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Training clinical psychologists to be social justice activists and kids to be paranoid wokesters

AddamsFamilyValu.jpg

Where would these two fall on
a comparative intersectional privilege scale?
AND WHY?

I, for one, am glad that the movie above came out before Critical Social Justice hit the big time.

Sometimes a clinical psychologist can be very helpful. But psychological theories change over the years. What are your thoughts about the Theory of Displacement?

Can displacement be overcome completely?

Today, we are on our way from the Theory of Displacement to theories promoted by the New Left.

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The New Left Invades Brains in Clinical Psychology

A former professor of clinical psychology at Antioch University explains her view that students in clinical psychology programs are being taught to teach patients how to be mentally ill. Patients are being taught "learned helplessness" by focusing on microaggressions, racism, etc.

She worries about the next generation of clinical psychologists. I have seen comments elsewhere about some of these ideas infecting credentialing bodies for ongoing education. But Antioch seems to have an especially severe case of leftism, so it may be one of the vanguards of the revolution. Though it probably isn't too out of line with a lot of other universities.

Horace Mann was its first president. He is a big name in the history of American education. Apparently, Antioch has been moving to the left ever since. The university couldn't hang on where it started, in Ohio (where there is now an independent Antioch College), but there are several Antioch University campuses and online programs, mostly on the coasts. We need some alternatives to our current universities.

The graphics in the video below are a bit distracting, but if you click over to YouTube, you may see some nice subtitles which get to the meat of the issue.

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From the same university program described above:

Here is a very articulate current student in the Antioch graduate clinical mental health counseling program (she has almost finished her Master's) revealing that her course of study trains counselors to concentrate on becoming leftist activists rather than mental health counselors. These details go even further than the claims in the video by the former professor above.

Counselors are being taught not to be objective and neutral with their clients, but rather to view the emotionally vulnerable people who come to see them as opportunities to imprint and spread "Social Justice" ideology. In this video I provide shocking examples of the current state of counselor training at an American university.

This university has been colonized by a bizarre "Addressing Model" cult based in CRT and intersectionality

From the comments on YouTube, this "Addressing Model" has already made it into clinical practice in the real world. Makes choosing a therapist a difficult task:

We were taught that our main role as counselors is not in our work with clients, individuals and families but rather as activists for social justice. We were taught to assess ourselves and our clients with something called the "Addressing Model." This uses the word Addressing as an acronym, with each letter standing for different demographic category - - so age, disability, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, nationality, gender identity, socioeconomic status, etc. And for each of these categories, we are to give ourselves either a value of "marginalized" or "privileged" and do the same for our clients, and then add these up and see who's more privileged. And this teaches you how you're supposed to interact with your client. . .

NEVER MIND WHY THE CLIENT IS SEEKING HELP. Does the client think his new bride might be trying to kill him, like in the movies? That's not important. Where Kimberle Crenshaw would score the therapist and client on a demographic intersectional power scale is what's important. Otherwise, how can the therapist inject more racial issues, etc. into the conversation?

Imagine being so obsessed by an ideology that you believe that the relative power between a therapist and emotionally distressed client is, or should be, measured on a crude demographic scale.

It gets worse from there.

The faculty advisor admitted to me that they are aware that they are not training counselors who are going to be able to work with, in her words, "the Trump supporter". . .

This young woman may have a fight for her degree ahead of her.

WELL. It looks like she is forging ahead. Here's a longer video with documentation concerning the university's exclusively leftist indoctrination, with excerpts from a textbook and also flyers from the chancellor, with commentary by others, full of personal political viewpoints. Critical Race Theory, Decolonization, Intersectionality and the latest in Gender Theory are pushed as the only possible moral positions, including for teacher training. One area of special interest was "Police Abolition". Though January 6 was also portrayed as the culmination of 400 years of White Supremacy. So dramatic!

The leftist language in the flyers is remarkable. The university has set up segregated "affinity groups" for minorities and an "accountability group" for whites. The teacher of a class about "people with vulvas" is a neurodivergent, disabled, queer, etc. human. The Addressing Model shows up in faculty descriptions - not just in course materials. This course instructor goes all-out to increase her intersectional marginalization score, probably because they/she are/is white.

Can't wait for the classes taught by aliens or bats.

And, of course, the university won't define what a woman is.

OOPS: the university pushes back, de-activating this student's I.D. and account.

And now. . . it's re-activated without access to social justice content She has hired an attorney to represent her concerning completion of her degree.

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The New Left Invades Brains in K-12 Schools

On the subject of intersectional comparisons, what a nightmare it would be if they tried to make schoolkids use the "Addressing Model" above to determine how they should interact with each other based on their relative power. Activists are approaching this sort of thing in some places.

It's been a while since I saw a photo of Kimberle Crenshaw, who introduced the both of the famous terms "Critical Race Theory" and "Intersectionality".

Kimberl.jpg

She's changed her hair. See below. One of her organizations is going hard after K-12 schools in an "activation', along with Kendi. Maybe it's important for such activists to have exotic hair now. Kendi certainly has distinctive hair. He seems to do better with the media than most of the academic "anti-racists".

Ah, for the days of "CRT is not being taught in schools".

In the video above, Crenshaw frames opposition to things like CRT praxis in schools, transgender affirmation without the knowledge of parents and pr0n in school libraries as a backlash to national unity regarding "police accountability" during the George Floyd protests. She is especially distraught that people are opposed to teaching the "racist origins of our Constitution". In the video, Crenshaw actually says,

The efforts to fight back have been - - complicated. We've tried to pivot. We've tried to avoid detection. We've tried to disavow CRT and a host of concepts that extremists want to paint us all with.

SHE IS THE ONE WHO NAMED CRT. And she is accusing people of "painting" her with its concepts? I wonder if she is referring to, say, some of the concepts pushed by Robin DiAngelo that sort of diverge from classical CRT. If so, she should make clear exactly which concepts "extremists" are using to "misrepresent" CRT, and where they came from.

Crenshaw then explains that although many may not have heard of CRT until last year, it is a "prism" and a "practice" . . .

Well, some of us already knew that. They have been implanting CRT in minds to use it as a "prism" and also pushing it in practice - praxis. They have not been reading law school papers to little kids.

Sooooo . . . . they were always lying when they said CRT was just a theory taught in law school. Crenshaw was lying, especially, since she spread it from the law schools to other fields and paired it up with intersectionality.

She also gets in a little dig at the Civil Rights Movement and color-blindness. There's a longer video linked in the thread.

crt in educat.jpg

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One likely adverse effect of the changes in counseling and education described above

Follow the science!

Happy Halloween!

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A small victory?

From September:

University of North Texas Settles With Professor Fired After Mocking 'Microaggressions'

Alliance Defending Freedom reports:

Texas university pays $165K to professor fired for writing a joke in the teachers' lounge criticizing microaggressions

In a victory for free speech on public university campuses, the University of North Texas has agreed to pay $165,000 in damages and attorneys' fees for violating a math professor's First Amendment rights when it fired him for writing a joke criticizing microaggressions on a chalkboard in the teachers' lounge.

Alliance Defending Freedom attorneys represent Nathaniel Hiers in his lawsuit against the university. After discovering flyers in the mathematics department's faculty lounge about "microaggressions," Hiers jokingly wrote on the chalkboard, "Please don't leave garbage lying around," with an arrow pointing to the flyers. The following week, the head of the math department fired Hiers by cancelling his contract to teach in the spring, admitting that he fired Hiers because he criticized the flyers and didn't express "honest regret" about his actions.


It's not a very hefty settlement. But it's something!

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Music and Dance

The Sexican

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Sweet Charity

I am woefully unexposed to the movie corpus of Shirley MacClaine. I didn't know where the dance scene above came from.

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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Last week's thread, September 22, Why does gender theory lead away from civilization?

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:10 AM




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1 Appropriate characters for the Halloween season.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 29, 2022 11:13 AM (AiZBA)

2 Nice post, Taylor and I were having a chat the other evening about the decline and fall of the behavior sciences.

Posted by: sven at October 29, 2022 11:14 AM (Lzpvj)

3 And first.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 29, 2022 11:14 AM (AiZBA)

4 They get pissed at our mocking microaggressions because they know they are planning macroaggressions.

Posted by: sven at October 29, 2022 11:15 AM (Lzpvj)

5 "She's changed her hair. "

Well, actually, it was that drill press accident.

Posted by: Hammerhead Snark at October 29, 2022 11:15 AM (sn5EN)

6 I am thinking this endocrination of kids is our doom

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 29, 2022 11:17 AM (xhxe8)

7 Hello there sir, I understand you are bothered by Jeffery Dahmer is it because he is white?

//Shrink to Sinthasomphone

https://tinyurl.com/mtmnw38e

Posted by: sven at October 29, 2022 11:18 AM (Lzpvj)

8 "She's changed her hair. "

Well, actually, it was that drill press accident.
Posted by: Hammerhead Snark at October 29, 2022 11:15 AM (sn5EN)


They had to remove her brain... for science.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 29, 2022 11:19 AM (AiZBA)

9 Loved Addams Family Values. One of the funniest movies I have ever seen. Joan Cusack totally stole the movie.

Posted by: Norman Spiny at October 29, 2022 11:19 AM (IysUk)

10 Worse the 14 year old he had run from his house screaming, bleeding from his rectal orifice, and disoriented would not be accused of homophobia if in the UK and arrested....

we live in an insane asylum

Posted by: sven at October 29, 2022 11:19 AM (Lzpvj)

11 Damn, I read the content. I am a rookie.

Posted by: Albert Arnold Gore JUNIOR at October 29, 2022 11:19 AM (1DgE4)

12 Axios@axios
Regardless of the outcome in November, Stacey Abrams has amassed the influence and financial strength to play a long game statewide and nationally—more than a dozen Democratic officials and operatives have told Axios.

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You, too, can lose like Tank!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 29, 2022 11:21 AM (FVME7)

13 12 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 29, 2022 11:21 AM (FVME7)

It is the Beta O'Roarke plan...take losing to the next level.

Posted by: sven at October 29, 2022 11:21 AM (Lzpvj)

14 https://youtu.be/1gowl-HApos?t=39


no giggling

Posted by: DaveA at October 29, 2022 11:21 AM (FhXTo)

15 When I handle WC and Liability claims with an alleged psych damage component I was very hesitant to obtain my own defense psych medical report . I only did so when it was absolutely necessary to rule out ridiculous allegations. The reason is that 99.9% of psychologists /psychiatrists will make some type of psych diagnosis . Rarely if ever will they opine that there is nothing wrong.

Posted by: polynikes at October 29, 2022 11:22 AM (JFJ0Q)

16 11 Posted by: Albert Arnold Gore JUNIOR at October 29, 2022 11:19 AM (1DgE4)

True pros have an idea that requires a tiny url, get the link, make a post, read the content, then modify as needed.

Posted by: sven at October 29, 2022 11:22 AM (Lzpvj)

17 15 Posted by: polynikes at October 29, 2022 11:22 AM (JFJ0Q)

The entire field is now epistemologically flawed at its heart, psychiatry and psychology both were allowed to be considered serious disciplines because they were there societally as bulwarks and defense mechanisms of normalcy.

The majority of practitioners now view their role as bending society to accept their clients if you look at their voting patterns.

Posted by: sven at October 29, 2022 11:24 AM (Lzpvj)

18 Not only am I a rookie, I left a day old sock on.

I give up.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at October 29, 2022 11:24 AM (1DgE4)

19 AOC Claims Record Inflation Has Nothing To Do With Democrat Policies…

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April Fools!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 29, 2022 11:26 AM (FVME7)

20 Popular clinical psychology goes off the rails when it becomes about validation and claims to be nonjudgmental. If there's no objective upon which to judge, the only reference point becomes the individual himself, severed from the rest of mankind.

I always found it deliciously ironic that people would seek help with their self-esteem. You want better self-esteem? Do something estimable. Why go out and buy a self-help book written by someone else.

Live life outside your own mind-cocoon.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 11:27 AM (kXYt5)

21 This is awesome hy I can't go to a shrink /therapist/ etc -- don't know how to pick someone I could trust

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 29, 2022 11:28 AM (5rCWs)

22 I read the content because KT always brings the content. Always worth a read.

Fore warned is fore armed.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 29, 2022 11:28 AM (KX1XC)

23 Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 11:27 AM (kXYt5)

The Psych professionals have become Enablers.

Posted by: polynikes at October 29, 2022 11:29 AM (JFJ0Q)

24 21 Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 29, 2022 11:28 AM (5rCWs)

It is hard, it took me about 14 years to find the right team of shrinks.

My psychiatrist was a retired USAF flight surgeon and my psychologist was a former engineer who changed fields at 50.

Posted by: sven at October 29, 2022 11:29 AM (Lzpvj)

25 It's kind of like dentists for rotting teeth.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 29, 2022 11:30 AM (eGTCV)

26 ATTENTION PROMINENT CRT ACTIVISTS (list of names attached)

The University of Miklos has a budget of $1,000,000 to invite one or more of you to speak and teach at our campus.

Please send your best-price offer, explaining why you are better qualified than your CRT colleagues.

Posted by: Sincerely Miklos at October 29, 2022 11:30 AM (SP4pi)

27 The entire field is now epistemologically flawed at its heart, psychiatry and psychology both were allowed to be considered serious disciplines because they were there societally as bulwarks and defense mechanisms of normalcy.

The majority of practitioners now view their role as bending society to accept their clients if you look at their voting patterns.
Posted by: sven at October 29, 2022 11:24

Yes indeed sven. Are you running around w/ a hammer? Cause you hit the nail on the head
.

Posted by: Farmer at October 29, 2022 11:31 AM (55Qr6)

28 The APA's declaration a few years ago that masculinity is a pathology was only the tip of the iceberg. Good to know.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at October 29, 2022 11:32 AM (DTX3h)

29 If there's no objective upon which to judge, the only reference point becomes the individual himself, severed from the rest of mankind.



This...is problematic

Posted by: now redundant and otherwise unemployable clinical psychologists at October 29, 2022 11:33 AM (SP4pi)

30 27 Posted by: Farmer at October 29, 2022 11:31 AM (55Qr6)

Thanks, my mother rest her soul was a schizophrenic who was studying psychology. I observed the center of gravity of her decades of on and off treatment and read her texts as a child and have always kept an oar in the water. I think the field was bleeding in the 70s but made up its mind around 1988 that it was going to go full retard.

Posted by: sven at October 29, 2022 11:34 AM (Lzpvj)

31 Live life outside your own mind-cocoon.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 11:27

I've always noticed that Muldoon is a wise man but this is so good I'm gonna steal it. OK M?

Posted by: Farmer at October 29, 2022 11:35 AM (55Qr6)

32 28 Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at October 29, 2022 11:32 AM (DTX3h)

The only person who is not mentally ill is the transvestite BIPOC persyn who does not know their gender.

That is where the field is at.

Posted by: sven at October 29, 2022 11:35 AM (Lzpvj)

33 The APA's declaration a few years ago that masculinity is a pathology was only the tip of the iceberg. Good to know.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik

Oddly, the APA has become established as one of the "styles" used in academic and professional writing far removed from their purported expertise.

Posted by: Miklos, shrugging like a Frenchman at October 29, 2022 11:37 AM (SP4pi)

34 Shirley MacClaine dances with Gene Kelly in What a Way to Go. Fun movie with lots of stars. Paul Newman, Dick Van Dyke, Robert Mitchum, Dean Martin.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 29, 2022 11:39 AM (Wy1BU)

35 Live life outside your own mind-cocoon.
Posted by: Muldoon

But I liked that Cocoon movie.

Even had a drink with Don Ameche once.

Posted by: Miklos, contre-shrugging like a Frenchman at October 29, 2022 11:39 AM (SP4pi)

36 Psychology has always been of dubious value, although sometimes it can help some people think about things differently or face things they were ignoring. But it used to be about helping you see the problems in your life and solve them by helping YOU. They cannot do anything about others, and were focused on what was wrong with their clients.

Modern psychologists tend to focus on helping someone feel good about themselves, and blaming others for all their problems. Its not you, its toxic men! Its not you, its your parents! Its not you, its people not accepting you for who you are!

Either way, their goal is to string you out forever, solve nothing, and keep the money flow, but in this case, they're affirming and supporting what made you ill and screwed up to begin with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 29, 2022 11:40 AM (Ivdso)

37 26 ATTENTION PROMINENT CRT ACTIVISTS (list of names attached)

The University of Miklos has a budget of $1,000,000 to invite one or more of you to speak and teach at our campus.

Please send your best-price offer, explaining why you are better qualified than your CRT colleagues.

Posted by: Sincerely Miklos at October 29, 2022 11:30 AM (SP4pi)
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I have my own silenced howitzer and acid bath, do they count?

Posted by: Ciampino - I saved the CRT from my old oscilloscope at October 29, 2022 11:40 AM (qfLjt)

38 Live life outside your own mind-cocoon.
Posted by: Muldoon


Word. The voice most likely to lie to you is your own. A thing I have learned the hard way.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez at October 29, 2022 11:41 AM (03Hhr)

39 25 It's kind of like dentists for rotting teeth.

this is about me, usn't it?

Posted by: lemming of the bda at October 29, 2022 11:42 AM (gu2bt)

40 It's Hammer Time!

What? What did I miss?

Posted by: M.C. Hammer, making the world's most mistimed comeback at October 29, 2022 11:42 AM (PiwSw)

41 I have my own silenced howitzer and acid bath, do they count?
Posted by: Ciampino

You are in charge of the Faculty Reception.

Posted by: Miklos, happy to delegate at October 29, 2022 11:43 AM (SP4pi)

42 The tragedy is that many people could benefit from psych treatment that is based on learning self awareness and given the tools to deal with their problems instead of just trying to make the patient feel better about themselves and their problems.

Posted by: polynikes at October 29, 2022 11:43 AM (JFJ0Q)

43 Doing the Nevada Day parade this morning. 9 hot air balloons on "Dawn Patrol" flying over my house right now. Local bands getting in line for the walk down Main St.

Head on a swivel all day. To soft of a target for crazies.

Posted by: Reforger at October 29, 2022 11:43 AM (MM7Y8)

44 36 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 29, 2022 11:40 AM (Ivdso)

My psychologist and I had an 11 session fight over "toxic parents" a book that was "the current thing" for childhood PTSD survivors.

I nipped it in the bud, took ownership of the decisions I had made since I was 12 while acknowledging the bad environment and healed as much as I could.

Posted by: sven at October 29, 2022 11:43 AM (Lzpvj)

45 I'm not saying that the Empress has an irrational fear of 'Outside'.

And after reading this, I might just sit inside with her.

At least till Alextopia becomes a reality.

https://tinyurl.com/ycybx2vb

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 11:44 AM (uLr+K)

46 I'm starting to think Scientology may have been onto something when it comes to hatred for psychology and psychiatry.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 29, 2022 11:44 AM (oqrJk)

47 The term CRT was just borrowed from Critical Legal Studies, invented by Derek Bell at Harvard and Richard Delgado at Wisconsin among others.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at October 29, 2022 11:45 AM (lzd36)

48 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 29, 2022 11:40 AM (Ivdso)

Sorry I unintentionally Schumered you. Horde kind and all.

Posted by: polynikes at October 29, 2022 11:45 AM (JFJ0Q)

49 Either way, their goal is to string you out forever, solve nothing, and keep the money flow, but in this case, they're affirming and supporting what made you ill and screwed up to begin with.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

And medications.

Many expensive medications.

Posted by: Miklos, might two fingers of self-medication at October 29, 2022 11:45 AM (SP4pi)

50 I nipped it in the bud, took ownership of the decisions I had made since I was 12 while acknowledging the bad environment and healed as much as I could.

It used to be pretty standard for mental health professionals to recognize that people cannot control other people, only their response and reaction to other people. That has changed, now many (most?) counsel their patients that they are fine and its all the fault of others outside themselves.

That's not healing, its reinforcing the problems. Yes, some people are horrible but its on you how you respond and react to it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 29, 2022 11:46 AM (Ivdso)

51 CRT will continue to be taught as Garland's family is profiting financially and politically.

As for stupidity is psychology. It's been around a long time and unless you are careful in your referrals your patient will find themselves in a situation where the therapist will focus almost exclusively on abuse, and racial "abuse" is only the latest variant.

I had the misfortune of having to work with a couple of social workers who believed they were experts on incestuous abuse. But their goal seemed to be to repair the irreparable. So we got rid of these ladies and found someone who more logically encouraged the person to stop the relationship altogether and build healthy relationships elsewhere. The ladies could not believe that was acceptable. Social work/psychology has always had a stupid streak a mile wide.

Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 11:46 AM (Zzbjj)

52 Fore warned is fore armed.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 29, 2022 11:28 AM (KX1XC)

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Hater!

Posted by: Michelle Fields at October 29, 2022 11:46 AM (cPkwS)

53 Dance videos remind of the song in White Christmas.... They're doing Choreography.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 29, 2022 11:46 AM (oHd/0)

54 Mind = Kind

I need some psych treatment for the homicidal rage I have for the creator of autocorrect.

Posted by: polynikes at October 29, 2022 11:47 AM (JFJ0Q)

55 46 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 29, 2022 11:44 AM (oqrJk)

You can be correct about a wrong and still be wrong, the answer to behavioral maladjustment is probably not "space cooties and tin cans."

Posted by: sven at October 29, 2022 11:47 AM (Lzpvj)

56 Sorry I unintentionally Schumered you. Horde kind and all.

Muldoon said the same thing. Its just sad to see what has happened to our society. And its not just psychs.

Churches are doing the same thing: you don't need to be SAVED, you're great the way you are! You just need to be appreciated and understand how great you are!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 29, 2022 11:48 AM (Ivdso)

57 Even though Albert Ellis had his own issues, I still like REBT.

Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 11:48 AM (Zzbjj)

58 The tragedy is that many people could benefit from psych treatment that is based on learning self awareness and given the tools to deal with their problems instead of just trying to make the patient feel better about themselves and their problems.
Posted by: polynikes at October 29, 2022 11:43 AM (JFJ0Q)

A lot of good work still gets done, but yeah, a lot of bad work is being done by practitioners who don't know what they're doing, or don't care, or have gotten sucked into the insurance driven forms of therapy.

Mental health care is still quite primitive, and it's not really getting better, for the most part. But there is still good work being done, still good research being done that is creating insight into how and why people suffer from mental illness. Usually in spite of what the System is foisting on people.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 29, 2022 11:48 AM (XfBY/)

59 Its not you, its your parents!
Its not you, its people not accepting you for who you are!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 29, 2022 11:40 AM (Ivdso)
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It used to be fashionable to blame parents until all the gender/gay shit hit the sidewalk and now it's the people's fault.

Posted by: Grammar Nazi: It's -- note apostrophe at October 29, 2022 11:48 AM (qfLjt)

60 I've never met a Psychologist who was not screwed up mentally themselves. I think part of the reason they do it, is to prove to themselves that others are just as messed up as they are.

There ARE a few good ones out there... but that's like finding the Cop, Officer Friendly... yes they do exist, but chances of YOU running into on? Jack and shit, and Jack just left town...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 29, 2022 11:49 AM (oHd/0)

61 Churches are doing the same thing: you don't need to be SAVED, you're great the way you are! You just need to be appreciated and understand how great you are!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 29, 2022 11:48 AM (Ivdso)

CS Lewis weeps at how easy the Wormwoods have it these days.

Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 11:49 AM (Zzbjj)

62 Yes, some people are horrible but its on you how you respond and react to it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Walmart as therapy.

Tough Love.

Posted by: Miklos, the women there got legs bigger than my head at October 29, 2022 11:49 AM (SP4pi)

63 Many expensive medications.

Yeah, lots of money in that, and they put EVERYONE on anti-depressants. So many drugged up people out there who didn't need a single chemical.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 29, 2022 11:50 AM (Ivdso)

64 And perhaps this DC School bus driver should seek professional help as well.


https://tinyurl.com/54rbhc8v

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 11:50 AM (uLr+K)

65 Read this past week ( American Thinker maybe) that even Virginia Military Institute has gone woke and full CRT

Posted by: Skip at October 29, 2022 11:50 AM (xhxe8)

66 Even though Albert Ellis had his own issues, I still like REBT.
Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 11:48 AM (Zzbjj)

Heh, yeah Ellis was a jerk, but I'd still take him over Aaron Beck any day of the week.

They're probably both in hell now, arguing over who was more right.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 29, 2022 11:50 AM (XfBY/)

67 And medications.

Many expensive medications.
Posted by: Miklos, might two fingers of self-medication at October 29, 2022 11:45 AM (SP4pi)

More than 1 in 4 of US Women, takes some form of Psych drug.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 29, 2022 11:51 AM (oHd/0)

68 50 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 29, 2022 11:46 AM (Ivdso)

The only flaw his treatment had was his insistence to calumny both my mother and father as a stressor which was provably not true. My father was temper ridden, but as a non-custodial parent with minimal contact he could not be a causative to the degree he was being granted freight. Part of my anger at the sciences was my noticing about the slowly disintegrating logical integrity of the behavior sciences forcing me to notice that in too many cases you have data being gathered to justify hypotheses rather than hypotheses forcing the clinical gathering of data.

Posted by: sven at October 29, 2022 11:51 AM (Lzpvj)

69 It used to be fashionable to blame parents until all the gender/gay shit hit the sidewalk and now it's the people's fault.
Posted by: Grammar Nazi: It's -- note apostrophe at October 29, 2022 11:48 AM (qfLjt)

People meaning "society"? They've been accountable for eating disorders for a very long time now. IIRC

Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 11:51 AM (Zzbjj)

70 I have known several Antioch attendees. Nuts, every one of 'em. Don't know if they started off that way or what.

Posted by: Naked, sitting in a sensory deprivation room, smoking crack. at October 29, 2022 11:51 AM (QY+6a)

71 It used to be fashionable to blame parents until all the gender/gay shit hit the sidewalk and now it's the people's fault.
Posted by: Grammar

I blame Society

*goes off to get sushi and not pay*

Posted by: A Miklos Man is always intense at October 29, 2022 11:51 AM (SP4pi)

72 Hiya K.T. !

Happy Saturday and Happy Halloween !

Posted by: JT at October 29, 2022 11:51 AM (T4tVD)

73 Remember in rock, paper, and scissors, concealed firearm always beats hammer.

Posted by: Paco Pacem at October 29, 2022 11:52 AM (exeWe)

74 This site doesn't load well in Opera. Do I need to change settings?

Posted by: kallisto at October 29, 2022 11:52 AM (dCxaZ)

75 I've never met a Psychologist who was not screwed up mentally themselves

They are all in counselling themselves. I think its part of what led them to the job, being screwy and thinking they can find the answers and tell others about it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 29, 2022 11:52 AM (Ivdso)

76 Miklos !

Posted by: JT at October 29, 2022 11:53 AM (T4tVD)

77 As one of the kids studied in the 70's for ADD and prescribed speed to "fix" me I would never take my kid to a Psycologist.
To hell with their drugs. I hated having to take it and still resent my parents to a certain extent for forcing me to until I figured out how to not swallow them and spit them out on my way to the bus stop. It was about 3 years before I copped to not doing my drugs and boy did they get pissed. In their defence I was failing 8th grade.

Posted by: Reforger at October 29, 2022 11:53 AM (MM7Y8)

78 This site doesn't load well in Opera. Do I need to change settings?
Posted by: kallisto

just start singing !

Posted by: JT at October 29, 2022 11:54 AM (T4tVD)

79 Remember back when society had 'norms'.

And those who deviated from them?

Now we seem to have Organic Norm Free, Free Range behavior running rampant.

And we're the bad folk for suggesting that there are 'norms'.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 11:54 AM (uLr+K)

80 I was at university 1985-1998 (undergrad, graduate school) when the university leaned very liberal. That's before Crenshaw and fellow believers got going with momentum. We're only now beginning to wake up to how deep and widespread the ideological rot is. Marxists have largely taken over the nation's education system. Their goal is to church out people who spread the "virus" of neo-Marxist faith, and frankly they're winning.

I wonder if this nation's education system can be reformed. More likely it needs to be razed.

Posted by: Rick67 at October 29, 2022 11:54 AM (aG9PT)

81 More than 1 in 4 of US Women, takes some form of Psych drug.
Posted by: Romeo13

Then they pee it out, and turn all the frogs gay AND crazy!

Posted by: Miklos, thinking Alex Jones may be almost right.... at October 29, 2022 11:54 AM (SP4pi)

82 Yes, some people are horrible but its on you how you respond and react to it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


I think part of what happened was clumsiness--instead of "that's awful, here's some better ways to handle and cope with it, we've got your back while you learn" it was "it's all your fault for overreacting, you bring it on yourself, suck it up buttercup". Not saying it was in all cases, but some people just shouldn't be therapists, and that's always been true.

Hint: First person helps someone grow. Second makes them hate everyone, including themselves.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez at October 29, 2022 11:54 AM (03Hhr)

83 This site doesn't load well in Opera. Do I need to change settings?
Posted by: kallisto

Mezzosoprano works for me.

Posted by: Coloratura Miklos at October 29, 2022 11:55 AM (SP4pi)

84 Heh, yeah Ellis was a jerk, but I'd still take him over Aaron Beck any day of the week.

They're probably both in hell now, arguing over who was more right.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 29, 2022 11:50 AM (XfBY/)

Me, too, but Beck has the bigger following. I like Ellis, was sorry when he died, sent Debbie a card.

Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 11:55 AM (Zzbjj)

85 Part of my anger at the sciences was my noticing about the slowly disintegrating logical integrity of the behavior sciences forcing me to notice that in too many cases you have data being gathered to justify hypotheses rather than hypotheses forcing the clinical gathering of data.
Posted by: sven at October 29, 2022 11:51 AM (Lzpvj)

This is one of the fundamental flaws in the interpretation of the concept of "evidence based treatment." Too many practitioners think the way you describe, that if something isn't fitting into the theory, the problem must be the way they're seeing it, not that there can be/are variations to how humans behave and respond to things that don't fit the theory.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 29, 2022 11:55 AM (XfBY/)

86 JT

Posted by: *checks Haloween comments for Foreign Objects* at October 29, 2022 11:56 AM (SP4pi)

87 I've bared witness to modern psychology/psychiatry ruining the lives of numerous people including my own family.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 29, 2022 11:57 AM (BdMk6)

88 When even VMI has adopted racist totalitarian poison, what are the chances of the "education"-inflicted destruction of our civil society being mitigated any time soon?

Chicken and egg dilemma, but the "therapeutic society" (whining, narcissism, envy, endless blame-shifting, all indulged and now even made the centerpiece of everything) and the ignorant racist barbarian nonsense of CRT and its related pathologies certainly seem complementary, if not actually just different parts of the same disease.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 29, 2022 11:58 AM (OTzUX)

89 I wonder if this nation's education system can be reformed. More likely it needs to be razed.
Posted by: Rick67

Raid the monasteries

Posted by: King Miklos I sees endowments with greedy eyes at October 29, 2022 11:58 AM (SP4pi)

90 Heh, yeah Ellis was a jerk, but I'd still take him over Aaron Beck any day of the week.

They're probably both in hell now, arguing over who was more right.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 29, 2022 11:50 AM (XfBY/)

Me, too, but Beck has the bigger following. I like Ellis, was sorry when he died, sent Debbie a card.
Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 11:55 AM (Zzbjj)

Beck has created much of the rot that is mental health therapy, and yeah, as noted above, psychology schools are soaking in it.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 29, 2022 11:58 AM (XfBY/)

91 >>OOPS: the university pushes back, de-activating this student's I.D. and account.

Keep it Secret, The Things We're Teaching You, Or Else. Not just a grade-school rule. It's a cult, from higher ed to kindergarten.

"Shhh, don't tell anyone" is a common denominator in cults and secret societies. Also, of course, child molestors.

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at October 29, 2022 11:58 AM (YJwUM)

92 Here is Jordon Peterson destroying Higher Ed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNIXdZ9lk_U

Posted by: rhennigantx at October 29, 2022 11:59 AM (BRHaw)

93 Raid the monasteries

Pretty much, yeah. That's what has to be done. They are wealthy and powerful and corrupt.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 29, 2022 12:00 PM (Ivdso)

94 The world has gone mad.

Posted by: Infidel at October 29, 2022 12:02 PM (Ur3ox)

95 Posted by: Reforger at October 29, 2022 11:53 AM (MM7Y

I was lucky... I was in school before those pills came out. Mom was a Teacher and had me evaluated in 7th grade, because I my grades were all over the place. They could not figure out why I got some A's... but some C's, with no rhyme nor reason as to why... all while not paying attention or doing homework.... but I read a Fiction Book a day most days.

Psych gave me a real IQ test (ones with the timer and making shapes out of blocks and such)... and then HE bothered to ask me why.... and got it out of me that I was BORED by most of school. Give me something interesting and new? I got an A... teach the same shit I learned three years prior, because other kids did not learn it the first time?... well, I'd miss some detail... C...

Now that would be ADHD... and I'd be on drugs.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 29, 2022 12:03 PM (oHd/0)

96 I feel like…E= MC^2.

Posted by: Albert Einstein, he/his at October 29, 2022 12:05 PM (4wq+Z)

97 I am not that one of the four on psych meds. My doc saw how upset I was about my weight gain and inability to lose some pounds. She suggested antidepressant so I wouldn't feel so bad about it.

Let that sink in.
A doctor, giving antidepressants to someone who is having trouble losing weight. I want to lose weight to feel better physically and be more fit. My doc thought I should just take drugs so I don't feel bad about being a fat tub of goo.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 29, 2022 12:05 PM (Wy1BU)

98 I think I got my new laptop working correctly they was I want it. What a PITA.

Posted by: Infidel at October 29, 2022 12:05 PM (Ur3ox)

99 The Psych professionals have become Enablers.
Posted by: polynikes


*******

Almost like post-modern Sin-Eaters, one could say. Justifying all manner of bad behavior and faulty self-rationalization while absolving the individual of responsibility and culpability.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 12:05 PM (kXYt5)

100 Now that would be ADHD... and I'd be on drugs.
Posted by: Romeo13

Ritalin and Mountain Dew

Fourth Grade was AWESOME

Posted by: As if I remember at October 29, 2022 12:06 PM (SP4pi)

101 Romeo- I had the same problem in 8th grade. Mom finally convinced the teacher to let me work ahead. World of difference.

Posted by: Infidel at October 29, 2022 12:07 PM (Ur3ox)

102 responsibility and culpability.
Posted by: Muldoon

Are there emojis for those big words?

Posted by: Millennial Miklos on iPhone at October 29, 2022 12:07 PM (SP4pi)

103 Beck has created much of the rot that is mental health therapy, and yeah, as noted above, psychology schools are soaking in it.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 29, 2022 11:58 AM (XfBY/)

Yep. And I like Ellis work unadulterated with "the current thing". I can't imagine him saying "yes, it's rational to think you're really a woman" to some guy.

Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 12:07 PM (Zzbjj)

104 I feel like…E= MC^2.
Posted by: Albert Einstein

I can't touch that.

Posted by: Ernest MC Rutherford at October 29, 2022 12:08 PM (SP4pi)

105 Apparently the people who owned the house behind our property have sold it to a retiring successful forestry guy. He came around to introduce himself and to tell me that he was going to take down a Hurricane Sally damaged oak either straddling or adjacent to our property line.

He seems like a nice fellow.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 29, 2022 12:09 PM (yQpMk)

106 Now that would be ADHD... and I'd be on drugs.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 29, 2022 12:03 PM (oHd/0)

I think I have ADD. But I can't take ritalin etc because of heart attack / stroke risk.
Coffee helps but I have to watch caffeine intake too.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 29, 2022 12:10 PM (5rCWs)

107 She ought to hire Harmeet Dhillon or FIRE pronto.

Posted by: Ultra pj at October 29, 2022 12:10 PM (G1dq6)

108 He was griping about the ridiculous property prices here in town, along which I nodded in sympathy. Had he come here five years ago, he would have paid half what he did for that house. Twenty years ago and he would have paid a quarter.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 29, 2022 12:11 PM (yQpMk)

109 A doctor, giving antidepressants to someone who is having trouble losing weight. I want to lose weight to feel better physically and be more fit. My doc thought I should just take drugs so I don't feel bad about being a fat tub of goo.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 29, 2022 12:05 PM (Wy1BU)

Pretty stupid, but financially sound. You'll need frequent visits and self-acceptance therapy too. It adds up.

Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 12:11 PM (Zzbjj)

110 Posted by: BurtTC at October 29, 2022 11:58 AM (XfBY/)

Yep. And I like Ellis work unadulterated with "the current thing". I can't imagine him saying "yes, it's rational to think you're really a woman" to some guy.
Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 12:07 PM (Zzbjj)

No, he'd probably smack them in the side of the head and say "I didn't ask you what makes you FEEL like you're a woman, I asked you what makes you THINK you are!"

Posted by: BurtTC at October 29, 2022 12:12 PM (XfBY/)

111 You wanna get nuts? C'mon let's get nuts!

I avoid any and all "mental" health "professionals" as they are all full of shit and only tell folks what they already know.

And the dumb asses pay them for it.

CRT is absolute nonsense and those pushing it and the folks it is pushed upon know it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 29, 2022 12:13 PM (R/m4+)

112 A doctor, giving antidepressants to someone who is having trouble losing weight

***

I remember my dr implying I may be depressed when it turns out I was anemic.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 29, 2022 12:13 PM (5rCWs)

113 My son thinks I would benefit from being KETO friendly.

I don't even know this KETO fella.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 29, 2022 12:13 PM (Wy1BU)

114 110. Indeed, that's what made him great. And his work should stand on its own, still relevant and does not require revision for a CRT/Trans world

Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 12:14 PM (Zzbjj)

115 Ah, so that's why the top video dance moves seemed so much like Go-go dancing

It was.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2022 12:14 PM (xhaym)

116 It must be nice to medical professional to get another person hooked on their craft

Posted by: Skip at October 29, 2022 12:14 PM (xhxe8)

117 I don't even know this KETO fella.
Posted by: Madamemayhem

The Kato guy didn't work out too good.

Posted by: OJ Simpson at October 29, 2022 12:15 PM (SP4pi)

118 My son thinks I would benefit from being KETO friendly.
I don't even know this KETO fella.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 29, 2022 12:13 PM (Wy1BU)


Nice guy, he lets you eat as much bacon as you want.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2022 12:15 PM (xhaym)

119 OT could use a prayer. Run over by hay wagon last night In icu 6 broke ribs lacerated liver cut up leg

Posted by: Euro at October 29, 2022 12:16 PM (7XjsN)

120 CRT is absolute nonsense and those pushing it and the folks it is pushed upon know it.

But it's profitable for them. Garland's kid and her husband are undoubtedly raking in money, and to some that's all that matters.

Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 12:16 PM (Zzbjj)

121 I remember my dr implying I may be depressed when it turns out I was anemic.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby

Most days I don't have the energy to be depressed.

Posted by: Miklos makes do at October 29, 2022 12:16 PM (SP4pi)

122 Prayers up, Euro!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 29, 2022 12:17 PM (Wy1BU)

123 Maybe it's important for such activists to have exotic hair now.

Shirtless Darrow had exotic hair.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 29, 2022 12:17 PM (MHvPC)

124 "OT could use a prayer. Run over by hay wagon last night In icu 6 broke ribs lacerated liver cut up leg"

Ouch!

Prayers sent.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 12:17 PM (uLr+K)

125 I remember my dr implying I may be depressed when it turns out I was anemic.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 29, 2022 12:13 PM (5rCWs)

This is why anybody with a lick of decency will order a CBC, Chem profile, thyroid tests, and check for other signs of a differential diagnosis.

Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 12:18 PM (Zzbjj)

126 I only occasionally stumble across the info about the % of Americans ingesting drugs for "psychological" issues, but I'm sure some here know it. Always absolutely stuns me.

The vast over-consumption of drugs for "medical" reasons is disastrous enough. But the psych thing, wow.

Still recall my (continuing) disbelief at the numbers a relative gave me 20 years ago about the % of kids in her kids' school that were on some kind of drug (mostly boys, I think). She'd read Brave New World, just like I had. Unbelievable. Drugging up kids. Just a ho-hum fact of suburban life at that point.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 29, 2022 12:19 PM (OTzUX)

127 Thanks. Helicoptered 2 hours from home. Little kid at home freaked with nana. Hopefully no surgery but t still unknown

Posted by: Euro at October 29, 2022 12:19 PM (7XjsN)

128 Euro- prayers. That has to be painful.

Posted by: Infidel at October 29, 2022 12:20 PM (Ur3ox)

129 119 OT could use a prayer. Run over by hay wagon last night In icu 6 broke ribs lacerated liver cut up leg
Posted by: Euro at October 29, 2022 12:16 PM (7XjsN)

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Bloody Amish

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 29, 2022 12:20 PM (EZvlY)

130 Run over by hay wagon last night

Prayer sent

also wonders about the ICD code for that

Posted by: Miklos wonders sometimes at October 29, 2022 12:20 PM (SP4pi)

131 My son thinks I would benefit from being KETO friendly.

I don't even know this KETO fella.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 29, 2022 12:13 PM (Wy1BU)

I haven't been following it, but apparently there is some correlation between high carb diets and depression. Lots of other research into how diet affects mental health. Still quite early in the research though, too much other crap, as noted in this thread, gets in the way of trying to find actual answers to problems.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 29, 2022 12:20 PM (XfBY/)

132 CRT is class turned race Marxism straight up

Posted by: Skip at October 29, 2022 12:21 PM (xhxe8)

133 119 OT could use a prayer. Run over by hay wagon last night In icu 6 broke ribs lacerated liver cut up leg
Posted by: Euro at October 29, 2022 12:16 PM (7XjsN)

Prayers for quick healing and good pain drugs

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 29, 2022 12:21 PM (5rCWs)

134 OT could use a prayer. Run over by hay wagon last night In icu 6 broke ribs lacerated liver cut up leg
Posted by: Euro at October 29, 2022 12:16 PM (7XjsN)

Yikes. Heal quickly, and am sending prayers.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at October 29, 2022 12:21 PM (x8Wzq)

135 Euro,

Keep us informed as you see fit.

Your child is OK besides the emotional aspect?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 12:21 PM (uLr+K)

136 Bloody Amish
Posted by: Cicero

Slow moving Domestic Terror

Posted by: Miklos knows better than to ask if an Amish woman could sew on a button at October 29, 2022 12:21 PM (SP4pi)

137 OT: re Pelosi:
So I'm hearing a story that they other guy was in his underwear, and when police arrived they were both grabbing the hammer, and that's when dePape started hitting him with the hammer, and that in the 911 call Paul called him a "friend". Sounds like some gay drug-fueled shit goin' on. Additionally, I heard that Paul had previously gotten in trouble for hiring male prostitutes.

Any of this verified?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 29, 2022 12:22 PM (ynpvh)

138 Almost like post-modern Sin-Eaters, one could say. Justifying all manner of bad behavior and faulty self-rationalization while absolving the individual of responsibility and culpability.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 12:05 PM (kXYt5)


A lot of state government social work is similar bent, and has been for a long time. I mean to start with it might have had some basis in reality, say, drug use [outside of cigarettes because that is the worst thing evar - while I was out back smoking with half the case workers] is not a reason to remove a child from a home, only danger to the child. But it got worse, and really has become enabling and rewarding really bad behavior even on the part of actual victims.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2022 12:22 PM (xhaym)

139 Euro, sorry to hear that.

Cicero and Miklos, kudos for going where my over-abundance of caution wouldn't let me go. lol

And Dr Muldoon is here to give us the ICD for that kind of event.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 29, 2022 12:22 PM (OTzUX)

140
I'm not particularly sympathetic to the Antioch student. That place has always been a commie hippie joke, full of faculty who think that Pol Pot was insufficiently faithful to the sacred memory of Karl Marx. She should have known what she was getting into, since they used to blab incessantly about social justice in their recruiting literature.

On the other hand, I once had a girlfriend with an MA from Antioch and she was a total freak between the sheets. I got lucky when she moved away and we parted amicably.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 29, 2022 12:22 PM (KYKwc)

141 "Any of this verified?"

Doesn't matter.

Say that you're the Press.....and run with it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 12:23 PM (uLr+K)

142 ... this is so good I'm gonna steal it. OK M?
Posted by: Farmer


*******

No stealing involved. Given freely, and if it helps someone find their way, God bless.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 12:24 PM (kXYt5)

143 Should head back outside, nice fall day if there is such a thing, ground is slowly becoming leaves

Posted by: Skip at October 29, 2022 12:24 PM (xhxe8)

144 Kid ok. I was working haunted trail. Huge mult wheel wagon. Reason “no capes” is good rule. A tire caught cape and pulled me under. Rolled right up middle right front.

Posted by: Euro at October 29, 2022 12:24 PM (7XjsN)

145 This is horrifying stuff. That the entire field of medicine is being quickly captured by leftists and adherents to this wicked ideology leaves me extremely uneasy.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 29, 2022 12:25 PM (sVtYq)

146 kudos for going where my over-abundance of caution wouldn't let me go. lol


According to Readers' Digest, Laughter is the Best Medicine©

Posted by: Miklos read that somewhere at October 29, 2022 12:25 PM (SP4pi)

147 She has hired an attorney to represent her concerning completion of her degree.

Hopefully she ends up with a large amount of money and the school has to go on record explaining themselves.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 29, 2022 12:25 PM (Osk33)

148 Yeah, Antioch has had the stench of idiotic totalitarian freakshow since forever. At least that was my impression early in my 29-year run. Sad, back then, there were a handful of places that had the leftist freak reputation. You could name them.

Now?

It's completely inverted - and the "list" is one or two?

Posted by: rhomboid at October 29, 2022 12:26 PM (OTzUX)

149 OT could use a prayer. Run over by hay wagon last night In icu 6 broke ribs lacerated liver cut up leg

--

Oh my! Prayers to you, Euro!

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 29, 2022 12:26 PM (sVtYq)

150 This is why anybody with a lick of decency will order a CBC, Chem profile, thyroid tests, and check for other signs of a differential diagnosis.
Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 12:18 PM (Zzbjj)

What is a CHEM profile?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 29, 2022 12:26 PM (5rCWs)

151 On a personal note, I suggested in June my wife restart taking anti-depressants she had been prescribed before we had gotten together, that she had stopped taking for reasons.

At the time I suggested it, she was absolutely in a major depressive episode, and potentially a suicide risk. I thought if she could get over this hump, she might be willing to actually work on herself, and the sources of her ongoing mental health problems.

What I will never know though, is whether FEELING better gave her the motivation to NOT address her problems, and instead run out on us, seeking solace elsewhere. Sad but true, since she won't work on herself, she's probably going to go from one disastrous situation to the next, until she runs out of people who will rescue her.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 29, 2022 12:26 PM (XfBY/)

152 "Run over by hay wagon last night In icu 6 broke ribs lacerated liver cut up leg "

We can help!

It's not your fault!

Posted by: Your Friendly Clinical Psychologist at October 29, 2022 12:27 PM (uLr+K)

153 David DePape forced his way into the home through a back entrance, Scott said. Officers arrived at the house, knocked on the front door and were let inside by an unknown person. They discovered DePape and Pelosi struggling for a hammer, and after they instructed them to drop the weapon, Scott said, DePape took the hammer and “violently attacked” Pelosi.

Stephen L. Miller@redsteeze
So we're being told by Politico that two dudes were fighting over a hammer. The cops walked up knocked on the front door and a mystery someone just went past all of that and politely opened the door while all this was happening?

-
I assume it was a platoon of Uvalde cops.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 29, 2022 12:27 PM (FVME7)

154 I figure eventually we will pull back the curtain to reveal ... Jeff Zucker

Posted by: SMOD at October 29, 2022 12:28 PM (X5CsJ)

155 Lady in Black, completely leaving aside this toxic insanity under discussion, the last 2 years has revealed so much rot and dysfunction and failure in medicine, from top to bottom, that the trans and CRT nonsense are like making the rubble bounce, as we used to say in the nuke targeting field.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 29, 2022 12:29 PM (OTzUX)

156 I'm not particularly sympathetic to the Antioch student. That place has always been a commie hippie joke, full of faculty who think that Pol Pot was insufficiently faithful to the sacred memory of Karl Marx.

Absolutely. The place has always had a reputation as a haven for commie freakdom.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 29, 2022 12:29 PM (Xrfse)

157 Old man Zucker?

I knew it!

Posted by: Shaggy, who turned Velma lesbo at October 29, 2022 12:29 PM (SP4pi)

158 Crenshaw's new hair-do ain't getting her off the bottom of the scale. Maybe an eyepatch and some black vinyl. You know like that obese black womyn 'model' that blows a flute? Might get her right up there with the Abrams creature.

Posted by: Eromero at October 29, 2022 12:29 PM (/RDPd)

159 Inspired by the Coffee Break thread, I have just made french toast to accompany my reading. Out of consideration to any sensitive souls who may be lurking, I'll keep my topping choice to myself.
No to the content.

Posted by: From about that time at October 29, 2022 12:30 PM (4780s)

160 they were not pill peddlers and I wasn't druggie

so having a couple of MD sisters came in pretty handy

yes, I'm the black sheeple of the fam

Posted by: REDACTED at October 29, 2022 12:31 PM (us2H3)

161 " Reason “no capes” is good rule. A tire caught cape and ...."

Damn!

Glad you're still on this side of the grass after that.

You have enough support system to get y'all through all this, including the recovery?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 12:31 PM (uLr+K)

162 as we used to say in the nuke targeting field.
Posted by: rhomboid

pls remove my address from file

thx

Posted by: Miklos likes fireworks, within limits at October 29, 2022 12:31 PM (SP4pi)

163 I remember my dr implying I may be depressed when it turns out I was anemic.

Yeah I had a doctor prescribe me antidepressants for my bad heart, chronic fatigue, and GERD. I'm still sick but I don't feel as bad about it, I guess?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 29, 2022 12:31 PM (Ivdso)

164 Yeah the Pelosi story is just chock full of "WTF?" from every angle - at least if one proceeds from the scant factual framework being dribbled out. The Speaker wasn't there, but her spouse was, but the primary residence of the 3rd in line to succession wasn't/isn't secured at all times, to at least the extent of one armed security guy? Completely implausible.

Even for the clownshow that is the Capitol Police.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 29, 2022 12:32 PM (OTzUX)

165 "I am woefully unexposed to the movie corpus of Shirley MacClaine."

Check out "What A Way To Go!" Silly with plenty of dancing.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 29, 2022 12:32 PM (Mzdiz)

166 It is hard, it took me about 14 years to find the right team of shrinks.

My psychiatrist was a retired USAF flight surgeon and my psychologist was a former engineer who changed fields at 50.
Posted by: sven at October 29, 2022 11:29 AM (Lzpvj)

Sounds like the time is right for an informal, but authoritative "accreditation board" to rate practitioners on their degree of unWokeness. Call it the American Association of Reality-Based psych consumers. Pitch it as a ratings organization run by users of those services, and their families.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 29, 2022 12:32 PM (ZjV05)

167 Was reading the NYPost story on David DePape.

This guy's life reads like a bad 70's TV movie.

Posted by: SMOD at October 29, 2022 12:32 PM (X5CsJ)

168 73 Remember in rock, paper, and scissors, concealed firearm always beats hammer.

Posted by: Paco Pacem at October 29, 2022 11:52 AM (exeWe)
----
Reminds me of
The cure for water on the brain is a tap on the head;
The cure for water on the knee is drainpipe trousers.
Ta-Ra!

Posted by: Ciampino remembers corny jokes from schooldays at October 29, 2022 12:32 PM (qfLjt)

169
Euro- Yikes! I would say 'Glad you are OK' ,except that, you aren't, obviously. Damned happy that it isn't worse however. Keep us posted.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2022 12:32 PM (j2XJk)

170 Posted by: Romeo13 at October 29, 2022 12:03 PM (oHd/0)

They could not figure out why I got some A's... but some C's, with no rhyme nor reason as to why... all while not paying attention or doing homework.... but I read a Fiction Book a day most days.

I liked military stuff. Read every book on it I could get. I was a WW2 expert at 12, had read at least 40 books, had maps, could show you the routes taken by almost any unit in Europe. My Grandpa was all that kid knows more about the war I fought in than I or anybody I know knows. Why you want him on drugs? Leave him alone.

I flunked 8th grade history. Hated homework. Could do math in my head and flunked math for not showing my work.

If they would have just left me in the Library I would have been fine.

Posted by: Reforger at October 29, 2022 12:33 PM (MM7Y8)

171 as we used to say in the nuke targeting field.
Posted by: rhomboid

pls remove my address from file

thx
Posted by: Miklos likes fireworks, within limits at October 29, 2022 12:31 PM (SP4pi)

Question: When the nooks start flying, do you want to be one who survives and must navigate the new normal, or would you prefer to be vaporized instantly?

Posted by: BurtTC at October 29, 2022 12:33 PM (XfBY/)

172 There is a code for EVERY damn thing.

ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code V80.02
Occupant of animal-drawn vehicle injured by fall from or being thrown from animal-drawn vehicle in noncollision accident

Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 12:33 PM (kXYt5)

173
Check out "What A Way To Go!" Silly with plenty of dancing.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist

I recommended that too! Great minds and all that!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 29, 2022 12:34 PM (Wy1BU)

174 Posted by: BurtTC at October 29, 2022 12:26 PM

Wow, that's a lot to deal with. You're doing the best you can to help her, so kudos.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 29, 2022 12:35 PM (Xrfse)

175 The Kato guy didn't work out too good.
Posted by: OJ Simpson at October 29, 2022 12:15 PM (SP4pi)

Good help is hard to find.

Posted by: Inspector Clouseau at October 29, 2022 12:35 PM (PiwSw)

176 I'm starting to think Scientology may have been onto something when it comes to hatred for psychology and psychiatry.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 29, 2022 11:44 AM (oqrJk)

Blind hog, acorn, etc.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 29, 2022 12:35 PM (ZjV05)

177 Maybe L. Ron Hubbard was right about one thing: psychologists and psychiatrists.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at October 29, 2022 12:35 PM (C1rbv)

178 BurtTC @ 151-
Her name wouldn't be Beth, by chance?

Posted by: Eromero at October 29, 2022 12:35 PM (/RDPd)

179 A lot of psychology is based around the fact that it was an attempt to treat actual distress on the part of patients with philosophy, because it was almost completely impossible to figure out what was going on in the patients' heads to cause the distress.
All the greats of early psychology reached for philosophy to find a basis for treatment, and if they were actual scientists as well, they began to check their models against reality and things like "patients getting better" as metrics, and used a lot of empiricism or horse sense first and improved models second.
There are some schools that do better than others in dealing with depression and anxiety if they can be dealt with functionally, but it is extremely hard to deal with schizophrenia and serious brain changes, since neural plasticity can only do so much.
There is a lot of new research into the brain and mood and it is pretty exciting what they think they can do. I suspect in enough time the psychologist is going to become a sort of credentialed Life Coach, and real cures will be done through actual brain intervention.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2022 12:36 PM (xhaym)

180 Muldoon.

Any codes for cranial injury involving hammer and underwear clad assailant?

Or did you already post it and I missed it?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 12:36 PM (uLr+K)

181 No nukes will fly, and the "burning times" are, inter alia, the very stuff that is the subject of KT's post here. As I've been noting ad nauseam. The "burning times" are right now.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 29, 2022 12:37 PM (OTzUX)

182 The media has lost whatever tiny amount of trust they may have once had; teachers have seen their trust eroded; the medical profession has lost trust; psychology and psychiatry has lost trust; and even pastors have lost trust.
Does that leave used car salesman as the most trusted group?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 29, 2022 12:37 PM (eGTCV)

183 According to Readers' Digest, Laughter is the Best Medicine©
Posted by: Miklos
---------

Wait until I release my humorous short story, 'The Rehab Chronicles'. There is genuinely funny stuff that goes on in hospitals. It's as if the staff are playing straight-man and have no idea...which they don't.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2022 12:37 PM (Dat+p)

184 I remember my dr implying I may be depressed when it turns out I was anemic.

-
Did they check for vampirism?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 29, 2022 12:38 PM (FVME7)

185 What is a CHEM profile?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 29, 2022 12:26 PM (5rCWs)

A chem profile tests for electrolyte balance, glucose, kidney and liver function. Thyroid tests are also helpful and these days Vitamin D levels are important, too. Testing for B12 used to be standard

Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 12:38 PM (Zzbjj)

186 Posted by: BurtTC at October 29, 2022 12:26 PM (XfBY/)

Prayers for you, and your wife.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 29, 2022 12:39 PM (5rCWs)

187 The Pelosi story makes a lot more sense f you put every noun in scare quotes. to wit:

A "friend" of Mr. Pelosi's was found in his "underwear" as the two "men" were struggling over a "hammer"

Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 12:40 PM (kXYt5)

188 166 It is hard, it took me about 14 years to find the right team of shrinks.

My psychiatrist was a retired USAF flight surgeon and my psychologist was a former engineer who changed fields at 50.
Posted by: sven at October 29, 2022 11:29 AM (Lzpvj)

Sounds like the time is right for an informal, but authoritative "accreditation board" to rate practitioners on their degree of unWokeness. Call it the American Association of Reality-Based psych consumers. Pitch it as a ratings organization run by users of those services, and their families.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 29, 2022 12:32 PM (ZjV05)
----
Before returning to the USA I always assumed that the AMA was the premier authority on medical issues and that all medical doctors belonged to it in some way or other. Then the AMA jumped on the AGW bandwagon and I realized that they did have clout but a majority of doctors did not belong to it.

Posted by: Ciampino remembers carefree days of graduate research at October 29, 2022 12:40 PM (qfLjt)

189 Did they check for vampirism?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Hush you.
*runs tongue over fangs*

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 29, 2022 12:40 PM (5rCWs)

190 Why would a 41-year-old man have a struggle getting a hammer from a man twice his age?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 29, 2022 12:40 PM (eGTCV)

191 The "burning times" are right now.

If nothing else, the kindling seems to have been lit.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 29, 2022 12:40 PM (Xrfse)

192 I liked military stuff. Read every book on it I could get. I was a WW2 expert at 12, had read at least 40 books, had maps, could show you the routes taken by almost any unit in Europe. My Grandpa was all that kid knows more about the war I fought in than I or anybody I know knows. Why you want him on drugs? Leave him alone.

I flunked 8th grade history. Hated homework. Could do math in my head and flunked math for not showing my work.

If they would have just left me in the Library I would have been fine.
Posted by: Reforger at October 29, 2022 12:33 PM (MM7Y

our school system is a complete failure for anyone who doesn't fit into the middle of Bell Curve, especially those who are far *above* the average in many ways.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 29, 2022 12:40 PM (r46W7)

193 I only occasionally stumble across the info about the % of Americans ingesting drugs for "psychological" issues, but I'm sure some here know it. Always absolutely stuns me.

The vast over-consumption of drugs for "medical" reasons is disastrous enough. But the psych thing, wow.

Still recall my (continuing) disbelief at the numbers a relative gave me 20 years ago about the % of kids in her kids' school that were on some kind of drug (mostly boys, I think). She'd read Brave New World, just like I had. Unbelievable. Drugging up kids. Just a ho-hum fact of suburban life at that point.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 29, 2022 12:19 PM (OTzUX)

I think it's one of the main reasons we haven't seen an armed rebellion, or even tarring and feathering.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 29, 2022 12:41 PM (BdMk6)

194 I remind, re 'Rachael' Levine: After completing her training in
pediatrics and psychiatry at New York City's Mount Sinai Hospital...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2022 12:41 PM (Dat+p)

195 The "burning times" are right now.
Posted by: rhomboid

*******

Yeah, THIS is exactly what cvil war looks like.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 12:42 PM (kXYt5)

196 OT could use a prayer. Run over by hay wagon last night In icu 6 broke ribs lacerated liver cut up leg
Posted by: Euro at October 29, 2022 12:16 PM (7XjsN)

Holy crap! Get well soon, hear?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 29, 2022 12:43 PM (ZjV05)

197 Burning right now. Mutilating kids, killing babies, yeah, sounds burning to me.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 29, 2022 12:43 PM (MxRrv)

198 191 The "burning times" are right now.

If nothing else, the kindling seems to have been lit.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 29, 2022 12:40 PM (Xrfse)

well then the trick is to make sure more of their stuff burns than ours.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 29, 2022 12:43 PM (r46W7)

199 "these days Vitamin D levels are important, too. Testing for B12 used to be standard"

Been on Omeprazol for decades for GERD, which can lead to reduced levels of D and B12.

On a whim, I asked them to do a check during a PSA test, and yup, bottom of normal limit for both.

OTC supplements for 90 days and the next PSA draw showed them both sitting happily around the middle of the normal range.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 12:44 PM (uLr+K)

200 The media has lost whatever tiny amount of trust they may have once had; teachers have seen their trust eroded; the medical profession has lost trust; psychology and psychiatry has lost trust; and even pastors have lost trust.
Does that leave used car salesman as the most trusted group?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 29, 2022 12:37 PM (eGTCV)

The planet is shit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 29, 2022 12:45 PM (VwHCD)

201
Any codes for cranial injury involving hammer and underwear clad assailant?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

********

II'd go with this one:

ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code W27.8XXA
Contact with other nonpowered hand tool, initial encounter

Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 12:46 PM (kXYt5)

202 as we used to say in the nuke targeting field.
Posted by: rhomboid

Horseshoes, hand grenades, and nukes?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 29, 2022 12:46 PM (FVME7)

203 " I remind, re 'Rachael' Levine: After completing her training in
pediatrics and psychiatry at New York City's Mount Sinai Hospital..."

Is that the dude what likes to wear dresses and say he's a woman?

Unlike Klinger, who simply liked to wear women's clothing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 12:46 PM (uLr+K)

204 153 David DePape forced his way into the home through a back entrance, Scott said. "

I think the fight started when Paul P. tried to force his way into David DePape through the back entrance.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 29, 2022 12:47 PM (r46W7)

205 "ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code W27.8XXA
Contact with other nonpowered hand tool, initial encounter"

I can work with that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 12:47 PM (uLr+K)

206
The planet is shit.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 29, 2022 12:45 PM (VwHCD)

oh the planet is fine! it's just the miserable people crawling on its surface that are the problem.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 29, 2022 12:48 PM (r46W7)

207 oh the planet is fine! it's just the miserable people crawling on its surface that are the problem.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 29, 2022 12:48 PM


Planet Earth has a carbon unit infestation.

Posted by: Veeger at October 29, 2022 12:49 PM (bVYXr)

208 The diagnosis code for pure fucking nuts is 131313.cuckoobananas.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 29, 2022 12:49 PM (FVME7)

209 OTC supplements for 90 days and the next PSA draw showed them both sitting happily around the middle of the normal range.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 12:44 PM (uLr+K)

A lot of medical people say " you should get everything you need from your diet", to which I say bullshit. Many people do not, and that includes kids.

Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 12:49 PM (Zzbjj)

210 the truth in a dim scandal is never as forthcoming as the lies in a Republican scandal

Posted by: REDACTED at October 29, 2022 12:49 PM (us2H3)

211 The planet is shit.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 29, 2022 12:45 PM (VwHCD)


The planet is fine, most of the people are OK but in a reaction to the political situation which is being driven by Ruprecht the Monkey Boy, who is being managed by his perverted cousin, and their banker Mr Drysdale.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2022 12:50 PM (xhaym)

212 man has little chance in hell of lasting another thousand years

a muffled fart in history

Posted by: REDACTED at October 29, 2022 12:52 PM (us2H3)

213

PORTLAND, Ore — U.S. Department of Homeland Security officials in the Trump administration compiled extensive intelligence dossiers on people who were arrested, even for minor offenses, during Black Lives Matter protests in Oregon.

Ben Wizner, an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union's free speech, privacy and technology project, said the report indicates leaders of the Department of Homeland Security wanted to inflate the risk caused by protesters in Portland.

“We have a dark history of intelligence agencies collecting dossiers on protesters,” Wizner said over the phone from New York, referring to domestic spying in the 1960s and 1970s against civil rights activists, Vietnam War protesters and others.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 29, 2022 12:52 PM (63Dwl)

214 Why would a 41-year-old man have a struggle getting a hammer from a man twice his age?

*******

Maybe Pelosi is like that Teeter dude who hawks his inversion table on TV. He seems tough.

Or Jack LaLanne.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 12:52 PM (kXYt5)

215 A lot of medical people say " you should get everything you need from your diet", to which I say bullshit. Many people do not, and that includes kids.
Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 12:49 PM (Zzbjj)


Don't eat kids, they are bad for your health


What?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2022 12:52 PM (xhaym)

216 Before returning to the USA I always assumed that the AMA was the premier authority on medical issues and that all medical doctors belonged to it in some way or other. Then the AMA jumped on the AGW bandwagon and I realized that they did have clout but a majority of doctors did not belong to it.
Posted by: Ciampino remembers carefree days of graduate research at October 29, 2022 12:40 PM (qfLjt)

This is why I suggest it be a "consumer-driven" rating body. Make it a professional association, and the Woke Nazis will work to revoke the credentials of members, and drum them out of the industry.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 29, 2022 12:53 PM (ZjV05)

217 Didn't Jack LaLanne swim across New York Harbor towing a barge, in his eighties?

Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 12:53 PM (kXYt5)

218 ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code W27.8XXA
Contact with other nonpowered hand tool, initial encounter
Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 12:46 PM (kXYt5)


If he was hit twice, would that call for the code for "subsequent encounter" as well?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2022 12:53 PM (xhaym)

219 Steve Scalise, attempted assassination by james t. hodgkinson _immediate EMS and ER saved his life from gunshot wounds - 3 to 5 others wounded, 2 of them defending officers
Search term; 'Steve Scalise shot by'

CBS report:
Court records show Hodgkinson arrested in 2006 for misdemeanor charge of battery. Hodgkinson's former attorney, did not remember the circumstances of the charge told CBS News Hodgkinson never did anything violent. The charge was dismissed by a judge.

Washington Examiner report:
Hodgkinson had a number of run-ins with police,... battery - grabbed his daughter by the hair and "pulled her to the floor"...used "bodily force" to enter his neighbor's house. ...daughter and a friend tried to leave in a car, but Hodgkinson punched her in the face after using a pocketknife to cut the seatbelt. ..."accidentally struk her [neighbor] dog while it was sleeping in the roadway."...shots fired in the trees near his home, - told [by police] not to shoot his gun there anymore. St. Clair County court records, Hodgkinson charged ... over the years, resisting a peace officer, fleeing police, damaging a motor vehicle and driving under the influence

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 29, 2022 12:54 PM (MxRrv)

220 "Don't eat kids, they are bad for your health "

Let's wait for the cooking thread.

Maybe CBD has a Sous Vid recipe for them.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 12:55 PM (uLr+K)

221 Didn't Jack LaLanne swim across New York Harbor towing a barge, in his eighties?
Posted by: Muldoon at October

I seem to recall Mao making an annual swim across the Yangtze.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 29, 2022 12:56 PM (eGTCV)

222 214 Why would a 41-year-old man have a struggle getting a hammer from a man twice his age?

*******
Maybe Pelosi is like that Teeter dude who hawks his inversion table on TV. He seems tough.

Or Jack LaLanne.
Posted by: Muldoon
---------------------

Or Donald Trump

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 29, 2022 12:56 PM (MxRrv)

223 Patients are being taught "learned helplessness"

= = =

Holy jaysus, did he say that out loud?!

Posted by: BLM at October 29, 2022 12:57 PM (ZC8hN)

224 215. Haha. Many kids eat very poorly, and are essentially starch-atarians. When I was a kid, nearly everyone I knew took a multi or ate Total cereal in the morning. Now a lot of them eat bagels with jam for breakfast, bread and sunflower butter for lunch, and something equally useless for dinner. It's "convenient", but parents' lives are a bit too convenient when it comes to nutrition. KIds should not be living like yuppies on takeout food

Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 12:57 PM (Zzbjj)

225 Maybe Paul Pelosi developed grip strength opening jars for Nancy.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 29, 2022 12:58 PM (eGTCV)

226 Why would a 41-year-old man have a struggle getting a hammer from a man twice his age?

*******

Maybe Pelosi is like that Teeter dude who hawks his inversion table on TV. He seems tough.

Or Jack LaLanne.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 12:52 PM (kXYt5)
***
I'm thinking Big Jim Slade.
That guy's gotta be ancient by now.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 29, 2022 12:58 PM (anj39)

227 I seem to recall Mao making an annual swim across the Yangtze.

Impressive. Just think of the floating corpses he had to fight through.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 29, 2022 12:58 PM (Xrfse)

228 LaLanne swam from Alcatraz to shore wearing chains.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 29, 2022 12:58 PM (MxRrv)

229 Actually, the code for pure fucking nuts would be:

ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code T78.05XA

Sexual intercourse with tree nuts and seeds, initial encounter

Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 12:58 PM (kXYt5)

230 219. I have no doubt that the fibbies and DNC has no qualms against recruiting people like this for their street action agenda. This can be contracted to Arabella

Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 12:59 PM (Zzbjj)

231 Didn't Jack LaLanne swim across New York Harbor towing a barge, in his eighties?
Posted by: Muldoon at October

I seem to recall Mao making an annual swim across the Yangtze.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 29, 2022 12:56 PM (eGTCV)

Even more spectacular. He swam to Alcatraz Island .

Posted by: polynikes at October 29, 2022 01:00 PM (JFJ0Q)

232 Sexual intercourse with tree nuts and seeds, initial encounter

That's hot.

Posted by: Zombie Euell Gibbons at October 29, 2022 01:00 PM (Xrfse)

233 Even more spectacular. He swam to Alcatraz Island .
Posted by: polynikes at October 29, 2022 01:00 PM (JFJ0Q)

A long swim from China.

Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 01:00 PM (Zzbjj)

234 I'm guessing that the code exists not because someone MIGHT suffer from this event.

But because someone already HAS suffered from it.

Sort of like the warning on a handgun muzzle about not placing in mouth,.

And McDonald's coffee for being hot.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 01:01 PM (uLr+K)

235 ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code T78.05XA

Sexual intercourse with tree nuts and seeds, initial encounter
Posted by: Muldoon
-----

I'll never be able to look on pecan pie the same way again.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2022 01:01 PM (O8Vti)

236 It's been said that most psychologists are nuts and got into it to understand themselves. So I suppose it follows that the woke cult would make big inroads there.

Posted by: CppThis at October 29, 2022 01:01 PM (UewuT)

237 Speaking of pure fucking nuts . . .

Elizabeth Warren Brags: Dems Fight Inflation By Raising Taxes…

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 29, 2022 01:02 PM (FVME7)

238 Even more spectacular. He swam to Alcatraz Island .
Posted by: polynikes at October 29, 2022 01:00 PM (JFJ0Q)


I wonder how many cons he passed going the other way?

Posted by: Diogenes at October 29, 2022 01:03 PM (anj39)

239 Contact with other nonpowered hand tool, initial encounter
Posted by: Muldoon

Yu go now!

Posted by: Madame Fong's Holistic Massage Therapy Centre at October 29, 2022 01:03 PM (SP4pi)

240 Schools of psychology do their recruiting at Burning Man.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 29, 2022 01:04 PM (eGTCV)

241 ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code T78.05XA

Sexual intercourse with tree nuts and seeds, initial encounter
Posted by: Muldoon

Med School Botany Class musta been fun

Posted by: It's Nawlins, dawlin' at October 29, 2022 01:05 PM (SP4pi)

242 A lot of my friends were just in their underwear wrestling with me when I was growing up. We fought over hammers all the time. It was no big deal.

Nothing about this story makes sense. Nothing. This is some Bob Crane level of perversion shit.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 29, 2022 01:08 PM (KFhLj)

243 I see London, I see France

Posted by: dartist at October 29, 2022 01:10 PM (9X/y4)

244 Nothing about this story makes sense. Nothing. This is some Bob Crane level of perversion shit.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 29, 2022 01:08 PM (KFhLj)

Nothing about it does. I can't even picture SM enthusiasts going at with hammers.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 29, 2022 01:11 PM (eGTCV)

245 A friend, who's not really completely human, used to do the Alcatraz swim (I think they swim out from the Marina, around the island, and back). In a speedo, with goggles.

The funny part was always when a park ranger would be at a certain point (I think north side) explaining how there were no successful escapes from the island, as the swimmers were proceeding very slowly (against a strong current) past the place, in the distance.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 29, 2022 01:11 PM (OTzUX)

246 I see London, I see France
Posted by: dartist

Paul
maul

dance
Underpants

Posted by: Miklos can't read the assembly instructions for this at October 29, 2022 01:12 PM (SP4pi)

247 A friend, who's not really completely human, used to do the Alcatraz swim (I think they swim out from the Marina, around the island, and back). In a speedo, with goggles.

Isn't there a shark danger?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 29, 2022 01:13 PM (eGTCV)

248 Posted by: CppThis at October 29, 2022 01:01

I think you win the prize
Can't believe I didn't think of that

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 29, 2022 01:13 PM (xhxe8)

249
Elizabeth Warren Brags: Dems Fight Inflation By Raising Taxes…
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
-----

Ah. It's the Dem mantra, 'We can tax our way to prosperity!'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2022 01:13 PM (Dat+p)

250 Nothing about it does. I can't even picture SM enthusiasts going at with hammers.
Posted by: That NLurker guy

Don't hurt 'im, Hammer!

Posted by: Miklos vaguely recalls the 80s at October 29, 2022 01:14 PM (SP4pi)

251 "Isn't there a shark danger?"

That's what the chains are for.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 01:14 PM (uLr+K)

252

What a headline:

Pelosi attack shocks country on edge about democracy threats

https://tinyurl.com/ytphzv6r

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 29, 2022 01:14 PM (63Dwl)

253 244 Nothing about this story makes sense. Nothing. This is some Bob Crane level of perversion shit.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 29, 2022 01:08 PM (KFhLj)


I think it was just a game of Truth or Dare that got out off control.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 29, 2022 01:14 PM (BdMk6)

254 I understand that these therapists are being taught to impart learned helplessness on their patients.

Is there also a small subset of therapists trained to teach the sons and daughters of the privileged elite how to be complete assholes? It sure would explain Hunter Biden.

Posted by: JB1000 at October 29, 2022 01:15 PM (IbVYw)

255
Don't hurt 'im, Hammer!
Posted by: Miklos
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Lately, I'm trying to maintain a low profile.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2022 01:16 PM (esps4)

256 IIRC, Antioch University was a particular target of NR back in the 1980s because it was promoting that concept of continual 'asking permissions' for each step of elevating a co-ed sexual encounter - that the partner needed permission at each step of elevation. SNL even did a mocking skit of it.

What was astonishing back then has become mainstream now, and in the space of merely a single generation. Reagan was right: if we don't teach our children, then they will.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at October 29, 2022 01:16 PM (K58O6)

257 Y'all let the government steal ya kids every morning. Just sayin
Brown vs Board of Ed
Carter administration created Dept of Ed
Forced school busing
Teachers Unions

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit! at October 29, 2022 01:20 PM (+Hs6W)

258 That's what the chains are for.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

When Corn Pop tried to feed those twelve year olds to the sharks, I said C'mon man! Charlie the shark tuna can't smell anyway, not like a truck driver from Scranton Delaware. So I ran the chain in for a touchdown at the Ginsberg.

Posted by: Joe is ready for his post-nap nap at October 29, 2022 01:20 PM (SP4pi)

259 Shut down all the schools. Now. Immediately. Take away all accreditation. Start the re-accreditation process over again with hiring interviews (using lie detectors among other tools) to weed out anyone with communist ideas/sympathies. Thoroughly weed out any texts with the same extreme prejudice, i.e., no more Howard Zinn-like communist indoctrination in any curriculum or course of study. Eliminate any course of study that has the word "Studies" in it, because THAT ain't education.


The very first thing you do when ingesting poison and coming to realize it is, STOP TAKING THE POISON! (I know this - I was a Pre-Med for crying out loud).


Our schools aren't teaching anything anyway other than leftist indoctrination. As far as traditional subjects go, they are churning out generations of illiterate and innumerate students, who's only attribute, other than stupidity, is high self-esteem. We shut down for 2 years over covid anyway so now let's really accomplish something worthwhile fighting a REAL infection - the infection of communism - and save our kids. The country's survival depends on this.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 29, 2022 01:21 PM (iHAQn)

260 I had some counseling after losing the late Mrs. Borgia and found it helpful. I don't recall that politics ever came up.

Maybe I just got lucky.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 29, 2022 01:22 PM (bW8dp)

261 I'm Gumby Damnit!
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When did you get out dude? Lets go get a beer!

Posted by: Pokey at October 29, 2022 01:23 PM (9X/y4)

262 Patients are being taught "learned helplessness" by focusing on microaggressions, racism, etc.

This is also being trained into employees in corporations through the D.I.E. training.

Mandatory training I completed just last month was all about microaggressions and triggering and every other possible offense people could feel. But, the training was very explicit about saying that the only groups of people who could be "victims" of these offenses were "marginalized" or "under-represented" groups. Implicit to those statements is that I, as a white male, could not be a "victim" of any type of offense.

This shit is all over our culture, infecting every institution and corporation in the country. All about division and pressuring people to feel offended about anything and everything.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 29, 2022 01:23 PM (Do5/p)

263 Listening to Levin some this week it's the Teacher union Communists running ads in Pa

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 29, 2022 01:23 PM (xhxe8)

264 > As one of the kids studied in the 70's for ADD and prescribed speed to "fix" me I would never take my kid to a Psycologist.

Psychiatrist, you mean? I don't think psychologists can prescribe drugs, although I guess that might be different in some states?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 29, 2022 01:24 PM (bW8dp)

265 Y'all let the government steal ya kids every morning. Just sayin
Forced school busing
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit! at October 29, 2022 01:20 PM (+Hs6W)

Concur. If the government sent a little yellow bus around each morning to collect people's guns and brought them back each afternoon people would refuse such a transgression.

But it's ok to take their kids off to the grooming centers because that is how it is done.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 29, 2022 01:24 PM (R/m4+)

266 Kids - and adults - need more strength training, aerobic exercise, and a better diet. For most people, that would do a lot more good than a pill regimen.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 29, 2022 01:27 PM (KAi1n)

267 "But, the training was very explicit about saying that the only groups of people who could be "victims" of these offenses were "marginalized" or "under-represented" groups. "

Look around the room.


If there are not a majority of the group that looks like you...
you're a minority.

With all the privileges that the stupid training suggests that under represented minorities are entitled to.

Unless you're an over represented minority.
(Is that even possible?)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 01:27 PM (uLr+K)

268 264. True. But some psychogists have professional telationships with pediatricians and GPs to accomplosh this. Often they have clients sign consent forms allowing this collaboration

Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 01:27 PM (Zzbjj)

269 Is Skip in the house? Because I fear he will be disappointed I once again stole away his FIRSTie.

Posted by: kallisto at October 29, 2022 01:28 PM (dCxaZ)

270 Psychiatrist, you mean? I don't think psychologists can prescribe drugs, although I guess that might be different in some states?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Oh sure they can.

Posted by: Big Pharma has Influence at October 29, 2022 01:28 PM (SP4pi)

271 232 heh good ole Euell Gibbons. I thnk he and Burl Ives were drinking buddies sitting around listening to Mitch Miller records

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit! at October 29, 2022 01:28 PM (+Hs6W)

272 266. Yes!

Posted by: CN at October 29, 2022 01:29 PM (Zzbjj)

273 > Oh sure they can.
Posted by: Big Pharma has Influence at October 29, 2022 01:28 PM (SP4pi)

Not in this state.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 29, 2022 01:30 PM (bW8dp)

274 Counselors are being taught not to be objective and neutral with their clients, but rather to view the emotionally vulnerable people who come to see them as opportunities to imprint and spread "Social Justice" ideology. In this video I provide shocking examples of the current state of counselor training at an American university.

And this is just a small example of the consequences of ceding the culture war to the Left and the Left succeeding in their long march through the institutions. They now have complete control of every institution in the country and are transforming them from within... schools, colleges, media, "entertainment", government, journalism, healthcare, corporations, sports, the military, you name it.

Every institution in the country is now controlled by people pushing this DIE and "social justice" shit. The only way to stop it and reverse this movement is to develop an army of Ron Desantis types, who not only fight to stop it, but legislate and reverse it. Words AND action are needed. Need conservatives in positions of power and influence in not just government, but schools, school boards, healthcare industry, company HR departments, etc.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 29, 2022 01:31 PM (Do5/p)

275 heh good ole Euell Gibbons. I thnk he and Burl Ives were drinking buddies sitting around listening to Mitch Miller records
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit!
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I met Burl Ives once, in a record shop. He and the owner were sitting around talking, and listening to classical music records.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2022 01:33 PM (Dat+p)

276 New thread up for Gardeners, Putterers and Adventurers!

Posted by: kallisto at October 29, 2022 01:33 PM (dCxaZ)

277 Kids - and adults - need more strength training, aerobic exercise, and a better diet. For most people, that would do a lot more good than a pill regimen.
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When I was in HS we had to pass minor routines in track and field, gymnastics, swimming (nude, but that's another topic) flag football, baseball, rope climbing and probably a few I forgot. We were always moving.

Posted by: dartist at October 29, 2022 01:34 PM (9X/y4)

278 And this is just a small example of the consequences of ceding the culture war to the Left



It is not so much ceding the culture war (bad as that is) as it is paying for it via gummint and inflated health and education costs.

Posted by: Miklos does Math (but not here, because Rules) at October 29, 2022 01:35 PM (SP4pi)

279 I met Burl Ives once, in a record shop. He and the owner were sitting around talking, and listening to classical music records.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

You smashed that old commie's guitar, didn't you?

Posted by: Miklos expects no less at October 29, 2022 01:36 PM (SP4pi)

280 I met Burl Ives once, in a record shop. He and the owner were sitting around talking, and listening to classical music records.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2022 01:33 PM (Dat+p)

I liked him in "Night Gallery".

He played a vengeful father setting up his stripper daughter's killer.

I don't think he had to act, just be his fat old nasty self.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 29, 2022 01:37 PM (R/m4+)

281 59 dead/150 injured in S. Korea Halloween Festival Stampede.

Sun-UK

https://tinyurl.com/3vd4wt4c

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 29, 2022 01:39 PM (yHsuS)

282 261 Pokey

Yeah parolled from Plesure Island . Pinocchio says hi.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit! at October 29, 2022 01:40 PM (+Hs6W)

283 Bob Fosse was the director and choreographer for Sweet Charity. Shirley MacLaine was just the dancer.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 29, 2022 01:43 PM (7B5FA)

284 I don't think he had to act, just be his fat old nasty self. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 29, 2022 01:37 PM (R/m4+)

Big Daddy in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 29, 2022 01:44 PM (7B5FA)

285 Yeah parolled from Plesure Island . Pinocchio says hi.
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit!

Better than Pleather Island.

Posted by: Rich Corinthian Miklos at October 29, 2022 01:46 PM (SP4pi)

286 275

I just remember 'Have a Holly Jolly Christmas' was playing when my Sicilian father and brother beat up my sister's estranged husband and fellow rookie cop on Christmas Eve at our house. Heh heh

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit! at October 29, 2022 01:46 PM (+Hs6W)

287 I had some counseling after losing the late Mrs. Borgia and found it helpful. I don't recall that politics ever came up. Maybe I just got lucky. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 29, 2022 01:22 PM (bW8dp)

There are great counselors out there. Most of them have some kind of faith grounding.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 29, 2022 01:46 PM (7B5FA)

288
You smashed that old commie's guitar, didn't you?
Posted by: Miklos


I don't think he had to act, just be his fat old nasty self.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
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Mendacity...I can smell the mendacity.

Posted by: Burl Ives at October 29, 2022 01:48 PM (YWLil)

289 285
You are correct sir! In my best Ed McMahon voice

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit! at October 29, 2022 01:48 PM (+Hs6W)

290 But it's ok to take their kids off to the grooming centers because that is how it is done.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
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There was a time when teachers were trustworthy and not indoctrinaires. They made the transition under our very noses.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 29, 2022 01:50 PM (MxRrv)

291 AOC Claims Record Inflation Has Nothing To Do With Democrat Policies...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 29, 2022 11:26 AM

Well, she's right. Record inflation has to do with WEF policies that are being implemented in every Western nation, including the USA. In the USA, the policies are put into action by the Deep State, which includes the entire Democrat Party and the GOP establishment.

That said, I'm sure that's not what she meant when she said record inflation has nothing to do with Democrat policies.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 29, 2022 01:58 PM (Do5/p)

292 Popular clinical psychology goes off the rails when it becomes about validation and claims to be nonjudgmental. If there's no objective upon which to judge, the only reference point becomes the individual himself, severed from the rest of mankind.

I always found it deliciously ironic that people would seek help with their self-esteem. You want better self-esteem? Do something estimable. Why go out and buy a self-help book written by someone else.

Live life outside your own mind-cocoon.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 11:27 AM (kXYt5)


This is so spot on. Psychology has gone from getting the patient as normal as possible to getting the patient as happy as possible even if it was just catering to their delusions since "normal" is a social construct. I took Psych in college back in the '70s and this had already begun then.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 29, 2022 01:58 PM (yQpMk)

293 This began with the delisting of homosexuality as a mental illness by a show of hands.

There's some science for you.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 29, 2022 02:01 PM (yQpMk)

294 Leftists lie with the ease you breath
D. Prager

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 29, 2022 02:03 PM (xhxe8)

295 New development in Pelosi "attack."

David DePape forced his way into the home through a back entrance, Scott said. Officers arrived at the house, knocked on the front door and were let inside by an unknown person. They discovered DePape and Pelosi struggling for a hammer, and after they instructed them to drop the weapon, Scott said, DePape took the hammer and "violently attacked" Pelosi.

https://is.gd/E4Ejw2

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 29, 2022 02:05 PM (ju2Fy)

296 New development in Pelosi "attack."


They have erased the initial report that DePape was in his underwear to make it seem more like a "political" attack.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 29, 2022 02:07 PM (yQpMk)

297 So, Depape broke into Pelosi's house because his boyfriend was hooking up with Paul?

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 29, 2022 02:07 PM (ju2Fy)

298 AOC Claims Record Inflation Has Nothing To Do With Democrat Policies...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 29, 2022 11:26 AM
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AOC, bringing that economics degree to bear.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 29, 2022 02:08 PM (YqDXo)

299 So, Depape broke into Pelosi's house because his boyfriend was hooking up with Paul?
Posted by: olddog in mo at October 29, 2022 02:07 PM (ju2Fy)



The Aristocrats!

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 29, 2022 02:08 PM (yQpMk)

300 294
I call them shapeshifters some of them truly seem possessed

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit! at October 29, 2022 02:08 PM (+Hs6W)

301 Grump, it was probably the "unknown person" who opened the door for the cops that was in underwear.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 29, 2022 02:09 PM (ju2Fy)

302 They have erased the initial report that DePape was in his underwear to make it seem more like a "political" attack.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 29, 2022 02:07 PM (yQpMk)
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In his underwear?? Paul, is there anything you need to tell us?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 29, 2022 02:09 PM (YqDXo)

303 So....three people at a minimum inside the Pelosi residence upon the Police arriving?

Nope....totally normal.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 02:13 PM (uLr+K)

304 When I was in HS we had to pass minor routines in track and field, gymnastics, swimming (nude, but that's another topic) flag football, baseball, rope climbing and probably a few I forgot. We were always moving.
Posted by: dartist at October 29, 2022 01:34 PM (9X/y4)
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Same here (except for the nude part). We also played handball, tennis, soccer, did wrestling, and perhaps one of the most valuable routine, tumbling. Knowing how to hit and roll saved me from injury any number of times (including when I dropped a motorcycle, albeit a low speed).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 29, 2022 02:13 PM (YqDXo)

305 They have erased the initial report that DePape was in his underwear to make it seem more like a "political" attack.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 29, 2022 02:07 PM (yQpMk)
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In his underwear?? Paul, is there anything you need to tell us?
____________

OTOH, if Paul was getting frisky at 82, I'm impressed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 29, 2022 02:14 PM (YqDXo)

306 They have erased the initial report that DePape was in his underwear to make it seem more like a "political" attack.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 29, 2022 02:07 PM (yQpMk)

The media is desperate to find proof that white folk are dangerous.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 29, 2022 02:18 PM (VdGjU)

307 I'm amazed our country hasn't splintered yet.

Soon?

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at October 29, 2022 02:19 PM (vcbvD)

308 Depape, the underwear hammerer.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 29, 2022 02:21 PM (MxRrv)

309 I gotta admit, with the attack on Paul Pelosi, Fetterman's debate performance seems to have disappeared from the nation's focus.

Funny, that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 02:24 PM (uLr+K)

310 The gigolo, in the foyer, with the hammer.
I won Clue!

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 29, 2022 02:24 PM (7Fj9P)

311 OK, I know it's a cliche, but I'll say it anyway.

The following tweet by Kari Lake is savage:

https://tinyurl.com/mtp9m8ky

Posted by: kallisto at October 29, 2022 02:25 PM (dCxaZ)

312 With reports of kinky goings on at the Pelosi mansion I now have a most unfortunate image of Nancy in fishnet stockiings and wielding a whip.
Blech.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 29, 2022 02:27 PM (VdGjU)

313 🎵 I gave my love a cherry
That had no stone
I gave my love a chicken
That had no bone
I told my love a story
That had no end
I gave my love a baby
With no crying. 🎵

Posted by: Zombie Burl Ives at October 29, 2022 02:27 PM (Xrfse)

314 Live life outside your own mind-cocoon.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 11:27 AM (kXYt5)


Absolutely this!
We only get one shot at this life. Some days will be great, some less so but damn, don't waste it. Get out and live it.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 29, 2022 02:28 PM (anj39)

315 The Pelosi case is crying out for Sherlock Holmes.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 29, 2022 02:29 PM (VdGjU)

316 Just a half hour into Putin's speech last week. Harder to get it all because it's a much more informal style than usual - he's usually very smooth but reads his text verbatim, at a moderate pace, this time he's constantly making asides, and lots of quickly delivered slang.

Pretty much the partly delusional Russian bit about a "multi-polar" vs. uni-polar world, a ridiculous and despicable bit of butthurt about the garbage Soleimani being taken out, and the more reasonable cultural backlash (traditional values vs. the fairly recent toxic idiocy coming out of the US, mostly, which we all know about). He quotes Solzhenitsyn's Harvard speech on western cultural chauvinism, which is something to behold for those who lived/worked the Cold War.

Much more to go, and I think with the Q&A the whole thing went over 3 hours. Trump-like in this respect - he also has a long history of taking any/all questions at his annual New Year's press conference, including stuff that was of course unthinkable in the old days. Doesn't look a bit ill to me, as far as that goes.

Hope to have more on it later.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 29, 2022 02:30 PM (OTzUX)

317 The Case of the Pervert Politician

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 29, 2022 02:33 PM (VdGjU)

318 More than 1 in 4 of US Women, takes some form of Psych drug.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 29, 2022 11:51 AM

Combine that with how many women take some form of "birth control" drug. And likely the vast majority of US women are taking drugs. And that does not even include the "wine moms".

Combine alcohol with "birth control" drugs with psych drugs and there's the modern American woman. And they wonder why MGTOW has been a movement for years.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 29, 2022 02:36 PM (Do5/p)

319 The Giant Democrat of Sumatra

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 29, 2022 02:36 PM (VdGjU)

320 https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/by royal decree biden regime tackles junk fees
https://tinyurl.com/yc2u4u3w

Thing I notice from Sundowner and any other old time Socialism is they are still hooked on old time Marxism class warfare

Posted by: Skip at October 29, 2022 02:40 PM (xhxe8)

321 Hope to have more on it later.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 29, 2022 02:30 PM (OTzUX)


Thanxs for the insights rhomboid. I appreciate it.
I need to look up the multi-polar/unipolar thing. I wrote in my grad thesis a discussion of multi-polar vs bi-polar nation state strategies in a nuclear world.
I thought it was fascinating. My faculty advisor thought is was...sufficient.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 29, 2022 02:41 PM (anj39)

322 If the Pelosi case does prove to be about kink will there be pouncing and seizing?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 29, 2022 02:42 PM (VdGjU)

323 Hope to have more on it later.
Posted by: rhomboid
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Super.
Are you going to put it here or we have to chase you down?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 29, 2022 02:44 PM (MxRrv)

324 Still recall my (continuing) disbelief at the numbers a relative gave me 20 years ago about the % of kids in her kids' school that were on some kind of drug (mostly boys, I think). She'd read Brave New World, just like I had. Unbelievable. Drugging up kids. Just a ho-hum fact of suburban life at that point.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 29, 2022 12:19 PM

In the 90s, the push was to have all kids on ADD or ADHD drugs. Mostly boys. Girls they pushed to get on "birth control" drugs.

Now, in addition to those, they have further drugs boys with the justification of "toxic masculinity" and the need to feminize them even more. And now they go even further with both boys and girls with pushing gender dysphoria and chemical castration and genital mutilation.

Our culture has been evil and sick for decades. If they can't kill them in abortion or indoctrinate them, they will fuck them up with drugs, sexualize them or chemically neuter them for life.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 29, 2022 02:50 PM (Do5/p)

325 Our culture has been evil and sick for decades.

No denying that. We observe the evidence of this every single day.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 29, 2022 02:54 PM (Xrfse)

326
The following tweet by Kari Lake is savage:

https://tinyurl.com/mtp9m8ky
Posted by: kallisto
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A cruel Kari Lake is the best Kari Lake.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2022 03:02 PM (95EcE)

327 If the Pelosi case does prove to be about kink will there be pouncing and seizing?
Posted by: That NLurker
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Pelosi has earned a spot in the pantheon of Democrats ensconced the psycho-sexual hall of fame. The list is long...very long.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2022 03:05 PM (wQZYr)

328 326 The following tweet by Kari Lake is savage:
https://tinyurl.com/mtp9m8ky
Posted by: kallisto
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A cruel Kari Lake is the best Kari Lake.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 29, 2022 03:02 PM (95EcE)

Love it.
"Liz Cheney
Defeated member of Congress (WY-AL)"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 29, 2022 03:07 PM (ynpvh)

329 I watched a podcast the other day featuring the hosts of a podcast called Blurry Creatures. They claim the events of Genesis 6 when the Sons of God mated with the daughters of men, damaged human DNA.
I found it interesting but not at all convincing.
It would, however, explain Democrats.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 29, 2022 03:08 PM (VdGjU)

330 "The following tweet by Kari Lake is savage:

https://tinyurl.com/mtp9m8ky
Posted by: kallisto
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A cruel Kari Lake is the best Kari Lake."

Wait a minute...
Has ace and Kari ever been seen in the same room at the same time?
Not making accusations, just asking questions.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 03:10 PM (uLr+K)

331 That last Twatter thread is certainly bearing out the maxim "If you want to anger a conservative, lie to him; if you want to anger a liberal (i.e. shitlib) tell him the truth." Every time they get called out on their pathologies, you get an unhinged flurry of tu quoque/whataboutism, goalpost- shifting, and TDS. Unfortunately, clinical psychology turning into a woke cult means you can't really blame them for their untreated narcissism, but they could at least stop being pedo sex pests if being accurately labeled as groomers bothers them so much.

All those participation trophies did no one any favors.

Posted by: Saber Alter at October 29, 2022 03:11 PM (py1gx)

332 Earlier it was 50 dead.

Now....120 dead in Halloween Parade crush.

https://tinyurl.com/4ht2csc4

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2022 03:12 PM (uLr+K)

333 That was cruel

Posted by: Skip at October 29, 2022 03:15 PM (xhxe8)

334 Popular clinical psychology goes off the rails when it becomes about validation and claims to be nonjudgmental. If there's no objective upon which to judge, the only reference point becomes the individual himself, severed from the rest of mankind.

I always found it deliciously ironic that people would seek help with their self-esteem. You want better self-esteem? Do something estimable. Why go out and buy a self-help book written by someone else.

Live life outside your own mind-cocoon.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 29, 2022 11:27 AM (kXYt5)

Social Media, what with the algorithms they use, push out a lot of "it's OK to not be OK" messages.

The amount of kids who have normalized being helpless in the face of "the daily struggle" is staggering.

There's a reason Bill Gates said he doesn't let his kids use electronic devices...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 29, 2022 03:22 PM (BgMrQ)

335 Apropos of nothing, I bought an overpriced custom Galil 308 from a guy on GB to include me sending some parts I have collected in partial payment.

I am just trying to get my un-inflated cost for them since these are all parts that I will most likely never need but, I am not a good haggler.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 29, 2022 03:29 PM (yQpMk)

336 Social Media, what with the algorithms they use, push out a lot of "it's OK to not be OK" messages. The amount of kids who have normalized being helpless in the face of "the daily struggle" is staggering.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 29, 2022 03:22 PM

Not just social media. It's everywhere. Look at the ad agencies that push back against "body shaming". Calvin Klein being one of the obvious ones putting obese people in their ads now.

And just look at the Plandemic. Because it went against the narrative, no one was allowed to say that being obese is a major risk factor for contracting and having bad effects from the virus (not to mention obesity is a major risk factor for any number of other health issues). Nor could they recommend more activity and sunshine (Vitamin D) and losing weight, because they were locking everyone in their homes with the lockdown policies.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 29, 2022 03:33 PM (Do5/p)

337 @realDonaIdrump 3h Replying to @elonmusk

@elonmusk is #SoBrave for taking on the swamp.
We owe you one Elon.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 29, 2022 04:26 PM (MxRrv)

338 Right. And instead, they create waves oh nihilistic, unhappy people who think theirs no point to life. They're the same people minting little mass shooters every once in a while. Its not that hard to imagine that while you're making everyone into unhappy nihilists, a handful are going to take what they've learned and take it to its natural conclusion - kill everyone.

Posted by: deadrody at October 29, 2022 04:31 PM (kYmXc)

339 The "its ok to not be ok" schtick is just a way of covering their own ass for making generation after generation of kids that are "not ok"

Posted by: deadrody at October 29, 2022 04:32 PM (kYmXc)

340 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zte1diO98M

Biden quietly moves world closer towards armageddon. Finland ready to host nukes

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at October 29, 2022 04:42 PM (6vA7M)

341 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zte1diO98M

Biden quietly moves world closer towards armageddon. Finland ready to host nukes
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at October 29, 2022 04:42 PM (6vA7M)


This will go over like a fart in church.
Rooskies do not like the Finns. This just reinforces old hatreds.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 29, 2022 05:07 PM (anj39)

342 Biden, claims US has FIFTY-FOUR states, as concerns continue to mount about his cognitive abilities

at a rally for John Fetterman. Discussing the Affordable Care Act, he said: 'And, by the way, if they do, that means — not a joke, everybody; that’s why we defeated it in 2018 when they tried to do it.
We went to 54 states.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 29, 2022 05:44 PM (MxRrv)

343 "We went to 54 states."

Didn't Obama go to 57?

Posted by: SFGoth at October 29, 2022 05:49 PM (KAi1n)

344 Hot stuff at the DM from Kayne West and more new, new to me, information on Paul Pelosi's...,uh, attacker.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 29, 2022 05:54 PM (MxRrv)

345 KT, so you read these old comments?

I am working my way through the old post, as I do, They are always the highlight of my web-weekend.

Anyway, that antioch stuff at top made me think of a vid. I saw last week. Sargon whatever the lotus eater did a video "The British Crusade Against Slavery" and this black couple did a reaction video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wB7PVoNfyM

It is pure learned victimization. At one point the guy asks the girl if learning this stuff makes her feel a little less "angry," presumably at whites for being uniquely evil in how they treated black americans.

I knew all this, but this just made me see it in a new light. The left, democrats, race mongers, etc. have played an evil "learned helplessness" number on a large part of our country. Once you make what happened to blacks uniquely evil, you also make an excuse for never getting out of it. Sowell talks about this a lot as you know. You also justify a race war and pushing innocents under trains. ... anyway.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 29, 2022 06:12 PM (zrD2w)

346 Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 29, 2022 06:12 PM

Thanks for your insights and the video!

Posted by: KT at October 29, 2022 08:51 PM (rrtZS)

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