Thread before the Gardening Thread, November 5

"The Major" is the largest free-flying flag and is hung each year in Coldwater Canyon in North Ogden for nearly two weeks at the beginning of November. It honors the late mayor of North Ogden who was killed while serving his country.

Hiking routes to this flag (and links to hiking routes to other flags flown over other canyons) are described at the link above. Looks like it has been a dry summer in the mountains.

There is still a little open land in the valley. This was not too many generations ago:

First Camp of the Survey of Ogden Utah 1874
National Archives

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It appears that George Washington did not have a crew like the one above when he was surveying land.

In the Northern Neck of Virginia, the extensive region between the Rappahannock and Potomac Rivers, land matters were governed by the Proprietor, Lord Fairfax, and his Virginia representative and first cousin, William Fairfax, through the Northern Neck Proprietary Office. In 1649 King Charles II of England had deeded five million acres lying between the rivers to a group of loyal supporters, including the Fairfax family. Through death and marriage the land was consolidated under one man, Thomas, Lord Fairfax, who established his seat at Belvoir, approximately four miles upstream from Mount Vernon. Later, he moved west of the Blue Ridge Mountains to Greenway Court in Frederick (now Clarke) County, Virginia.
Prospective settlers in the Northern Neck were required to obtain a survey warrant from the Northern Neck Proprietary Office for a set amount of acreage in a specific location. . .

. . . Because they were responsible for laying out the land claims, surveyors had a unique role in Virginia society. Their appointments guaranteed a certain social prominence, since nearly all parties interested in gaining title to an area of land were required to deal with the surveyor. Surveyors were also among the best-educated Virginians and were often in the best position to purchase land for themselves. It was not unusual for surveyors to acquire large estates from the many opportunities they had to patent land in their own names. Additionally, their intimate knowledge of the land and official capacity as representatives of large land holders such as the Fairfaxes made their participation politically and practically essential to large land companies such as the Loyal Land Company of Virginia, the Ohio Company, and the Mississippi Land Company.
In July 1749, at seventeen years of age and largely through the Fairfax influence that he had cultivated, Washington secured an appointment as county surveyor for the newly created frontier county of Culpeper, where he served until November 1750. He then continued to work in the Northern Neck with the permission of the Fairfax family from November 1750 to November 1752. During his three years on the frontier he established a reputation for fairness, honesty, and dependability, while earning a very decent living. Philander Chase, the current editor of the Washington Papers at the University of Virginia, writes that frontier surveyors "could earn an annual cash income that was exceeded only by the colony's finest trial lawyers."

He was seventeen years old when he began surveying.

George Washington Memorial Parkway near Belle Haven

The French and Indian War
Washington's decisive involvement in the French and Indian War, in which he served as lieutenant colonel of the newly formed Virginia Regiment, was due in part to the backcountry knowledge and map-making skills he had gained from surveying. In 1753, one year before Lieutenant Governor Dinwiddie called for additional troops under Washington's command to defend Virginia's Ohio Valley frontier, Washington was chosen to deliver an ultimatum to the French at Fort Le Boeuf (site of present-day Waterford, Pennsylvania), insisting that they withdraw from the valley. When his report of this venture, The Journal of Major George Washington, was printed in Williamsburg and then reprinted in London, it catapulted him onto the world stage.
Although an engraved map was issued with the London edition of his journal, Washington prepared a sketch map of his journey to accompany the original publication. There are three known manuscript versions of this historically important map, two housed in the British Public Record Office and one in a private collection. Although older published maps were available to British colonial interests, this sketch map alone represents the state of geographical knowledge at the outbreak of the war. Together with Washington's report, the map dramatically illustrates the French threat in the Ohio Valley. It also contains one of the first references to the construction of a strategic fort at the junction of the Monongahela and Allegheny Rivers, the site of present-day Pittsburgh. Washington's role in beginning the French and Indian War seems to have been inescapable. He not only volunteered to deliver the message to the French authorities but produced a propaganda map highlighting the French threat and ambushed a French detachment in the war's first skirmish in 1754.

Keeping track of Gavin Newsom

Imagine a male Nancy Pelosi in the White House! As rumblings of discontent with Biden and Harris increase among Democrats and their favored press, who else is looking toward the White House in '24?

Since I am in California, I have sort of been trying to keep track of the new things Newsom has been doing as he prepares for a presidential run. This seems to be the latest. There are some other California news briefs at the link, too.

Gov. Gavin Newsom's surprise Thursday announcement -- that he's withholding $1 billion in state homelessness funding until local governments and service providers come up with more ambitious plans to reduce the number of people living on the streets -- seems to serve as an implicit reminder to Californians that he isn't the only one responsible for the state's ballooning homeless population, which grew by at least 22,500 during the pandemic.
Newsom said the local plans would reduce street homelessness by just 2% statewide by 2024 -- a figure that is "simply unacceptable." He also slammed some regions for estimating their homeless populations would grow by double digits in four years, and said he plans to meet with local leaders in mid-November to review the state's approach to homelessness and identify more effective strategies.

. . in an interview with the Los Angeles Times: "Deliver damn results. . . . It's a crisis. Act like it. Everybody step up. I'm not the mayor. You want me to come in? I'll do the job. I'll do it. Happily. I've been going into cities cleaning up encampments. Has anyone gotten the hint? If someone did that to me when I was mayor, I'd be like, 'OK, I got it.'"
Having heard the hint loud and clear, many of the mayors of California's largest cities are pushing back. . .

Maybe the mayors should do what Newsom did when he was Mayor of San Francisco: give the homeless bus tickets out of the city!

That would be easier than dealing with problems like this:

The mayors also argued that their ability to address homelessness is constrained by a lack of ongoing state funding. Some have been calling on the state for years to create a multibillion-dollar permanent funding stream for homelessness, and have thrown their support behind Proposition 27 -- a ballot measure that would legalize online sports betting and direct a sizable portion of tax revenue to homelessness and mental health services -- for that reason. Newsom announced last week that he opposes Prop. 27.
Graham Knaus, executive director of the California State Association of Counties, also called on the state to create a permanent funding stream to address homelessness. California's 58 counties are tasked with implementing Newsom's ambitious and controversial plan to force more people with severe mental illness into housing and treatment -- even as questions abound as to whether the state has enough housing for the program to work.
. . . Liccardo told Manuela that California's big city mayors plan to ask the state for more land on which to build homeless housing, to streamline the construction process and protect projects from lawsuits, and exempt more developments from CEQA -- the state's marquee and much-bemoaned environmental review law.

Government creates problems, then it has to fix them with more government!

Weekend Story Time

This week, I ran across some actual adult people on social media who actually believe that if Republicans take over Congress in the upcoming election, the country is in dire danger of the rapid spread of authoritarian fascism.

So I thought it might be interesting to imagine invading fascist "Maga" Republicans in Congress leaving Establishment Republicans to occupy Blue States --- sort of like the island in the story below, governed by the world's only feudal lord, faced occupation by Nazi Germany. Some aristocrats were among the German officers, so they related to the ruler of the island on an aristocratic level. Luckily.

Some of the aristocratic establishment Republicans could certainly relate politely with the aristocratic governors of Blue States while maintaining firm control over them. Right?

Dame Sibyl Hathaway had 275 Nazi prisoners on her hands and knew exactly what she wanted to do with them.
It was May 1945. Five years earlier, Germany had invaded Hathaway's home in the British Channel Islands, a tiny isle of 400 called Sark. Despite having no modern defense network or fancy gun emplacements--it didn't even have electricity--Sark had proven itself to be uniquely prepared for its unwelcome visitors. The island had an advantage that the rest of Europe had discarded centuries earlier: feudalism.
The Isle of Sark was the western world's last fief. For 400 years, it had faithfully followed 16th century Norman law, and 61-year-old Dame Sibyl (as her subjects called her) served as their feudal overlord. She once defended the institution of feudalism by saying, "What is good enough for William the Conqueror is good enough for us."

Blue State residents should do fine under Maga occupation with no electricity, too. After all, they are staunch environmentalists!

Now, just one week after Hitler had killed himself, Dame Sibyl walked down a steep, dusty path toward Sark's main harbor to meet the British "liberation." Around her, the island's meadows appeared to bloom in celebration.
The Dame greeted a group of British soldiers and led them to the Nazi's island headquarters to discuss the terms of surrender. As Lieutenant Colonel K. Allen questioned the German Kommandant, Dame Sibyl translated everything into German. When Allen finished his interrogation, he turned to the Dame.
"I can't leave any troops here because so far only a token force has been landed in Guernsey," Allen explained, referring to the island seven miles west of Sark. He was hesitant to continue. "Would you mind being left for a few days, or would you prefer to go to Guernsey with me?"
Dame Sybil fought the urge to roll her eyes. She had been fending off the Nazis without any help from England since the war started. Why would she need help now? "As I have been left for nearly five years," she said, "I can stand a few more days."

With that, the liberation team departed and Dame Sybil regained control over not just her island, but a new legion of German vassals.
You could argue that she had been controlling them the whole time.

She put the German prisoners to work, clearing land mines and such! For more than just a few days. Interesting reading. A shrewd and tough woman. She lost a son in the war, and her husband was removed from the island partway through the occupation. Her island fared better than nearby islands.

Music

How to dance a minuet. From Mount Vernon. One couple dancing alone, while others watch.

The Virginia Reel is livelier.

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, October 29, Training clinical psychologists to be social justice activists and kids to be paranoid wokesters

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:03 AM

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1 No comments yet? Well...

Posted by: BurtTC at November 05, 2022 11:08 AM (NWBBy)

2 St

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 05, 2022 11:08 AM (Q4IgG)

3 Awww, man....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 05, 2022 11:08 AM (Q4IgG)

4 I left SLC for Ogden one late afternoon, took a wrong turn and ended up in Wyoming.

Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2022 11:08 AM (dCxaZ)

5 And I even read much of the content!

Driving through the area around Dinosaur National Monument in 2020, it was interesting to see the Trump signs, with huge American flags flying from some of the ranchers in the area.

Too bad Utah elects Gopes as freely as states further east, they have plenty of good and decent folk.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 05, 2022 11:10 AM (NWBBy)

6 The virginia reel clip reminds me of the scene in GWTW where Rhett purchases a dance with the Widow Hamilton. Except Selznick staged it a lot better.

Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2022 11:11 AM (dCxaZ)

7 So who are theses Republican Senators that are openly talking about cutting SS, according to Bing.

Posted by: Javems at November 05, 2022 11:11 AM (AmoqO)

8 I left SLC for Ogden one late afternoon, took a wrong turn and ended up in Wyoming.
Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2022 11:08 AM (dCxaZ)

Wyoming has plenty of charms. Also elects Gopes though.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 05, 2022 11:11 AM (NWBBy)

9 Some aristocrats were among the German officers, so they related to the ruler of the island on an aristocratic level. Luckily.

It really wasn't the officer corps of the Wehrmacht who were bloody sadistic monsters, that was the province of the Shitzstaffel. (SS).

Generally speaking, of course. also, there were no Jews inhabiting the Channel Islands, so there's that.

Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2022 11:13 AM (dCxaZ)

10 I used to commute between MD and VA daily. My place of employment at the time was in Alexandria, VA. I'd sometimes drive through D.C., sometimes down the GW Parkway, and sometimes other routes that would lead into Alexandria. Some of views were awesome. Probably take a day and a half to do that today.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 05, 2022 11:14 AM (Q4IgG)

11 Wyoming has plenty of charms. Also elects Gopes though.

I was gobsmacked by the preternaturally beautiful color of the sagebrush. Amazing, and irreproducible.

Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2022 11:14 AM (dCxaZ)

12 Wyoming has plenty of charms. Also elects Gopes though.
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I was gobsmacked by the preternaturally beautiful color of the sagebrush. Amazing, and irreproducible.
Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2022 11:14 AM (dCxaZ)

So then, was it a right turn?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 05, 2022 11:19 AM (NWBBy)

13 11 Wyoming has plenty of charms. Also elects Gopes though.

I was gobsmacked by the preternaturally beautiful color of the sagebrush. Amazing, and irreproducible.
Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2022 11:14 AM (dCxaZ)

That sounds nice. Someday I should go there.

Posted by: Liz Cheney at November 05, 2022 11:19 AM (PiwSw)

14 Newsom will definitely run 24.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at November 05, 2022 11:20 AM (3vQN0)

15 Willard Romney's grandpappy is over by the tent shaking down the rest of the pilgrims.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 05, 2022 11:21 AM (geVLo)

16 I wish Republicans would do even half of what Dems accuse the. Spoiler alert: Republicans will do what Biden asks of them.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at November 05, 2022 11:22 AM (3vQN0)

17 Gov. Gavin Newsom's surprise Thursday announcement -- that he's withholding $1 billion in state homelessness funding until local governments and service providers come up with more ambitious plans to reduce the number of people living on the streets ...

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Of all people Newsom should know that massive government funds plowed into NGOs to alleviate poverty aren't meant to alleviate poverty. They're meant to (1) make NGO showrunners rich, and (2) ensure that The Big Guys get their 10 percent returned in campaign donations.

See, e.g., Planned Infanticide

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 05, 2022 11:23 AM (Qzn2/)

18 In 2017 with a Republican president ready to sign, the spineless gop wouldn’t even repeal Obamacare, something they had campaigned on for 7 years. But they will eliminate social security, lol.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at November 05, 2022 11:23 AM (3vQN0)

19 Of all people Newsom should know that massive government funds plowed into NGOs to alleviate poverty aren't meant to alleviate poverty. They're meant to (1) make NGO showrunners rich, and (2) ensure that The Big Guys get their 10 percent returned in campaign donations.

See, e.g., Planned Infanticide

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 05, 2022 11:23 AM

Narrator: He does know.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 05, 2022 11:26 AM (Wnv9h)

20 Morning.

Posted by: Robert at November 05, 2022 11:26 AM (7ohtU)

21 Now as long as a Navy A-6 doesnt try to fly under it and catches the cable by accident...

...okay A-6s long gone, but still...

Posted by: JEM at November 05, 2022 11:27 AM (8erNz)

22 15 Willard Romney's grandpappy is over by the tent shaking down the rest of the pilgrims.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 05, 2022 11:21 AM (geVLo)

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I'll bet his side gig was selling guns to the Indians. In other words, a true Romney, through and through.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 05, 2022 11:27 AM (Qzn2/)

23 unusual_whales@unusual_whales
JUST IN: U.S. President Joe Biden has said that the social media platform, Twitter, purchased by Elon Musk, spews lies across the world.

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You got fact checked, Joe, with actual facts, and humiliated so bad you deleted your tweet, you twat.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at November 05, 2022 11:28 AM (FVME7)

24 19 Of all people Newsom should know that massive government funds plowed into NGOs to alleviate poverty aren't meant to alleviate poverty. They're meant to (1) make NGO showrunners rich, and (2) ensure that The Big Guys get their 10 percent returned in campaign donations.

Massive government funds plowed into NGOs to alleviate ANYTHING.

NGOs/QUANGOs are just about the biggest post-WWII scandal extant.

Posted by: JEM at November 05, 2022 11:28 AM (8erNz)

25 I'll bet his side gig was selling guns to the Indians. In other words, a true Romney, through and through.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 05, 2022 11:27 AM

I'm glad the douche left MA. Shame he didn't take Romneycare with him, though.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 05, 2022 11:28 AM (Wnv9h)

26 Oh here you are

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 05, 2022 11:29 AM (5rBf5)

27 That sounds nice. Someday I should go there.

Posted by: Liz Cheney at November 05, 2022 11:19 AM (PiwSw)

SORRY

WY border is closed to DC swamprats

Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2022 11:31 AM (dCxaZ)

28 I was in high school when Christo strung his curtain across Rifle Gap near the town of Rifle. We often fished at Rifle Gap Reservoir. Though the Curtain was a mere 50 miles away, my family and I saw no reason to go see it. It seemed like a giant waste of time by an attention-seeker. No redeeming value.

A flag above the canyon in Ogden is at least a remembrance of an honored citizen and reflects the community. Christo had no connection at all to the locals.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 05, 2022 11:31 AM (kXYt5)

29 Townhall.com@townhallcom
BIDEN ON COAL:
"We're gonna be shutting these plants down all across America, and having wind and solar."

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But not having heat or power.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at November 05, 2022 11:32 AM (FVME7)

30 Townhall.com@townhallcom
BIDEN ON COAL:
"We're gonna be shutting these plants down all across America, and having wind and solar."

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And it will be a really COLD wind too.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 05, 2022 11:33 AM (Qzn2/)

31 Hope everyone here in our neck of the woods is okay.

Posted by: Rasmus at November 05, 2022 11:20 AM (H5TGy)

glad you made it through the tornado

Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2022 11:34 AM (dCxaZ)

32 "..in an interview with the Los Angeles Times: "Deliver damn results. . . . It's a crisis. Act like it."
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Obvious that Newsom can't cuss worth a hell.

Posted by: Javems at November 05, 2022 11:34 AM (AmoqO)

33 BIDEN ON COAL:
"We're gonna be shutting these plants down all across America, and having wind and solar."

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That should really help in Pennsylvania.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 05, 2022 11:35 AM (u73oe)

34 If you truly believed the Climate Change Fable you'd want to shut down the Chi-Coms from burning even more coal. I never hear of that. Why is that?

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 05, 2022 11:35 AM (SJsWC)

35 I thought the Jan 6 hearings were supposed to hit a high crescendo right about now. That and all the "secret" documents Trump was selling to the Russians.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 05, 2022 11:36 AM (BdMk6)

36 The steel mills around Pittsburgh are gonna run on wind power!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 05, 2022 11:36 AM (u73oe)

37 34 If you truly believed the Climate Change Fable you'd want to shut down the Chi-Coms from burning even more coal. I never hear of that. Why is that?
Posted by: Ignoramus at November 05, 2022 11:35 AM (SJsWC)

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To insist would be cultural imperialism. Duh.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 05, 2022 11:37 AM (Qzn2/)

38 I need to stop reading the news and focus on my work. Every once in a while I stumble on to a story that just upsets me so much I really can't handle it.

I don't know if the "facts" are true or "kind-of true" or not but stuff like this is just too much for me:

Florida Couple Loses Custody of Sons After Seeking Diagnosis From Boston Children’s Hospital

Posted by: pawn at November 05, 2022 11:38 AM (wsHtO)

39 It would be interesting to see that flag mounted and retrieved. It's hard to imagine it stays off the ground.

Posted by: Paul Pelosi for Senate at November 05, 2022 11:39 AM (7bQJB)

40 Germany and the EU are about to collapse over energy policy made worse by Ukraine. Hopefully it will wake us up before we sleep walk over a cliff.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 05, 2022 11:40 AM (SJsWC)

41 The jokes on the President, let's see Pres. Biden run the country on "renewables" when we slash solar and wind subsidies by .05%.

Posted by: The GOPe at November 05, 2022 11:40 AM (qH6FZ)

42 Pushback: “I do not consent to your attempt to blacklist me.”

https://tinyurl.com/mryb8j5w

Via Insty.

It's a decent example of how to gently pushback against cancel culture while being a reminder that the people you think are friends sometimes aren't.

Posted by: Robert at November 05, 2022 11:40 AM (EUKdE)

43 Hmm, Jan 6th panel has Trump testify on the 14th. Rumors say he's going to announce his 2024 bid on the 14th as well.

Although the thought of him announcing at the committee hearing is somewhat enticing, ultimately it would fall flat. Better to do it at a rally.

Posted by: WisRich at November 05, 2022 11:41 AM (qKfc+)

44 .okay A-6s long gone, but still...
Posted by: JEM

Well, it's big brother, the Growler was still flying until... 8 or 10 years ago?

Posted by: MkY at November 05, 2022 11:42 AM (cPGH3)

45 "WY border is closed to DC swamprats"

Elk out front should have told you.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 05, 2022 11:43 AM (qH6FZ)

46 If you say 'Democracy' enough times, you're granted authority to shut down refineries and coal plants.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 05, 2022 11:44 AM (geVLo)

47 Whoops! Prowler

Posted by: MkY at November 05, 2022 11:44 AM (cPGH3)

48 And Wiki says 2019. Whatever.
Loudest damned jet I have ever heard. You could hear them from the far end of Whidbey.

Posted by: MkY at November 05, 2022 11:46 AM (cPGH3)

49 The steel mills around Pittsburgh are gonna run on wind power!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 05, 2022 11:36 AM (u73oe)

so are the EVs!

Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2022 11:48 AM (dCxaZ)

50 I took a class or two in forest surveying, with the steel tapes, and hand held transits and Philly-rods for checking level. Pretty much the same tools, if improved and figuring Washington used, and to really be interesting, the Romans used to lay out roads and aquaducts with the same sort of equipment, just no compasses.
They were just introducing GPS when I was taking those classes. Now it is all GPS.

The guys can spend more time doing the timber cruises instead . . . with pretty much the same equipment I learned with there, too. Pretty sure they have a laser rig for determining height now too.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 05, 2022 11:48 AM (xhaym)

51 "WY border is closed to DC swamprats"
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Elk out front should have told you.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 05, 2022 11:43 AM (qH6FZ)

Hey, that's my line!

Posted by: Yellowstone Mooses at November 05, 2022 11:48 AM (NWBBy)

52 We are getting some nasty wind this morning. Half of my Bradford pear tree is on the ground. That'll be a weekend clean up once the weather settles down.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 05, 2022 11:49 AM (Wy1BU)

53 I thought the Jan 6 hearings were supposed to hit a high crescendo right about now. That and all the "secret" documents Trump was selling to the Russians.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 05, 2022 11:36 AM

The fib raid on Trump's house failed to produce anything the least bit damaging. In other words, the raid flopped and there was never anything there or the doj would have leaked $hit all over the place.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 05, 2022 11:51 AM (bVYXr)

54 Musk is going nuclear!

Musk threatens "thermonuclear name & shame" of woke advertisers that boycott Twitter

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at November 05, 2022 11:52 AM (FVME7)

55 sort of like the island in the story below, governed by the world's only feudal lord, faced occupation by Nazi Germany.

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Fascinating story

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 05, 2022 11:54 AM (5rBf5)

56 Thank you for the posting about Washington. The one about his work as a surveyor was quite interesting.

Another president who had worked as a surveyor and understood maps was Abraham Lincoln. It helps when a president has had experience of the real world (most Republicans) rather than having limited his life to government (most Democrats).

Posted by: Nemo at November 05, 2022 11:56 AM (S6ArX)

57 The virginia reel clip reminds me of the scene in GWTW where Rhett purchases a dance with the Widow Hamilton. Except Selznick staged it a lot better.
Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2022 11:11 AM (dCxaZ)

Dance was one of the PE options in grade school, I remember doing a lot of Virginia reels. Those folk look like they were having a lot more fun than we were.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 05, 2022 11:57 AM (xhaym)

58 The nazi's actually had a small prison camp on one of the channel islands. Alderney, I think. Something most of the locals refuse to speak about.

Posted by: Old Blue at November 05, 2022 11:58 AM (5tYr3)

59 And now a weekend update from the City of Brotherly Love . . .

"Murder and mayhem all over the town..."
"Spectacular violence..."
"Every crack in the sidewalk is filled with those orange needle caps..."
"Competing with the number of needle caps in the street are now bullet shells..."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at November 05, 2022 11:58 AM (FVME7)

60 Virginia reel? Dancing combined with fishing?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at November 05, 2022 12:00 PM (FVME7)

61 How late do they serve breakfast tacos at the White House beanery?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 05, 2022 12:02 PM (geVLo)

62 The Major

"Fun fact" shown in the article? No, that is not a 'fun fact'. Idiots.

Posted by: t-bird at November 05, 2022 12:02 PM (BOHPk)

63 "I thought the Jan 6 hearings were supposed to hit a high crescendo right about now."

I love how the Democrats got some polling on how the Jan 6th shitshow was doing and basically shut it down. I'd like to think Adam Kinzinger was whining and crying about not doing more and Nancy P. telling him not to be such a pussy.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 05, 2022 12:02 PM (qH6FZ)

64 43 Hmm, Jan 6th panel has Trump testify on the 14th. Rumors say he's going to announce his 2024 bid on the 14th as well.

Although the thought of him announcing at the committee hearing is somewhat enticing, ultimately it would fall flat. Better to do it at a rally.
Posted by: WisRich at November 05, 2022 11:41 AM (qKfc+)

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I have my doubts about that rumor. I don't think Trump would telegraph his announcement. He gets more of an impact if it happens at an unexpected time. On the other hand, what do I know...

Posted by: No One of Consequence at November 05, 2022 12:04 PM (uPgE/)

65 "They're gonna put you all back in chains!"

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at November 05, 2022 12:04 PM (C1rbv)

66 Sir Roger de Coverley > Virginia Reel

Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2022 12:08 PM (KAi1n)

67 Florida Couple Loses Custody of Sons After Seeking Diagnosis From Boston Children’s Hospital
Posted by: pawn

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I can't say much about the specific case, having read the Epoch Times article, but a couple of general observations:

1. Child abuse specialists (physicians) often seem to confirm the old adage that "if you ask a barber what he thinks he will tell you that you need a haircut'. If they are looking for it, they will find it more often than not. It often becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

2. Having a specific confirmed diagnosis (such as Fabry's disease) mitigates pretty strongly against Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy, a diagnosis that gets flung around pretty indiscriminately..

3. Enzyme replacement treatments for rare metabolic conditions are niche treatments and are not cures. They must be administered on an ongoing basis on the order of once every 4-6 weeks and costs can run into the thousands of dollars per dose.

It seems to me that the gastroenterologist got butt-hurt that the doctors in Florida were usurping his prerogative and decided to sic the social workers on the family out of spite. As always though, there may be more to the story.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 05, 2022 12:10 PM (kXYt5)

68 Mysteries of the Abandon had a segment about one of the Channel Islands on which the Gemans had built huge gun emplacements, block houses, and other Nazi stuff at enormous labor and cost. None of the huge guns were ever fired in fear or anger and their ghosts remain there like sets in a post apocalyptic movie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at November 05, 2022 12:10 PM (FVME7)

69 If Warden Newsom was serious about improving Calizuela, he could start by thinning out his pet illegal alien herd (he never will). They drain billions of stolen taxpayer dollars for their care and maintenance.

Like everything the communist do, it's just a lie to get them elected. Then it's back to screwing us.

Posted by: nraendowment at November 05, 2022 12:14 PM (UwUy8)

70 Fetterman is the Northern Neck.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 05, 2022 12:14 PM (63Dwl)

71 Ben Carson Says Biden Has Signs of Dementia

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Signs? They're flashing neon lights ten feet high!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at November 05, 2022 12:15 PM (FVME7)

72 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2022 12:16 PM (T4tVD)

73 vs. the current 1/2 hour of daily malevolence.

https://youtu.be/y31D8vnEyp4?t=256

Posted by: DaveA at November 05, 2022 12:16 PM (FhXTo)

74 I read something to the effect that there is never a month of the year where Wyoming is without snow, somewhere in the state.
Sort of like the Big Island in that regard.

Posted by: gourmand du jour back in the fog at November 05, 2022 12:17 PM (jTmQV)

75 Walker is “incompetent, subliterate and coonish,” Professor Sundiata Cha-Jua, a history and African-American studies professor, wrote in The News-Gazette in his regular column on October 23.

is coonish great than and less than coon on the offensive scale!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 05, 2022 12:18 PM (BRHaw)

76 KT, great info on George Washington, never be another like him. And he had a killer eggnog recipe, too.

Posted by: Eromero at November 05, 2022 12:18 PM (/RDPd)

77 Fantastic WWII tidbit there, KT! I knew the Channel Islands were one of the real interesting odd stories of WWII in Europe, didn't know about Sark.

Mount Vernon was named by its original owner, Washington's relative, in honor of Admiral Edward Vernon of the Royal Navy, a very distinguished officer with a long career whose nickname (Old Grog - for the coats he wore, made of grognam, a material I'm unfamiliar with) was borrowed to become the term for the Royal Navy's rum ration, which originated in his time.

Vernon regularized and reduced the ration, which had been newly instituted, and also was involved with the key innovations of watering down the rum and adding lime or lemon juice, which serendipitously helped reduce scurvy (nutritional basis of which was not understood at the time).

Previous alcohol rations existed in the Royal Navy, but usually used madeira or some fortified wine. Rum had many advantages, including being sourced from British possessions vs. the continental or Portuguese territories, and much greater strength, meaning less space taken on ships.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 05, 2022 12:19 PM (OTzUX)

78 68 Mysteries of the Abandon had a segment about one of the Channel Islands on which the Gemans had built huge gun emplacements, block houses, and other Nazi stuff at enormous labor and cost. None of the huge guns were ever fired in fear or anger and their ghosts remain there like sets in a post apocalyptic movie.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at November 05, 2022 12:10 PM (FVME7)

During my military tour of Germany back in the 70's there were ghost structures of the war everywhere, including the kasernes I was billeted. Some walls were still pock-marked with bullet and bomb shrapnel holes.

And, of course, there were still many of the soldiers and airmen still alive.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 05, 2022 12:20 PM (BdMk6)

79 WB CEO David Zaslav Open to Working With J.K. Rowling on More “Harry Potter” Content

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In her second Robert Galbraith novel, The Silkworm, she has a tranny character who is not presented in a favorable way, more like a pathetic, mentally ill loser.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at November 05, 2022 12:20 PM (FVME7)

80 Walker is “incompetent, subliterate and coonish,” Professor Sundiata Cha-Jua, a history and African-American studies professor, wrote in The News-Gazette in his regular column on October 23.

Wow! Deranged professors and Lincoln Project hate Walker. Is there a better endorsement?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 05, 2022 12:21 PM (eGTCV)

81 Blistering report on cover up of WhuFlu being lab leak:

https://tinyurl.com/yc2ywma2

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 05, 2022 12:23 PM (BRHaw)

82 The Presidio of SF is swarmed with gun emplacements. Fort Funston, same thing.
Never fired in anger.

Posted by: gourmand du jour back in the fog at November 05, 2022 12:23 PM (jTmQV)

83 Wow! Deranged professors and Lincoln Project hate Walker. Is there a better endorsement?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 05, 2022 12:21 PM (eGTCV)

African-American studies professor

You think he studies African Americans in the wild or more of a research lab setting?

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 05, 2022 12:25 PM (BRHaw)

84 Martini Farmer, when I was in town briefly during a break from an overseas guvamint vacation, I stayed at a hotel in Tysons Corner. Called a friend to have dinner, he was near Old Town. He said, nah, not enough time, would take too long for either of us to travel to the other (was rush hour/dinner hour). Tysons Corner, to Old Town. I'd lived in the area previous for decades, couldn't believe it. Don't know how people stand it now.

When childhood CA friend moved there just before I left, they were shocked when I told them, at dinner the night before they went around with their real estate agent house shopping, that the first question to ask was about traffic. They had no idea.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 05, 2022 12:26 PM (OTzUX)

85 Former NBA Star Dwyane Wade’s Ex-Wife Claims He’s Exploiting Their Son, Files Motion to Stop Legal Name Change and Gender Transition Surgery

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You go, girl!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at November 05, 2022 12:28 PM (FVME7)

86 33 how is it possible someone can be so dumb and find himself president? Wind and solar is less than reliable and the environmental impact is great. Ignoring this, where does he think he is going to put all these wind farms? They are ugly, loud, and kill birds at an alarming rate. The NIMBYS will be loud.

Posted by: Piper at November 05, 2022 12:31 PM (ZdaMQ)

87 I guess Sarah's been fired.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 05, 2022 12:31 PM (BdMk6)

88 Cicero, don't forget how these oceans of misspent NGO/social intervention/etc funds support/expand armies of politically useful workers and activists. Of course nearly all of the interventions are futile, or even exacerbate problems or create new ones - but in the process, iron rice bowls are created, and legions of brainwashed are "employed" who otherwise would be figuring out how to do that decorative thing with the foamed milk on a latte.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 05, 2022 12:31 PM (OTzUX)

89 The kind of crude, idiotic racism of the sort spewed by that cretinous "professor" should really be highlighted and publicized by Walker and other candidates. Dem public figures relentlessly hit with the "do you endorse this?" gambit. Every hour of every day.

Offense, not defense, against stupid, malevolent, racist and race-baiting garbage of all skin tones.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 05, 2022 12:36 PM (OTzUX)

90 Walker is “incompetent, subliterate and coonish,” Professor Sundiata Cha-Jua, a history and African-American studies professor, wrote in The News-Gazette in his regular column on October 23.
is coonish great than and less than coon on the offensive scale!
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 05, 2022 12:18 PM (BRHaw)

Hey! At least she didn't break out in song!

O ole Zip Coon he is a larned skoler, O ole Zip Coon he is a larned skolar, O ole Zip Coon he is a larned skolar, Sings possum up a gum tree an coony in a holler...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 05, 2022 12:37 PM (R/m4+)

91 New York Post@nypost
Don Lemon's new show 'CNN This Morning' bombs in debut https://trib.al/0IiYrZg

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Poor baby!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at November 05, 2022 12:38 PM (FVME7)

92 I wonder if Biden's high school guidance counselor told him his career options were failed ambulance chasing lawyer or failed president of the United States

Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 05, 2022 12:39 PM (eGTCV)

93 The author of Julie & Julia died of a heart attack. She was 49.

This is getting very scary.

Posted by: Piper at November 05, 2022 12:39 PM (ZdaMQ)

94 Can't Cobs remove these stupid (and probably criminal) posts, and Banhammer the hash?

fuckers should take that shot to DU. Might find some suckers there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 05, 2022 12:40 PM (8J0DM)

95 rhomboid,

It's been decades since I was in the DC area. I probably wouldn't recognize it anymore. Once upon a time it was cool to be near the capitol city, but about the time Clinton was elected it started to go down hill fast.

My wife's in California, central coast around Monterey were we used to live visiting her daughter. Says the area is a zoo now. Went to the grocery store and was floored by the cost. Dozen eggs were about $10.

I'll take the rural life here in Kentucky any day...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 05, 2022 12:41 PM (Q4IgG)

96 92 New York Post@nypost
Don Lemon's new show 'CNN This Morning' bombs in debut https://trib.al/0IiYrZg

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Poor baby!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022

Sounds like ol' Don will have to suck a lot more dicks to keep his CNN gig.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 05, 2022 12:41 PM (BdMk6)

97 The author of Julie & Julia died of a heart attack. She was 49.

This is getting very scary.
Posted by: Piper at November 05, 2022 12:39 PM (ZdaMQ)

Serves her right. Irony is delicious. Scrunt was quacking about how all of us who refused the clot shot "deserved to die". Clot shot got her.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 05, 2022 12:42 PM (8J0DM)

98 Newsom is mostly an empty suit, a mediocrity just barfed up by his social circle into a politically dead state with some of the dumbest, most robotic tribal voters in America, but he lacks the nasty alien authoritarian edge of many of his contemporaries. Jerry Brown was far more intelligent, but seemed to succumb to a bitter descent into the more extreme versions of his long-held predispositions towards the end. Odd.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 05, 2022 12:42 PM (OTzUX)

99 88 I guess Sarah's been fired.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 05, 2022 12:31 PM (BdMk6)

She got promoted to McDonald's.

Posted by: Robert at November 05, 2022 12:44 PM (2HJJk)

100 99 I didn’t know that piece. I never read the book, saw the movie or her articles leading to it. The concept sounds hysterical. Not sure how the execution played out. I guess I was myopically focused on how many heart attacks are happening right now in younger people and yet still nothing on perhaps these shots aren’t the best idea after all from powers that be.

Posted by: Piper at November 05, 2022 12:46 PM (ZdaMQ)

101 Kim Kardashian makes a good wage working from home.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at November 05, 2022 12:47 PM (FVME7)

102 Morning Hordemates.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2022 12:47 PM (anj39)

103 Nobody talks about the price gouging at the grocery store because ~~Putin's~~ Biden's energy policy is hiking the cost of fuel and fucking with the supply chain. Meanwhile, Bootyjuice has his thumb up his ass.

In other words, another Saturday in Delaware.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 05, 2022 12:48 PM (geVLo)

104 I didn’t know that piece. I never read the book, saw the movie or her articles leading to it. The concept sounds hysterical. Not sure how the execution played out. I guess I was myopically focused on how many heart attacks are happening right now in younger people and yet still nothing on perhaps these shots aren’t the best idea after all from powers that be.

Posted by: Piper at November 05, 2022 12:46 PM (ZdaMQ)

You are right in that the death rate by clot shot is scary. Her case was discussed here several times yesterday. She was on the Twatters denouncing the pure-bloods. Karma is a bitch.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 05, 2022 12:48 PM (8J0DM)

105 Martini Farmer to my tastes the DC area was most livable/interesting in the late 80s up to the mid/late-90s, so about the time frame you give. The blighted parts of town were no-go zones, there wasn't any of the unbelievable re-gentrification, no new baseball stadium, etc., but the NoVA suburbs provided reasonable amounts of "ethnic" eateries and stores, traffic was nothing compared to now, prices were not insane, etc.

Have only once passed through Monterrey area in modern times, a few years back, outwardly didn't seem all that much had changed in decades. I'm sure real estate prices are insane, but visually not too different. Still mostly field crops around Watsonville, Carmel's I assume controlled and looks the same.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 05, 2022 12:48 PM (OTzUX)

106 My ex brother in law is a surveyor in the part of Northern VA where Washington worked. Occasionally when the ex went to the county courthouse to do research for a survey, he would come across a survey GW had done of the same property 200+ years ago. What a way to make history come alive! My ex BIL told me that given the limitations of 18th century equipment, it was evident that young George was a very good surveyor.

Posted by: mongo at November 05, 2022 12:49 PM (4wlYh)

107 Never heard of this author or her work, or her nasty idiotic public rantings.

Then again, that seems to be true for about 90% of things these days.

Amusing how I literally have never heard the names, much less know anything about, almost all the entertainment/pop culture people pilloried around here on a regular basis.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 05, 2022 12:52 PM (OTzUX)

108 mongo, that's extremely cool about the NoVA surveying stories.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 05, 2022 12:52 PM (OTzUX)

109 Townhall.com@townhallcom
BIDEN ON COAL:
"We're gonna be shutting these plants down all across America, and having wind and solar.

What a friggin' idiot.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2022 12:52 PM (anj39)

110 Democracy got hung out to dry with the bed linen.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 05, 2022 12:53 PM (geVLo)

111 IIRC, the Lewis and Clark expedition was one of the most accurate survey parties of the era, considering equipment. Some of their maps are off only by a meter or so compared to present day GPS.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 05, 2022 12:53 PM (lz5hY)

112 I guess Sarah's been fired.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 05, 2022 12:31 PM (BdMk6)

Sadly, I just heard from Sarah's cousin, Tom. Sarah died in a weird home marketing scam accident.

Posted by: Manti Te'o at November 05, 2022 12:54 PM (XfBY/)

113 Kim Kardashian makes a good wage working from home.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at November 05, 2022 12:47 PM (FVME7)

They say two of the top 10 earners on Onlyfans are men.

I'm gonna start doing some situps.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 05, 2022 12:56 PM (XfBY/)

114 >>>IIRC, the Lewis and Clark expedition was one of the most accurate survey parties of the era, considering equipment. Some of their maps are off only by a meter or so compared to present day GPS.

>When you have a herd of bison or a grizzly bear or a tribe of savages bearing down on you it pays to be precise.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 05, 2022 12:59 PM (geVLo)

115 BIDEN ON COAL:
"We're gonna be shutting these plants down all across America, and having wind and solar.

The asshat is gleefully telegraphing the plans for the destruction of what's left of American greatness.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 05, 2022 01:02 PM (Xrfse)

116 Portland's rabidly Left-wing county has 19% of the voters in the state.

Oregon only has vote by mail.

With four days to go before the election in 2018, Portland's county had turned in 20% of the votes state-wide.

With four days to go before the election in 2022, Portland's county has turned in 14% of the votes state-wide.

Tick-tock.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 05, 2022 01:04 PM (KCOCK)

117 >>>The asshat is gleefully telegraphing the plans for the destruction of what's left of American greatness.

Posted by: Notorious BFD

>Democracy Dies In Darkness. And Winter Cold.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 05, 2022 01:04 PM (geVLo)

118 What a friggin' idiot.
Posted by: Diogenes
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He should go national with that.
It's a winner, Joey.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 05, 2022 01:04 PM (ezSUn)

119 116 BIDEN ON COAL:
"We're gonna be shutting these plants down all across America, and having wind and solar.

The asshat is gleefully telegraphing the plans for the destruction of what's left of American greatness.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 05, 2022 01:02 PM (Xrfse)

Germany already tried that, and they are frantically trying to bring their coal plants back online.

This was an utterly insane remark by Biden - who does he think he's attracting with this? Only the hard core far left is excited about this, and he's already got them in his pocket.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2022 01:06 PM (q3gwH)

120 "George Washington Memorial Parkway near Belle Haven"

The picture is Wilson Bridge, which you can see from GW PKWY. I live near this part of GW PKWY. Great walking around there. Pretty views all around. It's south of the beltway and Alexandria. Worth a visit. Mt Vernon is down that way also. I recommend a visit there too.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 05, 2022 01:06 PM (xSnmX)

121 So Putin doesn't like what the Brits are doing in Ukraine eh? Well, a new government and a new monarch. A good time to mess with them I guess.
It'll be interesting to see how it turns out.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2022 01:06 PM (anj39)

122 Just did a google search on "Kari Lake news".

Wow, the MSM hate for her is real and its spectacular.

She wasn't kidding when she said her news coverage has been 100% negative.

Posted by: WisRich at November 05, 2022 01:07 PM (qKfc+)

123 I don’t think vote for us and you’ll freeze to death is quite the winning message they seem to think it is.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 05, 2022 01:09 PM (u73oe)

124 90 Walker is “incompetent, subliterate and coonish,” Professor Sundiata Cha-Jua, a history and African-American studies professor, wrote in The News-Gazette in his regular column on October 23.

I wonder how the Professor would respond if Trump said
"Professor Sundiata Cha-Jua is incompetent, subliterate and coonish." Oh yeah, I wonder.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2022 01:09 PM (q3gwH)

125 It's not surprising that the media would have nothing but hate for Kari Lake. She used to be one of them and is now off the reservation as a Republican and dishing it out to them faster than they can dish it out to her.

Democrats cannot abide anyone leaving the plantation.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 05, 2022 01:09 PM (Q4IgG)

126 This was an utterly insane remark by Biden - who does he think he's attracting with this? Only the hard core far left is excited about this, and he's already got them in his pocket.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2022 01:06 PM (q3gwH)
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It's desperation time. Now their just trying to get their base to turnout so they throw out the red meat.

They've given up on the true indy's.

Posted by: WisRich at November 05, 2022 01:10 PM (qKfc+)

127 Just did a google search on "Kari Lake news".

Always remember that the Democrats pushed Lake in the Republican primary, because they thought that she would be unelectable in the general election.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 05, 2022 01:10 PM (KCOCK)

128 The funny thing is that the Media Hate for Lake is also 100% ineffective. They've lost their power, nobody except the True Believers even listens to them anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2022 01:10 PM (q3gwH)

129 I'm going to have to service my chainsaw before that snow starts to fly. That or hijack a coal car from the railroad.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 05, 2022 01:11 PM (geVLo)

130 A long time ago, I worked for a federal agency, and was on an audit expedition outside PIttsburgh, checking the accuracy of some geographical material in the midst of being translated into GIS workable data. It was an interesting job. I got a guided tour of a township section that straddled a small mountain, so that as one ascended the hill road, one went back and forth across the boundary line, and all the addresses and property delineators changed between map sections.

It was difficult data for the 'coders' to work with. When I got back to the local branch, I kind-sorta-stormed into the local official's office and demanded to know who the hell had surveyed a township to do that...!

He was ready for me. Said "I thought you might ask that," and handed me a rolled-up photostat of the county's map document. In a little box in the corner, it was lettered "Original survey, G. Washington."

"OK. We're done here." I was done complaining.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 05, 2022 01:12 PM (x61Im)

131 I attended the Army's Artillery School survey course. Now I'm good with maps and navigation but...DAMN! Surveying be hard, yo!
I have nothing but respect for anyone who does it well.
I remember shooting a "simo" on the sun with another survey team. I never figured it out.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2022 01:12 PM (anj39)

132 Always remember that the Democrats pushed Lake in the Republican primary, because they thought that she would be unelectable in the general election.

Which they also did with Trump in 2016. They're not a quick study.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 05, 2022 01:14 PM (KFhLj)

133 128 The funny thing is that the Media Hate for Lake is also 100% ineffective. They've lost their power, nobody except the True Believers even listens to them anymore.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2022 01:10 PM (q3gwH)
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Trump and Lake know the media's weakness (they're idiots) because the worked in media, behind they scenes.

Like Cpt Ramius: "Oh Vasily. Moscow is not the worry, nor the whole Soviet navy. I know their tactics. I have the advantage."

Posted by: WisRich at November 05, 2022 01:15 PM (qKfc+)

134 I'm not sure at this point that FJB and his handlers are really much concerned with public support. This now seems like a kamikaze mission.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 05, 2022 01:17 PM (Xrfse)

135
BIDEN ON COAL:
"We're gonna be shutting these plants down all across America, and having wind and solar.

Welcome to the 19th century.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 05, 2022 01:18 PM (63Dwl)

136 129 I'm going to have to service my chainsaw before that snow starts to fly. That or hijack a coal car from the railroad.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 05, 2022 01:11 PM (geVLo)

The coal car seems easier.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 05, 2022 01:19 PM (BdMk6)

137 Being an object of media hatred is now proof of sanity.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 05, 2022 01:20 PM (eGTCV)

138 @90 Did you see who bit out a big chunk of that "African American Professor" 's ass, over on Insty?

You can tell by his name and his bearing that he's no true African -- says Baldilocks.

I laughed out loud. Damn, that had to hurt.
Please send me one squadron of true Africans.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 05, 2022 01:20 PM (x61Im)

139 Welcome to the 19th century.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 05, 2022 01:18 PM (63Dwl)

Closer to the 17th to 18th. They used a lot of coal in the 19th Century

Posted by: Kindltot at November 05, 2022 01:20 PM (xhaym)

140 BIDEN ON COAL:
"We're gonna be shutting these plants down all across America, and having wind and solar.

Welcome to the 19th century.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 05, 2022 01:18 PM (63Dwl)
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Biden: "Those Dutch were way ahead of their time. Same for those wooden shoes!

Posted by: WisRich at November 05, 2022 01:22 PM (qKfc+)

141 I'm not sure at this point that FJB and his handlers are really much concerned with public support. This now seems like a kamikaze mission.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 05, 2022 01:17 PM (Xrfse)

If there is a red wave, my fear is what they'll do between now and January.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at November 05, 2022 01:22 PM (BdMk6)

142 It's not surprising that the media would have nothing but hate for Kari Lake. She used to be one of them and is now off the reservation as a Republican and dishing it out to them faster than they can dish it out to her.

Democrats cannot abide anyone leaving the plantation.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 05, 2022 01:09 PM (Q4IgG)
***
Washington State had a similar candidate awhile back with Susan Hutchinson. Former media. Unfortunately she was too nice and wouldn't go for the jugular. And the media hated her.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2022 01:24 PM (anj39)

143 NOOD

garden +

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 05, 2022 01:25 PM (llON8)

144 Later gang.
Got a section of fence to fix. Blew down last night in the wind storm.
Ugh.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2022 01:27 PM (anj39)

145 @136 The coal car seems easier.
Especially when you think of the husbandry definition of "service"...yes, I have serviced a few chainsaws.
One turned out to be a keeper, but I have scars.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 05, 2022 01:29 PM (x61Im)

146 This was an utterly insane remark by Biden - who does he think he's attracting with this? Only the hard core far left is excited about this, and he's already got them in his pocket.
Posted by: Tom Servo
-------------------------------

Joey B.'s lucky charm
he's magically delicious

next thing he's going to announce that the fix is in - that they've got the election in the bag. Literally.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 05, 2022 01:33 PM (ezSUn)

147 The author of Julie & Julia died of a heart attack. She was 49.

This is getting very scary.
Posted by: Piperc
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This happened to my neighbor. She was 56, and by all appearances, she was in good health. It's way too early for me to ask her husband as to whether she had taken the shots.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 05, 2022 01:34 PM (O8Vti)

148 I attended the Army's Artillery School survey course. Now I'm good with maps and navigation but...DAMN! Surveying be hard, yo!
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They want to put you back in chains.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 05, 2022 01:37 PM (O8Vti)

149 135 BIDEN ON COAL:
"We're gonna be shutting these plants down all across America, and having wind and solar.

Welcome to the 19th century.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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There's going to be an accident - a plains tornado destroy a field of those spinning dreams; people without electricity for no good reason for too long.
Politicians wanted to be elected.
Just a matter of time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83zbhuIO2eM

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 05, 2022 01:39 PM (ezSUn)

150 Police are pointing fingers at a Florida man accused of attempting to rob a store while armed only with a finger gun, a police report shows.

https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=133102
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He also said, "PEW!"

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at November 05, 2022 01:42 PM (pOvNt)

151
He also said, "PEW!"
Posted by: SMH
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LOL

Presumably, also, "Stick 'em up".

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 05, 2022 01:47 PM (vILiQ)

152 Government creates problems, then it has to fix them with more government!

Prevention is better than a cure. The way to "fix homelessness" is to either have policies - or remove policies - which will then reduce the issues that lead to homelessness in the first place.

The little I read above -- spending more taxpayer dollars to build houses for the homeless, a ballot measure that would legalize online sports betting and direct a sizable portion of tax revenue to homelessness and mental health services -- is not about fixing or preventing homelessness, but about subsidizing it.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 05, 2022 02:07 PM (Do5/p)

153 "next thing he's going to announce that the fix is in..."
Last time he did that, he was correct.

Posted by: gourmand du jour back in the fog at November 05, 2022 02:07 PM (jTmQV)

154 "He should go national with that.
It's a winner, Joey."

Reminder: in what I think was the 2nd "debate" (more of a surreal nightmare with the cretin Biden and the idiot "moderator" relentlessly focusing on non-issues), Biden declared he would shut down the oil industry.

It was such a ridiculous thing to say, Trump couldn't help but smirk a bit and and shake his head while repeating the concept out loud.

This resulted in 1) what should have occurred anyway, a 36-state electoral blowout for Trump 2) a razor-thin Biden victory, with a substantial real popular vote margin, and very likely a small fraudulent *actual* defeat.

So I've got good company in Trump with simply being unable to comprehend the stupidity of an enormous %, working majority or close, of the American people.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 05, 2022 02:07 PM (OTzUX)

155 My favorite phrase out of Germany lately: "gas to coal".

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hilarious.

Idiots.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 05, 2022 02:08 PM (OTzUX)

156 " bereft' Prince Andrew 'wept' after Charles told him he 'would NEVER return to Royal duties "

One idiot would do anything to get his job back whereas
the whipped idiot insists on sticking his thumb into the King's family at every opportunity in order to get his job back.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 05, 2022 02:09 PM (ezSUn)

157 104. So typically me, I am always late to the party and acting like I have interesting news for all! 😂

Posted by: Piper at November 05, 2022 02:11 PM (ZdaMQ)

158 It's snowing again so I might be snowed. But I might be able to go for groceries and a trip to the pub. Hmmm.
How bad does the snow have to be before going for a beer indicates a problem?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 05, 2022 02:24 PM (eGTCV)

159 This is the lowest turn out to KT's column ever.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 05, 2022 02:24 PM (ezSUn)

160 Think I'm going to skip breakfast and have a pizza.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 05, 2022 02:25 PM (ezSUn)

161 6 The virginia reel clip reminds me of the scene in GWTW where Rhett purchases a dance with the Widow Hamilton. Except Selznick staged it a lot better.
Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2022 11:11 AM (dCxaZ)

Me too...first thing my mind went to.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 05, 2022 02:25 PM (CCSxw)

162 How bad does the snow have to be before going for a beer indicates a problem?
Posted by: That NLurker guy
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Only if it has caved in the roof of the pub.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 05, 2022 02:26 PM (BqFOC)

163 I'm not sure at this point that FJB and his handlers are really much concerned with public support. This now seems like a kamikaze mission.

It might be as simple as being unable or unwilling to acknowledge that their positions are neither popular nor the right side of history. And what we're seeing is the end results of their brains avoiding that particular reality.

Posted by: Methos at November 05, 2022 02:36 PM (kOpft)

164 I'm not sure at this point that FJB and his handlers are really much concerned with public support. This now seems like a kamikaze mission.

I'm puzzled about who his handlers are. Is he being controlled by the Soros organization?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 05, 2022 02:39 PM (eGTCV)

165 How bad does the snow have to be before going for a beer indicates a problem?
Posted by: That NLurker guy

Is it cloudy?

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2022 02:41 PM (anj39)

166 Is it cloudy?
Posted by: Diogenes at November

Yes?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 05, 2022 02:41 PM (eGTCV)

167 Musk threatens "thermonuclear name & shame" of woke advertisers that boycott Twitter
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I guess they forgot that he owns all of their DMs now.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 05, 2022 02:44 PM (vti7G)

168 I'm not sure at this point that FJB and his handlers are really much concerned with public support.

Posted by: Methos at November 05, 2022 02:36 PM

This has been obvious to me since Summer of 2020. And confirmed in November 2020 after the rigged and stolen elections. Joe Biden and his handlers have nothing to do with any of this. They are simply puppets of the WEF and China.

Starting with the Plandemic and all the rigged and stolen elections across the world in every Western nation, this has been orchestrated by the WEF. Those who think anything that has gone on since March 2020 has anything to do with Biden or the Democrat Party have not been paying attention to what has been going on across the rest of the world. (i.e. most recent example is the stolen election in Brazil).

I am still not convinced there will be a "red wave" or the Deep State or WEF will allow any of any newly elected conservatives to have any influence. I will believe it when I see it. I was completely fooled heading into the 2020 elections. I will not be that naive again.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 05, 2022 02:44 PM (Do5/p)

169 Is it cloudy?
Posted by: Diogenes at November

Yes?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at November 05, 2022 02:41 PM (eGTCV)

Then get thee to the pub!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2022 02:45 PM (anj39)

170 Didn't Boston Children's do the same thing to a couple from Connecticut and their daughter several years ago? Basically held the girl incommunicado, even denied her the Sacraments.

Last place I'd take my child.

Posted by: Montgomery Scott, Captain (Engineering), Star Fleet at November 05, 2022 03:00 PM (qyH+l)

171 The coal car seems easier.

Make sure to take one of the smaller ones. They're probably anthracite rather than bituminous. Better for household heating.

Posted by: Montgomery Scott, Captain (Engineering), Star Fleet at November 05, 2022 03:07 PM (qyH+l)

172 If Northwestern was anything other than a 1-7 team they would be beating Ohio State right now.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 05, 2022 03:13 PM (mShwQ)

173 82 The Presidio of SF is swarmed with gun emplacements. Fort Funston, same thing.
Never fired in anger.
Posted by: gourmand du jour back in the fog at November 05, 2022 12:23 PM (jTmQV

Same with Fort Jefferson (Dry Tortugas, FL; about as far away from San Francisco and still be in CONUS).

Posted by: Montgomery Scott, Captain (Engineering), Star Fleet at November 05, 2022 03:19 PM (qyH+l)

174 167 Musk threatens "thermonuclear name & shame" of woke advertisers that boycott Twitter
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I guess they forgot that he owns all of their DMs now.
Posted by: Dave in Fla
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Tesla's won't pollute those Boring Co tunnels on Mars.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 05, 2022 03:19 PM (ezSUn)

175 I'll probably need to post this again because few are paying attention to this thread now, but Baris just ran a surprise poll in Ohio to test the university pollsters to see if they are being honest.

Spolier, they aren't.

They have been dropping polls showing Vance and Ryan tied. Notablely neither Baris or Trafalger have been polling the state.

Baris gave Ryan a massively favorable weight, and the poll came back Vance +6. He thinks a legitimate weight would be more like Vance +12.

If you listen to the podcast, I talk about Pennsylvania and the possibility of a polling miss there. South Western PA and Ohio vote very similarly.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 05, 2022 03:31 PM (KWP5e)

176 Thanks, Dave. I think there are a lot of pollsters who will be very embarrassed next week.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 05, 2022 03:37 PM (u73oe)

177 Thanks, Dave. I think there are a lot of pollsters who will be very embarrassed next week.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 05, 2022 03:37 PM (u73oe)

Won't be embarrassed at all. They are doing the bidding of their paymasters and they'll keep on doing it

Posted by: JoeF. at November 05, 2022 03:43 PM (mR6Gs)

178 125 It's not surprising that the media would have nothing but hate for Kari Lake. She used to be one of them and is now off the reservation as a Republican and dishing it out to them faster than they can dish it out to her.

Democrats cannot abide anyone leaving the plantation.
Posted by: Martini Farmer a
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and she's using her shobiz skills to frame every encounter

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 05, 2022 03:46 PM (ezSUn)

179 Richard Baris says we are about to experience the biggest political realignment in US history.
The clip is on CFP.

Posted by: gourmand du jour back in the fog at November 05, 2022 03:46 PM (jTmQV)

180 I am abashed I polluted the Pet Thread with politics.

OK, I'm over it.

Dave in Fla:

Thanks for mentioning that Attorney Genera Derek Schmidt has the Governor's slot in Kansas. Been some concern, as the GOPe turned on him like they betrayed Kris Kobach. Lots to fight here in Kansas.

Kansas: 2.98 million people, 6 million cows (not all Angus) and 85% urban. The fight continues.

I will not run again in 2024, but I don't know if I made enough enemies to write me in to win.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 05, 2022 04:07 PM (u82oZ)

181 Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 05, 2022 03:31 PM (KWP5e)

Hey, Dave, I just listened to the podcast, and wanted to let you know your analysis is appreciated.

Even if we don't get the 300 reps and 80 senators needed to do anything ;p

Posted by: Methos at November 05, 2022 04:10 PM (kOpft)

182 The clip is on CFP.
Posted by: gourmand du jour back in the fog

CFP? College Football Playoff?
Catastrophic Flash Point?
Certified Fungi Polisher?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 05, 2022 04:17 PM (IyrhE)

183 ***starts to rant***

The Feds are really pushing this new clot shot...

I just watched a TV ad, and at first I thought it was an ad for Pfizer...only to watch to the end and see a ".gov" address on it.

These people are mad...as in crazy...as in out of their fucking minds.

And yet the general public is oblivious to the dangers. We've got a goodly number of people at my gym who have come down with "something" over the past few weeks...and they're all jabbed, and yet they don't make a connection to say: hmmm, why me, and not these unjabbed folks?

***end rant***

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 05, 2022 04:21 PM (CCSxw)

184 Citizens Free Press

Posted by: gourmand du jour back in the fog at November 05, 2022 04:29 PM (jTmQV)

185 Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at November 05, 2022 04:21 PM (CCSxw)

——————

They have to get as many people as possible jabbed before the truth becomes totally inescapable, even to the lowest of the LIV.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 05, 2022 04:30 PM (u73oe)

186 Just read a nice article over at ArmyTimes about an org. trying to recruit 100,000 vets as poll workers and to keep an eye on mail-in ballots from active duty overseas. I hope it's true, made my day.

https://tinyurl.com/bdfxep8h

Posted by: dartist at November 05, 2022 04:37 PM (9X/y4)

187 GA 21 - TN 3. 1st Q.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 05, 2022 04:39 PM (ju2Fy)

188 Tennessee has to settle for a FG.

21-6

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 05, 2022 04:53 PM (PY/t0)

189 Looks like Vic's Dawgs are biting today.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 05, 2022 04:59 PM (ezSUn)

190 The commercial that makes me scream at the TV is giving the clot shot to the pregnant woman. My doctor wouldn't let me take an aspirin. If they are telling women its ok to get the jab i hope they burn in hell.

Posted by: Megthered at November 05, 2022 05:03 PM (VcRz1)

191 Megthered, how can people not know about the deaths, the spike in the ovaries and testicles and other odd things associated with it.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at November 05, 2022 05:14 PM (ezSUn)

192 I tried to tell my brother about the clot shot and he said I was listening to too many conspiracy theories. He never heard anything on the MSM so it never happened. He keeps wondering why he's gotten covid three times even though he has all the boosters. He refuses to connect the dots.

Posted by: Megthered at November 05, 2022 05:20 PM (VcRz1)

193 He refuses to connect the dots.
Posted by: Megthered at November 05, 2022 05:20 PM (VcRz1)

the clot shot dots

Posted by: JoeF. at November 05, 2022 05:44 PM (mR6Gs)

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