb. 10 '45. Mission was to the city of Euskirchen. We were briefed to wipe out the northern half of the city and we did just that - boy was it beautiful. Flak - moderate accurate. 2 holes. Mission #32. Duration 3:10."

(log notes of B-26 pilot from 394th Bomb Group in ETO)

Posted by: Trying to provoke Muldoon at February 11, 2023 12:10 PM (OTzUX)

137 >>> 100 Uh...Fen?
Posted by: The Jan 6 political prisoners at February 11, 2023 11:50 AM (x2qWz)

Uh.....poster? I am aware of that. That was political persecution . I was talking specifically about persecution for being a conservative Christian.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 11:57 AM (D+F6R)

The distinction I would make is that the Jan 6 BS at least has some 'action' the leftards can point to, no matter how flimsy the justification for charges of OMG INSURRECTION REE!!! vs prosecution for *beliefs* which is obviously the wet dream of all the commie scum.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 11, 2023 12:10 PM (llON8)

138 Wouldn't mind a face hug from TULSI.

Posted by: Thesokorus at February 11, 2023 12:11 PM (1ais2)

139 Now I want crabs. And bacon too.

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2023 12:13 PM (1vBNQ)

140 Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 11, 2023 11:58 AM (Mzdiz)

LOL, Miley.

Posted by: Tom Doniphon at February 11, 2023 12:03 PM (D+F6R)

The funny thing is, I'm not kidding.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 11, 2023 12:13 PM (Mzdiz)

141 Do go on, please; don't let me interrupt.

Posted by: FBI Agent assigned to AoSHQ detail

Don't you have more pressing things to do, like staking out Catholic churches and PTA meetings?
Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 11:36 AM (eOEVl)

I prefer those Lutheran people with their Jello thingies with the little bits of fruit!! Scrumpdiddlieishish!!!

Posted by: FBI Agent assigned to AoSHQ detail at February 11, 2023 12:13 PM (Zvtjl)

142 Missed the last thread so will mention this here:

If you take lisinopril, make sure they monitor kidney function! They mentioned it can damage your kidneys after my husband had been taking it three years. And they never checked his kidney function.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 11, 2023 12:13 PM (4IUUf)

143 The "World Health Organization" (lol!) has a new report claiming that NO amount of alcohol is safe.

There you have it, folks: not only will we eat bugs, we won't even be allowed any Victory Gin to wash them down.

Communists are always intent on sucking all the joy out of life. That's because they're such horrible, useless, and envious people.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2023 12:13 PM (bW8dp)

144 >>> i wonder how many people are trying to comment and can't get through. seems like a small horde this morning.

>Last couple of days, the comments have been jacked up in Firefox. It's hit or miss. I changed to Edge, seems to be working fine, consistent.

No problems on any other site.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 11, 2023 12:14 PM (Jg7EG)

145 Trust the government to give you spiritual sustenance.
Posted by: The Junta at February 11, 2023 11:45 AM (x2qWz)

Two nights ago, I dreamed that some government entity was administering the Lord's Supper/Eucharist/Communion. They served cake in place of the wafers. They were taking over religious observances. This was not good.

Posted by: Emmie at February 11, 2023 12:16 PM (Emce2)

146 "Communists are always intent on sucking all the joy out of life. That's because they're such horrible, useless, and envious people."
*********
If we are going to be forced to live like 20th century Russian peasants there at least needs to be vodka.

Posted by: Cosda at February 11, 2023 12:16 PM (CZu/I)

147 The FBI stoked violence among naive young radicals in order to undermine them.

Undermine... yes, that's the ticket

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2023 12:17 PM (0hOvj)

148 >>> 143 The "World Health Organization" (lol!) has a new report claiming that NO amount of alcohol is safe.

There you have it, folks: not only will we eat bugs, we won't even be allowed any Victory Gin to wash them down.

Communists are always intent on sucking all the joy out of life. That's because they're such horrible, useless, and envious people.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2023 12:13 PM (bW8dp)

That's... impressive. Even the Russian commies weren't so stupid as to ban vodka.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 11, 2023 12:17 PM (llON8)

149 The "World Health Organization" (lol!) has a new report claiming that NO amount of alcohol is safe.

There you have it, folks: not only will we eat bugs, we won't even be allowed any Victory Gin to wash them down.

Communists are always intent on sucking all the joy out of life. That's because they're such horrible, useless, and envious people.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2023 12:13 PM (bW8dp)

"This Is the Last Damn Run of Likker I'll Ever Make"

https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v= glQjCKAI4gA&t=9s

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 11, 2023 12:18 PM (Mzdiz)

150 Communists are always intent on sucking all the joy out of life.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2023 12:13 PM (bW8dp)

I've noticed that too. "Somebody, somewhere, is enjoying something. They must be stopped!"

Posted by: Emmie at February 11, 2023 12:19 PM (Emce2)

151 Good afternoon everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 11, 2023 12:19 PM (qoGsy)

152 Ivermectin over 75% effective in stopping COVID even 5 days after exposure.

Healthcare has destroyed itself with TDS.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 11, 2023 12:19 PM (BRHaw)

153 >>> 145 Trust the government to give you spiritual sustenance.
Posted by: The Junta at February 11, 2023 11:45 AM (x2qWz)

Two nights ago, I dreamed that some government entity was administering the Lord's Supper/Eucharist/Communion. They served cake in place of the wafers. They were taking over religious observances. This was not good.
Posted by: Emmie at February 11, 2023 12:16 PM (Emce2)

1) This would not shock me... whatever happened to that stupid bint Houston mayor who demanded to review *all* churches' sermons before they were given?
2) That Milton guy *still* wouldn't get any cake, but then most people wouldn't, because commies

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 11, 2023 12:19 PM (llON8)

154 Posted by: FBI Agent assigned to AoSHQ detail at February 11, 2023 12:13 PM (Zvtjl)

Then time your raid when they have a church luncheon. You can't expect jello and fruit every week.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 12:19 PM (D+F6R)

155 But the FBI missed Joey during ABSCAM.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 11, 2023 12:19 PM (J1liw)

156 (log notes of B-26 pilot from 394th Bomb Group in ETO)

This is presumably the Baltimore Whore variety, no visible means of support, and not the Douglas A-26 variety that got renamed once the Martins were dispensed after '45.

It's amazing how much hardware got rationalized out of existence after '45. Pretty much all the medium bombers, the entire misbegotten tank destroyer operation, light and escort carriers...it was a good time to be in the scrap metal biz.

Posted by: JEM at February 11, 2023 12:20 PM (8erNz)

157 Two nights ago, I dreamed that some government entity was administering the Lord's Supper/Eucharist/Communion. They served cake in place of the wafers. They were taking over religious observances. This was not good.

Posted by: Emmie at February 11, 2023 12:16 PM (Emce2)

I dreamed that Perry Mason had me arrested at a wedding. Della just rolled her eyes and said, "You know how he is."

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 11, 2023 12:20 PM (Mzdiz)

158 Two nights ago, I dreamed that some government entity was administering the Lord's Supper/Eucharist/Communion. They served cake in place of the wafers. They were taking over religious observances. This was not good.

You should have known it was only a dream. The government would never give you cake, they'd give you sawdust-based hardtack.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 12:21 PM (eOEVl)

159 Rodrigo Borgia, They can have my Wild Turkey 101 when they pry it from my cold dead hand.

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2023 12:21 PM (1vBNQ)

160 John Martha. Guilty as Sin. Free As a Bird.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

The Navy even named a ship after that pos. My son served on it.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 11, 2023 12:21 PM (qoGsy)

161 "Communists are always intent on sucking all the joy out of life. That's because they're such horrible, useless, and envious people."
*********
If we are going to be forced to live like 20th century Russian peasants there at least needs to be vodka.

Posted by: Cosda at February 11, 2023 12:16 PM (CZu/I)

My face colander times side-hustle will be distilling grain alcohol.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 11, 2023 12:21 PM (PyOKD)

162 I remember ABSCAM well because Philly politicos were busted and Ozzie Myers delivered his famous tagline.

And I also remember doing the partner style hustle, except we added something akin to salsa moves and it became the Latin Hustle.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2023 12:21 PM (dCxaZ)

163 Even the Bible notes that alcohol is good for you in small, temperate doses. I don't personally like it but I don't think its innately evil or something.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2023 12:21 PM (0hOvj)

164 Posted by: Trying to provoke Muldoon

*******

With KT's forbearance, I'll put up a couple things. This week in 1944 at Anzio was eventful.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 12:21 PM (ykeLU)

165 The government would never give you cake, they'd give you sawdust-based hardtack.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 12:21 PM (eOEVl)

Acheta-based.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 11, 2023 12:22 PM (Mzdiz)

166 150 -- Communists are always intent on sucking all the joy out of life.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 11, 2023 12:13 PM (bW8dp)

Also, God pours His blessings upon us in abundance and Commies are always looking for ways to stem the flow.

Posted by: Emmie at February 11, 2023 12:22 PM (Emce2)

167 It's amazing how much hardware got rationalized out of existence after '45. Pretty much all the medium bombers, the entire misbegotten tank destroyer operation, light and escort carriers...it was a good time to be in the scrap metal biz.

Posted by: JEM at February 11, 2023 12:20 PM (8erNz)

An escort carrier would make for a good Horde party barge/pirate ship.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 11, 2023 12:23 PM (PyOKD)

168 It's amazing how much hardware got rationalized out of existence after '45. Pretty much all the medium bombers, the entire misbegotten tank destroyer operation, light and escort carriers...it was a good time to be in the scrap metal biz.
Posted by: JEM

It always made me sad to think of all the armor, planes, ships, etc. that were brand-new/never used to have their status altered to "to be scrapped' overnight.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 11, 2023 12:24 PM (qoGsy)

169 They served cake in place of the wafers.

It wouldn't matter if a government entity was serving cake instead of wafers, because the wafers never were the True Presence.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2023 12:24 PM (dCxaZ)

170 An escort carrier would make for a good Horde party barge/pirate ship.
Posted by: Comrade flounder

Aboard the good ship Venus...

Posted by: JEM at February 11, 2023 12:25 PM (8erNz)

171 I dreamed that Perry Mason had me arrested at a wedding. Della just rolled her eyes and said, "You know how he is."
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 11, 2023 12:20 PM (Mzdiz)

I hope it wasn't your wedding!

Posted by: Emmie at February 11, 2023 12:25 PM (Emce2)

172 Then time your raid when they have a church luncheon. You can't expect jello and fruit every week.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 12:19 PM (D+F6R)

Oh, man.

Posted by: FBI Agent assigned to AoSHQ detail at February 11, 2023 12:25 PM (Zvtjl)

173 CVE like Gambier Bay used a Skinner Uniflow engine because all the better engines went to more important ships.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 11, 2023 12:26 PM (J1liw)

174 Got my new pellet smoker today, and am in the process of assembly. Brisket is incoming.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 12:26 PM (eOEVl)

175 Got my new pellet smoker today, and am in the process of assembly. Brisket is incoming.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 12:26 PM (eOEVl)

Yum. Reading that pegged my saturated fat and cholesterol numbers.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 11, 2023 12:27 PM (PyOKD)

176 Takeaway from the puff piece - gotta go back 40 years to find anything worthwhile done by the FBI.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2023 12:27 PM (D/Z0O)

177 It wouldn't matter if a government entity was serving cake instead of wafers, because the wafers never were the True Presence.
Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2023 12:24 PM (dCxaZ)

The point is that they commandeered religious observance.

Posted by: Emmie at February 11, 2023 12:28 PM (Emce2)

178 The initial Anzio landings took place on Jan 21 and were largely unopposed by the Germans. After several days consolidating a shallow beachhead of about 2-3 miles deep and some 8-10 miles wide, the Allies launched a thrust inland from the beach, toward an areea known as "The Factory". This thrust proceeded along a narrow salient, 6-7 miles deep, but on a stalk only about 1-2 miles wide. By the end of January this thrust had stalled and the Germans launched a counterattack on Feb 1, hoping to pinch off the base of the salient and kill or capture Allied troops within the salient. As the Allies were pushed back on Feb 1-2 this posed a threat to the success of the entire invasion, and reinforcements were being rushed up from Naples. Over the first two weeks of Feb there was a lot of back and forth action near "The Factory".

My dad's unit got orders on Feb 4 to move to Anzio and by Feb 6 advance teams were landed at Nettuno, Dad among them. The next few days marked the peak of the German counterattack, as his unit was just getting up and going. This is the context of this week's diary excerpts covering Feb 8=10.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 12:28 PM (ykeLU)

179 An escort carrier would make for a good Horde party barge/pirate ship.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 11, 2023 12:23 PM (PyOKD)
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Plus, it has a nice open space for hustle practice

Posted by: Lieutenant Hunter Biden, USN at February 11, 2023 12:28 PM (jxtl0)

180

Welp, starting the weekend with an embarreling. My apologies, all.

Posted by: Emmie at February 11, 2023 12:29 PM (Emce2)

181 i have a question that has great theological significance.

Do Roman Catholics ever have coffee hour coffee and donuts after Mass, or there would just be too many people to feed?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 12:29 PM (D+F6R)

182 In Europe we paid Germans to scrap P-51 Mustangs. In the Philippines we bulldozed brand new P-38s. On Biak Island they used bulldozers to break the backs of 1,000 B-24 Liberators.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 11, 2023 12:29 PM (J1liw)

183 Got my new pellet smoker today, and am in the process of assembly. Brisket is incoming.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 12:26 PM (eOEVl)

Do you do a 'dry run' first...to cook off any paint/oil?

Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2023 12:29 PM (AwYPR)

184 The point is that they commandeered religious observance.

this has occurred all through history since Christ first handed over the Keys to St. Peter. Catholics have repeatedly had to go underground, even in the United States during the early years.

This is nothing new.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2023 12:29 PM (dCxaZ)

185 ToneyPete, I'm in awe of the amount of small arms we produced. We could never do that today. What am I saying?

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2023 12:29 PM (z3WCn)

186 Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 12:28 PM (ykeLU)
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Amazingly, I was just this minute wondering about this date in your fathers journal and here you are with the answer!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 11, 2023 12:30 PM (jxtl0)

187 i have a question that has great theological significance. Do Roman Catholics ever have coffee hour coffee and donuts after Mass, or there would just be too many people to feed?

No, they're too busy planning to overthrow the government.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 12:30 PM (eOEVl)

188 Do you do a 'dry run' first...to cook off any paint/oil?

I plan to for that very reason.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 12:31 PM (eOEVl)

189 Do Roman Catholics ever have coffee hour coffee and donuts after Mass, or there would just be too many people to feed?

yes I can only speak for my parish, there's a social every three months, they serve coffee and donuts after each service.

Then there's all the different dinners, suppers, breakfasts, etc but they aren't free and open to anyone in the community

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2023 12:31 PM (dCxaZ)

190 Oh, Emmie!

*tosses a hazmat suit*

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 11, 2023 12:31 PM (Mzdiz)

191 i have a question that has great theological significance. Do Roman Catholics ever have coffee hour coffee and donuts after Mass, or there would just be too many people to feed?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Normally yes - a real problem. But, the parish only needs two pots of coffee and seven donuts and it all works out.

Glory be!!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 11, 2023 12:31 PM (qoGsy)

192 Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 12:30 PM (eOEVl)

LOL. Don't they need a good jolt of caffeine to do that?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 12:32 PM (D+F6R)

193 someone throw Emmie a line, get her out of the barrel

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2023 12:32 PM (0hOvj)

194 I hope it wasn't your wedding!

Posted by: Emmie at February 11, 2023 12:25 PM (Emce2)

Well, I don't think so, but I was involved somehow, fussing with flowers and candles. It was a night wedding in a private home, I think. Small and quite beautiful.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 11, 2023 12:32 PM (Mzdiz)

195 >>Now I want crabs. And bacon too.
Posted by: Eromero

Give me a call!

Posted by: Amy Schumer at February 11, 2023 12:32 PM (HQ9Sl)

196 Welp, starting the weekend with an embarreling. My apologies, all.
Posted by: Emmie

********

Looks like the close tags in my nick inadvertently corrected things. I'd like to grant you a reprieve and unconditional release from the barrel. No ongoing harm done! And it's the weekend.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 12:33 PM (ykeLU)

197 "No, they're too busy planning to overthrow the government.
Posted by: Archimedes"

***********
It's not like there isn't precedent for that.

Posted by: zombie Cardinal Richelieu at February 11, 2023 12:33 PM (CZu/I)

198 Somehow I got invited to a faculty party in college and this great old prof was 3 sheets and started telling me about how I should deal with women based on my physiognomy and then out of the blue he said "the big guys like you died right away at Anzio/Casino(?). Little bastards like me made it." Then he went back to the female advice.

Posted by: Thesokorus at February 11, 2023 12:33 PM (1ais2)

199 No, they're too busy planning to overthrow the government.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 12:30 PM (eOEVl)

Yes I think our pastor has a target on his back because someone snitched on his "AGW is a Cult" sermon. He's right this moment in the process of distributing copies of his Anti-"Climate Change" sermons to those of like mind, so the message will never be silenced.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2023 12:33 PM (dCxaZ)

200 Girl Scout cookies have arrived. I tried to veto this purchase but was voted down, because wife's buddy is grandmother to said Scout and also a very effective chief saleslady.

What the hell am I going to do with all those terrible Thin Mints?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at February 11, 2023 12:35 PM (GzARA)

201 Catholics have repeatedly had to go underground, even in the United States during the early years.

This is nothing new.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2023 12:29 PM (dCxaZ)

And me without a priest hole!

(thanks to the Horde, I now see the "phrasing" applications of that term)

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 11, 2023 12:35 PM (Mzdiz)

202 Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2023 12:33 PM (dCxaZ)

Thats great that's he making copies of his sermon.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 12:35 PM (D+F6R)

203 From EZ Dog diary - Feb 1944

Feb 8.
Wakened up early with shells dropping into area. One within 100 yds of tent we were sleeping in. Looks like we really hit a “hot-spot”. Btry came up today.
Landed about 1230. They spent the night in staging area near Anzio. Wind came up and rain poured. Brigade SOP [standard operating procedure].

This hot spot was due to saturation bombing of the rear areas by combined artillery and Luftwaffe in support of the German counteroffensive.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 12:35 PM (ykeLU)

204 seriously, yesterday someone wrote a pretty good post about why the NWO/FIBS got their sights located on the RC Traditionalists. They have big families that they homeschool and therefore are violating two fundamental doctrines of NWO religion...they eschew contraception and they opted out of government "seminaries" AKA the public school system.

IOW they really are hotbeds of insurgency.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2023 12:36 PM (dCxaZ)

205 Anyone remember the movie "Save the Tiger", with Jack Lemmon. It's mostly forgettable mid-70s gloom, but there's a flashback scene to all his buddies who died at Anzio.

Amazing to think that movie was made only 29 years after Anzio, so that generation was still in its prime.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 12:37 PM (eOEVl)

206 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 12:35 PM (D+F6R)

My comment was tongue-in-cheek. He's not preparing to get busted, but who knows, maybe he will be. I was just so happy to hear his diatribe against the Global Warming Cult because it's kind of hard to tell with him, if he is a squish or not. His verbal attack on one of NWO religion's primary doctrines proved that he's a Culture Warrior.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2023 12:38 PM (dCxaZ)

207 Never saw Save the Tiger

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2023 12:39 PM (xhxe8)

208 Do Roman Catholics ever have coffee hour coffee and donuts after Mass, or there would just be too many people to feed?

yes I can only speak for my parish, there's a social every three months, they serve coffee and donuts after each service.

Then there's all the different dinners, suppers, breakfasts, etc but they aren't free and open to anyone in the community

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2023 12:31 PM (dCxaZ)

When I was a teenager, the parish was split into two. The old church didn't have enough room. I always thought it was a bummer to go to church in a building that wasn't at all church-like, and didn't have all those dark corners and dirty mosaics (I used to fantasize about cleaning the statues and all, instead of listening to the priest).

Anyhoo, the new place had coffee and donuts every Sunday. so there was that. Maybe 2-3 dozen people would show up.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 11, 2023 12:40 PM (Mzdiz)

209 Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2023 12:33 PM (dCxaZ)

How did he know he was snitched on. Did the FBI actually visit him or someone who wasn't there heard about the sermon and complained to the pastor?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 12:40 PM (D+F6R)

210 and the 9th

Feb 9
Btry started moving to new area. No shelling. Spent all day with Evans digging a “house” to sleep in. Quite a fancy affair. About 3 ft deep, log roof with rushes and dirt, a fireplace. Moved in for the night and really appreciated it when the flak started falling.

Eventually VI Corps HQ dug an elaborate system of underground tunnels and bunkers as they settled in for the stalemate phase of Anzio, known as the "Sitzkrieg"

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 12:40 PM (ykeLU)

211 Looks like the close tags in my nick inadvertently corrected things. I'd like to grant you a reprieve and unconditional release from the barrel. No ongoing harm done! And it's the weekend.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 12:33 PM (ykeLU)

What a gracious thing to do! Thank ye kindly!

Posted by: Emmie at February 11, 2023 12:40 PM (Emce2)

212 Hello day walkers! Now to see if I can read everything and catch up to live comments.

Posted by: CA Token at February 11, 2023 12:41 PM (2+yws)

213 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 12:40 PM (D+F6R)

Thanks, Kallisto. I got your answer above.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 12:41 PM (D+F6R)

214 and finally for today:

Feb 10.
General Meyer left on hospital ship for Naples. Arthritis. Brig temporarily changed to a Group. Evans and I left for TD with VI Corps Arty. Paul in S-3. YT in CB. Not too practical a setup. Everything underground in caves - even sleeping quarters.

Brig = brigade
TD = temporary duty assignment
S-3 = operations and mission planning section
YT = presumably somebody's initials
CB = counterbattery section

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 12:42 PM (ykeLU)

215
i have a question that has great theological significance. Do Roman Catholics ever have coffee hour coffee and donuts after Mass, or there would just be too many people to feed?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 12:29 PM (D+F6R)

There's often coffee and donuts set up on a table after Mass at my parish.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2023 12:42 PM (MoZTd)

216 Thesokorus, Pappy Eromero was 6-3 170 when he went ashore on D-Day with the 29th Inf Div. One of 3 survivors in his landing craft the first ten minutes. He lasted til 22 June at Saint Lo, when he nearly got gutted by a piece of shrapnel big as my thumbnail. He probably would have liked to be shorter.

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2023 12:43 PM (z3WCn)

217 I always wondered by General Meyer's arthritis was bad enough to get him off the beachhead.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 12:43 PM (ykeLU)

218 (I used to fantasize about cleaning the statues and all, instead of listening to the priest).

omg I can't believe the statues were dirty.! It must not have been an Italian parish. Ours always had a contingent of old ladies who managed and worked the cleaning detail. Nothing escaped their critical and sometimes OCD gaze.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2023 12:43 PM (dCxaZ)

219
When is the FBI "Sting" to entrap and arrest corrupt LEOs?

Oh, right, they have to work with those people so... omerta.
Good thing J. Edgar himself told us that there was no Mafia.

Posted by: Speller at February 11, 2023 12:44 PM (pSotA)

220 ToneyPete, I'm in awe of the amount of small arms we produced. We could never do that today. What am I saying?
Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2023 12:29 PM (z3WCn)

Sure we could. It might take more time than to get restarted than WWII be we can still out-manufacture everyone in this world.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 11, 2023 12:44 PM (BdMk6)

221 https://inchhighguy.wordpress.com/women warriors 206
https://tinyurl.com/ywzj34un

From another member at TMP, lots of cuties in uniform

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2023 12:44 PM (xhxe8)

222 Thanks, Miley and Christopher, for the hazmat suit and the line. Close call! Rescued by Muldoon!

Posted by: Emmie at February 11, 2023 12:44 PM (Emce2)

223 Hitler never had any power until he had a national police force loyal to him.

The FBI is loyal to only the Democrat Party. Intensely, openly and brazenly loyal to Democrats.
Not the US.
Not the people.

The Democrat Party and their national police force are the greatest threat America has ever faced.

The Republicans and Democrats just gave the DOJ and the FBI a billion extra dollars-- not to catch criminals or terrorists-- to prosecute innocent Americans for the made-up crime of parading.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 11, 2023 11:35 AM (/6aCr)

THIS. And THIS and THIS. You nailed it PHV.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at February 11, 2023 12:45 PM (kWIJe)

224 Things went wacky here a few hours ago. Just seeing if it got fixed. Something something java script.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 11, 2023 12:45 PM (lz5hY)

225 My dad was in the Korean war era, but thankfully did not have to go fight.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2023 12:45 PM (0hOvj)

226 West Coast Swing > Hustle

CHANGE MY MIND

https://youtu.be/QiB-xYd9PSo

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 11, 2023 12:45 PM (Qzn2/)

227
I'm looking at the area where the Air Force shot down that thing over Alaska - East of Prudhoe - and Google Maps shows an unmarked airfield very very close.

Ice Station Zebra

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 11, 2023 12:46 PM (63Dwl)

228 Trivent, a mutual fund aimed at Lutherans had a radio commercial with "coffee and cookies in the church basement after services, etc"

That was so true for the Lutheran church when I was a teenager. So that is the Lutheran split I guess, cookies instead of donuts.

Posted by: PaleRider at February 11, 2023 12:46 PM (3cGpq)

229 Never forget Special Agent Richard Trask. He's the actual face of the ham-and-eggin' 99% of nonpolitical Top Men in the field, fighting for our freedom by setting up phony kidnappings, getting jacked on roids, going to cuck parties, and beating their wives half to death.

A Model American.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 11, 2023 12:48 PM (oINRc)

230 BTW, I'm not one to defend McCain, but he wasn't involved in ABSCAM. He wasn't even in Congress when it went down.

He was in another scandal (Keating Five) a decade later. So right recollection, wrong scandal.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at February 11, 2023 12:49 PM (fTtFy)

231 BTW, I'm not one to defend McCain, but he wasn't involved in ABSCAM. He wasn't even in Congress when it went down.

He was in another scandal (Keating Five) a decade later. So right recollection, wrong scandal.

This is supposed to be an 'appy occasion. Let's not bicker and argue about 'oo scammed 'oo.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 11, 2023 12:51 PM (eOEVl)

232 So, we know the FBI wants riots. I guess they're trying to pave the way for martial law?

Posted by: Emmie at February 11, 2023 12:51 PM (Emce2)

233 99 The best thing about the new FBI building will be the top of the line execution chambers in the basement.
Posted by: Lavrenty Garland at February 11, 2023 11:56 AM (TiuIU

Modeled after the ones in the Lubyanka?

Posted by: Fox2! at February 11, 2023 12:51 PM (qyH+l)

234 Artillery has been the most killer in wars probably since the Napoleonic era

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2023 12:52 PM (xhxe8)

235 The FBI stoked violence among naive young radicals in order to undermine them. (I believe they did this to empower them)

Posted by: McDizzle at February 11, 2023 12:53 PM (uJvFh)

236 Woohoo. Eggs under $4. Well, $3.99 today. The chickens got the contract ratified.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 11, 2023 12:54 PM (lz5hY)

237 Thanks Muldoon !

Posted by: JT at February 11, 2023 12:54 PM (T4tVD)

238 My last month check was for 11000 dollars... Everything I did was basic online work from comfort at home for 3-4 hours/day that I got from this office I found over the web and they paid me for it 95 bucks each hour... Attempt it yourself....

AND GOOD LUCK.

HERE====)>www.jobsrevenue.com

Posted by: Arthur Herrmann at February 11, 2023 12:54 PM (JDWa+)

239 YT = presumably somebody's initials

Yours truly. (I.e., the author)

Posted by: Fox2! at February 11, 2023 12:56 PM (qyH+l)

240 232: Well they provoked Antifa BLM to riot in DENVER. That was probably for training and cover for the state commiecrats to pander to them. "They are so passionate about this they rioted"

No examples in today's roundup, of the times the FBI provoked tiny 'right wing radical groups' to violence as an excuse to arrest them.

Posted by: PaleRider at February 11, 2023 12:56 PM (3cGpq)

241 So, we know the FBI wants riots. I guess they're trying to pave the way for martial law?
Posted by: Emmie at February 11, 2023 12:51 PM (Emce2)

What do you think the Wuflu debacle was? It was martial law dressed in a white lab coat. Next time all pretense will be dropped and the LEO and military units move in.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at February 11, 2023 12:56 PM (BdMk6)

242 Arthur Herrmann is such a stand-up guy that he's taken time away from his ultra-lucrative home internet gig to encourage others to share in his good fortune.

Nice.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 11, 2023 12:57 PM (Qzn2/)

243 Even the Bible notes that alcohol is good for you in small, temperate doses. I don't personally like it but I don't think its innately evil or something.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2023 12:21 PM (0hOvj)

Jesus' first miracle was the wedding at Cana where he transformed water into wine. The best wine according to the steward who complimented the groom for saving his best for last.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at February 11, 2023 12:58 PM (kWIJe)

244 The flaming horse's ass unindicted co-conspirator of ABSCAM was John Murtha (D-PA), guilty as sin and re-elected 19 more times. He has an airport and a Navy ship named after him.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 11, 2023 12:58 PM (jYCXf)

245
234 "Artillery has been the most killer in wars probably since the Napoleonic era"

Lindybeige would disagree.
https://tinyurl.com/55wa5efm

Posted by: Speller at February 11, 2023 12:59 PM (pSotA)

246 241: Disagree. IMO its more likely they'll come up with another health scare but ramp the response up to Aussie level 'quarantine camps' rather than be direct about what they are doing.

Posted by: PaleRider at February 11, 2023 12:59 PM (3cGpq)

247 Jesus' first miracle was the wedding at Cana where he transformed water into wine. The best wine according to the steward who complimented the groom for saving his best for last.

Hmm. I wonder how many wine stewards were running around in first century Galilee?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 11, 2023 01:00 PM (Qzn2/)

248 The FBI stoked violence among BLM and antifa to undermine them?

Pull the other one.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2023 01:00 PM (pwExq)

249 Arthur Herrmann is such a stand-up guy
Posted by: Cicero

********

There are 10 Arthur Herrmanns listed on LinkedIn. Maybe he is a committee of clones. That could explain why he makes so much dough.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 01:02 PM (ykeLU)

250 Hmm. I wonder how many wine stewards were running around in first century Galilee?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 11, 2023 01:00 PM (Qzn2/)

If you are rich and famous enough to get Jesus himself to attend your wedding, you can probably afford a wine steward.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2023 01:02 PM (pwExq)

251 If you are rich and famous enough to get Jesus himself to attend your wedding, you can probably afford a wine steward.
Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2023 01:02 PM (pwExq)

Good point. I wouldn't be surprised if folks with that kind of scratch hired Keith Richards to play at the reception.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 11, 2023 01:04 PM (Qzn2/)

252 Jesus' first miracle was the wedding at Cana where he transformed water into wine. The best wine according to the steward who complimented the groom for saving his best for last.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above!

I've got the solution to that Jesus was a refugee problem. Anybody who can walk on water then turn it into wine gets in.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 11, 2023 01:04 PM (FVME7)

253 LOL Blaster.

Posted by: PaleRider at February 11, 2023 01:04 PM (3cGpq)

254 Hmm. I wonder how many wine stewards were running around in first century Galilee?

********

Surely you are familiar with the parable of the Good Sommeliertarian?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 01:05 PM (ykeLU)

255 247250 Heh. Anytime I hear wine steward, I think of the comic strip Shoe. Instead of a corkscrew on a chain around his neck, the steward wears a pair of pliers. Subtle humor.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 11, 2023 01:06 PM (lz5hY)

256 "...and when the Sommeliertarian channced upon thee man laying by the side of the road, badly beaten, he tended to his wounds and revived him with a light, recent vintage Reisling from the Ronne region..."

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 01:06 PM (ykeLU)

257 i have a question that has great theological significance. Do Roman Catholics ever have coffee hour coffee and donuts after Mass, or there would just be too many people to feed?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

I've lived in a lot of cities and gone to many parishes in each (if the priest is too liberal we change parishes).

It's hit or miss, some have coffee and pastries every week others have them on designated weekends.
Lots of lunches and dinners to support parishioners be it quilters, bereaved, or teen retreats.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 11, 2023 01:06 PM (70LVe)

258 Stone Crab is what costs the most at restaurants. Worth it.

Posted by: polynikes at February 11, 2023 01:06 PM (qnsfO)

259 Surely you are familiar with the parable of the Good Sommeliertarian?
Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 01:05 PM (ykeLU)

*sad trombone*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at February 11, 2023 01:07 PM (Qzn2/)

260 Rhone

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 01:07 PM (ykeLU)

261 Its

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2023 01:07 PM (r46W7)

262 Keep in mind that Jesus only performed that conversion because his mom asked him nicely.
He knew it was going to start things up with the publican and tax collector crowd.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 11, 2023 01:08 PM (jYCXf)

263 It seems AI did not yet get the memo on what is considered a beautiful woman by woke mob standards.

https://tinyurl.com/37dn95f4

Posted by: Fool Otto at February 11, 2023 01:08 PM (DB16e)

264 It's easy to forget that before the 20th century it was generally far more healthy to drink wine and beer than to drink water, which was mostly contaminated.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2023 01:08 PM (r46W7)

265 Even the Bible notes that alcohol is good for you in small, temperate doses. I don't personally like it but I don't think its innately evil or something.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2023 12:21 PM (0hOvj)

Refraining from alcohol in Christianity derives directly from John the Baptist.

Posted by: polynikes at February 11, 2023 01:09 PM (qnsfO)

266 Its
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2023 01:07 PM (r46W7)

Monty Python's Flying Circus!!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wanting to Hang Out with Tom Bombadil at February 11, 2023 01:09 PM (UQUAY)

267 The best wine according to the steward who complimented the groom for saving his best for last.
Posted by: Chairborne

Actually the wine steward chided him saying something like -most serve the best wine first and a lesser vintage when the guests have consumed enough that they can't tell the difference. You have saved the best for last.
(obviously not a bible quote!)

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 11, 2023 01:09 PM (70LVe)

268 Hmm. I wonder how many wine stewards were running around in first century Galilee?

Apparently at least one. It's one of the Rosary meditations I pray when saying the Rosary. And now you've sicced the Eff Bee Eye on me for being one of those radical Catholics. Thanks a lot.

Heh.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at February 11, 2023 01:09 PM (kWIJe)

269 Speller working on it, I love historical discussions videos

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2023 01:09 PM (xhxe8)

270 No examples in today's roundup, of the times the FBI provoked tiny 'right wing radical groups' to violence as an excuse to arrest them.
Posted by: PaleRider at February 11, 2023 12:56 PM (3cGpq)

We had Feds at the Stop the Steal rally at the capitol in Denver. One guy tried to get us to walk over to the Dominion offices (and do what, exactly?) and another was busy taking pictures of people's faces. We didn't take the bait.

Posted by: Emmie at February 11, 2023 01:10 PM (Emce2)

271 I wonder if wine back in the Lord's time was more like Jail House Hooch.

So Jesus just busted out some 2 Buck Chuck and folks were very happy.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2023 01:11 PM (R/m4+)

272 Lol Pug I thought of that when it happened!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2023 01:11 PM (r46W7)

273 omg I can't believe the statues were dirty.! It must not have been an Italian parish. Ours always had a contingent of old ladies who managed and worked the cleaning detail. Nothing escaped their critical and sometimes OCD gaze.

Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2023 12:43 PM (dCxaZ)

This was old style mini-cathedral. No old ladies would be able to reach that high. Dozens of filthy marble statues and curlicues and whatnot. I tried to figure out how you would do it. I would get dizzy that high on a ladder.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 11, 2023 01:11 PM (Mzdiz)

274 Refraining from alcohol in Christianity derives directly from John the Baptist.

I ain't eating locusts.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2023 01:11 PM (0hOvj)

275 >>>Erica Smith & Daniel McGhee

That is so cool!

Posted by: m at February 11, 2023 01:12 PM (CQE5S)

276 "Donny Brasco" is a decent FBI vs. mob movie. It portrays the FBI brass as mostly sniveling bureaucrats, more concerned with agent's grooming standards that catching bad guys.

Johnny Depp, before he went completely around the bend, as an undercover FBI agent and Al Pacino as a low-ranking mafia dirtball.

Joe Bob says "Check it out".

Posted by: a.moron at February 11, 2023 01:13 PM (F6Xpw)

277 We had Feds at the Stop the Steal rally at the capitol in Denver. One guy tried to get us to walk over to the Dominion offices (and do what, exactly?) and another was busy taking pictures of people's faces.

Yeah that's how they used to treat organized crime. The FBI has only one playbook and they run it on anyone that the state considers an enemy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2023 01:13 PM (0hOvj)

278 Oh, and we really didn't have many Italians. Lots of French Canadians.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 11, 2023 01:13 PM (Mzdiz)

279 209 Posted by: kallisto at February 11, 2023 12:33 PM (dCxaZ)

How did he know he was snitched on. Did the FBI actually visit him or someone who wasn't there heard about the sermon and complained to the pastor?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 12:40 PM (D+F6R)
----
That happened to our guy after his sermon on homosexuality. Someone complained and two FIBs came and interviewed him, looked at the sermon and that was that. I consider that arrogant.

Posted by: Ciampino --- rows are bustling with hedgehogs at February 11, 2023 01:13 PM (qfLjt)

280 Refraining from alcohol in Christianity derives directly from John the Baptist.

I ain't eating locusts.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Agreed!
I don't take diet advice from someone that lives on honey and locusts!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 11, 2023 01:14 PM (70LVe)

281 Posted by: a.moron at February 11, 2023 01:13 PM (F6Xpw

No one in that movie came out looking good except Brasco.

Posted by: polynikes at February 11, 2023 01:14 PM (qnsfO)

282 "Donny Brasco" is a decent FBI vs. mob movie. It portrays the FBI brass as mostly sniveling bureaucrats, more concerned with agent's grooming standards that catching bad guys.

Yeah its a good movie, much better than The Departed. I dunno what happened to Scorcese, but that film was a mess.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 11, 2023 01:15 PM (0hOvj)

283 Fetterman funny via Citizen Free Press

https://tinyurl.com/3tj78rc3

I LOL'd.

Posted by: Fool Otto at February 11, 2023 01:15 PM (DB16e)

284 Nood KT gardening.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 11, 2023 01:16 PM (70LVe)

285 I'm slacking watching a video

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2023 01:17 PM (xhxe8)

286 If the FBI can't find criminals they will invent, enable or incite them.

This follows from the "if you ask a barber his opinion he's going to say you need a haircut" school of justifying your existence.

From firsthand knowledge I can say that this same mindset permeates the mindset of mid-career physicians. Whether it is lopping off healthy body parts, ordering expensive tests, or advocating ever more frequent "screening" tests at ever younger ages, it pays the bills and keeps you employed. Not much incentive to wait two years for a check-up when you can get paid for doing it in one.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2023 01:20 PM (ykeLU)

287 "Artillery has been the most killer in wars probably since the Napoleonic era"

Lindybeige would disagree.
https://tinyurl.com/55wa5efm
Posted by: Speller

In his book The Kaiser's Battle (about the famous 3/21/18 German offensive to end the war before the US could make its presence felt), Martin Middlebrook appends General Georg Bruchmuller's prepatory artillery bombardment plan. The trend had been toward lengthy, massive bombardments, for example, for a full week before the Somme. Bruchmuller went with a brief, very intense bombardment. He began with high explosives, then used an irritant hoping to get the Brits to remove their gas masks, and finally poison gas.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 11, 2023 01:21 PM (FVME7)

288 Wait the media told me that Fetterman was perfectly fine and to say otherwise was a racist right wing conspiracy theory.

Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2023 01:23 PM (pwExq)

289 FBI guns to thugs for cop killing sounds much like
ATF guns to cartels program.

Interagency planning.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 11, 2023 01:24 PM (m7AC0)

290 263 It seems AI did not yet get the memo on what is considered a beautiful woman by woke mob standards.

https://tinyurl.com/37dn95f4

Posted by: Fool Otto at February 11, 2023 01:08 PM (DB16e)
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On the other hand, AI learning models analyze algorithms for wrinkles, face symmetry, skin color, gender, age group, and ethnicity, to determine who’s “beautiful.”

We are discussing the beauty of women here ao we know what sex by default. (I won't use 'gender')

Posted by: Ciampino - they are all biologists at February 11, 2023 01:25 PM (qfLjt)

291 osted by: Ciampino --- rows are bustling with hedgehogs at February 11, 2023 01:13 PM (qfLjt)

Wow; That's terrible. Did anything else come of it? He wasn't arrested or anything, was he?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 01:28 PM (D+F6R)

292 Crisis over.

Sen. John Fetterman released from hospital after doctors rule out new stroke, office says

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Not a Real Simulation at February 11, 2023 01:34 PM (FVME7)

293 Fettermonster better gret his next Covid booster soon, don't want him to get Covid

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2023 01:36 PM (xhxe8)

294 The FBI was always a bad idea. Having some to police across state lines is ok, but if you are going to have an organization that investigates federal politicians you need it controlled by the states.

Having fed gov investigate itself is an obvious conflict of interest
Posted by: 18-1 at February 11, 2023 11:25 AM (lc5cP)

Back when the FBI was founded, state and local law enforcement was very fragmented, and there was little cross-agency communication. Those days are long-gone, and every state and metropolitan area has a crime lab now.

I've been saying for over a decade that the FEEBs have lost track of their LE mission. It's an organization that needs to be disbanded.

NO ONE in the FBI was ever publicly held responsible for the fvq-up that resulted in the tip on the FL school shooter (Cruz?) being ignored.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 11, 2023 01:37 PM (pJWtt)

295 A sting = entrapment, IMO.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 11, 2023 01:40 PM (Xrfse)

296 Came in at the last of every thread yesterday
looks like it's going to be same today.
Going to go work on my taxes.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 11, 2023 01:40 PM (m7AC0)

297 Bertram beat me to it. Well not really. Yesterday when I was doing my cigar burn video call with a friend, he told me about the newest balloon caper, told me it came down on the pack ice, and I said "Ice Station Panda!".

Posted by: rhomboid at February 11, 2023 01:42 PM (OTzUX)

298 Ice Station Zebra = great everyday Cold War thriller.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 11, 2023 01:42 PM (OTzUX)

299 Surely they took photos of the object? Maybe someone could identify it? Could be someone's science fair project?

Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2023 01:44 PM (AwYPR)

300 Retired Buckeye, an excellent point I used to make (about the very unusual tip they received on the Parkland nutcase).

And of course the long local story behind it, all of which made it possible, is even worse.

The idiocy and incompetence of Obama's DOJ, the county's school system, and ultimately its law enforcement of course, on the scene.

Almost nobody knows any of this, of course, as is there is no press and there's not much of a citizenry to read a real press any longer, it seems. The mega-scandal that is everything *except* the GUNS! OH MY GAWD GUNS!! takes it place along side the nearly constant debacles that would have not long ago been turning points.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 11, 2023 01:46 PM (OTzUX)

301 87k new IRS agents. Huh

Doubling the size of the FIB HQ. Hmm

Yeah mass arrests are definitely not coming.

Posted by: The Pilgrims at February 11, 2023 01:53 PM (vUNbA)

302 So, is the blog functional now?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 11, 2023 01:53 PM (zZu0s)

303 299 Surely they took photos of the object? Maybe someone could identify it? Could be someone's science fair project?
Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2023 01:44 PM (AwYPR)

Hey, the kid who made the suitcase clock might still be around- and not a kid any more.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 11, 2023 01:54 PM (zZu0s)

304 So, is the blog functional now?

Seems to be. Pixy appears to have rectified the DNS issue.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 11, 2023 01:56 PM (Xrfse)

305 the kid who made the suitcase clock

He was pure genius.

Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at February 11, 2023 01:57 PM (Xrfse)

306 305 the kid who made the suitcase clock

He was pure genius.
Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at February 11, 2023 01:57 PM (Xrfse)

Yeah, he would have fit right in in Real Genius.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 11, 2023 01:58 PM (zZu0s)

307 Calling dibs on top bunk at the Gulag Vacation home

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2023 01:58 PM (xhxe8)

308 The thing to remember about ABSCAM is the FBI didn't set out to catch congressmen. The politicians that showed up heard, though the grape vine, there were Arabs handing out cash and showed up on their own initiative to wet their beaks. That's why they couldn't use entrapment as a defense.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 11, 2023 02:01 PM (wGeit)

309 308 The thing to remember about ABSCAM is the FBI didn't set out to catch congressmen. The politicians that showed up heard, though the grape vine, there were Arabs handing out cash and showed up on their own initiative to wet their beaks. That's why they couldn't use entrapment as a defense.
Posted by: Ace's liver at February 11, 2023 02:01 PM (wGeit)

Fine upstanding public servants.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 11, 2023 02:04 PM (zZu0s)

310 That's why they couldn't use entrapment as a defense.

Thanks for that but I guess that the million dollar question would be who got the grapevine up and running? To be clear, I'm not defending those crooks in any way.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 11, 2023 02:07 PM (Xrfse)

311 12 The FBI was always a bad idea. Having some to police across state lines is ok, but if you are going to have an organization that investigates federal politicians you need it controlled by the states.

Having fed gov investigate itself is an obvious conflict of interest
Posted by: 18-1 at February 11, 2023 11:25 AM (lc5cP)

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I’d go a bit further and say any Federal official must be paid by the state government in which they work. Federal officials that work in DC are paid by the states prorated on the basis of the states’ population. Representatives and Senators are paid directly by the states they represent.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 11, 2023 02:12 PM (cMXNt)

312 Another monument to the disaster that is the American voter, and the ossification and inertia of the "system".

Posted by: rhomboid at February 11, 2023 11:28 AM (OTzUX)

Based your experience, what systemic changes do you recommend to make a republic more robust?

My opinion is that direct taxation of citizens is the fruit of many sins.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 11, 2023 02:15 PM (cMXNt)

313 I’d go a bit further and say any Federal official must be paid by the state government in which they work. Federal officials that work in DC are paid by the states prorated on the basis of the states’ population. Representatives and Senators are paid directly by the states they represent.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 11, 2023 02:12 PM (cMXNt)

This is probably not a bad way to go because you could also have the local field offices for these bureaus appointed by the state government and elected leadership.

The biggest problem with a bureaucracy is when they are an unaccountable, unelected bureaucracy wielding enormous power. It is not just the obvious stuff like the corruption and subversion by a single political entity we are seeing now, it is also the shoddiness of work like what someone mentioned with the crime labs and so forth. There is no pressure to do better or do the job well when you are completely unaccountable to anyone.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 11, 2023 02:16 PM (zZu0s)

314 Maybe have the agents appointed by a specific state not serve in that state and on a yearly basis the guys get rotated to a new state so they do not develop 'connections' (hint: corruption) with those states.

That was part of the intent for a similar reform Sulla tried to make of the system there. However, the Roman model of patronage kind of lent itself systemically to corruption as we would think of it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 11, 2023 02:19 PM (zZu0s)

315 In honor Emmie earlier, what close tags should be added to our nics? I have b and i, but I'm sure there are others.

Posted by: jayhawkone at February 11, 2023 02:23 PM (73uPm)

316 315 In honor Emmie earlier, what close tags should be added to our nics? I have b and i, but I'm sure there are others.
Posted by: jayhawkone at February 11, 2023 02:23 PM (73uPm)

There should be one for strikethrough as well as ones for super and sub script. I do not truck with the dark magic of formatting though, so I do not know those ways.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 11, 2023 02:29 PM (zZu0s)

317 From recent reading it seems local police and sheriff can get on FBI payroll on their cases.

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2023 02:45 PM (xhxe8)

318
Fucking cocksucking Murtha only refused the bribe because it was too small.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 11, 2023 03:03 PM (n+4am)

319 Thank you for the close tag advice.

Posted by: jayhawkone at February 11, 2023 03:45 PM (73uPm)

320 Representative Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL) blasted The Washington Post during an appearance on FNC’s “Jesse Watters Primetime” on Friday for a profile containing errors for which the Post has since had to issue corrections.

According to Luna, the piece included mischaracterizations and errors, including questioning her Hispanic heritage and voting record as a Republican.

Luna told FNC’s Will Cain that the Post was “incredibly racist.”

Posted by: RTC at February 11, 2023 05:18 PM (RovqD)

321 does anybody still think that cesar sayoc actually built and sent all those fake pipe bombs to all those prominent democrats in the lead up to the 2018 midterm elections

Posted by: sound awake at February 11, 2023 05:45 PM (g7ym/)

322 i have a question that has great theological significance. Do Roman Catholics ever have coffee hour coffee and donuts after Mass, or there would just be too many people to feed?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2023 12:29 PM (D+F6R)

Ours did I think in the big room in the attached school. We didn't usually go since it would be to hard to corral the six of us herself. We stopped for doughnuts on the way home and fed little bits of glazed donuts to one of our cats who liked it.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 11, 2023 05:53 PM (eoQWY)

323 This was old style mini-cathedral. No old ladies would be able to reach that high. Dozens of filthy marble statues and curlicues and whatnot. I tried to figure out how you would do it. I would get dizzy that high on a ladder.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at February 11, 2023 01:11 PM (Mzdiz)

Probably a crane with a pulley with a bosun's chair on it to hoist you to a good spot. You loop something around the statue and get to work. You are just sitting in a chair, so less need for keeping balance on the ladder, its like sitting in a swing-set with a seatbelt.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 11, 2023 05:59 PM (eoQWY)

324 Fen. Once/month coffee and donuts. Once/month breakfast casseroles and assorted beverages. We have a Valentine's breakfast tomorrow morning sponsored by the Altar Society. Very common in all sizes of congregations. We are a small church.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at February 11, 2023 06:04 PM (2NHgQ)

325 In honor Emmie earlier, what close tags should be added to our nics? I have b and i, but I'm sure there are others.
Posted by: jayhawkone

b, i, s, and u for bold, italic, strikethrough, and underline.

None of the other usual php-board tags work on AoSHQ, to keep the trolls under control. You can't even type the three letters "img" in a row without cheating in a way that makes it not work as an image tag.

Posted by: mikeski at February 11, 2023 06:45 PM (P1f+c)

326 Іnformatіve article, just what I wɑnted to
find.

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