Four College Kids Were Brutally Murdered In Idaho But There's No Attack Angle for the Democrat Party So Their Deaths Don't Matter

On November 13, between 3am and 4am, a killer crept into a house and butchered four people with a knife on the campus of the University of Idaho. They victims are not members of Democrat Grievance Group nor was the weapon used a Hate Weapon like a gun so the Corporate Propaganda Press has decided that these murders are Non-Useful.

Oh, also: The murders did not happen in NY, LA, or DC. Just some Flyover Country corpses. No big deal.

The killer is still unknown and at large.

The four victims are Kaylee Goncalves, 21, Madison Mogen, 21, Xana Kernodle, 20, and the only male, Ethan Chapin, 20.

Strangely, there were two other housemates downstairs who did not wake during the murders, and also -- though this is not confirmed -- a dog in the house who did not stir.

The four murdered students were found on the second and third floor of their home, but the two roommates living on the ground floor -- Bethany Funke and Dylan Mortensen -- were spared. It's unclear why the two roommates were not killed and if they slept through the attacks.
Funke and Mortensen had also been out that night and arrived home just after 1 a.m. the morning of the murder. Neither has spoken publicly about the murders, but showed off matching tattoos to commemorate their fallen friends.
It has also emerged that murdered roommate Kaylee Goncalves' dog, Murphy, was at the house when police responded around midday.
However, authorities have not confirmed if they believe the dog was in the house at the time of the murders.
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Authorities do not know who is responsible for the killings, but they have ruled out a slew of suspects, including: Goncalves' ex-boyfriend DeCoeur; the man seen with Goncalves and Mogen at the food truck; the person who drove the two girls home; the surviving two roommates, Mortensen and Funke; the victims themselves, as there is no evidence of a murder-suicide; and the friends summoned to the house by the surviving roommates the morning of Nov. 13.
Rumors circulated that Goncalves had said she had a stalker, but police have been unable to substantiate the claims.
Famed former FBI profiler Jim Clemente told The Post he believes the suspect is a "younger" man and a first-time killer who knew at least one of the victims.
"This is an extremely risky crime for the offender -- unless he knows one or more of the victims, or he's been stalking one of them," he said. "Going into an occupied dwelling with six young adults, any of whom could have a knife or a gun or a cellphone to call the police is extremely risky unless you know the circumstances inside."

The police seem to have nothing to go on, no witness reports, no forensics. Which is leading the media and general public to just start speculating and accusing baselessly.

A third-year law student is being accused of having something to do with the murder, based, it seems, only on him being tagged as being "socially awkward" in televised man-on-the-street media interviews.

Kaylee Goncalves' father has not yet held a funeral or commemoration service for his slain daughter, just out of disgust that the killer might show up.

"My wife's biggest fear, part of the reason we didn't have a funeral, is because she couldn't be guaranteed that that monster was going to not be there," he told ABC News.
He insisted that he still supports and trusts the law enforcement officers who are working the case, despite a lack of results so far and the killer still on the loose.
"I have to assume and hope that this is all part of their plan and ... they've got this all figured out," he told the news network.

That's a really good reason to have a funeral. I wonder if the cops are telling him to hold off on the funeral and make a big deal about not wanting the killer there to make the killer feel like he has to attend.

He says the weapon used -- which I guess is unspecified as to type -- is a "brutal weapon" which left large wounds in its victims. Correction: Oschisms points out the weapon has been ID'd as a Ka-Bar knife. He says that the NY Post -- great conservative paper! -- called the knife an "assault knife" already.

But Mr Goncalves says that his daughter and the other victims died quickly in the attack, which was carried out using a "brutal weapon", that has left the university town on edge.
"Nobody suffered and nobody felt like that kind of pain," added Mr Goncalves.
"The detective said this weapon is probably something (the killer) paid money for and something that they're proud of," he said.

The site of the crime. I assume the rear balcony deck has stairs going to the ground, which allowed the killer to enter the second floor without going through the first floor.

Update: Gref and Long Running Fool point out that there aren't stairs in the back -- because the ground level in the back of the property is at the height of the second level. What I thought was the "second story" is actually the third story.

Pictures and floorplans at the Daily Mail make this more obvious.

The front of the building is built to a lower level to meet the street, but the ground slopes up in the back to climb to the second story.

Horrifying stuff.

But who cares? There's no way to squeeze a point of Democrat political support out of it!

Note: Commenters said that there was a lot of forensic evidence being processed.

Okay, but that kind of evidence does not provide leads, unless you're already In The System. If you've got a clean record, police may pull your prints at a murder site, but they won't find you when they search your prints on VICAP or whatever it's called. If they had something that could provide that kind of lead, we'd probably already know.

The stuff they're getting is confirmatory stuff, stuff you can use to prove the suspect is guilty only after you've identified the suspect. That is, only once you've found a suspect and printed him can you compare his prints to the prints you found in the house.

I think it's pretty clear that, for now, the police have almost nothing.

That's not intended to be an insult. Sometimes a killer just leaves nothing much behind. Sometimes it's not even because he's careful or clever; he just doesn't bleed and leave DNA behind. He gets lucky.

And if he hasn't previously been arrested and fingerprinted, he can leave his prints all over the place and that won't help you find him. They'll help you convict him after you find him, but they won't help you find him in the first place.

Posted by: Ace at 12:07 PM

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1 No idea what's going on with this case.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 30, 2022 12:06 PM (uNylN)

2 Oh and first!

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 30, 2022 12:06 PM (uNylN)

3 Nice first Mr. Scott.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 30, 2022 12:07 PM (53oGX)

4 It's amazing that the media isn't reporting that the killer shouted "This Is MAGA Country!"

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2022 12:07 PM (KCOCK)

5 Hi Ace.
Do you ever take a vacation? I'm headed to Cozumel Saturday.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:07 PM (Y+l9t)

6 Didn't even get to check in downstairs

Supposed to have been other people in the building from what I read

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 30, 2022 12:07 PM (8glaC)

7 "On it."
-Zombie Truman Capote

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 30, 2022 12:08 PM (LvTSG)

8 >>>5 Hi Ace.
Do you ever take a vacation? I'm headed to Cozumel Saturday.

I am hoping to take off Christmas to New Years but I haven't asked the cobs yet. But I might not need them, I might just ask readers to accept that it's going to be week of open threads.

Posted by: ace at November 30, 2022 12:09 PM (C1Zwz)

9
I mean no disrespect to the dead, here - simply noting that Xana Kernodle is a really weird name. It sounds like a Babylon Bee name.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 30, 2022 12:09 PM (oINRc)

10 The dog was silent?

Ah, we need Holmes.

Posted by: JEM at November 30, 2022 12:10 PM (8erNz)

11 Sure, it's "risky", but if you're off your rocker, "risk" isn't really a determining factor in your actions, is it? So it may have literally nothing to do with the psychological profile of the murderer?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 30, 2022 12:10 PM (6FeV1)

12 Oh, also: The murders did not happen in NY, LA, or DC. Just some Flyover Country corpses. No big deal.
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That's probably the biggest factor.

Heavy rain in NYC is national news. Flooding in the Upper Midwest, droughts in the Mississippi are just local stories.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 30, 2022 12:10 PM (t0OGg)

13 I read an article this morning that said there was lots of forensic information being processed and that this small police department has a huge amount of outside help. That the reason they are not releasing information is so the perp does not get a heads up.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:10 PM (Y+l9t)

14 We're on it.

Posted by: Carabinieri at November 30, 2022 12:10 PM (wmDcS)

15 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 30, 2022 12:11 PM (Zz0t1)

16 I find it interesting what the media chooses to obsess over and what it glosses over. Gabby Petito's story was wall-to-wall for weeks.

This?

Feels like a local crime story. Which makes you wonder.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 30, 2022 12:11 PM (KbCG3)

17 Zombie Ted Bundy

Posted by: BignJames at November 30, 2022 12:11 PM (AwYPR)

18 8 I am hoping to take off Christmas to New Years but I haven't asked the cobs yet. But I might not need them, I might just ask readers to accept that it's going to be week of open threads.

Posted by: ace at November 30, 2022 12:09 PM (C1Zwz)

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Finally, we'll be able to talk about Star Trek.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 30, 2022 12:11 PM (LvTSG)

19 Ah, we need Holmes.
Posted by: JEM at November 30, 2022 12:10 PM (8erNz)

She's in jail, though, so....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 30, 2022 12:11 PM (6FeV1)

20 I mean no disrespect to the dead, here - simply noting that Xana Kernodle is a really weird name. It sounds like a Babylon Bee name.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 30, 2022 12:09 PM (oINRc)

Spanish, I believe. Might be an immigrant student, or a foreign student.

Posted by: Carabinieri at November 30, 2022 12:12 PM (wmDcS)

21 I am hoping to take off Christmas to New Years but I haven't asked the cobs yet. But I might not need them, I might just ask readers to accept that it's going to be week of open threads.

Posted by: ace at November 30, 2022 12:09 PM (C1Zwz)

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Finally, we'll be able to talk about Star Trek.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Prometheus & gun threads.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 12:12 PM (aKxz7)

22 Ace, you should definitely take the break. It would also help the many addicted here to make take a walk outside.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:12 PM (Y+l9t)

23 The dog did nothing in the nighttime? Curious.

Posted by: S. Holmes at November 30, 2022 12:12 PM (bFu5X)

24 Funke and Mortensen had also been out that night and arrived home just after 1 a.m. the morning of the murder. Neither has spoken publicly about the murders, but showed off matching tattoos to commemorate their fallen friends.

Because that's what you do when your friends are brutally murdered while you sleep. You go get matching tattoos.

We're so fucked......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 30, 2022 12:12 PM (Zz0t1)

25 What did those four kids have on Hillary?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 30, 2022 12:12 PM (atmen)

26 11 Sure, it's "risky", but if you're off your rocker, "risk" isn't really a determining factor in your actions, is it? So it may have literally nothing to do with the psychological profile of the murderer?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 30, 2022 12:10 PM (6FeV1)

I think except for serial killers, who can be meticulous and target people they're not particularly familiar with, a clean getaway like this does suggest someone who knows their target well.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 30, 2022 12:12 PM (eYoxG)

27 a dog in the house who did not stir.
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You know what that means...

Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at November 30, 2022 12:12 PM (Vwz3I)

28
Eh, I kinda wish they didn't report much on any of these stories, unless there's a public reason involved. An official who committed murder, a killer on the loose, etc.

I don't see how it serves much purpose, and it upsets my wife.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 30, 2022 12:12 PM (oINRc)

29 Horrifying stuff.

But who cares? There's no way to squeeze a point of Democrat political support out of it!
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Eh, they probably could. Three of the victims were women and since it was a physical, bloody murder spree the odds are extremely good that the perpetrator is a male. They could go with that, I guess. But it's flyover country and there's no obvious play and there's something in NY or CA that I am sure they find much more worthy of coverage...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 30, 2022 12:13 PM (t0OGg)

30 Lock your doors and windows

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 30, 2022 12:13 PM (YglAn)

31 However, authorities have not confirmed if they believe the dog was in the house at the time of the murders.
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He refuses to speak.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 30, 2022 12:13 PM (Vwz3I)

32 Prometheus & gun threads.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 12:12 PM

Cruel.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 30, 2022 12:13 PM (bFu5X)

33 Dead guy was living with five pretty young women. that alone should be stirring lots of conversation and interest.

Posted by: Ripley at November 30, 2022 12:13 PM (MxEKc)

34 I am hoping to take off Christmas to New Years but I haven't asked the cobs yet. But I might not need them, I might just ask readers to accept that it's going to be week of open threads.

Posted by: ace at November 30, 2022 12:09 PM (C1Zwz)

Taking vacation time is important for everyone, you tend to be a machine about posting. I hope you have a good time and get to go somewhere warm.

Don't get a sunburn on your perineum. Sunblock is your friend.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2022 12:13 PM (xhaym)

35 The truth is that I generally ignore stories like this, not because I don't care, but because there is nothing I can do about it, and either the truth will come out eventually or it won't. In the meantime, why turn myself inside out?

I think a large part of the anxiety that pervades modern life comes from the obsessive need to monitor and take personally every bad thing that happens in the world. Protip: there will always be bad things happening in the world.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:14 PM (eOEVl)

36 That story is heart breaking for anyone who is a parent of kid who lives on a college campus, or anyone of kids that age.

The brother of RS McCain thinks it's a serial killer:

https://tinyurl.com/2fmd595k

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 30, 2022 12:14 PM (vH/6k)

37 23 The dog did nothing in the nighttime? Curious.
Posted by: S. Holmes at November 30, 2022 12:12 PM (bFu5X)

Without details on the dog this means nothing.
My dog probably wouldn't even get out of bed.

Also, college house, do we know the downstairs had access to upstairs? Looks like upstairs had it's own access.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 30, 2022 12:15 PM (53oGX)

38 33 Dead guy was living with five pretty young women. that alone should be stirring lots of conversation and interest.
Posted by: Ripley at November 30, 2022 12:13 PM (MxEKc)

Could be a token gay guy.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 30, 2022 12:15 PM (eYoxG)

39 What a fucking mess.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 30, 2022 12:15 PM (y3pg4)

40 Afternoon.

It was aliens.

Posted by: Robert - Metallica, 72 Seasons, out 4/14 at November 30, 2022 12:15 PM (MBJhv)

41 "Because that's what you do when your friends are brutally murdered while you sleep. You go get matching tattoos.

We're so fucked......"

This really stands out...I would actually add them to the suspect list for this...maybe they are on it. Almost seems like some satanic human sacrifice thing.

Posted by: DaveX64 - AWFLs smell like dryer sheets at November 30, 2022 12:15 PM (QrFBC)

42 =========

Finally, we'll be able to talk about Star Trek.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Prometheus & gun threads.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 12:12 PM (aKxz7)

And boobs.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 30, 2022 12:15 PM (Zz0t1)

43 @13 I read an article this morning that said there was lots of forensic information being processed and that this small police department has a huge amount of outside help. That the reason they are not releasing information is so the perp does not get a heads up.

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Hopefully that's the case. Whoever did this deserves to spend the rest of his or her life behind bars.

Though hopefully the FBI Crime Lab isn't one of the organizations providing assistance (and I hate that I feel a need to say that).

Posted by: junior at November 30, 2022 12:15 PM (PTw5h)

44 Sherlock Holmes action, ace.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Laptop, Doomscroller at November 30, 2022 12:16 PM (CwQXo)

45 Just go away, Ace! Go away! Meant in the nicest possible way. It's good to take a break and we people here could talk on open threads till the cows come home.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 30, 2022 12:16 PM (vH/6k)

46 The local police have been very professional. Methinks they are sitting on some information that could lead them to the killer. These aren't the self serving blabbermouths you get in many big cities.

Posted by: Marcus T, Byron Donalds for Speaker at November 30, 2022 12:16 PM (vBMpQ)

47 There is definitely more to this story. This was clearly a targeted attack by someone -- or more than one person -- who knew what they were doing.

I mean, not even the DOG was woken up by the brutal stabbing of four people in a small home?? Nobody screamed?? Nobody struggled?? Basically four college kids were hacked up and nobody saw or heard anything, and the killer(s) left no trace. Seems highly odd to me.

Oh and fwiw, the girls were attractive, blond-haired sorority types.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 30, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)

48 22 Ace, you should definitely take the break. It would also help the many addicted here to make take a walk outside.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:12 PM (Y+l9t)

pfffft... I can go outside anytime I want...
really...

I'll do it...

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 30, 2022 12:16 PM (53oGX)

49 Hopefully that's the case. Whoever did this deserves to spend the rest of his or her life behind bars.

As long as the bars are red hot and buried 6' down, I agree.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:16 PM (eOEVl)

50 I'm headed to Charleston between Christmas and New Years. Never been so looking forward to it. Years ago, BC( before children) used to go to Key West. Great place to recharge and always felt low key. Small local restaurants, sunset every night. Rode a bike for transport.
Wonder if it's changed a lot.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:16 PM (Y+l9t)

51 I am hoping to take off Christmas to New Years but I haven't asked the cobs yet. But I might not need them, I might just ask readers to accept that it's going to be week of open threads.

Posted by: ace

Colloquially known as 'the inmates running the asylum'?

Posted by: JEM at November 30, 2022 12:17 PM (8erNz)

52 49 Hopefully that's the case. Whoever did this deserves to spend the rest of his or her life behind bars.

As long as the bars are red hot and buried 6' down, I agree.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:16 PM (eOEVl)

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How is he going to become his best self then?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood at November 30, 2022 12:17 PM (LvTSG)

53 I can only offer this baseless speculation:

During the Trump years, an immigrant imported to work at the Chobani yogurt plant in Twin Falls, ID committed a violent crime and the media did all they could to hide it. You know, because it was right around the horror of the Muslim ban ....

So, I would say, it's what they are not saying that is important.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 30, 2022 12:17 PM (FW8wW)

54 Ace, you should definitely take the break. It would also help the many addicted here to make take a walk outside.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)

Its raining out there !

Posted by: JT at November 30, 2022 12:17 PM (T4tVD)

55 Which Holmes story is the dog in the nighttime from?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 30, 2022 12:17 PM (atmen)

56 I mean, not even the DOG was woken up by the brutal stabbing of four people in a small home?? Nobody screamed?? Nobody struggled?? Basically four college kids were hacked up and nobody saw or heard anything, and the killer(s) left no trace. Seems highly odd to me.

Kinda sounds like the Ted Bundy MO.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:17 PM (eOEVl)

57 Wonder if it's changed a lot.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:16 PM (Y+l9t)

It's full of gays.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 30, 2022 12:17 PM (UuD2k)

58 Have fun and stay safe Ace !

Posted by: JT at November 30, 2022 12:17 PM (T4tVD)

59 IT'S THE DOG THAT DIDN'T BARK

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 30, 2022 12:18 PM (iFTx/)

60 Oh don't worry the NY Post (bought and paid for by Bloomberg) has already called the Ka-Bar an "assult knife."

Posted by: Oschisms at November 30, 2022 12:18 PM (0A5+1)

61 " Which Holmes story is the dog in the nighttime from?"

Silver Blaze I think.

Posted by: DaveX64 - AWFLs smell like dryer sheets at November 30, 2022 12:18 PM (QrFBC)

62 I mean this in the nicest possible way, ace: go touch grass

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at November 30, 2022 12:18 PM (0D0Oa)

63 Sponge, you get to talk about boobs all the time.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:18 PM (Y+l9t)

64 55 Which Holmes story is the dog in the nighttime from?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 30, 2022 12:17 PM (atmen)
___________________

Silver Blaze

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 30, 2022 12:19 PM (iFTx/)

65 @16 I find it interesting what the media chooses to obsess over and what it glosses over. Gabby Petito's story was wall-to-wall for weeks.

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When Kermit Gosnell was standing trial and being ignored by the media outlets, we had wall to wall media coverage of some young woman who murdered her boyfriend. Jodi Arias, I think her name was? I ignored the articles about her at the time (the name meant nothing to me). But I remembered seeing the headlines all over the place, and years later finally got curious enough to check out the story. It was so unimportant of a thing on anything beyond a local scale that the only rationale for running the story that makes sense is that the news media knew that they had to find something to distract from Gosnell.

Posted by: junior at November 30, 2022 12:19 PM (PTw5h)

66 IT'S THE DOG THAT DIDN'T BARK
Posted by: Elric Blade

Basenjis.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 12:19 PM (aKxz7)

67 19 Ah, we need Holmes.
Posted by: JEM at November 30, 2022 12:10 PM (8erNz)

She's in jail, though, so....
Posted by: Warai-otoko

On one hand, cheap shot.

On the other, I left myself open for it.

Posted by: JEM at November 30, 2022 12:19 PM (8erNz)

68 According to Bill Warner, a detective in Florida, these murders - as well as two others - are the work of a Ted Bundy copycat. This supposed copycat killed in Washington, then Oregon, then Idaho - just like Bundy..

So said The Sun on the 27th, so take that for what it's worth.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 30, 2022 12:19 PM (OBacQ)

69 I mean, not even the DOG was woken up by the brutal stabbing of four people in a small home?? Nobody screamed?? Nobody struggled?? Basically four college kids were hacked up and nobody saw or heard anything, and the killer(s) left no trace. Seems highly odd to me.

Oh and fwiw, the girls were attractive, blond-haired sorority types.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 30, 2022 12:16 PM

Gonna go out on a limb and guess there was alcohol involved before they went to sleep and got murdered. People who have been drinking tend to be very heavy sleepers. I don't know that for certain, it's just a guess.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 30, 2022 12:19 PM (uNylN)

70 Wonder if it's changed a lot.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:16 PM (Y+l9t)

It's full of gays.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Nuts to butts ?

Posted by: JT at November 30, 2022 12:19 PM (T4tVD)

71 The assault knife column:

https://tinyurl.com/ye25693x

Posted by: Oschisms at November 30, 2022 12:19 PM (0A5+1)

72 He refuses to speak.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 30, 2022 12:13 PM (Vwz3I)

Basenji?

Posted by: BignJames at November 30, 2022 12:19 PM (AwYPR)

73 I read about this crime here a few days ago. Seems there were some pets killed and horribly mutilated in the same general area. That has "serial killer" written all over it.

I am at my place in Arizona now, and just got an Internet hookup ten minutes ago. My previous provider screwed up big time.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2022 12:19 PM (tkR6S)

74 I'm headed to Charleston between Christmas and New Years. Never been so looking forward to it. Years ago, BC( before children) used to go to Key West. Great place to recharge and always felt low key. Small local restaurants, sunset every night. Rode a bike for transport.
Wonder if it's changed a lot.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:16 PM

I haven't been to Charleston in too many years, but I really did enjoy it. Have fun!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 30, 2022 12:19 PM (bFu5X)

75 Just how far away can Ace go on a Vespa?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 30, 2022 12:20 PM (atmen)

76 For those turned off by the Hounds of the Baskervilles wordiness... from the Sherlock Holmes story “Silver Blaze”:

“I refer you to the curious incident of the dog in the nighttime.”

“The dog did nothing in the nighttime.”

“That was the curious incident.”

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 30, 2022 12:20 PM (Vwz3I)

77
Gonna go out on a limb and guess there was alcohol involved before they went to sleep and got murdered. People who have been drinking tend to be very heavy sleepers. I don't know that for certain, it's just a guess.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 30, 2022 12:19 PM (uNylN)

Even the dog? Nope.

Posted by: CN at November 30, 2022 12:20 PM (Zzbjj)

78 The GOPe strikes again!

NEWS: John Thune, the No. 2 Senate GOP leader, says in interview Senate Repubs want to leverage the next US debt limit increase to force federal spending cuts and changes to Social Security and other entitlement programs.

The GOPe - party of corporate tax cuts, deficit reduction, and now gutting Social Security.

Remember when the Democrats accused the Republicans of wanting to gut Social Security before the election, and conservatives said that was a lie? Ha-ha - good times, suckers!

Watch - they're going to "means test" Social Security, thereby screwing every Social Security recipient who was stupid enough to try and save for retirement.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2022 12:20 PM (KCOCK)

79 Palate cleanser: if you were on the art thread, a video on Caravaggio's life was mentioned. It may already have been posted, but if not, here it is again. The video is well worth the time.

https://tinyurl.com/mxzuyhet

Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:20 PM (eOEVl)

80 "Systems of White Privilege" means that bad things don't happen to white people.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 30, 2022 12:20 PM (BJKQV)

81 >>> I mean no disrespect to the dead, here - simply noting that Xana Kernodle is a really weird name. It sounds like a Babylon Bee name.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 30, 2022 12:09 PM (oINRc)

It looks like both very Gallic in origin and modern use. Xana is more associated with Spanish Austrians. While Kernodle is Irish.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2022 12:20 PM (+3jTj)

82 Gonna go out on a limb and guess there was alcohol involved before they went to sleep and got murdered. People who have been drinking tend to be very heavy sleepers. I don't know that for certain, it's just a guess.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 30, 2022 12:19 PM (uNylN)
____________________

I agree, but was the dog also drunk?

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 30, 2022 12:20 PM (iFTx/)

83 Weird crime in such that they can't get any leads. I assume they have DNA from the house unless the killer was incredibly careful.

But DNA is only useful if the person is already in the national database or is in custody.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 30, 2022 12:20 PM (I76dP)

84 Clearly the fibbies give zero fucks about white kids. No political hay to be made.

Posted by: CN at November 30, 2022 12:20 PM (Zzbjj)

85 ace, definitely get away. Not even a question. But at least share some hints of your vacation after the fact (where, what you did).

I think it's a great time (exchange-rate-wise) to visit Europe or Japan, though that first option might involve taking some polypro long underwear and winter gear for your un/under-heated room (Pootin!!!).

Can heartily reco Japan during the holidays. A time when Japan's quirky, weird, but wonderful fusion of adopted cultural stuff is on its best display. Amazing holiday decorations. Fantastic Christmas-themed goodies in the fantastic food courts at department stores. Christmas dinner at KFC! (but you'd better get your reservations in now).

And - no knife murders. And no street crime, really. Unfailing politeness verging on solicitousness for gaijin strangers, in most situations. Damn, up in Hokkaido it'd even be a winter wonderland sort of deal, I imagine, snow and the rest of it.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 30, 2022 12:20 PM (OTzUX)

86 Check out the eyes - Middle Top Window. Blow up the pic.

Cat's eyes?

Posted by: yeah okay - qualifier at November 30, 2022 12:21 PM (3ncNg)

87 That house is similar to a ranch. You can sleep through the apocalypse in the basement I bet and never hear a thing. The dog not noticing anything is really weird though. It probably made the LEOs investigating think the killer knew his victims,

Posted by: Catherine at November 30, 2022 12:21 PM (ZSsrh)

88 Sponge, you get to talk about boobs all the time.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:18 PM (Y+l9t)

Well, not ALL the time......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 30, 2022 12:21 PM (Zz0t1)

89 But who cares? There's no way to squeeze a point of Democrat political support out of it!

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Well, F. Joe has declared, multiple times now, that it's stochastic open season on State-approved victims (and with no bag limit!) ... so State-sanctioned murderers have that going for them.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 30, 2022 12:21 PM (pTZA2)

90 See? See what happens when you owe money for your party drugs and don't pay?

Who you trying to get crazy with ése?
Don't you know I'm loco?

Posted by: MS-13 Door Dash Fentanyl Delivery Man at November 30, 2022 12:21 PM (0ZEfs)

91 You know who else liked to kill people in their sleep...

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 30, 2022 12:22 PM (flINI)

92 Remember when the Democrats accused the Republicans of wanting to gut Social Security before the election, and conservatives said that was a lie? Ha-ha - good times, suckers!

Watch - they're going to "means test" Social Security, thereby screwing every Social Security recipient who was stupid enough to try and save for retirement.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2022 12:20 PM (KCOCK)

I have zero expectation of ever seeing a SS check.
It pains me principally, for sure.. but I also live in reality. If I ever do see a check the amount on it won't be worth the paper printed upon.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 30, 2022 12:22 PM (53oGX)

93 >>He says the weapon used -- which I guess is unspecified as to type -- is a "brutal weapon" which left large wounds in its victims.

Must have been akin too a Klingon War Knife.

Poor kids.

I really hope they catch this SOB.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 30, 2022 12:22 PM (z4WDg)

94 Wonder if it's changed a lot.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:16 PM (Y+l9t)

Charleston ain't what it was in 1986. Lived there right out of college.

Posted by: Golfman at November 30, 2022 12:22 PM (QSzXB)

95 56 I mean, not even the DOG was woken up by the brutal stabbing of four people in a small home?? Nobody screamed?? Nobody struggled?? Basically four college kids were hacked up and nobody saw or heard anything, and the killer(s) left no trace. Seems highly odd to me.

Kinda sounds like the Ted Bundy MO.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:17 PM (eOEVl)

Maury Terry was a journalist who posited that Ted Bundy was one of a bunch of serial killers connected too the Process Church and a fall guy for the rest.

The book is "The Ultimate Evil."

Posted by: Oschisms at November 30, 2022 12:22 PM (0A5+1)

96 This was obviously Trump's fault

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 30, 2022 12:22 PM (iFTx/)

97 Key West has always had gays and hippies and divers and other malcontents. You know, kind like us. I always felt at home there. Also sunshine, warm ocean even in December.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:22 PM (Y+l9t)

98 It probably made the LEOs investigating think the killer knew his victims,
Posted by: Catherine at November 30, 2022 12:21 PM (ZSsrh)

Must have had friends that would not make proper newsworthy suspects.

Posted by: CN at November 30, 2022 12:22 PM (Zzbjj)

99 My God what a horrible tragedy.
One bit of good has come from it: Ethan Chapin was a member of the Sigma Chi Fraternity. Hundreds of Sigs, starting there in Moscow and across the border in Pullman at Washington State University, and now from around the country have started a scholarship fund in Ethan's name. To date, over $45k has been raised.
I have also read that at least one of the girl's families has also started a scholarship fund.
Some may say too little too late, but family members say it is a wonderful expression of support to know people from across the country are holding them up in prayer.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2022 12:22 PM (anj39)

100 Clearly the fibbies give zero fucks about white kids. No political hay to be made.
Posted by: CN at November 30, 2022 12:20 PM (Zzbjj)

"Duuuuuude, was that us? I didn't see it on the whiteboard. "
"No, Zach, relax. "

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 30, 2022 12:22 PM (6FeV1)

101 Basenji?
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Not Sandy anyway.
arf arf

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 30, 2022 12:22 PM (Vwz3I)

102 Could be a token gay guy.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 30, 2022 12:15 PM

That's my theory: killer is a former/spurned gay lover who probably blames the female roomies for being in former/spurned status.

Posted by: Bert G at November 30, 2022 12:22 PM (aCgRi)

103 "The detective said this weapon is probably something (the killer) paid money for and something that they're proud of," he said.

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Now I want one.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 30, 2022 12:22 PM (FVME7)

104 I watched the interview just now.

Who was called to the scene before police? I haven't been paying attention to this case.

I liked his advice to get those cheap IR sensor chimes and put them both outside and inside so you're forewarned and not fast asleep if someone comes in. I also like that he advised getting a weapon if you're legally allowed.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 30, 2022 12:23 PM (eyxn4)

105 >>> Ace, you should definitely take the break. It would also help the many addicted here to make take a walk outside.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)

Its raining out there !
Posted by: JT at November 30, 2022 12:17 PM (T4tVD)

Baby it's cold outside

Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2022 12:23 PM (+3jTj)

106 "Nobody screamed?? Nobody struggled?? Basically four college kids were hacked up and nobody saw or heard anything, and the killer(s) left no trace. Seems highly odd to me.

Posted by: Archimedes "

I believe the murders happened on a Friday night and they could have been in a drunken stupor. In which case the killer might have been a party/bar and seen them drinking heavily.

Posted by: Ripley at November 30, 2022 12:23 PM (MxEKc)

107 he dog not noticing anything is really weird though. It probably made the LEOs investigating think the killer knew his victims,

That would make sense. I assume LE has already tested the dog for tranqs.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:23 PM (eOEVl)

108 Should have come out as trans if they didn't want a Democrat to murder them.

Posted by: XTC at November 30, 2022 12:24 PM (UnA8+)

109 It looks like both very Gallic in origin and modern use. Xana is more associated with Spanish Austrians. While Kernodle is Irish.

The article says her sister is "Jazzmin", so I doubt her parents were looking into the Hapsburg family tree for names.

Posted by: spindrift at November 30, 2022 12:24 PM (h5TKJ)

110 Matching tattoos on the survivors?

Sorry, but that is a little too self-absorbed for me.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 30, 2022 12:24 PM (XIJ/X)

111 The brother of RS McCain thinks it's a serial killer:

https://tinyurl.com/2fmd595k
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 30, 2022 12:14 PM (vH/6k)

Probably. Not sure why they say this is a first time for the killer. Lots of these people are sloppy as part of their m.o. But they know there's no DNA on file anywhere that can be matched, so they don't much care what they leave behind.

And yes, I would expect he left DNA behind.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2022 12:24 PM (YV6PJ)

112 But DNA is only useful if the person is already in the national database or is in custody.
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Naw, Cops are using stuff like 23 and me.

Posted by: yeah okay - qualifier at November 30, 2022 12:24 PM (3ncNg)

113 How is he going to become his best self then?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating a corrupt and violent world with Clint Eastwood

When Soros money even gets to AoS cobs...the world is at an end.

Let me fly to Tehran, put on a rainbow shirt, and let the morality patrol teach me base jumping without a chute.

Posted by: JEM at November 30, 2022 12:24 PM (8erNz)

114 You could assume all the kids were in a drunk sleep and the dog was actually barking but nobody woke up to it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 30, 2022 12:24 PM (I76dP)

115 "The detective said this weapon is probably something (the killer) paid money for and something that they're proud of," he said.

Like a katana?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 30, 2022 12:24 PM (lTGtQ)

116 However, authorities have not confirmed if they believe the dog was in the house at the time of the murders.

Whut?

Posted by: steevy at November 30, 2022 12:25 PM (yezA1)

117 I agree, but was the dog also drunk?

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 30, 2022 12:20 PM

With college kids around, that's a distinct possibility.

Posted by: Bert G at November 30, 2022 12:25 PM (aCgRi)

118 I was listening to a podcast and they were discussing the drive for media to sensationalize bad stuff, or perceived bad things. For ratings, and clicks.
I found it pretty accurate.

I think thought to myself would there be a market for good news. Not Good News, there is a market for that of course.
What I mean is, how refreshing would a show (or dare I say channel) that makes a point to report good things.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 30, 2022 12:25 PM (53oGX)

119 Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:16 PM

Try the shrimp 'n grits!

Posted by: BignJames at November 30, 2022 12:25 PM (AwYPR)

120 I believe the murders happened on a Friday night and they could have been in a drunken stupor. In which case the killer might have been a party/bar and seen them drinking heavily.
Posted by: Ripley at November 30, 2022 12:23 PM (MxEKc)

I don't believe it.

That would make sense. I assume LE has already tested the dog for tranqs.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:23 PM (eOEVl)

I would assume nothing. They don't want to catch this killer

Posted by: CN at November 30, 2022 12:25 PM (Zzbjj)

121 Check out the eyes - Middle Top Window. Blow up the pic.

Cat's eyes?
Posted by: yeah okay - qualifier at November 30, 2022

***
I should hope so!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2022 12:25 PM (J2vNu)

122 Matching tattoos?

Yeah they are suspects.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2022 12:25 PM (GZ12V)

123 Where were Kanye West and Nick Fuentes at that time?

Posted by: steevy at November 30, 2022 12:25 PM (yezA1)

124
Like a katana?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 30, 2022 12:24 PM (lTGtQ)

It will KEEEL.

Posted by: Doug Marcaida at November 30, 2022 12:26 PM (Zz0t1)

125 Watch - they're going to "means test" Social Security, thereby screwing every Social Security recipient who was stupid enough to try and save for retirement.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

Types* deletes*.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 12:26 PM (aKxz7)

126 110 Matching tattoos on the survivors?

Sorry, but that is a little too self-absorbed for me.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 30, 2022 12:24 PM (XIJ/X)
___________________

They are vapid college students. Self-absorption is all they know.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 30, 2022 12:26 PM (iFTx/)

127 I believe the murders happened on a Friday night and they could have been in a drunken stupor. In which case the killer might have been a party/bar and seen them drinking heavily.
Posted by: Ripley at November 30, 2022 12:23 PM (MxEKc)
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Sadly, this could be true. I sat on a grand jury case once where the defendant had raped a poor woman for two full hours while other people were asleep in the house. No one woke up during that time. She was effectively paralyzed with terror. Horrible things can happen just a few feet away and you are none the wiser.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2022 12:26 PM (YIVH2)

128 What breed of dog was it?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 30, 2022 12:26 PM (atmen)

129 122 Yeah but that is the kind of thing this dumb generation does.

Posted by: steevy at November 30, 2022 12:26 PM (yezA1)

130 Too big for cat eyes. Looks like a reflection.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 30, 2022 12:26 PM (I76dP)

131 I believe the murders happened on a Friday night and they could have been in a drunken stupor. In which case the killer might have been a party/bar and seen them drinking heavily.
Posted by: Ripley

Two shots of Tullamore Dew in the dog's water and he'll sleep like a baby...

Posted by: JEM at November 30, 2022 12:26 PM (8erNz)

132 I am hoping to take off Christmas to New Years but I haven't asked the cobs yet. But I might not need them, I might just ask readers to accept that it's going to be week of open threads.

Posted by: ace at November 30, 2022 12:09 PM (C1Zwz)

=========

Finally, we'll be able to talk about Star Trek.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Prometheus & gun threads.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 12:12 PM (aKxz7)
***

Running with scissors.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2022 12:26 PM (anj39)

133 Mexico is always cheap currently a peso is worth a nickel. So 20 to a dollar. Cozumel, being an island, is very safe. Been going there for more,than 20 years.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:26 PM (Y+l9t)

134 John Thune, the No. 2 Senate GOP leader, says in interview Senate Repubs want to leverage the next US debt limit increase to...

Because that's always worked so well every time they've tried it.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2022 12:27 PM (nfrXX)

135 Sharon I was in Cozumel years ago (scuba trip, great reef diving, and best night dive evah), and it still had a very authentic, friendly, low-key Mexican thing going on. Just a block off the main drag, more regular local restaurants, for example. Was actually the last time I encountered the incredibly warm and friendly Mexican style I had known for so long from time in pre-boom/pre-cartel Mexico, and boat trips including small towns in Baja.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 30, 2022 12:27 PM (OTzUX)

136 One or more of the vicims knew the killer or the killer followed one of them home. I agree it was probably the killers first crime of this magnitude.

Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2022 12:27 PM (Vupvf)

137 Why would anyone care about 4 deaths in Idaho when thousands of LGTB+ are dying every day because Elon Musk bought Twitter? Get your priorities straight haters.

Posted by: Taylor Lorenz at November 30, 2022 12:27 PM (qH6FZ)

138 Republicans aren't going to do shit for the next 2 years other than, "Oh well, we tried, vote harder."

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 30, 2022 12:27 PM (UuD2k)

139 We need common sense brutal weapon control.
Only Congress can accomplish this this.

Posted by: wth at November 30, 2022 12:27 PM (v0R5T)

140 Running with scissors.
Posted by: Diogenes

Around a pool.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 12:27 PM (aKxz7)

141 Where were Kanye West and Nick Fuentes at that time?
Posted by: steevy at November 30, 2022 12:25 PM (yezA1)

Hiding at Trump's Mar-a-Largo estate because he's stupid and his handlers are bumbling idiots.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 30, 2022 12:27 PM (Zz0t1)

142 @112 Naw, Cops are using stuff like 23 and me.

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And can also use the DNA of family members to narrow things down even if the actual suspect's DNA isn't available to check.

Posted by: junior at November 30, 2022 12:28 PM (PTw5h)

143 Running with scissors.
Posted by: Diogenes

Around a pool.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 12:27 PM (aKxz7)

Less than 20 minutes after eating.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 30, 2022 12:28 PM (Zz0t1)

144 > He says the weapon used -- which I guess is unspecified as to type -- is a "brutal weapon" which left large wounds in its victims.

Maybe some weird fantasy weapon like this:
https://bit.ly/3Um6KHN

Posted by: bonhomme at November 30, 2022 12:28 PM (eyxn4)

145 Republicans aren't going to do shit for the next 2 years other than, "Oh well, we tried, vote harder."
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 30, 2022 12:27 PM (UuD2k)
........

Send Money

Posted by: wth at November 30, 2022 12:28 PM (v0R5T)

146 If only we had a law that made murder illegal.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 30, 2022 12:28 PM (I76dP)

147 I mean we don't know if it was one killer yet?

anyway - terrible, scary story for those of us with college-aged kids!

you worry about them getting into a car crash ... not something like this!

or a home invasion at Temple - they had like three in the span of two weeks recently. ALSO scary altho no deaths thankfully

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 30, 2022 12:28 PM (w0NJk)

148 The brother of RS McCain thinks it's a serial killer:

https://tinyurl.com/2fmd595k
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 30, 2022 12:14 PM (vH/6k)

Probably. Not sure why they say this is a first time for the killer.
==
They think it is someone who knew one of the kids and the circumstances of the house. And that it is a first time, because it was a high risk situation and most experience serial killers have polished their game. (They come with a murder kit, that have a way to isolate the victims so they won't be interrupted, the killer also probably made some mistakes . . .) Alternatively, if they think it is a serial, they are trying to draw the killer out by calling it amateur.

Posted by: yeah okay - qualifier at November 30, 2022 12:28 PM (PYdU5)

149 That woman that was OOD when that destroyer collided with the merchant ship got the dead crew mates names tattooed on her. These are the people that go put a teddy bear at the site of some crime or accident

Posted by: steevy at November 30, 2022 12:28 PM (yezA1)

150 John Thune, the No. 2 Senate GOP leader, says in interview Senate Repubs want to leverage the next US debt limit increase to...

Because that's always worked so well every time they've tried it.

Republicans aren't going to do shit for the next 2 years other than, "Oh well, we tried, vote harder."

Wrong! I'm sure they're already negotiating with the Dems on another amnesty proposal.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:28 PM (eOEVl)

151 Running with scissors.
Posted by: Diogenes

Around a pool.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 12:27 PM (aKxz7)

Less than 20 minutes after eating.
Posted by: Sponge

*SNORT

Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 12:29 PM (aKxz7)

152 As for as getting away, I have two ski trips coming up and also planning to go to Jamaica in February

:-)

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 30, 2022 12:29 PM (iFTx/)

153 Funke and Mortensen had also been out that night and arrived home just after 1 a.m. the morning of the murder.

Well, that seems like an important detail.

Posted by: t-bird at November 30, 2022 12:29 PM (CaJIi)

154 Democratic political take: they were killed by knives , knives help people cut meat, meat production causes climate change....These people were killed by climate change

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 30, 2022 12:29 PM (mP+mW)

155 Do we know Fauci's whereabouts that night?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 30, 2022 12:30 PM (yQpMk)

156 It could of been someone the dog was familiar with. It is probable that the attacker was known to the victims.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:30 PM (Y+l9t)

157 131 I believe the murders happened on a Friday night and they could have been in a drunken stupor. In which case the killer might have been a party/bar and seen them drinking heavily.
Posted by: Ripley

Two shots of Tullamore Dew in the dog's water and he'll sleep like a baby...
Posted by: JEM at November 30, 2022 12:26 PM (8erNz)

I'd be damnned if I'm sharing the sweet mountain dew with fido, lass...

Posted by: Tim Finnigan at November 30, 2022 12:30 PM (53oGX)

158 The police recruits rundown story is dead dead dead and even though they know who the perpetrator is he's still foot loose and fancy free.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 30, 2022 12:30 PM (FVME7)

159 Why would anyone care about 4 deaths in Idaho when thousands of LGTB+ are dying every day because Elon Musk bought Twitter? Get your priorities straight haters.
Posted by: Taylor Lorenz at November 30, 2022 12:27 PM (qH6FZ)

Where's osteoporosis when you need it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 30, 2022 12:30 PM (Zz0t1)

160 Point is, no DNA is useful unless you have a suspect and can get DNA from them or a relative. They can remove people from consideration. But unless that person is in the database, it's not a magic bullet.

I'm guessing they have DNA but nothing to do with it but wait for a suspect.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 30, 2022 12:30 PM (I76dP)

161 > What breed of dog was it?

Yeah, some dogs are heavier sleepers than many people. Not all dogs wake up barking at the slightest creak of the floor.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 30, 2022 12:30 PM (eyxn4)

162 Watch - they're going to "means test" Social Security, thereby screwing every Social Security recipient who was stupid enough to try and save for retirement.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2022 12:20 PM (KCOCK)

Good. I want all those old farts roused out of bed and working 16 hours a day at Arby's at minimum wage for their "retirement".

Be Happy In Your Work!

Posted by: Colonel Saito at November 30, 2022 12:30 PM (0ZEfs)

163 135 Sharon I was in Cozumel years ago (scuba trip, great reef diving, and best night dive evah), and it still had a very authentic, friendly, low-key Mexican thing going on. Just a block off the main drag, more regular local restaurants, for example. Was actually the last time I encountered the incredibly warm and friendly Mexican style I had known for so long from time in pre-boom/pre-cartel Mexico, and boat trips including small towns in Baja.

we LOVE Cozumel - you will have a fantastic time! there are some really great restaurants there. GO TO GUIDOS!!! it's the best Italian restaurant I have ever been to! the puffy bread you get for free is worth the trip on its own!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 30, 2022 12:30 PM (w0NJk)

164 This is a straight up case of White Supremacy.

Posted by: EFF BEE EYE at November 30, 2022 12:30 PM (j40lz)

165 Update your stylebooks!

ESPN Host Stephen A. Smith Apologizes for Using the Term “Homosexual” While Discussing Profanity-Laced Lamar Jackson Tweet

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I'm not sure what we're supposed to replace it with although I know several alternatives.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 30, 2022 12:30 PM (FVME7)

166 FBI profilers are a joke. They are either horribly vague or totally wrong. With no suspects at this point, I'm betting a stranger who is a serial killer.

Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud at November 30, 2022 12:30 PM (EpDzw)

167 Fauci the dwarf can only kill by funding dangerous research and withholding effective treatments....

Posted by: steevy at November 30, 2022 12:31 PM (yezA1)

168 Pence was on Outnumbered this morning.
Carley Shimkus' body was too.

Posted by: wth at November 30, 2022 12:31 PM (v0R5T)

169 Peter Zeihan does his usual simplification of complex issues, but somehow, it's just fun to watch. The subject is the impending death of China.

https://tinyurl.com/3z598ewa

Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:31 PM (eOEVl)

170 134 John Thune, the No. 2 Senate GOP leader, says in interview Senate Repubs want to leverage the next US debt limit increase to...

Because that's always worked so well every time they've tried it.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2022 12:27 PM (nfrXX)

If this helps get more of the GOPe out of the Senate - I say go for it. Time for some new fresh true US Constitutionalist blood to be in office.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 30, 2022 12:31 PM (N39Ws)

171 161 > What breed of dog was it?

could have been an all-white Dal

they're often deaf

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 30, 2022 12:31 PM (w0NJk)

172 *eyes Ace's liquor cabinet*

*wonders where he hides the key*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at November 30, 2022 12:31 PM (UQUAY)

173 "The site of the crime. I assume the rear balcony deck has stairs going to the ground, which allowed the killer to enter the second floor without going through the first floor."

Ace, no stairs needed to get to the second floor at the rear. You can see in the photo that the ground slopes-up from the driveway to that level.

Here's Daily Mail article with more pix and interior plans for the rear two storeys.

https://tinyurl.com/4yyj7pmr

Not clear if there is interior access from front section to rear section of the structure.

Posted by: Gref at November 30, 2022 12:31 PM (AMIL/)

174 Unless all four were passed out blind drunk, that is too many for one unless they can chop-chop

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2022 12:31 PM (GZ12V)

175 Watch - they're going to "means test" Social Security, thereby screwing every Social Security recipient who was stupid enough to try and save for retirement.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Of course they are. It was never not going to happen, it was only a matter of time. They stole the money. They have no way to pay for anything and they keep stealing the money see for example Ukraine. They will never stop on their own. Ever. There is only one party and they are doing a number on the whole country.

Posted by: yeah okay - qualifier at November 30, 2022 12:31 PM (3ncNg)

176 It's probably better that they're saying nothing, since most crime reporting is idiotic at best and flat out dangerous most of the time. Once Nancy Grace gets involved the most unbelievable bullshit starts flying around constantly - she would pick some rando (the neighbor) and start trying to convict him based on nothing at all. And then there's the psychic sidekicks who will accuse people based on their own bad dreams. What a circus.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2022 12:31 PM (trdmm)

177 Age of the dog has to be taken into account. Older dog can easily be partially deaf.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 30, 2022 12:31 PM (5pTK/)

178 Martha McCallum thanked Pence for his service to the country.

Posted by: wth at November 30, 2022 12:31 PM (v0R5T)

179 Sharon, my nephew & his wife live in Charleston. It's one of my favorite places, but I haven't been there in more than 20 years. Used to enjoy walking along the Battery (or as we southerners say, the Bat'ry). I think Ft Sumter and Patriots Point are worth a visit.

Have fun in Cozumel too!

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 30, 2022 12:32 PM (IdLgA)

180 A brutal weapon that kills quickly. Hatchet or tomahawk? Pelosi's hammer?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 30, 2022 12:32 PM (yQpMk)

181 John Thune is why the GOP keeps losing, and deserves to lose.

TAX CUTS! SLASH SOCIAL SECURITY! MINOR SPENDING CUTS!

How about leveraging the GOP's limited power in order to force the government to issue a massive number of new oil and gas permits? How about a swath of new nuclear plants so that we can have cheap energy? How about selling off some of the vast federal land holdings out west?

Posted by: Carabinieri at November 30, 2022 12:32 PM (wmDcS)

182 That's my theory: killer is a former/spurned gay lover who probably blames the female roomies for being in former/spurned status.
Posted by: Bert G at November 30, 2022 12:22 PM (aCgRi)

Definite maybe. If you look at the frat site, they played a silly dress up game and one even wore sequin suspenders. Someone took umbrage with this and took it very personally.

Posted by: CN at November 30, 2022 12:32 PM (Zzbjj)

183 148 The brother of RS McCain thinks it's a serial killer:

https://tinyurl.com/2fmd595k
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 30, 2022 12:14 PM (vH/6k)

Probably. Not sure why they say this is a first time for the killer.
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They think it is someone who knew one of the kids and the circumstances of the house. And that it is a first time, because it was a high risk situation and most experience serial killers have polished their game. (They come with a murder kit, that have a way to isolate the victims so they won't be interrupted, the killer also probably made some mistakes . . .) Alternatively, if they think it is a serial, they are trying to draw the killer out by calling it amateur.
Posted by: yeah okay - qualifier at November 30, 2022 12:28 PM (PYdU5)
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Nah. This was a crime of passion. Someone was really really really pissed off at at least one of the murdered kids. I'm gonna bet sex or a love triangle gone really really really bad.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 30, 2022 12:32 PM (iFTx/)

184 the murders took place a little more than an hour from WW state prison

like Newburg NY and Hudson NY, the parolees stay close to home

Posted by: REDACTED at November 30, 2022 12:32 PM (us2H3)

185 As for as getting away, I have two ski trips coming up and also planning to go to Jamaica in February

:-)
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 30, 2022 12:29 PM (iFTx/)

***

Parts of Queens and the Bronx are quite nice in February

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 30, 2022 12:32 PM (flINI)

186 158 They released him without charges

Posted by: steevy at November 30, 2022 12:32 PM (yezA1)

187 According to Bill Warner, a detective in Florida, these murders - as well as two others - are the work of a Ted Bundy copycat. This supposed copycat killed in Washington, then Oregon, then Idaho - just like Bundy..

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So there are other murders in WA and OR that mirror this one? If so, could be a copycat. If murders of a similar nature start happening in the Salt Lake City or UT area, I'd say even more so.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 30, 2022 12:32 PM (sVtYq)

188 "That woman that was OOD when that destroyer collided with the merchant ship got the dead crew mates names tattooed on her."

Tell me you're making that up.

Was this the OOD who was in fact culpable in the disaster and their deaths? Jeebus. Wordless at this idea.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 30, 2022 12:32 PM (OTzUX)

189 The male victim did not live in the house. He was staying there with his GF.

Posted by: SamE at November 30, 2022 12:32 PM (Mv5Iw)

190 "brutal weapon" implies to me some kind of axe.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (trdmm)

191 Posted by: Gref at November 30, 2022 12:31 PM (AMIL/)

Why is The DailyMail so often a better source of information on things that happen in the US the the US press?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (UuD2k)

192 9.
'It sounds like a Babylon Bee name.'

You mock but it gets a hell of a scrabble score.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (T/s40)

193 A narcissist is just a sociopath with better PR.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (GZ12V)

194 Just an FYI, there are no stairs from the rear deck to ground level.

Posted by: Long Running Fool at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (kYLgL)

195 Dog not stirring and others not hearing anything, maybe the victims were drugged and then murdered while unconscious? The lack of information does lead to wild speculation doesn't it?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (m/i8D)

196 180 Bone tomahawk( yeah I just watched it Monday night)

Posted by: steevy at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (yezA1)

197 the murders took place a little more than an hour from WW state prison

like Newburg NY and Hudson NY, the parolees stay close to home
Posted by: REDACTED at November 30, 2022 12:32 PM (us2H3)

***

Weight Watchers has a prison?

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (flINI)

198 This tragic event has been covered incessantly in Seattle. Your own comment points out what the media is saying. No one is ignoring this story. It's got dead pretty girls. It's a story. We just have no leads. So there isn't much to report about.

Yes, ace, I know this will get banned. Funny isn't it. It's first amendment when Twitter bans someone for misinformation. But you banned me for doing nothing more than telling the truth. LOL

Posted by: Seattle Slough at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (KcqqB)

199 Ace, no stairs needed to get to the second floor at the rear. You can see in the photo that the ground slopes-up from the driveway to that level.

Here's Daily Mail article with more pix and interior plans for the rear two storeys.

https://tinyurl.com/4yyj7pmr

Not clear if there is interior access from front section to rear section of the structure.
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Killer probably knew were the hide a key was. No forced entry? Suggests familiar acquaintance at least.

Posted by: yeah okay - qualifier at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (280q9)

200 @disclosetv · 7m
JUST IN - Twitter has "interfered in elections," says Elon Musk.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (Vwz3I)

201 Another "known" wolf?

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (iFTx/)

202 Ted Bundy, Jr.

Posted by: m at November 30, 2022 12:34 PM (8rTNG)

203 So, are these four deaths “of Covid” or “with Covid?”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 30, 2022 12:34 PM (atmen)

204 188 nope

Posted by: steevy at November 30, 2022 12:34 PM (yezA1)

205 Kanye West Says IRS Froze Bank Accounts Because He Owes $50 Million in Taxes

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Is there nothing the Jews won't do?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 30, 2022 12:34 PM (FVME7)

206 134 John Thune, the No. 2 Senate GOP leader, says in interview Senate Repubs want to leverage the next US debt limit increase to...

Because that's always worked so well every time they've tried it.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2022 12:27 PM (nfrXX)

Raising Debt Ceiling = Fed Res Printing more money = More Inflation.

I realized years ago, that half the average people are by definition of below average intelligence... and you only need about 1/3 to vote for you to win office (1/3 don't vote at all). Proof that Democracy can devolve to a Idiocracy.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 30, 2022 12:34 PM (oHd/0)

207 Matching tattoos on the survivors?

Sorry, but that is a little too self-absorbed for me.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 30, 2022 12:24 PM (XIJ/X)

Sounds weird to me, too. But the cops have evidently ruled them out as suspects.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2022 12:34 PM (tkR6S)

208 @158 The police recruits rundown story is dead dead dead and even though they know who the perpetrator is he's still foot loose and fancy free.

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The other day I heard from someone who's not at all generally sympathetic to people who go after cops (and even has an "I appreciate the cops" sign in his front yard), and who's actually in a position where he might hear useful information about this specific incident, that there's a good chance that it was an accident.

I don't remember much more about what he said, unfortunately.

Posted by: junior at November 30, 2022 12:34 PM (PTw5h)

209 I would like to offer up Rob Reiner as a suspect.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 30, 2022 12:34 PM (I76dP)

210 Of course they are. It was never not going to happen, it was only a matter of time. They stole the money. They have no way to pay for anything and they keep stealing the money see for example Ukraine. They will never stop on their own. Ever. There is only one party and they are doing a number on the whole country.

Yup. You caught them. The reason this country is in an inescapable financial hole is Ukraine.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:34 PM (eOEVl)

211 Good. I want all those old farts roused out of bed and working 16 hours a day at Arby's at minimum wage for their "retirement".

Along with Miss Lindsey's proposal to ban abortion nationwide, I think that this is just more proof that the GOPe **wants** to be the minority party, and will take political positions that assure that they will be the minority party.

It means they don't have any responsibility, and they still get an agreed-upon share of the graft.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2022 12:34 PM (KCOCK)

212 195 Dog not stirring and others not hearing anything, maybe the victims were drugged and then murdered while unconscious? The lack of information does lead to wild speculation doesn't it?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (m/i8D)

Then I'd be looking harder at the roommates.

Posted by: CN at November 30, 2022 12:34 PM (Zzbjj)

213 They think it is someone who knew one of the kids and the circumstances of the house. And that it is a first time, because it was a high risk situation and most experience serial killers have polished their game. (They come with a murder kit, that have a way to isolate the victims so they won't be interrupted, the killer also probably made some mistakes . . .) Alternatively, if they think it is a serial, they are trying to draw the killer out by calling it amateur.
Posted by: yeah okay - qualifier at November 30, 2022 12:28 PM (PYdU5)

Yeah, the reason I don't buy it is because he did in fact, kill four people while leaving two others alive and unaware. Whatever other generalities one can make about serial killers, one truth is that no two serial killers are alike, and generalities often don't apply.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2022 12:34 PM (YV6PJ)

214 White
Is
There
Problem

Posted by: Gonzotx at November 30, 2022 12:34 PM (t4poC)

215 I might just ask readers to accept that it's going to be week of open threads.

I find these terms acceptable.

Enjoy !

Posted by: Next2Nothing at November 30, 2022 12:34 PM (tA1/w)

216 Posted by: Seattle Slough at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (KcqqB)

You seem nice.

Posted by: Tim Finnigan at November 30, 2022 12:35 PM (53oGX)

217 That would make sense. I assume LE has already tested the dog for tranqs.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:23 PM (eOEVl)

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X-rays will reveal a partially-digested 32 oz ribeye in the dog's stomach.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 30, 2022 12:35 PM (pTZA2)

218 Weight Watchers has a prison?

lol he probably means Walla Walla prison

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 30, 2022 12:35 PM (w0NJk)

219 If the dog was in the house and did not bark, killer is in their circle of friends.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2022 12:35 PM (GZ12V)

220 Subpoena their social media accounts. There's a selfie in there somewhere with the killer pictured.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 30, 2022 12:35 PM (Zz0t1)

221 Peter Zeihan does his usual simplification of complex issues, but somehow, it's just fun to watch. The subject is the impending death of China.
Posted by: Archimedes

Much of his reporting is first rate but he believes Byden was elected fairly.

Pffffft.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 30, 2022 12:35 PM (qoGsy)

222 200 @disclosetv · 7m
JUST IN - Twitter has "interfered in elections," says Elon Musk.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (Vwz3I)

In other news... sky is blue today...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 30, 2022 12:35 PM (oHd/0)

223 57 Wonder if it's changed a lot.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:16 PM (Y+l9t)

It's full of gays.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 30, 2022 12:17 PM (UuD2k)

Yup. Key West is butt boy central.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 30, 2022 12:35 PM (BdMk6)

224
What's the name of the Islamic knife? 'Sp' something. Odd that the police think no one suffered.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 30, 2022 12:35 PM (enJYY)

225 They think it is someone who knew one of the kids and the circumstances of the house. And that it is a first time, because it was a high risk situation and most experience serial killers have polished their game. (They come with a murder kit, that have a way to isolate the victims so they won't be interrupted, the killer also probably made some mistakes . . .) Alternatively, if they think it is a serial, they are trying to draw the killer out by calling it amateur.
Posted by: yeah okay - qualifier at November 30, 2022 12:28 PM (PYdU5)

I tend to agree - case histories of serial killers show that they tend to one victim at a time, carefully secluded. Since they are planning it, they plan to carry out the murder with maximum safety for themselves. This was a high risk attack.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2022 12:35 PM (trdmm)

226 There is an entire TV network that makes a living from these types of stories. There are shows on other networks that cover murder and mayhem as well. People eat it up.

Posted by: Javems at November 30, 2022 12:35 PM (AmoqO)

227 They said, early on, that the weapon was some sort of military issue knife.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 30, 2022 12:35 PM (flINI)

228 Rhomboid, it is still like that. More cruise ships come in but they are gone by nightfall so don't impact that small town feel. I can snorkel right off the back of my hotel. Divers still flock to the island to enjoy one of the greatest reefs on the planet so it still has that vibe.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:35 PM (Y+l9t)

229 In 2006 2 students were murdered here in Laramie. That turned out to be a murder-suicide. The perp also sexually assaulted one of the male roommates. Nobody here remembers that crime, only the Shepard murder. UW has an annual symposium for that.

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 30, 2022 12:35 PM (IdLgA)

230 I read somewhere that U of Idaho is considered to be a huge party school, so there's a decent possibility that all the kids were passed-out drunk.

Posted by: pookysgirl went to a non-party school at November 30, 2022 12:36 PM (XKZwp)

231 One of the early reports after it happened was that the weapon was a K-Bar which had a journalist going off reporting about it using using "OMG, military knife! Why are people allowed to sell these?!" because everything is stupid and journalists understand the world slightly less well than a dog barking at the mailman understands the US postal system.

Posted by: Azathoth at November 30, 2022 12:36 PM (wb1YC)

232 AP reporter is horrified by the arsenal! Oh the humanity!!!

Josh Boak @AP White House, politics and economics writer, flaneur, father.
@joshboak
"I'm not a big gun guy," says Carlson, whose weapons include pistols, a shotgun, an AR-15 rifle, 10 loaded magazines and about 1,000 additional rounds. "For a lot of people that's just a start."
apnews.com
No longer fringe, small-town voters fear democracy's demise
HUDSON, Wis. (AP) - A word -- "Hope" -- is stitched onto a throw pillow in the little hilltop farmhouse. Photographs of children and grandchildren speckle the walls. In the kitchen, an envelope is...
8:42 AM · Nov 30, 2022

Read the AP article at https://t.co/B4B3bz850m . It is the funniest damn article I have read in a long time. Not about the people being reported on but the mice going around the wheel in the AP reporter's tiny, elitist bubble mind.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at November 30, 2022 12:36 PM (MFZ8i)

233 Nah. This was a crime of passion. Someone was really really really pissed off at at least one of the murdered kids. I'm gonna bet sex or a love triangle gone really really really bad.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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I knew this was you, before I read the nick. There but for the grace of God. . .

Posted by: yeah okay - qualifier at November 30, 2022 12:36 PM (Y9hTp)

234 35
'I think a large part of the anxiety that pervades modern life comes from the obsessive need to monitor and take personally every bad thing that happens in the world. Protip: there will always be bad things happening in the world.'

Wise words right here.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 30, 2022 12:36 PM (T/s40)

235 What breed of dog was it?

Yeah, some dogs are heavier sleepers than many people. Not all dogs wake up barking at the slightest creak of the floor.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 30, 2022 12:30 PM

We have had dogs that will bark if the neighbors across the street close their door and we have had dogs that lay there not moving even when you call them over and over. Couch potato dogs do exist.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 30, 2022 12:36 PM (uNylN)

236 Serial killers have been known to show at the funerals, or to appear at the grave sites, of victims. Not always, but often.

Posted by: Dr. Titanium Whitey, J.D. at November 30, 2022 12:36 PM (i6shs)

237 @198
Somebody call the whaaaambulance.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 30, 2022 12:36 PM (m/i8D)

238 Cozumel, being an island, is very safe. Been going there for more,than 20 years.

I would have loved to go to Cozumel back when I was still scuba diving but I never got the chance. I have been there briefly a couple of times on cruise ship stops. Pretty much all you can do in a few hours is go to the tourist shops and get accosted by hyper-aggressive sales guys*. If I'm ever on a ship stopping in Cozumel again, I'll just stay on board and take a nap.

* one fun story
Guy in shop door: "Cuban cigars?"
Me: "Don't smoke."
Him: "It's never too late to start!"

Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2022 12:36 PM (nfrXX)

239 Yes, ace, I know this will get banned. Funny isn't it. It's first amendment when Twitter bans someone for misinformation. But you banned me for doing nothing more than telling the truth. LOL
Posted by: Seattle Slough at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (KcqqB)

No need to ban when we can mock. Dance monkey, dance.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 30, 2022 12:36 PM (yQpMk)

240 off sock

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 30, 2022 12:36 PM (53oGX)

241 David McGowan posits that most "serial killers" are in fact members of satanic cults that are protected by the criminal justice system. His book is called "Programmed to Kill."

He has another book investigating the links between the CIA and all the hippy musicians that lived in Laurel Canyon in the 60's & 70's. "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon."

Posted by: Oschisms at November 30, 2022 12:36 PM (0A5+1)

242 > Unless all four were passed out blind drunk, that is too many for one unless they can chop-chop

Wasn't it Richard Ramirez who killed a sleeping football player before he killed the young woman the guy was there to protect?

When you're fast asleep, even if you're not drunk, you're extremely vulnerable.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 30, 2022 12:37 PM (eyxn4)

243 There was probably so much traffic in that house that the dog probably is numb to it. Another factor is type and age of dog. My dog use to go ballistic if the doorbell rang. Now she's 12 and could care less. So a dog not barking is that big a flag depending on type of dog, age of dog, etc.

Posted by: lin-duh (y'all/all y'all) at November 30, 2022 12:37 PM (J7r/Q)

244 It's probably a confluence of numerous factors...

The kids were drunk and passed out, the killer was familiar enough with them and the house that they were able to enter fairly easily, their actions were brutal and swift so that's why no one, even the dog were aware of the horrors that had just unfolded, they made a quick exit.

Very sad.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 30, 2022 12:37 PM (z4WDg)

245 "Yeah, some dogs are heavier sleepers than many people. Not all dogs wake up barking at the slightest creak of the floor."
Posted by: bonhomme at November 30, 2022 12:30 PM (eyxn4)

Not all dogs are smart. I think the family dog we had growing up would have sat still, wagging its tail, while an ax murderer went to town on us hoping he might get a treat at some point. Snowball, God bless that stupid dog.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 30, 2022 12:37 PM (76Foq)

246 Famed former FBI profiler Jim Clemente told The Post he believes the suspect is a "younger" man and a first-time killer

Pretty much the opposite of what I would think. This guy was professional. Could it have been more than one?

Posted by: t-bird at November 30, 2022 12:37 PM (CaJIi)

247 >>>60 Oh don't worry the NY Post (bought and paid for by Bloomberg) has already called the Ka-Bar an "assult knife."

oh right, I saw that someplace. Thanks.

Posted by: ace at November 30, 2022 12:37 PM (C1Zwz)

248 A narcissist is just a sociopath with better PR.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (GZ12V)

True. But enough about my wife....

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2022 12:37 PM (YV6PJ)

249 they keep stealing the money see for example Ukraine. They will never stop on their own. Ever. There is only one party and they are doing a number on the whole country.

Yup. You caught them. The reason this country is in an inescapable financial hole is Ukraine.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:34 PM (eOEVl)

Uh, note the 'for example'... as in this is just one of many cases of stealing money?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 30, 2022 12:37 PM (oHd/0)

250 They said, early on, that the weapon was some sort of military issue knife.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 30, 2022 12:35 PM

There is no way they could know that unless the killer left the knife at the crime scene. The media loves to hype everything just to get views.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 30, 2022 12:37 PM (uNylN)

251 whose weapons include pistols, a shotgun, an AR-15 rifle, 10 loaded magazines and about 1,000 additional rounds.

Err ... yes ... well ... quite the arsenal.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 30, 2022 12:37 PM (yQpMk)

252 Nah. This was a crime of passion. Someone was really really really pissed off at at least one of the murdered kids. I'm gonna bet sex or a love triangle gone really really really bad.
Posted by: Elric Blade

Could be unrequited love from some gay guy, who will turn around and say he was ridiculed.

Posted by: CN at November 30, 2022 12:38 PM (Zzbjj)

253 19 Ah, we need Holmes.
Posted by: JEM at November 30, 2022 12:10 PM (8erNz)

She's in jail, though, so....
Posted by: Warai-otoko

I'm still in jail, too! Biden really cares, though, and is much tougher than that mean ole Putin, so I should be free any day now!

Posted by: Brittney Greiner at November 30, 2022 12:38 PM (tnYNT)

254 The "news" is a giant mind control stage show. There is no way to reliably find out what is actually happening in the world anywhere, least of all this stupid ass bullshit country.

Vote GOP!!!

Posted by: ... at November 30, 2022 12:38 PM (RZSup)

255 Yes, ace, I know this will get banned. Funny isn't it. It's first amendment when Twitter bans someone for misinformation. But you banned me for doing nothing more than telling the truth. LOL
Posted by: Seattle Slough at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (KcqqB)

Last I remember hearing from you is when you were shrieking that WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE! DIE! DIE!!!! FROM COVID!!!

well I guess we didn't.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2022 12:38 PM (trdmm)

256 Ace, you should definitely take the break. It would also help the many addicted here to make take a walk outside.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)

Its raining out there !
Posted by: JT at November 30, 2022 12:17 PM (T4tVD)

Baby it's cold outside
Posted by: banana Dream a

No cabs to be had out there....

Posted by: JT at November 30, 2022 12:38 PM (T4tVD)

257 184 the parolees from prisons in the Hudson valley usually head home to NYC. Newburgh, Hudson, Kingston (my home) and Poughkeepsie have enough of their own home grown criminals

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 30, 2022 12:38 PM (mP+mW)

258 -
Subpoena their social media accounts. There's a selfie in there somewhere with the killer pictured.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 30, 2022 12:35 PM -
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Indeed. Do you know how hard it is to sneak up on people these days. They take a f'n selfie every 10 seconds.

Posted by: Murderers Local #242 at November 30, 2022 12:38 PM (8rX4S)

259 If the dog was in the house and did not bark, killer is in their circle of friends.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2022 12:35 PM (GZ12V)

Huh. Can't be. Can it?

Posted by: The FBI at November 30, 2022 12:38 PM (v0R5T)

260 They think it is someone who knew one of the kids and the circumstances of the house. And that it is a first time, because it was a high risk situation and most experience serial killers have polished their game. (They come with a murder kit, that have a way to isolate the victims so they won't be interrupted, the killer also probably made some mistakes . . .) Alternatively, if they think it is a serial, they are trying to draw the killer out by calling it amateur.
Posted by: yeah okay - qualifier at November 30, 2022 12:28 PM (PYdU5)

I tend to agree - case histories of serial killers show that they tend to one victim at a time, carefully secluded. Since they are planning it, they plan to carry out the murder with maximum safety for themselves. This was a high risk attack.
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That said, If I recall correctly, Richard Speck broke into and killed like a house full of nursing students.

Posted by: yeah okay - qualifier at November 30, 2022 12:38 PM (5Bgyi)

261 @246

>>Pretty much the opposite of what I would think. This guy was professional. Could it have been more than one?

Doubtful, and although it is safe to assume the killer was male, it quite possibly could have been a woman.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 30, 2022 12:38 PM (z4WDg)

262 So there are other murders in WA and OR that mirror this one? If so, could be a copycat. If murders of a similar nature start happening in the Salt Lake City or UT area, I'd say even more so.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 30, 2022 12:32 PM (sVtYq)

Yes. A couple were stabbed in Salem, then a woman was stabbed in Washington, 70 miles away. Two victims died, the woman in Oregon survived being stabbed 19 times.

If he IS copying Bundy, Colorado is next.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 30, 2022 12:38 PM (OBacQ)

263 Anybody seen my car keys?

Posted by: The FBI at November 30, 2022 12:39 PM (v0R5T)

264 Uh, note the 'for example'... as in this is just one of many cases of stealing money?

Yeah, one of....let's see....one examples. It's clearly intended to highlight that, as if it's even a rounding error in the discussion.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:39 PM (eOEVl)

265 the murders took place a little more than an hour from WW state prison

like Newburg NY and Hudson NY, the parolees stay close to home
Posted by: REDACTED at November 30, 2022 12:32 PM (us2H3)

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Weight Watchers has a prison?
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (flINI)
***

Walla Walla State Pen.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2022 12:39 PM (anj39)

266 People all get banned here for the same exact reason and it's called being an unrepentant shit stirring asshole. The few unrepentant shit stirring assholes who stick around bring personality, wit and occasional common sense to the party.

Posted by: ... at November 30, 2022 12:39 PM (RZSup)

267 228 Rhomboid, it is still like that. More cruise ships come in but they are gone by nightfall so don't impact that small town feel. I can snorkel right off the back of my hotel. Divers still flock to the island to enjoy one of the greatest reefs on the planet so it still has that vibe.

are you going to the El Presidente?!?!!

that's where we always go, to the rooms almost all the way by the pier (keep an eye on the bouys or you might end up like Kirsty MacColl tho)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 30, 2022 12:39 PM (w0NJk)

268 Weight Watchers has a prison?
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report

The cells must be extra big.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 30, 2022 12:40 PM (FVME7)

269 In other news, at 55,100 words on NaNoWriMo story.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2022 12:40 PM (GZ12V)

270 That said, If I recall correctly, Richard Speck broke into and killed like a house full of nursing students.

IIRC, he broke in, tied them all up, and took the victims one at a time to another room to be killed.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:40 PM (eOEVl)

271 "How about leveraging the GOP's limited power in order to force the government to issue a massive number of new oil and gas permits? How about a swath of new nuclear plants so that we can have cheap energy? How about selling off some of the vast federal land holdings out west?"

Exactly!

To that list add an erased border/evaporated rule of law in immigration, the fundamental disaster of allowing an outlandish hypothesis (AGW) to run, ruin, and impoverish all human activity, and a serious renewed emphasis on fiscal insanity and how it fuels both inflation longer term ruin? (OK, can't say that last one with a straight face any more - fiscal sanity has gone from the central and constant issue of contention to literally unheard-of in a few decades)

But the GOP is not the Trump GOP (ooh, he's icky and stuff, I know, but just happens to be the first major figure to be serious about serious issues in an eternity). It's the GOP that easily re-elects as leaders the likes of McCarthy and McConnell. Hopeless.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 30, 2022 12:40 PM (OTzUX)

272 [quote]199 Ace, no stairs needed to get to the second floor at the rear. You can see in the photo that the ground slopes-up from the driveway to that level.

Here's Daily Mail article with more pix and interior plans for the rear two storeys.

https://tinyurl.com/4yyj7pmr

Not clear if there is interior access from front section to rear section of the structure.
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Killer probably knew were the hide a key was. No forced entry? Suggests familiar acquaintance at least.[/quote]

In Moscow, there likely was not a hide-a-key. A lot of people leave doors unlocked all the time.

There are four doors to the property - the front door, a sliding door accessible from a rear patio, and a pair of sliders off the deck.

Inside, there are two stairwells connecting the floors. There were no interior doors dividing the floors.

People are presuming a single killer. Multiple killers is quite possible.

Posted by: Long Running Fool at November 30, 2022 12:40 PM (nueTj)

273 Posted by: Seattle Slough at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (KcqqB)

You're still wearing masks outdoors, aren't you.

Posted by: spindrift at November 30, 2022 12:40 PM (h5TKJ)

274 Seattle Slow's still coming here?

He just can't quit you, Ace.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 30, 2022 12:40 PM (eyxn4)

275 The victims were all extremely attractive.-Two of the young women who were later killed had been out clubbing that night.

College kids can be pretty insular with their friends, not welcoming to "outsiders" from their crew. (I know, I was one, and was a fraternity member.) Outsiders might even be mocked.

Long ago, Ted Bundy set up residence in a Florida college town very close to the University. He hung out at the college and frequented college hangouts.
One night he went to a disco, Sherrods, and actually danced with a few girls. One was heard to say along the lines of , "I think I just danced with an ex convict."
-Several Chi-O (Women's sorority) women were at Sherrods that night.

Late that night Ted Bundy snuck into the nearby Chi-O house, entered girl's rooms and bludgeoned two to death, and injured others.
None of the others at the sorority house (in their rooms on the second floor, as were the victims) heard anything. One, who was returning home saw Bundy run out of the house.

Posted by: RM at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (0eYOS)

276 If the dog made it out alive then we know it wasn't the ATF

Posted by: ... at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (RZSup)

277 Well stupidity goes way back. Bowie knives were banned in many places in the early 19th century even.

Posted by: steevy at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (yezA1)

278 Its weird that the two surviving roomies got matching tattoos of the victims....

That is highly suspicious .

Posted by: Miss Issippi at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (sI15f)

279 Posted by: rhomboid at November 30, 2022 12:40 PM (OTzUX)

The GOP elects one of the most hated pols in the nation as their leader. Fuck'em

Posted by: CN at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (Zzbjj)

280 Guido's is one of my favorite places along with La Choza and Kinta.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (Y+l9t)

281 btw the story is cold bc of thanksgiving break - the murders happened the night before break or right around the start of break and they are just getting back

so IF this was a student which they might think a strong possibility everything is basically on hold until they come back

betcha it's a foreign student(s)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (w0NJk)

282 Famed former FBI profiler Jim Clemente told The Post he believes the suspect is a "younger" man and a first-time killer

Pretty much the opposite of what I would think. This guy was professional. Could it have been more than one?

Posted by: t-bird at November 30, 2022 12:37 PM

Remember folks, this is the same fib guy who said the DC sniper was a middle aged white male with military service. Because of him, the actual sniper was let go from two different traffic stops over a period of two weeks and went on to kill even more people.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (uNylN)

283 Agree getting matching tats could be a sign

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (xhxe8)

284 Posted by: Seattle Slough at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (KcqqB)

You're still wearing masks outdoors, aren't you.
Posted by: spindrift at November 30, 2022 12:40 PM (h5TKJ)

Alone, in his car.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (yQpMk)

285 I would like to offer up Rob Reiner as a suspect.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 30, 2022

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Does he hang out in Idaho?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (J2vNu)

286 If the killer is a stalker or stranger he is not a first time killer. No one would have that sort of nerve.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (rV8Lk)

287 Wokka Wokka Penitentiary

Posted by: wth at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (v0R5T)

288 Who you trying to get crazy with ése?
Don't you know I'm loco?
Posted by: MS-13 Door Dash Fentanyl Delivery Man

lol, I completely missed them when they were a thing...caught them in 2021 at BRRF, and now no day goes by without a Cypress Hill song getting played. You just have to learn to like B-Real's voice, which to some people probably sound like Geddy Lee sounds to me, lol.

Posted by: Oedipus at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (Qr74b)

289 251 whose weapons include pistols, a shotgun, an AR-15 rifle, 10 loaded magazines and about 1,000 additional rounds.

better known as the appetizer

Posted by: REDACTED at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (us2H3)

290 280 Guido's is one of my favorite places along with La Choza and Kinta.

yes!!! omg I'm jealous I can never take off anymore lately we can't hire anyone

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (w0NJk)

291 @266

>>The few unrepentant shit stirring assholes who stick around bring personality, wit and occasional common sense to the party.

Leprosy and anal warts are better regarded than I am in these parts.

I stick around because, like Mayonnaise, I got nowhere else to go.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 30, 2022 12:42 PM (z4WDg)

292 Anybody seen my car keys?
Posted by: The FBI at November 30, 2022 12:39 PM (v0R5T)

***

I'll help you find them if you'll drive me out of here

Posted by: Just the Punchline at November 30, 2022 12:42 PM (flINI)

293 Weight Watchers has a prison?
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report

What are you in for?

Carb violation.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 30, 2022 12:42 PM (lTGtQ)

294 whose weapons include pistols, a shotgun, an AR-15 rifle, 10 loaded magazines and about 1,000 additional rounds.

***

Youngest Son had at least that much when was a teenager.

Posted by: Azathoth at November 30, 2022 12:43 PM (wb1YC)

295 Last I remember hearing from you is when you were shrieking that WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE! DIE! DIE!!!! FROM COVID!!!

well I guess we didn't.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2022 12:38 PM (trdmm)

Maybe he meant from the Covid shot….

Posted by: LASue at November 30, 2022 12:43 PM (Ed8Zd)

296 159 Why would anyone care about 4 deaths in Idaho when thousands of LGTB+ are dying every day because Elon Musk bought Twitter? Get your priorities straight haters.
Posted by: Taylor Lorenz at November 30, 2022 12:27 PM (qH6FZ)

Where's osteoporosis when you need it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 30, 2022 12:30 PM (Zz0t1)

Dude, that's one sick burn.

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at November 30, 2022 12:43 PM (BuI2a)

297 What began as an argument over who da ho ended in bloodshed in a rural college town. Brad, over to you.

Posted by: Details at 11 at November 30, 2022 12:43 PM (yOepa)

298
D'uh. Scimitar. I know when my son was at Penn State there were a lot of Islamic types. They seemed to gravitate toward the atomic program iirc. One house of Islamic types down the street from him got raided one morning by the black SUV's and got disappeared.

Then another group moved right next door to him. Their choice in music creeped me out.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 30, 2022 12:43 PM (enJYY)

299 This was a crime of passion. Someone was really really really pissed off at at least one of the murdered kids.

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It's surely a possibility. But I always go back to all of the material and books I read about Bundy. He knew none of his victims. He simply snuck in at night and bashed their skulls in. At Florida State, he killed some, left others sleeping in their beds. This could be another psychotic killer. Regardless, it's hideous and horrific. I feel for their parents.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 30, 2022 12:43 PM (sVtYq)

300 22 Ace, you should definitely take the break. It would also help the many addicted here to make take a walk outside.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:12 PM (Y+l9t)
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And then come back inside and talk about Star Trek.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at November 30, 2022 12:43 PM (Dc2NZ)

301 maybe this is a new Ted Bundy type

Posted by: DB at November 30, 2022 12:43 PM (geLO8)

302 Keys to the Ace likker cabinet stay in his messenger bag. Fuggedaboutit!

Posted by: Heino Fan Club #52, Hamburg at November 30, 2022 12:43 PM (dXilO)

303 Agree getting matching tats could be a sign
Posted by: Skip's phone at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (xhxe

.......

of stupidity.

Posted by: wth at November 30, 2022 12:44 PM (v0R5T)

304 Every monk in Thai temple defrocked after testing positive for meth

A Buddhist temple in central Thailand has been left without monks after all of its holy men failed drug tests and were defrocked, a local official said Tuesday.

Four monks, including an abbot, at a temple in Phetchabun province's Bung Sam Phan district tested positive for methamphetamine on Monday, district official Boonlert Thintapthai told AFP.

The monks have been sent to a health clinic to undergo drug rehabilitation, the official said.

"The temple is now empty of monks and nearby villagers are concerned they cannot do any merit-making," he said. Merit-making involves worshippers donating food to monks as a good deed.

Where was Hunter for the last few days?

Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 30, 2022 12:44 PM (tnYNT)

305 How could they possibly know they didn't feel any pain? I can't imagine anything worse than being stabbed to death. I hope they find the scum who did this.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at November 30, 2022 12:44 PM (nxdel)

306 This monster will kill again if not stopped.

Posted by: Max Power at November 30, 2022 12:44 PM (q177U)

307 That said, If I recall correctly, Richard Speck broke into and killed like a house full of nursing students.

IIRC, he broke in, tied them all up, and took the victims one at a time to another room to be killed.
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So that's a pretty high risk but serial killer situation? Was he a serial or a mass murder? Now that I think about it I really don't recall. I know he turned in to a tranny in prison.

Posted by: yeah okay - qualifier at November 30, 2022 12:44 PM (nOxQF)

308 Hi Ace.
Do you ever take a vacation? I'm headed to Cozumel Saturday.

Careful. I got back from Cozumel on Thursday night with the worst case of influenza I've ever had. It's nasty this year.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue surrounded by influenza and Tylenol at November 30, 2022 12:44 PM (pYFM4)

309 If the dog made it out alive then we know it wasn't the ATF
Posted by: ... at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (RZSup)

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Heh

Posted by: Randy Weaver at November 30, 2022 12:44 PM (flINI)

310 whose weapons include pistols, a shotgun, an AR-15 rifle, 10 loaded magazines and about 1,000 additional rounds.

better known as the appetizer
Posted by: REDACTED at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (us2H3)
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A good start.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2022 12:44 PM (anj39)

311 Sharon, thanks. Would love to go again. Though if I/when I can bet back under the water, priority will be a live-aboard trip to the remote reefs off New Guinea, the richest/least spoiled such on planet, last I knew.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 30, 2022 12:45 PM (OTzUX)

312 35 I think a large part of the anxiety that pervades modern life comes from the obsessive need to monitor and take personally every bad thing that happens in the world. Protip: there will always be bad things happening in the world.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:14 PM (eOEVl)

Activism. And the fear of being left out.

Posted by: m at November 30, 2022 12:45 PM (8rTNG)

313 Those Buddhists clean house way better than the Catholic Church...

Posted by: steevy at November 30, 2022 12:45 PM (yezA1)

314 Shit. Off, Italian police sock!

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 30, 2022 12:45 PM (wmDcS)

315 Using a knife to kill is personal. Killing four people with a knife is risky. It also indicates rage.

With the internet, you can also read how to kill quickly and stealthily with a knife. You don't need to be a pro. Stabbing someone a certain way can keep them from making noise. Several of the vics apparently had defensive wounds. Passed out after drinking or even deep sleeping after alcohol use has the effect of decreasing your awareness/alertness and potentially reducing sensation related to any wounds. If they were wounded in the heart or aortic arteries they would be debilitated and bleed out pretty quickly. Pure speculation, but it looks like someone planned and at least did some cursory research. The victims were in a very compromised position. RIP. Find the killer and light them on fire.

Posted by: Marcus T, Byron Donalds for Speaker at November 30, 2022 12:45 PM (vBMpQ)

316 Does anyone know where Net Neutrality was the night of the murders?

Posted by: Azathoth at November 30, 2022 12:45 PM (wb1YC)

317 93

It seems like such a weapon would have a fairly limited supply base. That may make it traceable.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 30, 2022 12:45 PM (T/s40)

318 Guys and girls living together in off-campus housing is not an anomaly. My daughter had a couple of girls and one guy, all straight and platonic friends, as roommates. She said they felt safer w a guy living there. Obviously, not the case in this situation.

Posted by: EveR at November 30, 2022 12:45 PM (MUpk6)

319 This case has a spooky "Red Dragon" feel to it. I wonder if the young women received any "special attention" prior to their murders?

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at November 30, 2022 12:45 PM (yaX79)

320 "My Body My Choice" demonstration this Saturday at Yale. Subject is not abortion, rather mRna booster mandates. The students are required to submit, but not the faculty:

https://tinyurl.com/2p9hz5rk

Posted by: kallisto at November 30, 2022 12:46 PM (dCxaZ)

321 My, how the MSM worm has turned since the murders of JonBenet Ramsey, Natalee Holloway, & company ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 30, 2022 12:46 PM (ISYdD)

322 No, my hotel is Norte, The Coral Princess. Tiny beach but access to 15 feet of clear ocean and coral all up and down the coastline. Mostly smaller versions of reef fish but perfect for snorkeling. There is a dive shop at the hotel so I can take a boat to the reef for $35. Town is a $4 cab ride. My hotel is not an all inclusive thank goodness.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:46 PM (Y+l9t)

323 Is there nothing the Jews won't do?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 30, 2022 12:34 PM

Pay retail?

I keed, I keed...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 30, 2022 12:46 PM (bFu5X)

324 Somebody has to photo shop naked Hunter with the crack pipe in a Buddhist temple....

Posted by: steevy at November 30, 2022 12:46 PM (yezA1)

325 Leprosy and anal warts are better regarded than I am in these parts.

I stick around because, like Mayonnaise, I got nowhere else to go.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
==
Not true. We feel you are better than leprosy, and equal to anal warts.

Posted by: yeah okay - qualifier at November 30, 2022 12:47 PM (mCJB5)

326 266 People all get banned here for the same exact reason and it's called being an unrepentant shit stirring asshole. The few unrepentant shit stirring assholes who stick around bring personality, wit and occasional common sense to the party.
Posted by: ... at November 30, 2022 12:39 PM (RZSup)

I'll have you know, sir, I bring almost none of those things!

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 30, 2022 12:47 PM (53oGX)

327 @305

>>How could they possibly know they didn't feel any pain? I can't imagine anything worse than being stabbed to death. I hope they find the scum who did this.

Without being too graphic, you can't scream if you no longer have vocal chords and you can't register pain if your medula has been severed.

As has been noted, the killings were brutal and quick.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 30, 2022 12:47 PM (z4WDg)

328 How does one work themselves up into such a frenzy that they start stabbing not just one person, but four.
I know it does happen, we've even seen cases of people stabbing complete strangers in the street. I think it is probably a serial killer, and like AOP read about recent pet mutilations in the area, it is probably someone who methodically kills for the thrill and not a scorned acquaintance.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 30, 2022 12:47 PM (7rMTN)

329 Flash Email Traffic: HERITAGE BARKEEP 22LR 3" 6RD BLK/BLK

$49.23 after mail in rebate

https://bityl.co/Fwxy

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 30, 2022 12:47 PM (yQpMk)

330 Seattle Slough, just want to get you on the record, since you're such an honest and informed liberal, you're claiming the censorship policy on a monopoly microblogging platform like Twitter (there is no competitor with more than 2% market share) is the equivalent of MY banning policy on a blog which is decidedly NOT a monopoly and has any of ten thousand completely fungible, acceptable substitutes.

ANSWER RIGHT NOW OR BE PERMANENTLY BANNED, COCKSUCKER.

Posted by: ace at November 30, 2022 12:47 PM (C1Zwz)

331 Late that night Ted Bundy snuck into the nearby Chi-O house, entered girl's rooms and bludgeoned two to death, and injured others.
None of the others at the sorority house (in their rooms on the second floor, as were the victims) heard anything. One, who was returning home saw Bundy run out of the house.

Posted by: RM at November 30, 2022 12:41 PM (0eYOS)

Bundy has been "given credit" for some murders he may not have committed. Law enforcement agencies are often quick to close cases based on the fact they know there are too many of these killers out there to focus on cases that won't be solved. Teevee and movies give the impression of dogged cops, not quitting until the case is solved, but mostly cops just solve the ones that are obvious.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2022 12:47 PM (YV6PJ)

332
... based, it seems, only on him being tagged as being "socially awkward" in televised man-on-the-street media interviews.

___________

If that's a criterion for suspicion, I better get on the lam toot suite.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 30, 2022 12:47 PM (zSe85)

333 I was editing a paper yesterday which said that during the Flavian dynasty that batchelors sat in different sections than married men. Microsoft Word objected to the use of the word "batchelor" as uninclusive. In Rome, in 80 AD.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 30, 2022 12:48 PM (HMTci)

334 People are presuming a single killer. Multiple killers is quite possible.
Posted by: Long Running Fool at November 30, 2022 12:40 PM (nueTj)

possible; but if it looks like the same weapon used for all 4, probably not. Also, with multiple killers you'd have to look for another motive, like someone paid them to do it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2022 12:48 PM (trdmm)

335 > whose weapons include pistols, a shotgun, an AR-15 rifle, 10 loaded magazines and about 1,000 additional rounds.

Those are rookie numbers.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 30, 2022 12:48 PM (eyxn4)

336 266 People all get banned here for the same exact reason and it's called being an unrepentant shit stirring asshole. The few unrepentant shit stirring assholes who stick around bring personality, wit and occasional common sense to the party.
Posted by: ... at November 30, 2022 12:39 PM (RZSup)

You're about 20% incorrect there.

Posted by: Maths? Sorta kinda. at November 30, 2022 12:48 PM (yOepa)

337 It wasn't the butler, but that Professor... Plum, I believe is his name.

Posted by: Tim Curry at November 30, 2022 12:48 PM (x8HKZ)

338 Idaho had just lost a late (4pm start) game to Davis at home on some sort of homecoming/Senior Day game. Can't rule out an entire day and night of drinking keeping them asleep.

Posted by: t-bird at November 30, 2022 12:48 PM (CaJIi)

339 Rhomboid, Belize is the top of my bucket list. My son got to dive the Great Barrier Reef but I don't think my 29 year old body could make the trip at this point in my life.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 12:49 PM (Y+l9t)

340 Congratulations, Anna Puma. I'm so envious and also proud of you.

Posted by: ace at November 30, 2022 12:49 PM (C1Zwz)

341 Beautiful, ace.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 30, 2022 12:49 PM (OTzUX)

342 Here's an idea:

Maybe the Idaho investigators DO have evidence and leads, but they're keeping it under wraps to prevent the clickbait media from reporting it and possibly tipping off the perpetrator

Posted by: DB at November 30, 2022 12:49 PM (geLO8)

343 Are they sure it wasn't Al Gore's Buddhist temple??

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 30, 2022 12:49 PM (Vwz3I)

344 328 How does one work themselves up into such a frenzy that they start stabbing not just one person, but four.
I know it does happen, we've even seen cases of people stabbing complete strangers in the street. I think it is probably a serial killer, and like AOP read about recent pet mutilations in the area, it is probably someone who methodically kills for the thrill and not a scorned acquaintance.
Posted by: washrivergal at November 30, 2022 12:47 PM (7rMTN)
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If they were all already unable to fight back, the killer(s) may have already planned to kill them all in the same manner.

Posted by: Fox Mulder at November 30, 2022 12:49 PM (m/i8D)

345 I would have loved to go to Cozumel back when I was still scuba diving but I never got the chance. I have been there briefly a couple of times on cruise ship stops. Pretty much all you can do in a few hours is go to the tourist shops and get accosted by hyper-aggressive sales guys*. If I'm ever on a ship stopping in Cozumel again, I'll just stay on board and take a nap

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Cozumel is a diver's town. Some of the world's most beautiful reefs and walls are there. And he water is warm, even down to 100+ feet.

Have been there many times.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 30, 2022 12:50 PM (BdMk6)

346 Leprosy and anal warts are better regarded than I am in these parts.

I stick around because, like Mayonnaise, I got nowhere else to go.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
==
Not true. We feel you are better than leprosy, and equal to anal warts.

What about lepers with anal warts?

Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:50 PM (eOEVl)

347 It's been a while since I've been to Cozumel. I want to say it was about 17 years ago right before they had a big hurricane that destroyed a lot. One thing I noticed was a lot of the shops and restaurants were single story with either balconies along the perimeter or paved roofs. And on top of all of them were armed guards, military maybe? pacing back and forth. It seemed like an armed guard for every dozen pasty white tourist. I've never been to a high security prison before but that's what it felt like. Otherwise it was enjoyable. I mostly hung out at the beach with a consistent moderate level buzz. This was before I was a dad, just my wife and me.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2022 12:50 PM (+3jTj)

348 It seems like such a weapon would have a fairly limited supply base. That may make it traceable.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 30, 2022 12:45 PM (T/s40)

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Might I recommend an NCIS television lab tech, guaranteed to find enough & unique evidence to narrow down from thousands if possible to pinpoint the one exact weapon matching all the criteria?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 30, 2022 12:50 PM (/zGjg)

349 ANSWER RIGHT NOW OR BE PERMANENTLY BANNED, COCKSUCKER.

Posted by: ace at November 30, 2022 12:47 PM (C1Zwz)

SS is a source of endless amusement to me. I'd hate to see him banned.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 30, 2022 12:50 PM (yQpMk)

350 Hmmm. Brutal murder in the Pacific Northwest, and, out of the blue, Seattle Slough shows up. Coincidence? I think not.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2022 12:50 PM (tkR6S)

351 Slit a throat first while each one slept, then stab the heck out of someone. That could be done very quietly.

Posted by: Archer at November 30, 2022 12:50 PM (gmo/4)

352 I have one word of advice for your vacation, Ace:
Zima.

Stick with the original. None of that Smirnoff Ice or other knock-offs. Plus people will ask you what the hell you're drinking, so it will be a conversation-starter.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 30, 2022 12:50 PM (t0OGg)

353 Never let the enemy know what you know

Posted by: DB at November 30, 2022 12:50 PM (geLO8)

354 ... based, it seems, only on him being tagged as being "socially awkward" in televised man-on-the-street media interviews.

___________

If that's a criterion for suspicion, I better get on the lam toot suite.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 30, 2022 12:47 PM (zSe85)
***
Dang!
I was in Moscow just a couple weeks prior to this.
*peeks out the window for the feds*

Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2022 12:51 PM (anj39)

355 How could they possibly know they didn't feel any pain? I can't imagine anything worse than being stabbed to death. I hope they find the scum who did this.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at November 30, 2022 12:44 PM (nxdel)

Wasn't it one of the fathers who said that? If so, yeah, if he wants to go to his grave believing that, I sure would let him.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2022 12:51 PM (YV6PJ)

356 Leprosy and anal warts are better regarded than I am in these parts.

I stick around because, like Mayonnaise, I got nowhere else to go.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
==
Not true. We feel you are better than leprosy, and equal to anal warts.

What about lepers with anal warts?
Posted by: Archimedes

If your anal warts had leprosy, they'd fall off, right?

All is well!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 30, 2022 12:51 PM (qoGsy)

357 In other news, at 55,100 words on NaNoWriMo story.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Wouldn't a nano story be very, very small?

Posted by: SFGoth at November 30, 2022 12:52 PM (KAi1n)

358 Christopher Lee on stabbing people

https://ytube.io/3Yeu

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 30, 2022 12:52 PM (yQpMk)

359 "Never let the enemy know what you know"

I agree. Not only that, they're stroking his ego, hoping he will resurface or brag in a letter.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 30, 2022 12:52 PM (rV8Lk)

360 People are presuming a single killer. Multiple killers is quite possible.
Posted by: Long Running Fool at November 30, 2022 12:40 PM (nueTj)

Is multiple like several? Or a couple? More than one?
That would be awful. I'm confused.

Posted by: The FBI at November 30, 2022 12:52 PM (v0R5T)

361 Sharon I imagine Belize would be nice, and sleepy. Someone I knew had it as an early diplomatic assignment. He used to talk to the prime minister, in line during the morning getting coffee at a convenience store - which he could use for his "reporting" cables. He also lived on the water, had a launch, and said he could often get in short afternoon dives after "work".

Not as exciting as wearing body armor and living in sand-bagged trailers with mortars and rockets on the menu, but sounds nice.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 30, 2022 12:52 PM (OTzUX)

362 Hmmm. Brutal murder in the Pacific Northwest, and, out of the blue, Seattle Slough shows up. Coincidence? I think not.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2022 12:50 PM (tkR6S)
++++
Is Idaho considered Pacific Northwest? Parts of it really seem to be, but parts of it are way more Interior West. Where does it usually get lumped in? Transitional places are hard to figure out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 30, 2022 12:52 PM (t0OGg)

363 I have one word of advice for your vacation, Ace:
Zima.

Why do you hate Ace?

Posted by: Ian S. at November 30, 2022 12:52 PM (ZGrMX)

364 Posted by: Marcus T, Byron Donalds for Speaker at November 30, 2022 12:45 PM (vBMpQ)

And there were like 5 Girls and 1 Guy in the 4 Bedroom House? Sounds like late night noise... would have been normal there.

3 Women and 1 Man, killed... in two bedrooms? right after at least 2 of the Women had been out partying and were seen to be drunk.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 30, 2022 12:52 PM (oHd/0)

365 @338

>>Day game. Can't rule out an entire day and night of drinking keeping them asleep.

This is true, but people have this notion that after being stabbed or shot a victim is going to be going on like an overwrought Italian Soap Opera Actor.

The most amusing video I've seen is of Peter Jackson trying to coach Christopher Lee about how to act after being stabbed, he wanted Lee to make a big show of it, Lee turned to Jackson and said, Peter have you ever stabbed anyone in the back? No. Well I have and they don't do what you are asking me to do.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 30, 2022 12:52 PM (z4WDg)

366 I think I had 1 Zima. You start off thinking it's okay, but by the end you're thinking it's disgusting.

I don't think they make it anymore.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 30, 2022 12:52 PM (UuD2k)

367 ANSWER RIGHT NOW OR BE PERMANENTLY BANNED, COCKSUCKER.
---

Angry Ace is Hot Ace.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at November 30, 2022 12:52 PM (Dc2NZ)

368 ANSWER RIGHT NOW OR BE PERMANENTLY BANNED, COCKSUCKER.

Posted by: ace at November 30, 2022 12:47 PM (C1Zwz)

***

Come see the violence inherent in the system!!!

Posted by: Repressed Citizen at November 30, 2022 12:53 PM (flINI)

369 Here's an idea:

Maybe the Idaho investigators DO have evidence and leads, but they're keeping it under wraps to prevent the clickbait media from reporting it and possibly tipping off the perpetrator
==
They always hold stuff back. Always. For a bunch of reasons, one of which is to identify potential copy cats if there is a serial and somebody else tries to ride in his shadow. Which happens.

Posted by: yeah okay - qualifier at November 30, 2022 12:53 PM (xSecF)

370 I haven't seen or heard this story anywhere except vague references at the same time as the UVA killing. I had to do a search. I seriously doubt the left-media in Seatyle are coving it, but if analwart is correct it's only because Idaho is close to Washington state. There is zero coverage on the east coast. Zero.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 30, 2022 12:53 PM (HMTci)

371 The NY Post is also referring to the knife as a "Kay-Bar styled knife," not understanding Kay-Bar is a company that makes many types of knives and many different companies make large combat-styled knives. But, weirdly, the Kay-Bar company's home office is in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, an hour and change from the murders, and the home town of I think two of the victims.

Posted by: Marcus Gravey at November 30, 2022 12:53 PM (516e+)

372 Zombie Ted Bundy

-
Actor Clint Walker was a zombie.

In May 1971, Walker narrowly escaped death in a skiing accident at Mammoth Mountain, California. While following the contours of the twisting, irregular terrain Walker began tumbling out of control before coming to an abrupt, violent stop in which he was pierced through the heart with a ski pole. He was taken to a hospital and pronounced dead. However, a doctor detected faint signs of life and rushed Walker to surgery, where his damaged heart was repaired. Within two months, Walker was working again.[19][20] Walker has said about the accident that he had a near-death experience.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 30, 2022 12:53 PM (FVME7)

373 @358

>>Christopher Lee on stabbing people

The Hoard Mind is Real and it's spectacular.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 30, 2022 12:53 PM (z4WDg)

374 think I had 1 Zima. You start off thinking it's okay, but by the end you're thinking it's disgusting.

I don't think they make it anymore.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 30, 2022 12:52 PM (UuD2k)
++++
Coors trots it out on occasion, I guess for the nostalgia market.

And yeah, Zima isn't good. But it was the first "premium malt beverage" that I am aware of, and got the whole dang party started. It's OG.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 30, 2022 12:53 PM (t0OGg)

375 352 I have one word of advice for your vacation, Ace:
Zima.

Stick with the original. None of that Smirnoff Ice or other knock-offs. Plus people will ask you what the hell you're drinking, so it will be a conversation-starter.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 30, 2022 12:50 PM (t0OGg)

You're saying you want ace to get hit on by gheys?

Posted by: Not to stereotype...BUT... at November 30, 2022 12:53 PM (yOepa)

376 "any of ten thousand completely fungible, acceptable substitutes."

There are NO substitutes for AOS or we wouldn't be here, would we???

Stop negging your own fanclub, Ace!

Posted by: SFGoth at November 30, 2022 12:53 PM (KAi1n)

377 Hmmm. Brutal murder in the Pacific Northwest, and, out of the blue, Seattle Slough shows up. Coincidence? I think not.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2022 12:50 PM (tkR6S)
........

He could be Bigfoot.

Posted by: The FBI at November 30, 2022 12:53 PM (v0R5T)

378 So "homosexual" is offensive to trans.

My, how the turn tables.

Posted by: ... at November 30, 2022 12:54 PM (RZSup)

379 355 How could they possibly know they didn't feel any pain? I can't imagine anything worse than being stabbed to death. I hope they find the scum who did this.
Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at November 30, 2022 12:44 PM (nxdel)

reading between the lines, I'd guess that the victims throat's were slashed open right off the bat. While that doesn't translate to "no pain", it would mean that they died very quickly. It also would explain why none of them made any noise.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2022 12:54 PM (trdmm)

380 possible; but if it looks like the same weapon used for all 4, probably not. Also, with multiple killers you'd have to look for another motive, like someone paid them to do it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2022 12:48 PM (trdmm)

Yeah, other than professionals, tandem killers are quite rare.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2022 12:54 PM (YV6PJ)

381 You're saying you want ace to get hit on by gheys?
Posted by: Not to stereotype...BUT... at November 30, 2022 12:53 PM (yOepa)
++++
Really? Was Zima a gay thing? I thought it was a chick thing!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 30, 2022 12:54 PM (t0OGg)

382 This is NOT Bundy's MO! He pretended to be disabled and asked strangers to help him get something in his car. He would then handcuff them to the seat and take them out to the woods. The next to the last murder he did was the one with the co-eds and that was the only such (known) murder he did like that.

What worries me is that McCain article mentions a stabbing murder in Washougal WA back in 2020. That was in the county I was living in and I didn't hear about it. Of course, you only get local news from Portland in that area.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 30, 2022 12:54 PM (uz3Px)

383 216 Posted by: Seattle Slough at November 30, 2022 12:33 PM (KcqqB)

You seem nice.
Posted by: Tim Finnigan

Hypotheses: Anyone that laughs at their own posts are the same people that like the smell of their own farts.

Also gamma.

Posted by: whig at November 30, 2022 12:54 PM (bDjBG)

384 ANSWER RIGHT NOW OR BE PERMANENTLY BANNED, COCKSUCKER.

Posted by: ace at November 30, 2022 12:47 PM (C1Zwz)
==
This is democracy manifest!!
*Ace pushes guy into the back of the ban car*
Why are you touching my penis?!
*Ace maces smart alec*

Posted by: yeah okay - qualifier at November 30, 2022 12:55 PM (UnD5P)

385 It was the German groundskeeper!

Posted by: Charles Lindburgh, Jr. at November 30, 2022 12:55 PM (w9Wax)

386 >>>I have one word of advice for your vacation, Ace:
Zima.

I'm a Bartles & Jaymes man, to be honest. Never had much truck with that newfangled Zima crap.

Posted by: ace at November 30, 2022 12:55 PM (C1Zwz)

387 Christopher Lee on stabbing people

https://ytube.io/3Yeu
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 30, 2022 12:52 PM (yQpMk)

Dude was bad-ass.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at November 30, 2022 12:55 PM (UQUAY)

388 But it was the first "premium malt beverage" that I am aware of, and got the whole dang party started. It's OG.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 30, 2022 12:53 PM

Original Ghey?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 30, 2022 12:55 PM (bFu5X)

389 "Well, F. Joe has declared, multiple times now, that it's stochastic open season on State-approved victims (and with no bag limit!) ... so State-sanctioned murderers have that going for them."

and so did Hillary ... deplorable, irredeemable, racists, xenophobes ... gee, what was she suggesting be done to ("worthless") people like that?

Posted by: illiniwek at November 30, 2022 12:55 PM (Cus5s)

390 I get paid more than $85 every hour for working on the web. I found out about this activity 3 months prior and subsequent to joining this I have earned effectively $15k from this without having internet working abilities .

Copy underneath the site to check it.. Pr𝐨fit97.Com

Posted by: Tom at November 30, 2022 12:56 PM (wnVSB)

391 My quick and lame speculation...

1. Think Ted Bundy when he killed those 4 sorority girls in FL. Completely at random.

or

2. The murders in Ohio from a few years back where it took them several years to charge the other family that had moved away and come to find out it was a custody dispute boiled over.

So either random or some connection we don't yet know about.

Posted by: Lex at November 30, 2022 12:56 PM (t983B)

392 330 ANSWER RIGHT NOW OR BE PERMANENTLY BANNED, COCKSUCKER.

Posted by: ace at November 30, 2022 12:47 PM

Straight to fury mode. A Righteous Ewok. With a poster with "Seattle" in the nic. Can Ace's heightened senses detect a hobo through the internet?

Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 30, 2022 12:56 PM (tnYNT)

393 Really? Was Zima a gay thing? I thought it was a chick thing!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 30, 2022 12:54 PM (t0OGg)

Wasn't called "Queer Beer" for nothin'.

Posted by: Still not trying to stereotype...BUT... at November 30, 2022 12:57 PM (yOepa)

394 Coors trots it out on occasion, I guess for the nostalgia market.

***

I once had the Coors Trots in La Jolla in '08

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 30, 2022 12:57 PM (flINI)

395 i added a bit about forensic evidence

Posted by: ace at November 30, 2022 12:57 PM (C1Zwz)

396 Christopher Lee on stabbing people

https://ytube.io/3Yeu
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 30, 2022 12:52 PM (yQpMk)

Dude was bad-ass.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at November 30, 2022 12:55 PM (UQUAY)
***

RAF, Intel Officer and SOE. Yeah...he did his part.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2022 12:57 PM (anj39)

397 The only thing I know is that it almost certainly was not an actual ka-bar knife, because that's what they said it is and it's never actually what they say it is, because they're always either ignorant or lying or both.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 30, 2022 12:57 PM (6FeV1)

398 What are "internet working abilities"? Is that like a woman having a web cam and stripping online for money?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 30, 2022 12:57 PM (uNylN)

399 Police have confirmed the killer is a sad, electric car enthusiast.

Posted by: ... at November 30, 2022 12:57 PM (RZSup)

400 Tom you asshole, quit trying to muscle in on my territory!

Posted by: Sarah at November 30, 2022 12:57 PM (yOepa)

401 My boss is a good man, but keeps his personal life pretty guarded. he was a Marine but never talks about it and never celebrates Veteran's day with the other three vets in the office. I recall him once saying, though, that his hernia hurt worse than when he was stabbed with a knife.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at November 30, 2022 12:57 PM (UQUAY)

402 Looks like Sarah transitioned.

Posted by: wth at November 30, 2022 12:58 PM (v0R5T)

403 Excuse me, I ordered a Zima, not emphysema.

Posted by: guy at the restaurant when Selma lights up at November 30, 2022 12:58 PM (h5TKJ)

404 Straight to fury mode. A Righteous Ewok. With a poster with "Seattle" in the nic. Can Ace's heightened senses detect a hobo through the internet?
==
It is a long long long time troll.

Posted by: yeah okay - qualifier at November 30, 2022 12:58 PM (b5jcH)

405 ANSWER RIGHT NOW OR BE PERMANENTLY BANNED, COCKSUCKER.

Posted by: ace at November 30, 2022 12:47 PM

Straight to fury mode. A Righteous Ewok. With a poster with "Seattle" in the nic. Can Ace's heightened senses detect a hobo through the internet?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 30, 2022 12:56 PM (tnYNT)
***

Somewhere in Seattle Nurse R's phone received a coded text.
John has a long moustache.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2022 12:58 PM (anj39)

406 BUCK Knives is in Post Falls Idaho. Think they were originally in SoCal.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 30, 2022 12:58 PM (u4CEu)

407 Cozumel gunned up? Wasn't that way when I was there, but that was the 90s.

For diving and gunz, nothing could beat Pulau Sipadan, off northern Borneo, where to sort of maintain their weak and hopeless claims to the place, Indonesia would send naval patrol craft to circle the island (just a tiny point of a coral pinnacle in deep water) on a daily basis. Malaysia - actual owner of the island - would reciprocate, with their patrol craft circling once a day.

All was peaceful, just symbolic stuff. And the distinct small shockwave of the coastal dynamite fishing 5 miles away that you felt while in the water was just a color element.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 30, 2022 12:58 PM (OTzUX)

408 "Can heartily reco Japan during the holidays...
And - no knife murders. And no street crime, really."

Actually knife murders are about all they have. When I was there about 15 years back, some rando grabbed a knife off a shelf at a department store and stabbed a bunch of people.

They kept all the knives at the customer service desk for a while after that.

And sure, no street crime... as long as you don't count people stealing your umbrella or bicycle.

But yeah, Japan's a nice place. I'd like to go back and visit sometime.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 30, 2022 12:58 PM (5M1qh)

409 In other news, at 55,100 words on NaNoWriMo story.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2022

***
All since Nov. 1? Wow! Will you be able to type "THE END" by midnight tonight?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2022 12:58 PM (J2vNu)

410 "With the internet, you can also read how to kill quickly and stealthily with a knife. You don't need to be a pro. Stabbing someone a certain way can keep them from making noise. Several of the vics apparently had defensive wounds. Passed out after drinking or even deep sleeping after alcohol use has the effect of decreasing your awareness/alertness and potentially reducing sensation related to any wounds. If they were wounded in the heart or aortic arteries they would be debilitated and bleed out pretty quickly. Pure speculation, but it looks like someone planned and at least did some cursory research. The victims were in a very compromised position.
Posted by: Marcus T, Byron Donalds"

And just where where did you say you were the night of the killings?

Posted by: Ripley at November 30, 2022 12:58 PM (MxEKc)

411 Honestly, how can I pass up a $50 revolver?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 30, 2022 12:58 PM (yQpMk)

412 Here's an idea:

Maybe the Idaho investigators DO have evidence and leads, but they're keeping it under wraps to prevent the clickbait media from reporting it and possibly tipping off the perpetrator
Posted by: DB

This is what I am hoping! We're less than 100 miles away. Lots of places for perp to hide in between here and there... We keep everything locked both day and night anyway, but, being 29, we'd be disadvantaged in a confrontation with this creep.

I no longer curse the snow-- it provides tattletale tracks. (Iron-clad excuse to not shovel any more than the minimum!)

Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2022 12:58 PM (o0Fxd)

413 I once had the Coors Trots in La Jolla in '08
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 30, 2022 12:57 PM (flINI)
++++
The day-after gastrointestinal distress caused by drinking copious amounts of cheap beer during the previous night is called "Schlitzkrieg"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 30, 2022 12:59 PM (t0OGg)

414 An unknown assailant could not have drugged them all or known that they were incapacitated by drugs or alcohol. I am still going with pissed off person, maybe the girl's stalker, who could know this.

Posted by: CN at November 30, 2022 12:59 PM (Zzbjj)

415 Sounds like a slasher movie copycat. Ugh.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at November 30, 2022 12:59 PM (V6f9+)

416 Police say it was a 'brutal' piece of hardware used to kill them and they felt no pain. We don't know the details of each body, so there's a chance the killer wacked them in the throat or dealt such a killing blow, there wasn't much noise involved with each kill.

If they're sleeping in separate rooms, and possibly drunk sleeping, it's very feasible.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 30, 2022 12:59 PM (Zz0t1)

417 >>>387 Christopher Lee on stabbing people
https://ytube.io/3Yeu

i just saw a clip of that because I watched Dark Corners' videos about Christopher Lee and the Hammer Dracula films.

Posted by: ace at November 30, 2022 12:59 PM (C1Zwz)

418 Really? Was Zima a gay thing? I thought it was a chick thing!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 30, 2022 12:54 PM (t0OGg)

Wasn't called "Queer Beer" for nothin'.
Posted by: Still not trying to stereotype...BUT... at November 30, 2022 12:57 PM (yOepa)

Check out Mad TV's Michael McDonald as Rusty. Answers a lot of questions.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at November 30, 2022 12:59 PM (UQUAY)

419 Elon Musk says, "The obvious reality, as long-time users know, is that Twitter has failed in trust & safety for a very long time and has interfered in elections."

https://bit.ly/3ESbfUM

Posted by: bonhomme at November 30, 2022 12:59 PM (eyxn4)

420 394
I once had the Coors Trots in La Jolla in '08
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 30, 2022 12:57 PM (flINI)

Piker

Posted by: Genesee Screamers at November 30, 2022 12:59 PM (N39Ws)

421 399 Police have confirmed the killer is a sad, electric car enthusiast.
Posted by: ...

Heh. Ellipsis brings the heat.

Posted by: whig at November 30, 2022 12:59 PM (bDjBG)

422 Honestly, how can I pass up a $50 revolver?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 30, 2022 12:58 PM (yQpMk)

I just bought 200 rounds of 5.56 for under $100+$12 shipping.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 30, 2022 12:59 PM (Zz0t1)

423 Twitter doesn't call you a cocksucker when they ban you for life which is already like a hundred steps behind the curve.

Posted by: ... at November 30, 2022 12:59 PM (RZSup)

424 @397

>>The only thing I know is that it almost certainly was not an actual ka-bar knife, because that's what they said it is and it's never actually what they say it is, because they're always either ignorant or lying or both.

They said it was a "brutal weapon" so that leads me to believe it was a Kukri type knife.

KaBar makes such a knife, and Kabar is always stamped on the knife, so it's kind of hard to f**k that bit of info up.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 30, 2022 01:00 PM (z4WDg)

425 Can you tell I'm not interested in crime or politics today and my guess is we are coming to the end of this thread and it sounds like I need to go get a flu shot so have a great day all.
BBL

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 30, 2022 01:00 PM (Y+l9t)

426 I once had the Coors Trots in La Jolla in '08
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 30, 2022 12:57 PM (flINI)

Piker
Posted by: Genesee Screamers at November 30, 2022 12:59 PM (N39Ws)

Ok. That's damn funny right there.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 30, 2022 01:00 PM (Zz0t1)

427 This is known in Chicago as 'another Saturday nite'.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. From Cicero. at November 30, 2022 01:00 PM (3Or4S)

428 Zima is pretty nasty. It's got an odd, off-putting taste that I never understood why people would drink it. I'm not one for sweet drinks, but at least there I can understand why people would like it. But Zima? Tastes like ass.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 30, 2022 01:00 PM (iFTx/)

429 It could have been Sundance from CTH. After that latest rant on Harmeet, I'm pretty sure he's nuttier than squirrel shit.

Posted by: Marcus T, Byron Donalds for Speaker at November 30, 2022 01:00 PM (vBMpQ)

430 Buck Knives moved from El Cajon (San Diego area) to ID years ago, one of the early high-profile (relatively) exits of small manufacturers, who of course are generally persecuted and unloved in CA (they make actual, icky "stuff" that isn't software or surf gear).

Posted by: rhomboid at November 30, 2022 01:00 PM (OTzUX)

431 411 Honestly, how can I pass up a $50 revolver?
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

If it costs $500 worth of gunsmithing to fix.

Posted by: whig at November 30, 2022 01:00 PM (bDjBG)

432
I suspect some foreign exchange student who tried to hit on the girls at the club got rejected and sought revenge.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 30, 2022 01:01 PM (enJYY)

433 I stick around because, like Mayonnaise, I got nowhere else to go.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

My wife used mayonnaise to treat head lice, so there is that.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2022 01:01 PM (xhaym)

434 I've been of a different mind on this situation. Exactly why are they giving it a lot of coverage? At first I assumed one of the victims is related to someone really rich or with a lot of pull but we'd know that already if that was the case. I think it's just something they know will get lots of clicks if they heavily cover it (and they are). Like Casey Anthony or the girl who disappeared in Aruba way back in the day. The media used to do this a lot because it's guaranteed income. It largely seemed to vanish when Tronald Drumpf appeared on the scene and everything became political 24/7.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 30, 2022 01:01 PM (QRdjz)

435 Our beer fridge at work has a picture of Fred from Scooby Doo pulling the mask off a can of seltzer, revealing a bottle of Zima.

And yes, our office has a beer fridge.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at November 30, 2022 01:01 PM (UQUAY)

436 The fact that no one woke up suggests to me that the killer knew military/special ops methods of silent murder, i.e. how to slit a throat so no air can pass over the vocal cords.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 30, 2022 01:01 PM (w9Wax)

437 @432

>>I suspect some foreign exchange student who tried to hit on the girls at the club got rejected and sought revenge.

Are you suggesting The Donger did it?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 30, 2022 01:01 PM (z4WDg)

438 If it costs $500 worth of gunsmithing to fix.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2022 01:00 PM (bDjBG)

It's brand new! I mean, if it turns out not to be reliable, just throw it into a closet.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 30, 2022 01:02 PM (yQpMk)

439 And yes, our office has a beer fridge.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at November 30, 2022 01:01 PM (UQUAY)

Are you hiring?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 30, 2022 01:02 PM (UuD2k)

440 Really? Was Zima a gay thing? I thought it was a chick thing!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 30, 2022 12:54 PM (t0OGg)
----------
Zima was sold on Babylon 5!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 30, 2022 01:02 PM (AuTCi)

441 I look at empty magazines the same way I look at empty ice-trays.

Posted by: Bourbonchicken at November 30, 2022 01:02 PM (44ww/)

442 Honestly, how can I pass up a $50 revolver?
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

When you get fucked on the rebate.

AIN'T THAT RIGHT REMINGTON???

Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 01:02 PM (aKxz7)

443 It was the Ring Wraiths

Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud at November 30, 2022 01:02 PM (EpDzw)

444 Police say it was a 'brutal' piece of hardware used to kill them and they felt no pain.

Some stories have said that some of the victims had defensive wounds, which would suggest a less than painless death, however short in duration.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at November 30, 2022 01:02 PM (ppBhU)

445 I live in the region and I am an alumn of the University of Idaho. I don't believe a fucking syllable that the FBI says.

Posted by: Ptlahy at November 30, 2022 01:02 PM (N5esU)

446 435 Our beer fridge at work has a picture of Fred from Scooby Doo pulling the mask off a can of seltzer, revealing a bottle of Zima.

And yes, our office has a beer fridge.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at November 30, 2022 01:01 PM (UQUAY)

Any chance you guys are hiring?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 30, 2022 01:02 PM (N39Ws)

447 I know we would all like to think the Moscow cops, the Idaho State Police and the FBI are good at their jobs and will find the killer but the more realist outcome will be, he is never found. Or it will be years down the road after he's caught in the act of another murder or crime.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 30, 2022 01:02 PM (76Foq)

448 Ace called us fungible! He likes us he really likes us!

At Boeing we were required to have this folder in a certain place in our desk that records everything we do and how we do it. Now there's a good way and a bad way to explain this to a fresh young employee. Boeing's way was to tell us that we were a warm body and if at any time we were laid off, run over by a bus, or mauled to death by a pterodactyl then they would place another warm body there who would open the folder and start. We were fungible.

[aofhq folder for banana Dream] write a lot of mostly dumb stuff and don't worry about Grammer or punctuation, sock at least once per day

Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2022 01:03 PM (+3jTj)

449 429 It could have been Sundance from CTH. After that latest rant on Harmeet, I'm pretty sure he's nuttier than squirrel shit.
Posted by: Marcus T, Byron Donalds for Speaker

He's long been one that Steve McIntyre (ClimateAudit) and some of the others have kept somewhat at arm's length, everything he turns up proves to be less than what he claims.

Posted by: JEM at November 30, 2022 01:03 PM (8erNz)

450 When you get fucked on the rebate.

AIN'T THAT RIGHT REMINGTON???
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 01:02 PM (aKxz7)

Did you get screwed? I've gotten maybe ten rebates over the years with no problems.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 30, 2022 01:03 PM (yQpMk)

451 Wasn't called "Queer Beer" for nothin'.
Posted by: Still not trying to stereotype...BUT... at November 30, 2022 12:57 PM (yOepa)

SNL back when it was still funny...
https://youtu.be/hCOSejS1SSY

Posted by: Doof at November 30, 2022 01:03 PM (ChAEn)

452 Police say it was a 'brutal' piece of hardware used to kill them and they felt no pain.
==
The killer was an anesthesiologist.

Posted by: elementary my good ewok! at November 30, 2022 01:03 PM (b5jcH)

453 Zima is pretty nasty. It's got an odd, off-putting taste that I never understood why people would drink it. I'm not one for sweet drinks, but at least there I can understand why people would like it. But Zima? Tastes like ass.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 30, 2022 01:00 PM

Can't stand that stuff. My wife used to buy that and I tasted it a few times. Had a weird metallic taste to it even though it was in a glass bottle.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 30, 2022 01:03 PM (uNylN)

454 I might just ask readers to accept that it's going to be week of open threads.

You'd have to get pretty dis-connected to not hear the call to cruelty for a whole week.

Posted by: DaveA at November 30, 2022 01:03 PM (FhXTo)

455
When you get fucked on the rebate.

AIN'T THAT RIGHT REMINGTON???
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 01:02 PM (aKxz7)

It took 20 weeks, but I finally got my rebate from them when I bought my 1911.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 30, 2022 01:03 PM (Zz0t1)

456 Did you get screwed? I've gotten maybe ten rebates over the years with no problems.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

Fucked. Royally. Fuck Remington.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 01:03 PM (aKxz7)

457 You're about 20% incorrect there.

Posted by: Maths? Sorta kinda. at November 30, 2022 12:48 PM (yOepa)

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

Posted by: ... at November 30, 2022 01:04 PM (XzqCj)

458 The victims were in a very compromised position.

Possibly a HumancentiPad

Posted by: The FBI at November 30, 2022 01:04 PM (v0R5T)

459 I suspect some foreign exchange student who tried to hit on the girls at the club got rejected and sought revenge.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 30, 2022 01:01 PM (enJYY)

We have plenty of home grown incels, we don't need to be importing them.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2022 01:04 PM (YV6PJ)

460 Could have been a mother who changed her mind.

Posted by: ... at November 30, 2022 01:04 PM (XzqCj)

461 Honestly, how can I pass up a $50 revolver?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 30, 2022 12:58 PM (yQpMk)
===

You can live in Kalifornia like me and not be allowed a $50 revolver.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 30, 2022 01:04 PM (u4CEu)

462 Zima was made with one quarter semen

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 30, 2022 01:04 PM (flINI)

463 But Zima? Tastes like ass.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 30, 2022 01:00 PM

So you know what Zima and ass taste like?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 30, 2022 01:04 PM (UuD2k)

464 But Zima? Tastes like ass.

I'll take your word for it.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 01:05 PM (eOEVl)

465 Zima was like carbonated vinegar IIRC

Posted by: ... at November 30, 2022 01:05 PM (XzqCj)

466 If you can do a rebate, you can knock the difference off at the point of sale.

You want my money up front?
I want my rebate up front.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 01:05 PM (aKxz7)

467
Soldiers aren't "cutting them down", so Four Dead in Idaho is not such a big deal.

Same amount of deaths as Ohio, just not as big of an alarm.

Posted by: Axeman at November 30, 2022 01:05 PM (krQz2)

468 Really? Was Zima a gay thing? I thought it was a chick thing!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 30, 2022 12:54 PM (t0OGg)

Embrace the healing power of "and".

Posted by: Ian S. at November 30, 2022 01:05 PM (ZGrMX)

469 There are no end of people out there needing to be slapped around some on thread topics

Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2022 01:05 PM (xhxe8)

470 Ace is leaving for a week! Yay! Party time! Ace never locks the Valu-rite cabinet!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. From Cicero. at November 30, 2022 01:05 PM (3Or4S)

471 And yes, our office has a beer fridge.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at November 30, 2022 01:01 PM (UQUAY)

Are you hiring?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 30, 2022 01:02 PM (UuD2k)

Yes we are, actually. Are you a civil engineer or have experience in land survey at any level? We're pretty busy even as winter is approaching.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at November 30, 2022 01:06 PM (UQUAY)

472 But Zima? Tastes like ass.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 30, 2022 01:00 PM

Dude - that's offensive

Posted by: Ass at November 30, 2022 01:06 PM (ChAEn)

473 So you know what Zima and ass taste like?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Look. It was dark and I was really, really drunk - okay?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 30, 2022 01:06 PM (qoGsy)

474 But Zima? Tastes like ass.

I'll take your word for it.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 01:05 PM (eOEVl)
---
Indeed. Having never tasted ass, I can't do the taste comparison.

Posted by: Axeman at November 30, 2022 01:06 PM (krQz2)

475 My God I stopped paying attention to Sundance sometime in early 2017. Was an interesting read before that but then very quickly seemed several turnips short of a truck.

Posted by: ... at November 30, 2022 01:06 PM (XzqCj)

476 Week of open threads? Aside from the first 100 on the art thread, which threads aren't already open threads?

It's madness, chaos, I tell you!

There's even gun talk.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 30, 2022 01:06 PM (OTzUX)

477 Don't think ever had a Zima

Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2022 01:06 PM (xhxe8)

478 John Kirby says China marveled at speed & efficiency of Biden’s Afghanistan withdrawal

-
Joe was in and out like Zorro!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 30, 2022 01:06 PM (FVME7)

479 438 If it costs $500 worth of gunsmithing to fix.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2022 01:00 PM (bDjBG)

It's brand new! I mean, if it turns out not to be reliable, just throw it into a closet.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

--------------------------
Quality control ain't what it used to be. Mfgs have figured out it is cheaper to do returns than spend the money on quality control. After all, some people never fire the firearm that they purchase and others rather than dealing with the hassle do as you proposed--throw it in the closet.

Posted by: whig at November 30, 2022 01:06 PM (bDjBG)

480 But Zima? Tastes like ass.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 30, 2022 01:00 PM

See "Queer Beer", supra.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 30, 2022 01:06 PM (bFu5X)

481 Have we ruled out a five person late night underwear hammer party?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 30, 2022 01:06 PM (u4CEu)

482 Christopher Lee was in a metal band, too.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 30, 2022 01:07 PM (y3pg4)

483 SNL back when it was still funny...
https://youtu.be/hCOSejS1SSY
Posted by: Doof at November 30, 2022 01:03 PM (ChAEn)
++++
Ah, the unmistakable voice of Phil Hartman on the voiceover.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 30, 2022 01:07 PM (t0OGg)

484 > I've been of a different mind on this situation. Exactly why are they giving it a lot of coverage?

clicks
site views
White Girl Down syndrome

Posted by: DB at November 30, 2022 01:07 PM (geLO8)

485 Had a weird metallic taste to it even though it was in a glass bottle.

I had Zima exactly once in the mid 90s. 100% on the weird metallic taste, and I turned down a second even though they were free.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 30, 2022 01:07 PM (ZGrMX)

486 >>> Not true. We feel you are better than leprosy, and equal to anal warts.

What about lepers with anal warts?
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 12:50 PM (eOEVl)

I'm actually pretty frightened that some day my toe fungus advertisements are going to join up with my prostate advertisements and start advertising fungal toe stuck in prostate cures.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2022 01:07 PM (+3jTj)

487 When you get fucked on the rebate.

AIN'T THAT RIGHT REMINGTON???

I am DONE with mail in rebates. They're a pain in the butt and the fly by night companies that manage the rebates often screw up. If you manage to get your rebate, it's often many weeks to months later.

And who do you complain to? If you talk to the manufacturer's company, they'll tell you to go bug fly by night company, because they manage the rebate.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 30, 2022 01:07 PM (eyxn4)

488 419 Elon Musk says, "The obvious reality, as long-time users know, is that Twitter has failed in trust & safety for a very long time and has interfered in elections."

https://bit.ly/3ESbfUM
Posted by: bonhomme at November 30, 2022 12:59 PM (eyxn4)

Besides the obvious, Musk is also pointedly ridiculing the now departed Yoel Roth, who was the official "Head of Trust and Safety" at old twitter.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2022 01:07 PM (trdmm)

489 But Zima? Tastes like ass.

I'll take your word for it.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2022 01:05 PM (eOEVl)
---
Indeed. Having never tasted ass, I can't do the taste comparison.
Posted by: Axeman

A lot of you have never snorted coke off a hooker's ass! And it shows!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 01:07 PM (aKxz7)

490 >SNL back when it was still funny...

ah, I knew what this was before I even clicked
funny stuff

Posted by: DB at November 30, 2022 01:08 PM (geLO8)

491 Hmm, brutal weapon. Has anyone checked for DNA from Stacey Abrams' Snatch?

Posted by: ... at November 30, 2022 01:08 PM (XzqCj)

492 Are you hiring?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 30, 2022 01:02 PM (UuD2k)

Yes we are, actually. Are you a civil engineer or have experience in land survey at any level? We're pretty busy even as winter is approaching.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at November 30, 2022 01:06 PM (UQUAY)
***

How about an architect with a Masters and 10 years experience? Nephew got laid off.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2022 01:08 PM (anj39)

493 I am DONE with mail in rebates. They're a pain in the butt and the fly by night companies that manage the rebates often screw up. If you manage to get your rebate, it's often many weeks to months later.

And who do you complain to? If you talk to the manufacturer's company, they'll tell you to go bug fly by night company, because they manage the rebate.
Posted by: bonhomme

DING DING FUCKING DING!!

NAILED IT.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 01:08 PM (aKxz7)

494 "My quick and lame speculation...

1. Think Ted Bundy when he killed those 4 sorority girls in FL. Completely at random."

Not lame at all. Random in that Bundy was in the same bar as the co-eds. Lots of potential linkage here,

I would guess this angle is being heavily investigated, quietly. They are probably trying to back track all their comings and goings and talk to as many people as possible to identify anything odd.

Posted by: RM at November 30, 2022 01:08 PM (0eYOS)

495 SNL back when it was still funny...
https://youtu.be/hCOSejS1SSY
Posted by: Doof at November 30, 2022 01:03 PM (ChAEn)
++++
Ah, the unmistakable voice of Phil Hartman on the voiceover.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 30, 2022 01:07 PM (t0OGg)

AKA Troy McClure!!

Posted by: Doof at November 30, 2022 01:08 PM (ChAEn)

496 What I thought was the "second story" is actually the third story.
---
Well that's a whole different story!

Posted by: Axeman at November 30, 2022 01:08 PM (krQz2)

497 Don't think ever had a Zima

Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2022 01:06 PM (xhxe

==

It's like drinking carbonated peppermint schnapps but not as good. If you can't wash a Zima down your lips get stuck together.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 30, 2022 01:09 PM (u4CEu)

498 Posted by: ace at November 30, 2022 12:47 PM (C1Zwz)

I love the word fungible. I know what it really means, but it sounds like some edible fungus. I just donated through Pay Pay,,Ace-(a small amount because I'm a penurious pastor ) I don't really like PayPay, but you need to be supported.

Hey everybody, consider donating to Ace today so he can have a good feeling before he hopefully goes on a vacation.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 30, 2022 01:09 PM (vH/6k)

499 Man, it's not just the stubby barkeeps at that $50 price.

https://bityl.co/Fx0K

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 30, 2022 01:09 PM (yQpMk)

500 'brutal weapon'

to paraphrase COL Jessup: is there another kind?

Posted by: DB at November 30, 2022 01:09 PM (geLO8)

501 ah, I knew what this was before I even clicked
funny stuff
Posted by: DB at November 30, 2022 01:08 PM (geLO

It was a hanging curveball -- I had to do it

Posted by: Doof at November 30, 2022 01:10 PM (ChAEn)

502 "I believe the murders happened on a Friday night and they could have been in a drunken stupor."

Saturday night, at a slightly-off-campus party house. Yes, mostly likely drunk.

"Is Idaho Pacific Northwest?"

Inland Northwest, technically. Between the Cascades and the Rockies. Pacific Northwest would be west of the Cascades. "Midwest" doesn't start until the east side of the Rockies.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 30, 2022 01:10 PM (5M1qh)

503
AKA Troy McClure!!
Posted by: Doof at November 30, 2022 01:08 PM (ChAEn)

You asked for it.......

https://youtu.be/Y6jSKetRBU0?t=3

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 30, 2022 01:10 PM (Zz0t1)

504 Even without the rebate $80 is a great price.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 30, 2022 01:11 PM (yQpMk)

505
We can infer the perp didn't have a cell phone on him - cause they can geolocate with ease. So that means it's definitely a male.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 30, 2022 01:11 PM (enJYY)

506 Tried Zima when it first came out (pun intended)--

Tasted like part beer and part plain wine cooler (remember those?), and watered waaayy down. Yuck.

Not- quite- flavorless, just like any of today's disgusting seltzer drinks.

Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2022 01:11 PM (o0Fxd)

507 447 I know we would all like to think the Moscow cops, the Idaho State Police and the FBI are good at their jobs and will find the killer but the more realist outcome will be, he is never found. Or it will be years down the road after he's caught in the act of another murder or crime.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 30, 2022 01:02 PM (76Foq)

well cops talk about the first 48 hours - if you don't have a perp identified (even though not proven) in the first 48 hours, it gets an order of magnitude harder to figure out who it was. It means no witnesses, no obvious clues. Many times investigators have to wait on a lucky break, like the perp getting drunk and bragging about what he did to someone.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2022 01:12 PM (trdmm)

508 nood

Tom Nichols

Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2022 01:12 PM (+3jTj)

509 'brutal weapon'

Early on in this story the media fu*ktards were saying a "Rambo-Styled weapon" and promptly started bitching about the ROTC offices on campus.

Dipshits.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2022 01:12 PM (anj39)

510 Anyone check to see if the FBI sent the guy that investigated the pussy hat wearing shooter from Vegas?

Because I'm sure he'll get to the bottom of things

Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2022 01:12 PM (ESjRY)

511 Someone get Durham on the case so it can be solved and put to bed by 2047.

Posted by: ... at November 30, 2022 01:12 PM (XzqCj)

512 A lot of you have never snorted coke off a hooker's ass! And it shows!
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2022 01:07 PM (aKxz7)
---
That's why Hunter won't hang out with us.

Posted by: Axeman at November 30, 2022 01:12 PM (krQz2)

513 Ace is leaving for a week! Yay! Party time! Ace never locks the Valu-rite cabinet!
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. From Cicero. at November 30, 2022

***
Yeah, but he does lock up the can and bottle openers. And only he knows the password for the age verification on the entertainment system.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2022 01:12 PM (J2vNu)

514 475 My God I stopped paying attention to Sundance sometime in early 2017. Was an interesting read before that but then very quickly seemed several turnips short of a truck.
Posted by: ...

--------------------------
I read his stuff occasionally as when Ace or someone else highlights it. Unfortunately, guys always give a pretty girl a pass on evaluation. I find it very plausible that Harmeet is an incompetent attorney and has a conflict of interest in being paid by the RNC to do lawyering and then voting as a RNC assembly representative on whether Ronna should stay or go.

That same sort of insider crap destroyed the NRA's effectiveness. Outsiders like the Bloomberg group or AG James hate the NRA but it turns out their description of its leaders and board as self dealing pieces of shit grabbing every donor and member bucks that they could grab was also true.

It is said, bless our adversaries because they reveal our own faults. In this case, I find it thoroughly believable that an incompetent nepotism hire as GOP chief would seek out similar mediocrities to band together to keep the grift going. Same as the Senate GOP caucus voting by a large margin for McConnell.

Posted by: whig at November 30, 2022 01:12 PM (bDjBG)

515 Sundance/CTH is a weird case. He did some solid sleuthing/had surprisingly good sources on some of the early Keystone Coup stuff (DOJ, etc). He correctly highlighted the massive, key, yet generally ignored NSA database abuse ("702 queries", may be remembering this slightly wrong). Lee Smith, a more connected/conventional sort who is a serious guy when it comes to the lawless rampage of national institutions to block/hamstring Trump, has praised his work, which I found interesting.

He actually did a decent job tracking some of the trade policy stuff.

The style and general rah-rah tone will put off many. The Harmeet Dhillon stuff to me is interesting mostly because How TF do you put her and the slimy repugnant Barbour the Youngers on the same panel? LOL.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 30, 2022 01:12 PM (OTzUX)

516 AKA Troy McClure!!
Posted by: Doof at November 30, 2022 01:08 PM (ChAEn)

You asked for it.......

https://youtu.be/Y6jSKetRBU0?t=3
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 30, 2022 01:10 PM (Zz0t1)

Fistbump!

Posted by: Doof at November 30, 2022 01:12 PM (ChAEn)

517
First rule of Stab Club is don't take your cell phone with you.
Second rule of Stab Club is don't take your cell phone with you.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 30, 2022 01:13 PM (enJYY)

518 They said it was a "brutal weapon" so that leads me to believe it was a Kukri type knife.
KaBar makes such a knife, and Kabar is always stamped on the knife, so it's kind of hard to f**k that bit of info up.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 30, 2022 01:00 PM (z4WDg)

Tell me what a non brutal weapon is. Those monks who specialize in assassination with those pine tree car deodorizer pendants that hang from the rear view window? Gom Jabbar?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2022 01:14 PM (xhaym)

519
Not as exciting as wearing body armor and living in sand-bagged trailers with mortars and rockets on the menu, but sounds nice.
Posted by: rhomboid

So, Compton...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 30, 2022 01:14 PM (n+4am)

520 I think one killer, and this was not his first killing. They never start with a mass killing. They work up to it.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 30, 2022 01:16 PM (QSjkU)

521 Nobel Peace Prize laureate explains why we need censorship.

Alex Christy@alexchristy17
Former CNN reporter Maria Ressa told Colbert "there’s a reason why 60% of the world today is now under authoritarian rule" and that is "social media has...come in, and used free speech to stifle free speech, right?" Um, no.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 30, 2022 01:16 PM (FVME7)

522 The police recruits rundown story is dead dead dead and even though they know who the perpetrator is he's still foot loose and fancy free.

----

The other day I heard from someone who's not at all generally sympathetic to people who go after cops (and even has an "I appreciate the cops" sign in his front yard), and who's actually in a position where he might hear useful information about this specific incident, that there's a good chance that it was an accident.

~
When I heard the story, I immediately thought of heart attack or other impairment to driver caused by clot shot. Which would take it out of the news.

Posted by: AK at work at November 30, 2022 01:16 PM (o+IHV)

523 . . . Also, Illegal Alien. If it is one of the border crashers that Biden trafficked to Idaho, we will never find out who it was, or what the reason for the senseless violence was.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2022 01:17 PM (xhaym)

524 Someone who can methodically kill multiple people, with a blade of some sort, has to be a psychopath. They would have to be determined. It takes time for people to quietly bleed to death. Highly likely they have killed before and will again if not caught.

Killer had to leave some DNA. They will get them.

Posted by: Javems at November 30, 2022 01:18 PM (AmoqO)

525 Reminds me of the Rollings murders in Gainesville FL in 1990. Victims were random. No connection to killer, who was a hobo living in the woods. Got access to student apartments via sliding glass doors (which I heard the Idaho house had too? They are a big security risk). No witnesses. Took the police months to find the guy, thankfully the killings stopped because he was arrested on an unrelated charge-- when they finally tracked him down he was already in jail. But for a while the cops ruined the life of some random UF student by naming him a suspect. I think they only caught the guy after a tip from some relative of his back in Louisiana.

Posted by: PlainJane at November 30, 2022 01:22 PM (RDtcS)

526 365 Peter Jackson trying to coach Christopher Lee about how to act after being stabbed, he wanted Lee to make a big show of it, Lee turned to Jackson and said, Peter have you ever stabbed anyone in the back? No. Well I have and they don't do what you are asking me to do.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 30, 2022 12:52 PM (z4WDg)

Yikes.

Posted by: m at November 30, 2022 01:24 PM (8rTNG)

527 TV shows have people thinking that cases like this can be solved in an hour. Reality is this could take months or even years.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 30, 2022 01:25 PM (sAmhv)

528 I mean no disrespect to the dead, here - simply noting that Xana Kernodle is a really weird name. It sounds like a Babylon Bee name.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 30, 2022 12:09 PM (oINRc)

It's a Greek name. It can be short for Chrysanthe.

Posted by: PlainJane at November 30, 2022 01:27 PM (RDtcS)

529 526 365 Peter Jackson trying to coach Christopher Lee about how to act after being stabbed, he wanted Lee to make a big show of it, Lee turned to Jackson and said, Peter have you ever stabbed anyone in the back? No. Well I have and they don't do what you are asking me to do.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 30, 2022 12:52 PM (z4WDg)

Yikes.
Posted by: m

If I recall correctly, Lee was Royal AF when he was young. Not sure in what capacity.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 30, 2022 01:28 PM (sAmhv)

530 Trump did it, didn't he? Isn't he always at fault? Wasn't it an Evil Trump Conspiracy? Worse than 9-11?

Did I say it first?

Posted by: Gerry Parker at November 30, 2022 01:32 PM (QC9m/)

531 *fingersnap*

I got it! Remember that stupid bint from Montana (iirc) what skinned out a husky pup, then proudly showed off her "wolf" kill on social media?

Maybe she flipped after being ridiculed

Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2022 01:33 PM (o0Fxd)

532 "He says that the NY Post -- great conservative paper! -- called the knife an "assault knife" already."

Ace and JJ are both on fire today! Love it.

Posted by: Danimal28 at November 30, 2022 01:36 PM (klw0w)

533 Fox news is such a clownshow. Its viewers are what's wrong with American.

Posted by: MikeN at November 30, 2022 01:36 PM (jY0e3)

534 Yeah, but he does lock up the can and bottle openers.

You just have to wait until the shelf he puts them on falls off the wall - cracks 'em wide open, everytime.

Posted by: CtHillary, dead but dreaming at November 30, 2022 01:37 PM (zSyrn)

535 This will probably go down as an unsolved murder like JoBenet Ramsey. That's the one I'd like to know the truth.

Posted by: polynikes at November 30, 2022 01:39 PM (JZ+w7)

536 First rule of Stab Club is don't take your cell phone with you.
Second rule of Stab Club is don't take your cell phone with you.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 30, 2022 01:13 PM (enJYY)
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I thought at least one of those would be: stabby, stabby.

Posted by: Axeman at November 30, 2022 01:44 PM (krQz2)

537 Non-barking dogs... meh.

It was a three-storey house where the kids liked to party. No reason for the dog to react to noise on another floor.

As for the dude-- from what I read, he didn't live there, he was just staying the night with his girlfriend.

Posted by: PlainJane at November 30, 2022 01:55 PM (RDtcS)

538 The Democrat's angle is anti-cop. Complaining about all aspects of this in order to make law enforcement look bad, except for the FBI who are the heroes dealing with cops who messed it all up.

Posted by: wodun at November 30, 2022 02:04 PM (YRips)

539 55 Which Holmes story is the dog in the nighttime from?

Silver Blaze

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at November 30, 2022 02:12 PM (hRbjX)

540 Look, 100,000 people die each from fentanyl poisoning. Not overdoses, but 100,000 people poisoned by Cartels. Nobody cares so 4 white people dead in a college town does not upset anybody. Besides, they were straight.

People need to stop getting making snarky comments and barrage their elected Marxists with complaints. If only Lenin knew it would be this easy to take over this country.

Posted by: william ferrin at November 30, 2022 04:22 PM (KUzE2)

541 Obviously, the Dog did it.

What, do I have to do all the thinking around here...?

Posted by: Inspector kemp at November 30, 2022 05:56 PM (+DS2f)

542 Now if they had used aa gun the DNC would be yelling for Gun Control and Confiscation

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