Mid-Morning Art Thread [Kris]

Raphael Deposition.jpg

The Deposition
Raffaello Sanzio da Urbino

This work is all about line and composition. It starts off like a very simple painting. Ten people are in the extreme foreground, divided into two groups of five. The background is a contemporary Renaissance landscape framed by the two settings of the Passion: the Tomb on the left and Cavalry on the right. A lone tree in the back marks the painting’s near-center vertical which divides the two groups. It’s very mathematical, very precise, very organized. This is where the simplicity ends, however.

The figures on the left show a variety of poses, and their heads create a tight arc that thrusts left. My eye goes to Christ’s body first. In a mass of bright reds, blues, and greens, His body is a pale tan. It is also a horizontal element among verticals. It sticks out. Following Raphael’s line, my eye comes to the man supporting Christ’s upper body. This man is straining from the dead weight of the corpse. Notice how his head and upper body parallels Christ’s and how the two faces are almost identical. It seems like Raphael is trying to link and contrast these two specifically. They are life and death, sinner and sinless, Man and God. I also like the irony here: the man is burdening under the weight of the dead Christ who died carrying the dead weight of this man’s sin.

Raphael continues the eye’s journey through the rest of the group: John, probably Joseph of Arimathea, and Mary Magdalene. Each reacts appropriately. The arc through these figures ends at Mary’s left hand which grasps Christ’s. It is full of meaning. Look at the subtle coloring. Christ’s hand is pale and lifeless while Mary’s has a warm golden tone. Her touch is tender, full of sadness and shock, and anchors one end of the arc. My eye is drawn through several different reactions, like I’m seeing the stages of grief unfold, before ending here. For me then, this tiny gesture is the emotional center of the painting.

Christ’s legs and the straining arm of the man holding them lead my eye into the second group of figures on the right. Echoing the left, this group leans right, but the motion is not as dramatic as the other. Where the leftward movement is defined by the pose of the man holding Christ’s head who is at the extreme left of the work, the man holding His legs is in the center. His pose mirrors the head-bearer but the flow rightward is stopped by the strong verticals of the women behind him. These women also form an arc around a central figure, Mother Mary, who faints and is supported by the others. Mary complements Jesus. Compare them. They have similar poses, facial expressions and pallor. They almost mirror each other. Also the line formed by her body will intersect Christ’s at a right angle, forming a T. This recreates the form of the Cross, which is also seen on the hilltop in back. As Mary falls back, her form brings my eye up to that hilltop and the event that preceded this scene.

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1 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 07, 2022 09:30 AM (Zz0t1)

2 The ladies seem distraught.

The original Paolo?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 07, 2022 09:31 AM (Zz0t1)

3 thx kris

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 07, 2022 09:31 AM (BRHaw)

4 I've conducted a few depositions that resembled that.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 07, 2022 09:31 AM (lf83v)

5 He got better

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 07, 2022 09:32 AM (AXxfu)

6 Love it but would not hang. Thanks for the explanations Kris.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 09:32 AM (qoGsy)

7 Why is the woman on the right copping a feel on Mary's breast?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 07, 2022 09:32 AM (lf83v)

8 There are masters, then there are Masters

Posted by: Skip's phone at December 07, 2022 09:33 AM (H+JVN)

9 Christ represents America right now, but we will rise again.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 07, 2022 09:33 AM (AXxfu)

10 This does not seem to be a seasonal topic, but it is a magnificent painting. Many thanks for the excellent painting analysis.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at December 07, 2022 09:33 AM (hOUT3)

11 I like it, but I would not paint it on the side of my Free Candy van.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 07, 2022 09:33 AM (yQpMk)

12 Kris, as usual you've written a terrific explanation. Thank you.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at December 07, 2022 09:34 AM (AiZBA)

13 A depiction of the Crucifixion is not going to help my mood this morning.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 09:34 AM (SffTi)

14 Why is the woman on the right copping a feel on Mary's breast?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 07, 2022 09:32 AM (lf83v)

Look at both hands. She's trying to support her as she passes out.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 09:34 AM (9UlRk)

15 1 woman and 1 man are carrying Christ
How about a little more help here?

Posted by: Skip's phone at December 07, 2022 09:35 AM (H+JVN)

16 This painting barely shows the wound in Christ's side, and not at all the blood flowing to His groin. That means (as we now know) it is anti-trans. So it should be cancelled.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 07, 2022 09:35 AM (TgBWG)

17 Well done there, Sponge!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at December 07, 2022 09:35 AM (hOUT3)

18 12 Kris, as usual you've written a terrific explanation. Thank you.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at December 07, 2022 09:34 AM (AiZBA)

Thank you.

Posted by: Kris at December 07, 2022 09:36 AM (OyyDO)

19 Thanks Kris. You always make me see things I otherwise would not have noticed.

What wondrous love is this, o my soul, o my soul?

Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2022 09:36 AM (45fpk)

20 Christ represents America right now, but we will rise again.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 07, 2022 09:33 AM (AXxfu)

America right now is a well worn table in the agora thrown ass over tea kettle with a whole bunch of foreign and domestic specie scattered about.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 09:36 AM (9UlRk)

21 What's up with the eyeball on a stick in the bottom left?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 07, 2022 09:36 AM (AXxfu)

22 The moment Tater Stelter was released from CNN, image from the parking garage.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 07, 2022 09:37 AM (Zz0t1)

23 I like the dark cloud over Calvary and the beam or ray coming down to the left.

Also, the tomb as the rocks fade to black.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 07, 2022 09:37 AM (BRHaw)

24 So, why did most Renaissance art paint historical scenes in the dress and style common in the Renaissance?

Was it an intentional style choice, because it was easier, or they just had no idea what clothes of the time looked like?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2022 09:37 AM (ESjRY)

25 Morning again, all,

Kris has quite the explanation for us. So it's Mary Magdalene who is holding Christ's hand? Her face reminds me of the young Gillian Anderson when she first appeared on The X-Files.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2022 09:37 AM (J2vNu)

26 Why is the woman on the right copping a feel on Mary's breast?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 07, 2022 09:32 AM (lf83v)



Jesus' mom has got it goin' on.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 07, 2022 09:37 AM (Zz0t1)

27 Her face reminds me of the young Gillian Anderson when she first appeared on The X-Files.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

"The Truth is right here."

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 09:38 AM (qoGsy)

28 Who knew there was so many redheaded Jews?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2022 09:39 AM (ESjRY)

29 Quite an amazing painting, especially in person, and Kris's write-up is great.

Posted by: Caliban at December 07, 2022 09:39 AM (ni2c1)

30 Beautiful painting. Those old Italians knew what they were doing.

Posted by: huerfano at December 07, 2022 09:39 AM (dTFZY)

31 X-files season one: Here is this creepy scenario maybe it is aliens/monsters/whatever maybe not.

X-files season two and on: I'm not saying its aliens but...ITS ALIENS

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2022 09:40 AM (ESjRY)

32 I would hang this one.

Thanks, CBD. Kris, thanks for the notes.

Posted by: Gref at December 07, 2022 09:40 AM (AMIL/)

33 Beautiful painting. Those old Italians knew what they were doing.
Posted by: huerfano at December 07, 2022 09:39 AM (dTFZY)



Pikers.

- - Hunter Biden, Artist

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 07, 2022 09:40 AM (Zz0t1)

34 So, why did most Renaissance art paint historical scenes in the dress and style common in the Renaissance?

Was it an intentional style choice, because it was easier, or they just had no idea what clothes of the time looked like?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2022


***
Yes.

It was fashionable at the time, I think, and in many later periods, to portray the past clothed in the styles of the painter's present. Paintings of Roman soldiers did not look like the depictions on Trajan's Column, for instance, but more like the uniforms of the painter's day (plus a plumed helmet that didn't look much like a real legionary's helmet, but was dramatic).

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2022 09:40 AM (J2vNu)

35 Is that some kind of drapery hanging down from the middle cross?

Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2022 09:40 AM (45fpk)

36 What's up with the eyeball on a stick in the bottom left?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

Italian painter. It's Il Malocchio. If you don't believe, there's gonna be trouble.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 09:41 AM (qoGsy)

37 Raphael was a jive turkey

Posted by: Chauncy at December 07, 2022 09:41 AM (us2H3)

38 The center tree looks like a complete afterthought and was graffiti added MUCH later.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 07, 2022 09:42 AM (Zz0t1)

39 Well done there, Sponge!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at December 07, 2022 09:35 AM (hOUT3)



*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 07, 2022 09:42 AM (Zz0t1)

40 I sometimes muse on how a Roman citizen back then would have reacted to a cult adopting as their symbol the actual method of execution by which their leader was killed by the government.

It would be like a modern cult worshiping Ted Bundy wearing little chair figurines on a chain around their necks.... "Dude, these people are freaking nuts!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 09:43 AM (9UlRk)

41 - - Hunter Biden, Artist
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 07, 2022 09:40 AM (Zz0t1)

ppfffttt

Posted by: Celia Jimenez at December 07, 2022 09:43 AM (us2H3)

42
Italian painter. It's Il Malocchio. If you don't believe, there's gonna be trouble.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 09:41 AM (qoGsy)



The Karate Kid?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 07, 2022 09:43 AM (Zz0t1)

43 1 woman and 1 man are carrying Christ
How about a little more help here?
Posted by: Skip's phone

They're not in the Union....

Posted by: JT at December 07, 2022 09:43 AM (T4tVD)

44 These women also form an arc around a central figure, Mother Mary, who faints and is supported by the others.

I think Jesus' mother is the one with the halo and Mary Magdalene is the one fainting. I'm assuming the women on the right represent the women who went to the tomb early on Sunday to care for Jesus' body and found the tomb empty.

Posted by: Emmie at December 07, 2022 09:43 AM (Emce2)

45 What's up with the eyeball on a stick in the bottom left?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

That's from the lady who had her eyeballs tattooed.....

Posted by: JT at December 07, 2022 09:45 AM (T4tVD)

46 It was fashionable at the time, I think, and in many later periods, to portray the past clothed in the styles of the painter's present. Paintings of Roman soldiers did not look like the depictions on Trajan's Column, for instance, but more like the uniforms of the painter's day (plus a plumed helmet that didn't look much like a real legionary's helmet, but was dramatic).
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2022 09:40 AM (J2vNu)

The exceptions tho were God/Christ, Mary, the Apostles, and sometimes angels. These were clothed in ancient garb, possibly to emphasize their stature and to separate them from our carnal/mortal world. I don't recall seeing these figures depicted in contemporary dress.

Posted by: Kris at December 07, 2022 09:46 AM (OyyDO)

47 Thank you Kris for your insights. They lead to a prayerful contemplation….always a good thing in this vale of tears.

Posted by: 7man at December 07, 2022 09:46 AM (qwO6y)

48 44 Never mind -- I see most of the figures have halos.

Posted by: Emmie at December 07, 2022 09:46 AM (Emce2)

49 Lotta dead around here lately. I'm sensing a theme.

'Morning, fellow outcasts.

Posted by: creeper at December 07, 2022 09:46 AM (cTCuP)

50 There's a whole lotta groping going on.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 09:47 AM (iqzch)

51 It would be like a modern cult worshiping Ted Bundy wearing little chair figurines on a chain around their necks.... "Dude, these people are freaking nuts!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 09:43 AM (9UlRk)


I've often thought the same thing. Christians use a symbol of execution as a sign of faith, hope and adoration. Death becomes life.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2022 09:47 AM (45fpk)

52 In what world does it make sense that we are still discussing a homeless carpenter, a simple rabble-rouser against the established earthly rulers of his time, that had but a handful of impoverished, mostly despised friends, and who had no money, no power and no majesty?

Unless, that is, He is in truth who He said He is.



He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. Like one from whom people hide their faces he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 07, 2022 09:48 AM (G5eFy)

53 35 Is that some kind of drapery hanging down from the middle cross?
Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2022 09:40 AM (45fpk)

It's a ladder.

Posted by: Kris at December 07, 2022 09:48 AM (OyyDO)

54 I don't recall.....
I don't recall.....
I don't recall.....
I don't recall.....
I don't recall.....
I don't recall.....

*seeing this painting before

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 07, 2022 09:48 AM (w9Wax)

55 I sometimes muse on how a Roman citizen back then would have reacted to a cult adopting as their symbol the actual method of execution by which their leader was killed by the government.

One of the interesting things about Christianity is that it is very abnormal by historical religious standards.

That the chief figure of the religion died for mankind's sins...and allowed himself to do so by execution by a government...is unheard of.

Compare with Islam where Big Mo is just some conquering hero murdering and looting his way through his enemies. Crom would approve.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2022 09:48 AM (ESjRY)

56 What's up with the eyeball on a stick in the bottom left?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby


Early Ring doorbell.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 09:48 AM (iqzch)

57 I see most of the figures have halos.

Posted by: Emmie at December 07, 2022 09:46 AM (Emce2)


I should look up the origin of the idea of halos.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2022 09:49 AM (45fpk)

58 Is that some kind of drapery hanging down from the middle cross?
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The ladder or the INRI charges.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 07, 2022 09:49 AM (Vwz3I)

59 Not a fan of any depictions of Christ. Especially ones with the soy boy physique.

Posted by: Fool Otto at December 07, 2022 09:49 AM (DB16e)

60 40 I sometimes muse on how a Roman citizen back then would have reacted to a cult adopting as their symbol the actual method of execution by which their leader was killed by the government.

It would be like a modern cult worshiping Ted Bundy wearing little chair figurines on a chain around their necks.... "Dude, these people are freaking nuts!"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 09:43 AM (9UlRk)

Well the theological claims are likewise extreme. God caring about you personally? Becoming man and having friendship with mankind?

It's radically different from other religions throughout history in that regard. It's not unusual for deities to be depicted as rulers, but it would generally be odd to think of a ruler that cares for their subjects in that manner.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 07, 2022 09:49 AM (eYoxG)

61 There's a whole lotta groping going on.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 09:47 AM (iqzch)



In a time of need, the bosom must be comforted.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 07, 2022 09:49 AM (Zz0t1)

62 Kris, Thanks so much for that analysis. I was able to notice some of the factors but less than half. I was impressed by the very individual faces and the liveliness in each. There is nothing wooden in the figures.

I was struck by the use of color. Nothing garish, and everything to be found in nature: the browns, the greens in the clothing and landscape. Even the reds can be found in flowers. It is a scene of the earth and earthly matters about a Heaven-sent event.

Posted by: JTB at December 07, 2022 09:49 AM (7EjX1)

63 The painting is well done, but the people look like they're in a Broadway play.

Posted by: JT at December 07, 2022 09:49 AM (T4tVD)

64 It's a ladder.

Posted by: Kris at December 07, 2022 09:48 AM (OyyDO)


Thanks Kris.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2022 09:50 AM (45fpk)

65 1 woman and 1 man are carrying Christ
How about a little more help here?

Posted by: Skip's phone

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"That's no woman!"

-- Tranny Jews for Jesus

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at December 07, 2022 09:51 AM (UFfHH)

66 I'm not sure of the "rules" for painting this Biblical scene--perhaps all these people have to be included. But it looks overly crowded to me and it seems to lose the focus that a work like this should have. $.02.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 07, 2022 09:51 AM (p+1gI)

67 Kris, your explanation is greatly appreciated.

Beautiful painting.

Posted by: Lola at December 07, 2022 09:52 AM (NIYa7)

68 We need Jesus, the answer to our problem, Shaitan.

Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2022 09:52 AM (0OP+5)

69 Jesus, you had Caevana as a hold !!

Posted by: Mary at December 07, 2022 09:53 AM (us2H3)

70 Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2022 09:48 AM (ESjRY)

It's one of the things that first attracted me to it.... if you were going to make up a religion, this is absolutely *not* how anyone would do it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 09:54 AM (9UlRk)

71 Thank you, Kris. There's a lot of stuff there that I never would have noticed. What is the significance of the two people doing the lifting being the only two without halos? Also, coincidentally or not, they also appear to be the only two wearing shoes.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 07, 2022 09:55 AM (nfrXX)

72 Outstanding explanation, and I like the painting as well. The strategic use of red is interesting, although I'm not sure I grasp its significance.
As far as the looks on people's faces, this has been a fascination of mine all my life. What would be your reaction on Good Friday when the person you'd invested everything in, your Messiah, is dead? Was it possible for them to see a big picture, or were they just crushed until the Resurrection?

Posted by: Wally at December 07, 2022 09:55 AM (FJYfm)

73 44 These women also form an arc around a central figure, Mother Mary, who faints and is supported by the others.

I think Jesus' mother is the one with the halo and Mary Magdalene is the one fainting. I'm assuming the women on the right represent the women who went to the tomb early on Sunday to care for Jesus' body and found the tomb empty.
Posted by: Emmie at December 07, 2022 09:43 AM (Emce2)

Both women have haloes. Mother Mary's on the right is harder to see, but it's there. Enbiggen the picture. Magdalene in holding Jesus' hand. One of her main attributes is her long, loose hair. It symbolizes her penitence, and maybe her life before Jesus She is also dressed fancier. Mother Mary is almost always depicted (in pre-modern religious art) in a veil and more plainly clothed symbolizing her modesty and chastity.

Posted by: Kris at December 07, 2022 09:55 AM (OyyDO)

74 I think I've seen the model for St John in other paintings too.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 07, 2022 09:56 AM (Vwz3I)

75 In a time of need, the bosom must be comforted.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 07, 2022 09:49 AM


In a time of distress, the bosom must be calmed.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2022 09:56 AM (a3Q+t)

76 Kris is the best

Posted by: Cayman at December 07, 2022 09:56 AM (WPxZu)

77 In a time of need, the bosom must be comforted.
Posted by: Sponge


Try that at the next funeral you go to.
You'll get introduced to the Whack! Fuk! game toot sweet.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 09:56 AM (iqzch)

78 Another excellent review, Kris. Thank you.

"Also the line formed by her body will intersect Christ’s at a right angle, forming a T. This recreates the form of the Cross, which is also seen on the hilltop in back. As Mary falls back, her form brings my eye up to that hilltop and the event that preceded this scene."

Mary, the mother of God, at the foundation of the Cross, Christ, her son, at the top. Mission, first phase, completed. On a more mundane note - four men in attendance - two working, one gawking, and one one supervising. Some things never change.

Posted by: mrp at December 07, 2022 09:56 AM (6eRlp)

79 "This is the last time we take Jesus to Fifty Cent Tequila Night."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2022 09:56 AM (bW8dp)

80 Good painting. Can't poke fun at it.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at December 07, 2022 09:57 AM (24fqN)

81 And the poor schnook Romans thinking that just executing the guy so everyone shuts up about it was the right play.... boy, were they wrong!!!!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 09:57 AM (9UlRk)

82 "This is the last time we take Jesus to Fifty Cent Tequila Night."
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

It is so wrong I laughed at this. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 09:57 AM (qoGsy)

83 My take is a halo on a living oerson is showing they are blessed by God

Any different options?

Posted by: Skip's phone at December 07, 2022 09:57 AM (H+JVN)

84 68 We need Jesus, the answer to our problem, Shaitan.
Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2022 09:52 AM

It's hard sometimes for people to navigate the idea that Jesus is more concerned with your status in the kingdom of heaven than this false kingdom on earth. As one pastor put it, we're just passing through. Act accordingly.

What gives me hope is that more and more people are awaking to the gospel and whether it's art like this or Christian concerts or online content, people are searching for a way out of this mess and realizing that there is one. It's just got nothing to do with winning elections in Georgia.

The Jews wanted a Messiah to save them from Rome. God instead gave them a Messiah to save them from hell.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 07, 2022 09:57 AM (mZ3xv)

85 Has anyone here seen Risen? It’s a great movie. My wife and I watch it on Easter.

It’s interesting how they show the crucified being taken down from the crosses in that movie — there is a lever that the Roman soldiers pull that lowers the cross to a horizontal position at or near ground level so people don’t actually have to climb up on a ladder to retrieve the bodies. Presumably, the same device would have been used to raise the crosses with the bodies on them at the beginning of the procedure. Very interesting. Given the Romans’ mechanical ingenuity, I can very much believe that they actually used such a device, but I have never encountered it apart from that movie.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 09:57 AM (SffTi)

86 What is the significance of the two people doing the lifting being the only two without halos? Also, coincidentally or not, they also appear to be the only two wearing shoes.
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Either Roman soldiers or servants of Joseph of Arimathea.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 07, 2022 09:58 AM (Vwz3I)

87 "Has anyone here seen Risen?"

Recommended.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at December 07, 2022 09:58 AM (24fqN)

88 Pretty cool that this was painted by a mutant turtle

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 07, 2022 09:58 AM (F/qcc)

89 Thank you, Kris. There's a lot of stuff there that I never would have noticed. What is the significance of the two people doing the lifting being the only two without halos? Also, coincidentally or not, they also appear to be the only two wearing shoes.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 07, 2022 09:55 AM (nfrXX)
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I'm fairly sure that the two guys lifting Jesus are dressed as common laborers oof Raphael's time.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 09:58 AM (AuTCi)

90 > It is so wrong I laughed at this. . . .
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 09:57 AM (qoGsy)

If I get to Hell before you, I'll save you a seat by the fire.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2022 09:58 AM (bW8dp)

91 test

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2022 09:58 AM (lz5hY)

92 Given the Romans’ mechanical ingenuity, I can very much believe that they actually used such a device, but I have never encountered it apart from that movie.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 09:57 AM (SffTi)

Before Christ, crucifixion was just a boring political affair.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 09:59 AM (9UlRk)

93 If I get to Hell before you, I'll save you a seat by the fire.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

"Hey stan, is Tonypete here?"

Nope, not yet.

"Damn(ed)!"

Yes, you are.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 10:00 AM (qoGsy)

94 Who is actually carrying Jesus? I assume one of them is Nicodemus, but who would the other be? The one on the right looks very young, and my initial impression was that he was an official of some sort based on his clothes, but he's got his sleeves and tunic rolled up in a very un-official way.

Posted by: pookysgirl, puzzled at December 07, 2022 10:01 AM (XKZwp)

95 87 "Has anyone here seen Risen?"


Is that the one that is told kind of like a mystery, with a Roman soldier trying to uncover what happened to Jesus body?

If so, it's a great movie.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 07, 2022 10:01 AM (G5eFy)

96 Mother Mary is almost always depicted (in pre-modern religious art) in a veil and more plainly clothed symbolizing her modesty and chastity.
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And blue, like red for Christ, is a colour associated with her.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 07, 2022 10:02 AM (Vwz3I)

97 Is that the one that is told kind of like a mystery, with a Roman soldier trying to uncover what happened to Jesus body?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

The Soldier is Columbous.

"Oh. Just I more thing."

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 10:03 AM (qoGsy)

98 95 Yep, Bitter Clinger, that’s the one.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:03 AM (SffTi)

99 Let the games continue. Lake has filed her lawsuit challenging the election.

(Hoping we are past 100 when I post)

Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 07, 2022 10:03 AM (XNGu7)

100 99 Let the games continue. Lake has filed her lawsuit challenging the election.

(Hoping we are past 100 when I post)
Posted by: Dave in Fla

Missed it by 'that' much.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 10:04 AM (qoGsy)

101 DiF violated the 100 comment rule.

Banhammer!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 07, 2022 10:04 AM (G5eFy)

102 Crap, 99, just missed it

Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 07, 2022 10:05 AM (XNGu7)

103 Mother Mary is almost always depicted (in pre-modern religious art) in a veil and more plainly clothed symbolizing her modesty and chastity.
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And blue, like red for Christ, is a colour associated with her.
Posted by: andycanuck


Come to think of it, I've never seen her in any other color besides white for clothes and a blue cloak/shawl/robe. Never brown.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 10:05 AM (iqzch)

104 99 Let the games continue. Lake has filed her lawsuit challenging the election.

(Hoping we are past 100 when I post)
Posted by: Dave in Fla
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It's not nice to fool Mother Nature CBD!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 07, 2022 10:05 AM (Vwz3I)

105 71 Thank you, Kris. There's a lot of stuff there that I never would have noticed. What is the significance of the two people doing the lifting being the only two without halos? Also, coincidentally or not, they also appear to be the only two wearing shoes.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 07, 2022 09:55 AM (nfrXX)

They're the "extras." Either aides to the Romans helping to take the bodies off the crosses, or grave workers helping with the burial. They aren't believers, therefore no haloes. They're just doing their job. They wear shoes because they represent everyone else. All the haloed figures are barefoot to further emphasize their holy stature. It's a classical reference, or what Renaissance artists thought as classical.

Posted by: Kris at December 07, 2022 10:05 AM (OyyDO)

106 Banhammer!
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 07, 2022 10:04 AM (G5eFy)
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Or, worse: banhampster!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:05 AM (AuTCi)

107 Why are the two carrying Christ without halo?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 10:06 AM (iqzch)

108 At least DiF didn’t quote Queensryche.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:06 AM (SffTi)

109 Come to think of it, I've never seen her in any other color besides white for clothes and a blue cloak/shawl/robe. Never brown.
Posted by: rickb223

Even the statues we have of Our Blessed Mother have her dressed in a blue mantle.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 10:06 AM (qoGsy)

110 Crap, 99, just missed it
Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 07, 2022 10:05 AM


You continue to underestimate our perfidiousness.

Posted by: Democrats at December 07, 2022 10:06 AM (a3Q+t)

111
Or, worse: banhampster!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:05 AM (AuTCi)

Cruel and unusual punishment?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 07, 2022 10:06 AM (mZ3xv)

112 > I'm fairly sure that the two guys lifting Jesus are dressed as common laborers oof Raphael's time.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 09:58 AM (AuTCi)

Steel-toed sandals.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2022 10:07 AM (bW8dp)

113 "And blue, like red for Christ, is a colour associated with her."

Which is very striking in Rogier van der Weyden's Descent from the Cross, one of my favorite paintings.


Posted by: Tuna at December 07, 2022 10:08 AM (gLRfa)

114 What AlaBama said @ 84.

Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2022 10:08 AM (0OP+5)

115 Sorry to harp on it, but the gears are spinning. Without Christ, a cross is just lumber. The idea that countless people had been, and would continue to be, murdered in this manner, it was nothing particularly special or noteworthy, except to serve as execution and display method at the same time. To the extent it was a symbol at all, it meant "Don't do what this guy did and piss us off, or we'll get you". But the cross, the wood itself, was probably considered incidental. Of course it's a cross. That's how people are shaped. What's special about that? Then Jesus comes along....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 10:08 AM (9UlRk)

116 It's not nice to fool Mother Nature CBD!
Posted by: andycanuck



I got popped once ON 100.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 10:08 AM (iqzch)

117 Raphael’s The Deposition >>>>>>> Fauci’s deposition

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:09 AM (SffTi)

118 Steel-toed sandals.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2022 10:07 AM


We never sleep.

Posted by: OSHA at December 07, 2022 10:09 AM (a3Q+t)

119 i see that Christ has a halo and so does Mary Magdalene. Why do you think that the painter didnt paint one above the head of his mother? Thank you for the explanation of the composition of the painting.

Posted by: dreadpirateroberta at December 07, 2022 10:09 AM (hQnrN)

120 Even the statues we have of Our Blessed Mother have her dressed in a blue mantle.
Posted by: Tonypete


And a much lighter blue, not a dark navy blue.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 10:10 AM (iqzch)

121 108 At least DiF didn’t quote Queensryche.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:06 AM (SffTi)

There's a job for you in the system, boy, with nothing to sign.

Posted by: XTC at December 07, 2022 10:10 AM (UnA8+)

122 Magdalene in holding Jesus' hand. One of her main attributes is her long, loose hair. It symbolizes her penitence, and maybe her life before Jesus

Posted by: Kris at December 07, 2022 09:55 AM (OyyDO)


Aha, thank you, Kris! I had them backwards.

Posted by: Emmie at December 07, 2022 10:10 AM (Emce2)

123 119 i see that Christ has a halo and so does Mary Magdalene. Why do you think that the painter didnt paint one above the head of his mother? Thank you for the explanation of the composition of the painting.
Posted by: dreadpirateroberta at December 07, 2022 10:09 AM (hQnrN)

Embiggen it. It's there but hard to see.

Posted by: Kris at December 07, 2022 10:10 AM (OyyDO)

124 At least DiF didn’t quote Queensryche.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:06 AM (SffTi)

There's a job for you in the system, boy, with nothing to sign.
Posted by: XTC at December 07, 2022 10:10 AM (UnA8+)



BEWARE: Thin Ice

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 07, 2022 10:11 AM (Zz0t1)

125 Zeldin says he is NOT in the running for RNC chair, but that McDaniel should take a long walk off a short pier (I might have paraphrased that last part a bit).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2022 10:11 AM (bW8dp)

126 Last night I saw a comment that stuck with me. Someone said that it felt like a shroud has been placed over America in preparation for the system of the Beast to be put in place. Scary stuff to read before bedtime

Posted by: Jmel at December 07, 2022 10:11 AM (RWHIh)

127 *blinks*

*zooms in*

Man, those halos are almost an afterthought, aren't they?

Posted by: pookysgirl, cleaning her phone screen at December 07, 2022 10:11 AM (XKZwp)

128 Why do you think that the painter didnt paint one above the head of his mother?
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It's hidden behind the head of the lady with the red Alice band?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:11 AM (AuTCi)

129 > 124 At least DiF didn’t quote Queensryche.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:06 AM (SffTi)

"Swiss bank accounts while giving their secretaries the slam."

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that "Reverend" Warlock likely has a gigantic sex scandal waiting in the wings?


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2022 10:12 AM (bW8dp)

130 Curious about Halos as well. I wonder if it's all just up to the artist as to who they consider 'sacred'. Halos are used in many religions and even for political leaders like in Rome.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 07, 2022 10:12 AM (mZ3xv)

131 Thank you!

Posted by: dreadpirateroberta at December 07, 2022 10:12 AM (hQnrN)

132 Why do you think that the painter didnt paint one above the head of his mother?
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It's hidden behind the head of the lady with the red Alice band?
Posted by: Captain Obvious


It's extremely faint. The only two without halos are the Cart Boys.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 10:13 AM (iqzch)

133
126 Last night I saw a comment that stuck with me. Someone said that it felt like a shroud has been placed over America in preparation for the system of the Beast to be put in place. Scary stuff to read before bedtime
Posted by: Jmel at December 07, 2022 10:11 AM (RWHIh)

One step closer to victory!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 07, 2022 10:13 AM (mZ3xv)

134 Steel-toed sandals.
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Safety primus.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 07, 2022 10:13 AM (Vwz3I)

135 Steel-toed sandals.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2022 10:07 AM

We never sleep.
Posted by: OSHA at December 07, 2022 10:09 AM (a3Q+t)

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One day, all works of art showing human faces will have to be altered to include the wearing of masks.

If it saves just one still-life ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Ctrl+Galt+Delete to remove the The Great Reset malware virus at December 07, 2022 10:13 AM (p4cMk)

136 Is it just me, or does anyone else think that "Reverend" Warlock likely has a gigantic sex scandal waiting in the wings?


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2022 10:12 AM (bW8dp)

I have it on good authority that Warnock has never had even one abortion.

Fucking poser.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 10:14 AM (9UlRk)

137 Halos are used in many religions and even for political leaders like in Rome.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 07, 2022 10:12 AM


Don't forget me.

Posted by: B. Hussain Obama at December 07, 2022 10:14 AM (a3Q+t)

138 Looked it up - Concerning halos, according to Catholic tradition:

In the beginning of the Church, holy persons and God were not pictured with halos because the halo was of pagan derivation. But in the third century pagan art stopped using the halo and it was adopted and refined by the Church at that time.

Another name for halo is nimbus.

Interesting.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 10:14 AM (qoGsy)

139 It's extremely faint. The only two without halos are the Cart Boys.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 10:13 AM (iqzch)
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Jesus and the Cart Boys. That's a great name for a band. You should write that down.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:14 AM (AuTCi)

140 From teh Twatters:

"I am so bored of the Harry and Meghan shenanigans. In happier times Harry would have raised an army against the King, with William meeting him somewhere in Leicestershire where Harry would have died in battle, his body never found, and Meghan would have ended up in a convent."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2022 10:14 AM (bW8dp)

141 Maybe it's the height or curly hair, but the guy carrying Christ's legs looks like my husband's oldest nephew.

Posted by: pookysgirl, aunt to a few curly-haired boys at December 07, 2022 10:15 AM (XKZwp)

142 138 Looked it up - Concerning halos, according to Catholic tradition:

In the beginning of the Church, holy persons and God were not pictured with halos because the halo was of pagan derivation. But in the third century pagan art stopped using the halo and it was adopted and refined by the Church at that time.

Another name for halo is nimbus.

Interesting.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 10:14 AM (qoGsy

Mine's a nimbus 3000!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 07, 2022 10:15 AM (mZ3xv)

143 Jesus and the Cart Boys. That's a great name for a band. You should write that down.
Posted by: Captain Obvious


On it!
(The writing, not the cart)

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 10:16 AM (iqzch)

144 Jesus and the Cart Boys. That's a great name for a band. You should write that down.
Posted by: Captain Obvious

Pontius Pilate and the Nail Driving Five is still up for grabs.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 10:16 AM (qoGsy)

145 Last night I saw a comment that stuck with me. Someone said that it felt like a shroud has been placed over America in preparation for the system of the Beast to be put in place. Scary stuff to read before bedtime
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Nothing going on makes sense.
The news just keeps getting worse.
Everything is falling apart
There are no laws upon the dishonest

And the majority of the public is voting like everything is going great.

Something is going on

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 07, 2022 10:16 AM (F/qcc)

146 I would like to think that last night is the final nail in the coffin for McDaniel. When you can't win an election where you have a 4% registration advantage (Yes I know Georgia doesn't register by party, but we know who is who)

The RNC is ultimately responsible for all state operations, and they were caught flatfooted in a lot of states.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 07, 2022 10:17 AM (XNGu7)

147 Why are the two by the center cross waving?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 10:17 AM (iqzch)

148 "Cavalry" on the right?? I don't see them.

Posted by: go get your fuckin shine box at December 07, 2022 10:17 AM (WusEB)

149 Well, at least with the Warlock in the Senate, Kamala won't have to hang around D.C., and can now devote the time she's always wanted to on Border Czaring.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2022 10:18 AM (a3Q+t)

150
147 Why are the two by the center cross waving?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 10:17 AM (iqzch)


Someone forgot their Sandals

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 07, 2022 10:18 AM (mZ3xv)

151 Christ looks really knocked out in this one.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 07, 2022 10:18 AM (3FiQa)

152 Meghan Markle in a convent?

That’s a funny way to spell “whorehouse.”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:19 AM (SffTi)

153 149 Well, at least with the Warlock in the Senate, Kamala won't have to hang around D.C., and can now devote the time she's always wanted to on Border Czaring.
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Root Causing is hard work.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 07, 2022 10:19 AM (3FiQa)

154 And the majority of the public is voting like everything is going great.

Something is going on
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 07, 2022 10:16 AM (F/qcc)

If you're not here looking at this stuff every day, things are fine. We had a little disease panic, that's over with. Stuff's a little more expensive but oh well what can ya do. Politicians are still there, existing. There's plenty of war porn on cable news if that's your kink.

Why would anyone be all that upset?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 10:19 AM (9UlRk)

155 Nothing going on makes sense.
The news just keeps getting worse.
Everything is falling apart
There are no laws upon the dishonest

And the majority of the public is voting like everything is going great.

Something is going on
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

There's something happening here
But what it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 10:19 AM (iqzch)

156 Why are the two by the center cross waving?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 10:17 AM (iqzch)
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Only one is gesturing. Perhaps it's Longinus saying to a buddy, "Yep, that's where He was, all right..."

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:19 AM (AuTCi)

157 ...and Meghan would have ended up in a convent."
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Or a "nunnery".

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 07, 2022 10:20 AM (Vwz3I)

158 Some leftist says MAGA people need to die, I reply that I hope she chokes on a chicken wing. And I am the one who gets suspended.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 07, 2022 10:21 AM (t3/qz)

159 Meghan Markle in a convent?

That’s a funny way to spell “whorehouse.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:19 AM (SffTi)
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Well, in Shakespeare's time, "nunnery" was slang for a brothel.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:21 AM (AuTCi)

160 Only one is gesturing. Perhaps it's Longinus saying to a buddy, "Yep, that's where He was, all right..."
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:19 AM (AuTCi)

"Hey, look! Free ladder!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 10:21 AM (9UlRk)

161 159 Good point. I had forgotten that.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:22 AM (SffTi)

162 Horde Elizabethan mind!

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 07, 2022 10:22 AM (Vwz3I)

163 I am usually not a huge fan of Raphael, but I like this one. It's different. Raphael's work always seemed too cute to me with little soul. It's a similar problem I have with Leonardo, all brain and little soul. For me, Michelangelo is the pinnacle of Renaissance art. His work is not only intelligent and skillful but he pours so much soul into his work it floods the room.

Posted by: Kris at December 07, 2022 10:22 AM (OyyDO)

164

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl harbor?!

Posted by: Sen. Blutarski at December 07, 2022 10:22 AM (nXbih)

165 Well, in Shakespeare's time, "nunnery" was slang for a brothel.
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Nuns like large Bishops.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 07, 2022 10:23 AM (3FiQa)

166 My problem with being black pilled is that I am not constitutionally geared toward pessimism. My brain always wants to be optimistic.

It's exhausting telling it to shut up all the time 🙄

Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 07, 2022 10:23 AM (m4xJd)

167 It's a similar problem I have with Leonardo, all brain and little soul.
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I like Leonardo's portrait of the lady with a ferret. She's a seven-sector callout.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:24 AM (AuTCi)

168 The RNC is ultimately responsible for all state operations, and they were caught flatfooted in a lot of states.
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I agree with your assessment last night? that we need more money, spent wisely.

You'd be surprised at how many republicans tell say, 'that's not who we are' when I tell them we need to target voters, help them get a ballot, fill it out for them, and return it. They just don't get it yet.

Posted by: MJ at December 07, 2022 10:24 AM (zwDuR)

169 For me, Michelangelo is the pinnacle of Renaissance art.
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Check out Brugal the Elder.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 07, 2022 10:24 AM (3FiQa)

170 The kittens are on the dining table.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:25 AM (AuTCi)

171 What this painting really needs is the fat sweaty hand of an under-medicated imbecile super glued to it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 10:25 AM (9UlRk)

172 Deposition. These people don't even have a court reporter. Dummies.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at December 07, 2022 10:25 AM (KFhLj)

173 136 Is it just me, or does anyone else think that "Reverend" Warlock likely has a gigantic sex scandal waiting in the wings?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2022 10:12 AM (bW8dp)


That's just racist crazy talk.

Posted by: The Reverend Jesse Jackson at December 07, 2022 10:26 AM (PiwSw)

174 Chuck Schumer cheerfully greets an incoming piece of legislation that deals with a number of different topics:

“Halo, Omnimbus Bill!”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:26 AM (SffTi)

175 Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl harbor?!
Posted by: Sen. Blutarski

It's a stretch but you can make an argument some Germans (along with an Italian or two and some Hungarians) bombed Hiroshima.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 10:26 AM (qoGsy)

176 > Well, in Shakespeare's time, "nunnery" was slang for a brothel.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:21 AM (AuTCi)

Legend had it that many convents were rife with such things back in the day.

That's what happens when you fill them up with unwilling women rather than ones who genuinely have a religious calling.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2022 10:26 AM (bW8dp)

177 166 My problem with being black pilled is that I am not constitutionally geared toward pessimism. My brain always wants to be optimistic.

It's exhausting telling it to shut up all the time 🙄
Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 07, 2022 10:23 AM (m4xJd)

We're not retreating, we're just advancing in a different direction.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 07, 2022 10:27 AM (eYoxG)

178 What this painting really needs is the fat sweaty hand of an under-medicated imbecile super glued to it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 10:25 AM (9UlRk)
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You know, when these idiots glue themselves in place, why don't I hear that someone started punching them? It's not like they can run away. They could even have a lineup, like for the hysterical lady in "Airplane!"

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:27 AM (AuTCi)

179 Ah. I found the offending tweet.

@robreiner
Dec 6
I don’t just want Raphael Warnock to win. To drive another stake into the heart of MAGA Fascism, I want Raphael Warnock to win HUGE. Georgia, you can do it. VOTE WARNOCK!

I said I want Reiner to choke on a chicken wing.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 07, 2022 10:28 AM (t3/qz)

180 So I glanced at one of the old stand-bys from the Mega-Scandal/Keystone Coup issue on the twatters. His timeline (is that what it's called) had these idiotic boxes in many places with the hilarious nonsense about "experts say there was no evidence of widespread fraud in the 2020 elections" or something like that.

So is that particularly pathetic soft totalitarian/vapid paternalistic crap still going on under Elon?

Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2022 10:28 AM (OTzUX)

181 @robreiner
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You're the fascist, Tubby.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:29 AM (AuTCi)

182 The RNC was not caught flat footed. Warnock's win was what they wanted.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 07, 2022 10:29 AM (t3/qz)

183 > 171 What this painting really needs is the fat sweaty hand of an under-medicated imbecile super glued to it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 10:25 AM (9UlRk)

Did you see the pic of the idiots who superglued themselves to the conductor's stand at a symphony?

They didn't realize that the stand wasn't even attached to the floor. Security just carried them off into the back stage area, along with the stand.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2022 10:29 AM (bW8dp)

184 At least Reiner landed Grace Kelly, so give him that.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:30 AM (SffTi)

185 Oh and it's worth noting that roughly 70% of the population does not see what we see.

Their social media sites, news, and lives are carefully curated to never see anything other than the corporate line.

Posted by: MJ at December 07, 2022 10:30 AM (zwDuR)

186 At least Reiner landed Grace Kelly, so give him that.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:30 AM (SffTi)
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Um...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:30 AM (AuTCi)

187 > 184 At least Reiner landed Grace Kelly, so give him that.

I thought he was banging a Thousand Year Old Man, or was that his dad?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2022 10:31 AM (bW8dp)

188 Great analysis of a wonderful piece of art.On a quick look I would have thought Mary Magdalene was an angel but of course, you're right.

Posted by: LASue at December 07, 2022 10:31 AM (Ed8Zd)

189 185 Oh and it's worth noting that roughly 70% of the population does not see what we see.

Their social media sites, news, and lives are carefully curated to never see anything other than the corporate line.

Posted by: MJ at December 07, 2022 10:30 AM (zwDuR)

You can't elect Fundmentally Serious Leadership when you have a Fundamentally UNSERIOUS Electorate.

Posted by: XTC at December 07, 2022 10:32 AM (UnA8+)

190

The convince of operated by the order of Our Lady of Perpetual Motion were famous for their lay sisters...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at December 07, 2022 10:32 AM (nXbih)

191 Another morning and not a single container ship docked at the Port of Seattle.

Spooky almost.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2022 10:32 AM (k3dI8)

192 I was once pro-life you know.

Posted by: The Reverend Jesse Jackson at December 07, 2022 10:32 AM (PiwSw)

193 Some leftist says MAGA people need to die, I reply that I hope she chokes on a chicken wing. And I am the one who gets suspended.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Set the Earth to fire and reshape it closer to the heart's desire at December 07, 2022 10:21 AM (t3/qz)

Those leftists are on the exact same page as Karl Rove and George Will. Birds of a feather....

Posted by: LASue at December 07, 2022 10:33 AM (Ed8Zd)

194 It would be like a modern cult worshiping Ted Bundy wearing little chair figurines on a chain around their necks.... "Dude, these people are freaking nuts!"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 09:43 AM (9UlRk)

Jesus was not a evil serial killer.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at December 07, 2022 10:33 AM (HabA/)

195 And Genda and Fuchida actually sorta kinda bent their orders when planning the attack. They naturally were most interested in the carriers, and designed the attack accordingly, though of course they happened to be absent on December 7.

And thanks to Fuchida f***ing up his own plan related to the tailoring the attack to whether surprise was achieved or not, and lots of duds in the horizontal bombing ordnance, the damage was less than probably could have been achieved.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2022 10:33 AM (OTzUX)

196 Paragraph the First: Calvary, not Cavalry.

Posted by: SgtBob at December 07, 2022 10:33 AM (by4sp)

197 With Walker and Oz's loss, Trump is starting to smell like a quart of milk left out in the August sun for a few weeks. The bottom line is, Trump has lost us the US Senate with two atrocious picks.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 07, 2022 10:33 AM (pb6ET)

198 And thanks to Fuchida f***ing up his own plan related to the tailoring the attack to whether surprise was achieved or not, and lots of duds in the horizontal bombing ordnance, the damage was less than probably could have been achieved.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2022 10:33 AM (OTzUX)
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And they didn't strike the fleet oil storage or the sub pens.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:35 AM (AuTCi)

199 Did DeSantis endorse Walker?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:35 AM (SffTi)

200 Did DeSantis endorse Walker?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:35 AM (SffTi)
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I believe so.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:36 AM (AuTCi)

201 Georgia got what they voted for.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2022 10:36 AM (k3dI8)

202 196 Paragraph the First: Calvary, not Cavalry.
Posted by: SgtBob at December 07, 2022 10:33 AM (by4sp)

What? You don't see the mounted horde charging up the hill just off frame!?
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Calvary. *sigh*

Posted by: Kris at December 07, 2022 10:37 AM (OyyDO)

203 "Has anyone here seen Risen?"
*
Is that the one that is told kind of like a mystery, with a Roman soldier trying to uncover what happened to Jesus body?

If so, it's a great movie.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 07, 2022


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I need to see it again. Joseph Fiennes plays a Roman centurion or officer who is detailed, unwillingly, to find out who stole the body of the recently executed Galilean. It isn't too darkly lit all the time, and looks gritty, the way ancient Jerusalem and the people would have.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2022 10:37 AM (J2vNu)

204 Great word-painting of the painting, Kris.

Posted by: KT at December 07, 2022 10:38 AM (rrtZS)

205 You know, when these idiots glue themselves in place, why don't I hear that someone started punching them? It's not like they can run away. They could even have a lineup, like for the hysterical lady in "Airplane!"
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:27 AM (AuTCi)
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Someone should have slapped some sense into them a long time ago...in a galaxy far, far away...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 07, 2022 10:39 AM (YIVH2)

206 I need to see it again. Joseph Fiennes plays a Roman centurion or officer who is detailed, unwillingly, to find out who stole the body of the recently executed Galilean. It isn't too darkly lit all the time, and looks gritty, the way ancient Jerusalem and the people would have.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2022 10:37 AM (J2vNu)
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Fun fact: The name of Fiennes's character, Clavius, is Latin for "key".

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:39 AM (AuTCi)

207 At the Bee:

Elmo Dies Of Myocarditis After Receiving COVID Vaccine

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 10:39 AM (iqzch)

208 The kittens are on the dining table.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022


***
That happens at Chez Wolfus every night.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2022 10:39 AM (J2vNu)

209 I think every kid who ever went to Sunday school mixed up “Calvary” and “cavalry.”

I still have to watch out for that, both in writing and in pronunciation.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:40 AM (SffTi)

210 Wait. Carl Reiner was involved with Grace Kelly???? What???

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2022 10:40 AM (J2vNu)

211 What? You don't see the mounted horde charging up the hill just off frame!?



Steiner?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 10:40 AM (iqzch)

212 What MJ and XTC just said, above.

For those who wasted much of their lives actually interested and involved in public policy s**t, it's been decades of poker face and humoring normal people, who typically are marinating in wildly distorted misinformation ("news") and have little background understanding and zero direct experience of the matters in question.

I long ago came up with an analogy for what it's like to be around most people I know, WRT "politics": like an undercover FBI agent at a Klan rally in the 50s. People around you are batshit, but you gotta just play along.

But now? It's somehow even worse.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2022 10:41 AM (OTzUX)

213 Wait. Carl Reiner was involved with Grace Kelly???? What???
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2022 10:40 AM (J2vNu)
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Pretty sure he was making wordplay with Prince *Ranier*.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:41 AM (AuTCi)

214 Did DeSantis endorse Walker?

Did he have a choice?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 07, 2022 10:41 AM (pb6ET)

215 What this painting really needs is the fat sweaty hand of an under-medicated imbecile super glued to it.
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||Two Just Stop Oil protesters have been found guilty of causing criminal damage to a John Constable masterpiece.

Eben Lazarus, 22, and Hannah Hunt, 23, both from Trowbridge, Wiltshire, taped a “dystopian version” of The Hay Wain on to the original artwork on 4 July.

They then glued their hands to its frame in The National Gallery, Westminster Magistrates’ Court heard.||

It wasn't behind glass, yet they decided to carry out the attack, using "low tack tape", that damaged the varnish on the painting but not the medium underneath.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 07, 2022 10:42 AM (Vwz3I)

216 The kittens are on the dining table.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022

***
That happens at Chez Wolfus every night.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2022 10:39 AM (J2vNu)
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Ditto at Chez Squirrel...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 07, 2022 10:42 AM (YIVH2)

217 170 The kittens are on the dining table.


How’s your Chinese restaurant doing, anyway?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:43 AM (SffTi)

218 Calvary. *sigh*
Posted by: Kris at December 07, 2022


***
I remember it by thinking, "The hill was shaped like a skull, and the Latin word for skull was calvarium. Whereas 'cavalry' came from the Vulgar Latin for horse, 'caballus.' "

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2022 10:43 AM (J2vNu)

219 Mt. Vesuvius > Mt. Rainier > Prince Rainier > Carl Reiner > Rob Reiner

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 07, 2022 10:43 AM (Qzn2/)

220

The kittens have a long mustache.

The kittens are against the wall.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at December 07, 2022 10:43 AM (nXbih)

221
Too much maths.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at December 07, 2022 10:43 AM (1hM1d)

222 199 Did DeSantis endorse Walker?

Did he campaign for Walker? Seems like it was mainly Goober Graham and Lyin’ Ted

Posted by: Ex-GOP at December 07, 2022 10:44 AM (YTBIQ)

223 The kittens have a long mustache.

The kittens are against the wall.
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at December 07, 2022


***
The black kitten has lost his lone white whisker.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2022 10:44 AM (J2vNu)

224 Did he campaign for Walker? Seems like it was mainly Goober Graham and Lyin’ Ted

I believe DeSantis appeared in a commercial for Walker.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2022 10:44 AM (ZGrMX)

225 Beautiful painting and very helpful analysis, Kris. Thanks.
I also appreciated the faith related comments from some of the posters!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2022 10:45 AM (vH/6k)

226 Yes, when I first saw “Reiner,” I read it as “Ranier,” so I ran with it.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:45 AM (SffTi)

227 Kris bringing the Quality content again

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at December 07, 2022 10:45 AM (xcxpd)

228 Where is the court reporter?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 07, 2022 10:45 AM (Qzn2/)

229 The kittens are on the dining table.


How’s your Chinese restaurant doing, anyway?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:43 AM (SffTi)
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I would make a clever remark, but I am too chagrined by misspelling "Rainier".

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:46 AM (AuTCi)

230 Not gonna yank that taffy again, but no, the oil storage was not a missed opportunity of great consequence at Pearl Harbor. One, difficult to do much damage with the forces available (that understates the issue actually). Two, work-arounds and recovery from any damage done would not have changed timelines or anything else really.

And the usual other item mentioned are repair facilities/shops etc, not the sub force (which was docked openly, not in shelters of any kind). Same thing applies, perhaps even more strongly. Japanese had a pretty small force to work with, with two waves at most. Meaningful damage to industrial facilities required far more resources then they had there on Dec. 7. They would have barely scratched the surface on the fleet's industrial base even allocating half the resources to it.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2022 10:46 AM (OTzUX)

231 218 So what was the Latin for “horse’s skull?”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:46 AM (SffTi)

232 Carl Reiner was involved with Grace Kelly???? What???
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2022
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Pretty sure he was making wordplay with Prince *Ranier*.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022


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I couldn't believe it. In the mid-Fifties, when Grace was a major movie star, Reiner was just starting his writing career in H'wood. By the time CR was a producer with the likes of The Dick van Dyke Show, Grace was already a princess.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2022 10:47 AM (J2vNu)

233 The kittens are on the dining table.

In my defense, Michael said they taste like dog.

Posted by: Barack Obama, Dog Eater at December 07, 2022 10:47 AM (ZGrMX)

234 So how did Dems steal Georgia? On the face of it, they simply routed R votes into File 13.

Posted by: creeper at December 07, 2022 10:48 AM (cTCuP)

235 > Mt. Vesuvius > Mt. Rainier > Prince Rainier > Carl Reiner > Rob Reiner
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 07, 2022 10:43 AM (Qzn2/)

You forgot Rainier Beer, the preferred brand of PNW alcoholics for generations.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2022 10:48 AM (bW8dp)

236 So how did Dems steal Georgia? On the face of it, they simply routed R votes into File 13.

I don't think we have the data yet, but from what I saw Walker was ahead and then the Dem counties announced enough votes to overwhelm. The same as 2020.

Posted by: Barack Obama, Dog Eater at December 07, 2022 10:49 AM (ZGrMX)

237 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. I'm so late I got nothing but that is an interesting bit o art.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2022 10:49 AM (anj39)

238 Gotta do work stuff. See ya'll tomorrow.

Posted by: Kris at December 07, 2022 10:49 AM (OyyDO)

239 Endorsements rarely mean anything, in-person campaigning rarely changes any outcomes. Endors-ers mostly do it to create chits and IOUs with Endors-ees.

Georgia got what it voted for.

The new-name Trump bashers are as illiterate and fact-free as ever.

Unless of course the universe completely changed in the last few years, and former presidents are a factor in mid-terms - and not the parties/candidates actually on the ballot.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2022 10:50 AM (OTzUX)

240 What about a Calvary Cavalry? They could use a skull as their insignia.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2022 10:50 AM (bW8dp)

241 Mt. Vesuvius > Mt. Rainier > Prince Rainier > Carl Reiner > Rob Reiner
Posted by: Cicero

You forgot Rainier Beer, the preferred brand of PNW alcoholics for generations.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia


Cherry picking the puns?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 10:50 AM (iqzch)

242 Mt. Vesuvius > Mt. Rainier > Prince Rainier > Carl Reiner > Rob Reiner
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 07, 2022 10:43 AM (Qzn2/)

*Yellowstone Caldera enters the chat*

I almost typoed "char" which would make perfect sense.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 07, 2022 10:51 AM (YV6PJ)

243 Calvados. (hic)

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 07, 2022 10:51 AM (F75UF)

244 Painting reminds me of the scene when Khaddaffi was killed.

Sorry, it just does.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 07, 2022 10:52 AM (YV6PJ)

245 Got some calvados I haven't tried yet. Decent stuff, at least priced mid-range, not cheap. Now that the weather's cooled, time to open it up. Also need to get some cheap stuff for cooking.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2022 10:52 AM (OTzUX)

246 Gotta go... that 8" of snow isn't going to blow itself, and Lisa Murkowski isn't anywhere around.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2022 10:52 AM (bW8dp)

247 So how did Dems steal Georgia? On the face of it, they simply routed R votes into File 13.



The devil went down to Georgia
He was looking for an election to steal...

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 10:52 AM (iqzch)

248 vWhat about a Calvary Cavalry? They could use a skull as their insignia.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2022 10:50 AM (bW8dp)
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Been there, done that.

Posted by: The 21st Lancers at December 07, 2022 10:52 AM (AuTCi)

249 Endorsements and campaigning mean jack squat nothing, the simple fact is the Donks banked 250k early "voting" ballots and apparently 1/2 a million ballots decided the runoff wasn't worth their time.

It's a f**king joke.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 07, 2022 10:52 AM (Nb7PT)

250 241 Cherry picking the puns?


Byngo!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 10:53 AM (SffTi)

251 So what was the Latin for “horse’s skull?”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022


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Calvarium caballorum, I'd guess -- "skull of the horse." All those case endings confuse me. Sooner or later the student of Latin realizes that learning it requires learning a hell of a lot of grammar -- aka, "What if your face froze that way?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 07, 2022 10:54 AM (J2vNu)

252 249 Endorsements and campaigning mean jack squat nothing, the simple fact is the Donks banked 250k early "voting" ballots and apparently 1/2 a million ballots decided the runoff wasn't worth their time.

It's a f**king joke.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 07, 2022 10:52 AM (Nb7PT)

We do we keep expecting eligible voters to take their responsibility seriously when they never do?

Posted by: XTC at December 07, 2022 10:54 AM (UnA8+)

253 With Walker and Oz's loss, Trump is starting to smell like a quart of milk left out in the August sun for a few weeks. The bottom line is, Trump has lost us the US Senate with two atrocious picks.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 07, 2022 10:33 AM (pb6ET)

bullshit and you know it. mitch the bitch lost us the senate. his refusal to support and push for both candidate in the election caused oz's loss and the runoff. then his floating the amnesty 2 days before the runoff depressed turnout. along with the total lack of visible support.

mitch wanted to lose the senate rather than have Trump backed candidates provide him a majority in the senate.

but then you know that.

and ANYONE trying to say bad candidate quality will have to explain in very clear language WHY THE FUCK Fetterman the near brain dead drooling fuck nugget was a better candidate.

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 07, 2022 10:56 AM (Mkvkw)

254 Is Golgotha in Hebrew, or similar?

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 07, 2022 10:56 AM (Vwz3I)

255 197 With Walker and Oz's loss, Trump is starting to smell like a quart of milk left out in the August sun for a few weeks. The bottom line is, Trump has lost us the US Senate with two atrocious picks.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 07, 2022 10:33 AM (pb6ET)

Last week, Trump not doing rallies in the runoff for Walker was proof Trump was toxic. This week, Walker losing is proof that Trump is toxic.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 07, 2022 10:58 AM (eYoxG)

256 Is Golgotha in Hebrew, or similar?
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 07, 2022 10:56 AM (Vwz3I)
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That, or Aramaic, I forget. Means "the place of a skull".

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:58 AM (AuTCi)

257 The kittens are on the dining table.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2022 10:25 AM (AuTCi)


Sure, but what kind of mustache does John have?

Posted by: some maquisard at December 07, 2022 10:58 AM (h5TKJ)

258 Thomas Bender, the endorsement thing has always been about different objectives than most seem to think, and has rarely been material to an outcome (esp. in the general), but yeah - a combo of several things seems to have rendered campaigns themselves irrelevant.

The racist-totalitarian-FSA-brain-dead-suburbanite-young&stupid vote is virtually automatic, and now it's "harvested" - or, um, "enhanced" in some cases. Meanwhile the kinds of voters who don't bother to vote for Walker (or Masters, or ....) because their low-info sensibilities are ruffled, or whatever, doom many candidates who aren't useless GOPe.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2022 10:58 AM (OTzUX)

259
Last week, Trump not doing rallies in the runoff for Walker was proof Trump was toxic. This week, Walker losing is proof that Trump is toxic.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 07, 2022 10:58 AM (eYoxG)



He's got a 90+% success rate on endorsements, but yeah. He's cooked. LOL.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 07, 2022 10:58 AM (Zz0t1)

260 So how did Dems steal Georgia? On the face of it, they simply routed R votes into File 13.

I don't think we have the data yet, but from what I saw Walker was ahead and then the Dem counties announced enough votes to overwhelm. The same as 2020.
Posted by: Barack Obama, Dog Eater at December 07, 2022 10:49 AM (ZGrMX)

Atlanta waited to announce the majority of their votes until most "rural" counties had the majority reporting.

just like 2020...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 07, 2022 10:59 AM (Mkvkw)

261 Red Turban, very first thing I thought of when I saw the first idiotic chant along those lines.

Meanwhile, I need to review things, I was under the impression that primary voters chose the candidates. I must have missed something.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2022 10:59 AM (OTzUX)

262 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at December 07, 2022 11:00 AM (Zz0t1)

263 Well, at least we have Murkowski.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 07, 2022 11:01 AM (KMmDq)

264 Last week, Trump not doing rallies in the runoff for Walker was proof Trump was toxic. This week, Walker losing is proof that Trump is toxic.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 07, 2022 10:58 AM (eYoxG)

Exactly. Even our side has become Blame-Trump-for-Everything. The only politician who actually loved our country, and fought for us and our side is super quick to turn on him. He sure wasn't perfect, but anybody who is looking for perfection in a human is a fool. We still haven't noticed how the dems stick together no matter what. It's almost like in unity there is strength or something something.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma Trump is our duly elected president: put his butt back in the White House at December 07, 2022 11:02 AM (l0Cy4)

265 199 Did DeSantis endorse Walker?

Did he campaign for Walker? Seems like it was mainly Goober Graham and Lyin’ Ted
Posted by: Ex-GOP at December 07, 2022 10:44 AM (YTBIQ)

You are arguing with a troll.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2022 11:02 AM (tkR6S)

266 @258

>>because their low-info sensibilities are ruffled, or whatever, doom many candidates who aren't useless GOPe.

I believe a myriad of things are behind our current predicament, chief among them is the simple often stated fact that the GOP, in the main, stopped being a functioning legitimate political party around 2007 and is simply a racket feeding off the scraps and crumbs the Donks and Deep State throw their way.

I don't see a way forward from our current dilemma in the short or long term that doesn't involve a tremendous amout of pain and suffering.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 07, 2022 11:04 AM (Nb7PT)

267 Good morning all. At least my breakfast was good. Great explanation on the art, Kris - muchos gracias.

Posted by: IC - #FJB #MitchTheBitch at December 07, 2022 11:05 AM (mnUzy)

268 260 So how did Dems steal Georgia? On the face of it, they simply routed R votes into File 13.

I don't think we have the data yet, but from what I saw Walker was ahead and then the Dem counties announced enough votes to overwhelm. The same as 2020.
Posted by: Barack Obama, Dog Eater at December 07, 2022 10:49 AM (ZGrMX)

Atlanta waited to announce the majority of their votes until most "rural" counties had the majority reporting.

just like 2020...
Posted by: SturmToddler at December 07, 2022 10:59 AM (Mkvkw)

Counties should be required to report in order of population, Highest First.

Posted by: XTC at December 07, 2022 11:12 AM (UnA8+)

269 "Calvary," Perhaps? Not "cavalry?"...

Posted by: Alexander Scipio at December 07, 2022 11:13 AM (NX5U7)

270 Stop trying to encourage kids to take out student loans to study "art"

Posted by: Paul at December 07, 2022 11:35 AM (xvhup)

271 I have a couple quibbles. Why does Magdelane (is she even a saint?) get a halo but Mary Mother of God does not? I think it's MMOG holding his hand and that's some random woman fainting in the background. Second, I don't think that's a man holding Jesus' rear up, I think it's a very manly woman.

Posted by: docweasel at December 07, 2022 12:15 PM (rtrIx)

272 Fascinating and learned as always, Kris. These posts make me smarter

Posted by: Filly at December 07, 2022 12:30 PM (VB3v2)

273 Thank you for helping us understand this painting.

Posted by: Roland F Hirsch at December 07, 2022 12:56 PM (oMkPq)

274 With all due respect, I see this art quite differently. I its not two groups of five but three separate groups based on purpose. The first group of two are supporting Christ into the tomb. The second group of three is composed of the lady consoling Christ with here male consul grieving her and the male behind him (first born?). The other four maidens on the right are mourners (today we would call them groupies). Notice that in one case they console each other.

Posted by: John at December 07, 2022 04:04 PM (Aqetp)

275 Kris, belated thanks for the excellent analysis. I actually saw this painting THIS AFTERNOON in the Museo Borghese in Rome - truly a masterpiece!

Posted by: Ewffie at December 07, 2022 04:40 PM (yoMBa)

276
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Posted by: Theresa Murray at December 08, 2022 07:27 AM (873lZ)

277 Еverything is very open with a precise explanation of the chɑllenges.

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