Thanksgiving Weekend vs. The Current Thing

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Hope everyone is having a happy, or at least a meaningful, Thanksgiving Weekend. The holiday season can bring happiness, joy and contentment but also pain, frustration and grief. But it gives us an opportunity to reflect on aspects of life that go beyond the Current Thing. It is hard to avoid the Current Thing, but we are fortunate when we can discuss some other topics.

Speaking personally, I think that most of us have much to be grateful for every day. Not just on Thanksgiving Day. Sometimes it seems like our blessing are even miraculous.

Thomas Sowell:

Thanksgiving may be our most old-fashioned holiday. Gratitude itself seems out of date at a time when so many people feel "entitled" to whatever they get -- and indignant that they didn't get more.

Did you survive Black Friday without injury?

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The Current Thing vs. Other Things

What would you say the Current Thing is right now?


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Let's see how well Walter Kirn follows his own advice. Here is a recent tweet, with one of the replies he received:

Utopianism: Beyond the one child policy

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Kirn's post sort of reminds me of Buck Throckmorton's extraordinary Morning Rant yesterday. Read it again and think about whether it relates both to Walter Kirn's post and to the responses he received.

Do you remember where you were when the Berlin Wall fell, and Eastern Europe was suddenly free of Soviet tyranny?

I was not long out of college, and traveling for my job. Sitting in my motel room that night, I watched the TV in joyful disbelief, trying to fathom that this day had come. I genuinely thought I’d never see this day in my lifetime. . .

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Speaking of failures of socialism, I read yesterday in passing about Justin Trudeau speaking in French in some forum so people wouldn't understand him. But the French province in Canada (along with rural areas) is not doing well under the Canadian socialized medicine program. It was just a matter of time.

Here is one mother with an excruciating personal experience.

The USA could also be affected (medical supplies) by the current lockdown in China. Don't have to look far to see failures of utopianism:

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Can we leave this conflict to the Left? They have a new challenge to their rules.
Misgendering mass murderers

Or are there wider implications? Is it miraculous that we are not at each other's throats all the time, given the constant hectoring to which we are subjected?

Educators and "style guides" seem to be failing us. Maybe we need some rocking chairs on the front porch. Interesting that Ray Bradbury foresaw a dystopia in which there were no front porches or rocking chairs.

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Music

Merle Haggard


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Hope you have something nice planned for this holiday weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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Last week's thread, November 19, Pre-Thanksgiving Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Are we living through the Grand Endumbening?

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

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1 Did you survive Black Friday without injury?
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Not having to shop for anyone helps with that.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 11:10 AM (fKYST)

2 Oh. I stopped to read the content.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at November 26, 2022 11:13 AM (I9VC/)

3 Oh. I stopped to read the content.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at November 26, 2022 11:13 AM (I9VC/)

Me too.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 26, 2022 11:14 AM (4I/2K)

4 Good morning all.
I think it's ironic that they made Black Friday the entire month of November and then don't understand why sales were lackluster yesterday.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 26, 2022 11:15 AM (Y+l9t)

5 Master wordsmith.

Justin Trudeau appears on drag race show, says society needs to "move beyond 'tolerate' and start embracing" drag queens

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:15 AM (FVME7)

6 No Black Friday shopping here. The long weekend is for hanging out at home, eating leftovers, and putting up outdoor Christmas lights.

Posted by: JuJuBee, fact checker hammered by events at November 26, 2022 11:16 AM (tM5h4)

7 Black month maybe,

Oh wait, we have that

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 26, 2022 11:16 AM (xhxe8)

8 I didn't go shopping on Friday. Spouse did by a cable for son's computer today, but that isn't a Christmas gift.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 11:16 AM (io/eI)

9 I was in Germany when the Berlin Wall fell.

You're welcome.

We were told by the powers that be, we'd be overwhelmed by refugees coming from the East. We quickly prepared every cot and blanket we could find, gathered other supplies and readied the auditorium on post for the mass of people.

The mass of people never came. They say most East Germans whooped and hollered and danced and drank and whatever else on that day, then promptly went back home.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 11:17 AM (NWBBy)

10 What is this "Black Friday" thing?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 26, 2022 11:17 AM (llON8)

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Is it miraculous that we are not at each other's throats all the time, given the constant hectoring to which we are subjected?

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I don't listen or talk to the hectorers. I've cut them out of my life. Therefore, I feel no impulse to be at their throats.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2022 11:18 AM (MoZTd)

12 That fake meat stuff in invading my local Walmart, I saw "plant based" meatballs in the freezer section this morning. They don't keep stuff in stock if people aren't buying it. If they don't sell enough of something they put it on clearance and get rid of it.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 26, 2022 11:18 AM (uNylN)

13 Apparently Spectrum has taken over the world.

Former CIA Analyst Declares "Freedom of Speech Is Nonsense" on CNN

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:19 AM (FVME7)

14 When the Soviet Union fell, I recall thinking "it's a trap!" or alternatively "I bet everything gets really, really weird and shitty for us here in America. Them commies are SOBs, but the iron curtain insulated us from a lot of bad stuff I betcha".

Posted by: Common Tater at November 26, 2022 11:20 AM (O9tRg)

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Who knee in 1988 that everything we fought against would vanish like a soap bubble? And who knew that 35 years later we'd have to fight them again in our own country?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2022 11:20 AM (MoZTd)

16 Why are the sidebar ads so disgusting these days? Do pictures of gross bodily parts cause people to click? Seems very counterintuitive to me.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 26, 2022 11:20 AM (Y+l9t)

17 My late mother was a nurse in Detroit hospitals up to the 90's. It wasn't just patients coming across for care in Detroit, nurses were coming across to work in Detroit and surrounding areas--the pay and work conditions were better as far back as that.

Posted by: Lirio100 at November 26, 2022 11:21 AM (w/VHS)

18 Misgendering is bullshit when it comes to people pretending to be the opposite sex. It can be difficult when you do what the left wants and deliberately misgender people to encourage a transition, and that is abuse. Kids are particularly susceptible to harm from being called "girlish" when they are biological boys, or boyish when they are biological girls. The "misgendering" is a deliberate leftist ploy and mostly on their side.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 11:21 AM (Zzbjj)

19 12 That fake meat stuff in invading my local Walmart, I saw "plant based" meatballs in the freezer section this morning. They don't keep stuff in stock if people aren't buying it. If they don't sell enough of something they put it on clearance and get rid of it.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 26, 2022 11:18 AM (uNylN)

vegan Meatball just went on my ever growing list of OxyMorons.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 26, 2022 11:21 AM (oHd/0)

20 Damn I hate being willowed on a wordy comment. Like I was talking to a group and the audience just turned and walked away. 😀

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 11:21 AM (nBhwo)

21 Did you survive Black Friday without injury?

Always. If I shop for Christmas, which doesn't happen anymore, it's the day or two before, when you start to really feel that Christmas is coming.

Posted by: t-bird at November 26, 2022 11:22 AM (hPvGe)

22 All the people telling that young mom of an asthmatic toddler with pneumonia "THIS IS WHY PEOPLE SHOULD WEAR MASKS!" should be shot. With WuFlu boosters, of course.

Posted by: pookysgirl would never recommend high-velocity lead injections at November 26, 2022 11:22 AM (XKZwp)

23 Polynikes, happens to me all the time. 😉

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 26, 2022 11:23 AM (Y+l9t)

24 polynikes,
Had lithotripsy almost 15 years ago after having my second child. No biggie, but I was also surprised about having to go under. You will have a big bruise over that kidney and be sore for a few days around that area. Totally worth it if you've ever felt the pain of a blockage.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 26, 2022 11:24 AM (UUBmN)

25 I had to scrounge up some more cranberries I had frozen from a while back. This leftover business is exhausting. I may need a nap before football.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 26, 2022 11:24 AM (geVLo)

26 The Devine Demonic Miss M!

Bette Midler Trashes Thanksgiving, Calls Pilgrims “Undocumented Aliens from Europe”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:24 AM (FVME7)

27
So Montreal is now Montréal? Great.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2022 11:24 AM (MoZTd)

28 Thanksgiving Day 1943, my father's artillery unit had just arrived in its first hostile battle environment in the Italian hills north of Naples, and were welcomed by heavy enemy barrages.

The EZ Dog diary
Nov 25, 1943
Thanksgiving. Rainy, cold. Battery
moved up to its first position vic[inity] Piccilli, approx 4500 behind front lines. 937 [FA Bn] moved up at night. Our baptism under fire was purely Baptist. Immersion.


Easy Dog is Army phonetic alphabet (c. WWII) for my dad's initials.

R.I.P.Earl Duane a life well-lived. Eternal thanks!!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2022 11:24 AM (ykeLU)

29 I have no comment.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 26, 2022 11:25 AM (Qzn2/)

30 Did you survive Black Friday without injury?

I buy a lot online. I did go hang out at my estate liquidator friend's shop for a while, and sent kid2 home with some beautiful end tables, mirrors, and a few other nice things for the house.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 11:25 AM (Zzbjj)

31 Apparently Spectrum has taken over the world.

Former CIA Analyst Declares "Freedom of Speech Is Nonsense" on CNN
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:19 AM (FVME7)

I continue to work from the assumption the CIA was infiltrated from the start, and the entire org was essentially the corrupt, un-American protector of the elites all along.

Pretty much every operation they got their hands on, went badly for the American people. Assuming of course, one believes murdering Presidents, Presidential candidates, and Civil Rights leaders is not a good thing.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 11:25 AM (NWBBy)

32 23 Polynikes, happens to me all the time. 😉
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 26, 2022 11:23 AM (Y+l9t)

I often think of my posts as "thread killers".

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 11:26 AM (Zzbjj)

33 Fidel Castro's idiot child is a piece of shit.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at November 26, 2022 11:26 AM (eGTCV)

34 Portland Antifa Threatening Violent Protests at Tesla Dealerships After Mass Banning of Antifa Twitter Accounts

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Boy, that's not hardly a terroristic threat at all.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:27 AM (FVME7)

35 Did you survive Black Friday without injury?

I buy a lot online. I did go hang out at my estate liquidator friend's shop for a while, and sent kid2 home with some beautiful end tables, mirrors, and a few other nice things for the house.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 11:25 AM


I went to Walmart at 9 Friday morning and there were no lines. Some people there picking up cheap TV's but no crowds like in the past. I suspect most people are shopping on line these days.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 26, 2022 11:27 AM (uNylN)

36 Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2022 11:24 AM (ykeLU)

I see where you get your sense of humor.

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 11:27 AM (nBhwo)

37 What is this "Black Friday" thing?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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This☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻

Posted by: lin-duh at November 26, 2022 11:27 AM (UUBmN)

38 HAPPY BIRTHDAY SMH !

Posted by: JT at November 26, 2022 11:27 AM (T4tVD)

39
Bette Midler Trashes Thanksgiving, Calls Pilgrims “Undocumented Aliens from Europe”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:24 AM (FVME7)

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Go away, Bette. Go somewhere else, you fag hag. Canada, France, Uzbekistan, I don't care. Take all your like-minded oikophobes along with you.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2022 11:28 AM (MoZTd)

40 I had just joined the Army, defered enlistment about a week before the wall fell. Guaranteed West Germany deployment. Landed in Germany on Flag Day 1990. Saw reunification and drank Goldschlager with Russian soldiers in Berlin 4th of July 1990. Basked in the Winds of Change for about 3 months and Desert Shield hit.

I may or may not have a piece of the wall. Pretty sure every loose rock within 100 miles of Berlin became a "piece of the wall" for tourist purposes.

Posted by: Reforger at November 26, 2022 11:29 AM (pK3iw)

41 Justin Trudeau appears on drag race show, says society needs to "move beyond 'tolerate' and start embracing" drag queens
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:15 AM (FVME7)

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He is a Richelieu, a Metternich, a Hindenburg, a Talleyrand. A giant, and a Statesman for the
Ages.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 26, 2022 11:29 AM (Qzn2/)

42 Bette Midler Trashes Thanksgiving, Calls Pilgrims “Undocumented Aliens from Europe”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:24 AM (FVME7)

Oh! Bette Midler is still alive.

Now we know.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 11:29 AM (NWBBy)

43
I was out yesterday for about 2-1/2 hours running errands. Traffic was light and normal, but I was deliberately avoiding what likely were more heavily trafficked commercial areas.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at November 26, 2022 11:29 AM (pNxlR)

44 Posted by: lin-duh at November 26, 2022 11:24 AM (UUBmN)

Thanks for the heads up.

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 11:29 AM (nBhwo)

45 I experienced "White Guilt" seminars as a factory worker in the 80's. This happened in MN, by the way.

White guilt is nothing new, it's just become a more virulent pestilence inflicted on the masses.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at November 26, 2022 11:30 AM (5pTK/)

46 I think if Pierre Castro wants to go in drag have at it

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 26, 2022 11:30 AM (xhxe8)

47 Growing Body of Evidence Suggests Social Influence Is Behind Transgender Craze

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"Social influence"? I'm pretty sure they mean either "antisocial" or "socialist".

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:31 AM (FVME7)

48 I may or may not have a piece of the wall. Pretty sure every loose rock within 100 miles of Berlin became a "piece of the wall" for tourist purposes.
Posted by: Reforger at November 26, 2022 11:29 AM (pK3iw)

They say if you put together every piece of The Cross that's out there, the thing would be about 1000 feet tall, 500 feet wide.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 11:31 AM (NWBBy)

49
He is a Richelieu, a Metternich, a Hindenburg, a Talleyrand. A giant, and a Statesman for the
Ages.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 26, 2022 11:29 AM (Qzn2/)

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The Elagabalus of an inconsequential country.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2022 11:31 AM (MoZTd)

50 I told my climate cult sister from LA that we are the carbon AGW activists want to get rid of and she absolutely agreed. Of course she thought this is a good thing. Her belief is that no children should be allowed to be born anywhere in the world for at least one generation. When I asked, "Then what?" she just looked blankly at me. Apparently the LATimes and MSNBC haven't given her the answer to that.

Posted by: Terentia at November 26, 2022 11:31 AM (9Nlqa)

51 I wonder how many undocumented migrants Bette Midler invited into her home this Thanksgiving.

Or does she just run her mouth?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 26, 2022 11:32 AM (Qzn2/)

52
Bette Midler Trashes Thanksgiving, Calls Pilgrims “Undocumented Aliens from Europe”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:24 AM


I figured it was Babylon Bee and was prepared to laugh. Now I'll have to wait a day for their reply.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 26, 2022 11:32 AM (y3pKJ)

53 "Like I was talking to a group and the audience just turned and stampeded away."

fify

Posted by: fd at November 26, 2022 11:32 AM (sn5EN)

54 I have no idea what to get my kids, well my boys. My daughter got an early gift of a competition pew-pew. It was was more expensive than any pew I've ever owned... she'll get some stocking stuffers and accessories for it. The boys...no idea. The oldest is about to drive so maybe a gas card.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 26, 2022 11:33 AM (UUBmN)

55 Posted by: Terentia at November 26, 2022 11:31 AM (9Nlqa)

She sounds very stupid. Sorry, but it's the truth.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 11:33 AM (Zzbjj)

56 "but also pain, frustration and grief"

Which means the holidays can be a good time to show love to your neighbor. Show them something other than the nihilism the left offers, a solution bigger than politics or government. Yes, even if they're one of *those* people - as much as you can.

Posted by: GWB at November 26, 2022 11:33 AM (u0q5Q)

57 Growing Body of Evidence Suggests Social Influence Is Behind Transgender Craze

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*jaw hits the floor*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 26, 2022 11:33 AM (Qzn2/)

58 Gosh, Bette, the US was a recognized country when the Pilgrims arrived and they somehow evaded customs and immigration?

Learn something new and stupid every single day.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at November 26, 2022 11:34 AM (5pTK/)

59 Richelieu, a Metternich, a Hindenburg, a Talleyrand

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man, World Cup is catching on...is that the German team ?

Posted by: runner at November 26, 2022 11:34 AM (V13WU)

60 47 Growing Body of Evidence Suggests Social Influence Is Behind Transgender Craze

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"Social influence"? I'm pretty sure they mean either "antisocial" or "socialist".
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:31 AM (FVME7)

People misgendering and pushing "transitions" for money and a sociopathic thrill? YES

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 11:34 AM (Zzbjj)

61 Effective covid control.

https://bit.ly/3gwEzbm

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:34 AM (FVME7)

62 Thee is a tiny Target across the street from my condo. I stopped in on Wednesday to pick something up and there were boxes stacked everywhere and store personnel trying to figure out where to put everything. There were loads of giant TVs with crazy prices. This store is two floors with maybe 1000 sq ft on each floor with a Starbucks and a CVS pharmacy and maybe 6 grocery aisles. Why anyone would actually purchase a major item there is beyond me when I can have it delivered to my door by ordering online.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 26, 2022 11:34 AM (Y+l9t)

63 Does Bette Midler every come out of hiding to say anything positive about the US? Maybe she did when the "great" Obama was in charge.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 11:34 AM (io/eI)

64 "And who knew that 35 years later we'd have to fight them again in our own country?"

right ... The old mantra was "they never tried real communism, we will do communism correctly".

But there is a flip side about "capitalism". The post WW2 path gave USA dominance and the reserve currency. But looking at Woke Corp and their power to push that religion, power to unite with BigGov to rig elections and collect billions (e.g. Google monopoly, Pfizer lying for profit, etc.) ... Maybe we really did not "do capitalism right"?

Small business was punished, plebes were masked and kept from church, but BigBox and BLM were free to operate. Constant TooBigToFail/Jail actions made the richest insanely rich, as they hide in their secret foundations and run the world. Liberty lost its ascendancy, the sovereign individual now monitored by a BigTech/BigGov alliance. (and now China marches through our institutions?)

Posted by: illiniwek at November 26, 2022 11:35 AM (Cus5s)

65
Tallyrand

"Shit in a silk stocking." - Napoleon

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2022 11:35 AM (MoZTd)

66 I've never felt white guilt and never will. I have felt what I guess you could call a form of slight guilt of being undeserving but mostly gratitude from the blessings God has provided. I try to pay them forward as best I can.

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 11:35 AM (nBhwo)

67 Bette Midler Trashes Thanksgiving, Calls Pilgrims “Undocumented Aliens from Europe”

Are you suggesting undocumented aliens are bad and should be removed, Bette?

Posted by: t-bird at November 26, 2022 11:35 AM (Ac9bb)

68 Or are there wider implications? Is it miraculous that we are not at each other's throats all the time, given the constant hectoring to which we are subjected?

It helps to be male in that men, generally speaking, are wired up in a way to compartmentalize things. Also being a man of faith, while I do have a temporal nihilistic view of this world, I look forward to our heavenly home.

Men are also tuned to need respect and purpose. The women in my life look at me as a eunuch servant who is inept in every possible way and needs constant hectoring because I apparently thrive on being berated.

This is why I turn to work for any respect and appreciation. I keep various clients happy, and in that I can get some level of appreciation even though it is all superficial.

So I have a lifetime of training to be treated like shit except by those who are more distant. It seems the closer I am to people the more abuse they feel free to heap on me.

It is odd though that a woke company I work for, I get more respect and courtesy from transexuals, atheists and those who go by the pronouns they/them than I get from the church and my own family.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 11:36 AM (3hSHB)

69 Her belief is that no children should be allowed to be born anywhere in the world for at least one generation. When I asked, "Then what?" she just looked blankly at me.

Just tell her you agree, but that her line won't have kids for TWO generations, while yours propagate. The math shows they're equal.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 26, 2022 11:36 AM (eOEVl)

70 To be fair, Canada and Trudeau do have a solution to their socialist induced healthcare problems. A socialist designed euthanasia program.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 26, 2022 11:36 AM (qH6FZ)

71 As I may have mentioned, my kids used to be fond of hoo-rawing their mother for her sheltered life.

Especially when I asked them if (insert name) could possibly be that stupid.

Twitter has cured me of that.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at November 26, 2022 11:37 AM (wE246)

72 KT, your neighbor rocks!

Posted by: Eromero at November 26, 2022 11:37 AM (4svuj)

73 What would you say the Current Thing is right now?



Twitter.

Which is like the movie Inception, in a way.

Discussing the current thing on the platform for the current thing.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 11:37 AM (Ll5Vg)

74 Richelieu, a Metternich, a Hindenburg, a Talleyrand . . .

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Walk into a bar . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:37 AM (FVME7)

75 20lb Brother kitteh has just claimed my lap. He's definitely going on a diet though it's probably only a pound or two he needs to lose. He's a big boy.

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 11:37 AM (nBhwo)

76 >>Bette Midler Trashes Thanksgiving, Calls Pilgrims “Undocumented Aliens from Europe”

Injuns should have built a wall. Live and learn.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2022 11:37 AM (ZLI7S)

77 Which means the holidays can be a good time to show love to your neighbor. Show them something other than the nihilism the left offers, a solution bigger than politics or government. Yes, even if they're one of *those* people - as much as you can.
Posted by: GWB at November 26, 2022 11:33 AM (u0q5Q)

My son is going to be spending some weeks with his sister. She's getting cash from me, so there's that.

As for me, I'll be alone in a new town for the holiday season. I've told others my plan is to find a charity that needs volunteers. I hope I don't punk out and just stay home by myself. I know me.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 11:37 AM (NWBBy)

78 Black Friday is the day that people go shopping to get a 40% discount so they can spend the same amount as last year without a discount.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 11:39 AM (Wy1BU)

79 How is that Bette Midler arrived on our shores? Did she hack a couple acres out of the forest and go hungry for a couple years? Suffer through a few cold, dark winters? How is it that Bette Midler gets to call the people that paved the way for her effortless lifestyle and thoughtless mindset illegal immigrants?

Posted by: Erik In Texas at November 26, 2022 11:40 AM (z0DEK)

80 It helps to be male in that men, generally speaking, are wired up in a way to compartmentalize things.

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Why can't a woman be more like a man?
Men are so honest, so thoroughly square;
Eternally noble, historic'ly fair;
Who, when you win, will always give your back a pat.
Well, why can't a woman be like that?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:40 AM (FVME7)

81 As to the Berlin Wall....

I grew up hearing the story of my mom and uncle* visiting the Berlin Wall in 1965 or '66. As they stood on one of the overlook points, an old man sitting in a barren garden on the other side asked if they were Americans. When they replied affirmatively, he told them "As long as there is America, I can have hope." Being born in West Germany, that story gripped my heart my entire life. I despaired of ever seeing Germany re-united in freedom. But that man was right - there is always hope.

I had come home from a long day at the office (Military Training Division in Fairchild Hall while I waited for my waivers to go to pilot training) and hadn't turned on the tv yet. Honestly, I didn't have any desire to watch the news. But my phone rang. It was my mom, asking "Have you seen the news?!" When I turned the tv on, there were people standing ON the Berlin Wall! I broke down and cried. It was a hope I never thought to see in my lifetime. It was also one of the reasons I joined the military - to defend against the enemy that was worldwide communism. And here one of their fortresses had fallen!

Yeah, I remember where I was, and WHY.
1/2

Posted by: GWB at November 26, 2022 11:40 AM (u0q5Q)

82 I went to Walmart at 9 Friday morning and there were no lines. Some people there picking up cheap TV's but no crowds like in the past. I suspect most people are shopping on line these days.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 26, 2022 11:27 AM (uNylN)



Or.....since November of 2021, Americans have spent down $1.1 trillion of personal savings, nearly 60% of their savings.

Everyone is broke.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 11:40 AM (Ll5Vg)

83 Black Friday is the day that people go shopping to get a 40% discount so they can spend the same amount as last year without a discount.
Posted by: Madamemayhem
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lol

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 11:41 AM (eBD6b)

84 If I ever encounter an actual BLM activist in person, this is how it's going to go:

BLAMTIFA: You have white privilege!

Me (obviously pissed off): Privilege?! What privilege? We didn't have cable until I was in high school! We were too poor for Hamburger Helper! I wore hand-me-downs that didn't fit because I was taller than my sister!

BLAMTIFA: You benefited from systematic oppression of people of color that....

Me (even more pissed off): PROVE IT!

(And this is when the cops get called.)

Posted by: pookysgirl doesn't go out much for good reason at November 26, 2022 11:41 AM (XKZwp)

85 Richelieu, a Metternich, a Hindenburg, a Talleyrand . . .

...or as they are known to their hockey teammates: Richie, Maets, Hindy and T-rand

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2022 11:41 AM (ykeLU)

86 They say if you put together every piece of The Cross that's out there, the thing would be about 1000 feet tall, 500 feet wide.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 11:31 AM (NWBBy)

Oddly entering into this is I was stationed in Bamberg where I do believe a piece resides. A real one though not one of those other ones.

Some of the Churches there are beyond awesome and it escaped WWII intact so they look like they did hundreds of years ago. There is one with an Organ that only little kids can pump, nobody over 5 or so can fit into it. Been there since like 1400. Sounds incredible.

Posted by: Reforger at November 26, 2022 11:41 AM (X6nuc)

87 Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 26, 2022 11:34 AM (Y+l9t)

I'm still a brick and mortar guy. I also still have a checkbook though I rarely use it.

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 11:41 AM (nBhwo)

88 Bette Midler Trashes Thanksgiving, Calls Pilgrims “Undocumented Aliens from Europe”

Stupid bitches can't understand normal thinking.

Guess those Indians needed to build the Wall!

Posted by: Common Tater at November 26, 2022 11:41 AM (O9tRg)

89 I've never felt white guilt and never will. I have felt what I guess you could call a form of slight guilt of being undeserving but mostly gratitude from the blessings God has provided. I try to pay them forward as best I can.

^^^ ALL OF THIS ^^^^

I work hard in the things I get paid to do, and in being as helpful and mindful of the needs of others even though I am 100% certain that I'll never receive any token expressions of gratitude. I don't do it for me, even though there is a lot of Golden and Silver Rules involved in the decision. We all are made in the Image of God, and while I know I can't purchase gratitude in others, even if I received it, it would pale in the Day when I can hear "Well Done, Good and Faithful Servant" even though I know I could have done more, and could have done what meager things I have done, could have been better.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 11:42 AM (3hSHB)

90 Getting fired up here. Twenty minutes until The Game kickoff. Go Bucks.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 11:42 AM (Xrfse)

91 That Emer O'Toole woman is part of the problem. She only thinks it's an issue because it's her kid. Probably voted for Trudeau and socialized medicine. Look at the language she uses. She cares about nothing around her or the general rot. It's just unacceptable that her child didn't make it to the front of the line.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 11:42 AM (S/NWs)

92 Or.....since November of 2021, Americans have spent down $1.1 trillion of personal savings, nearly 60% of their savings.

Everyone is broke.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
___

yep

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 11:42 AM (eBD6b)

93 Everyone is broke.

*******

...and the sky is grey...

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2022 11:43 AM (ykeLU)

94 Bette Midler Trashes Thanksgiving, Calls Pilgrims “Undocumented Aliens from Europe”

Stupid bitches can't understand normal thinking.
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Once again, I will care about the supposed rise in antisemitism when Jews stop going on national television trying to destroy my culture and history and race.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 11:43 AM (S/NWs)

95 Bette is an asshole and she's always been an asshole.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 11:43 AM (Zzbjj)

96 2/2
* My uncle couldn't visit East Berlin. His position in 3rd ID was such that he would have been nabbed. I don't know if his Green Beret time in 'Nam was before and/or after that tour of duty.

My uncle is also why I'm even here. My mom went to visit him in Germany and met this Air Force sergeant, fell in love and got married there.

Posted by: GWB at November 26, 2022 11:43 AM (u0q5Q)

97 Well, better go make pie.

Everyone have a good one.
Thankful for each and every one of you.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at November 26, 2022 11:43 AM (wE246)

98 No more dicking around!

CNN Security Analyst Argues for Denying Firearms to Young Men

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:43 AM (FVME7)

99 ...and the sky is grey...

And foggy and rainy here.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 11:44 AM (eBD6b)

100 They say if you put together every piece of The Cross that's out there, the thing would be about 1000 feet tall, 500 feet wide.

Which is made even more weird when you consider that Christ was crucified between two thieves all on a large olive tree.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 11:44 AM (3hSHB)

101 100

Posted by: m at November 26, 2022 11:44 AM (rnYgr)

102 Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 11:43 AM (S/NWs)

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Wow. The whole Joooo thing kind of came out of nowhere.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 26, 2022 11:45 AM (Qzn2/)

103 The women in my life look at me as a eunuch servant who is inept in every possible way and needs constant hectoring because I apparently thrive on being berated. Posted by: Reuben Hick

Sounds to me like those gals need to be spanked until they know who the fuck daddy is.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 11:45 AM (Wy1BU)

104 "CNN Security Analyst Argues for Denying Firearms to Young Men"

Country would be a lot safer if we denied journalists the first amendment.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 11:45 AM (S/NWs)

105 Computer is slooooow today.
That top take-out Thanksgiving food tray is the greatest!

Posted by: m at November 26, 2022 11:45 AM (rnYgr)

106
Justin Trudeau appears on drag race show, says society needs to "move beyond 'tolerate' and start embracing" drag queens
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkstory


No, you unserious twit.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at November 26, 2022 11:46 AM (pNxlR)

107 "Wow. The whole Joooo thing kind of came out of nowhere."

It didn't. There's a consistent trend of anti-white rhetoric from rich Jews on television.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 11:46 AM (S/NWs)

108 Thank you for the h/t. Although I'm a Walter Kirn fan I had missed that tweet from him. Good stuff as always, KT.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at November 26, 2022 11:47 AM (d9Cw3)

109 86 They say if you put together every piece of The Cross that's out there, the thing would be about 1000 feet tall, 500 feet wide.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 11:31 AM (NWBBy)

In "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds", originally published in 1841, Charles Mackay had a marvelous chapter on the Crusades. (Still one of the best overall explanations I've ever read) In that chapter he wrote "If all the pieces of the True Cross were brought back together, they could reforest the mountains of Lebanon!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2022 11:48 AM (r46W7)

110 I really do wish these Americans who have the means and hate their country would walk the walk and move to another country and give up their citizenship. I would respect that.

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 11:48 AM (nBhwo)

111 These leftists trashing Thanksgiving are unhappy, angry people. Do they need to make a slight on TG to still feel relevant if nobody sees you in musical shows anymore or more and more people are tuning out of your TV analysis ( Joy Reid, Joy Behar, Sunny Hostin?) BTW, Sunny Hostin has the nickname because her actually name is Ascension. How religious! Sunny certainly doesn't have a Sunny personality .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 11:48 AM (io/eI)

112 Everyone is broke.

*******

...and the sky is grey...

......


I was 1990s dreamin',
Looking at my 401k.....

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 11:49 AM (Ll5Vg)

113 England World Cup Fans Cautioned Not to Wear “Crusader” Garb that Might “‘Offend Muslims”

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Hey! Let's not lose our heads!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:49 AM (FVME7)

114 Or.....since November of 2021, Americans have spent down $1.1 trillion of personal savings, nearly 60% of their savings.

Technically, I would be part of that group but my excuse is that I bought a house, moving expenses, an luxury mattress, a refrigerator, a car, professionally painted interior, hardwood flooring replacing all of the formerly carpeted areas, replacing all electrical with new outlets, LED bulbs and dimmable switches, a new hot water heater and a five ton variable heat pump.

Barring something cataclysmic, I should be able to be back on track through good old fashioned frugal living.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 11:49 AM (3hSHB)

115 They say if you put together every piece of The Cross that's out there, the thing would be about 1000 feet tall, 500 feet wide.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 11:31 AM (NWBBy)

Martin Luther: Luckily for me, Rome had enough nails from the Holy Cross to shoe every horse in Saxony!

Posted by: GWB at November 26, 2022 11:49 AM (u0q5Q)

116
Or.....since November of 2021, Americans have spent down $1.1 trillion of personal savings, nearly 60% of their savings.

Everyone is broke.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger


But Slow Joe's inflation blah-blah-blah act will begin turning matters around in five weeks ... just ask him.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at November 26, 2022 11:50 AM (pNxlR)

117 In "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds", originally published in 1841, Charles Mackay had a marvelous chapter on the Crusades. (Still one of the best overall explanations I've ever read) In that chapter he wrote "If all the pieces of the True Cross were brought back together, they could reforest the mountains of Lebanon!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2022 11:48 AM (r46W7)

Maybe the cross was like the loaves of bread and basket of fish.

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 11:50 AM (nBhwo)

118 Jews are far from the only group carrying on about CRT and anti- Western bullshit.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 11:50 AM (Zzbjj)

119 Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 11:37 AM (NWBBy)

Good on you! And I pray someone comes alongside you to give you fellowship, too.

Posted by: GWB at November 26, 2022 11:50 AM (u0q5Q)

120 Wow. The whole Joooo thing kind of came out of nowhere.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 26, 2022 11:45 AM (Qzn2/)


You have to admit, with them owning all of the media, and banks and the Davos thing, and don't forget the Rothschilds, it is no wonder they took away this poor man's culture.

Posted by: runner at November 26, 2022 11:51 AM (V13WU)

121 "Jews are far from the only group carrying on about CRT and anti- Western bullshit."

Really? You sure?

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 11:51 AM (S/NWs)

122 > CNN Security Analyst Argues for Denying Firearms to Young Men
___________

Juliette Kayyem

She's what you'd expect to have this dribble out of her mouth.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 26, 2022 11:51 AM (Q4IgG)

123 England World Cup Fans Cautioned Not to Wear “Crusader” Garb that Might “‘Offend Muslims”

.....

But let's all wear our rainbow sodomy gear, even if it offends them.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 11:51 AM (Ll5Vg)

124 So Bette Midler. Midler? That's an indigenous people's name if I'm not mistaken. Iroquois maybe?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2022 11:51 AM (ykeLU)

125 98 No more dicking around!

CNN Security Analyst Argues for Denying Firearms to Young Men
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:43 AM (FVME7)

Why doesn't he just come out and say openly what he's thinking - he wants to deny guns to all young BLACK men.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2022 11:51 AM (r46W7)

126 I think it's wonderful that your neighbor brought you TG dinner, KT, and kind of you to share that they did.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 11:51 AM (io/eI)

127 Thank you GWB.
I fear I had long forgotten the WHY part of what I was doing 30 ish years ago.

Posted by: Reforger at November 26, 2022 11:51 AM (X6nuc)

128 The women in my life look at me as a eunuch servant who is inept in every possible way and needs constant hectoring because I apparently thrive on being berated. Posted by: Reuben Hick

Sounds to me like those gals need to be spanked until they know who the fuck daddy is.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 11:45 AM (Wy1BU)

It's hard to unravel this sort of thing for me. Seems there are lots of broken people walking around with their wounds open. Women who treat men like dirt are one type. Men who let women treat them like dirt are another.

For all of us, the best we can do is be who we are, and the person who wants to treat us a certain way because of it, we don't need them in our lives. But then, giving up and not ever letting one's self get close to anyone isn't the answer either.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 11:51 AM (NWBBy)

129 Jews are far from the only group carrying on about CRT and anti- Western bullshit.
Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 11:50 AM (Zzbjj)

wtf are you even explaining ? dumb cannot be be undumb with logic

Posted by: runner at November 26, 2022 11:51 AM (V13WU)

130 121 "Jews are far from the only group carrying on about CRT and anti- Western bullshit."

Really? You sure?
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 11:51 AM (S/NWs)

Can I interest you in some of the AFT's literature?

Posted by: Randi Weingarten at November 26, 2022 11:52 AM (r46W7)

131 I suspect most people are shopping on line these days.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 26, 2022 11:27 AM (uNylN)

There were quite a few people in Best Buy here. Enough to clog the parking lot (that includes a bunch of other stores, including a new Hobby Lobby). But there was a register with no one in line for it, so that's saying something.

Everyone is broke.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 11:40 AM (Ll5Vg)

I think this is also true to some extent. (Though it might be from buying guns and ammo all year, too.)

Posted by: GWB at November 26, 2022 11:53 AM (u0q5Q)

132 Online shopping is powerful ....

Posted by: runner at November 26, 2022 11:53 AM (V13WU)

133 Sounds to me like those gals need to be spanked until they know who the fuck daddy is.

One is mother, other spouse.

I have to live under "Honor thy father and mother" plus whatever marriage vows I made before God and man.

It is a constant, never ending graduate level course in Humility. But I found The Hoard, work and some long time friends and some new ETX friends great therapy and distraction.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 11:54 AM (3hSHB)

134 Speaking of the Demonic Miss M . . .

Elon Musk Warns About "Woke Mind Virus" Entertainment Triggering Civilizational Suicide

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:54 AM (FVME7)

135 Maybe the cross was like the loaves of bread and basket of fish.
Posted by: polynikes

*******

There's plenty to go around. Enough for everyone you could say.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2022 11:54 AM (ykeLU)

136 It's dumb to note that the same people constantly screeching antisemitism are the ones who are crowing about the end of white men and calling anyone who opposes them a white supremacist. Must be another of those "conspiracy theories" I keep hearing about.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 11:54 AM (S/NWs)

137 then promptly went back home.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 11:17 AM (NWBBy)

Heh. They *are* Germans, after all.

Posted by: GWB at November 26, 2022 11:54 AM (u0q5Q)

138 Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 11:54 AM (S/NWs)

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Maybe you should drop it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 26, 2022 11:55 AM (Qzn2/)

139 Being Good to the Earth Thier suggestions are stupid and the typical stuff we get from the Eco-Freaks

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at November 26, 2022 11:55 AM (FLiOE)

140 68 - Reuben… you could have been describing me as you described yourself (hectoring wife etc)! Though you were able to put it words much better than I could have

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 26, 2022 11:55 AM (+98Vn)

141 I'd be safe and warm
If I was in Bermudaaaa

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 26, 2022 11:55 AM (xhxe8)

142 there is always going to be some flawed personage blaming xhes own failures on the jews; imperfect world

Posted by: runner at November 26, 2022 11:56 AM (V13WU)

143 So Bette Midler. Midler? That's an indigenous people's name if I'm not mistaken. Iroquois maybe?

She's native Hawaiian, from the old "Territory of Hawaii".

Posted by: t-bird at November 26, 2022 11:56 AM (dNNCD)

144 So Montreal is now Montréal? Great.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2022 11:24 AM (MoZTd)

Not with *my* keyboard, it isn't.

Posted by: GWB at November 26, 2022 11:57 AM (u0q5Q)

145 Really? You sure?
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 11:51 AM (S/NWs)

Yeah. Ibram Kendi, not a Jew. Robin DiAngelo, not a Jew. Pope Francis, not a Jew. Nancy Pelosi, not a Jew. The writers of most of the CRT crap on Amazon, not Jews. Yes, there are Jews among them, but to say they are all Jews can be easily refuted.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 11:57 AM (Zzbjj)

146 I continue to work from the assumption the CIA was infiltrated from the start, and the entire org was essentially the corrupt, un-American protector of the elites all along.

Pretty much every operation they got their hands on, went badly for the American people. Assuming of course, one believes murdering Presidents, Presidential candidates, and Civil Rights leaders is not a good thing.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 11:25 AM (NWBBy)

I agree with you - creating the CIA and refusing to allow accountable agencies to deal with the issues was one of the greatest mistakes this country ever made.

Posted by: Randi Weingarten at November 26, 2022 11:57 AM (r46W7)

147 off bad sock!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2022 11:57 AM (r46W7)

148 "Maybe you should drop it."

Or maybe we could stop pretending it's not happening.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 11:57 AM (S/NWs)

149 32 Online shopping is powerful ....


I don't deny it's definitely a contributing factor.

But there is lots of data indicating this will recessionary Christmas.

I'd wager my left nut (which is the bigger one) that this Christmas season is relatively slower.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 11:58 AM (Ll5Vg)

150 FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 11:51 AM

It wasn't me. It was someone on Reddit.

We had baby back ribs.

Posted by: KT at November 26, 2022 11:58 AM (rrtZS)

151 "but to say they are all Jews can be easily refuted."

I never said they were all Jews. I said I would worry more about anti-semtism if so many Jews weren't on television openly being racist against whites with no repercussion.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 11:59 AM (S/NWs)

152 Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 11:37 AM (NWBBy)

Good on you! And I pray someone comes alongside you to give you fellowship, too.
Posted by: GWB at November 26, 2022 11:50 AM (u0q5Q)

We moved to this town in late 2019, settled in for the winter... and then Covid hit.

It felt to me like I never really got acclimated to this place, and I'm determined to be more open to the new location and its inhabitants. It's going to take some effort to get out of the rut, but it helps that the one person I let thoroughly into my life here turned out to be a selfish, constantly suffering narcissist. Really. I'm going to practice not getting sucked into anyone else's drama, while being kind. It can be done.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 11:59 AM (NWBBy)

153 It's not just women berating men, or men berating women. Society writ large has become bitter, belligerent and dangerously aggressive towards each other.

What used to end with a middle finger flip off is about to get resolved at the barrel of a gun.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 26, 2022 11:59 AM (Q4IgG)

154 are you fucking kidding me ????

plastic plates ??

Posted by: REDACTED at November 26, 2022 11:59 AM (us2H3)

155 @ Bitter Clinger, I don't disagree. I do think having a month long Black Friday contributed to slower traffic on the actual Black Friday.

Posted by: runner at November 26, 2022 12:00 PM (V13WU)

156 Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 11:54 AM (S/NWs)

God has been angry at his chosen people many times also but he will never abandon those who have not abandoned him . You might want to put away that big brush you have. Especially for respect for aos members.

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 12:00 PM (nBhwo)

157 It's hard to unravel this sort of thing for me. Seems there are lots of broken people walking around with their wounds open. Women who treat men like dirt are one type. Men who let women treat them like dirt are another.

My mother is evil and a narcissist driving my father into the grave and alienating all of my siblings. I am the sole survivor. I'm also the one underwriting her care at a assisted living facility near here because no one will clean her damned cat's litter box. Seriously. I can purchase all kinds of help since I work a demanding job and keep other clients happy to be able to afford everyone's lifestyle who depend on me. What I can't get is someone to empty the litter box. So I piss away a minimum of six hours of my life a week driving to the place three times a week to empty a litter box and do all the menial tasks that the staff won't do. (my mother is otherwise healthy but can't walk or get herself into a wheel chair).

And I am still called a "bad son" by her and the AL staff. I have even had people threaten to report me for Elder Abuse because I wouldn't quit my job and serve her full time.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 12:00 PM (3hSHB)

158 Or maybe we could stop pretending it's not happening.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 11:57 AM (S/NWs)


I myself get angry at all the CRT types, but as a Jewish woman, I try my best not to slam Pope Francis, or any of the Christians spouting this nonsense. And when I do, I am sure as hell, not going to blame their bullshit on their religion or ethnicity, or assume everyone who shares that race or ethnicity feels the same way.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 12:01 PM (Zzbjj)

159 CNN Security Analyst Argues for Denying Firearms to Young Men

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:43 AM


Yet they desperately want 16 year olds to be able to vote but let them stay on their parents health insurance until they are 26. Consistency is not strong with democrats.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 26, 2022 12:01 PM (uNylN)

160 Never discuss the Current Thing. It's always a trap.

I'm reminded of the Serbian war. Not as big of a thing then, but proponents argued the Serbs were especially evil and if you didn't support going Dresden on them you were literally enabling another Holocaust.

There were no discussion about American interests, and if you pointed out any other conflict in the world that might merit more American attention you were, again, literally a NAZI.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 26, 2022 12:02 PM (ESjRY)

161 154 are you fucking kidding me ????

plastic plates ??

Posted by: REDACTED at November 26, 2022 11:59 AM (us2H3)

......

Luxury.

We were so poor when I grew up, we just ate thanksgiving supper off of the dumpster lid and drank from our shoes.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 12:03 PM (Ll5Vg)

162 Posted by: KT at November 26, 2022 11:58 AM (rrtZS)

Sorry for the misreading.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 12:03 PM (vH/6k)

163 Posted by: 18-1 at November 26, 2022 12:02 PM (ESjRY)

I remember that well since I was not especially on the side of the conventional wisdom.

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 12:04 PM (nBhwo)

164 "God has been angry at his chosen people many times also but he will never abandon those who have not abandoned him . You might want to put away that big brush you have."

Not really relevant to the discussion. My statements weren't big brush, it was a specific context and accurate. Where's the ADL and other Jewish groups decrying the anti-white racism?

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:04 PM (S/NWs)

165 I never said they were all Jews. I said I would worry more about anti-semtism if so many Jews weren't on television openly being racist against whites with no repercussion.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 11:59 AM (S/NWs)

In my view, I worry MORE about anti-semitism due to assholes like Bette shooting off her mouth, or Garland's kid selling this crap. If hating Bette's comments makes you hate or blame me and my family, or JJ and his family, you need to reexamine your emotional response.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 12:04 PM (Zzbjj)

166 It's not just women berating men, or men berating women. Society writ large has become bitter, belligerent and dangerously aggressive towards each other.

What used to end with a middle finger flip off is about to get resolved at the barrel of a gun.


I guess that was sort of my point. I am ironically grateful for the shit people in my life who have conditioned me to be able to live in a society that has transformed itself into a hostile, nihilistic, self-serving, ungrateful, perverted and low trust society.

Battle scars have made me a pachyderm.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 12:04 PM (3hSHB)

167 We were so poor when I grew up, we just ate thanksgiving supper off of the dumpster lid and drank from our shoes.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 12:03 PM (Ll5Vg)

fancy shoes and all !!

Posted by: REDACTED at November 26, 2022 12:05 PM (us2H3)

168 they desperately want 16 year olds to be able to vote

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New Zealand’s Supreme Court rules that not letting 16-year olds vote is a human rights violation.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 12:06 PM (FVME7)

169 One is mother, other spouse.

I have to live under "Honor thy father and mother" plus whatever marriage vows I made before God and man.

It is a constant, never ending graduate level course in Humility. But I found The Hoard, work and some long time friends and some new ETX friends great therapy and distraction.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 11:54 AM (3hSHB)

People make choices all the time. Humility isn't about being subservient to others, it's about being honest with one's self about who we are, and what is required of us. To act with integrity is to say no when the word needs to be said.

The risk is when the other person is unwilling to consider your right to your own choices. Honoring your mother or your wedding vows does NOT require you to be their punching bag.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 12:06 PM (NWBBy)

170 Just watched a video documentary of two Welsh soccer fans who were hounded by the Qatari state police for wearing soccer apparel featuring the national team's logo . They went on the run and were chased across the desert and there was a final confrontation (no SPOILERS)

The video was titled The Outlawed Jersey: Wales

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2022 12:07 PM (ykeLU)

171 "In my view, I worry MORE about anti-semitism due to assholes like Bette shooting off her mouth, or Garland's kid selling this crap. If hating Bette's comments makes you hate or blame me and my family, or JJ and his family, you need to reexamine your emotional response."

When did I say anything about you or JJ or others?

I said I would worry about it more if the people telling me it's a problem weren't so openly racist. There is nearly zero push back from Jews on this behavior. It continues unabated. Why?

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:07 PM (S/NWs)

172 Luxury.

We were so poor when I grew up, we just ate thanksgiving supper off of the dumpster lid and drank from our shoes.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 12:03 PM (Ll5Vg)

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As a kid I remember walking through those snooty neighborhoods where the dumpsters all had lids.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 26, 2022 12:07 PM (Qzn2/)

173 It was also one of the reasons I joined the military - to defend against the enemy that was worldwide communism. And here one of their fortresses had fallen!

Posted by: GWB at November 26, 2022 11:40 AM (u0q5Q)

I was also on alert the day the elder Bush stood down the nukes (to a lesser alert level). And promptly went back on a different alert (as we were the only crew without a sick/hurt member).

Posted by: GWB at November 26, 2022 12:07 PM (u0q5Q)

174 Back on tablet and see all I missed, KT that was so thoughtful of neighbor

Posted by: Skip at November 26, 2022 12:07 PM (xhxe8)

175 What used to end with a middle finger flip off is about to get resolved at the barrel of a gun.

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Speaking of which, I guess they're making a Fallout TV series.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 12:08 PM (FVME7)

176 Reuban Hick

Ephesians 5:21-33 ESV
Submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ. Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands. Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, ..

Your wife needs guidance.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 12:08 PM (Wy1BU)

177 Really. I'm going to practice not getting sucked into anyone else's drama, while being kind. It can be done.

It can be done!

You must look beyond the person and find that which is transcendent. Being of faith makes this easier. I really don't know how to counsel those who see life as an accident of the cosmos.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 12:08 PM (3hSHB)

178 The risk is when the other person is unwilling to consider your right to your own choices. Honoring your mother or your wedding vows does NOT require you to be their punching bag.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Thank you for this.

Reuben, thank you for sharing your story.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 12:08 PM (eBD6b)

179 When you achieve a notable accomplishment in life, maintain a sense of proportion and don't let your head swell up.

It's not the feat, it's the humility!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2022 12:09 PM (ykeLU)

180 Not really relevant to the discussion. My statements weren't big brush, it was a specific context and accurate. Where's the ADL and other Jewish groups decrying the anti-white racism?
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:04 PM (S/NWs)

You're being obtuse now. It's not the religion . Most of the people you rail against are secular Jews and you lump that in with all Jews. Do Catholics now . Because I don't think Nancy Pelosi or Biden are Jewish.

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 12:09 PM (nBhwo)

181 We had to hang around the neighbor's yard light and catch lizards and bats to eat.

Posted by: Eromero at November 26, 2022 12:09 PM (4svuj)

182 Reuben- I'm out and about running errands while wife has her asshole mom over for her birthday. Same situation you have. I don't even want to be around her.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 26, 2022 12:09 PM (vCY3B)

183 Where's the ADL and other Jewish groups decrying the anti-white racism?
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:04 PM (S/NWs)

Sadly, the ADL is now a leftist cult. I do not deny this, but the idea that all or most Jews support that cult or "deserve" attacks because of them is also wrong.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 12:10 PM (Zzbjj)

184 It was also one of the reasons I joined the military - to defend against the enemy that was worldwide communism.


==


and the reason for trying to destroy Russian today is ....a mystery

Posted by: runner at November 26, 2022 12:10 PM (V13WU)

185 It's not the feat, it's the humility!
Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2022 12:09 PM (ykeLU)

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*snort*

I love me some meteorological puns.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 26, 2022 12:10 PM (Qzn2/)

186 The Kennedys, the Clintons, the Obama's, Bezos, Gates and a million other elite leftists ain't Jewish. Cherry picking those who are shows a lot about the cherry pickers and misses the big picture

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 26, 2022 12:10 PM (87Ur0)

187 You must look beyond the person and find that which is transcendent. Being of faith makes this easier. I really don't know how to counsel those who see life as an accident of the cosmos.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 12:08 PM (3hSHB)


Obligatory, the World's Best Pickup Scene:

"Allan: That's quite a lovely Jackson Pollock, isn't it?
Museum Girl: Yes, it is.
Allan: What does it say to you?
Museum Girl: It restates the negativeness of the universe. The hideous lonely emptiness of existence. Nothingness. The predicament of Man forced to live in a barren, Godless eternity like a tiny flame flickering in an immense void with nothing but waste, horror and degradation, forming a useless bleak straitjacket in a black absurd cosmos.
Allan: What are you doing Saturday night?
Museum Girl: Committing suicide.
Allan: What about Friday night?"

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, what just had more yummy turkey at November 26, 2022 12:11 PM (PiwSw)

188 I said I would worry about it more if the people telling me it's a problem weren't so openly racist. There is nearly zero push back from Jews on this behavior. It continues unabated. Why?
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:07 PM (S/NWs)

Well one of our COBs, I don't recall if it was CBD or JJ, went after the ADL this week in a major post. Jews on Twitter do it all the time as do some pundits. I think the fact that they are not publicized has more to do with donk media control than the idea that we do not exist.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 12:12 PM (Zzbjj)

189 187 one of funniest lines ever.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 26, 2022 12:13 PM (87Ur0)

190 Your wife needs guidance.

House/Water

I know this guy who was an Olympic skiing competitor who was a leading ski instructor and considered one of the best available.

But his girlfriend at the time would fight him when she wanted to learn to ski so much that he worked out a deal where a friend would teach her - and she readily learned to ski.

There is some weird human dynamic where the closer we are to certain people, the more savage we get to each other. That is why I think that the success comes in focusing on the transcendent rather than the up-front-close-and-personal.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 12:13 PM (3hSHB)

191 David Horowitz I had been a huge voice .

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 12:13 PM (nBhwo)

192 Did you survive Black Friday without injury?

Best way to avoid carnage is to not be on the front lines...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 12:13 PM (ynpvh)

193 You are literally the only one making this a religious thing. If you are a Jew who has accepted Jesus Christ, you are in the church first. If not, then good luck.

None of that has any relevance to what I said. Unless you're also pushing the anti-white rhetoric.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:14 PM (S/NWs)

194 and the reason for trying to destroy Russian today is ....a mystery
Posted by: runner at November 26, 2022 12:10 PM (V13WU)

There are different groups operating that have different reasons for destroying Russia
For some it's technocrats who still have a Cold War mentality For others , it's the fact that Putin is anti-gay and pro-family--and he won't play along with Climate Change.
Then there are the Ukranianophiles who like the graft and laundering, and there are others who are pro-China, and therefore, anti-Russian.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 26, 2022 12:15 PM (mR6Gs)

195 "but the idea that all or most Jews support that cult or "deserve" attacks because of them is also wrong."

I didn't say support. I said where is the push back? Where are the Jewish groups calling for an end to open racism?

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:15 PM (S/NWs)

196 Enjoy your slap fight folks. I'll leave you to it.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2022 12:16 PM (ykeLU)

197 193 Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:14 PM (S/NWs)

Interesting take, given Jesus was a Jew and the bible talks about gentiles being grafted onto the tree. A good read is Dr. Bacchiocchi's "From Sabbath to Sunday", reseached and written at the Pontifical University at the Vatican. I happen to have a signed copy I got off of Amazon...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 12:17 PM (ynpvh)

198 Posted by: JoeF. at November 26, 2022 12:15 PM (mR6Gs)


yeah, for the most part

Posted by: runner at November 26, 2022 12:18 PM (V13WU)

199 Joy Behar is the shart that I misjudged. Maybe it was all of the holiday weekend pork products.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 26, 2022 12:18 PM (geVLo)

200
I didn't say support. I said where is the push back? Where are the Jewish groups calling for an end to open racism?
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:15 PM (S/NWs

Largely being squashed by the dems, I would think.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 12:18 PM (Zzbjj)

201 and if you pointed out any other conflict in the world that might merit more American attention you were, again, literally a NAZI.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 26, 2022 12:02 PM (ESjRY)

Also if you pointed out that the Serbs in Bosnia were being somewhat put upon by the muslim portion of the population. (Or how the muslims that were being "oppressed" in Kosovo weren't *from there* - they were illegal aliens from Albania.)

Posted by: GWB at November 26, 2022 12:18 PM (u0q5Q)

202 We were so poor when I grew up, we just ate thanksgiving supper off of the dumpster lid and drank from our shoes.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 12:03 PM (Ll5Vg)

You had shoes? Pfft! We had to drink directly from the potholes!

Posted by: GWB at November 26, 2022 12:19 PM (u0q5Q)

203 Squid hunt didn't say or mean anything we have commented on. It's our ignorance that we can't understand his point.

Be better polynikes !!

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 12:20 PM (nBhwo)

204 >>> Well one of our COBs, I don't recall if it was CBD or JJ, went after the ADL this week in a major post. Jews on Twitter do it all the time as do some pundits. I think the fact that they are not publicized has more to do with donk media control than the idea that we do not exist.
Posted by: CN
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The ADL is mainstreamed, if the media wants a quote it goes to the ADL. There is no coordinated conservative Jewish voice to counter them.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 12:20 PM (ZS+GP)

205 Posted by: JoeF. at November 26, 2022 12:15 PM (mR6Gs)



BRICS+.

Russia and China have gotten healthy off of western wealth.

We shall see if they are big enough to go off on their own, I suspect they are unless the west wants to impose complete economic sanctions on China as well.

They have the natural resources, agriculture industry and manufacturing to make the break. It's questionable whether we do, at least in regards to manufacturing.

Europe certainly doesn't.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 12:20 PM (Ll5Vg)

206 "Interesting take, given Jesus was a Jew and the bible talks about gentiles being grafted onto the tree. A good read is Dr. Bacchiocchi's "From Sabbath to Sunday"

Stop arguing things I haven't said. Jesus Christ was the Jews messiah. That's not really a shock. However, the Jews who accepted Christ ceased to be Jews and began to be this new thing, the church. Paul and Peter lived as Gentiles according to Galatians. However, to reject Christ, the messiah, God manifest in the flesh, is to reject God's will and salvation. I'm not saying that won't change. But there's a lot of pain between here and wholesale salvation for the Jews. It's much easier to accept Christ now than to wait and hope you make it through.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:20 PM (S/NWs)

207 So Bette Midler. Midler? That's an indigenous people's name if I'm not mistaken. Iroquois maybe?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2022 11:51 AM


Fugawi.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2022 12:21 PM (Wnv9h)

208 "Squid hunt didn't say or mean anything we have commented on. It's our ignorance that we can't understand his point. "

Or you could stop putting words in my mouth and respond to what I actually said.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:21 PM (S/NWs)

209 Jim Harbaugh can eabod and choke on the biggest one.

Go Buckeyes!

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 12:21 PM (U2p+3)

210 202 We were so poor when I grew up, we just ate thanksgiving supper off of the dumpster lid and drank from our shoes.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 12:03 PM (Ll5Vg)

You had shoes? Pfft! We had to drink directly from the potholes!

Posted by: GWB at November 26, 2022 12:19 PM (u0q5Q)

You had roads?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 12:21 PM (ynpvh)

211 Reuben- I'm out and about running errands while wife has her asshole mom over for her birthday. Same situation you have. I don't even want to be around her.

I've been hanging around AoSHQ for some years here and there are a lot of guys who observe/experience the same thing. So much so, I don't feel sorry for myself but take some sort of pride in recognizing I'm a part of a much larger fraternity.

Its like whining about taxes or crappy bosses. Why? We are not alone in paying taxes or having bad people around us. Its life. It builds character.

A decade ago I bought this Japanese hand cranked coffee bean grinder. When I was up and grinding my first dose of coffee, I would spend that time cranking away thinking that there were many other people out there at the same time doing the same thing. Sort of a weird Zen to it, a invisible camaraderie. It got me centered and ready to conquer the day.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 12:21 PM (3hSHB)

212 204 >>> Well one of our COBs, I don't recall if it was CBD or JJ, went after the ADL this week in a major post. Jews on Twitter do it all the time as do some pundits. I think the fact that they are not publicized has more to do with donk media control than the idea that we do not exist.
Posted by: CN
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The ADL is mainstreamed, if the media wants a quote it goes to the ADL. There is no coordinated conservative Jewish voice to counter them.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 12:20 PM (ZS+GP)

The ADL was bitching about someting that was a purely DEM talking point and had nothing to do with defamation against the Jews or anyone else, except conservatives.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 12:23 PM (ynpvh)

213 SOURCE: The ONLY purpose of Twitter's office in Atlanta was to meet #DEI hiring goals. California Twitter executives didn't expect ANYTHING from the outpost other than meeting diversity recruiting goals.

http://bit.ly/3Vvzv5A

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 26, 2022 12:23 PM (Do5/p)

214 So the FTX thing got even wierder. For some reason, they took over 11 million dollars and stuck it into a tiny bank in a town with like 100 people in Washington State on the border of Idaho. That's more than double the bank's previous holdings. Why?

https://tinyurl.com/yckmam66

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 26, 2022 12:23 PM (cP/Ah)

215 Hubbymayhem and I watched The Running Man the other night. Very dated and the dialogue was pretty corny. But the script at the beginning of the movie and the premise of a police state due to economic collapse, populace controlled with help of state media was a little too close for comfort. Movie is set in 2017 and I could see it only being off by a few years.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 12:25 PM (Wy1BU)

216 and the reason for trying to destroy Russian today is ....a mystery
Posted by: runner at November 26, 2022 12:10 PM (V13WU)

Not something I'm up for. But fighting communism still is. That's a home front issue now.

Posted by: GWB at November 26, 2022 12:26 PM (u0q5Q)

217 "There is no coordinated conservative Jewish voice to counter them. "

That's my point. I'm supposed to expend energy and resources defending Jews from every black and muslim and white supremacist who attacks them, but there is no organized support going the other way. It's not even a thought.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:26 PM (S/NWs)

218 We'll never get the truth about FTX.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 26, 2022 12:26 PM (vCY3B)

219 The women in my life look at me as a eunuch servant who is inept in every possible way and needs constant hectoring because I apparently thrive on being berated. Posted by: Reuben Hick

Sounds to me like those gals need to be spanked until they know who the fuck daddy is.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 11:45 AM (Wy1BU)

Absolutely! *hands Reuben Hick a paddle*

Posted by: McClintock! at November 26, 2022 12:27 PM (4I/2K)

220 26 The Devine Demonic Miss M!

Bette Midler Trashes Thanksgiving, Calls Pilgrims “Undocumented Aliens from Europe”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 11:24 AM (FVME7)

^^Does the Left ever think? By their own point, Native Americans welcomed illegal aliens and look what happened to their culture???

Posted by: Iris at November 26, 2022 12:27 PM (foa6+)

221 Go Buckeyes!

+1000

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 12:28 PM (Xrfse)

222 The Kennedys, the Clintons, the Obama's, Bezos, Gates and a million other elite leftists ain't Jewish. Cherry picking those who are shows a lot about the cherry pickers and misses the big picture
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 26, 2022 12:10 PM (87Ur0)

No but they all fear the majority population, as do many Jews. There is a reason why some of the most vociferous and violently anti-Trump people in politics happen to be Jewish--Schiff, Raskin, Nadler, Cohen, Sherman.
Of course, it's not universal--Cheney is not Jewish. But it's hard not for people to notice this.

Then look at all the hate spewed by Rob Reiner and Bette Midler on Twitter.
Most of these people are secular, perhaps even atheist. But people see this and it reinforces the idea that Jews hate--and/or fear-- the majority.

Now here's the thing, these people aren't shilling for Jews so much ( many are openly hostile to Israel) as they are shilling for LIBERALISM.
That's the "tribe" they really belong to.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 26, 2022 12:28 PM (mR6Gs)

223 The risk is when the other person is unwilling to consider your right to your own choices. Honoring your mother or your wedding vows does NOT require you to be their punching bag.

Understood and fully agree. There is a point where there is enabling, another where there is a self-defeating sickness in seeing oneself as a martyr.

As an engineer, I now default to systems analysis. Drop the emotional aspects of it and calculate the practical benefits/loss. As you said: learn to say "No". Understand when the goal of these people is to manipulate for the sake of manipulating and exerting some perverse desire to subjugate.

Fortunately it is not hard for me to suddenly remember another appointment or responsibility that takes precedent. There is a permanent gaping gulf between the way it ought to be and the way it is going to be.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 12:30 PM (3hSHB)

224
The ADL is mainstreamed, if the media wants a quote it goes to the ADL. There is no coordinated conservative Jewish voice to counter them.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 12:20 PM (ZS+GP)

I would call David Horowitz and Daniel Greenblatt and Mark Levin, for that matter, as "coordinated", but I don't think they'll get the air time that the leftists do.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 12:30 PM (Zzbjj)

225 California Twitter executives didn't expect ANYTHING from the outpost other than meeting diversity recruiting goals.

There is so much so wrong with the left, its like peeling an onion back. Your eyes are watering, it smells like sulphur and you still keep finding new layers every time you think you've seen it all.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 26, 2022 12:31 PM (cP/Ah)

226 Since I missed yesterday's thread, I was in college when the Berlin Wall fell. I woke up to the news on my alarm clock/radio. It was particularly exciting because I was leaving for Berlin in December on a college study trip. It was an indescribable experience, touching the Berlin Wall, and seeing people coming through from the East.

Posted by: Gibson Girl at November 26, 2022 12:31 PM (KXY4V)

227 ^^Does the Left ever think? By their own point, Native Americans welcomed illegal aliens and look what happened to their culture???
Posted by: Iris at November 26, 2022 12:27 PM (foa6+)
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Let's face it, that tweet is so full of dumb it could double as a master course in stupidity.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at November 26, 2022 12:32 PM (5pTK/)

228 216 and the reason for trying to destroy Russian today is ....a mystery
Posted by: runner
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Russia is Russia. It's new face isn't thick men with black hair and big bushy eyebrows but it's still Russia. Subjugating us has been Russia's goal since the '20's and it still is.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 12:32 PM (ZS+GP)

229 Dave Chappelle says that the current thing is still, "The ... ."

Posted by: Marooned at November 26, 2022 12:32 PM (w6hJ9)

230 Hubbymayhem and I watched The Running Man the other night. Very dated and the dialogue was pretty corny. But the script at the beginning of the movie and the premise of a police state due to economic collapse, populace controlled with help of state media was a little too close for comfort.

That is a book that deserves being remade. Its really dated and kind of silly but has at its core a pretty powerful sci fi message.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 26, 2022 12:33 PM (cP/Ah)

231 Dave Chappelle was wrong. The current thing is TITZ!

Posted by: Marooned at November 26, 2022 12:34 PM (w6hJ9)

232 I didn't post yesterday about where I was when the Berlin Wall fell because I don't exactly remember. I was in the USAF, stationed in Nebraska. I figure I was probably working. I do recall an observation I had with a co worker. Don't recall the exact quote or who said it but history abhors a vacuum I told him. I assumed someone else would fill in the USSR spot as the baddie against the west. That didn't quite happen. The west is more of a threat to itself with the rejection of its history, culture, and morals.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 26, 2022 12:34 PM (Hudry)

233 206 However, the Jews who accepted Christ ceased to be Jews and began to be this new thing, the church. Paul and Peter lived as Gentiles according to Galatians. However, to reject Christ, the messiah, God manifest in the flesh, is to reject God's will and salvation. I'm not saying that won't change. But there's a lot of pain between here and wholesale salvation for the Jews. It's much easier to accept Christ now than to wait and hope you make it through.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:20 PM (S/NWs)

Some things I agree with, others I do not. There was a huge controversy in the early church regarding whether Gentiles had to be circumcized or not. In the end, Gentiles were explicitly told to abstain from meats offered to idols, blood, things strangled and fornication. The vision that Peter had regarding unclean animals was with regards to Gentiles that were coming (Acts 10:24-29). Peter was an observant Jew, and even in the vision, he refused to eat the unclean foods, not understanding the vision's true meaning.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 12:35 PM (ynpvh)

234 >>>We were so poor when I grew up, we just ate thanksgiving supper off of the dumpster lid and drank from our shoes.

Supper? We had chicken wings and a squash.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 26, 2022 12:35 PM (geVLo)

235 218 We'll never get the truth about FTX.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 26, 2022 12:26 PM (vCY3B)

We know enough to know that will be the result.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 12:36 PM (ynpvh)

236 Reuban Hick

Ephesians 5:21-33 ESV
Submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ. Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands. Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, ..

Your wife needs guidance.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 12:08 PM (Wy1BU)

And earlier, in Genesis 3:16 NIV:
To the woman he said,
“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”

Posted by: Count de Monet, armchair theologian at November 26, 2022 12:36 PM (4I/2K)

237 Understood and fully agree. There is a point where there is enabling, another where there is a self-defeating sickness in seeing oneself as a martyr.

As an engineer, I now default to systems analysis. Drop the emotional aspects of it and calculate the practical benefits/loss. As you said: learn to say "No". Understand when the goal of these people is to manipulate for the sake of manipulating and exerting some perverse desire to subjugate.

Fortunately it is not hard for me to suddenly remember another appointment or responsibility that takes precedent. There is a permanent gaping gulf between the way it ought to be and the way it is going to be.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 12:30 PM (3hSHB)

I understand what you are saying. For me now, the challenge is recognizing I did what I needed to do, for my own sanity, and the brief "marriage" came to a screeching halt when my bride recognized I was not going to be manipulated.

In a way I'm thankful that she didn't try to hang on longer. As painful as it has been for me to get on with life without her, it would have been worse in the long run, had she not understood I wasn't going to be her punching bag.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 12:37 PM (XfBY/)

238 The Kennedys, the Clintons, the Obama's, Bezos, Gates and a million other elite leftists ain't Jewish. Cherry picking those who are shows a lot about the cherry pickers and misses the big picture

It doesn't help though when you have the ADL and ACLU, among others that are clearly ethnically based and hostile to Western Civilization.

That said, to some degree one can't discount the background influence that gives divine permission as "a Chosen People" to show other people the way.

Gates and other prominent wealthy types suffer from the Caesar Complex where they need to have someone constantly whisper in their ear that they are not gods. Decades of being in a position where thousands stand when you enter the room, and nearly everyone you meet sucks up to win some sort of favor - all of that has to lead to some unguided God Complex where wealth, education or political power convinces a person that they are more equal than everyone around them and are anointed by the Cosmos to rule over the Lessers.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 12:38 PM (3hSHB)

239 >>> I would call David Horowitz and Daniel Greenblatt and Mark Levin, for that matter, as "coordinated", but I don't think they'll get the air time that the leftists do.
Posted by: CN
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Right. Wasn't saying that there are no voices but they aren't coordinated they are individuals who more or less must be sought out whereas when the media wants the "Jewish opinion" they call up the ADL. There's no Jewish group to stick a shoe in there mouth.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 12:38 PM (ZS+GP)

240 Go Buckeyes!

+1000
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 12:28 PM (Xrfse)

Beaver nuggets FTW!

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 26, 2022 12:39 PM (4I/2K)

241 Fallout trailer.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gYNajpnyZiM

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 12:40 PM (FVME7)

242 240 Go Buckeyes!

+1000
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 12:28 PM (Xrfse)

Beaver nuggets FTW!

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 26, 2022 12:39 PM (4I/2K)

Are beaver nuggets like moose droppings?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 12:40 PM (ynpvh)

243 222 point taken. Each of these individuals , atheist, Christian , Jewish or whatever are for power and control. I always look at the history of the Soviet Union in that many of the Bolsheviks were Jewish , but they gave up their Judaism for communism, and it did not end well for most of them. Lazar Kagonovich was not called "Stalin's last Jew" for no reason. But the revolution did not just eat Jews it ate pretty much everyone unless you were the most viscous, Stalin. Therefore singling out Jews misses the big picture

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 26, 2022 12:40 PM (87Ur0)

244 "The vision that Peter had regarding unclean animals was with regards to Gentiles that were coming. Peter was an observant Jew, and even in the vision, he refused to eat the unclean foods, not understanding the vision's true meaning."

Galatians 2:14  But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:40 PM (S/NWs)

245 ADL = SPLC

But that doesn't mean it's a definitive voice for the Jewish community any more than The Lincoln Project is the definitive voice for conservatives.

However, the longer the ADL continues to masquerade as such, the more your average individual begin to apply affiliation as legitimate.

People need a bad guy direct their ire towards when they are generally unhappy. Its not a good situation all around.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 12:40 PM (Ll5Vg)

246
I've been hanging around AoSHQ for some years here and there are a lot of guys who observe/experience the same thing. So much so, I don't feel sorry for myself but take some sort of pride in recognizing I'm a part of a much larger fraternity.

____________

I'm only useful insofar as I provide labor and money. Never a word of praise, never a compliment, but make one mistake and the credit balance is exhausted instantly.

I've concluded I'm only measured by my mistakes. That's what everyone thinks of me. If I never saw or spoke to anyone ever again it wouldn't be soon enough.

Posted by: Dicop at November 26, 2022 12:40 PM (Znp+p)

247 "But that doesn't mean it's a definitive voice for the Jewish community any more than The Lincoln Project is the definitive voice for conservatives."

So who is the conservative voice?

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:41 PM (S/NWs)

248 Rooting for the Buckeyes to stomp a hole in Michigan's face and make Jim Hairball cry like the petulant child he is!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 26, 2022 12:42 PM (6VKyY)

249 In a way I'm thankful that she didn't try to hang on longer. As painful as it has been for me to get on with life without her, it would have been worse in the long run, had she not understood I wasn't going to be her punching bag.

Fortunately I am not that. It would be better characterized as having a petulant teen-age step daughter in the house.

Speaking of punching bags. I have both a heavy bag and a double ended bag in the shop. Now THERE is some great therapy - especially motivating for doing the "punch a hole" drills.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 12:43 PM (3hSHB)

250
Ohio State, 7 - Michigan, 3.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2022 12:43 PM (MoZTd)

251 Speaking of which, I guess they're making a Fallout TV series.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks



Will 'The Ink Spots' be on the soundtrack?

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 26, 2022 12:43 PM (Hudry)

252 Right. Wasn't saying that there are no voices but they aren't coordinated they are individuals who more or less must be sought out whereas when the media wants the "Jewish opinion" they call up the ADL. There's no Jewish group to stick a shoe in there mouth.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 12:38 PM (ZS+GP)

There are, but they will not be invited by the media to do this. Horowitz will not be called on to counter the ADL live and on TV.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 12:43 PM (Zzbjj)

253 Model of the body from the Shroud of Turin.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJFqWCZZ23E

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at November 26, 2022 12:44 PM (FVME7)

254 Fallout could be a great sci-fi series if they take it seriously.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 26, 2022 12:44 PM (6VKyY)

255 Are beaver nuggets like moose droppings?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 12:40 PM (ynpvh)

If they are delicious caramel-coated popcorn snack, then yes.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 26, 2022 12:44 PM (4I/2K)

256 Dicop, you'd talk if we was all sitting atound with cigars and bourbon.

Posted by: Eromero at November 26, 2022 12:44 PM (4svuj)

257 I see I'm not the only one rooting against Harbaugh. Not an OSU fan but I'm hoping for humiliation of Harbaugh. I despise that brat.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 26, 2022 12:45 PM (Hudry)

258 Ohio State, 7 - Michigan, 3.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


Ohio State? The Ohio State?
The. Ohio. State??

Never heard of 'em.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2022 12:45 PM (H6Wmi)

259 >>> In a way I'm thankful that she didn't try to hang on longer. As painful as it has been for me to get on with life without her, it would have been worse in the long run, had she not understood I wasn't going to be her punching bag.
Posted by: BurtTC
-----------------------

You are a lucky man. Her honesty is the better for the both of you. She was so up front I'm surprised that there wasn't a 'tell' before y'all married.

You've got taste, you picked an honest woman.
This time go out there and pick and honest woman that loves you.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 12:45 PM (ZS+GP)

260 248 Maybe 15 years ago during the OSU/MI game, I summoned the dead. I went to HS in Warren, OH, which produced many great NFL players. Michigan had some guy from my HS, and I called for Woody Hayes to take care of the traitor like that bum from Clemson. Two plays later they carried him off the field.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 26, 2022 12:46 PM (lz5hY)

261 257 I see I'm not the only one rooting against Harbaugh. Not an OSU fan but I'm hoping for humiliation of Harbaugh. I despise that brat.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 26, 2022 12:45 PM (Hudry)

I see you're a wise, intelligent and handsome horde member. Well done.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 26, 2022 12:47 PM (6VKyY)

262 I'm only useful insofar as I provide labor and money. Never a word of praise, never a compliment, but make one mistake and the credit balance is exhausted instantly.

I've concluded I'm only measured by my mistakes. That's what everyone thinks of me. If I never saw or spoke to anyone ever again it wouldn't be soon enough.
Posted by: Dicop


Am I looking in the mirror?

Seriously, Thanks for the reminder we are passengers on the same train. It allows me to think of better things.

Also feel motivated to go build the ALPR back-end processing for our community's entrance cameras. The board has expressed to me several times how grateful they are I'm taking this project up.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 12:47 PM (3hSHB)

263 Are beaver nuggets like moose droppings?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 12:40 PM (ynpvh)

If they are delicious caramel-coated popcorn snack, then yes.
Posted by: Count de Monet


I have boxed up Buc-ee's Beaver Nuggets and Jerky and sent them to friends In Nebraska because they can't get them there. LOL.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2022 12:47 PM (H6Wmi)

264 So who is the conservative voice?

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:41 PM (S/NWs)


......

There is none. We are all individuals.

That's part of the issue. We are rapidly descending into tribalism.

I bet if I came to a MoMe, twenty people would leave thinking I'm a pretty good fella. 40 would be ambivalent. 60 would think I'm a stupid bastard.

And that's inside a community of generally like-minded thinkers. But Donald Trump would claim to be a voice for us all, as would Mark Levin, Sean Hannity or any other number of people. But they don't.

Just as we will face judgement before the Lord individually, so too should we judge each other's motives and integrity on this planet while we are living. I reject identity politics wherever I can, even when I see generally applicable patterns.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 12:48 PM (Ll5Vg)

265 I'm only useful insofar as I provide labor and money. Never a word of praise, never a compliment, but make one mistake and the credit balance is exhausted instantly.


One "oh shit" wipes out ten "attaboys".

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2022 12:48 PM (H6Wmi)

266 silly but has at its core a pretty powerful sci fi message.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

They simply could not ever top Richard Dawson as Killian.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 12:48 PM (Wy1BU)

267 Dicop, you'd talk if we was all sitting atound with cigars and bourbon.
Posted by: Eromero


The barbershop without the hair cut.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 12:48 PM (3hSHB)

268 Kids are not "cute." They are a gift from a loving God, a lot of work to train up in the way they should go, and the Future, because they show up for it

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at November 26, 2022 12:49 PM (Rbu5d)

269 bill in arkansas, I saw that game.
Eromero, S.C. native and Clemson fan

Posted by: Eromero at November 26, 2022 12:50 PM (4svuj)

270 Does the Left ever think of moving to China and join the Communists already in progress?

Posted by: Skip at November 26, 2022 12:50 PM (xhxe8)

271 Kids no longer hold up their end of the bargain to make the world better for the next generation after them.

Without that basic societal agreement, it all fails.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 26, 2022 12:51 PM (6VKyY)

272 Lazar Kagonovich was not called "Stalin's last Jew" for no reason.

Kaganovich lived almost as long as the Soviet Union itself, dying only a few months before it's dissolution in 1991

Posted by: JoeF. at November 26, 2022 12:51 PM (mR6Gs)

273 Bruce Willis RIP

Posted by: Skynet at November 26, 2022 12:52 PM (atdF6)

274 270 Does the Left ever think of moving to China and join the Communists already in progress?
Posted by: Skip at November 26, 2022 12:50 PM (xhxe

No, they proselytize and, like Kalus Schwab, see China as a role model.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 12:52 PM (Zzbjj)

275 There is none. We are all individuals.

That's part of the issue. We are rapidly descending into tribalism.

I bet if I came to a MoMe, twenty people would leave thinking I'm a pretty good fella. 40 would be ambivalent. 60 would think I'm a stupid bastard.

And that's inside a community of generally like-minded thinkers. But Donald Trump would claim to be a voice for us all, as would Mark Levin, Sean Hannity or any other number of people. But they don't.

Just as we will face judgement before the Lord individually, so too should we judge each other's motives and integrity on this planet while we are living. I reject identity politics wherever I can, even when I see generally applicable patterns.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 12:48 PM (Ll5Vg)

I'm not.
https://youtu.be/QereR0CViMY

Posted by: Count de Monet, Life of Brian at November 26, 2022 12:52 PM (4I/2K)

276 269 Woody being Woody. Nowadays banned forever, forced to live under a bridge for that stunt.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 26, 2022 12:52 PM (lz5hY)

277 In a way I'm thankful that she didn't try to hang on longer. As painful as it has been for me to get on with life without her, it would have been worse in the long run, had she not understood I wasn't going to be her punching bag.
Posted by: BurtTC
-----------------------

You are a lucky man. Her honesty is the better for the both of you. She was so up front I'm surprised that there wasn't a 'tell' before y'all married.

You've got taste, you picked an honest woman.
This time go out there and pick and honest woman that loves you.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 12:45 PM (ZS+GP)

Oh no no no! Please do not misunderstand. She the least honest person I've ever met in my life, she flounced out the door blaming me for everything... including her excuse for needing to run to the arms of another man. Lies lies lies are her oxygen. Without them, she'd have to face reality, which she'll never be capable of doing as long as she lives.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 12:53 PM (XfBY/)

278 "There is none. We are all individuals. That's part of the issue. We are rapidly descending into tribalism."

That's crap. When orthodox Jews are attacked, orthodox Jews have no problem organizing and defending each other and expecting others to rise up against the antisemtism. Where are the Jewish rabbis denouncing the left's hateful rhetoric against whites? There are none. Because orthodox Jewish groups are Jewish organizations, not conservative.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:53 PM (S/NWs)

279 I had a next-door neighbor at an apartment complex I was living at two years ago I rereferred to as the Jersey Drunk.

He was always drunk, started in the morning and went till way past my bedtime. Always talking loud to the neighbors with his really heavy Jersey accent here in S Florida. I had a few cordial conversations with him. I could have easily dismissed him as some off-the-rails-POS but I never really did. He was at heart a sad and lonely guy, just like me.

He knew I didn't have any family or friends in the area and after he left a Thanksgiving dinner at another apartment, he brought me a to-go plate much like that pictured above.

Posted by: pawn at November 26, 2022 12:54 PM (wsHtO)

280 It's rainy, wet & cold outside. Wife is in her office trying to make sales calls. She asks me what I'm doing. I tell her, same thing I did on Saturdays growing up when the weather was bad.

Watching Abbott and Costello movies on tv.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2022 12:54 PM (H6Wmi)

281 261 257 I see I'm not the only one rooting against Harbaugh. Not an OSU fan but I'm hoping for humiliation of Harbaugh. I despise that brat.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 26, 2022 12:45 PM (Hudry)

I see you're a wise, intelligent and handsome horde member. Well done.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 26, 2022 12:47 PM (6VKyY)

I've despised Harbaugh since he was at Stanford. Then as the 9ers head asshole. He's a real pos.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 12:54 PM (U2p+3)

282 That was nice of him, pawn.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 12:54 PM (VTyhy)

283 57 I see I'm not the only one rooting against Harbaugh. Not an OSU fan but I'm hoping for humiliation of Harbaugh. I despise that brat.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 26, 2022 12:45 PM (Hudry)
-------------------------------------------
I hate Harbaugh, too. Hell, both of them. The only football coach I hate more is Chip Kelly.

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 26, 2022 12:55 PM (Wa7pD)

284 244 "The vision that Peter had regarding unclean animals was with regards to Gentiles that were coming. Peter was an observant Jew, and even in the vision, he refused to eat the unclean foods, not understanding the vision's true meaning."

Galatians 2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:40 PM (S/NWs)

It was about Peter's (and some of the others) hypocricy regarding eating with the Gentiles (Galatians 2:11-13). Not the key phrase in Galatians 2:14: "why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?". The Gentiles did not have to follow the jewish traditions, but had to explicitly refrain from certain things. They didn't have to follow proscriptions on clean vs. unclean meats, or to even circumsize themselves or their children; that was a purely old-testament covenant requirement for the jews.
That's my take.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 12:55 PM (ynpvh)

285
I would spend that time cranking away thinking that there were many other people out there at the same time doing the same thing. Sort of a weird Zen to it, a invisible camaraderie. It got me centered and ready to conquer the day.
Posted by: Reuben Hick


Zen - the sound of one hand cranking.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 26, 2022 12:56 PM (63Dwl)

286 I'm only useful insofar as I provide labor and money. Never a word of praise, never a compliment, but make one mistake and the credit balance is exhausted instantly.

On the bright side for me, on the weekend we closed on the house and began occupying it, the spouse and my BiL's wife decided to commence painting of the garage in another color. They did one wall and slapped some paint on a portion of another wall then stopped - for nine months and counting.

A few weeks ago I decided to go ahead and just finish the job. While moving things out of the way and wiping down the walls, the wife comes out demands to know what I'm doing and then proceeds to predict the future in that whatever job I think I am going to do that I will do it poorly and make a mess out of things.

Yes, we are talking about the garage, not the living room or dining room, but the garage. I have six one gallon buckets of top-of-the-line interior paint, because the garage needs to be Done Right™

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 12:56 PM (3hSHB)

287 Even Harbaugh's mom didn't like him. She refused to buy him the new Barbie doll he wanted for Christmas.

True story.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 26, 2022 12:56 PM (6VKyY)

288 Was supposed to have a date today. Has been called on account of family troubles on her side.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 26, 2022 12:57 PM (4I/2K)

289 The Daily Mail has an article about women claiming that using the Pill turned them into lesbians—and that some scientists are agreeing that this could be true. I wouldn’t be at all surprised. In addition to the physical risks from the Pill, there have long been societal problems that go beyond the hook-up culture.

https://tinyurl.com/3mjvexyx

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 12:57 PM (VTyhy)

290 255 Are beaver nuggets like moose droppings?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 12:40 PM (ynpvh)

If they are delicious caramel-coated popcorn snack, then yes.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 26, 2022 12:44 PM (4I/2K)

I believe moose dropping are chocolate coated nuts or something.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 12:57 PM (ynpvh)

291 We're doing the last of the painting in our house this weekend. Bedroom, which is currently a light-sucking, soul- destroying greige. On the ceiling, too. (Prevois owner painted the WHOLE HOUSE this color, except for one bedroom, which was a light-sucking, soul-destroying green.)

We just finished the prepping, just in time for lunch and checking in at the Headquarters. Yea!

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at November 26, 2022 12:58 PM (Rbu5d)

292 @jim

This is the point of that verse I wanted to bring out.

"If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles,"

Peter and Paul were living as Gentiles.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:58 PM (S/NWs)

293 Count that's a bummer

Posted by: Skip at November 26, 2022 12:58 PM (xhxe8)

294 273 Bruce Willis RIP

Posted by: Skynet at November 26, 2022 12:52 PM (atdF6)

Is he? I can't seem to find anything confirming it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 12:59 PM (ynpvh)

295 1...Not having to shop for anyone helps with that.
Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 11:10 AM (fKYST)

👍

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at November 26, 2022 12:59 PM (Rbu5d)

296 288 Was supposed to have a date today. Has been called on account of family troubles on her side.
Posted by: Count de Monet

Family drama? Run away.
Faster.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 01:00 PM (U2p+3)

297 294 273 Bruce Willis RIP

Posted by: Skynet at November 26, 2022 12:52 PM (atdF6)

Is he? I can't seem to find anything confirming it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 12:59 PM (ynpvh


I don't think that's true. Irene Cara, yes.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 26, 2022 01:00 PM (6VKyY)

298 Heh, Flyover.

With the exception of the hubby, of course.

We exchange gifts with each other, and that's pretty much it.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 01:01 PM (VTyhy)

299 11...I don't listen or talk to the hectorers. I've cut them out of my life. Therefore, I feel no impulse to be at their throats.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2022 11:18 AM (MoZTd)

That's what we do, too.

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at November 26, 2022 01:01 PM (Rbu5d)

300 Bruce Willis RIP

Posted by: Skynet at November 26, 2022 12:52 PM (atdF6)

Is he? I can't seem to find anything confirming it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)


He's not. First hoax death report started circulating November 13th on Facebook.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2022 01:01 PM (H6Wmi)

301 BurtTC-
' I swear that womans breas was stoniest ground God ever made.'
Bear Claw

Posted by: Eromero at November 26, 2022 01:02 PM (4svuj)

302 A while back while prepping for a move, my oldest son and I were in the garage boxing stuff up. Wife, his stepmom, comes out, looks around, and goes back inside. Son says “can’t wait to hear what we did wrong.” Heh.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 26, 2022 01:02 PM (u73oe)

303 Where are the Jewish rabbis denouncing the left's hateful rhetoric against whites? There are none. Because orthodox Jewish groups are Jewish organizations, not conservative.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:53 PM (S/NW

Rubbish. They just don't get a pulpit for this. Mark Levin, Daniel Greenfield, David Horowitz and Jonathan Tobin are not rabbis, but oppose CRT and the ADL's behavior. Dov Fischer is a rabbi, and he hates CRT https://tinyurl.com/2bkdcw6n

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 01:02 PM (Zzbjj)

304 Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:53 PM (S/NWs)


I don't disagree with you at all.

But what you are describing is symptomatic of precisely what I'm telling you.

I'm sure you can find plenty of individual Jewish people that will tell you they don't support white-hate.

Now, you may tell me that it's too late, that tribalism has progressed too far and is incurable. That's debatable. But I can't judge a man on group demographics, and I won't.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 01:02 PM (Ll5Vg)

305 Family drama? Run away.
Faster.
Posted by: nurse ratched
___

Good thing Ex-ex didn't do that with me.

We can't pick our family members.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 01:02 PM (VTyhy)

306 >>> . Lies lies lies are her oxygen. Without them, she'd have to face reality, which she'll never be capable of doing as long as she lives.
Posted by: BurtTC
--------------------------

Good Riddance.



Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 01:02 PM (ZS+GP)

307 SMH,

The picture reminded me of him and of the unlikely kindness of strangers.

JD had tons of money and sleezeball chicks were hanging around his place all the time but they never lasted very long. He ended up moving back to Jersey at the start of the madness.

Posted by: pawn at November 26, 2022 01:03 PM (wsHtO)

308 No, they proselytize and, like Kalus Schwab, see China as a role model.

Also in the news: China is in the process of adding so much more coal derived power plants that the amount being added is more than all of Germany's annual electricity needs.

Does Klaus think that the West should emulate China in how they are balancing their nation's energy needs with Climate Change goals?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 01:03 PM (3hSHB)

309 292 @jim

This is the point of that verse I wanted to bring out.
"If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles,"

Peter and Paul were living as Gentiles.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 12:58 PM (S/NWs)

To a great degree yes. To the entire exetent, I do not know, but the verse indicates they ate with the Gentiles.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 01:03 PM (ynpvh)

310 I bet if I came to a MoMe, twenty people would leave thinking I'm a pretty good fella. 40 would be ambivalent. 60 would think I'm a stupid bastard."
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 12:48 PM (Ll5Vg)

No one would think that of you! well unless - I'm reminded of Jimmy Bond (Woody Allen) in the 1965 "Casino Royale".
Jimmy Bond: "They said I'm crazy! They said Einstein was crazy!"
Girl who he has locked up: "That's not true, No one ever said Einstein was crazy!"
Jimmy Bond, dancing maniacally around the room: "Well they would have if he carried on like this!!!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2022 01:04 PM (r46W7)

311 Does Klaus think that the West should emulate China in how they are balancing their nation's energy needs with Climate Change goals?
Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 01:03 PM (3hSHB

No no. Just the people being cattle for the authoritarians.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 26, 2022 01:04 PM (6VKyY)

312 Does Klaus think that the West should emulate China in how they are balancing their nation's energy needs with Climate Change goals?
Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 01:03 PM (3hSHB)

Only if he thought it would rapidly kill off 90% of the population.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 01:04 PM (Zzbjj)

313 Lies lies lies are her oxygen. Without them, she'd have to face reality, which she'll never be capable of doing as long as she lives.
Posted by: BurtTC
--------------------------

Good Riddance.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 01:02 PM (ZS+GP)

Yeah, but man was it sweet for a while there.

She's my heroin, and I'll always be addicted to her as long as I live. Thankfully, this drug wants nothing to do with me.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 01:04 PM (XfBY/)

314 305 Family drama? Run away.
Faster.
Posted by: nurse ratched
___

Good thing Ex-ex didn't do that with me.

We can't pick our family members.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 01:02 PM (VTyhy)

Unless you adopt...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

315 What I don't understand is...

If you men are going to get yelled at and berated, regardless of what you do, why not do as you please?

Honey, I'm going to Bud's house to watch the game on his big screen. I'm going to drink beer and eat hot dogs and smoke a cigar.

See ya later.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 01:05 PM (U2p+3)

316 Count that's a bummer
Posted by: Skip at November 26, 2022 12:58 PM (xhxe

Family drama? Run away.
Faster.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 01:00 PM (U2p+3)

Yeah. It seems the week she just spent with one of her sons, his wife, and the granddaughters was not all sunshine and laughter. However, she's not said what the current hubub is about or with whom.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 26, 2022 01:05 PM (4I/2K)

317 He's not. First hoax death report started circulating November 13th on Facebook.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2022 01:01 PM (H6Wmi)

hollywood, on the other hand...

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2022 01:06 PM (r46W7)

318 315 What I don't understand is...

If you men are going to get yelled at and berated, regardless of what you do, why not do as you please?

Honey, I'm going to Bud's house to watch the game on his big screen. I'm going to drink beer and eat hot dogs and smoke a cigar.

See ya later.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 01:05 PM (U2p+3)


Because men naturally want to have a peaceful home and avoid conflict where there is not supposed to be any. We get enough of that in the outside world.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 26, 2022 01:06 PM (6VKyY)

319 Unless you adopt...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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True.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 01:06 PM (VTyhy)

320 315 What I don't understand is...

If you men are going to get yelled at and berated, regardless of what you do, why not do as you please?

Honey, I'm going to Bud's house to watch the game on his big screen. I'm going to drink beer and eat hot dogs and smoke a cigar.

See ya later.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 01:05 PM (U2p+3)

After effects of the decision, I guess. One is probably worse than the other. It's like being murdered; you can be shot dead, or slowly killed, cut up inch, by inch, by inch...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 01:07 PM (ynpvh)

321 Irene Cara, yes.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 26, 2022 01:00 PM

I guess she's not gonna live forever afterall.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 26, 2022 01:07 PM (Do5/p)

322 I don't quite follow the Walter Kirn/Pamela Thomas exchange. Free Twitter has been showing the fuming of those who lost their monopoly on speech. And what does that have to do with saving the planet by not having babies?

Posted by: Emmie at November 26, 2022 01:08 PM (Emce2)

323 Damn I hate being willowed on a wordy comment. Like I was talking to a group and the audience just turned and walked away. 😀

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 11:21 AM (nBhwo)



Huh? Wudju say?

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 26, 2022 01:08 PM (EU6HP)

324 288 Was supposed to have a date today. Has been called on account of family troubles on her side.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 26, 2022 12:57 PM (4I/2K)

ITYM "called on account of Giant Red Flags Flying everywhere."

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2022 01:08 PM (r46W7)

325 I guess she's not gonna live forever after all.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
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If she went to Heaven, she will.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 01:08 PM (tUVd3)

326 Doubt Bruce is room temperature yet anyway

Posted by: Skip at November 26, 2022 01:08 PM (xhxe8)

327 "I'm sure you can find plenty of individual Jewish people that will tell you they don't support white-hate."

Yep. We're just not organized that way. Until it comes to anti-semitism. It's cool. That's nature. Just stop lecturing me about anti-semitism if your attitude on anti-white rhetoric is to hit the snooze button. I can't get worked up over defending other people's cultures either, so you and me, we're the same.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 01:08 PM (S/NWs)

328 326 Doubt Bruce is room temperature yet anyway

Posted by: Skip at November 26, 2022 01:08 PM (xhxe

I used to live in the desert. Sometimes room temperature was higher than what my body wanted to be. If he's in some balmy paradise, maybe.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 01:09 PM (ynpvh)

329 "If you men are going to get yelled at and berated, regardless of what you do, why not do as you please?"

That's actually the first step to reclaiming your dignity as a man. Let her know you're going elsewhere and staying as long as you like.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 01:10 PM (S/NWs)

330 Because men naturally want to have a peaceful home and avoid conflict where there is not supposed to be any. We get enough of that in the outside world.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 26, 2022 01:06 PM

If men naturally want to have a peaceful home and avoid conflict, they would not get married.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 26, 2022 01:10 PM (Do5/p)

331 Then tell your woman to stop being a harpy bitch. Honestly.

I don't understand why anyone would put up with that crap. And women who treat their husbands like that don't respect them, or their marriage.

Being mistreated in order to be less miserable?

Jeepers. Sorry, guys.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 01:10 PM (U2p+3)

332 327 "I'm sure you can find plenty of individual Jewish people that will tell you they don't support white-hate."

Yep. We're just not organized that way. Until it comes to anti-semitism. It's cool. That's nature. Just stop lecturing me about anti-semitism if your attitude on anti-white rhetoric is to hit the snooze button. I can't get worked up over defending other people's cultures either, so you and me, we're the same.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 01:08 PM (S/NWs)

Collectivism vs Individualism

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 01:10 PM (ynpvh)

333 If you men are going to get yelled at and berated, regardless of what you do, why not do as you please?

Honey, I'm going to Bud's house to watch the game on his big screen. I'm going to drink beer and eat hot dogs and smoke a cigar.

See ya later.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 01:05 PM (U2p+3)

You got it right!
"Well it's alright now;
I learned my lesson well.
Ya know ya can't please everyone
so you got to please yourself."

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2022 01:10 PM (r46W7)

334 Was supposed to have a date today. Has been called on account of family troubles on her side.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 26, 2022 12:57 PM (4I/2K)

ITYM "called on account of Giant Red Flags Flying everywhere."
Posted by: Tom Servo


Like Red Square on May Day.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2022 01:10 PM (H6Wmi)

335 "Does Klaus think that the West should emulate China in how they are balancing their nation's energy needs with Climate Change goals?"
Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 01:03 PM (3hSHB)


None of the global movers and shakers believe in climate change, it's just a useful tool for them right at this moment.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 26, 2022 01:11 PM (qH6FZ)

336 Jeepers. Sorry, guys.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 01:10 PM (U2p+3)

Now add in a court system that is heavily weighted in the woman's favor.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 26, 2022 01:11 PM (6VKyY)

337 331 Then tell your woman to stop being a harpy bitch. Honestly.

I don't understand why anyone would put up with that crap. And women who treat their husbands like that don't respect them, or their marriage.

Being mistreated in order to be less miserable?

Jeepers. Sorry, guys.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 01:10 PM (U2p+3)

Some guys do it for sake of the children. But you have to wonder why they got into the relationship with someone like that in the first place...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 01:11 PM (ynpvh)

338 OK, guys, need a little feedback here:

Rain the Thunderstorm Rescue Kitten has developed an obsession with my genuine Robert E. Lee sgin dubh. Goes crazy rassling with it. I can't fit them both in my boottop. Any suggestions?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at November 26, 2022 01:12 PM (8fxF+)

339 "Collectivism vs Individualism"

If it's wrong to denigrate Jews over race or culture or religion, it's wrong to denigrate whites over race or culture or religion. Is it an ideal or a collectivist impulse all these individualistic conservative Jews are expressing?

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 01:12 PM (S/NWs)

340 ITYM "called on account of Giant Red Flags Flying everywhere."
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2022 01:08 PM (r46W7)

It was going to be our 3rd date, IYKWIM.

You see all them waving Giant Red Flags, little brain? Stand down! Let me handle this without your influence.

Posted by: Count de Monet's Big Brain at November 26, 2022 01:12 PM (4I/2K)

341 334 Was supposed to have a date today. Has been called on account of family troubles on her side.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 26, 2022 12:57 PM (4I/2K)

ITYM "called on account of Giant Red Flags Flying everywhere."
Posted by: Tom Servo

Like Red Square on May Day.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2022 01:10 PM (H6Wmi)

Waiting for the NFL and FIFA to use rainbow flags...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 01:13 PM (ynpvh)

342 Kids are not cute....I think of most animals who kick the young ones out of the nest at a certain time to make way for a new batch. Humans need to do the same, no more hanging around until they are nearly 30, living off their parents.

Posted by: Colin at November 26, 2022 01:13 PM (zJY/j)

343 Yes, we are talking about the garage, not the living room or dining room, but the garage. I have six one gallon buckets of top-of-the-line interior paint, because the garage needs to be Done Right™
Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 12:56

That's awful. I'd be so happy you were painting. I hate painting.
Sometimes I don't think people realize how they sound. I say, did you just say blah blah blah? I don't think I heard you correctly. If they double down they meant to be mean.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 26, 2022 01:13 PM (QljPp)

344 Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 01:05 PM (U2p+3)

After effects of the decision, I guess. One is probably worse than the other. It's like being murdered; you can be shot dead, or slowly killed, cut up inch, by inch, by inch...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 01:07 PM (ynpvh)

I believe that is part of it. You make your decision, in this case to tie yourself and your life to another person. That person becomes something other than who they presented themselves to be, and then you must ask yourself... what do I owe this person? What of my vow?

It's a hard hard point to reach, but I think you have to decide for yourself, is my vow valid, if this person is truly not who they claimed? Or if they changed enough over time? With whom did I make that vow, and what if THEY are the one who has broken it?

Tough choices, always.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 01:14 PM (XfBY/)

345 Hey CaliGirl.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 01:14 PM (tUVd3)

346 None of the global movers and shakers believe in climate change, it's just a useful tool for them right at this moment.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 26, 2022 01:11 PM

Dominoes commercial just aired during UM-OSU game stated that they now have a fleet of EVs to deliver pizzas. Ending with "it's better for the planet".

This bald-faced lie is now so accepted as true, that companies are using it with the understanding that spouting this lie will make people like their company. And they're right. Because the majority of people actually do think that EVs are good for the planet.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 26, 2022 01:14 PM (Do5/p)

347 I'm glad the company all made it to dinner safely.
I'll be glad when they all make it back to their homes too.

Posted by: DaveA at November 26, 2022 01:15 PM (FhXTo)

348 Because men naturally want to have a peaceful home and avoid conflict where there is not supposed to be any. We get enough of that in the outside world.

Good men are wired to power through adversity. That is how you win wars, that is how you take start-ups and make great businesses, that is how you take a crap situation and keep it from going totally off the rails.

I have no respect for MGTOW - while I understand their grievances; yet, it is no excuse for duty, honor and persevering through adversity.

I don't abandon ship when the seas are rough. Its part of the adventure. We got on the ship for a reason. While I can't choose my mother, I did my mate and many of those reasons still persist despite the many changes.

I can gladly enumerate the many good things that I am grateful for. Its not all bad. Compartmentalize and lock off the bad, focus on the good.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 01:15 PM (3hSHB)

349 Yesterday, I was toasting in front of the fireplace at my in-laws. My sis-in-law was next to me, beaming at her brood of children and grandchildren. She has quite the legacy.

Anyway, what I saw was indescribable riches. It's great to be a part of that.

Posted by: Emmie at November 26, 2022 01:16 PM (Emce2)

350 Rain the Thunderstorm Rescue Kitten has developed an obsession with my genuine Robert E. Lee sgin dubh. Goes crazy rassling with it. I can't fit them both in my boottop. Any suggestions?
Posted by: richard mcenroe at November 26, 2022 01:12 PM (8fxF+

What's a sgin dubh? Sounds Irish.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 26, 2022 01:16 PM (6VKyY)

351 After effects of the decision, I guess. One is probably worse than the other. It's like being murdered; you can be shot dead, or slowly killed, cut up inch, by inch, by inch...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia

This is where "spanking her until she knows who the fuck daddy is" comes in to play. If she wants to act like a spoiled, selfish, entitled brat, then she can be treated like one. One warning such as, "stop bitching me out about every damned thing or I will spank you until you can't sit down" if behavior continues, follow through.
Some women really need a man to tell her to shut up. I'm not sure why but it's almost like they never got past that teenager pushing the boundaries stage. Give her the boundaries. Make sure she understands that breaking those will result in consequences.

In short.... Treat her like the willful teenager she is impersonating.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 01:16 PM (Wy1BU)

352 "Good men are wired to power through adversity. That is how you win wars, that is how you take start-ups and make great businesses, that is how you take a crap situation and keep it from going totally off the rails."

I do not believe the way to win this war is to "power through". A miserable woman is miserable for a reason. A woman like that responds to boundaries. You have to tell her. I'm done with the attitude. You need to change. You are cruel and hateful. You don't have to be mean about it. But you do have to be firm and stand your ground. It will be ugly and she will keep returning to this. But if you think you are saving your marriage by hiding from her rage, you aren't. She needs you to fix this.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 01:18 PM (S/NWs)

353 Some guys do it for sake of the children. But you have to wonder why they got into the relationship with someone like that in the first place...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022

I hear some of my friends completely emasculate their husbands in public. I hate it. I don't think some men are able to say, that was inappropriate, if you have a problem lets discuss it privately.
I think the girls are mad about something else and they bitch publicly because their husband won't say anything in front of people.
My number one rule is if my husband doesn't like something I've done, tell me privately, don't wait for an audience to humiliate me.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 26, 2022 01:18 PM (QljPp)

354 Then tell your woman to stop being a harpy bitch. Honestly.

I don't understand why anyone would put up with that crap. And women who treat their husbands like that don't respect them, or their marriage.

Being mistreated in order to be less miserable?

Jeepers. Sorry, guys.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 01:10 PM (U2p+3)

That's basically what I did. Even used the B word, once. Once. Turns out that is the worst word in the English language. I apologized for it, but months later when she was telling me how it is, I was informed that was the beginning of the end for her.

So be it.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 01:19 PM (XfBY/)

355
To a great degree yes. To the entire exetent, I do not know, but the verse indicates they ate with the Gentiles.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 01:03 PM (ynpvh)

I'm going to butt in and ask if you are discussing Galations 2:11-15. I'm in an exegetical study of Galations, and the various commentaries I've been reading in regards to these verses indicate that Peter, after his vision in Joppa, (Acts 10:9-21) was instructed by God to welcome and embrace Gentile believers in Christ, to include eating with them. According to the Hebrew Christians, the Gentile converts were not really "Christian" or saved until they first converted to Judaism, since the Jewish converts believed that Christ the Messiah had come for the Jews.
Paul was confronting Peter who HAD been embracing Gentile believers and. eating with them, until he was visited by a group of Hebrew believers who condemned him for associating with Gentiles, at which point he became aloof towards him. Paul told him to get his act together. See Spurgeon, Ryrie, Dummelow commentaries, as well as Ignatius Catholic Study Bible.

Posted by: Moki at November 26, 2022 01:19 PM (JrN/x)

356 Hi Moki.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 01:19 PM (tUVd3)

357 That person becomes something other than who they presented themselves to be, and then you must ask yourself... what do I owe this person? What of my vow?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 01:14 PM

Does anyone's wedding vow state somewhere that it will become void if the other person changes? Nothing in this traditional vow states anything like that. For better or *worse* and all that:

"I, _____, take you, _____, for my lawful wife/husband, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part. I will love and honor you all the days of my life."

Is the update to that "...unless you turn into a harpy bitch/raging asshole, then everything I just said is void and I'm out."

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 26, 2022 01:19 PM (Do5/p)

358 You're being obtuse now. It's not the religion . Most of the people you rail against are secular Jews and you lump that in with all Jews. Do Catholics now . Because I don't think Nancy Pelosi or Biden are Jewish.

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 12:09 PM (nBhwo)



That's an excellent point.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 26, 2022 01:19 PM (EU6HP)

359 345 Hey CaliGirl.
Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 01:14 PM (

How was your holiday? I hope it was good!

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 26, 2022 01:20 PM (QljPp)

360 And as for Black Lives Matter: they are a despicable, anti-freedom, anti-Semitic organization that hates our country’s core values of equal opportunity, law and justice, and free enterprise. (Rabbi Dov Fischer).

He will never be chosen by the major networks to counter the ADL, but assuming that all or most Jews love the ADL and hate Western Culture is silly.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 01:20 PM (Zzbjj)

361 Have another mountain of leaves ready to chop up but lost motivation. At least have to chop them up today even if not gathered and in compost bin

Posted by: Skip at November 26, 2022 01:21 PM (xhxe8)

362 My family used to have a very large Thanksgiving dinner with several tables set up over flowing the dinning room. Lots of food, turkey, ham, and just about every vegetable their is.
Now its just me.... and many of my friends said it the same with them. Not sure but moving away, deaths, and living all over the country has made the difference. Or people just don't want to not travel.

Posted by: Colin at November 26, 2022 01:21 PM (zJY/j)

363 That's awful. I'd be so happy you were painting. I hate painting.
Sometimes I don't think people realize how they sound. I say, did you just say blah blah blah? I don't think I heard you correctly. If they double down they meant to be mean.


The LORD blessed me with a unicorn for a home. What would normally be a seven figure property, I got for a third of the price. A lot of the things are top drawer, and she wants to preserve that - even in the garage. The garage is insulated, extra large, well lit, crown molding, drywall rounded corners, interior grade recessed cabinetry and workspace, etc.

The house was recently professionally painted inside, so I guess the feeling is that the garage should be too. (sigh)

Its a garage....

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 01:21 PM (3hSHB)

364 353 Some guys do it for sake of the children. But you have to wonder why they got into the relationship with someone like that in the first place...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022

I hear some of my friends completely emasculate their husbands in public. I hate it. I don't think some men are able to say, that was inappropriate, if you have a problem lets discuss it privately.
I think the girls are mad about something else and they bitch publicly because their husband won't say anything in front of people.
My number one rule is if my husband doesn't like something I've done, tell me privately, don't wait for an audience to humiliate me.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 26, 2022 01:18 PM (QljPp)

Airing greivances in public is bad form; real like ain't Jerry Springer (for most people).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 01:21 PM (ynpvh)

365 Damn. The Buckeyes came out firing on all cylinders and now seem to be stuck in the mud.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 01:22 PM (Xrfse)

366 How was your holiday? I hope it was good!
Posted by: CaliGirl
___

It was just the two of us, so no family squabbles, so there's that.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 01:22 PM (tUVd3)

367 My favorite Walter Kirn tweet, posted around the time of the mar-a-Lago raid:


@walterkirn

Each day is setting a record for the stupidest so far.

Aug 12, 2022 - 3:21 AM

Posted by: Hands at November 26, 2022 01:22 PM (786Ro)

368 A while back while prepping for a move, my oldest son and I were in the garage boxing stuff up. Wife, his stepmom, comes out, looks around, and goes back inside. Son says “can’t wait to hear what we did wrong.” Heh.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 26, 2022 01:02 PM (u73oe)
______________________________
Ha. That little scene has been perpetrated against men for as long as men and women started getting together. Ladies, we ain't the Amazing Kreskin. If you're gonna hang some stupid grudge on us, please give us a clue so we're better able to manage the crazy.

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 26, 2022 01:22 PM (Wa7pD)

369 One warning such as, "stop bitching me out about every damned thing or I will spank you until you can't sit down" if behavior continues, follow through.

I know there's a commenter here who always refers to spanking in sex play, but I don't think that's what you're referring to.

If a woman already knows she's the Queen Bee, threats of physical violence will not move her. She knows if she gets hit she then has carte blanche to sue the perp out of existence. And yes, in this case, the husband who spanks her is the perp.

Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2022 01:22 PM (3MKIS)

370 Probably not accepted thinking these days, but a lot of women are actually angry because they got promised a bill of goods by feminists and now realize that being a man sucks.

All that fulfillment promised if you give up your role as a woman/mother/wife was a fugazi.

And now women get to be as miserable as men.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 26, 2022 01:23 PM (6VKyY)

371 What do Buckeye players do to earn those marijuana stickers on their helmets?

Posted by: Hands at November 26, 2022 01:23 PM (786Ro)

372 I hear some of my friends completely emasculate their husbands in public. I hate it. I don't think some men are able to say, that was inappropriate, if you have a problem lets discuss it privately.
I think the girls are mad about something else and they bitch publicly because their husband won't say anything in front of people.
My number one rule is if my husband doesn't like something I've done, tell me privately, don't wait for an audience to humiliate me.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 26, 2022 01:18 PM (QljPp)

Yes, badmouthing your mate in public is a HUGE warning sign. If she (or he) does it in front of you, they're essentially telling everyone (and you) that they're in charge.

If they do it behind your back, it's to enlist allies against you.

Either way, it spells doom.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 01:23 PM (XfBY/)

373 He's a great man and seems like he would be a fine religious leader-Rabbi Dov Fischer. I used to read his stuff regularly.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 01:24 PM (vH/6k)

374 That's an excellent point.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 26, 2022 01:19 PM (EU6HP)

And here's a pro-BLM, political statement I found on the Presbyterian Church USA site :
https://tinyurl.com/39sbr5cb

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 01:24 PM (Zzbjj)

375 "To a great degree yes. To the entire exetent, I do not know, but the verse indicates they ate with the Gentiles."

I don't disagree with that. It's unclear how far it went. I'm not even sure a lifelong Jew could eat pork without throwing up. There were also some things, like the tithe, that God said Jews were to observe forever. But Romans 7 says they're dead to the law like a wife to a dead husband. No longer joined. Free to do as they please. They were also violating whatever the Jewish term for the kosher laws were, so eating with Gentiles was in and of itself an unclean act.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 01:24 PM (S/NWs)

376 All that fulfillment promised if you give up your role as a woman/mother/wife was a fugazi.
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More than that, they were promised that they could do better than the normal schlub who was interested in them, and now they are middle aged and alone and bitter.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 26, 2022 01:25 PM (j/Dsc)

377 And now women get to be as miserable as men.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
___

This is more true than we women want to admit.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 01:25 PM (tUVd3)

378 Well, we got a game in the Shoe.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 26, 2022 01:26 PM (6VKyY)

379 What do Buckeye players do to earn those marijuana stickers on their helmets?

Posted by: Hands at November 26, 2022 01:23 PM

Explanation for both Ohio State and Michigan helmet decals:

http://bit.ly/3Exu27C

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 26, 2022 01:26 PM (Do5/p)

380 damn

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 01:26 PM (Xrfse)

381 With equal rights comes equal misery.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 26, 2022 01:27 PM (vCY3B)

382 In short.... Treat her like the willful teenager she is impersonating.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at

Absolutely spot on!

And any woman who berates her husband in public needs to find her own ride home.

I'm not saying divorce. I'm saying, don't allow that crap to continue. Get to counseling. Go see a priest.

Just because you're married does not mean you have to capitulate to every bullshit whim. And you certainly don't have to take being dressed down in public.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 01:27 PM (U2p+3)

383 What do Buckeye players do to earn those marijuana stickers on their helmets?

Posted by: Hands at November 26, 2022 01:23 PM

Ha! Buckeye leaves as MJ leaves

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 01:28 PM (Zzbjj)

384 I hear some of my friends completely emasculate their husbands in public. I hate it. I don't think some men are able to say, that was inappropriate, if you have a problem lets discuss it privately.
I think the girls are mad about something else and they bitch publicly because their husband won't say anything in front of people.
My number one rule is if my husband doesn't like something I've done, tell me privately, don't wait for an audience to humiliate me.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 26, 2022 01:18 PM (QljPp)
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That happened to me ONCE. I told my wife that if she ever did that again, she'll find her suitcase out at the curb. She knew I was serious and never did it again.

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 26, 2022 01:28 PM (Wa7pD)

385 I’m a patient man, but I reached my limit a couple of months ago. I was being berated for my method do cleaning out the refrigerator. Leave, I said. I don’t need you. There is nothing that you do that I can’t do myself. Take your mother with you.

It hasn’t been all unicorns and rainbows, but she now watches what she says.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 26, 2022 01:29 PM (u73oe)

386 Just because you're married does not mean you have to capitulate to every bullshit whim. And you certainly don't have to take being dressed down in public.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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This^

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 01:29 PM (tUVd3)

387 Bad accident in the city. Around 3pm, 3 cars crashed at an intersection. One passenger was killed.
The kicker of the story is that all 3 drivers ran away!
Happy day after black Friday, and the preps are always busy at night.

Posted by: Colin at November 26, 2022 01:29 PM (zJY/j)

388 The Jewish term for Kosher laws is Kashrut.

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 01:29 PM (Zzbjj)

389 I know there's a commenter here who always refers to spanking in sex play, but I don't think that's what you're referring to.

If a woman already knows she's the Queen Bee, threats of physical violence will not move her. She knows if she gets hit she then has carte blanche to sue the perp out of existence. And yes, in this case, the husband who spanks her is the perp.
Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2022 01:22 PM (3MKIS)

I would never advocate physical violence. Never. Yes, some women know that, and they use it to their advantage ("he won't lay a finger on me, so I'm going to do what I want"), but yeah, that's a woman you want to get as far away from as possible.

The law will come down on you like a ton of bricks if you give in to the urge. It just will. And then where will you be. Divorced with a criminal record.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 01:29 PM (XfBY/)

390 Just because you're married does not mean you have to capitulate to every bullshit whim. And you certainly don't have to take being dressed down in public.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 01:27 PM (U2p+3)

If I am interested in dating a woman more than once, I ask them to listen to an Old Elvis Song... 'Treat me Nice'.

Pretty much sums up where I'm at now.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 26, 2022 01:30 PM (oHd/0)

391 Late to the thread. I am blessed with family where we all get along with each other and have each other's backs. And exceptionally blessed with awesome next door neighbors.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 26, 2022 01:30 PM (3cGpq)

392
Either way, it spells doom.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 01:23

I agree. I die a little for those guys when it happens.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 26, 2022 01:31 PM (QljPp)

393 I'm wracking my brain trying to identify "the current thing." Maybe it's Musk's assault on decency and safety and the official sources of "reliable" information.

Posted by: Emmie at November 26, 2022 01:31 PM (Emce2)

394 375 "To a great degree yes. To the entire exetent, I do not know, but the verse indicates they ate with the Gentiles."

I don't disagree with that. It's unclear how far it went. I'm not even sure a lifelong Jew could eat pork without throwing up. There were also some things, like the tithe, that God said Jews were to observe forever. But Romans 7 says they're dead to the law like a wife to a dead husband. No longer joined. Free to do as they please. They were also violating whatever the Jewish term for the kosher laws were, so eating with Gentiles was in and of itself an unclean act.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 01:24 PM (S/NWs)

My interpretation of Romans 7 is that the law condemns us to death, becuase the law is Spritual, from God, and we are flesh and blood, fated to sin. Only through the sacrifice Jesus made (and belief in it) do we find a way out of that penalty, and it that manner the law is dead, as it has no hold on us.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 01:31 PM (ynpvh)

395 Does anyone's wedding vow state somewhere that it will become void if the other person changes? Nothing in this traditional vow states anything like that. For better or *worse* and all that:

"I, _____, take you, _____, for my lawful wife/husband, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part. I will love and honor you all the days of my life."

Is the update to that "...unless you turn into a harpy bitch/raging asshole, then everything I just said is void and I'm out."
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 26, 2022 01:19 PM (Do5/p)

There is a line.

Everyone has to find it for themselves, but the line does exist.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 01:32 PM (XfBY/)

396 382 ...I'm not saying divorce...Go see a priest.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 01:27 PM (U2p+3)

So an Exorcism, then?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 01:33 PM (ynpvh)

397 NOOD KT Gardening Thread!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 01:33 PM (ynpvh)

398 That happened to me ONCE. I told my wife that if she ever did that again, she'll find her suitcase out at the curb. She knew I was serious and never did it again.
Posted by: Ombudsman
This is what I'm saying.
Gentlemen! Don't be a doormat! Stand your ground, have the argument, tell her what you expect of her, and stop letting her control your life and marriage. Marriage is a partnership and if one party is making impossible demands, that partnership is gonna get wrecked.

Bottom line is... Do you love this person? If yes, then do what you MUST do to make that a true partnership. STOP BEING A DOOR MAT!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 01:34 PM (Wy1BU)

399 I recall Ricky Ricardo threatening Lucy with a spanking, maybe in 1952 that tactic was productive. But in the 21c, not so much.

Right now all we're hearing on this thread of the men who are henpecked and psychologically tortured. You know there are women who endure that campaign of abuse - and worse - nobody here is relating that story.
Some women who are abused don't know how to stand up to the perp, and pay with their lives.

If a man ever threatened me with spanking, my only response would be: "Sounds like *somebody* is wondering what it would feel like to wake up with a knife stuck in their throat"

Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2022 01:34 PM (fYd9N)

400 Does anyone's wedding vow state somewhere that it will become void if the other person changes? Nothing in this traditional vow states anything like that. For better or *worse* and all that:

I think there should be allowances for corner cases (or what seems to be SOP according to anecdotal evidence) for things like pornea (adultery, sexual sin, etc.), battery, or for behavior that is otherwise toxic in the very serious sense.

Marriage, in the form of those vows assumed for a mostly two person effort; there are times when people need a vacation from responsibility, duty and honor though that should not ever be a sustained sabbatical.

If one bombs out for what appears forever, what is the point? My personal position tries a more eternal perspective where I don't want to confront God and have to admit failure when I had the tools to persevere.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 01:34 PM (3hSHB)

401 356 Hi Moki.
Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 01:19 PM (tUVd3)


Hey SMH! I hope you and ex-ex had a wonderful holiday! Is it boxing time with the grandbabies yet?!

Posted by: Moki at November 26, 2022 01:35 PM (JrN/x)

402 Do Catholics now . Because I don't think Nancy Pelosi or Biden are Jewish.
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That's an excellent point.
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It's not. I'm baptist. Catholic hypocrisy is pretty much my raison d'etre.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 26, 2022 01:35 PM (S/NWs)

403 And here's a pro-BLM, political statement I found on the Presbyterian Church USA site :
https://tinyurl.com/39sbr5cb

Posted by: CN at November 26, 2022 01:24 PM (Zzbjj)



Makes me nauseous. There's no place for politics or propaganda in any church. If I ever see that in the Catholic Church, I'm gone. Not from my faith in God but from those leaders that would politicize his House.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 26, 2022 01:35 PM (EU6HP)

404 Rodney Carrington sums it up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NoadssngkI

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 26, 2022 01:35 PM (Wa7pD)

405 Yes, badmouthing your mate in public is a HUGE warning sign. If she (or he) does it in front of you, they're essentially telling everyone (and you) that they're in charge.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 01:23 PM

Yep. Last serious (2+ years) girlfriend I dated did this to me multiple times. It was my warning sign and I ended it.

Many of the times she was making fun of me for stupid stuff. Which in and of itself was not a big deal if she was just kinda whispering the mocking to me to keep it a personal joke between the two of us. That's healthy, laughing with your partner. But she would just get loud and mock me making sure everyone around us was in on the mocking of me. That got old. Saw it early on in the relationship as well, when I dared to put my engineering mind to use in helping her move out of her college apartment. She told me to wait for her father and brother to help move some bookcase downstairs. I found a way to get it down myself. She proceeded to practically scream at me and make me feel like I was incompetent and should never defy her. Sign of things to come as it turned out.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 26, 2022 01:35 PM (Do5/p)

406 370 Probably not accepted thinking these days, but a lot of women are actually angry because they got promised a bill of goods by feminists and now realize that being a man sucks.

All that fulfillment promised if you give up your role as a woman/mother/wife was a fugazi.

And now women get to be as miserable as men.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 26, 2022 01:23 PM (6VKyY)

Was working at a tech trainer, and a day off... Female boss called me telling me I needed to come in, and fill in for a Woman who had to stay home because her child was sick... well... I was a full time single parent, and I was literally sitting in a Doctor's office for one of MY kids, who was sick... told her that, and she said she didn't care, come in anyway.

I said 'PLEASE put that in writing... as it is a CLEAR case of Sexual Discrimination... and I am NOT coming in'.

Never heard another word about it... but that boss pretty much hated my guts.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 26, 2022 01:36 PM (oHd/0)

407 >>>That happened to me ONCE. I told my wife that if she ever did that again, she'll find her suitcase out at the curb. She knew I was serious and never did it again.

>I think I'd pack a suitcase and never return. Seems like an easier solution.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 26, 2022 01:36 PM (geVLo)

408
153 It's not just women berating men, or men berating women. Society writ large has become bitter, belligerent and dangerously aggressive towards each other.

What used to end with a middle finger flip off is about to get resolved at the barrel of a gun.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 26, 2022 11:59 AM (Q4IgG)

True, but still......I'm conflicted.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 26, 2022 01:37 PM (BdMk6)

409 Gentlemen! Don't be a doormat! Stand your ground, have the argument, tell her what you expect of her, and stop letting her control your life and marriage. Marriage is a partnership and if one party is making impossible demands, that partnership is gonna get wrecked.

Bottom line is... Do you love this person? If yes, then do what you MUST do to make that a true partnership. STOP BEING A DOOR MAT!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 01:34 PM (Wy1BU)

Amen. That's basically what happened to me. I set my limits, which mostly had to do with what she was willing to accuse me of, when there was no basis in truth (i.e. you're just like my ex, you remind me of my father, you don't care about my kids, you won't let me spend time with my friends, you are trying to control my money).

None of it was true. None. Of. It. So I stood my ground, said so. And that was enough for her to decide she needed to get out.

Fine. Go.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 01:37 PM (XfBY/)

410 and it that manner the law is dead, as it has no hold on us.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 01:31 PM (ynpvh)




I think 1 John 2 kind of digs a bit deeper.

Yes, Christ is the propitiation for our breaking of the law if we claim fellowship with Him.

However the measure of whether we are really in fellowship with Him is our desire to keep His commandments, lest we be found a liar.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2022 01:37 PM (Ll5Vg)

411 Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 26, 2022 01:29 PM (u73oe)

I've noticed it's always the good guys who end up getting hectored and harassed, and same for the women. It's the good, placid, mild women who end up in ER because of getting beatdowns from their "man".

Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2022 01:39 PM (fYd9N)

412 None of it was true. None. Of. It. So I stood my ground, said so. And that was enough for her to decide she needed to get out.

Fine. Go.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 01:37 PM (XfBY/)



I feel for you buddy. I really do.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 26, 2022 01:40 PM (EU6HP)

413 If I ever see that in the Catholic Church, I'm gone. Not from my faith in God but from those leaders that would politicize his House.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 26, 2022 01:35 PM (EU6HP)


You mean your own congregation? Because Francis has done some rather questionable things.

Posted by: Emmie at November 26, 2022 01:41 PM (Emce2)

414 She proceeded to practically scream at me and make me feel like I was incompetent and should never defy her. Sign of things to come as it turned out.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 26, 2022 01:35 PM (Do5/p)

Not in public (unless you count her kids, which I guess I should), but she would yell at me for listening to Google Maps instead of her directions. Even if she didn't really know where we were going. Or her way wasn't really better.

It was the idea that I would disagree with her. It was a challenge to her shield, which was to never be wrong. About anything.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 01:42 PM (XfBY/)

415 If a man ever threatened me with spanking, my only response would be: "Sounds like *somebody* is wondering what it would feel like to wake up with a knife stuck in their throat"

Ironically, I have spent considerable time and money to learn how and physically train to be hyper violent when the need calls for it.

Fortunately there has not been an occasion to make use of any of that, and still the first level of advice given to even "black belt" level Krav Maga practitioners is to "not be there" as your best defense even if the Reebok defense is your second best (run away).

Avoidance over mitigation. Be Left of Bang. De-escalate. All sound advice. Be the warrior in the garden, not the gardener in a war. True humility is power under self-restraint.

There has never been a moment in my life where I would even consider violence, in any form or degree against someone near me. But woe to whoever attempts to touch a hair on their head. Black Flag.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 01:42 PM (3hSHB)

416 413 If I ever see that in the Catholic Church, I'm gone. Not from my faith in God but from those leaders that would politicize his House.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 26, 2022 01:35 PM (EU6HP)

You mean your own congregation? Because Francis has done some rather questionable things.

Posted by: Emmie at November 26, 2022 01:41 PM (Emce2)

Well, Franky is no Borgia Pope. And I don't think they do Indulgences these days.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 01:43 PM (ynpvh)

417 wow

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 01:43 PM (Xrfse)

418 If a man ever threatened me with spanking, my only response would be: "Sounds like *somebody* is wondering what it would feel like to wake up with a knife stuck in their throat"
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*snort*

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 01:43 PM (tUVd3)

419 It was the idea that I would disagree with her. It was a challenge to her shield, which was to never be wrong. About anything.

I think that is pretty common. I don't know any woman who has ever been wrong.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 01:44 PM (3hSHB)

420 I've noticed it's always the good guys who end up getting hectored and harassed, and same for the women. It's the good, placid, mild women who end up in ER because of getting beatdowns from their "man".
Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2022 01:39 PM (fYd9N)

Ever walk into a room... look at someone who just looks 'normal', but you KNOW they are dangerous? We have been trained for thousands of years, to recognize danger... its instinctive.

Some of us can turn that 'aura' on and off... some don't have that aura of danger at all... and THEY are the ones who get bullied by their 'mates'.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 26, 2022 01:44 PM (oHd/0)

421
If a man ever threatened me with spanking, my only response would be: "Sounds like *somebody* is wondering what it would feel like to wake up with a knife stuck in their throat"
Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2022 01:34 PM (fYd9N)

Heh. You sound like most of the women I've had any kind of relationship with. Haven't been cut yet, thank goodness.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 26, 2022 01:45 PM (BdMk6)

422 Buckeyes!

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 01:45 PM (U2p+3)

423 None of it was true. None. Of. It. So I stood my ground, said so. And that was enough for her to decide she needed to get out.

Fine. Go.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 01:37 PM (XfBY/)


I feel for you buddy. I really do.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 26, 2022 01:40 PM (EU6HP)

Thanks, obviously there are many here who have had similar circumstances. That's why I say, you just have to be true to yourself. Stand your ground (which is good advice in all of life's conflicts) when you know you are right, and try to be able to find compromise where you can. If the other person won't, so be it. That's on them.

It's painful, sure, but it beats having one's life controlled by another.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 01:45 PM (XfBY/)

424 I've had my own struggles in my marriage which I won't go into this late in the thread but if I were to get divorced and started dating again my litmus test would be to ask her, "what do you think of the saying Happy Wife, Happy Life?" If the answer is anything along the lines of "Oh, isn't that great" I do an immediate about face and leave.


If on the contrary the answer is along the lines of "Yeah, that seems pretty one-sided" or "You know there should be a corollary to that about Happy Husbands"...she's a keeper.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 26, 2022 01:45 PM (EU6HP)

425 419 It was the idea that I would disagree with her. It was a challenge to her shield, which was to never be wrong. About anything.

I think that is pretty common. I don't know any woman who has ever been wrong.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 01:44 PM (3hSHB)

The WORST? Women Teachers. They are literally the all knowing font of knowledge in the Classroom, and can NEVER be contradicted.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 26, 2022 01:46 PM (oHd/0)

426 If a man ever threatened me with spanking, my only response would be: "Sounds like *somebody* is wondering what it would feel like to wake up with a knife stuck in their throat"
Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2022 01:34 PM (fYd9N)

Related or unrelated, I did spank my wife more than once. Puller her hair too.

But only because she asked.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 01:47 PM (XfBY/)

427 You mean your own congregation? Because Francis has done some rather questionable things.

Posted by: Emmie at November 26, 2022 01:41 PM (Emce2)



I know and my guard is up. However, I am fortunate to live in a place that is very conservative and my local Church reflects that. So far.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 26, 2022 01:48 PM (EU6HP)

428 425 419 It was the idea that I would disagree with her. It was a challenge to her shield, which was to never be wrong. About anything.

I think that is pretty common. I don't know any woman who has ever been wrong.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 01:44 PM (3hSHB)

The WORST? Women Teachers. They are literally the all knowing font of knowledge in the Classroom, and can NEVER be contradicted.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 26, 2022 01:46 PM (oHd/0)

At least you can lead them around by their nose rings...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 01:48 PM (ynpvh)

429 It was the idea that I would disagree with her. It was a challenge to her shield, which was to never be wrong. About anything.

I think that is pretty common. I don't know any woman who has ever been wrong.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 01:44 PM (3hSHB)

The WORST? Women Teachers. They are literally the all knowing font of knowledge in the Classroom, and can NEVER be contradicted.
Posted by: Romeo13


A lot of women use that as a defense mechanism. Why? Dunno. Maybe people told them they were always wrong or stupid when they were teenagers. Maybe she had a sister who was "miss perfect" in school and the comparison was constant.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 01:50 PM (Wy1BU)

430 Paul, Peter and the others disagreeing with each other.
Does it ever call into question that the hand of God was not firmly on their writings?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 01:50 PM (ZS+GP)

431 The WORST? Women Teachers. They are literally the all knowing font of knowledge in the Classroom, and can NEVER be contradicted.
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Female teachers.

My fellow 'Ettes here are women.

These "teachers" are little girls playacting.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 01:50 PM (tUVd3)

432 Some of us can turn that 'aura' on and off... some don't have that aura of danger at all... and THEY are the ones who get bullied by their 'mates'.

I never thought of it this way, but I think you have a point. I grew up in a rough neighborhood, it was not unusual for girls to call each other out to fight. Somehow I made it through my teen years without getting called out. I guess I had that "aura of danger".

Either that or word got around that my family is legit crazy and my dad had his own personal armory, lol

Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2022 01:50 PM (fYd9N)

433 I think that is pretty common. I don't know any woman who has ever been wrong.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 01:44 PM (3hSHB)



Man, you can say that again!

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 26, 2022 01:50 PM (EU6HP)

434 I think a lot of the bullying from women comes from their insecurity with their relationship.

The idea that their husband would want to do anything that doesn't involve them is terrifying. Therefore.... no, you can't go to Bud's house to watch the game. No, you can't go to Vegas for a weekend with the boys. No, you can't go to the grocery store without a list and a tracking device to make sure you don't go to the local pub for a pint.

It's gross.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 01:51 PM (U2p+3)

435 Man, you can say that again!


So, I did.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 26, 2022 01:53 PM (EU6HP)

436 I really feel for those here who are experiencing marital strife. My marriage ended up in the dustbin but not due to the kind of stress I'm reading here. We just weren't meant for each other and both of us had the semi-maturity to realize it. Turned out to be an amicable parting of the ways but I still regret not being able to make it work. Such is life.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 01:53 PM (Xrfse)

437 I found a way to get it down myself. She proceeded to practically scream at me and make me feel like I was incompetent and should never defy her.

I think that is a standard feature in most women. They conjure up an image of how something should be done and have zero empathy towards anyone else's ideas unless they can poll uninvolved people when they have a sense of insecurity. (ergo, waiting for dad and brother)

Women are princesses to the men around them while they consider men around them to be servile eunuchs. Women are queens around other women and that explains a lot of the cattiness.

Once you understand that, work around these constraints and use cases to devise a form of action that minimizes collateral damage. Treat it like a puzzle albeit one with higher stakes.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 01:54 PM (3hSHB)

438 A lot of women use that as a defense mechanism. Why? Dunno. Maybe people told them they were always wrong or stupid when they were teenagers. Maybe she had a sister who was "miss perfect" in school and the comparison was constant.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 01:50 PM (Wy1BU)

There are levels of it, and the one who can LITERALLY never been made to look at their own faults/mistakes, is seriously damaged. By serious abuse.

Those who rankle at the thought of having to admit to being wrong, whether male or female, that's a level at which they can work on that part of themselves, and hopefully become less annoying to everyone around them.

Basically, we're talking about the spectrum of narcissist, and the one who has the full blown personality disorder, there's little or no hope for them.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 01:56 PM (XfBY/)

439 I think that is a standard feature in most women.

No, It's really not. FenSpouse can do many things I cannot and I am grateful to him that he can and tell him so.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 01:56 PM (vH/6k)

440 433 I think that is pretty common. I don't know any woman who has ever been wrong.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 01:44 PM (3hSHB)

Man, you can say that again!
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 26, 2022 01:50 PM (EU6HP)

Guys sometimes do it too... however...

'I'm sorry but'... is NOT an apology, or even an admission of being wrong... it's an explanation.

Never heard an actual apology from my Mom, nor Ex Wife.... ever.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 26, 2022 01:56 PM (oHd/0)

441 Women are princesses to the men around them while they consider men around them to be servile eunuchs. Women are queens around other women and that explains a lot of the cattiness.

Posted by: Reuben Hick

Wow.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 01:56 PM (U2p+3)

442 It was the idea that I would disagree with her. It was a challenge to her shield, which was to never be wrong. About anything.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 01:42 PM

Sounds familiar. The last straw for me was when she told me that when we were married (we had been talking about marriage for a while, though I never ended up proposing thankfully), I would have to always agree with her and support her even when I thought she was wrong.

She brought this up when we got into a discussion about the state of education in the country. She went to college to get a History degree and planned to be a teacher. She was adamant that Michigan schools were great and based on her extensive experience (*eyeroll*) of subbing in a few schools in her area and her mother being a long-time sub. Nothing I shared with her regarding things I read mattered to her.

This was back in 2002-2005. Fast forward to last year and I happened to look at her Fb page (she's still friends with my friends) and she's all in on #MaskUp! and BLM. I definitely dodged a bullet there.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 26, 2022 01:57 PM (Do5/p)

443 Posted by: nurse ratched

How does a man combat that? Her insecurity can be a marriage killer.
My grandmother had a cousin who told me at the family reunion......
I told her I love her the day we got married. If I change my mind, I'll let her know.
He and his wife were married for over fifty years. He didn't often say the words I love you to his lady but, she knew every day that he loved her.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 01:57 PM (Wy1BU)

444 Women are princesses to the men around them while they consider men around them to be servile eunuchs. Women are queens around other women and that explains a lot of the cattiness.

Posted by: Reuben Hick

Wow.

Posted by: nurse ratched
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Yeah, I just read it to Ex-Ex and he laughed.
The thought of any man treating me as a princess is so ludicrous it's funny.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 01:58 PM (tUVd3)

445 A lot of women use that as a defense mechanism. Why? Dunno. Maybe people told them they were always wrong or stupid when they were teenagers.

In the case of my spouse - yeah, that is a component. Mostly came from her mother who had her own Way Things Should Be Done.

Also a common expressed frustration: I'm 29+ years old! Why do they keep treating me like a child?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 01:59 PM (3hSHB)

446 One thing I told all my boys about dating. If she had a bad relationship with her father, move on.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 26, 2022 01:59 PM (u73oe)

447

Thanksgiving dinner was last night. Stuffed pork loin, dressing, braised heirloom carrots, lumpia, flan.

Saturday evening meal will be Cuban sandwiches and I think Sunday will be the remainder of the pork loin in stroganoff.

Nom nom!

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at November 26, 2022 02:00 PM (yFDQD)

448 He and his wife were married for over fifty years. He didn't often say the words I love you to his lady but, she knew every day that he loved her.
Posted by: Madamemayhem
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My parents have been married for almost 60 years.

They live separate lives in their house, and freely admit it's cheaper than divorce.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 02:01 PM (tUVd3)

449 Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at November 26, 2022 02:00 PM (yFDQD)

I could look this up, but since you had it, I'll ask you. What is lumpia?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 02:02 PM (vH/6k)

450 Yeah, I just read it to Ex-Ex and he laughed.
The thought of any man treating me as a princess is so ludicrous it's funny.


I didn't say that men treat women like princesses, maybe good dads do for their daughters when a male comes over to call, but I'm stating that females consider themselves to be princesses and want to be treated accordingly.

Even the Scriptures acknowledge the impedance between what women want and what men deliver and had to add to the man/wife role description that men must "cherish their wives" where cherish is to be understood as treating their wives as princesses.

So its in the Bible. Men just aren't following through.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 02:02 PM (3hSHB)

451 I could look this up, but since you had it, I'll ask you. What is lumpia?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 02:02 PM (vH/6k)

————-

I think it’s specific to Pennsylvania.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 26, 2022 02:03 PM (u73oe)

452 I really feel for those here who are experiencing marital strife. My marriage ended up in the dustbin but not due to the kind of stress I'm reading here. We just weren't meant for each other and both of us had the semi-maturity to realize it. Turned out to be an amicable parting of the ways but I still regret not being able to make it work. Such is life.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 01:53 PM (Xrfse)

Nothing is more miserable than waking up to the woman beside you who you know doesn't want you there beside her.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 26, 2022 02:03 PM (BdMk6)

453 My husband does cherish me.

He holds me in high esteem.

He does not treat me like a princess.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 02:04 PM (OXUrI)

454 Nor do I expect to be treated as such.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 02:04 PM (OXUrI)

455 I could look this up, but since you had it, I'll ask you. What is lumpia?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Filipino spring rolls, usually filled with pork, cabbage, and carrots.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 02:06 PM (OXUrI)

456

Lumpia? Otter's noses braised in liver puree.


Oh you mean the other one,. Filipino egg roll, superior in every way.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at November 26, 2022 02:06 PM (yFDQD)

457 Nothing is more miserable than waking up to the woman beside you who you know doesn't want you there beside her.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 26, 2022 02:03 PM (BdMk6)

Yup, I won't sleep in a cold bed... ever. One of us is leaving. Learned THAT lesson the hard way.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 26, 2022 02:07 PM (oHd/0)

458 446 One thing I told all my boys about dating. If she had a bad relationship with her father, move on.
Posted by: Duke Lowell


Ooof. I don't think that's quite fair. But, you do have a point.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 02:07 PM (U2p+3)

459 Women are princesses to the men around them while they consider men around them to be servile eunuchs. Women are queens around other women and that explains a lot of the cattiness.

Posted by: Reuben Hick


Ummm.... No. Dude you have a seriously warped view of women. We are not princess or queen. We do not see men as servants.
I do not need a servant, or a door mat. I need a man. One that sweats, swears, treats me like a lady, fucks me like a whore, doesn't feel the need to be validated, he appreciates a back rub or blow job and doesn't demand that I stroke his masculine ego. He can take a joke, he doesn't leave his balls in my purse and he earns my respect every fucking day.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 02:07 PM (Wy1BU)

460 Cherish in the Bible does not mean "treat like a princess." It means to cultivate with love and affection-which is something both partners should be doing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 02:07 PM (vH/6k)

461
I could look this up, but since you had it, I'll ask you. What is lumpia?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 02:02 PM

It's Filipino food. I haven't had any for a long time. They are like egg rolls kind of.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 26, 2022 02:07 PM (QljPp)

462 456

Lumpia? Otter's noses braised in liver puree.


Oh you mean the other one,. Filipino egg roll, superior in every way.
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer

Hey now.....

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 02:08 PM (U2p+3)

463 One thing I told all my boys about dating. If she had a bad relationship with her father, move on.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 26, 2022 01:59 PM (u73oe)

Probably good advice, in the general. I do think though, some women can overcome a bad relationship with their father (there are MANY bad fathers), if she's put work into herself.

I thought that was the case with my soon-to-be ex, but alas, it wasn't. She never put in the work. Merely hid it well for a while.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 02:08 PM (NWBBy)

464 Madammayhem.

EPIC rant.

Hub gave it two thumbs up.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 02:09 PM (OXUrI)

465 Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at November 26, 2022 02:06 PM (yFDQD)

Thanks; I've never had a Filipino egg roll.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 02:09 PM (vH/6k)

466 One of the young ladies at my gym baked me an Apple pie for Thanksgiving.

Surprised me it did...

I kinda teared up, as she's about the age of my oldest boy.

A sweet moment, and a sad one all wrapped up in a tasty pie.

I'm thankful for all my gym friends. We really are a family by choice...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 26, 2022 02:09 PM (CCSxw)

467 Nothing is more miserable than waking up to the woman beside you who you know doesn't want you there beside her.

Actually, that was not the case with us. No need to go into detail but that was not the issue.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 02:09 PM (Xrfse)

468 I do not need a servant, or a door mat. I need a man. One that sweats, swears, treats me like a lady, fucks me like a whore, doesn't feel the need to be validated, he appreciates a back rub or blow job and doesn't demand that I stroke his masculine ego. He can take a joke, he doesn't leave his balls in my purse and he earns my respect every fucking day.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)


Amen, sister.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 02:09 PM (U2p+3)

469
This was back in 2002-2005. Fast forward to last year and I happened to look at her Fb page (she's still friends with my friends) and she's all in on #MaskUp! and BLM. I definitely dodged a bullet there.


I think having a faith life makes a difference. Without one, the world will give you one as a default.

Having zero empathy, once understood, allows for devising work-arounds and strategic paths. When someone doesn't have empathy just know that they will never care about what you are going through because they don't even have the vocabulary to conceive it. While it makes for areas of loneliness, I can compensate it and plan on doing things without any moral support.

But zero empathy also works in good ways: like elevated sales resistance, and making sure that vendors and contractors follow through. Detail oriented, love of procedure. These are areas I'm terribly weak at so having a complementary working with me - I can emphasis my strengths.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 02:11 PM (3hSHB)

470 Also, my comments are in general, not specific to anyone’s particular situation.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 26, 2022 02:11 PM (u73oe)

471


Fen you would love them if done properly. Perhaps I will put the recipe up on the food thread, if the spousal unit agrees to share it. Pretty much a multi-generational family recipe that she has spent a long time perfecting.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at November 26, 2022 02:12 PM (yFDQD)

472 I thought that was the case with my soon-to-be ex, but alas, it wasn't. She never put in the work. Merely hid it well for a while.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 02:08 PM (NWBBy)

That is actually one of the scariest things I've found through multiple relationships. Many people (not just women) are able to play a role... able to play to expectations... never really revealing who they really are.

But it eventually manifests itself as they are not HAPPY being forced to play that role... and they will then sabotage the relationship.... sometimes not even realizing they are doing it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 26, 2022 02:12 PM (oHd/0)

473 Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at November 26, 2022 02:12 PM (yFDQD)

That would be great.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 02:13 PM (vH/6k)

474 460 Cherish in the Bible does not mean "treat like a princess." It means to cultivate with love and affection-which is something both partners should be doing.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 02:07 PM (vH/6k)


AMEN!!!!

Posted by: Moki at November 26, 2022 02:13 PM (JrN/x)

475 This damned game is stressing me out. Yes, I know it's only "sportsball" but I refuse to apologize for that. Heh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 02:15 PM (Xrfse)

476 I do not need a servant, or a door mat. I need a man. One that sweats, swears, treats me like a lady, fucks me like a whore, doesn't feel the need to be validated, he appreciates a back rub or blow job and doesn't demand that I stroke his masculine ego. He can take a joke, he doesn't leave his balls in my purse and he earns my respect every fucking day.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 02:07 PM (Wy1BU)

Damn. I know I checked all the boxes there... it just wasn't want she wanted. It wasn't enough for her. Which means the problem was her. I took a damned hard look at myself, to make sure I wasn't lying to myself. I wasn't. I'm not.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 02:15 PM (NWBBy)

477 I do not need a servant, or a door mat. I need a man. One that sweats, swears, treats me like a lady, fucks me like a whore, doesn't feel the need to be validated,

That is why I say men marry their jobs and get their jollies from mistresses. Because they will get what they need from work: ego stroked and validation and they can literally fuck a whore.

It aint the way it is supposed to be because we don't want to recognize that our partners need things that we don't personally value much or want to put the effort in something not mutually understood.

You might not think that respect is something you need to deliver - but that doesn't mean a man doesn't thrive on it. And driven men will get it - even if it means getting from anyone other than you.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 02:17 PM (3hSHB)

478 Go Buckeyes

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 02:17 PM (Xrfse)

479 Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 26, 2022 02:09 PM (CCSxw)

That is a nice as well as poignant story.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 02:17 PM (vH/6k)

480 Ummm.... No. Dude you have a seriously warped view of women. We are not princess or queen. We do not see men as servants.
I do not need a servant, or a door mat. I need a man. One that sweats, swears, treats me like a lady, fucks me like a whore, doesn't feel the need to be validated, he appreciates a back rub or blow job and doesn't demand that I stroke his masculine ego. He can take a joke, he doesn't leave his balls in my purse and he earns my respect every fucking day.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 02:07 PM (Wy1BU)

How ya doin'.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 26, 2022 02:17 PM (BdMk6)

481 I thought that was the case with my soon-to-be ex, but alas, it wasn't. She never put in the work. Merely hid it well for a while.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 02:08 PM (NWBBy)

That is actually one of the scariest things I've found through multiple relationships. Many people (not just women) are able to play a role... able to play to expectations... never really revealing who they really are.

But it eventually manifests itself as they are not HAPPY being forced to play that role... and they will then sabotage the relationship.... sometimes not even realizing they are doing it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 26, 2022 02:12 PM (oHd/0)

It's hard to see sometimes, but you have to look. You have to trust your gut, you have to be willing to honestly assess the situation, and hope you're going to be right if you decide to walk away from it. Or when you stand your ground, and she won't tolerate that, let her be the one to walk away. And let her go!

I say that, but truthfully, that's what I didn't do.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 02:18 PM (NWBBy)

482 >>>Saturday evening meal will be Cuban sandwiches and I think Sunday will be the remainder of the pork loin in stroganoff.

>I'm thinking a nice pork tenderloin sandwich will fill the gap nicely into Sunday. Football and a nap. My relationship counselor is also napping.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 26, 2022 02:19 PM (geVLo)

483 Damn. I know I checked all the boxes there... it just wasn't want she wanted. It wasn't enough for her. Which means the problem was her. I took a damned hard look at myself, to make sure I wasn't lying to myself. I wasn't. I'm not.
Posted by: BurtTC


That shit happens. I'm sorry you're going thru this but painting all women with the same brush is just dumb. My annoyance was with Reuben suggesting that women are all the same. Some broads just like being miserable and making others suffer. Men do that too.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 02:22 PM (Wy1BU)

484 470 Also, my comments are in general, not specific to anyone’s particular situation.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
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One step further and it works for men or women.
Check out both parents, how they act, interact, get along because the spouse and relationship you are observing is what you will marry.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 02:22 PM (ZS+GP)

485 You might not think that respect is something you need to deliver - but that doesn't mean a man doesn't thrive on it. And driven men will get it - even if it means getting from anyone other than you.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 02:17 PM (3hSHB)

Where does honesty factor in?

If the partner won't respect you, and you need to seek that "respect," including in the form of whores, don't you owe the partner the truth?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 02:23 PM (NWBBy)

486 Cherish in the Bible does not mean "treat like a princess." It means to cultivate with love and affection-which is something both partners should be doing.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


May I point you to 1 Thessalonians 2:7-8 where "thalpo"/cherish is also used.

"We were gentle among you, like a nursing mother taking care of her children. So being affectionately desirous of you, we were ready to share with not only the Gospel of God, but also our own selves, because you had become very dear to us."

aka "treat like a princess"

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 02:23 PM (3hSHB)

487 females consider themselves to be princesses and want to be treated accordingly.

I would love to be treated like a princess. I think the old man and I have been together for so long that we're really comfortable with each other and just consider each other good buddies. We'll go out of our way for each other in a crisis, but the rest of the time it's all kind of pro forma.

So when some other opportunity comes around and someone else takes a liking to me and starts treating me like a princess, well it's hard to resist.

and no I'm not married.

Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2022 02:24 PM (fYd9N)

488 That shit happens. I'm sorry you're going thru this but painting all women with the same brush is just dumb. My annoyance was with Reuben suggesting that women are all the same. Some broads just like being miserable and making others suffer. Men do that too.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 02:22 PM (Wy1BU)

Yes, I understand.

We all have our own journeys, our own stories. I try to be honest with myself first, which makes it easier to be honest with everyone else.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 02:25 PM (NWBBy)

489 478 Go Buckeyes
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 02:17 PM (Xrfse)

Beat that school up north.

***and of course, TSUN scores***

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 26, 2022 02:25 PM (CCSxw)

490 Speaking of Lumpia...I had it at a wedding once and thought it was one of the most delicious things I'd ever eaten.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 26, 2022 02:27 PM (EU6HP)

491 The Ohio State could use The Defense.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2022 02:28 PM (ZLI7S)

492 Beat that school up north.

They'd better get their sh*t together soon, or that may not happen. Ugh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 02:29 PM (Xrfse)

493 Where does honesty factor in?

If the partner won't respect you, and you need to seek that "respect," including in the form of whores, don't you owe the partner the truth?


I'm describing the dysfunctional that often occurs when things break down from the optimal order.

If someone wants something bad enough, they will go to whatever lengths to achieve it. Not many people have that much drive, or maybe they put too much into the wrong vector, discovered failure and discontentment and either check out on drugs or suicide.


Others chop their dicks off hoping to that they will get a different hand. Others join gangs or go though a "mid life crisis" or jump from bed to bed thinking that what they want will be found there. I think the military has been a very often utilized ersatz proxy for cultivating some of the things that should be in a marriage but won't happen because the partner has personal reasons for not providing.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 02:29 PM (3hSHB)

494 With my health issues, I have no idea how long I’ll be around. I just got to the point where I didn’t want to live like that anymore. I didn’t snap, I just said enough. We have a detente that seems to be working.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 26, 2022 02:29 PM (u73oe)

495 491 The Ohio State could use The Defense.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2022 02:28 PM (ZLI7S)

Yeah...

This is looking like it's going to be a track meet.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 26, 2022 02:30 PM (CCSxw)

496 The Ohio State could use The Defense.

Yup.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 02:30 PM (Xrfse)

497 Yes, I understand.

We all have our own journeys, our own stories. I try to be honest with myself first, which makes it easier to be honest with everyone else.
Posted by: BurtTC

This is how I know you will come out stronger on the other side. Your journey is vastly different from mine. Someone once told me it's easier to lose a spouse to death than to divorce. I lost one to death at the age of thirty. Never gonna lose one to divorce.
Hubbymayhem is my fortress.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 02:30 PM (Wy1BU)

498 So when some other opportunity comes around and someone else takes a liking to me and starts treating me like a princess, well it's hard to resist.

and no I'm not married.
Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2022 02:24 PM (fYd9N)

Dopamine is real. It's the natural drug our brain craves, and "new love" is a real hit of it. Old love is a slow dose.

Chasing after the big dose is understandable, but it's not sustainable. Which is what makes it so dangerous to our well being, our pursuit of happiness.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 02:30 PM (NWBBy)

499

Jungle Cat's recipe can be deep fried - and she has a way to do it that involves minimal oil time and it does not get soaked through or greasy at all - air fried or the filling can simply be put on rice or eaten like a taco etc.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at November 26, 2022 02:31 PM (yFDQD)

500 aka "treat like a princess"
Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 02:23 PM (3hSHB)

A nursing mother does not treat her daughter as a princess. She provides tenderness, affection, warmth, ease, nourishment and comfort.

Princess implies a level where one is above a commoner, Someone who is perhaps distantly affectionate.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 02:33 PM (vH/6k)

501 This is how I know you will come out stronger on the other side. Your journey is vastly different from mine. Someone once told me it's easier to lose a spouse to death than to divorce. I lost one to death at the age of thirty. Never gonna lose one to divorce.
Hubbymayhem is my fortress.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 02:30 PM (Wy1BU)

Unfortunately I can attest. My first wife died in the early 2000s. I figured I was going to be single the rest of my life, until this one came along.

Whatever else it is, it's excruciatingly painful to have that other person still walking around, living. As cold as that may sound, it's just true.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 02:33 PM (NWBBy)

502 My annoyance was with Reuben suggesting that women are all the same. Some broads just like being miserable and making others suffer.

I apologize if you read that as a universal, broad-brush characterization of all men and all women. Individually we are pastiches of all kinds of influences, motivations, emotions, experiences, values, emotions and intellect.

Out of curiosity, do you give comedians no slack when many go down the common trope of comparing men to women or do you understand that the stereotypes are often found in varying frequencies and intensities if at all?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 02:33 PM (3hSHB)

503 "Speaking of Lumpia...I had it at a wedding once and thought it was one of the most delicious things I'd ever eaten."

Not as good as fried scrapple on a Ritz.

But still pretty good.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 26, 2022 02:34 PM (uLr+K)

504 >>> Whatever else it is, it's excruciatingly painful to have that other person still walking around, living. As cold as that may sound, it's just true.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Maybe a trip to Vegas would help you cut the umbilical.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 02:36 PM (ZS+GP)

505 Princess implies a level where one is above a commoner, Someone who is perhaps distantly affectionate.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 02:33 PM (vH/6k)

Yes, if I'm treating someone else like royalty, I'm essentially saying I am beneath them. This is my view of it. Not necessarily theirs.

There's no way a relationship can be healthy that way.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 02:36 PM (NWBBy)

506 Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 02:36 PM (NWBBy)

Which is why I don't think it's an apt analogy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2022 02:37 PM (vH/6k)

507 Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 02:30 PM (NWBBy)

I'm not a baby, have no illusions about life and go into pretty much every situation clear-eyed.

Chasing after the big dose is understandable

I'm not in the habit of chasing after anything or anybody. In my youth, I pursued one guy. He had the look I needed for a portrait study, so I asked him up to see my etchings.

Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2022 02:38 PM (fYd9N)

508 Not as good as fried scrapple on a Ritz.
But still pretty good.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Nothing like some fresh liver on a Ritz!

Posted by: Ed Gein, white meat enthusiast at November 26, 2022 02:38 PM (yFDQD)

509 Whatever else it is, it's excruciatingly painful to have that other person still walking around, living. As cold as that may sound, it's just true.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Maybe a trip to Vegas would help you cut the umbilical.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 02:36 PM (ZS+GP)

There's no umbilical. All acts at this point are moving away from. Literally and figuratively. But part of the process involves being aware of the part that doesn't go away.

It's like the heroin analogy. If I'm a former user, I don't go around saying "I'm a former addict," that would be dishonest. I say "I don't use anymore, but I'll always be an addict," and mean it. Recognize the part of me that can't let it go entirely, and even the part that doesn't want to.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 02:38 PM (NWBBy)

510 Princess implies a level where one is above a commoner, Someone who is perhaps distantly affectionate.

The women in my life sure as heck expect me to treat them far better than a commoner regardless of whatever level of affection they accord me.

I surely promise you that there will be all levels of deserved domestic strife if I went down the road to wash some other woman's car and clean out her home's gutters - even if I was currently getting the silent treatment for unspecified perceived wrongs.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 26, 2022 02:39 PM (3hSHB)

511 I'm going back to the fire pit and the beer. This is way to heavy for a gorgeous Fall afternoon.

Be happy with yourself or you will never be happy in any relationship. You can thank me later.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2022 02:39 PM (ZLI7S)

512 Out of curiosity, do you give comedians no slack when many go down the common trope of comparing men to women or do you understand that the stereotypes are often found in varying frequencies and intensities if at all?
Posted by: Reuben Hick

I find that line of comedy to be very annoying. I mostly hear it from female comedian who rag on men . I hate that crap. Its part of the reason I hated that tv show Home Improvement. The man was always wrong and the butt of every joke. I know that stereotypes exist for a reason. I choose not to be the stereotype. I choose not to expect it of others.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 02:42 PM (Wy1BU)

513 Never let another human being attempt to redefine who you fundamentally are.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 02:42 PM (Xrfse)

514 >>> Recognize the part of me that can't let it go entirely, and even the part that doesn't want to.
Posted by: BurtTC
--------------------

You'll never have a good relationship with a woman till you let that go.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 02:43 PM (ZS+GP)

515 Chasing after the big dose is understandable
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I'm not in the habit of chasing after anything or anybody.
Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2022 02:38 PM (fYd9N)

Sorry, didn't really mean to imply you were chasing. Just that it's part of the human condition, acknowledging what you were saying about it being hard to resist.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 02:43 PM (NWBBy)

516 Recognize the part of me that can't let it go entirely, and even the part that doesn't want to.
Posted by: BurtTC
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You'll never have a good relationship with a woman till you let that go.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 02:43 PM (ZS+GP)

I don't agree.

It's about being open minded and honest. I basically love every woman I ever dated, I love my late wife, and I love this one. This is about me, and who I am. The next one who comes along, if there is a next one, won't be competing with anybody. There's room in here for one more.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 26, 2022 02:45 PM (NWBBy)

517 Someone say road trip to Vegas? I’m in!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 26, 2022 02:47 PM (u73oe)

518 OSU is starting to gag on a wolverine. Better add some seasoning fellas, or your gonna blow this thing.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 02:48 PM (Xrfse)

519 Buckeyes getting manhandled on the line.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 26, 2022 02:51 PM (u73oe)

520 Women, infatuating women, most recent -

two notches of the wheel downward

https://bit.ly/3rx5BB0

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 02:52 PM (ZS+GP)

521 He does not treat me like a princess.
Posted by: SMH


No one mistakes a tankers helmet for a tiara.

Posted by: DaveA at November 26, 2022 02:52 PM (FhXTo)

522 First time at the S.F. Dickens Fair in 8 years. It used to be an incredible 5 weekend event with ballroom dancing, gals posing in the corset shop window, and rated R entertainment (and suitably restricted to adults). SJWs have utterly wrecked it. They don't even have Queen Victoria and Prince Albert anymore. It's basically a shopping mall.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 26, 2022 02:52 PM (JmkXA)

523 WaPo Drops Hit Piece on Cowboys Owner Jerry Jones Over 65-Year Old Photo, Says He’s Part of a 'Confederacy'

https://tinyurl.com/mpecnj8a

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 02:53 PM (EcuD8)

524 lol DaveA

I would hope not.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 02:54 PM (EcuD8)

525 Oh good, Fascists now Confederacy

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 26, 2022 02:56 PM (xhxe8)

526 WaPo Drops Hit Piece on Cowboys Owner Jerry Jones Over 65-Year Old Photo, Says He’s Part of a 'Confederacy

And that's........... Bad?

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 26, 2022 02:58 PM (Wy1BU)

527 SMH, Happy Birthday!!!!

Posted by: Ben Had at November 26, 2022 03:06 PM (zqi7d)

528 I don't need to be treated like a princess.

But. After doing everything on my own for so long, and being tough for everyone, it would be nice to have a soft place to fall. Someone to support me when I need support. It's tiring always being tough.

My boys freaked out when I was in the cardiac unit for five days. They had never seen me weak.

And. I still had nowhere to land, but on my own two feet and keep providing for them.

It gets tiring.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 03:06 PM (U2p+3)

529 523 WaPo Drops Hit Piece on Cowboys Owner Jerry Jones Over 65-Year Old Photo, Says He’s Part of a 'Confederacy'

https://tinyurl.com/mpecnj8a
Posted by: SMH
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Ten years ago Jerry would have hit them back.
He probably thinks it's not worth the effort today.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 03:06 PM (ZS+GP)

530 Virtual hug to nurse.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 26, 2022 03:08 PM (u73oe)

531 *smiles at Ben Had*

Thanks, big sis.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 03:10 PM (EcuD8)

532 Your sons are lucky to have you, nurse.

Posted by: SMH at November 26, 2022 03:11 PM (EcuD8)

533 Thanks y'all.

It's just,, sometimes women are tough and prickly because there's no other option.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 03:13 PM (U2p+3)

534 Seeing a report a woman was stopped in Florida about to drive a Range Rover into a 5k race crowd

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 26, 2022 03:14 PM (xhxe8)

535 Mike Lindell is going to throw his hat into the ring for chairman of the RNC.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 26, 2022 03:15 PM (3ImbR)

536 I would rather Mike than a politician

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 26, 2022 03:16 PM (xhxe8)

537 535 Mike Lindell is going to throw his hat into the ring for chairman of the RNC.
Posted by: IrishEi at
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He won't get it. He won't even make waves.
It's been rigged ever since Michael Steele beat out Ken Blackwell.
sad

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 03:23 PM (ZS+GP)

538 Michael Steele first Democrat to win RNC chair

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 26, 2022 03:28 PM (xhxe8)

539 *hugs nurse*

Posted by: Ben Had at November 26, 2022 03:33 PM (zqi7d)

540 Earth Now Has 8 Billion Humans. This Man Wishes There Were None.
Les Knight, [is] the founder of the Voluntary Human Extinction movement. _New York Times
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...The woke mind virus has thoroughly penetrated entertainment and is pushing civilization towards suicide.
There needs to be a counter-narrative.
That the mind virus is pushing humanity towards extinction is not hyperbole
_Elon Musk

https://bit.ly/3u0Ydiz

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 03:35 PM (ZS+GP)

541 Maybe next season, Buckeyes.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 26, 2022 03:36 PM (u73oe)

542 WaPo Drops Hit Piece on Cowboys Owner Jerry Jones Over 65-Year Old Photo, Says He’s Part of a 'Confederacy'

https://tinyurl.com/mpecnj8a
Posted by: SMH

I never cared for Jerry Jones because I'm a NY Giants fan (when I followed football) and always hated The Cowboys, but this is one of the sleaziest pieces of "journalism" on a non-politician that I've ever seen, full of nonsense and innuendo.
And about hiring a black coach, the Cowboys had one head coach for the first 30 years or so of their existence.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 26, 2022 03:38 PM (mR6Gs)

543 ..The woke mind virus has thoroughly penetrated entertainment and is pushing civilization towards suicide.
There needs to be a counter-narrative.
That the mind virus is pushing humanity towards extinction is not hyperbole
_Elon Musk

https://bit.ly/3u0Ydiz
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 03:35 PM (ZS+GP)

I like the cut of this man's jib

Posted by: JoeF. at November 26, 2022 03:40 PM (mR6Gs)

544 THE Ohio State got THEIR asses kicked.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 26, 2022 03:46 PM (u73oe)

545 THE Ohio State got THEIR asses kicked.

Yep. As a lifelong fan I am embarrassed. Oh, well...there are much more important things to move on to.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 26, 2022 04:05 PM (Xrfse)

546 In the doldrums of AoSHq I might as well get some book time in

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 26, 2022 04:08 PM (xhxe8)

547 [On] Bartiromo’s Wall Street,” Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-TN) said he believes there is a “highly likely” chance there will be a rail strike in the middle of the holidays.
--
[On] “Fox & Friends,” Rep. Michael Waltz (R-FL) stated that Secretary of State Pete Buttigieg hasn’t had enough involvement in trying to avert a potential rail strike,
--
A rail strike won”t screw up your holidays. Here”s how it”ll affect you in other ways _cnn.com - 4 hours ago
==

Nooooooooooo we're not going to have a rail strike, Uncle Joey fixed it.


Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 04:11 PM (ZS+GP)

548 The Samurai of Japan refused to fall on their swords as they shocked 2014 World Cup champions Germany with a comeback 2-1 win on Wednesday. _France 24
=========

Those little nippers got lags. Nothing is level in Japan everywhere they go is either up or down in the meantime Germans are sitting on their butts in a beerhall.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 26, 2022 04:23 PM (ZS+GP)

549 Posted by: SFGoth at November 26, 2022 02:52 PM (JmkXA)

Wow, what a shame, used to be an awesome event.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 26, 2022 04:39 PM (oHd/0)

550 BEAVERS BEAVERS BEAVERS!

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 26, 2022 06:42 PM (U2p+3)

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