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The Morning Report — 11/14/22

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Good morning, kids. Start of a new week and in the wake of last Tuesday, despite my cockeyed optimism, I'm more depressed than before. If you haven't done so, I encourage you to listen to the latest podcast for the after-action analysis from our cob, friend and polling/elections expert Dave in FL. Incredibly, even with the Senate now effectively lost and our hold on the House tenuous, Dave makes the case that there actually was a red wave election. Hence my cockeyed optimist-tinged state of depression.

When you go to bed more or less expecting upwards of a 250-seat majority in the House and anywhere from 53 to perhaps 55 Senate seats, only to have this farce happen is, to say the least, infuriating. What makes it worse was that we saw this show already two years ago. One's natural instinct is to yell "fraud." And believe me, for sure in many if not most cases, there sure was fraud. But Dave delivers the cold slap in the face that it was the system itself that allowed for this to happen; a system that everywhere we lost where we could have and probably should have won though thoroughly corrupted was perfectly legal. Friend and friend of the blog Michael Walsh had the exact same brainwave:

Forget the nonsense about a "stolen" election; all elections are "stolen," if by stolen you mean that one side won and one side lost, and have been since George Washington Plunkitt was a pup. (For those keeping score at home, Tammany Hall, of which Plunkitt was an outstanding exemplar, was founded by Aaron Burr, the first Democrat Party vice president, national traitor, and murderer of Alexander Hamilton.) Whatever the election rules are—and under our unwieldy system, there are 50 different sets of them—the party that manipulates them best usually wins. And this of course gives the long-practiced Democrats an enormous advantage.

The fundamental principle of all American elections has been to determine as far in advance as possible how many votes the other guy is getting and then come crashing in at the end with overwhelming numbers of newfound votes to close the deal at the finishing bell. You can find them in storerooms, in the trunks of cars; sometimes they fall off trucks, mimeographed and marked in advance to save the poor voter's time. You do whatever it takes, more or less within the limits of the law, and then worry about penalties after the election is safely in the bag. . .

Democratic norms are not perfectly realized anywhere, even in advanced democracies. Access to the electoral arena always has a cost and is never perfectly equal; the scopes and jurisdictions of elective offices are everywhere limited; electoral institutions invariably discriminate against somebody inside or outside the party system; and democratic politics is never quite sovereign but always subject to societal as well as constitutional constraints... There is much room for nuance and ambivalence... [and] bending and circumventing the rules may sometimes be considered “part of the game.”

Part of the game? It is the game. There is no perfect "democracy." The system is, in fact, the steal. . .

. . . That's not the worst of it. Friendly judges across the land threw out challenges to mail-in/absentee ballots on the niggling grounds that they weren't properly executed; worse, "ballot harvesting" allowed dumps of completely untraceable "votes" into random drop boxes, and lax counting regulations (differing from state to state) meant the suspect ballots could be quickly mingled into the legitimate-vote population. Add to that the arbitrary decision regarding the latest moment that ballots could be accepted even after the real polls had closed and you have a recipe for a perfectly legal steal.

So while you’re complaining about the results of the last two elections, remember that in many states votes were cast weeks or even months ago. Those votes heavily favored the Democrats, which in part accounts for the election of a bona fide rutabaga as the new senator from Pennsylvania. Further, as long as one side can mail in—or worse, "discover"—an unlimited number of ballots or votes on thumb drives of uncertain provenance, with little or no chain of custody, and the other side appears in person with ID to vote once on election day (as Republicans tend to do), the former is always going to beat the latter. No cheating necessary! The Steal is built into the system.

Ain't that a kick in the cojones? As Walsh notes, the gaming of the system didn't start with 2020, but it sure was ramped up to eleventy-leven when the General Tso's Sickness became the crisis they just couldn't let go to waste. Human nature being what it is means that individuals who have no morals, ethics or even the slightest compunction to follow agreed upon norms are always going to try and get a leg up. That is, Democrats/Leftists. Perhaps it's just from our own narrow view of our own lifespan and memory does it seem that the ones we are dealing with today are the worst of the worst. And maybe they are. In the good old days of the Daley Machine and LBJ, they were in it for the money. The new batch are infinitely more dangerous because they are changing the laws and gaming the system as "true believers" convinced of having an absolute moral authority and a duty to prevent what they perceive to be existential threats to them, all life on earth and the earth itself from winning elective office — i.e., us. It's not "stealing" an election; it's "fortifying" it to ensure the just and righteous outcome.

So, again, if the system itself was rigged prior to the elections - that is the laws and rules watered down to virtually zero, or changed to allow for ballot dumping and other shenanigans, yet still remaining in place as "laws and rules" - that's neither cheating nor fraud, since it is perfectly legal (to be clear, certain things are technically illegal but the watering down of any sort of normal safeguards makes the illegal aspects that much easier to pull off, harder to prove in courts of law, and with judges more or less on the take up to and including SCOTUS, you get the idea)

At the risk of invoking Godwin's law, when one looks at the criminality of the Nazi regime from 1933-1945, everything they did was an absolute abomination. But, under German law it was perfectly legal. Totalitarian regime though it was, they went out of their way to codify what they wanted to do and ultimately did do so as to give the veneer of being an ordered, civil and legal process. Ironically, this was even part of the defense of many of the indicted war criminals at the Nuremberg trials, above and beyond the "just following orders" schtick. Meh, true believers' gonna believe.

By the way, McGOP has a big hand in sabotaging what happened on Tuesday as well, and that cannot and must not be given short schrift. But I will go into that perhaps later this week, and no doubt Ace and cobs are going to hit that thing harder than a Swalwell on a Chi-Com tootsie.

And yet, cockeyed optimist.

When Election Day became Election Month, mail-in ballots replaced in-person voters, and the electoral world changed forever.  It is not changing back. . .
. . . Clever leftists built a national system, ERIC, now used by about 30 states, to make sure voter rolls protected phantoms.  Using in-your-face messaging, ERIC claimed it was a resource to keep voter rolls clean. 

No friction, no challenge.

After 2020, everything changed. 

The once frictionless ballot-gathering apparatus was challenged in every state as voter integrity teams, citizens at kitchen tables, picked apart voter rolls.  They quickly found tens of thousands of dead or moved voters.  There were innumerable addresses where no voter could possibly live.

For the first time, there was pushback against ballot gathering.  Citizens demanded that voter rolls be cleaned, addresses be real.  In too many cases, affidavits with photographs of an empty lot where several voters claimed to live failed to convince a judge to action.

Not in Wisconsin. A Wisconsin voter integrity team found, after reviewing scores of counties and localities, that the number of ballots and votes cast lined up.

Democrats know how many votes they need and cast them during the forever campaign time in the name of phantoms.  Their ballot inventory comes from real ballots sent to fake addresses, then collected by someone — never a Republican — and voted. . .

. . . Quiet, anonymous Wisconsin heroes — working in a small office, virtually unfunded — proved how to collapse the Democrat ballot-gathering apparatus.

For the ballot-gathering strategy to work, Democrats need tens of thousands of phantom addresses and voters.  A few is not enough.  Without thousands of loose ballots tied to phantoms, the edifice comes crashing down.

They also need Republicans to do nothing.

The Wisconsin team proved, in this election, that adding even a small amount of friction – removing thousands of phantom names and identifying several hundred thousand incorrect addresses — has a massive impact on the ballot-gathering system.

Our Wisconsin election heroes applied Fractal Programming technology, funded by Mike Lindell, at scale to find and challenge phantoms.  The process is explained at www.Omega4America.com. . .

. . . Using Fractal Programming, the Wisconsin team showed the impact of introducing friction into the ballot-gathering system.  Even a little friction, and everything breaks down.  That is leverage, and that leverage is with the good guys.

The Fractal team is working in about twenty states, with a roll-out to all states for 2024.  Right now, Fractal analysis is provided by Mike Lindell and the Fractal team.  It needs to go national — injecting gravel into the Democrat ballot-gathering apparatus.

That is just one group of folks and doubtless there are others. The common denominator of course is that the GOP-e has ZERO to do with it. That party has to be destroyed or it has to be completely taken over and purged of the Democrat confederates and Chamber of Commerce globalist flunkies and stooges that continue to be our greatest obstacle to effectively organizing and fighting back.

Last note of optimism; I agree that there indeed was a red wave. Perhaps even more disaffected Dems than we realized united by the common denominator of seeing their lives and savings wiped out in front of their eyes.

Joey Sponge-Brain Shits-Pants when asked what he plans to do differently in the next two years stated "nothing." Oh boy.

If we can't overcome the cheat factor by sheer numbers, we better start now in the effort to dismantle the system that allows for it. If that is even possible.

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1 WTFO??

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2022 07:46 AM (BRHaw)

2
Good morning, Hordians.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 14, 2022 07:47 AM (MoZTd)

3 Morning Horde!

Posted by: IanDeal at November 14, 2022 07:47 AM (MGjjz)

4 Fresh farzrohr!

Posted by: fd at November 14, 2022 07:47 AM (sn5EN)

5 Yonder Horde.

19 degrees of global warming.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 14, 2022 07:48 AM (Q4IgG)

6
g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 14, 2022 07:48 AM (ENBF0)

7 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at November 14, 2022 07:49 AM (KJeKt)

8 Slow drawstroke. Again.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at November 14, 2022 07:49 AM (MkuC5)

9 Incredibly, even with the Senate now effectively lost and our hold on the House tenuous, Dave makes the case that there actually was a red wave election.



Orwellian new-speak at its finest.

The Red Wave will result in Democrat pick-ups.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 14, 2022 07:49 AM (vwMFL)

10 Some people don't love the USA
For being less than perfect

[that would be Leftists, Kurt. Open wide and get back to that subway toilet glory hole - jjs]

Posted by: Paul [Kurt] at November 14, 2022 07:49 AM (1Uiaz)

11 Good morning, Horde!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 07:49 AM (t0OGg)

12 Depressed? Try living in IL. Where every abortion barbie within 30 miles of Chicago won?

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 07:50 AM (Cw0fX)

13 Iran has arrested more than 15,000 people and is set to begin show trials and executions. Meanwhile, the Junta sends money to Tehran and makes no complaints about the brutal executions.

Congratulations, Democrat voters, you make this continuing disaster of a foreign policy possible.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2022 07:50 AM (MMK1T)

14 mornin' y'all

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclopes at November 14, 2022 07:50 AM (PbwT0)

15 R A W S A L E R T S @rawsalerts · 8h to 6h ago
🚨#UPDATE: the Incident is occurring near the School of Architecture on the campus' northwestern side. With unconfirmed reports suggests multiple people are injured with some fatalities students have been told to ‘shelter in place this is still developing

🚨#UPDATE: Police are describing the possible active shooter as a Black man wearing a Burgundy jacket or hoodie, Blue jeans and red shoes

🚨#UPDATE: UVA Shelter In Place is still in effect. The suspect is still at large Police are saying he's considered armed and dangerous.

🚨#UPDATEolice have confirmed a possible suspect, 22-year-old Christopher Darnell Jones; ‘shelter in place order still in effect on campus

🚨#UPDATE Three people are dead, with two others having injuries. the Shooter is still at large at this time.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 07:51 AM (yikp0)

16 GOP won 2 big called races last night. Az-1 and Oregon 5

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 07:51 AM (Cw0fX)

17 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 14, 2022 07:51 AM (T4tVD)

18 I really miss Rush.

I have said before that I'm a portrait painter and as such I notice details. Although often the Biden figure has different earlobes, this biden has a totally different head shape. Weird.

Posted by: Chillin the most at November 14, 2022 07:51 AM (0uQp2)

19 Dave makes the case that there actually was a red wave election. Hence my cockeyed optimist-tinged state of depression.
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Sadly irrelevant. This isn't a representative government, it's an oligarchy. It really doesn't matter if there's a wave of discontent and dislike flowing through the country. It doesn't matter if it builds and grows, either. The ruling class is well insulated and totally immune to it.

And it will stay that way right up until the moment it doesn't, which will coincide with the system flying into pieces. Dictatorships can't self-correct.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 07:52 AM (t0OGg)

20 #15 Oops. Missed, "3 killed and 2 wounded in shooting late Sunday night at the U. of Virginia; suspect believed to be a student."

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 07:52 AM (yikp0)

21 WATCH: 70,000 Fans Sing ‘Take Me Home, Country Roads’ At NFL’s First Regular-Season Game In Germany

GREAT ! They ALL wanna come here !

Posted by: JT at November 14, 2022 07:52 AM (T4tVD)

22 This is how you fight election fraud although, admittedly, the warm weather helps.

https://twitter.com/RenatoDelSanto/status/
1591459442146611201

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 07:52 AM (yikp0)

23 On the topic of political machines dominating recent election cycles, particularly 2020 where they were essential to fraud, their fervent and collective opposition was somewhat new. For a long time I though the Ds were making their move for permanent power, but they screwed up the follow up.

What likely caused them to become so active and hostile is the anti-corruption aspects of Trump's. We may be able to drop parts of it that we don't care too much about it:

1. Ban on earmarks (already reinstituted under Biden)
2. Prohibition on becoming a lobbyist for a # of years

and also potentially add some sort of large boondoggle, call it Urban Reconstruction or something, to defang them.

Either way, if we want to build political machines in other areas, that generally accompanies corruption and associated expenses.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 07:54 AM (eYoxG)

24
WATCH: 70,000 Fans Sing ‘Take Me Home, Country Roads’ At NFL’s First Regular-Season Game In Germany

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John Denver, lol?! And the NFL gets even gayer.

*SMDH*

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 14, 2022 07:54 AM (oINRc)

25 Hoping ya all can confirm this, but it was the AZ GOP who passed mail in balloting, thinking it would help them with Seniors?

Maricopa Recorder and County chairman, both GOP, started a F$#cking PAC last yearthat is Anti Maga?

AZ GOP wins 6 out of 9 house seats, Treasurer, State House and Senate, but Lake is in trouble? WTF

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 07:54 AM (Cw0fX)

26 Morning, Horde.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 14, 2022 07:54 AM (CO3WZ)

27 So all of that federal $$$ for Ukraine for the war was actually a stealth way to fund democrat campaigns with literally billions of dollars laundered through Ukraine then FTX and back to democrats.


Pretty fvcking good plan if you ask me.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 14, 2022 07:54 AM (bVYXr)

28 Nothing more frustrating than waiting for election results where you know the delays are due to 'finding' enough ballots to make the Dem 'win'. Also frustrating to know that, whatever wave is starting against Mitch McConnell for overseeing this debacle, will also subside with him still in power.

Is it too much to ask Trump to join forces with Hawley, Rubio and pull in both DeSantis and Youngkin attack the rotten GOP leadership instead of each other?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 14, 2022 07:54 AM (fs1hN)

29 Glove worn by Babe Ruth during his days with the Yankees sells for over $1.5-million at auction.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 07:54 AM (yikp0)

30 ... and then come crashing in at the end with overwhelming numbers of newfound votes to close the deal at the finishing bell. You can find them in storerooms, in the trunks of cars; sometimes they fall off trucks, mimeographed and marked in advance to save the poor voter's time.

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Nothing saves "voters'" time like thumb drives and "hacked" voting machine software, comrades!

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 14, 2022 07:54 AM (K3TEc)

31 "' I’m making sure he, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again.' How can he make sure of that? He didn’t say, and of course the sycophants didn’t ask. But Biden’s remark was in keeping with his fascist agenda. Fascist? Yes."

Spencer obviously refers to the coming indictments against PDJT, expected now within weeks. They want him to make his run for President from a prison cell.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2022 07:55 AM (MMK1T)

32 Forget the nonsense about a "stolen" election; all elections are "stolen," if by stolen you mean that one side won and one side lost ...
... determine as far in advance as possible how many votes the other guy is getting and then come crashing in at the end with overwhelming numbers of newfound votes to close the deal at the finishing bell. You can find them in storerooms, in the trunks of cars; sometimes they fall off trucks, mimeographed and marked in advance to save the poor voter's time. You do whatever it takes, more or less within the limits of the law ...

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Bullshit. Contradicted in his own column immediately, right there. That shit isn't "more or less within the limits of the law," it's criminal. It's fraud. Full damn stop. Election fraud isn't just electronic chicanery and legislative overreach. What Walsh is describing here is black-letter fraud.

The Democrats do this extensively with cheat-by-mail schemes. Yes, they do micro-targeting and it is likely at least somewhat effective, but they also harvest ballots, intimidate voters, "help" people fill out the ballots, target institutional populations, mule votes around, etc. That's criminal almost everywhere.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 07:55 AM (t0OGg)

33 Six confirmed dead in Dallas airshow crash.

R.I.P.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 07:55 AM (yikp0)

34 Well better late than never discovering how easy our elections are to manipulate. Something the Democrats have been using for several elections and we're just now catching up. Can we please dispense with the receptiveness around here of how stupid and disorganized the left/Democrats are? Clearly the "idiots" are us or are we just that slow on the uptake?

Posted by: JROD at November 14, 2022 07:55 AM (IlL6s)

35 Thankfully, Va has A Governor Youngkin, to sort out this shooting

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 07:56 AM (Cw0fX)

36 Josh Hawley joins us "Doomers".

"The old party is dead. Time to bury it. Build something new," Hawley tweeted in response to Republican Adam Laxalt losing the Nevada Senate race to Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto’s (D-NV).


https://tinyurl.com/5bck597k

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 14, 2022 07:56 AM (vwMFL)

37 33. RIP +

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 07:56 AM (Cw0fX)

38 Robbery 'suspect' and grocery store clerk shoot and kill each other during holdup in Chicago.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 07:56 AM (yikp0)

39 "Walker should win the runoff - jjs"

What do you base that on? I have zero confidence. He is running against the Uniparty.

Posted by: fd at November 14, 2022 07:56 AM (sn5EN)

40 I have recovered from a mystery virus just in time to go to work. yay

Posted by: NR Pax at November 14, 2022 07:57 AM (4olE8)

41 That's not the worst of it. Friendly judges across the land threw out challenges ...

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"U.S. States have no standing. Next!" -- SCOTUS 2020, including Trump's three "Justice" appointees

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 14, 2022 07:57 AM (K3TEc)

42 13. The Saudi's are tougher on Iran, than we are

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 07:57 AM (Cw0fX)

43 The Dems will give up control of the House to claim that the election is fair. They don't care if the GOP has a slim majority. The GOP will flounder around and the Dems will claim GOP intransigence is the reason things are so bad. They control the Senate and can pass nominations with impunity. Meanwhile, they hammer Trump as a loser and knock off a few candidates they didn't want to win. It is a win for them all around for the Uniparty.

Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud at November 14, 2022 07:58 AM (EpDzw)

44 32 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 07:55 AM (t0OGg)


Well, Joe, if no one has the compunction to actually stop it - physically or via litigation - then it's an exercise in semantics.

And at that point, we are no longer a civil society. Which we are obviously not.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 07:58 AM (x0n13)

45 ICYMI: Dave in Fla prediction for 2024:

President: Whitmer wins all blue states, plus PA, MI, WI, MN, NV, and AZ

Senate: GOP may pick up MT and WV

House: Democrats take control back

GOP is completely fractured by the Trump vs Establishment Candidate (to be named)

Until the GOP shows that they can even play this game, those predictions are going to hold. I'll let you know if anything changes my mind.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 07:58 AM (5p7BC)

46 The Saudi's are tougher on Iran, than we are
Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 07:57 AM (Cw0fX)

Closer to the danger

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 14, 2022 07:58 AM (dO/0d)

47 What do you base that on?

Posted by: fd at November 14, 2022 07:56 AM (sn5EN)



Hopium.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 14, 2022 07:58 AM (vwMFL)

48 "But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,"

1 Peter 3:15

Posted by: Marcus T at November 14, 2022 07:58 AM (TbpGr)

49 39 "Walker should win the runoff - jjs"

What do you base that on? I have zero confidence. He is running against the Uniparty.
Posted by: fd at November 14, 2022 07:56 AM (sn5EN)


Won't matter if he does since Laxalt "lost."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 07:58 AM (x0n13)

50 Hey JJ, thought you might like this. From White Supremacist conspiracy theory site MSN:

"Bush, Obama Holding Conferences Highlighting Threats of ‘Disinformation’ Immediately After Trump’s ‘Big’ Announcement"

..Bush and Obama did not coordinate the timing of their conferences, both of which will focus on “highlighting rising threats from authoritarianism[b/] and disinformation — and how to combat them globally and at home,” according to the outlet."

https://tinyurl.com/2xwjzhwg

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 14, 2022 07:58 AM (VAy+Y)

51 So, again, if the system itself was rigged prior to the elections - that is the laws and rules watered down to virtually zero, or changed to allow for ballot dumping and other shenanigans, yet still remaining in place as "laws and rules" - that's neither cheating nor fraud, since it is perfectly legal ...
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Only in some places. Sure, in CA, most of this shit is legal. Even in other cheat-by-mail jurisdictions, it isn't. In CO, for example (as of my last election there, anyway), it is a cheat-by-mail state but muling and harvesting are illegal. Only you or an immediate family member are allowed to drop off your ballot. Doesn't mean a thing. They harvest and mule the vote anyway and target people - often with intimidation - to accept "help" getting the ballot filled out. It's illegal, but it's common.

And that's fraud. Outside of a few places that allow these outrageous behaviors by law (CA comes to mind), the fraud is rampant because those things are illegal. This isn't being more effective in getting ballot numbers up, it's criminal. That doesn't negate the rest of the observations, but calling it non-fraudulent just because the Dems are good at it is baloney.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 07:58 AM (t0OGg)

52 .

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 14, 2022 07:59 AM (VAy+Y)

53 The Federal Government Only Exists To Take Your Money And Give It To Others To Buy Votes, Favors And Sex.

Never Give Up Your Guns!

Rootin For Putin!

Free Buffalo Guy!

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 14, 2022 07:59 AM (NJQ2Z)

54 Turkish police arrest suspect in Istanbul bomb attack that left 6 dead and 81 wounded/injured.

Turks claim it was a woman working for PKK/PYD Kurdish separatists, left the bomb in a bag near the bench she was sitting at and walked away without it. [PKK - the 'bad Kurds' -- Stalinists IIRC.]

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 07:59 AM (yikp0)

55 Watched Chappelle the next day for the awful SNL. He was great, but the cast is snowflake pathetic.

did not like his diggs on Herschel Walker, but him talking jews and using the N-word must have put the woke into depression

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 07:59 AM (Cw0fX)

56 Congratulations, Democrat voters, you make this continuing disaster of a foreign policy possible.
___________

What? Who the f*ck cares? Just keep the spice (EBT, drugs, Netflix, TikTok, etc.) flowing.
-Dem voters

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 14, 2022 07:59 AM (fs1hN)

57 Today is National Pickle Day.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 14, 2022 08:00 AM (NpAcC)

58 Democrats know how many votes they need and cast them during the forever campaign time in the name of phantoms. Their ballot inventory comes from real ballots sent to fake addresses, then collected by someone — never a Republican — and voted.
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But that's not fraud, right? I hear that's just "playing the game better."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:00 AM (t0OGg)

59 That's criminal almost everywhere.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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If it is never enforced, is it a crime?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 08:00 AM (5p7BC)

60 45 ICYMI: Dave in Fla prediction for 2024:

President: Whitmer wins all blue states, plus PA, MI, WI, MN, NV, and AZ

Senate: GOP may pick up MT and WV

House: Democrats take control back

GOP is completely fractured by the Trump vs Establishment Candidate (to be named)

Until the GOP shows that they can even play this game, those predictions are going to hold. I'll let you know if anything changes my mind.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 07:58 AM (5p7BC)

So essentially the GOP loses the 2024 Presidential election. I believe that's the most likely case as well, it's not possible in 2 years to build the kind of party infrastructure needed to go pound for pound. I don't think it matters too much if the GOP is fractured or united.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 08:00 AM (eYoxG)

61 I can no longer support or live in a country that elects a Fetterman to the US Senate. Looking into Poland as a domicile.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 14, 2022 08:00 AM (pb6ET)

62 If the GOP was a true representative party it would learn PDQ how to game the system, how to out-cheat the Democrats. But it's not. It's a tissue paper façade.

Either the GOP has to be recast or the election and voting systems have to. Probably both. Otherwise this shit just keeps on keeping on.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 14, 2022 08:01 AM (Q4IgG)

63 I have recovered from a mystery virus just in time to go to work. yay
Posted by: NR Pax
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If you're salaried. NR P, phone in and say you think you're recovering from WuFlu and you need an extra day "but [cough, cough] I can come into work if you really, really need me!"

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 08:01 AM (yikp0)

64 LMAO, it's only a crime if you get caught!

Posted by: JROD at November 14, 2022 08:01 AM (IlL6s)

65 Well, Joe, if no one has the compunction to actually stop it - physically or via litigation - then it's an exercise in semantics.

And at that point, we are no longer a civil society. Which we are obviously not.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 07:58 AM (x0n13)
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Sure, that's a fair point. But to argue that these elections aren't stolen is also an argument in semantics in that case. You're right - and you know I've been on the "we're post-law now" bandwagon for quite some time now - but calling this a difference in playing skill rather than fraud is preposterous when it comes to most races.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:02 AM (t0OGg)

66 The Democrats do this extensively with cheat-by-mail schemes. Yes, they do micro-targeting and it is likely at least somewhat effective, but they also harvest ballots, intimidate voters, "help" people fill out the ballots, target institutional populations, mule votes around, etc. That's criminal almost everywhere.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 07:55 AM (t0OGg)

I think he is scared to admit that. If he does then there are two choices. One is to cheat like the Dems do. I have no doubt if we did, the law would come crashing down on our side. The J6 trials would look like slightly flawed justice in comparison. The second is to admit the Republic is dead and search for a new solution.

Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud at November 14, 2022 08:02 AM (EpDzw)

67 "Today is National Pickle Day.
Posted by: redridinghood"

You wouldn't be gherkin us around, would you?

Posted by: fd at November 14, 2022 08:02 AM (sn5EN)

68 It's so easy to get our hopes up each election, because it feels like momentum is swingin our way. But it's an illusion. It feels a little bit like a battered spouse, you keep going back, hoping this time will be different, only to get your ass kicked even harder. Better to just cut ties and move on.

It's funny, I have resigned myself to realizing that our country, the way we once knew it is gone, and it's kind of (sadly) freeing.

Posted by: spypeach at November 14, 2022 08:02 AM (UuB/1)

69 Good morning horde

Amazing me Republican loss is blamed on them yet Mail voting is what wins the prize

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 14, 2022 08:02 AM (ie5So)

70 Only in some places. Sure, in CA, most of this shit is legal. Even in other cheat-by-mail jurisdictions, it isn't. In CO, for example (as of my last election there, anyway), it is a cheat-by-mail state but muling and harvesting are illegal. Only you or an immediate family member are allowed to drop off your ballot. Doesn't mean a thing. They harvest and mule the vote anyway and target people - often with intimidation - to accept "help" getting the ballot filled out. It's illegal, but it's common.
And that's fraud. Outside of a few places that allow these outrageous behaviors by law (CA comes to mind), the fraud is rampant because those things are illegal. This isn't being more effective in getting ballot numbers up, it's criminal. That doesn't negate the rest of the observations, but calling it non-fraudulent just because the Dems are good at it is baloney.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 07:58 AM (t0OGg)
We aren't likely to be able to start inflicting punishments for fraud, so either we need their political machines to hold fire or we need our own, or some combination of both.

Most of these people are in it for the graft, meaning they can be bought.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 08:02 AM (eYoxG)

71 49. It matters JJ. Every seat counts for 2024(Yes I know), Dems have a bad senate map in 24, Manchin and Tester are running in no mail or harvesting states.

I was really depressed on Sat night, becuase i thought laxalt would win, especially after GOP won Governor there

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:02 AM (Cw0fX)

72 Spencer obviously refers to the coming indictments against PDJT, expected now within weeks. They want him to make his run for President from a prison cell.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2022 07:55 AM


Pretty sure there will be indictments. The biden administration wanted to see how well Trump endorsements fared in the midterms.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 14, 2022 08:03 AM (bVYXr)

73 Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 07:58 AM (5p7BC)

So, more coffee, right?

Posted by: dantesed at November 14, 2022 08:03 AM (88xKn)

74 The crooks are killing the goose that lays the golden eggs as they take total control of the goose in order to get the golden eggs.

Posted by: davidt at November 14, 2022 08:03 AM (oTZbj)

75 If it is never enforced, is it a crime?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 08:00 AM (5p7BC)
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Yes. These behaviors are illegal. Just because the law enforcement apparatus is *never* brought to bear on it, it's still illegal and it's still fraud.

And the best way I can think of to change that is to do it ourselves. The Republicans need to cheat mercilessly from now on. Play the same games. Target the same people. Go steal those ballots, fill them out for Republicans and mule them to drop boxes. Play the same game and watch how quickly those laws are remembered.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:03 AM (t0OGg)

76 ... then it's an exercise in semantics.
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Sure, blame the Joooos, JJ.

You turned into CBD so slowly, I hardly noticed.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 08:03 AM (yikp0)

77 Montana GOP has to figure out how to get rid of the libeterian. That is how Tester wins every election.

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:03 AM (Cw0fX)

78 The second is to admit the Republic is dead and search for a new solution.
Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud at November 14, 2022 08:02 AM (EpDzw)

This is the ideal solution, as time passes more people are corrupted by our education system and American capability declines.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 08:04 AM (eYoxG)

79 Today is National Pickle Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 14, 2022 08:00 AM (NpAcC)

Keep it out of the pickle slicer.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 14, 2022 08:04 AM (4I/2K)

80 Biden said the United States is “on track” to achieve its pledge of cutting emissions 50-52 percent below 2005 levels by 2030.

Easy Peasy: Cut Per cap GDP by 50%.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2022 08:04 AM (BRHaw)

81 65 . . . calling this a difference in playing skill rather than fraud is preposterous when it comes to most races.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:02 AM (t0OGg)


I agree and here's the rub. If our side did exactly what theirs did, we'd be the ones arrested and sent to prison for decades.

We are a banana republic.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 08:04 AM (x0n13)

82 There's a lot more to the FTX story than just a corrupt nerd stealing people's money and it goes a long way toward explaining the left's obsessive demands that we funnel billions in untraced money to Ukraine.

And yes, our elections in many states are corrupt. Call it a steal or rigging or whatever term you prefer but what is happening in places like AZ and PA is an abomination and it is corrupt.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 08:04 AM (ZLI7S)

83 Walker will lose. Georgia MAGAs have seen this before. And will stay home. This will be a national trend in 24. Trump DiSantis, doesn’t matter.

Other guys who should be looking for a new career: pollsters. Voter opinion is irrelevant to election results

Posted by: Polls are for Strippers guy at November 14, 2022 08:04 AM (PgNEa)

84 >"Walker should win the runoff - jjs"


Like the red wave, control of Congress, AZ governor-to-be Kari Lake, Oz in PA...

Posted by: DB at November 14, 2022 08:04 AM (geLO8)

85 Powerball tickets involve dozens of states, hundreds of thousands of terminals, tens of thousands of minimum-wage, lightly-trained clerks selling and redeeming ticekts.

Not once has there been a dispute about counterfeit tickets, fraud etc. Winners are located/identified typically within hours despite hundreds of millions of entries sold.

The technology exists - and has existed - to conduct accurate elections with an unbroken audit trail no matter how long early voting lasts.

Politicians and bureaucrats not only adhere to outdated systems and/or systems easily overwhelmed by the most basic fraud, they also refuse to implement the most basic reforms and protections.

Posted by: Patchy at November 14, 2022 08:05 AM (I/Pe0)

86 Joe Mannix - There are things that can be done to match the Dem fraud machine. Things that are not illegal. There was NO GOTV in this cycle.

Whether it is fraud or not, the Democrats are getting their voters to vote where they need it. And the result is an election that defies all historical models. Never in history has a party gotten a +5 result in voting, and not won seats.

I can think of a dozen things that can be done to get our voters to the polls legally. But it is pointless if the GOP won't do their point. This is their JOB and they didn't do it.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 08:05 AM (5p7BC)

87 I agree and here's the rub. If our side did exactly what theirs did, we'd be the ones arrested and sent to prison for decades.

We are a banana republic.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 08:04 AM (x0n13)
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Yup. Like I just put it in my reply to DiF, "Play the same game and watch how quickly those laws are remembered."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:05 AM (t0OGg)

88 Looks like Kari Lake lost. Quell surprise. You don’t even have to campaign if you are a democrat.

Posted by: Piper at November 14, 2022 08:06 AM (ZdaMQ)

89 Don't care how its worded. It is voter/electoral fraud.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 14, 2022 08:06 AM (PWvcU)

90 Play the same game and watch how quickly those laws are remembered.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:03 AM (t0OGg)

See me at 81. They control most of the courts as well as the media and the law enforcement bureaucracy. They'd prosecute us while counting their dumped ballots.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 08:06 AM (x0n13)

91 do their part, I hate misspellings.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 08:06 AM (5p7BC)

92 Karma works in a strange ways. Dems were arrogant and riding high in October 2020. Boom, then Ginsberg passes

Biden's signature move of Student loan debt, gets nuked by a Trump judge.

Biden has had much luck lately......

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:07 AM (Cw0fX)

93 Today is National Pickle Day.

Well, the country is in a real pickle so seems appropriate.

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at November 14, 2022 08:07 AM (nxdel)

94
Bullshit. Contradicted in his own column immediately, right there. That shit isn't "more or less within the limits of the law," it's criminal. It's fraud. Full damn stop. Election fraud isn't just electronic chicanery and legislative overreach. What Walsh is describing here is black-letter fraud.

The Democrats do this extensively with cheat-by-mail schemes. Yes, they do micro-targeting and it is likely at least somewhat effective, but they also harvest ballots, intimidate voters, "help" people fill out the ballots, target institutional populations, mule votes around, etc. That's criminal almost everywhere.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 07:55 AM (t0OGg)
The vote by mail and ballot harvesting system IS designed to elect Democrats but there is a LOT of outright cheating(eg Dominion) to 'fortify' that system.
The cheaters rightly anticipated that there was/is still a sizable portion of the American population that does not want to be ass-raped by Communism so.....yes, the VBM and ballot system design helps the Dems substantially but who thinks the cheaters leave it that?. ...that the ONLY way they are winning is VBM and ballot harvesting???.

Posted by: Voter theater. at November 14, 2022 08:07 AM (/dlEP)

95 Nope. Campaigning not necessary.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 14, 2022 08:07 AM (PWvcU)

96 Joe Mannix - There are things that can be done to match the Dem fraud machine. Things that are not illegal. There was NO GOTV in this cycle.

Whether it is fraud or not, the Democrats are getting their voters to vote where they need it. And the result is an election that defies all historical models. Never in history has a party gotten a +5 result in voting, and not won seats.

I can think of a dozen things that can be done to get our voters to the polls legally. But it is pointless if the GOP won't do their point. This is their JOB and they didn't do it.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 08:05 AM (5p7BC)
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I don't disagree at all on the GOTV part of this, where the GOP had no strategy at all because they didn't want one. That's the last thing they want.

But even if they did, I doubt we're overcoming the fraud aspect of it in any cheat-by-mail state. Not without getting muddy right there with them and cheating our asses off. I think that should happen. There are no rules, so if they cheat then we should cheat, too.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:07 AM (t0OGg)

97 gooder and real fucking harderer!

Many Germans are taking public courses on how to survive a dark and cold winter caused by the foolish climate and energy policies of their elected leaders. The French TV channel Euronews reported Saturday that “a growing number of Germans are turning to citizens’ courses to learn how to act if they find themselves plunged into darkness.”

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2022 08:07 AM (BRHaw)

98 Xi and Biden had a private meeting.

Can't wait to find out the result.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2022 08:08 AM (H+Odz)

99 See me at 81. They control most of the courts as well as the media and the law enforcement bureaucracy. They'd prosecute us while counting their dumped ballots.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 08:06 AM (x0n13)
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No doubt. Banana Republic.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:08 AM (t0OGg)

100 Todays GOP exists simply to negotiate the terms of surrender. Until McDaniel, McConnell and McCarthy are gone, nothing will change. There isn't an ounce of courage in the entire caucus. All you have to do is say "election denier" and they run and hide like the obsequious, servile charlatans they really are.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 14, 2022 08:08 AM (TbpGr)

101 88 Looks like Kari Lake lost. Quell surprise. You don’t even have to campaign if you are a democrat.
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AZ republicans did decent overall, which tells me the R party in AZ was complicit in the fraud against her.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 14, 2022 08:08 AM (fs1hN)

102 I like the part where Trump will be blamed for the Senate loss while McConnell actively backed Murkowski, told Arizona to get f_cked, and didn't create a written plan to deal with inflation.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 14, 2022 08:08 AM (VAy+Y)

103 As bad as it was, we are on the verge of winning the house.

some people act like it is 2008 in here

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:08 AM (Cw0fX)

104 Looks like Kari Lake lost. Quell surprise. You don’t even have to campaign if you are a democrat.
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Or debate etc.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 08:09 AM (yikp0)

105 I listened to the podcast with Dave in FL over the weekend. My takeaway: You don’t want to use the word “stolen”… okay, they’re rigged. That’s the word Molly Hemingway uses. Whatever word you wanna use, elections in this country are now unfair (primarily due to VBM) and inconsistent with our electoral traditions going back to the founding (election season vs election DAY). The whole argument that our side should now start manipulating the system seems wrong. Clean up the rules like they did in Florida…. That is the road to take

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 14, 2022 08:09 AM (xT8gx)

106 96 There are no rules, so if they cheat then we should cheat, too.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:07 AM (t0OGg)


Oh yes indeed there are rules. They make them up and they enforce them.

That said, I would not be averse to doing what they do IF I knew I could get away with it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 08:09 AM (x0n13)

107 But even if they did, I doubt we're overcoming the fraud aspect of it in any cheat-by-mail state. Not without getting muddy right there with them and cheating our asses off. I think that should happen. There are no rules, so if they cheat then we should cheat, too.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:07 AM (t0OGg)

Empirically in CA, the feared "they'll just arrest us" doesn't really seem to come through. Unfortunately the elements of the Rs haven't mastered the tricks yet relative to the Ds, but Chinese Rs seem to be more open to this sort of activity and are leading the charge in Orange County and New York.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 08:09 AM (eYoxG)

108 Reposted from below:

I am tired of the "NY Post " screeching about "Trump backed candidates lost!!!!" & "Trump is boring!!" Good grief, they sound like spurned high school girls. If they wanted to deflate Trump they should have just ignored him.

Oh, yes the liberal-I would not call him a screeching leftist- on the radio thinks that Kari Lake is crazy and laments that she might never concede. Well, if she thinks she won and was cheated why should she.?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 14, 2022 08:10 AM (vH/6k)

109 They don't like the word stolen. So I use stolen.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 14, 2022 08:10 AM (PWvcU)

110 Many Germans are taking public courses on how to survive a dark and cold winter caused by the foolish climate and energy policies of their elected leaders. The French TV channel Euronews reported Saturday that “a growing number of Germans are turning to citizens’ courses to learn how to act if they find themselves plunged into darkness.”
_____________

Anyone else noticing the US Govt ads for "citizens' preparedness"? Pack an emergency bag, have an escape plan, etc.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 14, 2022 08:11 AM (fs1hN)

111 >>Whether it is fraud or not, the Democrats are getting their voters to vote where they need it. And the result is an election that defies all historical models. Never in history has a party gotten a +5 result in voting, and not won seats.

I don't think that is altogether true. I don't think it's a coincidence that in PA they run out of ballots but only in Republican districts. I don't think it's a coincidence that in Republican districts in AZ 25% of the voting machines go down on election day and then the Kelly campaign sues to prevent extended voting times.

Yes, GOTV needs to be improved but as long as Democrats are allowed to control the process they will still cheat. I have zero doubt that even with increased early voting GOTV efforts Democrats will find a way to miscount or "lose" Republican votes where they can.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 08:11 AM (ZLI7S)

112 103 As bad as it was, we are on the verge of winning the house.

some people act like it is 2008 in here
Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:08 AM (Cw0fX)

The results are terrible for R+5, in an environment generally favorable for Rs. That doesn't bode well for R+1, R-1, or R-5 elections, which will happen.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 08:11 AM (eYoxG)

113 Someone else agrees PDT is shit: "SEN. SCHUMER: "There are 3 things that helped the Senate secure the majority: 1, our terrific candidates. 2, our agenda and our accomplishments. & 3, the American people rejected the anti-democratic, extremist MAGA Republicans."

And GOPe too:
Former Vice President Pence on Trump tweeting he 'didn't have courage' on Jan. 6: "It angered me. [...] It doesn't take courage to break the law. It takes courage to uphold the law. The president's words were reckless."

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 08:11 AM (yikp0)

114 Yes, hopefully 2022 proves to be the year political polling dies a long overdue death. Also, I think enough words have been written towards demonstrating that the Democrats cheat. The case has been made. I need no further convincing.
Let's concentrate on how to reverse things.

Posted by: DB at November 14, 2022 08:12 AM (geLO8)

115 Let's be pragmatic, and see what a GOP House does, narrow or not. I will start.

1. Charge of floor votes and House rules, partisan Sgt in Arms gets fired. Any others ?

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:13 AM (Cw0fX)

116
do their part, I hate misspellings.


What the hell did I do to you?

Posted by: Miss Spellings at November 14, 2022 08:13 AM (y3pKJ)

117 If it is never enforced, is it a crime?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 08:00 AM (5p7BC)
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Yes. These behaviors are illegal. Just because the law enforcement apparatus is *never* brought to bear on it, it's still illegal and it's still fraud.

And the best way I can think of to change that is to do it ourselves. The Republicans need to cheat mercilessly from now on. Play the same games. Target the same people. Go steal those ballots, fill them out for Republicans and mule them to drop boxes. Play the same game and watch how quickly those laws are remembered.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:03 AM (t0OGg)
You are likely correct however since it wont be an 'election' but rather cheat versus cheat that will evolve to strongman versus strongman .....then those wont be fireworks you hear at election time.
It will be Violence all the way up and down the strong man food chain.

Posted by: Voter theater. at November 14, 2022 08:13 AM (/dlEP)

118 As bad as it was, we are on the verge of winning the house. ...
Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:08 AM (Cw0fX)
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Which is probably the ideal outcome for both parties. A weak GOP barely-there majority that will let most of what the Dems want to happen get done anyway and make sure there is no fight over the ersatz "budget" or debt ceiling when the time comes.

The best potential outcome now, in my opinion, isn't in terms of governance but in terms of intra-party politics. If the MAGA factions in each chamber can make this a personal loss for the Macs in charge, then I will at least manage a wry smile.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:13 AM (t0OGg)

119 "“a growing number of Germans are turning to citizens’ courses to learn how to act if they find themselves plunged into darkness.”

Learn to grope.

Posted by: fd at November 14, 2022 08:13 AM (sn5EN)

120 As bad as it was, we are on the verge of winning the house.

some people act like it is 2008 in here

Posted by: Jonah

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You mean right before the last time the Republicans clearly demonstrated what they thought of the hoi-polloi (R) voters who were getting uppity about taxes, illegals, environmental regulations, and wars?

Yes. You're 100% correct.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 14, 2022 08:13 AM (VAy+Y)

121 Większość Polaków kocha swój kraj.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Likes Poland at November 14, 2022 08:13 AM (pb6ET)

122 114. Trafalgar might as well hang it up. or just poll red states

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:13 AM (Cw0fX)

123 "Xi and Biden had a private meeting.

Can't wait to find out the result."


Me too!!

Posted by: Jo-Jo Biden , President Select at November 14, 2022 08:13 AM (1n+EO)

124 Pence can't win the nom, so not sure what he's gonna be doing in the race...if GOPe hates Trump, DeSantis, and Youngkin (which seems to be the case after last week's media extravaganza), but thinks Pence will rally everyone together...ummmm, maybe they do know how to rig the system, b/c that's the only way he'll get a single delegate...

Posted by: Nova local at November 14, 2022 08:13 AM (exHjb)

125 By any means necessary. It also includes elections. These fuckers use any and every trick in the book. They know nobody will do anything.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 14, 2022 08:14 AM (PWvcU)

126 And GOPe too:
Former Vice President Pence on Trump tweeting he 'didn't have courage' on Jan. 6: "It angered me. [...] It doesn't take courage to break the law. It takes courage to uphold the law. The president's words were reckless."
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 08:11 AM (yikp0)
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Fuck that guy. It does take courage to break the law - if you're not a Prog.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:14 AM (t0OGg)

127 Each state and county has local battlefield conditions, which is why political machines are local. The organic way to build them is to elect ruthless but loyal to constituent grifters for local office. Gotta be able to tolerate your own candidate's wrongdoings as well. 10% for the big guy doesn't put off the Ds.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 08:14 AM (eYoxG)

128 Putting on industrial fans to blow away the smell of the khakis and white shirts and the tiki torches . . .

I really think we NEED President DJT to untangle our involvements with stray wars; most of all the very real threat of thermonuclear blowup with other proxy fighters. International diplomacy is a good thing as practiced by an experienced realist.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 14, 2022 08:14 AM (MIKMs)

129 102 I like the part where Trump will be blamed for the Senate loss while McConnell actively backed Murkowski, told Arizona to get f_cked, and didn't create a written plan to deal with inflation.



Or include any values messaging in the campaigning.

Me: They are cutting off children's body parts, beheading infants, and hiring trannies to do strip-tease acts in Kindergarten classes.

The GOP: Did you notice how much gas costs?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 14, 2022 08:14 AM (vwMFL)

130 Gas seems to be creeping up again now that the election is over. No doubt inflation will climb too after slight drop . No solution possible now except for the Fed to crash the economy. Can't wait for the Dems to start the "everything was fine and rosy until the Republicans took over the House" for 2024. Yes, half the country will gladly believe this BS and vote for even more pain.

Posted by: Ripley at November 14, 2022 08:15 AM (MxEKc)

131 Well, we've gone from 36 to 42 degrees since sunrise.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 14, 2022 08:16 AM (1n+EO)

132 You are likely correct however since it wont be an 'election' but rather cheat versus cheat that will evolve to strongman versus strongman .....then those wont be fireworks you hear at election time.
It will be Violence all the way up and down the strong man food chain.
Posted by: Voter theater. at November 14, 2022 08:13 AM (/dlEP)
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Eventually, yes. That's the historical norm and there's no reason to suspect that we'll be any different.

The upshot is that you end up in that spot even without competitive cheating. The future is increasingly fixed and known. The timing, as always, is the variable. Right now, I'd bet that there is a solid 10 years, maybe 20 before breakdowns start getting serious.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:16 AM (t0OGg)

133 If you're salaried. NR P, phone in and say you think you're recovering from WuFlu and you need an extra day "but [cough, cough] I can come into work if you really, really need me!"
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 08:01 AM (yikp0)


I am but we have a lot of folks on the team that call out on a regular basis. And I already had a test for Chinese Lung AIDS that was negative.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 14, 2022 08:16 AM (4olE8)

134 Since SMH isn't here yet, I'll be the one to point out that JR Majewski lied about his military service and should have been defeated in the primary, not the general election.

Posted by: pookysgirl, not riding the phony pony at November 14, 2022 08:16 AM (XKZwp)

135 115-wow you really got my attention with that one!!
McCarthy-esque

Posted by: Polls are for Strippers guy at November 14, 2022 08:16 AM (PgNEa)

136 See me at 81. They control most of the courts as well as the media and the law enforcement bureaucracy. They'd prosecute us while counting their dumped ballots.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 08:06 AM (x0n13)
++++
No doubt. Banana Republic.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Its a pickle painted yellow.

Posted by: JT at November 14, 2022 08:16 AM (T4tVD)

137 If the GOP resorted to the same tactics the Democrats use the election(s) would be considered illegitimate, criminal.

I don't see how one can say "when the Democrats do it, it's legal." Unless you're a Democrat.

However I do believe if the Republicans had the gumption to fight the Democrats on their level, and win, we'd see such an outcry to overhaul the election rules and laws from the left. But then it becomes a game of changing the rules every 2, 4 or 6 years to favor one side or the other... sort of what we're doing now but with only the left changing the rules.

Perhaps the only way to win is not to play.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 14, 2022 08:16 AM (Q4IgG)

138 124

Posted by: Nova local at November 14, 2022 08:13 AM (exHjb)

If those are the only names in the ring, the GOP-e and the CoC will get behind Pence. But I'm hearing Gov. Sununu (R-squish) of NH may be looking to toss his name in.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 14, 2022 08:16 AM (UcAQV)

139 Did you notice that they made sure to make "the election was stolen" as horrible, horrible thing for Republicans to say over the last two years? Conspiracy theories, fascism, etc.?

Battle-space prep. Now no mainstream Republican can point it out. Or has some mainstream Maverick like Cruz called out the Fetterman silliness already?

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 14, 2022 08:17 AM (VAy+Y)

140 We'll lower corporate taxes!

Posted by: GOPe at November 14, 2022 08:17 AM (PWvcU)

141 @124 Nova local-C'mon you really gonna fall for the GOPe thinking Pence is going to win? He's just part of a multiple front attack on Trump, that's it.

Posted by: JROD at November 14, 2022 08:17 AM (IlL6s)

142 , but thinks Pence will rally everyone together...ummmm, maybe they do know how to rig the system,
__________

"Despite campaigning from his basement, Pence's low key approach to the primaries garnered more delegates than all his rivals combined, including Candidate (X) who was able to draw 10s of thousands to his campaign rallies"
-Future Headlines, Today

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 14, 2022 08:17 AM (fs1hN)

143 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 14, 2022 08:10 AM (vH/6k)
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Hey, Fen. I threw my $0.02 in on your question about allergy meds on the Tech Thread. It was toward the end, so you might have missed it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:17 AM (t0OGg)

144 120. Hey it sucks, but it is all we have at the moment. After all the awful cheating, and the GOP tech dept still stuck in 1998, we are at worst 51-49 dem in senate, and hopefully winning the house.

in 2008, I woke up to 257-178 Dem House
60-40 Dem Senate, after Specter switched

Drank a lot of Whiskey that night

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:18 AM (Cw0fX)

145 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:17 AM (t0OGg)

Thank you. I will take a look.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 14, 2022 08:18 AM (vH/6k)

146 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 14, 2022 08:19 AM (Zz0t1)

147 So, after all this, you're finally saying we're totally f*cked......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 14, 2022 08:19 AM (Zz0t1)

148 You're probably wondering why I called you all together.

I didn't. You can quit wondering now.

Howdy, early-risers. Sun is struggling to rise. Dog is struggling to get more treats from me. We saw a nice little family of deer on this morning's walk. Daisy wanted to give chase, but my arm remained attached to me.

Now, what has our always-optimistic and cheery-voiced Morning Reporter got for us today…? [glances at top of editorial] Uh… oh.

Posted by: mindful webworker - can't trust that daaya at November 14, 2022 08:19 AM (zmGDy)

149 McConnell and McCarthy both need to be replaced in that order. How many of the spineless will support him in the House leadership vote he insists on having now? Probably a majority: It's who we are!

Posted by: Ziba at November 14, 2022 08:19 AM (4h9M3)

150 146 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 14, 2022 08:19 AM (Zz0t1)
++++
Ahh, I see that Sponge has become a Democrat electioneer

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:19 AM (t0OGg)

151 Większość Polaków kocha swój kraj.
Posted by: Maj. Healey Likes Poland

Gesundheidt !

Posted by: JT at November 14, 2022 08:19 AM (T4tVD)

152 Imagine if Donald Trump's second biggest individual campaign donor to the tune of $40 million to Democrats this cycle alone and likely a lot more off the books support who had a company led by ex-Republican administration people and who was connected to the Russian government, mysteriously imploded days after the election causing billions in loses and then he fled the country.

Anyone think the media might be a bit interested in that? How about the DOJ?

Our entire government is corrupt. Why would anyone think our elections aren't as well?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 08:20 AM (ZLI7S)

153 "Xi and Biden had a private meeting.
Can't wait to find out the result."

Hey! I got free egg rolls. No joke. Duck sauce too.

Posted by: Joe Biteum at November 14, 2022 08:20 AM (sn5EN)

154 "Perfectly legal" is a profoundly irritating assertion. By that logic, the Nazis rounding up minorities into camps was perfectly legal by the standards of the Nuremberg Laws.

The problem for Conservative Inc. is simple. The Democrats are implementing a Great Reset, but can't trust the supposedly docile opposition with power for fear of them helping MAGA actually damage the cabal. So they have to use all resources, legal and non, to keep the Republicans from power. This only inflames the base further, makes Noticing who is responsible more likely, and sets the Democrat base up for a more profound fall once people realize that Biden's crazier promises like student debt relief are completely unsustainable.

Posted by: trev006 at November 14, 2022 08:20 AM (igJSL)

155 Pics of Tiffany Trump's wedding-

https://tinyurl.com/5ft8vrer

Ivanka Trump shows off her toned abs in a pink two-piece number ahead of her half-sister Tiffany's wedding

https://tinyurl.com/3npbryxa

Posted by: redridinghood at November 14, 2022 08:20 AM (NpAcC)

156 When someone fills out a ballot for someone else, which happened in hundreds of thousands of cases, it is vote fraud. Full stop.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 14, 2022 08:20 AM (lTGtQ)

157 The GOP: Did you notice how much gas costs?
-

Imagine if the Republicans had put some effort into saying

"Elect us and your kids won't have to drive an 40 mile range electric car or eat bugs."

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 14, 2022 08:20 AM (VAy+Y)

158 And I already had a test for Chinese Lung AIDS that was negative.
----------------
That's too bad!

Sort of.

Get better soon.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 08:20 AM (yikp0)

159 The suspect was described as a black male

Oh, so that's why that story was already disappearing when I woke up.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 14, 2022 08:20 AM (zm+d5)

160 I hope The Neck Lump and it's host will one day infest the white house.

It's coming...and it will be hilarious.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 14, 2022 08:20 AM (NJQ2Z)

161 "So, after all this, you're finally saying we're totally f*cked......"

Pretty much.

Posted by: totally fd at November 14, 2022 08:20 AM (sn5EN)

162 Judges. We had obamacare repeal teed up, but Hanoi McCain stabbed us.

Even with all those RINO fools in the Senate, Trump was able, to produce 3 Scotus judges in one term. 6-3 majority for the first time since the 1920's.

Not just fu$5ing taxes

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:21 AM (Cw0fX)

163 Trump was able, to produce 3 Scotus judges in one term. 6-3 majority for the first time since the 1920's.

Which brought about the era of Thomas as the real Chief Judge.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 14, 2022 08:22 AM (zm+d5)

164 Pics of Tiffany Trump's wedding-

Ivanka Trump shows off her toned abs in a pink two-piece number ahead of her half-sister Tiffany's wedding
--------------
Save it for the Dress/Chess thread!


Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 08:22 AM (yikp0)

165 RUHS officials demanded that the student, Blake Allen, “take part in a restorative circle … to help her understand the rights of [transgender] students to access public accommodation … in a manner consistent with their [self-proclaimed] gender identity.”

My guess is the killing fields and the emptying of the cities will be in Phase II.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2022 08:22 AM (BRHaw)

166 103 As bad as it was, we are on the verge of winning the house.

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:08 AM (Cw0fX)

You sure about that? Because I'm not. At all.

Posted by: E. A. Blair at November 14, 2022 08:23 AM (CJyOE)

167 One more thing about Dave in FL’s theory; He says that among those who did vote it was an R+5 electorate…. A red wave. But then he says we weren’t effective in GOTV. This seems inconsistent to me…. If we were +5 a bunch of our voters got out! I’m missing the point obviously. Still think it was rigged

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 14, 2022 08:24 AM (xT8gx)

168 RUHS officials demanded that the student, Blake Allen, “take part in a restorative circle … to help her understand the rights of [transgender] students to access public accommodation … in a manner consistent with their [self-proclaimed] gender identity.”

My guess is the killing fields and the emptying of the cities will be in Phase II.
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2022 08:22 AM (BRHaw)
++++
Maybe. Going Cambodia is less likely than going China. It's straight out of the Cultural Revolution playbook. You start with the self-denunciation session and end with 30-50 million corpses.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:24 AM (t0OGg)

169 I hope The Neck Lump and it's host will one day infest the white house.

It's coming...and it will be hilarious.

More coffee.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy


BIDEN/FETTERMAN 2024 - "IT'S A NO BRAINER"

Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2022 08:24 AM (OvB8Q)

170 Red wave from America's buttholes. And the criminals got away with the crime. I'm grumpy this morning. I need coffee..

Posted by: Eromero at November 14, 2022 08:24 AM (S9yKY)

171 141 @124 Nova local-C'mon you really gonna fall for the GOPe thinking Pence is going to win? He's just part of a multiple front attack on Trump, that's it.
Posted by: JROD at November 14, 2022 08:17 AM (IlL6s)

No, but that they are gonna pay him a ton to run is surprising...if they want a squish to go after Trump, Hogan has already said he's in, and he comes without the baggage of having literally been Trumps' VP. I mean, anti-Trumpers won't vote Pence anymore than pro-Trumpers will...at least Hogan could get a delegate b/c he could get some anti people...

Posted by: Nova local at November 14, 2022 08:25 AM (exHjb)

172 Hey it sucks, but it is all we have at the moment. After all the awful cheating, and the GOP tech dept still stuck in 1998, we are at worst 51-49 dem in senate, and hopefully winning the house.

in 2008, I woke up to 257-178 Dem House
60-40 Dem Senate, after Specter switched

Drank a lot of Whiskey that night

Posted by: Jonah

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You are looking at it at the microscopic level. I don't blame you. It's heartbreaking to remove your eye from the eyepiece. The election wasn't "we took the house" or "we nearly took the Senate." Yes, it is if you zoom close enough in, but that's not what people are commenting about because they know what it means for the Republic and not just the next two years.

The election was "we can't win unless we're allowed to." That was the outcome. We suspected it in 2020, and it was confirmed in 2022.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 14, 2022 08:25 AM (VAy+Y)

173 Breaking Bad...

Hong Kong officials seize ca. 220 pounds of meth hidden inside an 'industrial device' sent from Mexico!

[I understand it was Stacey Abrams' vibrator.]

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 08:25 AM (yikp0)

174 Red wave from America's buttholes. And the criminals got away with the crime. I'm grumpy this morning. I need coffee..
Posted by: Eromero at November 14, 2022 08:24 AM (S9yKY)
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Coffee would be good but I don't want to brew a pot of it and have some go to waste.

I'm brewing a cup of teas.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:25 AM (t0OGg)

175 ++++
Ahh, I see that Sponge has become a Democrat electioneer
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:19 AM (t0OGg)



Busted.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 14, 2022 08:25 AM (Zz0t1)

176 Stat of the morning. With 93% of the AZ vote in.

Kimberly Yee (R) - Treasurer race 1,299,000 votes
Kari Lake (R) - Governor race 1,185,000 votes

Sure.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 14, 2022 08:25 AM (qH6FZ)

177 167 One more thing about Dave in FL’s theory; He says that among those who did vote it was an R+5 electorate…. A red wave. But then he says we weren’t effective in GOTV. This seems inconsistent to me…. If we were +5 a bunch of our voters got out! I’m missing the point obviously. Still think it was rigged
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 14, 2022 08:24 AM (xT8gx)

We were like voters in CA - tons of votes for people already certain to win...and just barely not enough votes practically anywhere we needed them...

Posted by: Nova local at November 14, 2022 08:26 AM (exHjb)

178 McConnell has to go. Just awful

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:26 AM (Cw0fX)

179 Looking at exit polls, no wonder Fetterlump won. We’re surrounded by brain dead people

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 14, 2022 08:26 AM (2xlV3)

180 149
"House leadership vote" my bad s/b "Senate."

(in case anyone noticed)

Posted by: Ziba at November 14, 2022 08:26 AM (4h9M3)

181 The election was "we can't win unless we're allowed to." That was the outcome. We suspected it in 2020, and it was confirmed in 2022.
Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 14, 2022 08:25 AM (VAy+Y)

Being allowed to might just constitute large bribes though. So we have that going for us.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 08:27 AM (eYoxG)

182 But then he says we weren’t effective in GOTV. This seems inconsistent to me…
________

GOTV vs GOTB (b = ballot), the R's had a good year regarding the former, but the D's excelled at the latter.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 14, 2022 08:27 AM (fs1hN)

183 One more thing about Dave in FL’s theory; He says that among those who did vote it was an R+5 electorate…. A red wave. But then he says we weren’t effective in GOTV. This seems inconsistent to me…. If we were +5 a bunch of our voters got out! I’m missing the point obviously. Still think it was rigged

Posted by: LinusVanPelt

--

It was +5 even with their sabotage and entirely based on "people will vote for us because groceries are expensive." If they'd campaigned and had a plan it likely could have been catastrophic for Democrats. They did the opposite. Republicans like Mitch actively HELPED the (D)s.

Again, go find the written Republican plan to deal with inflation. Spoilers: You won't. You can't. It doesn't exist. They didn't want to win.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 14, 2022 08:27 AM (VAy+Y)

184 A Seattle man fired into his neighbor’s apartment because he believed his neighbor had been hacking into his computer for several years, police said.

TBF, the shooter's password was "#steal_my_wifi,i_shoot!".

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 08:27 AM (yikp0)

185 Some good news. Boebert's lead has extended out to over 1000. They report 99% of the vote is in, which should be about 3000 votes outstanding.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 08:28 AM (5p7BC)

186 Harmeet Dhillion is leading the legal effort for Republicans this election. She and her team have been in AZ since election day and they are filing lawsuits.

They believe there was corruption in the election. Her word is good enough for me.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 08:28 AM (ZLI7S)

187 Mornin’, All.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 14, 2022 08:28 AM (cLJOK)

188 172. Valid points, and thanks for respecting mine.

I lived in AZ for 10 years. I am heartbroken over the fraud

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:28 AM (Cw0fX)

189 McConnel/McCarthy are just front men.

Get rid of them and two new front men take their place.

Posted by: davidt at November 14, 2022 08:28 AM (oTZbj)

190 I feel like Mr Hand (from Fast Times at Ridgemont High)

EVERYONE IN PA IS HIGH

no seriously!

my friends abuse coke and adderall

lower-caste edibles and just normal smoking pot

retirees ALSO edibles and smoking pot

there ya go! that explains PA

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 14, 2022 08:28 AM (w0NJk)

191 Hogan needs to just away.

When his lackluster, hand picked nominee for Governor lost the Primary to Dan Cox, the Trump supported candidate, Hogan refused to do anything going into the General other than badmouth Cox.

Hogan had plenty of opportunities to help the Republican party in Md, but could not get past his hate for Trump.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 14, 2022 08:28 AM (1n+EO)

192 Selling the house and the ranch in AZ while the market is somewhat good and moving to Kielbasaville. I now hate the majority of my countrymen here.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Likes Poland at November 14, 2022 08:28 AM (pb6ET)

193 "Elect us and your kids won't have to drive an 40 mile range electric car or eat bugs."

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 14, 2022 08:20 AM (VAy+Y)



Obviously cleaning up the voting plays a significant role. But what exactly did Ron DeSantis do that was popular with his voters?

Attacked fag shit at schools.
Attacked fag shit at Disney.
Uphold freedom and liberty during COVID.
Make a mockery of elitists in MV.

Did the GOP run a campaign on values, freedom, and border security? Nope.

They talked about inflation. Laugh if you must, but Joy Reid is correct in that talking economics doesn't get people fired up. It especially doesn't if you are the party that continually prints and spends money by the trillions, just like the other party.



Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 14, 2022 08:29 AM (vwMFL)

194 Kill Dancing Baby>>Kill Baby Hitler

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2022 08:29 AM (BRHaw)

195 13-Year-Old Maryland Boy Shot While Raking Leaves Has Died; $25K Reward Offered For His Killer

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 08:29 AM (yikp0)

196 Kimberly Yee (R) - Treasurer race 1,299,000 votes
Kari Lake (R) - Governor race 1,185,000 votes

Sure.

Posted by: lowandslow

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The first black Lt. Governor of NC (a black man) waves and says hello.

The mysteriously somehow re-elected lockdown Governor Roy Cooper, (D), tells him to shut up and get back into the colored people line.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 14, 2022 08:29 AM (VAy+Y)

197 Republicans like Mitch actively HELPED the (D)s
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Yes.

And I am praying that the Senate elects a new leader because of it. He gambled that in this environment he could still end up with 51. He lost that bet.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 08:29 AM (5p7BC)

198 I lived in AZ for 10 years. I am heartbroken over the fraud

I'm heartbroken too! we were planning on retiring (early) there. but now it will be Florida most likely. which is fine.

I just like Arizona better but after this no way.

I said this last night - Arizona was destroyed by California infection. and now PA is destroyed by all my new New York expat neighbors. It's over.

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 14, 2022 08:30 AM (w0NJk)

199 It was +5 even with their sabotage and entirely based on "people will vote for us because groceries are expensive." If they'd campaigned and had a plan it likely could have been catastrophic for Democrats. They did the opposite. Republicans like Mitch actively HELPED the (D)s.

Again, go find the written Republican plan to deal with inflation. Spoilers: You won't. You can't. It doesn't exist. They didn't want to win.
Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 14, 2022 08:27 AM (VAy+Y)
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No, they don't. And had they actually had a platform or campaigns, they might - but only might - have overcome the cheat in less-important races. But they still flat-out steal races they think are vital - like for AZ governor.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:30 AM (t0OGg)

200 Hogan had plenty of opportunities to help the Republican party in Md, but could not get past his hate for Trump.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 14, 2022 08:28 AM (1n+EO)

And his desire to run in 2024 as the hater of Trump...that was the biggest reason he sat on his hands. He didn't want to tarnish his lefty bonafides...

Posted by: Nova local at November 14, 2022 08:30 AM (exHjb)

201 Az-1 was a big hold. Schweikart down all week until yesterday. AZ-6 has not been called Dave, is that GOP?

After the GOP Oregon pick up, they have two reps in that state for the first time in 30 years

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:30 AM (Cw0fX)

202 This Senate map was always bad. Except for Arizona, Democrats were defending Blue States. Our side even had to defend Blue Pennsylvania. We would have been lucky to break even.

Posted by: Gunner at November 14, 2022 08:30 AM (JT7gY)

203 In the end, the same day in -person paper ballot voting is the only way to save us from ourselves.

It is open borders, rampant inflation, increasing crime , and cosmic level grifting by politicians -----versus same day , in person paper ballot voting.

Anybody know of a famous, orangish ex POTUS that is demanding in -person, same day paper ballot voting?
THIS is the litmus test of any candidate for anything going forward. Not abortion, or gun rights, or border stuff......there is no handling of any issue for middle America if and until voting is same day, paper ballots, in-person. Trump knows this. Who else will step forward?

Posted by: Voter theater. at November 14, 2022 08:31 AM (/dlEP)

204 No, they don't. And had they actually had a platform or campaigns, they might - but only might - have overcome the cheat in less-important races. But they still flat-out steal races they think are vital - like for AZ governor.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:30 AM (t0OGg)

AZ governor is vital for presidential runs, lots more money at stake.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 08:31 AM (eYoxG)

205 Right now, my focus is to get the Gavel out of the hands, of that evil False Prophet Pelosi

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:31 AM (Cw0fX)

206 >>"How tragic that expecting election integrity is a lot to ask of the Democrats."


How tragic that expecting the scorpion to not sting the frog is a lot to ask.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 14, 2022 08:31 AM (I/doM)

207 @173 andycanuck-Hmm, strange 220 pounds is even news. I follow the Border Patrol on Facebook and people would be blown away to see all the stuff they catch coming over the border. Sad part is even what they catch it is a drop in the bucket compared to what gets through.

Posted by: JROD at November 14, 2022 08:31 AM (IlL6s)

208 I can think of a dozen things that can be done to get our voters to the polls legally. But it is pointless if the GOP won't do their point. This is their JOB and they didn't do it.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 08:05 AM (5p7BC)

Sorry Dave, Vote Harder is not a solution.

Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud at November 14, 2022 08:31 AM (EpDzw)

209 Who were killed at UVA?

Posted by: Head puddi at November 14, 2022 08:31 AM (vBCo2)

210 165
My guess is the killing fields and the emptying of the cities will be in Phase II.
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2022 08:22 AM (BRHaw)

So long as they staff off my lawn.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 14, 2022 08:31 AM (UcAQV)

211 And I am praying that the Senate elects a new leader because of it. He gambled that in this environment he could still end up with 51. He lost that bet.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 08:29 AM (5p7BC)
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The only upshot I see is the possibility that the Irish Twins (as I am going to start calling McCarthy and McConnell) get ousted. They turned out hard to turf this election for their own party (because, of course, it is *their* party and not their constituents' party) and I hope they get smacked around for it by being demoted and ostracized.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:32 AM (t0OGg)

212 One other minor detail about Sam Bankman-Fried and his corrupt ponzi scheme FTX, they were the preferred crypto partner of the WEF.

There is a much bigger agenda at work here. Just because it sounds like a conspiracy theory doesn't mean it isn't true.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 08:32 AM (ZLI7S)

213 >"Walker should win the runoff - jjs"


Like the red wave, control of Congress, AZ governor-to-be Kari Lake, Oz in PA...

--

Sorry, but Walker will not win. Warnock will eek out a "win" with a combo of unrelenting fraud, apathetic voters who won't vote and very stupid people who do. Our Republic is gone.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 14, 2022 08:32 AM (sVtYq)

214 209 Who were killed at UVA?
Posted by: Head puddi at November 14, 2022 08:31 AM (vBCo2)

Black former football player current student shooting other students in a garage at night...and then fleeing...

Posted by: Nova local at November 14, 2022 08:32 AM (exHjb)

215 Our job is ram our thumbs up our asses and do nothing. We excel at our job!

Posted by: GOPe at November 14, 2022 08:33 AM (PWvcU)

216 If you live in Texas the war to be fought is to stop the online registration push. We are one of 11 states that don't have it and it needs to stay that way.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 14, 2022 08:33 AM (5kRSY)

217 202. Well Said. And we started this senate cycle, with the retirements of three Blind Rino Mice, in Portman, Burr, and Toomey in swing states.

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:33 AM (Cw0fX)

218 Former Vice President Pence on Trump tweeting he 'didn't have courage' on Jan. 6: "It angered me. [...] It doesn't take courage to break the law. It takes courage to uphold the law. The president's words were reckless."
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 08:11 AM (yikp0)

Oh, the one thing he got angry about in four years was his own President? F*ck you, you pious little pismire.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 14, 2022 08:34 AM (H8QX8)

219 202 This Senate map was always bad. Except for Arizona, Democrats were defending Blue States. Our side even had to defend Blue Pennsylvania. We would have been lucky to break even.


lest we forget ... FUCK YOU TOOMEY!

safe seat HANDED to the Dems to spite Trump - retiring? BS he's young

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 14, 2022 08:34 AM (w0NJk)

220 Another new "normal." Elections that drag on forever.

Posted by: Ziba at November 14, 2022 08:34 AM (4h9M3)

221 No, they don't. And had they actually had a platform or campaigns, they might - but only might - have overcome the cheat in less-important races. But they still flat-out steal races they think are vital - like for AZ governor.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:30 AM (t0OGg)

This. They aren't stupid. Insane yes, stupid no. That's why they'll allow a few House losses. Winning AZ makes up for it. I don't care what effort the GOP puts into GOTV in 2024. They'll lose due to fraud in a few key areas.

Posted by: WiNO - Again Fortified with Fraud at November 14, 2022 08:34 AM (EpDzw)

222 "Walker should win the runoff - jjs"


Like the red wave, control of Congress, AZ governor-to-be Kari Lake, Oz in PA...

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Sorry, but Walker will not win. Warnock will eek out a "win" with a combo of unrelenting fraud, apathetic voters who won't vote and very stupid people who do. Our Republic is gone.

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(R) politician's children's cars violently explode after minor side swipe accidents in Georgia.

I don't think Walker is going to win if any (R) politician's children drive.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 14, 2022 08:34 AM (VAy+Y)

223 Which is probably the ideal outcome for both parties. A weak GOP barely-there majority that will let most of what the Dems want to happen get done anyway and make sure there is no fight over the ersatz "budget" or debt ceiling when the time comes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:13 AM (t0OGg)
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The Follywood fact-checker AI rates this statement as "True".

No changes will be evident in the creepy fascism and "failure theater as government" in Washington. Winning in local and state races will also be under increasingly successful attack, as the Junta will require (through Executive Decree) vote harvesting and anonymous ballots in all fifty seven states. The Michigan/Pennsylvania/Arizona/Nevada experience will come to Florida, and probably by 2024.

Houston, we have a very serious fucking problem.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2022 08:34 AM (vkS9c)

224 ‘Well, I Had a Good Time’: San Antonio Councilman Faces Charges for Alleged Hit-and-Run

||Bodycam footage shows a Texas police officer questioning San Antonio Councilman Clayton Perry about an alleged hit-and-run incident on November 6. Authorities said the responding officer observed Perry lying on the ground outside of his home with his vehicle still running when he arrived. Video shows the officer questioning Perry about the incident, who denied driving his vehicle that night but confirmed he went out. “Where was I? Dang!,” Perry said when the officer asked him what he did earlier that night. “Well, I had a good time.” Perry faces a Class B misdemeanor for his suspected role in the hit-and-run incident.||

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 08:35 AM (yikp0)

225 Sorry, but Walker will not win. Warnock will eek out a "win" with a combo of unrelenting fraud, apathetic voters who won't vote and very stupid people who do. Our Republic is gone.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 14, 2022 08:32 AM (sVtYq)
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I can't blame the middle group. Why bother? If 2020 wasn't enough, 2022 should be. Even setting the fraud aside - and I don't think we should, but such is life - the Republicans, as in the GOP itself and the party apparatus, deliberately lost because they're mad at their base.

Would you crawl over broken glass to vote for this party? Hell, would you even bother to walk to the mailbox to vote for this party?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:35 AM (t0OGg)

226 216 If you live in Texas the war to be fought is to stop the online registration push. We are one of 11 states that don't have it and it needs to stay that way.


yeah and do SOMETHING about the border b/c despite the vaunted "hispanics go R" the counties along the border went blue. DO NOT LIKE.

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 14, 2022 08:35 AM (w0NJk)

227 Actually, looking at Larry Hogan's endorsements for the primary and the general...

Dud really sux at picking folk to endorse.

Well, except for his endorsement of the Democrat for Baltimore State's Attorney.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 14, 2022 08:35 AM (1n+EO)

228 McConnell has to go. Just awful
Posted by: Jonah

Constipated ?

Posted by: JT at November 14, 2022 08:35 AM (T4tVD)

229 Check marks? That's sooooo 5-minutes-ago, girlfriend! Now we have Blue Dildo Marks. Everyone who's someone has one. Now off with you, you non-person. You horrid little piles of wombat's do's.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg, Queen of All She Surveys at November 14, 2022 08:35 AM (XbY51)

230 "A new study reveals corporate America disproportionately targets Black and Hispanic consumers with junk food, such as candy, sugary drinks, snacks, and fast food, more than any other race."


This is what diversity in advertising leads to?

Posted by: fd at November 14, 2022 08:35 AM (sn5EN)

231 >>“Critical Race Theory does not promote inclusive and honest dialogue and education on campus.”


Functions as designed.
Who are these people who would believe it would promote inclusivity and dialogue???

Posted by: Lizzy at November 14, 2022 08:35 AM (I/doM)

232 Though he was in on it early, Burr did not found Tammany. Walsh has never been reliable on history.

And the Horde should recognize that anyone who, in 2020 or 2022 took Dave in Fla's projections, and when to a bookmaker, he'd be in bankruptcy court by now.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 14, 2022 08:35 AM (TgBWG)

233 One thing Arkansas has going for it is bad publicity. The left seems to think this is a state of inbreds living in dirt floor cabins, so they tend to bypass the state. The majority of those that do land here seem to come around in thinking and values.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 14, 2022 08:36 AM (lz5hY)

234 And I am praying that the Senate elects a new leader because of it. He gambled that in this environment he could still end up with 51. He lost that bet.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 08:29 AM (5p7BC)
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I honestly think he would have been perfectly happy with just 48.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 14, 2022 08:36 AM (3ImbR)

235 >>Again, go find the written Republican plan to deal with inflation. Spoilers: You won't. You can't. It doesn't exist. They didn't want to win.

While I don't disagree with you, tell me what the Democrats written plan to deal with anything was? They didn't have one either. They didn't need one.

Democrats have fully adopted the mantra voting doesn't matter, counting votes is what matter.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 08:36 AM (ZLI7S)

236 Of course it's the ballot harvesting. Meanwhile there are dozens posting nonsense about the machines, krakens, whatever, which makes us look like fools, and discounts the legitimate complaints.

Millions was spent on the last Arizona audit. They looked at the machines, at the ballot paper, etc.

You know what they didn't do? Signature tracing and canvassing.

What a joke.

Posted by: Tom C at November 14, 2022 08:36 AM (UC9jk)

237 Sorry, but Walker will not win. Warnock will eek out a "win" with a combo of unrelenting fraud, apathetic voters who won't vote and very stupid people who do. Our Republic is gone.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 14, 2022 08:32 AM (sVtYq)

Sadly, I agree. hence my post @68

Posted by: spypeach at November 14, 2022 08:36 AM (UuB/1)

238 Pence is such a dick.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 14, 2022 08:36 AM (2xlV3)

239 Lake never had a chance. She was a potential DeSantis+, and they couldn't permit it.

AZ under Hobbs will be an absolute nightmare.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 14, 2022 08:36 AM (H8QX8)

240 Joe DiGenova was on WMAL this morning agreeing with Pence about the Trump tweet.

Screw that guy.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 14, 2022 08:36 AM (cLJOK)

241 In case people forgot, the Democrats novel use of fraudulent signature gatherers in the primary in Michigan lead to the ineligibility of six Republicans running for Governor, including the front runner, James Craig, former Detroit police chief. The six used the same signature firm and all were found by courts to have so many duplicate and ineligible signatures that they did not have the minimum eligible signatures to quality for the ballot. Tudor Dixon was hand picked by the Dems in this scheme , likely because they knew her words on abortion would kill her campaign with young voters.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 14, 2022 08:37 AM (7FhU6)

242 >> "A new study reveals corporate America disproportionately targets Black and Hispanic consumers with junk food, such as candy, sugary drinks, snacks, and fast food, more than any other race."


Kids - of all races/ethnicities.
Just watch Nickelodeon and Disney for a few hours

Posted by: Lizzy at November 14, 2022 08:37 AM (I/doM)

243 "Sorry, but Walker will not win. Warnock will eek out a "win" with a combo of unrelenting fraud, apathetic voters who won't vote and very stupid people who do. Our Republic is gone."
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 14, 2022 08:32 AM (sVtYq)


I don't see it even being close. Walker's going to lose by an even bigger margin. There's going to be a lot of hype and cheerleading on social media from the GOP and come Dec. 6th the actual GOP voters are going to say, screw it, I got better things to do.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 14, 2022 08:37 AM (qH6FZ)

244 McConnel/McCarthy are just front men.
Get rid of them and two new front men take their place.
Posted by: davidt at November 14, 2022 08:28 AM (oTZbj)

Oh yeah, a buffer. The family has a lot of buffers!

Posted by: Willi Cici, Karl Rove's Boy Toy at November 14, 2022 08:37 AM (NJQ2Z)

245 Republicans like Mitch actively HELPED the (D)s

Giving Lisa Murkowski (R-commie) about $10m to help her defeat....... another republican.

Mitch pulled $16m from Bolduc (NH) race against Hassan at the last minute - just as he was closing in. While he wasn't a spectacular candidate - this race was winnable.

Team McFail (McConnel, McCarthy) handily seized defeat literally from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 14, 2022 08:37 AM (UcAQV)

246 Whether it is fraud or not, the Democrats are getting their voters to vote where they need it. And the result is an election that defies all historical models. Never in history has a party gotten a +5 result in voting, and not won seats.

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The fraud is enormous at this stage of the game. Biden also defied all the historical models when Trump won the bellwethers and all those counties across America in 2020. He won because of fraud. And it is growing, baked into the cake as has already been referenced. I am all out of hope that America can be saved. It can't. They control everything, from the federal gov't, bureaucracies, culture, entertainment, schools, woke corporations...EV-AH-REE-THING.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 14, 2022 08:37 AM (sVtYq)

247 sooner or later, some country will try to take advantage of America's disarray and confusion in a major way

imo ymmv

Posted by: DB at November 14, 2022 08:38 AM (geLO8)

248 LinusVanPelt - It's a little complicated. The election itself was a red wave (using voter preference for a party as the definition). R+5 overall (CA is going to lower that, but who cares about them).

But in the districts and states that the Democrats had to win, the results were lower and more like an R+1. The Democrats had a "process" for goosing votes in those specific districts and states. The GOP did not use GOTV (or spend money, or have a message, or really anything) to counteract the Democrat actions in those districts.

BTW - The first time Democrats deployed this "process" was in 2018. That was the first time you saw unusual over performance in the specific districts. However they are getting the votes, they know specifically where they are going to need them.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 08:38 AM (5p7BC)

249 136 Its a pickle painted yellow.
Posted by: JT at November 14, 2022 08:16 AM (T4tVD)


"E-Leck-Trickle . . . yellow pickle."

- - Mirror Universe Donovan Leitch

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 08:38 AM (x0n13)

250 The only upshot I see is the possibility that the Irish Twins (as I am going to start calling McCarthy and McConnell) get ousted. They turned out hard to turf this election for their own party (because, of course, it is *their* party and not their constituents' party) and I hope they get smacked around for it by being demoted and ostracized.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:32 AM (t0OGg)
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Since Republicans are best at doing little or nothing, unlike activist Democrats expert at undermining the electorate (winning the national vote and not winning either house of Congress is a neat trick), I am looking forward to this leadership election with interest. Will Pelosi and Schumer help save their partners? Or will the nascent partisanship on the GOP side finally have a positive result?

Stay tuned, America.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2022 08:38 AM (vkS9c)

251 There is a much bigger agenda at work here. Just because it sounds like a conspiracy theory doesn't mean it isn't true.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 08:32 AM (ZLI7S)



Glad you are on that story, interested to see what you dig up.

Alex Krainer and Tom Luongo are surmising that the old school European power brokers and the New York banking power brokers are at war behind the scenes, and that Powell's interest hikes at the Fed are part of putting the final shiv in old guard. Wonder if nuking part of their crypto reserves is part of the assault as well.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 14, 2022 08:38 AM (vwMFL)

252 158 And I already had a test for Chinese Lung AIDS that was negative.
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That's too bad!

Sort of.

Get better soon.
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 08:20 AM (yikp0)


Honestly, with as bad as I was feeling it would have been nice to have a positive test for something. Ah well; back at work and the cough is improving. Thanks for the well wishes.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 14, 2022 08:39 AM (4olE8)

253 235 >>Again, go find the written Republican plan to deal with inflation. Spoilers: You won't. You can't. It doesn't exist. They didn't want to win.

While I don't disagree with you, tell me what the Democrats written plan to deal with anything was? They didn't have one either. They didn't need one.

Democrats have fully adopted the mantra voting doesn't matter, counting votes is what matter.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 08:36 AM (ZLI7S)

Candidate quality? Fetterman, Biden. Literally dead guy.

The political machines have become pre-eminent in American politics.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 08:39 AM (eYoxG)

254 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:35 AM (t0OGg)

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All good points, Joe. I feel that way myself, tbh.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 14, 2022 08:39 AM (sVtYq)

255 218 OA, kudos on your use of “pismire.”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 14, 2022 08:39 AM (cLJOK)

256 248 you mean like the private meeting between Xi and Biden? Guess it’s mandatory mandarin on Rosetta Stone for all!

Posted by: Piper at November 14, 2022 08:39 AM (ZdaMQ)

257 Another new "normal." Elections that drag on forever.

Posted by: Ziba at November 14, 2022 08:34 AM (4h9M3)

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Brave New Normal.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Humiliation is Part of the Kink at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (K3TEc)

258 >Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin


what are your winters like
I gotta get out of CO next year

Posted by: DB at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (geLO8)

259 237 Sorry, but Walker will not win. Warnock will eek out a "win" with a combo of unrelenting fraud, apathetic voters who won't vote and very stupid people who do. Our Republic is gone.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 14, 2022 08:32 AM (sVtYq)

Sadly, I agree. hence my post @68
Posted by: spypeach at November 14, 2022 08:36 AM (UuB/1)


If they pull Ebenezer Baptist slumlord over the line, why did they not do that with Tank Abrams? (her girth notwithstanding)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (x0n13)

260 BTW - The first time Democrats deployed this "process" was in 2018. That was the first time you saw unusual over performance in the specific districts. However they are getting the votes, they know specifically where they are going to need them.


2012 actually.

I looked at the suddenly anomalous numbers here in Chester County then. they started doing it then.

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (w0NJk)

261 OK, here it is. Anyone who advocates that voting (early, not early, whatever) is useless (regardless where you live, even NY and IL) , is a Dem agent ! I am only half -joking. Dems want this more than anything, it is easier to beat Dem voting machine than apathy that lasts decades. No black voter out there - a reliable dem voter, will never ever not vote. And most of them believe that whites are regularly involved in minority voter suppression.

Posted by: runner at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (V13WU)

262 >OA, kudos on your use of “pismire.”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus



yeah I had to look that one up

Posted by: DB at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (geLO8)

263 There is a much bigger agenda at work here. Just because it sounds like a conspiracy theory doesn't mean it isn't true.

Biden sent tax money to Ukraine. Ukraine put it in FTX. FTX gave it to the Democrats/Biden. Rinse and repeat.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (zm+d5)

264 Democrats have fully adopted the mantra voting doesn't matter, counting votes is what matter.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 08:36 AM (ZLI7S)

One more lovely little lesson from Stalin. They're good students.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (H8QX8)

265 Do not pelt me, but you have to keep McCarthy at this point. If we are lucky enough to get a narrow majority, we cannot have any more bomb throwing. Yes he screwed some gop challengers, but he also is allowing many Freedom caucus guys to have Chairmanships like Jim Jordan, Kevin Brady, and McHenry. We cannot piss off the moderates at this point either. They will party switch

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (Cw0fX)

266 They control everything, from the federal gov't, bureaucracies, culture, entertainment, schools, woke corporations...EV-AH-REE-THING.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 14, 2022 08:37 AM (sVtYq)
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I'm with you...We now live in America-That-Was. It has fallen completely. Democrats killed it. *spit* May they all rot in hell for their perfidy.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 14, 2022 08:41 AM (BpYfr)

267 If they pull Ebenezer Baptist slumlord over the line, why did they not do that with Tank Abrams? (her girth notwithstanding)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (x0n13)

Who knows, maybe "they" made a deal. Nothing makes sense anymore.

Posted by: spypeach at November 14, 2022 08:41 AM (UuB/1)

268 Actually, looking at Larry Hogan's endorsements for the primary and the general...
Dud really sux at picking folk to endorse.
Well, except for his endorsement of the Democrat for Baltimore State's Attorney.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 14, 2022 08:35 AM (1n+EO)

Colonel Robert Hogan, Sex Maniac > Larry Hogan, Cuckologist

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 14, 2022 08:41 AM (NJQ2Z)

269 215 Our job is ram our thumbs up our asses and do nothing. We excel at our job!
Posted by: GOPe at November 14, 2022 08:33 AM (PWvcU)


"Call me!"

- - Big Paulie Pelosi

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 08:41 AM (x0n13)

270 Tudor Dixon was hand picked by the Dems in this scheme , likely because they knew her words on abortion would kill her campaign with young voters.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 14, 2022 08:37 AM


And abortion turned out to be a huge deal in races that were judged close or toss ups last month. abortion literally saved the senate for democrats and came extremely close to letting them keep the house. The jury is still out on the house though, abortion and cheating may yet let the democrats keep the house by one or two seats.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 14, 2022 08:41 AM (bVYXr)

271 If they pull Ebenezer Baptist slumlord over the line, why did they not do that with Tank Abrams? (her girth notwithstanding)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (x0n13)
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Control of the Senate gives them much more power than one D Governor.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 14, 2022 08:42 AM (3ImbR)

272 136 Its a pickle painted yellow.
Posted by: JT at November 14, 2022 08:16 AM (T4tVD)


"E-Leck-Trickle . . . yellow pickle."

- - Mirror Universe Donovan Leitch

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

LOL !!!

Posted by: JT at November 14, 2022 08:42 AM (T4tVD)

273 The number of Senate Republicans who've publicly said they disapprove of McConnell's leadership is small. Some big names, but not many have come forward with an opinion so who knows. I think McConnell's outreach to Walker is to shore up McConnell's defense.

No idea what will happen with McCarthy. But both men need to be unemployed come January.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 14, 2022 08:42 AM (Q4IgG)

274 This is the 2nd major election cycle that has extended voting dates, mail-in ballots, ballot harvesting and other forms of voting. Yet the GOP still thinks it is running elections as if it was 1980. If there is a shred of belief in winning an election, fresh minds of individuals who want to fight (dirty) need to embrace this new voting paradigm.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 14, 2022 08:42 AM (UcAQV)

275 Some good news. Boebert's lead has extended out to over 1000. They report 99% of the vote is in, which should be about 3000 votes outstanding.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 08:28 AM (5p7BC)

But wait, there's more! As part of our due diligence, we found 9,000 untabulated ballots that were in a mismarked storage tote. We'll have those processed and counted by the end of the week.

Posted by: CO Elections Administrator at November 14, 2022 08:42 AM (4I/2K)

276 Do not pelt me, but you have to keep McCarthy at this point. If we are lucky enough to get a narrow majority, we cannot have any more bomb throwing. Yes he screwed some gop challengers, but he also is allowing many Freedom caucus guys to have Chairmanships like Jim Jordan, Kevin Brady, and McHenry. We cannot piss off the moderates at this point either. They will party switch
Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (Cw0fX)
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No sale. Throw the bombs. Get his ass out of that chair. Even if it means deadlock and no majority leader at all. I'd rather see chaos than for either of the Irish Twins to maintain their positions after deliberately turfing an incredibly important election.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:43 AM (t0OGg)

277 I hate the fraud mostly because it makes our ridiculous sham elections drag out even longer. If these elections are going to be nothing more than pro forma endorsements of the ruling junta, can we at least keep the charade short? This is stultifying.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 14, 2022 08:43 AM (oINRc)

278 Additionally,that signature firm stealthily recommended to the novice front runner Republicans? Disappeared and no charges filed.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 14, 2022 08:43 AM (7FhU6)

279 I'm not sure what good any 'Red Wave' election is if the leftists can flood the election with fake votes and still win.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 14, 2022 08:43 AM (roH4R)

280 258 Snow rarely, mostly in NW AR and the high elevations. Nothing that hangs around very long. Winter is usually in the 50s, low 60s, maybe a freeze or frost warning at night. Summer in the River Valley can be a bit harsh with humidity.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 14, 2022 08:43 AM (lz5hY)

281 23% of the "registered" voters in NY are unverified. That is, they have never shown ID to prove who they are. "Harvesters" are walking in to drop off boxes of ballots. Democrats are "helping" people fill out an allegedly secret ballot at places like senior club gathering.

It's about getting votes into the pipeline that otherwise wouldn't be there and giving them legal cover once why are cast.

Republicans knew this BTW, and ignored the early voting and harvesting game because they believe it's illegal. Well- how'd that work out?

You can still play by the current rules and work to change them. What you can't do, and what the GOP and their overpaid consultants have done is to sit back, complain, and push to get the same old people to the polls who usually vote. That's a foolish game, as they just learned. Again.

The only person worth spit in the GOP is Harmeet Dillon and some of the people working for her. Everyone else should be tapped for their knowledge and kicked on their ass out the door, especially Trump "favorite" Rona McDaniel.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 14, 2022 08:43 AM (TbpGr)

282 The number of Senate Republicans who've publicly said they disapprove of McConnell's leadership is small.

Very simple reason to this: Follow the money. The PAC money the McFails control.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 14, 2022 08:43 AM (UcAQV)

283 Cmon. If McCarthy wins the House, you cannot dump him no matter how bad the perfomance.

Like firing Tom Landry after he loses a close Super Bowl

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:43 AM (Cw0fX)

284 >OA, kudos on your use of “pismire.”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus



yeah I had to look that one up
Posted by: DB

A quagmire filled with piss ?

Posted by: JT at November 14, 2022 08:43 AM (T4tVD)

285 277 I hate the fraud mostly because it makes our ridiculous sham elections drag out even longer. If these elections are going to be nothing more than pro forma endorsements of the ruling junta, can we at least keep the charade short? This is stultifying.


lawyers gotta eat too

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 14, 2022 08:44 AM (w0NJk)

286 Thinking about this more, I think it is becoming more and more clear that it is time for a 3rd party.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 14, 2022 08:44 AM (UcAQV)

287 If they pull Ebenezer Baptist slumlord over the line, why did they not do that with Tank Abrams? (her girth notwithstanding)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (x0n13)

Who knows, maybe "they" made a deal. Nothing makes sense anymore.
Posted by: spypeach at November 14, 2022 08:41 AM (UuB/1)

Always offer a deal.

Posted by: Crapgame at November 14, 2022 08:44 AM (4I/2K)

288 >> Another new "normal." Elections that drag on forever.

Electionday "season" + Counting until the Democrat wins

Posted by: Lizzy at November 14, 2022 08:44 AM (I/doM)

289 It will take nothing short of a miracle for Walker to win. Even if he does, the Senate is 50-50 with Kamel Toe the tie breaker. SSDD.

Posted by: Ziba at November 14, 2022 08:44 AM (4h9M3)

290 Josh Hawley said that the Republican Party is dead, and it is high time to move on to a rebuild. I imagine he will face consequences for that.

Posted by: kraken at November 14, 2022 08:45 AM (Vr12I)

291 Cmon. If McCarthy wins the House, you cannot dump him no matter how bad the perfomance.

Like firing Tom Landry after he loses a close Super Bowl
Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:43 AM (Cw0fX)
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Tom Landry didn't shatter his own players' kneecaps with tire irons while hoping to still win by one point but being perfectly willing to lose.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:45 AM (t0OGg)

292 Thanks for the well wishes.
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Cheers.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 08:45 AM (yikp0)

293 276 Do not pelt me, but you have to keep McCarthy at this point. If we are lucky enough to get a narrow majority, we cannot have any more bomb throwing. Yes he screwed some gop challengers, but he also is allowing many Freedom caucus guys to have Chairmanships like Jim Jordan, Kevin Brady, and McHenry. We cannot piss off the moderates at this point either. They will party switch
Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (Cw0fX)
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No sale. Throw the bombs. Get his ass out of that chair. Even if it means deadlock and no majority leader at all. I'd rather see chaos than for either of the Irish Twins to maintain their positions after deliberately turfing an incredibly important election.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:43 AM (t0OGg)

Making the party redder is more important in the long run anyways, whether you believe the US will persist or not.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 08:45 AM (eYoxG)

294
Like firing Tom Landry after he loses a close Super Bowl
Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:43 AM (Cw0fX)

If Tom Landry was banging Frank Luntz.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 14, 2022 08:45 AM (oINRc)

295 Do not pelt me, but you have to keep McCarthy at this point. If we are lucky enough to get a narrow majority, we cannot have any more bomb throwing. Yes he screwed some gop challengers, but he also is allowing many Freedom caucus guys to have Chairmanships like Jim Jordan, Kevin Brady, and McHenry. We cannot piss off the moderates at this point either. They will party switch
Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (Cw0fX)
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Yeah, let's smile and think of England!

Nah....I think I'll resist, and push for more and more bomb-throwers, as you call them.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2022 08:46 AM (vkS9c)

296 287 If they pull Ebenezer Baptist slumlord over the line, why did they not do that with Tank Abrams? (her girth notwithstanding)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (x0n13)



Kemp played ball in 2020, albeit after his daughter's fiancé blew up in a single vehicle car crash.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 14, 2022 08:46 AM (vwMFL)

297 Additionally,that signature firm stealthily recommended to the novice front runner Republicans? Disappeared and no charges filed.
Posted by: Jen the original at November 14, 2022 08:43 AM (7FhU6)
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What's this?

Posted by: IrishEi at November 14, 2022 08:46 AM (3ImbR)

298 Hawley isn't wrong.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 14, 2022 08:46 AM (PWvcU)

299 >>Glad you are on that story, interested to see what you dig up.

IrishEi is way ahead of me on the story but what I've learned so far convinces me that this is a much bigger story than it seems.

SBF's company was made up of former Obama and Clinton loyalists and his parents are both hardcore leftists and also big time Democrat fundraisers. The kid comes out of nowhere to become a billionaire overnight in a highly speculative business and immediately starts giving millions to Democrats. $5 million to Biden in 2020, nearly $40 million to Democrats this cycle.

And then there are the ties to Zelensky and to the WEF. It appears to have been a giant money laundering machine which would be nothing new for Ukraine and it benefited Democrats and corrupt international players who are working against out interests.

Ive been bothered since the start of the war why the insane promotion to send billions to this corrupt 3rd world shit hole. This might be part of the answer.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 08:46 AM (ZLI7S)

300 289 It will take nothing short of a miracle for Walker to win. Even if he does, the Senate is 50-50 with Kamel Toe the tie breaker. SSDD.
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My guess, the only way Walker wins is to secure McConnol as Minority Leader of the Senate. It will be done by Dems not Pubbies.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 14, 2022 08:47 AM (RP+Jx)

301 260 "BTW - The first time Democrats deployed this "process" was in 2018. That was the first time you saw unusual over performance in the specific districts. However they are getting the votes, they know specifically where they are going to need them."


2012 actually.

I looked at the suddenly anomalous numbers here in Chester County then. they started doing it then.
Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (w0NJk)

Political machines had been relatively weak and quiescent in the 21st century compared to the 20th, they never went away, but are now coming back with a vengeance.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 08:47 AM (eYoxG)

302 280 258 Snow rarely, mostly in NW AR and the high elevations. Nothing that hangs around very long. Winter is usually in the 50s, low 60s, maybe a freeze or frost warning at night. Summer in the River Valley can be a bit harsh with humidity.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 14, 2022 08:43 AM (lz5hY)

So you are down in southern Arkansas?

Posted by: kraken at November 14, 2022 08:47 AM (Vr12I)

303 A: True love, The Ark of the Covenant, and 2,000 spare votes


Q: What are three things Adam Frisch hoped to find in his storage locker?

Posted by: N. Clement Withers at November 14, 2022 08:47 AM (ykeLU)

304 276. I disagree Joe. A GOP House makes nuking the Filibuster in the Senate a moot point. If we lose the House, Manchin and sinema will allow the 60 vote Senate filibuster to be nuked.

Code Roe, Voting Rights act, DC statehood, Gun control etc...

You cannot want that Joe. Dump McCarthy and the moderates switch parties

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:47 AM (Cw0fX)

305 "A new study reveals corporate America disproportionately targets Black and Hispanic consumers with junk food, such as candy, sugary drinks, snacks, and fast food, more than any other race."

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That's interesting. Chicken/egg and all that. It's sort of like noticing that 75% of all commercials include black people, and wondering if that means the producers and advertisers are acknowledging that blacks are watching 75% of all TV hours.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 14, 2022 08:47 AM (VAy+Y)

306 Thinking about this more, I think it is becoming more and more clear that it is time for a 3rd party.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 14, 2022 08:44 AM


Multiple parties seem to work in other countries around the world, Great Britain and Israel both stand out for having a gazzillion political parties.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 14, 2022 08:47 AM (bVYXr)

307 "Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (Cw0fX) "

McCarthy failed miserably. One of the issues being prominently mentioned post election is a lack of specificity as to what precisely Republicans would do to change things. McCarthy fought that as did McConnell. He put out a bunch of alleged principles they would use to "guide" what they did. It was an absolute failure. He has no guts and is not a leader.

We don't need a bomb thrower. What we do need is someone with courage who can bring the caucus together around an agenda that isn't "we suck less, trust us". That isn't McCarthy. Not by a long shot.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 14, 2022 08:48 AM (TbpGr)

308 If Tom Landry was banging Frank Luntz.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 14, 2022 08:45 AM (oINRc)
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Arrrgggghhh! I knew it! He's been so quiet lately. So interested in cemeteries. I tried making his favorite dinner. Bought some new clothes. I even forced the caucus to sit through lots of focus groups! But nothing worked.

Posted by: Mrs. Frank McCarthy-Luntz at November 14, 2022 08:48 AM (vkS9c)

309 ...if GOPe hates Trump, DeSantis, and Youngkin (which seems to be the case after last week's media extravaganza), but thinks Pence will rally everyone together...ummmm, maybe they do know how to rig the system, b/c that's the only way he'll get a single delegate...
Posted by: Nova local at November 14, 2022 08:13 AM (exHjb)
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I've seen no evidence that GOPe hates DeSantis or Youngkin--quite the opposite, in fact.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 14, 2022 08:48 AM (3ImbR)

310 Nitrous oxide is a critical input of agricultural production. Reducing its use will seriously reduce food production….

I wasn't aware that N2O was on the hit list. Kinda wonder, do they find a key aspect of food production and thus decide to ruin it, or… what? (going for coffee refill)

Posted by: mindful webworker - no laughing gas matter at November 14, 2022 08:48 AM (Wql2z)

311 We cannot piss off the moderates at this point either. They will party switch
Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (Cw0fX)

A party switch putting the House BACK in Rat hands after the hard fight to take it would absolutely.devasyaye American democracy. That's the single best argument I've heard for getting rid of McCarthy.

Posted by: trev006 at November 14, 2022 08:49 AM (igJSL)

312 Ive been bothered since the start of the war why the insane promotion to send billions to this corrupt 3rd world shit hole. This might be part of the answer.

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Don't you dare malign our valiant efforts to save poor Ukrianistan from Russian invasion that we instigated !

Posted by: runner at November 14, 2022 08:49 AM (V13WU)

313 277 I hate the fraud mostly because it makes our ridiculous sham elections drag out even longer. If these elections are going to be nothing more than pro forma endorsements of the ruling junta, can we at least keep the charade short? This is stultifying.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 14, 2022 08:43 AM (oINRc)

Ironically dragging it out is to maintain "legitimacy". People's attention drops and it makes it easier to steal without much outcry.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 08:49 AM (eYoxG)

314 >>Like firing Tom Landry after he loses a close Super Bowl

Heven't a bunch of college football coaches been fired this year for simply losing winnable games?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 14, 2022 08:49 AM (I/doM)

315 How can this be?? After six days:
CA House 3 has counted only 51% of votes
CA House 9 has only counted 36%.

Who can have trust in such a system?

Posted by: JM in Florida at November 14, 2022 08:49 AM (Y4kHq)

316 300. Every Senate seat counts. 50-50 means Manchin can still be a thorn on some issues. One less we have to win 2024.

Fuck it all. Tired of being a cheerleader. Everyone is pissed, and has a right to be. I just want the House at this point

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:49 AM (Cw0fX)

317 236 Of course it's the ballot harvesting. Meanwhile there are dozens posting nonsense about the machines, krakens, whatever, which makes us look like fools, and discounts the legitimate complaints.

Mike Lindell needs to go away and sell pillows and decaf coffee.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Likes Poland at November 14, 2022 08:50 AM (pb6ET)

318 Oddly enough, VISA cuts credit card agreements with FTX for some strange reason!!!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 08:50 AM (yikp0)

319 "Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:40 AM (Cw0fX) "

McCarthy failed miserably. One of the issues being prominently mentioned post election is a lack of specificity as to what precisely Republicans would do to change things. McCarthy fought that as did McConnell. He put out a bunch of alleged principles they would use to "guide" what they did. It was an absolute failure. He has no guts and is not a leader.

We don't need a bomb thrower. What we do need is someone with courage who can bring the caucus together around an agenda that isn't "we suck less, trust us". That isn't McCarthy. Not by a long shot.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 14, 2022 08:48 AM (TbpGr)

In a sportsball analogy, we need a Joe Montana / Jerry Rice leadership combo in the Senate.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 14, 2022 08:50 AM (4I/2K)

320 314. Like Who?

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:50 AM (Cw0fX)

321 302 I'm in the river valley. Snow here is usually a one or two day event, melting off in the afternoon. Once you get north into the Boston Mountains, it can stick around a bit longer. Right now we're in a cold snap, 40s and 50s. I've seen high 60s here on Christmas.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 14, 2022 08:50 AM (lz5hY)

322 Our victories should not depend on 2-3 uncalled seats in fkng CA. And yet here we are.

Posted by: runner at November 14, 2022 08:50 AM (V13WU)

323 I disagree Joe. A GOP House makes nuking the Filibuster in the Senate a moot point. If we lose the House, Manchin and sinema will allow the 60 vote Senate filibuster to be nuked. ...
Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:47 AM (Cw0fX)
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If the House ends up a GOP majority, that doesn't mean McCarthy needs to be in charge of it.

If the House remains a GOP minority, that doesn't mean McCarthy needs to be in charge of it.

The outcome of the majority *position* is now entirely out of his hands, or the hands of anyone else in that feculent party. Whether the GOP fights internally or not is irrelevant to that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:50 AM (t0OGg)

324 I've seen no evidence that GOPe hates DeSantis or Youngkin--quite the opposite, in fact.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 14, 2022 08:48 AM (3ImbR)

If Conservative Inc. had been a little less obvious in denouncing Trump instead of focusing on yet another stolen election, they might have had a chance. Neo I can't even look at DeSantis without thinking "CoC puppet."

Posted by: trev006 at November 14, 2022 08:51 AM (igJSL)

325 100 Todays GOP exists simply to negotiate the terms of surrender. Until McDaniel, McConnell and McCarthy are gone, nothing will change. There isn't an ounce of courage in the entire caucus. All you have to do is say "election denier" and they run and hide like the obsequious, servile charlatans they really are.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 14, 2022 08:08 AM (TbpGr)

Not just them...
Lieutenants need to be purged too... anyone in leadership period needs to be designated to backbenchers.
McConnell leaving it to Thune isn't getting anything done here...
I'd gladly trade another Trump Run for complete changes in GOP leadership.. I mean I dunno maybe try someone that likes the base being in charge for once? Reward candidates that the base loves with leadership positions? Crazy talk I know.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 14, 2022 08:51 AM (53oGX)

326 321 302 I'm in the river valley. Snow here is usually a one or two day event, melting off in the afternoon. Once you get north into the Boston Mountains, it can stick around a bit longer. Right now we're in a cold snap, 40s and 50s. I've seen high 60s here on Christmas.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 14, 2022 08:50 AM (lz5hY)

Oh. I am up in the Missouri Ozarks. Gets colder here.

Posted by: kraken at November 14, 2022 08:52 AM (Vr12I)

327 Josh Hawley is right, and he won't be chairing or sitting on any committees as a result.

Posted by: Ziba at November 14, 2022 08:52 AM (4h9M3)

328 BTW, the Viking - Bills game was one for the ages. Kirk Cousins becomes the comeback QB. Then the Packers beat the Cowboys. WTF?

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 14, 2022 08:52 AM (RP+Jx)

329 ...if GOPe hates Trump, DeSantis, and Youngkin (which seems to be the case after last week's media extravaganza), but thinks Pence will rally everyone together...ummmm, maybe they do know how to rig the system, b/c that's the only way he'll get a single delegate...
Posted by: Nova local at November 14, 2022 08:13 AM (exHjb)
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What makes you think the GOP wants to win?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 08:52 AM (t0OGg)

330 326 Yep. And the ice storms.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 14, 2022 08:53 AM (lz5hY)

331 230 "A new study reveals corporate America disproportionately targets Black and Hispanic consumers with junk food, such as candy, sugary drinks, snacks, and fast food, more than any other race."


This is what diversity in advertising leads to?
Posted by: fd at November 14, 2022 08:35 AM (sn5EN)

100% correlation to the EBT for welfare and unemployment. Look at the shit that is on the counters at C stores!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2022 08:53 AM (BRHaw)

332 274 This is the 2nd major election cycle that has extended voting dates, mail-in ballots, ballot harvesting and other forms of voting. Yet the GOP still thinks it is running elections as if it was 1980. If there is a shred of belief in winning an election, fresh minds of individuals who want to fight (dirty) need to embrace this new voting paradigm.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 14, 2022 08:42 AM (UcAQV)

Look at the lengths the dems are willing to go to win elections. Now consider the reason they need to go to said lengths.

At some point, there will be pushback. This really cannot hold.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 14, 2022 08:53 AM (KbCG3)

333 It's a wet cold, man.

Posted by: Pvt Hudson at November 14, 2022 08:53 AM (4I/2K)

334 Posted by: Maj. Healey Likes Poland at November 14, 2022 08:28 AM (pb6ET

You are fluent in Polish? I would think it would be difficult to live in any country where you weren't fluent in the official language.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 14, 2022 08:54 AM (vH/6k)

335 324 I've seen no evidence that GOPe hates DeSantis or Youngkin--quite the opposite, in fact.
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GOPe thinks they can control DeSantis and Youngkin. I am not sure they are wrong. Either way, they have put the big question mark on both of them by this move. Color Revolutions are all about destroying trust in, well, everything.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 14, 2022 08:54 AM (RP+Jx)

336 307. Good points Marcus. But what is the purpose right now post election? Organizing a GOP House with important chairmanships and stopping at least the craziest marxist bullshit?

Or dumping McCarthy after the guy still won the House. Guarantee you that at least 2 of those new NY Reps on Long Island would switch parties

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:54 AM (Cw0fX)

337 Mike Lindell needs to go away and sell pillows and decaf coffee.
Posted by: Maj. Healey Likes Poland at November 14, 2022 08:50 AM (pb6ET)
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Really? Sometimes it pays to read the content:

Our Wisconsin election heroes applied Fractal Programming technology, funded by Mike Lindell, at scale to find and challenge phantoms. The process is explained at www.Omega4America.com. . .

. . . Using Fractal Programming, the Wisconsin team showed the impact of introducing friction into the ballot-gathering system. Even a little friction, and everything breaks down. That is leverage, and that leverage is with the good guys.

The Fractal team is working in about twenty states, with a roll-out to all states for 2024. Right now, Fractal analysis is provided by Mike Lindell and the Fractal team. It needs to go national — injecting gravel into the Democrat ballot-gathering apparatus.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 14, 2022 08:55 AM (3ImbR)

338 "A new study reveals corporate America disproportionately targets Black and Hispanic consumers with junk food, such as candy, sugary drinks, snacks, and fast food, more than any other race."


Should be:

"A new study shows Corporate America sells shit and all races buy it".

Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2022 08:55 AM (OvB8Q)

339 I saw a lot of right-leaning luminaries on Twitter posting "Kari Lake is going to win!" and similar proclamations over and over again in the days following the election. It's to the point where they no longer have any credibility. Having your theories and math to back it up are great, and sharing that info is great for people that want to follow it. But just declaring something to build trust and faith in something that was actually never going to happen...you don't get off with just a "oops, my bad" this time. The election system is a failure. The GOPe will learn how to cheat better, and the Dems will then find a new path. But no matter what, the system is intended to reflect the will of the people and hold elected officials accountable. That doesn't exist today, and I see little hope for it. Make the Florida model the national model? Maybe.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 14, 2022 08:55 AM (Gu48G)

340 At some point, there will be pushback. This really cannot hold.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 14, 2022 08:53 AM (KbCG3)

Wanna bet?

Posted by: CCP at November 14, 2022 08:55 AM (XIJ/X)

341 The suspect was described as a black male wearing a burgundy jacket, bby Vera Wang and a delightful pair of open toed pumps by Manolo Blahnik, according to campus police...

Minor fashion edit.

Posted by: N. Clement Withers at November 14, 2022 08:56 AM (ykeLU)

342 274 This is the 2nd major election cycle that has extended voting dates, mail-in ballots, ballot harvesting and other forms of voting. Yet the GOP still thinks it is running elections as if it was 1980. If there is a shred of belief in winning an election, fresh minds of individuals who want to fight (dirty) need to embrace this new voting paradigm.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 14, 2022 08:42 AM (UcAQV)

Look at the lengths the dems are willing to go to win elections. Now consider the reason they need to go to said lengths.

At some point, there will be pushback. This really cannot hold.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 14, 2022 08:53 AM (KbCG3)

Like Michael Jordan getting the ball at mid court, taking one dribble, then charging to the basket with no whistles forthcoming. This is fine.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 14, 2022 08:56 AM (4I/2K)

343 100% correlation to the EBT for welfare and unemployment. Look at the shit that is on the counters at C stores!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2022 08:53 AM


And for two and a half years during the covid *emergency* ebt cards, WIC and snap beneficiaries have had extra money thrown at them. Corporate America wants those $$$$ and biden knows it, that's why he extended the covid emergency declaration for another six months.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 14, 2022 08:56 AM (bVYXr)

344
189 McConnel/McCarthy are just front men.

Get rid of them and two new front men take their place.

Posted by: davidt at November 14, 2022 08:28 AM (oTZbj)

I think the same is true of the Biden junta; the cabinet members obviously have no knowledge of what their policies are and are taking instructions like Joe and Kamela.

Posted by: Auspex at November 14, 2022 08:56 AM (j4U/Z)

345 Millions was spent on the last Arizona audit. They looked at the machines, at the ballot paper, etc.

You know what they didn't do? Signature tracing and canvassing.

What a joke.
Posted by: Tom C at November 14, 2022 08:36 AM (UC9jk)

Interesting you brought that up. Let's do the time warp.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/
08/liz-harris-discusses-results-of-an-independent-
canvass-audit-in-maricopa-arizona/

Posted by: trev006 at November 14, 2022 08:56 AM (igJSL)

346 Who can have trust in such a system?

Posted by: JM in Florida at November 14, 2022 08:49 AM (Y4kHq)

...

Only the lonely...the brain dead...the clueless...

Posted by: Ziba at November 14, 2022 08:56 AM (4h9M3)

347 "It angered me. [...] It doesn't take courage to break the law. It takes courage to uphold the law. The president's words were reckless."
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Pence has always been a coward. See his spineless caving as Governor of Indiana on his own RFRA law.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 14, 2022 08:56 AM (MIKMs)

348 Make the Florida model the national model? Maybe.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 14, 2022 08:55 AM (Gu48G)

How? The only path to federal power for a party now depends on corruption. Which is that remains a priority, R voters need to come to terms with.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 08:57 AM (eYoxG)

349 You guys do realize that California brings in more donor $$$ than any other state to Republicans. Sure a lot used on Rino's, but a lot went to JD Vance and Ron Johnson also.

Rush Limbaugh always talked about his friends in Orange County, who wrote big checks to the RNC. Many conservative, who just could not give up their ocean views

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:57 AM (Cw0fX)

350 Forget about killing baby Hitler. Throttle baby Marx instead.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 14, 2022 08:57 AM (cLJOK)

351 Neo I can't even look at DeSantis without thinking "CoC puppet."
Posted by: trev006 at November 14, 2022 08:51 AM (igJSL)
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It doesn't help that DeSantis has been in "talks" with McCarthy and McConnell since the summer.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 14, 2022 08:57 AM (3ImbR)

352 Really? Sometimes it pays to read the content:

Posted by: IrishEi at November 14, 2022 08:55 AM (3ImbR)

Don't be silly young lady. Hair-On-Fire is the mantra, and it will not be changed by pesky facts.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2022 08:57 AM (XIJ/X)

353 Cole began suffering from gender dysphoria at just 9 years old. She told Fox News host Tucker Carlson that doctors began urging her to transition when she was 12.

By 13, she was fully immersed in the transition to manhood.

Between 13 and 17, Cole began taking puberty-blocking drugs, received off-label sex hormone treatments, and received a double mastectomy, in which both of her breasts were completely removed.

Now a legal adult, Cole laments that "I will never be able to breast-feed whatever children I will have. I don’t even know if, because I was put on puberty blockers and testosterone at only 13 years old, I don’t know if I’ll be able to conceive a child naturally."

"I made an adult decision as a child," she said.

*Hitler, Satan, Mao, and Mengele laughing and enjoying a martini and rossi on the rocks.*

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2022 08:57 AM (BRHaw)

354 Don't need a third party.
Gut the Pubbies and wear the suit
Amplify Trump's plan.

Posted by: Braenyard's phone at November 14, 2022 08:57 AM (rxLxm)

355 After this election calling the GOP the "stupid paty" would be too high praise.

Posted by: Cosda at November 14, 2022 08:57 AM (2Ku7q)

356 The Fractal team is working in about twenty states, with a roll-out to all states for 2024. Right now, Fractal analysis is provided by Mike Lindell and the Fractal team. It needs to go national — injecting gravel into the Democrat ballot-gathering apparatus.
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I am not sure Fractal and Friction are the same thing. Would like to know more but my understanding fractals is quite different than friction.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 14, 2022 08:57 AM (RP+Jx)

357 It's a wet cold, man.
Posted by: Pvt Hudson

I read that as a wet cold clam.

Posted by: JT at November 14, 2022 08:57 AM (T4tVD)

358 If there is a shred of belief in winning an election, fresh minds of individuals who want to fight (dirty) need to embrace this new voting paradigm.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 14, 2022 08:42 AM (UcAQV)

That's like saying the Washington Generals need to start using ladders against the Globetrotters. If the GOP starts cheating like Democrats, they'll get hauled away. Look at Cambridge Analytica.

Posted by: trev006 at November 14, 2022 08:58 AM (igJSL)

359 A few months ago if you said that the vaccines were not just ineffective they were causing significant health issues for some people you would have been banned from social media and derided by the media and the smart set as a nutcase.

Now the drug companies are basically admitting it and the information is being freely shared in the media and social media.

Often the difference between conspiracy theories and the truth is nothing more than timing. Don't be too quick to write off "conspiracy theories". They have proven to be true an awful lot recently.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 08:58 AM (ZLI7S)

360 Mike Lindell gave big money to Ted Budd and Ron Johnson. Vance also

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:58 AM (Cw0fX)

361 You are fluent in Polish? I would think it would be difficult to live in any country where you weren't fluent in the official language.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 14, 2022 08:54 AM (vH/6k)
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Que?

Posted by: Illegal Alien from South of the Border at November 14, 2022 08:59 AM (t0OGg)

362 Speaking of, it was mentioned yesterday but I'll repost it because it's so tragic and hilarious:
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Okay, so this is horrible. Related but horrible.

Really, REALLY horrible.

You know all the youtube videos of pretty clever people explaining interesting things and how they work? Folks like the Smarter Every Day guy and the Mark Robey (that might not be right) guy or the guy who explains how things work by cutting them in half and then explaining the physics of the insides and why it's clever?

Whelp, turns out Doctor Professor Smartest Black Scientist In America Doctor Neil Degrass Tysone does it, too.

And it's so bad, because it's exactly what you think.

"How does water get up to water towers? You have to pump it! Then gravity lets the water drain. Gravity!"

No, I'm not joking.

https://youtu.be/VAn5xYpbVR8

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 14, 2022 08:59 AM (VAy+Y)

363 Dumping McCarthy and McConnell would certainly be a great start. Losing an election so miserably requires it.

Arguing, fearfully, that "no change" is better than change, after such an ignominious failure, blows my mind.

Can't wait to see what actually happens.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2022 08:59 AM (PFwtW)

364 McConnel/McCarthy are just front men.

Get rid of them and two new front men take their place.
Posted by: davidt at November 14, 2022 08:28 AM (oTZbj)
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Maybe. Perhaps even probably.

But they still need to be punished and removed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 09:00 AM (t0OGg)

365 CA people are red It's leaders and judges are crooks.

Posted by: Braenyard's phone at November 14, 2022 09:00 AM (rxLxm)

366 Often the difference between conspiracy theories and the truth is nothing more than timing. Don't be too quick to write off "conspiracy theories". They have proven to be true an awful lot recently.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 08:58 AM (ZLI7S)



A conspiracy theory today is a news story in 6 months.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 14, 2022 09:01 AM (vwMFL)

367 *Hitler, Satan, Mao, and Mengele laughing and enjoying a martini and rossi on the rocks.*
-----------------
I enjoyed my Autumnal Old Fashion this weekend. It was supurb. A jigger of Bourbon, Teaspoon of Maple Syrup, a squeeze of lemon, ice and apple cider. Remarkably festive.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 14, 2022 09:01 AM (RP+Jx)

368 THE DEMOCRATS ARE PANICKING!!!!!

...... remember the good ol' days around here?

Posted by: JROD at November 14, 2022 09:01 AM (IlL6s)

369 Media claiming Trump wanted enemies investigated by the IRS. (though he denies it and it's probably bullshit given his character)Wonder if they know that'd make me like him more, not less.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 09:02 AM (eYoxG)

370 If the GOP starts cheating like Democrats, they'll get hauled away.

This. Since the Dems are in charge of the voting process and are themselves doing the dirty, they know exactly what it looks like and how it is accomplished. What better way to hide their perfidy than to expose and highlight any small amount of tit-for-tat "fortification" anomalies slipped in by the Repubs.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 14, 2022 09:02 AM (4I/2K)

371 355 After this election calling the GOP the "stupid paty" would be too high praise.
Posted by: Cosda at November 14, 2022 08:57 AM (2Ku7q)

Only if you're operating under the false premise that the GOP is actually interested in winning elections.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 14, 2022 09:02 AM (KbCG3)

372 363. The best reason for dumping McCarthy and McConnell is the fact that they are democrats at heart. They are happy to let democrats cheat to victory, and I suspect they knew the plan before it happened.

Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:02 AM (Zzbjj)

373 I'm just worried Ace is going to go off the edge about Trump in the next 20 months. His buddy Dave Reaboi already has.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 14, 2022 09:02 AM (qH6FZ)

374 330 326 Yep. And the ice storms.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 14, 2022 08:53 AM (lz5hY)

Heh. That is why I have a good generator for the house.

Posted by: kraken at November 14, 2022 09:02 AM (Vr12I)

375 Don't be silly young lady. Hair-On-Fire is the mantra, and it will not be changed by pesky facts.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 14, 2022 08:57 AM (XIJ/X)
~~~~~

*thunk*
You're right. I don't know what I was thinking.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 14, 2022 09:02 AM (3ImbR)

376 Posted by: Illegal Alien from South of the Border at November 14, 2022 08:59 AM (t0OGg)

I'm sure despite the governmental handouts, it's difficult for them too, and yes, I am totally opposed to illegal immigration and open borders, and since Major Healy would be, a legal immigrant it's a different situation.

I am grateful for the legal immigrants-two Polish gals-who just won for our Board of Education and are willing to stay and fight for their kids.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 14, 2022 09:03 AM (vH/6k)

377 Walker will most likely lose.

Posted by: MJ at November 14, 2022 09:03 AM (zwDuR)

378 368. I do, and they had to cheat hard to win. Panic inspires fraud and complete lack of ethics, and their donors expect victory, no matter how it's realized.

Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:03 AM (Zzbjj)

379 McConnell is a front for CCP and won't be easily replaced.

Posted by: Braenyard's phone at November 14, 2022 09:03 AM (rxLxm)

380 I am afraid that the government is going to destroy Trump in the coming year.

Posted by: kraken at November 14, 2022 09:04 AM (Vr12I)

381 Off to get my head examined. Literally! BBL

Posted by: IrishEi at November 14, 2022 09:04 AM (3ImbR)

382 This. Since the Dems are in charge of the voting process and are themselves doing the dirty, they know exactly what it looks like and how it is accomplished. What better way to hide their perfidy than to expose and highlight any small amount of tit-for-tat "fortification" anomalies slipped in by the Repubs.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 14, 2022 09:02 AM (4I/2K)

Cheating is hard to catch and prove. The statistical anomalies created would be identical to those in urban areas, and that's pretty much all you'd have to work with for claims in regards to who did the cheating and the scale of said cheating.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 09:04 AM (eYoxG)

383 I wish some of these retarded pundits in the media would just let shit cool off before speaking.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 14, 2022 09:05 AM (PWvcU)

384 I am afraid that the government is going to destroy Trump in the coming year.
Posted by: kraken at November 14, 2022 09:04 AM (Vr12I)
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Probably. It will make little difference to outcomes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 09:05 AM (t0OGg)

385 That Grifter Zalensky buying crypto with US taxpayer money

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 09:05 AM (Cw0fX)

386 I wish some of these retarded pundits in the media would just let shit cool off before speaking.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 14, 2022 09:05 AM (PWvcU)
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Huh? That's not who they are.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 09:05 AM (t0OGg)

387 Walker will most likely lose.

Posted by: MJ at November 14, 2022 09:03 AM


I don't know about that. mcconnell has already said he is going to back his run. We will see.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 14, 2022 09:06 AM (bVYXr)

388 369 Media claiming Trump wanted enemies investigated by the IRS. (though he denies it and it's probably bullshit given his character)Wonder if they know that'd make me like him more, not less.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 09:02 AM (eYoxG)

Now do Obama and Lois Learner!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2022 09:06 AM (BRHaw)

389 >>I'm just worried Ace is going to go off the edge about Trump in the next 20 months. His buddy Dave Reaboi already has.

With all the screaming about insurrection and Trump trying to overturn an election it seems to get lost that the reason so many people were angry back then is they believed, accurately, that the election was rigged. Trump has been using his platform ever since to warn people that Democrats would continue to rig elections until they were stopped.

A lot of people told Trump to move on, stop looking in the past and talk about the future. Without the ability to win elections fairly there is no future. Trump was right.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 09:06 AM (ZLI7S)

390 I'm just worried Ace is going to go off the edge about Trump in the next 20 months. His buddy Dave Reaboi already has.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 14, 2022 09:02 AM (qH6FZ)
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Ever since Twitter has gotten so effective at preventing non-account holders from viewing twitter I've fallen away from reading Reaboi, so I didn't know this.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2022 09:06 AM (PFwtW)

391 Irish - I meant to mention that part of the content in response to Joe. Disrupting the Democrat Machine is also a tactic that can help. Notice how they lost their shit when people were watching drop boxes.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 09:07 AM (5p7BC)

392 Three ironclad proofs of rampant election fraud:
Basement Biden (81M!) “>” Trump 2020
Lumpy Braindead Fetterneck “>” Oz 2022
Abortion Mouse “>” Kari Lake (most impressive candidate I’ve seen in awhile) 2022

Those results actually reflected the true will of the electorate???? Yeah right

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 14, 2022 09:07 AM (xT8gx)

393 That Grifter Zalensky buying crypto with US taxpayer money
Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 09:05 AM (Cw0fX)
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How else is the Big Guy going to get that 10%?

I dunno how much shady shit FTX was doing or how much - if any - US taxpayer money was sluicing through it via Ukraine, but it isn't too bad an idea at this point to just assume any news about perfidy and fraud is true.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 09:07 AM (t0OGg)

394 I learned something useful this morning. When making tea there is a noticeable differencenbetween chai and Chia.

Posted by: N. Clement Withers at November 14, 2022 09:07 AM (ykeLU)

395 I'd really like to see McConnell and McCarthy removed, expelled from the party. But that's not going to happen. One or the other may get demoted, but their influence will still pervade the GOP. Each of them still has a pretty significant following. And money.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 14, 2022 09:08 AM (Q4IgG)

396 363. Huck , you do not lose election if you win a chamber.

I remember in 2018, when the Dems won the House , but lost the senate and seats. Young Turks wanted to hang Schumer

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 09:08 AM (Cw0fX)

397 A few things:

1. Major cities provide the greatest opportunity for fraud/harvesting. No republican will ever run them or have the spine to confront them.

2. Any republican governor not following Desantis' lead in cleaning up their states voting procedures should be viewed as complicit in the dems' aims.

3. Mail-in ballots render moot any discussion of Trump or who the real party influencers are. Anything beyond discussion of fixing mail-in BS is just window dressing for political talk shows.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 14, 2022 09:08 AM (KbCG3)

398 "We now live in America-That-Was. It has fallen completely. Democrats killed it."

And we helped!

Posted by: Shake 'N Bake GOP at November 14, 2022 09:08 AM (sn5EN)

399 I learned something useful this morning. When making tea there is a noticeable differencenbetween chai and Chia.
Posted by: N. Clement Withers at November 14, 2022 09:07 AM (ykeLU)
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Grit content if nothing else.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 09:08 AM (t0OGg)

400 396. Flip a chamber. sorry

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 09:09 AM (Cw0fX)

401 "to be clear, certain things are technically illegal but the watering down of any sort of normal safeguards makes the illegal aspects that much easier to pull off"

Right, they "won" by cheating. Phantom ballots is criminal cheating. Sabotaging machines in conservative areas is criminal cheating. Conspiring with lawmakers and others to hide the cheating and stop prosecution is criminal cheating.

Maybe we have to cheat in the same ways in order to win, but the corrupt cops will be eager to fabricate evidence to prosecute their political enemies (see persecution of Trump, and J6 "terrorists" held without bond, without charges, without trial, or FBI's 16 agents arranging the Whitmer narrative, finally entrapping two goofs.)

But Dave FL does make the good point that Dems contacted him constantly, the GOPe never tried. Mitch got the result he wanted.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 14, 2022 09:09 AM (Cus5s)

402 Multiple parties seem to work in other countries around the world, Great Britain and Israel both stand out for having a gazzillion political parties.
____________

We'll never work with the new Constitution party, and besides, we have way more in common with the Democratic party. I will work together with my colleague and good friend from NY, Sen. Schumer, to deliver for our constituents.
- Mitch McConnell (R-WEF)

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 14, 2022 09:10 AM (fs1hN)

403 When making tea there is a noticeable difference between chai and Chia.

Posted by: N. Clement Withers at November 14, 2022 09:07 AM (ykeLU)



Chia is strong stuff, it'll put hair on your chest.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 14, 2022 09:10 AM (vwMFL)

404 Rolling g out Fractional Data plan I. 2024 will be too late. Primaries start~Mar -June. Taking leg action against FD plan will also cause problems.

2022 voter data is fresh. Start now and get the challenges out of the way for 2024.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 14, 2022 09:10 AM (NW9xb)

405 Cheating is hard to catch and prove. The statistical anomalies created would be identical to those in urban areas, and that's pretty much all you'd have to work with for claims in regards to who did the cheating and the scale of said cheating.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 09:04 AM (eYoxG)

What do you call sending 2 500 packs of voting machine ballots to a precinct with 2800 registered voters? Over 10 precincts!
What do you call sending out voting machine paper 5% undersized that cannot be calibrated to the scanner?
What do you call workings telling people they have already voted and they can fill out a provisional ballot that goes in the TA DA provisional box?

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2022 09:10 AM (BRHaw)

406 Trump was right and Ace beat that horse to a bloody pulp last week.

Posted by: Braenyard's phone at November 14, 2022 09:10 AM (rxLxm)

407 390 I'm just worried Ace is going to go off the edge about Trump in the next 20 months. His buddy Dave Reaboi already has.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 14, 2022 09:02 AM (qH6FZ)

There may be reason$ that Reaboi is so anti-Trump these days.

Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:11 AM (Zzbjj)

408 "Ever since Twitter has gotten so effective at preventing non-account holders from viewing twitter I've fallen away from reading Reaboi, so I didn't know this."
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2022 09:06 AM (PFwtW)

He kept his hatred for Trump, and his supporter, in check up until last Wednesday then the mask came off.
I'm hoping Ace doesn't do the same.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 14, 2022 09:11 AM (qH6FZ)

409 Thumbs down on ice storms. I'm from MD where that is a thing, and it is a giant PITA

Posted by: DB at November 14, 2022 09:11 AM (geLO8)

410 Folks, prepare yourselves...DU has figured out their low ratings with voters on inflation: messaging.
Democrats' messaging failure on inflationInflation was the perfect topic for Republicans to run on; it's a gift from the universe to the opposition party, especially when it occurs world-wide. There is little to nothing the party in power can do to eliminate it once it ramps

Not talking about it is probably the best thing tactically. Instead, attack enemy or talk about something else.

The strong message which was used, but not enough, was to attack GOP tax cuts as inflationary

Personally, I think abortion is an issue of democracy, civil rights, & health care. When 51% of the population turns on the TV and sees that the GOP wants to take all of that away from us, it has a way of overriding blather about inflation.

Which party represents fiscal responsibility? The Democrats. with a handy supporting graph!
https://tinyurl.com/2rrsjzrn

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at November 14, 2022 09:11 AM (JCZqz)

411 I skip the nooz over the weekends mostly. Did Lake lose?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 14, 2022 09:11 AM (906pl)

412 After coming out of mourning from the 2020 steal, i started looking at the Senate races for 2022.We had a bad map. Open seats in Ohio, NC, and Penn. Wisconsin was lean D. Rubio was a toss up. Grassley might retire. Could have been a lot worse

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 09:12 AM (Cw0fX)

413 @373 lowandslow-That "sometimes they win" post by ace and then the fervor of some here over Trump being an unelectable doody-poopy head because of his attack dog ways wasn't a good sign. This place may become uninhabitable here in the near future.

Posted by: JROD at November 14, 2022 09:12 AM (IlL6s)

414 I read something about six months ago that seemed correct.

The gerrymandering is so well done that there will be no more wave elections.

Posted by: MJ at November 14, 2022 09:12 AM (zwDuR)

415 Without the ability to win elections fairly there is no future. Trump was right.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 09:06 AM (ZLI7S)
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Sure, he was right. But he also lost the election. That's unforgivable. You can argue he lost because of fraud, and it was so close, and I acknowledge all that.
But Trump failed to outrun the fraud; it actually worked.

Peace and prosperity didn't overcome his chaotic presidency and the absolute war with the Propaganda machine.

And he's going to be 78.

I want younger, and I want to win.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2022 09:12 AM (sReWB)

416
Those results actually reflected the true will of the electorate???? Yeah right
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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The frightening thing is...it might well.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 14, 2022 09:12 AM (m/T6g)

417 409 Thumbs down on ice storms. I'm from MD where that is a thing, and it is a giant PITA
Posted by: DB at November 14, 2022 09:11 AM (geLO


I remember the one from '74. Slipped on the ice in my junior high school yard, fell and had 10 stitches in my chin.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 09:12 AM (x0n13)

418 Everything is broken, most of it beyond repair. That’s where I am right now.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 14, 2022 09:12 AM (cLJOK)

419 411 I skip the nooz over the weekends mostly. Did Lake lose?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 14, 2022 09:11 AM (906pl)

In slow motion.

Posted by: kraken at November 14, 2022 09:13 AM (Vr12I)

420 >>>mcconnell has already said he is going to back his [Walker's ]run >>>


....

I feel so much better knowing that. Walker will definitely win!

Posted by: Ziba at November 14, 2022 09:13 AM (4h9M3)

421 Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2022 09:10 AM (BRHaw)

I call it sabotage. And it is. I also think that turning the cameras off for 8 hours, then the Republicans magically lose, sabotage, too.

Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:13 AM (Zzbjj)

422 411 I skip the nooz over the weekends mostly. Did Lake lose?


I don't think she conceded and she might call for a recount but Hobbs declared victory and the votes don't seem to be there for Kari.

should have kept her yap shut about going after fraudsters and the media until AFTER vote-counting season I guess

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 14, 2022 09:13 AM (w0NJk)

423 Britain has had 3 PM's in the last 6 months. How is that working?

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 09:13 AM (Cw0fX)

424 @412 Jonah-We know, we know. You watched Mark Levin last night. Just remember what he said at the end of his show.

Posted by: JROD at November 14, 2022 09:14 AM (IlL6s)

425 Biden, speaking in Bali, is airing dirty laundry.
Sounds for (to) all the world like the occupier of a palace coup. The water has no edge.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 14, 2022 09:14 AM (x61Im)

426 Baris of PPD is losing cred big time. He said Lake would win on Friday

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 09:14 AM (Cw0fX)

427 >I skip the nooz over the weekends mostly. Did Lake lose?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher


They're writing the obituaries now
too bad- she coulda been somebody- she coulda been a contender

Posted by: DB at November 14, 2022 09:14 AM (geLO8)

428 Dave in Fla, you're doing yeoman's work in providing a reasonable (if stroke-inducing) reason for the election results - something beyond the operative narrative of OrangeManBad.

Loved the CJN podcast on Friday. This really is a must-listen effort. I was particularly intrigued by the Barnes/Baris effort that is being put together. I absolutely want to help do something in CT. It's a lost blue state, but there are a lot of resources here that can be tapped, so we can see what can work in blue states. The path to 2024 runs through Big Blue, unfortunately, and we need to gain ground here if the ultimate nominee is to have a chance.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 14, 2022 09:14 AM (y2RgW)

429 405 Cheating is hard to catch and prove. The statistical anomalies created would be identical to those in urban areas, and that's pretty much all you'd have to work with for claims in regards to who did the cheating and the scale of said cheating.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 09:04 AM (eYoxG)

What do you call sending 2 500 packs of voting machine ballots to a precinct with 2800 registered voters? Over 10 precincts!
What do you call sending out voting machine paper 5% undersized that cannot be calibrated to the scanner?
What do you call workings telling people they have already voted and they can fill out a provisional ballot that goes in the TA DA provisional box?
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2022 09:10 AM (BRHaw)

"Oopsies". Can't be tied back to a single person. Point is, it's not as easy to crack down on those conducting fraud as it is to make fraud difficult to conduct. In easy fraud states, even if Rs were to start committing fraud, it's unlikely much legal action could be taken.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 09:14 AM (eYoxG)

430 Britain has had 3 PM's in the last 6 months. How is that working?
Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 09:13 AM (Cw0fX)
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At least as well as our more-stable system...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 09:15 AM (t0OGg)

431 The point of representative government is allowing the population a way to change leaders and policies peacefully.

The sort of theft we are seeing now eliminates that.

That doesn't leave many options as the current junta is going to take this successful theft as a reason to double down on the polices that people are angry about.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 14, 2022 09:15 AM (ESjRY)

432 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 07:55 AM (t0OGg)

Exactly. As soon as the GOP started using donk tactics in NC, the tactics became crimes.

Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:15 AM (Zzbjj)

433 Chia is strong stuff, it'll put hair on your chest.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 14, 2022 09:10 AM (vwMFL)
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But will it put hair on your head? 'Cuz that's where I seem to missing it the most...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 14, 2022 09:15 AM (BpYfr)

434 Never watch Levin. He was a Never Trumper in 2016

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 09:15 AM (Cw0fX)

435 430 Britain has had 3 PM's in the last 6 months. How is that working?


I'd trade all three of them with lobotomies for Sloe Joe right now

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 14, 2022 09:15 AM (w0NJk)

436 >>I dunno how much shady shit FTX was doing or how much - if any - US taxpayer money was sluicing through it via Ukraine, but it isn't too bad an idea at this point to just assume any news about perfidy and fraud is true.

One of the more amazing things to me is the control George Soros has had over the Democrat party for the last decade plus and how little he is ever mentioned or his influence really examined. It is enormous.

Likewise with the WEF which Soros is a big part of. Every part of the Democrat agenda from crime to cratering the economy and replacing it with a digital economy to support for Ukraine to socialism and of course globalism can be traced to the WEF. All of our globalist elite across the globe bow to them and follow their agenda. And for the most part they rarely if ever get talked about or targeted as the source of most of our worst current policies.

FTX was a corporate partner of the WEF and that means more than wearing their logo on a t-shirt.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 09:15 AM (ZLI7S)

437 ha

Tucker Carlson: Construction of Obama's temple was halted

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2022 09:16 AM (BRHaw)

438 Possibly foul their cheating on the ground
Not with the law

Posted by: Braenyard's phone at November 14, 2022 09:16 AM (rxLxm)

439 Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 09:14 AM (eYoxG)

When R's start committing fraud, they'll go to prison without a trial. That happened for protests, too.

Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:16 AM (Zzbjj)

440 the moral complexities of time travel

Irresistible hook (once again) for my short comic

Time Traveler's Conundrum
We had the best of intentions
http://bit.ly/rewrite-time

Posted by: mindful webworker - my hourglass is broken at November 14, 2022 09:16 AM (Wql2z)

441 >Britain has had 3 PM's in the last 6 months. How is that working?
Posted by: Jonah


well, all three seem to be in good mental health, so, better than us

Posted by: DB at November 14, 2022 09:16 AM (geLO8)

442 "Oopsies". Can't be tied back to a single person. Point is, it's not as easy to crack down on those conducting fraud as it is to make fraud difficult to conduct. In easy fraud states, even if Rs were to start committing fraud, it's unlikely much legal action could be taken.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy


How about firing everyone involved and barring them from ever working elections again? Anywhere.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2022 09:17 AM (OvB8Q)

443 Sure, he was right. But he also lost the election. That's unforgivable. You can argue he lost because of fraud, and it was so close, and I acknowledge all that.
But Trump failed to outrun the fraud; it actually worked.


I said at the time Trump should not have stepped down. The open theft in 2020 was likely to be repeated in the future since....why not...and here we are.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 14, 2022 09:17 AM (ESjRY)

444 Walker to win. Even if he does, the Senate is 50-50 with Kamel Toe the tie breaker. SSDD.

Posted by: Ziba at November

But the spotlight is on Manchin. Joe said he's closing coal. Manchin didn't get his payoff bribe vote regarding permitting. He either switches and has a chance at re-election in 2024, or retires. He's not getting re-elected as a Dem.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 14, 2022 09:17 AM (NW9xb)

445 415 Without the ability to win elections fairly there is no future. Trump was right.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 09:06 AM (ZLI7S)
==============
Sure, he was right. But he also lost the election. That's unforgivable. You can argue he lost because of fraud, and it was so close, and I acknowledge all that.
But Trump failed to outrun the fraud; it actually worked.

Peace and prosperity didn't overcome his chaotic presidency and the absolute war with the Propaganda machine.

And he's going to be 78.

I want younger, and I want to win.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2022 09:12 AM (sReWB)

We're probably not winning 2024 anyways, which woudl be the last time we'd run him.

Main drag on Trump's candidacy vs other candidates is his anti-corruption agenda. They didn't realize he was serious about draining the swamp in 2016, after 4 years of the money spigots being turned off they were out for blood. Gotta get the urban political machines to stand down to have a chance.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 14, 2022 09:17 AM (eYoxG)

446 well, all three seem to be in good mental health, so, better than us
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Snort.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 14, 2022 09:17 AM (RP+Jx)

447 434 Never watch Levin. He was a Never Trumper in 2016
_________

And a dupe for the all hands on deck for Ukraine, going so far as using the Putin's Puppet slur for anyone remotely questioning what was going on there. I wonder if / how he will cover the money laundering story.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 14, 2022 09:18 AM (fs1hN)

448 Pence is making me physically ill. Trump, apparently "endangered" him. Stupid Pence is part of this and I think he knows exactly which agency brought the "Hang Pence " sign and noose to the protest. It's always an inside job.

Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:18 AM (Zzbjj)

449 I don't think Manchin runs again.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 14, 2022 09:18 AM (PWvcU)

450 Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 14, 2022 09:18 AM (fs1hN)

I tend to doubt it, that might harm ZDogg

Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:18 AM (Zzbjj)

451 363. Huck , you do not lose election if you win a chamber.
Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 09:08 AM (Cw0fX)
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You delude yourself. I'm OK with that. But I try to judge elections by results, and the results are clearly a loss of staggering proportions.

Republicans lost all over the country, while running against a party led by a senile old criminal with the lowest popularity of a President in modern history, with a record of inflation, corruption, and economic malaise, a Putin led but Biden invited devastation in Europe, possible nuclear war, and fascism and censorship at home, covid social controls, and it goes on and on.

This is a loss of unprecedented level. So take your crumb sniffing to someone else. McConnell, McCarthy, McDaniel... their firings would merely be a good start.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2022 09:19 AM (aWUfj)

452 448 Pence is making me physically ill. Trump, apparently "endangered" him. Stupid Pence is part of this and I think he knows exactly which agency brought the "Hang Pence " sign and noose to the protest. It's always an inside job.
Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:18 AM (Zzbjj)

Again I say, for a guy who served as the VP in the deep state's most hated admin ever, he sure got off pretty damn light in terms of investigations and scrutiny.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 14, 2022 09:19 AM (KbCG3)

453 Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2022 09:12 AM (sReWB)

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Gee, you don't ask for much, do you?

Posted by: Ziba at November 14, 2022 09:19 AM (4h9M3)

454 What do you call sending 2 500 packs of voting machine ballots to a precinct with 2800 registered voters? Over 10 precincts!

Democracy!

Posted by: Rabid Leftist at November 14, 2022 09:20 AM (JCZqz)

455 One of the more amazing things to me is the control George Soros has had over the Democrat party for the last decade plus and how little he is ever mentioned or his influence really examined. It is enormous.

Sen Bob Menendez came out against Obama's Iran deal.

Immediately the press was talking about Menendez's underage hookers. Then Menendez gave up and got with the Obama program and the scandal went away.

This is how the junta maintains power.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 14, 2022 09:20 AM (ESjRY)

456 We created the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics!

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 14, 2022 09:20 AM (4I/2K)

457 Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2022 09:12 AM (sReWB)

Failed to out run the fraud? Seriously, that's failing? He should have anticipated that the dems would shut down counting and observation and use the time to create "ballots"? That's absurd

Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:20 AM (Zzbjj)

458 One of the more amazing things to me is the control George Soros has had over the Democrat party for the last decade plus and how little he is ever mentioned or his influence really examined. It is enormous.
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Uh oh, you mentioned Soros, so by definition that means you are an anti-semite, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Posted by: Dem Praetorian Guard (aka Media) at November 14, 2022 09:21 AM (fs1hN)

459 @434 Jonah- Yes he was a NeverTrumper for about fifteen minutes and then supported him fervently. He also put together exactly how the left would come after him with the Russia BS before Trump was even inaugurated just by reading newspaper articles by the left. Yeah, Levin, big time nevertrumper. Maybe you are Mark Levin because you've repeated in a few posts verbatim what he said on his show last night pertaining to the Red Wave.

Posted by: JROD at November 14, 2022 09:21 AM (IlL6s)

460 And a dupe for the all hands on deck for Ukraine

Remember Russia is the worst country in the world because their despot steals elections, starts wars around the world, and steals money from the Russia people.

Unlike, you know, our junta.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 14, 2022 09:21 AM (ESjRY)

461 a system that everywhere we lost where we could have and probably should have won though thoroughly corrupted was perfectly legal.
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Legal is not the same thing as legitimate.

Ballot harvesting does not produce representative government. Not in any way that the Founders would recognize.

Posted by: Methos at November 14, 2022 09:21 AM (kOpft)

462 If you meet a Pole, tell them "Yak show mush."

This is a greeting, for their yaks are very large.

Posted by: Pronoonces Wlocklawek Like A Pro at November 14, 2022 09:22 AM (XbY51)

463 Infuriating is the correct feeling I had over the w/e. Everyone knows we will lose the House as well. The bigger problem is that the GOP will not correct this listing ship. It is because of this that I am truly feeling great sadness.

Posted by: sidney at November 14, 2022 09:22 AM (Uy/WF)

464 Incredibly, even with the Senate now effectively lost and our hold on the House tenuous, Dave makes the case that there actually was a red wave election.

We lost. Yet the guy keeps making the case that, somehow, we won. Over and over and over again. He must be doing something right, because people keep listening.

Posted by: Jaguar at November 14, 2022 09:22 AM (go3dL)

465 440 the moral complexities of time travel

Irresistible hook (once again) for my short comic

Time Traveler's Conundrum
We had the best of intentions
http://bit.ly/rewrite-time
Posted by: mindful webworker - my hourglass is broken at November 14, 2022 09:16 AM (Wql2z)

Progressives since 1900:
We had the best of intentions
We had the worst of intentions

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2022 09:22 AM (BRHaw)

466 Sure, he was right. But he also lost the election. That's unforgivable. You can argue he lost because of fraud, and it was so close, and I acknowledge all that.
But Trump failed to outrun the fraud; it actually worked.

Peace and prosperity didn't overcome his chaotic presidency and the absolute war with the Propaganda machine.

And he's going to be 78.

I want younger, and I want to win.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2022 09:12 AM (sReWB)

Molly Ball's TIME article was the shot across the bow that was ignored because the first read of it was FRAUD. The real message is that the Dems co-opted the system to enable the delivery of votes where and when needed - and that corporations were in on it.

We could have the Second Coming of the Messiah on our side, but unless and until we come up with a competing - and competent - infrastructure response, we will never win another national election. Never.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 14, 2022 09:22 AM (y2RgW)

467 My guess is Youngkin is headed to replace Tim Kaine as a Senator in 2024. I doubt he really wants to run as President. DeSantis is moar powerful as Gov of Florida than as a candidate for Prez. Controlling FL means controlling GOP future.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 14, 2022 09:22 AM (RP+Jx)

468 444 But the spotlight is on Manchin. Joe said he's closing coal. Manchin didn't get his payoff bribe vote regarding permitting. He either switches and has a chance at re-election in 2024, or retires. He's not getting re-elected as a Dem.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 14, 2022 09:17 AM

Good thing there aren't any super squishes on the Republican side that could switch...

Posted by: Lisa Murkowski at November 14, 2022 09:22 AM (JCZqz)

469 >>Sure, he was right. But he also lost the election. That's unforgivable. You can argue he lost because of fraud, and it was so close, and I acknowledge all that.
But Trump failed to outrun the fraud; it actually worked.


I don't buy that at all. Trump was not responsible nor did he have any control over the election processes in GA, PA, WI AZ, etc.. He got more votes than any sitting president in history. Way more than Obama.

There was simply no way to overcome the level of coordinated cheating that went on in 2020. Nobody was overcoming that. Trump was fighting the establishment and their media partners and it was impossible to overcome.

He spent a year warning that a mass mail in voting system was an invitation to cheating and nobody did squat to stop it. Sometimes the cheaters win. Often as it turns out.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 09:22 AM (ZLI7S)

470
Again I say, for a guy who served as the VP in the deep state's most hated admin ever, he sure got off pretty damn light in terms of investigations and scrutiny.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 14, 2022 09:19 AM (KbCG3)

And a great big book deal, just like that Barr bastard. His book is launching, so we'll be seeing his pig face (come on he really has a pig face) quite a bit now. Is it a regionalism that he calls his wife "mother"?

Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:22 AM (Zzbjj)

471 Ever since Twitter has gotten so effective at preventing non-account holders from viewing twitter
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With Brave browser and even MS Edge, when the sign-in popup pops up, first hit the blue "Log In" bar, and in the second "Sign In To Twitter" popup, hit the left-hand corner, close-window's X and you can access the page fully. I don't have an account either, BTW.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at November 14, 2022 09:23 AM (yikp0)

472 Democrat in the AZ-1 declared victory on Friday, but lost to the republican over the weekend

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 09:23 AM (Cw0fX)

473 Democrats' messaging failure on inflation Inflation was the perfect topic for Republicans to run on; it's a gift from the universe to the opposition party, especially when it occurs world-wide.

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Except it's not occurring worldwide, and it only occurs because the feds - the only entity legally allowed to print or otherwise inflate the currency - is inflating the currency.

It's mind blowing that this is ever even a discussion. It's 6th grade civics.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 14, 2022 09:23 AM (VAy+Y)

474 He spent a year warning that a mass mail in voting system was an invitation to cheating and nobody did squat to stop it. Sometimes the cheaters win. Often as it turns out.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2022 09:22 AM (ZLI7S)

I wonder what Pence's "election integrity commission" was really up to.

Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:23 AM (Zzbjj)

475 after 4 years of the money spigots being turned off they were out for blood.


The rotation in industry enriching has been fascinating to watch.

First pharma got record profits with the COVID shots (every company developed one at the same time, amazing!)

Then big oil got well with increased unit prices.

Now, MIC has a new forever war.

Next, central bankers get their windfall with jacked up interest rates and loans to faltering European economies.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 14, 2022 09:24 AM (vwMFL)

476 467 My guess is Youngkin is headed to replace Tim Kaine as a Senator in 2024. I doubt he really wants to run as President. DeSantis is moar powerful as Gov of Florida than as a candidate for Prez. Controlling FL means controlling GOP future.
Posted by: Puddinhead at November 14, 2022 09:22 AM (RP+Jx)

Youngkin is prepping for a POTUS run. Mentioned this before, but at the Stefanowski-Youngkin fundraiser that I attended last month, Y's POTUS plans were publicly floated among the big-money crowd that night. He didn't shoot them down. At all.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 14, 2022 09:24 AM (y2RgW)

477 Slaynews: Maricopa County Election Judge claims voting machines were programmed to reject Republican ballots.

Good luck with that.

Posted by: Ziba at November 14, 2022 09:24 AM (4h9M3)

478 Chia is strong stuff, it'll put hair on your chest.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 14, 2022 09:10 AM (vwMFL)
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But will it put hair on your head? 'Cuz that's where I seem to missing it the most...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

The older I get, the more my hairline recedes. And the more my hairline recedes the faster and thicker my nasal hair grows !

Posted by: JT at November 14, 2022 09:25 AM (T4tVD)

479 464 Incredibly, even with the Senate now effectively lost and our hold on the House tenuous, Dave makes the case that there actually was a red wave election.

We lost. Yet the guy keeps making the case that, somehow, we won. Over and over and over again. He must be doing something right, because people keep listening.
Posted by: Jaguar at November 14, 2022 09:22 AM (go3dL)


He didn't say we won. He said there was a red wave. The factors that gave the Dems the W is the issue.

Listen to the podcast.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 14, 2022 09:25 AM (x0n13)

480 The frightening thing is...it might well.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 14, 2022 09:12 AM (m/T6g)

The electorate was unhappy about inflation and job loss, but decided they wanted more of the same? Then they deserve more of the same.

Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:25 AM (Zzbjj)

481 It occured to me that the Dems need one House in marginal Rep control, in order to blame them for the chaos and destruction that is coming.

Posted by: kraken at November 14, 2022 09:26 AM (Vr12I)

482 444. Well said on Manchin. Maybe they bribe him with a better chairmanship to stay.

WV GOP needs to attack Manchin now on the 87k IRS agents etc.. pummell the bastard into retirement. Make it impossible for a libeterian to get on the ballot. Fund a liberal dem to run as a indy

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 09:26 AM (Cw0fX)

483 The only way Walker wins is if Biden still wants to handicap the Dem party into keeping him b/c if it's 50-50 in the Senate, they can't take him out for Kamala b/c they lose the Senate and can't even replace the VP (we'll hear "no replacing in last 2 years").

Literally, if the Dems decide to work the vote (aka, not pay and harvest their voters), Walker can win the low turnout election...

But that's it...

Posted by: Nova local at November 14, 2022 09:26 AM (exHjb)

484 >I wonder what Pence's "election integrity commission" was really up to.

Posted by: CN


ensuring there was none?

Posted by: DB at November 14, 2022 09:26 AM (geLO8)

485 GOP House may keep us out recession. Adults in the room, like Gingrich in the 90's

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 09:27 AM (Cw0fX)

486 379 McConnell is a front for CCP and won't be easily replaced.
Posted by: Braenyard's phone at November 14, 2022 09:03 AM (rxLxm)

"He who has ears, let him hear."

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at November 14, 2022 09:27 AM (MkuC5)

487 Also: no more elderly politicians please

Posted by: DB at November 14, 2022 09:27 AM (geLO8)

488 I am hoping SBF is dragged away from Bahama's and dies in prison, but I suspect that Garland will make no effort to prosecute. And unlike the GOP, Garland will be impervious to negative reactions, after all his side can manufacture ballots.

Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:27 AM (Zzbjj)

489 I wonder what Pence's "election integrity commission" was really up to.
Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:23 AM (Zzbjj)
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Nothing. The commission was called and most of the states told it - and him - to fuck off. Elections are a state matter and the states chose not to participate.

I am now confident that if the commission hadn't been torpedoed out of the gate, Pence would have done the wrong thing with it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 09:27 AM (t0OGg)

490 Youngkin is prepping for a POTUS run. Mentioned this before, but at the Stefanowski-Youngkin fundraiser that I attended last month, Y's POTUS plans were publicly floated among the big-money crowd that night. He didn't shoot them down. At all.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 14, 2022 09:24 AM (y2RgW)

Would be kind of silly to essentially say, "No, please don't give me a shit ton of money."

That said, not sure I see Youngkin as a viable candidate when Trump and Desantis are on the stage.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 14, 2022 09:27 AM (KbCG3)

491 Forget about killing baby Hitler. Throttle baby Marx instead.

Meh. Marx didn't do anything. The people who want to be unquestioned kings but obviously can't tell the masses they need to put them in charge would just have used a different cover philosophy to lie with.

Posted by: azjaeger at November 14, 2022 09:28 AM (3/XaG)

492 ensuring there was none?
Posted by: DB at November 14, 2022 09:26 AM (geLO

That elbow bump with Pelosi needs to be seen over and over again.

Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:28 AM (Zzbjj)

493 Ballot harvesting does not produce representative government. Not in any way that the Founders would recognize.
Posted by: Methos at November 14, 2022 09:21 AM

Who cares what those old racist white men wanted!?!?

Posted by: Rabid Leftist at November 14, 2022 09:28 AM (JCZqz)

494 Amazing. We get a flip in oregon, 4 flips in Ny

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 09:28 AM (Cw0fX)

495
If you get rid of Engles, Marx is just a crazy guy screaming in the park.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 14, 2022 09:28 AM (ESjRY)

496 481 It occured to me that the Dems need one House in marginal Rep control, in order to blame them for the chaos and destruction that is coming.
Posted by: kraken at November 14, 2022 09:26 AM (Vr12I)

This, for me, is why the 2022 result is not that bad, in the short-term. Over the next two years, we need to work putting the infrastructure together that can effectively deliver a message that works for the GOP 2024 nominee.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 14, 2022 09:28 AM (y2RgW)

497 Mail in voting and drop box voting and collecting ballots is cheating. PERIOD, END OF DISCUSSION. And we will continue to lose if this continues. It is rampant in the Black Inner Cities

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 14, 2022 09:29 AM (dO/0d)

498 Doug Ducey ruined AZ. Frickin McSally and helped passed mail balloting

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 09:29 AM (Cw0fX)

499 So my wife with 3 degrees and 40 years experience in the healthcare rehabilitation industry works with 3 or 4 younger people in mental crisis health now. She wanted a 2 to 3 day job less physically demanding.

She is blatantly disrespected and insulted by 2 of the group. Under 30, white women, social work degrees and less than 4 years out of school.

I had to explain to my wife she is the PROBLEM. White, well-educated, and upper middle class. She is now realizing that these young women are now putting into the workplace the ideas they were taught in college. My wife did not think it was funny when I said well in 20 years they will be the old white women that DESERVE to be disrespected.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 14, 2022 09:29 AM (BRHaw)

500 485 GOP House may keep us out recession. Adults in the room, like Gingrich in the 90's


sweet summer child. I hope you're right of course

but honestly, the economy is totally FUBAR

Posted by: BlackOrchidDancingByMyself at November 14, 2022 09:29 AM (w0NJk)

501 The 2022 Great Disappointment happened because of a lot of things, process things, and tactical things.

The process things are pretty much what Michael Walsh and JJ listed: Early voting, ballot harvesting fraud, etc., etc.

The tactical things: Republicans really have to focus on state-level judiciary and Secretary of State races. Dem partisan judges have put their thumbs on the scales of justice in too many state races, slowing down rulings against Dem shenanigans until well after the election, and ruling quickly against GOP infractions. A lot of the problems we face during elections are because judges (and governors) aren't following existing rules.

The GOP did NOT nationalize the mid term elections. There were no unifying themes and specific solutions to existing problems that would give LIV voters a reason to vote for Republicans. Kevin McCarthy's attempt was weak sauce. The Republcans also didn't have a an effective response team to counter unconstitutional power-grabs like Biden's student loan "debt forgiveness".

Posted by: mrp at November 14, 2022 09:30 AM (6eRlp)

502 If it is never enforced, is it a crime?

Everything the Left does to oppress freedom of speech, and everything they do to advance gun control, is a direct violation of law. That law was specifically written to rein in legislatures in the deep south who were writing Jim Crow laws to take rights from former slaves, after the Civil War, so it absolutely applies to legislators, politicians, federal agents, etc.

Here is the applicable text:"If two or more persons conspire to injure, OPPRESS, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of ANY right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution..."(emphasis added) potentially a capital crime.

That law is not being enforced because of prosecutorial discretion. Does that make the actions legal?

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 14, 2022 09:30 AM (CecP5)

503 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 14, 2022 09:30 AM (Zz0t1)

504 Youngkin maybe as VP, but not prez. He is term limited, so the black woman would become Governor.

Take out crazy Tim Kain I say

Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 09:31 AM (Cw0fX)

505 fart thread up

Posted by: DB at November 14, 2022 09:31 AM (geLO8)

506 "I call it sabotage. And it is. I also think that turning the cameras off for 8 hours, then the Republicans magically lose, sabotage, too." Posted by: CN

There are "conspiracy theories", but there is very real conspiracy, and most of it is criminal. When it gets big enough it is organized crime, and or treason/sedition.

We are still on a "war footing" against "terror". Garland says "we" are domestic terrorists, but that is projecting. THEY are the domestic terrorists ... so it is treason.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 14, 2022 09:31 AM (Cus5s)

507 It occured to me that the Dems need one House in marginal Rep control, in order to blame them for the chaos and destruction that is coming.



It also maintains the illusion of choice.

When people feel they have no choice, well....

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 14, 2022 09:31 AM (vwMFL)

508 For JROD:

It's not the crime:

https://youtu.be/eizrQqhb1qY

Posted by: pawn at November 14, 2022 09:31 AM (wsHtO)

509 GOP House may keep us out recession. Adults in the room, like Gingrich in the 90's
Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 09:27 AM (Cw0fX)
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They will do nothing of the sort.

Assume the GOP takes a majority and has, say, 2-3 seats of buffer. They will be able to do some work in the committees to keep the absolutely worst legislation off the floor (and they probably even will do that work, on occasion but not regularly), but they will pass every funding bill and every increase and anything that's to "advance democracy" overseas.

The Democrats will get most if not all of what they want out of a Republican House, especially if the Irish Twins remain in place.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2022 09:32 AM (t0OGg)

510 Good morning. Thank you, Mr Sefton.
I am not so optimistic, alas, even though I could use some optimism (regarding our country) right now.

"Then he said his mind was open to going. Finally he went."
Ah. So Sunak's handlers read him the iot act.

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at November 14, 2022 09:32 AM (Rbu5d)

511 476 467 My guess is Youngkin is headed to replace Tim Kaine as a Senator in 2024. I doubt he really wants to run as President. DeSantis is moar powerful as Gov of Florida than as a candidate for Prez. Controlling FL means controlling GOP future.
Posted by: Puddinhead at November 14, 2022 09:22 AM (RP+Jx)

Youngkin is prepping for a POTUS run. Mentioned this before, but at the Stefanowski-Youngkin fundraiser that I attended last month, Y's POTUS plans were publicly floated among the big-money crowd that night. He didn't shoot them down. At all.
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Maybe. All Pols want Big Money to think well of them particularly while fund raising. I just think knocking off Kaine is easier than taking on NY Organized Crime Syndicate for Prez. Senators last a lot longer than Presidents.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 14, 2022 09:33 AM (RP+Jx)

512 "Forgotten Twilight Zone episode nailed the moral complexities of time travel."
How Pop Culture Tackled the "Kill Baby Hitler" Question


A big part of the problem is the Democrats/Left/Commies/Socialist no longer see us as fellow citizens competing for the running of the country.
Look at their words and actions. Every single thing that happens, that comes out of their mouths, that they think is the desire to Kill Baby Hitler.

And we're Baby Hitler.
That's the morality of the people we face.

Destroy the economy? Hahaha, Baby Hitler going to be poor. See, how he likes that.
Cut off children's sex organs and render them sterile? Hahaha, Baby Hitler can stop us from mutilating him or any children he might have?
No food but bugs? Hahaha, Baby Hitler has to eat Roach Loaf while I can eat whatever I like!

And on and on.

Pro Tip: "By whatever means" really means by whatever means. And by whatever means...the Democrats want to kill Baby Hitler.

We've got to find a way to get into the "legal" voting game.

In the meantime, state governors better step up. To protect their citizens. Cuz the next two years, Yeesh!

Posted by: naturalfake at November 14, 2022 09:33 AM (KLPy8)

513 They fraud their way in. And until the ways to fraud are removed, we're stuck.

Posted by: setnaffa at November 14, 2022 09:34 AM (bYETr)

514 Went looking and I can't find anything about Hobbs saying she will win. She is still keeping quiet.

She knows the results now, the Maricopa ballots are counted, just not reported.

My pessimism is based on the gap Lake has to make up out of the remaining drop. I would expect something to leak if Hobbs knows she has won.

This is not me being optimistic, just noticing a weird behavior pattern.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 14, 2022 09:34 AM (5p7BC)

515 We are still on a "war footing" against "terror". Garland says "we" are domestic terrorists, but that is projecting. THEY are the domestic terrorists ... so it is treason.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 14, 2022 09:31 AM (Cus5s)

Our federal govt is definitely organized crime.

Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:34 AM (Zzbjj)

516 If you get rid of Engles, Marx is just a crazy guy screaming in the park.

And if you get rid of Ingels, John Astin is just a workaday carpenter. The little dickens.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 14, 2022 09:37 AM (x61Im)

517 I guess they have achieved their goal.Permanent Democrat rule. We the people cannot even have a say in who our own leaders are in DC. We will get McConnell and McCarthy good and hard as well well as the Democrat beatings.

Posted by: AnnaS at November 14, 2022 09:38 AM (l4l/z)

518 Sabotage is the answer
Sabotage mail in voteing
Sabotage theirs game

Posted by: Braenyard's phone at November 14, 2022 09:39 AM (SUEEh)

519 > "Yes, suggests a lawsuit from a fired Vatican auditor."
Did Pope Francis Protect His Graft-Ridden Cardinals?

Meh... it's happened before.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 14, 2022 09:40 AM (bW8dp)

520 Clearly what GOPers need is lots of found Thumbies.

Posted by: Puddinhead at November 14, 2022 09:42 AM (RP+Jx)

521 > If you get rid of Engles, Marx is just a crazy guy screaming in the park.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 14, 2022 09:28 AM (ESjRY)

Well, some of the time. Some of his time was spent impregnating the servant girl, then forcing her to give the kid up for adoption.

Oddly, I've seen no call for "canceling" Marx.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 14, 2022 09:42 AM (bW8dp)

522 Before go, have said for two years
They hid, cried and screamed no fraud so they could do it again

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 14, 2022 09:47 AM (ie5So)

523 Or dumping McCarthy after the guy still won the House. Guarantee you that at least 2 of those new NY Reps on Long Island would switch parties
Posted by: Jonah at November 14, 2022 08:54 AM (Cw0fX)

As opposed to stabbing us in the back only when we really need them?

Pass.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at November 14, 2022 09:50 AM (53oGX)

524 Forget the nonsense about a "stolen" election; all elections are "stolen..."

What tacit nonsense.
We need to stop playing by the Democrat's rules and need to focus on voting reform, voting reform, and voting reform, and constantly point out that the existing power structure, from the President to the Senate Majority leader, are illegitimate.
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The Democrats project their own sins on their opponents, so when they accuse Republicans of threatening democracy, they are signaling that they have, in fact, undermined the whole process. That is likely the only way to abolish the current kleptocracy and return to a republican governance.
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TLR, "Old man yells at cloud."

Posted by: Keith at November 14, 2022 09:59 AM (qNKzE)

525 I agree with Dave and all of your analysis, JJ. I live in MN House 32B which is red, but we flipped our leftist school board and city council.

Ballots matter more than voters in eight states and until those states stop mail-in we are effed. Here in MN democrats run every.single.thing in St.Paul, including Tim Jong Walz' hand picked 'supreme court', so we are effed here for a long time.

Posted by: Danimal28 at November 14, 2022 10:13 AM (klw0w)

526 The very idea that we can change a system in which our votes cant count to begin with is ludicrous!

Posted by: AnnaS at November 14, 2022 10:35 AM (l4l/z)

527 I don't know why anyone would have expected any other result last Tuesday. And the rosy red wave chatter was no less destructive of morale than Old Scratch hisself taking off the old Joe mask at a press availability; those who pushed it, well, I have no use for them in any way except as dead parrots. Pining pollys. Singing the Norwegian blues.

Posted by: Oh look! Squirrel in the road. ThumpThump at November 14, 2022 10:52 AM (64PZ4)

528 With friends of the blog like that, who needs enemies.

New York conservative's. Just this side of worthless.

Posted by: DOYLE at November 14, 2022 11:08 AM (Z8Yh2)

529 Failed to out run the fraud? Seriously, that's failing? He should have anticipated that the dems would shut down counting and observation and use the time to create "ballots"? That's absurd
Posted by: CN at November 14, 2022 09:20 AM (Zzbjj)
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You might like dreaming of a world with only perfectly clean elections, and where the deserving candidate always wins. it's obviously nothing more than a fantasy, but I understand the urge.

Here in America we live with imperfect elections and a rough give-and-take set of laws. Trump attacked the steal as best he could, but his best was a failure. That's the essential point: Even running in 2020 on a tremendous policy record as President, and against a weak opponent, he did not win. Running in 2024 bitterly opposed by a huge segment of voters (not to mention the Propaganda machine), he will obviously lose again.

If one accepts the premise he was defrauded of the Presidency, and the only cure is to run him again, that seems like the most destructive sort of monomania to me. The Biden Junta years are showing us exactly how damaging it is, in fact. For the good of the country, move on.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2022 11:21 AM (Gwe14)

530 528 With friends of the blog like that, who needs enemies.

New York conservative's. Just this side of worthless.
Posted by: DOYLE at November 14, 2022 11:08 AM (Z8Yh2)


So, okay. I take it you disagree with Michael Walsh. Can you actually elucidate WHY you disagree with him in more than a single-sentence swipe, and make a point that perhaps I and others might agree with?

I guess not.

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Posted by: catalyst at November 15, 2022 07:17 AM (xGVjN)

532 With all due respect to you, your friend Dave can suck it.

Mail-in ballots should be ILLEGAL and are in states that enforce sane election laws. The Republicans have made this argument convincingly. Mail ballots aren't physically verified and get deliberately mixed in with ballots cast in person. No sane government should allow this to happen and what the Republicans should have been doing the last two years, is taking every state to court that now have mail-in balloting. But they didn't and now they are where they are. This is why longtime, traditional Republican voters are DONE with the Republicans. They do nothing but react, whereas the Left is always planning, scheming and working loopholes they can find to manipulate the laws - or circumvent them - to their advantage. Just because they do all that DOESN'T make it right or lawful. Rigging an outcome is still CHEATING. And now the Republicans answer is "we need to do that too." WTF?!? So much for your Law and Order Party. That's just a meaningless campaign slogan.

2020: NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE

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