Who gets to choose the experts?

In January 2007, a bronze statue by Auguste Rodin (1840-1917), the Thinker, disappeared from the sculpture garden of the Singer Museum in Laren. Shortly after the theft, the bronze was retrieved, albeit heavily damaged.

More than 70 "Thinkers" were cast, in 3 different sizes. Maybe we need more thinkers today.

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Experts in Health Care

When I was working in the pharmaceutical industry, many member states of the EU decided to cooperate in the drug approval process, to cut down on duplication of effort and expense. One of the features they set up was a list of "agreed-upon experts" (experts agréés). These were generally people with extensive academic backgrounds and many publications, though they also often had some real-world experience as well. Individuals could apply to become "agreed-upon experts". Often, a pharmaceutical company would help prepare an application for an expert they knew.

These people were relied upon when they wrote "expert opinions" which included evaluation of certain data (related to their areas of expertise) which was being submitted for approval of a pharmaceutical product.

I don't know if experts agréés are still a feature of pharmaceutical regulation in the EU. But I have some questions about how people in other fields become "agreed-upon experts"?

On a related note, has any responsible group publicly evaluated whether Anthony Fauci was the person most suited for his position during all the decades he has filled it? He gives opinions on pharmaceuticals to large populations, among other things. It's not like he has never flubbed up during his career. Could he have qualified as an expert agréé in the EU's pharmaceutical regulatory scheme midway through his career?

Glenn Reynolds reminded us in August that Fauci and other health 'experts' messed up the response to monkeypox just as they did the response to COVID, Ebola and AIDS.

Once, I believed that the world is run by experts who know what to do. I believed that the best answer to a crisis is to listen to the experts and do what they say because they know best and can be trusted to have our interests at heart.
Yeah, I was an idiot. In my defense, I was young. Now I know better. . .

And of course, the CDC's performance during the 1980s AIDS outbreak, when Fauci first became famous, was abysmal. Fauci in particular pushed the false notion that run-of-the-mill heterosexuals were at risk for AIDS in the same fashion as gays and intravenous-drug users, which wasn't true. It both spread unnecessary fear and diluted efforts to aid at-risk populations. There's not much of a learning curve here.
We'd like to live in a world where we can trust the experts, both to know what to do and to promote policies that will help us. But we don't live in that world. Maybe we need better experts. The ones we have don't seem especially expert at all.

There has been a lot of incompetence throughout the CDC, FDA, and related agencies, but it was Fauci who came to think that he represented "science" and became a bobblehead. Who let him come to think that way?

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Experts in Education

Ed Morrissey rips up The New Yorker's mourning session over the success of parental activism in school board contests in the recent election. There are some real details about how long the fight against Critical Race Theory indoctrination has been going on.

This is a fundamental area where advances have been made and where it is crucial not to let up. And some parents may even want to consider home schooling.

I ran across a story this week that is even more fundamental: how children are being taught (or not being taught) to read. Some of the dismal educational outcomes we have had lately must be related to the failure of people to challenge "experts" who had already been refuted by science. I remember my mother telling me that educators had been working on removing teaching of phonics to young readers even when I was learning to read. She and my elementary school teachers knew this was dumb even back then:

There's an idea about how children learn to read that's held sway in schools for more than a generation -- even though it was proven wrong by cognitive scientists decades ago. Teaching methods based on this idea can make it harder for children to learn how to read. In this podcast, host Emily Hanford investigates the influential authors who promote this idea and the company that sells their work. It's an exposé of how educators came to believe in something that isn't true and are now reckoning with the consequences -- children harmed, money wasted, an education system upended.

One heartbreaking aspect of the podcast (I listened to a little of it) is that parents did not talk to administrators even after they had figured out what was wrong and had taken steps to help their own kids, because they didn't want to be "problem parents". This confuses "nice" with "kind".

And then there is this reaction:

I’m currently listening to a podcast. It’s chilling. It’s shaking me. It’s making me feel overwhelming grief.
And I don’t know if I could tell my employer that I’m listening to it.

I’m a teacher. https://t.co/gHUzUgeVp8
— Jay Mac (@jayninemac) November 6, 2022

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Experts in Critical Social Justice

This week, as the US prepares for the midterm elections, the progressive left is going all out to bring home the message that this is a battle for the soul of the country. Former president Barack Obama implored voters to cast ballots for the Democratic Party because, according to him: "the only way to save democracy is if we fight for it." How exactly are the Democrats fighting for democracy?By inviting adult men who identify as little girls to town halls at the White House.
Being a girl is not a fetish. Yet you wouldn't know that, based on the rise of adult men who have gone one step further from identifying as women and have started to build careers by identifying into girlhood itself. Society has gotten used to girlhood being commodified through pornography, where "barely legal" remains a highly popular genre, and Halloween costumes sexualise the aesthetics of girlhood. Something that few could have anticipated has been that through the rise of "gender identity" policies, men who identify as girls would be celebrated by the highest spheres of political power. This is a dystopian step that shows how far removed left-wing political parties have become from reality.

On 24 October, US President Joe Biden sat down with social media influencer Dylan Mulvaney to discuss gender identity policies during a presidential forum, held by left-wing outlet NowThis. The purpose of the forum was to host "intimate conversations between Biden and young change-makers focused on finding solutions to some of the most critical issues facing their generation". The conversation between Biden and Mulvaney focused on the protection of "gender-affirming care", which consists of medical treatments and intervention to try to physically transform people into the opposite sex.

Dylan Mulvaney does not seem to be taking hormones, nor has he had "gender-affirming" surgery. Why was he chosen for this interview?

What exactly does it mean to "identify as a girl"? According to Mulvaney, being a girl is an exciting adventure through endless outfit changes, playing with make-up and bouncing up and down looking ridiculous. "Days of Girlhood" represents a pantomime of what men envision girlhood to be like.
Wearing baby pink glitter eyeshadow and a pink dress over a pink background, Mulvaney introduced the "Days of Girlhood" by summarising what girlhood meant to him: "Day 1 of being a girl and I have already cried 3 times. I wrote a scathing email that I did not send. I ordered dresses online that I couldn't afford. And then, when someone asked me how I was, I said 'I'm fine', when I wasn't fine. How did I do, ladies? Girlpower!" Mulvaney announced this in his TikTok video whilst nervously putting on lip gloss, playing on the trope that women are perpetually hungry for external validation.

Will "influencers" be our future experts?

Meanwhile, in the schools, can we refrain from suggesting that 12 year old girls who are uncertain if they are transgender should bunk with boys? Or do the experts say they must?

On the favorite Anti-capitalist Antiracist Expert of the billionaire class:

Glen Loury can't take much more of Ibram X. Kendi. John McWhorter reacts.

Then The Woke Temple reacts:

The Woke Temple stopped doing satire last year. But this video brought me so much joy that I had to resurrect this meme . . . 😁😂 Thank you, @JohnHMcWhorter and @GlennLoury. You made my day. 🙏🏽 pic.twitter.com/EejOJxFwBd
— The Woke Temple (@WokeTemple) November 2, 2022

Of course, criticizing ANY scholarship in the Grievance Studies is tricky business. Is this how experts are chosen in these fields?

Experts in Economics

About 4 months ago, in connection with a survey, Hillsdale College wrote:

A recent Time magazine story featured the headline, "The Free Market is Dead: What Will Replace It?"
This is, of course, an exaggeration, but it makes clear the far-Left's goal -- nothing less than a transformation of the world economy based on a rejection of economist Adam Smith's "invisible hand."
As the author writes, "We are on the cusp of a new era of broad-based prosperity in which our leaders are poised to more actively manage the American market."
Today's advocates of a "managed market" may call it by a new name -- "The Great Reset" -- but it is premised on an old and harmful idea.

What utopian ideologies like this one have in common is a misplaced faith in the rule of so-called experts and a corresponding disregard for the people's right to rule themselves. Taken to their logical conclusion, such ideologies can end only in tyranny. . .

(Emphasis mine.)

Who gets to choose the economic experts? Who will choose the future experts?

How have the ones we now have been doing lately?

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Weekend Irony

Machines will be able to win gymnastic competitions before they can accurately count votes in Arizona https://t.co/YZadDsii4B
— John Hayward (@Doc_0) November 9, 2022

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Music

In Thursday's Midnight Sonata for Elephant Cafe, Ace included not only Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata played for an old elephant, but also a tweet which included a link to a Fritz Kreisler arrangement of the Rachmaninoff: Preghiera (Piano Concerto No.2 2nd movement), for piano and violin. For some reason, I got a different performance at first, which was nice, even though not recorded in a studio. A different arrangement.

And then this trio came up. This is a piano trio version of Rachmaninov's/Kreisler's "Preghiera" by Ernst Ueckermann. Reminds me of the Kreisler trios I heard in our living room growing up. Fritz Kreisler did a lot of great arrangements for strings. And some compositions, too. My Mom played several of them.

Do you prefer the duet or the trio?

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, the Thread before the Gardening Thread, November 5 - Flags, surveying, California news and history.

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Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 12, 2022 11:11 AM (Q4IgG)

2 Our experts ain't.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 12, 2022 11:12 AM (6VKyY)

3 Hollered at the others

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 12, 2022 11:13 AM (Q4IgG)

4 Glenn Reynolds recently mentioned getting his fourth or fifth booster.

So despite all his big talk, he still trusts experts.

Posted by: tsj017 at November 12, 2022 11:14 AM (YcOm1)

5 Every doctor is an 'expert' in the medical field,

Ponder that.

Posted by: polynikes at November 12, 2022 11:15 AM (Kme0F)

6 Willowed:

More on the dam explosion:
Apparently the Russians blew the bridge atop it, as well as a section of the dam. See the photos in the link. British MoD says it is "highly likely" the dam was blown by the Russians. No kidding.
https://tinyurl.com/29v94kv2

They blew the Antonovsky Bridge a couple of days ago, which was the other major bridge, so now there is no easy access point for the Ukes to cross the Dnieper. OTOH, the Russians no longer have uninterrupted land access to Crimea, since the routes there are now within artillery range.

A pro-Russian spokesman says that there isn't enough of the dam missing to cause a major flood downstream, but that something could happen in the future.

Nice city you got there. Pity if something happened to it.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 12, 2022 11:15 AM (eOEVl)

7 when it comes to gubmint:
Expert = consultant = technocrat = fast talkin conman

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 12, 2022 11:16 AM (2xlV3)

8 We used to have a saying in IT: an expert is someone one chapter ahead of you in the manual.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 12, 2022 11:17 AM (6VKyY)

9 Hollering at otters doesn't accomplish anything.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 12, 2022 11:17 AM (Qzn2/)

10 Good rule of thumb. If you aee someone’s LinkedIn bio with the word expert or leader, stay the fuck away from them.

Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 11:18 AM (b99Ap)

11

Hello 7th Fleet!

Posted by: Shemp Smith, Expert, and Spurting, Sploogist at November 12, 2022 11:20 AM (TcQeK)

12 Mc3 must go.

Posted by: I Mean at November 12, 2022 11:20 AM (iVvBF)

13 My dad told me an "expert" was a drip under pressure.

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2022 11:21 AM (AwYPR)

14 So despite all his big talk, he still trusts experts.

Because he thinks he isone. Although he's self-aware enough not to say so out loud.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 12, 2022 11:22 AM (nfrXX)

15 4 Glenn Reynolds recently mentioned getting his fourth or fifth booster.

So despite all his big talk, he still trusts experts.
Posted by: tsj017
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Alternatively, he is being paid just like the infomercial people to endorse a product that he is actually not consuming.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 11:22 AM (CXr4y)

16 5 Every doctor is an 'expert' in the medical field,
Ponder that.
Posted by: polynikes

The field of medicine is so vast no individual can become an expert in even one single subspecially.

Posted by: Ponder This at November 12, 2022 11:23 AM (TcQeK)

17 And of course, the CDC's performance during the 1980s AIDS outbreak, when Fauci first became famous, was abysmal. Fauci in particular pushed the false notion that run-of-the-mill heterosexuals were at risk for AIDS in the same fashion as gays and intravenous-drug users, which wasn't true. It both spread unnecessary fear and diluted efforts to aid at-risk populations. There's not much of a learning curve here.

There is a good read "The Wisdom of Whores: Bureaucrats, Brothels and the Business of AIDS" where the title pretty much sums up the content. Epidemiologists were paid to return an assessment that met the expectations of the bureaucrats and businesses that profited heavily from the handling of AIDS.

Ironically, we can thank evangelical leaders who gave permission to 'W' to open the flood gates of money to NGOs and businesses when the clergy convinced their sheep that AIDS will kill them in their sleep and turned the public conscience into another episode of FUD and Mass Formation Psychosis.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 12, 2022 11:23 AM (3hSHB)

18 This confuses "nice" with "kind".

***

Sometimes they are antonyms.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 12, 2022 11:23 AM (2xlV3)

19 Malcolm Gladwell came up with the 10,000 hour rule to be an expert. It’s kinda stupid since 10k hours is 5 years of a full time job.iBut it seems to have gained prominence, ironically enough, because Gladwell fancies himself an expert on matters like these.

Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 11:24 AM (b99Ap)

20 I’m glad Oz lost. I couldn’t stand that guy.

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It was like King Kong v. Godzilla; no matter who wins, we lose.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2022 11:24 AM (FVME7)

21 4 Glenn Reynolds recently mentioned getting his fourth or fifth booster.
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My doctor just got a booster

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 12, 2022 11:25 AM (2xlV3)

22 Figured I'd post this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Mj4Nv_ip0

Rick Beato (a music expert??) doing a 10 minute tribute to the band, Low, and the singer Mimi Parker, who died recently.

Low is not for everybody, fit into the slowcore category about as well as anybody. Particularly, if you are willing to take the time, listen to the full version of the song, Lullaby. Good grief, what a gorgeous, sad, beautiful song, every second of it. It's brought me to tears many times, and I'm not entirely sure why, other than its abstract and heavy emotionality.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 11:25 AM (NWBBy)

23 Because he thinks he isone. Although he's self-aware enough not to say so out loud.
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In his field of law, he most probably is one. Regarding health, probably not other than any other informed consumer.

One of the worst features of today's society is assuming an expert in one field is an expert in all. Even in some specialties, most have a cursory knowledge of a lot of their field but have deep specialty in only a couple of particular areas.

Medical field is the best example of this because they specifically name the specialists.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 11:25 AM (CXr4y)

24 Good rule of thumb. If you aee someone’s LinkedIn bio with the word expert or leader, stay the fuck away from them.

So it was shrewd for me to add search-buzz words like "flunky", "minion" and "lackey" to my profile.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 12, 2022 11:25 AM (3hSHB)

25 Rick Beato (a music expert??) doing a 10 minute tribute to the band, Low, and the singer Mimi Parker, who died recently.

Low is not for everybody, fit into the slowcore category about as well as anybody. Particularly, if you are willing to take the time, listen to the full version of the song, Lullaby. Good grief, what a gorgeous, sad, beautiful song, every second of it. It's brought me to tears many times, and I'm not entirely sure why, other than its abstract and heavy emotionality. Posted by: BurtTC
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Beato is a musician and a music enthusiast. I like to watch some of his shows.

Thanks for posting this. I will take a listen.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 11:26 AM (CXr4y)

26 Every doctor is an 'expert' in the medical field,

***

I am the world's leading expert on me

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 12, 2022 11:27 AM (2xlV3)

27

I think I know what I don't know, but I don't know that I don't know what I don't know. I think.

Posted by: Ponder This at November 12, 2022 11:27 AM (TcQeK)

28 Dammit, you all left be down below with the troll. Now I need a shower.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 12, 2022 11:27 AM (5p7BC)

29 My doctor just got a booster

Posted by: vmom
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Make sure you figure out who might be a replacement if he falls ill.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 11:27 AM (CXr4y)

30 So it was shrewd for me to add search-buzz words like "flunky", "minion" and "lackey" to my profile.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 12, 2022 11:25 AM (3hSHB)

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PRO TIP: You're ignoring half the market if you omit "lickspittle."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 12, 2022 11:27 AM (Qzn2/)

31 Malcolm Gladwell came up with the 10,000 hour rule to be an expert. It’s kinda stupid since 10k hours is 5 years of a full time job.

Read The Talent Code. According to Coyle (heh), it's not just 10,000 hours of doing something. It's 10,000 hours of intense, conscious, self-critical practice. Anyone who's really tried knows that's hard to do for more than a few minutes at a time. Nobody can do it for eight hours a day.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 12, 2022 11:28 AM (nfrXX)

32 An expert is someone that used to spurt.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at November 12, 2022 11:29 AM (I9VC/)

33 28 Dammit, you all left be down below with the troll. Now I need a shower.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

Like wrestling with a pig eh. You get all dirty from the pigpen but the pig likes it just fine.

I like what old Speaker Sam said in the day, Any jackass can tear down a barn but only a skilled carpenter can build one.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 11:29 AM (CXr4y)

34 Our experts ain't.

X = Unknown
spurt = release of compressed liquid

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 12, 2022 11:31 AM (3hSHB)

35 I loved phonics as a kid. I would teach it to others just to share the fun.

Posted by: Emmie at November 12, 2022 11:31 AM (Emce2)

36 Glenn Reynolds recently mentioned getting his fourth or fifth booster.

So despite all his big talk, he still trusts experts.
Posted by: tsj017 at November 12, 2022 11:14 AM (YcOm1)

Well then, he'll die soon enough.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2022 11:31 AM (4l5lv)

37

Dave, are you coming back? Call me!

*Bursts into tears*

Posted by: The Pig at November 12, 2022 11:31 AM (TcQeK)

38 Boston Dynamics' machine shows its flawless gymnastic routine.

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Needs more Uptown Funk.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2022 11:32 AM (FVME7)

39 I'm considered by many people in my industry to be an expert in my field. I even hear words like "national resource" on occasion.

But I know I don't know all that much. I happen to have memorized a few important facts that others don't have the time to learn.

Pay is good though.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 12, 2022 11:33 AM (5p7BC)

40 I'm an expert in expertology.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2022 11:34 AM (FVME7)

41 I was working as a reading tutor at a grade school. The principal told me that kids who use phonics are slow readers. She somehow had the notion that phonics-users laboriously sounded out all the words all the time. Uh, that would be silly. You only need to sound out a word once or twice before you just instantly recognize it.

Posted by: Emmie at November 12, 2022 11:34 AM (Emce2)

42 But I know I don't know all that much. I happen to have memorized a few important facts that others don't have the time to learn.

One could make a case that expertise is the ability to know which facts are important.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 12, 2022 11:34 AM (nfrXX)

43 There is a way of looking at things, a philosophy let's call it in engineering that says, there are no experts, show me your work, convince me. Now this varies from place to place. I've had engineering bosses that refused to hire anyone above a masters degree, never a PE holder and called anyone with credentials an idiot. Others who would look down on you if you didn't have a PhD. But, regardless, if you couldn't show your work and convince them that was it for you.

That's how everything should be. "Oh it's too complicated you wouldn't understand the nuances", FU pal thats exactly what someone blowing smoke up my rear would say. Everyone should be convincing me but no. It really has devolved to "trust us", don't worry about our near 100% f'up rate.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 12, 2022 11:35 AM (0fVbu)

44 Well then, he'll die soon enough.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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He is always fascinated with Transhumanism and living forever. With the repeated mutant rna injections, he is well on the way to achieving his first goal, but mebbe not the second.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 11:35 AM (CXr4y)

45 Id say Fauci did a better job with monkey pox, from a Democrat perspective, as he helped erase it from the headlines as soon as they started seeing the rising number of cases of children getting it from their gay parent-abusers.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 12, 2022 11:35 AM (dGzLr)

46 That's how everything should be. "Oh it's too complicated you wouldn't understand the nuances", FU pal thats exactly what someone blowing smoke up my rear would say. Everyone should be convincing me but no. It really has devolved to "trust us", don't worry about our near 100% f'up rate.
Posted by: banana Dream
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For most fields, if you cannot explain what you are doing to the average lay person, then you probably do not understand it that well yourself.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 11:36 AM (CXr4y)

47 It's like John Lennon said . . .

Expert texpert, choking smokers
Don't you think the joker laughs at you?
(Ho-ho-ho! Hee-hee-hee! Ha-ha-ha!)
See how they smile like pigs in a sty
See how they schnied
I'm crying

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2022 11:36 AM (FVME7)

48 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2022 11:36 AM (T4tVD)

49 If I need an expert I'll just say something and then Mrs D will tell me the way it is. At length.
About anything.
Then I go work in the garage.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2022 11:36 AM (anj39)

50 The field of medicine is so vast no individual can become an expert in even one single subspecially.

Only hospital administrators know what to do in every case.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2022 11:36 AM (bt2PN)

51 Well, I know in Portland the "experts" on homelessness are the people who get money from the government to solve homelessness.

Remarkably, homelessness never seems to get better for some reason.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 12, 2022 11:37 AM (KCOCK)

52 I'm worried that Tom has taken Sarah's $90/hour job. I think it is the patriarchy.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 12, 2022 11:37 AM (5p7BC)

53 Read The Talent Code. According to Coyle (heh), it's not just 10,000 hours of doing something. It's 10,000 hours of intense, conscious, self-critical practice. Anyone who's really tried knows that's hard to do for more than a few minutes at a time. Nobody can do it for eight hours a day.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 12, 2022 11:28 AM (nfrXX)

I've pursued a few areas of expertise over the course of my career, and it's amazing how quickly one stops being an "expert" after moving away from one area for another.

So I think it involves essentially a commitment to being open to new knowledge ALL THE TIME. As soon as you stop, you lost something important.

Lots of self-proclaimed experts believe they know it all, and are not open to new knowledge. Or they serve as gatekeepers, thinking it's their job to keep those pesky upstarts from joining them on their particular Mt. Olympus.

Yeah, no. That's not how any of this works.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 11:37 AM (NWBBy)

54 42 But I know I don't know all that much. I happen to have memorized a few important facts that others don't have the time to learn.

One could make a case that expertise is the ability to know which facts are important.
Posted by: Oddbob

And where to find solid facts and opinions if you don't know offhand. I am always amazed at people that refuse to do simple internet searches for data that used to take a well stocked research library available.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 11:38 AM (CXr4y)

55 Id say Fauci did a better job with monkey pox, from a Democrat perspective, as he helped erase it from the headlines as soon as they started seeing the rising number of cases of children getting it from their gay parent-abusers.

Plus Beto O'Rourke's "mysterious illness".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 12, 2022 11:38 AM (KCOCK)

56 It's an expert thing; you wouldn't understand.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2022 11:39 AM (FVME7)

57 Pharma and other corporate entities have a massive input into experts' opinions. A former colleague of mine was a true expert in a particular section of pharmacology. His work is everywhere, and he's still quoted in papers, for what it's worth. He fell from grace, as it were, for accepting academic assistance from one of the big companies (he did not get a dime, but the access to research was valuable). To make a long story short, the vaxxes are not pharma's first use of manipulated data.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 11:39 AM (Zzbjj)

58 But I know I don't know all that much. I happen to have memorized a few important facts that others don't have the time to learn.

For instance, the Art Thread is on-topic for 100 comments. A monkey shows up around 11am. Formatting errors start around noon.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2022 11:39 AM (bt2PN)

59 I saw this on the Internet, so it must be correct:

#BREAKING ⚡️🇺🇦UKRAINE "MILITARY AID" FROM USA - WAS INVESTED IN CRYPTO "FTX" BY UKRAINE!

Hilarious if true.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 12, 2022 11:40 AM (KCOCK)

60 Im an expert at fucking over my party’s base.

Posted by: Mitch McTurtle at November 12, 2022 11:40 AM (b99Ap)

61 For most fields, if you cannot explain what you are doing to the average lay person, then you probably do not understand it that well yourself.
Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 11:36 AM (CXr4y)

This. Was IT support for various industries throughout my career. A LOT of time spent figuring out business practices, and ways to make things easier. They all have different terms for the same damn things... but you have to get through their language, to understand what is often a very simple concept.

They use language as both a gatekeeper to keep people out of competing in their career field, but also in attempts to give themselves 'Expert Knowledge' status, so people won't question what they spout.

Business goes through these cycles constantly, with their 'buzz word' presentations...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2022 11:40 AM (oHd/0)

62 I've pursued a few areas of expertise over the course of my career, and it's amazing how quickly one stops being an "expert" after moving away from one area for another.

So I think it involves essentially a commitment to being open to new knowledge ALL THE TIME. As soon as you stop, you lost something important.

Lots of self-proclaimed experts believe they know it all, and are not open to new knowledge. Or they serve as gatekeepers, thinking it's their job to keep those pesky upstarts from joining them on their particular Mt. Olympus.

Yeah, no. That's not how any of this works.
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True that. Hoary old Thomas Kuhn explained the phenomenon decades ago. By the time you get to a settled paradigm, the gatekeepers, quibblers, and the political types have taken over the field to the detriment of knowledge.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 11:40 AM (CXr4y)

63 When Nurse sees that gymnastics robot, she's gonna laugh and then pull the .45.
Dance robot! Blam! Blam! Dance!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2022 11:41 AM (anj39)

64 From The Ethical Skeptic (https://theethicalskeptic.com/)

American philosopher Thomas Kuhn is credited with the proposition that science does not evolve gradually towards truth, but rather tends to anchor itself to a paradigm – a construct, notion, or hypothesis which bears the risk of remaining in play long past its shelf life. A theory thus can metastasize into a type of cult, zombie, or walking dead notion, if you will.

A zombie theory is often times one which is sponsored and enforced by a syndicate. It will tend to be flagged for proactive support by its philosophical sycophancy, associated social movement, or allied political party. Such activity of course lends no credence whatsoever to the theory’s actual scientific validity.

When protection of a syndicate-sponsored idea becomes more important than the integrity of science itself, this is a particular form of zombie theory which ethical skepticism calls an Omega Hypothesis.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 12, 2022 11:41 AM (xhaym)

65 To be an expert you have to do something. Execute. I would watch 5 guys stand around, smoke cigarettes, drink coffee and talk about all the different ways they could approach a two hour task. While they were talking, I'd go and complete the task, come back and tell them it was completed.

But the pay is the same, and you don't get any recognition, just the blame.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 12, 2022 11:41 AM (geVLo)

66 I used to be an expert at some telecom protocols.

Being an expert enabled me to do stuff with no wasted motions.

No wasted motions. No dead ends.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at November 12, 2022 11:41 AM (I9VC/)

67 I have a PhD (in engineering) so I know first-hand it doesn’t confer any kind of wisdom. It gives you specialized knowledge and nothing else. I worked with many PhDs who I wouldn’t trust to make the simplest decision for me. Some are idiot savants, others have huge egos because of that 3-letter tag at the end of their name. Lots of “normal folk” have more wisdom than your average PhD.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 12, 2022 11:41 AM (SlNuN)

68 Business goes through these cycles constantly, with their 'buzz word' presentations...
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It was going in biblical times. Ecclesiastes names and shames the practice as nothing new under the sun.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 11:42 AM (CXr4y)

69 #BREAKING ⚡️🇺🇦UKRAINE "MILITARY AID" FROM USA - WAS INVESTED IN CRYPTO "FTX" BY UKRAINE!

Hilarious if true.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 12, 2022 11:40 AM (KCOCK)

So we are increasing Inflation here in the US, by indirectly giving money to the crypto industry. /Facepalm

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2022 11:42 AM (oHd/0)

70 Speaking of "experts", I just read that on Tuesday night-Wednesday morning, wind-generated power in Alberta fell to 0.1% of nameplate capacity, and remained below 2% for 24 hours.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2022 11:42 AM (4l5lv)

71 "Maybe we need better experts."

NO. What we need is the desire to investigate and understand and do things ourselves. That way we can evaluate those _claiming_ to be experts and make decisions for ourselves.

Human nature (the sinful kind) is to push off responsibility and hard things to others. We prefer to be ruled than to rule ourselves.

Posted by: GWB at November 12, 2022 11:42 AM (7Of/6)

72 Problem is that it has become damn hard to do internet search now, whig. It is almost easier to go to a library.

I will always be looking for something I know is out there, but the search engines a purposely hiding it from me (not even talking politics here). I spend more time crafting a search string that gets past the ecommerce spam than anything.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 12, 2022 11:42 AM (5p7BC)

73 they didn't want to be "problem parents". This confuses "nice" with "kind".

or if you become a problem parent the teacher puts the screws to your kid

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 12, 2022 11:43 AM (iEXgF)

74 I remember seeing a video of a middle aged black woman who finally learned to read using phonetics. She said, "I always knew there was some secret they weren't telling me."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2022 11:43 AM (FVME7)

75 57 Pharma and other corporate entities have a massive input into experts' opinions. A former colleague of mine was a true expert in a particular section of pharmacology. His work is everywhere, and he's still quoted in papers, for what it's worth. He fell from grace, as it were, for accepting academic assistance from one of the big companies (he did not get a dime, but the access to research was valuable). To make a long story short, the vaxxes are not pharma's first use of manipulated data. Posted by: CN
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Yep. People and institutions behave in their own self interest. Amazing isn't it.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 11:44 AM (CXr4y)

76 True that. Hoary old Thomas Kuhn explained the phenomenon decades ago. By the time you get to a settled paradigm, the gatekeepers, quibblers, and the political types have taken over the field to the detriment of knowledge.

He also noted that nobody ever really changes their mind in science - the believers in the old, obsolete paradigm lose graduate students and eventually die off. It's not that they stop believing in the old, obsolete paradigm.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 12, 2022 11:44 AM (KCOCK)

77 Talking of experts, done work and waiting in line for drivers license renewal. Line is out the door and down to the building corner. Don't know but bet it's still a Covid issue

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 12, 2022 11:44 AM (xsgbU)

78 At one point in my career the company went through a phase of "process improvement". One aspect was to benchmark department processes against similar companies doing similar work who could do it faster/better/cheaper.

Education has sucked for decades. I've often wondered why no one has said "Hey, 80 or 100 years ago kids could read and write pretty well. Why not teach like they did back then?"

But no one ever does....

Posted by: George V at November 12, 2022 11:44 AM (ugbqN)

79 I spend more time crafting a search string that gets past the ecommerce spam than anything.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 12, 2022 11:42 AM (5p7BC)

It's very frustrating

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 12, 2022 11:44 AM (2xlV3)

80 PhD = "Piled Higher and Deeper"

Posted by: gourmand du jour, thanks vets at November 12, 2022 11:45 AM (jTmQV)

81 74 I remember seeing a video of a middle aged black woman who finally learned to read using phonetics. She said, "I always knew there was some secret they weren't telling me."
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My mother was a GED instructor in the county jail for years and had a M.Ed. in reading instruction. She used phonics and had a very successful rate at teaching them how to read and could diagnose reading problems like dyslexia, etc. and help give the students coping ability.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 11:46 AM (CXr4y)

82 Lots of “normal folk” have more wisdom than your average PhD.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 12, 2022 11:41 AM (SlNuN)

Agreed. And wisdom and knowledge can be accumulated without a tag at the end of your name. Some of this is motivation, some of this is having a personal stake in an outcome. It is not as rare as you'd hope for families and patients to have read more about side effects of a treatment than the treatment team has.

Also there are a lot of amateur historians and botanists who have a broader knowledge than the "professionals", often because they do not have the same financial and political ties.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 11:46 AM (Zzbjj)

83 Managed economies fail. Economies are far too complicated to manage, and the failures proliferate in ways that cannot be foreseen.
The Soviet Union and other managed economies tried to simplify the economies to make the job of centralizing control possible, but even in a truncated economy the only way to fulfill needs was to resort to black markets outside of the controlled economy.
All managed economies fail, and the level of failure is commensurate with the level of centralized control. This does not mean it will be fun for anyone.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 12, 2022 11:47 AM (xhaym)

84 For a heads up in supermarket news, I came in late. Check comment 423 in the previous thread, you might want to read it before going grocery shopping.

Posted by: LenNeal at November 12, 2022 11:47 AM (43xH1)

85 When I was in law school and learned the rules concerning expert witnesses, I thought it was ridiculous since, obviously, all experts on a topic would necessarily agree. A little practical experience divested me of that notion.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2022 11:48 AM (FVME7)

86 Nowadays, you're only considered an "expert" if you agree with all the other experts.

Old Russian proverb: "Idiots agree".

Posted by: Toad-O at November 12, 2022 11:49 AM (cct0t)

87 Back in the early 60's, our little Catholic grade school tried a new method of teaching kids to read. They joined the dipthongs, and some other stuff.
Anywho, my younger brother spent that one year with that crap, and still is not a good reader. He's the only one of 8 is isn't. Just as smart, just missed that critical year, IMO.

Posted by: MkY at November 12, 2022 11:49 AM (cPGH3)

88 Hey, 80 or 100 years ago kids could read and write pretty well.
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Every so often history or civics tests from the 20s and 30s will appear online, and I look at them, realizing I would fail the test. The Starbucks barista has no chance.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 12, 2022 11:49 AM (5p7BC)

89 82 - CN: The only 2 advantages I’ve enjoyed from my PhD are 1. A few promos at work because people thought it meant something, 2. I automatically distrust people like Fauci

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 12, 2022 11:49 AM (SlNuN)

90 In my view, the biggest problem with relying on experts is the assumption by people relying on them, that you and the expert share the same cultural and moral values.

They may be very knowledgable about the DNA sequence of a corona virus, but if they have no moral qualms about tinkering with it, they are more dangerous than beneficial.

It comes down to morality.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2022 11:49 AM (kXYt5)

91 72 Problem is that it has become damn hard to do internet search now, whig. It is almost easier to go to a library.

I will always be looking for something I know is out there, but the search engines a purposely hiding it from me (not even talking politics here). I spend more time crafting a search string that gets past the ecommerce spam than anything.
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Yes and no. I use the same strategy I did as a graduate student. Identify a key work and then work backwards from the cited articles. In news, find the few solid sources and then work backwards. A lot of the academic databases now have simplified their search engines for people that know nothing so it is harder to find stuff on those as well. Science a bit less so but social sciences are littered with garbage studies making it more difficult to identify what you need.

Legal databases are similarly being corrupted by Key Cite and Shepard's guides. Those are only meant to be a starting point to actually reading the cases--not what they actually said except in broadest terms.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 11:49 AM (CXr4y)

92 Teaching methods based on this idea can make it harder for children to learn how to read.

Now do the "New Math" bullshit I was saddled with in elementary school. Failed math all through Jr and senior high. But at trade school, who excelled at complex type fitting formulas, best in class when given real world examples?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at November 12, 2022 11:49 AM (xypP4)

93 For a heads up in supermarket news, I came in late. Check comment 423 in the previous thread, you might want to read it before going grocery shopping.
Posted by: LenNeal at November 12, 2022 11:47 AM (43xH1)

OK, I won't go grocery shopping, then. It's not like I have to eat or anything.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2022 11:50 AM (4l5lv)

94 How do you define THE "Subject matter expert" on anything. Well it is usually the guy who has to clean up all the messes and finally the "powers that be" figure out "well just let Yada Yada Yada handle it". And just like that, you become THE subject matter expert

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2022 11:50 AM (Irn0L)

95 >>> I will always be looking for something I know is out there, but the search engines a purposely hiding it from me (not even talking politics here). I spend more time crafting a search string that gets past the ecommerce spam than anything.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 12, 2022 11:42 AM (5p7BC)

This is exactly true and it's been bugging me. It's become very pronounced over the past half decade. Things I know exist are completely walled off. Sometimes just for S&G I will go through every page of a result set and it is all the same nonrelavant cultivated set of responses and not a single link to the actual information. There are organizations, like the soveign citizens, who I think are probably nut bars, but you will go through a thousand links and they'll all be the same. Nothing from anyone in the group although I know this has to exist. It's all starting to freak me out a bit.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 12, 2022 11:50 AM (0fVbu)

96 I will always be looking for something I know is out there, but the search engines a purposely hiding it from me (not even talking politics here). I spend more time crafting a search string that gets past the ecommerce spam than anything.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 12, 2022 11:42 AM (5p7BC)

Try Qwant.com

Frogfind is also swell for all it looks like Usenet

Posted by: Kindltot at November 12, 2022 11:50 AM (xhaym)

97 I'd copy and paste the comment but I'm on a phone, and I've never mastered it on a cellphone.

Posted by: LenNeal at November 12, 2022 11:51 AM (43xH1)

98 I read The Making of the Atomic Bomb by Rhodes awhile back. All the worlds major experts in chemistry, physics, and math. Friendships and enemies. The back-biting and arguments were the stuff of 8th grade girls at lunchtime. Even Oppenheimer wasn't immune, but between him, MG Groves, and a few others, they stayed mostly on task.
This book just reinforced my belief is the only real experts come off a rifle range.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2022 11:52 AM (anj39)

99 How do you define THE "Subject matter expert" on anything. Well it is usually the guy who has to clean up all the messes and finally the "powers that be" figure out "well just let Yada Yada Yada handle it". And just like that, you become THE subject matter expert

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2022 11:50 A

That's how we did it when I was in the Navy.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 12, 2022 11:52 AM (bVYXr)

100 Think about large offices, business, plants, factories, etc.

The experts are the ones who make six figures and travel to conferences all the time and who couldn't tell you how a single thing works.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 12, 2022 11:52 AM (75NDZ)

101 For a heads up in supermarket news, I came in late. Check comment 423 in the previous thread, you might want to read it before going grocery shopping.
Posted by: LenNeal

I bought a huge container of laundry detergent pods which, when opened, revealed itself to be only half full.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2022 11:52 AM (FVME7)

102 Back in the early 60's, our little Catholic grade school tried a new method of teaching kids to read. They joined the dipthongs, and some other stuff.
Anywho, my younger brother spent that one year with that crap, and still is not a good reader. He's the only one of 8 is isn't. Just as smart, just missed that critical year, IMO.
Posted by: MkY at November 12, 2022 11:49 AM (cPGH3)

"Dipthong" sounds like it ought to be sexy underwear from trannies.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2022 11:52 AM (4l5lv)

103 The voters of the State of Oregon, in their infinite wisdom, barely voted in an absurdly unconstitutional gun measure (which among other things requires the cops to interview and test every gun owner in the State of Oregon, and repeat this every five years - no funds are allocated to do this).

One of the provisions is that magazines over ten rounds are illegal - but existing magazines that you own are grandfathered in. Somebody already asked how you prove that you already owned the magazine - it's not like there are serial numbers on them.

A number of rural Oregon sheriffs have already announced that they aren't going to enforce this stupid law.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 12, 2022 11:52 AM (KCOCK)

104 My good friends Mitt Romney and Murkie are experts in the art of being a traitor.

Posted by: Mitch McTurtle at November 12, 2022 11:53 AM (b99Ap)

105 Change-makers and difference-makers, oh my.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 12, 2022 11:53 AM (63Dwl)

106 The Dunning-Kreuger Effect. Someone becomes an expert is one field and think he/she is an expert in EVERYTHING.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at November 12, 2022 11:54 AM (I9VC/)

107 96. Again, anything on the web is just as subject to destruction as a physical copy. There are things I have seen that I can no longer find. In some cases, I printed a copy, but not always.

Are they hiding things or have they been removed is a serious question. Our political class has become the taliban when it comes to destroying culture and inconvenient knowledge. It is NOT an accident.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 11:54 AM (Zzbjj)

108 will always be looking for something I know is out there, but the search engines a purposely hiding it from me (not even talking politics here)..
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This is exactly true and it's been bugging me. It's become very pronounced over the past half decade. Things I know exist are completely walled off...

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It's been discussed before, but that's one of the most heartbreaking things about the post-2005 internet to me.

Remember back when you could type a direct quote into google and it would yield search results?

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 12, 2022 11:54 AM (75NDZ)

109 How do you define THE "Subject matter expert" on anything. Well it is usually the guy who has to clean up all the messes and finally the "powers that be" figure out "well just let Yada Yada Yada handle it". And just like that, you become THE subject matter expert

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2022 11:50 A

That's how we did it when I was in the Navy.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 12, 2022 11:52 AM (bVYXr)

LOL, yeah I was kinda talking about me and what I do in the Navy. So yeah

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2022 11:54 AM (Irn0L)

110 Related:

"Google completely hid seven of 12 Senate Republican Party candidates’ campaign websites in page one organic search results.

Seven of 12 Senate Republican Party candidates’ campaign websites did not appear on page one using Google’s organic search. Meanwhile, eight of 12 Senate Democratic Party candidate campaign websites were highlighted in the top six items in organic search results."

https://tinyurl.com/29nektrc

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 12, 2022 11:55 AM (75NDZ)

111 Seniority is often a synonym for expertise as well. He’s been here 12 years he is an expert on how things work. Never mind he is a complete incompetent who just kisses the right ass and survives any layoffs.

Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 11:55 AM (b99Ap)

112 Your embarrassing moment for the day. The airport PA system just called a woman's name and let her know she left her keys, wallet, and "adult toy" in the TSA security area.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 12, 2022 11:56 AM (fyR6n)

113 79 I spend more time crafting a search string that gets past the ecommerce spam than anything.
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Google scholar has a bit less of that for common use. But, a lot of local libraries if you can find one that doesn't have bums watching porn there now have access to research databases.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 11:56 AM (CXr4y)

114 I developed some expertise in SLAPP motions. Served one on some hotshot tenant attorney while he was out. I was only going after half his case. He got word of it while out of the office and texted back a string of pejorative condescension (but no expletives). Soon afterwards he offered to settle for a walkaway. I was bummed but my boss was thrilled.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 12, 2022 11:56 AM (KAi1n)

115 I never considered myself an expert, but I did become very good at my profession. I see nothing wrong in that assessment.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 12, 2022 11:56 AM (BdMk6)

116
104 My good friends Mitt Romney and Murkie are experts in the art of being a traitor.
Posted by: Mitch McTurtle at November 12, 2022 11:53 AM (b99Ap)

They learned it from you, little China boy. I have a lot of praise for Marco Rubio for wanting McConnell out of power. It took him a while, but the destructive nature of whoever is pulling Biden's strings, is impacting many people.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 11:57 AM (Zzbjj)

117 110 Related:

"Google completely hid seven of 12 Senate Republican Party candidates’ campaign websites in page one organic search results.

Seven of 12 Senate Republican Party candidates’ campaign websites did not appear on page one using Google’s organic search. Meanwhile, eight of 12 Senate Democratic Party candidate campaign websites were highlighted in the top six items in organic search results."

https://tinyurl.com/29nektrc

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 12, 2022 11:55 AM (75NDZ)

A totally organic experience, no doubt.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 11:57 AM (ynpvh)

118 Couple years ago my sister, niece and me were looking at math problems of my grand niece, the three of us could make no sense of what they were trying to teach. And this was simple math

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 12, 2022 11:57 AM (xsgbU)

119 The Dunning-Kreuger Effect. Someone becomes an expert is one field and think he/she is an expert in EVERYTHING.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at November 12, 2022 11:54 AM (I9VC/)
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I'd like to become an expert on Diane Kruger.

Oh...

Dunnibg-Kreuger. Nevermind.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2022 11:57 AM (anj39)

120 >>>There has been a lot of incompetence throughout the CDC, FDA, and related agencies, but it was Fauci who came to think that he represented "science" and became a bobblehead. Who let him come to think that way?

He was paid to play a role in the revolving door of regulators and regulated, captured industry. And he was rewarded well, not just monetarily. He was deified in media, and he will be protected long after he is dead. Hate the game.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 11:57 AM (yHsuS)

121 115 I never considered myself an expert, but I did become very good at my profession. I see nothing wrong in that assessment.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 12, 2022 11:56 AM (BdMk6)

Indeed.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 11:57 AM (ynpvh)

122 110 Related:

"Google completely hid seven of 12 Senate Republican Party candidates’ campaign websites in page one organic search results.

Seven of 12 Senate Republican Party candidates’ campaign websites did not appear on page one using Google’s organic search. Meanwhile, eight of 12 Senate Democratic Party candidate campaign websites were highlighted in the top six items in organic search results."

https://tinyurl.com/29nektrc
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I have been assured by Conservative Media TM that is unpossible.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 11:58 AM (CXr4y)

123 Kindltot and ARC, fortunately I was assigned Kuhn's book 3 separate times in high school/college. Beyond the specific insight into the unscientific human dynamics of science, it was a valuable wider observation on all human institutions and fields of endeavor.

"Science advances one funeral at a time" - a funnier and pithier reduction of Kuhn.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2022 11:58 AM (OTzUX)

124 There has been a lot of incompetence throughout the CDC, FDA, and related agencies, but it was Fauci who came to think that he represented "science" and became a bobblehead. Who let him come to think that way?
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Didn't the UN recently make a Global Warming statement that they were also The Science as well?

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 12, 2022 11:58 AM (75NDZ)

125 I like to think of myself as an expert on gas station coffee, the one I'm drinking now isn't that great.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2022 11:58 AM (qH6FZ)

126 When looking at experts of any sort, always follow the money and the desire for money. Someone I've met is a big, big Trump basher who'd like us to believe this is all just well-reasoned and sensible. It is very connected to what he hopes are his future prospects in a 24 campaign and administration. There is little altruism in politics these days.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 11:59 AM (Zzbjj)

127 science does not evolve gradually towards truth, but rather tends to anchor itself to a paradigm – a construct, notion, or hypothesis which bears the risk of remaining in play long past its shelf life.

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But enough about evolution.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2022 11:59 AM (FVME7)

128 118 Couple years ago my sister, niece and me were looking at math problems of my grand niece, the three of us could make no sense of what they were trying to teach. And this was simple math

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 12, 2022 11:57 AM (xsgbU)

Kali has integrated math. I've had 5 semesters of college calculus (no repeats, straight As), and it took me a bit to figure what they were TRYING to do. Complete idiots. If they wanted to turn kids off to math, that was the way to do it. FYI, it was an intro section to factoring quadratics.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:00 PM (ynpvh)

129 Experts give us confidence that we're doing the right thing.

Come celebrate JFK Day with us! Dallas locations only, Nov 22nd.

Posted by: KFC at November 12, 2022 12:01 PM (CaJIi)

130 "Science advances one funeral at a time" - a funnier and pithier reduction of Kuhn.

Of course now, in the social sciences, it is the remaining conservatives that retire and die, while green-haired harridans who wrote great statements on how they plan to advance DEI replace them.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 12, 2022 12:01 PM (KCOCK)

131 127 science does not evolve gradually towards truth, but rather tends to anchor itself to a paradigm – a construct, notion, or hypothesis which bears the risk of remaining in play long past its shelf life.

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But enough about evolution.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2022 11:59 AM (FVME7)

Until proven wrong. Luminiferous ether is a good example. But scientists are people, with egos, self-interest...so that also plays into the game.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:01 PM (ynpvh)

132 A zombie theory is often times one which is sponsored and enforced by a syndicate. It will tend to be flagged for proactive support by its philosophical sycophancy, associated social movement, or allied political party. Such activity of course lends no credence whatsoever to the theory’s actual scientific validity.

When protection of a syndicate-sponsored idea becomes more important than the integrity of science itself, this is a particular form of zombie theory which ethical skepticism calls an Omega Hypothesis.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 12, 2022 11:41 AM (xhaym

Thanks for describing this phenomenon. Lot of intellectual zombies out there.

Posted by: Emmie at November 12, 2022 12:02 PM (Emce2)

133 79 I spend more time crafting a search string that gets past the ecommerce spam than anything.
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Good to see you decided not to wait until 24.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 12, 2022 12:02 PM (iEXgF)

134 "Follow the money" is the best thing Rush ever said. It's always relevant.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:02 PM (Zzbjj)

135 71 "Maybe we need better experts."

NO. What we need is the desire to investigate and understand and do things ourselves. That way we can evaluate those _claiming_ to be experts and make decisions for ourselves.

Human nature (the sinful kind) is to push off responsibility and hard things to others. We prefer to be ruled than to rule ourselves.
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True and why I believe that the PTB want a dysfunctional public school system. The priority is not on learning but on social work.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 12:02 PM (CXr4y)

136 My kid is in middle school and same thing with math. It’s not that I can’t figure out how to do it. I can’t figure out what the hell the question is.

Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 12:02 PM (b99Ap)

137 >>>The Dunning-Kreuger Effect. Someone becomes an expert is one field and think he/she is an expert in EVERYTHING.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse

>You are talking about everybody on FOX News, aren't you?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 12, 2022 12:03 PM (geVLo)

138 Malcolm Gladwell came up with the 10,000 hour rule to be an expert. It’s kinda stupid since 10k hours is 5 years of a full time job.iBut it seems to have gained prominence, ironically enough, because Gladwell fancies himself an expert on matters like these.
Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 11:24 AM (b99Ap)

Total bullshit about the 10,000 hour rule and I realized that when he used The Beatles as an example. He said they were a great band because they logged in 10,000 hours playing live on stage in small, sweaty taverns and nightclubs in Hamburg and Liverpool in front of demanding audiences of drunken seaport roughnecks.

No, they became famous and great because John and Paul wrote good songs and each member had charm and/or charisma

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:03 PM (mR6Gs)

139 Fine then. I work for a supermarket chain. Companies are shipping product in identical containers with less product in it with the same bar codes.
Legally it's evidently on the retailer to catch it.
So if you've been buying, oh, boxes of dog treats, there is a chance that container now holds less product than before, but, this is the new part, the exact same UPC, which... How are WE supposed to catch every single weight change, when they're just shipping stuff as replacement, no notice, with, I stress, the same UPC?!
Same product, same price, less content, with little or no way for us to catch it as it goes to shelf.
You're welcome.

Posted by: LenNeal at November 12, 2022 12:03 PM (43xH1)

140 like to think of myself as an expert on gas station coffee, the one I'm drinking now isn't that great.
Posted by: lowandslow

Hubbymayhem is a truck driver and he actually is a truck stop/fuel station coffee aficionado. The coffee at our local diner rates very low on his scale.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2022 12:03 PM (Wy1BU)

141 My kid is in middle school and same thing with math. It’s not that I can’t figure out how to do it. I can’t figure out what the hell the question is.

Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 12:02 PM

Math be racist and $hit.....

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 12, 2022 12:04 PM (bVYXr)

142 Halfway to, not into the door.
Thankfully it's a very nice day

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 12, 2022 12:04 PM (xsgbU)

143 FYI, it was an intro section to factoring quadratics.
Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:00 PM (ynpvh)

I learned everything I need to know about factoring quadratics in kindergarten.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2022 12:04 PM (qH6FZ)

144 Regional store has milk at $6 for two gallons. Three trips this week and I finally got there when they had fat free in stock, whole and 2% already sold out. Checkout gal said as soon as the truck comes in, it's gone. People must be freezing it.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 12, 2022 12:05 PM (lz5hY)

145 Diogenes, and "Deak" Parsons, who headed up the weaponization side at Los Alamos, was a key ally of Oppie and Groves in herding the sheep to get to the objective.

Mike Hammer of the Horde a while back pointed me to "Target: Hiroshima" (dumb title) by Albert Christman, about Parsons. Incredible figure in terms of contributions, including the proximity fuse, er, sorry, the "variable timing" fuse, before Los Alamos. And of course the guy who rode on Enola Gay and armed the bomb in-flight, which hadn't been planned. Amazing story all around.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2022 12:05 PM (OTzUX)

146 126 When looking at experts of any sort, always follow the money and the desire for money. Someone I've met is a big, big Trump basher who'd like us to believe this is all just well-reasoned and sensible. It is very connected to what he hopes are his future prospects in a 24 campaign and administration. There is little altruism in politics these days. Posted by: CN
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There has never been altruism in politics but the Framers tried to take self interest into account but the Party system became entrenched by those very same Framers due to pursuing their own self interests.

Spoils system is actually a bit cleaner as far as it goes than bureaucracies.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 12:05 PM (CXr4y)

147 Total bullshit about the 10,000 hour rule...

Screw Gladwell. Read Coyle.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 12, 2022 12:06 PM (nfrXX)

148 144 Regional store has milk at $6 for two gallons. Three trips this week and I finally got there when they had fat free in stock, whole and 2% already sold out. Checkout gal said as soon as the truck comes in, it's gone. People must be freezing it.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 12, 2022 12:05 PM (lz5hY)

Certain canned cat foods are hard to get. Disappear pretty fast one on the store shelves.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:06 PM (ynpvh)

149 Most men are experts in jerking off, masters at masturbation

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:06 PM (mR6Gs)

150 Hiya Skip !

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2022 12:07 PM (T4tVD)

151 Of course now, in the social sciences, it is the remaining conservatives that retire and die, while green-haired harridans who wrote great statements on how they plan to advance DEI replace them.

The signs of that have been evident for a long time - the Public Interest, a conservative sociology journal written for non-specialists folded in 2005 because the people behind the journal had gotten old, and they couldn't find anyone to take over the magazine.

Among other things, they were known for observing that if a black female did three things - graduated from high school, didn't get pregnant in high school, and didn't have a child until she was married, her chances of living in poverty was effectively zero.

This was evil and racist, of course, so the journal deserved to die.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 12, 2022 12:07 PM (KCOCK)

152 My grandson was born Thursday, one month premature. He has jaundice. He is under a blue light. I hope the doctors are experts.

Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2022 12:07 PM (9UmRs)

153 Checkout gal said as soon as the truck comes in, it's gone. People must be freezing it.

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Think about that. Normal people are doing this.

But Democrats are going to keep Congress.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 12, 2022 12:07 PM (75NDZ)

154 148 I don't know if Aldi's is a publicly traded company, but judging by the parking lots at our two stores it would be a pretty good investment.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 12, 2022 12:08 PM (lz5hY)

155 136 My kid is in middle school and same thing with math. It’s not that I can’t figure out how to do it. I can’t figure out what the hell the question is.
Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 12:02 PM (b99Ap

Nowadays all questions boil down to this: Are you a white Christian male? If yes, then you don't deserve to know the answers.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 12, 2022 12:08 PM (BdMk6)

156 Hey, 80 or 100 years ago kids could read and write pretty well.
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Every so often history or civics tests from the 20s and 30s will appear online, and I look at them, realizing I would fail the test. The Starbucks barista has no chance.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 12, 2022 11:49 AM (5p7BC)

Obviously the barista is just as capable of learning as anyone else. It's just that they've "learned" an abortion is a human right, and YOU must pay for it.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:08 PM (NWBBy)

157 138 Malcolm Gladwell came up with the 10,000 hour rule to be an expert. It’s kinda stupid since 10k hours is 5 years of a full time job.iBut it seems to have gained prominence, ironically enough, because Gladwell fancies himself an expert on matters like these.
Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 11:24 AM (b99Ap)

Total bullshit about the 10,000 hour rule and I realized that when he used The Beatles as an example. He said they were a great band because they logged in 10,000 hours playing live on stage in small, sweaty taverns and nightclubs in Hamburg and Liverpool in front of demanding audiences of drunken seaport roughnecks.

No, they became famous and great because John and Paul wrote good songs and each member had charm and/or charisma
Posted by: JoeF.
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Rehashed Labor Theory of Value that equates work with genius. Heinlein has his alter ego (jean dubois) take that down logically in Starship Troopers about a chef who can make an exquisite pie out of mundane ingredients but another with the same amount of effort can make an inedible mess that actually subtracts value from the original ingredients.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 12:08 PM (CXr4y)

158 sidebar item:

yet which the Democrats were able to blunt, and it wasn't really by fraud.

Posted by: PA and AZ, sniggering behind their palms at November 12, 2022 12:09 PM (dCxaZ)

159 OK watching the Navy ND game. I have a lot of friends at the game today, obviously none of them them had an extra ticket? LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2022 12:09 PM (Irn0L)

160 146. I said this as some of the current anti-Trump fervor comes from people who are poised to make a lot of mon on the alternative, but do not disclose their "conflicts of interest"

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:09 PM (Zzbjj)

161 Yeah, among other things with Gladwell and the Beatles - Other bands were also playing in those Hamburg clubs. What happened to them? Every struggling mini tour golfer has put in 10,000 hours. Why can't any of them beat Jordan Spieth?

He totally dismisses talent as a factor.

Posted by: Wally at November 12, 2022 12:09 PM (seks7)

162 >>> Kali has integrated math. I've had 5 semesters of college calculus (no repeats, straight As), and it took me a bit to figure what they were TRYING to do. Complete idiots. If they wanted to turn kids off to math, that was the way to do it. FYI, it was an intro section to factoring quadratics.
Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:00 PM (ynpvh)

Ace covered this once. The problem is they are trying to teach the abstract relational thought that one develops in fields like math in lieu of rote memorization. But our brains, most people's brains don't work that way. What has always worked best is to hammer the rules and get them well memorized. Then later your brain uses your memory to validate abstract models and you obtain deeper learning. But you can't put the cart before the horse and that won't work.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 12, 2022 12:09 PM (Nd9N3)

163 154 148 I don't know if Aldi's is a publicly traded company, but judging by the parking lots at our two stores it would be a pretty good investment.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

German owned and you might have to buy ETF's but I think they are public companies.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 12:09 PM (CXr4y)

164 Dance robot! Blam! Blam! Dance!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2022 11:41 AM (anj39)

OK, I laughed. A lot.

Posted by: Old Blue at November 12, 2022 12:10 PM (5tYr3)

165 Rehashed Labor Theory of Value that equates work with genius. Heinlein has his alter ego (jean dubois) take that down logically in Starship Troopers about a chef who can make an exquisite pie out of mundane ingredients but another with the same amount of effort can make an inedible mess that actually subtracts value from the original ingredients.
Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 12:08 PM (CXr4y)

This is seen in the real world everyday

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:10 PM (mR6Gs)

166 A lot of people simply don't want to learn, they don't like reading, and can't or won't even follow audiobooks. They take pride in this. I have no idea why.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:11 PM (Zzbjj)

167 153 Yep. And it's normal people feeling something real bad is about to get dropped. I was thinking myself a little nutty having a couple plastic totes filled with canned goods and paper products, and lately I'm feeling a little proud of myself.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 12, 2022 12:11 PM (lz5hY)

168 So if you've been buying, oh, boxes of dog treats, there is a chance that container now holds less product than before, but, this is the new part, the exact same UPC, which... How are WE supposed to catch every single weight change, when they're just shipping stuff as replacement, no notice, with, I stress, the same UPC?!
Same product, same price, less content, with little or no way for us to catch it as it goes to shelf.
You're welcome.
Posted by: LenNeal at November 12, 2022 12:03 PM (43xH1)

Well, thank you. Are the packages marked with the same net weight as before? I have never used the UPC for anything. When I shop for comparable products, I look for net weight/volume and price. Usually, the lowest dollar per unit wins, except in those cases where the quality of the cheaper product is notably sub-par.

Long-term, I expect, shipping under-filled containers would be a money loser. Might be suppliers are only under-filling until their container stock is used up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2022 12:11 PM (4l5lv)

169 Thought Aldi's and Trader Joe's were owned by German brothers - privately held - but ...... I'm not an expert!

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2022 12:12 PM (OTzUX)

170 Every once in a while you might come across a like 4th grade test and it's amazing 100 years ago a kid could smoke a new kid in a test result

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 12, 2022 12:12 PM (xsgbU)

171 True and why I believe that the PTB want a dysfunctional public school system. The priority is not on learning but on social work.
Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 12:02 PM (CXr4y)

General (Keynesian) Theory in economics makes less sense than epicycles does for planetary motion. At best it describes limited action, and suggests actions to take for best results, but it gives no theory that can be built upon for actual understanding.
With epicycles it is impossible to determine theory of motion or gravity, it is a "just so" story that you have to accept and build models for each individual orbit that only confirm that the model is correct, it serves no other purpose.
With mainstream economics all you do is memorize and build models that are justified by how well the models are self justified. It is considered a dreadful science because it is mostly memorization with no real understanding.
Math is supposed to be the same thing, understand nothing, memorize and apply models, be unable to build on any of it because who cares.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 12, 2022 12:12 PM (xhaym)

172 Got punished in grade school for the way I dealt with math. Decades later talked to a college math professor who told me "you were factoring in grade school, on your own - that's college math!"

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at November 12, 2022 12:12 PM (xypP4)

173 He totally dismisses talent as a factor.

Posted by: Wally

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Luck > talent

The right gay man being in one of those nightclubs and thinking Paul was cute and telling his record-executive father was more valuable than 10, 20, or 30,000 hours of practicing guitar.

I'm not saying that's what happened, just that luck plays a HUGE role in those things, and it's completely out of your control.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 12, 2022 12:12 PM (75NDZ)

174 Well, I guess there's a use for everything, even Philadelphia.

The streets of Philadelphia are so bad that Mexico is using footage of them in ads to scare young people away from drugs

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2022 12:12 PM (FVME7)

175 I don't know if Aldi's is a publicly traded company, but judging by the parking lots at our two stores it would be a pretty good investment.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

German owned and you might have to buy ETF's but I think they are public companies.
Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 12:09 PM (CXr4y)

For those who are stunned to learn Trader Joe's isn't just an Aldi subsidiary but that there are two Aldis, let's take a step back. CNBC explains Aldi was originally founded as a suburban German corner store which brothers Karl and Theo Albrecht inherited after World War II. In the economic turmoil of post-war Germany, the brothers worked to cut down waste by only selling staples at low prices and were quickly able to expand their store into a chain. By 1955 they had 100 stores, but in the 1960s, the brothers split the business into two (Aldi Nord and Aldi Süd) after disagreeing about selling cigarettes.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2022 12:13 PM (Irn0L)

176
I know things and wield great dominion
I offer guidance to plebes, fools, and minions
I'll tell you which mouthwash to use
And which brand of toothpaste to choose
So trust in my expert opinion!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2022 12:13 PM (kXYt5)

177 My grandson was born Thursday, one month premature. He has jaundice. He is under a blue light. I hope the doctors are experts.

Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2022 12:07 PM (9UmRs)

New baby, new baby, new baby! Congratulations! Best of health for Mom and baby. Side note. You are old.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 12:13 PM (yHsuS)

178 The Dunning-Kreuger Effect. Someone becomes an expert is one field and think he/she is an expert in EVERYTHING.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at November 12, 2022 11:54 AM (I9VC/)
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I'd like to become an expert on Diane Kruger.

Oh...

Dunnibg-Kreuger. Nevermind.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2022 11:57 AM (anj39)

Yep, every time I see "Dunning Krueger," I think of Diane. Who is certainly an expert at very specific things.

Very. Specific.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:14 PM (NWBBy)

179 The streets of Philadelphia are so bad that Mexico is using footage of them in ads to scare young people away from drugs
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Hah!
Link?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 12, 2022 12:14 PM (2xlV3)

180 This is seen in the real world everyday
Posted by: JoeF.
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Yes it is. That is why I have done a lot of things myself instead of relying on others. It has wasted a lot of my time in a way but I avoid wasting both time and money dealing with people that will not do what I tell them to do when I am paying for the job.

My problem is that physically I can't do it anymore but I have identified a few people that can follow direction which is damn hard in the construction trade.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 12:14 PM (CXr4y)

181 Among other things, they were known for observing that if a black female did three things - graduated from high school, didn't get pregnant in high school, and didn't have a child until she was married, her chances of living in poverty was effectively zero.

This was evil and racist, of course, so the journal deserved to die.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 12, 2022 12:07 PM (KCOCK

Also works well for white females.

Posted by: Emmie at November 12, 2022 12:14 PM (Emce2)

182 [ii]So trust in my expert opinion!

******

Ponder the concept of an expert opinion. It is, at the end of the day, a guess. An expert should be able to bridge the gap between knowledge/facts on one hand and the uncertainty of the real world on the other, in a way that people without the particular subject matter knowledge can use in day-to-day life.

Otherwise, what use are they?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2022 12:14 PM (kXYt5)

183 Not saying The Beatles didn't gain ANYTHING from all the work they did in the 5 years before they magically appeared on The Ed Sullivan Show only weeks after JFK's assassination, but the amount of time spent playing didn't make any of them virtuosos on their instruments.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:14 PM (mR6Gs)

184 Another disturbing trend in education is the "they're just children" excuse. It is as though they will turn into accountable and motivated people upon their 18th birthday, but until that date they cannot be held responsible for as much as their own homework.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:15 PM (Zzbjj)

185 My grandson was born Thursday, one month premature. He has jaundice. He is under a blue light. I hope the doctors are experts.

Posted by: clutch
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Congratulations, grandpaw. He'll be fine. A month is pretty easy to handle these days. Praying for him regardless.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi's Gay Anal Hammer Handle Fetish Can Save Democracy at November 12, 2022 12:15 PM (75NDZ)

186 I'll tell you which mouthwash to use
And which brand of toothpaste to choose
So trust in my expert opinion!
Posted by: Muldoon

It's the Fifth Dentist!!!!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 12, 2022 12:15 PM (2xlV3)

187 175 Ex SiL and Hubby at times when he was stationed in Germany would do most of their shopping there as opposed to the commissary (30 mile drive).

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 12, 2022 12:15 PM (lz5hY)

188 Some sort of good news (if one doesn't look back too far in the past) on the economic front. Auguson's powdered eggs are now $94 a can (2 pounds, 1 ounce). That's down from around $115 a couple of months ago.

Of course, this is relative. I bought these same cans two to three years ago for around $33 a can.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at November 12, 2022 12:16 PM (xxG/v)

189 Question: "The Free Market is Dead: What Will Replace It?"
Answer: Neo-Vikings

Posted by: Next2Nothing at November 12, 2022 12:16 PM (tA1/w)

190 Otherwise, what use are they?
Posted by: Muldoon
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Scapegoat when things go wrong.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 12:17 PM (CXr4y)

191 79 I spend more time crafting a search string that gets past the ecommerce spam than anything.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

Dave if you're still here...

First ... Thank you for all your info about the polls before the election. And thanks for the after analysis.

Second ..... Your column this morning. I just got a chance to read it. Chores, errands, its snowing, the dog ate my homework, stop judging me!
Anyway, you said exactly what I have been thinking since Tues. McFail tanked it deliberately to discredit Trump. It didn't work and now they're scrambling to keep their snouts in the trough. Should be entertainment at its finest.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2022 12:17 PM (Wy1BU)

192 clutch, congrats and prayers for the baby!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 12, 2022 12:18 PM (2xlV3)

193 Also works well for white females.

Saying that personal behavior matters is evil, sexist, and racist.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 12, 2022 12:18 PM (KCOCK)

194 "The Free Market is Dead: What Will Replace It?"

Socialism, lines, and shortages Comrade

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2022 12:18 PM (Irn0L)

195 Also works well for white females.
Posted by: Emmie
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Anyone really. Left out substance abuse though.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 12:18 PM (CXr4y)

196 Quick look at the news- it seems in several races, the Dem candidate keeps 'inching' towards a win as the ballot counting continues

never inches the other way..

Posted by: DB at November 12, 2022 12:18 PM (geLO8)

197 The right gay man being in one of those nightclubs and thinking Paul was cute and telling his record-executive father was more valuable than 10, 20, or 30,000 hours of practicing guitar.

Actually that gay man did exist and he was a record store owner named Brian Epstein who, alerted by kids coming in asking for the band's debut single, decided to check them out at the club where they were playing.

And it was John, not Paul, he fancied

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:18 PM (mR6Gs)

198 If the willowed/repeated comment way up above is about the Khakovskaya hydro-electric dam, that facility was (unsuccessfully) attacked by the Ukes, over and over, since the spring. But they have no "dam-buster" weapons adequate to the task. But now that the russkis have made their withdrawal to the left bank, the other Uke activities up-river which appeared aimed at removing other flood-control infrastructure - to disrupt Russian operations, which spanned the river downstream - may well stop.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2022 12:18 PM (OTzUX)

199 Got punished in grade school for the way I dealt with math. Decades later talked to a college math professor who told me "you were factoring in grade school, on your own - that's college math!"

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at November 12, 2022 12:12 PM (xypP4)

You got punished because you embarrassed the authority. When I was in 6th grade, I used to do the puzzles and stuff that the teacher had in the classroom, while listening to the instruction. Other kids whined: Why couldn't they do the same; why does he get to do it? Her response: Because he can.

My youngest astounds with math. He's like a circus sideshow freak.

Good teachers know students are different, they think and learn different, and the teachers are prepared with tools to help each grow in their own way. You had an unimaginative petty dictator.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 12:18 PM (yHsuS)

200 There are a lot of squares to circle here's a couple.

The GOP improved with every demographic group except one and lost.

The GOP overall got 6 million more votes and lost.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2022 12:19 PM (k5LH7)

201 My cousin showed me a package of saltines he'd bought. Same box and packaged the same way. Only the stack of crackers was sealed two inches farther down than normal. The excess paper was left on.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 12, 2022 12:19 PM (uz3Px)

202 New baby, new baby, new baby! Congratulations! Best of health for Mom and baby. Side note. You are old.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 12:13 PM (yHsuS)

I'm not old, we married young.

Any experts here know the effectiveness of the blue light treatment for jaundice?

Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2022 12:19 PM (9UmRs)

203 Experts pick the experts. It's experts all the way down.

Posted by: fd at November 12, 2022 12:19 PM (sn5EN)

204 Not saying The Beatles didn't gain ANYTHING from all the work they did in the 5 years before they magically appeared on The Ed Sullivan Show only weeks after JFK's assassination, but the amount of time spent playing didn't make any of them virtuosos on their instruments.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:14 PM (mR6Gs)

I would counter that the thousands of hour they spent working in the clubs made them into journeyman working musicians. Not necessarily virtuosos, but musicians who could pick up and instrument and play a tune.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2022 12:19 PM (4l5lv)

205 I wonder what would be the best handgun and or rifle round to use against those robots?

Must plan ahead...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 12, 2022 12:20 PM (R/m4+)

206 McFail tanked it deliberately to discredit Trump. It didn't work and now they're scrambling to keep their snouts in the trough. Should be entertainment at its finest.
Posted by: Madamemayhem
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A Senate GOP blanket party for McConnell and his cronies is well overdue.

McCarthy should be pried away from Luntz and the leadership with a crowbar and ethics charges.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 12:20 PM (CXr4y)

207 152 My grandson was born Thursday, one month premature. He has jaundice. He is under a blue light. I hope the doctors are experts.
Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2022 12:07 PM (9UmRs

I'm no expert, but this is normal even for full-term babies. The baby's little liver has to catch up with life outside the womb and sunshine (or blue light) helps clear out the yellow.

Posted by: Emmie at November 12, 2022 12:20 PM (Emce2)

208 Dark times ahead and there's absolutely nothing we can do about it. I'm convinced now that elections don't hack it anymore. The alternatives are troubling.

Just glad I live in OK. We're still relatively free for now.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 12, 2022 12:20 PM (BdMk6)

209 Quick look at the news- it seems in several races, the Dem candidate keeps 'inching' towards a win as the ballot counting continues

never inches the other way..

Posted by: DB at November 12, 2022 12:18 PM (geLO

The AZ "counting" is absolutely disgusting. People should hang.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 12:20 PM (yHsuS)

210 Question: "The Free Market is Dead: What Will Replace It?"
Answer: Neo-Vikings
Posted by: Next2Nothing at November 12, 2022 12:16 PM (tA1/w)

The black market

Posted by: Kindltot at November 12, 2022 12:20 PM (xhaym)

211 205 I wonder what would be the best handgun and or rifle round to use against those robots?

Must plan ahead...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
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Tungsten slugs in a 12 gauge. You will have to use a sabot design though to keep from killing the barrel.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 12:21 PM (CXr4y)

212 Yeah, among other things with Gladwell and the Beatles - Other bands were also playing in those Hamburg clubs. What happened to them? Every struggling mini tour golfer has put in 10,000 hours. Why can't any of them beat Jordan Spieth?

He totally dismisses talent as a factor.
Posted by: Wally at November 12, 2022 12:09 PM (seks7)

One of the interesting things to watch is how talent isn't necessarily going to remain the deciding factor in sports. It's long not been the deciding factor in entertainment. Singers and actors become famous, sometimes because of what they're willing to compromise, rather than talent.

Now we're seeing basketball and tennis players who are being blackballed in their sports, for not doing the jab.

One wonders how Aaron Rodgers goes from being the best QB in the NFL to being benched, and how much it has to do with his own team and/or the league sabotaging him for his stance on "vaccines."

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:21 PM (NWBBy)

213 205 I wonder what would be the best handgun and or rifle round to use against those robots?

Must plan ahead...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 12, 2022 12:20 PM (R/m4+)

Squirt gun.

Posted by: Emmie at November 12, 2022 12:21 PM (Emce2)

214 175

That is the same story as Adidas and Puma. Brothers starting businesses then fighting and splitting the businesses in two competitors is a thing in Germany, apparently.

Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 12:21 PM (b99Ap)

215 My grandson was born Thursday, one month premature. He has jaundice. He is under a blue light. I hope the doctors are experts.

Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2022 12:07 PM (9UmRs)

Congratulations! New baby smell is better than new car smell!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2022 12:21 PM (Wy1BU)

216 I'll pull the names of 3 random morons out of the hat at TxMoMe, could do better than current asshoe.

Posted by: Eromero at November 12, 2022 12:21 PM (s7zHM)

217 Quick look at the news- it seems in several races, the Dem candidate keeps 'inching' towards a win as the ballot counting continues

never inches the other way..
Posted by: DB at November 12, 2022 12:18 PM (geLO

It's getting too obvious, even the LIVs are noticing.

Anyway, it's Saturday, many aren't paying attention, so just like the Saturday after 2020, look for the AP to call one of the major races for the Democrats, and that will be considered the final word.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:21 PM (mR6Gs)

218 I'm no expert, but this is normal even for full-term babies. The baby's little liver has to catch up with life outside the womb and sunshine (or blue light) helps clear out the yellow.

Posted by: Emmie at November 12, 2022 12:20 PM (Emce2)

This. IIRC, our youngest needed some light therapy, and it cleared within a day or so.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 12:21 PM (yHsuS)

219 The AZ "counting" is absolutely disgusting. People should hang.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 12:20 PM (yHsuS)

I think they have a noose at the Obama library

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2022 12:21 PM (Irn0L)

220 162 ...Ace covered this once. The problem is they are trying to teach the abstract relational thought that one develops in fields like math in lieu of rote memorization.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 12, 2022 12:09 PM (Nd9N3)

You can show some basic reasons why certain math works without getting so f'n abstract.
Quadratic equation can be derived by keeping in mind
1) the basics of algebra (what you do to one side you do to the other exactly)
2) completing the square
3) realizing that there are two possible roots.

All this followed up by a sufficient # of problems which reinforces the concept.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:22 PM (ynpvh)

221 Hah!
Link?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion

https://bit.ly/3Uvmo4w

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2022 12:22 PM (FVME7)

222 The war on phonics is so tragic. There is something like 44 phonemes in the English language and the way to teach kids to read by sounding out the words is relatively straightforward.

Yet some idiots thought a better way to teach the kids how to read is by having them memorize the words. Given that there are more than a million words in the English language, this is just unrealistic. Yet the idiots somehow managed to prevail, mostly because it made less work for the teachers.

My mother, who was a teacher, was always appalled by this.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at November 12, 2022 12:22 PM (xxG/v)

223 "The Free Market is Dead: What Will Replace It?"

Socialism, lines, and shortages Comrade

So, ultimately, nothing.

Posted by: Methos at November 12, 2022 12:22 PM (kOpft)

224 I haven't listened to the education links yet, but I have to question one thing. It says the anti-phonics movement dates back 60 years.

Wrong. It goes back at least a few before that. I am 69 years old. When I was in 1st Grade, my teacher was pissed off that my grandmother had already taught me to read, by "sounding it out", that is, phonics.

She used Winnie the Pooh. Guess my favorite character.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 12, 2022 12:23 PM (TgBWG)

225 wonder what would be the best handgun and or rifle round to use against those robots?

Must plan ahead...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 12, 2022 12:20 PM (R/m4+)

Squirt gun.

Posted by: Emmie at November 12, 2022 12:21 PM (Emce2)

Flammenwerfer or molotov, followed by 20 ton hydraulic press. Watch the documentary, Terminator.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 12:23 PM (yHsuS)

226 You could lasso those robot and hog tie 'em.

Posted by: fd at November 12, 2022 12:23 PM (sn5EN)

227 205 Depleted uranium sabot. Wait, that's not a bad idea in 9mm or 45acp.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 12, 2022 12:23 PM (lz5hY)

228 I wonder what would be the best handgun and or rifle round to use against those robots?

Must plan ahead...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 12, 2022 12:20 PM (R/m4+)

Squirt gun.
Posted by: Emmie at November 12, 2022 12:21 PM (Emce2)
***

Think gladiators...a trident and a net.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2022 12:23 PM (anj39)

229
The GOP overall got 6 million more votes and lost.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2022 12:19 PM (k5LH7)

———-

Where is this figure from?

Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 12:23 PM (b99Ap)

230 Hairyback guy good Question

FMJ I think to start, high velocity

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 12, 2022 12:23 PM (xsgbU)

231 A Senate GOP blanket party for McConnell and his cronies is well overdue.

McCarthy should be pried away from Luntz and the leadership with a crowbar and ethics charges.
Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 12:20 PM (CXr4y)

Yes. More pols need to stand up against these two. Neither of them showed the slightest bit of surprise when Trump "lost" 2020. They didn't see the benefit of pretending to surprise, and by this showed their cards. It's no accident that McConnell stopped funding for some of the candidates and has not once opened his mouth about the prolonged and stealthy vote count. They are on the side of their portfolios.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:24 PM (Zzbjj)

232 The AZ "counting" is absolutely disgusting. People should hang.

Which is why it's being protected by brave police snipers.

Posted by: Methos at November 12, 2022 12:24 PM (kOpft)

233 Yeah, among other things with Gladwell and the Beatles - Other bands were also playing in those Hamburg clubs. What happened to them? Every struggling mini tour golfer has put in 10,000 hours. Why can't any of them beat Jordan Spieth?

Actually , a few bands that were playing in Hamburg alongside The Beatles, DID get record deals in the wake of The Beatles' success and made some money.
I think Gerry and The pacemakers were one.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:24 PM (mR6Gs)

234 The GOP overall got 6 million more votes and lost.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2022 12:19 PM

And there isn't a single talking head anywhere saying anything about the "popular vote" after Tuesday.

Gee, I wonder why?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 12, 2022 12:24 PM (bVYXr)

235 My cousin showed me a package of saltines he'd bought. Same box and packaged the same way. Only the stack of crackers was sealed two inches farther down than normal. The excess paper was left on.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 12, 2022 12:19 PM (uz3Px)

Was the weight of the stack of crackers in accordance with the label on the box? If the box label says "16 ounces", and the box contains only 12, that is fraud. But the same box, if labeled as 12 ounces, no fraud. Kinda wasteful of packaging material, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2022 12:25 PM (4l5lv)

236 Question: "The Free Market is Dead: What Will Replace It?"
Answer: Neo-Vikings
Posted by: Next2Nothing at November 12, 2022 12:16 PM (tA1/w)

Old and busted: The law of supply and demand.

New hotness: Rape, pillage, and rape.

Yes, I know I said rape twice.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:25 PM (NWBBy)

237 74 I remember seeing a video of a middle aged black woman who finally learned to read using phonetics. She said, "I always knew there was some secret they weren't telling me."
=========
That statement really blew my mind, as I learned how to read using phonetics in Kindergarten and early grade school with the Letter People and PBS. That was back in the Seventies, with the Kentucky Public Schools which weren't really leaders in education. If the kids aren't learning phonetics today, then they are being taught by lazy fools.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 12, 2022 12:25 PM (W+kMI)

238 222 The war on phonics is so tragic. There is something like 44 phonemes in the English language and the way to teach kids to read by sounding out the words is relatively straightforward.

Yet some idiots thought a better way to teach the kids how to read is by having them memorize the words. Given that there are more than a million words in the English language, this is just unrealistic. Yet the idiots somehow managed to prevail, mostly because it made less work for the teachers.

My mother, who was a teacher, was always appalled by this.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at November 12, 2022 12:22 PM (xxG/v)

Yes. Skip to whole reading because that's what adults do, without the underpinnings to figure out how to read NEW words. Pushed by folks who became expert in stupidity, having been stupid all their lives ("born stupid and losing ground ever since"--Amos n' Andy)

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:26 PM (ynpvh)

239 You're more likely to find good phonics instruction in Youtube kiddie videos than in many schools

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:26 PM (Zzbjj)

240 I would counter that the thousands of hour they spent working in the clubs made them into journeyman working musicians. Not necessarily virtuosos, but musicians who could pick up and instrument and play a tune.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2022 12:19 PM (4l5lv)

And in a variety of styles

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:26 PM (mR6Gs)

241 I wonder what would be the best handgun and or rifle round to use against those robots?
Must plan ahead...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 12, 2022 12:20 PM (R/m4+)

Squirt gun.
Posted by: Emmie at November 12, 2022 12:21 PM (Emce2)

Filled with muriatic acid.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2022 12:26 PM (qH6FZ)

242 AOP, yes the containers are marked with the new, lower weight; but that's the point here: the containers LOOK the same. They ring up the same price, and when a customer is used to buying a certain product at a certain price, they're not going to comparison shop and read all the tiny print on that familiar product.
I actually CAN easily tell 14oz from 16oz from years of holding products in my hand, which is how I caught it. But who's gonna do that, when the product, I stress, looks the same?!
Then when someone figures it out we get yet another stressed out customer flipping out about inflation on US.
So a heads up to anyone who's not a super shopping analytical mathematician.
You may be paying more for less... And not realizing it.

Posted by: LenNeal at November 12, 2022 12:26 PM (43xH1)

243 I'm not old, we married young.

Any experts here know the effectiveness of the blue light treatment for jaundice?

Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2022 12:19 PM (9UmRs)

Just funnin'. There's a couple anecdotes in the thread. If it is nothing, should clear up pretty quickly (on order of days or less).

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 12:26 PM (yHsuS)

244 Cold weather has arrived. Knee rubdown with Capsaicin. Remembered to thoroughly wash hands before a standing head call.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 12, 2022 12:27 PM (lz5hY)

245 241. Can you recommend a squirt gun that could handle that substance?

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:27 PM (Zzbjj)

246 223 "The Free Market is Dead: What Will Replace It?"

Socialism, lines, and shortages Comrade

So, ultimately, nothing.
Posted by: Methos at November 12, 2022 12:22 PM (kOpft)

Socialism is less than nothing; it is wholly subtractive to the bulk of humanity, only enriching those who run the scam.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:27 PM (ynpvh)

247 Was the weight of the stack of crackers in accordance with the label on the box? If the box label says "16 ounces", and the box contains only 12, that is fraud. But the same box, if labeled as 12 ounces, no fraud. Kinda wasteful of packaging material, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2022 12:25 PM

A pound is no longer a pound for a whole lot of food items. I have noticed the shrinkage creep for some years now. They seem to generally shrink whatever item it is by 2 ounces at a time but keep the price the same.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 12, 2022 12:27 PM (bVYXr)

248 My cousin showed me a package of saltines he'd bought. Same box and packaged the same way. Only the stack of crackers was sealed two inches farther down than normal. The excess paper was left on.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 12, 2022 12:19 PM (uz3Px)

I noticed this with a package of cookies

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:27 PM (mR6Gs)

249 Filled with muriatic acid.
Posted by: lowandslow

I was gonna say maple syrup

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 12, 2022 12:27 PM (2xlV3)

250 "In January 2007, a bronze statue by Auguste Rodin (1840-1917), the Thinker, disappeared from the sculpture garden of the Singer Museum in Laren. Shortly after the theft, the bronze was retrieved, albeit heavily damaged."

Dobie Gillis could not be reached for comment.

Posted by: go get your fuckin shine box at November 12, 2022 12:27 PM (WusEB)

251 Thomas Bender, haven't listened to/read (it's in written form somewhere?) Dave's analysis, but recall the 2000 and 2016 and 2020 presidentials. Where the electoral college system makes it easy to understand how overall majorities do not = victory.

But pernicious redistricting and simply existing patterns of political behavior (red - redder, blue - bluer) can easily result in congressional majorities in total votes not = victory overall. I don't recall this actually ever being a thing in contemporary elections, maybe it happened before. But the combo of gerrymandering and regionalism could easily produce such results on the congressional level (House, not Senate so much).

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2022 12:27 PM (OTzUX)

252 "sound it out" was what I was told.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 12, 2022 12:28 PM (xhaym)

253 >>> What has always worked best is to hammer the rules and get them well memorized. Then later your brain uses your memory to validate abstract models and you obtain deeper learning. But you can't put the cart before the horse and that won't work.

Posted by: banana Dream
------------------------

When your brain matures to ask the question you have the tools to formulate the answer. It may be months or years but when you ask the question the answer will 'come to you'.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 12, 2022 12:28 PM (iEXgF)

254 229
The GOP overall got 6 million more votes and lost.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2022 12:19 PM (k5LH7)
———-
Where is this figure from?
Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 12:23 PM (b99Ap)

https://is.gd/Ol8Y4j
Dem vote: 46,841,966
Rep vote: 51,747,341

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:28 PM (ynpvh)

255 Yes, I know I said rape twice.
Posted by: BurtTC at

I don't judge. You do you.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2022 12:28 PM (Wy1BU)

256 Shrinkflation isn’t new. It’s been happening for a long time and people know all about it, hence the made up word to describe it.

Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 12:29 PM (b99Ap)

257 245 241. Can you recommend a squirt gun that could handle that substance?
Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:27 PM (Zzbjj)

Ask Walter White. I believe he's an expert on that topic.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:29 PM (NWBBy)

258 229
The GOP overall got 6 million more votes and lost.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2022 12:19 PM (k5LH7)

———-

Where is this figure from?
Posted by: No more bullshit please
---------------------------------
Real clear politics under House Races. Right at GOP +5 vote for house which actually is above what some polls predicted but the votes are not distributed well enough to win in particular races.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 12:29 PM (CXr4y)

259 "sound it out" was what I was told.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 12, 2022 12:28 PM (xhaym)

Yup me also, right after they taught me to swim by just throwing me in the water. It worked

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2022 12:29 PM (Irn0L)

260 @251

>> it easy to understand how overall majorities do not = victory.

I understand that but I'm simply musing that as republican become more popular their victories become more selective.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2022 12:29 PM (k5LH7)

261 236 Question: "The Free Market is Dead: What Will Replace It?"
Answer: Neo-Vikings
Posted by: Next2Nothing at November 12, 2022 12:16 PM (tA1/w)

Old and busted: The law of supply and demand.

New hotness: Rape, pillage, and rape.

Yes, I know I said rape twice.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:25 PM (NWBBy)

physical and econonic

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:30 PM (ynpvh)

262 229
The GOP overall got 6 million more votes and lost.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2022 12:19 PM (k5LH7)

———-

Where is this figure from?
https://tinyurl.com/mv3bxpzy
https://tinyurl.com/mwccfczp

Posted by: exdem13 at November 12, 2022 12:30 PM (W+kMI)

263 Knee rubdown with Capsaicin. Remembered to thoroughly wash hands before a standing head call.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

Or reaching over to give the lovely wife a very friendly "how you doing?" touch after bedtime.

I still get the sink eye occasionally for that one.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 12, 2022 12:30 PM (LsEU/)

264
Yes. More pols need to stand up against these two. Neither of them showed the slightest bit of surprise when Trump "lost" 2020. They didn't see the benefit of pretending to surprise, and by this showed their cards. It's no accident that McConnell stopped funding for some of the candidates and has not once opened his mouth about the prolonged and stealthy vote count. They are on the side of their portfolios.
Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:24 PM (Zzbjj)

As I and others have said, DC is irreparably broken. Start focusing on fortifying your state or locale.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 12, 2022 12:31 PM (BdMk6)

265 Actually , a few bands that were playing in Hamburg alongside The Beatles, DID get record deals in the wake of The Beatles' success and made some money.
I think Gerry and The pacemakers were one.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:24 PM (mR6Gs)

I have a copy of this album: The Beatles, Very Together

https://tinyurl.com/4j9bz8w9

Much of it is the Beatles backing up singer Tony Sheridan, but you can easily hear that they were an accomplished working band.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2022 12:31 PM (4l5lv)

266 245 241. Can you recommend a squirt gun that could handle that substance?

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:27 PM (Zzbjj)

make it from the same materials the muratic acid containers are made of.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:31 PM (ynpvh)

267 But pernicious redistricting and simply existing patterns of political behavior (red - redder, blue - bluer) can easily result in congressional majorities in total votes not = victory overall. I don't recall this actually ever being a thing in contemporary elections, maybe it happened before. But the combo of gerrymandering and regionalism could easily produce such results on the congressional level (House, not Senate so much).
Posted by: rhomboid
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Probably about 20-30 seats were affected by mail in ballots which even if not fraudulent attract the lazy disconnected voter that generally did not vote in the past. Also many of those states allow ballot harvesting by paid party operatives.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 12:32 PM (CXr4y)

268 Can you recommend a squirt gun that could handle that substance?
Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:27 PM (Zzbjj)

Buy as many as you can find and see which one doesn't melt.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2022 12:32 PM (qH6FZ)

269 Dobie Gillis could not be reached for comment.
Posted by: go get your fuckin shine box

"I'm gonna kill that boy. . . "
-- Dobie's Dad

Posted by: Tonypete at November 12, 2022 12:32 PM (LsEU/)

270 Old and busted: The law of supply and demand.

New hotness: Rape, pillage, and rape.

Yes, I know I said rape twice.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:25 PM (NWBBy)

physical and econonic
Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:30 PM (ynpvh)

Good point. Literal and figurative.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:32 PM (NWBBy)

271 There are 5 seats that are toss ups now. GOP has to win 1/5 to get to 218.

Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 12:32 PM (b99Ap)

272 Talk of experts reminds me of a visit to one of our Army posts by some Israeli generals. A discussion of leadership ensued and command and control of troops in combat. These guys were veterans of the Six Day War and Yom Kippur, and our guys were vets of Viet Nam. Our guys talked about how the general would fly around with this G-3 (operations officer) to run the battles. One Israeli general laughed. He said he ran his Division...not the Operations officer. The guy who flew with him was his G-2 (Intelligence Officer). Because the G-2 was the "expert" on the enemy.
And I never met an Israeli Intel guy who wasn't an expert. They are good!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2022 12:33 PM (anj39)

273 Shrinkflation is sometimes painfully obvious. Tuna cans on a shelf with some delivered a few weeks ago. Likewise canned soups. Early this week I broke out the big crock pot and some freezer containers to cook up a large pack of chicken thighs (about double in price, Retardo). Gave it the old mushroom soup treatment. Two cans off my shelf, same old store brand, and one empty would fit in the other.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 12, 2022 12:33 PM (lz5hY)

274 Thomas Bender, oh yeah that should be the reaction - love that, "victories become more selective".

Note how the House of REPRESENTATIVES - designed to most closely reflect the will of the electorate, no "buffers" built in to the system unlike the presidency and (originally) the Senate - doesn't look very "representative" at the moment.

One might look at the totals (which *did* match the polling by the serious outfits) and think "huh, well maybe the country isn't dumbed down beyond self-preservation, after all". But then there's the final score. And the Senate races. And, especially the governors (MI, PA).

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2022 12:34 PM (OTzUX)

275 I understand that but I'm simply musing that as republican become more popular their victories become more selective.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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Dems spend their time worrying about winning power. Republicans spend their time worrying about protecting their donors and grift.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 12:34 PM (CXr4y)

276 Whenever i see The Thinker, I think "The Crapper"

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2022 12:34 PM (T4tVD)

277 275 I understand that but I'm simply musing that as republican become more popular their victories become more selective.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
---------------------
Dems spend their time worrying about winning power. Republicans spend their time worrying about protecting their donors and grift.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2022 12:34 PM (CXr4y)

They both protect their grifts.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:35 PM (ynpvh)

278 I was an "Army Brat" so we moved around a lot.

I spent 1st grade in 4 different schools. One in PA (2 weeks) and 3 others in Arizona (2 weeks, 2 months and the rest). It affected my ability to read. I finally caught up sometime around 5th or 6th grade, but it hurt me at the beginning.

Posted by: Neo at November 12, 2022 12:35 PM (X5CsJ)

279 I wish I had found this photo yesterday - Audie Murphy wearing all his medals and awards

https://tinyurl.com/3dhjs4ye

Posted by: Gref at November 12, 2022 12:35 PM (AMIL/)

280 Here !

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2022 12:35 PM (V13WU)

281 247 Was the weight of the stack of crackers in accordance with the label on the box? If the box label says "16 ounces", and the box contains only 12, that is fraud. But the same box, if labeled as 12 ounces, no fraud. Kinda wasteful of packaging material, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2022 12:25 PM

A pound is no longer a pound for a whole lot of food items. I have noticed the shrinkage creep for some years now. They seem to generally shrink whatever item it is by 2 ounces at a time but keep the price the same.
========
It's the hidden inflation of less product for the same price, which had been a slowly growing thing in the past decade. Until the time of the Installed Presidency, when we got the double whammy of hyperinflation and less product in the package.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 12, 2022 12:35 PM (W+kMI)

282 Can you recommend a squirt gun that could handle that substance?
Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:27 PM (Zzbjj)

Buy as many as you can find and see which one doesn't melt.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2022 12:32 PM (qH6FZ)

Skip the one made out of bathtub ceramic. Trust me on this.

Posted by: J. Pinkman at November 12, 2022 12:35 PM (NWBBy)

283 >Yet some idiots thought a better way to teach the kids how to read is by having them memorize the words.

And they eliminated memorization in math and started pushing the whatever it's called now. The crap with the "30 steps to determine 4x4" stuff. It's like they want a stupid population, for some reason.

Posted by: Fool Otto at November 12, 2022 12:36 PM (DB16e)

284 I understand that but I'm simply musing that as republican become more popular their victories become more selective.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2022 12:29 PM (k5LH7)

Almost as if the results were designed to support a predetermined narrative or something. I know. Crazy talk.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 12:36 PM (yHsuS)

285 Whenever i see The Thinker, I think "The Crapper"
Posted by: JT at November 12, 2022 12:34 PM (T4tVD)

Yeah. The statue needs a magazine.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2022 12:36 PM (anj39)

286 There's always been redistricting and regionalism.

We've never had national systemic cheating.
It must be stopped.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 12, 2022 12:36 PM (iEXgF)

287 266. PVC squirter guns available? Will look.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:36 PM (Zzbjj)

288 They aren't experts; they are "our in-house pets".

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 12, 2022 12:36 PM (K58O6)

289 So a heads up to anyone who's not a super shopping analytical mathematician.
You may be paying more for less... And not realizing it.
Posted by: LenNeal at November 12, 2022 12:26 PM (43xH1)

Yeah, this is old news for me. The answer is to always be vigilant when you shop.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2022 12:36 PM (4l5lv)

290 There are 5 seats that are toss ups now. GOP has to win 1/5 to get to 218.

Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 12:32 PM (b99Ap)

Even if they pick up all five--which they won't--it's a massive letdown

That early , mass-mail in voting should be outlawed.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:37 PM (mR6Gs)

291 5M vote advantage for gop shows how gerrymandering works. Look at Nevada as prime example. The Dems carved out 3 districts where the D would win by a small margin. Then left the 4th one deep red. Overall Nevada got more R votes than D votes but Ds won 75% of seats.

Mass is a 65-35 D/R state but 100% of house seats are D.

Many more examples like this.

Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 12:37 PM (b99Ap)

292 Once got in door got through quick, has to be 100 people inside waiting for God knows what

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 12, 2022 12:38 PM (xsgbU)

293 I wish I had found this photo yesterday - Audie Murphy wearing all his medals and awards

https://tinyurl.com/3dhjs4ye
Posted by: Gref at November 12, 2022 12:35 PM (AMIL/)

Interesting... the CIB worn over the left pocket, and not the right.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:38 PM (NWBBy)

294 266 DIY instructions are available online

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:38 PM (Zzbjj)

295 BIDEN-FETTERMAN 2024!
it's a no brainer!

little joke I saw this morning.

Posted by: Fool Otto at November 12, 2022 12:38 PM (DB16e)

296 282 Can you recommend a squirt gun that could handle that substance?
Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:27 PM (Zzbjj)

Buy as many as you can find and see which one doesn't melt.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2022 12:32 PM (qH6FZ)

Skip the one made out of bathtub ceramic. Trust me on this.

Posted by: J. Pinkman at November 12, 2022 12:35 PM (NWBBy)

I thought he used hydrofluoric acid...

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:38 PM (ynpvh)

297 Yep whig, I left out changes in voting patterns due to many votes being cultivated/harvested, not spontaneous actions by responsible sane citizens. And, of course, fraud, some of which may now be embedded in that process.

Chain of custody/security of original artifacts was, of course, always a key component of election process integrity. Then - poof! Just gone. No big deal, whatever, right?

Don't really know how even to describe this kind of thing. Obvious common sense elements of key systems just trashed, and the circus moves on as if it's OK. Ditto all the electronic nonsense in voting and tabulation.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2022 12:38 PM (OTzUX)

298 BIDEN-FETTERMAN 2024!
it's a no brainer!

==

lol

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2022 12:38 PM (V13WU)

299 "experts in healthcare"

The majority of medical workers have mediocre brainpower at best, and an increasing fraction of docs are foreign work visa imports.

Posted by: somedood at November 12, 2022 12:38 PM (BaGvt)

300 289 So a heads up to anyone who's not a super shopping analytical mathematician.
You may be paying more for less... And not realizing it.
Posted by: LenNeal at November 12, 2022 12:26 PM (43xH1)

Yeah, this is old news for me. The answer is to always be vigilant when you shop.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2022 12:36 PM (4l5lv)

Some stores have a price/ounce or similar metric for those math declined.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:39 PM (ynpvh)

301 The best old school squirt guns were the ones that looked like and were the same size as a Luger. The grip could hold a lot of water. When I was taking care of apartments I found a holster on a closet shelf and thought I hit the jackpot. Kind of did. Squirt gun Luger like I had as a kid stuffed into a pretty fair Kraut holster. Got a few bucks out of it. Didn't have the cleaning rod or loading tool.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 12, 2022 12:41 PM (lz5hY)

302 Whenever i see The Thinker, I think "The Crapper"
Posted by: JT at November 12, 2022 12:34 PM (T4tVD)

Yeah. The statue needs a magazine.
Posted by: Diogenes

And a roll of TP.

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2022 12:41 PM (T4tVD)

303 And yes, it's all by design.

If the GOP HAD picked up 20-30 seats in the House, there would almost certainly have been investigations into Ray Epps, Ukraine, Hunter's laptop, Biden's corruption, etc---and neither side wants to go there, so the GOP cut a deal with the Commies and betrayed their own voters and kept GOP gains to a bare minimum.

This is the second cycle now where the GOP or Trump got MORE votes than they got the previous time and still LOST

Also, Joe Fuckin'Biden lost FEWER seats in his midterm that either Bill Clinton OR Obama??
How does that work?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:41 PM (mR6Gs)

304 Interesting... the CIB worn over the left pocket, and not the right.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:38 PM (NWBBy)

That is where it goes.
Currently, the Combat Infantryman Badge is worn one-quarter (0.25") inch above the service ribbons above the left-breast pocket of the Class-A uniform coat and of the other uniforms with which the CIB is authorized.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2022 12:42 PM (anj39)

305 303 ...This is the second cycle now where the GOP or Trump got MORE votes than they got the previous time and still LOST

Also, Joe Fuckin'Biden lost FEWER seats in his midterm that either Bill Clinton OR Obama??
How does that work?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:41 PM (mR6Gs)

Do I need to answer this rhetorical question?

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:42 PM (ynpvh)

306 272 And I never met an Israeli Intel guy who wasn't an expert. They are good!
=======
The IDF Intel man knew that the survival of his nation and his people depended on his expertise, so he had good reason to be effective. We have too many experts in the Deep State and greater Bureaucracy (and in the private fields) who have no real commitment to the results of their expertise. Good results, bad results, they still get paid.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 12, 2022 12:42 PM (W+kMI)

307 Can you recommend a squirt gun that could handle that substance?
Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:27 PM (Zzbjj)

Buy as many as you can find and see which one doesn't melt.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2022 12:32 PM (qH6FZ)

Chem labs use Nalgene (brand) wash bottles for acids. Basically durable polyethylene. Buy muriatic acid at the hardware store, which I did recently, and it comes in a polyethylene jug.

Most plastics are resistant to mineral acids. But you wouldn't want a squirt gun that leaks onto your hand, would you?

Probably one of the best ways to defeat a robot would be to spray black paint on its "eyes".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2022 12:43 PM (4l5lv)

308 299 quite a few foreign docs have little knowledge of previous treatment options. I recall having a chat with one who needed an explanation on the existence of nembutal, and that it was different from nabumetone. Stunning.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:43 PM (Zzbjj)

309 Whenever i see The Thinker, I think "The Crapper"

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2022 12:34 PM

I see Jack Lemmon in "Grumpier Old Men".

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 12, 2022 12:43 PM (Do5/p)

310 306 272 And I never met an Israeli Intel guy who wasn't an expert. They are good!
=======
The IDF Intel man knew that the survival of his nation and his people depended on his expertise, so he had good reason to be effective. We have too many experts in the Deep State and greater Bureaucracy (and in the private fields) who have no real commitment to the results of their expertise. Good results, bad results, they still get paid.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 12, 2022 12:42 PM (W+kMI)

Hunter Biden is an expert in many areas.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:43 PM (ynpvh)

311 How does that work?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:41 PM (mR6Gs)

With GOP McComplicity.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 12:43 PM (yHsuS)

312 Braenyard the disconnect between total votes and seats won may/may not be unique, or unusual, don't know. But a 5M vote advantage doesn't on its face suggest fraud, unless one posits the actual margin was 6M or 7M.

And again, "fraud" as a general vague universal allegation is useless and easily lampooned as sour grapes (or "insurrection!"). Specifics, facts, concrete evidence, "smoke indicating fire" (such as in abundant for the 2020 presidential, in specific states) are valuable, everything else not so much.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2022 12:43 PM (OTzUX)

313 Winning state houses in years of the census is paramount. That’s because those state houses draw up congressional districts. And that’s what matters more than popular house vote totals.

Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 12:43 PM (b99Ap)

314 Posted by: J. Pinkman at November 12, 2022 12:35 PM (NWBBy)

I thought he used hydrofluoric acid...
Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:38 PM (ynpvh)

Jesse's no expert on acids.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:43 PM (NWBBy)

315 Posted by: exdem13 at November 12, 2022 12:42 PM (W+kMI) @ 306.

Exactly.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2022 12:44 PM (anj39)

316 Some stores have a price/ounce or similar metric for those math declined.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:39 PM (ynpvh)

All grocery chains have this info on the price label on the shelf (in tiny print). Very useful when pricing what you'll get buying the same or similar product in differently-sized packages. Especially paper towels and TP.

Posted by: Gref at November 12, 2022 12:44 PM (AMIL/)

317 312 Braenyard the disconnect between total votes and seats won may/may not be unique, or unusual, don't know. But a 5M vote advantage doesn't on its face suggest fraud, unless one posits the actual margin was 6M or 7M.

And again, "fraud" as a general vague universal allegation is useless and easily lampooned as sour grapes (or "insurrection!"). Specifics, facts, concrete evidence, "smoke indicating fire" (such as in abundant for the 2020 presidential, in specific states) are valuable, everything else not so much.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2022 12:43 PM (OTzUX)

Sorry, no court will hear "evidence" of fraud in a presidential election if it involves the Dems winning.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:44 PM (ynpvh)

318 Maybe just a simple sling shot would work against the robot- if you’re lobbing powerful magnets. But then you can’t carry to many without the danger of them getting stuck together, even crushing a finger or limb.

Posted by: Rex B at November 12, 2022 12:44 PM (PNCm+)

319 So a heads up to anyone who's not a super shopping analytical mathematician.
You may be paying more for less... And not realizing it.
Posted by: LenNeal at November 12, 2022 12:26 PM (43xH1)

Yeah, this is old news for me. The answer is to always be vigilant when you shop.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

This is something I like about Wal-Mart. They have "small" pricing. You see the price but underneath is a price per ounce or whatever. It helps to get the best value buy. I can live with most generic or off brands.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2022 12:44 PM (Wy1BU)

320 I'm making my 2024 presidential election prediction now: Biden will win.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 12, 2022 12:45 PM (BdMk6)

321 That early , mass-mail in voting should be outlawed.

PA's first mail-in ballot dump was 250k votes - all for Fetterman. This covered the MOV.

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2022 12:45 PM (dCxaZ)

322 295. A good way for people who could not run for office, or could not legally hold office, to run and destroy our country.

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 12:45 PM (Zzbjj)

323 Isn't a national divorce closer to a reality at this point? How will Mich and Penn fix their elections when they just stole the last two and now have all the power that's needed to fix it? And it looks like Az might get away with another steal. Im slowly climbing aboard the DOOM! train.

Posted by: Fool Otto at November 12, 2022 12:45 PM (DB16e)

324 Sounds like we will have another week of BS, before Dems swallow and acknowledge the House.

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2022 12:45 PM (V13WU)

325 Interesting... the CIB worn over the left pocket, and not the right.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:38 PM (NWBBy)

That is where it goes.
Currently, the Combat Infantryman Badge is worn one-quarter (0.25") inch above the service ribbons above the left-breast pocket of the Class-A uniform coat and of the other uniforms with which the CIB is authorized.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2022 12:42 PM (anj39)

I must be getting old. I thought it was over the right. Has it been changed at some point?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:46 PM (NWBBy)

326 My state is reliably red. But I saw endless commercials for the guy running for senate. Each time I saw one I was like why am I seeing this? Why is money wasted on this ad, when it should be spent in Arizona or Nevada or Georgia or on the 50 competitive house seats?

Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 12:46 PM (b99Ap)

327 Well, time for me to get on with my day. My mission today is to do the front brakes on a Suburban.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2022 12:46 PM (4l5lv)

328 326 My state is reliably red. But I saw endless commercials for the guy running for senate. Each time I saw one I was like why am I seeing this? Why is money wasted on this ad, when it should be spent in Arizona or Nevada or Georgia or on the 50 competitive house seats?

Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 12:46 PM (b99Ap)

What Mitch wanted.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:46 PM (ynpvh)

329 gotta run. Have a good day.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 12, 2022 12:47 PM (ynpvh)

330 Posted by: Fool Otto at November 12, 2022 12:45 PM (DB16e)

what's that saying - "Evil prospers when good men do nothing".

GOP had full control of PA during Tom Corbett's administration, and they did NOTHING to clean up our state's elections. The current state of election criminality in the Keystone State is a joint project brought to you by the Uniparty.

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2022 12:48 PM (dCxaZ)

331 Definition of Expert: "X" is an unknown quantity and "spurt" is a drip under pressure.

Posted by: Jollyr at November 12, 2022 12:48 PM (Bt1fp)

332 If the GOP HAD picked up 20-30 seats in the House, there would almost certainly have been investigations into Ray Epps, Ukraine, Hunter's laptop, Biden's corruption, etc---and neither side wants to go there, so the GOP cut a deal with the Commies and betrayed their own voters and kept GOP gains to a bare minimum.

This is the second cycle now where the GOP or Trump got MORE votes than they got the previous time and still LOST

Also, Joe Fuckin'Biden lost FEWER seats in his midterm that either Bill Clinton OR Obama??
How does that work?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:41 PM (mR6Gs)

Especially when people are on the balls of their ass with this economy compared to 2 years ago. Either Americans have become soooo fucking stupid they deserve to be invaded and enslaved, or strange things are afoot.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 12, 2022 12:48 PM (VwHCD)

333 I must be getting old. I thought it was over the right. Has it been changed at some point?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:46 PM (NWBBy)

Heh.
Not that I am aware. But yeah, this getting old stuff sucks on some days.
Unit awards go above the right pocket.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2022 12:48 PM (anj39)

334 290 That early mass-mail in voting should be outlawed.
====
That is it right there. Lengthy mail-in voting periods before actual election days opens the door to ready corruption of election results. CPT Charles feels the early mailed ballots have been more effective than the hapless Dominion machines.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 12, 2022 12:49 PM (W+kMI)

335 Corbett was governor from 2011-2015, so it's not like demorat election fraud was a novel concept or anything like that.

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2022 12:49 PM (dCxaZ)

336 Yes, search algorithms have become useless because they are being tailored to nitwits and/or manipulated for purposes that have nothing to do with the quality of the search.

Like whig, my knowledge is of legal databases. Back in the day, you used "terms and connectors" (i.e. Boolean) searching. That means you define the words you want to find and then define how close and precise the results need to be. (All words in the same sentence? Within 2 words? Noun in both singular and plural? )

But a decade or so ago the research services started to Googlize queries to make it easier for newbies. Well, that works, but they get crappy results. When I retired 6 years ago, you could still use the old Boolean method and I ALWAYS got quicker and better results than anyone else.

Why, yes, I WAS considered the research "expert" in my group.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at November 12, 2022 12:50 PM (fTtFy)

337 Definition of Expert: "X" is an unknown quantity and "spurt" is a drip under pressure.
Posted by: Jollyr at November 12, 2022 12:48 PM (Bt1fp)

Snort!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2022 12:50 PM (anj39)

338 Either Americans have become soooo fucking stupid they deserve to be invaded and enslaved, or strange things are afoot.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 12, 2022 12:48 PM (VwHCD)

Here, lemme sell you an "and," cheap.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:51 PM (NWBBy)

339 In the end there is no one reason. It’s a combination of shitty GOTV execution, misallocated funding by the RNC, abortion having more impact than was predicted, Trump being a liability, less than stellar candidates, gerrymander advantage for Dems in the house and of course fraud.

Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 12:51 PM (b99Ap)

340 That is it right there. Lengthy mail-in voting periods before actual election days opens the door to ready corruption of election results. CPT Charles feels the early mailed ballots have been more effective than the hapless Dominion machines.
Posted by: exdem13 at November 12, 2022 12:49 PM (W+kMI)

Also gives lie to the typical "independent voter" cop- out of , " I want to look at all sides before I make my decision."
Yeah, so you vote in September?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:51 PM (mR6Gs)

341 Maybe just a simple sling shot would work against the robot- if you’re lobbing powerful magnets. But then you can’t carry to many without the danger of them getting stuck together, even crushing a finger or limb.
Posted by: Rex B

Fling some kind of acid pod that breaks on contact. Or Y'know just shoot the bastard with explosive rounds from a 12 gauge.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2022 12:51 PM (Wy1BU)

342 I've pretty much come to the point where I'm not going to vote anymore for national election candidates. Just local and state.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 12, 2022 12:52 PM (BdMk6)

343 The popular vote?
In the house 101 million votes cast the GoP got 52 million
Definitely a win but much less than historically expected for a midterm

Posted by: Paul at November 12, 2022 12:53 PM (+gqql)

344 Especially when people are on the balls of their ass with this economy compared to 2 years ago. Either Americans have become soooo fucking stupid they deserve to be invaded and enslaved, or strange things are afoot.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 12, 2022 12:48 PM (VwHCD)

"It's the economay, stupid! Unless it's not."

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 12:53 PM (mR6Gs)

345 Put used motor oil in your squirt gun and spray the robot's eyes. I think I saw that on the A-Team or something.

Posted by: fd at November 12, 2022 12:54 PM (sn5EN)

346 In the end there is no one reason. It’s a combination of shitty GOTV execution, misallocated funding by the RNC, abortion having more impact than was predicted, Trump being a liability, less than stellar candidates, gerrymander advantage for Dems in the house and of course fraud.

Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 12:51 PM

I had a nagging feeling that abortion was going to be a problem after that Kansas vote earlier in the year.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 12, 2022 12:54 PM (bVYXr)

347 The midget inside that robot is very talented.

Posted by: General Disarray at November 12, 2022 12:54 PM (TcQeK)

348 Isn't Dylan Mulvaney parodying the wokesters?

Posted by: m at November 12, 2022 12:55 PM (0ixKl)

349 ...It's like they want a stupid population, for some reason.

Posted by: Fool Otto at November 12, 2022 12:36 PM (DB16e)

And they already have it, as was proved last Tuesday.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 12, 2022 12:55 PM (XoWmA)

350 I was just on Kari Lake's twitter, she's congratulating new "R" governor of NV.

that's a pretty big "get"

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2022 12:55 PM (dCxaZ)

351 As far as the economy goes, the impact of inflation disproportionally hurts working class voters. These voters did go GOP. But for upper income voters, it’s less of an impact and they kinda shrugged and said nah Dem it is, we’re cool.

Someone making $50k a year feels the impact of $4 gas a lot more than someone making $150k a year.

Posted by: No more bullshit please at November 12, 2022 12:55 PM (b99Ap)

352 Maybe just a simple sling shot would work against the robot- if you’re lobbing powerful magnets. But then you can’t carry to many without the danger of them getting stuck together, even crushing a finger or limb.
Posted by: Rex B

Fling some kind of acid pod that breaks on contact. Or Y'know just shoot the bastard with explosive rounds from a 12 gauge.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2022 12:51 PM (Wy1BU)

Alls I know is whichever nation is dumb enough to spend bazillions of dollars on robot warriors is likely to find relatively quickly that an enterprising and motivated enemy, with any amount of human ingenuity is going to figure out how to defeat the dumb things pretty quickly.

Movies that show differently are wrong.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:56 PM (NWBBy)

353 You have to give the Russians their due.
Unlike Joe Biden who performed a world-class epic failure of a withdraw from Afghanistan, the Russians seem to have done their withdraw from the city of Kherson quite well.

Posted by: Neo at November 12, 2022 12:56 PM (X5CsJ)

354

There is something else involved with "micro-targetting", which obama machine perfected - target on interest. They knew block by block, street by street, and because FB and the like were working for them , what people wanted/needed. For example, a woman who was pro-abortion would get candidate ads targeting that. Seniors would get ads targeting whatever concerned them. It is not the spam that we get with the usual generic political ads. One more thing, they did not invent it. As far back as Bush/Rove at least, that type of analysis and targetting of the electorate at least, existed. At the granular level, Rove knew what to expect county by county (I read his book, it is worth reading, if only to see how the heck they did it after almost losing in 2000), and when they needed it even further down. ANd that is how you win. But it takes brains , resources to do that.

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2022 12:56 PM (V13WU)

355 Nembutal, that's an oldy

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 12, 2022 12:56 PM (iEXgF)

356 Also on the further discussion of the failure of experts, it's worth noting that a lot of so-called experts are academic or information-based with little or no practical application of that expert knowledge. Even if said experience is 20-25 years old, some practical application results in some experience that can temper and expand the knowledge into a real knowledge of said expert topic. Too many people have "book learning" that they can't turn into active demonstration of applied knowledge.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 12, 2022 12:56 PM (W+kMI)

357
I must be getting old. I thought it was over the right. Has it been changed at some point?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:46 PM (NWBBy)

No

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 12, 2022 12:56 PM (BdMk6)

358 74 I remember seeing a video of a middle aged black woman who finally learned to read using phonetics. She said, "I always knew there was some secret they weren't telling me."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2022 11:43 AM

That makes me so angry. I wor with the kids I babysit with flash cards and teach them the sounds when they are little. They are little sponges and soak it up. I could teach anyone to read with phonics.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 12, 2022 12:56 PM (4XsZ/)

359 345 Put used motor oil in your squirt gun and spray the robot's eyes. I think I saw that on the A-Team or something.

Posted by: fd at November 12, 2022 12:54 PM (sn5EN)

First you need three of the Team to shoot at the robot with stainless Mini-14's to distract it (but not hit it or any accompanying bad guys).

Posted by: Gref at November 12, 2022 12:56 PM (AMIL/)

360 The midget inside that robot is very talented.
Posted by: General Disarray

No more than Lumpy's lump !

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2022 12:57 PM (T4tVD)

361 Speaking of Dylan Mulvaney, I hate the new title Influencer. When the fuck did that start? And what the fuck does it mean, other than propagandist.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 12, 2022 12:57 PM (XoWmA)

362 Or Y'know just shoot the bastard with explosive rounds from a 12 gauge.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)

Shotty would be fun. Was thinking the magnet if it can stay close enough might impact the electro circuitry.

Posted by: Rex B at November 12, 2022 12:58 PM (nqN63)

363 Dave and Co podcast is up, BTW.

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2022 12:58 PM (V13WU)

364 Movies that show differently are wrong.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 12:56 PM (NWBBy)

Without armor and human level AI, it is just dumb programming tin cans waiting to get plinked off. Add armor, and you need quite the power pack and infrastructure to recharge them to move all that weight around.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 12:58 PM (yHsuS)

365 The Cheating Variable must be eliminated before true voter sentiment can be evaluated.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 12, 2022 12:59 PM (iEXgF)

366 For those who haven't seen, and are interested, the podcast is live on the sidebar.

Have at it, and tell me I am nuts.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 12, 2022 12:59 PM (5p7BC)

367 "It's the economay, stupid! Unless it's not."
Posted by: JoeF

Too many people are still insulated from the economic problems. They can still afford their phone and Starbucks and if they need some extra drachma, well mom and dad will help out if the spawn whine enough. Older, more affluent people aren't feeling it yet either.
This economy is only hurting the poor, the working class and the middle class. Just the way the commies intended.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2022 12:59 PM (Wy1BU)

368 I know a lot of people are dispirited and don't want to vote in national elections anymore, I have felt the same way. But we can't bow to the demonrat plan. They *want* us to quit.

I don't care that in my state the steal is pretty much baked in the cake right now. NO situation is static, none. At some point, things will change and correct. It may be a time in the future when I'm no longer of this earth plane. I don't care. Most people now living have children and descendants. I'm thinking of them.

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2022 01:00 PM (dCxaZ)

369 I believe there are true experts. But the term expert has become as misused as the word brave.

Posted by: polynikes at November 12, 2022 01:00 PM (Kme0F)

370 I remember seeing a video of a middle aged black woman who finally learned to read using phonetics. She said, "I always knew there was some secret they weren't telling me."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2022 11:43 AM

That makes me so angry. I wor with the kids I babysit with flash cards and teach them the sounds when they are little. They are little sponges and soak it up. I could teach anyone to read with phonics.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 12, 2022 12:56 PM (4XsZ/)

I wonder how much of this is intentional. I've worked with many very intelligent black people who struggled with pronouncing words. My last name was always butchered, and I used to think they just didn't care enough to get it right.

What if the Educational Industrial Complex has been doing this in predominantly black schools for decades?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 01:00 PM (NWBBy)

371 Re: Who chooses the Experts?

In the case of "Climate Change", much of it has to do with who in government is directing the funds. The Narrative is one that has zero consideration for Climate Mastery or How Oil is the only way to sustain a prosperous way of life for billions of people. The only ones chosen to be experts are those who fully subscribe to the anti-impact model where as the generation and use of energy is supposed to have no impact on Mother Earf. (they ignore the strip mining, the energy needed to extract, process, manufacture, ship and deploy the "Renewables" and the costs to the environment while running and the tear-down and decommissioning costs)

So in this case, the "Experts" were chosen based on their adherence to the Malthusian - deindustrialization philosophy

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 12, 2022 01:00 PM (3hSHB)

372 Maybe just a simple sling shot would work against the robot- if you’re lobbing powerful magnets. But then you can’t carry to many without the danger of them getting stuck together, even crushing a finger or limb.
Posted by: Rex B

Fling some kind of acid pod that breaks on contact. Or Y'know just shoot the bastard with explosive rounds from a 12 gauge.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2022 12:51 PM (Wy1BU)
***

A bola would work nicely too.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 12, 2022 01:01 PM (anj39)

373 369 I believe there are true experts. But the term expert has become as misused as the word brave.
Posted by: polynikes at November 12, 2022 01:00 PM (Kme0F)

Hero

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 12, 2022 01:01 PM (BdMk6)

374 Dave, I am listening right now. And I recommend. Oh, I got the point where CBD is talking about the point I made above. SO, people noticed. The sooner we realize that it is not magic or cheating , the better. Ha, Rove. (I should have listened to the whole thing before commenting. )

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2022 01:02 PM (V13WU)

375 Caucus "expertise" was to be in charge of funding. Like being chair of House Ways and Means -- everybody kisses your ass so you get your share of taxpayer money.

Posted by: Regular joe at November 12, 2022 01:02 PM (nnp+f)

376 A big cannon, doesn't it require three men, two of them doing mostly physical work? If so a robot could be those two men thus freeing up personnel to do more important work.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 12, 2022 01:03 PM (iEXgF)

377 Back in the day, you used "terms and connectors" (i.e. Boolean) searching.
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'Grep'

and 'Regular Expressions'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2022 01:03 PM (dXorq)

378 I wonder how much of this is intentional. I've worked with many very intelligent black people who struggled with pronouncing words. My last name was always butchered, and I used to think they just didn't care enough to get it right.

What if the Educational Industrial Complex has been doing this in predominantly black schools for decades?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 01:00 PM (NWBBy)

I think it absolutely is intentional. The biggest threat to these communist animals - and that's exactly what the democrats have become - are an educated population with critical thinking skills that can call bullshit on their bullshit.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 12, 2022 01:03 PM (XoWmA)

379 For those who haven't seen, and are interested, the podcast is live on the sidebar.

Have at it, and tell me I am nuts.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

?????

Why does everyone speak at the same time ?

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2022 01:04 PM (T4tVD)

380 What if the Educational Industrial Complex has been doing this in predominantly black schools for decades?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 01:00 PM (NWBBy)

Damn. That would explain a lot.

Hopefully not but lot of evil mofos out there.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 12, 2022 01:04 PM (R/m4+)

381 369 I believe there are true experts. But the term expert has become as misused as the word brave.
Posted by: polynikes at November 12, 2022 01:00 PM (Kme0F)

Hero
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 12, 2022 01:01 PM (BdMk6)

220 /221 but yeah better example as both nouns.

Posted by: polynikes at November 12, 2022 01:04 PM (Kme0F)

382 Just got in, have podcast on

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2022 01:05 PM (xhxe8)

383 Musical interlude:

https://tinyurl.com/8z5teua5

Lotte Kestner (aka Anna-Lynne Williams of Trespassers William) cover of the Radiohead song, "How To Disappear Completely." The songwriter says it's about the difficulty of being on the road. Anna-Lynne's version seems to take on a different, darker tone and meaning. Haunting.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 01:05 PM (NWBBy)

384 I believe there are true experts. But the term expert has become as misused as the word brave.

Didn't Nassim Nicholas Taleb write a series of books where he demonstrates that lay people often perform better than the so-called experts?

Experts seem to have their pet theories and it would take Herculean efforts to move them from a poor proposition, so they keep pushing failed ideas. Its how we get words like Lysenkoism.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 12, 2022 01:05 PM (3hSHB)

385 Funniest 'serious' twatter exchange I've ever read:

https://twitter.com/MWPolitics101/status/
1591224309028032512

Check out the bio descriptions and flags of the two commenters.

[Only two, brief twatts to read besides the original Quoted one and one reply to it.]

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 12, 2022 01:05 PM (yikp0)

386 340 That is it right there. Lengthy mail-in voting periods before actual election days opens the door to ready corruption of election results. CPT Charles feels the early mailed ballots have been more effective than the hapless Dominion machines.
Posted by: exdem13 at November 12, 2022 12:49 PM (W+kMI)

Also gives lie to the typical "independent voter" cop- out of , " I want to look at all sides before I make my decision."
Yeah, so you vote in September?
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No, my legs and car both work, so I vote on Election Day, as God and republic intended. For that matter, so do my bleeding hear parents, who only voted by mail in 2020. Ohio has about 5 weeks of early voting, but the completed mail-in ballots are sent to the state capitol for processing, instead of being kept at local precincts where no end of mischief can occur.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 12, 2022 01:06 PM (W+kMI)

387 Dave if still here, been wondering do people go through the voting results looking for things that just don't compute?

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2022 01:06 PM (xhxe8)

388 Looks like the hair challenged astronaut (just ask him, he'll tell you) running on sympathy for his wife, is still a Senator from AZ.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 12, 2022 01:07 PM (lz5hY)

389 I have had at the podcast- hello, Dave. I don't agree with everything you said, but it was certainly interesting! This is part of what I posted on CJN in response:

1) Charlie Crist is a genuinely terrible candidate, and not really a Democrat in the minds of his own voters. Well, that happens.

2) Ron DeSantis is a relatively popular governor with the support of his base and competent performance in the face of natural disasters. Nothing wrong with that.

3) The Democrats would not cheat, even if they could, because DeSantis would happily throw them in prison ahead of his 2024 run. Sensible, even if illegality has not stopped Democrats in any serious way before.

4) Where the analysis of Florida falls apart is the notion of the Democrats not using their legal methods to produce votes. Assuming ballot harvesting is legal when votes aren’t tampered with- this is undercut by testimony to DeSantis’ own election commission- it’s all the more strange...

See more at CJN!

Posted by: trev006 at November 12, 2022 01:07 PM (igJSL)

390 Back off man, I'm a scientist!

Posted by: Dr. Venkman at November 12, 2022 01:08 PM (8XEU0)

391
What if the Educational Industrial Complex has been doing this in predominantly black schools for decades?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 01:00 PM (NWBBy)

It really makes you wonder. I had no idea that schools aren't using phonics. That's how I learned to read. It has to be on purpose. I mean what other explanation could there be?

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 12, 2022 01:09 PM (4XsZ/)

392 In 2020 there was abnormal voting, for instance candidate A gets tens of thousands more than a parallel race below that .

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2022 01:09 PM (xhxe8)

393 Shotty would be fun. Was thinking the magnet if it can stay close enough might impact the electro circuitry.

Tasers?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 12, 2022 01:09 PM (3hSHB)

394 370 What if the Educational Industrial Complex has been doing this in predominantly black schools for decades?
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Remember what Rush used to say about "the soft bigotry of low expectations"? That, and the once-popular move to legitimize "ebonics"? Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it at all that the educational sabotage, regardless of intentions, has been going on for a while.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 12, 2022 01:10 PM (W+kMI)

395 Anna-Lynne's version seems to take on a different, darker tone and meaning. Haunting.
Posted by: BurtTC

Darker than Radiohead? Well, shit.

Posted by: trev006 at November 12, 2022 01:10 PM (igJSL)

396
Why does everyone speak at the same time ?

Multiplexing

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 12, 2022 01:10 PM (63Dwl)

397 Looks like the hair challenged astronaut (just ask him, he'll tell you) running on sympathy for his wife, is still a Senator from AZ.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 12, 2022 01:07 PM (lz5hY)

Don't believe the "news" media.

Looks like he probably will pull it out, but it depends on just HOW strongly the remaining ballots break for Masters. Because break they will. Lake is basically a sure thing. Masters... it's a hard road to a win. But the media is calling it, not because they know anything anyone else doesn't.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 01:11 PM (NWBBy)

398 >>> I wonder how much of this is intentional. I've worked with many very intelligent black people who struggled with pronouncing words. My last name was always butchered, and I used to think they just didn't care enough to get it right.
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Posted by: BurtTC
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Interesting, blacks are the only group that come close to pronouncing my name correctly.

aside: I think cultures are attuned/taught to hear and apply logic differently (not in a negative way). The iirc Japanese didn't have a word for green until exposed to the white man. They only had different shades of blue.
I think in the same way different cultures learn to hear sounds.
We hear the same sound but interpret it differently.
I have no reference of logic but it follows.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 12, 2022 01:11 PM (iEXgF)

399 If you have over 60,000 hours*, hands on, logged as an engineer does that make you an expert?

*Note: It does not make you rich or famous.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 12, 2022 01:12 PM (geVLo)

400 Posted by: Reuben Hick at November 12, 2022 01:05 PM (3hSHB)

Yes. IMHO they are only experts within the parameters of their theory and not the field itself.

Posted by: polynikes at November 12, 2022 01:12 PM (Kme0F)

401 But the media is calling it, not because they know anything anyone else doesn't.
Posted by: BurtTC

The media want to be the only people to decide an election. They don't want to report what the citizens decide, they want to decide and report their decisions.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2022 01:13 PM (Wy1BU)

402 Anna-Lynne's version seems to take on a different, darker tone and meaning. Haunting.
Posted by: BurtTC

Darker than Radiohead? Well, shit.
Posted by: trev006 at November 12, 2022 01:10 PM (igJSL)

I could be wrong, but hearing her version, I took it to be someone dissociating from a horrific event... likely a rape, singing the song as if it's happening in the moment.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 01:14 PM (NWBBy)

403 Tasers?
Posted by: Reuben Hick

Good call.

A bb gun. Toss the gun and dump the carton of bb’s all over the floor.

Posted by: Rex B at November 12, 2022 01:14 PM (UUBIv)

404 385 Funniest 'serious' twatter exchange I've ever read:

https://twitter.com/MWPolitics101/status/
1591224309028032512

Check out the bio descriptions and flags of the two commenters. [Only two, brief twatts to read besides the original Quoted one and one reply to it.]
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 12, 2022 01:05 PM (yikp0)

heh

Posted by: m at November 12, 2022 01:14 PM (0ixKl)

405 It really makes you wonder. I had no idea that schools aren't using phonics. That's how I learned to read. It has to be on purpose. I mean what other explanation could there be?
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 12, 2022 01:09 PM (4XsZ/

They went to rehab. ......wait for it

Posted by: polynikes at November 12, 2022 01:15 PM (Kme0F)

406 🦃 jive turkey test

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 12, 2022 01:15 PM (yikp0)

407 >>> Yet some idiots thought a better way to teach the kids how to read is by having them memorize the words. Given that there are more than a million words in the English language, this is just unrealistic. Yet the idiots somehow managed to prevail, mostly because it made less work for the teachers.

My mother, who was a teacher, was always appalled by this.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at November 12, 2022 12:22 PM (xxG/v)

I learned by memorization or something. I don't know how I learned but it wasn't in school. I taught myself how using a dictionary and every book I could find around the age of six. Because I was a bored kid alone at home. And then I got to spend the next 13 years in class banging my head on the desk while some kid reads aloud "jh jh jho o nee wha wha ...[five hours later] walked uuuuu p th th the hii il".

Posted by: banana Dream at November 12, 2022 01:15 PM (0fVbu)

408 Also on the further discussion of the failure of experts, it's worth noting that a lot of so-called experts are academic or information-based with little or no practical application of that expert knowledge.
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I once attended a technology seminar which had, as one of the speakers, a Polish physicist who had emigrated after WWII. The fellow gave a fine lecture on the topic at hand.

In the first 5 minutes, he had filled two blackboards with equations. People's eyes glazed over. I'll add, as an aside, the two most confused folks there were spooks.

That evening, I along with two or three others, had dinner with him, and nice conversation. At one point, he almost quizzically stated, 'But I have no idea how you (speaking to us) make any practical use of the theory...how you manifest it as physical things, or action.'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2022 01:16 PM (O8Vti)

409 Looks like neither Masters or Laxalt from NV are gonna throw in the towel... Good for them.. I'd fight it

Posted by: It's me donna at November 12, 2022 01:17 PM (bs+z0)

410 I'm a naturally memorization guy .

Posted by: polynikes at November 12, 2022 01:17 PM (Kme0F)

411 🦃 jive turkey test
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 12, 2022 01:15 PM (yikp0)

🕺🦃

Posted by: banana Dream at November 12, 2022 01:17 PM (0fVbu)

412 Interesting, blacks are the only group that come close to pronouncing my name correctly.

aside: I think cultures are attuned/taught to hear and apply logic differently (not in a negative way). The iirc Japanese didn't have a word for green until exposed to the white man. They only had different shades of blue.
I think in the same way different cultures learn to hear sounds.
We hear the same sound but interpret it differently.
I have no reference of logic but it follows.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 12, 2022 01:11 PM (iEXgF)

Absolutely, which is why this topic (thanks, KT!) is so important. There is so much knowledge out there, so many people who have information and expertise that we don't... it's humbling sometimes to recognize the limitations on our own awareness, and it's absolutely crucial to be open to others'.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 01:17 PM (NWBBy)

413 A developing report.
Arizona Ballots Make Stop at Runbeck Printing Company to Sort Ballots Before They Are Sent to County — WITH NO OBSERVERS

Ben Bergquam was outside the Maricopa County election center and followed a Penske truck leave the center and return to Runbeck. Once at Runbeck, the gate is closed.

Chain of custody violation.
Story at Gateway Pundit.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, thanks vets at November 12, 2022 01:17 PM (jTmQV)

414 Interesting, blacks are the only group that come close to pronouncing my name correctly.
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"breen-yerd"??

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 12, 2022 01:18 PM (yikp0)

415 Arnold Schwarzenegger handing out hotdogs and coffee to vets. What a special guy.

I'd drive 20 miles to get a hotdog and coffee from Arnold.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 12, 2022 01:18 PM (geVLo)

416 If you have over 60,000 hours*, hands on, logged as an engineer does that make you an expert?

*Note: It does not make you rich or famous.
Posted by: Dr. Bone

It would if ya did it with no pants on !

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2022 01:19 PM (T4tVD)

417 © Anna Moneymaker/Justin Sullivan/Getty Images
Masters, who was beaten by Democratic Senator Mark Kelly in Arizona, is one of several Republicans who have now appeared to question McConnell ahead of leadership elections scheduled for Wednesday following the midterm elect

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 12, 2022 01:19 PM (iEXgF)

418 🕺🦃
Posted by: banana Dream
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Perfect!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 12, 2022 01:19 PM (yikp0)

419 : andycanuck (yikp0) ,
That was an interesting National Pulse article but it didn't enumerate the 219 out of 235 endorsements that Trump won.

That needs to be done.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 12, 2022 01:21 PM (iEXgF)

420 407 Mom and Dad taught me to read pre K. Very simple, learn how to read. At an early age I would have to read books for guests out loud. Also, Mom was a big fan of taking my young ass to the library and getting books from the adult section ( not pervo) instead of the kiddies.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 12, 2022 01:21 PM (lz5hY)

421 I'd drive 20 miles to get a hotdog and coffee from Arnold.
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But not walk a mile for a Kamala??

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 12, 2022 01:21 PM (yikp0)

422 Skip - not in an official capacity, but the data nerds do when things are just not fitting historical patterns.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 12, 2022 01:22 PM (5p7BC)

423 Looks like neither Masters or Laxalt from NV are gonna throw in the towel... Good for them.. I'd fight it
Posted by: It's me donna at November 12, 2022 01:17 PM (bs+z0)

Last I saw Laxalt was still leading, but I haven't been watching closely. Not sure what is still coming in, or what the dems are prepared to do to take the seat.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 01:22 PM (NWBBy)

424 I didn't make my point clear I guess about the UPC: that informative tag on the shelf giving you $/oz MIGHT not be correct if the manufacturer is shipping US, the retailer, less product in identical packaging with an identical UPC code. It's up to us to catch it. We don't always.

Posted by: LenNeal at November 12, 2022 01:22 PM (b5ENh)

425 Twitter link to Ben Bergquam, reporting the chain of custody violation.

https://twitter.com/BenBergquam/status/
1590939018824683521

Posted by: gourmand du jour, thanks vets at November 12, 2022 01:22 PM (jTmQV)

426 415 Arnold Schwarzenegger handing out hotdogs and coffee to vets. What a special guy.

I'd drive 20 miles to get a hotdog and coffee from Arnold.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 12, 2022 01:18 PM (geVLo)

Cool!

Posted by: m at November 12, 2022 01:24 PM (0ixKl)

427 Perfect!
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 12, 2022 01:19 PM (yikp0)

I love this hash. I don't know why but its causing me to giggle uncontrollably. It's like mashup of "ick! people!"
Oh sick there are people here! Shortened to YIKPO!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2022 01:24 PM (Wy1BU)

428 >Twitter link to Ben Bergquam, reporting the chain of custody violation.

I guess those ballots have to be taken off-site and edited for accuracy

Posted by: DB at November 12, 2022 01:26 PM (geLO8)

429 Last I saw Laxalt was still leading, but I haven't been watching closely. Not sure what is still coming in, or what the dems are prepared to do to take the seat.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 12, 2022 01:22 PM (NWBBy)

Up by 800 but the rest of the ballots are going to come from Democratic stronghold Vegas. Laxalt is done, he even Tweeted this morning it doesn't look good, to prepare his supporters.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2022 01:27 PM (qH6FZ)

430 Garden nood

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 12, 2022 01:27 PM (u73oe)

431 87 Back in the early 60's, our little Catholic grade school tried a new method of teaching kids to read. They joined the dipthongs, and some other stuff.
Anywho, my younger brother spent that one year with that crap, and still is not a good reader. He's the only one of 8 is isn't. Just as smart, just missed that critical year, IMO.
Posted by: MkY at November 12, 2022 11:49 AM (cPGH3)
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This sounds like ITA (Initial Teaching Alphabet, but we kids pronounced it IT-ah just to piss the teacher off).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_Teaching_Alphabet

I mean, I learned to read well enough, but I was surrounded by books and had a reading family. I can't tell if it helped or hindered.

My generation were guinea pigs for all manner of pedagogic puffery, like New Math and open space architecture. No walls, man!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at November 12, 2022 01:28 PM (Dc2NZ)

432 Apparently @joekent16jan19’s campaign has discovered 6500 ballots that have been rejected so far that could potentially make up the deficit if those voters “cure” their ballots and fix whatever issues.

If you voted for him make sure you check that it was accepted! #WA03

https://tinyurl.com/32ttuune

Charlie Kirk @charliekirk11
If you are in Nevada, please "cure" your vote. Don't depend on an election official notifying you. Please take the initiative and make sure your ballot doesn't have any errors that need fixing.

Possible the Senate may hang in the balance.

https://tinyurl.com/2hadr4p2

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 01:29 PM (yHsuS)

433 So it’s down to Georgia again?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 12, 2022 01:29 PM (u73oe)

434 I'll add, as an aside, the two most confused folks there were spooks.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2022 01:16 PM (O8Vti)
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This conforms to my experience.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at November 12, 2022 01:30 PM (Dc2NZ)

435 So it’s down to Georgia again?
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Well there are probably still some souls to steal. Or at least some votes. Whatevs. - devil

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2022 01:32 PM (Wy1BU)

436 So it’s down to Georgia again?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 12, 2022 01:29 PM (u73oe)

Not really. GOP will be in the minority again in the Senate. I'm sure the GA Republican voters want a (R) in the Senate but it doesn't mean anything nationally.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2022 01:32 PM (qH6FZ)

437 Tasers?
Posted by: Reuben Hick

Good call.

A bb gun. Toss the gun and dump the carton of bb’s all over the floor.

Posted by: Rex B at November 12, 2022 01:14 PM (UUBIv)

Can I have 10,000 marbles, please?

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 01:32 PM (yHsuS)

438 Can I have 10,000 marbles, please?
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 01:32 PM (yHsuS)

Will you settle for some pea sized ball bearings? I may have a few.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2022 01:34 PM (Wy1BU)

439 So encouraging thing, Rs won the majority of votes by a healthy margin.

Discouraging things, this is mostly due to decreased D turnout, R nationwide turnout is reasonably comparable to 2018, a mild increase over 4 years which you'd expect.

Also discouraging is that Rs have traditionally been able to win the House of Representatives with a small loss in the national total vote. R+5 should be a red wave election normally. Between fraud and the distribution of voters, this isn't easy to fix by just getting more votes.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 12, 2022 01:34 PM (eYoxG)

440 Arnold Schwarzenegger handing out hotdogs and coffee to vets. What a special guy.

I'd drive 20 miles to get a hotdog and coffee from Arnold.
Posted by: Dr. Bone
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At the VA, a week ago, I received, for the second time, a very nice 12 oz. bag of 'Joe Muggs' coffee. That program is promoted by Books a Million, and has distributed 10's of thousands of bags of coffee to troops everywhere.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2022 01:38 PM (j2XJk)

441 That needs to be done.
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Here's Ballotpedia that also includes nomination battles for 2022 but I don't know about a straightforward list...
https://tinyurl.com/ycxj23a7

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 12, 2022 01:38 PM (yikp0)

442 "Also discouraging is that Rs have traditionally been able to win the House of Representatives with a small loss in the national total vote. R+5 should be a red wave election normally. Between fraud and the distribution of voters, this isn't easy to fix by just getting more votes."
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 12, 2022 01:34 PM (eYoxG)

There are a few conservatives that see the problem and are calling for the GOP to change course. We need to play by the new rules, we have to set up a ballot harvesting machine to counter the (D)'s. We aren't in a position to change the laws so we have to adapt.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2022 01:39 PM (qH6FZ)

443 Will you settle for some pea sized ball bearings? I may have a few.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2022 01:34 PM (Wy1BU)

That's do.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 01:40 PM (yHsuS)

444 Any republican senator who supports Mitch for minority leader is dead to me.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 12, 2022 01:40 PM (u73oe)

445 A developing report.
Arizona Ballots Make Stop at Runbeck Printing Company to Sort Ballots Before They Are Sent to County — WITH NO OBSERVERS

Ben Bergquam was outside the Maricopa County election center and followed a Penske truck leave the center and return to Runbeck. Once at Runbeck, the gate is closed.

Chain of custody violation.
Story at Gateway Pundit.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, thanks vets at November 12, 2022 01:17 PM (jTmQV)

Is this really happening?!!! I trust Dave in Fla's math, but I don't trust those counting the votes.

Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at November 12, 2022 01:41 PM (bfyic)

446 There are a few conservatives that see the problem and are calling for the GOP to change course. We need to play by the new rules, we have to set up a ballot harvesting machine to counter the (D)'s. We aren't in a position to change the laws so we have to adapt.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2022 01:39 PM (qH6FZ)

They *may* try, if they get their guy. If it is an unnamed big meanie, then I don't expect them to lift a finger.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 01:41 PM (yHsuS)

447 This sounds like ITA (Initial Teaching Alphabet, but we kids pronounced it IT-ah just to piss the teacher off).

-
Simple? You bet it is!

https://bit.ly/3hCgrUN

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2022 01:42 PM (FVME7)

448 I still contend mail voting = fraud. No one can be verifying signatures except when it's in California and recalling Gruesome to the tune of 170,000 ballots tossed out. Am wondering how many Pa mail votes were tossed out.

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2022 01:42 PM (xhxe8)

449 That'll do.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 01:40 PM (yHsuS)

FIFM.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 01:42 PM (yHsuS)

450 #441 Update: This at MSN sort of has info too but then starts discussing 'competitive' and not 'all in total' that I briefly scanned through.
https://tinyurl.com/2s3c735e

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 12, 2022 01:43 PM (yikp0)

451 Is this really happening?!!! I trust Dave in Fla's math, but I don't trust those counting the votes.

Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at November 12, 2022 01:41 PM (bfyic)

I hope it's not. I don't put much faith in hope.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 01:44 PM (yHsuS)

452 423 Looks like neither Masters or Laxalt from NV are gonna throw in the towel... Good for them.. I'd fight it
Posted by: It's me donna at November 12, 2022 01:17 PM (bs+z0)
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Do you have a link about Masters not conceding.
Bing has embargoed any fresh info.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 12, 2022 01:44 PM (iEXgF)

453 Hmmm, do I read through the early morning Dave thread or no? Can my blood pressure stand it?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 12, 2022 01:44 PM (u73oe)

454 I've been teaching my grandkids phonics to spite the teachers. They won't have to teach them to read, just give them a book.

Posted by: Reforger at November 12, 2022 01:46 PM (leNkE)

455 Is this really happening?!!! I trust Dave in Fla's math, but I don't trust those counting the votes.
Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at November 12, 2022 01:41 PM (bfyic)
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Lake says she has eyes on the ballots 24/7.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 12, 2022 01:47 PM (iEXgF)

456 Experts ??
Well hopefully not someone like Trump who was advocating for drinking bleach or a UV. Light up your ass
To say nothing of hydroclorquine or the Ivermectin "cures"
Mistakes in science are made. unlikelike political or religious dogma,mistakes are recognized and corrected.
Wasn't Trump Faucis boss? Wasn't zyrump the one who told us in Feb that it was all under control? Something that was manifestly untrue? 1 million Americans died, with the highest per Capita death rates occuring in red states that tended to have lower masking and vaccination rates. Any figures estimating what proportion of the dead were GOP voters?

Posted by: Paul at November 12, 2022 01:47 PM (U/bJg)

457 KT has there been any talk of a central California meet up?

Today I learned we have pharmaceuticals in common--and my name begins with a K. :-)

Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2022 01:48 PM (Q47Lc)

458 Update: This at MSN sort of has info too but then starts discussing 'competitive' and not 'all in total' that I briefly scanned through.
https://tinyurl.com/2s3c735e

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 12, 2022 01:43 PM (yikp0)

It seems to have some of the info people were looking for when questioning the endorsement record. "How competitive were these races?"

A quick scan synopsis is good to great effect (detractors will decrement that to no-fair) from endorsements, but it was not a silver bullet, like it appears McFailure working against endorsed candidates was.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 01:49 PM (yHsuS)

459 Oh good, the expert retard is here.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 01:50 PM (yHsuS)

460 NewsWire @NewsWire_US · 5h
TOP GOP DONORS TO MEET IN MIAMI IN PLOT TO STOP TRUMP: SPECTATOR

From the Australian issue of the UK Spectator [leftist source delighting in PDT's downfall]...

||Everybody hates Donald?
An emergency gathering is set to be held in Miami next week to talk about “the Trump problem,” a source tells Cockburn. Steve Wynn and other big-shot GOP donors are said to want to “move on from Trump,” so are coming together to decide how to keep him from securing the 2024 nomination. The former president has been said to be in a “terrible mood” and “throwing regular tantrums” after the failure of his chosen candidates in the midterms.||
https://tinyurl.com/3nmxue44

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 12, 2022 01:50 PM (yikp0)

461 Lake says she has eyes on the ballots 24/7.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 12, 2022 01:47 PM (iEXgF)

That report seems to suggest that they've found a way around that. Dunno.

We'll know when Hobbs tell us the votes she counted indicates that she won.

/s

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 01:52 PM (yHsuS)

462 Paul joins the GOP and HQ NeverTrumper movement.

Thank you for your endorsement, Paul, and congratulations on your slight improvement in spelling/typing.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 12, 2022 01:54 PM (yikp0)

463 Why do I get the feeling the same people trying to figure out how to move on from Trump are the same people that told us to move on from the 2020 "election".

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2022 01:55 PM (qH6FZ)

464 Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 12, 2022 01:50 PM (yikp0)

ahhh...the feckless GOPe brain trust doing what it knows best: engineering Republican losses!

they keep Trump from getting the nom, Trump runs third party...

with Tulsi as his running mate

Posted by: kallisto at November 12, 2022 01:57 PM (dCxaZ)

465 The former president has been said to be in a “terrible mood” and “throwing regular tantrums” after the failure of his chosen candidates in the midterms.

He's a type A, right?
He scored a 93.1.
That's a B, right?

So all of the the wanna bees make fun to hide their shame.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 12, 2022 01:58 PM (iEXgF)

466 with Tulsi as his running mate
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That would be hilarious, winning the General with disaffected GOP and Dim votes and first-timers for the "eff them all" vote!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) cancel your NY Post at November 12, 2022 01:59 PM (yikp0)

467 Just a little reminder:

https://tinyurl.com/ycx8mncv

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 12, 2022 02:02 PM (kjRdY)

468 Anyone following the SBF/FTX stuff? Some pretty shady stuff there.

Jordan Shactel and others have been dumpster diving.

https://tinyurl.com/4t5ryhvp

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 02:02 PM (yHsuS)

469

I traded my ballot for a picture of a monkey getting a handy!

Posted by: Low Functioning Retard Who Eats His Scabs at November 12, 2022 02:02 PM (TcQeK)

470 More than halfway through podcast, another wrench in the voting gears is the ten Million illegals.
Just got driving license renewed and could have changed party, registered voting.

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2022 02:03 PM (xhxe8)

471 Sunshine …on Paul’s taint makes him happy!

The thought of uv light in people’s airways makes him cry

Posted by: Rex B at November 12, 2022 02:03 PM (yqwEa)

472 Why do I get the feeling the same people trying to figure out how to move on from Trump are the same people that told us to move on from the 2020 "election".

Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2022 01:55 PM (qH6FZ)

The people cheering getting rid of Bush, Clinton, and now Cheney turdstreams: Hmmm. Maybe Jeb! wasn't so bad after all.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 02:04 PM (yHsuS)

473 The thought of uv light in people’s airways makes him cry

Posted by: Rex B at November 12, 2022 02:03 PM (yqwEa)

He's just bitter he sold his vote for a bill of goods in the form of empty student loan payment promises.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 12, 2022 02:10 PM (yHsuS)

474 But the media is calling it, not because they know anything anyone else doesn't.
Posted by: BurtTC

I predicted this early on in this very thread.

They understand that once the media calls a race, no one wants to fight it lest they become an election "denier."

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 02:15 PM (mR6Gs)

475 Too many people are still insulated from the economic problems. They can still afford their phone and Starbucks and if they need some extra drachma, well mom and dad will help out if the spawn whine enough. .
This economy is only hurting the poor, the working class and the middle class. Just the way the commies intended.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2022 12:59 PM (Wy1BU)
This makes me sad--not only because I'm one of the one's struggling--because it illustrates that people just don't give a shit that people, their own kind of people, perhaps their very kin, are hurting. And it's not that not voting the way they do would HURT them economically---they would have still more money if they voted their pure economic self-interest. But it's those Goddamned "social issues" they cling to just to feel superior to they less fortunate.
It's something that i think is going to be with us for awhile because it's that very group--the upper middle class and the rich-- who are the types in position of influence that COULD get the ball-rolling. But as long as they --and little Ethan and Emily---are doing ok..

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 02:29 PM (mR6Gs)

476 Northwestern has Schumacher 12v, 50/10/2 amp automatic battery charger/jump starter
$80 with a $10 off coupon makes it $70.

Not bad for a jump start.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 12, 2022 02:30 PM (iEXgF)

477 In breaking news, CNN has apparently determined that the Lottery is racist.

https://tinyurl.com/32zn9dat

(Zip's place)

I guess we need to ban blacks from playing the lottery?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 12, 2022 02:44 PM (1n+EO)

478 When I was in law school and learned the rules concerning expert witnesses, I thought it was ridiculous since, obviously, all experts on a topic would necessarily agree. A little practical experience divested me of that notion.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2022 11:48 AM (FVME7)
______________

How often do Supreme Court Justices all agree?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2022 02:45 PM (YqDXo)

479 To me the Supreme Court is now a political game, the Leftists are idiots yet just vote on the party line

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 12, 2022 02:52 PM (xhxe8)

480 In breaking news, CNN has apparently determined that the Lottery is racist.

It never ends.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2022 02:52 PM (Xrfse)

481 445 developing report.
Arizona Ballots Make Stop at Runbeck Printing Company to Sort Ballots Before They Are Sent to County — WITH NO OBSERVERS

Ben Bergquam was outside the Maricopa County election center and followed a Penske truck leave the center and return to Runbeck. Once at Runbeck, the gate is closed.

Chain of custody violation.
Story at Gateway Pundit.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, thanks vets at November 12, 2022 01:17 PM (jTmQV)

Is this really happening?!!! I trust Dave in Fla's math, but I don't trust those counting the votes.

Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at November 12, 2022 01:41 PM (bfyic)

I don't trust his math at all. He's never right. I said before the election that Republicans won't win the House or the Senate and they'd lose most of the governor's races. That's exactly what happened. Lake will lose. And the democrats will continue to win. It's obvious, and it's been obvious to anyone paying attention. Dave seems like he means well, but he's never right. And he's woefully off in this case. Again.

Posted by: E. A. Blair at November 12, 2022 02:55 PM (4Spql)

482 You can go listen to older podcasts

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 12, 2022 02:59 PM (dNZeK)

483 To me the Supreme Court is now a political game, the Leftists are idiots yet just vote on the party line
Posted by: Skip's phone at November 12, 2022 02:52 PM (xhxe

______________

The point is that Supreme Court Justices are all - well, mostly - experts on the law, and most decisions are 5-4.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2022 03:00 PM (YqDXo)

484 I don't agree there is no cheating going on. It's not everywhere, obviously, but there clearly are problems in a number of states and they seem to be the same states this happens almost every election now.

Early voting, ballot harvesting, broken election machines that require mass adjudication and on and on. And all of these irregular voting issues always favor Democrats. Every single time.

In AZ everyone knows that the vast majority of Republicans vote on election day. So after the Democrats bank 70 percent of their votes the voting machines just have an oopsie that favors Democrats. Of course. By shear number Republicans did have a bit of a wave yet the election is basically a wash. Sure. Just a bunch of coincidences that favor Democrats. Nothing to see here, election deniers.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2022 03:06 PM (ZLI7S)

485 I think the " Law" knows and can define male and female well use to anyway. Now it's to push Leftism

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 12, 2022 03:08 PM (xhxe8)

486 It never ends. None of these adult baby monsters are ever satisfied. Do not give an inch.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 12, 2022 03:09 PM (G/v5P)

487 484. There is plenty of cheating going on. And Ryan, McConnell and McCarthy are willing to turn a blind eye to it . Lindsey too, as he's totally invested in the war with Russia that he has wanted for years

Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 03:10 PM (Zzbjj)

488 Sure. Just a bunch of coincidences that favor Democrats. Nothing to see here, election deniers.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2022 03:06 PM (ZLI7S)

And they use that epithet to shut down discussion.

Also, everyone says we need to "move on" from Trump, but what if we do and the same thing happens in 2024?
Then what? What will the excuse be?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 03:13 PM (mR6Gs)

489 464 and we get a dem president again. Y’all. I am just back to feeling that knot in my stomach. While politicians play eleventy dimensional chess, I am trying to run a business that won’t make it if the economy gets worse. People aren’t going to choose a workout class over eating, even if what I offer is amazing (which it truly is, mentally and physically). It isn’t up this crowd to decide who runs or who represents us- that is our job. Or it was.

We aren’t seeing the cheat as blatant as 2020, but holy cow, there is shenanigans happening and what can we do? Our feckless courts won’t do jack taco. If we can’t elect our way out of this disaster, we better figure something out right quick.

Posted by: Piper at November 12, 2022 03:14 PM (ZdaMQ)

490 There is plenty of cheating going on. And Ryan, McConnell and McCarthy are willing to turn a blind eye to it . Lindsey too, as he's totally invested in the war with Russia that he has wanted for years
Posted by: CN at November 12, 2022 03:10 PM (Zzbjj)

Cheating is baked into the cake and no one who is any kind of position to do anything about it really gives a shit.
They like things as-is.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 03:15 PM (mR6Gs)

491 >>Cheating is baked into the cake and no one who is any kind of position to do anything about it really gives a shit.
They like things as-is.

Harmeet Dhillon, one of the best conservative lawyers we have, has a team of lawyers monitoring the AZ count. They aren't doing that because they think the election is on the level.

I don't know why some on our side are so willing to just go along with the left and insist all the elections are on the level when we can see this happening right in front of our eyes.

Why does it take longer to count votes in Arizona than it does in 3rd world shit holes?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2022 03:17 PM (ZLI7S)

492 I have no doubt the uniparty conspired to get rid of MAGA candidates

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 12, 2022 03:18 PM (xhxe8)

493 492 I have no doubt the uniparty conspired to get rid of MAGA candidates
Posted by: Skip's phone at November 12, 2022 03:18 PM (xhxe

Media now going after Ron DeSantis WIFE... saying SHE is the power behind the throne, and wants to take over the country.

Funny, when it was Hillary that was AOK Joe!

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2022 03:26 PM (oHd/0)

494 Yes, Aldi and Trader Joe's are owned privately by the German brothers. One was kidnapped and ransomed in the 1970s, and they are intensely private. If you call Trader Joe's HQ and say you are doing a story, you'll get routed to a pleasant gal who will tell you she is indeed the person you want. Then she'll ask to go off the record, briefly. You agree, and she will say, "Trader Joe's will not cooperate in any way with your story. Have a pleasant day."

There is not just one US Aldi company. Because privately held corporations above a certain size must report some data publicly, they make sure each Aldi company stays under that size. So there are more than a dozen Aldi companies. As they add stores, they create more regional companies.

Posted by: Gordon Scott at November 12, 2022 03:31 PM (v4joD)

495 >>Media now going after Ron DeSantis WIFE... saying SHE is the power behind the throne, and wants to take over the country.

>>Funny, when it was Hillary that was AOK Joe!

Anyone who thinks if we just move on from Trump and hand the nomination to DeSantis the drama will go away is delusional. They will go after DeSantis as relentlessly as they did Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2022 03:32 PM (ZLI7S)

496 I don't know why some on our side are so willing to just go along with the left and insist all the elections are on the level when we can see this happening right in front of our eyes.
=
If you mean "on our side", that answers itself.

If you mean genuinely on our side and mostly in agreement, it's because
1) Acknowledging the cheat is already socially unpopular in their circle for any number of reasons, a prime one being they just don't want to call out Democrats or supporters they know as being cheating, lying, untrustworthy scum,
2) Acknowledging the cheat distracts from their pet issue, which is always the one thing we disagree about that they think we should change, or
3) Acknowledging that the cheat is as deep as some of us believe it is means the ballot box is lost and it's time to move to the last box, and they're just never going to make that step psychologically.

Posted by: Methos at November 12, 2022 03:38 PM (kOpft)

497 Anyone who thinks if we just move on from Trump and hand the nomination to DeSantis the drama will go away is delusional. They will go after DeSantis as relentlessly as they did Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2022 03:32 PM (ZLI7S)

Remember these are the people who said Mitt Romney--I know, Fuck Him, but I'm making a point---gave a woman cancer.

They'll try to destroy ANY Republican. from the mildest milquetoast to the most mega MAGA

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 03:38 PM (mR6Gs)

498 Anyone who thinks if we just move on from Trump and hand the nomination to DeSantis the drama will go away is delusional. They will go after DeSantis as relentlessly as they did Trump.
=
And Youngkin. And DeWine. And Pence.

It's like everyone completely forgot how Reagan, the Bushes, McCain, and Romney were treated right up to the point they were no longer in the way of absolute progressive power.

Posted by: Methos at November 12, 2022 03:41 PM (kOpft)

499 I don't know why some on our side are so willing to just go along with the left and insist all the elections are on the level when we can see this happening right in front of our eyes.

Either fear of the scripted backlash, or they truly have given up. Or both.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2022 03:43 PM (Xrfse)

500 I have no doubt the uniparty conspired to get rid of MAGA candidates
Posted by: Skip's phone at November 12, 2022 03:18 PM (xhxe

Absolutely.

No way they want to see Trump taking a victory lap and using at as a springboard to launch 2024---and in no way am I excusing Trump's at times bombastic buffoonery , beginning with his announcing a BIG ANNOUNCEMENT designed to take that victory lap and use it as a springboard for 2024 on what he thought ( most of us did) would be a Red Wave

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 03:44 PM (mR6Gs)

501 I don't know why some on our side are so willing to just go along with the left and insist all the elections are on the level when we can see this happening right in front of our eyes.

Either fear of the scripted backlash, or they truly have given up. Or both.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2022 03:43 PM (Xrfse)

The next step is for some to just say, fuck it, and join the other side officially.
No one wants to back a perennial loser.

Except Mets fans

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 03:46 PM (mR6Gs)

502 KT, in the 70s (?) and 80s, late night TV was inundated with "hooked on phonics" adds. I looked into it at the time and some districts (esp CA) had already gone to "whole language" methods and kids were suffering. So many that parents were looking for remedial solutions and buying these products to help their kids.
It should have been obvious to anyone with a TV that there was a problem. Further, any new approach should have been tested and studied. It is easy enough to to in a school, but it wasn't, or if it was the "science" was crap. Don't blame the parents for not speaking out.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 12, 2022 03:49 PM (cDoVy)

503 >>No way they want to see Trump taking a victory lap and using at as a springboard to launch 2024---and in no way am I excusing Trump's at times bombastic buffoonery , beginning with his announcing a BIG ANNOUNCEMENT designed to take that victory lap and use it as a springboard for 2024 on what he thought ( most of us did) would be a Red Wave

I see it slightly differently. Trump spent his first term fighting his own GOP establishment as much as the left. I believe he wanted to add more people in Congress who supported his and our agenda. The fact that worked to help his electoral prospects was a not the main focus but it certainly would help.

It's absurd some are blaming Trump for the election results when they cheered on the America First candidate Trump pushed over the establishment candidates. It wasn't Trump who took $9 million from Masters in AZ and gave it to Murkowski to defeat a Trump endorsed candidate. That was Mitch. And McCarthy has been no better.

We have two opponents, Democrats and the Republican establishment. I'm not throwing in with either of them. And if you don't think all of this anti-Trump stuff is being generated by the establishment watch and see.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2022 03:53 PM (ZLI7S)

504 Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 12, 2022 03:49 PM

The maddening thing is that scientific studies had already been done and were rejected by the educators who kept the bad programs.

The parents who did not speak out (to whom I was referring) are those who learned that the bad programs had already been evaluated and were known to be bad, supplemented teaching for their children, but did not suggest similar supplementation for other children in school. Even worse for teachers to do that.

Posted by: KT at November 12, 2022 04:19 PM (rrtZS)

505 Great content and deep diving into the learning to read transcripts. Looking at this due to how fabulous(/s) Michigan did during lockdown I. The schools for a family member living in that state’s kid. Great information and always learn so much here.
Thank each and everyone of you for debate, knowledge, suggestions and laughter. You guys are the best.

Posted by: Jh at November 12, 2022 04:41 PM (ny1NG)

506 Dallas B-17 mid-air collision and crash moments ago.

https://tinyurl.com/mtah39ed

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 12, 2022 04:44 PM (1n+EO)

507 Dallas B-17 mid-air collision and crash moments ago.

Tragic, to say the least. Prayers up for all involved.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2022 04:57 PM (Xrfse)

508 Love Rodin. Found a museum with a ton of his plaster casts and bronzes somewhere along the Columbia river in Washington. The Thinker and The Kiss are there. Beautiful.

Posted by: dartist at November 12, 2022 04:59 PM (9X/y4)

509 Dallas B-17 mid-air collision and crash moments ago.

Tragic, to say the least. Prayers up for all involved.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2022 04:57 PM (Xrfse)

Terrible

Posted by: JoeF. at November 12, 2022 05:20 PM (mR6Gs)

510 Crash footage

https://ytube.io/3Y70

It looks like the Aircobra driver just dumbassed himself and several others into the grave.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 12, 2022 05:34 PM (6VKyY)

511 Yep, the Aircobra driver's clearly at fault. Damn, what a mess. Prayers out to the families of those killed.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 12, 2022 05:49 PM (ZSK0i)

512 What a waste. RIP

Looked like a page from that Sonderkommando group.

Posted by: Rex B at November 12, 2022 05:52 PM (zpJdl)

513 Sonderkommando “Elbe” to be specific.

Posted by: Rex B at November 12, 2022 05:54 PM (zpJdl)

514
Ibram X. Kendi

Ibram X. Kendi is the Bo Catlett of "racial scholars".

Watch "Get Shorty" and you'll understand what I am implying.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 12, 2022 05:54 PM (pNxlR)

515 Eyepatch McCain on the "'Conservative' Climate Caucus" as COP27 pushing more "green" energy nonsense. What a shock. Anything short of calling out the entire "green" energy and "climate change" movement as absolute bullshit is not conservative.

By the way, we know that President Trump pushed to end the ridiculous "climate change" regulations put in place by Obama. And then the Obama people reinstated them during Obama's third term starting in January 2021. Where does DeSantis stand on the WEF's "climate change" hoax and scam?

At the panel featuring members of the "Conservative Climate Caucus," four Republican members of Congress participated in a discussion as part of the UN's "Decarbonization Day." These were Rep. John Curtis of Utah, Rep. Garrett Graves of Louisiana, Rep. Dan Crenshaw of Texas, and Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks of Iowa.

http://bit.ly/3WZOKVU

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 12, 2022 05:58 PM (Do5/p)

516
Anyone remember an old, old transmission repair commercial that shows a sleazy operator on the phone saying "Don't worry, our expert mechanics are working on it." In the background, a squad of chimpanzees in mechanic coveralls are beating on a transmission with bats.

I think that's the level of maliciously fake expertise in public life now.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 12, 2022 06:31 PM (qOuMB)

517 KT, I am stuck on that phonics subject. (no need to respond, and I will assume no one will even see this.)

1. This is not a problem for most wealthy who can afford the remedial help for the kids that don't figure it out on their own. It is also not a problem for many very lower class since they will not take SATs, go to college, get jobs that require reading comprehension. It is a problem for the aspiring classes - those that want better for their kids. How is this not just another artificial hurdle created by the ruling class.

2. The one kid's father hinted at this (or was it the "other mother") the kids are learning to fake. They get a gold star if they are good fakers. This is the key to success in this new hell-ocracy we have entered. Fake being a boy, fake being competent, fake knowing the science,...

3. Now do math. Same problem, but worse since most teachers are at least literate but most are math-illiterate and they try to teach everything the hard way.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 12, 2022 08:16 PM (cDoVy)

518 Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 12, 2022 08:16 PM

1. I think it is a problem for all classes except maybe the wealthy who can tailor help to individual kids, because people who can't read at all are a drag on society and they cause problems when they drop out of school.

I think the reason more kids from families at or near the top figure it out by themselves is that parents read to their kids (and with their kids). That seems to be the biggest predictor of success. Parents in Nordic countries do this with their little ones, sometimes in multiple languages.

It bothers me that dialogue between parents, teachers and administrators seems so rigid, superficial and stupid. And I think it's awful that schools hide the kids' lack of proficiency from parents. See: Baltimore

Posted by: KT at November 12, 2022 09:33 PM (rrtZS)

519 Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 12, 2022 08:16 PM

2. "The one kid's father hinted at this (or was it the "other mother") the kids are learning to fake. They get a gold star if they are good fakers. This is the key to success in this new hell-ocracy we have entered. Fake being a boy, fake being competent, fake knowing the science,..."

This is an extremely important point. And as I recall, it was mentioned that this sets kids up to misread words even after they are beyond the "beginning reader" stage. Maybe even for a lifetime.

Posted by: KT at November 12, 2022 09:59 PM (rrtZS)

520 Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 12, 2022 08:16 PM

3. "Now do math. Same problem, but worse since most teachers are at least literate but most are math-illiterate and they try to teach everything the hard way."

Even if the teacher was math-literate in school, he or she may not be math-literate according to the newest teaching method being pushed by the school district. Same goes for parents.

Math teaching methods seem to change more frequently than with reading. I think this is schools of education feathering their nests. Teachers are required to take continuing ed. classes in the new methods.

One thing I noticed substitute teaching at the high school level several years ago was that the English textbooks were so dumbed down it almost made you cry. Meanwhile, the vocabulary in the standard (not advanced) math textbooks was so specialized and unfamiliar that I had to look up how problems were done in the teacher's manual to figure out what the words meant.

I think the new "ethnic math" probably echoes your "fake" point (#2). Correct answers are not considered to be important for minority kids.

Posted by: KT at November 12, 2022 10:13 PM (rrtZS)

521 Sunny at November 12, 2022 01:48 PM

Hey! Some common background! Haven't heard anything about a meet-up for a while.

Posted by: KT at November 12, 2022 10:37 PM (rrtZS)

522 KT,

Just acknowledging I read your replies. Thanks for the dialog. (And as always, thanks for posts.)

I am listening to the podcast as I do other stuff - If I hear another adult female teacher with a vocal fry I think I will scream.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 12, 2022 10:51 PM (cDoVy)

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