Trump Will Stay Out of Georgia For Runoff Election

Donald J. Trump will not cross the Florida state line to campaign with Herschel Walker during the final week of the Georgia Senate runoff election, after both camps decided the former president's appearance carried more political risks than rewards, campaign officials for the two Republicans said on Monday.
Instead of holding one of his signature campaign rallies, Mr. Trump is planning a call with supporters in the state and will continue sending online fund-raising pleas for Mr. Walker, two people with knowledge of the planning said.
The decision to keep Mr. Trump out of the spotlight was a response largely to the former president's political style and image, which can energize his core supporters but also motivate Democratic voters and turn off significant segments of moderate Republicans.
In Georgia, that political math has become a net deficit for Mr. Trump, who opened his 2024 presidential campaign two weeks ago. In 2020, he was the first Republican presidential candidate to lose the state in 28 years. Earlier this year, his handpicked primary challengers to Gov. Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger were both trounced.
Mr. Trump also appeared to be a factor in the state's general election in November. Roughly one in three Georgia Republicans who voted said they were not supporters of Mr. Trump's "Make America Great Again" movement. Mr. Kemp won 90 percent of those voters while winning re-election by 7.5 points, according to the AP VoteCast survey of 2022 voters.

He "Truthed" this on Truth Social:

I agree with him that mail-in voting is steroids for voter fraud but this is not the moment to be suggesting that voting is futile in Georgia. I hope he's putting out more "Truths" encouraging people to vote to overcome possible Democrat fraud. Can anyone on Truth Social confirm?

Posted by: Ace at 05:09 PM

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1 Whoa

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2022 05:09 PM (Do5/p)

2 Hubby, who's from GA, has written his state off as a loss.

He knows Walker is going to lose.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 05:10 PM (isQS2)

3 We don't know we're just bots

Posted by: the 12 people that actually use Truth social at November 29, 2022 05:10 PM (kthct)

4 His family, who lives in south GA, did a lot of heavy lifting for Walker.

Sad that the cheat machine will override all that work.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 05:11 PM (isQS2)

5 He's right, you know. Funny how those in power in GA that did nothing about mail-in voting still have their jobs, no?

Posted by: Catherine at November 29, 2022 05:11 PM (ZSsrh)

6 Hubby, who's from GA, has written his state off as a loss.

......

You could say he is mailing it in.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 29, 2022 05:11 PM (g4JKw)

7 That's not Trump......something is going on.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 29, 2022 05:11 PM (uNylN)

8 Willowed:

Nood Trump
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2022 05:10 PM (Do5/p)

Dang.
No Melania.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 29, 2022 05:12 PM (anj39)

9 Is Dave in Fl still claiming Walker is going to win because "incumbents don't win runoffs?" The polling I've seen has been pretty dire.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 29, 2022 05:13 PM (NVVQz)

10 You could say he is mailing it in.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
___

We live in IL, not GA. His family still lives there.

He voted here for whoever ran against Pritzker for gov, not that it mattered any.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 05:13 PM (isQS2)

11 Thanks!

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 29, 2022 05:13 PM (rbKZ6)

12 Maybe Mitch can fly into Atlanta to get the voters to turn out.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 05:13 PM (kJLpK)

13 Ok.

Posted by: runner at November 29, 2022 05:14 PM (CJyOE)

14 "moderate Republicans"

The NYT.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 29, 2022 05:14 PM (OTzUX)

15 I get the feeling, and this is just me in my tin foil hat talking here, that Kemp cut a deal that he keeps his job and Democrats keep mailing ballots.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 29, 2022 05:14 PM (g4JKw)

16 sorry to go OT so soon. y'all need a funneh.

i'm sitting here with the ham radio on waiting for the emergency weather net to activate (we have some NC-17 weather programed for us here in north 'bama). forgot it was on. it broke squelch, scared a phart out of me, which made poor MegaRoy wake up and hit the nitous button unassing the office on the hardwood floors. i'm still snickering at him, he's peeking one eye around the doorframe checking for boogers.

off to content

Posted by: BifBewalski at November 29, 2022 05:15 PM (3CCua)

17 The Pharisees Media/NeverTrump cabal will still scream about Trump even if he says nothing.

That is how mentally wrecked they are.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2022 05:15 PM (+TCco)

18 Honestly, Trump needs a political handler. I know he'd never, never, never go for it, but he really needs one. His political instincts need guidance. Most anyone here would be better than whomever is in that role, if it exists at all.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2022 05:15 PM (Q4IgG)

19 Sad that the cheat machine will override all that work.

====
I would not be too sure about that.

Posted by: runner at November 29, 2022 05:15 PM (CJyOE)

20 It would be nice to see DeSantis there supporting Walker, if he hasn't already been there.

Posted by: Moki at November 29, 2022 05:16 PM (JrN/x)

21 I hope he's putting out more "Truths" encouraging people to vote to overcome possible Democrat fraud. Can anyone on Truth Social confirm?

He hasn't this hour, but TS really isn't for reaching ordinary voters.

Posted by: t-bird at November 29, 2022 05:16 PM (dNNCD)

22 And don't forget the Legions that lost Augustus's favourite hunting dogs...

"Quinctilius Varus, where are my beagles?!!"

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 05:17 PM (Vwz3I)

23 My lovely WA State instituted 100% mail in ballots in 2011. I don't think we've had a fair election since then. Even when Republicans win, we eventually lose.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 29, 2022 05:17 PM (BJKQV)

24
off to content
Posted by: BifBewalski at November 29, 2022 05:15 PM (3CCua)

I have no idea what unassing is, but I still laughed. Poor MegaRoy!

Posted by: Moki at November 29, 2022 05:17 PM (JrN/x)

25 To carry some impact, be nice if some of Walker's teammates supported his run.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2022 05:17 PM (+TCco)

26 Trump knows Walker's a lost cause. The Democrats always win the elections they want to. And the GOPe is compliant.

Posted by: JmT at November 29, 2022 05:17 PM (ZoOLl)

27 Smart by Trump.
Georgia is lost to GOPE
GOPE can take the blame

Posted by: Ex-GOP at November 29, 2022 05:17 PM (qPZhe)

28 Can someone who knows more about Georgia politics vouch that 30% of Republicans in Georgia do not support "Make America Great Again."

This sounds like bullshit

Posted by: JoeF. at November 29, 2022 05:18 PM (mR6Gs)

29 I get the feeling, and this is just me in my tin foil hat talking here, that Kemp cut a deal that he keeps his job and Democrats keep mailing ballots.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 29, 2022 05:14 PM (g4JKw)

This, then is the perfect time to switch sides before the Dems betray you.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 05:18 PM (eoQWY)

30 An anti-Semite, white supremacist and a Holocausts denier walk into a ...... Trump's home for dinner ? Don't think there's joke there....

Posted by: It's me donna at November 29, 2022 05:18 PM (bs+z0)

31 Walker's main problem is that, like Trump, he does not have gopE support and the associated funding and political infrastructure of the gopE. His secondary problem which is almost as big as the first is McTurtle doesn't want to control or even come close senate. This is to help his democrat allies so they don't have to call Kamaltoe down to break ties which if used could cost them votes.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 29, 2022 05:18 PM (u4CEu)

32 What's the "moderate Republican" position on $7 gas?

Nearly complete erasure of the border and nearly complete collapse in rule of law on immigration?

Official public sponsorship of crude Nazi-like racist indoctrination?

Return to non-reciprocal trade policies?

Third World lawless "elections", and political corruption of key national law enforcement and intelligence entities?

Posted by: rhomboid at November 29, 2022 05:18 PM (OTzUX)

33 He and the DeathSanguination should both appear and campaign for Walker together.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 29, 2022 05:18 PM (N9zUj)

34 GA GOP like thier voter fraud.

Or it's probably just a coincidence that the Governor and SOS both blew away their rivals by huge margins and they both set up the voting rules on the state. I mean... probably fine.

Or are we still pretending Republicans are never on the receiving end of fake votes?

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 29, 2022 05:18 PM (53oGX)

35 15 I get the feeling, and this is just me in my tin foil hat talking here, that Kemp cut a deal that he keeps his job and Democrats keep mailing ballots.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
------------------------

That's the pie crust.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 29, 2022 05:18 PM (BJC33)

36 5 He's right, you know. Funny how those in power in GA that did nothing about mail-in voting still have their jobs, no?
Posted by: Catherine

The broadcast legislative meetings after 2020 were the weirdest things I ever saw. They conferenced in with the person in charge of elections regarding 2020 and the last runoffs, and she was very clear that they could change or fix nothing in the few months they had. This was absurd since by that time they already knew the system was crap and needed to be fixed. Typical bureaucrat not willing to change anything even if it did not do what was required.

The weird part was how obsequious all the legislatures were toward her. (don't recall her title.) They all fawned over how hard she was working and how grateful they were that she would give them audience. It was clear that they depended on her to get elected. She was their boss.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 29, 2022 05:18 PM (T6W8V)

37 Sad that the cheat machine will override all that work.

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I would not be too sure about that.
Posted by: runner
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I'll be more than happy to be proved wrong.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 05:19 PM (isQS2)

38 I have no idea what unassing is, but I still laughed. Poor MegaRoy!
Posted by: Moki at November 29, 2022 05:17 PM (JrN/x)

I imagine getting his ass out of the area at high speed.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 05:19 PM (eoQWY)

39 Honestly, Trump needs a political handler. I know he'd never, never, never go for it, but he really needs one. His political instincts need guidance. Most anyone here would be better than whomever is in that role, if it exists at all.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2022 05:15 PM (Q4IgG)

But who can he trust?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 29, 2022 05:19 PM (mR6Gs)

40 Sigh...

Ace, you cannot overcome voter fraud with more voting. Ever. All the other side will do is wait it out to see how many votes they need to overcome the margin and then come up miraculously with enough to do it.

Truly, it is a fool's paradise to keep thinking turnout will tip the scale, when you have 6 million more people vote Republican in 2022 and you still lose.

Oh and again, Georgia was stolen from President Trump and Kemp and Raffensbarger are humongous pieces of shit.

FACTS!

Posted by: Tracy at November 29, 2022 05:19 PM (5zRoN)

41 Preference cascade continues apace.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at November 29, 2022 05:19 PM (24fqN)

42 The Pharisees Media/NeverTrump cabal will still scream about Trump even if he says nothing.

That is how mentally wrecked they are.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2022 05:15 PM (+TCco)

Some are mentally wrecked. Trump damaged more brain s than any other president in history. But a lot of this act is very calculated. They also use phrases like "just like Trump" Trumpy, Trumpist, Trumpism.
They are trying to make populism a non-starter for politicians to keep the uniparty and its entourage of hangers on fat and happy.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 29, 2022 05:19 PM (FCbAQ)

43 Don't mention beagles around Fauci.

Varus might have been better served with beagles than having Arminius.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2022 05:19 PM (+TCco)

44 KTE is trying to likityger "screen time" (phone)
I'm gonna try and do the same. Just online now coz waiting in dr ofc

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 29, 2022 05:20 PM (nIBBl)

45 And don't forget the Legions that lost Augustus's favourite hunting dogs...

"Quinctilius Varus, where are my beagles?!!"

* shifty eyes *
* shrugs *

Posted by: A. Fauci at November 29, 2022 05:20 PM (nfrXX)

46
I have no idea what unassing is, but I still laughed. Poor MegaRoy!
Posted by: Moki

he broke four paw drive traction for about five feet attempting to accelerate. power drifted around the corner. poor thing. he's a 12 year old Maine Coon and showing his age like the big dog breeds do.

Posted by: BifBewalski at November 29, 2022 05:20 PM (3CCua)

47 Is Dave in Fl still claiming Walker is going to win because "incumbents don't win runoffs?" The polling I've seen has been pretty dire.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 29, 2022 05:13 PM (NVVQz)

Incumbent Saxby Chambliss won a Georgia Senate runoff in 2008 with 57% of the vote.

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 29, 2022 05:20 PM (xPl2J)

48 Some are mentally wrecked. Trump damaged more brain s than any other president in history. But a lot of this act is very calculated. They also use phrases like "just like Trump" Trumpy, Trumpist, Trumpism.
They are trying to make populism a non-starter for politicians to keep the uniparty and its entourage of hangers on fat and happy.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 29, 2022 05:19 PM (FCbAQ)

They've been doing this since at least the 30s, and maybe since the 1830s and Andy Jackson.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 05:20 PM (eoQWY)

49 I have no idea what unassing is, but I still laughed. Poor MegaRoy!
Posted by: Moki at November 29, 2022 05:17 PM (JrN/x)

I imagine getting his ass out of the area at high speed.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 29, 2022 05:19 PM

In the military when you unass an AO, it means RUN AWAY!!!!

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 29, 2022 05:20 PM (uNylN)

50 Ooooh. One of the 1/6 guys charged with sEditIoUS cONsPiRaCY found not guilty on that count.

https://bit.ly/3UhitaC

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 05:20 PM (j2Xg6)

51 Una$$ing - Bug-out Boogie or you just didi mau on out.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2022 05:21 PM (+TCco)

52 Obviously Walker is a black white supremacist is the message they're conveying. Makes Trump radioactive especially after the Fuentes attack.

They first tried this tactic on sex. You can be anything you identify with. That works so well it's now morphed into THEY get to label you with anything they fancy. Cost free, no defamation.

Their Conversation about race: you are a honkey racist.

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2022 05:21 PM (n8jTi)

53 Probably best but the Fraud will beat ot Walker by design, just as the rush to certify Arizona for the Democrats/Marxists

Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2022 05:21 PM (xhxe8)

54 Trump needs to get back on Twitter. Truth looks bush league.

Posted by: brak at November 29, 2022 05:21 PM (lO5WT)

55 The inverse Cramer rule strikes again.

https://bit.ly/3ERaF9N

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 05:23 PM (j2Xg6)

56 20 It would be nice to see DeSantis there supporting Walker, if he hasn't already been there.
Posted by: Moki
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GOPe walking around money keeps locals on the farm.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 29, 2022 05:23 PM (BJC33)

57 One thing seems to be trending, Trump is getting marginalized.

When he's done, I imagine his base will return to their lives and the short-lived conservative revival will return to its grave to be buried in the annals of history.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 29, 2022 05:23 PM (g4JKw)

58
The Low Information Voter/ Free Shit Army wins borderline purple states with voter fraud issues. If Georgia is anything like Pennsylvania - where 80% of voters in Philadelphia voted for a brain dead nothing with a lump on his neck the size of a potato - then I'm sure that Hershel should start preparing his gracious concession speech.

Or tackle Warnock in the backfield... somehow.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 29, 2022 05:23 PM (enJYY)

59 What's the "moderate Republican" position on $7 gas?

---------

"As soon as you give us 4/3rds of 7/4ths of 9/5ths of the federal government, we promise to give corporations a big tax cut! Right after we repeal Obamacare ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 29, 2022 05:23 PM (N9zUj)

60 Fear not. Walker absolutely locked in the win when he flashed the badge.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at November 29, 2022 05:24 PM (24fqN)

61 Honestly, Trump needs a political handler. I know he'd never, never, never go for it, but he really needs one. His political instincts need guidance. Most anyone here would be better than whomever is in that role, if it exists at all.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2022 05:15 PM (Q4IgG)

But who can he trust?
Posted by: JoeF.
____________

Literally anyone on this blog minus the trolls.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2022 05:24 PM (Q4IgG)

62 I ain't got a dawg in this fight. These crazy people put Tank up for election. That tells me all I need to know.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 29, 2022 05:24 PM (geVLo)

63 Dream headline - Walker Sacks Warnock.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2022 05:24 PM (+TCco)

64 Or it's probably just a coincidence that the Governor [and SOS both blew away their rivals by huge margins and they both set up the voting rules on the state. I mean... probably fine.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Those cokksukkers refused to examine all the irregularities found by Trump's lawyers and True the Vote, etc. in 2020.

I recall another knob-gobbler from GA, the Lt. Gov, posting his family camping trip on Thanksgiving, when the fate of the freakingn Western world hinged on GA getting its cotdam numbers straight.

There's a place in Hades reserved for these NT GOPe
dick-munchers, and I look forward to pointing and laffing at them from my heavenly abode.

Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 05:25 PM (I1HJV)

65 And don't forget the Legions that lost Augustus's favourite hunting dogs...

"Quinctilius Varus, where are my beagles?!!"

* shifty eyes *
* shrugs *
Posted by: A. Fauci

Buuuuuuuurrrp.
--B. Obama

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2022 05:25 PM (ekL79)

66 One thing seems to be trending, Trump is getting marginalized.

When he's done, I imagine his base will return to their lives and the short-lived conservative revival will return to its grave to be buried in the annals of history.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 29, 2022 05:23 PM (g4JKw)

Maybe he's wondering if it's all even worth it

Posted by: JoeF. at November 29, 2022 05:25 PM (mR6Gs)

67 57 One thing seems to be trending, Trump is getting marginalized.

When he's done, I imagine his base will return to their lives and the short-lived conservative revival will return to its grave to be buried in the annals of history.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 29, 2022 05:23 PM (g4JKw)

Trump is what followed the demise of the Teaparty.

What comes after Trump will be worse.

Posted by: Just Lily at November 29, 2022 05:25 PM (OchCJ)

68 This twitter feed was very informative as to perhaps why the left/satanist push their pedo and trannyness and covidness in our face.

https://tinyurl.com/35ah3h2u

From some moron yesterday. Worth a look.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at November 29, 2022 05:26 PM (u4CEu)

69 Trump is conceding he is poison in this race. He had a mediocre record in the midterms with close race endorsements.

How on earth does he win 2024? It's simply not possible.

Posted by: Desdemona Tryptophan at November 29, 2022 05:26 PM (RG7Wy)

70 "Honestly, Trump needs a political handler."

Steve Bannon doesn't want the gig anymore.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at November 29, 2022 05:26 PM (24fqN)

71 America will have had enough when the government locks us up in our own homes. Wait——-

Posted by: kraken at November 29, 2022 05:26 PM (Vr12I)

72 As much as I don't like Christmas pop songs I have a soft spot for the Chipmunks.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 05:26 PM (VdGjU)

73 @18 Martini Farmer-He needs JRODS F'ING POLITCAL CONSULTING INC. I'd advise him to go on stage drop as many F bombs and MF's as possible. Have him say he's going to curb stomp old Joe at the next debate, maybe physically assault him on stage. Watch the voter registration go through the roof and watch us beat the fraud just like in 2016. Passion is what is needed and absolute viciousness. I don't want presidential or nuanced I want the meanest nastiest SOB on the block. So does the rest of America. Let all the pussies argue over being polite.I want people jacked up AF to vote that have never voted before.

Posted by: JROD (Rick Perry/Scott Walker 2024) at November 29, 2022 05:27 PM (IlL6s)

74 If only Livia were running the GOP in GA!

https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=Xldcuyl4xRY

[1:09 minutes]

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 05:28 PM (Vwz3I)

75 If the way elections are currently done don't change we will never again see a republican President.

Posted by: It's me donna at November 29, 2022 05:28 PM (bs+z0)

76 The Super Mario Movie looks fun.

https://bit.ly/3ARLYZy

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 05:28 PM (j2Xg6)

77 Trump is what followed the demise of the Teaparty.

What comes after Trump will be worse.
Posted by: Just Lily at November 29, 2022 05:25 PM (OchCJ)

The GOPe will never allow it. We know for a fact that they don't mind losing to Democrats, but to a threat from the Right? They were caught flatfooted with the Tea Party and Trump.
It won't happen again.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 29, 2022 05:28 PM (mR6Gs)

78 So many trolls
So little time

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 29, 2022 05:29 PM (BJC33)

79 When you have people actually saying no to the idea of "Make America Great Again" you are screwed as a nation. At least one third of these republicans want representatives that promise to lose with honor to the communists. McLosers. I don't know WTF is wrong with Rs here.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 29, 2022 05:29 PM (cqFb3)

80 The Super Mario Movie looks fun.

We already had one with Bob Hoskins..

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2022 05:29 PM (+TCco)

81 Trump is a very stable genius, he does not need political handlers.

Posted by: runner at November 29, 2022 05:29 PM (CJyOE)

82 As much as I don't like Christmas pop songs I have a soft spot for the Chipmunks.
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Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakholes??

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 05:29 PM (Vwz3I)

83 75 If the way elections are currently done don't change we will never again see a republican President.
Posted by: It's me donna at November 29, 2022 05:28 PM (bs+z0)

They won’t give up that power until they are made to. And nobody is making them do anything.

Posted by: kraken at November 29, 2022 05:29 PM (Vr12I)

84 Honestly, Trump needs a political handler. I know he'd never, never, never go for it, but he really needs one. His political instincts need guidance. Most anyone here would be better than whomever is in that role, if it exists at all.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2022 05:15 PM (Q4IgG)

But who can he trust?
Posted by: JoeF. at November 29, 2022 05:19 PM (mR6Gs)

It seems like no one. His political instincts are unparalleled but he is impervious to letting anyone with sense into his council.

Posted by: JmT at November 29, 2022 05:29 PM (ZoOLl)

85 Dems always win the ones they really want. Kemp really annoys me….. I’d bet he’s knifing Herschel in the back

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2022 05:29 PM (xT8gx)

86 I really want Walker to win, I liked him since his playing in Philadelphia days decades ago. And right now any non politician is better than a polished one

Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2022 05:30 PM (xhxe8)

87 As much as I don't like Christmas pop songs I have a soft spot for the Chipmunks.
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 29, 2022 05:26 PM (VdGjU)

I loved them as a kid, but now that I am 29, I know why my Dad loathed them so much.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at November 29, 2022 05:30 PM (UQUAY)

88 What's the "moderate Republican" position on $7 gas?

They'll be all for it when the Dems demand $8. And then they'll be all for $19 when the Dems demand a $20 "living wage".

Posted by: t-bird at November 29, 2022 05:30 PM (ptElO)

89 18 Honestly, Trump needs a political handler. I know he'd never, never, never go for it, but he really needs one. His political instincts need guidance. Most anyone here would be better than whomever is in that role, if it exists at all.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2022 05:15 PM (Q4IgG)

That may be the case, but there is nobody in the GOPe that can fill that role - nobody on that side has handled it successfully. In fact, the points of one of Ace's posts last week is that if you're a GOP midwit, all you need to do is serve your time and you get your name on the 'approved' list to run GOP campaigns. They are incapable of exhibiting even a modicum of common sense - they simply exist to grift money from the rubes.

It would be better if a Moron managed his media presence, but TBH, he's still a better media person than most media people.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 29, 2022 05:30 PM (9miN6)

90 What comes after Trump will be worse.

I have no clue. I'm not good at predicting politics.

I just think that a nerd talking about taxes and the Constitution won't win in this society.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 29, 2022 05:30 PM (g4JKw)

91 Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakholes??
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022
****"
You rang?

Posted by: Rep. Schiff at November 29, 2022 05:31 PM (n8jTi)

92 We're going to have to wait until Cocaine Mitch OD's for anything to change

Posted by: JoeF. at November 29, 2022 05:31 PM (mR6Gs)

93 > We already had one with Bob Hoskins..

I have no idea what you're talking about. And that movie was the worst thing ever.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 05:31 PM (j2Xg6)

94 When you have people actually saying no to the idea of "Make America Great Again" you are screwed as a nation.

It's why we made up that stat.

Posted by: The NYTimes at November 29, 2022 05:31 PM (ptElO)

95 Who gave the Cocaine Turtle Narcan?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2022 05:31 PM (+TCco)

96 So Ace hates Trump now, huh?

Posted by: Steve at November 29, 2022 05:32 PM (fAmon)

97
They've been doing this since at least the 30s, and maybe since the 1830s and Andy Jackson.
Posted by: Oldcat

Since 3000 B.C.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 29, 2022 05:32 PM (63Dwl)

98 The GOPe will never allow it. We know for a fact that they don't mind losing to Democrats, but to a threat from the Right? They were caught flatfooted with the Tea Party and Trump.
It won't happen again.
Posted by: JoeF.
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What comes after Trump and a 2024 loss is probably not an election. After that, the GOPe will be fleeing in their private jets most likely to non-extradition countries either because the Dems do not need them anymore or to save them from their erstwhile constituents with hot tar, feathers, and rails.

Posted by: whig at November 29, 2022 05:32 PM (bDjBG)

99 57 One thing seems to be trending, Trump is getting marginalized.

When he's done, I imagine his base will return to their lives and the short-lived conservative revival will return to its grave to be buried in the annals of history.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 29, 2022 05:23 PM (g4JKw)

It has happened now, I think, and maybe happened as early as 2018 when voters realized what a fraud Americans politics were. There literally is no reason at this point to support or vote for the GOP at the national level. The only question after 2018 was whether the paradigm shifted or if Trump was a bump in the road. It was "bump in the road," apparently. And whether it is now or after 2024, Trump will be off the stage and nearly half the country will have no representation, which basically is the situation now.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 05:32 PM (kJLpK)

100 The GOPe will never allow it. We know for a fact that they don't mind losing to Democrats, but to a threat from the Right? They were caught flatfooted with the Tea Party and Trump.
It won't happen again.
Posted by: JoeF.

Agreed. Hard to stay flatfooted when your neck is getting...

Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2022 05:32 PM (ekL79)

101 Trump is what followed the demise of the Teaparty.

What comes after Trump will be worse.
Posted by: Just Lily at November 29, 2022 05:25 PM (OchCJ)

Or better... I suppose it depends how you look at it.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 29, 2022 05:32 PM (53oGX)

102 I am waiting for the Democrats to trot out, "my opponent is a practicing heterosexual!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2022 05:33 PM (+TCco)

103
I really want Walker to win, I liked him since his playing in Philadelphia days decades ago. And right now any non politician is better than a polished one
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2022 05:30 PM (xhxe

Yup, one of my rules now that I'm in a State where I can consider voting, is "no career politicians."

If that's what you chose to do with your life, I humbly submit that you crack open your car battery and consume the delicious contents inside.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 05:33 PM (oINRc)

104 Reminder about what happened in PA, 2016, no mail-in ballots:

It was clear Trump had won the state around 2 a.m. Wednesday morning. Naturally, any and every manufactured "vote" that the big city fraud machines could deliver started trickling in. Some in big dumps, some smaller. This went on for days, until, because there was not mail-in balloting that year, they couldn't manufacture anymore votes. The SOP fraud that the big city machines had been practicing for decades came short of the MOV.

That's how Trump beat the fraud in 2016 - PA did not hve mail-in ballots

Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 05:33 PM (I1HJV)

105 Honestly, Trump needs a political handler. I know he'd never, never, never go for it, but he really needs one. His political instincts need guidance. Most anyone here would be better than whomever is in that role, if it exists at all.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2022 05:15 PM (Q4IgG)

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Kari Lake is tanned, tested, and -- sadly -- most likely available.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 29, 2022 05:33 PM (lLfni)

106 I don’t care if we never see another GOP President
GOP are back stabbing scum. I’d rather see GOP die out. Country desperately needs a party committed to freedom not donors cash.

Posted by: Ex-GOP at November 29, 2022 05:33 PM (qPZhe)

107 I ain't got a dawg in this fight. These crazy people put Tank up for election. That tells me all I need to know.
Posted by: Dr. Bone
___

So what utopia do you live in, Dr. Bonehead, I mean Bone?

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 05:34 PM (isQS2)

108 >>It seems like no one. His political instincts are unparalleled but he is impervious to letting anyone with sense into his council

Other than when he had Kellyanne Conway glued to his hip for 3 years.

Remind me, which outsider, first time candidate took down 16 Republican challengers in 2016 and then beat the inevitable Hillary and then got more votes in history than any sitting president?

Trump is smart to stay out of GA. He can still reach his supporters without giving Democrats who are currently trying to take him down in court a rallying point.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2022 05:34 PM (ZLI7S)

109 > I am waiting for the Democrats to trot out, "my opponent is a practicing heterosexual!"

I've heard many leftists say that. Well, they typically say something like, "White, cis-male." But it means exactly the same thing.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 05:34 PM (j2Xg6)

110 Well I have about 1,600 words written for today. Best get back to slinging some more at the screen to pad my NaNoWriMo victory.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2022 05:36 PM (+TCco)

111 Trump was a true leader, who governed according to Constitutional principles because he believed in this nation and the principles upon which it was founded. IOW a true Patriot. He wanted every American to succeed; like Elon Musk, Trump loves humanity.

But we can't have nice things. And I'm starting to wonder if this country even deserves a Nice Thing like Trump as POTUS again.

Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2022 05:36 PM (I1HJV)

112 Trump has no path to the White House. It's an uphill battle all the way for the dreaded outsider-populist. The blowhard should just bow out. He's just doing it for brand promotion. He'll let Hillary win.
--2016

Ace: Truthed

I've been wondering what a Truth Social tweet/text should be called. Truthed. Heh. That's awful.

Posted by: mindful webworker, of the deplorable 'crawl on my hands and knees over broken glass' club at November 29, 2022 05:36 PM (c74tN)

113 Tons of money coming into Georgia for Warnock. Ads I see for him are probably 3-1 Warnock - Walker.

I heard a commercial yesterday from the "GOP Accountability PAC" with a woman claiming to be a Republican, but she said she thought he was a good football player, but she would not vote for Walker because "she just could not trust him".

A lot of that money is not visible though because it is going into behind the scenes work to gather ballots.

Posted by: fd at November 29, 2022 05:37 PM (sn5EN)

114 "I've been wondering what a Truth Social tweet/text should be called."

Trute. Troot. Fakt. Werd.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at November 29, 2022 05:37 PM (24fqN)

115 >>> GOPe will be fleeing in their private jets most likely to non-extradition countries either because the Dems do not need them anymore or to save them from their erstwhile constituents with hot tar, feathers, and rails.
Posted by: whig
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It seems that the national revival is being overtaken by the sugar spike of corruption.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 29, 2022 05:38 PM (BJC33)

116 Hmmm..comment eaten.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 29, 2022 05:38 PM (906pl)

117 Trump is conceding he is poison in this race. He had a mediocre record in the midterms with close race endorsements.

How on earth does he win 2024? It's simply not possible.

Posted by: Desdemona Tryptophan at November 29, 2022 05:26 PM

Add in the fact that he keeps making poor decisions like the dinner with kayne west and his racist buddy. He knew that kayne was radioactive and chose to go to dinner with him. That was an unnecessary own goal that is going to come back and haunt him in 2024.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 29, 2022 05:38 PM (uNylN)

118 Trump wouldn't do anything for Walker. If you don't know who you were going to vote for by now then wtf. Let's just get it over with.

Posted by: fd at November 29, 2022 05:38 PM (sn5EN)

119 Between the Deep State and Democrats
It is Daniel Greenfield who has article on how Democrats run the Deep State no matter who the President
https://www.danielgreenfield.org/the bureaucracys democrat majority made

Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2022 05:38 PM (xhxe8)

120 So Ace hates Trump now, huh?

Posted by: Steve at November 29, 2022 05:32 PM (fAmon)

I can't speak for ace.

I think he's hinting in a few posts that he doesn't like Trump's political instincts (meeting with white supremacists and anti-semites), his personality, his narcissism, or his ~~mean tweets~~ truths.

Make of that what you will.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 29, 2022 05:38 PM (g4JKw)

121 When ballot harvesting and overall fraud get sophisticated enough, the liberal corporate world will not need the GOPe and scrape them off their shoes like the slimy crap they are.

Posted by: Rock Doc at November 29, 2022 05:38 PM (vjNa+)

122 "Mr. Trump also appeared to be a factor in the state's general election in November. Roughly one in three Georgia Republicans who voted said they were not supporters of Mr. Trump's 'Make America Great Again' movement. Mr. Kemp won 90 percent of those voters while winning re-election by 7.5 points, according to the AP VoteCast survey of 2022 voters."

If that 1 in 3 statement is true, then Walker has already lost. If it is indeed about Trump (not MAGA), and Walker still loses, then it really isn't about Trump after all. It's about Georgia swinging Blue and embracing more suck.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at November 29, 2022 05:39 PM (aXxgO)

123 I think legalized weed is making these kids nuts. It's so much stronger than it used to be, sit in your mothers basement playing vid games you'll need pills.

Posted by: dartist at November 29, 2022 05:39 PM (9X/y4)

124 @98 whig-I'd prefer a Trump/DeSantis ticket or maybe just DeSantis and maybe Kari Lake run. That way in 24' when they lose by having it stolen AGAIN it might actually dawn on everyone the situation we are in and focus on fixing that rather than this sideshow of presidential politics. Maybe then all our boats will be sailing the same direction.

Posted by: JROD (Rick Perry/Scott Walker 2024) at November 29, 2022 05:39 PM (IlL6s)

125 >>> "I've been wondering what a Truth Social tweet/text should be called."

Trute. Troot. Fakt. Werd.
Posted by: Dig gp Must at November 29, 2022 05:37 PM (24fqN)

One time in a casual tweet musk wrote that Trump should have called his platform Trumpet or trump.it

... and he's right.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 29, 2022 05:39 PM (cqFb3)

126 Mister Trump. That is telling.

Posted by: kraken at November 29, 2022 05:39 PM (Vr12I)

127 117He knew that kayne was radioactive and chose to go to dinner with him. That was an unnecessary own goal that is going to come back and haunt him in 2024.

Also, he said Pussy. He’s finished.

Posted by: Ex-GOP at November 29, 2022 05:40 PM (qPZhe)

128 I'm on Truth, and Trump hasn't really done much besides gripe about elections. Can't think of anything to rally people to want to get out and vote and take 5 friends with them.

But the typos are getting worse:
Rove is a DINIER of DINIERS which makes him a fool. WATCH!

If you're going to accuse people of being fools, fucking watch for that little red underline when you type thuh wurdz

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at November 29, 2022 05:40 PM (zB/T/)

129 69 Trump is conceding he is poison in this race. He had a mediocre record in the midterms with close race endorsements.

How on earth does he win 2024? It's simply not possible.
Posted by: Desdemona Tryptophan at November 29, 2022 05:26 PM (RG7Wy)

--

Yeah, electorally we reached Peak Trump in 2016. By hook or by crook, the deepstate/entrenched bureaucracy will never allow him to get elected ever again.

He also has enough personal flaws that it's time for him to get off the stage and stop being a distraction.

DeSantis has all of Trump's fire in the belly, F-U attitude toward the corporate media and the left in general, and track record of actually doing shit to move things away from the insanity of the woke left -- and none of his childish, infantile, stream-of-consciousness insults and prattling on.

I want the next leader of the GOP to be a leader and someone with a vision for what's next, not a man pushing 80 with a vendetta because he got scrood four years previous.

Posted by: ballistic at November 29, 2022 05:40 PM (oXNqT)

130 Democrats used to say the same thing about mail-in voting and fraud.

That's before they perfected ballot harvesting.

My understanding from a number of perspectives is that the Dems believed so heavily that 2004 was the Republicans "stealing" the election--including flipping votes in electronic voter machines that they martialed-up and started cheating more in earnest as an "honest" reaction.

But now, that's The Big Lie when they win and "obvious" when they lose. I'm quite sure they intend to never lose again, so that they can always be convinced of the proper outcome of elections.

Willful children on wheels.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 05:40 PM (krQz2)

131
When ballot harvesting and overall fraud get sophisticated enough, the liberal corporate world will not need the GOPe and scrape them off their shoes like the slimy crap they are.
Posted by: Rock Doc at November 29, 2022 05:38 PM (vjNa+)

No.

The GOP are absolutely critical to the Great American Shell Game, perhaps the key factor in it. Certainly the Democrats' first and strongest their actual enemy (the American people).

If they have to turn the fraud on its end to make the GOP appear viable, they'll do it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 05:41 PM (oINRc)

132 I don't care one way or the other about what Trump says anyway. I can make up my own mind. As futile as it may be.

Posted by: fd at November 29, 2022 05:41 PM (sn5EN)

133 121 When ballot harvesting and overall fraud get sophisticated enough, the liberal corporate world will not need the GOPe and scrape them off their shoes like the slimy crap they are.
Posted by: Rock Doc at November 29, 2022 05:38 PM (vjNa+)

The Left will keep the GOP around to maintain the illusion of democracy to the rest of the world, which largely is in on the joke anyhow.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 05:41 PM (kJLpK)

134 "I've been wondering what a Truth Social tweet/text should be called."

Trute. Troot. Fakt. Werd.
Posted by: Dig gp Must at November 29, 2022 05:37 PM (24fqN)
.........

Terd.

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 05:42 PM (v0R5T)

135 Mitch McConnell vowed to stay away from the GA race because it means supporting a Republican

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 29, 2022 05:42 PM (kqFUq)

136 If that 1 in 3 statement is true, then Walker has already lost. If it is indeed about Trump (not MAGA), and Walker still loses, then it really isn't about Trump after all. It's about Georgia swinging Blue and embracing more suck.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at November 29, 2022 05:39 PM (aXxgO)

They obviously like them some Brian Kemp. As has been said many times, sometimes it's the candidate.

And if Trump is a lightning rod for rejecting the R candidate, then it seems to me running without him is a no brainer.

That being said, Walker is a terrible candidate.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 29, 2022 05:42 PM (YV6PJ)

137 The GOP will never go away. The Globetrotters NEED the Washington Generals.

Posted by: kraken at November 29, 2022 05:42 PM (Vr12I)

138 Don't vote. It's our only hope.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 29, 2022 05:42 PM (CgtKh)

139 > I think legalized weed is making these kids nuts.

Yes. And there's scientific evidence it's shrinking these kids' nuts.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 05:42 PM (j2Xg6)

140 Nobody takes DINIER CLUB any more. Not even restaurants.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at November 29, 2022 05:42 PM (Vwz3I)

141 GOP sludges are grabbing onto the "Dinner with Ye" like they did the pussy tape. Pathetic, really.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 29, 2022 05:42 PM (H8QX8)

142 I don't believe the Independents went for the dems in AZ....Don't care what they say

Posted by: It's me donna at November 29, 2022 05:42 PM (bs+z0)

143 Thanks for the explanations, y'all. I have a new word to add to my vocabulary!

MegaRoy sounds like a good boy, Bif. Please give him some chin scritches from me!

Posted by: Moki at November 29, 2022 05:43 PM (JrN/x)

144 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 29, 2022 05:43 PM (T4tVD)

145 "That being said, Walker is a terrible candidate.
Posted by: BurtTC"

Well, he's OUR terrible candidate. Unlike their terrible candidate.

Posted by: fd at November 29, 2022 05:43 PM (sn5EN)

146 hiya JT. You want into this Dogpile????

Posted by: kraken at November 29, 2022 05:44 PM (Vr12I)

147 The narrative that the GOPe has out there is that Trump is toxic in Georgia, yet they never mention that the origin of the Trump-Kemp split was when Kemp attempted to pander to suburban Karens by handpicking Loeffler to fill Johnny Isaacson's Senate seat over Trump-backed Doug Collins.

The attempt predictably failed and Loeffler lost her own run-off.

So both Trump-backed and Kemp-backed GOP candidates have lost in GA lately and Kemp was re-elected largely because he had the advantage of running against an obese woman who called for an economic boycott of the state that cost it hundreds of millions of dollars.

Perphaps we just have to acknowledge that at the same time IA, OH, and FL have become solidly-red, GA is the new VA for Dems.

Posted by: Brock at November 29, 2022 05:44 PM (OpX6M)

148 > I think legalized weed is making these kids nuts.

Yes. And there's scientific evidence it's shrinking these kids' nuts.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 05:42 PM (j2Xg6)
.........

but enlarging their breasts.

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 05:45 PM (v0R5T)

149 >>>So what utopia do you live in, Dr. Bonehead, I mean Bone?

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA

>Sweetpea, Georgia, as one of the original 13 colonies, is on its own. Stand up and make your voice known. What is USSA?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 29, 2022 05:45 PM (geVLo)

150 Ace is yoyo on Trump. If he's our guy in 24 he'll be onboard we'll just have to ride the ups and downs.

Posted by: JmT at November 29, 2022 05:46 PM (ZoOLl)

151 DeSantis has all of Trump's fire in the belly, F-U attitude toward the corporate media and the left in general, and track record of actually doing shit to move things away from the insanity of the woke left -- and none of his childish, infantile, stream-of-consciousness insults and prattling on.
Posted by: ballistic at November 29, 2022 05:40 PM (oXNqT)
~~~~~

You know what else DeSantis has? The support of Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2022 05:46 PM (3ImbR)

152 >>I don't believe the Independents went for the dems in AZ....Don't care what they say

They've been holding hearings in Maricopa County for a few days and citizen after citizen has been coming forward to talk about the disaster the election was with broken voting machines, lack of working printers, ballot rejections and on and on. It's clear the election was once again rigged and you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to see what hundreds of people, some former election workers, are testifying too.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2022 05:46 PM (ZLI7S)

153 Here is the dilemma-- GOP is effectively dead as a political brand as is their wars everywhere for democracy, offshoring, and playing their base on domestic policy such as immigration, energy, welfare spending, open borders, etc. in order to give the Dems what they want.

Mitch McConnell is the least liked party leader in the country--ponder that. McCarthy is well on his way to that level of reverse stardom. So why would voters care if Walker loses in GA, it is not as if McConnell would do anything different than he did with 50 votes. He and his large cohort of grifting GOP assholes made it clear with their twelve so brave GOP supporters of the Dems oppressive marriage act that they don't give a shit about some of their loyalist supporters.

The only advantage of the GOP taking the House is ending the political punishment of the Jan 6 cmte which McConnell will probably allow to go to the Senate and blocking some of the more extreme stupidity if McCarthy can hold his caucus together via a Hastert rule or Tom Delay tactics.

Posted by: whig at November 29, 2022 05:46 PM (bDjBG)

154 little nuggets and moobs. What a country!

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 05:46 PM (v0R5T)

155 Trump could have dinner with a returned to Earth Jesus and the Democrats Propaganda Ministry would find issues he is the AntiChrist

Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2022 05:46 PM (xhxe8)

156 I trust Ace to pay more attention than me.

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 05:47 PM (v0R5T)

157 I think georgia government republicans are probably the most CoC-lovin' Rs in the entire nation. That's probably why they hated and fought against Trump. And the CoC-lovers have a lot of support in the republican electorate. I would like for Florida Rs to infect their northern neighbor with the having-a-spine virus but I don't see it happening.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 29, 2022 05:47 PM (cqFb3)

158 Until GOP spends its money on a Marc Elias type, instead of a Karl Rove-ish grifter, there will never be a red wave or an R President.

Posted by: EveR at November 29, 2022 05:48 PM (MUpk6)

159 Jack Straw I totally agree, we are being run by the Deep State a d Democrats

Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2022 05:48 PM (xhxe8)

160 I expect there will be a lot of fraud, but I am just so tired of people who call themselves "Rev" and as far as I can tell have no real deep faith sentiment behind that and go into politics as a way to be served rather than to serve and make as much money as possible. I get the same vibe from Warnock I get from Al Sharpton, only maybe a little less. Being a pastor or Rev gave them an entre into politics with the black community. Jesus-except as Social Justice Progressive warrior means nothing to them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2022 05:48 PM (vH/6k)

161 Meanwhile the Reverend Al Sharpton, an actual anti-semite with a body count, was a welcome guest in the Obama White House for 8 years.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2022 05:48 PM (ZLI7S)

162 147 The narrative that the GOPe has out there is that Trump is toxic in Georgia, yet they never mention that the origin of the Trump-Kemp split was when Kemp attempted to pander to suburban Karens by handpicking Loeffler to fill Johnny Isaacson's Senate seat over Trump-backed Doug Collins.

The attempt predictably failed and Loeffler lost her own run-off.

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Loeffler was horrible and abhorrent, and people now forget she was caught red-handed (right along with any number of senators and congressmen of both parties) trading on inside information regarding fucking Covid. She was and is the perfect embodiment of the GOP.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 05:48 PM (kJLpK)

163

155 Trump could have dinner with a returned to Earth Jesus and the Democrats Propaganda Ministry would find issues he is the AntiChrist
Posted by: Skip

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 29, 2022 05:48 PM (BJC33)

164 Even for aos this is ridiculously pessimistic and dark. You guys could be pessimistic about a date with Elizabeth Hurley.

Posted by: poltnikes at November 29, 2022 05:48 PM (JZ+w7)

165 If everbody's leaving I'll just sit here and comment to myself.
(it's what I mostly do anyway)

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 05:48 PM (v0R5T)

166 Yes. And there's scientific evidence it's shrinking these kids' nuts.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 05:42 PM (j2Xg6)
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Guided by the Guidestones.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 05:49 PM (krQz2)

167 So where is Sweetpea, GA?

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 05:49 PM (isQS2)

168 84 "Honestly, Trump needs a political handler. I know he'd never, never, never go for it, but he really needs one. His political instincts need guidance. Most anyone here would be better than whomever is in that role, if it exists at all."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2022 05:15 PM (Q4IgG)

He would need someone experienced. Wonder of Steve Schmidt is available?

Posted by: jwest at November 29, 2022 05:49 PM (/BlEx)

169 "You guys could be pessimistic about a date with Elizabeth Hurley."

Probably get scabies.

Posted by: fd at November 29, 2022 05:49 PM (sn5EN)

170 @16 Thank you, Bif. I did need that.

Posted by: Catherine at November 29, 2022 05:49 PM (ZSsrh)

171 I think georgia government republicans are probably the most CoC-lovin' Rs in the entire nation. That's probably why they hated and fought against Trump. And the CoC-lovers have a lot of support in the republican electorate. I would like for Florida Rs to infect their northern neighbor with the having-a-spine virus but I don't see it happening.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 29, 2022 05:47 PM (cqFb3)

I'm going to laugh my ass off when a Dem wins the GA governorship in 2026 because Kemp and Raffensperger were happy to build their own organizations but failed to build a state party that could win elections without them.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 29, 2022 05:50 PM (wmDcS)

172 I would want Trump to run and win because he has gotten fucked over bigly and I want revenge for him.

However, I also want Trump to be wiser and smarter in the way he governs the second time around. Pointlessly attacking DeSantis and Youngkin(???) shows me he has not learned what is necessary.

But while I think DeSantis is great, I don't know if he has the courage to burn down the federal bureaucracy and restore sovereignty to the states. He's had it fairly easy with a GOP legislature that has done a great job of backing him up.

I think Trump has that fire and courage, it just needs to be coupled with wisdom and good judgment, which he continues to lack.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Supporting Endangered Boobies And Gainzzz at November 29, 2022 05:50 PM (VTu1l)

173 The narrative that the GOPe has out there is that Trump is toxic in Georgia
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Gee. Anti-Trumpers have a narrative against Trump who ate the Apple of Uncivility in the Garden?

Forcing us all to live a new world of "hate"?

Yeah, I've never heard a variation of that theme before.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 05:51 PM (krQz2)

174 That was an unnecessary own goal that is going to come back and haunt him in 2024.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 29, 2022 05:38 PM (uNylN)

Nah. Trump had no shot at winning in 2024 before the dinner and he has no shot at winning after the dinner. The dinner was simply a snapshot of something we already knew. Namely that he's extremely undisciplined and he loves to be flattered. Beyond that, the dinner just gave people who hate him something to chew on and it gave people who love him something to defend.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 29, 2022 05:51 PM (NVVQz)

175 Even for aos this is ridiculously pessimistic and dark. You guys could be pessimistic about a date with Elizabeth Hurley.

Posted by: poltnikes at November 29, 2022 05:48 PM (JZ+w7)

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The AoSHQ comment section is the Hugh Grant of right-wing blogs?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 29, 2022 05:51 PM (LfS9Q)

176 ------

Loeffler was horrible and abhorrent, and people now forget she was caught red-handed (right along with any number of senators and congressmen of both parties) trading on inside information regarding fucking Covid. She was and is the perfect embodiment of the GOP.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat
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They also forget that her daughter's boyfriend who against the GOPe was blown up in his car.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 29, 2022 05:51 PM (BJC33)

177
They've been holding hearings in Maricopa County for a few days and citizen after citizen has been coming forward to talk about the disaster the election was with broken voting machines, lack of working printers, ballot rejections and on and on. It's clear the election was once again rigged and you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to see what hundreds of people, some former election workers, are testifying too.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2022 05:46 PM

There's a John McCain contingent in Arizona that will never let go. What the hell are they holding onto? I have not one single clue. Nasty fvcks though they be.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 29, 2022 05:51 PM (enJYY)

178 Posted by: whig at November 29, 2022 05:46 PM (bDjBG)

Hear, hear. The only remaining reason to vote for Republicans at the national level was the Second Amendment, and that same crew stuck their dicks in THAT.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 05:51 PM (kJLpK)

179 You guys could be pessimistic about a date with Elizabeth Hurley.
Posted by: poltnikes at November 29, 2022 05:48 PM

You are too young to be so cynical.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 29, 2022 05:51 PM (a3Q+t)

180 Perphaps we just have to acknowledge that at the same time IA, OH, and FL have become solidly-red, GA is the new VA for Dems.
Posted by: Brock

In VA and GA, the problem in the GOP stems from a 10 to 20 percent GOPe suburban corporate types that basically view people outside of NoVA and Atlanta metro as hicks unworthy to make policy.

Abrams offended their sensibilities because she was a buffon. McAwful did the same to the suburban moms by supporting some of the more ludicrous stupid educational decisions such as allowing an acknowledged rapist to avoid punishment. They are perfectly happy with a corrupt Warnock or Warner as a conduit for federal funds from the Biden administration as they have been with a series of corrupt and inept Atlanta mayors.

Posted by: whig at November 29, 2022 05:51 PM (bDjBG)

181 You know what else DeSantis has? The support of Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2022 05:46 PM (3ImbR)

Like it or not, you're gonna need the whole party behind the candidate if you want the GOP to win, so that's not necessarily a bad thing if your goal is a GOP win

I don't personally care about a GOP win, but I'm just one insignificant nothing.

I think the people that matter think DeSantis is Trump-adjacent enough for Trump-loving retardates that eat fried chicken and drink Diet Coke to vote for (me), but really Ivy League enough to get the things done for the corporate masters.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 29, 2022 05:51 PM (g4JKw)

182 Posted by: poltnikes at November 29, 2022 05:48 PM (JZ+w7)

Yes; I'm beyond pessimistic about a date with Elizabeth Hurley. I don't think I'm her type.

Actually, I will pray about Georgia. I like to pray and it's all I can do and it's important..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2022 05:51 PM (vH/6k)

183 I expect there will be a lot of fraud, but I am just so tired of people who call themselves "Rev" and as far as I can tell have no real deep faith sentiment behind that and go into politics as a way to be served rather than to serve and make as much money as possible. I get the same vibe from Warnock I get from Al Sharpton, only maybe a little less. Being a pastor or Rev gave them an entre into politics with the black community. Jesus-except as Social Justice Progressive warrior means nothing to them.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Warnock, when he is judged by the King of King and the Lord of Lords, is going to find out what it means to be found wanting.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 05:51 PM (isQS2)

184 The narrative that the GOPe has out there is that Trump is toxic in Georgia, yet they never mention that the origin of the Trump-Kemp split was when Kemp attempted to pander to suburban Karens by handpicking Loeffler to fill Johnny Isaacson's Senate seat over Trump-backed Doug Collins.

The attempt predictably failed and Loeffler lost her own run-off.

I've been harping on this for a while. Kemp and Doucey fucked us over in 2020 by appointing Loeffler and McSally. Both were establishment picks, looked good on paper, and were horrible candidates. But, the GOP establishment had to thumb its nose at Trump.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 29, 2022 05:51 PM (wmDcS)

185 Democrats said Georgia is a state with voter suppression,, despite mail in balloting and ridiculous early voting. In the same breathe they'll tell people disenfranchised in Az to deal with it, and they'll laugh about how they got away with stealing that election.

If Kemp has any balls he'll see what Democrats do when they have power, and stop all early voting and mail in balloting. Fuck the dems, they laugh when Republicans have their votes suppressed, so it's time we start doing the same to them (thre difference being we're actually allowing them every right they're afforded, while their suppression is literally not counting votes and sabotaging machines)

Posted by: Rbastid at November 29, 2022 05:52 PM (CM2Sa)

186 So Ace hates Trump now, huh?

He has for several months now. Along with several posters on this board. Or they have been emasculated.

Posted by: blindbutch at November 29, 2022 05:52 PM (q+hVn)

187 He would need someone experienced. Wonder of Steve Schmidt is available?

*****************

No, no, no, Karl Rove is the hero none of us want, but that we all need.

**runs for cover**

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Supporting Endangered Boobies And Gainzzz at November 29, 2022 05:52 PM (VTu1l)

188 A date with Elizabeth Hurley might kill me.

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 05:52 PM (v0R5T)

189 147 The narrative that the GOPe has out there is that Trump is toxic in Georgia, yet they never mention that the origin of the Trump-Kemp split was when Kemp attempted to pander to suburban Karens by handpicking Loeffler to fill Johnny Isaacson's Senate seat over Trump-backed Doug Collins.

The attempt predictably failed and Loeffler lost her own run-off.

So both Trump-backed and Kemp-backed GOP candidates have lost in GA lately and Kemp was re-elected largely because he had the advantage of running against an obese woman who called for an economic boycott of the state that cost it hundreds of millions of dollars.

Perphaps we just have to acknowledge that at the same time IA, OH, and FL have become solidly-red, GA is the new VA for Dems.
Posted by: Brock at November 29, 2022 05:44 PM (OpX6M)

I agree with everything you just said. The only thing I would add, however, is that Kemp was the first governor to try to open up his state, and Trump came down hard on him for that. This was in the midst of C-19 hysteria, of course. That may have been the genesis of Kemp's listening to Mitch rather than Trump on the Loeffler pick.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 29, 2022 05:52 PM (9miN6)

190 Stop smoking sherm.

Posted by: Not voting our way out at November 29, 2022 05:53 PM (bzIRf)

191 >>>So where is Sweetpea, GA?

Posted by: SMH

>It's in that tank I built for you when you decided to go tooling around in the sandbox.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 29, 2022 05:53 PM (geVLo)

192 They've been holding hearings in Maricopa County for a few days and citizen after citizen has been coming forward to talk about the disaster the election was with broken voting machines, lack of working printers, ballot rejections and on and on. It's clear the election was once again rigged and you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to see what hundreds of people, some former election workers, are testifying too.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2022 05:46 PM (ZLI7S)

So what's the bottom line here? I'm not really paying attention anymore, but is there ANY chance to overturn this thing? Any precedent? Can the whole thing be called a failure, then have a do-over?

I'm just not inclined to expend any mental energy on another futile gesture.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 29, 2022 05:53 PM (YV6PJ)

193 "A date with Elizabeth Hurley might kill me.
Posted by: wth "

She'd probably order the most expensive thing on the menu.

Posted by: fd at November 29, 2022 05:53 PM (sn5EN)

194 It's in that tank I built for you when you decided to go tooling around in the sandbox.
Posted by: Dr. Bone
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Bless your heart.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 05:53 PM (isQS2)

195 A couple things on the Georgia race. Over 700,000 early votes have already been cast. Regardless of whom they voted for, it makes it easier to cheat with that amount of early data.

The second thing is that third party conservatives monitoring the race are all saying the same thing "What the HELL is the RNC doing with all the money they claim to have earmarked for the race?" They can't find any valid documentation that shows the RNC doing ANYTHING to help the Walker camp. The only solid commercial that ran was via the Walker campaign...not the RNC. And Warnock is running about 4 or 5 times the ads the Walker camp is.

Posted by: Orson at November 29, 2022 05:54 PM (KkQBB)

196 FenelonSpoke @ 160-
Satan knows the Bible and can preah a pretty rousing sermon but he's still Lucifer and not GOD.

Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2022 05:54 PM (0OP+5)

197
So what's the bottom line here? I'm not really paying attention anymore, but is there ANY chance to overturn this thing? Any precedent? Can the whole thing be called a failure, then have a do-over?

Not likely

Posted by: It's me donna at November 29, 2022 05:54 PM (bs+z0)

198 'm going to laugh my ass off when a Dem wins the GA governorship in 2026 because Kemp and Raffensperger were happy to build their own organizations but failed to build a state party that could win elections without them.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 29, 2022 05:50 PM (wmDcS)

Minority Leader Mitch McConnell approves this message, I think.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 05:54 PM (kJLpK)

199 Ace, you cannot overcome voter fraud with more voting. Ever. All the other side will do is wait it out to see how many votes they need to overcome the margin and then come up miraculously with enough to do it.

Truly, it is a fool's paradise to keep thinking turnout will tip the scale, when you have 6 million more people vote Republican in 2022 and you still lose.

...
Posted by: Tracy at November 29, 2022 05:19 PM (5zRoN)

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Ironically, the harder you vote the more legitimate you make the illegitimate system. Because your voting is what lends it credibility and legitimacy. It the flip on the "if you don't vote you can't complain." Well guess what? If you vote you can't complain.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 29, 2022 05:54 PM (cMXNt)

200 My neighborhood had TWO shootings last night. I live in a moderately fancy suburban neighborhood. The world is going nuts.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 05:54 PM (j2Xg6)

201 They also forget that her daughter's boyfriend who against the GOPe was blown up in his car.

Posted by: Braenyard,

That was Kemp's daughter and a former aide to Loeffler. Related in some way to past governor Nathan Deal (another corrupt POS who entered office bankrupt and exited as a multimillionaire with a sinecure). Kemp is now worth over three million dollars from basically nothing.

Ratshitburger's brother is a top executive for Chinese telecom spyware Huawei.

Think you might can get the picture from that.

Posted by: whig at November 29, 2022 05:54 PM (bDjBG)

202 There's a John McCain contingent in Arizona that will never let go. What the hell are they holding onto? I have not one single clue. Nasty fvcks though they be.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 29, 2022 05:51 PM (enJYY)

Grift. I don't think that it's necessarily that the election was rigged, but the mccain wing is safely ensconced in positions throughout the state and they don't want to give those up. They mismanage the elections because they are incompetent, and then fight like hell to prevent any of it from coming to light.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 29, 2022 05:54 PM (wmDcS)

203 Who needs Trump when we have Mitch McConnell, John Cornyn and Mitt Romney fighting for us.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 29, 2022 05:55 PM (lm3XL)

204 "A couple things on the Georgia race. Over 700,000 early votes have already been cast"

Not me. I'm going to wait until the last minute. In case I change my mind.

Posted by: fd at November 29, 2022 05:55 PM (sn5EN)

205 > So where is Sweetpea, GA?

Next to Diabetes Urethra, GA.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 05:55 PM (j2Xg6)

206 So why would voters care if Walker loses in GA, it is not as if McConnell would do anything different than he did with 50 votes. He and his large cohort of grifting GOP assholes made it clear with their twelve so brave GOP supporters of the Dems oppressive marriage act that they don't give a shit about some of their loyalist supporters.

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This is true. As a practical matter, there's no difference between 49 and 50 GOP senators other than less desirable office space. McConnell and his caucus are, at present, working to:

(1) Codify homosexual marriage;

(2) Bail Biden out of a rail strike;

(3) Send another $30 or so billion to Ukraine; and

(4) Fund Biden's spending priorities for a year so they can't be obstructed by the incoming GOP House.

That's on top of having provided overwhelming GOP support to confirm Garland as AG, amongst others, and to pass Biden's "infrastructure" boondoggle and his gun control bill.

The argument that we'll be less effective in checking Biden if we have 49 Senate seats instead of 50 rings hollow when the Senate GOP has been actively abetting him for the past 2 years.

Posted by: Brock at November 29, 2022 05:55 PM (OpX6M)

207 You guys could be pessimistic about a date with Elizabeth Hurley.

And gents like you still insist we all stop and smell the roses, even after the sign up top says "Arbeit Macht Frei".

You'll get excited about the notion of Dave in Fla canvassing the various gulags, and telling you it looks like we're voting ourselves to an extra ration.

Posted by: Jaguar at November 29, 2022 05:55 PM (qcMKA)

208 ---
Gee. Anti-Trumpers have a narrative against Trump who ate the Apple of Uncivility in the Garden?

Forcing us all to live a new world of "hate"?

Yeah, I've never heard a variation of that theme before.
Posted by: Axeman
----------------------------

It's not like he's been saying, get rid of mail in ballots',
for two years.

but oh yeah it was just sour grapes

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 29, 2022 05:55 PM (BJC33)

209 So Ace hates Trump now, huh?

He has for several months now. Along with several posters on this board. Or they have been emasculated.

Posted by: blindbutch at November 29, 2022 05:52 PM

There were a whole bunch of posters on this blog that hated Trump in 2016 and claimed he was a potemkin candidate that was only running so he could bow out right before the election to let hillary win. Some of them are still here.

Full disclaimer....I was a walker guy from day one and stayed with him until he flamed out. I backed Trump after that and gave his campaign some $$$$.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 29, 2022 05:56 PM (uNylN)

210 Yes, we should get rid of Trump because he continues to be the first choice of Republican voters and also can beat Biden in the general election. Always good to dump your strongest candidate. And we have Pompeo, Pence and Haley to step into the race.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 29, 2022 05:56 PM (uz3Px)

211 Full disclaimer....I was a walker guy from day one and stayed with him until he flamed out. I backed Trump after that and gave his campaign some $$$$.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 29, 2022 05:56 PM (uNylN)

Me too...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 29, 2022 05:56 PM (bs+z0)

212 Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Supporting Endangered Boobies And Gainzzz at November 29, 2022 05:50 PM (VTu1l)
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I can't find a statement I disagree with there.

The worst part is that the Dems are saying "Lie down and take how we made Trump poison" and people on our side--who otherwise say "you just going to lie there and take it?!" want to "cut our losses" and abandon the guy, thus giving the left and deep state the victory they cheated to win.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 05:57 PM (krQz2)

213 The narrative that the GOPe has out there is that Trump is toxic in Georgia, yet they never mention that the origin of the Trump-Kemp split was when Kemp attempted to pander to suburban Karens by handpicking Loeffler to fill Johnny Isaacson's Senate seat over Trump-backed Doug Collins.

The attempt predictably failed and Loeffler lost her own run-off.

IIRC there were 400k less votes than Trump got in the Presidential election. There was no change in the Dem turnout.

Posted by: poltnikes at November 29, 2022 05:57 PM (JZ+w7)

214 The second thing is that third party conservatives monitoring the race are all saying the same thing "What the HELL is the RNC doing with all the money they claim to have earmarked for the race?" They can't find any valid documentation that shows the RNC doing ANYTHING to help the Walker camp. The only solid commercial that ran was via the Walker campaign...not the RNC. And Warnock is running about 4 or 5 times the ads the Walker camp is.
Posted by: Orson at November 29, 2022 05:54 PM (KkQBB)

After McConnell was re-elected Leader, he announced that the party would pour money into Walker's race. He forgot that he had made the same claim a few months before and millions supposedly were spent.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 05:57 PM (kJLpK)

215 I'lll vote but I''ll be amazed if Walker pulls it off. You can practically sense the fraud going on with all the early and mail-in voting going on.

Posted by: Ripley at November 29, 2022 05:57 PM (MxEKc)

216 I agree with everything you just said. The only thing I would add, however, is that Kemp was the first governor to try to open up his state, and Trump came down hard on him for that. This was in the midst of C-19 hysteria, of course. That may have been the genesis of Kemp's listening to Mitch rather than Trump on the Loeffler pick.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 29, 2022 05:52 PM (9miN6)

Loeffler was appointed in Dec 2019, before the lockdowns. More likely it's the reverse: Trump went after Kemp in part because of the Loeffler pick.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 29, 2022 05:57 PM (wmDcS)

217 More for the list. Harmeet Dhillon

Apparently bailing out of AZ via RNC directives. GOPe.

The fate of AZ we should be able to find out in maybe 2 ~~weeks~~ ~~months~~ ~~years~~ lifetimes

Posted by: micky at November 29, 2022 05:58 PM (3byMq)

218 Yeah, electorally we reached Peak Trump in 2016. By hook or by crook, the deepstate/entrenched bureaucracy will never allow him to get elected ever again.

Posted by: ballistic at November 29, 2022 05:40 PM (oXNqT)
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I'll vote for Trump if he's the nominee, it's an easy decision. But the opposition against him is insane. The most fervent Trump supporters say he's the only man who can save America. If that is actually true, then - no, he cannot. He was essentially a one-man army between 2016-2020 and look where that got him. Yes, he exposed a lot, thank God. But we need more than exposure. Is he more popular now? If the midterms didn't answer that question for you, look at Georgia right now.

I believe Trump never held a rally for Walker before the election, I was hoping he'd get involved in the runoff. Now he's staying out, and I can't say that's an entirely wrong stance, but it's also a sign of weakness.

If the best you can offer is "I'm going to hurt at least as much as I will help" then what does Trump have going for him at this point? Can't say I'm thrilled about it, but I agree that Peak Trump has passed us by.

Posted by: Desdemona Tryptophan at November 29, 2022 05:58 PM (RG7Wy)

219 "Stop smoking sherm."

They ruined it when they started putting fentanyl in the formaldehyde.

Synthesizing fentanaldehyde and formanyl.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at November 29, 2022 05:58 PM (24fqN)

220 Full disclaimer....I was a walker guy from day one and stayed with him until he flamed out. I backed Trump after that and gave his campaign some $$$$.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 29, 2022 05:56 PM (uNylN)
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So was I. With a stop at Cruz. And I got called a "NeverTrump" non-stop by the lumpers.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 05:58 PM (krQz2)

221 > You guys could be pessimistic about a date with Elizabeth Hurley.

I still can't believe that goofy looking chuckle-head Hugh Grant cheated on Hurley.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 05:58 PM (j2Xg6)

222 Damn I can even spell my nic correctly . I'm blaming autocorrect.

Posted by: polynikes at November 29, 2022 05:58 PM (JZ+w7)

223 >>So what's the bottom line here? I'm not really paying attention anymore, but is there ANY chance to overturn this thing? Any precedent? Can the whole thing be called a failure, then have a do-over?

Seems unlikely to me. I think the best we can hope for is the corruption becomes so obvious that enough Arizonans finally say enough is enough and clean the elections up.

I watched one woman testify, a Republican election official, who claimed the voters roles are an absolute joke. In some cases there were up to 9 people registered at a single address and when the lady went to the house to check for accuracy not a single listed person lived at the address and the woman who did had no idea who the people were. And there numerous examples of things like that and that is just one factor.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2022 05:58 PM (ZLI7S)

224 I still can't believe that goofy looking chuckle-head Hugh Grant cheated on Hurley.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 05:58 PM (j2Xg6)

And I'm convinced 'she' was a tranny.

Posted by: polynikes at November 29, 2022 05:59 PM (JZ+w7)

225 The most fervent Trump supporters say he's the only man who can save America.

Posted by: Desdemona Tryptophan at November 29, 2022 05:58 PM (RG7Wy)
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That's true. Also, why I never paid much attention to the most fervent of Trump supporters. And why in 2016, I took a lot of "NeverTrumper" flak.

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 06:00 PM (krQz2)

226 When ballot harvesting and overall fraud get sophisticated enough, the liberal corporate world will not need the GOPe and scrape them off their shoes like the slimy crap they are.
Posted by: Rock Doc at November 29, 2022 05:38 PM (vjNa+)

I have the feeling I'll be around to see this happen.

and i REALLY want to see the wailing and rending of garments by the GOPe when the shit hits the fan for them...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 29, 2022 06:00 PM (Mkvkw)

227 She'd probably order the most expensive thing on the menu.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2022 05:53 PM (sn5EN)
........

The Double Quarter Pounder?

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 06:00 PM (v0R5T)

228 Loeffler was appointed in Dec 2019, before the lockdowns. More likely it's the reverse: Trump went after Kemp in part because of the Loeffler pick.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 29, 2022 05:57 PM (wmDcS)

I stand corrected - you're right about that. Trump would be even more inclined to go after Kemp after being spurned like that. Strangely enough, Collins was the better pick, by far.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 29, 2022 06:00 PM (9miN6)

229 >>> So what's the bottom line here? I'm not really paying attention anymore, but is there ANY chance to overturn this thing? Any precedent? Can the whole thing be called a failure, then have a do-over?

I'm just not inclined to expend any mental energy on another futile gesture.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 29, 2022 05:53 PM (YV6PJ)

Here's a not so secret secret,

The left loves these hearings and trials that go nowhere and mounds of evidence of wrongdoing, and films of people clearly breaking the law. They love all of it. Because every bit of it just serves to document the level of power they have over us. When they know they will never be held accountable every accusation is just a measure of their position over us.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 29, 2022 06:00 PM (cqFb3)

230 Pleasantly surprised to see that Trump realizes he's not always a positive influence for Republican candidates. I know he supports Walker, as do I, but I'm glad he's staying out of Georgia for this one.

Right now, Trump is by far the single greatest get-out-the-vote catalyst in the U.S. Unfortunately, it's for the Democrats.

Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at November 29, 2022 06:00 PM (3DTwf)

231 157 I think georgia government republicans are probably the most CoC-lovin' Rs in the entire nation. That's probably why they hated and fought against Trump. And the CoC-lovers have a lot of support in the republican electorate. I would like for Florida Rs to infect their northern neighbor with the having-a-spine virus but I don't see it happening.
Posted by: banana Dream
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Georgia follows S. Carolina and S. Carolina has had a GOP machine for decades that bends over backwards to support bidness. GA copied it.

Posted by: whig at November 29, 2022 06:00 PM (bDjBG)

232 Has Trump thrown one nickel on any ballot initiative to help fight voter fraud?

We had a prop here in AZ that made it way tougher to vote absentee. It failed, Trump didn't throw one penny or say one word about it.

Posted by: Blago at November 29, 2022 06:00 PM (PwNLq)

233
The Left will keep the GOP around to maintain the illusion of democracy to the rest of the world, which largely is in on the joke anyhow.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 05:41 PM (kJLpK)

It's to maintain it for *us.*

They need a fake-oppo Party faction to keep us thinking we have a say in our governance, and lining up for our next horsewhipping, and coming to believe that we even like it and want it.

The (R)enfield Party brings the (D)racula Party its victims in return for all the bugs and mice it can eat.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 06:00 PM (oINRc)

234 Alaska has a Democrat Congressman first in 49 years due to the tomfkery of the Uniparty

Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2022 06:01 PM (xhxe8)

235 The way to solve the problem is to find a third-tier, reasonably well known democrat political figure who wants a fat bribe. Use a friendly District Attorney to give him immunity for any information. Have him swear out an affidavit that he personally was involved in vote harvesting/vote manufacturing in the tens of thousands. Have him implicate other high profile democrats with the same accuracy that Adam Schiff used against Trump and other republicans. Let him state that evidence was destroyed.

Have everyone on the right go into full pearl clutching spasms and demand every day that "something" be done. Get everyone on the same page that only in-person, same day, paper ballot voting will restore integrity to the voting system. Hammer on the MSM that the world will come to an end if this is not adopted.

Posted by: jwest at November 29, 2022 06:01 PM (/BlEx)

236 2016 Trump is a barbarian, Cruze is the only man that can do it ---- I changed my mind long before the election.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 29, 2022 06:01 PM (BJC33)

237 I stand corrected - you're right about that. Trump would be even more inclined to go after Kemp after being spurned like that. Strangely enough, Collins was the better pick, by far.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 29, 2022 06:00 PM (9miN6)

Yes. Trump's picks aren't horrible, but the state level GOP is often dysfunctional, or outright hostile, which means they are fighting an uphill battle.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 29, 2022 06:01 PM (wmDcS)

238 HALL MONITOR

Posted by: guy who always yells for the Hall Monitor at November 29, 2022 06:02 PM (v0R5T)

239 @185 blindbutch-It absolutely pisses off a segment of people here and elsewhere that this arrogant cloddish oaf Donald Trump was able to accomplish what none of their candidates real or imagined could. Like the left will never forgive the Russians for letting communism die, people like ace and some of the commenters here will not forgive us for Trump.

Mark my words this is exactly what it is. Jealousy. The wrong person accomplished the right stuff. They hate him for it.

Posted by: JROD (Rick Perry/Scott Walker 2024) at November 29, 2022 06:02 PM (IlL6s)

240 "And gents like you still insist we all stop and smell the roses, even after the sign up top says "Arbeit Macht Frei".

You'll get excited about the notion of Dave in Fla canvassing the various gulags, and telling you it looks like we're voting ourselves to an extra ration."

JJS, is that you?

Posted by: Dig gp Must at November 29, 2022 06:02 PM (24fqN)

241 >>> Like it or not, you're gonna need the whole party behind the candidate if you want the GOP to win, so that's not necessarily a bad thing if your goal is a GOP win.
~~~~~

You can't seriously believe the GOPe was behind candidate Trump.

And to tell you the truth, I'm having a hard time figuring out what you're trying to say in your comment. It seems, to me at least, as if one sentence contradicts the next.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2022 06:02 PM (3ImbR)

242 >>We had a prop here in AZ that made it way tougher to vote absentee. It failed, Trump didn't throw one penny or say one word about it.

You live there and know the election process is corrupt. What did you do?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2022 06:02 PM (ZLI7S)

243 Alaska has a Democrat Congressman first in 49 years due to the tomfkery of the Uniparty
Posted by: Skip

Nothing to do with Alaskans that are sick of Sarah Palin?

Posted by: Blago at November 29, 2022 06:02 PM (PwNLq)

244 Trump is what followed the demise of the Teaparty.

What comes after Trump will be worse.
Posted by: Just Lily at November 29, 2022 05:25 PM (OchCJ)

The GOPe will never allow it. We know for a fact that they don't mind losing to Democrats, but to a threat from the Right? They were caught flatfooted with the Tea Party and Trump.
It won't happen again.
Posted by: JoeF.

Lampposts are non-partisan.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 29, 2022 06:02 PM (PpiqM)

245 Elizabeth Hurley was never all that. Square jawed. Did Clinton do her? Who cares.

Posted by: JmT at November 29, 2022 06:03 PM (ZoOLl)

246 You guys could be pessimistic about a date with Elizabeth Hurley.

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Her nipple guns can blow me away any day

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Supporting Endangered Boobies And Gainzzz at November 29, 2022 06:03 PM (VTu1l)

247 You know.

When are we going to stop making excuses and admit our side keeps losing?

I'm damn sick of hearing "they cheat!"

How about, "our candidate sucked."
Or, "we didn't take the abortion issue seriously enough."
Or, " they played the game better than we did."

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 29, 2022 06:03 PM (OG98j)

248 If she orders the Double QP I'm thinking I may get lucky.

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 06:03 PM (v0R5T)

249 I'll vote for Trump if he's the nominee, it's an easy decision. But the opposition against him is insane.

I see you've never dived deep into the support of Bill Clinton, George W, or Obama.

It's all insane. It's not based on cause and effect. It's the equivalent of a Southern Baptist Revival followed by a vote. Or a pep rally at homecoming.

Politics is Religion. Pure and simple.

Posted by: Jaguar at November 29, 2022 06:03 PM (qcMKA)

250 > I watched one woman testify, a Republican election official, who claimed the voters roles are an absolute joke. In some cases there were up to 9 people registered at a single address and when the lady went to the house to check for accuracy not a single listed person lived at the address and the woman who did had no idea who the people were. And there numerous examples of things like that and that is just one factor.

That's pretty common for apartments in poor neighborhoods. Some places have new tenants every few months. The real problem is those are the same places where Democrat ballot harvesters are paying $10 a ballot. They go in, pay $90 to the current occupant, and go fill out nine ballots for the Democrat candidate.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 06:03 PM (j2Xg6)

251 So just out of curiosity, if Trump is a net negative in GA, how exactly does he plan on winning the Electoral College?

Funny that Kemp was able to comfortably win GA despite a well funded Dem opponent.

Posted by: Blago at November 29, 2022 06:04 PM (PwNLq)

252 >>That's pretty common for apartments in poor neighborhoods.

Yea, but this was a single family house.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2022 06:04 PM (ZLI7S)

253 Yeah no.

Nothing is getting overturned. There will be no voting over.

All complaints and lawsuits will be dismissed.

Just like in 2020. But some people needed to see it again.

Keep donating to the grifters.

Posted by: Not voting our way out at November 29, 2022 06:05 PM (bzIRf)

254 Alaska's multi choice is a shell game

Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2022 06:05 PM (xhxe8)

255 "There's a John McCain contingent in Arizona that will never let go. What the hell are they holding onto? I have not one single clue. Nasty fvcks though they be.
Posted by: Divide by Zer"

They are waiting for the end of the funeral. Show some respect!

Posted by: Ripley at November 29, 2022 06:05 PM (MxEKc)

256 I'd take her to Subway but I don't want her to get diarrhea.

Posted by: wth at November 29, 2022 06:05 PM (v0R5T)

257 > Elizabeth Hurley was never all that. Square jawed.

Hurley circa 2000 was a world class smoke show.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 06:05 PM (j2Xg6)

258 Full disclaimer....I was a walker guy from day one and stayed with him until he flamed out.

************************

Funny I was a Walker guy too until he decided to suck the ass of the chamber of commerce.

Never meet your heroes

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Supporting Endangered Boobies And Gainzzz at November 29, 2022 06:05 PM (VTu1l)

259 "Elizabeth Hurley was never all that."

In "Passenger 57," she was so hawt that I wanted her to shoot me next.

Posted by: Dig gp Must at November 29, 2022 06:07 PM (24fqN)

260 > Yea, but this was a single family house.

Fair enough. Either way it's a serious problem and a election fraud farm.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 06:07 PM (j2Xg6)

261 Walker is obviously going to lose.

I get the "black Republican" appeal, but a 5 minute conversation with the guy should have made it loud and clear he's not fit for office.

I would 100% give him my vote, but why the fuck could Trump not have dome some vetting? Maybe said "let's find someone else"? Instead he put all his energy into beating Kemp in the primary. Then claimed voter fraud is why Kemp won his primary.

Posted by: Blago at November 29, 2022 06:08 PM (PwNLq)

262 252 So just out of curiosity, if Trump is a net negative in GA, how exactly does he plan on winning the Electoral College?

Funny that Kemp was able to comfortably win GA despite a well funded Dem opponent.

Posted by: Blago at November 29, 2022 06:04 PM (PwNLq)

If Walker loses, will you take that as evidence to the contrary?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 06:08 PM (eYoxG)

263 Right now, Trump is by far the single greatest get-out-the-vote catalyst in the U.S. Unfortunately, it's for the Democrats. Posted by: Lieutenant Duh

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Not really. Simply put, you do not clean up voting by putting people doing that in prison for a long time--you will never see GOP victories in any closely divided state.

Working class whites and black/hispanic males hate GOPe incorporated and candidates the McConnell gets the hots for. Most of them do not give one shit about the endless pandering where a millionaire shows up in overalls to talk farmin or some other retarded GOPe shit that their advisors like. These folks want action and they will stay home if you do not do a damn thing for them.

If you consider Phil's weatherman character at the beginning of Groundhog Day, that is what the GOP campaign advisors and handlers are like. I've met them in the past at the national level and more recently at the state level. They are elitist pricks that hate their own voters while lining their own pockets. Plus they are basically as smart on their tactics as the Allies were in trench warfare.

Posted by: whig at November 29, 2022 06:09 PM (bDjBG)

264 244 Alaska has a Democrat Congressman first in 49 years due to the tomfkery of the Uniparty
Posted by: Skip

Nothing to do with Alaskans that are sick of Sarah Palin?
Posted by: Blago at November 29, 2022 06:02 PM (PwNLq)

Rodrigo Borgia, I believe, said it best. Nobody up there likes a quitter. I get why she did it (were I in her stillettos, I'd have done no better), but she basically sealed her political fate up there when she folded under pressure and resigned her Gov seat.

Still don't get the thinking up there, to a certain extent, but I'm not Alaskan. I'm fine with Collins up in ME, for instance, but I'm not a Mainer either.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 29, 2022 06:09 PM (9miN6)

265 Elizabeth Hurley was never all that."

In "Passenger 57," she was so hawt that I wanted her to shoot me next.
Posted by: Dig gp Must at November 29, 2022 06:07 PM (24fqN)

Oh was that poster serious? I thought he was snarking with over the top pessimism.

Posted by: polynikes at November 29, 2022 06:09 PM (JZ+w7)

266 Is ballot harvesting so fucking complicated that republicans can't figure out how to do it? If the democrats are paying $10 per ballot, we pay $20.

If the voter rolls are so screwed up, why doesn't someone take control of the RNC and send in teams of lawyers and researchers to work them over? If there is any resistance, use whatever media we have to show blatant examples of corrupt practices. Call in favors from right wing judges to issue orders for enforcement.

Posted by: jwest at November 29, 2022 06:09 PM (/BlEx)

267 You can't seriously believe the GOPe was behind candidate Trump.

No. But his first election was a shocker all the way around.

But the Never-Trump wing absolutely contributed to his loss in 2020 (though mostly fraud, still yet NT did nothing to combat the fraud). Getting them back in line would be necessary to win again.

What I'm saying is that the GOPe thinks DeSantis is hard-core enough to excite Trump voters (whom they deem to be uncultured retards) and yet he is still establishment enough to get their real agenda accomplished (tax cuts for their corporate donors).

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 29, 2022 06:09 PM (g4JKw)

268 Rick Scott has a pretty good piece in the WashEX

he nails DC

however, he sounds kinda disallusioned and he is really tired of Mitch

he's up for re-election in 2024, just wondering if he will stick around

Posted by: REDACTED at November 29, 2022 06:09 PM (us2H3)

269 The (R)enfield Party brings the (D)racula Party its victims in return for all the bugs and mice it can eat.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 06:00 PM (oINRc)

That's half the equation. (D)racula brings (R)enfield little boys, too.

And films it.

I still think the voting optics are for foreign consumption, though. As people stop voting, expect something like Australia has to penalize people who don't show up at the polls.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 06:09 PM (kJLpK)

270 RNC research says the average US household is paying $433 more per month for the same goods and services compared to a year ago. That's nearly $5,200 per year. And a year ago was more expensive than normal.

https://bit.ly/3u9b8Pt

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 06:09 PM (j2Xg6)

271 Elizabeth Hurley was never all that. Square jawed.

Posted by: JmT at November 29, 2022 06:03 PM

I bet you're gay.

Posted by: Sir Galahad at November 29, 2022 06:10 PM (Wnv9h)

272 You live there and know the election process is corrupt. What did you do?
Posted by: JackStraw
__

Vote for the proposition?

Trump has done jackshit on the effort of voter fraud except bellyache.

I dont think he really believes it, if he did, why is he running again?

If he 2020 and now 2022 are rigged, why will 2024 be different?

Posted by: Blago at November 29, 2022 06:10 PM (PwNLq)

273 >>> We had a prop here in AZ that made it way tougher to vote absentee. It failed, Trump didn't throw one penny or say one word about it.
~~~~~

How much did the RNC spend?

Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2022 06:10 PM (3ImbR)

274 So just out of curiosity, if Trump is a net negative in GA, how exactly does he plan on winning the Electoral College?

He can't. It's rigged. And he's unable to fight it.

But we're going to go through an election cycle where the old man satisfies his ego talking on the big screen. And then he'll lose on Tuesday.

Posted by: Jaguar at November 29, 2022 06:10 PM (qcMKA)

275 Working class whites and black/hispanic males hate GOPe incorporated and candidates the McConnell gets the hots for. Most of them do not give one shit about the endless pandering where a millionaire shows up in overalls to talk farmin or some other retarded GOPe shit that their advisors like. These folks want action and they will stay home if you do not do a damn thing for them.
___

As part of this demographic, this^

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 06:11 PM (isQS2)

276 Is ballot harvesting so fucking complicated that republicans can't figure out how to do it? If the democrats are paying $10 per ballot, we pay $20.

*****************

California GOP running the congressional races evidently figured this out, and we likely have them to thank for the House

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Supporting Endangered Boobies And Gainzzz at November 29, 2022 06:11 PM (VTu1l)

277
Why, exactly, is Walker unfit for office? I know very little about him, but a fucking child could do the job of a legislator.

Unless there's footage of him eating someone, I don't really see what the hell could possibly be disqualifying for a *Senator,* ferpetessakes. These people are all human filth. Even a Walker Cannibal Tape would probably be less bad than the skeletons in his colleagues' closets.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 06:11 PM (oINRc)

278 But we're going to go through an election cycle where the old man satisfies his ego talking on the big screen. And then he'll lose on Tuesday.
Posted by: Jaguar
__

Yep.

I like Trump, but he has no chance in hell.

Posted by: SMH while living in the USSA at November 29, 2022 06:11 PM (isQS2)

279 > If the voter rolls are so screwed up, why doesn't someone take control of the RNC and send in teams of lawyers and researchers to work them over?

I'm pretty sure they do. Every time, the local newspapers print stories about how the right is removing PoC from the voter rolls because they're evil racists.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 06:11 PM (j2Xg6)

280 256 "There's a John McCain contingent in Arizona that will never let go. What the hell are they holding onto? I have not one single clue. Nasty fvcks though they be.
Posted by: Divide by Zer"

Answer: human trafficking and drug money.

Posted by: whig at November 29, 2022 06:11 PM (bDjBG)

281 "So just out of curiosity, if Trump is a net negative in GA, how exactly does he plan on winning the Electoral College?"

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The same way he already did. He's the only Republican since Reagan to crack 300 electoral votes. He has far more paths to 270 than any other GOP candidate and could've lost GA in 2016 and still won comfortably.

It's the Bush/McCain/Romney/GOPe-preferred map that is electorally-challenged and depends on winning a precise group of state and making it to 270 by the hair on one's ass.

Posted by: Brock at November 29, 2022 06:11 PM (OpX6M)

282 mouth breathing retard.

He seems pretty clear on the issues even if he doesn't use standard English.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2022 06:12 PM (vH/6k)

283 Elizabeth Hurley was never all that. Square jawed. Did Clinton do her? Who cares.
Posted by: JmT at November 29, 2022 06:03 PM (ZoOLl)

I watched The Forgotten Battle on Netflix the other day. It's well worth seeing, a out the Dutch in WWII, but also followed other stories. However...

The female lead, I'm not sure how old she is, but I thought her face was damn near perfect. And then it dawned on me... I'm part Dutch! So I guess the moral of the story is, some of this appears to be genetic and our DNA finds preferences where it does. Yeah, Hurley doesn't really do it for me.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 29, 2022 06:12 PM (YV6PJ)

284 Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 29, 2022 06:08 PM (eYoxG)

I think this announcement will suppress the vote for Walker. Lot of Trump supporters are exactly like him and will now stay home out of spite.

That's another reason I want Trump as the only GOP candidate.

Posted by: polynikes at November 29, 2022 06:12 PM (JZ+w7)

285 >>Vote for the proposition?

>>Trump has done jackshit on the effort of voter fraud except bellyache.

>>I dont think he really believes it, if he did, why is he running again?

>>If he 2020 and now 2022 are rigged, why will 2024 be different?

In case you hadn't noticed it's the job of a private citizen from FL to fix your elections in AZ. How much money did DeSantis give, him has hundreds of millions in his war chest. What did he do?

I get it, you hate Trump. But pretending it's his responsibility to fix your states elections is ridiculous. That's the job of Arizona citizens. It's in the Constitution and everything.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2022 06:12 PM (ZLI7S)

286 If you think Trump is a vote getter for Democrats you can't believe they won by fraud in 2020.
It's very possible Trump got close to 75million and Sundowner barely cracked 60

Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2022 06:13 PM (xhxe8)

287 Elizabeth Hurley was never all that."
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Have you seen her boobs?

Posted by: dartist at November 29, 2022 06:13 PM (9X/y4)

288 Trump won in 2020 in Georgia, we all know it was stolen so stop the BS

It’s a win for President Trump

When Hershey loses cause President Trump did not campaign there, he can say, too bad, so sad….

Amd it’s a lie 1/3 republican voters don’t support President Trump in Georgia

Complete lie

Just stop the Trimp hate Ace, DeSantis is bought by the globe amd you can’t handle it

Posted by: Gonzotx at November 29, 2022 06:13 PM (t4poC)

289
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 29, 2022 06:13 PM (ENBF0)

290
I watched one woman testify, a Republican election official, who claimed the voters roles are an absolute joke. In some cases there were up to 9 people registered at a single address and when the lady went to the house to check for accuracy not a single listed person lived at the address and the woman who did had no idea who the people were. And there numerous examples of things like that and that is just one factor.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2022 05:58 PM

Same thing here in Pennsylvania. I had to skirt around the issue with a voters group who visited my home before I owned up to saying 2020 was the most BS election in PA's history. At that point they started citing statistics they had discovered that would singe every-living hair off of 'Admiral' Levine's nipples.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 29, 2022 06:13 PM (enJYY)

291 Oath Keeper founder Stewart Rhodes found guilty of seditious conspiracy for his part in 1/6.

https://bit.ly/3iqREDH

Posted by: bonhomme at November 29, 2022 06:14 PM (j2Xg6)

292 nood

Posted by: Dig gp Must at November 29, 2022 06:14 PM (24fqN)

293 What I'm saying is that the GOPe thinks DeSantis is hard-core enough to excite Trump voters (whom they deem to be uncultured retards) and yet he is still establishment enough to get their real agenda accomplished (tax cuts for their corporate donors).
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 29, 2022 06:09 PM (g4JKw)

The GOPe thinks DeSantis and Trump will split the vote and they can slide some hack like Youngkin or Haley into the nomination. DeSantis is a very smart and tough guy, though, and surely see this. He honestly needs to stay in Florida because this rotten edifice is falling apart and we need strong leaders in the individual states. If people wake up after the implosion, and there even can still be fair elections, there might be a reason for someone like DeSantis to run in 2028. Color me dubious, though.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 29, 2022 06:14 PM (kJLpK)

294 Trump has done jackshit on the effort of voter fraud except bellyache.

I dont think he really believes it, if he did, why is he running again?

If he 2020 and now 2022 are rigged, why will 2024 be different?

Posted by: Blago at November 29, 2022 06:10 PM

Trump's PAC has more money than both the RNC and the DNC combined yet he gave hardly anything to candidates he endorsed in last months election.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 29, 2022 06:14 PM (uNylN)

295 "You guys could be pessimistic about a date with Elizabeth Hurley."

Probably get scabies.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2022 05:49 PM (sn5EN)

worth the risk...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 29, 2022 06:15 PM (Mkvkw)

296 >>Trump has done jackshit on the effort of voter fraud except bellyache.

>>I dont think he really believes it, if he did, why is he running again?
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1. Mind-reading is a claim for leftists.

But you're right. If he really believes elections are rigged, he should be pushing insurrection instead of promoting candidates. >/sarc<

Posted by: Axeman at November 29, 2022 06:15 PM (krQz2)

297 And the Democrats Propaganda Ministry works on taking down Trump every day for the last 6 years

Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2022 06:15 PM (xhxe8)

298 But we're going to go through an election cycle where the old man satisfies his ego talking on the big screen. And then he'll lose on Tuesday.
Posted by: Jaguar__

Yep.
I like Trump, but he has no chance in hell.
Posted by: SMH

But who will have a chance in hell? No Republican who represents and serves us will win. Only those chosen by the establishment to continue the theater. They didn't expect Trump to win, and got caught off guard. It won't happen again.

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at November 29, 2022 06:16 PM (OX9vb)

299 Fine, I'm heading upstairs

Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2022 06:16 PM (xhxe8)

300 Trump has done jackshit on the effort of voter fraud except bellyache.

Posted by: Blago

Show us what you did other than voting to fix Arizona's putrid elections first. Please demonstrate your work.

Arizona GOP happily allowed mail in voting and it has now bit them in the ass via organized voter fraud and will kill your state. Georgia has similar issues because both GOPe politicians simply will not allow elections to be questioned and it is probably because they are knee deep in the shit themselves particularly in primaries. Notice how the brave Maricopa County Recorder and Commission despite being controlled by the GOP made such a mess of voting in Maricopa county just to screw Lake over.

We wonder how such unappealing creatures with no voter appeal show up on the ballot as GOP nominees--my guess is vote fraud and rigging primary races. McConnell himself has been caught doing it for putrid reasons having nothing to do with principle or country but purely to keep his fat ass as controlling GOP grift.

Posted by: whig at November 29, 2022 06:18 PM (bDjBG)

301 245 Elizabeth Hurley was never all that. Square jawed. Did Clinton do her? Who cares.
Posted by: JmT at November 29, 2022 06:03 PM (ZoOLl)
______________

Submitted, for your approval:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BkwnGq2yaA

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 29, 2022 06:18 PM (YqDXo)

302 Mr. Trump also appeared to be a factor in the state's general election in November. Roughly one in three Georgia Republicans who voted said they were not supporters of Mr. Trump's "Make America Great Again" movement.

*points*

Teki.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 29, 2022 06:19 PM (yQpMk)

303 The never Trumpers and the GopE types think that when the left has total victory they will be benevolent to the useful idiots. Hasn't worked out in Marxist takeover yet. The little Marxist s arrogantly say that"communism just hasn't been tried right yet" The collaborators say "collaboration just hasn't been tried right yet " duh

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 29, 2022 06:19 PM (5+3xu)

304 >>> I'm fine with Collins up in ME, for instance, but I'm not a Mainer either.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 29, 2022 06:09 PM (9miN6)
-[-------------

Yup, she will be the last Republican from ME.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 29, 2022 06:22 PM (BJC33)

305 Trump's PAC has more money than both the RNC and the DNC combined yet he gave hardly anything to candidates he endorsed in last months election.

---------------

It's literally the responsibility of the NRSC, SLF, NRCC, and RNC to bankroll Senate and Congressional candidates and secure majorities, not Trump's.

Trump's PACs exist to get him re-elected president.

DeSantis was sitting on $200 million, purportedly for a gubernatorial re-election campaign. He certainly did not deplete his coffers to finance that slob RINO Senate candidate he endorsed in Colorado.

Posted by: Brock at November 29, 2022 06:23 PM (OpX6M)

306
I'm tired of thinking that women are too stupid to understand birth control. Birth control has only been around for more than half a century. Or that the issue should be a voting issue that allows their stupidity to continue or decide elections.

Go ahead, call me a misogynist. I know an other word... misandry.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 29, 2022 06:25 PM (enJYY)

307 286 If you think Trump is a vote getter for Democrats you can't believe they won by fraud in 2020.
It's very possible Trump got close to 75million and Sundowner barely cracked 60
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2022 06:13 PM (xhxe

The two positions are NOT mutually exclusive.

Democrat turnout was very high in 2020, which meant they needed to create fewer votes than they otherwise would have had to do.

Hatred of Trump increased the Democrat vote (some of that was Never Trump), meaning less fraud was required. IMHO, if you do not believe that TDS fuels voter turnout against him, I don't really know where you've been the last couple of years.

But yes, I do believe there was still fraud. Just less was required.

Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at November 29, 2022 06:27 PM (3DTwf)

308 Why, exactly, is Walker unfit for office? I know very little about him, but a fucking child could do the job of a legislator.

Unless there's footage of him eating someone, I don't really see what the hell could possibly be disqualifying for a *Senator,* ferpetessakes. These people are all human filth. Even a Walker Cannibal Tape would probably be less bad than the skeletons in his colleagues' closets.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2022 06:11 PM (oINRc)

-----------

Agree. There are probably only 3 or 4 Senators fit for the office.

And Walker being a non-politician is certainly better than the vast majority of the human filth in DC.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 29, 2022 06:29 PM (cMXNt)

309 Calling BS. They all won
And were cheated out of office just like President Trump

“117 Trump is conceding he is poison in this race. He had a mediocre record in the midterms with close race endorsements.”

Posted by: Gonzotx at November 29, 2022 06:40 PM (t4poC)

310 The ads against Walker in Georgia generally focus on his behavior from 10-12 years ago, and his opposition to abortion. As if a U.S. Senator can do much about what is now in the purvey of State legislatures. No one accused the average Democrat voter of being well-informed, or thinking critically.

Warnock, less than 2 years ago, tried to run his ex-wife over with his car, and his church is a slum lord running a tenement apartment building that is unfit to live in - but that doesn't seem to matter.

Walker's also been painted as dishonest, and unintelligent. There are billboards in Atlanta that say:

"I'm not that smart."
- Herschel Walker

We all know from numerous examples that IQ is not a pre-requisite for public office, and if honesty were required, few would ever get elected or stay in office long. I don't know what Herschel's IQ is, but I'll wager that Warnock's isn't much higher, if it's higher at all. Herschel is not a particularly glib public speaker, but he's not stupid, either.

So, it boils down to "he's unfit, because he's a Republican."

Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at November 29, 2022 06:43 PM (3DTwf)

311 Do you REALLY think voting works as intended?

Posted by: JackWayne at November 29, 2022 06:56 PM (zzF4A)

312 It's a done deal that we on the other side of the great divide knew was a fix from the beginning. Our so called "elections" don't matter.

This is all about the oligarchy such as the pure evil Larry Fink at Blackstone, George Soros and his evil spawn, etc., and the Tech oligarchy manipulating information for the Chinese bought "Great Reset."

Posted by: Legioinvictus at November 29, 2022 06:58 PM (M9CIr)

313 PooPrints:

Our goal is to increase responsible pet ownership through education, expand pet access and decrease the environmental impact of dog waste.

Using DNA technology to track down pet poopers

Posted by: SMOD at November 29, 2022 07:26 PM (X5CsJ)

314 Georgia's votes are tabulated in Shenzhen.

It makes no difference if President Trump goes to Tblisi or Thomasville.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 29, 2022 07:31 PM (Ndje9)

315 McCarthy's argument that if he isn't elected speaker on the first ballot is simply bizarre given politics. He seems to suggest that his minions, denied his speakership, will just rather vote for a democrat instead and not join the 20 plus republicans voting for a Republican leader - or that some large contingent would anyway.

This gives the game away right here - McCarthy is saying that his coalition would rather have liberal unelected leaders than that which was chosen by the people. He should be tossed just for suggesting it - and it won't happen anyway since Congress critters love their committee assignments. The man is an idiot for even throwing that out there...

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