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Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Jan. 21

Red Flowering Gum.jpg

It's summer here in Oz, the street trees are in bloom, and here's proof.

The attached picture, taken in a street near home, is of an Australian Red Flowering Gum (Eucalyptus ficifolia).

Note that it is NOT an Australian Red Gum (Eucalyptus camaldulensis). They have red gum and white flowers - obviously.

These are so typically West Australian, but we won't comment on the IQ of the idiot who decided that they should be planted IN the roadway.

Though this isn't strictly gardening related, I thought you might be able to use it.

Regards,

Sendarius

Great to see a report from Oz! Especially when there aren't a lot of gardening activities going on in the USA and Canada. Or even blooming plants. At least outdoors!

The Red Flowering Gum is also grown here in California, where it is known for drought resistance, salt tolerance, ornamental seed capsules and attractiveness to hummingbirds.


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Here are some other trees which attract hummingbirds. Nice information. Crab apples are first on the list. They are a lot hardier than red-flowering gums.


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There is apparently an attempt to breed red-flowering gums to survive in Dublin, Ireland. And the botanists seem to have changed the name.

There are birds that feed on the blossoms in Australia, too. Like the Little Wattlebird.

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There are some winter-blooming eucalyptus that also attract birds. If you decide to plant one, look into soil requirements, flammability, climate requirements and eventual size. And insect susceptibility. A big eucalyptus tree fell on a freeway near here in the recent storms and killed one person in a pickup and another on a motorcycle. The ground was saturated and the wind came up.

Tree choice (and planting location) is important.

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Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

A while ago, Ronster asked "What makes cucumbers bitter"?

Well, here is the scientific answer.

A tip:

Start peeling at the blossom end of the fruit. Slice away one strip of the green peel toward the stem end and stop about one inch from the stem. Then wash off the knife blade and repeat peeling from blossom to stem end until the fruit is peeled. Rinse the knife again and cut up the cucumber as needed.

Bitterness seems to vary with the type of cucumber grown. But you can expect some degree of bitterness from time to time in most any variety of cucumber commonly grown, Myers said.

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If you are ordering seeds, I still like Summer Dance for our climate. Grown on a trellis, with regular water. But look for a "bitter-free" type if you want less bitterness. And check for climate adaptation in the description of the variety.


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We have a few grafting enthusiasts in The Horde. Any plans?


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Less common forms of grafting

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Ah, Nature

Ice Bubble Magic


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Gardens of The Horde

Don in Kansas has some interesting information if you are ordering flowers for next summer:


Possibly of interest to gardeners with an interest in metafictional anime: There exists a "Princess Tutu" daylily.

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It's a frilly one.

Hope everyone has a nice weekend.


If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden at g mail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.


Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Jan. 14

Any thoughts or questions?

I closed the comments on this post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 01:16 PM




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1 Good afternoon Greenthumbs

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2023 01:17 PM (xhxe8)

2 dang

thought I'd beat Skip this time

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2023 01:19 PM (dCxaZ)

3 Afternoon everyone

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 21, 2023 01:21 PM (8C7+r)

4 I watched the ice bubble video first.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 21, 2023 01:22 PM (8C7+r)

5 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 21, 2023 01:23 PM (T4tVD)

6 I like the blossoms on the eucalyptus. Some specimens have pink blossoms.

Do the leaves look like fig leaves to you?

Posted by: KT at January 21, 2023 01:24 PM (rrtZS)

7 Got some early daffodils blooming...carlton?

Posted by: BignJames at January 21, 2023 01:25 PM (AwYPR)

8 My brother is making raised beds for us. He found some old windows (and I mean old, with ropes still attached and chunks of putty falling out) to make a cold frame. Anyone have experience with this?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at January 21, 2023 01:27 PM (Mzdiz)

9 Doggie story is cute, not pet thread but nice to see after being around so many unwanted pets lately

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2023 01:31 PM (xhxe8)

10 Still trying to figure out how to get a bunch of dead pines down, they slowly are doing it themselves.

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2023 01:33 PM (xhxe8)

11 Saw a smallish brown raptor (I assume a hawk) sitting on a lpw branch of a neighbor's tree the other day.
I didn't have my phone, so no photo

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 21, 2023 01:39 PM (BtmcP)

12 I read the hummingbird article...glad to see I've an attractor tree in my backyard, Eastern Redbud. I love that tree, and now have another reason to enjoy it. I never knew to look for hummingbirds around it. This coming spring I'll have to keep an eye out.

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2023 01:39 PM (dCxaZ)

13 Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 21, 2023 01:39 PM (BtmcP)

they love this time of year. No leaf cover, so easy pickins!

Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2023 01:40 PM (dCxaZ)

14 Foggy, grey and 38 here in the Emerald City.

The gardener came by a couple weeks ago and hard pruned everything. I think he may have taken out a hummingbird nest as I haven't seen them around much since. Makes me sad. I love to see the little territorial bastards chatter at each other and dive bomb and defend the feeder on the corner of my neighbor's townhome. They are amazing fliers.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 21, 2023 01:40 PM (U2p+3)

15 Good article on trees attractive to hummingbirds. One not on the list: peach trees. My peach attracts a lot of attention from the neighborhood hummingbirds.

As for cold frames, yes, I have experience with that. My cold frame has three old storm windows on it; these are aluminum-framed and are just lying flat on the frame. I also once had a cold frame with an old wooden storm window. The frame was oriented E-W, with the high side along the north, for maximum exposure to the sun. I repaired and painted the window, then used old hinges to attach it to the south (low) end of the frame. On bright, sunny days in the spring, I'd prop it open, so the seedlings wouldn't be baked. I also used two-liter soda bottles filled with water for passive solar: with the storm window lowered onto the frame, the water kept the seedlings from freezing at night. It worked out really well, until one day a heavy windstorm caught the storm window, flipped it over, and shattered the glass. So you may want to add a latch on the north side, to prevent that from happening. Good luck!

Posted by: Nemo at January 21, 2023 01:48 PM (S6ArX)

16 >>> 14 Foggy, grey and 38 here in the Emerald City.

The gardener came by a couple weeks ago and hard pruned everything. I think he may have taken out a hummingbird nest as I haven't seen them around much since. Makes me sad. I love to see the little territorial bastards chatter at each other and dive bomb and defend the feeder on the corner of my neighbor's townhome. They are amazing fliers.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 21, 2023 01:40 PM (U2p+3)

They tend to keep coming to feeders they know of year after year. Were they not around last summer though?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 21, 2023 01:48 PM (llON8)

17 I love those trees.

I know nothing about grafting. I have wanted to graft a different grape to some of the chardonnay grapes. I want to graft either a nebbiolo or barbera. No one drinks the chard and I end up giving a lot away.
I can get cuttings from friends. There is a guy that does it for the wineries. I've been talking about it for years and it's one of those things that I miss the window/the grafting guy is too busy. Maybe this year.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 21, 2023 01:51 PM (9mPbX)

18 Trying to make chinese beef noodle souo based on 3 diff recipes and what I have in pantry

Inflicting my experiment on the family is fun

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 21, 2023 01:54 PM (BtmcP)

19 I did my winter pruning on my apple trees this week, mostly clearing out the centers to allow me to "toss my hat through each tree" and spot the branches I want to graft some wood onto.

I have a King apple that suffers from codling moth, so I am grafting some varieties onto it, the most recent for this year is a lovely red winter apple that is angular, but stays good on the trees until December. It is off an ancient old tree by an old farmhouse. I have summer apples but no red winter apple trees . . . Yet.

I am also grafting some more Ribston, which is a very old apple variety, but was a commercial apple locally in the 20's

Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2023 01:55 PM (xhaym)

20 8 My brother is making raised beds for us. He found some old windows (and I mean old, with ropes still attached and chunks of putty falling out) to make a cold frame. Anyone have experience with this?
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at January 21, 2023 01:27 PM (Mzdiz)


Nope, but have an made old-timey storm window from scratch.

That's a lot of frame and I am thinking you'd end up with two or more sashes per cold frame and I am assuming the re-used windows will be the hinged opening component.

Those will be heavy to lift and you likely don't want to make a complete panel out of multiple windows. So some thought to how to seal in between each window is needed. I'd prolly go simple: Tee molding brad nailed to the left of each "seam", meaning you open then left-to-right and close then right-to-left.

You could reduce weight by ditching the glass and replacing it with acrylic, too. It's just the outside frame of the sashes will use 4 time or more wood than you need, so heavier.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 21, 2023 01:56 PM (8C7+r)

21 I became a great fan of hummingbirds while sitting in my old Polish landlady's back yard. She was an avid gardener, always flowers, never edibles (she had enough of that stuff as a Third Reich guest tending the cabbages and potatoes). I could sit out there and watch the little devils for hours or a six pack. On trips to AZ, there's a Mom and Pop motel I frequent that usually has many hummingbirds doing their thing around the flora lining the sidewalks in front of the rooms. Again, the six pack.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 21, 2023 01:57 PM (lz5hY)

22 Sidebar: "I'll be commenting all this week as Lamont, because I'm a Big Dummy. Yes of course. I'm such an idiot."

I missed whatever happened here, but LOL.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 21, 2023 01:59 PM (YwvLg)

23 the IQ of the idiot who decided that they should be planted IN the roadway

I know I'm That Guy, but I'd do this on purpose if I could just to mess with everyone.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at January 21, 2023 02:01 PM (YwvLg)

24 Keep the skins of cukes thin by giving them adequate, regular water. If the plant dries out, the skins thicken to keep the moisture in.

Posted by: Flyover at January 21, 2023 02:02 PM (Rbu5d)

25 they love this time of year. No leaf cover, so easy pickins!
Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2023 01:40 PM (dCxaZ)

We always have big ass black birds hanging around.
I assumed they were crows, but they're so big I am.wondering if they are ravens.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 21, 2023 02:03 PM (BtmcP)

26 Thanks, KT! I like how you combined dogs and vegetables for this thread!
I am going to be planting some tomato seeds in peat pots this week. These seeds came from the heirloom tomatoes we grew last year. I hope they do okay but if not I will have time to order some seeds.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at January 21, 2023 02:04 PM (Vf4Y7)

27 They are amazing fliers.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 21, 2023 01:40 PM (U2p+3)

I was camping in the Taylor River Valley in Colorado with my son a few years ago. We saw and heard hummingbirds all around us, but they would disappear as soon as I picked up my camera. Every damn time. Li'l bastages.

I see a lot of chickadees here in the winter. Hardy little birds.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at January 21, 2023 02:07 PM (UQUAY)

28 Thanks for cold frame tips! Although we'll have to keep the glass. Acrylic is pricy! Appreciate the tip about 2 liter bottles.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at January 21, 2023 02:09 PM (Mzdiz)

29 We always have big ass black birds hanging around.
I assumed they were crows, but they're so big I am.wondering if they are ravens.


Might be. Crows are about the same size as pigeons. Ravens are closer to a red tailed hawk in size.

We have ravens here, they make some weird noises but are quite a bit less obnoxious than the pigeons at the last place.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 21, 2023 02:09 PM (Bd6X8)

30 I know nothing about grafting. I have wanted to graft a different grape to some of the chardonnay grapes. I want to graft either a nebbiolo or barbera. No one drinks the chard and I end up giving a lot away.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 21, 2023 01:51 PM (9mPbX)


Do it, don't worry about getting it wrong, just start and do it.

there is a lot of info online about grafting. My success rate went up when I started watching videos and following the suggestion. I cheat and use electrical tape and tree seal, but some experts actually suggest it, others suggest plastic poly-film, others strips of innertubes, and Europeans suggest rafia twine and poly-film. I don't think there is a single solution.

My wife is getting some Korean variety grape cuttings from a friend of hers this weekend so I can graft them into the grapes I have. From the U-toob you can graft grapes just like with apples, with a cleft graft or bark graft, or whatever you want, depending on what sizes of wood you have.

(My wife is amazingly accepting of me having the fridge crisper drawer full of baggies of twigs.)

Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2023 02:11 PM (xhaym)

31 I wandered off. But didn't want to leave this hanging as I don't like misimpressions:

Congrats on the weight loss!

New Years Resolution?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 21, 2023 01:04 PM (7sRwU)

Not weight loss, at least none that's intentional, and I don't do NY resolutions. It's more a spiritual/mental thing.

Posted by: Insomniac - less and less each day at January 21, 2023 02:12 PM (II3Gr)

32 Besides attracting hummingbirds, a crab apple tree is the pollinator of choice for almost every apple. Pretty flowers and interesting jelly. Plant one today.

Posted by: buddhaha at January 21, 2023 02:15 PM (k8kXr)

33
Little Wattlebirds have steadfastly blocked Mirch McConnell's attempts to claim kinship with them.

"Wot's this 'little' nonsense? 'Is are as big as Ayer's Rock!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 21, 2023 02:15 PM (pNxlR)

34 Hiya Insom !

Posted by: JT at January 21, 2023 02:16 PM (T4tVD)

35 Very pretty eucalyptus, lots of them all over the Santa Barbara area.
The humming wars were great to watch at dawn this morning.
Nothing great growing in the garden but the weeds are loving the rain.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 21, 2023 02:17 PM (acXfL)

36 Why don't I live in OZ?!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at January 21, 2023 02:17 PM (F2Bjy)

37 Actually, CaliGirl, one tip I got was "choose the type of graft you want to do, get your cuttings from when you prune, go sit in the cold winter sun with your knife and tape, and practice cutting and joining your cuts together."

It is hard to do the graft where you slip the cutting under the bark of the rootstock because the bark has to slip, but everything else is pretty simple with tight bark.

Once you get it right sitting comfy with your tools at your elbow, you are prepared to do it bent over with the wind blowing up the back of your coat and a light sprinkle of rain on the back of your neck and your glasses fogging up as you fight with getting tape to bind the graft.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2023 02:20 PM (xhaym)

38 Hey JT!

Posted by: Insomniac - less and less each day at January 21, 2023 02:21 PM (II3Gr)

39 36 Why don't I live in OZ?!
Posted by: COMountainMarie

You would get so dizzy from being upside down all the time

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 21, 2023 02:23 PM (BtmcP)

40
The ice bubble magic is fascinating to watch. If temperatures and visitation schedules permit, I want to try it with our gKids.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 21, 2023 02:23 PM (pNxlR)

41 Why don't I live in OZ?!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at January 21, 2023 02:17 PM (F2Bjy)


A discussion I had once with an Australian:

Kindltot: Everything wants to kill you?
Australian: You have rabid skunks?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2023 02:23 PM (xhaym)

42 Found out they have toads that eat everything probably small children too

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2023 02:25 PM (xhxe8)

43 Lovely pics of growing things again, Thanks KT and all who emailed the pictures. I must shake off the laziness and get to the store. Need to pick up a prescription for dad and buy a few things. The farmyard, driveway still has 6-7 inches of glo-bull warmening from our Wed snow so the p/u will get some driving time.

Posted by: PaleRider at January 21, 2023 02:25 PM (3cGpq)

44 From Boise area: Lows above freezing earlier in the week, down to 12 F Friday night. High 48 last Sunday, dropping to below freezing yesterday; same predicted for a few more days. We woke to 2 inches of snow Thurs. morning.

We did get a little more leaf shredding done out back, before the snow. Still lots of un-compostable sycamore leaves out front.

Inventoried my seeds, so I know what I need to buy. We plan to start indoor tomato/poblano seeds March 1st or so.

Local avian flu issue: we found a sick bird out front at the seed feeder, so took the feeder down. I'll have to scrub the heck out of it before I put it up again... maybe in a month. I feel bad about removing food supply, because we're back to the teens at night again, but I'd rather not spread the flu.

We previously used a recipe involving frozen red raspberries and vodka to make raspberry liqueur, which came out fabulously. Planned to start another batch but we mistakenly got whipped cream flavored vodka - we tested it with a pinch of juice and it's seductively delicious! Alas, we have to wait 3 months to taste the finished batch. If we do a 2nd Moron cookbook, I'll definitely submit the recipe!

Posted by: Pat* at January 21, 2023 02:26 PM (mmUSj)

45 Wandering off again. So...bye.

Posted by: Insomniac - less and less each day at January 21, 2023 02:30 PM (II3Gr)

46 Party at Pat's place in 3 months. Using frozen berries is a great idea. My cousins in MN did or do the fruit liquor thing too.

Posted by: PaleRider at January 21, 2023 02:32 PM (3cGpq)

47 KT, thanks for the cucumber information.

Posted by: Ronster at January 21, 2023 02:32 PM (i8YGG)

48 Unseasonably warm here in central TN (I've been told) and daffodils are way up - not blooming yet though. The lady we bought the place from let to go to seed, landscaping wise so, I have a bunch of ripping and tearing out to do. The ornamental bushes, for example, are wildly overgrown and out of scale now for the house.

My container roses have thrown out some new shoots so that's promising. We really need to get ourselves to a nursery soon to begin to investigate what thrives here. I have holly bushes that are over 12' tall - I have never seen them that size before. As mentioned in the coffee thread this morning, I am the proud owner of new work boots - So, I'm pretty jazzed to get going.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 21, 2023 02:35 PM (qoGsy)

49 Been having an actual winter here in Front Range CO, first in several years. Been at least some snow on the ground since that big Arctic freeze. the ponds and lakes are pretty solidly frozen over and we have not seen more than one or two days over 40 degrees. The snow piles in the parking lots keep getting bigger. Not much melting after the last storm on Wednesday. Kinda cool, really. I'm one of those weirdos what likes winter.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at January 21, 2023 02:36 PM (UQUAY)

50 They tend to keep coming to feeders they know of year after year. Were they not around last summer though?
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We have hummers that stay here year round. Either that Anna's or the Rufous.

When my mom was going through chemotherapy, she wore a lot of hats. Her favorite had a big, bright yellow flower in it. She would sit in the hot tub on the deck by the Sound and the hummingbirds would fly right up to her hat and check it out, hovering just inches from her face. They were one of the few things that made her smile.

Whenever I see a hummer checking me out (I tend to wear bright colors as well) I fantasize that's my mom coming to say hello and telling me she's keeping an eye on me.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 21, 2023 02:36 PM (U2p+3)

51
You will curse the day you planted it if you elect to put a Tulip Poplar on your property. Its problem is its weak wood, so it drops a steady supply of twigs, seed pods, and broken branches during the year. We had one on our property that was thirty feet or more in height and I eagerly scheduled its removal twenty years ago.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 21, 2023 02:39 PM (pNxlR)

52 Posted by: nurse ratched at January 21, 2023 02:36 PM (U2p+3)

So sweet.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at January 21, 2023 02:41 PM (UQUAY)

53 I would content a sycamore is the worse

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2023 02:46 PM (xhxe8)

54 So much for him being the brains behind jello for brains

Posted by: Skip at January 21, 2023 02:48 PM (xhxe8)

55 I don't do NY resolutions. It's more a spiritual/mental thing.

Posted by: Insomniac - less and less each day at January 21, 2023 02:12 PM (II3Gr)

Good to see you, Insom! I've missed you.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at January 21, 2023 02:51 PM (Mzdiz)

56 Rain in ETEX! Yay!

Posted by: Eromero at January 21, 2023 02:52 PM (z3WCn)

57 Designated tree trimmer vvvvv Sycamores are the worst.

Posted by: Pat*''s Hubby at January 21, 2023 02:57 PM (mmUSj)

58 12 ... Also glad to hear about the Eastern Redbud attracting hummingbirds. We have a nice one in our front yard. Like Kallisto, I'll have to look for the hummers come this spring. It always has a huge amount of blossoms.

Posted by: JTB at January 21, 2023 02:59 PM (7EjX1)

59 When my mom was going through chemotherapy, she wore a lot of hats. Her favorite had a big, bright yellow flower in it. She would sit in the hot tub on the deck by the Sound and the hummingbirds would fly right up to her hat and check it out, hovering just inches from her face. They were one of the few things that made her smile.

Whenever I see a hummer checking me out (I tend to wear bright colors as well) I fantasize that's my mom coming to say hello and telling me she's keeping an eye on me.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 21, 2023 02:36 PM (U2p+3)

I love that.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at January 21, 2023 03:02 PM (Mzdiz)

60 Ronster at January 21, 2023 02:32 PM

I have seen big differences between varieties and also between the same variety grown on the ground vs. on a trellis. Had a gardening friend who grew them in part shade (it's hot here in summer).

Mexicans grow cukes under corn.

Posted by: KT at January 21, 2023 03:28 PM (rrtZS)

61 Pet thread is nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 21, 2023 03:29 PM (zZu0s)

62 Kindltot at January 21, 2023 02:11 PM

Encouraging!

Interesting about the Korean grapes.

Posted by: KT at January 21, 2023 03:29 PM (rrtZS)

63 I will let you all know about the grapes . . . Probably won't be able to shut up

Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2023 04:08 PM (xhaym)

64 "The attached picture, taken in a street near home, is of an Australian Red Flowering Gum (Eucalyptus ficifolia)"


Don't be fooled by its beauty. That tree is probably trying to kill you.

Posted by: Ripleys at January 21, 2023 04:32 PM (cUYo/)

65 one more addition to hummingbird attracters. We have two bottle brush {trees? shrubs?} in our yard, they always have hummers dancing around them when the hummers are here, Southeast GA.

Posted by: Semilitterate at January 21, 2023 04:41 PM (ugTLT)

66
(My wife is amazingly accepting of me having the fridge crisper drawer full of baggies of twigs.)
Posted by: Kindltot at January 21, 2023 02:11 PM

I will definitely look at youtube to see how to do it. I want to do like 5 rows, which would be maybe like 500-1000 plants. It would be too many for me to physically do. we'd probably have to have a crew .

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 21, 2023 05:48 PM (9mPbX)

67 64 "The attached picture, taken in a street near home, is of an Australian Red Flowering Gum (Eucalyptus ficifolia)"


Don't be fooled by its beauty. That tree is probably trying to kill you.

Well, it IS in the middle of the road!

On a similar "there are too many idiots" note, the street where I took that photo USED to be on a local bus route.

It isn't any more because the same idiots that put trees IN the roadway also installed a "traffic calming" roundabout that is too small for the buses to negotiate.

Posted by: Sendarius at January 21, 2023 10:52 PM (8J+d0)

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Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat