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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | "The Twitter Files" Is Being Tweeted Out One Tweet at a Time by Matt TaibbiElon's offer to have me work all Friday night is declined. But here's the link.![]() Although several sources recalled hearing about a "general" warning from federal law enforcement that summer about possible foreign hacks, there's no evidence -- that I've seen -- of any government involvement in the laptop story. In fact, that might have been the problem... The decision was made at the highest levels of the company, but without the knowledge of CEO Jack Dorsey, with former head of legal, policy and trust Vijaya Gadde playing a key role. "They just freelanced it," is how one former employee characterized the decision. "Hacking was the excuse, but within a few hours, pretty much everyone realized that wasn't going to hold. But no one had the guts to reverse it.""Mistakes were made." "Protocols let us down." The FBI, which already had the laptop and knew it was real and likely to leak, already told Twitter to expect Russian hack and "dumps," to prepare them to take just this action. They didn't have to specifically tell them to suppress the laptop -- they'd already prepared the battlespace. This is bullshit. I'm disgusted and done. >>>Ace: your take is the blame is being placed on Twitter and not the police state apparatus?Yes, the FBI is being excused, and it's being claimed that there was just a breakdown at Twitter, rather than deliberate suppression. James Baker, General Counsel at twitter, is a former FBI lawyer who himself was disgraced for his role in Russiagate! He lied about the FISA warrant and helped cover up the fraud perpetrated on the court. And here he is at Twitter advising them to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story! Nothing to see here, folks! From Dr. T: NetChoice, an industry lobbying group, said they quizzed a panel of 9 Republicans and three Democrats on the Judiciary Committee, and said, based on that poll, that Twitter had better damn censor the Hunter Biden laptop story unless they wanted Congress to regulate them: 34. NetChoice lets Twitter know a "blood bath" awaits in upcoming Hill hearings, with members saying it's a "tipping point," complaining tech has "grown so big that they can't even regulate themselves, so government may need to intervene." 35. Szabo reports to Twitter that some Hill figures are characterizing the laptop story as "tech's Access Hollywood moment": ("it's tech's Access Hollywood moment and it has no Hillary to hide behind." Others were more blunt: "tech is screwed and rightfully so.")How many times have I stated that an illegal-but-tolerated monopoly is the government's plaything? BTW -- who were the nine Republican staffers demanding that Twitter censor the Hunter Biden laptop story? Or was that just a corrupt lie? Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Last?
Posted by: Interesting Times at December 02, 2022 07:16 PM (ieN7O) 2
Second to last
Posted by: Heidi at December 02, 2022 07:16 PM (ECHKg) 3
Whelp
Could be more exciting. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 02, 2022 07:17 PM (T8q9e) 4
Tap, tap. Is this on?
Posted by: Heidi at December 02, 2022 07:17 PM (ECHKg) 5
Wait, wut?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 02, 2022 07:17 PM (scHOf) 6
Where is everybody?
Posted by: Peaches at December 02, 2022 07:19 PM (14URa) 7
Top ten
Posted by: Zeera. 'We want fun and we wanna get wasted!' at December 02, 2022 07:19 PM (xsmst) 8
Hiya Heidi !
Posted by: JT at December 02, 2022 07:19 PM (T4tVD) 9
I approve of giving this task to Taibbi.
Posted by: A Concerned Citizen at December 02, 2022 07:19 PM (zcPgo) 10
Somebody more public-minded go back and get the otters.
The commenters' cracks about this process are the highlight so far. Why not just post the links in your own thread, Elon? That was what seemed to be the plan based on his initial announcement. Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2022 07:20 PM (OTzUX) 11
BUT NOTHING EVER WAS GOING TO HAPPEN !?
Posted by: TOLDYOSO at December 02, 2022 07:20 PM (B4U/7) 12
So, what?
Posted by: Just Wondering at December 02, 2022 07:20 PM (scHOf) Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 02, 2022 07:21 PM (CgtKh) 14
This is one of those fabulously complicated stories that in a just world would lead to jail time for everyone involved. But it's so complicated that the average person won't be able to really understand it, nor do they seem to care.
So the end result will be...Nothing. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 02, 2022 07:21 PM (BpYfr) 15
Kevin is a Hollywood poser. But I still like him.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 02, 2022 07:21 PM (geVLo) 16
Well, I guess that means Biden and his entire cabinet are going to resign, yes?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 02, 2022 07:21 PM (rl2lu) Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at December 02, 2022 07:21 PM (Bd6X8) 18
If you use this link you should be able to read them in order.
t.ly/YGMR Posted by: jeannebodine at December 02, 2022 07:21 PM (ddFzi) Posted by: JT at December 02, 2022 07:22 PM (T4tVD) 20
I don't have all night, mkay ?
Posted by: runner at December 02, 2022 07:22 PM (V13WU) 21
Wonder if jackstraw has built an addition onto his house for all the Scotch he is owed
Posted by: TOLDYOUSO at December 02, 2022 07:22 PM (B4U/7) 22
His name sounds familiar, but who is Matt Taibbi ? and what is the purpose of doing this one tweet at a time?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2022 07:22 PM (vH/6k) 23
Andrew Brietbart advocated two things:
1) Never read Ace's content, just go to the comments 2) Release big stories a drip at a time to make it harder for the MFM to respond to them Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2022 07:22 PM (zm+d5) 24
If the MSM ever reports on this, the only thing they'll talk about is how both sides INCLUDING TRUMP!!!! tried to get people banned.
Posted by: 29Victor at December 02, 2022 07:23 PM (BJKQV) 25
(I posted 17-19 at the end of the last thread)
20. This led public policy executive Caroline Strom to send out a polite WTF query [regarding Kayleigh McEnany having her account suspended for mentioning the NY Post's story on the laptop]. Several employees noted that there was tension between the comms/policy teams, who had little/less control over moderation, and the safety/trust teams. Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:23 PM (tp+tP) 26
Why not just post the links in your own thread, Elon?
I suspect the lawyers said there could be trouble. But if the files got "leaked" to a reporter by an "anonymous source", that the information would fall under protected anonymous sources were Taibbi have to deal with legal issues. Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2022 07:23 PM (6Dtba) 27
nothing says desperate like a tweeting queen
Posted by: REDACTED at December 02, 2022 07:23 PM (us2H3) 28
It's one tweet at a time because you are limited to 250 characters, IIRC. Tailibbi is an independent journalist.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 02, 2022 07:24 PM (uz3Px) 29
His name sounds familiar, but who is Matt Taibbi ? and what is the purpose of doing this one tweet at a time?
1) The last honest leftist. Former Rolling Stone investigative reporter. Like Glenn Greenwald, but not crazy and not gay. 2) Twitter limits each post to 280 characters, and Elon promised this would be released on Twitter. Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2022 07:24 PM (zm+d5) 30
Jackstraw is the man. I've never doubted anything he said. I really missed him when he was on hiatus. Posted by: four seasons at December 02, 2022 07:24 PM (ichPI) 31
I hope Matt responds to my comments!
Posted by: jeannebodine at December 02, 2022 07:24 PM (ddFzi) 32
Mitch McConnell will have no response.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 02, 2022 07:24 PM (sVtYq) 33
it's a cover up
Posted by: ace at December 02, 2022 07:24 PM (C1Zwz) Posted by: That guy from spongbob at December 02, 2022 07:24 PM (ESjRY) 35
Jackstraw is the man. I've never doubted anything he said. I really missed him when he was on hiatus.
Posted by: four seasons Hiatus hernia ? Posted by: JT at December 02, 2022 07:25 PM (T4tVD) Posted by: ... at December 02, 2022 07:25 PM (Gqece) 37
21. Strom's note returned the answer that the laptop story had been removed for violation of the company's "hacked materials" policy.
22. Although several sources recalled hearing about a "general" warning from federal law enforcement that summer about possible foreign hacks, there's no evidence - that I've seen - of any government involvement in the laptop story. In fact, that might have been the problem... Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:25 PM (tp+tP) 38
Matt Taibbi is either a controlled opposition gatekeeper (Darren Beattie) or a possibly witting tool of the GRU (Michael Weiss). Fun guy.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 02, 2022 07:25 PM (CgtKh) Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2022 07:25 PM (6Dtba) 40
Will Joey Tapioca dare head to Delaware this weekend?
Posted by: rd at December 02, 2022 07:25 PM (Z32m1) 41
There isn't even a figment of a head-fake of a pro forma attempt at a fig leaf here - Musk said the inside info he found re censorship* would be released, on Twitter itself.
Not a lawyer, but can't imagine that having some other guy actually put the docs/info in his thread instead of Musk's could make an iota of difference in any legal sense. But who cares, just a quibble on my part anyway. My wheelhouse - quibbles. While the country sinks. Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2022 07:25 PM (OTzUX) 42
22 His name sounds familiar, but who is Matt Taibbi ? and what is the purpose of doing this one tweet at a time?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2022 07:22 PM (vH/6k) Taibbi was a leftwing reporter who was a marquee ROLLING STONE writer, among other places, who became disenchanted with the creeping totalitarianism and censorship. Think of Tulsi Gabbard except a writer. Or Glenn Greenwald, a writer. Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 02, 2022 07:25 PM (kJLpK) 43
This is probably how those tv cops feel, searching through a massive landfill for body parts.
Posted by: Peaches at December 02, 2022 07:25 PM (14URa) 44
Andy McCarthy on Jesse Watters just gabbing about the WH party.
Very little to say about Elon's reveal. Loathe him. Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 02, 2022 07:26 PM (ptqGC) 45
When do the FiBIies end up at Matt Taiibi's's place
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2022 07:26 PM (vH/6k) 46
23. The decision was made at the highest levels of the company, but without the knowledge of CEO Jack Dorsey, with former head of legal, policy and trust Vijaya Gadde playing a key role.
Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:26 PM (tp+tP) 47
nothing says desperate like a tweeting queen
Posted by: REDACTED at December 02, 2022 07:23 PM (us2H3) Was that Abba? Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 02, 2022 07:26 PM (eGTCV) 48
I don't get Twitter, can follow along a short bit then get tossed.
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2022 07:27 PM (xhxe8) 49
So the government didn't request the laptop be censored, it was 100% Vajayjay Gadde's op.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2022 07:27 PM (zm+d5) Posted by: REDACTED at December 02, 2022 07:27 PM (us2H3) 51
lol - I got an Alex Jones like about a Reply that "Crackheads are not a protected class. Unless D, of course.", in response to a claim that Taibbi should be charged with a hate crime.
Don't know what to think about that. Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 02, 2022 07:27 PM (hgD8w) 52
This could lead to some hearings.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2022 07:25 PM (6Dtba) Then you'll see! Then you'll all see!!! Posted by: ... at December 02, 2022 07:27 PM (Gqece) 53
I'm counting on all of y'all to tell me what to be outraged at for tomorrow.
* blows soap bubbles * Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2022 07:27 PM (IyrhE) 54
24. "They just freelanced it," is how one former employee characterized the decision. "Hacking was the excuse, but within a few hours, pretty much everyone realized that wasn't going to hold. But no one had the guts to reverse it."
Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:27 PM (tp+tP) 55
in short, Twitter Management took it upon themselves to rig the election in favor of the left. That's actually not very surprising at all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 07:28 PM (r46W7) 56
The thing is, the people who did this profited greatly.
In fact, their intransigence is part of what prompted Musk to buy the company, and any other buyer would have paid much less since they would have required a due diligence. So they all cashed out options and are setting up funds and non-profits to infect their bullshit on what's left of the economy. Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 02, 2022 07:28 PM (EA+Bf) 57
This is probably how those tv cops feel, searching through a massive landfill for body parts.
Posted by: Peaches at December 02, 2022 07:25 PM (14URa) Omg. That just happened here in Savannah. A woman murdered her precious 20 m.o. baby boy and threw him in a dumpster. Thank God, the police were relentless, and finally found the baby's remains (mostly skeletal) in a landfill. Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 02, 2022 07:28 PM (ptqGC) 58
Mitch McConnell will have no response.
..... Disagree. This could lead to some hearings. Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2022 07:25 PM (6Dtba) "We cannot do anything. We don't have a Senate Majority. Even if we did, my good friends Lisa Moocowski and Willard "Rat Faced" Romney would block any actions." Posted by: rd at December 02, 2022 07:28 PM (Z32m1) 59
This is probably how those tv cops feel, searching through a massive landfill for body parts.
Posted by: Peaches at December 02, 2022 07:25 PM (14URa) 😂😂😂 Hello Peaches ! Posted by: runner at December 02, 2022 07:28 PM (V13WU) 60
25. You can see the confusion in the following lengthy exchange, which ends up including Gadde and former Trust and safety chief Yoel Roth. Comms official Trenton Kennedy writes, "I'm struggling to understand the policy basis for marking this as unsafe."
Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:28 PM (tp+tP) 61
ace - what's a cover-up?
Oh, and the asterisk on my last comment, for the word "censorship", was just to pointlessly and fruitlessly note that what a private company does is not "censorship". Unless that private entity colludes with Guvamint, I guess (isn't that the basis of the AG lawsuit?). But this fish-nor-fowl thing with social media companies, publishers or utilities, special protections, should just be sorted out, and people do what they want. Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2022 07:29 PM (OTzUX) 62
"1) The last honest leftist. Former Rolling Stone investigative reporter. Like Glenn Greenwald, but not crazy and not gay."
yeah, he is I guess mostly honest, but still of the left. At least he (it seems) tries to get a more fair story out, but imo, he still needs help from the more informed. But he gets his voice out because he remains mostly "leftist". So he is still kinda "middle ground" and not "red-pilled". Posted by: illiniwek at December 02, 2022 07:29 PM (Cus5s) 63
Ack! They censored tweets 13-15!
Posted by: mikeski I think, from the looks of the tweet between 12 and 16, that he decided to skip them. Posted by: t-bird Yes, I was funnin' on the earlier speculation on the nature of the laptop dump. Posted by: mikeski at December 02, 2022 07:29 PM (P1f+c) Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 02, 2022 07:29 PM (u73oe) 65
But who cares, just a quibble on my part anyway. My wheelhouse - quibbles. While the country sinks.
Posted by: rhomboid *buys rhomboid a MyPersonalFlotationDevice* Posted by: Miklos is noat as bad as they say at December 02, 2022 07:29 PM (NOVDU) 66
Omg. That just happened here in Savannah. A woman murdered her precious 20 m.o. baby boy and threw him in a dumpster. Thank God, the police were relentless, and finally found the baby's remains (mostly skeletal) in a landfill.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 02, 2022 07:28 PM (ptqGC) Yeah, I read about that. Wasn't she busy partying? Reminded me of that Anthony chick in Florida. So sad. Posted by: Peaches at December 02, 2022 07:29 PM (14URa) 67
This could lead to some hearings.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2022 07:25 PM What are we, chopped liver? Posted by: Sternly-Worded Letters at December 02, 2022 07:30 PM (a3Q+t) 68
This is bullshit. I'm disgusted and done.
------- C'mon, Ace! Stick with it for just #twomoreweeks ... Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 07:30 PM (K3TEc) 69
Question. Why do you have to have a doctorate in tooling around on the internet like a jackass with other drooling like-minded idiots to know what the fuck is going on anymore?
"Threadreader?" Oh I know. Because "journalism" is a giant stageplay and you can't rely on a fucking single soul to know the truth AND report things fairly. Posted by: ... at December 02, 2022 07:30 PM (Gqece) 70
It's like listening to an asthmatic reading from War and Peace.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 02, 2022 07:30 PM (+3jTj) 71
I am confused about Elon's goals.
From what I understand, he will be on the hook for any fines from gov. for whatever security or election laws they broke. This seems like a bad idea. Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 02, 2022 07:31 PM (EA+Bf) 72
Threadreader. A placed where comments are arranged on a single page chronologically without any bs.
That idea is just crazy enough to work. I think they were doing it in 1995... Posted by: ... at December 02, 2022 07:31 PM (Gqece) 73
26. By this point "everyone knew this was fucked," said one former employee, but the response was essentially on the side of...continuing to err.
27. Former VP of Global Comms Brandon Borrman asks, "Can we truthfully claim that this is part of the policy?" 28. To which former Deputy General Counsel Jim Baker again seems to advise staying the non-course, because "caution is warranted." Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:31 PM (tp+tP) Posted by: Peaches at December 02, 2022 07:31 PM (14URa) 75
*buys rhomboid a MyPersonalFlotationDevice*
Posted by: Miklos is noat as bad as they say at December 02, 2022 07:29 PM Please tell us you got him the Mae West model. Lie if you must. Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 02, 2022 07:31 PM (a3Q+t) 76
"The FBI, which already had the laptop and knew it was real and likely to leak, already told Twitter to expect Russian hack and "dumps," to prepare them to take just this action. They didn't have to specifically tell them to suppress the laptop -- they'd already prepared the battlespace.
This is bullshit. I'm disgusted and done." Ace: your take is the blame is being placed on Twitter and not the police state apparatus? Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 02, 2022 07:31 PM (kJLpK) Posted by: t-bird at December 02, 2022 07:31 PM (CaJIi) 78
But who cares, just a quibble on my part anyway. My wheelhouse - quibbles. While the country sinks.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2022 07:25 PM (OTzUX) ------ The Trouble With Quibbles. Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 07:31 PM (K3TEc) 79
in short, Twitter Management took it upon themselves to rig the election in favor of the left. That's actually not very surprising at all.
Yeah, they specifically cite trying to prevent 2016 from happening again. Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2022 07:31 PM (zm+d5) 80
The last honest leftist. Former Rolling Stone investigative reporter. Like Glenn Greenwald, but not crazy and not gay."
I think Andy Ngo was kinda lefty, until he was Mugged by Reality. Posted by: Miklos uses the First Amendment here at December 02, 2022 07:31 PM (NOVDU) 81
Yeah, I read about that. Wasn't she busy partying? Reminded me of that Anthony chick in Florida. So sad.
Posted by: Peaches at December 02, 2022 07:29 PM (14URa) Yeah. White trash at its finest. And helloooo, Peaches!! Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 02, 2022 07:32 PM (ptqGC) 82
It's one tweet at a time because you are limited to 250 characters, IIRC. Tailibbi is an independent journalist.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 02, 2022 07:24 PM (uz3Px) I got it one tweet at a time And it didn't cost me a dime You'll know it's me when I come through your town I'm gonna ride around in style I'm gonna drive everybody wild 'Cause I'll have the only one there is around Posted by: Count de Monet at December 02, 2022 07:32 PM (4I/2K) Posted by: jeannebodine at December 02, 2022 07:32 PM (ddFzi) 84
"Deputy General Counsel Jim Baker"
The same who was a corrupt political FBI attorney who exited because of some outlandish stuff in service of the Keystone Coup? Or another guy with the same name? I think the former. Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2022 07:33 PM (OTzUX) 85
Please tell us you got him the Mae West model.
Lie if you must. Posted by: Duncanthrax He'll be happy to see it. Posted by: Miklos notes that girls float right side upere at December 02, 2022 07:33 PM (NOVDU) 86
That's all I've got for now.
Oh, and also, Deputy General Counsel Jim Baker, who justified the policy with his "caution is warranted" comment, was former FBI General Counsel, at the time of the Russia collusion investigation. Of course. Of course. Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:33 PM (tp+tP) 87
Matt Taibbi's thread so far doesn't include any new revelations, that I see.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 02, 2022 07:33 PM (F5ekr) 88
Hi Heidi!
WHERE THE HELL IS BOB?!? Posted by: Duke Lowell Ya mean "The Artist formerly known as Cannibal" ?" Who wishes to be known as Bob ? Guess he's running for office. Posted by: JT at December 02, 2022 07:33 PM (T4tVD) 89
Yep this place is still a Joke
Posted by: TOLDYOUSO at December 02, 2022 07:34 PM (B4U/7) 90
t.ly/YGMR
Posted by: jeannebodine at December 02, 2022 07:32 PM (ddFzi) And it's not some Chinese psy-ops type thing? I've never been a trusting soul and it's only getting worse as time goes by. Posted by: Peaches at December 02, 2022 07:34 PM (14URa) Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 02, 2022 07:34 PM (hgD8w) 92
>>>Ace: your take is the blame is being placed on Twitter and not the police state apparatus?
Yes, the FBI is being excused, and it's being claimed that there was just a breakdown at Twitter, rather than deliberate suppression. James Baker, General Counsel at twitter, is a former FBI lawyer who himself was disgraced for his role in Russiagate! He lied about the FISA warrant! And here he is at Twitter advising them to suppress the story! Nothing to see here, folks! Posted by: ace at December 02, 2022 07:34 PM (C1Zwz) 93
I think Andy Ngo was kinda lefty, until he was Mugged by Reality.
Right. Andy's pretty much the definition of red pilled now. Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2022 07:34 PM (zm+d5) 94
Mistakes were made.
Posted by: ... at December 02, 2022 07:35 PM (Gqece) 95
Miklos !
Posted by: JT at December 02, 2022 07:35 PM (T4tVD) 96
"The FBI, which already had the laptop and knew it was real and likely to leak, already told Twitter to expect Russian hack and "dumps," to prepare them to take just this action. They didn't have to specifically tell them to suppress the laptop -- they'd already prepared the battlespace. This is bullshit. I'm disgusted and done." ace
Not sure what ace is referring to (specifically) as bullshit. yes, BS by FBI to prepare the ground, but give themselves an out that they did not Specifically say the Hunter Laptop was Russkie Disinfo .. but they "as much as" said that, yet give themselves an out in court? and that is always their game .. imply/infer, but use some legal wiggle words to protect themselves. Posted by: illiniwek at December 02, 2022 07:35 PM (Cus5s) 97
So the end result will be...Nothing.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 02, 2022 07:21 PM (BpYfr) If it weren't complicated it would still lead to nothing. Posted by: Ordinary American at December 02, 2022 07:36 PM (H8QX8) 98
29. A fundamental problem with tech companies and content moderation: many people in charge of speech know/care little about speech, and have to be told the basics by outsiders. To wit:
30. In one humorous exchange on day 1, Democratic congressman Ro Khanna reaches out to Gadde to gently suggest she hop on the phone to talk about the "backlash re speech." Khanna was the only Democratic official I could find in the files who expressed concern. Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:36 PM (tp+tP) 99
*buys rhomboid a MyPersonalFlotationDevice*
Posted by: Miklos is noat as bad as they say at December 02, 2022 07:29 PM Please tell us you got him the Mae West model. Lie if you must. Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 02, 2022 07:31 PM (a3Q+t) ------ To be fair, the Tom Nichols model lasts longer and keeps you safer with its shark breastfeeding jellyfish-nipple attachments. /I'm cryin' here ... Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 07:36 PM (K3TEc) 100
49 So the government didn't request the laptop be censored, it was 100% Vajayjay Gadde's op.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2022 07:27 PM (zm+d5) ---- You can't be sure. They had already hinted at Russian hackers. We don't know if anyone at Gov. phoned/messaged Vajajay to suppress it. Posted by: Ciampino - - - Our Gov is all liars & charlatans at December 02, 2022 07:36 PM (qfLjt) 101
Somebody should tell Musk about that Baker character, presto !
Posted by: runner at December 02, 2022 07:36 PM (V13WU) 102
From what I understand, he will be on the hook for any fines from gov. for whatever security or election laws they broke. This seems like a bad idea.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 02, 2022 07:31 PM (EA+Bf) but he's got the Fed's in a fork; they have to ignore what he's saying, because if they make a big deal out of it they'll be emphasizing that Biden's election wasn't legitimate. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 07:36 PM (r46W7) 103
Matt:[17 hours later]
... to which she replied Brazillian mallards do not in fact fart. Which of course reminds me of a time when I was a wee [5 minutes] lad among my chums in the schoolyard playing skip-the-trombo which was a delightful game involving electric toasters and ... Posted by: banana Dream at December 02, 2022 07:36 PM (+3jTj) 104
And it's not some Chinese psy-ops type thing? I've never been a trusting soul and it's only getting worse as time goes by.
** No, it's a link to a specific search on Twitter of Matt's tweets. Posted by: jeannebodine at December 02, 2022 07:37 PM (ddFzi) 105
Jim Baker... former FBI General Counsel, friend of Brookings/Lawfare, and fellow soccer Dad with acquitted DNC fixer Michael Sussman...makes an appearance in his post FBI role Deputy General Counsel of Twitter. Shocker...he thought suppressing the Hunter laptop story was the right thing to do.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 02, 2022 07:37 PM (CgtKh) 106
Ah, maybe that's ace's beef here. Which is warranted. Just think "what did the Durham investigation do?" - as in what were its targets? Don't believe they include/included any actual corrupt politicized government criminals at DOJ, FBI, intel, et al.
So yeah - detailed info on what we could all easily 98% assume re Twitter's heavy-handed and obvious info control policy is kind of interesting I suppose. But the collapse of the national institutions to which this was a downstream element remains essentially untouched, unexplored, and of little interest to anyone, save a handful in the GOP and the few sentient informed citizens actually still present in the country. Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2022 07:37 PM (OTzUX) 107
Posted by: ace at December 02, 2022 07:34 PM (C1Zwz)
That's what I am reading, too. It very well could be true, but I suspect not, and this is why the feds didn't throttle the Musk acquisition of Twitter. Baker's role is just too...coincidental. Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 02, 2022 07:37 PM (kJLpK) Posted by: runner at December 02, 2022 07:37 PM (V13WU) 109
if they make a big deal out of it they'll be emphasizing that Biden's election wasn't legitimate.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 07:36 PM (r46W7) Clearly, they don't give a shit. Same as their voting sheep. Posted by: Peaches at December 02, 2022 07:37 PM (14URa) 110
Related.
Iowa just got f*cked by the Democrat DNC. First Primary is South Carolina, then NV and NH. Next MI and GA. Posted by: rd at December 02, 2022 07:38 PM (Z32m1) 111
What's the difference between Christopher Wray and a mafia Don?
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 02, 2022 07:38 PM (eGTCV) 112
see the post, links about James Baker supplied
Posted by: ace at December 02, 2022 07:38 PM (C1Zwz) 113
31. Gadde replies quickly, immediately diving into the weeds of Twitter policy, unaware Khanna is more worried about the Bill of Rights: "The press secretary's account was not permanently suspended - we requested that she delete the tweet containing material that is in violation of our rules and her account is restricted until she complies."
Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:38 PM (tp+tP) 114
JT
Posted by: *twitterbot* at December 02, 2022 07:39 PM (NOVDU) 115
So I guess tonight we'll go from there was no censorship to there was censorship and it was a GOOD thing.
Posted by: ... at December 02, 2022 07:39 PM (Gqece) 116
97 So the end result will be...Nothing.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 02, 2022 07:21 PM (BpYfr) If it weren't complicated it would still lead to nothing. Posted by: Ordinary American at December 02, 2022 07:36 PM (H8QX We need the Dial of Destiny. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 07:39 PM (r46W7) Posted by: Miklosczyszkiewyszki at December 02, 2022 07:40 PM (NOVDU) 118
Willowed
USC or Utah? I want SC so Michigan can lose to the Pac10 again without being embarrassed by Georgia. Posted by: Jamaica NYC at December 02, 2022 07:19 PM (b+v9B) Screw SC. They only win when they can bring their own refs. I'm already making book on when they get a bullshit PI call next year. Tie breaker is when the non-called roughing the passer is skipped. Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2022 07:40 PM (anj39) Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 07:40 PM (5TmO/) 120
The FBI, which already had the laptop and knew it was real
The FBI, which already had the PDT dossier and knew it was fake Compare and Contrast! Posted by: rhennigantx at December 02, 2022 07:41 PM (BRHaw) 121
The biggest reveal so far is that there's a Democrat in Congress who still cares about the First Amendment.
Posted by: 29Victor at December 02, 2022 07:41 PM (BJKQV) 122
Could this guy move at sloth speed? Just speed it up a little dude.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 02, 2022 07:41 PM (Wy1BU) Posted by: James Clyburn at December 02, 2022 07:41 PM (NOVDU) 124
32. Khanna tries to reroute the conversation to the First Amendment, mention of which is generally hard to find in the files: "A journalist should not be held accountable for the illegal actions of the source unless they actively aided the hack."
Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:41 PM (tp+tP) 125
Good narrative.
Even though the FBI warned of a data dump intended to influence an election we all disregarded that and are working independently to suppress information we all thought harmful to The Party. Right everybody? Totes unscripted. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 02, 2022 07:41 PM (T8q9e) Posted by: runner at December 02, 2022 07:41 PM (V13WU) Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2022 07:42 PM (OTzUX) 128
NEW: Cross-dressing Biden official Sam Brinton, who's charged with stealing a woman's Vera Bradley suitcase
containing clothes that cost over $2,300, is requesting that his preliminary hearings be held remotely due to "financial difficulties" traveling between D.C. and Minnesota. I assumed he had his shot packed last night! Posted by: rhennigantx at December 02, 2022 07:42 PM (BRHaw) 129
or maybe the BullShit part (ace refers to) is Elon did not just give out the documents, he seems to have given Taibbi a look at them and then let Taibbi give an interpretation of what he may (or may not) have seen?
yeah ... not sure why Elon need taibbi. promises made, promises not kept? Posted by: illiniwek at December 02, 2022 07:42 PM (Cus5s) 130
Why be a dirty cop controlled by the mob when you can just be the mob?
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 02, 2022 07:42 PM (eGTCV) 131
My favorite thing about the leftist model of forum control is they just tell you that you violated "the rules" but they rarely tell you which rule and never specifically how it was violated.
The most specific you get now is "don't be an asshole". Which may as well be on the Animal Farm wall. A normal forum such as this one - and this one is very very loose in terms of rules - at least tells you to stop saying the specific thing you're saying and why. Posted by: ... at December 02, 2022 07:42 PM (Gqece) 132
33. Within a day, head of Public Policy Lauren Culbertson receives a ghastly letter/report from Carl Szabo of the research firm NetChoice, which had already polled 12 members of congress – 9 Rs and 3 Democrats, from “the House Judiciary Committee to Rep. Judy Chu’s office.”
Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:42 PM (tp+tP) 133
James Baker, General Counsel at twitter, is a former FBI lawyer who himself was disgraced for his role in Russiagate! He lied about the FISA warrant!
And here he is at Twitter advising them to suppress the story! Nothing to see here, folks! Posted by: ace at December 02, 2022 07:34 PM (C1Zwz) It's a window how their system operates now. They've built a system where they can do all of the nasty, repressive, fascistic shit they want, and none of it violates a single line of black letter law. Because no one "orders" it to be done, it just happens because they're all in the same club and all want the same thing. and that includes the GOP-e. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 07:43 PM (r46W7) 134
Well, back upright, in a chair again for a while. I think the HCQ worked; the bodily aches and pains are much reduced. At this precise moment, I don't feel awful, just real beat.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2022 07:43 PM (tkR6S) 135
Huh. CA CongressCritter Ro Khanna expresses concerns about the First Amendment being violated?
Sounds like he's worth more than 400 of ours -- but WTF is he doing siding with the totalitarian commies who hate and censor free speech? Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 07:43 PM (K3TEc) 136
119 You knew that Elon would get Donald back one way or the other
https://bit.ly/3EVCxcR Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 07:40 PM (5TmO/) ----------------------------------- When I first read that, I was trying to figure out what Trump did to Musk to begin with. Took my brain a few seconds to work it out. Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 02, 2022 07:43 PM (uPgE/) 137
So, I get home from work, open up AoS expecting to see a pyramid of flaming skulls in pudding cups and I get nothing?
Jeepers. That sucks. Posted by: nurse ratched at December 02, 2022 07:43 PM (6zwyf) 138
They polled Congress to rule on a free speech issue? What world is this?
Posted by: 29Victor at December 02, 2022 07:43 PM (BJKQV) 139
*faceplam*
Apparently the title for the upcoming Indiana Jones 5 is "The Dial of Destiny." I doubt Prof. Jones is going to call Felonious von Pantsuit at 3am... Perhaps they will dial M for Murder for this will surely kill off the franchise. Posted by: Anna Puma at December 02, 2022 07:43 PM (B+UAy) 140
127 rhennigantx just now - perfectly put.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2022 07:42 PM (OTzUX) thanks buy me a beer at my watering hole we will call it almost even Posted by: rhennigantx at December 02, 2022 07:43 PM (BRHaw) 141
USC or Utah? I want SC so Michigan can lose to the Pac10 again without being embarrassed by Georgia.
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at December 02, 2022 07:19 PM (b+v9B) USC. Anything to keep 'Bama out of the playoffs. Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:43 PM (tp+tP) 142
Even though the FBI warned of a data dump intended to influence an election we all disregarded that and are working independently to suppress information we all thought harmful to The Party. Right everybody?
The FBI is a lot of things, but "leaving clear evidence that could blow them up later" isn't one of those things. Also, it's eminently believable that San Francisco leftists would act independently to blow up Trump's election. Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2022 07:43 PM (zm+d5) Posted by: illiniwek at December 02, 2022 07:44 PM (Cus5s) 144
Durham put Baker on the stand in the Sussman trial. Baker weaseled around in his testimony, allowed the inference that Sussman was a righteous good American who was only trying to help, and his info wasn't all that anyway. Not what Baker told Durham's team earlier. But Durham's team didn't really press Baker during trial on the inconsistencies. Sussman walked.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 02, 2022 07:44 PM (CgtKh) 145
yeah ... not sure why Elon need taibbi. promises made, promises not kept?
Posted by: illiniwek at December 02, 2022 07:42 PM (Cus5s) Using Taibbi is much better than if Elon just put them all out himself. Taibbi has a well established voice as an independent reporter. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 07:45 PM (r46W7) 146
129 or maybe the BullShit part (ace refers to) is Elon did not just give out the documents, he seems to have given Taibbi a look at them and then let Taibbi give an interpretation of what he may (or may not) have seen?
yeah ... not sure why Elon need taibbi. promises made, promises not kept? Posted by: illiniwek at December 02, 2022 07:42 PM (Cus5s) Of the two, I suspect Taibbi is more reliable than Musk, which is to say Matt is reporting what he is being supplied. People seriously need to think about the risks of social media. Musk seems to be playing along. That may be wrong, but the odds are low. Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 02, 2022 07:45 PM (kJLpK) Posted by: Miklos, a man who Does his Job at December 02, 2022 07:45 PM (NOVDU) 148
Love it or hate it, it's the truth. People are so used to the BS lies they don't know how to react.
Often the truth is boring, that's why people make shit up. Posted by: pawn at December 02, 2022 07:45 PM (wsHtO) 149
What's the difference between Christopher Wray and a mafia Don?"
Probably not Italian? Possibly slightly better looking than most of them? Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2022 07:45 PM (Y5exi) Posted by: Prime Sister at December 02, 2022 07:45 PM (tQL7r) 151
James Baker, General Counsel at twitter, is a former FBI lawyer who himself was disgraced for his role in Russiagate! He lied about the FISA warrant!
And here he is at Twitter advising them to suppress the story! Nothing to see here, folks! Posted by: ace at December 02, 2022 07:34 PM (C1Zwz) I could post the 51 liars AGAIN but I shan't! Never ever ever listen to 1 of them again! Posted by: rhennigantx at December 02, 2022 07:46 PM (BRHaw) 152
34. NetChoice lets Twitter know a “blood bath” awaits in upcoming Hill hearings, with members saying it's a "tipping point," complaining tech has “grown so big that they can’t even regulate themselves, so government may need to intervene.”
35. Szabo reports to Twitter that some Hill figures are characterizing the laptop story as “tech’s Access Hollywood moment”: ("it's tech's Access Hollywood moment and it has no Hillary to hide behind." Others were more blunt: "tech is screwed and rightfully so.") Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:46 PM (tp+tP) 153
In between FBI and Twitter, Baker was at Brookings schmoozing with Ben Wittes and his collection of nubile brunette researchers. Great life.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 02, 2022 07:46 PM (CgtKh) 154
36. Twitter files continued:
"THE FIRST AMENDMENT ISN’T ABSOLUTE” Szabo’s letter contains chilling passages relaying Democratic lawmakers’ attitudes. They want “more” moderation, and as for the Bill of Rights, it's "not absolute" Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:47 PM (tp+tP) 155
Using Taibbi is much better than if Elon just put them all out himself. Taibbi has a well established voice as an independent reporter.
Posted by: Tom Servo I assess this statement as TRUE Posted by: Miklos, formerly Independent reporter (well, Newsweek, but that was then) at December 02, 2022 07:47 PM (NOVDU) 156
There sure have been a lot of James Bakers.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2022 07:47 PM (63Dwl) 157
143 "What's the difference between Christopher Wray and a mafia Don?"
Wray is run by higher powers? Posted by: illiniwek at December 02, 2022 07:44 PM (Cus5s) Wray has the power of Big Govt to kill you! Posted by: rhennigantx at December 02, 2022 07:47 PM (BRHaw) 158
Using Taibbi is much better than if Elon just put them all out himself. Taibbi has a well established voice as an independent reporter.
Taibbi can write the little blurbs telling the story between each screenshot of an email, and he has a decent reputation as an investigative reporter. Musk isn't a writer, and something like this needs the story to link everything up for the LIVs to understand. Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2022 07:48 PM (zm+d5) 159
NEW: Cross-dressing Biden official Sam Brinton, who's charged with stealing a woman's Vera Bradley suitcase
containing clothes that cost over $2,300, is requesting that his preliminary hearings be held remotely due to "financial difficulties" traveling between D.C. and Minnesota. I assumed he had his shot packed last night! Posted by: rhennigantx at December 02, 2022 07:42 PM (BRHaw) ------ "Those child sex slave tranny prostitutes and rescue kennel tranny dogs don't come cheap, you know!" Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 07:48 PM (K3TEc) Posted by: Peaches at December 02, 2022 07:48 PM (14URa) 161
And nothing will happen to anybody because of it.
"But we were right all along!!!" The left: We don't care. Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 02, 2022 07:48 PM (TU8Tj) 162
USC? Y'all are rooting for USC?
FUCK THE TROJANS. WTF is wrong with you people? Really? You're rooting for the University of Spoiled Children? Entitled, pretentious assholes!!! GO UTES! Posted by: nurse ratched at December 02, 2022 07:48 PM (U2p+3) 163
So are the pols threatening Twitter with hearings if they allow the laptop info out - do I have that right?
It seems to say boat sides were angry? Posted by: jeannebodine at December 02, 2022 07:48 PM (ddFzi) 164
If matt doesn't say who the republicans are who wanted speech police then this is bs. Name names.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 02, 2022 07:48 PM (+3jTj) 165
Meanwhile in San Diego, a DDG and an LSD almost have a head-on collision in broad daylight.
https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=134257 Posted by: Anna Puma at December 02, 2022 07:48 PM (B+UAy) 166
What's the difference between Christopher Wray and a mafia Don?
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 02, 2022 07:38 PM (eGTCV) I don't pay for a mafia don's private jet. Posted by: Mark1971 at December 02, 2022 07:48 PM (xPl2J) 167
What Nurse said.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2022 07:49 PM (anj39) 168
It's a window how their system operates now. They've built a system where they can do all of the nasty, repressive, fascistic shit they want, and none of it violates a single line of black letter law. Because no one "orders" it to be done, it just happens because they're all in the same club and all want the same thing. and that includes the GOP-e. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2022 07:43 PM (r46W7) Pretty much textbook fascism. German and Italian corps were more than happy to be...proactive...and anticipate the powers' wishes. Posted by: Russkilitlover at December 02, 2022 07:49 PM (iyVGU) 169
There sure have been a lot of James Bakers.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr But only one Tammy Faye Posted by: Miklos, shedding a mascara tear at December 02, 2022 07:49 PM (NOVDU) 170
154 36. Twitter files continued:
"THE FIRST AMENDMENT ISN’T ABSOLUTE” Szabo’s letter contains chilling passages relaying Democratic lawmakers’ attitudes. They want “more” moderation, and as for the Bill of Rights, it's "not absolute" Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:47 PM (tp+tP) shall Used before a verb in the infinitive to show. Something that will take place or exist in the future. An order, promise, requirement, or obligation. Posted by: rhennigantx at December 02, 2022 07:49 PM (BRHaw) 171
[From Szabo's letter, in Taibbi's Tweet #36:]
The Democrats were in agreement: social media needs to moderate more because they're corrupting democracy and making all "truth" relative. When pushed on how government might insist on that, consistent with the First Amendment, they demurred: "The First Amendment isn't absolute." Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:49 PM (tp+tP) 172
What Tom Servo said. Exactly (IIRC) like the Lois Lerner/IRS scandal (one of the biggest in US history, BTW - though it's hard to really rank them now, given all the truly historic and unprecedented criminality at the top since the affirmative action intern was ushered into the WH by an idiotic electorate).
And it's actually very analogous, so not gonna apologize for bringing You Know Who into yet another discussion - but the Nazis' worst excesses were implemented in a very similar manner - a minimum of written orders, a minimum of "evidence", almost everything done through verbal communications, lots of euphemisms etc. Watch any decent film about the Wannsee Conference and you'll see it - in fact the participants talked much more directly and openly in the breaks, while the minutes of the formal proceedings are nothing but this sort of wink/nod indirect euphemized stuff. Point isn't about comparing the enormity of the misdeeds involved, but a pretty chilling illustration of how even the US government can be hijacked for political and criminal purposes, with almost no way to bring the perps to justice. Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2022 07:49 PM (OTzUX) 173
Ah, Dems are telling Twitter that the 1st amendment isn't ABSOLUTE.
Posted by: jeannebodine at December 02, 2022 07:50 PM (ddFzi) 174
Let's not forget Khanna's concern was the First Amendment as applies to protecting journalists who might report on official lies as if they are the truth.
Is it really that hard, regardless of specific context, to see why a Democrat would want that right protected? WTF we read the phrase "first amendment" and get all slooshy wet and bothered? Are we really that fucking easy? Posted by: ... at December 02, 2022 07:50 PM (Gqece) 175
Brinton needs to be identified as a piece of luggage and introduced to the American Tourister gorilla.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 02, 2022 07:50 PM (B+UAy) 176
>>Using Taibbi is much better than if Elon just put them all out himself. Taibbi has a well established voice as an independent reporter.
And a Trump hater. Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2022 07:50 PM (ZLI7S) 177
Elon is also posting batches of these on qagg, for those of us who use it.
Posted by: t-bird at December 02, 2022 07:50 PM (CaJIi) 178
Meanwhile in San Diego, a DDG and an LSD almost have a head-on collision in broad daylight.
A Duck Duck Go and a Limited Slip Differential? Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2022 07:50 PM (zm+d5) 179
Keep taking the HCQ a few more days then, with vitamin D and C. When my cousin had covid and ran a fever, they treated it with over the counter stuff.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 02, 2022 07:50 PM (uz3Px) 180
Can anyone explain what this post is about?
Posted by: Some Dude at December 02, 2022 07:51 PM (mw8B7) Posted by: ... at December 02, 2022 07:51 PM (Gqece) 182
"What's the difference between Christopher Wray and a mafia Don?"
Wray is run by higher powers? Posted by: illiniwek at December 02, 2022 07:44 PM (Cus5s) Wray has the power of Big Govt to kill you! Posted by: rhennigantx at December 02, 2022 07:47 PM (BRHaw) ------ Mafia Dons have to pay for their own private jets and can't skip out on testifying before Congress? Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 07:51 PM (K3TEc) Posted by: Anna Puma at December 02, 2022 07:52 PM (B+UAy) 184
The question of whether shall means must is the heart of the issue, even when it quite obviously does.
Posted by: ... at December 02, 2022 07:52 PM (Gqece) 185
I'm not all that much interested in the intrigue that was internal to Twatter. I was hoping for more here and so far, no dice.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 02, 2022 07:52 PM (Xrfse) 186
>>>164 If matt doesn't say who the republicans are who wanted speech police then this is bs. Name names.
he's not saying that, it's this lobbyist hack at NetChoice who claimed that. Posted by: ace at December 02, 2022 07:53 PM (C1Zwz) 187
"THE FIRST AMENDMENT ISN’T ABSOLUTE”
Szabo’s letter contains chilling passages relaying Democratic lawmakers’ attitudes. They want “more” moderation, and as for the Bill of Rights, it's "not absolute" Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:47 PM (tp+tP) Ummmm. Yeah. About that. Wanna bet? And I'm not talking about the yelling Fire in the theater bullsh*t. Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2022 07:53 PM (anj39) 188
Meanwhile in San Diego, a DDG and an LSD almost have a head-on collision in broad daylight.
__________ Already been debunked. The video and the audio are not synced. It was a "non-navigational issue" as both warships telegraphed their intentions. Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 02, 2022 07:53 PM (Q4IgG) 189
165 Meanwhile in San Diego, a DDG and an LSD almost have a head-on collision in broad daylight.
Dammit! I just hope they all use the preferred pronouns in any reporting. Posted by: Peaches at December 02, 2022 07:53 PM (14URa) 190
1. Who here did not know the Russia Dossier was fake?
0.0% 2. Who here did not know the Hunter Laptop was real? 0.0% Now think about people you know! Posted by: rhennigantx at December 02, 2022 07:54 PM (BRHaw) 191
I'm not all that much interested in the intrigue that was internal to Twatter. I was hoping for more here and so far, no dice.
Toasting the former Twitter staffers is good for Musk and potentially good for society if it makes it harder for them to get/keep jobs. And we're now getting into the part where Congress is making demands, so Ace may yet get a kill shot. Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2022 07:54 PM (zm+d5) 192
Meanwhile in San Diego, a DDG and an LSD almost have a head-on collision in broad daylight.
https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=134257 Posted by: Anna Puma at December 02, 2022 07:48 PM (B+UAy) Can't they wait for a stop light to put on their lipstick like us driver's do? Amateurs! Posted by: Russkilitlover at December 02, 2022 07:54 PM (iyVGU) Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 07:55 PM (5TmO/) 194
My response to Szabo (the most common Hungarian family name in English Taylor)
https://tinyurl.com/2p8uxbh5 Posted by: Miklos, who met those girls before they got fat and kinda lesbo at December 02, 2022 07:55 PM (NOVDU) 195
180 Can anyone explain what this post is about?
Posted by: Some Dude at December 02, 2022 07:51 PM (mw8B7) I was thinking about the cabin boys needing comforting! Posted by: Capn Ned (Raging Queen) at December 02, 2022 07:55 PM (BRHaw) 196
37. An amazing subplot of the Twitter/Hunter Biden laptop affair was how much was done without the knowledge of CEO Jack Dorsey, and how long it took for the situation to get "unfucked" (as one ex-employee put it) even after Dorsey jumped in.
Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:55 PM (tp+tP) 197
The use of the word "shall" is subject to much legal wrangling.
Do NOT use it in contracts. Much $400/hr legal wrangling, you say... Thanks! Posted by: Lawyers at December 02, 2022 07:56 PM (CaJIi) 198
Peaches!
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 02, 2022 07:56 PM (mw8B7) 199
FYI, the response of the leftists still on Twitter to all this has been to demand to know why Taibbi is cooperating with Trumpers, and to say that Musk is the one who belongs in jail, because reasons.
Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:57 PM (tp+tP) 200
>>> he's not saying that, it's this lobbyist hack at NetChoice who claimed that.
Posted by: ace at December 02, 2022 07:53 PM (C1Zwz) Right, yes. Are you saying that was just a cover for twitter's preferred action? I'm willing to believe that. But I hate unnamed sources. It does dirty twitter's actions on the laptop story more. Posted by: banana Dream at December 02, 2022 07:57 PM (+3jTj) 201
Can anyone explain what this post is about?
Posted by: Some Dude at December 02, 2022 07:51 PM (mw8B7) Something... Something about how we SHALL see bewbs. Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2022 07:57 PM (anj39) 202
And we're now getting into the part where Congress is making demands, so Ace may yet get a kill shot.
I wasn't referring to ace's take on this. Elon's Big Reveal is what has disappointed me so far. Anyway, it would appear that the cafe thread is more important at this point. Sigh. Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 02, 2022 07:58 PM (Xrfse) Posted by: ace at December 02, 2022 07:58 PM (C1Zwz) 204
203 AOC's boyfriend sounds... well.
Posted by: ace at December 02, 2022 07:58 PM (C1Zwz) Did you see the tik tok of her making him talk about how he talks about racism to other white people? Posted by: buzzion at December 02, 2022 08:00 PM (aRLgQ) 205
Okay, so if Twitter leadership decided of their own accord to suppress it with no outside push, how did this decision get coordinated so quickly with every other major player in Social and Traditional media?
Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at December 02, 2022 08:00 PM (Ebr2D) 206
AOC's boyfriend sounds... well.
Posted by: ace at December 02, 2022 07:58 PM (C1Zwz) You shouldn't be able to tell. Posted by: ... at December 02, 2022 08:00 PM (Gqece) 207
Let's not forget Khanna's concern was the First Amendment as applies to protecting journalists who might report on official lies as if they are the truth.
Is it really that hard, regardless of specific context, to see why a Democrat would want that right protected? WTF we read the phrase "first amendment" and get all slooshy wet and bothered? Are we really that fucking easy? Posted by: ... at December 02, 2022 07:50 PM (Gqece) -------- Thanks, wasn't aware of that context. Thought the statement "Khanna tries to reroute the conversation to the First Amendment, mention of which is generally hard to find in the files" reflected poorly on our side not hammering on this -- but I'm not naive enough to assume we're getting the full story here or what our side's responses were. Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 08:00 PM (K3TEc) 208
I would hope we get the names of the Dems who were threatening Twiiter - nice app you got there, be a shame if we had to have hearings.
Posted by: jeannebodine at December 02, 2022 08:00 PM (ddFzi) Posted by: Capn Ned (Raging Queen) at December 02, 2022 08:01 PM (BRHaw) 210
off sox
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 02, 2022 08:01 PM (BRHaw) 211
As some just explained above, this is a window into fascism. R's should be repeating this word constantly when describing the cooperation between government and big tech until its in the public's consciousness.
But seeing how some R's appear to be in on it (hoping to hear names), kinda muddies the message. But it should be said anyway. Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 02, 2022 08:01 PM (fs1hN) 212
The webcams up on Point Loma are great. Usually just check them to confirm weather before going down for a hike or a ride, but you do see some interesting naval stuff as well. Recently a couple of Sea Tractors (tugs, like the orange/yellow one in the photo in the linked story about the incident three days ago) closely hugged a nuke sub, which came in only part way to the harbor. Some stuff was passed from a tug to crewmen on the sub. Then the tugs spun the sub 180 degrees and it proceeded to depart. Video was humorously titled "picking up pizza".
A guy on my crew at the range drove Sea Tractors here for years and has interesting stories. Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2022 08:01 PM (OTzUX) 213
Okay, so if Twitter leadership decided of their own accord to suppress it with no outside push, how did this decision get coordinated so quickly with every other major player in Social and Traditional media?
Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at December 02, 2022 08:00 PM (Ebr2D) The $100,000,000 question........ Posted by: ... at December 02, 2022 08:01 PM (Gqece) 214
"I don't pay for a mafia don's private jet."
well sure, not directly. But the black market world pays no taxes, they deal in drugs (you pay for them via welfare and free healthcare) ... the pay no tax on gambling or hookers (again, you pay via healthcare and welfare) ... Black market is its own nation ... You Pay. (and a lot of cops collect to look the other way, while you pay them as well, to stab you in the back). The globalists and tax free foundations, also, their own nation ... same concept ... tax free means They collect those "taxes" for their Davos parties and DC cocktail influence parties. There are many ways "We the People" are paying as they steal our country, steal our heritage. Posted by: illiniwek at December 02, 2022 08:02 PM (Cus5s) Posted by: runner at December 02, 2022 08:02 PM (V13WU) 216
I bet AOcs boyfreind has put a bat in the bleachers!
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 02, 2022 08:03 PM (BRHaw) 217
I'm not all that much interested in the intrigue that was internal to Twatter. I was hoping for more here and so far, no dice.
Toasting the former Twitter staffers is good for Musk and potentially good for society if it makes it harder for them to get/keep jobs. And we're now getting into the part where Congress is making demands, so Ace may yet get a kill shot. Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2022 07:54 PM (zm+d5) This is mostly underwhelming. I was expecting a bit more rectification of names. Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 02, 2022 08:03 PM (hgD8w) 218
>>> Something... Something about how we SHALL see bewbs.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2022 07:57 PM (anj39) shall, can, or may? Posted by: banana Dream at December 02, 2022 08:03 PM (+3jTj) 219
The use of the word "shall" is subject to much legal wrangling.
Do NOT use it in contracts. Much $400/hr legal wrangling, you say... Thanks! Posted by: Lawyers We shan't Posted by: MiklosLaw, We Fight for US! at December 02, 2022 08:04 PM (NOVDU) 220
Okay, so if Twitter leadership decided of their own accord to suppress it with no outside push, how did this decision get coordinated so quickly with every other major player in Social and Traditional media?
Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at December 02, 2022 08:00 PM (Ebr2D) ------ Maybe it will be revealed sometime this century, but wasn't the expectation and actual past evidence already known going to be the "collusion" smoking guns between the Deep State (FBI/DOJ/etc.) and Twitter in suppressing and labeling as "disinformation" the laptop story? Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 08:04 PM (K3TEc) 221
Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 08:00 PM (K3TEc)
Going by the quote that follows: Khanna tries to reroute the conversation to the First Amendment, mention of which is generally hard to find in the files: "A journalist should not be held accountable for the illegal actions of the source unless they actively aided the hack." TAIBBI called it the First Amendment, which it technically is. And this is how propaganda generally works. We go celebrating a D for caring about the first amendment when all he seems to want to know is "what about the journalists right to repeat a lie and not be blamed"... Posted by: ... at December 02, 2022 08:04 PM (Gqece) 222
211 As some just explained above, this is a window into fascism. R's should be repeating this word constantly when describing the cooperation between government and big tech until its in the public's consciousness.
But seeing how some R's appear to be in on it (hoping to hear names), kinda muddies the message. But it should be said anyway. Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 02, 2022 08:01 PM (fs1hN) Bhussein care is fascism!! Posted by: rhennigantx at December 02, 2022 08:04 PM (BRHaw) 223
Pamela Hensley🎄 @PamelaHensley22 Elon Musk just said, "Being a mom is just as important as any career." Finally somebody speaking up for moms! Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 02, 2022 08:05 PM (5TmO/) 224
But a contract has a date and time.
Shall means forever into the future The gate of Hell Shall not prevail! Posted by: rhennigantx at December 02, 2022 08:07 PM (BRHaw) 225
So the live feed on Hershel at:
9:59 1.551 M 10:03 15.29 M How can you lose votes?? Posted by: Capn Ned (Raging Queen) at December 02, 2022 08:01 PM (BRHaw) -------- Decimal placement error? Was that supposed to be 15.51 M? Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 08:07 PM (K3TEc) 226
Cafe nood.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 02, 2022 08:08 PM (hgD8w) 227
To close out the story, Matt makes the story, "All about ME!"
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/ 1598845423979884544/photo/1 Posted by: rd at December 02, 2022 08:08 PM (Z32m1) 228
This tweet thread is giving me flashbacks to reading Burmashave signs while riding with my grandma.
Posted by: 29Victor at December 02, 2022 08:08 PM (BJKQV) 229
Shall means forever into the future
The gate of Hell Shall not prevail! Posted by: rhennigantx at December 02, 2022 08:07 PM (BRHaw) The question that has been raised is whether the action that follows is voluntary or not. Posted by: ... at December 02, 2022 08:09 PM (BXxcV) 230
Khanna tries to reroute the conversation to the First Amendment, mention of which is generally hard to find in the files: "A journalist should not be held accountable for the illegal actions of the source unless they actively aided the hack."
-------- Yeah, long day, tired, and just skimming -- reading the commentary and not the source. My bad ... Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 08:10 PM (K3TEc) 231
Yeah, long day, tired, and just skimming -- reading the commentary and not the source. My bad ...
Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 08:10 PM (K3TEc) Well it could be me. I'm not charitable in my interpretations of hardly anything. Posted by: ... at December 02, 2022 08:10 PM (BXxcV) 232
38. While reviewing Gadde's emails, I saw a familiar name - my own. Dorsey sent her a copy of my Substack article blasting the incident [With the Hunter Biden Expose, Suppression is a Bigger Scandal Than The Actual Story (10/24/20)]
39. There are multiple instances in the files of Dorsey intervening to question suspensions and other moderation actions, for accounts across the political spectrum. Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 08:11 PM (tp+tP) 233
There should be 3 major undefeated teams and then the Pac10. No also rans this year. The shocker would be the ACC, Clemson
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at December 02, 2022 08:12 PM (b+v9B) 234
Well it could be me. I'm not charitable in my interpretations of hardly anything.
Posted by: ... at December 02, 2022 08:10 PM (BXxcV) --------- It's all good, my friend. It's more important to me WHAT is right rather than WHO is right. Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at December 02, 2022 08:12 PM (K3TEc) 235
Is that the Pamela Hensley from Buck Rogers?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2022 08:14 PM (63Dwl) 236
110 Related.
Iowa just got f*cked by the Democrat DNC. First Primary is South Carolina, then NV and NH. Next MI and GA. Posted by: rd at December 02, 2022 07:38 PM (Z32m1) Good... Now we can shit can that fucking Ethanol boondoggle. Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at December 02, 2022 08:18 PM (CCSxw) 237
Now we can shit can that fucking Ethanol boondoggle.
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard If only. Posted by: MkY at December 02, 2022 08:24 PM (cPGH3) 238
Taibbi's Twitter feed is starting to get wonky - I'm getting "This account has not Tweeted yet" alternating with the actual feed.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 02, 2022 08:25 PM (KCOCK) 239
"Now we can shit can that fucking Ethanol boondoggle."
Do you know of the billions spent to pay farmers to Not Grow Crops, in order to maintain a viable price to keep (a national security interest) adequate supply of Food? And by diverting a little of that Non-Production money to an Energy product (cheaper energy is GOOD) ... we enhance another Vital Security Interest. How can you smart people be so ignorant on these simple thangs? Posted by: illiniwek at December 02, 2022 08:26 PM (Cus5s) 240
"Point isn't about comparing the enormity of the misdeeds involved, but a pretty chilling illustration of how even the US government can be hijacked for political and criminal purposes, with almost no way to bring the perps to justice.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2022 07:49 PM (OTzUX)" GREAT analysis, man, but "hijacked" implies an involuntary, usually temporary situation. We are in a situation where coercion is not necessary, because the State and its leeches are perfectly happy with the arrangement. My guess is the United States remains this way for the duration, which might be a year or two or a century or two. It is totally depressing, but was anyone really surprised by how this shook out? Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 02, 2022 08:27 PM (kJLpK) 241
In the Tabbi thread, both the Republicans and Democrats are angry with Twitter over censoring the NY Post and the Biden Laptop Story.
The Republicans are angry that it was censored. The Democrats are angry that more stuff isn't censored on a regular basis, which made this censoring stand out and (in their minds) prolong the story. Both are screaming at Twitter that they screwed up. Posted by: Seldom at December 02, 2022 08:29 PM (9KZK5) 242
Twitter has this info for months. By dumping it on a Friday night, a month AFTER midterms, Twitter successfully tampered with elections AGAIN.
Elon Musk is not your friend. He never was. Oh yeah, I am suspended from Twitter so have fun friends. Posted by: JBirks at December 02, 2022 08:30 PM (Brwm0) 243
40. The problem with the "hacked materials" ruling, several sources said, was that this normally required an official/law enforcement finding of a hack. But such a finding never appears throughout what one executive describes as a "whirlwind" 24-hour, company-wide mess.
Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 08:33 PM (tp+tP) 244
and if you need more help, read this on your "Free Market Religion" (a JJ link, btw)
https://tinyurl.com/hwsvh88z Posted by: illiniwek at December 02, 2022 08:33 PM (Cus5s) 245
Elon Musk is not your friend. He never was
Umm, since I've never met him, talked to him or chatted with my any electronic means that's hardly a surprise. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2022 08:38 PM (Y5exi) 246
41. It's been a whirlwind 96 hours for me, too. There is much more to come, including answers to questions about issues like shadow-banning, boosting, follower counts, the fate of various individual accounts, and more. These issues are not limited to the political right.
42. Good night, everyone. Thanks to all those who picked up the phone in the last few days. Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 08:38 PM (tp+tP) 247
So, one guy, Matt Taibi, is seeing the originals and is "summarizing" them for the rest of the world.
Yeah, I'm buying into this like its Moses with the tablets Posted by: Jose Jimenez at December 02, 2022 08:38 PM (Tc2CN) 248
Well this means I can do tiktok videos now. They're going to be naughty I promise.
Posted by: Joni Ernst at December 02, 2022 09:05 PM (Y274z) 249
46...with former head of legal, policy and trust Vijaya Gadde playing a key role.
Posted by: Dr. T at December 02, 2022 07:26 PM (tp+tP) And this is why she LOATHES EM; she knows the"gig is up." Nah, who am I kidding. She did loathe EM, but nothing will happen to her Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 02, 2022 09:07 PM (Rbu5d) 250
Elon Musk
@elonmusk · 47s Tune in for Episode 2 of The Twitter Files tomorrow! ____________ BUT BUT BUT NOTHING WILL HAPPEN Posted by: TOLDYOUSO at December 02, 2022 09:24 PM (iDHJr) 251
Rush used to comment about this often.
The ideological bent of all these weasels avoids having to say *the thing* and everyone knows what to do. Like magic. Oh hello Barky and Lois and Eric... Posted by: micky at December 02, 2022 09:29 PM (3byMq) 252
Most of those staffers would be working for a guy whose name rhymes with "Mitt" and "Romney"
Posted by: Deseret Rebel at December 02, 2022 10:17 PM (2QyzO) 253
I guess I'll have to read it all myself. This is all being presented like a kolksy story. I don't want colorful quotes and vague aspersions. I want facts and verifiable information like emails and DMs. That's what I thought this would be. Digital information direct from Twitter servers - who said what to whom, and when
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39 Mitch McConnell will have no response.
..... Disagree. This could lead to some hearings. ------ Not in the Senate. The Dems will have control 51/49, no way Walker is allowed to win. The two Dem "mavericks" aren't gonna find a hill to die on here. Musk would be the target, not the actual participants Posted by: Midnight Rambler at December 03, 2022 03:06 AM (8E8Am) 256
I like how you only have to get to tweet #8 before the government is violating the constitution. "More to review from the Biden team".
Although, I guess I'll refrain from saying it was unconstitution since Biden wasn't, at that time, "The Gov't". But we all know they haven't stopped and I guarantee the government was doing the same thing. ILLEGAL Posted by: deadrody at December 03, 2022 06:53 AM (kYmXc) 257
And then this falls apart on Tweet #21:
"Strom’s note returned the answer that the laptop story had been removed for violation of the company’s “hacked materials” policy:" So right there its time for real journalism. Who provides that answer and based on what ? Instead of digging INTO that, the story spirals away from it. "Sources recall hearing about general warnings". No, that's not how this works. This is coming straight from Musk via the data on the Twitter servers. Exact details. You can redact names when you release information, but Matt Taibi should be sitting in a conference room at Twitter HQ, not spinning a Twitter tale FFS. Posted by: deadrody at December 03, 2022 06:58 AM (kYmXc) 258
And I love this "our investigation" bullshit. The NY Post already DID the fucking investigating, assholes. The fucking nerve of the Twitter nerd jackoffs thinking they could "investigate" something they don't have using their non-existent "investigative power". For fuck sakes.
This is the real crux of the entire social media, tech billionaire, IT nerd idiocy. They're 25 year olds that know one thing - coding. And because they work for a giant social media company with tremendous media influence, they think they're absolute experts at EVERYTHING. And what they know about anything but code is.... NOTHING Posted by: deadrody at December 03, 2022 07:05 AM (kYmXc) 259
Howdy.
Re the nine GOP members of Congress, my take was that they, along with the three Dems, were pissed about the censoring itself. Not so? Posted by: NDH at December 03, 2022 10:39 AM (xNERj) 260
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